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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t#p/u/60/agTHok-W_PIMay 12 00:03
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WireWulfi am questioning something May 12 00:08
WireWulfand i figure the best place to go it tech headsMay 12 00:08
WireWulfi keep hearing that google monitors everything but i have seen google is against the internet being control by govermentsMay 12 00:14
schestowitzGoogle is run by shareholdersMay 12 00:19
schestowitzThat's the raison detreMay 12 00:19
WireWulfahhMay 12 00:21
WireWulfbeen having a airhead moment May 12 00:22
WireWulferr dayMay 12 00:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Senators from Maine, Susan Collins and Olumpia Snowe, voted Yea on the Audit the Fed amendment. Today, these two stood up for America.May 12 00:27
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The rest of the Senate that voted against the Audit the Fed amendment? Remember this when its voting time again.May 12 00:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDTUuckNHgcMay 12 00:44
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DaemonFCwhy is my house vibrating?May 12 01:44
DaemonFC(no jokes)May 12 01:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnderosa RT @heckj: Any word on how #dropbox does if you store a #git or #mercurial repo in it // #tar first?May 12 01:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnderosa @heckj or you mean actually serving one? (!!) #dropbox #git #mercurialMay 12 01:50
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DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_(film)May 12 02:21
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DaemonFCgood movieMay 12 02:21
DaemonFCsomething about Kevin Spacey's voice on a robot with an emoticon smiley face to express its tone of voice is unsettlingMay 12 02:33
DaemonFCmaybe that was the ideaMay 12 02:33
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sebsebsebschestowitz: it's true, Mandriva will probably die soonMay 12 02:36
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #fortune: #Marriage is a #romance in which the hero dies in the first chapter. (~ via _abbe)May 12 03:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mrpower #Microsoft is a greater threat to #software - not to mention the rest of society - than #piracy ever could be...May 12 04:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mrpower #Microsoft is greater threat to #software -not to mention society in general- than #piracy ever could be... #bsa #spotTheRealThiefMay 12 04:05
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Leaked: Telcos' secret plans to use fake "citizens groups" to kill Net Neutrality http://ur1.ca/00dwyMay 12 04:27
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Diablo-D3http://www.plasmicsloth.com/gallery2/d/225-1/Word.jpgMay 12 04:56
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cobra-the-jokerHey there every one May 12 06:09
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Microsoft bought the Daily Show nowMay 12 06:21
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DaemonFCThis MinceR brought to you by Windows 7May 12 06:30
DaemonFCB-)May 12 06:30
DaemonFCerrrMay 12 06:30
DaemonFCThis MinceR brought to you in HD by Windows 7May 12 06:30
DaemonFCand by today's letter, a big sweaty BMay 12 06:31
MinceRnopeMay 12 06:33
MinceRno computers were harmed in this production ;)May 12 06:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @BoingBoing: UK Prime Minister Cameron was in a rich Oxford brats club that destroyed restaurants for fun http://bit.ly/c4T885May 12 07:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Don't let anyone try to convince you that #God should be separated from the State." -- you know whoMay 12 08:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'to take a space that is not a hotel & give it that unique air of grim functionality, loneliness, transience, drabness and itinerant greed..May 12 08:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '... is quite an achievement.' ah @gilescoren on #Pétrus #london #uk #foodMay 12 08:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '...is quite an achievement.' ah @gilescoren on #Pétrus #london #uk #food http://bit.ly/aRwoBXMay 12 08:25
TechrightsTitle:  Giles Coren reviews Pétrus, London SW1 - Times Online  .::. Size~: 111.59 KBMay 12 08:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Bad news from the Netherlands, PDF over ODF preferable by NOiV (Google Translation) http://tinyurl.com/33fa5mm Read "Blieb's" comments...May 12 08:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] "Blieb" is the latest nym of Albert Zonneveld (hAl). Microsoft shill online bullying at its finest.May 12 08:45
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amarsh04schestowitz, xmms 1.2 still builds from source for me, but for lightweight audio players there's also moc (music on console)May 12 08:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: 5 jours pour répondre (mm partiellement) à la consultation du Gouv. sur la Neutralité du Net! http://ur1.ca/z0si (pls RT!)May 12 08:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Se o Papa pode peregrinar até Fátima de helicóptero, o que é que isso diz dos peregrinos que vão lá de joelhos? :)May 12 08:52
TechrightsTitle: Neutralité du Net: Réponse à la consultation du gouvernement | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 24.94 KBMay 12 08:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Shred Europe’s Democracy to Pieces http://ur1.ca/00f2n #swpats #trips #acta #india #epoMay 12 08:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: #Patents Shred Europe’s Democracy to Pieces http://ur1.ca/00f2n #swpats #trips #acta #india #epoMay 12 08:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Microsoft Office 2010 takes aim at Google Docs - More BBC MS promotions http://tinyurl.com/368o2v6May 12 09:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Software piracy continues global rise - BSA, you could write the script for them http://tinyurl.com/38dak7jMay 12 09:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The MSBBC is spreading #BSA #propaganda http://tinyurl.com/38dak7j [via @thistleweb ] #brainwash #lie #bbcMay 12 09:14
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] fArizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies http://ur1.ca/00f8nMay 12 09:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] #uds is now half-way through, but has been fantastic so far. Lots of great sessions. Tiredness starting to set in after 1 1/2 weeks here.May 12 09:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Sat in a session about improving how LoCo teams do QA. Such an important area in which #ubuntu teams can focus.May 12 09:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup : Cracks in the #USPTO , Patent Trolls, and More About #Theora http://ur1.ca/00fas #ogg #swpats #ubuntu #bilskiMay 12 09:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hearing great things about the Italian #Ubuntu LoCo team doing ISO testing. Thinking the UK team can do this!May 12 09:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Pic of my minimalist modified #ubuntu desktop on AthlonXP 2000+, with (finally at last) working #openmsx http://twitpic.com/1n4afkMay 12 10:01
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_goblinmorning allMay 12 10:21
MinceRhayMay 12 10:24
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sunlight used to split water for hydrogen http://ur1.ca/00fk9 !scienceMay 12 10:27
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gas surge shut BP's oil well down a few weeks before Gulf spill http://ur1.ca/00fkiMay 12 10:27
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Chemical Concussions and Secret LSD: Pentagon Details Cold War Mind-Control Tests http://ur1.ca/00fklMay 12 10:32
TechrightsTitle: Chemical Concussions and Secret LSD: Pentagon Details Cold War Mind-Control Tests | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 86.72 KBMay 12 10:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Shot Of Jaq! The Reality Of RSI - http://is.gd/c5waF #shotofjaqMay 12 10:39
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lidar Finds Overgrown Maya Pyramids http://ur1.ca/00bkp !scienceMay 12 10:57
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] US's growing dependence on foreign energy http://ur1.ca/00forMay 12 10:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Slashdot: EU Patent Examiners Warn European Parliament Will Have "No Power" in Patent Law http://ur1.ca/00fsh #vacuum #patent #democracyMay 12 11:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Microsoft is Still the Biggest Enemy of “Open Source”, Not Just #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/00fusMay 12 11:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] In an interesting session at #uds is enabling collaboration on documents using ZoHoMay 12 11:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/ebene.ogg.m3u to listen in to the session about ZoHo integration with #ubuntu at #udsMay 12 11:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Never thought about it before but who did put the alphabet in its present order and why?May 12 11:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Getting ready to leave for work again.....This week has been very busy so far, not much time for Openbytes :(May 12 12:05
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schestowitzc"Ubuntu Nebook Remix will have Unity... I think that is based on Mono but I did not checked."May 12 13:10
schestowitzCan anybody check?May 12 13:10
schestowitzI tried, no successMay 12 13:10
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=ubuntu+Unity+mono&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8May 12 13:11
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amarsh04anyone in .uk care to trace to www.on.net? I'm getting sub-300ms traces from .au to bbc.co.uk now (-:May 12 13:20
MinceRschestowitz: i've found a "unity" that's based on mono but it isn't this one, it's a game engine or somethingMay 12 13:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] from Tomorrow(13 may), every Thursday I will be on 'Gyan Dharshan' TV 3pm to 4pm to talk on FOSS tool for education. join me if you wantMay 12 13:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] 10 minutes into latest Linux Outlaws episode live at ogg camp and I remember why I do not listen to the ubuntu uk podcast anymore.May 12 13:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@shoq there are positives in coalition. Anything that strengthens independents good. An entrenched 2party system is a dangerous abominationMay 12 13:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Need `foss + education` expert at Delhi to join me on TV series at NCERT and other activities. #fossMay 12 13:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] EC's ACTA Negotiator Devigne: Rejected U.S. "Blackmail" - http://bit.ly/c9jGw3 release of the draft ACTA text may be a one-time deal #actaMay 12 13:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@SQLintheWild Man, the amount of homework posted to forums is increasing again // that time of year?May 12 13:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #china is fucked. no other way to say it.May 12 13:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Loses Market Share in Search, Exploits Yahoo! Some More, Exploits #Linux #Android #Phones http://ur1.ca/00gmjMay 12 13:50
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cubezzzI'm not following how Microsoft "removed a search option"May 12 13:56
cubezzzpeople can just type google.com can't they?May 12 13:56
cubezzz"Anyone who wishes to avoid Google might as well be stuck with Microsoft."May 12 13:56
cubezzzbtw, did anyone find the samsung  BD-C5500 gpl source?May 12 13:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: #Torture Supporter Peter Ricketts as #UK National Security Adviser - http://bit.ly/aktP0a not so good (via @PoliceStateUK)May 12 14:01
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cubezzzhmmm, samsung really does suckMay 12 14:05
cubezzzthey have multiple GPL violationsMay 12 14:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Linux Outlaws 148, re room 101 and clueless users. A guest on the show certainly had a Gerald Ratner moment. Too late now. Who was it?May 12 14:06
amarsh04cubezzz, Daemon-FC said 16.5 hours ago "<DaemonFC> I fired off a letter asking Samsung for a disc with the source code to all GPL, LGPL, and other similarly licensed programs they ship on the BD-C5500"May 12 14:06
cubezzzit's not just Samsung of courseMay 12 14:09
cubezzzBest Buy was also included in the suitMay 12 14:10
cubezzzeven Sony and Microsoft do a better jobMay 12 14:11
amarsh04I still have to request GPL off siemens or gigaset for my C470IP voip cordless phone systemMay 12 14:12
amarsh04and follow up with the receivers of the suppliers of code for my adsl modem May 12 14:12
cubezzzSony actually uses Linux a lotMay 12 14:12
amarsh04back in a while...May 12 14:13
cubezzzexample: DHG-HDD250May 12 14:15
cubezzzDVR with linux, I guess this is common nowMay 12 14:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] If you want to join me for FOSS tool TV series at NCERT do give me a ping. only above age 12 can applyMay 12 14:17
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schestowitz[13:56] <cubezzz> people can just type google.com can't they?May 12 14:36
schestowitzNot in phonesMay 12 14:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Mouthpieces Put a Number on Microsoft ‘Linux Tax’ http://ur1.ca/00h12 #swpats #propaganda #fudMay 12 14:36
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schestowitzThey could, probablyMay 12 14:36
schestowitzBut they removed it as an option in the phone built-in thingMay 12 14:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Chidambaram: "country cannot pay the price in the name of privacy" PM okeys National Intelligence Grid http://bit.ly/aNMot1 #uidMay 12 14:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] UK moves to cancel National Identity Cards and National Identity Register #uid http://bit.ly/beRrcEMay 12 14:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Videos from #UID Project: A Debate on Fundamental Rights http://bit.ly/b3fqdgMay 12 14:49
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cubezzzschestowitz, surely there is one phone that is open?May 12 14:57
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MinceRFreeRunner?May 12 15:04
MinceRit lacks UMTS, thoughMay 12 15:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Indications That #HP is Dumping #Windows for #Linux (for Mobile Form Factors) http://ur1.ca/00h9b #vista7 #palm #webosMay 12 15:07
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cubezzzhmmmMay 12 15:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Session at #uds about making a GUI frontend for testdrive. Listen in. http://bit.ly/9rmQmT http://bit.ly/bhXsAS http://bit.ly/7916d1May 12 15:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO: EBoA confirms EPO approach to computer programs http://ur1.ca/00hmyMay 12 15:59
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schestowitzzoobab: what does that mean then?May 12 16:00
schestowitzI've just read it; it says nothingMay 12 16:00
schestowitzIOW, "carry on what you doMay 12 16:00
schestowitz"In the absence of conflicting Board of Appeal decisions, the Enlarged Board concluded that the legal requirements for a referral were not met. Nevertheless, the Board affirmed the right of the President of the EPO to "make full use of the discretion granted by Article 112(1)(b) EPC" in making a referral, and provided further guidance on how these requirements for such a referral should be interpreted. "May 12 16:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab EPO: EBoA confirms EPO approach to computer programs http://ur1.ca/00hmy >> is that it???May 12 16:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 20-Year #Microsoft Veteran Becomes #HP Vice President in Charge of Software and Solutions Business http://ur1.ca/00hpr #linux #slateMay 12 16:13
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schestowitzHeh. http://pirateparty.kz/May 12 16:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO EBOA: When judiciary-driven legal development meets its limits, it is time for the legislator to take over: http://ur1.ca/00hnmMay 12 16:17
schestowitzGoldman Sachs' Pervert Lawyer Gets Sentenced? http://www.jrdeputyaccountant.com/2010/05/goldman-sachs-pervert-lawyer-gets.htmlMay 12 16:19
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zoobabThey followed StraussMay 12 16:25
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] One of Jupiter's belts disappears http://ur1.ca/00hu3 !scienceMay 12 16:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Microsoft's two-pronged strategy for Office 2010 - 2nd BBC promo piece today for MS Office 2010 http://tinyurl.com/2ajfccaMay 12 16:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein Green Mep Truppel: "No to digital Maoism of free culture" what??? surely some mistake... #greensMay 12 16:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein #openstandards out of EU Digital Agenda for ambiguous open architecture. Kroes back tracks on binding opennessMay 12 16:44
schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/85817 "@schestowitz well write off hp for another 10 years. and to think i JUST got over compaq and all the crap both of them did in terms of shitty hw. hp mini was their chance, it's gone now, see them in 10"May 12 16:46
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schestowitzHP still sells many servers, some UNIXMay 12 16:46
schestowitzzoobab: who's that?May 12 16:47
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+Strauss&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GBMay 12 16:48
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schestowitzWhy is this in /.? http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/11/1552251/Website-Sells-Pubic-LiceMay 12 16:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/49737-one-of-jupiters-belts-disappearsMay 12 17:00
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schestowitzzoobab: http://ca.linexlegal.com/index.php?cid=576802May 12 17:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab</a> EPO EBOA:When judiciary-driven legal development meets its limits, it is time for the legislator to take overMay 12 17:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: @zoobab the EPO putting itself above the law must end NOW. But our so-called politicians in Brussels will not care.May 12 17:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Irish High Court opens the way for European data retention challenge - http://bit.ly/dhnnNa great - and could be bigMay 12 17:30
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schestowitzFSF launches free software extension listing for OpenOffice.org http://lwn.net/Articles/386838/May 12 17:45
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schestowitzOmar87: I posted about Jordan yesterdayMay 12 17:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Olympic games 2012, many will do anything to win including taking the wrong cold cures :) but all are self obsessed enough to be bankers.May 12 17:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Competition taken too far in any form ends up the same way, tears before bedtime.May 12 17:47
schestowitzhttp://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/49682-obama-criticizes-generation-ipad?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tgdaily_all_sections+(TG+Daily+-+All+News)&utm_content=Google+ReaderMay 12 17:49
schestowitz'"With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, - none of which I know how to work - information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation," Obama claimed in a speech at Hampton University quoted by AFP.'May 12 17:49
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schestowitzWhat a shot in the footMay 12 17:49
schestowitzHe potrays himself as anti-technology, a LudditeMay 12 17:49
cubezzzI'd criticize iPad tooMay 12 17:50
cubezzzschestowitz, you're defending iPad and XBox? :)May 12 17:50
schestowitzThese were metaphors to himMay 12 17:51
Omar87schestowitz, can you give me a link please?May 12 17:51
schestowitzHe says "Xbox" a lot.... TV persons said soMay 12 17:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: @jwildeboer Yes but national politicians will care. Stop Software Patents, the national road.May 12 17:51
schestowitzOmar87: http://techrights.org/2010/05/11/federal-elements-at-risk/May 12 17:52
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cubezzzI don't think Obama is really too much into computersMay 12 17:53
cubezzzit's just an impression mind youMay 12 17:53
cubezzzI think he is progressive enough in other areasMay 12 17:53
schestowitzOne of the Microsoft Hypocrites has commented in http://techrights.org/2010/05/11/federal-elements-at-risk/#comment-90117May 12 17:54
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schestowitzcubezzz: yeah, but it would be nice to have scientists presidentsMay 12 17:54
schestowitzIn the US, presidents get selected based on how they speak (lawyers et al) and their 'spirituality' (religion)May 12 17:55
schestowitzYou'd never have a biologist who does not believe in deities in the white houseMay 12 17:55
cubezzzI'm sure there had to be presidents who were interested in scienceMay 12 17:55
cubezzzAl Gore was pretty into tech right?May 12 17:56
schestowitzName oneMay 12 17:56
schestowitzcubezzz: noMay 12 17:56
cubezzzAl Gore :)May 12 17:56
schestowitzHe's some Mac boyMay 12 17:56
schestowitzHe help fund the InternetMay 12 17:56
schestowitzBut he's no programmerMay 12 17:56
cubezzzthey are mainly lawyer types I thinkMay 12 17:56
cubezzzjust the nature of the beastMay 12 17:56
cubezzzyeah, I really can't think of any President or Prime Minister that was into science May 12 17:59
cubezzzbut wasn't there a presidential science advisor, at least at one point?May 12 17:59
cubezzzhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/05/05/ask-president-s-science-advisorMay 12 18:01
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cubezzzoh and this might be of interest also:May 12 18:02
cubezzzhttp://etherboot.org/wiki/index.phpMay 12 18:02
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cubezzzopen firmware for ethernet cards :)May 12 18:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO can continue to grant numerous software patents as it is doing for more than a decade http://ur1.ca/00hmyMay 12 18:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2010/05/if-you-think-you-have-a-sense-of-the-oil-spills-scale/56425/May 12 18:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: EPO can continue to grant numerous software patents as it is doing for more than a decade http://ur1.ca/00hmyMay 12 18:04
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Agent-SmithGood afternoon folksMay 12 18:18
Agent-Smithhttp://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1515May 12 18:18
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Agent-SmithWell, folks, do you think Bilski will stop soft pats ???May 12 18:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mickey Mouse Crucified - http://bit.ly/9XwXpY >> how long before the Disney trademark lawsuit?May 12 18:21
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schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-the-new-rules-for-judging-quality-in-published-content/May 12 18:35
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schestowitzAgent-Smith: I wrote tbout that postMay 12 18:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: EPO can continue to grant numerous software patents as it is doing for more than a decade http://ur1.ca/00hmyMay 12 18:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.qwghlm.co.uk/2010/05/12/the-end-of-the-world/May 12 18:41
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schestowitzPolitical mess, stillMay 12 18:41
schestowitzhttp://defensetech.org/2010/05/11/the-race-to-build-a-secure-operating-system/May 12 18:42
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schestowitz"Linus" is not an OS :-DMay 12 18:42
schestowitz"Even when it is for mobile form factors, it is still great news. :D if !linux has less than 1% market share why are #apple and #microsoft trying do defeat the OS so bad? !gnu !sflc !libreplanet"  http://identi.ca/conversation/31825801#notice-31952803"May 12 18:47
schestowitz it's not 1%. See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_Market_Share May 12 18:47
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Agent-SmithBack to sw pats subject, do you really think the Bilski case can stop them ???May 12 18:53
Agent-SmithI mean, sw pats are a powerful weapon in the hands of IBM, M$, Apple, and many others...May 12 18:53
Agent-SmithThey will not let this power go so easily...May 12 18:54
Agent-SmithPity for us...May 12 18:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Seriously thinking of contacting my MP and seeing if I can give up my UK vote which had never counted and swap it for one on the mainlandMay 12 18:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microhoo! shrank Zimbra's value by 70+%? http://paidcontent.org/article/419-yahoos-net-proceeds-from-sale-of-zimbra-100-million/May 12 18:56
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schestowitzhttp://defensetech.org/2010/05/11/the-race-to-build-a-secure-operating-system/May 12 18:58
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schestowitz> Design a system with strict division at the hardware level betweenMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> code and data. Have checksums done in hardware that verifies systemMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> code at boot. Prevent data from being run as code. Restrict user fromMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> directly executing code except through a system 'executive'. OnlyMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> allow data to be downloaded from remote systems. Prevent data fromMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> being converted into code through hardware mechanisms.May 12 18:58
schestowitz> May 12 18:58
schestowitz> I know there are various hacks about at the moment, but I am talkingMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> about a simplified, designed from the ground up system, that wouldMay 12 18:58
schestowitz> provide a basic infrastructure.May 12 18:58
schestowitzAgent-Smith: probably won't annihilate swpatsMay 12 18:58
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schestowitzBut USPTO can become irrelevant along with FraudstreetMay 12 18:59
schestowitzThen we need to compartmentalise this disease called swpatMay 12 18:59
schestowitzKeep it in the cage with MicrosogtMay 12 18:59
Agent-SmithWell If SW Pats are valid only in US, why the world trembles over it ???May 12 19:01
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Agent-SmithIt's terrible. What's happenin with HTC is a sample of how things will be...May 12 19:02
Agent-Smithsmall companies being harassed by larger ones with patent litigation May 12 19:04
Agent-SmithI hope the Bilski case turns out for the grater good of mankind, but I fear in the hidden politics behind the scenes...May 12 19:05
Agent-Smithgreater I meanMay 12 19:05
schestowitzhttp://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2010/05/10/daily33.html<May 12 19:12
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schestowitzMay 12 19:12
schestowitz[19:01] <Agent-Smith> Well If SW Pats are valid only in US, why the world trembles over it ???May 12 19:12
schestowitzUS=worldMay 12 19:12
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I have a good post abt SamsungMay 12 19:12
schestowitz[19:05] <Agent-Smith> I hope the Bilski case turns out for the grater good of mankind, but I fear in the hidden politics behind the scenes...May 12 19:13
schestowitzPut a non-US judgeMay 12 19:13
schestowitzUS judges judge for the interets of the US/WestMay 12 19:13
schestowitzNot BrazilMay 12 19:13
schestowitzIIRC, last month Brazil kicked the West in the *** over "IP"May 12 19:13
schestowitzI think it had to do more w/ medication thoughMay 12 19:14
DaemonFCschestowitz: Just waking upMay 12 19:15
schestowitzAgent-Smith: maybe you can help Techrights entablish information for Brazilians?May 12 19:15
schestowitzWe have many readers from thereMay 12 19:15
DaemonFCI need to find where they sell that double caffeinated coffee atMay 12 19:15
schestowitzHere is our anchor page in Portugese http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/PortuguesMay 12 19:16
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schestowitzWe need pages like these in German but for Portugese, Agent-Smith. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GermanMay 12 19:17
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schestowitzCan you help?May 12 19:17
DaemonFCMicrosoft has hobbled Windows Home Server too much to useMay 12 19:17
schestowitzDid you read that post?May 12 19:20
schestowitzOr did you buy that shredder?May 12 19:21
schestowitzIs anyone other than HP selling it?May 12 19:21
Agent-SmithWell, Mr. Schestowitz, how can I help ?May 12 19:21
schestowitzYou can extend the page in PortugueseMay 12 19:22
schestowitzOn any subject of choiceMay 12 19:23
schestowitzWe also have http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/BrazilMay 12 19:23
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Agent-SmithYou don't have anyone to translate to portuguese ???May 12 19:24
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schestowitzI'll extend it now...May 12 19:24
schestowitzAgent-Smith: we had some regulars who couldMay 12 19:24
DaemonFChmmm, SweatyB just made a cameo in this movie I thinkMay 12 19:24
Agent-SmithHum Hum, well I can help, but you are very prolific writer. I could never keep up the pace with your writings...May 12 19:26
schestowitzAgent-Smith: just expended it to add posts: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/BrazilMay 12 19:29
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Agent-SmithLet me seeMay 12 19:30
Agent-SmithAHAHHAHAHAHMay 12 19:30
Agent-SmithYOu even mention Octavier Matt...May 12 19:30
Agent-SmithTHAT GUY IS A RETARDMay 12 19:30
Agent-SmithA moronMay 12 19:30
Agent-SmithHe's a joke in Brazilian forums...May 12 19:31
Agent-SmithAhahahahhahahahaMay 12 19:31
Agent-SmithThere are other M$ Shills active in BrazilMay 12 19:32
schestowitz[19:30] <Agent-Smith> YOu even mention Octavier Matt...May 12 19:34
schestowitzSeller-liar mentioned himMay 12 19:34
schestowitzAnyway, I organised this page a littleMay 12 19:34
schestowitzI can't do too many things at once, needing to keep up with newsMay 12 19:34
schestowitzBut the page was viewed almost 2k timesMay 12 19:34
schestowitzSo if you extend it, people will make use of thatMay 12 19:34
Agent-SmithSureMay 12 19:35
Agent-SmithBrazil did many good things in Linux and for LinuxMay 12 19:35
Agent-SmithAPT-GET tool was ported from Debian to RPM by ConectivaMay 12 19:35
Agent-SmithWindowmaker is also BrazilianMay 12 19:36
Agent-SmithOur current government is pro Open Source (not as much as I wanted it to be, but, better than nothing...)May 12 19:36
Agent-SmithWell, you want me to elaborate on the topics ??? Is that right ???May 12 19:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @FOSSpatents @TechCrunch reports on new #patent infringement suit against #Apple http://tcrn.ch/cEi89X #swpatMay 12 19:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] listening to River by Rob Costlow - http://www.thesixtyone.com/s/Jan2fqkUIGT/ - Amazing music.. -_-May 12 19:40
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schestowitzAgent-Smith: yes, or create resources with linksMay 12 19:40
schestowitzIn native langMay 12 19:40
Agent-SmithOk, do I have to register to access the wiki ??? Or this irc login allows me to access the wiki ???May 12 19:42
schestowitzyou can create wiki accountMay 12 19:43
Agent-SmithOkMay 12 19:44
Agent-SmithI will see how we can expand the Brazil section.May 12 19:45
MinceRhttp://blog.wolfire.com/2010/05/Another-view-of-game-piracyMay 12 19:45
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Agent-SmithBrazil is very strong on Open Source and Linux.May 12 19:45
MinceRhttp://www.marriedtothesea.com/011508/bring-me-the-drivemaker.gifMay 12 19:45
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Agent-SmithWe have many good Linux brains here...May 12 19:45
MinceRAgent-Smith: the Source is strong with this one? :>May 12 19:46
Agent-SmithYEAH!!!May 12 19:46
Agent-SmithExactly!!!May 12 19:46
Agent-SmithThe Open Source is strong with this one!!!May 12 19:46
Agent-SmithAnd folks, something very sad happened to me...May 12 19:48
Agent-SmithI was banned from a forum, a Linux distro forum...May 12 19:48
MinceR*suse?May 12 19:48
Agent-SmithNot SuseMay 12 19:48
Agent-SmithAnd I will not mention the forum nor the distroMay 12 19:49
Agent-SmithButMay 12 19:49
Agent-SmithThe reason I was kicked off for...May 12 19:49
MinceRubuntu?May 12 19:49
MinceR:>May 12 19:49
Agent-SmithEheheheheh...May 12 19:49
Agent-SmithNot tooMay 12 19:49
Agent-SmithWellMay 12 19:50
Agent-SmithIt boils down to this:May 12 19:50
Agent-SmithAll the issues I had with that distroMay 12 19:50
Agent-SmithI was the one to come with the answers and the solutionsMay 12 19:50
Agent-SmithThe other folks on the forum would only give me bogus advicesMay 12 19:51
Agent-SmithI guess they were all in good faithMay 12 19:51
Agent-SmithBut, perhaps they lack the knowledgeMay 12 19:51
Agent-SmithBut, for my surpriseMay 12 19:51
Agent-SmithYesterday I came with a problem in Skype V. 2.1.081 for LinuxMay 12 19:52
Agent-SmithAnd I found the solution.May 12 19:52
Agent-SmithAnd I posted the solutionMay 12 19:52
Agent-SmithAnd thenMay 12 19:52
MinceRabandon skype? :>May 12 19:52
Agent-SmithI got kicked off from the forum...May 12 19:52
Agent-SmithNoMay 12 19:52
Agent-SmithYou just downgrade SkypeMay 12 19:52
Agent-SmithTo version 2.1.047May 12 19:53
Agent-SmithAnd it works well again.May 12 19:53
MinceRas well as skype does, anyway :>May 12 19:53
Agent-SmithWhat surprised me was the reward for my [Solved] topic...May 12 19:53
Agent-SmithA moderator bashed me, criticized my directions May 12 19:54
Agent-SmithAnd sent me a MP stating that I could not do that again, and that I was warned...May 12 19:55
Agent-SmithI answered him: What I did works. But, What do I know ? It's your distro... You can ban me anytime.May 12 19:55
Agent-SmithAnd indeed, he banned me...May 12 19:56
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Agent-SmithToday I tried to log on the forum, and I was denied access to it...May 12 19:56
Agent-SmithWell, this sad happening let me wondering...May 12 19:57
schestowitzhttp://www.techcentral.co.za/vodacom-unveils-low-cost-linux-netbook/14287/ http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Cherrypal-Asia/?kc=rssMay 12 19:57
Agent-SmithAnd, this is the morale: If you give good working advice, you may get a ban...May 12 19:58
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schestowitzAgent-Smith: May 12 19:58
schestowitzAgent-Smith: [19:45] <Agent-Smith> I will see how we can expand the Brazil section.May 12 19:58
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schestowitzthanksMay 12 19:58
Agent-SmithI will read it more carefully, to see how and where it can be expanded.May 12 19:59
Agent-SmithAnd, of course, the Brazil section could have a link to the Sidux community Brazil, which I am a very fond member...May 12 20:00
Agent-Smith;-)May 12 20:00
schestowitzNiceMay 12 20:00
schestowitzBTW, skype is troubleMay 12 20:00
Agent-SmithIt works well...May 12 20:01
Agent-SmithThe thing that got me upset was the reaction of the moderator of the forum.May 12 20:01
Agent-SmithSince other users had the same trouble...May 12 20:01
Agent-SmithI found the solution and got banned...May 12 20:02
Agent-SmithIronic ???May 12 20:02
Agent-SmithWell, God Bless. And May God help them, since I'm banned, I can't do it anymore...May 12 20:02
schestowitziirc, MinceR waits for http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/fedora-13-set-release-mayMay 12 20:04
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schestowitzAgent-Smith: maybe it was an accidentMay 12 20:04
Agent-SmithYes, now I'm cooled down.May 12 20:04
Agent-SmithBut in that moment, in the heat of passion, it was very bad...May 12 20:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla CEO steps down http://john.jubjubs.net/2010/05/11/whats-next-for-me-but-not-yet/May 12 20:06
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Agent-SmithWell, changing the subject...May 12 20:07
Agent-SmithDo you think HP can go head to head against M$, since now they have WebOS ???May 12 20:07
MinceRif if comes to spying on their users, certainlyMay 12 20:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: RT @OpenSociety: Call for Proposals: New Uses of #Data for #Advocacy http://bit.ly/cg0LRE #opendata #digitalactivismMay 12 20:08
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MinceRbut i'm not sure if hp will really dare go against m$May 12 20:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I want by next year every college of NCR should have a FOSS mentor at this college. #foss #wishMay 12 20:09
Agent-SmithWell, M$ is not the tiger it used to be...May 12 20:09
MinceRit never was a tigerMay 12 20:09
MinceRonly a petty crime lordMay 12 20:10
Agent-SmithIts claws are severed and with few teeth in the mouth...May 12 20:10
Agent-SmithIt would be funny to see old partners take their show out of their hands...May 12 20:10
Agent-SmithAnd M$ would be less relevant every day...May 12 20:11
Agent-SmithWell my dear fellowsMay 12 20:13
Agent-SmithIt was a privilege to be with youMay 12 20:13
Agent-SmithBut now I got to goMay 12 20:14
Agent-SmithI will keep in touch in that wiki matter, Mr. Schestowitz.May 12 20:14
schestowitzThanksMay 12 20:14
Agent-SmithThere are things from TR I would like to implement in our Sidux communityMay 12 20:14
Agent-SmithThis chat is one of them. May 12 20:15
schestowitz[20:07] <Agent-Smith> Do you think HP can go head to head against M$, since now they have WebOS ???May 12 20:15
schestowitzI hope they don't sell out to swpatsMay 12 20:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Google Summer of Code 2010: Meet the Students! - http://bit.ly/9jRT1L wow, look at India #google #soc #indiaMay 12 20:15
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schestowitzHP and MS already have a swpat relationshipMay 12 20:15
Agent-SmithI'm not talking about swpats, but HP becoming a competitor of M$...May 12 20:16
schestowitzLess likely now...May 12 20:16
schestowitzPinochet...May 12 20:16
Agent-SmithThat would be interesting...May 12 20:16
Agent-SmithAhh, I see...May 12 20:16
schestowitzThey have just had an insider installedMay 12 20:16
Agent-SmithThey "planted" an inside friend on HP, the FOX... ;-)May 12 20:17
schestowitzIBM would have been more careful in HR dept.May 12 20:17
schestowitzAgent-Smith: yes, "insider friend, the fox"May 12 20:17
MinceRibm never was careful about anythingMay 12 20:17
schestowitzIBM is junkMay 12 20:17
schestowitzOverpriced, pretentious, helping anyone (even Nazis) with moneyMay 12 20:18
MinceRsometimes they have great ideasMay 12 20:18
schestowitzHard drivesMay 12 20:18
schestowitzBut it's like the USA fanchise for comutersMay 12 20:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @orissaconcerns: NFFPFW condemns the Police Terror at Chandia, Kalinganagar. http://bit.ly/aDUvTQMay 12 20:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @orissaconcerns: Appeal from PPSS: Prevent Police attack on Anti-Posco villeges http://bit.ly/aIMjiYMay 12 20:18
MinceRthe PC and the ThinkPad were two of themMay 12 20:18
schestowitz*franchiseMay 12 20:18
TechrightsTitle: NFFPFW condemns the Police Terror at Chandia, Kalinganagar. | Orissa Concerns .::. Size~: 20.3 KBMay 12 20:18
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Agent-SmithIBM helped Hitler in WW2May 12 20:18
Agent-SmithWell folksMay 12 20:19
schestowitzOh Mighty Greed! :-May 12 20:19
Agent-SmithI have to go nowMay 12 20:19
schestowitzThe system works(C)May 12 20:19
Agent-SmithVery nice to be with youMay 12 20:19
schestowitzChase profit=do goodMay 12 20:19
Agent-SmithBye byeMay 12 20:19
schestowitzcyaMay 12 20:20
Agent-SmithCya aroundMay 12 20:20
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schestowitzhttp://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/getting-menus-out-of-application-windows/May 12 20:22
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schestowitznice... MinceR - check dis'...May 12 20:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Google Summer of Code 2010: Meet the Students! - http://bit.ly/9jRT1L wow, look at India #google #soc #india ( /via [at]glynmoody )May 12 20:22
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MinceRit might help migrate some crApple fanboys to a real OSMay 12 20:23
schestowitzMy brother gave a talk this afternoon about Linux filesystems... he's a CS studentMay 12 20:23
schestowitzI trained him well for the talk, he told me :-)May 12 20:23
MinceRif only it could also do the "Button form factor" on the titlebarMay 12 20:23
MinceRthen even i'd use itMay 12 20:23
schestowitzKDE3 had an option for detached menusMay 12 20:24
MinceRindeedMay 12 20:24
schestowitzI used that for a while at home, just for funMay 12 20:24
schestowitzGNOME had something similar that a person I knew implemented in GTKMay 12 20:24
schestowitzGNOME and KDE came a logng waMay 12 20:25
MinceRindeedMay 12 20:25
MinceRwell, gnome turned backMay 12 20:25
schestowitzIn Jaguar days Mac MS X [sic] looked better than Linux May 12 20:25
MinceRno it didn'tMay 12 20:25
schestowitzIt did unless you customised LinuxMay 12 20:25
MinceRosx always looked like another fisher price OS besides winxpMay 12 20:25
schestowitzLike Baghira for KDE3May 12 20:25
MinceRbaghira is the same fisher price gui lookMay 12 20:25
schestowitzMinceR: no, I liked their themeMay 12 20:25
MinceReven back then my GUI looked like a computer GUIMay 12 20:26
schestowitzMinceR: yeah, mockup/mimicMay 12 20:26
MinceRand not like dirty water drops on lined paper and stupid crap like thatMay 12 20:26
schestowitzdrag CD to teash to unmountMay 12 20:26
schestowitzUnintuitiveMay 12 20:26
schestowitz*trashMay 12 20:26
MinceRlong ago there was the ThinIce theme engine for GTK+ and CDE for QtMay 12 20:26
MinceRthen came QtCurve :)May 12 20:26
*schestowitz got sun in the face, can't typeMay 12 20:26
MinceRoracle in the face?May 12 20:27
schestowitzNo, the starMay 12 20:27
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cubezzzhmmm?May 12 20:36
schestowitzbrbMay 12 20:36
cubezzzthe look isn't exactly the most important thingMay 12 20:36
*schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw2w0GPWPOkMay 12 20:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Headline News is "reporting" on the "free" Office 2020 WebMay 12 20:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'm watching Mark Shuttleworth's latest keynote http://ur1.ca/00j8q ; He says "Free software", but doesn't say "GNU/Linux" (just "Ubuntu")May 12 20:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Need to setup phpBB or any sort of forum urgently, I wish I could have 10 hands, 10 heads and 10 think client. #fossMay 12 20:58
Omar87schestowitz, I hated Shuttleworth when he starting mentioning Gnome Do.May 12 21:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is Unity in #Ubuntu Mono based? How can I check?May 12 21:19
MinceRschestowitz: if you can access the repo it's installed/updated from, you can check its dependenciesMay 12 21:26
MinceRor if you can get the .deb or the .dsc, that could help tooMay 12 21:27
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DaemonFCMinceR: What is it about the Judge programs that is so amusing to me?May 12 21:30
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/12/news/companies/Walmart_donation/May 12 21:34
TechrightsTitle: Wal-Mart pledges $2 billion to fight hunger - May. 12, 2010 .::. Size~: 70.86 KBMay 12 21:34
DaemonFCPR ftwMay 12 21:34
MinceRDaemonFC: why ask me?May 12 21:34
DaemonFCdunno reallyMay 12 21:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] OK. I need a netbook ASAP. To run Ubuntu Lucid. Cheapest with 1yr warranty that's light and not built *completely* cheaply. Recommendations?May 12 21:38
schestowitz"@schestowitz: It's written in C and Vala - you can check by downloading source code from canonical-dx-team une ppa" http://identi.ca/conversation/31859221#notice-31975963May 12 21:39
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schestowitzDaemonFC: now if you denounce Wal-Mart they'll accuse you of killing hungry kidsMay 12 21:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Work loaner Portege M100. Video *does not work* in Lucid - known 2.6.33/34 bug. Arse. Now playing FLAC over network in Windows Media PlayerMay 12 21:41
schestowitzIt's vala http://techrights.org/2010/05/09/mono-csharp-applets-docks/#comment-90122May 12 21:44
TechrightsTitle: Attempts to Push Mono Into Awn | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.46 KBMay 12 21:44
schestowitzand cMay 12 21:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: Did the East India Trading Company do PR?May 12 21:47
DaemonFC:)May 12 21:47
schestowitzWal-Mart is the next SaviourMay 12 21:47
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schestowitz"creative capitalism" :-DMay 12 21:48
DaemonFCschestowitz: When I worked there, someone wrote "Jesus saves" in permanent marker on one of the restroom stallsMay 12 21:48
DaemonFCso I got a marker and turned it into "Jesus saves by shopping at Wal-Mart"May 12 21:48
DaemonFCthat's when they cleaned it off :PMay 12 21:49
schestowitzHeheMay 12 21:54
schestowitzCrazy mythologyMay 12 21:54
DaemonFCThere's a tree of paradise growing under the deckMay 12 21:55
schestowitzYou should have written "sperm" on itMay 12 21:55
DaemonFCI must remember to hack it down tomorrow when I'm mowing the lawnMay 12 21:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: Why?May 12 21:55
schestowitzProhibition of masturbationMay 12 21:55
MinceRJesus saves ...and takes half damage.May 12 21:55
schestowitzJoke..May 12 21:55
schestowitzJesus save... in case of depressionMay 12 21:56
MinceRschestowitz: "Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great..."May 12 21:56
DaemonFCI was watching a Robot Chicken episode last night where they were making fun of some Christian TV show for kids (can't think of the name)May 12 21:56
DaemonFCwhere Jesus was a talking lion and the kid thought he was in an RPGMay 12 21:56
DaemonFChacked the lion's head off and was like "Woohooo, 300 XP!!!!"May 12 21:57
schestowitzEww... sharing toiletsMay 12 21:57
DaemonFCI try not toMay 12 21:57
schestowitzMinceR: MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8May 12 21:57
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Every Sperm is Sacred {Monty Python's Meaning of Life} .::. Size~: 99.8 KBMay 12 21:57
MinceRindeedMay 12 21:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: I no longer do, everMay 12 21:57
schestowitzYesterday at the gym they swapped the WCsMay 12 21:57
DaemonFCschestowitz_log: Putting down 5 or 6 of those toilet guard things while you really have to take a shitMay 12 21:58
schestowitzMen's and women's, for maintenance workMay 12 21:58
DaemonFCerrr schestowitzMay 12 21:58
schestowitzFor women's sauna smelled badMay 12 21:58
MinceRDaemonFC: JESUS CHRIST IS A LION GET IN THE CARMay 12 21:58
DaemonFCMinceR has malted milk balls?May 12 21:58
DaemonFCOK then... :PMay 12 21:58
MinceRnopeMay 12 21:58
schestowitzMinceR: that video is kind of sick thoughMay 12 21:58
schestowitzKids singing about sperm.... makes me think of those pedo-priestsMay 12 21:59
schestowitzI wonder what the parents on those kids in the videos tell themMay 12 21:59
schestowitzAnd whether those kids know what they sing abouMay 12 21:59
DaemonFCMake mommy and daddy some money or we'll beat you and lock you in the closet again?May 12 21:59
DaemonFCjust a guessMay 12 22:00
MinceRthe video isn't sick, it's the catholics it parodies that are sickMay 12 22:00
schestowitzMaybe if Catholic priests didn't think every sperm is sacred they wouldn't be horny for toddlersMay 12 22:00
MinceRmaybe if human society could shake off superstitions left over from the Dark Ages, we wouldn't have such problemsMay 12 22:01
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's not a problem with the church, there's a much more rational eplanation.May 12 22:01
DaemonFCSatan is slipping his operatives into the church to harm their good name, of course.May 12 22:01
DaemonFC:)May 12 22:01
MinceR(and along with those superstitions, the cults based on them)May 12 22:01
schestowitzMinceR: no, no, those CrazyAtheists(C) would go aboit murdering everyoneMay 12 22:01
schestowitzI know cause the Creationists tell meMay 12 22:01
schestowitzThe more devout, the less likely to kill, right?May 12 22:02
schestowitzLike those 9/11 dudesMay 12 22:02
schestowitzAnyway, evolution makes more sociable animals more likely to cooperate and reproduceMay 12 22:02
schestowitzSo it's a natural processMay 12 22:02
MinceRwe wouldn't have creationists eitherMay 12 22:03
schestowitzHostile animals would be ostracised  May 12 22:03
DaemonFCMy mom said I needed to help her shop for a new computer. I think that means I'll be over there one day and she'll have a netbook running Windows XP that she paid $400 for that Walmart has for $300May 12 22:03
DaemonFC:)May 12 22:03
schestowitzCannibalistic tribes would perish as a popultionMay 12 22:03
DaemonFCcause QVC told her what a great deal it was :PMay 12 22:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: it means she got a virusMay 12 22:04
schestowitz"Computer is slow"- > "need to buy a new one"May 12 22:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: It would be nice if someone could pull a Captain Midnight on QVCMay 12 22:04
schestowitzThey think it's like a fuel tank... that "computers" slow down over timeMay 12 22:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: tell her to pay your rent insteadMay 12 22:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: That's why they get the software sold on late night TV scamsMay 12 22:04
schestowitzTV Shops?May 12 22:05
schestowitzBrainwashMay 12 22:05
schestowitzFor the gullibleMay 12 22:05
schestowitz"Second one ABSOLUTELY FREE!!"May 12 22:05
DaemonFC" Please rush me my portable walrus polishing kit. Four super brushes that will clean even the trickiest of seabound mammals. Yes, I am over eighteen, though my IQ isn't" :PMay 12 22:06
DaemonFC-RimmerMay 12 22:06
cubezzzheh, I bet I use the oldest hardwareMay 12 22:08
cubezzzand my computer isn't "slow"May 12 22:08
cubezzzok, skill testing question for you allMay 12 22:11
cubezzzwhat is the average number of hours a hard drive lasts?May 12 22:11
*schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjLdauFoZ9wMay 12 22:12
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cubezzzwell 65,000 hours or longer is possibleMay 12 22:22
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/31856742#notice-31981621 "@schestowitz To shuttlecock, ubuntu is the only gnu/linux... :( and unfortunately many of the people he uses are starting to agree :/"May 12 22:23
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DaemonFCMicrosoft Kin commercials on SyFy latelyMay 12 22:24
DaemonFClots of themMay 12 22:24
cubezzzbahMay 12 22:25
cubezzzcable tv I supposeMay 12 22:25
DaemonFCnoMay 12 22:26
cubezzz"At over twenty-eight years, this film marks the longest gap between a live-action film and its theatrical sequel in Hollywood history."May 12 22:26
cubezzzwhich film is it?May 12 22:26
DaemonFCMicrosoft is paying off a lot of TV networks to carry Windows adsMay 12 22:27
cubezzzwhich networks?May 12 22:27
cubezzzI almost never see Microsoft adsMay 12 22:28
DaemonFCHistory, Syfy, Discovery and all related channels.....May 12 22:28
DaemonFCthose are where I've seen mostMay 12 22:28
cubezzzok, yes but that's cable tv right? :)May 12 22:29
enthymemeyeah.  Apparently Microsoft totally copied these random people when they made windows 7May 12 22:29
DaemonFCcubezzz: Cable/SatelliteMay 12 22:30
DaemonFCwhy?May 12 22:30
enthymemealso that french girl isn't as pretty in her re-enactment as she is in "real life".May 12 22:30
cubezzzwell I'm not seeing it off antennaMay 12 22:30
cubezzzor FTA satellite :)May 12 22:30
DaemonFCall 4 channels? :)May 12 22:31
cubezzz*ahem* sorry, noMay 12 22:31
cubezzzI get 26 channels from antenna, and 153 channels from Galaxy 19May 12 22:31
DaemonFClots of Jesus and Home Shopping crap they didn't bother to encryptMay 12 22:32
DaemonFCor you bought some kind of pirate descrambler card somewhereMay 12 22:32
cubezzzno, not pirateMay 12 22:32
schestowitz"Planet wasn't designed for it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjLdauFoZ9wMay 12 22:33
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DaemonFCif anyone could point a dish into the sky and get all kinds of good free channels, there wouldn't be a satellite TV businessMay 12 22:33
schestowitzThis implied the planet was designed for someone/usMay 12 22:33
DaemonFCI've seen what you get for freeMay 12 22:33
cubezzzhere DaemonFC, this is what I get from Antenna:May 12 22:33
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/other/dtv.txtMay 12 22:33
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DaemonFCit's Jesus and home shoppingMay 12 22:34
cubezzzit's not, why don't you look at the listMay 12 22:34
cubezzzthere's not a single "Home shopping channel"May 12 22:36
DaemonFChehMay 12 22:37
DaemonFCI could probably get 5-6 channels here May 12 22:37
DaemonFCmaybe a couple more with the antenna on the roofMay 12 22:37
DaemonFCDirecTV finally gave up and threw in locals for freeMay 12 22:39
DaemonFCand they don't fade out when there's a stormMay 12 22:39
DaemonFCantenna does thatMay 12 22:39
cubezzzDaemonFC, there's at _least_ a dozen satellites we can receive from in North AmericaMay 12 22:42
cubezzzFTA May 12 22:42
cubezzznot payMay 12 22:42
DaemonFCno idea what my dish is pointing atMay 12 22:42
DaemonFCin fact, I have little understanding of how it worksMay 12 22:42
cubezzzso you have a shrimpy dish that can't receive FTAMay 12 22:43
cubezzzthat's almost for certainMay 12 22:43
DaemonFCbut if it could all be free, why aren't there businesses of putting some dish in your yard that can get all the channels for free?May 12 22:43
cubezzzFTA dishes are at least 30 inches in diameterMay 12 22:43
DaemonFCpeople would pay for thoseMay 12 22:43
cubezzzwell I think that people don't really know what's possible... they are ignorantMay 12 22:44
DaemonFChell, I'd pay for some super jumbo deluxe dish that cost $500 if I never had to pay a monthly bill againMay 12 22:44
cubezzzthey have and they did :)May 12 22:44
cubezzzyou haven't heard of C-band?May 12 22:44
cubezzzit's been around for a long timeMay 12 22:45
DaemonFCwhat channels do you get?May 12 22:45
DaemonFCdon't they scramble them?May 12 22:45
cubezzznoMay 12 22:45
cubezzzthat's why it's called Free-To-AirMay 12 22:45
cubezzzand you sometimes get retransmissions not encryptedMay 12 22:46
cubezzzpeople don't talk about it though :)May 12 22:46
cubezzzI know one guy who has 5 sat dishes on his roofMay 12 22:47
cubezzzok, another example...May 12 22:47
cubezzzyou can't get a low power UHF channel, it's too far awayMay 12 22:48
cubezzzodds are you can get it on satMay 12 22:48
cubezzzand it's cheap, for about $120 you could set it upMay 12 22:49
cubezzzdish, receiver, cable, mounting brackets... assuming you put it up yourselfMay 12 22:49
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WildfeedMay 12 22:51
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MinceRgnMay 12 22:55
DaemonFChmmmMay 12 22:58
DaemonFCno commercialsMay 12 22:58
DaemonFC:DMay 12 22:58
DaemonFChttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20004772-17.htmlMay 12 23:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On the way home and it looks like I'm going to loose a Twitter bet with a collegueMay 12 23:11
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oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1 Seen this yet schestowitzMay 12 23:36
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oiaohmThis is good and bad news.  Steam going native Linux is good.  But it death to wine of a large section of its userbase.May 12 23:37
schestowitzoiaohm: expected:-)May 12 23:37
schestowitzoiaohm: I'm not worried about WineMay 12 23:38
schestowitzThe hope is that wine will just be used as a temporary measure for mostMay 12 23:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Indian Government Makes National Operating System, Maybe #GNU #Linux Based http://ur1.ca/00k4d diversity=good http://ur1.ca/00k4eMay 12 23:38
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schestowitzThey can still get development fundedMay 12 23:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Advice for Moving From #Windows to #GNU #Linux http://blog.worldlabel.com/2010/migrating-from-windows-to-gnulinux.htmlMay 12 23:39
oiaohmIe wine userbase reducing effects me.  schestowitzMay 12 23:40
TechrightsTitle: Migrating from Windows to GNU/Linux  | Worldlabel Blog .::. Size~: 36.67 KBMay 12 23:40
oiaohmSo personal bias.  schestowitzMay 12 23:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'm loving Minorok. It shows how the power and scalability of Free software leaves everyone happy #kdeMay 12 23:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #GNU #Linux is Already a Winner (and Moving Upwards) http://ur1.ca/00k5w http://ur1.ca/00k63May 12 23:44
TechrightsTitle:   Who Says Desktop Linux Is Doomed?  .::. Size~: 32.56 KBMay 12 23:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Survey of Minimal/Lightweight Desktops for #GNU #Linux http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/7061/1/May 12 23:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Desktops Quite Friendly, Flexible http://ur1.ca/00f27 http://ur1.ca/00k6vMay 12 23:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux ( #Kernel Space) Version 2.6.34 Nearly here http://ur1.ca/00k82 ATI Linux Power Management http://ur1.ca/00k83May 12 23:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Graphics Stack in #Linux to Require Fewer Hurdles; X.Org Server 1.8.1 Released http://ur1.ca/00k8q http://ur1.ca/00k8rMay 12 23:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine 1.2 Has Big Plans http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/wine-release/wine-12-release-plans.htmlMay 12 23:56

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