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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I agree too much coverage. Who is happy at death? What I am worried about is that you who I know would think I am happy at a persons death. | Oct 07 00:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fsf: GNU PDF project leaves high-priority projects list; mission complete -- http://ur1.ca/5bjyu #gnu #fsf #lp | Oct 07 00:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux World Domination in Phones Not a One-Horse Race http://is.gd/PA70TG #android #intel #meego #limo | Oct 07 00:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Colour... Is the new Identi.ca blue; powder blue or Scottish blue. | Oct 07 00:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Intel and Samsung Mount Android Attack | TRCB News .::. Size~: 22.63 KB | Oct 07 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Voice-controlled Robot Arm Runs #Linux http://is.gd/wYfIbT | Oct 07 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "... She looks around for a weapon. Who keeps weapons in the bathroom? Draino maybe? "~ !InconstantMoon posted: http://ur1.ca/5bkiw !SelfPub | Oct 07 00:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to make a voice-controlled robot arm for $55 | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 39.63 KB | Oct 07 00:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Oracle previews RHEL-ish 2 Linux kernel http://is.gd/nYJZJk Ellison 'pulls a Jobs', "copies great ideas". #redhat | Oct 07 00:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle previews RHEL-ish 2 Linux kernel • The Register .::. Size~: 28.76 KB | Oct 07 00:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I will try not to say this for a while. !Tzaf we are not being led we are being farmed. | Oct 07 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/brianflannery/statuses/122086749110407168 | Oct 07 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @brianflannery: @schestowitz cc @sbhackerspace Nice toy.. | Oct 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RuiSeabra/statuses/122038194215727104 | Oct 07 00:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @RuiSeabra: Boy, I guess Microsoft's #swpat racketeering is ready to replace IBM's famous racketeering case against Sun as anedotical example. | Oct 07 00:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A few words from @bakerinstitute on how #privacy online protects free speech, w/ shout-outs to @torproject and @evacide https://eff.org/r.D9 | Oct 07 00:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nokia Has Just Confirmed Working On Meltemi #Linux | Oct 07 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Any ideas how I can get my #klipper to work again? Works fine for other/new users on my system. Cleaning out configs didn't help. !kde | Oct 07 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Accounting Software #GNUcash Accounts For #Google Summer of Code http://ur1.ca/5bktg #gsoc | Oct 07 00:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] esp. with gnustep already there. | Oct 07 00:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Still Entering the Corporate Press http://is.gd/Sgc3P4 | Oct 07 00:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ArchBang #GNU #Linux in Review: Based on #ArchLinux http://is.gd/j314Ej | Oct 07 00:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] this is why we're seeing diseases coming back that we thought were dead.... | Oct 07 00:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ArchBang Is Lightweight & Always Up To Date [Linux] .::. Size~: 39.86 KB | Oct 07 00:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Safe•Connect security vulnerability exposed, fixed. But general creepiness of network monitoring programs persists. https://eff.org/r.4Dy | Oct 07 01:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17: Early Discussions, Codename http://ur1.ca/5bdzs | Oct 07 01:03 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] F17 Might Be The Beefy Miracle To The Precise Pangolin .::. Size~: 18.17 KB | Oct 07 01:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cancer Doctor Saves Lives - Part 2/2 - NaturalNews.tv | "Cancer, Fraud and the FDA" Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski http://goo.gl/5efxT | Oct 07 01:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cancer Doctor Saves Lives - Part 2/2 - NaturalNews.tv .::. Size~: 28.22 KB | Oct 07 01:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yes, because people aren't vaccinating | Oct 07 01:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] what are you talking about? Yes the odd non vaccination is okay but if it catches on it's a recipe for disaster. | Oct 07 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] for most vaccines no. | Oct 07 01:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] generally I think preventing epidemics would be a good use of government... | Oct 07 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | 20 ways to break Linux http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/20-ways-to-break | Oct 07 01:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 6/10/2011: Linux 3.1 is Imminent, Android Extends Lead Over iOS http://is.gd/nhTQdr #techrights | Oct 07 01:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] no....do you advocate removal of all health and/or safety regulations? | Oct 07 01:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 6/10/2011: Linux 3.1 is Imminent, Android Extends Lead Over iOS | Techrights .::. Size~: 124.37 KB | Oct 07 01:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] actually removal of regulation tends to be a conservative thing in the US. in any case your question before made no sense. | Oct 07 01:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] if doesn't want vaccines: wants freedom only in software | Oct 07 01:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Calif. Appeals Court Approves Cell Phone Searches - Slashdot - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/W4nyh | Oct 07 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] what was this in reply to? | Oct 07 01:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » How the USA imposes travel bans within Europe #eu #pnr #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/86dp7 via £og€x | Oct 07 01:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] seems to be the general trends, I know that at least I want more and tighter regulations | Oct 07 01:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] okay, still not making sense...english is off tonight I suppose. | Oct 07 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Database: Why Criminal Governments Spy On Citizens - #surveillance #world #policestate http://goo.gl/2tgOw | Oct 07 01:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Bush Regime Also Carrried Out Gun-Walking Program: Wide Receiver, Possibly Others #usa #mic http://goo.gl/ALQmb | Oct 07 01:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Russia Claims New Arctic Hydrocarbon Finds Effectively Double Nations Reserves | ZeroHedge #peakoil http://goo.gl/0SLLw | Oct 07 01:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Guest Post: Russia Claims New Arctic Hydrocarbon Finds Effectively Double Nations Reserves | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 170.13 KB | Oct 07 01:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Depends where you live.. an armed bathroom is a polite bloodsoaked bathroom ;) IM | Oct 07 01:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Meanwhile #Greece Just Bought 400 Tanks From The US - #WTF #bankingsystem #crooks #policestate http://goo.gl/Y8jkM | Oct 07 01:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] no, we're saying that bad studies can't be trusted. | Oct 07 01:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "In The Absence Of A Credible Plan We Will Have A Global Financial Meltdown In Two To Three Weeks" - IMF Advisor 0Hedge http://goo.gl/G3tNZ | Oct 07 01:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC Does It Again: "In The Absence Of A Credible Plan We Will Have A Global Financial Meltdown In Two To Three Weeks" - IMF Advisor | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 166.73 KB | Oct 07 01:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] the situation being? that isn't very precise. | Oct 07 02:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Who could not agree with that? | Oct 07 02:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf GNU PDF project leaves high-priority projects list; mission complete -- http://ur1.ca/5bjyu !gnu !fsf !lp | Oct 07 02:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] California - The "End of America" is beginning in California - #collapse http://goo.gl/Uw7sb | Oct 07 02:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] spcl. needs as in allergic to vaccines? | Oct 07 02:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] NYPD officer anonymously answers questions about !OccupyWallStreet - banks have been making big bribes to the tune of $4.5M http://nd.gd/yd | Oct 07 02:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: simple_questions comments on IAmA Police officer working at OccupyWallstreet. Ask me anything! .::. Size~: 170.46 KB | Oct 07 02:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I just wish we had a doctor in our village. | Oct 07 02:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Taking the mick.. no! | Oct 07 02:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/5bmfj | Oct 07 02:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] This is the statement of the !OccupyWallStreet movement. Our movement. http://ur1.ca/5bmfp Spread it far and wide! | Oct 07 02:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Finally managed to talk to the captain of Beard Team USA... the burns will be competing at the US Nationals this weekend in Lancaster, PA | Oct 07 02:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @quaid @bkuhn I think I see where you are going. I recommend having patience for #RedHat to do it right, but nagging never hurt a FLO ... | Oct 07 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Yes, #maildir is definitely one of the things #djb got right. | Oct 07 02:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Hm. I wonder, if I make a subdirectory a #btrfs subvolume instead, does that affect the layout of the file data? | Oct 07 02:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks and the Arab Spring | Al Jazeera http://t.co/tduDZroy | Oct 07 02:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 02:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Extrajudicial execution by secret Whitehouse committee | Salon http://t.co/FTjusZVX | Oct 07 02:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 02:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke I don't think it would. at most it would affect metadata placement, but probably not by much, if at all | Oct 07 02:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] What's the ratio of #StatusNet's owners to users? 0.001% give or take a decimal point? We all live in a set of nested glass houses. | Oct 07 03:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Trying to post from the $@&! Cellphone *ugh* | Oct 07 03:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Stopping at @camdearlove's victory party w00t !! | Oct 07 03:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @lstench can't be that bad. ... < sure it can :( | Oct 07 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Now I understand why people like angry birds so much ... anything's better than typing on phone | Oct 07 03:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | [22:27] <Treeki> how are queries passed to the goodie? | Oct 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | [22:30] <DaemonFC> magic (that turtleneck duck is still up, right?) | Oct 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | [22:30] <DaemonFC> :) | Oct 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | [22:32] <DaemonFC> oh, no, it's gone | Oct 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | [22:32] <DaemonFC> it died of cancer after rejecting "western" medicine in favor of quackery ;) | Oct 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | (duck duck go) | Oct 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | Spacechem (from the Humble Bundle) | Oct 07 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | uses Mono | Oct 07 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 03:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Joy. The server is up, but unreachable. Rather than pound my head against the wall, I'm editing a novella. #amwriting #MyWANA | Oct 07 03:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruceperens/@bruceperens] Commentary on the Olson case http://ur1.ca/5bn4k | Oct 07 03:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bank of America Blames Website Slowness on Upgrade, the 1% lies again http://identi.ca/url/54012886 | Oct 07 04:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/20/my-chemical-romance-zach-barth-interview/ | Oct 07 04:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Yet no mention of the fact that it’s available for Penguin PC’s and Fruity PC’s… | Oct 07 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | (Via the magic of .NET/MONO) | Oct 07 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Oct 07 04:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Feds threaten California medical marijuana dispensaries with prosecution http://identi.ca/url/54012907 | Oct 07 04:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oracle To Pay US Almost $200M To Resolve False Claims Lawsuit http://identi.ca/url/54012913 !java | Oct 07 04:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Astronomers Find Three Exoplanets In Old Hubble Images http://identi.ca/url/54012924 http://identi.ca/url/54012925 !science | Oct 07 04:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Calif. Appeals Court Approves Cell Phone Searches During Traffic Stops, violates Constitution http://identi.ca/url/54012939 | Oct 07 04:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Decrees and Buses: How the Open Government Partnership Translates into Action in Brazil http://identi.ca/url/54012944 | Oct 07 04:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] XKCD remembers Steve Jobs http://identi.ca/url/54012990 | Oct 07 04:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Who Steve Jobs really was http://identi.ca/url/54013025 | Oct 07 04:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs didn’t | asymco .::. Size~: 34.82 KB | Oct 07 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Unity is currently broken with xorg-edgers because it requires Ubuntu's nonstandard utouch modifications to the X server | Oct 07 04:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wolfram remembers Steve Jobs during the NeXT years http://identi.ca/url/54013054 | Oct 07 04:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @openhatchery Especially for women looking to join a community: attend intro-to-open-source tutorials with KDE! http://ur1.ca/5abct | Oct 07 04:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: life at the end of the universe » Teaching the next Adas – join KDE for Ada Lovelace Day tutorials .::. Size~: 34.46 KB | Oct 07 04:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @kfogel Enemies of the Internet, who think that *publishing* time zone information is the same as copyrighting it: http://bit.ly/rudKKh | Oct 07 05:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] I'm not celebrating the death of anybody. Not #Saddam, not #Osama, and certainly not #Jobs. | Oct 07 05:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @csolisr Respect the man. Criticize the legacy. | Oct 07 05:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @mike For those who errantly have claimed that Steve Jobs invented the mouse - no he did not. It was invented by Doug Engleba http:// ... | Oct 07 06:42 | |
| Diablo-D3 | LOL | Oct 07 06:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | people claimed that? | Oct 07 06:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | all steve jobs did was make it easier to use for one fingered people. | Oct 07 06:47 |
| *Diablo-D3 feels bad :< | Oct 07 06:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fsf GNU PDF project leaves high-priority projects list; mission complete -- http://ur1.ca/5bjyu !gnu !fsf !lp | Oct 07 06:57 | |
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| MinceR | one-fingered people with one neuron | Oct 07 07:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A few words from @bakerinstitute on how privacy online protects free speech, w/ shout-outs to @torproject and @evacidehttps://eff.org/r.D92 | Oct 07 07:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Internet privacy protects free speech | Baker Institute Blog | a Chron.com blog .::. Size~: 47.15 KB | Oct 07 07:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 99% http://ur1.ca/5bow5 is what the "occupy wallstreet" protesters call themselves; most humans are the 99% not the 1% who own the world | Oct 07 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "+occupySeattle kitchen staff are badly in need of a battery powered light-- is there any way someone cou... http://b1t.it/GhJ | Oct 07 07:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 99% Wall Street protesters boo CEOs, but mourn Steve Jobs - CSMonitor.com .::. Size~: 74 KB | Oct 07 07:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] *so* happy to be denting on computer | Oct 07 07:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Need sleep, Gnite. #tzag | Oct 07 07:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Judge Makes Company Pay More For Infringement Because The CEO Complained Publicly About The Patent System http://identi.ca/url/54014733 !eff | Oct 07 07:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge Makes Company Pay More For Infringement Because The CEO Complained Publicly About The Patent System | Techdirt .::. Size~: 187.62 KB | Oct 07 07:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] voted for "yes, I am. Not only that I try to "be the change I wish to see"" | Oct 07 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @chriswaterguy Starting work moving !Appropedia to #Semantic #MediaWiki - exciting! will be paying close attention to usability !SMW | Oct 07 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @ddevine: Pioneer One Episode 5 is out now! Go download this *excellent* free series. http://ur1.ca/5bpbj | Oct 07 08:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] possibilities? endless. | Oct 07 08:58 | |
| schestowitz | > You left out Barkto. One of the original Microsoft trolls. | Oct 07 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > http://lists.essential.org/1998/am-info/msg01529.html | Oct 07 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Mark | Oct 07 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Do Volunteers Write Better Code? http://is.gd/alsSfj same reason people good take care of own kids | Oct 07 09:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84462310 | Oct 07 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @dickturpin: Breaking News: "It's Friday!" | Oct 07 09:20 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84462310 | Oct 07 09:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84462310 | Oct 07 09:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 07:48:28 UTC - Identi.ca: #Pandigital #SuperNova Makes #Linux Tablets http://ur1.ca/5bpky | Oct 07 09:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/122219027648090112?iid=am-133564127713179742617078521&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Oct 07 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz I'm not at the PC right now so I can't see the website. Have you ever used one? What distro do they use? Competitive? | Oct 07 09:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @dickturpin: Ctrl+z is your friend. | Oct 07 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Forgiving the usage of "manu" here, X11R5 is still going strong http://ur1.ca/5bpyl | Oct 07 09:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "What makes #ACTA so controversial (and why MEPs should care)" bit.ly/pw4TR0 | Oct 07 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The 4 Trillion Euro Fantasy http://ur1.ca/5bq0u #economy #eu | Oct 07 09:37 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 08:07:11 UTC - Identi.ca: Who Wrote Hadoop? It's the Community, Stupid http://is.gd/e4jxJX #hadoop #bigdata | Oct 07 09:45 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 07 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Android has really become the main Linux-based OS on devices | Oct 07 09:51 |
| MinceR | should have been a GNU/Linux OS instead | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | for the time being at least it's not symbian or hypeOS | Oct 07 10:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/06/air-penguin-drops-sky-android/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29 | Oct 07 10:05 |
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| OliveGreen | Hi all | Oct 07 10:07 |
| OliveGreen | I am MadRobot, btw. :) | Oct 07 10:07 |
| schestowitz | o/ | Oct 07 10:07 |
| schestowitz | hi, omar | Oct 07 10:07 |
| OliveGreen | Hey Dr. Roy. :) | Oct 07 10:08 |
| OliveGreen | I wanted to ask you. | Oct 07 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony Itches to Return to Mobile Arms Race http://is.gd/EqV88I they use #android | Oct 07 10:08 | |
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| OliveGreen | I dunno why despite the fact that I never like Steve Jobs, that I somehow felt sad that he had kicked the bucket.. :\ | Oct 07 10:09 |
| OliveGreen | liked* | Oct 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | did you watch TV? | Oct 07 10:10 |
| OliveGreen | hmm yeah.. | Oct 07 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft has just sent its trolls and its moles to help tax Linux. I will write about it later today. | Oct 07 10:10 | |
| OliveGreen | What about it? | Oct 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz | It's full of PR. They thrive in motivating people to admire and want to be like the super-rich, there is nothing new about it. Your heroes in extreme capitalism are supposed to be famous rich people. | Oct 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | It's tragic that he ded | Oct 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | *Died | Oct 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | But I know people much more worthy of sympathy | Oct 07 10:11 |
| OliveGreen | schestowitz: I agree. But it's probably not because I watched it on TV. | Oct 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxmPuBOiPM | Oct 07 10:11 |
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| OliveGreen | And yeah. I guess you're right. | Oct 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | OliveGreen: so if someone just told you he died and you then made no contact with net/people about it, would you feel the same? | Oct 07 10:12 |
| MinceR | pretty much all the other people who died that day are more worthy of sympathy | Oct 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | it's awareness of one's death that makes someojne cares | Oct 07 10:12 |
| OliveGreen | So many righteous people die for great causes, but never recieve the respect that deserve. | Oct 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | 160,000 people died yesterday | Oct 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | I ddn't care much | Oct 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know any of these people | Oct 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | But if someone told me the life story of one, I probably would be saddened | Oct 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | [10:12] <OliveGreen> So many righteous people die for great causes, but never recieve the respect that deserve. | Oct 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | I once rather that MArtin Luther King got a lot of credit while those who sacrificed more and died never have their name even mentioned (let alone have a day dedicated to them) | Oct 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | [10:12] <MinceR> pretty much all the other people who died that day are more worthy of sympathy | Oct 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | Well, they are likely to have caused less damage to the community/civilisation | Oct 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | I guess I'll write something about Jobs later | Oct 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | It has been 2 days, now it's not qualifying as dancing on someone's grave | Oct 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | nobody does hype like apple | Oct 07 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] IMHO. It is not the banks that are in trouble, it is the fiat money system. Why does noone start to question the ration... http://b1t.it/Gi6 | Oct 07 10:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Return of Linux.com http://ur1.ca/5bqjq | Oct 07 10:18 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi schestowitz MinceR | Oct 07 10:35 |
| MinceR | hay | Oct 07 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | and anyone else here | Oct 07 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: this is interesting: http://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29 | Oct 07 10:35 |
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| MinceR | i mostly agree with him | Oct 07 10:36 |
| MinceR | except for the "nobody deserves to have to die" part | Oct 07 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | Oh? | Oct 07 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] The Elections for The Document Foundation Board of Directors is about to start: https://elections.documentfoundation.org/2011/ !libo !tdf | Oct 07 10:37 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: well as of yesterday I find out that my litle brother wants a Ipod, well already knew that really I guess | Oct 07 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | so I think about Ipods and Linux hmm | Oct 07 10:37 |
| MinceR | his problem | Oct 07 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: and he's to young to be explaiend to about why having an Ipod isn't really that great | Oct 07 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: was trying to get my Dad to get him one as well, and I heard something | Oct 07 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | actsauly I think that was the day before yesterday | Oct 07 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lubuntu #GNU #Linux on Sub-notebooks http://is.gd/uc8KBZ | Oct 07 10:38 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: that Stallman comment could e seen as offensive by some or many really | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | ,but eh | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | well | Oct 07 10:39 |
| MinceR | i'm sure it will be | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | loads of people make fun of Richard Stallman in a bad way :( | Oct 07 10:39 |
| MinceR | the crApple fanboys see everything that portrays their god in anything but the most positive way as an insult | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | and loads of people think Steve Jobbs was so great for example | Oct 07 10:39 |
| MinceR | loads of people are ignorant and stupid | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | indeed | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | consumer sheeps | Oct 07 10:39 |
| MinceR | that doesn't make RMS or Homer any less right about jobs | Oct 07 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | Homer ? | Oct 07 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | Homer Simpson | Oct 07 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 10:40 |
| MinceR | no | Oct 07 10:40 |
| MinceR | http://slated.org/good_riddance_steve_jobs | Oct 07 10:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman's comment on Steve Jobs' death http://ur1.ca/5bqdl | Oct 07 10:40 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: you got that from me didn't you? | Oct 07 10:40 |
| MinceR | sentimentalism and religious beliefs about dead people don't change the facts either | Oct 07 10:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I think from a business point of view, Steve Jobs acheived a lot | Oct 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | sure | Oct 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | he managed to get a lot of money through his evil ways | Oct 07 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | however yeah loads of people think Apple is so cool, when realy it's not that great | Oct 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | and i'm sure that most people who worship money worship him for that | Oct 07 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | uh quite a few people it seems to me, use Ubuntu, since it has money behind it | Oct 07 10:43 |
| MinceR | ubuntu is turning into a gratis macos clone | Oct 07 10:43 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, thank you | Oct 07 10:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah pretty much | Oct 07 10:45 |
| sebsebseb | I guess | Oct 07 10:45 |
| MinceR | bbl | Oct 07 10:46 |
| iophk | MinceR: plus Mono | Oct 07 10:46 |
| schestowitz | kubuntu is not | Oct 07 10:47 |
| iophk | kubuntu and xubuntu are free from Mono so far | Oct 07 10:47 |
| schestowitz | De Icaza is turning into a gratis Microsoft mole | Oct 07 10:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: richard dale and another devs tried to add c# support to kde | Oct 07 10:48 |
| iophk | De Icaza has always been one | Oct 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz | but we called them out, they don't like me now :> | Oct 07 10:48 |
| iophk | they attack anyone who calls them out, in any way | Oct 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Poll at Murdoch's rag http://online.wsj.com/community/groups/question-day-229/topics/apple-google-makes-best-mobile?commentid=3154333 | Oct 07 10:49 |
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| iophk | The page appears to use Flash :( | Oct 07 10:50 |
| iophk | blech | Oct 07 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PC Pro is well behind the news... http://ur1.ca/5br5l | Oct 07 10:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Richard Stallman's comment on Steve Jobs' death http://ur1.ca/5bqdl | Oct 07 10:52 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: I know | Oct 07 10:53 |
| schestowitz | doesn't show up here | Oct 07 10:53 |
| iophk | afaik Lubuntu is also free of Mono. Shame about the main distro. | Oct 07 10:53 |
| schestowitz | THey need to inject the poison into the main distro | Oct 07 10:54 |
| schestowitz | BTW, check this out | Oct 07 10:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/10/likewise-signs-microsoft-patent-deal.html | Oct 07 10:54 |
| schestowitz | TechFlash | Oct 07 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | and the Microsoft boys from LikeWise | Oct 07 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Todl ya thery were trouble | Oct 07 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft-taxed smaba | Oct 07 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Also in the news: | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/241364/motorola_faces_new_lawsuit.html | Oct 07 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/241364/motorola_faces_new_lawsuit.html | Oct 07 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | Bil's buddy nathan | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | starting to have his extortions going public | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | goign after Linux/Android | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Google/Moto | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | White-collar crime | Oct 07 10:55 |
| iophk | Too bad. | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Can we have nathan and bill arrested yet? | Oct 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz | RICO Act | Oct 07 10:55 |
| iophk | They should be eligible under the RICO act, as you mention. | Oct 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | it's not enforced | Oct 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Remember | Oct 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Jobs is a hero | Oct 07 10:56 |
| iophk | Extortion should not be allowed as a business model. | Oct 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Gates is an angel | Oct 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to the Land of the Plutocrat, Home of the Money | Oct 07 10:56 |
| iophk | Jobs did some great things, that causes many to look past the ones that are ultimately harmful. | Oct 07 10:56 |
| iophk | Apple started out open, and OS X was heading open near its begining | Oct 07 10:57 |
| schestowitz | hjobs had showmanship | Oct 07 10:57 |
| schestowitz | I think wozniak was the doer | Oct 07 10:57 |
| iophk | Currently not even Fink is available for OS X 10.6 and 10.7 | Oct 07 10:57 |
| iophk | at least not as a pre-packaged insallation | Oct 07 10:58 |
| iophk | !google fink os x | Oct 07 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Fink - Home | http://www.finkproject.org/ | Oct 07 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Fink - Download Quick Start | http://www.finkproject.org/download/ | Oct 07 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fink - Upgrade Instructions for Mac OS X 10.6 | http://www.finkproject.org/download/10.6-upgrade.php | Oct 07 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Fink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fink | Oct 07 10:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxIT takes strategic role in #Bristol Council deal http://is.gd/i652kd | Oct 07 11:00 | |
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| iophk | too bad Woz was incapacitated by the plane crash. More great things would have come from him. | Oct 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | He seems like a nice person, bit.. | Oct 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | but | Oct 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | He defended a patent troll, Traul Allen | Oct 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | He also said some nagative things about FOSS | Oct 07 11:01 |
| iophk | Apple II and II+ were open. | Oct 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Which leaves me wondering if he would have been FOSS-respecting | Oct 07 11:01 |
| iophk | !google wozniak plane crash | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Steve Wozniak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - iWoz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IWoz | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Stephen Wozniak: Biography from Answers.com | http://www.answers.com/topic/stephen-wozniak | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Steve Wozniak Facts - 10 Facts About Steve Wozniak | http://sanfrancisco.about.com/od/attractionslandmark1/a/stevewozniak.htm | Oct 07 11:02 |
| iophk | It took out some of his memory. | Oct 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | !google ellison air violation | Oct 07 11:02 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CITY OF AUSTIN HIPAA PRIVACY PRACTICES | http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/hippaprivacy.htm | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Upper Big Branch Report | http://www.nttc.edu/programs%26projects/minesafety/disasterinvestigations/upperbigbranch/chapter7.asp | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - FAA Medical Certification Issues / Substance Abuse | http://www.leftseat.com/drugscase.htm | Oct 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | !google larry ellison aviation violation | Oct 07 11:02 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Oracle CEO Larry Ellison in Tree Dispute with Neighbors - WSJ.com | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303654804576343763766328484.html | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Privacy - Surveillance & Wiretapping Archive | http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/ | Oct 07 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Mogulite | News and Opinion | Business: Entertainment, Tech ... | http://www.mogulite.com/ | Oct 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | He spoke about how he probably flew under a bridge | Oct 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | like an arrogant cock | Oct 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Which to me was a hallmark of wall sreet | Oct 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Not only super ruich | Oct 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | But knowingly joepaardising society and not giving a *** because they are so much better | Oct 07 11:03 |
| iophk | It would be funny if he were to donate some of his money to SFLC, EFF or FSF. | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | oh, goodie... should be a sunny afternoon today, I can blog outside | Oct 07 11:04 |
| iophk | That would be a real act of charity. | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | why would he? | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | I herad he gave some money to hospitals | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | But probably some symbolic amounts | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | like in a checklist | Oct 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | PR - CHECK | Oct 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | ""Appears like charitable" - CHECK | Oct 07 11:05 |
| iophk | Yeah, it's probably mostly or entirely PR | Oct 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "Good family guy" - CHECK | Oct 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "Grew-up-with-nothing perception" - CHECK | Oct 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "Kind and gentle" - CHECK | Oct 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "Photo with malnuourished African child" - CHECK | Oct 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | .. | Oct 07 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Glinner Remember that 'present' Blair&Co gave Gaddafi? He's suing bit.ly/oLxPWr >> ha! brilliantly put | Oct 07 11:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ID=20215 "The indie developers at Mac Games and More have released Throw Up" | Oct 07 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | They thre up on FOSS | Oct 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | *threw | Oct 07 11:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality Every article concerning Computer Science which includes the word 'magic' makes me !enraged | Oct 07 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Number of open source applications on government desktops doubles in #Malta http://ur1.ca/5brnx #eu | Oct 07 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] And @schestowitz found out, because of me mentioning in #techrights #IRC. Oh and probably many people will/would find his comment harsh. | Oct 07 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UK public administration's use of open source growing in importance http://ur1.ca/5bro7 they use it?! | Oct 07 11:17 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84464357 | Oct 07 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 10:11:44 UTC - Identi.ca: ComputerWeekly article from Accenture on "|Consumerisation-driven Open Source". As "open" as it gets at Accenture... | Oct 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84464338 | Oct 07 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 10:08:49 UTC - Identi.ca: What happened to the OSI? Been silent since the CPTN complaint. | Oct 07 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 90% Of Spanish Public Authorities Use Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/5brok #spain | Oct 07 11:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: eGov monitor - A Policy Dialogue Platform | Promoting Better Governance .::. Size~: 11.29 KB | Oct 07 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is funny. | Oct 07 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] really? missed that | Oct 07 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla releases #Thunderbird 8 Beta http://ur1.ca/5brpd | Oct 07 11:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla releases Thunderbird 8 Beta - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.9 KB | Oct 07 11:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] all the time; trouble is, it's pretty technical stuff, and it's easy for lobbyists to bamboozle them... | Oct 07 11:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] really? missed that | Oct 07 11:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Somebody needs to be punched in the dick http://identi.ca/url/54016763 | Oct 07 11:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 07 11:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Occupy Wall Street is an open source protest." http://is.gd/a35meW | Oct 07 11:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OCCUPY WALL STREET (the theory) - Global Guerrillas .::. Size~: 69.08 KB | Oct 07 11:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @schestowitz "Occupy Wall Street is an open source protest." http://identi.ca/url/54016771 | Oct 07 11:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OCCUPY WALL STREET (the theory) - Global Guerrillas .::. Size~: 69.08 KB | Oct 07 11:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP #TouchPads Reportedly Come in Multiple #Linux Flavours http://is.gd/AN9Gvq | Oct 07 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Interested in strategic !fs planing? Nominations for !Fellowship election in February 2012 http://ur1.ca/5brpw !gnu !fs | Oct 07 11:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP Investigates Android TouchPads | PCWorld .::. Size~: 70.07 KB | Oct 07 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nominations for Fellowship election in February 2012 « I love it here .::. Size~: 11.17 KB | Oct 07 11:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/2011/sep/16/tesco-shopping-supermarket-prices-check-writing | Oct 07 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Now it's illegal to write down prices in a Tesco supermarket | Money | The Guardian .::. Size~: 235.11 KB | Oct 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz | Lieberman... http://www.worksmanagement.co.uk/information-technology/news/open-source-it-security-chaos/37354/ | Oct 07 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Going open source can cause IT security chaos .::. Size~: 38.65 KB | Oct 07 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #JavaFX 2.0 arrives and heads for open source http://is.gd/t5kvDD good move, but does anyone need JavaFX? | Oct 07 11:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: JavaFX 2.0 arrives and heads for open source | Application Development | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 59.66 KB | Oct 07 11:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | roy, dont bring up javafx 2.0 | Oct 07 11:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt exist | Oct 07 11:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just more oracle fud | Oct 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz | Really? | Oct 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz | I thought they fires javafx staff ages ago | Oct 07 11:36 |
| schestowitz | *fired | Oct 07 11:36 |
| schestowitz | so maybe it's just SCOracle PR | Oct 07 11:36 |
| schestowitz | When they pullled the kibosh on OOo they said they moved it to incubation in apache | Oct 07 11:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | isnt that what I just said? | Oct 07 11:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: http://i.imgur.com/vRuFV.png | Oct 07 11:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 07 11:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are some people who simply do not deserve the right to free speech. | Oct 07 11:37 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Not safe for tweeting | Oct 07 11:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | not safe for not being punched in the dick. repeatedly. | Oct 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz | it's funny in a way | Oct 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz | They the hashtag get abused | Oct 07 11:40 |
| schestowitz | !google hastag apple microsoft store | Oct 07 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Hashtag creator brings his idea to Google+ | Deep Tech - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20080274-264/hashtag-creator-brings-his-idea-to-google/ | Oct 07 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BrantTosiPhoto (BrantTosiPhoto) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/branttosiphoto | Oct 07 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Apple Buys HP's Old Campus, HP Buys The Twitter Ads For #Apple ... | http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/30/hp-apple-twitter-ad/ | Oct 07 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Should Google+ invent its own Twitter-esque hashtag symbol? | http://thenextweb.com/google/2011/10/03/should-google-invent-its-own-twitter-esque-hashtag-symbol/ | Oct 07 11:40 |
| schestowitz | well, cannot remember how to find it | Oct 07 11:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: its not particularly funny | Oct 07 11:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, the guys dead | Oct 07 11:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft had some hastag displaying at the window in real time | Oct 07 11:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | who the fuck is ignorant to be happy hes dead | Oct 07 11:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | *ignorant enough | Oct 07 11:40 |
| schestowitz | and Apple clustists were gaming it | Oct 07 11:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: now THAT is funny | Oct 07 11:40 |
| schestowitz | Not sure about happy | Oct 07 11:41 |
| schestowitz | But some are relieved | Oct 07 11:41 |
| schestowitz | Keith for example.. http://slated.org/good_riddance_steve_jobs | Oct 07 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Good Riddance Steve Jobs | Slated .::. Size~: 54.97 KB | Oct 07 11:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah I saw that article already | Oct 07 11:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats just useless hatemongering | Oct 07 11:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but hey, I guess that just means Im a better person | Oct 07 11:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | "Or how about the time Jobs bribed the police to act like they were his private security agency, to kick down the front door to a journalist's home, seize his property and interrogate him like a criminal, just because of some crap iGadget accidentally lost by an Apple employee, after that journalist had already voluntarily contacted Apple and returned it to them?" | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxmPuBOiPM | Oct 07 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: :( - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.87 KB | Oct 07 11:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah uh | Oct 07 11:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hate to tell you | Oct 07 11:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats not what happened. | Oct 07 11:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | man Im not reading this again | Oct 07 11:43 |
| schestowitz | no need | Oct 07 11:43 |
| schestowitz | Watch the video | Oct 07 11:43 |
| schestowitz | Idiocy Inc. | Oct 07 11:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: Im tired of ignorant motherfuckers. | Oct 07 11:44 |
| schestowitz | Me too | Oct 07 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Who isn't? | Oct 07 11:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, sure, Steve Jobs did shit. He made money doing shit. | Oct 07 11:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | But hes dead. Let it go. | Oct 07 11:46 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84464346 | Oct 07 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 10:09:51 UTC - Identi.ca: “Steve Jobs,…pionero de la noción “chida” de computadora como cárcel, diseñada para separar a tontos de su #libertad, ha muerto”— #RMS | Oct 07 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: it's not about him | Oct 07 11:47 |
| schestowitz | But about the media | Oct 07 11:47 |
| schestowitz | And the distortion of the story | Oct 07 11:48 |
| schestowitz | we can't just let facts go all wonky | Oct 07 11:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | then why dont they attack the media | Oct 07 11:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im all for attacking the media | Oct 07 11:48 |
| schestowitz | That's what I'll do | Oct 07 11:48 |
| schestowitz | by pointing out inaccuracies about him | Oct 07 11:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, guess what, he sold computers to schools, and made money. | Oct 07 11:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | ZOMG! WHAT A TERRORIST! OOGAH BOOGAH! | Oct 07 11:48 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84464242 | Oct 07 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 10:00:55 UTC - Identi.ca: "Steve Jobs, …pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their #freedom, has died"— #RMS http://ur1.ca/5bqdl | Oct 07 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: 2011: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 786.53 KB | Oct 07 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: no, not that | Oct 07 11:49 |
| schestowitz | nothing to do with schools | Oct 07 11:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | a lot of people bring that up though | Oct 07 11:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, so he tried to fill schools with easier to use better designed computers that improved the education of kids even in the worst school systems in America | Oct 07 11:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he made money doing that | Oct 07 11:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not going to go shit on his grave over that | Oct 07 11:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: you know, even RMS should know better | Oct 07 11:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | his statement is biased due to bad blood between Apple and FSF | Oct 07 11:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] http://ur1.ca/5bs0p | Oct 07 11:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Quasicrystal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 81.01 KB | Oct 07 11:55 |
| schestowitz | apple and bsd have a connection | Oct 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz | and bsd people usually dislike rms | Oct 07 11:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | yup | Oct 07 11:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | because rms thinks bsd is an abombination | Oct 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz | nope | Oct 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz | abomination? | Oct 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz | straw man | Oct 07 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | pretend I can spell | Oct 07 11:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Princeton goes open access to stop staff handing all #copyright to journals – unless waiver granted http://is.gd/IAizJW | Oct 07 11:57 | |
| Diablo-D3 | he thinks bsd is, well, too free | Oct 07 11:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Princeton goes open access to stop staff handing all copyright to journals - unless waiver granted .::. Size~: 62 KB | Oct 07 11:57 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 07 11:57 |
| schestowitz | that's not the same as abomination | Oct 07 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you know what, I dont particularly give a fuck. | Oct 07 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | the software Im writing now? ASL2. | Oct 07 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | mine, only author, its a lib, and Im making it ASL2. | Oct 07 11:57 |
| schestowitz | he would advise developers not to make code which can further empower the proprietary threat | Oct 07 11:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | so RMS can ride my dick. | Oct 07 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, if he loses a few pounds first anyways | Oct 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz | I think some bsd folks are jealous because gpl won | Oct 07 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, gpl didnt "win" | Oct 07 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wasnt a contest to begin with | Oct 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: he's straight | Oct 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz | but I don't think he's find that insulting | Oct 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz | stop bringing up dicks BTW, you do that a lot | Oct 07 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude, he finds nothing insulting | Oct 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | true | Oct 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | he's used to it | Oct 07 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive flamed him personally, he has an iron hide | Oct 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | He's a prime target fo insults | Oct 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I lmao when I see insults of me | Oct 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz | depending on who these come from | Oct 07 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | but that isnt the point | Oct 07 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | guess what, software is BSD. | Oct 07 11:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | so goddamned what. | Oct 07 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not empowering proprietary software | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | no big deal | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | i haven't sen rms diss bsd much | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | maybe I missed it | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | he would say things about why they are not preserving freedom | Oct 07 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | proprietary software that uses BSD just is entering a market that already has a competitor, the code they're using to begin with. | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | but he would not, for example call then "evil" | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | he calls propruietary "evil" | Oct 07 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, go back like 20 years | Oct 07 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | RMS was really railing on BSD | Oct 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | show me, that would be cool | Oct 07 12:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | meh, too lazy to go look | Oct 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz | show or it never happend :-) | Oct 07 12:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | I am not Google. | Oct 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz | !google richard stallman attacks bsd | Oct 07 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - That Which We Call Free | KernelTrap | http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/That_Which_We_Call_Free | Oct 07 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BSD vs. GPL: But Why Are PEOPLE Fighting??? | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/02/04/civitl-wars-in-free-software/ | Oct 07 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - GNU General Public License - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License | Oct 07 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Stallman: 'OpenBSD Ports Suggests Non-Free Software' | http://www.osnews.com/story/19057/Stallman_OpenBSD_Ports_Suggests_Non-Free_Software_/ | Oct 07 12:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its been many many years since Ive cared to read RMS's writings | Oct 07 12:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes too political imo | Oct 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz | heh. [2] is us. | Oct 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz | !google richard stallman slams bsd | Oct 07 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - OpenBSD slams RIchard Stallman in release song... - Ubuntu Forums | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D777527 | Oct 07 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - GLU ~ GNU/Linux Users | http://www.infohelp.co.nz/glu.html | Oct 07 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Stallman: Screw Child Rearing; Contribute to Emacs! « Learning Lisp | http://lispy.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/stallman-screw-child-rearing-contribute-to-emacs/ | Oct 07 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Social aspects of the BSD vs. GPL debate | http://www.softpanorama.org/Copyright/index.shtml | Oct 07 12:02 |
| *Diablo-D3 clicks on 3 | Oct 07 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | freedom is politicial | Oct 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Occupy Wall Street is poltiical | Oct 07 12:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, and Im tired of politics | Oct 07 12:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | do or stfu. | Oct 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | you ca't properly disocciate one from the other | Oct 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft ia slso political | Oct 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft tunisia | Oct 07 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Wikileaks: Microsoft aided former Tunisian regime | Security | ZDNet ... | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security/2011/09/05/wikileaks-microsoft-aided-former-tunisian-regime-40093837/ | Oct 07 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft Worldwide Sites | http://www.microsoft.com/worldwide/phone/contact.aspx%3Fcountry%3DTunisia | Oct 07 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Tunisia - Français - Microsoft | http://www.microsoft.com/fr/tn/ | Oct 07 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Diplomats questioned Microsoft deal with Tunisian regime • The ... | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/05/microsoft_wikileaks_tunisia/ | Oct 07 12:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh I _can_ dissociate one from the other | Oct 07 12:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | its called blasting both sides at the same time | Oct 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | no | Oct 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | it's compatmentalising | Oct 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | *compart | Oct 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | like people who work in science and bleieve in invisible skydaddy | Oct 07 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, which is somewhat useless when you wish to reserve no space for such useless antics | Oct 07 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh, thats a nonsensical statement | Oct 07 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | God is a metaphor for human existence | Oct 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | to some | Oct 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | it varies | Oct 07 12:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | to the ones it isnt, they misunderstood the bible. | Oct 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I'd have people admit that it's the metaphorical one they adhere to | Oct 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Like the Einsteinian metaphor | Oct 07 12:05 |
| schestowitz | But it's not a God | Oct 07 12:05 |
| schestowitz | It's just a metaphor | Oct 07 12:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | the jews cemented this belief into the writings 4000 years ago. | Oct 07 12:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | it somehow got reinvented into some sort of actual Godhood post-Jesus | Oct 07 12:05 |
| schestowitz | There's different aspects to it | Oct 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | God of the Sun | Oct 07 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | Well, think about it | Oct 07 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | God made us in his image. | Oct 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | That thign that shines and grows our food and warms out skin | Oct 07 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | Not literally, obviously, but figuratively | Oct 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the one who decides on everything that happens | Oct 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | Then it's a placeholder for elements of chance and causality | Oct 07 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | Each in of ourselves, we are each a tiny God. | Oct 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | To some it's even more | Oct 07 12:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | Individually, we can't do anything, but coming together we can do much. | Oct 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | To some it's like a person created in our shadow (yes, not the other way around) to look at us all the time | Oct 07 12:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | Through this, we remain inexorably linked to the concept of God. | Oct 07 12:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | Any literal interpretation is nonsensical because thats not what the people who wrote it meant. | Oct 07 12:07 |
| schestowitz | bu then it's justa a word | Oct 07 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Don't call it "God", call it a "Steve" or something | Oct 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | I feel a Steve in me.. | Oct 07 12:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | it IS just a word. | Oct 07 12:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | also, that sounds dirty. | Oct 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | The other words are associated things people sacrifice animals and people to | Oct 07 12:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes, and as a global society we have moved beyond that kind of shit. | Oct 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | Not sure.. | Oct 07 12:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | Well, most of us has. | Oct 07 12:09 |
| schestowitz | Also, this enables people to claim a theism that does not exist | Oct 07 12:09 |
| *Diablo-D3 stares at NASCAR land. | Oct 07 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | If the defnitiion is warped to misclasify things | Oct 07 12:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | Theism DOES exist, but you have to actually define what God is | Oct 07 12:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is impossible outside of the most abstract terms | Oct 07 12:09 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 07 12:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | God, ultimately, is God. He said so himself. | Oct 07 12:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good news for USA unemployed wageslaves. Increasing labour costs in China mean some of them may get a really bad job. | Oct 07 12:10 | |
| Diablo-D3 | Its a pointless waste of time to consider God as anything else. | Oct 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Did you record him/her? | Oct 07 12:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | You know what I mean, Roy. | Oct 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, there's never vision/speech | Oct 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz | One of those contradictions | Oct 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Like depictions of it | Oct 07 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3right | Oct 07 12:11 |
| schestowitz | But now you mix reality with fantasy | Oct 07 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | If God actually chose to speak to someone, it'd be like getting smacked with pure concept itself. | Oct 07 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | It would be completely indescribable. | Oct 07 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Before you know it we end up with theories about reptoid aliens controlling the Earth and looking like humans | Oct 07 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yeah, thats absurd. | Oct 07 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: speech is slow | Oct 07 12:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Court of Appeal has granted permission to appeal the Digital Economy Act judicial review decision #DEAct >>fab | Oct 07 12:12 | |
| Diablo-D3 | Speech is slow and inexact | Oct 07 12:12 |
| schestowitz | we've moved on to better tech | Oct 07 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | And we can only describe things we have words for. | Oct 07 12:12 |
| schestowitz | in the past, Godcravs things in ston | Oct 07 12:12 |
| schestowitz | *stone | Oct 07 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | God never carved anything into stone. | Oct 07 12:12 |
| schestowitz | that was the good tech at that time | Oct 07 12:12 |
| MinceR | iophk: wozniak attacked free software, probably due to not understanding it | Oct 07 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: fucking time travel dude. | Oct 07 12:13 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: have fun | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Don't come back too soon | Oct 07 12:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | Hurr. | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | time travel | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | what are you, chicken? [mcfly] | Oct 07 12:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 12:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/barnes-and-noble-dropping-blackberry/4841 | Oct 07 12:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Barnes and Noble dropping BlackBerry | ZDNet .::. Size~: 110.59 KB | Oct 07 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Notuice the images in zdnet these days | Oct 07 12:15 |
| schestowitz | a bit like techrights | Oct 07 12:15 |
| schestowitz | very boggish | Oct 07 12:15 |
| schestowitz | they also 'copis' our layout :-) | Oct 07 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Summary: formatting | Oct 07 12:16 |
| MinceR | i doubt the warranty covers damage from dropping the device :> | Oct 07 12:16 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 07 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Does my palm still have warantee? | Oct 07 12:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: but no, as I was saying, scientists believing in God is really okay | Oct 07 12:16 |
| schestowitz | I think it was overdue by 2005 | Oct 07 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: then you have to ask them followup questions | Oct 07 12:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not about compartmentalization, its about understanding human psychology | Oct 07 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Like presence of invisible person, ghosts, flood, resurrection, etc. | Oct 07 12:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | strike flood off your list | Oct 07 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Some of them do it for reasons of tradition, family, fantasy | Oct 07 12:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | that actually did happen | Oct 07 12:17 |
| schestowitz | it did | Oct 07 12:17 |
| MinceR | yes, the entire planet was flooded | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | many times | Oct 07 12:18 |
| MinceR | where did the water come from? | Oct 07 12:18 |
| MinceR | where did it go? | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | asteroids hitting us | Oct 07 12:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: melting icecaps | Oct 07 12:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | but not the entire planet | Oct 07 12:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | just areas that have been under water for the past 20 thousand years. | Oct 07 12:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | like the arabian gulf used to be habitable land | Oct 07 12:18 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound consistent with that badly written work of fiction at all | Oct 07 12:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, its not that its a "work of fiction" | Oct 07 12:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | its that many cultures worldwide have a flood story | Oct 07 12:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but it's a best seller | Oct 07 12:19 |
| MinceR | floods happen, just not in that form | Oct 07 12:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the stories all originate from around the same time | Oct 07 12:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | the sea level dramatically rose and flooded many costal regions | Oct 07 12:19 |
| MinceR | Roy left out the best part, though -- the one about things being created in two different orders at the same time :> | Oct 07 12:20 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: because of the loch ness monster | Oct 07 12:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: nope | Oct 07 12:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats because people think the KJV is a valid translation | Oct 07 12:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | the original hebrew in Genesis 1 lists things God did using the accusational form of "did" | Oct 07 12:21 |
| MinceR | iirc it's the same in the NIV too | Oct 07 12:21 |
| schestowitz | oh, blaming translations now. I kniw *that* tricks.. | Oct 07 12:21 |
| schestowitz | *know *trick | Oct 07 12:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: its not that | Oct 07 12:22 |
| MinceR | yes. if some belief is in the cultist's agenda, the scripture he quotes was translated perfectly and is to be taken literally | Oct 07 12:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | people just dont care what the bible actually says | Oct 07 12:22 |
| MinceR | if not, then it wasn't and isn't | Oct 07 12:22 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 07 12:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | the bible says dont kill people. people dont care. they go do it every day. | Oct 07 12:22 |
| MinceR | they pick and choose what they like at the moment and present it as an eternal truth using a badly written work of fiction | Oct 07 12:22 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: it's the basis of the whole desert dogma | Oct 07 12:22 |
| MinceR | and they posture as paragons of morals and virtue | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: some of it | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | some of it is a record of history | Oct 07 12:23 |
| MinceR | some of /dev/urandom is a record of history | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not permission to go do things, its not even saying thats the right thing to do | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just saying it happened | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | other parts of it didnt happen, and it illustrates a point | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | but people take it literally | Oct 07 12:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I read that in my usual confused state as "..that make me love iphone so much," | Oct 07 12:23 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the bible simply isnt safe near idiots. | Oct 07 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | yet idiots clutch onto their bibles the hardest | Oct 07 12:24 |
| schestowitz | a delusional interpretation of why a batle was won or lost is not history | Oct 07 12:24 |
| schestowitz | it's like me writing that I aced some exam because I wore leather shoes that day | Oct 07 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Besides, historical rcords too do not align | Oct 07 12:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: but the part where you say you wore leather shoes is a record of history! :> | Oct 07 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: well, thats another problem | Oct 07 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | the history wasnt written to modern standards. | Oct 07 12:25 |
| schestowitz | An earthwuake might be describe as "God getting angry" rather than tectonic activity near high-risk areas | Oct 07 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | and these idiots who keep clutching onto their bibles keep hampering efforts to discover what really happened | Oct 07 12:26 |
| schestowitz | !google ruish blames japan earthwakes | Oct 07 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Quotatious: Rush Limbaugh Blames Japan's Environmental ... | http://www.good.is/post/quotatious-rush-limbaugh-blames-japan-s-environmental-consciousness-for-the-earthquake/ | Oct 07 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Earthquake in Japan: Help Google and Ushahidi - Good.is | http://www.good.is/post/google-people-finder-ushahidi-crisis-mapping-software-launched-for-japan-earthquake/ | Oct 07 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Rush Limbaugh blames media for Hurricane Irene hysteria | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/29/us-rushlimbaugh-idUSTRE77S6I520110829 | Oct 07 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Beck: "I'm Not Not Saying" God Is Causing Earthquakes | Media ... | http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103140010 | Oct 07 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: thats another thing | Oct 07 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | why the fuck do people do that | Oct 07 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats not religion | Oct 07 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats stupidity. | Oct 07 12:26 |
| MinceR | religion _is_ a form of stupidity | Oct 07 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not at all. | Oct 07 12:26 |
| MinceR | that's what it means. believing in some crackpot idea without any sort of proof. | Oct 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz | it's another set of laws | Oct 07 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: scroll up to what started this where I said God is a metaphor for human existence. | Oct 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz | if you cannot use maths and physics to defend a claim | Oct 07 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | None of the Bible is meant to be taken literally. | Oct 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz | then you turn to the FIsher Price of tools | Oct 07 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: see, you bring up a good point. | Oct 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz | like "because the man upstrairs did it" | Oct 07 12:27 |
| MinceR | how convenient | Oct 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Science 0.0.1 alpha | Oct 07 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Why do these ultra right wing religious fanatics attack Science? | Oct 07 12:28 |
| MinceR | because they're religious fanatics? | Oct 07 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | if God created the Universe and everything in it... God also created math and science. | Oct 07 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thus, scientific research is the ultimate worship of God. | Oct 07 12:28 |
| MinceR | that's inconsistent with some elements of their religion | Oct 07 12:28 |
| schestowitz | you still have people out there who think they got ill or cancer becuase they behaved badly and it's a punishment | Oct 07 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no, they're inconsistent with reality. | Oct 07 12:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "..provided the articles are not sold by the University for a profit.." | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| MinceR | like the bible mentioning "corners" of the earth | Oct 07 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Reality always wins. | Oct 07 12:28 |
| MinceR | if reality always wins, then religion always loses. | Oct 07 12:29 |
| schestowitz | [12:28] <Diablo-D3> Thus, scientific research is the ultimate worship of God. | Oct 07 12:29 |
| schestowitz | That's the "God created scientist" apologism | Oct 07 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes, but if science is the ultimate worship of God, and the act of worshipping is religion, that makes science a religion. | Oct 07 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thus, science loses. | Oct 07 12:29 |
| MinceR | hurr | Oct 07 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | If I troll any harder my head might explode. | Oct 07 12:29 |
| MinceR | better give up on trying to understand reality, then | Oct 07 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: honestly, for most people, thats probably a good idea | Oct 07 12:30 |
| MinceR | i have bad news for you, though -- some of the tools you're using to make your argument are based on that understanding | Oct 07 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: true | Oct 07 12:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: and no, the concept of creation on such a scale may not even make sense. | Oct 07 12:30 |
| schestowitz | but... | Oct 07 12:30 |
| MinceR | so either you're wrong or you're only imagining that you're arguing with us | Oct 07 12:30 |
| schestowitz | it's not good for society as a whole | Oct 07 12:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well, I cant prove you exist. | Oct 07 12:30 |
| schestowitz | sometimes stopping the fight against a cruel reality is the easy way out | Oct 07 12:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, like, if God created the Universe and all that is in it, then God is linked to everything forever and cannot extract himself from it. | Oct 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz | science as a ulility is not for provising proof of "existence" | Oct 07 12:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: nope | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | you have to first define existence | Oct 07 12:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | because it exists. | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | in science it means mass | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | and MinceR is made of mass | Oct 07 12:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge Makes Company Pay More For Infringement Because CEO Complained Publicly About The Patent System - http://bit.ly/pXiwdt fair? hardly | Oct 07 12:32 | |
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| MinceR | holy mass? | Oct 07 12:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: nope. | Oct 07 12:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | because you cant prove an idea exists. | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | and we know mass to be observable usually | Oct 07 12:32 |
| MinceR | actually things can exist without having mass | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | or measurable | Oct 07 12:32 |
| MinceR | information, for example | Oct 07 12:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | And God is just an idea. | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they're stored somehow | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | even if in electron s | Oct 07 12:32 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: actually you can prove logically inconsistent ideas wrong | Oct 07 12:32 |
| schestowitz | they have mass | Oct 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz | *Electrons | Oct 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: and the christian idea is logically inconsistent | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no | Oct 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: since it's defined by the bible, which contradicts itself | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | the TRUE christian idea isnt logically inconsistent | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | You know what Jesus said? | Oct 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | so mathematically, the christian god does not exist | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | Don't be a dick. | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thats what Jesus's entire message to humanity was. | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | Don't be a dick. | Oct 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | so you say | Oct 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | other christians say something else | Oct 07 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have absolutely no problem with this message. It is logically consistent. | Oct 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | most of them thump their bibles | Oct 07 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Christians who say otherwise did not read the Bible. | Oct 07 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | They only know what was told to them. | Oct 07 12:34 |
| schestowitz | did he patent the idea (if he existed)? | Oct 07 12:34 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: so, you define the christian god as someone who tells people not to be a dick? | Oct 07 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Nobody before him suggested being ethical | Oct 07 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | God suggested it in theory. | Oct 07 12:34 |
| schestowitz | in fact, prior to that, everyone was raping and mudering everyone | Oct 07 12:34 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: in that case, don't be a dick. and now i'm your god. :> | Oct 07 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Commandment 0 on the tablet is dont be a dick. | Oct 07 12:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | The 10 commandments are just a subset of that rule. | Oct 07 12:35 |
| schestowitz | then you have 11 commandmands | Oct 07 12:35 |
| MinceR | also, those christians who did read the bible base their faith on it, so see my first point | Oct 07 12:35 |
| schestowitz | commanndment a | Oct 07 12:35 |
| schestowitz | 11 | Oct 07 12:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: btw, you didnt hear what I said earlier | Oct 07 12:35 |
| MinceR | no, commandment 0 was "i'm the only god" or some bullshit like that | Oct 07 12:35 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: Zinglon has 11 commandments | Oct 07 12:35 |
| schestowitz | so there's 9 as decical 10 | Oct 07 12:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | if God made us in his image, he did not do so literally, he did so figuratively. | Oct 07 12:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | thus, we are all minature Gods. | Oct 07 12:36 |
| MinceR | http://members.iinet.net.au/~vannevar/tyrian/script.html#D-13 | Oct 07 12:36 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: `commandment 0 is "though shalt not prevent modifying humans" | Oct 07 12:36 |
| MinceR | well, at least it's not "thou shalt not create a machine in the image of god" | Oct 07 12:36 |
| MinceR | oops | Oct 07 12:36 |
| MinceR | s/god/human mind/ | Oct 07 12:36 |
| schestowitz | loll | Oct 07 12:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARGH HIS GO UP TO ELEVEN | Oct 07 12:37 |
| schestowitz | if he looks like us | Oct 07 12:37 |
| schestowitz | as the bible suggest | Oct 07 12:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: but what would god need a starship for? | Oct 07 12:37 |
| schestowitz | then we are replicas | Oct 07 12:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: god does not look like anything | Oct 07 12:37 |
| schestowitz | so if we worship one another, then we worship a replacement and are sinner | Oct 07 12:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, thats the whole hilarity of the Bible | Oct 07 12:37 |
| schestowitz | So we need NOT to worship people | Oct 07 12:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt come straight out and say GOD IS NOT MADE OF ... ANYTHING. | Oct 07 12:37 |
| schestowitz | that already sends all Apple cultists to hell | Oct 07 12:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, he created the Universe, right? | Oct 07 12:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | Mass and energy didnt exist until he went BAM | Oct 07 12:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | The laws of reality itself didnt exist. | Oct 07 12:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | To discuss what God is, literally, is nonsensical. | Oct 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: created in "his own image" | Oct 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: because it suits you better | Oct 07 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] voted for "Yes" | Oct 07 12:38 | |
| Diablo-D3 | Im just saying | Oct 07 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | Entire wars have been fought because people are idiots. | Oct 07 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | They cant read. | Oct 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz | but there's a contradiction there | Oct 07 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | A war of illiterates. | Oct 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz | if the bible says "own image:" | Oct 07 12:39 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: only you're claiming that "god" created the universe | Oct 07 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes, HIS image. | Oct 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz | then we can infer his/her appearance based on our own | Oct 07 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | No, we can infer our way of thought based on his. | Oct 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Which complicates things even futher because we come in many colours and sizes and shapes | Oct 07 12:39 |
| MinceR | and the problem is not that people can't read but that they base their lives on some badly written book instead of reason | Oct 07 12:40 |
| schestowitz | they don't even read it | Oct 07 12:40 |
| schestowitz | some do | Oct 07 12:40 |
| schestowitz | or just oortions | Oct 07 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: but it didnt say physical form. | Oct 07 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | read the original hebrew. | Oct 07 12:40 |
| schestowitz | #toolong #wonread !! | Oct 07 12:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lawrence Lessig on How We Lost Our Democracy - http://bit.ly/oQweaq tantalising except from #lessig's new book #lobbying | Oct 07 12:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lawrence Lessig on How We Lost Our Democracy | Lawrence Lessig | Rolling Stone .::. Size~: 68.79 KB | Oct 07 12:40 |
| MinceR | tl;dr | Oct 07 12:40 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: Aramaic | Oct 07 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | klingon | Oct 07 12:41 |
| schestowitz | god ling | Oct 07 12:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | But yes, I still will never get religious people | Oct 07 12:41 |
| schestowitz | you know, now that Jobs is dead he'll be like Kim Sung Ill | Oct 07 12:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | why make God into something he isnt, when hes already everything | Oct 07 12:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its illogical | Oct 07 12:41 |
| schestowitz | But not ill anymore | Oct 07 12:41 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: my thoughts exactly | Oct 07 12:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last link via http://ur1.ca/5bsce) | Oct 07 12:42 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | Okay, lets try this way | Oct 07 12:42 |
| schestowitz | He'll be like that person whom you pretebnd is still alive in spirot | Oct 07 12:42 |
| schestowitz | *rit | Oct 07 12:42 |
| MinceR | but i'll let the fanboys do it before making fun of them for it :> | Oct 07 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | God is _so_ everything, that he can be nothing too. | Oct 07 12:42 |
| MinceR | iirc clams do the 'pretend he's still alive' thing too (about LRH) | Oct 07 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARGH | Oct 07 12:42 |
| schestowitz | since many apple clustists are in the US, they'll be relighious and some will believe that Jobs watches them from above volunteering to be Apple's PR agents | Oct 07 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | LRH | Oct 07 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | if he wasnt dead, I'd fix that. | Oct 07 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: ... you know | Oct 07 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd _pay_ to see that | Oct 07 12:43 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: if god is "already everything", how can they "make god into something he isn't"? | Oct 07 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | door to door apple salesmen | Oct 07 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | carrying a leather bound apple catalogue | Oct 07 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: exactly! | Oct 07 12:43 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 07 12:43 |
| schestowitz | MLM apple | Oct 07 12:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: thats how nonsensical religious extremists are | Oct 07 12:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Who said that? | Oct 07 12:45 | |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they simply cant comprehend God is something beyond our ways of thinking | Oct 07 12:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | so we shouldnt think about it outside of abstract terms because, frankly, people go insane doing that | Oct 07 12:46 |
| MinceR | you can't seem to comprehend that this "god" does not exist :> | Oct 07 12:46 |
| MinceR | and its concept is perfectly unnecessary for anything | Oct 07 12:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: but thats the thing | Oct 07 12:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | God is an abstract concept. | Oct 07 12:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thus does, actually, exist. | Oct 07 12:46 |
| MinceR | a useless abstract concept | Oct 07 12:46 |
| MinceR | which in its most common versions is self-contradictory | Oct 07 12:47 |
| MinceR | but in any case, without practical usefulness | Oct 07 12:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not entirely. | Oct 07 12:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | A lot of people think psychology has no practical usefulness | Oct 07 12:47 |
| schestowitz | [12:45] <Diablo-D3> MinceR: they simply cant comprehend God is something beyond our ways of thinking << so are giant turtles 50 miles across at the centre of the Earth | Oct 07 12:48 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: psychology is not god | Oct 07 12:48 |
| MinceR | it's also not an abstract concept | Oct 07 12:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: no, that really is within our ways of thinking | Oct 07 12:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: you misunderstood | Oct 07 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #Princeton goes open access to stop staff handing all #copyright to journals – unless waiver granted http://is.gd/IAizJW | Oct 07 12:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #Mozilla releases #Thunderbird 8 Beta http://ur1.ca/5brpd | Oct 07 12:48 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | God was probably the first real abstract thought our distant ancestors had | Oct 07 12:49 |
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| MinceR | what a waste of an abstract thought | Oct 07 12:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | It gave way to the scientific mind. | Oct 07 12:49 |
| MinceR | didn't they think of the other half of their dual mind as "god"? | Oct 07 12:49 |
| MinceR | that's hardly abstract | Oct 07 12:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: Its not that. | Oct 07 12:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, we're looking at 24 thousand years of "modern" human society. | Oct 07 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Someone had to have the first clever thought eventually, otherwise we wouldn't be here. | Oct 07 12:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 12:50 |
| MinceR | i hope you don't call this "abstract god" thing a "clever thought" :> | Oct 07 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Understanding what God and religion truly are is an important part of understanding humanity. | Oct 07 12:51 |
| schestowitz | [12:48] <MinceR> Diablo-D3: psychology is not god | Oct 07 12:51 |
| schestowitz | psychology is measurable | Oct 07 12:51 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: they're easily understood. it's called a "delusion". | Oct 07 12:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: Yet, humans CAN have delusions. | Oct 07 12:52 |
| MinceR | but they shouldn't | Oct 07 12:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | And no, understanding abstract concepts isn't a delusion. | Oct 07 12:52 |
| MinceR | i think you missed a level of indirection or two, there | Oct 07 12:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Not quite. | Oct 07 12:53 |
| schestowitz | [12:50] <Diablo-D3> Someone had to have the first clever thought eventually, otherwise we wouldn't be here. << and how do you think bacteria feels about its existence? | Oct 07 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: it doesnt. | Oct 07 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | The whole thing is rather unique to us. | Oct 07 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | We have no other species to crib notes off of. | Oct 07 12:53 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: some bacteria are parts of us :> | Oct 07 12:53 |
| schestowitz | bull | Oct 07 12:54 |
| schestowitz | about notes | Oct 07 12:54 |
| schestowitz | and human intelligence | Oct 07 12:54 |
| schestowitz | other animals are smarter and better than us in some ways | Oct 07 12:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I mean, you can say what you want | Oct 07 12:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | But I'm still going to reject religious extremism | Oct 07 12:54 |
| schestowitz | We're self-important creatures, like most | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | some bacteria can eat you alive | Oct 07 12:55 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: you can say what you want, but i'm still going to reject religions :> | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | in the wild, many animals pwn you | Oct 07 12:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, but then you have to define religion | Oct 07 12:55 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: some bacteria are eating parts of us every day | Oct 07 12:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | religious extremists do not believe in God or religion. | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | in some skills, not just motoric, animals can outdo you | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | some animals speak to | Oct 07 12:55 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: perhaps the simplest way to put it would be "supernatural delusion" | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | esp. underwater animals, who sing as wll | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | *well | Oct 07 12:55 |
| schestowitz | developed mammals | Oct 07 12:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, but then you exclude, say, Judaism for not literally believing in an abstract concept. | Oct 07 12:56 |
| schestowitz | and they pass on their songs to younge generations, we just don'\t bother learning their vculture | Oct 07 12:56 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: afaik they believe in a person, not an abstract concept | Oct 07 12:56 |
| schestowitz | [12:55] <MinceR> schestowitz: some bacteria are eating parts of us every day << even our brains | Oct 07 12:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no, no Jew has said God is a person. | Oct 07 12:57 |
| schestowitz | some more than others | Oct 07 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: it's ,many prrsons | Oct 07 12:57 |
| schestowitz | many egos | Oct 07 12:57 |
| schestowitz | of people who subscribe o the fable | Oct 07 12:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: well, to say its a gestalt entity is somewhat nonsensical | Oct 07 12:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | as God is an abstract concept. | Oct 07 12:58 |
| schestowitz | they think they have an eternal life | Oct 07 12:58 |
| schestowitz | after they die | Oct 07 12:58 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: as for animals pwning you, you pwn other animals in some respects | Oct 07 12:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | God is a tool of introspection. | Oct 07 12:58 |
| MinceR | endurance, heat/cold tolerance | Oct 07 12:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: oddly, you DO have eternal life | Oct 07 12:58 |
| MinceR | color vision | Oct 07 12:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: just because you died doesn't mean you never existed | Oct 07 12:58 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <MinceR> schestowitz: as for animals pwning you, you pwn other animals in some respect | Oct 07 12:58 |
| schestowitz | owing to the concepts of other animals, we can tame all animals | Oct 07 12:58 |
| schestowitz | life is the joining of atoms in a structure instructed by DNA | Oct 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz | When you die | Oct 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Then there is no more connectivity there | Oct 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz | and atoms drift away to other life, other DNA | Oct 07 13:00 |
| schestowitz | So historic existence is another matter | Oct 07 13:00 |
| schestowitz | like claining that existence of a star after a supernova | Oct 07 13:00 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: existence != life | Oct 07 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, but life is an abstract concept | Oct 07 13:01 |
| MinceR | so? | Oct 07 13:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | hell, existence might be an abstract concept | Oct 07 13:01 |
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| Diablo-D3 | also, I have spent the last hour trolling | Oct 07 13:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | you people really need to stop doing that. | Oct 07 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Idiotic competition. Drugs and sport are analogous to government and business. | Oct 07 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84465122 | Oct 07 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 11:15:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz erhm... should I not write about how I'm getting Replicant installed on my HTC *Magic* ? :-D | Oct 07 13:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Khan Academy founder: “Helping people is more important than making money” | VentureBeat #education #humanity http://goo.gl/CFnAn | Oct 07 13:38 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84465698 | Oct 07 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 12:04:20 UTC - Identi.ca: Too big to fail is too big http://ur1.ca/5bsk0 | Oct 07 13:39 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Heh :) http://identi.ca/notice/84434455 | Oct 07 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 18:17:50 UTC - Identi.ca: #Android 4 will kick hypePhone4Ass in the ***. | Oct 07 13:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Costs of #UK’s colonial war in #Libya spiral - #nato #mic #crooks #collapse http://goo.gl/QW0yj | Oct 07 13:42 | |
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| iophk | The switch is from Red Hat to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS | Oct 07 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] got !replicant userland installed on an HTC Magic, but boot.img from preview/0008 won't boot. known problem? | Oct 07 13:50 | |
| iophk | No reasons given for the switch nor what the customizations are. | Oct 07 13:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Estado prepara corte de 1,6 mil milhões nas áreas sociais | Económico - #PT #collapse enquanto isso #TGV #aeroporto http://goo.gl/6Wddf | Oct 07 13:53 | |
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| iophk | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20117004-93/ice-cream-sandwich-to-launch-next-week/ | Oct 07 13:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Britain in grip of worst ever financial crisis, Bank of England governor fears | The Guardian #uk #collapse #mic http://goo.gl/BNRSr | Oct 07 14:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] RT @cwebber The Onion: Apple User Acting Like His Dad Just Died http://ur1.ca/5bs0s | Oct 07 14:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EUobserver.com / Unrest spreads to military as retired Greek officers storm defence ministry #greece #collapse #mic http://goo.gl/qLnUV | Oct 07 14:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SAN FRANCISCO COPS CRYING AS THEY RAID PEACEFUL PROTEST | COLLAPSENET #ows #usa #collapse #policestate http://goo.gl/e0kNi | Oct 07 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ada Lovelace Day has begun! - http://bit.ly/o4q7Jc but you probably already knew that | Oct 07 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Moody's Continues Euro Downgrade Spree, Cuts Portuguese, British Banks | ZeroHedge #collapse #eu http://goo.gl/PZTPs | Oct 07 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] London 2012 Olympics will run on Vista • The Register ....ouch BE AFRAID!!! http://goo.gl/WFe5Y | Oct 07 14:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bank of America let #Anonymous have your debit card. Again. http://identi.ca/url/54018607 | Oct 07 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Silber: Ubuntu 11.10 will be the first to run on ARM #OpenStack | Oct 07 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Silber: With Ubuntu JuJu, cloud-based services can be added and removed like packages #OpenStack | Oct 07 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Jane just finished her keynote at OpenStack, complete with a stunning Juju demo that got enthusiastic applause. #ubuntu #cloud | Oct 07 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] <<As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone.">> | Oct 07 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] "Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs." | Oct 07 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] "...But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing." | Oct 07 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Rackspace cedes control of OpenStack (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/pHSK9B | Oct 07 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell @ScottBrownMA to apologize to women for his sexist attack on @ElizabethforMA http://identi.ca/url/54018850 | Oct 07 15:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Graphene creates electricity when struck by light http://identi.ca/url/54018940 !science | Oct 07 15:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @farwestchina The beautiful faces of #Xinjiang bit.ly/nPyAqY (h/t @JennyLau)>> lovely images #pix | Oct 07 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Top 100 Statistics About The Collapse Of The Economy That Every American Voter Should Know #usa #collapse http://goo.gl/EEaEL | Oct 07 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Which #VPN Providers Really Take Anonymity Seriously? - http://bit.ly/nTZdUo good question, with some answers | Oct 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What an apt headline! http://ur1.ca/5bs0v | Oct 07 15:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Introducing OpenData.cz – open data initiative from Czech Republic - http://bit.ly/qaV8Lg great to see another one #opendata #cz | Oct 07 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] !FF @glynmoody @maloki @laurelrusswurm @schestowitz @linuxchiq !neatpeople | Oct 07 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Japan päppelt Walfänger mit Millionen - http://bit.ly/oQu83n yeah, much better than spending it on tsunami victims... #priorities | Oct 07 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am angry and disappointed. But at least I now know where I stand. | Oct 07 16:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65416.html | Oct 07 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Michael Bloomberg tells Occupy Wall Street protesters to lay off banks - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 96.55 KB | Oct 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | "New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg slammed the Occupy Wall Street protesters on Friday, saying their attacks on banks could harm one of the city’s major employers." | Oct 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | this is the guy that brought the sliced bagel tax iirc | Oct 07 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | isn't he also rabidly pro gun-control? | Oct 07 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | "If nobody has guns legally, that means you're at the mercy of criminal thugs who have them anyway, herp derp" | Oct 07 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | "But look on the bright side, if the police bust into your home with no warrant, they won't have anything to be afraid of!" | Oct 07 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | see, everyone wins when people who obey the law can't defend themselves | Oct 07 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's just so simple! | Oct 07 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Oct 07 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | we know criminals always get their guns from dealers with a Federal Firearms Permit, and go through a background check and lay out $500 for a carry license | Oct 07 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | they follow the law and that's why they're criminals | Oct 07 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | if you're not following me, it's clearly because you're stupid | Oct 07 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Oct 07 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | we can just pass gun control locally and forget about other counties and states with different laws, or we can do it nationally and forget we live next to a country with drug cartels that hack off peoples heads and shit down their necks | Oct 07 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | PROBLEM SOLVED | Oct 07 16:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | it never ceases to amaze me how people can be so fucking stupid | Oct 07 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | :> indeed | Oct 07 16:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] The headline is hilarious, and I haven't read the article yet! | Oct 07 16:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Michael Bloomberg is one of those limousine liberals who just makes up policy as he goes because it won't affect him | Oct 07 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | and this "please think of the banks" part is just icing | Oct 07 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | they are banks, not kittens | Oct 07 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | if I masturbate and God kills a bank, I'll have to remember to masturbate more often | Oct 07 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | maybe he'll take out a few insurance companies and hospital administrators who line their pockets | Oct 07 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | and who can tell where it will go from there? | Oct 07 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The new term for "tax-evading, job killing, scumbag criminal douche who needs to be shot for the betterment of humanity" is job creator | Oct 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 16:27 |
| MinceR | i've gathered that much, from Colbert Report | Oct 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | they do create jobs, for pennies an hour, in other countries | Oct 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | after they fire millions of Americans | Oct 07 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | we can't possibly tax them | Oct 07 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | it just wouldn't be right! | Oct 07 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If Obama Stalin Hitler gets his way, the billionaires will be 3.5% less rich | Oct 07 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | he must be stopped | Oct 07 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | he's a job killer! | Oct 07 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Oh, did I mention that I recently got a job as an English and Spanish instructor for a private company? :) | Oct 07 16:29 | |
| DaemonFC | if they have to pay their taxes who knows where this could end up | Oct 07 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | maybe we back out of those "free trade agreements" | Oct 07 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | and enact anti-dumping laws | Oct 07 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | have to nip this in the bud | Oct 07 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | they've already been trying to fill prisons with poor people for years | Oct 07 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't work because people are becoming poor faster than they can throw them in prison for something now | Oct 07 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | used to be pretty simple, they could just slam the door shut so nobody else would see you, get depressed, and figure they could be next | Oct 07 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's bad for productivity | Oct 07 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | The city, Bloomberg said, is “trying to let this — not ‘play out,’ that isn’t quite the right word, but let them express themselves.” | Oct 07 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Oct 07 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | as you mace and taser them | Oct 07 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | and watch for them to do something illegal to arrest them | Oct 07 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | slip undercover police officers in the crowd to provoke the police | Oct 07 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | the old tricks are the best ones | Oct 07 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | right, Comrade MinceR? :) | Oct 07 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | "He almost made that banker spill his latte! Take him down!" | Oct 07 16:36 |
| iophk | http://www.crn.com/news/security/231601171/stanford-hospital-data-breach-exposes-20-000-patient-records.htm;jsessionid=Yal9sXjyfeWpHJtj38Cepw**.ecappj02 | Oct 07 16:38 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-authorities-evacuating-central-illinois-town-following-train-derailment-20111007,0,5779614.story | Oct 07 16:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Illinois town evacuated following fiery train derailment - chicagotribune.com .::. Size~: 169.64 KB | Oct 07 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | The town of Tiskilwa was evacuated early this morning after a freight train derailed and several tanker cars containing ethanol exploded in flames that could be seen for miles. | Oct 07 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | yes sir, safe, clean burning, ethanol | Oct 07 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | fuel of the future *just re purpose food | Oct 07 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lawrence Golan Speaks About His Fight To Protect The Public Domain - http://bit.ly/nwz4xH how the public domain was stolen, & what we lose | Oct 07 16:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lawrence Golan Speaks About Golan V. Holder And His Fight To Protect The Public Domain | Techdirt .::. Size~: 72.08 KB | Oct 07 16:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] last post referring to this: RT @Mark_Antony Hear it from Bristol City Council themselves: http://bit.ly/n2VkYn #ossplease #ukgovit | Oct 07 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IBM Takes Over Troubled National Archive Project http://ur1.ca/5bvb6 #opengov #egovt #archive #ibm | Oct 07 16:50 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | wow | Oct 07 16:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I didnt know this | Oct 07 16:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | apparently XP is still about 45% of the active windows installs out there | Oct 07 16:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft lowers #flags to half staff in tribute to Steve #Jobs http://ur1.ca/5bvdi #respect | Oct 07 16:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | duh | Oct 07 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | probably more | Oct 07 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft pressures Net Applications to fudge the numbers in their favor | Oct 07 16:57 |
| iophk | http://blog.crankybit.com/microsoft-cant-even-copy-fast/ | Oct 07 16:57 |
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| MinceR | i thought it was about slow file copying in vista or vista7 | Oct 07 17:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 17:00 |
| iophk | That's why the flags are at half mast They lost their main creative force. :P | Oct 07 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The progress bar is moving, but the remaining time is going UP!!! | Oct 07 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Republicans begin attacking Occupy Wall Street with disinformation http://identi.ca/url/54019880 | Oct 07 17:08 | |
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| MinceR | i didn't know m$ needed outside help to decide how to destroy competition | Oct 07 17:08 |
| MinceR | i thought they were ahead of crApple in the game in some ways | Oct 07 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Invitație la Întâlnirea RLUG Octombrie ’11 http://ur1.ca/5bvht #romania #gnu #linux #opensource | Oct 07 17:09 | |
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| cubezzz | people can't seem to conceive of the notion that some people don't want Microsoft or Apple | Oct 07 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: In some ways, they are | Oct 07 17:11 |
| iophk | There's (still) Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and the Fedora equivalents | Oct 07 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Apple really needs to replace their horrible aging filesystem | Oct 07 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | their graphics drivers aren't that good | Oct 07 17:11 |
| iophk | What would you replace it with? JFS? | Oct 07 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | they had ZFS support for a while | Oct 07 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | before yanking it and leaving the people who used it with no upgrade path | Oct 07 17:12 |
| iophk | ZFS was really cool | Oct 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's Apple :) | Oct 07 17:12 |
| iophk | I forgot they had it. | Oct 07 17:12 |
| iophk | Why was it dropped? | Oct 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | no reason given | Oct 07 17:12 |
| iophk | Fink's been effectively dropped, too\ | Oct 07 17:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] From 'Warthog' to 'Pangolin': Up Close With Ubuntu #Linux Mascots http://ur1.ca/5bvkb | Oct 07 17:13 | |
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| MinceR | http://narf-archive.com/pix/30042f486e8cbeea114beb33a391758839cc1d1e.jpg | Oct 07 17:17 |
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| iophk | DaemonFC: IIRC ZFS was from Sun | Oct 07 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | right | Oct 07 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | there's some implementations of it for Linux | Oct 07 17:19 |
| iophk | On FreeBSD, too/ | Oct 07 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | but they're either FUSE modules or GPL violations | Oct 07 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD supports it fine | Oct 07 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | you can even install to it | Oct 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | which is because sun chose the license specifically to cause it to be incompatible with Linux | Oct 07 17:19 |
| iophk | CDDL sucks | Oct 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | because they were scared shitless of the idea of having to compete with GNU/Linux | Oct 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | just like m$ and crApple are scared shitless of it | Oct 07 17:20 |
| iophk | Some used to know how to work with GPL | Oct 07 17:20 |
| azalyn | there were plenty of gpl-incompatible licenses that already existed. | Oct 07 17:20 |
| azalyn | in fact, isn't the CDDL based on MPL/EPL/etc ? | Oct 07 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | it is nearly identical to MPL | Oct 07 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | in effect | Oct 07 17:20 |
| azalyn | there's a family of similar licenses that were based on eachother i believe.. IPL, CPL, EPL, and MPL | Oct 07 17:21 |
| azalyn | if i'm not mistaken | Oct 07 17:21 |
| azalyn | the three first were IBM ones. | Oct 07 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's the whole cdrtools thing | Oct 07 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | and the illegal broken fork found in most distributions now | Oct 07 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | cdrkit | Oct 07 17:21 |
| azalyn | why is it illegal? | Oct 07 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/linux-dist.html | Oct 07 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cdrtools - why do Linux distributions create bad forks? .::. Size~: 23.64 KB | Oct 07 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | according to the author, Debian wanted to get some broken patches into cdrtools | Oct 07 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | when the author wouldn't let them, they fabricated some GPL compliance problems with the cdrtools licensing | Oct 07 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] So you're saying the first hit is free but there's no liberty? Hmmm | Oct 07 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cum se fac legile in #România? Asta seara despre proiectul legii românești referitor la cookie-uri via #MCSI http://t.co/g35IM8f3 | Oct 07 17:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 17:25 |
| iophk | BerliOS will close: | Oct 07 17:27 |
| iophk | http://developer.berlios.de/forum/forum.php?forum_id=37450 | Oct 07 17:27 |
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| cubezzz | I've been running old cdrecord for a long time | Oct 07 17:27 |
| iophk | why not wodim? | Oct 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's stupid to simply refuse to use a program under the CDDL for only that reason | Oct 07 17:28 |
| azalyn | isn't this biased, since it's from the author of cdrtools? | Oct 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's an open source and free software license | Oct 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | and you have plenty of other software licensed similarly no doubt | Oct 07 17:28 |
| azalyn | honestly, the symlinks problem seems completely stupid and invalid. i think he's grasping at straws. | Oct 07 17:28 |
| azalyn | it's normal to create new programs with the same filenames, think of POSIX apps like sed and awk and so on.. | Oct 07 17:29 |
| azalyn | the naming issue is about the formal name of the program, not the filename. | Oct 07 17:29 |
| azalyn | which is why gnu's sed is formally called "GNU sed", but still has 'sed' as a command. | Oct 07 17:30 |
| azalyn | similarly, you can say "CDRKIT mkisofs" or something, and still use the same command name. | Oct 07 17:30 |
| azalyn | so i'm calling bullshit on that claim the cdrtools author is making. | Oct 07 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] while USAmericans camp at Wall St, Brazilian youngsters camp for weeks around stadiums where Justin Bieber will sing. shame! | Oct 07 17:32 | |
| azalyn | as for the other claims, i don't know. | Oct 07 17:32 |
| cubezzz | I run a lot of different historical operating systems | Oct 07 17:36 |
| cubezzz | so fc1 basically stays as fc1 | Oct 07 17:36 |
| cubezzz | the only thing I add is my own programs | Oct 07 17:36 |
| azalyn | i've never heard of the gpl being interpreted the way this guy is suggesting though. | Oct 07 17:36 |
| azalyn | he's making it sound like it's impossible to make a clean fork... | Oct 07 17:36 |
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| azalyn | also, he's clearly lying by saying that the FSF is 'okay' with linking GPL apps to CDDL apps. | Oct 07 17:39 |
| azalyn | he says just because the FSF hasn't sued, that they're okay with it. | Oct 07 17:39 |
| azalyn | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#CDDL | Oct 07 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | Rootstriking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpbfY-atMk&feature=digest_refresh_fri | Oct 07 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | [13:50] <iophk> The switch is from Red Hat to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS | Oct 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | [13:52] <iophk> No reasons given for the switch nor what the customizations are. | Oct 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | maybe cost | Oct 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | we switch from rhel to debian | Oct 07 17:41 |
| amarsh04 | I could never figure out Joerg Schilling (original cdr tools author) and his complaints about Debian doing a legitimate fork of his code - he never detailed what the bugs he was claiming that others introduced/didn't fix were | Oct 07 17:42 |
| amarsh04 | there was a long-winded exchange in debian-user where he didn't really answer anything | Oct 07 17:42 |
| iophk | Debian is great for servers, IMHO | Oct 07 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Joerg Schilling has bad peruattion in COLA | Oct 07 17:47 |
| schestowitz | *reputation | Oct 07 17:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: standardised | Oct 07 17:48 |
| azalyn | http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/linux-dist.html#violations | Oct 07 17:48 |
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| azalyn | these are his gpl violation claims | Oct 07 17:48 |
| azalyn | all of those seem to be bunk apart from maybe 2a | Oct 07 17:48 |
| azalyn | i'm reading the GPL right now. | Oct 07 17:48 |
| azalyn | the gpl does mention that you have to mention the date of changes and what not... but it's vague.. wouldn't SCMs satisfy the requirement, i wonder? or do the modification notices really HAVE to be in the code.. | Oct 07 17:49 |
| azalyn | and is that just for the first time you modify the file after forking? or everytime you modify it? it seems like a strange requirement, i'm not sure what the FSF means by it. | Oct 07 17:50 |
| azalyn | as for the german copyright laws or whatever, those aren't valid because debian is not based in germany as far as i know... | Oct 07 17:51 |
| amarsh04 | I like how with the debian package kernel-package one can unpack the github/kernel.org source and run "make-kpkg --config menuconfig --initrd linux-image" and you get a kernel that works fine with the rest of the distribution | Oct 07 17:53 |
| amarsh04 | add "--arch i386 --cross-compile -" and you can build a 32 bit x86 kernel on an x86-64 system | Oct 07 17:55 |
| azalyn | i use gentoo. | Oct 07 17:56 |
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| amarsh04 | the only gentoo I use is sysrescuecd, haven't the patience to compile too much | Oct 07 17:57 |
| azalyn | i'm starting to lose patience with it too. | Oct 07 17:58 |
| azalyn | i used to think about switching to debian, but the more i learn about them, the less i like them. | Oct 07 17:58 |
| azalyn | they seem to have this "my way or the highway" attitude. | Oct 07 17:58 |
| amarsh04 | I keep sysrescuecd and the grub-rescue cd on cd-rw's for any recovery situations or resizing the root partition | Oct 07 17:59 |
| azalyn | the debian openssl issue awhile back i think illustrates my point. | Oct 07 18:00 |
| azalyn | that wasn't an honest mistake. it was just pure incompetence. | Oct 07 18:00 |
| azalyn | and worse yet, the guy that made the error still works at the project, and was even promoted to some fairly high management position in the project | Oct 07 18:00 |
| azalyn | no accountability for failure. | Oct 07 18:01 |
| amarsh04 | It's not too difficult to rebuild packages from source (apt-get build-dep foo;apt-get source foo;cd foo-x.yz; debuild -b;cd ..;dpkg -i foo-*x.yz*deb | Oct 07 18:01 |
| azalyn | what i want really, is slackware, but with a package manager that features dependency resolution. | Oct 07 18:01 |
| azalyn | so i've considered arch linux. | Oct 07 18:01 |
| azalyn | which seems like the closest thing. | Oct 07 18:02 |
| amarsh04 | the problem as I understood it was not plainly labelling where variables were meant to be left uninitialised | Oct 07 18:02 |
| azalyn | the problem is this guy should never have been in charge of a project like openssl in the first place. my understanding is that uninitialized memory is a side effect of writing a PRNG in order to achieve enough randomness or something. | Oct 07 18:04 |
| azalyn | anyone with even a bit of cryptography knowledge would have known why valgrind was reporting that error. | Oct 07 18:05 |
| azalyn | and that it was normal. | Oct 07 18:05 |
| azalyn | why would you have a maintainer of openssl, that isn't familiar with cryptography? | Oct 07 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Supreme Court Switches Over To Ubuntu 10.04 http://ur1.ca/5bvko #india | Oct 07 18:05 | |
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| amarsh04 | by labelling I mean maybe even having ways of flagging with the compiler that certain variables were to be left uninitialised | Oct 07 18:05 |
| amarsh04 | I ready scheiner's "applied cryptography" and realised that I still didn't understand that stuff in enough depth to work on that kind of thing | Oct 07 18:06 |
| azalyn | well, all i know is this issue had already come up with IBM's purify tool (similar to valgrind), and as a result, there was already code to compile it so that it wouldn't give an error, for testing purposes. | Oct 07 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5bw48 #sip_and_click | Oct 07 18:07 | |
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| azalyn | if it was a smaller project, that would be one thing.. but debian is massive. | Oct 07 18:07 |
| azalyn | you would never see openbsd making a dumb mistake like that, and they have far less contributors. | Oct 07 18:07 |
| amarsh04 | I only with that openssh could still be compiled with srp support | Oct 07 18:08 |
| schestowitz | [17:56] <azalyn> i use gentoo. | Oct 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I would like to try it soon | Oct 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | some people in COLA convinced to give it a go | Oct 07 18:09 |
| amarsh04 | a proper test for the code in openssl would measure the randomness of supposedly random numbers | Oct 07 18:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] off to the airport | Oct 07 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Did #Microsoft Pay the #Philippines to Drop #GNU #Linux and Free Software? http://is.gd/bcuapd #edgi #lockin | Oct 07 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ubuntu 11.10 to feature Arm support, #OpenStack cloud orchestration (Network World): http://bit.ly/r2ppEf | Oct 07 18:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Weeks After #Google Buys Part of Motorola Microsoft’s Patent Troll Sues #Motorola http://is.gd/93SYB9 #swpats | Oct 07 18:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Increases #Linux Tax Using Its Own Mole, #Likewise http://is.gd/pERamc #swpats #linuxtax | Oct 07 18:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?61978-An-Update-On-The-Linux-Power-Situation-In-Ubuntu&p=230872#post230872 | Oct 07 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: phoronix has been using dramatic headlines recnelty, more than before | Oct 07 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I saw some examples last night | Oct 07 18:58 |
| schestowitz | usually making things look bad | Oct 07 18:58 |
| cubezzz | bad news sells | Oct 07 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Nobel peace prize nominees Bradley Manning & Assange: 500&304 days in pre-trial detention. @WikiLeaks: 314 days of financial blockade | Oct 07 18:58 | |
| azalyn | this microsoft patent war is infuriating me... | Oct 07 18:59 |
| azalyn | it would be nice if wikileaks could get some dirt on microsoft's backroom dealings. | Oct 07 18:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pilger on the Assange smear campaign: http://t.co/BYl8L1Nd | Oct 07 19:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz | azalyn: of the government LOL | Oct 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Just kidding | Oct 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz | hehe. For a moment I was implying that the govet care for justice. LOL | Oct 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Jobs is a hero | Oct 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Assange is avillain | Oct 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Zuckerberg is man of the year | Oct 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Elmer is a criminal | Oct 07 19:05 |
| azalyn | you said 'of' instead of 'or' | Oct 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 07 19:05 |
| azalyn | :P | Oct 07 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, I think someone's working on it. | Oct 07 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, that was the point of today, actually. Woohoo. | Oct 07 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: yes, many typos above | Oct 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz | I still have 3 posts left to publish | Oct 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz | then daily links | Oct 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz | back to wordpress.. | Oct 07 19:05 |
| azalyn | you know what's scary | Oct 07 19:06 |
| azalyn | this microsoft patent shit... | Oct 07 19:06 |
| azalyn | there is no official word on what the amount of money collected really is | Oct 07 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://ur1.ca/5bwmk | Oct 07 19:07 | |
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| azalyn | people have been speculating | Oct 07 19:07 |
| azalyn | and saying things like "15 per device" | Oct 07 19:07 |
| azalyn | but as far as i know, none of that information is trusted.. | Oct 07 19:07 |
| azalyn | what if microsoft is actually only getting companies to sign with them for 'free' in exchange for microsoft providing the illusion that a patent license is actually being negotiated? | Oct 07 19:07 |
| azalyn | in order to create FUD | Oct 07 19:08 |
| azalyn | i mean that could explain why no one yet has fought microsoft's claims.. | Oct 07 19:08 |
| azalyn | and why everyone is signing on board. | Oct 07 19:08 |
| azalyn | for all we know the deal could just involve a cross-licensing agreement with no fees.. or exchanging of stock.. | Oct 07 19:08 |
| azalyn | or whatever else that doesn't cost either party any money | Oct 07 19:09 |
| azalyn | but allows microsoft to keep spreading uncertainty about linux. | Oct 07 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Exactly | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Glyn Moodya dn I spoke about it | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | and pointed out how the Microsoft boosters spread the FUS | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | with costs | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | and numbers | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | to fed off potentional linux adopters | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Bishop makes me sick | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | al,most as sick as fried akes me | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | *makes | Oct 07 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | or Microsoft tells them to give them a dollar so they can run off and tell everyone that they licensed the patents and got money from it | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | those people should have their journo cerf revoked, if they have any | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | they're extended PR for MSFT | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | as far as I know, Microosft might as well be PAYING companies to prteend to be in need of paying | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | with Novell: | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsodr broibed Novell | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | to then pay royalties from Linux | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | coast passed to customers | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | but it's all just for show | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | to make other vendors cave | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | notably red hat | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | then amazon | Oct 07 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | most of the "licensees" are companies I've never heard of | Oct 07 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | they have a few that I have | Oct 07 19:13 |
| azalyn | htc | Oct 07 19:13 |
| azalyn | samsung | Oct 07 19:13 |
| azalyn | for android | Oct 07 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | that makes me mad | Oct 07 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung makes some good stuff | Oct 07 19:14 |
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| azalyn | the real question is.. does google know that such fake-deals are happening? | Oct 07 19:15 |
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| azalyn | and are they trying to collect information for a case? | Oct 07 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure they do | Oct 07 19:15 |
| azalyn | or what? | Oct 07 19:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU Patent Failing to Materialise, But EPO and Politicians Begin to Overstep Their Line of Authority to Intervene http://is.gd/iL9Dhs | Oct 07 19:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'd be very surprised if Google backs down and just pays Microsoft to go away | Oct 07 19:15 |
| azalyn | of course. but what i'm wondering is why google hasn't already sued. | Oct 07 19:16 |
| azalyn | maybe they know it's happening, but need evidence. | Oct 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | "Surprise, surprise. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582078 | Oct 07 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: b&n gave some evidence | Oct 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | they didn't commits to the NDA | Oct 07 19:17 |
| schestowitz | s/ zoobab / azalyn/ | Oct 07 19:17 |
| schestowitz | *commit | Oct 07 19:17 |
| azalyn | link? | Oct 07 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "No codename will ever beat "Beefy Miracle". lol " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/578500 | Oct 07 19:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "Certainly not "precise pangolin" (rolls eyes) " | Oct 07 19:18 |
| azalyn | apparently microsoft also has clauses in their private OEM licenses that forbid dualboot computers. that too is an antitrust violation. | Oct 07 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | "**Groan** I love (K)ubuuntu, but for **** sake, Ubuntu, get a decent codename system. Look at Apple. Lion. Snow Leopard. Tiger. Those are sexy names. "Precise Pangolin"?! Hell, I even *like* pangolin's, but it's still an awful release name. Still, at least it's better than Oneiric Ocelot (the worst of the bunch imo). | Oct 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Certainly not "precise pangolin" (rolls eyes) | Oct 07 19:18 |
| azalyn | actually i like ocelot more than 'precise pangolin' | Oct 07 19:19 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/578038 | Oct 07 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:19 |
| azalyn | this new one has to be the worst in my opinion. | Oct 07 19:19 |
| azalyn | lucid lynx was nice. | Oct 07 19:19 |
| schestowitz | I started Ubuntu with "warty warthog" - not a pretty sight | Oct 07 19:19 |
| MinceR | Pissed Peacock | Oct 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu | Oct 07 19:20 |
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| DaemonFC | Pissing Protoceratop | Oct 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Porky Pecker | Oct 07 19:20 |
| MinceR | looks like Zalgo paid a visit to Mark | Oct 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | "But then, you would say that. You're a crazy, jealous, shill of a troll. (kidding!) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/577809 | Oct 07 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Steve_Jobs | Oct 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "Did you put the exclamation mark at the start and gthe normal brackets around the link?" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/577757 Diaspora is just being strange with linebreak chars on the face of it | Oct 07 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "Konqueror?! As an unabashed KDE fanboy, even I know of almost no one who uses Konqueror as it's level of development is so far behind that constant problems are almost a given. Have you at least given Rekonq a try? " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/574046 | Oct 07 19:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 19:23 |
| schestowitz | I ought to try Rekonq if it can preserve all my settings. | Oct 07 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Steve_Jobs | Oct 07 19:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Another decent article highlighting the mess that the US Patent System is in, especially with regards to software paten... http://b1t.it/Gqw | Oct 07 19:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Another decent article highlighting the mess that the US… .::. Size~: 41.86 KB | Oct 07 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | it shares most of them | Oct 07 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yup :) I am not so sure this optimus phone thing is as great as I'd been led to believe; certainly not liking the google part of android. | Oct 07 19:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://features.opensuse.org/308497 | Oct 07 19:35 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Oct 07 19:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ouch. http://ur1.ca/5bwu8 | Oct 07 19:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Currently installing !trisquel; I'm excited to try a #libre distribution | Oct 07 19:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Halliburton in a War With European Patent Law http://ur1.ca/5bww4 #swpats #eu | Oct 07 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it a requirement for Bible thumpers to be sad desperate individuals? or just the ones trying to convert me? | Oct 07 19:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: That game you linked to from the humble bundle tries to pull in the entire Mono runtime | Oct 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | SpaceChem | Oct 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's written in C# | Oct 07 19:46 |
| schestowitz | oops | Oct 07 19:50 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz in mono promotion shocker | Oct 07 19:54 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl | Oct 07 19:54 |
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| DaemonFC | ./opt/zachtronicsindustries/spacechem/Mono.Security.dll | Oct 07 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | ./opt/zachtronicsindustries/spacechem/Newtonsoft.Json.dll | Oct 07 19:57 |
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| DaemonFC | ./opt/zachtronicsindustries/spacechem/Tao.Sdl.dll.config | Oct 07 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | it wants to bring in 29 packages to install the game | Oct 07 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | and most of those are Mono | Oct 07 19:58 |
| schestowitz | :/ | Oct 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz | mea culpa | Oct 07 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason I noticed is because I typically use dpkg to install things locally and it doesn't grab dependencies | Oct 07 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @zoowar All of my life i had a robot. | Oct 07 20:02 | |
| DaemonFC | so when I did apt-get -f install to try to grab them, I noticed it wanted all of Mono and then some | Oct 07 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | qapt/gdebi etc. only tell you how many dependencies they need to get, not what they are actually going to do | Oct 07 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | so it would be easy to click install and not even realize you just brought in all of Mono | Oct 07 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's a shame | Oct 07 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | the game got good reviews | Oct 07 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | of course if you use Ubuntu you have Mono anyway I guess | Oct 07 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | and this is probably done with that in mind | Oct 07 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | so by bundling it, they have legitimized it | Oct 07 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] At 1335 today my wife gave birth to our baby girl Amy, 9 pounds 1 ounce. | Oct 07 20:05 | |
| DaemonFC | and now you're going to see a lot of Windows programmers using Mono as a way of "supporting" Linux | Oct 07 20:05 |
| schestowitz | "I was a bit later. Dapper Drake (6.06?)" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/578038 | Oct 07 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 20:06 |
| schestowitz | isn't that badger? | Oct 07 20:06 |
| schestowitz | !google 6.06 ubuntu | Oct 07 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS (Dapper Drake) | http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ | Oct 07 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Documentation for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ | Oct 07 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - New Ubuntu Release Available for Desktops and Servers, with Long ... | http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released | Oct 07 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Ubuntu (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) | Oct 07 20:06 |
| schestowitz | oh, he's right | Oct 07 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | breezy badger was 5.10 | Oct 07 20:06 |
| schestowitz | when did they add mono? | Oct 07 20:06 |
| schestowitz | "Don't let them fool you. It is really Playful Panda. lol " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/578038 | Oct 07 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | must have been when Tomboy and F-Spot showed up | Oct 07 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | guessing sometime between 7.10 and 8.04 | Oct 07 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | Pompous peacock | Oct 07 20:08 |
| _Goblin | What a welcome | Oct 07 20:09 |
| _Goblin | I thought I could say I'd been called everything..... | Oct 07 20:09 |
| _Goblin | don't think Ive ever been called a Pompous Peacock | Oct 07 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Presumptuous Pontificator | Oct 07 20:09 |
| _Goblin | Proud Parent.... | Oct 07 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Thanks mate! | Oct 07 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Appreciated, thank you! | Oct 07 20:10 | |
| _Goblin | (Again) | Oct 07 20:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Doing the lords work and advancing the Aryan race? | Oct 07 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | I mean "congratulations" :) | Oct 07 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | congratulations are what you say when someone voluntarily helps overpopulate the planet | Oct 07 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | and creates a new slave for the masters | Oct 07 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | I can never understand you humans | Oct 07 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 20:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Pedophile Pope :-) | Oct 07 20:14 |
| _Goblin | Thank you....I think | Oct 07 20:14 |
| schestowitz | 12.04 | Oct 07 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Does the pope molest children too? | Oct 07 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was just the clergy | Oct 07 20:15 |
| schestowitz | no | Oct 07 20:15 |
| schestowitz | codename for ubuntu | Oct 07 20:15 |
| schestowitz | PeckerPenisPrick | Oct 07 20:15 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you missed the context, I think | Oct 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: is it too late to consider recording? | Oct 07 20:17 |
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| _Goblin | er..... a little.....Im got quite a few tasks to do.... | Oct 07 20:17 |
| _Goblin | you checked denti.ca? | Oct 07 20:17 |
| _Goblin | or diaspora? | Oct 07 20:17 |
| _Goblin | * Goblin watches as the obvious passes over the head of his co-host Roy..... | Oct 07 20:18 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Oct 07 20:19 |
| schestowitz | diaspora | Oct 07 20:19 |
| _Goblin | check my stream | Oct 07 20:19 |
| _Goblin | or on Identi.ca | Oct 07 20:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/572828 | Oct 07 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | 14 minutes ago | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | oh! | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | amy | Oct 07 20:20 |
| _Goblin | er...no not that one...but that is in my stream | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | grats!! | Oct 07 20:20 |
| _Goblin | and yes | Oct 07 20:21 |
| _Goblin | :) | Oct 07 20:21 |
| _Goblin | thanks | Oct 07 20:21 |
| tvp | hi all | Oct 07 20:21 |
| tvp | do you folks follow any religion? | Oct 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | !google stallmanism | Oct 07 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Blessed be the Org, the Com, and the Net - Stallmanism | http://www.stallmanism.com/ | Oct 07 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linux Today - Stallmanism : a Religion for the 21st Century | http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2011092300641OPOO | Oct 07 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman | Oct 07 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Nikolai Bezroukov. Portraits of Open Source Pioneers. Ch.3 Prince ... | http://www.softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/index.shtml | Oct 07 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | I follow the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the Invisible Pink Unicorn | Oct 07 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm a polytheist | Oct 07 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 07 20:21 |
| MinceR | i believe in myself | Oct 07 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | and I believe in you too | Oct 07 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | (that you exist that is) | Oct 07 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Oct 07 20:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 20:22 |
| tvp | stallman makes pro-paedophilia comments | Oct 07 20:22 |
| MinceR | see, that's how i beat the other gods | Oct 07 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | tvp: No, what he has actually said was that teenagers who make naked pictures of themselves and share them back and forth with other teenagers should not be labeled as sex predators | Oct 07 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | and sent to prison | Oct 07 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | and I agree | Oct 07 20:23 |
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| DaemonFC | you know, the current public indignation against "sexting" | Oct 07 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | maybe there needs to be some kind of punishment for that, and I don't really know what that would be | Oct 07 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | but the entire weight of the system coming down on them for it? no | Oct 07 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | under the legal system of the US state of Indiana, I could be a sex offender because I needed to take a piss in the woods | Oct 07 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | these laws are typically overly broad | Oct 07 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | they make laws with arbitrary terms and then have to pass new laws later to hack around them and try to undo the damage they have caused | Oct 07 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Scholarly Poor: The Climate Code Foundation - http://bit.ly/ngLCcV definitely a worthy cause (I'm on its advisory board...) #openaccess | Oct 07 20:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | like Indiana, which just passed a law stating it's not statutory rape as long as you are within 3 years of age of each other even if one is over 18 | Oct 07 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | because up until then they were sending 18 year olds to prison for having sex with their girlfriend, who may have been 1 month younger | Oct 07 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | the laws are stupid and they got this way because if you even start talking about them being unfair as written, you are called a child molester sympathizer or something | Oct 07 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | so was it obvious that with Richard Stallman talking some sense in an interview that someone would come back later and try to brand him? | Oct 07 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think it was, but he went and said it anyway | Oct 07 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | tvp: Watch what happens if someone starts saying marijuana is harmless | Oct 07 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's a good one | Oct 07 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | because instead of proving that it actually causes harm, people are conditioned to start talking about ones that do | Oct 07 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | like heroin or cocaine or meth | Oct 07 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | then they bring up terrorists | Oct 07 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | people who aren't very intelligent have to turn themselves into shock jockeys to wage an argument and get noticed | Oct 07 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think, a lot of the things that are harmless, mostly harmless, or not very interesting have to be puffed up to sound worse than they actually are | Oct 07 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | if the religious establishment loses an inch, they fear that the rest of their bullshit could be next | Oct 07 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | so you get a disproportionate response from society when you are just slightly out of line | Oct 07 20:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♪♫ "I .. wanna steal you heart .. and eat your brains" ♪♫ #nowplaying My_Favourite_Martian - Zombie love song♪♫ !listening | Oct 07 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Download MakeUseOf Guides - #manuals #tips http://ur1.ca/5bxc3 | Oct 07 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MakeUseOf Cheat Sheets #tips #cheatsheets http://ur1.ca/5bxc5 | Oct 07 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is http://ur1.ca/5bxca with 57 dents! | Oct 07 20:43 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: "Congratulations on your, er, release! :) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406 | Oct 07 20:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "This just annoyed me too much not to write about it." http://ur1.ca/5bxd7 | Oct 07 20:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Computer #virus hits US Predator and Reaper drone fleet - http://bit.ly/npcllr er, so they're running all this on #Windows? riiight... | Oct 07 20:48 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: She will be another youngster brought up in a world of freedom from Microsoft products. | Oct 07 20:49 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Shes a little young to choose a distro for at moment....However Daniel now has his own distro: Doudou Linux | Oct 07 20:50 |
| _Goblin | he'll be going onto Gentoo next year ;) | Oct 07 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Good man | Oct 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "didy up your room and recompile konqueror!" | Oct 07 20:51 |
| _Goblin | Talking of which, I had an interesting discussion with the dev of Doudou in regards to introducing kids to Linux/Computing... | Oct 07 20:51 |
| _Goblin | lol | Oct 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | some kids' distros have had no new releases | Oct 07 20:51 |
| schestowitz | I remember several | Oct 07 20:51 |
| _Goblin | Doudou has just released one..... | Oct 07 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Computer #virus hits US Predator and Reaper drone fleet - http://bit.ly/npcllr er, so they're running on #Windows? riiight.. | Oct 07 20:52 | |
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| _Goblin | unfortunately its one of those distro's that you will only see how good it is if you have kids to use it....theres alot of hard work gone into it. | Oct 07 20:52 |
| _Goblin | and alot of thought..... | Oct 07 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "1.0?" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406 | Oct 07 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Doudou is not a good name | Oct 07 20:54 |
| schestowitz | it's the type of name trolls would love | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 20:55 |
| schestowitz | you can't quite ask your kid if he's messing about with Doudou | Oct 07 20:55 |
| schestowitz | You could remaster your own distro | Oct 07 20:55 |
| schestowitz | as you already have some DW-fu | Oct 07 20:56 |
| schestowitz | make one for kids maybe, it's not a lot of work | Oct 07 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Konqueror, yuck | Oct 07 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | it hasn't been properly maintained in years | Oct 07 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | it just still kind of exists | Oct 07 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Wolvix dev did one without being much of a programmer, it's more about marketing it | Oct 07 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Bodhi got over 100,000 downloads | Oct 07 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Same for Trisquel | Oct 07 20:56 |
| schestowitz | over 100k direct downloads | Oct 07 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Make a distro called DanDan | Oct 07 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Based on the selection of a hands-on user | Oct 07 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Young chef | Oct 07 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Seriously though, it's doable, you can remaster it and find a place to put a mirror | Oct 07 20:57 |
| schestowitz | the guy who did boycottnnovell with me, shane, was a developer of a children's distro | Oct 07 20:58 |
| schestowitz | edu-nix | Oct 07 20:58 |
| schestowitz | he was a bit of a dev and based it on slax | Oct 07 20:58 |
| schestowitz | he also made sueme linux | Oct 07 20:58 |
| schestowitz | !google sueme linux | Oct 07 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - SueMe | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/sueme/ | Oct 07 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 2006 December 25 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2006/12/25/ | Oct 07 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Conspiracies, science, media, and truths: can ECM help? | Dave ... | http://www.livelink-experts.com/blog/conspiracies-science-media-and-truths-can-ecm-help | Oct 07 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Public Tag Public Tags | Livelink Experts | http://www.livelink-experts.com/category/public-tags/advertisement | Oct 07 20:58 |
| _Goblin | Sort of going off on a tangeant for a second.... | Oct 07 21:01 |
| _Goblin | something Ive noticed..... | Oct 07 21:01 |
| cubezzz | I think I'll give "bloatnux" a miss | Oct 07 21:02 |
| _Goblin | when I ran Mint (Gnome) every so often, my nzb client would disapear from the indicator applet and to all intents and purposes appear shut down....after further investigation it transpired to still be running and there were no ill effects......however.... | Oct 07 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/10/07/ragnarok-css3-radial-gradients | Oct 07 21:02 |
| _Goblin | PCLinuxOS...different distro, different DE (KDE) and its happened again.........very strange.....is it the client? Well it didn't do it on Sabayon Xfce or Gnome.... | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | couldn't connect to host ( http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/10/07/ragnarok-css3-radial-gradients ) | Oct 07 21:03 |
| cubezzz | what is a nzb client? | Oct 07 21:03 |
| _Goblin | and lottaNZB is merely a gui written in python for hellanzb | Oct 07 21:03 |
| _Goblin | usenet binaries..... | Oct 07 21:04 |
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| _Goblin | and shame on you....its where you can get loads of amiga fred fish disks and the assassins collection. | Oct 07 21:04 |
| azalyn | i'd use usenet, but i don't want to pay for access. | Oct 07 21:04 |
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| cubezzz | I can just download adf's | Oct 07 21:04 |
| _Goblin | theres so much retro stuff.....the entire amiga demoscene... | Oct 07 21:05 |
| azalyn | my isp stopped offering access years ago. and even back then, data retention was horrible. | Oct 07 21:05 |
| cubezzz | and what is the other one... | Oct 07 21:05 |
| cubezzz | dms\ | Oct 07 21:05 |
| cubezzz | dms files | Oct 07 21:05 |
| _Goblin | Im with Tiger, for the Amiga groups its around 3-4 years....pretty good.... | Oct 07 21:05 |
| azalyn | someone should torrent all of usenet. ;) | Oct 07 21:05 |
| azalyn | i wonder how many petabytes or whatever that would be.. | Oct 07 21:05 |
| cubezzz | I have some old CRS stuff | Oct 07 21:05 |
| _Goblin | fair point...I'm surprised it hasn't happened. | Oct 07 21:06 |
| cubezzz | just the text shouldn't be too big | Oct 07 21:06 |
| MinceR | the spam should compress well :> | Oct 07 21:06 |
| cubezzz | I've gotten into old IBM stuff and old PDP stuff | Oct 07 21:07 |
| cubezzz | so the amiga stuff is a bit neglected of late | Oct 07 21:07 |
| _Goblin | I've recovered alot of my stuff of 3.5"....including a party invite intro....... | Oct 07 21:07 |
| _Goblin | I should get around to assembling it......but the src was all intact and I cannot remember saving it.... | Oct 07 21:08 |
| cubezzz | oh and I spent a lot of time on motif (which I didn't get any help with) | Oct 07 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Computer #virus hits US Predator and Reaper drone fleet - http://bit.ly/npcllr er, so they're running all this on #Windows ... | Oct 07 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] underpowered by...ms-windows ;) | Oct 07 21:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Homeland Security moves forward with 'pre-crime' detection | Privacy Inc. - CNET News #usa #policestate via £og€x http://goo.gl/GL3l1 | Oct 07 21:13 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: check your mail pls | Oct 07 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Minority Report | Oct 07 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | "Congratulations! How wonderful! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406 | Oct 07 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 21:20 |
| schestowitz | :-) :-) "Thanks so much to everyone with kind wishes.... Its really appreciated! " | Oct 07 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | "Thanks for this link. No glee is needed about someone who has died after a long illness, but the creation of Steve the Saint is ridiculous, and people need reminding of a few facts about the man." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582412 | Oct 07 21:21 |
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| DaemonFC | https://s-hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/270952_142680732472644_126894987384552_275519_6370542_n.jpg | Oct 07 21:26 |
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| MinceR | :D | Oct 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: +1 | Oct 07 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284628_150508281689889_126894987384552_299487_618403_n.jpg | Oct 07 21:32 |
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| MinceR | lol | Oct 07 21:33 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/jccJG | Oct 07 21:33 |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 07 21:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Better late than never! Creative Commons & Ada Lovelace Day: the Women behind Librebus http://bit.ly/pRhLLb #ALD11 | Oct 07 21:33 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: will do! just returned to keyboard! | Oct 07 21:33 |
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| Windows, now more deadly than ever. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/ | Oct 07 21:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exclusive: Computer Virus Hits U.S. Drone Fleet | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 57.86 KB | Oct 07 21:34 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Thanks! Will do....although it'll go as an attachment as we don't have a printer! I'll send it to her phone now! | Oct 07 21:35 |
| "The virus, first detected nearly two weeks ago by the military’s Host-Based Security System, has not prevented pilots at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada from flying their missions overseas. Nor have there been any confirmed incidents of classified information being lost or sent to an outside source. But the virus has resisted multiple efforts to remove it from Creech’s computers" | Oct 07 21:35 | |
| unbelievable. they fly killer drones with known botnets. | Oct 07 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] "While I'd love it if Stallman would retire" - so wait... he wants RMS gone too. | Oct 07 21:37 | |
| MinceR | hay twitter | Oct 07 21:37 |
| hello | Oct 07 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: maybe AnonOp can take these over | Oct 07 21:37 |
| _Goblin | Its Skynet, bet you its skynet....thats all we need t1000's running about with Windows 7 BSODing all over the place... | Oct 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz | and crash them on the NYSE | Oct 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz | ^ sarcasm | Oct 07 21:37 |
| they are taken over, the idiots just don't know by whom | Oct 07 21:37 | |
| tvp | do you folks really believe that MS reads cola | Oct 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz | maybe they should put the controllees through the TSA | Oct 07 21:38 |
| _Goblin | ew....a terrible thought....a killer t1000 running windows 7 stuffed full of porn malware.... | Oct 07 21:38 |
| _Goblin | the mind boggles as to what they will get up to. | Oct 07 21:38 |
| -> “We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back,” says a source familiar with the network infection, one of three that told Danger Room about the virus. “We think it’s benign. But we just don’t know.” | Oct 07 21:39 | |
| so typical | Oct 07 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes! :) #diasporababies " v | Oct 07 21:40 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582406 | Oct 07 21:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 21:40 |
| schestowitz | twitter: _Goblin has a new child | Oct 07 21:40 |
| _Goblin | I thought it was quite a good hashtag | Oct 07 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "very nice to read this ... announcement - also congrats !! " << still discussed in diaspora, seems like today's main attraction | Oct 07 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "fantastic, really cool :) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/582786 | Oct 07 21:41 |
| Congratulations _Goblin | Oct 07 21:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 21:41 |
| _Goblin | thanks mate. | Oct 07 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "Great! I think that these could be useful  ;) " | Oct 07 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 07 21:42 |
| The word "Windows" is not mentioned in the article | Oct 07 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kY5WNu7XcU8/SMACCaqrQcI/AAAAAAAAA-Y/b7Bx-Gtq1PU/s400/dandelion.jpg | Oct 07 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 07 21:42 |
| schestowitz | twitter: but is it windows? | Oct 07 21:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure many drones use Linux | Oct 07 21:42 |
| schestowitz | and ground control is the issue | Oct 07 21:42 |
| schestowitz | They're controlled from the bases | Oct 07 21:42 |
| schestowitz | he engines and all just get signals | Oct 07 21:43 |
| schestowitz | so it's either a wireless issue | Oct 07 21:43 |
| schestowitz | which it doesn't sound like.. | Oct 07 21:43 |
| schestowitz | or something at the front end (controller), which would be on the desktop | Oct 07 21:43 |
| schestowitz | so possibly windows | Oct 07 21:43 |
| They think it slipped into the base on someone's USB key. | Oct 07 21:44 | |
| tvp | GNU/Linux will never be big on the desktop | Oct 07 21:44 |
| schestowitz | sooner or later the tsa will be uselless | Oct 07 21:44 |
| tvp | mainly because there's no GUI standard | Oct 07 21:44 |
| schestowitz | script kiddies will play Comanche with a real cruiser | Oct 07 21:44 |
| MinceR | tvp: there are enough standards for it | Oct 07 21:44 |
| *** ignoring troll tvp | Oct 07 21:44 | |
| MinceR | X, ICCCM, EWMH | Oct 07 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use Skynet | Oct 07 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | they were a good ISP | Oct 07 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | for dial up :P | Oct 07 21:45 |
| tvp | Windows 7 is a good desktop OS | Oct 07 21:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @mitchellmckenna: #Minecraft just released for all #android devices! http://t.co/tiHEgB6h | Oct 07 21:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 07 21:45 |
| *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights *!*@@89.194.29.165 | Oct 07 21:45 | |
| MinceR | that will be enough, then | Oct 07 21:45 |
| *tvp (~x@89.194.29.165) has left #techrights | Oct 07 21:45 | |
| *MinceR sets mode -q #techrights *!*@@89.194.29.165 | Oct 07 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0 | Oct 07 21:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.28 KB | Oct 07 21:46 |
| tracing around the Microsoft press for clues http://www.itworld.com/security/211317/air-force-drones-now-come-equipped-missiles-cameras-and-malware | Oct 07 21:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Air Force drones now come equipped with missiles, cameras and malware | ITworld .::. Size~: 118.94 KB | Oct 07 21:48 |
| looks like Windows crap to me http://www.disa.mil/Services/Information-Assurance/HBSS | Oct 07 21:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Host Based Security System (HBSS) .::. Size~: 42.62 KB | Oct 07 21:48 |
| check the news section, all about Windows | Oct 07 21:49 | |
| _Goblin | MinceR: I think if he had added "Windows 7 is a good desktop OS if the only other one you've ever used is Vista" then it would have been accurate... | Oct 07 21:50 |
| MinceR | still somewhat erroneous | Oct 07 21:50 |
| MinceR | but it wouldn't have been obviously a troll then | Oct 07 21:50 |
| _Goblin | :) | Oct 07 21:50 |
| _Goblin | He did try though.... | Oct 07 21:50 |
| _Goblin | give him credit.... | Oct 07 21:50 |
| _Goblin | try the RMS angle.... | Oct 07 21:51 |
| _Goblin | then go for the juggular with the windows is great.... | Oct 07 21:51 |
| _Goblin | I won't how long his "cunning" plan took to cook up. | Oct 07 21:51 |
| _Goblin | *wonder | Oct 07 21:51 |
| MinceR | it's sad if that was planned | Oct 07 21:51 |
| MinceR | well, it's sad nevertheless | Oct 07 21:51 |
| _Goblin | there is one Microsoft product which was actually fantastic (and I'm not being sarcastic here)... | Oct 07 21:52 |
| _Goblin | it was one which many people of my family enjoyed. | Oct 07 21:53 |
| _Goblin | but MS for some reason killed it.... | Oct 07 21:53 |
| _Goblin | madness.... | Oct 07 21:53 |
| _Goblin | It was MSFlight sim. | Oct 07 21:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0 | Oct 07 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.68 KB | Oct 07 21:54 |
| schestowitz | oops... | Oct 07 21:55 |
| schestowitz | wrong URL | Oct 07 21:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TfYuz80hRRU | Oct 07 21:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WORLD RECORD Ryan Kennelly benches 1070 - YouTube .::. Size~: 86.21 KB | Oct 07 21:55 |
| schestowitz | He tried more.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=a_HfGJQp0_A | Oct 07 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 1090 lb. Bench Press (world record attempt) - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.89 KB | Oct 07 21:56 |
| cubezzz | ah, I missed the excitement | Oct 07 21:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/06/libreoffice_flaw_fix/ | Oct 07 21:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice fixes virus-friendly Word import flaw • The Register .::. Size~: 24.22 KB | Oct 07 21:57 |
| heh, import your virus without the virus | Oct 07 21:58 | |
| Microsoft makes these stupid mixed data and executable formats | Oct 07 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/07/unix_time_zone_database_destroyed/ | Oct 07 21:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chaos feared after Unix time-zone database is nuked • The Register .::. Size~: 28.8 KB | Oct 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | feature compatibility, bug compatibility, malware compatibility :> | Oct 07 21:59 |
| schestowitz | the "logy" doesn't stand for logic but for fraud, scam | Oct 07 21:59 |
| I saw something about the timezone being down | Oct 07 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: one land, one.. never mind | Oct 07 22:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 07 22:00 |
| schestowitz | twitter: yes, I mentioned this last night | Oct 07 22:00 |
| schestowitz | some idiot with fraud peddling | Oct 07 22:00 |
| schestowitz | and copyright law abuse | Oct 07 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | "The internet's authoritative source for time-zone data has been shut down after the volunteer programmer who maintained it was sued for copyright infringement by a maker of astrology software." | Oct 07 22:01 |
| cubezzz | I didn't get to tell tvp about fc1 | Oct 07 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | is this some kind of joke? | Oct 07 22:01 |
| zoobab | hi | Oct 07 22:02 |
| schestowitz | hello | Oct 07 22:02 |
| I'm not sure, it's been making the rounds. | Oct 07 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: swpats in the uk, eh? | Oct 07 22:02 |
| zoobab | yo | Oct 07 22:02 |
| zoobab | bad news heh | Oct 07 22:02 |
| schestowitz | expected | Oct 07 22:02 |
| zoobab | yes | Oct 07 22:03 |
| schestowitz | i had an argument about this with some professor who has swoats here for a while | Oct 07 22:03 |
| zoobab | another reason to start an EU-wide strike | Oct 07 22:03 |
| schestowitz | uk-'ipo' just hides it under the carpet | Oct 07 22:03 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: he's still connected to the network | Oct 07 22:03 |
| MinceR | hay zoobab | Oct 07 22:03 |
| schestowitz | MinceR will organise in absurdistan | Oct 07 22:04 |
| zoobab | now the UK and DE have caselaw to validate them, we have something to complain about | Oct 07 22:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe orban can invite ballmer to help | Oct 07 22:04 |
| schestowitz | he can visit budapest uni again | Oct 07 22:04 |
| zoobab | especially that those judges are the leading ones that will become the ones of the EU central court | Oct 07 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Oct 07 22:05 |
| schestowitz | But what action can mere peons organise? | Oct 07 22:05 |
| zoobab | JURI is discussing the EU patent this week | Oct 07 22:05 |
| schestowitz | The lawyers piss on us | Oct 07 22:05 |
| schestowitz | they do it for a living | Oct 07 22:05 |
| schestowitz | patents are their lives | Oct 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz | developers write code | Oct 07 22:06 |
| looks like a real lawsuit. Astrolabe claims ownership of the tables and presumably the data within, which is stupid. People can't own information in the US. | Oct 07 22:06 | |
| schestowitz | multinatiobnals have lobbyists | Oct 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz | smas don't | Oct 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz | just fake ones | Oct 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz | like Microsoft Zuck | Oct 07 22:06 |
| zoobab | like Zuck? | Oct 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz | and "SME Alliance" | Oct 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz | in the UK | Oct 07 22:06 |
| zoobab | ahah you read my mind | Oct 07 22:06 |
| zoobab | and Florian is working for MS now | Oct 07 22:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] http://ur1.ca/5bxui -- @kaz !gnu !fsf !lp !cc #ADL11 | Oct 07 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Neary: What community? http://ur1.ca/5bxv8 | Oct 07 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon for Friday http://ur1.ca/5bxtp !SelfPub | Oct 07 22:07 | |
| schestowitz | thankfully, Zuck is here to defend and represent 3000 SMEs | Oct 07 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ada Lovelace Day: Karen Sandler — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 27.11 KB | Oct 07 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Neary: What community? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.05 KB | Oct 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Gawd bless him | Oct 07 22:07 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: get real. hungarians won't even go on strike against the abolition of freedom of speech, rule of law and right to private property | Oct 07 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Inconstant Moon – 132 .::. Size~: 18.16 KB | Oct 07 22:07 |
| MinceR | this "country" is hopeless | Oct 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Oct 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz | I saw your leader | Oct 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz | he has a nice car | Oct 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz | he's doing all right | Oct 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz | btw | Oct 07 22:07 |
| zoobab | Hungarians were the first to insert a crack in the wall in 1956 | Oct 07 22:08 |
| MinceR | robbing/stealing from people isn't that difficult | Oct 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | today I spoke at the gym with someone who saw our PM's talks | Oct 07 22:08 |
| MinceR | zoobab: yes, the ones who had a clue fled back then and never looked back | Oct 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | where I go to work out they had the one-week Conservatives Convention | Oct 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | And some of my friends were in those meetings | Oct 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | And it's scary what they heard | Oct 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz | like Cameron saying people should pay back credit debt... meaning sell their houses too | Oct 07 22:09 |
| zoobab | like? | Oct 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz | They're sort of scared and confused | Oct 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz | These were private meetings, BTW | Oct 07 22:09 |
| MinceR | http://www.blazemonger.com/BM/ | Oct 07 22:10 |
| zoobab | the whole bank thing is dead once the state intervenes in the house credit business | Oct 07 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BLAZEMONGER Home Page .::. Size~: 1.46 KB | Oct 07 22:10 |
| schestowitz | maybe they'll reset some currencies | Oct 07 22:10 |
| schestowitz | to consolidate western debt | Oct 07 22:10 |
| schestowitz | if that's doable at all | Oct 07 22:10 |
| schestowitz | the UK doesn't use euros yet | Oct 07 22:10 |
| zoobab | euro is going down, for the benefit of the US and China | Oct 07 22:11 |
| schestowitz | there are discussions here about dissing the Lisbon treaty and human rights (UK) to start going hard on illegal immigrants | Oct 07 22:11 |
| schestowitz | who can claim residency here after 10 years of illegally being here | Oct 07 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06/2227259/oracle-to-pay-us-almost-200m-to-resolve-false-claims-lawsuit | Oct 07 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle To Pay US Almost $200M To Resolve False Claims Lawsuit - Slashdot .::. Size~: 138.84 KB | Oct 07 22:11 |
| schestowitz | that would piss off the UN and EU... so the UK is ignoring the problem for now. It's a bigger problem in the US though. | Oct 07 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06/2022248/competing-contests-to-create-pro--and-anti-piracy-psas | Oct 07 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Competing Contests To Create Pro- and Anti-Piracy PSAs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 145.66 KB | Oct 07 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | "discovered the whole thing was really a propaganda front for NBC Universal" | Oct 07 22:12 |
| zoobab | US is probably the next Greece | Oct 07 22:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: for a moment there I thought ORCL would pay Google | Oct 07 22:12 |
| schestowitz | That would have been funny | Oct 07 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has sued and ended up settling to pay their intended victim | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: occupied already | Oct 07 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | remember the Lindows thing? | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | i accumulated some links | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | 20m | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | got their money's worth | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | later used linspire as their puppet for patent FUD | Oct 07 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | they weren't going to win so they dropped the suit and paid Lindows $20 million to change names | Oct 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz | !google hgih brow pirates linspire | Oct 07 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Kevin Carmony's Blog: Review: Ubuntu 7.10 - Wow! The Best ... | http://kevincarmony.blogspot.com/2007/10/review-ubuntu-710-wow-best-desktop.html | Oct 07 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CNR for Ubuntu 7.10 available [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-636551.html | Oct 07 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - February » 2010 » High Brow Pirate to Hometown Pastor | http://piratetopastor.com/2010/02/ | Oct 07 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Willing to buy a high-end, free ... | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/131 | Oct 07 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=high+brow+pirates+linspire | Oct 07 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: high brow pirates linspire at DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 7.56 KB | Oct 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they cou;dn't own language, could they? | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | btw | Oct 07 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use Google search much | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | earlier i sought an image of halliburton's logo | Oct 07 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | only when duck duck go results don't have what I want | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | cause they did some patent evil in the uk | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | turns out their logo is too generic to have copyrights | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | which I thought was rare | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: DDG uses Google too IIIRC | Oct 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | and bong | Oct 07 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | well, they probably figured they'd change names before it became an issue | Oct 07 22:15 |
| MinceR | afaik DDG doesn't use google | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | never? | Oct 07 22:16 |
| MinceR | though you can start a google search through it via a bang command | Oct 07 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | using Bing as one source of many is fine | Oct 07 22:16 |
| MinceR | but it isn't listed among the sources | Oct 07 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | depending on Bing would be bad | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | band command? | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | bang sounds similar to Microsoft's | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer doesn't google it | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | he BANGS it | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | !Google ballmer likes yang youtube | Oct 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | !google ballmer likes yang youtube | Oct 07 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft Ballmer Yahoo Jerry Yang Mating Dance - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGyW9b7Z8Y2M | Oct 07 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ballmer and Yang, sitting in a tree... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtkhTRjdVhZM | Oct 07 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - from Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to Yahoo! CEO Jerry Yang ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DW5dO1j3sYcY | Oct 07 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Employees Complaining Online | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-employees-complaining-2011-9%3Fop%3D1 | Oct 07 22:17 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/bang.html | Oct 07 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: bang .::. Size~: 3.1 KB | Oct 07 22:17 |
| MinceR | meaning 1 | Oct 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ROVgvpdVM&feature=related | Oct 07 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Ballmer On Yahoo - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.32 KB | Oct 07 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I think OpenSuse may really be stalling on GRUB 2 because it is GPL 3 licensed | Oct 07 22:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5xCVwzOfc8 | Oct 07 22:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: He Loves Another Company! Microhoo - YouTube .::. Size~: 77.35 KB | Oct 07 22:18 |
| schestowitz | ewww... | Oct 07 22:18 |
| MinceR | also, https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html | Oct 07 22:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @fsf http://ur1.ca/5bxui -- @kaz !gnu !fsf !lp !cc #ADL11 | Oct 07 22:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Duck Duck !Bang .::. Size~: 60.14 KB | Oct 07 22:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ada Lovelace Day: Karen Sandler — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 27.11 KB | Oct 07 22:18 |
| MinceR | the list of sources is at https://duckduckgo.com/faq.html ("Where do you get your results?") | Oct 07 22:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DuckDuckGo FAQ .::. Size~: 17.55 KB | Oct 07 22:20 |
| schestowitz | faq bang | Oct 07 22:20 |
| MinceR | flash bang | Oct 07 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if I want to search google, I just use !g | Oct 07 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | !b would get bing | Oct 07 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | I use !youtube and !wikipedia quite a lot | Oct 07 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | !wiktionary too | Oct 07 22:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you're famous | Oct 07 22:24 |
| schestowitz | a troll is quoting you on HJobs in COLA | Oct 07 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Jobs | Oct 07 22:25 |
| schestowitz | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06/144221/phelps-clan-tweets-intent-to-picket-jobs-funeral-via-iphone | Oct 07 22:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Phelps Clan Tweets Intent To Picket Jobs Funeral Via iPhone - Slashdot .::. Size~: 148.31 KB | Oct 07 22:26 |
| schestowitz | "It comes as no surprise that Margie Phelps of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church has already declared the church's intention to picket Steve Jobs's funeral. What is interesting, is that she did so using an iPhone. The 142 characters of wrath read: "Westboro will picket his funeral.He[sic] had a huge platform; gave God no glory & taught sin. MT @AP: Apple co-founder Steve Jobs has died at 56."" | Oct 07 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Interesting that the troll found another forum to troll | Oct 07 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The last release of Freespire was mostly just Kubuntu with proprietary crap tacked on | Oct 07 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Linspire too | Oct 07 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Carmony claimed he was using Ubuntu after he got fired from Linspire | Oct 07 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | which is one of those high brow pirate distros he was talking about | Oct 07 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | with the "illegal" software | Oct 07 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | those codecs are not illegal | Oct 07 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I could be sued in civil court if they could actually prove I had them and wanted to bother with me | Oct 07 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see that happening | Oct 07 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | and as he pointed out himself, they're not patent encumbered in many countries | Oct 07 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't believe it is Canonical's job to figure out where I am in the world and tell me not to take them | Oct 07 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | (especially since they're not legally liable for it anyway) | Oct 07 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | Carmony's argument is that free software that doesn't use any code written by the patent cartels should censor itself worldwide because of laws in the United States | Oct 07 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | I don't agree :) | Oct 07 22:30 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: good for him. did he take flowers to the nearest crApple shop already? | Oct 07 22:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: some of them are probably illegal in some states | Oct 07 22:34 |
| schestowitz | ____/ Homer on Friday 07 Oct 2011 21:41 : \____ | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > Verily I say unto thee that chrisv spake thusly: | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | >> As much as Apple enthusiasts may enjoy Job's toys, Free software has | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | >> benefitted the world *far* more. | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > For the anti-Linux nuts who don't understand that statement (because | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > they think like consumers who can't see beyond the "desktop"), they | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > should consider this: | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > How many enterprise and embedded market products benefit from anything | Oct 07 22:35 |
| schestowitz | > ever made by Apple? | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > In fact, how much of what we do with computers, or even generic consumer | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > devices, today is in any way dependent on Apple? | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > Now, answer those same questions for Free Software. | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > Apple isn't a technology company, it's a fashion statement. | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | That's from slated.org's guy | Oct 07 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: In Tennessee it's illegal to share your netflix account | Oct 07 22:36 |
| MinceR | well said, as usual | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | [22:27] <DaemonFC> those codecs are not illegal | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | What's illgeal codec? | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Does it cause brian damage? | Oct 07 22:36 |
| schestowitz | is is type A? | Oct 07 22:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Schneier on Security: #FBI-Sponsored #Backdoors - #usa #surveillance #policestate http://ur1.ca/5by30 | Oct 07 22:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Kevin Carmony does cause brain damage | Oct 07 22:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Schneier on Security: FBI-Sponsored Backdoors .::. Size~: 33.42 KB | Oct 07 22:37 |
| MinceR | but he's talking about Brian damage | Oct 07 22:37 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: the ones you haven't paid the codec mafia the protection money for :> | Oct 07 22:37 |
| schestowitz | me: " | Oct 07 22:37 |
| schestowitz | An accessories label. Gucci doesn't make fabrics. It labels them and makes | Oct 07 22:37 |
| schestowitz | a lot of money. | Oct 07 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I know | Oct 07 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > If large numbers of people 'stand up' and label Roy and/or Stallman as | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > a liar, troll or worse... it wouldn't mean anything according to you. | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > The poor hypocrite Snit... unable to apply his own standards to | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > himself. | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > (cue up Snit's claim that these people deserve something he doesn't in | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > the "miserable humanbeing" category, despite nearly everyone he has | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > come into contact with online making it clear they believe he is a | Oct 07 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > "miserable humanbeing" ). | Oct 07 22:39 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 07 22:44 |
| schestowitz | wth, people use twitter now like it's facebook? http://twitter.com/#!/NavinChauhan/status/122407681544818688 | Oct 07 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @NavinChauhan: @schestowitz i'm watching twitter for next 30 minutes or so only . are you free to meet over the weekend or early next week ... | Oct 07 22:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh | Oct 07 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And I expect they've found excellent uses for plastics. | Oct 07 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Millions of #Linux Tablets for 220 Million Indian Children? http://ur1.ca/5byhb | Oct 07 22:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: India’s Small Cheap Tablet PC Arrives at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 29.46 KB | Oct 07 22:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #FabulousFridays @ren_thompson @jessenovels @wayneborean @camdearlove @encyclomundi @lstench @schestowitz @pensadorlouco @larryrusswurm | Oct 07 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Opera 12 isn't too bad | Oct 07 23:08 |
| *DaemonFC is checking out the latest developer build | Oct 07 23:08 | |
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| After thinking about it, the surest sign that the drone center botnet infected Windows is the fact that no OS is mentioned. Microsoft people would be crowing all over the world about that one. | Oct 07 23:11 | |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Paul's channel has gotten quite good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr84Bt0rWrM&feature=digest_refresh_fri | Oct 07 23:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] One year ago today the 7th of October I signed up on !Identica :)! CC !Identiverse | Oct 07 23:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] New Miniconf announcement: Availability aims high @linuxconfau http://bit.ly/n88s80 // cc @tserong @StewartSmith | Oct 07 23:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Availability aims high at linux.conf.au - linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 19.36 KB | Oct 07 23:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks, Cameron! (candidate who believes in #democracy! ) "Dearlove: Words of Thanks and Words of Reflection" http://ur1.ca/5byik !ONpoli | Oct 07 23:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dearlove: Words of Thanks and Words of Reflection | Cameron Dearlove for Kitchener Centre .::. Size~: 37.09 KB | Oct 07 23:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/10/2011: KDE SC 4.7.2, Thunderbird 8 Beta http://ur1.ca/5byo6 #techrights | Oct 07 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 7/10/2011: KDE SC 4.7.2, Thunderbird 8 Beta | Techrights .::. Size~: 111.7 KB | Oct 07 23:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The part where google knows who I am when I turn on the phone. I've told my cell phone provider, not google. | Oct 07 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/10/07/our-view-on-the-changing-linux-landscape-is-out/ | Oct 07 23:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 451 CAOS Theory » Our view on the Changing Linux Landscape is out .::. Size~: 39.84 KB | Oct 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | for purchase LOL | Oct 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | TechrightsBot-tr: ms jack too | Oct 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | twitter: ^ | Oct 07 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/10/07/451-caos-links-2011-10-07/ | Oct 07 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 23:29 |
| schestowitz | One more thing… | Oct 07 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Apple’s relationship with open source may be somewhat tenuous – Paul Rooney provides some background – but given the impact Steve Jobs has made on the industry as a whole it seems wrong not to mark his passing in some way. We’ll leave the words to the company he created. | Oct 07 23:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 23:29 |
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| DaemonFC | http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/08/19/microsoft-worlds-broadest-supporter-of-linux/ | Oct 07 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 451 CAOS Theory » Microsoft, broadest supporter of Linux .::. Size~: 44.8 KB | Oct 07 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 23:30 |
| MinceR | "may you be supported by microsoft" | Oct 07 23:30 |
| MinceR | newest curse? | Oct 07 23:31 |
| cubezzz | how do they figure microsoft is the broadest supporter? | Oct 07 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has a new site that encourages people to stop paying Red Hat for support and start paying them instead | Oct 07 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That's what I thought. And I didn't. | Oct 07 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC | (through AttachMate) | Oct 07 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://expandedsupport.com/ | Oct 07 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ExpandedSupport .::. Size~: 8.73 KB | Oct 07 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | look at the certificate signer | Oct 07 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 23:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What community? http://ur1.ca/5bjlo intersting points there | Oct 07 23:33 | |
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| cubezzz | they don't miss a trick | Oct 07 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | World-class Linux support, minus the "Red Hat Tax". | Oct 07 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 07 23:35 |
| MinceR | apparently they did miss a trick, after all | Oct 07 23:36 |
| MinceR | the one that says "don't be so cheap as to not buy another cert so your name isn't shown RIGHT IN THE ADDRESS BAR, tipping off the people you're trying to rip off" | Oct 07 23:37 |
| cubezzz | well yeah :) | Oct 07 23:37 |
| MinceR | m$ is getting weak, they're starting to suck even at the Potemkin company game | Oct 07 23:38 |
| cubezzz | and it says right at the bottom: | Oct 07 23:39 |
| cubezzz | What is ExpandedSupport.com? | Oct 07 23:39 |
| cubezzz | ExpandedSupport.com is brought to you by SUSE and Microsoft. | Oct 07 23:39 |
| MinceR | and there's an m$ logo down there | Oct 07 23:39 |
| cubezzz | they aren't trying to hide it | Oct 07 23:39 |
| MinceR | i wonder who will fall for this one | Oct 07 23:39 |
| MinceR | "whom to buy support for my GNU/Linux installations? let's see... the company that's trying to destroy GNU/Linux, that's the one!" | Oct 07 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE activities http://ur1.ca/5bysc "So it was that the beginnings of Activities..." | Oct 07 23:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Identica went to my Identica page. | Oct 07 23:40 | |
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| cubezzz | don't think they are trying to destroy it any more | Oct 07 23:40 |
| cubezzz | they're trying to subsume it | Oct 07 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: "It's October? Already? (Inconstant Moon Update)" http://ur1.ca/5byt6 !selfPub | Oct 07 23:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It’s October? Already? (Inconstant Moon Update) « Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 65.44 KB | Oct 07 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... on my way out to Ubuntu Hour at the Misty Mountain Cafe in Kitchener ... | Oct 07 23:43 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: destroy is not the right word | Oct 07 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | suck the life out of | Oct 07 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | that's better | Oct 07 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://us.generation-nt.com/odf-oasis-format-open-office-news-3173421.html | Oct 07 23:45 |
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| cubezzz | except they can't | Oct 07 23:45 |
| cubezzz | multi-headed hydra remember? :) | Oct 07 23:45 |
| MinceR | if they subsume, that will destroy it | Oct 07 23:47 |
| MinceR | except perhaps in swpatent-less countries | Oct 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Thatbw as always their plan | Oct 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz | via Novell | Oct 07 23:47 |
| MinceR | of course then they'll march the USA against those countries | Oct 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they bypass the law | Oct 07 23:48 |
| cubezzz | ah, you're too pessimistic | Oct 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz | The US empire doesn't have any regard tom foreign klaws | Oct 07 23:48 |
| cubezzz | really they can't subsume linux | Oct 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz | they tried | Oct 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz | we boycotted novell | Oct 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz | and this hydra head got chopped off | Oct 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz | along with xandros, linspire, and turbolinux | Oct 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz | now they try going after android | Oct 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz | but it spreads too quickly | Oct 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84474882 | Oct 07 23:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-11 22:33:17 UTC - Identi.ca: Reality Check: Contributions to #Apache #Hadoop http://ur1.ca/5byrq | Oct 07 23:49 |
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| cubezzz | except bell labs freed Unix back in 2002 remember? | Oct 07 23:49 |
| cubezzz | and there's Minix and the BSDs | Oct 07 23:49 |
| MinceR | now they're trying to lock PCs into winblows | Oct 07 23:50 |
| cubezzz | is Microsoft going to subsume all that too? | Oct 07 23:50 |
| MinceR | they'll just abuse patent law against them if it comes to that | Oct 07 23:50 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, how are they locking PCs to windows? | Oct 07 23:50 |
| cubezzz | other than the obvious OEM control | Oct 07 23:51 |
| cubezzz | coreboot ensures the BIOS is safe | Oct 07 23:51 |
| schestowitz | to Microsoft, "Safe" means WIndows onlu | Oct 07 23:52 |
| schestowitz | "Safer" for shareholders | Oct 07 23:52 |
| schestowitz | !google boot vista 8 linux | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - How to dual-boot Vista with Linux (with Linux installed first) -- the ... | http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - How to dual-boot Vista with Linux (Vista installed first) -- the step-by ... | http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Dual boot Vista and Linux - TechSpot OpenBoards | http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic76641.html | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How can I remove vista from a ubuntu / vista dual boot! | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-can-i-remove-vista-from-a-ubuntu-vista-dual-boot-648401/ | Oct 07 23:52 |
| cubezzz | that would be my only concern... if the BIOS locked out FOSS | Oct 07 23:52 |
| schestowitz | !google boot vista 8 linux techrights | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Vista 8 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/vista-8/ | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft Finds Another Excuse to Block GNU/Linux | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/09/22/tricks-with-boot-process/ | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - There is No Windows 8, It is Vista With New Tweaks | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/01/vista-8/ | Oct 07 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Windows Killer Feature: It Kills GNU/Linux Partitioning | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/08/system-updates-vs-grub/ | Oct 07 23:52 |
| cubezzz | but I think that's been prevented | Oct 07 23:52 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: UEFI "secure" boot | Oct 07 23:53 |
| schestowitz | there was a complaint filed to the AAAC | Oct 07 23:53 |
| schestowitz | In tiny AUssie | Oct 07 23:53 |
| MinceR | they're forcing OEMs to only include the key for the vista8 bootloader/kernel, so all others are locked out | Oct 07 23:53 |
| schestowitz | UFI sickWhore boot | Oct 07 23:53 |
| cubezzz | that's why I mentioned coreboot | Oct 07 23:53 |
| MinceR | and of course all the antitrust authorities are just a sham | Oct 07 23:53 |
| schestowitz | UFO sucksWhore boot | Oct 07 23:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they're not dead yet? | Oct 07 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I thought rhe bankers took a dump on them too | Oct 07 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Free market FTW :-) free as in anarchy for corporations | Oct 07 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Raping the citizens with no police around | Oct 07 23:54 |
| MinceR | afaik they're kept around so the criminals can point at them and say "see, you're protected against monopoly abuse! no need to worry!" | Oct 07 23:55 |
| cubezzz | http://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2011/09/12/coreboot-in-shipping-products/ | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 07 23:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Coreboot in shipping products .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | ;ike the SEC | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Bunch of crooks | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | supposed to watch iiver the crooks | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | but cr0oks themselves | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | THey systematically destoryed evidence | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | about banks that commiteed crime | Oct 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz | USDOJ and FTC are not much better | Oct 07 23:56 |
| schestowitz | And the EU Commission if a Circus of Baorrosso now | Oct 07 23:56 |
| "You -effie" as in FU | Oct 07 23:56 | |
| that's a good way to think of the new boot software | Oct 07 23:56 | |
| schestowitz | you effin! boot | Oct 07 23:57 |
| cubezzz | right, hence the importance of bios source code | Oct 07 23:57 |
| yes, RMS was right again | Oct 07 23:57 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz will save Linux from tivoisation | Oct 07 23:57 |
| schestowitz | cause Linus won't do it | Oct 07 23:57 |
| schestowitz | !google linus like tivoization | Oct 07 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Tivoization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization | Oct 07 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Tivoization | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/tivoization/ | Oct 07 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - tivoization | Distracting Pages about Open Source Software | http://www.dposs.org/category/tivoization/ | Oct 07 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Coding Horror: Tivoization and the GPL | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/02/tivoization-and-the-gpl.html | Oct 07 23:58 |
| perhaps hurd will arrive | Oct 07 23:58 | |
| cubezzz | well tivo kind of sucks anyway | Oct 07 23:58 |
| cubezzz | so don't buy one :) | Oct 07 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Coding Horror:=Microsofter | Oct 07 23:58 |
| tivo only sucks because you can't make it better | Oct 07 23:58 | |
| schestowitz | Probably some raving loon post against the GPLv3 | Oct 07 23:58 |
| cubezzz | pay $99 for the box plus $12 per month for 2 years == crappy deal | Oct 07 23:58 |
| a tivo would be very nice if the software could be replaced | Oct 07 23:59 | |
| cubezzz | well it can be hacked I guess | Oct 07 23:59 |
| schestowitz | $12 for a virus expert visit would be cheap | Oct 07 23:59 |
| schestowitz | every month | Oct 07 23:59 |
| no, tivo can not be hacked | Oct 07 23:59 | |
| cubezzz | and you don't have to activate the subscription thing | Oct 07 23:59 |
| schestowitz | what are you, exploiting then teen next door? | Oct 07 23:59 |
| cubezzz | come on, anything is hackable | Oct 07 23:59 |
| schestowitz | the Wjindows 'geek'? | Oct 07 23:59 |
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