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Re: Withdrawing (temporarily) from the debian project

Shaya,

I have now been a developer for about a year (I started sometime in
December a year ago).  My observations are similar to yours in that
there is some unnecessary bickering on the lists.  However, I do think
that some of it is useful (some of the posts in the "purity"
discussion anyway).

Shaya Potter <spotter@kby.netmedia.net.il> writes:

> In a way I agree with phil.  I remember when I joined being a developer with
> debian 2 summers ago.  I originally downloaded debian caused it looked like
> a nice dist.  Was a good ELF environemnt, and was pretty open.  I origianlly

I originally got it because it was the only one supporting kernel
2.0.  It seemed to always have the newest software.  We have kinda
slipped on that since then....  However, I think the quality is higher.

> When I was talking with the author of linuxconf, he was telling me that the
> main reason he aims linuxconf at redhat and slackware (now, I guess, mostly
> at Redhat) is because with those systems, you know what's going to be on
> them.  i.e. Sendmail, Apache....  With debian, we can have sendmail, smail,
> exim, zmailer, Apace, boa..... Choice isn't a bad thing, but it can detract

This is VERY, VERY good!  This means that I use sendmail here at home,
where I need its power for my various types of mail transport needed
(two UUCP feeds and a SMTP feed).  It also means that on a 386 in the
corner, exim can be used because not a lot of configurability it
needed for some machines.

> from the overwell cohesivness of the dist.  We have to have a good method of
> getting rid of the chaf and maybe make it harder for people to become
> "developers"  but not contributers.  An idea would be to make it so that
> anyone can package a package (like now), but to let it be included in the
> dist.  One "developer" has to agree to adopt the package and maintain it.
> If a package gets orphaned, and their are other packages that do the same
> job as it, if no one is willing to maintain it, it gets moved out of the
> main dist.  We need a formalized method of pruning the dist. 

What we need is a better way of getting updates to the orphaned
packages list.

> >Try to have fun.
> 
> that's the main thing we are all here for, isn't it?  Everybody should
> remember that and not take everything so seriously.  There's a place for
> seriousness and a place for having fun, and we should make time for both,
> but not at the expense of either.

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