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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Special treatment gives Israeli mobsters free access to the US | Intifada http://t.co/ANsE5EG | Aug 29 00:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What I really want is adblock plus for the telly. Fuck off you advertising parasite shites. | Aug 29 00:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @furrygirl: Nine cables from Benin list US State Department placements in the local media: http://t.co/6WWa5LI #wlfind | Aug 29 00:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @HomoCarnula: #wlfind prisoners are violently abused by Correctional Emergency Response Teams (CERT) in Georgia prisons. http://t.co/ ... | Aug 29 00:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @HomoCarnula: Young boys unable to defend themselves are sometimes gang raped by men at weddings #India #wlfind http://t.co/iTQOC5l | Aug 29 01:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I agree. The ideal PE 2011 Polling Card http://yfrog.com/h33a9udmj #fb | Aug 29 02:01 | |
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schestowitz | gn | Aug 29 02:06 |
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DaemonFC | "GNOME, Xfce and other Desktop Environments (DE) and Window Managers (WM) are no longer included in the official Mandriva packages. Contribution packages from the Mandriva community are available for these desktop environments however. Starting from Mandriva Desktop 2011 only KDE4 is officially supported." | Aug 29 02:23 |
DaemonFC | hmm | Aug 29 02:23 |
DaemonFC | so anything but KDE 4 now is entirely at your own risk | Aug 29 02:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @gbraad Thanks. What about the others? It seems like a lot of duplicated efforts will end up going to waste | Aug 29 02:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Firefox sometimes remembers what pages you've pinned and sometimes it doesn't | Aug 29 02:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] http://www.betabeat.com/2011/08/03/pseudonymity-debate-divided-between-silicon-valley-machine-versus-the-new-york-state-of-mind/ #heehaw | Aug 29 03:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Panama: Media stifling of a 2004 election-eve bomb shell http://t.co/ODX47zq #wlfind | Aug 29 03:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US sought to vet current Israeli military chief for '08 visit under Senator Leahy law | Haaretz http://t.co/HQCIwXm | Aug 29 03:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US ambassador's secret Hanoi sex guide http://t.co/O72Psi4 | Aug 29 04:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New WikiLeaks Cables Show US Diplomats Push Genetically Engineered Crops Worldwide | @Truthout http://t.co/a2BltWM | Aug 29 04:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @x11r5: What's this newfangled dadbummed bitcoin thing all about? | old man @x11r5 | Aug 29 04:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Searching WikiLeaks cables for your area of knowledge. Example: Literature http://t.co/slot6Km | Aug 29 04:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Whole crowd-source system now has commenting and tweeting enabled http://t.co/Tah0PJq | Aug 29 04:32 | |
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Kryczek | hi everybody | Aug 29 04:37 |
Kryczek | not sure if this is the right channel to ask, but since Google shows you as the one talking most about TPM I thought I'd give my question a try: | Aug 29 04:38 |
Kryczek | ... if the Internet connection lets me :D | Aug 29 04:47 |
Kryczek | with tpm_sealdata and tpm_unsealdata it is possible to render access to some data impossible unless the PCRs are in the right combination, but this requires a file on disk... Does anybody know if it's possible to seal/unseal just a crypto key without having any file on disk? | Aug 29 04:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our editor, Julian Assange, has now been detained for 265 days without charge. Do not forgive. Do not forget. http://t.co/O7xJWdm | Aug 29 05:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Experience. It's only a matter of time. | Aug 29 05:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @araceletorres: Conhecem o cdtc, centro de difusão de tecnologia e conhecimento? Tem muito curso bacana# http://comunidade.cdtc.org.br/ | Aug 29 05:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: Julian Assange has now been detained for 265 days without charge. Do not forgive. Do not forget. http://t.co/O7xJWdm | Aug 29 05:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Its fair to gloat even now ! http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqnfdm2vbC1qm0qxwo1_500.jpg | Aug 29 05:26 | |
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cubezzz | surely it's better just not to use TPM | Aug 29 05:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Experience. It's only a matter of time. | Aug 29 05:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fontana @bkuhn When I were a lad in #NewYork we got #hurricane's in August all the time. Never !problematic. That's the way it was a ... | Aug 29 06:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon serialization for Monday posted ... http://ur1.ca/4zdjb !SelfPub | Aug 29 06:09 | |
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Kryczek | cubeman_: why not? :) | Aug 29 06:12 |
cubezzz | that's me on another box I think Kryczek | Aug 29 06:17 |
cubezzz | well the obvious answer is that my computer could be locked against me | Aug 29 06:18 |
cubezzz | also loss of anonymity | Aug 29 06:18 |
MinceR | and it might have backdoors | Aug 29 06:19 |
DaemonFC | http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page | Aug 29 06:22 |
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Kryczek | cubezzz: ah yes sorry with the terrible connection here I didnt pay attention to the bad autocompletion :) | Aug 29 06:27 |
DaemonFC | GIV US DIS DAY OUR DALEE CHEEZBURGER. | Aug 29 06:27 |
DaemonFC | AND FURGIV US FOR MAKIN YU A COOKIE, BUT EATEDING IT. | Aug 29 06:28 |
DaemonFC | AND WE FURGIV WEN CATS STEEL OUR COOKIEZ. | Aug 29 06:28 |
DaemonFC | nice :) | Aug 29 06:28 |
Kryczek | cubezzz: I want to use TPM to verify the integrity of my boot files, so it's not going to lock me | Aug 29 06:29 |
Kryczek | worst case scenario is a false alarm | Aug 29 06:29 |
Kryczek | MinceR: it might have backdoors indeed but that's not worse than the alternative, which is no integrity check | Aug 29 06:30 |
Kryczek | cubezzz: I don't see what you mean however by "loss of anonymity" ? | Aug 29 06:30 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 3.1-rc4 is out http://bit.ly/paqsyS "But at the same time, I continue to be pretty happy about the state of 3.1 so far." | Aug 29 06:31 | |
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MinceR | Kryczek: you could use software implementation of cryptographic algorithms | Aug 29 06:36 |
Kryczek | I already do, my encrypted partition is LUKS | Aug 29 06:36 |
MinceR | though i did not know you were intending to use it to verify the integrity if your boot files | Aug 29 06:36 |
Kryczek | but exactly because it is software | Aug 29 06:36 |
Kryczek | it can be compromised if you get your hands on my PC | Aug 29 06:37 |
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MinceR | if one can get their hands on your PC, they can compromise anyway | Aug 29 06:37 |
MinceR | for example, they can install a keylogger in line with the keyboard | Aug 29 06:37 |
MinceR | (hardware) | Aug 29 06:37 |
Kryczek | what do you mean, hardware keylogger? :) | Aug 29 06:38 |
Kryczek | indeed | Aug 29 06:38 |
Kryczek | but in my tight laptop, it would be very very hard | Aug 29 06:38 |
MinceR | i doubt that it would be prohibitively hard | Aug 29 06:38 |
Kryczek | I know it is | Aug 29 06:39 |
Kryczek | but anyway, it is way easier to compromisse software crypto | Aug 29 06:40 |
MinceR | maybe in this case it is | Aug 29 06:40 |
MinceR | then again, what do you intend for it to do if it notices tampering? lock you out of the PC? | Aug 29 06:41 |
Kryczek | yeah I wouldnt enter my passphrase | Aug 29 06:41 |
Kryczek | I can always mount it on another computer, back at the office for example | Aug 29 06:42 |
Kryczek | MinceR: do you use Linux? | Aug 29 06:43 |
Kryczek | I'm not saying Linux is more vulnerable to the kind of attack I'm going to mention but for the sake of clarity it is easier to explain with Linux | Aug 29 06:44 |
MinceR | i do | Aug 29 06:44 |
Kryczek | Linux installers now like the ones of Debian and Ubuntu make it very easy to install on an encrypted partition | Aug 29 06:44 |
Kryczek | but you still have to have a cleartext /boot because of course the BIOS cannot mount your encrypted partition | Aug 29 06:45 |
Kryczek | so your kernel and "initial RAM disk" (initrd) are in cleartext in this /boot | Aug 29 06:45 |
Kryczek | I lnow many people who have installed their computer like that and think they're pretty securre | Aug 29 06:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @suhaib: لقد نسيت صباح الخير !identiverse Good morning in #Arabic | Aug 29 06:46 | |
Kryczek | but it's so easy to modify the initrd to log the passphrase | Aug 29 06:46 |
MinceR | then again, if someone can tamper with your hardware, they can replace the TPM with an altered TPM :> | Aug 29 06:46 |
Kryczek | they could indeed | Aug 29 06:46 |
Kryczek | but difficulty of that | Aug 29 06:47 |
Kryczek | vs easiness (like "finger in the nose") of editing the shell script that asks for your passphrase abd log it or mail it or whatever | Aug 29 06:47 |
Kryczek | s/abd/and | Aug 29 06:47 |
Kryczek | makes the use of TPM more than justified | Aug 29 06:48 |
Kryczek | it's like asking me for my passphrase vs setting up Inception against me :p | Aug 29 06:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Are you following @fabricatorz open hardware project, @qihardware? Thanks to @hypermodern for trickleposting news like @Milkym ... | Aug 29 06:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @q4td “A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station.” — William Faul ... | Aug 29 07:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Thank you, UPS, for being unable to keep your promises. Without comment you changed the delivery date. All plans broken. | Aug 29 07:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kinda cool to run RHEL 6.1 desktop on ASUS EeeBox EB1501P. Nice to see full DPMI support as well. #fb http://ur1.ca/4ze0k | Aug 29 08:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Just rubbing more salt on the wound > http://nd.gd/vr #Cheap #tablets cc @ramanusAsango @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @vikgorani @yasena | Aug 29 08:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma >http://nd.gd/vs What about this one? | Aug 29 08:43 | |
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iophk | FLOSS weekly now requires iTunes and thereby locks out FOSS operating systems | Aug 29 08:57 |
iophk | http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/179 | Aug 29 08:57 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo Community Edition on #N950; http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 #N9 | Aug 29 08:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] na Amazônia chove, mas também FASOL.org.br :-) lá vou eu! sigam-me os bons, @sigafasol | Aug 29 09:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mlinksva Should Fotopedia http://ur1.ca/4zdyi or Wired http://ur1.ca/4zdyu be using !CC NC licensed images? (or anyone, heh) cf http ... | Aug 29 09:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kids today need a licence to tinker http://ur1.ca/4zecq rips apart Microsoft indoctrination in schools (taxpayers' expense) | Aug 29 09:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: The slime of the New York Times | RT http://t.co/vGeW2qf | Aug 29 09:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Kids today need a licence to tinker http://ur1.ca/4zecq rips apart Microsoft indoctrination in schools (taxpayers' expense) | Aug 29 09:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] /me is wondering why stock markets are so damn important for economies | Aug 29 09:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] /recovering from busy family weekend... time to sleep now... g'nite !identiverse | Aug 29 09:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New WikiLeaks Cables Show US Diplomats Promote Genetically Engineered Crops Worldwide http://ur1.ca/4zeef #gmo #corruption //cc @gmwatch | Aug 29 09:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] H-P's One-Year Plan http://ur1.ca/4zees "Let's say you were given a year to kill Hewlett-Packard. Here's how you do it" | Aug 29 09:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Editorial: Patent trolls get rich by killing jobs and robbing consumers http://ur1.ca/4zef8 v @zoobab | Aug 29 09:44 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81948727 | Aug 29 09:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 08:38:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and please provide me for some evidence that GM is bad? | Aug 29 09:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/01/monsanto-gmo-corn-causes-cancer-mammals.php | Aug 29 09:46 |
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MinceR | geekings | Aug 29 09:49 |
Kryczek | geekings gentleman | Aug 29 09:56 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81949652 | Aug 29 09:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 08:54:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz OK, one study is hardly damning, but that doesn't look good for those particular crops. It doesn't show that all #GMO is bad. | Aug 29 09:58 |
schestowitz | It's not just one study, it was merely an example. The main effect of GMO is ownership-passing (seeds monopoly) | Aug 29 09:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] mail about #flossweekly : "FLOSS Weekly appears to now lock out FOSS users by requiring iTunes access to listen to the MP3s" | Aug 29 09:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[...] For example, as far as I can tell there is no way to listen on Ubuntu." I've just tried, the page crashed my browser. #flossweekly | Aug 29 09:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bank Holiday Monday but the weather is just so appalling, so it goes to waste. At least no hurricanes (which the media hyped up)... | Aug 29 10:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon This is how hardware packaging comes together in @qihardware the open way :) http://ping.fm/nM7UL | Aug 29 10:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Future #Firefox Features http://ur1.ca/4zeof About Firefox About http://ur1.ca/4zeoh Firefox 7.0 Beta 2 http://ur1.ca/4zeok | Aug 29 10:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon how hardware packaging comes together in @qihardware the open way :) http://ping.fm/nM7UL /cc: !milkymist | Aug 29 10:04 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81950076 | Aug 29 10:04 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 09:02:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...which is not inherent in the technology, its unethical business practises. No technology is inherently bad, just people. | Aug 29 10:04 |
schestowitz | Agreed | Aug 29 10:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 6 already sees bump in traffic soon after debut http://ur1.ca/4zeor | Aug 29 10:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Oberbürgermeister der Stadt #München, Dr. Christian #Ude zu Warum weiter Freie Software !fs und #OffeneStandards? http://ur1.ca/4z9vr !fsfe | Aug 29 10:06 | |
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Kryczek | $ mplayer http://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp4/twit.cachefly.net/video/floss/floss0179/floss0179_h264b_864x480_500.mp4 | Aug 29 10:06 |
Kryczek | works liike a charm, dont see where the problem is | Aug 29 10:06 |
Kryczek | (about FLOSS Weekly) | Aug 29 10:07 |
schestowitz | http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/28/ubuntu-one-developer-evening-in-manchester-on-thursday/ | Aug 29 10:07 |
schestowitz | quite close to me, but no interest in UbuntuFog | Aug 29 10:07 |
schestowitz | Kryczek: yes, that's the video | Aug 29 10:08 |
schestowitz | AFAIK | Aug 29 10:08 |
Kryczek | ah, right | Aug 29 10:08 |
Kryczek | -vo null ? :p | Aug 29 10:08 |
schestowitz | in the past they had no video version, no official one anyway | Aug 29 10:08 |
schestowitz | Now they have decided to host video too | Aug 29 10:08 |
schestowitz | I was on this show before when it was mp3 only and flash too | Aug 29 10:08 |
schestowitz | Not sure quite what they did now, haven't looked closely yet, but generally it looks better | Aug 29 10:09 |
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Kryczek | "To download Leo Laporte and Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." | Aug 29 10:09 |
Kryczek | agreed that's retarded | Aug 29 10:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Complete Review of #BodhiLinux With Screenshots http://ur1.ca/4zeqa based on #ubuntu | Aug 29 10:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @Minervity: Every Company Microsoft Ever Invested In [Infographic] - http://t.co/lCxTibj | Aug 29 10:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Step 1: check. my Huxley 3D printer kit is in Munich. And now on its way to where I really am - 590 km away. Hopefully tmrw here! #reprap | Aug 29 10:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick Look at Sabayon 6 (GNOME) http://ur1.ca/4zeqr "Sabayon is a customized distribution spin based on Gentoo" | Aug 29 10:18 | |
schestowitz | Kryczek: where is that quote from? | Aug 29 10:19 |
schestowitz | Hehe. | Aug 29 10:20 |
schestowitz | To listen to Floss weekly you MUST NOW use FLOSS | Aug 29 10:20 |
Kryczek | the FLOSS Weekly website when you try to download audio and it redirects you to iTunes or some other content hoster | Aug 29 10:20 |
schestowitz | Or... | Aug 29 10:20 |
schestowitz | proceed to buying prpprietary software if you want to listen to FLOSS Weekly | Aug 29 10:20 |
Kryczek | yeah :( | Aug 29 10:20 |
Kryczek | it's their lossbtw | Aug 29 10:21 |
Kryczek | if i were listening to that podcast | Aug 29 10:21 |
schestowitz | I know | Aug 29 10:21 |
schestowitz | Schwartz read those | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | In twitter | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | Let's see how he reacts | Aug 29 10:22 |
Kryczek | I would script a video download and mencode that to mp3 | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | They'll have to rectify this with a fallback at the least | Aug 29 10:22 |
Kryczek | so... much bigger bw usage for them :) | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | I remember when people made oggs of the show | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | But Leo would not do it himself | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | There would be "unofficial" channels, but they too stopped making oggs foe FLOSS Weekly | Aug 29 10:22 |
schestowitz | They narrow down their audience, which is a shame | Aug 29 10:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What’s Wrong With This Picture? http://ur1.ca/4zer1 "GNU/Linux does make it on the desktop around the world [...] the BRIC" #cnn #applesoft | Aug 29 10:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FLOSS Weekly: "To download Leo Laporte and Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." No FLOSS-using listeners allowed? | Aug 29 10:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @liotier: "Oh, no! Who's going to torture for us now that Arabs are getting rid of their tyrants?" - j.mp/nIRd1o via @LailaLalami | Aug 29 10:23 | |
schestowitz | It's like trying to sell negodolls in Russia | Aug 29 10:23 |
Kryczek | what's a negodoll? Google autocorrects to negro doll... | Aug 29 10:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wenn die CSU die Rückkehr zu Windows in München fordert, muss Microsoft schon ziemlich sauer sein. #limux Rocks. | Aug 29 10:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Defence bolsters search for open source software http://ur1.ca/4zeu8 #australia #foss | Aug 29 10:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thoughts about !KDE Plasma on non-Linux Systems http://ur1.ca/4zeuf would be a distraction. Apple an Microsoft shove their own down throats. | Aug 29 10:31 | |
schestowitz | kyit was a typo | Aug 29 10:32 |
schestowitz | *Kryczek: | Aug 29 10:32 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108105744368410624 | Aug 29 10:32 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108105744368410624 | Aug 29 10:34 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @palmerv0r: @schestowitz interesting article. Typical government. Education bought & paid for by corporate interests. | Aug 29 10:34 |
schestowitz | In the US, rich families use this $500bn/year system to train the next generation into their mindset. | Aug 29 10:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “The Changing Desktop Trends” - A Linux Perspective - !KDE vs #Gnome3 vs #Unity http://ur1.ca/4zeuq | Aug 29 10:34 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/silner/status/108109844703219713 | Aug 29 10:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @silner: @schestowitz: I've always been able to grab Floss Weekly using gpodder - has that ability been removed? - when did that happen? | Aug 29 10:35 |
schestowitz | Don't know what has changed (someone mailed me about it). But it would be funny if FLOSS Weekly required software from patent bully | Aug 29 10:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Demo – Raspberry Pi running Quake 3 http://ur1.ca/4zewr #GNU #Linux #RaspberryPi #Quake | Aug 29 10:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple is now run by a patent aggressor bigger than Jobs himself (C00k is the one who suggested suing Palm). Maybe Apple wants to be Oracle. | Aug 29 10:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxAustralia to live stream SGM http://ur1.ca/4zeyf "for the first time the organisation will be live-streaming the meeting." | Aug 29 10:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox Community Lead Departs :/ http://ur1.ca/4zeyp | Aug 29 10:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva 2011 “Hydrogen” is out! http://ur1.ca/4zeyz "As promised earlier, we are happy to announce that Mandriva 2011 is out." | Aug 29 10:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Personally I worry more about Apple because they have user loyalty; Microsoft doesn't." @bkuhn from the !fsf | Aug 29 10:46 | |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/108111229888901120 | Aug 29 10:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz I´m beginning to hate LXDE. Too inmature. Too many annoyances. Customizing it is a hair-pulling exercise. :-/ | Aug 29 10:49 |
schestowitz | http://www.goldmansachs666.com/2011/08/lets-get-politicalgovernment-should.html | Aug 29 11:01 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dylan Ratigan Interviews Director Charles Ferguson - How Wall Street Took Over Government http://ur1.ca/4zf3g http://ur1.ca/4zf3j #us | Aug 29 11:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One year ago I wrote: Hewlett-Packard Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/1xagk After #MarkHurd got kicked out | Aug 29 11:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP Software run by 20-year #Microsoft veteran since last year http://ur1.ca/4zf41 | Aug 29 11:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @schestowitz: "To download Leo Laporte & Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." No FLOSS-using listeners allowed? | Aug 29 11:08 | |
Kryczek | maybe FLOSS users don't need to listen to FLOSS Weekly and should instead focus on Proprietary Software Weekly :p | Aug 29 11:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How to make an intelligent blockbuster and not alienate people http://gu.com/p/3xepq | Aug 29 11:18 | |
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schestowitz | LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Yqzk1-HQvDM | Aug 29 11:19 |
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schestowitz | And all the HAARP k00ks are at it again | Aug 29 11:19 |
schestowitz | Kryczek: FLOSS weekly was sponsored by Microsoft for a while | Aug 29 11:20 |
schestowitz | Fod Sync | Aug 29 11:20 |
schestowitz | !google techrights floss ford sync | Aug 29 11:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ford and Microsoft Distort “Open Source” | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/10/sync-cheapens-openness/ | Aug 29 11:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Audio/Video | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/audiovideo/ | Aug 29 11:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2011 June 09 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/09/ | Aug 29 11:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Links 9/6/2011: Millennius Sells GNU/Linux PCs ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/09/snapshots-in-ext4/ | Aug 29 11:20 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81954226 | Aug 29 11:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Kipngetich Ibrahim Ngeno (eebrah)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 10:06:58 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: "To download Leo Laporte & Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." No FLOSS-using listeners allowed? | Aug 29 11:20 |
Kryczek | lol :) | Aug 29 11:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/8/2011: Mandriva 2011, Raspberry Pi (Linux Board) Runs Quake 3 http://ur1.ca/4zf5x !techrights | Aug 29 11:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 29/8/2011: Mandriva 2011, Raspberry Pi (Linux Board) Runs Quake 3 http://ur1.ca/4zf5x #techrights | Aug 29 11:28 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/silner/status/108120892965527552 | Aug 29 11:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @silner: @schestowitz Does @merlyn know? | Aug 29 11:39 |
schestowitz | I don't know. I do know it's now him who's responsible for redesign, I like @merlyn and reckon he'd say something | Aug 29 11:40 |
schestowitz | *not him | Aug 29 11:40 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/108125054784651264 | Aug 29 11:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz FLOSS Weekly: "To download Leo Laporte and @merlyn FLOSS Weekly, you need to have #iTunes." No #FLOSS-using listeners allowed? | Aug 29 11:41 |
schestowitz | AFAIK the MP4... | Aug 29 11:41 |
schestowitz | Well, MPEG-LA | Aug 29 11:41 |
schestowitz | So proprietary codecs with patents | Aug 29 11:41 |
schestowitz | That Linux cannot provided legally | Aug 29 11:41 |
schestowitz | But I don't know what codec they use, the enclosure only provides a faint clue | Aug 29 11:41 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/8WpUk.jpg | Aug 29 11:45 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "You wanna have a fight with ME?" http://i.imgur.com/DytDI.gif #funny | Aug 29 11:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Windows Servers and Workstations are Vulnerable” http://ur1.ca/4zfc1 #windows #microsoft #security | Aug 29 12:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] “Windows Servers and Workstations are Vulnerable” http://ur1.ca/4zfc1 | Aug 29 12:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] George Osborne warns #taxcheats: 'I will find you & your money' http://gu.com/p/3xgx3 - why not start with the list of political donors? | Aug 29 12:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #UKriots: how do Boris Johnson's Bullingdon antics compare? http://gu.com/p/3x63e | Aug 29 12:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Current story being spun about wild cables, including from Spiegel, is significantly incorrect. | Aug 29 12:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How did The Coalition, a political satire so preposterous it's beyond parody, ever get commissioned? http://gu.com/p/3xfk5 | Aug 29 12:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks statement on the 9th month of cablegate and the release of 133,887 new cables http://t.co/VdcJ24r | Aug 29 12:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] collect.kde.org is now fully functional; chinese planet kde is live; fixed a bug in tasks widget; worked on virtual keyboard. good start! | Aug 29 12:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] oh yeah, and three blog posts .. and yet my TODO is still far too long :) | Aug 29 12:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.2.31-rc is out: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-August/021136.html | Aug 29 12:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Vidalia 0.2.14 is out: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/vidalia-0214-out | Aug 29 12:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @meanmicio Richard Stallman declares #gnuhealth a GNU official package http://bit.ly/oFMMmz !gnu_solidario !gnu #tryton | Aug 29 12:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Torbutton 1.4.1 Released: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/torbutton-141-released | Aug 29 12:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Rain has stopped. Time to get out of NH and back to Boston! | Aug 29 12:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @zuargo [PLASMOIDE] DAISY: MÁS QUE UN DOCK PARA !KDE http://ur1.ca/4zffw !KDEla | Aug 29 12:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Corporate Press Turns Against Patents But Forgets to Stress #Microsoft and #Apple Are an Integral Part of the Problem http://ur1.ca/4zfgi | Aug 29 12:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporate Press Turns Against Patents But Forgets to Stress Microsoft and Apple Are Problem http://ur1.ca/4zfgi #swpats #linux #android | Aug 29 12:33 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81958803 | Aug 29 12:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Stefan (faither)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 11:27:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz There's plenty wrong with this picture. So much in fact that one should just ignore it rather than giving it any mention at all | Aug 29 12:33 |
schestowitz | indeed | Aug 29 12:33 |
schestowitz | Ouch | Aug 29 12:34 |
schestowitz | About FLOSS Weekly: | Aug 29 12:34 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/silner/status/108135278107049984 | Aug 29 12:34 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @silner: @schestowitz the worrying thing is no error shows up anywhere so U dont notice it's not fetching until sum1 points it out cc @merlyn | Aug 29 12:34 |
schestowitz | Seems like there will be some hard talk there today about their formats | Aug 29 12:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @faither indeed | Aug 29 12:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Tor 0.2.2.31-rc is out: t.co/88Gm987 | Torbutton 1.4.1 Released: t.co/1qEoBtr | Vidalia 0.2.14 is out: t.co/GWCZuIc | Aug 29 12:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Guyana sees WikiLeaks today http://t.co/2RFCFbu | Aug 29 12:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !iwikileaks was under "Denial of Service (DOS) attack during the first 36 hours." http://ur1.ca/4zfhk | Aug 29 12:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I write this letter to commend Wikileaks founder Mr. Julian Assange in his brave role" http://ur1.ca/4zfho | Aug 29 12:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 30 new revelations from around the world http://t.co/iO9Ewe5 #wlfind | Aug 29 12:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on my tests, http://www.developer.nokia.com runs Windows/Microsoft. it has just been cracked, just like Nokia (cracked by MSFT moles). | Aug 29 12:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia's developer network hacked http://ur1.ca/4zfi5 tell the #Microsoft #mole #elop to move the site over to #gnu #linux | Aug 29 12:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @alafroiskiotos @comzeradd: !OpenSource Software at Walt Disney Animation Studios http://t.co/xfv6Bhi | Aug 29 12:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz: Nokia's developer network hacked http://ur1.ca/4zfi5 | Aug 29 12:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bombs to be transfered quietly to avoid allegations USG is helping Israel prepare for a strike against Iran http://t.co/Dio5c1I | Aug 29 12:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia MediaWatch: Poor research - not our choice, the journo concerned, Phil Dorling had been in hospital for an extended period | Aug 29 13:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Why Political Liberty Depends on Software Freedom More Than Ever http://tinyurl.com/3ch5onf #gnu #freedombox #internet #moglen #linux | Aug 29 13:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Worm spreading via RDP http://tinyurl.com/3e4xet3 #security #computer #network #windows | Aug 29 13:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Tetris Free hits !Android Market today from Android Community by Shane McGlaun http://goo.gl/vCJsb | Aug 29 13:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] S'pore elects a new president: Tantamount to a humiliation http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/08/singapore-elects-new-president #fb | Aug 29 13:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @jwildeboer: Wenn die CSU die Rückkehr zu Windows in München fordert, muss Microsoft schon ziemlich sauer sein. #limux Rocks. | Aug 29 14:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source is illegal? | http://t.co/o9SmHtb #gov20 #govoss | Aug 29 14:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] counting the hours till UPS delivers the Huxley 3D printer kit ... | Aug 29 14:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.1-rc4 http://lwn.net/Articles/456684/rss | Aug 29 14:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Social media used to create beautiful music. Someone should tell the politicians not to ban it... http://wmk.me/nIsX8C | Aug 29 14:14 | |
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undetectable | hi | Aug 29 14:18 |
undetectable | is anyone here | Aug 29 14:18 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[cyberkiller/@cyberkiller] !Wikileaks o socjotechnice promowania #GMO w !Polska ce http://bit.ly/qnaEI0 !ecology | Aug 29 14:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink Social media used to create beautiful music. Someone should tell the politicians not to ban it... http://wmk.me/nIsX8C | Aug 29 14:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How WikiLeaks changed the role of journalism | SocialMedia http://t.co/f1FHwXb | Aug 29 14:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables crowd search live results: http://t.co/60O8foX | Aug 29 14:31 | |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/UlrikaHall/statuses/108098573345882113 | Aug 29 14:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @UlrikaHall: This is scary! - US State Department Attacks Free Software on #Microsoft’s Behalf http://j.mp/pgLhgQ #in #open #source | Aug 29 14:40 |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/isleofmandan/statuses/108084108160274432 | Aug 29 14:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @isleofmandan: RT @wood5y Is supporting Microsoft & rubbishing #opensource official US foreign policy? http://t.co/pHeJkkT | Aug 29 14:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] (video) Excellent example of why cables must be published in full (note, NYT stopped quickly) http://t.co/4ertzrT | Aug 29 14:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note: ALL Australian cables have been in the process of release since last night. Live as soon as mirrors sync. | Aug 29 14:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] On Slashdot's Lost Taco and Apple's Big Turnover http://tinyurl.com/3d9ck64 #linux #opensource | Aug 29 14:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chakra 2011.09 has just been released http://chakra-project.org/ | Aug 29 14:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mandriva 2011 released http://lwn.net/Articles/456690/rss | Aug 29 14:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux at 20: the quiet giant http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/8725363/Linux-at-20-the-quiet-giant.html | Aug 29 14:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Untapped: Why the developing world must treat IT as a national resource http://tinyurl.com/3epcg8l #opensource | Aug 29 14:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why would anyone choose to store/rent music remotely and play that back w/ proprietary s/w? http://ur1.ca/4zg0o why not FOSS+local storage? | Aug 29 15:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr PM, what’s in our food? http://ur1.ca/4zg1d #gmo #monopoly | Aug 29 15:18 | |
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iophk | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576535211589514334.html | Aug 29 15:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] How the surveilance state protects the rich: ur1.ca/4zg2j /via @ioerror | Aug 29 15:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How !WikiLeaks has changed the role of #journalism http://ur1.ca/4zg2u | Aug 29 15:26 | |
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schestowitz | iophk1: I linked to it earlier | Aug 29 15:27 |
schestowitz | also see http://ur1.ca/4zf41 | Aug 29 15:27 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Of malware, hot steam, privacy, using one's brain and paedoparanoia: http://rys.io/en/24 | Aug 29 15:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux and the financial crisis http://linux-news.org/?p=2950 "And Linux is one of their favorite tools." | Aug 29 15:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with #Linux http://tinyurl.com/3julf29 | Aug 29 15:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? MS authorized this ad? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewedqvSWaI&feature=youtu.be #fb | Aug 29 15:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @noyesk Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with #Linux http://tinyurl.com/3julf29 | Aug 29 15:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Australia failed Solomons: More than a billion Australian dollars failed to build pol... | SMH http://t.co/9qti1Lc | Aug 29 15:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux: First Impressions http://ur1.ca/4zg4f "freedom of choice for applications and profiles" | Aug 29 15:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Linux 2011 Officially Released, Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/4zg52 Mandriva 2011 is here! http://ur1.ca/4zg53 | Aug 29 15:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[whirli/@whirli] Why is it that the groups !opl and !wl, who champion transparency, have this confusing relationship? | Aug 29 15:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] LibreOffice hackfest in Munich, Sept 2-4: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest2011 | Aug 29 15:44 | |
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iophk | Is Lodsys just a shell run by IV ? | Aug 29 15:48 |
iophk | What is it? | Aug 29 15:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange, has now been detained for 265 days without charge. http://t.co/O7xJWdm | Aug 29 15:49 | |
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schestowitz | iophk: hard to prove | Aug 29 15:50 |
schestowitz | listen to the NPR cast | Aug 29 15:50 |
iophk | What is the URL for the NPR cast? | Aug 29 15:50 |
schestowitz | They share address with satellites of IV | Aug 29 15:50 |
schestowitz | They also use IV patents | Aug 29 15:50 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/81974032 | Aug 29 15:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:43:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz odd, when I first heard about wikileaks, I thought, "Isn't this what journalists are doing already?". Guess I was naive. | Aug 29 15:50 |
schestowitz | !google npr when patent ventures | Aug 29 15:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Intellectual Ventures And The War Over Software Patents : Planet ... | http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/26/138576167/when-patents-attack | Aug 29 15:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Intellectual Ventures, Software Patents, NPR and Innovation Games | http://innovationgames.com/2011/07/intellectual-ventures-software-patents-npr-and-innovation-games/ | Aug 29 15:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Patent trolls, Intellectual Ventures, and innovation seen by NPR | http://marclijour.amplify.com/2011/07/23/patent-trolls-intellectual-ventures-and-innovation-seen-by-npr/ | Aug 29 15:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Software Patent Troll War - NPR Reports from the Battle Front ... | http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/28/the-software-patent-troll-war | Aug 29 15:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Myth Of Cheap !Linux Users http://is.gd/QGzf3x #fb | Aug 29 15:51 | |
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iophk | "When Patents Attack" | Aug 29 15:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US made enormous concession in talks on Czech missile shield http://t.co/eXbrgyW | Aug 29 15:53 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/whats_happened_bizarre_cathedral | Aug 29 15:53 |
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schestowitz | iophk: they have had at least 3 articles and maybe episodes on this subject | Aug 29 15:54 |
schestowitz | It has become a mainstream debate | Aug 29 15:54 |
schestowitz | However, right now they go after trolls | Aug 29 15:54 |
schestowitz | That's a distraction | Aug 29 15:54 |
schestowitz | The corporate media, like CNN, satill bats for the Mac vs PC (MSFT(US)+APPL(US)) delusion | Aug 29 15:55 |
iophk | It can lead to going after the sw patents themselves | Aug 29 15:55 |
schestowitz | So they don't point out how the corporations this media runs for actually make themselves a private venture with the patrnt syste | Aug 29 15:55 |
schestowitz | Google is lucky to have become rich enough fast enough to buy some patents and join The Club | Aug 29 15:55 |
schestowitz | It bought an extry ticket for almost 20 billion | Aug 29 15:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] DDB excited to get together with former head of German intelligence. http://t.co/DqXuYP3 | Aug 29 15:56 | |
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schestowitz | LOL | Aug 29 15:56 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81974403 | Aug 29 15:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:48:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Re. qualifications, I have been invited by a top-notch university and research institute to give a talk in the 2nd half of... | Aug 29 15:56 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81974494 | Aug 29 15:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:49:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...October on "IP litigation and licensing in the mobile devices industry" in front of doctoral students. Will announce... | Aug 29 15:56 |
schestowitz | LOL | Aug 29 15:56 |
schestowitz | I spoke about his professional background and education | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | He had none in the area | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | Should I feed him? | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81974572 | Aug 29 15:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:50:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...the name of the involved institutions *after* delivering my talk there. They're fine with my qualifications, it seems. | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | I won't feed him.. | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | And notice where he posts | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | identica | Aug 29 15:57 |
schestowitz | So that people in twitter don't see his criticis | Aug 29 15:57 |
iophk | Don't feed the trolls | Aug 29 15:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Heute geschlossen" - wie ein Modellbaushop in Detmold den Nachmittag meiner Kinder zerstört. #fail | Aug 29 15:58 | |
schestowitz | He has 16 followers in identica | Aug 29 15:58 |
schestowitz | iophk: right, I won't... | Aug 29 15:58 |
schestowitz | He tries to discourage those who expose him | Aug 29 15:58 |
schestowitz | This time he did a poor job, he didn't actually refute what I said | Aug 29 15:58 |
schestowitz | He has no qualifications | Aug 29 15:59 |
schestowitz | so he diverges | Aug 29 15:59 |
schestowitz | "I don't have kids, but I have nephews.." | Aug 29 15:59 |
iophk | worse than Enderle | Aug 29 15:59 |
schestowitz | So I am a father" | Aug 29 15:59 |
schestowitz | He's mates with Enderle | Aug 29 15:59 |
schestowitz | In Twitter at least.. | Aug 29 16:00 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/socialarchive/status/108189909432532992 | Aug 29 16:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @socialarchive: @schestowitz ...October on "IP litigation and licensing in the mobile devices industry" in front of doctoral... http://t.co/EdrT0wY | Aug 29 16:00 |
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schestowitz | Someone it reaches twitter | Aug 29 16:01 |
schestowitz | When I was 22 I gave a lecture to professors in London, so? | Aug 29 16:01 |
schestowitz | This is Florian for you.. | Aug 29 16:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pfizer threatens to withdraw drugs from Philippine market if price controls are imposed http://t.co/u5rltKi #wlfind | Aug 29 16:01 | |
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schestowitz | And Groklaw pwn3d him for episodes like these | Aug 29 16:01 |
schestowitz | Where he goes egomanics | Aug 29 16:01 |
schestowitz | *maniac | Aug 29 16:01 |
iophk | Groklaw does a good job of refuting his noise. | Aug 29 16:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @jsmith: Just a reminder to vote for your favorites in the Linux Journal Reader's Choice survey at ur1.ca/4xm8c | Aug 29 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Feds Raid #Gibson; Musicians Now Worried The Gov't Will Take Their Guitars Away http://is.gd/2KzWIH | Aug 29 16:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What's your default? | http://red.ht/rtfkA2 #hackmanagement #openness | Aug 29 16:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Nestle was buying Mugabe farm milk in unmarked tanker - prev. owner forced to sell farm cheap http://t.co/tC4aUjC via @treisiroon | Aug 29 16:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Boards with an apple-shaped logo on them to facilitate #Linux despite anti-features http://ur1.ca/4zg87 | Aug 29 16:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Catholic clergy 'abused children for decades in County Donegal' http://gu.com/p/3xgah - is anyone surprised? | Aug 29 16:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Diplomatic cables claim Australia has failed to stabilise 'fragile' Solomons http://ur1.ca/4zg8e !wikileaks breaks news | Aug 29 16:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Pfizer threatens to withdraw drugs from Philippine market if price controls are imposed http://t.co/u5rltKi #wlfind | Aug 29 16:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] U.S. Amb: eroded trust in NZ thereby threatening intelligence cooperation response: bully tactics http://t.co/KNUeZWI #wlfind | Aug 29 16:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks U.S. Amb: "eroded trust in NZ thereby threatening intelligence cooperation" response: "bully tactics" http://t.co/KNUeZWI | Aug 29 16:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.1-rc4 http://ur1.ca/4zg8w | Aug 29 16:14 | |
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ender_2600 | Scam alert: Casino Niagra | Aug 29 16:18 |
ender_2600 | Casino Niagra is owned by Fallsview Casino Resort | Aug 29 16:18 |
ender_2600 | Fallsview Casino Resort is owned by the Government of Ontario, via the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation | Aug 29 16:18 |
ender_2600 | It is also owned by Falls Management Company | Aug 29 16:19 |
ender_2600 | here is what happens | Aug 29 16:19 |
ender_2600 | you go there, they require a form of ID with a tracking chip | Aug 29 16:19 |
ender_2600 | if you win and you're not authorized, they track you and send cops after you | Aug 29 16:19 |
ender_2600 | those cops give you a bullshit ticket for anything they can find | Aug 29 16:20 |
ender_2600 | then they also alert the ontario 'dmv' to add that your car needs an emissions check too | Aug 29 16:20 |
ender_2600 | since its all connected there is no way that such a coincidence can occur without the government hand in it | Aug 29 16:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware launches cloud-packaged Postgres (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/pWVrds | Aug 29 16:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft wants TPC-E metric to measure database availability (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/qe2XtJ | Aug 29 16:21 | |
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ender_2600 | the same company that controls your driving records also controls the cops and owns the casino | Aug 29 16:21 |
ender_2600 | you win $300 by chance, then have to pay a ticket, get your car re-certified and purchase your next set of stickers | Aug 29 16:23 |
ender_2600 | they won't even let you in without RFID implanted ID | Aug 29 16:23 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The NYC subway got its mojo back more quickly than the Amtrak northeast corridor (NYTimes) http://nyti.ms/r0Bw2z | Aug 29 16:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] DuckDuckGo is officially awesome: using the !doi bang and it takes you straight to the paper http://duckduckgo.com/bang.html !science | Aug 29 16:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In Australia, Apple's lawyers decide who can sell which tablet. #justayin | Aug 29 16:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'll be speaking at Ignite Warsaw on Sept 5th. http://www.ignitewarsaw.org/ | Aug 29 16:33 | |
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ender_2600 | another idiot (thistleweb) accusing me of nymshifting on identica | Aug 29 16:34 |
ender_2600 | @qubitarkhive is my sites name | Aug 29 16:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Indian Muslim: a WikiLeaks perspective http://t.co/oHqt0RS | Aug 29 16:36 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81977173 | Aug 29 16:37 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @Adriaan de Groot (adridg)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 15:21:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you are confused. Plasma on non-linux has very little to do with win or osx and much more with the bsds and solaris. | Aug 29 16:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trolling alert: Microsoft booster Gavin Clarke/The Register is provoking #Linux proponents, spinning #Android as a Bad Thing. #Orlowskiism | Aug 29 16:38 | |
schestowitz | I remember some win7 prototyping with plasma :-) (like touchscreen demos) | Aug 29 16:38 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108197251343585280 | Aug 29 16:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz Well it may be useful when I'm on my laptop away from the massive storage of my desktop. shame abt upper limit of 22k tracks | Aug 29 16:38 |
schestowitz | Storage these days (e.g. SD cards) by far outweighs audio files | Aug 29 16:39 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108197406427975681 | Aug 29 16:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz I've mostly been using Last.fm to listen while away from home | Aug 29 16:39 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join EFF for "Patent Trolls and You: EFF Virtual Boot Camp for App Developers" https://eff.org/r.5Bb | Aug 29 16:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] [via @ABSCBNNews] WikiLeaks cable: Cebuanos tolerated death squads? http://t.co/qcHafoE | Aug 29 16:41 | |
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AdmFubar_ | hi alll | Aug 29 16:43 |
AdmFubar_ | found this thought it might be of interest | Aug 29 16:43 |
AdmFubar_ | http://feeds.cio.com/~r/cio/feed/articles/~3/TqQT9XyXO4Q/Microsoft_Sues_to_Prevent_Motorola_Sales_in_U.S. | Aug 29 16:43 |
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AdmFubar_ | later all | Aug 29 16:43 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FUD trend to watch out for (seen coming from longtime anti-Linux trolls): Android is hostile towards Linux, thus Linux loses in mobile. #fud | Aug 29 16:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Untapped: Why the developing world must treat IT as a national resource http://ur1.ca/4zgcx reason for for #freesoftware in #egov | Aug 29 16:46 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Untapped: Why the developing world must treat IT as a national resource — Cloud Computing News .::. Size~: 89.54 KB | Aug 29 16:46 |
iophk1 | IIRC Microsoft and Facebook used the same marketing company to smear Google. Where is a good description or link? | Aug 29 16:46 |
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schestowitz | yes | Aug 29 16:48 |
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schestowitz | Germany's press covered this recently | Aug 29 16:48 |
iophk1 | In English? | Aug 29 16:48 |
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schestowitz | no | Aug 29 16:50 |
iophk | What's a good link in English? I can't remember the name right now. | Aug 29 16:50 |
schestowitz | !google techrights Burson-Marsteller | Aug 29 16:51 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft Caught Paying Burson-Marsteller to Smear ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/08/burson-marsteller-busted/ | Aug 29 16:51 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Daemonisation of Google in the Press Orchestrated by ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/10/sock-puppets-of-microsoft/ | Aug 29 16:51 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - ES: Facebook Actualmente Propiedad Parcial de ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/15/facebook-astroturfing_es/ | Aug 29 16:51 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - News Reporters Bribed to Spread Google FUD | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/11/jim-goldman-propaganda/ | Aug 29 16:51 |
schestowitz | http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000850.html | Aug 29 16:51 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lauren Weinstein's Blog: Attempt to Involve Me in Anti-Google "Astroturf Lies" PR Campaign .::. Size~: 12.03 KB | Aug 29 16:51 |
iophk | thanks | Aug 29 16:52 |
schestowitz | some people working for corproate media participated | Aug 29 16:53 |
schestowitz | They were bribed for it | Aug 29 16:54 |
schestowitz | It's like a Gates Strategy | Aug 29 16:54 |
ender_2600 | all microsoft would have to do to really demonize google is to tell people they are the same | Aug 29 16:54 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 16:54 |
schestowitz | But from Microsoft, bullying and corrupting journalism | Aug 29 16:54 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: LOL | Aug 29 16:54 |
iophk | Was that the same company that Facebook used? | Aug 29 16:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Defence conducts #OpenOffice .org trial http://ur1.ca/4zgd9 #australia #egov | Aug 29 16:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @bo9lo7 This is how to treat a Mac http://mrte.ch/dqz #mac #apple | Aug 29 16:54 | |
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schestowitz | it's not a company | Aug 29 16:54 |
schestowitz | They don't make anything | Aug 29 16:54 |
schestowitz | I'd call it a gang | Aug 29 16:55 |
schestowitz | Shills joined together don't make up a company | Aug 29 16:55 |
iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/facebook-pr-firm-google | Aug 29 16:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook paid PR firm to smear Google | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 221.05 KB | Aug 29 16:56 |
iophk | http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/facebook-admits-to-antigoogle-smear-campaign-20110513-1el5t.html | Aug 29 16:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook admits to anti-Google smear campaign .::. Size~: 130.15 KB | Aug 29 16:56 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/29/citrix_cloud_com_update/ | Aug 29 16:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cloud.com goes open source • The Register .::. Size~: 24.93 KB | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | More Microsoft promotion as "open" | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | "Open cloud" | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | Like monkey putting on fur" | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | Or naked man getting naked | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | LOL | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | What a PR nonsense | Aug 29 16:58 |
schestowitz | Like Faceboom and their 'open source datacentre | Aug 29 16:59 |
schestowitz | just openwashing | Aug 29 16:59 |
schestowitz | "Microsoft love imminent" | Aug 29 16:59 |
iophk | . | Aug 29 17:00 |
schestowitz | NET | Aug 29 17:00 |
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schestowitz | bbl | Aug 29 17:02 |
iophk | bbl? | Aug 29 17:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] How to upgrade memory in your Mac http://youtu.be/NCybRFMW7-M #youtube | Aug 29 17:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekk | Aug 29 17:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekk Who were crude Maori stereotypes ;) | Aug 29 17:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #seriousbusiness If I Had a Rocket Launcher - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Had_a_Rocket_Launcher | Aug 29 17:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can You Guess Which Beloved Retro Game Just Landed on !Android? ⚫ by Aaron Tilton http://goo.gl/ZOizv | Aug 29 17:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Finally! Google Opt-Out! ur1.ca/4zggp | Aug 29 17:09 | |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/BB7bE.jpg | Aug 29 17:10 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Finally! Google Opt-Out! ur1.ca/4zggp !googlefree | Aug 29 17:11 | |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108204255327948800 | Aug 29 17:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz maybe...when i can get a 500GB SD card... | Aug 29 17:11 |
schestowitz | getting this size/volume of a 'cloud' would be expensive | Aug 29 17:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 looking back that dent makes no sense, cut off the last part. I think I was saying that there may be black stormtroopers | Aug 29 17:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Collaboration [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/5u2ZZ.jpg | Aug 29 17:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 going on what we knew at the time ;) | Aug 29 17:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Our conference room feels a little empty now that all the !dbd bricks have been sent to #Nintendo. | Aug 29 17:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekk I agree, but there were no visibly non-white characters until Lando...unless we count Chewbacca ;) | Aug 29 17:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Diamond aircraft used for civilian surveillance, sold to China,US,Saudi Arabia #wlfind http://t.co/uPiscz9 via @nicsha | Aug 29 17:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 we can assume that chewie is white, there's no reason for melatonin to be present if the skin is never exposed to sun | Aug 29 17:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Perfect Tools for the Linux Geek's Blog ⚫ GUILLERMO GARRON http://ping.fm/lBcvN | Aug 29 17:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 on a separate note, lando has to be the most interesting char. in the series if only b/c he owns an entire planet | Aug 29 17:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @evgenymorozov: A critique of Zizek's critique of WikiLeaks http://t.co/6eUqDmO ($) | Aug 29 17:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @evgenymorozov: How did a brochure for a German company advertising a program for intercepting emails make it to Gaddafi's bunker? ... | Aug 29 17:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An LLVM backend for Sparse http://lwn.net/Articles/456709/rss | Aug 29 17:46 | |
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iophk | http://andrewoneverything.com/the-overlearning-the-game-problem | Aug 29 17:53 |
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iophk | "Long gone is the original purpose of patents" | Aug 29 17:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Coverage of the #TAL #PlayOgg petition, and a round-up of #patents news: http://ur1.ca/4za7m | Aug 29 18:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How patent abuse crushes innovation | rabble.ca .::. Size~: 41.66 KB | Aug 29 18:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Honduran anti-coup activist found decapitated, country's FBI detained him earlier that day http://t.co/xHbtCD4 #wlfind | Aug 29 18:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality God dammit I want an enraged ape | Aug 29 18:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The !Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 • by Luis http://ping.fm/Wi1hh | Aug 29 18:11 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 (part 1) | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.74 KB | Aug 29 18:11 |
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Snit | Hey... my ban is lifted? When did that happen? | Aug 29 18:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I feel honoured to be in this little movie together with the real stars! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhYMRtqvMg8 | Aug 29 18:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] #lovethis RT @JScottEdwards: At grocery store wearing @linuxfoundation T-shirt. Guy behind me says "I just bought a computer with Linux." | Aug 29 18:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] RT @johnsu01 Coverage of the #TAL #PlayOgg petition, and a round-up of #patents news: http://ur1.ca/4za7m | Aug 29 18:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Holy crap. My Drug Dealer quote is in the movie. I | Aug 29 18:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @johnsu01 Coverage of the #TAL #PlayOgg petition, and a round-up of #patents news: http://ur1.ca/4za7m | Aug 29 18:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why do we need the word "advertorial" ? It's just an advert | Aug 29 18:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/456710/rss | Aug 29 18:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Five Good Reasons to Try Mandriva Linux 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3f7ahxf #linux #opensource | Aug 29 18:51 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five Good Reasons to Try Mandriva Linux 2011 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 82.42 KB | Aug 29 18:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] a distro that has a shell running on top of bash that essentially provides a better interface for a lot of ops | Aug 29 19:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's REAL hard to find & report spam when even typing in a keyword you KNOW is used to search, returns nothing #Identica @support | Aug 29 19:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] think I just had a brilliant idea. a layer over bash that lets you be more productive | Aug 29 19:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] so say you're working in bash, and you want a program for ail, but you don't know what's installed. Press Super and it opens up a menu | Aug 29 19:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] like a vertical version of the gnome menu(Applications/Places/System) and separated from there | Aug 29 19:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] places will open in $MENUNAME_FM, so you can set it to mc, emacs dired, etc. | Aug 29 19:13 | |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108210364444971009?iid=am-82952056813146343362020419&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Aug 29 19:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz well 128GB SD cards are still too expensive and I only have 12GB in my mp3 player… | Aug 29 19:15 |
schestowitz | iophk: thanks for the link | Aug 29 19:15 |
schestowitz | we need to amass examples of names of peoplike like O'Reilly and Cuban who demand patent reform | Aug 29 19:17 |
schestowitz | Google helped in a way too | Aug 29 19:17 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108213831808978944?iid=am-212939495113146351628568821&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Aug 29 19:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz if i could I'd use my own server + Subsonic + port forwarding | Aug 29 19:18 |
schestowitz | That's always a possibility, it has other advantages too | Aug 29 19:18 |
schestowitz | iophk: https://twitter.com/merlyn/status/108234508964335616 | Aug 29 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @merlyn: @schestowitz Are you nuts? There's a link there for "subscribe to audio" and "subscribe to video" and "listen to mp3" and "watch mp4" | Aug 29 19:19 |
schestowitz | Is this true? | Aug 29 19:19 |
schestowitz | Like I said at the start, this is something sent me by mail. I tried verifying 3 times, but in all three the page crashed my browser | Aug 29 19:20 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/108221227507777536 | Aug 29 19:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @wikileaks: Honduran anti-coup activist found decapitated, country's FBI detained him earlier that day http://t.co/xHbtCD4 #wlfind | Aug 29 19:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 19:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] watching a peaceful summer sunset over the swiss countryside... gorgeous... making some food :) | Aug 29 19:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ Jugglenaut Warn me when they are anti-intellectual-property, and we'll form a posse and put a stop to it. You got your six-shooter? | Aug 29 19:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@Jugglenaut @BytePatent well, aren't you quite the scary bunch? We love you too. :-) //cc @zoobab | Aug 29 19:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @jfaawaylo: Post Citrix Acquisition, Cloud.com’s CloudStack Goes 100% !OpenSource http://t.co/2Dj1RFg | Aug 29 19:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @ianhuckabee: Writers try to save 'Notting Hill' bookshop http://t.co/fftDKEc | Aug 29 19:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 240 Wikileaks cables on pharmaceutical data exclusivity http://keionline.org/node/1210 #bigpharma #corruption !wikileaks | Aug 29 19:28 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 19:28 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 240 Wikileaks cables on pharmaceutical data exclusivity | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 74.03 KB | Aug 29 19:28 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/merlyn/status/108242985719840769 | Aug 29 19:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @merlyn: @schestowitz Looks like they're working on the website while it's live. Mistake. I'm sure it'll get resolved. | Aug 29 19:30 |
schestowitz | Thanks, that didn't come out right after I had merely pasted an E-mail sent to me. | Aug 29 19:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tracyrreed: Never used a desktop publishing program before but pretty impressed with Scribus. Easier to use than expected.. | Aug 29 19:31 | |
schestowitz | iophk: ^^ | Aug 29 19:31 |
schestowitz | They'll sort it out | Aug 29 19:31 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BytePatent/status/108244294791462912 | Aug 29 19:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @BytePatent: @schestowitz - Huh? I was complaining about the GOP being anti-science (not a stretch) @Jugglenaut brought up guns! @zoobab | Aug 29 19:31 |
schestowitz | Oh, I lost the context. Best wishes anyway... | Aug 29 19:32 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] New Python/Django-based TorStatus. Want to help out? Read more here: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-pythondjango-based-torstatus | Aug 29 19:33 | |
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schestowitz | Hi, DaemonFC | Aug 29 19:34 |
DaemonFC | hello | Aug 29 19:34 |
schestowitz | My Intel driver coredumped again today | Aug 29 19:35 |
*DaemonFC is watching a particularly annoying bug | Aug 29 19:35 | |
DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/824842 | Aug 29 19:35 |
schestowitz | It's ythe 'free' driver | Aug 29 19:35 |
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DaemonFC | I'm not that familiar with Intel | Aug 29 19:35 |
schestowitz | At least I set up this server to boot up quickly and reopen everything | Aug 29 19:35 |
DaemonFC | my systems only use radeon | Aug 29 19:35 |
schestowitz | ok | Aug 29 19:36 |
DaemonFC | all the serious bugs in radeon, at least for my hardware, have been fixed for months | Aug 29 19:36 |
schestowitz | brb | Aug 29 19:36 |
schestowitz | I want to read some news, then I need to do some work :/ | Aug 29 19:36 |
schestowitz | It's bank holiday here | Aug 29 19:36 |
schestowitz | I went to the gym and it was closed at 6pm (!!!) | Aug 29 19:36 |
schestowitz | Which is unusual | Aug 29 19:36 |
DaemonFC | there's quite a few of those here | Aug 29 19:36 |
schestowitz | I ended up running around the river instead | Aug 29 19:36 |
DaemonFC | piss everyone off because they still have to work but the banks and post offices are closed | Aug 29 19:37 |
schestowitz | bamnk holiday.... | Aug 29 19:37 |
schestowitz | For the bankers | Aug 29 19:37 |
schestowitz | They get the holiday | Aug 29 19:37 |
DaemonFC | when I'm elected to whatever, I will push to repeal them | Aug 29 19:37 |
DaemonFC | :) | Aug 29 19:37 |
schestowitz | We get eviction notices ;) | Aug 29 19:37 |
schestowitz | day to pray foe the bankers :-) | Aug 29 19:37 |
DaemonFC | can't get mail because it's.....Martin Luther King Day | Aug 29 19:37 |
DaemonFC | well shit, now it's Presidents Day | Aug 29 19:38 |
DaemonFC | and before you know it, it will be Columbus Day | Aug 29 19:38 |
DaemonFC | they also get Veterans Day off | Aug 29 19:39 |
DaemonFC | which is stupid just because they're bankers and postal workers | Aug 29 19:39 |
DaemonFC | then if one of them falls on a Sunday, then the bankers take Monday off and the postal workers take Saturday | Aug 29 19:40 |
DaemonFC | :) | Aug 29 19:40 |
DaemonFC | sorry you can't cash your paycheck, it's Arbor Day and we're taking a paid day off with federal bailout money | Aug 29 19:41 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Aug 29 19:41 |
DaemonFC | don't worry, jono will sort this out | Aug 29 19:42 |
DaemonFC | he's papered over bigger messes than this | Aug 29 19:42 |
DaemonFC | you know schestowitz, it would be awesome if qtwebkit could be sorted out | Aug 29 19:44 |
DaemonFC | I have a hunch that any distribution that ships KDE 4.7 will ship the defective version of qtwebkit that crashes when flash is loaded | Aug 29 19:45 |
DaemonFC | :) | Aug 29 19:45 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 240 WikiLeaks cables of big pharma exclusivity deals http://t.co/gTV9vjR | Aug 29 19:46 | |
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DaemonFC | the quality of QT seems to be deteriorating | Aug 29 19:48 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: how so? | Aug 29 19:48 |
DaemonFC | Nokia can no longer be trusted to maintain it | Aug 29 19:48 |
schestowitz | konq works well for me now | Aug 29 19:48 |
schestowitz | I use firefox only in rare cases | Aug 29 19:48 |
DaemonFC | khtml works as well as it ever has | Aug 29 19:48 |
DaemonFC | but distributions like Kubuntu are promoting rekonq | Aug 29 19:49 |
schestowitz | nokia offloaded it | Aug 29 19:49 |
schestowitz | I ran back to old ff | Aug 29 19:49 |
schestowitz | 3.6 | Aug 29 19:49 |
schestowitz | Iran back :-) | Aug 29 19:49 |
schestowitz | to I ran | Aug 29 19:49 |
schestowitz | 3.6 and iceweasel 3.5 on the debian box | Aug 29 19:50 |
DaemonFC | I have Firefox 7, also known as Firefox 4, release 4 | Aug 29 19:50 |
DaemonFC | ;) | Aug 29 19:50 |
schestowitz | Newer versions made me lose ... hmmm........ ... maybe over 10 hours in total | Aug 29 19:50 |
schestowitz | over the course of 2-3 months | Aug 29 19:50 |
schestowitz | I never go back there | Aug 29 19:50 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: :-) | Aug 29 19:50 |
DaemonFC | the most obvious change in Firefox releases now is the version number gets bumped with no visible improvements | Aug 29 19:50 |
schestowitz | I maDE A habit | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | Foing to hel->about | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | to see version number | Aug 29 19:51 |
DaemonFC | and all your extensions bail because they aren't marked compatible | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | It's the only way to know | Aug 29 19:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @mikkohypponen: Forged SSL certicate for google.com/GMail reported by @hkashfi: http://t.co/vcmRLFY (and it's not from Comodo this ti ... | Aug 29 19:51 | |
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schestowitz | I used to get updates from ppa and universe | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | conflicting ones | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | Nightmare | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | yes, extensions | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | That's why Iran back | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | And they all work again | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | it's like a journey back in time | Aug 29 19:51 |
schestowitz | Wish I never tried to be 'ahead' | Aug 29 19:52 |
DaemonFC | I use the extension compatibility reporter extension :P | Aug 29 19:52 |
schestowitz | I now stay with what works and is not vulnerable | Aug 29 19:52 |
DaemonFC | it overrides all the compatibility markings and forces them to work anyway | Aug 29 19:52 |
schestowitz | until I have to move forward | Aug 29 19:52 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: but they changed the plugins system | Aug 29 19:52 |
schestowitz | Now it's like a web page | Aug 29 19:52 |
schestowitz | yuck! | Aug 29 19:52 |
schestowitz | Like in chrome | Aug 29 19:52 |
DaemonFC | every incompatible extension I've overridden works anyway | Aug 29 19:53 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/9GJ4j.png | Aug 29 19:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Aug 29 19:53 |
DaemonFC | a lot of them simply don't work because the Firefox version number has changed | Aug 29 19:53 |
DaemonFC | not because they are incompatible | Aug 29 19:53 |
schestowitz | I know | Aug 29 19:54 |
DaemonFC | I'm sure there's the odd extension or two out there that really are broken | Aug 29 19:54 |
DaemonFC | but I don't use any | Aug 29 19:54 |
schestowitz | They have to re-release for version bump | Aug 29 19:54 |
schestowitz | That's a problem | Aug 29 19:54 |
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schestowitz | diff new.tar old.tar > chanlog | Aug 29 19:54 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: 6 week releases with no guaranteed extension API compatibility | Aug 29 19:55 |
DaemonFC | there's no way that won't cause hell in one way or another | Aug 29 19:55 |
schestowitz | 'Ell! yeah | Aug 29 19:55 |
DaemonFC | if anything, overriding the compatibility checker and finding that your extension works is just luck | Aug 29 19:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] China building 50 nuclear power plants by 2020 using 60s era technology. Cable shows US works as lobbyist for GE: http://t.co/XED4UKC | Aug 29 19:56 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 19:56 |
DaemonFC | Mozilla has said that eventually they jsut won't display a version number at all | Aug 29 19:56 |
DaemonFC | and the only thing it will tell you is if you're up to date or not | Aug 29 19:56 |
DaemonFC | which is ridiculous | Aug 29 19:56 |
schestowitz | what do you use as primary? | Aug 29 19:57 |
DaemonFC | it will still have an internal version number it just won't display it to you unless you use about:support | Aug 29 19:57 |
DaemonFC | Firefox still | Aug 29 19:57 |
schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/08/29/wintel-tries-to-restore-former-glory-ultrabooks/ | Aug 29 19:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wintel Tries to Restore Former Glory – Ultrabooks at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 33.98 KB | Aug 29 19:57 |
DaemonFC | it has problems but possible replacements have all tended to fail or annoy me more | Aug 29 19:57 |
schestowitz | LMAO | Aug 29 19:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: China building 50 nuclear power plants by 2020 using 60s era... Cable shows US works as lobbyist for GE: http://t.co/XED4UKC | Aug 29 19:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 19:58 |
DaemonFC | Firefox 7's memory usage is as bad as ever | Aug 29 19:59 |
schestowitz | They fix it | Aug 29 19:59 |
DaemonFC | I can't tell how they came to the conclusion that it uses 30-50% less | Aug 29 19:59 |
cubezzz | Firefox 7? | Aug 29 19:59 |
schestowitz | !google firefox 7 fix mmemory | Aug 29 19:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Firefox 7 Patch Tackles Memory Bloat with Impressive Results ... | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-7-Patch-Tackles-Memory-Bloat-with-Impressive-Results-210039.shtml | Aug 29 19:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Firefox 7 Beta To Slash Memory Usage « Linear Fix | http://linearfix.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/firefox-7-beta-to-slash-memory-usage/ | Aug 29 19:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - New Firefox 7 Aurora Build Promises To Fix Memory Leak Issues ... | http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/New-Firefox-7-Aurora-Build-Promises-Fix-Memory-Leak-Issues | Aug 29 19:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Fixes to memory footprint land in Firefox 7 | ExtremeTech | http://www.extremetech.com/internet/88998-fixes-to-memory-footprint-land-in-firefox-7 | Aug 29 19:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard ♻ @PoliceStateUK1 in 10 Scottish adult males are on #DNA database http://s.coop/50j6 #Scotland #DatabaseState | Aug 29 19:59 | |
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cubezzz | I'm still using 3.something | Aug 29 19:59 |
schestowitz | same here | Aug 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | on everything | Aug 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | 4 is when things started to go a little less predictable | Aug 29 20:00 |
cubezzz | are they playing around with version numbers? | Aug 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | esp. plugins | Aug 29 20:00 |
DaemonFC | that will only be supported for so long | Aug 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes | Aug 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | Playing marketing | Aug 29 20:00 |
DaemonFC | penis envy of Chrome | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | next thing they'll say Firefox has "ultimate edition" for 99.99% with guaranteed results, second sample absolutely free, full refund within 30 days | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | They're marketing like idiots | Aug 29 20:01 |
DaemonFC | they're already talking about an Enterprise Edition of Firefox | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | Linux too is doing this | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | 3.1 soon | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | rc4 today | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | Android less so | Aug 29 20:01 |
DaemonFC | since their versioning scared companies away and their initial reply was "Fuck off, we don't want you anyway" | Aug 29 20:01 |
schestowitz | 1.2, 1.5... 3.0 | Aug 29 20:02 |
DaemonFC | followed by backtracking | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | no | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | They backtracked ont he backtracking | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | Maybe you hadn't seen that | Aug 29 20:02 |
DaemonFC | their waffling changes daily | Aug 29 20:02 |
DaemonFC | so what is their current stated position? :) | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | I think they have inner conflicts about it | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | Their community manager has justq uit | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | read about it todau | Aug 29 20:02 |
schestowitz | They have many blogs all over the place | Aug 29 20:03 |
schestowitz | not subsites of mozilla.com | Aug 29 20:03 |
schestowitz | So the messages can contradict one another | Aug 29 20:03 |
DaemonFC | maybe they can hire jono, his first post will be about the addon incompatibility being a feature to weed out the week | Aug 29 20:03 |
schestowitz | brb | Aug 29 20:03 |
DaemonFC | *weak | Aug 29 20:03 |
schestowitz | OpenRespeK' | Aug 29 20:03 |
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DaemonFC | followed by moving the tab menu to the left with no way to fix it | Aug 29 20:04 |
schestowitz | Jono the BaconWrangler | Aug 29 20:04 |
DaemonFC | and insulting anyone that wants to | Aug 29 20:04 |
schestowitz | :-) Like Lizard Wrangler | Aug 29 20:04 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: SteveofLinux likes it there | Aug 29 20:04 |
schestowitz | SteveofLinux is not 40 yet | Aug 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | SteveofLinux has no cancer, either. He'll outlive the other Stsves | Aug 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | So will Linux | Aug 29 20:05 |
DaemonFC | he's also not morbidly obese and sweaty | Aug 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | Unity for Eternity. | Aug 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: Steve the SweatyB is hardly visible anymore | Aug 29 20:06 |
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schestowitz | Correct me if I'm wrong, but MSFT in general is not spoken about much anymore | Aug 29 20:06 |
schestowitz | And then he said he loves neighborlee | Aug 29 20:06 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: We were just talking about your dog. He would run Canonical better than the current team. | Aug 29 20:07 |
neighborlee | lol | Aug 29 20:07 |
neighborlee | liar! | Aug 29 20:07 |
neighborlee | ha | Aug 29 20:07 |
schestowitz | BTW | Aug 29 20:07 |
neighborlee | yes.. | Aug 29 20:07 |
schestowitz | I saw a mono article today | Aug 29 20:07 |
schestowitz | Which was strange | Aug 29 20:07 |
neighborlee | im sick of mono | Aug 29 20:07 |
schestowitz | It's like when someone mentioned atari | Aug 29 20:07 |
DaemonFC | https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219555/New_Windows_worm_spreads_by_attacking_weak_passwords | Aug 29 20:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Windows worm spreads by attacking weak passwords - Computerworld .::. Size~: 134.01 KB | Aug 29 20:07 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: goodmorning20 | Aug 29 20:08 |
neighborlee | at least its gone in fedora..and making itself known in Mageia..which is odd..BUT its GONE BABY GONE in the new mandriva!! | Aug 29 20:08 |
neighborlee | yeah for mandriva/kde | Aug 29 20:08 |
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neighborlee | and well its not in kubuntu :)) | Aug 29 20:08 |
schestowitz | yes, it's going obscure | Aug 29 20:08 |
neighborlee | yay for common sense | Aug 29 20:08 |
schestowitz | And no articles about it | Aug 29 20:08 |
neighborlee | yup | Aug 29 20:08 |
schestowitz | we won in a way | Aug 29 20:09 |
neighborlee | in a way | Aug 29 20:09 |
schestowitz | But now we need to defeat swpats | Aug 29 20:09 |
neighborlee | BUT they are trying to reenergize in other areas | Aug 29 20:09 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is not revving up the ante | Aug 29 20:09 |
DaemonFC | https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219563/Microsoft_ribbonizes_Windows_8_file_manager | Aug 29 20:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft 'ribbonizes' Windows 8 file manager - Computerworld .::. Size~: 138.01 KB | Aug 29 20:09 |
DaemonFC | Ribbons! | Aug 29 20:09 |
schestowitz | it has just launched embargo atack on motorola/google | Aug 29 20:09 |
schestowitz | I will write about this tomorrow when I learn more details | Aug 29 20:09 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Mandriva has dropped official support for anything that's not KDE | Aug 29 20:09 |
DaemonFC | in case you didn't notice | Aug 29 20:09 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: "and then he woke out, sweating profusely and shouting 'ribbons!'" | Aug 29 20:10 |
DaemonFC | GNOME, XFCE, LXDE, and other desktops and window managers are now in the Contrib section | Aug 29 20:10 |
DaemonFC | which means you can use them but there's no Mandriva support officially | Aug 29 20:10 |
schestowitz | good | Aug 29 20:10 |
schestowitz | you can use other distros for it | Aug 29 20:10 |
schestowitz | Canonical is similar | Aug 29 20:10 |
schestowitz | But it uses a bastardised gnme | Aug 29 20:10 |
schestowitz | you-nee-tit | Aug 29 20:10 |
DaemonFC | KDE is officially supported | Aug 29 20:11 |
DaemonFC | in Ubuntu | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | kubuntu | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | that's a sepatate distro | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | binary compatible | Aug 29 20:11 |
DaemonFC | yeah, Canonical has paid employees working on it | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | mandriva was not like that, I think | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | Fedora is also still a gnome distro | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | but it has spins | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | kde spin | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | and xfce spi | Aug 29 20:11 |
schestowitz | *spin | Aug 29 20:11 |
DaemonFC | the spins are just for the purpose of the LiveCD | Aug 29 20:12 |
schestowitz | on rhel you'd use gnome | Aug 29 20:12 |
DaemonFC | the packages for KDE are part of Fedora | Aug 29 20:12 |
DaemonFC | officially | Aug 29 20:12 |
schestowitz | same in squeeze | Aug 29 20:12 |
DaemonFC | they're just maintained by the SIG groups | Aug 29 20:12 |
schestowitz | fedora 16 alpha is out | Aug 29 20:12 |
schestowitz | neighborlee is already giving that a go | Aug 29 20:12 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC, yes mandriva is making a HUGE shift..for the better maybe.at least mono is NOwhere insight..kde bring it on! | Aug 29 20:12 |
schestowitz | :- | Aug 29 20:13 |
DaemonFC | is Mono in the 2011 repository? | Aug 29 20:13 |
schestowitz | neighborlee uses an old version of kde | Aug 29 20:13 |
schestowitz | it's called vista7 | Aug 29 20:13 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 20:13 |
ender_2600 | mandrive isn't going to do anything except for what it's already the best at: sucking | Aug 29 20:13 |
schestowitz | vista8 is a copy of kde 4.0 | Aug 29 20:13 |
DaemonFC | also, they've made some weird KDE changes in Mandriva | Aug 29 20:13 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, as if I have a choice atm. | Aug 29 20:13 |
schestowitz | it will have integrated progress bar | Aug 29 20:13 |
schestowitz | like kde 4 years ago | Aug 29 20:13 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, some of us need apps, that dont work well IF at all in ahem..wine ;) | Aug 29 20:13 |
schestowitz | which apps? | Aug 29 20:13 |
neighborlee | na I use kde 4.6 I think now | Aug 29 20:13 |
neighborlee | msaccess | Aug 29 20:14 |
schestowitz | maybe we can .. | Aug 29 20:14 |
ender_2600 | games | Aug 29 20:14 |
neighborlee | and tons of gmes | Aug 29 20:14 |
schestowitz | oh | Aug 29 20:14 |
neighborlee | trust me,,when I say,,most of the games I use are not working well in wine | Aug 29 20:14 |
schestowitz | dual boot then | Aug 29 20:14 |
neighborlee | I do ;) | Aug 29 20:14 |
ender_2600 | I'm not waiting 5 years for Deux Ex to work in Wine | Aug 29 20:14 |
schestowitz | cool | Aug 29 20:14 |
neighborlee | no chocie | Aug 29 20:14 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, ditto | Aug 29 20:14 |
ender_2600 | I think they finally got the last version working | Aug 29 20:14 |
schestowitz | my mate is excited about this game | Aug 29 20:14 |
schestowitz | reminds me of bioforge | Aug 29 20:14 |
DaemonFC | https://www.networkworld.com/community/node/78344 | Aug 29 20:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Microsoft Update: Microsoft bashes VMware at VMworld, again .::. Size~: 91.1 KB | Aug 29 20:15 |
schestowitz | !google game bioforge | Aug 29 20:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - BioForge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioForge | Aug 29 20:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BioForge (Origin) - The Best PC Game Of All Time - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DrEmMH0v_ryM | Aug 29 20:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Download Bioforge | Abandonia | http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/1030/Bioforge.html | Aug 29 20:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Download BioForge - Free DOS Games Downloads | http://www.classic-pc-games.com/pc/adventure/bioforge.html | Aug 29 20:15 |
ender_2600 | or the old deux ex | Aug 29 20:15 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: they're hardly rivals | Aug 29 20:15 |
schestowitz | MS people run vmware | Aug 29 20:15 |
schestowitz | and some of vmware is put in winserver | Aug 29 20:15 |
schestowitz | Our client is dumping vmware | Aug 29 20:15 |
ender_2600 | roy, im not ms people | Aug 29 20:15 |
schestowitz | one month left, many of the vms are migrated to kvm already | Aug 29 20:16 |
schestowitz | web-based panel like vsphere | Aug 29 20:16 |
ender_2600 | I'd rather use vmware over virtualbox, and kvm over everything | Aug 29 20:16 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: I didn't say you were | Aug 29 20:16 |
schestowitz | I never said you were | Aug 29 20:16 |
ender_2600 | 16:06 < schestowitz> MS people run vmware | Aug 29 20:16 |
schestowitz | I never said s*it (Michael) was anyone's staff either | Aug 29 20:16 |
schestowitz | He's just a troll | Aug 29 20:16 |
schestowitz | [20:16] <ender_2600> 16:06 < schestowitz> MS people run vmware | Aug 29 20:17 |
schestowitz | The company | Aug 29 20:17 |
ender_2600 | I actually think MS people are using hyper-v | Aug 29 20:17 |
schestowitz | See their CEO, COO and others | Aug 29 20:17 |
schestowitz | They are all former MS execs | Aug 29 20:17 |
ender_2600 | they realized virtualization is where the future is | Aug 29 20:17 |
ender_2600 | yes | Aug 29 20:17 |
schestowitz | I meant vmware the company, not the product | Aug 29 20:17 |
ender_2600 | doesn't mean they are all trojans | Aug 29 20:17 |
schestowitz | One of those companies with name identical to the flagship product | Aug 29 20:17 |
ender_2600 | you were really lucky with Elop, didnt think their shareholders would be so stupid | Aug 29 20:18 |
schestowitz | Dianne Greene and her hunsband seemed nice | Aug 29 20:18 |
schestowitz | They also contributed some stuff to FOSS before Tucci kicked them out and gave Ballmer the keys | Aug 29 20:18 |
neighborlee | I use vmware player in windows 7 for msaccess actuallly | Aug 29 20:18 |
ender_2600 | Vmware? | Aug 29 20:18 |
schestowitz | EMC is now banding with MS and Apple on patents | Aug 29 20:18 |
neighborlee | might work in linux for the same I dunno..i'd have to try it | Aug 29 20:18 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: it would | Aug 29 20:18 |
neighborlee | but gamess,,and game SDK' are another matter entirley.. | Aug 29 20:19 |
DaemonFC | VMWare is a major sponsor of Mesa aren't they? | Aug 29 20:19 |
schestowitz | it's quite solid on both platforms, but you could also try virtualbox for nonserver | Aug 29 20:19 |
schestowitz | !google virtualbox download | Aug 29 20:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Downloads - VirtualBox | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads | Aug 29 20:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - VirtualBox | http://www.virtualbox.org/ | Aug 29 20:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linux_Downloads - VirtualBox | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads | Aug 29 20:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Oracle VM VirtualBox - VirtualBox Downloads | http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html | Aug 29 20:19 |
neighborlee | hell ..steam wont even work in wine correclty...partgs ofit yes..other parts not | Aug 29 20:19 |
neighborlee | wine is always a mixed bag of pro and con ;) | Aug 29 20:19 |
neighborlee | major hastle | Aug 29 20:19 |
neighborlee | hence we dual boot ;)) | Aug 29 20:19 |
schestowitz | [20:17] <ender_2600> I actually think MS people are using hyper-v | Aug 29 20:20 |
schestowitz | Maybe sme | Aug 29 20:20 |
schestowitz | I think it's not quite good | Aug 29 20:20 |
schestowitz | Depends if they use it like a religion or because they assess merit | Aug 29 20:20 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is now trying to piggyback Linux for the hyper-V torjan to be installed | Aug 29 20:20 |
MinceR | have you ever seen m$ stuff used on the basis of merit? :> | Aug 29 20:20 |
schestowitz | This way they can control what's installed and who plays | Aug 29 20:20 |
schestowitz | They can favour SUSE to make just MS-taxed distros runnable | Aug 29 20:21 |
schestowitz | MinceR: thinking,........... | Aug 29 20:21 |
MinceR | :> | Aug 29 20:21 |
schestowitz | MinceR: mice? | Aug 29 20:21 |
schestowitz | They onlyt brand them | Aug 29 20:21 |
schestowitz | And I don't think highly of them, either | Aug 29 20:21 |
MinceR | i haven't used them much, but i didn't find them to be so great | Aug 29 20:21 |
schestowitz | and keyb0oards? | Aug 29 20:22 |
MinceR | also, their "works even on glass" mouse technology fails on fabric | Aug 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | IIRC you use one | Aug 29 20:22 |
MinceR | nope | Aug 29 20:22 |
ender_2600 | 16:12 < schestowitz> Microsoft is now trying to piggyback Linux for the hyper-V torjan to be installed | Aug 29 20:22 |
MinceR | i use a Logitech mouse and a Cherry keyboard | Aug 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | nice | Aug 29 20:22 |
ender_2600 | adding drivers to linux so that you don't have to later is a bonus | Aug 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | I have a logitech one again | Aug 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | It's iffy though | Aug 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | Still surviving somehow, the other is a Dell, I think it's rebandged somehting | Aug 29 20:22 |
ender_2600 | I wish vmware and virtualbox's drivers were good enough to go into the kernel | Aug 29 20:22 |
ender_2600 | only opensuse bundles virtualbox and vmware drivers, it seems | Aug 29 20:23 |
MinceR | i wish virtualizers and kernel developers would work this mess out | Aug 29 20:23 |
schestowitz | It just says at the bottom, Dell Dell, Made in China | Aug 29 20:23 |
MinceR | and rely on generalized virtualized i/o drivers | Aug 29 20:23 |
ender_2600 | generalized like no name food? | Aug 29 20:23 |
ender_2600 | sucky for all | Aug 29 20:23 |
schestowitz | "chewy staff" | Aug 29 20:24 |
schestowitz | I don't mind natural food being unlabelled if it's raw" | Aug 29 20:24 |
schestowitz | I mean, carrot is usually carrot | Aug 29 20:24 |
schestowitz | of x type | Aug 29 20:24 |
schestowitz | unless it's GMOd | Aug 29 20:24 |
ender_2600 | I do mind actually | Aug 29 20:24 |
ender_2600 | it should be clear its GMO or not GMO | Aug 29 20:25 |
schestowitz | they don't really have brand, it's Made by Mother Nature | Aug 29 20:25 |
neighborlee | #mageia is uncomfortable talkign about mono..seems they have mono BOOSTERS in place LOL | Aug 29 20:25 |
ender_2600 | I want cancer-free food | Aug 29 20:25 |
schestowitz | Maybe the farmer used poisons on it.. | Aug 29 20:25 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, then dont eat meat | Aug 29 20:25 |
*neighborlee doesn't.. | Aug 29 20:25 | |
ender_2600 | I don't believe in Gaia earth worship | Aug 29 20:25 |
ender_2600 | no "Mother Nature" in my mind | Aug 29 20:25 |
neighborlee | to veganism! and health<< | Aug 29 20:25 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, its the same thing as saying god,,in a way | Aug 29 20:25 |
ender_2600 | yeah | Aug 29 20:25 |
neighborlee | nature, molecules...same thing | Aug 29 20:26 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: vegetarians are more prone to hart disease | Aug 29 20:26 |
ender_2600 | its just a religion for atheist vegans | Aug 29 20:26 |
schestowitz | Anf they are said to be living shorter lives | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | schestowitz,wrong wrong | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | lol | Aug 29 20:26 |
ender_2600 | everyone needs their 'God' | Aug 29 20:26 |
schestowitz | If all external factors are annulled in large studies | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | you have no clue what your talking about | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | meat causes all forms of heart disease and cancers | Aug 29 20:26 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: show me a study | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | easy peasy | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | did you see sanji gupta study ? | Aug 29 20:26 |
schestowitz | I think my grandad died because of his vegetarian diet | Aug 29 20:26 |
neighborlee | done with facts | Aug 29 20:26 |
schestowitz | but that's anecdotal | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | I mean | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | sorry he died obviously..but really... | Aug 29 20:27 |
ender_2600 | 16:12 < schestowitz> Microsoft is now trying to piggyback Linux for the hyper-V torjan to be installed | Aug 29 20:27 |
schestowitz | There's a lack of some nutrients | Aug 29 20:27 |
ender_2600 | whoops | Aug 29 20:27 |
ender_2600 | sorry | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, no there is not | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, Only if you do it wrong. | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | like anything in life. | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | :( | Aug 29 20:27 |
schestowitz | [20:26] <neighborlee> did you see sanji gupta study ? | Aug 29 20:27 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - yes there is | Aug 29 20:27 |
schestowitz | can you provide the link? I'm interested | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | yes | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | easy | Aug 29 20:27 |
ender_2600 | you can't get all your nutrients from vegetables | Aug 29 20:27 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, is what | Aug 29 20:28 |
schestowitz | I saw a study showing the opposite and spanning many departments around the world, so it's hard to cheat | Aug 29 20:28 |
neighborlee | some veggie products have what is commonly referred to as 'supplements' yes | Aug 29 20:28 |
neighborlee | so ..its nutrient complete..ie; yeast , etc. | Aug 29 20:28 |
neighborlee | ie: non meat sources | Aug 29 20:28 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, checking | Aug 29 20:28 |
schestowitz | [20:26] <neighborlee> nature, molecules...same thing | Aug 29 20:29 |
schestowitz | Most foods are a composition of things | Aug 29 20:29 |
cubezzz | it would be interesting to know what percentage of people over 100 are vegetarian | Aug 29 20:29 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/02/%e2%80%98dr-sanjay-gupta-reports-the-last-heart-attack%e2%80%99-%e2%80%93-a-mission-possible/ < bam | Aug 29 20:29 |
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neighborlee | there is your proof | Aug 29 20:29 |
neighborlee | :) | Aug 29 20:29 |
neighborlee | one anyway | Aug 29 20:29 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: it correlates with other stuff | Aug 29 20:30 |
neighborlee | from a respected neural surgeon | Aug 29 20:30 |
schestowitz | like drinking and smoking sometimes | Aug 29 20:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Made it home. Phew. | Aug 29 20:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @gbraad Thanks so much! It seems like all the developers of these projects don't know much about one another... | Aug 29 20:30 | |
cubezzz | oldest person ever smoked a bit evidently | Aug 29 20:30 |
schestowitz | So the statistics are more complicated than this | Aug 29 20:30 |
cubezzz | 1 or 2 cigarettes per day | Aug 29 20:30 |
schestowitz | and you can't just one one single threshold of age | Aug 29 20:30 |
cubezzz | over 100 is impressive though | Aug 29 20:30 |
neighborlee | the point is..no one can call themselves a respectable individual who cares for other sentient beings..and then eats meat, when its died horribly | Aug 29 20:30 |
neighborlee | its called oxymoron | Aug 29 20:30 |
neighborlee | :) | Aug 29 20:31 |
MinceR | not all meat is from sentient beings | Aug 29 20:31 |
cubezzz | but no one would say smoking prolongs life | Aug 29 20:31 |
neighborlee | most people are just desensitized to all of it | Aug 29 20:31 |
ender_2600 | cubezzz - an in-law is ~107 and drinks a shot of gin once a day - still drives too | Aug 29 20:31 |
cubezzz | neighborlee, you have a point there | Aug 29 20:31 |
ender_2600 | 16:22 < cubezzz> but no one would say smoking prolongs life | Aug 29 20:31 |
ender_2600 | smoking what | Aug 29 20:31 |
ender_2600 | marijuana might | Aug 29 20:31 |
MinceR | "the spice extends life" | Aug 29 20:32 |
schestowitz | old spice | Aug 29 20:32 |
schestowitz | for old people? | Aug 29 20:32 |
cubezzz | that's old old spice :) | Aug 29 20:32 |
MinceR | nah | Aug 29 20:32 |
MinceR | melange | Aug 29 20:32 |
schestowitz | bah | Aug 29 20:32 |
cubezzz | it's got to be cheaper to eat vegetarian food | Aug 29 20:33 |
cubezzz | more energy efficient too | Aug 29 20:33 |
MinceR | made of vegetarians? | Aug 29 20:33 |
cubezzz | just saying I can see the logic of it | Aug 29 20:33 |
ender_2600 | cubezzz - until we're all eating veggies instead and the eco nuts tax the shit out of it | Aug 29 20:34 |
cubezzz | isn't heart failure the number one cause of death? | Aug 29 20:34 |
schestowitz | I heard that because a lot of veg is burned to sustain the meet it turns into when digested we lose like 80% of the energy when we wat meat | Aug 29 20:34 |
schestowitz | we as in humans | Aug 29 20:34 |
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ender_2600 | you lose more energy eating cooked veggies | Aug 29 20:35 |
schestowitz | And if the foot pyramid was just animals about plants, we'd have less waste of sun energy | Aug 29 20:35 |
ender_2600 | vs raw | Aug 29 20:35 |
ender_2600 | than having meat | Aug 29 20:35 |
MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1722#comic | Aug 29 20:35 |
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schestowitz | I east many vegs and fruit raw | Aug 29 20:35 |
schestowitz | *eat | Aug 29 20:35 |
schestowitz | anyone can | Aug 29 20:36 |
ender_2600 | you shouldn't cook them anyways | Aug 29 20:36 |
ender_2600 | it destroys enzymes | Aug 29 20:36 |
MinceR | anyone can, it just doesn't make them a hero. | Aug 29 20:36 |
schestowitz | we tend to overheat stuff that we eat cold | Aug 29 20:36 |
schestowitz | Waste of energy really | Aug 29 20:36 |
schestowitz | just to soften it | Aug 29 20:36 |
MinceR | schestowitz: our digestive tract has adjusted to it | Aug 29 20:36 |
MinceR | so have our teeth | Aug 29 20:36 |
MinceR | instead of expending extra energy there, we expend extra energy in preparing the food | Aug 29 20:37 |
schestowitz | our teeth are bad | Aug 29 20:37 |
schestowitz | And we still use corrective stuff on all kids in the West | Aug 29 20:37 |
schestowitz | To mark ourselved | Aug 29 20:37 |
ender_2600 | flouride also does damage to teeth | Aug 29 20:37 |
ender_2600 | dental florosis | Aug 29 20:37 |
MinceR | iirc only if you're young | Aug 29 20:38 |
MinceR | and/or at very high doses | Aug 29 20:38 |
ender_2600 | don't have to be young | Aug 29 20:38 |
ender_2600 | just has to be a high dose, which is whats being used | Aug 29 20:38 |
MinceR | strange | Aug 29 20:38 |
MinceR | all my toothpastes so far had flouride in them, yet my teeth are fine | Aug 29 20:38 |
ender_2600 | where I am there is enough flouride in a glass of water that you can find in one application of toothpaste | Aug 29 20:38 |
schestowitz | really? | Aug 29 20:39 |
ender_2600 | yet, if you swallow a drop of toothpaste you're supposed to call poison control | Aug 29 20:39 |
schestowitz | where does the water come from? | Aug 29 20:39 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz - the city does it | Aug 29 20:39 |
schestowitz | in a conspiracy to poison you? | Aug 29 20:39 |
ender_2600 | yes | Aug 29 20:40 |
ender_2600 | !google poison tap water | Aug 29 20:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Poison Tap Water Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your ... | http://www.infowars.com/poison-tap-water/ | Aug 29 20:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Poison in the kitchen...How tap water could damage your brain ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-563123/Poison-kitchen--How-tap-water-damage-brain-blind-kill-you.html | Aug 29 20:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Prison Planet.com » Poison Tap Water Makes Number 1 Google ... | http://www.prisonplanet.com/poison-tap-water-makes-number-1-google-search.html | Aug 29 20:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Poison tap water in Major USA Cities - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9v7ZOAU5fkM | Aug 29 20:40 |
schestowitz | anyway, about the amount of fluoride, got anything saying water in Canada is this full of it? | Aug 29 20:40 |
ender_2600 | Hamilton Ontario tests their water 47,000 times a year | Aug 29 20:40 |
schestowitz | I see Alex Jones sites | Aug 29 20:40 |
schestowitz | And Murdoch tabloid | Aug 29 20:40 |
ender_2600 | just to make sure theres enough IQ robbing chemicals | Aug 29 20:40 |
schestowitz | Let's see if they link toa stuidy | Aug 29 20:41 |
ender_2600 | http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/health/flouride090105.html | Aug 29 20:41 |
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ender_2600 | there was an EPA study | Aug 29 20:41 |
ender_2600 | http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/fluoridesummary.htm | Aug 29 20:42 |
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schestowitz | the murdoch tabloid does not mention fluride | Aug 29 20:42 |
schestowitz | *fluoride | Aug 29 20:42 |
schestowitz | not even once | Aug 29 20:42 |
ender_2600 | no it seems to be something else | Aug 29 20:42 |
ender_2600 | probably radon | Aug 29 20:42 |
ender_2600 | the infowars has more accurate info | Aug 29 20:43 |
schestowitz | does the EPA study support your dosage claims? | Aug 29 20:43 |
schestowitz | radon is nasty | Aug 29 20:43 |
ender_2600 | my dosage claims? | Aug 29 20:43 |
schestowitz | anyway, water is polluted and getting worse, there's chlorine in it too now.. added to kill off other junk | Aug 29 20:44 |
schestowitz | Poison against poison | Aug 29 20:44 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: yes, about amount per glass of water in .ca | Aug 29 20:44 |
schestowitz | it sounded /well/ exaggerated | Aug 29 20:45 |
ender_2600 | ill have to look it up again | Aug 29 20:45 |
schestowitz | thanks | Aug 29 20:45 |
ender_2600 | http://www.toronto.ca/health/dental/pdf/fluoride.pdf | Aug 29 20:45 |
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ender_2600 | heres one of toronto 0.6ppm | Aug 29 20:45 |
ender_2600 | http://www.slweb.org/50reasons.html | Aug 29 20:46 |
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ender_2600 | Dr. Paul Connett | Aug 29 20:46 |
ender_2600 | Professor of Chemistry | Aug 29 20:46 |
schestowitz | yes, but the amounts is what I'm after | Aug 29 20:47 |
schestowitz | It's known we can get water poisoning | Aug 29 20:47 |
schestowitz | diluting the salts in our liquid flow | Aug 29 20:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks 'insurance' files have not been decrypted. All press are currently misreporting. | Aug 29 20:48 | |
schestowitz | but not sure about pertinent chemical | Aug 29 20:48 |
schestowitz | In Turkey we couldn't drink tap water | Aug 29 20:48 |
ender_2600 | how much flouride is in an application of toothpaste | Aug 29 20:48 |
schestowitz | In some nations the situation is already pretty grim | Aug 29 20:48 |
schestowitz | Water imports | Aug 29 20:48 |
schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/08/29/dos/ | Aug 29 20:50 |
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ender_2600 | 125 ppm in flour | Aug 29 20:50 |
ender_2600 | http://www.fluoridealert.org/pesticides/sf.nov.2006.submission.pdf | Aug 29 20:51 |
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ender_2600 | not to mention the good old fact it was Hitler's idea | Aug 29 20:52 |
ender_2600 | http://youtu.be/LW3JM2O3nQY | Aug 29 20:52 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 113 dents! | Aug 29 20:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm afraid !Google's Eric Schmit said enough in Edinburgh to put me off Google+ - I won't leave, but I feel a lot less positive about it now | Aug 29 20:53 | |
ender_2600 | Dr Paul Connett | Aug 29 20:53 |
ender_2600 | on Infowars, but so was RMS | Aug 29 20:53 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, marijuana is known to cause many helath issues.and IT IS addictive..dont EVEN get more started wtih that crap | Aug 29 20:53 |
ender_2600 | The US is reducing its flouride from 1.1 to 0.7 ppm | Aug 29 20:53 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - bullshit | Aug 29 20:54 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 20:54 |
neighborlee | pothead! | Aug 29 20:54 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - only the government would agree with you | Aug 29 20:54 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 20:54 |
neighborlee | YEAH right | Aug 29 20:54 |
ender_2600 | I'm not a pothead | Aug 29 20:54 |
neighborlee | tell that to most of my friends..who can NOT get by without SMOKING THE SHIT | Aug 29 20:54 |
neighborlee | talk to my hand | Aug 29 20:54 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | real life is proof. | Aug 29 20:55 |
MinceR | ban ethanol and tobacco | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | I would if I could | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | everone wants it ;) | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | meh | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | soon we have alternatives | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | best we can do atm | Aug 29 20:55 |
neighborlee | people are HOOKED on addictive things..is that hard to comprehend ? | Aug 29 20:56 |
neighborlee | duh | Aug 29 20:56 |
ender_2600 | I know people who sell marijuana for income and live off of welfare | Aug 29 20:56 |
ender_2600 | Im always bitching about their drug funded free ride | Aug 29 20:56 |
neighborlee | im sure | Aug 29 20:56 |
schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/08/29/m-v-world-in-the-cloud/ | Aug 29 20:56 |
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ender_2600 | but the drug itself isnt that bad | Aug 29 20:56 |
ender_2600 | tobacco is worse | Aug 29 20:56 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz - http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/varner-1998.pdf | Aug 29 20:58 |
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schestowitz | ender_2600: alcohol oo | Aug 29 20:58 |
schestowitz | *too | Aug 29 20:58 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: I know it's bad, but... | Aug 29 20:58 |
schestowitz | 1) show me the dosage you named | Aug 29 20:58 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz - http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/idd.html | Aug 29 20:58 |
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ender_2600 | schestowitz - the 0.6 ppm for toronto? i did | Aug 29 20:58 |
schestowitz | 2) show proof it's designed like this in _order_ to harm people | Aug 29 20:58 |
ender_2600 | I have to prove rich people want us dead? | Aug 29 20:59 |
schestowitz | is that the same as a drop of toothpaste (like a class of water in toronto)? | Aug 29 20:59 |
schestowitz | Cause if so, that's a high density, I'd agree | Aug 29 20:59 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: yes | Aug 29 20:59 |
ender_2600 | I don't know whats in more-than-a-drop of toothpaste | Aug 29 20:59 |
schestowitz | you said something like that\ | Aug 29 21:00 |
ender_2600 | I saw a video a year ago by someone who was from hamilton and it covered a bunch of stuff - i can't find the video | Aug 29 21:00 |
schestowitz | [20:39] <ender_2600> yet, if you swallow a drop of toothpaste you're supposed to call poison control | Aug 29 21:00 |
schestowitz | [20:38] <ender_2600> where I am there is enough flouride in a glass of water that you can find in one application of toothpaste | Aug 29 21:00 |
schestowitz | that's what I wondered about | Aug 29 21:01 |
ender_2600 | im trying to find out | Aug 29 21:01 |
schestowitz | maybe you can run a new wikileaks search on "fluoride" | Aug 29 21:01 |
schestowitz | And show me if you see the conspiracy you speak of | Aug 29 21:01 |
ender_2600 | thats a logical fallacy in itself | Aug 29 21:02 |
ender_2600 | you won't find it in wikileaks because they'll censor stuff like that | Aug 29 21:02 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108262704824844288 | Aug 29 21:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz i'm really in need of a low power usage server, i can't run pentium 4s all day! | Aug 29 21:02 |
schestowitz | second-hand servers are cheap | Aug 29 21:02 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: who censors it? | Aug 29 21:03 |
schestowitz | wikileaks? | Aug 29 21:03 |
ender_2600 | yes | Aug 29 21:03 |
ender_2600 | they did for israel | Aug 29 21:03 |
ender_2600 | that means they have a price | Aug 29 21:03 |
*MinceR signs neighborlee up for an oxygen rehabilitation course | Aug 29 21:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: @psquid ohhhhoh my brain is melting with awesome | Aug 29 21:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Google is being MITM by Iran using fake cert http://pastebin.com/ff7Yg663 more info http://pastebin.com/SwCZqskV | Aug 29 21:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GoldmanSachs targeted as 'Jaws' joins battle over banking crash http://ur1.ca/4zhcp let's see some arrests/confiscations.These are looters. | Aug 29 21:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks grand jury prosecutor required to take an unexpected business-related trip out of the country http://t.co/zi2xuod | Aug 29 21:06 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goldman Sachs targeted as 'Jaws' joins battle over banking crash | Business | The Observer .::. Size~: 105.91 KB | Aug 29 21:06 |
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ender_2600 | wikileaks is there for people like you | Aug 29 21:06 |
ender_2600 | when you don't find conspiracies in the leaks, you say 'there must not be a conspiracy cause wikileaks can't lie' | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/81991636 | Aug 29 21:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Aaron Seigo (aseigo)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 18:15:07 UTC - Identi.ca: watching a peaceful summer sunset over the swiss countryside... gorgeous... making some food :) | Aug 29 21:07 |
ender_2600 | even though they lied about Bradley Manning getting a cent of the donations they took in his name | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: no | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | I use WL a lot | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | see some recent TR posts | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | i urged you to fidn this | Aug 29 21:07 |
ender_2600 | exactly | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | If evidence exists | Aug 29 21:07 |
ender_2600 | dude, I just told you | Aug 29 21:07 |
ender_2600 | thats the plan | Aug 29 21:07 |
schestowitz | Like the ones I pssted today about big pharma lobbying using officials paid by taxpayers | Aug 29 21:07 |
ender_2600 | "IF the evidence exists IT MUST be in wikileaks" | Aug 29 21:07 |
ender_2600 | 'Elseif null' | Aug 29 21:08 |
schestowitz | It's important that we show this as it turns theory into substantiated truth | Aug 29 21:08 |
schestowitz | And we prevent people from being ridiculed for making those claims | Aug 29 21:08 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: no, | Aug 29 21:08 |
ender_2600 | wikileaks is authorized to publish that stuff | Aug 29 21:08 |
schestowitz | else, notenough | Aug 29 21:08 |
schestowitz | This is just US stack of cables | Aug 29 21:08 |
ender_2600 | yeah, and authorized to be leaked ones | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | The repository is not all cables from all the world | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | Just the world's superpower | Aug 29 21:09 |
ender_2600 | they didn't leak 100% of the cables that the US has | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | I think they'll release all ofm them | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | They have already done MOST | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | Very fast | Aug 29 21:09 |
ender_2600 | how do you know thats true at all | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | The media says they had it decrypted | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | Wikileaks strongly denies | Aug 29 21:09 |
schestowitz | And a Norawy-based newspaper, Something Posten, got al the cables anyway, IIRC | Aug 29 21:10 |
ender_2600 | for one, why would I use something insecure for people killing plans? | Aug 29 21:10 |
ender_2600 | anonymous uses i2p for their communications, you don't think that the elite wouldn't think of that too? or something better? | Aug 29 21:10 |
schestowitz | i don't affliiated with amnonymous of lulsec | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | They're doing cracy stuff | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | *razy | Aug 29 21:11 |
ender_2600 | they're doing something | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | Like peple I sometimes see who think of agressive action against govt. | Aug 29 21:11 |
ender_2600 | better than whining | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | It's totally misguised | Aug 29 21:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Many names are on the various WL-US grand jury docs. JA, Rop, even BJ. But never DDB. Why? | Aug 29 21:11 | |
ender_2600 | government needs to go away | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | And they only hurt people whom they don't acually view as the target | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: heh | Aug 29 21:11 |
schestowitz | That's where you and I disagree | Aug 29 21:11 |
ender_2600 | because im not a sociopath | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | not all governance is sociopathic | Aug 29 21:12 |
ender_2600 | I don't feel I have a need to control people | Aug 29 21:12 |
ender_2600 | yes it is | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | government is, by defnition, there to srve the people | Aug 29 21:12 |
ender_2600 | controlling others is sociopathic | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | Then it gets perturbed | Aug 29 21:12 |
ender_2600 | nope | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | And the rich people take over it | Aug 29 21:12 |
ender_2600 | government is control of the mind | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | The corporations | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | Then it's a rogue govt. | Aug 29 21:12 |
ender_2600 | there never has been a government loyal to the people in all of history | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | And it needs to be replaced | Aug 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | But a two-party system gives the illusion of control | Aug 29 21:13 |
ender_2600 | name one | Aug 29 21:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Copyright Nightmare of "I Have a Dream" speech by Alex_Pasternack http://ping.fm/TfrBC | Aug 29 21:13 | |
schestowitz | Voting in always the same rich people | Aug 29 21:13 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Copyright Nightmare of "I Have a Dream" | Motherboard .::. Size~: 55 KB | Aug 29 21:13 |
ender_2600 | name a government that worked for the people | Aug 29 21:13 |
ender_2600 | name ONE | Aug 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | Then you know voting can't rubbish the corrupt government | Aug 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | And then some people choose to replace it by force, like in Egypt | Aug 29 21:13 |
ender_2600 | voting isn't perfect either | Aug 29 21:13 |
ender_2600 | you brainwash the masses into voting compliance via the media | Aug 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | depends which people | Aug 29 21:13 |
ender_2600 | its not hard | Aug 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | I heard the govt. in Boivia turned around | Aug 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | voting is not perfect when it's gamed | Aug 29 21:14 |
ender_2600 | they still have money, debt, laws and tax | Aug 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | As it is in the West | Aug 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | Campaign funding corrupt the race, not just media | Aug 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | IIRC, MinceR too is against govt. | Aug 29 21:14 |
ender_2600 | they run the media | Aug 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | not ALL media | Aug 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | Depose the fake media | Aug 29 21:15 |
ender_2600 | yes I'd say ALL media | Aug 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | That's another goal | Aug 29 21:15 |
ender_2600 | the smaller outlets copy the giants | Aug 29 21:15 |
MinceR | schestowitz: you remember correctly | Aug 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108268599877189632 | Aug 29 21:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz i'd really like ultra low power, but more powerful an cheaper than the average NAS | Aug 29 21:16 |
schestowitz | That depends on cost of electricity | Aug 29 21:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks 'insurance' files have not been decrypted. All press are currently misreporting. There is an issue, but not that issue. | Aug 29 21:16 | |
ender_2600 | I'd like to be able to do whatever I want without the government or someone else getting in my face about it | Aug 29 21:16 |
neighborlee | MinceR, make fun/mock all you wish..point is,,everyone Iknow who smokes it...are addicated to needing it every single day..I"d call that a fairly large risk factor and not cheap to begin with ( unless you could grow it..),,having said all that; | Aug 29 21:16 |
neighborlee | http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html | Aug 29 21:16 |
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neighborlee | feel free to refute that..this isn't hitlers germany ;) | Aug 29 21:17 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - nih is the government | Aug 29 21:17 |
neighborlee | I know who they are | Aug 29 21:17 |
ender_2600 | why would you believe them | Aug 29 21:17 |
ender_2600 | they lie | Aug 29 21:17 |
neighborlee | does not automagically make their statements , incorrect does it ? | Aug 29 21:17 |
ender_2600 | yes, it does | Aug 29 21:17 |
MinceR | neighborlee: yet a large part of human population is ok with addictive drugs, so long as they're not the drugs of the "brown people" | Aug 29 21:17 |
neighborlee | BS | Aug 29 21:17 |
neighborlee | brown people ?ROFL | Aug 29 21:17 |
neighborlee | pa-lease | Aug 29 21:17 |
MinceR | i think people should decide for themselves, after they inform themselves | Aug 29 21:17 |
ender_2600 | everything the US government says about drugs was paid for by alcohol and tobacco | Aug 29 21:17 |
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ender_2600 | marijuana competes too much with alcohol and tobacco and doesn't cause all the problems they do | Aug 29 21:18 |
ender_2600 | its a safer alternative and you can grow it yourself, so it cant be taxed | Aug 29 21:18 |
neighborlee | you cant drive whlie under MJ..nor alcohol..not without significant risk.. | Aug 29 21:18 |
ender_2600 | thats why its banned | Aug 29 21:18 |
ender_2600 | wrong again | Aug 29 21:18 |
neighborlee | I know from experience | Aug 29 21:18 |
neighborlee | more than a few years ago | Aug 29 21:18 |
ender_2600 | studies have shown time and time again that people who smoke MJ drive slower and more cautiously | Aug 29 21:18 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 21:19 |
ender_2600 | in fact, the people who got into accidents did both alcohol and MJ | Aug 29 21:19 |
neighborlee | yes I know about that | Aug 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | Marijuana is bad you you,,, mmmkay? | Aug 29 21:19 |
ender_2600 | well stop lying | Aug 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | But so are most drugs, foods too | Aug 29 21:19 |
ender_2600 | what are you a christian? | Aug 29 21:19 |
neighborlee | Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to the brain and other organs throughout the body. | Aug 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | The thing is all relative | Aug 29 21:19 |
MinceR | ender_2600: he's the christian lunatic fringe | Aug 29 21:19 |
ender_2600 | oh noes! | Aug 29 21:19 |
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MinceR | among other things | Aug 29 21:19 |
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ender_2600 | the chemical travels | Aug 29 21:19 |
MinceR | also m$ fanboy | Aug 29 21:19 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 21:20 |
ender_2600 | hes a bundle of fun all rolled up into one | Aug 29 21:20 |
MinceR | for whoever finds that fun, yes | Aug 29 21:20 |
neighborlee | Not surprisingly, marijuana intoxication can cause distorted perceptions, impaired coordination, difficulty with thinking and problem solving, and problems with learning and memory. | Aug 29 21:20 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - at what dose | Aug 29 21:20 |
schestowitz | so can alcohol | Aug 29 21:21 |
ender_2600 | what is the weight of the people using it | Aug 29 21:21 |
*MinceR wonders what neighborlee thinks about drinking the alcoholic blood of his god | Aug 29 21:21 | |
ender_2600 | weight and dose play heavily | Aug 29 21:21 |
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neighborlee | all m yfriends that use MJ..smoke at least a few pipe hits..at the very least..NOT small hits either..BIG inhales | Aug 29 21:21 |
schestowitz | MinceR: religions like booze | Aug 29 21:21 |
ender_2600 | there is no lethal dose of marijuana, there is of alcohol and tobacco | Aug 29 21:21 |
schestowitz | Even in the bible | Aug 29 21:21 |
neighborlee | so lets not even go there shall we | Aug 29 21:21 |
schestowitz | they are in favour of intoxication | Aug 29 21:21 |
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DaemonFC | here, eat some blood and flesh | Aug 29 21:22 |
MinceR | schestowitz: some religions use different drugs | Aug 29 21:22 |
DaemonFC | stay around, we'll bring out the altar boys soon | Aug 29 21:22 |
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schestowitz | depending on geography and law | Aug 29 21:22 |
ender_2600 | Noah got raped after drinking heavily | Aug 29 21:22 |
ender_2600 | in the bible | Aug 29 21:22 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 21:22 |
schestowitz | Noah buiilt a boat for dinosaur | Aug 29 21:22 |
DaemonFC | surprise buttsex | Aug 29 21:22 |
schestowitz | Which then raped him | Aug 29 21:22 |
ender_2600 | thats so immature roy | Aug 29 21:23 |
schestowitz | Barney couldn't lay eggs with Noah's DNA, thankfully | Aug 29 21:23 |
neighborlee | A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia | Aug 29 21:23 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - poorly done and refuted | Aug 29 21:23 |
schestowitz | any similar studies for alcohol? | Aug 29 21:24 |
neighborlee | I now that one IS fact..my friends,,all of them that smoke are..are anxiety ridden | Aug 29 21:24 |
ender_2600 | why dont you cite some of these | Aug 29 21:24 |
schestowitz | just swap marijuana with alcohol | Aug 29 21:24 |
schestowitz | And add severe health damage to the symptoms/impact | Aug 29 21:24 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - do you know if they had anxiety issues before smoking | Aug 29 21:24 |
DaemonFC | Irony is an altar boy named Neil | Aug 29 21:24 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Aug 29 21:24 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: maybe they are anxiety ridden, THUS they take drugs | Aug 29 21:24 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, def. didn't | Aug 29 21:24 |
ender_2600 | perhaps they are self medicating for depression | Aug 29 21:25 |
ender_2600 | lots of people have "depression" | Aug 29 21:25 |
ender_2600 | 1 in 5 or so | Aug 29 21:25 |
ender_2600 | thats what the dumb commercials say | Aug 29 21:25 |
schestowitz | the commericals ar part of the problem | Aug 29 21:25 |
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schestowitz | They create expectations people cannot meet | Aug 29 21:25 |
ender_2600 | 50% of canadians (in a study) have tried marijuana at least once | Aug 29 21:25 |
ender_2600 | did 50% of canadians become schitzophrenic | Aug 29 21:26 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, quite | Aug 29 21:26 |
schestowitz | And they offer 'medicatipn' in the form of consumeriam to make up for insecurities | Aug 29 21:26 |
neighborlee | 1 in 5 LOL | Aug 29 21:26 |
neighborlee | most peopel deal with life as it comes..thats called shit hapens | Aug 29 21:26 |
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schestowitz | how is that measured? | Aug 29 21:26 |
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schestowitz | "Are you sepressed? | Aug 29 21:26 |
neighborlee | we come prepared to handle life..most of us | Aug 29 21:26 |
schestowitz | "Are you NOT depressed? | Aug 29 21:26 |
schestowitz | "Are you usually feeling depressed? | Aug 29 21:26 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - the only real downsides is that marijuana effects short term memory while you're under the influence | Aug 29 21:26 |
schestowitz | They can push-oll easily | Aug 29 21:26 |
schestowitz | push-poll | Aug 29 21:26 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, yes | Aug 29 21:27 |
ender_2600 | everything else was made up to support the republican/christian war on drugs | Aug 29 21:27 |
MinceR | "help, i'm being repressed!" | Aug 29 21:27 |
ender_2600 | they even used to say it caused suicide | Aug 29 21:27 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: "handle" life makes it sounds like a chore | Aug 29 21:27 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, im not a republican. | Aug 29 21:27 |
schestowitz | Like we're assigned to a task | Aug 29 21:27 |
neighborlee | not even close | Aug 29 21:27 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, just a reality ;) | Aug 29 21:27 |
schestowitz | Our only task is to spread the DNA to a new body | Aug 29 21:27 |
neighborlee | most of us handle life as it comes.without drugs | Aug 29 21:28 |
MinceR | unless you find a new task using your intellect, sure :> | Aug 29 21:28 |
MinceR | someone said "life is for those who can't handle drugs" | Aug 29 21:28 |
schestowitz | hehe | Aug 29 21:28 |
schestowitz | MinceR: that's the domesticated human anyway | Aug 29 21:28 |
MinceR | i hope that's not the domesticated human, but the intelligent human | Aug 29 21:29 |
schestowitz | no such thing | Aug 29 21:29 |
MinceR | (sure, a tiny subset of the subspecies...) | Aug 29 21:29 |
schestowitz | humans are the missing link between animals and civilised men | Aug 29 21:29 |
schestowitz | [or women] | Aug 29 21:29 |
MinceR | but what about civilized women? | Aug 29 21:29 |
MinceR | oh. | Aug 29 21:29 |
schestowitz | remember what women are according to the bible | Aug 29 21:30 |
neighborlee | lol | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | I was using a idomatic phrase | Aug 29 21:30 |
neighborlee | hey , thats not fair entirely ;) | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | the bible says women are dirty ribs | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | and we're justb dirt | Aug 29 21:30 |
neighborlee | only according to certain passages | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | which one would you raher be? | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | I feel lucky to be dirt | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | But I hope to be a rib one day | Aug 29 21:30 |
schestowitz | /sarcasm | Aug 29 21:31 |
schestowitz | the bible is so poetic | Aug 29 21:31 |
schestowitz | And accurate, I think.. | Aug 29 21:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] There has been no 'leak at WikiLeaks'. The issue relates to a mainstream media partner and a malicious individual. | Aug 29 21:31 | |
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MinceR | the bible also treats women like commodity/cattle | Aug 29 21:31 |
neighborlee | lets not forget its myriad mistranslations | Aug 29 21:31 |
neighborlee | but sure--- | Aug 29 21:31 |
schestowitz | And ask peple about how the Quran has all th phsics in it | Aug 29 21:31 |
schestowitz | Cause some French man made a forune selling this scam | Aug 29 21:31 |
MinceR | their idea of "hospitality" is "sure, rape my underage daughter" | Aug 29 21:31 |
ender_2600 | also that most of the bible is really allegory | Aug 29 21:31 |
MinceR | sure | Aug 29 21:32 |
schestowitz | neighborlee: so what does the word trasklated to rib mean in aramic? | Aug 29 21:32 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, and you verified this how ;) | Aug 29 21:32 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, oh great sage!! | Aug 29 21:32 |
schestowitz | Aramaic | Aug 29 21:32 |
MinceR | it's all metaphor and allegory except for the parts the cultists cherry-pick as their current idea of the "morality" that stays forever | Aug 29 21:32 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - easy, look at the religions that they stole | Aug 29 21:32 |
*neighborlee laughs | Aug 29 21:32 | |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - ever heard of zoroastrian freemasonry | Aug 29 21:32 |
neighborlee | the world does not EXIST in a bubble | Aug 29 21:32 |
MinceR | s/forever/"forever"/ | Aug 29 21:32 |
neighborlee | DUH | Aug 29 21:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: Orientation - small game for the N9 / N950 - rotate the device before time runs out: http://t.co/lCDTKZr | Aug 29 21:33 | |
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MinceR | strange, in most languages the word "rib" does have a meaning by itself | Aug 29 21:33 |
schestowitz | pork chops.. | Aug 29 21:33 |
ender_2600 | genesis is an allegory for genetic engineering | Aug 29 21:33 |
schestowitz | Adam had some pork chops | Aug 29 21:33 |
neighborlee | yeah , to that add veganism | Aug 29 21:33 |
ender_2600 | the gene's of isis | Aug 29 21:33 |
schestowitz | He built a companion with them? | Aug 29 21:33 |
MinceR | ender_2600: is the bible an allegory for "throw away millenia-old badly written fiction and superstitions and live like a civilized person and think for yourself"? | Aug 29 21:34 |
ender_2600 | removing adam's rib would be the same thing as removing a hair sample | Aug 29 21:34 |
schestowitz | BTW, if the talking snake had feet, was it still a snake? | Aug 29 21:34 |
ender_2600 | to make a female clone based on his dna | Aug 29 21:34 |
MinceR | schestowitz: are you saying that the snake... evolved? | Aug 29 21:34 |
schestowitz | NO!!! | Aug 29 21:34 |
schestowitz | It's a THEORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | Aug 29 21:35 |
ender_2600 | the snake was actually allegory for one of the other creations by the genetic engineers | Aug 29 21:35 |
neighborlee | MinceR, spoken like a true skeptic LOL | Aug 29 21:35 |
neighborlee | what I dont know.I DONT BELIEVE BITCH | Aug 29 21:35 |
MinceR | ender_2600: in other words, a Goa'uld? | Aug 29 21:35 |
schestowitz | Jeff Gouald? | Aug 29 21:35 |
ender_2600 | not literally | Aug 29 21:35 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 29 21:35 |
schestowitz | BTW | Aug 29 21:35 |
schestowitz | he's c collegaue of MS florian now | Aug 29 21:35 |
ender_2600 | they arent snakes | Aug 29 21:35 |
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schestowitz | I knew people who were like snakes :-) | Aug 29 21:36 |
schestowitz | And people said, "this guy is a snake" :-) | Aug 29 21:36 |
schestowitz | They had feet | Aug 29 21:36 |
MinceR | http://www.evilbible.com/ | Aug 29 21:36 |
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MinceR | behold, the basis of all morality | Aug 29 21:36 |
schestowitz | you misspelled mortality | Aug 29 21:37 |
MinceR | according to some cultists, at least | Aug 29 21:37 |
neighborlee | Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. | Aug 29 21:37 |
schestowitz | yes, it's smoke | Aug 29 21:37 |
MinceR | :> | Aug 29 21:37 |
schestowitz | smoke grass | Aug 29 21:37 |
schestowitz | Same effect | Aug 29 21:37 |
schestowitz | Smoke carrots.. | Aug 29 21:37 |
neighborlee | Marijuana increases heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug | Aug 29 21:38 |
schestowitz | heck, smoke your own skin on fire...carcinogens | Aug 29 21:38 |
neighborlee | lovely visual ;) | Aug 29 21:38 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - we don't give a shit about US government disinfo | Aug 29 21:38 |
schestowitz | if you insist | Aug 29 21:38 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, prove it | Aug 29 21:38 |
MinceR | neighborlee: yes, all drugs are harmful | Aug 29 21:38 |
schestowitz | aspirin too | Aug 29 21:39 |
ender_2600 | I don't want to spam the channel with links to other studies from other countries that don't say what you are | Aug 29 21:39 |
MinceR | why not treat people like adults and let them decide for themselves? | Aug 29 21:39 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, wimp | Aug 29 21:39 |
ender_2600 | look up a source that isn't the united states government | Aug 29 21:39 |
schestowitz | lamp | Aug 29 21:39 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, can't take the heat , get OUT of kitchen | Aug 29 21:39 |
ender_2600 | look up the aussie studies | Aug 29 21:39 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 21:39 |
schestowitz | windows/iis/mysql/php | Aug 29 21:39 |
schestowitz | !google david nutt | Aug 29 21:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - David Nutt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nutt | Aug 29 21:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - David Nutt: Governments should get real on drugs - opinion - 04 ... | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18099-david-nutt-governments-should-get-real-on-drugs.html | Aug 29 21:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Government drug adviser David Nutt sacked | Politics | guardian.co.uk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/30/drugs-adviser-david-nutt-sacked | Aug 29 21:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - David Nutt: Alcohol More Dangerous Than Crack - HealthPop - CBS ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20021311-10391704.html | Aug 29 21:40 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - your government still says marijuana has no medical purpose | Aug 29 21:40 |
ender_2600 | Canada has medicinal marijuana and has used studies to enact that policy | Aug 29 21:41 |
neighborlee | http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/marijuana.html | Aug 29 21:41 |
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schestowitz | it's the same one | Aug 29 21:41 |
ender_2600 | harvard | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | why call it medical marijuana ? | Aug 29 21:41 |
ender_2600 | suspect too | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | It's like "legit pr0n" | Aug 29 21:41 |
ender_2600 | show some non-us studies neighborlee | Aug 29 21:41 |
ender_2600 | I dare you | Aug 29 21:41 |
schestowitz | or "gentlemen's boxing match" | Aug 29 21:42 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 21:42 |
neighborlee | sorry harvard isn't good enough ;) | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | all drugs are harmful | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | But.. | Aug 29 21:42 |
ender_2600 | why is nature against the law? | Aug 29 21:42 |
neighborlee | much of EU doesnt' even allow it entirely..so lets not go there | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | you can probably find stuidies from harvard medical school about alcohol | Aug 29 21:42 |
schestowitz | And these too will have mortality rates and the like | Aug 29 21:43 |
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neighborlee | switzerland forone as I recall,has a 4 step process of kicking drugs ? | Aug 29 21:43 |
ender_2600 | LOLz http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/fitness/exercise/fitness-trends/ganja-yoga-combines-marijuana-and-meditation/article1700170/ | Aug 29 21:43 |
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ender_2600 | http://www.joint-rolling-guide.com/marijuana-myths-and-facts.html | Aug 29 21:45 |
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ender_2600 | gotta love that URL | Aug 29 21:45 |
ender_2600 | hahaha | Aug 29 21:45 |
schestowitz | lol | Aug 29 21:45 |
*schestowitz still loling | Aug 29 21:45 | |
ender_2600 | As early as 1972 The National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been heavily overstated. | Aug 29 21:46 |
ender_2600 | In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research, editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to the health." | Aug 29 21:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fallout New Vegas on very hard setting is not easy. | Aug 29 21:46 | |
ender_2600 | "Don.t be intimidated by those websites who claim that you will end up like a retard or a house plant if you smoke some marijuana. The effects and side effects of marijuana aren.t that hyped up like all these websites are claiming. Try and judge it yourself!" | Aug 29 21:47 |
ender_2600 | Neighborlee - did it turn you into a retarded house plant? | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | well, it's harmful | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | But not as much as some other stuff that's legal | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | it does have adverse effec6ts | Aug 29 21:48 |
ender_2600 | yeah for sure | Aug 29 21:48 |
ender_2600 | the site does list them | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | And these are being exaggerated by the powers/status qu | Aug 29 21:48 |
schestowitz | *quo | Aug 29 21:48 |
ender_2600 | those are the more accurate ones I actually see in my friends | Aug 29 21:48 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, ? LOL | Aug 29 21:48 |
MinceR | 224820 < schestowitz> why call it medical marijuana ? | Aug 29 21:48 |
MinceR | perhaps for the same reason they use morphine | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108272466501177344 | Aug 29 21:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz well something that doesn't use much more than 30W of power would be nice | Aug 29 21:49 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, Idont smoke MJ if thats what your asking..haven't for tons of years | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | MinceR: LOL yeah.. | Aug 29 21:49 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - so it did all those things you claim, to you? | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | butdrug dealers can't call it that | Aug 29 21:49 |
schestowitz | it would pollute the name | Aug 29 21:49 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, i'd never do it again either...I never liked the 'low's near end of it all..very disturbing | Aug 29 21:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @edwyplenel: Affaire Takieddine: nos documents sont en accès libre sur notre site FrenchLeaks. Mediapart, partenaire de WikiLeaks. ht ... | Aug 29 21:49 | |
ender_2600 | lows? | Aug 29 21:49 |
ender_2600 | weren't you smoking crack then? | Aug 29 21:50 |
ender_2600 | it was probably laced with crack | Aug 29 21:50 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 21:50 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/slashdot/status/108277565067767808 | Aug 29 21:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @slashdot: Gut Bacteria Exert Mind Control http://t.co/y0UDHWm | Aug 29 21:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 21:50 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, ok..crack..your a REAL case study in how not to act | Aug 29 21:50 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, are you like 10years old or something ? | Aug 29 21:51 |
ender_2600 | thank you | Aug 29 21:51 |
neighborlee | yw | Aug 29 21:51 |
ender_2600 | no i'm not 10 years old | Aug 29 21:51 |
neighborlee | yes, you are | Aug 29 21:51 |
ender_2600 | do I have to be to suggest that you were smoking more than just MJ? | Aug 29 21:51 |
ender_2600 | MJ doesn't do that | Aug 29 21:51 |
neighborlee | weren't you smoking crack then? | Aug 29 21:51 |
ender_2600 | if it was a long time ago, perhaps during the 60s,70s or 80s it might have been common | Aug 29 21:52 |
neighborlee | it did this every single time fo rme | Aug 29 21:52 |
ender_2600 | you were probably mixing it up with acid | Aug 29 21:52 |
neighborlee | oh..so now its acid ;) | Aug 29 21:52 |
ender_2600 | its gotta be more than just MJ | Aug 29 21:52 |
MinceR | "Somewhere, there are two kids in a garage building a company whose motto will be "Don't be Google"." | Aug 29 21:53 |
neighborlee | you are positive proof of someone PUSHING drugs/MJ , and acting like a total fool | Aug 29 21:53 |
neighborlee | yeah team!! | Aug 29 21:53 |
schestowitz | MinceR: LOL | Aug 29 21:53 |
ender_2600 | I'm not the one pushing US government propaganda and thinking it's fact. | Aug 29 21:53 |
neighborlee | OH sonow its just the gov! | Aug 29 21:54 |
neighborlee | forget about the harvard url I showed you | Aug 29 21:54 |
neighborlee | your a joke. | Aug 29 21:54 |
ender_2600 | harvard receives money from the government to do those studies | Aug 29 21:54 |
ender_2600 | durrrrr | Aug 29 21:54 |
schestowitz | you're? | Aug 29 21:54 |
neighborlee | LOL | Aug 29 21:54 |
ender_2600 | derp derp derp | Aug 29 21:54 |
neighborlee | prove it | Aug 29 21:54 |
MinceR | his A-joke | Aug 29 21:54 |
neighborlee | he's | Aug 29 21:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A Guardian journalist (David Leigh), and his underling's tawdry vendetta against WikiLeaks http://t.co/jgUaC6N | Aug 29 21:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Time Zone Appropriate Greetings !Identiverse | Aug 29 21:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Somewhere, there are two kids in a garage building a company whose motto will be "Don't be Google"." (unattributed) | Aug 29 21:54 | |
neighborlee | durrrrrrrrrrrr | Aug 29 21:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 21:54 |
schestowitz | his a Engrish | Aug 29 21:54 |
MinceR | schestowitz: source >> http://botgirl.blogspot.com/2011/08/executive-chairman-eric-schidt-admits.html?showComment=1314459245940#c7744671925115289782 | Aug 29 21:55 |
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ender_2600 | what school doesn't receive government money to push propaganda | Aug 29 21:55 |
ender_2600 | heres a hint: none | Aug 29 21:55 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, so now , your also a word cop is that it ? | Aug 29 21:55 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, how high minded of you ;) | Aug 29 21:55 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - what are you, the cops? | Aug 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: churches get tax exemptions | Aug 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | spiritual places | Aug 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | free mental care | Aug 29 21:55 |
ender_2600 | yeah | Aug 29 21:55 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, SO sorry , that facts are inconvenient to you ;) | Aug 29 21:55 |
ender_2600 | they should tax churches | Aug 29 21:55 |
ender_2600 | neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't fact | Aug 29 21:56 |
neighborlee | prove it | Aug 29 21:56 |
neighborlee | I dare ya. | Aug 29 21:56 |
schestowitz | liike all businesses | Aug 29 21:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Now !reading Arthur Conan Doyle's "A Study in Scarlet" !books !epub How that whole #Sherlock_Holmes thing started | Aug 29 21:56 | |
ender_2600 | prove what | Aug 29 21:56 |
ender_2600 | why should I be doing your homework for you? | Aug 29 21:57 |
ender_2600 | you should be fact checking your own info before spewing bullshit | Aug 29 21:57 |
neighborlee | your words, not mine. | Aug 29 21:57 |
neighborlee | <ender_2600> neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't fact < prove it. | Aug 29 21:57 |
neighborlee | your words, not mine. | Aug 29 21:57 |
ender_2600 | how do I prove a negative? | Aug 29 21:57 |
ender_2600 | its your burden to prove its true | Aug 29 21:57 |
neighborlee | its your statement..DEAL with it ;) | Aug 29 21:57 |
neighborlee | wimp! | Aug 29 21:57 |
ender_2600 | now you're gonna call me names? | Aug 29 21:58 |
neighborlee | ok, how about liar | Aug 29 21:58 |
ender_2600 | because you can't prove your claims? | Aug 29 21:58 |
neighborlee | you said,now you can't back it up | Aug 29 21:58 |
ender_2600 | how old are *you* ? | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | right back at ya baby | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | <ender_2600> neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't fact | Aug 29 21:59 |
ender_2600 | you're the one claiming all sorts of nonsense without backing it up | Aug 29 21:59 |
MinceR | Window, Icon, Menu, Pointing device | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | prove it | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | <ender_2600> neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't fact | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | prove it | Aug 29 21:59 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 21:59 |
ender_2600 | I did | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | waiting.... | Aug 29 21:59 |
neighborlee | where | Aug 29 21:59 |
ender_2600 | http://www.joint-rolling-guide.com/marijuana-myths-and-facts.html | Aug 29 22:00 |
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neighborlee | ender_2600, LOL..how juvenile | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | ender_2600, typical. | Aug 29 22:00 |
ender_2600 | typical? | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | Im done with this juvenile conversation. | Aug 29 22:00 |
ender_2600 | juvenile? | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | I did not stutter. | Aug 29 22:00 |
ender_2600 | 'talk to the hand' | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | fine. | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | lol | Aug 29 22:00 |
ender_2600 | dumbass | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | OHHH big words | Aug 29 22:00 |
neighborlee | help me mommy | Aug 29 22:01 |
ender_2600 | heres a religious one for you | Aug 29 22:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at #Mandriva Linux 2011 http://ur1.ca/4zhjt http://ur1.ca/4zhjv | Aug 29 22:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've been working hard to make up for all the time spent on the weekend family barbeque: http://ur1.ca/4zhjy | Aug 29 22:01 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mandriva Linux 2011.0 Released | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 53.38 KB | Aug 29 22:01 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20110829T205801-kq9lay8.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.37 KB | Aug 29 22:01 |
ender_2600 | <juvenile>when God said 'let there be light' he asked your mom to move her fat ass</juvenile> | Aug 29 22:01 |
ender_2600 | were you able to process that | Aug 29 22:01 |
neighborlee | process what ? | Aug 29 22:01 |
ender_2600 | was it juvenile enough for you | Aug 29 22:01 |
neighborlee | I see nothing of substances from you | Aug 29 22:02 |
neighborlee | Excuse me ? | Aug 29 22:02 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 29 22:02 |
neighborlee | Sorry, I still see nothing of any substances.. ;) | Aug 29 22:02 |
MinceR | ender_2600: he couldn't process it, be more juvenile | Aug 29 22:02 |
neighborlee | MOving right along | Aug 29 22:02 |
neighborlee | schestowitz, great channel..:) | Aug 29 22:02 |
neighborlee | MOving right along--0 | Aug 29 22:02 |
*neighborlee (~neighborl@unaffiliated/neighborlee) has left #techrights ("Leaving") | Aug 29 22:02 | |
MinceR | damn, show's over | Aug 29 22:03 |
ender_2600 | 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the gays from the straights. | Aug 29 22:03 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 29 22:03 |
ender_2600 | lol hes still online | Aug 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | :-) | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | i just msged him saying hes a dumbass | Aug 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | maybe playing with his pet dog | Aug 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | anyway, he was helping against mono | Aug 29 22:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ms. Bachmann claims earthquake/hurricane a message from god? Which fundamentalists are we supposed to be afraid of again? #FacePalm | Aug 29 22:04 | |
ender_2600 | ROFL | Aug 29 22:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Masked Protesters Aid Time Warner’s Bottom Line http://ur1.ca/4zhke that was predictable :-) | Aug 29 22:04 | |
schestowitz | So I remember his positively for that | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <ender_2600> dumbass | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> stalking | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> illlegal | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> #freenode shall know about this. | Aug 29 22:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> I did not push you to do this | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> too bad. | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <ender_2600> go for it | Aug 29 22:04 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> enjoy:) | Aug 29 22:04 |
MinceR | http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ | Aug 29 22:05 |
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schestowitz | LOL | Aug 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | he won't do a thing | Aug 29 22:05 |
MinceR | LOL | Aug 29 22:05 |
MinceR | "stalking" | Aug 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | hehe | Aug 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | aka "IM" | Aug 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | or DM | Aug 29 22:05 |
MinceR | or PM | Aug 29 22:05 |
MinceR | http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htm | Aug 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | it's him who came to a channel ender has been in for YEARS | Aug 29 22:05 |
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schestowitz | if anyone could stalk here... it's not ender | Aug 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | anyhoo... | Aug 29 22:06 |
ender_2600 | lol | Aug 29 22:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I don't see what I should bother to promote works that the creators don't want promoted. | Aug 29 22:06 | |
ender_2600 | I went into #freenode and said he was trolling | Aug 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | MinceR: do we really still need to discuss this thing about lost scrolls written by primitive men? | Aug 29 22:06 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> I am. RIGHT Now | Aug 29 22:06 |
ender_2600 | 17:55 <neighborlee> see me in the channel ? | Aug 29 22:06 |
ender_2600 | 17:56 <neighborlee> yup , thats me..and you are reported for stalking | Aug 29 22:06 |
MinceR | i guess not, unless it's funny | Aug 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | I think #freenode will be funny now | Aug 29 22:07 |
MinceR | sadly, i couldn't find the Demolition Man quote about salt being harmful and therefore illegal | Aug 29 22:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCOracle Wants An End To Open Source http://ur1.ca/4zhkx | Aug 29 22:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's biggest enemy? #VMware http://ur1.ca/4zhl7 | Aug 29 22:11 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat's biggest enemy? VMware | ZDNet .::. Size~: 113.98 KB | Aug 29 22:11 |
schestowitz | MinceR: I think I recall that | Aug 29 22:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very funny thing happening today in #freenode - someone who entered #techrights decided that direct message="stalking". Trolls abound again. | Aug 29 22:13 | |
schestowitz | Sanda explained that to the thugster, Stallone, IIRC | Aug 29 22:13 |
schestowitz | *Sandra | Aug 29 22:13 |
schestowitz | BTW.. | Aug 29 22:13 |
schestowitz | I checked Stallone's bio in wikipedia | Aug 29 22:13 |
schestowitz | They brushed out all him past beating up people for lenders | Aug 29 22:13 |
schestowitz | Amazing how people can make truth just vanish | Aug 29 22:13 |
schestowitz | Maybe his PR firms | Aug 29 22:13 |
MinceR | i couldn't recall it exactly | Aug 29 22:14 |
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MinceR | even though it would have fit the cultist troll's stance on drugs pretty well :> | Aug 29 22:14 |
schestowitz | http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/08/linux-ipad/ | Aug 29 22:15 |
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schestowitz | hello DDRP | Aug 29 22:15 |
DDRP | Greetings | Aug 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | new around here? | Aug 29 22:15 |
ender_2600 | is that an anagram for DERP? | Aug 29 22:15 |
DDRP | Yes. No, I'm palmerv0r | Aug 29 22:15 |
MinceR | it's better to buy good quality hardware in the first place | Aug 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | Hi palmer | Aug 29 22:16 |
MinceR | ender_2600: no, it has no "E" in it | Aug 29 22:16 |
DDRP | I read your Tweet and thought I'd be nosey | Aug 29 22:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] try Eric Swett's #postapocalyptic "Alone" (part 69) http://ur1.ca/4zhih... or you can start at the beginning: http://ur1.ca/4zhlg !SelfPub | Aug 29 22:16 | |
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ender_2600 | I wanted one of those firesale touchpad | Aug 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | DDRP: sure, go ahead | Aug 29 22:16 |
ender_2600 | mincer E can be a D | Aug 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | Well, there was some guy here who argued with ender_2600 | Aug 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | He left in anger | Aug 29 22:16 |
MinceR | ender_2600: huh? | Aug 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | Then ender_2600 DMed him | Aug 29 22:17 |
ender_2600 | then accused me of stalking him | Aug 29 22:17 |
*abeNd-org (~KKlenke@vpn.hebisd.edu) has joined #techrights | Aug 29 22:17 | |
ender_2600 | 17:56 <neighborlee> yup , thats me..and you are reported for stalking | Aug 29 22:17 |
ender_2600 | 18:02 <neighborlee> even if I can't find a OP right now..They will return soon | Aug 29 22:17 |
ender_2600 | enough..and when they do.TRUST ME , you are on report for | Aug 29 22:17 |
ender_2600 | stalking/abuse..have a great day , wont you ;) | Aug 29 22:17 |
ThistleWeb | he has a magnetic personality | Aug 29 22:17 |
Diablo-D3 | cant we just ban him? | Aug 29 22:18 |
ender_2600 | thistleweb, hows that interpol report going | Aug 29 22:18 |
Diablo-D3 | and ender_2600 too? | Aug 29 22:18 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: i wish we could | Aug 29 22:18 |
MinceR | i don't know what our policy regarding trolls is | Aug 29 22:18 |
ender_2600 | im not a troll | Aug 29 22:18 |
Diablo-D3 | well, they let Roy here | Aug 29 22:18 |
Diablo-D3 | so | Aug 29 22:18 |
*Diablo-D3 runs | Aug 29 22:18 | |
MinceR | yes you are | Aug 29 22:18 |
schestowitz | MinceR practically could, but only repeat trolls are ever treated this severely | Aug 29 22:18 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: they also let you here | Aug 29 22:18 |
schestowitz | like "snit" | Aug 29 22:18 |
ender_2600 | if "i'm" a troll, so are all of you | Aug 29 22:18 |
MinceR | schestowitz: and "yuhong"? | Aug 29 22:18 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I dont troll that much anymore | Aug 29 22:18 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: I'm channel admin | Aug 29 22:18 |
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MinceR | ender_2600: that's not how it works | Aug 29 22:19 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: well, you don't talk much anymore :> | Aug 29 22:19 |
schestowitz | MinceR: he was never banned | Aug 29 22:19 |
MinceR | schestowitz: my point exactly | Aug 29 22:19 |
ender_2600 | mincer - it is when there is no centralized topic of discussion | Aug 29 22:19 |
schestowitz | he's inactive in just about everything | Aug 29 22:19 |
schestowitz | He used to have MSN Space | Aug 29 22:19 |
schestowitz | IIRC | Aug 29 22:19 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: meh | Aug 29 22:19 |
ender_2600 | everything anyone says could be considered trolling to someone else | Aug 29 22:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hey Interwebs: there's a new acronym in town: TZAG (for "Time Zone Appropriate Greetings") a perfect netizen greeting (coined by satipera) | Aug 29 22:19 | |
schestowitz | also twitter account, other web presence where he trolled with pro-Microsoft marketing one-liners | Aug 29 22:19 |
ender_2600 | twitter accounts dont make you bad | Aug 29 22:20 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: usually it's the FOSS issues du jour | Aug 29 22:20 |
schestowitz | Nowadays lots about patents being used offensively | Aug 29 22:20 |
ender_2600 | in a discussion there are more than one point of view | Aug 29 22:20 |
ender_2600 | otherwise its a cult | Aug 29 22:20 |
schestowitz | IIRC, yuhoung did get banned in 2008, Homer banned him | Aug 29 22:21 |
MinceR | ender_2600: it isn't about points of view | Aug 29 22:21 |
DDRP | I think I am being trolled by somebody at work, I've called them a brown-noser. Probably not wise but bleh | Aug 29 22:21 |
MinceR | it's about offensive behavior for the sake of being offensive | Aug 29 22:21 |
schestowitz | he was promoting vista nonstop here, buzz marketing | Aug 29 22:21 |
ender_2600 | yeah but i'm not outputing offensive behavior just to piss people off | Aug 29 22:21 |
ender_2600 | I have strong opinions and I express them regardless of who you are | Aug 29 22:21 |
MinceR | doesn't look like that to me | Aug 29 22:21 |
schestowitz | DDRP: yes, work politics are tough, esp. when one shares physical space | Aug 29 22:22 |
*DDRP has strong opinions | Aug 29 22:22 | |
ender_2600 | mincer - you and I had a civil discussion yesterday about how much outlook sucks | Aug 29 22:22 |
schestowitz | and people start gossiping about colleagues.. with other colleagues. I never liked that too much, and besides... I had to shave every. bloody. day. :-) | Aug 29 22:22 |
schestowitz | DDRP: strong="non conformist" | Aug 29 22:23 |
DDRP | Shaving? Waste of time | Aug 29 22:23 |
MinceR | ender_2600: you also behaved in less civil ways at other times | Aug 29 22:23 |
schestowitz | DDRP: yeah | Aug 29 22:23 |
ender_2600 | mincer - was I a troll when I first joined this channel? | Aug 29 22:23 |
schestowitz | unless you can read at the same time :-) | Aug 29 22:23 |
ender_2600 | sometimes im just more blunt | Aug 29 22:23 |
DDRP | I'm a fan of Stallman, that's why I have a serious beard | Aug 29 22:24 |
ender_2600 | its not that im trying to start fights | Aug 29 22:24 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: you were more conformist when you joined | Aug 29 22:24 |
schestowitz | IIRC it was around the time the ACCESS troll was harrassing us both and issuing threats | Aug 29 22:24 |
ender_2600 | yeah | Aug 29 22:24 |
MinceR | ender_2600: i don't remember | Aug 29 22:24 |
ThistleWeb | this reminds me of the cupboard opening and lots of stuff falling out, the solution being to simply force all the same stuff back into the cupboard and fight to close the door without ever wondering why it's happening | Aug 29 22:24 |
ender_2600 | now im a 'troll' because im not conforming | Aug 29 22:24 |
schestowitz | DDRP: John maddog hall has a much more deadly beard than RMS' | Aug 29 22:25 |
ender_2600 | my opinion deviated from FOSS extremism to pragmatism | Aug 29 22:25 |
MinceR | ender_2600: calling free software and the FSF "communism" just to be offensive is not just "not conforming" | Aug 29 22:25 |
ender_2600 | it wasn't to be offensive | Aug 29 22:25 |
schestowitz | RMS used to have a much longer beard, he trimmed it some years ago. | Aug 29 22:25 |
ender_2600 | that was my opinion | Aug 29 22:25 |
DDRP | Alan Cox++; | Aug 29 22:25 |
schestowitz | He's in Intel now | Aug 29 22:25 |
schestowitz | Serving a monopoly | Aug 29 22:25 |
schestowitz | he used to helop red hat the underdog | Aug 29 22:25 |
ender_2600 | it did seem like communism but thats only because of the extremists who push RMS's ideas to unrealistic heights | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | Intel is polluted by snobs who work there | Aug 29 22:26 |
DDRP | Redhat has moved away from FOSS.... at $job we've abandoned that and moved to Debian | Aug 29 22:26 |
Diablo-D3 | maddog's beard is angrier | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | If you meet a few, you will know and see... | Aug 29 22:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 3.0.4 http://lwn.net/Articles/456771/rss | Aug 29 22:26 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Stable kernel 3.0.4 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.5 KB | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | DDRP: kvm is red hat | Aug 29 22:26 |
DDRP | True | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/red-hats-biggest-enemy-vmware/9468 | Aug 29 22:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat's biggest enemy? VMware | ZDNet .::. Size~: 111.48 KB | Aug 29 22:26 |
Diablo-D3 | kvm is not entirely redhat | Aug 29 22:26 |
DDRP | Better than VMware though | Aug 29 22:26 |
Diablo-D3 | it has a lot of community support | Aug 29 22:26 |
Diablo-D3 | its still shit though | Aug 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | I installed Debian on my server this month | Aug 29 22:26 |
Diablo-D3 | xen > kvm | Aug 29 22:26 |
ender_2600 | nah | Aug 29 22:26 |
ender_2600 | xen is shit | Aug 29 22:27 |
ender_2600 | case study: is this trolling or disagreement | Aug 29 22:27 |
Diablo-D3 | ^ proof ender_2600 is a troll. | Aug 29 22:27 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 22:27 |
Diablo-D3 | goddamnit. | Aug 29 22:27 |
DDRP | Xen's problem has been lack of merging with the mainstream kernel | Aug 29 22:27 |
schestowitz | dom0 | Aug 29 22:27 |
ender_2600 | Xen's problem is that you need to know what dom0 means | Aug 29 22:27 |
schestowitz | doesn'e 3.0 or 2.6.39 integrate xen support? | Aug 29 22:28 |
MinceR | DDRP: funny, because now debian is pushing mono and red hat isn't pushing it | Aug 29 22:28 |
ender_2600 | I should just be able to plug in any OS | Aug 29 22:28 |
schestowitz | !google xen support in linux 3.0 | Aug 29 22:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Xen celebrates full Dom0 and DomU support in Linux 3.0 – blog.xen ... | http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2011/06/02/xen-celebrates-full-dom0-and-domu-support-in-linux-3-0/ | Aug 29 22:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linux 3.0 – How did we get initial domain (dom0) support there - Xen | http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2011/06/14/linux-3-0-how-did-we-get-initial-domain-dom0-support-there/ | Aug 29 22:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Welcome to xen.org, home of the Xen® hypervisor, the powerful ... | http://xen.org/ | Aug 29 22:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Linux 3.0 Will Have Full Xen Support - Slashdot | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/06/03/0328206/Linux-30-Will-Have-Full-Xen-Support | Aug 29 22:28 |
DDRP | Mono? Aren't M$ giving up on .Net anyway? | Aug 29 22:28 |
ender_2600 | DDRP - yes | Aug 29 22:28 |
schestowitz | MinceR: debian has lower risk of being sued by Microsoft's patent cartel | Aug 29 22:28 |
ender_2600 | we still need to fear Mono, even in Canada where they have no patent | Aug 29 22:28 |
DDRP | T schestowitz that's interesting. I wasn't aware of that | Aug 29 22:28 |
MinceR | schestowitz: what about its users though? | Aug 29 22:29 |
schestowitz | microbauer and directhex were pushing mono into debian | Aug 29 22:29 |
ender_2600 | I should start a company in Canada called Firefox | Aug 29 22:29 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: does anyone really file for patents in canada and not the US? | Aug 29 22:29 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz - yes, and vice versa | Aug 29 22:30 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz - the US has the invention secrecy act | Aug 29 22:30 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: http://i.imgur.com/DytDI.gif | Aug 29 22:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Aug 29 22:30 |
ender_2600 | they can steal your invention and gag you under 'national security' | Aug 29 22:30 |
schestowitz | ender_2600: you can maybe distribute and advetrtise this in canads only? | Aug 29 22:30 |
schestowitz | BTW, wasn't a Canadian behind creating firefox? | Aug 29 22:31 |
ender_2600 | sure | Aug 29 22:31 |
schestowitz | or whatever it was first called.. | Aug 29 22:31 |
DDRP | Well, you need to know your master. Surely you respect national security? | Aug 29 22:31 |
ender_2600 | I could even have firefox.ca | Aug 29 22:31 |
schestowitz | Firebird | Aug 29 22:31 |
schestowitz | phoenix... | Aug 29 22:31 |
DDRP | Government makes the sun shine and the grass grow. Why the hell shouldn't they steal your invention? | Aug 29 22:31 |
ender_2600 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act | Aug 29 22:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Invention Secrecy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 25.52 KB | Aug 29 22:32 |
ender_2600 | I love that one | Aug 29 22:32 |
ender_2600 | Anonymous pointed it out | Aug 29 22:32 |
ender_2600 | I acutally know someone who is a victim of this too | Aug 29 22:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Sing your song. Dance your dance. Tell your tale." ~ Frank McCourt !q (via Sherri Patrick Mertens) | Aug 29 22:33 | |
ender_2600 | Patrick Mitch Cluck | Aug 29 22:33 |
ender_2600 | Roy, I sent you his resume | Aug 29 22:33 |
ender_2600 | We have his permission to leak that US pamphlet which proves that the US was hiding technology and breaking NATO treaty | Aug 29 22:33 |
Diablo-D3 | dude, just because I hid a time machine in my basement doesnt mean the US government knew about it | Aug 29 22:34 |
ender_2600 | "NO FORN" = no foreign nationals | Aug 29 22:34 |
DaemonFC | anything that is unclassified is sure to leak out anyway | Aug 29 22:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] TZAF Identi.ca (copyright laurelrusswurm) :-) | Aug 29 22:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Honesty [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/oXCKq.gif | Aug 29 22:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Aug 29 22:34 |
DaemonFC | why do they even bother with those classifications of unclassified documents? | Aug 29 22:34 |
ender_2600 | i dont the real stuff leaks | Aug 29 22:35 |
ender_2600 | doubt | Aug 29 22:35 |
DaemonFC | the US government has made a lot of really bad IT decisions | Aug 29 22:35 |
DaemonFC | a lot of their websites malfunction constantly | Aug 29 22:36 |
DaemonFC | it's embarrassing | Aug 29 22:36 |
ender_2600 | daemonfc - its more of a decoy than anything | Aug 29 22:36 |
ender_2600 | a 'poster' as xkcd put it | Aug 29 22:37 |
DDRP | You mean like saying PGP is a munitions? | Aug 29 22:37 |
schestowitz | !google solidarity zimmerman pgp | Aug 29 22:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Why I Wrote PGP | http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html | Aug 29 22:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Why do you need PGP? | http://www.pgpi.org/doc/whypgp/en/ | Aug 29 22:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Essay: Government Intervention Of The Internet | http://onlineessays.com/essays/tech/tech10.php | Aug 29 22:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Freedom through Encryption | http://www.fff.org/freedom/0695d.asp | Aug 29 22:38 |
schestowitz | !google schmidt privacy doing something you should not be doing | Aug 29 22:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google chief: Only miscreants worry about net privacy • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/07/schmidt_on_privacy/ | Aug 29 22:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google CEO: Secrets Are for Filthy People | http://gawker.com/5419271/google-ceo-secrets-are-for-filthy-people | Aug 29 22:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google CEO On Privacy (VIDEO): 'If You Have Something You Don't ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/google-ceo-on-privacy-if_n_383105.html | Aug 29 22:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google CEO: if you want privacy, do you have something to hide ... | http://blogs.computerworld.com/15234/google_ceo_if_you_want_privacy_do_you_have_something_to_hide | Aug 29 22:39 |
DDRP | Unfortunately it seems the people who think they should be open, because they have nothing to hide, are winning >=\ | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | It depends what they open | Aug 29 22:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @FWMReporter: Cable describes Israeli view of #Gaza, #WestBank in 2007... #wlfind http://t.co/iwwkos8 | Aug 29 22:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Government" OED. The practice of keeping the rich rich. !capitalism | Aug 29 22:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | There is the 'faceboo' open | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | Like a rectal examination into one's life | Aug 29 22:39 |
schestowitz | And there is professional open | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | Where business conduct is kept transparent | Aug 29 22:40 |
DDRP | Mark Zuckerberg thinks privacy is deprecated, you're not saying he's wrong, are you? | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | Gogle tracks people's surfing habits | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | I wouldn't suggest that politician's should have rsync cron job of their history.dat to a public_html somewhere | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | They don't need EVERYTHING logged | Aug 29 22:40 |
schestowitz | politicians do need to show ow decision-making comes about though | Aug 29 22:41 |
DDRP | What politicians do should be a matter of public record. What I do in my private life is nobody's business | Aug 29 22:41 |
schestowitz | When they surf the Web they might also look at things unrelated to their duties | Aug 29 22:41 |
DDRP | They are public servants, not 'officials' | Aug 29 22:41 |
schestowitz | But they also have a private life | Aug 29 22:42 |
schestowitz | A policeman asked me,whatb about if their wife is a politician | Aug 29 22:42 |
schestowitz | That'sm where it gets tricky | Aug 29 22:42 |
DDRP | Yeah, I don't care whose wife they're having an affair with. I care about what money they're embezzling | Aug 29 22:42 |
schestowitz | or pprotecting | Aug 29 22:44 |
schestowitz | to get a portion back after their term | Aug 29 22:44 |
schestowitz | or to get the job (revolving door) | Aug 29 22:44 |
schestowitz | they swap power with money and vice versa | Aug 29 22:44 |
schestowitz | It's an exchange of interest | Aug 29 22:44 |
schestowitz | !google mark taibi revolving doors | Aug 29 22:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The S.E.C.'s Revolving Door: From Wall Street Lawyers to Wall ... | http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-s-e-c-s-revolving-door-from-wall-street-lawyers-to-wall-street-watchdogs-20110330 | Aug 29 22:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Revolving Door: FCC Commissioner Votes For Comcast/NBC ... | http://jonathanturley.org/2011/05/12/revolving-door-fcc-commissioner-votes-for-comcastnbc-merger-and-four-months-later-given-position-as-senior-vice-president-in-comcast-nbc/ | Aug 29 22:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - THE REVOLVING DOOR: 29 People Who Went From Wall Street To ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-washington-revolving-door-2011-4 | Aug 29 22:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - SEC criticized for file destruction- MSN Money | http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx%3Fpost%3Dfddcda65-57ad-40e1-bbb7-6693b863a823 | Aug 29 22:45 |
ender_2600 | 18:31 < DDRP> Mark Zuckerberg thinks privacy is deprecated, you're not saying he's wrong, are you? | Aug 29 22:45 |
ender_2600 | 18:31 < schestowitz> Gogle tracks people's surfing habits | Aug 29 22:45 |
ender_2600 | unless you're smart (www.i2p2.de) | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | it's not fast | Aug 29 22:46 |
DDRP | I use www.startpage.com, they proxy you to Google over SSL | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | you can: | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | not use search engines | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | just other services | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | logged off | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | disabled cookies | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | disabled js | Aug 29 22:46 |
schestowitz | disable/disallow google*, youtube*... | Aug 29 22:47 |
schestowitz | and then | Aug 29 22:47 |
ender_2600 | nah | Aug 29 22:47 |
ender_2600 | thats not enough | Aug 29 22:47 |
schestowitz | !google oinion google pribvacy | Aug 29 22:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Hotspots: Second Life's New Controversies « Gwyn's Home | http://gwynethllewelyn.net/2007/05/10/hotspots-second-lifes-new-controversies/ | Aug 29 22:47 |
schestowitz | !google onion google privacy | Aug 29 22:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google Opt Out Feature Lets Users Protect Privacy By ... - The Onion | http://www.theonion.com/video/google-opt-out-feature-lets-users-protect-privacy,14358/ | Aug 29 22:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google Responds To Privacy Concerns With Unsettlingly Specific ... | http://www.theonion.com/articles/google-responds-to-privacy-concerns-with-unsettlin,16891/ | Aug 29 22:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Onion: Google Responds To Privacy Concerns With Unsettlingly ... | http://boingboing.net/2010/03/02/onion-google-respond.html | Aug 29 22:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google Privacy Opt Out Announced Via The Onion | TechCrunch | http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/12/google-privacy-opt-out-announced-via-the-onion/ | Aug 29 22:47 |
ender_2600 | fuck google | Aug 29 22:47 |
ender_2600 | DDG | Aug 29 22:47 |
ender_2600 | https://duckduckgo.com | Aug 29 22:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 4.33 KB | Aug 29 22:47 |
ender_2600 | has a tor exit node enclave | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | makes it fast | Aug 29 22:48 |
schestowitz | !google techrights duck duck go | Aug 29 22:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - DuckDuckGo: Another Front End to Microsoft for Some ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/07/19/to-microsoft-in-search/ | Aug 29 22:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Search | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/search/ | Aug 29 22:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: July 22nd, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/irc-log-techrights-22072011.html | Aug 29 22:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 28th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/irc-log-techrights-28012011.html | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | yeah I see your overexaggeration | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | its also google, and wolfram | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | and wikipedia | Aug 29 22:48 |
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ender_2600 | and blogsearch | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | not just bing | Aug 29 22:48 |
schestowitz | use wikipedia where possible | Aug 29 22:48 |
schestowitz | I have it as deafult search bar in konquror | Aug 29 22:48 |
MinceR | i didn't see them mention google in their list of engines | Aug 29 22:48 |
schestowitz | *uerror | Aug 29 22:48 |
amarsh04 | morning from Sydney airport | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | i dont | Aug 29 22:48 |
ender_2600 | wikipedia is modifiable by anyone | Aug 29 22:48 |
MinceR | only in the bang page, which are just redirects | Aug 29 22:49 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: morning | Aug 29 22:49 |
MinceR | for lack of better options, i use DDG and StartPage | Aug 29 22:49 |
schestowitz | how was Japan? | Aug 29 22:49 |
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ender_2600 | I use i2p and DDG | Aug 29 22:49 |
schestowitz | you;e beign tracked so it makes sense | Aug 29 22:49 |
ender_2600 | everyone should be on i2p | Aug 29 22:50 |
schestowitz | I remember when I asked PJ (Groklaw) why she would not use PGP enc. with me | Aug 29 22:50 |
ender_2600 | it would be impossible to track anyone then | Aug 29 22:50 |
ender_2600 | it would be faster too | Aug 29 22:50 |
schestowitz | she said it would draw inmore attention | Aug 29 22:50 |
amarsh04 | customs and transfer inbound at Sydney was more confusing than Sydney transfer and outbound and more confusing than arrival at Narita | Aug 29 22:50 |
schestowitz | Well, that's what PGP is supposed to /prevent/ | Aug 29 22:50 |
schestowitz | I don't mail some people cause they have hotmail accounts | Aug 29 22:50 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 22:50 |
ender_2600 | well I dont want to hear people bark privacy and not use something to cover their tracks | Aug 29 22:51 |
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ender_2600 | at least TOR | Aug 29 22:51 |
schestowitz | Vote for TORIES | Aug 29 22:51 |
DDRP | People send me invites for Google+, Gmail etc. I ignore it all | Aug 29 22:51 |
schestowitz | ys, same here | Aug 29 22:52 |
schestowitz | Google didn't have me opt-in | Aug 29 22:52 |
schestowitz | It sends them sparingly | Aug 29 22:52 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz no it doesnt | Aug 29 22:52 |
ender_2600 | your friends opt you in | Aug 29 22:52 |
amarsh04 | one also needs alternatives to wikipedia, it's pretty bad when something factual that you've manually added gets removed by someone who thinks that they are more superior than you | Aug 29 22:52 |
schestowitz | If it was a small company, ther federal agencies would shut it down and bankruipt the founder | Aug 29 22:52 |
ender_2600 | maybe you should get rid of your friends | Aug 29 22:52 |
schestowitz | as they already did with some company whose name I can't recall | Aug 29 22:52 |
schestowitz | for sending spurious mail to encourage subs | Aug 29 22:53 |
ender_2600 | they tried with PGP | Aug 29 22:53 |
ender_2600 | LOL | Aug 29 22:53 |
schestowitz | google uses gmail as its excuse for spamming | Aug 29 22:53 |
schestowitz | it built up peopel's address book | Aug 29 22:53 |
schestowitz | harvesting data | Aug 29 22:53 |
ender_2600 | the owner released the guerilla version of PGP | Aug 29 22:53 |
amarsh04 | even if it's just locally mirroring what you've added | Aug 29 22:53 |
schestowitz | Now it uses it to justidy mass distribution of unwanted mal people tell me they 'sent' me _by accident_ | Aug 29 22:53 |
ender_2600 | schestowitz - i'd fear more about my privacy coming in here vs using google | Aug 29 22:54 |
amarsh04 | anyway, should head off and let someone else use this. | Aug 29 22:54 |
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ender_2600 | in fact roy perhaps you shouldnt even use your name online | Aug 29 22:54 |
schestowitz | google is not irc | Aug 29 22:54 |
schestowitz | google is now google.com | Aug 29 22:54 |
schestowitz | google is urchin | Aug 29 22:54 |
schestowitz | it's outube | Aug 29 22:54 |
ender_2600 | anything your name is tied to is being harvested | Aug 29 22:54 |
schestowitz | which load up when you visit pages | Aug 29 22:54 |
DDRP | Despite my best efforts, my old Pater has moved to Gmail, away from my server. I told them they read his email but it makes no difference. It just means I don't email him any more, I use the phone | Aug 29 22:54 |
ender_2600 | google gets your irc logs | Aug 29 22:55 |
schestowitz | same with the "like"buttom of GB and the likes of that | Aug 29 22:55 |
schestowitz | They track you | Aug 29 22:55 |
ender_2600 | they track you anyways | Aug 29 22:55 |
schestowitz | Even if you don't use Chrome or have a pagerank-using extension | Aug 29 22:55 |
ender_2600 | i2p or shutup about tracking | Aug 29 22:55 |
ender_2600 | its a problem that has been solved by the community | Aug 29 22:55 |
ender_2600 | not whining to the government | Aug 29 22:55 |
DDRP | I don't call to the government, they are not the saviour | Aug 29 22:56 |
schestowitz | !google andre google analytics eu commission | Aug 29 22:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - German Govt. Says Google Analytics Now Verboten | http://searchengineland.com/german-govt-says-google-analytics-now-verboten-61109 | Aug 29 22:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - IkonoKlash » | http://www.ikonoklash.com/ | Aug 29 22:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Video: The EU cookie law in 2.5 minutes - Andrew R H Girdwood | http://blog.arhg.net/2011/06/video-eu-cookie-law-in-25-minutes.html | Aug 29 22:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cookies Law: Ah the Irony! - Andrew Westgarth | http://www.andrewwestgarth.co.uk/blog/post/2011/05/23/Cookies-Law-Ah-the-Irony!.aspx | Aug 29 22:56 |
ender_2600 | I call to end government | Aug 29 22:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 1Z4F743V6892642150 is the magic number. Will it be tomorrow or wednesday? Argl. | Aug 29 22:56 | |
ender_2600 | :) | Aug 29 22:56 |
MinceR | alternatives to wikipedia really need to gain mindshare | Aug 29 22:56 |
DDRP | T ender_2600 I'm surprised it's still legal to say that | Aug 29 22:56 |
schestowitz | DDRP: he gets harrassed for it | Aug 29 22:57 |
MinceR | DDRP: if fascism continues to spread the way it did in the last few years, it will soon be illegal | Aug 29 22:57 |
DDRP | It will be, yes | Aug 29 22:57 |
DDRP | There's a law for everything | Aug 29 22:57 |
schestowitz | I listened to the oggcamp audio today | Aug 29 22:57 |
schestowitz | One of the guys there said he came from a c9ommunist regime country | Aug 29 22:57 |
schestowitz | And they spoke about #ukriots | Aug 29 22:58 |
schestowitz | Then he said, in communism it's quietr int he sreets | Aug 29 22:58 |
schestowitz | But not in a good way | Aug 29 22:58 |
schestowitz | People are scared to their bone | Aug 29 22:58 |
DDRP | Oggcamp? I'll have ro look that up | Aug 29 22:58 |
schestowitz | The liberty means having to cope with some misuse of freedom, and tolerating it, too | Aug 29 22:58 |
schestowitz | that was the ubuntu uk podcast and linux outlaws podcast | Aug 29 22:59 |
schestowitz | http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ | Aug 29 22:59 |
MinceR | gn | Aug 29 22:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sixgun Productions .::. Size~: 31.87 KB | Aug 29 22:59 |
schestowitz | ep 224 | Aug 29 22:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A mate watched m/bike racing in the 6 counties. He bought a fleece that included an advert for a skip hire co. We took the piss mercilessly. | Aug 29 22:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld || Vasco wouldn't comment || http://ping.fm/j6kT7 | Aug 29 22:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld || Vasco wouldn't comment || | Aug 29 22:59 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld .::. Size~: 134.91 KB | Aug 29 22:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sorry for duplication there | Aug 29 23:04 | |
schestowitz | ender_2600: https://identi.ca/notice/82013850 | Aug 29 23:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Dayo (jargon)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 21:59:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that company already exists. it's called duckduckgo.com :) | Aug 29 23:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !collect.kde.org is live! http://ur1.ca/4zhrp #kde | Aug 29 23:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Open WiFi and Pirates: Why Copyright Negligence Won’t Fly (Torrent Freak): http://bit.ly/nmg9A1 | Aug 29 23:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TransferSummit: Innovation, commoditisation and value creation http://ur1.ca/4zhrz #odf #standard | Aug 29 23:09 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: aseigo: collect.kde.org is live! .::. Size~: 64.51 KB | Aug 29 23:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 23:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TransferSummit: Innovation, commoditisation and value creation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.65 KB | Aug 29 23:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] As !Linux Moves Into a New Decade, Companies Look for Linux Talent | Linux.com http://ping.fm/xrzUD | Aug 29 23:13 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 29 23:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU Love [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4z98d !fsf #linux | Aug 29 23:14 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: { :title => 'technotalk' } - Gnu Love .::. Size~: 10.79 KB | Aug 29 23:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] sun-java6 packages removed soon from Debian/Ubuntu (and all other #linux distros) http://ur1.ca/4zhsh Retiring the #DLJ http://ur1.ca/4zhsi | Aug 29 23:16 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A frog around the world - sun-java6 packages removed soon from Debian/Ubuntu (and all other linux distros) .::. Size~: 26.86 KB | Aug 29 23:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: burek for breakfast - Retiring the DLJ .::. Size~: 21.96 KB | Aug 29 23:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The life expectancy of people in countries that NATO wants to bomb to free market !capitalism are reduced. | Aug 29 23:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] August has been the craziest tech month ever http://ur1.ca/4zhsu I don't agree at all. It has been reasonably quiet on all fronts. | Aug 29 23:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 (part 1) http://ur1.ca/4zhsy #mozilla #mpl | Aug 29 23:21 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 (part 1) | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.8 KB | Aug 29 23:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nouveau Fan Management Code Published http://ur1.ca/4zhtb for Fans of freedom | Aug 29 23:23 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Nouveau Fan Management Code Published .::. Size~: 17.98 KB | Aug 29 23:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple's & Microsoft's anti-social behaviour as of late (now more embargo attempts from Microsoft) validates @rms idea of proprietary ethics | Aug 29 23:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When thinking of Apple, think of "better the devil I know than the one I don't know". Swapping proprietary masters is never the solution. | Aug 29 23:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CyanogenMod Team Gets Android Working On HP #TouchPad http://ur1.ca/4zhu6 #hypepad too has been cracked open for #Linux | Aug 29 23:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Without Jobs as CEO, Who Speaks for the Arts at Apple? (Wired): http://bit.ly/nW80o0 | Aug 29 23:29 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CyanogenMod Team Gets Android Working On HP TouchPad | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 50.12 KB | Aug 29 23:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Without Jobs as CEO, Who Speaks for the Arts at Apple? | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.17 KB | Aug 29 23:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rapid Releases: How Are They Working for Firefox and Thunderbird 6? http://ur1.ca/4zhu9 stay with 3.x versions till Mozilla comes to senses | Aug 29 23:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I really had to LOL. #facepalm again. http://seldo.tumblr.com/post/9549775746/this-is-genuinely-microsofts-idea-of-a | Aug 29 23:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five Good Reasons to Try #Mandriva #Linux 2011 http://ur1.ca/4zhue good advocacy from the torch bearer @noyesk | Aug 29 23:33 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five Good Reasons to Try Mandriva Linux 2011 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 81.91 KB | Aug 29 23:33 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/82016171 | Aug 29 23:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 22:28:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Blue icons are so cold. | Aug 29 23:33 |
schestowitz | which blue icons? | Aug 29 23:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The hyped-up hurricane (Irene) has helped popularise the NY mayor, the government, FEMA, etc. It also helped training for future disasters. | Aug 29 23:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VMware's PR people are really mass-mailing ("spamming"?) people today. The conference got them overenthusiastic. Please stop. | Aug 29 23:38 | |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/82016665 | Aug 29 23:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 22:33:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The one you are using at the moment. | Aug 29 23:38 |
schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/c/ | Aug 29 23:38 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cloud.com is not open source (ignore the fake news), it's open_washed_ just like Facebook..and "private clouds" don't exist (swimming birds) | Aug 29 23:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a matter of 5 years, a lot of data that used to exist on people's machines (photos, documents, etc,) has magically moved to datacentres | Aug 29 23:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The honourable @rms is probably not exaggerating when he says that there is deliberate hype urging people to let loose their data (privacy) | Aug 29 23:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Companies never store your data "for free". They have a business mode. Nobody is doing 'charity' by hosting stuff _for you_. | Aug 29 23:44 | |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108305741051461632 | Aug 29 23:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @palmerv0r: @schestowitz you're not wrong. I'm sticking with Iceweasel on Debian Squeeze for everything I can | Aug 29 23:46 |
schestowitz | squeeze uses 3.5.x for me | Aug 29 23:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VMware, a champion of proprietary software (run by former Microsoft execs), is 'spamming' feeds with "open source" keywords.What utter lies. | Aug 29 23:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] In Unsettled Times, Media Can Be a Call to Action, or a Distraction http://ur1.ca/4zhwq #CounterEstablishment | Aug 29 23:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $company will open-source its open-source ideas that will be open-sourced for the open source community in an open source spirit. | Aug 29 23:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please contact us. No recriminations, just information. | Aug 29 23:46 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/82017707 | Aug 29 23:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 22:45:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz except birds can swim... | Aug 29 23:47 |
schestowitz | only Linux? In a proper way. | Aug 29 23:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after disabling #Linkdin email because of excess spam, it appears to have re-enabled itself to continue spamming, it's a fucking #Borg | Aug 29 23:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk only Linux? In a proper way. | Aug 29 23:48 | |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/noyesk/status/108309598267645953 | Aug 29 23:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @noyesk: @schestowitz Not too happy with Thunderbird 6. Are you really freezing? | Aug 29 23:49 |
DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/25/304387/bernie-sanders-introduces-bill-to-lift-the-payroll-tax-cap-ensuring-full-social-security-funding-for-nearly-75-years/ | Aug 29 23:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bernie Sanders Introduces Bill To Lift The Payroll Tax Cap, Ensuring Full Social Security Funding For Nearly 75 Years | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 32.16 KB | Aug 29 23:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] methinks it's time to delete the account rather than just disable email notifications, since they don't seem to respect that option | Aug 29 23:49 | |
schestowitz | I'm staying with 3.1 for now. I use about 10 extensions, can't risk losing compatibility. | Aug 29 23:49 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/abramh/status/108309701300731904\ | Aug 29 23:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Aug 29 23:50 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/abramh/status/108309701300731904 | Aug 29 23:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @abramh: @schestowitz The future of FLOSS could be turnkey P2P solutions that consumers can host or pay to host. Let consumers pay for their privacy. | Aug 29 23:50 |
schestowitz | Pay to host is different as they can control and move around their platform, e.g. wordpress in a homedir | Aug 29 23:51 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is open source fakers who have had many people fed up with the term "open source" http://ur1.ca/4zhxb | Aug 29 23:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] within minutes of being #spammed by #Linkedin despite me telling them not to, the account is now closed | Aug 29 23:53 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » I’m Almost Done with â€Open Sourceâ€. It Lost Its Way. .::. Size~: 34.81 KB | Aug 29 23:53 |
DaemonFC | https://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/27-1 | Aug 29 23:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution | Common Dreams .::. Size~: 117.39 KB | Aug 29 23:53 |
DaemonFC | I don't use Thunderbird | Aug 29 23:53 |
DaemonFC | KMail has improved so I got rid of Thunderbird yesterday | Aug 29 23:53 |
DaemonFC | Mozilla doesn't seem to care a whole hell of a lot what their software does to Linux users, and especially outside of Ubuntu | Aug 29 23:54 |
schestowitz | kmail looks good | Aug 29 23:54 |
schestowitz | But I escaped it | Aug 29 23:54 |
DaemonFC | (not just the platform, the desktop environment it defaults to) | Aug 29 23:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people use 'cloud' to access someone's proprietary apps, some use it4hosting, some for capacity. For latter, google "wikileaks amazon" | Aug 29 23:54 | |
DaemonFC | AMD and FGLRX seem to only care what Ubuntu and Compiz do | Aug 29 23:54 |
schestowitz | that's where I came to thunderbird 0.9 (IIRC) from | Aug 29 23:54 |
DaemonFC | a lot of influential software is only closely tracking Ubuntu | Aug 29 23:55 |
schestowitz | so use ubuntu for desktop? | Aug 29 23:55 |
schestowitz | I used thunderbird in SUSE | Aug 29 23:55 |
schestowitz | worked ok | Aug 29 23:55 |
DaemonFC | if you want mandatory mono and can stand Unity I guess | Aug 29 23:55 |
schestowitz | 1.0 and 1.5 later | Aug 29 23:55 |
schestowitz | 2.0 iirc came after I had dumped suse (novell deal with micfosoft) | Aug 29 23:56 |
DaemonFC | it still sucks to have all your choices taken away because of some idiots at Mozilla or AMD | Aug 29 23:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Broadcom's wireless drivers, one year later http://lwn.net/Articles/456762/rss | Aug 29 23:56 | |
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DaemonFC | that's the harm done by letting companies just point to Ubuntu and telling you to use it | Aug 29 23:57 |
schestowitz | for c/c++, ubuntu gives me the least hassle | Aug 29 23:57 |
schestowitz | I tried others | Aug 29 23:57 |
DaemonFC | it indirectly promotes Mono and Banshee | Aug 29 23:57 |
schestowitz | fedora is ok until some pckage in the repos is broken | Aug 29 23:57 |
DaemonFC | and legitimizes whatever they're doing with Unity this week | Aug 29 23:57 |
schestowitz | yeah | Aug 29 23:57 |
schestowitz | it's their frnt runner | Aug 29 23:57 |
schestowitz | flagship product | Aug 29 23:58 |
schestowitz | otherwise ubuntu is Just Another GNOME 3.0 Distro | Aug 29 23:58 |
schestowitz | They paint unity with a "Unity" brush | Aug 29 23:58 |
DaemonFC | the whole reason for changing around GNOME in the first place was to make theirs "different" | Aug 29 23:58 |
schestowitz | make it open source, but with CLA | Aug 29 23:58 |
schestowitz | And then they can say they give back [to themselves] | Aug 29 23:59 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: it's like the UNIX Wars | Aug 29 23:59 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: different is not always better | Aug 29 23:59 |
DaemonFC | anything to differentiate yourself and trap customers with your product | Aug 29 23:59 |
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schestowitz | Android vendors do that too | Aug 29 23:59 |
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