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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@sirmacik Całuj ich po rękach, bo chcą zrobić z Tobą jakiś program, albo przynajmniej porozmawiać o takiej możliwości http://t.co/5xdQ5bRtNov 21 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zobacz: Bardzo niekulturalna odpowiedź - czyli jak nie odpowiadać na spam. - Wykop.pl .::. Size~: 15.98 KBNov 21 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kindle Fire HD 8.9 Teardown: A Samsung Tablet By Another Name? http://ur1.ca/b69wy #kindle #amazon #android #linuxNov 21 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kindle Fire HD 8.9 Teardown: A Samsung Tablet By Another Name? .::. Size~: 91.6 KBNov 21 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Our local wildlife is notoriously stingy when it comes to ponying up to pay for lobbyists. Bunnies aren't fiscally responsible. :(Nov 21 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] World’s Oldest Working Computer Has Been Resurrected http://ur1.ca/b6afb #Manchester boasts the first *programmable* computerNov 21 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The World's Oldest Working Computer Has Been Resurrected .::. Size~: 91 KBNov 21 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony coaxes indie Vita, Android developers with $99 SDK http://ur1.ca/b6amd #android #linux #SCOnyNov 21 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] Larry Lessig & Bob Massie speaking tonight neweconomicsinstitute.org - "role of internetz in just economy"Nov 21 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony coaxes indie Vita, Android developers with $99 SDK • The Register .::. Size~: 27.14 KBNov 21 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 14 “Nadia” released! http://ur1.ca/b68b5 #ubuntu #gnu #linux #noAmazon #noUnityNov 21 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Mint Blog  » Blog Archive   » Linux Mint 14 “Nadia” released! .::. Size~: 68.17 KBNov 21 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Report: Linux, Including Ubuntu, Faring Well on the Web http://ur1.ca/b6av0 "Linux, Including Ubuntu" is strange phrasingNov 21 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The Hackers of Damascus  - http://ur1.ca/b6axe +Simon Phip... http://b1t.it/csydNov 21 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report: Linux, Including Ubuntu, Faring Well on the Web | OStatic .::. Size~: 11.88 KBNov 21 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hackers of Damascus - Businessweek .::. Size~: 56.71 KBNov 21 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - The Hackers of Damascus  -… .::. Size~: 163.7 KBNov 21 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] Lessig says it is inside beltway vs outside that defines US politics, not Left vs Right #rootstrikers neweconomicsinstitute.orgNov 21 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Autonomy is a #fraud http://ur1.ca/b6azz I was once approached regarding a job there. #hp #uk #Nov 21 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP takes $8.8B charge on Autonomy 'improprieties' | Business Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 77.89 KBNov 21 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Research" as buzzword http://ur1.ca/b6b41Nov 21 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fed http://ur1.ca/b6b7b True or false? Other 'third party' candidates say the same about #TheFedNov 21 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be nice if occasionally opposition MPs gave credit where it's due when the govt do right, instead of intentionally spinning itNov 21 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RMS: "Geeks like to think they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." Truer now than ever.Nov 21 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US #predator #drones run #linux (reportedly) and suddenly software licences with "no war purpose" phrases start to make sense.Nov 21 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 35 minutes ago: Panetta Has a Few More #Drone Wars Ready to Go http://ur1.ca/b6bkp "attract young men and women to extremist ideologies"Nov 21 00:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leon Panetta Has a Few More Drone Wars Ready to Go | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 118.27 KBNov 21 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: RMS: "Geeks lk 2 think they cn ignore politics, U cn leave politics alone, but politics wnt leave U alone"Nov 21 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shooting ideologies to death, especially when the deaths are the cause of those ideologies, is a recursively-growing matter.Nov 21 00:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97996601Nov 21 00:31
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) في يوم Wednesday, 21-Nov-12 00:24:52 UTC - 280: @schestowitz I disagree. If we end #TheFed, we'll just have to replace it with something else.Nov 21 00:31
schestowitzSo maybe better to just reboot it, so as to get rid of revolving doors/entryism/coup at the very least?Nov 21 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is easier to shoot to death one's critics than to accept those critics' allegations about oneself and then change accordingly.Nov 21 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My !NaNoWriMo novel is way behind, so its time to do some serious catching up #amwritingNov 21 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @ggreenwald: Sometimes, governments at war target journalists, sometimes hit them by accident - it's a story either way.Nov 21 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Saying that #drones kill people other than the target misses an important point. Where the targets trialled? Who are they? What crimes?Nov 21 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Insistence on calling all grown men "militants" only reaffirms the belief that just to be Arab and hang around particular people is a crime.Nov 21 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Speaking for myself, I never subscribed into the whole "women and children" as the victim; grown men too can be sorely innocent victims.Nov 21 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Women and children" are used for poltiical purposes; they're emotional blackmail & both sides exploit them, photographing corpses 4 agendaNov 21 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I can accept that what makes children unique in war is that they hardly "chose" (in an informed way) a side; some adults don't, either. [..]Nov 21 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [..] nowadays, as longevity lets us live ~80 years in the West, an adult dying can arguably be worse than kids. Adults are parents to kids.Nov 21 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sayiing you pass law to protect "kids" is a lie; Those who pass laws fear the adults--those who can protest, rebel, access more informationNov 21 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Politicians who say they pass laws to protect kids are chronic, P-C, villainous liars. They're no different than males on the Titanic.Nov 21 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today Miss Kroes decided to liaise with shady people from the Military Industrial Complex and restrict the Internet to protect "kids" (us).Nov 21 00:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97996666Nov 21 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Nov-12 00:30:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I never thought technology was an excuse to forget the rest of the world anyway, but then I'm more like RMS's ageNov 21 00:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97996782Nov 21 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr@X11R5 (x11r5)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Nov-12 00:42:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Chose the option to download mobi preview to check in precisely 24 hours from my flight... And i'm already #9 on the sideNov 21 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great profile in Wired of MIT Media Lab director and CC board chair @Joi Ito. http://bit.ly/TWMHMfNov 21 00:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open university: Joi Ito plans a radical reinvention of MIT's Media Lab (Wired UK) .::. Size~: 84.08 KBNov 21 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Air Force protects its kids from... well, http://ur1.ca/b6d0a can't afford the risk of them refusing orders to bombNov 21 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Air Force cutting off access to WikiLeaks news - CNN.com .::. Size~: 65.79 KBNov 21 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] Lessig talk good:, wish he put more energy into recruiting people, building a movememt and embracing leadership. #rootstrikersNov 21 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Rebuttal to ‘The Patent System’s Not Broken’http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/11/the-patent-system-works-fine-be... http://b1t.it/csyGNov 21 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Page Not Found | Wired Opinion | Wired.com .::. Size~: 97.56 KBNov 21 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Rebuttal to ‘The Patent System’s Not Broken’ … .::. Size~: 164.01 KBNov 21 00:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124430Nov 21 00:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US #predator #drones run #linux (reportedly) and suddenly software licences with "no war purpose" phrases start to make sense.Nov 21 00:54
schestowitz"Nov 21 00:55
schestowitzYep ....... in the end they can get away with it and not blame any other O/S for its part in a WAR that was never LEGAL ...... maybe it should have been patented early on - then war would never have got out of the LAW COURTS ........Nov 21 00:55
schestowitzThey would still be fighting a patent to see who had the first PATENT for a exploding device.Nov 21 00:55
schestowitzBut they used what was one of the only things that brings people together to share things - to run military drones that they do not want hacking ....... makes sense.Nov 21 00:55
schestowitzBut will Linux then go down as the secure system that helped them out in their WAR activities against the people .........Nov 21 00:55
schestowitzNO WAR PURPOSE .........Nov 21 00:55
schestowitzWe all ought to follow this rule ......... we have no WAR PURPOSE .........Nov 21 00:55
schestowitz"Nov 21 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The idea that women and children should be helped off a sinking ship first died with the Titanic." http://ur1.ca/b6d5j it's not P-C.Nov 21 00:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Women and Children First? Not Anymore : Discovery News .::. Size~: 57.51 KBNov 21 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Stratfor computer systems... classified information to Wikileaks." http://ur1.ca/b6dks http://ur1.ca/b6dkv known as "The Shadow CIA"Nov 21 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Occupy' Chicago Rallies For NATO 5, Wikileaks Hacker .::. Size~: 68.94 KBNov 21 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stratfor wikileaks - Ixquick Web Search .::. Size~: 73.45 KBNov 21 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CIA cracks into systems to gather information (and murder too). But it's a crime to get information on the CIA, which has no oversight.Nov 21 01:04
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124264Nov 21 01:07
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: 6 Preloaded Linux PCs For Your 2012 Holiday Wishlist  https://www.linux.com/news/hardware/desktops/669578-6-preloaded-linux-pcs-for-your-2012-holiday-wishlist #gnu #linuxNov 21 01:07
schestowitz"Always good to see more places selling linux boxes."Nov 21 01:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: 6 Preloaded Linux PCs For Your 2012 Holiday Wishlist | Linux.com .::. Size~: 49.4 KBNov 21 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] In the debate over copyright policy, Congress should hear from more than just the content lobby. https://eff.org/r.a8re #fixcopyrightNov 21 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #cia drones are computerised death panels http://ur1.ca/b3nml like ethnic cleansing, but based on other criteriaNov 21 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Congress Shouldn't Debate Copyright in a Reality-Free Zone | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 41.76 KBNov 21 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ban ‘Killer Robots’ Before It’s Too Late | Human Rights Watch .::. Size~: 66.92 KBNov 21 01:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124430Nov 21 01:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US #predator #drones run #linux (reportedly) and suddenly software licences with "no war purpose" phrases start to make sense.Nov 21 01:15
schestowitzhttp://www.auburn.edu/~vestmon/robotics.htmlNov 21 01:15
schestowitzYep already gone beyond the first LAW .......Nov 21 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" .::. Size~: 0.79 KBNov 21 01:15
schestowitzIsaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics"Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz    *Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz      A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz    *Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz      A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz    *Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz      A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.Nov 21 01:15
schestowitz"Nov 21 01:15
Diablo-D3there are four laws, not threeNov 21 01:15
Diablo-D3"A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm"Nov 21 01:16
Diablo-D3the zeroth law.Nov 21 01:16
schestowitz"Time to dust off Asimov's Laws of Robotics?"Nov 21 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Help end the war in #Afghanistan http://ur1.ca/b6esq endless war drives the Military Industrial ComplexNov 21 01:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Help end the war in Afghanistan .::. Size~: 23.61 KBNov 21 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No nation is at war with #Pakistan -- Drones have no nationality, duh.Nov 21 01:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97997165Nov 21 01:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Al-Scandar Solstag (solstag)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Nov-12 01:20:12 UTC - Identi.ca: on this topic... http://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIYNov 21 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This Land Is Mine http://ur1.ca/b6fdc great stuff, applies to many places in the worldNov 21 01:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This Land Is Mine - YouTube .::. Size~: 118.38 KBNov 21 01:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2123985Nov 21 01:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk #siege on #assange prevents him from speaking to public http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/20/julian-assange-wikileaks-cambridge-cancelled_n_2165098.html? http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Assanges-Cambridge-talk-cancelled-28KPF?opendocument&src=rss  http://www.news.com.au/news/technical-issues-sees-julian-assange-talk-axed/story-fnejlrpu-1226520821595Nov 21 01:35
schestowitz"Who is this?!"Nov 21 01:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Julian Assange: WikiLeaks Founder Cambridge Union Talk Cancelled For 'Technical Reasons' .::. Size~: 308.23 KBNov 21 01:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Assange's Cambridge talk cancelled | News | Business Spectator .::. Size~: 59.1 KBNov 21 01:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Assange talk axed on 'tech grounds' | News.com.au .::. Size~: 78.3 KBNov 21 01:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124444Nov 21 01:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Speaking for myself, I never subscribed into the whole "women and children" as the victim; grown men too can be sorely innocent victims.Nov 21 01:35
schestowitz"Well, women and children are being used in these grand manipulations we are seeing everyday. It appeals to emotions, not to the reason itself."Nov 21 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The People Who Support #Linux: Brazilian Developer Hacks Health Care with #BeagleBoard and #Android http://ur1.ca/b6fjcNov 21 01:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The People Who Support Linux: Brazilian Developer Hacks Health Care with BeagleBoard and Android | Linux.com .::. Size~: 40.35 KBNov 21 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3 steps http://ur1.ca/b6fweNov 21 01:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2010: "only 45 percent of Americans are satisfied with their work." http://ur1.ca/b6g0hNov 21 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Survey: More Americans Unhappy at Work - CBS News .::. Size~: 108.76 KBNov 21 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Just 13 percent of you responded that you were “completely content” in your job." http://ur1.ca/b6g4m engineering infamous in this regardNov 21 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] Lessig asks: Can the Internet give us something w/out us having to give back? Can people sacrifice convenience for privacy, freedom control?Nov 21 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Engineers not generally happy at work .::. Size~: 121.36 KBNov 21 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Over time, fewerand fewer people own (fully or partially) their businesses (extinction of the small/middle), so dissatisfaction follows.Nov 21 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The appeal to so-called "job creators" is essentially the growing dependence in society on wealth robber barons, who also buy law/politics.Nov 21 01:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: the lawas of robots, that's Irobot stuffNov 21 01:57
schestowitzirobot?Nov 21 01:57
sebsebsebyepNov 21 01:58
sebsebsebhaven't you seen it?Nov 21 01:58
sebsebsebschestowitz: I guess your to busy denting and blogging Linux and what not stuff, so don't have time for many films heh hehNov 21 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #obama won't make a New Deal; there is not much in it for *private* corporations. He'll just bail out those who become affluent by debting.Nov 21 01:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: IrobotNov 21 01:59
sebsebseba Will Smith filmNov 21 01:59
sebsebseb!google irobotNov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - iRobot Corporation: Robots that Make a Difference | http://www.irobot.com/Nov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - iRobot Home Cleaning Robots: Vacuuming, Floor Washing, Pool ... | http://store.irobot.com/Nov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Amazon.com iRobot: Roomba, robotic vacuums, robotic bare-floor ... | http://www.amazon.com/Roomba-Kitchen-Housewares/b%3Fie%3DUTF8%26node%3D10287641Nov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - iRobot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRobotNov 21 02:00
sebsebseb!google Roy SchestowitzNov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Nov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Techrights | http://techrights.org/author/schestowitz/Nov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) on Twitter | https://twitter.com/schestowitzNov 21 02:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-4010022241/Nov 21 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When #gop (or #teaparty ) speaks of so-called "job creators" it is promoting privatisation of tne nation (which the population once owned).Nov 21 02:00
schestowitzWhen plutocrats claim to be "giving back" (to those whom they rob) they look to justify their tax exemptions & privatise everything using PRi hate Will SmithNov 21 02:01
schestowitzhe's pretentious and proud of itNov 21 02:01
schestowitzand he's also very stupid and spreads his stupidity like it's a meritNov 21 02:01
schestowitzOp[rah does that alsoNov 21 02:01
schestowitzBTW, Oprah sold out to MSFT again, based on a report I saw todayNov 21 02:01
schestowitzLarry King is another stoogeNov 21 02:01
schestowitzhe promotes also alient k00ks and their stuff cause it brings good ratings on TVNov 21 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When plutocrats claim to be "giving back" (to those whom they rob) they look to justify their tax exemptions & privatise everything using PRNov 21 02:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97997550Nov 21 02:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Ralph Baumfalk (paddler)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Nov-12 01:56:02 UTC - Identi.ca: WoW! Videomaker Nina Paley is a genius. Thanks for posting this link.Nov 21 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/11/2012: GNU/Linux Preinstalled on More Systems, Linux Rootkit Claimed http://ur1.ca/b6hsq #techrightsNov 21 02:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] '“WikiLeaks made us stronger,” Correa told the whistleblowing site’s boss.' http://ur1.ca/b0n7hNov 21 02:42
schestowitzhttp://www.globalpost.com/globalpost-blogs/southeast-asia/obama-sos-cambodiaNov 21 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NSA refuses to declassify Obama’s cybersecurity directive http://ur1.ca/b6inl #secret services come before everyoneNov 21 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "United States forces to be stationed in Australia, and it is not being made public, according to the government" http://ur1.ca/b6j2cNov 21 03:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US military bases in the world 2007 http://ur1.ca/b6j4x military presence is assurance of power being imposedNov 21 03:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2107421Nov 21 03:07
schestowitz"Me too, but mostly after I get the video with clive. Lately, I've been just watching a few videos but I should stop that. If it's not worth downloading, it's probably not worth watching."Nov 21 03:07
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124430Nov 21 03:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US #predator #drones run #linux (reportedly) and suddenly software licences with "no war purpose" phrases start to make sense.Nov 21 03:08
schestowitz"Try opening about:robots in Firefox."Nov 21 03:08
schestowitz"Nov 21 03:08
schestowitzhttp://www.firefoxfacts.com/2008/04/08/aboutrobots/Nov 21 03:08
schestowitzok cheersNov 21 03:08
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schestowitz"Nov 21 03:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2107421Nov 21 03:08
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Mozilla publicly announces the open-source Flash-renderer Mozilla-sponsored Shumway project http://www.iloveubuntu.net/mozilla-publicly-announces-open-source-flash-renderer-mozilla-sponsored-shumway-project #adobetrashNov 21 03:08
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Mozilla publicly announces the open-source Flash-renderer Mozilla-sponsored Shumway project | Iloveubuntu: Ubuntu blog .::. Size~: 33.38 KBNov 21 03:08
schestowitz"Me too, but mostly after I get the video with clive. Lately, I've been just watching a few videos but I should stop that. If it's not worth downloading, it's probably not worth watching."Nov 21 03:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2121885Nov 21 03:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Palestinian #fakesNov 21 03:09
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by vladze@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_815d6d76814b271126fd.jpgNov 21 03:09
schestowitz"Nov 21 03:10
schestowitzEvil can be measured in murder. Operation Cast Lead - "The conflict resulted in between 1,166 and 1,417 Palestinian and 13 Israeli deaths (4 from friendly fire).[52] According to the Shin Bet, after the conflict, there was a decrease in Palestinian rocket attacks" Rocket attacks have killed about 50 people in the last decade. Nov 21 03:10
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket Images can be looked at as fakes and propaganda or as artistic statements. Dead women and children can only be buried and mourned. Are we really going to sit quietly as thousands of people are killed an maimed?Nov 21 03:10
schestowitzIt's just stupid. That Israel is considering another invasion is proof that Cast Lead and apartheid are failed policies.Nov 21 03:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gaza War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 691.39 KBNov 21 03:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qassam rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 68.61 KBNov 21 03:10
schestowitz#ReligiousInsanity #racism #murderNov 21 03:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I had no *.cue! ♻ @cwebber: *.iso what you did there.Nov 21 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !NaNoWriMo Day 20: 25742 words so far #tomorrowisanotherdayNov 21 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt Why privacy-by-default is necessary http://ur1.ca/b6o3z /via @webminkNov 21 04:57
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DaemonFCthrowing out all the junk I don't want to take with me when I move next weekNov 21 05:12
DaemonFCI guess I should run up to Walmart and see if they'll give me some boxesNov 21 05:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] CPF site is down? In the middle of the week? http://ur1.ca/b6si4Nov 21 06:20
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DaemonFCschestowitz: My stepdad is considering running for a seat on the county councilNov 21 06:34
DaemonFCmeh, I'd vote for himNov 21 06:34
DaemonFCI don't think anyone could screw things up the way the current group hasNov 21 06:35
DaemonFChttps://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/11/19-3Nov 21 06:36
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13jwmv/moscow_bans_protest_against_political_repressions/Nov 21 07:49
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DaemonFCJill Stein got 532 votes in IndianaNov 21 07:51
DaemonFCout of 2,623,701Nov 21 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] W Wasilkowie k/Białegostoku na spotkaniu Interkl@sy - będę mówił o otwartych zasobach edukacyjnych, e-podręcznikach i WiOO. !fwiooNov 21 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121120 -http://bit.ly/TPfgJb yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDNov 21 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] #Stuxnet's Infection Of Chevron Shows Why 'Weaponized' #Malware Is A Bad Idea - http://bit.ly/XyA6ot just in case you had any doubtsNov 21 08:19
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DaemonFCMinceR: Why would you need to protest if there's lack of political repression?Nov 21 08:22
DaemonFCmakes sense to me! :)Nov 21 08:22
DaemonFCI said......LACK OF POLITICAL REPRESSION!Nov 21 08:22
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DaemonFC:DNov 21 08:22
DaemonFCwouldn't you agree?Nov 21 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3D Systems Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against Formlabs And Kickstarter - http://bit.ly/TfoyCa why kickstarter too? (v @sinkdeep)Nov 21 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Data isn’t just the new oil, it’s the new money. Ask Zoë Keating - http://bit.ly/UezosS interesting pointsNov 21 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #OpenData Can Save Money - and Lives - http://bit.ly/USrX78 which is why we need more of it #clinicaldata #drugsNov 21 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Was It #Poland That Led The European Revolt Against #ACTA? - http://bit.ly/RT7fFv an important questionNov 21 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Student doesn't want to be RFID-tagged; gets expelled; fights in court! bit.ly/USsrKF #USANov 21 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @glynmoody: Why Was It #Poland That Led The European Revolt Against #ACTA? - http://bit.ly/RT7fFv an important question #ObiegiKulturyNov 21 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple broke some guy's iPhone, refuses to fix: http://identi.ca/url/74261666Nov 21 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Elon Musk and the Hyperloop http://identi.ca/url/74261673Nov 21 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] You are committing a crime right now http://identi.ca/url/74261680Nov 21 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] After some tweaks, and a Nvidia blob from a PPA, Unity is finally working on #Ubuntu 12.10 without glitches on my Acer Aspire7220 #bugsNov 21 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Yesterday I removed "Anounymous" from my Soundclick and Youtobe pages. Can't support a club that attacks #Israel /w a straight face!Nov 21 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Today working on a new song #PillarOfDefence to show my support for #IsraelNov 21 09:39
iophkhttp://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/190982/yes-were-responsible-for-the-paula-broadwell-all-up-in-my-snatch-meme/Nov 21 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: België: Topvrouw Saskia Van Uffelen wordt 'Digital Champion' http://t.co/QvartjZI via @DeMorgenNov 21 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: #Armonia hub to use pan-European licensing to bring 5m+ works to 500m+ people http://t.co/clVVbUK1Nov 21 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: #Armonia a good step forward. But music licensing should be easier across borders. http://t.co/xU8ueeEtNov 21 10:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124629Nov 21 10:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US military bases in the world 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.svg military presence is assurance of power being imposedNov 21 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Hamas attacked Israel, who is merely protecting its civilians. Not a right, but a duty! Why do people fall for the Jihadist propaganda?Nov 21 10:59
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schestowitz"That's not as bad as I thought it was. The real projection of power is naval and that's only implied on the map."Nov 21 10:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124184Nov 21 11:00
TechrightsBot-tr@whirli@joindiaspora.com: Should I upgrade to #Windows8? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack/2012/nov/15/should-upgrade-microsoft-windows-8 Who is this Jack and how much money did he get for this advert? #ffs #windowss #microsoftNov 21 11:00
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schestowitz"It is generally best to wait until the first service pack has been released before upgrading to a new OS version. It fixes major bugs that come with a new OS version. Microsoft #Windows8"Nov 21 11:00
schestowitziophk: I have a post about Portgular comingNov 21 11:01
schestowitzI just gather more linksNov 21 11:01
schestowitzno point reposting one silly link, .e.g. to Updgrove, it controbutes nothing newsNov 21 11:01
schestowitz*newNov 21 11:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2124430Nov 21 11:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US #predator #drones run #linux (reportedly) and suddenly software licences with "no war purpose" phrases start to make sense.Nov 21 11:02
schestowitz"@Shmerl: Thanks for the laugh. I love nerds."Nov 21 11:02
schestowitzHeh.  Good one from Shmerl.Nov 21 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Evildoers can now turn all sites on a Linux server into silent hell-pits http://ur1.ca/b74qx #linux #gnu #serverNov 21 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Life as furniture http://ur1.ca/b7500Nov 21 11:24
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iophk http://www.muktware.com/4855/microsoft-holding-keys-linux-foundations-secure-boot-solutionNov 21 11:31
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oiaohmiophk: really I think it might have MS with a headache.Nov 21 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Life in other planets http://ur1.ca/b75acNov 21 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Business Party #politics http://ur1.ca/b75c0Nov 21 11:32
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oiaohmiophk: because the only way I can see for universal support is if MS does sign it with there master key.Nov 21 11:33
iophkUEFI is only about making it hard to impossible for casual users to try out LinuxNov 21 11:33
oiaohmiophk: Linux foundation might have MS snookered.Nov 21 11:33
iophkI don't see how LF can benefit from any dealings with M$Nov 21 11:34
oiaohmSince they did promise to sign loaders that would work everywhere.Nov 21 11:34
oiaohmAnd i cannot work out how MS can do this without using there master key.Nov 21 11:34
iophkM$ can renig on the promise, it has in  the pastNov 21 11:34
oiaohmNow if any one of those loaders is breached.Nov 21 11:34
Diablo-D3wellNov 21 11:34
Diablo-D3the thing really isNov 21 11:34
oiaohmiophk: this case no.Nov 21 11:34
Diablo-D3people are just going to buy chromeOS devices and load linux o nthemNov 21 11:35
Diablo-D3so microsoft is just killing themselvesNov 21 11:35
Diablo-D3which is lolNov 21 11:35
oiaohmiophk: it is a legally binding contract they have to provide.Nov 21 11:35
iophkUEFI devices are not labeled as suck AFAIKNov 21 11:35
Diablo-D3btw, uefi isnt the problem you think it isNov 21 11:35
oiaohmThe recent benchmarks on a 250 chrome OS device runing android was very well.Nov 21 11:35
iophkyet they are ending up in storesNov 21 11:35
oiaohmand ubuntuNov 21 11:35
Diablo-D3many uefi devices still boot legacy bios OSesNov 21 11:35
Diablo-D3and they also boot unsigned OSesNov 21 11:35
oiaohmiophk: all current generation UFI contain legacy mode.Nov 21 11:36
Diablo-D3efi is not required for x86-64Nov 21 11:36
oiaohmiophk: interesting enough the return to that if you insert a blank handdrive and remove the windwos 8 one.Nov 21 11:36
Diablo-D3there are lots of x86-64 devices that never had efiNov 21 11:36
oiaohmEFI is need for many reasons.Nov 21 11:37
Diablo-D3oiaohm: no it isntNov 21 11:37
Diablo-D3efi is not needed for any reasonNov 21 11:37
oiaohmone legacy bios cannot support some of the size harddrives we will have soon.Nov 21 11:37
schestowitzhttps://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_49b5c28269015f6a74ef.jpgNov 21 11:37
oiaohmDiablo-D3: o yes it is.Nov 21 11:37
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Diablo-D3no it isnt.Nov 21 11:37
Diablo-D3also, re size: its not the SIZE of the hd that mattersNov 21 11:37
oiaohmthe old MBR solution is going to break Diablo-D3Nov 21 11:37
Diablo-D3its the first partition sizeNov 21 11:37
Diablo-D3oiaohm: not really.Nov 21 11:38
Diablo-D3by the time that matters we'll all be using ARM on the desktop.Nov 21 11:38
oiaohmold MBR includes a 32 bit entry for size of drive.Nov 21 11:38
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and that only effects bootingNov 21 11:38
Diablo-D3I can use guid hds on non-efi machinesNov 21 11:39
Diablo-D3up to the point I can put grub on a usb stick.Nov 21 11:39
Diablo-D3and still boot the hdNov 21 11:39
oiaohmNext issue in hardware with bios can come from multi initailsation.Nov 21 11:41
oiaohmEFI address that problem as well.Nov 21 11:41
Diablo-D3its not an issueNov 21 11:41
Diablo-D3x86 can already cold boot in 10 seconds without efi.Nov 21 11:42
oiaohmDiablo-D3: there are reasons why we need to leave legacy bios behind.Nov 21 11:42
Diablo-D3oiaohm: no there isntNov 21 11:42
oiaohmBut I will give that EFI could have been done cleaner.Nov 21 11:42
Diablo-D3efi isnt openfirmware and never will beNov 21 11:42
oiaohmTo be correct it is.Nov 21 11:42
Diablo-D3its not happening, so quit thinking it will happenNov 21 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Morning belief http://ur1.ca/b75nmNov 21 11:42
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Diablo-D3intel lied.Nov 21 11:42
Diablo-D3intel fucked up.Nov 21 11:42
Diablo-D3quit trying to shill for a dying companyNov 21 11:42
oiaohmopenfirmware provided another way of starting up with running the legacy code from hell.Nov 21 11:43
Diablo-D3openfirmware was invented 20 years agoNov 21 11:43
Diablo-D3its too late for x86 to adpot itNov 21 11:43
Diablo-D3x86 is dead.Nov 21 11:43
oiaohmHey lets init this stuff for 16 bit mode.Nov 21 11:43
oiaohmas the old bios requiredNov 21 11:43
oiaohmThen OS never wants to use it.Nov 21 11:43
Diablo-D3oiaohm: also, legacy bios does NOT require thatNov 21 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hughes at #QPR outlasting DiMatteo at #Chelsea? even with Roman & his itchy trigger finger, whodathunkit? #footballNov 21 11:44
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and what your problem is you dont realize _I can already stuff linux in the goddamned firmware_Nov 21 11:44
oiaohmDiablo-D3: O yes it does in places.Nov 21 11:44
Diablo-D3see, thats where you people get shit wrongNov 21 11:44
Diablo-D3and it pisses me offNov 21 11:44
Diablo-D3does ARM need a bios? noNov 21 11:44
Diablo-D3the OS does everythingNov 21 11:44
oiaohmDiablo-D3: again that is not using legacy bios.Nov 21 11:44
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yet it is on legacy bios machines.Nov 21 11:45
Diablo-D3so clearly its not a hardware problemNov 21 11:45
oiaohmNot all hardware can you do Linux in firmware.Nov 21 11:45
Diablo-D3no, but a lot I canNov 21 11:46
oiaohmsince some of that hardware is badly designed in the x86 world.Nov 21 11:46
Diablo-D3yes it isNov 21 11:46
Diablo-D3so why do you ocntinue to push x86Nov 21 11:46
Diablo-D3x86 is deadNov 21 11:46
oiaohmHey lets not have a cpu fan control lets hide this functionality in smm mode inside the x86Nov 21 11:46
Diablo-D3its been dying for the past decade, and now it is dead.Nov 21 11:46
oiaohmSo there is a lot of functionality on x86 pushed inside the x86 cpu that really should be in its own min controller.Nov 21 11:47
Diablo-D3its not in the cpuNov 21 11:47
oiaohmYes some x86 motherboards cause the cpu to lock up the cpu fan stops.Nov 21 11:47
oiaohmwhat a brilent idea.Nov 21 11:47
Diablo-D3thats not in the cpu howeverNov 21 11:48
Diablo-D3and its not if the cpu fan stopsNov 21 11:48
Diablo-D3its if the cpu temp goes above a certain amountNov 21 11:48
oiaohmDiablo-D3: some of the boards.  the i2c temp controller is read by the smm mode in the x86Nov 21 11:48
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, but you dont realize whats going onNov 21 11:49
oiaohmDiablo-D3: that then sends a update to say hwo fast the cpu fan should spin.Nov 21 11:49
oiaohmDiablo-D3: if it sends nothing the fan stops.Nov 21 11:49
Diablo-D3the cpu thermometer is in the cpuNov 21 11:49
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, and that has nothing to do with safety haltsNov 21 11:49
Diablo-D3but nice trolling there.Nov 21 11:49
oiaohmDiablo-D3: yes on a i2c bus in some.Nov 21 11:49
MinceRoiaohm: EFI is not the right way to "leave legacy firmware behind"Nov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3yes, the i2c bus is how the OS communicates typicallyNov 21 11:50
MinceRit only makes things worseNov 21 11:50
MinceRtry coreboot instead.Nov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3MinceR: it would if it was a valid openfirmware implNov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3but openfirmware has no futureNov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3but thats a completely different issueNov 21 11:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2125418Nov 21 11:50
TechrightsBot-tr@katane@joindiaspora.com: ### [Ohloh](http://www.ohloh.net/)   Discover, track and compare open source projects   #linux #opensourceNov 21 11:50
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Diablo-D3if x86 used openfirmware since day one, shit would be fineNov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3or even x86-64Nov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3but EFI is not openfirmwareNov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3you cannot use a standard openfirmware OS on EFINov 21 11:50
Diablo-D3you CAN on sparc and ppcNov 21 11:51
schestowitzOhloh, founded by Microsoft staff and acquired by a company created by Microsoft marketing staff, tends to promote C# projects, so watch out.Nov 21 11:51
oiaohmI did not say safety halts.Nov 21 11:51
MinceREFI is horribly bloated and supports OS lock-inNov 21 11:51
oiaohmDiablo-D3: the fault I am talking abotu the cpu does not power down.Nov 21 11:51
oiaohmDiablo-D3: it complete just burns out.Nov 21 11:51
Diablo-D3oiaohm: okay, good for it.Nov 21 11:51
Diablo-D3dont care.Nov 21 11:51
Diablo-D3no amd or intel cpu does thisNov 21 11:51
Diablo-D3so trolololololNov 21 11:51
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and ohloh is owned by black duck software nowNov 21 11:52
oiaohmDiablo-D3: some intel boards can.Nov 21 11:52
Diablo-D3erNov 21 11:52
Diablo-D3schestowitzNov 21 11:52
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Not intel chipset.Nov 21 11:52
oiaohmDiablo-D3: it saved a bit if circuit.Nov 21 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MP demands apology after abusive tweets are traced to Wonga employee http://goo.gl/WHRLXNov 21 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @ChrisRiedell: somehow just now discovering @publicdomainrev & I'm completely obsessedNov 21 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @COAR_eV: Latest news: euroCRIS and COAR join forces building up a mutual partnership http://t.co/ucLxheR4Nov 21 11:52
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: microsoft founded it in 2004, it was a failure, geeknet (aka sourceforge) bought it in 2009, couldnt make it work, then sold it to black duck in 2010Nov 21 11:52
Diablo-D3schestowitz: so dont slander ohloh because you have some weird boner over your ballmer hateNov 21 11:53
Diablo-D3oiaohm: if you're using a non-intel chipset on intel cpus THATS YOUR OWN FAULTNov 21 11:53
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and such a thing has not existed for quite some timeNov 21 11:53
MinceRiirc black duck served m$ tooNov 21 11:53
Diablo-D3MinceR: noNov 21 11:53
Diablo-D3black duck does a lot of enterprise code development sales that are foss focusedNov 21 11:54
oiaohmDiablo-D3: the non-intel chipsets for intel chips still exist.  I will give you not common.  You do find them in some ASUS gammer boards.Nov 21 11:55
iophkfud focusedNov 21 11:55
Diablo-D3fud focused if you think bruce perens isnt a fucktardNov 21 11:55
schestowitzDiablo-D3: okNov 21 11:55
iophkHe's not in Black Duck is he?Nov 21 11:55
iophkHe's been against the BS that is Black DuckNov 21 11:56
iophkhttp://techrights.org/2012/11/06/perens-on-gpl-fud/Nov 21 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bruce Perens Accuses Black Duck of B.S. on GPL | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.15 KBNov 21 11:56
Diablo-D3iophk: no, hes attacked black duck in the past because black duck has used ohloh data to claim that theres more new BSD projects than GPL projectsNov 21 11:56
oiaohmDiablo-D3: some of that overclocking alterations to chipsets see some evil hacks.Nov 21 11:56
Diablo-D3iophk: so basically bruce parens tried to fox news black duckNov 21 11:56
Diablo-D3oiaohm: nvidia was the last vendor of intel northbridges, and they quit like 4-5 years agoNov 21 11:56
Diablo-D3oiaohm: also, any mobo manuf hacks to their own firmwares are their own problem Nov 21 11:57
Diablo-D3oiaohm: intel is not responsible for broken behaviorNov 21 11:57
MinceR"data" from a site run by former micro$erfs? how convenient.Nov 21 11:58
Diablo-D3MinceR: data that people like you and me enter.Nov 21 11:58
Diablo-D3ohloh is sorta like a web 2.0 version of freshmeatNov 21 11:58
MinceRis that the official party line then?Nov 21 11:59
Diablo-D3have you used ohloh?Nov 21 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] yay! commit notifications are back on irc. really missed those things :) also -> taking an email free day today.Nov 21 11:59
iophkohloh was a failed M$ siteNov 21 11:59
Diablo-D3its self evident how it worksNov 21 11:59
Diablo-D3iophk: yeah it wasNov 21 11:59
oiaohmDiablo-D3: You will notice boards with blacked out intel chips.   If you go over the chipset you will normally find 1 or 2 chips change with other vendor solutions.Nov 21 11:59
oiaohmDiablo-D3: so they are no longer a pure intel chipset.Nov 21 11:59
iophkno one serious uses itNov 21 11:59
Diablo-D3oiaohm: thats basically bullshitNov 21 11:59
oiaohmDiablo-D3: common chip replaced is power management.Nov 21 11:59
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, lots of boards use dedicated VRM management chipsNov 21 12:00
oiaohmDiablo-D3: no its not bullshit.Nov 21 12:00
Diablo-D3this has nothing to do with anything you've discussedNov 21 12:00
MinceRtomorrow, on Diablo-D3: CodePlex confirms GPL is dying!Nov 21 12:00
Diablo-D3so trolololololol.Nov 21 12:00
oiaohmDiablo-D3: In fact it does.Nov 21 12:00
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, and if codeplex is using their own numbers to claim that the number of new BSD projects being made exceeds the number of GPL projects being made, and this is exactly what they claim, you cant fox news them because you dont like the numbers.Nov 21 12:00
oiaohmDiablo-D3: what I am talkign about is that chip and others basically turned into slave chips.Nov 21 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A dystopian future: #drones and 'killer robots' creating terror http://ur1.ca/b76b2Nov 21 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A dystopian future: drones and 'killer robots' creating terror - Blog - Public Service Europe .::. Size~: 42.59 KBNov 21 12:00
Diablo-D3MinceR: and yes, Im aware that codeplex is microsoftNov 21 12:01
Diablo-D3you cant just fox news somebody because you dont like themNov 21 12:01
Diablo-D3it makes you just as wrong as they areNov 21 12:01
MinceRDiablo-D3: and i'm aware that you don't care that these shell sites are all m$Nov 21 12:01
oiaohmDiablo-D3: No longer with means to self process.Nov 21 12:01
Diablo-D3microsoft is a dying Nov 21 12:01
MinceRand you don't seem to realize that that skews the "data"Nov 21 12:01
Diablo-D3oiaohm: you cant access the goddamend VRMs anyhowNov 21 12:01
Diablo-D3MinceR: not at allNov 21 12:01
MinceRyeah, pay no attention to the man behind the curtainNov 21 12:01
Diablo-D3if codeplex says shit on codeplex is more bsd than gpl, thats a statisticNov 21 12:01
oiaohmDiablo-D3: On a standard intel chip set no.Nov 21 12:02
oiaohmDiablo-D3: in some of these hacked up evils they are connected back to the i2c buss.Nov 21 12:02
Diablo-D3and I have no problem with them claiming that, and I have no reason to attack them over thisNov 21 12:02
MinceRDiablo-D3: an irrelevant statisticNov 21 12:02
Diablo-D3MinceR: maybe, sureNov 21 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UK Defence Select Committee to investigate use of armed #drones http://ur1.ca/b76csNov 21 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Defence Select Committee to investigate use of armed drones  |  Global Research .::. Size~: 74.27 KBNov 21 12:02
Diablo-D3but they can claim so fairly.Nov 21 12:02
MinceRDiablo-D3: nobody in their right mind would host free software on a m$ siteNov 21 12:02
iophkhisNov 21 12:02
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, but that means nothingNov 21 12:02
iophk^this: Nov 21 12:02
MinceRnobody in their right mind would look for real data on free software on a m$ siteNov 21 12:03
Diablo-D3if they want to claim something they've found in their data, they are free to claim itNov 21 12:03
Diablo-D3are they lying? no. are they slandering someone? noNov 21 12:03
Diablo-D3its free speech.Nov 21 12:03
MinceRit's also free speech to point out that they're full of shitNov 21 12:03
Diablo-D3and I find it strange that a group of people who focus their efforts on free speech would be trying to take it away from someoneNov 21 12:03
MinceRand that they're full of shit because they come from m$Nov 21 12:03
oiaohmDiablo-D3: You would agree a chipset with VRM controls connect to i2c bus is no longer intel spec.Nov 21 12:03
MinceRi don't see who's taking free speech away hereNov 21 12:04
Diablo-D3oiaohm: no, because the i2c bus itself is specNov 21 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US http://ur1.ca/b76fq the term "homeland" as used by NazisNov 21 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US | Homeland Security Right Side News .::. Size~: 71.94 KBNov 21 12:04
Diablo-D3MinceR: <you> GRRR OHLOH SUCKS BECAUSE IT WAS ONCE RAN BY MICROSOFT GRRRNov 21 12:04
Diablo-D3seriously, grow up.Nov 21 12:04
MinceR<Diablo-D3> i believe everything ohloh says because they don't have a big microsoft logo on the top of the pageNov 21 12:05
Diablo-D3oiaohm: any device may connect to the i2c bus and enumerate any sort of sensor or controlNov 21 12:05
MinceRseriously, acquire some critical thinking skills.Nov 21 12:05
Diablo-D3oiaohm: if this means a mobo manuf vendor specific control, then thats fine. it is still within spec as long as it doesnt try to enumerate off of one of the intel bussesNov 21 12:05
Diablo-D3MinceR: I didnt say that either.Nov 21 12:05
Diablo-D3if ohloh says that newly ohloh registered projects are more bsd than gpl, then that is a valid observationNov 21 12:06
MinceRDiablo-D3: i didn't say what you said i did, eitherNov 21 12:06
MinceRDiablo-D3: it is, but like i said, it's an irrelevant observation stated with the intent of misleading peopleNov 21 12:06
MinceRit's FUD against free softwareNov 21 12:06
Diablo-D3oh and btw, as a reminder, redhat is a major investor of black duckNov 21 12:06
MinceRso?Nov 21 12:07
MinceRand nokia is (was?) the owner of QtNov 21 12:07
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Notice you are tryign to rat out here.  Intel spec chipset basically has the VRM that can handle it self.  Not having to have a i2c message answered todo the right thing.Nov 21 12:07
oiaohmDiablo-D3: basically not all motherboard replacements to intel designed parts are sane.Nov 21 12:08
Diablo-D3oiaohm: "handle itself" is a non-starter. gamer/enthusiest boards have runtime tweakable VRMsNov 21 12:08
Diablo-D3oiaohm: they still run themselves fineNov 21 12:08
Diablo-D3oiaohm: its just a feature, you dont need to use itNov 21 12:08
Diablo-D3you dont need to install software to use itNov 21 12:08
Diablo-D3and the intel stock vrms dont "run themselves" with an implication the southbridge does something, no, they just dont have a dedicated brain for itNov 21 12:09
Diablo-D3some boards have very high end VRM clusters that watch power performance in realtimeNov 21 12:09
iophkOholoh does suck.  It's not possible to remove the taint of its originsNov 21 12:10
oiaohmDiablo-D3: when I mean run self is they get a message from southbridge and they process it without having to send a message i2c to have it done.Nov 21 12:11
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes/no. they get a single message from the BIOS on boot and thats itNov 21 12:11
Diablo-D3oiaohm: guess what? if I dont install the software, thats how all these high performance boards work tooNov 21 12:11
Diablo-D3oiaohm: my mobo right now in my machine has that software... Ive never instaleld it.Nov 21 12:12
Diablo-D3oiaohm: it works identically: bios sends message on boot, nothing is said or done ever againNov 21 12:12
oiaohmThe messages in the crap ones are not just yes noNov 21 12:13
Diablo-D3they're not yes/no anyhowNov 21 12:14
Diablo-D3they're numbersNov 21 12:14
Diablo-D3even in bioses that you cant change shit like cpu voltage and suchNov 21 12:14
Diablo-D3they send a numberNov 21 12:14
Diablo-D3its just hardwired in the firmwareNov 21 12:14
Diablo-D3_now_, if everything used openfirmware/ this could be all done using standard openfirmware commandsNov 21 12:14
Diablo-D3the firmware would have a driver just for the vendor specific hardwareNov 21 12:15
Diablo-D3but i2c is fineNov 21 12:15
Diablo-D3and you cant wave your arms like an aspie and say ZOMG NO SPECIFICATION == EVILNov 21 12:15
Diablo-D3because guess what? its not an open spec.Nov 21 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Jovem da Serra Leoa cria bateria de lixo e é convidado para o MIT - #scitek http://goo.gl/hpcBmNov 21 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A secret Grand Jury on WikiLeaks has been active for 798 days." http://ur1.ca/b76u7 comical 'legal' system, on a whim... (Justice=Just Us)Nov 21 12:15
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Diablo-D3they dont NEED to give you anything that wasnt part of the original agreementNov 21 12:16
oiaohmI am not saying evil because of no open spec.Nov 21 12:16
Diablo-D3if you dont like it, dont do business with those vendors Nov 21 12:16
oiaohmI am saying evil because the ones I am refering to have the safe guards killed.Nov 21 12:16
Diablo-D399.9% of people will never own enthusiest oriented hardwareNov 21 12:16
Diablo-D3oiaohm: except they didntNov 21 12:16
oiaohmSo you can send i2c command and basically push cpu voltage to max.Nov 21 12:16
oiaohmwhile cpu is running.Nov 21 12:17
Diablo-D3yes, if you know the right commandNov 21 12:17
oiaohmNot if the installed cpu.Nov 21 12:17
oiaohmof the installed cpu.Nov 21 12:17
Diablo-D3yes, of the third party brainNov 21 12:17
Diablo-D3this is why you NEVER send garbage on i2c bussesNov 21 12:17
Diablo-D3you'll fry hardwareNov 21 12:17
oiaohmThe true intel chips for have some safe guards based on information go from the id process to board.Nov 21 12:18
Diablo-D3oiaohm: its in the cpuNov 21 12:19
Diablo-D3you cant override itNov 21 12:19
Diablo-D3if temp exceeds I think 140c, it scrams.Nov 21 12:19
Diablo-D3its not issued from the north or south bridgeNov 21 12:19
Diablo-D3its on the cpu, it powers offNov 21 12:19
Diablo-D3s/on/in/Nov 21 12:19
Diablo-D3its been that way since the early p4 daysNov 21 12:19
oiaohmThere are other safe guards that are to prevent you getting to that point or past it.Nov 21 12:20
oiaohmLike passing in overvoltage.Nov 21 12:20
Diablo-D3yes/noNov 21 12:20
oiaohmThose are part of the chipset design Diablo-D3Nov 21 12:20
oiaohmAnd some makers have removed them.Nov 21 12:20
Diablo-D3yes, but its usually something like the number is an 8 bit number representing 1/100ths of a volt Nov 21 12:21
Diablo-D3its not a safeguard, its a law of programming.Nov 21 12:21
oiaohmIt varaies between clones.  Some each number reprepents a different voltage setting not a scale for setting.Nov 21 12:22
oiaohmNot even in order.Nov 21 12:23
oiaohmOk order of cpus to require those voltages.Nov 21 12:23
oiaohmalong time.Nov 21 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: My speech at the European Nanoelectronics Forum - "Electronics for Europe": http://t.co/Dr3Fna3W #enf2012 #electronicsNov 21 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @KhalilRouhana: 'Invest in research = invest in productivity'; inspiring speech by @NeelieKroesEU at #European Nanoelectronics Forum ...Nov 21 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One Year Later, #OpenSource #Doom3 Is Moving Slowly http://ur1.ca/b776b #linuxNov 21 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comment Neelie on SPEECH/12/849 - Electronics for Europe .::. Size~: 16.14 KBNov 21 12:24
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oiaohmUndocumented basically means you can get away with almost every bit of evil hack without people being able to find out simply.  Diablo-D3Nov 21 12:24
oiaohmDiablo-D3: other than when boards start blowing up.Nov 21 12:24
Diablo-D3oiaohm: btw, realize the vrm control, even on boards that follow intel's ref designNov 21 12:25
Diablo-D3setup for this shit is in the biosNov 21 12:25
Diablo-D3even if you dont have any controls, its right thereNov 21 12:26
Diablo-D3its not in the southbridge or cpuNov 21 12:26
Diablo-D3now, the southbridge DOES have some hardware that is thermal control relatedNov 21 12:26
Diablo-D3depending on the southbridge, of courseNov 21 12:26
Diablo-D3and modern cpus have their own bus for thermal sensorsNov 21 12:27
oiaohmDiablo-D3: the difference is a full intel ref has some extra on what will be believed as valid settings by the hardware.Nov 21 12:28
Diablo-D3yes, but it doesnt mean you can access this from the OSNov 21 12:28
oiaohmDiablo-D3: to make chipsets to overclock some of that has been stripped away.Nov 21 12:28
Diablo-D3hell, intel doesnt even mandate the controller that reads voltagesNov 21 12:29
Diablo-D3there are some that lmsensors doesnt support Nov 21 12:29
Diablo-D3(its rare though)Nov 21 12:29
oiaohmYet provides implementations for those that read voltages and those that only use the volate levels internally and don't send to back on lmsensors.Nov 21 12:30
Diablo-D3yes, lmsensors cant read internal voltages sometimesNov 21 12:31
Diablo-D3depends on the setupNov 21 12:31
oiaohmDepends if the meter circuit is there as well.Nov 21 12:31
Diablo-D3yeahNov 21 12:31
oiaohmSome of the cheep copies the reason why you cannot get a meter reading is the meter circuit does not exist at all.Nov 21 12:32
Diablo-D3now, if you want to bitch there isnt a standardized spec for this? go ahead, I agree with that tooNov 21 12:32
oiaohmEven that all intel reference have it even if lmsensors cannot read it.Nov 21 12:32
Diablo-D3well, cheap copies are fine for one reasonNov 21 12:32
Diablo-D3never buy cheap copies.Nov 21 12:32
Diablo-D3although with intel this means never buy intel branded intel ref designsNov 21 12:33
Diablo-D3they're horribleNov 21 12:33
Diablo-D3btw, I think you didnt know this, but intel ref designs are largely shitNov 21 12:33
Diablo-D3their enterprise boards arent so bad, but their consumer ones are god awfulNov 21 12:33
Diablo-D3you're better off just buying msi, gigabyte, or asus' higher end boards (but dont go crazy and buy a $500 mobo)Nov 21 12:34
oiaohmYes intel ref design are prity shit for the low end boards.  But they are even more shit when some of the clone optimsied versions where they have cut even more of the chipset away.Nov 21 12:36
oiaohmLike the ones where hey we don't need to check the powersupply feed voltatges we pray the regulators are working correctly.Nov 21 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open-Source GPU Drivers Improved For #Linux 3.8 http://ur1.ca/b77l0Nov 21 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Internet #censorship debated behind closed doors (at 3 Dec '12), but google informs you to TAKE ACTION http://ur1.ca/9q3kxNov 21 12:37
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MinceRor because google works :>Nov 21 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #eu parliament should also investigate/discuss this other financial attack on Wikileaks' operations http://ur1.ca/b78atNov 21 12:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Israeli politicians must be delighted about the explosion on a Tel Aviv bus. It helps their #pr machine and can help them get re-elected.Nov 21 13:36
schestowitzI don&#x27;t know, I have not found any news about this thingNov 21 13:38
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schestowitz"I don&#x27;t know, I have not found any news about this thing"Nov 21 13:38
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US http://www.rightsidenews.com/2012112117436/us/homeland-security/homeland-security-wants-to-more-than-double-its-predator-drone-fleet-inside-the-us.html the term "homeland" as used by NazisNov 21 13:39
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schestowitz"I always think to myself how unjust and immoral is to use unmanned drones to attack real people without any chance to defend themselves. It would be probobly more "ok" if these people could be able to use their own drones to fight the drones from US. That would make these conflicts FAIR. Besides, there are other issues involved, like remote killing [=remote "responsibility"]. Drones should be banned worldwide, or allowed worldwide, so Nov 21 13:40
schestowitzthe conflicts could be resolved on a deserts, where there's no people to get harmed. But then - why would you even need drones? could the cyber war be sufficient? If USA really like the concept of remote/cyber killing, then they will probobly get it sooner or later, by one group of activists or other, but on a different - probobly even wider - scale, because one drone can destroy a building, while aimed internet attack could lead to Nov 21 13:40
schestowitzsevere consequences, like power outages, problems with water/energy/food supply. USA clearly builds up a very bad karma for themselves."Nov 21 13:40
schestowitzIt's the Pentagon and others. I think the American public is quickly catching up.Nov 21 13:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2125616Nov 21 13:46
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schestowitz"Is this even real?"Nov 21 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GoogleNexus 10 32 GB Now In Stock, Nexus 4 May Be Coming http://ur1.ca/b7ad1 #linux #androidNov 21 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To #patent or not to patent, that is the question http://ur1.ca/b7aer #usptoNov 21 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Filesystems Benchmarked http://ur1.ca/b7auc #kernelNov 21 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chromebooks Get Extended Desktop Support http://ur1.ca/b7azj #gnu #linuxNov 21 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google's Android is eating Apple's lunch http://ur1.ca/b7azt #linux #appleNov 21 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mystic Mine puzzle game goes open source! Mystic Mine puzzle game goes open source! #opensourceNov 21 14:24
cubezzzis there a link for the puzzle game?Nov 21 14:28
schestowitzhttp://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?threads/mystic-mine-puzzle-game-goes-open-source.1447/Nov 21 14:29
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cubezzzthanks :)Nov 21 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I meant to post the ink http://ur1.ca/b7bhk not to shout "Mystic Mine puzzle game goes open source!" twiceNov 21 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android Community Demands MIUI ROM Comply With FOSS Licenses http://ur1.ca/b7bob #opensourceNov 21 14:35
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cubezzzdemo works fine on a p3Nov 21 14:40
cubezzzshould run on almost anyone's machine I would thinkNov 21 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] President Obama Is Not Impressed With Your Right To Modify His Photos http://ur1.ca/b7btg not impressed with #obamaNov 21 14:40
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iophkhttp://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/sailfish-os-meego-nokia-jolla-99728Nov 21 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz President Obama Is Not Impressed With Your Right To Modify His Photos http://ur1.ca/b7btg not impressed with #obamaNov 21 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] is it any wonder !copyright is such a mindnumbing mess when !Copyfraud is perpetrated by heads of state? http://ur1.ca/b7btgNov 21 14:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121120/10532121101/holiday-deals-techdirt-insider-shop.shtmlNov 21 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers See: http://ur1.ca/b79fm and http://ur1.ca/w5fqNov 21 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @ervin ♻ @estherderby: Interesting: networks v. hierarchies http://t.co/LAtnOvJv #systemsNov 21 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode http://ur1.ca/b7d9hNov 21 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @meta_alliance you're welcome, keep it up!Nov 21 16:09
iophkEven the people paid to shill for M$ don't like to use that junk :http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57551997-71/o-oprah-tweeting-your-love-for-the-surface..-on-an-ipad/Nov 21 16:26
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iophkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20429625Nov 21 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @OpenAccessEC: Commissioner Máire Geoghegan-Quinn at #OpenAIRE2012 Conference: 'I am firm believer in #OA' http://t.co/GRchJvN5 #ope ...Nov 21 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] 1&1 bestätigt: #Gewährleistung auch nach Flashen #Android #FYA ur1.ca/b7g65Nov 21 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @3rik My experience with #Ubuntu running on a #Nexus7 http://www.ur1.ca/b7c64 #FSFE #FYA !fsfe #SFSConNov 21 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Melbourne bus abuse video puts Australian attitudes on trial http://goo.gl/FcW9tNov 21 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The 'both-sides-are-awful' dismissal of Gaza ignores the key role of the US government http://goo.gl/Zz04nNov 21 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] In the absence of a 'none of the above' option, I had to spoil my ballot paper http://goo.gl/dBUOZNov 21 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Republicans behind this sexist hazing of Susan Rice http://goo.gl/k0oY2Nov 21 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] press (DE) @prolinux_de !FSFE begrüßt das Eckpunktepapier der Bundesregierung zu »Secure Boot« ur1.ca/b7haqNov 21 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] Hacktivists Take Over Israeli Official's Twitter Account http://rod.gs/1Bm !anonymous !wikileaksNov 21 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] press (DE) @prolinux_de "Freiburg beschließt Umstieg auf MS Office" ur1.ca/b7hddNov 21 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Wednesday http://ur1.ca/b7hp6Nov 21 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Dec-06: Yaso gives a talk entitled: "Benefits of using the "Open Web" in the context of government" http://dlvr.it/2WXCH6Nov 21 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Megaupload Assisted FBI vs NinjaVideo, But Evidence Then Used Against Them http://goo.gl/o7axINov 21 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] TorrentFreak Trolls a Copyright Troll http://goo.gl/zj5l9Nov 21 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Security Hole Allows Pirates to Get a Legitimate Windows8 Activation for Free http://goo.gl/FRfas #msvista8 #crashandburn lol ;) #gatesplanNov 21 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Microsoft gives away Windows 8 Pro to pirates by accident http://goo.gl/MnDaP rofl desperate to get folks to use #Win8Nov 21 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Highly respected expert deems Windows 8 ‘weak on tablets, terrible for PCs’ http://goo.gl/5BtbFNov 21 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Some look to tear down Apple’s walled garden http://goo.gl/8AU34Nov 21 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Recording industry stamps its feet, triples URL takedown requests to Google http://goo.gl/2njFbNov 21 18:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mannequins That Watch Shoppers http://goo.gl/fBCtb nothing's gonna stop us nowNov 21 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Big Data Could Sink Europe's 'Right To Be Forgotten' http://goo.gl/PAu07Nov 21 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Littlest Thug: Prince Sends Cease And Desist To Fan Who Created 'Le Petit Prince' Miniature Doll http://goo.gl/FFwh4Nov 21 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Optimus e #Vodafone proíbem VoIP no telemóvel. E isso é legal? - Exame Informática http://goo.gl/Y1yIB #pt #netneutralityNov 21 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Supplying The Missing Ingredient In Evidence-Based Policymaking: Evidence http://goo.gl/ky1kuNov 21 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens @Thistleweb @Sazius @R7 @Ovigia @Zoowar @JK @Expatpaul @Ghostdancer @Sanderch @Nybill @Hgfernan aaewiu#Nov 21 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Judge orders women in sexual harassment case to hand over cell phones, email and Facebook passwords http://goo.gl/Qijip wtf?Nov 21 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants | CNET News http://goo.gl/t4w9D #usa #policestate #internetNov 21 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Notifications Are Too Damn Many http://goo.gl/CKhx3Nov 21 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @EPPGroup: RT @paulruebig: Just signed for #ConnectingEurope. Sign it too. @SiimKallasEU @GOettingerEU @NeelieKroesEU http://t.co/ERE ...Nov 21 18:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @EPPGroup: RT @paulruebig: Just signed for #ConnectingEurope. Sign it too. @SiimKallasEU @GOettingerEU @NeelieKroesEU http://t.co/ERE ...Nov 21 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Elite's Plan for World-Wide Genocide Revealed - YouTube http://goo.gl/EOT31 #elites #nwo #dajjal #depopulationNov 21 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @oberger do you think about @x11r5 preparing for his groupiesNov 21 18:54
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iophkhttp://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/210323137/scat/b8de8e630faf3631/ht/North-Korean-minister-killed-by-mortar-shell-for-drinking-in-mourning-periodNov 21 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Assassination studies: Hoover, The Mob, LBJ and The Texas Connection http://goo.gl/7gpbn #jfkNov 21 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Assassination studies: The party before the assassination and the missing fingerprint http://goo.gl/LNMG7 #jfkNov 21 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Assassination studies: http://goo.gl/9GmQs #jfk #docsNov 21 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Kickstarter sued over 3D Systems' printer patent http://goo.gl/dzf4eNov 21 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Surfthechannel owner jailed for contempt of court http://goo.gl/nU23mNov 21 19:37
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/candtalan/statuses/271279508068380672Nov 21 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Rafa confirmed as #Chelsea boss - who says the Premier League doesn't make it's own entertainment - condolences #fact #footballNov 21 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ofra Haza - Love Song (Halev Remix) Must see http://is.gd/siDYmm #israelNov 21 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Assassination studies: #JFK: Killed for pursuing peace http://goo.gl/WSHcbNov 21 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HAHA !!! #Circus Chelsea appoint Rafael Benitez as interim first-team manager until the end of the season.http://www.... http://b1t.it/csUaNov 21 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 182 dents!Nov 21 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents Through ‘Union’ in Europe http://ur1.ca/b7nej #swpats #eu #europe #juri #euparlNov 21 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb All the people all of the mind become burdens when the environment which made them necessary no longer value." repeatNov 21 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Morality of war.Two panelists round on the third as he says neither Axis or Allies held the WW2 moral high ground. #IagreewithhimNov 21 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The two who had a pop at him were too shallow for this type of debate.Nov 21 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Regulators Target Patent Trolls But Lose Sight of Patent Cartels http://ur1.ca/b7nx4 #ftc #itc #uspto #us #protectionism #swpatsNov 21 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] will #Chelsea have their own variant of the "Kean out" banners from day one? Rafa out #footballNov 21 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Microsoft Lobby Uses Regulators as Weapon Against Google http://ur1.ca/b7oap #microsoft #search #antitrustNov 21 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for November 21, 2012 http://ur1.ca/b7oloNov 21 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 Drives Windows Users to Other Operating Systems http://ur1.ca/b7oyu #windows #gnu #linuxNov 21 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] have you tried "yaaic"?Nov 21 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality I Am A TurtleNov 21 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Freiburg Should Use #ODF Only, Just Like #Portugal http://ur1.ca/b7pwg #ooxmlNov 21 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Interesting CC-licensed project from New Media Rights: legal advice webseries for game designers. http://bit.ly/Wz281I #fundfreecultureNov 21 21:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] BISTRI: a new French startup involved in WebRTC http://dlvr.it/2WZsRgNov 21 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wikileaks: Secret leaked video of Petraeus outburst over sex scandal | http://t.co/B6DiA0cY #assange #cypherpunks http://t.co/p9sNjWBKNov 21 22:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HTC’s CEO Confirms Our Assertion That Apple Android Tax Was Just FUD http://ur1.ca/b7s0q #apple #htc #android #linuxNov 21 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Proves #Techrights Right by Screwing #UEFI ‘Partners’ http://ur1.ca/b7s1q #linuxNov 21 22:20
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Faitherdoesn't win8 write parts to the non-partitioned parts of the drive?Nov 21 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @kdecommunity 1st beta of !KDE SC 4.10 released. Join us in testing, polishing and translatiing → http://ur1.ca/b7sibNov 21 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE - KDE Ships First Beta of Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform 4.10 .::. Size~: 22.26 KBNov 21 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How technology opens the door for personalised pricing http://goo.gl/O6FmaNov 21 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kdecommunity 1st beta of !KDE SC 4.10 released. Join us in testing, polishing and translatiing → http://ur1.ca/b7sibNov 21 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - How technology opens the door for personalised pricing .::. Size~: 88.57 KBNov 21 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE - KDE Ships First Beta of Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform 4.10 .::. Size~: 22.26 KBNov 21 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] that was a rather productive #Mumble catchup / brainstorm with @moosical about #NaNoWriMoNov 21 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kappos/IBM Part of the Patent Monopolies Disease, Enabling Cartels http://ur1.ca/b7td9 #ibm #swpatsNov 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kappos' words are telling in the sense that they expose him as the Bernanke of monopolies in software, to borrow an ana http://ur1.ca/b7td9Nov 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Kappos' words are telling in the sense that they expose him as the Bernanke of monopolies in software, to borrow an ana http://ur1. ...Nov 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Rick Falkvinge http://ur1.ca/b7tevNov 21 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kappos/IBM Part of the Patent Monopolies Disease, Enabling Cartels | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.8 KBNov 21 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kappos/IBM Part of the Patent Monopolies Disease, Enabling Cartels | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.8 KBNov 21 22:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Brazil squanders chance at geopolitical influence; kills… .::. Size~: 165.76 KBNov 21 22:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Woohoo !!!Patents are so awesome !http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20434031 http://ur1.ca/b7tm8Nov 21 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Kickstarter sued over 3D Systems' printer patent .::. Size~: 79.74 KBNov 21 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Kickstarter sued over 3D Systems' printer patent .::. Size~: 81.24 KBNov 21 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jrobertson I've just recorded a test video from the CLI on the RPi usung streamer. Here's how http://ur1.ca/b7ssxNov 21 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Recording a video using streamer [video] [webcam] [record] [streamer] [avi] .::. Size~: 1.05 KBNov 21 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Thermonuclear http://ur1.ca/b7tosNov 21 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #oprah has been bribed by #microsoft for fake endorsements http://ur1.ca/b7tt3 typical http://ur1.ca/b7tt6 http://ur1.ca/25vtxNov 21 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: North Korean minister killed by mortar shell for drinking in mourning period | Big News Network .::. Size~: 110.9 KBNov 21 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: O, Oprah! Tweeting your love for the Surface... on an iPad? | Technically Incorrect - CNET News .::. Size~: 70.45 KBNov 21 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not Even Oprah Winfrey’s Fake Endorsements Can Save Microsoft’s Vista Phony 7 | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.53 KBNov 21 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Gates Takes Over Schooling Systems With Help From Oprah, NBC, Other Press for Hire | Techrights .::. Size~: 134.02 KBNov 21 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dear MSBBC, how is defending #freespeech "attacking" http://ur1.ca/b7tw3 it's the #un that's "attacking" (our rights)Nov 21 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Google attacks UN's internet treaty conference .::. Size~: 112.64 KBNov 21 23:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2125614Nov 21 23:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Beware of this quote: "The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society;"   It is the softening up part of a speech by J.F. Kennedy in which he asks the press to censor themselves.   *"Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: “Is it news?” All I suggest is that you add the question: “Is it in the interest of the national security?”"*   [JFK LIbrary](http://wwwNov 21 23:08
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schestowitz"Nov 21 23:10
schestowitzIt was a cheap underhand speech. He failed to mention that Marx had been hounded from country to country because there was no free speech in those countries. He blamed Marx for the politics of the USSR, which were no worse than that of the czars when it came to freedoms. (was Kerenzy a marxist?). This son of the elite laughs at a dissident because he refused $5 per article to feed his wife and family. This all from a President who had Nov 21 23:10
schestowitztried to invade Cuba so the mafia could return, was bombing and torturing in vietnam, and whose CIA were doing the usual mayhem in South America and generally supporting dictators and torture around the world. Nov 21 23:10
schestowitzYet, he is presented as a hero of freedom and liberalism. Nov 21 23:10
schestowitzThe USA never runs out of excuses to kill, but can never find one for peace.Nov 21 23:10
schestowitz"Nov 21 23:10
schestowitzJFK was iconised as anti-Establishment by those who claimed he was assassinated by high interests.Nov 21 23:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2125535Nov 21 23:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The reality is, Google is censoring material (not just to comply with gov. requests), but it wants to paint isself as "against censorship"Nov 21 23:11
schestowitz"I'm aware of government requests and copyright/patent requests. What else is there?"Nov 21 23:11
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2125533Nov 21 23:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Internet #censorship debated behind closed doors (at 3 Dec '12), but google informs you to TAKE ACTION https://www.google.com/takeaction/Nov 21 23:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Take Action – Google .::. Size~: 249.54 KBNov 21 23:11
schestowitz"Nov 21 23:11
schestowitzDespite some of their efforts, Google is still part of the problem.Nov 21 23:11
schestowitz&#x27;til then, https://www.accessnow.org/page/s/ituNov 21 23:11
schestowitz"Nov 21 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Campaign | Access  |  Tell the ITU: The internet belongs to us! .::. Size~: 46.59 KBNov 21 23:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2126702Nov 21 23:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Drives Windows Users to Other Operating Systems http://techrights.org/2012/11/21/vista-8-polls/ #windows #gnu #linuxNov 21 23:12
schestowitz"I sure hope so"Nov 21 23:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Vista 8 Drives Windows Users to Other Operating Systems | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.07 KBNov 21 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The govt is trying to get around the Supreme Court. So we told a judge, again, to reject warrantless GPS tracking https://eff.org/r.a8rfNov 21 23:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jones Meant What it Said: EFF Urges Court to Stop Warrantless GPS Tracking | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.99 KBNov 21 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rope [GIF] http://ur1.ca/b7uq1Nov 21 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #privacy http://ur1.ca/b7urvNov 21 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Margin taking http://ur1.ca/b7v5hNov 21 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #obe for tax evader http://ur1.ca/b7v7u #ukNov 21 23:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Take That members named in tax avoidance investigation | Music | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 129.93 KBNov 21 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #beverage test http://ur1.ca/b7vfvNov 21 23:47
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jfontich/statuses/271387055127408640Nov 21 23:50
TechrightsBot-tr@jfontich: http://t.co/SNYbzbvq http://t.co/SNYbzbvqNov 21 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thousands of prostesters on the street of #London http://ur1.ca/b7vkh not getting better over timeNov 21 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Students protest at  Demo 2012 – as it happened | Education | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 168.83 KBNov 21 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @expatpaul Profound bot is not my first message in any way i just wish the debate could move on to r ..Nov 21 23:59

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