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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Caterpillar Official Cites #BillGates to Justify Colluding With Oppressors http://ur1.ca/534gu #wlfind #china #usSep 15 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Caterpillar Official Cites Bill Gates to Justify Colluding With Oppressors http://ur1.ca/534gu #cablegate !wlSep 15 00:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] It's Only A Miracle If You're Not In The Business Of Selling Loaves & Fishes http://goo.gl/l652n #brilliantSep 15 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Even Amid Departure From Microsoft, Bill Gates Lobbies Pakistani Government to Pay Microsoft http://ur1.ca/534k5 #lobbyingSep 15 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It's Only A Miracle If You're Not In The Business Of Selling Loaves & Fishes | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.2 KBSep 15 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Even Amid Departure From Microsoft, Bill Gates Lobbies Pakistani Government to Pay Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.19 KBSep 15 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Even Amid Departure From Microsoft, Bill Gates Lobbies Pakistani Government to Pay Microsoft http://ur1.ca/534k5 #wlfind !wlSep 15 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Having done some Microsoft PR recently, /. now posts "Windows 8 Roundup". Sigh. No wonder Malda left. They got infiltrated perhaps.Sep 15 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Instead of attacking WikiLeaks, fix what it exposed http://ur1.ca/534kn !wikileaksSep 15 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Even Amid Departure From Microsoft, Bill Gates Lobbies Pakistani Government to Pay Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.19 KBSep 15 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Instead of attacking WikiLeaks, fix what it exposed - Stripes - Independent U.S. military news from Iraq, Afghanistan and bases worldwide .::. Size~: 77.89 KBSep 15 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] morning owl post in the great hall as students have their brekkie; nobody seems on the alert for owl shit on their corn flakes #HarryPotterSep 15 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Apple Takes a Bite of Fake Viagra Experts http://ur1.ca/534u0 #apple #chinaSep 15 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Apple Takes a Bite of Fake Viagra Experts http://ur1.ca/534u0 #wlfind #usSep 15 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when tech companies patent body parts and gain exclusive sales rights: #eyeStoreSep 15 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Building 7 Explained http://ur1.ca/5351y steel softening/melting from fire, in case some people still believe some imaginary explanationSep 15 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building 7 Explained       - YouTube .::. Size~: 111.74 KBSep 15 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] well, except for #OpenHatchSep 15 01:05
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=UULUQfEQFuUSep 15 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I Was A Deluded 9/11 Truther       - YouTube .::. Size~: 111.58 KBSep 15 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/9/2011: PostgreSQL 9.1, Qt In Cars http://ur1.ca/53571 !techrightsSep 15 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 14/9/2011: PostgreSQL 9.1, Qt In Cars http://ur1.ca/53571Sep 15 01:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Recent statement by the New York based CPJ is misleading.Sep 15 01:15
schestowitzok sleeep time... cabelgate in dawnSep 15 01:20
schestowitztessier: last night apache entered an improper state and didn't serve pages for hours. I wonder if nagios can check page status.Sep 15 01:21
tessierschestowitz: Weird...it is supposed to be doing so already. I got some pages but by the time I looked it was ok again.Sep 15 01:22
tessierSo I thought it was a false alarm.Sep 15 01:22
schestowitzit lasted about 6 hoursSep 15 01:23
schestowitzrestarting apache solved itSep 15 01:23
schestowitzI've just posted a cable from HanoiSep 15 01:23
schestowitz:-)Sep 15 01:23
tessierThat has happened before but not for a few months at least. Wish I knew why it did that. Was it just not answering requests at all?Sep 15 01:24
schestowitzit responded with varnish and some error codeSep 15 01:24
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schestowitz50xSep 15 01:24
twitterhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nNpugk66tQY/TnC-03kJNGI/AAAAAAAAChg/PGudx2EdDQg/w402/windows-1-vs-8.jpegSep 15 01:24
schestowitzmaybe 501 or 03Sep 15 01:24
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 15 01:24
schestowitzmaybe 501 or 503Sep 15 01:24
schestowitzoh, no, twitter, I'm trying to avoid the win8 hypeSep 15 01:25
schestowitzslashdot plays along with itSep 15 01:25
schestowitzall,. day, long.Sep 15 01:25
schestowitzIt's like they coopted even opposition sites, making them a pR outpostSep 15 01:25
twitterI thought it was a funny pictureSep 15 01:25
twitterit's more vapor ware to meSep 15 01:26
schestowitzit is funnySep 15 01:26
schestowitzbut I think it's better to ignore itSep 15 01:26
schestowitzWindows doesn't matter much anymoreSep 15 01:26
schestowitzvery few even use win7Sep 15 01:26
schestowitzor vistaSep 15 01:26
schestowitzit's xp (2001)Sep 15 01:26
schestowitzand people don't need to see the vapourSep 15 01:26
schestowitzIt serves mSSep 15 01:26
twittermy wife is astounded that al-waleed bin talal owns so much of the US.Sep 15 01:27
schestowitzanyway, I need help finding cables tomorrowSep 15 01:27
twittersounds like funSep 15 01:27
schestowitztwitter: he's mates with bnillSep 15 01:27
schestowitzChina too owns the statesSep 15 01:27
schestowitzIt lends to the bankerSep 15 01:27
schestowitzWho own the estateSep 15 01:27
schestowitzAnd would foreclose even if there are homeless people who might as well occupy such housesSep 15 01:27
schestowitzhe marvels of trying to keep house values upSep 15 01:27
schestowitzAt the expense of people's life qualitySep 15 01:28
schestowitzone day china will empty some cities, then maybe set up vollages outpoists in those towns it bought, I guessSep 15 01:28
schestowitz!google talal gates techrightsSep 15 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Acacia - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AcaciaSep 15 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Gates-Backed Company Accused of Monopoly Abuse and - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/12/14/gates-and-monsanto-investigation/Sep 15 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Proxy Analysis – Bill Gates, Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal Al Saud and ... | http://techrights.org/2008/02/15/sco-acacia-proxy-link-probe/Sep 15 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2010 February 23 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/02/23/Sep 15 01:28
schestowitzgnSep 15 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] BSOD for the Azure generation - http://technabob.com/blog/2011/04/26/windows-8-blue-screen-of-death/ #fbSep 15 01:29
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twitterwell, just let me know how to help with calbesSep 15 01:29
tessierI am very curious to see what will happen when China's real estate bubble crashes.Sep 15 01:37
twitterthe money will have to be "invested" somewhere else?Sep 15 01:44
tessierThe "money" will simply be lost. Just like it was here.Sep 15 01:45
tessierThe value goes poof.Sep 15 01:45
tessierThey could have social unrest. They will likely try to sell off a bunch of their debt holdings.Sep 15 01:45
tessierWhich will make life difficult for the US as the US will not be able to sell any more debt.Sep 15 01:45
tessierCould be a good thing in the long run, really. Depends on how things work out.Sep 15 01:46
tessierFor the US anwyay. Certainly bad for China in any case.Sep 15 01:46
tessierAlmost seems inevitable but these things can take decades.Sep 15 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Freedom Not Fear: Ending A Decade Long Legacy of International #Privacy Erosion https://eff.org/r.1Cb #dataretention #FNF11Sep 15 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Freedom Not Fear: Ending A Decade Long Legacy of International Privacy Erosion | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 24.47 KBSep 15 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] First interview with alleged WikiLeaks Swiss bank whistleblower after prison release http://t.co/ZQwR92dwSep 15 01:50
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twitterIt does not really go poof, it just goes into a bigger yacht owned by some crook like Paul Allen.Sep 15 01:51
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I saw a screenshot of Windows 8 a little while ago now, looks nice to me, well for WindowsSep 15 02:00
sebsebseband yeah it looks nicer than Ubuntu :DSep 15 02:00
sebsebseboh yeahSep 15 02:00
sebsebsebmuch nicerSep 15 02:00
sebsebsebUbuntu new bradning since 10.04, uh i'll have the old brown look any day over that :DSep 15 02:00
sebsebsebbranding aboveSep 15 02:00
sebsebseboh and your in away status, ah wellSep 15 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for September 15, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/458532/rssSep 15 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] The entrepreneur's dilemma: Justifying contributor agreements in !opensource - by @webmink : http://ur1.ca/5367eSep 15 02:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dutch woman 'called boyfriend 65,000 times' http://is.gd/WfCiwRSep 15 02:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Dutch woman 'called boyfriend 65,000 times' .::. Size~: 58.68 KBSep 15 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Van overloaded with 66 children in China http://is.gd/oTcley - sounds like #RyanAir testing a move into the schoolbus serviceSep 15 02:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Van overloaded with 66 children in China .::. Size~: 62.21 KBSep 15 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hundreds of WikiLeaks revelations being discovered by journalists, rights groups, academics every day http://t.co/dw6PyhXSep 15 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] gotta love action scenes that have the chars explain & discuss an "urgent" solution as the "emergency" situation happily waits for themSep 15 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if all it takes is discussing a solution to pause it, they need to go round in discussion circles until the emergency gets bored waitingSep 15 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Intel aims for !OpenSource #OpenGL 3.0 driver by year's end /via @yongsunSep 15 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Intel aims for !OpenSource #OpenGL 3.0 driver by year's end http://goo.gl/fb/R03qq /via @yongsunSep 15 02:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Aims For Open-Source OpenGL 3.0 Driver By Year's End .::. Size~: 18.25 KBSep 15 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #BigG purchases #BigBlue patents to defend #Android: http://arst.ch/qw6 by @segphault /via @arstechnicaSep 15 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Righthaven will go down in history alongside #SCO as running jokes http://is.gd/SyiJao - now complaining about lack of notice lolSep 15 02:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google purchases Big Blue patents to defend Android .::. Size~: 30.31 KBSep 15 02:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Righthaven, King Of Suing Without Notification, Whines To Judge About Motions Filed Against It Without Enough Notification | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.15 KBSep 15 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Hilarious. I'm now being followed by a company that hires "board certified plastic surgeons" - and I'm supposed to be happy?Sep 15 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] trying #hotot. interesting client. interface looks nice, although I do not like the font as used on the buttons and the actual messagesSep 15 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @HSM_Satan: @wayneborean I have a special place reserved for Joan Rivers, when it's her time. And her plastic surgeon.Sep 15 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nokia Puts Qt In Cars, Announces Nokia Car Mode http://www.muktware.com/news/2453 #nokia #car #qt #gnu #linux #softwareSep 15 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Five Best Desktop Linux Distributions http://tinyurl.com/3zm7r3h #gnu #linux #software #desktopSep 15 03:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Puts Qt In Cars, Announces Nokia Car Mode | Muktware .::. Size~: 25.07 KBSep 15 03:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Five Best Desktop Linux Distributions | ZDNet .::. Size~: 120.67 KBSep 15 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Google and Intel Android pairing spells trouble for Microsoft http://tinyurl.com/6yxc9uh #google #android #microsoftSep 15 03:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Demoware culture marches inexorably on. Just deleted yet another former #Jamendo (now MySpace & non- #CC) artist from my hard drive.Sep 15 04:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] If you don't want me to share your recordings with my friends, I don't want to listen to them. Goodbye and good luck.Sep 15 04:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Alteța Sa Regală Principele Radu al României - Galerie foto http://tinyurl.com/67zugjb #romania #monarchy #photoSep 15 04:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alteta Sa Regala Principele Radu al Romaniei - Galerie foto .::. Size~: 42.39 KBSep 15 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Official website of HRH Radu of Romania - photo gallery http://tinyurl.com/67zugjb #romania #monarchy #photoSep 15 04:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Casa Regală a României http://www.familiaregala.ro/ro/curtea-regala/ #romania #monarchySep 15 04:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Familia Regala - Casa Regala .::. Size~: 5.14 KBSep 15 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Blue Screen of Death gets a new look in Windows 8 http://tinyurl.com/6k4lw5j #microsoft #windows #windows8 #bsod #softwareSep 15 04:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] YouTube Introduces Video Editing Feature http://mashable.com/2011/09/14/edit-videos-on-youtube/ #youtube #videoSep 15 04:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows 8 distribution takes a page from Linux http://tinyurl.com/6c3zpoj #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #windows8Sep 15 04:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 distribution takes a page from Linux | ZDNet .::. Size~: 117.77 KBSep 15 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Why Working In The Open http://tinyurl.com/688klby #gnu #linux #software #fossSep 15 04:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] CentOS-5.7 is now released : http://t.co/UQbrnqV #centos #redhat #gnu #linux #event #softwareSep 15 04:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @stav !Google has acquired more than 2000 patents from !IBM to help defend !Android http://ur1.ca/537c4Sep 15 05:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google purchases Big Blue patents to defend Android .::. Size~: 30.29 KBSep 15 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @robconnolly Wow, !owncloud really seems to be coming along. Still very much a WIP, the calendar is a bit buggy and doesn't work with ...Sep 15 05:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !tzag !identiverse! Good Morning to anyone at or near my time-zone. Today will be a great day *punches fist in air*Sep 15 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff! #fb "Evolve Your Enterprise IT Using PaaS And The Cloud" - http://ur1.ca/539wmSep 15 06:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] to all my german friends: "einigermassen" does not translate to "somehow" in english. the word(s) you want is "somewhat" or "more or less"Sep 15 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] this was one germanglishism that had been bugging me for years, and now (as i am exposed to more german) i understand the confusion :)Sep 15 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] New blog post: "Activity roundup: HACK IN DA B0X" + comparing desktop #Linux to #Windows7 http://bit.ly/nzGDoU #android #emulators #hackingSep 15 07:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: osg33x: Activity roundup: Hack in da B0X! .::. Size~: 52.7 KBSep 15 07:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firefox For Tablets Arrives In Nightly Builds http://ow.ly/6uTpO #web #mozilla #firefox #mobileSep 15 07:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @relucblog #Geolocater is ready for !Firefox 7 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/geolocater/ manage your geolocation on ...Sep 15 07:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Google sees dip in market share http://efytimes.com/e1/69154/fullnews.htm #google #marketSep 15 07:41
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-14/google-purchases-1-023-patents-from-ibm-to-bolster-portfolio.htmlSep 15 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Buys 1,023 IBM Patents to Bolster Defense of Android - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 109.65 KBSep 15 07:51
schestowitzheySep 15 07:51
schestowitzold news, no?Sep 15 07:51
Chips_B_MalroyHi, you still upSep 15 07:51
Chips_B_Malroyno not old newsSep 15 07:52
schestowitzjust woke upSep 15 07:52
schestowitzit's foggySep 15 07:52
Chips_B_Malroythey bought another 1000+ patents from IBM againSep 15 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Switchover To IPv6 By March http://ow.ly/6uTnl #ipv6 #netSep 15 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Hands on with the Asus Eee PC X101 MeeGo netbook http://nowskip.to/nRoFvGSep 15 07:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Switchover To IPv6 By March .::. Size~: 211.83 KBSep 15 07:52
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Sep 15 07:52
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Chips_B_Malroy"Google Inc. (GOOG) bought 1,023 patents from International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) as the Internet search and advertising company bolsters its strategy of defending against smartphone lawsuits."Sep 15 07:53
schestowitzoh, another sale?Sep 15 07:53
schestowitzsilly GOOGSep 15 07:53
Chips_B_Malroywell, you correct that software patents should be abolishedSep 15 07:53
Chips_B_Malroybut maybe even Google does not have the pull with the US gov to do thatSep 15 07:54
Chips_B_Malroyso in the meantime they buy patentsSep 15 07:54
Chips_B_MalroyI lost the link, but in another story Apple asked to delay their lawsuit against MotorolaSep 15 07:55
Chips_B_Malroysince they claim that since Google bought Motorola, that Motorola has no standing legallySep 15 07:55
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Chips_B_Malroy"Google is building an arsenal of patents that the company has said is largely designed to counter a ?hostile, organized campaign? by companies including Apple Inc. and Microsoft Corp. against the Android operating system for mobile devices. Google had already acquired 1,030 patents from IBM in a transaction recorded in July, and will obtain more than 17,000 with its $12.5 billion acquisition of Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc."Sep 15 07:56
Chips_B_MalroySee these are new patents again from IBMSep 15 07:57
Chips_B_Malroy1023 this time, 1030 in August both from IBMSep 15 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/114191976395571201Sep 15 07:58
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: "Google acquires 1000 patents from IBM". Acquires as in "property is transferred to" or simple "licenses it"? cc/@schestowitzSep 15 07:58
schestowitzOh, I see nowSep 15 07:58
DaemonFCthat Ubuntu Software Center is a dinosaur for installing local packagesSep 15 07:59
DaemonFCI ended up putting gdebi back inSep 15 07:59
DaemonFCit just pops right upSep 15 07:59
DaemonFCUbuntu Software Center takes about 20 seconds just to start and offer to install the packageSep 15 07:59
DaemonFCshameful :PSep 15 07:59
Chips_B_MalroyWish I had the Apple link for you.  Perhaps Google exspensive plan to buy all these patents is starting to pay off in court for them and others using AndroidSep 15 08:00
schestowitzProbably diesSep 15 08:01
schestowitzBut it doesn't solve the problemf for othersSep 15 08:01
schestowitzLike MeegoSep 15 08:01
schestowitzOrm WebOSSep 15 08:01
schestowitzThey don't indemnify othersSep 15 08:01
schestowitzStupid GoogleSep 15 08:01
DaemonFCyou can tell what Ubuntu added to XFCESep 15 08:02
DaemonFCit's 5 times slower than anything elseSep 15 08:02
Chips_B_MalroyThe question is when M$ will lose its gravy train of taxing (extorting) android OEM's in court.Sep 15 08:02
Chips_B_MalroyMaybe Google does not have to indemmify others, as long as they help them and show up in court, give a few patents like they have in the HTC case with AppleSep 15 08:03
iophkThat's what M$ doest — tax OEMs.Sep 15 08:04
Chips_B_MalroyI am thinking that the days of M$ and Apple trolling Android OEM's is coming to an endSep 15 08:04
iophkIt would take large action on the part of Google for the harassment of Android sellers to end.Sep 15 08:05
DaemonFCUbuntu Software Center takes 161 MB of RAM on startSep 15 08:05
Chips_B_Malroyah here is the linkSep 15 08:05
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/apple-looks-to-postpone-motorola-patent-suits-courtesy-of-googorola-deal/2011/09/14/gIQA5TEVSK_story.htmlSep 15 08:05
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iophkDaemonFC: just reinstall SynapticSep 15 08:05
DaemonFCit's still thereSep 15 08:05
DaemonFCUbuntu software center is unbelievably badSep 15 08:06
DaemonFCit's huge, slow, and crashes a lotSep 15 08:06
DaemonFCand it has no place in XFCESep 15 08:06
iophkUghSep 15 08:06
Chips_B_MalroyIts not the best solution for Google Android or Foss.  But with the way the US gov is these days, maybe its the best thing short term, as there is just too much money for our politicians to be made here from the lobbyists to keep the patent system Sep 15 08:08
iophkThe software center seems to be a bad idea.  What is the problem it is trying to solve?Sep 15 08:09
iophkIt does not seem to be a viable replacement for Synaptic.Sep 15 08:09
DaemonFCapparently Synaptic doesn't crash enough and use enough memorySep 15 08:09
iophkUbuntu was doing so well before the Mono incidents.Sep 15 08:09
Chips_B_Malroygood night allSep 15 08:10
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iophkWhat recourse to end-users have in Ubuntu to get mistakes like the Software Center and Mono resolved?Sep 15 08:12
iophkIf it's not better than Synaptic, then it does not belong in *any* released version of UbuntuSep 15 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @maddoghall: Software Freedom Day is on Saturday. If your event is not on the map, please make sure it is there. http://t.co/Y5g9ozi4Sep 15 08:19
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iophkhttp://softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011Sep 15 08:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @CarlaSchroder: That was my brother's death you were cheering http://t.co/fot0SbocSep 15 08:20
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DaemonFCiophk, I think Kubuntu was the only software center they got rightSep 15 08:26
DaemonFCthey have that Muon thingSep 15 08:26
DaemonFCit doesn't use an obscene amount of resourcesSep 15 08:26
DaemonFCI think next time I go to work on that old laptop I'll stick Fedora with XFCE on itSep 15 08:29
DaemonFCI put Xubuntu on it for my brother, 11.04Sep 15 08:29
DaemonFCbut it's deteriorating Sep 15 08:29
DaemonFCthey were making some progress in removing the bloated crap from it and then they start up againSep 15 08:29
DaemonFCthere's several parts of GNOME 3 and Unity in it now :PSep 15 08:30
iophkXubuntu was only lightweight for a short while.  How long will Lubuntu stay lean?Sep 15 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Copyright Maximalists turn on Libraries, Other Horrors. Will Yang Return to Yahoo? http://ur1.ca/53ajg by guest editorSep 15 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @martinolivera: RT @deblike @martinolivera @fcassia M$ & Co. quieren educar consumidores, nosotros peleamos para formar ciudadanosSep 15 08:34
schestowitzuntil canonical makes a fisher price gui like winSep 15 08:41
schestowitzI have a question... is this Google, purchase (meh... "purchase") of patent any different from the previous one?Sep 15 08:43
schestowitzOr are all the older points similarly applicable?Sep 15 08:43
schestowitzIIRC, Google did not advertise that it had done thisSep 15 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Iran blocks Tor; Tor releases same-day fix - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/iran-blocks-tor-tor-releases-same-day-fixSep 15 08:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz, speaking of patents, that s3tc one may be invalidSep 15 08:46
DaemonFCIntel is looking into that to try to get it turned on by default in MesaSep 15 08:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, I figure Google had two choicesSep 15 08:48
DaemonFCstart stockpiling patents or be a sitting duck unable to defend Android from Apple and Microsoft and tons of dedicated trollsSep 15 08:48
DaemonFCI'm not sure I can see Google becoming a patent troll itselfSep 15 08:49
DaemonFCI'd rather have Google snap up some patents than companies like Microsoft and Apple who have proven that they will abuse the systemSep 15 08:49
iophkIt would be cheaper for Google (and Android sellers) to get the US laws rewritten than to keep bidding for patents while fighting Apple/M$ and being plagued by trolls.   Sep 15 08:50
iophkMicrosoft and Apple are *already* abusing the system.  Sep 15 08:51
DaemonFCrightSep 15 08:51
DaemonFCand I'm sure Microsoft or Apple would have bought up Motorola for patents if Google didn'tSep 15 08:51
DaemonFCand we know what they'd have done with themSep 15 08:51
DaemonFCno questionSep 15 08:52
schestowitziophk: and there are trolls like MOSAIDSep 15 08:52
DaemonFCI'd rather that software patents didn't existSep 15 08:52
schestowitzThat Microsoft passes patents to, for attacks on AndroidSep 15 08:52
DaemonFCbut they do and there are worse things that could have happened with Motorola'sSep 15 08:52
schestowitzA momnth ago Mark Webbink told me that this was Microsoft's strategySep 15 08:52
schestowitzBut they can't quite do anything against it other than work to reform the systemSep 15 08:53
schestowitzOr eliminate patens one by oneSep 15 08:53
DaemonFChmmm, wonder if this CD will burn......Sep 15 08:53
DaemonFCand it didSep 15 08:53
iophkEliminating patents one by one is an impossible task ; the number is virtually infiniteSep 15 08:53
DaemonFCI thinkSep 15 08:53
DaemonFCit was a little oversizedSep 15 08:53
DaemonFCK3B lets you overburnSep 15 08:54
iophknot enough money and time in the universe to take them on one by one as is currently happeningSep 15 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon for Thursday is online http://ur1.ca/53an7 !SelfPubSep 15 08:54
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DaemonFCno, but it is nice when a patent blocking an important bit of technology is defeatedSep 15 08:54
iophkeveryone has to be able to see that nowSep 15 08:54
iophksome may ignore it, but they have to see itSep 15 08:54
DaemonFCbrbSep 15 08:55
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iophkit is nice when a patent blocking an important bit of technology is defeated, but it is only a drop in the bucket.  there are plenty more patents where the one came from.Sep 15 08:55
schestowitzyes, exactlySep 15 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Winning Lubuntu 11.10 Community Wallpapers http://ur1.ca/53aoc it is a slow news week when wallpapers are "news". #cablegate soon...Sep 15 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... now i get to put out the garbage and then >I< get to go offline ... good night !Identiverse !tzafSep 15 08:57
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iophkschestowitzSep 15 08:58
iophk10:41Sep 15 08:58
iophkuntil canonical makes a fisher price gui like winSep 15 08:58
iophk10:43Sep 15 08:58
iophkI have a question... is this Google, purchase (meh... "purchase") of patent any different from the previous one?Sep 15 08:58
iophk10:43Sep 15 08:58
iophkOr are all the older points similarly applicable?Sep 15 08:58
iophk10:43Sep 15 08:58
iophkIIRC, Google did not advertise that it had done thisSep 15 08:58
iophkwhich patents do you mean?Sep 15 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A monospace that looks like a proportional http://ur1.ca/53aom don't we already have enough fonts? Anyway, these look good.Sep 15 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear #Windows software packages that assume installation on "C:\Program Files" and not offer option to change that, You suck! #rantSep 15 08:59
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iophkMotorola, IBM  or other patents?Sep 15 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A First Look at #Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 1 http://ur1.ca/53aoz visual tour, one month away.Sep 15 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 Home Encryption Performance http://ur1.ca/53ap8 useful to see it numericallySep 15 09:00
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schestowitziophk: the ones from July/AugustSep 15 09:02
schestowitzAnd the latest 1000Sep 15 09:02
schestowitzI think some bloggers first noticed itSep 15 09:02
schestowitzQuiet passage/assignmentSep 15 09:02
iophkWhere did they come from?Sep 15 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a company reassigns patents from another company to itself, does that make it "innovative"?Sep 15 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google purchases Big Blue patents to defend Android - http://bit.ly/qOvn3e patent MADness continuesSep 15 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.10 Beta and Unity: Mixed Verdict http://ur1.ca/53aqf the armchair pundit knows allSep 15 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] О Москве, открытых данных и скепсисе - http://bit.ly/pjufZN a sceptical look at Moscow's #opendata moves #russiaSep 15 09:09
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iophkTired of URL shortenersSep 15 09:10
iophk"It's not presently clear what areas of technology the patents cover"Sep 15 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Zoo Death Stirs Debate About Keeping Dolphins in Captivity - http://bit.ly/qqgru1 they're still *debating* it? #ethologySep 15 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Makers & surgical trainee team up to improve prototyping bones from CT scans with 3D printers - http://bit.ly/pwqixw more fab #fabber stuffSep 15 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dan D’Amico: An Economist’s Look at Intellectual Property Law - http://bit.ly/qgij0K "finds no compelling case"Sep 15 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mexico: two tortured, murdered as warning to those using Twitter and blogs to report narco-crime - http://bit.ly/q6oaci appalling escalationSep 15 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux hits version 3! http://ur1.ca/5348p #Dynebolic #gnu #linuxSep 15 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why You Should Join Diaspora Now, Like Your Freedom Depends On It http://ur1.ca/5344z for freedom--makes more sense to make 1's own instanceSep 15 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] They installed thin-clients! yay! \o/ .... They are #Windows only! #Boooo. Seriously, fsck this guys!Sep 15 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Having #Flash, #Javascript or any sort of animation on this thin clients is a migraine waiting to happen! #JitterSep 15 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Senate's PROTECT IP Act Gathering Steam - http://bit.ly/qgLOye looking bad (v @jamesallworth)Sep 15 09:24
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iophkhttp://thenextweb.com/google/2011/09/14/google-snatches-up-1023-ibm-patents-to-shore-up-android-defenses/ Sep 15 09:30
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iophk"The ones that will probably be of most interest to Google are the ones related to cellular and mobile devices:"Sep 15 09:30
iophkhttp://www.seobythesea.com/2011/09/google-ibm-patents-august/Sep 15 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Original Pronunciation: English language texts in period speech - http://bit.ly/rnKZUM ooh, exciting #linguistics #shakespeareSep 15 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @laforge are they trying to argue that copyright doesn't apply to firmware, or that they're self-proclaimed copyright infringers?Sep 15 09:34
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MinceRgeekingsSep 15 09:34
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83882196Sep 15 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 08:24:35 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz If a company reassigns #patents from another company to itself, does that make it "innovative"?☝ No. It's patent masturbationSep 15 09:35
schestowitzPricelessSep 15 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Perens tries to bridge gap on #copyright http://ur1.ca/53avk Big data meets Bruce Perens: An open source ‘covenant’ http://ur1.ca/53avuSep 15 09:35
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schestowitzGive me an "S". Give me an "H". Give me an "I". Give me a "T". What do we have?  APPL!Sep 15 09:37
MinceR:)Sep 15 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No truce expected in global patent wars http://ur1.ca/529bv and guess who started it?Sep 15 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fsf: New version of dynebolic gnu/linux http://ur1.ca/5348p one of the distros we recommend for their strong commitment to user freedomSep 15 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Revolutionizing desktops without causing user revolts http://ur1.ca/53azc armchair pundit knows, having revolutionised many desktops ;-)Sep 15 09:54
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DaemonFClolSep 15 09:55
DaemonFCFirefox 8 asks if you want to approve those add-ons that Ubuntu shoves in that don't do anything usefulSep 15 09:55
DaemonFCit says they were installed by a third party and that you may not want themSep 15 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Continuing our tradition of getting together with Mono users at Microsoft conferences" --MS MVP de Icaza http://ur1.ca/53azuSep 15 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debating Google+IBM patent passage all morning so far, trying to figure out what to make of it.Sep 15 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Qatar opens .QA domain name registration to the public - http://tnw.co/p666L5 the Arab alternative - .قطر - looks even classierSep 15 10:04
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schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=08COTONOU408Sep 15 10:05
schestowitz"Sep 15 10:05
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schestowitzassistance in arranging a meeting with Bill Gates. Sep 15 10:05
schestowitzWorld Bank/IMFSep 15 10:05
schestowitz"Sep 15 10:05
schestowitzLOLSep 15 10:05
schestowitzSame **, different daySep 15 10:05
schestowitzBeninSep 15 10:05
DaemonFCI can see why Ubuntu is skipping X server 1.11, no new featuresSep 15 10:10
DaemonFCthen again, hundreds of bug fixes landed :PSep 15 10:10
DaemonFCbut they seem to be more worried if nonfree video drivers loadSep 15 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag identizens. Listening to a bloke from the band Chameleon Circuit who only write songs about !DRWho. How long tail is that? #coolSep 15 10:10
DaemonFCI've installed 1.11 though, it seems to get along with Wine betterSep 15 10:11
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sosmanBill Gates aside - does techrights have a position on vaccination?Sep 15 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bankers: an anthropological study - http://bit.ly/qTcfyt "financial word is too important to leave to the bankers"; fascinating (v @jjn1)Sep 15 10:14
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DaemonFCI get my flu shot, I'm not sure if it has ever been the reason I didn't get the fluSep 15 10:14
DaemonFCbut my insurance pays for it, so why not?Sep 15 10:14
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 10:14
sosmanDaemonFC: thanks but thats like comparing todays weather with climate change.Sep 15 10:15
DaemonFCBill Gates doesn't promote vaccinations as a charitable thingSep 15 10:15
sosmanI was hoping to leave Bill out of it for the moment.Sep 15 10:15
DaemonFChe has enough money that 5% of it could probably vaccinate every child in Africa if he wanted to be charitableSep 15 10:16
sosmanVaccinations are a good thing right?Sep 15 10:16
DaemonFCwhat he does want to do is make sure that whoever ends up paying, they pay the most money possible, because he owns stock in the companies with patents on the vaccinations Sep 15 10:16
DaemonFCif anything, he is preventing good from being doneSep 15 10:16
DaemonFCmore money = less people who can be vaccinated Sep 15 10:17
DaemonFCbut yes, aside from him, mass vaccine programs would be a good thingSep 15 10:17
sosmanOk - thanksSep 15 10:17
DaemonFCanother issue that stands in the way of that are that some of those countries deny that AIDS exists for example, and won't allow any AIDS medication into the countrySep 15 10:17
sosmanNot to mention RC church stand on condoms.Sep 15 10:18
DaemonFCor they claim that vaccines for other diseases are really poison that "corrupt western governments" are sneaking inSep 15 10:18
schestowitz[10:13] <sosman> Bill Gates aside - does techrights have a position on vaccination?Sep 15 10:18
schestowitzspeaking for myself, I'm pro-vaccinationSep 15 10:18
DaemonFCyeah, the Catholic church and their antiquated belief system is indirectly responsible for many preventable HIV infections and deathsSep 15 10:19
DaemonFCall over the worldSep 15 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Curse of Tina - http://bbc.in/n5i4y1 wonderful piece of writing about chickens, pirate radio & murder (v @PeteDotAscian @Colvinius)Sep 15 10:19
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DaemonFCthey mostly have anti-birth control policies because they want their followers to have lots of kids and indoctrinate them for the churchSep 15 10:19
sosmanI still haven't come up with a good punchline for "An iPhone walks into a bar ..."Sep 15 10:19
sosmanDaemonFC: don't get me started.Sep 15 10:20
DaemonFCin practice, they do look the other way thoughSep 15 10:20
DaemonFCat least in the USSep 15 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] " I heard the sound of angry vacuuming from the next room and knew I was in trouble."Sep 15 10:20
DaemonFCbecause most people in the US aren't going to agree to have 10 kidsSep 15 10:20
sosmanschestowitz: thanks for that clarification, sometimes the Gates news buries the underlying good of vaccines.Sep 15 10:21
sosmanDaemonFC: surely most folk in the US can't afford to have 10 kids.Sep 15 10:21
DaemonFCdid you hear about those people that are filing a complaint against the pope and the vatican with the international criminal courtSep 15 10:21
DaemonFCaccusing them of crimes against humanitySep 15 10:22
DaemonFCfor their policies of protecting so many pedophile priestsSep 15 10:22
sosmanDaemonFC: yeah keep the blowtorch on the bastards but it will get thrown out.Sep 15 10:22
DaemonFCI've got one for you, although it might not work so well since it requires hand gestureSep 15 10:23
DaemonFCWhy do Catholic altar boys part their hair?Sep 15 10:23
sosmannot multitouch?Sep 15 10:23
DaemonFC*brushes hands downward*Sep 15 10:23
DaemonFCit'll be our little secret! :)Sep 15 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China verurteilt vier Uiguren zum Tode - http://bit.ly/oBdXwA more bad stuff happening in #xinjiang #uighursSep 15 10:24
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sosmanwe had a win here on the kid fiddlers http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-15/cappo-steps-down-from-mental-health-role/2901080Sep 15 10:24
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sosmanHeh I clicked on the map link - wtf?Sep 15 10:25
sosman"he decided not to take up the position"Sep 15 10:25
sosmanSo now I just have to convince my kids primary school that iPad's are evil.Sep 15 10:26
sosmanBut they have been drinking lots of Koolaid.Sep 15 10:26
schestowitzikoolaidSep 15 10:27
sosmanYou have to drink it with two handsSep 15 10:27
schestowitzThis reminds meSep 15 10:27
schestowitzThe other day in the steert there was this bunch of kidsSep 15 10:27
schestowitzand one was about 3Sep 15 10:27
schestowitzand a good advert of obesitySep 15 10:28
schestowitzShe was holding this carton about her own sizeSep 15 10:28
schestowitzAnd spiipping from it, looked rather odd..Sep 15 10:28
sosmaniPhone 5?Sep 15 10:28
schestowitzMany ages ago in nature we hardly had food sufficiencySep 15 10:28
schestowitzAnd now we have obese toddlers drinking their own bodyweight :-)Sep 15 10:28
sosmanMan she's livin' the dream!Sep 15 10:29
sosmanCheck out the promo photo on this page - do you think it is just a sticker on the screen? http://www.education.vic.gov.au/studentlearning/elearning/ipads/Sep 15 10:30
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sosmanIrony is that the 21 steps to learning is Flash.Sep 15 10:30
sosmanFirst step is "consider current research"Sep 15 10:32
sosmanWhich is understandably content free.Sep 15 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Luis Tascón Accused of Being “Instrument of the (U.S.) Empire” Having Spent a Month “in the Offices of Bill Gates” http://ur1.ca/53b5zSep 15 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Tascón Accused of Being “Instrument of the (U.S.) Empire” Having Spent a Month “in the Offices of Bill Gates” http://ur1.ca/53b5z #wlfindSep 15 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, you *can* print a bell with an integral clapper - http://bit.ly/pmNL1Y wow, that's clever #3dprinting #campanologySep 15 10:32
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sosmanCan blender read stl?Sep 15 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: #Obama thinks it's "in the national interest" to allow 4 countries to give weapons to child soldiers ur1.ca/53b3j #USASep 15 10:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, the cheap foods tend to be the most fattening, that's why more poor people tend to be obeseSep 15 10:39
DaemonFCand the reason the cheap junk food is so cheap is because the government pays farmers to overproduce things like cornSep 15 10:40
DaemonFCso it's really cheap to use things like high fructose corn syrup in place of sugarSep 15 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @alek: Kwazar and Pan Duże P (hear them on Saturday at CC Party) made a promo video spot of the #ccsummit2011 http://youtu.be/uwTgpYKUYKUSep 15 10:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CC Global Party promo       - YouTube .::. Size~: 82.7 KBSep 15 10:40
DaemonFCit's why a head of lettuce is $3 and a double cheeseburger at McDonalds is 99 centsSep 15 10:42
DaemonFCthey grow corn to feed the cows with instead of feeding them grassSep 15 10:43
DaemonFCthe cow's digestive system isn't made to eat cornSep 15 10:43
DaemonFCif you feed the cow grass for 5 days it would flush 80% of the e. coli 0157 h7 out of their systemSep 15 10:43
DaemonFCbut these factory farms won't do that because it adds a few days to the time needed to raise a food cowSep 15 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Microsoft has Abandoned Silverlight and All Other Plugins http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/09/Metro-Plug-insSep 15 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Bill Gates Lobbies to Integrate Programmes in Dubai With Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53b9w #wlfind #dubai #lobbyingSep 15 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The USA Foreign Secretary is appearing on telly drawing attention to all the dangerous repercussions of recent NATO countries actions.Sep 15 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Bill Gates Lobbies to Integrate Programmes in Dubai With Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53b9w #microsoft #lockinSep 15 10:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: InfoQ: Microsoft has Abandoned Silverlight and All Other Plugins .::. Size~: 77.17 KBSep 15 10:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Bill Gates Lobbies to Integrate Programmes in Dubai With Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.09 KBSep 15 10:44
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DaemonFCthey'd rater hundreds of people a year get sick from preventable food poisoningSep 15 10:44
DaemonFC*ratherSep 15 10:44
DaemonFCyou can feed your kid a hamburger from McDonalds, and 12 days later he'll be deadSep 15 10:45
DaemonFCand that's what our food supply has turned into thanks to factory farmsSep 15 10:45
DaemonFCit's a lotterySep 15 10:45
DaemonFCor tomatoes in the grocery store in DecemberSep 15 10:46
DaemonFCthey grow them on the other side of the planet, pick them green, and ripen them with ethylene gasSep 15 10:46
DaemonFCyumSep 15 10:46
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 10:46
DaemonFCI grow some of my own food, when the weather is rightSep 15 10:47
DaemonFCit's actually not hard to grow tomatoes for exampleSep 15 10:47
DaemonFCand they won't be artificially huge, but they have a lot more flavor than those artificially ripened ones at the storeSep 15 10:48
DaemonFC"It is estimated that – with this new transaction, the acquisition of Motorola Mobility, other patent purchases and Google's own patents – the search engine company now has around 20,000 patents in its arsenal. At the start of the year, Google had only 809 patents."Sep 15 10:51
DaemonFCyikesSep 15 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Steep' drop in public confidence in MPs, says watchdog http://is.gd/JHgXmP - I wonder why; corrupt thieving hypocritical scumbagsSep 15 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - 'Steep' drop in public confidence in MPs, says watchdog .::. Size~: 95.03 KBSep 15 10:52
schestowitzMarked "Secret":Sep 15 10:54
schestowitzHe also wanted to meet Bill Gates to discuss Sep 15 10:54
schestowitzwhether the Gates Foundation could provide support for the IT Sep 15 10:54
schestowitzdepartment of a new state university President Kikwete is Sep 15 10:54
schestowitzcreating. Sep 15 10:54
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=06DARESSALAAM715Sep 15 10:54
DaemonFCthere was a time when Microsoft didn't have many patentsSep 15 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable reference id: #06DARESSALAAM715 .::. Size~: 35.05 KBSep 15 10:55
DaemonFCand then they started pursuing them like Google is nowSep 15 10:55
DaemonFChttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuicklySep 15 10:57
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DaemonFCQuickly is to programming as Unity is to GUIs?Sep 15 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple drops 'Jew or not Jew' app in France http://is.gd/sjB5Q0 - designed to help #Israeli target / lobby rich folks for support?Sep 15 10:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Apple drops 'Jew or not Jew' app in France .::. Size~: 61.13 KBSep 15 10:57
DaemonFCoh great, Amarok plays for a few seconds and crashes :)Sep 15 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canadian Police Issue File-Sharing Scam Letters Fraud Warning - http://bit.ly/nTl9eS will this have knock-on consequences for the approach?Sep 15 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Bill Gates Belittles the World http://ur1.ca/53bdp #wlfind !wlSep 15 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Bill Gates Belittles the World http://ur1.ca/53bdp #cablegateSep 15 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadian Police Issue File-Sharing Scam Letters Fraud Warning | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 27.24 KBSep 15 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm so sorry but.... 'Sexist' #Topman T-shirts taken off shelves http://is.gd/yWblY2 #wtf #domesticabuseSep 15 11:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Sexist' Topman T-shirts taken off shelves | Fashion | The Guardian .::. Size~: 96.82 KBSep 15 11:05
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=10GUANGZHOU86Sep 15 11:06
schestowitz'Sep 15 11:06
schestowitz Li also Sep 15 11:06
schestowitzserves as director of Asian development for the Bill Gates-invested Sep 15 11:06
schestowitznuclear innovation outfit TerraPower.Sep 15 11:06
schestowitz"Sep 15 11:06
schestowitzGuess who lobbies for nukeSep 15 11:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable reference id: #10GUANGZHOU86 .::. Size~: 25.07 KBSep 15 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Is it lefty to ask why our tax pays private CEOs millions? http://gu.com/p/3xqb2Sep 15 11:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is it lefty to ask why our tax pays private CEOs millions? | Zoe Williams | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 241.34 KBSep 15 11:07
sosmanHow bad will it be when Bachmann or Perry become president?Sep 15 11:08
DaemonFCKCrash: Application 'amarok' crashing...Sep 15 11:08
DaemonFCKCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinitSep 15 11:08
MinceR114216 < sosman> You have to drink it with two handsSep 15 11:08
DaemonFCsosman, You better brush up on your goose steppingSep 15 11:08
MinceR"you're holding it wrong!"Sep 15 11:08
sosmanAt least Bachmann and Gates won't be pals http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63369.htmlSep 15 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bachmann: 'Crying' mother shared HPV story - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 107.17 KBSep 15 11:09
sosmanDaemonFC: downunder we will just drink more beer.Sep 15 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One US cable speaks of "U.S. Defense Secretary Bill Gates". Oh, Bill got promoted? Or is Robert just Bill now? :-)Sep 15 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Teach our kids to code #epetition - http://bit.ly/otXvUS great post, important idea: please sign and RT if you can #uk #educationSep 15 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Teach our kids to code e-petition | Emma Mulqueeny .::. Size~: 39.17 KBSep 15 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The etymology of garbage is only a century younger than rubbish. #Language. (14th & 15th)Sep 15 11:19
MinceRschestowitz: perhaps Robert is an alterego or robot of billSep 15 11:20
sosmanIts hard to motivate kids to codeSep 15 11:21
MinceRespecially if they have a consumer-only device foisted on themSep 15 11:22
sosmanAnd there is the question of who is going to teach them.Sep 15 11:22
iophksosman: it is easy but all too often there are no pro-coding computing environments in schoolsSep 15 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] GNOME Shell 3.1.91.1 Released With One-Click Installation Support For Extensions http://ur1.ca/53bh4Sep 15 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME Shell 3.1.91.1 Released With One-Click Installation Support For Extensions ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.77 KBSep 15 11:22
iophkyou can't teach coding in a fun or easy way on WindowsSep 15 11:22
MinceRiophk: there's Sugar with Python, and there's Python itself on other platforms as wellSep 15 11:23
sosmaniophk: please explainSep 15 11:23
MinceRof course, windows is not the way to goSep 15 11:23
iophkIf the environment is a drag to use then the kids are not going to enjoy any activitySep 15 11:24
MinceRindeedSep 15 11:24
iophkIf the tools suck, then the effort needed to show any results is going to be a barrierSep 15 11:24
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iophkYes, with lots of effort you can shoehorn small "Hello, World" sized programming projects into a Windows environment, but those are small returns on the effort.Sep 15 11:25
sosmanOk I'll bite.  How much of a drag is it to code Python in Eclipse on Windows vs Eclipse on Linux (for example).  I'm not ready to teach my kids vi just yet.Sep 15 11:25
iophkQuite a bit, though I observed it with C++Sep 15 11:26
MinceRdunno about eclipse, i don't use itSep 15 11:26
MinceRbut it should be easySep 15 11:26
MinceRso long as eclipse can edit and save files :>Sep 15 11:26
sosmanYeah but we are talking about kids right, not necessarily the tools I might use.Sep 15 11:26
DaemonFCit seems Amarok is using qtwebkit nowSep 15 11:26
DaemonFCand qtwebkit is stuffedSep 15 11:27
DaemonFCand it crashes Amarok when Amarok looks up the Wikipedia page for a bandSep 15 11:27
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 11:27
iophkWindows has kind of a soporific effect on both pupils and teachers.  Prolonged used causes glazed eyes and a dazed expression.Sep 15 11:27
iophkYou need systems that get out of the way.  Even OS X is an improvement there.Sep 15 11:27
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sosmanWell I'm not convinced.Sep 15 11:28
iophkI am. Sep 15 11:28
iophkI've seen it.Sep 15 11:28
sosmaniophk: I noticed that already - you are welcome to your view.Sep 15 11:28
iophkAnd you are welcome to my view too since you asked for it.Sep 15 11:29
sosmanActually I asked you to explain it but that's fine.Sep 15 11:29
iophkWell the short answer is that I've seen it first hand.Sep 15 11:29
iophk— with several groupsSep 15 11:30
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iophkToo much time is spent dorking around with Windows quirks.Sep 15 11:30
sosmanIf they are falling asleep maybe the Windows needs to be open a little.Sep 15 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lançada edição n.29 da Revista Espírito Livre! - http://bit.ly/mSuVSv latest edition of magazine, free download [pdf] #freeswSep 15 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Bill Gates an Asian Leader, Promotes #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53bip #wlfindSep 15 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Bill Gates an Asian Leader, Promotes Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53bip !wikileaksSep 15 11:30
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iophkGranted that was all with pre-KDE4Sep 15 11:31
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iophkI am skeptical whether KDE4 was an improvement over KDE3.xSep 15 11:31
iophkTorvalds is on the record in that regard. ;)Sep 15 11:31
sosmanYeah well I happen to use Gnome.Sep 15 11:31
DaemonFChe's also using Linux Mint, which means he's insaneSep 15 11:31
sosmanSo I can't really commentSep 15 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Good WikiLeaks panel with Christine Assange, Suelette Dreyfus, Julian Morror, Grace Morgan http://t.co/mTm9XLCaSep 15 11:32
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting audio/mpeg typeSep 15 11:32
DaemonFCthere seems to be no end to the bugs in Unity Sep 15 11:33
iophkYou can get the same dazed look in people using Linux if they have a sufficiently unproductive task involving lots of clicking but no results.  It takes about an hour.Sep 15 11:34
sosmanTo me coding doesn't involve much clicking.Sep 15 11:34
iophkDepends on the platform...Sep 15 11:35
MinceRwhat look do you get in people who have to use osx to accomplish a task osx is incapable of?Sep 15 11:35
iophkDidn't try.  The hardest thing I did with OS X was to have them work with Kerberos, that was all in the terminal.  Mostly they did not notice the OS even for other tasks.Sep 15 11:36
DaemonFCtheir Muon software center in KDE takes about 40 MB of RAMSep 15 11:37
DaemonFCthe Ubuntu software center, which ended up in Xubuntu as well, takes 170Sep 15 11:37
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 11:37
MinceR:>Sep 15 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Synthetic yeast allows on-demand evolution - http://bit.ly/rjkveo binary code, digital DNA... #genomicsSep 15 11:37
DaemonFCwhat's wrong with this picture?Sep 15 11:37
sosmanAnyway, I have tried to interest my kids in coding but you need to come up with a project that is not too overly demanding yet produces results that they can appreciate.Sep 15 11:37
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iophk.Sep 15 11:37
MinceRDaemonFC: that software that is less capable than Synaptic is much more bloated and yet they don't use Synaptic? :>Sep 15 11:37
DaemonFCMuon is actually capable of everything Synaptic isSep 15 11:38
iophkDaemonFC: is there any reason to use Muon over plain apt-get or even Synaptic?Sep 15 11:38
sosmanDaemonFC: boom boomSep 15 11:38
DaemonFCUbuntu Software  Center is notSep 15 11:38
DaemonFCUbuntu Software Center has about 60% of the features of Synaptic and over 300 times the RAM usageSep 15 11:39
DaemonFCseriouslySep 15 11:39
sosmanI obviously need to get out more.Sep 15 11:39
iophkWhat then is Ubuntu (or Canonical) trying to accomplish with the Software Center?Sep 15 11:39
DaemonFCto install a local package, Gdebi takes 3 seconds to finish loadingSep 15 11:39
DaemonFCUbuntu Software Center takes about 15Sep 15 11:39
DaemonFCI don't know, but it's a shitty thing to do to a "lightweight" desktop Sep 15 11:40
DaemonFCeverything else installed is fairly efficient or at least justifies the resources it usesSep 15 11:40
DaemonFCthen you have that useless piece of shit thereSep 15 11:40
DaemonFC300 times the size of SynapticSep 15 11:40
DaemonFCand crashes half the time you try to install a packageSep 15 11:40
DaemonFCand they have it wedged into the system so it's not possible to remove it fully, you will take out a lot of unrelated softwareSep 15 11:42
iophkWhat kind of dependencies does it have ?Sep 15 11:42
DaemonFCand if you try to get it out of the menu so you don't accidentally use it, you'll find that no freedesktop.org compliant menu editor sees it thereSep 15 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are UK civil servants giving more work to SMEs – or less? - http://bit.ly/r4aVuS the big, unanswered question; matters for #opensourceSep 15 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are civil servants giving more work to SMEs – or less? | Campaign4Change .::. Size~: 37.39 KBSep 15 11:42
DaemonFCyou have to manually edit the global menu file with a text editor to kill itSep 15 11:42
DaemonFCmake sure you back it up firstSep 15 11:42
DaemonFCit's easy to remove the wrong line and fuck the entire menuSep 15 11:43
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 11:43
DaemonFCiophk, it tries to get rid of apturl and some other thingsSep 15 11:43
DaemonFCit will remove the xubuntu desktop metapackageSep 15 11:43
DaemonFCwhich may break future distribution upgradesSep 15 11:43
iophkWeird.  That can't have been accidental.  It's too much of a mess.Sep 15 11:43
DaemonFCI've considered removing the damned thing then installing the xfce4 metaSep 15 11:44
DaemonFCwhich was apparently imported from DebianSep 15 11:44
DaemonFCso nothing accidentally removes the XFCE packagesSep 15 11:44
iophkMight be just as good to go back to DebianSep 15 11:44
DaemonFCthey've done some wickedly stupid things that have no business in XFCESep 15 11:45
DaemonFCthey're making a lightweight software center based on Muon for LXDESep 15 11:45
DaemonFCit uses GTK instead of QTSep 15 11:45
DaemonFCwhy can't they put that in Xubuntu?Sep 15 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Paga aims to bring mobile money services to millions of unbanked Nigerians - http://tnw.co/oqhnTU more interesting moves in #africaSep 15 11:45
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DaemonFCiophk, I don't think software center is meant to work well or provide featuresSep 15 11:46
DaemonFCit's meant to eventually be a DRM platform like SteamSep 15 11:46
iophkHmm.  That would not be useful for the communitySep 15 11:46
iophkAny writeup of that?Sep 15 11:47
DaemonFC\I don't think so, but you can tell what it's meant to beSep 15 11:47
DaemonFCit uses their "Ubuntu Single Sign On" login to let you buy software Sep 15 11:47
DaemonFCand there's a button that tells it to reinstall all the software you've "licensed"Sep 15 11:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83891798Sep 15 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 10:32:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz MS innovation centre :-)Sep 15 11:48
MinceRi've licensed lots of softwareSep 15 11:48
schestowitzsounds goodSep 15 11:48
MinceRusually under GPLSep 15 11:48
MinceR:>Sep 15 11:48
DaemonFCso it's really an NIH'd version of Click 'n Run from LinspireSep 15 11:48
DaemonFCit does the same things basicallySep 15 11:48
DaemonFCbut there's no charge for Ubuntu itselfSep 15 11:49
DaemonFCor to subscribe to install free softwareSep 15 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Microsoft Helps the US Inject Western Intellectual Monopolies Into Kazakhstan http://ur1.ca/53bmz #wlfind #KazakhstanSep 15 11:49
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DaemonFCbut there are proprietary programs for sale in thereSep 15 11:49
DaemonFCand they are linked to your Ubuntu accountSep 15 11:49
iophkPhotoshop in there  yet?Sep 15 11:49
DaemonFCno, but Crossover isSep 15 11:49
iophkAny other Adobe products?Sep 15 11:50
DaemonFCMuon in Kubuntu doesn't have the software sale platform yetSep 15 11:50
DaemonFCwhich may explain why it hasn't become obese like the Ubuntu versionSep 15 11:50
MinceRAdobe Trash is in the partners repo, but it's sadly necessary nowadaysSep 15 11:50
DaemonFCwell, you shouldn't install it from thereSep 15 11:50
DaemonFCit is the 32-bit versionSep 15 11:50
MinceR:>Sep 15 11:50
DaemonFCand it will litter your system with 32-bit crapSep 15 11:51
DaemonFCthe good thing about Oneiric is multi-arch, which is really a Debian thingSep 15 11:51
DaemonFCnow instead of pulling in hundreds of outdated libraries, it only pulls in the libraries you need, and they are all up to dateSep 15 11:51
DaemonFCso if you install 32-bit software, there's thatSep 15 11:52
DaemonFCia32-libs was last updated in 2009Sep 15 11:52
DaemonFCit's always out of dateSep 15 11:52
DaemonFCbefore that, the last update to it was in 2007Sep 15 11:52
DaemonFCFedora has always had what Debian/Ubuntu call multi-archSep 15 11:53
DaemonFCand has never littered the system with outdated 32-bit librariesSep 15 11:53
DaemonFCessentially Debian and Ubuntu still treat x86 32-bit as a foreign architecture Sep 15 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So many European cultural pejoratives do not stand up to examination. Savage, Vandal, Barbarian and much worse..Sep 15 11:54
DaemonFCbut they will show and install that stuff anywaySep 15 11:54
DaemonFCthe difference is denoted with :i386Sep 15 11:54
DaemonFCit's about time :)Sep 15 11:54
DaemonFCso if I want the 32-bit glibc, I tell it to install glibc:i386Sep 15 11:55
DaemonFCon fedora, you'd say glibc.i686Sep 15 11:55
DaemonFCthe i386 bit is technically wrongSep 15 11:56
DaemonFCUbuntu has been targeting i686 for a while nowSep 15 11:56
DaemonFCnone of this stuff would run on anything less than a Pentium 2Sep 15 11:56
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 11:56
MinceRthe relevant part of the architecture might well be the same thoughSep 15 11:57
iophkI still see P4's around in placesSep 15 11:57
MinceR(386-style protected mode, 32bit)Sep 15 11:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83884322 https://identi.ca/notice/83882922 https://twitter.com/homembit/status/114290026015244288Sep 15 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 08:54:44 UTC - Identi.ca: GO Ubuntu Unity Launcher Theme for Android is Awesome! http://ur1.ca/53azj for !Ubuntu aficionados with #android phonesSep 15 11:57
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 08:35:23 UTC - Identi.ca: #Perens tries to bridge gap on #copyright http://ur1.ca/53avk Big data meets Bruce Perens: An open source ‘covenant’ http://ur1.ca/53avuSep 15 11:57
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TechrightsBot-tr@homembit: @schestowitz Borat helped them again ?Sep 15 11:57
DaemonFCMinceR, it targets some small optimizations that were added to later x86-32 processorsSep 15 11:57
MinceRi know there were ISA changesSep 15 11:57
DaemonFCthe idea is that it may speed up the binary 1-2%Sep 15 11:58
DaemonFCand almost nobody will be using a 386 :PSep 15 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Microsoft Helps the US Inject Western Intellectual Monopolies Into Kazakhstan http://ur1.ca/53bmz #microsoft #monopolySep 15 12:00
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DaemonFCit may be my imagination, but the new x server seems to make kwin smootherSep 15 12:06
DaemonFCMinceR,  Do you know anything about that Ubuntu Customization Kit?Sep 15 12:10
DaemonFCI wonder if it would be possible to make my own crap-free Xubuntu with itSep 15 12:10
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTkwNQSep 15 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] That Piece Of Crap Hewlett-Packard Ad .::. Size~: 16.29 KBSep 15 12:12
DaemonFCout of all the shoddy advertisers he uses, he gets mad over this?Sep 15 12:13
DaemonFCit "renders the site unusable", to anyone without Adblock PlusSep 15 12:13
*MinceR shrugsSep 15 12:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/homembit/status/114292483856404481Sep 15 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@homembit: @schestowitz I almost killed a Microsoft Director here at the OOXML times, reminding him on a meeting about Kazakhstan support !Sep 15 12:15
schestowitzWow.Sep 15 12:15
*DaemonFC whistles the Borat themeSep 15 12:16
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 12:16
MinceR:>Sep 15 12:16
MinceRhow does that kill a m$ director?Sep 15 12:16
DaemonFCit's Kazakhstan Sep 15 12:16
DaemonFCfirst they make him wear a blue hat like the gaysSep 15 12:16
DaemonFCthen they take him out back and hang himSep 15 12:17
DaemonFC-BoratSep 15 12:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's an offensive themeSep 15 12:17
MinceRsure, but who said meetings about that support were held in Kazakhstan?Sep 15 12:17
schestowitzI have a colleague from that country, she's; clever and quite good lookingSep 15 12:17
DaemonFCthey don't make her live in a cage?Sep 15 12:17
schestowitzgtg, bblSep 15 12:18
DaemonFCMinceR, I don't know what it is about EuropeSep 15 12:18
DaemonFCyou can be ordered to pay someone money because you hurt their feelings in some of those countries?Sep 15 12:18
DaemonFCthat's just too muchSep 15 12:18
MinceRsomething like thatSep 15 12:19
MinceRbut it gets worseSep 15 12:20
MinceRsometimes they actually make laws to limit free speech (for example, laws against holocaust denial) to avoid hurting the feelings of some peopleSep 15 12:20
MinceR(of course that's more likely to accomplish the exact opposite of what they wanted...)Sep 15 12:21
DaemonFCI don't know how anyone can compare Canonical to Red HatSep 15 12:28
DaemonFCRed Hat doesn't have to stoop to stealing click pennies from all the referral links in the applications they shipSep 15 12:28
iophkHow are they stealing them?Sep 15 12:31
DaemonFCubufox takes the referral link from Mozilla and changes it so Canonical gets paid for all the google searches insteadSep 15 12:32
DaemonFCthat's also what they did to BansheeSep 15 12:32
DaemonFCthey took all the money that was supposed to go to GNOME from the Amazon MP3 storeSep 15 12:32
MinceRiophk: they replaced the amazon referral link in bansheeSep 15 12:32
MinceRi didn't know they ripped off mozilla as wellSep 15 12:33
DaemonFCif you disable or remove ubufox, it goes back to normalSep 15 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/9/2011: GNOME 3.2 Preview, Rudolf Elmer Interview http://ur1.ca/53bsm !techrightsSep 15 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 15/9/2011: GNOME 3.2 Preview, Rudolf Elmer Interview http://ur1.ca/53bsmSep 15 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Janet Street-Porter is saying about her life on the radio as I listen that if she had her life again she would do it all the same. #BollocksSep 15 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this encryption screencast is turning into a curse, just finished (hopefully) a decent take, although probs a tad longSep 15 12:40
MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/2011-01-27/Sep 15 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Janet Street Porter joined a Socialist Party and the Conservative party in the same year. What can you say despite her excuses?Sep 15 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @kocio: #FNP pilnie szuka programisty Wolnych Lektur w Wawie, podaj dalej! ur1.ca/53bz4Sep 15 12:50
DaemonFC"Sep 15 12:53
DaemonFC"Our goal with Unity is unprecedented ease of use, visual style and performance on the Linux desktop," Canonical and Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth wrote in his blog last month."Sep 15 12:53
DaemonFCthat's why it crashes all the time, doesn't work like standard desktops, hides menus you need to see, won't let things run in the system tray, and the software installer uses 200 MB of RAMSep 15 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Janet Street Porter describing sex "Squish squish job over." Honesty at least. This is a tragedy.Sep 15 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Janet Street porter "I have never been very good at telling the truth, I lie" This is supposed to be entertainment.Sep 15 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] researcher in al-Qaida raid paid £20,000 by police - http://bit.ly/neWN92 for downloading manual; plod unrepentant #waronterrorSep 15 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Janet Street Porter seems to think this has all been a bit of a giggle. Sociopath?Sep 15 13:02
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iophkhttp://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=24954Sep 15 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jobs at the Open Knowledge Foundation - http://bit.ly/rm1uMo several, in fact #openknowledgeSep 15 13:05
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MinceRmakes senseSep 15 13:06
MinceRafter all, osx has similar "features" and is often praised as "usable" and "stylish" :>Sep 15 13:06
DaemonFChttp://www.marcelgagne.com/comment/5459Sep 15 13:08
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DaemonFC"It's hard for me to love a product if every other computer I try to run it on fails. Does anyone on the planet actually run Unity successfully or are we being fed a lot of screenshots and told it exists. Seriously, I think there's a better chance of running into Elvis at the local Hyper Mart than finding a working Unity desktop!"Sep 15 13:08
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good WikiLeaks panel with Christine Assange, Suelette Dreyfus, Julian Morror, Grace Morgan http://t.co/mTm9XLCaSep 15 13:09
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting audio/mpeg typeSep 15 13:09
DaemonFCit's not that they have to go out of businessSep 15 13:10
DaemonFCit's that if they took some of their obscene profits and paid their workers a living wage, they'd probably have Americans working thereSep 15 13:10
DaemonFChmmm, they have to monitor everyone coming in to make sure they don't poison some nuts in a gift basketSep 15 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks may lead to the removal of Zimbabwian President Robert Mugabe: Turmoil in ZANU-PF http://t.co/Ot0t7cr2Sep 15 13:12
DaemonFCbut you can go into a grocery store and do whatever you wantSep 15 13:12
DaemonFCthat sounds like the government to meSep 15 13:12
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 15 13:13
DaemonFCMinceR, It's not whether or not the regulations workSep 15 13:13
DaemonFCit's whether or not they make you feel like the politicians are protecting youSep 15 13:14
DaemonFCoh look, they shut down a fruit and nut shop to protect me from terrorists poisoning the fgood supplySep 15 13:14
DaemonFCbut I could go into the produce department at Walmart and pour cyanide on the vegetablesSep 15 13:15
DaemonFC:PSep 15 13:15
ender_2600lolSep 15 13:15
ender_2600http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516Sep 15 13:15
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ender_2600windows 8 64-bit and shitSep 15 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Culture Secretary Hunt's speech - http://bit.ly/r6eoAE doesn't know different between theft & infringement; copies Sarkozy on "liberty"Sep 15 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: !Ubuntu Monospace Font reaches another development phase http://goo.gl/iR0jQSep 15 13:15
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ender_2600im going to try it out and find out what sucksSep 15 13:16
DaemonFCMetro is the Big Ass Phone remake of Big Ass Table, right?Sep 15 13:16
ender_2600metro is that dumb tile interfaceSep 15 13:16
ender_2600for fun, ill hook up my voltage meter to see how much more power my computer draws with win8Sep 15 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !GNOME Shell 3.1.91.1 Released With One-Click Installation Support For Extensions http://goo.gl/jMGlRSep 15 13:17
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ender_2600metro - almost gay Sep 15 13:21
ender_2600but not quiteSep 15 13:21
ender_2600LOLSep 15 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I learned something today. A little thing but non the less welcome. Having brought them all together I have far too many boxer shorts.Sep 15 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if it was a crime for politicians to knowingly misrepresent a situation, we'd have a constitutional nightmare in weeks; no MPs leftSep 15 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: UK Culture Secretary Hunt's speech - http://bit.ly/r6eoAE doesn't know different between theft & infringementSep 15 13:22
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ender_2600"Metrosexual is a neologism derived from metropolitan and heterosexual coined in 1994 describing a man (especially one living in an urban, post-industrial, capitalist culture) who spends a lot of time and money on shopping for his appearance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetrosexualSep 15 13:23
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ender_2600'who spends a lot of time and money on shopping for his appearanceSep 15 13:23
ender_2600accurateSep 15 13:23
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> Modern Task Manager, it's twice as big and offers half the information about running processesSep 15 13:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> therefore, modernSep 15 13:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> :)Sep 15 13:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> Modern Reader, because there's no such thing as Okular and EvinceSep 15 13:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> in fact, Modern Reader is so modern, it can't read epub or postscript Sep 15 13:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> :)Sep 15 13:26
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> and Internet Explorer 10 is so Modern, it supports the features of Firefox 4, aside from the decent extensions and running on only one version of Windows, and spying on the links, searches, and downloads of the userSep 15 13:27
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> :)Sep 15 13:27
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> The upgrade process to Big Ass Phone is as simple as any Windows upgrade has ever beenSep 15 13:27
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> throw out the PC you have that works fine, and buy a faster one to do the same things withSep 15 13:27
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> maybe someday they'll have a Modern Operating System Kernel, Modern C and C++ libraries, and Modern File SystemSep 15 13:27
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> but you can't rush this stuffSep 15 13:27
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> innovation takes time and effort http://www.jspenguin.org/imgs/billshit.gifSep 15 13:27
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DaemonFC:)Sep 15 13:27
MinceRyou forgot support for w3c standards thereSep 15 13:27
ender_2600not like firefox supports w3c properlySep 15 13:29
MinceRcompared to ie, it doesSep 15 13:29
ender_2600it fails acidSep 15 13:29
MinceRie fails acid _and_ real world webSep 15 13:30
ender_2600http://acid3.acidtests.org/Sep 15 13:30
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ender_2600chrome passesSep 15 13:30
MinceRi don't see chrome mentioned in the discussionSep 15 13:30
ender_2600you do see w3c and web standards mentionedSep 15 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] they just said on BPC radio 4 "scrumdidleyumptious"Sep 15 13:30
DaemonFCI don't think Chrome even counts as a browserSep 15 13:31
ender_2600I see similarities between firefox and windowsSep 15 13:31
DaemonFCit's a spyware tool and a security hazard from GoogleSep 15 13:31
ender_2600both lock the user in with extensions (or apps)Sep 15 13:32
DaemonFCyes, Windows is released as free softwareSep 15 13:32
DaemonFCit gets better every releaseSep 15 13:32
ender_2600firefox as branded, is not free softwareSep 15 13:32
MinceRi see similarities between ender_2600 and other trollsSep 15 13:32
ender_2600only the code isSep 15 13:32
DaemonFCit makes sure users can make it do what they wantSep 15 13:32
DaemonFCChrome illegally uses code all the timeSep 15 13:32
ender_2600prove itSep 15 13:32
DaemonFCthey're fond of taking code under one license and calling it Apache licensedSep 15 13:32
ender_2600prove it or stop lyingSep 15 13:33
DaemonFCtheir stagefright aac codec is stolen ISO demo codeSep 15 13:33
DaemonFCthey claim it to be Apache licensed, it's notSep 15 13:33
ender_2600link?Sep 15 13:33
DaemonFChttp://spectralhole.blogspot.com/2010/12/androids-stagefright-aac-encoder-or.htmlSep 15 13:33
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ender_2600androidSep 15 13:34
DaemonFCthere's also code in Chromium that has no licensing informationSep 15 13:34
DaemonFChttps://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28291Sep 15 13:35
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DaemonFCno licensing information doesn't mean it's free softwareSep 15 13:35
DaemonFCit means they have illegally used nonfree codeSep 15 13:35
DaemonFCthe author can still demand that they stop using itSep 15 13:35
DaemonFCor sue themSep 15 13:35
ender_2600no it doesn'tSep 15 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #OpenDisc - a collection of high quality Free #Software for #Windows http://theopendisc.com #sfd #romania #gnu #linux #microsoft #freedomSep 15 13:35
ender_2600it means YOU don't know what agreements they haveSep 15 13:35
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DaemonFCChromium is really bloated, it has a lot of bugsSep 15 13:36
DaemonFCthe extensions are a jokeSep 15 13:36
ender_2600given my options, its the bestSep 15 13:36
DaemonFCand the sandbox executable is a security hazardSep 15 13:36
ender_2600not reallySep 15 13:36
ender_2600integrates nicely with selinux, unlike all the other browsersSep 15 13:37
MinceRit used to cause kernel panics. not sure if it still does.Sep 15 13:37
ender_2600the only thing that can compete with chromium is opera and its not free softwareSep 15 13:37
MinceRso you claimSep 15 13:38
DrumScumugh, still surrounded with apple devices...Sep 15 13:38
ender_2600I've tried out all sorts of browsersSep 15 13:38
ender_2600since 1996Sep 15 13:38
DrumScumiStuff everywhere :-pSep 15 13:38
MinceRand now, ladies and gentlemen, ender_2600 will proclaim who is allowed to compete with his favorite browserSep 15 13:39
MinceR*drumroll*Sep 15 13:39
DrumScummomentSep 15 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When will we draw a distinction between technology and culture.Sep 15 13:39
*DrumScum drumrollsSep 15 13:39
MinceR:)Sep 15 13:39
*DrumScum is now known as DrumRollSep 15 13:39
DrumRolltrrrrrrrrrSep 15 13:39
DrumRolldzingSep 15 13:39
*DrumRoll is now known as DrumScumSep 15 13:39
ender_2600everyone can try competing but imo, chromium is the fastest and most standards compliantSep 15 13:40
ender_2600only other browser to pass acid are webkit based with less features, or operaSep 15 13:40
ender_2600if you can't pass acid3, you're not a modern browserSep 15 13:40
ender_2600now if I was mincer, I would be accusing others of trolling for disagreeing with my opinion on chromiumSep 15 13:41
iophkhttp://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hGhJUxebdPsEOUZ3O5S8f_6VhHwwSep 15 13:42
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ender_2600hes going to call me a  troll right nowSep 15 13:42
*ender_2600 waits for itSep 15 13:42
MinceR"i'm ender_2600 and i believe that if i troll and then i admit that i troll then nobody will realize that i'm trolling"Sep 15 13:43
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ender_2600seeSep 15 13:44
ender_2600mincer is predictableSep 15 13:44
ender_2600the lightbringer has spokenSep 15 13:45
MinceRi predict that ender_2600 will yet speak todaySep 15 13:46
ender_2600if he does not like a person, they are a troll or microsoft agent. if he doesn't like a product, it 'crashes randomly' or has random issues nobody else hasSep 15 13:46
ender_2600if i ask tough questions or disagree, 'ender_2600 is trolling'Sep 15 13:47
MinceRsee, ender_2600 is so predictableSep 15 13:47
DrumScumughSep 15 13:48
MinceRbut at least he likes randomly crashing productsSep 15 13:48
ender_2600they dont randomly crash for meSep 15 13:48
MinceRhe also likes random issues, because they make life interestingSep 15 13:48
DaemonFCI gave up on ChromiumSep 15 13:48
ender_2600just your liesSep 15 13:48
DaemonFCI install new versions sometimes to see if it works right nowSep 15 13:48
DaemonFCbut they never seem to fix the stuff that is really brokenSep 15 13:48
MinceRand how dare i dislike trolls and m$ agentsSep 15 13:48
MinceRthey're such great peopleSep 15 13:48
ender_2600I work for M$ now?Sep 15 13:48
DaemonFCthe extension platform sucks, but they did introduce a new x86 emulator, wow!Sep 15 13:48
MinceRender_2600: i don't know. do you?Sep 15 13:49
MinceR150133 < ender_2600> if he does not like a person, they are a troll or microsoft agent.Sep 15 13:49
ender_2600goforbes28 said i did, or was that gnufreexSep 15 13:49
DaemonFCit still can't block pop-unders, but they have an experimental global bar for UnitySep 15 13:49
ender_2600they must be right, activists don't lieSep 15 13:49
MinceRand of course if ender_2600 does not experience an issue then it does not existSep 15 13:50
ender_2600anyways, daemonfc - i want to change the subjet, make a random rant about somethingSep 15 13:50
DaemonFCI don't see how you could miss all the major issues of ChromeSep 15 13:50
MinceRender_2600: well, make a random attack on free softwareSep 15 13:50
MinceRDaemonFC: he's either lucky or he never uses crashe/crashiumSep 15 13:51
ender_2600maybe im not using a junk pcSep 15 13:51
ender_2600with faulty hardwareSep 15 13:51
DaemonFChow does faulty hardware come into whether extensions do their jobSep 15 13:51
DaemonFCor if it can block popundersSep 15 13:51
MinceRnext program: hardware buying guide by ender_2600 Sep 15 13:52
ender_2600i've seen faulty budget level motherboards crash stuffSep 15 13:52
DaemonFCWhatever runs Big Ass Phone with ChromeSep 15 13:52
MinceRspecifics, pleaseSep 15 13:52
ender_2600ECS, MSI, BIOSTARSep 15 13:52
ender_2600Foxconn Branded (non-oem)Sep 15 13:52
MinceR"i happen to experience no issues at the moment => great hardware; someone happens to experience issues => junk" is not sufficiently specificSep 15 13:52
ender_2600terrible motherboardsSep 15 13:53
ender_2600ASUS is getting worseSep 15 13:53
ender_2600there has to be a difference in hardware or operating systemSep 15 13:53
ender_2600perhaps debian really sucks thenSep 15 13:54
MinceRor a difference in usage patternsSep 15 13:54
MinceRor a difference in what packages happen to be installedSep 15 13:54
MinceRetc.Sep 15 13:54
MinceRor you just forget/deny your problemsSep 15 13:54
ender_2600perhapsSep 15 13:54
MinceRhell, even the data one feeds into the applications tends to differSep 15 13:55
ender_2600i've tried all kinds of distributions though and i haven't had stuff crash at allSep 15 13:55
ender_2600they all bundle different apps and libraries, different versions, etcSep 15 13:55
ender_2600even the first linux release of chromium didnt crash for meSep 15 13:56
ender_2600it was buggy though and slowSep 15 13:56
ender_2600i haven't ever seen a kernel panicSep 15 13:56
ender_2600even on windows, no blue screens of deathSep 15 13:57
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ender_2600when I worked at canada computers, people who had cheap hardware had lots of issuesSep 15 13:57
ender_2600thats where I get my opinion fromSep 15 13:57
DaemonFCwell, they probably had spyware or somethingSep 15 13:57
DaemonFCand didn't know you were going to overcharge and take advantageSep 15 13:58
ender_2600spyware isnt a problem when I run a livecd and it still fucks upSep 15 13:58
MinceRprobably the majority of people have cheap hardwareSep 15 13:58
ender_2600not really mincerSep 15 13:58
ender_2600most people purchase oem computers from a big brand nameSep 15 13:58
ender_2600HP/Compaq, Dell, etcSep 15 13:58
MinceRlike dell?Sep 15 13:58
MinceRdell is junkSep 15 13:58
ender_2600Dell uses oem intel motherboards, they are not bad at allSep 15 13:59
MinceRmy dell laptop had 4 hardware faults in 2 years and they decided to refuse to fix one of themSep 15 13:59
ender_2600other stuff they use can be cheapSep 15 13:59
MinceR(the shitty keyboard)Sep 15 13:59
ender_2600yeah and other brands are worseSep 15 13:59
ender_2600lenovo used to be awesome when it was IBMSep 15 14:00
MinceRactually ThinkPads are still awesomeSep 15 14:00
ender_2600now its shitty chinese quality bullshitSep 15 14:00
ender_2600my friend just bought oneSep 15 14:00
MinceRi've had my W700 for a while, without issuesSep 15 14:00
ender_2600he had one right before it that had so many issues and he wrote it off as just a bad batchSep 15 14:01
ender_2600his new one has problems tooSep 15 14:01
ender_2600ill get the modelSep 15 14:01
ender_2600x220Sep 15 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have kept piling things on this 8GB netbook for too long, but it keeps going better thasn it has a right to.Sep 15 14:02
ender_2600as far as I know, you're funding microsoft  by purchasing lenovo tooSep 15 14:02
ender_2600since they come with windows licensesSep 15 14:03
MinceRas far as i know, you can't buy a decent laptop without paying the m$ taxSep 15 14:03
MinceRonce i tried -- the result was a dHell that i stopped using after 2 yearsSep 15 14:03
MinceRmaybe in less sucky countries you can order them without the m$ taxSep 15 14:03
MinceRor as a corporationSep 15 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Honest. This weekend 8 GB netbook weeding.Sep 15 14:04
ender_2600my dell xps m1330 was ok while it lastedSep 15 14:04
ender_2600lolSep 15 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Internet censorship in Slovak republic | http://red.ht/rshFte #opengov #soit #gov2.0Sep 15 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Do not ever let your government go to war, all a peoples pleasures disappear it is a disaster except for the rich. They do not pay the bill.Sep 15 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @opensourceway Internet censorship in Slovak republic | http://red.ht/rshFte #opengov #soit #gov2.0Sep 15 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @toros #iloveubuntu: !Ubuntu Monospace Font reaches another development phase http://goo.gl/iR0jQSep 15 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @boycottnovell Cablegate: Microsoft Helps the US Inject Western Intellectual Monopolies Into Kazakhstan http://ur1.ca/53bmz #microsof ...Sep 15 14:20
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DaemonFChttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qapt/+bug/850902Sep 15 14:23
DaemonFCsighSep 15 14:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug #850902 in qapt (Ubuntu): “qapt does not install local packages” .::. Size~: 38.98 KBSep 15 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Paga aims to bring mobile money services to millions of unbanked Nigerians - http://tnw.co/oqhnTU more interesting moves i ...Sep 15 14:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paga aims to bring mobile money services to millions of unbanked Nigerians  - TNW Africa .::. Size~: 83.3 KBSep 15 14:24
DaemonFCryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ sudo apt-get install gdebi-kde Sep 15 14:25
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 14:25
DaemonFCwhich still worksSep 15 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] 'Bossie' Awards Crown FOSS' Best of Breed http://tinyurl.com/3ox8pal #opensourceSep 15 14:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: 'Bossie' Awards Crown FOSS' Best of Breed .::. Size~: 62.06 KBSep 15 14:30
DaemonFCnow it worksSep 15 14:31
DaemonFCright after I file a bugSep 15 14:31
DaemonFCfuckSep 15 14:31
DaemonFCX Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2Sep 15 14:32
DaemonFC  Extension:    141 (XInputExtension)Sep 15 14:32
DaemonFC  Minor opcode: 46 ()Sep 15 14:32
DaemonFC  Resource id:  0x12Sep 15 14:32
DaemonFCwhat exactly is this?Sep 15 14:32
DaemonFCI seem to get one every time I launch something from the terminalSep 15 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Hadn't heard?! Early bird registrations are now open for #LCA2012 linux.conf.au! bit.ly/p0bbql #linux #opensource #conference #AUSep 15 14:32
DaemonFCOpera can now mimic GTK 3Sep 15 14:35
DaemonFCand it supports ECMA-262 5.1 fullySep 15 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @tmarble Is it beer-o-clock yet? :) !FOSDEM 2012 dates chosen: Feb 4-5 https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2011-September/00131 ...Sep 15 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft: No Windows Server for ARM (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/p3IU5MSep 15 14:37
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft: No Windows Server for ARM - Computerworld .::. Size~: 132.55 KBSep 15 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "N9 is generations ahead? it is not just 5 as the iPhone... but numbered as 9!" #LOLSep 15 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @freemjd there must be a way to combat this problem. Some support for promise of Freedom plan?Sep 15 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] a SUV crashed into the middle barrier and I had to take evasive measures... braking with petrol on the road is difficult!Sep 15 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Google Buys 1,023 IBM Patents to Bolster Defense of Android http://tinyurl.com/6arq9q3 #linuxSep 15 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Buys 1,023 IBM Patents to Bolster Defense of Android - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 109.54 KBSep 15 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] How Do I Get Cool Desktop Effects in #Linux? http://lifehacker.com/5840175/how-do-i-get-cool-desktop-effects-in-linuxSep 15 14:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Do I Get Cool Desktop Effects in Linux? .::. Size~: 141.02 KBSep 15 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Crowdsourcing Solutions: Embracing Open Source Innovation http://tinyurl.com/3sx6xf7 #opensourceSep 15 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I would at this point go for an hour on Fallout new Vegas but I shot an omerta thug and will they the put it behind us? No.Sep 15 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crowdsourcing Solutions: Embracing Open Source Innovation | IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law .::. Size~: 136.74 KBSep 15 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wars end in death and statues. Rioting ends with prisons sentences and slight reform.Sep 15 15:05
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> I'm sure plenty of people will hate Big Ass Phone / Vista 8, but since there is no way to get rid of it, they'll just bend over and take itSep 15 15:07
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> and buy a new printer next time they're outSep 15 15:07
MinceRbut will they convince themselves that they like it?Sep 15 15:08
DaemonFCI've never liked buying a new printer just because they stopped making drivers so I'd have to buy a new printerSep 15 15:09
DaemonFCit seems to happen regularly with WindowsSep 15 15:09
MinceRwhy not buy a postscript printer and drive it from gnu/linux?Sep 15 15:10
MinceRor even a postscript network printer and send print jobs to it via IPP and/or web interface?Sep 15 15:10
DaemonFCmy HP printer is supported by a driver licensed under the GPLSep 15 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Del Shannon - Runaway (Rare Stereo Version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziLagAgoPCE < remember this as a theme to a serie. #love the songSep 15 15:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Del Shannon - Runaway (Rare Stereo Version)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 101.82 KBSep 15 15:10
DaemonFCanyway, I feel it will probably work until it physically failsSep 15 15:11
DaemonFCwith Windows it would work until they decided to stop making driversSep 15 15:12
DaemonFCbbiab :)Sep 15 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Can someone explain to me how this century is different from the 19th? #Mightisright.Sep 15 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Starting Friday 16 Sept, livestream the CC Global Summit! More info: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Global_Summit_2011 #ccsummit2011Sep 15 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Global Summit 2011 - CC Wiki .::. Size~: 23.49 KBSep 15 15:20
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DaemonFCFedora 16 is still brokenSep 15 15:24
DaemonFC:PSep 15 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Patent Overhaul Won't Help Innovators - http://bit.ly/oysMvy no surprises here, but explains the issues clearlySep 15 15:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. Patent Overhaul Won't Help Innovators - Rob Wheeler and James Allworth - Harvard Business Review .::. Size~: 53.56 KBSep 15 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites will be upgrading to 1.0.0 over the weekend. Significant downtime expected. http://ur1.ca/53d0oSep 15 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Urge the EU Parliament to Stand For Net Neutrality - http://bit.ly/orKJw8 again </sigh> #netneutralitySep 15 15:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Upgrading Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites to 1.0.0rc1 | StatusNet .::. Size~: 14.37 KBSep 15 15:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Urge the EU Parliament to Stand For Net Neutrality | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 32.12 KBSep 15 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Less than 4 generations ago and our idiot ancestors are killing each other. WW2 #EUSep 15 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Drugs and Copyright: A Fable - http://bit.ly/pG2mig what if we could print drugs as easily as we copy files? #piracy #libertySep 15 15:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Drugs and Copyright: A Fable .::. Size~: 47.21 KBSep 15 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HathiTrust Single-Handedly Sinks #Orphan Works Reform - http://bit.ly/rk4U5v should have been done as open projectSep 15 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Laboratorium: HathiTrust Single-Handedly Sinks Orphan Works Reform .::. Size~: 27.13 KBSep 15 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Despite your politics. When has a politician obviously failed..When they resort to the military and butchery.Sep 15 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Maemo community loses Gary "lcuk" Birkett http://lwn.net/Articles/459086/rssSep 15 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Maemo community loses Gary "lcuk" Birkett [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.61 KBSep 15 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Newzbin2 builds #BT block-averting measures into its sw - http://bit.ly/q1P4IH "it took coders less than two months to defeat the ban"Sep 15 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French Prime Minister encourages greater use of open formats - http://bit.ly/n5BN75 great; but what exactly does "open" mean? RF or FRAND?Sep 15 16:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Newzbin2 builds block-averting measures into its software .::. Size~: 31.4 KBSep 15 16:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: French Prime Minister encourages greater use of open formats - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.75 KBSep 15 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A year after shutdown, #LimeWire still hugely popular - http://bit.ly/pB6YIg would have been good for licensed service?Sep 15 16:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A year after shutdown, LimeWire still hugely popular — Online Video News .::. Size~: 68.81 KBSep 15 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Zimbabwe moves to shutdown newspapers, internet to contain WikiLeaks exposures | CSMonitor http://t.co/gzt73avMSep 15 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An interstellar bummer - http://bit.ly/n8uhXP "I don't think we're ever getting off this rock"; nope - maybe we should look after it...Sep 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An interstellar bummer – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.42 KBSep 15 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Number of people in US without health insurance climbs - http://cnnmon.ie/n1QQ2k to nearly 50 million; staggeringSep 15 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @Codepope indeed; but did you ever see Charlie Stross's calculations about the energy required to reach another star? unlikely to happen...Sep 15 16:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Number of people without health insurance in U.S. climbs - Sep. 13, 2011 .::. Size~: 61.63 KBSep 15 16:20
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83909689Sep 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 13:44:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz - Canadian school kills wifi over WHO concerns - http://ur1.ca/53cqgSep 15 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ontario school cuts Wi-Fi over safety concerns http://ur1.ca/53cqg via qubitarkhive >> about time? http://ur1.ca/53dej http://ur1.ca/53dekSep 15 16:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Wi-Fi, Cellphones, and Our Health .::. Size~: 31.39 KBSep 15 16:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Cellphones Harm Health, Says New Study .::. Size~: 31.24 KBSep 15 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moyo loses sleep over !Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/53deu another good reason to defend !wlSep 15 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Nigeria: The Rage and Fever of WikiLeaks | AllAfrica http://t.co/sovDMopQSep 15 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Received a #spam with subject WILL FOR HUMANITY and my first thought was "Good idea, we probably need one."Sep 15 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When will #Slashdot stop promoting the Windows that does not even exist yet? Is it a PR outlet now?Sep 15 16:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moyo loses sleep over Wikileaks - Newsday: Everyday News for Everyday People .::. Size~: 30.09 KBSep 15 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exclusive: Ziff Davis Offering Money To Sites To Secretly Track Users http://ur1.ca/53dff they also do a lot of busienss with MSFTSep 15 16:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exclusive: Ziff Davis Offering Money To Sites To Secretly Track Users .::. Size~: 27.24 KBSep 15 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Reuters: Blackberry says would close messenger service in UK if ordered to at times of civil unrest http://t.co/mPegT7K4Sep 15 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Cablegate empowers the people http://ur1.ca/53dgiSep 15 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blackberry would close UK service in unrest if ordered http://ur1.ca/53dgk Black bury?Sep 15 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] This is an autoreply: I am currently not available. Please leave your message, and I will get back to you as soon as possible.Sep 15 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: allAfrica.com: Nigeria: The Rage and the Fever of Wikileaks .::. Size~: 55.8 KBSep 15 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blackberry would close UK service in unrest if ordered | Reuters .::. Size~: 94.45 KBSep 15 16:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83922062Sep 15 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 15:41:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz when the next version that doesn't exist yet is announced.Sep 15 16:43
schestowitzExactly, but Slashdot makes it look like that exists. PR.Sep 15 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Business always first. Ask IBM and Microsoft.Sep 15 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ave/@ave] RT @schestowitz Blackberry would close UK service in unrest if ordered http://ur1.ca/53dgk Black bury?Sep 15 16:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blackberry would close UK service in unrest if ordered | Reuters .::. Size~: 94.45 KBSep 15 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] It is accomplished: https://www.redhat.com/archives/lohit-devel-list/2011-September/msg00008.html #Lohit #fonts #GPL #SIL #OFL #heehawSep 15 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: [Lohit-devel-list] Relicensing Lohit fonts .::. Size~: 3.35 KBSep 15 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Urge the #EU Parliament to Stand For #Net #Neutrality → http://www.laquadrature.net/en/urge-the-eu-parliament-to-stand-for-net-neutralitySep 15 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Urge the EU Parliament to Stand For Net Neutrality | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 32.11 KBSep 15 16:55
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MinceRhttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/262603_700b.jpgSep 15 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Commission buys #Microsoft for 20 years without competition - http://bit.ly/nUMLv4 shameful behavious #procurement #lockinSep 15 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Commission buys Microsoft for 20 years without competition - 9/15/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 70.25 KBSep 15 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Why make a new open source software license? MPL 2.0 (part 3) by @tieguy | http://ow.ly/6viPv #mozilla #apacheSep 15 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why make a new open source software license?  MPL 2.0 (part 3) | opensource.com .::. Size~: 48.87 KBSep 15 17:14
DaemonFCprobably because the MPL 1 was written by a Netscape lawyer while they were a subsidiary of AOLSep 15 17:14
DaemonFCjust a guessSep 15 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #copyright revolution at US art museums - http://bit.ly/nKbuqR #pd high-res images: kudos. NB, National Portait Gallery (v @Copycense)Sep 15 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I thought Torchwood was a USA teaser. It turns out according to Captain Jack that it would not have happened but for USA. So be it end it.Sep 15 17:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The copyright revolution at US art museums |  Tyler Green: Modern Art Notes | ARTINFO.com .::. Size~: 45.93 KBSep 15 17:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Azmodean/status/114367281844334592Sep 15 17:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Azmodean: @schestowitz yes, MS and tech news have been doing this as long as I've been following tech (pre win95), overpromise and underdeliver, late.Sep 15 17:17
schestowitzCourt evidence shows this to be deliberate at MicrosoftSep 15 17:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wakizaki/status/114363727398182912Sep 15 17:18
TechrightsBot-tr@wakizaki: RT @schestowitz: #Cablegate empowers the people http://t.co/ynf46Vx9 (because it serves as a "check & balance" of sorts)Sep 15 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xbox 360 Cloud Edition: Microsoft Probed Over Office 360 Failures http://ur1.ca/53dnr #xbox #office #microsoft #azure #hotmailSep 15 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Xbox 360 Cloud Edition: Microsoft Probed Over Office 360 Failures http://ur1.ca/53dnr #asa #uk #advertising #deception #pr #dnsSep 15 17:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xbox 360 Cloud Edition: Microsoft Probed Over Office 360 Failures | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.73 KBSep 15 17:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xbox 360 Cloud Edition: Microsoft Probed Over Office 360 Failures | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.73 KBSep 15 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shouldn't Unilateral Retroactive Copyright Extension Mean #Copyright Is Void? - http://bit.ly/qZ0XwM they broke the contract, so yes...Sep 15 17:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shouldn't Unilateral Retroactive Copyright Extension Mean Copyright Is Void? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 52.35 KBSep 15 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Stuff the BPC's north american sales. We should not have to pay our license fee to produce more USA culture for Britain. #Torchwood #RIPSep 15 17:24
iophkhttp://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/11/local/la-me-arabic12-2010feb12Sep 15 17:25
TechrightsBot-trEmpty reply from server ( http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/11/local/la-me-arabic12-2010feb12 )Sep 15 17:25
schestowitz^_^Sep 15 17:26
schestowitz"Sep 15 17:27
schestowitzNicholas George planned to brush up on his Arabic vocabulary during a flight in August from Philadelphia to California, where he was to start his senior year at Pomona College. So he carried some Arabic-English flashcards in his pocket to study on the plane.Sep 15 17:27
schestowitz But those flashcards changed George's life far beyond the classroom. The 22-year-old from Pennsylvania is speaking out against what he contends are abuses by federal authorities in airport security measures.Sep 15 17:27
schestowitz"Sep 15 17:27
schestowitziophk: he has a beard !!!Sep 15 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla Launches Open Badges Project - http://bit.ly/pxUA6n oh please: what next? an Internet naughty step?Sep 15 17:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Launches Open Badges Project | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 25.46 KBSep 15 17:29
iophkthat'll do it these daysSep 15 17:29
schestowitzGiven some things I see here, I'd be worriedSep 15 17:31
schestowitzAnd the white supremacists too are becoming a problemSep 15 17:31
schestowitzSo I don't see why Arabic text is what worried themSep 15 17:31
schestowitzXenophobia and desire for fame (by infamy) is also a threatSep 15 17:32
iophkEven T-shirts will worry themSep 15 17:32
schestowitzWhich is why I'm strognly against publishing details about mass murderersSep 15 17:32
schestowitziophk:that was a few years bavkSep 15 17:32
schestowitz!google transformer tshirt teroistSep 15 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - T5 Transformers t-shirt bust: Shock snap • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/transformers_bust/Sep 15 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - gee whiz - Geekologie - Gadgets, Gizmos, and Awesome | http://www.geekologie.com/mt/mt-search.cgi%3Fblog_id%3D1%26tag%3Dgee%2520whizSep 15 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Optimus Prime - Tech Digest | http://www.techdigest.tv/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.fcgi%3FIncludeBlogs%3D2%26tag%3DOptimus%2520Prime%26limit%3D20Sep 15 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - fayfreethinkers.com • View topic - Transformers Fans: New ... | http://fayfreethinkers.com/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D10%26t%3D4812Sep 15 17:32
schestowitz!google transformers shirt airportSep 15 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Transformers shirt gets jet ban - The Sun | http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1234193.eceSep 15 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Man threatened with arrest at Heathrow for wearing Transformers T ... | http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23489284-man-threatened-with-arrest-at-heathrow-for-wearing-transformers-t-shirt.doSep 15 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Geek Poser Almost Arrested at Airport for Transformers Shirt | /Film | http://www.slashfilm.com/geek-poser-almost-arrested-at-airport-for-transformers-shirt/Sep 15 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Gun T-shirt 'was a security risk' | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7431640.stmSep 15 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google’s IBM Patents Feast: Good or Bad? http://ur1.ca/53dqy collective opinion from #techrightsSep 15 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Google’s IBM Patents Feast: Good or Bad? http://ur1.ca/53dqy collective opinion from !techrights re #swpats from #ibm and #googleSep 15 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was worried when people were saying Identi.ca. was dead, @bkuhn cited the lack of one persons dents as a sign of this? If it depends on 1?Sep 15 17:40
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google’s IBM Patents Feast: Good or Bad? | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.85 KBSep 15 17:41
*amarsh04 is listening to the 30th anniversary CD re-release of "Icehouse"Sep 15 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/459088/rssSep 15 17:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thursday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.23 KBSep 15 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LSS: The kernel hardening roundtable http://lwn.net/Articles/458805/rssSep 15 17:44
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 Moved TemporarilySep 15 17:44
schestowitzLOL https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/114378128905863168Sep 15 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz Hi; What is your best link of wikileaks articles showing MS talking to leaders of countries and embassies about Windows?Sep 15 17:48
schestowitzThe Microsofter againSep 15 17:48
schestowitzI'll ignore for nowSep 15 17:48
DaemonFChttps://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/4.16.0Sep 15 17:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4.16.0 : unity .::. Size~: 114.99 KBSep 15 17:50
DaemonFC48 bugs fixed since 4.14Sep 15 17:50
DaemonFCand only a million more to goSep 15 17:50
DaemonFC:DSep 15 17:50
DaemonFCschestowitz, figure they'll ever beat it into shape?Sep 15 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28644Sep 15 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] sudo yum remove epiphany!Sep 15 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Windows 8: Here Comes Another Football (Comic) - http://dthin.gs/nD5EpW simultaneously funny, wise & sadSep 15 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FBI recruitment or just news? [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/UlnNI.jpgSep 15 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 20.87 KBSep 15 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8: Here Comes Another Football (Comic) - Nitrozac and Snaggy - Voices - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 75.41 KBSep 15 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Cameron likes Libyan rebels, not British rebels http://ur1.ca/53dt4Sep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fresh wind for openSUSE (The H) http://lwn.net/Articles/459113/rssSep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany - http://bit.ly/qFoARY important stuff (v @beabusaniche) #cc #licensingSep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on several sources (not most reliable), #Libya' needed' regime change when it made the 'mistake' of seeking ME/N.Africa exit from USD.Sep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When a country makes a the "war threat" of trading oil not in USD, the World Bank/IMF cabal goes ballistic, literally.Sep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xamarin and #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53du1 for those who didn't know alreadySep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Xamarin and #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53du1 #mono #dotnet #monodroid #monotouch #swpats #trojan #novellSep 15 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What do you call NATO in #Libya? What ever NATO and their news services tell you to call them.Sep 15 17:55
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TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 16:51:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I have not read it but it was like British and Polish unions under Thatcher.Sep 15 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] European Commission buys Microsoft for 20 years without competition http://ur1.ca/53dvm Disgrace, if you ask me #procurement #failSep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Even Microsoft MVP de Icaza joins the buzz and the PR/advertising for Microsoft's Vista 8 http://ur1.ca/53dwf #vista8 #xamarin #monoSep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @evan: yes, this is clearly my problem...Sep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #WaggenerEdstrom must be very busy googlebombing Vista 8 at the moment http://ur1.ca/53dx7 will it bribe bloggers w/ laptops like last time?Sep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Huzzah! Windows 8 join the indifference.Sep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Arrived at my MIT department's welcome back party 45 minutes, and one week, late.Sep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For #Vista, Microsoft used Edelman to bribe bloggers ('free' laptops wi/ PR strings).For #Vista7 Waggener Edstrom did it http://ur1.ca/53dx7Sep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Let's place our bets now.How many prominent bloggers will Microsoft bribe this year for #Vista8 .200? Has the transaction been made already?Sep 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is no "theory" about Microsoft bribing and AstroTurfing for new versions of Windows. It's a proven fact, done every time.Sep 15 18:04
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TechrightsBot-tr@Ignoramus, but u can call me Mike (inscius)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 17:07:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz To save their hard earned (cough) money they will first see the fanbois publish for free, then they will bribe? ;)Sep 15 18:11
schestowitzThat's the reverse bribe. When you seed bribe you encourage people to work for the change to get one.Sep 15 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many writers will the Microsoft PR team intimidate & defame this time (for committing the crime of dissing VIsta 8)? Happens every time.Sep 15 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Partial Index: Summary of Bribed Sites, Journalists, and Bloggers (Vista 7) http://ur1.ca/53dyu very partial listSep 15 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's Food4AstroTurf campaign, only in Korea (weak regulations) http://ur1.ca/53dyx Microsoft Feeds Hundreds of Korean Bloggers...Sep 15 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Aggressive Marketing for Vista 7 http://ur1.ca/53dz7 see wiki page for current http://ur1.ca/4yz5h and vapourware http://ur1.ca/00b7eSep 15 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Say nice things about Microsoft and maybe you too will be bribed by MSFT through W-E/#Edelman to write favourable review http://ur1.ca/53dx7Sep 15 18:12
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/uTorrent-server-delivered-malware-for-two-hours-on-Tuesday-1342683.htmlSep 15 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #SMH over #Win8 hype. It's 2011, people. Sooner we get over the very sad, costly and uninteresting #Microsoft phase, the better.Sep 15 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: European Commission buys #Microsoft for 20 years without competition - http://bit.ly/nUMLv4 shameful behavious #procurementSep 15 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya. Hapless Sarkozy & Cameron are the new western bully boys on the ground. They do not know who they are even supporting.Sep 15 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is buying reviews and maybe comments about Windows 8 these days (some are outsourced). Be suspicious of everything you see/read.Sep 15 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Say nice things about "Windows 8". Quickly. Maybe you too will be assigned a bribe/present. Microsoft has a big budget allocated to it.Sep 15 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thing twice before bashing Windows 8. Your publications advertising budget might suffer greatly if you do. Retaliatory tactics=not illegal.Sep 15 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CentOS 5.7 Screen Shots http://ur1.ca/53e15 its' really here right now. Now some alpha-grade vapourwareSep 15 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Commission buys Microsoft for 20 years without competition - 9/15/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 70.25 KBSep 15 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] UN.....who has used their veto the most...USA. If any other country had done the same the UN would not exist.Sep 15 18:19
schestowitz"A developers' conference is something similar to a meeting of evangelistic Christians or Islamic fundamentalists - no non-believers or sceptics are around, the cheers are raucous and come without prompting, and all the focus is on the man on the stage. Listening to nearly three hours of spiel on the web from the Microsoft BUILD developers conference this morning reminded me of this."Sep 15 18:21
schestowitzThat's the reverse bribe. When you seed bribe you encourage people to work for the change to get one.http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/49732-windows-8-will-be-wonderful-even-if-its-pretty-lateSep 15 18:21
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83935252Sep 15 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr@Ignoramus, but u can call me Mike (inscius)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 17:21:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I seen so many partial to MS for more than 20 years, I often wondered if they were stupid or corrupted. A potent mix maybe.Sep 15 18:25
schestowitzCan be both, not either orSep 15 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] No Flash for Metro-style Windows 8 apps (MSDN): http://bit.ly/pXyB9lSep 15 18:29
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iophkThe sooner Flash goes away, the better.  Though I have no illusions that M$ is doing that to help anyone.Sep 15 18:36
iophkIt's an extra layer of insecuritySep 15 18:36
iophkand lock-inSep 15 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tim Anderson, whom Microsoft gave a laptop to promote Vista 7, has just posted Vista 8 advert in The Reg.Maybe he can get another laptop :-)Sep 15 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !capitalism, they want us bright as the sun but not to ask any awkward questions.Sep 15 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When will the vapourware be out? "[M]y guess is 2013 at the earliest." http://ur1.ca/53blhSep 15 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pantech Breakout Headed to Verizon with 4G LTE on September 22 http://ur1.ca/53e3g #android #linuxSep 15 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What are we doing wrong? Why is fighting and violence such a good idea for our very young citizens?Sep 15 18:37
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schestowitzDailyFail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036049/Libyan-dissidents-house-arrest-following-Tony-Blairs-deal-desert.htmlSep 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libyan dissidents put under house arrest following Tony Blair's 'deal in the desert'  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 128.39 KBSep 15 18:39
schestowitziophk: +1Sep 15 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Comprehensive Antibiotic Resistance Database http://ur1.ca/53e5a http://arpcard.mcmaster.ca @nescentSep 15 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CARD | Kaboodle .::. Size~: 23.82 KBSep 15 18:42
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iophkyoutube is moving to WebM soonSep 15 18:44
schestowitzIt's quite readySep 15 18:45
schestowitzYoun an opt inSep 15 18:45
schestowitzGoogle waits till browsers people use all support the formatSep 15 18:45
iophkI tried it but most videos did not have WebMSep 15 18:45
schestowitzAnd tests fallbacks, tooSep 15 18:45
iophkit also required javascript :(Sep 15 18:45
schestowitziophk: maybe the older onesSep 15 18:45
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83937944Sep 15 18:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Ignoramus, but u can call me Mike (inscius)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 17:43:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I meant in diff individuals. Heavy fanboi-ism for a person with public money to spend, isn't that bordering on corruption?Sep 15 18:46
iophkI look forward to see more WebMSep 15 18:48
schestowitztechbytes uses itSep 15 18:59
schestowitzsince juneSep 15 18:59
iophkyes, thanksSep 15 18:59
iophkyou're on top of things there as elsewhereSep 15 18:59
schestowitzyoutube might no longer be a distry work in the fsfSep 15 18:59
schestowitz!google fsfs thank google webm\Sep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 451 CAOS Theory » Is it time to rethink the open source license ... | http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/05/25/license-approval-process/Sep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Blonging for Freedom | http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/blogs/lxo/Sep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Various Licenses and Comments about Them - GNU Project - Free ... | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.htmlSep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - GNS3 • A new distrbution of Free Software for WIndows ... | http://www.gns3.net/phpBB/topic3848.htmlSep 15 19:00
schestowitz!google fsf thank google webmSep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google's updated WebM license — Free Software Foundation ... | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/googles-updated-webm-licenseSep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Free Software Foundation statement on WebM and VP8 — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-statement-on-webm-and-vp8Sep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - FSF Announces Support For WebM - Slashdot | http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl%3Fsid%3D11/01/21/0510215Sep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Re: VP8 and WebM--Thank you, Google! (P.S. Let's talk) | Open ... | http://www.opensource.org/node/521Sep 15 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why did @GovernorPerry execute an innocent man? http://bit.ly/qQ646ASep 15 19:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rick Perry presided over the execution of an innocent man. The media needs to ask him about it. .::. Size~: 14.91 KBSep 15 19:01
iophk"Google just updated the license for their WebM Project to make it GPL-compatible."Sep 15 19:01
schestowitzthey tried to gentle prod it to make minor amendmentsSep 15 19:02
schestowitzNow Google generally has wide supportSep 15 19:02
iophkhttp://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/08/03/perry_willingham_surveySep 15 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "It takes balls to execute an innocent man" - War Room - Salon.com .::. Size~: 65.25 KBSep 15 19:03
schestowitzExcept from the Microsoft/Apptle cartel and their patent troll, MPEG-LASep 15 19:03
schestowitziophk: Sep 15 19:03
iophkIIRC, Nokia is also pushing MPEG-LASep 15 19:03
schestowitz!ggoogle califonia billion execute 14 peopleSep 15 19:03
schestowitz!google california billion execute 14 peopleSep 15 19:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoogleSep 15 19:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - California's death row: $4 billion, few executions - Jun. 20, 2011 | http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/20/news/economy/california_death_penalty/index.htmSep 15 19:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - California lawmakers OK $14 billion in budget cuts, loans | 89.3 KPCC | http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2011/03/18/18317/ca-budget-cutsSep 15 19:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - California Borrows $5.4 Billion As Protection In Case U.S. Defaults | http://www.businessinsider.com/california-could-run-out-of-money-if-congress-doesnt-raise-the-debt-ceiling-2011-7Sep 15 19:03
schestowitzsee [2] for statsSep 15 19:04
iophkYes, a wasteSep 15 19:04
schestowitzabout $250 to execute each personSep 15 19:04
schestowitzmillionSep 15 19:04
schestowitz250 millionSep 15 19:04
schestowitzsince the 80s, maybe 78' IIRCSep 15 19:04
iophkYou could send them up to the space station for less than thatSep 15 19:04
schestowitzMost expensive homocide everSep 15 19:05
schestowitzAnd the parents/family of the VICTIMS who watched the execution... they TOO were vocally against it recentlySep 15 19:05
schestowitzSome of them anywaySep 15 19:05
schestowitzNot really feeling like getting justice for the loved ones or getting him/her back by killing yet another personSep 15 19:05
schestowitzLike.... DUH!Sep 15 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ogg <video> seems to work, finally :) ♻ @bramalab: final preparations for tomorrow's #CC Summit Streaming underway, stay tuned ur1.ca/53dzgSep 15 19:05
iophkLIve stream is fine if you're in the same time zone.Sep 15 19:06
schestowitzGoogle YouTube supports CC nowSep 15 19:07
schestowitzI made all the techbytes videos Creative Commons when they made this option available around JulySep 15 19:07
schestowitzGoogle does some things rightSep 15 19:07
schestowitzAnd enables users to do stuff in exchange for info/adsSep 15 19:07
iophkThey opened their data center in Hamina recentlySep 15 19:07
iophkHard to find news about it.Sep 15 19:07
schestowitzAre they recruiting?Sep 15 19:07
schestowitzMaybe they can spoon Nokia devsSep 15 19:08
iophkI assume so.Sep 15 19:08
iophkIf I were them I'd try to catch all the former Nokia engineers and put them on staffSep 15 19:08
schestowitzALso save cooling billsSep 15 19:08
schestowitzMaybe they can hire AriSep 15 19:08
iophkIt's water cooledSep 15 19:08
schestowitz!google ari nokia webosSep 15 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ari Jaaksi, first MeeGo now webOS « DGui | http://dgui.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/ari-jaaksi-first-meego-now-webos/Sep 15 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Palm Hires Ex-Nokia Meego Chief Ari Jaaski | The #1 HP webOS ... | http://www.precentral.net/palm-hires-ex-nokia-meego-chief-ari-jaaskiSep 15 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Ari Jaaksi's Blog | http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/Sep 15 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Palm lands former Nokia Meego chief Ari Jaaksi, plus Samsung, HP ... | http://venturebeat.com/2010/10/15/palm-lands-former-nokia-meego-chief-ari-jaaksi-plus-samsung-hp-talent/Sep 15 19:08
iophkIIRC it is near a hydro station and a nuclear plantSep 15 19:09
schestowitz!google webos killedSep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - H-P's TouchPad, WebOS killed — and Apple is the main suspect ... | http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/7158249-452/h-ps-touchpad-and-webos-have-been-killed-and-apple-is-the-main-suspect.htmlSep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - It's Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones And The TouchPad ... | http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/18/its-official-hp-kills-off-webos-phones-and-the-touchpad/Sep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - HP Kills TouchPad, Puts WebOS in Hibernation | Gadget Lab | Wired ... | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/08/hp-webos-tablet-touchpadSep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Why HP killed its webOS devices | This is my next... | http://thisismynext.com/2011/08/18/hp-killed-webos-devices/Sep 15 19:09
schestowitz!google hp hires microsoft vice president head of software 2010Sep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - HP Dumps Vista 7 for Linux, Hires Vice President From Microsoft as ... | http://techrights.org/2010/07/24/entryism-hp-lenovo/Sep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 20-Year Microsoft Veteran Becomes HP Vice President in Charge of ... | http://techrights.org/2010/05/12/bill-veghte-entryism/Sep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - HP Hires Nokia Meego Executive to Head Up WebOS - Hewlett ... | http://www.channelinsider.com/c/a/Hewlett-Packard/HP-Hires-Nokia-Meego-Executive-to-Head-Up-WebOS-199441/Sep 15 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - HP CEO Search: Five Insiders, Five Outsiders and Five Way-Out ... | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Management/HP-CEO-Search-Five-Insiders-Five-Outsiders-and-Five-WayOut-Choices-803799/Sep 15 19:09
schestowitzwowSep 15 19:09
schestowitzwatch results 1 and 2Sep 15 19:09
iophkgoodSep 15 19:10
iophkworkSep 15 19:10
schestowitz!google econoffSep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Econoff | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/09/07/econoff/Sep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - [Ip-health] US in Philippines - "large economies of scale are the ... | http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/ip-health/2002-December/003915.htmlSep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Auto Stop Oddity's with Econ OFF. - Insight Central: Honda Insight ... | http://www.insightcentral.net/forums/troubleshooting-problems/15703-auto-stop-odditys-econ-off.htmlSep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - UNCLASSIFIED PTQ2573 RELEASED IN PART B 1, 1.4(D ... | http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/146584.pdfSep 15 19:10
schestowitz!google xamarin microsoftSep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Proponents Promote Xamarin While Microsoft is ... | http://techrights.org/2011/06/07/microsoft-is-killing-mono/Sep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SUSE and Xamarin: Helping Microsoft Tax GNU/Linux (Google ... | http://techrights.org/2011/08/13/xamarin-opensuse-liability/Sep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Miguel De Icaza Forms New Mono Company: Xamarin - Slashdot | http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl%3Fsid%3D11/05/17/145202Sep 15 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The future of Mono - Xamarin : programming | http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/hcsks/the_future_of_mono_xamarin/Sep 15 19:10
iophkWhat's econoff?Sep 15 19:10
schestowitzeconomy officers in secret cablesSep 15 19:11
schestowitzMany people wonderedSep 15 19:11
iophkthanksSep 15 19:11
iophkhttp://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/techrights.orgSep 15 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techrights.org Site Info .::. Size~: 96.53 KBSep 15 19:11
schestowitzUnless I meet a friend for dinner, I'll spend the night posting some more cablesSep 15 19:12
schestowitziophk: it's MSIE'edSep 15 19:12
iophk:(Sep 15 19:12
schestowitzIt's like checking MSN based on Netcraft ranksSep 15 19:12
schestowitzOr Baidu based on Net AppsSep 15 19:12
schestowitzOrkut based on SafariSep 15 19:13
schestowitzOpera.com Opera :-)Sep 15 19:13
schestowitzInteresting stats:Sep 15 19:13
schestowitzMost people who download Firefox are MSIE users :-)Sep 15 19:14
schestowitzHow bizarreSep 15 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: Happy Birthday Pirate Bay! https://joindiaspora.com/posts/468464 #tpb #piratebay #torrentSep 15 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 15 19:14
iophkorkut = orkku == http://www.sanakirja.org/search.php?id=537648Sep 15 19:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: orkku suomesta kaikille kielille - Sanakirja.org (suomi-*) .::. Size~: 12.49 KBSep 15 19:14
MinceRorcSep 15 19:14
iophkMSIE users *need* to download FF, so that would explain some of it.Sep 15 19:15
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83938794Sep 15 19:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 17:52:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I believe the term would be artificial hype. organic hype would be the people already excited for it ;)Sep 15 19:16
schestowitziophk: yes, it was a jokeSep 15 19:17
iophk<whoosh>Sep 15 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 almost feels like it's here. Real soon now. I know cause I read it somewhere on the Interwebs :-) #vapourware #2013 #pr #deceptionSep 15 19:17
iophkVista 8 is getting lots of fluff over at /Sep 15 19:18
iophkslashdotSep 15 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Firefox is so much better and more popular, how come almost everyone downloads it with MSIE? :-)Sep 15 19:19
iophkIllegal tyingSep 15 19:20
schestowitziophk: I know, it's disgustingSep 15 19:20
schestowitzI hope Microsoft pays them for itSep 15 19:20
schestowitzOtherwise it means the site is run by Microsoft PR foklkSep 15 19:20
iophkIt would be bad if someone were doing it for free from the insideSep 15 19:20
schestowitzi.e. infiltratedSep 15 19:20
schestowitz"Are you a Linux user? Sorry, we can't hire you. We in Slashdot are 'agnostic'"Sep 15 19:21
iophkit might be part of the reason why Malda had to quit.  I don't know though.Sep 15 19:21
DrumScumso, win8 is almost installed :-pSep 15 19:21
schestowitzSlashdot now is "well balanced". Ballmer's mission accomplished :-)Sep 15 19:21
schestowitzNext upSep 15 19:22
DrumScumi want to see what i'm going to hate :-pSep 15 19:22
schestowitzPgson, SJVN, others...Sep 15 19:22
schestowitzAbuse themSep 15 19:22
schestowitzHarass themSep 15 19:22
schestowitzClaim them to be "liars"Sep 15 19:22
schestowitzContact their editors/employersSep 15 19:22
schestowitzOne by oneSep 15 19:22
schestowitzEventually all will be assimilated to the b0rg's PRSep 15 19:22
schestowitzresistance is futileSep 15 19:22
iophkhttp://win.downloadatoz.com/news/2376,microsoft-windows-8-to-repeat-vista-s-failure-20110107.htmlSep 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Windows 8 to Repeat Vista's Failure? .::. Size~: 33.66 KBSep 15 19:23
iophkThose are the tactics.Sep 15 19:23
schestowitzWhy question mark?Sep 15 19:23
schestowitzMaybe it's a trease headline, let's seeSep 15 19:23
schestowitz"Vista was so wonderful"Sep 15 19:23
iophk!google vista failureSep 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Vista's 11 Pillars of Failure | John C. Dvorak | PCMag.com | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2286065,00.aspSep 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft admits vista failure- The Inquirer | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1007806/microsoft-admits-vista-failureSep 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Five reasons for the failure of Vista | http://www.articleinspector.com/articles/2128/1/Five-reasons-for-the-failure-of-Vista-/Page1.htmlSep 15 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/the-top-five-reasons-why-windows-vista-failed/10303Sep 15 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Let's compare next #Ubuntu with next #Vista8 . Yes, because both are "next". One next month, the other in 2 years. #vapourware #microsoftSep 15 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya meet their new French & English masters. Chinese have been booted out job done as far as they are concernedSep 15 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version of the same technology [..]" -MicrosoftSep 15 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[..] Phase 1 (Evangelism Starts) for version x+1 may start as soon as this Final Release of version X." -- Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1yah2Sep 15 19:25
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeSep 15 19:26
iophkVista 8 is IMHO set up for a larger failureSep 15 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #Windows8 to Repeat #Vista 's Failure? http://ur1.ca/53edu give a dev 2 years to make solid Linux distro for fair comparison...Sep 15 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Let's compare next #Ubuntu with next #Vista8 . Yes, because both are "next". One next month, the other in 2 years. #vapo ...Sep 15 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz "In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version of the same technology ...Sep 15 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft keeps lying about release dates, changing them like the copyright expiry dates. Typical vapourware since 2008! http://ur1.ca/4yz5hSep 15 19:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Windows 8 to Repeat Vista's Failure? .::. Size~: 33.66 KBSep 15 19:27
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83943002Sep 15 19:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vista 8 Reality Log - Techrights .::. Size~: 21.16 KBSep 15 19:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 18:25:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the main difference between the advertising for 8 and previous versions is the previous ones promised things I actually wanted.Sep 15 19:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/114403844020109312Sep 15 19:33
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz Hi! I am writing an article and would like to link to something from you on techrights cataloging MS evangelism. Can U help?Sep 15 19:33
schestowitznaa...Sep 15 19:33
schestowitzHe's going to whitewash those leaked docsSep 15 19:33
schestowitzPretending it's all just OKSep 15 19:33
schestowitz"Nothing to see here"Sep 15 19:33
schestowitzThat's what he tries to do with cablegate atmSep 15 19:34
iophkDon't feed the trollSep 15 19:34
schestowitzHis purpose to Microsoft is clear all alongSep 15 19:34
schestowitzHe refuses to even acknowledge that Microsoft violated lawsSep 15 19:34
schestowitzIt's one of those apologists who try to daemonise the non-apologistsSep 15 19:35
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iophkOf course, that part of the job description for an apologistSep 15 19:35
schestowitzidentica is laggy todaySep 15 19:35
schestowitzworks in burstsSep 15 19:35
iophkWhy used identica at  all?Sep 15 19:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTkxMgSep 15 19:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Aims For Open-Source OpenGL 3.0 Driver By Year's End .::. Size~: 18.37 KBSep 15 19:44
DaemonFCyeah, but without s3tc and float textures, it won't really be OpenGL 3Sep 15 19:45
DaemonFCthey need to find a way to invalidate not only that HTC patent for s3tc, but also the SGI patent on floating point texturesSep 15 19:46
XFaCEhi schestowitz:Sep 15 19:46
DaemonFCalmost every binary distribution of Mesa is crippled because they can't ship patent encumbered OpenGL extensionsSep 15 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At Microsoft, PR for Version X of OS starts 5 years in advance. Amazing. It's like Fedora Project advertising !Fedora 27 today.Sep 15 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ken Clarke wants it both ways. Mr rehabilitation plus lock them up and throw away the key.Sep 15 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @kevingranade the main diff. between the advertising for 8 and previous versions is the previous ones promised things I actually wanted.Sep 15 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @cippic Check out @OpenMedia_ca 's fantastic anti-online spying education campaign: http://t.co/GQPLh79c #stopspyingSep 15 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A pound to a poor person means a lot more than a pound to some bank. Support our brothers and sisters in need.Sep 15 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 15 19:47
schestowitzXFaCE: heySep 15 19:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kai_Mast/status/114409494171222016Sep 15 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Kai_Mast: @schestowitz maybe you just pointed out one of the few advantages of long release cycles? #windows8Sep 15 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz At Microsoft, PR for Version X of OS starts 5 years in advance. Amazing. It's like Fedora Project advertising !Fedora 27 ...Sep 15 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @linuxaria Free Software versus Open Source: Tryton vs OpenERP #fsf !linux http://ur1.ca/53ed8Sep 15 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] French Prime Minister encourages greater use of open formats http://ur1.ca/53dm2 #france #egovSep 15 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zentyal 2.2 Is More Responsive, Adds New Internet Access Module http://ur1.ca/53eirSep 15 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel Aims For Open-Source #OpenGL 3.0 Driver By Year's End http://ur1.ca/53eiv #linuxSep 15 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ones and noughts. All you have to do is guard them and forever watch politicians.Sep 15 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software versus Open Source: Tryton vs OpenERP .::. Size~: 33.28 KBSep 15 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: French Prime Minister encourages greater use of open formats - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.11 KBSep 15 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zentyal 2.2 Is More Responsive, Adds New Internet Access Module - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.48 KBSep 15 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Aims For Open-Source OpenGL 3.0 Driver By Year's End .::. Size~: 18.37 KBSep 15 19:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83937968Sep 15 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 17:43:42 UTC - Identi.ca: !Linux 3.1-rc6 http://ur1.ca/53e69 no organic hype needed for this development release with imminent finalSep 15 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 3.1-rc6 .::. Size~: 17.62 KBSep 15 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How NOT to Push a New !OpenSource License, from LinuxInsider by Barbara Hudson http://goo.gl/U4ivgSep 15 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Legal: How NOT to Push a New Open Source License, Part 1 .::. Size~: 59.51 KBSep 15 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !cc | Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany from Creative Commons » Mike Linksvayer http://goo.gl/ciDmDSep 15 20:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 20.87 KBSep 15 20:02
DaemonFC(03:02:28 PM) DaemonFC: Microsoft embraces standards, in other news, evangelical Christians back off their rhetorical attacks on gay people, and peace was achieved in the middle east, additionally, global warming was solved, AIDS was cured, and a pig just flew by.......Sep 15 20:03
DaemonFC:PSep 15 20:03
DaemonFC(03:03:17 PM) klh: somebody wants a few miracles...Sep 15 20:03
DaemonFC(03:03:36 PM) DaemonFC: I'm praying for all that, but first I want a ponySep 15 20:03
XFaCEschestowitz: I stand by and apologize for my decision of making Diablo-D3 room operatorSep 15 20:04
schestowitzHeh.Sep 15 20:04
schestowitzNo need to apologiseSep 15 20:04
DaemonFCYOU did that?Sep 15 20:04
schestowitzI thouvht it was funnySep 15 20:04
XFaCEDaemonFC: I had to get some sleepSep 15 20:04
XFaCE:PSep 15 20:04
schestowitzThat you wanted to mod up the most responsible personSep 15 20:04
schestowitzAnd probably made the least reasonable choiceSep 15 20:05
schestowitzActually, DrPizza would have been least reasonable when I think of itSep 15 20:05
DaemonFCnext time make me a moderator, I can throw DrPizza out and then schestowitz can kickban me and blame me for itSep 15 20:05
DaemonFCjust like StalinSep 15 20:06
DaemonFC:DSep 15 20:06
XFaCElolSep 15 20:06
XFaCEI liked DiabloSep 15 20:06
XFaCEs ender emergency systemSep 15 20:06
XFaCEvery effectiveSep 15 20:06
MinceRso did iSep 15 20:06
MinceRexcept for the unbanSep 15 20:06
XFaCEIt wouldn't have been a test though ;)Sep 15 20:07
MinceRyes it would haveSep 15 20:07
MinceRa successful one at that!Sep 15 20:07
XFaCElolSep 15 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @neildarlow @silner Which probably answers the earlier question asking why #Apple is pursuing patent lawsuits in Europe. Good for !An ...Sep 15 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @nanday Distrust whatever a writer says about writing. What they usually mean is that's the way they do it.Sep 15 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz At Microsoft, PR for Version X of OS starts 5 years in advance. Amazing. It's like Fedora Project advertising !Fedora 27 ...Sep 15 20:07
MinceRhm, the crApple troll just joined the other two channelsSep 15 20:07
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XFaCEschestowitz: Diablo-D3 is one of the least responsible here?  I find that hard to believeSep 15 20:08
XFaCEMinceR: Snitty?Sep 15 20:08
MinceRindeedSep 15 20:08
schestowitzI would rather be frying i Hell than be a chair in Ballmer's office :-)Sep 15 20:08
MinceRyou don't like flying? :>Sep 15 20:08
DaemonFCMinceR: What did they call that experiment that proved most people will shock the living hell out of someone just because an authority figure said to?Sep 15 20:08
DaemonFCthe Milgram Experiment?Sep 15 20:08
schestowitzMinceR: heheSep 15 20:08
XFaCEschestowitz: You don't like to bath in sweat? :PSep 15 20:09
MinceRDaemonFC: wikipedia is your friend :>Sep 15 20:09
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Milgram_experimentSep 15 20:10
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenSep 15 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/114413227898712064Sep 15 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz What is most interesting is connections to heads of state and embassies. Can you help me!?!Sep 15 20:10
schestowitzHe doesn't understand he's being ignored yet"Sep 15 20:10
XFaCEDaemonFC: How's the LXDE menu editor working out?Sep 15 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google and Intel Android pairing spells trouble for Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53emj @sjvn is right on this one & #Microsoft has chairs flyingSep 15 20:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google and Intel Android pairing spells trouble for Microsoft | ZDNet .::. Size~: 122.68 KBSep 15 20:11
DaemonFCXFaCE: works fineSep 15 20:11
schestowitzXFaCE: IIRC, about 90% of us *maybe 80%) is waterSep 15 20:11
DaemonFCthe XFCE wiki suggests it nowSep 15 20:11
schestowitzIn Ballmer's case it's 95%Sep 15 20:11
DaemonFCas a possible alternative to alacarteSep 15 20:11
XFaCEDaemonFC: Did you try the DM?Sep 15 20:11
schestowitzHe's a watermelon of a characterSep 15 20:11
DaemonFCwhich brings in half of GNOME 3Sep 15 20:11
DaemonFCyuckSep 15 20:11
DaemonFCnopeSep 15 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/114415169412677633Sep 15 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Speaking of Intel, what do u think about their latest statements: Funding Universities, research and stuff...?Sep 15 20:12
schestowitzThey should practice as they preachSep 15 20:12
XFaCEdaemonFC: Yeah, there are convoluted commands for installing Alcarte minus most dependencies.Sep 15 20:12
XFaCEdeamonfc: And in the end it doesn't work well anywaySep 15 20:12
DaemonFCI think it's questionable to write a menu editor for LXDE in JavaSep 15 20:13
DaemonFCbut it beats Alacarte pulling in all that crapSep 15 20:13
XFaCEdaemonFC: agreed, though better than mono any daySep 15 20:13
XFaCEDaemonFC: OpenJDK works fine it seems; good to know.Sep 15 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US-based LHC will be set up in Ballmer's office. They'll use chairs and photos of penguins for the experiments.Sep 15 20:14
DaemonFCyes, OpenJDK works well enough that there's usually no need to use Sun Java anymoreSep 15 20:14
XFaCEDaemonFC: What are the exceptions that you have noticed?Sep 15 20:14
DaemonFCcome to think of it, I haven't run into anySep 15 20:14
DaemonFCI've "heard" of some thoughSep 15 20:15
XFaCEHey, so long as I can play Cat Mario, all is good. :PSep 15 20:15
DaemonFCI set up Minecraft to run on OpenJDK on my brother's computerSep 15 20:15
DaemonFCthey recommend the nonfree Java, but you apaprently don't need itSep 15 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hands-on: Firefox Mobile's new Android tablet interface http://ur1.ca/53enj good, detailed review from Ryan Paul.Sep 15 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hands-on: Firefox Mobile's new Android tablet interface .::. Size~: 35.57 KBSep 15 20:16
XFaCEschestowitz: For a second, I thought you dented "Ron" PaulSep 15 20:16
XFaCEbeen reading too many articles :PSep 15 20:16
MinceRnot Rand Paul?Sep 15 20:16
XFaCE!google rand paulSep 15 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rand Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_PaulSep 15 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Rand Paul 2010 | U.S. Senate | http://www.randpaul2010.com/Sep 15 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Rand Paul | United States Senator | http://paul.senate.gov/Sep 15 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Rand Paul : Pictures, Videos, Breaking News | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/rand-paulSep 15 20:17
schestowitz!google ron paul creationist 7 daysSep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ron Paul On Evolution Vs. Creationism - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D2eiR_U8vhIoSep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ron Paul Backs Creationism, Denies Evolution Liberal Values | http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/12/22/ron-paul-backs-creationism-denies-evolution/Sep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Creation/Evolution Debate | Ron Paul 2012 | Sound Money, Peace ... | http://www.dailypaul.com/54109/creation-evolution-debateSep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ron Paul: True Liberty vs. Perfect Safety | http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-21/ron-paul-true-liberty-vs-perfect-safety/Sep 15 20:18
schestowitz!google ron paul abortionSep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Abortion - Ron Paul | http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/Sep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Political positions of Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_PaulSep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Ron Paul: Abortion Is 'The Most Important Issue of Our Age ... | http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/08/26/305485/ron-paul-abortion-is-the-most-important-issue-of-our-age/Sep 15 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ron Paul stresses opposition to abortion rights in Iowa speech - The ... | http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/176761-ron-paul-stresses-opposition-to-abortion-rights-in-straw-poll-speechSep 15 20:18
schestowitzI like Ron PaulSep 15 20:18
schestowitzBut he covers too many topicsSep 15 20:18
XFaCEschestowitz: MinceR: I have enough nonsense to worry about in Canada. :PSep 15 20:18
schestowitzAnd some of them I don't agree withSep 15 20:18
MinceR:>Sep 15 20:18
schestowitzOther politifcians stay mumSep 15 20:19
MinceRXFaCE: what they do in the USA tends to affect most of the planet, sadlySep 15 20:19
schestowitzTo keep the public undividedSep 15 20:19
schestowitzPaul has become too partisanSep 15 20:19
XFaCE!google copyright bill reintroduced unchanged moore canadaSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Michael Geist - C-32 | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_tags%26task%3Dview%26tag%3Dc-32%26Itemid%3D411Sep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Supreme Court cases may delay copyright bill - Politics - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/09/09/technology-copyright-act-moore-scoc.htmlSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Conservative Majority: What Next for Digital Policies ... | http://www.backbonemag.com/Backblog/the-conservative-majority-what-next-for-digital-policies.aspxSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Tyee – Wikileaks Show Canadian Officials Caving to US Pressure | http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2011/09/06/Wikileaks-Copyright-US-Pressure/Sep 15 20:19
schestowitzThey need to either have two opinions on the same subject or always deny questionsSep 15 20:19
XFaCE!google copyright bill reintroduced unchanged moore canada michael geistSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Michael Geist - The Canadian Copyright Bill: Flawed But Fixable | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5080/125Sep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Michael Geist - Blog | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/Sep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Michael Geist - Government to Reintroduce Bill C-32 "In Exactly the ... | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5998/125/Sep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Michael Geist - Seven Copyright Questions for Canadian Heritage ... | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5056/135/Sep 15 20:19
schestowitzScreening of journalistsSep 15 20:19
MinceRXFaCE: the us government uses trade agreements and sanctions as weapons to lobby for the interests of m$Sep 15 20:19
schestowitz!google pain asked on abortion cbsSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Abortion Debate: Fetuses Can't Feel Pain Until 24 Weeks - CBS News | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20008829-10391704.htmlSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Nebraska Limits Abortions, Citing Fetus Pain - CBS News | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/13/national/main6391141.shtmlSep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Abortion Rights Foes Look To Spread Fetal Pain Law « CBS Baltimore | http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/10/abortion-rights-foes-look-to-spread-fetal-pain-law/Sep 15 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Legislation Would Ban Abortions After 20 Weeks | http://www.waka.com/news/6504-legislation-would-ban-abortions-after-20-weeks.htmlSep 15 20:19
schestowitz!google palin asked on abortion cbsSep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Palin, Biden Trade Views On Abortion - CBS News | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/01/eveningnews/main4493062.shtmlSep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Steinem on Palin: Feminists Don't Criminalize Abortion - CBS News ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/%3Fid%3D6607715nSep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Sarah Palin with Katie Couric: On gays, abortion, evolution ... | http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/sarah-palin-with-katie-couric.htmlSep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - CBS: 'Polarizing' Palin Speaks At 'Anti-Abortion Rights Rally ... | http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2010/11/11/cbs-polarizing-palin-speaks-anti-abortion-rights-rallySep 15 20:20
DaemonFCI may switch kwin over to OpenGL ESSep 15 20:20
DaemonFCjust for the hell of itSep 15 20:20
XFaCE!google opengl esSep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - OpenGL ES - The Standard for Embedded Accelerated 3D Graphics | http://www.khronos.org/opengles/Sep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - OpenGL ES 2_X - The Standard for Embedded Accelerated 3D ... | http://www.khronos.org/opengles/2_X/Sep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - OpenGL ES - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL_ESSep 15 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - iPhone Development: OpenGL ES from the Ground Up: Table of ... | http://iphonedevelopment.blogspot.com/2009/05/opengl-es-from-ground-up-table-of.htmlSep 15 20:20
*schestowitz deletes wiki spamnSep 15 20:21
XFaCEDaemonFC: Uh, that would be an improvement for a desktop/laptop?Sep 15 20:21
DaemonFCpossiblySep 15 20:21
XFaCEschestowitz: joke?Sep 15 20:21
DaemonFCES 2 is a subset of OpenGL 2Sep 15 20:21
XFaCEschestowitz: Oh, the Techrights wikiSep 15 20:21
DaemonFCit should be somewhat fasterSep 15 20:21
schestowitzyus!Sep 15 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] From what I've seen, cats have no difficulty wrapping you around their fingers... er toes :)Sep 15 20:22
XFaCEschestowitz: we need a solutionSep 15 20:23
schestowitzPreventuing new usrs from subscribing maybeSep 15 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Google and Intel Android pairing spells trouble for Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53emj @sjvn is right on this one & #Microsof ...Sep 15 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google and Intel Android pairing spells trouble for Microsoft | ZDNet .::. Size~: 123.11 KBSep 15 20:24
XFaCEXFaCE: How about a captcha during registration?Sep 15 20:25
XFaCEsee how that worksSep 15 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] People envy my cash and good looks: Ronaldo - India News - IBNLive - http://ibnlive.in.com/mobile/5/184472.htmlSep 15 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People envy my cash and good looks: Ronaldo - India News - IBNLive .::. Size~: 3.42 KBSep 15 20:26
DaemonFCThe following packages will be REMOVED:Sep 15 20:26
DaemonFC  kde-window-manager libkwineffects1abi2Sep 15 20:26
DaemonFCThe following NEW packages will be installed:Sep 15 20:26
DaemonFC  kde-window-manager-gles libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa-drivers libgbm1 libgles2-mesa libkwineffects1abi2-gles libopenvg1-mesa libwayland0 libxcb-xfixes0Sep 15 20:26
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 20:26
DaemonFCbrbSep 15 20:26
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schestowitzhttp://kb.siteground.com/article/How_can_I_disable_users_registration_on_my_MediaWiki_website.htmlSep 15 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to disable registration for MediaWiki? .::. Size~: 21.28 KBSep 15 20:27
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DaemonFCit worksSep 15 20:27
DaemonFCand it is fasterSep 15 20:27
DaemonFCryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ es2_info Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFCEGL_VERSION = 1.4 (Gallium)Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFCEGL_VENDOR = Mesa ProjectSep 15 20:28
DaemonFCEGL_EXTENSIONS = EGL_WL_bind_wayland_display EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_image_pixmap EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_reusable_sync EGL_KHR_fence_sync EGL_KHR_surfaceless_gles1 EGL_KHR_surfaceless_gles2 EGL_KHR_surfaceless_opengl Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFCEGL_CLIENT_APIS = OpenGL OpenGL_ES OpenGL_ES2 OpenVG Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFCGL_VERSION: OpenGL ES 2.0 Mesa 7.12-develSep 15 20:28
DaemonFCGL_RENDERER: Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOODSep 15 20:28
DaemonFCGL_EXTENSIONS:Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFC    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFC    GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1,                                                                                          Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFC    GL_OES_draw_texture, GL_OES_depth24, GL_OES_element_index_uint, Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFC    GL_OES_fbo_render_mipmap, GL_OES_mapbuffer, GL_OES_rgb8_rgba8, Sep 15 20:28
DaemonFCnoticeably fasterSep 15 20:29
schestowitzoaky, doneSep 15 20:30
schestowitzThe spammers killed the ability to create new accountsSep 15 20:30
schestowitzthey 'won'Sep 15 20:30
DaemonFCI noticed the x.org wikis get spammed a lotSep 15 20:31
DaemonFCpenis pill ads mostlySep 15 20:31
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/114417585252089856?iid=am-182297469113161142528702557&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Sep 15 20:31
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz I know you don't trust me, but giving me information can't hurt Linux! This article will be critical of Win 8 ;-)Sep 15 20:31
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/114417849161887744?iid=am-4065281413161143158498248&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Sep 15 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr@keithccurtis: @schestowitz This is an article I wrote about Win 7: http://t.co/Py6MZsnP Did that article hurt Linux?Sep 15 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr@: Sep 15 20:32
schestowitzLOLSep 15 20:32
schestowitzFormer Microsoft staff, paid by the companySep 15 20:32
schestowitzAnd wants it to be treated as objectiveSep 15 20:32
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's a serious problemnSep 15 20:32
DaemonFCtell him you'd love to but you have an appointment on The O'Reilly FactorSep 15 20:33
DaemonFCand you think you'll be heard more thereSep 15 20:33
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 20:33
schestowitzHeheSep 15 20:33
schestowitzShouting match?Sep 15 20:33
schestowitzNot good for those with speaking engagements the following day :-)Sep 15 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @evan Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites will be upgrading to 1.0.0 over the weekend. Significant downtime expected. http://ur ...Sep 15 20:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/114418517620686848Sep 15 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @schestowitz In the other hand, it spells death for Meego...Sep 15 20:35
MinceRjust carry a megaphone with you?Sep 15 20:35
schestowitzGoogle Intel deal ^^Sep 15 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @evan Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites will be upgrading to 1.0.0 over the weekend. Significant downtime expectedSep 15 20:35
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83950918Sep 15 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 19:32:00 UTC - Identi.ca: #FSF @schestowitz Is #Techrights running a censorship campaign against online journalists who mention #proprietarySep 15 20:36
schestowitzHardly. Where does such an allegation come from?Sep 15 20:36
MinceRfrom where the sun doesn't shine, i guessSep 15 20:36
schestowitzBrandonSep 15 20:36
schestowitzis conpiracy siteSep 15 20:36
schestowitz*hisSep 15 20:37
MinceRone of his pseudonyms, then. i suspected so.Sep 15 20:37
schestowitzARR... Cons-piracy!Sep 15 20:37
schestowitzI guess I need to stop using proprietary software to actually fit Brandon's stereotype of meSep 15 20:38
schestowitzI've been accused of linking in techrights to sites that sell proprietary s/wSep 15 20:39
MinceRany specifics?Sep 15 20:39
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83951781Sep 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 19:38:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Seems like if any journalist boosts proprietary, they're attacked on #Techrights - BlackDuck, Microsoft, IBM, Apple, MacAsaySep 15 20:42
schestowitzHeheSep 15 20:42
schestowitzMacAsaySep 15 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Qomo 3.0, a #gnu #linux distro, has just been released. Is its site down due to high demand? http://www.linux-ren.org/Sep 15 20:42
schestowitzThat's like saying APple. AppleSep 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: www.linux-ren.org - Database Error .::. Size~: 2.12 KBSep 15 20:42
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_Goblinschestowitz, hang on though.....I support proprietary software....I don't think you've ever attacked me on Techrights.....Sep 15 20:44
XFaCEschestowitz: Not going to try a captcha?Sep 15 20:44
XFaCEI'm using Windows 7 right now.. oh god!  Roy's outside with an axe!Sep 15 20:45
schestowitzXFaCE: i think it requires plugins and I already have too much of a mess with thm in mediawikiSep 15 20:46
schestowitzXFaCE: when do you grt back home? :-)Sep 15 20:46
XFaCEfrom university?Sep 15 20:46
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schestowitzyesSep 15 20:46
sebsebsebhiSep 15 20:46
schestowitzVista7 shrine :-_Sep 15 20:46
MinceRhaySep 15 20:46
schestowitzo haiSep 15 20:46
XFaCEschestowitz: ick, don't say thatSep 15 20:47
schestowitzI'm jokingSep 15 20:47
schestowitzthe universitySep 15 20:47
XFaCEAbout 1.5 hrs.Sep 15 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The past 7 or so #Groklaw articles are all about #Oracle vs #Google - important caseSep 15 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] TWiT.tv got hacked this morning. We believe we've fixed the problem /by @leolaporteSep 15 20:47
schestowitzBTW, there's a fmous case of fedora in a canadian universitySep 15 20:47
XFaCEsorry, 2.5 hoursSep 15 20:47
schestowitzI can't recall its name noSep 15 20:47
schestowitz!google fedora canadian collegeSep 15 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - North America Ambassador List - FedoraProject | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/North_America_Ambassador_ListSep 15 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Subject Browsing - Internet Public Library | http://www.ipl.org/IPLBrowse/GetSubject%3Fvid%3D13%26cid%3D1%26tid%3D6693%26parent%3D6686Sep 15 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Canada - Internet Public Library | http://www.ipl.org/IPLBrowse/GetSubject%3Fvid%3D11%26cid%3D5%26tid%3D7834%26parent%3D7835Sep 15 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Andrew Fedora - Canada | LinkedIn | http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-fedora/28/421/3a9Sep 15 20:47
schestowitz!google fedora canadian universitySep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Subject Browsing - Internet Public Library | http://www.ipl.org/IPLBrowse/GetSubject%3Fvid%3D13%26cid%3D1%26tid%3D6693%26parent%3D6686Sep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - User:Rashadul - FedoraProject | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:RashadulSep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Province: Alberta Canadian "University" Hotel Rate Program | http://caubo.ca/fedora/repository/caubo:2975/OBJ/R%25C3%25A9pertoire%2520des%2520tarifs%2520h%25C3%25B4teliers%25202011-2012_2011-08-25.pdfSep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - List of Canadian universities by endowment - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_universities_by_endowmentSep 15 20:48
schestowitzI can't seem to find its name right nowSep 15 20:48
XFaCE!google algonquin college fedoraSep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Wireless - Algonquin College - Information Technology Services | http://www.algonquincollege.com/its/support/wireless/Sep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Summercamp/Geocamp 2009 - Ottawa, Canada | FOSSLC | http://fosslc.org/drupal/summercamp2009Sep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Sabrina Lopes | Universidade Federal do Paraná - Academia.edu | http://ufpr.academia.edu/SabrinaLopesSep 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Matt Beaudin - Canada | LinkedIn | http://ca.linkedin.com/in/mattbeaudinSep 15 20:48
XFaCEI know they have a Linux lab and courses, I;ve seen it myselfSep 15 20:49
schestowitzSeleca I thinkSep 15 20:49
schestowitz!goog,e Seleca fedoraSep 15 20:49
schestowitz!google Seleca fedoraSep 15 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Selecta KDE-Apps.org | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Selecta%3Fcontent%3D138497Sep 15 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Black Fedora Blog | http://theblackfedorablog.com/Sep 15 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Edwina Fedora (DoRa!) on Myspace | http://www.myspace.com/hanabi5Sep 15 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Vintage Video: RCA SelectaVision - The Fedora Chronicles | http://thefedorachronicles.com/tv/vintage_video/rca_spectravision.htmlSep 15 20:49
schestowitzSome word/name similar to thatSep 15 20:49
schestowitzOhSep 15 20:50
schestowitzSenacaSep 15 20:50
schestowitzI did some searching in techrightsSep 15 20:50
schestowitz!google seneca fedoraSep 15 20:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - User:Ctyler - FedoraProject | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:CtylerSep 15 20:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Archive:Seneca College tech communications class ... - Fedora Project | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Seneca_College_tech_communications_class_plan_2008-2009Sep 15 20:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - [fedora-arm] Fedora ARM at Seneca: Slowing Down to Speed Up | http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2011-April/001210.htmlSep 15 20:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Fedora, Seneca, and FUDCon Tempe - Chris Tyler's Blog | http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php%3F/archives/241-Fedora,-Seneca,-and-FUDCon-Tempe.htmlSep 15 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 114 dents!Sep 15 20:52
XFaCEI notice ender isn't around, schestowitz.  Has he gracefully retired? :PSep 15 20:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR _Goblin Windows 8Sep 15 20:54
sebsebsebXFaCE: Windows 8Sep 15 20:54
XFaCE...is hype?Sep 15 20:54
MinceRperhaps he's sparing us of the crazy for a whileSep 15 20:54
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/8vw1g.jpgSep 15 20:54
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schestowitzXFaCE: noSep 15 20:55
_GoblinWindows 8 is great.....can't wait for it to come outSep 15 20:55
schestowitzHe wants attention, so he puills a legSep 15 20:55
schestowitz_Goblin: can't wait till you turn 0? :-)Sep 15 20:56
schestowitz*40Sep 15 20:56
_GoblinlolSep 15 20:56
_GoblinI personally can't wait to BSOD on a tabletSep 15 20:56
sebsebseb_Goblin: Windows 8 does actsually look quite intersting from this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88ISep 15 20:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building "Windows 8" - Video #1       - YouTube .::. Size~: 71.46 KBSep 15 20:56
XFaCEschestowitz: [/sarcasm]Sep 15 20:56
_Goblinits whats been missing from my life...Sep 15 20:56
sebsebseb,but yeah indeed it will probably still have the BSOD or something like that, that's a pointSep 15 20:56
_GoblinI'd love to watch that youtube clip but Im still on dialup speeds.Sep 15 20:57
sebsebseblooks interesting from that video, but yes that's bling what I am seeing thereSep 15 20:57
schestowitzLOL> "The Crowd Game - what men tend to do in a crowd" http://i.imgur.com/pXs6m.jpgSep 15 20:57
XFaCE_Goblin: I've always wanted to control an desktop OS through ugly multi-coloured boxesSep 15 20:57
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_Goblinyep me tooSep 15 20:57
_Goblingimme the blingSep 15 20:57
MinceRschestowitz: lolSep 15 20:58
XFaCELet's make the same thing for Linux, except as a command-line applicationSep 15 20:58
XFaCE_Goblin: Advanced!Sep 15 20:58
sebsebsebXFaCE: well those boxes on the start screen, the idea is that app developers will be able to addSep 15 20:58
sebsebsebby the sounds of itSep 15 20:58
sebsebseband then can switch over to the Windows 7 like interface as well from all thatSep 15 20:58
XFaCECan I have the Windows 95 interface?Sep 15 20:59
sebsebsebXFaCE: don't knowSep 15 20:59
XFaCElolSep 15 20:59
sebsebsebprobably some option for the classic still thoughSep 15 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Date oops [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/2gnYR.png #backToTheFutureSep 15 20:59
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sebsebsebanyawy Microsoft really do need to sell a lot of Windows 8Sep 15 20:59
sebsebsebas inSep 15 20:59
sebsebsebhaving most of the worlds computers that are still used running itSep 15 20:59
sebsebsebthat are being used running itSep 15 20:59
MinceRas in keep up the OEM agreements to force people to buy their crap?Sep 15 20:59
sebsebsebor yep it's yet another failure,  like Vista and Vista version 2Sep 15 20:59
sebsebsebwhen it comes to market shareSep 15 20:59
sebsebseband that's what Windows is about really, making loads of money for Micrsooft and having loads of market share whilst doing thatSep 15 21:00
DrumScumjust installed win8 :-pSep 15 21:00
DrumScumin vboxSep 15 21:00
sebsebsebDrumScum: it runs ok?Sep 15 21:00
sebsebsebsomeone said it didn't work well thereSep 15 21:00
DrumScummehSep 15 21:00
DrumScumvbox guest additions didn't installSep 15 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks fever grips Harare http://ur1.ca/53evg time for more #cablegateSep 15 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks fever grips Zimbabwe | Zimbabwean http://t.co/Xu9jayObSep 15 21:00
sebsebsebDrumScum: ok, but the vm itself works ok?Sep 15 21:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks fever grips Harare |  The Zimbabwean .::. Size~: 38.25 KBSep 15 21:01
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DrumScumso i was stuck with 800x600 resoSep 15 21:01
sebsebsebis it it a trial like the other one?Sep 15 21:01
sebsebseb30 days or whatever it isSep 15 21:01
DrumScumyup, it worked okSep 15 21:01
sebsebsebor three monthsSep 15 21:01
sebsebseblike the development versions of WIndows 7 they releasedSep 15 21:01
DrumScumnot all 'tiles' worked thoughSep 15 21:01
sebsebsebDrumScum: apparnatly it will run on loads of stuffSep 15 21:01
sebsebseb,but I am still thinking maybe I am better off trying on the other computer in a Virtualbox thereSep 15 21:01
DrumScumie. i could click on IE tile as much as i wanted, IE would not startSep 15 21:01
sebsebsebsince that's got 2GB RAMSep 15 21:01
sebsebseband I only got 1GB hereSep 15 21:01
DrumScumbut it's a weird concept to have the 'desktop' as an 'app'Sep 15 21:02
XFaCEDrumScum: It's not a concept, it's technobabble.Sep 15 21:02
DrumScumwell duh ;-)Sep 15 21:02
DrumScumbut they make it appear like thatSep 15 21:03
DrumScumand the illusion is done pretty well i must saySep 15 21:03
DrumScumstill, it's basically win7 with a tile layer on top of itSep 15 21:03
sebsebsebDrumScum: ah, but this is just early stuff anywaySep 15 21:04
sebsebsebmore stuff later onSep 15 21:04
XFaCEsebsebseb: You are actually excited about this?Sep 15 21:04
sebsebsebDrumScum: anyway you think with 1GB RAM, I could probably virtualbox  it?Sep 15 21:04
DrumScumi think in its current version it's butt uglySep 15 21:04
sebsebsebDrumScum: well apparnatly it's meant to run on everything basicaly, going by that video I sawSep 15 21:04
DrumScumsebsebseb: i used 1536 MB Sep 15 21:04
sebsebseb1536MB which is how much RAM? in GB?Sep 15 21:05
sebsebsebXFaCE: well I saw a screenshot of it last night, someones screenshot and did look kind of interestingSep 15 21:05
DrumScumeh, 1.5 Gig ;-)\Sep 15 21:05
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sebsebsebXFaCE: and yes I am a bit exited about this, but only since,  well my little brother will end up having it on his first lap top, but  also going to have Mageia on there :DSep 15 21:05
DrumScumwait, let me create a little screencast for you then ;-)Sep 15 21:05
XFaCEsebsebseb: You still have the link?Sep 15 21:05
sebsebsebXFaCE: ,but yeah he wants a lap top when he starts secondary school or aorund then,  so I was like, wait untill Windows 8 comes out then,  and then they will be selling lap tops for cheaper and such as wellSep 15 21:06
sebsebsebno point buying Windows 7 nowSep 15 21:06
sebsebsebwhen Windows 8 is well not that long to go now reallySep 15 21:06
sebsebsebpluss it's about a year, untill he will start wanting a lap top even more, but he knows to wait untill Windows 8 first :DSep 15 21:06
sebsebseband that will come out in like December or somethingSep 15 21:07
sebsebsebI guessSep 15 21:07
sebsebsebOctober maybeSep 15 21:07
MinceRare there any games that require vista, and won't run on xp?Sep 15 21:07
sebsebseband Mageia 2,  Wednesday 4th April 2012 :DSep 15 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching the last torchwood in the series. I will not watch the next one if it is another USA moneymaker.Sep 15 21:07
sebsebseband they are on a 9 months release cycle so I guess Mageia 3 is December 2012 or Januaray 2013 in that caseSep 15 21:07
_GoblinI think the hope is....7 will become the new XP and Windows 8 will go forward in much the same way Windows 7 is nowSep 15 21:07
sebsebsebwell Magiea 2 might get delayed, but probably notSep 15 21:07
XFaCEsebsebseb: Mageia-nut :PSep 15 21:08
_GoblinMageia - Not for me thanks....Sep 15 21:08
sebsebseb_Goblin: I think the hope for Micrsooft is that Windows 8 will kill off XPSep 15 21:08
sebsebsebXFaCE: hmm?Sep 15 21:08
sebsebseb_Goblin: leaving hardly any computers that are still being used with XPSep 15 21:08
_Goblinwell I can confidently say it wont...I can't see 8 having an appeal to Enterprise.....unless theres an enterprise edition which is vastly different.Sep 15 21:08
XFaCEsebsebseb: Mageia seems to be theme of your discussions. :PSep 15 21:08
sebsebsebXFaCE: of course look here http://identi.ca/sebsebsebSep 15 21:09
sebsebsebXFaCE: what does it say there?Sep 15 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sebastian (sebsebseb) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 69.31 KBSep 15 21:09
sebsebsebXFaCE: plus I got two Mageia channels on here :DSep 15 21:09
sebsebsebwell there in a way, if we include how I am op of the Swedish chanenls as well, and helped the guy get those set upSep 15 21:09
sebsebsebI mean four, because it's two Swedish channels really hmmSep 15 21:09
sebsebseboh and I include another channel I made for Mageia that isn't being used whilst at it evenSep 15 21:10
_Goblin12 months release to 8 allegedly....add to that around 12 months baking time to bring up to speed with Goog and Apple.....then they may have a product to compete...shame is Goog and Apple won't stand still....it will be Microsoft Smartphones part 2Sep 15 21:10
_GoblinSwedish...? You can speak the lingo?Sep 15 21:10
sebsebseb_Goblin: yepSep 15 21:11
DaemonFCbork bork bork bork!Sep 15 21:12
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 21:12
sebsebsebnearly as good as English, but don't type/write it that well, and reading is getitng slowly better it seemsSep 15 21:12
_Goblinexcellent!Sep 15 21:12
sebsebseb:)Sep 15 21:12
*MinceR can tell DaemonFC speaks perfect swedishSep 15 21:12
sebsebseb_Goblin: I had VIta Home Premium when it was quite new still reallySep 15 21:12
_GoblinOne regret of my life....not learning another languageSep 15 21:12
sebsebseb_Goblin: Vista above, was sort of okSep 15 21:13
_GoblinIm sorry to hear that.Sep 15 21:13
sebsebsebanyway some people don't really get new versions of WindowsSep 15 21:13
sebsebsebuntill at least SP1Sep 15 21:13
MinceR_Goblin: you still can, can you not?Sep 15 21:13
_Goblinyeah...its finding the time...Sep 15 21:13
_GoblinIve always wanted to learn Latin......Sep 15 21:13
sebsebseb_Goblin: I am meant to be fluent at Swedish, since half SwedishSep 15 21:13
sebsebsebXFaCE: could let my little brother choose a distro, but he'll probably just go with what I tell him to use :DSep 15 21:14
sebsebseband he has been using Ubuntu on the family computer, and then Mandriva, and it's still Mandriva, not 2011Sep 15 21:14
sebsebseb2010.2 at the moment yeahSep 15 21:14
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OfsABOGw3cSep 15 21:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: the muppet show - the best of swedish chef       - YouTube .::. Size~: 85.47 KBSep 15 21:14
XFaCE_Goblin: I guess MS assumes Enterprises will have the atmosphere of Apple StoresSep 15 21:14
sebsebsebXFaCE: and he knows I am going to be switching the other computer over to Mageia eventauly as well from MandrivaSep 15 21:15
sebsebseband that kind of thing Sep 15 21:15
sebsebsebso yeah :DSep 15 21:15
XFaCEsebsebseb: Put Arch on it :DSep 15 21:15
sebsebsebXFaCE: noSep 15 21:15
DaemonFChttp://www.opera.com/press/releases/2003/02/14/Sep 15 21:15
_GoblinXFaCE, it was established a long time ago that Microsoft has many assumptions, most of which deluded......the best of which was that WP7 would sellSep 15 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera releases "Bork" edition .::. Size~: 15.4 KBSep 15 21:15
sebsebseb_Goblin: by the way if you like Gnome 2 so much,  PC Linux OS may be the way for you to go, but not just yet, they are going to proide both Gnome 2 and Gnome 3Sep 15 21:16
XFaCEsebsebseb: Just being silly :PSep 15 21:16
sebsebsebprovide aboveSep 15 21:16
XFaCEsebsebseb: PCLOS XFCE is much better than I though it would beSep 15 21:16
sebsebsebXFaCE: yeah it's quite good really, but I am not an XFCE fanSep 15 21:16
sebsebsebXFaCE: ah ha, your name on  here is nearly XFCE, but with an a in it for some reason?Sep 15 21:17
sebsebsebyour knickSep 15 21:17
XFaCEsebsebseb: You know my old nick right?Sep 15 21:17
sebsebsebGForbesSep 15 21:18
XFaCEyeahSep 15 21:18
sebsebsebI think it was Sep 15 21:18
XFaCEclose enoughSep 15 21:18
XFaCEso long as you know it's meSep 15 21:18
XFaCEanywhoSep 15 21:18
MinceRsebsebseb: it's a reference to the X-Face header ;)Sep 15 21:18
_GoblinWhy the change>Sep 15 21:18
_Goblin?Sep 15 21:18
sebsebsebMinceR: The what?Sep 15 21:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: I asked him that beforeSep 15 21:18
sebsebseband he was likeSep 15 21:18
sebsebsebthe old one is like real nameSep 15 21:18
sebsebseband boringSep 15 21:18
XFaCEI was watching a video review on PCLOS XFCE, and the guy kept calling the DE "ex-face"Sep 15 21:18
sebsebsebor whatever he saidSep 15 21:18
sebsebsebex-face ?Sep 15 21:18
MinceRsebsebseb: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/X-FaceSep 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenSep 15 21:19
XFaCEsebsebseb: yeah.Sep 15 21:19
sebsebsebXFaCE: So your on PCLOS XFCE?Sep 15 21:19
XFaCENah, too coddled for meSep 15 21:19
sebsebsebto what?Sep 15 21:19
XFaCEnoobsSep 15 21:19
sebsebseboh?Sep 15 21:19
XFaCEyeahSep 15 21:19
sebsebsebhey what are you on about, you are a noob :DSep 15 21:19
_Goblinlol.....Sep 15 21:19
XFaCEI'm going to install Debian Sid XFCE when I have a timeblock I can exploitSep 15 21:20
_Goblinsebsebseb, you should now that in order to be l33t you must make life as difficult as possible for yourself....if its easy and inuitive, then its for n00bs.. ;)Sep 15 21:20
XFaCEMade possible by the overwhelming information and patience of Diablo-D3Sep 15 21:20
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah, so that means I am a noob at computer really, since I haven't used the more complex distros yet, ah wellSep 15 21:20
sebsebsebwell did try to get Arch set up in a vm before, but didnt' get very far with that, since it woudn't bootSep 15 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @schestowitz: ♺ @evan Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites will be upgrading to 1.0.0 over the weekend. Significant downtime expectedSep 15 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New #Sony PSN ToS: Class Action Waiver Included http://is.gd/034Qv9 large corps are all the fucking same #fbSep 15 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Sony PSN ToS: Class Action Waiver Included - Slashdot .::. Size~: 144.22 KBSep 15 21:21
sebsebseb_Goblin: and may have tried some other more complex distro in vm before, can't quite remember reallySep 15 21:21
sebsebsebanyway apparnatly LinusSep 15 21:21
sebsebseblikes a distro that he can easilly do his kernel stuff withSep 15 21:21
_Goblinits simple to change.....don't worry.......all you need do, is take a task.....then do it in the cli......preferably with no monitor standing on your head with one arm tied behind your back....then you'll be l33tSep 15 21:21
sebsebseband remour has it he probably runs FedoraSep 15 21:21
XFaCE_Goblin: Yeah, sebsebseb's pretty much as to the reason I changed my nickSep 15 21:22
sebsebsebhowever he did say on that omgubuntu article, that he doesn't run Ubuntu :DSep 15 21:22
XFaCEsebsebseb: Pretty sure he's still running FedoraSep 15 21:22
sebsebseband Fedora isn't a complex distroSep 15 21:22
XFaCEsort of...Sep 15 21:22
_Goblinoh....Sep 15 21:22
XFaCE_Goblin: Yeah, it's like a whole new me that is exactly the same.Sep 15 21:23
_GoblinahSep 15 21:23
_Goblin...nothing like a changeSep 15 21:23
_Goblinits as good as a rest apparentlySep 15 21:23
DrumScumhaha!Sep 15 21:24
XFaCEI dunno, I think roy's originality speaks for itselfSep 15 21:24
sebsebseb_Goblin: well don't try and become a woman then :DSep 15 21:24
XFaCE:PSep 15 21:24
sebsebseb_Goblin: your wife woudn't like thatSep 15 21:24
sebsebsebI don't think some howSep 15 21:24
XFaCEugh, how did the conversation go in this direction?Sep 15 21:24
sebsebsebXFaCE: _Goblin 's comment and me trying to be funnySep 15 21:24
sebsebsebor jokingSep 15 21:25
_Goblini actually have quite a few women following me....not techies either......Sep 15 21:25
_Goblin(online that is)Sep 15 21:25
sebsebseb_Goblin: your wife might not like that, heh hehSep 15 21:25
_GoblinI suppose its the natural charm and animal magnetism that I exhibit online.Sep 15 21:25
_Goblinthat comment will give some lurkers some material to play with....Sep 15 21:26
XFaCE_Goblin: The natural British elegance?Sep 15 21:26
_Goblinyep that tooSep 15 21:26
DrumScumokay, just made a little Win8 videoSep 15 21:27
sebsebsebDrumScum: ok link?Sep 15 21:27
DrumScumit's now encoding - and then on a youtube near you soonSep 15 21:27
XFaCE*bites fingernails in anticipation*Sep 15 21:27
DrumScumXFaCE: don't ;-)Sep 15 21:27
XFaCEPrepare to be... UNDERWHELMED!Sep 15 21:28
DrumScumit's kind of sucky reallySep 15 21:28
DrumScumheheSep 15 21:28
DrumScumyeah, underwhelmed is the wordSep 15 21:28
DrumScum(encoding 33% complete)Sep 15 21:28
XFaCEDrumScum: What you should do is compare it to Windows XP/Vista/7 with the Windows 8 "transformation pack"Sep 15 21:28
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DrumScumXFaCE: don't get what you mean...Sep 15 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn, I keep right clicking in #Gnome & expecting a useful menu to appear on the desktop :(Sep 15 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Augusto Pinochet held deposits of 9629 kilograms of gold (worth an estimated 160 million dollars) were fake." http://ur1.ca/53f1kSep 15 21:29
XFaCEDrumScum: I bet you the differences are minute on the surfaceSep 15 21:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable reference id: #06SANTIAGO2277 .::. Size~: 20.04 KBSep 15 21:29
DrumScumwhat's the transformation pack?Sep 15 21:29
XFaCE!google windows 8 transformation packSep 15 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Windows 8 Transformation Pack For Windows 7 Now Available ... | http://www.redmondpie.com/windows-8-transformation-pack-for-windows-7-now-available-download-now/Sep 15 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Download Windows 8 Transformation Pack | http://www.geeksdesk.com/download-windows-8-transformation-pack/Sep 15 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Download Windows 8 Transformation Pack 1.0 Free - Bring to your ... | http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Vista-Transformation-Pack.shtmlSep 15 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Download Windows 8 Transformation Pack for Windows XP | 7CHIP ... | http://www.7chip.com/2011/09/download-windows-8-transformation-pack.htmlSep 15 21:29
XFaCEjust a bloatpack for a new lookSep 15 21:30
DrumScummehSep 15 21:31
DrumScumstoopidSep 15 21:31
DrumScum(encoding 92% complete)Sep 15 21:31
XFaCEof course, but you should compare it anyways, just to illustrate the "meh"-ness to the fullSep 15 21:32
XFaCEbrbSep 15 21:35
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DrumScumuploading to youtube nowSep 15 21:36
DrumScum'bout 3 minutes remainingSep 15 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Google and Intel Android pairing spells trouble for Microsoft http://ur1.ca/53emj @sjvn is right on this one & #Microsof ...Sep 15 21:37
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_GoblinDrumScum, "uploading to youtube now" - What are you uploadingSep 15 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC #Torchwood used to be British now USA culturaly boring. USA keep it or give it us back and do your own thing.Sep 15 21:39
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DrumScumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--OAN9MnCaUSep 15 21:44
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DrumScumsoSep 15 21:44
DrumScum10 mins of win8 glorySep 15 21:44
*MinceR has fedora glory insteadSep 15 21:52
MinceRwith XFCESep 15 21:52
MinceRon a new tablet PC :>Sep 15 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany ur1.ca/53f1i #ccSep 15 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tell @JerryBrownGov that Californians need cover-to-cover privacy; urge him to sign the Reader #Privacy Act today! https://eff.org/r.2BWSep 15 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tzaf identizensSep 15 22:05
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schestowitzcubeman_: re WaterlooSep 15 22:09
schestowitz"Sep 15 22:09
schestowitz(NOTE:  Bill Sep 15 22:09
schestowitzGates has taken a personal interest in this university, Sep 15 22:09
schestowitzoften slipping in quietly to meet with Waterloo Sep 15 22:09
schestowitzstudents, as he did on October 7.  END NOTE) Sep 15 22:09
schestowitz"Sep 15 22:09
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=05TORONTO2638Sep 15 22:09
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DaemonFCschestowitz http://omgcheesecake.net/index.php?/topic/862-windows-8-developper-preview-is-out/Sep 15 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 Developper Preview is out ! - OMGCheesecake .::. Size~: 209.07 KBSep 15 22:11
DaemonFCthey're already worshiping Big Ass PhoneSep 15 22:11
MinceRindex.hu (a supposed news site) had vista8 as the main headline this morningSep 15 22:11
MinceRthen again, they also helped m$ wreck the web by advertising ie9 over and under every article for a whileSep 15 22:12
MinceR(as a non-banner text ad)Sep 15 22:12
MinceReven origo.hu advertised it todaySep 15 22:12
MinceRi don't know if these journalists are incompetent or boughtSep 15 22:12
DaemonFClittle of bothSep 15 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Dyne:Bolic 3 released! http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/dynebolic-three #linux #fossSep 15 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux hits version 3! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 27.43 KBSep 15 22:14
DaemonFCI might put Big Ass Phone in a VirtualboxSep 15 22:14
DaemonFCslap it around a bitSep 15 22:14
MinceRBig Ass-PhoneSep 15 22:14
DaemonFCdelete it when I'm tired of itSep 15 22:14
MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/37/Sep 15 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Hyphen .::. Size~: 8.22 KBSep 15 22:14
DaemonFCBig Ass Phone, with optional fallback to Vista 7 with a different start buttonSep 15 22:15
DaemonFCall this can be yours for a mere $320Sep 15 22:15
DaemonFCB-)Sep 15 22:15
DaemonFCexcept in Nebraska!Sep 15 22:15
DaemonFCif you're going to "upgrade" with the intention to make it look like Windows 7 anyway, why upgrade?Sep 15 22:16
DaemonFCthere's no major technical improvementsSep 15 22:16
DaemonFCjust the addition of Big Ass PhoneSep 15 22:17
DaemonFCoh, and more Ribbon cowbellSep 15 22:17
MinceRthey ate vista7 up tooSep 15 22:18
DaemonFCtrueSep 15 22:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] that's my stapler http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110915 #sip_and_clickSep 15 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Merck , which corrupts academic journals, nominated for Corporate Excellence Award. Priceless! http://ur1.ca/53fehSep 15 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-09-15 .::. Size~: 3.86 KBSep 15 22:32
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MinceRgnSep 15 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Announces Online Symposium on Web Accessibility Metrics http://ow.ly/1eI4ohSep 15 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C News Archive: 2011        W3C .::. Size~: 189.23 KBSep 15 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh @coyo switched to dukgo.com for my xmpp server, username tekkSep 15 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] ♺ @mlinksva: RT @creativecommons Creative Commons BY-SA license enforced in Germany http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28644Sep 15 22:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license enforced in Germany - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 20.87 KBSep 15 22:44
schestowitzBrandon's on a rut againSep 15 22:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83959508Sep 15 22:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 20:44:16 UTC - Identi.ca: Hey @schestowitz whats wrong with Apple trying to kill off counterfit operations? http://techrights.org/2011/09/14/apple-and-pfizer/Sep 15 22:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Cablegate: Apple Takes a Bite of Fake Viagra Experts | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.71 KBSep 15 22:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83959751Sep 15 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 20:46:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz - I hate to admit it: Bill Gates is pretty accurate except he excluded Canada. #Europe only copies - http://ur1.ca/53bdpSep 15 22:47
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83960800Sep 15 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Cablegate: Bill Gates Belittles the World | Techrights .::. Size~: 104 KBSep 15 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 20:53:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz - whats with you and attacking companies for following laws in the countries they operate?Sep 15 22:47
DaemonFC"the inmates are running the asylum"Sep 15 22:47
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83959751Sep 15 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 20:46:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz - I hate to admit it: Bill Gates is pretty accurate except he excluded Canada. #Europe only copies - http://ur1.ca/53bdpSep 15 22:47
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83961066Sep 15 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Cablegate: Bill Gates Belittles the World | Techrights .::. Size~: 104 KBSep 15 22:47
schestowitzah, okSep 15 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 20:54:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz - other than these few issues, great work #techrightsSep 15 22:47
DaemonFCseems to be a good explanation for UnitySep 15 22:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: your housemates?Sep 15 22:47
schestowitz:-)Sep 15 22:47
DaemonFCI tried out the new and improved Unity 4.16 just released todaySep 15 22:47
DaemonFCit has NEW bugsSep 15 22:47
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 22:48
DaemonFClike windows freezing in place on the desktop and you're unable to move themSep 15 22:48
DaemonFCand until you xkill them all, nothing else you open can be moved eitherSep 15 22:48
DaemonFCthrow in the normal compiz crashesSep 15 22:48
DaemonFCand how come when you go browsing for an application, it wastes half the screen offering to install random things from the repositories?Sep 15 22:50
DaemonFCoh, you're looking for Firefox, well, we'll take up half this lens to offer to install avidemux and driconfSep 15 22:51
DaemonFCthat's innovation!Sep 15 22:51
DaemonFCwhy must they make every Ubuntu release worse than the one that came before it?Sep 15 22:52
DaemonFCI'm surprised anyone has kept Unity running long enough to take screenshotsSep 15 22:53
DaemonFChttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O0s4RRHaHHU/Tc14M0m-DwI/AAAAAAAABdc/vA_7cLMSGIE/s1600/Sesame-street-cookie-monster-anger-yell.jpgSep 15 22:56
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DaemonFChttp://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage-window-management.htmlSep 15 23:00
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DaemonFClolSep 15 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] !trisquel users -- join http://www.reddit.com/r/trisquel/Sep 15 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trisquel GNU/Linux .::. Size~: 37.7 KBSep 15 23:01
schestowitzit's oldSep 15 23:01
DaemonFCUnity does break a lot of existing, popular, softwareSep 15 23:01
DaemonFCwhen it's not busy committing suicide and respawning pieces of itselfSep 15 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Longtime !Mozilla VP Mike Shaver Steps Down ⚫ Jason Kincaid http://goo.gl/FwiqdSep 15 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Longtime Mozilla VP Mike Shaver Steps Down | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 52.09 KBSep 15 23:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/status/114457237887524864Sep 15 23:10
TechrightsBot-tr@qubitarkhive: @schestowitz gardasil has recombinant dna and mass marketing, and you defend governmentSep 15 23:10
schestowitz???Sep 15 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Government Site in Egypt Launched by Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/53fkn #egypt #mubarak #microsoft #lockinSep 15 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Government Site in Egypt Launched by Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/53fkn #wlfind #cablegate !wlSep 15 23:12
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Government Site in Egypt Launched by Bill Gates | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.76 KBSep 15 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now for Singapore to do the same. Scrap the ISA now! #fb http://ur1.ca/53fl1Sep 15 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Brazil’s “Anti-American Ideology” http://ur1.ca/53fo5 #brazil #wlfind #cablegate #imperialism #ethanolSep 15 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Brazil’s “Anti-American Ideology” http://ur1.ca/53fo5 #america #colony #fuel #energy #ooxml #odfSep 15 23:37
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Brazil’s “Anti-American Ideology” | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.72 KBSep 15 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] In Oracle case, judge throws out Google's summary judgment motion on copyright almost entirely http://bit.ly/qAYtFKSep 15 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] Judge presiding over Oracle v. Google case makes it clear: API files aren't generally non-copyrightable http://bit.ly/qAYtFKSep 15 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Hadn't heard?! Early bird registrations are now open for #LCA2012 linux.conf.au! bit.ly/p0bbql #linux #opensource #conference #AUSep 15 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Democracy Day!Sep 15 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why on earth does !Gnome 3 make it harder to delete files? That's either an insult or a wind upSep 15 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Although Democracy Day is International !Fairvote Canada has beefed it up with !DemocracyWeek events across Canada http://ur1.ca/52p6fSep 15 23:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @jargon: baffling,sad and infuriating (all at the same time) that indian women are on the brink of extinction. 2tu.us/3huy :(Sep 15 23:50

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