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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @HeartPowered: Live streaming now! @RevTruth http://t.co/tPST4PUQ. #Whistleblowing panel w McCord, Prysner, hosted by Jeff Paterson B ... | Mar 22 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] PRESS RELEASE for Malaysia | Mar 22 00:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/3/2012: Torvalds Secrets, Radeon HD 7000 Driver Now Free/Libre http://ur1.ca/8rc1m #techrights | Mar 22 00:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Mar 22 00:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for March 22, 2012 http://ur1.ca/8rc7j | Mar 22 00:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New #Samsung TV Watches You Watching It - Slashdot http://goo.gl/Z08mT #bigbrother | Mar 22 00:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] debrief = remove underwear = the precursor to being fucked in the ass #FBI #CIA | Mar 22 00:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69614-Wubi-Is-Likely-To-Wobble-Back-In-Ubuntu&p=255163#post255163 | Mar 22 00:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !debian !aptosid - what should I do with such a conundrum? http://ur1.ca/8rc9v #upgrades | Mar 22 00:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @laurelrusswurm new AIM: "...storing all of your conversations on AOL’s servers for up to two months, & perhaps indefinitely..."~EFF ... | Mar 22 00:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Be warned: the new AIM is a step back in privacy. Here's what to know if you're upgrading today: https://eff.org/r.4Nw | Mar 22 00:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek IDK about the php and libgd stuff, but removing those kdebase* things is the way to go. They're dummy packages now | Mar 22 00:51 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69614-Wubi-Is-Likely-To-Wobble-Back-In-Ubuntu&p=255167#post255167 | Mar 22 00:52 |
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| formic_ | U BUN TOO? | Mar 22 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Wubi is just an all around bad idea unless you're just toying around and considering a native persistent installation later on | Mar 22 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | loopmounted file systems are buggy and slow, and many power management features are not safe to use in that configuration and must be disabled | Mar 22 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | and if anything happens to Windows, your Ubuntu installation is destroyed too | Mar 22 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | and the concept of Wubi isn't new, Mandrake Linux has a system like that that loopmounted Ext2 on top of FAT16/32 on Windows 9x as a way to try it out | Mar 22 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | and it was even less reliable then | Mar 22 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | and BeOS Personal Edition did something similar | Mar 22 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | *had a system rather | Mar 22 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | Mandrake eventually dropped it because such a configuration is basically unsupportable | Mar 22 01:01 |
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| DaemonFC | if you're using Wubi, there are tools to turn it into a native install | Mar 22 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | but obviously things can go horribly wrong in the process | Mar 22 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | you're better off to just nuke Windows and not even try to dual boot anything else with it | Mar 22 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | it has a way of bumping off anything that you try to install alongside it | Mar 22 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | it frequently either messes up GRUB, or you can actually install Windows software from Adobe that tries writing to the MBR as part of its Digital Restrictions Malware, and doesn't attempt to check for non-NTLDR bootloaders first | Mar 22 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | and that will destroy GRUB as well | Mar 22 01:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi cool. will thet get me to kde 4.7 on !debian? will that make me use #Akonadi? has #Akonadi matured enough so that it's usable? | Mar 22 01:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 6-Strikes coming to an ISP near you. RIAA confirms ISPs are shooting for a July 1 launch of "graduated response." https://eff.org/r.V86 | Mar 22 01:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek you should get 4.7.4 (aptitude's -V would show you), Kmail will require Akonadi, and usable... it depends, might work great, or fail | Mar 22 01:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] End of the Road Documentary Trailer - YouTube http://goo.gl/IKqbw #docs | Mar 22 01:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: Insider Trading 9/11 ... the Facts Laid Bare http://goo.gl/2sNke #911 | Mar 22 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @johnfmoore !GovInTheLab How China Gets the Internet to Censor Itself http://bit.ly/GMZ46O | Mar 22 01:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How China Gets the Internet to Censor Itself | Government In The Lab .::. Size~: 53.01 KB | Mar 22 01:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi got 10s of thousands of e-mails in my current KMail setup; you think I should wait for 4.8 maybe? | Mar 22 01:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good luck! | Mar 22 01:51 | |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Narcissistic Cannibal by Korn ft. Skrillex & Kill The Noise on The Path of Totality (Special Edition) [Amarok] | Mar 22 02:04 | |
| DaemonFC | and I'm back to using DuckDuckGo | Mar 22 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | they've improved their results and Google is pissing me off | Mar 22 02:14 |
| prurigro | how about startpage? | Mar 22 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just Google being creepy | Mar 22 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | their algorithms are getting worse over time | Mar 22 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | and being gamed by content farms and fakes | Mar 22 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | HTTPS Everywhere 2 build 1 is out | Mar 22 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | 125 new rule sets | Mar 22 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | errr 3 build 1 that is | Mar 22 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 22 02:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It was an awesome exercise in documenting a personal dialect that otherwise only friends would know. I like oikoglossias, socioglossias. | Mar 22 02:17 | |
| DaemonFC | DuckDuckGo's one click infoboxes are nice | Mar 22 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Google claims they're going to do something similar soon | Mar 22 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://gitweb.torproject.org/https-everywhere.git/shortlog | Mar 22 02:18 |
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| DaemonFC | https everywhere on github | Mar 22 02:19 |
| prurigro | yea, duckduckgo does re-filter google's results on that note | Mar 22 02:19 |
| prurigro | google being creepy is a pretty good reason though | Mar 22 02:19 |
| prurigro | they're recording all the clearnet IRC apparently | Mar 22 02:20 |
| prurigro | or at least they bought a company that had been | Mar 22 02:20 |
| prurigro | not sure how you filter without being present in a channel, but hey | Mar 22 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | Google and Facebook want their hooks in everything | Mar 22 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | even USENET isn't safe | Mar 22 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | https://secure.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/ | Mar 22 02:21 |
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| DaemonFC | the annoyances list blocks a lot of Google and Facebook tracking crap on third party sites | Mar 22 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | I recommend it | Mar 22 02:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @brainwane I'm honored that #osbridge has chosen me as one of their keynote speakers this year. http://ur1.ca/8rcx0 | Mar 22 02:22 | |
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| prurigro | word-- do all of those come with fanboy's? | Mar 22 02:22 |
| prurigro | I've been using easylist since forever | Mar 22 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | you should remove easylist and add Fanboys Lists | Mar 22 02:22 |
| prurigro | actually, seems I'm now using fanboy's- whaddya know | Mar 22 02:22 |
| prurigro | musta come as the default when I reinstalled in january | Mar 22 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think those lists are a lot better than Easylist | Mar 22 02:22 |
| prurigro | yea, I didn't realize it involved tracking stuff | Mar 22 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | for a long time Easylist refused to block some ads outright | Mar 22 02:23 |
| prurigro | I thought social media links had just started to die out haha | Mar 22 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | and they were the nastiest ads and the most likely to install malware | Mar 22 02:23 |
| prurigro | why would they do that? | Mar 22 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | they had a policy that they wouldn't block any ads on porn sites, but that policy ironically led to pornographic ads loading on some file sharing sites | Mar 22 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | which Fanboy's lists blocked all along | Mar 22 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | plus Easylist is more closely affiliated with Wladimir Palant | Mar 22 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | and he's the one that decided certain ads were "acceptable" and to opt everyone into that when they moved to ABP 2.0 | Mar 22 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | so I really don't want him having a say in what my ad and tracking block lists contain | Mar 22 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | there's another Adblock Plus fork that has appeared that I have not looked into | Mar 22 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's a fork and continuation of the 1.x branch of Adblock Plus apparently | Mar 22 02:26 |
| prurigro | lolol, why would they not block porn ads? | Mar 22 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | because that branch was less resource heavy apparently | Mar 22 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: It was the policy of their previous Easylist maintainer, who died a few years ago | Mar 22 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | that policy has since changed | Mar 22 02:27 |
| prurigro | oh no kidding-- hopefully it still blocks popups etc, I mean, the chrome version doesn't seem to | Mar 22 02:27 |
| prurigro | and get out | Mar 22 02:27 |
| prurigro | died? | Mar 22 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 22 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | the founder of Freenode is also dead | Mar 22 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | traffic accident iirc | Mar 22 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Freenode was originally incorporated in Texas, now it's off in the UK somewhere iirc | Mar 22 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think the idea is that we all construct family, friend-group, and relationship jargons or dialects. Most disappear totally unattested. | Mar 22 02:28 | |
| DaemonFC | people die all the time | Mar 22 02:28 |
| prurigro | oh wow, that sucks | Mar 22 02:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Open Source: Using Mageia 1 for Six Months Now « The ERACC Web Log http://ur1.ca/8rcyt !Mageia #Mageia | Mar 22 02:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Nowhere is it Friday. #badbot | Mar 22 02:32 | |
| prurigro | I guess the guy everyone talks about is just the guy who currently runs it? | Mar 22 02:32 |
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| prurigro | thinking about it-- I suppose I never really noticed the porn ads since I've never hit up a porn site before | Mar 22 02:33 |
| prurigro | didn't notice the ones on torrent sites though at any point | Mar 22 02:34 |
| prurigro | and I was running easylist for quite a while | Mar 22 02:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Amarok's transcoder is broken in F17 again | Mar 22 02:36 |
| prurigro | lol, aren't their updates just patches? | Mar 22 02:37 |
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| DaemonFC | amarok: ffmpeg started | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: END__: virtual void Transcoding::Job::start() [Took: 0.003s] | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: END__: bool Collections::SqlCollectionLocation::startNextJob(Transcoding::Configuration) [Took: 0.004s] | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: END__: void Collections::TransferJob::slotJobFinished(KJob*) [Took: 0.005s] | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: END__: void Transcoding::Job::transcoderDone(int, QProcess::ExitStatus) [Took: 0.005s] | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: BEGIN: void Transcoding::Job::transcoderDone(int, QProcess::ExitStatus) | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: "" | Mar 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | amarok: NAY, transcoding fail! | Mar 22 02:37 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | Mar 22 02:37 | |
| prurigro | lol- wow | Mar 22 02:38 |
| prurigro | for a distro that uses stable release cycles, it feels like fedora doesn't pull off stability very well | Mar 22 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's Fedora 17, it's not even beta yet | Mar 22 02:38 |
| prurigro | ohhh, I was thinking 17 = 16 | Mar 22 02:39 |
| prurigro | makes more sense tho | Mar 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | I have ffmpeg | Mar 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | and it does work | Mar 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | but Amarok isn't using it now | Mar 22 02:39 |
| prurigro | oh interesting | Mar 22 02:41 |
| prurigro | so its specifically amarok's use of ffmpeg? I bet there's been some syntax/term changes that haven't been adopted yet | Mar 22 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've asked in #fedora-kde if this is even a bug | Mar 22 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | since ffmpeg is not part of Fedora, it is from RPM Fusion | Mar 22 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | [22:41] <Kevin_Kofler> Do you have the ffmpeg command line installed or just the libs? | Mar 22 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | [22:41] <Kevin_Kofler> Amarok is trying to invoke the command line. | Mar 22 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | [22:41] <Kevin_Kofler> Sadly, upstream refuses to support anything else. | Mar 22 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | [22:41] <DaemonFC> ffmpeg, the executable | Mar 22 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | [22:42] <Kevin_Kofler> They should really use GStreamer for transcoding. | Mar 22 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | [22:42] <DaemonFC> I agree, but I'd rather it work of course before worrying about how it works :) | Mar 22 02:42 |
| prurigro | haha, true that eh | Mar 22 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | [22:43] <DaemonFC> if I invoke ffmpeg myself on the command line, it does work as it should | Mar 22 02:43 |
| prurigro | this does sound potentially upstream tho | Mar 22 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC | it was working in the Amarok 2.5 packages on Fedora 16 | Mar 22 02:44 |
| prurigro | oh, same amarok then? | Mar 22 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, same version | Mar 22 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | the only difference is the Fedora 17 version is built with GCC 4.7 | Mar 22 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | and the Fedora 16 version is built with GCC 4.6 | Mar 22 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: prurigro Reading this article is reminding me of all those whiners who whined about Unity and/or Gnome Shell: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/121015-windows-8-may-drive-me-to-linux | Mar 22 02:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 8 may drive me to Linux | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 384.22 KB | Mar 22 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I'll work around this by pulling in that Soundconverter program | Mar 22 02:46 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, ohhh interesting-- did they updated glibc too? | Mar 22 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | even though it really is built for GNOME | Mar 22 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | and uses libraries that have been deprecated since GNOME 2.4 | Mar 22 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | and removed in GNOME 3 :) | Mar 22 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | glibc version 2.15 | Mar 22 02:46 |
| prurigro | sebsebseb, haha, yea, I read that one, and imo gnome and unity are a much better idea than that ridiculous thing they're calling windows 8 (aside from its tablet implementation, which its actually designed for and seems somewhat nice) | Mar 22 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | SoundConverter 2.0.1 | Mar 22 02:47 |
| prurigro | I've actually been hearing unity has been better since their fall update (I'd only tried it's spring release) | Mar 22 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME-powered Sound Conversion | Mar 22 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 22 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | well, they did port the interface to GTK 3 | Mar 22 02:48 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, soundconverter eh? I suppose that does what you were trying to do?... what were you trying to do? | Mar 22 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | but it still depends on orbit and bonobo | Mar 22 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | convert flac to Ogg | Mar 22 02:48 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, you're talking about unity or soundconverter when you say they ported it? | Mar 22 02:48 |
| prurigro | and word, why not just do that by script? | Mar 22 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | because | Mar 22 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I don't wanna! | Mar 22 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 02:49 |
| prurigro | there are plenty of flac2ogg scripts floating around that you could mix in with the find command | Mar 22 02:49 |
| prurigro | find . -type f -name "*.flac" -exec flac2ogg '{}' \; | Mar 22 02:49 |
| prurigro | if it needs an output file specified, find . -type f -name "*.flac" -exec flac2ogg '{}' '{}'.ogg \; | Mar 22 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | soundconverter uses Gstreamer to transcode | Mar 22 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's really unfortunate that Amarok doesn't | Mar 22 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | more stuff that's impossible to distribute in the USA that is needed before Amarok's transcoder will do anything for you at all | Mar 22 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | where at the very least, Gstreamer can work with unencumbered codecs | Mar 22 02:51 |
| prurigro | word, are they just limiting it straight up instead of making it optional? | Mar 22 02:54 |
| sebsebseb | prurigro: do I really need to complety start over if I put Windows 8 on my hard disk, and want to remove it, apparnatly so according to the Microsoft website | Mar 22 02:56 |
| sebsebseb | that doesn't quite sound right to me | Mar 22 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | [22:52] <DaemonFC> Kevin_Kofler: Clementine's transcoder uses gstreamer | Mar 22 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [22:52] <DaemonFC> but I'm not sure about the legalities of distributing Clementine as Fedora currently does | Mar 22 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [22:52] <DaemonFC> it uses Spotify trademarks and suggests the user install nonfree software (Spotify blob) | Mar 22 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [22:57] <DaemonFC> Kevin_Kofler: I noticed Ubuntu patched theirs to remove references to Spotify entirely | Mar 22 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [22:58] <DaemonFC> it at least violates the spirit of free software to sneak it in under the guise of being under the GPL just to have it tempt the user with someone's blob, but I don't know if there's a Fedora policy about that kind of behavior | Mar 22 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'd really like it if Fedora trashed Amarok, patched Clementine to not suggest Spotify, and slapped it in instead | Mar 22 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [22:59] <DaemonFC> It might be easier to just include Clementine than to ship Amarok with an entire feature broken without RPM Fusion | Mar 22 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | [23:02] <DaemonFC> aside from the ffmpeg problem, Amarok is turning into iTunes | Mar 22 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | [23:03] <DaemonFC> 350 MB of RAM to sit there and play a song is a little extreme | Mar 22 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | more distributions should be following Mandriva's lead | Mar 22 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | stage a mass revolt against Amarok for being broken, bloated, and now legally problematic | Mar 22 03:07 |
| prurigro | sebsebseb, what do you mean start over? and are you actually using windows? | Mar 22 03:07 |
| sebsebseb | prurigro: I meant I wanted to try out Windows 8 possbily | Mar 22 03:07 |
| sebsebseb | ,but according to the Microsoft website if it's installed | Mar 22 03:07 |
| sebsebseb | you can't just remove it, and keep any other OS on ther or whatever | Mar 22 03:08 |
| sebsebseb | or another version of Windows or whatever | Mar 22 03:08 |
| prurigro | sebsebseb, I like virtualbox for situations like what you're describing :) | Mar 22 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | [23:07] <Kevin_Kofler> Transcoding is not a required or primary feature of Amarok at all. | Mar 22 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | [23:07] <Kevin_Kofler> If you prefer, I can patch Amarok to hide the transcoding from the UI entirely. :-p | Mar 22 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | [23:08] <DaemonFC> uggh, at this point I don't know if I care what anyone does with it | Mar 22 03:10 |
| prurigro | sebsebseb, and how does it know if linux or win7 or anything else is on another HD? | Mar 22 03:10 |
| sebsebseb | prurigro: well yeah I was thinking that to, I can probably virtualbox Windows 8 anyway | Mar 22 03:11 |
| sebsebseb | altough only got 1GB RAM on this computer | Mar 22 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | [23:11] <DaemonFC> encouraging people to break the law (Amarok/ffmpeg) or baiting them with free software that just goes ahead and acts as a stub to help nonfree software leap over the fence (Clementine) are both disgusting | Mar 22 03:12 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, does clementine's transcoder possibly work actually? I'm just noticing that it uses gstreamer as a basis, and nowhere do I see ffmpeg in the deps despite having successfully converted numerous songs so far | Mar 22 03:12 |
| prurigro | sebsebseb, vbox has 3d emulation now too (which even works with win7's aero reasonably well) | Mar 22 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | [23:12] <DaemonFC> I can't figure out which one really offends me more, all I wanted Amarok to do was transcode something from Flac to Ogg Vorbis, I don't even use MPEG codecs at all | Mar 22 03:13 |
| sebsebseb | prurigro: oh | Mar 22 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | I may pull Clementine as source code, patch out the Spotify stub, and build it myself | Mar 22 03:14 |
| prurigro | sebsebseb, haha, not impressed? I just figured win8 might require that sorta thing | Mar 22 03:16 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, yo, if you do that, send me the patchset | Mar 22 03:17 |
| prurigro | it annoys me that it and a few other services are there, but I'm too lazy/busy at the moment to code-dive + test | Mar 22 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not even sure if it's entirely legal to even have that Spotify stub there that pulls in the blob | Mar 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's definitely an end run around the GPL | Mar 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | but even without that or the blob present, then you still run into things like Spotify's trademarks | Mar 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | and their copyrighted logo | Mar 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | and all sorts of fun nasty landmines | Mar 22 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | I might raise the issue on fedora-legal | Mar 22 03:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] !identica I've done some work to hide posts that are either from silenced users (usually spammers) or that score badly with our spam filter. | Mar 22 03:20 | |
| DaemonFC | see if Red Hat's lawyers make them patch that crap out or chuck Clementine entirely | Mar 22 03:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] !identica moderators will still see spam; I'm working on better UI (maybe crosshatched or dimmed out). | Mar 22 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey. Good luck on that. Let me know if you need help; evan@status.net. | Mar 22 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] One problem is that mod-helpers might see varying UIs. I might need to make some fine-tuning work over the next couple of days. | Mar 22 03:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We actually cache visibility info for about 5 minutes, so it takes a few minutes for them to disappear. Another important fix! | Mar 22 03:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I may change things so that at least the visibility for the anonymous (not-logged-in) user is flushed. | Mar 22 03:27 | |
| DaemonFC | [Fedora-legal-list] Concern about the Clementine music player application | Mar 22 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | Hello, | Mar 22 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | I have some concerns about the Clementine music player application as packaged in Fedora. The concerns involve the Spotify integration feature. | Mar 22 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | The application uses Spotify's trademarks and their copyrighted logo and suggests that the user pull in a proprietary application called "Spotify Core" to use the feature. This effectively makes the feature a stub that pulls in proprietary software. | Mar 22 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering if any of this is in violation of any Fedora packaging guidelines for the issues I've raised. | Mar 22 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you. | Mar 22 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | lets see what the lawyers have to say about that | Mar 22 03:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @anwaribrahim: Yes! @bktan98: Invitation accepted? @NajibRazak @RajaPetra @malaysiandigest: Wikileaks ... http://t.co/fZU4vuFM | Mar 22 03:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: tmi.me - bktan98: Amy comment Si .::. Size~: 5.56 KB | Mar 22 03:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] They *are* hidden; just not for a few minutes. It's more for moderator UI, so they can see the result of their work instantaneously. | Mar 22 03:33 | |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, nicely done-- would it still be legal if they released .so files that you could drop in as plugins? | Mar 22 03:36 |
| prurigro | cuz I feel like that would be a better approach anyway | Mar 22 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | well, you could do it yourself and not violate the GPL unless you DISTRIBUTED IT with the blob | Mar 22 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | then you'd be violating the GPL | Mar 22 03:39 |
| prurigro | hmm, I think its better that way anyway | Mar 22 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | but if it's for your own personal use and you never distribute it like that, it's not a GPL violation | Mar 22 03:40 |
| prurigro | like, distros could just make packages for each plugin or something | Mar 22 03:40 |
| prurigro | clementine-digitallyimported, clementine-spotify | Mar 22 03:40 |
| prurigro | etc | Mar 22 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 22 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | not with the blob | Mar 22 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | and nothing that offers to pull it in for you | Mar 22 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | if they include the blob then they definitely violate the GPL | Mar 22 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | if they assist the user in linking the blob to the software they probably violate the GPL | Mar 22 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | if the user does it entirely on their own, and doesn't distribute it, nobody violated the GPL | Mar 22 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: the terms of distributing the Spotify Core include displaying their logo and including a "This product uses Spotify Core" the user interface | Mar 22 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | but that introduces their trademarks and copyrights into the application which might....violate the GPL | Mar 22 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't see any way that you could distribute Clementine with spotify core or advertising spotify core by their terms and satisfy the GPL at the same time | Mar 22 03:46 |
| prurigro | hmm, what if there were two packages? one with the blob and one with the OSE plugin? | Mar 22 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | even the people that maintain Clementine can violate the GPL because they don't hold copyright on all of Clementine | Mar 22 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | so they'd be violating copyrights belonging to the Amarok developers | Mar 22 03:47 |
| prurigro | interesting | Mar 22 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure there's a way to satisfy both licenses | Mar 22 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | it would be better to just patch it out and have done with it and know for sure you're legal | Mar 22 03:48 |
| prurigro | or download the graphics from spotify through a web interface | Mar 22 03:49 |
| prurigro | ? | Mar 22 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to sound like a broken record | Mar 22 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | patch it out | Mar 22 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | kill it | Mar 22 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | kill it with fire | Mar 22 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 03:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The point is that moderators should be able to read it to find and correct false positives, but should be clear that it's "invisible". | Mar 22 03:52 | |
| prurigro | haha, well I mean I wouldn't complain | Mar 22 03:52 |
| prurigro | spotify is of no interest to me | Mar 22 03:52 |
| prurigro | but I assume they want support somehow | Mar 22 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | tell your users that are pissed to complain to Spotify's customer support that Spotify Core is not released under a free software license | Mar 22 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | and that only they can fix the problem by releasing it under the terms of either the GPL 2 or a simple permissive license | Mar 22 03:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Using a Bayesian filter has its upsides. I wouldn't filter out stuff based on client, but ActivitySpam just hates onlywire. | Mar 22 03:55 | |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Core's license is not free, it is not even open source | Mar 22 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | there's source code available but it's not open source | Mar 22 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | the source code is only made available so you can compile it against your particular software | Mar 22 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | you're not allowed to modify it | Mar 22 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | you must advertise Spotify and display their marks to use the resulting binary | Mar 22 03:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @eff Say no to the search of your devices! EFF has new "I Do Not Consent" stickers. https://eff.org/r.2V4 | Mar 22 03:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Otra" | Mar 22 04:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/03/iphone-tsa-security-fail-combo/ | Mar 22 04:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "There's no "lock immediately" command on the iPhone" | Mar 22 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | haha | Mar 22 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | you use Apple, you don't deserve privacy | Mar 22 04:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm starting to think I agree; I'm going to try flushing cache immediately after something's scored. Tomorrow; I'm tired tonight. | Mar 22 04:12 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.hulu.com/lexx | Mar 22 04:12 |
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| DaemonFC | YES! | Mar 22 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | YEEEEEES!!! | Mar 22 04:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I haven't checked, but let's go drink that night anyway. | Mar 22 04:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No reason not to do both. | Mar 22 04:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Right now github's issue tracker is my favorite bug tracker in the world. | Mar 22 04:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoNgZAnifvQ | Mar 22 04:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/03/transhuman-intelligences-have-deployed-icebreakers-to-accelerate-your-enslavement/ | Mar 22 04:17 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2012/03/16/uk-phones-and-freedom/ | Mar 22 04:34 |
| scientes | in the US every grocery store sells pre-paid cell phones | Mar 22 04:35 |
| scientes | and you can also buy "top-up" cards | Mar 22 04:35 |
| scientes | all with cash | Mar 22 04:35 |
| scientes | however, pay wish cash i ask you http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/ | Mar 22 04:36 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, do you have anything on cPanel that might be interesting to me? | Mar 22 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | scientes: That's just shameful | Mar 22 04:46 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, haha, that's kinda retarded-- why the hell woudln't they just open it up at that point? | Mar 22 04:46 |
| scientes | open up what? | Mar 22 04:46 |
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| prurigro | the spotify sources | Mar 22 04:51 |
| prurigro | they're clearly not protecting anything-- and honestly, does their ugly logo really matter when only subscribers are gonna be logging in anyway? | Mar 22 04:51 |
| scientes | why can't MSFT pull their head out of their asses? | Mar 22 04:52 |
| scientes | I guess its easier for them to just milk it for everything its got | Mar 22 04:52 |
| scientes | (which actually isn't much) | Mar 22 04:53 |
| scientes | xcept fot the FUD | Mar 22 04:53 |
| prurigro | MSFT? | Mar 22 04:55 |
| scientes | haha | Mar 22 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Last FM has an API you can use, but it requires your application to have an API key | Mar 22 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | that probably wouldn't fly with the GPL 3 | Mar 22 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | but I believe the requirement is allowed under the GPL 2 | Mar 22 04:56 |
| prurigro | interesting-- and clementine is gpl2? | Mar 22 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, so is most of KDE | Mar 22 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | or the LGPL 2 | Mar 22 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | there is no "or later" | Mar 22 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | so anything you fork off their code is stuck with the GPL 2 and only version 2 | Mar 22 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | but you CAN turn LGPL 2 code into GPL 2 because there's a clause that allows that in the LGPL | Mar 22 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | if code is under "LGPL 2 or later" you can choose to apply the terms of the LGPL 3 to it and from there you can apply the terms of the GPL 3 to derivative works | Mar 22 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | you can use "LGPL 2 or later" to bootstrap your way to GPL 3 if you want | Mar 22 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't mean the original author is necessarily going to be happy you did that | Mar 22 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | but maybe he'll read the license he uses next time | Mar 22 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | [00:54] <_Meowth_> [R] my question was that (not answered) will it only touch the Linux OSes. it doesn't flat out say "HEY, WE'RE FORMATING THE ENTIRE HARDDRIVE, and only installing Fedora" or "Hey we're only touching Fedora and not windows. you're safe" | Mar 22 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | [01:08] <DaemonFC> If the user isn't paying attention to what they're doing they shouldn't be using disk formatting tools | Mar 22 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | [01:09] <DaemonFC> the kind of people that would complain about trashing their Windows after doing something stupid with disk partitioning are the reason McDonalds has to warn you that coffee is hot | Mar 22 05:09 |
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| DaemonFC | [01:12] <DaemonFC> which is why we should just take the warning labels off of everything and let the world sort itself out | Mar 22 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69611-Will-H-264-Codec-Support-Come-To-Fedora-Nope&p=255180#post255180 | Mar 22 05:16 |
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| *DaemonFC is listening to My Name Is Skrillex by Skrillex on My Name Is Skrillex EP [Amarok] | Mar 22 05:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Liberty University is a Fedora mirror | Mar 22 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | they're a bunch of gay bashing theocrats | Mar 22 05:21 |
| *DaemonFC makes them his default mirror so they can pay for his bandwidth for using Fedora | Mar 22 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up? http://identi.ca/url/68247562 | Mar 22 05:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe Wahlprüfsteine #Saarland - #Piraten: Abhängigkeit und restriktive Lizenzen sind "gutes Recht" http://ur1.ca/8recu !fs !gnu #ayc | Mar 22 06:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Iceland starting country-wide migration project to #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/GJb9bg (via @chaosupdates) | Mar 22 06:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote WTF!? Wieso zahlen wir bis zu 36 EUR an die #GEMA wenn wir uns ein #Smartphone kaufen? http://bit.ly/GENHkg | Mar 22 06:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @samtuke 300+ #OpenStandards posters posted today from Manchester. Recipients: Spanish Hospitals, Cota Rican Unis, all sorts! http:// ... | Mar 22 06:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | I need to go buy some mouse traps | Mar 22 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 22 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | I would send Jabba in after it but he's just meow and hiss and run away | Mar 22 06:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @documentfreedom Not yet using our #microbanner to promote #dfd? Time to fix that: http://ur1.ca/8rekw | Mar 22 07:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner RT @samtuke 300+ #OpenStandards posters posted today from Manchester. Recipients: Spanish Hospitals, Cota Rican Unis, all ... | Mar 22 07:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner RT @grote Iceland starting country-wide migration project to #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/GJb9bg (via @chaosupdates) | Mar 22 07:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista 8: The Disaster Starts Now http://ur1.ca/8reqc #vista8 #windows | Mar 22 07:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows http://ur1.ca/8reru #nokia #android #windows #meego | Mar 22 07:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | Audacious works right in Fedora-KDE | Mar 22 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | the GTK port is messed up bad in Kubuntu | Mar 22 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | *GTK 3 | Mar 22 07:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla a Victim of the MPEG-LA Cartel http://ur1.ca/8retx #firefox #swpats | Mar 22 07:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's no technical reason why a KDE browser couldn't hook into Gstreamer | Mar 22 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora resolved that Firefox will be configured with system Gstreamer and it will play whatever codecs the user has installed | Mar 22 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | but that they will not directly provide encumbered codecs | Mar 22 07:48 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: One of the people spreading FUD about WebM and saying Fedora should ship h264 was a Red Hat employee | Mar 22 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, nevermind | Mar 22 07:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Summary: Mozilla demotes principles and surrenders to the conspiracy of software patent holders For Mozilla, trust will http://ur1.ca/8retx | Mar 22 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Summary: Mozilla demotes principles and surrenders to the conspiracy of software patent holders For Mozilla, trust will http://ur1. ... | Mar 22 07:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | someone pasted it in a way that made it look like it was attributed to someone from Red Hat | Mar 22 07:52 |
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| DaemonFC | there's the original post | Mar 22 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | fewt: Are your Cheesecake people spamming Fedora? | Mar 22 07:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] From Novell to Microsoft (With Love): How Microsoft Uses SUSE/Novell to Infiltrate Linux Development http://ur1.ca/8rex5 #suse | Mar 22 08:02 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you're mentioned ^ | Mar 22 08:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92081973 | Mar 22 08:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Mikael (inscius)'s status on Thursday, 22-Mar-12 07:15:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz De Gucht seems to have big issues with democracy and with the population that pays his salary. #racism | Mar 22 08:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For a Speedy Boot, Try Firefox-Based xPUD Linux http://ur1.ca/8rf21 #xPUD #firefox | Mar 22 08:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: For a Speedy Boot, Try Firefox-Based xPUD Linux | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 80.9 KB | Mar 22 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | hmm | Mar 22 08:15 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Crazy Train by Ozzy Osbourne on Blizzard Of Ozz (Expanded Edition) [Amarok] | Mar 22 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gentoo Linux 12 review http://ur1.ca/8rf2l #gentoo #gnu #linux | Mar 22 08:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1444127 | Mar 22 08:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today #Rekonq became my default Web browser, #Konqueror just secondary. #kde | Mar 22 08:23 |
| schestowitz | "Take a look at #Qupzilla if you get the chance. QT based and integrates beautifully with KDE. Lighter, faster and smoother than #Rekonq in my experience. " | Mar 22 08:23 |
| schestowitz | "You need to switch the default theme though. The one it starts with is pretty ugly. After that though, iz shiny. :) " | Mar 22 08:23 |
| schestowitz | ain't choice great :-) | Mar 22 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | Konqueror needs some love | Mar 22 08:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1444951 | Mar 22 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: De Gucht goes rogue again http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/de-gucht-goes-rogue-again/ #acta | Mar 22 08:25 |
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| schestowitz | ""WOW" i knew there are dirty from the start, I just read the article who do these people think there are like really, to disregard there own parliment this world is headed for a revolution the likes we or any have ever seen... " | Mar 22 08:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: naa... | Mar 22 08:25 |
| schestowitz | too late | Mar 22 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm liking KTorrent 4.2 a lot better | Mar 22 08:25 |
| schestowitz | it seems to get non anymore | Mar 22 08:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1444867 | Mar 22 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: AMD Open Sources Radeon HD 7000 Driver http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Open-Sources-Radeon-HD-7000-Driver-259876.shtml #amd #linux #opensource | Mar 22 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | magnet links pop right up with the file list | Mar 22 08:25 |
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| schestowitz | "At least " | Mar 22 08:25 |
| schestowitz | "I'm assuming you meant at last ;) I'm just glad they are sticking to their commitment of actually doing this. " | Mar 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | seemed like older versions lagged for a while before popping up the list | Mar 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The kernel side landed | Mar 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | it beats a kick in the ass but most people would use Catalyst even with that | Mar 22 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | at least until Mesa support lands | Mar 22 08:26 |
| schestowitz | freeom makes the code easier to maintain by others. It's a pracitcal choice, eventually all will be free. | Mar 22 08:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1419440 | Mar 22 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Salix Live KDE 13.37 http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3291 #salix #gnu #linux #kde | Mar 22 08:27 |
| schestowitz | "Salix + XFCE is perfect! " | Mar 22 08:27 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: In relatively little code, they've managed to support nearly every Radeon ever released | Mar 22 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | the HD 7000 series kernel stuff only added a little over 7,000 lines | Mar 22 08:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that can still be a lot | Mar 22 08:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up?" http://ur1.ca/8rf4v I just fell off my chair laughing (via @boingboing) | Mar 22 08:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] the first batch of !gnu !linuxlibre rpms (for 3.3-gnu and 3.2.12-gnu) is now available in freed-ora 15..18 testing repos | Mar 22 08:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | Catalyst bundles average 100 MB or more | Mar 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | and that's compressed | Mar 22 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | I meant to say that the size of the open source stuff compares favorably to Catalyst | Mar 22 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's about a tenth the amount of code and supports more than twice as many cards | Mar 22 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst is probably big mostly because it shares no code with anything that's already on the system | Mar 22 08:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CorePlus 4.4 Screen Shots http://ur1.ca/8rf6l #gnu #linux | Mar 22 08:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CorePlus 4.4 Screen Shots - Screen Shots of CorePlus 4.4 .::. Size~: 29.06 KB | Mar 22 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: AMD can't get their Catalyst driver on Windows to behave either | Mar 22 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | each month I hear of new horror stories from their Windows users | Mar 22 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | I hear this month it caused some nasty regressions in Skyrim | Mar 22 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | apparently 12.3 hoses Star Wars: The Old Republic | Mar 22 08:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CraftStudio, New Real Time Collaborative Game Making Tool for Linux http://ur1.ca/8rf8i #gnu #linux | Mar 22 08:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CraftStudio, New Real Time Collaborative Game Making Tool for Linux ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates .::. Size~: 206.93 KB | Mar 22 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | AMD has a Windows 8 preview driver with WDDM 1.2 support | Mar 22 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | apparently the big improvement to WDDM 1.2 is a task scheduler | Mar 22 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | that can help or hurt | Mar 22 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes you want a "stupid" scheduler that doesn't have a lot of complicated logic, heuristics, etc. because they can fail badly | Mar 22 08:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enforcing the GPL with Judo moves http://ur1.ca/8rf9k #gpl | Mar 22 08:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Enforcing the GPL with Judo moves - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.27 KB | Mar 22 08:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445725 | Mar 22 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mozilla a Victim of the MPEG-LA Cartel http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/mozilla-swpats/ #firefox #swpats | Mar 22 08:55 |
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| schestowitz | We might as well replace html with docx as build web sites with non free codecs. The same empty argument can be used, that both Apple and Microsoft "support" docx handling, so it would be OK for Mozilla to recognize those plugins. ... | Mar 22 08:55 |
| schestowitz | https://plus.google.com/u/0/110953740010395822648/posts/5VQxtSxPq3L | Mar 22 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News Here - Google+ .::. Size~: 86.68 KB | Mar 22 08:55 |
| schestowitz | "Poor results come from a poor understanding of the problem, Ars should be ashamed of themselves. "Apple and Microsoft both support H.264" - this is a misstatement of the problem. Microsoft and Apple refuse to ship free formats and insist on non free alternatives that put everyone else at a disadvantage. They have also tried hard to do the same at w3c which was foolish enough to give them a vote. There is nothing practical or pragmatic | Mar 22 08:56 |
| schestowitz | about playing the codec game in a way that causes free software to lose." | Mar 22 08:56 |
| schestowitz | "Chromium browser and Chrome work with ogg theora today and are available for all platforms, so there already is a universally available, patent and royalty free video format that should be used. It is disingenuous for the Mozilla people to blame Google for their change of policy, but typical of Microsoft's tendency to start "civil wars" between competitors that should be allies. Non free codecs should be ignored by web developers and | Mar 22 08:56 |
| schestowitz | free browsers. " | Mar 22 08:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445792 | Mar 22 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNOME Classic in Ubuntu 12.04: It’s Like Nothing Ever Changed http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/ #gnome #ubuntu | Mar 22 08:57 |
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| schestowitz | "Excellent!" | Mar 22 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, not news | Mar 22 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | fallback desktop = GNOME 2 by stealth has been well known for some time no | Mar 22 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | *now | Mar 22 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's worth noting that GNOME 3 fallback isn't GNOME 2, there are missing features and it uses more memory | Mar 22 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's strictly there for people with crappy GPUs/drivers and will probably be removed once they get the shell working right with llvmpipe | Mar 22 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | but obviously since Ubuntu 12.04 is an LTS, people can use GNOME 3 Fallback undisturbed for the next 5 years if they really want to | Mar 22 09:02 |
| prurigro | yea, fallback gnome 3 is terrible | Mar 22 09:02 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/h8NeV.jpg | Mar 22 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 22 09:03 |
| prurigro | its like they took a screenshot of gnome2 | Mar 22 09:03 |
| prurigro | and made it look like that without any additional functionality | Mar 22 09:03 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: clearly France moved and that town did cover three entire European countries several hundred miles away from where France is now | Mar 22 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | and this is all part of the cheese eating liberal agenda to make Fox News look bad | Mar 22 09:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 22 09:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's New in Linux 3.3? http://ur1.ca/8rfdh #kernel #linux | Mar 22 09:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What's New in Linux 3.3? | Linux.com .::. Size~: 36.4 KB | Mar 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: LOL | Mar 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | it's news for toons | Mar 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | notice that colour | Mar 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | stripes and stars | Mar 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | idiocyR'Us | Mar 22 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | god damn it | Mar 22 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | you order one thing from Starbucks.com | Mar 22 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | and they spam you forever and ignore your unsubscribe requests | Mar 22 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | no, I usually don't do business with them, I won a gift card and didn't feel like selling it for a third of what it was worth on some gift card selling site | Mar 22 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | so I got some coffee | Mar 22 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | which, oddly, didn't taste like it was worth 4 times the price of the coffee I usually drink, but that's what branding gives us | Mar 22 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox lies [IMG] http://ur1.ca/8rfeb | Mar 22 09:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69611-Will-H-264-Codec-Support-Come-To-Fedora-Nope&p=255191#post255191 | Mar 22 09:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Will H.264 Codec Support Come To Fedora? Nope. - Page 4 .::. Size~: 87.4 KB | Mar 22 09:16 |
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| MinceR | the mpeg la trolls are at it again? | Mar 22 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yeah, ever since Mozilla's announcement that they are cheese-eating surrender monkeys, the anti-free software trolls have been thumbing their noses and spamming Fedora's mailing lists and so on | Mar 22 09:18 |
| MinceR | hm, didn't take you long to change your opinion on mozilla :> | Mar 22 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | well, I'm torn on that | Mar 22 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | if the user has the codecs, Firefox should use them | Mar 22 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | but.....it furthers the goal of the MPEG-LA to spread their crap all over the web | Mar 22 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | and puts pressure on users who never would have installed the codecs to install them when their favorite sites don't work without them | Mar 22 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | but...if Firefox doesn't do it and sites break, then users do leave Firefox and start using proprietary malware like IE, Safari, and Chrome | Mar 22 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | if Firefox ships the codecs, they're liable for the MPEG-LA tax which eats into their revenues which could have been spent developing Firefox | Mar 22 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | they found a way around that by using codecs that are already there | Mar 22 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | the user already paid the patent tax in their copy of Windows, OS X, iOS, Android, Windows Phone, or whatever | Mar 22 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | and so Firefox has licensed codecs to work with on most platforms | Mar 22 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | and they can't be held liable for a user installing gstreamer codecs on Linux | Mar 22 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | so they can cover pretty much all their users by just using what's already there | Mar 22 09:24 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 22 09:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU HURD wants Google funding for OS kernel development http://ur1.ca/8rffs #gnu #hurd | Mar 22 09:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | if a user has already installed unlicensed codecs on their system, then they're just as unlicensed whether Firefox taps into them or doesn't | Mar 22 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather that it does than end up needing to use Chrome | Mar 22 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious Google doesn't really back WebM | Mar 22 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | and they have absolutely no intention of dropping MPEG-4 codecs | Mar 22 09:26 |
| MinceR | didn't they say they're taking h.264 support out once? | Mar 22 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that was more than a year ago | Mar 22 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | it hasn't happened | Mar 22 09:26 |
| MinceR | :/ | Mar 22 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | and they haven't said anything about it since | Mar 22 09:26 |
| scientes | MinceR, they did take it out of chromium | Mar 22 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | do the math | Mar 22 09:26 |
| MinceR | scientes: ic | Mar 22 09:27 |
| scientes | youtube is half-usabel with webm only | Mar 22 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | they did no such thing | Mar 22 09:27 |
| scientes | but only on fennec | Mar 22 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium uses whatever codecs you build into its copy of the ffmpeg libraries! | Mar 22 09:27 |
| scientes | cause with firefox they try to force you to have flash, or set the html5 cookie, which i wont do | Mar 22 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | and if you build in MPEG-4 support, it will use it | Mar 22 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | but that doesn't mean you have a patent license | Mar 22 09:27 |
| MinceR | scientes: why not set the html5 cookie? | Mar 22 09:28 |
| scientes | cause i dont give google any persistant cookies | Mar 22 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | Google never went all-in with WebM | Mar 22 09:28 |
| scientes | hell i dump their cookies every request | Mar 22 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | about half of youtube still isn't transcoded | Mar 22 09:28 |
| scientes | and its stupid they cant make it work by default | Mar 22 09:28 |
| scientes | it does if you use their embed code on another site | Mar 22 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | and if they want to put ads in a video, they won't let you use WebM or h264 | Mar 22 09:28 |
| scientes | but they purposefully break it on firefox without flash | Mar 22 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | it must be in Flash or they won't let you watch it | Mar 22 09:29 |
| scientes | cause they are assholes | Mar 22 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | the only reliable way to use Youtube without Flash is with Gnash | Mar 22 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | and even then we're back at the "You're using MPEG-4" problem | Mar 22 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | because, where do you think Gnash is getting its codec support from? | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | thats not a problem | Mar 22 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | the fairy godmother? | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | its FOSS | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | x264 | Mar 22 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's still worse than Firefox linking to gstreamer directly | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | and if you support x264 i think the youtyube html5 will work with all videos | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | or at least 99% | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | and god knows ill take that much of an excuse to purge that horrible flash | Mar 22 09:30 |
| scientes | its a huge privacy leak | Mar 22 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | because now you have this plugin that's full of bugs and loading the same unlicensed gstreamer mpeg codecs you were getting into a twist about Firefox loading | Mar 22 09:31 |
| scientes | fuck that MPEG cartel | Mar 22 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reliable way to use Youtube without using either proprietary or patent violating software | Mar 22 09:31 |
| scientes | thats what i say fuck em | Mar 22 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | none | Mar 22 09:31 |
| scientes | also, use WebM cause its better than x264 | Mar 22 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft makes it easier for itself to claim bogus numbers of 'copies'/'sales' of Vista# http://ur1.ca/8rfh3 | Mar 22 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] European commission uses openideo.com to crowdsource ideas for better web entrepreneurship in Europe. I for one like t... http://b1t.it/a9RL | Mar 22 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Sun is shining, and someone has parked this "beer bike" http://ur1.ca/8rfhe outside my house. Oh the temptation. | Mar 22 09:32 | |
| scientes | VP8 is not a bad codec | Mar 22 09:32 |
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| DaemonFC | scientes: It doesn't matter how good or bad it is if we can't get Google to commit to using it across all of Youtube | Mar 22 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | does it? | Mar 22 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | and Youtube is just one of the problem sites | Mar 22 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | there are dozens | Mar 22 09:32 |
| MinceR | we'll need a better video sharing site anyway | Mar 22 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | yes, we do | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | <MinceR> we'll need a better video sharing site anyway | Mar 22 09:33 |
| MinceR | they get their kicks out of banning accounts repeatedly that did nothing wrong | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | your totally missing the point | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | we need P2P video sharing | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | aka freedombox | Mar 22 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | or letting copyright trolls flag your video and getting it suspended | Mar 22 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | when it's not even their content | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | people need to control their data | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | and host their data | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | and it needs to be content-based, not provider-based | Mar 22 09:33 |
| scientes | using hashes | Mar 22 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | there needs to be a video site that is outside of United States jurisdiction | Mar 22 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | that uses WebM and Ogg Vorbis only | Mar 22 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | and does not cooperate with copyright trolls | Mar 22 09:35 |
| scientes | who cares if its WebM or x264 as long as you arn't in a country theat gives lip-service to the cartels | Mar 22 09:35 |
| scientes | but flash, that is a totally differn't ball-park | Mar 22 09:35 |
| scientes | that shit has to go | Mar 22 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | a question came up like that when Richard Stallman was being interviewed by an Iranian journalist the other day | Mar 22 09:36 |
| scientes | however, if google supported WebM that would be pretty kick-ass | Mar 22 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | he said that since Iran doesn't recognize foreign copyrights and isn't a signatory to the WTO, why shouldn't people there just pirate Windows and use it? | Mar 22 09:36 |
| scientes | BTW, their WebP format sucks balls | Mar 22 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | and there's plenty of reasons why you shouldn't want to use Windows even if you won't get in any trouble for pirating it | Mar 22 09:36 |
| scientes | i don't care | Mar 22 09:37 |
| scientes | there is just no point | Mar 22 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | WebP could use some work | Mar 22 09:37 |
| scientes | as Linux is 10X the OS | Mar 22 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's not unsalvageable | Mar 22 09:37 |
| scientes | which the windows pirated copies actually say, they are like "if you don't like it, use the Tux" | Mar 22 09:37 |
| scientes | also, its totally analagous to Pirates on the high seas | Mar 22 09:38 |
| scientes | =\ | Mar 22 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft attempts to "educate" people that pirated Windows typically comes with malware | Mar 22 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | but so does the retail copy | Mar 22 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | so what's their point? | Mar 22 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 09:38 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phRi80HBIuU | Mar 22 09:42 |
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| MinceR | yarr! | Mar 22 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: He has my vote in the primary election | Mar 22 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice to see him vs. Obama | Mar 22 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'd vote for Ron Paul over Obama if he managed to make it that far | Mar 22 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | probably won't happen | Mar 22 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | most people are too fucking stupid to see what's happening to them | Mar 22 09:46 |
| MinceR | note that paul is a nutcase as well | Mar 22 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: it's still a trade up | Mar 22 09:47 |
| MinceR | but at least he isn't romney or santorum | Mar 22 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | he's an outspoken critic of the Patriot Act and SOPA and all other kinds of bad stuff that I'd rather be rid of | Mar 22 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | and Obama is just making things worse | Mar 22 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | and he really needs to be shown the door | Mar 22 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | but......I'll end up voting for Obama again if he ends up against any of the people running for the Republican nomination besides Ron Paul | Mar 22 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | because they scare me even worse than Obama does at this point | Mar 22 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner RT @samtuke 300+ #OpenStandards posters posted today from Manchester. Recipients: Spanish Hospitals, Cota Rican Unis, all ... | Mar 22 09:48 | |
| DaemonFC | This is what you get when politics is reduced to corporate-funded campaigns, candidates that spout off religious catch phrases like it's some form of Tourette's Syndrome, and of course playing the bigots for all they're worth or promising more handouts for people who would rather live on welfare than find a job | Mar 22 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "Let's end all Free Software projects" http://ur1.ca/8rfmk - thoughtful stuff | Mar 22 09:50 | |
| DaemonFC | things can't go well under that kind of a system | Mar 22 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Let’s end all Free Software “projects” quickly! — Bernhard's Blog .::. Size~: 31.88 KB | Mar 22 09:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/r790h/the_cult_of_apple_loses_against_linuxandroid_in/ | Mar 22 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | and we'll end up with Obama again, or worse | Mar 22 09:50 |
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| schestowitz | "I just don't get it. How is something like this getting downvoted in the r/ANDROID?" | Mar 22 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | Obama did just about a complete 180 from what he was saying during his campaigning | Mar 22 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | if you look at the older videos from his campaign and what he's done as president it's two entirely different stories | Mar 22 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't recall a president that has gone this far back on what he said he'd do when he was a candidate | Mar 22 09:52 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: perhaps the iCult has infested reddit as well | Mar 22 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | tehy all do it | Mar 22 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | but Obama is just a complete serial liar | Mar 22 09:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Ebooks #VAT should be slashed to zero in 2012 budget, say publishers - http://bit.ly/GG0ZwV quite right too: absurd anomaly | Mar 22 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Falkvinge at TEDx Observer - http://bit.ly/GGQKL0 in full flight on the origins of the #PirateParty | Mar 22 09:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ebooks VAT should be slashed to zero in 2012 budget, say publishers | Books | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 167.3 KB | Mar 22 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Falkvinge At TEDx: “Like A Cross Between Churchill, Gandhi, And Mad Max” - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 228.05 KB | Mar 22 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: sites have a way of being rotted from the inside out like that | Mar 22 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | just look at what they did to Slashdot | Mar 22 09:59 |
| MinceR | especially when they have no defense against such | Mar 22 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon Taps #Eucalyptus as Private Cloud Partner - http://rww.to/GFaXwU important point about #openstack (v @swardley) | Mar 22 10:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] SCOTUS issues a fine and balanced decision on the limits of patentability. And guess what the IP terrorist err fanbois... http://b1t.it/a9SP | Mar 22 10:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - SCOTUS issues a fine and balanced decision on the limits of… .::. Size~: 84.7 KB | Mar 22 10:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Saarländische Piraten: Abhängigkeit und restriktive Lizenzen sind “gutes Recht” - http://bit.ly/GLenv0 #Pirateparty drinking too much rum? | Mar 22 10:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Совместный перевод Open Data Handbook на русский язык - http://bit.ly/GF86TZ good cause needs help #opendata #ru | Mar 22 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Совместный перевод Open Data Handbook на русский язык | Иван Бегтин .::. Size~: 56.41 KB | Mar 22 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora on ARM? | Mar 22 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | quick, someone tell them that the video driver situation on ARM devices is really depressing | Mar 22 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much all blobs | Mar 22 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | I switched my Phonon backend to VLC | Mar 22 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | the 0.5 version paired with VLC 2.0 seems to finally work | Mar 22 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | well work without sounding like someone stuck a screwdriver down a garbage disposal | Mar 22 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | progress! | Mar 22 10:30 |
| schestowitz | [09:52] <DaemonFC> but Obama is just a complete serial liar | Mar 22 10:34 |
| schestowitz | the obama camp thanks you for the free promotion | Mar 22 10:34 |
| schestowitz | I remember when obama got elected and IBM's head of Linux was all happym clappy about it | Mar 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | then I left a comment on his blog saying that it's all just a delusion, nothing will change | Mar 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | and he shot me an e-mail getting all sensitive about it | Mar 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | He was like you, DaemonFC | Mar 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | he thought his "change" bollox actually was gonna be real | Mar 22 10:35 |
| schestowitz | guess what? | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | They just change the foot and the show every 4 or 8 years | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | to give you an illusion of choice | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | the businesses interests go undercover this way | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | Obama is not "a liar" | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | He's doing what he's supposed to doi | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | He's an actor | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | Actors act | Mar 22 10:36 |
| schestowitz | they don't lie | Mar 22 10:36 |
| MinceR | politicians do lie, though | Mar 22 10:37 |
| MinceR | all the time. | Mar 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | who for? | Mar 22 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | you can tell | Mar 22 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | their lips are moving | Mar 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | their lips move | Mar 22 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 10:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 22 10:37 |
| schestowitz | lol | Mar 22 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | I do like what Ron Paul said about foreign policy | Mar 22 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Maybe people will like us better if we mind our own business instead of dropping bombs on them" | Mar 22 10:38 |
| schestowitz | and abortion? | Mar 22 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, it just seems so obvious | Mar 22 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.4.6 maintenance release available: http://wp.me/p1byPE-gj !libo !tdf | Mar 22 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Latest news from the Megaupload Soap Opera: NZ court allows Kim Schmitz AKA Dotcom AKA Kimvestor to spend 60k NZ$ per ... http://b1t.it/a9TH | Mar 22 10:38 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not bombs | Mar 22 10:38 |
| schestowitz | the US drops democracy | Mar 22 10:38 |
| schestowitz | in shells\ | Mar 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | it has good intentions | Mar 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | it just doesn't know how to express itself well | Mar 22 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | democracy in fuel air form | Mar 22 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | it rains down on you | Mar 22 10:39 |
| MinceR | not nuclear democracy any more :/ | Mar 22 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | wide dispersal democracy | Mar 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | for now... ^_^ | Mar 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | freedom is not free | Mar 22 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | tactical bunker buster democracy | Mar 22 10:39 |
| MinceR | they have trade agreements now, though | Mar 22 10:39 |
| schestowitz | globalisation | Mar 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | what's in it for us, people? | Mar 22 10:40 |
| MinceR | and threatening foreign government officials to get what they want | Mar 22 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Would you prefer 500 pound freedom or 1,000 pound freedom? | Mar 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | 2 megaton freedom | Mar 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | clustered | Mar 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz | voting with our feet | Mar 22 10:41 |
| schestowitz | if they haven't been blown off | Mar 22 10:41 |
| schestowitz | !google waltzing matilda | Mar 22 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Waltzing Matilda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltzing_Matilda | Mar 22 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Waltzing Matilda - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DINdjRCNcZj0 | Mar 22 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Roger Clarke's Waltzing Matilda Home-Page | http://www.rogerclarke.com/WM/ | Mar 22 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Waltzing Matilda | http://tiredtwang.blogspot.com/ | Mar 22 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | from MinceR's description, Hungary's government is based on despotism and fond memories of the Soviet Union | Mar 22 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | but they don't have oil so they'll never be "rescued" by the US | Mar 22 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | poor MinceR | Mar 22 10:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://identi.ca/notice/92085137 | Mar 22 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Thursday, 22-Mar-12 10:01:39 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz !GNU #HURD wants Google funding for OS kernel development http://ur1.ca/8rffs !hurd ☝ Grrrrreeeaat focus! | Mar 22 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | Ya HURD?? | Mar 22 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: vote with your thumbprint and then have your hand cut off by the Taliban for it | Mar 22 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 22 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | Google isn't going to fund anything they can't sponge off of later | Mar 22 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | Hurd is under the GPL 3 so I doubt Google wants to help them at all | Mar 22 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's not that I wouldn't use the Hurd so much as the Hurd is unusable on my hardware | Mar 22 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | (and most hardware) | Mar 22 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | but there's no huge burning need for something to replace Linux | Mar 22 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | The Hurd would need.....mostly a lot of drivers that it currently doesn't have | Mar 22 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | and an XFS file system server would be freaking awesome | Mar 22 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | Ext 2? REALLY? | Mar 22 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to use Ext2 on my hard disk | Mar 22 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | it took forever to run fsck on a disk that had 20 times less space than the one I use now | Mar 22 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | among its other issues | Mar 22 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | a file system without a journal is just maddeningly unhelpful the first time the system goes down | Mar 22 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | you'd be waiting for a couple of HOURS for Hurd to run a filesystem check when you brought it back up | Mar 22 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | and the way I understand it, Hurd is not exactly reliable | Mar 22 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | one of its developers who claimed to actually use it on his main system said it crashed on him a few times a day | Mar 22 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has kernel panicked on me a few times, in the last several years | Mar 22 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jakublipinski: Dowcip dnia (warszawski): Po zamknięciu stacji Świętokrzyska mamy dwie linie metra :) | Mar 22 10:52 | |
| DaemonFC | (usually because I was running something I hacked together that you'd never actually want to use in a production system) | Mar 22 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | running fsck on XFS or Ext4 takes a few seconds, if that | Mar 22 10:53 |
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| DaemonFC | trying to run fsck on Ext2 makes NTFS chkdsk seem positively wonderful | Mar 22 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I was shocked when Google announced like, a little over a year ago that they were still using Ext2 in production, in late 2010 | Mar 22 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | and that they were just now getting ready to migrate to Ext4 | Mar 22 10:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is there such a thing as cli !Google Reader. I think I need the news faster. I'm short of time :) | Mar 22 10:55 | |
| DaemonFC | big companies do strange things with computers | Mar 22 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | unnatural things | Mar 22 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | backwards things | Mar 22 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | things that are likely to cause lots of downtime and overtime for their IT people because they're scared to death of upgrades that make things work better | Mar 22 10:56 |
| schestowitz | There's risk involved | Mar 22 10:57 |
| schestowitz | what you do in your home is different | Mar 22 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why they weren't already using Ext3 at least | Mar 22 10:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think Google made mods to filesystems | Mar 22 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | "upgrading" just involves mounting an Ext2 system as Ext3 | Mar 22 10:58 |
| schestowitz | to make them easy toi recover from errors and distribute in DCs | Mar 22 10:58 |
| schestowitz | I think they wrote some papers about it | Mar 22 10:58 |
| schestowitz | maybe there's stuff they latch onto ext2 | Mar 22 10:58 |
| schestowitz | you never know.. | Mar 22 10:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Совместный перевод Open Data Handbook на русский язык - http://bit.ly/GF86TZ good cause needs help #opendata #ru | Mar 22 10:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Gov't: Not In The Public Interest For The Public To Be Interested In Secret Anti-#Piracy Negotiations - http://bit.ly/GGVznB | Mar 22 10:58 | |
| schestowitz | they hired some kernel hackers like Love | Mar 22 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Совместный перевод Open Data Handbook на русский язык | Иван Бегтин .::. Size~: 56.41 KB | Mar 22 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Austrailian Gov't: Not In The Public Interest For The Public To Be Interested In Secret Anti-Piracy Negotiations | Techdirt .::. Size~: 35.88 KB | Mar 22 10:58 |
| schestowitz | they have lots of in-house developed stuff, proprietary | Mar 22 10:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe that is only compatible with ext2 | Mar 22 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | there's a pleasant thought | Mar 22 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] καλημερα καλημέρα.. ο καιρός οτι πρεπει για φραπέδες εδω σήμερα :) | Mar 22 11:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] just on time για @cocobilly ξυπνησα.. | Mar 22 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Demand a robust lobbying register - http://bit.ly/GL8xOe one with teeth #uk | Mar 22 11:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Fair-gehandelte Bananen und Freie Software !fs: Ein Imperativ für Christen" http://ur1.ca/8rg73 | Mar 22 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Auf dem Weg zum ersten Phone Liberation Workshop. #WiFi Tethering mit Android funktioniert tadellos im #ICE :) http://ur1.ca/8f7fw | Mar 22 11:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fair-gehandelte Bananen und Freie Software: Ein Imperativ für Christen « TheoNet.de .::. Size~: 85.3 KB | Mar 22 11:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Want to #Handcuff a Politician? Look at #dfd page and tell us who needs education about #openstandards : http://ur1.ca/8rgbw !fsfe !gnu !fs | Mar 22 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazon Web Services fastest in cloud data transfer speed test - CIO UK http://ping.fm/wHzuc | Mar 22 11:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] #Wahlprüfsteine der #FSFE für das #Saarland - Leider nur wenige deutliche Aussagen zu #FreierSoftware: http://ur1.ca/8rgia !fsfe !fs !gnu | Mar 22 11:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate drones? An alternative ... - http://bit.ly/GGENOa nice: "I believe the Pirate Bay should be looking down at the sewers" | Mar 22 11:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pirate LOSS? An alternative ... - Charlie's Diary .::. Size~: 63.66 KB | Mar 22 11:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] *BLAM* mind blown. | Mar 22 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe #Wahlprüfsteine der #FSFE für das #Saarland - Leider nur wenige deutliche Aussagen zu #FreierSoftware: http://ur1.ca/8rgia !fsf ... | Mar 22 11:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Actually, I think @rebeccablack is a pretty good bot. A database is nice but hard for us to make work. | Mar 22 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] People should get beat up for stating their beliefs. http://identi.ca/url/68255422 | Mar 22 11:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Iceland: Haven of Openness? - http://bit.ly/GK2AOZ first the #IMMI, now this #opensource move for government | Mar 22 11:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1440060 | Mar 22 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tough time for #mozilla - just lost major talent: http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/mozilla-web-platform-chief-chris-blizzard-exits-startup/2012-03-19 (Mozilla web platform chief Chris Blizzard exits for startup) | Mar 22 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | "Yes, and his heart remains a lot with us, but even internally, he was never satisfied in the same position for too long and had to try new things every now and then, now he's doing that on a different payroll - like some others that took on new jobs recently, he'll stay around in the community, though. That's the good thing about being open. :) That said, I know people like him wouldn't take on another job if they weren't 100% sure | Mar 22 11:48 |
| schestowitz | that Mozilla would do well even without them on the payroll. " | Mar 22 11:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is it only me or is the "unread counter" of google+ behaving truly non-deterministic for others too? It shows some num... http://b1t.it/a9VT | Mar 22 11:48 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445725 "Both Apple and Microsoft support HTML fine as well, though. They don't support any patent-free video codec in <video> though." | Mar 22 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mozilla a Victim of the MPEG-LA Cartel http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/mozilla-swpats/ #firefox #swpats | Mar 22 11:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Christine Assange interview | Soundcloud http://t.co/Uqyby6bu | Mar 22 11:50 | |
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| schestowitz | recordmydesktop coredumped on me recently | Mar 22 11:52 |
| schestowitz | overran some limits | Mar 22 11:52 |
| schestowitz | and stole like 10gb of space | Mar 22 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | I made a couple edits to the VLC article on Wikipedia | Mar 22 11:52 |
| schestowitz | until the disk (root partition) ran out of space and went mad | Mar 22 11:52 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well done for you | Mar 22 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | corrected the name of the LGPL to "Lesser General Public License" | Mar 22 11:53 |
| schestowitz | did you spread hate there like you always do? | Mar 22 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | mentioned that Phonon can use libvlc | Mar 22 11:53 |
| schestowitz | whar does it use by default? | Mar 22 11:53 |
| schestowitz | xine/gstreamer/other? | Mar 22 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | the "done thing" seems to be Gstreamer | Mar 22 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | used to be Xine | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | ok | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I never change the defaults | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | unless i beg for trouble | Mar 22 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | but that backend is unmaintained now | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I once did change some stuff | Mar 22 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | VLC and Gstreamer are the ones that are actively developed | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | and then all the videos had weird colours | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | some nvidia lameness | Mar 22 11:54 |
| schestowitz | vlc is now targtting gadgets | Mar 22 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | the blob strikes again | Mar 22 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyRpvgm03g | Mar 22 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Blob (1958) - Theatrical Trailer - YouTube .::. Size~: 130.04 KB | Mar 22 11:55 |
| MinceR | 114237 <+DaemonFC> from MinceR's description, Hungary's government is based on despotism and fond memories of the Soviet Union | Mar 22 11:59 |
| MinceR | that's pretty accurate | Mar 22 11:59 |
| MinceR | though there's also fond memories of previous fascist/nazi dictatorships, and the current government and their supporters are more honest about that | Mar 22 12:00 |
| MinceR | there isn't a lot of difference between the two kinds anyway | Mar 22 12:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: google _could_ use hurd -- on their servers. | Mar 22 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | if they want them to crash and perform poorly | Mar 22 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | if at all | Mar 22 12:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @anwaribrahim: Blog: ‘Cowardly’ Najib Uses RPK Crutch to Catch Anwar in 3-Cornered Debate: Malaysia Chronicle By Maria Begu... http:/ ... | Mar 22 12:02 | |
| *DaemonFC tweaked the Wikipedia article on binary blobs | Mar 22 12:02 | |
| MinceR | they could eventually achieve higher availability with it | Mar 22 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Binary_blob&diff=483350928&oldid=483162326 | Mar 22 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Binary blob - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 67.71 KB | Mar 22 12:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I've just made 1 kg of macaroni | Mar 22 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | after how many billions of dollars invested into developing it and letting Richard Stallman run the project as a dictator? | Mar 22 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Pat Roberton sex it's a "black thing" | Mar 22 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | See also; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEmacs | Mar 22 12:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: XEmacs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 49.26 KB | Mar 22 12:04 |
| MinceR | yawn | Mar 22 12:04 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC is in anti-free software troll mode again | Mar 22 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Mar 22 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't care for Richard Stallman and how he mistreats people | Mar 22 12:05 |
| schestowitz | nope | Mar 22 12:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner RT @fsfe #Wahlprüfsteine der #FSFE für das #Saarland - Leider nur wenige deutliche Aussagen zu #FreierSoftware: http://ur1 ... | Mar 22 12:05 | |
| DaemonFC | and abuses contributors | Mar 22 12:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: one day Orban will invade Russian to restore communism | Mar 22 12:06 |
| MinceR | unlikely | Mar 22 12:06 |
| MinceR | hungarian economy is too weak to support such an invasion, and it's only going downhill from here | Mar 22 12:07 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, Orban converts YOU | Mar 22 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | XEmacs was never intended to be a fork, Lucid lost tons of money developing it while the FSF mismanaged everything and harangued the Lucid contributors and eventually they went out of business | Mar 22 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | though the last bit probably can't be blamed on the FSF and Richard Stallman | Mar 22 12:07 |
| schestowitz | [12:07] <MinceR> hungarian economy is too weak to support such an invasion, and it's only going downhill from here | Mar 22 12:07 |
| schestowitz | that's why we have faith schools | Mar 22 12:07 |
| schestowitz | all you need is faith | Mar 22 12:07 |
| schestowitz | !google governor perry prayer | Mar 22 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Religious Freedom Group Sues Perry Over Planned All-Day Prayer ... | http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/13/religious-freedom-group-sues-gov-perry-over-planned-all-day-prayer-event/ | Mar 22 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rick Perry Prayer Rally: Texas Governor Puts Potential 2012 ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/06/rick-perry-prayer-rally-2012-spotlight_n_920074.html | Mar 22 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Evangelicals gather for Gov. Perry's day of prayer - The Washington ... | http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/evangelicals-gather-for-gov-perrys-day-of-prayer/2011/08/06/gIQAg5UjyI_story.html | Mar 22 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Chris Matthews On Those Sponsoring Gov. Perry's Prayer - Mediaite | http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-wonders-about-those-sponsoring-gov-perrys-prayer-rally-what-do-you-make-of-that-wingnut/ | Mar 22 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | Richard Stallman doesn't give interviews, he gives filibusters | Mar 22 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | each and every interview is an exact copy of the last one | Mar 22 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | and he brushes off every question asked of him and goes off on a tangent | Mar 22 12:08 |
| schestowitz | "Dear lordy, buy thy bonds to raise our worth" | Mar 22 12:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: the church lets you buy shares in god | Mar 22 12:09 |
| schestowitz | it's like a pension, only you get paid AFTER death | Mar 22 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | so it's like Social Security only with a concrete plan to avoid paying everyone | Mar 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | "god wil pay you back, for you paid him through us... it's actually bargain" | Mar 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Pension for eternity (in haven) | Mar 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | can't put a price on THAT | Mar 22 12:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1444000 | Mar 22 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 22 12:11 |
| schestowitz | "it's an add-on for your firefox that makes you navigate with https on websites. In other words, it encrypts all the communications of your browser. " | Mar 22 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with most of what the FSF does, I admire a lot of what they've accomplished, but I think sometimes they go a bit far | Mar 22 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | this anti-firmware crusade is a farce | Mar 22 12:11 |
| schestowitz | "I agree [..] but I" | Mar 22 12:12 |
| schestowitz | I smell a bu[t] troll | Mar 22 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | no, when you consider what device firmware really is, you can't really compare it to a device driver or a kernel module | Mar 22 12:12 |
| schestowitz | "I have gay employees, but.." | Mar 22 12:12 |
| schestowitz | "I tried Linux, but.." | Mar 22 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | or even a program that runs in the kernel or userspace | Mar 22 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | because they aren't | Mar 22 12:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: the FSF aims high | Mar 22 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's a stretch even defining them as software | Mar 22 12:13 |
| schestowitz | to get results | Mar 22 12:13 |
| schestowitz | if you aim low, you don't get many results | Mar 22 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Snake charmers unite at PyCon 2012 http://red.ht/GMuXxm #python #opensource | Mar 22 12:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Snake charmers unite at PyCon 2012 | opensource.com .::. Size~: 51.55 KB | Mar 22 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | what do they do? they get downloaded onto a device and they initialize said device | Mar 22 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | the only kernel interaction they have is when the kernel "picks them up and places them onto the device" | Mar 22 12:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC, the butt troll? | Mar 22 12:14 |
| schestowitz | moderation is for the feeble | Mar 22 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | the result is no different than if the firmware was on a ROM on the hardware itself | Mar 22 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | except that with loadable firmware, the manufacturer can fix bugs, and if it's on a ROM, they can't | Mar 22 12:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC's point here is that nobody but the manufacturer should be allowed to fix bugs | Mar 22 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | it would be ideal if they released the source to their firmware, "but" it can be like a frontal assault on a machine gun nest simply to get them to allow you to redistribute their binary firmware | Mar 22 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't feel like standing around with my dick in my hand while my computer does nothing except hum and use electricity | Mar 22 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | because that wouldn't be a good use of my money | Mar 22 12:16 |
| MinceR | too much information | Mar 22 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | "but" RMS seems to think it's OK to suggest we should all use PCs that don't work | Mar 22 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | as evidenced by the crippleware they recommend | Mar 22 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | "We removed several hundred firmwares, now there's almost no chance your PC will even boot up!" | Mar 22 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | YAY, all this free software I can't use because my computer won't boot! | Mar 22 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's probably a good thing they don't control what kernel I use | Mar 22 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | because then I'd have to use Windows | Mar 22 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's true, even though it probably sounds trollish | Mar 22 12:19 |
| MinceR | it's trollish and you're making even less sense than before | Mar 22 12:19 |
| MinceR | if they controlled what kernel you use, you'd be using linux-libre or gnu mach | Mar 22 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | they would rather piss all over the last 1% and ruin everything than admit that your system is only 99% free | Mar 22 12:19 |
| MinceR | they're not the ones here who are unwilling to admit something | Mar 22 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | how do I use something that can't access my hardware because they refuse to ship working firmware? | Mar 22 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's like saying you can have a car but no gasoline for it | Mar 22 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | so it's useless | Mar 22 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | yay brick! | Mar 22 12:20 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of cars that are useful without gasoline | Mar 22 12:21 |
| MinceR | diesel cars, electric cars, fuel cell cars | Mar 22 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just load the Hurd and then set my computer over there as a door prop | Mar 22 12:21 |
| MinceR | LPG cars, CNG cars | Mar 22 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | because that's the only good it will do me with the Hurd on it | Mar 22 12:21 |
| MinceR | cars that run on ethanol | Mar 22 12:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Guter Artikel! Die Zeit über #Urheberrecht: Lernt zu teilen! Bevor es zu spät ist http://bit.ly/GOMt4C | Mar 22 12:22 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if the government subsidizes it | Mar 22 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Urheberrecht: Lernt zu teilen! Bevor es zu spät ist | Kultur | ZEIT ONLINE .::. Size~: 100.83 KB | Mar 22 12:22 |
| MinceR | it's independent of subsidy | Mar 22 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | so that you think it's cost effective while you're paying more taxes | Mar 22 12:22 |
| MinceR | it's physics and chemistry | Mar 22 12:22 |
| MinceR | i thought you have heard of those... | Mar 22 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | they already had this sham going MinceR | Mar 22 12:22 |
| prurigro | I think the point is that there is a distinction between 100% free and not that they attempt to reach, but like vegans and vegetarians, I'm sure they don't consider those with a tiny bit of tainted code an enemy | Mar 22 12:22 |
| MinceR | notice that i had not mentioned cost effectiveness | Mar 22 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't until this year that they yanked the subsidies | Mar 22 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | and ethanol became so expensive that stations stopped providing it | Mar 22 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather that every device manufacturer turned over their firmware source code | Mar 22 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's also not going to happen | Mar 22 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | so there's no point in my getting worked up about it | Mar 22 12:23 |
| prurigro | and RMS has one of the only laptops that ever existed with 100% free hardware I hear? | Mar 22 12:24 |
| prurigro | compared to him, everyone's tainted | Mar 22 12:24 |
| MinceR | yes | Mar 22 12:24 |
| prurigro | :) | Mar 22 12:24 |
| MinceR | well, actually i think it was just 100% free software and firmware | Mar 22 12:24 |
| MinceR | not free hardware | Mar 22 12:24 |
| prurigro | oh no? | Mar 22 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | they aren't easy to buy here | Mar 22 12:24 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if their CPU has its designs published under a free hardware license or such | Mar 22 12:25 |
| prurigro | I thought 100% free firmware was easier to get-- though maybe not so much in laptop form | Mar 22 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | you'll spend more in shipping and taxes and customs fees than you will on that computer | Mar 22 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | I checked into it for kicks once | Mar 22 12:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: freedom is not about price | Mar 22 12:25 |
| MinceR | that said, it's not available for sale in hungary | Mar 22 12:25 |
| prurigro | its true, mcdonalds is one of the cheapest meals, apparently | Mar 22 12:25 |
| MinceR | and if one were to ship it in, the postal service would probably steal it | Mar 22 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | the only way for me to buy one of those damned things would be from a reseller in the EU which means I'd have to pay an exorbitant VAT to a government I don't even live under | Mar 22 12:25 |
| prurigro | thanks to the government subsidizing it | Mar 22 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | and then I'd have to turn around and pay tax to my government once it got here | Mar 22 12:26 |
| MinceR | what, government subsidizes mcdonald's? what for? | Mar 22 12:26 |
| prurigro | not directly | Mar 22 12:26 |
| prurigro | but they pay their labourers less than minimum, pay less than cost for food from vendors etc | Mar 22 12:26 |
| MinceR | what has the government got to do with that? | Mar 22 12:26 |
| prurigro | and then the government subsidizes the companies that sold them the food, and the labourers so they aren't on the streets | Mar 22 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I'll stick to cheap commodity x86 crap and suffer like everyone else does | Mar 22 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | at least it works | Mar 22 12:27 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 22 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | usually | Mar 22 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes you have to kick it | Mar 22 12:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i know you are insistent on suffering | Mar 22 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | but the point is it's cheap and widely available | Mar 22 12:27 |
| prurigro | mcdonalds and walmar are apparently two of the worst for your tax money reducing their prices | Mar 22 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: They pay their employees so little that they all qualify for government welfare programs | Mar 22 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | which raise your taxes | Mar 22 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | so you really saved nothing in the end | Mar 22 12:28 |
| prurigro | if free is reasonable available and does what I need, I'll always choose free | Mar 22 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart and fast food are a drag on the economy | Mar 22 12:28 |
| prurigro | and word, if you didn't buy mcdonalds, on that note, you've actually lost money | Mar 22 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | and are heavily subsidized by tax money | Mar 22 12:28 |
| prurigro | yea | Mar 22 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | (as they often evade taxation themselves) | Mar 22 12:28 |
| prurigro | especially those companies that supply them | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | and especially in the US | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | hence mcdonalds in the US being like half the price it is in canada | Mar 22 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, since they put dog food in their hamburgers..... | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | since minimum wage is only $3 below the poverty line | Mar 22 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | literally, dog food | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | up here | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | instead of like 8/h down there | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | and haha | Mar 22 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, that might not even be cow | Mar 22 12:29 |
| prurigro | they also use chicken feathers to thicken their shakes | Mar 22 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | it could be ground up horse | Mar 22 12:29 |
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| MinceR | isn't horse more expensive than beef? | Mar 22 12:30 |
| prurigro | my dad's friend is allergic to chickens and was surprised to find herself reacting to one | Mar 22 12:30 |
| prurigro | lol yea, I wouldn't expect horse | Mar 22 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: when the horse gets old and sick | Mar 22 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | you shoot it and sell its parts to the glue factory | Mar 22 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | and McDonalds | Mar 22 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | and the dog food companies | Mar 22 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | not necessarily in that order | Mar 22 12:31 |
| prurigro | there aren't enough for it to make sense for them to have a policy about adding it | Mar 22 12:31 |
| prurigro | and mcdonalds functions based on policy | Mar 22 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's nasty | Mar 22 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | naaaasty | Mar 22 12:31 |
| prurigro | whenever pork prices drop below a particular price, the mcrib appears | Mar 22 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's actual pork in that? | Mar 22 12:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek I don't know, that could be dangerous I guess. Do you have the mails backed up? Obviously 4.8 has plenty of fixes & better migration | Mar 22 12:32 | |
| prurigro | apparently so lol | Mar 22 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was tire rubber that had failed road safety tests | Mar 22 12:32 |
| prurigro | lol | Mar 22 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | slathered in barbecue sauce | Mar 22 12:32 |
| prurigro | I've never tried one to comment on the... err- toughness | Mar 22 12:32 |
| MinceR | strange | Mar 22 12:32 |
| prurigro | they also own a company called 100% beef | Mar 22 12:32 |
| MinceR | you're not alleging that it's not real barbecue sauce? | Mar 22 12:32 |
| MinceR | there must be something wrong with you | Mar 22 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | well, high fructose corn syrup with food coloring and a bunch of shit I can't pronounce | Mar 22 12:32 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 22 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's a barbecue sauce as it gets, isn't it? | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | ahh the corn industry | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | I can't drink american softdrinks | Mar 22 12:33 |
| MinceR | not exactly, afaik | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | they taste like sticky syrope | Mar 22 12:33 |
| MinceR | prurigro: ew, it's... sweet! | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | canadian ones are made with sugar | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | which is also sweet | Mar 22 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | don't eat at McDonalds | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | but a different kind of sweet | Mar 22 12:33 |
| prurigro | my tongue is pretty particular about fake-sweetness | Mar 22 12:34 |
| prurigro | aspertame actually tastes like negative sweetness | Mar 22 12:34 |
| MinceR | it's fake if there's no bond between the glucose and the fructose? :> | Mar 22 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | I mentioned this the other day, the last time I ate at McDonalds was because I was transferring buses at the Indianapolis greyhound terminal | Mar 22 12:34 |
| prurigro | if that makes sense | Mar 22 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | and it was either that or something out of a vending machine | Mar 22 12:34 |
| prurigro | MinceR, well its not fake in this case, but it's slightly sweeter and slightly thicker/stickier | Mar 22 12:35 |
| prurigro | M&Ms end up tasting weird for it too | Mar 22 12:35 |
| MinceR | the amylase in your saliva breaks that bond down quickly :> | Mar 22 12:35 |
| prurigro | apparently high fructose corn syrope has appox the same amount of calories as sugar, but doesn't cause people consuming it to feel full as quickly | Mar 22 12:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445725 | Mar 22 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mozilla a Victim of the MPEG-LA Cartel http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/mozilla-swpats/ #firefox #swpats | Mar 22 12:36 |
| prurigro | so there must be some difference | Mar 22 12:36 |
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| prurigro | perhaps 80% of bonds are broken to sugar and the remaining stuff makes the change in flavour and full feeling? | Mar 22 12:37 |
| MinceR | HFCS is 55% fructose, 45% glucose | Mar 22 12:37 |
| MinceR | iirc | Mar 22 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | and 1% other | Mar 22 12:38 |
| prurigro | that's what it contains, but I mean, you can have magnesium citrate and magnesium chloride | Mar 22 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A long time Microsoft defender is looking for redemption » "Windows 8 may drive me to Linux" http://goo.gl/LwrTn | Mar 22 12:38 | |
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| prurigro | both are magnesium, both have the same effects, but one is absorbed slightly better than the other | Mar 22 12:38 |
| MinceR | and it is unlikely to affect the "full feeling" since the bonds would break down in your mouth anyway, afaik | Mar 22 12:39 |
| prurigro | 100% of bonds? | Mar 22 12:39 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 22 12:39 |
| prurigro | I could see the full feeling being linked completely to the tongue | Mar 22 12:39 |
| prurigro | say you tasted some of the non broken bonds before they were broken down and swallowed, instead of tasting nothing but already broken ones | Mar 22 12:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] LibreOffice and UK Government http://ping.fm/ilcKt | Mar 22 12:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice and UK Government « Liberal Murmurs .::. Size~: 12.39 KB | Mar 22 12:40 |
| prurigro | you might get a slightly reduced reward response, which would reduce the dopaminergic end of feeling 'full' | Mar 22 12:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LibreOffice and UK Government « Liberal Murmurs http://goo.gl/zKu0r | Mar 22 12:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] All of Iceland's public administrations moving towards !opensource | Joinup http://goo.gl/qYyF7 | Mar 22 12:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: All of Iceland's public administrations moving towards open source | Joinup .::. Size~: 26.49 KB | Mar 22 12:43 |
| prurigro | MinceR, the reason is speculation of course, but there is a difference for whatever reason | Mar 22 12:44 |
| prurigro | I can't remember are you from the US? | Mar 22 12:44 |
| MinceR | i'm from hungary | Mar 22 12:44 |
| MinceR | most soft drinks seem to use either HFCS or sucrose+artificial sweeteners | Mar 22 12:45 |
| prurigro | yea, I figured- especially after commenting on how they didn't ship laptops there | Mar 22 12:45 |
| prurigro | diet = sucrose? | Mar 22 12:45 |
| MinceR | but i can't really tell the difference between HFCS and sucrose | Mar 22 12:45 |
| MinceR | no | Mar 22 12:45 |
| prurigro | err, I'm thinking sucralose | Mar 22 12:45 |
| prurigro | word | Mar 22 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | I like sucralose a lot better than aspartame | Mar 22 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | aspartame breaks down at high temperatures | Mar 22 12:46 |
| prurigro | haha, aspartame is like drinking tonic water, but more bitter | Mar 22 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | makes your coffee taste bitter instead of sweet | Mar 22 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Opensource: contributing makes you happy | @jipiboily / Jean-Philippe Boily http://goo.gl/lBBg7 | Mar 22 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @MetalSamurai If publishers want equivalence, then perhaps they should allow eBooks to be *property* & not a restrictive, unfair licence. | Mar 22 12:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source: contributing makes you happy | @jipiboily / Jean-Philippe Boily .::. Size~: 10.46 KB | Mar 22 12:47 |
| MinceR | i've found that tea just doesn't work with artificial sweeteners | Mar 22 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | you definitely can't bake with it | Mar 22 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | sucralose doesn't have that problem | Mar 22 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | and it tastes like sugar | Mar 22 12:47 |
| prurigro | sucralose actually tastes sweet to me, but it tastes more like the HFC sweet + a few points of sweetness | Mar 22 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | you can bake with it but you want the stuff that is bulked up with maltodextrin to bake with | Mar 22 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Who cares how cheap aspartame is if it makes your coffee taste like shit? | Mar 22 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | if we're going to do that, I'll just save all my money and drink the coffee with nothing in it | Mar 22 12:48 |
| prurigro | I honestly believe that depending on how your tongue works, aspartame can taste sweet or extremely bitter | Mar 22 12:48 |
| prurigro | which is the one in sweet n' low again? I heard the other day that one can cause testicular atrophy/shrinking | Mar 22 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: The one and only thing I've managed to get away with aspartame in that actually worked out OK.... | Mar 22 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | iced tea | Mar 22 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's fine to use in iced tea | Mar 22 12:49 |
| prurigro | get out | Mar 22 12:49 |
| prurigro | I guess you kinda expect tea to taste bitter | Mar 22 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, just make sure you add it AFTER the tea is cold | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | but don't you find there's like a 30 second aftertaste of pure horror after anything containing aspartame? | Mar 22 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | if you add it while it's hot it would break down and just turn extremely bitter | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | or does it fix that too? | Mar 22 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think the bitterness of the tea itself helps mask aspartame | Mar 22 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | some diet drinks get away with that too | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | does it actually help the tea? | Mar 22 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | diet mountain dew and diet dr pepper | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | actually wait | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | you're from the US | Mar 22 12:50 |
| prurigro | you guys have wacky iced tea | Mar 22 12:51 |
| prurigro | I always have to catch myself before ordering it when I go down there | Mar 22 12:51 |
| MinceR | sweet tea? i'd like to try that someday | Mar 22 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | there's always the Long Island Iced Tea | Mar 22 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | no tea in it whatsoever | Mar 22 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 12:51 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 22 12:51 |
| prurigro | looks like tea tho | Mar 22 12:51 |
| prurigro | all our iced tea in canada is exceedingly sweet | Mar 22 12:51 |
| fewt | oooh Long Island Iced Tea | Mar 22 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | my grandmother almost ordered one | Mar 22 12:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] «Fragmento de OVNI» gigante cai dos céus na Sibéria | Mundo | Diário Digital http://goo.gl/nvPr3 #xfiles ;) | Mar 22 12:52 | |
| prurigro | nestea is probably the least sweet | Mar 22 12:52 |
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| DaemonFC | I told my mom she shouldn't have stopped her | Mar 22 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | it might have mellowed her out for the rest of the day | Mar 22 12:52 |
| prurigro | lol, why would it be bad for your grandma to order a single drink? | Mar 22 12:52 |
| prurigro | if anything it'd thin her blood and reduce the risk of strike | Mar 22 12:52 |
| prurigro | stroke* | Mar 22 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | she's a prohibitionist | Mar 22 12:52 |
| prurigro | improve kidney function | Mar 22 12:52 |
| MinceR | "go back to work!" | Mar 22 12:52 |
| prurigro | prevent bladder infection | Mar 22 12:53 |
| prurigro | improve cognition | Mar 22 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | she gets a look on her face whenever we go out to eat, like it'll be someone's birthday | Mar 22 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'll order a huge glass of beer | Mar 22 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | she's over there giving me the eye | Mar 22 12:53 |
| prurigro | your mom? | Mar 22 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 12:53 |
| prurigro | hahaha | Mar 22 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | no, grandma | Mar 22 12:53 |
| prurigro | ohh man haha | Mar 22 12:53 |
| prurigro | even funnier | Mar 22 12:53 |
| prurigro | you should sneak her some | Mar 22 12:54 |
| prurigro | pour a little into a glass she can hide | Mar 22 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's my birthday, I'm going to drink a beer | Mar 22 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | I won't make anyone else drink my beer | Mar 22 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | I promise | Mar 22 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 12:54 |
| prurigro | lol | Mar 22 12:54 |
| prurigro | how about a pitcher | Mar 22 12:54 |
| prurigro | :) | Mar 22 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | MINE!!! | Mar 22 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see a problem with drinking beer now and then | Mar 22 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | she seems to think anyone who has a beer is an alcoholic | Mar 22 12:55 |
| prurigro | lol | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | she sounds like an extremist | Mar 22 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's just the generation she's from or something | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | how old is she?! | Mar 22 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | 82 I think | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | if she was born after the 50s, she should be a pot smoking hippie | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | ohh, wait | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | your grandma disagrees with it? I thought she wanted some | Mar 22 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 22 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | and that it was your mom who was hating? | Mar 22 12:56 |
| prurigro | just in that case I guess | Mar 22 12:57 |
| *prurigro gives voice to schestowitz | Mar 22 12:57 | |
| DaemonFC | her contribution to the alcoholic beverage industry is to drive anyone who is with her for more than five minutes to need a drink | Mar 22 12:57 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 22 12:57 |
| prurigro | you should ask her what it was like when all the prostitutes and criminals were drinking their moonshine while the rest of the country was holding hands | Mar 22 12:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Vacina suspeita foi dada a 780 mil crianças em Portugal - Ciência - DN http://goo.gl/MKtMJ #bigpharma | Mar 22 13:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Beatings, sexual abuse, electric shock: US torture camps 'still operative' — RT http://goo.gl/2ZZsx #usa #torture #stateterrorism | Mar 22 13:00 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Beatings, sexual abuse, electric shock: US torture camps 'still operative' — RT .::. Size~: 49.94 KB | Mar 22 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/21/new_dr_who_companion/ | Mar 22 13:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dr Who scores new companion from Emmerdale • The Register .::. Size~: 22.56 KB | Mar 22 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | this calls for a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNdSzqDRkXE | Mar 22 13:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 'Damascus blasts prove outside forces arming rebels for more bloodshed' - YouTube http://goo.gl/Rdffb #syria #nato #stateterrorism | Mar 22 13:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'Damascus blasts prove outside forces arming rebels for more bloodshed' - YouTube .::. Size~: 145.25 KB | Mar 22 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2012/03/21/microsoft_subscriptions_pirated/ | Mar 22 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft cuts back on Windows keys after pirates grab booty • Channel Register .::. Size~: 21 KB | Mar 22 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | scheme to sell more Technet subscriptions | Mar 22 13:08 |
| prurigro | lol, well they had to stop sometime | Mar 22 13:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Russian space experts called in to examine 200-kilo 'UFO fragment' which fell from the sky in Siberia http://goo.gl/9ZECG #xfiles ;) | Mar 22 13:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Russian space experts called in to examine 200-kilo 'UFO fragment' which fell from the sky in Siberia | Mail Online .::. Size~: 101.16 KB | Mar 22 13:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Package War? 'West to strike #Iran, #Syria & Hezbollah' - YouTube http://goo.gl/lDD4e #nato #stateterrorism | Mar 22 13:20 | |
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| prurigro | http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/122763-graphene-supercapacitors-are-20-times-as-powerful-can-be-made-with-a-dvd-burner | Mar 22 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Graphene supercapacitors are 20 times as powerful, can be made with a DVD burner | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 59.47 KB | Mar 22 13:21 |
| MinceR | i didn't know DVD burners could make graphene | Mar 22 13:22 |
| prurigro | that's what I was thinking | Mar 22 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | can they make Windows serial numbers? I hear those cost Microsoft a lot when you steal them | Mar 22 13:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 22 13:24 |
| prurigro | stealing windows CD keys seems comparable to downloading Justin Beiber's discography | Mar 22 13:25 |
| prurigro | still confused why it happens | Mar 22 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Software Livre no SAPO » Blog Archive » #pl118 retirado, mas voltará à ribalta http://goo.gl/IkwE0 #mafiaa #pt | Mar 22 13:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A comichão do #BPN - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/RRwnn #pt #poucavergonha #corrupção | Mar 22 13:30 | |
| MinceR | at least they don't force you to listen to bieber's crap yet | Mar 22 13:30 |
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| schestowitz | Today I made spaghetti | Mar 22 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Too much | Mar 22 13:30 |
| prurigro | Beiber will come default in the windows 'My Music' folder soon so you can both steal their CD keys and pirate Beiber in one foul swoop | Mar 22 13:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm here all day, I can talk any time until midnight. | Mar 22 13:31 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, too much food = leftovers | Mar 22 13:31 |
| schestowitz | boring day ahead | Mar 22 13:31 |
| schestowitz | And I need to get some work doen research | Mar 22 13:31 |
| schestowitz | it'sm hard wor | Mar 22 13:31 |
| schestowitz | to come up with ideas | Mar 22 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I second that » RD @marjoleink I still think Windows 2000 was the last really good Windows | Mar 22 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | so much easier to just follow instructions | Mar 22 13:32 |
| schestowitz | no artistic element to it | Mar 22 13:32 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: it means food less fresh | Mar 22 13:32 |
| schestowitz | cause some of it you eat the following day | Mar 22 13:32 |
| *prurigro is lazy | Mar 22 13:32 | |
| prurigro | I prefer having less fresh food to reheat to making new food | Mar 22 13:32 |
| prurigro | :) | Mar 22 13:32 |
| prurigro | also, the artistic stuff is the best part! instruction following stuff should be performed by a computer | Mar 22 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Beigng a GP woukld be fun | Mar 22 13:34 |
| schestowitz | one colleague of mine transferred to that | Mar 22 13:34 |
| schestowitz | another became a radiologist | Mar 22 13:34 |
| schestowitz | I studied some of that, but I'm not a trained medical doctor, just a doctor of medical biophysics | Mar 22 13:34 |
| schestowitz | which is kind of hard when you run out of novel ideas | Mar 22 13:35 |
| prurigro | I'd always assumed your doctorate was in computers | Mar 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | and still must thing of things to try | Mar 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | na.. my BSc is in Computer Science | Mar 22 13:35 |
| prurigro | ahh | Mar 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | same as my fiancee's | Mar 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | and my siblings | Mar 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | we all did CS | Mar 22 13:35 |
| prurigro | haha, no kidding | Mar 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | sister than did an MBA | Mar 22 13:35 |
| prurigro | so how does that connect to biophysics? | Mar 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | biology, physics | Mar 22 13:37 |
| schestowitz | maths too, cs, lots of disciplines | Mar 22 13:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GCC celebrates 25 years with the 4.7.0 release http://ur1.ca/8riue | Mar 22 13:38 | |
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| prurigro | word, what do you do though? | Mar 22 13:42 |
| schestowitz | right now I work on surface comparators | Mar 22 13:46 |
| schestowitz | for anatomy | Mar 22 13:46 |
| schestowitz | like, being able to tell apart differences induced by disease | Mar 22 13:47 |
| schestowitz | versus natural motion | Mar 22 13:47 |
| schestowitz | soft tissue | Mar 22 13:47 |
| schestowitz | or | Mar 22 13:47 |
| schestowitz | differences between individuals, as opposed to within individuals | Mar 22 13:47 |
| schestowitz | lots of geometry in it, and statistics | Mar 22 13:47 |
| prurigro | interesting-- would that be used to then diagnose disease based on unique tissue differences? | Mar 22 13:48 |
| schestowitz | you could automatically slassify things | Mar 22 13:50 |
| schestowitz | in a way that would either save expert time or outdo him/her | Mar 22 13:50 |
| schestowitz | but you could always combine both | Mar 22 13:50 |
| schestowitz | semi-automated, annotation, markers, adjustment of data, registration, refinement (although I'd hardly deal with the latter, it's image processing) | Mar 22 13:51 |
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| prurigro | hmm yea, I'd think experts would be faster if it was clearly one thing or another | Mar 22 13:51 |
| prurigro | but if its questionable, a second opinion to know for sure sounds like a great thing | Mar 22 13:52 |
| prurigro | how far from that can your research get before the department says you're not doing what they want anymore? | Mar 22 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @frostbite If you are in the Boston area don't forget Libre Planet is this weekend. !FSF | Mar 22 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] It’s scary to join an open source project by @storming | http://red.ht/GEHgLw | Mar 22 13:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can the #NSA Break #AES? - http://bit.ly/GG0y2d the 1024-bit question: Uncle Brucie says "no", er, "maybe"... | Mar 22 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What!? That's awesome. For real? | Mar 22 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TPP talks wrap up without American dairy offer - http://bit.ly/GKyLOt "the balance is subtly shifting against the US position." | Mar 22 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] response to #Hargreaves on #copyright reform: #datamining - http://bit.ly/GMePJx important stuff from @petermurrayrust | Mar 22 14:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - My response to Hargreaves on copyright reform: I request the removal of contractual restrictions and independent oversight « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 43.59 KB | Mar 22 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SPDY protocol now available in Jetty (H): http://bit.ly/GMftql | Mar 22 14:20 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Well I for one am glad they did not choose Android. | Mar 22 14:21 |
| schestowitz | I personally like Nokia Belle on my N8 and Meego on the N9 is the best phone OS. I hope that they change their minds about those OS-es and keep them alive. | Mar 22 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Windows Phone is not so bad either. I also like my Lumia 710. | Mar 22 14:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 14:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445697 | Mar 22 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/lumia-epicfail/ #nokia #android #windows #meego | Mar 22 14:21 |
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| schestowitz | A while ago Nokia and MS got caught astroturfing | Mar 22 14:21 |
| schestowitz | for their phones campaign | Mar 22 14:22 |
| schestowitz | also bullying reviewers | Mar 22 14:22 |
| schestowitz | but this one looks like a very legit user | Mar 22 14:23 |
| iophk | It' too late for Nokia now, they've gotten rid of too many key people to be able to survive as a phone company. | Mar 22 14:23 |
| iophk | They've bet the shop on becoming a Windows reseller. | Mar 22 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Can anyone translate Indonesian to English http://ur1.ca/8rjfi ? !fs !gnu | Mar 22 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @bako Document Freedom Day at the EP: Open standards in the eBook market #DFD http://tighturl.com/4pof | Mar 22 14:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/xml type | Mar 22 14:23 |
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| iophk | Part of that usually includes astroturfing. | Mar 22 14:23 |
| schestowitz | not even finns who are CS graduates floci to Nokia | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | only the crap ones migfht | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | those who want to integrate win crap to phones | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | not even code monkeys | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | coders who work for a monkey (Ballmer) | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | So Nokia list its ability to attract brains, it lost its ability to retain any | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | and the results speak for themselves | Mar 22 14:24 |
| schestowitz | same happened to Novell | Mar 22 14:25 |
| schestowitz | their talented Linux devs left - Allison, Love, others... | Mar 22 14:25 |
| schestowitz | all they had left was Greg K-H | Mar 22 14:25 |
| schestowitz | he quit Novell (SUSE) last month | Mar 22 14:25 |
| iophk | Yes he finally quit. | Mar 22 14:25 |
| schestowitz | what took him so long... who knows? | Mar 22 14:25 |
| schestowitz | James B. left ages ago and he no longer needs to focus TOO much on putting MS drivers inside Linux | Mar 22 14:26 |
| iophk | I wonder what his motivation in staying on? | Mar 22 14:26 |
| schestowitz | maybe the pay was good | Mar 22 14:26 |
| schestowitz | MS paud Novell | Mar 22 14:26 |
| schestowitz | he was instrumental for MS | Mar 22 14:26 |
| schestowitz | they could just pay him $200k a year | Mar 22 14:27 |
| schestowitz | to shove some hype-V (sic) into the world's leading kernel | Mar 22 14:27 |
| schestowitz | his work is done now | Mar 22 14:27 |
| schestowitz | MS hired some of the Novell engs who did this | Mar 22 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Ky | Mar 22 14:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think it's a version problem. The parlementum.net site can't verify Salmon signatures from status.net and identi.ca. Not sure why. | Mar 22 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I might wait till, I dunno, there's something more than screenshots. | Mar 22 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WINRAR. Open Source AMD Radeon HD7000 !Linux driver released... by AMD! bit.ly/GNH4Iq !fs | Mar 22 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Data theft: Hacktivists 'steal more than criminals' http://goo.gl/LxIe4 is that a new definition of the word #karma | Mar 22 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when corps spend huge amounts of time & resources to fuck people over for profit, the counter is hacktivists who spend time destroying them | Mar 22 14:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Data theft: Hacktivists 'steal more than criminals' .::. Size~: 69.9 KB | Mar 22 14:33 |
| schestowitz | +1 | Mar 22 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] http://identi.ca/url/68260489 απο σχολιο στο http://identi.ca/url/67880688 | Mar 22 14:35 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Η προπαγάνδα της “Πνευματικής Ιδιοκτησίας” και οι διαφορές του Κοπυραϊτ (Copyright) και των Πατεντών (Patents) « CopyFight .::. Size~: 85.89 KB | Mar 22 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Australian Greens Demand Public Access To Cloak and Dagger Anti-Piracy Meetings http://goo.gl/fN8XQ | Mar 22 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Australian Gov't: Not In The Public Interest For The Public To Be Interested In Secret Anti-Piracy Negotiations http://goo.gl/7o9us | Mar 22 14:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Australian Gov't: Not In The Public Interest For The Public To Be Interested In Secret Anti-Piracy Negotiations | Techdirt .::. Size~: 77.5 KB | Mar 22 14:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Red Hat's PaaS offering - OpenShift - now has node.js! Yay! http://ur1.ca/8rjld... http://b1t.it/a92b | Mar 22 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thistleweb Australian Gov't: Not In The Public Interest For The Public To Be Interested In Secret Anti-Piracy Negotiations http://go ... | Mar 22 14:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] 26-29/Março, Semana de Cultura Digital de Campinas e Região http://ur1.ca/8rjm2 debato na 4ª 19h30 no MIS http://ur1.ca/8rjnl | Mar 22 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] <guitar break> Yeah! | Mar 22 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | <guitar break> Yeah! < LOL | Mar 22 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @majnoona @evan http://ur1.ca/8rjoj | Mar 22 14:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Packing for Mars: The Curious Science of Life in the Void (9780393068474): Mary Roach: Books .::. Size~: 411.53 KB | Mar 22 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Common sense or cod psychology http://ur1.ca/8r2wy I'm tending towards the second actually :) | Mar 22 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Want to work at Creative Commons? Just posted an open position for Counsel: http://ur1.ca/8rjp1 #JOBS | Mar 22 14:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Tennessee did it again! Another Monkey Trial is bound to happen. :) bit.ly/GHc4xv Yay for #Science! Yay for #USA! | Mar 22 14:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: TVP Info w berlińskim hotelu! Czyżby największy sukces polskiej dyplomacji w historii III RP? | Mar 22 14:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Antibiotic resistance genes accumulating in Lake Geneva http://ur1.ca/8rjpp | Mar 22 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] I'll miss this great conference :-( ♻ @frostbite: If you are in the Boston area don't forget Libre Planet is this weekend. #FSF | Mar 22 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That looks a lot more portable than my bismuth bust of LBJ. | Mar 22 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] testing apps is boring | Mar 22 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] !!! It won't be the same without you. | Mar 22 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ACLU: When Patents Don’t Equal Progress http://ur1.ca/8rjrg | Mar 22 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Is there on-the-job training? | Mar 22 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @bako Document Freedom Day at the EP: Open standards in the eBook market #DFD http://tighturl.com/4pof | Mar 22 15:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, look at that. Well, I'm a believer, then. I'd really like to try Worst Name Ever. | Mar 22 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm not good enough to work on !opensource software http://ur1.ca/8rjuh | Mar 22 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] From the 3rd to the 6th of April I will be in London. And from the 11th to the 13th in Moscow. So whoever is close an... http://b1t.it/a93l | Mar 22 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @karsten unleash hell! ;) we're hard at work organising @documentfreedom day in Poland, too. | Mar 22 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] It’s been over a month since my last post about Dianara, so I guess it’s time to blog about its progress again. Wit http://ur1.ca/8rjud | Mar 22 15:18 | |
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| schestowitz | today at work I got a workstation set up for me | Mar 22 15:18 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu LTS with kubuntu-desktop | Mar 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | for any time I visit the lab | Mar 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | that's really cool, they have someone customise it for me | Mar 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | and today we got vouchers for Easter | Mar 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | the flip side is, I haven't bad much time online... nor much time to blog | Mar 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Same next week | Mar 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | More hours for work, less for activism | Mar 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | At least the pay assured long-term maintenance of techrights | Mar 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | today I had to renew the main domain for 2 years | Mar 22 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | next week the .com one too, although It's hardly accessed, just there to defend from hijackers | Mar 22 15:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan thanks, it won't be the same for me, for sure :-) it somehow always overlaps with planned date for daughter's bday party | Mar 22 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan it looked like we'd celebrate it on the 24th, but it ended up on her actual bday, but it was too late for LibrePlanet for me :-( | Mar 22 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | the dust seems to have settled for Linux | Mar 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | not on the desktops | Mar 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | but in general | Mar 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | and yet, patents affect everything | Mar 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft continues to do corrupt things and Apple abuses/misuses patents | Mar 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | is anyone active right now or just afk? | Mar 22 15:23 |
| XFaCE | YEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! | Mar 22 15:24 |
| MinceR | forgot the sunglasses | Mar 22 15:24 |
| XFaCE | \O-O/ | Mar 22 15:25 |
| XFaCE | --[_]-[_]-- | Mar 22 15:25 |
| schestowitz | ಠ_ಠ | Mar 22 15:25 |
| XFaCE | winrar | Mar 22 15:25 |
| schestowitz | arj ftw | Mar 22 15:25 |
| schestowitz | my first compressor | Mar 22 15:26 |
| schestowitz | also one of the first apps to require me to acquire advanced CLI skills | Mar 22 15:26 |
| schestowitz | we had a Russian technicians teach us how to RAR from the command prompt | Mar 22 15:26 |
| schestowitz | about 22 years ago | Mar 22 15:27 |
| schestowitz | oh, here's a funny | Mar 22 15:27 |
| schestowitz | we were kids back then | Mar 22 15:27 |
| schestowitz | and he ones forgot his floppies collection | Mar 22 15:27 |
| schestowitz | with all the utils | Mar 22 15:27 |
| schestowitz | and there was one diskette there with sextris | Mar 22 15:27 |
| schestowitz | now, imagine that in the hands of young kids | Mar 22 15:27 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: woah woah woah woah woah woah | Mar 22 15:28 |
| XFaCE | woah | Mar 22 15:28 |
| XFaCE | Roy, I was just making the Winner-Winrar joke | Mar 22 15:28 |
| schestowitz | kids were not used to computer sex back then | Mar 22 15:28 |
| schestowitz | except.. | Mar 22 15:28 |
| XFaCE | agh | Mar 22 15:28 |
| schestowitz | those arcade games with oriental girls on them | Mar 22 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @psep: Today the GCC development team celebrates the 25th anniversary of the GNU Compiler Collection http://ur1.ca/8rjqz (qt: @gespadas) | Mar 22 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I don't know. | Mar 22 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sometimes when we have lag between servers things get cached before the data arrives. That doesn't seem to be the case here though. | Mar 22 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Context! | Mar 22 15:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Richard Guenther - GCC 4.7.0 Released .::. Size~: 6.06 KB | Mar 22 15:28 |
| schestowitz | what's the Winner-Winrar joke? | Mar 22 15:29 |
| XFaCE | !google encyclopedia dramatica winrar | Mar 22 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - You Win the Prize - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/index.php%3Ftitle%3DYou_Win_the_Prize%26oldid%3D349554 | Mar 22 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - A winner is you - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/A_winner_is_you | Mar 22 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 7-Zip - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/7-Zip | Mar 22 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - View source - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/index.php%3Ftitle%3DWinrar%26action%3Dedit | Mar 22 15:29 |
| XFaCE | agh ED is still down | Mar 22 15:29 |
| XFaCE | Waaahhhh | Mar 22 15:29 |
| schestowitz | ED? | Mar 22 15:29 |
| schestowitz | oh | Mar 22 15:29 |
| schestowitz | had to scrool up | Mar 22 15:29 |
| schestowitz | why is it down? | Mar 22 15:30 |
| XFaCE | stop scrool-ing around! | Mar 22 15:30 |
| schestowitz | libel threats? | Mar 22 15:30 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: No clue | Mar 22 15:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So how can I take The Industry serious wrt piracy when they put out DVDs that look like this http://ur1.ca/8rjwp... http://b1t.it/a93C | Mar 22 15:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Mar 22 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - So how can I take The Industry serious wrt piracy when they… .::. Size~: 85.34 KB | Mar 22 15:30 |
| XFaCE | I believe they used the word "faggotry" to describe the situation | Mar 22 15:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/metacode/status/182232626155880448 | Mar 22 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @metacode: Interview: Richard Stallman http://t.co/MemCRxD7 (@Schestowitz) Interesting interview from the recent #RMS visit 2 #Iran #FOSS #ICT4D #Linux | Mar 22 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Interview: Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 56.64 KB | Mar 22 15:30 |
| XFaCE | In the stupid-behaviour sense | Mar 22 15:30 |
| XFaCE | !google encyclopedia dramatica down | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Encyclopedia Dramatica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia_Dramatica | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Encyclopedia Dramatica gone for good | http://www.inquisitr.com/104161/encyclopedia-dramatica-gone-for-good/ | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Encyclopedia Dramatica Shut Down, Or Did It Just Get DDoSed? | http://techie-buzz.com/tech-news/encyclopedia-dramatica-shut-down.html | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Day The Lulz Died: EncyclopediaDramatica shut down - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D40dhxDggISA | Mar 22 15:31 |
| XFaCE | !google encyclopedia dramatica down yahoo | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - How long will encyclopedia dramatica be down for? - Yahoo! UK ... | http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20120320092523AACi5fC | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - What happened to encyclopedia dramatica.ch? - Yahoo! Answers | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20120320162535AATfjm8 | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Yahoo! - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Yahoo! | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Aspies for Freedom - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Aspies_for_Freedom | Mar 22 15:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ThomasFrick/status/182783071374934016 | Mar 22 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ThomasFrick: @schestowitz Thx for your support :) | Mar 22 15:31 |
| schestowitz | I miss writing more posts | Mar 22 15:31 |
| schestowitz | like 10 a day | Mar 22 15:31 |
| schestowitz | no time to do all that research anymore | Mar 22 15:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] climate denier loony alert on #5live with RichardBacon | Mar 22 15:32 | |
| schestowitz | Well, not *that* kind of research anyway | Mar 22 15:33 |
| *schestowitz back to work | Mar 22 15:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ROTFL! http://ur1.ca/8rjyi | Mar 22 15:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kees de Heer - Google+ - German (where else from) #gnome travels the world to… .::. Size~: 81.26 KB | Mar 22 15:35 |
| XFaCE | "Roy Schestowitz in: BACK TO WORK" | Mar 22 15:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445697 | Mar 22 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/lumia-epicfail/ #nokia #android #windows #meego | Mar 22 15:36 |
| XFaCE | A David Cronenburg film | Mar 22 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.88 KB | Mar 22 15:36 |
| schestowitz | no, just more coffee | Mar 22 15:36 |
| schestowitz | "Let's hope WP will be a failure once more. But so far there are no direct indications that Nokia is dumping the MS deal." | Mar 22 15:36 |
| XFaCE | bbs | Mar 22 15:37 |
| schestowitz | ERROR: cannot connect to port | Mar 22 15:37 |
| schestowitz | try ftp | Mar 22 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think I need to work on some lag-tolerant caching. I had a branch for it for a while but it's very out of date. | Mar 22 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] climate deniers are like many other hardline freaks; every response they use to paint themselves as the victim of a conspiracy | Mar 22 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] The Media Capture API Note Published http://ow.ly/1ieOrW | Mar 22 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: Widget Updates http://ow.ly/1ieOrU | Mar 22 15:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: W3C News Archive: 2012 W3C .::. Size~: 92.58 KB | Mar 22 15:43 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: we ought to make a techrights Canada site | Mar 22 15:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: W3C News Archive: 2012 W3C .::. Size~: 92.58 KB | Mar 22 15:43 |
| schestowitz | if not just a page | Mar 22 15:43 |
| schestowitz | like the Spanish portal | Mar 22 15:43 |
| schestowitz | I can make a start | Mar 22 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://pressabout.us/techrights.org | Mar 22 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Press About techrights.org - Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 110.95 KB | Mar 22 15:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Popularity | Mar 22 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Mar 22 15:45 | |
| schestowitz | Mar 22 15:45 | |
| schestowitz | 4.6 out of 5 by PressAboutU | Mar 22 15:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 15:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/topic/ZkTD7RTu0Xk/techrights | Mar 22 15:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] CSS Specifications Updated: Flexible Box Layout, Grid Layout http://ow.ly/1ieOrV | Mar 22 15:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: W3C News Archive: 2012 W3C .::. Size~: 92.58 KB | Mar 22 15:47 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Espanol | Mar 22 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Español - Techrights .::. Size~: 114.36 KB | Mar 22 15:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Horto domi open hardware Kickstarter: http://kck.st/GGNCN2 | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Warum funktioniert das Geschäftsmodell der Musikindustrie also nicht mehr, obwohl es vom Gesetzgeber massiv durch ei... http://b1t.it/a93X | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @rysiek Great! Go rock Poland on @documentfreedom Day #dfd :) | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] US Supreme Court narrows patentable subject matter http://ur1.ca/8rk0s Can't patent laws of nature | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Just received one of those "Recall" messages that Outlook generates. Some peoples' naive belief in the power of tech is touching. | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Horto domi: the Open Garden by Outer Babylon — Kickstarter .::. Size~: 43.11 KB | Mar 22 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Neu im Blog .::. Size~: 87.2 KB | Mar 22 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Supreme Court Narrows Patentable Subject Matter | Intellectual Property Watch .::. Size~: 41.5 KB | Mar 22 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] From the 3rd to the 6th of April I will be in London. And from the 11th to the 13th in Moscow. So whoever is close and... http://b1t.it/a93l | Mar 22 15:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - From the 3rd to the 6th of April I will be in London. And… .::. Size~: 77.96 KB | Mar 22 15:53 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: I'm linking it from the front page, which got nearly 2 million visits | Mar 22 15:55 |
| schestowitz | the wiki page | Mar 22 15:55 |
| XFaCE | OMG, it's a miracle Roy! | Mar 22 16:00 |
| XFaCE | Windows is telling me that there are no wireless connections available, and yet I'm connecting a wireless network! | Mar 22 16:00 |
| XFaCE | I don't know which one | Mar 22 16:01 |
| XFaCE | Isn't this amazing? | Mar 22 16:01 |
| XFaCE | Windows(R)(C)TM | Mar 22 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google condamné à désindexer le passé d’une ex-actrice porno - http://bit.ly/GO9CkZ "right to be forgotten"? (v @JustinBrookman @klang67) | Mar 22 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Happy birthday to #GCC -- 25 years old today -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/happy-birthday-gcc !gnu !fsf !lp | Mar 22 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The numbers behind the #Copyright Math - http://bit.ly/GOashA lots of great links backing up the nos. | Mar 22 16:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google condamné à désindexer le passé d’une ex-actrice porno - Actualité PC INpact .::. Size~: 41.34 KB | Mar 22 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Happy Birthday GCC! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.33 KB | Mar 22 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TED Blog | The numbers behind the Copyright Math .::. Size~: 146.01 KB | Mar 22 16:02 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: linking in the pressaboutu? | Mar 22 16:02 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Techrights_Canada | Mar 22 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Techrights Canada - Techrights .::. Size~: 12.86 KB | Mar 22 16:03 |
| schestowitz | fill in the gaps :-) | Mar 22 16:03 |
| schestowitz | for big audience over time | Mar 22 16:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=+canada+site%3Atechrights.org&hl=en&site=&oq=+canada+site%3Atechrights.org&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...540995l540995l0l541302l1l1l0l0l0l0l145l145l0j1l1l0.frgbld. | Mar 22 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: canada site:techrights.org - Google Search .::. Size~: 138.56 KB | Mar 22 16:03 |
| schestowitz | lots of sutff there | Mar 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz | from over 5 years | Mar 22 16:04 |
| XFaCE | 'deed | Mar 22 16:04 |
| XFaCE | is the google search more effective than an internal search? | Mar 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz | yes, but far | Mar 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz | but it offers no privacy | Mar 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz | third party | Mar 22 16:04 |
| XFaCE | tor time | Mar 22 16:05 |
| XFaCE | brb | Mar 22 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks, I'll check it out! | Mar 22 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nonnomnom ... http://ur1.ca/8rk5g | Mar 22 16:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gabriel Ortiz - Google+ - Hora de una pausa activa! #querico #starwars .::. Size~: 81.13 KB | Mar 22 16:05 |
| XFaCE | Windblows is having a hissy | Mar 22 16:05 |
| XFaCE | well that was a fail in every way | Mar 22 16:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] corps who demand your personal social network logins are telling you they don't trust you; talk about an ego boost huh? #staffmorale | Mar 22 16:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know an easy to follow guide to installing #Drupal 7 multisite across subdomains - my brain is buckling at some I've found | Mar 22 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] trying to get a single sign on across each subdomain | Mar 22 16:12 | |
| *koolhead17|away (~beermon@117.193.239.164) has joined #techrights | Mar 22 16:13 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to abeNd-org | Mar 22 16:13 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to tessier | Mar 22 16:13 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to koolhead17|away | Mar 22 16:13 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to cubefc1 | Mar 22 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Corporate perk or monopolist bribery? Microsoft offers gratis proprietary software to #EP staffers http://ur1.ca/8rk9u | Mar 22 16:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: epfsug - [EPFSUG] STANDARD HOME USE PROGRAM - arc .::. Size~: 23.38 KB | Mar 22 16:23 |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, you'll like this one: | Mar 22 16:27 |
| cubezzz | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1411 | Mar 22 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Questionable Content: New comics every Monday through Friday .::. Size~: 8.03 KB | Mar 22 16:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] listening to what I consider the best noise music in years: http://ur1.ca/8rkam (Morbus M) | Mar 22 16:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Morbus M. - Checkpoints - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.68 KB | Mar 22 16:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 22 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Here is a bee. #bee http://identi.ca/url/68263282 | Mar 22 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @laf0rge "best noise music" doesn't set the bar very high as far as I'm concerned. But there's no arguing about tastes ;-) | Mar 22 16:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 22 16:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Microsoft's #EP "home use" program limits software to private use. Staffer prepares work presentation at home >> presto, license breached. | Mar 22 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #EP staffers who accept #Microsoft "home use program" http://ur1.ca/8rk9u are setting themselves up for copyright violation. | Mar 22 16:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: epfsug - [EPFSUG] STANDARD HOME USE PROGRAM - arc .::. Size~: 23.38 KB | Mar 22 16:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Oh, and did I mention that Microsoft's #EP "home use" program looks a lot like trying to bribe staffers in a political institution? | Mar 22 16:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, I just remounted the drives, so they should be working better. | Mar 22 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Wondering if #BSA will get round to auditing #EP staffers for Microsoft Home Use Program license violations. | Mar 22 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I know! | Mar 22 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @karsten #EP staffers who accept #Microsoft "home use program" http://ur1.ca/8rk9u are setting themselves up for copyright violation. | Mar 22 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "sigmataf 2: Ασανσέρ" from http://identi.ca/url/68263802 | Mar 22 16:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: epfsug - [EPFSUG] STANDARD HOME USE PROGRAM - arc .::. Size~: 23.38 KB | Mar 22 16:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @ch4plin @chiossif Congrats to !GCC for 25th anniversary .. and then more !GNU | Mar 22 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @fsf Happy birthday to #GCC -- 25 years old today -- http://ur1.ca/8rk4o !gnu !fsf !lp | Mar 22 17:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Happy Birthday GCC! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.33 KB | Mar 22 17:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNU libc 2.15 released http://ur1.ca/8rkk3 | Mar 22 17:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU libc 2.15 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.59 KB | Mar 22 17:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf Happy birthday to #GCC -- 25 years old today -- http://ur1.ca/8rk4o !gnu !fsf !lp | Mar 22 17:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Happy Birthday GCC! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.33 KB | Mar 22 17:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ed Vaizey denies Comms Bill green paper delayed till post-Olympics - http://bit.ly/GFWnFm watch out for the ideas from #SOPA - then protest | Mar 22 17:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SRoC: Slightly Right of Centre: Ed Vaizey denies Comms Bill green paper delayed till post-Olympics, but sources claim DCMS/No 10 spat over copyright .::. Size~: 99.89 KB | Mar 22 17:15 |
| iophk | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57402415-264/with-linux-merge-expect-android-flowers-to-bloom/ | Mar 22 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: With Linux merge, expect Android flowers to bloom | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 81.19 KB | Mar 22 17:16 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | and all the fudmeisters that say android success has nothing to do with Linux can shut up | Mar 22 17:17 |
| XFaCE | iophk: Is this about the reunification? | Mar 22 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ElbaZostaje: Trasa demonstracji http://t.co/uTNb0x99 | Mar 22 17:20 | |
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| iophk | XFaCE: yes | Mar 22 17:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Star Trek reference: :) | Mar 22 17:21 |
| XFaCE | iophk: The Vulcans and Romulans | Mar 22 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] NSA Chief appears to deny the ability to warrantlessly wiretap despite ample evidence to the contrary https://eff.org/r.2V7 | Mar 22 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Edison's Revenge: Will Direct Current Make a Comeback in the U.S.? (SciAm): http://bit.ly/GGDK2i | Mar 22 17:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Edison's Revenge: Will Direct Current Make a Comeback in the U.S.?: Scientific American .::. Size~: 82.66 KB | Mar 22 17:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] About time too! - A first post in a while: http://ur1.ca/8rkr2 #kindle #ebook | Mar 22 17:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/xml; charset=utf-8 type | Mar 22 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Anti-Piracy Group Shuts Down Pirate Bay Proxies - http://goo.gl/EIDk8 #piracy #tpb | Mar 22 17:35 | |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/I-pNX7SZ_IM/story01.htm | Mar 22 17:36 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: File-sharing drones, powered by GNU+Linux | Mar 22 17:36 |
| XFaCE | denting that now | Mar 22 17:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, I was hoping more for something like, "Wow, all that spam is gone! Cool!" | Mar 22 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, now cache of visibility for notices by silenced users is flushed when you silence or unsilence. Should give better feedback. | Mar 22 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I did the same with notices that were detected as spam by the spam server this morning, too. So, #wysiwyg right now, I think. | Mar 22 17:43 | |
| cubezzz | wow, an IRC joke | Mar 22 17:44 |
| cubezzz | pure geekery | Mar 22 17:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You have to be a moderator. I fixed the bug that showed it to people who couldn't do anything about it. If you see a spammer, use the flag. | Mar 22 17:45 | |
| *koolhead17|away is now known as koolhead17 | Mar 22 17:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ολη μερα με δυο μπισκοτα την εχω βγαλει #piximo | Mar 22 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] File-sharing drones, powered by #GNU + #Linux http://ur1.ca/8rkv0 #sharing #Freesoftware | Mar 22 17:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nonprofit open source organizations booming (ITworld) http://ur1.ca/8rkvn | Mar 22 17:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nonprofit open source organizations booming (ITworld) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.33 KB | Mar 22 17:52 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: drones are scary ಠ_ಠ | Mar 22 18:01 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: These are tiny, pretty and harmless | Mar 22 18:01 |
| XFaCE | They are the happy drones to counteract the miltarized US ones | Mar 22 18:01 |
| schestowitz | drnes are harmless | Mar 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | no US tropops killed | Mar 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | bodycount: 0 | Mar 22 18:02 |
| schestowitz | dead arsb count: doesn't matter (USA USA!! USA!!) | Mar 22 18:02 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: Well, the Linux drones could sent information warning of attacks | Mar 22 18:03 |
| XFaCE | or provide life-saying informaiton | Mar 22 18:03 |
| XFaCE | :) | Mar 22 18:03 |
| XFaCE | *other life-saving information | Mar 22 18:03 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Forget Techrights canada, we could have Techrights...in a drone | Mar 22 18:04 |
| schestowitz | it's easy to deploy on one | Mar 22 18:04 |
| schestowitz | as long as the US doesn't hog root DNS servers | Mar 22 18:04 |
| schestowitz | although, as long as it acquires IP address, anyone could get ti it | Mar 22 18:05 |
| schestowitz | on a wireless drone | Mar 22 18:05 |
| iophk | Was this an Accenture / M$ issue? | Mar 22 18:09 |
| iophk | http://icrontic.com/article/altinn-goes-down | Mar 22 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: http://identi.ca/notice/92095794 | Mar 22 18:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Thursday, 22-Mar-12 16:54:09 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @karsten #EP staffers who accept #Microsoft "home use program" http://ur1.ca/8rk9u are setting themselves up for copyright violation. | Mar 22 18:10 |
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| schestowitz | XFaCE: the drone has one servers rack, one machine gun, two rocket racks on each side | Mar 22 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | so it can pursue people who abuse the site | Mar 22 18:11 |
| schestowitz | it can travel to their house and leave a payload | Mar 22 18:11 |
| schestowitz | (of packets | Mar 22 18:11 |
| ThistleWeb | a weapon that can track people to their homes and deliver a payload sounds like a well trained dog with targeted squatting training | Mar 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | 0k, 6pm, I'm free for the day | Mar 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: s/squatting./squirting/ | Mar 22 18:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I think the idea that you can count on spammers to act rationally is kind of misplaced. They mostly seem to work by voodoo. | Mar 22 18:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey, so, you're the only person I know of who actually has one of these. Photo? News? | Mar 22 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | s/dog/skunk. | Mar 22 18:13 |
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| *XFaCE gives voice to ThistleWeb | Mar 22 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2012/03/22/ziff-davis-enterprise/ | Mar 22 18:18 |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to ThistleWeb | Mar 22 18:18 | |
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| schestowitz | heh | Mar 22 18:18 |
| schestowitz | ziif/gates is kaput | Mar 22 18:18 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: 0/ | Mar 22 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The great thing about voodoo is that you do the same thing over and over, which is easy for machines to detect. | Mar 22 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2012 Will be The Year of The GNU/Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/8rl4o depending on how one classifies Android | Mar 22 18:18 | |
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| schestowitz | maybe for the better | Mar 22 18:18 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Mar 22 18:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell gets more open saucy http://ur1.ca/8rl6l at least they try. #dell #opensource #ubuntu | Mar 22 18:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GCC 4.7.0 released to mark the 25 years of GNU Compiler Collection http://ur1.ca/8rl73 #gnu #gcc | Mar 22 18:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GCC 4.7.0 released to mark the 25 years of GNU Compiler Collection - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.19 KB | Mar 22 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HPC stats are out again, reminding us - as always - that #Linux is top at the top, increasingly top at the bottom (devices) too | Mar 22 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's this nonsense about #Linux being an "underdog" when 100+ companies develop it and 100m+ machines run it? | Mar 22 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] All the penguin needs now is a good gnu. It would also be nice if Linux always brought about techrights and techfreedom along with it. | Mar 22 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Follows a Fedora Linux Miracle ? http://ur1.ca/8rl9h what's with cuisine? Naming it after food is Andorid's thing. | Mar 22 18:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Linux Can Bring Life To Your Old PC http://ur1.ca/8rla9 #gnu #linux | Mar 22 18:33 | |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: \0 | Mar 22 18:34 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Mar 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: \0 \o | Mar 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | ^ me and dad | Mar 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | ಠ_ಠ < that's mom | Mar 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | just ignore her, she's always like that ^-^ | Mar 22 18:35 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Mar 22 18:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445697# | Mar 22 18:35 |
| schestowitz | You can get it in States using Expansys: http://www.expansys-usa.com/s.aspx?search=n9 | Mar 22 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/lumia-epicfail/ #nokia #android #windows #meego | Mar 22 18:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Vim? http://ur1.ca/8rlcm #vim #linux #unix | Mar 22 18:40 | |
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| *schestowitz hates vi | Mar 22 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | learning vi is like marrying because of a baby, rather than having a baby because of a marriage | Mar 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | justa waste of time | Mar 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | and it's annoying to work with unless you're very experienced, with a manual nearvy | Mar 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | *nearby | Mar 22 18:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @m4nima1 "Meet The Hackers Who Sell Spies The Tools To Crack Your PC (And Get Paid Six-Figure Fees) - Forbes" from http://ur1.ca/8rlb8 | Mar 22 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free and Open Source Puzzle Game 'Me and My Shadow' is Quite Challenging http://ur1.ca/8rleo #games #gnu #linux | Mar 22 18:48 | |
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| MinceR | vim > * | Mar 22 18:49 |
| *fewt loves the vi | Mar 22 18:49 | |
| schestowitz | vim > /dev/null/ | Mar 22 18:49 |
| schestowitz | i use it daily | Mar 22 18:49 |
| schestowitz | and hate it | Mar 22 18:49 |
| schestowitz | used it an hour ago to change openvpn settings | Mar 22 18:49 |
| fewt | I've never been an emacs fan | Mar 22 18:50 |
| fewt | don't hate it, just never took the time to care to learn it | Mar 22 18:50 |
| schestowitz | and the edit mods are showing no indicator | Mar 22 18:50 |
| schestowitz | so you overwrite and add crappy chars all over the place | Mar 22 18:50 |
| schestowitz | nano is crap too | Mar 22 18:51 |
| schestowitz | all the ncurses ones are torture | Mar 22 18:51 |
| schestowitz | vim more so | Mar 22 18:51 |
| fewt | I don't normally like GUI text editors, but I seem to be becoming a geany fan lately. | Mar 22 18:51 |
| schestowitz | the editor DOS 6 had were not as bad | Mar 22 18:51 |
| fewt | try gvim? /joke | Mar 22 18:51 |
| fewt | edit? | Mar 22 18:51 |
| fewt | edlin, that was fun | Mar 22 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Norton Commander had a decent one too | Mar 22 18:52 |
| fewt | ee on FreeBSD wasn't too bad | Mar 22 18:52 |
| fewt | reminded me of WordStar | Mar 22 18:52 |
| fewt | wow flashback to Scripsit on Xenix a second ago | Mar 22 18:52 |
| fewt | old school | Mar 22 18:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Looking at the idea of !Copyright law [Getting Rid Of 'IP'] Why Should They? http://www.ur1.ca/8rlfe !CDNpoli !C11 | Mar 22 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Thursday http://ur1.ca/8rlg7 | Mar 22 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drupal's Plan for Open Source CMS Success http://ur1.ca/8rlg8 #cms #drupal | Mar 22 18:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447455 | Mar 22 18:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Without x, there's vim; otherwise, why bother? Learning vim is rarely worth the learning curve, it's learned out of necessity. | Mar 22 18:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's ridiculous southern Ontario weather (in*June* we'd call it a heat wave) 25.7 °C with 31.9°C Humidex #March22 #whathappenedtospring? | Mar 22 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thisisparker "If you require probable cause for every technique, then you are making it very hard for law enforcement." -Real quote, ... | Mar 22 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "who habitually consults websites that advocate terrorism or call for violence will be punished" #Sarkozy #thoughtcrime reut.rs/GP2MvH | Mar 22 19:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447265 | Mar 22 19:19 |
| schestowitz | "Maybe, if that means your can come to an end because of smilling (negative thinking). It's great to see how many things can you do with a simple smile, even to change a person's life (positive thinking). " | Mar 22 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 22 19:19 |
| schestowitz | ""Fuck Yeah!" i could'nt say that better :D " | Mar 22 19:19 |
| MinceR | 195008 <+schestowitz> and the edit mods are showing no indicator | Mar 22 19:19 |
| MinceR | it can be configured to show the mode | Mar 22 19:19 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92098800 | Mar 22 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rick Valenzuela (groksteady)'s status on Thursday, 22-Mar-12 18:59:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I'm just back playing with unix after a decade gap. Tried vi for a day, promptly went back to pico. | Mar 22 19:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm back.. from a nap | Mar 22 19:20 |
| scientes | schestowitz, good for you | Mar 22 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I wish I stayed awake actually | Mar 22 19:22 |
| MinceR | actually it seems to say "-- INSERT --" in insert mode and say nothing in normal mode by default | Mar 22 19:22 |
| scientes | yeah, i use nano like a noob | Mar 22 19:23 |
| scientes | well, dont feel bad i just woke up | Mar 22 19:23 |
| schestowitz | I use mono LIKE A BOSS | Mar 22 19:23 |
| schestowitz | (nlo, not really) | Mar 22 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] French President Sarkozy sees opportunity for censorship, seizes it https://eff.org/r.5V9 | Mar 22 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE vs Unity: Is KDE Better Than Unity? http://ur1.ca/8rlps #kde #unity | Mar 22 19:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is plenty that's wrong with this headline http://ur1.ca/8rlq6 | Mar 22 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Obama administration offers more "Net Freedom" to Iranians, but not Syrians https://eff.org/r.V7A | Mar 22 19:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: I need a cell phone, after all. Trying to disable shit sharing shit on my dreams!" #peepers | Mar 22 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zync Releases Rs 8,999 ICS Tablet For India http://ur1.ca/8rlqr #india #tablet #linux | Mar 22 19:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vector Linux 7.0 Light released. http://ur1.ca/8rlrt #gnu #linux | Mar 22 19:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft and Skype set to allow backdoor eavesdropping http://ur1.ca/8pgyk welcome to Redmond. Here's your rock. | Mar 22 19:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Lawsuits bring scrutiny to #TrinityBroadcasting http://goo.gl/jOzE6 the #GodSquad meets the #FraudSquad | Mar 22 19:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk ? | Mar 22 19:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @eff French President Sarkozy sees opportunity for censorship, seizes it https://eff.org/r.5V9 | Mar 22 19:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ISO adpproves a cartel http://ur1.ca/8rlt9 ISO: money before standards http://ur1.ca/8rlta | Mar 22 19:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] This pampered private school elite can only lead to US decline http://gu.com/p/36cda | Mar 22 19:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This pampered private school elite can only lead to US decline | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 274.3 KB | Mar 22 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman loses bid to end lawsuit over risky CDO http://ur1.ca/8rltt lawsuits, still no risk of jail time (jail is fr poor people) | Mar 22 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman loses bid to end lawsuit over risky CDO http://ur1.ca/8rltt lawsuits, still no risk of jail time (jail is for poor people | Mar 22 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NHS cuts and staff reductions: is it any wonder nurses are so unhappy? http://gu.com/p/36cba | Mar 22 19:38 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NHS cuts and staff reductions: is it any wonder nurses are so unhappy? | Brian Kellett | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 239.57 KB | Mar 22 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaked document suggests 'systematic fraud' at A4e http://goo.gl/kFWRS | Mar 22 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Goldman loses bid to end lawsuit over risky CDO http://ur1.ca/8rltt lawsuits, still no risk of jail time (jail is for p ... | Mar 22 19:40 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447449 | Mar 22 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Vim? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/ #vim #linux #unix | Mar 22 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | "i love vim! " | Mar 22 19:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @bako Document Freedom Day at the EP: Open standards in the eBook market #DFD http://tighturl.com/4pof | Mar 22 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @open2space The !freebyron court case is showing how uneducated the police are in a #technical / #maker / #DIY sense. | Mar 22 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @kirk_werklund From !FreeByron trial: Defence: "Do you know what an extruder is?" Ouellett: "No. I know what an intruder is." #facepalm | Mar 22 19:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 In other news, apparently talking about #G20, etc, on twitter is enough to get you talked about in court. !FreeByron | Mar 22 19:47 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69620-Linux-Kernel-May-Gain-VMUFAT-File-System-Support&p=255300#post255300 | Mar 22 19:48 |
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| DaemonFC | https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/3/22/136 | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| DaemonFC | they persist with something that's not much of an improvement over sysvinit | Mar 22 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @g20mobilize Byron Sonne's case resumes Friday March 23rd at 10am (room 2-2 at 361 University Ave). !freebyron #g20report | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So Lulzsec are making a cameo return for all fools day http://goo.gl/Khjqp | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anonymous: LulzSec returns on April Fools' Day? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 133.75 KB | Mar 22 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | and continue ignoring systemd | Mar 22 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Which Pro-Wrestler Is Your Operating System? http://ur1.ca/8rm2f #gnu #unix #linux | Mar 22 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @q_e_d Random thoughts on the Criminalization of Dissent http://www.ur1.ca/8rm06 !freebyron #g20report | Mar 22 19:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bodhi Linux, the Beautiful Configurable Lightweight Linux http://ur1.ca/8rfbp #BodhiLinux | Mar 22 19:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 Today's Byron Trial http://www.ur1.ca/8rm6b -- Crossexamination of Oullett #Toronto !FreeByron | Mar 22 19:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pacman Package Manager http://ur1.ca/8rm8g #gnu #linux | Mar 22 19:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | coffee lets you do stupid things faster | Mar 22 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart does that for your init system | Mar 22 19:59 |
| MinceR | computers make fast, accurate mistakes | Mar 22 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: When you turn on the kitchen sink, your toilet shouldn't flush | Mar 22 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | somehow that's how Upstart makes assumptions about how to respond to events | Mar 22 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | plug in a thumbdrive and look at what it prints out to your syslog | Mar 22 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | and tell me that running dozens of shell scripts and printing out messages about every type of file system the device isn't is useful information | Mar 22 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | or that it's running things that it should have to run | Mar 22 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 81 dents! | Mar 22 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Carla Schroder: Whoever controls technology controls society http://ur1.ca/8rm9h yes, exactly! She 'gets' freedom. | Mar 22 20:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carla Schroder: Whoever controls technology controls society - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 117.69 KB | Mar 22 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | *is useful information | Mar 22 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't think it improves much on sysvinit | Mar 22 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | it runs the same scripts some some parallelism but it still runs too many of them and far too slowly | Mar 22 20:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'd really like one of these Amiga Mini PCs http://goo.gl/fPCk0 | Mar 22 20:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Powered Commodore Amiga Mini PC Launched - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.86 KB | Mar 22 20:03 |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/openSUSE-12-2-Milestone-2-Has-Linux-Kernel-3-3-259790.shtml | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: openSUSE 12.2 Milestone 2 Has Linux Kernel 3.3 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.91 KB | Mar 22 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | So does Fedora 17 | Mar 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | but unlike suse, it doesn't suck | Mar 22 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | well, I do like the opensuse build system | Mar 22 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | and suse studio | Mar 22 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | their distribution needs some TLC though | Mar 22 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | I think Yast is still using Qt3 | Mar 22 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Like the used car salesman says "It just needs some TLC" | Mar 22 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | TRANSMISSION | Mar 22 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | LIGHTS | Mar 22 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | CHASSIS! | Mar 22 20:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 22 20:08 |
| MinceR | wait, it has an engine? | Mar 22 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know if this !Chrome exploit worked generally or only on Windows 7? http://goo.gl/GSvWd | Mar 22 20:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hacker Paid $60000 After Finding Chrome Exploit On Windows 7 .::. Size~: 95.33 KB | Mar 22 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | "Can you make one end of it stop smoking?" | Mar 22 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, maybe with a nicotine patch! | Mar 22 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | "This thing is a steal!" | Mar 22 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, who stole it? | Mar 22 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I refer to the old TV series Brimstone | Mar 22 20:13 |
| MinceR | i've never seen it | Mar 22 20:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17460172 | Mar 22 20:14 |
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| DaemonFC | the devil sends a police detective who dies and goes to hell back to Earth with the promise he'll be given a second chance in exchange for hunting damned souls that escaped from hell and sending them back | Mar 22 20:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe Ill try atching Doctor Who | Mar 22 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | in the show, these damned souls wake up with whatever they had on them when they died | Mar 22 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | and in his case it was like $13.67 | Mar 22 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | but he gets another $13.67 each day when he wakes up | Mar 22 20:15 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92100468 | Mar 22 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Mar-12 20:02:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Open Source: Using Mageia 1 for Six Months Now http://ur1.ca/8rcyt #Mageia #gnu #linux | Mar 22 20:15 |
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| DaemonFC | so in one episode the devil tries selling him the car from hell | Mar 22 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | for $13.67 | Mar 22 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | but ends up going to $5 so he'll have gas money | Mar 22 20:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 22 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | it was on briefly in the late 90s | Mar 22 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I told my dad that my grandmother would probably wake up each day with a full pot of that horrible vegetable soup she makes | Mar 22 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Firefox-switching-to-encrypted-Google-search-1478378.html | Mar 22 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox switching to encrypted Google search - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.45 KB | Mar 22 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | install https everywhere and that's just one rule among thousands | Mar 22 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Banshee-2-4-adds-DVD-playback-and-UPnP-streaming-1478014.html | Mar 22 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Banshee 2.4 adds DVD playback and UPnP streaming - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.53 KB | Mar 22 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | now schestowitz can watch his DVDs in his favorite media player | Mar 22 20:20 |
| iophk | https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere | Mar 22 20:21 |
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| DaemonFC | "tweaks to Banshee's alternative Muinshee UI" | Mar 22 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 22 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | that was a separate project to write a media player in C#/gtk# | Mar 22 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | eventually it just got rolled into Banshee as an alternate GUI | Mar 22 20:22 |
| MinceR | resistance was futile | Mar 22 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | I am dyslexic of Borg | Mar 22 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | fusistance is retile | Mar 22 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | your ass will be laminated | Mar 22 20:23 |
| formic_ | All your code are belong to us | Mar 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | all your patent are belong to us | Mar 22 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | did Microsoft ever open source Visual Basic? | Mar 22 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | or does "all your visual basic belong to us" still? | Mar 22 20:25 |
| MinceR | would anyone care? | Mar 22 20:25 |
| MinceR | hm, i guess miguel would switch to basic if they did | Mar 22 20:25 |
| formic_ | Lol | Mar 22 20:26 |
| formic_ | There is gambas | Mar 22 20:26 |
| MinceR | what's that, food? | Mar 22 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #GCC 4.7.0 released to mark the 25 years of GNU Compiler Collection - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/6wy9k #floss | Mar 22 20:27 | |
| formic_ | Basic for Linux | Mar 22 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GCC 4.7.0 released to mark the 25 years of GNU Compiler Collection - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.19 KB | Mar 22 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's not nice to pick on the intellectually differently abled like that | Mar 22 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | or whatever the Nazis are calling it this week | Mar 22 20:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, but not for you | Mar 22 20:28 |
| schestowitz | for the rhinos | Mar 22 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Proposal to disable Wubi Installs from 12.04 (but maintain the separate .exe) http://ur1.ca/8rmhe #wubi #ubuntu | Mar 22 20:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [RFC] Proposal to disable Wubi Installs from 12.04 (but maintain theseparate .exe) .::. Size~: 5.13 KB | Mar 22 20:28 |
| formic_ | http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html | Mar 22 20:29 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 22 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gambas - Gambas Almost Means Basic .::. Size~: 1.66 KB | Mar 22 20:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447805 | Mar 22 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Which Pro-Wrestler Is Your Operating System? http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/03/which-pro-wrestler-is-your-operating-system/ #gnu #unix #linux | Mar 22 20:34 |
| schestowitz | "1st place: Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) 2nd place: openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) I know you asked for one but I like both :-) " | Mar 22 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu 11.10 was even buggier than Ubuntu 12.04 | Mar 22 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | but most of those bugs are centered around that Unity thing | Mar 22 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu escapes most of those problems | Mar 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuKAbwwW4cM&feature=digest_mon | Mar 22 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | ^new | Mar 22 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | I asked Fedora Legal for a review of Clementine | Mar 22 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | still no replies, but I guess Red Hat's lawyers might take a look at that Spotify Core problem now | Mar 22 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've found it's better to talk to the lawyers when I spot a potential legal problem in a package than to the package maintainer | Mar 22 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | the package maintainer usually doesn't care | Mar 22 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | but if the lawyers don't like it, they have veto power over the package maintainer | Mar 22 20:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 22 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Embarrassing-security-failure-at-PayPal-1477905.html | Mar 22 20:45 |
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| MinceR | formic_: gambas isn't good enough for miguel, as it's not based on .net/mono | Mar 22 20:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "life is fulla shit, when you look at it" | Mar 22 20:45 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It could be ported | Mar 22 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | and then it will run on iOS | Mar 22 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, "UNIX derivatives" like Linux of course | Mar 22 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | he's taken up Microsoft's habit of referring to Linux as UNIX | Mar 22 20:46 |
| formic_ | whats wrong with calling it unix? | Mar 22 20:46 |
| MinceR | GNU/Linux is Unix, as far as i care | Mar 22 20:47 |
| MinceR | and the open group can go fuck themselves :) | Mar 22 20:47 |
| formic_ | yeah | Mar 22 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | so should we call it GNU's Now UNIX? | Mar 22 20:47 |
| MinceR | we should call it GNU | Mar 22 20:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 22 20:47 |
| formic_ | what would unix be then? | Mar 22 20:48 |
| formic_ | bsd, solaris ? | Mar 22 20:48 |
| MinceR | whoever paid the open group enough | Mar 22 20:48 |
| MinceR | which is of course irrelevant to everyone except them and marketroids | Mar 22 20:49 |
| formic_ | hackers say you need to use unix | Mar 22 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | you mean criminal hackers that the news talks about? | Mar 22 20:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Firefox switching to encrypted Google search - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/ItW8n | Mar 22 20:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox switching to encrypted Google search - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.66 KB | Mar 22 20:50 |
| MinceR | you mean you don't know what the word "hacker" means? | Mar 22 20:50 |
| MinceR | http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html | Mar 22 20:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: hacker .::. Size~: 4.54 KB | Mar 22 20:50 |
| MinceR | educate yourself :> | Mar 22 20:50 |
| formic_ | freedom fighters | Mar 22 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | no, hackers write malicious software | Mar 22 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | poor Microsoft (the good guys) just can't seem to stop those ZOMG HACKERS | Mar 22 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | but they're suing them | Mar 22 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | so that should teach them | Mar 22 20:52 |
| formic_ | thats what microsoft says | Mar 22 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 22 20:52 |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Mar 22 20:53 | |
| MinceR | and yes, m$ is indeed trying to stop the hackers | Mar 22 20:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'll take it as a gift, but I'd also be willing to host a Catalan-language community site on the StatusNet cloud, gratis. | Mar 22 20:53 | |
| MinceR | just not the "hackers" the "journalists" mean | Mar 22 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] AT&T collected millions from taxpayers in fraudulent charges, US says http://goo.gl/CTmPe | Mar 22 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That shows up fine for me. | Mar 22 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Carla Schroder: Whoever controls technology controls society http://ur1.ca/8rm9h yes, exactly! She 'gets' freedom. | Mar 22 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sarkozy Seeks To Criminalize 'Habitually Visiting' Websites About Violence http://goo.gl/bSg4B that includes military sites right? | Mar 22 20:55 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sarkozy Seeks To Criminalize 'Habitually Visiting' Websites About Violence | Techdirt .::. Size~: 60.22 KB | Mar 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti73SgrLadU&context=C4ece778ADvjVQa1PpcFPciAB8VXPO9V2Fzaxjix-Q966aVTNPEmE= | Mar 22 20:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] People complain about the things they care about. It's when they stop complaining that you're no longer having an impact. | Mar 22 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] or does "violence" only mean amateurs? surely the pinnacle of violence is the military, they have training camps, propaganda & everything | Mar 22 20:57 | |
| DaemonFC | [16:56] <tango> ok. I wonder how come windows has such a nice FREE easy program called WinRAR and linux your stuck with terminal based | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:56] <DaemonFC> WinRAR is not free | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:56] <DaemonFC> although it is frequently pirated | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:56] <DaemonFC> it costs $30 and it times out after 30 days | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:56] <DaemonFC> it's a secret proprietary format that holds your data hostage | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:57] <tango> i see. | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:57] <DaemonFC> and it's popular in the pirate scene just because they pirate the software that creates and unpacks RAR archives as well as all the rest of the stuff they pirate | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:57] <DaemonFC> Fedora doesn't promote piracy | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:57] <DaemonFC> and Fedora is not intended to be the premier distribution for software pirates | Mar 22 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why New Yorkers Should Be Wary About .NYC Websites http://goo.gl/TPFJK quick, register gunmonkey.nyc before @nybill :D | Mar 22 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Bodhi Linux, the Beautiful Configurable Lightweight Linux http://ur1.ca/8rfbp #BodhiLinux | Mar 22 20:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why New Yorkers Should Be Wary About .NYC Websites | paidContent .::. Size~: 44.72 KB | Mar 22 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bodhi Linux, the Beautiful Configurable Lightweight Linux | Linux.com .::. Size~: 44.18 KB | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:57] <tango> ok, so most .rar files are being used by software piracy? | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:58] <DaemonFC> in my experience it tends to be primarily used by pirates | Mar 22 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | [16:58] <tango> i see. | Mar 22 20:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 22 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Ubuntu should do a parody of #KungPow with a voiceover replacing every "chosen one" with "ubuntu one" | Mar 22 21:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb Sarkozy Seeks To Criminalize 'Habitually Visiting' Websites About Violence http://goo.gl/bSg4B that includes military sit ... | Mar 22 21:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] even remix scenes at random with their own voiceovers - the new #Downfall | Mar 22 21:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sarkozy Seeks To Criminalize 'Habitually Visiting' Websites About Violence | Techdirt .::. Size~: 60.81 KB | Mar 22 21:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/3/2012: KDevelop 4.3, Gentoo in Space http://ur1.ca/8rmrj #techrights | Mar 22 21:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 22/3/2012: KDevelop 4.3, Gentoo in Space | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.26 KB | Mar 22 21:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's so unlike a politician to hijack a tragic event to push their own agenda #Sarkozy - there wouldn't be an election coming would there? | Mar 22 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] you should probably unsub from this account and subscribe to http://status.jezra.net ... or not | Mar 22 21:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: jezra (jezra) - status.jezra.net .::. Size~: 44.88 KB | Mar 22 21:12 |
| formic_ | i probably need freebsd to be a hacker | Mar 22 21:12 |
| MinceR | i don't see why? | Mar 22 21:13 |
| MinceR | s/.$// | Mar 22 21:13 |
| formic_ | unix | Mar 22 21:13 |
| MinceR | that's hardly the only unix around | Mar 22 21:14 |
| formic_ | they must use it, its an echelon keyword | Mar 22 21:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 22 21:14 |
| formic_ | solaris, freebsd, netbsd, openbsd | Mar 22 21:14 |
| formic_ | openbsd would be elite | Mar 22 21:14 |
| MinceR | again, i don't see why | Mar 22 21:15 |
| formic_ | openbsd is known to be super secure | Mar 22 21:16 |
| MinceR | s/known/hyped/ | Mar 22 21:18 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Mar 22 21:18 |
| formic_ | dont think its hype | Mar 22 21:20 |
| MinceR | the conditions they've set make their claim meaningless | Mar 22 21:21 |
| formic_ | i dont doubt the canadians | Mar 22 21:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 5 Best Open Source Firewalls http://goo.gl/x4lNR #flosstools | Mar 22 21:23 | |
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| MinceR | i find appeal to nationality generally irrelevant | Mar 22 21:24 |
| formic_ | im not a globalist | Mar 22 21:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FBI explanation of missing Oklahoma City bombing tapes not credible, judge says | Deseret News http://goo.gl/R2g2p #okc #usa #falseflag | Mar 22 21:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FBI explanation of missing Oklahoma City bombing tapes not credible, judge says | Deseret News .::. Size~: 67.39 KB | Mar 22 21:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Eeek... sounds like he's counting the days @larryrusswurm Don’t Worry, 2030 Will Come At Long Last http://www.ur1.ca/8r9rh #humour | Mar 22 21:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Don’t Worry, 2030 Will Come At Long Last | The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 33.43 KB | Mar 22 21:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Report: Suspect in French Jewish school shooting visited #Israel - Haaretz http://goo.gl/cxlzR #falseflag #france | Mar 22 21:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Report: Suspect in French Jewish school shooting visited Israel - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News .::. Size~: 147.39 KB | Mar 22 21:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Breaking: French Constitutional Council bans judicial use of central biometrics ID database https://eff.org/r.4VH (French) #privacy | Mar 22 21:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carte d’identité: le fichage biométrique de toute la population finalement jugé contraire à la Constitution | desmotsdesfaits .::. Size~: 56.15 KB | Mar 22 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Breaking: French Constitutional Council bans judicial use of central biometrics ID database https://eff.org/r.4VH (French) #privacy | Mar 22 21:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carte d’identité: le fichage biométrique de toute la population finalement jugé contraire à la Constitution | desmotsdesfaits .::. Size~: 56.15 KB | Mar 22 21:45 |
| MinceR | so, nationalist then? | Mar 22 21:51 |
| formic_ | national socialist | Mar 22 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Tipped to be the hottest (no pun intended) selling iPad accessory this Xmas. ;) #ipad #apple http://ur1.ca/8rp1o | Mar 22 21:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file3.status.net/i/identica/openbytes-20120322T215145-3d6rcgh.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.41 KB | Mar 22 21:52 |
| formic_ | http://nspcanada.nfshost.com/ | Mar 22 21:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NSPC - The National-Socialist Party of Canada .::. Size~: 14.46 KB | Mar 22 21:52 |
| formic_ | lol j/k | Mar 22 21:52 |
| formic_ | theres a party for everything | Mar 22 21:52 |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: OpenBDSM | Mar 22 21:54 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 22 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | !google OpenBDSM | Mar 22 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - OpenBDSM.org | http://openbdsm.org/ | Mar 22 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Aggregator - Outside community | http://openbdsm.org/aggregator/ | Mar 22 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - OpenBDSM.org (@OpenBDSM) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/%23!/openbdsm | Mar 22 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - BDSM Webmaster - Fetish Traffic and BDSM Hardlinks | http://www.webmasterbdsm.com/ | Mar 22 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Mar 22 21:55 |
| formic_ | you're sick | Mar 22 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/OpenBSD | Mar 22 21:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenBSD - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 38.27 KB | Mar 22 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 22 21:55 |
| MinceR | national socialists would feel at home in hungary | Mar 22 21:55 |
| schestowitz | That's what I call a release party... NOT | Mar 22 21:56 |
| MinceR | !google wideopenbsd | Mar 22 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - h4h4 - remember the days when openbsd was still relevant? | http://wideopenbsd.org/ | Mar 22 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - rm my Mac - destructive hacking at its best | http://rm-my-mac.wideopenbsd.org/ | Mar 22 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - rm my Mac - Add SSH account | http://rm-my-mac.wideopenbsd.org/static_ssh.html | Mar 22 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - http://wideopenbsd.org/ old but yea (Page 1) - OpenBSD - BSDnexus ... | http://forums.bsdnexus.com/viewtopic.php%3Fid%3D48 | Mar 22 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I like their site icon | Mar 22 21:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @greve RT @bako Document Freedom Day at the EP: Open standards in the eBook market #DFD http://tighturl.com/4pof | Mar 22 22:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Democracies Die Behind Closed Doors: WikiLeaks & Center for Constitutional Rights demand open justice for Manning http://t.co/GD6UHtz8 | Mar 22 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Iceland’s public sector IT moves towards open source http://ur1.ca/8rpfz #iceland | Mar 22 22:02 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Mar 22 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Malaysia: Anwar accepts Wikileaks’ offer to debate Najib, RPK #Assange http://t.co/jrlQREI2 | Mar 22 22:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Privacy First publishes Dutch ID fraud figures for the first time, exposing gross exaggeration of problem https://eff.org/r.4VK (Dutch) | Mar 22 22:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Main - Malaysia - Anwar accepts Wikileaks’ offer to debate Najib, RPK @ Thu Mar 22 2012 .::. Size~: 54.37 KB | Mar 22 22:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Onthullende cijfers over 'look-alike' fraude met Nederlandse reisdocumenten .::. Size~: 33.55 KB | Mar 22 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ | Mar 22 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Mar 22 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Benchmarking BSD and Linux .::. Size~: 38.17 KB | Mar 22 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | "[Update Oct 22 2003]: While I received a lot of verbal abuse from OpenBSD users, " | Mar 22 22:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 22 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | because insulting people will make everyone forget about your lousy code | Mar 22 22:23 |
| MinceR | well, it works | Mar 22 22:23 |
| MinceR | people will remember how annoying they are before how bad their code is ;) | Mar 22 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Research Councils UK accepting feedback on its draft new Open Access policy. See Peter Suber's comments at http://goo.gl/bk7kG | Mar 22 22:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Peter Suber - Google+ - Comments on the RCUK's draft new OA policy Here are my… .::. Size~: 105.69 KB | Mar 22 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 2.6.34.11 http://ur1.ca/8rqt8 | Mar 22 22:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Stable kernel 2.6.34.11 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.55 KB | Mar 22 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | [18:42] <DaemonFC> well, Windows has a detrimental effect on the overall security of the entire internet | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:42] <DaemonFC> if someone wants to launch a ddos attack on me there's enough infected zombie Windows systems out there to do it millions of times over | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:43] <DaemonFC> and Microsoft wants ISPs to detect infected Windows zombies and cut them off from the internet | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:43] <DaemonFC> I got a warning letter from my ISP for using IRC over SSL | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:43] <DaemonFC> and I sent them back a letter reading them the riot act over that | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:43] <DaemonFC> and haven't heard from them since | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:43] <Subfusc> DaemonFC: seriously? | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> yep | Mar 22 22:50 |
| formic_ | openbsd has clean and tidy code tho | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:44] <Subfusc> DaemonFC: which backwash country do you live in? | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> google "AT&T irc warning letter" | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> it's not just me | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> although I did blog about it | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> the United States | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:45] <DaemonFC> I told them that if they terminated my account, that they could expect me to sue them | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:45] <Xard> sounds quite nasty business from the isp side | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:46] <DaemonFC> I think it was mostly them testing out some malicious sort of traffic analysis | Mar 22 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | [18:46] <DaemonFC> in advance of their MAFIAA deal that goes into effect in July | Mar 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | [18:47] <DaemonFC> I'm getting ready to dump AT&T | Mar 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | [18:47] <DaemonFC> probably by May | Mar 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | [18:47] <DaemonFC> switch to fiber optic and an ISP that hasn't signed the MAFIAA deal | Mar 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | [18:48] <DaemonFC> I suggest that anyone who knows what's good for them leave AT&T while the getting is good | Mar 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | [18:49] <DaemonFC> I think the crap is getting ready to hit the fan. If they're too incompetent to sort out legitimate IRC traffic from a Windows botnet, then what makes people think they're safe just because they don't pirate things? | Mar 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | [18:51] <Xard> DaemonFC: so it might not be that far away from white-list approach for the only identifiable traffic...? | Mar 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | [18:51] <DaemonFC> perhaps | Mar 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | [18:52] <DaemonFC> the US government wants to control the internet | Mar 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | [18:52] <Xard> it would be perfect solution for the cable-tv internet though | Mar 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | [18:52] <DaemonFC> and disconnect anyone they damned well please | Mar 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | [18:52] <DaemonFC> and if they can't make it the law, they'll just have the ISPs do it for them | Mar 22 22:52 |
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| nlightnd1 | hi | Mar 22 22:56 |
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| DaemonFC | [19:01] <Xard> i wonder how many terrorists have been caught with these measures :D | Mar 22 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | [19:02] <DaemonFC> Xard: Oh, at least one or two, of course the FBI had to groom them first and supply them with nonfunctional weapons and a fake bomb | Mar 22 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | [19:02] <DaemonFC> but just try to look past that and think the laws are doing something good | Mar 22 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | [19:02] <DaemonFC> B-) | Mar 22 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | [19:04] <DaemonFC> The April 1st bombing was foiled when the terrorist's FBI-supplied gun popped out a flag that said "BANG!", he was subsequently detained and sent to Cuba for torture | Mar 22 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | [19:04] <DaemonFC> B-) | Mar 22 23:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !gnu !linuxlibre 3.3-gnu, 3.2.12-gnu and 3.0.25-gnu mipsel .debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now available | Mar 22 23:05 | |
| MinceR | didn't they say that waterboarding was not torture? :> | Mar 22 23:13 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 22 23:13 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: ED has moved to sweeden | Mar 22 23:13 |
| XFaCE | http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Main_Page | Mar 22 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Main Page - Encyclopedia Dramatica .::. Size~: 31.77 KB | Mar 22 23:13 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to sebsebseb | Mar 22 23:14 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFC | Mar 22 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Waterboarding is great exercise, you get out there and catch some surf and.......oh, you mean CIA waterboarding | Mar 22 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | surf's up dude! | Mar 22 23:15 |
| XFaCE | choke | Mar 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | such an innocent term | Mar 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | water sports | Mar 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | emulating drowning | Mar 22 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | OH YES! YEEEEESSSSS *GARGLE GARGLE!* | Mar 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | you floss too? | Mar 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | good stuff, now off to bed you go | Mar 22 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | !google watersports | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - List of water sports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_water_sports | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Urolagnia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urolagnia | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bart's Water Sports, Wakeboards, Water Skis, Wetsuits, Water ... | http://www.bartswatersports.com/ | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Watersports - Water Slides, Ski Tubes, Trampolines | http://www.watersportsamerica.com/ | Mar 22 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 22 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | !google watersports slang | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - watersports Definition - The Online Slang Dictionary | http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/watersports | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - WATERSPORTS TRAINING MANUAL | http://home.swipnet.se/TSPvol3/wtm.html | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - I Love "Watersports" | Group with Personal Stories, Forums and Chat | http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Love-Watersports/34284 | Mar 22 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Urolagnia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urolagnia | Mar 22 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | [19:22] <DaemonFC> That reminds me of a joke. A guy looks out his window and sees a burglar breaking into his toolshed. He calls the police who tell him it will take a while to get out there because they don't have any units available. He hangs up, waits a minute, calls them back and says "You don't have to hurry, I just shot the guy". Five minutes later, dozens of police cruisers and a helicopter unit arrive to find the burglar still rummaging | Mar 22 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | through the shed. | Mar 22 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | [19:22] <DaemonFC> Police say to the guy "I thought you shot him", guy says "I thought you said you didn't have any available units" | Mar 22 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | [19:22] <DaemonFC> unfortunately, that's how the police really are | Mar 22 23:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447449 | Mar 22 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Vim? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/ #vim #linux #unix | Mar 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | "vi(m) is my preferred editor. It's an interesting rant. I think the writer's a vi user and is using reverse psychology to get others to use it. " | Mar 22 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Why Vim? | Terminally Incoherent .::. Size~: 96.96 KB | Mar 22 23:38 |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora has plans for a KDE Plasma Active spin | Mar 22 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | for Fedora 18 | Mar 22 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Justice For Trayvon? http://ur1.ca/8rsm4 | Mar 22 23:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Justice For Trayvon? - YouTube .::. Size~: 155.86 KB | Mar 22 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The latest batch of experiments looked at how one might cope with a mask closer than usual to the eye’s centre. I http://ur1.ca/8rsmi | Mar 22 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @importadoranon Spelling....learn how to get the ink | Mar 22 23:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Random Positions in GMDS- and FFM-based Analysis .::. Size~: 38.21 KB | Mar 22 23:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Turkish Government "Goes For #Gold"; Seeks To "Transfer" Private Gold Holdings Into Bank System | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/aPUEt | Mar 22 23:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Turkish Government "Goes For Gold"; Seeks To "Transfer" Private Gold Holdings Into Bank System | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 162.03 KB | Mar 22 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | !google libeatmydata | Mar 22 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - libeatmydata - disable fsync and SAVE! | http://www.flamingspork.com/projects/libeatmydata/ | Mar 22 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - libeatmydata in Launchpad | https://launchpad.net/libeatmydata | Mar 22 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - SkySQL: libeatmydata – Feed me, Seymour! | http://blogs.skysql.com/2011/05/libeatmydata-feed-me-seymour.html | Mar 22 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Linux Quirks: libeatmydata | http://linux-quirks.blogspot.com/2010/11/libeatmydata.html | Mar 22 23:58 |
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