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schestowitzkids are like that tooAug 30 00:00
schestowitzSeeking ack from parents by distinguishing themselves. it's human naturAug 30 00:00
schestowitzto diversifyAug 30 00:00
schestowitzit makes you more immune to changeAug 30 00:00
schestowitzWhich is a good thingAug 30 00:00
DaemonFCI never figured out why Canonical pours soem resources into supporting other desktop environmentsAug 30 00:00
DaemonFCespecially when there seems to be no money to be made from themAug 30 00:00
schestowitzif there was just one disto, vendor and DE, Apple and Microsoft would have crushed us easilyAug 30 00:00
DaemonFCis it to just make  the base platform more popular?Aug 30 00:01
schestowitznoAug 30 00:01
schestowitzmobile devicesAug 30 00:01
schestowitzask onoAug 30 00:01
schestowitzhe claims (or spins) unity as unifying across form factorsAug 30 00:01
DaemonFCso where is their payoff in KubuntuAug 30 00:01
DaemonFCor Xubuntu, or LubuntuAug 30 00:01
schestowitzabsorbing userbaseAug 30 00:01
schestowitzdrying up the competitionAug 30 00:01
schestowitzimhoAug 30 00:02
DaemonFCthere's no self-promoting whorebars and bling anywhere Aug 30 00:02
schestowitzmaybe a mere side-effectAug 30 00:02
schestowitztrueAug 30 00:02
DaemonFCright, that's what I meant when I said making their base platform more popularAug 30 00:02
schestowitzwhich make kubuntu more than tolerableAug 30 00:02
DaemonFCthey want people to only bother packaging things for UbuntuAug 30 00:02
schestowitzyou foget it's even canonicalAug 30 00:02
schestowitzno ubuntu1, eitherAug 30 00:02
schestowitzjust a good repoAug 30 00:02
schestowitzmaybe they can rename .debAug 30 00:03
schestowitz.markAug 30 00:03
DaemonFCyeah, Kubuntu doesn't have a lot of advertising and Canonical paint jobs and so onAug 30 00:03
schestowitziceweasel.markAug 30 00:03
schestowitzkde has not been vandalised yetAug 30 00:03
schestowitzor bastardisedAug 30 00:03
DaemonFCMuon Software Center is moving in that directionAug 30 00:04
DaemonFCbut it doesn't have the payment platform and DRM yetAug 30 00:04
schestowitzyou make it sound imminent and inevitableAug 30 00:04
DaemonFCno, just likelyAug 30 00:04
DaemonFCtheir Ubuntu Software Center is already pretty monetized Aug 30 00:04
DaemonFCselling proprietary software and proprietary codec licensesAug 30 00:05
DaemonFCseems to me the entire point of replacing KPackageKit is to make room for an "app store" in KDEAug 30 00:06
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/108065934299774976Aug 30 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @godplusplus I guess CNET's Josh Lowensohn wil continue to report on important Lodsys events and the @EFF will continue its great work.Aug 30 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. Am I the last one that still uses the homepage functionality in Firefox? #wonderingAug 30 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] NEW !Identiverse Group: @x11r5 you should join !tzag /cc @expatpaul @psquid @eebrah @nj3ma @bigbrovar @jargon @chalkahlom @encyclomundiAug 30 00:06
schestowitzJosh is their new MS booster IIRCAug 30 00:06
schestowitzreplacing Ian/InaAug 30 00:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/noyesk/status/108311223661109248Aug 30 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr@noyesk: @schestowitz Yes, gotcha. Not sure what I'm going to do.Aug 30 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Please contact us. No recriminations, just information.Aug 30 00:08
schestowitzthe improvements in mozilla thunderbird have been most minor since around 1.5 (IIRC) when RSS support was addedAug 30 00:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108311299926134784Aug 30 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: @schestowitz no such thing as a "private cloud", it's an oxymoron. I keep having this argument with @dean_green it's a serious privacy issueAug 30 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir And you think you have a tough commute? flic.kr/p/aheRDiAug 30 00:09
schestowitzA "private cloud" might be just hardware with encryption keeping the physical maintainer out, but still, hardware can be robbed, rootedAug 30 00:10
schestowitzDDRP: https://twitter.com/abramh/status/108311756086054912Aug 30 00:10
TechrightsBot-tr@abramh: @schestowitz I'm waiting for a VPS-friendly web-based distro with package management for webmail, galleries, VPN, blogs, feeds, etc.Aug 30 00:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/108311905931767810Aug 30 00:11
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz @noyesk problem is, Firefox ext devs will soon lose patience with legacy support, so we'll lose them in the rush forward anywayAug 30 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @setcounter: US requested permission to transfer radioactive material from #Poland to the #Netherlands via #Germany http://t.co/wzGOP ...Aug 30 00:11
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundAug 30 00:11
schestowitzI've already migrated back to #konqueror as primary browser in #debian and #ubuntu - was my primary browser till 2004Aug 30 00:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/noyesk/status/108312205375713281Aug 30 00:12
TechrightsBot-tr@noyesk: @silner @schestowitz You feel confident that it's a rush forward? Not questioning, just asking.Aug 30 00:12
schestowitzIt's a version bump. They don't add many new features.Aug 30 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk re: group? If I used photoshop to make the !@[?xz% logo would have taken 30 seconds. Used GIMP & am happy to have vodka coolers handyAug 30 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Totally false that any WikiLeaks sources have been exposed or will be exposed. NYT drooling, senile, and evil. http://t.co/sl8FD6wAug 30 00:16
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DaemonFChttp://www.chron.com/news/article/Ind-Board-of-Education-OKs-takeovers-of-5-schools-2145635.phpAug 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ind. Board of Education OKs takeovers of 5 schools - Houston Chronicle .::. Size~: 61.63 KBAug 30 00:16
DaemonFCNow Mitch Daniels is selling our schools tooAug 30 00:16
schestowitzIndoctrination campsAug 30 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Oracle retires licence for distributing its #Java with #Linux http://ur1.ca/4zhzb #SCOracle also part of Apple/Microsoft patents cartel nowAug 30 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @gamerchick02 #tumblr: Photo http://ur1.ca/4zhzc ~ Ingrid Bergman ~ 29 August 1915 29 August 1982 #fabulous #actressAug 30 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @setcounter US requested permission to transfer radioactive material from #Poland to the #Netherlands via #Germany http://t.co/wzGOPyNAug 30 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk they know better than that :)Aug 30 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle retires licence for distributing its Java with Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.05 KBAug 30 00:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Totally false that any WikiLeaks sources have been exposed or will be exposed. NYT drooling, senile, and evil. http://t.c ...Aug 30 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wikileaks2 The New York Times is certainly not neutral re: !Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/4zhzl #bias #partisan #sad #thewatchdogpressisdeadAug 30 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Loses Control Over Diplo Cables, Exposes Sources - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 55.59 KBAug 30 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] According to German news magazine, Der Spiegel, based on an original report in Der Freitag..."~ #NYT !q http://ur1.ca/4zhzl !wl news sourcesAug 30 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Loses Control Over Diplo Cables, Exposes Sources - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 55.71 KBAug 30 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight @sandersch :)Aug 30 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 RT @setcounter: US requested permission to transfer radioactive material from #Poland to the #Netherlands via #Germany ht ...Aug 30 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony Brings Linux Tablets to the Market http://ur1.ca/4zhzt #sony #android #linuxAug 30 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony S2 Tablet is the Tablet P, Specs Continue to Leak › AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 32.54 KBAug 30 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @wikileaks Totally false that any WikiLeaks sources have been exposed or will be exposed. NYT drooling, senile, and evilAug 30 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb after disabling #Linkdin email because of excess spam, it appears to have re-enabled itself to continue spamming,Aug 30 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj Without Jobs as CEO, Who Speaks for the Arts at Apple? (Wired): http://bit.ly/nW80o0 << the k00k?Aug 30 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld || Vasco wouldn't comment || http://ping.fm/j6kT7Aug 30 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People should host their own mail at their own domain. It's neither hard nor expensive, it's a lot more powerful too.Aug 30 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Wikileaks cables shows Obama Administration role in lobbying EU to approve Oracle acquisition of Sun: http://wmk.me/pnZkiwAug 30 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Without Jobs as CEO, Who Speaks for the Arts at Apple? | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.52 KBAug 30 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hackers acquire Google certificate, could hijack Gmail accounts - Computerworld .::. Size~: 134.77 KBAug 30 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks cables shows Obama Administration role in lobbying EU to approve Oracle acquisition of MySQL and other Sun assets | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 31.09 KBAug 30 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lwnnet Stable kernel 3.0.4 http://ur1.ca/4zhooAug 30 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Ms. Bachmann claims earthquake/hurricane a message from god? Which fundamentalists are we supposed to be afraid of again?Aug 30 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stable kernels 3.0.4, 2.6.32.46, and 2.6.33.19 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.94 KBAug 30 00:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/noyesk/status/108316204992708609Aug 30 00:40
TechrightsBot-tr@noyesk: @schestowitz This one feels really different, though. Wishing we could stay put for longer these days...Aug 30 00:40
schestowitzE-mail protocols never really change, maildir and mbox stay the same too, unlike HTML4/5Aug 30 00:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/108316735320489985Aug 30 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: @schestowitz dropbox could have been considered private space within the cloud. We found out that was false.Aug 30 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @@eff Join EFF for "Patent Trolls and You: EFF Virtual Boot Camp for App Developers" https://eff.org/r.5BbAug 30 00:41
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schestowitzit's also PATRIOT-ACTedAug 30 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺schestowitz ♺ @eff Join EFF for "Patent Trolls and You: EFF Virtual Boot Camp for App Developers" https://eff.org/r.5BbAug 30 00:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz People should host their own mail at their own domain. It's neither hard nor expensive, it's a lot more powerful too.Aug 30 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "massive domestic spying abuses by FBI, CIA and NSA" http://www.cnss.org/fisa.htm #patriotact #spywareequivalent #spying #informationcentreAug 30 00:44
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schestowitzSome guy from seattle provokes.. https://twitter.com/ulander/status/108322397991612416Aug 30 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr@ulander: @schestowitz what?!? what is your def of OSS? here is the cloudstack code http://t.co/g5OLlvf and the GPL license http://t.co/RhcuJOmAug 30 00:45
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schestowitzwon't feedAug 30 00:45
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schestowitzWhile Citrix might own it, i bought Cloud.com. What did you do?Aug 30 00:45
schestowitzhttp://cloud.comAug 30 00:45
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schestowitzo)Aug 30 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Shell 3.1.90 http://lwn.net/Articles/456783/rssAug 30 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 One-Third Of Americans More Willing To Give Up Sex Than Their Mobile Phones: http://tinyurl.com/3ef7s3tAug 30 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: INFOGRAPHIC : One-Third Of Americans More Willing To Give Up Sex Than Their Mobile Phones .::. Size~: 36.36 KBAug 30 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: Most fascist-sounding security operation ever, Glad Tidings of Benevolence, by ISF killed a gov's secretary http://j.mp ...Aug 30 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bitly | shorten, share and track your links .::. Size~: 13.19 KBAug 30 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For some people, shaving is important. They spend hours per month shaving, forgetting they are judged by output that's unjudged visually.Aug 30 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shaving -- like braces -- is resistance to nature which never really makes it into our descendants' DNA. It only encouraged unwanted trait.Aug 30 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My general position is (regarding plastic surgery and other post-birth adjustments) is that they interfere with m-evolution that refines us.Aug 30 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @encyclomundi beautiful #photography by @lohang starry night? photoblog: http://ur1.ca/4zifxAug 30 00:58
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82023533Aug 30 00:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Baptist Redbloom (baptistredbloom)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 07:57:03 PHT - baptistredbloom: @schestowitz: In my case, I do it because the stubble irritates my chin. There are some times that I find it relaxing because I have to do it with focus. Unfocused, i usually end up with a bleeding chin.Aug 30 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People prefer to forget that our flaws are what define a person -- any person. Removing them makes us more alike, i.e. boring, non-unique.Aug 30 00:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/82023615Aug 30 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 23:57:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz except your pictures clearly show you as clean shaven, oh eternal hypocrite :DAug 30 01:00
schestowitzSome of us are required to shave as part of the jobAug 30 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk Some of us are required to shave as part of the jobAug 30 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tedks so do antibiotics, and vaccinations, and shelter -- this is like the argument against lightning rods, but just s/god/evolution/Aug 30 01:01
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82023745Aug 30 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Monday, 29-Aug-11 23:59:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the alternatives aren't that palatable though, prevent reproduction for bad teeth, genetic engineering?Aug 30 01:01
schestowitzTeeth with a tiny gap in between are not "bad teeth", they are just teeth with a tiny gapAug 30 01:01
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82023787Aug 30 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Baptist Redbloom (baptistredbloom)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 07:59:54 PHT - baptistredbloom: @schestowitz: I agree. It's better to let nature take its course.Aug 30 01:02
schestowitzThe point is, I see how many young children are taken through a humiliating process of shaping their appearance ('in line' with unreasonable norms)Aug 30 01:03
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82023839Aug 30 01:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:01:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I was not aware that doctors or programmers were forced to shave, it's even encouraged in the latterAug 30 01:04
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82023946Aug 30 01:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:01:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you're just propping up mal-evolved workplace policies then :)Aug 30 01:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lwh/status/108328756237713409Aug 30 01:06
TechrightsBot-tr@lwh: @schestowitz how do I get a massive server farm (like gmail) cheaply to do it?Aug 30 01:06
schestowitzShared hosting accounts can cost $1 a month and provide several addresses with pop3 and web access (horde/squirrelmail)Aug 30 01:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Azmodean/status/108329333688512512Aug 30 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Azmodean: @schestowitz ah, you qualified what you were objecting to in the first place as cosmetic, nevermind.Aug 30 01:08
schestowitzIt's a discussion I sometimes have and some people are offended by the idea that they play along and pressure others toAug 30 01:08
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82023946Aug 30 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:01:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you're just propping up mal-evolved workplace policies then :)Aug 30 01:09
schestowitzI did grow some stubble last year, then people at work start asking questions. It's inconvenient.Aug 30 01:09
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82024236Aug 30 01:10
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:04:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I prefer to be defined by my good qualities -- everything about us defines us as people, not just flawsAug 30 01:10
schestowitzSome of those things we define as "flaws" are only subjectively called "flaws". Some help survival.Aug 30 01:10
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82024308Aug 30 01:11
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:05:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz People better themselves in wildly divergent ways -- self-improvement (if self-directed, at least) makes us more uniqueAug 30 01:11
schestowitzI was referring more specifically to "corrective" treatment, where correction means "moving closer to averageAug 30 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks: Washington and Brasilia Monitoring Chávez in the Caribbean http://t.co/xZpBNwvAug 30 01:14
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schestowitzthe problem is further exacerbated when the "average" becomes artificial (e.g. implants, steroids, etc.) and people feel inadequateAug 30 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Wikipedia editors survey results: "only 8.5% of editors are women" !problematic http://ur1.ca/4ziq3 (pdf)Aug 30 01:15
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DaemonFCschestowitz: quit worrying or you'll have to pay a plastic surgeon to hide your crows feet Aug 30 01:16
DaemonFCsilly :)Aug 30 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] hey, i'm going to be doing live trivia in a pub in Boston in a bit... you guys should play along. just follow @thehavenjplive #jptriviaAug 30 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Epic creationist fails of our time #3 http://ur1.ca/4ziu6 new one from #potholderAug 30 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana don't worry, I'm going to start helping that right now.....by not editing wikipedia :PAug 30 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @lryan98245 International #Space Station Could Be Temporarily Abandoned After Russian Soyuz Crash http://ur1.ca/4zitx #thefinalfrontierAug 30 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Been playing with The GIMP again...http://ur1.ca/4ziv3Aug 30 01:23
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82025075Aug 30 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:14:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Whether they "help survival" is irrelevant, and all flaws are subjective. But the person who decides is the one with the flaw.Aug 30 01:28
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82025124Aug 30 01:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:15:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The solution is to advocate morphologic freedom and self-determination, not to conservatively attack body modificationAug 30 01:29
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82025168Aug 30 01:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:15:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz To start, attack the main enemies of self-determination and individual self-expression: !Capitalism, #Patriarchy, and #Racism.Aug 30 01:29
schestowitzI think it's fashion and consumerism, which are closely relatedAug 30 01:29
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82025798Aug 30 01:30
schestowitzIndeed.Aug 30 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:23:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Eating like pigs into obesity is as well.Aug 30 01:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/merlyn/status/108334707661471744Aug 30 01:31
TechrightsBot-tr@merlyn: “@schestowitz: mail about #flossweekly : "FLOSS Weekly appears to lock out FOSS users by requiring iTunes to listen to the MP3s" - NOT TRUEAug 30 01:31
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/82026529Aug 30 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:31:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz natural/artificial is a stupid dichotomy. Capitalism/Patriarchy/Racism does attack self-esteem, but the fix is to fight backAug 30 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @rixstepnews Strange that all sites reporting on supposed !WikiLeaks leak are in fact (former) media partners of #DDB /via @_matilda__Aug 30 01:33
DaemonFCwhy would you need itunes to listen to an MP3?Aug 30 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join @EFF and @dotrights and support the Reader Privacy Act! https://eff.org/r.5Bf #privacyAug 30 01:35
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DaemonFCitunes for Windows is even worse than it is on OSXAug 30 01:35
DaemonFCinstead of designing a Windows program, Apple decided to port all the rest of their crap over, even when it was superfluousAug 30 01:36
DaemonFCsuch as quicktime and their GUI toolkit librariesAug 30 01:36
DaemonFCthen they sneak in their web browser without askingAug 30 01:37
DaemonFCand set tons of new system services to load at startAug 30 01:37
DaemonFC:)Aug 30 01:37
DaemonFCit's gotten even worse than Real Player ever thought about beingAug 30 01:37
DaemonFCnothing pisses me off worse than a program that decides to plant a flag on your desktop and bring all its friends over to take the entire system overAug 30 01:39
DaemonFCthankfully it's pretty much limited to WindowsAug 30 01:39
schestowitzGood analogyAug 30 01:40
schestowitzRemembr Google Pack?Aug 30 01:40
DaemonFCmost people don't get that almost no Windows software is actually "free". you always pay for it whether it's cash or whether it dumps toolbars in your browser and litters its user interface with adsAug 30 01:40
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/82026793Aug 30 01:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 00:34:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz consumerism is code for capitalism. !Communist fashion would emphasize self-actualization over "be more like X."Aug 30 01:41
DaemonFCyeah, all self-serving crapAug 30 01:41
schestowitzthere are anarcho-communists in identicaAug 30 01:41
DaemonFCeven Firefox was modified with Google's add-onsAug 30 01:41
schestowitzhow so again?Aug 30 01:41
schestowitztoolbar?Aug 30 01:41
DaemonFCthey had their toolbar and some add-ins for other thingsAug 30 01:42
DaemonFCand they stuffed the bookmarks with links back to themselvesAug 30 01:42
schestowitzOh, I noticedAug 30 01:42
schestowitzBut these are parts of the toolbarAug 30 01:42
schestowitzlike notes, translationsAug 30 01:42
schestowitzAnd sidebar thingieAug 30 01:42
schestowitzWhich is more than the toolbar usuallly gets installed forAug 30 01:42
schestowitzit should be called "Google takeover"Aug 30 01:42
schestowitzNot "Goodle toolbar"Aug 30 01:42
schestowitzhttp://www.mediahacker.org/2011/08/wikileaks-embassys-privatization-update-shows-shock-doctrine-in-action/Aug 30 01:43
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DaemonFCbrowser toolbars are almost always a drive by install, which is a Windows thingAug 30 01:43
DaemonFCthere's almost never any real legitimate use for themAug 30 01:43
DaemonFCthey only serve to take screen space and some RAMAug 30 01:43
DaemonFCand possibly to spy on youAug 30 01:44
DaemonFClike how the Bing Bar scrapes Google searches Aug 30 01:44
schestowitzgoogle scraped surfr historyAug 30 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] double bill @larryrusswurm's "Hope for Couch Potatoes" http://ur1.ca/4ymu3 & "Solving the Exercise Difficulty" http://ur1.ca/4zj5o #humourAug 30 01:45
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DaemonFCI noticed that a lot of Chrome installs are being done as drive by downloads now when the user is attempting to install something elseAug 30 01:46
DaemonFCutorrent for exampleAug 30 01:46
DaemonFCseems like Google is hell bent on getting it installed whether you asked for it or notAug 30 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/8/2011: Linux 3.1-rc4, 3.0.4, 2.6.32.46, and 2.6.33.19 http://ur1.ca/4zj7l !techrightsAug 30 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 29/8/2011: Linux 3.1-rc4, 3.0.4, 2.6.32.46, and 2.6.33.19 http://ur1.ca/4zj7l #techrightsAug 30 01:47
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DaemonFCschestowitz: a lot of netcasts that claim you need itunes or Windows Media Player actually work fine with other softwareAug 30 01:48
DaemonFCI use VLC and Amarok a lotAug 30 01:48
DaemonFCall they're doing is advertising for some really shitty programsAug 30 01:49
DaemonFChere, install 500 MB of itunes to listen to a streaming MP3!Aug 30 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fraudulent *.google.com certificate issued http://lwn.net/Articles/456798/rssAug 30 01:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/darkuncle/status/108335139515404290Aug 30 02:10
TechrightsBot-tr@darkuncle: @merlyn @schestowitz I'm not even sure how you _could_ require someone to use iTunes to listen to an mp3Aug 30 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Cisco and L’American Censorship, Edelman Spam, and China Syndrome http://ur1.ca/4zjh1 !techrightsAug 30 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links – Cisco and L’American Censorship, Edelman Spam, and China Syndrome http://ur1.ca/4zjh1 #techrightsAug 30 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: Australia: All US cables from Australia released, including SECRET, CONFIDENTIAL http://t.co/KX0CHWRAug 30 02:10
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/floorter/status/108336237005377537Aug 30 02:10
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TechrightsBot-tr@floorter: @merlyn @schestowitz What? I use Listen on Android to enjoy the show. I don't even use Windows or OS X to install iTunes.Aug 30 02:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ironhelixx/status/108336584356675584Aug 30 02:10
TechrightsBot-tr@ironhelixx: @schestowitz I have no issues listening to #flossweekly from Linux or this TouchPad I am using right now - no iTunes required hereAug 30 02:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/108337984092389377Aug 30 02:10
TechrightsBot-tr@rbanffy: @merlyn And, BTW, @schestowitz is wrong. FLOSS Weekly works flawlessly on RhythmboxAug 30 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Metropolitan Opera streaming live to movie theaters around the US http://bit.ly/nfhQeD I'm there dude!Aug 30 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @tekk That's what I thought about my mom's dog; then she started losing her hair. She turns out to be blackAug 30 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @trashbird1240 coolAug 30 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] decided that I'll use pure !emacs tomorrow, probably dwm for max roomAug 30 02:23
DaemonFChttps://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2Aug 30 02:26
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DaemonFCwonder if this is trustworthyAug 30 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Silver Wedding Anniversary celebrations over. Now back to #amwriting.Aug 30 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] And now I can't move. I have a puppy glued to my feet :) Good girl Kleo!Aug 30 02:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Brazilian Documentary Festival http://docbrazilfestival.com/ 03-04 September !BeijingAug 30 02:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Brazilian Documentary Festival http://docbrazilfestival.com/ 03-04 September !Beijing #FestivalYoung http://cul.sohu.com/festivalyoung/ #789Aug 30 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[micu/@micu] just dreamt that he was at a !CCC event and directly witnessed how a free-for-all brawl erupted between #Assange and #DDB. Weird. !WikileaksAug 30 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Preview of @EFF's NSA spying hearing from @wired's @dmkravets https://eff.org/r.B7hAug 30 03:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This Week: Appeals Court to Weigh NSA Dragnet Surveillance | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 54.93 KBAug 30 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Latest fake Google SSL cert demonstrates the dangerous weakness of certificate authorities: https://eff.org/r.4Bg #privacy #sslAug 30 03:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Overview of released WikiLeaks US cables by country (175) and creation date http://t.co/c99FQ62Aug 30 03:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @stav These 19 Social Networks Are Bigger Than !Gplus http://ur1.ca/4uvolAug 30 03:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 What's this newfangled dadbummed bitcoin thing all about?Aug 30 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] CNN is reporting that recent Wikileaks cables have revealed that Apple assembled an anti-counterfeit team... http://t.co/oz4Ex0P #wlfindAug 30 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US moved to relocate Iraqi WMD scientist to Australia: McGuire said after election http://t.co/bj6TamK #wlfindAug 30 03:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #WLfind US on Gitmo, David Hicks John Howard and his Government have taken pains to defend our actions consistently http://t.co/nDlWalzAug 30 03:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ploogster: I've never been prouder to be an Australian thanks to @wikileaks. Thankyou #wlfindAug 30 03:55
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DaemonFCschestowitz: You know any good menu editors in GTK besides alacarte?Aug 30 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian officials told US of Afghan troop increase before it told public, asked for secrecy http://t.co/OJ1KVSC #wlfindAug 30 04:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US drone crashed in Yemeni waters in 2007; Saleh lied, said it was Iranian to curry US favor http://t.co/SJ9B2Gs #wlfindAug 30 04:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Roasted eggplant and zucchini layered with fresh tomato sauce, tofu ricotta, chopped basil, and pankoAug 30 04:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: RT @crikey_news: confidential cable contains portrait of Bill Shorten as a power hungry sycophant http://t.co/ziiHNmPAug 30 04:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Hallo daar! Je bent nu op Twitter!" "Volgen en Volgers" Who the fuck translated #Twitter to Dutch for them?! #failAug 30 04:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Twitter users accross the globe world delight in mining US gov secrets search: http://t.co/YaETl7Z live-results http://t.co/xHnbYaCAug 30 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 70k Bedouins considered squatters in Israel - denied basic gvt resources, & infrastructure. http://t.co/4d2MiYC #Wlfind via @Asher_WolfAug 30 04:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: Ex-Mossad chief: We're learning how to deter non-state actors; current strategy is to use disproportionate force http://j ...Aug 30 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: This is SMH's coverage of US attempts to have Iraq germ warfare scientist under Saddam relocated to Australia http://j.mp ...Aug 30 04:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange has now been detained for 266 days without charge http://t.co/7wD6ONyAug 30 04:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Greenwald: NYTimes vs. Assange: the Nixonian henchman of today http://t.co/Wmh3ua8Aug 30 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: PM Gillard was actively campaigning for leadership under Rudd - how US embassy spies saw it http://t.co/lKQaFzPAug 30 04:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan Tell me your favorite Open Source startup http://evanprodromou.name/2011/08/30/on-open-source-startups/Aug 30 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Correction: Benny Dagan is Israeli Ambassador to Sweden. (h/t @tamarabraham) http://t.co/HfbaFIm #wlfindAug 30 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Corporate. Sounds like culprit.Aug 30 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @wikileaks2 Julian Assange has now been detained for 266 days without charge http://t.co/7wD6ONyAug 30 05:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Nobody gave me this. I earned this.Aug 30 05:12
cubeman__running VM/370Aug 30 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Erica is away on a trip. Life is a whole lot less vibrant when she isn't here. Man, I do dig being married, which means wife-absence sucks.Aug 30 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 Congratulations to christian, the new omgponies theme will be betterAug 30 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] a CMS using C++ https://bitbucket.org/nileshgr/cppcms/wiki/Home Great idea, Spread the worldAug 30 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mairin 'wow, this is the 5th time it's crashed!' 'the 5th?' 'oh, i'm sorry, the 5th time in the past ten minutes.' #flashsuxAug 30 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Hah! I forgot about http://is.gd/jtQ1j8 and the parody http://is.gd/ZytQYP #lugradio #comedyAug 30 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now out: #Linux #longterm #kernel 2.6.32.46 http://bit.ly/nZUXaF 2.6.33.19 http://bit.ly/pregIt and #stable 3.0.4 http://bit.ly/nnrVTfAug 30 07:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA pornoscaner WILL cause cancer without a doubt http://myhelicaltryst.blogspot.com/2010/11/tsa-x-ray-backscatter-body-scanner.htmlAug 30 07:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So DigiNotar issued a wrong certificate for all google subdomains? I mean - HOW is this possible? http://www.microsoft.... http://b1t.it/yMsAug 30 07:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] In reminiscing over stupid homemade LugRadio Live ads, I also found http://is.gd/6vDF7l #lugradio #comedyAug 30 07:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Iconic IMHO. https://plus.google.com/102377882249382281108/posts/fKFkv6E9HKnAug 30 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Asus Ultrabooks To Launch in October http://t.co/BDfc0jx via @netbook_newsAug 30 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: TwimGo updated to v3.0.6, fMobi updated to 1.3.3 http://t.co/0O9P05CAug 30 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] While the root certificates of CAcert have a hard time making it to browsers, insecure companies have no prob. #diginotar #sslfailAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: REminiscence - Flashback port for the Nokia N900: http://t.co/5zyXTTwAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @kevieAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: Smart Expense for N9 / N950 - keep track of your budget: http://t.co/OOmr8atAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Application – QFunzel For #Nokia #N9/#N950 – #MeeGo #Harmattan http://mge.bz/lLAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: CuteRemote for N9 / N950 - remote control for DACP media players: http://t.co/f2ogYCQAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Internet Radio Player For Nokia N9/N950 – MeeGo Harmattan http://mge.bz/lMAug 30 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Who wants to develop a voice-to-text tweeter app with me? - Forum | MeeGo : http://mge.bz/lNAug 30 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer While the root certificates of CAcert have a hard time making it to browsers, insecure companies have no prob. #diginotar ...Aug 30 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tuesday's !InconstantMoon serialization is posted http://ur1.ca/4zl7v !SelfPubAug 30 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @jwildeboer While the root certificates of CAcert have a hard time making it to browsers, insecure companies have no prob. #diginotar ...Aug 30 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @wiretapped RT @mala Google fought off a major global security problem with the assistance of a pseudonymous Iranian today. HTH, Eric ...Aug 30 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fairvotewrc @the_irish_times sez: trust in politics hits new lows, but citizens’ assemblies are growing in popularity http://is.gd/k ...Aug 30 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] I'm at @ffkp speaking with @jonaso and @blondinrikard about "kvantmekaniserat infanteri" ^^Aug 30 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @wiretapped RT @csoghoian The market for SSL certs is so hopelessly broken. No legal liability for CAs like DigiNotar and Comodo that ...Aug 30 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @debianbug New bug: 639744 - #ca-certificates - Compromised certificates for *.google.com issued by DigiNotar Root CA... http://deb.l ...Aug 30 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @brownout "we are releasing new versions of !Firefox shortly that will revoke trust in the DigiNotar root" http://is.gd/eVrpSNAug 30 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @samatjain Please disable the DigiNotar CA in your Web browser, or better yet upgrade! http://ur1.ca/4zhyvAug 30 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Important GNOME Shell, Mutter Updates http://ur1.ca/4zlbd #gnome #gnomeshelllAug 30 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source is illegal? http://ur1.ca/4zlc4 #romania #slovakiaAug 30 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Won’t Pwn Me! http://ur1.ca/4zlcg #googleplus #privacyAug 30 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu-powered Tablet Computers: Will they work or won’t they? http://ur1.ca/4zlco #ubuntu #tablet suffers the most from #google #androidAug 30 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not much #Ubuntu coverage this year. Even #OMGubuntu has run out of stuff to cover... http://ur1.ca/4zld3Aug 30 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another sign: when "no change" is "news" http://ur1.ca/4zld8Aug 30 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identiverse ... #tzafAug 30 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Sorry, NYT, It doesn't matter how many sleazy hack jobs [...] you hire, we've out published your Pentagon tabloid already.Aug 30 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 [...] killed worldwide by "terrorism" last yr: 8—by lightning strike: at least 29 http://t.co/f2uUXUy Where's war on lightning?Aug 30 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 .. “USgovt researchers [knowingly contravened] ethical standards by [killing 83] mental patients w syphilis” http://t.co/fl4r6b1Aug 30 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Warrantless Surveillance Memos Stay Classified http://ur1.ca/4zle0 too embarrassed to show the public a departure from libertyAug 30 09:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/108356434399477760Aug 30 09:21
TechrightsBot-tr@charlesdavis84: Quick reminder that Barack Obama's refusal to prosecute Bush administration war criminals makes him complicit in their crimes.Aug 30 09:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/108357686587961344Aug 30 09:22
TechrightsBot-tr@einfeldt: RT @sameerverma: "Steve Jobs is a biological Arab-American with roots in Syria". An interesting read. http://t.co/c41OStLAug 30 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another ‘Collateral Murder’ Incident Highlighted in the !WikiLeaks Cables http://ur1.ca/4zled more journalists murderedAug 30 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Graphics Stack, Requirements For #Ubuntu 11.10 http://ur1.ca/4zfr7 "Canonical is playing it safe and sticking to the Linux 3.0 kernel"Aug 30 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xbox 360 reset glitch hack, Xbox 360 Linux on its way? http://ur1.ca/4zli0 #xbox #linux #microsoftAug 30 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Graphics Stack, Requirements For Ubuntu 11.10 .::. Size~: 19.91 KBAug 30 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fujitsu's Android tablet is ready for bathtub readers http://ur1.ca/4zlio "Android tablet you could use in the bathtub" #linux #tabletAug 30 09:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fujitsu's Android tablet is ready for bathtub readers - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.95 KBAug 30 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VA, DoD take next step to open source #EHR http://ur1.ca/4zlix #health #freedomAug 30 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VA, DoD take next step to open source EHR | Healthcare IT News .::. Size~: 41.34 KBAug 30 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon.com Tablet Could Ship 5 Million Units http://ur1.ca/4zljq #linux which is taxed by #Microsoft sadly. #swpatsAug 30 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com Tablet Could Ship 5 Million Units - Mobile and Wireless - News & Reviews  - eWeek.com .::. Size~: 114.59 KBAug 30 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crushing dissent without aggression is best done by uniting the population against a phantom new enemy like harsh weather or "terrorism"Aug 30 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When the population feels threatened from the outside, protest is seen as detrimental to national good. When natural disaster strikes - sameAug 30 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] iEmu Aims To Emulate iOS On Android, Windows, and Linux http://ur1.ca/4zlks Apple's walled gardens lose their wallsAug 30 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: iEmu Aims To Emulate iOS On Android, Windows, and Linux - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 87.3 KBAug 30 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Linux Foundation members are looking for Linux talent to help advance the OS" http://ur1.ca/4zll3 (Companies Look for Linux Talent) #linuxAug 30 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SyllableOS developer interview: Building a better operating system http://ur1.ca/4zllm too late to pull this one offAug 30 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Dear, !Android fans: enough with the “put Android on HP TouchPad” talk http://goo.gl/auFNiAug 30 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: #Empathy 3.2 to probably feature complex log viewer, fancy new UI and more http://goo.gl/Xw1mgAug 30 09:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Androinica  » Dear, Android fans: enough with the “put Android on HP TouchPad” talk .::. Size~: 60.55 KBAug 30 09:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Empathy 3.2 to probably feature complex log viewer, fancy new UI and more | iloveubuntu / Ubuntu blog .::. Size~: 25.62 KBAug 30 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU en route to US-style software patent nightmare http://ur1.ca/4zlly @rms agrees with @zoobab of @ffiiAug 30 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Workaround for !Unity Web Applications in !Chromium http://goo.gl/mX1sGAug 30 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU en route to US-style software patent nightmare - 'Unitary patents' must be stopped says RMS | TechEye .::. Size~: 17.02 KBAug 30 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Engadget: #Samsung Galaxy S II LTE and Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE announced, set to debut at IFA http://goo.gl/2DdcE !androidAug 30 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fujitsu Prepping Rugged Honeycomb Tablet http://ur1.ca/4zlnh #linux #android #tabletAug 30 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Help me, #nescafé! You are my only hope.Aug 30 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @yareckon http://ur1.ca/4bs0m the big thing in Windows 8 is basically an oldschool 'nix tiling window manager on a touchscreen !linux ...Aug 30 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] We could save millions of hours dealing with e-mails if people would stay to those points #Email #guide http://ur1.ca/4zlntAug 30 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building "Windows 8" - Video #1       - YouTube .::. Size~: 72.94 KBAug 30 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fellows/mk/EmailGuide - FSFE Fellowship Wiki .::. Size~: 9.04 KBAug 30 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Child Pornography Bill Makes Privacy Experts Skittish http://ur1.ca/4zlop they call is that so that no congressperson would dare say "no"Aug 30 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Child Pornography Bill Makes Privacy Experts Skittish : NPR .::. Size~: 69.19 KBAug 30 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The bill requires all Internet service providers to save their customers' IP addresses[...] for a year." Think about the children! Excuses.Aug 30 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nothing gets policies passed faster than democracy-washing a war and child-washing fascist new measures against civil libertiesAug 30 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz: "bill requires all ISPs to save customers' IP addresses[…] for a year." Think of the kids! ExcusesAug 30 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Disney factory faces probe into sweatshop suicide claims http://ur1.ca/4zlp3Aug 30 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz: Nothing gets policies passed faster than democracy-washing war & child-washing fascist new measures against civil libertiesAug 30 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Disney factory faces probe into sweatshop suicide claims | World news | The Observer .::. Size~: 107.18 KBAug 30 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] !WikiLeaks Cables Confirm #US Efforts to Push Genetically Engineered #Food Abroad”: http://ur1.ca/4zlpm !foodandwater !green !USAAug 30 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks Cables Confirm U.S. Efforts to Push Genetically Engineered Food Abroad .::. Size~: 49.81 KBAug 30 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @kirschner We could save millions of hours dealing with e-mails if people would stay to those points #Email #guide http://ur1.ca/4zlntAug 30 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Empfehlenswert für !fs Aktive: lobbykritische #Berlin Stadtführung am 3.9. um 11 Uhr von #LobbyControl http://ur1.ca/4zlqiAug 30 10:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LobbyControl |   Es gibt noch freie Plätze für die Lobby-Stadtführung am Samstag, 03.09. .::. Size~: 54.08 KBAug 30 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @leinir There you go, people: a !MeeGo UX that works like it should :) ♻ @timorph: plasma active on top of MeeGo n900ce http://t.co/N ...Aug 30 10:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaceMZIqF3IAug 30 10:35
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25QejDFCBwI&feature=player_embeddedAug 30 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Identica & #Twitter need "biggest stalker" ratings AKA who follows the most people #kiddinAug 30 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Samsung rumoured to buy !WebOS now - by Nick Farrell - Techeye http://ping.fm/TCUNwAug 30 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung rumoured to buy WebOS now - Rumour mill continues to roil | TechEye .::. Size~: 19.9 KBAug 30 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if #WebOS will flourish even as a fork in the communities hands after a lot of folks got bargain tablets !LinuxAug 30 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #iEmu Hopes To Bring #iOS Apps To Your !Android Device by Chris Chavez http://goo.gl/tPeFCAug 30 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can't see #iEmu being popular at #Apple headquarters but I kinda like the ideaAug 30 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #ifross: "Creative Commons #CC Lizenzen in Deutschland gerichtlich durchgesetzt" http://ur1.ca/4t2j0Aug 30 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Whitehall emails reveal the hidden costs of promoting free schools http://gu.com/p/3xgh2Aug 30 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons Lizenzen in Deutschland gerichtlich durchgesetzt | ifrOSS .::. Size~: 19.04 KBAug 30 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Whitehall emails reveal the hidden costs of promoting free schools | Education | The Guardian .::. Size~: 238.91 KBAug 30 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Interessante Diskussion bei #vdi nachrichten: "Jedes zweite Patent in Deutschland ist potenziell rechtswidrig!" http://ur1.ca/4zly3 #swpatAug 30 11:07
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amarsh04hi MinceR, back in Australia after a few days in TokyoAug 30 11:10
MinceRhttp://9gag.com/gag/225628Aug 30 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A Detailed Guide To Write An SEO Optimized Blog Post in WordPress from Graphic and Web Design Blog by Salman Saeed http://goo.gl/ed1v5Aug 30 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Making games with !Blender and Maratis from BlenderNation by Community Reporter http://goo.gl/RlVkEAug 30 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Iranian Man-in-the-Middle Attack Against !Google Demonstrates Dangerous Weakness of Certificate Authorities from !EFF Updates http://goo.gl/Aug 30 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Detailed Guide To Write An SEO Optimized Blog Post in Wordpress .::. Size~: 52.96 KBAug 30 11:12
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amarsh04managed to meet one of the singers after a concert: http://www.users.on.net/~arthur.marsh/minori-small.jpgAug 30 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Best Free !Android #News Aggregators - #Linux Links « Greed is great name http://ping.fm/83Sa9Aug 30 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Debian patches !Apache bug, upstream yet to react - iTWire http://goo.gl/e3yInAug 30 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Wieder mal ein Beispiel, wie OpenSource zu Mißverständnissen führt http://ur1.ca/4zm3aAug 30 11:23
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source : Erfolgreich durch Offenheit | Digital | ZEIT ONLINE .::. Size~: 89.28 KBAug 30 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !fs | #Syllable OS developer interview: Building a better operating system http://goo.gl/UxBYiAug 30 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's the most FOSS news I've found in one morning for a long time. I'm satisfied with thatAug 30 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @chastell/@shot: 90% of happiness is picking the right ethicist. http://t.co/q0dJjzi http://t.co/WdxENPbAug 30 11:35
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iophkhttp://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/08/14/business/20110815_PHONE_graphic.htmlAug 30 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] whoa, finally somebody made the effort and enumerated all that is fail with the "ribbon" interface: ur1.ca/4zmclAug 30 11:38
iophkPlenty of Ways to Hit Your Mobile Data LimitAug 30 11:40
iophkon AT&T or VerizonAug 30 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] India just crashed its drone in Pakistan http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/08/weird-birdlike-mystery-drone-crashes-in-pakistan/Aug 30 11:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Weird, Birdlike Mystery Drone Crashes in Pakistan | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 55.83 KBAug 30 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] [re: ribbon] also, have a look at this, highly amusing: ur1.ca/4zmdcAug 30 11:42
iophkIf you leave Skype running it will use your bandwidth, possibly as a supernodeAug 30 11:43
iophkhttp://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/26/find-out-if-your-computer-acts-as-a-skype-super-node/Aug 30 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Find out if your computer acts as a Skype Super-Node .::. Size~: 32.91 KBAug 30 11:45
MinceRi don't even install itAug 30 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Linux fans! What've been your highlights and lowlights of the last 20 years? Let us know for our podcast: http://tinyurl.com/3b28ccjAug 30 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Ballot: What are your highlights and lowlights of the past 20 years? | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 15 KBAug 30 11:47
iophkI don't have it / won't have it either.Aug 30 11:49
iophkBut some others do.Aug 30 11:49
iophkFor them, their bandwidth is at riskAug 30 11:50
MinceRnot only their bandwidthAug 30 11:59
MinceRalso their security and they may be subject to legal threatsAug 30 12:00
schestowitzTrust MicrosoftAug 30 12:00
schestowitzThey have a good track recordAug 30 12:01
schestowitzWhen it comes to complying with government, unless it's the antitrust deptsAug 30 12:01
schestowitz!google laked microsoft compliance manualAug 30 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Leaked Microsoft intelligence document: Here's what Microsoft will ... | http://blogs.computerworld.com/15655/leaked_microsoft_intelligence_document_heres_what_microsoft_will_reveal_to_police_about_youAug 30 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft's Global Criminal Compliance Handbook Leaked | Fast ... | http://www.fastcompany.com/1561471/microsoft-online-security-guidance-leak-cryptomeAug 30 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Online Surveillance Guide - Cryptome Leak | Geekosystem | http://www.geekosystem.com/cryptome-leaks-microsofts-online-surveillance-guide-ms-demands-takedown/Aug 30 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft No Longer Seeking Removal of Cryptome or Leaked ... | http://www.securityprivacyandthelaw.com/2010/03/articles/data-breach-1/microsoft-no-longer-seeking-removal-of-cryptome-or-leaked-compliance-handbook/Aug 30 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The magic number has arrived :-) #emaker #huxley 3d printer building time! Final preparations ...Aug 30 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The Tor 0.2.2 release series is dedicated to the memory of Andreas Pfitzmann: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-02232-releasedAug 30 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @samtuke My 'Effective Free Software Advocacy' guide updated to incorporate Richard Stallman's suggestions. Please share http://ur1.c ...Aug 30 12:52
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schestowitz"Microsoft does it again, they forced Tamil nadu govenment to change tender specs to ship 900,000 laptops on windows earlier tender it was "Aug 30 13:00
schestowitz"dual boot. The govenment is saying dual boot is costing them more via OEM. I will send you both tenders, mail id needed. "Aug 30 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Confirmed: Ben Edelman Paid by Microsoft, Attacks Google http://ur1.ca/4zmnx #microsoft #google #astroturf #fud #harvardAug 30 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Confirmed: Ben Edelman Paid by Microsoft, Attacks Google http://ur1.ca/4zmnx #spin #poisonpen #academia #pr #spin #smearcampaignAug 30 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Russian Foreign Ministry 'Bastion' of Sexism and Low Pay http://t.co/g4W82li #russiaAug 30 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Got my tube" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4zmpgAug 30 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guidance request: Allegations USG sought to test nerve gas on Australians. http://t.co/JrtWrEF #wlfind RT @Asher_WolfAug 30 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: I'm having inspiring meetings in #SiliconValley. Eur. companies reminded me about SV bei http://p.ost.im/p/eLQcMeAug 30 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: wondering if in europe we lack the #nerds, the #hippies or a place for them to meet each http://p.ost.im/p/eLue7xAug 30 13:15
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MinceRnah, the antitrust depts change their behavior to comply with the megacorps' wishesAug 30 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google Plus forces us to discuss identity ⚫ Cory Doctorow http://goo.gl/T28NYAug 30 13:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Plus forces us to discuss identity | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 122.07 KBAug 30 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Death of the Smartphone ⚫ Barbara Hudson http://ping.fm/IXGbOAug 30 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Comprehensive Domscheit-OpenLeaks timeline | Rixstep http://t.co/Add7cIKAug 30 13:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Mobile: The Death of the Smartphone .::. Size~: 58.71 KBAug 30 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Beispiele aus dem richtigen Leben können beim erklären von Software-Themen helfen http://ur1.ca/4zmupAug 30 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @leinir There you go, people: a !MeeGo UX that works like it should :) ♻ @timorph: plasma active on top of MeeGo n900ce http://t.co/N ...Aug 30 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 120 Chinese children disappear in Sweden http://t.co/lPraty0 #wlfind #Wikileaks via @Asher_WolfAug 30 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Holocaust Museum allowed to work in Vatican Secret Archives given 'intense interest' in Vatican role at time http://t.co/7HsjiyN #wlfindAug 30 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Belgians expressed concern to US about a G20 super group within the EU http://t.co/btznm8iAug 30 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] There has been no WikiLeaks error. There has been a grossly negligent mainstream media error, to put it generously.Aug 30 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New poll: Have you used MIT OpenCourseWare? | http://red.ht/oagqGu #MITOCW #openeduAug 30 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft in Embargo War Against #Linux http://ur1.ca/4zmxn #swpats #patent #monopolyAug 30 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft in Embargo War Against Linux http://ur1.ca/4zmxn #android #motorola #nokia #embargo #uspto #itc #protectionism #samsungAug 30 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Follow the build of my Emaker Huxley here :-) Almost live https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233Aug 30 14:07
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ender_260021:35 < DaemonFC> browser toolbars are almost always a drive by install, which is a Windows thingAug 30 14:09
ender_2600or an ubuntu thingAug 30 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Cisco and Abuses of Human Rights in China: Part 1 https://www.eff.org/n/15350Aug 30 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Sweden uses cluster munitions and campaigned to stop ban in Oslo http://t.co/ezWVWiZAug 30 14:12
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ender_260020:27 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] People should host their own mail at their own domain. It's neither hard nor expensive, it's a lot more powerful too.Aug 30 14:12
ender_2600it costs moneyAug 30 14:12
ender_260019:52 < schestowitz> if there was just one disto, vendor and DE, Apple and Microsoft would have crushed us easilyAug 30 14:14
ender_2600well for business there were two commercial distros that countedAug 30 14:14
ender_2600RHEL and SLESAug 30 14:14
ender_2600Microsoft co-opted SLESAug 30 14:14
ender_2600Tried the same with RedhatAug 30 14:14
schestowitzthey did with some CHinese company recentlyAug 30 14:15
schestowitz!google microsoft linux chinaAug 30 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Sanity check: How Microsoft beat Linux in China and what it means ... | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/sanity-check-how-microsoft-beat-linux-in-china-and-what-it-means-for-freedom-justice-and-the-price-of-software/525Aug 30 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - What Explains Microsoft's Linux-Centric Moves in China? | http://ostatic.com/blog/what-explains-microsofts-linux-centric-moves-in-chinaAug 30 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft, China Standard Software Co. Ltd. sign Linux server deal ... | http://gcn.com/articles/2011/08/23/ecg-microsoft-inks-linux-partner-deal.aspxAug 30 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft teams with China's top Linux vendor in the cloud - GeekWire | http://www.geekwire.com/2011/microsoft-chinas-top-linux-vendor-team-cloud-computingAug 30 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Virgin Trains Sucks http://ur1.ca/4zmyy do yourself a favour and don't bother with them, unless there is no other option :-)Aug 30 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #VirginTrains Suck http://ur1.ca/4zmyy do yourself a favour and don't bother with them, unless there is no other option :-) #virgin #failAug 30 14:15
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MinceRactually not all businesses insist on buying support for their OSAug 30 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks, and you, have triggered hundreds of reform generating scoops around the world this week http://t.co/IAB0zFEAug 30 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Researchers develop room-temperature spintronics through the use of topological insulators (TechEye): http://bit.ly/qWN4mtAug 30 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Verizon Kills Free FTP Access (Business Insider via @slashdot): http://read.bi/qPzPt9Aug 30 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Wants Your Feedback On Its New Python IDE (/.): http://bit.ly/r4qy13Aug 30 14:25
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schestowitzLOLAug 30 14:29
schestowitzSlashdot , YOU SUCK!Aug 30 14:30
schestowitzMicrosoft is EEEing pythonAug 30 14:30
schestowitzAnd Malda's site helps them Aug 30 14:30
ender_2600EEEing?Aug 30 14:31
schestowitzSee my dentAug 30 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is now EEEing #Python (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) and guess who helps them? Slashdot. No wonder Malda quit.Aug 30 14:32
schestowitzWatching /. is like watching an old girlfriend falling in love with a jerkAug 30 14:32
ender_2600You might be going a little overboardAug 30 14:32
ender_2600Did they EEE C++ ?Aug 30 14:33
abeNd-orgYeah, steve martin isnt all that badAug 30 14:33
schestowitzAt this point I'd just rather look awayAug 30 14:33
schestowitzender_2600: they didn javaAug 30 14:33
ender_2600j++Aug 30 14:33
ender_2600different name and even their own namespaceAug 30 14:34
ender_2600not too different from dalvikAug 30 14:34
ender_2600its a little misleading to say its microsofts new python ideAug 30 14:35
ender_2600its just an addon for visual studioAug 30 14:35
MinceRso it's more accurate to say that it's yet another turd from m$, which this time pretends it has something to do with python?Aug 30 14:36
ender_2600it would be like adding a c# plugin to eclipse and calling it a brand new ideAug 30 14:37
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ender_2600basicly just a syntax highlighter for python codeAug 30 14:38
ender_2600and probably auto indentingAug 30 14:38
ender_2600basicly just a slow news dayAug 30 14:39
schestowitz!google techrights microsoft pythonAug 30 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Is Microsoft Embracing Open Source? Like a Python ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/12/10/microsoft-embraces-open-source/Aug 30 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mono Development Canned (Updated: Everyone Laid Off) | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/03/mono-developers-laid-off/Aug 30 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Easy-LTSP Dumps Mono/C#, Rewritten in Python Instead | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/06/02/easy-ltsp-chooses-python-instead/Aug 30 14:40
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schestowitzoddly enough it lacks the relevant resultsAug 30 14:40
schestowitzI wrote about it 2-3 years agoAug 30 14:40
schestowitz[4] is from a Microsoft intern and Internet trollAug 30 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 2011-08-30 (by Eye-Fi) https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233/5646633560875164130Aug 30 14:40
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ender_2600Microsoft seems to have the attributes of the devil to be honestAug 30 14:40
ender_2600It's everywhere, all encompasing and it consumes and corrupts all it touchesAug 30 14:41
schestowitzender_2600: is it an anagram of 666? :-pAug 30 14:41
ender_2600At least that is how it is presentedAug 30 14:41
ender_2600by certain peopleAug 30 14:41
ender_2600Python is fine, but then Microsoft used Python. All of a sudden its MSPython and Team IronPython.Aug 30 14:42
ender_2600Java? J++ and C#Aug 30 14:42
ender_2600CorruptedAug 30 14:42
ender_2600HTML5? Let's add h264... CorruptedAug 30 14:43
ender_2600Every journalist that comes in contact with them turns evil, becomes a shill and a puppet for Microsoft.Aug 30 14:43
ender_2600Every company that has a business deal with Microsoft, turns even, becomes a shill and a puppet for Microsoft.Aug 30 14:44
ender_260010:33 < schestowitz> ender_2600: is it an anagram of 666? :-pAug 30 14:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/108488058910932992Aug 30 14:45
TechrightsBot-tr@poultrykeeper: A bet with my Boss. He says Twitter is a waste of time. He will give 50p per RT I get but I give him £10 if I don't get 10...Aug 30 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Mainstream Backlash Against Software Patents and Patents in General http://ur1.ca/4zn35 #swpats #microsoft #uspto #epoAug 30 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] A nifty piece on CC licenses in "Understanding Copyright And Licenses" article: http://bit.ly/jPGz4QAug 30 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] More Mainstream Backlash Against Software Patents and Patents in General http://ur1.ca/4zn35 #lodsys #law #patenttroll #usAug 30 14:45
ender_2600In numerology it's _one_Aug 30 14:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @techdirt: If ACTA Is Approved In The US, It May Open The Door For The President To Regularly Ignore Congress... http://t.co/5FlWM8IAug 30 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Warning from the Future (Tom Tomorrow): http://bit.ly/r7FXCyAug 30 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks: Russian Foreign Ministry 'Bastion' of Sexism and Low Pay http://ur1.ca/4zn3h "published 133,887 cables over the last week " !wlAug 30 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The Death of the Smartphone http://tinyurl.com/3ba5uy7Aug 30 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Five Good Reasons to Try Mandriva Linux 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3f7ahxf #linux #opensourceAug 30 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Want a Faster Firefox? Pale Moon 6.0 Can Help http://tinyurl.com/3nbqn94 #opensourceAug 30 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @anivar: @wikileaks Leak create strom among Kerala Communists :-) http://t.co/Ahw3GMIAug 30 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cable: Manila transit point for North Korean defectors http://t.co/YD8Lufi #wlfindAug 30 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks Holocaust Museum allowed to work in Vatican Secret Archives given 'intense interest'in Vatican role at time http://t.co/7HsjiyNAug 30 14:52
ender_2600FiresuxAug 30 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Belgians expressed concern to US about a G20 "super group" within the EU http://t.co/btznm8iAug 30 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People start reading real news, not a reporter's spin/interpretation http://ur1.ca/4zn48Aug 30 14:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/108534579698221056Aug 30 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr@wikileaks: Australian media are doing a great job with latest cable release. A proud example to follow.Aug 30 14:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/108534904429625344Aug 30 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr@wikileaks: Example of recent Australian reportage http://t.co/0rhHsoMAug 30 14:55
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schestowitzMaybe the public will become bettereducatedAug 30 14:56
schestowitzOne can only hopeAug 30 14:56
schestowitzMurdoch looks like more of a liar/fool nowAug 30 14:56
schestowitzYears or decades of mental engineering contradicted nowAug 30 14:56
ender_2600Good stuffAug 30 14:56
ender_2600what about his bossesAug 30 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] apps try to do their own window management annoy the heck out of me. yes, libreoffice, i WANT you to open on the desktop i started you on!Aug 30 14:57
schestowitzdoes he have bosses?Aug 30 14:57
schestowitzHe has partnersAug 30 14:57
schestowitzThose who businesses and parties he assistsAug 30 14:57
ender_2600you think hes running the planet?Aug 30 14:57
schestowitzI bet neighbourlee is not paying attention to these cable releasesAug 30 14:57
schestowitzender_2600: noAug 30 14:58
schestowitzHe has control of many media outletsAug 30 14:58
schestowitzAnd has had that for a long timeAug 30 14:58
schestowitzThere are about 5 othersAug 30 14:58
ender_2600rightAug 30 14:58
schestowitzI don't know if they change heads a lotAug 30 14:58
ender_2600they have bossesAug 30 14:58
schestowitzI think they are less of a family empireAug 30 14:58
schestowitzender_2600: ok,, so who would these be?Aug 30 14:58
ender_2600somewhere somebody is ruling the worldAug 30 14:58
schestowitzGive namesAug 30 14:59
schestowitzIf Murdoch is just their puppeyAug 30 14:59
schestowitz*puppyAug 30 14:59
schestowitzender_2600: who?Aug 30 14:59
schestowitzWhere?Aug 30 14:59
schestowitzWhat's ther name?Aug 30 14:59
MinceRneighborlee only pays attention to releases from his cultsAug 30 14:59
MinceRa christian cult and m$Aug 30 14:59
schestowitzIf you  say "illuminati", then say who's in it, otherwise it's a hard sellAug 30 14:59
ender_2600RockefellerAug 30 15:00
MinceRschestowitz: the point of secret societies is that you don't necessarily know who's in them :>Aug 30 15:00
schestowitzPeople like to say someone sits up there controlling everything, but can't name themAug 30 15:00
ender_2600many of the bankersAug 30 15:00
schestowitznames?Aug 30 15:00
ender_2600well roy,Aug 30 15:00
ender_2600you name them yourselfAug 30 15:00
ender_2600someone must be at the topAug 30 15:00
ender_2600prove us wrong by finding out who isAug 30 15:00
schestowitzwhen you know a name, come back to meAug 30 15:00
MinceRschestowitz: can you name the members of the parliament of UK? :>Aug 30 15:01
schestowitzOthrweise it's a deity-like argumentAug 30 15:01
MinceRor the board of directors of m$? :>Aug 30 15:01
schestowitzAbout someone controlling even murdoch from above and yet no evidence of thisAug 30 15:01
ender_2600it must be microsoftAug 30 15:01
ender_2600LOLAug 30 15:01
schestowitzMinceR: they don't control the worldAug 30 15:01
schestowitzthey control a portion of thingsAug 30 15:02
ender_2600im actually asking you Roy why you seem to think Murdock runs the worldAug 30 15:02
schestowitzBut according to brandon, there are people way way up there, but he cannot name themAug 30 15:02
ender_2600im not trying to sell anything, im trying to refuse what you're sellingAug 30 15:02
schestowitzThey would communicate if this was ocordinatedAug 30 15:02
schestowitzAnd then you would manage to name some of themAug 30 15:02
ender_2600part of being in a secret group means you get to hide behind puppetsAug 30 15:02
schestowitzender_2600: Murdock does run the world. He made Debian.Aug 30 15:02
schestowitzDebian runs in many back doorsAug 30 15:03
ender_2600i don't know who runs the illuminati or even if they exist under that name anymoreAug 30 15:03
schestowitzYou're being sold a romantic picture of itAug 30 15:03
schestowitzWhen you know, let me knowAug 30 15:03
schestowitzOtherwise we need evidenceAug 30 15:03
schestowitzThat's what techrights is doingAug 30 15:03
ender_2600i know they invented communism before marxAug 30 15:03
schestowitzI've seen some videos that speak of this "illuminati", but they have no evidenceAug 30 15:04
ender_2600techrights and evidence? LOLAug 30 15:04
schestowitzJust some speaking voiceAug 30 15:04
ender_2600the evidence is in historyAug 30 15:04
schestowitzAnd because there was something called Illuminai that did exist does not mean it meatches their description of it todayAug 30 15:04
schestowitzSame with Bilderberg HotelAug 30 15:04
ender_2600they infiltrated freemasonryAug 30 15:04
ender_2600bilderberg is realAug 30 15:04
schestowitzit isAug 30 15:05
ender_2600bilderberg will get you some namesAug 30 15:05
schestowitzver powetful people thereAug 30 15:05
schestowitzthe meetingsAug 30 15:05
schestowitzincluding top bankersAug 30 15:05
schestowitzSo why not concentrate of those whom we can see?Aug 30 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I hope you'll all join me and the other staff at the !fsf in thanking @bobcallme for his work as a campaigns intern this summer.Aug 30 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The Mozilla Public License - almost 2.0 (part 1) | http://red.ht/q0A1kH #patents #copyleft #opensourceAug 30 15:05
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ender_2600thats a waste of timeAug 30 15:05
ender_2600they are already out there obviouslyAug 30 15:05
schestowitzInstead of some elusive groups whose members you can't name?Aug 30 15:05
ender_2600you'll never get a member listAug 30 15:06
schestowitzlet;'s start with those whom we know conspire in the hallwayAug 30 15:06
ender_2600why waste time on the smaller fishAug 30 15:06
schestowitzso by your logic, is bilderbird meetup a decoy?Aug 30 15:06
ender_2600getting nowhereAug 30 15:06
ender_2600bilderberg is just short term business meetingsAug 30 15:06
schestowitzCause from my POV, if you look for secret elitist societies, then follow ones like Bilderberg folksAug 30 15:06
ender_2600you need to look at the groups they belong toAug 30 15:07
schestowitzIf you find another, let people know,. Tell them to bring cameras :-)Aug 30 15:07
ender_2600anonymous is going to be doing a bilderberg thing soon apparentlyAug 30 15:07
schestowitzender_2600: what groups do they belong to then?Aug 30 15:07
schestowitzand who runs those groups?Aug 30 15:07
ender_2600you haven't looked it up yourself yet?Aug 30 15:07
schestowitz /sarcasm/ Anonymous is Hollywood's plot to sell more V for VendettaAug 30 15:08
ender_2600I posted a number of names here and just the companies they belonged toAug 30 15:08
ender_2600months agoAug 30 15:08
ender_2600sometimes roy you're just a gullible foolAug 30 15:08
schestowitzthe ones you pasted?Aug 30 15:08
schestowitzAnd then asked me to remove?Aug 30 15:08
ender_2600noAug 30 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hollywood hackers after blockbuster scripts, verified Twitter accounts and nude cell phone snapshots (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/qSvALKAug 30 15:09
schestowitzender_2600: ok, I'm a gullible foolAug 30 15:09
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schestowitzanyway, when you have the name of the org or the members, let me knowAug 30 15:09
ender_2600the bilderberg canadian member listAug 30 15:09
schestowitzUntil then, I udge by what existsAug 30 15:09
schestowitzNo "Gods" for meAug 30 15:09
ender_2600RMSAug 30 15:09
schestowitzOr "secret" (invisible) societiesAug 30 15:09
ender_2600is your GodAug 30 15:09
schestowitzExcept those that I see trying to hideAug 30 15:09
ender_2600I've named a number of groups hereAug 30 15:09
ender_2600you ignored it allAug 30 15:10
ender_2600otherwise you wouldn't be asking meAug 30 15:10
ender_2600its in the logsAug 30 15:10
schestowitzFabian?Aug 30 15:10
ender_2600Fabian Society, Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Bilderberg, Council of Foreign Relations, etcAug 30 15:10
ender_2600I sent wayne a chart of connectionsAug 30 15:11
schestowitzThey are powerful groupings with powerful peopleAug 30 15:11
schestowitzAnd we know who is a memberAug 30 15:11
schestowitzCan you show them controlling Murdoch?Aug 30 15:11
ender_2600the freemasons don't keep a public member listAug 30 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Vancouver in Sept - "Art, Revolution and Ownership: Who owns the Public Domain?" Artists in conversation w/copyright: http://bit.ly/ncT2nWAug 30 15:12
ender_2600secret societies don't advertise, nor keep public listsAug 30 15:12
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schestowitzAnd do they include members who are invisible to the public? Because AFAIK, there's no smoking gun.Aug 30 15:12
ender_2600roy seriously, tell me who is running the planet right nowAug 30 15:12
ender_2600you must knowAug 30 15:12
ender_2600if im wrongAug 30 15:12
schestowitzthe US runs the planetAug 30 15:12
schestowitzMostlyAug 30 15:12
ender_2600nopeAug 30 15:13
schestowitzBusinessmen from thereAug 30 15:13
ender_2600cause we KNOW that obama is a puppetAug 30 15:13
schestowitzand the British too has some powerful familiesAug 30 15:13
ender_2600so who runs obamaAug 30 15:13
schestowitzOba,ma I don't care aboutAug 30 15:13
schestowitzHe might be out next yearAug 30 15:13
ender_2600well you just said the US runs the worldAug 30 15:13
ender_2600thats stupidAug 30 15:13
schestowitzmilitary powerAug 30 15:13
ender_2600thats narrow minded short term thinkingAug 30 15:13
schestowitzit's the world's superpowerAug 30 15:13
schestowitzAnd it hosts some of the wealthiest peopleAug 30 15:13
ender_2600china could wipe them outAug 30 15:13
schestowitzChina has some tooAug 30 15:14
schestowitzyeahAug 30 15:14
schestowitzbeat me to itAug 30 15:14
schestowitzBut China does not call the shots yetAug 30 15:14
ender_2600but china is a puppet tooAug 30 15:14
schestowitzIt helps the banks by giving loansAug 30 15:14
ender_2600so who really runs the worldAug 30 15:14
schestowitzWho is China a puppet of then?Aug 30 15:14
schestowitzChina needs the US for purchasingAug 30 15:14
schestowitzender_2600: you tell meAug 30 15:14
ender_2600the UNAug 30 15:15
schestowitzThe world is 'run' by many peopleAug 30 15:15
schestowitzand they all compete for powerAug 30 15:15
schestowitzPearly Gates too wants to run the worldAug 30 15:15
schestowitzBut he has rivalryAug 30 15:15
schestowitzHe also makes allies like the Rockefellers and WarrenBAug 30 15:15
ender_2600its run by a small group of wealthy people who can afford to hide their names, and we need to find out who those people areAug 30 15:15
ender_2600they are hiding from us and they know all about usAug 30 15:15
schestowitzso you don't have namesAug 30 15:15
ender_2600no i dontAug 30 15:16
schestowitzokAug 30 15:16
ender_2600its not hard to hide namesAug 30 15:16
ender_2600thats the whole point in secrecyAug 30 15:16
ender_2600we only have hintsAug 30 15:16
ender_2600groups their puppets belong toAug 30 15:16
ender_2600common denominatorsAug 30 15:17
ender_2600most of it leads to banking families like Rockefellar (a name I named for you) and RothschildAug 30 15:17
schestowitzTo support your claim you'd need to show at least one such super-human unmaskedAug 30 15:18
ender_2600super human?Aug 30 15:18
ender_2600these are just wealthyAug 30 15:18
schestowitzmetaphorically speakingAug 30 15:18
schestowitzpeople running the planet\Aug 30 15:18
schestowitzthe families you mention are not secretAug 30 15:18
schestowitz Rockefellar and Rothschild have been known about for over a decadeAug 30 15:18
schestowitzYou can also catch them in the streets]Aug 30 15:19
ender_2600well you're asking me to commit logical fallacyAug 30 15:19
schestowitzSo I'm not talking about themAug 30 15:19
schestowitzNoAug 30 15:19
schestowitzI say:Aug 30 15:19
ender_2600I can't give you secret family names because then they are no longer secretAug 30 15:19
schestowitzuntil you prove the existence of something you claim is not visible to us, you ask me for faithAug 30 15:19
ender_2600A lot of it has been discovered and has been known for a while and people are just too apathetic do to anythingAug 30 15:19
schestowitz[15:19] <ender_2600> I can't give you secret family names because then they are no longer secretAug 30 15:20
ender_2600it is visibile you just ingore the evidenceAug 30 15:20
schestowitzSo now you contradict yourselfAug 30 15:20
ender_2600noAug 30 15:20
ender_2600not at allAug 30 15:20
schestowitzThose hidden names are no longer hidden?Aug 30 15:20
ender_2600you're asking for "SECRET" familysAug 30 15:20
ender_2600they aren't secret once I know about themAug 30 15:20
ender_2600derp derpAug 30 15:20
schestowitzno, I asked for namesAug 30 15:20
schestowitzAnd you said you could not give anyAug 30 15:20
schestowitzBut now you doAug 30 15:20
ender_2600i've given you namesAug 30 15:20
schestowitzAnd yoi menion well known familiesAug 30 15:20
ender_2600I can't answer impossible questionsAug 30 15:21
ender_2600they aren't well knownAug 30 15:21
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ender_2600you're funny royAug 30 15:23
ender_2600"Tell me the secret ones" "I can't, once they are known they aren't secret. The ones that stay secret I can't name because I don't know about them."Aug 30 15:23
schestowitz[15:21] <ender_2600> they aren't well knownAug 30 15:23
schestowitzbest knownAug 30 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @noyesk Want a Faster Firefox? Pale Moon 6.0 Can Help http://tinyurl.com/3nbqn94 #opensourceAug 30 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware refreshes View VDI software, replicates new features in Citrix's newest XenDesktop (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/pkjglEAug 30 15:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Want a Faster Firefox? Pale Moon 6.0 Can Help | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 75.91 KBAug 30 15:23
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ender_2600"Name names" "Alright well here are some names" "Those are well known!" "Well I can't name the secret ones, thats the definition of secret"Aug 30 15:23
schestowitzfor 100+m yeaRSAug 30 15:24
schestowitzender_2600: buildings named after themAug 30 15:24
ender_2600dudeAug 30 15:24
ender_2600tell me how im going to give you the secret membersAug 30 15:24
ender_2600when they are secretAug 30 15:24
ender_2600but you got my promise, when I found out I'll let you know so you can ignore it for the next official government storyAug 30 15:25
schestowitzokAug 30 15:25
ender_2600when i'veAug 30 15:25
schestowitzthanksAug 30 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @noyesk It's funny to see "you should upgrade" when I already have without even noticing !fedora !firefoxAug 30 15:25
ender_2600for now perhaps you should focus on ones you do see, which is more than just murdochAug 30 15:25
ender_2600bankers are more dangerous than a newspaper manAug 30 15:26
schestowitzI slam bankrs tooAug 30 15:26
schestowitzsee twitter, TRAug 30 15:26
ender_2600World Bank and the IMFAug 30 15:26
ender_2600they need to go downAug 30 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft 'ribbonizes' Windows 8 file manager (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/qWKaWpAug 30 15:27
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schestowitz!google "World Bank" schestowitzAug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Exhibitions & Community - Lauri Recanati Mosaics - Info | http://www.lauri-recanati-mosaics.com/about_exh.aspAug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Carbon Tax, Population Control and the Magical Free Market – oh ... | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/02/23/carbon-tax-population-control-and-the-magical-free-market-oh-my/Aug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2011 February - Qubit ArkHive | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/02/Aug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - World Bank ready to help Libya Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war ... | http://www.infowars.com/world-bank-ready-to-help-libya/Aug 30 15:27
schestowitz!google "IMF" schestowitzAug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - schestowitz.com » 2010 » December | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/page/2/Aug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: May 15th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-15052011.htmlAug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: October 10th, 2009 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/irc-log-10102009.htmlAug 30 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: October 25th, 2010 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/irc-log-techrights-25102010.htmlAug 30 15:27
ender_2600oh im 3 :)Aug 30 15:27
schestowitzoddAug 30 15:27
schestowitzI think it gets the quotes wrongAug 30 15:28
schestowitzthe php thingAug 30 15:28
schestowitzanyhoo..Aug 30 15:28
ender_2600Al qaeda is in LibyaAug 30 15:28
schestowitzI wrote a lot abut themAug 30 15:28
schestowitzBut I'm not an expert in that field, so I don't do it as much as other stuff that needs coveringAug 30 15:28
schestowitzender_2600: the Base?Aug 30 15:29
ender_2600a few commandersAug 30 15:29
ender_2600of the rebelsAug 30 15:29
ender_2600http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.htmlAug 30 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 62.58 KBAug 30 15:31
schestowitzGood for them...Aug 30 15:31
ender_2600the world bank is helping them outAug 30 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Wikileaks cable outs secret iiTrial background: http://t.co/UD0OwuY #iitrialAug 30 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] With Windows 8 file Explorer , Microsoft is "giving people more of what they don't want" (Register): http://bit.ly/q5Fqw0Aug 30 15:32
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 ribbon entangles Microsoft • The Register .::. Size~: 26.71 KBAug 30 15:32
sebsebseb!google Mandriva 2011Aug 30 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 2011 Development - Mandriva Community Wiki | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011_DevelopmentAug 30 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mandriva 2011 “Hydrogen” is out! | Mandriva Blog | http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/08/28/mandriva-2011-hydrogen-is-out/Aug 30 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Mandriva 2011 RC2 is out! | Mandriva Blog | http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/07/27/mandriva-2011-rc2-is-out/Aug 30 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - DistroWatch.com: Mandriva Linux | http://distrowatch.com/mandrivaAug 30 15:32
ender_2600the US seems to have no issues helping al qaeda when it comes to setting up a central bank in LibyaAug 30 15:32
sebsebsebmoreAug 30 15:32
sebsebseb!moreAug 30 15:32
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ender_2600They help al qaeda in the 80s deal with the USSR, then they get attacked by them in 2001. Then they catch bin laden, and start working with al qaeda again.Aug 30 15:34
ender_2600Makes me question 2001Aug 30 15:34
iophkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/20/technology/as-pcs-wane-companies-look-to-tablets.htmlAug 30 15:34
iophkAs PCs Wane, Companies Look to TabletsAug 30 15:34
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Aug 30 15:34
TechrightsBot-trAs PCs Wane, Companies Look to TabletsAug 30 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of RDF 1.1 Concepts and Abstract Syntax Published http://ow.ly/1et8ibAug 30 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] One Week to Register for Mobile Web Online Training Course http://ow.ly/1et8icAug 30 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] XML Security RELAX NG Schemas Draft Published http://ow.ly/1et8iaAug 30 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Report Published from Identity in the Browser Workshop; Charter in Development http://ow.ly/1et8i9Aug 30 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Seven lessons from the HP Touchpad fire sale • The Register http://bit.ly/qC0IE5Aug 30 15:37
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ender_2600I wanted an hp touchpadAug 30 15:39
ender_2600im a sad pandaAug 30 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Idd Mubarak, y'all!Aug 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] @trashbird1240 :)Aug 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] An excoriation of for-profit academic publishers http://bit.ly/nBBphvAug 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nj3ma Idd Mubarak, y'all!Aug 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Interesting concept, dual screen laptop >http://nd.gd/vz /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @yasena @vikGorani @shekeine @RamanusAsangoAug 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian media are doing a great job with latest cable release. A proud example to follow.Aug 30 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An excoriation of for-profit academic publishers « Jabberwocky Ecology .::. Size~: 43.84 KBAug 30 15:40
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ender_2600http://pytools.codeplex.com/Aug 30 15:43
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ender_2600interestingAug 30 15:43
ender_2600Free & Open Source (Apache 2.0) Aug 30 15:44
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ender_2600You should be happy they use Apache 2.0Aug 30 15:44
ender_2600You could take the code, make changes and wrap the GPL around bothAug 30 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Desktop 2011 in round figures http://ur1.ca/4znb3 "more than 22600 packages in repositories;"Aug 30 15:48
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schestowitzFor Microsoft tools?Aug 30 15:49
schestowitzI could also turn grass into a mealAug 30 15:49
ender_2600or into a smokeAug 30 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Example of recent Australian reportage http://t.co/0rhHsoMAug 30 16:00
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ender_2600amusing fact: the day after skype gets purchased by microsoft you refrain from using itAug 30 16:02
iophkhttp://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/1973/e/ar52.htmlAug 30 16:03
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iophk(2) The following in particular shall not be regarded as inventions within the meaning of http://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/1973/e/ar52.html:… (c) schemes, rules and methods for performing mental acts, playing games or doing business, and programs for computers;Aug 30 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Why are Google being digital rednecks? Your views invited... http://wmk.me/pLD0jpAug 30 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Crikey's initial choice picks from WikiLeaks latest release http://t.co/PH3NzuQAug 30 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Declaring war on the Fundamental Theorem of Natural Selection http://wp.me/pT1St-8a #sex_math_programmingAug 30 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick Look at #Sabayon 6 Continued (KDE) http://ur1.ca/4znd8 !kde #gentooAug 30 16:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux, BSD, and everything else...: Quick Look at Sabayon 6 Continued (KDE) .::. Size~: 123.14 KBAug 30 16:08
ender_2600Webmink is kind of an idiot/headline abuserAug 30 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] From the TouchPad's ashes rises the phoenix of open source: http://ping.fm/2K1p4Aug 30 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware's View, along with vSphere, can provision up to 1,000 desktops in an hour Herrod @ #VMworldAug 30 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the TouchPad's ashes rises the phoenix of open source | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.03 KBAug 30 16:25
iophkschestowitz: can the techrights bot be programmed to resolve the shortened URLs to real URLs ?Aug 30 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 2011-08-30 (by Eye-Fi) https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233/5646627643274725634Aug 30 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US and Australia conspired to stop Mohamed ElBaradei’s re-election at the IAEA http://t.co/BuMBZPMAug 30 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @yareckon http://ur1.ca/4bs0m the big thing in Windows 8 is basically an oldschool 'nix tiling window manager on a touchscreen !linux ...Aug 30 16:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building "Windows 8" - Video #1       - YouTube .::. Size~: 72.93 KBAug 30 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian vs. US health care system according to US embassy http://t.co/HYRNsxbAug 30 16:45
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ender_2600schestowitz - konquerer is good with webkitAug 30 16:53
ender_2600im experimenting with it as an i2p browserAug 30 16:53
ender_2600it doesnt seem to phone homeAug 30 16:55
ender_2600I think I like arora better stillAug 30 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks looks into the dark heart of the Vatican http://t.co/9ziC2P3Aug 30 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hmm, wonder if iTunes Match would have copies of my Beatles & Stones bootlegs (SlashGear): http://bit.ly/mToSi0Aug 30 17:02
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: iTunes Match Beta released to developers - SlashGear .::. Size~: 49.46 KBAug 30 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cable: US pressured EU to approve Oracle-Sun merger http://ur1.ca/4zmt6 we already knew that at the time. Kerry was part of it. #sun #oracleAug 30 17:03
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FoundAug 30 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thunderbird 7 enters beta http://ur1.ca/4znzg "Mozilla has released the first beta of version 7.0 of its open source Thunderbird"Aug 30 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 USA Today giving space to #war criminal Cheney's reputation laundering. But does it give space to critics of American Wars?Aug 30 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: USA Today pushing #war machine's #Libya narrative—refers to NATO/"rebel" controlled areas as "free". Orwell approves.Aug 30 17:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderbird 7 enters beta - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.12 KBAug 30 17:05
schestowitziophk: I asked the devAug 30 17:06
schestowitzSecondary oneAug 30 17:06
schestowitzwho extendedAug 30 17:06
schestowitzNo response from the orig. devAug 30 17:06
schestowitzender_2600: how is arora better? I heard good things..Aug 30 17:07
schestowitzI need multi-line tabs in KonqAug 30 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks In 2008, Bank of America receives $20bil from the people, in 2010 BoA bans the people from donating to !wl http://t.co/fWtDMXGAug 30 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 30 17:07
schestowitzand some other minor featuresAug 30 17:07
schestowitzkeyboard navigation b/w tabsAug 30 17:07
schestowitzfor exampleAug 30 17:07
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82081718Aug 30 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 14:36:02 UTC - Identi.ca: New Distribution: Dream Studio Introduced http://ur1.ca/4zn9b distros multiply, spread. #gnu #linuxAug 30 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: New Distribution:  Dream Studio Introduced .::. Size~: 38.09 KBAug 30 17:08
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82081775Aug 30 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 14:37:18 UTC - Identi.ca: As PCs Wane, Companies Look to Tablets http://ur1.ca/4zn9h and #tablets run Linux, except Apple's tabletAug 30 17:08
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Aug 30 17:08
ender_2600its webkit basedAug 30 17:08
ender_2600less bloatAug 30 17:09
schestowitzkonq is relatively lightweightAug 30 17:09
schestowitzit's also used in other parts of kdeAug 30 17:09
schestowitzso shared libsAug 30 17:09
ender_2600same with aroraAug 30 17:09
ender_2600less depsAug 30 17:09
ender_2600just QtAug 30 17:09
ender_2600I just don't like the way konq worksAug 30 17:10
ender_2600it feels slow and it feels as responsive as IEAug 30 17:10
ender_2600which is an insult but im being honestAug 30 17:11
ender_2600it doesnt seem to want to let you take over when its still loading its first pageAug 30 17:11
ender_2600im thinking of making my own fedora spinAug 30 17:12
ender_2600PwnageOSAug 30 17:12
ender_2600I'm going to make packages of the stuff they add to Cherimoya and make a spin with itAug 30 17:13
ender_2600Arch linux as a based isnt as secure as FedoraAug 30 17:13
ender_2600baseAug 30 17:13
ender_2600their wish list has things fedora already doesAug 30 17:14
ender_2600selinux etcAug 30 17:14
ender_2600plus i2p works with the build in openjdkAug 30 17:14
ender_2600no need for proprietary javaAug 30 17:14
iophkthanks for asking the devAug 30 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ioerror: Dear everyone in #iran and the rest of the world: REMOVE #DigiNotar from your browser trust root. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL! REM ...Aug 30 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux Foundation chief talks about Torvalds' leadership, !HTML5 and mobile's future - Network World http://goo.gl/sOAMeAug 30 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 2008, Bank of America receives bil from the people, in 2010 BoA bans the people from donating to Wikileaks. http://t.co/fWtDMXGAug 30 17:25
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schestowitziophk: np, he's in this channel sometimesAug 30 17:28
schestowitzI could look at the code myself and see if I can fix itAug 30 17:28
schestowitzIt seems simpleAug 30 17:28
schestowitzsince you already decode the URL for the titles...Aug 30 17:28
schestowitzI could also use the perl side to expand itAug 30 17:29
schestowitzBut that would require more workAug 30 17:29
schestowitzI'd have checked it now, but I gotta run meet a friend....Aug 30 17:30
schestowitzJust posted daily links Aug 30 17:30
schestowitz2 desktps running experiments now on the serverAug 30 17:30
schestowitzback in 3 hoursAug 30 17:30
iophkok have funAug 30 17:30
iophkLinux Foundation chief talks about Torvalds' leadership, HTML5 and mobile's future — 2nd page misses the OEM monopoly which causes the desktop monopolyAug 30 17:32
iophkbreak the OEM monopoly and there will soon be Linux on the desktops becauseAug 30 17:32
iophkit functions better and allows for higher profit marginsAug 30 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 30/8/2011: Many New Linux Tablets, Thunderbird 7 Beta http://ur1.ca/4zo2o !techrightsAug 30 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 2008, Bank of America receives bil from the people, in 2010 BoA bans the people from donating to Wikileaks. http://t.co/fWtDMXGAug 30 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 30/8/2011: Many New Linux Tablets, Thunderbird 7 Beta http://ur1.ca/4zo2o #techrightsAug 30 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Scientists sequence Black Death bacteria DNA, admit they were wrong ⚫ By John Timmer http://goo.gl/ssfbNAug 30 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Israel collected gossip from several senior Labor Party contacts that Rudd was jealous of Gillard http://t.co/MjjUtCFAug 30 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] #funtoo updates are back. I forgot to start cron on the new system - sorry :/Aug 30 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun We just released: Linux Outlaws 225 - Chicken Herding (OggCamp 11 Recap) > http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/225Aug 30 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] X Server 1.11, new kernel maintenance strategy http://t.co/ltdXhAw #inbrief #driver #linux #kernel #longtermAug 30 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] For those of you who missed it, check out the first Art of Community 2nd Ed video update - http://is.gd/y7DBQ9 #artofcommunity #cls11Aug 30 17:57
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ender_2600I might base my spin off of another spinAug 30 18:04
ender_2600NST 2.15.0Aug 30 18:04
ender_2600Fedora 15 with a hacked kernel that seems to be able to do wifi crackingAug 30 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] The @webosinternals community has been very supportive of #funtoo on TouchPad...Aug 30 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] for #funtoo on TouchPad, I am making progress. Got metro running natively -- going to see if I can avoid cross-compiling :)Aug 30 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RAM prices set to hit 'free fall' • The Register http://bit.ly/oNv1hAAug 30 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh remind me to make @fabbot some time now that you've just about left :DAug 30 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] So when does academic publishing get disrupted? (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/pTlvtWAug 30 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So when does academic publishing get disrupted? — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 75.59 KBAug 30 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Notice a Faster Web Today? Thank the Global Internet Speedup http://tinyurl.com/3v29k6cAug 30 18:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notice a Faster Web Today? Thank the Global Internet Speedup | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 68.64 KBAug 30 18:35
iophkTechrights site gives a 503 error Aug 30 18:51
iophkError 503 Service UnavailableAug 30 18:51
iophkWorks nowAug 30 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #visitsiliconvalley. Met Halli and these cute robots at CISCO. http://t.co/EgFvL6L http://p.ost.im/p/eLxSLpAug 30 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/456875/rssAug 30 19:03
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ender_2600fools!Aug 30 19:08
*MinceR waits for ender_2600's evil monologueAug 30 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good Evening !Identiverse !tzagAug 30 19:18
koolhead17schestowitz hey dudeAug 30 19:22
*koolhead17 looks at jonoAug 30 19:23
koolhead17hello allAug 30 19:23
koolhead17:PAug 30 19:23
koolhead17MinceR: :DAug 30 19:23
MinceRo/Aug 30 19:24
*koolhead17 got something bigAug 30 19:24
MinceRew, put it awayAug 30 19:25
koolhead17MinceR: one of the state in india is giving 900, 000 laptops to students in first phaseAug 30 19:27
koolhead17so they put a tender asking 4 dual boot quotation Aug 30 19:27
koolhead17just day before they announce bidder, they revoked the tender and came with new tender where they put only MSFT as optionAug 30 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Most unfortunate name for a CEO of a charity - http://is.gd/RDzgkHAug 30 19:28
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MinceRm$ probably paid upAug 30 19:29
koolhead17MinceR: they have certainly. Apart from threatening  vendors to put dual boot Aug 30 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF supports the Tunisian Internet Agency in protecting online free expression https://eff.org/r.1BjAug 30 19:30
koolhead17and increase dual bootAug 30 19:30
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MinceRi don't see what they even need winblows for in the first placeAug 30 19:30
koolhead17i wish one day Canonical starts making some money to pay some to the OEM fuckersAug 30 19:31
koolhead17thats the pointAug 30 19:31
koolhead17i hate OEM to coreAug 30 19:31
koolhead17am buying Acer cos it comes without MSFTAug 30 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Check out this article on burnout from Bruce - http://is.gd/q8DKjI - thanks for including my input, Bruce! #burnoutAug 30 19:32
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koolhead17i met Mr. shuttleworth during desktop summit thought of telling him about OEM shitAug 30 19:34
MinceRand?Aug 30 19:39
koolhead17spoke about few thingsAug 30 19:40
koolhead17and told him  if he can spend some money in hiring good marketing folks to meet govts Aug 30 19:41
koolhead17:DAug 30 19:41
MinceRwhat did he say?Aug 30 19:41
koolhead17he smiled and rushedAug 30 19:48
koolhead17i just wonder one day they realize ubuntu is for enterprise not only for hobbyist and home user :DAug 30 19:49
MinceRah, the well known canonical answer: nothing at allAug 30 19:55
MinceRwe're used to thatAug 30 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] I am really liking http://govsgo.com -- if you play Go, challenge me to a game. #go #badukAug 30 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks on the New York Times: 'Drooling, Senile & Evil' http://t.co/PtVqPUIAug 30 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GIMP 2.7.3 adds Single Window Mode (Linux Journal) http://lwn.net/Articles/456916/rssAug 30 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Herbert Snorrason is not, and has never been, a WikiLeaks staffer.Aug 30 20:00
koolhead17MinceR: Aug 30 20:01
koolhead17hahaAug 30 20:01
MinceRthough it's usually given in a more verbose formAug 30 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Australia changed pro-Israel vote after Mossad forged passports scandal | JPost http://t.co/SNtff3bAug 30 20:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks Cable Offers New Insights Into Oracle-Sun Deal http://t.co/YL6ywkfAug 30 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] What could we send #EA to help them spy on users? Maybe a bunch of bugs? !dbd (http://ur1.ca/4zonh)Aug 30 20:12
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koolhead17hahahaAug 30 20:14
DrumScumha, some good 'ole 'buntu bashin' ;-)Aug 30 20:15
koolhead17DrumScum: ScumAug 30 20:19
koolhead17wassupAug 30 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @johnsu01 What could we send #EA to help them spy on users? Maybe a bunch of bugs? !dbd (http://ur1.ca/4zonh)Aug 30 20:30
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ender_260015:40 < koolhead17> he smiled and rushedAug 30 20:31
ender_260015:47 <@MinceR> ah, the well known canonical answer: nothing at allAug 30 20:31
ender_2600yeah, thats why he smiled first :)Aug 30 20:31
koolhead17well at same time i thanked him for changing my life. Ubuntu has big role to play where i am right now. i love ubuntu and will always do it for that :)Aug 30 20:34
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koolhead17schestowitz waiting for your blogAug 30 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @jwildeboer While the root certificates of CAcert have a hard time making it to browsers, insecure companies have no prob. #diginotar ...Aug 30 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 116 dents!Aug 30 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Is China's nuclear power risky? #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/RisS9E2Aug 30 20:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Monsanto Interests Guide U.S. Diplomacy, WikiLeaks Cables Show. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/pb4XSAJAug 30 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: The Ruias-led Essar Group denies #Cablegate report that it paid Maoists. #WikiLeaks http://t.co/CU3UdxFAug 30 21:00
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schestowitzhi koolhead17Aug 30 21:03
schestowitzhang on while I catch up (been swimming)Aug 30 21:03
schestowitz[17:32] <iophk> break the OEM monopoly and there will soon be Linux on the desktops becauseAug 30 21:03
schestowitzLinux Foundation is PRAug 30 21:03
koolhead17schestowitz yes lets do itAug 30 21:04
schestowitzAmanda and that other ladyAug 30 21:04
koolhead17its fsckin gOEMAug 30 21:04
koolhead17:(Aug 30 21:04
schestowitzSo they don't do hard talkAug 30 21:04
koolhead17OEM is result of what i mailed uAug 30 21:04
schestowitzNoAug 30 21:04
schestowitzSee my reply thoughAug 30 21:04
schestowitzI gotta get something published for work firstAug 30 21:04
schestowitzSo tomorrow I will catch up with techrightsAug 30 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: US forces repeatedly 'commit crimes' in Iraq. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate (via @issylvia) http://t.co/Ds5STb8Aug 30 21:05
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schestowitz[19:41] <koolhead17> and told him  if he can spend some money in hiring good marketing folks to meet govts Aug 30 21:06
schestowitzCanonical PR weakenedAug 30 21:06
koolhead17schestowitz as in?Aug 30 21:06
schestowitzask joonAug 30 21:06
schestowitzI told him...Aug 30 21:07
schestowitzUbuntu does  not promote itself like it used toAug 30 21:07
schestowitzwe need to be careful of ubuntu==Linux duality nowAug 30 21:07
koolhead17joon?Aug 30 21:07
schestowitzjonoAug 30 21:07
schestowitzhold on...Aug 30 21:07
koolhead17ooh.Aug 30 21:07
schestowitzI'm only ha;lf on the chaiback in  moAug 30 21:07
koolhead17kAug 30 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Mondoweiss: Wikileaks: US Embassy officials saw marginalization & removal of Negev Bedouins upclose (and said nothing publicly) http ...Aug 30 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] More than 600 people have signed the !FSF petition asking #ThisAmericanLife to use Ogg: http://ur1.ca/4zox4 Don't get left out! !playoggAug 30 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NaNoWriMo marker: Shadows & Light as either one standalone novel in two parts, or a duology #motivationAug 30 21:13
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schestowitzOKAug 30 21:16
schestowitzNow I can actually type down sittingAug 30 21:16
schestowitzkoolhead17: Sometimes I just get back and get a Zeitgeist without properly sitting. I mailed you back, now caught up with IRC.Aug 30 21:17
schestowitzDo you prefer writing the article which covers it?Aug 30 21:17
schestowitzI need to HTMLify the docsAug 30 21:17
koolhead17schestowitz: no i will not write.Aug 30 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: @_ElFaro_ : En 2006 EUA negoció con el PCN los votos para apoyar el envío de tropas a Iraq. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t. ...Aug 30 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf More than 600 people have signed the !FSF petition asking #ThisAmericanLife to use Ogg: http://ur1.ca/4zox4 Don't get left out! ...Aug 30 21:18
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ender_2600koolhead17 - I'm a Fedora man myselfAug 30 21:21
koolhead17ender_2600: well i love every linux distroAug 30 21:22
koolhead17its just everyone one has prefernce and i find Ubuntu best for me. i just love itAug 30 21:22
ender_2600I used to like UbuntuAug 30 21:23
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ender_2600doesn't have the same quality of KDE that i'm used toAug 30 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: US Ambassador pointed to various theories in murder of Guyana Minister of Agriculture Sash Sawh. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http ...Aug 30 21:25
schestowitzyeahAug 30 21:25
schestowitzfedora makes a nice kde spin, f14 failed on me in some waysAug 30 21:26
schestowitzf11 tooAug 30 21:26
ender_2600oh?Aug 30 21:26
schestowitzkubuntu gave me the least hassle so farAug 30 21:26
ender_2600how did it failAug 30 21:26
schestowitzin mandriva I had some issues tooAug 30 21:26
ender_2600what issuesAug 30 21:26
schestowitzender_2600: see my blog posts from oct-dec 2010Aug 30 21:26
schestowitzin mandriva it was compixAug 30 21:27
schestowitzzcompizAug 30 21:27
schestowitznot kwinAug 30 21:27
schestowitzwith the compiz settingsAug 30 21:27
schestowitzearly kdeAug 30 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @ludost There's a very small difference between the "Information Age" and the "Surveillance society". #vincentmosco !qAug 30 21:27
ender_2600f14 is a lot newer than 2010Aug 30 21:27
schestowitzkde 4.3 in mandrivaAug 30 21:27
schestowitzand pulseaudioAug 30 21:27
schestowitzand adobe reader was a pile of ******Aug 30 21:27
ender_2600kde 4.3 was in f11Aug 30 21:27
ender_2600so was 4.4Aug 30 21:27
ender_2600fedora-kde uses okularAug 30 21:28
DaemonFCMandriva is just weird nowAug 30 21:28
ender_2600which is the best pdf readerAug 30 21:28
schestowitzin f11 it was gpun driver artefactsAug 30 21:28
ender_2600gpun?Aug 30 21:28
MinceRfile associations can be changedAug 30 21:28
schestowitzand x crashing if I did x forwarding from a newer versionAug 30 21:28
DaemonFCand you only get one release a year combined with it already being outdatedAug 30 21:28
MinceRi use okular and evince (whichever happens to suck less at the moment)Aug 30 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I like how she's got the girls and the guys in the same costumes http://bit.ly/mR24Cz #youtube #lady_gagaAug 30 21:28
schestowitzMinceR: I do tooAug 30 21:28
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ender_2600okular is really good at extracting contentAug 30 21:29
schestowitzreader sort of takes over associations for some casesAug 30 21:29
schestowitzPlasma and other apps are not unified in filetypesAug 30 21:29
schestowitzit's outlandishAug 30 21:29
ender_2600yupAug 30 21:29
schestowitzbrbAug 30 21:29
ender_2600file associations are a pain in the ass with kde and gnomeAug 30 21:29
DaemonFCeverything is a pain in the ass with GNOMEAug 30 21:29
ender_2600even kdeAug 30 21:29
DaemonFCnow that they decided you shouldn't even be able to change fonts or themesAug 30 21:30
MinceRi don't install adobe reader, there's no pointAug 30 21:30
DaemonFCMinceR: sure there isAug 30 21:30
ender_2600yeah mandriva gives you that proprietary nonsenseAug 30 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cablegate#2 downunder, a review http://t.co/TZDE4XgAug 30 21:30
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ender_2600there is no use for adobe readerAug 30 21:30
MinceRDaemonFC: to render pdfs in the slowest possible way?Aug 30 21:30
ender_2600adobe reader causes global warmingAug 30 21:30
DaemonFCmost bloated PDF Reader even and it has a proven record of never being without open security vulnerabilitiesAug 30 21:31
MinceRDaemonFC: or to get the latest pdf plugin vulnerabilities?Aug 30 21:31
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MinceR(has adobe figured out already that it is actually possible to keep a buffer for one/two rendered pages instead of rerendering the whole page to display another thin strip every time you scroll?)Aug 30 21:32
MinceRhm, there's another point to adobe reader: if you think your apps are too consistent, it can help with thatAug 30 21:32
DaemonFCMinceR: they probably hardcoded some of this 20 years ago for Windows 3.1Aug 30 21:34
DaemonFC:)Aug 30 21:34
MinceR:>Aug 30 21:34
DaemonFCnow that the work of maintaining it has been outsourced to Bangalore, don't count on it being fixedAug 30 21:34
MinceRsince it's adobe, i don't count on it being fixedAug 30 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240 Did she learn it from Pilobolus? http://bit.ly/q4DuaqAug 30 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New Swedish & Australian cables now searchable http://t.co/FWDeoKMAug 30 21:35
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DaemonFCyeah, it took them 6 years to finally release a beta of 64-bit Flash that might not be another fake outAug 30 21:35
DaemonFC:)Aug 30 21:36
schestowitz[21:30] <MinceR> i don't install adobe reader, there's no pointAug 30 21:36
schestowitzin 2008 there was..Aug 30 21:36
schestowitzOkular IIIRC  AFAIK did not handle annotation so wellAug 30 21:36
DaemonFCwell, Adobe lists Reader as a dependency of Flash in their Yum repository for FedoraAug 30 21:36
DaemonFCthat's classyAug 30 21:36
DaemonFCjust because Flash is a necessary evil doesn't mean the user needs their other crapAug 30 21:37
schestowitzwhat else? :-)Aug 30 21:37
DaemonFCthey bring it all in anywayAug 30 21:37
schestowitzFlash: necessary evil (Reader)Aug 30 21:38
schestowitzEvil is necessaryAug 30 21:38
DaemonFCEvil begets evil, shooting at it will only make it stronger. ;)Aug 30 21:38
schestowitzlike mono in old mandriva oo.orgAug 30 21:38
schestowitzuse onion and a crossAug 30 21:38
DaemonFCgarlic you mean?Aug 30 21:39
schestowitzwhateverAug 30 21:39
schestowitzI'm no vampire expertAug 30 21:39
schestowitzNever met oneAug 30 21:39
DaemonFCyou want a dead vampire or one with bad breath and gas?Aug 30 21:39
MinceR224629 < DaemonFC> Evil begets evil, shooting at it will only make it stronger. ;)Aug 30 21:39
MinceRwrong weapon, thenAug 30 21:39
DaemonFCMinceR: The Fifth ElementAug 30 21:40
MinceRnot big enough, to be specificAug 30 21:40
DaemonFCyou've seen it right?Aug 30 21:40
MinceRi haveAug 30 21:40
MinceRhave you seen Aliens?Aug 30 21:40
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIW8Ioi-KewAug 30 21:40
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DaemonFCBig Baada Boom!Aug 30 21:40
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJhlD6q71YAAug 30 21:42
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DaemonFCahhhAug 30 21:42
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2011/08/03/google-should-publicly-oppose-software-patents/Aug 30 21:43
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schestowitzDaemonFC: catchyAug 30 21:43
schestowitzWhere's it from?Aug 30 21:43
DaemonFCin the fifth element soundtrack is where I heard itAug 30 21:44
*schestowitz can imagine DaemonFC doing bellydance around his apartments block, trying to entuice ex-consAug 30 21:44
DaemonFCO_OAug 30 21:44
schestowitzThat songAug 30 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I have to get to !Ubuntu 11.04 soon or it won't be worth it. It would be the first version I've skipped (been using Fedora since 14 arrived)Aug 30 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Free Software Contributed to the Success of Steve Jobs and Apple - http://oreil.ly/oQFKig important point often overlookedAug 30 21:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/108641293772660736Aug 30 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @noyesk @schestowitz Confident wld overstate it ,but I get a strong feeling they're rushing; or y so many press releases, so close togetherAug 30 21:49
schestowitz^mozillaAug 30 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Copyright Only For the Big Guys? - http://bit.ly/qxFi59 ah, yes: hypocrisy, thy name is copyrightAug 30 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zemlin got headline-trolled by the #Microsoft booster from IDG (Julie): http://ur1.ca/4zp0y #linuxAug 30 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court Acquits 15-Year-Old Schoolboy File-Sharer - http://bit.ly/oEOmGQ I should hope so: shame on prosecutor & society tht brings such casesAug 30 21:50
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MinceRgnAug 30 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Myth of the #Tangut Ritual Language - http://bit.ly/qbsKPR pretty amazing stuff #linguisticsAug 30 21:52
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ender_2600http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-41583/TS-454785.mp3Aug 30 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is China's nuclear power risky? http://ur1.ca/4zp16 #US govt. markets for #geAug 30 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Glyphosate commonly found in rain and streams- USGS - http://bit.ly/pHVaX7 this is seriously bad stuffAug 30 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Monsanto Interests Guide U.S. Diplomacy, WikiLeaks Cables Show http://ur1.ca/4zoya this is what taxpayers pay for: lobbyingAug 30 21:53
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koolhead17schestowitz another news Rs. 50,000 sanctioned to every Member of Parliament for buying ipad #sarkaripadAug 30 21:56
schestowitzwhat's ipad?Aug 30 21:57
koolhead17apple padAug 30 21:57
koolhead17:PAug 30 21:57
schestowitzapple?Aug 30 21:57
schestowitzlike what you eat apples on?Aug 30 21:57
schestowitzI remember IpaqAug 30 21:57
ender_260017:24 <@MinceR> (has adobe figured out already that it is actually possible toAug 30 21:57
schestowitzIt was kind of OK for its timeAug 30 21:57
ender_2600                keep a buffer for one/two rendered pages instead of rerenderingAug 30 21:57
ender_2600                the whole page to display another thin strip every time youAug 30 21:58
ender_2600                scroll?)Aug 30 21:58
ender_2600probably using too much strcpyAug 30 21:58
ender_260017:28 < DaemonFC> well, Adobe lists Reader as a dependency of Flash in their Yum repository for FedoraAug 30 21:58
ender_2600I know, I don't install flash that way anymoreAug 30 21:58
ender_2600they also don't maintain the 64-bit version so manual install is a must anywaysAug 30 21:59
ender_2600reader was never good for its timeAug 30 21:59
MinceR230449 < koolhead17> schestowitz another news Rs. 50,000 sanctioned to every Member of Parliament for buying ipad #sarkaripadAug 30 21:59
ender_2600it has been a bloated piece of shit since 6.xAug 30 21:59
MinceRsounds like Sarkoma took a page from our nazis' bookAug 30 21:59
MinceRor whoeverAug 30 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just had several sensitive documents leaked to me, showing corruption. Will research and publish these during the week... !techrightsAug 30 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Several leaked documents that reached !techrights were never published because the people who submitted these were afraid of retaliation.Aug 30 22:00
schestowitzMinceR: Viktor?Aug 30 22:01
MinceRthey did buy themselves hypePads from taxpayers' money hereAug 30 22:01
MinceRanyway, i'm offAug 30 22:01
koolhead17ender_2600: whatever it is irony is govenment is so bend to have it in placeAug 30 22:02
koolhead17:PAug 30 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #CLIMATE SHOCK: UC-Berkeley Scientist, Dr. John Harte, Puts the World on Notice - http://onforb.es/ronBS9 when are people going to wake up?Aug 30 22:02
koolhead17MinceR: its taxpayers maoneyAug 30 22:02
koolhead17:PAug 30 22:02
koolhead17moneyAug 30 22:02
DaemonFChttp://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/08/president-obamas-uncle-arrested-for-dui-white-house-not-commenting.htmlAug 30 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung to invest $9.3 billion in R&D to help boost smartphone competitiveness - http://tnw.co/mXE4sU actually, they just want more patentsAug 30 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Harnessing citizen participation via social media and open source tools by @krazykriz | http://red.ht/r1u9Qn #govloopAug 30 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "PC world is reporting HP is going ahead with more tablet manufacture to fulfill demand." http://ur1.ca/4zp22Aug 30 22:03
DaemonFCthis isn't the first illegal immigrant relative of Obama who has made the newsAug 30 22:04
DaemonFChis aunt was not only illegally here, but living in taxpayer subsidized housingAug 30 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Classical Music Needs Spotify - http://bit.ly/nxz4uL certainly an amazing resourceAug 30 22:05
schestowitzkoolhead17: DaemonFC: they don't act like civil servants, do they?Aug 30 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Pakistan Officially Bans All #Encryption Online - http://bit.ly/rcwxb1 whoa, terrible precedent, but probably unworkableAug 30 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple Has Finally Pulled Financial Times From iOS - http://bit.ly/p7DuFD no surprise there... #controlfreakeryAug 30 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android sets records again, as Windows Phone 7 languishes, comScore says http://ur1.ca/4zp2j #Linux gains where hardware gainsAug 30 22:08
koolhead17schestowitz they act like how to eat taxpayers money :DAug 30 22:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: Obam'a aunt is now himAug 30 22:09
schestowitzDon't judge him by someone else's actionsAug 30 22:09
DaemonFCis anyone in his family a US citizen?Aug 30 22:09
schestowitz*not himAug 30 22:09
DaemonFCand why can't we apply the same laws to them as any other illegal immigrant?Aug 30 22:09
schestowitzhis grandparents at the leastAug 30 22:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: all "Americans" are immigrantsAug 30 22:09
schestowitzEven First PeopleAug 30 22:10
schestowitzkoolhead17: they pass tax[ayers money to friendsAug 30 22:10
schestowitzAnd later their friends pay them backAug 30 22:10
koolhead17yes Aug 30 22:10
schestowitzAfter the termAug 30 22:10
schestowitzSometimes using jobsAug 30 22:10
schestowitzRevolving doorsAug 30 22:10
schestowitzIt's a known way to convert political power into cashAug 30 22:10
koolhead17yesAug 30 22:10
schestowitzOr if you hold a position in public office and want to turn that into fortuneAug 30 22:11
schestowitzThese people thus have to be identified and tossedAug 30 22:11
schestowitzppreferably in jail]Aug 30 22:11
schestowitzBut it's considered petty crimeAug 30 22:11
schestowitzLess serious than shopliftingAug 30 22:11
schestowitzThese people should be in jail, but here they are being glamourised as shrewed businessmen :-)Aug 30 22:12
schestowitz*shrewdAug 30 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Woman Buys a Block of Wood with an Apple Logo Thinking It’s an iPad - http://gaw.kr/nNTerI obviously a fake: it didn't have rounded cornersAug 30 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zemlin's interview (where he got trolled) is now being pushed into /. with an even more trollish headline. Thankfully Malda quit.Aug 30 22:13
ender_260017:54 < koolhead17> ender_2600: whatever it is irony is govenment is so bend to have it in placeAug 30 22:15
ender_2600government is a rich boys club to help themselves stay rich and get free goodiesAug 30 22:15
ender_2600Toronto city council members used to get free bus serviceAug 30 22:15
koolhead17govenment is run by tainted goons and thiefsAug 30 22:15
ender_2600yeahAug 30 22:16
ender_2600goons for the richAug 30 22:16
ender_2600in Canada our politicians are in the same tax bracket as the richAug 30 22:16
ender_2600making any changes to the taxes for the rich something which also effects themselvesAug 30 22:16
ender_2600at least the rich are in a higher bracketAug 30 22:16
ender_2600not so in the USAAug 30 22:16
koolhead17heeAug 30 22:20
koolhead17hAug 30 22:20
koolhead17here in india politicinsAug 30 22:20
koolhead17pay almost no taxAug 30 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Where Should I Put My Money Before Things Collapse? - http://bit.ly/p1kKqq excellent answer #resilienceAug 30 22:20
DaemonFCender_2600: Congressmen voted themselves a retirement planAug 30 22:21
DaemonFCAND a better health plan than most people will ever getAug 30 22:22
DaemonFC:)Aug 30 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @beygi If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? if not now, when? !q HillelAug 30 22:22
DaemonFCender_2600: It's how they can best milk you and use the position for personal gainAug 30 22:23
DaemonFCdon't you know that? :)Aug 30 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: #Apple Has Finally Pulled Financial Times From iOS - http://bit.ly/p7DuFD no surprise there... #controlfreakeryAug 30 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Linux Foundation chief: 'You are an idiot' if you don't give back to open source - http://bit.ly/pv4smp nice to see the kid gloves come offAug 30 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf More than 600 people have signed the !FSF petition asking #ThisAmericanLife to use Ogg: http://ur1.ca/4zox4 Don't get left out! ...Aug 30 22:23
ender_2600w00t fedora didnt crash deleting opensuse's lvmAug 30 22:25
DaemonFCit's nice to see them finally using GRUB 2Aug 30 22:25
DaemonFCdoes it now let you install to XFS?Aug 30 22:25
DaemonFCor did they make up a new excuse no to?Aug 30 22:26
ender_2600xfs suxx0rzAug 30 22:26
ender_2600I think grub2 probably pushed back btrfsAug 30 22:26
ender_2600who knowsAug 30 22:26
DaemonFCGRUB 2 is licensed under GPL v3Aug 30 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I don't know what it is with some mainstream tech journos -they seem to use about 3x the words they need to make a point - it's tiringAug 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EU parliaments consider open source XML tools for legal documents http://ur1.ca/4zp4y #odf and not #ooxml which has #corruption all over itAug 30 22:27
DaemonFCthe btrfs file system code is only licensed under v2Aug 30 22:27
ender_2600I don't think thats whyAug 30 22:27
ender_2600not license issuesAug 30 22:27
DaemonFCso you get an incompatible license warning every time you boot it on Ubuntu anywayAug 30 22:27
ender_2600technical onesAug 30 22:27
DaemonFCit's a nice way of saying it's a GPL violation the way they've rigged it upAug 30 22:27
ender_2600if grub doesn't boot a gplv3 OS?Aug 30 22:28
ender_2600or filesystem?Aug 30 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] To be fair, I suppose they're paid by word volume?Aug 30 22:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/108650797985841153Aug 30 22:29
schestowitzA lot of bad things are being unravelled by wikileaks this+last week. Good for truth.Aug 30 22:29
ender_2600I wonder when they'll leak the US+Israel cablesAug 30 22:30
schestowitzthey have alreadyAug 30 22:30
ender_2600reallyAug 30 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was going to name names, but I regained my discretion just in time :)Aug 30 22:30
schestowitzmaybe you didn't pat attention to itAug 30 22:30
ender_2600where?Aug 30 22:30
schestowitzyes, thousands of themAug 30 22:30
schestowitzAbout 4000 cablesAug 30 22:30
schestowitzwikleaks.orgAug 30 22:30
ender_2600last I heard israel was paying to keep them outAug 30 22:30
schestowitzand mirrorsAug 30 22:30
schestowitznopeAug 30 22:30
schestowitzand wikileaks' account also emphasises thoseAug 30 22:31
DaemonFC:)Aug 30 22:31
DaemonFC /dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,noatime,inode64,noikeep,logbufs=8,logbsize=256k)Aug 30 22:31
ender_2600ill have to check it outAug 30 22:31
schestowitzDaemonFC: is that your external?Aug 30 22:31
DaemonFCnoAug 30 22:32
schestowitzender_2600: I retweeted someAug 30 22:32
ender_2600any answers as to why they wanted to charge amnesty int a boat load of cash to censor names?Aug 30 22:32
schestowitzNot too much to be accused by ZionistsAug 30 22:32
schestowitzThere's Aussie ones todayAug 30 22:32
schestowitzThat's the latestAug 30 22:32
schestowitzLots of news about itAug 30 22:32
DaemonFChttp://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/filesystems/xfs.txtAug 30 22:32
ender_2600I saw the Canadian onesAug 30 22:32
schestowitzAnd SwedenAug 30 22:32
DaemonFCxfs has a lot of mount optionsAug 30 22:32
DaemonFC:PAug 30 22:32
schestowitzThe press can't keep up, too much all at onceAug 30 22:33
ender_2600however I don't think they have all the cables they claim or people claimAug 30 22:33
DaemonFCnobarrier is only a good idea on a laptop or with some kind of battery backup Aug 30 22:33
ender_2600theres no way they have 100% and theres no way they can prove they doAug 30 22:33
DaemonFChuge performance increase but huge risk of data loss in unclean shutdownAug 30 22:33
ender_2600daemonfc - xfs is a piece of sgi shitAug 30 22:33
DaemonFCmost of the work done on it lately is either Red Hat or former SGI employeesAug 30 22:34
DaemonFCRHEL officially supports XFS now as a scalable file systemAug 30 22:34
ender_2600yeah but XFS is crapAug 30 22:35
DaemonFCin what way?Aug 30 22:35
ender_2600in that its inferiorAug 30 22:35
DaemonFCthe limitations far exceed most other file systemsAug 30 22:35
DaemonFCperformance is pretty goodAug 30 22:35
ender_2600except btrfs and zfsAug 30 22:35
DaemonFCzfs is a GPL violation on LinuxAug 30 22:35
DaemonFCor a fuse module, hahAug 30 22:35
ender_2600thats niceAug 30 22:35
DaemonFCand BtrFS is slow and full of bugsAug 30 22:36
ender_2600can't run a fileserver?Aug 30 22:36
DaemonFCand not correctly supported by mainline GRUBAug 30 22:36
ender_2600mehAug 30 22:36
DaemonFCI'm not saying it will never improve, but I was kind of wondering what brand of crack Fedora was smoking before they wisely backed it out of F16Aug 30 22:37
DaemonFCit's just not a suitable Ext4 replacement yetAug 30 22:37
ender_2600no crackAug 30 22:37
DaemonFCif it's good enough to include in F17, I'll be surprised, even if they do it then it will probably be one of those lulzy beta things like KDE 4.0 or GNOME 3Aug 30 22:38
ender_2600not at allAug 30 22:38
ender_2600it was almost ready for F15Aug 30 22:38
ender_2600one of the other internals wasn't read for itAug 30 22:38
DaemonFCI've tried it out recentlyAug 30 22:39
DaemonFCit was dragging ass in the 2.6.39 kernelAug 30 22:39
DaemonFCI doubt it has gotten much better since thenAug 30 22:39
DaemonFCI swear even Ext3 was never that slowAug 30 22:39
DaemonFCperformance needs to come up a lotAug 30 22:39
DaemonFCyou can't say next generation file system when it's something that makes hard drive access even slower than it has to beAug 30 22:40
ender_2600on your system perhapsAug 30 22:40
ender_2600get a quad core alreadyAug 30 22:40
DaemonFCXFS on the other hand has gotten faster in just about every kernel release recentlyAug 30 22:40
DaemonFCbut 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 both gave it a nice boostAug 30 22:41
DaemonFCI have a quad coreAug 30 22:41
ender_2600and amd oneAug 30 22:41
DaemonFCyeahAug 30 22:41
ender_2600thats not a real quad coreAug 30 22:41
ender_2600its a defective cpu that runs too hot pretending to beAug 30 22:41
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.0.0-9-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.00 (4.7.0), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 21/923GB, RAM: 2134/8001MB, 158 proc's, 2.17h upAug 30 22:41
ender_2600yeah exactlyAug 30 22:41
ender_2600phenom2x4Aug 30 22:42
ender_2600defectiveAug 30 22:42
DaemonFChow?Aug 30 22:42
ender_2600runs too hot and can't compete with the cheaper i7'sAug 30 22:42
DaemonFCit runs at about 35-45 celsius Aug 30 22:42
DaemonFCdepending on loadAug 30 22:42
ender_2600mine runs around that high overclockedAug 30 22:43
DaemonFCmine varies between 800 Mhz to 3 GhzAug 30 22:43
ender_2600yeah so does mineAug 30 22:44
ender_2600socket 775Aug 30 22:44
ender_2600old technologyAug 30 22:44
DaemonFCand it has per-core frequency scalingAug 30 22:44
DaemonFCunless you run it on WindowsAug 30 22:44
DaemonFCthen it has to set them all to the same clock speedAug 30 22:44
ender_2600Intel doesn't?Aug 30 22:44
DaemonFCI don't think you can do it on Windows with any CPUAug 30 22:44
ender_2600not talking windowsAug 30 22:45
DaemonFCI'm not sure about Intel on Linux, the newest CPU I have from them is a Core 2 DuoAug 30 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Toshiba launches AT100 Android tablet in Europe http://ur1.ca/4zp5v "1200x800 10.1-inch touch screen display"Aug 30 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Open Web Platform Monthly Summary - 2011-07-29 - 2011-08-29 http://ow.ly/1etsdFAug 30 22:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: you got me glued to that songAug 30 22:46
DaemonFCender_2600: I had to revert a BIOS upgrade because AMD decided to make global scaling mandatory because it was crashing Windows VistaAug 30 22:46
DaemonFCI flashed in an older BIOS that brought back per-core scalingAug 30 22:46
DaemonFC:PAug 30 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Once Again, Big Companies Often Fail When Jumping Into A Space With A Smaller Competitor - http://bit.ly/nRiHkO "cargo cult copyists" - ha!Aug 30 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] £15 Raspberry Pi survives Quake http://ur1.ca/4zp7t #linux machine cheaper than a meal? And runs good games...Aug 30 22:47
DaemonFCI've never had the kernel panic on Linux on this system, except when I was trying out some untested radeon code :)Aug 30 22:47
DaemonFCcertainly never due to the processor Aug 30 22:48
ender_2600yeah radeon code is pretty badAug 30 22:49
ender_2600AMD still tho :PAug 30 22:49
DaemonFCuhhhmAug 30 22:49
DaemonFCofficially released kernels haven't given me those problems lately Aug 30 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android And Apple Now Command Nearly 70 Percent Of U.S. Smartphone Market Share - http://tcrn.ch/pZjIOD figures say it allAug 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hackers claim to have beaten Xbox 360 security - The H "cannot be resolved by a software update" http://ping.fm/ur3bIAug 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Barnes & Noble's Nook revenue up 140 percent http://ur1.ca/4zp8h B&N generated $1.4 billion in sales" #linuxAug 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 2011-08-30 (by Eye-Fi) https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233/5646627223306926674Aug 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @speeddefrost The grass outside my window has been dying ever since they sprayed that "fertilizer". There's something seriously wrong ...Aug 30 22:50
ender_2600later sk8rsAug 30 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NEC bringing world’s thinnest smartphone to the U.S. http://ur1.ca/4zp8l runs #linux at the coreAug 30 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i stumbled upon this profound photo: http://ur1.ca/4zp8kAug 30 22:53
schestowitza very canadian farewell greetingAug 30 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] In praise of … Delta bluesmen http://goo.gl/nrHrHAug 30 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP Could Revive The TouchPad, Says Former #webOS VP http://ur1.ca/4zp98 they still manufacture more of theseAug 30 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two Reasons Why an Amazon Tablet Could Compete with the iPad http://ur1.ca/4zp9j #linux vs proprietaryAug 30 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 2011-08-30 (by Eye-Fi) https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233/5646628753520374642Aug 30 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Daily Tech: U.S. Pressured EU to Approve the Oracle's Acquisition of Sun http://goo.gl/uvaXGAug 30 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat goes for OpenStack's community jugular http://ur1.ca/4zpa8 interesting analysis from @TheTechScribe #RedHat #OpenStackAug 30 23:05
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schestowitzRaspberry Pi $25 PC runs Quake III  http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pi-25-pc-runs-quake-iii-20110829/Aug 30 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Latest browser updates detect fraudulent !Google certs http://goo.gl/nRwH4 but does that include !firefox 3.6x in some !Linux distros?Aug 30 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @eximious Excited to have @mairin keynoting at #sfd in #boston, http://ur1.ca/4zp3uAug 30 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux in Iran's press today http://ur1.ca/4zparAug 30 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 2011-08-30 (by Eye-Fi) https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233/5646643430354753698Aug 30 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle v. Google - Not a Good Day for Google on the Lindholm Emails http://ur1.ca/4zpb7 #google #scoracle #java #swpatsAug 30 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @NickBallard: HP Resurrects TouchPad Tablet to Pacify Rabid Customers | Gadget Lab | Wired.com http://t.co/sRtvV1dAug 30 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10th Circuit Affirms in All Respects - Novell, Not SCO, Owns the Copyrights, etc., by pj http://ur1.ca/4zpbc what will #attachmate do?Aug 30 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If #ACTA Is Approved In US, May Open The Door For President To Regularly Ignore Congress On International Agreements - http://bit.ly/p286ImAug 30 23:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Slashdot did a lot of Microsoft and Apple promotion today. Now reputation laundering for Steve Jobs....Aug 30 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz 10th Circuit Affirms in All Respects - Novell, Not SCO, Owns the Copyrights, etc., by pj http://ur1.ca/4zpbc what will # ...Aug 30 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Former Mossad chief: WikiLeaks docs, embarrassing, not harmful to intel informants no big deal http://t.co/PkZrPG0Aug 30 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 2011-08-30 (by Eye-Fi) https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5646627219701569233/5646653190365733330Aug 30 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Frmr WSJ ed. and US Treasury Assistant Secretary: Assange will be suicided in prison http://t.co/Di07kk via @Asher_WolfAug 30 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Malaysia judgement looms admist WikiLeaks furore | Australian http://t.co/IdqCs9QAug 30 23:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Microfear – The “mighty” Microsoft and its fear of the future? - Reprint Courtesy of OpenBytes http://bit.ly/qok9xx #microsoft #desktopAug 30 23:37
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schestowitzwb, jbeattyAug 30 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In Spain, police violence against press sparks concern http://ur1.ca/4zpdw #spain #warOnJournalismAug 30 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.S. Cities Criminalize Homelessness, Violate Human Rights Agreements http://ur1.ca/4zpe1 it's now a crime to be poor http://ur1.ca/4xnz4Aug 30 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Frmr WSJ ed. and US Treasury Assistant Secretary: "Assange will be 'suicided' in prison" http://t.co/Di07kk via @Asher_WolfAug 30 23:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Matt #Taibbi on the Explosive Investigation Revealing the SEC's Cover-Up of Wall Street's Crimes http://ur1.ca/4zpej #citigroup #sec #boaAug 30 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thugs break hands of Syria's top cartoonist for Assad lampoon http://ur1.ca/4zpem freedom of speech still taken for granted in the West.Aug 30 23:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Federal Reserve Audit Reveals Trillions in Secret Bailouts http://ur1.ca/4zouj the police busy chasing shoplifters. Bankers rejoice.Aug 30 23:50
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82109886Aug 30 23:50
schestowitzAbout Assange 'suicidedAug 30 23:51
jbeattyhttps://identi.ca/notice/82109886Aug 30 23:51
jbeattylol trying to copy/paste from PuTTYAug 30 23:51
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/82109886Aug 30 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-11 22:47:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz 404 on that link. #notSurprisedAug 30 23:51
schestowitzjbeatty: try againAug 30 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It seems as though the only people the West borrows money from are future generations and their hard labour.Aug 30 23:52
jbeattyschestowitz: what was that link originally pointing to? the 404 is ominousAug 30 23:52
schestowitzto this:Aug 30 23:53
schestowitz[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Frmr WSJ ed. and US Treasury Assistant Secretary: "Assange will be 'suicided' in prison" http://t.co/Di07kk via @Asher_WolfAug 30 23:53
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundAug 30 23:53
jbeattyI meant the 404 from that link, the t.co URLAug 30 23:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks.org is presently under attack. You can still search US cables here http://t.co/FWDeoKMAug 30 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks.org is presently under attack. You can still search US cables here http://t.co/FWDeoKMAug 30 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] wikileaks wrote: "Frmr WSJ ed. and US Treasury Assistant Secretary: "Assange will be 'suicided' in prison"". And the URL is now broken.Aug 30 23:55
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