05.09.10
Attempts to Push Mono Into Awn
Summary: A popular Mono-free “dock” application for GNU/Linux faces attempts to put C# applets in it
THE following Mono alert is not news, but it came up earlier today in IRC.
Docky is already a Mono intrusion vector, but it turns out that Awn too is at risk because of Mono enthusiasts (an Awn developer in this case).
“MONO guys still spreading their poison in GNOME,” claims Frodo, “guess you guys aren’t awake yet…”
“Mono poison in GNOME [is] kinda not surprising any more,” says Oiaohm. █
Will said,
May 10, 2010 at 6:46 am
They already have Docky; isn’t that enough? (No, silly me. This is Microsoft. Of course that won’t be enough for them). Still, I hope this remains an optional add-on to AWN at most, not a core dependency. AWN is quite nice and appears to be a little faster/more “snappier/responsive” than Docky.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:
May 10th, 2010 at 7:00 am
I tried Awn for about a year, but xbindkeys was faster to work with.
Agent_Smith said,
May 10, 2010 at 10:18 am
I recently switched to Enlightenment, and boy, I’m very impressed. Do you know of any Mono intrusion on Enlightenment ???
Thanks in advance.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:
May 10th, 2010 at 10:41 am
You could install Mono on top of that. By default it is usually GNOME desktops that come with Mono, depending on the distributor.
Agent_Smith Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
BTW, Gnome is ugly as hell. And, unfortunately, Enlightenment is based on GTK, so the apps look terrible, even if the desktop environment looks gr8, the apps don’t… Pity.
your_friend Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Gnome once used E16 as a Window Manager but Enlightenment has always been it’s own project. Both E16 and E17 are actively maintained today. You can run Gnome, KDE, Window Maker, OpenMotif and other applications with other widget sets equally well with the Enlightenment Window manager. Free software works like that.
Gnome too is highly configurable so you don’t have to keep looks you don’t like. Gnome has good font rendering and many individual applications are excellent but the environment has been shown to be a little heavier than comparable KDE and alternate window managers. Microsoft’s mono invasion of Gnome would be a lesser crime if Gnome was worthless.
gnufreex said,
May 12, 2010 at 5:01 am
Ubuntu Nebook Remix will have Unity… I think that is based on Mono but I did not checked.
But based on who is advertising it on UF:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478915
I would say it is 100% Mono. In case people do not know, the OP in linked thread is paid microsoft astroturfer, all he does is advertising Mono. Just look at his UF posts ang google his nick.
Agent_Smith Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 10:38 am
The problem here is: Netbooks need a light and lean environment. And Mono is bloated, and sluggish as hell. Mono on netbooks would render them unusable.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
I’m watching this keynote at the moment. David (the GNOME-Do) guy is behind Unity and he’s a Mono/C# developer. The software is GPLv3-licensed. Where can the source code be found?
Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I’ve just gotten an answer
http://identi.ca/conversation/31859221#notice-31975963
“It’s written in C and Vala – you can check by downloading source code from canonical-dx-team une ppa”
[...]
“You could always purge any mono libraries, and then see if it still runs.
”
[...]
“Head to https://edge.launchpad.net/unity . It’s written in Vala (ergo, C)
”
Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 10:55 am
You might be confusing this with a different Unity that’s Mono based.
gnufreex Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 11:49 am
So no Mono in this Unity?
I did not managed to find information, and I do not feel like downloading source code now.
But on a side note: It looks like astroturfers are very active on Ubuntu Forums, aside from this one is taking a break from advertising all Mono.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:
May 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Yes, I see that in USENET forums too. 24/7 attacks on Ubuntu from Windows programmers.