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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's easy for me to say, but I think the "rebels" should hold out. #Gadhafi only has so much mercenary money #libyaMar 04 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks suspect: Where Army sees traitor, some see whistleblower http://is.gd/3cB2fJ !wlMar 04 00:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @satipera: @silner Bloody Reuters "Chavez the socialist leader" they never say "Obama the capitalist leader"Mar 04 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In restricted speech, former MI6 chief credits WikiLeaks with ‘tidal wave' of revolutions http://is.gd/RenE4T !wlMar 04 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In restricted speech, former MI6 chief credits WikiLeaks with ‘tidal wave’ of revolutions | Raw Replay .::. Size~: 35.49 KBMar 04 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks reveals illegal Peru mahogany exports in US stores http://is.gd/RoDbbb !wlMar 04 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @kattekrab: #digitisethedawn news: Women on the line http://digitisethedawn.org/women-lineMar 04 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: RT @krystalline_k: Activist Communique: Aboriginal Missing & Murdered Women Conf http://tinyurl.com/4h9axdv #TorontoMar 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CENSORED NEWS: Wikileaks reveals illegal Peru mahogany exports in US stores .::. Size~: 217.42 KBMar 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Women on the line | Digitise The Dawn .::. Size~: 14.1 KBMar 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Activist Communique: Aboriginal Missing & Murdered Women Awareness Conference | rabble.ca .::. Size~: 31.09 KBMar 04 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @BarrettBrownLOL: Drop the stock. If you had a line it's Pal bang pop. #palantir #hbgary #lulz http://tinyurl.com/6g8stp4Mar 04 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @dduane: Aaaaand in #Libya : the bombs were A Misunderstanding. http://bit.ly/hrbhy9 BWAHAHAHAHA.Mar 04 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Themis: Questions about Palantir surface in HBGary Federal’s aftermath - Security .::. Size~: 32.36 KBMar 04 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libya: Gaddafi son says bombs were 'misunderstanding' - Telegraph .::. Size~: 83.31 KBMar 04 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @der_bluthund: Anonymous Communiqué: We are Anonymous http://bit.ly/gdxHVI #AnonymousMar 04 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @cancivlib: Quebec headed toward ‘radical option’ on religious minorities, sociologist fears http://bit.ly/hWnllgMar 04 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 443 This one is gross, even for me. One description of Hayel. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #fantasy #Minis #readingMar 04 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous Communiqué: We are Anonymous | Philip Brennan .::. Size~: 104.76 KBMar 04 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quebec headed toward ‘radical option’ on religious minorities, sociologist fears - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 90.07 KBMar 04 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eclipse Court .::. Size~: 176.46 KBMar 04 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://alturl.com/i4z6q !wlMar 04 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jamie_love: Blind groups in different countries report USPTO flying around the world to lobby NGOs against a WIPO treaty for the blind.Mar 04 00:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The WIKILEAKS NEWS & VIEWS BLOG for Thursday, Day 96 | The Nation .::. Size~: 67.7 KBMar 04 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @planetfedora Robyn Bergeron: And now, it’s time for the 16th occurrence of: NAME THAT FEDORA RELEASE: That’s right, folks: It... htt ...Mar 04 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks news update http://www.thenation.com/blog/158976/wikileaks-news-views-blog-thursday-day-96 http://bit.ly/fw7buGMar 04 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: RT @nowtoronto: Police Services Bd - John Sewell says 8 months after G20 board hasn`t yet interviewed a person #policeMar 04 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The WIKILEAKS NEWS & VIEWS BLOG for Thursday, Day 96 | The Nation .::. Size~: 67.7 KBMar 04 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: L'ESPRESSO: Funerali, B. arriva in ritardo | http://is.gd/rFWIZI http://bit.ly/dZUtzeMar 04 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] L'ESPRESSO: Funerali, B. arriva in ritardo | http://is.gd/rFWIZI !wlMar 04 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] NICTA releases seL4, a formally verified microkernel - http://is.gd/HYq8fL - (not open source, alas)Mar 04 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I gotta say, #GNOME3 is looking pretty good. Looking forward to what distros will do with it. http://www.gnome3.orgMar 04 00:29
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Funerali, B. arriva in ritardo - l’Espresso .::. Size~: 44.91 KBMar 04 00:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: seL4 (Secure Embedded L4) | ERTOS | NICTA .::. Size~: 49.38 KBMar 04 00:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3 - Made of Easy .::. Size~: 5.76 KBMar 04 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Last day for the @Thinkgeek @GeekAWeek auction! Geek gear goldmine. Proceeds benefit EFF and Child's Play. https://eff.org/r.z8qMar 04 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: thinkgeekmonkeys items - Get great deals on Collectibles, Books items on eBay.com! .::. Size~: 78.49 KBMar 04 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: RT @Colorlines: 20 Years After Rodney King, Who's Holding Cops Accountable? http://bit.ly/gfjBKGMar 04 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 445 tser : Niku's turn. http://bit.ly/endvSd #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit #throughfluhazeMar 04 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 Years After Rodney King, Who’s Holding Cops Accountable? - COLORLINES .::. Size~: 27.95 KBMar 04 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 445 Teaser : He can only do that while he breathes | C H E V E N G A • L I V E S • H E R E .::. Size~: 39.25 KBMar 04 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Small Business/Tourism) Rob Moore was lobbied by Westport Power Inc. on Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/gKokGpMar 04 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying of Canada .::. Size~: 14.52 KBMar 04 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New documentary on Collateral Murder, WikiLeaks & Bradley Manning http://is.gd/r2GvGI !wlMar 04 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Panorama - Shooters walk free, whistleblower jailed -  DasErste.de .::. Size~: 15.48 KBMar 04 00:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: Someone at the Arch Linux forums came up with a patch to Catalyst to allow it to work on a kernel with no Big Kernel LockMar 04 00:39
DaemonFCas far as I know that's the only thing I use that needs the BKLMar 04 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Okay, firefox, you lose. Back to KonqiMar 04 00:42
DaemonFCFailFox 4, beta 596Mar 04 00:43
DaemonFCyear, 3000Mar 04 00:43
DaemonFCno, we can't release it yet, Direct2D is still slow on some japanese websiteMar 04 00:44
DaemonFCmake that a blockerMar 04 00:44
DaemonFCB-)Mar 04 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note to journalists: April 5 will be the one year anniversary of our release of http://collateralmurder.com/ documentary !wlMar 04 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just blew away fifteen important tabs because it decided to crash loading google.comMar 04 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Collateral Murder .::. Size~: 6.76 KBMar 04 00:44
DaemonFCthe fact that it's this buggy at this point makes me wonder if they're developing a Duke Nukem Forever extension or somethingMar 04 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Anyone interested in a brewery tour in San Francisco next Friday evening, March 11?Mar 04 00:46
DaemonFCWho preorders a game that's going to be downloadable?Mar 04 00:47
DaemonFCare they going to run out of copies?Mar 04 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] ♺ @savebradley "Aiding the enemy" among newest charges: http://ur1.ca/3dt7o But "enemy" so vague as to include civilians—like us. !wikileaksMar 04 00:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bradley Manning may face death penalty | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.98 KBMar 04 00:47
oiaohmDaemonFC: Its not always copies.Mar 04 00:48
oiaohmDaemonFC: some online games people do preorder for the simple reason of limited server sizes.Mar 04 00:48
DaemonFCpreordering games is a scam started by video game storesMar 04 00:50
DaemonFCthey know they're getting enough copies, but if they can get people to preorder it, then they can throw that money in an interest-bearing account\Mar 04 00:50
DaemonFC*and* not everyone comes to get the game, the deposit is pure profitMar 04 00:51
DaemonFCbut downloadable content preordering sounds like bullshit to me tooMar 04 00:51
oiaohmFor some of the server dependant games it not.Mar 04 00:52
oiaohmBut a lot are.  DaemonFCMar 04 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] http://whatnonprofitssay.org communications&nonprofits report, under CC BY license, funded by @Hewlett_FoundMar 04 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Nonprofits Say - reporting on a study of communications training .::. Size~: 20.75 KBMar 04 00:52
oiaohmIe some server games are nasty the boot you out in case of execess load by order of copy.Mar 04 00:52
DaemonFCif the deposit at those stores is $10, they do 1,000 preorders for a title, and 1% don't come to pick it up, the store pockets $100Mar 04 00:53
DaemonFCplus the interest on everyone's $10Mar 04 00:53
DaemonFCwhat's the rub on download preorders?Mar 04 00:53
DaemonFCinterest on accounts is crap these daysMar 04 00:53
oiaohmAgain depends where you have accoun.Mar 04 00:54
DaemonFCit costs them nothing to clone data if the customer gets it or notMar 04 00:54
oiaohmI can get upto 9 percent for a working account.Mar 04 00:54
DaemonFCmy checking account pays like 0.5%Mar 04 00:55
DaemonFCit's a joke, but most of them now pay nothing or make you pay themMar 04 00:55
DaemonFCused to be typical to get 2-3% on checkingMar 04 00:55
DaemonFCwonder what kind of account Gamestop shoves that money intoMar 04 00:55
oiaohmMost likely the same as me.Mar 04 00:55
oiaohmShare traders account.Mar 04 00:56
DaemonFCINDOR came back and told me that I forget to declare $5 in interest one yearMar 04 00:56
DaemonFCI had to refile my taxes because they were auditing me instead of one of their millionaire buddiesMar 04 00:57
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tomorrow! EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn and EFF Fellow Jason Schultz discuss speech protection in CDA 230. https://eff.org/r.3zpMar 04 00:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 47 U.S.C. § 230: a 15 Year Retrospective | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 8.89 KBMar 04 00:57
DaemonFCthese people are only ruthless if it means wasting thousands of dollars on efforts to collect hundreds of dollarsMar 04 00:57
DaemonFCthey let what amounts to organized crime go uncheckedMar 04 00:58
oiaohmMy investment account on my share trading.  Pays 5.5 percent on 1 dollar.  DaemonFCMar 04 00:58
oiaohmAlso contains zero fees and charges.  DaemonFCMar 04 00:58
DaemonFCoiaohm: What we need is a system where I get to loan people their own money at usurious interest rates and it's totally legalMar 04 00:59
DaemonFCoh wait, secured credit cardsMar 04 00:59
DaemonFCright :)Mar 04 00:59
oiaohmI can transfer in and out of that account in under 24 hours.Mar 04 00:59
oiaohmNo fees for that either.Mar 04 00:59
oiaohmSharetrading accounts are quite decent.  DaemonFCMar 04 01:00
DaemonFCIf you be a good little consumer and show us you're dumb enough to use this thing, someday we may let you have a real credit cardMar 04 01:00
DaemonFC:DMar 04 01:00
oiaohmNo min ballances no charges.  And you do get interest.Mar 04 01:00
oiaohmIncluded is a credit/debit card.Mar 04 01:00
DaemonFCWells Fargo calls that an "opportunity" cardMar 04 01:01
DaemonFCit's an "opportunity" to line their pockets with no risk to themMar 04 01:01
DaemonFCI'll take it!Mar 04 01:01
oiaohmCan you share trade with it?Mar 04 01:01
oiaohmBasically I have 1 account and I can do what ever I want.  DaemonFCMar 04 01:01
DaemonFCoiaohm: My mom's new husband has shitty credit and tanked hers when he married herMar 04 01:02
DaemonFCnow they want to go on vacation but the hotel makes you leave a credit card on fileMar 04 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Empowerment" combined with ", but ..." is meaningless. #agile #failMar 04 01:02
oiaohmYou also find Hotels are very careful about touching share trading account credit cards.Mar 04 01:03
DaemonFCso I told her go apply for one of those "secured" cards, DON'T charge ANYTHING to it, show that to them, and when she gets back, close the account and get her $300 backMar 04 01:03
DaemonFCthese banks collaborate with businesses to discriminate against customers who don't have credit cardsMar 04 01:04
DaemonFCthen the bank decides who gets cards and who has to have an "opportunity"Mar 04 01:04
oiaohmNasty feature I have is the option to block payments to particular parties.  Not that the account has no blance.    Mar 04 01:04
oiaohmYes this include Hotels.Mar 04 01:05
oiaohmSo having my card on file does not mean they will get paid.Mar 04 01:05
abeNd-orgbut you would be turned over to collection agencies who will hound you foreverMar 04 01:06
oiaohmabeNd-org: the issue with a lot of hotels collect is some of them try to double take the bill.Mar 04 01:06
oiaohmabeNd-org: and not sending out invoices.Mar 04 01:06
oiaohmNote I can authroise payment to them.  They just cannot take without being allowed.Mar 04 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] And economist.com works with https as well. Good. https://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2011/03/internet_security #fbMar 04 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet security: A sense of false security | The Economist .::. Size~: 99.87 KBMar 04 01:07
DaemonFCI hate credit cardsMar 04 01:07
oiaohmShare trading accouts have some nice controlls against false transations.Mar 04 01:08
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DaemonFCthere's few things you need bad enough to go into debt overMar 04 01:08
abeNd-orgi hate the collections companyMar 04 01:08
abeNd-orgyes, I have a not-so-common last nameMar 04 01:08
DaemonFCI just blow them offMar 04 01:08
abeNd-orgdoes that mean i *KNOW* everyone with my last name? no.... so take me off the list & stop calling meMar 04 01:09
DaemonFCI'm actually immune from their lawsuits by virtue of having no assets they could takeMar 04 01:09
abeNd-orgyea, i get a couple calls a week for someone ive never heard ofMar 04 01:09
oiaohmI don't have much trouble with collection companies.Mar 04 01:09
oiaohmThey bother me.  I have them audited.  Problem solved.Mar 04 01:09
DaemonFCI fuck with themMar 04 01:09
DaemonFCasked one calling about hospital bills what I owed themMar 04 01:10
abeNd-org*I* have no problems with that, there is no reason for them to call *me*Mar 04 01:10
DaemonFCsaid $9,000 or somethingMar 04 01:10
abeNd-orgits this other person with my last name that they keep trying to use me to track downMar 04 01:10
oiaohmabeNd-org: I own nothing.Mar 04 01:10
abeNd-orgthe same jerks call my parents tooMar 04 01:10
DaemonFCtold her I just had to go down to the basement and chisel off a gold brick for themMar 04 01:10
oiaohmabeNd-org: I love australian law.Mar 04 01:10
DaemonFCand hung upMar 04 01:10
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 01:10
abeNd-orgweve never heard of the person they are harrassing us forMar 04 01:10
oiaohmabeNd-org: a collection company bothering a person who does not owe money is an offence.Mar 04 01:11
abeNd-orgit is legal for them the harass who they think is familyMar 04 01:11
oiaohmabeNd-org: That leads to there complete books being audited for wrong doing.Mar 04 01:11
DaemonFCthat doesn't stop them from doing it thoughMar 04 01:11
DaemonFCI have them calling me looking for my momMar 04 01:11
DaemonFCtold them to fuck offMar 04 01:11
DaemonFCthey call back again the next dayMar 04 01:11
DaemonFCthey know they have lawyers and money and I don'tMar 04 01:11
oiaohmabeNd-org: techially no bothing the family is not tollerated either.Mar 04 01:12
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DaemonFCfat chance they're getting sued for pestering meMar 04 01:12
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oiaohmabeNd-org: If its not your debt they don't have the right to bother you.Mar 04 01:12
DaemonFCthey have more money than you, that gives them the right to do anything they wantMar 04 01:12
oiaohmabeNd-org: Other than maybe camping outside waiting for the gulity person to turn up.Mar 04 01:12
GoForbes28hello DFCMar 04 01:12
DaemonFCtheir shit smells like cinnamon bunsMar 04 01:12
GoForbes28Hello OHMMar 04 01:13
oiaohmHi GoForbes28Mar 04 01:13
abeNd-orgoiaohm: that is what they always claim, that they had my number (and my parents) as the person's residence Mar 04 01:13
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GoForbes28What's the topic?Mar 04 01:13
DaemonFCpredatory banks and unscrupulous shyster collection agenciesMar 04 01:14
DaemonFCfun stuffMar 04 01:14
abeNd-orgso in that way, they get away with it legallyMar 04 01:14
oiaohmabeNd-org: Legally not permitted.Mar 04 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] NSA winding down new development on HAP (high assurance platform), which means it worked, I think - http://is.gd/BvHesiMar 04 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oO the Gadaffi family own 7% of #Juventus? #football those shares have been suspended along with the rest of Gadaffi's accountsMar 04 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NSA Winds Down Secure Virtualization Platform Development -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 87.1 KBMar 04 01:14
oiaohmabeNd-org: They are using fraudualt information.Mar 04 01:14
GoForbes28speaking of illegalityMar 04 01:14
oiaohmabeNd-org: so they should have contected police.  Mar 04 01:14
GoForbes28iblocklist.com was hit by a DOS attackMar 04 01:14
oiaohmabeNd-org: because they have been confirmed the information was incorrect.Mar 04 01:14
oiaohmabeNd-org: Ie I guess where you are has never been his residenceMar 04 01:15
DaemonFCGoForbes28: Those blocklists are a joke anywayMar 04 01:15
DaemonFCyou can get on them just for making those guys made at youMar 04 01:15
oiaohmabeNd-org: Only loop hole is if the person had lived at that location even then its minor loop hole.Mar 04 01:15
GoForbes28If they were, then what's the point of DOSing them?Mar 04 01:15
DaemonFCthey'll slip your IP range in their blocklist Mar 04 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rrix @x11r5 School's out for summer?Mar 04 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix I think @x11r5 thought your tab-crash was related to your video card driver again. He felt responsible ;-)Mar 04 01:16
GoForbes28The iblocklists obviously work well enough to threaten the conglomeratesMar 04 01:16
DaemonFCthen all of a sudden, anyone using the blocklist is cut off from your bittorrent clientMar 04 01:16
GoForbes28I have not had any problemMar 04 01:16
DaemonFCit's probably not the MAFIAA doing itMar 04 01:16
abeNd-orghttp://www.cpflaw.com/stopcalls.html#7Mar 04 01:16
GoForbes28Using PeerBlock for exampleMar 04 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stop Harrassing Phone Calls .::. Size~: 27.34 KBMar 04 01:16
DaemonFCit's probably a 12 year old commanding a Windows botnetMar 04 01:16
abeNd-orgso with that they can call me once legally, but not a second time if i ask them not to call againMar 04 01:16
GoForbes28sucksMar 04 01:16
GoForbes28With PeerBlock, the lists seem to work wellMar 04 01:17
GoForbes28I think the problem is when people use too many listsMar 04 01:17
oiaohmabeNd-org: Yes I did collections here in Australia for a while.  Legally and by the book.   Yes some people hated me.  Most nasty one I did was getting a court order that a person could not go to any of the local pubs and buy anything until they paid debt.Mar 04 01:17
GoForbes28the defaults with Peerblock don't seem to be excessiveMar 04 01:17
GoForbes28except for regular browsingMar 04 01:17
oiaohmabeNd-org: Supprisinly 200 000 dollar debt was payed in 2 weeks.Mar 04 01:17
GoForbes28I can download from the site thoughMar 04 01:18
abeNd-orgoiaohm: hah, took away his drink! niceMar 04 01:18
GoForbes28so iblocklist directory listings are upMar 04 01:18
abeNd-orgoiaohm: stateside i think the laws are a bit more lax & in favor of the collections companies :/Mar 04 01:18
GoForbes28Daemon, what specifically were you negatively referencing in regards to the lists?Mar 04 01:18
DaemonFCGoForbes28: Most of the protection those lists provide comes from one section, Hijacked, Proxies, and BogonMar 04 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note to journalists: Sun March 6 will mark the 100th day of Cablegate. over 5k cables released and 50 organizations publishing !wlMar 04 01:19
oiaohmabeNd-org: The guy had no assets or findable bank acounts.  But he would eat out at the local pubs every breakfast lunch and tea.Mar 04 01:19
DaemonFCthat's what the MAFIAA hides behind to do their dirty workMar 04 01:19
DaemonFCnot the IP address for www.microsoft.comMar 04 01:19
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 01:19
oiaohmabeNd-org: So I did more than cut off drink.Mar 04 01:19
GoForbes28You never know, some people are just naiveMar 04 01:19
GoForbes28Peerblock comes with "P2p" listMar 04 01:20
DaemonFCGoForbes28: The Paranoid list cuts off UniversitiesMar 04 01:20
GoForbes28That's goodMar 04 01:20
DaemonFCnothing like killing your download speed because you blocked a college kid with a Tier 3Mar 04 01:20
oiaohmabeNd-org: I good debt collectors get the money threw many creative ways.Mar 04 01:20
GoForbes28If you happen to be at the university however, it can help download speeds a lotMar 04 01:21
abeNd-orgoiaohm: perhaps next time i call ill throw out that they are violating creditor harassment lawsMar 04 01:21
oiaohmabeNd-org: basically check out your laws most likely the location for them to bother you would have had to be a resendence.Mar 04 01:21
oiaohmabeNd-org: And they better have displayable evendences to back that up.Mar 04 01:22
abeNd-orgi used to do IT for a debt collector on the side, it was amazing the things he had in his storage barnMar 04 01:22
DaemonFCmy setup is encryption off but allowed, level 1 and 2, Hijacked, Proxies, and Bogon, and uTP used exclusivelyMar 04 01:22
DaemonFC(Ktorrent)Mar 04 01:22
abeNd-orgthis being a brand new residence i know this other mystery matching last name person couldn't have lived here :PMar 04 01:23
DaemonFCthe only reason to not disable encryption is because some clients default to insisting itMar 04 01:23
oiaohmabeNd-org: Most wrong I have seen a debt collector do is debt collect the hurse  at a funeral.Mar 04 01:23
DaemonFCit doesn't stop ISP throttling and it isn't a privacy toolMar 04 01:23
oiaohmYes body taken in to church and the item to take it away taken.  abeNd-orgMar 04 01:23
abeNd-orgoiaohm: ouch, body too?Mar 04 01:24
abeNd-orgyep...thats badMar 04 01:24
DaemonFCthere's a lot of myths about bittorrent, lucky rabbits feet, and throwing salt over your shoulderMar 04 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @csmart "Kororaa GNU/Linux is back" - article at iTWire http://ur1.ca/3dt4k !Kororaa !Fedora !LinuxMar 04 01:24
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oiaohmMind you the complete familly was racking up debts everywhere.  abeNd-orgMar 04 01:24
oiaohmMagically stopped after that.Mar 04 01:24
GoForbes28When your ISP is controlled by Bell Canada, you need every trick you can get for BitTorrentMar 04 01:25
abeNd-orgthat is at least one good thing my overly strict dad did for me is to instill respect for money & dont go nuts with itMar 04 01:25
GoForbes28Are those blocklist a part of P2P?Mar 04 01:25
GoForbes28and why only level 1 and 2?Mar 04 01:25
DaemonFCblocklists are an inconvenience to these people at bestMar 04 01:26
oiaohmNan.   There is a ISP here that forbids bittorrent and other p2p completely.Mar 04 01:26
DaemonFCthe more you add, the more false positives there will obviously beMar 04 01:26
GoForbes28okMar 04 01:26
GoForbes28what's wrong with level 3?Mar 04 01:26
DaemonFCnothing, I just figure it's excessiveMar 04 01:26
abeNd-orgall the wireless tower ISP around here forbid all torrent/p2p, only the far slower dsl around here allows unrestrictedMar 04 01:26
oiaohmUse it and they disconnect you GoForbes28 but then keeps on billing you for 3 years.   Makes Bell Canada look nice. Mar 04 01:26
abeNd-orgof course, those same wireless tower isp cap you at 1GB a day as wellMar 04 01:27
abeNd-orgwatch a netflix movie & all of a sudden you can't chat on irc :)Mar 04 01:27
oiaohmYour Email Id has won 1,000,000.00 GBP in the British MICROSOFT Promo 2010. send your  << Hmm some people must be dumb.Mar 04 01:28
oiaohmWhen would MS give out free money.Mar 04 01:28
DaemonFCLevel 3 just reeks of being arbitrary and having the highest number of false positives and people who are only on it because someone has a grudge against themMar 04 01:28
GoForbes28Do they have a monopoly oiaohm?Mar 04 01:29
GoForbes28okMar 04 01:29
GoForbes28So you recommend all those blocklists?Mar 04 01:29
DaemonFCthe fact they can't tell you exactly why something is in the list tells me I don't want to use itMar 04 01:29
GoForbes28makes senseMar 04 01:30
GoForbes28the lists you mentioned are the ones you would recommend?Mar 04 01:30
DaemonFCniplist is saneMar 04 01:30
DaemonFCpiplist isn'tMar 04 01:30
DaemonFCpiplist is more voodoo than factMar 04 01:31
GoForbes28okMar 04 01:31
GoForbes28Can you list the lists you use once more so I can add them?Mar 04 01:31
DaemonFCnipfilter.dat.gz is what you should useMar 04 01:32
DaemonFCif you don't want to spend time combining them yourselfMar 04 01:32
DaemonFCit has companies that are obviously hostile and ranges where no traffic should ever be coming fromMar 04 01:33
DaemonFCit's probably the best you can doMar 04 01:33
GoForbes28but I thought you use level 1 and 2, Hijacked, Proxies, and Bogon, and uTPMar 04 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Meeting on 2nd March in Parliament House Canberra with MPs re Julian Assange. http://alturl.com/64yay !wlMar 04 01:34
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DaemonFCI meant nipfilter I just couldn't recall what they called it exactlyMar 04 01:34
GoForbes28I don't have to merge them, I just use a blocking programMar 04 01:35
DaemonFCunfortunately their software to customize lists is Windows onlyMar 04 01:35
DaemonFCbut I have used it in Wine before, a lot time agoMar 04 01:35
GoForbes28But it is Free softwareMar 04 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Why !Fedora?" - why #Kororaa is based on this #distro instead of #Gentoo or #Ubuntu. https://kororaa.org/why-fedora/Mar 04 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @thelasthominin What the hell is wrong with you, America? Wisconsin Senate approves use of force to arrest absent Democrats - http:// ...Mar 04 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stripping Manning naked to compel him to testify against Assange is similar to abuses at Abu Ghraib & Guantanamo !wlMar 04 01:39
DaemonFCthe biggest problem I have with Yum is that it tends to hang sometimesMar 04 01:39
DaemonFCkill -9 fixes thatMar 04 01:39
DaemonFCbeen that way forever thoughMar 04 01:39
GoForbes28Since I have the blocking software, are using those seperate lists effective?Mar 04 01:42
DaemonFCI wouldn't use othersMar 04 01:45
DaemonFCyou'll get mostly overlapMar 04 01:45
GoForbes28I meant just level 1 and 2, Hijacked, Proxies, and Bogon, and uTP Mar 04 01:45
GoForbes28?Mar 04 01:45
DaemonFCuTP is a protocol :)Mar 04 01:45
DaemonFCit's a quality of service layer on top of TCP actuallyMar 04 01:45
GoForbes28oh right :blushMar 04 01:45
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GoForbes28ok, level 1 and 2, Hijacked, Proxies, and Bogon then?Mar 04 01:47
DaemonFCyes, all of which are in nipfilterMar 04 01:50
GoForbes28hmm?Mar 04 01:50
GoForbes28sorry, n/mMar 04 01:50
GoForbes28ok, I will add those then.  Thx for the adviceMar 04 01:50
*DaemonFC notices a lot of myths about SELinux that never seem to die thanks to early Fedora releasesMar 04 01:51
GoForbes28explain...Mar 04 01:51
DaemonFCit's actually trivial to set it up correctly in DebianMar 04 01:51
DaemonFCthe hardest part is waiting for the file system to be labeledMar 04 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Brad Mehldau tickets secured. #jazzedMar 04 01:52
DaemonFCTomboy seems to do a lot to piss it off :), the first thing Tomboy did on first boot when Fedora included it was trigger an AVC denial and crashMar 04 01:53
GoForbes28What does SELinux do again?Mar 04 01:53
GoForbes28N/M, I'll look it upMar 04 01:56
GoForbes28:)Mar 04 01:56
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_LinuxMar 04 01:56
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 01:56
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GoForbes28Daem, do you have the link to the proxies blocklist?Mar 04 01:56
GoForbes28http://list.iblocklist.com/lists/bluetack/proxy ?Mar 04 01:58
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DaemonFCit's in nipfilterMar 04 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Had fun meeting up with @hober and Erin today!Mar 04 01:59
GoForbes28You have a link to nipfilter?Mar 04 02:00
DaemonFChttp://blocklistpro.com/download-center/ip-filters/Mar 04 02:03
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DaemonFCmake sure to update it about once a monthMar 04 02:04
DaemonFCseems to be how often they post updatesMar 04 02:04
GoForbes28PeerBlock autoupdates, so no problemMar 04 02:04
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=605001Mar 04 02:06
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DaemonFCthis bug has been open so long it's ridiculousMar 04 02:07
DaemonFCChatzilla has been broken since OctoberMar 04 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rozzin As I understand it, this may be the best explanation, ever, of what it's like to have been a #childhood #rape victim: http:// ...Mar 04 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #xfce got a new look xfce.org nice and clean, but like #debian's new look, not very inspiringMar 04 02:09
GoForbes28Is http://list.iblocklist.com/lists/bluetack/proxy included in the bipfilter?Mar 04 02:11
GoForbes28*nipMar 04 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #xfce is one of those "steady subtle progress" projects where a lot is hidden in very non-obvious but very welcome waysMar 04 02:12
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twitterHere is a great talk from the guy who used to be in charge of Indiana's gnu/linux program called inAccessMar 04 02:16
twitterhttp://vimeo.com/2249750Mar 04 02:16
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twitterI'm trying to find out what happened there, but he seems to have left in 2009 and is now at a consulting company.Mar 04 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.32.31-libre2 is now outMar 04 02:17
twitter-> "                 Mike Huffman has worked in the Indiana Department of Education for over 30 years and has spent over 26 years involved in technology. He served as IT director for nine years, moving the Department's data systems from COBOL to relational data base and web-based applications. Moving on to instructional technology Mike has worked with teachers, administrators and students throughout Indiana to devise ways that technology Mar 04 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Scientific Linux 6.0 Released As RHEL6 Rebuild: While CentOS 6.0 has yet to be released, the university research... http://bit.ly/hMBVz6Mar 04 02:19
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twitterOne of the things he says in the video is that Microsoft made lost of "special deals" but he rejected anything that was not offered for the entire state and last 10 years.Mar 04 02:20
DaemonFCtwitter: Debian started out in IndianaMar 04 02:20
DaemonFCso did the unix clone XINUMar 04 02:20
DaemonFC:PMar 04 02:20
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twitterHuffman has lots of interesting insight.Mar 04 02:21
twitterHe points out that free software is often best of class.Mar 04 02:22
twitterHe basically thinks that free software was the only practical way to go due to sustainability and costs.Mar 04 02:22
GoForbes28XENU?Mar 04 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Now 50 publishers releasing Cablegate material http://alturl.com/q6rrx !wlMar 04 02:24
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GoForbes28LLPMar 04 02:24
GoForbes28:PMar 04 02:24
twitterTom Cruize will smite you for thatMar 04 02:24
twitterI saw him do it to Opera. Mar 04 02:25
DaemonFCXINU hasn't been actively maintained in yearsMar 04 02:25
GoForbes28Opera the web browser?Mar 04 02:26
DaemonFC"Xinu79 now runs in a WINDOWS3.11, 95 or OS/2 DOS Box."Mar 04 02:27
DaemonFCgives you an idea of how current it isMar 04 02:27
twitter3, 10, 100, 150, 200 High schools worked in his project.  He told them to push it down to lower grades.Mar 04 02:28
twitterBrutal.orgMar 04 02:28
twittercandy for teacherMar 04 02:28
DaemonFCsounds like pornMar 04 02:28
twitterit's goneMar 04 02:29
twitterwas part of the Indian program, something that was driving itMar 04 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] okay, I've spent the day wrestling my facebook "page" for Inconstant Moon... or that's how it began, why is facebook so awful to use?Mar 04 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Everyone always disses facebook folk as tech-inepts, but after trying to make a #fb page I have enormous appreciation. wow.Mar 04 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Now 50 publishers releasing Cablegate material http://alturl.com/q6rrx !wlMar 04 02:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bananabob A bit of !humor http://is.gd/Xko7G3Mar 04 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @telecomix Piracy is not theft, says Minecraft creator http://bit.ly/i9kKc1 #piracyMar 04 02:36
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twitterheh, the great skill and patience requited to jump through Facebook hoops.  The place sucks because it's owners think users are "dumb fucks" to be exploited.Mar 04 02:36
GoForbes28"piracy" is not piracy eitherMar 04 02:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Reports from Today's SCO Bankruptcy Hearing - Updated 5Xs - http://bit.ly/hOp956Mar 04 02:37
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twitterImagine their skill was directed to something useful, like running their own servers.  So often the "easy way" is life suckingly, while the "hard way" is tremendously productive.  Free software is a good example of this.Mar 04 02:38
twitter"Easy" non free software has consumed entire careers, but nothing is gained by anyone but the owner.Mar 04 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 'Clinton admits WikiLeaks will dominate the rest of her life' http://is.gd/Kv2Suh !wlMar 04 02:39
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twittershe wants to be dominated?  how?Mar 04 02:39
oiaohmhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/03/google-and-microsoft-team-up-to-battle-geotagging-patent-troll.arsMar 04 02:40
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twitterars spinikaMar 04 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Impoundment Issues and an Agreement on "Narrowed" Subpoenas in SCEA v. Hotz - Updated - http://bit.ly/hE5z8xMar 04 02:41
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GoForbes28Twitter: You know how. ;)Mar 04 02:41
twitter-> broke off from discussions about the effectiveness of sanctions on Iran and al-Qa'ida activity in the Arabian Peninsula to tell aides she needed a tour jacket, like those worn by rock band roadies, with a "big picture of the world and would say 'The Apology Tour' on itMar 04 02:43
twitterSadly, she's apologizing to the wrong people.  It is the people of the region rather than their leaders who should be offended by the things said and done.Mar 04 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CharlieAngusMP: #c32 radio owners cry poor at paying copyright to "foreign multinationals." Simple solution: play more canuck bands.Mar 04 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @wikileaks2 Clinton admits WikiLeaks will dominate the rest of her life' http://is.gd/Kv2Suh !wl < Would you 'friend' her on fb? Not me...Mar 04 02:44
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twitterWhen she says, " I think I will be answering concerns about WikiLeaks for the rest of my life, not just the rest of my tenure as Secretary of State." She's talking about how to magically take them back.Mar 04 02:45
oiaohmtwitter:  Clinton problem is a lot of no more secrets.Mar 04 02:45
twitterIt's too bad she's not taking actual corrective action to a lot of bad policy decisions and dictator imposition.  Mar 04 02:45
oiaohmReally lot of the reasons for diomat chatter to be secret is crap.Mar 04 02:45
oiaohmThey are ment to be public servents and ment to be serving the public interest.Mar 04 02:46
twitteryou misspelled "conspiracy" as "chatter"Mar 04 02:46
oiaohmNo I did not. twitterMar 04 02:46
twitterthese so called diplomats conspired with each other to screw people in other countries.  Mar 04 02:47
oiaohmAs what is part of the diplomats job.Mar 04 02:47
oiaohmTo get the best deal for the country they are serving.Mar 04 02:47
twitterthey had no regard at all for "democracy" only for implementing US policy.Mar 04 02:47
oiaohmYepMar 04 02:47
oiaohmDo you believe polititions are truthful either.Mar 04 02:47
oiaohmAnd that there goals are for the better good.Mar 04 02:48
twitterYou would think that Saudi diplomats, for example, would work to get the best deal for their people but they don't look that way in the cables. Mar 04 02:48
twitterI try to take people at their word.Mar 04 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 Released: While Red Hat / RPM distribution fans can be celebrating the release of Scientifi... http://bit.ly/gbfN8qMar 04 02:49
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oiaohmtwitter: all deals are complex.Mar 04 02:49
twitterlies generally areMar 04 02:50
twitterthat's why it is easier and better to be honestMar 04 02:50
oiaohmEven if they were open and honest about what they are doing.Mar 04 02:50
oiaohmYou still could have the item that they did X a good deal so they will still provide mil assistance or equal.Mar 04 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @MarleeMatlin If @charliesheen were smart he'd turn himself into a brand & make #tigerblood an energy drink like #redbull or #krunk >notMar 04 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @CharlieAngusMP: #c32 radio owners cry poor at paying copyright to "foreign multinationals." << !copyright needs to be re-thunkMar 04 02:51
twitterobviously, if these leaders were open and honest about what they do, their people would rise up and hang them.Mar 04 02:51
oiaohmMaybe.Mar 04 02:51
oiaohmYou can still be a asshole and be fully open and honestMar 04 02:51
twitterand you can end up like the tyrants in Libya, Algeria and Egypt.  The list probably won't end with those three. Mar 04 02:52
oiaohmLot of cases a tyrant does not have to lie.Mar 04 02:52
oiaohmHe just kills who ever disagrees with him.Mar 04 02:53
oiaohmSo problem solved.Mar 04 02:53
twitterhoc semper ...Mar 04 02:53
twitterthat's a western notion but it seems to be working elsewhere these daysMar 04 02:54
oiaohmAll those areas have been hot spots for conflict.Mar 04 02:55
twitterActually, all of them have been relatively quiet for the last 40 years.Mar 04 02:55
oiaohmwhat is about right.Mar 04 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @carolaik It's official: Stephen Harper rules - The Harper Government http://ur1.ca/3du7t #cdnpoli #dictatorship < #election?Mar 04 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @IAM_SHAKESPEARE THE_REAL_WILLIAM "OTHELLO. I do believe it, and I ask your pardon."Mar 04 02:56
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oiaohmLook at most democracys they started from a dictactor rulling the area for a while.  TechrightsBot-trMar 04 02:56
oiaohmopps twitterMar 04 02:56
oiaohmOf course the dictators gets over thrown at some point.Mar 04 02:56
oiaohmWhat normally equals blood shed.Mar 04 02:56
twitterpeople have to free themselves, there are always those who would make themselves their neighbor's masterMar 04 02:57
oiaohmThere is a issue.Mar 04 02:58
oiaohmLot of those areas had small tribes fighting with each other.Mar 04 02:58
twitterthe issue at hand is Clinton's wrong headed blitherMar 04 02:58
oiaohmBefore 40 years ago.Mar 04 02:58
twittershe took the people in these regions for granted and still doesMar 04 02:58
oiaohmThe dictatorships have done some good.Mar 04 02:58
oiaohmThe people now seen themselves as a common group.Mar 04 02:59
twitterI wonder what kind of "progress" she thinks she's made on the "wikileaks issue"Mar 04 02:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @WLLegal NYT's @charlie_savage reports Manning held naked in cell; gets comment frm Marine spokesman http://ur1.ca/3du8w #freeBradley !wlMar 04 02:59
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twitterany "progress" is basically making the US less free.Mar 04 02:59
oiaohmtwitter: maybe getting the wikileaks leader almost to a country the usa can get there hands on him.Mar 04 03:00
twitterthey can shoot him, it won't take back the truth.Mar 04 03:00
twitternor will it stop wikileaks, Julian is just a faceMar 04 03:00
twitterother "progress" includes telling military servicemen to never look at the leaked docs and to police their own family or go to jail.  Mar 04 03:01
twittercensorship is progress in the new USAMar 04 03:02
oiaohmWonder how long before terror sources use the do not look at leaked docs.Mar 04 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Now 50 publishers releasing Cablegate material http://wikileaks.ch/Media-Currently-Publishing.html http://bit.ly/guN99OMar 04 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: 'Clinton admits WikiLeaks will dominate the rest of her life' http://is.gd/Kv2Suh http://bit.ly/fsTO44Mar 04 03:02
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twitteror perhaps Clinton is taking her own constituency for granted.Mar 04 03:02
oiaohmNice way to protect coms.   twitterMar 04 03:02
oiaohmIe messages controlling terror group extracted from USA cables.Mar 04 03:03
twitterThe US is quite a terrorist.Mar 04 03:03
oiaohmSo now the USA personal cannot look at it.Mar 04 03:03
oiaohmYes that is how stupid the rule she passed is.Mar 04 03:03
twitteroh well, gotta go.Mar 04 03:04
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oiaohmThe issue is if wikileaks could get there hands on the information who else had it first.Mar 04 03:04
DaemonFChttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha3/KubuntuMar 04 03:05
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DaemonFCschestowitz will love thisMar 04 03:05
DaemonFCKubuntu is encouraging people to use Samba for their home networkingMar 04 03:05
oiaohmNFS sharing has been in KDE for a while.  DaemonFCMar 04 03:10
oiaohmSamba is one of the newer features.Mar 04 03:10
DaemonFCI guess Samba is safe to use even considering where it came fromMar 04 03:11
oiaohmAlso you are aware Samba is implementing a IBM protocal.Mar 04 03:11
DaemonFC?Mar 04 03:11
DaemonFCMicrosoft I thoughtMar 04 03:11
oiaohmWindows File Sharing is really Small Machine Business protocal that is IBM's.Mar 04 03:11
DaemonFCthat's why nobody kicks up a fuss over Samba thenMar 04 03:12
*DaemonFC had kind of wondredMar 04 03:12
DaemonFC*wonderedMar 04 03:12
oiaohmReason why MS lost in the EU over there alterations so badly because the protocals were not theirs.Mar 04 03:12
oiaohmand Samba is the offical body to run join compares of implementions.Mar 04 03:13
oiaohmIe the protocal is more Samba's than MS.Mar 04 03:13
oiaohmSamba has IBM blessing.Mar 04 03:13
oiaohmyes its one of those classic hotfoots where MS has taken a invention that was not theirs.  DaemonFCMar 04 03:14
oiaohmAlso since the EU case lot of people have not noticed but Vista and Windows 7 support printing to cups.Mar 04 03:15
DaemonFCoiaohm: Is there anyone building new KDE releases for Enterprise Linux?Mar 04 03:16
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oiaohmRedhat.  DaemonFCMar 04 03:18
oiaohmBut Redhat build for like 6 different wm for Enterpise.Mar 04 03:18
DaemonFCkind of want to try it out and not get stuck on some crusty old KDE 4.4 or something foreverMar 04 03:19
oiaohmEnterprise is normally 12 to 18 months behind.Mar 04 03:20
oiaohmSo KDE 4.4 would kinda be current.Mar 04 03:20
oiaohmYes I know that suxs.  DaemonFCMar 04 03:21
DaemonFCIf I had to get stuck on something old I'd rather it be GNOME I guessMar 04 03:21
DaemonFCit doesn't improve much anyway :)Mar 04 03:21
oiaohmReally the KDE 4.7 feature plan is being a lot slower than normal to fill.Mar 04 03:23
oiaohmMaybe 4.6 will be the major level off place.Mar 04 03:23
DaemonFCI'm kind of shocked that 4.6.1 hasn't been announced Mar 04 03:24
DaemonFCand I've been running it since yesterdayMar 04 03:24
oiaohmLot of people did not listern to me with 4.x when I said it would flattern out most likely at 4.5Mar 04 03:25
oiaohmOk I was a little out.Mar 04 03:25
oiaohmBut it looks like I was still close.Mar 04 03:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: 4.6 compared to 3.5 how is it.Mar 04 03:27
DaemonFCeverything that I cared about in 3.5 is here and stableMar 04 03:30
DaemonFCdon't go for 4.6.0, go to 4.6.1Mar 04 03:31
DaemonFC4.6 had a couple minor bugsMar 04 03:31
DaemonFCannoyancesMar 04 03:31
DaemonFC.1 seems to fix everything that stood out to meMar 04 03:31
GoForbes28does Fedora have XFCE 4.8 now?Mar 04 03:35
Diablo-D3if it doesnt, it will soonMar 04 03:35
DaemonFC14 has it in a repoMar 04 03:35
Diablo-D3and its starting to roll into deb expMar 04 03:35
DaemonFC15 has itMar 04 03:35
Diablo-D3<3 xfceMar 04 03:35
DaemonFCmehMar 04 03:36
DaemonFCminimalism, ewwwMar 04 03:37
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 03:37
GoForbes28Better than "let's remove all features" GNOMEMar 04 03:44
GoForbes28And KDE is just too heavy for my tastesMar 04 03:45
GoForbes28Plus, isn't 4.8 overcoming some of the limitations of the minimalist design?Mar 04 03:45
Diablo-D3you know whats sad?Mar 04 03:50
Diablo-D3xfce has more features than gnomeMar 04 03:51
Diablo-D3but is like half the size, and boots in ... well basically no timeMar 04 03:51
Diablo-D3I was going to say "1/nth of the time", but we're dividing by zero ehreMar 04 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : Niku and Megan say their pieces http://bit.ly/endvSd #Chevenga #weblit #reading #scifi #sffMar 04 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The eBook User’s Bill of Rights (Librarian in Black): http://bit.ly/hX6zkQMar 04 04:04
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GoForbes28What's really sad is that LXDE is overshadowing XFCE for no reasonMar 04 04:05
GoForbes28Other than people's perceptions of "lite"Mar 04 04:06
GoForbes28LXDE is from the XFCE codebase, with the exception of OpenBOX, which was a complete seperate project anywaysMar 04 04:06
GoForbes28Stick OpenBOX in XFCE, and you get the same performanceMar 04 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The rise of the picosecond (eFinancial News): http://bit.ly/eIWvebMar 04 04:16
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Diablo-D3GoForbes28: erm, except no one uses lxdeMar 04 04:21
Diablo-D3I think its just lxde user masturbation fantansies being posted to the intertubesMar 04 04:21
Diablo-D3anyhow, going to bedMar 04 04:22
Diablo-D3night allMar 04 04:22
GoForbes28nightMar 04 04:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Chain of Fools : #Upgrading through every version of #Windows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14Mar 04 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] #Windows stuff can be fun sometimes for many Desktop #Linux users! Thanks @gbraad for the upgrading DOS to Win 7 video. http://ur1.ca/3djvmMar 04 05:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Been spending some time with my nephews recently. Hadn't heard this in a long time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0KOfTV1dbcMar 04 05:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good morning! I have a week of vacation (starts today). Researching this ugly piece of work http://ur1.ca/3dv24 Thanks [H]omer ;-)Mar 04 05:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Excuse me - It's a joke, right? 1 million Twitter peeps decided to 'follow' Charlie Sheen? Seriously?Mar 04 05:51
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ondrock/status/43458817639464961 http://twitter.com/cbflan/statuses/43462840413192192Mar 04 05:54
TechrightsBot-tr@ondrock: Bill Gates calls public pensions 'unsustainable'  http://read.bi/fyGfkX  #tcot #p2 #wiunionMar 04 05:54
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TechrightsBot-tr@cbflan: @ondrock and your point? He's another one who should pay his own taxes first. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_TaxMar 04 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Anyone else noticed or thought about: How when links are given by people in general they don't tend to have http://www. any more ?Mar 04 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb some links still have the www... most are changing... on purpose... too many w's.Mar 04 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Anyone else noticed or thought about: How when links are given out by people in general they don't tend to have http://www. any more?Mar 04 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night jargon and the rest of the !identicats ... time for me to get some sleep.... zzzzMar 04 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] !mustard fails to display status.net timelines via long press. Identi.ca and Twitter are fine. "Sorry user $ does not exist here" the errorMar 04 06:12
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/03/03/big-it-budgets/Mar 04 06:15
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GoForbes28hi royMar 04 06:20
GoForbes28I forgot to mention something interesting that happened on MondayMar 04 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Republicans Offer Lame Brain Reasons Why Americans Shouldn’t Have Safe Roads http://ur1.ca/3dv7y v @qu1j0t3Mar 04 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #ICC decides to probe Gadhafi & family? Was it hibernating through the past 8 years? #Bush #IraqMar 04 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ggreenwald: 4 those who insisted that "Manning-forced-to-be-nude" story must be untrue: brig officials confirm it http://is.gd/Scv3fZMar 04 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A 13 Line Patch That Boosts Intel Sandy Bridge Performance: After some initial Linux troubles, last month we fin... http://bit.ly/fKHU7pMar 04 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @glynmoody: Ban the Microsoft "virus", government told - http://bit.ly/h5CR6M more hopeful noises from bits of UK governmentMar 04 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Based on statements, WikiLeaks, a publisher, is 'the enemy'. Sets a very dangerous precedent for all media. !wlMar 04 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fermilab releases a new version of Scientific #Linux http://ur1.ca/3dvg5 #gnu #scienceMar 04 07:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Surprised? Survey Suggests #SCOracle Bad for Open Source http://ur1.ca/3dvgd http://ur1.ca/3dvge #freesoftware #obtacleMar 04 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/3dvgr "This "flame war" was actually very boring..." #novell #banshee #screamer #monoMar 04 07:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 Is Out [Screenshots And Video] http://ur1.ca/3dvh6 http://ur1.ca/3dvhd http://ur1.ca/3dvhk http://ur1.ca/3dvhmMar 04 07:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Keep him busy... ill go and burn the body...." LOL. #yogscastMar 04 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Linux Mint 11 Will Use GNOME 3.0 By Default http://bit.ly/gyJyWBMar 04 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #CentOS Delivered by #rPath http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/CentOS_Delivered_by_rPathMar 04 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Downloading #Kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 http://ur1.ca/3dvlmMar 04 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse :)Mar 04 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [p]review: #Fedora 15 + #GNOME 3.0, a skippable release http://ur1.ca/3dvmmMar 04 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spotlight on Linux: #Debian #GNU #Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" http://ur1.ca/3dvmm "Rock solid stability, timely updates, & easy package management"Mar 04 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People behind Debian: Christian Perrier, translation coordinator http://ur1.ca/3dnuo #debian #profileMar 04 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @sebas: Insular appstores should be replaced by a peer to peer web of trust of creators and consumers.Mar 04 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] creating some #python scripts with #Qt dialogsMar 04 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [CORRECTED URL] [p]review: #Fedora 15 + #GNOME 3.0, a skippable release http://ur1.ca/3do9qMar 04 07:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PC-BSD 8.2 review http://ur1.ca/3dvr5 #bsd #pcbsdMar 04 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen Released the binaries and source to our simple game that we created on Wednesday with my son http://bit.ly/doodledrive #QMLMar 04 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @vgrade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiSrsBXpXvk=channel_video_title meego on pandaboard,Mar 04 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #Kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 runs like a charm on my laptop. Down to the store to buy a set of CD Recordables to install it on Desktop rig...Mar 04 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT@ !wikileaks : Stripping #Manning naked to compel him to testify against #Assange is similar to abuses at Abu Ghraib & #GuantanamoMar 04 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] [Commercial] Looking for trainers for single day training in summer at very good one package at Delhi http://tinyurl.com/6d2ymbt #blogMar 04 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google’s Blogger banned in #Turkey over broadcast piracy - http://bit.ly/fT834r vision of our future if #copyright maximalists get their wayMar 04 08:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Narendra Sisodiya: [Commercial] Looking for trainers for single day training in summer at very good one package at Delhi .::. Size~: 119.64 KBMar 04 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Justice Department reportedly investigating MPEG LA over #VP8 threats - http://bit.ly/hTFOiJ interesting development #swpats #bullyingMar 04 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MSBBC finally names a platform when writing about "viruses" http://ur1.ca/3dvto Too bad it's not a virus even,it doesn't spread #propagandaMar 04 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When #MSBBC writes about Microsoft Windows viruses (that are *really* viruses) it just calls them "computer viruses"Mar 04 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The New #Ushahidi #Community Website Is Live! - http://bit.ly/hkx89q surprising they've not had it before, given their focus on communitiesMar 04 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #BSA’s New Candlemakers - http://bit.ly/gPgpA1 rather a nice parallel being drawn with earlier stupidities #openstandardsMar 04 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Excellent cite by Rob Weir http://ur1.ca/3dvvk on stupidity of unnecessary proprietization of commons (via @glynmoody)Mar 04 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Peter Hutterer: How to DOS a developer http://bit.ly/fRNPya #whot "[..]FOSS project is moving too fast? Easy, just DOS the developers. [..]"Mar 04 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody The #BSA’s New Candlemakers - http://bit.ly/gPgpA1 rather a nice parallel being drawn with earlier stupidities #openstandardsMar 04 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @sandersch: Jorge Lorenzo’s Team Manager Zeelenberg: “Harder competition is better for us” http://is.gd/plVdFO < for us too, e/where ;-)Mar 04 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Where's the secret link? "Code of Practice to ensure secure internet infrastructure" being put out by IDA for ISPs? http://ur1.ca/3dvxo #fbMar 04 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody The #BSA’s New Candlemakers - http://bit.ly/gPgpA1 rather a nice parallel being drawn with earlier stupidities #openstandardsMar 04 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @carlopiana Excellent cite by Rob Weir http://ur1.ca/3dvvk on stupidity of unnecessary proprietization of commons (via @glynmoody)Mar 04 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Nice to see the sun and blue sky after yesterday's snow. :-) Now #coffeetime!Mar 04 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Putting #China on the Innovation Map - http://bit.ly/hOMHWl amazing Chinese site, and a straw in the wind #innovationMar 04 08:42
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJWQC9AFAr0Mar 04 08:43
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schestowitzRPG for kids... only in AmericaMar 04 08:46
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluH6ERGasA&feature=relatedMar 04 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Having coffee on my Ducati cup? Priceless! (So you see on which side my heart beats) http://ur1.ca/3dw08Mar 04 08:47
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schestowitzThey teach kids to play with firearms.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o9A-KyneI0&NR=1&feature=fvwpMar 04 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 4/3/2011: Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3, Firefox 4 Days Away http://ur1.ca/3dw1d !techrightsMar 04 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 4/3/2011: Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3, Firefox 4 Days Away http://ur1.ca/3dw1d #techrightsMar 04 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Jay! I'm installing #Kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 on my desktop ATM. Supports my USB wifi adapter out of the box, as expected. Very Happy :-)Mar 04 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's Friday! \o/ http://goo.gl/MAqK5Mar 04 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal Alpha 3 Review, Screenshots, Download Links http://goo.gl/R6uZQMar 04 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Dilbert at the Consumer Electronics Show http://goo.gl/kIEw9Mar 04 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jonathan Jesse: Call for Help: Tips and Tricks in the !Kubuntu Chapter for The Official Ubuntu Book http://goo.gl/raWpcMar 04 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Delhi NCR GeekMeetup - 4th edition at Jamia http://tinyurl.com/4u35gtt #blogMar 04 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] No additional trains, now strike. This was the last year I planned #CeBIT around train commuting, I gather. #DB #failMar 04 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus. The architectural plan for my palace is totally screwed up. Gonna redo half of this shit now.... :/ !lo #minecraftMar 04 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Phew the #kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 installation is in progress, albeit extremely slow. This requires some work IMO. Don't forget it's a ALPHA!Mar 04 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: What scientists really think about animal research http://goo.gl/7DzoZMar 04 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WebGL finalized, brings hardware-accelerated 3D to the browser - http://bit.ly/hwFp1O royalty free, but anyone know patent situation here?Mar 04 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Recent Changes to Twitter's Terms of Service Might Hurt Academic Research - http://rww.to/gPHLgB #twitter starts to get evilMar 04 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for !N900 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/DeveloperEditionMar 04 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Recent Changes to Twitter's Terms of Service Might Hurt Academic Research .::. Size~: 54.38 KBMar 04 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward attending the SCS Gala Dinner and IT Leader Awards event at the Shangri-la at 7pm. #fbMar 04 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Courtney Love to Pay $430,000 to Settle #Twitter #Defamation Case - http://bit.ly/ihrEqP expensive tweetsMar 04 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moby Says The Major Record Labels 'Should Die' - http://bit.ly/g3AXT7 go on, tell us what you really think #recordingindustryMar 04 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Courtney Love to Pay $430,000 to Settle Twitter Defamation Case (Exclusive) - THR, Esq. .::. Size~: 54.34 KBMar 04 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Building a palace in the place of the blast site. !lo #minecraft http://ur1.ca/3dwhjMar 04 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] Bradley Manning stripped and left naked in his cell for seven hours on Wednesday. #landOfTheFree http://is.gd/UOVFTk !wikileaksMar 04 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] João Pinto: First day with !Fedora 14 http://goo.gl/wlViT João Pinto switched from !Ubuntu 10.10 to Fedora 14Mar 04 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Gov #OSS plan hindered by lack of security clearance - http://bit.ly/gGlsZh shameful bias (v @opensourcerer @alanbelltolc @Mark_Antony)Mar 04 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Stefano Candori (Gnome Activity Journal developer) landed on Planet !GNOME http://goo.gl/8Q8ZbMar 04 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Possiplex - http://bit.ly/hOezk1 Ted #Nelson's latest book: doubtless hugely fascinating, probably somewhat unreadable...Mar 04 10:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] We're going to interview Richard Stallman -- let us know what questions we should ask him! http://tinyurl.com/5thck7qMar 04 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] First developer release of Web Apps Project http://mzl.la/gCeGpXMar 04 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] upgrading !debian 5.0 -> 6.0 on a production server. fingers crossed! ;)Mar 04 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sitting down with Thomas to work on #ProjectPirate for the weekend.Mar 04 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] As of 9am my net is back up. How about recording sat morning? I can't do today I'm at work. @thistleweb @schestowitzMar 04 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Life without full net access for a week has shown me how isolated you are. Tethering not an option due to me changing my plan.Mar 04 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: can we stop defining ourselves by invisible sky friends and land that happened to be under us when we fell out of our mothers?Mar 04 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Love it, NDA prevents !mvp from talking about new !microsoft tech seen at the summit. Maybe because there is nothing new?Mar 04 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I hate !Nokia so much, believe it or not there are no e book reader there acutely works with the touch screen on a !N97 BEEEPPPPMar 04 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @cdaffara We are working on a #Firefox-based #chromeos alternative, with a central CMDB for companywide management. Any requirements?Mar 04 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And while I'm at it, are the travel costs for the !mvp swallowed by !microsoft? Another perk? How about full disclosure?Mar 04 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh !lo 60's pirate radio stylee? show recorded live from a ship in international waters; staff uniform is stuffed parrots & eyepatchesMar 04 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks spokesman wins Journalist of the Year in Iceland | AFP http://is.gd/ScxX7E !wlMar 04 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks calls more charges against soldier a "vindictive attack" http://is.gd/eGgSeo !wlMar 04 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Armenian revolution of reform : March 1, 2011 - http://on.fb.me/gbRbJB wow, exciting: spreading here, too... (v @hpNYR) #armenia #revolutionMar 04 11:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] @ghostler I don't know if Mark and Keith are on identi.ca. Yet I know for sure that the majority of http://techrights.org is ;-)Mar 04 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Harry cancelled his sporting appearance in the #MiddleEast? Nowt to do with established blood rule status quo not being that popular there?Mar 04 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Unlikeliest true sentence, ever. "I"m just going to show you a kidney we printed earlier." http://ping.fm/w722dMar 04 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a bit on the extreme side, but shit happens when the rich and powerful think they can fuck with the very poor http://tighturl.com/2zhaMar 04 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @dickturpin Oh God "Update available for Angry Birds" must resist playing must resist! !androidMar 04 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wouldn't "liberal arts" mean "feel free to explore all aspects of life" which includes porn? http://tighturl.com/2zhb #Apple #PRMar 04 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I don't really understand how I would use a tool like Scriverner, but it looks good http://ping.fm/OE1crMar 04 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach: !Ubuntu Developer Week: Day 4 over, last day to come http://goo.gl/bRPrPMar 04 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux Format was on sale locally on Wednesday, @tuxradar http://ping.fm/sL4ESMar 04 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More fun with Anti-Open Source FUD - http://bit.ly/dJxCqu amazingly, Not Dead Yet #fud #opensource #cartelsMar 04 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Universities need to lift the lid on donations - http://bit.ly/h5vy9V excellent point: not just governments need to be transparentMar 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I think this is my best website design yet.Mar 04 11:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh I just got a vision of you in leggings dancing to 80's Madonna videos to get the brain woken up ;PMar 04 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Alphonsus addressing his wife in welcome speech - she's an MP. #fbMar 04 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT@ #WikiLeaks spokesman wins Journalist of the Year in #Iceland | AFP http://is.gd/ScxX7E !wikileaks #wikileaksMar 04 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice that shangrila hotel has free wifi #scs #fbMar 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Www.scs.org.sg ancient for new generation. Too 1990ish. #scs #fbMar 04 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu users who won't apply security patches are at risk, moans ZDnet http://ping.fm/OYP7gMar 04 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Video to thank volunteers etc #scs #fbMar 04 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Minister addressing. Starts with joke. Hmmm. #scs #fbMar 04 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Joke about IT and lawyers, heaven and hell. #scs #fbMar 04 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Minister quotes Astons as food outlet using IT #scs #fbMar 04 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks spokesman wins Journalist of the Year in Iceland | AFP http://is.gd/ScxX7E http://bit.ly/gsBpYlMar 04 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks calls more charges against soldier a "vindictive attack" http://is.gd/eGgSeo http://bit.ly/e7PASWMar 04 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @gnome: Check out the updated screenshots on http://www.gnome3.org/. Wow, #gnome3 is looking hot!Mar 04 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Oh no. New acronym. MDEV 2.0 - 4 yr manpower develmnt. Hmm. Any open source skills? #scs #fbMar 04 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Best way to skill up people is to actually do a FOSS project not proprietary stuff, Mr Minister!#scs #fbMar 04 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Fix Pink / Red YouTube Videos Bug Using Flash 10.2 In !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/cbk7MMar 04 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♻ @kletskous: On my blog, the distinction between Linux, Windows and Mac - http://ur1.ca/3dx6n #funny #cartoonMar 04 12:41
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66072593Mar 04 12:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 12:47:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @openbytes it has to be after 6pm Sat or Sun !tbMar 04 12:50
oiaohm_http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/02/ghostmarket-web-scam-teenagers  Nice to see people like this caught up with.Mar 04 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Dinner finally! #scs #fbMar 04 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] enjoying the last day of my "settling in" week by doing ~nothing. first time in a while i've had the luxury. tonight: cooking for friends!Mar 04 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright gone mad! - http://bit.ly/gUMaT5 excellent, well-researched piece on problem of "professional descendants"Mar 04 13:07
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schestowitzoiaohm_: yeah...Mar 04 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-04: Android Gingerbread update broke Google Voice on the Nexus One So this is Google's update... http://wmk.me/f6mGPkMar 04 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Microsoft Death Watch – Tablet Wars - http://bit.ly/hI5ZkB #microsoftMar 04 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i am, however, wondering why my n900 is getting 4-5x as much battery life here compared to in Vancouver. it's seriously odd.Mar 04 13:12
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DaemonFCthe sensationalism of Phoronix never stops amusing meMar 04 13:15
DaemonFC"The 13 line patch that does this amazing new thing"Mar 04 13:15
DaemonFCforget the dozens/hundreds of patches that put the framework in placeMar 04 13:15
DaemonFClets call it the 13 line patchMar 04 13:15
DaemonFCbecause that flipped the feature onMar 04 13:15
DaemonFCApple only offers binaries of GCC 4.2.1 for OS X 10.7?Mar 04 13:17
DaemonFCniceMar 04 13:17
DaemonFConly 3 (nearly 4) major versions behindMar 04 13:17
DaemonFCand it's not even the recommended compiler, Phoronix should have used Clang since it is what Apple recommendsMar 04 13:18
DaemonFCthe binaries would have been even less optimized than with GCC 4.2Mar 04 13:18
DaemonFCthat's if you got them to compile at allMar 04 13:18
DaemonFCGCC 4.6 is starting to hit those snags now that it's fairly strict, but it is really fast and the resulting binaries perform wellMar 04 13:19
*DaemonFC had to really watch what kernel modules he compiled with itMar 04 13:19
DaemonFC"A few disk tests are also indicating some modest performance improvements for the Journaled HFS+ file-system"Mar 04 13:21
DaemonFCstill pathetic, I call it Horrible File SystemMar 04 13:21
DaemonFCso 10.7 still loses to Linux, not only loses to Linux, in some ways it even still loses to Linux if you build Linux with an old GCC and use ext2Mar 04 13:22
DaemonFCand, what a blood curdling surprise, there's still an OS X Server :)Mar 04 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Sand art. #scs #fbMar 04 13:22
MinceR:>Mar 04 13:23
DaemonFCMinceR: Why does Apple sell 4 x quad core configurations? is that how you get OS X to do multitasking?Mar 04 13:23
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 13:23
MinceRi thought i've heard from a crApple fanboy that crApple is giving up on OSuX serverMar 04 13:24
MinceRDaemonFC: perhaps you need 3 cores to run the DRM bloatMar 04 13:24
DaemonFCMinceR: I tried OS X out on a few PCs Mar 04 13:24
MinceRi tried it onceMar 04 13:24
gnufreexGCC 4.6 rocks, I tried it yesterday. Still few bugs, but it is promising.Mar 04 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La Nacion in Costa Rica: EE. UU.: Gobierno de Arias supo cómo votaría Sala IV sobre TLC | http://is.gd/kdSIuQ !wlMar 04 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @arnebab “Exporting Tweets now violates the TOS” → rww.to/gPHLgB — I’m thinking of stopping my http://identi.ca/arnebab to #twitter b ...Mar 04 13:24
DaemonFCit doesn't start responding quickly until you have a quad coreMar 04 13:24
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gnufreexWhat Mac OS 10 7 ships?Mar 04 13:24
DaemonFCit will put you to sleep on a single core systemMar 04 13:24
gnufreex4. 2. 1Mar 04 13:24
gnufreex?Mar 04 13:24
MinceRDaemonFC: not too surprising considering what they did to Mach and FreeBSD to get itMar 04 13:24
MinceRwhat, even OSuX is "7" now? :>Mar 04 13:25
DaemonFCBasically their implementation of SMP is scarier than the initial Big Kernel Lock on LinuxMar 04 13:25
DaemonFCbecause they have all the disadvantages of that, and most kernel services are not running in supervisor modeMar 04 13:25
MinceRi thought they were running the one kernel service in supervisor mode...Mar 04 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Fix Pink / Red YouTube Videos Bug Using Flash 10.2 In Ubuntu http://bit.ly/dGcxlkMar 04 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fix Pink / Red YouTube Videos Bug Using Flash 10.2 In Ubuntu ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.17 KBMar 04 13:26
DaemonFCso if the kernel gets deadlocked and becomes unresponsive, that means it's not listening to most of its servicesMar 04 13:26
MinceRand even their "kernel extensions"Mar 04 13:26
DaemonFCthen you either freeze or get the Restart the Computer screenMar 04 13:26
MinceR(more crap that runs in kernel mode, on a supposed "microkernel" system)Mar 04 13:26
DaemonFCI don't get what the point of a microkernel with FreeBSD daemons running in userspace isMar 04 13:27
DaemonFCyour system dies but the kernel is still technically running = win?Mar 04 13:27
MinceRanother item on the brochure.Mar 04 13:27
MinceR(even though they're lying to get it)Mar 04 13:27
DaemonFCI think Linux made the right choices in most of the things it doesMar 04 13:28
DaemonFCeven if all the choices were bad, it made the right bad choice usuallyMar 04 13:28
DaemonFCMINIX is really really stable, it's the only microkernel system I've seen that actually does anything usefulMar 04 13:28
DaemonFCbut it's not suited for a desktop obviouslyMar 04 13:29
DaemonFCit's a noveltyMar 04 13:29
MinceRiirc minix is lacking in features thoughMar 04 13:29
MinceReven minix3Mar 04 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La Nacion: EE. UU.: País relegó derechos humanos por dinero de China | http://is.gd/BOXfxU !wlMar 04 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple and #Microsoft Bribery http://ur1.ca/3dxg4 the magic sauce of unethical software? Without freedom, ethics go down the drain, too.Mar 04 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Apple and !Microsoft Bribery http://ur1.ca/3dxg4 the magic sauce of unethical software? Without freedom, ethics go down the drain, too.Mar 04 13:29
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MinceReven if it's positioned as "not just a research OS anymore"Mar 04 13:29
DaemonFCMinceR: I've ran MINIX 3 on my laptopMar 04 13:29
DaemonFCwith X and EquinoxMar 04 13:29
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 13:29
DaemonFCyou can get some things working easily on itMar 04 13:30
DaemonFCDillo is doableMar 04 13:30
DaemonFCor lynxMar 04 13:30
MinceRwhat about firefox?Mar 04 13:30
DaemonFCArachneMar 04 13:30
DaemonFCdidn't try thatMar 04 13:30
DaemonFCI hear there's some Equinox packages floating around for Ubuntu somewhereMar 04 13:31
DaemonFCnever ran it on Linux but it's pretty low resourceMar 04 13:31
DaemonFCsuitable for old systemsMar 04 13:31
DaemonFCnot everything it does is FreeDesktop.org compliant, but it's better than it used to beMar 04 13:32
DaemonFCoiaohm mentioned that everything written with FLTK is ugly, but EDE isn'tMar 04 13:32
DaemonFCit's not bling bling like KDE, but it's not uglyMar 04 13:33
gnufreexDaemonFC: What useful can MINIX do?Mar 04 13:33
gnufreexIt is slowest microkernel I ever sawMar 04 13:33
DaemonFCembedded systems apparentlyMar 04 13:33
gnufreexAnd lacks lot of basic featuresMar 04 13:34
DaemonFCeducational/research stuffMar 04 13:34
gnufreexNo POSIXMar 04 13:34
gnufreexIt just subset of POSIXMar 04 13:34
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINIX_3Mar 04 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @themadhatter Oh, oh, if it was a good company, why is there so many people rooting for its death..?Mar 04 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La Nacion: EE.UU. tuvo a Jorge Vázquez bajo la lupa por informes de que almacenaba armas | http://is.gd/J3oAsh !wlMar 04 13:34
cubezzzthat death watch article is pretty poorMar 04 13:34
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gnufreexI tried it few months agoMar 04 13:34
gnufreexLast timeMar 04 13:34
cubezzzthey basically say microsoft had 100% market share of tabletsMar 04 13:34
gnufreexI tried it before lot of timesMar 04 13:34
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx3KuE7UjGAMar 04 13:34
oiaohm_DaemonFC:  gcc 4.6 still has about 100 bugs blocking it from release.Mar 04 13:34
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oiaohm_cubezzz: at one point in time MS did have 100% market share of tablets.Mar 04 13:35
gnufreexoiahom_: I think it is lessMar 04 13:35
DaemonFCMINIX is what Linus Torvalds built Linux onMar 04 13:35
DaemonFCthe original MINIXMar 04 13:35
gnufreexThat was 2 months agoMar 04 13:35
oiaohm_gnufreex: Note I said at one point in time.Mar 04 13:35
DaemonFCLinux used to require the MINIX File SystemMar 04 13:35
cubezzzoiaohm_, but how could it be 100%?Mar 04 13:35
cubezzzno one has 100% market shareMar 04 13:35
oiaohm_gnufreex: I am refering to in 1999Mar 04 13:35
DaemonFCno, it's not based on MINIX, no it doesn't have MINIX code in itMar 04 13:36
oiaohm_Year 1999 when the first tablets were shiped.   There was only one maker cubezzzMar 04 13:36
DaemonFCsome Microsoft-funded outfit was trying to claim Linux ripped off MINIX code at one pointMar 04 13:36
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gnufreexoiaohm_ I was talking about GCC 4.6 bugsMar 04 13:36
gnufreexIt had zero bugs in 1999Mar 04 13:36
gnufreex:-)Mar 04 13:36
oiaohm_gnufreex: sorry I got cubezz and you crossed.Mar 04 13:37
gnufreex:)Mar 04 13:37
MinceRdon't cross the streamsMar 04 13:37
oiaohm_gnufreex: gcc to release cannot have particular classes of the bugs.Mar 04 13:37
cubezzz:-PMar 04 13:37
DaemonFCtotal protonic reversal?Mar 04 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] IT youth leader award winner Vishnu Prem. #scs #fbMar 04 13:37
gnufreexoiaohm: I know, it is not ready yet.Mar 04 13:38
MinceR:>Mar 04 13:38
cubezzzman I really really hate windowsMar 04 13:38
DaemonFC"It's looking at me, Ray......"Mar 04 13:38
DaemonFClolMar 04 13:38
cubezzzdoesn't matter what versionMar 04 13:38
oiaohm_gnufreex: being at under 100 is impressive.Mar 04 13:38
cubezzzoiaohm_, what about zaurus? not a tablet?Mar 04 13:38
oiaohm_zaurus has a keyboard right?   cubezzzMar 04 13:39
oiaohm_cubezzz: so not a table.Mar 04 13:39
DaemonFCwhat number of bugs apply to Linux on x86/x86-64?Mar 04 13:39
cubezzzit still has touch-screenMar 04 13:39
DaemonFCthat's all I care aboutMar 04 13:39
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oiaohm_cubezzz: Yes MS was insane First tablet by them No keyboard of any form.   Yes they forgot the on screen keyboard.  So to type anything you had to find a keyboard and plug it in.Mar 04 13:40
DaemonFC"If God had wanted software to be reliable, he wouldn't have created reset buttons"Mar 04 13:40
DaemonFClolMar 04 13:40
gnufreexIBM is GoMar 04 13:40
gnufreexdMar 04 13:40
gnufreexAparentlyMar 04 13:40
MinceRIBM, too?Mar 04 13:40
gnufreexIBM created reset button on PCMar 04 13:40
oiaohm_cubezzz: Basically thing how badly MS stuffed up surface.  Then increase it by a factor of 10 in error rate.    Mar 04 13:40
cubezzzthe c64 didn't have a reset buttonMar 04 13:40
MinceR"Ray, if someone asks if you're a god, you say yes!"Mar 04 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Young Professional of the Year: douglas gan, ceo of shownearby #scs #fbMar 04 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Khronos Puts Out The Final WebGL 1.0 Specification: From the Game Developers' Conference happening this week in ... http://bit.ly/fiT64wMar 04 13:41
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MinceRneither did the SpectrumMar 04 13:41
MinceReven though it needed oneMar 04 13:41
cubezzzyeah both of them didMar 04 13:41
oiaohm_c64 did have a reset line.   There was a cartridge for 1 particular game that exposed it as a button.   MinceRMar 04 13:41
MinceR:>Mar 04 13:41
oiaohm_MinceR: Kinda said how stable the game was.Mar 04 13:41
MinceR:>Mar 04 13:42
gnufreexMINIX vs Hurd, hurd is clear winerMar 04 13:42
cubezzzsuper snapshot had reset Mar 04 13:42
gnufreexIt just that Mach blowsMar 04 13:42
DaemonFC"If your car failed every 3 months or so at random for no reason and you knew to turn it off, get out, and open and close the hood and turn it back on again, should the manufacturer be able to say 'What's the big deal? It costs you 10 seconds every 3 months!'"?Mar 04 13:42
DaemonFClolMar 04 13:42
cubezzzah, I miss those daysMar 04 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @themadhatter Microsoft Death Watch – Tablet Wars - http://bit.ly/hI5ZkB #microsoftMar 04 13:42
cubezzzdon't really want to go back to 40x25 mode thoughMar 04 13:42
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MinceR:>Mar 04 13:42
oiaohm_DaemonFC: some old russian cars were exactly how you described.Mar 04 13:43
cubezzzskoda, lada? :)Mar 04 13:43
gnufreexOh, Madhatter has more news about MSFT dyingMar 04 13:43
gnufreexYayMar 04 13:43
cubezzzyayMar 04 13:43
DaemonFCwhen XP was out and newish, someone told me they had a 7 month uptime, so I told them they better hope nobody exploited the 100 or so security flaws their system was open to without the patches that require a monthly rebootMar 04 13:43
cubezzzyeah well I installed FC1 in 2004Mar 04 13:44
oiaohm_Linux depends if you have ksplice or not DaemonFCMar 04 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pagina 12 (Argentina): El santo preferido de la embajada | http://is.gd/qJfVl7 !wlMar 04 13:44
DaemonFCand besides, I know they were lying because even if you have a 7 month uptime on Windows, your RAM is so fragmented that performance is going to be badMar 04 13:44
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oiaohm_DaemonFC: Record for XP I got was 12 months uptime.Mar 04 13:44
MinceR...if what they manufactured in the russian empire back then could be called carsMar 04 13:44
MinceRi'm not sure about thatMar 04 13:44
oiaohm_DaemonFC: but I did have a thrid party memory defragger. Mar 04 13:45
MinceRsure, they superficially resembled carsMar 04 13:45
cubezzzin one of the skodas you had to fold down a seat to put the gas in :)Mar 04 13:45
DaemonFCMinceR: Remember that SG1 episode where they were on another planet in a Russian submarine and the thing is making all kinds of noises (about to be crushed by external hull pressure), and Daniel Jackson cracks about it being a Russian sub and they're all going to dieMar 04 13:45
oiaohm_MinceR: Some were perfectly solid other than the engine fuel line and the missing firewall between engine and driver.Mar 04 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hall of Fame: Mr Lee Kwok Cheong former SCS president and ceo of unisim #scs #fbMar 04 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] IT Leader of the year: Tan Yen Yen #scs #fbMar 04 13:46
MinceRi'm talking about "cars", not submarines. :>Mar 04 13:46
DaemonFCRussian Officer: "The submarine was made in Switzerland" Jackson: "So it may explode now and then but it keeps perfect time?"Mar 04 13:46
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 13:46
MinceRSG-1 was awesomeMar 04 13:46
cubezzzI suppose if you had a computer with redundant everything, and all hot pluggable you could run foreverMar 04 13:46
oiaohm_cubezzz: Nop.Mar 04 13:46
oiaohm_Because one day you would not be able to get spare parts.Mar 04 13:47
DaemonFCcubezzz: Memory compaction might go a long way to those endsMar 04 13:47
cubezzzah that is trueMar 04 13:47
DaemonFCbut that's new and not really well utilizedMar 04 13:47
MinceRwhat if your computer could manufacture copies of itself? :>Mar 04 13:47
oiaohm_Run.  MinceRMar 04 13:47
DaemonFCSkynetMar 04 13:47
cubezzzskynet... bahMar 04 13:47
MinceRno, grey goo :>Mar 04 13:47
MinceRor gray goo, depending on your preference of dialectMar 04 13:48
oiaohm_Even if its not grey gooMar 04 13:48
DaemonFCMinceR: my ISP used to be SkyNetMar 04 13:48
cubezzzwe have microsoft-net which is bad enoughMar 04 13:48
DaemonFCryanfarmer@skynet.netMar 04 13:48
DaemonFCB-)Mar 04 13:48
DaemonFCmakes me wish they offered DSL just so I could keep that email domainMar 04 13:49
cubezzzah but oiaohm_ you could reverse engineer your partsMar 04 13:49
cubezzzif you really had toMar 04 13:49
cubezzznot easy :)Mar 04 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Inflation in !China? well, just a little... cherries cost €27 per kilo! !OnlyInChina #absurdMar 04 13:49
oiaohm_cubezzz: there is a computer here in australia that in theory still works.Mar 04 13:49
MinceR:>Mar 04 13:49
oiaohm_cubezzz: One of the first computer ever in AustraliaMar 04 13:49
cubezzzbuild a computer that can run on the most common hardware and buy a ton of sparesMar 04 13:49
cubezzzoiaohm_, Amiga 1000? ;-)Mar 04 13:50
oiaohm_Reason why its theory if it still works.  To turn it on will take the power feed from a full suburb of sydney.Mar 04 13:50
oiaohm_There comes a point when a hardware design no matter how maintainable is just not viable to run.Mar 04 13:51
DaemonFCwhat made me laugh was when Aaron R. Reynolds died (not about him dying), and one of his fellow Microsofties sayin there's probably still lots of code in Windows that only Reynolds ever knew why it was thereMar 04 13:51
DaemonFCthat's kind of humorous and frightening at onceMar 04 13:51
DaemonFC*sayingMar 04 13:51
oiaohm_Down right frightening is the correct statement.Mar 04 13:51
DaemonFCthe admission that no one person at Microsoft knows all about Windows and there are a few individuals who are the only ones who know why Windows does some of the things it doesMar 04 13:52
MinceRi doubt anyone at m$ really understands winblows, let alone anywhere elseMar 04 13:52
DaemonFCthat is blood curdling Mar 04 13:52
MinceRno, it's just business at usual in some placesMar 04 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Dell Inspiron M101z review - AMD and Ubuntu in a Dell?! http://bit.ly/eF1qfE #linuxMar 04 13:52
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DaemonFCwhat happens when some code Reynolds wrote causes bugs somewhere else and nobody at Microsoft knows how to go about fixing it because they don't understand what his code is for?Mar 04 13:53
DaemonFCthat could happen, right?Mar 04 13:53
MinceRthere's this new "we don't need documentation" memeMar 04 13:53
DaemonFChe's dead, who can ask him?Mar 04 13:53
MinceReven one of the fundamental themes of Agile is sort of thatMar 04 13:53
cubezzzoiaohm_, that's not true of any computer I actually ran for personal useMar 04 13:54
cubezzzonly those ancient behemoths with needed kilowatts of powerMar 04 13:54
DaemonFCTanenbaum: "If a toilet on an aircraft carrier gets clogged, the carrier doesn't start firing missiles"Mar 04 13:54
DaemonFClolMar 04 13:54
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cubezzzI had quiet a lot of problems with minixMar 04 13:55
cubezzznever could get it running Mar 04 13:55
DaemonFC"and likewise, if an incoming missile is detected, the toilets don't start flushing"Mar 04 13:55
DaemonFCroflMar 04 13:55
cubezzzanyway, anything since kim-1 I could run againMar 04 13:56
DaemonFCFreeBSD has ~3 bugs per 1,000 lines of code?Mar 04 13:56
DaemonFCat that rate, Linux would have 18,000 kernel bugsMar 04 13:57
DaemonFChehMar 04 13:57
cubezzzas long as it doesn't panicMar 04 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] argh... double use of 'using' in a single sentence... #ouchMar 04 13:57
DaemonFC85% of all Windows crashes are caused by drivers *MicrosoftMar 04 13:57
oiaohm_cubezzz: and what software do those ancient behemoths run.Mar 04 13:58
DaemonFCin Linux, drivers have 3-7x more bugs than the rest of the systemMar 04 13:58
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 13:58
DaemonFCso everyone has problems with driversMar 04 13:58
DaemonFCnot newsMar 04 13:58
oiaohm_DaemonFC: And what is the largest section of the Linux kernel.Mar 04 13:58
DaemonFCdriversMar 04 13:58
oiaohm_By what numberMar 04 13:58
DaemonFCno idea, but it's hugeMar 04 13:59
DaemonFCprobably half the kernel or moreMar 04 13:59
oiaohm_About 3 times.Mar 04 13:59
cubezzzoiaohm_, good questionMar 04 13:59
DaemonFCif you count all of them on every archMar 04 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] CentOS 4.9 (maintenance), 32 & 64 bits, was released! #gnu #linux #centos #free #software #romania http://is.gd/vn4j8CMar 04 13:59
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cubezzzI think the Ferranti Pegasus is the oldest working machineMar 04 13:59
oiaohm_So at 3x the number of bugs than what is found in the main kernel is about what you would expect.Mar 04 13:59
oiaohm_Linux the drivers are not that bad DaemonFCMar 04 14:00
DaemonFCvideo drivers are no doubt the worst offendersMar 04 14:00
cubezzznot even sure if it had an operating system to be honestMar 04 14:00
oiaohm_Most of the really bad drivers are the drivers out side the mainline.Mar 04 14:00
DaemonFCjsut because they're the single most complex part of the PCMar 04 14:00
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DaemonFCvideo cards that isMar 04 14:00
oiaohm_DaemonFC: Microsoft is not truthful about what the issue is.Mar 04 14:00
oiaohm_Its the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.Mar 04 14:00
DaemonFCa $100 video card today has more computing power than a supercomputer 10 years agoMar 04 14:01
cubezzzI think windows would have OK uptime if it wasn't connected to the internet :)Mar 04 14:01
DaemonFCthat's scary and explains a lot about why the free drivers never work rightMar 04 14:01
oiaohm_Ie kernel developers make an alteration if the driver developer does not know about it the it breaks.Mar 04 14:01
oiaohm_DaemonFC: Issue with video card drivers is not what you think it is.Mar 04 14:01
DaemonFCthe proprietary drivers usually have a lot of bugs, but 85% of the code is cross platform (*Nvidia)Mar 04 14:01
DaemonFCand probably the same with FGLRXMar 04 14:02
DaemonFCthe Linux specific stuff is just a glue moduleMar 04 14:02
DaemonFCthe actual driver code is basically the same on Windows or OS X or BSDMar 04 14:02
oiaohm_Yet there are still lots of bugs in the cross platform module.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:02
DaemonFCwhether this violates the GPL or not is a subject of contention, but nobody is suing over itMar 04 14:03
oiaohm_DaemonFC: the glue is quite low on bugs.Mar 04 14:03
DaemonFCprobably because a lot of people wouldn't use Linux without functional video cardsMar 04 14:03
MinceR145835 < DaemonFC> that's scary and explains a lot about why the free drivers never work rightMar 04 14:03
MinceRwrong premise.Mar 04 14:03
MinceRthe free video driver works right on this netbook.Mar 04 14:03
DaemonFCIntel chipsets are stupid and simpleMar 04 14:03
DaemonFCand pass most of the tricky stuff to a software rasterizer anywayMar 04 14:04
oiaohm_DaemonFC: Thinking for numbers of users.   Linux users account for around 30 percent of Nvidia bug reports.   Mar 04 14:04
MinceRand they happen to workMar 04 14:04
DaemonFCand run it on the CPUMar 04 14:04
MinceRand they don't hang the machine on suspendMar 04 14:04
MinceRetc.Mar 04 14:04
oiaohm_DaemonFC: and most of those bugs are not Linux dependant.   Mar 04 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] I can't bake croissants: a fable on project documentation | http://bit.ly/hYcH7o #FOSS #communityMar 04 14:04
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DaemonFCright, bugs that they fix in the Windows driver are also usually fixing problems on LinuxMar 04 14:04
DaemonFCthe proprietary driver for Linux benefits from the work they do to fix bugs for Windows and Mac usersMar 04 14:04
oiaohm_DaemonFC: No windows users most of them don't know how to report bugs.Mar 04 14:05
oiaohm_DaemonFC: so they are suffering from the bug and don't talk up.Mar 04 14:05
DaemonFCyeah, that's why it collects bug reports and fires them off to Nvidia or ATI behind their backMar 04 14:05
DaemonFCcheck the EULAMar 04 14:05
DaemonFCB-)Mar 04 14:05
oiaohm_DaemonFC: Nvidia bugs are normally quite effective at killing everything.Mar 04 14:05
DaemonFCalso, Windows Hardware Error Reporting sends these dumps to MicrosoftMar 04 14:06
oiaohm_Including there so called smart bug reporting.Mar 04 14:06
DaemonFCwho sends them to Nvidia and ATIMar 04 14:06
DaemonFCyou agree to that in the Windows EULAMar 04 14:06
oiaohm_Nvidia bugs even normally don't send off Windows Hardware Error reporting either.Mar 04 14:06
DaemonFCso Windows users send crash dumps but they probably don't realize itMar 04 14:06
oiaohm_Nvidia.  What crash dump.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:06
DaemonFCWindows has recovered from a serious error, blah blah blah, click hereMar 04 14:07
DaemonFCcrash dump gets sentMar 04 14:07
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 14:07
cubezzzyou can click don't send thoughMar 04 14:07
oiaohm_Yes and with most Nvidia crashs the crash dump file is blank.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:07
DaemonFCmost people don't and default is don't ask, just sendMar 04 14:07
oiaohm_That gets sent to MS.Mar 04 14:07
DaemonFCif you click through the defaults in setup, Windows does a lot of shit behind your backMar 04 14:07
DaemonFCso Microsoft would get your crash dumps without asking per incidentMar 04 14:08
oiaohm_You have not asked why yet.Mar 04 14:08
DaemonFCincluding possible personal data that was in the memory at the timeMar 04 14:08
DaemonFCfun stuffMar 04 14:08
oiaohm_Nvidia fears the crash dumps might expose there trade secrets.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:08
DaemonFCright, Microsoft has an NDA with NvidiaMar 04 14:08
oiaohm_NoMar 04 14:09
oiaohm_Nvidia drivers void the crash reporting to MS.Mar 04 14:09
DaemonFCUser doesn't know they sent a crashdump to Microsoft, Microsoft sends the dump to Nvidia, Nvidia silently patches their bugs, nobody ever knows but themMar 04 14:09
oiaohm_Infact no.Mar 04 14:09
DaemonFCcool right?Mar 04 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: ♻ @themadhatter Microsoft Death Watch – Tablet Wars - http://bit.ly/hI5ZkB #microsoft #windows #softwareMar 04 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: Mozilla's Web O'(pen) Wonder http://t.co/i4fPU4b via @firefoxMar 04 14:09
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oiaohm_Nvidia recieves the crashdump directly if there is 1.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:09
oiaohm_And if its not Nvidia then it goes on to MS.Mar 04 14:09
oiaohm_Nasty what you can get a company to agree to when you say no support for our hardware unless you do what we say.Mar 04 14:10
DaemonFCMinceR: One of the reasons I like Chromium is because the sandbox walls off Adobe TrashMar 04 14:10
DaemonFCI remember you saying you didn't like Chromium at one pointMar 04 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @debian: #Debian wins two of seven categories at the #Linux New Media Awards 2011 - http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110304Mar 04 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: Internet de până la 21.6 Mbps pentru clienţii Orange România http://mbls.ro/ehStqdMar 04 14:11
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DaemonFCif I have to run Trash, which is the cause of most security bugs in any browser it's loaded in, I want it in that SUID sandboxMar 04 14:11
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 14:11
oiaohm_DaemonFC: People like MinceR and Me reserve the point to change our minds.Mar 04 14:11
DaemonFCbut Chrome is bad because it doesn't ask you if you want Trash or Adobe PDF reader codeMar 04 14:11
MinceRDaemonFC: i don't like chromium right nowMar 04 14:12
DaemonFCit just brings them along for the rideMar 04 14:12
MinceRsomething needs to wall _it_ off from the kernelMar 04 14:12
oiaohm_The sandboxing in Linux is one of the major weakness Linux has compared to bsd and solarias.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:12
MinceRtrash isn't so much of a threat to system stability and usability as chromium right nowMar 04 14:12
oiaohm_So its not just a Chrome issue.Mar 04 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: This weekend #ubuntu presentation in Iasi #romania http://bit.ly/gTpIY2Mar 04 14:12
DaemonFCseccomp or SUID sandboxes are both goodMar 04 14:12
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DaemonFCSUID is betterMar 04 14:12
MinceRoiaohm_: actually there are ways to do sandboxing properly on gnu/linuxMar 04 14:13
MinceRjust what chromium does doesn't seem to be one of them.Mar 04 14:13
oiaohm_MinceR:  Not from userspace in a LSM netural way.Mar 04 14:13
oiaohm_MinceR: Normal userspaceMar 04 14:13
DaemonFCthe way I understand it is that seccomp restricts what the application can ask the system to do but SUID sandboxing effectively runs every process in a chroot?Mar 04 14:13
DaemonFCSUID sounds a lot strongerMar 04 14:14
MinceRDaemonFC: i think that would be the pointMar 04 14:14
MinceRbut chroots don't do everythingMar 04 14:14
MinceRsome sort of virtualization would be betterMar 04 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Prezentare #Ubuntu la #Iași, sâmbătă și duminică http://is.gd/h5T0Ll #microsoft #linux #gnu #software #iasiMar 04 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Bacon Is Still Talked About For Fedora 16: It's that time of the year again when the Fedora Project seeks out a ... http://bit.ly/dW3pMOMar 04 14:14
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DaemonFCthere have been sandbox escape bugs on Linux Chromium, both for seccomp and SUIDMar 04 14:14
DaemonFCit's not bulletproof, it's a roadblockMar 04 14:14
MinceRpreferably a method that doesn't rely on code from google getting any sorts of privilegesMar 04 14:15
oiaohm_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp  DaemonFC read please.   seccomp makes chroot look weak.Mar 04 14:15
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oiaohm_SUID is required at this stage to create a seccomp mode.Mar 04 14:15
oiaohm_I really personally think that should be altered.Mar 04 14:15
DaemonFCChromium has either/orMar 04 14:15
DaemonFCyou can enable one without the other according to the documentationMar 04 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Curious Case of Media Opposing Government Transparency - http://bit.ly/gKEO5C Old #Journalism fail: info is commoditised now, chapsMar 04 14:16
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DaemonFCenabling both causes problemsMar 04 14:16
DaemonFCthe way "Spot" packages Chromium for Fedora, it uses SUID, not seccompMar 04 14:16
DaemonFCthe way the hourly builds on Chromium's site are built, both sandboxes are offMar 04 14:17
DaemonFCyou can turn them on yourself thoughMar 04 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Novell Tries to Beat Red Hat with Red Hat's Own Tech http://is.gd/6zN2ak #novell #redhat #linux #gnuMar 04 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #AOL To Announce Outside.In Acquisition Today, Less Than $10 Million - http://read.bi/eRSuAL lovely slapdown: "we gave Outside.in a D-."Mar 04 14:17
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DaemonFCsandboxes mess with debugging code so it makes sense to build them with sandboxing disabled by defaultMar 04 14:18
DaemonFCthey're short lives and mainly meant for regression testingMar 04 14:18
DaemonFC*livedMar 04 14:18
oiaohm_Really sandbox's should make debuging simpler.  DaemonFCMar 04 14:18
oiaohm_particularly the way Seccomp is designed.Mar 04 14:19
oiaohm_Biggest complain from chrome developers is Seccomp will not allow other syscalls to be used.Mar 04 14:19
oiaohm_Its a sand box any system access should be audited.Mar 04 14:20
DaemonFCit's not supposed toMar 04 14:20
DaemonFCit's made with the idea you could be running malwareMar 04 14:20
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 14:20
oiaohm_They would like to be able to catch the kill.Mar 04 14:20
oiaohm_and process the syscall.Mar 04 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Party Calls Protest As Movie Sharer Jailed For 30 Days - http://bit.ly/hNjnx5 the Serbs are perturbed - quite rightly... #piracyMar 04 14:21
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oiaohm_Current design of Seccomp do a syscall kernel is killing that is end of arguement.Mar 04 14:21
DaemonFCI mostly use Chromium TrunkMar 04 14:22
DaemonFCit's an easy way to use the latest, and if something bad happens, it's easy to go back to a known good buildMar 04 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LQDN Responds to the Parliamentary Pre-report on Net Neutrality - http://bit.ly/h881d2 sounds good stuff #netneutrality #euMar 04 14:24
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*DaemonFC usually runs the latest versions of the stuff he cares aboutMar 04 14:24
DaemonFCwhy I wondered if anyone is building latest KDE for ELMar 04 14:24
DaemonFCI would run EL because it's a very stable core, but I care about KDE and the apps in it being currentMar 04 14:25
DaemonFCI might look into EL 6 when and if that happensMar 04 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In Age of Its Demise #Microsoft Leans on Corruptible Analysts, Infiltration, Loans and Tax Avoidance http://ur1.ca/3dxr9 #opensourceMar 04 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] In Age of Its Demise #Microsoft Leans on Corruptible Analysts, Infiltration, Loans and Tax Avoidance http://ur1.ca/3dxr9 #idg #idc #taxMar 04 14:26
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DaemonFCKDE-RedHat was building new KDE for EL 5Mar 04 14:26
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DaemonFCif they start doing that for EL 6 I will use an EL 6 distroMar 04 14:26
amarsh04http://consumerist.com/2011/03/could-backscatter-scanners-be-coming-to-city-streets.htmlMar 04 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gentle giant spokesman for high-calorie burger chain Heart Attack Grill dies at just 29 - http://bit.ly/i4sHx2 can't imagine why #hubrisMar 04 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Web Video Rivalry Sparks U.S. Probe (WSJ) http://lwn.net/Articles/431203/rssMar 04 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] iDect iHome #Android phone - http://bit.ly/gjN39s nice, but pricey; i'll wait for 2.0, thanks...Mar 04 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sebas: #KDE Ships March Updates: 4.6.1, codename: Helga, see http://dot.kde.org/2011/03/04/kde-ships-march-updates-codenamed-helgaMar 04 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Million Song Dataset - http://bit.ly/f30zao "freely-available collection of audio features & metadata for a 10^6 music tracks": 280 GBMar 04 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Skillet - Better Than DrugsMar 04 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] In Age of Its Demise #Microsoft Leans on Corruptible Analysts, Infiltration, Loans and Tax Avoidance http://ur1.ca/3dxr9 #opensourceMar 04 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: LQDN Responds to the Parliamentary Pre-report on Net Neutrality - http://bit.ly/h881d2 sounds good stuff #netneutrality #euMar 04 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright reform is needed in UK: letter to the Telegraph - http://bit.ly/hrOstd rather meek, but the copyright maximalists will still howlMar 04 14:49
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amarsh04from dmesg on my PII-266 machine: Linux version 2.6.38-rc7+ (root@am64) (gcc version 4.6.0 20110126 (experimental) [trunk revision 169270] (Debian 4.6-20110125-1) ) #46 SMP Fri Mar 4 23:37:56 CST 2011Mar 04 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "criticism towards !GNOME Shell" by @jospoortvliet http://nowwhatthe.blogspot.com/2011/03/criticism-towards-gnome-shell.htmlMar 04 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British biz roasts Hargreaves' 'Google Review' - http://bit.ly/dHvZ3b talking of maximalists, here's more of the usual nonsense frm OrlowskiMar 04 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ForgeRock news: OpenAM 9.5.2 and J2EE Agents 3.0.3 Released... http://wmk.me/hm4bAQMar 04 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] MSBBC Finally Calls Out… Android (to Scare People) http://ur1.ca/3dxxb #bbc #fud #linux #android #google #windows #bsaMar 04 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC Finally Calls Out… Android (to Scare People) http://ur1.ca/3dxxb !linux !android !google !windowsMar 04 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Weapons and the Art of Diplomacy | Reuters http://is.gd/s5905n !wlMar 04 15:04
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nisshhschestowitz, lol, i just found out an Ubuntu Fanboy i know dislikes you :)Mar 04 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Swaziland 'imports firearms through Mozambique' | AFP http://is.gd/DiaV6f !wlMar 04 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @_Goblin @AirborneDude501 @Amazonia_de_Pe @AndersonFRech @AndroidSecrets @arleisilva @AugustBecker0 @CiscoNetAcad @COnservAdorBRMar 04 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #BBC quick to fault #android & #openness - http://bbc.in/dLjLUz yet practically never names #windows in years of malware (v @schestowitz)Mar 04 15:12
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DaemonFCfunny how that Blocklist Manager is a massive program that needs VB and ActiveX controlsMar 04 15:13
DaemonFCand I can merge lists with sort -u then sort -mMar 04 15:13
DaemonFC:/Mar 04 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yahoo, BT and more launch UK ‘Cloud Radio’ project. What’s that? - http://bit.ly/fnBYk1 & why does it need UK taxpayers' money to do it?Mar 04 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Harvard Law Reviews WikiLeaks Censorship http://is.gd/HHDv37 !wlMar 04 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] KDE Software Compilation 4.6.1 Arrives: For those of you running KDE Software Compilation, the first point relea... http://bit.ly/fIwkA9Mar 04 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Will Floating Point Textures Be Merged Into Mesa?: Lucas Stach has brought a proposal to the Mesa mailing list o... http://bit.ly/g9OECNMar 04 15:14
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DaemonFC[ryan@ryan-desktop lists]$ sort -u badpeers fornonlancomputers level1 level2 level3 Microsoft rangetest exclusions hijacked proxy spider && sort -m badpeers fornonlancomputers level1 level2 level3 Microsoft rangetest exclusions hijacked proxy spider > combined.txtMar 04 15:16
DaemonFCthat's a brainerMar 04 15:16
DaemonFC:PMar 04 15:16
DaemonFCwe like totally need a VB/ActiveX app to do thisMar 04 15:17
DaemonFCd00dMar 04 15:17
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 15:17
MinceRnot m$ visual java?Mar 04 15:17
schestowitznisshh: which one?Mar 04 15:17
schestowitzPopey?Mar 04 15:17
DaemonFCthey seem to still prefer VB6Mar 04 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] whoopsie! got a problem upgrading !debian from 5.0 to 6.0: http://wklej.org/id/486668/ any pointers?..Mar 04 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Justice Department Takes on the #MPEG #Cartel as #IBM Distances Itself From Cartel Defenders http://ur1.ca/3dy19 #swpatsMar 04 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] US Justice Department Takes on the MPEG Cartel as !IBM Distances Itself From Cartel Defenders http://ur1.ca/3dy19 #antitrust #vp8 #webmMar 04 15:17
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nisshhschestowitz, a guy with the IRC nick akshatjMar 04 15:18
nisshhthe OMGUbuntu writerMar 04 15:18
nisshhor one of them anywayMar 04 15:18
gnufreexthose that write OMG drek usually disregard reallityMar 04 15:19
schestowitzThey don't like me at OMG UbuntuMar 04 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Harvard Law Reviews #WikiLeaks #Censorship - http://bit.ly/fCtBEa looks like another biggie from Yochai Benkler: great to seeMar 04 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anyone who thinks that BBC is impartial or does not self censor or come under political pressure Google Kate Adie 1986 #Libya bombing.Mar 04 15:19
schestowitz!google omgubuntu techrightsMar 04 15:19
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gnufreexand hate those who don't play along with MSFT propagandaMar 04 15:19
nisshhgnufreex, yeah, the guy who hates schestowitz is a total ubuntu fanboyMar 04 15:19
schestowitz!google testingMar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Software testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_testingMar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Test.com Web Based Testing and Certification Software v2.0 | http://www.test.com/Mar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Speakeasy - Speed Test | http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/Mar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - testing - Debian | http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/Mar 04 15:20
schestowitz!google omgubuntu techrightsMar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - OMG!Ubuntu! Likes Mono | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/12/complementary-to-mono/Mar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - “OMGUbuntu Makes a Dig at Mono?” | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/10/19/omgubuntu-on-clementine/Mar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - NewsBytes 17th October 2010 – Mono, IE9, Badboy Ballmer & Angry ... | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/10/17/newsbytes-17th-october-2010-%25E2%2580%2593-mono-ie9-badboy-ballmer-angry-birds/Mar 04 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Techrights/Boycottnovell – Bane or boon? An experience | Manish's ... | http://milky.manishsinha.net/2011/01/16/techrightsboycottnovell-bane-or-boon-an-experience/Mar 04 15:20
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gnufreexCanonical probably knows that they are folowing novell's tracks so they work hard to discredit all posible critics.Mar 04 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Swaziland 'imports firearms through Mozambique' | AFP http://is.gd/DiaV6f http://bit.ly/dRmDF2Mar 04 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Harvard Law Reviews WikiLeaks Censorship http://is.gd/HHDv37 http://bit.ly/eTcCPuMar 04 15:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shark fishing in #Japan - video - http://bit.ly/gxqXqh more on Japan's selfish War on Fish #sustainability #fisheriesMar 04 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google and #Microsoft Are Not Friends http://ur1.ca/3dy5s #swpats #spin #propaganda #lobbying #antitrustMar 04 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Google and !Microsoft Are Not Friends http://ur1.ca/3dy5sMar 04 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jospoortvliet Seriously, I'm still laughing. Novell wrote Banshee years ago to hurt Canonical when they adopted it - that was forwar ...Mar 04 15:46
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cubezzzmicrosoft can't kill google, but hopefully google will kill MicrosoftMar 04 15:50
DaemonFCsqlite, FreeType fonts, zlib, gstreamer, glibc, libvpx, lobogg, libvorbis, libtheora, hunspell, OpenSSLMar 04 15:54
oiaohm_cubezzz: Really MS problem is Linux world can do a multi point attack.  Mar 04 15:54
DaemonFClist of all the open source software that Opera depends upon as of 11.10 Build 2018Mar 04 15:54
DaemonFCthey'd be in deep shit if they had to write that much functionality from scratchMar 04 15:55
DaemonFC:)Mar 04 15:55
DaemonFC*liboggMar 04 15:56
cubezzzthe more multi the betterMar 04 16:01
cubezzzeverybody vs GatesMar 04 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Novell "support" says IP_VS is not part of SLE10SP3 (ip_vs.ko loads, ipvsadm works but keepalived is borked due to lack of linux/if_addr.h )Mar 04 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Opera subverts Apple's attack, results in hilarity http://ur1.ca/3dy9lMar 04 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Patent Reform Act is a Joke http://ur1.ca/3dya3 #swpats #patents #uspto #lawMar 04 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Patent Reform Act is a Joke http://ur1.ca/3dya3 #us #monopoly #litigationMar 04 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DOJ Anti-trust Investigation of MPEG-LA http://ur1.ca/3dyboMar 04 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] More carry-on luggage costing #TSA millions a year, solution is to fire the TSA http://ur1.ca/3dybvMar 04 16:11
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gnufreexmac is having an Fud episode again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/04/open_source_in_mobile/Mar 04 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Aye! I be now in the mood to write some PIRATE DRAMA! Arrrrrrrrr! :DMar 04 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh save that inspiration, scriptfrenzy starts in one monthMar 04 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh: I pronounce RHEL "arr hell" because I like to say "hell"Mar 04 16:19
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedomMar 04 16:32
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010Mar 04 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra So we are aiming at roughly 50 - 60 pages. Although saying that, we already have 20 written.Mar 04 16:32
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-tomaw-[Global Notice] Hi again. As you will have noticed we're having some connectivity problems again this afternoon. We're working with sponsors to rectify it.Mar 04 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh If some one asked me how many pages long is the average play I'd have no idea and I used to AM Dram when I was younger tooMar 04 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh well then, might I suggest writing the film adaptation in April?Mar 04 16:34
DaemonFCthe new block switching code in AoTuv is working out quite wellMar 04 16:35
DaemonFCI understand that he wrote it in such a way to avoid MPEG patents but get the same quality improvement that the AAC algorithm providesMar 04 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter Microsoft Death Watch – Tablet Wars - http://bit.ly/hI5ZkB #microsoftMar 04 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #FF @schestowitz @hgfernan @p2pnet @lnxwalt140 @lamm @eff @marjoleink @encyclomundi @kevie @satipera @maloki @x11r5 @tekk @chillicampariMar 04 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Return of the Jedi was 94 pages. slackerMar 04 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra LOL, I might do. Let's see how this weekend goes, first.Mar 04 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Ⓕ New OpenAM and OpenDJ Releases: Today has been a big landmark for many of the developers at ForgeRock and in t... http://wmk.me/ePJcDUMar 04 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I did have this idea to adapt #Minecraft for the big screen, however..... ;)Mar 04 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] a very short follow friday list so I'll have missed even more than ususal but I *have* to get Inconstant Moon finished... !selfpub !mynovelMar 04 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] One way or another, I will be uploading the finished version of "Inconstant Moon" to #CreateSpace Sunday night latest. !NaNoWriMo !selfpubMar 04 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] NVIDIA 270.30 Works With X.Org Server 1.10 Final: Due to RandR 1.4 being pulled from X.Org Server 1.10, the vide... http://bit.ly/gT7s43Mar 04 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh oh great: 2 pages of shit blowing up and 98 pages of a chicken clucking.Mar 04 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Software Patents Defenders Change Their Minds http://ur1.ca/3dykq #swpats #uspto #progressiveMar 04 16:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/43699504951738368Mar 04 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] When Software Patents Defenders Change Their Minds http://ur1.ca/3dykq #monopoly #usptoMar 04 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Malware at the Heart of the BBC's Decline - http://bit.ly/e5x6dM a canker in the wilting rose... #bbc #android #windowsMar 04 16:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/43695793982541824Mar 04 16:48
gnufreexhahahaha http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/04/windows_update/Mar 04 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interpol issued "RED notice" for Assange, who was merely wanted for questioning, but issues lower "ORANGE notice" for Ghadafhi !wlMar 04 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @G20inquiry: If this isn't a sign of fascism I don't know what is !! Also if you haven't heard at the end of G20... http://fb.me/sPSWX2sBMar 04 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @themadhatter Not in my book. They got the bad habits from IBM and made them even worse. IBM was the role model 4 M$.Mar 04 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @db_s_turbosnail: News coming thru that #Gaddafi is expected 2 make appear soon on Libyan state TV. What to expect now? #LibyaMar 04 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT@ !wikileaks Interpol issued"RED notice"for Assange, who was merely wanted for questioning, but issues lower "ORANGE notice" for GhadafhiMar 04 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] More Fun with Anti-Open Source FUD http://bit.ly/i8dabT #linuxMar 04 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody: Malware at the Heart of the #BBC's Decline - http://bit.ly/e5x6dM a canker in the wilting rose #android #windowsMar 04 16:51
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DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20110304/LOCAL0102/103040343/1001/SPORTS03/Secretary-state-indicted-urged-step-down?odyssey=nav%7CheadMar 04 16:52
DaemonFChehMar 04 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @beagleboardorg !Yocto and #OpenEmbedded Combine Forces: What Does It Mean? (Linux.com) http://goo.gl/fb/wZm85 !beagleboardMar 04 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Windows Brick 7 does it's trick again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/04/windows_update/ #microsoft #failMar 04 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Vendor-sec host compromised, shut down http://lwn.net/Articles/431228/rssMar 04 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in arms 446 tser : Iliakaj throws me into the pool. http://bit.ly/h44XZE #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitMar 04 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @morag: The privatisation of blood donations http://ur1.ca/3dyly because privatisation worked so well elsewhere #nhs #ukgovMar 04 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @themadhatter Yeah, but IBM was nasty in its heydays... M$ just turned out nastier.Mar 04 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra The other way round, mate. Savvy? :DMar 04 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Steven Blaney was lobbied by Westport Power Inc. on Feb. 16 http://bit.ly/e3glIWMar 04 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Richard Harris was lobbied by Westport Power Inc. on Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/h2Wi3vMar 04 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Brian Jean was lobbied by Assoc of International Automobile Manufacturers of Canada on Feb. 23 http://bit.ly/hPipdvMar 04 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP John McCallum lobbied by Assoc of International Automobile Manufacturers of Canada on Feb. 24 http://bit.ly/gfTNbvMar 04 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Brad Trost was lobbied by Assoc of International Automobile Manufacturers of Canada on Feb. 28 http://bit.ly/hvYCAVMar 04 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Merv Tweed was lobbied by Assoc of International Automobile Manufacturers of Canada on Feb. 16 http://bit.ly/hbH0ZtMar 04 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] ha! while modifying a python script to download the latest !LO, I found a duplicate of the new script, that I created a few months ago.Mar 04 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Mark Warawa was lobbied by Westport Power Inc. on Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/ggknGdMar 04 16:59
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TechrightsBot-tr@skippergimp: @popey @schestowitz Do I eat at McDonalds because deep down I want meet Ronald McDonlad?Mar 04 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr@grifferz: @popey conversely they say that @schestowitz works for techrights hoping to get a call from the mothershipMar 04 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Technoviking: @popey @schestowitz hehMar 04 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr@popey: According to @schestowitz I contribute to #ubuntu in the hope I'll one day get a call from Mark Shuttleworth http://popey.me/eEJa8o :)Mar 04 16:59
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schestowitzSigh..Mar 04 16:59
schestowitzWell, he didn't misrepresent what I said thoughMar 04 17:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/43694832740347905Mar 04 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr@_Goblin: @schestowitz it may then be Sunday as I'm rather busy on sat in the afternoonMar 04 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICE Arrests Operator Of Seized Domain; Charges Him With Criminal #Copyright Infringement - http://bit.ly/glCSAr good points, bad caseMar 04 17:02
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Omar_S_Hafez/status/43678096343314432Mar 04 17:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Omar_S_Hafez: @schestowitz It's not like #Microsoft is the only company that does that, right?Mar 04 17:02
schestowitzMany large companies evade taxMar 04 17:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jospoortvliet/status/43667639352041472Mar 04 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr@jospoortvliet: @schestowitz your article about Banshee gave me a good laugh, I really love how twisted you can think sometimes hehe, keep it up :DMar 04 17:03
schestowitzOpenSUSE community manager...Mar 04 17:03
schestowitz'Novell's jono'Mar 04 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] 6 tips for aspiring civic software developers via @govfresh and @lukefretwell | http://bit.ly/hfAHMB #zonabilityMar 04 17:04
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schestowitzA dent of mine is in the front page of identica as top dent...Mar 04 17:07
schestowitzIt's not even a good oneMar 04 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OhMar 04 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TorontoPolice: The Aboriginal Peacekeeping Unit are honoured to present at Aboriginal Missing+Murdered Women's Awareness ConfMar 04 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @cancivlib: RT @SherryBGood: Police services review of G20 moves to next phase - thestar.com http://goo.gl/jlDkMMar 04 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: Windsor man pleads guilty to torching cruiser at G20: http://bit.ly/dLzEPDMar 04 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @wikileaks: Interpol issued "RED notice" for Assange, who was merely wanted for questioning but issues lower "ORANGE notice" for GhadafhiMar 04 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 5 Key Issues Impacting the Future of Facebook - http://bit.ly/eXppPy Number 6: #Facebook fatigueMar 04 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Best Rare-Bird Pictures of 2010 Named - http://bit.ly/f6D8VS what fab pix; how the world would be poorer without these beasties...Mar 04 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lion's share of IT contract spend is taken by 4 government departments - http://bit.ly/g2fHsW that "legacy systems" excuse popping up againMar 04 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Shatner seems like an arrogant egotistical self centred prick, I'm glad he was shunned for the new #StarTrek http://tighturl.com/2zhyMar 04 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] End of a very busy week. Great ROI, I hope, but too tiresome. There must be life out of here! ;-)Mar 04 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hyperlocal Heartbreak: Why Haven't Neighborhood News Technologies Worked Out? - http://rww.to/dFmQjm good question, good analysisMar 04 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chipping In to Pay the Man Who Helped Introduce the Internet to So Many of Us - http://rww.to/hAAwoO yeah, me too; pity it's only via paypalMar 04 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft Said to Plan Windows for #Tablets Release for 2012 Back to School - http://bloom.bg/eBbqbz truth to tell, tab a tad tardy...Mar 04 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can #Android beat #iOS and dominate the #tablet market? - http://bit.ly/haFZeh course - just like it is doing in smartphonesMar 04 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Little Steven did a WoW ad? Oo Amazing! :DMar 04 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Internet Explorer 6 Countdown - http://bit.ly/hTKoJn interesting site from #microsoft; look at figure for #china... (v @limbclock) #ieMar 04 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Noam Chomsky 2010 USA imperialism. Starts about 7.30 in. Section on #Libya. Generally very interesting. http://is.gd/FPBUdF !PalestineMar 04 17:51
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gnufreexschestowitz: I just read logs from yesterday and... popey is UF mod? And he doesn't like Ubuntu critics? Seriously? Why don't delete Lins** drek then.Mar 04 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IFPI, UK Police, Credit Card Companies Push People To Pirate Music, Rather Than Pay For It - http://bit.ly/fvuLIl not thinking it through...Mar 04 17:56
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gnufreexI thought ubuntu forum mods love Canonical criticismMar 04 17:57
gnufreexThey are teaming up with ****Mar 04 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... I now get random mentions from Feb 26 in Heybuddy. WTF!?Mar 04 17:57
gnufreexwhen they want to bash Free SoftwareMar 04 17:57
Ziomatrixgnufreex: its only good criticism if its not directly at themMar 04 17:58
Ziomatrixbtw did you hear WP7 is still facing issues in updating Samsung handsets after proclaiming a "fix?"Mar 04 17:58
gnufreexYeahMar 04 17:58
gnufreexI dentedMar 04 17:58
gnufreexitMar 04 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Love the new look of status.net - that rocks! Will current accounts get ported to 1.0?Mar 04 17:59
ZiomatrixI wonder what HP's most recent acquisition means, it seems the new CEO wants to make HP's enterprise more like his old home.Mar 04 18:00
gnufreexWell, he's gonna sink HP thenMar 04 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] True learning of computer science starts when student install GNU/Linux and learn about OpenStandards...Mar 04 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are iPad magazines being killed by greed? - http://bit.ly/gOkE4q is the Pope a etc etc #publishing #ipadMar 04 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @glynmoody The Internet Explorer 6 Countdown - http://bit.ly/hTKoJn interesting site from #microsoft; look at figure for #china... (v ...Mar 04 18:01
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gnufreexMSFT can just up prices and they are in red.Mar 04 18:01
gnufreexThey don't tolerate competition from their subsidiariesMar 04 18:01
gnufreexUnless HP plans to go GNU/Linux or mass produce VMS, they are going to do what MSFT says.Mar 04 18:02
Ziomatrixgnufreex: all indications point that HP wants their PCs to emulate Apple as in having a dedicated OS based on open source since its cheaper to maintain and software services on "premium" hardware.Mar 04 18:03
Ziomatrixgnufreex: As for their enterprise, I can see them maintaining MS servitude Mar 04 18:04
Ziomatrixgnufreex: however their latest announcements on expanding fog services shows that they want to become platform agnostic like almost everyone else in the industry is doing.Mar 04 18:05
gnufreexWhat are going to do with Itanium... that is the question.Mar 04 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe Bans PS3 Imports, But Who Wins In #Patent Wars? - http://bit.ly/fhHYje "How do you fix it?" I don't need to answer that one, do I...?Mar 04 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @nsisodiya True learning of computer science starts when student install GNU/Linux and learn about OpenStandards...Mar 04 18:06
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gnufreexThey should either ask intel to sell it to them, or dump it.Mar 04 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Help @NeighborGoods, the leading online community for local resource sharing - find out more at http://bit.ly/hpypmFMar 04 18:09
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Ziomatrixgnufreex: why would HP want to be saddled with a sad excuse of a DEC Alpha scion that was always overpriced and was edged out by cheaper x86 competition? Its even behind in fabrication size from the most budget oriented offerings. Mar 04 18:09
gnufreexWell, they are saddled more now, when they need to buy it from intel at high prices.Mar 04 18:11
gnufreexAnd they need to have it, since they don't have other high end platfromMar 04 18:11
gnufreexThey stupidly kiled PARISC and AlphaMar 04 18:11
Ziomatrixgnufreex: they can just use x86-64s like the rest, its not as if HP offers services that can't be filled in by more reasonably priced hardwareMar 04 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz alas, no...Mar 04 18:12
Ziomatrixgnufreex: that was then and it was a dumb move to adopt DOA ItaniumMar 04 18:12
gnufreexThey shuld have just kept Alpha going.Mar 04 18:13
Ziomatrixgnufreex: well that was Compaq's faultMar 04 18:13
gnufreexAnd PA RISC wasn't bad either.Mar 04 18:13
Ziomatrixgnufreex: Compaq's CEO sold the IP to Intel and gutted DEC fabrication. Then "the first Fortune 500 female CEO" acquired a broken Compaq only for their CDW Business Solution service and did massive layoffs and gutted HP's R&D. The rest is history.Mar 04 18:14
gnufreexIt was DEC who sold fabs to IntelMar 04 18:15
gnufreexPalmer guyMar 04 18:15
gnufreexand StrongARMMar 04 18:15
gnufreexLater he sold everything to compaqMar 04 18:15
Ziomatrixgnufreex: ah ok, thanks for correcting me. Mar 04 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Muslim student sues FBI over GPS tracking device placed on his car without a warrant http://ur1.ca/3dz3eMar 04 18:16
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Ziomatrixgnufreex: the fact of the matter is HP is in such a bad position to continue on with Itanium as is.Mar 04 18:16
gnufreexBut they are busted if they stop it.Mar 04 18:17
gnufreexThere is lot of VMS shopsMar 04 18:17
cubezzzI thought HP was doing OK?Mar 04 18:17
gnufreexThey are ok financiallyMar 04 18:17
cubezzzone of the most successful tech companiesMar 04 18:17
Ziomatrixgnufreex: only from the service end then. They can just slowly migrate it to AMD x86-64 systemsMar 04 18:17
gnufreexBut they don't have much credibilityMar 04 18:18
gnufreexAs long term solutionMar 04 18:18
gnufreexAnd servicesMar 04 18:18
gnufreexEDS declined since HP bought itMar 04 18:18
cubezzzthey've been around a whileMar 04 18:18
cubezzzhmmmMar 04 18:18
cubezzzI'm not saying I personally like HP nowMar 04 18:18
cubezzzI liked them more in the pastMar 04 18:18
gnufreexThey gutted two CPUs for Itanium, now if they gut itanium, nobody will beleive them anymore.Mar 04 18:20
gnufreexIf they roll out ARM server tomorow, nobody will buy itMar 04 18:20
ZiomatrixI am tempted to snatch up any pre-owned Envy 14s with Radiance displays, but I read they still have a few hurdles before becoming completely GNU/Linux Compatible. Mar 04 18:20
Ziomatrixgnufreex: which is why the only option is to become primarily remote client and vertical service oriented aka cloud or what many here call fog computing. With WebOS and other acquisition it seems HP is aiming to become a bigger RIM.Mar 04 18:21
cubezzzI got this old Phillips but it's quite a versatile monitorMar 04 18:22
cubezzzhas the old composite inputs as well as vgaMar 04 18:22
Ziomatrixcubezzz: whats its resolution?Mar 04 18:22
cubezzzhmmm, not sure let me check the model #Mar 04 18:22
Ziomatrixits always a bummer when you feel you have to buy a new monitor since its one of the costliest parts of the system for the least return if it ends up being a poor model.Mar 04 18:23
cubezzzpb7402Mar 04 18:23
cubezzzI could run a c64 on this thing :)Mar 04 18:24
Ziomatrixcubezzz: wait this is a color monitor correct?Mar 04 18:25
cubezzzyesMar 04 18:25
cubezzzPhillips /Magvx 17-Inch Model 107B Display w/SpeakersMar 04 18:26
cubezzz0.24mm H Dot Pitch/1280 x 1024 Max Res.Mar 04 18:26
cubezzznot bad, considering how old it isMar 04 18:26
Ziomatrixgnufreex: it seems HP is focusing more enterprise software, I wouldn't be surprised if they settle on selling AMD databases in the future.Mar 04 18:26
gnufreexZiomatrix: AMD databases?Mar 04 18:26
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I meant AMD x86-64 hardware Mar 04 18:27
gnufreexohMar 04 18:27
cubezzzamd is OKMar 04 18:27
gnufreexAMD is ok, but I  think x86 stinksMar 04 18:27
cubezzzZiomatrix, I could use it for Amiga as ellMar 04 18:28
cubezzzgnufreex, no argumentMar 04 18:28
gnufreexI would take even Itanium over it.Mar 04 18:28
cubezzzI'll probably buy some really old computers just to run some old softwareMar 04 18:28
cubezzzas wellMar 04 18:28
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cubezzzpeople are dumping their CRTsMar 04 18:29
cubezzzso I'm cleaning up :)Mar 04 18:29
gnufreexAMD had MIPS CPUs, shame they didn't make anything out of it.Mar 04 18:29
Ziomatrixcubezzz: btw, have you read about progress on the Amiga OS4.2 X1000?Mar 04 18:29
gnufreexThey sold it to RazaMar 04 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Dirty tricks & WikiLeaks: 'Watergate' has been privatized: http://is.gd/26cYLe !wlMar 04 18:29
gnufreexThey also had Spansion FlashMar 04 18:29
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gnufreexThey spined it offMar 04 18:29
cubezzzZiomatrix, last I heard the beta testers were still waiting for hardwareMar 04 18:29
gnufreexNow Intel makes killing from SSDsMar 04 18:29
cubezzzthere are lots of amiga 1200's NOS floating around tooMar 04 18:30
cubezzzif you want out of x86 land ;)Mar 04 18:30
Ziomatrixgnufreex: AMD did a lot of wrong moves in the struggle to chase after Intel on their platform. But at the end of the day they're still the 2nd or 3rd largest semiconductor maker, if you don't count they spun off their foundries. Mar 04 18:30
gnufreexThey are not 2ndMar 04 18:31
gnufreexSamsung is biggerMar 04 18:31
Ziomatrixcubezzz: also MorphOS is compatible with most G4 PowerPCs now.Mar 04 18:31
gnufreexthere are lots of bigger onesMar 04 18:31
gnufreexFreescaleMar 04 18:31
gnufreexTIMar 04 18:31
cubezzzhmmm, morphOS is closed source though yes?Mar 04 18:31
Ziomatrixgnufreex: they still don't have much if any market penetration in the PC market, considering non went head first into x86Mar 04 18:32
*cubezzz contemplates c64 with Compact Flash Mar 04 18:32
gnufreexNone of those have x86 CPUsMar 04 18:32
Ziomatrixcubezzz: both Morph OS and Amiga OS4 are.Mar 04 18:32
gnufreexIf you mean x86, then it is all Intel AMD and VIA. ZiomatrixMar 04 18:33
Ziomatrixgnufreex: exactly Mar 04 18:33
cubezzzI kind of miss the instant on days of c64's and commodore BASICMar 04 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Colombian armed forces collaborated with neo-paramilitaries http://is.gd/MZLGDw !wlMar 04 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Serial Deceit of Pentagon Spokesman, Geoff Morrell | Salon http://is.gd/eYjhTH !wlMar 04 18:39
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Ziomatrixgnufreex: can you see ARM making a big return to PCs at some point?Mar 04 18:39
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gnufreexZiomatrix: I hope, but they are not getting serious.Mar 04 18:42
Ziomatrixcubezzz: have you looked into AROS lately, they released an updated ICAROS suite: http://bit.ly/2C020Mar 04 18:42
gnufreexTheir CEO says they won't make 64-bit extentsion any time soon. ZiomatrixMar 04 18:42
gnufreexZiomatrix: I know I wouldn't buy 32-bit ARM desktopMar 04 18:43
gnufreexI would like MIPS64 insteadMar 04 18:43
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I thought ARM bit configuration wasn't able to easily enable 64 bit and in fact the next logical step would be 48?Mar 04 18:43
gnufreexNo, Marvell ArmadaXP has 40bit extension which is a klugde Mar 04 18:43
gnufreexlike PAEMar 04 18:43
gnufreexAll others are 32-bitMar 04 18:44
gnufreexIn fact, Armada is also 32bitMar 04 18:44
Ziomatrixgnufreex: any large businesses support MIPs still? Even Sony dumped MIPs for ARM in the NGP.Mar 04 18:44
gnufreexJust it has PAEMar 04 18:44
gnufreexThere areMar 04 18:44
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gnufreexThere is Cavium NetworksMar 04 18:44
gnufreexThey make network systems with homebrew MIPS chippsMar 04 18:44
gnufreexand they are doing pretty wellMar 04 18:45
gnufreexThere is Red China's Godson projectMar 04 18:45
gnufreexStallman uses their laptopMar 04 18:45
gnufreexThere was SiCortex supercomputer makerMar 04 18:45
gnufreexbut they went bust recentlyMar 04 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mourihno escapes knife attack? #RealMadrid fans do take their #football seriously http://tighturl.com/2zi1Mar 04 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you are on #facebook feel free to 'Like' my updated 'Inconstant Moon' #fb page... but please, don't sign up for #fb on on my account :DMar 04 18:46
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gnufreexThre is few other companies, I forgot namesMar 04 18:46
gnufreexTilera has it's own ISA, but it is promising.Mar 04 18:47
gnufreexMore so than ARM serversMar 04 18:47
gnufreexARM have no chance in servers if doesn't make 64-bit fastMar 04 18:47
Ziomatrixgnufreex: did SiCortex keep to the MIPs open standard?Mar 04 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Labout thought they bought #Scotland with devolution, that we'd give them a lifetime run, they didn't expect us to actually not chose themMar 04 18:47
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gnufreexZiomatrix: I think yesMar 04 18:47
Ziomatrixgnufreex: thats good, maybe HP can pick that up :-PMar 04 18:48
gnufreexZiomatrix: But they added few instructions for easier parallelism, IIRCMar 04 18:48
Ziomatrixgnufreex: of course, I wonder if some company is still vying to pick up the IP for cheap, hopefully no patent trolls.Mar 04 18:48
gnufreexUnfortunately, SiCortex went on auction. ZiomatrixMar 04 18:49
gnufreexMaybe some troll got themMar 04 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Labour evenMar 04 18:49
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I'm looking into an article on how they may have sold some of their assets to Intel already :-(Mar 04 18:50
gnufreexUhMar 04 18:50
gnufreexThat is teribleMar 04 18:50
gnufreexWorse than patent trollMar 04 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Personal Resolution: I will upload the *final* draft of Inconstant Moon to @CreateSpace on Sunday Night !SelfPub !NaNoWriMo !mynovelMar 04 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Libyan internet offline for 12 hours and counting: http://bit.ly/eo1KRZMar 04 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jimmorgan look at @laurelrusswurm blog on facebook privacy! DO IT NOW! http://ur1.ca/3dyzqMar 04 18:51
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gnufreexPatent troll might run out of money during suing.Mar 04 18:51
gnufreexIntel wontMar 04 18:51
Ziomatrixgnufreex: nvm, it was a Q&A with the former CEO and his take on Intel's monopoly Mar 04 18:51
Ziomatrixits a nice read to show to people who thing x86 is the only relatively open ended platform to support: http://bit.ly/imPqTMar 04 18:52
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Ziomatrixok I stand corrected not the CEO, more like lead designer and creative engineer.Mar 04 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sweet11/@sweet11] Somos como una prostituta que por un estadio, olvidamos por completo los derechos humanos. #wikileakscr http://ur1.ca/3dz02 !cr !news !wlMar 04 18:54
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Ziomatrixalso SiCortex went bust from the VCs who pledged to support them pull out on their accredited duties due to "economic conditions" despite the company was growing and fast then its earnings to keep up (probably in part due to those VCs giving them a false sense of fiscal security): http://bit.ly/18vkAYMar 04 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a cartoon of a company selling "mortgages on cardboard boxes" would illustrate the economic climate rather nicely methinks #politicsMar 04 18:58
gnufreexZiomatrix: Yeah, I have read that.Mar 04 18:59
gnufreexVCs chickened outMar 04 18:59
gnufreexThey would be profitable now.Mar 04 19:00
gnufreex*by nowMar 04 19:00
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I wouldn't be surprised if they were encouraged by them to grow their assets past their net income.Mar 04 19:00
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I guess you can call it the pre-Recession way, now for post-Recession think its that companies should not loan money to anyone but those with a AAA credit rating and were bailed out by tax payers or those with sky high shares.Mar 04 19:02
MinceRif they had to be bailed out, why do they get to keep their AAA rating?Mar 04 19:03
MinceRthat doesn't make senseMar 04 19:03
gnufreexTilera nearly got out of bussiness too, but they made a marketing push to pre-anonounce next CPU so investors bought in and provided some cash. Mar 04 19:03
gnufreexAnd Tilera is also growing company.Mar 04 19:03
Ziomatrixgnufreex: its an excuse for large corporations to act in the interests that were always right and for any policy that can create competition is fiscally irresponsible Mar 04 19:03
MinceRunless of course their control over the government is great enough to guarantee unlimited bailouts for themselvesMar 04 19:03
ZiomatrixMinceR: welcome to a well oiled and lobbied political machine that goes hand in hand with large hedge firms that helps spread the bank's reserves.Mar 04 19:04
MinceR:>Mar 04 19:04
gnufreexIt would be funny time for capitalism zealots if Chinese Godson takes down IntelMar 04 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: JavaScript - Introduction to Forms: http://bit.ly/eCUYljMar 04 19:06
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ZiomatrixMinceR: bigger companies can move more money around that helps hide how much currency has actually been produced to stave off the apparent effects of stagflation. Mar 04 19:06
gnufreexIt takes communist goverment to pump money into tech to repair market from US style capitalism that leads to monopolism.Mar 04 19:06
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I doubt it, the Godson or Longson as its called in the states is property of the PRC and is designed to cater to their domestic market. I don't see them putting effort into making a splash abroad and would probably cooperate to limit sales of such so no homebrew efforts are made.Mar 04 19:07
MinceRthe government of red china is communist only in advertisementsMar 04 19:07
ZiomatrixMinceR:  but its still fiercely protectionistMar 04 19:08
Ziomatrixgnufreex: I would call what the US has is more akin to capital cronie-ism.Mar 04 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Life is in alpha--Killing the myth of the open source failure | http://bit.ly/gKr6Jy #sourceforgeMar 04 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US state-corporate censorship of Al Jazeera is a disgrace to US founding values and must stop http://is.gd/DfD6y3 !wlMar 04 19:09
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gnufreexZiomatrix: I think they have no interest to do that.Mar 04 19:09
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66097128Mar 04 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Sarven Capadisli (csarven)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 18:02:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It is not necessarily either or. Free Market Capitalism can sell land and clean air in the future as a product along with oil.Mar 04 19:09
gnufreexMore sales are better.Mar 04 19:09
Ziomatrixgnufreex: what if it means cracking open careful measures in their walled-garden concerning electronic information policy?Mar 04 19:10
gnufreexDoubt they will put that in CPUMar 04 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Welcome @michaellarabel to Twitter!Mar 04 19:11
gnufreexit is more effective if it is in chipsetMar 04 19:11
gnufreexUS motherboards can come without itMar 04 19:11
Ziomatrixgnufreex: if you think a multi-national corporation like $ony went ape-crap when it came to homebrew taking a bite of their closed media eco-system imagine a government that wants an overall closed information system?Mar 04 19:11
Ziomatrixgnufreex: true, maybe if other CPUs are made to work in the same socketMar 04 19:12
gnufreexZiomatrix: Stallman already uses Godson http://freedomincluded.com/Mar 04 19:12
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schestowitzWowMar 04 19:12
Ziomatrixanyway I g2g, thanks for the chat Mar 04 19:12
schestowitzPhoronix' Larabel joined Twitter and I'm the only person he follows :-)Mar 04 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 US state-corporate censorship of Al Jazeera is a disgrace to US founding values and must stop http://is.gd/DfD6y3 !wlMar 04 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj Six Things Social Networking Sites Need to Stop Doing (Cracked): http://bit.ly/igZwDAMar 04 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @bkuhn I am becoming increasingly convinced that if your #FLOSS project needs a "Community Manager" or similar position, it's in trouble.Mar 04 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @wikileaks2 Is Bradley Manning being treated like a Guantanamo detainee? http://alturl.com/gnsdd !wl < sounds WORSE #freeBradleyMar 04 19:21
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gnufreexThis is interestingMar 04 19:21
gnufreexhttp://www.bigncomputing.org/Big_N_Computing/Big_N_Computing/Entries/2009/5/27_SiCortex.htmlMar 04 19:21
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gnufreex"First, it is possible for a small company to compete in the computer systems business. There are some who will say that nobody can compete against “commodity manufacturers.”  Ignore them: they are either shills for “commodity manufacturers” or they just don’t understand the landscape.  There are only two true commodities in the computer business: DRAMs and wafer area. Everybody pretty much pays the same price forMar 04 19:22
gnufreex DRAMs. Wafer area is what you make of it. If you insist on building giant 100W chips, life will be tough. But if you use the silicon wafer area for something new, different, and efficient, a market will open up to you."Mar 04 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In the case of Ubuntu and OpenSUSE "Community manager" usually feels like "public relations". Not sure about Paul in Fedora; he's hardcore.Mar 04 19:22
schestowitzgnufreex: what about it then?Mar 04 19:23
gnufreexI liked the quote.Mar 04 19:23
gnufreex"There are some who will say that nobody can compete against “commodity manufacturers.”  Ignore them: they are either shills for “commodity manufacturers” or they just don’t understand the landscape."Mar 04 19:23
gnufreexThat specific part.Mar 04 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Public relations, marketing, billing, 'analysts' etc. are the cost of doing *real* work with *real* employees; Sad the world works like thisMar 04 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Profile on WikiLeaks' Kristinn Hrafnsson | SMH http://is.gd/lGjn2i !wlMar 04 19:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/43751296246886400Mar 04 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distributions that promote 'Trusted' Computing become harder to trust (by users)Mar 04 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 444 Election Day disaster strikes. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #fantasy #Minis #worthreadingMar 04 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Matt Asay Backs Up the Wahmbulance - http://bit.ly/dXB4ME slightly cruel, but with the correct punch-line: "Open source will be fine."Mar 04 19:32
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gnufreexHahahaMar 04 19:33
gnufreexWahambulanceMar 04 19:33
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MinceRwaaaaghmbulanceMar 04 19:35
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gnufreexwaaaMar 04 19:35
gnufreexSomebody call the waaambulanceMar 04 19:35
gnufreexMac has a seizure of FOSS bashingMar 04 19:36
gnufreexMicrosoftitisMar 04 19:36
MinceRif this is a case for the waaambulance then he needs to be a the hospital continuouslyMar 04 19:37
MinceRat the Intensive Crying UnitMar 04 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 3.6.15 compatibility update now available http://mzl.la/hSivb7Mar 04 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lofgren Challenges IP Czar On Legality Of Domain Seizures - http://bit.ly/dQ2zWv "really stunning is Espinel's deer-in-headlights reaction"Mar 04 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @safeworld4women: #Egypt: Constitutional Amendments Exclude Women Candidates for Presidential Elections http://t.co/hSTKb54Mar 04 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @harishpillay New #Fedora SIG on Trusted Computing - sign up here: [...] // what is TPM? http://ur1.ca/3dzjwMar 04 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Matt Asay Backs Up the Wahmbulance - http://bit.ly/dXB4ME slightly cruel, but with the correct punch-line << quite trueMar 04 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tablets' rise knocks HDD shipments http://ur1.ca/3dzng good for #linux and for desktop... well, not so much. #formfactorMar 04 19:39
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GoForbes28Roy!!Mar 04 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve Jobs mocks Linux, calls it "copycat"? http://ur1.ca/3dzny "We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas." --Steve Jobs #lolMar 04 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #heute.de: #AuswärtigesAmt: Ministerium will keine freie Software !fs mehr nutzen #bundesleaks !fsfe http://ur1.ca/3dznuMar 04 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jezra Porting some Vala gstreamer code to Ruby. It would probably be easier to just start from scratch. << can you compile scratch? :-)Mar 04 19:42
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schestowitzGoForbes28: HiMar 04 19:43
GoForbes28I have a bone to pick with you!! How dare you present honesty and kindness to a debate?!!Mar 04 19:44
schestowitzSorry, I was intoxicatedMar 04 19:44
GoForbes28hahaMar 04 19:44
GoForbes28How is it going?Mar 04 19:45
schestowitzActually, I must unload a rantMar 04 19:45
schestowitzAn hour ago in the car I had an argumentMar 04 19:45
GoForbes28to techrights or here?Mar 04 19:45
GoForbes28ok hereMar 04 19:45
GoForbes28continue pleaseMar 04 19:45
schestowitzIt's about ability to persuade people by overloading them with information that's new to themMar 04 19:45
schestowitzI was told I cover too many topics at once, which puts me at perilMar 04 19:45
schestowitzWhen it comes to educating people who are "cubed"Mar 04 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Americas) Peter Kent was lobbied by Canadian Petroleum Products Institute on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/e1L7tlMar 04 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to Canadian Petroleum for advising Peter Kent. We need more such advice from #BP too, because #bpcares . Thank Kent for having ears.Mar 04 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter ♻ @lobbywatcher Min. of State (Americas) Peter Kent was lobbied by Canadian Boreal Initiative on Feb 15 http://bit.ly/dNEiVKMar 04 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why is Plan B for Android Better Than "Find My iPhone?" - http://rww.to/e3kh1N "you can install this app after your phone goes missing": wowMar 04 19:46
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schestowitzI guess I could see the pointMar 04 19:46
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schestowitzBut I told him that the second time they'll hard the same thing they'll tolerate the new information betterMar 04 19:46
schestowitzPeople are suspicious of things they are not used to hearingMar 04 19:46
GoForbes28told who?Mar 04 19:46
schestowitzAnd I'm talking here about the sorts of people who watch Big BrotherMar 04 19:46
schestowitzVery, very, people-centric mindsMar 04 19:47
schestowitzThey know what s/he said/done/gossipedMar 04 19:47
schestowitzAnd their mind is also occupies with phone #sMar 04 19:47
schestowitz*ppiedMar 04 19:47
GoForbes28In other words, their minds are filled with a whole lot of gunkMar 04 19:49
GoForbes28or as ConfusedMatthew would say, "NOTHING"Mar 04 19:49
GoForbes28But who were you talking to?Mar 04 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] World First from Saab: Saab IQon - Open Innovation in Car Infotainment http://ur1.ca/3dzq9 #saab + #linux = quality. Got drivers?Mar 04 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley #Manning 'forced to sleep naked' - http://bit.ly/hCAd2g "due to a "situationally driven" event": what??? shame on you, AmericaMar 04 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay #Fedora says "Thank You". Send your SASE and get Fedora stickers and case badges in return. [...]. http://ur1.ca/3dkf1Mar 04 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First migration of #Greek Public Organization to Free Software - http://bit.ly/h9S4a5 long Microsoft stronghold; let's hope it's 1st of manyMar 04 19:51
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: GR: First migration of a Greek Public Organization to Free Software — .::. Size~: 31.3 KBMar 04 19:51
schestowitzGoForbes28: someone you don't knowMar 04 19:51
schestowitzAbout my ageMar 04 19:51
schestowitzHe annoys me sometimesMar 04 19:51
schestowitzI'm patient and calmMar 04 19:51
schestowitzBut some people can't beMar 04 19:51
schestowitzThey think they can be more "right" by being more "loud"Mar 04 19:52
schestowitzI tell them, it's not a shouting matchMar 04 19:52
GoForbes28Or a Bill O'Reilly interviewMar 04 19:52
schestowitzI also tell him, in a debate, he who yells/scream loses in the minds of the audienceMar 04 19:52
schestowitzGoForbes28: exactly!Mar 04 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on my tests at work, #Fedora 14 and #LinuxMint 10 are the distros to beat right now. Top quality!Mar 04 19:52
schestowitzI love seeing thoseMar 04 19:52
schestowitzIt's painfulMar 04 19:52
schestowitzSeeing how Bill threatens to kick them off the stage, literallyMar 04 19:53
schestowitzHe tries to intimidate those who diaagree with himMar 04 19:53
schestowitz"No spin" zoneMar 04 19:53
schestowitzSounds like something from the Royal RumbleMar 04 19:53
schestowitzAnd to make matters worse... Fox clips out what's unflaterring to BillMar 04 19:53
schestowitzIt's just a propaganda channelMar 04 19:54
schestowitzWould be illegal in many countriesMar 04 19:54
schestowitzYour nation Canada is right now fighting against itMar 04 19:54
schestowitzI posted a dent about this in the morningMar 04 19:54
MinceR205045 < schestowitz> "No spin" zoneMar 04 19:54
MinceRHiggs bosons onlyMar 04 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 233 dents!Mar 04 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @phoronix Open-Source AMD Cayman GPU KMS Support [...] http://bit.ly/gQoG6o << #AMD coming along. #atiMar 04 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Open-Source AMD Cayman GPU KMS Support .::. Size~: 18.47 KBMar 04 19:56
GoForbes28yepMar 04 19:57
GoForbes28Sun TV Fox NewsMar 04 19:57
GoForbes28And coincidently, a CRTC provision to allow for untrue news was introduced around the same timeMar 04 19:57
schestowitzYesMar 04 19:58
GoForbes28totally coincidentalMar 04 19:58
schestowitzI don't know much about it, but I knew about CRTC since latest kerkuffleMar 04 19:58
schestowitzMinceR: I don't get itMar 04 19:58
schestowitz!google Higgs bosons Mar 04 19:58
GoForbes28CRTC = Former telecom employees + Inept moronsMar 04 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Higgs boson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_bosonMar 04 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Origins: CERN: The Higgs Boson Particle | Exploratorium | http://www.exploratorium.edu/origins/cern/ideas/higgs.htmlMar 04 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Higgs Boson: One page explanation | http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy400w/particle/higgs.htmMar 04 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What is Higgs boson – and will CERN scientists find the 'God ... | http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/0330/What-is-Higgs-boson-and-will-CERN-scientists-find-the-God-particleMar 04 19:58
MinceRafaik those are the only elementary particles expected to have a spin of 0Mar 04 19:59
GoForbes28I loved the Colbert interview on O'ReillyMar 04 19:59
*schestowitz LOLs @ '[19:58] <TechrightsBot-tr> [4] - What is Higgs boson ? and will CERN scientists find the 'God ... 'Mar 04 19:59
MinceRGoForbes28: url?Mar 04 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] /me finds self increasingly relying more on identica+twitter for news than on RSS feeds. Anyone else on same boat?Mar 04 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus. Writing a script is harder than one would think...Mar 04 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh what for?Mar 04 19:59
GoForbes28because he basically disarmed Or'eilly by not acting like an idiotMar 04 19:59
schestowitzMinceR: remember:Mar 04 19:59
MinceRi find the ban on untrue news problematic, btwMar 04 19:59
schestowitzCERN+LHC=GodMar 04 19:59
GoForbes28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QquTUR9nbC4Mar 04 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Stephen Colbert on The O'Reilly Factor .::. Size~: 113.11 KBMar 04 19:59
schestowitzThe creationist propagandaMar 04 19:59
MinceRGoForbes28: thxMar 04 20:00
schestowitzGoForbes28: he didMar 04 20:00
schestowitzHe did wellMar 04 20:00
schestowitzI saw that oneMar 04 20:00
GoForbes28Besides, in Canada we arlready have CTVMar 04 20:00
schestowitzhe alos flattered BillMar 04 20:00
GoForbes28Isn't that "Right" enough?Mar 04 20:00
schestowitzIn a channel watched by beer-drinking homophobesMar 04 20:00
GoForbes28I wouldn't say thatMar 04 20:00
schestowitzBut watch the one with StewartMar 04 20:00
schestowitzThere's a version where you see the full interviewMar 04 20:00
GoForbes28He secretly criticized himMar 04 20:00
schestowitzAnd then watch they cut outMar 04 20:00
schestowitzAll the criticism of Bill cut outMar 04 20:01
schestowitzDisgusting, appallingMar 04 20:01
GoForbes28Yep, seen both the old one, and the post-Sanity event one as wellMar 04 20:01
schestowitzWe remove the facts, you decideMar 04 20:01
*zoobab has quit (*.net *.split)Mar 04 20:01
schestowitzUnfair and unbalancedMar 04 20:01
GoForbes28Fox News also used footage of California violent protest to represent Wisconcin recentlyMar 04 20:01
schestowitzGoForbes28: there's one that mish-mashes using brightness levelMar 04 20:01
schestowitzTo see how it was 'edited'Mar 04 20:02
GoForbes28YeahMar 04 20:02
schestowitzCensored is a better wordMar 04 20:02
schestowitzGoForbes28: yes, the fake protest footageMar 04 20:02
schestowitzThey also show Arabs strutting around with RPGsMar 04 20:02
schestowitzTo breed fear and hateMar 04 20:02
GoForbes28You know, the CoS also did the same to a BBC report where they increased the volume of the reported yellingMar 04 20:02
schestowitzIMHO, part of Murdoch's agendaMar 04 20:02
schestowitzInciating hatredMar 04 20:02
schestowitz*incitingMar 04 20:02
GoForbes28Fortunately, Canadians for the most part can't watch it without needing to take a showerMar 04 20:03
schestowitzOr joke at itMar 04 20:03
GoForbes28yepMar 04 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Have you ever wondered why people don't help with your #FOSS project? Mel Chua chimes in | http://bit.ly/hYcH7o #communityMar 04 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Stage play.Mar 04 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I can't bake croissants: a fable on project documentation | opensource.com .::. Size~: 54.08 KBMar 04 20:04
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66105807Mar 04 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr@osvaldo (osvaldo)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 19:43:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz :-D Many sm gurus pretend a decade of forums, newsgroups and IRC never existed. There's more social media than fbook & twitterMar 04 20:04
schestowitzIndeedMar 04 20:04
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66106725Mar 04 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 19:56:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I never relied on rss feeds, actuallyMar 04 20:04
GoForbes28CBC News looks 100% perfect by comparisonMar 04 20:05
GoForbes28Hell, CTV looks tolerableMar 04 20:05
GoForbes28Or should I say BTVMar 04 20:05
GoForbes28for BellMar 04 20:05
MinceRrotfl, Colbert still rulesMar 04 20:05
schestowitzthey (RSS feeds) give one the urge to keep up, a bit like E-mail. Streams from my friends on identica & twitter are lighter.Mar 04 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @harishpillay Lol. RT @Fake_PMLee: iPad 2 is out, 1 year after iPad 1. Goes to show the Apple menstruation cycle is 1 year. #iPad2Mar 04 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk they (RSS feeds) give one the urge to keep up, a bit like E-mail. Streams from my friends on identica & twitter are lighter.Mar 04 20:06
schestowitzMinceR: yes, he's goodMar 04 20:06
schestowitz!google lessig at colbertMar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Lawrence Lessig - The Colbert Report - 1/8/09 - Video Clip ... | http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/215454/january-08-2009/lawrence-lessigMar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Lawrence Lessig on Colbert Report Tonight - Creative Commons | https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/12008Mar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Colbert is mad (Lessig Blog) | http://www.lessig.org/blog/2009/01/colbert_is_mad.htmlMar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Lawrence Lessig on Colbert tonight | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/lawrence-lessig-on-colbert-tonight.arsMar 04 20:06
schestowitz!google greenwald at colbertMar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Corporate Hacker Tries to Take Down WikiLeaks - Glenn Greenwald ... | http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/375429/february-24-2011/corporate-hacker-tries-to-take-down-wikileaks---glenn-greenwaldMar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Robert Greenwald - The Colbert Report - 10/16/08 - Video Clip ... | http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/188606/october-16-2008/robert-greenwaldMar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Glenn Greenwald on Colbert Talking WikiLeaks, Corporate Hackers ... | http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/485842/glenn_greenwald_on_colbert_talking_wikileaks,_corporate_hackers/Mar 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - AMERICAblog News: Greenwald on Colbert talks Anonymous (Colbert ... | http://www.americablog.com/2011/02/greenwald-on-colbert-talks-anonymous.htmlMar 04 20:06
GoForbes28Canadian link?Mar 04 20:06
schestowitzOh.Mar 04 20:06
MinceRand ORLY is as stupid as ever :DMar 04 20:06
schestowitzUS-only, still?Mar 04 20:06
GoForbes28Fuck you Bell and your stupid Flash Player setup!!Mar 04 20:06
schestowitzMinceR gave me links in the other channel which were not zone-restricted like Stewart's showMar 04 20:07
GoForbes28Yeah, Bell's setup in Canada is so convuluted it's insaneMar 04 20:07
schestowitzIt's called HellMar 04 20:07
schestowitzBHellMar 04 20:07
MinceRschestowitz: it is us-onlyMar 04 20:07
MinceRbut i use a usian proxy to view itMar 04 20:07
GoForbes28Thank goodness for Teksavvy, the god of indie ISPsMar 04 20:07
schestowitzDHell is not so good, eitherMar 04 20:07
MinceRnew the beginning of this year, it was globally available, then suddenly it went us-onlyMar 04 20:07
schestowitzAnd SHell kills NigeriansMar 04 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mmasnick Cindy Cohn asks Lofgren: what can Silicon Valley do to stop pols from legislating internet away. Answer: Speak up. #htli >>yesMar 04 20:07
MinceRwell, it might work in the ukMar 04 20:08
MinceRwhat i know is that it refuses to play in hungaryMar 04 20:08
schestowitzOrban has better media for youMar 04 20:08
schestowitzHe got it all figured outMar 04 20:08
MinceRlolMar 04 20:08
schestowitzKing ViKtor K00KMar 04 20:08
MinceRhe can stick it where the sun doesn't shineMar 04 20:08
schestowitzLots of K. Oops :-|Mar 04 20:09
MinceRas for the proxy thing, http://nntime.com/ and foxyproxy are a nice comboMar 04 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fresh Proxy List. Sorted by Proxy Anonymity. Page 1 .::. Size~: 20.41 KBMar 04 20:09
schestowitzMinceR: which sun?Mar 04 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ex-UK spy boss says #WikiLeaks sparked Egyptian revolution - http://bit.ly/hZXWj8 "I would definitely draw parallels" #egyptMar 04 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-UK spy boss says WikiLeaks sparked Egyptian revolution • The Register .::. Size~: 22.65 KBMar 04 20:09
MinceRthe one this planet orbitsMar 04 20:09
schestowitzThe photos get almost everywhereMar 04 20:09
schestowitzIn measurable dosesMar 04 20:10
schestowitzAlthough you may have to accumulate them over a long period of time to pick up enoug signalMar 04 20:10
*GoForbes28 is making popcorn.Mar 04 20:10
schestowitzGood gameMar 04 20:10
schestowitzWhat P/L?Mar 04 20:10
schestowitzAnd what's the deadline?Mar 04 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Eastern Panther is Extinct - http://gaw.kr/fG4XFM humanity FTW; yeah, right...Mar 04 20:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gawker — Today's gossip is tomorrow's news .::. Size~: 55.41 KBMar 04 20:11
MinceRanother way to describe the place i meant the hungarian dictator to put his media can be seen in the last panel >> http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0777.htmlMar 04 20:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Giant In the Playground Games .::. Size~: 7.31 KBMar 04 20:11
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XosC_dU12FkMar 04 20:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Popcorn video game for the Color Computer. .::. Size~: 109.42 KBMar 04 20:12
schestowitzMinceR: send him down a wormholeMar 04 20:12
schestowitzno light scapes itMar 04 20:12
schestowitzgravity too highMar 04 20:12
MinceR:>Mar 04 20:12
schestowitz"@Emma_A: Protocol on the Rights of Women in Africa http://t.co/ZGUvMPm Support EqualityNow #Opemmaa #Anonymiss #Anonymous Togetherforever"Mar 04 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Protocol on the Rights of Women in Africa .::. Size~: 21.08 KBMar 04 20:14
schestowitzAnonymissMar 04 20:14
schestowitzmelikesMar 04 20:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/safeworld4women/status/43764168712658944Mar 04 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr@safeworld4women: @schestowitz Thank you so much for the Rt :)Mar 04 20:15
schestowitzMy pleasureMar 04 20:15
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66107791Mar 04 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 20:11:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No but did you carry out your experiment to try without RSS for a while?Mar 04 20:15
schestowitzI never got 100% off RSS since 2004Mar 04 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter RT @thetecheye: “No passion in the world is equal to the passion to alter someone's draft” - HG Wells #quoteMar 04 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Ex-UK spy boss says #WikiLeaks sparked Egyptian revolution - http://bit.ly/hZXWj8 "I would definitely draw parallels" #egyptMar 04 20:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-UK spy boss says WikiLeaks sparked Egyptian revolution • The Register .::. Size~: 22.65 KBMar 04 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Emma_A: RT @Pirata13: OPERATION ANONYMISS Gentlemen, tell your girlfriends/wives/sisters/mothers, that we protect... http://tl.gd/92iiknMar 04 20:17
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schestowitzRight now I'm just waiting for sites I read closely, e.g. phoronix , to move feeds to identica (no Groklaw, yet). Easier to share dents then RSS feeds with friends...Mar 04 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ex-UK spy boss says WikiLeaks sparked Egyptian revolution http://alturl.com/qj4yz !wlMar 04 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Commitment to Open (Red Hat News) http://lwn.net/Articles/431275/rssMar 04 20:19
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GoForbes28Why doesn't anonymous like Jon Stewart again?Mar 04 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya , So many people just can't wait to intervene in this civil war militarily on the side of the Libyan governments opponents.Mar 04 20:21
GoForbes28At least ED gives me that impressionMar 04 20:21
schestowitzLOL http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2168&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+smbc-comics%2FPvLb+%28Saturday+Morning+Breakfast+Cereal+%28updated+daily%29%29Mar 04 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-UK spy boss says WikiLeaks sparked Egyptian revolution • The Register .::. Size~: 22.65 KBMar 04 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Commitment to Open (Red Hat News) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.37 KBMar 04 20:21
schestowitzNot like him?Mar 04 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal .::. Size~: 19.53 KBMar 04 20:21
schestowitzMaybe he doesn't advice people to stick their penis in a hornet's nestMar 04 20:22
schestowitz*adviseMar 04 20:22
GoForbes28I meant,, the ED page for him isn't exactly glowing with praiseMar 04 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Week With OpenBenchmarking.org: OpenBenchmarking.org has now been live for just under one week since launching... http://bit.ly/hAx9PmMar 04 20:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A Week With OpenBenchmarking.org .::. Size~: 18.5 KBMar 04 20:22
schestowitzED?Mar 04 20:23
GoForbes28Encyclopedia DramaticaMar 04 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning: America's Dreyfus Case http://is.gd/6AY0KH !wlMar 04 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: America's Dreyfus Case .::. Size~: 141.68 KBMar 04 20:24
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66108354Mar 04 20:26
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 20:20:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They will get there. Those two should certainly be on Identi.ca.Mar 04 20:26
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schestowitzGroklaw has a twitter account, but it's unmanned (or unwomanned) and probably a reader's effort to watch up when their RSS brokeMar 04 20:27
schestowitzHey, seller_liarMar 04 20:27
schestowitzLong time...Mar 04 20:27
schestowitzA lot of returnees recentlyMar 04 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nsisodiya Book : Introduction to Free Software and Open Standards - http://ur1.ca/3dzy3 #FOSS #Linux #OpenStandardsMar 04 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gbraad has #theSteve already lost it? The iPad2 is merely an improvement... http://is.gd/kThzzm http://is.gd/W1rrzBMar 04 20:27
schestowitzWallclimber, tacone, neighborlee...Mar 04 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FTA - The concepts of Free Software and Open Standards | FTA - Free Technology Academy .::. Size~: 9.63 KBMar 04 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: iPad 2 vs. original iPad: what's changed? -- Engadget .::. Size~: 67.59 KBMar 04 20:27
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schestowitzAll except Linu*** trollsMar 04 20:28
seller_liarschestowitz:hello royMar 04 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What Americans really think of Kibaki and Raila | Daily Nation http://is.gd/AnbSje !wlMar 04 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Nation: - Politics |What Americans really think of Kibaki and Raila .::. Size~: 41.84 KBMar 04 20:29
seller_liarschestowitz: To stop simple,stupid patents,someone must create a site called openideaMar 04 20:30
seller_liarPeople think a idea  and publish on siteMar 04 20:31
seller_liarIt helps to destroy stupid patents like double clickMar 04 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementer Feedback on XML Security 1.1 Specifications http://ow.ly/1bCjTsMar 04 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Patent Advisory Group for XML Signature and XML Encryption http://ow.ly/1bCjTtMar 04 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gbraad #theSteve is so #1984Mar 04 20:32
MinceRi'd add a timestamp authority thereMar 04 20:32
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MinceRso you can prove the idea was published at the time it says it wasMar 04 20:33
MinceRs/add/connect/Mar 04 20:33
schestowitzthat existsMar 04 20:33
schestowitzSeveral sites like theseMar 04 20:34
schestowitzBut people don't participateMar 04 20:34
schestowitzIt's a waste of time IMHOMar 04 20:34
MinceRpeople apparently don't even know about them ;)Mar 04 20:34
schestowitzPeople want to write codeMar 04 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Operation Set-the-Record-Straight http://ur1.ca/3dzzd #assange !wikileaks #smear #pr #hbgaryMar 04 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our wonderful defenders rally for WikiLeaks in Brisbane. http://alturl.com/jqps7 !wlMar 04 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Columbia Political Review » Operation Set-the-Record-Straight .::. Size~: 32.27 KBMar 04 20:34
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schestowitzNot block others from patenting their ever line of codeMar 04 20:34
schestowitzseller_liar: MinceR and I are looking for a black hole large enough for patent lawyers and ViktorMar 04 20:35
schestowitzThe problem is, locating black holes is hard without observing nearby stars/planetsMar 04 20:35
MinceRi don't think we need a black holeMar 04 20:35
MinceRwe could just release them into the atmosphere of the earth, in a form that mostly consists of CO2 and H2OMar 04 20:35
schestowitz[20:35] <MinceR> i don't think we need a black holeMar 04 20:36
MinceRor put them down on the Moon, without suitsMar 04 20:36
schestowitzBradley Manning is in oneMar 04 20:36
schestowitz6 feet by 12 IIRCMar 04 20:36
MinceRthey killed him already?Mar 04 20:36
schestowitzchained legs, dark, can't exerciseMar 04 20:36
schestowitzMinceR: they might soonMar 04 20:36
MinceRicMar 04 20:36
schestowitzNo point to it thoughMar 04 20:36
schestowitzThey want Assange deadMar 04 20:36
schestowitzNot that this would help either because he still has some popular supportMar 04 20:36
schestowitzThey must smear him a lot more firstMar 04 20:37
seller_liarOk,but someone can use a site or a publication to prove the patent is invalid and already inventedMar 04 20:37
schestowitzbefore they can hang him like Saddan without backlashMar 04 20:37
schestowitzseller_liar: how so?Mar 04 20:37
schestowitzWhy not show the products?Mar 04 20:37
schestowitzThat's what expert witness/testimony is forMar 04 20:37
schestowitzseller_liar: tell brazil to give USPTO the middle fingerMar 04 20:38
schestowitzEasier.  Problema Solva.Mar 04 20:38
schestowitzImagine what if Iran has a USPTOMar 04 20:38
seller_liarFor example ,someone can invent a way to double click on mouse and publish on siteMar 04 20:39
schestowitzAnd then demanded that the USPTO bend over to itMar 04 20:39
schestowitzOutlandish, no?Mar 04 20:39
seller_liarthat way microsoft can t to patent stupid thing anymoreMar 04 20:39
schestowitzBury WTO and WIPO while you're at itMar 04 20:39
schestowitzRally the blind people against themMar 04 20:39
schestowitzThey already hate them enoughMar 04 20:39
schestowitzStevnie Wonder FTW!!Mar 04 20:39
seller_liarYes, but  worker party is not good anymoreMar 04 20:39
schestowitz*StevieMar 04 20:39
seller_liarDon t expect a lot of changes from Workers partyMar 04 20:40
schestowitzThey become the Businesses' prtyMar 04 20:40
schestowitz$$$ changes everythingMar 04 20:40
seller_liaryesMar 04 20:40
schestowitzThey need workers to get into position of power unless it's somewhere like the States where corporations buy the results with campign "contributions" (bribes)Mar 04 20:40
seller_liarThe big problem is ACTAMar 04 20:41
schestowitzYeahMar 04 20:41
seller_liarBrazil cant approve this crazy thingMar 04 20:41
schestowitzOf course notMar 04 20:41
schestowitzNow starts the coupMar 04 20:41
seller_liarIf Dilma approve this ,she will be doomedMar 04 20:41
schestowitzThe US will need to plant some vegetables in Brazil's panelsMar 04 20:41
schestowitzTo 'pull an Elop' on BraziliansMar 04 20:41
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seller_liarpeople will hate Dilma because she promises freedom of informationMar 04 20:42
schestowitzLOLMar 04 20:42
schestowitzAlejandro from our site (agensmith) made a funny avatar of herMar 04 20:42
schestowitzAs Mr. Bean giving the fingerMar 04 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan @joestump Now, this would be a lot better if it included a link to Firefox, though. ;)Mar 04 20:42
seller_liarDilma like democ rats receives a lot of money for election campaignMar 04 20:43
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schestowitzHeh. DIldaMar 04 20:45
schestowitzCOrporations like to play with itMar 04 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @diablod3 Tell senators: De-fund #BigOil, not vital programs, jobs and environment http://bit.ly/DefundBigOilMar 04 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @kde: It's alive!: I'm very excited to see that qt-atspi has seen some major progress lately. Frederik Gladhorn ... http://bit.ly/e6bHLjMar 04 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hillary Clinton: "We're Losing the War" http://alturl.com/ixf68 !wlMar 04 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gnufreex US DOJ might do something useful for a change: They might block Novell patent sale to Microsot CPTN http://ur1.ca/3dlw7Mar 04 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The problem at the US DOJ is the same as in the SEC. Either: 1) govt employee promised career post-govt ($$$) 2) Career in company -> govt.Mar 04 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Revolving doors are (one of) the Achilles Heel of free market doctrine. #monsanto #riaa #microsoft #usdoj #sec #fda #uspto #fcc #iccMar 04 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do Royalty-Free Standards “Stifle Innovation?” - http://bit.ly/hcDCPp important insight into why waiving royalty rights makes business senseMar 04 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [LMN] Birmingham UK – MeeGo Meetup http://ur1.ca/3e03p /Me[won't]Go after #elop #entryism #nokia #nowinMar 04 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tlaukkanen Created a simple game yesterday with my son and with help of latest Qt SDK 1.1 Beta. What we did http://vimeo.com/20579228Mar 04 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Procurement: Subscriptions http://ur1.ca/3e04d #freedom is not free but it costs a lot less, in the long termMar 04 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] Sometimes I have to do some tech support for #mac os x. Simultaneously, I often find my rage against mac and its design rising.Mar 04 21:04
schestowitzhttp://wikileaks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/02/capital_charges_filed_against_bradley_manningMar 04 21:05
schestowitzFishy commentMar 04 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Capital charges filed against Bradley Manning | WikiLeaked .::. Size~: 62.07 KBMar 04 21:05
schestowitzOnly one commentMar 04 21:05
schestowitzMaybe percweption management like hgbary plannedMar 04 21:06
schestowitzThey want to ensure publications won't associate themselves even with nuclear revelations emerging from cablegateMar 04 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @apoisel: The #Kubuntu guys R fast: upgrading 2 #KDE SC 4.6.1 http://ur.ly/FFLf < Glad abt ths. srsly considering KDE nxt upgradeMar 04 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @google: Transparency Report shows Google products inaccessible in Libya. http://goo.gl/33e5zMar 04 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Capital charges filed against #BradleyManning http://ur1.ca/3dm0u #Assange says #Murdoch #Foxnews is more like #terrorism than !wikileaksMar 04 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @RWW: ReadWriteCloud: StatusNet Launching New SaaS - Stops Accepting New Members for Year Old Service http://rww.to/hsLmy0Mar 04 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Our wonderful defenders rally for WikiLeaks in Brisbane. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOSGbKiDTr4 http://bit.ly/g0wxgJMar 04 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Hillary Clinton: "We're Losing the War" http://counterpunch.org/cockburn03042011.html http://bit.ly/f1rS98Mar 04 21:12
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GoForbes28What's this about Assange and Anti-semetism?Mar 04 21:14
GoForbes28I assume it's just more FUD?Mar 04 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The plan is to use startegy similar to what leaked out of #HBGary -> plant derogatory comments about #Assange & Manning, popularise lynchingMar 04 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Thunderbird 3.1.9 Update Now Available for Download http://mzl.la/eVU6jiMar 04 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @patdavila: another Apple wankfest on a TWIT podcast. on a show thats suppose 2 B abt Google. Unsubscribing now. shld know betterMar 04 21:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #hypePad 2 vs. #Android tablets: who’s winning? [Comparison Chart] http://ur1.ca/3e07nMar 04 21:19
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66111952Mar 04 21:20
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 21:09:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I know it is not the point but the prosecution have said they will not ask for the death penalty if he is convicted.Mar 04 21:20
schestowitzGoForbes28: where?Mar 04 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There were supposed to be comparisons between #meego and #hypeOS -baed tablets, but MeeGo was too good. Microsoft's #elop had to bury that.Mar 04 21:20
GoForbes28on Colbert reportMar 04 21:21
schestowitzReally? Odd.Mar 04 21:21
GoForbes28he was "grouped" with Charlie Sheen and some other guyMar 04 21:21
schestowitzSome of Assange's colleagues are Semites, it's just a smearMar 04 21:21
schestowitzWikileaks is a class thing, not a religious thingMar 04 21:22
MinceRschestowitz: elop can't bury MeeGo tablets, since nokia wasn't making any tablets to begin withMar 04 21:22
schestowitzIntel wasMar 04 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "greatest assault on US environmental protection" - http://bit.ly/fXuiBL amazed people can't see they're being used by rich & greedy in thisMar 04 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks wikileaks: Our wonderful defenders rally for WikiLeaks in Brisbane. http://ur1.ca/3e08dMar 04 21:22
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MinceRthe only thing he might have succeeded at burying was MeeGo _phones_Mar 04 21:22
GoForbes28thought soMar 04 21:22
schestowitzbut Nokia developed the core s/w inc. kernel additionsMar 04 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Testing the latest Fedora 15 nightlyMar 04 21:24
MinceRhm, the samsung galaxy tab allegedly has a proximity sensor built in -- does this mean it's meant to be used as a phone held to the ear? :>Mar 04 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @patdavila: another Apple wankfest on a TWIT podcast. on a show thats suppose 2 B abt Google. Unsubscribing now. shld know betterMar 04 21:24
schestowitzMinceR: it's ballnuxMar 04 21:24
MinceRi knowMar 04 21:25
GoForbes28so roy, if my brother were to buy an Android phone, which would be the best in terms of not sucking Microsoft's floppy disk and overall performance?Mar 04 21:25
schestowitzToday I held back and didn't say a thing when people at the table talked about buying sansungMar 04 21:25
schestowitzGoForbes28: Google has NexusMar 04 21:25
schestowitzI think they nixed the old oneMar 04 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros Testing the latest Fedora 15 nightly << Fedora 14 (KDE) is very goodMar 04 21:25
GoForbes28Nexus One?Mar 04 21:25
schestowitzBut at least no SCOnyMar 04 21:26
schestowitzMotorola uses loads of DRM and other restrictionsMar 04 21:26
GoForbes28what about Acer?Mar 04 21:26
schestowitzAcer=goodMar 04 21:26
schestowitzThey're among those who are not BallnuxMar 04 21:26
GoForbes28for performance too?Mar 04 21:26
schestowitzAcer also defended Linux occasionallyMar 04 21:26
schestowitzUnlike ASUS they rarely ever attacked LinuxMar 04 21:26
*magentar (~magentar@ip-178-202-27-150.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #techrightsMar 04 21:27
schestowitzTim/Goblin uses Acer a lotMar 04 21:27
GoForbes28I bought an ASUS laptop...Mar 04 21:27
GoForbes28Should I be ashamed?Mar 04 21:27
schestowitzNoMar 04 21:27
MinceRi have an Asus Eee PC 1005HAMar 04 21:27
schestowitzThey're not all meanMar 04 21:27
schestowitzThey had a moment when they were Microsoft marketing stoogesMar 04 21:27
GoForbes28At least they don't contract out.Mar 04 21:27
schestowitzBetterWithWindowsMar 04 21:27
MinceRhow did that end?Mar 04 21:28
schestowitzBadlyMar 04 21:28
GoForbes28hehMar 04 21:28
GoForbes28anywayMar 04 21:28
schestowitzASUS is ****EdMar 04 21:28
GoForbes28so Asus or Nexus?Mar 04 21:28
schestowitzand they used to be leadersMar 04 21:28
GoForbes28Fucked?Mar 04 21:28
schestowitzWith Xandros BallnuxMar 04 21:28
GoForbes28How are they screwed?Mar 04 21:28
schestowitzGoForbes28: screwedMar 04 21:28
schestowitzbeat me to it..Mar 04 21:28
GoForbes28hehMar 04 21:28
schestowitzGoForbes28: they had profit surgeMar 04 21:28
schestowitzAnd then they turned to WindowsMar 04 21:28
schestowitzAnd become "just another" Windows OEMMar 04 21:29
GoForbes28sucksMar 04 21:29
schestowitzAnd profits plummeted about 95%Mar 04 21:29
GoForbes28well, that won't stop me from using DebianMar 04 21:29
GoForbes28BTW, what's the language policy here?Mar 04 21:29
schestowitzWhat does it strive to?Mar 04 21:31
schestowitzOr what is it like?Mar 04 21:31
GoForbes28pardon?Mar 04 21:31
schestowitzDiablo-D3 throws his weight around a lotMar 04 21:31
schestowitzTechrights has always had clean languageMar 04 21:32
GoForbes28ohMar 04 21:32
schestowitzBut in IRC it's not possibly to poilice thatMar 04 21:32
GoForbes28I'll restrain myselfMar 04 21:32
Diablo-D3schestowitz: remember, Im also taller than you.Mar 04 21:32
MinceRlolMar 04 21:32
schestowitzNot retroactivelyMar 04 21:32
GoForbes28How tall?Mar 04 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FogComputing (cloud computing) is when no matter what you do, your whole work can vanish overnight.Mar 04 21:32
schestowitzStanding or lying?Mar 04 21:32
Diablo-D3tall enough to beat him in a fight.Mar 04 21:32
GoForbes28Then again Roy, they are just wordsMar 04 21:32
MinceRfights aren't about how tall you areMar 04 21:32
GoForbes28What, you are lying to me now?Mar 04 21:32
schestowitzDiablo-D3: being tall won't always helpMar 04 21:33
schestowitzIt depends on rulesMar 04 21:33
GoForbes28I am 6ft4 and a bitMar 04 21:33
schestowitzIf there's weight divisions tooMar 04 21:33
*Diablo-D3 thwaps schestowitzMar 04 21:33
GoForbes28145 poundsMar 04 21:33
MinceRi thought it depended on training,strength, agility, weapons and suchMar 04 21:33
GoForbes28I am a skeletonMar 04 21:33
MinceR:>Mar 04 21:33
schestowitzThen you can have 'twigs' fighting against much stronger people who take them to the groundMar 04 21:33
GoForbes28lolMar 04 21:33
GoForbes28ok, so Roy, let's summarizeMar 04 21:33
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I usually let girls win thoughMar 04 21:34
GoForbes28Is it OK to use swear words here?Mar 04 21:34
schestowitzPreferably notMar 04 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay, got it to work. sorry to spam you, !debian. and remember kids, even if it's the *minor* version change, some major things can differ!Mar 04 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copy&Paste machen das Leben schön - http://bit.ly/ihpLsC well written, if too accommodating for my tastes (v @heiko @netzpolitik) #copyrightMar 04 21:34
GoForbes28okMar 04 21:34
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MinceRGoForbes28: nobody's been told off for them, afaikMar 04 21:34
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I'm probably heavier than youMar 04 21:34
schestowitzYou can trash talk better than me thoughMar 04 21:34
GoForbes28Is ASUS a company to avoid?Mar 04 21:34
MinceRtrash talk can be interrupted :>Mar 04 21:34
schestowitzNoMar 04 21:34
Diablo-D3asus is fineMar 04 21:34
schestowitzYesMar 04 21:35
GoForbes28ok goodMar 04 21:35
GoForbes28I couldn't really take my laptop back anywaysMar 04 21:35
GoForbes28and finallyMar 04 21:35
schestowitzMinceR: "yo yo yo... I'm talle..[thrown to the ground]"Mar 04 21:35
GoForbes28You recommend Acer and Nexus?Mar 04 21:35
MinceRschestowitz: lolMar 04 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Middle-East has its 1989, finally! ♻ @Zeinobia What is happ in #alex & #cairo is so like storming of Stasi-HQ in East-Berlin 1989!Mar 04 21:35
schestowitzDiablo-D3: oiaohm is taller than youMar 04 21:36
schestowitzGoForbes28: Nexus is a phone typeMar 04 21:36
schestowitzSeriesMar 04 21:36
MinceRbrandMar 04 21:36
schestowitzI think it's HTC rebadged thoughMar 04 21:36
schestowitzOr made for Google theeMar 04 21:36
schestowitzHTC was bullied by Microsoft to pay for LinuxMar 04 21:37
GoForbes28so it is Microsoft-taxed?Mar 04 21:37
GoForbes28Aware of thisMar 04 21:37
schestowitzBut it fights the Church of Steve, which is goodMar 04 21:37
GoForbes28OK okMar 04 21:37
GoForbes28so HTC/Nexus or Acer are your choices?Mar 04 21:37
schestowitzAcerMar 04 21:38
schestowitzDHell has Android devices tooMar 04 21:38
GoForbes28I would stay from Dell anywaysMar 04 21:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66113426Mar 04 21:38
TechrightsBot-tr@jezra (jezra)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 21:30:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz trust me, if I wasn't trying to learn ruby, this entire projects would be in vala.Mar 04 21:38
GoForbes28Any notably good Acer models?Mar 04 21:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/43782836767039489Mar 04 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: RT @schestowitz: Distributions that promote 'Trusted' Computing become harder to trust (by users)Mar 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What do Anonymous and HTC have in common? They both fight against malicious sects.Mar 04 21:39
schestowitzGoForbes28: Cindy CrawfordMar 04 21:39
GoForbes28What?!!Mar 04 21:39
GoForbes28and I assume the malicious sect you are referring to is Apple?Mar 04 21:39
MinceRthat's just one malicious cultMar 04 21:40
MinceRwhat about m$?Mar 04 21:40
schestowitzI was joking. Mar 04 21:40
schestowitzYou ask which Acer modelMar 04 21:40
schestowitzThe one with the tat http://media.laptoplogic.com/data/news/images/851/acermodel.jpgMar 04 21:40
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMar 04 21:40
gnufreexWhen exactly De Icaza became Microsoft MVP?Mar 04 21:40
schestowitzGoForbes28: yes, AppleMar 04 21:40
GoForbes28oh lolMar 04 21:40
gnufreexBefore 2006 or after?Mar 04 21:40
schestowitzAnonymous also takes on another church now, not just ScientologyMar 04 21:41
schestowitzBut they deny itMar 04 21:41
GoForbes28Ok, roy, is there any notable acer PHONES?Mar 04 21:41
schestowitzGoForbes28: 2009 IIRCMar 04 21:41
schestowitzOr maybe that's when he joined themMar 04 21:41
schestowitzKey Member of CodePlex FoundationMar 04 21:41
schestowitzMVP maybe in 2010Mar 04 21:41
schestowitzHe's in second base nowMar 04 21:42
MinceRschestowitz: that's not Cindy CrawfordMar 04 21:42
schestowitzNext one he snogs Ballmer, then he joins MicrosoftMar 04 21:42
GoForbes282009 what?Mar 04 21:42
schestowitzMinceR: it's notMar 04 21:42
gnufreexschestowitz:  So he's not MVP anymore?Mar 04 21:42
schestowitzCrawford is a bit ahem... old nowMar 04 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] London Stock Exchange: What really went wrong - ComputerworldUK.com http://ping.fm/d1VBxMar 04 21:42
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MinceRindeedMar 04 21:42
schestowitzgnufreex: he's still an MVP aFAIKMar 04 21:42
schestowitzMost Valuable P****Mar 04 21:43
schestowitzMinceR: I liked her as a kidMar 04 21:43
schestowitzBut too young to like her sexuallyMar 04 21:43
gnufreexYeah, it is 2010Mar 04 21:44
schestowitzThose were the days of other models, before Heidi Klum...Mar 04 21:44
gnufreexhttp://limulus.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/miguel-de-icaza-microsoft-mvp/Mar 04 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Miguel de Icaza, Microsoft MVP « Limulus .::. Size~: 26.64 KBMar 04 21:44
GoForbes28Wow, what a tangent we have gone off onMar 04 21:44
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/fxecgMar 04 21:45
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gnufreexlolMar 04 21:45
schestowitzClaudio Fischer...Mar 04 21:45
schestowitz*iaMar 04 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Dammit! #unetbootin keeps freezing when it should be copying filesMar 04 21:45
schestowitz*schifferMar 04 21:46
schestowitzMeh. glynmoody has just linked to the mobbyistMar 04 21:47
schestowitzHe should know betterMar 04 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Oh, there it is: Freedom. Friends. Features. First. !FedoraMar 04 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RedHat defends !Linux kernel move - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner http://ping.fm/71bk5Mar 04 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @bkuhn: 1 guy is asking other: "you going to hit that? A girl with crutches?"Mar 04 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Debian wins two of seven categories at the Linux New Media Awards 2011 | Debian-News.net - Your one stop for news about Debian http://ping.fMar 04 21:47
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schestowitzgnufreex: http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2011/03/thanks-ubuntu.htmlMar 04 21:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Microsoft Says Please, Please Stop Using Internet Explorer (and tell your friends the same): http://wmk.me/hX4nrJ [yes, really]Mar 04 21:49
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MinceRm$ mistakenly scattered a lot of superfluous "6"-es on that pageMar 04 21:50
schestowitzhttp://handypenguin.blogspot.com/2011/03/stepping-down-considerately.htmlMar 04 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Random thoughts and experiences with Linux: Stepping down considerately .::. Size~: 49.85 KBMar 04 21:50
MinceRalso some links to a newer version of that GUI-enabled backdoor instead of links to actual web browsersMar 04 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] sudo works out of the box on Fedora 15. Nice!Mar 04 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Which species do you most relate to poll has some interesting comments http://ping.fm/ENeldMar 04 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Which species do you most relate to and why? | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 54.34 KBMar 04 21:51
gnufreexschestowitz: I don't get what's the point Mar 04 21:51
Diablo-D3[04:33:26] <schestowitz> Diablo-D3: oiaohm is taller than youMar 04 21:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66114668Mar 04 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 21:48:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz it'll delete my offsite backups? holy shit thats terribleMar 04 21:51
schestowitzLOLMar 04 21:51
Diablo-D3you dont even know how tall I amMar 04 21:51
GoForbes28I'm taller than YOUMar 04 21:51
*MinceR makes a guessMar 04 21:51
schestowitzYou said your heightMar 04 21:51
MinceR9001 km?Mar 04 21:51
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes!Mar 04 21:51
GoForbes286ft4 and a bit?Mar 04 21:51
Diablo-D3I am over 9000 kmMar 04 21:51
Diablo-D3gjMar 04 21:51
MinceRpftMar 04 21:51
MinceRmidgetMar 04 21:51
Diablo-D3GoForbes28: you're as tall as my brother.Mar 04 21:52
schestowitzDiablo-D3: holy *Mar 04 21:52
*MinceR throws a planet at Diablo-D3 Mar 04 21:52
GoForbes28Oh yeah, but I also weight 145 pounds!Mar 04 21:52
GoForbes28Suck my skeletal ass!Mar 04 21:52
MinceRewMar 04 21:52
schestowitzugh..Mar 04 21:52
GoForbes28Nah, I've probably gained some weight by nowMar 04 21:52
schestowitzToo much detalsMar 04 21:52
GoForbes28Fast motabolism kinda blows sometimesMar 04 21:53
GoForbes28uh oh, I seemed to have killed the momentumMar 04 21:54
gnufreexI have 101kgMar 04 21:54
gnufreexAnd no, I am not fatMar 04 21:54
GoForbes28Too bad I am metric except when it comes to height and weightMar 04 21:54
GoForbes28or should I say MASSMar 04 21:55
gnufreexI think it translated 230lbsMar 04 21:55
GoForbes28personal height and mass that isMar 04 21:55
GoForbes28yeahMar 04 21:55
MinceRyes, you should say massMar 04 21:55
GoForbes28how tall?Mar 04 21:55
gnufreex181cmMar 04 21:55
gnufreexBut I am not fatMar 04 21:56
gnufreexI used to play American rules FootbalMar 04 21:56
gnufreexWhich is pretty rare hereMar 04 21:56
GoForbes28see, I'm nearly a foot taller than you are and weight so much lessMar 04 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] some interesting points about a series of bad PR #Ubuntu moves leaving one Community Leader to quit http://tighturl.com/2zip #OneTooManyMar 04 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu Linux - Not yet a Pariah but heading there | GHABUNTU http://ping.fm/T3rVtMar 04 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera Assange lodges appeal in Britain #wikileaks << while powerful men appeal for corporal punishmentMar 04 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @silner London Stock Exchange: What really went wrong - ComputerworldUK.com http://ping.fm/d1VBxMar 04 21:57
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GoForbes28Because of my freaky metabolismMar 04 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Stock Exchange: What really went wrong - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 89.17 KBMar 04 21:57
gnufreexOk, am maybe little chubby nowMar 04 21:58
gnufreexI had 95-98kg when I was in shapeMar 04 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @cwebber "If only trained sysadmins can figure out how to be free, the society won't be free." http://ur1.ca/3dzeeMar 04 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Freedombox-discuss] 'No sysadmin' is the key to Freedom Box .::. Size~: 6.47 KBMar 04 21:59
schestowitzSame as meMar 04 21:59
GoForbes28no, you are average weightMar 04 21:59
GoForbes28as I've noted, I'm just a stickMar 04 21:59
gnufreex<GoForbes28> see, I'm nearly a foot taller than you are and weight so much lessMar 04 22:00
gnufreexwtf... you are 7ft ?Mar 04 22:00
GoForbes286 ft 5Mar 04 22:00
gnufreexYou can play basketballMar 04 22:00
GoForbes284Mar 04 22:00
GoForbes28you are 5 ft something according to the conversionMar 04 22:00
gnufreexThat is half ftMar 04 22:00
GoForbes28ohMar 04 22:00
gnufreexI am 5.11Mar 04 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@glynmoody "track citizens with their cell phones [...] which will be 1st Western gov to follow suit?" < they have already begunMar 04 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Gnome Shell works pretty well in FedoraMar 04 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] looking forward to the next !tb, I've missed the last 2 due to being unaware the recording was planned, so not being in irc at the timeMar 04 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @webmink @cwebber: "If only trained sysadmins can figure out how to be free, the society won't be free." http://ur1.ca/3dzeeMar 04 22:00
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GoForbes28ohMar 04 22:01
GoForbes28well, your weight is still more in lineMar 04 22:01
gnufreexSome rule is cm = kg minus "1"Mar 04 22:01
gnufreexSo I should have 80 kgMar 04 22:01
gnufreexBut screw that, it doesn't compute for contact sprots.Mar 04 22:02
GoForbes28hey Roy, did I scare you off?Mar 04 22:02
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Images/images3.htmMar 04 22:02
GoForbes28Sorry about the earlier commentMar 04 22:02
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GoForbes28you can't be serious...Mar 04 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mobile phones still perform the same function as in the 1990s. They make calls. Now they are expensive & with anti-features, radiation too.Mar 04 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Out with Windows 2000, in with !Fedora 14 By apexwm at Zdnet http://bit.ly/gJTsugMar 04 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Out with Windows 2000, in with !Fedora 14 | ZDNet UK http://ping.fm/aCVWlMar 04 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Out with Windows 2000, in with !Fedora 14 | ZDNet UK http://ping.fm/bIReJMar 04 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Out with Windows 2000, in with Fedora 14 | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 45.71 KBMar 04 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Out with Windows 2000, in with Fedora 14 | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 45.71 KBMar 04 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Out with Windows 2000, in with Fedora 14 | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 45.71 KBMar 04 22:02
GoForbes28Those have to be editted....Mar 04 22:03
schestowitzNoMar 04 22:03
gnufreexNiceMar 04 22:03
schestowitzBut if you know nice girls, hook me upMar 04 22:03
GoForbes28WTH were you doing?Mar 04 22:03
GoForbes28What, are you a weight-lifting engineer?Mar 04 22:03
GoForbes28Are you still that... way?Mar 04 22:04
schestowitzYesMar 04 22:05
schestowitzBut I'm straightMar 04 22:05
schestowitzSo don't say funny things hereMar 04 22:05
GoForbes28Well hell, don't both arguing with trollsMar 04 22:05
GoForbes28just show em those picturesMar 04 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros Cando became a Gnome Activity Journal team member: http://goo.gl/M5wv4 Congratulations to him!Mar 04 22:06
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GoForbes28and watch them become intimidatedMar 04 22:06
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66114769Mar 04 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 21:49:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz CommunistMar 04 22:06
schestowitzYour Canadian friendMar 04 22:06
schestowitzHe thinks Canada has some Marxist plot...Mar 04 22:06
GoForbes28I don't have any friendsMar 04 22:06
schestowitzMaybe he just provokesMar 04 22:06
schestowitzGoForbes28: you have friends in #techrightsMar 04 22:06
GoForbes28hoepfully not himMar 04 22:07
GoForbes28Maybe I should call him a Fascist?Mar 04 22:07
schestowitzBut we're no friends of back people like Viktor Orban and Rupert MurdochMar 04 22:07
GoForbes28I didn't think you were gay anywayMar 04 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Crackers destroy Vendor-Sec security mailing list for !Linux distributors - The H Security: News and Features http://ping.fm/Z53bTMar 04 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting insight from a former Daily Star "reporter" http://tighturl.com/2ziqMar 04 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Linus’ Law still valid? | Stop http://ping.fm/TbsDDMar 04 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crackers destroy security mailing list for Linux distributors - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.69 KBMar 04 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Star reporter quits in protest at tabloid's 'anti-Muslim' coverage | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.33 KBMar 04 22:07
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GoForbes28According to psycology though, there is no definite "gay" or "straight"Mar 04 22:08
MinceRi think ender is just a troll, not fascist, but who knowsMar 04 22:08
GoForbes28we are all on a spectrumMar 04 22:08
Diablo-D3hey schestowitzMar 04 22:08
Diablo-D3https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/PDMIMar 04 22:08
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenMar 04 22:08
Diablo-D3"oh hey, a new plug that does displayport, usb3, hdmi cec, and everything else...."Mar 04 22:08
Diablo-D3> MICROSOFTMar 04 22:08
Diablo-D3GODDAMNIT BALMERMar 04 22:08
GoForbes28Tell him where he can plug itMar 04 22:08
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gnufreexEnder got roughed by a trollMar 04 22:09
gnufreexHe knows sometihng about himMar 04 22:09
gnufreexthat Ender don't want publicMar 04 22:09
gnufreexAnd troll is techrights attackerMar 04 22:10
GoForbes28Hey Roy, maybe we can make a meme with those body shotsMar 04 22:10
schestowitzWho, the ACCESS troll?Mar 04 22:10
gnufreexyesMar 04 22:10
schestowitzYes, it goes a way back...Mar 04 22:10
schestowitzWay back to 2009Mar 04 22:10
gnufreexHe is now buddy buddy with himMar 04 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MHRD must give Tenders to FOSS Companies and avoid .NET programming language. http://ur1.ca/3e0ez Tender? Microsoft partners are not tender.Mar 04 22:11
MinceRis wrongie still active?Mar 04 22:11
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schestowitzGoForbes28: meme meMar 04 22:11
gnufreexI think it is 2010Mar 04 22:11
twitterinteresting, there are not really many trolls at Techrights, just a lot of nymsMar 04 22:11
schestowitzWe get a break from themMar 04 22:11
schestowitzThat's goodMar 04 22:11
twitterit is rare to have a face on oneMar 04 22:11
schestowitzSo I don't need to concentrate (be distracted by) hecklersMar 04 22:11
twitterthey are watchingMar 04 22:11
schestowitzI'll have some new blog posts soonMar 04 22:11
twitterKettlecooker poped up todayMar 04 22:12
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schestowitzAnd site traffic has been high recentlyMar 04 22:12
schestowitzIRC tooMar 04 22:12
twittercoolMar 04 22:12
schestowitzIn Twitter they screamMar 04 22:12
*gnufreex is in dilema, want to show pics that he's better than schestowitz, but want to stay anonymousMar 04 22:12
schestowitzNot in identi.caMar 04 22:12
MinceRgnufreex: you could pixelate your headMar 04 22:12
schestowitzUbuntu's less informed folks, Novell and Mono /Banshee screamersMar 04 22:12
twitterHere's something interesting I saw mentioned by Slashdot, http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/chronopays-scareware-diaries/Mar 04 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ChronoPay’s Scareware Diaries —  Krebs on Security .::. Size~: 78.47 KBMar 04 22:12
twittera Russian bank is profiting from Windows Malware.Mar 04 22:13
gnufreexMinceR: Yeah, that way I can show Mike Alstot and claim it is me. Mar 04 22:13
schestowitzMinceR: it's pixelatedMar 04 22:13
MinceR:>Mar 04 22:13
schestowitzBut fine pixelsMar 04 22:13
twitterI wonder if there will be something similar in the Bank of America emailsMar 04 22:13
MinceRgnufreex: you could do it anyway because we don't know your faceMar 04 22:13
MinceRschestowitz: hur hurMar 04 22:13
schestowitzI can do raster scan of real objectsMar 04 22:13
MinceRso can iMar 04 22:14
GoForbes28schestowitz: Meme you?  I barely know you! :)Mar 04 22:14
schestowitzBTW, I have 7GB of 3D face setsMar 04 22:14
MinceRwith a high-tech device known as a "scanner"Mar 04 22:14
schestowitz70GBMar 04 22:14
schestowitzDepth as 'colour'Mar 04 22:14
MinceRand with another high-tech device known as a "camera"Mar 04 22:14
MinceR:>Mar 04 22:14
schestowitz+textureMar 04 22:14
schestowitzFrom workMar 04 22:14
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schestowitzGoForbes28: lolMar 04 22:14
twitter70 GB for a surface?Mar 04 22:14
*MinceR doesn't take CT and such devices home :>Mar 04 22:14
schestowitztwitter: no, 5000 of themMar 04 22:15
schestowitzGrand ChallengeMar 04 22:15
schestowitzabout 13mb eachMar 04 22:15
twitterah, that makes more sense. Mar 04 22:15
schestowitzMinceR: I don't take it homeMar 04 22:15
schestowitzI access via SSHMar 04 22:16
twitterCT not on wheels? Mar 04 22:16
MinceR:>Mar 04 22:16
schestowitztwitter: it can beMar 04 22:16
schestowitzMRI toMar 04 22:16
schestowitzBut the magnets are smallMar 04 22:16
schestowitzThe mobile ones are notoriously c***Mar 04 22:16
MinceR?Mar 04 22:16
schestowitz!Mar 04 22:16
twitterRight, but it's not the best of set ups ..Mar 04 22:16
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schestowitz!google mobile mri Mar 04 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mobile MRI Rental - Rent MRI - Lease MRI - Mobile MRI Unit ... | http://www.mobileleasing.com/mobiles/mobile-mriMar 04 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Alliance Imaging A Division of Alliance HealthCare Services | http://www.alliancehealthcareservices-us.com/imagingMar 04 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Mobile MRI Rental | http://www.mobilemrictpet.com/Mar 04 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mobile Diagnostic Imaging - Mobile MRI, Medical Imaging | http://www.mobilediagnosticimage.com/Mar 04 22:17
twitterGood ones have lots of room to walk around and get away from FDG doseMar 04 22:17
schestowitzHow bad is the radiation?Mar 04 22:17
schestowitzI need to sign form when accessing one for dataMar 04 22:17
schestowitzI never read itMar 04 22:17
MinceRlolMar 04 22:17
twitterPET is a significant source of staff dose.  Mar 04 22:18
GoForbes28So roy, do you do any martial arts?Mar 04 22:18
schestowitz"just sign hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeree...." [smirks]Mar 04 22:18
schestowitztwitter: but MRI?>Mar 04 22:18
schestowitzIt's mostly magnetsMar 04 22:18
MinceRIn Soviet Russia, martial arts do YOU!!Mar 04 22:18
twitterrightMar 04 22:18
schestowitzI'd get more legal stuff from flying in the US ;-)Mar 04 22:18
schestowitzTSArMar 04 22:19
GoForbes28TSAr?Mar 04 22:19
twitterpeople are working to combine radio therapy and MRI.Mar 04 22:19
twitterThe fast MRIs, like the one you have that can see a beating heart are particularly good for that.Mar 04 22:19
schestowitzOr... I could refuse and then  be jerked off by some pervert with blue glovesMar 04 22:19
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MinceRafaik technology to do that already existsMar 04 22:19
twittervery exciting.Mar 04 22:19
twitterthe tech exists but the use is not widespread yet.Mar 04 22:20
schestowitzLike many good thingsMar 04 22:20
MinceRwell, it probably isn't cheap :>Mar 04 22:20
schestowitzI had a long chat about it last nigthMar 04 22:20
schestowitz3 hours and moreMar 04 22:20
schestowitzHow lots of things people clamour over today are decades oldMar 04 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] I'd have to say, I don't like it when I see a cpu core touching 70+ C, espcially 77 C, but at least its not staying there.Mar 04 22:21
MinceR:>Mar 04 22:21
schestowitzJust not made widespread, thus super expensive and lab onlyMar 04 22:21
schestowitz3d printers...Mar 04 22:21
schestowitz3d miceMar 04 22:21
schestowitzVR headsetsMar 04 22:21
MinceRi'd like some gold bars, even if they're decades oldMar 04 22:21
schestowitzVR glovesMar 04 22:21
twitterIn medicine, you need trials, FDA approval etc.Mar 04 22:21
schestowitzTouchscreens (until recently)..Mar 04 22:21
Diablo-D3manMar 04 22:21
Diablo-D3hows thisMar 04 22:21
Diablo-D33D penisesMar 04 22:21
*Diablo-D3 whips it outMar 04 22:21
GoForbes28VR dildos!Mar 04 22:21
MinceRDiablo-D3: old news.Mar 04 22:21
MinceReven the first penis was a 3D oneMar 04 22:22
Diablo-D3time to probe hot chicks in lab coats (and nothing but the coat)Mar 04 22:22
schestowitzrender(cone);Mar 04 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @morag As well as AdBlock & FlashBlock we need DailyMailBlock.Mar 04 22:22
GoForbes28Hey Roy, did I mention that a former higher-up guy at Cognos did a presentation in my class?Mar 04 22:22
GoForbes28I actually asked him afterwards what he though about "OSS"Mar 04 22:23
twitterAnyway, I thought it was nice of Krebsonsecurity to call out Windows.Mar 04 22:23
twitter"If your Windows PC has been hijacked by fake anti-virus software or “scareware” anytime in the past few years, chances are good that the attack was made possible by ChronoPay, Russia’s largest processor of online payments."Mar 04 22:24
Diablo-D3lolMar 04 22:24
twitternot quite blame where blame is due, but close.Mar 04 22:24
Diablo-D3I got scareware ads on linuxMar 04 22:24
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66115872Mar 04 22:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 22:05:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the US was doing this before 9/11 - EchelonMar 04 22:24
Diablo-D3XP-themed graphic: "WE HAVE KIDNAPPED YOUR DAUGHTER, IF YOU DO NOT WANT US TO GANG RAPE HER, PLEASE SEND MONEY TO THIS ADDRESS IN NIGERIA"Mar 04 22:25
Diablo-D3well jokes on you fuckers, I was trying to get rid of her anyhow!Mar 04 22:25
twitterAnother thing that seems nice the Chromium Browser which is part of Squeeze. Mar 04 22:25
GoForbes28Diablo-D3: So what?  They aren't going to do anythingMar 04 22:25
GoForbes28yuck chromiumMar 04 22:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/43793024643371008Mar 04 22:25
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz yes, but not in real time, and of an entire megalopolis...Mar 04 22:25
schestowitzthere is always prior art. Little by little ;-)Mar 04 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nsisodiya India’s first ever ladies cab service - http://ur1.ca/3e0h6Mar 04 22:25
schestowitzSPying^^Mar 04 22:26
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GoForbes28I don't particually like chromium anyways, but I'd use SRWare iron over it any dayMar 04 22:26
twitterWhat's the yuck on Chromium?Mar 04 22:26
schestowitzGoogleMar 04 22:26
GoForbes28I don't like the interfaceMar 04 22:26
GoForbes28As I said though, I would use SRWare iron insteadMar 04 22:26
schestowitzKonqueror uses nice QtMar 04 22:26
twitterwhat in particular?  I hated the XP style decorations but saw they could be made to vanish with a right click.Mar 04 22:27
schestowitzAnd can use webKHTML[it] if necessaryMar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3DEATH TO QTMar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3DEATH TO QTMar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3DEATH TO QTMar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3DEATH TO QTMar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3DEATH TO QTMar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3DEATH TO QTMar 04 22:27
*Diablo-D3 straps on his dynomite beltMar 04 22:27
*Diablo-D3 declares jihad on microsoftMar 04 22:27
schestowitzHello FatimaMar 04 22:27
twitterKonq is still my favorite, even the 3.5 branch hidden away in Midori. Mar 04 22:27
Diablo-D3twitter: huwait, what?Mar 04 22:28
twitterVi motion controls rock.Mar 04 22:28
GoForbes28I don't like the interface setup, the no menus etc.Mar 04 22:28
Diablo-D3midori != konqMar 04 22:28
gnufreexDiablo-D3 Are you agains or for Microsoft? You want qt dead?Mar 04 22:28
GoForbes28Midori's pretty goodMar 04 22:28
twitterbut Chromium browser worked YouTube with Gnash.  That made me happy.Mar 04 22:28
Diablo-D3gnufreex: qt is now a microsoft productMar 04 22:28
MinceRi think he wants quicktime deadMar 04 22:28
Diablo-D3gnufreex: just like mono and ubuntuMar 04 22:28
GoForbes28Yeah, QuickTimeMar 04 22:28
Diablo-D3MinceR: that died years ago, to be fairMar 04 22:28
GoForbes28What's with gnash?Mar 04 22:28
MinceRand i agree with the sentimentMar 04 22:28
GoForbes28I've never gotten it work, but others have it work out of the boxMar 04 22:28
Diablo-D3GoForbes28: gnash doesnt new ultra new flash shitMar 04 22:29
schestowitzIs Ubuntu Live?Mar 04 22:29
GoForbes28I know DiabloMar 04 22:29
twitterGnash with Chromium worked out of the box for me on Youtube.  That rocked. Mar 04 22:29
GoForbes28I'm talking about YoutubeMar 04 22:29
Diablo-D3GoForbes28: you want lightspark thoughMar 04 22:29
GoForbes28But why only chromium?  That doesn't make any senseMar 04 22:29
Diablo-D3lightspark doesnt do the OLD shit, and automatically launches gnash for shit it cant runMar 04 22:30
GoForbes28okMar 04 22:30
twitterFirefox and Konq did not work for me last time I tried. Mar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3you need lightspark for youtubeMar 04 22:30
GoForbes28that still doesnt' solve the problem of GNASH not workingMar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3yes it does.Mar 04 22:30
twitterThe other thing that's cool about Chromium is that one bad tab does not freeze the whole browser.  It seems to work.Mar 04 22:30
GoForbes28Or I could just use MinitubeMar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3[05:27:32] <Diablo-D3> you need lightspark for youtubeMar 04 22:30
MinceRinstead, the browser panics the kernelMar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3alsoMar 04 22:30
MinceRthat's so much better than freezing the whole browserMar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3none if its good enough yetMar 04 22:30
GoForbes28yeah twitter, in exhange for using a crapload more memoryMar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3so I still use adobe's shitMar 04 22:30
Diablo-D3GoForbes28: ALSO, re: youtube, you can always turn html5 mode onMar 04 22:31
GoForbes28booo!Mar 04 22:31
twitterI've yet to have my browser bring down X.Mar 04 22:31
Diablo-D3twitter: Ive done thatMar 04 22:31
Diablo-D3back in the ns3.x daysMar 04 22:31
MinceRif only it only brought down XMar 04 22:31
twitterThe big publisher javascripts try.Mar 04 22:31
MinceR:>Mar 04 22:31
twitterIt's just very rare.Mar 04 22:31
twitterA bad tab might pop Konq, but that's about it.Mar 04 22:32
twitterI notice Konq because that's what I use almost all of the time.Mar 04 22:32
twitterChromium looks nice but it does not, as far as I've seen so far, have Konq's extensive privacy guards and customization. Mar 04 22:33
twitterI'm going to use it for sites that don't behave.Mar 04 22:33
twitterit's light Mar 04 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Enjoying pavillion 36 compilation picked up from vinyl shop. According to demographic experts, I'm far too old to like D&B as much as I doMar 04 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why !WikiLeaks Is Raising Money Using #MasterCard and #PayPalin Again http://ur1.ca/3e0i8 after backlash, same with ManningMar 04 22:36
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GoForbes28brbMar 04 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya. Gaddafi will not blitzkrieg east but play cagier, not make it easy for foreign detractors, 12 mths time he will be back in control.Mar 04 22:46
twitterAtlantic article is icky.  Uncritically rehashes rape and "illegal" activities smears.Mar 04 22:48
twitterAlso gets things backwards.... "Julian Assange blasted the firms as "instruments of U.S. foreign policy" "Mar 04 22:49
twitterIt is apparent that the US government is more an agent of the firms. Mar 04 22:49
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twitterThe incident totally turned me off to credit card companies and paypal.  Good thing I don't need to buy yet more stuff. Mar 04 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Google shutting down Gizmo5 - VoIP apocalypse on April 3rd: http://wmk.me/gTK8DCMar 04 22:52
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schestowitzI cancelled my VisaMar 04 22:54
schestowitzAnd I don't use paypal for nowMar 04 22:54
twitterThis is limiting because Ebay and other online sites are the best way to buy specialty gadgets.  Mar 04 22:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/43782285622910976Mar 04 22:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #hypePad 2 vs. #Android tablets: who’s winning? [Comparison Chart] http://ur1.ca/3e07nMar 04 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @JPBarlow: Obama is silent on #BradleyManning, now forced to stand naked. Silence is the language of complicity. #WikiLeaks #TortureMar 04 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @antiwarcom #Egypt State Security firing on ppl trying to seize documents in Alexandria. @monaeltahawy sez must be "serious shit" in themMar 04 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ♻ @SaliWho Amazing resignation letter from a Daily Star journalist printed in full in The Guardian http://t.co/Jl8DNDqMar 04 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @xavierleret "The first time he saw her a shudder passed through him like the word of God through a virgin"~Xavier Leret, Heaven Sent !qMar 04 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @savebradley: Manning stripped naked for second night: http://is.gd/2qoWsc #Manning #WikileaksMar 04 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @greymous Won't need teachers since everyone will work for Koch Industries starting at age 5 until they die or are euthanized. #WIunionMar 04 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @encyclomundi @eyz I have a finest appreciation of both the finest made !coffee & the lowest percolated diner tar, but won't tolerate ...Mar 04 23:04
twitterhype pad vrs droid .... droid will eventually win, if it has not already.  microsoft has already lost big timeMar 04 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: First migration of #Greek Public Organization to Free Software - http://bit.ly/h9S4a5 long Microsoft stronghold; let's hope...Mar 04 23:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Oh cool. Thanks for the info. :)Mar 04 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thedailybeast Lawyer: Manning Left Naked in Jail Cell ... Friends say his mental condition deteriorating. http://thebea.st/f87rNHMar 04 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawyer: Bradley Manning Left Naked In Jail Cell - The Daily Beast .::. Size~: 319.14 KBMar 04 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed.Mar 04 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US DoJ Cracks Up Its Covert War on Whistleblowers | Harpers http://alturl.com/prymb !wlMar 04 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: :O http://c418.bandcamp.com/album/minecraft-volume-alphaMar 04 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Justice Cranks Up Its Covert War on Whistleblowers—By Scott Horton (Harper's Magazine) .::. Size~: 15.5 KBMar 04 23:09
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GoForbes28Wow Roy, your hair really changed colorMar 04 23:09
twitterMust be more of the stuff Hillary promised to do.Mar 04 23:09
GoForbes28*colourMar 04 23:09
GoForbes28Mine hasn't done the sameMar 04 23:10
twitterUS DHinS wanted to deploy xray scanners at buss stations, rail stations and "special event venues" without telling the public.  http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9212681/DHS_seeks_systems_for_covert_body_scans_documents_showMar 04 23:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DHS seeks systems for covert body scans, documents show - Computerworld .::. Size~: 125.98 KBMar 04 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Quantico Brig guards required him to surrender all of his clothing." http://ur1.ca/3e0mp that's done to US/British national, not Abu GhraibMar 04 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: What's An F-16 Worth? About 80,000 Tons of Chicken http://is.gd/gAleRw !wlMar 04 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Law Office of David E. Coombs: PFC Manning Stripped Naked Again .::. Size~: 94.26 KBMar 04 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's An F-16 Worth? About 80,000 Tons of Chicken - Fedblog .::. Size~: 26.69 KBMar 04 23:14
twitterThe electronic flight data system (EFD) being phased in at Glasgow Prestwick Airport is too slow to handle real-time inputs, and could not cope with an outage that isolated it from the main air traffic system. - Slashdot.  Links to ZDNet.  Wanna bet microsoft is at the bottom of it but not mentioned?Mar 04 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Red Hat defends changes to kernel source distribution http://ur1.ca/3e0nd #rhel #redhat !gnu !linux !fsMar 04 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat defends changes to kernel source distribution - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.98 KBMar 04 23:17
twitterding, ding http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-us/Details.aspx?type=Software&p=Integrated%20Communication%20Control&v=FREQUENTIS%20AG&uid=&pf=2&pi=31&c=Communication%20%26%20Internet&sc=Security&os=64-bitMar 04 23:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 7 Compatibility for Integrated Communication Control: FREQUENTIS AG. Drivers, Updates, Downloads .::. Size~: 154.8 KBMar 04 23:18
twitterThey are the provider of the slow, unsafe system.Mar 04 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] How To Display Documentation Online: 1. server static files. 2. GOTO 1Mar 04 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT@kaepora What does B.Obama do when 1 of his own citizens is jailed alone and naked? He silently watches and keeps watching on !wl #ManningMar 04 23:19
twitterfrom the ZDNet story ->  On 15 February, the IBM-based National Air Traffic Service system covering the UK stopped talking to EFD. Air traffic controllers at Prestwick scrambled to remedy the situation. Some people on days off had to go into work to try to move the traffic build-up, which caused numerous delays to flights.Mar 04 23:19
twitterHo ho, IBM Microsoft conflict?  Mar 04 23:19
twitterCall Florian!Mar 04 23:20
gnufreexwhat conflict?Mar 04 23:20
Diablo-D3this oneMar 04 23:21
*Diablo-D3 pisses in IBM's cheeriosMar 04 23:22
*Diablo-D3 leaves microsoft business card behindMar 04 23:22
twitter.NET Gold Partner, it seems, get the "White Paper" while it's not hot.  http://www.findwhitepapers.com/technology/software_development/_netMar 04 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: .NET Research - Find White Papers .::. Size~: 89.55 KBMar 04 23:23
gnufreexwhat one, twitter, do you have link to IBM-MS slagfest?Mar 04 23:23
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gnufreexok, that word doesn't mean what I previosly toughtMar 04 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Judge Allows Sony to Unmask Anybody Who Visited GeoHot Site http://ping.fm/7tWerMar 04 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] giving serious consideration to doing #NaMoWriMo this year, more to see if I can actually write a novel, or just think I canMar 04 23:24
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gnufreexI mean fightMar 04 23:24
twitterI'm looking at the Glasgow airport troubles.  ZDNet mentions IBM and what looks like Microsoft partner Frequentis without mentioning Microsoft.  http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2011/03/02/air-traffic-control-system-is-not-safe-say-uk-controllers-40091970/Mar 04 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Air traffic control system is 'not safe', say UK controllers | Security Threats | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 56.79 KBMar 04 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apparently Sony also want to sue anyone who posed the keys, including their own executive I presume?Mar 04 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@mvalente: Diz q a infraestrutura de mail do Min. da Justiça, toda opensource, c/ 18 milhoes de files e 2.6 Tb, vai ser migrada p/ ExchangeMar 04 23:26
twitterSlashdot covered it as controllers calling the system slow and unsafe.  I have a hunch it's a .NET mess.Mar 04 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Dunno if he was an executive per se but sum top bloke at Sony posted those keys by mistake & as we all know intent doesn't matter w/ IP lawMar 04 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I never much liked Leonard Cohen, though Allison Crowe's covers are OK. Downbeat is alright so long as balanced with upbeat too.Mar 04 23:29
gnufreexschestowitz, twitter, https://identi.ca/notice/66119816Mar 04 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@gnufreex's status on Friday, 04-Mar-11 23:13:04 UTC - Identi.ca: Red Hat defends changes to kernel source distribution http://ur1.ca/3e0nd #rhel #redhat !gnu !linux !fsMar 04 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Red Hat defends changes to kernel source distribution - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.98 KBMar 04 23:30
twitterIck this covity company hates Android... http://research.crn.com/technology/software_development/_netMar 04 23:30
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MinceRgnMar 04 23:31
gnufreexBrian Stevens "bluntly" admits, changes are against Oracle.Mar 04 23:31
twitterI'm getting there .  http://research.crn.com/content10961Mar 04 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frequentis Standardizes on Coverity Static Analysis for Safety-Critical Software Integrity - ChannelWeb .::. Size~: 69.8 KBMar 04 23:31
twitterYou know you are in trouble when a company "standardizes on" something.  The something is usually awful, like Microsoft. Mar 04 23:32
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gnufreexStandardizing on Microsoft is oxymoronMar 04 23:32
twitterThat's why the use the word.Mar 04 23:33
twitterekks, someone "drove the evaluation and introduction of Coverity Static Analysis into the organization"Mar 04 23:34
gnufreexYeah, Microsoft is all about parody and nonsense. But they behave like it is Real Wordl(tm) Mar 04 23:34
twittersounds like they were stabbed with it.Mar 04 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @antiwarcom #Egypt State Security firing on ppl trying to seize documents in Alexandria. @monaeltahawy sez must be "se ...Mar 04 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia O quê ??? Quando a maioria do mundo civilizado MIGRA para Google Apps e Google mail... Poutz...Mar 04 23:34
twitter" Developers didn’t want a tool that only showed them abstract metrics, but would instead show them exactly where they made a coding error." look to the choice of platform....Mar 04 23:35
twitterTopics related to the whitepaper include. " .NET 32  Documents , C++26  Documents  , Database Development, 70  Documents, , Middleware, 43  Documents, Open Source, 31  Documents , Quality Assurance, 32  Documents ,Scripting, 17  Documents , SOAP, 18  Documents , Software Outsourcing , 54  Documents ,Software Testing,  52  Documents ,Visual Basic, 16  Documents,Web Development, 74 Documents , Web Service Security, 32  Documents, Web ServicMar 04 23:39
twitterYou have fallen deep into a Microsoft hole.  It is very dark.  Things are slow and uncomfortable.  Mar 04 23:40
twitterBe afraid of Android!  http://research.crn.com/content10962Mar 04 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get the Coverity Scan 2010 Open Source Integrity Report featuring the Android Integrity Report - ChannelWeb .::. Size~: 70.31 KBMar 04 23:41
twitterGet the facts seems to be alive and well.Mar 04 23:41
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twitterWhat whores.Mar 04 23:42
twitterHere they are bragging about their C# "quality" tools.  http://www.coverity.com/html/press_story61_06_03_08.htmlMar 04 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coverity Incorporated: Press Release: Story 61 | Coverity .::. Size~: 19.53 KBMar 04 23:43
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twitterHere is poor Frequentis "standardizing" on them.Mar 04 23:44
twitterhttp://coverity.com/html/press/frequentis-standardizes-on-coverity.htmlMar 04 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frequentis Standardizes on Coverity for Safety-Critical Software Code Integrity | Coverity .::. Size~: 18.49 KBMar 04 23:44
twitterWhat does it do?  " Coverity Static Analysis automatically scans complex heterogeneous C/C++, Java and C# code bases with no changes to the code or build system, scaling to any size code base in a single analysis."Mar 04 23:45
twitterThe only platform that I can think of with java, C/C++ and C# "complex" systems is Windows.Mar 04 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @qu1j0t3 ♻ @SaliWho Amazing resignation letter from a Daily Star journalist printed in full in The Guardian http://ur1.ca/3e0zxMar 04 23:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Peppiatt's letter to Daily Star proprietor Richard Desmond | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 96.77 KBMar 04 23:46
twitterQED, Glasgow bought a Microsoft mess that is not working.Mar 04 23:46
twitterZDNet hides Microsoft behind their pawn, Frequentis, but a little research on the right terms unearths them.Mar 04 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: US DoJ Cracks Up Its Covert War on Whistleblowers | Harpers http://www.harpers.org/archive/2011/02/hb... http://bit.ly/eGNSuEMar 04 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: What's An F-16 Worth? About 80,000 Tons of Chicken http://is.gd/gAleRw http://bit.ly/exzxCWMar 04 23:47
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twitterThe full case study is behind a spam wall http://softwareintegrity.coverity.com/FrequentisCaseStudy.htmlMar 04 23:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coverity Frequentis Case Study .::. Size~: 32.68 KBMar 04 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] From house arrest with love; All Quiet on the Western Front for World Book Night http://is.gd/YQoMxM !wlMar 04 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Is Libya adding a DENY ALL fw settings to their BGP routers? Autonomous and non centralized net very important now.Mar 04 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: World Book Night: A book so good they want to give it to you for free  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 81.92 KBMar 04 23:49
twitter" One project, 80 critical defects, with overall defect density measured at one fault per 3,000 lines of code are reasons why Frequentis overwhelmingly selected Coverity as their solution of choice. "  The flying public is so grateful that Coverity halped Frequentis work all of the bugs out of the Glasgow airport software.  Is so critical!Mar 04 23:51
twitterbbl, I've got some real work to do.Mar 04 23:51
twitter:-DMar 04 23:51
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