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schestowitzwsted my time tooSep 09 00:00
schestowitztransparent pngsSep 09 00:00
schestowitzback in around 2004Sep 09 00:00
schestowitzwell before ie declined considerableSep 09 00:00
schestowitz*lySep 09 00:00
schestowitzso it was not possible to just ignore itSep 09 00:00
abushcrafter13 ram free *shock*Sep 09 00:00
schestowitzI'd have to go to the labs in the middle of the night to test pages I created in Linux with mozSep 09 00:00
schestowitzto see how ie6 messed them up... using some grubby cluster pcsSep 09 00:01
abushcrafterI havn't done any thing like thatSep 09 00:01
schestowitzthen I found browsershotsSep 09 00:01
schestowitzAround 2005Sep 09 00:01
abushcrafterjust html and css. nothing fancySep 09 00:01
schestowitzBut IE6 cost me a lot of time, stillSep 09 00:02
schestowitzie would also have noisy javascript errorsSep 09 00:02
schestowitzit was a pile of junkSep 09 00:02
_Goblinlove this phrase.........Sep 09 00:02
_Goblin"treason to peace"Sep 09 00:02
schestowitzLOLSep 09 00:03
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/what-if-microsoft-opened-the-interface-environment-for-windows-8?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ostatic+%28OStatic%29Sep 09 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What if Microsoft Opened the Interface Environment for Windows 8? .::. Size~: 38.08 KBSep 09 00:03
_Goblinanother little gem I've pulled out of German law.Sep 09 00:03
schestowitzOpenSep 09 00:03
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schestowitzOstatis againSep 09 00:03
abushcrafterI wonder how much ie cost the economy? ought to be baned?Sep 09 00:03
_GoblinRoy, you are guilty of "Treason to Proprietary" (if you continue to use Linux)Sep 09 00:03
schestowitz_Goblin: current german law?Sep 09 00:03
_GoblinyepSep 09 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Going offline - #amwritingSep 09 00:03
schestowitz"Noise pollution"Sep 09 00:04
_GoblinFriedensverratSep 09 00:04
_Goblinthats what its called.Sep 09 00:04
_Goblintreason to peace....Sep 09 00:04
schestowitzI think your music would qualify as that :-) :-)Sep 09 00:04
_GoblinlolSep 09 00:04
_Goblinprobably.....ironic that the heaviest metal comes from GermanySep 09 00:04
_GoblinHaggardSep 09 00:04
schestowitztreason to peace,.. militant about peaceSep 09 00:04
_GoblinEr....Sep 09 00:04
schestowitz"BE PEACEFULL OR IS FUCD_DM  KIKLL YOU!!Sep 09 00:05
_Goblinthats the one!Sep 09 00:05
schestowitz"we are the religion of peace"Sep 09 00:05
schestowitzApple: think different.Sep 09 00:05
schestowitzMonsanto: feeding the hungrySep 09 00:06
schestowitzand the hungry feed monsanto with moneyySep 09 00:06
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abushcrafterfin looking at map.oh so your near meSep 09 00:07
_GoblinyepSep 09 00:08
_Goblinherts beds and bucks 3 counties radio....ever listen to it?Sep 09 00:08
abushcrafter!google the corporation movie documentorySep 09 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Corporation Film: Welcome | http://www.thecorporation.com/Sep 09 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Corporation Film: Watch Video | http://www.thecorporation.com/index.cfm%3Fpage_id%3D46Sep 09 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Corporation Film: About the Film | http://www.thecorporation.com/index.cfm%3Fpage_id%3D2Sep 09 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Corporation (disambiguation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(disambiguation)Sep 09 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Term of the day: "Offline App" http://ur1.ca/51bju "Offline App" is like "Walking people" or "Flying birds" and "Swmming fish"Sep 09 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Google's Offline App Strategy will Benefit Chrome OS .::. Size~: 39.55 KBSep 09 00:08
abushcrafternope repeat music, adsSep 09 00:09
_Goblinah....Sep 09 00:09
abushcrafterbut thinking of looking into internet radioSep 09 00:09
abushcrafterlateySep 09 00:10
_Goblinhttp://www.radioplayer.co.uk/Sep 09 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Radioplayer | UK radio in one place. .::. Size~: 14.17 KBSep 09 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "And then he was like, man, I need to use an app on a device *without* giving away my data, so I was like, but that's so lame."Sep 09 00:10
_Goblinschestowitz: who's that quote from Paris Hilton?Sep 09 00:10
_Goblinvery handy that site abushcrafter Sep 09 00:11
schestowitz_Goblin: hypotheticalSep 09 00:11
schestowitzfrom a silly person thinking s/he advancedSep 09 00:11
abushcrafteryuck need flashSep 09 00:11
schestowitzadobe trashSep 09 00:11
abushcrafteryepSep 09 00:12
schestowitztrash-binSep 09 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Wonder how long" [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/YzsrR.jpgSep 09 00:12
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 09 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] finally implemented some basic ETag/Last-Modified handling in HME (and so on my brag and Brama website). better late than never.Sep 09 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux 1.2.0 is out http://www.bodhilinux.com/Sep 09 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bodhilinux.com .::. Size~: 8 KBSep 09 00:15
_Goblinschestowitz: going back to earlier about Metal and treason to peace..... here's part of my Diaspora profile "..Death metal music is amongst my other interests and you can often find a selection on the TechBytes audiocast, much to the disdain of my co-host."Sep 09 00:17
schestowitzlolSep 09 00:18
schestowitzlast one\s was goodSep 09 00:18
schestowitzbut not heavy metalSep 09 00:18
schestowitzIn editing, heavy metal is when there's a bit rectangular chunkSep 09 00:19
schestowitzRather than waveformSep 09 00:19
schestowitz[maxing the volume all the time]Sep 09 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] btw that was #notatrollSep 09 00:22
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/blogs/2413Sep 09 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Useful Is Ubuntu Menu? | Muktware .::. Size~: 29.65 KBSep 09 00:23
abushcrafteryay you podcast is in ogg :)Sep 09 00:24
abushcrafterhave you tryed using Speex for the podcastSep 09 00:26
abushcrafter?Sep 09 00:26
schestowitzWe haven'tSep 09 00:27
schestowitzshould we?Sep 09 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola Announces Android Powered DROID BIONIC http://ur1.ca/51bmz "1 GB of RAM and a stunning 4.3-inch qHD display"Sep 09 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola Announces Android Powered DROID BIONIC | Muktware .::. Size~: 25.27 KBSep 09 00:28
abushcrafterfantastic quality, Useful denosie feature, very small file sizesSep 09 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Do Not Track standards for the Web: The work is starting. http://ow.ly/1eBIPOSep 09 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Work on “Do Not Track” Standards for the Web http://ow.ly/1eBIQgSep 09 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Do Not Track standards for the Web: The work is starting.  - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 12.17 KBSep 09 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C News Archive: 2011        W3C .::. Size~: 182.54 KBSep 09 00:33
schestowitzhttp://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/5/17/4818772.htmlSep 09 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gates Keepers :: The Gates Foundation chairs chair a meeting of the super rich so that they can eat and laugh .::. Size~: 20.66 KBSep 09 00:41
schestowitz"The Gates Keepers think Tashia Morgridge made the most amusing comment: "being a philanthropist, in many ways it's rather a lonely job." Poor thing."Sep 09 00:41
schestowitzLOLSep 09 00:41
abushcrafterjust compressed a flac of music into speex vbr Q10. it sounds like a mp3 vbr max encode i did. the vorbis Q -2 sounded better, cleaner, fuller and was smaller than the mp3. any way, Speex will be better for you podcast. based on the first 14 mins of E59Sep 09 00:44
abushcrafterand I would try the denoise option in speexencSep 09 00:45
abushcraftertry/useSep 09 00:45
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schestowitzthanksSep 09 00:55
schestowitzis it widely supported thoughSep 09 00:55
schestowitzsip clients support itSep 09 00:56
schestowitznot sure about othersSep 09 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @x11r5: @johnnynull Bought the new certificate, hopefully we can trust?Sep 09 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ICC requests INTERPOL Red Notice for Gaddafi. Not yet issued. But Assange--no court, no charge, hit with Red Notice http://t.co/bGIkkjDSep 09 00:57
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abushcrafterI don't think it is supported as much as ogg but its so small and you would help push it just by making it available in Speex. It would save you bandwidth. I will use it.Sep 09 01:04
abushcrafterof course!Sep 09 01:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Finally arrived, checked in & online at Santiago de Compostela. Now, get beamer export to work in #emacs.Sep 09 01:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/IAmAru/statuses/111925595725766656Sep 09 01:11
TechrightsBot-tr@IAmAru: Just a reminder: Who is Florian Mueller? http://t.co/miUerPp #journalolsSep 09 01:11
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schestowitzabushcrafter: should I encode a version of it too?Sep 09 01:11
schestowitzIt takes like 1.5 hioursSep 09 01:11
schestowitznot sure how many would use itSep 09 01:12
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/merenbey/status/111898807435923456Sep 09 01:12
TechrightsBot-tr@merenbey: Yeni gördüm bu yazıyı: "Microsoft Attacks GNU/Linux (Pardus) in Turkey, Dumps on Students", http://t.co/3e353Uu #pardusSep 09 01:12
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abushcrafterplease do. I would like that.Sep 09 01:12
abushcrafterI guess a page or paragraph explaining speex and have a look at the statsSep 09 01:14
abushcrafterjust a quick restart of irc appSep 09 01:21
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abushcrafteri'm backSep 09 01:23
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abushcrafterif I disconectSep 09 01:50
abushcraftermy email is: http://www.google.com/recaptcha/mailhide/d?k=01X0uFh0_II-DVISwU7Xd4bQ==&c=4L574Gi17lrOMNqUMTubhcPKY3CoeNHCDFTh9PJb1pg=Sep 09 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LPC: Development model diversity http://lwn.net/Articles/458094/rssSep 09 01:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Top tech entrepreneurs oppose PROTECT IP Act, eff.org/r.B78, join them and contact Congress now at eff.org/r.17PSep 09 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Top tech entrepreneurs oppose PROTECT IP Act, eff.org/r.B78, join them and contact Congress now at eff.org/r.17PSep 09 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] All prior Cablegate redactions have now been reversed can be searched on http://t.co/4SOEbx3Sep 09 02:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This so those mentioned can see what is said about them easily and so media who abused our redaction contract can be held to account.Sep 09 02:32
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XFaCEhiSep 09 02:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Here is an example of Cable cooking from the Guardian. There are hundreds more. http://t.co/ogu63zKSep 09 02:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] losing @bkuhn's dents again...Sep 09 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk oh nvm, fontana was just replying to an old dentSep 09 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Economist comment detailing Cablegate2 timeline http://t.co/BVWMyVJSep 09 02:47
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XFaCEwell, the days is done it seems, sebsebsebSep 09 02:51
XFaCE*daySep 09 02:51
XFaCEThat's it.  No more lazy typing.Sep 09 02:51
XFaCEProper grammer frome noww onn!Sep 09 02:52
XFaCEuh sebsebseb, still there?Sep 09 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for September 9, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/457312/rssSep 09 02:53
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XFaCEmsb?Sep 09 02:54
XFaCEender_2600?Sep 09 02:54
msbXFaCE: Hi!Sep 09 02:54
XFaCEYeah!  Someone still here.Sep 09 02:54
msbXFaCE: What, you wanna see us fight?Sep 09 02:55
msb8^)Sep 09 02:55
XFaCENo, I've had quite enough of the Snit vs. you and bystanders in the middle wars.Sep 09 02:55
XFaCEThat was just kinda tiring to the eyesSep 09 02:56
XFaCEWhat happened to the good ole days of... whatever happened in this channel that wasn't fighting?Sep 09 02:56
msbXFaCE: Check out this music video --  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAON-MwUPYSep 09 02:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Siouxsie And The Banshees - The Passenger       - YouTube .::. Size~: 111.94 KBSep 09 02:56
XFaCEWhy can't we have peace and love?Sep 09 02:57
msbI agree, but Snit is (by all sane reasoning) a Microsoft propaganda agent.  Why he's allowed in here I can't understand.Sep 09 02:57
XFaCEmsb: uhh, very eighties?Sep 09 02:57
msbVery catchy, to me.Sep 09 02:58
XFaCETo be fair, Snit does make some good points. *SomeSep 09 02:58
XFaCEmsb: Too much eyeliner :SSep 09 02:58
XFaCEMaybe I should attempt a dialogue with himSep 09 02:58
DaemonFCJust a reminder for my fellow Americans, the 17th is Citizenship Day, so you all get to celebrate the many benefits of US citizenship, such as the Supreme Court decision that the US government can murder you and not even have to cover it up if you leave US soil.Sep 09 02:59
msbThe whole song is kinda ... dissociated.Sep 09 02:59
DaemonFCAmong many other perks, like high taxation and TSA rapeyscan.Sep 09 02:59
XFaCEDaemonFC: America, F**k yeah!Sep 09 02:59
DaemonFCYou don't get the day off, unless you're wone of the 20% unemployedSep 09 02:59
DaemonFC*oneSep 09 02:59
msbDaemonFC: I don't think you have to leave the country for them to do that.Sep 09 02:59
XFaCEmsb: ok.  Is the song part of any point or context you are trying to make?Sep 09 02:59
msbXFaCE: I don't think one can have an honest discussion with Snit.Sep 09 03:00
msbXFaCE: Nope.Sep 09 03:00
XFaCEmsb: Are you and ender still buds?Sep 09 03:00
msbI don't think we ever were.Sep 09 03:00
XFaCEWeird, could have sworn you were "allies" or whateverSep 09 03:01
msbHe just attacked me one day, and has never stopped.Sep 09 03:01
DaemonFCDon't complain about anything your government officials do, such as passing gay marriage bans and then being caught with a teenage gay prostitute later on, or the terrorists win!Sep 09 03:01
XFaCEmsb: The start of a beautiful and flourishing friendship.Sep 09 03:01
msbI thought we were for the first day or two, but then he attacked.Sep 09 03:01
XFaCEI think I may have attacked you by accident onceSep 09 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just got a "Dear Friend of Diaspora*" emailSep 09 03:02
XFaCEfrankly, Internet discussions suck for making acquaintances Sep 09 03:02
msbXFaCE: No problem!Sep 09 03:02
msbI've made a few over the years, not many.Sep 09 03:02
XFaCEwe all need to get together in a real life "IRC channel"Sep 09 03:02
DaemonFCTo celebrate Citizenship Day, I suggest you all go see America in all its beauty, but don't get within 100 miles of an international border, or you don't have any constitutional rights. :)Sep 09 03:03
XFaCEoh, Diablo-D3's here tooSep 09 03:03
XFaCEDaemonFC I remember you were going to be in a jury.  How'd that turn out.Sep 09 03:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Future historians of social web will conclude that #Diaspora's biggest mistake was decision to put stylistic asterisk at end of project nameSep 09 03:03
msbXFaCE: this is as good a channel as any to get together in.  It does attract some good people.Sep 09 03:03
DaemonFChaven't heard from themSep 09 03:03
DaemonFCperhaps they analyzed my IRC output and realized I wouldn't be swallowing their bullshitSep 09 03:04
XFaCEBTW, for clarification, you (DaemonFC msb Diablo-D3 et al.) do know who I am, right?Sep 09 03:05
DaemonFCI told a psychiatrist once that everything he was saying was bullshit. He turned around and in this thick Indian accent "Bullsheet? Theese eees not bullsheeet!"Sep 09 03:05
XFaCEWell Diablo doesSep 09 03:05
msbXFaCE: No, are you someone famous?Sep 09 03:06
XFaCEI meant in the context of TechrightsSep 09 03:06
XFaCEand Identi.caSep 09 03:06
msbno...Sep 09 03:06
msbsorrySep 09 03:06
XFaCEAlluding to the fact I changed my nick recentlySep 09 03:06
XFaCE...Sep 09 03:06
XFaCEDaemonFC, wish to contribute a guess?Sep 09 03:07
msbRumpelstiltskin!!!!Sep 09 03:07
XFaCENooooooooo! I'm vanishing! I'm.... completely fine.Sep 09 03:08
XFaCENo, try againSep 09 03:08
XFaCEalright, alrightSep 09 03:09
*XFaCE is now known as GoForbes28Sep 09 03:09
GoForbes28tadaSep 09 03:09
*GoForbes28 is now known as XFaCESep 09 03:09
msbwait for it....Sep 09 03:09
XFaCEthere ya goSep 09 03:09
DaemonFCI think schestowitz frowns on thatSep 09 03:10
XFaCEfrowns on what?Sep 09 03:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @fontana: Future historians of social web will conclude that #Diaspora's biggest mistake was decision to put stylistic asterisk at ...Sep 09 03:10
DaemonFCchanging namesSep 09 03:11
XFaCEThe act of changing the name?  The fact the names are very dissimilar?  The fact it's a mediocre nick?Sep 09 03:11
XFaCEoppsSep 09 03:11
XFaCEoopsSep 09 03:11
XFaCEa little slow thereSep 09 03:11
XFaCEWell, I thought it was time for a changeSep 09 03:11
msbXFaCE: I think it's a nice nick.Sep 09 03:11
XFaCEThanksSep 09 03:11
XFaCEI got it from a PCLOS Phoenix review, where the reviewer pronounced Xfce as "X face"Sep 09 03:12
Diablo-D3XFaCE: I have DaemonFC on ignore btwSep 09 03:12
msbMine is just my initials -- for Mark Steven Bilk -- cosmicpenguin.comSep 09 03:12
XFaCEDiablo-D3: err, why?Sep 09 03:12
msbIsn't an xface a little bitmap used in e-mails or something?Sep 09 03:13
XFaCEapparentlySep 09 03:13
XFaCERoy mentioned that this morningSep 09 03:13
msbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-FaceSep 09 03:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: X-Face - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 28.41 KBSep 09 03:13
XFaCEWell that's appropriateSep 09 03:14
XFaCEsomething small and insignicant and forgottenSep 09 03:14
XFaCEThough I rather the reference to Xfce be up-played thank you very much. :)Sep 09 03:15
msbHey, cheer up, here's a chocolate chip cookie.Sep 09 03:15
XFaCEThere is no cake!Sep 09 03:15
XFaCENever mind, that's what we in the business call a "brain fart".Sep 09 03:16
msbIt's like those little images in website headers, that show in browsers.  I have a teensy Tux.Sep 09 03:16
msbI want my cake!!!Sep 09 03:16
XFaCEYou can't handle the pie.Sep 09 03:17
msbFrom a four-part horror/comedy movie.  I like the one at the end with Adrienne Barbeau.Sep 09 03:17
msbPie in the sky when you die.Sep 09 03:18
msbXFaCE: So are you going to reveal your secret identity, your True Name?Sep 09 03:19
XFaCEDaemonFC: You've shied away from the conversation.  Turn that frown around!Sep 09 03:19
XFaCEmsb: Uh, I did the reveal of the original nickname err about 10 minutes agoSep 09 03:20
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msbXFaCE: I don't see where.Sep 09 03:21
XFaCEThen your IRC client blowsSep 09 03:21
XFaCE10:08, aboveSep 09 03:21
XFaCESubstitute 10 for you timezone correctionSep 09 03:22
msbtada?  alright?Sep 09 03:23
msbbrbSep 09 03:23
XFaCEyes, that's the messageSep 09 03:23
XFaCEkkSep 09 03:23
XFaCEWhy did you cut out there DaemonFC?Sep 09 03:24
DaemonFCtired :PSep 09 03:25
XFaCEahSep 09 03:25
XFaCEwell, probably be best to sign off now anywaySep 09 03:26
XFaCEI doubt there's going to be a flurry of activity in the next few hoursSep 09 03:26
XFaCETime for shuteyeSep 09 03:26
XFaCESee ya later all.Sep 09 03:27
msbGood nightSep 09 03:27
DaemonFCunless I fire up the percolator Sep 09 03:27
DaemonFCmake some more peppermint mocha B-)Sep 09 03:27
XFaCEFinal word: DaemonFC, you don't drink coffee at night!  You'll be sorry!Sep 09 03:27
msbI don't see the point of keeping my real name hidden.  The govt certainly knows who/where I am.Sep 09 03:28
XFaCEit's not hidden, it's an IRC avatarSep 09 03:28
DaemonFCBig Brother is your friendSep 09 03:28
DaemonFCjust ask the Ministry of TruthSep 09 03:28
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 03:28
XFaCElolSep 09 03:28
XFaCEAnd... good night. :)Sep 09 03:29
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msbDaemonFC: Here's an interesting little screed:  http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_21.htmSep 09 03:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Those were the days, eh?Sep 09 03:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] got a confirmation for my new position at a software supplier for Open Source based embedded devices and #MeeGo. Waiting for the work offerSep 09 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] gonna reserve some time during mid-autumn to finish the QA tool I'm working on.Sep 09 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] would be awesome if I can attend #Qt Developer Days 2011 in MunichSep 09 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A timelapse in a timelapse http://vimeo.com/27953845 #bwooongSep 09 04:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tchaikovsky Timelapse on Vimeo .::. Size~: 77.27 KBSep 09 04:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just found how to have profiles & move the data folder on Chrome / Chromium browser so it can live encrypted \o/Sep 09 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana you realize you've now shifted from owning the thing to owning the right over the thing?Sep 09 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] to fedora: no, I don't want to create yet another bugzilla acct. to tell you something is fundamentally wrong with your distroSep 09 05:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Friday's !InconstantMoon serialization is posted: http://ur1.ca/51fik !SelfPubSep 09 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gomerx @kevingranade So the government lied to us about the reasons for taking away our freedom post-9/11? Why am I not surprised?Sep 09 05:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @shaunmallette: Firesheep addon updated to exploit Google info leak http://t.co/u3Ao8H6Sep 09 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] the only cloud service I support is rainSep 09 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag @sanderschSep 09 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tekk the only cloud service I support is rainSep 09 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've been told that that's not a realistic attack today, unless NSA MI5 or CSIS has more going on than we know @qubitarkhiveSep 09 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Woke up this mornin'... Playing with playdough, watching dora en francaiseSep 09 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sorry, it was Thursday. @psquid It's only been Friday here for about a couple of hours.Sep 09 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] packing it in... maybe the contractor will deign to appear tomorrow :(Sep 09 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !Identiverse !tzafSep 09 06:30
DaemonFCoh nice, Opera has stopped calling Linux and FreeBSD "UNIX"Sep 09 06:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh?Sep 09 06:34
DaemonFCyeah, now it's Windows, Mac, and Linux/FreeBSDSep 09 06:35
DaemonFCin their change logsSep 09 06:35
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ok good :)Sep 09 06:36
sebsebseband who runs Opear on actusal Unix anyway? does anyone?Sep 09 06:36
sebsebsebOperaSep 09 06:36
sebsebsebwell  sure FreeBSD is Unix really, but I mean other ones, that aern't BSDSep 09 06:37
DaemonFCthe last UNIX system they ran on was SolarisSep 09 06:37
DaemonFCbut they discontinued the Solaris version a while backSep 09 06:37
DaemonFCunless you consider OS X a UNIX, but I don't :)Sep 09 06:38
DaemonFCbesides, they already mention OS X by name anywaySep 09 06:38
DaemonFCUNIX as a trademark means less and less every daySep 09 06:38
sebsebsebyeah OS X isn't really a UnixSep 09 06:38
DaemonFCit is if you only consider passing the Open Group test suites Sep 09 06:39
DaemonFCbut they've built on so much of their own crap that isn't standardized in any way or open for others to use, that I don't think of them as having a UNIXSep 09 06:39
DaemonFCsebsebseb: There was a time Opera also supported BeOS and OS/2Sep 09 06:41
DaemonFCand several other operating systemsSep 09 06:42
MinceRunix is a mismanaged trademarkSep 09 06:43
MinceRosx fails hard at unix compatibilitySep 09 06:43
DaemonFCin other words, you're saying that Apple dumped money on them and that's why they passedSep 09 06:43
MinceRit's probably true but not what i saidSep 09 06:46
MinceRit could be that open group also fails at writing test suites, not just at managing trademarks they did not createSep 09 06:46
MinceRhttp://www.politics.hu/20110907/alleged-pre-election-deceit-by-orbans-among-revelations-in-newly-released-wikileaks-cables-on-hungary/Sep 09 06:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: I once got fired before for telling funders their actions were immoral. My track record shows my non-corruptionSep 09 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I'm curious; without strings attached, why should any non-profit ever reject any $ donation? I can't make sense of itSep 09 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] any good org-mode tutorials. someting I keep wanting to pick up but never get around to itSep 09 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I understand there may be “blood money” issues, but when the evil deed is done, accepting donation won't undo or endorse itSep 09 07:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana IMHO the only concern in accepting no-strings-attached $ donation is becoming dependent on it => hostage of the donorSep 09 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] heh ♻ @karsten: Wondering if there are any beamer themes out there that don't look like they're built by mathematicians.Sep 09 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] while Google adds, Diaspora multiplies ♻ @fontana: [...] Diaspora's asterisk at end of project nameSep 09 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana that's still too broad IMHO. owning has to do with specific rights (to dispose of), but also powers (to exclude others from using)Sep 09 07:20
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTg5MQSep 09 07:26
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DaemonFChehSep 09 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] off to Aarwangen to start a 100km+ journey on water ... packed up and ready to go, rather different than my conference kit though ;)Sep 09 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] !tzafSep 09 07:28
DaemonFCThis Ubuntu Technical Board member even admits that he has landed  features too early to make it in the next Ubuntu release and that often  what goes on is "removing the old, deprecated feature and breaking  things temporarily with the promise that everything will be better in  the next release, certainly the one after that, definitely by the LTS." Sep 09 07:29
DaemonFCniceSep 09 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk too many fake churches in .br for me to have an unbiased opinion, but I hope at least some religious charities are honestSep 09 07:32
DaemonFChe's right that Ubuntu seems to have suffered for their focus on getting things done fast and not wellSep 09 07:32
DaemonFCof course offering bonuses to your employees to get them to work fast means they will be cutting cornersSep 09 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk “here, take it, and if you do well, I may give you more” != “here, take it and do X”Sep 09 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk the only risk in the former is dependency; the latter may be ok or not depending on whether X is aligned with recipient or notSep 09 07:33
MinceRobviously, what ubuntu needs is a secondly release cycleSep 09 07:35
MinceRsure, most .iso-s won't even boot, but damn, is it up-to-date!Sep 09 07:35
DaemonFCthis really shows with UnitySep 09 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk in either case, I don't see that whatever else donor did, does or intends to do should mattersSep 09 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk what matters for a non-profit is advancing its stated mission; if $ donation can help, take it and use it well, methinksSep 09 07:35
DaemonFCthey're implementing it in pieces to inflate their paychecks and game the systemSep 09 07:35
DaemonFCI figured something like that must be going onSep 09 07:35
MinceRdoesn't really matter, as even the fundamental concept is flawedSep 09 07:35
DaemonFCthey managed to do a nice job breaking Compiz tooSep 09 07:36
DaemonFCnow it likes to crash all the time and won't work with KDE at allSep 09 07:37
MinceRi thought compiz always crashed all the timeSep 09 07:38
DaemonFCnot like thisSep 09 07:38
DaemonFCUnity still crashes randomly including today's buildSep 09 07:39
DaemonFCand it's the fault of their patched CompizSep 09 07:39
DaemonFCsomething screams that they don't know what they're doingSep 09 07:39
DaemonFCbut I can't put my finger on it because it seems to be everywhereSep 09 07:39
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 07:39
MinceR:>Sep 09 07:41
DaemonFCMinceR: But their Kubuntu and Xubuntu variants are still goodSep 09 07:41
DaemonFCat least they're only off being stupid and doing incompetent things in their official spinSep 09 07:42
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 07:42
DaemonFCmostlySep 09 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Boost Your #WiFi Signal Using Only a #Beer Can http://tinyurl.com/3ou9sa3Sep 09 07:42
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DaemonFCMinceR: I put Xubuntu on the laptop I gave to my brotherSep 09 07:42
DaemonFCI rearranged some stuff and set up xorg edgers and whatnotSep 09 07:43
DaemonFCbut no major surgerySep 09 07:43
DaemonFCand he seems to like it well enoughSep 09 07:43
MinceRsure, but xfce ships on saner distros tooSep 09 07:43
DaemonFCMinceR: I ran into problems with Fedora on that laptopSep 09 07:44
DaemonFCstrangely enoughSep 09 07:44
MinceRdebian should work tooSep 09 07:44
DaemonFCdue to the video chipset I'm sure, that thing has always done weird stuffSep 09 07:44
MinceR(plus if you only install xfce on debian, it won't even try to pull in mono)Sep 09 07:44
DaemonFCit has only been in recent versions of X11 and the ati driver that it seems to work reliably Sep 09 07:45
DaemonFCXubuntu doesn't have MonoSep 09 07:45
DaemonFCthey're trying to be lightweight rememberSep 09 07:45
MinceRyes, but it's still ubuntu :>Sep 09 07:45
DaemonFClightweight doesn't mean pulling in 100 megs of runtime for a media playerSep 09 07:45
MinceRalso, iirc the tradition is more like "pulling in 100 megs of runtime for a note taking applet"Sep 09 07:45
MinceR:>Sep 09 07:46
DaemonFCwell, most distributions with GNOME have MonoSep 09 07:46
DaemonFCthe only reason Fedora doesn't is because of Red Hat being a competitor to NovellSep 09 07:46
MinceRon the upside, the gnome project worked hard at making gnome not worth usingSep 09 07:46
DaemonFCMinceR: they're slugging it out with jono's forces over which desktop can reel in the most semi-retarded left handed Mac users who are drooling all over themselvesSep 09 07:47
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 07:47
MinceR:>Sep 09 07:48
DaemonFCMinceR: Did you see Fallen?Sep 09 07:49
DaemonFCI was watching that movie last night out of boredomSep 09 07:49
DaemonFCthe demon that could pass into anyone by touching themSep 09 07:50
DaemonFCthe cop was talking about the demon with some woman and she says Azazel, sadistic, likes to sing, left handedSep 09 07:50
DaemonFCI added "ubuntu user"Sep 09 07:51
MinceRthat's not nice to left-handed peopleSep 09 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Descoperă Ubuntu pentru computerul tău http://ubuntu.ro/descopera/ #ubuntu #romania #linuxSep 09 07:53
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/framaka/statuses/112040984287780864Sep 09 07:59
TechrightsBot-tr@framaka: Cablegate Wikileaks : Le lobbying de Microsoft à l'échelle mondiale est impressionnant http://t.co/bH6bFv2 On demande le boycott ?Sep 09 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Researchers crack Windows code for online activity monitoring http://tinyurl.com/3smhxqb #microsoft #windows #security #privacy #romaniaSep 09 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] a #fabalanche!Sep 09 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I don't understand; are you asking whether I'd donate to such orgs, or whether they should accept my donations?Sep 09 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] În vacanța de vară: studenți participanți la școli de informatică http://tinyurl.com/3fddfe2 #romania #informaticalacastel #linux #gnuSep 09 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: US Diplomats Offer to Help Microsoft Dodge European Regulators http://ur1.ca/51hau #eu #antitrust #lobbying #microsoftSep 09 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @muelnet: Wtf? The #fabalanche is back? not only that but it now comes with directions to use google+ instead.Sep 09 08:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Cablegate: US Diplomats Offer to Help Microsoft Dodge European Regulators http://ur1.ca/51hau #eu #antitrust #lobbying # ...Sep 09 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: US Diplomats Offer to Help Microsoft Dodge European Regulators http://ur1.ca/51hau #wlfind #cablegate #politics #antitrustSep 09 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Microsoft Receives Complaints for Censoring Search Results in Hong Kong Without Government Demands http://ur1.ca/51hij #wlfindSep 09 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: #Microsoft Receives Complaints for Censoring Search Results in Hong Kong Without Government Demands http://ur1.ca/51hij #hkSep 09 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Cablegate: Microsoft Receives Complaints for Censoring Search Results in Hong Kong Without Government Demands http://ur1 ...Sep 09 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners @nybill https://plus.google.com/u/1/105047371315992982745/posts/ZvQ1nJse2X3Sep 09 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: US Mission to #Brunei Changes Laws to Suit Microsoft, Confiscate Equipment http://ur1.ca/51hkk #wlfind #cablegateSep 09 08:52
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MinceRgeekingsSep 09 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: US Mission to Brunei Changes Laws to Suit #Microsoft, Confiscate Equipment http://ur1.ca/51hkk #bsa !wikileaksSep 09 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @frozenfire: interesting. I actually repel people.Sep 09 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How open is Oracle ? http://www.datamation.com/blog/how-open-is-oracle.html #oracle #gnu #linux #fossSep 09 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @zack: !diaspora is getting better, but until they add !identica integration > http://ur1.ca/51hka it's close to useless for me…Sep 09 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Uranium munching bacteria breathe it through electrical wires > http://nd.gd/wd ( via ars-technica )Sep 09 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: #Tunisia Chooses #GNU #Linux , So Microsoft Says That GNU/Linux Encourages ‘Piracy’ http://ur1.ca/51ho6 #wlfind !wlSep 09 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Tunisia Chooses GNU/Linux, So Microsoft Says That GNU/Linux Encourages ‘Piracy’ http://ur1.ca/51ho6 #africa #governmentSep 09 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Still A Long Way To Go For Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement - http://bit.ly/nbbeYH good summary of where things stand #actaSep 09 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Two-Factor Authentication by OpenOTP http://tinyurl.com/3f5hbae #openotp #authentication #gnu #linux #security #privacySep 09 09:15
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schestowitz"Sep 09 09:15
schestowitz¶5. (U) The use of an open source code Linux isSep 09 09:15
schestowitzanother area of focus for IBM India. The companySep 09 09:15
schestowitzformed an IBM Linux Competency Center and LinuxSep 09 09:15
schestowitzSolution Center in Bangalore to establish productSep 09 09:15
schestowitzstandards, further Linux R&D as well as to localizeSep 09 09:15
schestowitzproducts for an increasingly global customer baseSep 09 09:15
schestowitzwith local content requirements. State governmentsSep 09 09:15
schestowitzin India are big customers as they prefer open sourceSep 09 09:15
schestowitzcode that enables development of local languageSep 09 09:15
schestowitzfonts.Sep 09 09:15
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week : Leadenhall Market - http://bit.ly/qBRUDP gorgeous #london #pix #flickrSep 09 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Project Biped - http://bit.ly/oryWpH #openhardware project to produce dynamically-balanced bipedal #robot using 3d printerSep 09 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] France gets A+ from the US for its anti-consumer intellectual property related policies - http://bit.ly/orgmuF French citizens can get lostSep 09 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloke on the radio is saying that Islamic political violence is completely irrational. This is a mistake and ostrich like.Sep 09 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @joshix @michaeltwofish Nah, that's silly. Everyone knows roses and sparkly unicorn farts sprouted everywhere after the "successful r ...Sep 09 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sorry! Tzag identizens.Sep 09 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fujian fish drop dead in biblical proportions - http://bit.ly/qHtvHC eek #chinaSep 09 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Raspberry Pi playing 1080p video http://www.osnews.com/story/25147/Raspberry_Pi_Playing_1080p_Video !ARMSep 09 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Photographs Are Mechanical Representations Of Facts, And Thus Should Have Only Thin Copyright Protection - http://bit.ly/qVjYw1 interestingSep 09 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. measures to reduce teenage smoking deemed WTO violation - http://bit.ly/nrLBdF #WTO is a disgrace - time to abolish itSep 09 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British journos are still spouting "the world changed on 9/11 phrase" That is nonsense, stop doing it please.Sep 09 09:28
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DaemonFCMinceR, I shouldn't have watched FallenSep 09 09:31
DaemonFCnow I have that song stuck in my headSep 09 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Quad_core, #Nvidia #Tegra3 based devices to be available during the holidays? > http://nd.gd/we #ARMSep 09 09:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/carlopiana/status/112079543472365568Sep 09 09:38
TechrightsBot-tr@carlopiana: ♻ @schestowitz Cablegate: Tunisia Chooses GNU/Linux, So Microsoft Says That GNU/Linux Encourages ‘Piracy’ http://t.co/g6oXYea < a classic!Sep 09 09:38
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83205226Sep 09 09:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Sayed Hashem Masoud (hashemmasoud)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 08:03:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thanks for posting cables about M$. Hopefully you can gather all of those links in 1 location on your blog (as a reference).Sep 09 09:38
schestowitzYes, organised by country once it's mostly doneSep 09 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: US Diplomats and Microsoft Fight GNU/Linux in Venezuela, Insist Open Source is Not Commercial http://ur1.ca/51hso #wlfindSep 09 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Fights GNU/Linux in Venezuela, Insists Open Source is Not Commercial, Labels Advocates ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ http://ur1.ca/51hsoSep 09 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help Stop the #Blind Being Kicked in the Teeth Again - http://bit.ly/r4DxiL I am angry: you should be too #copyright #wipoSep 09 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Help Stop the #Blind Being Kicked in the Teeth Again - http://bit.ly/r4DxiL I am angry: you should be too #copyright #wipoSep 09 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Help Stop the Blind Being Kicked in the Teeth Again - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 78.51 KBSep 09 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: “42 Percent of Argentine Firms Use Linux on at Least Some of Their Computers” http://ur1.ca/51hwf #argentina #gnu #linuxSep 09 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: “42 Percent of Argentine Firms Use Linux on at Least Some of Their Computers” http://ur1.ca/51hwf #wlfind #microsoft #monopolySep 09 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Scott James Remnant: A new release process for !Ubuntu? http://goo.gl/XEPFESep 09 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: People behind !Debian: Enrico Zini, member of the New Maintainer Frontdesk http://goo.gl/xWuptSep 09 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A new release process for Ubuntu? | Scott James Remnant .::. Size~: 62.12 KBSep 09 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People behind Debian: Enrico Zini, member of the New Maintainer Frontdesk .::. Size~: 61.72 KBSep 09 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu 11.10 Development Update http://goo.gl/b8m22Sep 09 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Development Update | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 73.28 KBSep 09 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] MS Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/Linux, Wants to Treat Vietnamese Like ‘Pirates’ Instead http://ur1.ca/51i1qSep 09 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/Linux, Wants to Treat Vietnamese Like ‘Pirates’ Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.13 KBSep 09 10:25
MinceRyarr!Sep 09 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: #Microsoft Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/51i1q #Vietnam #wlfindSep 09 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Knowing Your Destination Is Half The Journey: !Ubuntu App Developer Week – Day 3 http://goo.gl/gTj8cSep 09 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Safaricom about to screw you in the arse, ask Bob CollymoreSep 09 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @njpatel My next feature in Gwibber is to add support for auto-collapsing messages that contain certain terms/hashtags.Sep 09 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "As long as you have a good browser, your device won't become a brick." > http://nd.gd/wg #web #Apps #opera #mini /cc @nj3ma @fredmanglisSep 09 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/Linux, Wants to Treat Vietnamese Like ‘Pirates’ Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.13 KBSep 09 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Knowing Your Destination Is Half The Journey: Ubuntu App Developer Week – Day 3 « Benvinguts, passeu passeu .::. Size~: 68.06 KBSep 09 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: U.S. measures to reduce teenage smoking deemed WTO violation - http://bit.ly/nrLBdF WTO is a disgrace - time to abolish itSep 09 10:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eyes on Trade: U.S. measures to reduce teenage smoking deemed WTO violation .::. Size~: 138.48 KBSep 09 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More magnets [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/sF71n.jpgSep 09 10:40
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/XkKSf.jpgSep 09 10:40
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 09 10:40
iophkIm the cables, what do (U) and (SBU) stand for?Sep 09 10:40
schestowitzI wish I knewSep 09 10:42
schestowitzTook me a while to get econoffSep 09 10:42
schestowitzHehSep 09 10:43
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=econoff&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=Sep 09 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: econoff - Google Search .::. Size~: 96.04 KBSep 09 10:43
schestowitz#1 resultSep 09 10:43
schestowitz!google econoffSep 09 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Econoff | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/09/07/econoff/Sep 09 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - [Ip-health] US in Philippines - "large economies of scale are the ... | http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/ip-health/2002-December/003915.htmlSep 09 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Auto Stop Oddity's with Econ OFF. - Insight Central: Honda Insight ... | http://www.insightcentral.net/forums/troubleshooting-problems/15703-auto-stop-odditys-econ-off.htmlSep 09 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - National broadband plans from around the world - Wikipedia, the ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_broadband_plans_from_around_the_worldSep 09 10:43
schestowitzYou should see the traffic ont he serve todaySep 09 10:45
schestowitzI had to pace down publication when the load was around 20Sep 09 10:45
iophkWhat's the traffic like today?Sep 09 10:45
schestowitznow it's 4.7Sep 09 10:45
schestowitzit's like back to Comes daysSep 09 10:45
schestowitzBut in Comes day we had no varnish installedSep 09 10:45
schestowitz*daysSep 09 10:45
schestowitzWe publish the Tunisia find before the press didSep 09 10:46
schestowitzAnd then some people in Twitter (maybe 20) linked to itSep 09 10:46
iophkThere were several Tunisia cablesSep 09 10:46
schestowitzBut I don't know what had it go mainstream, it might be others tooSep 09 10:46
schestowitztodsay I published another one about TunisiaSep 09 10:46
schestowitzBut it's not as nuclearSep 09 10:47
schestowitzI got some mail from journalistsSep 09 10:47
schestowitzThere are some major articles comingSep 09 10:47
schestowitzBut I cam't comment on these yetSep 09 10:47
iophkMajor articles from the journalists?Sep 09 10:47
schestowitzyesSep 09 10:49
schestowitzThey needed pointers in case ther articles will be challenged by editorsSep 09 10:49
schestowitzI have some patents-related cables queued upSep 09 10:50
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iophkWhat aspect of patents?Sep 09 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cablegate: #Microsoft Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/#Linux - http://bit.ly/ox82j9 truly shabby behaviourSep 09 10:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/Linux, Wants to Treat Vietnamese Like ‘Pirates’ Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.13 KBSep 09 10:58
DaemonFCis it just me, or does everytime Firefox says Know Your Rights I start reciting the Miranda warning?Sep 09 10:59
DaemonFCmaybe I'm just an ass :PSep 09 10:59
schestowitziophk: bringing swpats into europeSep 09 10:59
iophkThat's what I thought.Sep 09 10:59
iophkMisery loves company and all that.Sep 09 10:59
schestowitzfunny to see apple fans squirming todaySep 09 11:00
schestowitzwhen I make remarks about appleSep 09 11:00
iophkswpats need to be removed from the USSep 09 11:00
iophkApple deserves a lot of remarks.Sep 09 11:00
schestowitzthey can't even see where they're being manipulatedSep 09 11:00
DaemonFCthey're passing patent reform in the US, with "reform" meaning making it faster and easier for big companies to get patents and using tax money to streamline the approval processSep 09 11:00
iophkIt's not good that nearly everything is tied to iTunes nowadaysSep 09 11:00
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 11:00
schestowitzThe EC once upon a time looked into itunes monopolySep 09 11:01
schestowitzwhat hever came out of that?Sep 09 11:01
DaemonFCschestowitz: probably the same thing that goes on hereSep 09 11:02
DaemonFCthe company being indicted bakes a pie for the legislatorsSep 09 11:02
DaemonFCfilled with $100sSep 09 11:03
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 11:03
DaemonFCand the whole thing blows overSep 09 11:03
iophkiTunes is not so much a monopoly as it is a means for vendor lock-inSep 09 11:10
iophkAll kinds of apps and appliances are getting tied to it.Sep 09 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple sees Galaxy #Tab ban upheld in Germany over #Samsung patent lawsuit - http://tnw.co/pMjAg2 in notoriously patent-friendly courtSep 09 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple sees Galaxy Tab ban complaint upheld in Germany over Samsung patent lawsuit .::. Size~: 81.23 KBSep 09 11:12
DaemonFC[06:11] <DaemonFC> if a person doesn't know what kind of processor they have, should you really be helping them format their hard drive? :)Sep 09 11:13
DaemonFCme on Ubuntu recommending the 32-bit ISOSep 09 11:13
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cablegate: “42% of Argentine Firms Use #Linux on at Least Some of Their Computers” - http://bit.ly/n5PWar v interesting stat #argentinaSep 09 11:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: “42 Percent of Argentine Firms Use Linux on at Least Some of Their Computers” | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.91 KBSep 09 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK bookseller Waterstone’s to launch a Kindle competitor - http://tnw.co/oOQZKP will it be #android based? #ebooksSep 09 11:20
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLSep 09 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In the attic with a torch fitting a socket. I cut the wrong end of the wire. Bother!Sep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BSA secret agenda: open source saves the world http://ur1.ca/51jw0 #microsoft #frontgroupSep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !Trisquel mini 5.0 Alpha-20110908 i686 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d26c2b5f79c7e9e846424e9fee8a03edc9b52c5aSep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !Trisquel mini 5.0 Alpha-20110908 amd64 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:54e2b27fb27d6a79ce58f66ce9f7ac5012727ce7Sep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !Trisquel 5.0 Alpha-20110908 i686 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a6738f5237d47f7540893f82f4e809b11efa3663Sep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !Trisquel 5.0 Alpha-20110908 amd64 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:79d41ce1a492f2f6ac6e014754a5df0a739a6eb6Sep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !Trisquel Triskel 5.0 Alpha-20110908 i686 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:642e9391c21c16bf94a4cd8b5a479c417c6a2365Sep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #HP splits #webOS off from the hardware division it wants to sell http://goo.gl/rA6tqSep 09 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !Trisquel Triskel 5.0 Alpha-20110908 amd64 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c3142dc4e3badbae4f09cb6263df10200e00fa56Sep 09 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BSA secret agenda: open source saves the world | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.29 KBSep 09 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP splits webOS off from the hardware division it wants to sell .::. Size~: 31.5 KBSep 09 11:25
DaemonFCschestowitz: You think that's enough Trisquel spam? :)Sep 09 11:28
*draoan_ is now known as draoanSep 09 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK bookseller Waterstone’s to launch a Kindle competitor - http://tnw.co/oOQZKP will it be #android based? #ebooksSep 09 11:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK bookseller Waterstone's to launch a Kindle competitor - TNW UK .::. Size~: 82.86 KBSep 09 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Off to the shops for a junction box :(Sep 09 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Murdoch’s News International reportedly launching new online publication in the UK - http://tnw.co/owkd9y but will they call it Delphi 2.0?Sep 09 11:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: News International launching new online publication in the UK - TNW UK .::. Size~: 84.41 KBSep 09 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Murdoch’s News nt reportedly launching new online publication in the UK - http://tnw.co/owkd9y will they call it Delphi 2.0?Sep 09 11:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: News International launching new online publication in the UK - TNW UK .::. Size~: 84.36 KBSep 09 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @glynmoody: Murdoch reportedly launching new online publication in the UK http://tnw.co/owkd9y will they call it Delphi 2.0?Sep 09 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: News International launching new online publication in the UK - TNW UK .::. Size~: 84.36 KBSep 09 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Firefox download manager appears http://ur1.ca/51kig Mozilla Issues Do-not-track Guide for Advertisers http://ur1.ca/51kitSep 09 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Firefox download manager appears in UX build – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 62.36 KBSep 09 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Issues Do-not-track Guide for Advertisers | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 71.85 KBSep 09 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat starts marketing Centennial Campus space http://ur1.ca/51koa given that US govt. lobbies against Red Hat, why should RHT pay tax?Sep 09 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anonymisation service, AWM Proxy, uses botnet as proxies http://bit.ly/od50Jc « Leaving legality aside that service will be VERY anonymousSep 09 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat starts marketing Centennial Campus space  - Triangle Business Journal .::. Size~: 83.89 KBSep 09 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymisation service uses botnet as proxies - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.32 KBSep 09 11:45
schestowitzByfield is gonna give ammo to troll http://www.datamation.com/open-source/eight-complaints-about-the-linux-desktop-1.htmlSep 09 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eight Complaints About the Linux Desktop - Datamation .::. Size~: 71.05 KBSep 09 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] King of KDistros http://ur1.ca/51kum !kde distro contest?Sep 09 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Experience: King of KDistros .::. Size~: 127.66 KBSep 09 11:47
MinceRto which one, himself?Sep 09 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is getting harder to see what FOSS companies would wish to be located in N. America when the government treats FOSS w/ red scare tacticsSep 09 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cables show us that Microsoft pretends to be "local" company by hiding behind proxies that deal with government contracts in UK, Jordan, etcSep 09 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Mageia Needs Artists http://ur1.ca/51l0g #gnu #linuxSep 09 11:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia Needs Artists .::. Size~: 34.37 KBSep 09 11:52
schestowitzMinceR: good pointSep 09 11:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://nicolasb.com.ar/2011/09/activating-tildes-and-accents-for-a-usa-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu/Sep 09 11:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nicolás Brailovsky  » Blog Archive   » Activating tildes and accents for a USA keyboard layout in Ubuntu .::. Size~: 19.73 KBSep 09 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Survey] Is Piracy the Biggest Threat to !Android Developers?Planet Android|Steven Blum http://bit.ly/mQBujk « Mainly about commercial devsSep 09 11:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Survey] Is Piracy the Biggest Threat to Android Developers? - AndroidPIT .::. Size~: 106.16 KBSep 09 11:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83216427Sep 09 12:02
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 10:52:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It's to do with the easy ability to register non profits isn't it? I heard it's very expensive in some countries, like Germany?Sep 09 12:02
schestowitzHey used companies that are based overseas, not just NGOs (that they stuff ballots with)Sep 09 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Death of the command line revisited http://ur1.ca/51ley as dead as a cogwheelSep 09 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Cablegate: #Microsoft Asks US Govt to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/#Linux - http://bit.ly/ox82j9 shabby behaviourSep 09 12:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death of the command line revisited .::. Size~: 35.52 KBSep 09 12:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft Asks US Government to Help Derail Vietnam’s Migration to GNU/Linux, Wants to Treat Vietnamese Like ‘Pirates’ Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.13 KBSep 09 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: All prior Cablegate redactions have now been reversed can be searched on http://t.co/4SOEbx3Sep 09 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft ism hardly about technical merit. it's about back room deal, lobbying, bribes, favours, cronyism, and systematic lies.Sep 09 12:05
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple is an example of a company that took other people's ideas, work, and code, made them proprietary, then mass-marketed.Sep 09 12:07
iophkThey've done a good job of that.Sep 09 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Phonon-Xine is dead. Long live Phonon-GStreamer. http://ur1.ca/51lga #Phonon !kdeSep 09 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @schestowitz: Apple ... took other people's ideas, work, and code, made them proprietary, then mass-marketedSep 09 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phonon-Xine is dead. Long live Phonon-GStreamer. | wm161.net .::. Size~: 19.5 KBSep 09 12:08
MinceRif quality was not a criterion, that is.Sep 09 12:09
DaemonFChttp://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/09/0222230/Apple-Criticized-For-Not-Blocking-Stolen-CertsSep 09 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Criticized For Not Blocking Stolen Certs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 119.62 KBSep 09 12:09
MinceRmaybe they'll block them... in a few yearsSep 09 12:09
MinceRin their normal rate of integrating others' security fixes :>Sep 09 12:10
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83217345Sep 09 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 11:05:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It would be nice to see countries making it easier to register non profits though. Some EU states have far too many tripwiresSep 09 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moving on http://ur1.ca/51lgc about desktop environments.Sep 09 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] X.Org Smooth Scrolling Prepped For Merging http://ur1.ca/51lgl #xorg #linuxSep 09 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @PopMech: Google gives old Motorola patents to HTC to fight Apple. Patent wars=way out of hand http://t.co/HFqcCRjSep 09 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moving on « Larry the Free Software Guy .::. Size~: 78.4 KBSep 09 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] X.Org Smooth Scrolling Prepped For Merging .::. Size~: 16.16 KBSep 09 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Patents are a bit like Nuclear deterrents. They only work until someone fires the first shot, RE http://bit.ly/mU7XJqSep 09 12:20
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 MovedSep 09 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Patents are a bit like Nuclear deterrents. They only work until someone fires the first shotSep 09 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @sandersch: RT @matjan Once more: Fuck Apple. #patentwarsSep 09 12:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/112121904239878144Sep 09 12:25
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: :@schestowitz Wrong! Both are taking place. You cannot defeat MS if you can't appreciate all their strengths.Sep 09 12:25
schestowitzSpoken like a true former Microsoft employee. Oh wait...Sep 09 12:25
schestowitzHe isSep 09 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yet Another Pro-Keystone XL Pipeline Front Group Set Up In Nebraska http://ur1.ca/51mbm #astroturf #pollutionSep 09 12:25
schestowitzLOLSep 09 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yet Another Pro-Keystone XL Pipeline Front Group Set Up In Nebraska | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 33.34 KBSep 09 12:25
schestowitzPretends to be pro-FOSSSep 09 12:25
schestowitzWhile whitewashing Microsoft, his former employerSep 09 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Economist comment detailing Cablegate2 timeline http://t.co/BVWMyVJSep 09 12:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: 'Employers much prefer that workers be fungible...'—is why so many #software jobs SUCK! http://t.co/d06msVESep 09 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Lubuntu Software Center (Lightweight USC Alternative For Lubuntu 11.10) http://ur1.ca/51me3Sep 09 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @anivar: Oscar-Winning Video Editor ‘Lightworks’ To Land On Linux In December http://t.co/gPshBg8Sep 09 12:30
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Install Lubuntu Software Center (Lightweight USC Alternative For Lubuntu 11.10) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.5 KBSep 09 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ave/@ave] RT @schestowitz ♻ @anivar: Oscar-Winning Video Editor ‘Lightworks’ To Land On Linux In December http://t.co/gPshBg8Sep 09 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: .Sep 09 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @mczyzewski: dinozaury rocka vs. dobro wspólne - 1:0, EU wydłuża ochronę nagrań muzycznych z 50 do 70 lat http://is.gd/REArWkSep 09 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Victory for Cliff's law .::. Size~: 93 KBSep 09 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: ♻ @anivar: Oscar-Winning Video Editor ‘Lightworks’ To Land On Linux In December http://t.co/gPshBg8 /cc @nj3maSep 09 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NVIDIA CEO: quad-core tablets to launch this year http://ur1.ca/51msa "50% of the Android smartphone market and 70% of the Android tablet"Sep 09 12:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NVIDIA CEO: quad-core tablets to launch this year .::. Size~: 93.06 KBSep 09 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks Guardian "redacted" "Tymoshenko hid her wealth in property and investments in the UK” from WikiLeaks cable http://t.co/ff807diSep 09 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EU Officially Seizes The Public Domain, Retroactively Extends #Copyright http://ur1.ca/51mt7 thanks to #cablegate we know how it goesSep 09 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Test post using http://gplus.sagg.im/Sep 09 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks Guardian "redacted" "Tymoshenko hid her wealth in property and investments in the UK” from WikiLeaks cable ...Sep 09 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jra_samba Interesting info from the ODF vs OOXML wars. MS presenting Brazil support for ODF as an "attack on IPR": http://t.co/U533KL2Sep 09 12:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Officially Seizes The Public Domain, Retroactively Extends Copyright | Techdirt .::. Size~: 112.68 KBSep 09 12:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sync Google+ to Twitter, Identi.ca and Facebook. Cross-post by sharing your post with our Google+ bot .::. Size~: 3.63 KBSep 09 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab ♻ @ IPQuestor #IP News:Microsoft Milks More Patent Licensing Dollars Out of Android Manufacturers - DailyTech http://t.co/jX5YbBPSep 09 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz ♻ @zoobab ♻ @ IPQuestor #IP News:Microsoft Milks More Patent Licensing Dollars Out of Android Manufacturers - DailyTech ...Sep 09 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A new release process for Ubuntu? http://ur1.ca/51mtu new version every month?Sep 09 12:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A new release process for Ubuntu? | Scott James Remnant .::. Size~: 67.22 KBSep 09 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What are the easiest cli !twitter clients that still work (with OAuth) ? I'd prefer standalone (not for Emacs etc)Sep 09 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If culture becomes a common communication tool, why rely on what can forbid expression? http://ur1.ca/51mu3 #copyright #failSep 09 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "US says King Abdullah older than previously assumed, was still using Viagra at age 92" http://ur1.ca/51muj #cablegate #lolSep 09 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Saudi king’s Viagra habits - Israel News, Ynetnews .::. Size~: 39.48 KBSep 09 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Expecting Civilian Deaths, US Embassy Approved of Deadly Attack on Crowded Haitian Slum http://ur1.ca/51n7f #cablegate #violence #haitiSep 09 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Violent parents http://i.imgur.com/rfJw2.gifSep 09 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Kernel comment: The obstacle course of cooperation http://t.co/oxzE1CF #broadcom #linux #wifiSep 09 13:02
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/112124590309900289Sep 09 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz Don't make it about me. I realize your emotions might make it difficult to be rational, but just understand: MS does both.Sep 09 13:02
schestowitzThanks for the daily Microsoft PR dose.Sep 09 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Bit.ly's shortened links are clicked for an average of three hours until traffic subsides by 50 percent (Engadget): http://engt.co/nRx62RSep 09 13:07
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83221209Sep 09 13:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 12:03:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz wow. rejuvenating the phrase "dirty old bastard"Sep 09 13:09
schestowitz:-)Sep 09 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/NTM0JNaSep 09 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD 9.0 Beta 2 Released; Needs Installer Testing http://ur1.ca/51nag #bsd #unixSep 09 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux 1.2.0 Released http://ur1.ca/51nas "20,000 forum posts and over 100,000 downloads later"Sep 09 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 10 Things To Do With an iPhone Prototype Found Abandoned in a Bar http://ur1.ca/51nbb #hypepphone #apple #policeSep 09 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The Ceasar has marked you for death."Sep 09 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] An inch a day is progress, sometimes great progress even.Sep 09 13:20
MinceRi like Innocent Bystander's answer to the hypePhone questionSep 09 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] After years gathering dust I have got weights down from the attic. Only problem is I can hardly lift them anymore.Sep 09 13:23
schestowitzWhat's that?Sep 09 13:27
iophkHis idea was that the phone was 'leaked' deliberately and thus it should be ignored.Sep 09 13:29
schestowitzI see that the Microsoft AstroTurfers are really winning the fight today... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/b922fc7a17576e35#Sep 09 13:29
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MinceR"This phone leak is deliberate to create free publicity. The best thing to do is just to destroy it and don’t talk about it. Then you will see, by some miracle, right after that there will be another one lost in another bar. And if by some miracle, still no one talk about the 2nd leak, there will be full of others waiting to be leaked."Sep 09 13:30
schestowitziophk: why should phones leak?Sep 09 13:30
schestowitzMaybr the antenna might now workSep 09 13:30
schestowitzBut they can develop openlySep 09 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana Yes! Can you somehow take it all? Perhaps even better? ~;-) But be sure you can take it without being tainted.Sep 09 13:30
MinceRaren't they too proud to make an antenna that works?Sep 09 13:30
abushcrafterWhere are the logs? If any. Or could you post the link to the Speex encodeSep 09 13:30
schestowitzOh, I forgot to post logs Sep 09 13:31
schestowitzHang on..Sep 09 13:31
abushcrafterthanksSep 09 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: #W3C starts do-not-track standardisation http://t.co/CylL7Me #DNT #ePrivacy. Should proceed w/ legal contex http://p.ost.im/p/eFxqhjSep 09 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mmmmm butchers chilli sausage sarnie.Sep 09 13:40
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schestowitzabushcrafter: http://techrights.org/2011/09/09/irc-log-08092011/Sep 09 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am now going to lay on my lunch in the attic and no doubt feel a little ill.Sep 09 13:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IRC Proceedings: September 8th, 2011 | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.47 KBSep 09 13:42
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83222598 http://identi.ca/conversation/80547911#notice-83222598Sep 09 13:44
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 12:23:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Bloody hell! What was that about?Sep 09 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.47 KBSep 09 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Extension of #Copyright term for Sound Recordings in EU - http://bit.ly/ps2vGv good summary of a disgraceful, unjustifiable move #monopoliesSep 09 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK promises #transparency at home whilst fighting it in Brussels - http://bit.ly/pVidJB hypocrisy, thy name is Dave (& Nick)Sep 09 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government of Castile-La Mancha to drive free software innovation within MORFEO community - http://bit.ly/peMvpL #opensource moves in #spainSep 09 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/9/2011: Bodhi Linux 1.2.0, VortexBox 1.10 http://ur1.ca/51o1c !techrightsSep 09 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 9/9/2011: Bodhi Linux 1.2.0, VortexBox 1.10 http://ur1.ca/51o1c #techrightsSep 09 14:07
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abushcrafterWhats the status of the Speex encode of a podcast? I can't find anything in the IRC log.Sep 09 14:11
ender_2600http://youtu.be/p4Se9kewCdUSep 09 14:11
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ender_2600LOLSep 09 14:11
ender_2600McGuinty is the Tax ManSep 09 14:11
ender_2600I love attack adsSep 09 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Is your intranet fit for the future? | http://red.ht/qsZdoy #hackmanagement #Capgemini #collaboration #yammerSep 09 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] First 'chatbot' conversation ends in argument http://is.gd/J5zwGj bits imitating lifeSep 09 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle v. #Google - Google's Expert Report - http://bit.ly/npic9H "I disagree with Prof. Mitchell’s conclusion"; no surprise...Sep 09 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverse !tzagSep 09 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Interesting answer from Francis Maude shows grasp of FRAND & open source is growing in UK government http://wmk.me/pZACFySep 09 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hoping the plumber calls today (it would be *really* nice to stop the leak BEFORE the weekend) :oSep 09 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes indeedy, @x11r5, the keyboard is where it's at, jack ;)Sep 09 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hey there @zotz, been a while :)Sep 09 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google set to introduce Dart, a new structured programming language -- Engadget http://engt.co/o5ITzJSep 09 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Office 365, Hotmail and SkyDrive hit by outage • The Register http://bit.ly/rjwwl3Sep 09 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "The AOL civil war [has] descended into a sad, juvenile battle for WordPress admin privileges" (Valleywag): http://gaw.kr/o4CUy4Sep 09 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Syrian demonstrators call for international protection http://j.mp/nKtaip #anon #syria #piracySep 09 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kernel comment: The obstacle course of cooperation - http://bit.ly/rrcfER raises important issues #linux #wifiSep 09 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Update Manager Indicator For !Ubuntu Brings Old Update Manager Behavior With Extra Features http://goo.gl/gJa9USep 09 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Install !Lubuntu Software Center (Lightweight USC Alternative For Lubuntu 11.10) http://goo.gl/VnBKOSep 09 15:10
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XFaCE*clap*clap*Sep 09 15:11
XFaCEGood morning to all!Sep 09 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Introduction to Ubuntu Development – Part 3 http://goo.gl/4SUfpSep 09 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Kicking off Jornadas de Software Libre at the Free Software masters program in Vigo, Spain http://fsfe.org/events/Sep 09 15:12
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Events .::. Size~: 306.97 KBSep 09 15:12
XFaCESchestowitz, Diablo-D3, ender_2600, msb, et al.Sep 09 15:12
msbhi, brbSep 09 15:13
MinceRj0 X-FaceSep 09 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @karsten Kicking off Jornadas de Software Libre at the Free Software masters program in Vigo, Spain http://fsfe.org/events/Sep 09 15:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Events .::. Size~: 306.97 KBSep 09 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @cgludp Free Software vs Open Source : #Tryton vs #OpenERP http://bit.ly/nDi8s8 !gnu !fsf !gnusolidarioSep 09 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @cgludp "La Democracia necesita Software Libre" http://ur1.ca/517oj !gnu !fsfe !fsSep 09 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeanMicio: Free Software versus Open Source: Tryton vs OpenERP .::. Size~: 65.88 KBSep 09 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La Democracia necesita Software Libre .::. Size~: 10.08 KBSep 09 15:15
XFaCEMinceR: XFCE + aSep 09 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Spain: Government of #Castile-La Mancha to drive free software innovation within #MORFEO community http://tinyurl.com/3m95vzj #gnu #linuxSep 09 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Serviciile online ale Microsoft au fost inaccesibile pentru mai bine de doua ore http://tinyurl.com/3fnhbhl #microsoft #romania #windowsSep 09 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Government of Castile-La Mancha to drive free software innovation within MORFEO community  — .::. Size~: 35.04 KBSep 09 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Serviciile online ale Microsoft au fost inaccesibile pentru mai bine de doua ore - IT - HotNews.ro .::. Size~: 110.74 KBSep 09 15:17
XFaCEMinceR: alsoSep 09 15:17
*XFaCE is now known as GoForbes28Sep 09 15:17
ender_2600heySep 09 15:17
MinceR:>Sep 09 15:17
ender_2600xfaceSep 09 15:17
GoForbes28For clarification purposesSep 09 15:17
*GoForbes28 is now known as XFaCESep 09 15:18
ender_2600why are you being a sock puppetSep 09 15:18
XFaCEfor what?Sep 09 15:18
ender_2600i didnt know yesterday that you are goforbes28Sep 09 15:18
XFaCEYeah, I only pointed that fact out a dozen times. :PSep 09 15:18
ender_2600ahh i seeSep 09 15:19
ender_2600i didnt noticeSep 09 15:19
ender_2600election time in ontarioSep 09 15:19
ender_2600time to get rid of the Tax ManSep 09 15:19
XFaCEWhy am I "being a sock puppet"?Sep 09 15:19
XFaCEOr rather, how am I?Sep 09 15:20
ender_2600using another pseudo name where it wasn't obvious who you wereSep 09 15:20
XFaCEFelt it was time for a changeSep 09 15:20
XFaCEPlus, I've made an effort to at some sort of transition strategySep 09 15:21
ender_2600i know the feelingSep 09 15:22
XFaCEYou just have to pay attention, ender_2600Sep 09 15:22
ender_2600i usually stick with changing just the number so i dont get accused of nymshiftingSep 09 15:22
XFaCEI think "name shifting" is ok so long as you keep it to a minimumSep 09 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The versatility of #science graduates should be celebrated not criticised - http://bit.ly/pqFRyo absolutely spot on #employmentSep 09 15:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The versatility of science graduates should be celebrated not criticised | Imran Khan | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 238.36 KBSep 09 15:23
XFaCEMinceR: Are we all clear?Sep 09 15:24
XFaCEMinceR: GoodSep 09 15:24
MinceRhm?Sep 09 15:25
MinceRi realized yesterday that you were GoForbes28 :>Sep 09 15:25
XFaCEAh, good.Sep 09 15:25
XFaCEMy strategy partially worked.Sep 09 15:25
XFaCEIt was a partial success.Sep 09 15:25
MinceRif i wanted to know from the start, i would have grepped the logs for your username (which was familiar)Sep 09 15:26
XFaCEahSep 09 15:26
XFaCEIt appears I may have borrowed your nickname styleSep 09 15:27
XFaCE:PSep 09 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft to equip Windows 8 with virtualization hosting - Computerworld http://bit.ly/pm1lTUSep 09 15:27
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MinceRit's not that close and i wouldn't mind anywaySep 09 15:27
XFaCEAbASep 09 15:27
XFaCEAAbAASep 09 15:27
XFaCEYou don't have a patent on that, do you MinceR? :)Sep 09 15:28
MinceRnopeSep 09 15:29
MinceRbesides, capitalizing the first and last letters of a word isn't exactly novel :>Sep 09 15:29
XFaCEIt was a joke, MinceRSep 09 15:29
MinceRicSep 09 15:30
XFaCEYou totally murdered it. :SSep 09 15:30
*MinceR collects XP and loots the body.Sep 09 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK! I've installed !Fedora 15 and I'm giving !Gnome 3 another shot - I'm nothing if not stubbornSep 09 15:32
XFaCEbrbSep 09 15:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The other thing I need to figure out is how to enable autologin in !Fedora 15 (I know I know; it's insecure, but I trust my family)Sep 09 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Patent Reform Passes the Senate with Teeth, Heart Missing - http://rww.to/nqvHw3 don't expect a brain, either...Sep 09 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller Josh Woodward’s Top 5 Tips for Artist Exposure. Making money on @CreativeCommons music with !Jamendo http://ur1.ca/51oz0 !ccSep 09 15:43
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MinceRhttp://www.gocomics.com/getfuzzySep 09 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bliar: How Much Death Can One Man Want? - http://bit.ly/o2z9yg go on, tell us what you really feel... #iraq #iran #tortureSep 09 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody The versatility of #science graduates should be celebrated not criticised - http://bit.ly/pqFRyo absolutely spot on #emplo ...Sep 09 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] xkcd: File Transfer http://j.mp/p6OUmuSep 09 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #Lanyrd went from Casablanca to conference circuit - http://bit.ly/qwWnvb nice interview with @simonwSep 09 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just made new !identica group for Ontario Politics http://identi.ca/group/ontpoli use !OntPoli or !OnPoli *sigh*Sep 09 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The last thing we needed was education cuts @qubitarkhive What was needed was better utilization of education funds #accountability !OntPoliSep 09 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Practical Tips For Piratenpartei Berlin - http://bit.ly/neMVmu "chance of success in the election has now climbed from 90% to 99%." #germanySep 09 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @claudiom: Surf the web over SMS? For free? Um, yes please! http://ur1.ca/51penSep 09 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Innovation & OpenStack: Lessons from HTTP - http://bit.ly/raphl4 I don't get this: surely building on AWS APIs hands control to Amazon?Sep 09 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Which city has the most painful commute in the world? - http://bit.ly/ox3gRX I guessed this, but probably sheer luck...Sep 09 16:35
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XFaCEhi schestowitzSep 09 16:38
XFaCEare you there?Sep 09 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Study Suggests Magnets Can Force You to Tell the Truth - http://bit.ly/ozNsnF but can they make you believe stories like this...?Sep 09 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz you should have dropped 'round for a cup of coffee :)Sep 09 16:38
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XFaCEoh wellSep 09 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Samsung to show a Windows 8 tablet next week, report says - Computerworld http://bit.ly/pfm83JSep 09 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “An Extreme Rainfall Event Unprecedented in Recorded History Has Hit the Binghamton, New York Area” - http://bit.ly/qkMkN6 extreme enough?Sep 09 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft’s Hotmail and Windows Live knocked offline http://tinyurl.com/3rakked #microsoft #windows #cloud #fail #internetSep 09 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Too bad, it would have been on the way ... next time :DSep 09 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz You might even have been able to catch one of the free summer bluegrass concerts in my Dad's seriesSep 09 17:00
ender_260012:46 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] âAn Extreme Rainfall Event Unprecedented in Recorded History Has Hit the Binghamton, New York AreaâSep 09 17:00
ender_2600http://antinewworldorder.blogspot.com/2011/09/sweet-nile-raft.htmlSep 09 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft’s online services briefly go dark http://tinyurl.com/3kxbo5c #microsoft #windows #softwareSep 09 17:02
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ender_2600"The iNUNdation of the Nile.s Delta region is scheduled to begin on September 11th. It is not expected to recede until January 11, 2012. The midway point in that iNUNdation would therefore be November 11, 2011. Good luck to all the people of the northern hemisphere."Sep 09 17:02
ender_2600"One-hundred years ago, November 11th, 1911: The Great Blue Norther descended upon America. The day started fine; there were even record highs for that time of year. Then it all changed; temperatures began to drop. Within the space of ten minute: the temperature dropped 40 to 50 degrees; by midnight a 66 degree temperature drop was recorded. There were dust storms, thunderstorms, tornados, and blizzards. Over 300 deaths were Sep 09 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] WikiSym 2011 (Oct 3-5) is seeking student volunteers! Apply by Sept 24. CC is an official sponsor. http://bit.ly/qwWZjaSep 09 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yikes... i've done it again... morning has broken and gone << back to work, girl ... #nowonderiambehindSep 09 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @ludost: "I can be changed by what happens to me, but I refuse to be reduced by it." -- Maya Angelou !q #qt4dSep 09 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Consultation on scientific information in digital age - http://bit.ly/nCgRI6 closes today: pl. do this now - only takes 5' #openaccessSep 09 17:10
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XFaCEender_2600: Poor wilderbeastsSep 09 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Proposal for a WTO Agreement on the Supply of Knowledge as a Public Good - http://bit.ly/nVgQkl now *that's* an ideaSep 09 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pictures Show Perry Physically Intimidating Ron Paul http://is.gd/Ei9w2jSep 09 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In a Bold Move Towards Accountability, Road Casualty Data Published Online in UK - http://rww.to/pMeh6Y kudos to all involved #opendataSep 09 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Police attempting to criminalise investigative #journalism - http://bit.ly/o3niZc very bad trendSep 09 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Status update from my 3D printer: X/Y precicion is now within .01 mm tolerance. #proud #eamker #huxley #reprapSep 09 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP Cloud Services beta leaves key questions unanswered (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/nRYDWeSep 09 17:47
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XFaCEhi twitterSep 09 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #RIAA Sending #DMCA Takedowns On *FREE* Music Being Distributed Directly Off Universal Website & Promoted By Artist - http://bit.ly/ndnWrPSep 09 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Guardian announces ten new Guardian Shorts #ebooks - http://bit.ly/oNwN4w interesting repackaging of old stuff (v @currybet @charlesarthur)Sep 09 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arduino ADK spices up phones - http://bit.ly/o26sQG very cool: #arduino meets #androidSep 09 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Dear identiverse, I hereby sincerely apologize for all perceived acts of #troll'ing @bkuhn.Sep 09 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Patents Directed to Human Organisms - http://bit.ly/nSKu6W the makings of another mess?Sep 09 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear #W3C DOM, I hate you so much right now!Sep 09 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz problem would only arise if purpose attached to $ is not aligned with org's mission, as I wrote beforeSep 09 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Remnant: A new release process for Ubuntu? http://lwn.net/Articles/458233/rssSep 09 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "the guardians of internet security seem badly to need guarding themselves." - http://www.economist.com/node/21528601Sep 09 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @arder: Disponible La versión 3.0 de Dyne:Bolic, distribución solo con #SoftwareLibre orientada a música-vídeo http://ur1.ca/51p5o !gnullSep 09 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] In summary, I'd been dealing (or not dealing) with depression, breaking up with my ex exacerbated that, and I wasn't doing much of anything.Sep 09 18:28
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twitterhello XFaCESep 09 18:39
ender_2600hey xfaceSep 09 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @JPBarlow: Public opinion surprises: Terrorism, civil liberties and causes of anti-American attacks: http://t.co/n7xvyRVSep 09 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 18:40
twitterThese CableGate stories are fantastic.Sep 09 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lwnnet Remnant: A new release process for Ubuntu? http://lwn.net/Articles/458233/rssSep 09 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Remnant: A new release process for Ubuntu? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.22 KBSep 09 18:42
ender_2600they areSep 09 18:42
twitterThey show the US Government actively promoting Microsoft and blocking privacy measures.Sep 09 18:42
*schestowitz backSep 09 18:42
ender_2600which oneSep 09 18:42
*schestowitz got 6 new posts to publishSep 09 18:42
ender_2600the encryption one has a sensationalist headlineSep 09 18:42
twitterThe stuff from Cuba is explicit.Sep 09 18:42
ender_2600encryption has been illegal for a long time as an export to cubaSep 09 18:42
twitterright but the cable ties that policy to Microsoft and prove the the US Government knew the consequences. Sep 09 18:43
ender_2600complying with the law isn't a conspiracySep 09 18:43
ender_2600the cable also mentions google talk has been blocked prior to microsoft blocking windows live messengerSep 09 18:44
twitterdoing things that you know harms dissidents and attacks basic human rights is very wrongSep 09 18:44
ender_2600it also says microsoft is doing cuba's job for themSep 09 18:44
MinceRcomplying laws you've bought can be a conspiracySep 09 18:44
MinceRs/la/with &/Sep 09 18:44
ender_2600microsoft did not buy the encryption lawSep 09 18:44
ender_2600thats been in effect since the 80sSep 09 18:45
twitterthe cables show that the US Government has shifted from considering Cuba an enemy of freedom to a "state sponsored terrorism"  Sep 09 18:45
twitterthat's a bad shiftSep 09 18:45
ender_2600no it doesntSep 09 18:45
ender_2600they've been a state sponsor of terrorism according to the USA since 82Sep 09 18:45
ender_2600predating microsoftSep 09 18:45
twitterthat's exactly the problem -> ender_2600: it also says microsoft is doing cuba's job for themSep 09 18:46
ender_2600the cable is just talking about microsoft complying with the already decades old lawSep 09 18:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83242256Sep 09 18:46
TechrightsBot-tr@David Kolibáč (w4rr10r)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 17:26:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Dammit. GStreamer sucks (unstable, bad sound quality on all my systems) and I'm having trouble with VLC too.Sep 09 18:46
schestowitz[18:45] <ender_2600> predating microsoftSep 09 18:46
schestowitzThat's a rd herringSep 09 18:46
twitterThe results in Tunisia and Libya are also explicit Sep 09 18:46
schestowitzThere's lots more comingSep 09 18:47
ender_2600http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Sponsors_of_TerrorismSep 09 18:47
twitterit's good stuffSep 09 18:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: State Sponsors of Terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 64.4 KBSep 09 18:47
schestowitzAnd I got journalists working with me to cover those :-)Sep 09 18:47
ender_2600The list began on December 29, 1979, with Libya, Iraq, South Yemen, and Syria.Sep 09 18:47
twitteragain, ender_2600, I think you are missing the pointSep 09 18:47
ender_2600no im notSep 09 18:47
schestowitzIraq? Isn't that an American state now?Sep 09 18:47
ender_2600im not going to lie to people and say microsoft got encryption bannedSep 09 18:48
ender_260014:38 < schestowitz> Iraq? Isn't that an American state now?Sep 09 18:48
ender_26001979Sep 09 18:48
schestowitzI didn't say it didSep 09 18:48
schestowitzIt did it for the governmentSep 09 18:48
twitterblocking encryption export did nothing to harm Cuban government but did harm the actual rights of Cuban citizens. Sep 09 18:48
schestowitzothers didn'tSep 09 18:48
schestowitz!google slashdot blocked syriaSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - MS Removes HTTPS From Hotmail For Troubled Nations - Slashdot | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/03/26/0053203/MS-Removes-HTTPS-From-Hotmail-For-Troubled-NationsSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Syria Drops Off the Internet As Turmoil Spikes - Slashdot | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/06/03/1923213/Syria-Drops-Off-the-Internet-As-Turmoil-SpikesSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Twitter / @deepankarb/tech | http://twitter.com/deepankarb/techSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Internet, mobiles blocked in Damascus ahead of planned protests ... | http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1647408.php/Internet-mobiles-blocked-in-Damascus-ahead-of-planned-protestsSep 09 18:48
ender_2600it didnt do it for the governmentSep 09 18:48
ender_2600it did it to comply with the lawSep 09 18:48
schestowitz!google sourceforge blocked syriaSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Post Clinton's Internet Freedom Speech:US- SourceForge Blocked ... | http://arabcrunch.com/2010/01/following-clintons-internet-freedom-speech-us-based-sourceforge-blocked-syria-sudan-iran-korea-cuba-is-open-source-still-really-open.htmlSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SourceForge blocks Iran, North Korea, Syria, Sudan and Cuba | http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2010/01/25/sourceforge-blocks-iran-north-korea-syria-sudan-and-cuba/Sep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - US- SourceForge Blocked Syria, Sudan, Iran, N. Korea & Cuba: Is ... | http://ma3bar.org/en/english/126-us-sourceforge-blocked-syria-sudan-iran-n-korea-a-cuba-is-open-source-still-openSep 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - SourceForge.net: PhpGedView: Topic: PGV blocked in Cuba, Syria, etc. | http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpgedview/forums/forum/185165/topic/3549640Sep 09 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] @fontana Dear identiverse, I hereby apologize for polluting my subscribers' feeds w/ a personal revelation that was meant to be a private.Sep 09 18:48
schestowitzThey lifted the banSep 09 18:48
ender_2600complying with laws doesnt mean you work for the governmentSep 09 18:49
ender_2600they did not lift the banSep 09 18:49
schestowitzMicrosoft is ane extension of the govt. in a senseSep 09 18:49
schestowitzAnd the state, in exchange, serves MicrosoftSep 09 18:49
schestowitzAlter-egosSep 09 18:49
twitterMicrosoft has worked with other oppressive states, like China, to harm dissidents.  They are not an innocent partner. Sep 09 18:49
ender_2600ugh, you're a fool of you think Microsoft is an extension of the governmentSep 09 18:49
schestowitzand that's why europeans for  starters need to start saying "no"Sep 09 18:49
twitterI agree, it's more like the US Government is an extension of Microsoft Sep 09 18:49
schestowitzender_2600: I said in a senseSep 09 18:50
ender_2600Why is Microsoft helping communism?Sep 09 18:50
schestowitzThey are funded partly by MicrosoftSep 09 18:50
ender_2600its not :PSep 09 18:50
schestowitzGovernments in the US are mostly funded by corpsSep 09 18:50
schestowitzThat's not far fetched, it's a factSep 09 18:50
schestowitzand even most American don't delude themselvesSep 09 18:50
schestowitzthe congress has approval rate of 11%Sep 09 18:50
twittereither way both Microsoft and the US Government have put money and "IPR" before actual rights and have done very harmful things.Sep 09 18:50
schestowitzLOL "IPR"Sep 09 18:51
schestowitzLike it's the sacred cowSep 09 18:51
ender_2600they aren't doing anything worse than what the cuban government is already doingSep 09 18:51
schestowitzOh noes!!Sep 09 18:51
schestowitzBrazil is "attackingSep 09 18:51
schestowitzIPRSep 09 18:51
schestowitzRather than:Sep 09 18:51
schestowitzIPR has been raping brazil for decadesSep 09 18:51
schestowitzor not centuriesSep 09 18:51
twitterthey are not doing anything better than the Cuban government, and that's a crime.Sep 09 18:51
ender_2600they shouldnt have toSep 09 18:51
schestowitzSo brazil is now putting that rubbish oppression in the garbage canSep 09 18:51
twitterIPR is a sad joke, but it seems to be a policy priority for the US Government. Sep 09 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I wondered why I was hearing terrible music, then I realized I took my headphones off for a moment to eat. More coffee needed.Sep 09 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Algorithmic Trading Rapidly Replacing Need For Humans (Computerworld UK): http://bit.ly/pwCzbtSep 09 18:52
schestowitzI remember emails from Gates where he complained about RMS threatening "IPR", or maybe natah myhrvold wrote thatSep 09 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Algorithmic stock trading rapidly replacing humans, warns government paper - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 99.02 KBSep 09 18:52
schestowitz*nathanSep 09 18:52
twitterIPR == Microsoft revenue and power Sep 09 18:52
schestowitzIPR is defined as the law of, "what yours is mine, too"Sep 09 18:52
twitterit's meaninglessSep 09 18:52
schestowitzArtSep 09 18:52
schestowitzCodeSep 09 18:53
schestowitzSpeechSep 09 18:53
schestowitzCultureSep 09 18:53
schestowitzIt's justa  apointless propaganda termSep 09 18:53
schestowitzWe need to put that in the garbage canSep 09 18:53
schestowitzcopyright is something elseSep 09 18:53
schestowitzcopyright maximalism tooSep 09 18:53
schestowitzNot the same thingSep 09 18:53
schestowitzLike copyright after death of the creatorSep 09 18:54
twitterIf nothing else, we see the US Government applying the full force of US policy to promote Windows use at the expense of civil rights around the world.  Sep 09 18:54
twitterDid they do the same for Sun?  DEC?  Sep 09 18:54
twitterPerhaps they now do similar things for Apple.Sep 09 18:54
twitterbut I don't think any of those companies had the massive indoctrination/dumping programs that Microsoft has.Sep 09 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Register for #OER webinar (Sep 12) w/@cgreen: How.. Open Licenses + Open Policies = Sustainable Edu Resources for All" http://bit.ly/qw9aYySep 09 18:55
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ender_2600basicly what i've discovered is a cultSep 09 18:55
ender_2600instead of being like a christian and blaming everything on Satan, we have Microsoft as the ultimate evilSep 09 18:56
ender_2600google, facebook, and many others were also blocking cubansSep 09 18:56
MinceRtime for you to save microsoft, thenSep 09 18:56
ender_2600im not here to save microsoftSep 09 18:57
twitterThe cables show conclusively what informed people have suspected for a long time, that Windows use is imposed from the top down.  The cables show it being imposed on national governments, which in turn will impose it on businesses and citizens. Sep 09 18:57
ender_2600im here to stop liesSep 09 18:57
MinceRwho will stop microsoft's lies?Sep 09 18:57
twitterI'm going to ignore you now, ender_2600.  You are not here to have a constructive conversation. Sep 09 18:57
ender_2600I amSep 09 18:58
MinceRhe never wasSep 09 18:58
ender_2600you guys are blaming ms for something the us did 20+ years agoSep 09 18:58
ender_2600zealotry to the extremeSep 09 18:58
MinceRhe's just trolling as usualSep 09 18:58
MinceRand we only ban some of the trollsSep 09 18:58
ender_2600im not trollingSep 09 18:58
MinceRsays the trollSep 09 18:59
MinceRhow unpredictableSep 09 18:59
ender_2600just because we disagree im the trollSep 09 18:59
ender_2600I have valid points and im not trying to start a fightSep 09 18:59
ender_2600just want them addressedSep 09 19:00
ender_2600I made them yesterday and it was ignoredSep 09 19:00
MinceRyou have nutcase theories and automatic gainsaying, no valid pointsSep 09 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is remarkable that NATO have been working with elements of Al Qaeda in #Libya.Sep 09 19:00
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MinceRall you ever do is try to stir up controversy, then you wonder why people ignore youSep 09 19:01
schestowitzsometimes he doesSep 09 19:01
XFaCEhi schestowitzSep 09 19:01
schestowitzI think his point about cuba is worth debatingSep 09 19:01
schestowitzhi, XFaCESep 09 19:02
schestowitzHow's the work at the charity going?Sep 09 19:02
schestowitz[if you don't mind me inquiring]Sep 09 19:02
XFaCEThat ended weeks ago. :PSep 09 19:02
XFaCEAnd it wasn't a charity, it was a social skills camp for socially-disadvantaged kids.Sep 09 19:03
XFaCEI'm back in university againSep 09 19:03
schestowitzDoes the Canadian govt. help fund higher edu?Sep 09 19:04
MinceRhow could they? they have no money :>Sep 09 19:04
XFaCEpartially, but not nearly enough in my opinionSep 09 19:04
schestowitzMinceR: I think they're better off than the nighbours beneathSep 09 19:04
ender_2600actually they doSep 09 19:05
schestowitzThey also don't have idiotic puppet-oracles like Greenspan driving their economySep 09 19:05
XFaCEBoth the provincial and federal gov'ts have not been satisfactory in this regardSep 09 19:05
ender_2600I got money from the government for collegeSep 09 19:05
schestowitzexcellentSep 09 19:05
XFaCECollege has more funding than universitySep 09 19:05
schestowitzthe UK moves away from itSep 09 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @satipera: It is remarkable that NATO have been working with elements of Al Qaeda in #Libya.Sep 09 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Faux news said there were credible but unconfirmed rumours that one of their pieces was not neo con propaganda.Sep 09 19:05
schestowitzand national healthcare too might be coming under the axeSep 09 19:05
XFaCEIn Ontario at least, colleges are quasi-public/gov't institutionsSep 09 19:05
XFaCEUniversities are totally privateSep 09 19:06
ender_2600xface, the government forced me into a private college because it would be fasterSep 09 19:06
twitterLOL, from one of the Tunisian cables -> "Tunisian employees are highly educated and interested in learning new technologies." <- translation, they use gnu/linux.Sep 09 19:06
ender_2600xface, I had to learn Microsoft Server, Vista, blackberry and didn't get any LinuxSep 09 19:06
XFaCEender_2600: I dunno about that.  A friend of mine went to Algonquin College for a two year degreeSep 09 19:07
ender_2600xface, i went to TriOSSep 09 19:07
XFaCEender_2600: Algonquin has classes on gNU/LinuxSep 09 19:07
ender_2600it was a 4 month programSep 09 19:07
ender_260010 grandSep 09 19:07
XFaCEyikesSep 09 19:07
ender_2600not a loan :)Sep 09 19:07
XFaCEDon't doubt itSep 09 19:07
ender_2600the second career programSep 09 19:07
schestowitztwitter: the "new tech="=.NET?Sep 09 19:08
ender_2600i was on the shit end of the stickSep 09 19:08
schestowitzMicrosoft wants to de-program themSep 09 19:08
schestowitzLike rudo fochesco (beranger)Sep 09 19:08
ender_2600other people who got into second career before the funding cuts got into the 18 grand program that lasted a yearSep 09 19:08
XFaCEschestowitz: You are probably wondering why I have closed my Identi.ca account among other things.  I've been meaning to talk to you.Sep 09 19:08
schestowitzbecomes a MicrosoferSep 09 19:08
ender_2600TriOS was funny, i constantly questioned the teacher on his claims about LinuxSep 09 19:09
schestowitzXFaCE: identica in general seems to be decliningSep 09 19:09
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XFaCEschestowitz: Well, it has nothing to do with any dissatisfaction with Identi.caSep 09 19:10
XFaCEIt's more just a general direction I'm going inSep 09 19:10
XFaCEI would like you to remove me from the editors link on the Techrights main siteSep 09 19:10
XFaCELet me explain.Sep 09 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://lwn.net/Articles/458227/rssSep 09 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] DoT Grants $15M To Test Car-To-Car Communication, as a way to prevent accidents (IT World): http://bit.ly/r8XETkSep 09 19:12
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XFaCEAs you have noticed, I haven't been very active here.  This has nothing to do with any dissatisfaction with Techrights or anyone a part of it.  It is because I have been extremely busy.Sep 09 19:12
XFaCEThis is a very pivotal time for me, being in second year university, and I don't think I can provide very much effort or time to Techrights because of the need to focus on my studies.Sep 09 19:13
twitter"new tech" was left without qualification, Linux is explicitly mentioned later as a winner in competitive government bids.  Microsoft claimed that the low bidder method somehow ignored "quality", as if a government with better than average education was incompetent and that's why they did not chose Microsoft. Sep 09 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana Only the perceived ones? What about the intentional ones?Sep 09 19:13
XFaCEI don't it is fair for me to be credited for being a Techrights editor and wiki maintainer when I can't do either on a fairly regular basis.  If there is one think I dislike, it's misplaced credit.Sep 09 19:14
twitterXFaCE, everyone is a volunteer here.  Take care of yourself first and you will then be able to help others.  Roy and readers will take care of the credit.Sep 09 19:14
twitterThanks for everything you do.  Sep 09 19:15
XFaCEThere are others here who contribute far more than I do, like Eduardo who do far more than I doSep 09 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] The scientific method should be more embedded in society, not less. Imran Khan !q http://ur1.ca/51pbd #education #science #STEM #secularSep 09 19:15
XFaCEI also don't really want to call attention to myselfSep 09 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The versatility of science graduates should be celebrated not criticised | Imran Khan | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 265.53 KBSep 09 19:15
XFaCEWhen it comes to credit, I would rather be more anonymous frankly.Sep 09 19:16
twitterhave you made a wiki page about yourself?  XFaCE: I also don't really want to call attention to myselfSep 09 19:16
*XFaCE is now known as GoForbes28Sep 09 19:16
GoForbes28twitter, it's meSep 09 19:17
*GoForbes28 is now known as XFaCESep 09 19:17
twitterok, I still don't think you do a lot of attention getting for yourself.  Sep 09 19:17
twitterthanks again for what you do.Sep 09 19:17
twitter:)Sep 09 19:17
XFaCEyour welcome.  I do enjoy the work I do.Sep 09 19:17
XFaCEI just want to do it in a more minimalist, descrete waySep 09 19:18
XFaCEI'll still be on the IRC, and I will provide any links that I think our relavant.Sep 09 19:18
XFaCEI just want myself to be downplayed as much as possibleSep 09 19:18
XFaCEschestowitz: Can this be done?Sep 09 19:19
twitterlol -> "While disappointed in the lack of progress in improving IPR protection in Vietnam, Microsoft remains committed to engaging the GVN on this critical issue."Sep 09 19:20
twitterWouldn't it be nice to see cables talking about free press and other actual rights?Sep 09 19:20
XFaCEMakes me wonder what they think a crisis would be....Sep 09 19:20
twitterloss of a saleSep 09 19:21
twitterlike Munich Sep 09 19:21
XFaCEWell in that case, Microsoft would beyond a crisis :SSep 09 19:21
twitterQuick, interrupt Balmer's ski trip, offer them anything!Sep 09 19:21
XFaCE*be beyondSep 09 19:22
XFaCEschestowitz: Hidy ho?Sep 09 19:22
twitterWow, that cable has more.  "Switching to open source does not insulate theSep 09 19:24
twitterGVN from the responsibility of ensuring that all softwareSep 09 19:24
twitterused by the GVN is legitimately licensed, MicrosoftSep 09 19:24
twitterasserted."  just amazing.Sep 09 19:24
MinceRsure it does not. it just make it a hell of a lot easierSep 09 19:25
twitterI think the IPR angle deserves more attention in this context.  It expressly equates freedom with "piracy" because free software lacks digital hand cuffs.  Sep 09 19:26
twitterEric Raymond warned us that Microsoft would try to make free software use illegal.  This is how they are doing it.Sep 09 19:26
twitterThey bully governments with trade restrictions unless they surrender their people's software freedom.Sep 09 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How MI6 deal sent family to Gaddafi's jail http://gu.com/p/3xnmmSep 09 19:27
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twitterOther rights, of course, are trampled without software freedom.Sep 09 19:27
XFaCEI suppose I shouldn't write anything myself and share it with anyone under a CC license, since it isn't "properly licenced".Sep 09 19:27
twitterAndroid shows that it's only properly licensed if money goes to Microsoft.  Sep 09 19:28
twitterpay toll to the trollSep 09 19:28
twitteror elseSep 09 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Les Hinton rejects Clive Goodman's claims http://gu.com/p/3xnee perhaps he should switch to a career in #politics he has the integrity #NISep 09 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Investigative journalism must not be criminalised http://gu.com/p/3xne2 if only the majority weren't immoral scumbags who dunno the truthSep 09 19:28
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twitterwell, I have work to do.  thanks for all the great cable digging, Sep 09 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #UK #rioters were just like the #Kazon, lots of gangs all taking any opportunity to get #technology #StarTrek #VoyagerSep 09 19:32
schestowitztwitter: thanks fot the inputSep 09 19:33
schestowitzVERY interestingSep 09 19:33
schestowitzand completes my thoughtSep 09 19:33
schestowitze.g. re ESRSep 09 19:33
schestowitzXFaCE: hetSep 09 19:33
schestowitzsorry, just caught upSep 09 19:33
schestowitzbeen out for 4 hours today, was sunnySep 09 19:34
schestowitzXFaCE: I'll change the name in the editorsSep 09 19:34
schestowitzTo anon or pseudo-nymSep 09 19:34
schestowitzyou deserve creditSep 09 19:34
schestowitzyou help me so much, at lthe very least with the wikiSep 09 19:34
XFaCEOk, can we change the wiki name too?Sep 09 19:34
schestowitzand I want you to keep helping us, if time permitsSep 09 19:34
XFaCEsureSep 09 19:34
schestowitzXFaCE: yes, of courseSep 09 19:34
XFaCEBut I can't make any guranteesSep 09 19:34
schestowitzI'll do it nowSep 09 19:34
schestowitznpSep 09 19:35
XFaCEthxSep 09 19:35
schestowitzEdwardo too hasn't much time this monthSep 09 19:35
schestowitzPeople come and go, depending on how much time they haveSep 09 19:35
schestowitzand what goes on in their livesSep 09 19:36
schestowitzHmm.. site load is 21 nowSep 09 19:36
schestowitzserver hamemred, I can barely edit anythingSep 09 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm still not entirely happy with !Gnome 3 but I can just about live with it. There's no way I can live with !Unity so I've made my choiceSep 09 19:37
XFaCEI was listening to the Snit techbytes episodeSep 09 19:37
XFaCESince I cannot comment on his past history on COLA, I will admit that he does make some valid points that I can understand.Sep 09 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb Investigative journalism must not be criminalised http://gu.com/p/3xne2Sep 09 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Investigative journalism must not be criminalised | Heather Brooke | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 96.26 KBSep 09 19:39
XFaCEThe problem is, outside of that Techbytes episode, he often resort to condensation and attacks rather than civilized discussion.  There are exceptions, but rarely.Sep 09 19:39
XFaCEAs I said, I can't speak to his COLA history, but I can agree on him on some points.Sep 09 19:39
XFaCE*withSep 09 19:39
XFaCEJust FYi, schestowitzSep 09 19:40
XFaCEI'm not taking sides or anything :)Sep 09 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I remember a quote saying, "the public can never be allowed to decide what's in the public interest" I wish I could remember the sourceSep 09 19:40
XFaCEJust making an open-minded observationSep 09 19:40
schestowitzI've just changes the Editors pageSep 09 19:41
XFaCEthanksSep 09 19:41
schestowitzXFaCE: on the show he didn't trolSep 09 19:41
schestowitzCause he couldn't, we control the platformSep 09 19:41
*schestowitz off to doign 7 postsSep 09 19:42
amarsh04back in a few, booting in kernel 3.1.0 with libc6 2.13-20Sep 09 19:42
XFaCEschestowitz: Can you still talk on IRC?Sep 09 19:42
amarsh043.1.0-rc5 ratherSep 09 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Long week this week. Ready for the weekend. Good and productive week though.Sep 09 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] My Farm Equipment Book - The Videos: http://bit.ly/pKMRJW #amwriting #tractor #farming #antique #technology #history #MyWANASep 09 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There are still some annoying aspects of !Gnome 3. For example, using @turpial you have to right click to close the posting dialogs?Sep 09 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sorry. I meant the context dialogs in @turpial - the posts disappear by themselves, cc !Gnome 3Sep 09 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Not very !green having two comps running. I will do penance tomorrow.Sep 09 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @mo6020 Slowly getting drunk and cleaning the kitchen... Who says men can't multitask?Sep 09 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate Plan http://ur1.ca/51rbi overwhelmed by traffic today, preparing the next wave of #cablegate summariesSep 09 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate Plan http://ur1.ca/51rbi overwhelmed by traffic today, preparing the next wave of #wlfind summaries !techrightsSep 09 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The more I use @Turpial the more impressed I am. Only just realised it supports !Twitter listsSep 09 19:55
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ender_2600OLG keeps telling me guidelines are lawSep 09 19:57
ender_2600just shows you the government doesnt care whats law or notSep 09 19:57
ender_2600its the JUST US systemSep 09 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Intel denies giving up on MeeGo, but that doesn't mean much (Ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/458264/rssSep 09 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am so paranoid about breaking my DC jack (happened before expensive) that at home I run laptop on ply with a cable grip taking strain.Sep 09 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Prior Art-based and Abolishment-based Methods of Stopping Software Patents http://ur1.ca/51rer #swpats #bilski #monopoly #oin #rpxSep 09 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Prior Art-based and Abolishment-based Methods of Stopping Software Patents http://ur1.ca/51rer #uspto #reform #ffii #groklawSep 09 20:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] six years ago today, I was clean shavenSep 09 20:12
ender_2600http://techrights.org/2011/09/09/microsoft-censorship-cable/Sep 09 20:14
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ender_2600another oneSep 09 20:14
ender_2600they were complying with the lawSep 09 20:14
ender_2600if anything they should be charged for the time they didnt complySep 09 20:14
ender_2600any of us would have beenSep 09 20:15
ender_2600other than that and the cuba one, find work on cablegate RoySep 09 20:16
ender_2600fine work*Sep 09 20:16
MinceR"complying with the law" is such a convenient excuse, just like "just following orders"Sep 09 20:17
ender_2600very different thingsSep 09 20:17
ender_2600nazi's were persecuted for breaking the law and tried to get off based on just following ordersSep 09 20:18
MinceRit's a bit like the privacy policies that allow some companies to throw all your data at anything that looks like an authority figure without any legal processSep 09 20:18
MinceRnazis changed the law, actually -- they were in power, remember?Sep 09 20:18
ender_2600not reallySep 09 20:18
ender_2600they didnt have any power to control whats known as 'war crimes'Sep 09 20:19
ender_2600international crimesSep 09 20:19
ender_2600what microsoft is doing would be like jaywalking for a year, then deciding to stopSep 09 20:19
MinceRyes. censorship is just like jaywalking!Sep 09 20:20
MinceRmaybe you should stop for a minute and think about what you're sayingSep 09 20:20
MinceRif you're capable of doing so, that isSep 09 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] In case you don't already receive our monthly CC Newsletter: Open Government Policy Developments http://bit.ly/ov6B7VSep 09 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Adopts ‘Lunatic Dictator’ Approach http://ur1.ca/51rid #apple #magic #police #shiny #extortion #intimidation #android #linuxSep 09 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Apple Adopts ‘Lunatic Dictator’ Approach http://ur1.ca/51rid #japan #microsoft #acer #linux #swpats #embargo #monopolySep 09 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] someone who "doesn't know they're beaten" must be perpetually confused at the final whistle, always needing someone to explain the resultSep 09 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @mo6020: Slowly getting drunk and cleaning the kitchen... Who says men can't multitask?Sep 09 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it just my imagination? or a sign of people I follow? but my little corner of #Identica seems to have a strong #CrunchbangCrewSep 09 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange agrees to pose for Play Girl | TWF http://t.co/dhSPRzsSep 09 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] not a day goes passed without some people recommending it, echoing recommendations etc I am guilty as charged, just seems I'm far from aloneSep 09 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Importing the #USPTO Into Europe, Using the ‘EU Patent’ http://ur1.ca/51rjq #epo #eupatents #ffii !fsfSep 09 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Importing the USPTO Into Europe, Using the ‘EU Patent’ http://ur1.ca/51rjq #swpats #europe #monopoly #lobbyingSep 09 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is macterryh@tech4all.status.net with 97 dents!Sep 09 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] When I wasn't paying attention: Galaxy Global Eatery (NYC) closed (http://ur1.ca/51rlm) and Veggie Galaxy opened (http://veggiegalaxy.net).Sep 09 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] What do people think? http://i.imgur.com/WPzkx.png !gnu -- potential design for a hat or t-shirt.Sep 09 20:50
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twitterhttp://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Michael_S._HartSep 09 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Must get around to deleting Bucks Fizz from my phone.Sep 09 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 inconclusive research. Plenty of bearded men there. --Bearded guySep 09 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thistleweb New Blog Post | How To Create & Use Profiles In Google #Chrome On !Linux http://is.gd/p9znYT #fb @lstenchSep 09 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Джулиан Ассанж — о вероломстве платежных систем, предательстве соратников и новом мировом порядке | RusRep http://t.co/BqawSqfSep 09 20:57
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TechrightsBot-tr@mick_biddulph: “@schestowitz: Apple Adopts ‘Lunatic Dictator’ Approach http://t.co/ZVAjimH - emphasis on LOONATICSep 09 20:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Super Lobbyist Bill Gates Tells the Entire World What Patents to License http://ur1.ca/51rnm the bully who hides behind a sweaterSep 09 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Super Lobbyist Bill Gates Tells the Entire World What Patents to License http://ur1.ca/51rnm #patent #monopoly #gsk #gatesfoundationSep 09 20:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The curly haired kid on outnumbered is a star, have not seen it for ages.Sep 09 21:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/112247493869322240Sep 09 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr@wikileaks: Julian Assange agrees to pose for Play Girl | TWF http://t.co/dhSPRzsSep 09 21:06
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schestowitzway to spoil one's reputation and play into the "rape your daughter" stereotypeSep 09 21:07
schestowitzhttp://rusrep.ru/article/2011/09/06/front_assangeSep 09 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Huxley Prints https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5650425797098480401/5650425827366303218Sep 09 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] http://havetheyremadebacktothefutureyet.com/Sep 09 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Another phrase that makes me cringe "not an option"Sep 09 21:13
ender_260016:10 <@MinceR> yes. censorship is just like jaywalking!Sep 09 21:14
ender_2600censorship in china is a lawSep 09 21:14
ender_2600jaywalking is a lawSep 09 21:14
MinceRwhich is all the excuse you needSep 09 21:14
ender_2600breaking a law is breaking a law is breaking a lawSep 09 21:15
ender_2600its all the sameSep 09 21:15
schestowitzIn communist Russia, law is just jacywalkingSep 09 21:15
MinceRyes, legality is the only valueSep 09 21:15
MinceRforget moralitySep 09 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell @Oprah: Stop your network from promoting tar sands lies in the name of women's rights! http://bit.ly/oiYSS9 #tarsandsSep 09 21:15
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ender_2600you're asking microsoft to continue breaking the lawSep 09 21:15
MinceRyes, if it's the right thing to doSep 09 21:15
MinceRor to leave red chinaSep 09 21:16
MinceRi'm asking everyone to not support dictatorships in oppressing peopleSep 09 21:16
ender_2600so if its the right thing to do you can just ignore a law?Sep 09 21:16
MinceRyou shouldSep 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Huxley Prints https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5650425797098480401/5650425849705060178Sep 09 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Free sw projects: send me stickers c/o http://is.gd/CGC7rX for my new laptop. My old laptop and I are now media darlings http://ur1.ca/51rquSep 09 21:17
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ender_2600you realize that you'll get punishedSep 09 21:17
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ender_2600microsoft doesn't have the balls to stand up to chinaSep 09 21:17
MinceRindeedSep 09 21:18
MinceRor they just don't careSep 09 21:18
ender_2600they fear the punishmentSep 09 21:18
MinceRbecause they're completely on board with the whole dictatorship ideaSep 09 21:18
MinceRtheir behavior tends to show that, anywaySep 09 21:18
ender_2600why arent they banning porn everywhere then if censorship is their goal?Sep 09 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #IrnBru almost had to change it's recipe, but apparently got a reprieve; over new EU regulations affecting the food colouring it usesSep 09 21:18
MinceRperhaps it didn't occur to them yetSep 09 21:19
ender_2600i dont see microsoft allying itself with communistsSep 09 21:19
MinceRyou don't see what they're doing in red china, then?Sep 09 21:19
ender_2600so you're saying they are?Sep 09 21:20
MinceRyes, i'm saying soSep 09 21:20
ender_2600cause i'd love to say microsoft is in league with communismSep 09 21:20
ender_2600using the hammer to enforce its software use on the public with the government paying for itSep 09 21:21
MinceRor just willing to cooperate with dictators in oppressing people for a bit of profitSep 09 21:21
ender_2600thats the thing about communism i've noticed is that instead of a corporation or a banker trying to extract money from the population they get it much easier by using the government itself as the customerSep 09 21:22
ender_2600governments don't really price shop eitherSep 09 21:22
ender_2600they just buy what the corporation who pays the government employees tells them to buySep 09 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Journals of Record Complain About Bill Gates’ Lobbying and #AstroTurfing in the Education Arena http://ur1.ca/51rs1 #educationSep 09 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Journals of Record Complain About Bill Gates’ Lobbying and AstroTurfing in the Education Arena http://ur1.ca/51rs1 #gatesfoundationSep 09 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Love this song... !listening New Order - CeremonySep 09 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Turn it off and on again". "No, that only works with computers and nobody knows why"Sep 09 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Paws Wet [IMG] http://ur1.ca/51rsu #cuteSep 09 21:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Huxley Prints https://plus.google.com/photos/112648813199640203443/albums/5650425797098480401/5650425873740941042Sep 09 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @high Is Capitalism Doomed? http://ur1.ca/51rrr Let's hope so! :) !anticapitalismSep 09 21:30
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schestowitz_Goblin: we'll need to agree on times and allSep 09 21:32
_GoblinyepSep 09 21:32
_Goblin6pm at Kings X.?Sep 09 21:32
_Goblinthat sounds a little wrongSep 09 21:32
_Goblin.....Sep 09 21:32
schestowitzmaybe 7pmSep 09 21:33
_Goblinok npSep 09 21:33
schestowitzIIRC, it's about 10 min walk from EustonSep 09 21:33
_GoblinIm away until Sunday after tonight.......I may be online (depending on connection) just so you know.....Sep 09 21:33
schestowitzMaybe a little moreSep 09 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I'm really looking forward to these vehicles from @manticgames -- http://is.gd/na10Up #warpathSep 09 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good Assange article about where to for WikiLeaks, the state of the world, payments systems, Russia & more http://t.co/6bS7ZlESep 09 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Hey @discmakers you have templates in virtually every format except SVG. Show some love for #Inkscape users! :)Sep 09 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My 8 GB netbook needs a lot of weeding.Sep 09 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I bet Samuel L Jackson can be quite a difficult character.Sep 09 21:33
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schestowitztel # ending with 378?Sep 09 21:35
schestowitzI'm looking at old e-mails fto paste the details into the pdaSep 09 21:35
_GoblinyepSep 09 21:37
_Goblinthats the oneSep 09 21:37
_Goblinagain....on sat sun the connection will be possibly an issue....Im out in the sticks.Sep 09 21:37
ender_2600Lockheed martin purchased a working quantum computer from a vancouver companySep 09 21:37
_Goblinbut feel free to call....Sep 09 21:37
_GoblinI'll ring you back if I cant get a signalSep 09 21:37
schestowitzMicrosoft de Icaza is trying to defend Microsot: Sep 09 21:38
schestowitzbethere.co.uk).Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:32] <schestowitz> _Goblin: we'll need to agree on times and allSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:32] <_Goblin> yepSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:32] <_Goblin> 6pm at Kings X.?Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:32] <_Goblin> that sounds a little wrongSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:32] <_Goblin> .....Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] <schestowitz> maybe 7pmSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] <_Goblin> ok npSep 09 21:38
ender_2600http://www.dwavesys.com/en/pressreleases.htmlSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] <schestowitz> IIRC, it's about 10 min walk from EustonSep 09 21:38
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] <_Goblin> Im away until Sunday after tonight.......I may be online (depending on connection) just so you know.....Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] <schestowitz> Maybe a little moreSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [mattl/@mattl] I'm really looking forward to these vehicles from @manticgames -- http://is.gd/na10Up #warpathSep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good Assange article about where to for WikiLeaks, the state of the world, payments systems, Russia & more http://t.co/6bS7ZlESep 09 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Warpath Vehicles are here! .::. Size~: 21.13 KBSep 09 21:38
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schestowitz[21:33] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [mattl/@mattl] Hey @discmakers you have templates in virtually every format except SVG. Show some love for #Inkscape users! :)Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [satipera/@satipera] My 8 GB netbook needs a lot of weeding.Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:33] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [satipera/@satipera] I bet Samuel L Jackson can be quite a difficult character.Sep 09 21:38
schestowitz[21:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Warpath Vehicles are here! .::. Size~: 21.13 KBSep 09 21:39
schestowitz[21:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> @: Sep 09 21:39
schestowitz[21:35] <schestowitz> tel # ending with 378?Sep 09 21:39
schestowitz[21:35] <schestowitz> I'm looking at old e-mails fto paste the details into the pdaSep 09 21:39
schestowitzoopsSep 09 21:39
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/migueldeicazaSep 09 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Miguel de Icaza (@migueldeicaza) on Twitter .::. Size~: 57.2 KBSep 09 21:39
schestowitzsee the top oneSep 09 21:39
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jgbarah/statuses/112250764050706432Sep 09 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr@jgbarah: @migueldeicaza @glynmoody Well, maybe. But I actually read the whole cable and it seemed exactly like the title to me http://t.co/SIvXwfxSep 09 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 21:39
schestowitzPeople do defned TRSep 09 21:39
schestowitzdeicaza has run out of ideasSep 09 21:39
schestowitz_Goblin: i'll call monday tooSep 09 21:39
schestowitzshould not be an issueSep 09 21:39
ender_2600http://www.dwavesys.com/en/pressreleases.htmlSep 09 21:40
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 21:40
schestowitzjust to coordiate times and allSep 09 21:40
schestowitzI may be thre earlierSep 09 21:40
ender_2600http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/lockheed-martin-buying-one-d-waves-brand-new-quantum-computersSep 09 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lockheed Martin is Buying One of D-Wave's Brand New Quantum Computers | Popular Science .::. Size~: 103.88 KBSep 09 21:40
ender_2600http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v473/n7346/full/nature10012.htmlSep 09 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quantum annealing with manufactured spins :  Nature :  Nature Publishing Group .::. Size~: 94.27 KBSep 09 21:41
ender_2600Lockheed Martin: all your brute forcable encryption are belong to usSep 09 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Inkscape can open Corel Draw files. Now I just need some bean-people for this presentation to corporate.Sep 09 21:42
ender_2600Inkscape can open Corel Draw files.Sep 09 21:42
ender_2600wickedSep 09 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fallout: New Vegas in hardcore mode and on the hardest setting is hard. #gamesSep 09 21:43
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schestowitzJust FYISep 09 21:47
schestowitzWhenever the trolls come to IRCSep 09 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best New Feature of Ubuntu Oneric - GNOME Shell http://ur1.ca/51rw7 #gnome #ubuntu #gnu #linuxSep 09 21:47
schestowitzThey bairSep 09 21:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Best New Feature of Ubuntu Oneric - GNOME Shell | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 45.28 KBSep 09 21:47
schestowitzWhether it's the Microsoft internSep 09 21:47
schestowitzManishSep 09 21:47
schestowitzOr the Linsux peopleSep 09 21:47
schestowitzor the mactrollSep 09 21:47
schestowitzAnd he's doing it again todaySep 09 21:47
schestowitzSo don't feed them with ammo, it's what they come here for -- to manufacture 'dirt'Sep 09 21:48
schestowitzAnd they try to piggyback this site to grab attention for themselvesSep 09 21:48
schestowitzIt's a well known tactics, people in YoiuTube do that tooSep 09 21:48
schestowitzLeeching off of other people who have more subscribersSep 09 21:48
schestowitzBest to do it ignore the trolls, let them run drySep 09 21:48
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sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz hiSep 09 21:49
ender_260017:38 < schestowitz> And he's doing it again todaySep 09 21:50
ender_2600who?Sep 09 21:50
schestowitzthe mactrollSep 09 21:50
ender_2600mac asay ?Sep 09 21:51
schestowitzthe one who runs a site dedicated to smearing meSep 09 21:51
schestowitzwith my name in the top graphic of each pageSep 09 21:51
schestowitzdon't feed themSep 09 21:51
schestowitzattention-hungry liarsSep 09 21:51
ender_2600calling him a mac troll isn't accurateSep 09 21:51
schestowitzwe have real issues to talk about, they are just trying to turn it into a smear campaign to avoid us discussing real issuesSep 09 21:51
schestowitzender_2600: he also occupies himself with MS waresSep 09 21:52
_Goblin"So don't feed them with ammo, it's what they come here for -- to manufacture 'dirt'" - I seem to recall me advising you on comment that are taken out of context on IRC... ;)  ...In respect of trolls here....I can only recall one recently....I didn't engage, I kicked him out the channel....Sep 09 21:52
schestowitzBecause there are no jobs in mac worlsSep 09 21:52
schestowitz_Goblin: they drain everyone's timeSep 09 21:52
schestowitzThat's why people kick them out, I don't even ask for itSep 09 21:52
ender_2600I've read what hes had to say and he seemed to me to be very balancedSep 09 21:52
schestowitzI think kicking them out gives them ammo tooSep 09 21:52
ender_2600I don't agree with your judgement of himSep 09 21:52
schestowitzLater they start whining, playing victimsSep 09 21:52
schestowitzBest is to ignore themSep 09 21:53
schestowitzand they try to act poluite when playing "victim"Sep 09 21:53
schestowitzender_2600: you don't know himSep 09 21:53
schestowitzHe pretendsSep 09 21:53
schestowitzfor people like you who don't have enough knowledgeSep 09 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Interesting fact. There are almost 2x as many Palestinians as Israelis. !Palestine.Sep 09 21:53
schestowitzHre is hated even by Apple newsgroups in USENETSep 09 21:54
schestowitzhe's a pest thereSep 09 21:54
schestowitztroll and not really denying it, eitherSep 09 21:54
schestowitzAnyay, back to the topicSep 09 21:54
schestowitzSee what happens? We lose focus :-)Sep 09 21:54
schestowitzI was about to post some Linux linksSep 09 21:54
schestowitzGNOME shell is getting a lot betterSep 09 21:54
schestowitzgnome 3.2.x is comign soon too, with Linux 3.1Sep 09 21:54
ender_2600KDE 5 will destroy anything from gnomeSep 09 21:55
_GoblinlolSep 09 21:58
_Goblinfor people who like kde I am sure it willSep 09 21:58
_GoblinI'm off back to Xfce and it won't destroy that....Sep 09 21:58
_GoblinI'll check KDE out though when I want a Vistaesque DE with a "k" before all its apps.Sep 09 21:59
ender_2600or you can stick with the not-so-lightweight-xfceSep 09 22:00
ender_2600with the aging gtk crapSep 09 22:00
ender_2600no standards for any gnome appsSep 09 22:01
ender_2600btw, vista ripped off kdeSep 09 22:01
_GoblinIm sure it did....Im just giving a flaming response to the destroy comment!!Sep 09 22:02
schestowitzender_2600: seigo told me there's no kde 5Sep 09 22:02
schestowitzjust kde framework 5 or somethingSep 09 22:02
_Goblinno standards ? I call that Diversity.Sep 09 22:02
schestowitzsome journos misinterpreted thisSep 09 22:02
schestowitzender_2600: vista 8 also rips off kde4Sep 09 22:02
schestowitze.g. in the progress bars that are vcombinedSep 09 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] New temporary git repo for Linux security subsystem development: git://selinuxproject.org/~jmorris/linux-securitySep 09 22:03
_Goblinactually.....Gnome Shell rips off the Startrek Enterprises console UISep 09 22:04
_Goblinand in doing so..... Boldly blows.Sep 09 22:04
ender_260017:52 < schestowitz> just kde framework 5 or somethingSep 09 22:08
ender_2600yeah but there will be stuff based on itSep 09 22:08
ender_2600you could call the KDE 5 apps (I think)Sep 09 22:08
MinceRthey'll think of a nameSep 09 22:09
MinceRit will contain the words "KDE" and "Plasma"Sep 09 22:09
ender_2600KDE Plasma Desktop for Framework 5Sep 09 22:09
ender_2600I like Plasma NetbookSep 09 22:10
MinceRi don't -- at least when i tried it i couldn't locate any cashews so i couldn't change anythingSep 09 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The bloody dog is on anxiety medication?Sep 09 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] The crazier you get as a #Jain, the less we have to worry about you. #SamHarris !q http://ur1.ca/51rv6 #funny #Islam #religion #secularSep 09 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I take that back.Sep 09 22:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sam Harris: Islam Is Not a Religion of Peace       - YouTube .::. Size~: 112.56 KBSep 09 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Picked up tickets to see Peter Hook @salfordrules doing Joy Division's Closer from start to finish in Boston. That's going to be surreal.Sep 09 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FSF's Star Turn in the Android FUDathon (LinuxInsider) http://lwn.net/Articles/458291/rssSep 09 22:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSF's Star Turn in the Android FUDathon (LinuxInsider) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.52 KBSep 09 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: Your *face* is a JVMSep 09 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] More half baked pub politics from the British PM.Sep 09 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google ought to run a Mojave-like experiment. Let Mac cultists use a 'prototype' with fruity logo, then survey, then tell them it's #AndroidSep 09 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Quick Look at #Mandriva 2011 http://ur1.ca/51s4p "Mandriva 2011 is a solid release overall" #gnu #linuxSep 09 22:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Quick Look at Mandriva 2011: Introduction - Techgage .::. Size~: 22.86 KBSep 09 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[solarboy2me/@solarboy2me] @boycottnovell nice solar power panels http://solarpowerr.comSep 09 22:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sun solar collectors, solar power panels .::. Size~: 13.63 KBSep 09 22:22
schestowitz@schestowitz You mischief maker you.Sep 09 22:23
schestowitz:-)Sep 09 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People behind Debian: Enrico Zini, member of the New Maintainer Frontdesk http://ur1.ca/51s53 !debian #gnu #linuxSep 09 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People behind Debian: Enrico Zini, member of the New Maintainer Frontdesk .::. Size~: 62.23 KBSep 09 22:24
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DaemonFCxubuntu's switch to lightdm brings the following enhancementsSep 09 22:26
DaemonFC1. It is currently unthemed and very uglySep 09 22:27
DaemonFC2. Automatic log in doesn't workSep 09 22:27
DaemonFC3. If your monitor happens to suspend before you log in, it will not resumeSep 09 22:27
ender_2600lolSep 09 22:27
DaemonFCbut probably ~1 MB was saved on the LiveCD as a resultSep 09 22:27
ender_2600is there a lubuntu ?Sep 09 22:27
ender_2600i'd use lxde over xfceSep 09 22:28
DaemonFCThere's a Lubuntu but it's not official yet unles you're using an 11.10 daily buildSep 09 22:28
DaemonFCfrom the reports I've seen, it will run with half the resources that XFCE takesSep 09 22:28
ender_2600wait till I have EntanglementOS outSep 09 22:29
DaemonFCXFCE "feels" faster than the others but it seems to not save you any resourcesSep 09 22:29
DaemonFCin fact, I didn't see much of a resource usage change from KDESep 09 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Germany may be the best run country in the EU but they do not play Cricket or Rugby. Yes, they have it right.Sep 09 22:30
ender_2600yes I knowSep 09 22:30
ender_2600thats why I made the commentSep 09 22:31
ender_2600earlier today I said the not-so-lightweight xfceSep 09 22:31
DaemonFCI don't get why XFCE existsSep 09 22:31
DaemonFCall the bloat with half the features?Sep 09 22:31
twitterlwdm does not use xscreensaver?Sep 09 22:31
ender_2600xfce used to be lightweightSep 09 22:32
DaemonFClwdm?Sep 09 22:32
schestowitzis Germany best run or just the largest economy?Sep 09 22:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83256453Sep 09 22:33
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 21:22:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Mandriva in their early days offered paid options. I could never get on with it.Sep 09 22:33
schestowitzMandriva or Mandrake?Sep 09 22:34
DaemonFCMandrakeSep 09 22:34
DaemonFCthe PowerPack just included some additional softwareSep 09 22:34
DaemonFCI've bought it beforeSep 09 22:35
DaemonFCwhen I didn't have broadbandSep 09 22:35
twitterway to look like a whore ->  Julian Assange agrees to pose for Play GirlSep 09 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @threethirty: In the beginning $foo created $bar #wellthatstheendofthatSep 09 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks Good Assange article about where to for WikiLeaks, the state of the world, payments systems, Russia & more http://t.co/6bS7ZlESep 09 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 22:35
DaemonFCnothing wrong with whoresSep 09 22:35
DaemonFCthey provide a service, and are compensatedSep 09 22:35
ender_2600hes been a whore for a whileSep 09 22:36
MinceRif bloat bothers you, why not use Tiny Core?Sep 09 22:36
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83257030Sep 09 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 21:33:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I certainly hope mandriva...Sep 09 22:36
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm just toying around in LiveCDs on this systemSep 09 22:36
twitterxscreensaver does just fine with suspend/resume, any window manager can use itSep 09 22:36
schestowitzwhore is a daemonisation termSep 09 22:36
schestowitzlike stuf for maleSep 09 22:36
schestowitz*studSep 09 22:36
DaemonFCtrying to get a feel for the best choice for a budget laptop from 2004Sep 09 22:36
schestowitztwitter: agreed re AssangeSep 09 22:37
MinceRi thought "stud" was positiveSep 09 22:37
schestowitzI replies to him aboiut itSep 09 22:37
twitterit's a term for doing something that you don't really like for moneySep 09 22:37
schestowitzhe plays into the sereotypeSep 09 22:37
DaemonFCWhat MinceR saidSep 09 22:37
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 22:37
schestowitzAfter he refused to be seen clicking on keyboard for CBS to portray him as a crackerSep 09 22:37
schestowitzMinceR: yes, exactlySep 09 22:37
twitterselling your body part time is one step above full time slaverySep 09 22:37
schestowitzbut our language makes it bad for girls to sleep aroundSep 09 22:38
schestowitzand good for guysSep 09 22:38
DaemonFCAt least Wikileaks is fairly unbiased for nowSep 09 22:38
DaemonFCthey'd be easier to criticize if they clearly had an anti-US agendaSep 09 22:38
schestowitzwhich is kind of ironic actuallySep 09 22:38
twittermmmy wartsSep 09 22:38
schestowitzThis limits the # of girl a guy can get laid with TBHSep 09 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk had* multitasking heavily to catch up on day's news(eg boingboing...)Sep 09 22:38
DaemonFCschestowitz: Ask a cultural anthropologist how natural monogamy is. :)Sep 09 22:39
twitterI think herpes is up to 50% of the population now. Sep 09 22:39
schestowitztwitter: I reckon it might be just an interview for playgirlSep 09 22:39
schestowitzHe needs money for attorney feesSep 09 22:39
schestowitzHe gets 1.5 million for a bookSep 09 22:39
ender_2600he doesnt need moneySep 09 22:40
schestowitztwitter: what about mono?Sep 09 22:40
ender_2600they've collected millionsSep 09 22:40
DaemonFCmost of the reason for polygamy being seen as a taboo is religion, although they do have their fringe elements which use it to increase cultist membership fasterSep 09 22:40
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 22:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: by religious standards, you oughtn'y have sex at allSep 09 22:41
schestowitzyou should be stonedSep 09 22:41
twitterjudeo-christian religious standards, perhaps Sep 09 22:41
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83257046Sep 09 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 21:33:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It was crossing from Mandrake to Mandriva.Sep 09 22:41
schestowitzAhaSep 09 22:41
DaemonFCI think it's fairly unenlightened to judge a person based entirely on who or how many people they are having sex with Sep 09 22:41
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83257139Sep 09 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 21:35:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They are the largest for a reason. Whether it is for the common good is another matter.Sep 09 22:41
DaemonFCthe only reasoning behind that line of thinking is from religionSep 09 22:41
schestowitzDiligence?Sep 09 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Yes, when I was your age I would have spent the time reading, writing, and watching TV; you can do same online, more interactionSep 09 22:42
twitterbefore anti-biotics and reliable birth control there were one or two good reasons people looked down on promiscuity Sep 09 22:43
twittersome people, that is.  Sep 09 22:43
DaemonFC[17:38] <twitter> I think herpes is up to 50% of the population now. Sep 09 22:43
DaemonFCmore than thatSep 09 22:43
twitterlovelySep 09 22:43
DaemonFCdepends on which type you refer toSep 09 22:43
twitterUS general Sep 09 22:43
DaemonFCover 90% of the US adult population has type 1Sep 09 22:43
schestowitztwitter: and contraception is still frowned upon by religionsSep 09 22:43
twitteryeee ha!Sep 09 22:43
DaemonFCand just over a quarter of them have type 2Sep 09 22:43
DaemonFCsexually transmitted diseases and children are the only potential drawbacks of sexSep 09 22:44
schestowitzwhats the diff?Sep 09 22:44
DaemonFCobviously the second one doesn't concern meSep 09 22:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: herpes 2 is genital herpesSep 09 22:44
DaemonFCherpes 1 mainly causes cold sores on the mouthSep 09 22:44
DaemonFCcan be spread by kissing or sharing a drinking containerSep 09 22:44
schestowitzthe way it's sold these days...Sep 09 22:45
schestowitzsmall 330ml containersSep 09 22:45
DaemonFCmost people don't even know they have itSep 09 22:45
DaemonFCit's little more than a nuisanceSep 09 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I think article used television stats & studies to "prove" internet harmful. Poppycock: tv=passive internet=active #notthesamethingSep 09 22:45
DaemonFCbut entirely asymptomatic in many casesSep 09 22:45
DaemonFCalso, as the immune system learns to keep it suppressed, it can be kept dormant for many yearsSep 09 22:46
schestowitzubuntu has monoSep 09 22:46
twitterillegitimate children and cookoos don't bother you?  DaemonFC: obviously the second one doesn't concern meSep 09 22:46
DaemonFCI don't think anything I've done can cause childrenSep 09 22:46
schestowitztwitter: he's gaySep 09 22:46
twittermono did not spread like some people hoped it would Sep 09 22:46
schestowitzhoped?Sep 09 22:46
schestowitzto sell drugs?Sep 09 22:47
twitterMicrosoftSep 09 22:47
schestowitzohSep 09 22:47
schestowitzOopsSep 09 22:47
schestowitzLOLSep 09 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Though this may be of interest to you ... and your fast internet :P > http://nd.gd/whSep 09 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: To Five Smashing Years… And A Free Anniversary eBook Treat! - Smashing Magazine .::. Size~: 455.22 KBSep 09 22:47
twitterDaemonFC should hope to have quit neighbors.Sep 09 22:47
twitterquiet/quitSep 09 22:47
DaemonFCI don't care what she does if I don't have to listen to itSep 09 22:47
twitterhe heSep 09 22:48
DaemonFCshe's only 46, but thanks to smoking and drinking, those are rent a car milesSep 09 22:48
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 22:48
DaemonFCshe looks like she's in her 60sSep 09 22:48
twittermarried?Sep 09 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk they recycle this type of FUD article for every new technology http://tinyurl.com/3ufckbgSep 09 22:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Surfing the web is turning our brains to mush' | Information, Gadgets, Mobile Phones News & Reviews | News.com.au .::. Size~: 84.3 KBSep 09 22:49
DaemonFCshe used to beSep 09 22:49
schestowitzwith childrenSep 09 22:49
schestowitzDawn?Sep 09 22:49
DaemonFCapparently her ex husband grew weedSep 09 22:49
DaemonFCand was selling it to the copsSep 09 22:49
DaemonFCfor personal use :)Sep 09 22:49
twitterof courseSep 09 22:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: yes, DawnSep 09 22:49
schestowitzBackshaverSep 09 22:49
twitterpoor thingSep 09 22:49
twitterDawn Backshaver?  what a nameSep 09 22:49
schestowitzLOL no...Sep 09 22:50
schestowitzLong story..Sep 09 22:50
schestowitzDon't askSep 09 22:50
schestowitzI think DaemonFC has a crush on herSep 09 22:50
schestowitzHe keeps bringing her up in this channelSep 09 22:50
DaemonFCshe has what seems to be a histrionic personality disorder Sep 09 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Most popular this week: Open source is illegal? | http://red.ht/qRw2ik (4,000 page views this week)Sep 09 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://zotzbro.blogspot.com/2011/09/isp-suggestion.htmlSep 09 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source is illegal? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 56.78 KBSep 09 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: zotz: ISP Suggestion .::. Size~: 44.52 KBSep 09 22:50
DaemonFCshe does anything to make herself the center of attention Sep 09 22:50
DaemonFCshe claimed the neighbor raped her after she got into his bath tub to shave his backSep 09 22:51
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 22:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's like you like in a zoo cageSep 09 22:51
schestowitzDid she also take out fleas?Sep 09 22:52
DaemonFCJabba got out one day and made it into her bedroomSep 09 22:52
DaemonFCshe leaves her door open a lotSep 09 22:52
schestowitzAsk her to shave your catSep 09 22:52
schestowitzJabbaSep 09 22:52
schestowitzthe big pussySep 09 22:52
schestowitzGot a photo of Jabba?Sep 09 22:52
*schestowitz thinks he's looking for oneSep 09 22:53
twitterhttp://www.slashfilm.com/lol-jabba-the-hut-cat/Sep 09 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LOL: Jabba the Hut Cat | /Film .::. Size~: 39.68 KBSep 09 22:54
DaemonFChttp://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7863/picture2za.pngSep 09 22:54
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeSep 09 22:54
MinceRi don't think cats need to be shavedSep 09 22:54
twitterneither did the catSep 09 22:54
DaemonFCthey probably don't think they do eitherSep 09 22:54
twitternice catSep 09 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] This is a great one RT @lf_training: Looking for free crash course on KVM? Start here, w/ Christoph Hellwig's intro: http://bit.ly/orCJczSep 09 22:55
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 22:55
DaemonFCender_2600: Give Lubuntu time, once they're official I'm sure they'll tack on indicator crap and broken display managersSep 09 22:56
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dick Cheney master torturer on the telly instead of in gaol. How would he be faring if he came from #Libya.Sep 09 22:57
schestowitz[sfw] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuMQBUuU2tgSep 09 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TV reporter says ''nice pussy''       - YouTube .::. Size~: 84.96 KBSep 09 22:58
schestowitz[22:55] <twitter> nice catSep 09 22:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: your landlord likes the way Dawn handles that razor.. ewww..Sep 09 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] does anyone have a .img file(preferably small, like 100 mb) that has grub installed onto it? doing it myself is a painSep 09 22:58
schestowitzIt's interesting how words lose their meaningSep 09 22:59
schestowitzAnd people need to catch upSep 09 22:59
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIfcKy-VcXoSep 09 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Harry Roy & His Orchestra "My Girl's Pussy" (1931)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.97 KBSep 09 22:59
schestowitzAnother one is "gay"Sep 09 22:59
schestowitzAnd "top man"Sep 09 22:59
schestowitzI mistakenly used that phrase some months ago not realising the possible new connotationSep 09 23:00
schestowitzThese awkward words are especially bad for people who talk liveSep 09 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Welcome to #Privacy Club. You cannot find Privacy Club on the Internet. https://eff.org/r.B6E (via @io9)Sep 09 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @osamak: If you didn't notice, @rms has updated his "Don't use Facebook" section on http://stallman.org/ to also include Google+Sep 09 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Wow. Didn't take long after they killed the Arborway line for #mbta to finally update 1987 maps of the Orange Line. Forest Hills next?Sep 09 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @zotz I prefer "no, don't!"Sep 09 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, technology is not going to destroy your privacy in the future .::. Size~: 141.92 KBSep 09 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman's Personal Page .::. Size~: 79.68 KBSep 09 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk and when my Dad was a kid, kids were going to rot their brains listening to crap like "Little Orphan Annie" or "The Shadow"Sep 09 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk on the radio :)Sep 09 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What do #Bartz and #Elop have in common? Both think that their name is Steve. #Yahoo #Sellout #Mole #NokiaSep 09 23:03
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83257796Sep 09 23:04
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 21:47:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Diligence? That is what people do when they are being observed. There are rare exceptions.Sep 09 23:04
schestowitzMaybe natural resources help Germany as well, but either way, population density matters.Sep 09 23:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://ur1.ca/51rsuSep 09 23:05
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 09 23:05
twitterut oh, what does "top man" mean in the gutter now?Sep 09 23:07
twitterI'll bet it does not involve employment, title or gyroscopic forces Sep 09 23:07
DaemonFCthe giver :)Sep 09 23:07
DaemonFCto reference goatse terminology Sep 09 23:08
MinceRlolSep 09 23:08
MinceRi like the gyroscopic oneSep 09 23:08
twitterseems to be a lot of definitions on urban dictionary, the top ones dealing with a line of clothes Sep 09 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla's Do Not Track Guide Positions Privacy as Key Tech Differentiator http://ur1.ca/51san another distinguished is company structureSep 09 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Opera could potentially be as successful as Mozilla Firefox (predating it with a great browser), but it's proprietary, used to shovel ads/$$Sep 09 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla's Do Not Track Guide Positions Privacy as Key Tech Differentiator .::. Size~: 42.03 KBSep 09 23:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: Opera is not adwareSep 09 23:09
DaemonFCand hasn't been for a long timeSep 09 23:09
DaemonFCit is proprietary freewareSep 09 23:09
DaemonFCI used to pay to register Opera just because the alternatives were pretty bad for a whileSep 09 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Multi million pound football teams. Doctors, dietitians, physiotherapists, agents, publicists, image rights, share holders. #footballmadnessSep 09 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Welcome to #Privacy Club. You cannot find Privacy Club on the Internet. https://eff.org/r.B6E (via @io9)Sep 09 23:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, technology is not going to destroy your privacy in the future .::. Size~: 140.29 KBSep 09 23:10
DaemonFCthere was a huge gap between Netscape Communicator being too ancient to deal with and Mozilla Suite becoming stable enough to useSep 09 23:10
DaemonFCwhat else was there? Internet Explorer :)Sep 09 23:11
DaemonFCgiven the situation, Opera was the most pragmatic choiceSep 09 23:11
DaemonFCMozilla was unusable until the 0.8.x seriesSep 09 23:11
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, but back in 2004Sep 09 23:11
DaemonFCunless you liked crashing, memory leaks, and random profile destructionSep 09 23:12
schestowitz:-)Sep 09 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "privacy in your society is distributed unevenly" ~ !Privacy Club https://eff.org/r.B6ESep 09 23:12
schestowitzDidn't happen to meSep 09 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, technology is not going to destroy your privacy in the future .::. Size~: 140.29 KBSep 09 23:12
schestowitzI used early firfefox with half a gig of ramSep 09 23:12
schestowitzit handles it okSep 09 23:12
schestowitzbut the web was less bloated back then, as wellSep 09 23:12
DaemonFCFirefox memory handling has gone from good to bad to good to badSep 09 23:12
DaemonFCdepending on which versionSep 09 23:12
DaemonFCFirefox 2 was terribleSep 09 23:13
schestowitzNow eadh site tends to think it's your applicationSep 09 23:13
DaemonFCsticking on 1.5.x was the right thing to do in that caseSep 09 23:13
schestowitznaa..Sep 09 23:13
schestowitzI used them all, 3.5/6 is OKSep 09 23:13
schestowitzishSep 09 23:13
schestowitzit's afterwards that plugins start acting upSep 09 23:13
DaemonFCI have version 7Sep 09 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Virtualization Path Less Traveled: Salsa Labs chooses Red hat RHEV over VMware (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/pYaAX7Sep 09 23:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Virtualization Path Less Traveled | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 76.12 KBSep 09 23:14
DaemonFCwhich could be described easily as Firefox 4.3Sep 09 23:14
twitterI used Mozilla 1.0 with Debian and thought it was great. Sep 09 23:14
schestowitzI have version 60000 (BLAG!)Sep 09 23:14
twitterthen came the KonquerorSep 09 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Organizes Workshop on the Future of Offline Web Applications http://ow.ly/1eCAw5Sep 09 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Kindle user on the bus, instead of hitting everyone with your bag, sit down and read.Sep 09 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk there's a grub only Ingalls for hurd, try it.Sep 09 23:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C News Archive: 2011        W3C .::. Size~: 183.43 KBSep 09 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google will launch #Android Ice Cream Sandwich in October or November http://ur1.ca/51sccSep 09 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @mattl Kindle user on the bus, instead of hitting everyone with your bag, sit down and read.Sep 09 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google will launch android ice cream sandwich in october or november- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 59 KBSep 09 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk Google grub.imgSep 09 23:20
MinceRbut is it made from real androids?Sep 09 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Heading to @thehavenjp #irnbruSep 09 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guardian doesn't want you to know that Merrill Lynch and Estee Lauder were on the Arab Legue boycott list http://t.co/AALwZU3Sep 09 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Fraud As a Business Model" http://ur1.ca/51scw very profitable, but risky, unless one has cronies inside the SEC and govt.Sep 09 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Janet Tavakoli: "Fraud As a Business Model" .::. Size~: 283.77 KBSep 09 23:22
abushcrafterWhats the status of the Speex encode of a podcast?Sep 09 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs: More Than A Travesty Of A Mockery Of A Sham http://ur1.ca/51sd1 they have too much power inside the government, #tooBigToJailSep 09 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Guardian doesn't want you to know that Merrill Lynch and Estee Lauder were on the Arab Legue boycott list http://t.co/AALwZU3Sep 09 23:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs: More Than A Travesty Of A Mockery Of A Sham - Forbes .::. Size~: 106.48 KBSep 09 23:24
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 23:24
schestowitzabushcrafter: it would take a lot of time and disk apceSep 09 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @osamak: If you didn't notice, @rms has updated his "Don't use Facebook" section on http://stallman.org/ to also include Google+ << +1Sep 09 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @eff: Welcome to #Privacy Club. You cannot find Privacy Club on the Internet. https://eff.org/r.B6E (via @io9)Sep 09 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New interview of Julian Assange by Sddeutsche Zeitung. Translated by @HomoCarnula. http://t.co/sDOgf4eSep 09 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @kdebrasil KDE 4.8 Release Schedule: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.8_Release_Schedule !kdeSep 09 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman's Personal Page .::. Size~: 79.68 KBSep 09 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, technology is not going to destroy your privacy in the future .::. Size~: 140.29 KBSep 09 23:27
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 23:27
schestowitzdo you want to encode it for us?Sep 09 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schedules/KDE4/4.8 Release Schedule - KDE TechBase .::. Size~: 38.24 KBSep 09 23:27
schestowitzMinceR: just their brains and spleen :/Sep 09 23:27
schestowitz100% natural androidSep 09 23:28
abushcrafterI would love to.Sep 09 23:28
schestowitzjust dont' say /which parts/Sep 09 23:28
schestowitzabushcrafter: the mp3 is the least lossy one to work with as baselineSep 09 23:28
MinceRschestowitz: yum yumSep 09 23:28
DaemonFCthere's something Kubuntu gets exactly rightSep 09 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The British Ministry of War has a policy called K.A.P.E. Keep the Armed Forces in the Public Eye. #sport #wimbledon #redarrows etc #violenceSep 09 23:28
schestowitzand we have a qebm version based on itSep 09 23:29
schestowitzIt's on youtubeSep 09 23:29
DaemonFCtheir backports ppa is well maintained Sep 09 23:29
schestowitzMinceR: it's rich in diodes... 30 grams per 100 gram servingSep 09 23:29
MinceRdelicious SiO2Sep 09 23:29
DaemonFCI noticed Fedora's redhat-kde repo is usually broken in some waySep 09 23:29
DaemonFCeven with "stable" backports"Sep 09 23:29
DaemonFCand only one person has commit access to the whole thingSep 09 23:30
DaemonFCender_2600: I'm burning a Lubuntu daily disc to play around withSep 09 23:31
DaemonFCwondering if it's a worthy Xubuntu replacement for the laptop that time forgot :)Sep 09 23:31
DaemonFCwhen I started using XFCE it did provide some resource savingsSep 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 New interview of Julian Assange by Sddeutsche Zeitung. Translated by @HomoCarnula. http://t.co/sDOgf4eSep 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wikileaks2 thanks... the auto translation was pretty painful to battle through :)Sep 09 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] You can donate to the KKK, buy torture tools, all sorts of porn, but you can't support Wikileaks with a Visa card http://t.co/fWtDMXGSep 09 23:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 23:32
DaemonFCand now you may as well lob GNOME 3 on there and call it a daySep 09 23:32
DaemonFCbrb :)Sep 09 23:32
schestowitzabushcrafter: I'v e just checked in audacitySep 09 23:32
*DaemonFC has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Sep 09 23:32
schestowitzI can't find speex options anywhereSep 09 23:32
*schestowitz has gnome on the second pcSep 09 23:33
schestowitzoh, tyan has goneSep 09 23:33
schestowitz*ranSep 09 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @marxistvegan The real winners in Obama's Speech... corporations http://redd.it/kajcw http://b1t.it/AQt // cc @neptune78Sep 09 23:34
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Sep 09 23:34
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 23:34
abushcrafterschestowitz: Try the custom ffmpeg export optionSep 09 23:34
schestowitzI didSep 09 23:35
schestowitzBut then it asks me to mess about with prefsSep 09 23:35
abushcrafterokSep 09 23:35
schestowitzwhich browser version support speex?Sep 09 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 You can donate to the KKK, buy torture tools, all sorts of porn, but you can't support Wikileaks with a Visa card http:// ...Sep 09 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Goldman Sachs: More Than A Travesty Of A Mockery Of A Sham http://ur1.ca/51sd1 they have too much power inside the gover ...Sep 09 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz "Fraud As a Business Model" http://ur1.ca/51scw very profitable, but risky, unless one has cronies inside the SEC and govt.Sep 09 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: Guardian doesn't want you to know that Merrill Lynch and Estee Lauder were on the Arab Legue boycott list ...Sep 09 23:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs: More Than A Travesty Of A Mockery Of A Sham - Forbes .::. Size~: 106.48 KBSep 09 23:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Janet Tavakoli: "Fraud As a Business Model" .::. Size~: 284.11 KBSep 09 23:35
abushcrafterthen export wav and encode with "speexenc". I can give the the prams to useSep 09 23:36
schestowitzThe mobbyists are trying to pressure partners to leave Google http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Google-internal-document-revealed/?kc=rssSep 09 23:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did Google favor Motorola and Verizon? - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.4 KBSep 09 23:37
schestowitzabushcrafter: but who would use it?Sep 09 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @osamak: If you didn't notice, @rms has updated his "Don't use Facebook" section on http://stallman.org/ to also inclu ...Sep 09 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Guantanamo... 10 years of NATO political prisoners. #landofthefreeSep 09 23:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman's Personal Page .::. Size~: 79.68 KBSep 09 23:37
schestowitzI don't even know what browsers support itSep 09 23:37
schestowitzlinux folks use oggSep 09 23:37
schestowitzmost media players don't support it though, so we made mp3 as wellSep 09 23:37
schestowitzspeex is a niche for podcasts afaikSep 09 23:37
abushcrafterhang on. me get dataSep 09 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Guantanamo... 10 years of NATO political prisoners. #landofthefreeSep 09 23:39
abushcrafterThis is interesting: Adobe Flash Player supports Speex starting with Flash Player 10.0.12.36, released in October 2008.[17] Because of some bugs in Flash Player, the first recommended version for Speex support is 10.0.22.87 and later. Speex in Flash Player can be used for both kind of communication, through Flash Media Server or P2P. Speex can be decoded or converted to any format unlike Nellymoser audio, which was the only speech format in previousSep 09 23:39
schestowitzunusual for phoornix to cover this type of stuff http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTg5MQSep 09 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Proposed: A Monthly Ubuntu Release Cycle .::. Size~: 19.5 KBSep 09 23:39
schestowitzit's not even so accurateSep 09 23:39
schestowitzafaik, remnant works for google now, not canonicalSep 09 23:40
abushcrafterGNU/linux support speexSep 09 23:41
abushcrafterVorbis is open-source and patent-free; why do we need Speex?Sep 09 23:41
abushcrafterVorbis is a great project but its goals are not the same as Speex. Vorbis is mostly aimed at compressing music and audio in general, while Speex targets speech only. For that reason Speex can achieve much better results than Vorbis on speech, typically 2-4 times higher compression at equal quality. Sep 09 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @satipera: Guantanamo... 10 years of NATO political prisoners. #landofthefreeSep 09 23:42
schestowitzoh, lookie here, BillG travels to bihar againSep 09 23:44
schestowitzHe must need to do some more PRSep 09 23:44
schestowitzTaking some photographs  with "brown kids" to pretend he too is poor  and struggling for "them" the poor people so that he can hijack their voice and lobby for hisrich boys clubSep 09 23:45
schestowitzabushcrafter: the shows are not only voice thoughSep 09 23:45
schestowitzAnd you can't flip b/w codecs half way, not tirviallySep 09 23:45
schestowitzyou can change sample rates, but not encoding methodSep 09 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have to say this. When Thatcher dies I will not feel about her as I used to years ago. But she was not good for us.Sep 09 23:47
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83260768Sep 09 23:48
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 22:45:33 UTC - Identi.ca: I have to say this. When Thatcher dies I will not feel about her as I used to years ago. But she was not good for us.Sep 09 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Official #NASA Futuristic Space MMO May Come to #Linux http://ur1.ca/51sha superstellar newsSep 09 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Official NASA Futuristic Space MMO May Come to Linux ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 126.56 KBSep 09 23:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83259814Sep 09 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 22:26:19 UTC - Identi.ca: Just got home. Time to get everything tidied up for tonight. Romantic night of dinner in-house awaits! :-)Sep 09 23:49
schestowitzSounds like someone made plans for Linux with wine :-)Sep 09 23:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: Are you at _Goblin 's house or something?Sep 09 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek ♻ @kdebrasil KDE 4.8 Release Schedule: http://ur1.ca/51shg #kdeSep 09 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @trashbird1240 water?Sep 09 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schedules/KDE4/4.8 Release Schedule - KDE TechBase .::. Size~: 38.24 KBSep 09 23:50
*DaemonFC (~ryan@adsl-99-191-231-12.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrightsSep 09 23:51
schestowitzsebsebseb: noSep 09 23:51
schestowitzwhy?Sep 09 23:51
schestowitzsebsebseb: DaemonFC is in Dawn's dormSep 09 23:52
DaemonFCewwwSep 09 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE insists that #KDE5 is not really KDE5 but a framework aside... well, the X in 4.X releases soon exceeds 9.Sep 09 23:52
schestowitzLOLSep 09 23:52
schestowitzLair?Sep 09 23:52
DaemonFClevel 5 biohazardSep 09 23:52
DaemonFC:)Sep 09 23:52
schestowitz"pick a number"Sep 09 23:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: is a what?Sep 09 23:52
schestowitzsebsebseb: what a isSep 09 23:53
DaemonFCschestowitz: Why do you figure Kubuntu comes with Quassel?Sep 09 23:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: Well that's interesting the KDE 4.8 sechduled, so if they come out with 4.8.2 on April 3rd, well that's the day before Mageia 2 is meant to be becoming outSep 09 23:53
DaemonFCthat has to be one of the worst IRC programs I've seenSep 09 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I stuck the living room telly in the lhc corner. The sound is coming predominantly from the rhc of the room? Acoustic explanation please.Sep 09 23:53
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Konversation :)Sep 09 23:54
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.0.0-10-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.1 (4.7.1), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 5/923GB, RAM: 1069/8001MB, 172 proc's, 4.34min upSep 09 23:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: I tired it b\rieflySep 09 23:56
abushcrafterAnswered that already, early in the morning, I think but I can't find my post in the logs...Sep 09 23:56
schestowitzIt seemed features-richSep 09 23:57
DaemonFCno way to disable loggingSep 09 23:57
DaemonFCthat really bugs meSep 09 23:57
schestowitzamarsh04: iy was past midnightSep 09 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Parsix 3.7 (Core) has just been released http://www.parsix.org/ State Dept. must be thinking how to #stuxnet this one, too :-) #cablegateSep 09 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We're fund-raising. You can book a talk from Julian Assange (sat from house arrest) here: http://t.co/Og78toHSep 09 23:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Parsix GNU/Linux - Desktop Linux Operating System .::. Size~: 13.62 KBSep 09 23:57
schestowitzAround 1am when I went to bedSep 09 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 09 23:57
abushcrafterI was laterSep 09 23:57
schestowitz[01:12] <abushcrafter> please do. I would like that.Sep 09 23:57
schestowitz[01:14] <abushcrafter> I guess a page or paragraph explaining speex and have a look at the statsSep 09 23:57
schestowitz[01:21] <abushcrafter> just a quick restart of irc appSep 09 23:57
abushcrafterI am still getting data...Sep 09 23:58
schestowitzI need to get back to doing video episodes with TimSep 09 23:58
schestowitzWhen we see the need, I guessSep 09 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them. (sideline them) !anticapitalistSep 09 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I'm willing to bet skyscraper buildings kill more birds than wind farms. Real issue is the big budget investments in nuclear energy.Sep 09 23:59
schestowitzsatipera is on a rantSep 09 23:59
abushcrafterwww.speex.org/Sep 09 23:59
schestowitzhis background in identica says "anti-capitalism"Sep 09 23:59
schestowitzWhich in the West is frowned uponSep 09 23:59

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