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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Special treatment gives Israeli mobsters free access to the US | Intifada http://t.co/ANsE5EGAug 29 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What I really want is adblock plus for the telly. Fuck off you advertising parasite shites.Aug 29 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @furrygirl: Nine cables from Benin list US State Department placements in the local media: http://t.co/6WWa5LI #wlfindAug 29 00:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @HomoCarnula: #wlfind prisoners are violently abused by Correctional Emergency Response Teams (CERT) in Georgia prisons. http://t.co/ ...Aug 29 00:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @HomoCarnula: Young boys unable to defend themselves are sometimes gang raped by men at weddings #India #wlfind http://t.co/iTQOC5lAug 29 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I agree. The ideal PE 2011 Polling Card http://yfrog.com/h33a9udmj #fbAug 29 02:01
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schestowitzgnAug 29 02:06
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DaemonFC"GNOME, Xfce and other Desktop Environments (DE) and Window Managers (WM) are no longer included in the official Mandriva packages. Contribution packages from the Mandriva community are available for these desktop environments however. Starting from Mandriva Desktop 2011 only KDE4 is officially supported."Aug 29 02:23
DaemonFChmmAug 29 02:23
DaemonFCso anything but KDE 4 now is entirely at your own riskAug 29 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @gbraad Thanks. What about the others? It seems like a lot of duplicated efforts will end up going to wasteAug 29 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Firefox sometimes remembers what pages you've pinned and sometimes it doesn'tAug 29 02:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] http://www.betabeat.com/2011/08/03/pseudonymity-debate-divided-between-silicon-valley-machine-versus-the-new-york-state-of-mind/ #heehawAug 29 03:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Panama: Media stifling of a 2004 election-eve bomb shell http://t.co/ODX47zq #wlfindAug 29 03:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US sought to vet current Israeli military chief for '08 visit under Senator Leahy law | Haaretz http://t.co/HQCIwXmAug 29 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US ambassador's secret Hanoi sex guide http://t.co/O72Psi4Aug 29 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New WikiLeaks Cables Show US Diplomats Push Genetically Engineered Crops Worldwide | @Truthout http://t.co/a2BltWMAug 29 04:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @x11r5: What's this newfangled dadbummed bitcoin thing all about? | old man @x11r5Aug 29 04:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Searching WikiLeaks cables for your area of knowledge. Example: Literature http://t.co/slot6KmAug 29 04:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Whole crowd-source system now has commenting and tweeting enabled http://t.co/Tah0PJqAug 29 04:32
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Kryczekhi everybodyAug 29 04:37
Kryczeknot sure if this is the right channel to ask, but since Google shows you as the one talking most about TPM I thought I'd give my question a try:Aug 29 04:38
Kryczek... if the Internet connection lets me :DAug 29 04:47
Kryczekwith tpm_sealdata and tpm_unsealdata it is possible to render access to some data impossible unless the PCRs are in the right combination, but this requires a file on disk... Does anybody know if it's possible to seal/unseal just a crypto key without having any file on disk?Aug 29 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our editor, Julian Assange, has now been detained for 265 days without charge. Do not forgive. Do not forget. http://t.co/O7xJWdmAug 29 05:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Experience. It's only a matter of time.Aug 29 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @araceletorres: Conhecem o cdtc, centro de difusão de tecnologia e conhecimento? Tem muito curso bacana# http://comunidade.cdtc.org.br/Aug 29 05:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: Julian Assange has now been detained for 265 days without charge. Do not forgive. Do not forget. http://t.co/O7xJWdmAug 29 05:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Its fair to gloat even now ! http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqnfdm2vbC1qm0qxwo1_500.jpgAug 29 05:26
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cubezzzsurely it's better just not to use TPMAug 29 05:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Experience. It's only a matter of time.Aug 29 05:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fontana @bkuhn When I were a lad in #NewYork we got #hurricane's in August all the time. Never !problematic. That's the way it was a ...Aug 29 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon serialization for Monday posted ... http://ur1.ca/4zdjb !SelfPubAug 29 06:09
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Kryczekcubeman_: why not? :)Aug 29 06:12
cubezzzthat's me on another box I think KryczekAug 29 06:17
cubezzzwell the obvious answer is that my computer could be locked against meAug 29 06:18
cubezzzalso loss of anonymityAug 29 06:18
MinceRand it might have backdoorsAug 29 06:19
DaemonFChttp://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_PageAug 29 06:22
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Kryczekcubezzz: ah yes sorry with the terrible connection here I didnt pay attention to the bad autocompletion :)Aug 29 06:27
DaemonFCGIV US DIS DAY OUR DALEE CHEEZBURGER.Aug 29 06:27
DaemonFCAND FURGIV US FOR MAKIN YU A COOKIE, BUT EATEDING IT.Aug 29 06:28
DaemonFCAND WE FURGIV WEN CATS STEEL OUR COOKIEZ.Aug 29 06:28
DaemonFCnice :)Aug 29 06:28
Kryczekcubezzz: I want to use TPM to verify the integrity of my boot files, so it's not going to lock meAug 29 06:29
Kryczekworst case scenario is a false alarmAug 29 06:29
KryczekMinceR: it might have backdoors indeed but that's not worse than the alternative, which is no integrity checkAug 29 06:30
Kryczekcubezzz: I don't see what you mean however by "loss of anonymity" ?Aug 29 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 3.1-rc4 is out http://bit.ly/paqsyS "But at the same time, I continue to be pretty happy about the state of 3.1 so far."Aug 29 06:31
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MinceRKryczek: you could use software implementation of cryptographic algorithmsAug 29 06:36
KryczekI already do, my encrypted partition is LUKSAug 29 06:36
MinceRthough i did not know you were intending to use it to verify the integrity if your boot filesAug 29 06:36
Kryczekbut exactly because it is softwareAug 29 06:36
Kryczekit can be compromised if you get your hands on my PCAug 29 06:37
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MinceRif one can get their hands on your PC, they can compromise anywayAug 29 06:37
MinceRfor example, they can install a keylogger in line with the keyboardAug 29 06:37
MinceR(hardware)Aug 29 06:37
Kryczekwhat do you mean, hardware keylogger? :)Aug 29 06:38
KryczekindeedAug 29 06:38
Kryczekbut in my tight laptop, it would be very very hardAug 29 06:38
MinceRi doubt that it would be prohibitively hardAug 29 06:38
KryczekI know it isAug 29 06:39
Kryczekbut anyway, it is way easier to compromisse software cryptoAug 29 06:40
MinceRmaybe in this case it isAug 29 06:40
MinceRthen again, what do you intend for it to do if it notices tampering? lock you out of the PC?Aug 29 06:41
Kryczekyeah I wouldnt enter my passphraseAug 29 06:41
KryczekI can always mount it on another computer, back at the office for exampleAug 29 06:42
KryczekMinceR: do you use Linux?Aug 29 06:43
KryczekI'm not saying Linux is more vulnerable to the kind of attack I'm going to mention but for the sake of clarity it is easier to explain with LinuxAug 29 06:44
MinceRi doAug 29 06:44
KryczekLinux installers now like the ones of Debian and Ubuntu make it very easy to install on an encrypted partitionAug 29 06:44
Kryczekbut you still have to have a cleartext /boot because of course the BIOS cannot mount your encrypted partitionAug 29 06:45
Kryczekso your kernel and "initial RAM disk" (initrd) are in cleartext in this /bootAug 29 06:45
KryczekI lnow many people who have installed their computer like that and think they're pretty securreAug 29 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @suhaib: لقد نسيت صباح الخير !identiverse Good morning in #ArabicAug 29 06:46
Kryczekbut it's so easy to modify the initrd to log the passphraseAug 29 06:46
MinceRthen again, if someone can tamper with your hardware, they can replace the TPM with an altered TPM :>Aug 29 06:46
Kryczekthey could indeedAug 29 06:46
Kryczekbut difficulty of thatAug 29 06:47
Kryczekvs easiness (like "finger in the nose") of editing the shell script that asks for your passphrase abd log it or mail it or whateverAug 29 06:47
Kryczeks/abd/andAug 29 06:47
Kryczekmakes the use of TPM more than justifiedAug 29 06:48
Kryczekit's like asking me for my passphrase vs setting up Inception against me :pAug 29 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Are you following @fabricatorz open hardware project, @qihardware? Thanks to @hypermodern for trickleposting news like @Milkym ...Aug 29 06:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @q4td “A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station.” — William Faul ...Aug 29 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Thank you, UPS, for being unable to keep your promises. Without comment you changed the delivery date. All plans broken.Aug 29 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kinda cool to run RHEL 6.1 desktop on ASUS EeeBox EB1501P. Nice to see full DPMI support as well. #fb http://ur1.ca/4ze0kAug 29 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Just rubbing more salt on the wound > http://nd.gd/vr #Cheap #tablets cc @ramanusAsango @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @vikgorani @yasenaAug 29 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma >http://nd.gd/vs What about this one?Aug 29 08:43
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iophkFLOSS weekly now requires iTunes and thereby locks out FOSS operating systemsAug 29 08:57
iophkhttp://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/179Aug 29 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo Community Edition on #N950; http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 #N9Aug 29 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] na Amazônia chove, mas também FASOL.org.br :-) lá vou eu! sigam-me os bons, @sigafasolAug 29 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mlinksva Should Fotopedia http://ur1.ca/4zdyi or Wired http://ur1.ca/4zdyu be using !CC NC licensed images? (or anyone, heh) cf http ...Aug 29 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kids today need a licence to tinker http://ur1.ca/4zecq rips apart Microsoft indoctrination in schools (taxpayers' expense)Aug 29 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cease & Desist letter sent to Fotopedia, abuser of Creative Commons | :Ben Metcalfe Blog .::. Size~: 26.6 KBAug 29 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons Is Not Public Domain | Compound Eye, Scientific American Blog Network .::. Size~: 98.58 KBAug 29 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: The slime of the New York Times | RT http://t.co/vGeW2qfAug 29 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Kids today need a licence to tinker http://ur1.ca/4zecq rips apart Microsoft indoctrination in schools (taxpayers' expense)Aug 29 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] /me is wondering why stock markets are so damn important for economiesAug 29 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] /recovering from busy family weekend... time to sleep now... g'nite !identiverseAug 29 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New WikiLeaks Cables Show US Diplomats Promote Genetically Engineered Crops Worldwide http://ur1.ca/4zeef #gmo #corruption //cc @gmwatchAug 29 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] H-P's One-Year Plan http://ur1.ca/4zees "Let's say you were given a year to kill Hewlett-Packard. Here's how you do it"Aug 29 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Editorial: Patent trolls get rich by killing jobs and robbing consumers http://ur1.ca/4zef8 v @zoobabAug 29 09:44
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81948727Aug 29 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 08:38:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and please provide me for some evidence that GM is bad?Aug 29 09:46
schestowitzhttp://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/01/monsanto-gmo-corn-causes-cancer-mammals.phpAug 29 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Study Finds Monsanto's GMO Corn Causes Organ Damage in Rodents : TreeHugger .::. Size~: 62.55 KBAug 29 09:46
MinceRgeekingsAug 29 09:49
Kryczekgeekings gentlemanAug 29 09:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81949652Aug 29 09:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 08:54:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz OK, one study is hardly damning, but that doesn't look good for those particular crops. It doesn't show that all #GMO is bad.Aug 29 09:58
schestowitzIt's not just one study, it was merely an example. The main effect of GMO is ownership-passing (seeds monopoly)Aug 29 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] mail about #flossweekly : "FLOSS Weekly appears to now lock out FOSS users by requiring iTunes access to listen to the MP3s"Aug 29 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[...] For example, as far as I can tell there is no way to listen on Ubuntu." I've just tried, the page crashed my browser. #flossweeklyAug 29 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bank Holiday Monday but the weather is just so appalling, so it goes to waste. At least no hurricanes (which the media hyped up)...Aug 29 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon This is how hardware packaging comes together in @qihardware the open way :) http://ping.fm/nM7ULAug 29 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Future #Firefox Features http://ur1.ca/4zeof About Firefox About http://ur1.ca/4zeoh Firefox 7.0 Beta 2 http://ur1.ca/4zeokAug 29 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon how hardware packaging comes together in @qihardware the open way :) http://ping.fm/nM7UL /cc: !milkymistAug 29 10:04
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81950076Aug 29 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Milkymist One accessories - Qi-Hardware .::. Size~: 82.04 KBAug 29 10:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Rob Connolly (robconnolly)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 09:02:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...which is not inherent in the technology, its unethical business practises. No technology is inherently bad, just people.Aug 29 10:04
schestowitzAgreedAug 29 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 6 already sees bump in traffic soon after debut http://ur1.ca/4zeorAug 29 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Oberbürgermeister der Stadt #München, Dr. Christian #Ude zu Warum weiter Freie Software !fs und #OffeneStandards? http://ur1.ca/4z9vr !fsfeAug 29 10:06
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Kryczek$ mplayer http://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp4/twit.cachefly.net/video/floss/floss0179/floss0179_h264b_864x480_500.mp4Aug 29 10:06
Kryczekworks liike a charm, dont see where the problem isAug 29 10:06
Kryczek(about FLOSS Weekly)Aug 29 10:07
schestowitzhttp://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/28/ubuntu-one-developer-evening-in-manchester-on-thursday/Aug 29 10:07
schestowitzquite close to me, but no interest in UbuntuFogAug 29 10:07
schestowitzKryczek: yes, that's the videoAug 29 10:08
schestowitzAFAIKAug 29 10:08
Kryczekah, rightAug 29 10:08
Kryczek-vo null ? :pAug 29 10:08
schestowitzin the past they had no video version, no official one anywayAug 29 10:08
schestowitzNow they have decided to host video tooAug 29 10:08
schestowitzI was on this show before when it was mp3 only and flash tooAug 29 10:08
schestowitzNot sure quite what they did now, haven't looked closely yet, but generally it looks betterAug 29 10:09
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Kryczek"To download Leo Laporte and Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes."Aug 29 10:09
Kryczekagreed that's retardedAug 29 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Complete Review of #BodhiLinux With Screenshots http://ur1.ca/4zeqa based on #ubuntuAug 29 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @Minervity: Every Company Microsoft Ever Invested In [Infographic] - http://t.co/lCxTibjAug 29 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Step 1: check. my Huxley 3D printer kit is in Munich. And now on its way to where I really am - 590 km away. Hopefully tmrw here! #reprapAug 29 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick Look at Sabayon 6 (GNOME) http://ur1.ca/4zeqr "Sabayon is a customized distribution spin based on Gentoo"Aug 29 10:18
schestowitzKryczek: where is that quote from?Aug 29 10:19
schestowitzHehe.Aug 29 10:20
schestowitzTo listen to Floss weekly you MUST NOW use FLOSSAug 29 10:20
Kryczekthe FLOSS Weekly website when you try to download audio and it redirects you to iTunes or some other content hosterAug 29 10:20
schestowitzOr...Aug 29 10:20
schestowitzproceed to buying prpprietary software if you want to listen to FLOSS WeeklyAug 29 10:20
Kryczekyeah :(Aug 29 10:20
Kryczekit's their lossbtwAug 29 10:21
Kryczekif i were listening to that podcastAug 29 10:21
schestowitzI knowAug 29 10:21
schestowitzSchwartz read thoseAug 29 10:22
schestowitzIn twitterAug 29 10:22
schestowitzLet's see how he reactsAug 29 10:22
KryczekI would script a video download and mencode that to mp3Aug 29 10:22
schestowitzThey'll have to rectify this with a fallback at the leastAug 29 10:22
Kryczekso... much bigger bw usage for them :)Aug 29 10:22
schestowitzI remember when people made oggs of the showAug 29 10:22
schestowitzBut Leo would not do it himselfAug 29 10:22
schestowitzThere would be "unofficial" channels, but they too stopped making oggs foe FLOSS WeeklyAug 29 10:22
schestowitzThey narrow down their audience, which is a shameAug 29 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What’s Wrong With This Picture? http://ur1.ca/4zer1 "GNU/Linux does make it on the desktop around the world [...] the BRIC" #cnn #applesoftAug 29 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FLOSS Weekly: "To download Leo Laporte and Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." No FLOSS-using listeners allowed?Aug 29 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @liotier: "Oh, no! Who's going to torture for us now that Arabs are getting rid of their tyrants?" - j.mp/nIRd1o via @LailaLalamiAug 29 10:23
schestowitzIt's like trying to sell negodolls in RussiaAug 29 10:23
Kryczekwhat's a negodoll? Google autocorrects to negro doll...Aug 29 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wenn die CSU die Rückkehr zu Windows in München fordert, muss Microsoft schon ziemlich sauer sein. #limux Rocks.Aug 29 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Defence bolsters search for open source software http://ur1.ca/4zeu8 #australia #fossAug 29 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thoughts about !KDE Plasma on non-Linux Systems http://ur1.ca/4zeuf would be a distraction. Apple an Microsoft shove their own down throats.Aug 29 10:31
schestowitzkyit was a typoAug 29 10:32
schestowitz*Kryczek: Aug 29 10:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108105744368410624Aug 29 10:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108105744368410624Aug 29 10:34
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TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: @schestowitz interesting article. Typical government. Education bought & paid for by corporate interests.Aug 29 10:34
schestowitzIn the US, rich families use this $500bn/year system to train the next generation into their mindset.Aug 29 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “The Changing Desktop Trends” - A Linux Perspective - !KDE vs #Gnome3 vs #Unity http://ur1.ca/4zeuqAug 29 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Changing Desktop Trends - A Linux Perspective .::. Size~: 62.29 KBAug 29 10:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/108109844703219713Aug 29 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz: I've always been able to grab Floss Weekly using gpodder - has that ability been removed? - when did that happen?Aug 29 10:35
schestowitz Don't know what has changed (someone mailed me about it). But it would be funny if FLOSS Weekly required software from patent bullyAug 29 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Demo – Raspberry Pi running Quake 3 http://ur1.ca/4zewr #GNU #Linux #RaspberryPi #QuakeAug 29 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple is now run by a patent aggressor bigger than Jobs himself (C00k is the one who suggested suing Palm). Maybe Apple wants to be Oracle.Aug 29 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxAustralia to live stream SGM http://ur1.ca/4zeyf "for the first time the organisation will be live-streaming the meeting."Aug 29 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox Community Lead Departs :/ http://ur1.ca/4zeypAug 29 10:43
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox Ships with 6000 Potential Bugs, Community Lead Departs | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 36.88 KBAug 29 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva 2011 “Hydrogen” is out! http://ur1.ca/4zeyz "As promised earlier, we are happy to announce that Mandriva 2011 is out."Aug 29 10:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva 2011 “Hydrogen” is out!  | Mandriva Blog .::. Size~: 61.42 KBAug 29 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Personally I worry more about Apple because they have user loyalty; Microsoft doesn't." @bkuhn from the !fsfAug 29 10:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/108111229888901120Aug 29 10:49
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz I´m beginning to hate LXDE. Too inmature. Too many annoyances. Customizing it is a hair-pulling exercise. :-/Aug 29 10:49
schestowitzhttp://www.goldmansachs666.com/2011/08/lets-get-politicalgovernment-should.htmlAug 29 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs Information, Comments, Opinions and Facts: Let's Get Political...Government Should UPHOLD the Law NOT Help Break It. .::. Size~: 208.32 KBAug 29 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dylan Ratigan Interviews Director Charles Ferguson - How Wall Street Took Over Government http://ur1.ca/4zf3g http://ur1.ca/4zf3j #usAug 29 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: INSIDE JOB - Dylan Ratigan Interviews Director Charles Ferguson - How Wall Street Took Over Government - Home - The Daily Bail .::. Size~: 104.3 KBAug 29 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs Information, Comments, Opinions and Facts: Let's Get Political...Government Should UPHOLD the Law NOT Help Break It. .::. Size~: 208.32 KBAug 29 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One year ago I wrote: Hewlett-Packard Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/1xagk After #MarkHurd got kicked outAug 29 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP Software run by 20-year #Microsoft veteran since last year http://ur1.ca/4zf41Aug 29 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @schestowitz: "To download Leo Laporte & Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." No FLOSS-using listeners allowed?Aug 29 11:08
Kryczekmaybe FLOSS users don't need to listen to FLOSS Weekly and should instead focus on Proprietary Software Weekly :pAug 29 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How to make an intelligent blockbuster and not alienate people http://gu.com/p/3xepqAug 29 11:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Kermode: How to make an intelligent blockbuster and not alienate people | Books | The Observer .::. Size~: 274.68 KBAug 29 11:18
schestowitzLOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Yqzk1-HQvDMAug 29 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hurricane Irene Doesn't Smell Right: False Flag Cyber Attack?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 107.12 KBAug 29 11:19
schestowitzAnd all the HAARP k00ks are at it againAug 29 11:19
schestowitzKryczek: FLOSS weekly was sponsored by Microsoft for a whileAug 29 11:20
schestowitzFod SyncAug 29 11:20
schestowitz!google techrights floss ford syncAug 29 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ford and Microsoft Distort “Open Source” | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/10/sync-cheapens-openness/Aug 29 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Audio/Video | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/audiovideo/Aug 29 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2011 June 09 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/09/Aug 29 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Links 9/6/2011: Millennius Sells GNU/Linux PCs ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/09/snapshots-in-ext4/Aug 29 11:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81954226Aug 29 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Kipngetich Ibrahim Ngeno (eebrah)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 10:06:58 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: "To download Leo Laporte & Randal Sch\u2026\u2019s FLOSS Weekly, you need to have iTunes." No FLOSS-using listeners allowed?Aug 29 11:20
Kryczeklol :)Aug 29 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/8/2011: Mandriva 2011, Raspberry Pi (Linux Board) Runs Quake 3 http://ur1.ca/4zf5x !techrightsAug 29 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 29/8/2011: Mandriva 2011, Raspberry Pi (Linux Board) Runs Quake 3 http://ur1.ca/4zf5x #techrightsAug 29 11:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/108120892965527552Aug 29 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz Does @merlyn know?Aug 29 11:39
schestowitzI don't know. I do know it's now him who's responsible for redesign, I like @merlyn  and reckon he'd say somethingAug 29 11:40
schestowitz*not himAug 29 11:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/108125054784651264Aug 29 11:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz FLOSS Weekly: "To download Leo Laporte and @merlyn FLOSS Weekly, you need to have #iTunes." No #FLOSS-using listeners allowed?Aug 29 11:41
schestowitzAFAIK the MP4...Aug 29 11:41
schestowitzWell, MPEG-LAAug 29 11:41
schestowitzSo proprietary codecs with patentsAug 29 11:41
schestowitzThat Linux cannot provided legallyAug 29 11:41
schestowitzBut I don't know what codec they use, the enclosure only provides a faint clueAug 29 11:41
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/8WpUk.jpgAug 29 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "You wanna have a fight with ME?" http://i.imgur.com/DytDI.gif #funnyAug 29 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Windows Servers and Workstations are Vulnerable” http://ur1.ca/4zfc1 #windows #microsoft #securityAug 29 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] “Windows Servers and Workstations are Vulnerable” http://ur1.ca/4zfc1Aug 29 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] George Osborne warns #taxcheats: 'I will find you & your money' http://gu.com/p/3xgx3 - why not start with the list of political donors?Aug 29 12:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: George Osborne warns tax cheats: 'I will find you and your money' | Politics | The Observer .::. Size~: 141.85 KBAug 29 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #UKriots: how do Boris Johnson's Bullingdon antics compare? http://gu.com/p/3x63eAug 29 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK riots: how do Boris Johnson's Bullingdon antics compare? | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 134.72 KBAug 29 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Current story being spun about wild cables, including from Spiegel, is significantly incorrect.Aug 29 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How did The Coalition, a political satire so preposterous it's beyond parody, ever get commissioned? http://gu.com/p/3xfk5Aug 29 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How did The Coalition, a political satire so preposterous it's beyond parody, ever get commissioned? | Ian Martin | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 240.72 KBAug 29 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks statement on the 9th month of cablegate and the release of 133,887 new cables http://t.co/VdcJ24rAug 29 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] collect.kde.org is now fully functional; chinese planet kde is live; fixed a bug in tasks widget; worked on virtual keyboard. good start!Aug 29 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] oh yeah, and three blog posts .. and yet my TODO is still far too long :)Aug 29 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.2.31-rc is out: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-August/021136.htmlAug 29 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Vidalia 0.2.14 is out: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/vidalia-0214-outAug 29 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @meanmicio Richard Stallman declares #gnuhealth a GNU official package http://bit.ly/oFMMmz !gnu_solidario !gnu #trytonAug 29 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Torbutton 1.4.1 Released: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/torbutton-141-releasedAug 29 12:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.2.31-rc is out .::. Size~: 4.88 KBAug 29 12:23
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeanMicio: Richard Stallman declares GNU Health an official package .::. Size~: 53.45 KBAug 29 12:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Rain has stopped. Time to get out of NH and back to Boston!Aug 29 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @zuargo [PLASMOIDE] DAISY: MÁS QUE UN DOCK PARA !KDE http://ur1.ca/4zffw !KDElaAug 29 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tunea tu Linux!: [Plasmoide] Daisy: mas que un dock para KDE .::. Size~: 113.36 KBAug 29 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Corporate Press Turns Against Patents But Forgets to Stress #Microsoft and #Apple Are an Integral Part of the Problem http://ur1.ca/4zfgiAug 29 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporate Press Turns Against Patents But Forgets to Stress Microsoft and Apple Are Problem http://ur1.ca/4zfgi #swpats #linux #androidAug 29 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Corporate Press Turns Against Patents But Forgets/Neglects to Stress Microsoft and Apple Are an Integral Part of the Problem | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.84 KBAug 29 12:33
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81958803Aug 29 12:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Stefan (faither)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 11:27:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz There's plenty wrong with this picture. So much in fact that one should just ignore it rather than giving it any mention at allAug 29 12:33
schestowitzindeedAug 29 12:33
schestowitzOuch Aug 29 12:34
schestowitzAbout FLOSS Weekly:Aug 29 12:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/108135278107049984Aug 29 12:34
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz the worrying thing is no error shows up anywhere so U dont notice it's not fetching until sum1 points it out cc @merlynAug 29 12:34
schestowitzSeems like there will be some hard talk there today about their formatsAug 29 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @faither indeedAug 29 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Tor 0.2.2.31-rc is out: t.co/88Gm987 | Torbutton 1.4.1 Released: t.co/1qEoBtr | Vidalia 0.2.14 is out: t.co/GWCZuIcAug 29 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Guyana sees WikiLeaks today http://t.co/2RFCFbuAug 29 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !iwikileaks was under "Denial of Service (DOS) attack during the first 36 hours." http://ur1.ca/4zfhkAug 29 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Statement on the 9 Month Anniversary of Cablegate: Release of 133,887 Cables .::. Size~: 177.68 KBAug 29 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I write this letter to commend Wikileaks founder Mr. Julian Assange in his brave role" http://ur1.ca/4zfhoAug 29 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will the guilty try to implement ways to suppress freedom of speech? : Kaieteur News .::. Size~: 29.41 KBAug 29 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 30 new revelations from around the world http://t.co/iO9Ewe5 #wlfindAug 29 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on my tests, http://www.developer.nokia.com runs Windows/Microsoft. it has just been cracked, just like Nokia (cracked by MSFT moles).Aug 29 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Developer - Your idea. Our tools. .::. Size~: 56.74 KBAug 29 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia's developer network hacked http://ur1.ca/4zfi5 tell the #Microsoft #mole #elop to move the site over to #gnu #linuxAug 29 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Nokia's developer network hacked .::. Size~: 61.07 KBAug 29 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @alafroiskiotos @comzeradd: !OpenSource Software at Walt Disney Animation Studios http://t.co/xfv6BhiAug 29 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz: Nokia's developer network hacked http://ur1.ca/4zfi5Aug 29 12:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Nokia's developer network hacked .::. Size~: 61.08 KBAug 29 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bombs to be transfered quietly to avoid allegations USG is helping Israel prepare for a strike against Iran http://t.co/Dio5c1IAug 29 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia MediaWatch: Poor research - not our choice, the journo concerned, Phil Dorling had been in hospital for an extended periodAug 29 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Why Political Liberty Depends on Software Freedom More Than Ever http://tinyurl.com/3ch5onf #gnu #freedombox #internet #moglen #linuxAug 29 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Worm spreading via RDP http://tinyurl.com/3e4xet3 #security #computer #network #windowsAug 29 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Tetris Free hits !Android Market today from Android Community by Shane McGlaun http://goo.gl/vCJsbAug 29 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] S'pore elects a new president: Tantamount to a humiliation http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/08/singapore-elects-new-president #fbAug 29 13:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Singapore elects a new president: Tantamount to a humiliation | The Economist .::. Size~: 109.61 KBAug 29 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @jwildeboer: Wenn die CSU die Rückkehr zu Windows in München fordert, muss Microsoft schon ziemlich sauer sein. #limux Rocks.Aug 29 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source is illegal? | http://t.co/o9SmHtb #gov20 #govossAug 29 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] counting the hours till UPS delivers the Huxley 3D printer kit ...Aug 29 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.1-rc4 http://lwn.net/Articles/456684/rssAug 29 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Social media used to create beautiful music. Someone should tell the politicians not to ban it... http://wmk.me/nIsX8CAug 29 14:14
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undetectablehiAug 29 14:18
undetectableis anyone hereAug 29 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[cyberkiller/@cyberkiller] !Wikileaks o socjotechnice promowania #GMO w !Polska ce http://bit.ly/qnaEI0 !ecologyAug 29 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink Social media used to create beautiful music. Someone should tell the politicians not to ban it... http://wmk.me/nIsX8CAug 29 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How WikiLeaks changed the role of journalism | SocialMedia http://t.co/f1FHwXbAug 29 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables crowd search live results: http://t.co/60O8foXAug 29 14:31
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/UlrikaHall/statuses/108098573345882113Aug 29 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr@UlrikaHall: This is scary! - US State Department Attacks Free Software on #Microsoft’s Behalf http://j.mp/pgLhgQ #in #open #sourceAug 29 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: US State Department Attacks Free Software on Microsoft’s Behalf (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.24 KBAug 29 14:40
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/isleofmandan/statuses/108084108160274432Aug 29 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr@isleofmandan: RT @wood5y Is supporting Microsoft & rubbishing #opensource official US foreign policy? http://t.co/pHeJkkTAug 29 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] (video) Excellent example of why cables must be published in full (note, NYT stopped quickly) http://t.co/4ertzrTAug 29 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note: ALL Australian cables have been in the process of release since last night. Live as soon as mirrors sync.Aug 29 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] On Slashdot's Lost Taco and Apple's Big Turnover http://tinyurl.com/3d9ck64 #linux #opensourceAug 29 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chakra 2011.09 has just been released http://chakra-project.org/Aug 29 14:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Chakra Project - Welcome .::. Size~: 7.38 KBAug 29 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mandriva 2011 released http://lwn.net/Articles/456690/rssAug 29 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux at 20: the quiet giant http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/8725363/Linux-at-20-the-quiet-giant.htmlAug 29 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Untapped: Why the developing world must treat IT as a national resource http://tinyurl.com/3epcg8l #opensourceAug 29 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why would anyone choose to store/rent music remotely and play that back w/ proprietary s/w? http://ur1.ca/4zg0o why not FOSS+local storage?Aug 29 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr PM, what’s in our food? http://ur1.ca/4zg1d #gmo #monopolyAug 29 15:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mr PM, what’s in our food? , Specials - Views - Bangalore Mirror,Bangalore Mirror .::. Size~: 99.93 KBAug 29 15:18
iophkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576535211589514334.htmlAug 29 15:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: H-P's One-Year Plan - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 181.21 KBAug 29 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] How the surveilance state protects the rich: ur1.ca/4zg2j /via @ioerrorAug 29 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How !WikiLeaks has changed the role of #journalism http://ur1.ca/4zg2uAug 29 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How WikiLeaks has changed the role of journalism .::. Size~: 76.38 KBAug 29 15:26
schestowitziophk1: I linked to it earlierAug 29 15:27
schestowitzalso see  http://ur1.ca/4zf41Aug 29 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Of malware, hot steam, privacy, using one's brain and paedoparanoia: http://rys.io/en/24Aug 29 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux and the financial crisis http://linux-news.org/?p=2950 "And Linux is one of their favorite tools."Aug 29 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with #Linux http://tinyurl.com/3julf29Aug 29 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? MS authorized this ad? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewedqvSWaI&feature=youtu.be #fbAug 29 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux and the financial crisis .::. Size~: 31.63 KBAug 29 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.9 KBAug 29 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Don't get stuck in the IT past       - YouTube .::. Size~: 84.57 KBAug 29 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @noyesk Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with #Linux http://tinyurl.com/3julf29Aug 29 15:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.9 KBAug 29 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Australia failed Solomons: More than a billion Australian dollars failed to build pol... | SMH http://t.co/9qti1LcAug 29 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux: First Impressions http://ur1.ca/4zg4f "freedom of choice for applications and profiles"Aug 29 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Linux 2011 Officially Released, Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/4zg52 Mandriva 2011 is here! http://ur1.ca/4zg53Aug 29 15:43
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Mandriva 2011 is here! .::. Size~: 97.3 KBAug 29 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[whirli/@whirli] Why is it that the groups !opl and !wl, who champion transparency, have this confusing relationship?Aug 29 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] LibreOffice hackfest in Munich, Sept 2-4: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest2011Aug 29 15:44
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iophkIs Lodsys just a shell run by IV ?Aug 29 15:48
iophkWhat is it?Aug 29 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange, has now been detained for 265 days without charge. http://t.co/O7xJWdmAug 29 15:49
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schestowitziophk: hard to proveAug 29 15:50
schestowitzlisten to the NPR castAug 29 15:50
iophkWhat is the URL for the NPR cast?Aug 29 15:50
schestowitzThey share address with satellites of IV Aug 29 15:50
schestowitzThey also use IV patentsAug 29 15:50
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81974032Aug 29 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:43:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz odd, when I first heard about wikileaks, I thought, "Isn't this what journalists are doing already?".  Guess I was naive.Aug 29 15:50
schestowitz!google npr when patent ventures Aug 29 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Intellectual Ventures And The War Over Software Patents : Planet ... | http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/26/138576167/when-patents-attackAug 29 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Intellectual Ventures, Software Patents, NPR and Innovation Games | http://innovationgames.com/2011/07/intellectual-ventures-software-patents-npr-and-innovation-games/Aug 29 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Patent trolls, Intellectual Ventures, and innovation seen by NPR | http://marclijour.amplify.com/2011/07/23/patent-trolls-intellectual-ventures-and-innovation-seen-by-npr/Aug 29 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Software Patent Troll War - NPR Reports from the Battle Front ... | http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/28/the-software-patent-troll-warAug 29 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Myth Of Cheap !Linux Users http://is.gd/QGzf3x #fbAug 29 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Myth Of Cheap Linux Users | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 28.73 KBAug 29 15:51
iophk"When Patents Attack"Aug 29 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US made enormous concession in talks on Czech missile shield http://t.co/eXbrgyWAug 29 15:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/whats_happened_bizarre_cathedralAug 29 15:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's happened to the Bizarre Cathedral? .::. Size~: 31.19 KBAug 29 15:53
schestowitziophk: they have had at least 3 articles and maybe episodes on this subjectAug 29 15:54
schestowitzIt has become a mainstream debateAug 29 15:54
schestowitzHowever, right now they go after trollsAug 29 15:54
schestowitzThat's a distractionAug 29 15:54
schestowitzThe corporate media, like CNN, satill bats for the Mac vs PC (MSFT(US)+APPL(US)) delusionAug 29 15:55
iophkIt can lead to going after the sw patents themselvesAug 29 15:55
schestowitzSo they don't point out how the corporations this media runs for actually make themselves a private venture with the patrnt systeAug 29 15:55
schestowitzGoogle is lucky to have become rich enough fast enough to buy some patents and join The ClubAug 29 15:55
schestowitzIt bought an extry ticket for almost 20 billionAug 29 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] DDB excited to get together with former head of German intelligence. http://t.co/DqXuYP3Aug 29 15:56
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schestowitzLOLAug 29 15:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81974403Aug 29 15:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:48:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Re. qualifications, I have been invited by a top-notch university and research institute to give a talk in the 2nd half of...Aug 29 15:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81974494Aug 29 15:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:49:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...October on "IP litigation and licensing in the mobile devices industry" in front of doctoral students. Will announce...Aug 29 15:56
schestowitzLOLAug 29 15:56
schestowitzI spoke about his professional background and educationAug 29 15:57
schestowitzHe had none in the areaAug 29 15:57
schestowitzShould I feed him?Aug 29 15:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81974572Aug 29 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 14:50:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...the name of the involved institutions *after* delivering my talk there. They're fine with my qualifications, it seems.Aug 29 15:57
schestowitzI won't feed him..Aug 29 15:57
schestowitzAnd notice where he postsAug 29 15:57
schestowitzidenticaAug 29 15:57
schestowitzSo that people in twitter don't see his criticisAug 29 15:57
iophkDon't feed the trollsAug 29 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Heute geschlossen" - wie ein Modellbaushop in Detmold den Nachmittag meiner Kinder zerstört. #failAug 29 15:58
schestowitzHe has 16 followers in identicaAug 29 15:58
schestowitziophk: right, I won't...Aug 29 15:58
schestowitzHe tries to discourage those who expose himAug 29 15:58
schestowitzThis time he did a poor job, he didn't actually refute what I saidAug 29 15:58
schestowitzHe has no qualificationsAug 29 15:59
schestowitzso he divergesAug 29 15:59
schestowitz"I don't have kids, but I have nephews.."Aug 29 15:59
iophkworse than EnderleAug 29 15:59
schestowitzSo I am a father"Aug 29 15:59
schestowitzHe's mates with EnderleAug 29 15:59
schestowitzIn Twitter at least..Aug 29 16:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/socialarchive/status/108189909432532992Aug 29 16:00
TechrightsBot-tr@socialarchive: @schestowitz ...October on "IP litigation and licensing in the mobile devices industry" in front of doctoral... http://t.co/EdrT0wYAug 29 16:00
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schestowitzSomeone it reaches twitterAug 29 16:01
schestowitzWhen I was 22 I gave a lecture to professors in London, so?Aug 29 16:01
schestowitzThis is Florian for you..Aug 29 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pfizer threatens to withdraw drugs from Philippine market if price controls are imposed http://t.co/u5rltKi #wlfindAug 29 16:01
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schestowitzAnd Groklaw pwn3d him for episodes like theseAug 29 16:01
schestowitzWhere he goes egomanicsAug 29 16:01
schestowitz*maniacAug 29 16:01
iophkGroklaw does a good job of refuting his noise.Aug 29 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @jsmith: Just a reminder to vote for your favorites in the Linux Journal Reader's Choice survey at ur1.ca/4xm8cAug 29 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Feds Raid #Gibson; Musicians Now Worried The Gov't Will Take Their Guitars Away http://is.gd/2KzWIHAug 29 16:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds Raid Gibson; Musicians Now Worried The Gov't Will Take Their Guitars Away | Techdirt .::. Size~: 93.86 KBAug 29 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What's your default? | http://red.ht/rtfkA2 #hackmanagement #opennessAug 29 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Nestle was buying Mugabe farm milk in unmarked tanker - prev. owner forced to sell farm cheap http://t.co/tC4aUjC via @treisiroonAug 29 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Boards with an apple-shaped logo on them to facilitate #Linux despite anti-features http://ur1.ca/4zg87Aug 29 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Catholic clergy 'abused children for decades in County Donegal' http://gu.com/p/3xgah - is anyone surprised?Aug 29 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Diplomatic cables claim Australia has failed to stabilise 'fragile' Solomons http://ur1.ca/4zg8e !wikileaks breaks newsAug 29 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Pfizer threatens to withdraw drugs from Philippine market if price controls are imposed http://t.co/u5rltKi #wlfindAug 29 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] U.S. Amb: eroded trust in NZ thereby threatening intelligence cooperation response: bully tactics http://t.co/KNUeZWI #wlfindAug 29 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks U.S. Amb: "eroded trust in NZ thereby threatening intelligence cooperation" response: "bully tactics" http://t.co/KNUeZWIAug 29 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.1-rc4 http://ur1.ca/4zg8wAug 29 16:14
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ender_2600Scam alert: Casino NiagraAug 29 16:18
ender_2600Casino Niagra is owned by Fallsview Casino ResortAug 29 16:18
ender_2600Fallsview Casino Resort is owned by the Government of Ontario, via the Ontario Lottery and Gaming CorporationAug 29 16:18
ender_2600It is also owned by Falls Management CompanyAug 29 16:19
ender_2600here is what happensAug 29 16:19
ender_2600you go there, they require a form of ID with a tracking chipAug 29 16:19
ender_2600if you win and you're not authorized, they track you and send cops after youAug 29 16:19
ender_2600those cops give you a bullshit ticket for anything they can findAug 29 16:20
ender_2600then they also alert the ontario 'dmv' to add that your car needs an emissions check tooAug 29 16:20
ender_2600since its all connected there is no way that such a coincidence can occur without the government hand in itAug 29 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware launches cloud-packaged Postgres (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/pWVrdsAug 29 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft wants TPC-E metric to measure database availability (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/qe2XtJAug 29 16:21
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ender_2600the same company that controls your driving records also controls the cops and owns the casinoAug 29 16:21
ender_2600you win $300 by chance, then have to pay a ticket, get your car re-certified and purchase your next set of stickersAug 29 16:23
ender_2600they won't even let you in without RFID implanted IDAug 29 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The NYC subway got its mojo back more quickly than the Amtrak northeast corridor (NYTimes) http://nyti.ms/r0Bw2zAug 29 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] DuckDuckGo is officially awesome: using the !doi bang and it takes you straight to the paper http://duckduckgo.com/bang.html !scienceAug 29 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In Australia, Apple's lawyers decide who can sell which tablet. #justayinAug 29 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'll be speaking at Ignite Warsaw on Sept 5th. http://www.ignitewarsaw.org/Aug 29 16:33
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ender_2600another idiot (thistleweb) accusing me of nymshifting on identicaAug 29 16:34
ender_2600@qubitarkhive is my sites nameAug 29 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Indian Muslim: a WikiLeaks perspective http://t.co/oHqt0RSAug 29 16:36
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81977173Aug 29 16:37
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TechrightsBot-tr@Adriaan de Groot (adridg)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 15:21:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you are confused. Plasma on non-linux has very little to do with win or osx and much more with the bsds and solaris.Aug 29 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trolling alert: Microsoft booster Gavin Clarke/The Register is provoking #Linux proponents, spinning #Android as a Bad Thing. #OrlowskiismAug 29 16:38
schestowitzI remember some win7 prototyping with plasma :-) (like touchscreen demos)Aug 29 16:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108197251343585280Aug 29 16:38
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz Well it may be useful when I'm on my laptop away from the massive storage of my desktop. shame abt upper limit of 22k tracksAug 29 16:38
schestowitzStorage these days (e.g. SD cards) by far outweighs audio filesAug 29 16:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108197406427975681Aug 29 16:39
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz I've mostly been using Last.fm to listen while away from homeAug 29 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join EFF for "Patent Trolls and You: EFF Virtual Boot Camp for App Developers" https://eff.org/r.5BbAug 29 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] [via @ABSCBNNews] WikiLeaks cable: Cebuanos tolerated death squads? http://t.co/qcHafoEAug 29 16:41
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AdmFubar_hi alllAug 29 16:43
AdmFubar_found this thought it might be of interestAug 29 16:43
AdmFubar_http://feeds.cio.com/~r/cio/feed/articles/~3/TqQT9XyXO4Q/Microsoft_Sues_to_Prevent_Motorola_Sales_in_U.S.Aug 29 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FUD trend to watch out for (seen coming from longtime anti-Linux trolls): Android is hostile towards Linux, thus Linux loses in mobile. #fudAug 29 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Untapped: Why the developing world must treat IT as a national resource http://ur1.ca/4zgcx reason for for #freesoftware in #egovAug 29 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Untapped: Why the developing world must treat IT as a national resource — Cloud Computing News .::. Size~: 89.54 KBAug 29 16:46
iophk1IIRC Microsoft and Facebook used the same marketing company to smear Google.   Where is a good description or link?Aug 29 16:46
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schestowitzyesAug 29 16:48
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schestowitzGermany's press covered this recentlyAug 29 16:48
iophk1In English?Aug 29 16:48
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schestowitznoAug 29 16:50
iophkWhat's a good link in English?  I can't remember the name right now.Aug 29 16:50
schestowitz!google techrights  Burson-MarstellerAug 29 16:51
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Caught Paying Burson-Marsteller to Smear ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/08/burson-marsteller-busted/Aug 29 16:51
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Daemonisation of Google in the Press Orchestrated by ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/10/sock-puppets-of-microsoft/Aug 29 16:51
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ES: Facebook Actualmente Propiedad Parcial de ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/15/facebook-astroturfing_es/Aug 29 16:51
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - News Reporters Bribed to Spread Google FUD | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/11/jim-goldman-propaganda/Aug 29 16:51
schestowitzhttp://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000850.htmlAug 29 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lauren Weinstein's Blog: Attempt to Involve Me in Anti-Google "Astroturf Lies" PR Campaign .::. Size~: 12.03 KBAug 29 16:51
iophkthanksAug 29 16:52
schestowitzsome people working for corproate media participatedAug 29 16:53
schestowitzThey were bribed for itAug 29 16:54
schestowitzIt's like a Gates StrategyAug 29 16:54
ender_2600all microsoft would have to do to really demonize google is to tell people they are the sameAug 29 16:54
ender_2600LOLAug 29 16:54
schestowitzBut from Microsoft, bullying and corrupting journalismAug 29 16:54
schestowitzender_2600: LOLAug 29 16:54
iophkWas that the same company that Facebook used?Aug 29 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Defence conducts #OpenOffice .org trial http://ur1.ca/4zgd9 #australia #egovAug 29 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @bo9lo7 This is how to treat a Mac http://mrte.ch/dqz #mac #appleAug 29 16:54
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schestowitzit's not a companyAug 29 16:54
schestowitzThey don't make anythingAug 29 16:54
schestowitzI'd call it a gangAug 29 16:55
schestowitzShills joined together don't make up a companyAug 29 16:55
iophkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/12/facebook-pr-firm-googleAug 29 16:56
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iophkhttp://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/facebook-admits-to-antigoogle-smear-campaign-20110513-1el5t.htmlAug 29 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook admits to anti-Google smear campaign .::. Size~: 130.15 KBAug 29 16:56
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/29/citrix_cloud_com_update/Aug 29 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cloud.com goes open source • The Register .::. Size~: 24.93 KBAug 29 16:58
schestowitzMore Microsoft promotion as "open"Aug 29 16:58
schestowitz"Open cloud"Aug 29 16:58
schestowitzLike monkey putting on fur"Aug 29 16:58
schestowitzOr naked man getting nakedAug 29 16:58
schestowitzLOLAug 29 16:58
schestowitzWhat a PR nonsenseAug 29 16:58
schestowitzLike Faceboom and their 'open source datacentreAug 29 16:59
schestowitzjust openwashingAug 29 16:59
schestowitz"Microsoft love imminent"Aug 29 16:59
iophk.Aug 29 17:00
schestowitzNETAug 29 17:00
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schestowitzbblAug 29 17:02
iophkbbl?Aug 29 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] How to upgrade memory in your Mac http://youtu.be/NCybRFMW7-M #youtubeAug 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekkAug 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekk Who were crude Maori stereotypes ;)Aug 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #seriousbusiness If I Had a Rocket Launcher - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Had_a_Rocket_LauncherAug 29 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can You Guess Which Beloved Retro Game Just Landed on !Android? ⚫ by Aaron Tilton http://goo.gl/ZOizvAug 29 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can You Guess Which Beloved Retro Game Just Landed on Android? - AndroidPIT .::. Size~: 99.97 KBAug 29 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Finally! Google Opt-Out! ur1.ca/4zggpAug 29 17:09
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/BB7bE.jpgAug 29 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Finally! Google Opt-Out! ur1.ca/4zggp !googlefreeAug 29 17:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108204255327948800Aug 29 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz maybe...when i can get a 500GB SD card...Aug 29 17:11
schestowitzgetting this size/volume of a 'cloud' would be expensiveAug 29 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 looking back that dent makes no sense, cut off the last part. I think I was saying that there may be black stormtroopersAug 29 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Collaboration [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/5u2ZZ.jpgAug 29 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 going on what we knew at the time ;)Aug 29 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Our conference room feels a little empty now that all the !dbd bricks have been sent to #Nintendo.Aug 29 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekk I agree, but there were no visibly non-white characters until Lando...unless we count Chewbacca ;)Aug 29 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Diamond aircraft used for civilian surveillance, sold to China,US,Saudi Arabia #wlfind http://t.co/uPiscz9 via @nicshaAug 29 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 we can assume that chewie is white, there's no reason for melatonin to be present if the skin is never exposed to sunAug 29 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Perfect Tools for the Linux Geek's Blog ⚫ GUILLERMO GARRON http://ping.fm/lBcvNAug 29 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 on a separate note, lando has to be the most interesting char. in the series if only b/c he owns an entire planetAug 29 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @evgenymorozov: A critique of Zizek's critique of WikiLeaks http://t.co/6eUqDmO ($)Aug 29 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @evgenymorozov: How did a brochure for a German company advertising a program for intercepting emails make it to Gaddafi's bunker? ...Aug 29 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An LLVM backend for Sparse http://lwn.net/Articles/456709/rssAug 29 17:46
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iophkhttp://andrewoneverything.com/the-overlearning-the-game-problemAug 29 17:53
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iophk"Long gone is the original purpose of patents"Aug 29 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Coverage of the #TAL #PlayOgg petition, and a round-up of #patents news: http://ur1.ca/4za7mAug 29 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Honduran anti-coup activist found decapitated, country's FBI detained him earlier that day http://t.co/xHbtCD4 #wlfindAug 29 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality God dammit I want an enraged apeAug 29 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The !Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 • by Luis http://ping.fm/Wi1hhAug 29 18:11
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SnitHey... my ban is lifted?  When did that happen?Aug 29 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I feel honoured to be in this little movie together with the real stars! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhYMRtqvMg8Aug 29 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] #lovethis RT @JScottEdwards: At grocery store wearing @linuxfoundation T-shirt. Guy behind me says "I just bought a computer with Linux."Aug 29 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] RT @johnsu01 Coverage of the #TAL #PlayOgg petition, and a round-up of #patents news: http://ur1.ca/4za7mAug 29 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Holy crap. My Drug Dealer quote is in the movie. IAug 29 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @johnsu01 Coverage of the #TAL #PlayOgg petition, and a round-up of #patents news: http://ur1.ca/4za7mAug 29 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why do we need the word "advertorial" ? It's just an advertAug 29 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/456710/rssAug 29 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Five Good Reasons to Try Mandriva Linux 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3f7ahxf #linux #opensourceAug 29 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] a distro that has a shell running on top of bash that essentially provides a better interface for a lot of opsAug 29 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's REAL hard to find & report spam when even typing in a keyword you KNOW is used to search, returns nothing #Identica @supportAug 29 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] think I just had a brilliant idea. a layer over bash that lets you be more productiveAug 29 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] so say you're working in bash, and you want a program for ail, but you don't know what's installed. Press Super and it opens up a menuAug 29 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] like a vertical version of the gnome menu(Applications/Places/System) and separated from thereAug 29 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] places will open in $MENUNAME_FM, so you can set it to mc, emacs dired, etc.Aug 29 19:13
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108210364444971009?iid=am-82952056813146343362020419&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 29 19:15
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz well 128GB SD cards are still too expensive and I only have 12GB in my mp3 player…Aug 29 19:15
schestowitziophk: thanks for the linkAug 29 19:15
schestowitzwe need to amass examples of names of peoplike like O'Reilly and Cuban who demand patent reformAug 29 19:17
schestowitzGoogle helped in a way tooAug 29 19:17
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108213831808978944?iid=am-212939495113146351628568821&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 29 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz if i could I'd use my own server + Subsonic + port forwardingAug 29 19:18
schestowitzThat's always a possibility, it has other advantages tooAug 29 19:18
schestowitziophk: https://twitter.com/merlyn/status/108234508964335616Aug 29 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr@merlyn: @schestowitz Are you nuts? There's a link there for "subscribe to audio" and "subscribe to video" and "listen to mp3" and "watch mp4"Aug 29 19:19
schestowitzIs this true?Aug 29 19:19
schestowitzLike I said at the start, this is something sent me by mail. I tried verifying 3 times, but in all three the page crashed my browserAug 29 19:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/108221227507777536Aug 29 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr@wikileaks: Honduran anti-coup activist found decapitated, country's FBI detained him earlier that day http://t.co/xHbtCD4 #wlfindAug 29 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] watching a peaceful summer sunset over the swiss countryside... gorgeous... making some food :)Aug 29 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ Jugglenaut Warn me when they are anti-intellectual-property, and we'll form a posse and put a stop to it. You got your six-shooter?Aug 29 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@Jugglenaut @BytePatent well, aren't you quite the scary bunch? We love you too. :-) //cc @zoobabAug 29 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @jfaawaylo: Post Citrix Acquisition, Cloud.com’s CloudStack Goes 100% !OpenSource http://t.co/2Dj1RFgAug 29 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @ianhuckabee: Writers try to save 'Notting Hill' bookshop http://t.co/fftDKEcAug 29 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 240 Wikileaks cables on pharmaceutical data exclusivity http://keionline.org/node/1210 #bigpharma #corruption !wikileaksAug 29 19:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/merlyn/status/108242985719840769Aug 29 19:30
TechrightsBot-tr@merlyn: @schestowitz Looks like they're working on the website while it's live. Mistake. I'm sure it'll get resolved.Aug 29 19:30
schestowitzThanks, that didn't come out right after I had merely pasted an E-mail sent to me.Aug 29 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tracyrreed: Never used a desktop publishing program before but pretty impressed with Scribus. Easier to use than expected..Aug 29 19:31
schestowitziophk: ^^Aug 29 19:31
schestowitzThey'll sort it outAug 29 19:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BytePatent/status/108244294791462912Aug 29 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr@BytePatent: @schestowitz - Huh? I was complaining about the GOP being anti-science (not a stretch) @Jugglenaut brought up guns! @zoobabAug 29 19:31
schestowitzOh, I lost the context. Best wishes anyway...Aug 29 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] New Python/Django-based TorStatus. Want to help out? Read more here: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-pythondjango-based-torstatusAug 29 19:33
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schestowitzHi, DaemonFCAug 29 19:34
DaemonFChello Aug 29 19:34
schestowitzMy Intel driver coredumped again todayAug 29 19:35
*DaemonFC is watching a particularly annoying bugAug 29 19:35
DaemonFChttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/824842Aug 29 19:35
schestowitzIt's ythe 'free' driverAug 29 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug #824842 in unity: “Click on 'More Apps' et al closes the dash” .::. Size~: 60.9 KBAug 29 19:35
DaemonFCI'm not that familiar with IntelAug 29 19:35
schestowitzAt least I set up this server to boot up quickly and reopen everythingAug 29 19:35
DaemonFCmy systems only use radeonAug 29 19:35
schestowitzokAug 29 19:36
DaemonFCall the serious bugs in radeon, at least for my hardware, have been fixed for monthsAug 29 19:36
schestowitzbrbAug 29 19:36
schestowitzI want to read some news, then I need to do some work :/Aug 29 19:36
schestowitzIt's bank holiday hereAug 29 19:36
schestowitzI went to the gym and it was closed at 6pm (!!!)Aug 29 19:36
schestowitzWhich is unusualAug 29 19:36
DaemonFCthere's quite a few of those hereAug 29 19:36
schestowitzI ended up running around the river insteadAug 29 19:36
DaemonFCpiss everyone off because they still have to work but the banks and post offices are closedAug 29 19:37
schestowitzbamnk holiday....Aug 29 19:37
schestowitzFor the bankersAug 29 19:37
schestowitzThey get the holidayAug 29 19:37
DaemonFCwhen I'm elected to whatever, I will push to repeal themAug 29 19:37
DaemonFC:)Aug 29 19:37
schestowitzWe get eviction notices ;)Aug 29 19:37
schestowitzday to pray foe the bankers :-)Aug 29 19:37
DaemonFCcan't get mail because it's.....Martin Luther King DayAug 29 19:37
DaemonFCwell shit, now it's Presidents DayAug 29 19:38
DaemonFCand before you know it, it will be Columbus Day Aug 29 19:38
DaemonFCthey also get Veterans Day offAug 29 19:39
DaemonFCwhich is stupid just because they're bankers and postal workersAug 29 19:39
DaemonFCthen if one of them falls on a Sunday, then the bankers take Monday off and the postal workers take SaturdayAug 29 19:40
DaemonFC:)Aug 29 19:40
DaemonFCsorry you can't cash your paycheck, it's Arbor Day and we're taking a paid day off with federal bailout moneyAug 29 19:41
DaemonFCB-)Aug 29 19:41
DaemonFCdon't worry, jono will sort this outAug 29 19:42
DaemonFChe's papered over bigger messes than thisAug 29 19:42
DaemonFCyou know schestowitz, it would be awesome if qtwebkit could be sorted outAug 29 19:44
DaemonFCI have a hunch that any distribution that ships KDE 4.7 will ship the defective version of qtwebkit that crashes when flash is loadedAug 29 19:45
DaemonFC:)Aug 29 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 240 WikiLeaks cables of big pharma exclusivity deals http://t.co/gTV9vjRAug 29 19:46
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DaemonFCthe quality of QT seems to be deteriorating Aug 29 19:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: how so?Aug 29 19:48
DaemonFCNokia can no longer be trusted to maintain itAug 29 19:48
schestowitzkonq works well for me nowAug 29 19:48
schestowitzI use firefox only in rare casesAug 29 19:48
DaemonFCkhtml works as well as it ever hasAug 29 19:48
DaemonFCbut distributions like Kubuntu are promoting rekonqAug 29 19:49
schestowitznokia offloaded itAug 29 19:49
schestowitzI ran back to old ffAug 29 19:49
schestowitz3.6Aug 29 19:49
schestowitzIran back :-)Aug 29 19:49
schestowitzto I ranAug 29 19:49
schestowitz3.6 and iceweasel 3.5 on the debian boxAug 29 19:50
DaemonFCI have Firefox 7, also known as Firefox 4, release 4Aug 29 19:50
DaemonFC;)Aug 29 19:50
schestowitzNewer versions made me lose ... hmmm........ ... maybe over 10 hours in totalAug 29 19:50
schestowitzover the course of 2-3 monthsAug 29 19:50
schestowitzI never go back thereAug 29 19:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: :-)Aug 29 19:50
DaemonFCthe most obvious change in Firefox releases now is the version number gets bumped with no visible improvementsAug 29 19:50
schestowitzI maDE A habitAug 29 19:51
schestowitzFoing to hel->aboutAug 29 19:51
schestowitzto see version numberAug 29 19:51
DaemonFCand all your extensions bail because they aren't marked compatible Aug 29 19:51
schestowitzIt's the only way to knowAug 29 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @mikkohypponen: Forged SSL certicate for google.com/GMail reported by @hkashfi: http://t.co/vcmRLFY (and it's not from Comodo this ti ...Aug 29 19:51
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schestowitzI used to get updates from ppa and universeAug 29 19:51
schestowitzconflicting onesAug 29 19:51
schestowitzNightmareAug 29 19:51
schestowitzyes, extensionsAug 29 19:51
schestowitzThat's why Iran backAug 29 19:51
schestowitzAnd they all work againAug 29 19:51
schestowitzit's like a journey back in timeAug 29 19:51
schestowitzWish I never tried to be 'ahead'Aug 29 19:52
DaemonFCI use the extension compatibility reporter extension :PAug 29 19:52
schestowitzI now stay with what works and is not vulnerableAug 29 19:52
DaemonFCit overrides all the compatibility markings and forces them to work anywayAug 29 19:52
schestowitzuntil I have to move forwardAug 29 19:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: but they changed the plugins systemAug 29 19:52
schestowitzNow it's like a web pageAug 29 19:52
schestowitzyuck!Aug 29 19:52
schestowitzLike in chromeAug 29 19:52
DaemonFCevery incompatible extension I've overridden works anywayAug 29 19:53
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/9GJ4j.pngAug 29 19:53
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeAug 29 19:53
DaemonFCa lot of them simply don't work because the Firefox version number has changedAug 29 19:53
DaemonFCnot because they are incompatibleAug 29 19:53
schestowitzI knowAug 29 19:54
DaemonFCI'm sure there's the odd extension or two out there that really are brokenAug 29 19:54
DaemonFCbut I don't use anyAug 29 19:54
schestowitzThey have to re-release for version bumpAug 29 19:54
schestowitzThat's a problemAug 29 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Do not remove this seal" [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/Pn2RP.jpgAug 29 19:54
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schestowitzdiff new.tar old.tar > chanlog Aug 29 19:54
DaemonFCschestowitz: 6 week releases with no guaranteed extension API compatibility Aug 29 19:55
DaemonFCthere's no way that won't cause hell in one way or anotherAug 29 19:55
schestowitz'Ell! yeahAug 29 19:55
DaemonFCif anything, overriding the compatibility checker and finding that your extension works is just luckAug 29 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] China building 50 nuclear power plants by 2020 using 60s era technology. Cable shows US works as lobbyist for GE: http://t.co/XED4UKCAug 29 19:56
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DaemonFCMozilla has said that eventually they jsut won't display a version number at allAug 29 19:56
DaemonFCand the only thing it will tell you is if you're up to date or notAug 29 19:56
DaemonFCwhich is ridiculousAug 29 19:56
schestowitzwhat do you use as primary?Aug 29 19:57
DaemonFCit will still have an internal version number it just won't display it to you unless you use about:supportAug 29 19:57
DaemonFCFirefox stillAug 29 19:57
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/08/29/wintel-tries-to-restore-former-glory-ultrabooks/Aug 29 19:57
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DaemonFCit has problems but possible replacements have all tended to fail or annoy me moreAug 29 19:57
schestowitzLMAOAug 29 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: China building 50 nuclear power plants by 2020 using 60s era... Cable shows US works as lobbyist for GE: http://t.co/XED4UKCAug 29 19:58
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DaemonFCFirefox 7's memory usage is as bad as everAug 29 19:59
schestowitzThey fix itAug 29 19:59
DaemonFCI can't tell how they came to the conclusion that it uses 30-50% lessAug 29 19:59
cubezzzFirefox 7?Aug 29 19:59
schestowitz!google firefox 7 fix mmemoryAug 29 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Firefox 7 Patch Tackles Memory Bloat with Impressive Results ... | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-7-Patch-Tackles-Memory-Bloat-with-Impressive-Results-210039.shtmlAug 29 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Firefox 7 Beta To Slash Memory Usage « Linear Fix | http://linearfix.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/firefox-7-beta-to-slash-memory-usage/Aug 29 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - New Firefox 7 Aurora Build Promises To Fix Memory Leak Issues ... | http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/New-Firefox-7-Aurora-Build-Promises-Fix-Memory-Leak-IssuesAug 29 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Fixes to memory footprint land in Firefox 7 | ExtremeTech | http://www.extremetech.com/internet/88998-fixes-to-memory-footprint-land-in-firefox-7Aug 29 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard ♻ @PoliceStateUK1 in 10 Scottish adult males are on #DNA database http://s.coop/50j6 #Scotland #DatabaseStateAug 29 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Revealed: the secrets of Scotland’s dna database -         Herald Scotland    |       News    |       Home News .::. Size~: 11.85 KBAug 29 19:59
cubezzzI'm still using 3.somethingAug 29 19:59
schestowitzsame hereAug 29 20:00
schestowitzon everythingAug 29 20:00
schestowitz4 is when things started to go a little less predictableAug 29 20:00
cubezzzare they playing around with version numbers?Aug 29 20:00
schestowitzesp. pluginsAug 29 20:00
DaemonFCthat will only be supported for so longAug 29 20:00
schestowitzcubezzz: yesAug 29 20:00
schestowitzPlaying marketingAug 29 20:00
DaemonFCpenis envy of ChromeAug 29 20:01
schestowitznext thing they'll say Firefox has "ultimate edition" for 99.99% with guaranteed results, second sample absolutely free, full refund within 30 daysAug 29 20:01
schestowitzThey're marketing like idiotsAug 29 20:01
DaemonFCthey're already talking about an Enterprise Edition of FirefoxAug 29 20:01
schestowitzLinux too is doing thisAug 29 20:01
schestowitz3.1 soonAug 29 20:01
schestowitzrc4 todayAug 29 20:01
schestowitzAndroid less soAug 29 20:01
DaemonFCsince their versioning scared companies away and their initial reply was "Fuck off, we don't want you anyway"Aug 29 20:01
schestowitz1.2, 1.5... 3.0Aug 29 20:02
DaemonFCfollowed by backtracking Aug 29 20:02
schestowitznoAug 29 20:02
schestowitzThey backtracked ont he backtrackingAug 29 20:02
schestowitzMaybe you hadn't seen thatAug 29 20:02
DaemonFCtheir waffling changes dailyAug 29 20:02
DaemonFCso what is their current stated position? :)Aug 29 20:02
schestowitzI think they have inner conflicts about itAug 29 20:02
schestowitzTheir community manager has justq uitAug 29 20:02
schestowitz read about it todauAug 29 20:02
schestowitzThey have many blogs all over the placeAug 29 20:03
schestowitznot subsites of mozilla.comAug 29 20:03
schestowitzSo the messages can contradict one anotherAug 29 20:03
DaemonFCmaybe they can hire jono, his first post will be about the addon incompatibility being a feature to weed out the weekAug 29 20:03
schestowitzbrbAug 29 20:03
DaemonFC*weakAug 29 20:03
schestowitzOpenRespeK'Aug 29 20:03
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DaemonFCfollowed by moving the tab menu to the left with no way to fix itAug 29 20:04
schestowitzJono the BaconWranglerAug 29 20:04
DaemonFCand insulting anyone that wants toAug 29 20:04
schestowitz:-) Like Lizard WranglerAug 29 20:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: SteveofLinux likes it thereAug 29 20:04
schestowitzSteveofLinux is not 40 yetAug 29 20:05
schestowitzSteveofLinux has no cancer, either. He'll outlive the other StsvesAug 29 20:05
schestowitzSo will LinuxAug 29 20:05
DaemonFChe's also not morbidly obese and sweaty Aug 29 20:05
schestowitzUnity for Eternity.Aug 29 20:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: Steve the SweatyB is hardly visible anymoreAug 29 20:06
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schestowitzCorrect me if I'm wrong, but MSFT in general is not spoken about much anymoreAug 29 20:06
schestowitzAnd then he said he loves neighborleeAug 29 20:06
schestowitzneighborlee: We were just talking about your dog. He would run Canonical better than the current team.Aug 29 20:07
neighborleelolAug 29 20:07
neighborleeliar!Aug 29 20:07
neighborleehaAug 29 20:07
schestowitzBTWAug 29 20:07
neighborleeyes..Aug 29 20:07
schestowitzI saw a mono article todayAug 29 20:07
schestowitzWhich was strangeAug 29 20:07
neighborleeim sick of mono Aug 29 20:07
schestowitzIt's like when someone mentioned atariAug 29 20:07
DaemonFChttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219555/New_Windows_worm_spreads_by_attacking_weak_passwordsAug 29 20:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Windows worm spreads by attacking weak passwords - Computerworld .::. Size~: 134.01 KBAug 29 20:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: goodmorning20Aug 29 20:08
neighborleeat least its gone in fedora..and making itself known in Mageia..which is odd..BUT its GONE BABY GONE in the new mandriva!!Aug 29 20:08
neighborleeyeah for mandriva/kdeAug 29 20:08
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neighborleeand well its not in kubuntu :))Aug 29 20:08
schestowitzyes, it's going obscureAug 29 20:08
neighborleeyay for common senseAug 29 20:08
schestowitzAnd no articles about itAug 29 20:08
neighborleeyupAug 29 20:08
schestowitzwe won in a wayAug 29 20:09
neighborleein a wayAug 29 20:09
schestowitzBut now we need to defeat swpatsAug 29 20:09
neighborleeBUT they are trying to reenergize in other areasAug 29 20:09
schestowitzMicrosoft is not revving up the anteAug 29 20:09
DaemonFChttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219563/Microsoft_ribbonizes_Windows_8_file_managerAug 29 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft 'ribbonizes' Windows 8 file manager - Computerworld .::. Size~: 138.01 KBAug 29 20:09
DaemonFCRibbons!Aug 29 20:09
schestowitzit has just launched embargo atack on motorola/googleAug 29 20:09
schestowitzI will write about this tomorrow when I learn more detailsAug 29 20:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: Mandriva has dropped official support for anything that's not KDEAug 29 20:09
DaemonFCin case you didn't noticeAug 29 20:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: "and then he woke out, sweating profusely and shouting 'ribbons!'"Aug 29 20:10
DaemonFCGNOME, XFCE, LXDE, and other desktops and window managers are now in the Contrib sectionAug 29 20:10
DaemonFCwhich means you can use them but there's no Mandriva support officially Aug 29 20:10
schestowitzgoodAug 29 20:10
schestowitzyou can use other distros for itAug 29 20:10
schestowitzCanonical is similarAug 29 20:10
schestowitzBut it uses a bastardised gnmeAug 29 20:10
schestowitzyou-nee-titAug 29 20:10
DaemonFCKDE is officially supportedAug 29 20:11
DaemonFCin UbuntuAug 29 20:11
schestowitzkubuntuAug 29 20:11
schestowitzthat's a sepatate distroAug 29 20:11
schestowitzbinary compatibleAug 29 20:11
DaemonFCyeah, Canonical has paid employees working on itAug 29 20:11
schestowitzmandriva was not like that, I thinkAug 29 20:11
schestowitzFedora is also still a gnome distroAug 29 20:11
schestowitzbut it has spinsAug 29 20:11
schestowitzkde spinAug 29 20:11
schestowitzand xfce spiAug 29 20:11
schestowitz*spinAug 29 20:11
DaemonFCthe spins are just for the purpose of the LiveCDAug 29 20:12
schestowitzon rhel you'd use gnomeAug 29 20:12
DaemonFCthe packages for KDE are part of FedoraAug 29 20:12
DaemonFCofficiallyAug 29 20:12
schestowitzsame in squeezeAug 29 20:12
DaemonFCthey're just maintained by the SIG groupsAug 29 20:12
schestowitzfedora 16 alpha is outAug 29 20:12
schestowitzneighborlee is already giving that a goAug 29 20:12
neighborleeDaemonFC, yes mandriva is making a HUGE shift..for the better maybe.at least mono is NOwhere insight..kde bring it on!Aug 29 20:12
schestowitz:-Aug 29 20:13
DaemonFCis Mono in the 2011 repository?Aug 29 20:13
schestowitzneighborlee uses an old version of kdeAug 29 20:13
schestowitzit's called vista7Aug 29 20:13
neighborleeLOLAug 29 20:13
ender_2600mandrive isn't going to do anything except for what it's already the best at: suckingAug 29 20:13
schestowitzvista8 is a copy of kde 4.0Aug 29 20:13
DaemonFCalso, they've made some weird KDE changes in MandrivaAug 29 20:13
neighborleeschestowitz, as if I have a choice atm.Aug 29 20:13
schestowitzit will have integrated progress barAug 29 20:13
schestowitzlike kde 4 years agoAug 29 20:13
neighborleeschestowitz, some of us need apps, that dont work well IF at all in ahem..wine ;)Aug 29 20:13
schestowitzwhich apps?Aug 29 20:13
neighborleena I use kde 4.6 I think nowAug 29 20:13
neighborleemsaccessAug 29 20:14
schestowitzmaybe we can ..Aug 29 20:14
ender_2600gamesAug 29 20:14
neighborleeand tons of gmesAug 29 20:14
schestowitzohAug 29 20:14
neighborleetrust me,,when I say,,most of the games I use are not working well in wineAug 29 20:14
schestowitzdual boot thenAug 29 20:14
neighborleeI do ;)Aug 29 20:14
ender_2600I'm not waiting 5 years for Deux Ex to work in WineAug 29 20:14
schestowitzcoolAug 29 20:14
neighborleeno chocieAug 29 20:14
neighborleeender_2600, ditto Aug 29 20:14
ender_2600I think they finally got the last version workingAug 29 20:14
schestowitzmy mate is excited about this gameAug 29 20:14
schestowitzreminds me of bioforgeAug 29 20:14
DaemonFChttps://www.networkworld.com/community/node/78344Aug 29 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Microsoft Update: Microsoft bashes VMware at VMworld, again .::. Size~: 91.1 KBAug 29 20:15
schestowitz!google game bioforgeAug 29 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BioForge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioForgeAug 29 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - BioForge (Origin) - The Best PC Game Of All Time - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DrEmMH0v_ryMAug 29 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Download Bioforge | Abandonia | http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/1030/Bioforge.htmlAug 29 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Download BioForge - Free DOS Games Downloads | http://www.classic-pc-games.com/pc/adventure/bioforge.htmlAug 29 20:15
ender_2600or the old deux exAug 29 20:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: they're hardly rivalsAug 29 20:15
schestowitzMS people run vmwareAug 29 20:15
schestowitzand some of vmware is put in winserverAug 29 20:15
schestowitzOur client is dumping vmwareAug 29 20:15
ender_2600roy, im not ms peopleAug 29 20:15
schestowitzone month left, many of the vms are migrated to kvm alreadyAug 29 20:16
schestowitzweb-based panel like vsphereAug 29 20:16
ender_2600I'd rather use vmware over virtualbox, and kvm over everythingAug 29 20:16
schestowitzender_2600: I didn't say you wereAug 29 20:16
schestowitzI never said you wereAug 29 20:16
ender_260016:06 < schestowitz> MS people run vmwareAug 29 20:16
schestowitzI never said s*it (Michael) was anyone's staff eitherAug 29 20:16
schestowitzHe's just a trollAug 29 20:16
schestowitz[20:16] <ender_2600> 16:06 < schestowitz> MS people run vmwareAug 29 20:17
schestowitzThe companyAug 29 20:17
ender_2600I actually think MS people are using hyper-vAug 29 20:17
schestowitzSee their CEO, COO and othersAug 29 20:17
schestowitzThey are all former MS execsAug 29 20:17
ender_2600they realized virtualization is where the future isAug 29 20:17
ender_2600yesAug 29 20:17
schestowitzI meant vmware the company, not the productAug 29 20:17
ender_2600doesn't mean they are all trojansAug 29 20:17
schestowitzOne of those companies with name identical to the flagship productAug 29 20:17
ender_2600you were really lucky with Elop, didnt think their shareholders would be so stupidAug 29 20:18
schestowitzDianne Greene and her hunsband seemed niceAug 29 20:18
schestowitzThey also contributed some stuff to FOSS before Tucci kicked them out and gave Ballmer the keysAug 29 20:18
neighborleeI use vmware player in windows 7 for msaccess actualllyAug 29 20:18
ender_2600Vmware?Aug 29 20:18
schestowitzEMC is now banding with MS and Apple on patentsAug 29 20:18
neighborleemight work in linux for the same I dunno..i'd have to try itAug 29 20:18
schestowitzneighborlee: it wouldAug 29 20:18
neighborleebut gamess,,and game SDK' are another matter entirley..Aug 29 20:19
DaemonFCVMWare is a major sponsor of Mesa aren't they?Aug 29 20:19
schestowitzit's quite solid on both platforms, but you could also try virtualbox for nonserverAug 29 20:19
schestowitz!google virtualbox downloadAug 29 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Downloads - VirtualBox | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/DownloadsAug 29 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - VirtualBox | http://www.virtualbox.org/Aug 29 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Linux_Downloads - VirtualBox | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_DownloadsAug 29 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Oracle VM VirtualBox - VirtualBox Downloads | http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.htmlAug 29 20:19
neighborleehell ..steam wont even work in wine correclty...partgs ofit yes..other parts notAug 29 20:19
neighborleewine is always a mixed bag of pro and con ;)Aug 29 20:19
neighborleemajor hastleAug 29 20:19
neighborleehence we dual boot ;))Aug 29 20:19
schestowitz[20:17] <ender_2600> I actually think MS people are using hyper-vAug 29 20:20
schestowitzMaybe smeAug 29 20:20
schestowitzI think it's not quite goodAug 29 20:20
schestowitzDepends if they use it like a religion or because they assess meritAug 29 20:20
schestowitzMicrosoft is now trying to piggyback Linux for the hyper-V torjan to be installedAug 29 20:20
MinceRhave you ever seen m$ stuff used on the basis of merit? :>Aug 29 20:20
schestowitzThis way they can control what's installed and who playsAug 29 20:20
schestowitzThey can favour SUSE to make just MS-taxed distros runnableAug 29 20:21
schestowitzMinceR: thinking,...........Aug 29 20:21
MinceR:>Aug 29 20:21
schestowitzMinceR: mice?Aug 29 20:21
schestowitzThey onlyt brand themAug 29 20:21
schestowitzAnd I don't think highly of them, eitherAug 29 20:21
MinceRi haven't used them much, but i didn't find them to be so greatAug 29 20:21
schestowitzand keyb0oards?Aug 29 20:22
MinceRalso, their "works even on glass" mouse technology fails on fabricAug 29 20:22
schestowitzIIRC you use oneAug 29 20:22
MinceRnopeAug 29 20:22
ender_260016:12 < schestowitz> Microsoft is now trying to piggyback Linux for the hyper-V torjan to be installedAug 29 20:22
MinceRi use a Logitech mouse and a Cherry keyboardAug 29 20:22
schestowitzniceAug 29 20:22
ender_2600adding drivers to linux so that you don't have to later is a bonusAug 29 20:22
schestowitzI have a logitech one againAug 29 20:22
schestowitzIt's iffy thoughAug 29 20:22
schestowitzStill surviving somehow, the other is a Dell, I think it's rebandged somehtingAug 29 20:22
ender_2600I wish vmware and virtualbox's drivers were good enough to go into the kernelAug 29 20:22
ender_2600only opensuse bundles virtualbox and vmware drivers, it seemsAug 29 20:23
MinceRi wish virtualizers and kernel developers would work this mess outAug 29 20:23
schestowitzIt just says at the bottom, Dell Dell,  Made in ChinaAug 29 20:23
MinceRand rely on generalized virtualized i/o driversAug 29 20:23
ender_2600generalized like no name food?Aug 29 20:23
ender_2600sucky for allAug 29 20:23
schestowitz"chewy staff"Aug 29 20:24
schestowitzI don't mind natural food being unlabelled if it's raw"Aug 29 20:24
schestowitzI mean, carrot is usually carrotAug 29 20:24
schestowitzof x typeAug 29 20:24
schestowitzunless it's GMOdAug 29 20:24
ender_2600I do mind actuallyAug 29 20:24
ender_2600it should be clear its GMO or not GMOAug 29 20:25
schestowitzthey don't really have brand, it's Made by Mother NatureAug 29 20:25
neighborlee#mageia is uncomfortable talkign about mono..seems they have mono BOOSTERS in place LOLAug 29 20:25
ender_2600I want cancer-free foodAug 29 20:25
schestowitzMaybe the farmer used poisons on it..Aug 29 20:25
neighborleeender_2600, then dont eat meatAug 29 20:25
*neighborlee doesn't..Aug 29 20:25
ender_2600I don't believe in Gaia earth worshipAug 29 20:25
ender_2600no "Mother Nature" in my mindAug 29 20:25
neighborleeto veganism! and health<<Aug 29 20:25
neighborleeender_2600, its the same thing as saying god,,in a wayAug 29 20:25
ender_2600yeahAug 29 20:25
neighborleenature, molecules...same thingAug 29 20:26
schestowitzneighborlee: vegetarians are more prone to hart diseaseAug 29 20:26
ender_2600its just a religion for atheist vegansAug 29 20:26
schestowitzAnf they are said to be living shorter livesAug 29 20:26
neighborleeschestowitz,wrong wrongAug 29 20:26
neighborleelolAug 29 20:26
ender_2600everyone needs their 'God'Aug 29 20:26
schestowitzIf all external factors are annulled in large studiesAug 29 20:26
neighborleeyou have no clue what your talking aboutAug 29 20:26
neighborleemeat causes all forms of heart disease and cancersAug 29 20:26
schestowitzneighborlee: show me a studyAug 29 20:26
neighborleeeasy peasyAug 29 20:26
neighborleedid you see sanji gupta study ?Aug 29 20:26
schestowitzI think my grandad died because of his vegetarian dietAug 29 20:26
neighborleedone with factsAug 29 20:26
schestowitzbut that's anecdotalAug 29 20:27
neighborleeLOLAug 29 20:27
neighborleeI meanAug 29 20:27
neighborleesorry he died obviously..but really...Aug 29 20:27
ender_260016:12 < schestowitz> Microsoft is now trying to piggyback Linux for the hyper-V torjan to be installedAug 29 20:27
schestowitzThere's a lack of some nutrientsAug 29 20:27
ender_2600whoopsAug 29 20:27
ender_2600sorryAug 29 20:27
neighborleeschestowitz, no there is notAug 29 20:27
neighborleeschestowitz, Only if you do it wrong.Aug 29 20:27
neighborleelike anything in life.Aug 29 20:27
neighborlee:(Aug 29 20:27
schestowitz[20:26] <neighborlee> did you see sanji gupta study ?Aug 29 20:27
ender_2600neighborlee - yes there isAug 29 20:27
schestowitzcan you provide the link? I'm interestedAug 29 20:27
neighborleeyesAug 29 20:27
neighborleeeasyAug 29 20:27
ender_2600you can't get all your nutrients from vegetablesAug 29 20:27
neighborleeender_2600, is whatAug 29 20:28
schestowitzI saw a study showing the opposite and spanning many departments around the world, so it's hard to cheatAug 29 20:28
neighborleesome veggie products have what is commonly referred to as 'supplements' yesAug 29 20:28
neighborleeso ..its nutrient complete..ie; yeast , etc.Aug 29 20:28
neighborleeie: non meat sourcesAug 29 20:28
neighborleeschestowitz, checkingAug 29 20:28
schestowitz[20:26] <neighborlee> nature, molecules...same thingAug 29 20:29
schestowitzMost foods are a composition of thingsAug 29 20:29
cubezzzit would be interesting to know what percentage of people over 100 are vegetarianAug 29 20:29
neighborleeschestowitz, http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/02/%e2%80%98dr-sanjay-gupta-reports-the-last-heart-attack%e2%80%99-%e2%80%93-a-mission-possible/ < bamAug 29 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‘Dr. Sanjay Gupta Reports: The Last Heart Attack’  – CNN Press Room - CNN.com Blogs .::. Size~: 74.07 KBAug 29 20:29
neighborleethere is your proofAug 29 20:29
neighborlee:)Aug 29 20:29
neighborleeone anywayAug 29 20:29
schestowitzcubezzz: it correlates with other stuffAug 29 20:30
neighborleefrom a respected neural surgeonAug 29 20:30
schestowitzlike drinking and smoking sometimesAug 29 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Made it home. Phew.Aug 29 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @gbraad Thanks so much! It seems like all the developers of these projects don't know much about one another...Aug 29 20:30
cubezzzoldest person ever smoked a bit evidentlyAug 29 20:30
schestowitzSo the statistics are more complicated than thisAug 29 20:30
cubezzz1 or 2 cigarettes per dayAug 29 20:30
schestowitzand you can't just one one single threshold of ageAug 29 20:30
cubezzzover 100 is impressive thoughAug 29 20:30
neighborleethe point is..no one can call themselves a respectable individual who cares for other sentient beings..and then eats meat, when its died horribly Aug 29 20:30
neighborleeits called oxymoronAug 29 20:30
neighborlee:)Aug 29 20:31
MinceRnot all meat is from sentient beingsAug 29 20:31
cubezzzbut no one would say smoking prolongs lifeAug 29 20:31
neighborleemost people are just desensitized to all of itAug 29 20:31
ender_2600cubezzz - an in-law is ~107 and drinks a shot of gin once a day - still drives tooAug 29 20:31
cubezzzneighborlee, you have a point thereAug 29 20:31
ender_260016:22 < cubezzz> but no one would say smoking prolongs lifeAug 29 20:31
ender_2600smoking whatAug 29 20:31
ender_2600marijuana mightAug 29 20:31
MinceR"the spice extends life"Aug 29 20:32
schestowitzold spiceAug 29 20:32
schestowitzfor old people?Aug 29 20:32
cubezzzthat's old old spice :)Aug 29 20:32
MinceRnahAug 29 20:32
MinceRmelangeAug 29 20:32
schestowitzbahAug 29 20:32
cubezzzit's got to be cheaper to eat vegetarian food Aug 29 20:33
cubezzzmore energy efficient tooAug 29 20:33
MinceRmade of vegetarians?Aug 29 20:33
cubezzzjust saying I can see the logic of itAug 29 20:33
ender_2600cubezzz - until we're all eating veggies instead and the eco nuts tax the shit out of itAug 29 20:34
cubezzzisn't heart failure the number one cause of death?Aug 29 20:34
schestowitzI heard that because a lot of veg is burned to sustain the meet it turns into when digested we lose like 80% of the energy when we wat meatAug 29 20:34
schestowitzwe as in humansAug 29 20:34
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ender_2600you lose more energy eating cooked veggiesAug 29 20:35
schestowitzAnd if the foot pyramid was just animals about plants, we'd have less waste of sun energyAug 29 20:35
ender_2600vs rawAug 29 20:35
ender_2600than having meatAug 29 20:35
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1722#comicAug 29 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal .::. Size~: 20.95 KBAug 29 20:35
schestowitzI east many vegs and fruit rawAug 29 20:35
schestowitz*eatAug 29 20:35
schestowitzanyone canAug 29 20:36
ender_2600you shouldn't cook them anywaysAug 29 20:36
ender_2600it destroys enzymesAug 29 20:36
MinceRanyone can, it just doesn't make them a hero.Aug 29 20:36
schestowitzwe tend to overheat stuff that we eat coldAug 29 20:36
schestowitzWaste of energy reallyAug 29 20:36
schestowitzjust to soften itAug 29 20:36
MinceRschestowitz: our digestive tract has adjusted to itAug 29 20:36
MinceRso have our teethAug 29 20:36
MinceRinstead of expending extra energy there, we expend extra energy in preparing the foodAug 29 20:37
schestowitzour teeth are badAug 29 20:37
schestowitzAnd we still use corrective stuff on all kids in the WestAug 29 20:37
schestowitzTo mark ourselvedAug 29 20:37
ender_2600flouride also does damage to teethAug 29 20:37
ender_2600dental florosisAug 29 20:37
MinceRiirc only if you're youngAug 29 20:38
MinceRand/or at very high dosesAug 29 20:38
ender_2600don't have to be youngAug 29 20:38
ender_2600just has to be a high dose, which is whats being usedAug 29 20:38
MinceRstrangeAug 29 20:38
MinceRall my toothpastes so far had flouride in them, yet my teeth are fineAug 29 20:38
ender_2600where I am there is enough flouride in a glass of water that you can find in one application of toothpasteAug 29 20:38
schestowitzreally?Aug 29 20:39
ender_2600yet, if you swallow a drop of toothpaste you're supposed to call poison controlAug 29 20:39
schestowitzwhere does the water come from?Aug 29 20:39
ender_2600schestowitz - the city does itAug 29 20:39
schestowitzin a conspiracy to poison you?Aug 29 20:39
ender_2600yesAug 29 20:40
ender_2600!google poison tap waterAug 29 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Poison Tap Water Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your ... | http://www.infowars.com/poison-tap-water/Aug 29 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Poison in the kitchen...How tap water could damage your brain ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-563123/Poison-kitchen--How-tap-water-damage-brain-blind-kill-you.htmlAug 29 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Prison Planet.com » Poison Tap Water Makes Number 1 Google ... | http://www.prisonplanet.com/poison-tap-water-makes-number-1-google-search.htmlAug 29 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Poison tap water in Major USA Cities - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9v7ZOAU5fkMAug 29 20:40
schestowitzanyway, about the amount of fluoride, got anything saying water in Canada is this full of it?Aug 29 20:40
ender_2600Hamilton Ontario tests their water 47,000 times a yearAug 29 20:40
schestowitzI see Alex Jones sitesAug 29 20:40
schestowitzAnd Murdoch tabloidAug 29 20:40
ender_2600just to make sure theres enough IQ robbing chemicalsAug 29 20:40
schestowitzLet's see if they link toa  stuidyAug 29 20:41
ender_2600http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/health/flouride090105.htmlAug 29 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EPA Scientists & Workers Call for an End to Water Fluoridation   Because of Cancer Risk .::. Size~: 16.03 KBAug 29 20:41
ender_2600there was an EPA studyAug 29 20:41
ender_2600http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/fluoridesummary.htmAug 29 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fluoride Summary .::. Size~: 3.58 KBAug 29 20:42
schestowitzthe murdoch tabloid does not mention flurideAug 29 20:42
schestowitz*fluorideAug 29 20:42
schestowitznot even onceAug 29 20:42
ender_2600no it seems to be something elseAug 29 20:42
ender_2600probably radonAug 29 20:42
ender_2600the infowars has more accurate infoAug 29 20:43
schestowitzdoes the EPA study support your dosage claims?Aug 29 20:43
schestowitzradon is nastyAug 29 20:43
ender_2600my dosage claims?Aug 29 20:43
schestowitzanyway, water is polluted and getting worse, there's chlorine in it too now.. added to kill off other junkAug 29 20:44
schestowitzPoison against poisonAug 29 20:44
schestowitzender_2600: yes, about amount per glass of water in .caAug 29 20:44
schestowitzit sounded /well/ exaggeratedAug 29 20:45
ender_2600ill have to look it up againAug 29 20:45
schestowitzthanksAug 29 20:45
ender_2600http://www.toronto.ca/health/dental/pdf/fluoride.pdfAug 29 20:45
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeAug 29 20:45
ender_2600heres one of toronto 0.6ppmAug 29 20:45
ender_2600http://www.slweb.org/50reasons.htmlAug 29 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation .::. Size~: 82.73 KBAug 29 20:46
ender_2600Dr. Paul ConnettAug 29 20:46
ender_2600Professor of ChemistryAug 29 20:46
schestowitzyes, but the amounts is what I'm afterAug 29 20:47
schestowitzIt's known we can get water poisoningAug 29 20:47
schestowitzdiluting the salts in our liquid flowAug 29 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks 'insurance' files have not been decrypted. All press are currently misreporting.Aug 29 20:48
schestowitzbut not sure about pertinent chemicalAug 29 20:48
schestowitzIn Turkey we couldn't drink tap waterAug 29 20:48
ender_2600how much flouride is in an application of toothpasteAug 29 20:48
schestowitzIn some nations the situation is already pretty grimAug 29 20:48
schestowitzWater importsAug 29 20:48
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/08/29/dos/Aug 29 20:50
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ender_2600125 ppm in flourAug 29 20:50
ender_2600http://www.fluoridealert.org/pesticides/sf.nov.2006.submission.pdfAug 29 20:51
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ender_2600not to mention the good old fact it was Hitler's ideaAug 29 20:52
ender_2600http://youtu.be/LW3JM2O3nQYAug 29 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 113 dents!Aug 29 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm afraid !Google's Eric Schmit said enough in Edinburgh to put me off Google+ - I won't leave, but I feel a lot less positive about it nowAug 29 20:53
ender_2600Dr Paul ConnettAug 29 20:53
ender_2600on Infowars, but so was RMSAug 29 20:53
neighborleeender_2600, marijuana is known to cause many helath issues.and IT IS addictive..dont EVEN get more started wtih that crapAug 29 20:53
ender_2600The US is reducing its flouride from 1.1 to 0.7 ppmAug 29 20:53
ender_2600neighborlee - bullshitAug 29 20:54
neighborleeLOLAug 29 20:54
neighborleepothead!Aug 29 20:54
ender_2600neighborlee - only the government would agree with youAug 29 20:54
neighborleeLOLAug 29 20:54
neighborleeYEAH rightAug 29 20:54
ender_2600I'm not a potheadAug 29 20:54
neighborleetell that to most of my friends..who can NOT get by without SMOKING THE SHITAug 29 20:54
neighborleetalk to my handAug 29 20:54
ender_2600LOLAug 29 20:55
neighborleereal life is proof.Aug 29 20:55
MinceRban ethanol and tobaccoAug 29 20:55
neighborleeI would if I couldAug 29 20:55
neighborleeeverone wants it ;)Aug 29 20:55
neighborleemehAug 29 20:55
neighborleesoon we have alternativesAug 29 20:55
neighborleebest we can do atmAug 29 20:55
neighborleepeople are HOOKED on addictive things..is that hard to comprehend ?Aug 29 20:56
neighborleeduhAug 29 20:56
ender_2600I know people who sell marijuana for income and live off of welfareAug 29 20:56
ender_2600Im always bitching about their drug funded free rideAug 29 20:56
neighborleeim sureAug 29 20:56
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/08/29/m-v-world-in-the-cloud/Aug 29 20:56
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ender_2600but the drug itself isnt that badAug 29 20:56
ender_2600tobacco is worseAug 29 20:56
ender_2600schestowitz - http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/varner-1998.pdfAug 29 20:58
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schestowitzender_2600: alcohol ooAug 29 20:58
schestowitz*tooAug 29 20:58
schestowitzender_2600: I know it's bad, but...Aug 29 20:58
schestowitz1) show me the dosage you namedAug 29 20:58
ender_2600schestowitz - http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/idd.htmlAug 29 20:58
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ender_2600schestowitz - the 0.6 ppm for toronto? i didAug 29 20:58
schestowitz2) show proof it's designed like this in _order_ to harm peopleAug 29 20:58
ender_2600I have to prove rich people want us dead?Aug 29 20:59
schestowitzis that the same as a drop of toothpaste (like a class of water in toronto)?Aug 29 20:59
schestowitzCause if so, that's a high density, I'd agreeAug 29 20:59
schestowitzender_2600: yesAug 29 20:59
ender_2600I don't know whats in more-than-a-drop of toothpasteAug 29 20:59
schestowitzyou said something like that\Aug 29 21:00
ender_2600I saw a video a year ago by someone who was from hamilton and it covered a bunch of stuff - i can't find the videoAug 29 21:00
schestowitz[20:39] <ender_2600> yet, if you swallow a drop of toothpaste you're supposed to call poison controlAug 29 21:00
schestowitz[20:38] <ender_2600> where I am there is enough flouride in a glass of water that you can find in one application of toothpasteAug 29 21:00
schestowitzthat's what I wondered aboutAug 29 21:01
ender_2600im trying to find outAug 29 21:01
schestowitzmaybe you can run a new wikileaks search on "fluoride"Aug 29 21:01
schestowitzAnd show me if you see the conspiracy you speak ofAug 29 21:01
ender_2600thats a logical fallacy in itselfAug 29 21:02
ender_2600you won't find it in wikileaks because they'll censor stuff like thatAug 29 21:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108262704824844288Aug 29 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz i'm really in need of a low power usage server, i can't run pentium 4s all day!Aug 29 21:02
schestowitzsecond-hand servers are cheapAug 29 21:02
schestowitzender_2600: who censors it?Aug 29 21:03
schestowitzwikileaks?Aug 29 21:03
ender_2600yesAug 29 21:03
ender_2600they did for israelAug 29 21:03
ender_2600that means they have a priceAug 29 21:03
*MinceR signs neighborlee up for an oxygen rehabilitation courseAug 29 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: @psquid ohhhhoh my brain is melting with awesomeAug 29 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Google is being MITM by Iran using fake cert http://pastebin.com/ff7Yg663 more info http://pastebin.com/SwCZqskVAug 29 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GoldmanSachs targeted as 'Jaws' joins battle over banking crash http://ur1.ca/4zhcp let's see some arrests/confiscations.These are looters.Aug 29 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks grand jury prosecutor required to take an unexpected business-related trip out of the country http://t.co/zi2xuodAug 29 21:06
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ender_2600wikileaks is there for people like youAug 29 21:06
ender_2600when you don't find conspiracies in the leaks, you say 'there must not be a conspiracy cause wikileaks can't lie'Aug 29 21:07
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81991636Aug 29 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Aaron Seigo (aseigo)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 18:15:07 UTC - Identi.ca: watching a peaceful summer sunset over the swiss countryside... gorgeous... making some food :)Aug 29 21:07
ender_2600even though they lied about Bradley Manning getting a cent of the donations they took in his nameAug 29 21:07
schestowitzender_2600: noAug 29 21:07
schestowitzI use WL a lotAug 29 21:07
schestowitzsee some recent TR postsAug 29 21:07
schestowitzi urged you to fidn thisAug 29 21:07
ender_2600exactlyAug 29 21:07
schestowitzIf evidence existsAug 29 21:07
ender_2600dude, I just told youAug 29 21:07
ender_2600thats the planAug 29 21:07
schestowitzLike the ones I pssted today about big pharma lobbying using officials paid by taxpayersAug 29 21:07
ender_2600"IF the evidence exists IT MUST be in wikileaks"Aug 29 21:07
ender_2600'Elseif null'Aug 29 21:08
schestowitzIt's important that we show this as it turns theory into substantiated truthAug 29 21:08
schestowitzAnd we prevent people from being ridiculed for making those claimsAug 29 21:08
schestowitzender_2600: no, Aug 29 21:08
ender_2600wikileaks is authorized to publish that stuffAug 29 21:08
schestowitzelse, notenoughAug 29 21:08
schestowitzThis is just US stack of cablesAug 29 21:08
ender_2600yeah, and authorized to be leaked onesAug 29 21:09
schestowitzThe repository is not all cables from all the worldAug 29 21:09
schestowitzJust the world's superpowerAug 29 21:09
ender_2600they didn't leak 100% of the cables that the US hasAug 29 21:09
schestowitzI think they'll release all ofm themAug 29 21:09
schestowitzThey have already done MOSTAug 29 21:09
schestowitzVery fastAug 29 21:09
ender_2600how do you know thats true at allAug 29 21:09
schestowitzThe media says they had it decryptedAug 29 21:09
schestowitzWikileaks strongly deniesAug 29 21:09
schestowitzAnd a Norawy-based newspaper, Something Posten, got al the cables anyway, IIRCAug 29 21:10
ender_2600for one, why would I use something insecure for people killing plans?Aug 29 21:10
ender_2600anonymous uses i2p for their communications, you don't think that the elite wouldn't think of that too? or something better?Aug 29 21:10
schestowitzi don't affliiated with amnonymous of lulsecAug 29 21:11
schestowitzThey're doing cracy stuffAug 29 21:11
schestowitz*razyAug 29 21:11
ender_2600they're doing somethingAug 29 21:11
schestowitzLike peple I sometimes see who think of agressive action against govt.Aug 29 21:11
ender_2600better than whiningAug 29 21:11
schestowitzIt's totally misguisedAug 29 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Many names are on the various WL-US grand jury docs. JA, Rop, even BJ. But never DDB. Why?Aug 29 21:11
ender_2600government needs to go awayAug 29 21:11
schestowitzAnd they only hurt people whom they don't acually view as the targetAug 29 21:11
schestowitzender_2600: hehAug 29 21:11
schestowitzThat's where you and I disagreeAug 29 21:11
ender_2600because im not a sociopathAug 29 21:12
schestowitznot all governance is sociopathicAug 29 21:12
ender_2600I don't feel I have a need to control peopleAug 29 21:12
ender_2600yes it isAug 29 21:12
schestowitzgovernment is, by defnition, there to srve the peopleAug 29 21:12
ender_2600controlling others is sociopathicAug 29 21:12
schestowitzThen it gets perturbedAug 29 21:12
ender_2600nopeAug 29 21:12
schestowitzAnd the rich people take over itAug 29 21:12
ender_2600government is control of the mindAug 29 21:12
schestowitzThe corporationsAug 29 21:12
schestowitzThen it's  a rogue govt.Aug 29 21:12
ender_2600there never has been a government loyal to the people in all of historyAug 29 21:12
schestowitzAnd it needs to be replacedAug 29 21:12
schestowitzBut a two-party system gives the illusion of controlAug 29 21:13
ender_2600name oneAug 29 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Copyright Nightmare of "I Have a Dream" speech by Alex_Pasternack http://ping.fm/TfrBCAug 29 21:13
schestowitzVoting in always the same rich peopleAug 29 21:13
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ender_2600name a government that worked for the peopleAug 29 21:13
ender_2600name ONEAug 29 21:13
schestowitzThen you know voting can't rubbish the corrupt government Aug 29 21:13
schestowitzAnd then some people choose to replace it by force, like in EgyptAug 29 21:13
ender_2600voting isn't perfect eitherAug 29 21:13
ender_2600you brainwash the masses into voting compliance via the mediaAug 29 21:13
schestowitzdepends which peopleAug 29 21:13
ender_2600its not hardAug 29 21:13
schestowitzI heard the govt. in Boivia turned aroundAug 29 21:13
schestowitzvoting is not perfect when it's gamedAug 29 21:14
ender_2600they still have money, debt, laws and taxAug 29 21:14
schestowitzAs it is in the WestAug 29 21:14
schestowitzCampaign funding corrupt the race, not just mediaAug 29 21:14
schestowitzIIRC, MinceR too is against govt.Aug 29 21:14
ender_2600they run the mediaAug 29 21:14
schestowitznot ALL mediaAug 29 21:15
schestowitzDepose the fake mediaAug 29 21:15
ender_2600yes I'd say ALL mediaAug 29 21:15
schestowitzThat's another goalAug 29 21:15
ender_2600the smaller outlets copy the giantsAug 29 21:15
MinceRschestowitz: you remember correctlyAug 29 21:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108268599877189632Aug 29 21:16
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz i'd really like ultra low power, but more powerful an cheaper than the average NASAug 29 21:16
schestowitzThat depends on cost of electricityAug 29 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks 'insurance' files have not been decrypted. All press are currently misreporting. There is an issue, but not that issue.Aug 29 21:16
ender_2600I'd like to be able to do whatever I want without the government or someone else getting in my face about itAug 29 21:16
neighborleeMinceR, make fun/mock all you wish..point is,,everyone Iknow who smokes it...are addicated to needing it every single day..I"d call that a fairly large risk factor and not cheap to begin with ( unless you could grow it..),,having said all that; Aug 29 21:16
neighborleehttp://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.htmlAug 29 21:16
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neighborleefeel free to refute that..this isn't hitlers germany ;)Aug 29 21:17
ender_2600neighborlee - nih is the governmentAug 29 21:17
neighborleeI know who they areAug 29 21:17
ender_2600why would you believe themAug 29 21:17
ender_2600they lieAug 29 21:17
neighborleedoes not automagically make their statements , incorrect does it ?Aug 29 21:17
ender_2600yes, it doesAug 29 21:17
MinceRneighborlee: yet a large part of human population is ok with addictive drugs, so long as they're not the drugs of the "brown people"Aug 29 21:17
neighborleeBSAug 29 21:17
neighborleebrown people ?ROFLAug 29 21:17
neighborleepa-leaseAug 29 21:17
MinceRi think people should decide for themselves, after they inform themselvesAug 29 21:17
ender_2600everything the US government says about drugs was paid for by alcohol and tobaccoAug 29 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: #MeeGo Community Edition on #N950; http://t.co/zhqWMEE #N9 via @gbraadAug 29 21:18
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ender_2600marijuana competes too much with alcohol and tobacco and doesn't cause all the problems they doAug 29 21:18
ender_2600its a safer alternative and you can grow it yourself, so it cant be taxedAug 29 21:18
neighborleeyou cant drive whlie under MJ..nor alcohol..not without significant risk..Aug 29 21:18
ender_2600thats why its bannedAug 29 21:18
ender_2600wrong againAug 29 21:18
neighborleeI know from experienceAug 29 21:18
neighborleemore than a few years agoAug 29 21:18
ender_2600studies have shown time and time again that people who smoke MJ drive slower and more cautiouslyAug 29 21:18
neighborleeLOLAug 29 21:19
ender_2600in fact, the people who got into accidents did both alcohol and MJAug 29 21:19
neighborleeyes I know about thatAug 29 21:19
schestowitzMarijuana is bad you you,,,   mmmkay?Aug 29 21:19
ender_2600well stop lyingAug 29 21:19
schestowitzBut so are most drugs, foods tooAug 29 21:19
ender_2600what are you a christian?Aug 29 21:19
neighborleeScientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to the brain and other organs throughout the body.Aug 29 21:19
schestowitzThe thing is all relativeAug 29 21:19
MinceRender_2600: he's the christian lunatic fringeAug 29 21:19
ender_2600oh noes!Aug 29 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @mece66: Tweed Suit 0.8.3 now available for N9/N950. Translations are back + more. http://t.co/Qw3Q3xm #tweedsuit...Aug 29 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Firefox Mobile 7.0 beta 2 for #N900 #Maemo: available for download http://t.co/9cRDRNxAug 29 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jkosonen: If you had problems logging in with fMobi 1.3.2, there's now fMobi 1.3.3 for download. http://t.co/Z0a1j93Aug 29 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: Tried latest MeeGo tablet image in pinetrail (ExoPC). Looks somewhat polished but serious problems with functionality.Aug 29 21:19
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MinceRamong other thingsAug 29 21:19
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ender_2600the chemical travelsAug 29 21:19
MinceRalso m$ fanboyAug 29 21:19
ender_2600LOLAug 29 21:20
ender_2600hes a bundle of fun all rolled up into oneAug 29 21:20
MinceRfor whoever finds that fun, yesAug 29 21:20
neighborleeNot surprisingly, marijuana intoxication can cause distorted perceptions, impaired coordination, difficulty with thinking and problem solving, and problems with learning and memory. Aug 29 21:20
ender_2600neighborlee - at what doseAug 29 21:20
schestowitzso can alcoholAug 29 21:21
ender_2600what is the weight of the people using itAug 29 21:21
*MinceR wonders what neighborlee thinks about drinking the alcoholic blood of his godAug 29 21:21
ender_2600weight and dose play heavilyAug 29 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp Registration is filling fast for #AppUpElements 2011. Do you still need a reg code? DM me to get your. http://t.co/boxVcYGAug 29 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] See what #Pfizer is doing http://t.co/u5rltKi this drug is bad, but US politicians want campaign funding, doesn't matter what truth says.Aug 29 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Acer Aspire 5749-2334G50 on Amazon.de Intel Core i3 Processor with MeeGo http://mge.bz/lF #Intel #MeeGo #Acer #AmazonAug 29 21:21
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neighborleeall m yfriends that use MJ..smoke at least a few pipe hits..at the very least..NOT small hits either..BIG inhalesAug 29 21:21
schestowitzMinceR: religions like boozeAug 29 21:21
ender_2600there is no lethal dose of marijuana, there is of alcohol and tobaccoAug 29 21:21
schestowitzEven in the bibleAug 29 21:21
neighborleeso lets not even go there shall weAug 29 21:21
schestowitzthey are in favour of intoxicationAug 29 21:21
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*arianit has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Aug 29 21:22
DaemonFChere, eat some blood and fleshAug 29 21:22
MinceRschestowitz: some religions use different drugsAug 29 21:22
DaemonFCstay around, we'll bring out the altar boys soon Aug 29 21:22
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schestowitzdepending on geography and lawAug 29 21:22
ender_2600Noah got raped after drinking heavilyAug 29 21:22
ender_2600in the bibleAug 29 21:22
ender_2600LOLAug 29 21:22
schestowitzNoah buiilt a boat for dinosaurAug 29 21:22
DaemonFCsurprise buttsex Aug 29 21:22
schestowitzWhich then raped himAug 29 21:22
ender_2600thats so immature royAug 29 21:23
schestowitzBarney couldn't lay eggs with Noah's DNA, thankfullyAug 29 21:23
neighborleeA number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, and schizophreniaAug 29 21:23
ender_2600neighborlee - poorly done and refutedAug 29 21:23
schestowitzany similar studies for alcohol?Aug 29 21:24
neighborleeI now that one IS fact..my friends,,all of them that smoke are..are anxiety riddenAug 29 21:24
ender_2600why dont you cite some of theseAug 29 21:24
schestowitzjust swap marijuana with alcoholAug 29 21:24
schestowitzAnd add severe health damage to the symptoms/impactAug 29 21:24
ender_2600neighborlee - do you know if they had anxiety issues before smokingAug 29 21:24
DaemonFCIrony is an altar boy named Neil Aug 29 21:24
DaemonFCB-)Aug 29 21:24
schestowitzneighborlee: maybe they are anxiety ridden, THUS they take drugsAug 29 21:24
neighborleeender_2600, def. didn'tAug 29 21:24
ender_2600perhaps they are self medicating for depressionAug 29 21:25
ender_2600lots of people have "depression"Aug 29 21:25
ender_26001 in 5 or soAug 29 21:25
ender_2600thats what the dumb commercials sayAug 29 21:25
schestowitzthe commericals ar part of the problemAug 29 21:25
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schestowitzThey create expectations people cannot meetAug 29 21:25
ender_260050% of canadians (in a study) have tried marijuana at least onceAug 29 21:25
ender_2600did 50% of canadians become schitzophrenicAug 29 21:26
neighborleeschestowitz, quiteAug 29 21:26
schestowitzAnd they offer 'medicatipn' in the form of consumeriam to make up for insecuritiesAug 29 21:26
neighborlee1 in 5 LOLAug 29 21:26
neighborleemost peopel deal with life as it comes..thats called shit hapensAug 29 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] List of US programs initially considered for suspension in Honduras after June 28, 2009 coup http://t.co/w8lNQfR #wlfind via @kgosztolaAug 29 21:26
schestowitzhow is that measured?Aug 29 21:26
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schestowitz"Are you sepressed?Aug 29 21:26
neighborleewe come prepared to handle life..most of usAug 29 21:26
schestowitz"Are you NOT depressed?Aug 29 21:26
schestowitz"Are you usually feeling depressed?Aug 29 21:26
ender_2600neighborlee - the only real downsides is that marijuana effects short term memory while you're under the influenceAug 29 21:26
schestowitzThey can push-oll easilyAug 29 21:26
schestowitzpush-pollAug 29 21:26
neighborleeender_2600, yes Aug 29 21:27
ender_2600everything else was made up to support the republican/christian war on drugsAug 29 21:27
MinceR"help, i'm being repressed!"Aug 29 21:27
ender_2600they even used to say it caused suicideAug 29 21:27
schestowitzneighborlee: "handle" life makes it sounds like a choreAug 29 21:27
neighborleeender_2600, im not a republican.Aug 29 21:27
schestowitzLike we're assigned to a taskAug 29 21:27
neighborleenot even closeAug 29 21:27
neighborleeschestowitz, just a reality ;)Aug 29 21:27
schestowitzOur only task is to spread the DNA to a new bodyAug 29 21:27
neighborleemost of us handle life as it comes.without drugsAug 29 21:28
MinceRunless you find a new task using your intellect, sure :>Aug 29 21:28
MinceRsomeone said "life is for those who can't handle drugs"Aug 29 21:28
schestowitzheheAug 29 21:28
schestowitzMinceR: that's the domesticated human anywayAug 29 21:28
MinceRi hope that's not the domesticated human, but the intelligent humanAug 29 21:29
schestowitzno such thingAug 29 21:29
MinceR(sure, a tiny subset of the subspecies...)Aug 29 21:29
schestowitzhumans are the missing link between animals and civilised menAug 29 21:29
schestowitz[or women]Aug 29 21:29
MinceRbut what about civilized women?Aug 29 21:29
MinceRoh.Aug 29 21:29
schestowitzremember what women are according to the bibleAug 29 21:30
neighborleelolAug 29 21:30
schestowitzI was using a idomatic phraseAug 29 21:30
neighborleehey , thats not fair entirely ;)Aug 29 21:30
schestowitzthe bible says women are dirty ribsAug 29 21:30
schestowitzand we're justb dirtAug 29 21:30
neighborleeonly according to certain passagesAug 29 21:30
schestowitzwhich one would you raher be?Aug 29 21:30
schestowitzI feel lucky to be dirtAug 29 21:30
schestowitzBut I hope to be a rib one dayAug 29 21:30
schestowitz  /sarcasmAug 29 21:31
schestowitzthe bible is so poeticAug 29 21:31
schestowitzAnd accurate, I think..Aug 29 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] There has been no 'leak at WikiLeaks'. The issue relates to a mainstream media partner and a malicious individual.Aug 29 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: MeeGo: Has the perfect netbook OS arrived? - The Times of India : http://mge.bz/lHAug 29 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] India's islamic Love Jihad fervor - seducing Christian girls for allah http://t.co/0loQpLGAug 29 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: Internet Radio Player for Harmattan (Nokia N9 / N950): http://t.co/BaUQuvJAug 29 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo: Has the perfect netbook OS arrived? - The Times of India .::. Size~: 122.52 KBAug 29 21:31
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MinceRthe bible also treats women like commodity/cattleAug 29 21:31
neighborleelets not forget its myriad mistranslationsAug 29 21:31
neighborleebut sure---Aug 29 21:31
schestowitzAnd ask peple about how the Quran has all th phsics in itAug 29 21:31
schestowitzCause some French man made a forune selling this scamAug 29 21:31
MinceRtheir idea of "hospitality" is "sure, rape my underage daughter"Aug 29 21:31
ender_2600also that most of the bible is really allegoryAug 29 21:31
MinceRsureAug 29 21:32
schestowitzneighborlee: so what does the word trasklated to rib mean in aramic?Aug 29 21:32
neighborleeender_2600, and you verified this how ;)Aug 29 21:32
neighborleeender_2600, oh great sage!!Aug 29 21:32
schestowitzAramaicAug 29 21:32
MinceRit's all metaphor and allegory except for the parts the cultists cherry-pick as their current idea of the "morality" that stays foreverAug 29 21:32
ender_2600neighborlee - easy, look at the religions that they stoleAug 29 21:32
*neighborlee laughsAug 29 21:32
ender_2600neighborlee - ever heard of zoroastrian freemasonryAug 29 21:32
neighborleethe world does not EXIST in a bubble Aug 29 21:32
MinceRs/forever/"forever"/Aug 29 21:32
neighborleeDUHAug 29 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: Orientation - small game for the N9 / N950 - rotate the device before time runs out: http://t.co/lCDTKZrAug 29 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Nice! RT @vgrade: http://t.co/8iGuZXP #meego #plasma #active uxAug 29 21:33
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MinceRstrange, in most languages the word "rib" does have a meaning by itselfAug 29 21:33
schestowitzpork chops..Aug 29 21:33
ender_2600genesis is an allegory for genetic engineeringAug 29 21:33
schestowitzAdam had some pork chopsAug 29 21:33
neighborleeyeah , to that add veganismAug 29 21:33
ender_2600the gene's of isisAug 29 21:33
schestowitzHe built a companion with them?Aug 29 21:33
MinceRender_2600: is the bible an allegory for "throw away millenia-old badly written fiction and superstitions and live like a civilized person and think for yourself"?Aug 29 21:34
ender_2600removing adam's rib would be the same thing as removing a hair sampleAug 29 21:34
schestowitzBTW, if the talking snake had feet, was it still a snake?Aug 29 21:34
ender_2600to make a female clone based on his dnaAug 29 21:34
MinceRschestowitz: are you saying that the snake... evolved?Aug 29 21:34
schestowitzNO!!!Aug 29 21:34
schestowitzIt's a THEORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Aug 29 21:35
ender_2600the snake was actually allegory for one of the other creations by the genetic engineersAug 29 21:35
neighborleeMinceR, spoken like a true skeptic LOLAug 29 21:35
neighborleewhat I dont know.I DONT BELIEVE BITCHAug 29 21:35
MinceRender_2600: in other words, a Goa'uld?Aug 29 21:35
schestowitzJeff Gouald?Aug 29 21:35
ender_2600not literallyAug 29 21:35
MinceRlolAug 29 21:35
schestowitzBTWAug 29 21:35
schestowitzhe's c collegaue of MS florian nowAug 29 21:35
ender_2600they arent snakesAug 29 21:35
*iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.)Aug 29 21:35
schestowitzI knew people who were like snakes :-)Aug 29 21:36
schestowitzAnd people said, "this guy is a snake" :-)Aug 29 21:36
schestowitzThey had feetAug 29 21:36
MinceRhttp://www.evilbible.com/Aug 29 21:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Evil Bible Home Page .::. Size~: 13.8 KBAug 29 21:36
MinceRbehold, the basis of all moralityAug 29 21:36
schestowitzyou misspelled mortalityAug 29 21:37
MinceRaccording to some cultists, at leastAug 29 21:37
neighborleeNumerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. Aug 29 21:37
schestowitzyes, it's smokeAug 29 21:37
MinceR:>Aug 29 21:37
schestowitzsmoke grassAug 29 21:37
schestowitzSame effectAug 29 21:37
schestowitzSmoke carrots..Aug 29 21:37
neighborleeMarijuana increases heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drugAug 29 21:38
schestowitzheck, smoke your own skin on fire...carcinogensAug 29 21:38
neighborleelovely visual ;)Aug 29 21:38
ender_2600neighborlee - we don't give a shit about US government disinfoAug 29 21:38
schestowitzif you insistAug 29 21:38
neighborleeender_2600, prove itAug 29 21:38
MinceRneighborlee: yes, all drugs are harmfulAug 29 21:38
schestowitzaspirin tooAug 29 21:39
ender_2600I don't want to spam the channel with links to other studies from other countries that don't say what you areAug 29 21:39
MinceRwhy not treat people like adults and let them decide for themselves?Aug 29 21:39
neighborleeender_2600, wimpAug 29 21:39
ender_2600look up a source that isn't the united states governmentAug 29 21:39
schestowitzlampAug 29 21:39
neighborleeender_2600, can't take the heat , get  OUT of kitchenAug 29 21:39
ender_2600look up the aussie studiesAug 29 21:39
ender_2600LOLAug 29 21:39
schestowitzwindows/iis/mysql/phpAug 29 21:39
schestowitz!google david nuttAug 29 21:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - David Nutt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_NuttAug 29 21:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - David Nutt: Governments should get real on drugs - opinion - 04 ... | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18099-david-nutt-governments-should-get-real-on-drugs.htmlAug 29 21:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Government drug adviser David Nutt sacked | Politics | guardian.co.uk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/30/drugs-adviser-david-nutt-sackedAug 29 21:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - David Nutt: Alcohol More Dangerous Than Crack - HealthPop - CBS ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20021311-10391704.htmlAug 29 21:40
ender_2600neighborlee - your government still says marijuana has no medical purposeAug 29 21:40
ender_2600Canada has medicinal marijuana and has used studies to enact that policyAug 29 21:41
neighborleehttp://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/marijuana.htmlAug 29 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marijuana Said to Trigger Heart Attacks .::. Size~: 10.32 KBAug 29 21:41
schestowitzit's the same oneAug 29 21:41
ender_2600harvardAug 29 21:41
schestowitzwhy call it medical marijuana ?Aug 29 21:41
ender_2600suspect tooAug 29 21:41
schestowitzIt's like "legit pr0n"Aug 29 21:41
ender_2600show some non-us studies neighborleeAug 29 21:41
ender_2600I dare youAug 29 21:41
schestowitzor "gentlemen's boxing match"Aug 29 21:42
neighborleeLOLAug 29 21:42
neighborleesorry harvard isn't good enough ;)Aug 29 21:42
schestowitzall drugs are harmfulAug 29 21:42
schestowitzBut..Aug 29 21:42
ender_2600why is nature against the law?Aug 29 21:42
neighborleemuch of EU doesnt' even allow it entirely..so lets not go thereAug 29 21:42
schestowitzyou can probably find stuidies from harvard medical school about alcoholAug 29 21:42
schestowitzAnd these too will have mortality rates and the likeAug 29 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US Emb: rights deteriorated under #Honduras coup regime. Yet State Dept never decried it #wlfind http://t.co/H0JhAgEAug 29 21:43
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neighborleeswitzerland forone as I recall,has a 4 step process of kicking drugs ?Aug 29 21:43
ender_2600LOLz http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/fitness/exercise/fitness-trends/ganja-yoga-combines-marijuana-and-meditation/article1700170/Aug 29 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ganja yoga combines marijuana and meditation - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 99.75 KBAug 29 21:43
ender_2600http://www.joint-rolling-guide.com/marijuana-myths-and-facts.htmlAug 29 21:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marijuana Myths & Facts .::. Size~: 58.38 KBAug 29 21:45
ender_2600gotta love that URLAug 29 21:45
ender_2600hahahaAug 29 21:45
schestowitzlolAug 29 21:45
*schestowitz still lolingAug 29 21:45
ender_2600As early as 1972 The National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been heavily overstated.Aug 29 21:46
ender_2600In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research, editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to the health."Aug 29 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fallout New Vegas on very hard setting is not easy.Aug 29 21:46
ender_2600"Don.t be intimidated by those websites who claim that you will end up like a retard or a house plant if you smoke some marijuana. The effects and side effects of marijuana aren.t that hyped up like all these websites are claiming. Try and judge it yourself!"Aug 29 21:47
ender_2600Neighborlee - did it turn you into a retarded house plant?Aug 29 21:48
schestowitzwell, it's harmfulAug 29 21:48
schestowitzBut not as much as some other stuff that's legalAug 29 21:48
schestowitzit does have adverse effec6tsAug 29 21:48
ender_2600yeah for sureAug 29 21:48
ender_2600the site does list themAug 29 21:48
schestowitzAnd these are being exaggerated by the powers/status quAug 29 21:48
schestowitz*quoAug 29 21:48
ender_2600those are the more accurate ones I actually see in my friendsAug 29 21:48
neighborleeender_2600, ? LOLAug 29 21:48
MinceR224820 < schestowitz> why call it medical marijuana ?Aug 29 21:48
MinceRperhaps for the same reason they use morphineAug 29 21:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/108272466501177344Aug 29 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz well something that doesn't use much more than 30W of power would be niceAug 29 21:49
neighborleeender_2600, Idont smoke MJ if thats what your asking..haven't for tons of yearsAug 29 21:49
schestowitzMinceR: LOL yeah..Aug 29 21:49
ender_2600neighborlee - so it did all those things you claim, to you?Aug 29 21:49
schestowitzbutdrug dealers can't call it thatAug 29 21:49
schestowitzit would pollute the nameAug 29 21:49
neighborleeender_2600, i'd never do it again either...I never liked the 'low's near end of it all..very disturbingAug 29 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @edwyplenel: Affaire Takieddine: nos documents sont en accès libre sur notre site FrenchLeaks. Mediapart, partenaire de WikiLeaks. ht ...Aug 29 21:49
ender_2600lows?Aug 29 21:49
ender_2600weren't you smoking crack then?Aug 29 21:50
ender_2600it was probably laced with crackAug 29 21:50
ender_2600LOLAug 29 21:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/slashdot/status/108277565067767808Aug 29 21:50
TechrightsBot-tr@slashdot: Gut Bacteria Exert Mind Control http://t.co/y0UDHWmAug 29 21:50
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neighborleeender_2600, ok..crack..your a REAL case study in how not to actAug 29 21:50
neighborleeender_2600, are you like 10years old or something ?Aug 29 21:51
ender_2600thank youAug 29 21:51
neighborleeywAug 29 21:51
ender_2600no i'm not 10 years oldAug 29 21:51
neighborleeyes, you areAug 29 21:51
ender_2600do I have to be to suggest that you were smoking more than just MJ?Aug 29 21:51
ender_2600MJ doesn't do thatAug 29 21:51
neighborleeweren't you smoking crack then?Aug 29 21:51
ender_2600if it was a long time ago, perhaps during the 60s,70s or 80s it might have been commonAug 29 21:52
neighborleeit did this every single time fo rmeAug 29 21:52
ender_2600you were probably mixing it up with acidAug 29 21:52
neighborleeoh..so now its acid ;)Aug 29 21:52
ender_2600its gotta be more than just MJAug 29 21:52
MinceR"Somewhere, there are two kids in a garage building a company whose motto will be "Don't be Google"."Aug 29 21:53
neighborleeyou are positive proof of someone PUSHING drugs/MJ , and acting like a total foolAug 29 21:53
neighborleeyeah team!!Aug 29 21:53
schestowitzMinceR: LOLAug 29 21:53
ender_2600I'm not the one pushing US government propaganda and thinking it's fact.Aug 29 21:53
neighborleeOH sonow its just the gov!Aug 29 21:54
neighborleeforget about the harvard url I showed youAug 29 21:54
neighborleeyour a joke.Aug 29 21:54
ender_2600harvard receives money from the government to do those studiesAug 29 21:54
ender_2600durrrrrAug 29 21:54
schestowitzyou're?Aug 29 21:54
neighborleeLOLAug 29 21:54
ender_2600derp derp derpAug 29 21:54
neighborleeprove itAug 29 21:54
MinceRhis A-jokeAug 29 21:54
neighborleehe'sAug 29 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A Guardian journalist (David Leigh), and his underling's tawdry vendetta against WikiLeaks http://t.co/jgUaC6NAug 29 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Time Zone Appropriate Greetings !IdentiverseAug 29 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Somewhere, there are two kids in a garage building a company whose motto will be "Don't be Google"." (unattributed)Aug 29 21:54
neighborleedurrrrrrrrrrrrAug 29 21:54
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schestowitzhis a EngrishAug 29 21:54
MinceRschestowitz: source >> http://botgirl.blogspot.com/2011/08/executive-chairman-eric-schidt-admits.html?showComment=1314459245940#c7744671925115289782Aug 29 21:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Botgirl's Second Life Diary: Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt admits Google+ is Essentially a Trojan Horse (Identity Platform) .::. Size~: 125.08 KBAug 29 21:55
ender_2600what school doesn't receive government money to push propagandaAug 29 21:55
ender_2600heres a hint: noneAug 29 21:55
neighborleeschestowitz, so now , your also a word cop is that it ?Aug 29 21:55
neighborleeschestowitz, how high minded of you ;)Aug 29 21:55
ender_2600neighborlee - what are you, the cops?Aug 29 21:55
schestowitzender_2600: churches get tax exemptionsAug 29 21:55
schestowitzspiritual placesAug 29 21:55
schestowitzfree mental careAug 29 21:55
ender_2600yeahAug 29 21:55
neighborleeender_2600, SO sorry , that facts are inconvenient to you ;)Aug 29 21:55
ender_2600they should tax churchesAug 29 21:55
ender_2600neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't factAug 29 21:56
neighborleeprove itAug 29 21:56
neighborleeI dare ya.Aug 29 21:56
schestowitzliike all businessesAug 29 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Now !reading Arthur Conan Doyle's "A Study in Scarlet" !books !epub How that whole #Sherlock_Holmes thing startedAug 29 21:56
ender_2600prove whatAug 29 21:56
ender_2600why should I be doing your homework for you?Aug 29 21:57
ender_2600you should be fact checking your own info before spewing bullshitAug 29 21:57
neighborleeyour words, not mine.Aug 29 21:57
neighborlee<ender_2600> neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't fact < prove it.Aug 29 21:57
neighborleeyour words, not mine.Aug 29 21:57
ender_2600how do I prove a negative?Aug 29 21:57
ender_2600its your burden to prove its trueAug 29 21:57
neighborleeits your statement..DEAL with it ;)Aug 29 21:57
neighborleewimp!Aug 29 21:57
ender_2600now you're gonna call me names?Aug 29 21:58
neighborleeok, how about liarAug 29 21:58
ender_2600because you can't prove your claims?Aug 29 21:58
neighborleeyou said,now you can't back it upAug 29 21:58
ender_2600how old are *you* ?Aug 29 21:59
neighborleeright back at ya babyAug 29 21:59
neighborlee<ender_2600> neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't factAug 29 21:59
ender_2600you're the one claiming all sorts of nonsense without backing it upAug 29 21:59
MinceRWindow, Icon, Menu, Pointing deviceAug 29 21:59
neighborleeprove itAug 29 21:59
neighborlee<ender_2600> neighborlee - I know your propaganda isn't factAug 29 21:59
neighborleeprove itAug 29 21:59
ender_2600LOLAug 29 21:59
ender_2600I didAug 29 21:59
neighborleewaiting....Aug 29 21:59
neighborleewhereAug 29 21:59
ender_2600http://www.joint-rolling-guide.com/marijuana-myths-and-facts.htmlAug 29 22:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marijuana Myths & Facts .::. Size~: 58.38 KBAug 29 22:00
neighborleeender_2600, LOL..how juvenileAug 29 22:00
neighborleeender_2600, typical.Aug 29 22:00
ender_2600typical?Aug 29 22:00
neighborleeIm done with this juvenile conversation.Aug 29 22:00
ender_2600juvenile?Aug 29 22:00
neighborleeI did not stutter.Aug 29 22:00
ender_2600'talk to the hand'Aug 29 22:00
neighborleefine.Aug 29 22:00
neighborleelolAug 29 22:00
ender_2600dumbassAug 29 22:00
neighborleeOHHH big wordsAug 29 22:00
neighborleehelp me mommyAug 29 22:01
ender_2600heres a religious one for youAug 29 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at #Mandriva Linux 2011 http://ur1.ca/4zhjt http://ur1.ca/4zhjvAug 29 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've been working hard to make up for all the time spent on the weekend family barbeque: http://ur1.ca/4zhjyAug 29 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 135.66 KBAug 29 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva Linux 2011.0 Released | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 53.38 KBAug 29 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20110829T205801-kq9lay8.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.37 KBAug 29 22:01
ender_2600<juvenile>when God said 'let there be light' he asked your mom to move her fat ass</juvenile>Aug 29 22:01
ender_2600were you able to process thatAug 29 22:01
neighborleeprocess what ?Aug 29 22:01
ender_2600was it juvenile enough for youAug 29 22:01
neighborleeI see nothing of substances from youAug 29 22:02
neighborleeExcuse me ?Aug 29 22:02
MinceRlolAug 29 22:02
neighborleeSorry, I still see nothing of any substances.. ;)Aug 29 22:02
MinceRender_2600: he couldn't process it, be more juvenileAug 29 22:02
neighborleeMOving right alongAug 29 22:02
neighborleeschestowitz, great channel..:)Aug 29 22:02
neighborleeMOving right along--0Aug 29 22:02
*neighborlee (~neighborl@unaffiliated/neighborlee) has left #techrights ("Leaving")Aug 29 22:02
MinceRdamn, show's overAug 29 22:03
ender_26004 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the gays from the straights.Aug 29 22:03
MinceRlolAug 29 22:03
ender_2600lol hes still onlineAug 29 22:04
schestowitz:-)Aug 29 22:04
ender_2600i just msged him saying hes a dumbassAug 29 22:04
schestowitzmaybe playing with his pet dogAug 29 22:04
schestowitzanyway, he was helping against monoAug 29 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ms. Bachmann claims earthquake/hurricane a message from god? Which fundamentalists are we supposed to be afraid of again? #FacePalmAug 29 22:04
ender_2600ROFLAug 29 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Masked Protesters Aid Time Warner’s Bottom Line http://ur1.ca/4zhke that was predictable :-)Aug 29 22:04
schestowitzSo I remember his positively for thatAug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <ender_2600> dumbassAug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> stalkingAug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> illlegalAug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> #freenode shall know about this.Aug 29 22:04
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Aug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> I did not push you to do thisAug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> too bad.Aug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <ender_2600> go for itAug 29 22:04
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> enjoy:)Aug 29 22:04
MinceRhttp://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Aug 29 22:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Skeptic's Annotated Bible / Quran / Book of Mormon .::. Size~: 19.93 KBAug 29 22:05
schestowitzLOLAug 29 22:05
schestowitzhe won't do a thingAug 29 22:05
MinceRLOLAug 29 22:05
MinceR"stalking"Aug 29 22:05
schestowitzheheAug 29 22:05
schestowitzaka "IM"Aug 29 22:05
schestowitzor DMAug 29 22:05
MinceRor PMAug 29 22:05
MinceRhttp://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htmAug 29 22:05
schestowitzit's him who came to a channel ender has been in for YEARSAug 29 22:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Homosexuality in the Bible .::. Size~: 33.3 KBAug 29 22:05
schestowitzif anyone could stalk here... it's not enderAug 29 22:06
schestowitzanyhoo...Aug 29 22:06
ender_2600lolAug 29 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I don't see what I should bother to promote works that the creators don't want promoted.Aug 29 22:06
ender_2600I went into #freenode and said he was trollingAug 29 22:06
schestowitzMinceR: do we really still need to discuss this thing about lost scrolls written by primitive men?Aug 29 22:06
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> I am. RIGHT NowAug 29 22:06
ender_260017:55 <neighborlee> see me in the channel ?Aug 29 22:06
ender_260017:56 <neighborlee> yup , thats me..and you are reported for stalkingAug 29 22:06
MinceRi guess not, unless it's funnyAug 29 22:06
schestowitzI think #freenode will be funny nowAug 29 22:07
MinceRsadly, i couldn't find the Demolition Man quote about salt being harmful and therefore illegalAug 29 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCOracle Wants An End To Open Source http://ur1.ca/4zhkxAug 29 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's biggest enemy? #VMware http://ur1.ca/4zhl7Aug 29 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Oracle Wants An End To Open Source Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log. .::. Size~: 92.66 KBAug 29 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat's biggest enemy? VMware | ZDNet .::. Size~: 113.98 KBAug 29 22:11
schestowitzMinceR: I think I recall thatAug 29 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very funny thing happening today in #freenode - someone who entered #techrights decided that direct message="stalking". Trolls abound again.Aug 29 22:13
schestowitzSanda explained that to the thugster, Stallone, IIRCAug 29 22:13
schestowitz*SandraAug 29 22:13
schestowitzBTW..Aug 29 22:13
schestowitzI checked Stallone's bio in wikipediaAug 29 22:13
schestowitzThey brushed out all him past beating up people for lendersAug 29 22:13
schestowitzAmazing how people can make truth just vanishAug 29 22:13
schestowitzMaybe his PR firmsAug 29 22:13
MinceRi couldn't recall it exactlyAug 29 22:14
*DDRP (~overlord@109.224.198.82) has joined #techrightsAug 29 22:14
MinceReven though it would have fit the cultist troll's stance on drugs pretty well :>Aug 29 22:14
schestowitzhttp://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/08/linux-ipad/Aug 29 22:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux spotted running on an iPad | Ubergizmo .::. Size~: 23.83 KBAug 29 22:15
schestowitzhello DDRPAug 29 22:15
DDRPGreetingsAug 29 22:15
schestowitznew around here?Aug 29 22:15
ender_2600is that an anagram for DERP?Aug 29 22:15
DDRPYes.  No, I'm palmerv0rAug 29 22:15
MinceRit's better to buy good quality hardware in the first placeAug 29 22:16
schestowitzHi palmerAug 29 22:16
MinceRender_2600: no, it has no "E" in itAug 29 22:16
DDRPI read your Tweet and thought I'd be nosey Aug 29 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] try Eric Swett's #postapocalyptic "Alone" (part 69) http://ur1.ca/4zhih... or you can start at the beginning: http://ur1.ca/4zhlg !SelfPubAug 29 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBAug 29 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alone:  Part One | My Writer's Cramp .::. Size~: 73.32 KBAug 29 22:16
ender_2600I wanted one of those firesale touchpadAug 29 22:16
schestowitzDDRP: sure, go aheadAug 29 22:16
ender_2600mincer E can be a DAug 29 22:16
schestowitzWell, there was some guy here who argued with ender_2600Aug 29 22:16
schestowitzHe left in angerAug 29 22:16
MinceRender_2600: huh?Aug 29 22:16
schestowitzThen ender_2600 DMed himAug 29 22:17
ender_2600then accused me of stalking himAug 29 22:17
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ender_260017:56 <neighborlee> yup , thats me..and you are reported for stalkingAug 29 22:17
ender_260018:02 <neighborlee> even if I can't find a OP right now..They will return soonAug 29 22:17
ender_2600                    enough..and when they do.TRUST ME , you are on report forAug 29 22:17
ender_2600                    stalking/abuse..have a great day , wont you ;)Aug 29 22:17
ThistleWebhe has a magnetic personalityAug 29 22:17
Diablo-D3cant we just ban him?Aug 29 22:18
ender_2600thistleweb, hows that interpol report goingAug 29 22:18
Diablo-D3and ender_2600 too?Aug 29 22:18
MinceRDiablo-D3: i wish we couldAug 29 22:18
MinceRi don't know what our policy regarding trolls isAug 29 22:18
ender_2600im not a trollAug 29 22:18
Diablo-D3well, they let Roy hereAug 29 22:18
Diablo-D3soAug 29 22:18
*Diablo-D3 runsAug 29 22:18
MinceRyes you areAug 29 22:18
schestowitzMinceR practically could, but only repeat trolls are ever treated this severelyAug 29 22:18
MinceRDiablo-D3: they also let you hereAug 29 22:18
schestowitzlike "snit"Aug 29 22:18
ender_2600if "i'm" a troll, so are all of youAug 29 22:18
MinceRschestowitz: and "yuhong"?Aug 29 22:18
Diablo-D3MinceR: I dont troll that much anymoreAug 29 22:18
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I'm channel adminAug 29 22:18
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MinceRender_2600: that's not how it worksAug 29 22:19
MinceRDiablo-D3: well, you don't talk much anymore :>Aug 29 22:19
schestowitzMinceR: he was never bannedAug 29 22:19
MinceRschestowitz: my point exactlyAug 29 22:19
ender_2600mincer - it is when there is no centralized topic of discussionAug 29 22:19
schestowitzhe's inactive in just about everythingAug 29 22:19
schestowitzHe used to have MSN SpaceAug 29 22:19
schestowitzIIRCAug 29 22:19
Diablo-D3MinceR: mehAug 29 22:19
ender_2600everything anyone says could be considered trolling to someone elseAug 29 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hey Interwebs: there's a new acronym in town: TZAG (for "Time Zone Appropriate Greetings") a perfect netizen greeting (coined by satipera)Aug 29 22:19
schestowitzalso twitter account, other web presence where he trolled with pro-Microsoft marketing one-linersAug 29 22:19
ender_2600twitter accounts dont make you badAug 29 22:20
schestowitzender_2600: usually it's the FOSS issues du jourAug 29 22:20
schestowitzNowadays lots about patents being used offensivelyAug 29 22:20
ender_2600in a discussion there are more than one point of viewAug 29 22:20
ender_2600otherwise its a cultAug 29 22:20
schestowitzIIRC, yuhoung did get banned in 2008, Homer banned himAug 29 22:21
MinceRender_2600: it isn't about points of viewAug 29 22:21
DDRPI think I am being trolled by somebody at work, I've called them a brown-noser.  Probably not wise but blehAug 29 22:21
MinceRit's about offensive behavior for the sake of being offensiveAug 29 22:21
schestowitzhe was promoting vista nonstop here, buzz marketingAug 29 22:21
ender_2600yeah but i'm not outputing offensive behavior just to piss people offAug 29 22:21
ender_2600I have strong opinions and I express them regardless of who you areAug 29 22:21
MinceRdoesn't look like that to meAug 29 22:21
schestowitzDDRP: yes, work politics are tough, esp. when one shares physical spaceAug 29 22:22
*DDRP has strong opinionsAug 29 22:22
ender_2600mincer - you and I had a civil discussion yesterday about how much outlook sucksAug 29 22:22
schestowitzand people start gossiping about colleagues.. with other colleagues. I never liked that too much, and besides... I had to shave every. bloody. day. :-)Aug 29 22:22
schestowitzDDRP: strong="non conformist"Aug 29 22:23
DDRPShaving?  Waste of timeAug 29 22:23
MinceRender_2600: you also behaved in less civil ways at other timesAug 29 22:23
schestowitzDDRP: yeahAug 29 22:23
ender_2600mincer - was I a troll when I first joined this channel?Aug 29 22:23
schestowitzunless you can read at the same time :-)Aug 29 22:23
ender_2600sometimes im just more bluntAug 29 22:23
DDRPI'm a fan of Stallman, that's why I have a serious beardAug 29 22:24
ender_2600its not that im trying to start fightsAug 29 22:24
schestowitzender_2600: you were more conformist when you joinedAug 29 22:24
schestowitzIIRC it was around the time the ACCESS troll was harrassing us both and issuing threatsAug 29 22:24
ender_2600yeahAug 29 22:24
MinceRender_2600: i don't rememberAug 29 22:24
ThistleWebthis reminds me of the cupboard opening and lots of stuff falling out, the solution being to simply force all the same stuff back into the cupboard and fight to close the door without ever wondering why it's happeningAug 29 22:24
ender_2600now im a 'troll' because im not conformingAug 29 22:24
schestowitzDDRP: John maddog hall has a much more deadly beard than RMS'Aug 29 22:25
ender_2600my opinion deviated from FOSS extremism to pragmatismAug 29 22:25
MinceRender_2600: calling free software and the FSF "communism" just to be offensive is not just "not conforming"Aug 29 22:25
ender_2600it wasn't to be offensiveAug 29 22:25
schestowitzRMS used to have a much longer beard, he trimmed it some years ago.Aug 29 22:25
ender_2600that was my opinionAug 29 22:25
DDRPAlan Cox++;Aug 29 22:25
schestowitzHe's in Intel nowAug 29 22:25
schestowitzServing a monopolyAug 29 22:25
schestowitzhe used to helop red hat the underdogAug 29 22:25
ender_2600it did seem like communism but thats only because of the extremists who push RMS's ideas to unrealistic heightsAug 29 22:26
schestowitzIntel is polluted by snobs who work thereAug 29 22:26
DDRPRedhat has moved away from FOSS.... at $job we've abandoned that and moved to DebianAug 29 22:26
Diablo-D3maddog's beard is angrierAug 29 22:26
schestowitzIf you meet a few, you will know and see...Aug 29 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 3.0.4 http://lwn.net/Articles/456771/rssAug 29 22:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stable kernel 3.0.4 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.5 KBAug 29 22:26
schestowitzDDRP: kvm is red hatAug 29 22:26
DDRPTrueAug 29 22:26
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/red-hats-biggest-enemy-vmware/9468Aug 29 22:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat's biggest enemy? VMware | ZDNet .::. Size~: 111.48 KBAug 29 22:26
Diablo-D3kvm is not entirely redhatAug 29 22:26
DDRPBetter than VMware thoughAug 29 22:26
Diablo-D3it has a lot of community supportAug 29 22:26
Diablo-D3its still shit thoughAug 29 22:26
schestowitzI installed Debian on my server this monthAug 29 22:26
Diablo-D3xen > kvmAug 29 22:26
ender_2600nahAug 29 22:26
ender_2600xen is shitAug 29 22:27
ender_2600case study: is this trolling or disagreementAug 29 22:27
Diablo-D3^ proof ender_2600 is a troll.Aug 29 22:27
ender_2600LOLAug 29 22:27
Diablo-D3goddamnit.Aug 29 22:27
DDRPXen's problem has been lack of merging with the mainstream kernelAug 29 22:27
schestowitzdom0Aug 29 22:27
ender_2600Xen's problem is that you need to know what dom0 meansAug 29 22:27
schestowitzdoesn'e 3.0 or 2.6.39 integrate xen support?Aug 29 22:28
MinceRDDRP: funny, because now debian is pushing mono and red hat isn't pushing itAug 29 22:28
ender_2600I should just be able to plug in any OSAug 29 22:28
schestowitz!google xen support in linux 3.0Aug 29 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Xen celebrates full Dom0 and DomU support in Linux 3.0 – blog.xen ... | http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2011/06/02/xen-celebrates-full-dom0-and-domu-support-in-linux-3-0/Aug 29 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linux 3.0 – How did we get initial domain (dom0) support there - Xen | http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2011/06/14/linux-3-0-how-did-we-get-initial-domain-dom0-support-there/Aug 29 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Welcome to xen.org, home of the Xen® hypervisor, the powerful ... | http://xen.org/Aug 29 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linux 3.0 Will Have Full Xen Support - Slashdot | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/06/03/0328206/Linux-30-Will-Have-Full-Xen-SupportAug 29 22:28
DDRPMono?  Aren't M$ giving up on .Net anyway?Aug 29 22:28
ender_2600DDRP - yesAug 29 22:28
schestowitzMinceR: debian has lower risk of being sued by Microsoft's patent cartelAug 29 22:28
ender_2600we still need to fear Mono, even in Canada where they have no patentAug 29 22:28
DDRPT schestowitz that's interesting.  I wasn't aware of thatAug 29 22:28
MinceRschestowitz: what about its users though?Aug 29 22:29
schestowitzmicrobauer and directhex were pushing mono into debianAug 29 22:29
ender_2600I should start a company in Canada called FirefoxAug 29 22:29
schestowitzender_2600: does anyone really file for patents in canada and not the US?Aug 29 22:29
ender_2600schestowitz - yes, and vice versaAug 29 22:30
ender_2600schestowitz - the US has the invention secrecy actAug 29 22:30
schestowitzender_2600: http://i.imgur.com/DytDI.gifAug 29 22:30
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ender_2600they can steal your invention and gag you under 'national security'Aug 29 22:30
schestowitzender_2600: you can maybe distribute and advetrtise this in canads only?Aug 29 22:30
schestowitzBTW, wasn't a Canadian behind creating firefox?Aug 29 22:31
ender_2600sureAug 29 22:31
schestowitzor whatever it was first called..Aug 29 22:31
DDRPWell, you need to know your master.  Surely you respect national security?Aug 29 22:31
ender_2600I could even have firefox.caAug 29 22:31
schestowitzFirebirdAug 29 22:31
schestowitzphoenix...Aug 29 22:31
DDRPGovernment makes the sun shine and the grass grow.  Why the hell shouldn't they steal your invention?Aug 29 22:31
ender_2600http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_ActAug 29 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Invention Secrecy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 25.52 KBAug 29 22:32
ender_2600I love that oneAug 29 22:32
ender_2600Anonymous pointed it outAug 29 22:32
ender_2600I acutally know someone who is a victim of this tooAug 29 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Sing your song. Dance your dance. Tell your tale." ~ Frank McCourt !q (via Sherri Patrick Mertens)Aug 29 22:33
ender_2600Patrick Mitch CluckAug 29 22:33
ender_2600Roy, I sent you his resumeAug 29 22:33
ender_2600We have his permission to leak that US pamphlet which proves that the US was hiding technology and breaking NATO treatyAug 29 22:33
Diablo-D3dude, just because I hid a time machine in my basement doesnt mean the US government knew about itAug 29 22:34
ender_2600"NO FORN" = no foreign nationalsAug 29 22:34
DaemonFCanything that is unclassified is sure to leak out anywayAug 29 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] TZAF Identi.ca (copyright laurelrusswurm) :-)Aug 29 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Honesty [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/oXCKq.gifAug 29 22:34
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DaemonFCwhy do they even bother with those classifications of unclassified documents?Aug 29 22:34
ender_2600i dont the real stuff leaksAug 29 22:35
ender_2600doubtAug 29 22:35
DaemonFCthe US government has made a lot of really bad IT decisionsAug 29 22:35
DaemonFCa lot of their websites malfunction constantlyAug 29 22:36
DaemonFCit's embarrassing Aug 29 22:36
ender_2600daemonfc - its more of a decoy than anythingAug 29 22:36
ender_2600a 'poster' as xkcd put itAug 29 22:37
DDRPYou mean like saying PGP is a munitions?Aug 29 22:37
schestowitz!google solidarity zimmerman pgpAug 29 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Why I Wrote PGP | http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.htmlAug 29 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Why do you need PGP? | http://www.pgpi.org/doc/whypgp/en/Aug 29 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Essay: Government Intervention Of The Internet | http://onlineessays.com/essays/tech/tech10.phpAug 29 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Freedom through Encryption | http://www.fff.org/freedom/0695d.aspAug 29 22:38
schestowitz!google schmidt privacy doing something you should not be doingAug 29 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google chief: Only miscreants worry about net privacy • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/07/schmidt_on_privacy/Aug 29 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google CEO: Secrets Are for Filthy People | http://gawker.com/5419271/google-ceo-secrets-are-for-filthy-peopleAug 29 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Google CEO On Privacy (VIDEO): 'If You Have Something You Don't ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/google-ceo-on-privacy-if_n_383105.htmlAug 29 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google CEO: if you want privacy, do you have something to hide ... | http://blogs.computerworld.com/15234/google_ceo_if_you_want_privacy_do_you_have_something_to_hideAug 29 22:39
DDRPUnfortunately it seems the people who think they should be open, because they have nothing to hide, are winning >=\Aug 29 22:39
schestowitzIt depends what they openAug 29 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @FWMReporter: Cable describes Israeli view of #Gaza, #WestBank in 2007... #wlfind http://t.co/iwwkos8Aug 29 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Government" OED. The practice of keeping the rich rich. !capitalismAug 29 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 29 22:39
schestowitzThere is the 'faceboo' openAug 29 22:39
schestowitzLike a rectal examination into one's lifeAug 29 22:39
schestowitzAnd there is professional openAug 29 22:40
schestowitzWhere business conduct is kept transparentAug 29 22:40
DDRPMark Zuckerberg thinks privacy is deprecated, you're not saying he's wrong, are you?Aug 29 22:40
schestowitzGogle tracks people's surfing habitsAug 29 22:40
schestowitzI wouldn't suggest that politician's should have rsync cron job of their history.dat to a public_html somewhereAug 29 22:40
schestowitzThey don't need EVERYTHING loggedAug 29 22:40
schestowitzpoliticians do need to show ow decision-making comes about thoughAug 29 22:41
DDRPWhat politicians do should be a matter of public record.  What I do in my private life is nobody's businessAug 29 22:41
schestowitzWhen they surf the Web they might also look at things unrelated to their dutiesAug 29 22:41
DDRPThey are public servants, not 'officials'Aug 29 22:41
schestowitzBut they also have a private lifeAug 29 22:42
schestowitzA policeman asked me,whatb about if their wife is a politicianAug 29 22:42
schestowitzThat'sm where it gets trickyAug 29 22:42
DDRPYeah, I don't care whose wife they're having an affair with.  I care about what money they're embezzling Aug 29 22:42
schestowitzor pprotectingAug 29 22:44
schestowitzto get a portion back after their termAug 29 22:44
schestowitzor to get the job (revolving door)Aug 29 22:44
schestowitzthey swap power with money and vice versaAug 29 22:44
schestowitzIt's an exchange of interestAug 29 22:44
schestowitz!google mark taibi revolving doorsAug 29 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The S.E.C.'s Revolving Door: From Wall Street Lawyers to Wall ... | http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-s-e-c-s-revolving-door-from-wall-street-lawyers-to-wall-street-watchdogs-20110330Aug 29 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Revolving Door: FCC Commissioner Votes For Comcast/NBC ... | http://jonathanturley.org/2011/05/12/revolving-door-fcc-commissioner-votes-for-comcastnbc-merger-and-four-months-later-given-position-as-senior-vice-president-in-comcast-nbc/Aug 29 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - THE REVOLVING DOOR: 29 People Who Went From Wall Street To ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-washington-revolving-door-2011-4Aug 29 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - SEC criticized for file destruction- MSN Money | http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx%3Fpost%3Dfddcda65-57ad-40e1-bbb7-6693b863a823Aug 29 22:45
ender_260018:31 < DDRP> Mark Zuckerberg thinks privacy is deprecated, you're not saying he's wrong, are you?Aug 29 22:45
ender_260018:31 < schestowitz> Gogle tracks people's surfing habitsAug 29 22:45
ender_2600unless you're smart (www.i2p2.de)Aug 29 22:46
schestowitzit's not fastAug 29 22:46
DDRPI use www.startpage.com, they proxy you to Google over SSLAug 29 22:46
schestowitzyou can:Aug 29 22:46
schestowitznot use search enginesAug 29 22:46
schestowitzjust other servicesAug 29 22:46
schestowitzlogged offAug 29 22:46
schestowitzdisabled cookiesAug 29 22:46
schestowitzdisabled jsAug 29 22:46
schestowitzdisable/disallow google*, youtube*...Aug 29 22:47
schestowitzand thenAug 29 22:47
ender_2600nahAug 29 22:47
ender_2600thats not enoughAug 29 22:47
schestowitz!google oinion google pribvacyAug 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Hotspots: Second Life's New Controversies « Gwyn's Home | http://gwynethllewelyn.net/2007/05/10/hotspots-second-lifes-new-controversies/Aug 29 22:47
schestowitz!google onion google privacyAug 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google Opt Out Feature Lets Users Protect Privacy By ... - The Onion | http://www.theonion.com/video/google-opt-out-feature-lets-users-protect-privacy,14358/Aug 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google Responds To Privacy Concerns With Unsettlingly Specific ... | http://www.theonion.com/articles/google-responds-to-privacy-concerns-with-unsettlin,16891/Aug 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Onion: Google Responds To Privacy Concerns With Unsettlingly ... | http://boingboing.net/2010/03/02/onion-google-respond.htmlAug 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google Privacy Opt Out Announced Via The Onion | TechCrunch | http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/12/google-privacy-opt-out-announced-via-the-onion/Aug 29 22:47
ender_2600fuck googleAug 29 22:47
ender_2600DDGAug 29 22:47
ender_2600https://duckduckgo.comAug 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 4.33 KBAug 29 22:47
ender_2600has a tor exit node enclaveAug 29 22:48
ender_2600makes it fastAug 29 22:48
schestowitz!google techrights duck duck goAug 29 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DuckDuckGo: Another Front End to Microsoft for Some ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/07/19/to-microsoft-in-search/Aug 29 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Search | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/search/Aug 29 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: July 22nd, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/irc-log-techrights-22072011.htmlAug 29 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 28th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/irc-log-techrights-28012011.htmlAug 29 22:48
ender_2600yeah I see your overexaggerationAug 29 22:48
ender_2600its also google, and wolframAug 29 22:48
ender_2600and wikipediaAug 29 22:48
*amarsh04 (3a6ca1c4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.108.161.196) has joined #techrightsAug 29 22:48
ender_2600and blogsearchAug 29 22:48
ender_2600not just bingAug 29 22:48
schestowitzuse wikipedia where possibleAug 29 22:48
schestowitzI have it as deafult search bar in konqurorAug 29 22:48
MinceRi didn't see them mention google in their list of enginesAug 29 22:48
schestowitz*uerrorAug 29 22:48
amarsh04morning from Sydney airportAug 29 22:48
ender_2600i dontAug 29 22:48
ender_2600wikipedia is modifiable by anyoneAug 29 22:48
MinceRonly in the bang page, which are just redirectsAug 29 22:49
schestowitzamarsh04: morningAug 29 22:49
MinceRfor lack of better options, i use DDG and StartPageAug 29 22:49
schestowitzhow was Japan?Aug 29 22:49
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ender_2600I use i2p and DDGAug 29 22:49
schestowitzyou;e beign tracked so it makes senseAug 29 22:49
ender_2600everyone should be on i2pAug 29 22:50
schestowitzI remember when I asked PJ (Groklaw) why she would not use PGP enc. with meAug 29 22:50
ender_2600it would be impossible to track anyone thenAug 29 22:50
ender_2600it would be faster tooAug 29 22:50
schestowitzshe said it would draw inmore attentionAug 29 22:50
amarsh04customs and transfer inbound at Sydney was more confusing than Sydney transfer and outbound and more confusing than arrival at NaritaAug 29 22:50
schestowitzWell, that's what PGP is supposed to /prevent/Aug 29 22:50
schestowitzI don't mail some people cause they have hotmail accountsAug 29 22:50
ender_2600LOLAug 29 22:50
ender_2600well I dont want to hear people bark privacy and not use something to cover their tracksAug 29 22:51
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ender_2600at least TORAug 29 22:51
schestowitzVote for TORIESAug 29 22:51
DDRPPeople send me invites for Google+, Gmail etc.  I ignore it allAug 29 22:51
schestowitzys, same hereAug 29 22:52
schestowitzGoogle didn't have me opt-inAug 29 22:52
schestowitzIt sends them sparinglyAug 29 22:52
ender_2600schestowitz no it doesntAug 29 22:52
ender_2600your friends opt you inAug 29 22:52
amarsh04one also needs alternatives to wikipedia, it's pretty bad when something factual that you've manually added gets removed by someone who thinks that they are more superior than youAug 29 22:52
schestowitzIf it was a small company, ther federal agencies would shut it down and bankruipt the founderAug 29 22:52
ender_2600maybe you should get rid of your friendsAug 29 22:52
schestowitzas they already did with some company whose name I can't recallAug 29 22:52
schestowitzfor sending spurious mail to encourage  subsAug 29 22:53
ender_2600they tried with PGPAug 29 22:53
ender_2600LOLAug 29 22:53
schestowitzgoogle uses gmail as its excuse for spammingAug 29 22:53
schestowitzit built up peopel's address bookAug 29 22:53
schestowitzharvesting dataAug 29 22:53
ender_2600the owner released the guerilla version of PGPAug 29 22:53
amarsh04even if it's just locally mirroring what you've addedAug 29 22:53
schestowitzNow it uses it to justidy mass distribution of unwanted mal people tell me they 'sent' me _by accident_Aug 29 22:53
ender_2600schestowitz - i'd fear more about my privacy coming in here vs using googleAug 29 22:54
amarsh04anyway, should head off and let someone else use this.Aug 29 22:54
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ender_2600in fact roy perhaps you shouldnt even use your name onlineAug 29 22:54
schestowitzgoogle is not ircAug 29 22:54
schestowitzgoogle is now google.comAug 29 22:54
schestowitzgoogle is urchinAug 29 22:54
schestowitzit's outubeAug 29 22:54
ender_2600anything your name is tied to is being harvestedAug 29 22:54
schestowitzwhich load up when you visit pagesAug 29 22:54
DDRPDespite my best efforts, my old Pater has moved to Gmail, away from my server.  I told them they read his email but it makes no difference.  It just means I don't email him any more, I use the phoneAug 29 22:54
ender_2600google gets your irc logsAug 29 22:55
schestowitzsame with the "like"buttom of GB and the likes of thatAug 29 22:55
schestowitzThey track youAug 29 22:55
ender_2600they track you anywaysAug 29 22:55
schestowitzEven if you don't use Chrome or have a pagerank-using extensionAug 29 22:55
ender_2600i2p or shutup about trackingAug 29 22:55
ender_2600its a problem that has been solved by the communityAug 29 22:55
ender_2600not whining to the governmentAug 29 22:55
DDRPI don't call to the government, they are not the saviour Aug 29 22:56
schestowitz!google andre google analytics eu commissionAug 29 22:56
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - German Govt. Says Google Analytics Now Verboten | http://searchengineland.com/german-govt-says-google-analytics-now-verboten-61109Aug 29 22:56
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IkonoKlash » | http://www.ikonoklash.com/Aug 29 22:56
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Video: The EU cookie law in 2.5 minutes - Andrew R H Girdwood | http://blog.arhg.net/2011/06/video-eu-cookie-law-in-25-minutes.htmlAug 29 22:56
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cookies Law: Ah the Irony! - Andrew Westgarth | http://www.andrewwestgarth.co.uk/blog/post/2011/05/23/Cookies-Law-Ah-the-Irony!.aspxAug 29 22:56
ender_2600I call to end governmentAug 29 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 1Z4F743V6892642150 is the magic number. Will it be tomorrow or wednesday? Argl.Aug 29 22:56
ender_2600:)Aug 29 22:56
MinceRalternatives to wikipedia really need to gain mindshareAug 29 22:56
DDRPT ender_2600 I'm surprised it's still legal to say thatAug 29 22:56
schestowitzDDRP: he gets harrassed for itAug 29 22:57
MinceRDDRP: if fascism continues to spread the way it did in the last few years, it will soon be illegalAug 29 22:57
DDRPIt will be, yesAug 29 22:57
DDRPThere's a law for everythingAug 29 22:57
schestowitzI listened to the oggcamp audio todayAug 29 22:57
schestowitzOne of the guys there said he came from a c9ommunist regime countryAug 29 22:57
schestowitzAnd they spoke about #ukriotsAug 29 22:58
schestowitzThen he said, in communism it's quietr int he sreetsAug 29 22:58
schestowitzBut not in a good wayAug 29 22:58
schestowitzPeople are scared to their boneAug 29 22:58
DDRPOggcamp?  I'll have ro look that upAug 29 22:58
schestowitzThe liberty means having to cope with some misuse of freedom, and tolerating it, tooAug 29 22:58
schestowitzthat was the ubuntu uk podcast and linux outlaws podcastAug 29 22:59
schestowitzhttp://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/Aug 29 22:59
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schestowitzep 224Aug 29 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A mate watched m/bike racing in the 6 counties. He bought a fleece that included an advert for a skip hire co. We took the piss mercilessly.Aug 29 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld || Vasco wouldn't comment || http://ping.fm/j6kT7Aug 29 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld || Vasco wouldn't comment ||Aug 29 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sorry for duplication thereAug 29 23:04
schestowitzender_2600: https://identi.ca/notice/82013850Aug 29 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 21:59:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that company already exists. it's called duckduckgo.com :)Aug 29 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !collect.kde.org is live! http://ur1.ca/4zhrp #kdeAug 29 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Open WiFi and Pirates: Why Copyright Negligence Won’t Fly (Torrent Freak): http://bit.ly/nmg9A1Aug 29 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TransferSummit: Innovation, commoditisation and value creation http://ur1.ca/4zhrz #odf #standardAug 29 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: aseigo: collect.kde.org is live! .::. Size~: 64.51 KBAug 29 23:09
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: TransferSummit: Innovation, commoditisation and value creation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.65 KBAug 29 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] As !Linux Moves Into a New Decade, Companies Look for Linux Talent | Linux.com http://ping.fm/xrzUDAug 29 23:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU Love [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4z98d !fsf #linuxAug 29 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: { :title => 'technotalk' } - Gnu Love .::. Size~: 10.79 KBAug 29 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] sun-java6 packages removed soon from Debian/Ubuntu (and all other #linux distros) http://ur1.ca/4zhsh Retiring the #DLJ http://ur1.ca/4zhsiAug 29 23:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A frog around the world - sun-java6 packages removed soon from Debian/Ubuntu (and all other linux distros) .::. Size~: 26.86 KBAug 29 23:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: burek for breakfast - Retiring the DLJ .::. Size~: 21.96 KBAug 29 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The life expectancy of people in countries that NATO wants to bomb to free market !capitalism are reduced.Aug 29 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] August has been the craziest tech month ever http://ur1.ca/4zhsu I don't agree at all. It has been reasonably quiet on all fronts.Aug 29 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 (part 1) http://ur1.ca/4zhsy #mozilla #mplAug 29 23:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: August has been the craziest tech month ever - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.59 KBAug 29 23:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 (part 1) | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.8 KBAug 29 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nouveau Fan Management Code Published http://ur1.ca/4zhtb for Fans of freedomAug 29 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Nouveau Fan Management Code Published .::. Size~: 17.98 KBAug 29 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple's & Microsoft's anti-social behaviour as of late (now more embargo attempts from Microsoft) validates @rms idea of proprietary ethicsAug 29 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When thinking of Apple, think of "better the devil I know than the one I don't know". Swapping proprietary masters is never the solution.Aug 29 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CyanogenMod Team Gets Android Working On HP #TouchPad http://ur1.ca/4zhu6 #hypepad too has been cracked open for #LinuxAug 29 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Without Jobs as CEO, Who Speaks for the Arts at Apple? (Wired): http://bit.ly/nW80o0Aug 29 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CyanogenMod Team Gets Android Working On HP TouchPad | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 50.12 KBAug 29 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Without Jobs as CEO, Who Speaks for the Arts at Apple? | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.17 KBAug 29 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rapid Releases: How Are They Working for Firefox and Thunderbird 6? http://ur1.ca/4zhu9 stay with 3.x versions till Mozilla comes to sensesAug 29 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I really had to LOL. #facepalm again. http://seldo.tumblr.com/post/9549775746/this-is-genuinely-microsofts-idea-of-aAug 29 23:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seldo's Tumblr, This is genuinely Microsoft’s idea of a... .::. Size~: 111.78 KBAug 29 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five Good Reasons to Try #Mandriva #Linux 2011 http://ur1.ca/4zhue good advocacy from the torch bearer @noyeskAug 29 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five Good Reasons to Try Mandriva Linux 2011 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 81.91 KBAug 29 23:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82016171Aug 29 23:33
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 22:28:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Blue icons are so cold.Aug 29 23:33
schestowitzwhich blue icons?Aug 29 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The hyped-up hurricane (Irene) has helped popularise the NY mayor, the government, FEMA, etc. It also helped training for future disasters.Aug 29 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VMware's PR people are really mass-mailing ("spamming"?) people today. The conference got them overenthusiastic. Please stop.Aug 29 23:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82016665Aug 29 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 22:33:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The one you are using at the moment.Aug 29 23:38
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/c/Aug 29 23:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schestowitz » Scientific Freedom .::. Size~: 19.68 KBAug 29 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cloud.com is not open source (ignore the fake news), it's open_washed_ just like Facebook..and "private clouds" don't exist (swimming birds)Aug 29 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a matter of 5 years, a lot of data that used to exist on people's machines (photos, documents, etc,) has magically moved to datacentresAug 29 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The honourable @rms is probably not exaggerating when he says that there is deliberate hype urging people to let loose their data (privacy)Aug 29 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Companies never store your data "for free". They have a business mode. Nobody is doing 'charity' by hosting stuff _for you_.Aug 29 23:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108305741051461632Aug 29 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: @schestowitz you're not wrong. I'm sticking with Iceweasel on Debian Squeeze for everything I canAug 29 23:46
schestowitzsqueeze uses 3.5.x for meAug 29 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VMware, a champion of proprietary software (run by former Microsoft execs), is 'spamming' feeds with "open source" keywords.What utter lies.Aug 29 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] In Unsettled Times, Media Can Be a Call to Action, or a Distraction http://ur1.ca/4zhwq #CounterEstablishmentAug 29 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $company will open-source its open-source ideas that will be open-sourced for the open source community in an open source spirit.Aug 29 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please contact us. No recriminations, just information.Aug 29 23:46
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Aug 29 23:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/82017707Aug 29 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 22:45:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz except birds can swim...Aug 29 23:47
schestowitzonly Linux? In a proper way.Aug 29 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after disabling #Linkdin email because of excess spam, it appears to have re-enabled itself to continue spamming, it's a fucking #BorgAug 29 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk only Linux? In a proper way.Aug 29 23:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/noyesk/status/108309598267645953Aug 29 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr@noyesk: @schestowitz Not too happy with Thunderbird 6. Are you really freezing?Aug 29 23:49
DaemonFChttp://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/25/304387/bernie-sanders-introduces-bill-to-lift-the-payroll-tax-cap-ensuring-full-social-security-funding-for-nearly-75-years/Aug 29 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bernie Sanders Introduces Bill To Lift The Payroll Tax Cap, Ensuring Full Social Security Funding For Nearly 75 Years  | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 32.16 KBAug 29 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] methinks it's time to delete the account rather than just disable email notifications, since they don't seem to respect that optionAug 29 23:49
schestowitzI'm staying with 3.1 for now. I use about 10 extensions, can't risk losing compatibility.Aug 29 23:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/abramh/status/108309701300731904\Aug 29 23:50
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Aug 29 23:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/abramh/status/108309701300731904Aug 29 23:50
TechrightsBot-tr@abramh: @schestowitz The future of FLOSS could be turnkey P2P solutions that consumers can host or pay to host. Let consumers pay for their privacy.Aug 29 23:50
schestowitzPay to host is different as they can control and move around their platform, e.g. wordpress in a homedirAug 29 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is open source fakers who have had many people fed up with the term "open source" http://ur1.ca/4zhxbAug 29 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] within minutes of being #spammed by #Linkedin despite me telling them not to, the account is now closedAug 29 23:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » I’m Almost Done with ”Open Source”. It Lost Its Way. .::. Size~: 34.81 KBAug 29 23:53
DaemonFChttps://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/27-1Aug 29 23:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution | Common Dreams .::. Size~: 117.39 KBAug 29 23:53
DaemonFCI don't use ThunderbirdAug 29 23:53
DaemonFCKMail has improved so I got rid of Thunderbird yesterdayAug 29 23:53
DaemonFCMozilla doesn't seem to care a whole hell of a lot what their software does to Linux users, and especially outside of UbuntuAug 29 23:54
schestowitzkmail looks good Aug 29 23:54
schestowitzBut I escaped itAug 29 23:54
DaemonFC(not just the platform, the desktop environment it defaults to)Aug 29 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people use 'cloud' to access someone's proprietary apps, some use it4hosting, some for capacity. For latter, google "wikileaks amazon"Aug 29 23:54
DaemonFCAMD and FGLRX seem to only care what Ubuntu and Compiz doAug 29 23:54
schestowitzthat's where I came to thunderbird 0.9 (IIRC) fromAug 29 23:54
DaemonFCa lot of influential software is only closely tracking UbuntuAug 29 23:55
schestowitzso use ubuntu for desktop?Aug 29 23:55
schestowitzI used thunderbird in SUSEAug 29 23:55
schestowitzworked okAug 29 23:55
DaemonFCif you want mandatory mono and can stand Unity I guessAug 29 23:55
schestowitz1.0 and 1.5 laterAug 29 23:55
schestowitz2.0 iirc came after I had dumped suse (novell deal with micfosoft)Aug 29 23:56
DaemonFCit still sucks to have all your choices taken away because of some idiots at Mozilla or AMDAug 29 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Broadcom's wireless drivers, one year later http://lwn.net/Articles/456762/rssAug 29 23:56
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DaemonFCthat's the harm done by letting companies just point to Ubuntu and telling you to use itAug 29 23:57
schestowitzfor c/c++, ubuntu gives me the least hassleAug 29 23:57
schestowitzI tried othersAug 29 23:57
DaemonFCit indirectly promotes Mono and BansheeAug 29 23:57
schestowitzfedora is ok until some pckage in the repos is brokenAug 29 23:57
DaemonFCand legitimizes whatever they're doing with Unity this weekAug 29 23:57
schestowitzyeahAug 29 23:57
schestowitzit's their frnt runnerAug 29 23:57
schestowitzflagship productAug 29 23:58
schestowitzotherwise ubuntu is Just Another GNOME 3.0 DistroAug 29 23:58
schestowitzThey paint unity with a "Unity" brushAug 29 23:58
DaemonFCthe whole reason for changing around GNOME in the first place was to make theirs "different"Aug 29 23:58
schestowitzmake it open source, but with CLAAug 29 23:58
schestowitzAnd then they can say they give back [to themselves]Aug 29 23:59
DaemonFCschestowitz: it's like the UNIX WarsAug 29 23:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: different is not always betterAug 29 23:59
DaemonFCanything to differentiate yourself and trap customers with your productAug 29 23:59
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schestowitzAndroid vendors do that tooAug 29 23:59

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