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| schestowitz | yay, I'm on enlightement now | Jan 26 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427233874222280704 | Jan 26 00:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi25i ] | Jan 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427233874222280704 | Jan 26 00:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On Enlightenment (E17, first time in 12 years); works like a champ, despitefatal segmentation fault at first. Will try this for coming week. | Jan 26 00:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmpBD_MoeAw | Jan 26 00:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Bartłomiej Maślankiewicz -- Relacja z Kijowa 2014-01-22 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gi2bf ] | Jan 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | rysiek|pl: ^^ | Jan 26 00:52 |
| rysiek|pl | they say that supposedly snipers shoot live ammo at journalists | Jan 26 00:55 |
| rysiek|pl | *supposedly* | Jan 26 00:55 |
| rysiek|pl | that's 4 days ago | Jan 26 00:56 |
| rysiek|pl | old news | Jan 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557535 | Jan 26 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fame by wealth https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557532 | Jan 26 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa Intel(ligence) Inside https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1546415_783191791694849_369179649_n.jpg | Jan 26 00:59 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554066 | Jan 26 01:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When Bush does it they support it, when Obush does it they denounce it http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/republicans-call-for-halt-to-unconstitutional-surveillance-programs/ Republicans -- I don't understand!! | Jan 26 01:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Republicans call for halt to “unconstitutional surveillance programs” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ghu2v ] | Jan 26 01:48 |
| schestowitz__ | "Well, the Democrats were all bent out of shape back in '05-'06 when Bush was doing it, but the Progressives are pretty quiet about it now. The devotion to party here in the US is astounding. It's like knifing someone for liking the wrong cola even though they both give you diabetes." | Jan 26 01:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427256669081726977 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427256809683165184 | Jan 26 01:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://t.co/OhqKzvmZG5 | Jan 26 01:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Obama's awkward moment http://t.co/RBMNJEthyV | Jan 26 01:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557640 | Jan 26 01:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/ancient-tablet-reveals-new-details-about-noah-ark-prototype/ | Jan 26 01:52 |
| schestowitz__ | "Not clicking that. Fuck that." | Jan 26 01:52 |
| schestowitz__ | Filed under the "science" section :-) | Jan 26 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Of course it is Fox. facepalm" | Jan 26 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3553371 | Jan 26 01:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to a new poll, less than half of people think that Red Hat does NOT give the #nsa back doors in #linux http://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa/ | Jan 26 01:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Is Red Hat Working for the NSA? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/ght2o ] | Jan 26 01:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "Link?" | Jan 26 01:54 |
| schestowitz__ | On the page | Jan 26 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting | Jan 26 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features http://t.co/9J1pXPOvNA | Jan 26 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi2nj | Jan 26 02:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting Features | Tux Machines | Jan 26 02:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427258932273618944 | Jan 26 02:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting Features http://t.co/29zIpAD4Ja #linux #kernel | Jan 26 02:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting Features | Jan 26 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More libraries switch to KOHA catalogue system | Jan 26 02:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xdFY5wuY6T | Jan 26 02:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi2w5 | Jan 26 02:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | More libraries switch to KOHA catalogue system | Tux Machines | Jan 26 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | This is the nastiest winter that I can remember. | Jan 26 03:59 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/mageia-4-and-more/ #mageia #pclinuxos #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jan 26 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi58z ] | Jan 26 09:37 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/note-3-users-samsung-disabled-unofficial-accessories-via-software-update/ | Jan 26 10:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ei ] | Jan 26 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS | Jan 26 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Still Very Much Alive http://t.co/8Tf9WW225v | Jan 26 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5ej | Jan 26 10:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:02 |
| Sosumi | another reason why I favor either vanilla android or open source android | Jan 26 10:08 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558213 | Jan 26 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/financial-apartheid/ | Jan 26 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi5il ] | Jan 26 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sosumi: yeah | Jan 26 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Samsung is evik | Jan 26 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Like Sony, just not as bad | Jan 26 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sony is deep in the MAFIAA and DRM business | Jan 26 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427385484684578816 | Jan 26 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update http://t.co/crqRCJAybD #samsung #ballnux | Jan 26 10:25 |
| Sosumi | sony actually went to the point of not even allowing audio cds on the ps4 | Jan 26 10:25 |
| Sosumi | in order to shove their music anywhere service | Jan 26 10:25 |
| Sosumi | also, no flac support | Jan 26 10:25 |
| iophk | ps3 was good until they pulled the ability to run Linux. | Jan 26 10:26 |
| iophk | ps4 ... meh | Jan 26 10:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558227 | Jan 26 10:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Geneva https://despora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_be50b013eab46aeede0d.jpg | Jan 26 10:26 |
| Sosumi | ps3 was ok | Jan 26 10:27 |
| iophk | It was heading a very good direction until they decided to reverse policy and block dual use. | Jan 26 10:28 |
| iophk | It would be interesting to find out the motivation for that move. | Jan 26 10:28 |
| Sosumi | but I think that the lack of gpu acceleration out of the box was kind dumb | Jan 26 10:28 |
| Sosumi | although folks were finding workarounds | Jan 26 10:28 |
| Sosumi | to a lesser extent, no ecc memory kind killed it for clustering | Jan 26 10:29 |
| Sosumi | although you could always use some error correcting algo | Jan 26 10:29 |
| Sosumi | but it was a cheap way to get access to the cell | Jan 26 10:30 |
| Sosumi | without overpaying for a cell computing board or rack | Jan 26 10:30 |
| Sosumi | and I'm all in for choice and options | Jan 26 10:31 |
| Sosumi | so shame on them | Jan 26 10:31 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554984 | Jan 26 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: keyboard pants... | Jan 26 10:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Spacebar! Ooooh yeah! Spacebar me now!" | Jan 26 10:32 |
| Sosumi | plus, were there any games on the ps3 that awarded a purchase of the system? | Jan 26 10:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557642 | Jan 26 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama's awkward moment http://cheezburger.com/7960577280 | Jan 26 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> cheezburger.com | That Awkward Moment When... - Cheezburger | Jan 26 10:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It's amazing how politicians can tell lies no matter how outrageous are." | Jan 26 10:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557640 | Jan 26 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/ancient-tablet-reveals-new-details-about-noah-ark-prototype/ | Jan 26 10:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.foxnews.com | Ancient tablet reveals new details about Noah's Ark prototype | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/gi1st ] | Jan 26 10:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The world is awash in a rising tide of stupid shit nowadays." | Jan 26 10:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The "like" is for the comment." | Jan 26 10:33 |
| Sosumi | because, outside of wipeout, there were any actually good games on the thing | Jan 26 10:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554983 | Jan 26 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bass https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_3b2264ee5d7a32814f1c.jpg | Jan 26 10:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It seems that assholes are everywhere, not only in banana republics like mine." | Jan 26 10:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554975 | Jan 26 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183 #utah #poverty | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Interesting." | Jan 26 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.nationofchange.org | Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes | NationofChange [ http://ur1.ca/gi5m5 ] | Jan 26 10:36 |
| Sosumi | same could be said about the xbox 2, outside of some republished games like rez hd (dreamcast), geometry wars and the ninja gaiden series (the ones done by itagaki)) | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556085 | Jan 26 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: On children's website, #NSA puts a furry, smiley face on its mission http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/on-children-s-website-nsa-puts-a-furry-smiley-face-on-its-mission-475262 (anti) "CryptoKids" | Jan 26 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ndtv.com | On children's website, NSA puts a furry, smiley face on its mission | NDTV.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi5m7 ] | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ""In the world of diplomacy, knowing what your enemy is planning helps you to prepare". So are they finally admitting that see the rest of the world as an enemy?" | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3549690 | Jan 26 10:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mac Asay deletes #chromebooks from history http://readwrite.com/2014/01/23/why-the-linux-desktop-never-mattered | Jan 26 10:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 10:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> readwrite.com | Why The Linux Desktop Doesn't Matter Anymore – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/ghl1m ] | Jan 26 10:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think he has something of a point, in that most users will just pick the option Dell/HP tell them to and doesn't involve any work to get it running. They look at linux and see something complicated they can't trust, windows is the soma of computing. | Jan 26 10:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That said, he's being a dick. He tied the whole thing to a sensationalist headline and completely ignored the fact that | Jan 26 10:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The linux desktop isn't irrelevant to the millions of people who use it | Jan 26 10:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It's growing | Jan 26 10:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 10:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Oh, and I feel so sorry for his friend Valerie if he advised her to switch to apple. I hope she didn't get scared away from trying new stuff just because of that." | Jan 26 10:38 |
| Sosumi | outside of those "exclusives" I fail to actually name games that are exclusive to those systems and that manage to be better of what we find on the pc | Jan 26 10:38 |
| Sosumi | and it isn't looking better on this gen | Jan 26 10:38 |
| Sosumi | with the introduction of touch games and motion junk with cameras | Jan 26 10:39 |
| Sosumi | and voice recognition | Jan 26 10:39 |
| Sosumi | which transmit all your data to the game publisher | Jan 26 10:39 |
| Sosumi | although the portable consoles kind of look nice | Jan 26 10:40 |
| Sosumi | you could just get an original psp | Jan 26 10:40 |
| Sosumi | and play games for cheap | Jan 26 10:41 |
| Sosumi | if you're into turn based strategy games and some nice platformers | Jan 26 10:41 |
| Sosumi | the disgaea series and the priny series are nice and can be bought dirt cheap on the second hand market | Jan 26 10:42 |
| Sosumi | also, don't we have Davos conference around now | Jan 26 10:43 |
| Sosumi | in which the failing oligarchs will be plotting to keep themselves afloat | Jan 26 10:44 |
| Sosumi | aka the survival of the unfit | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial | Jan 26 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | accessories via software update | Jan 26 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oA3f4lE1rY | Jan 26 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5ng | Jan 26 10:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:45 |
| iophk | http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-10-2013-12.html | Jan 26 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report [ http://ur1.ca/gi5o0 ] | Jan 26 10:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @voidquest44 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via...' | Jan 26 10:54 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557087 | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Programmierer #Feindschaft bis in den Tod !?! | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ecfcb666d65dca89c711.jpeg | Jan 26 10:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: anything specific? | Jan 26 10:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "iophk: anything specific?bööse :)| | Jan 26 10:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556072 | Jan 26 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #gifs #police | Jan 26 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kasidy@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9491b4d89e81d0b905e4.gif | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "this explains so much in a nutshell, the first reaction of the jackboot is to destroy, to maim and to use violence, without logical reflection or reason" | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556073 | Jan 26 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Biggest Hole Dug by Hand # | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Fascinating. Simply fascinating." | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556087 | Jan 26 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Worse than Jobs: the man who added #apple to #nsa #prism http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/25/tim-cook-talks-nsa-secrecy-and-more-with-abc-news/ | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | “there is no back door. The government doesn’t have access to our servers. They would have to cart us out in box for that, and that will not happen.” | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ... And you don't believe Tim Cook? | Jan 26 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.gottabemobile.com | Tim Cook Talks NSA, Secrecy, and More with ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gi5q3 ] | Jan 26 10:58 |
| Sosumi | Tim Crook | Jan 26 10:59 |
| iophk | Nothing specific that I know of but it would be interesting to know what caused Sony to do an about face on allowing Linux. | Jan 26 10:59 |
| Sosumi | sony had also allowed linux on the ps2 | Jan 26 11:01 |
| Sosumi | to the point of even selling you a kit | Jan 26 11:01 |
| iophk | It was a selling point. | Jan 26 11:01 |
| Sosumi | I think that was directed to the japanese market | Jan 26 11:02 |
| Sosumi | in order to minimize the amount of occupied space at home | Jan 26 11:02 |
| Sosumi | since flats in japan tend to be quite small | Jan 26 11:03 |
| iophk | Only the large ones are small. The rest are much smaller. | Jan 26 11:03 |
| Sosumi | more like a house fit for gnome or hobbit | Jan 26 11:03 |
| Sosumi | and since most ppl in the end always end up having a laptop | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | I think that was the idea behind that | Jan 26 11:04 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/26/swedish-public-television-claims-copyright-to-everybodys-sports-photos-if-posted-on-twitter/ | Jan 26 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | Swedish Public Television Claims Copyright Publication Rights To Everybody's Sports Photos If Posted On Twitter - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ra ] | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | giving folks a small footprint computer | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | that doubles as a console and bluray player | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | well, triples | Jan 26 11:05 |
| iophk | basically 3 device in one | Jan 26 11:05 |
| Sosumi | and a docking station for the psp | Jan 26 11:05 |
| Sosumi | so 4 devices in one | Jan 26 11:05 |
| Sosumi | I actually bought a ps3 back in early 2009 | Jan 26 11:06 |
| Sosumi | in order to test cell | Jan 26 11:06 |
| Sosumi | ofc that I returned the console after that | Jan 26 11:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: wow | Jan 26 11:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | new low | Jan 26 11:07 |
| Sosumi | and from what I could tell, at least the powerpc core was as fast as the 1.8 g5 | Jan 26 11:08 |
| Sosumi | that crapple included on the base powermac g5 when they introduced the architecture | Jan 26 11:08 |
| Sosumi | and I couldn't get decent results from the SPEs | Jan 26 11:09 |
| Sosumi | but from my opinion, at that time | Jan 26 11:09 |
| Sosumi | you'd be better with one or more gtx 9800 | Jan 26 11:09 |
| Sosumi | new low? where? me buying the console? | Jan 26 11:10 |
| Sosumi | I had 15 days to test it out and then go back to the store and ask to be refunded | Jan 26 11:11 |
| Sosumi | so I got my 399€ back anyways | Jan 26 11:11 |
| Sosumi | and sony got a console to recondition in order to sell it back again as new | Jan 26 11:12 |
| iophk | schestowitz_bed2: there were some web hosting services that tried to take ownership of everything that was uploaded and published on their machines. I can't recall the name(s) right now, but I think they're not in business any more. | Jan 26 11:14 |
| iophk | It was more than a few years ago. | Jan 26 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427396958941368320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427398042946637824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427398518551351296 | Jan 26 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Your photos are not yours http://t.co/azRljpGamj | Jan 26 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Mississippi is now the tenth state to consider legislation to ban cooperation with #NSA http://t.co/NDrIVmPCFu up from six | Jan 26 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> offnow.org | Mississippi is now the tenth state to consider legislation to ban cooperation with NSA | Nullify NSA!Nullify NSA! | Jan 26 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "THE NEWS" ❂ JUICE RAP NEWS ❂ SEASON 2 EP 1 https://t.co/XM3i0K8fPA real news, with humour | Jan 26 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | "THE NEWS" ❂ JUICE RAP NEWS ❂ SEASON 2 EP 1 - YouTube | Jan 26 11:19 |
| iophk | I guess that kind of grab happens often still: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/12/18/facebook-to-instagram-users-all-your-photos-are-belong-to-us/ | Jan 26 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.marketwatch.com | Facebook to Instagram users: 'all your photos are belong to us' - The Tell - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/gi5u2 ] | Jan 26 11:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about this, BUT... | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is about WHERE you upload to | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Not WHERE you take the photo | Jan 26 11:22 |
| iophk | good point | Jan 26 11:22 |
| iophk | twitter is just an inde | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Also, 5 or 6 years ago I read about some place with a tree where if you took a photo, they claimed to own the copyrights | Jan 26 11:23 |
| iophk | index | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | either way, there's a landgrab of copyrights | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | like all ownershi | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | see what I write this morning about Gates | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he now invests directly in oppression of protest | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and made 15 billion last year | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | my personal hero /sarcasm | Jan 26 11:24 |
| iophk | Until he starts handing out cash, it's just bluff and marketing no real philanthropy. | Jan 26 11:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | an afford to hire people with inside information | Jan 26 11:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | i.e. people who rig the markets | Jan 26 11:24 |
| iophk | But then maybe that's the point. | Jan 26 11:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | taking away from hopefuls who think that investment is a win to all | Jan 26 11:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | wait for ZDNet et al. to use that to smear Android | Jan 26 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VX0Hc9ciUO | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5v1 | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/EWp5hMwAKR | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5v2 | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427400720279957505 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427401773658042369 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427402691770593280 | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 http://t.co/IuyvMcerst #tizen is back then... #linux | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Muktware | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Windows is infecting #Android http://t.co/ilJzTb6pBR don't use Windows. | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | New malware uses Windows to infect Android devices | Muktware | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. http://t.co/WkB6aULPa8 #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.crazyengineers.com | Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | CrazyEngineers | Jan 26 11:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427403442794270721 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427403757601951744 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427405505116790784 | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Limitations in #e17 (Enlightenment) make me yearn for KDE4: can't resize windows with SHIFT+mouse, Kipper needed. Good side: RAM miracle! | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Latest Unity7 Update in #Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. http://t.co/pkAB7Px6BM #gnu #linux | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.crazyengineers.com | Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. | CrazyEngineers | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #drones with legs, wheels, etc. http://t.co/gLBCdpJDOo http://t.co/iNoMrX61ar http://t.co/Rn0AWrnllN | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slashgear.com | U.S. Army expects to replace a quarter of soldiers with robots by 2040 - SlashGear | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040 | Muktware | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.voanews.com | U.S. Army Envisions More Robotic Future | Jan 26 11:43 |
| iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Peace | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Forever Peace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gi5xb ] | Jan 26 11:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427406331281416192 | Jan 26 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Now that assassination by flying robots (based on #nsa kill lists) has been made "normal" by the corporate, war-loving media we move further | Jan 26 11:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427406831246651392 | Jan 26 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Remember that to the #nsa "undesirables" include journalists, whistleblowers, regulators, politicians, human rights groups, protesters | Jan 26 11:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427407188815282176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427407626411180033 | Jan 26 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: In #yemen the #obama administration helped the jailing of a journalist for daring to compete with US reporting (monopoly) on #drone strikes | Jan 26 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Jailing journalists and such not a novel concept (1990) http://t.co/gi27OepiwY Tocuhe! http://t.co/MCXQFDqJk5 | Jan 26 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> articles.chicagotribune.com | Ex-official: Cia Helped Jail Mandela - Chicago Tribune | Jan 26 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> abcnews.go.com | President Obama Poses for Selfie at Nelson Mandela's Memorial Service - ABC News | Jan 26 11:50 |
| iophk | http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/strong-majority-in-imco-voted-to-defend-net-neutrality/ | Jan 26 11:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | christianengstrom.wordpress.com | Strong majority in IMCO voted to defend net neutrality | Christian Engström, Pirate MEP [ http://ur1.ca/gi5z7 ] | Jan 26 11:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-h-open-is-closed-and-offline-heres.html | Jan 26 11:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... [ http://ur1.ca/gi5zg ] | Jan 26 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I contacted him and others yesterday | Jan 26 11:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but I only found out it had gone online because you told me | Jan 26 11:53 |
| iophk | It has a lot of valuable pages, it is of value to Heise and of negligible maintenance costs (I would expect) and it could probably be converted to static pages if the current software is too much trouble. | Jan 26 11:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, that too | Jan 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | instead thet try to bloster the ranking of their pro-MS and pro-Apple site | Jan 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Heise.de | Jan 26 11:55 |
| iophk | That may be the real motivation behind the closure: pound the M$ drum | Jan 26 11:58 |
| iophk | yay Bill! | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe they can ask Bill to support the publicatiomn, toe H | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Bill says he likes sharing | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The H is about sharing | Jan 26 11:58 |
| iophk | And about promoting IT. Bill says he likes promoting IT. | Jan 26 11:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe bill can cobble together some lamp server | Jan 26 11:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he's an uber-technical guy | Jan 26 11:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google idiot wrote this code eller bill gates | Jan 26 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Story of Steve Jobs: An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale? | Wired ... | http://www.wired.com/business/2012/07/ff_stevejobs/all/ | Jan 26 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates: 'I wrote Steve Jobs a letter as he was dying. He kept it by ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/9041726/Bill-Gates-I-wrote-Steve-Jobs-a-letter-as-he-was-dying.-He-kept-it-by-his-bed.html | Jan 26 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Secret Origin of Windows - Technologizer | http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/ | Jan 26 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gates Says Biden, Clinton Would Make Good Presidents | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gates-clinton-biden-good-presidents | Jan 26 11:59 |
| iophk | yeah he invented the Inernet and PCs and sliced bread ... | Jan 26 11:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | wow, Bill really googlebombed it out of existence | Jan 26 12:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | mjust hgave cost a fortune to dump all those puff pieces on high pagerank sites | Jan 26 12:00 |
| iophk | Google ranking is quite ephemeral especially where M$ can dump on it. | Jan 26 12:00 |
| iophk | During the last week or so, one or more of the links posted mentioned Sweden's Carl Bildt leading some kind of commission to investigate NSA surveillance and overreach. That's almost a conflict of interest given where he sits politically. | Jan 26 12:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/GatoPreto19/status/427409005086908416 | Jan 26 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @GatoPreto19: @schestowitz Reporting Truth means Jail or Kill-Lists, nowadays.. Or was it that way since ever.. | Jan 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but not in the US. It used to be China, Russia.... | Jan 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yes, I wrote about this Bildt nonsense | Jan 26 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he';s a friend of Rove | Jan 26 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And a hawk | Jan 26 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google bildt nigger is a nigger | Jan 26 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - “A nigger is a nigger and a Swede is a Swede”. Top leaders of ... | http://professorsblogg.com/2013/12/08/a_niggera_swede/ | Jan 26 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bildt's Party & Mandela's Darkies | Rixstep Industry Watch | http://rixstep.com/1/20131210,00.shtml | Jan 26 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Twitter / wikileaks: “A nigger is a nigger and ... | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/409794738179436544 | Jan 26 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - “A Swede is a Swede & a Jew is a Jew”, says Carl Bildt. Analysing ... | http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-swede-is-swede-jew-is-jew-says-carl.html | Jan 26 12:03 |
| iophk | Yes, he will go through the motions and conclude that there is not enough surveillance. | Jan 26 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ah, wouldn't that be awesome for his mates? | Jan 26 12:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't even think about it like that | Jan 26 12:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I just said it was comical and a PR attempt | Jan 26 12:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427409054768824321 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427410763238891520 | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Finally it seems like people such as @glynmoody plan the use of #copyrights wisely http://t.co/zTPld4vSVp everyone should do this | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Is Still Sour For Some GPUs http://t.co/7KHw7Bdj62 #nvidia no good, def. not when it comes to freedom | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Is Still Sour For Some GPUs | Jan 26 12:05 |
| iophk | Some of the Swedish blog headlines translate to the goat being appointed head gardner or the the fox being appointed to watch the hen house and similar | Jan 26 12:05 |
| iophk | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/piratpartiet/pressreleases/loejevaeckande-att-carl-bildt-faatt-uppdraget-att-leda-internationell-kommission-foer-naetfrihet-951870 | Jan 26 12:06 |
| iophk | "Carl Bildt is potentially one of the least suitable people to lead efforts to chart the way for a freer and safer Internet for users" | Jan 26 12:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/gi627 ] | Jan 26 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What | Jan 26 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | I Aim to Do... http://t.co/vdwN1rDWtu | Jan 26 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi63b | Jan 26 12:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427413741521883136 | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama http://t.co/Eq26fQk0GI #fedora #gnu #linux #redhat | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Jan 26 12:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427415989211656192 | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Europe's Highest Court Says DRM Circumvention May Be Lawful In Certain Circumstances http://t.co/bek5MUAtFA #drm #copyright | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | Europe's Highest Court Says DRM Circumvention May Be Lawful In Certain Circumstances | Techdirt | Jan 26 12:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427416759411691520 | Jan 26 12:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The claim that #bildt will "investigate" the #nsa seems like a PR ploy, possibly designed to help "find" that NSA actions are "lawful" | Jan 26 12:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will look at some NSA news now | Jan 26 12:26 |
| iophk | Which politicians or investigating politicians own, own stock in or have friends in companies that make money off of NSA surveillance? | Jan 26 12:27 |
| *freedomrun has quit (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) | Jan 26 12:29 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427417831467405312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427417376460898305 | Jan 26 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Rich people: people are poor because they're lazy; Poor people, indoctrinated by rich people-owned media: I just need to work harder. | Jan 26 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Back when I was in #davos it was known for skiing and calm. Now it's associated with white-collar crime http://t.co/W9NIFa34xF | Jan 26 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> roarmag.org | State of Power 2014: Exposing the Davos Class | ROAR Magazine | Jan 26 12:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427418748291932160 | Jan 26 12:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #WEF held in #Davos so that the thieves can go check their bank accounts while they're traveling to "talk about poverty" in private jets. | Jan 26 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427419220067246081 | Jan 26 12:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Global warning is a problem, said man with a private jet, speaking about "giving" while hoarding additional $15.8bn http://t.co/dLfR4EcpTK | Jan 26 12:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution | Techrights | Jan 26 12:35 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | LOL | Jan 26 12:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Rep. Peter King on Saturday blasted a new resolution from the Republican National Committee concerning the National Security Agency," | Jan 26 12:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'King | Jan 26 12:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google peter kind wikileaks | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist ... | http://observer.com/2010/11/peter-king-on-why-wikileaks-should-be-declared-a-terrorist-organization-video/ | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rep. Peter King: Prosecute WikiLeaks, Julian Assange - Jennifer ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45667.html | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Peter King: Declare Wikileaks A Terrorist Organization | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/peter-king-declare-wikileaks-a-terrorist-organization | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - WikiLeaks Is A Terror Outfit: Rep. Peter King : It's All Politics : NPR | http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/11/29/131664547/wikileaks-is-a-terror-outfit-rep-peter-king | Jan 26 12:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google peter king wikileaks | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist ... | http://observer.com/2010/11/peter-king-on-why-wikileaks-should-be-declared-a-terrorist-organization-video/ | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rep. Peter King: Prosecute WikiLeaks, Julian Assange - Jennifer ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45667.html | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - WikiLeaks Is A Terror Outfit: Rep. Peter King : It's All Politics : NPR | http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/11/29/131664547/wikileaks-is-a-terror-outfit-rep-peter-king | Jan 26 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20023941-38.html | Jan 26 12:40 |
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| iophk | "Besides Bildt chaired we find in the group Michael Chertoff. He worked for George W. Bush in the U.S. Homeland Security and was one of the brains behind the Patriot Act. A brilliant name to protect the right to freedom and privacy online - from the NSA's perspective. Another is Sir David Omand. He was previously head of GCHQ. " | Jan 26 12:45 |
| iophk | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://motpol.blogspot.se/2014/01/bildt-utreder-internets-framtid-nsa.html | Jan 26 12:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/gi6a0 ] | Jan 26 12:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427419804786769920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427420165253640193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427420297843965952 | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa executives and facilitators should be trialled for #espionage http://t.co/m6W6t073RI http://t.co/nSZnxs426w http://t.co/CfHy9D8UxD | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dw.de | Snowden NSA economic espionage claim broadcast as teaser to first TV interview | News | DW.DE | 26.01.2014 | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.scmp.com | NSA also serves economic interests: Snowden interview | South China Morning Post | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NO TITLE | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Tim Cook, who let the #nsa get access through #prism , says #NSA doesn't have "back door access" to Apple servers. #liar #timcook #apple | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: In a way, Tim Cook is correct; there are no back doors, none are needed. #apple is just granting the #nsa physical, free access to data. | Jan 26 12:48 |
| iophk | front-door access then | Jan 26 12:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427421795135021056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427421639169835008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427422011506577408 | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Get 'em while they're young," they say... http://t.co/wCmJ5sSsit | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> io9.com | The NSA's website for kids isn't creepy. Nope. Not creepy at all. | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "send an e-mail without worrying what it will look like on their permanent record." http://t.co/LcZBo7jdO9 #nsa | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.maximumpc.com | Edward Snowden Elaborates on NSA, Spying | Maximum PC | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hawk for #nsa shows no signs of abolishing. #CIA Post: "White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden declined to comment" http://t.co/cILobCdAEK | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.washingtonpost.com | Obama signs off on nomination of Rogers as NSA director - The Washington Post | Jan 26 12:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Jan 26 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GA8iWJe4I1 | Jan 26 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6c6 | Jan 26 12:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423208107933696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423312177029120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423755984723970 | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: You know we're seriously *ed when tech executives say to us there's no back door simply because NSA is secretly using front door (collusion) | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Crushing people's morale https://t.co/tPiIDRetFy | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Aldous Huxley saw it coming https://t.co/LXftL8yUOT | Jan 26 12:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427424428914642944 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427424899637194752 | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa is all about business, serving the oligarchs who own and control the nation http://t.co/Jv5w7dDrlN http://t.co/V4p7CDctEI | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.expatica.com | NSA also serves economic interests: Snowden interview < German news | Expatica Germany | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.sbs.com.au | NSA serves economic interests: Snowden | SBS News | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Death squads have assassinated eight trade union leaders in Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia." http://t.co/BGQwMVxO5u | Jan 26 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thirdworldtraveler.com | Stop Killer Coke! Death squads have assassinated eight trade union leaders in Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia. The Stop Killer Coke campaign holds the beverage giant responsible. | Jan 26 12:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427426087879319552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427426648418701312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427427455876755456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427427859909865472 | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Politico continues to give a platform to radicals http://t.co/5SLVKJzkyr whatever gives them hits | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.politico.com | Peter King slams RNC on NSA resolution - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "As it tries to protect us from the “bad guys,” the government has become more intrusive in our lives." http://t.co/yz4Ud9FkyL | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.aberdeennews.com | Letter: NSA tramples freedoms - AberdeenNews.com: Letters | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why is it always ABC (clue: conflict of interest) that's whitewashing #apple abuses? Not even a pretense of independence in media anymore. | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #cellphones : people "line up at stores to pay for the latest model of these monitoring devices." http://t.co/pM3ozDENaa | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Diary: My NSA Nightmare Last Night | OpEdNews | Jan 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427428742559195136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427428929432219650 | Jan 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How Many People Have Died in 5 Years of [Obama|NSA|CIA] #Drone Wars? ~2400 http://t.co/Vhw4uqF8ot http://t.co/jvttWgRBxt | Jan 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.policymic.com | How Many People Have Died in 5 Years of Drone Wars? - PolicyMic | Jan 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> english.farsnews.com | Farsnews | Jan 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Two former US officials criticize #drone war http://t.co/I4S1twFErQ "military general and another top counter-terrorism advisor" | Jan 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.nation.lk | nation.lk ::: - Two former US officials criticize drone war | Jan 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427430034866204672 | Jan 26 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "prosecutors are preparing to investigate allegations that #CIA ran secret detention camps in the county's forests" http://t.co/ruNR4FHb4R | Jan 26 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.worldbulletin.net | Poland to probe secret CIA prisons | Europe | World Bulletin | Jan 26 13:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427431180003450880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427431702630510592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427432212037124096 | Jan 26 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies https://t.co/3ZPLKp19YC #germany #ebergy | Jan 26 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> beyondrevolution.wordpress.com | Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies | Beyond Revolution | Jan 26 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: There are people who would work 60 hours per week for oligarchs and not spend one minute reading criticism, let alone attend a protest. | Jan 26 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Neo-Feudalism a taboo https://t.co/8uDWXatbOS | Jan 26 13:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558780 | Jan 26 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are people who would work 60 hours per week for oligarchs and not spend one minute reading criticism, let alone attend a protest. | Jan 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They can't even walk their dogs: https://pod.orkz.net/posts/898859 " | Jan 26 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | pod.orkz.net | ### #WTF?? | Jan 26 13:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427434549925404672 | Jan 26 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Definitely NOT to be used: hardware-level crypto (i.e. cryptic algo) in #amd #linux http://t.co/eq6Ng9ncsz avoid, it's a US company. #nsa | Jan 26 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Linux 3.14 Supports AMD's Cryptographic Coprocessor | Jan 26 13:43 |
| iophk | forgetting the illegal per-processor fees they had to compete against: | Jan 26 13:46 |
| iophk | http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mac-pioneers-lauded-as-apple-celebrates-30-years-of-macintosh-computers/story-fnjwukfu-1226810909050 | Jan 26 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.news.com.au | Mac pioneers lauded as Apple celebrates 30 years of Macintosh computers | News.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/gi6mt ] | Jan 26 13:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427438098507898880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427438687560138752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427439060723204096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427439410758840320 | Jan 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "It's alarming that few girls or students of color are taking computer science classes." http://t.co/v39T4CWD03 | Jan 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.motherjones.com | America's Coming Geek Gap | Mother Jones | Jan 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #linuxfoundation is trying hard to paint #linux development as multi-cultural and sex-agnostic. Commendable marketing, but unrealistic. | Jan 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Foes of FOSS have for a long time tried to portray FOSS as causing the gender gap (in CS). This has become a good way to identify FOSS foes. | Jan 26 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: It is widely known that the #cia traditionally used "human rights", "racism", and "women's rights" to justify (to public) economic coups | Jan 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427439254218616832 | Jan 26 13:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz there's a lot more women in proprietary dev than open source. those are the numbers. | Jan 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If the difference is 5% versus, say, 15%, then it's not so statistically significant. I heard this argument before. | Jan 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Negative discrimination plays a role in it. That is, contrary to the usual claims, companies often hire women for "balance" | Jan 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427441470082002944 | Jan 26 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz show me substantiation for this claim | Jan 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | personal stories; for statistical substantiation, someone will need to fund super controversial study | Jan 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427441674613039105 | Jan 26 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz it's 1% versus 15%. there is actually a problem. burying your head in the sand is avoidant behaviour. | Jan 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 1% for KDE maybe. Very different in FOSS companies, which also include various roles. | Jan 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I work for a FOSS company where about half the staff is female, inc. technical roles | Jan 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/unclepete_100/status/427442206429810688 | Jan 26 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @unclepete_100: @schestowitz Quelle surprise. | Jan 26 14:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427441800824258560 | Jan 26 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Digital footprints (spurious and unwanted), such as "utm_source=feedburner", show the infinite greed for offline #surveillance too | Jan 26 14:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558815 | Jan 26 14:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Definitely NOT to be used: hardware-level crypto (i.e. cryptic algo) in #amd #linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4MTM avoid, it's a US company. #nsa | Jan 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "what do you use?" | Jan 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One should use FOSS and not offload computation such as this to the co-processor | Jan 26 14:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427444277267169280 | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fast and loose with the term "Insider Trading" which is a crime http://t.co/jmtZ0h5HUG that's how some plutocrats get richer | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.fxnewscall.com | Recent Insider Trading: Facebook Inc (FB), Intel , Questcor, Red Hat, Texas Instruments, Verizon Communications | FX News Call | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New malware uses Windows to infect Android | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | devices http://t.co/6wc3lK0eXX | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6ta | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pwnium hackathon: Google offers over $2 million | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in rewards http://t.co/XqyohYixZv | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6tb | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | New malware uses Windows to infect Android devices | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Pwnium hackathon: Google offers over $2 million in rewards | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support. http://t.co/TmSTh5R04U | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6tc | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for RAW Images http://t.co/6DEN8Miw1B | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6td | Jan 26 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:22 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jan 26 14:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 26 14:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 26 14:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | TV is the appeal for others to find for you what you might find entertaining, usually because one cannot entertain oneself | Jan 26 14:37 |
| MinceR | dunno, i watch more tv programs on the web than on the tv :> | Jan 26 14:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427448000856989696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427448683442208769 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427449324810022912 | Jan 26 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Reading as an 'app' https://t.co/kZ7ftBia5W | Jan 26 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: CNN, after firing journalists in droves, warns #twitter and #facebook http://t.co/SCKsfgk8k4 | Jan 26 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Why Twitter should watch its back - CNN.com | Jan 26 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Google is watching you, with the help of fools who pay top bucks for #CCTV equipment http://t.co/wm3mRKJPsY | Jan 26 14:39 |
| Sosumi | pict of the day | Jan 26 14:58 |
| Sosumi | http://rense.com/1.imagesH/TPP-(R).jpg | Jan 26 14:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://rense.com/1.imagesH/TPP-(R ) | Jan 26 14:59 |
| Sosumi | TPPzila | Jan 26 14:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I see they've inserted some conpiracy theories into it | Jan 26 15:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559069 | Jan 26 15:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @kelvinpittman@diasp.org: via @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} | Jan 26 15:06 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427457806342828032 | Jan 26 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Discussion and education, one person at a time https://t.co/ozaBFyw3wH | Jan 26 15:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427458610483191809 | Jan 26 15:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Even the US government won't use US phones http://t.co/UIw3cfPZRj US phones have back doors. | Jan 26 15:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> chycho.blogspot.ca | chycho: The Irony and the Hypocrisy, the U.S. Department of Defense Is Using Blackberry for Its Privacy (Update on The Surveillance State) | Jan 26 15:15 |
| *iophk (~iophk@unaffiliated/iophk) has joined #techrights | Jan 26 15:25 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to iophk | Jan 26 15:25 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427461069385510912 | Jan 26 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Shortly after #billgates started to bribe 'guardian' it became very Google-hostile, even when #microsoft does worse http://t.co/MTnBKlgl7L | Jan 26 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Why Google Android software is not as free or open-source as you may think | Technology | theguardian.com | Jan 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Charles Arhur again | Jan 26 15:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427461734769901569 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427462091461914624 | Jan 26 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images http://t.co/rlv81x5jzs #gnome #gnu #linux #software | Jan 26 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images | Jan 26 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/I56cZVFwp7 uber benchmark. #linux #phoronix | Jan 26 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Jan 26 15:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427463381059383296 | Jan 26 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hacking Open the Data Center http://t.co/hR8Kw0qmqS #sharing | Jan 26 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> recode.net | Hacking Open the Data Center | Re/code | Jan 26 15:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's good to see phoronic returning to hardware science and journalism as opposed to gossip and personalities cult | Jan 26 15:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427465711695724544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466205407240192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466760242352128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466940672933888 | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa #dropbox is worth a lot of money, but to who? http://t.co/mToB2X2YoG #datahoarding #marketing #prism #masssurveillance #surveillance | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.wsj.com | The Morning Download: Dropbox’s $10 Billion Valuation Shows Pull of Consumerization - The CIO Report - WSJ | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA: Monetising/extorting millions of fools who upload their data to some remote (in US) server and take cameras (phones) to their bathroom | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The best alternative for #dropbox is called "hard drive" (it's this thing you put in your machine), not #nsa traps: http://t.co/ImeMYqSYb6 | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.cbronline.com | 5 Dropbox alternatives for the small business - Computer Business Review | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "According to a new report by Splashdata, the most common password in 2013 was “123456”" http://t.co/uP9fKfNx99 | Jan 26 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gulfnews.com | ‘Password’ no longer the Internet’s worst password | GulfNews.com | Jan 26 15:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/24/twitter-box-dropbox-attracting-hordes-of-employees-away-from-tech-giants/ | Jan 26 15:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | venturebeat.com | Twitter, Box, and Dropbox attracting hordes of employees away from tech giants | VentureBeat | Business | by Rebecca Grant [ http://ur1.ca/gi78d ] | Jan 26 15:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427468352614064128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427468904827723776 | Jan 26 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #outage at #nsa #dropbox "was caused by internal maintenance," according to DropBox. Setting up more doors for NSA? http://t.co/L99zQJZ2qa | Jan 26 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wired.co.uk | Hackers claim responsibility for Dropbox outage (Wired UK) | Jan 26 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "US Investigative Journalist Michael Hastings told an incredible story when he returned from his 2010 trip" http://t.co/gDdNLAUf1M | Jan 26 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | How economic warfare killed the People's Bank — RT Op-Edge | Jan 26 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Comparison http://t.co/PrfhBxIFoV | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi798 | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking Open the Data Center | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IVfROTDbSd | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi799 | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Hacking Open the Data Center | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470039886086144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470376734433281 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470698979004416 | Jan 26 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hidden ownership (also of the corporate media, as a World Bank whistleblower explained last year) https://t.co/Oo9LOVOLqk | Jan 26 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Science "another religion" response https://t.co/cPkNizwPxA | Jan 26 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #FBI priorities http://t.co/AfXhH7zr9y | Jan 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 26 16:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Why is Jobs overlaid on top of the British flag? That disgraceful sociopath was not British. | Jan 26 16:01 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: what search engine would you recommend? | Jan 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | none at the moment | Jan 26 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ixquick sold out | Jan 26 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and I don't know what to use anymore | Jan 26 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427474506333306880 | Jan 26 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: New Screenshots Galleries http://t.co/n0U2JExn5E :Instructionals http://t.co/b5lwS0KsEz : Games http://t.co/FyZEuNUu70 | Jan 26 16:16 |
| XFaCE | there's always that p2p one | Jan 26 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | New Screenshots Galleries | Techrights | Jan 26 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 26/1/2014: Instructionals | Techrights | Jan 26 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 26/1/2014: Games | Techrights | Jan 26 16:16 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: how did they sell out exactly? | Jan 26 16:16 |
| XFaCE | I missed the tweet/article | Jan 26 16:16 |
| XFaCE | or rather I can't remember what it said | Jan 26 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they signed up with Google last year | Jan 26 16:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | AdSense and stuff | Jan 26 16:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they also opened an office and server side in the US | Jan 26 16:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So it is no longer a Dutch thing, and the government can force them to hand over users' dara | Jan 26 16:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *data | Jan 26 16:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/mageia-4-and-more/ #mageia #pclinuxos #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jan 26 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi58z ] | Jan 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Tanx Roy, I have just installed mageia 3 in my nephew's laptop, an old Dell precision notebook, so I'm not happy to view this fast upgrade trend. In my opinion the cycles release could be more time long. One or one and half year are too much short. Ok the Mageia is a cutting-edge distribution but I like a more LTS version. Bye the way Mageia rulezzz :)" | Jan 26 16:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427478182963720192 | Jan 26 16:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hear, see, speak https://t.co/GIHs7kz5Og | Jan 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://blog.tenstral.net/2014/01/next-stop-fosdem14.html | Jan 26 16:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blog.tenstral.net | Ximion's Blog » Blog Archive » Next stop: FOSDEM’14 [ http://ur1.ca/gi7if ] | Jan 26 16:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427479291581190144 | Jan 26 16:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Making #apple even angrier at #android http://t.co/hxl6jYJeHj | Jan 26 16:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.junauza.com | How to Give your Android Smartphone the iOS 7 Look | TechSource | Jan 26 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/Z0hNUuGYhj | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7ku | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/iHw2HPJ53o | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7kv | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/7hwHAvTyZc | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7kw | Jan 26 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 26 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 26 16:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427482413678493696 | Jan 26 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Interview: Linus #Torvalds - "I don't read code any more" http://t.co/sPb2M37DZd reposted, still interesting | Jan 26 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: Interview: Linus Torvalds - "I don't read code any more" | Jan 26 16:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/01/25/military-industrial-complex-needs-al-qaeda-best-enemy-money-can-buy/ | Jan 26 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dcclothesline.com | Why the Military Industrial Complex Needs Al-Qaeda, the Best Enemy Money Can Buy | [ http://ur1.ca/gi7lx ] | Jan 26 16:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'When Ted Cruz infamously warned against the U.S. acting as “Al-Qaeda’s air force,” he was referring to White House support for rebel jihadists in Syria, the most effective of whom represent groups like ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra." | Jan 26 16:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Lost up north https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_9adbe3bbc6fbf53a9818.gif | Jan 26 17:02 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7951101440 | Jan 26 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | Obama Wants to Give Your Toys to Other Kids - Cheezburger | Jan 26 17:03 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7950557184 | Jan 26 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | What the Government Thinks of Citizens Who Want Their Privacy - Cheezburger | Jan 26 17:06 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/edward-snowden-nsa-industrial-sabotage | Jan 26 17:09 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/26/snowden-nsa_n_4668661.html | Jan 26 17:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | German TV: Edward Snowden says NSA is involved in industrial sabotage | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi7q7 ] | Jan 26 17:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | German TV: Snowden Says NSA Also Spies On Industry [ http://ur1.ca/gi7q8 ] | Jan 26 17:09 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427488442441027584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427488920495198208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427489392081788928 | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "leaders want to officially state their displeasure with federal military policy during the “war on..."" (dissent) http://t.co/cohdVpEzwg | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> americanfreepress.net | States Say “Stop” to NDAA | American Free Press | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ndaa Nullification "Trend Is Spreading" http://t.co/jJvnqAmunP "nullify unconstitutional acts of the federal government." | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.thenewamerican.com | Wall Street Journal Takes Notice: Nullification "Trend Is Spreading" | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ndaa = "presidential authority, to arrest, kidnap, detain without trial and hold indefinitely American citizens" http://t.co/23Xg3jUmIL | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.libertynewsonline.com | THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT - HAS CONGRESS GRANTED OBAMA FREE REIN TO INSTITUTE MARTIAL LAW? | Jan 26 17:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427490328149778432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427490769185042432 | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: British MPs demand scrutiny of US military bases amid spying reports http://t.co/C3qVohSPvA based that help maim and kill | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | British MPs demand scrutiny of US military bases amid spying reports — RT News | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #cia did not give #Karzai ENOUGH black bags full of cash http://t.co/rRNyjMUhe6 #drones #assassination | Jan 26 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> tribune.com.pk | Karzai to US: Start talks with Taliban or leave – The Express Tribune | Jan 26 17:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "One and half year is not enough for me. If I Installed mageia3 3 month late and I don't want the risk to have a not supported O.S., I have only one year of true use of mageia. I must to upgrade some months in advance because: * buy new hardware (HD, SSD) * have time to upgrade * buy flash memory for safety backup * have time to set-up the new DE (Desktop environment) if is a new installation (/home preserved) * ecc ecc usually I | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | have both the old mageia and the new because the troubles with the hardware and software often occurs." | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Mageia is the best distribution for me, I'm a Mageia supporter so I criticize It ;)" | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ' | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Google's been doing an awfully good job of generating its own home-grown hostility. | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | From 1998 to about 2005, I was overwhelmingly supportive of the company. | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | With the release of Gmail, I started to have my concerns. It's a good product, but handing my search and email data to the same company calls for a huge investment of trust. | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Over the 2.5 years I've watched Google+ play out and develop, my attitude has turned sharply negative. The company's behavior cannot simply be seen as benign, as I've noted, even with the best of intentions, [Google cannot protect its users against a nation-sized advanced persistent threat. | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And I'm no longer convinced in the least Google has the best of intentions. | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Search + mail + phone + Nest .... | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Really, the uncanny valley of creepiness has been well and truly entered. | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 17:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1u356d/schmidt_my_biggest_mistake_is_still_not_realizing/ | Jan 26 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.reddit.com | Schmidt: My biggest mistake is still not realizing my biggest mistake : dredmorbius [ http://ur1.ca/gi7ua ] | Jan 26 17:29 |
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| roy_ | hey | Jan 26 19:42 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427521400316764160 | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz @glynmoody how extremely annoying | Jan 26 19:44 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559561 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559675 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559946 | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Patents Roundup: SCOTUS, Qualcomm, and ‘Beneficial’ ‘Innovations’ (Patent Troll) http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/scotus-qualcomm/ #scotus #swpats #foss #linux | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Patents Roundup: SCOTUS, Qualcomm, and ‘Beneficial’ ‘Innovations’ (Patent Troll) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m1 ] | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bringing #TheH Open/H-Online Articles Back Online Without Help From #Heise http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/against-heise-deletionism/ hopefully, others can follow @glynmoody | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Bringing The H Open/H-Online Articles Back Online Without Help From Heise | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m2 ] | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m4 ] | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/iVrUbYaRqs | Jan 26 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi8rw | Jan 26 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:03 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427532194048139264 | Jan 26 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Today in Techrights http://t.co/zFVoxR4Dwv #techrights | Jan 26 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:04 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560035 | Jan 26 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Conclusion of the day re #e17 : plasma-desktop (KDE4) can be run under Enlightenment but it's windowed and klipper still not supported | Jan 26 20:13 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/427527032713383936 | Jan 26 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @EllieAsksWhy: @davidgerard Articles were to remain accessible! I didn't know you read H-Online. I liked the fora, only read though, shy @schestowitz | Jan 26 20:15 |
| iophk | Is there a good link to a promise to keep The H articles online? Or was that on the H site itself? | Jan 26 20:16 |
| roy_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546218/Birds-released-Vatican-gesture-peace-immediately-attacked-vicious-seagull-crow.html | Jan 26 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | Doves released in the Vatican are immediately attacked by seagull and crow | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gi8up ] | Jan 26 20:19 |
| roy_ | On The H | Jan 26 20:20 |
| roy_ | dj said so | Jan 26 20:20 |
| iophk | Was it more advertising money from M$ which motivated them to pull the plug? | Jan 26 20:20 |
| iophk | http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-why-it-s-the-third-gaming-platform-1214797 | Jan 26 20:34 |
| iophk | PS4 ? | Jan 26 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 26 20:34 |
| MinceR | the article claims that's linux-based | Jan 26 20:36 |
| iophk | Yeah, it looked that way. | Jan 26 20:36 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/streaming-comes-to-steam-run-on-your-gaming-rig-play-on-your-laptop/ | Jan 26 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Streaming comes to Steam: run on your gaming rig, play on your laptop | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi8xh ] | Jan 26 20:37 |
| iophk | Maybe using the M$ definition where all non-M$ stuff is "linux" | Jan 26 20:37 |
| Sosumi | awesome and works on linux too | Jan 26 20:37 |
| Sosumi | and it is local streaming | Jan 26 20:39 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 26 21:44 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560044 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560050 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560062 | Jan 26 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How To See All The Companies That Are Tracking You On Facebook — And Block Them | Jan 26 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessinsider.com | See All The Companies That Are Tracking You On Facebook — And Block Them - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gi9hi ] | Jan 26 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ARD - Interview mit Edward Snowden 26 01 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alxpfco7Bq4 #abc acts as though it's surprised | Jan 26 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | ARD - Interview mit Edward Snowden 26 01 2014 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gi8qt ] | Jan 26 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's time to stop investing in the fossil fuel industry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/30/fossil-fuel-divestment-climate-change IMG: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_d7ae1605d41e6f99b0af.jpg | Jan 26 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | It's time to stop investing in the fossil fuel industry | Bill McKibben | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi9hn ] | Jan 26 22:13 |
| roy_ | https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427567466727100417 https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568159349301248 https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568423925972993 | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r7 ] | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r8 ] | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r9 ] | Jan 26 22:29 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427567466727100417 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568159349301248 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568423925972993 | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell http://t.co/jBav1Gws6x #ibm #nsa | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell | Techrights | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA director https://t.co/Uw8CrYLJgo | Jan 26 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Saving world https://t.co/FvGDukbwlL | Jan 26 22:29 |
| roy_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1661855_281042458715294_1051054185_n.jpg | Jan 26 22:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a Company’s Death Knell http://t.co/fC3YgHFT1H | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giafb | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in the living room' http://t.co/XD804BptZ5 | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell | Tux Machines | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giafc | Jan 26 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' | Tux Machines | Jan 26 23:18 |
| roy_ | http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/shelves_and_gadgets.html | Jan 26 23:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bodhilinux.com | Bodhi Guide to Enlightenment - Shelves and Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/giafm ] | Jan 26 23:20 |
| roy_ | http://e17-stuff.org/ | Jan 26 23:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | e17-stuff.org | Everything for your Enlightenment Desktop - E17-Stuff.org | Jan 26 23:21 |
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| roy_ | wow | Jan 26 23:45 |
| roy_ | I think elive being non-free led to this: http://e17-stuff.org/groups/?id=271 | Jan 26 23:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | e17-stuff.org | Group E17-Stuff.org | Jan 26 23:45 |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560650 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560649 | Jan 27 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/62964 #steam #gnu #linux | Jan 27 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' | Tux Machines | Jan 27 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: While experimenting with gadgets, themes, extensions for Enlightenment I found this group, maybe ELive-associated http://e17-stuff.org/groups/?id=271 | Jan 27 00:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm so mad right now. | Jan 27 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Somehow, Facebook posted a timeline update with a picture that my bf posted of his ex last year before he met me. | Jan 27 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | and it flagged it as a new post | Jan 27 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | So I called him and screamed at him, and then he had no idea what I was angry about. | Jan 27 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing good ever comes from Facebook. | Jan 27 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering switching back to Kubuntu. I've used Fedora for a little over a year. | Jan 27 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | The 14.04 LTS will have components that are new enough to do everything I want to do. | Jan 27 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1601033_752695911408056_1883262209_n.jpg | Jan 27 03:27 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gawker.com/coca-cola-wants-to-share-a-coke-but-not-with-gay-peopl-1509595122?rev=1390796154 | Jan 27 04:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gawker.com | Coca-Cola Wants to Share a Coke, But Not With Gay People [ http://ur1.ca/gic5l ] | Jan 27 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Coke much anyway. | Jan 27 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | When I go out to eat these days, I get water. | Jan 27 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | The price of Coke products at restaurants has gotten so bad that it can add $3 to your bill for each person. | Jan 27 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | Tim and I just get water when we go out for dinner. | Jan 27 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | I had a waiter at Applebees try to bring me a "Dasani" bottled water and charge me $2 for it. | Jan 27 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "No, that's not what I wanted. I wanted tap water. | Jan 27 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | So now I specify "tap water". | Jan 27 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Who pays $2 for a 20 ounce bottle of water? | Jan 27 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Tim needs new tires. His rear tires are worn down so bad that they're bald. He had one go flat so I put some tire slime in it and reinflated it. | Jan 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | You don't want to do that to a tire that has lots of tread left on it, because then nobody will patch it. | Jan 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | But the tire is basically finished and he just needs to get around for a few more days on it. | Jan 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | I run mine down until they're bald too, unless it's winter. | Jan 27 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | Tires have really gotten expensive, because the federal government is imposing import tariffs on them now. | Jan 27 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | A $55 tire in 2007 is now an $85 tire. :P | Jan 27 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | So if you can run them for a few more months, it makes sense to do that. | Jan 27 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/651531-fiber-one-bars-good-or-bad-4-u | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.myfitnesspal.com | Fiber one bars...good or bad 4 u? | MyFitnessPal.com [ http://ur1.ca/gic88 ] | Jan 27 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | Fiber bars remind me of that "bad gas explosion" question on that IQ test. | Jan 27 04:47 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gawker.com/evil-triumphs-satanic-birds-attack-popes-peace-doves-1509242394 | Jan 27 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gawker.com | Evil Triumphs: Satanic Birds Attack Pope's Peace Doves [ http://ur1.ca/giczz ] | Jan 27 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jan 27 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR will like that. | Jan 27 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | "The children were young, impressionable, and are now likely ruined." | Jan 27 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | And that was just from being raped by the priests before seeing the birds attacked. | Jan 27 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 27 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1521936_10153756588540486_1597010073_n.jpg | Jan 27 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://readwrite.com/2014/01/23/why-the-linux-desktop-never-mattered | Jan 27 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | readwrite.com | Why The Linux Desktop Doesn't Matter Anymore – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/ghl1m ] | Jan 27 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | Matt Asay writes an anti-Linux hit piece. | Jan 27 08:18 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 27 09:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: awesome | Jan 27 09:16 |
| MinceR | if they knew a bit about how doves behave, they wouldn't have associated peace with them | Jan 27 09:23 |
| MinceR | anyway | Jan 27 09:24 |
| gde33 | I just had the thought that net neutrality might be a bad idea | Jan 27 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung, Google sign patent deal | Jan 27 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G2uTxQbE4D | Jan 27 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidik | Jan 27 09:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung, Google sign patent deal | Tux Machines | Jan 27 09:30 |
| gde33 | I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 09:30 |
| gde33 | if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 09:30 |
| iophk | I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. | Jan 27 09:31 |
| gde33 | it might just be great if you had to pay for things | Jan 27 09:31 |
| iophk | Maybe it will be really great if the carriers can charge for both ends of the connection instead of just the one. | Jan 27 09:32 |
| gde33 | it seems nesasary | Jan 27 09:32 |
| iophk | And thus kill the goose that has been laying the golden eggs. | Jan 27 09:32 |
| gde33 | the alternative is to create google and bling monsters | Jan 27 09:33 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Samsung, Google sign patent deal http://t.co/G2uTxQbE4D' | Jan 27 09:33 | |
| gde33 | I'm not so sure about that | Jan 27 09:33 |
| iophk | False dichotomy. The net, with net neutrality, has made a lot of money for a lot of people and their businesses. | Jan 27 09:33 |
| gde33 | I think people who make it their goal not to earn money are never going to have the influence they seek | Jan 27 09:33 |
| iophk | There's probably precious few small businesses without a web presence. | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | Anything bigger has a serious web site. | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | it isn't a system that favors the little guy at all | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | it favors the big and fat | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | Eliminating net neutrality will eliminate the little guy all together. | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | nonsense | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | Too many fees. | Jan 27 09:35 |
| iophk | Double billing . | Jan 27 09:35 |
| gde33 | I would just get an internet contract with those things as well | Jan 27 09:35 |
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| gde33 | not double | Jan 27 09:35 |
| gde33 | just have those pay who should pay | Jan 27 09:35 |
| gde33 | google is earning 50 bucks for a click | Jan 27 09:35 |
| iophk | They already are. | Jan 27 09:35 |
| gde33 | I have to pay for the pipe? | Jan 27 09:35 |
| gde33 | make me laugh? | Jan 27 09:35 |
| iophk | They're paying already. | Jan 27 09:35 |
| iophk | You're paying for your end already. | Jan 27 09:35 |
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| gde33 | people also dont aperciate content if it is free | Jan 27 09:36 |
| iophk | "content" | Jan 27 09:36 |
| iophk | It's already paid for. | Jan 27 09:36 |
| gde33 | dont apperciate anythign that is free | Jan 27 09:36 |
| gde33 | take it for granted | Jan 27 09:36 |
| iophk | Name one web site that is not paid for by somebody or some company / org? | Jan 27 09:36 |
| iophk | It's all paid for, plenty of money sloshing around out there now. | Jan 27 09:37 |
| gde33 | no offense to poor people but that type of traffic just isn't worth the bandwith | Jan 27 09:37 |
| iophk | "Name one web site that is not paid for by somebody or some company / org?" | Jan 27 09:38 |
| gde33 | that is just to pay for the centraly controlled server design flaw | Jan 27 09:39 |
| MinceR | 102940 < gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 09:39 |
| MinceR | fame or fun is often enough reward | Jan 27 09:39 |
| gde33 | no it isn't | Jan 27 09:39 |
| iophk | or actual money | Jan 27 09:39 |
| iophk | Volkswagen makes money off of their web presence. | Jan 27 09:40 |
| iophk | So does Netflix. | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | I want to be an artist and make a living doing that, if my art sucks it wont work I understand that, if it doesn't suck I would need a day job with it? | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | the audience is just cheap | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | thats what is wrong | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | want the fruits of my labor for free | Jan 27 09:40 |
| MinceR | also, eliminating net neutrality will merely increase the barriers to entry for little guys | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | I'm trying but it is very limited | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | I'm not seeing that | Jan 27 09:41 |
| MinceR | also, not all artists make a living from art | Jan 27 09:41 |
| iophk | Most art only has value after the demise of the artist. | Jan 27 09:42 |
| gde33 | I think you should spend your money how you like | Jan 27 09:42 |
| iophk | Many famous works are that way. | Jan 27 09:42 |
| gde33 | if that shuold be made impossible we should get rid of money | Jan 27 09:42 |
| gde33 | dont blame the internet for how things work? | Jan 27 09:42 |
| iophk | So why are you blaming the net then? | Jan 27 09:43 |
| gde33 | my curiosity was triggered by it not being such a bad idea as it seemed at first | Jan 27 09:43 |
| iophk | Nothing stops you for putting up a paywall on your site. | Jan 27 09:43 |
| gde33 | lots of things stop me from doing that | Jan 27 09:43 |
| gde33 | how would you like to pay? | Jan 27 09:44 |
| iophk | Offer several options. | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | howabout a contract with your service provider | Jan 27 09:45 |
| iophk | No ISPs that I know of offer gated communities in that way. | Jan 27 09:45 |
| iophk | You need to set up your own paywall.. | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | every man for himself | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | or else it wouldn't be neutral | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | lmao | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | it isn't going to work | Jan 27 09:45 |
| iophk | It works for some. | Jan 27 09:46 |
| gde33 | it should be a subscription system | Jan 27 09:46 |
| iophk | It seems to work for Netflix | Jan 27 09:46 |
| gde33 | so that I can get packages with stuff in them | Jan 27 09:46 |
| MinceR | so, every isp/media conglomerate for itself? | Jan 27 09:46 |
| gde33 | we need a system to get the money from the end user into the developer pockets | Jan 27 09:46 |
| gde33 | the ISP is THE way to do this | Jan 27 09:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/andrew_roffey/status/427737298763915265 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/427737452174782464 | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @andrew_roffey: @schestowitz it looks like @glynmoody has his blog licensed as CC0 which means it should be easier for his work to be republished | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @andrew_roffey @schestowitz yup | Jan 27 09:47 |
| iophk | You're talking net tax instead now. | Jan 27 09:47 |
| gde33 | there we have evidence of payments, known customer base etc etc | Jan 27 09:47 |
| MinceR | there are many micropayment providers, there could be even more | Jan 27 09:47 |
| iophk | flattr, bitcoin, moneybookers, etc. | Jan 27 09:47 |
| MinceR | bitcoin and the like might also be used | Jan 27 09:47 |
| gde33 | my paywall would burn off 99.999% of my traffic | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | not that traffic would happen of course | Jan 27 09:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427739333748326400 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427735666110521344 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427735334529794048 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427730491933224961 | Jan 27 09:48 |
| iophk | I feel bad for the fellow who bought a pizza with a large number of bitcoins a few years back. | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: [RT] Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States http://t.co/H1ajh8UYhv … #amd #linux #nsa | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Techrights | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Samsung, Google sign patent deal http://t.co/BdjEArOUWW #patent #samsung #google #android | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung, Google sign patent deal - Muktware | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Privacy News: Ten States Against the NSA, Snowden Speaks About Espionage http://t.co/KM5gpejsDP #nsa #privacy | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Privacy News: Ten States Against the NSA, Snowden Speaks About Espionage | Techrights | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life http://t.co/9HLK8Ep8Ki remember when the #fbi sent letters with death threats? | Jan 27 09:48 |
| MinceR | so you'd instead force the users to pay through the one ISP that's available in their area? | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | iophk: I use to lurk the channel read the daily bitcoin skeptic | Jan 27 09:48 |
| iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2013/12/23/the-bitcoin-pizza-purchase-thats-worth-7-million-today/ | Jan 27 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | The Bitcoin Pizza Purchase That's Worth $7 Million Today - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gidlr ] | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | iophk: those would all be milionares now :P | Jan 27 09:48 |
| MinceR | and have the isp block your site if they don't want to let you sell access? | Jan 27 09:48 |
| MinceR | for example, if they run a competing site | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | that should be the only excuse not to grant access | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | running the wrong payment processor is not a good excuse not to make money | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | I wish the internet worked with real id's | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 09:49 |
| MinceR | but competing with an isp/media conglomerate is? | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | some sort of system that makes it worth to create content | Jan 27 09:50 |
| iophk | Define content. | Jan 27 09:50 |
| gde33 | say you sit yourself down and write a book | Jan 27 09:51 |
| gde33 | now you are going to publish it on the internet | Jan 27 09:51 |
| iophk | So far the net is empty with no info at all out there. Not even one service or product yet. We've got all this connectivity and waiting with no results yet... | Jan 27 09:51 |
| gde33 | now you need multinationals because that is net neutrality | Jan 27 09:51 |
| gde33 | writing for the enemy | Jan 27 09:52 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 09:52 |
| iophk | Publish via a publisher. There are many to choose from. It can be a small publisher. | Jan 27 09:52 |
| gde33 | it wont work | Jan 27 09:52 |
| gde33 | it just doesnt work | Jan 27 09:52 |
| iophk | Nope. No e-books have happened yet. We're still waiting for them. | Jan 27 09:52 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's not like people are making money by selling books | Jan 27 09:52 |
| MinceR | right now | Jan 27 09:52 |
| gde33 | it doesnt work because the deal doesn't depend on the quality of the work | Jan 27 09:52 |
| MinceR | in the model you propose, it would depend a lot less on the quality of the work | Jan 27 09:53 |
| MinceR | it would depend only on which isp manages to get a monopoly where you live | Jan 27 09:53 |
| gde33 | not that I dont apperciate the crusade against the monopoly but we seem to have lost that war already | Jan 27 09:54 |
| MinceR | so let's give up and hand everything else to the winners, too? | Jan 27 09:54 |
| gde33 | if you want a stable system you have to accept a bit of bad works that go unpunished | Jan 27 09:55 |
| MinceR | that's not a "bit" | Jan 27 09:55 |
| gde33 | MinceR: not at all | Jan 27 09:55 |
| iophk | gde33: name one site that is not paid for already | Jan 27 09:55 |
| gde33 | just look at all perspectives, apperciate the view, then try find something better | Jan 27 09:56 |
| gde33 | I could most likely still make a popular website, but when I did I hated the attention. | Jan 27 09:56 |
| gde33 | you need thousands of people, then you still earn nothing. | Jan 27 09:56 |
| gde33 | you have to plaster the pages with advertisement to get tiny revenue :P | Jan 27 09:57 |
| iophk | Then you need a better business plan... | Jan 27 09:57 |
| gde33 | the web needs one | Jan 27 09:57 |
| gde33 | the content creator should be judged by his content, now how he plays the search engine lotto | Jan 27 09:58 |
| MinceR | your scheme would merely force users to pay whoever wins the search engine lottery | Jan 27 09:58 |
| gde33 | not the user | Jan 27 09:58 |
| MinceR | or whoever diverts the user's browser using whatever exploit works | Jan 27 09:59 |
| gde33 | the packages should be tailored just like television stations | Jan 27 09:59 |
| gde33 | just like you get a bunch of magazines | Jan 27 09:59 |
| gde33 | because the web is so big you can do huge numbers of them | Jan 27 10:00 |
| iophk | I see. The net is too open and the cable tv model is more appropriate, you say. | Jan 27 10:00 |
| gde33 | it has it's advantages | Jan 27 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | I think that DRM might be losing more sales for them than it's worth. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| iophk | I haven't seen any. Most I've seen myself and heard from others is that the cable tv model, with bundling, is a liability. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| iophk | DRM does cost sales. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | 105810 < gde33> the packages should be tailored just like television stations | Jan 27 10:01 |
| gde33 | we would get ourselves the FOSS package and read delicious FOSS blogs the whole month | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | so, you get a bunch of sites your isp happens to like | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | not the ones you want | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | that's a great business model, yeah | Jan 27 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Right. I remember asking Comcast repeatedly to carry LOGO. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| gde33 | whoever wants to make the selection | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | if you live in a fantasy where every isp likes your site that much | Jan 27 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | They finally did, over two years later. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| iophk | Research databases also have that model. High-impact journals are spread across several bundles so that the fees to get all of them are outrageous to impossible. | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | you still get the normal internet | Jan 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | yeah, if crippled is "normal" | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | we just get extra stuff behind a paywall | Jan 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | if you get that at all | Jan 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | which is not likely | Jan 27 10:02 |
| iophk | AOL and others have tried that walled-garden approach. | Jan 27 10:03 |
| gde33 | the moment you have the means to pay me I will create that content for you | Jan 27 10:03 |
| gde33 | I should be doing this for free? | Jan 27 10:03 |
| MinceR | the means exists now | Jan 27 10:03 |
| MinceR | what you've proposed will not help you. | Jan 27 10:03 |
| gde33 | interesting deal, how sell this to me? | Jan 27 10:03 |
| gde33 | I'm not motivated :P | Jan 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, porn and piracy are driving most of the demand for fast internet. | Jan 27 10:03 |
| MinceR | then don't do anything | Jan 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Good luck getting people to pay for what they will gladly take for free right now. | Jan 27 10:04 |
| gde33 | the FOSS subscription will give you access to a web entirely without people who didn't buy that subscription | Jan 27 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | They need to monetize the "piracy" somehow. | Jan 27 10:04 |
| gde33 | that is the added value | Jan 27 10:04 |
| gde33 | finally a whole web with nothing but apple users | Jan 27 10:04 |
| iophk | DaemonFC: bill has monetized piracy already. It's his means of maintaining monopoly rents, which is where nearly all of his money comes from. | Jan 27 10:04 |
| gde33 | you want to put any idiot on the page then give him a form to submit into my database | Jan 27 10:05 |
| gde33 | thats just.... hahahha | Jan 27 10:05 |
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| gde33 | it is just a thought of course | Jan 27 10:06 |
| gde33 | you will be shocked by how well everything works if you get rid of everyone who doesn't want to pay 50 cents to be part of it. | Jan 27 10:08 |
| iophk | Where is the example to show off for that model? | Jan 27 10:10 |
| iophk | The existing model makes trillions of dollars per year | Jan 27 10:10 |
| gde33 | a guy I know use to organise business meet ups where people could invest in stuff | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | it cost 10 guilders at first | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | it produced an audience of moaners | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | he increased the price over time, he is now at 2000 euro per ticket | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | at the beginning of the meeting he explains that this is way to much for 1 cup of coffee | Jan 27 10:12 |
| gde33 | and that he has no idea what to do with all the money | Jan 27 10:12 |
| gde33 | but it was just to get rid of everyone who didn't want to pay that just for the ticket | Jan 27 10:12 |
| gde33 | then everyone laughs | Jan 27 10:12 |
| gde33 | he tells the same story every year | Jan 27 10:12 |
| iophk | "there's one born every minute" | Jan 27 10:12 |
| gde33 | they actually get work done in this setting | Jan 27 10:13 |
| gde33 | with the cheaper tickets the non investors took all the time, they are just skeptical, it isnt strange or anything. | Jan 27 10:14 |
| gde33 | you would be sitting there with your 10 guilder ticket cheering at the stage " there is one born every minute" | Jan 27 10:14 |
| gde33 | hehehe | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Call for votes on default Linux init system for | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jessie http://t.co/c4EOboStUf | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidu9 | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie | Tux Machines | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Tiny Core is pleased to announce the | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | release of Core v5.2 http://t.co/KCyVQEIhoD | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidua | Jan 27 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Team Tiny Core is pleased to announce the release of Core v5.2 | Tux Machines | Jan 27 10:14 |
| gde33 | a whole web for religious people | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxSM8XVQ2DLI2R | Jan 27 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Everybody already knew that there "are no gays in Iran", unless the religious fundamentalists forgot to hang or shoot one. Now, we know that the same is true in Sochi (Russia). [ http://ur1.ca/gidvd ] | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | Several gay bars, but no gay people. Hmmm.... | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fundamentalist Christians in America admire this position of the Ayatollah Khamenei and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and seek to use their examples as a model for America. | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25909656 | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | From the article: | Jan 27 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Sochi mayor tells BBC: No gay people in our town [ http://ur1.ca/gidvh ] | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | "The mayor of Sochi, host of the Winter Olympics, has said there are no gay people in the city." | Jan 27 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov said there were several gay bars in Sochi." | Jan 27 10:17 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/why-the-copyright-industry-is-doomed-in-one-single-sentence-140126/ | Jan 27 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Why The Copyright Industry Is Doomed, In One Single Sentence | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gidwh ] | Jan 27 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | DaemonFC: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427747764089659392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427747932566482944 | Jan 27 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BBC headline makes it sound like #sochi mayor said opposite of what he actually said http://t.co/q6mCH9nGG3 sounds like #propaganda is #bbc | Jan 27 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Western nations: when we can't discredit a rival nation using women's rights, then we look hard for other angles and then twist words. | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | DaemonFC: dont fall into the trap of russophobia | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the US and UK want you to | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the NSA does too | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those terrorists | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427746932187209728 | Jan 27 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: February 11, 2014: The Day We Fight Back Against the NSA http://t.co/zTalwnqExa activism before love? | Jan 27 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | Several gay bars. | Jan 27 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | February 11, 2014: The Day We Fight Back Against the NSA - FOSS Force | Jan 27 10:22 |
| iophk | espcially the NSA | Jan 27 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | No gay people. | Jan 27 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | How does that work? | Jan 27 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | Who is making this endeavor profitable? | Jan 27 10:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the BBC made it sound like he denies them access | Jan 27 10:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but the body of the article says the opposite | Jan 27 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | "leave the children alone" is pretty damned offensive | Jan 27 10:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Orwell/Blair uses to work for the BBC, writing propaganda for them | Jan 27 10:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They need to make it look objective while it's not | Jan 27 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | How would you feel if all straight people were labeled child molesters and told that they could be thrown in prison for even talking to someone under 18? | Jan 27 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | Of course this is ridiculous. | Jan 27 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | If it was just Putin, it wouldn't be Russian law. | Jan 27 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that they have a legislature there. :) | Jan 27 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1743637_856753227687465_741847872_n.jpg | Jan 27 10:30 |
| iophk | "On February 11th, participating U.S. websites will display banners urging their visitors to call or email their Congressperson or Senator" | Jan 27 10:30 |
| iophk | How does that work for sites outside the US? They are affected as well and could participate in the 11 feb protest. | Jan 27 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1535738_10201464001784831_123840603_n.jpg | Jan 27 10:32 |
| iophk | https://thedaywefightback.org/ | Jan 27 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thedaywefightback.org | The Day We Fight Back - February 11th 2014 | Jan 27 10:39 |
| iophk | kind of devoid of content | Jan 27 10:40 |
| MinceR | gde33: oh, i didn't realize that your business plan began with buying an ISP :> | Jan 27 10:41 |
| gde33 | I dont have any plan, the game seemed rigged | Jan 27 10:44 |
| gde33 | I have my own way of looking at the humanity, the more it diverts from the norm the more illogical my plans sound. | Jan 27 10:45 |
| gde33 | in my view orwell was an optimist | Jan 27 10:47 |
| gde33 | in his system at least one gets to be abused by other people | Jan 27 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.activistpost.com/2014/01/bank-run-fears-customers-being-forced.html | Jan 27 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash [ http://ur1.ca/gie4s ] | Jan 27 10:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Richard Stallman on How He Started GNU | Jan 27 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kxajfkYdEj | Jan 27 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Richard Stallman on How He Started GNU | Tux Machines | Jan 27 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gie5x | Jan 27 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/pope-doves-attacked-by-crow-seagull-st-peters-square | Jan 27 11:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Pope's peace doves attacked by crow and seagull | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gie76 ] | Jan 27 11:03 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/4NPtxDk.gif | Jan 27 11:21 |
| Sosumi | http://www.vulnerability-lab.com/get_content.php?id=1182 | Jan 27 11:26 |
| Sosumi | "Mozilla Thunderbird - WireTap Remote 0Day Vulnerability" | Jan 27 11:26 |
| Sosumi | also, there are no gays in saudi arabia, quatar, oman and UAE | Jan 27 11:31 |
| Sosumi | unless the medieval wahabi there forgot to shoot or behead them | Jan 27 11:32 |
| Sosumi | did I forget Bahrain? | Jan 27 11:33 |
| Sosumi | silly me | Jan 27 11:33 |
| Sosumi | and aren't those countries, specially saudi arabia, alongside with the US, UK, France and Israel the ones bankrolling jihadis into syria? | Jan 27 11:41 |
| Sosumi | yeah those guys that impose sharia law, that eat man's hearts aka canibalism, fornicate with corpses and so on? | Jan 27 11:42 |
| Sosumi | compared to those guys | Jan 27 11:42 |
| Sosumi | putin and khameni are actually kewl guys to hang with | Jan 27 11:43 |
| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/27/iphone-share-strong-android-lead/ | Jan 27 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Holds Strong as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gieik ] | Jan 27 11:47 |
| Sosumi | yes, holding strong while losing marketshare on all fronts to android and to lesses extent, pocket pc | Jan 27 11:48 |
| Sosumi | *windows phone | Jan 27 11:48 |
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| iophk | http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/top-news/police-3-dead-in-mall-shooting-devices-disabled/nc3M6/ | Jan 27 12:10 |
| iophk | "Police began tracking Aguilar's phone and soon discovered it was at the mall." | Jan 27 12:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ajc.com | Md. mall gunman was avid skater, no criminal past | www.ajc.com [ http://ur1.ca/giend ] | Jan 27 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux | Jan 27 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs http://t.co/tmXKq4g6cf | Jan 27 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giepa | Jan 27 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs | Tux Machines | Jan 27 12:17 |
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| iophk | http://opensource.com/education/14/1/interview-catherine-dumas-suny-albany | Jan 27 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Catherine Dumas of SUNY Albany | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/gifqi ] | Jan 27 15:14 |
| iophk | http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/27/apples-iphone-marketshare-dips-in-q4-samsung-falters-under-pressure-from-low-cost-oems | Jan 27 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | appleinsider.com | Apple's iPhone marketshare dips in Q4, Samsung falters under pressure from low-cost OEMs [ http://ur1.ca/gifzp ] | Jan 27 15:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427830328196349952 | Jan 27 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs http://t.co/jlmQfuLwPv #gnu #linux | Jan 27 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs | Jan 27 15:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:20] <iophk> Was it more advertising money from M$ which motivated them to pull the plug? | Jan 27 15:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Unlikely, I doubt it, but it's not impossible | Jan 27 15:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 20:34] <iophk> http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-why-it-s-the-third-gaming-platform-1214797 | Jan 27 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:34] <iophk> PS4 ? | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:36] <MinceR> the article claims that's linux-based | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Moving forward a generation to the brand new PS4, and Linux still binds the heart of the now X86 based powerhouse. Sony confirmed back in November that the angular beast uses a modified version of FreeBSD 9 Kernel to power its own Orbis OS." | Jan 27 15:59 |
| MinceR | the author doesn't seem to realize the difference between Linux and the FreeBSD kernel | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It's TechRadar, Britain's embarrassment and tech tabloid | Jan 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it does lots of headline baits | Jan 27 16:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Along the lines of "linux is dead" | Jan 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think it's somewhat connected to Linux Format, but I was never sure how exactly | Jan 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I remember this site negatively | Jan 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [08:18] <DaemonFC> Matt Asay writes an anti-Linux hit piece. | Jan 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So what's the news | Jan 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427833871552770048 | Jan 27 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Satan made them do it!" http://t.co/yKQ0A7Y6n7 | Jan 27 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gawker.com | Evil Triumphs: Satanic Birds Attack Pope's Peace Doves | Jan 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1521936_10153756588540486_1597010073_n.jpg | Jan 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Meh | Jan 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:31] <iophk> I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. :-) | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Content creators | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:30] <gde33> I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:30] <gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Poor content creator... who would farm for food? | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If anything, the copyright cartel/monoopoly NEEDS neutrality | Jan 27 16:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | to make it affordable to stream | Jan 27 16:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | people pay the bill for traddic | Jan 27 16:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the problem is, the cartel sometimes owns the cable companies too, or vice versa | Jan 27 16:06 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427835339357839360 | Jan 27 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: I eagerly wait for #bitcoin to become widely accepted, but judging by experience, monopoly/big banks will co-opt it http://t.co/fTQE8CSyJK | Jan 27 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | The Bitcoin Pizza Purchase That's Worth $7 Million Today - Forbes | Jan 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427836294866436096 | Jan 27 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash http://t.co/b2sENlPAFK sounds like #natwest | Jan 27 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash | Jan 27 16:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This headline is funny | Jan 27 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Then again, it's an Apple boosting site | Jan 27 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Classified under "religion" | Jan 27 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [11:47] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Holds Strong as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gieik ] | Jan 27 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Dips Slightly as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors | Jan 27 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Losing but strong LOL | Jan 27 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427837900328542208 | Jan 27 16:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Police began tracking Aguilar's phone and soon discovered it was at the mall." http://t.co/Ur2AzPCKc4 #trackingdevice | Jan 27 16:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ajc.com | Md. mall gunman was avid skater, no criminal past | www.ajc.com | Jan 27 16:20 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427838405205319680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427839318418538496 | Jan 27 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #apple is having a #microsoft moment http://t.co/fEpNYuZuDn | Jan 27 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> appleinsider.com | Apple's iPhone marketshare dips in Q4, Samsung falters under pressure from low-cost OEMs | Jan 27 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open source events grow at the #university http://t.co/paYeapLGSW | Jan 27 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Interview with Catherine Dumas of SUNY Albany | opensource.com | Jan 27 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source events grow at the university | Jan 27 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jF2DdLGyqc | Jan 27 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gig7h | Jan 27 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open source events grow at the university | Tux Machines | Jan 27 16:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427848027995639810 | Jan 27 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Write like a champ with #latex aided by these tools http://t.co/M8LLdewj2O | Jan 27 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxlinks.com | Essential LaTeX Tools - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Jan 27 17:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427849287763234816 | Jan 27 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: LinuxScreenshots dot org has just been put on sale. People who like to try and take screenshots of distro might want to secure the tradition | Jan 27 17:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427849519460806656 | Jan 27 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #KMail Complexity - and a little Patience http://t.co/AKtXsPXq7R #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 27 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lxer.com | LXer: KMail Complexity - and a little Patience | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_bed2: I got one of those call about an hour and a half ago | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | your Windows computer is gting messages | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | we are rining you up about htat | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | please do this so we can help you with your omputer | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | I had some fun with the guy on the phone :d | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | for a few minutes | Jan 27 17:08 |
| iophk | how long were you able to keep them on the line? | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: oh a long time | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: probably longer if I Wanted | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | I did the call for like sixx minutes | Jan 27 17:09 |
| iophk | Did they figure out you run Gnu/LInux? | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: I even did the like yeah right stuff and started calling him a con man and everything | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | and saying how they trick people into acccess ot the coputer like that to steal passwords etc is illegal | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | and so on | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: he's like your Wndows Pc. I was ike what country you form, he's like Lodon | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | London Microsoft support | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | I was like uh yeah right and Ia m APple support, and he's just carrying on, trying to get me to run some code thing or whatever, wanting to check the computer id code and yeah | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | then eventaully I am like actsally I run something called Linux, do you n know what that is? | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: eventually he hanged up on me or hwatever | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | I was even like your a con man if I put in.... I Probably won't beable to ring you back since your number will be hidden | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: thing is there is a number I can call back | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | should I? to see what happens | Jan 27 17:11 |
| iophk | Is it very, very expensive to call that number? | Jan 27 17:11 |
| iophk | It could be. | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: well yeah might get charged to call that number | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | it did sayon the phone thing | Jan 27 17:12 |
| iophk | 20₤ / minute? | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | not sure if we have such numbers | Jan 27 17:12 |
| iophk | Best not to try then. | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | that are realy really expensive to calll | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah your right | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | it could be some charged number if calling it | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | where they get cash | Jan 27 17:13 |
| iophk | If it were a toll-free number it might be ok. | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | it's some sort number | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: once there's another call it's gone | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | unless I save the number | Jan 27 17:13 |
| iophk | short stack | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | as in write it down some where | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: short stack ?? | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427851402300649472 | Jan 27 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u rebuttal from Bradley Kuhn. #gnu #sflc #fsf #conservancy | Jan 27 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ebb.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jan 27 17:13 |
| iophk | htt://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_(abstract_data_type) | Jan 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | sebsebseb: I know one guy who has a friend who fell for this scam | Jan 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think I got such a call a month ago | Jan 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I can't recsall mcuh | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I had one last year or whatever | Jan 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I really hung up quickly | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the one today oh that was a good laugh | Jan 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | glad you likes it | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_bed2: i had good fun for a few minutes | Jan 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and they foot the bill for the call | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | I think he thought I Would do the thing | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | for ags | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | ages | Jan 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | well done, but there are better ways to avenge | Jan 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | brb | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | to avenge? | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | wel about having fun | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | and I know what they are doing | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: you play a long and then make it clear later that your not all stupid | Jan 27 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | that's what I did :d | Jan 27 17:16 |
| iophk | Some try to keep them on the line longer. | Jan 27 17:17 |
| sebsebseb | yeah he | Jan 27 17:17 |
| iophk | It keeps them from bothering others and have some fun. | Jan 27 17:17 |
| sebsebseb | oh he would have styaed on the line with me I don't know long really | Jan 27 17:17 |
| sebsebseb | if I hadn't said ceratin stuff | Jan 27 17:17 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: and he didn't pick up some of my like oh yeah stuff etc, and what that really emant | Jan 27 17:17 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I guess since he was from India or whatever | Jan 27 17:18 |
| sebsebseb | ok well number gone then, unless same thing | Jan 27 17:18 |
| sebsebseb | got another call just now, but no response | Jan 27 17:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427852387647512576 | Jan 27 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: An #OpenLetter from US Researchers in #Cryptography and Information Security http://t.co/tFGvQKL2UO #nsa harms everyone except oligarchs | Jan 27 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> masssurveillance.info | An Open Letter from US Researchers in Cryptography and Information Security | Jan 27 17:19 |
| iophk | actually queue (FIFO) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queue_%28abstract_data_type%29 | Jan 27 17:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Queue (abstract data type) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gigk0 ] | Jan 27 17:21 |
| iophk | I thought most digital phones hold way more than one number. | Jan 27 17:21 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: I don't know it's the network number I ring | Jan 27 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | maybe this phone can hold more than one though | Jan 27 17:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854233057394688 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854348237156352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854783752712193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855080264462336 | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Android ends 2013 on a high note http://t.co/vdjo2QPDQ9 #android #linux | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.cnet.com | Android ends 2013 on a high note | Mobile - CNET News | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project http://t.co/ypoZcJn6V7 #lux #camera is back | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.open-electronics.org | Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Open Electronics | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux http://t.co/huhc9Gc7k6 #intel #linux | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hands-on with Knoppix Linux 7.2.0: A well-established and very stable Linux distribution http://t.co/43BvxkBXZk #knoppix #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Hands-on with Knoppix Linux 7.2.0: A well-established and very stable Linux distribution | ZDNet | Jan 27 17:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855427943284736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855817355038720 | Jan 27 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: U.S. DOJ Files Charges Against Alleged Android App Counterfeiters http://t.co/0qx8OsgGxQ #android #linux | Jan 27 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found ) | Jan 27 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: What's the best thing about being an open source community manager? http://t.co/SkbfTvB8HA #opensource #community | Jan 27 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Advice and wisdom from 14 community managers on CM Appreciation Day | opensource.com | Jan 27 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux http://t.co/3bVs8nzsnD | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigys | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jNI1EaJOn7 | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigyx | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android ends 2013 on a high note | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0tKzoGoZ2C | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigyz | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Android ends 2013 on a high note | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cgcdRO1YkY | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigz2 | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What's the best thing about being an open | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source community manager? | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KTGM8sUuZQ | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigz3 | Jan 27 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | What's the best thing about being an open source community manager? | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:04 |
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| iophk | sebsebseb: fossdem! | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: shuld be meeting two guys from Estonia on Thursday evening to | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | for dnner | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | with the guy from USA | Jan 27 18:43 |
| iophk | cool | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: SystemD have some kind of hackfest | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | on Thursday andFriday to | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that's probably not really for me | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: now I Just need to sort out getting picked up form the air port | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah | Jan 27 18:44 |
| iophk | train or bus? | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: guy from project can't do it, so hpefuly the hotel can pick up like before | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | there may be a train that goes nearish to the hotel | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | I'd rather just be picked up like before | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: hotel has the air port pick up optoin on the form that didn't work, and I Had to contact them again about pick up | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | phone was enaged just now | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: they are a bit bad at relying to email to | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | so just doing things over phone instead this time compelty it seems | Jan 27 18:45 |
| iophk | Are the presentations going to be streamed ? | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | some of them will be sure | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | and then videos up after the event like before | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: so anything in the ain room will probably get stramed and videod | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | when I looked nothing I wanted to go to there as such so that's ok | Jan 27 18:46 |
| iophk | How long do you think it will take for them to post the videos this time? | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: there's so much going on at once | Jan 27 18:46 |
| iophk | Yes, many things at the same time. | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | a week or so after and the first lot of vidoesp robably go up, past ones already on there of course | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep always going to miss omething | Jan 27 18:46 |
| iophk | It makes it hard to choose and then harder to discuss since others saw something different. | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | could get sucked into stands and then miss whatever, or ould go to osme talk and miss hwatever | Jan 27 18:46 |
| iophk | IIRC Bradley Kuhn had an interesting talk planned. | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | ,but talk wise it seems I am only really interested in the legal issues devv room and maybe Mozilla | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | and cross distor when Deb talks there maybe | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep Bradly KUHN AND Karan Sandler and such will be speaking in legal issues | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | yeah really most of the tlaks I am going to be interested in are from Americans :D | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: already met Bradly sort of | Jan 27 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: as in I saw him on thep anel and yeah | Jan 27 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | last year | Jan 27 18:48 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427872837693894656 | Jan 27 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Emacs and #GNU - the lesser-known relationship (one used to create the other, both ways) http://t.co/J0qDq57zeN | Jan 27 18:49 |
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| gde33 | [17:02:48] <schestowitz_bed2> Meh | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:03:33] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:31] <iophk> I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. :-) | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:03:38] <schestowitz_bed2> Content creators | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:03:45] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:30] <gde33> I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:03:46] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:30] <gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:03:53] <schestowitz_bed2> Poor content creator... who would farm for food? | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:04:45] <schestowitz_bed2> If anything, the copyright cartel/monoopoly NEEDS neutrality | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:04:52] <schestowitz_bed2> to make it affordable to stream | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:04:58] <schestowitz_bed2> people pay the bill for traddic | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | [17:05:10] <schestowitz_bed2> the problem is, the cartel sometimes owns the cable companies too, or vice versa | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | you think you can force out the art | Jan 27 19:16 |
| iophk | How much did VanGogh get paid? | Jan 27 19:17 |
| gde33 | NOTHING | Jan 27 19:17 |
| gde33 | that was good right? | Jan 27 19:17 |
| iophk | Not much of a business model then... | Jan 27 19:17 |
| gde33 | that is your ideal model? | Jan 27 19:17 |
| gde33 | I only hear selling content is a terrible idea, one should get into the bitcoin ponzi in stead | Jan 27 19:18 |
| gde33 | very homogenious standards | Jan 27 19:18 |
| gde33 | I wish this channel cost 100 euro per month | Jan 27 19:19 |
| iophk | pay Roy then. | Jan 27 19:20 |
| gde33 | it would add some urgency to the debate, I would be helped by that | Jan 27 19:20 |
| gde33 | I've tried constructive discussion with people on the web for many years, if I look at the results I have to say far I've been wasting my time and effort. | Jan 27 19:21 |
| iophk | This afternoon you were hinting at a tax on net traffic to subsidize something or other. | Jan 27 19:22 |
| gde33 | yeah, then you asked for evidence, then I explained how it keeps out uninterested people, l gave an example, then you argued a sucker is born every minute as to prove the topic was unintersting? something like that? | Jan 27 19:23 |
| iophk | paying for the sake of paying? | Jan 27 19:23 |
| gde33 | exactly | Jan 27 19:23 |
| iophk | No return for that payment is for suckers. | Jan 27 19:24 |
| gde33 | no no, the payment is to keep out that opinion | Jan 27 19:24 |
| gde33 | to make sure you are not there to elaborate on your skepticism | Jan 27 19:24 |
| gde33 | not that it isn't valid | Jan 27 19:24 |
| iophk | Start an alternate internet for people with more dollars than sense | Jan 27 19:25 |
| gde33 | that is what i'm wondering about basically, how that would look | Jan 27 19:25 |
| iophk | There's a lot of dark fiber out there. | Jan 27 19:25 |
| gde33 | we can only guess I think? | Jan 27 19:25 |
| iophk | Not if you have a business plan and enough money to back it up. | Jan 27 19:25 |
| gde33 | you also need to be motivated to go do something like that | Jan 27 19:26 |
| gde33 | in what way do I benefit from paying for googles bandwith? | Jan 27 19:27 |
| gde33 | Makes it sound as if the price they charge has something to do with the cost of what they are selling | Jan 27 19:27 |
| gde33 | it doesnt | Jan 27 19:27 |
| gde33 | they are just looking to max out proffit | Jan 27 19:27 |
| iophk | Google is paying for Google's bandwidth currently. | Jan 27 19:28 |
| iophk | They pay big money for that. | Jan 27 19:28 |
| gde33 | true | Jan 27 19:28 |
| gde33 | it is that atractive to own the infrastucture your business runs on | Jan 27 19:28 |
| gde33 | I do completely agree with the ideology of customer own infrasturcture | Jan 27 19:28 |
| gde33 | with most people it is just pearls for pigs | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | You have to continue with common carriage or it just will choke. | Jan 27 19:29 |
| gde33 | sorry not sure what you are trying to explain here | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | The Internet is a network of networks. If they don't allow the traffic of others, then nothing functions except for a crappy little zone. That's what has already been tried and already failed. | Jan 27 19:30 |
| gde33 | that a non neutral internet would drown out the free things? | Jan 27 19:30 |
| iophk | And the paid things | Jan 27 19:30 |
| iophk | espeially the paid things | Jan 27 19:30 |
| gde33 | depends how you structure the payments | Jan 27 19:31 |
| iophk | besides there aren't any free things on the net | Jan 27 19:31 |
| iophk | they are all paid for | Jan 27 19:31 |
| iophk | alreaady | Jan 27 19:31 |
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| gde33 | let me put it like this: In what way do I benefit from net neturality as a content creator? | Jan 27 19:32 |
| MinceR | you get to compete at all | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | users can access your content without having their connection to it crippled | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | you get a chance | Jan 27 19:33 |
| gde33 | oh but they do, I can only afford very minimalistic hosting | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | without net neutrality, you don't even get a chance | Jan 27 19:33 |
| gde33 | how would that work? | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | how would what work? | Jan 27 19:34 |
| gde33 | not getting a chance | Jan 27 19:34 |
| MinceR | let's say you host some videos on your site | Jan 27 19:34 |
| MinceR | the user's isp has a deal with google, so they offer youtube; and they offer their own site | Jan 27 19:34 |
| gde33 | cant afford the bandwith but ok, lets assume I could | Jan 27 19:34 |
| MinceR | you don't have a deal with them because you're a competitor and you're small fry | Jan 27 19:34 |
| gde33 | yes | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | if they're feeling gracious the user isn't entirely banned from your site | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | they just don't get to stream the video at all | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | it's like they're using a 9600 bps modem to access the site | Jan 27 19:35 |
| gde33 | the user paid for internet, he can have access to anything he wants | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | yes, if they have net neutrality | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | if they don't, then the user can have access to anything the ISP wants him to | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | however the ISP wants him to | Jan 27 19:35 |
| iophk | at whatever lowered speeds the ISP wants him to... | Jan 27 19:36 |
| gde33 | start your own isp? | Jan 27 19:36 |
| iophk | not enough because the other ISPs you connect to can stil choke you | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | where will you get the finds for that? | Jan 27 19:36 |
| gde33 | I think we will have exactly the same thing only in a different format | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | and where will you provide service? | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | s/find/fund/ | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | no, we don't even have nearly the same thing | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | of course, things get even worse if you used some p2p protocol to help with hosting | Jan 27 19:37 |
| gde33 | you are saying that net neutrality will give the ISP the right to block websites? | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | normally, that does work (GNU/Linux iso distribution via BitTorrent, for example) | Jan 27 19:37 |
| gde33 | is that really the same topic? | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | yes, among other things | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | part of what a common carrier is about is that they aren't allowed to decide what to block and what to allow through | Jan 27 19:38 |
| MinceR | but if you don't have net neutrality, the ISPs will just block p2p protocols entirely | Jan 27 19:38 |
| gde33 | so the blocked content is just not available | Jan 27 19:38 |
| gde33 | you dont get access to all the books for example | Jan 27 19:38 |
| MinceR | it can be blocked entirely | Jan 27 19:38 |
| gde33 | you didn't pay for that > no access | Jan 27 19:39 |
| MinceR | or it can be allowed but slowed down arbitrarily | Jan 27 19:39 |
| gde33 | Are we not creating a giant straw man for the ISP? Is there really no way to do this fairly? | Jan 27 19:39 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 27 19:39 |
| MinceR | the way to do this fairly is called net neutrality | Jan 27 19:40 |
| gde33 | as in no blocking of content, just additional packages? | Jan 27 19:40 |
| MinceR | anything else is by definition unfair | Jan 27 19:40 |
| MinceR | they won't phrase it as "blocking of content" | Jan 27 19:40 |
| MinceR | for a normal internet user, all of the internet is the default | Jan 27 19:40 |
| MinceR | for a non-neutral greedy ISP, nothing is the default, everything is "additional" | Jan 27 19:41 |
| gde33 | I will explain it again, this time I will just convince you: The thing is, proof of work equals value. | Jan 27 19:41 |
| gde33 | you can create cryptographic hashees and sell those in stead of selling content | Jan 27 19:42 |
| iophk | bitcoin | Jan 27 19:42 |
| gde33 | but it will always be a pretend game | Jan 27 19:42 |
| gde33 | pretend value | Jan 27 19:42 |
| gde33 | so you are just pretending everything is free / worthless | Jan 27 19:42 |
| iophk | you're missing the point that it's all paid for already | Jan 27 19:43 |
| iophk | no need to pay twice | Jan 27 19:43 |
| gde33 | not enough | Jan 27 19:43 |
| iophk | pay Roy then | Jan 27 19:43 |
| gde33 | my point was payments for the sake of payments remember? | Jan 27 19:43 |
| iophk | and a solution was offered. Fund your alternative to the Internet. | Jan 27 19:44 |
| gde33 | if existing plots are all that terrible at granting things their value, what else can we think of? | Jan 27 19:44 |
| gde33 | but wasnt that what netneutrality aimed to prevent? | Jan 27 19:45 |
| gde33 | everyone will be against me just for trying to attribute value lol | Jan 27 19:45 |
| iophk | Value to what? | Jan 27 19:45 |
| gde33 | to everything | Jan 27 19:46 |
| iophk | Use Flattr then | Jan 27 19:46 |
| gde33 | that will only work for 0% of my traffic | Jan 27 19:47 |
| iophk | Maybe it is already being compensated in proportion to its perceived value... | Jan 27 19:47 |
| gde33 | not an acceptable hypothesis | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | you can go project that on your own creations | Jan 27 19:48 |
| iophk | the data seems to support it | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | not at all actually | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | I just hatted the attention | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | I dont like having attention from more people than I can answer to | Jan 27 19:49 |
| iophk | How did your test of Flattr go? What was wrong? | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | I'm looking at it right now for the first time | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | http://funding.openinitiative.com/ | Jan 27 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | funding.openinitiative.com | Financez votre logiciel - Open Funding | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | is also fun | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | but I'm not seeing the revolution | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | the hard worked content items are not worth anywhere as much as the cryptographic hash | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | this while you can just easly create a hash | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | much easier than producing a valuable work | Jan 27 19:51 |
| gde33 | I can also do a ponzi scheme with site credits | Jan 27 19:51 |
| iophk | There is also crowdsourcing. | Jan 27 19:51 |
| gde33 | that seems to work | Jan 27 19:51 |
| iophk | But then deliverables are required. | Jan 27 19:51 |
| gde33 | facinating development | Jan 27 19:51 |
| gde33 | I dont even know howmany kickstarter victims there are | Jan 27 19:52 |
| gde33 | there is at least one who lost his shipment | Jan 27 19:52 |
| gde33 | in most of the cases it seems to work nicely | Jan 27 19:52 |
| gde33 | still it seems more a measure of peoples kindness than of the collective vision for the future? | Jan 27 19:53 |
| gde33 | bit of personal greed lol | Jan 27 19:53 |
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| MinceR | 204019 < gde33> I will explain it again, this time I will just convince you: The thing is, proof of work equals value. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| MinceR | it doesn't. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| MinceR | value is what the market values. work may well be wasted. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| MinceR | as for network access, it's currently paid for by the users already | Jan 27 20:07 |
| MinceR | there's no need to pretend that it's provided gratis. | Jan 27 20:07 |
| gde33 | proof of work | Jan 27 20:08 |
| MinceR | same thing. | Jan 27 20:08 |
| iophk | effort != value | Jan 27 20:08 |
| MinceR | (but it's a very communist thing to insist that any busywork is valuable and that everyone must be robbed to compensate the communist for worthless work) | Jan 27 20:08 |
| gde33 | you need to feel useful to | Jan 27 20:09 |
| gde33 | in that way there is value, one can even play football | Jan 27 20:09 |
| MinceR | football had better be useful by itself, then | Jan 27 20:11 |
| gde33 | who made you the decider? | Jan 27 20:11 |
| MinceR | of what? | Jan 27 20:11 |
| gde33 | that came out wrong lol | Jan 27 20:12 |
| gde33 | who decided what has value and what not? | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | the market did | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | the people who had money they could and were willing to spend on goods. | Jan 27 20:12 |
| gde33 | but on the perceved value not what things cost to make | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | with the loss of net neutrality, the market would lose control | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | and it would be placed in the hand of the corporate oligarchs. | Jan 27 20:13 |
| MinceR | whoever owns your internet connection would decide whose news you read. | Jan 27 20:13 |
| gde33 | why wouldnt that happen anyway? | Jan 27 20:13 |
| MinceR | it certainly looks like it's happening | Jan 27 20:14 |
| gde33 | I can make a blog right now, write blog posts, but no one is going to read them | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | even the w3c has turned against its old idea of an open web | Jan 27 20:14 |
| gde33 | people cant even find them without the oligarchs | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | yes they can | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | for example, i could ask you the address right now, if i wanted to know | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | and i could read it all without my ISP's express permission. | Jan 27 20:15 |
| gde33 | then if todays posting is not precicely what you are looking for you never look at it again | Jan 27 20:15 |
| gde33 | easy come easy go | Jan 27 20:15 |
| MinceR | and you would deprive me of that choice? | Jan 27 20:15 |
| MinceR | do you think your blog is so important that people should be forced to read it? | Jan 27 20:16 |
| gde33 | I would deprive you from such harsh judgement | Jan 27 20:16 |
| gde33 | The blog could be so important everyone should read it. | Jan 27 20:16 |
| gde33 | the chance is there | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | to become a good writer you have to write the whole time | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | it might be crap some days | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | you shouldnt be put on trial over each blog post | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | overal performance | Jan 27 20:18 |
| MinceR | and you won't be | Jan 27 20:18 |
| MinceR | if what you do is valued, the word will spread | Jan 27 20:18 |
| MinceR | and there are search engines too, including at least one p2p one | Jan 27 20:18 |
| gde33 | nah the word wont spread, you have to work your ass off | Jan 27 20:19 |
| gde33 | asking random strangers for a few bucks would go much faster | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | yes, you have to work your ass off | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | and if you do it right, the word will spread | Jan 27 20:20 |
| gde33 | then what? big bandwith bills? | Jan 27 20:20 |
| iophk | Or issue an IPO | Jan 27 20:20 |
| gde33 | have LIES advertised all over the website? | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | you can choose your advertisers | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | they don't have to be lies | Jan 27 20:21 |
| MinceR | (i know, the truth isn't very popular nowadays) | Jan 27 20:21 |
| gde33 | something other than google? | Jan 27 20:21 |
| gde33 | hah yes | Jan 27 20:21 |
| MinceR | possibly | Jan 27 20:21 |
| gde33 | that wont work as well | Jan 27 20:22 |
| gde33 | you need 10 times as much traffic | Jan 27 20:22 |
| gde33 | if not 100 | Jan 27 20:22 |
| gde33 | you have to go full retard, "become a militard, join the fight in iraq today" | Jan 27 20:23 |
| gde33 | then you make money | Jan 27 20:23 |
| MinceR | you'll need a business model | Jan 27 20:23 |
| MinceR | hopefully a better one than "herp derp let's gang up on the users and rob them blind" | Jan 27 20:23 |
| gde33 | not my kind of plan | Jan 27 20:23 |
| MinceR | your earlier comments suggest otherwise. | Jan 27 20:24 |
| gde33 | usually my plans are to complex to even consider, I do have some admiration for the simplistic there | Jan 27 20:24 |
| gde33 | if it has you explain why people need something you dont have to bother with the idea | Jan 27 20:25 |
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| gde33 | If people can be robbed they must have had something. | Jan 27 20:27 |
| gde33 | most people in this world dont have anything. | Jan 27 20:27 |
| MinceR | most people in this world don't have access to the internet | Jan 27 20:28 |
| MinceR | most people in this would would not be able to read your blog even if they wanted to. | Jan 27 20:28 |
| MinceR | s/would/world/ | Jan 27 20:28 |
| gde33 | I tried to do it in print one time with a few people, it was surpricingly expensive to do small editions | Jan 27 20:29 |
| gde33 | why would someone with 1 hour of internet per week not be able to write a valuable text? | Jan 27 20:30 |
| gde33 | why do we have all this audience building he has to get into? | Jan 27 20:30 |
| MinceR | because quite a lot of people want to be heard | Jan 27 20:31 |
| gde33 | that doesnt make people less valuable | Jan 27 20:31 |
| MinceR | and listeners have limited time | Jan 27 20:31 |
| MinceR | are you sure of that? :> | Jan 27 20:31 |
| gde33 | oh yes, I believe most of the problelms we can produce are based on not valuing people. | Jan 27 20:32 |
| gde33 | then moan when others dont value you either | Jan 27 20:32 |
| MinceR | if you do not value people, is that just another way of saying that people have zero value? :> | Jan 27 20:32 |
| gde33 | when you abuse people you get to be abused basically | Jan 27 20:32 |
| MinceR | i'd be fine with just not bothering each other | Jan 27 20:33 |
| MinceR | but for most people that's a concept too advanced | Jan 27 20:33 |
| gde33 | MinceR: just that you value them less I suppose | Jan 27 20:33 |
| gde33 | I believe in bothering people a little bit | Jan 27 20:33 |
| gde33 | a friend of mine plays computer games all day, I call him an enabler. lol | Jan 27 20:34 |
| gde33 | just to bother him | Jan 27 20:34 |
| gde33 | I think people automatically live up to the expectation when you assert their value | Jan 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | they usually don't | Jan 27 20:35 |
| gde33 | have to do it the whole life | Jan 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | i learned that the hard way | Jan 27 20:35 |
| gde33 | sure, but we should die trying to convince them :) | Jan 27 20:36 |
| MinceR | no thanks | Jan 27 20:36 |
| gde33 | that is one of your valuable qualities | Jan 27 20:37 |
| MinceR | don't worry, chances are i'll die eventually | Jan 27 20:37 |
| gde33 | your legacy will live on :D | Jan 27 20:37 |
| gde33 | people wont remember it was you when they repeat your words | Jan 27 20:37 |
| MinceR | or it won't | Jan 27 20:37 |
| gde33 | everything we know was made up by some one | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | each letter, each word, some of the sentences | Jan 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | maybe humanity will wipe out itself along with all its records | Jan 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | and there's nobody out there who could catch and decode our EM emissions | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | of course it will | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | the big question is if we will escape the solar system before that happens | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | if we will live as short as 1 sun | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | heh | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | or shorter | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | !!! | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | but we could very well potentially infest the whole gallaxy | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | and beyond | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | we have technology that could wipe out higher-order life on this planet in the hands of religious extremists who believe that if everyone does, that's acceptable | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | grow green fur on all those balls | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | and maybe that's the best outcome | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | s/one does/one dies/ | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | we get to play our part | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | maybe we are the ones without sins? | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 20:40 |
| MinceR | that depends on how you define 'sin' | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | I define it as who should throw the first stone | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | certain religious zealots who believe themselves to be experts on ethics believe that you're responsible for the sins of your ancestors | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | which shows how much they really know about ethics | Jan 27 20:41 |
| gde33 | at least we get to suffer their sins | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | yay | Jan 27 20:41 |
| gde33 | but also enjoy their accomplishments | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | i was kinda hoping for more than just suffering | Jan 27 20:41 |
| gde33 | I had a dream a few days ago where I finally calculated why religion is nothing but an ego trip | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | the idea one would be punished in the after life for what one does | Jan 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | it's worse than an ego trip | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | when I do something I dont care about that | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | I do things because they need doing, burning forever might just be worth it | Jan 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | it's a mental infection that poisons everything | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | we should have put George's head on a pike way back in 2001, then suffer the eternal punishment. | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | it would be totally worth it | Jan 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | dubya? | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | yeah | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | burn him at the stake | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | god can complant all he likes? | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | he is going to punish me? | Jan 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | "God" does not exist. | Jan 27 20:44 |
| gde33 | that is suppose to stop me from doing the right thing? | Jan 27 20:44 |
| MinceR | its definition is inconsistent with itself, therefore false | Jan 27 20:44 |
| gde33 | exactly | Jan 27 20:44 |
| gde33 | but my argument is that it is all rooted on egoistic behavior | Jan 27 20:44 |
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| gde33 | I use to have some sympathy for the mood they create while doing things | Jan 27 20:45 |
| gde33 | the collective feeling of trying to do the right thing | Jan 27 20:45 |
| MinceR | and then you realized that they undermine the ability to reason? :> | Jan 27 20:45 |
| MinceR | also any possibility of tolerance | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | that isn't an argument you can use to convince that person | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | if you can show him he is all doing this for himself | Jan 27 20:46 |
| MinceR | there is no argument you can use to convince a religious zealot. | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | then that changes the whole story | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | I think there is a good compromise available. | Jan 27 20:46 |
| MinceR | one of the main traits the memetic evolution of religion selects for is the immunization against removal and against competitors | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | we take all the good stuff offered by a relgion, then we put that in a new wrapper and ask non religious people to help with these good things | Jan 27 20:47 |
| gde33 | then we would be willing to help them | Jan 27 20:47 |
| MinceR | if it isn't based on reason, then it doesn't have a good foundation | Jan 27 20:47 |
| MinceR | and if it is, then it isn't religion. | Jan 27 20:47 |
| gde33 | some of it can be based on reason | Jan 27 20:48 |
| gde33 | if we the people start a non proffit to make a better world you better not get the idea to build a church from the donations | Jan 27 20:48 |
| gde33 | we might need to hire a few people to do the administration and we might need a building | Jan 27 20:49 |
| gde33 | if the church has a ready made building available for this it seems usable | Jan 27 20:49 |
| gde33 | hell, they would be doing the lords work? | Jan 27 20:50 |
| MinceR | what would that be? | Jan 27 20:50 |
| MinceR | exterminating lots of people for not being the chosen ones? :> | Jan 27 20:51 |
| gde33 | I think an atheist can be convinced to help the church if they would be doing something actually useful. | Jan 27 20:51 |
| MinceR | establishing the rules under which humans are to be trafficked in? :> | Jan 27 20:51 |
| gde33 | those things could all be repackaged | Jan 27 20:52 |
| gde33 | call it a new level of milder more moderated religion | Jan 27 20:52 |
| gde33 | they have to understand that doing good involves actual work | Jan 27 20:52 |
| MinceR | there are such religions | Jan 27 20:52 |
| MinceR | not abrahamic ones, though :> | Jan 27 20:52 |
| gde33 | if you interupt that work to read bibles you are not helping anyone | Jan 27 20:53 |
| gde33 | More general: we create organisations that may turn into giant monsters, we have to find a training method for the monster to learn new tricks. | Jan 27 20:55 |
| gde33 | it all seems far to static | Jan 27 20:56 |
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| gde33 | big tech companies buying small businesses is a way of learning something for such creature. | Jan 27 20:56 |
| gde33 | but how are we going to teach BP cold fusion? | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 20:57 |
| MinceR | or maybe we should just slay the monsters | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | if anything it is an argument pro dictatorship | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | nothing is like being judged by a single person | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 27 20:57 |
| MinceR | nothing is as bad, yes | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that's pro dictatorship | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | no no, if you add more people it gets worse | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | eventually we dont agree about anything | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | which slows down the destruction | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | so, a good thing | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | the thing becomes a life form in it self | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | and of course if people didn't suck quite so much, it could be much better | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | the components are not in charge of it | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | you will get a ticket type 44 as described in rule 1034 | Jan 27 20:59 |
| gde33 | I'm just the officer writing the ticket | Jan 27 20:59 |
| gde33 | I'm sorry ok? lol | Jan 27 20:59 |
| MinceR | "i was only obeying orders" | Jan 27 21:00 |
| MinceR | that's not a good excuse | Jan 27 21:00 |
| gde33 | but it works like thta | Jan 27 21:00 |
| MinceR | well yes, humanity works in a horrible way | Jan 27 21:00 |
| gde33 | you only need 2% to think like that to be able controll everyone else | Jan 27 21:00 |
| gde33 | it isn't something likely to get fixed | Jan 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | it will probably get fixed in the most painful method available | Jan 27 21:01 |
| gde33 | we could start with brainscans for politicians | Jan 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | overpopulation, wars, famine, plagues, extinction | Jan 27 21:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/4279080327991951361 | Jan 27 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No message found | Jan 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | maybe a bit of nuclear winter | Jan 27 21:01 |
| gde33 | nothing we cant handle | Jan 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: Sorry, that page doesn’t exist! | Jan 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | not sure what there is to handle about painful self-extermination | Jan 27 21:02 |
| gde33 | brainscans for politicians and a diploma before you get to vote | Jan 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | that won't help | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | I had some fun discussions with people about those 2 | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | why wont it help? | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | it merely installs a centralized authority that decides who gets to run for office and who gets to vote | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | sure, they'll claim it's for objective reasons | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | but it won't be | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | not if it cant contain the evil | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | if the evil cant manifest it cant run the place | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | it will | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | it's everywhere | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | we know that empathic people feel the pain of others | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | and people are trying hard to make it worse | Jan 27 21:04 |
| gde33 | I wouldnt mind making that a requirement for politicians | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | how would you enforce it? | Jan 27 21:04 |
| gde33 | just eliminate the psychopaths | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | how would you do that? | Jan 27 21:04 |
| gde33 | with brainscans and other tests | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | psychopathy is probably the most difficult kind of mental disorder to diagnose objectively | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | we dont need objectivity | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | part of it is that the psychopath tries to hide their own disorder | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | we need certainty | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | we do need objectivity | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | empathic people get seizurs when you show them choped up bodies on a monitor | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | without objectivity, you get people deciding who gets what | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | and corruption | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | if you can just sit there without any emotion you are not the man for the job | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | same system as before, maybe with a few more levels | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | i doubt that everyone who's desensitized to images of mutilated bodies is a psychopath | Jan 27 21:06 |
| gde33 | if you have an amount of people some will test obviously empathic, some will test obviously psychopatic and some will test average. | Jan 27 21:06 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it wasn't on any of the checklists i've seen | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | I dont think it is a sexy idea to put the clear psychopath in power | Jan 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure Cleckley didn't mention it in Mask of Sanity :> | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | he doesn't have what it takes | Jan 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | he'll speak to the people and make them believe that he does have what it takes | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | We could argue about average people but the cases where it is all to obvious should be eliminated. | Jan 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | also, tests can be corrupted | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | these are people who dont have activity in that part of their brain | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | you are setting up shop for wars | Jan 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | if the people doing the test aren't willing to lie about the results, the people in power will replace them | Jan 27 21:08 |
| gde33 | you can certainly have a few cases where it isn't easy to get a good rating | Jan 27 21:08 |
| gde33 | just publish the data? | Jan 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | also, i'm pretty sure a psychopath could fake discomfort | Jan 27 21:08 |
| gde33 | if you want to be a public figure, wouldnt you want to know this about yourself? | Jan 27 21:09 |
| gde33 | to what extend you are faking empathy? | Jan 27 21:09 |
| MinceR | they could tamper the data before publishing it | Jan 27 21:09 |
| gde33 | it wont make you less of a person | Jan 27 21:09 |
| gde33 | do you think a truly empathic person could just start a war for proffit? | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | personally, if you come to my desk to suggest such a thing I might just have to end you | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | no, i think a psychopath could easily fake being empathic | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | for your test | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | he cant | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | then they get into power and do whatever they wanted to do all along | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | the biological effect is to strong | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | while faking whatever emotions they need | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | people feel as if it is their finger being cut when looking at it | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | read Mask of Sanity :> | Jan 27 21:11 |
| gde33 | there is no evidence such tests can be faked but still it would add a layer of security | Jan 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | no, it wouldn't | Jan 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | it would merely add more hooks for corruption | Jan 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | and more chances to attack people the oligarchy doesn't want in power | Jan 27 21:11 |
| gde33 | dont you understand that some people have no feeling for others? | Jan 27 21:12 |
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| MinceR | i do | Jan 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | but it won't be easy to tell if they do or not | Jan 27 21:12 |
| gde33 | there are cases where we can establish this with great certainty | Jan 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | from the outside | Jan 27 21:12 |
| gde33 | or do you doubt there are such cases? | Jan 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | also, by the very nature of such testing there would be a small number of people making a decision | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | which would be easily subverted | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | the information could just be presented to the voter | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | the voter is not a trained psychiatrist | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | you are showing empathy to people who dont know what it means | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | why would you bother with that? | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | and any discrepancy could be explained as a different interpretation of the data | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | do you think they will aperciate it? | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | politicians already do that | Jan 27 21:14 |
| gde33 | they will think of it as your weakness | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | they'll present the data and their decision | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | and claim that the decision is based on the data | Jan 27 21:14 |
| gde33 | sure | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | and another expert will easily determined that the decision is bogus | Jan 27 21:14 |
| gde33 | you can have the tests done independently | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | while the ones on the politician's side will agree with it, no matter what | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | the other expert deserves a fair hearing | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | so, how many tests will decide if someone gets to run for office or not? | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | and how? | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | I'm still talking about the extreme cases where people have pretty much reverted to using nothing but their lizard brain | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | also, m$'s example should show that "independent" is easily thrown around | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | the john mcain kind of politician | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | where non of the brain works | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | that's the sort of people a large percentage of the voters want | Jan 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | most of the people are idiots | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | he just started singing bomb iraq bomb bomb iraq? | Jan 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | and i see no way of fixing that | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | he thought he was being funny | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aZPnwXV_700b_v1.jpg | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | that brings me to argument 2 | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | the voter diploma | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | :D | Jan 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | same problem | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | what do you mean? | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | you want to not know anything then decide stuff for me? | Jan 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | whoever hands out the diploma decides who gets to vote | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | gtfo? | Jan 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | and so they'll be corrupted to decide the corruptor's voters are eligible, others aren't | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | you just say that because you failed for the test | Jan 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what the corruptor will say | Jan 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jan 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | our commies before 1990 prohibited opposition parties from participating in the election by claiming that they were all "fascists" | Jan 27 21:19 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Jan 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | if you wanted democracy, you were a "fascist" | Jan 27 21:19 |
| gde33 | a very efficent system right there | Jan 27 21:20 |
| gde33 | we are going to do something like that to you | Jan 27 21:20 |
| gde33 | not just make you unelectable based on science data that says ur a nazi | Jan 27 21:20 |
| gde33 | but also not give you the diploma for not knowing anything at all about our great nation | Jan 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, "science" "data" | Jan 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | whoever writes the test decides what the right answers are | Jan 27 21:21 |
| gde33 | but hey, at least I've addressed earlier arguments of my content not being original enough. | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 21:22 |
| gde33 | I will just have to make this case in future arguments | Jan 27 21:22 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-the-americans-will-always-do-the-right-thing-after-they-ve-exhausted-all-the-alternatives-winston-churchill-326251.jpg | Jan 27 21:22 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/ep-machine.gif | Jan 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | :D | Jan 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | the execution is somewhat lacking | Jan 27 21:25 |
| gde33 | I was just distracted by the thoughts that gifs are really nice, not a lot of work to make for how funny they can be. | Jan 27 21:26 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/php-ani.gif | Jan 27 21:26 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/theorafish.gif | Jan 27 21:28 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/m$-but-fly.png | Jan 27 21:29 |
| gde33 | MinceR: but to get back to the combi, between wanting psychopaths and wanting uneducated people in government you've pretty much ruined everything. | Jan 27 21:32 |
| gde33 | there is no hope now | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | apparently you've failed at reading comprehension | Jan 27 21:32 |
| gde33 | it is either nazi's or nazi's | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | indeed there is no hope | Jan 27 21:32 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | whatever system you'll invent to restrict who can run for office or can vote, can and will be corrupted. | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | just like whatever system people coming up with organizing government can and will be corrupted | Jan 27 21:33 |
| gde33 | http://www.streetartutopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4602805654_db8b6569fb_b.jpeg | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | what if my dreams are nightmares? | Jan 27 21:33 |
| gde33 | we dont care what they are | Jan 27 21:34 |
| gde33 | you dont have dreams as far as the rest of us is concerned | Jan 27 21:34 |
| gde33 | we have nothing to worry about | Jan 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | indeed, worrying won't help either | Jan 27 21:36 |
| gde33 | I say first we get rid of government psycho's, then remove the people would cant be bothered to know anything from voting. | Jan 27 21:36 |
| gde33 | then at least our downfall will be well organised | Jan 27 21:37 |
| gde33 | then we increase the complexity of the voting process | Jan 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | and how would you do that? | Jan 27 21:38 |
| gde33 | excluding even more people | Jan 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | and how will increased complexity work? | Jan 27 21:38 |
| gde33 | voting more often on actual topics | Jan 27 21:38 |
| gde33 | involvement in decision making | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | most people can't be bothered | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | they already vote randomly | Jan 27 21:39 |
| gde33 | we can compensate them for not participating | Jan 27 21:39 |
| gde33 | they can always learn the nesasary stuff and join us | Jan 27 21:39 |
| gde33 | until they do they will just have to trust us | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | one way or annother | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | they can't and they don't care to | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | I dont see the problem with people who dont care | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | and if you devise a system to confirm that they've learned, that system will be compromised | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | cant we respect that? | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | people who don't care do a lot of damage | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | I'm looking for basic knowledge | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | people who don't care to think a bit voted hungary into a dictatorship | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | people who don't care to thing a bit keep the usa in its two-party system | Jan 27 21:41 |
| gde33 | we can eliminate most voters with the requirement of knowing which parties they can chose from. | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | probably same in the uk | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | not sure how that would work, considering that parties get nominated before the election | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | and there are a lot of parties who try to get nominated | Jan 27 21:42 |
| gde33 | we can require basic knowledge of each option | Jan 27 21:42 |
| MinceR | again, someone will decide what the right answers are | Jan 27 21:42 |
| gde33 | without knowledge of what the choices are your choice cant be considered as valauble as the next guy | Jan 27 21:42 |
| MinceR | and someone will tell the voters on their side what the right answers are | Jan 27 21:42 |
| gde33 | at first the test should be kintergarden level | Jan 27 21:43 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 21:43 |
| gde33 | most voters only know the names of the top 3 options | Jan 27 21:43 |
| MinceR | also, people will try to smear your test with all sorts of false stuff too, to fight it | Jan 27 21:43 |
| gde33 | thats fair | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | it deserves to be attacked | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | and it won't be introduced anywhere | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | for reasons you described earlier | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | unless the oligarchs want it to | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | but then they'll shape it to their needs | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | the idea is not at a stage where it can be implmeneted | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | but it is intersting to talk with people who argue they want to vote but they dont want to bother knowing anything | Jan 27 21:45 |
| gde33 | if you ask them how we are going to get it right they say ehhehehe | Jan 27 21:45 |
| gde33 | technically the correct response | Jan 27 21:46 |
| gde33 | If such a system would be taken over it would still allow for greater citizen participation? | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | it would seem to me that it would allow for less citizen participation | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | seeing how it's all about restricting who gets to participate | Jan 27 21:49 |
| gde33 | smaller numbers but more influence? | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | well, those are connected | Jan 27 21:50 |
| gde33 | the test could be designed to eliminate a fixed percentage of voters | Jan 27 21:50 |
| MinceR | in the extreme, you have one citizen participating, the Patrician | Jan 27 21:50 |
| MinceR | he is the Man, he has the Vote. | Jan 27 21:50 |
| gde33 | we merge his brain with the super computer | Jan 27 21:51 |
| gde33 | 3)???? 4) proffit! | Jan 27 21:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 21:52 |
| gde33 | it will be our only solution to avoid rule by AI | Jan 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | except he will be the AI and he will rule | Jan 27 21:55 |
| MinceR | so we won't avoid it at all | Jan 27 21:56 |
| gde33 | I liked Chavez TV show | Jan 27 22:02 |
| gde33 | who knows, maybe we could do a telepresence political model | Jan 27 22:02 |
| gde33 | cybernetic politicians with advanced telerobotics | Jan 27 22:04 |
| MinceR | how would you tell if they're psychopaths then? | Jan 27 22:06 |
| gde33 | by pluging into the live feeling telemetry feed | Jan 27 22:06 |
| gde33 | make it so that one can experience the representative | Jan 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | and then someone broke into the feed and made everyone die from a seizure :> | Jan 27 22:07 |
| gde33 | they are going to die anyway | Jan 27 22:08 |
| gde33 | at least it will be efficent | Jan 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | there are more efficient ways to kill everybody | Jan 27 22:08 |
| gde33 | less emotionally involved? | Jan 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | no, everybody | Jan 27 22:09 |
| gde33 | build in a safty system | Jan 27 22:09 |
| gde33 | mcaffee emo 2.0 | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | ooh | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | mcaffee for my neural system | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | i can't wait | Jan 27 22:10 |
| gde33 | you just configure the feelings you want | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | new and exciting ways to suffer and die | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | and you can't even uninstall it! | Jan 27 22:11 |
| gde33 | we always end up with that | Jan 27 22:11 |
| MinceR | of course the assumption that my neural system runs winblows is even scarier | Jan 27 22:11 |
| gde33 | it almost defeats the purpose of technology | Jan 27 22:11 |
| gde33 | bad patches :P | Jan 27 22:11 |
| MinceR | s/mcaffee/mcafee/ | Jan 27 22:12 |
| MinceR | (or, for german speakers, s/mcaffee/mcaffe/ :> ) | Jan 27 22:13 |
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| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7886825472 | Jan 27 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | Google "Duverger's Law" - Cheezburger | Jan 27 22:52 |
| gde33 | have people say their own opinion doesnt matter | Jan 27 22:59 |
| gde33 | if there was a 3rd party that represents what I believe I wouldnt vote for it because I dont want to be the first in anything. kind of logic | Jan 27 23:01 |
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| gde33 | MinceR: the oposite is also a fun picture, select the psycho as our leader then do an iq test to eliminate votes from overly brainy people. | Jan 27 23:14 |
| MinceR | what would that do? | Jan 27 23:14 |
| gde33 | it would make a collective out of people who really need one | Jan 27 23:15 |
| gde33 | and deploy a leader who knows he is a psycho, he should take some advice when it gets in the way | Jan 27 23:15 |
| gde33 | a bit like a surgeon would have to stay a bit emotionally detached | Jan 27 23:17 |
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| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7899670528 | Jan 27 23:53 |
| gde33 | MinceR: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/5-d_fI6_Gz8/kyAQzodJQWoJ | Jan 28 00:10 |
| MinceR | o_O | Jan 28 00:11 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | "We didn't make it for Indians, WE MADE IT FOR WESTERNERS *WHO CAN AFFORD IT*". | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | (Emphasis is mine) | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, not even all westerners, only the very rich ones. And I'm sure that even post-Obamacare, insurance companies will figure out some way to "discourage" customers that cost them $5,750 a month in drugs alone. People that are that sick are the reason Medicare and Medicaid exist. They're made a burden of the public because private insurers don't want those customers, only relatively healthy ones. That's why those programs are allowed | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | to exist. It's privatized profits and socialized losses. Lemon Socialism. | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's wonderful that India has used the force majeure of its national government against foreign predatory drug companies, to help cancer and HIV patients. | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | More countries should do this, and they should tell Obama and his corporate crapitalist cronies to go to hell, and exactly where to shove the TPP. | Jan 28 00:26 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 28 00:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427924662627360768 | Jan 28 01:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/427930702294687744 | Jan 28 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | Better anything than Apple. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's hard to imagine any devices that come along that could be more hostile to freedom than iThings. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Even Microsoft doesn't have a blanket ban of copyleft software on their Windows store. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they could at any point, and that sort of abuse is something that app store monopolies enable. | Jan 28 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | geez | Jan 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I've almost filled up my 2 TB hard drive. | Jan 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I need to go through looking for files that I don't need anymore. | Jan 28 01:29 |
| gde33 | DaemonFC: you just need to buy a new one ;) | Jan 28 01:32 |
| gde33 | when you have 6 TB or more you will see that cleaning up is pointless lol | Jan 28 01:33 |
| schestowitz__ | tessier: only 3 or so days left for the site's current host; can a VM be set up tomorrow? | Jan 28 01:43 |
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| schestowitz__ | gde33: I have 8 TV | Jan 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | YB | Jan 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | TB | Jan 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427981620151590912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427981789752463360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427982182611943424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427982622086537216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427983678804070400 | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Suppressing contenders http://t.co/5ibC3f61e1 | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> cheezburger.com | Google "Duverger's Law" - Cheezburger | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Without money" https://t.co/2ymr35Clbg | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: FBI: catching the "criminals" (privacy proponents) https://t.co/9k1mydwYjD | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Optical illusion in 3-D https://t.co/rz8rvd6QPL | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: War on #anonymity http://t.co/sAPrbgZEKb | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gizmodo.com | The FBI Seized All of TorMail's Data and Is Using It to Catch Hackers | Jan 28 01:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427984517043732480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427984787371208704 | Jan 28 02:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dreams http://t.co/8QPiNUHFfD | Jan 28 02:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Choices http://t.co/AeUW5Zpv41 #europe not much better http://t.co/tkQFRaz7ik | Jan 28 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/lKswZ2Hx32 | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikdx | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 13.10 Now http://t.co/Uw0RpadLPW | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikdy | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | My dad on Facebook regarding gay marriage. " So, besides offending a whole lot of people, confusing others, inspiring a lot of people to not care, and introducing that group to the joys of divorce, where is the prize?" | Jan 28 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Who cares if right-wing crazies in the American Taliban are offended? Seriously. Fuck them. I mean that. Fuck them very much. Sure, divorce will happen. I don't think it will exceed the embarrassingly high divorce rate of straight people, which is well over 50%." | Jan 28 02:18 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427987357179346945 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427987983837310977 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427988828792840192 | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now http://t.co/ripPBrlW6d #ubuntu #linux #gnu | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: New version of Google spyware is out http://t.co/GAlPwFpz7H #firefox improved a lot, people should revisit it | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Snowden-branded #nsa leaks are starting to slow down (infrequent new disclosures); are new anonymous leakers (using Snowden's name) afraid? | Jan 28 02:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 02:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 02:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "inBloom, I think, is a Gates thing." | Jan 28 02:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 02:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, I have already criticised that article at the time | Jan 28 02:29 |
| gde33 | does this link work? http://worldwide.espacenet.com/espacenetDocument.pdf?ND=3&flavour=printablePage&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090212&CC=WO&NR=2009019001A2&KC=A2&pageNumber=1 | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | http://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa/#comments | Jan 28 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fossforce.com | Is Red Hat Working for the NSA? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/gikij ] | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Some of those are facts, and I should read the rest of them again, but e.g. my take on Linus’ father was that he was speculating. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Mixing facts and speculation doesn’t make them all facts. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | BSD devs don’t trust HW RNG’s, neither Linux devs. And Linux devs treat every bug the same way, security implications or not. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I might not like it but that’s the way they work. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | My final question to you is: given your distrust on RedHat, how can you recommend people to use CentOS, given that they use the same sources? | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I wouldn’t trust them either, especially since they’re part of RedHat now. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 02:31 |
| gde33 | I had annother great idea to limit peoples freedom, bra locks with build-in iq test. | Jan 28 02:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427990874623332352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427991391818772480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427992803067846656 | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List http://t.co/3pSFDIPo7m #gnome #gnu #linux | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? http://t.co/7FHwBvEqCB #zdnet again http://t.co/xffqS65Bil | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> m.itworld.com | Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | ITworld | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce http://t.co/OzhzH4H7sI #kfce #kde #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk | Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HFf3jpBFnR | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmf | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | List http://t.co/ZUrs38Ge1p | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmh | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hx198qw7E5 | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmi | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uqA6uuyLBD | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmj | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427998519069528064 | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #seagate are incompetent; if all they can replace a faulty drive with is another faulty drive, then it's better if they don't bother at all. | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Kaitlyneene @tuxmachines 20 minutos... *o* | Jan 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/sDjctLXYgf | Jan 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giknd | Jan 28 02:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kaitlyneene: @tuxmachines 20 minutos... *o* http://t.co/sDjctLXYgf | Jan 28 02:57 |
| gde33 | MinceR: I'm still on our choice between nazi's or nazi's | Jan 28 03:15 |
| gde33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TlVqXVSz6w | Jan 28 03:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | WE ARE THE NAZIS - 911 THE MUSICAL - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gikpq ] | Jan 28 03:15 |
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| gde33 | common guys, we will win this war? | Jan 28 03:58 |
| tessier | schestowitz__: I'm working on a VM now... | Jan 28 05:02 |
| tessier | schestowitz__: /home is 99% full btw. Do you get emails when this happens? The monitoring system is configured to send them... | Jan 28 05:05 |
| tessier | I just extended the logical volume for /home... | Jan 28 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | The Indiana General Assembly just voted to strike the second sentence from the marriage discrimination amendment. | Jan 28 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | That means that they have to pass it again every year through 2016 before it can be placed on the ballot. | Jan 28 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | I think the Republicans did this because they hope that the courts will save them from having to vote in favor of the amendment. | Jan 28 05:33 |
| tessier | Indiana....I have lots of family there. | Jan 28 06:55 |
| tessier | Mostly conservative and mostly bigots of one sort or another. | Jan 28 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | the rural parts | Jan 28 07:05 |
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| *MinceR_ is now known as MinceR | Jan 28 09:12 | |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-23/tor-anonymity-software-vs-dot-the-national-security-agency | Jan 28 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessweek.com | Tor Anonymity Software vs. the National Security Agency - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/ghnni ] | Jan 28 09:29 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:05] <tessier> schestowitz__: /home is 99% full btw. Do you get emails when this happens? The monitoring system is configured to send them... | Jan 28 09:30 |
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| schestowitz__ | oops, I know why this happened. Must always have around 3 GB free for the backups to take place (DBs are over 2 GB) | Jan 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: I posted a link to it some days ago when it was first published | Jan 28 09:32 |
| iophk | Yes, I just now noticed that it actually made the cover. | Jan 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | I said they had spun it | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Tor has some support from gov | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Origin and funding | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | For their astroturf ro whatever | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | and propping up coups in other countries perhaps | Jan 28 09:37 |
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| schestowitz__ | The BW/bloomberg article goes further by characterising it as a property of the gov, I think | Jan 28 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Entertainment is another word for a palliative against one's disatisfaction with oneself. Unless one is first able to be happy while just being, without distraction (including thinking), then one craves entertainment. Conversely, if one is able to be content alone and not distracted from one's own being, entertainment serves no purpose, but can be taken, or left aside, with equal ease."77" | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559214 | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #outage at #nsa #dropbox "was caused by internal maintenance," according to DropBox. Setting up more doors for NSA? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/11/dropbox | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | You would not expect these geniuses to contract out to companies for this kind of thing. Remember when the CIA director got caught in some woman's Yahoo?"77" | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wired.co.uk | Hackers claim responsibility for Dropbox outage (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/gimm0 ] | Jan 28 09:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428101598775365632 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428101788529881088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428102151005810688 | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #GNU in the Days of #UNIX http://t.co/7vusjlD9rV | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » GNU in the Days of UNIX | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #TuxMachines Site Migration Imminent (Updatex2) http://t.co/lTRwDjCQkr The target VM is now ready. | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Site Migration Imminent (Updatex2) | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #seagate claims to have warranty, but what it actually means is, you can send faulty drive at own expense to get a different faulty one | Jan 28 09:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558771 | Jan 28 09:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies https://beyondrevolution.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/over-half-of-germanys-renewable-energy-owned-by-citizens-farmers-not-utility-companies/ #germany #ebergy | Jan 28 09:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> beyondrevolution.wordpress.com | Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies | Beyond Revolution [ http://ur1.ca/gimml ] | Jan 28 09:49 |
| schestowitz__ | "Good. Now if this can just happen everywhere..." | Jan 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3339990 | Jan 28 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @smg@diasp.org: #fsf #unix #c #linux #gnu | Jan 28 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by smg@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 28 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by smg@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | 'He was probably at a seminar or whatever in Britain or speaking about the british market, would be my guess. AS IF BRITAIN IS DEVOID OF SOCIOPATHS! For shame." | Jan 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558618 | Jan 28 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rich people: people are poor because they're lazy; Poor people, indoctrinated by rich people-owned media: I just need to work harder. | Jan 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "When in reality, it is because the rich people have forced those poorer than them into debt. We have to take out loans (debt) of debt-based money in order to do almost anything because it is nearly impossible to save up for large purchases (cars, houses, college) because the money loses its value before it can be spent. And by rich people, I exclude the majority of business owners who are also forced to use debt." | Jan 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556127 | Jan 28 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hollywood and celebs: all the distraction our world needs to be blind to state crimes, tyranny, & other illegalities http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/op-ed-msnbc-cuts-off-nsa-interview-for-breaking-news-of-bieber-arrest/article/367332 | Jan 28 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.digitaljournal.com | Op-Ed: MSNBC cuts off NSA interview for 'breaking news' of Bieber arrest [ http://ur1.ca/gi5lj ] | Jan 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "Considering the "press" is owned by tConsidering the "press" is owned by the same people that own the government through bribes, sorry "campaign contributions", it would not surprise me were giddy when they found out about this."he same people that own the government through bribes, sorry "campaign contributions", it would not surprise me were giddy when they found out about this. | Jan 28 09:51 |
| MinceR | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5fhL002JJ7I/UuPRfm_iAyI/AAAAAAAA83o/yhyv-g_gSYg/w499-h551-no/jesus.jpg | Jan 28 09:52 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: yeah | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558657 | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Get 'em while they're young," they say... http://io9.com/the-nsas-website-for-kids-isnt-creepy-nope-not-cree-1508865211 | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> io9.com | The NSA's website for kids isn't creepy. Nope. Not creepy at all. [ http://ur1.ca/gimp1 ] | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Indoctrination of the young and impressionable is always creep-tastic." | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558215 | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/note-3-users-samsung-disabled-unofficial-accessories-via-software-update/ #samsung #ballnux | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ei ] | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "...taking a page from Apple's playbook..." | Jan 28 09:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 09:54 |
| MinceR | also, region lock | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Apple is suffering from ANdroud now | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | it too is a religion | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | preying on young and unpopular | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Thinking they'd substitute bad life with a tiny worship-worthy machine | Jan 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558510 | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #drones with legs, wheels, etc. http://www.slashgear.com/u-s-army-expects-to-replace-a-quarter-of-soldiers-with-robots-by-2040-23314216/ http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/us-army-hopes-replace-25-soldiers-robots-2040/20003 http://www.voanews.com/content/us-army-envisions-more-robotic-future/1836408.html | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slashgear.com | U.S. Army expects to replace a quarter of soldiers with robots by 2040 - SlashGear [ http://ur1.ca/gimpc ] | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040 - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gimpe ] | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.voanews.com | U.S. Army Envisions More Robotic Future [ http://ur1.ca/gimpf ] | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/raEmqlSVYq | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimph | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung rumoured to release ‘Galaxy Glass’ IFA | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Berlin 2014 http://t.co/dMMoi9ANUk | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimpj | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung rumoured to release ‘Galaxy Glass’ IFA Berlin 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | "An unquestioning army who will never question their orders, regardless of how inhumane they are..." | Jan 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/01/27/richard-shermans-winning-rant/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=richard-shermans-winning-rant | Jan 28 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | Richard Sherman's Winning Rant [ http://ur1.ca/gimqx ] | Jan 28 10:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428107414454689792 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428109367335190528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428110498807418880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428111285625307136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428111550541737984 | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Case of the Missing OS, or Did Apple Eat Pear? http://t.co/IUT2YEVQw6 #apple #pearos http://t.co/FIB9D1ZsFq | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxinsider.com | The Case of the Missing OS, or Did Apple Eat Pear? | Community | LinuxInsider | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Why a Deletion of Pear OS From the Web (Including SourceForge) is Mysterious | Techrights | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment http://t.co/DoM6WPFaRm #ome | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux http://t.co/1OdZhlkivb #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Paradox' Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux - Muktware | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #samsung to produce #linux based #cctv glasses too http://t.co/nf9ocOvQ1v | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung rumoured to release 'Galaxy Glass' IFA Berlin 2014 - Muktware | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 http://t.co/IWkKeIANmH #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.junauza.com | 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | TechSource | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | heading for Linux http://t.co/tC1L7sDv2X | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzg | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Knoppix Review, Shotwell's Future, and 5 | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Insults http://t.co/jyK3N0sMIK | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzh | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Knoppix Review, Shotwell's Future, and 5 Insults | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fSSNFm4EOQ | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzj | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Make Peace with pax http://t.co/blPp8TfIbu | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzk | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Make Peace with pax | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| iophk | ok, authorized access then? | Jan 28 10:39 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/microsoft-rules-out-back-door-access-to-mps-electronic-communications | Jan 28 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Microsoft rules out ‘back door’ access to MPs’ electronic communications | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gin07 ] | Jan 28 10:39 |
| iophk | It's probably right there in the EULA | Jan 28 10:39 |
| iophk | http://bluesky.chicagotribune.com/hub/chi-mit-finding-competitive-advantage-in-open-source-bsi-hub,0,0.htmlstory?track=bluesky-ct-head | Jan 28 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | bluesky.chicagotribune.com | How open-source software drives innovation - Blue Sky Innovation [ http://ur1.ca/gin0i ] | Jan 28 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: good link | Jan 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | I will write about it later | Jan 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | The Guardian covers up for Microsoft again | Jan 28 10:45 |
| iophk | *EULA -> EULA(s) | Jan 28 10:47 |
| MinceR | http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/10000/0000/700/210759/210759.strip.zoom.gif | Jan 28 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.datamation.com/news/tech-comics-geek-spoilsports-1.html | Jan 28 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.datamation.com | Tech Comics: Geek Spoilsports - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/gin2f ] | Jan 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: any related articles? | Jan 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | I xdidn't see one with accusations | Jan 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a defence of Microsoft | Jan 28 10:53 |
| iophk | not off hand | Jan 28 10:53 |
| iophk | possibly a pre-emptive strike to distract from something. | Jan 28 10:54 |
| iophk | It might be in reference to something months old. | Jan 28 10:54 |
| iophk | http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40836.html | Jan 28 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.marketoracle.co.uk | NSA Built Back Door In All Microsoft Windows Software Since 1999 :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting Free Website [ http://ur1.ca/gin3b ] | Jan 28 10:56 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/11/snowden_leak_shows_microsoft_added_outlookencryption_backdoor_for_feds/ | Jan 28 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Snowden leak: Microsoft added Outlook.com backdoor for Feds • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gin3d ] | Jan 28 10:56 |
| iophk | http://www.zentyal.org/2013/12/zentyal-3-3-featuring-microsoft-exchange-server-replacement-is-now-available/ | Jan 28 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zentyal.org | News - Zentyal 3.3, featuring Microsoft Exchange Server replacement, is now available | Linux Small Business Server [ http://ur1.ca/gin3q ] | Jan 28 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428114838909648896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428118783325388800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428119179775180800 | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview http://t.co/C7F7MdhwWN #ubuntu #debian #linux | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Delivery #drones http://t.co/UPzo7M0ljZ | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How open-source software drives innovation http://t.co/m4gQ9SWY10 because the "i" word (innovation) is hip these days | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: yes, but these are from last year | Jan 28 10:57 |
| iophk | yes, old | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | was there a new complaint in Aussie Greens? | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Cause I saw no coverage of them | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | certainly not from Gates-funded 'guardian' | Jan 28 10:58 |
| iophk | maybe this? | Jan 28 10:58 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/18/us-able-monitor-australian-mps | Jan 28 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Australian MPs could be exposed to US surveillance, IT official concedes | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gin4r ] | Jan 28 10:58 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, but oldish | Jan 28 10:58 |
| iophk | Of course the Guardian is not going to help by linking to any other articles, old or new. | Jan 28 10:59 |
| iophk | It could be in response to the old article or a distraction from something else happening now. | Jan 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | like what? | Jan 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | I didn't see MS in the headlines, except for lies | Jan 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Brad Smith and others claiming to move "cloud" out of US for non-US 'customers | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Huff Puff/AOL printed this nonsense | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It's a PR plot | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It's a PR ploy | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | because of seagate I didn't have time to look into NSA news yesterday | Jan 28 11:02 |
| iophk | I wouldn't know, the good headlines are often buried. | Jan 28 11:04 |
| iophk | also old : | Jan 28 11:10 |
| iophk | http://delimiter.com.au/2013/11/20/worst-cio-job-australia/ | Jan 28 11:10 |
| iophk | "We know that Microsoft software contains a back door which is utilised by the US NSA and Microsoft has been very active in assisting the NSA to circumvent the company’s own encryption standards." | Jan 28 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | delimiter.com.au | Worst CIO job in Australia? - Delimiter [ http://ur1.ca/ginba ] | Jan 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428122907362217984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428123158898835456 | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "The gist of the story is that "123456" is now the most commonly used weak password" http://t.co/WgDLMp1XLC I use people who use it! | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Password Security Requires Multiple Layers of Protection | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/dpihChLXRQ #amd #nvidia #linux | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Preview http://t.co/muSFpXX0UJ | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ginch | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/poNqc61Mla | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gincj | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Four must try Indie games on Linux | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OvCPHvpGn7 | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ginck | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Four must try Indie games on Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3565099 | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Optical illusion in 3-D https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Xw1Z_-WwUkccw1tZ8nCsSW_IjdvrWx2vlBgKskRnBJE=w402-h223-no | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVBDBGSt-DQ | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | floating box illusion - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gincq ] | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 11:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "yep https://plus.google.com/u/0/100647702320088380533/posts/XUATuoci42L http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/to-lisa-macfarlane-and-suzanne-estey-and-you-thought-it-was-a-conspiracy-theory/ oh look, it's you https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/P8k9iHsvWNJ '" | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | glyn moody - Google+ - All Your Child's Data Are Belong To InBloom -… [ http://ur1.ca/gind0 ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | seattleducation2010.wordpress.com | To Lisa Macfarlane and Suzanne Estey: And you thought it was a conspiracy theory? | Seattle Education [ http://ur1.ca/gind1 ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | Will Hill - Google+ - We covered inBloom before. It’s like Gates’ own mini-PRISM.… [ http://ur1.ca/gind2 ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Thankful for the mention... | Jan 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3565107 | Jan 28 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: War on #anonymity http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-seized-all-of-tormails-data-and-is-using-it-to-1509838202 | Jan 28 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gizmodo.com | The FBI Seized All of TorMail's Data and Is Using It to Catch Hackers [ http://ur1.ca/gind6 ] | Jan 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "Gizmodo is stupid. FBI uses Windows malware, search warrants and duress to steal a database, so Gizmodo concludes TOR is worthless. No, what's worthless for your privacy is Windows, non free software and US hosting." | Jan 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3561448 | Jan 28 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/26/edward-snowden-threats_n_4670786.html remember when the #fbi sent letters with death threats? | Jan 28 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life [ http://ur1.ca/gindc ] | Jan 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "I would like more people appreciate what Snowden did and realize what costed him. There would be no need of a handful of heros if millons of people acted like responsible citizens." | Jan 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | several other NSA employees are now following his example and leaking more documents, published with attribution to Snowden for their safety, based on G.A.P. | Jan 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't disagree and think we're just highlighting different aspects of the issue. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | However, rather than demeaning or downgrading TV watchers, I'm encouraging people to consider what they do and why, and providing a simple and easy way to test out my statement, for anyone with a mind to wake up. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Try changing a habit, and if you can't, well, are you curious to know why is that? Is that OK for you? And if not, well the solution is in there too. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | The last part is not easy though, and something I have been working on for years, with some success, but always many more habits to challenge, and aspects of myself that I struggle to be with. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | My wife and I don't watch TV. I gave away my last set about a decade ago, and I've hardly missed a thing. In fact, the world (outdoor) and society (communication) is too good to be wasted, esp. if the alternative is a one-way broadcast (data-pushing) apparatus which treats us like fetuses. | Jan 28 12:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428124064134475776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428132567511228416 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428132604043612160 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428139298849054720 | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Four must try Indie games on Linux http://t.co/ZOhfPIygdk #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Four must try Indie games on Linux - Muktware | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Developers, generally speaking, want to share their code with other developers." http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ebb.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "It's lawyers and business people with dollar signs in their eyes who want to make proprietary software." http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "EU agreed its current Data Protection Directive in 1995... Mark Zuckerberg was just 11." http://t.co/AF3PcDFKeV #privacy | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ec.europa.eu | Data Protection Day - European Commission | Jan 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428140421978808320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428140949341224960 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428141643678887936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428142642552397824 | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First ever #CryEngine Game to head for Linux http://t.co/SYNUe2gEDV #gnu #linux #games | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Google Patent aims to offer ad based driverless taxi service - Muktware | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Speaking personally, I have never, ever, switched off comments on my blog posts or deleted posts" http://t.co/kqNlF20wVv | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.jonobacon.org | On Accountability | jonobacon@home | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux http://t.co/O69j7D7CpU #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The state of digital freedom in 2014 http://t.co/oYSFnxCvhr OSI president speaks about freedom, not openness. #fsf #gnu | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.infoworld.com | The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Open Source Software - InfoWorld | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever CryEngine Game to head for Linux | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fEa6kjsvDv | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9h | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3bR3IpxUyY | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9i | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | First ever CryEngine Game to head for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MfoaZyHKiC | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9j | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Actually Stable http://t.co/3xYxyltRWB | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9k | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/finnish-schools-using-open-source-reap-savings | Jan 28 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gioc3 ] | Jan 28 13:11 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428159303124803584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428155742445924353 | Jan 28 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Finnish schools using open source reap savings https://t.co/Gq6rJq0aoy #finland #freedom #freesw | Jan 28 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable http://t.co/PmJ8O542qn #gnu #linux | Jan 28 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone | Jan 28 13:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428159824514519040 | Jan 28 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Upgrading home connection to fibre-optics; 80Mbit download, 20Mbit upload. This will hopefully make the connections more stable, too. | Jan 28 13:37 |
| MinceR | if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it. | Jan 28 13:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 13:41 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's great. :-) TV is the headline here, because almost everyone has one, and many watch a lot of it, but it it's not the point of my post, which is about the many ways people are averse to being, and how disempowering this can be." | Jan 28 13:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428160575764713473 | Jan 28 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox http://t.co/TX9o4W4BcZ #gnome #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 28 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.datamation.com | KDE Desktop Vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox - Datamation | Jan 28 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/glkQ61PhmF | Jan 28 13:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ew9Y4fz3Yg | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gionn | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Tux Machines | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox | Tux Machines | Jan 28 13:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428164913748770817 | Jan 28 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ForgeRock rocks with #Sun projects http://t.co/uLD8XreDH0 | Jan 28 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itwire.com | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Jan 28 13:59 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: I habe some posts scheduled for tonight | Jan 28 13:59 |
| iophk | cool | Jan 28 13:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I have lots planned for yesterday, but Seagate drive arrive and it was as broken as the one it replaced | Jan 28 14:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Burned 4 hours of my time, killed my appetiate, and even ruined my morning | Jan 28 14:00 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if a company can be held legally liable for replacing faulty with faulty under "warrany" | Jan 28 14:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a total waste of time, would be better to use the time to just buy a new drive | Jan 28 14:01 |
| iophk | I've heard that some send refurbished drives as warranty replacements. | Jan 28 14:01 |
| iophk | How long was the warranty? 1,2,5 years? | Jan 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Tonight I need to set up NRPE on dozens of Debian servers, then I can post lots of good articles again, can pick up pace again this year, and am getting fibre next month... | Jan 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | 2 years | Jan 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | the new drive sort of hangs up randomly | Jan 28 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Sometimes while formatting | Jan 28 14:02 |
| iophk | There was a recent report rating Seagate as very low on reliabi.lity | Jan 28 14:02 |
| iophk | Hitachi was best in the report. | Jan 28 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I need to focus on TuxMachiens migration, so I'll put off any futher work on the drive. I will do a thorough fsck thius weekend and use it to prove they sent me garbage | Jan 28 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Segates's official account in twitter already stepped in for damage control | Jan 28 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | I got Hitachi as a replacement for a bad laptop drive in my Compaq | Jan 28 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | IIRC it lasted for many years | Jan 28 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | When I tried it in 2001, around 10 years later, I think it did get some inode issues (under DSL), but that was the last time I played with that old laptop (32 MB of RAM) | Jan 28 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Hitachi=IBM | Jan 28 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Is that something that's in China's hands now too? | Jan 28 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM makes me think, maybe the future realy is IT staff losing jobs to China (the Symphony team is largely Chinese) and China is going to just buy or overrise US brands | Jan 28 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | And then there's India | Jan 28 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | China, reportedly, is now getting more involved in software, just like India | Jan 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | huiman resources (time) are cheap there | Jan 28 14:06 |
| iophk | Their R&D may not be so good but then the US has been cutting and cutting R&D for years now. | Jan 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | They can do extreme programming, like having 3 people working on a program at once, spotting issues like they do in factories | Jan 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | My siuster works with Chinese programmers who are in GE, and she's says they're not so good.... yet GE has been dropping US workers and hiring in China for a while | Jan 28 14:07 |
| schestowitz__ | My brother's old company did the same with India, and some said that the cost of fixing their programming mistakes (I actually think they have fantastic programmers) is higher than the savings of outsourcing the job | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Mass production paradigm is being ytested in s/w now | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | See Microsoft | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Around Vista they send the programming to India | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Same with Adobe | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | And look what happened | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Saved money on wages, but the software is not necessarily better, to say the least | Jan 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz__ | It's good for managers, perhaps, but even that's doubtab;e | Jan 28 14:09 |
| iophk | M$ has never had good quality though. And I can't recall when Adobe last was good. | Jan 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Class war is now also a war t devalue IT pros, driving their wages down, increasing working hours, stress, etc. | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Automation experts too are no longer valued | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Like outsourcing the outsiurcers | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Eventually the outsourcers too will see themselves replaced by thiose whom they promote | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | FOSS is one way to reduce costs | Jan 28 14:10 |
| iophk | Saves effort, too. | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and then sort of justify the expense of hiring expensive staff | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Like people who manage 1000 servers at once | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | with no costs associated with the automation (puppet, nagios, etc.) involves | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | *ved | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:59] <TechrightsBot-tr> @schestowitz: #ForgeRock rocks with #Sun projects http://t.co/uLD8XreDH0 | Jan 28 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itwire.com | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The FOSS SMBs are good to work for | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | They have large companies as clients | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | staff can work from home, bossing minimal | Jan 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz__ | People motivated by eagerness to deploy FOSS | Jan 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz__ | An ideaological boss of sorts | Jan 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Like political drives, or advocacy | Jan 28 14:13 |
| iophk | , | Jan 28 14:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | We estimate your download speed will be between 79.9Mb and 80Mb. | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | We estimate your upload speed will be between 20Mb and 20Mb. | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children. That's why we include free BT Parental Controls with all our broadband packages. | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If you haven't already, turn on BT Parental Controls now. | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | (you'll need to log in and click the BT Parental Controls tile) | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | LOL | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | At least it's still OFF by DEDAULT | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Won't be for long | Jan 28 14:19 |
| iophk | Nope, not for long. | Jan 28 14:20 |
| iophk | When it's deployed widely enough, they'll throw th.e switch | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | It's not important what _I_ do | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Sites like TorrentFreak get blocked | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | So people around me will continues to be brainwashed only by one side of the feud | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | And it hurts everyone | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | lullung the population | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | TPP - sounds good, freedom... trade... | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Frzcking- cool, mate, saves me in energy bills | Jan 28 14:22 |
| iophk | Reminds me a little of how Groklaw and other sites were blocked during the OOXML scandal due to a 'contract dispute' Funny how nothing like that has happened before or since. I guess with the BTPC, some sites will get blocked "accidentally" at key times. | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Censorship - well, think about the children | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | DPI - against terrorism, helps me get targetted marketing | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklaw was blocked? | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | PJ never explained to me that | Jan 28 14:23 |
| iophk | In parts of Europe. | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | she abstained form commenting | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | I think Websense blacklisted her | Jan 28 14:23 |
| iophk | Updegrove and some others were als o blocked. | Jan 28 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | on what grounds was it? | Jan 28 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow | Jan 28 14:24 |
| iophk | Some were blocked directly others because the DNS they used were blocked. | Jan 28 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if i should be careful with the photos of drone victims | Jan 28 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | They could use that as an excuse for blocking. I never had someone reporting to me that s/he had been blocked, not even in censorship-happy nations | Jan 28 14:24 |
| iophk | It was interesting that the pro-standards people were clustered around certain companies and blocking that one company could block directly / indirectly the sites. It let up hours after the vote. | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | *a few | Jan 28 14:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Not even when I wrote a lot morew and get around 3 million hits per week (now it's less than that) | Jan 28 14:25 |
| schestowitz__ | One day we can get bloc0ked | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | (16.23.57) schestowitz__: on what grounds was it? | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | The claim was a contract dispute between networks... | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | "happens all the time" was the excuse. | Jan 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. now that I dtop links on NSA, GCHQ, some leaks (not as many original ones as before), criticism of armies... | Jan 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz__ | This reminds me, I have a load of links to dtop about it... hang on... | Jan 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428170138635235328 | Jan 28 14:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "BT Cloud - online storage with 50GB of space" - cool, now you can share your personal data with #gchq and #nsa for FREE! | Jan 28 14:27 |
| iophk | Groklaw was blocked in late march 2008 according to old mails. | Jan 28 14:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428174732878680064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428175005625876480 | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BT E-mail: "Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls. Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children." | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Think about the children! They might read _*gasp_* news sites like TorrentFreak (blocked by Sky) and be exposed to other views. | Jan 28 14:38 |
| iophk | The block was not everywhere just in some regions IIRC | Jan 28 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, Norway IIRC | Jan 28 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | her readers in Norway reported this at the time | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source venture that's profited from | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oracle's actions http://t.co/lrDylf8App | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gipa1 | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Tux Machines | Jan 28 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | She may have mentioned in in news Picks | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | TBH, I have not been to GL for months | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder how much the archive is good for when it comes to traffic, which is what matters because it gauges impact factor | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklw is badly build in the SEO sense | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Comments are hidden by default for one thing | Jan 28 14:40 |
| iophk | Yeah, most CMS are bad for that. | Jan 28 14:40 |
| iophk | The Comes v M$ stuff could also use metadata to aid in the searching. | Jan 28 14:43 |
| iophk | I wonder if it would be practical or appropriate to convert it to static HTML or just leave it? | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I don;t think many would pursue Comes docs anymore | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft is dying | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | no matter what they say and how they cook the books | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | many businesses still feed MS, but for how long? | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | We help some migrate to Linux at the server room AND desktop (Ubuntu mostly) | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | main fileserver transition due tonight at midland | Jan 28 14:45 |
| iophk | Nice. | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | And once these succeed, the word spreads | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | and more in the same sector follow, as they do... | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428176608332357633 | Jan 28 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Links 28/01/2014: Recent News About Militarism, Violence http://t.co/51lTe1RUo8 news from the past week or so | Jan 28 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 28/01/2014: Recent News About Militarism, Violence | Techrights | Jan 28 14:45 |
| iophk | https://threatpost.com/issa-five-other-congressmen-call-for-dni-clappers-removal/103890 | Jan 28 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | threatpost.com | Congressmen Call For DNI Clapper's Ouster | Threatpost - English - Global - threatpost.com [ http://ur1.ca/gipcr ] | Jan 28 14:46 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428178798874730496 | Jan 28 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Issa, Five Other Congressmen Call For DNI Clapper’s Removal https://t.co/DqFbqyxvzv removal only? How about prosecution? #nsa | Jan 28 15:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Jan 28 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aU3moYATom | Jan 28 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gipvc | Jan 28 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 15:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567159 | Jan 28 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "BT Cloud - online storage with 50GB of space" - cool, now you can share your personal data with #gchq and #nsa for FREE! | Jan 28 16:02 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "you paid for it" | Jan 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567252 | Jan 28 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BT E-mail: "Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls. Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children." | Jan 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Reaky , anyone recently watched v for vendetta ? You britons r headed that way , in the speed line ..." | Jan 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Parental Controls...is important for everyone" Adults too, I guess... | Jan 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3563241 | Jan 28 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #KMail Complexity - and a little Patience http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/197664/index.html #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 28 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lxer.com | LXer: KMail Complexity - and a little Patience [ http://ur1.ca/ginfq ] | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That's one of the reasons your E17 desktop seems so smooth. If you turn on Kmail, that effect will go away. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | KDE, to their credit, is working to make that search less obnoxious but I don't see how it can work. The only time I used Nepomuk was when Kmail demanded it for search. Even though I limited it to my email, it consumed 50 to 100% of my cpu for a week or two. It finally calmed down. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The first and only time I tried to actually search my email using the fancy database, it deleted all of my email. The damn thing froze as soon as I pressed the search button. I waited for it to do what it wanted and was horrified to see that everything had been erased. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those two things, depending on database for core functions and risk of complete email loss, are why I'm going to use Trinity for my email. Wheezy has the last version of Kmail that I'd recommend to anyone, so I recommend other email clients to new users now. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | thunderbird is very good and themes make it integrate well with everything | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "?You said it well." | Jan 28 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I tried, without success, for about 20 minutes to find the long writerup about why not to use DDG. I was unable to find it via G+, D*, personal site sections, Google search. Is that still online? | Jan 28 16:06 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2325542/gchq-is-monitoring-facebook-likes-and-youtube-with-operation-squeaky-dolphin | Jan 28 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | GCHQ is monitoring Facebook Likes and Youtube with Operation Squeaky Dolphin- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gipyy ] | Jan 28 16:08 |
| iophk | http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/angry-bird-told-nsa-youre/story?id=22251583 | Jan 28 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | A Little (Angry) Bird Told the NSA What You’re Up To - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/giq0w ] | Jan 28 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428183706365607936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428197805581406208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428198599433134080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428198948810264576 | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GCHQ taught NSA how to #monitor Facebook , #Twitter in real time – #Snowden leak http://t.co/q1UEdpUyzZ #gchq #nsa | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NO TITLE | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 http://t.co/KUO72jWFJH margins make #linux #arm etc. take over | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> mrpogson.com | More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Robert Pogson | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know http://t.co/5hjIGHEDtY http://t.co/OQtqziY61t http://t.co/3ZPzslitzo | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know - thanks to ANGRY BIRDS • The Register | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.sky.com | Angry Birds: NSA And GCHQ Harvest Apps Data | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds and 'leaky' phone apps targeted by NSA and GCHQ for user data | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR." (using sex in attempt to cause suicide) http://t.co/a6hoQTMYSa MLK died later | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> destee.com | J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. | Black People Meet | African Americans | Destee | Jan 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: toy beat me to it | Jan 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *you | Jan 28 16:15 |
| iophk | So it got a little help with the popularity... | Jan 28 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, well... | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I just showed it to Rianne | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | she and I played a finished many of the Angry Birds series | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And there's no escaping the spying, even in games | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google cghq xbox live | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NSA, GCHQ can listen to Xbox Live chat communications - Eurogamer | http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-09-nsa-gchq-can-listen-to-xbox-live-chat-communications | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - World of Spycraft: NSA, GCHQ hacked WoW and Xbox Live, other ... | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/world-of-spycraft-nsa-gchq-hacked-wow-and-xbox-live-other-games/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NSA and GCHQ spied on Xbox Live and World of Warcraft gamers ... | http://www.express.co.uk/news/science-technology/447704/NSA-and-GCHQ-spied-on-Xbox-Live-and-World-of-Warcraft-gamers-to-counter-terrorism | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - NSA And GCHQ Allegedly Spying On Xbox Live Gamers | http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/12/09/nsa-and-gchq-allegedly-spying-on-xbox-live-gamers/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google cghq world of warcraft | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NSA and GCHQ spies 'operated in games including World of ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/video-game-news/10506017/NSA-and-GCHQ-spies-operated-in-games-including-World-of-Warcraft-and-Second-Life.html | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - NSA, GCHQ 'planted agents' into World of Warcraft, Second Life to ... | http://rt.com/news/nsa-uk-spy-world-warcraft-942/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NSA and GCHQ agents spied on online gamers using World of ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/nsa-and-gchq-agents-spied-on-online-gamers-using-world-of-warcraft-and-second-life-8993432.html | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - World of Spycraft: NSA, GCHQ hacked WoW and Xbox Live, other ... | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/world-of-spycraft-nsa-gchq-hacked-wow-and-xbox-live-other-games/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| iophk | I guess Tetris was almost as popular but not as bloated. | Jan 28 16:18 |
| iophk | No space for spy stuff. | Jan 28 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's duiguised as "business model" | Jan 28 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Allowing the app to connect to the Web | Jan 28 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | sending out data, not just fetching ads | Jan 28 16:18 |
| iophk | Apparently a lot of other apps do similar leaks of info. | Jan 28 16:20 |
| iophk | M$ was getting into ad servers a while back. | Jan 28 16:20 |
| iophk | I thought that was about financial control but surveillance could have been part of it now that this comes to light. | Jan 28 16:21 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-and-microsofts-atlas-ad-server-2013-9 | Jan 28 16:25 |
| iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthof/2013/02/28/facebook-finally-pulls-trigger-buys-atlas-ad-server-from-microsoft/ | Jan 28 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Explanation Of Facebook And Microsoft's Atlas Ad Server - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/giq2y ] | Jan 28 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Facebook Finally Pulls Trigger, Buys Atlas Ad Server From Microsoft (*Updated With Comment) - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/giq2z ] | Jan 28 16:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428200711323938816 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428200916874170368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428201650114015232 | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BBC: "Google's Drummond calls for new #NSA reforms" - yeah, they all do, those corporates, for their own profits, convenience, not #privacy | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bruce Schneier: 'NSA and GCHQ have betrayed the trust of the internet' http://t.co/xclqHj4XTq #nsa #gchq #internet | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Bruce Schneier: 'NSA and GCHQ have betrayed the trust of the internet' | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Surprising it's reported as noteworthy that Google Maps is spying on users. It has been known since ~7 years ago. http://t.co/3dK2vcsuqO | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techradar.com | Not even Google Maps, Angry Birds are safe from NSA and GCHQ spying | News | TechRadar | Jan 28 16:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428201901780647936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428202221290147840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428202746081472513 | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Obama negotiates with his bosses (corporations) -- not people -- regarding #privacy http://t.co/lCjttIzKqD so epic. Funders decide. | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Tech giants reach White House deal on NSA surveillance of customer data | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Corporate press represents a "diversity" of views: the views of corporations as well as the views of corporations-funded politicians. | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #CCTV Glasses are normalising the idea of invading people's homes, bathrooms etc. with connected, always-on cameras. Spooky stuff. | Jan 28 16:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: what's the significant in today's context (FB/MSFT) | Jan 28 16:30 |
| iophk | the possibility for tracking | Jan 28 16:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | lo | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: Preston Gralla | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/23446/one-benefit-windows-phone-nsa-may-not-be-snooping-you | Jan 28 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.computerworld.com | One benefit of Windows Phone: The NSA may not be snooping on you | Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/giq6c ] | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | don't click | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the headline says it all | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Preston Gralla | Jan 28 16:41 |
| iophk | gralla again | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Use Windows... for PRIVACY :-) | Jan 28 16:41 |
| iophk | Probably uses weasel words to describe the situation. | Jan 28 16:42 |
| iophk | With FB taking in Atlas, they are getting more ties with M$ and with M$ "technology" | Jan 28 16:43 |
| iophk | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://atlassolutions.com | Jan 28 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | toolbar.netcraft.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/giq6v ] | Jan 28 16:43 |
| iophk | allows M$ to track site usage | Jan 28 16:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428204581328519168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428205509267972096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428205861568532480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206452260753408 | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Time (very pro-NSA) says the #us #government wants #nsa not to change, only to change perception http://t.co/N2nZN9VvB7 | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> swampland.time.com | U.S. Eyes Ways to Keep NSA Snooping Hidden | TIME.com | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA #Surveillance Divides the Republican Party http://t.co/VRxcWBX2ZV I hope it burns it, too | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | NSA Surveillance Divides the Republican Party - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #SAP comedy: it too pretends to be pro #privacy http://t.co/46qpvaueDz nice #PR ploy | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techradar.com | SAP and Atos team up for EU cloud standards to counter NSA threat | News | TechRadar | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA, GCHQ mapping “political alignment” of cellphone users http://t.co/Z5544iDfU2 McCarthyism much? | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | NSA, GCHQ mapping “political alignment” of cellphone users - World Socialist Web Site | Jan 28 16:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206566979158016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206724894703617 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206911482499074 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428207364123394048 | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The NSA, CIA, and the Promise of Industrial #Espionage http://t.co/ldEsGdYWdO #cia #nsa government-sanctioned crime | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.counterpunch.org | The NSA, CIA, and the Promise of Industrial Espionage » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "AT&T’s ambitions to expand in Europe have been put on ice, for now." http://t.co/X8Y4ZYz1BW good! | Jan 28 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> qz.com | The NSA may have done AT&T a favor by hurting its reputation in Europe – Quartz | Jan 28 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Cut Off the NSA's Juice http://t.co/nvvqtyhBeX if they break the law, which they do, why not cut them off? | Jan 28 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Article: Cut Off the NSA's Juice | OpEdNews | Jan 28 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: War and surveillance are a video games to GCHQ: Xbox Live, WoW, Angry Birds, etc. They use FPSs to recruit killers, too. Games as brainwash. | Jan 28 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | appearance http://t.co/tjffR4OlBs | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giq9d | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Automate Cloud Servers http://t.co/uDarvdUzBe | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giq9e | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance | Tux Machines | Jan 28 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps Automate Cloud Servers | Tux Machines | Jan 28 17:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428208788316098560 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209154386558976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209357860667392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209457018200064 | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Exceptionalism with assassination by flying robots http://t.co/GbeRP3fxUt http://t.co/0dfsi2OBem | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> sabahionline.com | US missile strike kills senior al-Shabaab leader in Somalia - Sabahionline.com | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> english.pravda.ru | Can other countries bomb USA like it bombs Somalia and many others? - English pravda.ru | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Should a robot decide when to kill? http://t.co/oppXd7RlTZ the Drone Defence: "I was only following algorithms. It came from a subroutine." | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theverge.com | Should a robot decide when to kill? | The Verge | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Drone strikes have crashed weddings, schools, funerals and rescuers. When will it end? http://t.co/r4xz3Z1LIk It will end by awareness | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.salon.com | The terrible human price of Obama’s drone war - Salon.com | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Peace activist raises awareness of drones http://t.co/LZIITOMUzK thank you, ma'am! | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.statesmanjournal.com | NO TITLE | Jan 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209796329009153 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428210755587276800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428211306689474561 | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US exit from Afghanistan concerns #CIA http://t.co/ZFD8VQU19j so it means it's good to exit. http://t.co/EqmMi2dLQt | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.timesca.com | Times Of Cental Asia - US exit from Afghanistan concerns CIA | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theintell.com | Our quagmire in Afghanistan - The Intelligencer: Bucks County | Op-Ed | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Feinstein thinks assassination by #drones is OK because it mostly kills Arabs (for now) http://t.co/vZLbqCqYD5 | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | Senator Feinstein discusses John Brennan, the CIA and drone strikes - YouTube | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Corporate press lets us select a team like a football team, but the very glorification of football cannot be challenged. Politics =~ sport. | Jan 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Morell is a moron http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/27/sochi-olympics-the-most-dangerous-games-ever-ex-ci/ | Jan 28 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Sochi Olympics the ‘most dangerous’ games ever: ex-CIA boss - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/giqa4 ] | Jan 28 17:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428212440086900736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428212917935558657 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213263193886720 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213659257819136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213958848557056 | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Daily Russophobia from Michael Moron (former# CIA boss) http://t.co/sVlh6qlyjo | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #CIA whistleblower Kiriakou’s letters from prison on #Firedoglake blog "dangerous," says Bureau of Prisons http://t.co/LBrrQ3BNpa | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> boingboing.net | NO TITLE | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US Department of "Justice" is covering up #torture http://t.co/23jyb8nXax no surprise here, but it's worth noting | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rapsinews.com | DOJ challenges journalist's claim to CIA interrogation report | Russian Legal Information Agency (RAPSI). | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Kiriakou exposed illegal torture; torturers promoted, #Kiriakou jailed. #Snowden exposed illegal spying; spies defended, Sno. fears for life | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On #CIA Prisons, Poland Sold Out for 'Pathetically Little' (Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland) http://t.co/7rz2btgwhm exporting #torture to #eu | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.worldmeets.us | On CIA Prisons, Poland Sold Out for 'Pathetically Little' (Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland) | Jan 28 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428216370644680704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428215184017350656 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428214917968461824 | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance http://t.co/420Ilev3jC #tizen #linux #samsung | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance - Muktware | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps Automate Cloud Servers http://t.co/P6Ej0D4s8i #linode #linux #software | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found ) | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? http://t.co/jl1CfEmfra #chromebook #google #gnu #linux | Jan 28 17:22 |
| iophk | http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/01/27/bureau-of-prisons-considers-cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakous-letters-from-loretto-to-be-dangerous/ | Jan 28 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | dissenter.firedoglake.com | Bureau of Prisons Considers CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou’s ‘Letters from Loretto’ on Firedoglake to Be Dangerous | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/giqf2 ] | Jan 28 17:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | posted already | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | see above | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | oh, nm | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I posted a link to a link | Jan 28 17:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I added both to my drafts | Jan 28 17:33 |
| iophk | the FDL goes into detail the BB link has little detail | Jan 28 17:33 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/isps-no-longer-have-to-block-the-pirate-bay-dutch-court-rules-140128/ | Jan 28 17:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/giqgf ] | Jan 28 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? | Jan 28 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eo7jqAzEY4 | Jan 28 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giqi9 | Jan 28 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? | Tux Machines | Jan 28 17:47 |
| *freedomrun has quit (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) | Jan 28 17:50 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567899 | Jan 28 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA #Surveillance Divides the Republican Party http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/nsa-surveillance-divides-the-republican-party/283351/ I hope it burns it, too | Jan 28 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | NSA Surveillance Divides the Republican Party - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/giqjo ] | Jan 28 17:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "This will probably offer a new political paradigm in which social repression is not legislated but politicians will still think they can run the economy. Not a solution but culturally notable for sure." | Jan 28 17:52 |
| Guest47366 | https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226115497250816 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/giqnn ] | Jan 28 18:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226281553940480 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/giqno ] | Jan 28 18:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226115497250816 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @glynmoody @schestowitz Wikipedian ideas of fun. I think I got them all, at least in main article space ... | Jan 28 18:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226281553940480 | Jan 28 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @glynmoody @schestowitz of course, half of them were what Heise laughingly called "permalinks". I THINK YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS | Jan 28 18:12 |
| Guest47366 | Publishers and writers are not the same | Jan 28 18:12 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428226629400150016 | Jan 28 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @davidgerard @schestowitz ha! | Jan 28 18:12 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a6w548L_700b.jpg | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | iophk: just been looking around Groklaw | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | for 10 minutes | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | It really is no longer maintained | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | not even behind the scenes | Jan 28 18:22 |
| Guest47366 | http://www.groklaw.net/index.php | Jan 28 18:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jan 28 18:22 |
| Guest47366 | It's like a fossilised site | Jan 28 18:22 |
| iophk | Right. It closed last year. | Jan 28 18:22 |
| Guest47366 | This time for real | Jan 28 18:22 |
| iophk | It probably would be safer to be put in some kind of archive mode. | Jan 28 18:22 |
| iophk | Yes. It's permanent. | Jan 28 18:22 |
| Guest47366 | In the past she spoke abouit preservation and orignisation | Jan 28 18:22 |
| *Guest47366 (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has left #techrights ("Konversation term") | Jan 28 18:23 | |
| *Guest47366 (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Jan 28 18:25 | |
| *Guest47366 is now known as schestowitz | Jan 28 18:25 | |
| iophk | The last addition to Groklaw was in Sep with a newspick | Jan 28 18:26 |
| schestowitz | FOSS news sites are growing smaller and fewer | Jan 28 18:28 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Like a post-hype thing | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Even Muktware is diverting its course | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Google, Internet, etc. | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Not so focused on FOSS anymore | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary games, tech news.. | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I guess operating ina vacuum for a movement is hard | Jan 28 18:30 |
| schestowitz | because on the Web, like anywhere, we need sources | Jan 28 18:30 |
| schestowitz | in the past journalists would reach out to people, execs, etc. | Jan 28 18:30 |
| iophk | twitter and facebook are not conducive to news, just chatter | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Now we can use sites that do this, but when they become scarce/few, then it;'s getting harder to follow leads | Jan 28 18:31 |
| iophk | and in general, investigative journalism is being killed | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | if it happens only in twitter, it's not "News" | Jan 28 18:31 |
| MinceR | in general, journalism is dying | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Like announcments from W3C | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | It becomes news when news sites write about it | Jan 28 18:32 |
| MinceR | announcements from w3c are like announcements from the north korean government | Jan 28 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Depends on how one defines journalism | Jan 28 18:32 |
| schestowitz | In the mind of the government, the purpose of journalism is to create calm among the population | Jan 28 18:32 |
| MinceR | in my mind, that's not journalism | Jan 28 18:32 |
| iophk | yes, but look at who / what is in the W3C now, that's the cause. | Jan 28 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I have 3 short articles in the pipeline.. | Jan 28 18:33 |
| schestowitz | The lady who exposed Samsung GPL violation mailed me about Tuxera doing the same | Jan 28 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Tuxera are assholes... and an embarrassment to Finland | Jan 28 18:34 |
| iophk | Yes, they are. | Jan 28 18:34 |
| MinceR | what's tuxera? | Jan 28 18:34 |
| iophk | M$ Patent resellers | Jan 28 18:34 |
| MinceR | and is it nearly as much of an embarrassment to finland as mokia? | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | Selling M$ patents via Finland | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | Mokia is dead. Most people have realized that. | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | Jolla has sold out several times. | Jan 28 18:35 |
| MinceR | alarmingly many people haven't realized it | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | M$ won't keep the name alive I think. They'll rebrand as M$ | Jan 28 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxC281KAUGZH9G | Jan 28 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The House Committing Un-American Activities. Remembering McCarthyism. [ http://ur1.ca/giqyj ] | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | I saw a Facebook memorial for Pete Seeger, quoting his testimony to the House Committee on Un-American Activities (the paranoid anti-communist committee). | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | "I love my country very dearly, and I greatly resent this implication that some of the places that I have sung and some of the people that I have known, and some of my opinions, whether they are religious or philosophical, or I might be a vegetarian, make me any less of an American." | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote the following: | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ahh, McCarthyism. They were so paranoid about Communism that they forced most of Hollywood, including Lucille Ball to testify, accusing them of being "Communist sympathizers". | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | The committee committed so many civil rights abuses that it got the nickname "The House Committing Un-American Activities". | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee | Jan 28 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | McCarthyism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/8vle3 ] | Jan 28 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | House Un-American Activities Committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/giqyl ] | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/28/3193301/climate-change-draining-great-lakes/ | Jan 28 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thinkprogress.org | The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World's Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/giqzw ] | Jan 28 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Much of it is draining out into the Atlantic because of human activity. | Jan 28 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | I was at Lake Michigan a couple of years ago. The shoreline has moved back by about 30-40 feet from the last time I was there, in the 90s. | Jan 28 19:14 |
| iophk | Many dunes are gone, too. | Jan 28 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC is planning to migrate this system to CentOS 7 with KDE when it is out... | Jan 28 19:20 | |
| DaemonFC | KDE 5 is approaching and I'm not sure about it. | Jan 28 19:20 |
| MinceR | XFCE is calling ;) | Jan 28 19:21 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430024,00.asp | Jan 28 19:24 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/angry-birds-rovio-respond-nsa-spying-revelations | Jan 28 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | Rovio Denies Providing User Data to Spy Agencies | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gir2k ] | Jan 28 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds firm calls for industry to respond to NSA spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gir2l ] | Jan 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have to provide it. | Jan 28 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | All they have to do is fail to protect it during transport. | Jan 28 19:36 |
| iophk | http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/pete-seeger-famed-folksong-crooner-writer-dead-94-article-1.1593663 | Jan 28 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nydailynews.com | Pete Seeger, famed folksong crooner and writer, dead at 94 - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/gird8 ] | Jan 28 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the iBeacon spyware was introduced in iOS 7, but the hardware to enable it has been in all iPhones and dormant since iPhone 4. | Jan 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | If you walk into a store and start getting alerts from that store on your iPhone, that's why. But it's just as likely to be used silently to track where you are in their store, accurate to within a couple of inches, so that they can profile how the customer shops in their stores and design layouts that get people to buy more stuff they don't need. | Jan 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | iBeacon meets the entire definition of spyware. It's something that the user wouldn't approve of, that leaks out personal information to untrusted third parties, and it can't be shut off or removed, even when you know about it. | Jan 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/01/ibeacon_shopkick_privacy_policies_for_location_tracking_apps_aren_t_clear.html?wpisrc=burger_bar | Jan 28 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.slate.com | iBeacon, Shopkick: Privacy policies for location-tracking apps aren’t clear enough. [ http://ur1.ca/gire2 ] | Jan 28 20:20 |
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| MinceR | any suggestions for a search engine that doesn't randomly discard letters from search terms when they feel like it? | Jan 28 21:37 |
| Sosumi | just read Dave Girard's mac pro review | Jan 28 22:10 |
| Sosumi | and I can't believe the guy is actually praising the thing | Jan 28 22:10 |
| Sosumi | crapple apologists everywhere | Jan 28 22:11 |
| Sosumi | only anandtech did it right, while sweeting it up a bit in order to not shut future review units sent in by crapple | Jan 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428231950013566976 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ukraine http://t.co/rawyhoPTOe | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428232723988488193 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules http://t.co/p8BbLT2IFs #censorship #europe | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> torrentfreak.com | ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules | TorrentFreak | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428233099714265088 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Every censor says he/she/it does so for noble reasons, including security (children, adults, etc.) but it ends up suppressing opposition | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428246840677781504 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Tuxera #GPL Violations Alleged http://t.co/ATDJHqMZPF #microsoft #swpats #patent #fsf #linux | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Tuxera GPL Violations Alleged | Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428253069961592835 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Anti-GNU/Linux Agenda at ZDNet (Part of CBS) Noted Again http://t.co/NXwtjnHnvN #zdnet #cbs #cnet #gnu #linux #microsoft | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Anti-GNU/Linux Agenda at ZDNet (Part of CBS) Noted Again | Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428253387415883776 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "ZDNet is a technology tabloid-like news sites whose writers have many conflicts of interest" http://t.co/xffqS65Bil #ZDNet | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428260684368199680 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Microsoft’s Role in Political and Industrial #Espionage Concealed http://t.co/bdo1fpmeEe for those who weren't sure http://t.co/fug0FsaCh0 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Role in Political and Industrial Espionage Concealed | Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428263327270440960 | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA Watch: GCHQ/NSA Gang Up Against Servers, Hide Violations, Face Blowback http://t.co/FsVzDRR5JK nsa #fbi #gchq #surveillance #police | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | NSA Watch: GCHQ/NSA Gang Up Against Servers, Hide Violations, Face Blowback | Techrights | Jan 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428266666024501248 | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: News Snapshot: The Decline of Civility http://t.co/79uhh23LBd #police #humanrights #civilrights #techrights #uk #ukraine #us #turkey | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | News Snapshot: The Decline of Civility | Techrights | Jan 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428266666024501248 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428279979055398912 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NetNeutrality is Dead in the West. Now What? http://t.co/TBwRTnXjiy #uk #us #internet #web #censorship | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Net Neutrality is Dead in the West. Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428282665565839361 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: DRM is Coming to the Web (as ‘Standard’). Now What? http://t.co/hTTPqfWM5v #drm #w3c #internet #web #eu #europe #dmca #copyright | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | DRM is Coming to the Web (as ‘Standard’). Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428291178896044032 | Jan 28 22:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Censorship Has Taken Over the Web. Now What? http://t.co/Ja4WUJO9xz #censorship #internet #www | Jan 28 22:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Censorship Has Taken Over the Web. Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 22:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/d6iXWbTaZG | Jan 28 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gis5s | Jan 28 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 28 23:04 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 28 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Jan 28 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2Q8sKEwaTx | Jan 28 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gisfm | Jan 28 23:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Tux Machines | Jan 28 23:55 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Why doesn't signing up for Medicaid count as being insured when a person was not insured before they qualified for Medicaid? | Jan 29 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't understand. It's not good insurance, but it's better than nothing in the sense that diving into a pool of electric eels is better than nothing when you really need to go for a swim. | Jan 29 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Truth is that the reimbursement rates are so low that most of the doctors that take it are really third rate or outright committing fraud to get more money out of the program. It would have been better to expand Medicare. | Jan 29 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/06/why-is-russia-so-homophobic/276817/ | Jan 29 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theatlantic.com | Why Is Russia So Homophobic? - Olga Khazan - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gisyg ] | Jan 29 01:29 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3DFXGC8HPO5IU | Jan 29 03:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Bernie Sanders debating Michelle Bachman on CNN. [ http://ur1.ca/gitg4 ] | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid anti-vax/anti-science Fundie witch that screams over everyone else vs. The guy that should be our next president. | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | *grabs the popcorn* | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | It would be a mistake for India to sign off on the TPP in its current form. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | It would be the medical and computing equivalent of bringing rabbits to Australia. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing it will do for them is bleed them dry since almost all of the patents are owned by foreigners. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it wouldn't be entirely unfair to call the TPP "patent colonization". | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | Rich countries have ganged up to bleed other countries dry. It's definitely a big enough mistake to allow software-related patents in, but drug patents actually kill people. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Scott's corruption, by itself, has cost Florida tax payers more than the combined fraud in all needs-based welfare, put together, several times over. | Jan 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost funny. | Jan 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Scott is so corrupt, that he even has Republicans saying "Holy shit, this guy is corrupt!". | Jan 29 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was kind of pissed when it was MLK day and I couldn't even get a haircut because that was closed too. | Jan 29 03:32 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3568032 | Jan 29 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearancehttp://www.muktware.com/2014/01/first-samsung-tizen-smartphone-makes-appearance/20118 | Jan 29 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/giud2 ] | Jan 29 07:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | You missed a space before http:// …"77777" | Jan 29 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'http:' ( status 0 @ http:// ) | Jan 29 07:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3566880 | Jan 29 07:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable http://www.linuxfederation.com/bleeding-edge-linux/ | Jan 29 07:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone [ http://ur1.ca/giqfz ] | Jan 29 07:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | \o/ Sabayon \o/"77" | Jan 29 07:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/428304398930808834 | Jan 29 07:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz Thanks 4 tweet! The CryptoParty is part of a week long Free Software festival http://t.co/N6N2lk3FeJ #BitCoin #freeyourandroid | Jan 29 07:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> freeasinfreedom.org.uk | Free Software Festival – Manchester | FSFE - MCR | Jan 29 07:12 |
| *nj3ma is now known as nj3ma_Zzz | Jan 29 07:13 | |
| *nj3ma_Zzz is now known as nj3ma | Jan 29 07:26 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3568317 | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Sawant takes $40,000 of salary, rest goes to “Solidarity Fund” | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_edd5afd2153276d90bbc.jpg | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blog.seattlepi.com | Sawant takes $40,000 of salary, rest goes to “Solidarity Fund” - Strange Bedfellows — Politics News [ http://ur1.ca/giuhm ] | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sounds good." | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567998 | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Daily Russophobia from Michael Moron (former# CIA boss) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/27/sochi-olympics-the-most-dangerous-games-ever-ex-ci/ | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.washingtontimes.com | Sochi Olympics the ‘most dangerous’ games ever: ex-CIA boss - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/giqa4 ] | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Mike Morrell! :D" | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567859 | Jan 29 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Obama negotiates with his bosses (corporations) -- not people -- regarding #privacy http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/27/tech-giants-white-house-deal-surveillance-customer-data so epic. Funders decide. | Jan 29 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Tech giants reach White House deal on NSA surveillance of customer data | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/giuhq ] | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Walking dead tech giants." | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | No more subsidies from CIA? | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "^^ agree, the NSA has killed US tech industry as we know it. Only free software companies might survive and they too will have NSA's stink on them." | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428427815969882113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428428394720931840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428428964017999872 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428430908497334273 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428431609378123776 | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World’s Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away http://t.co/Uo3FvS9fNb wars over water to come | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thinkprogress.org | The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World's Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away | ThinkProgress | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ad networks are selling us out to the #nsa http://t.co/P4HjckJBpd http://t.co/Cgdx5osxyY | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.pcmag.com | Rovio Denies Providing User Data to Spy Agencies | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds firm calls for industry to respond to NSA spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "This app follows you while you shop—and it needs a clearer privacy policy." http://t.co/P3Z8V9cm3u #privacy | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slate.com | iBeacon, Shopkick: Privacy policies for location-tracking apps aren’t clear enough. | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "media like to focus on the party lifestyles of the rich and glamorous" -Neelie on WEF http://t.co/inlgqeSxe7 she also attends Bilderberg | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ec.europa.eu | Ensuring Jobs for the Future - my blog from Davos - European Commission | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Linux is the only supported OS Intel has mentioned for either the original single-core Quark or the dual-core model" http://t.co/n8zYVBdrHw | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> linuxgizmos.com | Intel headgear to offer fast offline voice processing · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 29 07:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428432768201424896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428433567174385664 | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Upstart #SolidXK Distro Seeks First Business Customers http://t.co/ydRAWtUwgo "unofficial Linux Mint Debian Edition with KDE" | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | Upstart SolidXK Distro Seeks First Business Customers | Linux.com | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Android PCs and other Windows-alternative desktops are for real http://t.co/NT4EwdxsPo #android #linux | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | OwnCloud Documents to bring Open Document Format editing to private cloud | ZDNet | Jan 29 07:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428435301745590272 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428437164696031232 | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? http://t.co/Y2LRxCL6nC #mintlinux #gnu #linux | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? - FOSS Force | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Is Fry a closeted fan of Gates, or just a useful revisionist? http://t.co/sYCzkZCdlr that's how history is being warped.... | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: This time it's serious • The Register | Jan 29 08:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VA9DQXStEB | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupg | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This time it's serious http://t.co/4hs7nr7fmf | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giuph | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/J7KEi5DiFi | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupi | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: This time it's serious | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/U0PbAnsidE | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupj | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run Linux on a Chromebook | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mVcMFNovni | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupk | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | How to run Linux on a Chromebook | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428438684422393856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428439888829349888 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428440518457319424 | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking http://t.co/eXU7BpUn0f #dell #linux | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Even North #Korea Loves #Linux and Open Source http://t.co/1lrCS75YyG http://t.co/QJfjaf8cYE safe from NSA? | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thevarguy.com | Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | North Korea embraces Linux and Open Source | ITworld | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How to run Linux on a Chromebook http://t.co/ijGfkA3nUm #gnu #linux #chromebook | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | How to run Linux on a Chromebook | ITworld | Jan 29 08:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567818 | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR." (using sex in attempt to cause suicide) http://destee.com/index.php?threads/j-edgar-hoovers-letter-to-dr-martin-luther-king-jr.41917/ MLK died later | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> destee.com | J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. | Black People Meet | African Americans | Destee [ http://ur1.ca/giuqa ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "One of the assassins of Malcolm X, Talmadge Hayer, met with John Ali the night before Malcolm's assassination. John Ali was a high ranking member of the Nation of Islam and is now known to have been an FBI informant. He routinely fomented tension between Malcolm and other members of the NOI as well as between Malcolm and the leader of NOI, Elijah Muhammad." | Jan 29 08:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kanelsmak retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking http://t.co/J7KEi5DiFi' | Jan 29 08:18 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567815 | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/27/leaking_smartphone_apps_nsa_gchq/ http://news.sky.com/story/1202083/angry-birds-nsa-and-gchq-harvest-apps-data http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/27/nsa-gchq-smartphone-app-angry-birds-personal-data | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know - thanks to ANGRY BIRDS • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/giuqc ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.sky.com | Angry Birds: NSA And GCHQ Harvest Apps Data [ http://ur1.ca/giuqd ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds and 'leaky' phone apps targeted by NSA and GCHQ for user data | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gih28 ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "NSA cat is watching you, CodeHero." | Jan 29 08:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It sure is Will, it sure is." | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "LOL, a little birdie told them." | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They probably have the best porn too. I wonder what they spend their day doing :P" | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567864 | Jan 29 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CCTV Glasses are normalising the idea of invading people's homes, bathrooms etc. with connected, always-on cameras. Spooky stuff. | Jan 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Non free cameras are spooky." | Jan 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Esp. with wi-fi | Jan 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Oh yes, thanks, I still have it online. I also have a few incomplete opinions up, such as why people should not use Bing, and how Bruce Byfield is an ass. I've been having more fun with model airplanes lately than I have tangling with jerks. Sooner or later, I have to finish writing that Bing essay. | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | My IP address recently changed due to Mediacom failure. I try to keep that up to date on my diaspora, g+ and other pages. From there, you can navigate to where I'm trying to collect my opinion pages | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/rc_models/model_index.html | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | My RC Models [ http://ur1.ca/giur2 ] | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/people/0b0498e2475ba7a6 https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/about | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | Will Hill - Información - Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/giur5 ] | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ugh! opinion pages and I still have it online were supposed to lead you to the relevant pages. I wonder how I typoed that." | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/ | Jan 29 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | Index of /photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/ [ http://ur1.ca/giure ] | Jan 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/ | Jan 29 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ] | Jan 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428446238074101760 | Jan 29 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why You Should Not Use Duck Duck Go http://t.co/u5AHlxT62l worth repeating because many fools on the Web promote it | Jan 29 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> tinyurl.com | NO TITLE | Jan 29 08:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428446540630605824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428447027639619584 | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers http://t.co/1RaPtB6meS #linux #virtualization | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers | Linux.com | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report http://t.co/jXVmGyUpRI hopefully #intel will abandon this world. #crime | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report - Muktware | Jan 29 08:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report | Jan 29 08:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trippaers http://t.co/MemOK8XdVY | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Jan 29 08:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2655425 | Jan 29 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gartner.com | Samsung Retains Position as the Top Global Semiconductor Customer in 2013, According to Gartner [ http://ur1.ca/giuy1 ] | Jan 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428448307950923776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428449606159306752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428451978851926016 | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 http://t.co/YdjxibtJCq #pcbsd #unix | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #debian still debating init systems http://t.co/rimQr8rmdc | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Debian Init System Discussion Is Still Unsettled | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses https://t.co/23jpcb8bjH #holland #freedom | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses | Joinup | Jan 29 09:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428453074425098240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428458060810842113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428458459181625344 | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA industrial espionage http://t.co/XCobMPxzDl #machon on #espionage by #nsa | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | NSA industrial espionage - Using Our Intelligence | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: SUSE and Amazon, two companies that pay #microsoft for #linux have provide #nsa back doors, get together http://t.co/pNCjV44TBI | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ciol.com | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server now available on AWS GovCloud - CIOL | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? http://t.co/SHwY7ggapj #linux #arduino | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.drdobbs.com | Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Dr Dobb's | Jan 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428461304966565888 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428463140125556737 | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award http://t.co/bEuMiKme6N #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linux | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Links 29/1/2014: Games http://t.co/JuwX0OH23L Applications http://t.co/OUcX2BbegC Instructionals http://t.co/0zFVNt70NR | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Games | Techrights | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Applications | Techrights | Jan 29 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Instructionals | Techrights | Jan 29 09:45 |
| MinceR | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/29/1273288/-GOP-Congressman-Threatens-to-Kill-Report-After-SOTU | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: GOP Congressman Threatens to Kill Reporter After SOTU (Video) [ http://ur1.ca/giv63 ] | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solution Award http://t.co/o2RjIdA9Er | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/VQryKR0YdI | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/jg0uMWVm1P | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/ZxzfeAKrKy | Jan 29 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428464738524475392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465029013577728 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465399253188608 | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Security experts explain how the NSA and GCHQ may be harvesting data from smartphone apps like Angry Birds" http://t.co/4yViyxCdA4 | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.telegraph.co.uk | How 'leaky' smartphone apps are sending your data to the NSA - Telegraph | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "U.S. president also called for patent reform" http://t.co/Y6Rb4eOoFd based on what #NSA 'reform' means, it's PR/public consent seeking | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.techworld.com | Obama touches on NSA reform in State of the Union address - Techworld.com | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA privacy fears driving business back to UK hosting providers http://t.co/9oeUnoxEaH oh, back to #gchq arms. #uk #FogComputing | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.computing.co.uk | NSA privacy fears driving business back to UK hosting providers - 28 Jan 2014 - Computing News | Jan 29 09:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465948316946432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428466327561723904 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428466846636208128 | Jan 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The article from Computing mostly quotes Jones (whom I habitually speak to at the gym); but his firm uses Hyper-V (Trojan horse), Windows | Jan 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Tossing figures at the public without informing those whom the #nsa spies on is not "transparency", it's nonsense http://t.co/Q4HzkSbY0n | Jan 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | US Companies Allowed To Publish NSA Data Request Numbers | Jan 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA scandal: Germans hold out for ‘change they can believe in’ http://t.co/8l3WFpgWiD #germany should grant #snowden permanent asylum | Jan 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NSA scandal: Germans hold out for ‘change they can believe in’ — RT Op-Edge | Jan 29 09:59 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428476880938074113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428477042406227968 | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NYT improperly redacted latest NSA leak doc, revealing name of agent and a target http://t.co/aMRxiNcmRX #nsa #nytimes | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Article: NYT improperly redacted latest NSA leak doc, revealing name of agent and a target | OpEdNews | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: AT&T CEO: met European officials, NSA affair affecting business http://t.co/n4PI4BDchZ #europe #nsa | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> uk.reuters.com | AT&T CEO: met European officials, NSA affair affecting business | Reuters | Jan 29 10:38 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/court-orders-google-to-pay-1-36-of-adwords-revenue-for-infringing-patents/ | Jan 29 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Court: Google infringed patents, must pay 1.36 percent of AdWords revenue | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/givmd ] | Jan 29 10:52 |
| iophk | "Vringo also sued Microsoft over ads in its Bing search engine. Microsoft settled that case in May, agreeing to pay $1 million plus 5 percent of whatever Google ultimately pays." | Jan 29 10:53 |
| iophk | Fueling the attack on Google. | Jan 29 10:53 |
| gde33 | what is facinating about it is that google didn't update the advertisement, it was always the same old garbage. Now if they want to everything is patented. | Jan 29 10:59 |
| gde33 | it was very weird how they refused to update the cash cow | Jan 29 10:59 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite | Jan 29 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/givo5 ] | Jan 29 11:02 |
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| nj3ma2 | great news that | Jan 29 14:17 |
| nj3ma2 | gov.uk ditching m$ | Jan 29 14:17 |
| Sosumi | while they are at it, why not ditch the entire thing? | Jan 29 15:38 |
| iophk | It would be good if it happened, but they are still in the talking phase. | Jan 29 15:41 |
| iophk | They need to move quickly to avoid interference from M$ | Jan 29 15:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428524333284466688 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428522745601982464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428520358892044288 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428519647840043008 | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Exercising freedom https://t.co/uxvsUaPX6I use and defend your rights or lose them | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On our necks https://t.co/S0aGBP6JNj #consumerism #debt | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dodging espionage - new infographic https://t.co/NVL7XqeEHq the only way to go, safely | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Big win for Free software in the UK http://t.co/5yfr3KWUDS now they talk about it publicly | Jan 29 15:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428517939407749120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428516613160464384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428514179285540864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428513216751493120 | Jan 29 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: When papers did not report on readers https://t.co/kS9MuQhADr | Jan 29 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Facebook sends phone data to NSA and ads companies including Microsoft http://t.co/F2bUJantn9 | Jan 29 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Free surveillance https://t.co/BqyIcOi9is | Jan 29 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: A traitor to war http://t.co/Z5LcDQrod1 | Jan 29 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 29 15:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | nj3ma2: thanks for the news! | Jan 29 15:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | We'll probably put in a bid :-) | Jan 29 15:50 |
| nj3ma2 | :-) | Jan 29 15:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will do an article about it later | Jan 29 15:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | like Munich, this could set off other govs on the same route | Jan 29 15:52 |
| iophk | Once there are a few, there will be a rush. | Jan 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Good for people who deploy and support foss, MS will surely try to bribe politicians to change course, but I doubt the bribe budget is enough after the NSA scandasls | Jan 29 15:53 |
| iophk | Didn't Spain go FOSS also? Extremadura comes to mind, but they've dropped out of the media. | Jan 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Some bribves budget was spent tryint o make OOXML/MS OFFICE looK like "standard" | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | brb | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Also snowden got nominated | Jan 29 15:54 |
| iophk | Bribes may need to be bigger now but there are still those that push M$ for ideological reasons. | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Today we got 7 good pieces of news here (personal stuff) | Jan 29 15:54 |
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| Sosumi | I actually think every government should have an IT department capable of rolling out their infrastructure without outside interference | Jan 29 16:03 |
| Sosumi | *own | Jan 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428558452290781185 | Jan 29 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #uk government's promise to move to Free/libre software and #odf does not seem like a PR ploy this time around. Will cover it later. | Jan 29 16:03 |
| Sosumi | well, at least, only relying on hardware vendors | Jan 29 16:03 |
| Sosumi | but doing the software in house based on foss | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570646 | Jan 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why You Should Not Use Duck Duck Go http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/ worth repeating because many fools on the Web promote it | Jan 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> 173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ] | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sorry, but a lot of this still doesn't make sense to me. This concludes with "If you are going to use a US based search engine, it might as well be Google." which is absolutely insane if you actually read the article. All of the reasons stated for not using DDG are equally applicable to Google so why use them as an argument against DDG and to use Google? It may be unfair to gain users through exploiting NSA stories, but Google is | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | still USA-based and just as susceptible to FISC orders. It seems like a wash either way." | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Using Google is not wise, I don't agree with this conclusion | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | and properly tailoring their systems for the specific task they are performing | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If you are going to let yourself be spied on, you might as well get something out of it. DDG and many other search engines pollute their results with Bing, Microsoft's "Decision Engine" which is misleading on top of being spied on. Google's search results are still excellent. | Jan 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wish that I knew of an honest alternative that gave excellent results. That is changing through copyright/DMCA takedown censorship and other pressures, but at the time of writing, it was true. I wish that I knew if TOR or proxies would protect your privacy but I don't. These things were beyond the scope of my essay which was why you should not trust DDG. | Jan 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 16:05 |
| nj3ma2 | some attempts at building a federated, distributed search engine have been made | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | like you crawl your little corner of the web | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | I crawl mine | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | we join efforts | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | not much success so far | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | but worth the try | Jan 29 16:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/amd-reveals-its-first-arm-processor-8-core-opteron-a1100/ | Jan 29 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | AMD reveals its first ARM processor: 8-core Opteron A1100 | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gixcu ] | Jan 29 16:11 |
| iophk | nj3ma2: you mean like YaCy? | Jan 29 16:12 |
| Sosumi | good, but we need an actual alternative to intel | Jan 29 16:13 |
| iophk | Oracle could have run with Sparc instead of suffocating it. | Jan 29 16:13 |
| Sosumi | yes | Jan 29 16:13 |
| nj3ma2 | iophk: exactly | Jan 29 16:13 |
| Sosumi | and IBM could relaunch the intellistation | Jan 29 16:14 |
| iophk | IBM has put $1 billion into Power and has ditched x86 | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | no, IBM claims that | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the 1 billion figure | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's just marketing | Jan 29 16:14 |
| iophk | It was the number they cited. | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Big Blye tries hard to paint itself as a sysadmin's friend | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And this was in LinuxCon | Jan 29 16:15 |
| iophk | http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41926.wss | Jan 29 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www-03.ibm.com | IBM News room - 2013-09-17 IBM Commits $1 Billion to Fuel Linux and Open Source Innovation on Power Systems - United States [ http://ur1.ca/ghle2 ] | Jan 29 16:15 |
| iophk | The press release suggests the money will be spent on more than marketing. | Jan 29 16:16 |
| Sosumi | can't some pressure be put on them? | Jan 29 16:18 |
| Sosumi | or make them see that there is some demand for ppc based workstations? | Jan 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | bribes? PR? | Jan 29 16:19 |
| iophk | probably the former might work | Jan 29 16:19 |
| iophk | if big enough | Jan 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | i mean, what they spent the money on | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | well, if you bribe me with a new intellistation | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | I'll test it for free | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | it work on both ways :) | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | *works | Jan 29 16:20 |
| iophk | :) | Jan 29 16:20 |
| MinceR | the usual deal is 'you give me a new product and i write a 100% positive review about it' | Jan 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | so what you're offering is inferior :> | Jan 29 16:21 |
| Sosumi | only apple does that | Jan 29 16:22 |
| Sosumi | and they don't even need to employ trolls like M$ or EA does | Jan 29 16:23 |
| Sosumi | the cultists do it for them | Jan 29 16:23 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | [16:16] <iophk> The press release suggests the money will be spent on more than marketing. | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That;s not what I was saying | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The numbers are marketing, not the spendings | Jan 29 16:38 |
| iophk | ok | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wrote two articles about it at the time | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wrote many pieces criticising IBM too | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | last one was 2 days ago, re NSA collab | Jan 29 16:39 |
| iophk | I recall that one. | Jan 29 16:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They also spoke to me on the phone when I confronted them | Jan 29 16:41 |
| iophk | Did they say much of interest? | Jan 29 16:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yuppie Nuremberg defence | Jan 29 16:45 |
| iophk | Not much of a surprise. | Jan 29 16:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They are quite pretentious | Jan 29 16:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | A lot of the management is in NY and NJ area, so enough said... | Jan 29 16:47 |
| iophk | They were used to selling based on just the name for a very long time. | Jan 29 16:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, rightly perhaps | Jan 29 16:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think they're very expensive now | Jan 29 16:51 |
| iophk | They were expensive then too. | Jan 29 16:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and with outsourcing and all I'm not sure how good they and other multinationals are ATM | Jan 29 16:52 |
| iophk | Tech people used to be really upset with the, but at the same time management fawned over them. | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The bank I left replaced senior staff with kids | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and the service was shut | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *shit | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Today i spoke to an old lady, my mom's age, at a building society | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | we are moving our savings there | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | She was so much kinder than all those who are selected probably because they're paid less | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | IBM has done this for years | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cringley posted many good articles about it in 2012 | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think it is based on people feeding him info | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he really nailed it into IBM | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428570991166361601 | Jan 29 16:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Now it can be tracked by the #NSA easier. :D | Jan 29 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Space Hulk released for Linux | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XvRa1w21to | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixnz | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD tries to kickstart ARM-for-servers | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ecosystem http://t.co/wK3t0SoWoK | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo0 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Space Hulk released for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free software and ethical consumption | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AZyk1vMBCr | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | AMD tries to kickstart ARM-for-servers ecosystem | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo1 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Free software and ethical consumption | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Java-based malware driving DDoS botnet infects | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows, Mac, Linux devices | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/pyPTLuRqLL | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo2 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Java-based malware driving DDoS botnet infects Windows, Mac, Linux devices | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Our Voice-Over-IP Phone System | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Mb1Ha8Fd5b | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo3 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up Our Voice-Over-IP Phone System | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570727 | Jan 29 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/dutch-city-ede-spends-92-percent-less-its-peers-software-licenses #holland #freedom | Jan 29 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gixr1 ] | Jan 29 17:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So much for all that FUD from Microsoft ..."77" | Jan 29 17:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570869 | Jan 29 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Security experts explain how the NSA and GCHQ may be harvesting data from smartphone apps like Angry Birds" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/10601359/How-leaky-smartphone-apps-are-sending-your-data-to-the-NSA.html | Jan 29 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.telegraph.co.uk | How 'leaky' smartphone apps are sending your data to the NSA - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gixr3 ] | Jan 29 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Never liked that game anyway :P"77" | Jan 29 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | After finishing 3 of this series my wife and I got bored (Star Wars) | Jan 29 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | We finished Original, Seasons, and Rio. | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "autant que les lapins crétins. Parcontre j'aime Rayman" | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Je déteste Angry Brids! Je haie ses gros oiseaux dés le départ !!!" | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570869 | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | autant que les lapins crétins. Parcontre j'aime Rayman"7" | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3571551 | Jan 29 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook sends phone data to NSA and ads companies including Microsoft http://i.imgur.com/qzKhTQI.png | Jan 29 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Holy moly, look at all the stuff demanded. Send email without you knowing it. Turn on your microphone, change your volume, read your address book again, turn on and off other applications, cover other applications up, read and write to your call log. That's about as complete control of your cell phone as can be imagined. Microsoft really hates email and loves to spam people with it."77" | Jan 29 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3571581 | Jan 29 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Big win for Free software in the UK http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite now they talk about it publicly | Jan 29 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/givo5 ] | Jan 29 17:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I'm not impressed. Timid talk about using "open source" has been going on for about a decade. Didn't BECTA say this kind of thing but then buy Microsoft over and over? In the mean time, whole branches of government in France, Germany and Italy moved to free software and dumped Windoze completely."77" | Jan 29 17:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Some parts of UK gov are already moving to FOSS, they just don't talk about it publicly | Jan 29 17:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They learned from Bristol, Birmingham, Munich, etc. (retaliation, bribes, etc.) | Jan 29 17:17 |
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| iophk | Yeah, I forgot about BECTA. They talked about FOSS for a bit all the while appeasing M$ | Jan 29 17:50 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/becta-fails-the-open-source-test-3039256053/ | Jan 29 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Becta fails the open source test | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gixyo ] | Jan 29 17:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428584968025956352 | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @Morality124 @schestowitz apparently, but even so... | Jan 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428584738421350400 | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @glynmoody @schestowitz It's easy to live in a bubble it seems. | Jan 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | re https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428583663047962624 | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped - http://t.co/RP226F5klR wow, naive much? #privacy | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.cnet.com | Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped | Technically Incorrect - CNET News | Jan 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | CNET | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | CBS | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | NSA boosters | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | anyway, no point feeding it | Jan 29 17:53 |
| iophk | nah | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | besides the point of really criticising this appealling oligacch. CNET *CBS) still grooming him and NSA... | Jan 29 17:54 |
| iophk | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/tag/becta/ | Jan 29 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theopensourcerer.com | The Open Sourcerer » Becta [ http://ur1.ca/gixzc ] | Jan 29 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Like talking about Obama's swatting of a fly while on TV rather than swatting of thousands (humans) by drones | Jan 29 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Let's all dilute the news (CBS) by talking about the Brand ("Gates") and say something pointless about NSA... | Jan 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585470495162368 | Jan 29 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @glynmoody @schestowitz You think the NSA betrays him for the cooperation he has provided over the years? (Windows exploits et al.) | Jan 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585001748135936 | Jan 29 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: Rich bubble RT @glynmoody Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped - http://t.co/CpTpKFSxsa wow, naive much? #privacy @schestowitz | Jan 29 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585470495162368 | Jan 29 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has rhe back doors, that's old news. Everything to distact from Davod now.... | Jan 29 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has the back doors, that's old news. Everything to distract from Davos now.... | Jan 29 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428584738421350400 | Jan 29 18:00 |
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| iophk | The petitions are getting treated as seriously by the public as by the administration: | Jan 29 18:35 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 29 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 29 18:35 |
| iophk | contrast | Jan 29 18:36 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-net-neutrality-open-internet-and-our-economy/rJrLRtkw | Jan 29 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Protect Net Neutrality, the Open Internet and Our Economy | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyb6 ] | Jan 29 18:36 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-net-neutrality-directing-fcc-classify-internet-providers-common-carriers/5CWS1M4P | Jan 29 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Restore Net Neutrality By Directing the FCC to Classify Internet Providers as "Common Carriers". | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/ggira ] | Jan 29 18:37 |
| iophk | http://hub.coe.int/event-files/our-events/28-january-data-protection-day | Jan 29 19:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hub.coe.int | 28 January - Data Protection Day - Council of Europe [ http://ur1.ca/giyjk ] | Jan 29 19:17 |
| MinceR | 172245 < Sosumi> only apple does that | Jan 29 19:25 |
| MinceR | i've heard msft did it too | Jan 29 19:25 |
| MinceR | (especially when they tried to pit lipstick on vista) | Jan 29 19:25 |
| MinceR | s/pit/put/ | Jan 29 19:25 |
| Sosumi | talking of vista | Jan 29 19:29 |
| Sosumi | I wander on how easy it is to bypass the UAC | Jan 29 19:29 |
| MinceR | very easy, especially in vista7 | Jan 29 19:30 |
| MinceR | at least without any sp-s | Jan 29 19:30 |
| Sosumi | and how many users, stupidly, run windows with it disabled | Jan 29 19:30 |
| MinceR | you just name your executable so it's on m$'s list and ask for privileges | Jan 29 19:30 |
| MinceR | the list included things that would never need it, of course | Jan 29 19:30 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 29 19:33 |
| Sosumi | http://enenews.com/scientist-back-from-japan-ive-seen-data-showing-highest-radioactivity-levels-in-ocean-that-have-been-observed-recently-nhk-radioactive-waste-may-be-leaking-directly-from-the-buildings-not-j | Jan 29 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | enenews.com | Scientist back from Japan: I’ve seen data showing highest radioactivity levels in ocean that have been observed recently — NHK: Nuclear waste may be leaking “directly from buildings” not only going into groundwater via tunnels (VIDEOS) [ http://ur1.ca/giyqh ] | Jan 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/232-pat | Jan 29 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.turnerradionetwork.com | SURPRISE: You're Eating Fukushima Radiation and Bloody, Cancerous Tumors in Fish Contaminated By Radiation [ http://ur1.ca/giyqk ] | Jan 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | can't check the validaty of the images, but I wouldn't be eating anything from the pacific anyways | Jan 29 19:53 |
| Sosumi | *validity | Jan 29 19:53 |
| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/apple-results-q4-wow-this-was-far-worse-than-i-thought.html | Jan 29 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Apple Results Q4 - Wow this was far worse than I thought... [ http://ur1.ca/giyzk ] | Jan 29 20:29 |
| iophk | "Yes it is now a fact, we've seen 'peak iPhone' in its market share - and now the iPhone will adjust gradually towards the historically consistent market share that the Macintosh has held in the PC market which will be single digits by the end of this decade definitely." | Jan 29 20:29 |
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| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/01/28/the-mad-strip-club-orwell-search-habits | Jan 29 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.madmagazine.com | The MAD Strip Club — Orwell: Search Habits | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/giz82 ] | Jan 29 20:58 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2545465/Forget-global-warming-worry-MAGNETOSPHERE-Earths-magnetic-field-collapsing-affect-climate-wipe-power-grids.html | Jan 29 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | Forget global warming, worry about the Earth's MAGNETOSPHERE | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/giz9d ] | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | been hearing that since 05 | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | no one cared | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | and no one still cares | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | lets just buy solar panels and windfarms | Jan 29 21:05 |
| Sosumi | and earth is still a closed system, yeah, solar activity, cosmic streams have no impact on weather | Jan 29 21:06 |
| Sosumi | and I'm not joking | Jan 29 21:06 |
| Sosumi | they actually said the "system", earth, behaved like that | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Sosumi | back when I was in the 10th grade and had biology | Jan 29 21:08 |
| Sosumi | which was also in 2005 | Jan 29 21:08 |
| Sosumi | of course some of us said that was wrong | Jan 29 21:08 |
| Sosumi | but nvm, if it was like that on the book | Jan 29 21:09 |
| Sosumi | then it must be true | Jan 29 21:09 |
| MinceR | http://www.exitmundi.nl/poleshift.htm | Jan 29 21:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.exitmundi.nl | Oh When The Poles Come Marching In | Jan 29 21:11 |
| Sosumi | just don't go outside | Jan 29 21:14 |
| Sosumi | and stay in places that you already know that can't penetrated by EMF radiation | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | aka if you can't get a cell phone signal | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | then it is safe | Jan 29 21:15 |
| MinceR | "just two things of which you must beware: / don't drink the water and don't breathe the air." | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 29 21:16 |
| Sosumi | also, the sun might expand and engulf everything up to mars | Jan 29 21:18 |
| Sosumi | and we concerned about the poles | Jan 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | that will happen a tiny bit later | Jan 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 29 21:18 |
| Sosumi | and why shouldn't we also be concerned about the other poles | Jan 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | might as well say "who cares, entropy will be maxed out eventually. also, all particles will decay." | Jan 29 21:19 |
| MinceR | the West Pole and the East Pole? | Jan 29 21:19 |
| Sosumi | those are just a reference based to the south and north pole :P | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Sosumi | I meant the polish | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Sosumi | polish, poles, you know, basically the same thing | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Sosumi | http://www.totem-pole.net/images/totem_poles.jpg | Jan 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | well, not sure | Jan 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | i'm kinda worried about them | Jan 29 21:22 |
| Sosumi | if a totem pole falls and there's no one there to witness the fall | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | they seem to be fundifying themselves | Jan 29 21:22 |
| Sosumi | does it make a sound? | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | they've already banned abortion for religious reasons | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | some of their nazis seem to want to turn poland into hungary | Jan 29 21:22 |
| Sosumi | I'd be more concerned about their pension funds | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | well, if they follow the hungarian path then they won't have any pension funds | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | and hungary is kind of sounding more like "u hungy"? | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | oops | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | "u hungry" | Jan 29 21:23 |
| MinceR | no, it's sounding more like a future depopulated zone | Jan 29 21:24 |
| Sosumi | kind of just like poortugal | Jan 29 21:24 |
| Sosumi | with the desertification of the interior | Jan 29 21:24 |
| Sosumi | and an abysmal natality rate | Jan 29 21:25 |
| Sosumi | that was already abysmal in 2004 | Jan 29 21:25 |
| MinceR | that's the one thing i don't mind | Jan 29 21:25 |
| MinceR | there are too many people around here anyway | Jan 29 21:25 |
| Sosumi | has become much worse after the 2008 "financial blowjob" | Jan 29 21:26 |
| Sosumi | well, but if we were to rebuild this nation | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | we'd actually need some labor | Jan 29 21:27 |
| MinceR | people should realize that nations are irrelevant | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | and the current population numbers, besides being mostly unqualified | Jan 29 21:27 |
| MinceR | or they could just kill each other over belonging to different "nations", that's fine too | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | they're not enough | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | yes, but even then we still need to manage this rectangle | Jan 29 21:28 |
| Sosumi | and you know, back in the days | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | we left the rectangle because it wasn't enough | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | at the present time | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | the only way to make the rectangle profitable is to invest in high tech stuff and have it done here | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | but meanwhile they are cutting scholarships and investment in education | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | in order to appease speculators in the city of london and in wall st | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | instead of doing what I've suggested | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | and probably countless of others | Jan 29 21:31 |
| MinceR | still better than turning education into religious brainwashing in order to appease nazis | Jan 29 21:31 |
| Sosumi | including that guy Tsipras in greece | Jan 29 21:31 |
| Sosumi | ban derivatives and freeze the debt | Jan 29 21:31 |
| Sosumi | for as long as the crisis continues | Jan 29 21:32 |
| Sosumi | and have the ecb churn tranches of money for infrastructure building | Jan 29 21:32 |
| Sosumi | like high speed rails interconnecting all europe | Jan 29 21:32 |
| Sosumi | we kind of need a couple more dams in order to coupe with the dry seasons | Jan 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | specially up the north | Jan 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | and we actually need a new plan for the dams | Jan 29 21:34 |
| Sosumi | since the current one was conceived prior to 1975 | Jan 29 21:34 |
| Sosumi | and kind of hasn't received any update | Jan 29 21:35 |
| Sosumi | 1968 to be precise | Jan 29 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/9Vg4I650EY | Jan 29 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gizkd | Jan 29 21:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:51 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx98OTM0WM9LOK | Jan 29 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Chicago is being robbed by the company that it gave the privatization contract to run its parking meters. [ http://ur1.ca/gizxn ] | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://truth-out.org/news/item/21466-costs-of-privatization-hidden-in-plain-sight | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The company that Chicago gave its parking meters to is suing them, claiming that the state needs to pay them money to compensate it for road repairs, which "cost the company money in lost parking meter fees". | Jan 29 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | truth-out.org | Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight [ http://ur1.ca/gizxt ] | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana is also being robbed by the company that Mitch Daniels sold the toll roads to. He gave them a 75 year contract in 2006, all of the money is gone, and the company is claiming that Indiana owes it money because it is getting less toll road fees than it thought it would when it signed the contract. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Even without that, they would make more money in the 75 years than they paid for the contract. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Privatization is often proposed by right-wing politicians who claim that it will save money. The companies that get the contracts almost never run things cheaper than the state was. The first thing that the toll road company did in Indiana was jack up the toll and stop maintaining the roads. They're full of potholes now, and the fee for driving on them has doubled. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's Republicans passed a law that gives them a pass to drive on the toll road for free. Many Indiana House and Senate Democrats refused to use the pass, and kept paying the toll. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | err ,city | Jan 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3LFQOMZNLVGFE | Jan 29 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Obama's high school pot dealer who he thanked for the 'good times' [ http://ur1.ca/gizyh ] | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The majority of adults in the United States admit to having smoked pot at least once, and I'm sure the number rises even higher when you account for the ones that have and are lying about it. | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Recreational marijuana usage is not a scandal. Medicinal use is even less controversial. Please go back to the 1950s where the other right wing social beliefs are waiting for you. | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The laws just need to catch up. The majority of American adults could have theoretically been imprisoned at some point under just this one law. | Jan 29 22:55 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Chik Fil Meh doles out free diabetes, obesity, heart disease, and colorectal cancer to stranded motorists. Stranded by *snort* three inches of *BWAHAHAHAAAAA* three inches of snow... *BAHAHAHAAAA!!!!* Sorry. | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | A snowstorm in the South is about as rare as a living brain cell in a room full of conservative Christians.... | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | How the hell do you get stuck in three inches of snow? | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Are you driving a Geo Metro? | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | A little bit of snow, and these southern fried morons are having pile ups and declaring emergencies and shutting down the roads. They need to drive in Indiana a couple of times. The roads don't get closed here until they actually become impassable. A couple of weeks ago, I was driving down a state highway in a white out blizzard where I could occasionally figure out what lane I was in, and I managed to make it about 40 miles each way without any | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | real trouble. | Jan 29 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Office out of office across the UK | Jan 29 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | government? http://t.co/7xQXERhyib | Jan 29 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj060 | Jan 29 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Office out of office across the UK government? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 23:37 |
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| DaemonFC | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 29 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 29 23:46 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 30 00:03 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 30 00:15 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be fine with Obama if he still did smoke pot. | Jan 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | There are thousands of things that the FDA says are Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS, HEHEHE), that are not as safe as pot. | Jan 30 00:56 |
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| DaemonFC | I got my 28 cent refund check from the BMV this morning. | Jan 30 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I just deposited it with my phone. :P | Jan 30 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/naturopathic-physicians-and-affordable-care-act | Jan 30 01:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Naturopathic Physicians and the Affordable Care Act | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/gj0sr ] | Jan 30 01:28 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | Jan 30 01:28 | |
| DaemonFC | Nothing in the ACA requires private insurers to cover "alternative medicine", and most of them don't cover it because they know it is worthless. | Jan 30 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I've never seen a health insurance policy that did cover it, except maybe some limited chiropractic coverage for lower back pain. | Jan 30 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Which is about the only thing that chiropractors are good for. | Jan 30 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines As free software users, we need to speak out | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | against the TPP http://t.co/FHlFdyxPSA | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj0u2 | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | As free software users, we need to speak out against the TPP | Tux Machines | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $3 billion: Confirmed http://t.co/KA6fDbCAlM | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj0u3 | Jan 30 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I have a chiropractor that I see for lower back pain from time to time. | Jan 30 01:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $3 billion: Confirmed | Tux Machines | Jan 30 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | He was included in an insurance plan that I had when I worked at a warehouse. | Jan 30 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | It covered two visits per month for free, so I took them. | Jan 30 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4NzA | Jan 30 01:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Future Of Fedora Spins Is Questioned With Fedora.Next [ http://ur1.ca/gj0ug ] | Jan 30 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why having additional spins is controversial. | Jan 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're benign to anyone that wants a different spin. | Jan 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4Njk | Jan 30 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Radeon DRM Gets A Few More Fixes For Linux 3.14 [ http://ur1.ca/gj0ur ] | Jan 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | The kernel-side radeon support for the 6000 series and older is basically complete as of Linux 3.13. | Jan 30 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Aside from some bug fixes, there's not much more to be done in the kernel. | Jan 30 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | New versions of Mesa are the big performance wins now. | Jan 30 01:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android PCs finally destroy Windows on the | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop? http://t.co/f9RGqEoGfa | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b2 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13 Gets Its First Update | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jZYV9npUgt | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b3 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Homerun 1.2.0 http://t.co/MhJsDno4jg | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b4 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Will Android PCs finally destroy Windows on the desktop? | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iaUovB6JeD | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13 Gets Its First Update | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b5 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Homerun 1.2.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Firefox Add-ons for Social Media Junkies | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XfOFdgzTKH | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b6 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Best Firefox Add-ons for Social Media Junkies | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I got my 28 cent refund check from the Indiana BMV settlement. | Jan 30 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | Now if I could just find a time machine somewhere, I could go back to 1990 and get myself a Pepsi out of the vending machine. | Jan 30 06:34 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574500 | Jan 30 09:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Latest FOSS FUD Revolves Around Fakes and Bogus Arguments http://techrights.org/2014/01/29/foss-discredited-over-security/ | Jan 30 09:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | The Latest FOSS FUD Revolves Around Fakes and Bogus Arguments | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3fz ] | Jan 30 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's amazing how Microsoft recycles this trash for decades. They pour it on until people believe it. Fewer people believe it these days, I hope." | Jan 30 09:00 |
| iophk | It's also a distraction for the poor way that Windows manages software installation | Jan 30 09:00 |
| iophk | *from | Jan 30 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | today is the last day we can migrare tux machines | Jan 30 09:08 |
| iophk | can it be done? | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I might have to extend no-ip | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | 25 dollars | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | the VM is not ready yet... | Jan 30 09:09 |
| iophk | oh | Jan 30 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | yesterday tux machines got record traffic for ther month | Jan 30 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | 107k hits for the day | Jan 30 09:10 |
| iophk | nice | Jan 30 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | 96k pages | Jan 30 09:10 |
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| iophk | Approximately how many visitors from that? | Jan 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | 14k | Jan 30 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Review, Ubuntu Happenings, and Zorin | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS http://t.co/YN7KXuUMhX | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3mv | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Red Hat's Roger Egan Joined Docker | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/reePxBehHn | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Review, Ubuntu Happenings, and Zorin OS | Tux Machines | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3mx | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why Red Hat's Roger Egan Joined Docker | Tux Machines | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Like Arduino? Miniaturize your project with | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TinyCircuits http://t.co/YHwy9XrHfD | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3my | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Like Arduino? Miniaturize your project with TinyCircuits | Tux Machines | Jan 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573447 | Jan 30 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Heavily Taxed by #PatentTroll (Not a Real Company) That #Microsoft Gave Patents to http://techrights.org/2014/01/29/vringo-and-google/ #swpats #vringo | Jan 30 09:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "The US judicial and regulatory system is a bad joke. 1.36% of AdWord revenue is huge. That's on top of the endless Android lawsuits and regulatory scrutiny that Microsoft is miraculously able to push Google's way. I'm so ashamed of my government." | Jan 30 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Google Heavily Taxed by Patent Troll (Not a Real Company) That Microsoft Gave Patents to | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3np ] | Jan 30 09:28 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574576 | Jan 30 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Serious petitions like https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-net-neutrality-open-internet-and-our-economy/rJrLRtkw get discredited by nonsense and celebs https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 30 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Protect Net Neutrality, the Open Internet and Our Economy | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyb6 ] | Jan 30 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "This whole site is a joke. They keep changing the rules to ensure nothing productive gets done." | Jan 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz__ | ""Serious petitions"? Please." | Jan 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz__ | "^lol'd" | Jan 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz__ | I agree, they dodge the people and their requests by upping limits. The whole thing is a farce like a ballot box, designed only to give the illusion that the government is serving people, not corporations and oligarchs | Jan 30 09:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574358 | Jan 30 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debunking charades http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/21529-a-silent-coup-jeremy-scahill-bob-herbert-on-corporate-military-interests-shaping-obamas-sotu | Jan 30 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | "A Silent Coup": Jeremy Scahill & Bob Herbert on Corporate, Military Interests Shaping Obama's SOTU [ http://ur1.ca/gj3p9 ] | Jan 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "I saw them on Democracy Now! this morning and their analysis of the President's SOTU was spot on." | Jan 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573204 | Jan 30 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Copyright Law Still All About #Protectionism , Needs Revision | Jan 30 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Copyright Law Still All About Protectionism, Needs Revision | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3pc ] | Jan 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "It has always been about protectionism." | Jan 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3572522 | Jan 30 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "If he wins, it will only contribute to the hollywoodization of the resistance... I had enough of prizes, heros, bad guys, good guys, donzels in distress and all that bullshit! The only thing I see is structures of power creating entertainment. I hope, if the time comes, that he deny the award... but i guess thats asking too much..." | Jan 30 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when a Chinese got a political Nobel peace prize? Well, the US is having a "China moment" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-29/snowden-nominated-by-norwegian-lawmakers-for-nobel-peace-prize.html | Jan 30 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.bloomberg.com | Snowden Gets Nobel Nomination as U.S. Pursues Trial - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/gj3pl ] | Jan 30 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: http://yle.fi/uutiset/crisis-hit_southern_europeans_try_their_luck_in_finland/6632002 | Jan 30 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yle.fi | Crisis-hit southern Europeans try their luck in Finland | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/gj3r8 ] | Jan 30 09:46 |
| iophk | Yeah, there are growing communities. | Jan 30 09:46 |
| iophk | Also in Sweden last year they took in around 50,000 of just refugees. That's a whole town | Jan 30 09:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574557 | Jan 30 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight http://truth-out.org/news/item/21466-costs-of-privatization-hidden-in-plain-sight | Jan 30 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight [ http://ur1.ca/gizxt ] | Jan 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Most of the cases of privatization that I have seen go very badly are concerning services for which there is not a reasonable way to opt out or to have competition. #Monopolies of any form breed #corruption, #exploitation, and tend to be #facist. In this particular instance, the deal should have been rejected entirely on the grounds that it could not be evaluated in the time provided. 686 pages of complex, dense legalese is | Jan 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | impossible to process in two days." | Jan 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574236 | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Manufactured Nuclear Crisis http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/01/manufactured-crisis/ they also tried to manufacture gas attack crisis in #syria as they did in #iraq & #korea | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ipsnews.net | A Manufactured Nuclear Crisis - Inter Press Service [ http://ur1.ca/gj3ux ] | Jan 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "Meanwhile Fukushima, a real nuclear crisis, can't get arrested." | Jan 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573997 | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: James Clapper calls for Snowden and 'accomplices' to return #NSA documents http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/james-clapper-condemns-snowden-senate-testimony he doesn't know how digital stuff works? | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | James Clapper calls for Snowden and 'accomplices' to return NSA documents | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gj3v9 ] | Jan 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "I call for Clapper to return the US Senate to a place of honesty (good luck) and to return the US to a country that follows it's own constitution (even better luck...)"" | Jan 30 09:55 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/30/arrest-of-charlie-shrem-shows-dangerously-repressive-u-s-police-system/ | Jan 30 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | Harassment Arrest Of Charlie Shrem Shows Dangerously Repressive U.S. Police System - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gj3yz ] | Jan 30 10:01 |
| iophk | bit of a misinterpretation of the GPL. It requires that the changes (freedom) be paid forward, not what this license does: | Jan 30 10:07 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/computer-hardware/open-compute-pushes-gpl-license-open-source-hardware-235205 | Jan 30 10:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Open Compute pushes GPL-like license for 'open source hardware' | Computer hardware - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj42t ] | Jan 30 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Standards and Open Source make a great | Jan 30 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pairing http://t.co/9Zwx74ISuI | Jan 30 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj45e | Jan 30 10:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open Standards and Open Source make a great pairing | Tux Machines | Jan 30 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | This video has been banned in the UK | Jan 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84T2i5PCMxw | Jan 30 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Nice Way Code Think Horse - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gj465 ] | Jan 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | When NSA buddy Microsoft accuses Google of being poor on privacy on British broadcast, then that's OK with ASA... | Jan 30 10:20 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/30/uk_picks_open_document_format_for_all_government_files/ | Jan 30 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | UK picks Open Document Format for all government files • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gj4hk ] | Jan 30 11:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.18.3 Release Allows the Use of | Jan 30 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Elementary 1.9 or Later http://t.co/MRIslWO4xz | Jan 30 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj4wa | Jan 30 12:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Enlightenment 0.18.3 Release Allows the Use of Elementary 1.9 or Later | Tux Machines | Jan 30 12:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | iophk: any followup on that? | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Other than the announcment? | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | i have another post coming, but no news really since yesterday | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | A bunch of us now work on getting Tuxera in the mud | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | On 01/29/2014 at 2:28 PM, "Bradley M. Kuhn" <compliance@sfconservancy.org> wrote: | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | rxrz, | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I appreciate that you have written to us rather than attempting to take | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | action yourself. While I know Snowden-like activities are popular these | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | days, I assure you that they only make it more difficult for Conservancy | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | to enforce the GPL. Specifically, the Samsung matter was more difficult | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and more time consuming for Conservancy to deal with because of the | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | "code leaks". Conservancy has very limited resources for GPL | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | enforcement, so I appreciate that you aren't making our job harder here | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | by contacting us early and discussing it before taking action. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Meanwhile, I've read the materials that you shared with us. However, as | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | it stands, we cannot take action specifically because: | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | rxrz@hush.ai wrote at 01:23 (EST): | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > Right now the original blob files have been removed from github by | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > repository's maintainer | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | ... I can't witness any active distribution of this file at this time. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't being distributed, but I need to | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | see it being distributed actively to take action here. More details | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | below: | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | If you could tell us what specific product this software appears in, we | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | can research further. The ideal would be to show us a publicly | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distributed firmware available online from the company who incorporated | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | this software in their product. Since that sometimes doesn't occur, the | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | next best thing is to give us the exact model of a product that you know | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | for sure contains this software. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Please note that a "cease and desist" of a violation is a reasonable | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | response to resolve a GPL violation (even though it's not our preferred | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | solution). If Tuxera (and its downstreams) are no longer distributing | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | infringing software, the GPL violation is likely "resolved" -- at least | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | to a point whereby it'd be very difficult for us to take immediate | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | action (unless they violate the license again). | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Brad, meanwhile, if you have a direct interest in joining Conservancy's | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers, I can talk with you about | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | that. Your direct involvement would make it easier for us to take | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | action on this matter. However, we can admittedly take action, since | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | your work is part of a larger GPL'd whole work, which is copyrighted by | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | many people some of whom are already in the GPL Compliance Project for | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Linux Developers. Nevertheless, contact me on a separate thread if you | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | would like to join our compliance coalition. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > I would like to request an official statement from a representative of | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > Tuxera concerning this particular driver and have the complete source | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > code for this product, since it has been distributed under GPL license | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > and is based on the driver taken from Linux kernel tree. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't recommend that at this point. I don't yet see a clear chain of | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distribution that puts the binary in your hands completely | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | legitimately without any questions. The right next step is to figure | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | out what product this binary driver appeared in, and examine the | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | physical product and/or a firmware legitimately obtained from a | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | distributor to verify the violation. | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | I look forward to your next correspondence. | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | -- | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Bradley M. Kuhn, Executive Director, Software Freedom Conservancy | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | (home of BusyBox, Samba, and the GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers) | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575710 | Jan 30 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debian policy of no proprietary drivers is comprising convenience for freedom http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.762.8 been there before | Jan 30 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.goodbyemicrosoft.net | Debian 7: In Search of the Lost Driver - Goodbye, Microsoft® [ http://ur1.ca/gj4y1 ] | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "This, incidentally, is yet another example of why the most important tool for a Linux installation is a second computer, connected to the Internet. OR the most important tool for a GNU/Linux DEBIAN installation is a little search of supported drivers before install the new version/distro ... In the same time, Debian is known for this kind of "problem" which is not in fact if you know the Debian's policy. This is the same with | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Triskel, indeed. I could be more surprised if this kind of problem appeared with Ubuntu, Mint, Or Suse which include lot of non-free/proprietary drivers." | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't say that for you Roy, only for the author" | Jan 30 12:43 |
| iophk | schestowitz__: no followup yet on the ODF announcement, just that the Reg picked it up after the others | Jan 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of articles yesterday | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | latest on tuxera | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Hello, Bradley. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you, I appreciate the work you're doing as well. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The case with Samsung has proven to me that we cannot trust even to the largest corporations when it comes to | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | being compliant and respecting the effort of many developers who believe in and contribute to FOSS. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I hope you understand that many people including myself felt that it was a very serious violation of trust, no | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | matter under which conditions Samsung had to hide the original Linux code from us. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Not being public is a hard task for me, and I would like to tell you that I have my trust in you to contribute effort for handling this case. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | The file is still available via that repo's history and in my forked repo right here: | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | https://github.com/rxrz/asuswrt-merlin/tree/master/release/src/router/tuxera/broadcom/hfsplus/kernel-module | Jan 30 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | github.com | asuswrt-merlin/release/src/router/tuxera/broadcom/hfsplus/kernel-module at master · rxrz/asuswrt-merlin · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/giucz ] | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Doesn't it matter that ASUS had this file in their development bundle? Tuxera had "HFS+ Embedded" available | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | since June '11 (https://web.archive.org/web/20110401000000*/http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-hfs-embedded) and it makes it more that 2 years from today's date. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | The driver's version which came out of Asus' tar is dated with Nov of '13, which makes it still about 2 years as this product has been available. I would say it's a small chance Tuxera "forgot" to put the proper license in there, an even smaller chance they haven't sold a single copy of this product in 3 years. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | web.archive.org | Internet Archive Wayback Machine [ http://ur1.ca/gj56w ] | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | To me it's a no-brainer: Tuxera's been selling this driver for years now, it's based on Brad Boyer's source code, they got caught (thanks to Asus). We've got a proof, that they've been selling a product which is a 90% result of hard work of people from our community. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I believe It is our common job to keep things right and fair. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I do feel for Samsung being caught between two trains of M$'s patents and Linux' free license. But the fact that they've been selling a product based on code from Linux tree, for years, and not returning any money they literally stole from honest developers who contributed their free time to support FOSS and GPL, makes me feel quite bad. They didn't have to do that, but nobody forced them to use the code from the vfat driver as a | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | base. In the end they didn't pay any fines, they ended up being heroes by open-sourcing the driver. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I am 100% sure it is exactly the same case this time, except there were no patents involved. It never will be neither fair in case with exFat nor in case with HFS+ even if they give up the source to the product they most likely originally stole from Brad. None of us have money for a lawyer to sue violators of GPL and companies seem to be happy to abuse this fact. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | They won't pay anybody for stealing the product, even though they made a fortune out of it. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I have a small question: | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Let's imagine for a second they haven't used Brad's GPL'd source as a base for their product, but still sold an HFS+ driver written from scratch under GPL (even a single copy)... | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | can we require the source code legally from them? | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Speaking of Snowden's contribution to society, honestly, I lost the rest of my trust in proprietary software companies. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I am not surprised at all by Tuxera stealing code and selling as their own, I've been more surprised by Samsung being involved in the theft of vfat Linux code. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | My goal is to get the source to the complete Linux HFS+ driver. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I will get the proof of them selling this driver as a product in the past. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | -rxrz | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | P.S. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Have a small question, off the record: why do companies get sued for let's say, using software they didn't purchase in their products, but when it comes down to selling products based on free software, in violation to GPL, companies don't get in trouble? It just feels wrong to me that we can only count on them to just release the source once they get caught and not pay any money they stole by using readily available open software? If | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | companies do not respect GPL and just do whatever they want then what's the point of having licenses at all? | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Jan 30 13:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://www.infoworld.com/d/security/filezilla-warns-of-large-malware-campaign-235227 http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/unauthorized-versions-filezilla-steal-data-circulation/ | Jan 30 14:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | FileZilla warns of large malware campaign | Security - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj5ke ] | Jan 30 14:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.digitaltrends.com | File Stealing Version of FileZilla is Making Its Way Around Internet | Digital Trends [ http://ur1.ca/gj5kf ] | Jan 30 14:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Linux dominates the mobile market | Jan 30 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JTwO9EmiiX | Jan 30 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj5vx | Jan 30 15:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux dominates the mobile market | Tux Machines | Jan 30 15:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2 Brings OpenCL Calc, OOXML | Jan 30 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements http://t.co/Z2dT2xZOY2 | Jan 30 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj6lj | Jan 30 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.2 Brings OpenCL Calc, OOXML Improvements | Tux Machines | Jan 30 17:03 |
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| iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2093100/godaddy-owns-up-to-role-in-twitter-account-hijacking-incident.html | Jan 30 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | GoDaddy owns up to role in epic Twitter account hijacking | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj6qj ] | Jan 30 17:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Keep Tabs on Income and Expenses with My | Jan 30 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expenses for Android http://t.co/unjEntDwuu | Jan 30 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj6uj | Jan 30 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Keep Tabs on Income and Expenses with My Expenses for Android | Tux Machines | Jan 30 17:44 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/att-develops-credits-system-to-limit-file-sharing-bandwidth-140129/ | Jan 30 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | AT&T Develops Credits System to Limit File-Sharing Bandwidth | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gj6xl ] | Jan 30 17:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/ukrainian-police-use-cellphones-to-track-protestors-court-order-shows/ | Jan 30 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Ukrainian police use cellphones to track protestors, court order shows | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gj6xu ] | Jan 30 18:01 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/nn81/status/428958293130616832 | Jan 30 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nn81: The collection @schestowitz articles @black_duck_sw : http://t.co/TcpBG0xK0O True or Fiction? | Jan 30 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights | Jan 30 18:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575935 | Jan 30 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Companies that use terms like "community manager" reveal their real attitude towards volunteers. Say "coordinator" or "leader", not manager | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Very true. Most of the community managers I've dealt with were less interested in listening and understanding than they were with having me swallow a set of talking points. They waste everyone's time. | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | After some thought, I like the term community representative and think that it's a legitimate thing to do. Communications manager, even that sounds like perception management. I agree with other people here that "leader" and "coordinator" also imply control or manipulation. Representative is an honest term and implies two way communication representing the company to the community and the community to the company. That's a valid and | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | useful specialization and division of labor. People busy coding need others who are good at listening to make sure everyone understands each other | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575935 | Jan 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "analogical to richard stallman's quote "open source is what the industry can accept but free is where they need to end up"" | Jan 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575522 | Jan 30 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## This video has been banned in the UK | Jan 30 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | Nice Way Code Think Horse - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gj465 ] | Jan 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz__ | "Awesome! Here they shouldn't see deer..., a fellow cyclist found traps in the nearby forest where we cycle. And I don't think they were for bugs. :(" | Jan 30 19:34 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jan 30 19:41 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428987417475829761 | Jan 30 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Hard to say; "improved OOXML support" seems to be common phrase in LO changelogs. Almost like it's maintenance not enhancement | Jan 30 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428990178984591360 | Jan 30 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Microsoft Offers $100 Credit For People Who Trade In PS3 For Xbox One http://t.co/70Ucdyw9v2 via @consumerist | Jan 30 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> consumerist.com | Microsoft Offers $100 Credit For People Who Trade In PS3 For Xbox One – Consumerist | Jan 30 21:00 |
| iophk | gtg | Jan 30 21:04 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3576348 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: "Samsung shipped 320 million smart phones in 2013" http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/samsung-makes-eu-push-via-60-carphone-warehouse-samsung-exclusive-stores/20171 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung makes EU push via 60 Carphone Warehouse-Samsung exclusive stores | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gj8ah ] | Jan 30 21:15 |
| schestowitz__ | "The Belgian phone companies Belgacom and Base will not be very happy when they get to know that. What other brands of smart phones will be left over for them to sell? Mobistar already has the exclusive deal to sell iPhones." | Jan 30 21:15 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-speeches.html | Jan 30 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fsf.org | Where in the world is Richard Stallman? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/kdjv ] | Jan 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 10, 2014 01:00 PM Helsinki, Finland Event "The Path to Digital Freedom" | Jan 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 11, 2014 01:00 PM Helsinki, Finland Event Richard Stallman to speak in Helsinki, Finland | Jan 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 20, 2014 07:00 PM New York, NY Event "A Free Digital Society" | Jan 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 21:45 |
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| iophk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10605328/EU-has-secret-plan-for-police-to-remote-stop-cars.html | Jan 31 07:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | EU has secret plan for police to 'remote stop' cars - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gjb7h ] | Jan 31 07:25 |
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| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/27/netflix-net-neutrality_n_4655717.html | Jan 31 07:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | Netflix's Battle For Net Neutrality Could Look Like This [ http://ur1.ca/gjb96 ] | Jan 31 07:35 |
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| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/google-sells-motorola-unit-to-lenovo-i-told-you-this-would-happen.html | Jan 31 07:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Google Sells Motorola Unit to Lenovo - I told you this would happen... [ http://ur1.ca/gjbcg ] | Jan 31 07:57 |
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| iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25961096 | Jan 31 08:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - EU group mulls 'remote car-stopping device' for police [ http://ur1.ca/gjbku ] | Jan 31 08:49 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/judge-understands-bittorrent-kills-mass-piracy-lawsuits-140130/ | Jan 31 09:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Judge Understands BitTorrent, Kills Mass Piracy Lawsuits | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gjbor ] | Jan 31 09:13 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/30/one-week-left-to-give-input-to-future-european-copyright-monopoly-law/ | Jan 31 09:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | One Week Left To Give Input To Future European Copyright Monopoly Law - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gjbov ] | Jan 31 09:13 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 31 10:38 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: hi | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | morning, MinceR | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a quick question | Jan 31 10:41 |
| iophk | sure | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | say you have site A with DNS pointing to X | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and site B with DNS pointing to Y | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | when you move DNS from X to Y | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | can you expect no downtime? | Jan 31 10:42 |
| iophk | I think so, but | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | i see requests served OK, but it seems like some machines (esp. in our house) still go nowhere when looking up the address | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that nameserver migrations without downtimes are sometimes like that, but I want to be sure before we leave the house for 5 hours | Jan 31 10:43 |
| iophk | it looks like also a matter of changing authoritative name servers | Jan 31 10:43 |
| schestowitz__ | on the same network, the tablet reaches the old server | Jan 31 10:43 |
| schestowitz__ | And the phone and laptop reach nowhere | Jan 31 10:43 |
| iophk | It may be your cache | Jan 31 10:44 |
| iophk | On two networks, I get the new ip for the hostname | Jan 31 10:44 |
| iophk | lemme check one more... | Jan 31 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | gotcha | Jan 31 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Is this host-level cache like /etc/hosts? | Jan 31 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Becfuse changing broewsers has no effect | Jan 31 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Wher eis DNS cache? | Jan 31 10:45 |
| iophk | The third one is ok. | Jan 31 10:46 |
| schestowitz__ | maybeit'a cached at the hub | Jan 31 10:46 |
| iophk | I'm not sure how it is all cached, if it is still looking for the old name server it will still get the old address. | Jan 31 10:46 |
| iophk | Which nameserver to use might be cached | Jan 31 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | the problem is. it does not even connect to the old server, escept the tablet | Jan 31 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | it accesses the old site | Jan 31 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | the others get nowhere | Jan 31 10:47 |
| iophk | Did you get the old registrar to drop the name? | Jan 31 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | nope. not afaik | Jan 31 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe it checks the IP against the DNS and finds a mismatcxh or something | Jan 31 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | But it does seem to be working for everyone (so far as I know) except us | Jan 31 10:49 |
| iophk | might be two registrars fighting it out for the authoritative answer | Jan 31 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I'll try my web proxy | Jan 31 10:49 |
| iophk | what about setting the old registrar to point to the new, static ip? | Jan 31 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't know how to change registrars details in that way | Jan 31 10:50 |
| iophk | I'm getting the new ip on a 4th net, too. | Jan 31 10:51 |
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| schestowitz__ | it works from the proxy | Jan 31 10:52 |
| schestowitz__ | and pages load as I would hope, inc. sub-sections | Jan 31 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | So I think it's safe to leave it at that and try access from home later on | Jan 31 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | I have some posts to publish later, i tried to make almost 10 yesterday, I didn't sleep well because the moigration wasn't complete before 3am | Jan 31 10:54 |
| schestowitz__ | bbl | Jan 31 10:54 |
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| iophk | https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-free-speech/internet-you-know-and-love-danger | Jan 31 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.aclu.org | The Internet You Know and Love is in Danger | American Civil Liberties Union [ http://ur1.ca/gjcd2 ] | Jan 31 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alternet.org/economy/20-richest-americans-are-greedy-takers-not-inspirational-makers | Jan 31 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.alternet.org | The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gjchs ] | Jan 31 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: They included Bill Gates. | Jan 31 11:30 |
| iophk | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129544.500-why-you-should-care-about-the-end-of-net-neutrality.html | Jan 31 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.newscientist.com | Why you should care about the end of net neutrality - tech - 29 January 2014 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/gizfd ] | Jan 31 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/mate-makes-ubuntu-trusty-repo/19165 | Jan 31 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.muktware.com | MATE makes it to Ubuntu Trusty repo | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gjd65 ] | Jan 31 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like MATE is going to do OK. | Jan 31 13:37 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/p/3580968 | Jan 31 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joindiaspora.com | The "we are all i... | Jan 31 17:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3580968 | Jan 31 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "we are all in this together" propaganda ignores the fact that the rich increase their wealth at double-digit % per year, Queen has shares | Jan 31 17:24 |
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| iophk | Chinese new year today. | Jan 31 17:39 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://pod.asap-soft.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_f482f98798c9047e368a.jpg | Jan 31 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: yeah, no dragon dances here | Jan 31 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but about 10k lanterns around city centre | Jan 31 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | They probably bought them for like a pound each to appease the Chinese cpmmunity (we have Chinatown here) after the waste of money for Jan 1st | Jan 31 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday in Techrights http://t.co/EKcbhcJIOl | Jan 31 17:47 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3582549 | Jan 31 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' | Jan 31 18:06 |
| schestowitz__ | The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' http://www.alternet.org/economy/20-richest-americans-are-greedy-takers-not-inspirational-makers including the biggest thief who buys the press, Gates | Jan 31 18:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | iophk: thanks for the links | Jan 31 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I am catchingm up with lots from ysterday | Jan 31 18:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Professional Video Editor `Lightworks` 11.5 | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Goes Stable For Linux http://t.co/TwC5LuJvis | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bigger, better, faster: LibreOffice 4.2 | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD’s first ARM processors to feature 8-core | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android lose market share to other | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | versions of mobile Linux? | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It’s Not Just Android: 3 Upcoming Linux Mobile | Jan 31 19:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Kernel Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 13.10 | Jan 31 19:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Moonlight: Yet Another Linux Desktop | Jan 31 19:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Reaches Version | Jan 31 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.19.5 http://t.co/5pHzzQ9AUS | Jan 31 19:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Pinguy OS 13.10 Beta 3 | Jan 31 19:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Video of the Week: Sailfish Mobile OS | Jan 31 20:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Pays To Sell GNU/Linux | Jan 31 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | In the hospital, two 1 cent aspirins are $50 and a $1 bag of sterile saline IV solution is $800. | Jan 31 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 31 21:33 |
| abeNd-org | sick people = profit! | Jan 31 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3KBTKO4NALE1U | Jan 31 21:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana's Republicans sue to protect your right to be poisoned by mercury, because something something something economy. [ http://ur1.ca/gjg0w ] | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2014/01/30/indiana-biz-groups-challenge-epa-climate-change-rules/5061715/ | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana utility rates are expected to have a modest increase due to EPA regulations limiting mercury pollution. Indiana spewed about 46,000 pounds of mercury into the air last year. | Jan 31 21:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.indystar.com | Indiana biz groups challenge EPA climate change rules [ http://ur1.ca/gjg0x ] | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | It says that the EPA is accepting public comments. I asked them to finalize the new regulations and to please fight Indiana in court if they have to. | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | From the article: | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | "The increase includes the cost associated with taking mercury and other toxins out of power-plant emissions to meet new rules. (Indiana is among the states challenging those rules in federal court.) " | Jan 31 21:49 |
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| MinceR | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10605328/EU-has-secret-plan-for-police-to-remote-stop-cars.html | Jan 31 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | EU has secret plan for police to 'remote stop' cars - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gjb7h ] | Jan 31 22:20 |
| *MinceR suggests remote detonation feature as well | Jan 31 22:20 | |
| gde33 | that was one of my many proposals to the EU | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | they did god know howmany of them, almost as if I wrote the whole agenda | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | lmao | Jan 31 22:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | lets not do car chases and stop cars | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | if you dont like it we can run you over or something equally appropriate | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | let's be very surprised when we find out that the primary targets of this will disable the "feature" in their cars | Jan 31 22:23 |
| gde33 | smashed by a train | Jan 31 22:23 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:23 |
| gde33 | not as easy as you think | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | also let's be very surprised when others exploit the feature against drivers and kill them or rob them | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | or both | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem to difficult -- remove, disconnect or isolate the antenna that receives the command | Jan 31 22:23 |
| gde33 | then you are going to use the road but ohh it is full of cars | Jan 31 22:24 |
| gde33 | what a bummer | Jan 31 22:24 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:24 |
| gde33 | MinceR: it will be annoying, that is the point | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | no, the point is that it will kill people they didn't want to keep | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | s/keep/kill/ | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | and that it will be exploited against people | Jan 31 22:27 |
| gde33 | sure it will | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | because a bunch of fascist idiots never think anything through | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | or they just don't care | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | it's not their life that's threatened after all | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | (or so they think) | Jan 31 22:27 |
| gde33 | you just need a transportation system that works | Jan 31 22:28 |
| gde33 | switching off the machines is part of that | Jan 31 22:28 |
| MinceR | that's what the ignition key/switch is for | Jan 31 22:28 |
| gde33 | I also proposed a speed limiter | Jan 31 22:29 |
| MinceR | another great idea | Jan 31 22:29 |
| MinceR | it's not like some accidents could be avoided by speeding away from the source of the danger | Jan 31 22:29 |
| gde33 | people have this idea that people working on roads have to get killed regularly | Jan 31 22:29 |
| MinceR | (and who cares anyway) | Jan 31 22:29 |
| MinceR | well, that explains these half-baked ideas, then | Jan 31 22:29 |
| gde33 | the max speed outside my house is 5 km/h there are no sidewalks | Jan 31 22:30 |
| gde33 | it even use to have speed bumps | Jan 31 22:30 |
| gde33 | hah | Jan 31 22:30 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they saved lots of money with no sidewalks | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | sidewalks are expensive stuff! | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | it is in the way the blocks are build | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | yes, "badly" | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | basically it is one big sidewalk | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | cars are suppose to drive walking speed to the parking | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | what are cars doing on it then? | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | cars don't belong on the sidewalk. | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | sure, but there are other areas with other speed limits that dont work either | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | the max is 120 on the highway, people drive 140 | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | you are very annoying if you drive 120 | Jan 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | most people can't handle driving | Jan 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | those who can't do it shouldn't be allowed to | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | then the whole train goes in front of the camera | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | and they all get tickets | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | it's a nonsense system | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | like, if they can't learn how to keep distance, they shouldn't get to drive | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | instead of endangering me | Jan 31 22:33 |
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| gde33 | you should be able to put the pedal to the mettal | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | if they can't learn how to use turn signals, they probably can't learn most of other things either | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | so, again, don't let them drive | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | drive max speed the whole time | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | corners to! | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | if the traffic light is red, the car slows down | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | not maybe | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | we are not just going to make it | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | if the traffic controller computer has a glitch, you die | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | fun times | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | maybe you should remember the whole drive by wire system is going to be implmeneted? | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | not immediately, of course | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | you get to suffer for a few hours, stuck in the car, slowly crushed to death | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | Rotterdam harbor has huge storage area where only robot trucks drive | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | nothing goes wrong | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | why do you want drive by wire? | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | are cars too reliable yet? | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | no they aren't | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | they are driven by idiots remember? | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | yup | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | that's the problem | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | you should stop blaming the idiots | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | that just makes you one of them lol | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | you're not making sense | Jan 31 22:36 |
| gde33 | we need to make a good system for them | Jan 31 22:36 |
| gde33 | so that they can drive places without issues | Jan 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | we have one, it's called public transport | Jan 31 22:36 |
| gde33 | linux cars | Jan 31 22:36 |
| gde33 | public transport doesn't work | Jan 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | neither do idiots | Jan 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | and neither does the "i'll just push a few buttons randomly here on the remote control for that guy's car while he thinks he's driving it lol" | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | I do have real ideas how [public] transport should work | Jan 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | so do i | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | I'm just not going to propose those to the EU | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | they wouldnt understand | Jan 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | hungary is a pretty good example of how a public transport shouldn't and can't work, though | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | the point is that we already have robot cars here | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | many of them | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | since the 80's | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | in special environments, yes | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | not on general roads | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | it gets increasingly silly to have people crash themselves into annother for the greater good of transportation lol | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | not mixed with other modes of transport | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | sure they are | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | where? | Jan 31 22:39 |
| gde33 | they look like trucks with 2 behinds | Jan 31 22:39 |
| MinceR | never seen those | Jan 31 22:39 |
| gde33 | it is mostly pilots but it's done arround the world | Jan 31 22:39 |
| MinceR | airlines are very different | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | with all the space, you can offset them a lot more from each other (lanes too) | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | plus you don't get pedestrians, bikers, etc. | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | or crossing other modes of transport | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | also, you have an extra dimension to avoid conflicts | Jan 31 22:41 |
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| gde33 | fly by wire you mean? | Jan 31 22:41 |
| MinceR | and afaik pretty much all the planes are involved in traffic control | Jan 31 22:41 |
| MinceR | no, i mean autopilot and such | Jan 31 22:41 |
| MinceR | also, afaik traffic control isn't automatic either | Jan 31 22:41 |
| gde33 | they are working on the fliying civilian | Jan 31 22:41 |
| gde33 | the goal is cars that fly with roads in the sky | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | and fly by wire | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | so there is a kind of road in the sky | Jan 31 22:42 |
| MinceR | it's a goal, not something that's already implemented | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | here it is a goal | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | there are pilots | Jan 31 22:42 |
| MinceR | afaik fly-by-wire is merely controlling the control surfaces indirectly, though a computer | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | sure, it is very simple | Jan 31 22:43 |
| gde33 | the robot driver will just use many perhaps terrible systems side by side | Jan 31 22:43 |
| gde33 | like follow the white line | Jan 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | which is not what i'm looking for when the danger is that m$ will manage to infest these systems with their crapware | Jan 31 22:43 |
| gde33 | amazon uses robots in their warehouse | Jan 31 22:44 |
| gde33 | lol http://www.icona.nl/berlioz/fotos/DSC00168p.jpg | Jan 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | they've already infested systems that can distract the driver or even make it impossible for them to see what they're doing | Jan 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | the warehouse is a strictly controlled environment | Jan 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | the street isn't | Jan 31 22:44 |
| gde33 | a crane like on the left in the picture could easily build houses | Jan 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | and it won't wait for crossing pedestrians | Jan 31 22:45 |
| gde33 | the harbor is so controlled that if you walk on the road the trucks may all get a new planing. | Jan 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | actually it looks like it's driven by a human | Jan 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | it has a driver's cabin on the left | Jan 31 22:46 |
| gde33 | so you walk onto the road, there isn't a truck to be seen anywhee | Jan 31 22:46 |
| gde33 | but they are all planning how to avoid you | Jan 31 22:46 |
| gde33 | if there is any object on the road it deploys people to go check it out | Jan 31 22:46 |
| gde33 | all alarms go off if it isn't just perfect | Jan 31 22:47 |
| gde33 | the place also turns into a container madhouse if it isn't just perfect | Jan 31 22:48 |
| gde33 | costs serious money | Jan 31 22:48 |
| MinceR | and i suspect they don't often let people in it | Jan 31 22:48 |
| gde33 | microsoft people are stopped at the gate | Jan 31 22:49 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | I punch in telephone numbers at random at the gas station. | Jan 31 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | The grocery store loyalty card customers usually don't redeem their gas points. | Jan 31 22:50 |
| gde33 | Dutch people never build anything that isn't going to work. If there is an inch of doubt they all run away, seriously. | Jan 31 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | So at the last day of the month, I go through until I find one with a lot of points, and then I use their gas points. | Jan 31 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to find a 40 cent per gallon one today. B-) | Jan 31 22:51 |
| gde33 | hah | Jan 31 22:52 |
| gde33 | here the suppermarket has a folder with the deals in it. | Jan 31 22:52 |
| gde33 | I dont use it but some people look at it as the adventure | Jan 31 22:55 |
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| gde33 | I think a delivery suppermarket with a fancy website could be much cheaper. | Jan 31 22:57 |
| gde33 | we could make it like world of warcraft | Jan 31 22:58 |
| gde33 | have people fight over their food deals | Jan 31 22:58 |
| gde33 | hardcore battles to the death | Jan 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | no need for a website to do that, black friday already works | Jan 31 22:58 |
| gde33 | not enough carnage | Jan 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | hand out chainsaws at the entrance, then | Jan 31 22:58 |
| gde33 | sell the store client for 300 euro | Jan 31 22:59 |
| MinceR | or just popularize the idea so clients will bring their own | Jan 31 22:59 |
| MinceR | or just raise the stakes and let them figure it out | Jan 31 22:59 |
| gde33 | the de-lux shop op and shop | Jan 31 22:59 |
| MinceR | maybe overpopulation will take care of it on its own | Jan 31 22:59 |
| gde33 | my most brutal marketing innovation was to do store storage in a display next to peoples bed. | Jan 31 23:00 |
| gde33 | this moment of natural zombie | Jan 31 23:00 |
| gde33 | pick your new boots? | Jan 31 23:00 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 23:01 |
| gde33 | space population | Jan 31 23:01 |
| MinceR | i don't think people need any help to make really stupid decisions | Jan 31 23:02 |
| gde33 | 200 years mars will be infested with humans | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | they do it on their own just fine, even when their own life is at stake | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | only if humanity survives that long | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | and doesn't blast itself back into the stone age, or mad max | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | or merely let the fundies take over to the point where they will no longer be able to figure out how to continue | Jan 31 23:03 |
| MinceR | and won't care anyway | Jan 31 23:03 |
| gde33 | my best EU proposal was to have banks put a donation button on their website | Jan 31 23:04 |
| gde33 | that would salve evrything | Jan 31 23:04 |
| gde33 | we could all donate as much as we want to, as often as we like | Jan 31 23:04 |
| gde33 | ^^ | Jan 31 23:05 |
| MinceR | the hungarian government has already set up a system so you could donate to them | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | nice | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | One of my most popular ideas was the volentary tax system | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | it got support from all angles | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | the republican nazi completely agreed with the tree hugger SJF | Jan 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | also known as "charity"? :> | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | only now we call it government | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | imagine the fun we could have? | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | It would be public information | Jan 31 23:07 |
| gde33 | and we could of course refuse you services if you chose not to pay | Jan 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | isn't the current setup better? | Jan 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | where they just take the money away from you no matter what | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | and if you're in hungary, you'll either get nothing in exchange for it, or something so crap it might as well be nothing | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | no | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | the implication of just taking something from you would invetiably be people taking things from me | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | so? the zombies don't mind | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | here, at least | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | if I can talk you into just handing over your money | Jan 31 23:10 |
| gde33 | you are of course free to do that to me as well | Jan 31 23:10 |
| MinceR | governments all over the world have managed to talk people into such a one-way deal | Jan 31 23:10 |
| MinceR | see also the 'social contract' | Jan 31 23:10 |
| gde33 | could do both side by side in a transition | Jan 31 23:10 |
| gde33 | the deal was nesasary | Jan 31 23:11 |
| gde33 | we needed representation because we couldnt be all over the world at the same time | Jan 31 23:11 |
| gde33 | this is not true anymore, thats all that has changed | Jan 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | did we get representation? | Jan 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the nazis in fidesz don't represent me | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | I'm sure it worked at least for some people some day historically | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | it was better than nothing at all | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | at least we got lies we could believe in for our vote | Jan 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | we always got lies we could believe in | Jan 31 23:13 |
| gde33 | as a kind of "pick your own branding" | Jan 31 23:13 |
| MinceR | that's what cults were for, too | Jan 31 23:13 |
| MinceR | still are | Jan 31 23:13 |
| gde33 | vote for whatever gets your electroytes going | Jan 31 23:13 |
| MinceR | it's got what plants crave? | Jan 31 23:13 |
| gde33 | :) | Jan 31 23:14 |
| gde33 | with volentary taxes the ideas would have to be proffitable | Jan 31 23:15 |
| gde33 | imagine that lol | Jan 31 23:15 |
| gde33 | we can build windmills and solar factories if it makes financial sense | Jan 31 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | I see those books on using Android devices, and I have to wonder who reads those, and did their parents have any children that lived? | Jan 31 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Learning how to tie your shoe laces is harder than learning Android for ****'s sake... *sigh* People...... | Jan 31 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why Sprint should have to level the rainforest to print out documentation for every single thing you want to do with your Android computer, which has access to the online manuals because it has a web browser. | Jan 31 23:16 |
| MinceR | they're always profitable | Jan 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | just not for you | Jan 31 23:17 |
| gde33 | the investor doesnt get paid? | Jan 31 23:18 |
| MinceR | depends | Jan 31 23:18 |
| gde33 | that nasa court case where they didnt look at the martian mushroom. | Jan 31 23:18 |
| MinceR | you won't live on words alone :> | Jan 31 23:18 |
| gde33 | the public paid for the pictures | Jan 31 23:18 |
| gde33 | we could put it in writing how and when they are going to be compensated | Jan 31 23:19 |
| gde33 | not unusual | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | I always laugh when I see those Consumer Cellular commercials. | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | "It has big buttons and no features!" | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, so, like Windows 8? | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | *rimshot* | Jan 31 23:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 23:22 |
| gde33 | with icons so that you dont have to remember how to read | Jan 31 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I think they actually said "no confusing features". Windows has no features and manages to be extremely confusing. | Jan 31 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like, why does that tile desktop POS pop up randomly and why does their window manager switch between Firefox and Firefox Private Browsing windows so that you type what you're trying to put into the private browsing window into the non-private browsing window unless you happen to close the non-private window before you use the private one? | Jan 31 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Window managers that consume 300+ MB of RAM and inexplicably switch between active windows need to be taken out back and given both barrels. | Jan 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | hypeOS has no features and manages to confuse its users and fans | Jan 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | (into believing that the hypePhone is a smartphone, for example) | Jan 31 23:26 |
| MinceR | also, inexplicably switching between active windows (or to nothing at all) is an old winblows feature, even xp had it | Jan 31 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry... Software companies that don't listen to their users, implement bloated things that are of questionable usefulness, change the user interface constantly and in inappropriate ways, and produce malfunctioning code are a nit of mine. | Jan 31 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Thankfully, I don't have to use any Microsoft or Apple products on my computers. | Jan 31 23:27 |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8030564096/h47ACF287/ | Jan 31 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | The last time I actually read a manual on how to use an operating system was when I was about 9 years old and trying to use DOS.* | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I managed to hand edit my autoexec.bat and config.sys to use emm386.exe and himem.sys to free up enough conventional and extended memory to make Star Wars:X-Wing work because 640k was not enough for anyone. :/ | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_X-Wing | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | *(I guess you could count the odd glancing of manpages if you want to be dicky about it. Learning command switches and syntax is a little different than an iPhone user trying to figure out how to tap on an icon. Where do they dig these people up?) | Jan 31 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Star Wars: X-Wing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gjgmw ] | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's so complicated! TAP TAP TAP! I don't know how to use this thing. TAP TAP TAP! | Jan 31 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | ALL IS LOST! ALL IS LOST!!!!! | Jan 31 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | And now a public service message for crApple customers. | Jan 31 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Picard_ea1ccc_1947694.jpg | Jan 31 23:37 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 23:37 |
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| gde33 | tnwpwhd (Thats not what picard would have done) | Jan 31 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Picard would hit that, with an inverse tachyon beam. | Jan 31 23:40 |
| gde33 | I was just pondering how every notable nerd must have his inner picard one can address | Jan 31 23:40 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 31 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3VGIWV8L8YF53 | Feb 01 01:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Study finds that cough syrup is apparently useless for doing anything other than making sizzurp. [ http://ur1.ca/gjh32 ] | Feb 01 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when I had to go to the laundromat. | Feb 01 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's washer broke down and she had to go there recently. She complained about most of the machines being broken and/or filthy and getting gouged to do her laundry. | Feb 01 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | I told her "Now you know why I was wearing the same clothes 4-5 times when I worked at Walmart. I got sick of putting $40 in their nasty ass machines every month!" | Feb 01 01:21 |
| gde33 | MinceR: but volentary taxes, imagine it, it would look something like kickstarter | Feb 01 01:30 |
| gde33 | every committee for it self | Feb 01 01:30 |
| gde33 | foreiners may pay taxes to :) | Feb 01 01:33 |
| gde33 | maybe all we need is some sort of wrapper for existing libraries :D | Feb 01 01:40 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2OUM898OYXKW6 | Feb 01 02:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Microsoft sues a company for exercising their rights under the first sale doctrine. [ http://ur1.ca/gjhge ] | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20140128/NEWS01/140128007/Microsoft-sues-Urbandale-company-over-alleged-counterfeit-software | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has sued a computer store that was selling refurbished laptops that came with a Windows Vista license, which had been re-imaged with the same version of Windows Vista that they came with. | Feb 01 02:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.press-citizen.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gjhgg ] | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft claims that exercising your rights under the First Sale Doctrine is "counterfeiting software". | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, everyone that is selling their old computer and keeps Windows on it for the next owner is doing the same thing that this company did. Microsoft says you have no right to do that, which flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent. (It's the same as selling a used book or a used CD, which is totally legal.) | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not suggesting that it's good to give someone else a copy of Windows. | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's better to give them software that respects their freedom, such as GNU/Linux. Nobody has ever been sued for "counterfeiting" GNU/Linux, because software counterfeiting is impossible, and everyone has the guaranteed right to share it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that there isn't much (proprietary) software that the NSA hasn't bugged these days. | Feb 01 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Even Angry Birds is reporting to them about the user's activity! | Feb 01 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it when birds take a leak. It always happens right after you get out of the car wash... | Feb 01 02:47 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC: good link | Feb 01 03:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I will do an article about it tomorrow | Feb 01 03:02 |
| schestowitz__ | [21:33] <DaemonFC> In the hospital, two 1 cent aspirins are $50 and a $1 bag of sterile saline IV solution is $800. | Feb 01 03:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow, welcome to USA | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Patricia says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft produces rubbish products and is a has-been dying company. This is one of their last gasps of frustration. If MS wins, I hope that more people switch to a Mac for their new computer. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Apple software has most of the same problems regarding lack of user freedoms. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | They haven't sued anyone for reselling their Mac that I am aware of, but they wouldn't need to. Software is kind of a hook for them to sell their expensive computers in the first place. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Patricia says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Apple gives away its OS for free these days - you need to keep up. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [21:33] <abeNd-org> sick people = profit! | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | They give it away gratis at the moment, but it does not give its users freedom. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 8.1 was also gratis, but did not give users freedom. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, every new version of either OS takes more freedom away from the user. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Not here, not yet, although the Tories try to make it so | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | So, why would I care about Microsoft threatening a company for distributing its software? | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Well, first, it threatens everyone who has purchased a license to use anything that is bound by copyright. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, it would not mean fewer copies of Windows in existence. Every user and company would simply stop reselling existing licenses, and pay Microsoft even more money for new licenses, which is worse than simply reselling an existing license, which would give them even more money to attack users and their freedom with more malicious products. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better if every copy of Windows was destroyed, but giving them more money for new licenses just makes two problems where there was only one problem before. It's counterproductive. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | err, because it would | Feb 01 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Keep an eye on this case. It threatens the entire first sale doctrine. | Feb 01 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | Almost every time you give this Supreme Court another chance to fuck people over, it takes it. | Feb 01 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: Yeah. I had good insurance before I turned 18. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, there was no PPACA, so you just lost your parents health insurance when you turned 18. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's 26 now. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, with a few minutes left on the clock, I hurried up and got a whole bunch of things taken care of. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Within a year, I had sinus surgery, a tonsillectomy, all my wisdom teeth removed, etc. | Feb 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | I actually got all my wisdom teeth removed and then lost my dental AND heath insurance the very next day. | Feb 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | *health | Feb 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | And I was lucky I could get in at the last minute, because 12 years ago, it cost over $2,500 to get your wisdom teeth removed. | Feb 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | They weren't causing me a problem, yet, but I hurried up and got it done because there was no telling when it would be a problem and where I was going to find $2,500 at. | Feb 01 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | The pain medication they gave me didn't work, and the dentist would not speak to me, or call in a new prescription, because I was no longer insured. | Feb 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I basically spent the next week in terrible pain because I had no insurance and was recovering from surgery. | Feb 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: Don't get sick here. | Feb 01 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | Get sick just about anywhere else in the developed world, but don't get sick here. | Feb 01 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx30JJNLCN4CUJM | Feb 01 03:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Christie asks for public's patience while he comes uo with new story [ http://ur1.ca/gjhm8 ] | Feb 01 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | "It wasn't me! It was the three chinned man! Oh ****!" | Feb 01 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | The British have a right-wing government that is dealing with a legacy universal healthcare program that dates back to better days when people cared about each other, that they have to make fail, so they can have an excuse to privatize it. | Feb 01 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sort of like Republicans in the US and free public education. | Feb 01 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | First you have to make it fail. | Feb 01 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then you scream "It's failing!". | Feb 01 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | Then you "fix it" (so that rich criminals can gorge themselves on the privatized inferior version). | Feb 01 04:14 |
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| ldk | https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/429287813066944512 | Feb 01 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @matthew_d_green: "Anonymity is the enemy of privacy" says RSA head, with an (apparently) straight face. This stuff is gold. http://t.co/sY2yLvOjTp | Feb 01 07:07 |
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| Sosumi | tell Patricia that crapple is a hardware manufacturer | Feb 01 10:14 |
| Sosumi | and their main revenue, if actually, all revenue comes from hardware | Feb 01 10:15 |
| Sosumi | that is why you have the computers they sell totally locked down | Feb 01 10:15 |
| Sosumi | simply because crapple isn't going to get your money if you keep updating you dear mac pro for 6 years | Feb 01 10:16 |
| Sosumi | specially when it comes to realms of graphics cards | Feb 01 10:16 |
| Sosumi | and if m$ is so crappy, why do you get much better drivers on windows (and linux) than on osx | Feb 01 10:17 |
| Sosumi | if m$ is so bad, why does xcode is a total letdown compared to VS? | Feb 01 10:17 |
| Sosumi | is crapple actually better? or just as bad as m$ | Feb 01 10:19 |
| Sosumi | my money is on the later | Feb 01 10:19 |
| Sosumi | surely the aluminum macbooks are kewl and everything | Feb 01 10:20 |
| Sosumi | but so are dell precisions and hp elitebooks | Feb 01 10:20 |
| Sosumi | and eclipse is free and better than both | Feb 01 10:23 |
| Sosumi | xcode and vs | Feb 01 10:23 |
| Sosumi | but, it has been known since forever that m$ doesn't want you to resell your already activated winblows license with a laptop | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | even through | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | the seller could claim | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | that he's just reselling the laptop hardware wise | Feb 01 10:25 |
| Sosumi | and as for the included windows is just like "an ownership transfer" | Feb 01 10:26 |
| Sosumi | and that he's not charging for that | Feb 01 10:26 |
| Sosumi | and I hope that in each receipt he passed | Feb 01 10:28 |
| Sosumi | he never mentioned laptop with winblows vista | Feb 01 10:28 |
| Sosumi | because in that way he'll be screwed | Feb 01 10:28 |
| Sosumi | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfV5Z63CAAAWRlB.png:large | Feb 01 11:59 |
| Sosumi | no comment | Feb 01 12:00 |
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| iophk | Bruce's site has been down for at least a few days. | Feb 01 12:14 |
| iophk | http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html | Feb 01 12:14 |
| iophk | Also, he seems to have stopped with Lighttpd and moved to nginx. | Feb 01 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html ) | Feb 01 12:14 |
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| cubezzz | I'd never use an operating system without source code unless there was absolutely no other choice | Feb 01 12:51 |
| cubezzz | historically, Xenix was a giant step backwards from Unix v7 | Feb 01 12:52 |
| iophk | cubezzz: even this one? | Feb 01 12:52 |
| iophk | http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_every_mobile_phone | Feb 01 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.osnews.com | The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone [ http://ur1.ca/g1225 ] | Feb 01 12:52 |
| cubezzz | well, I never use mobile phones :) | Feb 01 12:53 |
| iophk | :) | Feb 01 12:53 |
| cubezzz | SunOS was similar, Sun took 4.3BSD and made it into a closed source OS | Feb 01 12:55 |
| cubezzz | two examples of going from open source to proprietary source | Feb 01 12:55 |
| cubezzz | after 1992 everything changed again, this time going in the opposite direction | Feb 01 12:56 |
| cubezzz | I hacked up a preliminary list of alternative operating systems: | Feb 01 13:03 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/alternative-os.txt | Feb 01 13:03 |
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| iophk | propaganda : http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/31/7-ways-microsoft-excel-could-change-the-world | Feb 01 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Seven ways Microsoft Excel could change the world | News | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjk9m ] | Feb 01 13:42 |
| iophk | and here : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/01/why-ditching-facebook-feels-like-opting-out-of-modern-life | Feb 01 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Why ditching Facebook feels like opting out of modern life | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjka6 ] | Feb 01 13:45 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/one-million-people-call-on-fcc-to-save-net-neutrality/ | Feb 01 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | One million people call on FCC to “save net neutrality” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkae ] | Feb 01 13:46 |
| Sosumi | since apple is so great | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | to the point they can't even get their own stuff working properly | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/jan14/012414.html | Feb 01 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.xlr8yourmac.com | 1/24/2014 Late 2013 Mac Pro randcom crashes/restarts and sleep problems - xlr8yourmac.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjkax ] | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1702539 | Feb 01 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.macrumors.com | Mac Pro 2013 6,1 Thunderbolt / Sleep /Wake Reboot Problem - Appreciate Help - MacRumors Forums [ http://ur1.ca/gjkay ] | Feb 01 13:50 |
| Sosumi | also, maya viewport gets worst results on osx than it gets on windows and on linux | Feb 01 13:50 |
| Sosumi | and that is with the amd cards used on the trashcan pro | Feb 01 13:51 |
| Sosumi | so Patricia is kind of being a crapple patrician | Feb 01 13:52 |
| Sosumi | and we all know moronic that kind of ppl can be | Feb 01 13:52 |
| cubezzz | haha, excel | Feb 01 13:56 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Feb 01 13:56 |
| cubezzz | DEC was more open source than Apple ever was | Feb 01 14:03 |
| cubezzz | even if only partially | Feb 01 14:04 |
| cubezzz | DEC let one have RT11 source code, plus tons of source code for some lanugages | Feb 01 14:04 |
| cubezzz | even IBM was better than Apple :) | Feb 01 14:05 |
| cubezzz | DEC was also better than Commodore, Atari and Radio Shack | Feb 01 14:06 |
| cubezzz | what good open source project did Commodore make? | Feb 01 14:06 |
| cubezzz | that's right... nothing :) | Feb 01 14:07 |
| cubezzz | A lot of the stuff that appeared on Fish disks was from the PDP-11 world | Feb 01 14:08 |
| cubezzz | at least DEC has DECUS, which goes all the way back to 1961 | Feb 01 14:09 |
| cubezzz | http://www.decuslib.com | Feb 01 14:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.decuslib.com | NO TITLE | Feb 01 14:10 |
| cubezzz | ok, so DEC is dead but there are still DECUS archives around | Feb 01 14:11 |
| cubezzz | what did Apple have in the past? | Feb 01 14:14 |
| cubezzz | they had Xenix on Lisa, and a bunch of closed source OSes | Feb 01 14:14 |
| cubezzz | I guess nothing has changed there | Feb 01 14:15 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ | Feb 01 14:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkgq ] | Feb 01 14:16 |
| Sosumi | crapple has no good open source project that I can name | Feb 01 14:17 |
| iophk | They've taken over CUPS | Feb 01 14:18 |
| Sosumi | and the stuff on macosforge/macports are kind of dead | Feb 01 14:19 |
| Sosumi | xquartz? lol, their new compiler? llvm/clang | Feb 01 14:19 |
| Sosumi | why would anyone use that anyways | Feb 01 14:20 |
| Sosumi | opendarwin? | Feb 01 14:20 |
| Sosumi | get freebsd instead | Feb 01 14:20 |
| Sosumi | so, when apple says in their propaganda that they are great open source contributors | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | well that is a lie | Feb 01 14:21 |
| cubezzz | I heard that opendarwin was shut down quite a while ago | Feb 01 14:21 |
| cubezzz | 2006 I think? | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | but they still release darwin package | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | *the | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | another open source project from crapple | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | web objects? | Feb 01 14:22 |
| cubezzz | so sure BSD is a good choice, openbsd, netbsd or freebsd | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | deprecated and then "open sourced" | Feb 01 14:23 |
| cubezzz | I can write for BSD or Linux and it's easy enough to go from one to the other, usually | Feb 01 14:23 |
| Sosumi | shake, that composing suite that apple got when they bought nothing is real | Feb 01 14:23 |
| Sosumi | also deprecated, but never open sourced | Feb 01 14:23 |
| Sosumi | another open source project from them | Feb 01 14:25 |
| Sosumi | the apple lossless audio codec | Feb 01 14:25 |
| Sosumi | I wander why anyone would use that over flac | Feb 01 14:26 |
| Sosumi | or wav | Feb 01 14:26 |
| Sosumi | unless ofc you have an ipod or a hypephone | Feb 01 14:26 |
| cubezzz | really much of the hardware nowadays isn't too great | Feb 01 14:28 |
| iophk | wav can't handle metadata if I understand correctly. flac is the way to go. | Feb 01 14:28 |
| cubezzz | the basic program of closed source bios has not been addressed except: | Feb 01 14:28 |
| cubezzz | http://www.coreboot.org/Chromebooks | Feb 01 14:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.coreboot.org | Chromebooks - coreboot | Feb 01 14:29 |
| cubezzz | s/program/problem/ | Feb 01 14:29 |
| Sosumi | intel is charging more and more for their parts | Feb 01 14:29 |
| cubezzz | you can get a chromebook pretty cheap too | Feb 01 14:30 |
| Sosumi | even through they cost pocket change to produce | Feb 01 14:30 |
| Sosumi | chromebooks are kind of toy computers | Feb 01 14:30 |
| Sosumi | only that top of the line model google has is decent enough | Feb 01 14:31 |
| cubezzz | I'm all ears to hear about good alternatives :) | Feb 01 14:31 |
| Sosumi | plus I really have no need for a laptop | Feb 01 14:31 |
| Sosumi | so I kind of not keep on par with what is around | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | but as for alternatives | Feb 01 14:32 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/NiCSTSF.jpg | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | new intelistations please | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | with ppc | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | or sparcstations | Feb 01 14:33 |
| Sosumi | intel needs big competition on the high end segments | Feb 01 14:34 |
| Sosumi | otherwise they just charge an arm and a leg for their workstation parts | Feb 01 14:34 |
| iophk | Larry is helping his friend Bill by choking sparc. | Feb 01 14:34 |
| iophk | He could be making money on it otherwise. | Feb 01 14:34 |
| Sosumi | yep he could | Feb 01 14:42 |
| Sosumi | the big hope now is IBM | Feb 01 14:43 |
| Sosumi | since they sold the x86 business to lenovo | Feb 01 14:43 |
| Sosumi | now all they have left is power | Feb 01 14:43 |
| Sosumi | I really hope they don't confine it to just servers | Feb 01 14:44 |
| MinceR | i think they sold it because they don't want to do it | Feb 01 14:44 |
| Sosumi | they don't want to do it with x86 | Feb 01 14:45 |
| Sosumi | that was why they sold their business to lenovo | Feb 01 14:46 |
| Sosumi | and now since what they have left is ppc, they could leverage that architecture also outside servers | Feb 01 14:47 |
| Sosumi | and that means bringing back the intelistation | Feb 01 14:47 |
| Sosumi | which in the past, used the same power variant used by apple on the powermac | Feb 01 14:47 |
| iophk | it would be great if it meant some Power workstations or notebooks. | Feb 01 14:48 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Feb 01 14:51 |
| Sosumi | lets see how it'll be in a year from now | Feb 01 14:52 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/2014-the-year-america-ruined-the-internet-2014-2 | Feb 01 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | 2014: The Year America Broke The Internet - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjl1w ] | Feb 01 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Hello, Bradley. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Here I would like to present the proof of thfsplus.ko labeled as "GPL" while being sold along with products (NAS storages in this case): | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=89873 -> http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=396303#p396303 | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | It seems to me that Tuxera will at least have to open the code for the GPL product they sold. If it turns | Feb 01 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forum.qnap.com | QNAP NAS Community Forum • View topic - HFS+ module [ http://ur1.ca/gjl8b ] | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | out to be the case that they did with HFS+ what Samsung did with vfat.ko and exFAT, then it's up to Finnish | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | authorities to deal with Tuxera's actions. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forum.qnap.com | QNAP NAS Community Forum • Login [ http://ur1.ca/gjl8c ] | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Please feel free to forward the source code to me as an attachment in case Tuxera sends it to you via reply. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | -rxrz | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:29 |
| iophk | interesting | Feb 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | release date drupal 8 is hard to figure out | Feb 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | nobody gives even an estimate | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | nut being slow to release is good for companie | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://drupal.org/node/2133007 | Feb 01 16:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | drupal.org | when will drupal 8 release? | Drupal.org | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: maybe some Finns should liaise with rzrz | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she could use some help, with language, access etc. | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | she's anon | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | This is very effective | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | she's effectively throwing patents on FSes like that down the drain | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and makes support for them possible without the red tapes, like patent payments of buying blobs | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | This undermines Apple and Microsoft actions against Android, Tizen, etc. | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Drupal 8 | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | ou can check the release cycle for Drupal 8 here: | Feb 01 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://drupal.org/core/release-cycle | Feb 01 16:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | drupal.org | Drupal core release cycle | Drupal.org | Feb 01 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Unfortunately there is no official release date yet. | Feb 01 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:36 |
| iophk | "The board requires you to be registered and logged in to view this forum." | Feb 01 16:40 |
| iophk | qnap | Feb 01 16:40 |
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| iophk | Txera are also bringing in sw patents through the back door by acting as if they are valid and paying/receiving money for them. That hurts the interests of the EU badly. | Feb 01 17:30 |
| iophk | That might not be directly affecting the HFS issue, but might be important anyway. | Feb 01 17:30 |
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| Sosumi | also new M$ CEO may be Satya Nadella | Feb 01 17:55 |
| Sosumi | a dude that has been already 20 years with M$ | Feb 01 17:55 |
| MinceR | androidauthority says it might be sundar pichai | Feb 01 17:55 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that would work | Feb 01 17:55 |
| Sosumi | and that probably belongs to the Balmer echo chamber | Feb 01 17:55 |
| Sosumi | all I know is that M$ | Feb 01 17:56 |
| Sosumi | needs a john sculley | Feb 01 17:56 |
| MinceR | m$ has performed an illegal operation and needs to be shut down | Feb 01 17:57 |
| Sosumi | and who else than a john sculley to wreck it to the ground? | Feb 01 17:57 |
| Sosumi | kind of like tim crook is already doing with crapple | Feb 01 17:58 |
| Sosumi | ios marketshare going down | Feb 01 17:58 |
| MinceR | tim crook should hurry up | Feb 01 17:58 |
| MinceR | crApple is still doing too much damage | Feb 01 17:58 |
| Sosumi | no exact direction on their products, outside of the ever increasing locked garden | Feb 01 17:58 |
| MinceR | which the cultists love | Feb 01 17:59 |
| MinceR | as always | Feb 01 17:59 |
| Sosumi | with the mac pro being the latest victim | Feb 01 17:59 |
| Sosumi | helvetica neue (lol= | Feb 01 17:59 |
| Sosumi | and just look at the iphone, it doesn't even feature a gorilla glass 3 screen cover | Feb 01 18:00 |
| Sosumi | even through it is the most expensive phone around | Feb 01 18:00 |
| MinceR | it also doesn't feature an open platform | Feb 01 18:01 |
| MinceR | or real multitasking | Feb 01 18:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea about the multitasking | Feb 01 18:02 |
| MinceR | the set of background tasks is predefined and requires special APIs | Feb 01 18:02 |
| MinceR | so less "multitasking" than in DOS | Feb 01 18:02 |
| MinceR | where you'd have to hook interrupts but could at least do what you wanted | Feb 01 18:03 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 01 18:03 |
| MinceR | oh, also no common filesystem | Feb 01 18:04 |
| Sosumi | yep | Feb 01 18:05 |
| Sosumi | they could just have built some sort of finder into it | Feb 01 18:05 |
| Sosumi | but no | Feb 01 18:05 |
| MinceR | there was some bullshit said about needing a file manager being bad or something | Feb 01 18:06 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585869 | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whitewashing the #fed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfV5Z63CAAAWRlB.png:large number cooking is not heroism, and economic gaps increase | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "Strangely, most of the sites I read would use the title "The Douche"..." | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585865 | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The site of Bruce Perens site has been down for at least a few days." -iophk http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html missing #technocrat | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html ) | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "Site is up. It looks like a fresh Apache install or so." | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | nginx | Feb 01 18:07 |
| iophk | content down, though technically the site is up | Feb 01 18:08 |
| Sosumi | no idea, but having an user exposed file system would mean that the user wouldn't need to reset the phone in case some app broke and you could no longer access it | Feb 01 18:08 |
| Sosumi | also, from what I heard | Feb 01 18:08 |
| iophk | It has been like that for a while. | Feb 01 18:08 |
| Sosumi | deleting an app | Feb 01 18:08 |
| Sosumi | doesn't remove everything pertaining to the said app | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: not many people know about the siite | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | let alone read it | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585685 | Feb 01 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ #ubuntu #linux #steamos | Feb 01 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkgq ] | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | "I kind of hate unetbootin. Never got it to work properly. That's probably just my fault though. SUSE Studio Imagewriter is the best, IMO. 'course, good old dd is nice too." | Feb 01 18:09 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-8-1-marketshare-set-to-overtake-windows-vista-desktop-marketshare/ | Feb 01 18:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.digitaltrends.com | Windows 8.1 Marketshare Right Behind Windows Vista | Digital Trends [ http://ur1.ca/gjlwq ] | Feb 01 18:21 |
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| Sosumi | lol | Feb 01 18:22 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/424172555961122816 | Feb 01 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thurrott: @quiggles It may not be selling as well as Vista. | Feb 01 18:23 |
| Sosumi | m$ went to the "trouble" (lol) of creating metro | Feb 01 18:27 |
| Sosumi | but things that could actually increase productivity | Feb 01 18:27 |
| Sosumi | like virtual desktops and "exposé" type features are non existent | Feb 01 18:28 |
| MinceR | even crApple's virtual desktop is crippled | Feb 01 18:33 |
| Sosumi | but at least they have one | Feb 01 18:59 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/philip-k-dick-predictions-2014-1 | Feb 01 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Philip K. Dick Predictions - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjm7a ] | Feb 01 19:12 |
| iophk | http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1027178.shtml | Feb 01 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.finfacts.ie | Foreign government requests Bermuda to investigate Microsoft's Irish-linked subsidiaries [ http://ur1.ca/gjm9y ] | Feb 01 19:22 |
| iophk | Thus the noise about the CEO choices. It buries the real news. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| iophk | http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3092/20140201/yahoo-plans-return-to-search-engine-roots-with-a-vengeance.htm | Feb 01 19:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techtimes.com | Yahoo plans return to search engine roots with a vengeance : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times [ http://ur1.ca/gjmcl ] | Feb 01 19:32 |
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| iophk | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140131/09523326059/david-cameron-says-snoopers-charter-is-necessary-because-fictional-crime-dramas-he-watches-prove-it.shtml | Feb 01 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | David Cameron Says Snooper's Charter Is Necessary Because Fictional Crime Dramas He Watches Prove It | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gjmhk ] | Feb 01 19:56 |
| iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25969918 | Feb 01 20:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - David Cameron wants fresh push on communications data [ http://ur1.ca/gjmij ] | Feb 01 20:01 |
| iophk | http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/Default/Latest-News/Article/Tax-probe-into-Bermuda-based-trio-of-Microsoft-linked-entities/-3/1297/74489 | Feb 01 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bermudasun.bm | Bermuda Sun: Tax probe into Bermuda based trio of Microsoft linked entities [ http://ur1.ca/gjmm1 ] | Feb 01 20:25 |
| iophk | What about that bribery scandal from last year? That too seems to have been brushed under the rug. | Feb 01 20:26 |
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| DaemonFC | http://action.usaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=605 | Feb 01 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | action.usaction.org | Sign our petition: America deserves a raise [ http://ur1.ca/gjnft ] | Feb 01 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, their "Law of Similars" is ridiculous pseudo-scientific garbage. It makes a ridiculous claim that water has a "memory" of everything it has been exposed to, that the effect on the human body of a substance is greater the more diluted it is, and that the substance in question will cure diseases that cause similar symptoms of the substance that is claimed to be the active ingredient in the homeopathic solution. (The hair of the dog | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | that bit you?)/ | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, there's no way to achieve the dilutions that they claim. One duck liver and heart would be more than enough to make all of the "Oscillococcinum" sold in the world (supposedly a flu remedy), and it would require more than 100 times more water than exists on the planet Earth to dilute it to the claimed dilution. | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Third, and purely ironic, the biggest company behind "homeopathic remedies" is a French company called Boiron, which rhymes with "Moron". | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Even though homeopathy is pseudo-scientific crap, it has a large base of followers, and you can find their little bottles of water and placebo pills at your local Walgreens. It's a multi-billion dollar per year business. | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | And on that note, I'm going to take a leak. Please enjoy drinking an 8C dilution of my urine. I hope it's refreshing. | Feb 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | If it cures anything, let me know. | Feb 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | "i got a homeopathic pill for my gullibility" | Feb 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it's a waste of money. | Feb 01 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse because you're not just wasting money, you're using placebo as an alternative to seeking medical attention. | Feb 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Governments seem to regard homeopathy as benign. | Feb 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Heh. Oral B has decreased the prices of their electric toothbrushes, but slipped in a 25% price increase on the replacement heads. | Feb 01 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | time to balance the checkbook | Feb 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | pay off the credit card again and see how much I have left until payday | Feb 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Feb 01 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I used 356 GB of data last month | Feb 01 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Well, my cable internet bill is up to $75. | Feb 01 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | If they're going to charge me for it, I might as well get my money's worth. | Feb 01 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | The city is now charging $5 for every bag of trash past two bags. | Feb 01 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I pointed out to my mom that since they didn't specify what a "bag" meant, that she should get one of those 55 gallon trash cans and put that in her kitchen. | Feb 01 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | So she did. | Feb 01 23:41 |
| MinceR | we were forced into a trash management contract and we're forced to pay even if we don't live at that house and don't produce trash there | Feb 01 23:47 |
| MinceR | because this is hungary | Feb 01 23:48 |
| MinceR | asshole of europe | Feb 01 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Romney said he was frugal and in touch with American voters because he compacted his trash to save $5 a month and only uses gratis apps on his $800 iBad. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Perhaps he also has a toothpaste squeezer in his bathroom. The world might never know. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bet he got a great deal on his latest 11,000 square foot house, his several luxury cars, the car elevator... Maybe he even shops at Mens Wearhouse for his suits. You know that if you buy an $800 suite there, that sometimes they give you an extra one for only $100? | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bet he has plenty of tips for how people earning $8 an hour and no health insurance can live the high life. They just have to work even harder and eventually they'll "get what they deserve". | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, perhaps they will be working for $8.05 an hour this time next year if they behave. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | errr, suit | Feb 01 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should walk in there like Sean Connery in Highlander. | Feb 01 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | "The gentleman would like a suit of clothes!" | Feb 01 23:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | I think that it's ridiculous to spend a lot of money on clothes. | Feb 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I usually wear t-shirts that I got in packs of four for about $10 and some jeans from kmart. | Feb 01 23:57 |
| MinceR | especially such impractical ones (suits) | Feb 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in compliance with the laws that state that public nudity is a crime. | Feb 01 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why I should spend more than I have to. | Feb 01 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 01 23:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | yay, I'm on enlightement now | Jan 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427233874222280704 | Jan 26 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi25i ] | Jan 26 00:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427233874222280704 | Jan 26 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On Enlightenment (E17, first time in 12 years); works like a champ, despitefatal segmentation fault at first. Will try this for coming week. | Jan 26 00:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmpBD_MoeAw | Jan 26 00:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Bartłomiej Maślankiewicz -- Relacja z Kijowa 2014-01-22 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gi2bf ] | Jan 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | rysiek|pl: ^^ | Jan 26 00:51 |
| rysiek|pl | they say that supposedly snipers shoot live ammo at journalists | Jan 26 00:54 |
| rysiek|pl | *supposedly* | Jan 26 00:54 |
| rysiek|pl | that's 4 days ago | Jan 26 00:55 |
| rysiek|pl | old news | Jan 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557535 | Jan 26 00:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fame by wealth https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 26 00:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557532 | Jan 26 00:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa Intel(ligence) Inside https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1546415_783191791694849_369179649_n.jpg | Jan 26 00:58 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554066 | Jan 26 01:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When Bush does it they support it, when Obush does it they denounce it http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/republicans-call-for-halt-to-unconstitutional-surveillance-programs/ Republicans -- I don't understand!! | Jan 26 01:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Republicans call for halt to “unconstitutional surveillance programs” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ghu2v ] | Jan 26 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | "Well, the Democrats were all bent out of shape back in '05-'06 when Bush was doing it, but the Progressives are pretty quiet about it now. The devotion to party here in the US is astounding. It's like knifing someone for liking the wrong cola even though they both give you diabetes." | Jan 26 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427256669081726977 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427256809683165184 | Jan 26 01:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://t.co/OhqKzvmZG5 | Jan 26 01:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Obama's awkward moment http://t.co/RBMNJEthyV | Jan 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557640 | Jan 26 01:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/ancient-tablet-reveals-new-details-about-noah-ark-prototype/ | Jan 26 01:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "Not clicking that. Fuck that." | Jan 26 01:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Filed under the "science" section :-) | Jan 26 01:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "Of course it is Fox. facepalm" | Jan 26 01:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3553371 | Jan 26 01:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to a new poll, less than half of people think that Red Hat does NOT give the #nsa back doors in #linux http://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa/ | Jan 26 01:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Is Red Hat Working for the NSA? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/ght2o ] | Jan 26 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Link?" | Jan 26 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | On the page | Jan 26 01:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting | Jan 26 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features http://t.co/9J1pXPOvNA | Jan 26 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi2nj | Jan 26 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting Features | Tux Machines | Jan 26 01:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427258932273618944 | Jan 26 02:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting Features http://t.co/29zIpAD4Ja #linux #kernel | Jan 26 02:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] The Linux 3.14 Kernel Already Has Many Exciting Features | Jan 26 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More libraries switch to KOHA catalogue system | Jan 26 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xdFY5wuY6T | Jan 26 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi2w5 | Jan 26 02:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | More libraries switch to KOHA catalogue system | Tux Machines | Jan 26 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | This is the nastiest winter that I can remember. | Jan 26 03:58 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/mageia-4-and-more/ #mageia #pclinuxos #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jan 26 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi58z ] | Jan 26 09:36 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/note-3-users-samsung-disabled-unofficial-accessories-via-software-update/ | Jan 26 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ei ] | Jan 26 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS | Jan 26 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Still Very Much Alive http://t.co/8Tf9WW225v | Jan 26 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5ej | Jan 26 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:01 |
| Sosumi | another reason why I favor either vanilla android or open source android | Jan 26 10:07 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558213 | Jan 26 10:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/financial-apartheid/ | Jan 26 10:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi5il ] | Jan 26 10:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sosumi: yeah | Jan 26 10:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Samsung is evik | Jan 26 10:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Like Sony, just not as bad | Jan 26 10:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sony is deep in the MAFIAA and DRM business | Jan 26 10:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427385484684578816 | Jan 26 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update http://t.co/crqRCJAybD #samsung #ballnux | Jan 26 10:23 |
| Sosumi | sony actually went to the point of not even allowing audio cds on the ps4 | Jan 26 10:23 |
| Sosumi | in order to shove their music anywhere service | Jan 26 10:24 |
| Sosumi | also, no flac support | Jan 26 10:24 |
| iophk | ps3 was good until they pulled the ability to run Linux. | Jan 26 10:25 |
| iophk | ps4 ... meh | Jan 26 10:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558227 | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Geneva https://despora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_be50b013eab46aeede0d.jpg | Jan 26 10:25 |
| Sosumi | ps3 was ok | Jan 26 10:26 |
| iophk | It was heading a very good direction until they decided to reverse policy and block dual use. | Jan 26 10:27 |
| iophk | It would be interesting to find out the motivation for that move. | Jan 26 10:27 |
| Sosumi | but I think that the lack of gpu acceleration out of the box was kind dumb | Jan 26 10:27 |
| Sosumi | although folks were finding workarounds | Jan 26 10:27 |
| Sosumi | to a lesser extent, no ecc memory kind killed it for clustering | Jan 26 10:27 |
| Sosumi | although you could always use some error correcting algo | Jan 26 10:28 |
| Sosumi | but it was a cheap way to get access to the cell | Jan 26 10:29 |
| Sosumi | without overpaying for a cell computing board or rack | Jan 26 10:29 |
| Sosumi | and I'm all in for choice and options | Jan 26 10:29 |
| Sosumi | so shame on them | Jan 26 10:29 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554984 | Jan 26 10:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: keyboard pants... | Jan 26 10:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Spacebar! Ooooh yeah! Spacebar me now!" | Jan 26 10:31 |
| Sosumi | plus, were there any games on the ps3 that awarded a purchase of the system? | Jan 26 10:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557642 | Jan 26 10:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama's awkward moment http://cheezburger.com/7960577280 | Jan 26 10:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> cheezburger.com | That Awkward Moment When... - Cheezburger | Jan 26 10:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It's amazing how politicians can tell lies no matter how outrageous are." | Jan 26 10:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557640 | Jan 26 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/ancient-tablet-reveals-new-details-about-noah-ark-prototype/ | Jan 26 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.foxnews.com | Ancient tablet reveals new details about Noah's Ark prototype | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/gi1st ] | Jan 26 10:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The world is awash in a rising tide of stupid shit nowadays." | Jan 26 10:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The "like" is for the comment." | Jan 26 10:32 |
| Sosumi | because, outside of wipeout, there were any actually good games on the thing | Jan 26 10:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554983 | Jan 26 10:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bass https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_3b2264ee5d7a32814f1c.jpg | Jan 26 10:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It seems that assholes are everywhere, not only in banana republics like mine." | Jan 26 10:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554975 | Jan 26 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183 #utah #poverty | Jan 26 10:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Interesting." | Jan 26 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.nationofchange.org | Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes | NationofChange [ http://ur1.ca/gi5m5 ] | Jan 26 10:35 |
| Sosumi | same could be said about the xbox 2, outside of some republished games like rez hd (dreamcast), geometry wars and the ninja gaiden series (the ones done by itagaki)) | Jan 26 10:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556085 | Jan 26 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: On children's website, #NSA puts a furry, smiley face on its mission http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/on-children-s-website-nsa-puts-a-furry-smiley-face-on-its-mission-475262 (anti) "CryptoKids" | Jan 26 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ndtv.com | On children's website, NSA puts a furry, smiley face on its mission | NDTV.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi5m7 ] | Jan 26 10:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ""In the world of diplomacy, knowing what your enemy is planning helps you to prepare". So are they finally admitting that see the rest of the world as an enemy?" | Jan 26 10:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3549690 | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mac Asay deletes #chromebooks from history http://readwrite.com/2014/01/23/why-the-linux-desktop-never-mattered | Jan 26 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> readwrite.com | Why The Linux Desktop Doesn't Matter Anymore – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/ghl1m ] | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think he has something of a point, in that most users will just pick the option Dell/HP tell them to and doesn't involve any work to get it running. They look at linux and see something complicated they can't trust, windows is the soma of computing. | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That said, he's being a dick. He tied the whole thing to a sensationalist headline and completely ignored the fact that | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The linux desktop isn't irrelevant to the millions of people who use it | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It's growing | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Oh, and I feel so sorry for his friend Valerie if he advised her to switch to apple. I hope she didn't get scared away from trying new stuff just because of that." | Jan 26 10:37 |
| Sosumi | outside of those "exclusives" I fail to actually name games that are exclusive to those systems and that manage to be better of what we find on the pc | Jan 26 10:37 |
| Sosumi | and it isn't looking better on this gen | Jan 26 10:37 |
| Sosumi | with the introduction of touch games and motion junk with cameras | Jan 26 10:38 |
| Sosumi | and voice recognition | Jan 26 10:38 |
| Sosumi | which transmit all your data to the game publisher | Jan 26 10:38 |
| Sosumi | although the portable consoles kind of look nice | Jan 26 10:39 |
| Sosumi | you could just get an original psp | Jan 26 10:39 |
| Sosumi | and play games for cheap | Jan 26 10:39 |
| Sosumi | if you're into turn based strategy games and some nice platformers | Jan 26 10:40 |
| Sosumi | the disgaea series and the priny series are nice and can be bought dirt cheap on the second hand market | Jan 26 10:41 |
| Sosumi | also, don't we have Davos conference around now | Jan 26 10:42 |
| Sosumi | in which the failing oligarchs will be plotting to keep themselves afloat | Jan 26 10:43 |
| Sosumi | aka the survival of the unfit | Jan 26 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | accessories via software update | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oA3f4lE1rY | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5ng | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:44 |
| iophk | http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-10-2013-12.html | Jan 26 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report [ http://ur1.ca/gi5o0 ] | Jan 26 10:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @voidquest44 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via...' | Jan 26 10:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557087 | Jan 26 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Programmierer #Feindschaft bis in den Tod !?! | Jan 26 10:54 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: anything specific? | Jan 26 10:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "iophk: anything specific?bööse :)| | Jan 26 10:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556072 | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #gifs #police | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kasidy@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9491b4d89e81d0b905e4.gif | Jan 26 10:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "this explains so much in a nutshell, the first reaction of the jackboot is to destroy, to maim and to use violence, without logical reflection or reason" | Jan 26 10:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556073 | Jan 26 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Biggest Hole Dug by Hand # | Jan 26 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Fascinating. Simply fascinating." | Jan 26 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556087 | Jan 26 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Worse than Jobs: the man who added #apple to #nsa #prism http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/25/tim-cook-talks-nsa-secrecy-and-more-with-abc-news/ | Jan 26 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | “there is no back door. The government doesn’t have access to our servers. They would have to cart us out in box for that, and that will not happen.” | Jan 26 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ... And you don't believe Tim Cook? | Jan 26 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.gottabemobile.com | Tim Cook Talks NSA, Secrecy, and More with ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gi5q3 ] | Jan 26 10:57 |
| Sosumi | Tim Crook | Jan 26 10:57 |
| iophk | Nothing specific that I know of but it would be interesting to know what caused Sony to do an about face on allowing Linux. | Jan 26 10:58 |
| Sosumi | sony had also allowed linux on the ps2 | Jan 26 11:00 |
| Sosumi | to the point of even selling you a kit | Jan 26 11:00 |
| iophk | It was a selling point. | Jan 26 11:00 |
| Sosumi | I think that was directed to the japanese market | Jan 26 11:01 |
| Sosumi | in order to minimize the amount of occupied space at home | Jan 26 11:01 |
| Sosumi | since flats in japan tend to be quite small | Jan 26 11:01 |
| iophk | Only the large ones are small. The rest are much smaller. | Jan 26 11:02 |
| Sosumi | more like a house fit for gnome or hobbit | Jan 26 11:02 |
| Sosumi | and since most ppl in the end always end up having a laptop | Jan 26 11:02 |
| Sosumi | I think that was the idea behind that | Jan 26 11:03 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/26/swedish-public-television-claims-copyright-to-everybodys-sports-photos-if-posted-on-twitter/ | Jan 26 11:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | Swedish Public Television Claims Copyright Publication Rights To Everybody's Sports Photos If Posted On Twitter - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ra ] | Jan 26 11:03 |
| Sosumi | giving folks a small footprint computer | Jan 26 11:03 |
| Sosumi | that doubles as a console and bluray player | Jan 26 11:03 |
| Sosumi | well, triples | Jan 26 11:04 |
| iophk | basically 3 device in one | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | and a docking station for the psp | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | so 4 devices in one | Jan 26 11:04 |
| Sosumi | I actually bought a ps3 back in early 2009 | Jan 26 11:05 |
| Sosumi | in order to test cell | Jan 26 11:05 |
| Sosumi | ofc that I returned the console after that | Jan 26 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: wow | Jan 26 11:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | new low | Jan 26 11:06 |
| Sosumi | and from what I could tell, at least the powerpc core was as fast as the 1.8 g5 | Jan 26 11:06 |
| Sosumi | that crapple included on the base powermac g5 when they introduced the architecture | Jan 26 11:07 |
| Sosumi | and I couldn't get decent results from the SPEs | Jan 26 11:08 |
| Sosumi | but from my opinion, at that time | Jan 26 11:08 |
| Sosumi | you'd be better with one or more gtx 9800 | Jan 26 11:08 |
| Sosumi | new low? where? me buying the console? | Jan 26 11:09 |
| Sosumi | I had 15 days to test it out and then go back to the store and ask to be refunded | Jan 26 11:10 |
| Sosumi | so I got my 399€ back anyways | Jan 26 11:10 |
| Sosumi | and sony got a console to recondition in order to sell it back again as new | Jan 26 11:11 |
| iophk | schestowitz_bed2: there were some web hosting services that tried to take ownership of everything that was uploaded and published on their machines. I can't recall the name(s) right now, but I think they're not in business any more. | Jan 26 11:13 |
| iophk | It was more than a few years ago. | Jan 26 11:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427396958941368320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427398042946637824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427398518551351296 | Jan 26 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Your photos are not yours http://t.co/azRljpGamj | Jan 26 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Mississippi is now the tenth state to consider legislation to ban cooperation with #NSA http://t.co/NDrIVmPCFu up from six | Jan 26 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> offnow.org | Mississippi is now the tenth state to consider legislation to ban cooperation with NSA | Nullify NSA!Nullify NSA! | Jan 26 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "THE NEWS" ❂ JUICE RAP NEWS ❂ SEASON 2 EP 1 https://t.co/XM3i0K8fPA real news, with humour | Jan 26 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | "THE NEWS" ❂ JUICE RAP NEWS ❂ SEASON 2 EP 1 - YouTube | Jan 26 11:18 |
| iophk | I guess that kind of grab happens often still: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/12/18/facebook-to-instagram-users-all-your-photos-are-belong-to-us/ | Jan 26 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.marketwatch.com | Facebook to Instagram users: 'all your photos are belong to us' - The Tell - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/gi5u2 ] | Jan 26 11:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah | Jan 26 11:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about this, BUT... | Jan 26 11:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is about WHERE you upload to | Jan 26 11:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Not WHERE you take the photo | Jan 26 11:21 |
| iophk | good point | Jan 26 11:21 |
| iophk | twitter is just an inde | Jan 26 11:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Also, 5 or 6 years ago I read about some place with a tree where if you took a photo, they claimed to own the copyrights | Jan 26 11:21 |
| iophk | index | Jan 26 11:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | either way, there's a landgrab of copyrights | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | like all ownershi | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | see what I write this morning about Gates | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he now invests directly in oppression of protest | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and made 15 billion last year | Jan 26 11:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | my personal hero /sarcasm | Jan 26 11:23 |
| iophk | Until he starts handing out cash, it's just bluff and marketing no real philanthropy. | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | an afford to hire people with inside information | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | i.e. people who rig the markets | Jan 26 11:23 |
| iophk | But then maybe that's the point. | Jan 26 11:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | taking away from hopefuls who think that investment is a win to all | Jan 26 11:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | wait for ZDNet et al. to use that to smear Android | Jan 26 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VX0Hc9ciUO | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5v1 | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/EWp5hMwAKR | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5v2 | Jan 26 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427400720279957505 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427401773658042369 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427402691770593280 | Jan 26 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 http://t.co/IuyvMcerst #tizen is back then... #linux | Jan 26 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Muktware | Jan 26 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Windows is infecting #Android http://t.co/ilJzTb6pBR don't use Windows. | Jan 26 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | New malware uses Windows to infect Android devices | Muktware | Jan 26 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. http://t.co/WkB6aULPa8 #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jan 26 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.crazyengineers.com | Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | CrazyEngineers | Jan 26 11:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427403442794270721 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427403757601951744 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427405505116790784 | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Limitations in #e17 (Enlightenment) make me yearn for KDE4: can't resize windows with SHIFT+mouse, Kipper needed. Good side: RAM miracle! | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Latest Unity7 Update in #Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. http://t.co/pkAB7Px6BM #gnu #linux | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.crazyengineers.com | Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. | CrazyEngineers | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #drones with legs, wheels, etc. http://t.co/gLBCdpJDOo http://t.co/iNoMrX61ar http://t.co/Rn0AWrnllN | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slashgear.com | U.S. Army expects to replace a quarter of soldiers with robots by 2040 - SlashGear | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040 | Muktware | Jan 26 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.voanews.com | U.S. Army Envisions More Robotic Future | Jan 26 11:41 |
| iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Peace | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Forever Peace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gi5xb ] | Jan 26 11:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427406331281416192 | Jan 26 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Now that assassination by flying robots (based on #nsa kill lists) has been made "normal" by the corporate, war-loving media we move further | Jan 26 11:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427406831246651392 | Jan 26 11:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Remember that to the #nsa "undesirables" include journalists, whistleblowers, regulators, politicians, human rights groups, protesters | Jan 26 11:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427407188815282176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427407626411180033 | Jan 26 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: In #yemen the #obama administration helped the jailing of a journalist for daring to compete with US reporting (monopoly) on #drone strikes | Jan 26 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Jailing journalists and such not a novel concept (1990) http://t.co/gi27OepiwY Tocuhe! http://t.co/MCXQFDqJk5 | Jan 26 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> articles.chicagotribune.com | Ex-official: Cia Helped Jail Mandela - Chicago Tribune | Jan 26 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> abcnews.go.com | President Obama Poses for Selfie at Nelson Mandela's Memorial Service - ABC News | Jan 26 11:48 |
| iophk | http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/strong-majority-in-imco-voted-to-defend-net-neutrality/ | Jan 26 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | christianengstrom.wordpress.com | Strong majority in IMCO voted to defend net neutrality | Christian Engström, Pirate MEP [ http://ur1.ca/gi5z7 ] | Jan 26 11:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-h-open-is-closed-and-offline-heres.html | Jan 26 11:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... [ http://ur1.ca/gi5zg ] | Jan 26 11:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I contacted him and others yesterday | Jan 26 11:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but I only found out it had gone online because you told me | Jan 26 11:51 |
| iophk | It has a lot of valuable pages, it is of value to Heise and of negligible maintenance costs (I would expect) and it could probably be converted to static pages if the current software is too much trouble. | Jan 26 11:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, that too | Jan 26 11:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | instead thet try to bloster the ranking of their pro-MS and pro-Apple site | Jan 26 11:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Heise.de | Jan 26 11:54 |
| iophk | That may be the real motivation behind the closure: pound the M$ drum | Jan 26 11:56 |
| iophk | yay Bill! | Jan 26 11:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe they can ask Bill to support the publicatiomn, toe H | Jan 26 11:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Bill says he likes sharing | Jan 26 11:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The H is about sharing | Jan 26 11:57 |
| iophk | And about promoting IT. Bill says he likes promoting IT. | Jan 26 11:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe bill can cobble together some lamp server | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he's an uber-technical guy | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google idiot wrote this code eller bill gates | Jan 26 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Story of Steve Jobs: An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale? | Wired ... | http://www.wired.com/business/2012/07/ff_stevejobs/all/ | Jan 26 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates: 'I wrote Steve Jobs a letter as he was dying. He kept it by ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/9041726/Bill-Gates-I-wrote-Steve-Jobs-a-letter-as-he-was-dying.-He-kept-it-by-his-bed.html | Jan 26 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Secret Origin of Windows - Technologizer | http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/ | Jan 26 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gates Says Biden, Clinton Would Make Good Presidents | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gates-clinton-biden-good-presidents | Jan 26 11:58 |
| iophk | yeah he invented the Inernet and PCs and sliced bread ... | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | wow, Bill really googlebombed it out of existence | Jan 26 11:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | mjust hgave cost a fortune to dump all those puff pieces on high pagerank sites | Jan 26 11:59 |
| iophk | Google ranking is quite ephemeral especially where M$ can dump on it. | Jan 26 11:59 |
| iophk | During the last week or so, one or more of the links posted mentioned Sweden's Carl Bildt leading some kind of commission to investigate NSA surveillance and overreach. That's almost a conflict of interest given where he sits politically. | Jan 26 12:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/GatoPreto19/status/427409005086908416 | Jan 26 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @GatoPreto19: @schestowitz Reporting Truth means Jail or Kill-Lists, nowadays.. Or was it that way since ever.. | Jan 26 12:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but not in the US. It used to be China, Russia.... | Jan 26 12:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yes, I wrote about this Bildt nonsense | Jan 26 12:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he';s a friend of Rove | Jan 26 12:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And a hawk | Jan 26 12:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google bildt nigger is a nigger | Jan 26 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - “A nigger is a nigger and a Swede is a Swede”. Top leaders of ... | http://professorsblogg.com/2013/12/08/a_niggera_swede/ | Jan 26 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bildt's Party & Mandela's Darkies | Rixstep Industry Watch | http://rixstep.com/1/20131210,00.shtml | Jan 26 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Twitter / wikileaks: “A nigger is a nigger and ... | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/409794738179436544 | Jan 26 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - “A Swede is a Swede & a Jew is a Jew”, says Carl Bildt. Analysing ... | http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-swede-is-swede-jew-is-jew-says-carl.html | Jan 26 12:02 |
| iophk | Yes, he will go through the motions and conclude that there is not enough surveillance. | Jan 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ah, wouldn't that be awesome for his mates? | Jan 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't even think about it like that | Jan 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I just said it was comical and a PR attempt | Jan 26 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427409054768824321 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427410763238891520 | Jan 26 12:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Finally it seems like people such as @glynmoody plan the use of #copyrights wisely http://t.co/zTPld4vSVp everyone should do this | Jan 26 12:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... | Jan 26 12:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Is Still Sour For Some GPUs http://t.co/7KHw7Bdj62 #nvidia no good, def. not when it comes to freedom | Jan 26 12:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Is Still Sour For Some GPUs | Jan 26 12:04 |
| iophk | Some of the Swedish blog headlines translate to the goat being appointed head gardner or the the fox being appointed to watch the hen house and similar | Jan 26 12:04 |
| iophk | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/piratpartiet/pressreleases/loejevaeckande-att-carl-bildt-faatt-uppdraget-att-leda-internationell-kommission-foer-naetfrihet-951870 | Jan 26 12:05 |
| iophk | "Carl Bildt is potentially one of the least suitable people to lead efforts to chart the way for a freer and safer Internet for users" | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/gi627 ] | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What | Jan 26 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | I Aim to Do... http://t.co/vdwN1rDWtu | Jan 26 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi63b | Jan 26 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427413741521883136 | Jan 26 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama http://t.co/Eq26fQk0GI #fedora #gnu #linux #redhat | Jan 26 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Jan 26 12:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427415989211656192 | Jan 26 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Europe's Highest Court Says DRM Circumvention May Be Lawful In Certain Circumstances http://t.co/bek5MUAtFA #drm #copyright | Jan 26 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | Europe's Highest Court Says DRM Circumvention May Be Lawful In Certain Circumstances | Techdirt | Jan 26 12:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427416759411691520 | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The claim that #bildt will "investigate" the #nsa seems like a PR ploy, possibly designed to help "find" that NSA actions are "lawful" | Jan 26 12:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will look at some NSA news now | Jan 26 12:24 |
| iophk | Which politicians or investigating politicians own, own stock in or have friends in companies that make money off of NSA surveillance? | Jan 26 12:25 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427417831467405312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427417376460898305 | Jan 26 12:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Rich people: people are poor because they're lazy; Poor people, indoctrinated by rich people-owned media: I just need to work harder. | Jan 26 12:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Back when I was in #davos it was known for skiing and calm. Now it's associated with white-collar crime http://t.co/W9NIFa34xF | Jan 26 12:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> roarmag.org | State of Power 2014: Exposing the Davos Class | ROAR Magazine | Jan 26 12:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427418748291932160 | Jan 26 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #WEF held in #Davos so that the thieves can go check their bank accounts while they're traveling to "talk about poverty" in private jets. | Jan 26 12:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427419220067246081 | Jan 26 12:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Global warning is a problem, said man with a private jet, speaking about "giving" while hoarding additional $15.8bn http://t.co/dLfR4EcpTK | Jan 26 12:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution | Techrights | Jan 26 12:34 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | LOL | Jan 26 12:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Rep. Peter King on Saturday blasted a new resolution from the Republican National Committee concerning the National Security Agency," | Jan 26 12:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'King | Jan 26 12:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google peter kind wikileaks | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist ... | http://observer.com/2010/11/peter-king-on-why-wikileaks-should-be-declared-a-terrorist-organization-video/ | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rep. Peter King: Prosecute WikiLeaks, Julian Assange - Jennifer ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45667.html | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Peter King: Declare Wikileaks A Terrorist Organization | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/peter-king-declare-wikileaks-a-terrorist-organization | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - WikiLeaks Is A Terror Outfit: Rep. Peter King : It's All Politics : NPR | http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/11/29/131664547/wikileaks-is-a-terror-outfit-rep-peter-king | Jan 26 12:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google peter king wikileaks | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist ... | http://observer.com/2010/11/peter-king-on-why-wikileaks-should-be-declared-a-terrorist-organization-video/ | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rep. Peter King: Prosecute WikiLeaks, Julian Assange - Jennifer ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45667.html | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - WikiLeaks Is A Terror Outfit: Rep. Peter King : It's All Politics : NPR | http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/11/29/131664547/wikileaks-is-a-terror-outfit-rep-peter-king | Jan 26 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20023941-38.html | Jan 26 12:39 |
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| iophk | "Besides Bildt chaired we find in the group Michael Chertoff. He worked for George W. Bush in the U.S. Homeland Security and was one of the brains behind the Patriot Act. A brilliant name to protect the right to freedom and privacy online - from the NSA's perspective. Another is Sir David Omand. He was previously head of GCHQ. " | Jan 26 12:44 |
| iophk | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://motpol.blogspot.se/2014/01/bildt-utreder-internets-framtid-nsa.html | Jan 26 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/gi6a0 ] | Jan 26 12:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427419804786769920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427420165253640193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427420297843965952 | Jan 26 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa executives and facilitators should be trialled for #espionage http://t.co/m6W6t073RI http://t.co/nSZnxs426w http://t.co/CfHy9D8UxD | Jan 26 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dw.de | Snowden NSA economic espionage claim broadcast as teaser to first TV interview | News | DW.DE | 26.01.2014 | Jan 26 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.scmp.com | NSA also serves economic interests: Snowden interview | South China Morning Post | Jan 26 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NO TITLE | Jan 26 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Tim Cook, who let the #nsa get access through #prism , says #NSA doesn't have "back door access" to Apple servers. #liar #timcook #apple | Jan 26 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: In a way, Tim Cook is correct; there are no back doors, none are needed. #apple is just granting the #nsa physical, free access to data. | Jan 26 12:46 |
| iophk | front-door access then | Jan 26 12:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427421795135021056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427421639169835008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427422011506577408 | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Get 'em while they're young," they say... http://t.co/wCmJ5sSsit | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> io9.com | The NSA's website for kids isn't creepy. Nope. Not creepy at all. | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "send an e-mail without worrying what it will look like on their permanent record." http://t.co/LcZBo7jdO9 #nsa | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.maximumpc.com | Edward Snowden Elaborates on NSA, Spying | Maximum PC | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hawk for #nsa shows no signs of abolishing. #CIA Post: "White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden declined to comment" http://t.co/cILobCdAEK | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.washingtonpost.com | Obama signs off on nomination of Rogers as NSA director - The Washington Post | Jan 26 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Jan 26 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GA8iWJe4I1 | Jan 26 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6c6 | Jan 26 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423208107933696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423312177029120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423755984723970 | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: You know we're seriously *ed when tech executives say to us there's no back door simply because NSA is secretly using front door (collusion) | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Crushing people's morale https://t.co/tPiIDRetFy | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Aldous Huxley saw it coming https://t.co/LXftL8yUOT | Jan 26 12:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427424428914642944 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427424899637194752 | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa is all about business, serving the oligarchs who own and control the nation http://t.co/Jv5w7dDrlN http://t.co/V4p7CDctEI | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.expatica.com | NSA also serves economic interests: Snowden interview < German news | Expatica Germany | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.sbs.com.au | NSA serves economic interests: Snowden | SBS News | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Death squads have assassinated eight trade union leaders in Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia." http://t.co/BGQwMVxO5u | Jan 26 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thirdworldtraveler.com | Stop Killer Coke! Death squads have assassinated eight trade union leaders in Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia. The Stop Killer Coke campaign holds the beverage giant responsible. | Jan 26 12:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427426087879319552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427426648418701312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427427455876755456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427427859909865472 | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Politico continues to give a platform to radicals http://t.co/5SLVKJzkyr whatever gives them hits | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.politico.com | Peter King slams RNC on NSA resolution - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "As it tries to protect us from the “bad guys,” the government has become more intrusive in our lives." http://t.co/yz4Ud9FkyL | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.aberdeennews.com | Letter: NSA tramples freedoms - AberdeenNews.com: Letters | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why is it always ABC (clue: conflict of interest) that's whitewashing #apple abuses? Not even a pretense of independence in media anymore. | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #cellphones : people "line up at stores to pay for the latest model of these monitoring devices." http://t.co/pM3ozDENaa | Jan 26 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Diary: My NSA Nightmare Last Night | OpEdNews | Jan 26 13:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427428742559195136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427428929432219650 | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How Many People Have Died in 5 Years of [Obama|NSA|CIA] #Drone Wars? ~2400 http://t.co/Vhw4uqF8ot http://t.co/jvttWgRBxt | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.policymic.com | How Many People Have Died in 5 Years of Drone Wars? - PolicyMic | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> english.farsnews.com | Farsnews | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Two former US officials criticize #drone war http://t.co/I4S1twFErQ "military general and another top counter-terrorism advisor" | Jan 26 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.nation.lk | nation.lk ::: - Two former US officials criticize drone war | Jan 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427430034866204672 | Jan 26 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "prosecutors are preparing to investigate allegations that #CIA ran secret detention camps in the county's forests" http://t.co/ruNR4FHb4R | Jan 26 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.worldbulletin.net | Poland to probe secret CIA prisons | Europe | World Bulletin | Jan 26 13:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427431180003450880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427431702630510592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427432212037124096 | Jan 26 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies https://t.co/3ZPLKp19YC #germany #ebergy | Jan 26 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> beyondrevolution.wordpress.com | Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies | Beyond Revolution | Jan 26 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: There are people who would work 60 hours per week for oligarchs and not spend one minute reading criticism, let alone attend a protest. | Jan 26 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Neo-Feudalism a taboo https://t.co/8uDWXatbOS | Jan 26 13:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558780 | Jan 26 13:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are people who would work 60 hours per week for oligarchs and not spend one minute reading criticism, let alone attend a protest. | Jan 26 13:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They can't even walk their dogs: https://pod.orkz.net/posts/898859 " | Jan 26 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | pod.orkz.net | ### #WTF?? | Jan 26 13:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427434549925404672 | Jan 26 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Definitely NOT to be used: hardware-level crypto (i.e. cryptic algo) in #amd #linux http://t.co/eq6Ng9ncsz avoid, it's a US company. #nsa | Jan 26 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Linux 3.14 Supports AMD's Cryptographic Coprocessor | Jan 26 13:42 |
| iophk | forgetting the illegal per-processor fees they had to compete against: | Jan 26 13:45 |
| iophk | http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mac-pioneers-lauded-as-apple-celebrates-30-years-of-macintosh-computers/story-fnjwukfu-1226810909050 | Jan 26 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.news.com.au | Mac pioneers lauded as Apple celebrates 30 years of Macintosh computers | News.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/gi6mt ] | Jan 26 13:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427438098507898880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427438687560138752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427439060723204096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427439410758840320 | Jan 26 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "It's alarming that few girls or students of color are taking computer science classes." http://t.co/v39T4CWD03 | Jan 26 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.motherjones.com | America's Coming Geek Gap | Mother Jones | Jan 26 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #linuxfoundation is trying hard to paint #linux development as multi-cultural and sex-agnostic. Commendable marketing, but unrealistic. | Jan 26 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Foes of FOSS have for a long time tried to portray FOSS as causing the gender gap (in CS). This has become a good way to identify FOSS foes. | Jan 26 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: It is widely known that the #cia traditionally used "human rights", "racism", and "women's rights" to justify (to public) economic coups | Jan 26 13:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427439254218616832 | Jan 26 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz there's a lot more women in proprietary dev than open source. those are the numbers. | Jan 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If the difference is 5% versus, say, 15%, then it's not so statistically significant. I heard this argument before. | Jan 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Negative discrimination plays a role in it. That is, contrary to the usual claims, companies often hire women for "balance" | Jan 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427441470082002944 | Jan 26 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz show me substantiation for this claim | Jan 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | personal stories; for statistical substantiation, someone will need to fund super controversial study | Jan 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427441674613039105 | Jan 26 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz it's 1% versus 15%. there is actually a problem. burying your head in the sand is avoidant behaviour. | Jan 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 1% for KDE maybe. Very different in FOSS companies, which also include various roles. | Jan 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I work for a FOSS company where about half the staff is female, inc. technical roles | Jan 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/unclepete_100/status/427442206429810688 | Jan 26 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @unclepete_100: @schestowitz Quelle surprise. | Jan 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427441800824258560 | Jan 26 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Digital footprints (spurious and unwanted), such as "utm_source=feedburner", show the infinite greed for offline #surveillance too | Jan 26 14:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558815 | Jan 26 14:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Definitely NOT to be used: hardware-level crypto (i.e. cryptic algo) in #amd #linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4MTM avoid, it's a US company. #nsa | Jan 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "what do you use?" | Jan 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One should use FOSS and not offload computation such as this to the co-processor | Jan 26 14:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427444277267169280 | Jan 26 14:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fast and loose with the term "Insider Trading" which is a crime http://t.co/jmtZ0h5HUG that's how some plutocrats get richer | Jan 26 14:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.fxnewscall.com | Recent Insider Trading: Facebook Inc (FB), Intel , Questcor, Red Hat, Texas Instruments, Verizon Communications | FX News Call | Jan 26 14:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New malware uses Windows to infect Android | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | devices http://t.co/6wc3lK0eXX | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6ta | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pwnium hackathon: Google offers over $2 million | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in rewards http://t.co/XqyohYixZv | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6tb | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | New malware uses Windows to infect Android devices | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Pwnium hackathon: Google offers over $2 million in rewards | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support. http://t.co/TmSTh5R04U | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6tc | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for RAW Images http://t.co/6DEN8Miw1B | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6td | Jan 26 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:21 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jan 26 14:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 26 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 26 14:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | TV is the appeal for others to find for you what you might find entertaining, usually because one cannot entertain oneself | Jan 26 14:36 |
| MinceR | dunno, i watch more tv programs on the web than on the tv :> | Jan 26 14:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427448000856989696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427448683442208769 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427449324810022912 | Jan 26 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Reading as an 'app' https://t.co/kZ7ftBia5W | Jan 26 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: CNN, after firing journalists in droves, warns #twitter and #facebook http://t.co/SCKsfgk8k4 | Jan 26 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Why Twitter should watch its back - CNN.com | Jan 26 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Google is watching you, with the help of fools who pay top bucks for #CCTV equipment http://t.co/wm3mRKJPsY | Jan 26 14:38 |
| Sosumi | pict of the day | Jan 26 14:57 |
| Sosumi | http://rense.com/1.imagesH/TPP-(R).jpg | Jan 26 14:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://rense.com/1.imagesH/TPP-(R ) | Jan 26 14:57 |
| Sosumi | TPPzila | Jan 26 14:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I see they've inserted some conpiracy theories into it | Jan 26 15:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559069 | Jan 26 15:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @kelvinpittman@diasp.org: via @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} | Jan 26 15:04 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427457806342828032 | Jan 26 15:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Discussion and education, one person at a time https://t.co/ozaBFyw3wH | Jan 26 15:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427458610483191809 | Jan 26 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Even the US government won't use US phones http://t.co/UIw3cfPZRj US phones have back doors. | Jan 26 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> chycho.blogspot.ca | chycho: The Irony and the Hypocrisy, the U.S. Department of Defense Is Using Blackberry for Its Privacy (Update on The Surveillance State) | Jan 26 15:14 |
| *iophk (~iophk@unaffiliated/iophk) has joined #techrights | Jan 26 15:24 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to iophk | Jan 26 15:24 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427461069385510912 | Jan 26 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Shortly after #billgates started to bribe 'guardian' it became very Google-hostile, even when #microsoft does worse http://t.co/MTnBKlgl7L | Jan 26 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Why Google Android software is not as free or open-source as you may think | Technology | theguardian.com | Jan 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Charles Arhur again | Jan 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427461734769901569 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427462091461914624 | Jan 26 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images http://t.co/rlv81x5jzs #gnome #gnu #linux #software | Jan 26 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images | Jan 26 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/I56cZVFwp7 uber benchmark. #linux #phoronix | Jan 26 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Jan 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427463381059383296 | Jan 26 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hacking Open the Data Center http://t.co/hR8Kw0qmqS #sharing | Jan 26 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> recode.net | Hacking Open the Data Center | Re/code | Jan 26 15:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's good to see phoronic returning to hardware science and journalism as opposed to gossip and personalities cult | Jan 26 15:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427465711695724544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466205407240192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466760242352128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466940672933888 | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa #dropbox is worth a lot of money, but to who? http://t.co/mToB2X2YoG #datahoarding #marketing #prism #masssurveillance #surveillance | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.wsj.com | The Morning Download: Dropbox’s $10 Billion Valuation Shows Pull of Consumerization - The CIO Report - WSJ | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA: Monetising/extorting millions of fools who upload their data to some remote (in US) server and take cameras (phones) to their bathroom | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The best alternative for #dropbox is called "hard drive" (it's this thing you put in your machine), not #nsa traps: http://t.co/ImeMYqSYb6 | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.cbronline.com | 5 Dropbox alternatives for the small business - Computer Business Review | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "According to a new report by Splashdata, the most common password in 2013 was “123456”" http://t.co/uP9fKfNx99 | Jan 26 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gulfnews.com | ‘Password’ no longer the Internet’s worst password | GulfNews.com | Jan 26 15:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/24/twitter-box-dropbox-attracting-hordes-of-employees-away-from-tech-giants/ | Jan 26 15:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | venturebeat.com | Twitter, Box, and Dropbox attracting hordes of employees away from tech giants | VentureBeat | Business | by Rebecca Grant [ http://ur1.ca/gi78d ] | Jan 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427468352614064128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427468904827723776 | Jan 26 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #outage at #nsa #dropbox "was caused by internal maintenance," according to DropBox. Setting up more doors for NSA? http://t.co/L99zQJZ2qa | Jan 26 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wired.co.uk | Hackers claim responsibility for Dropbox outage (Wired UK) | Jan 26 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "US Investigative Journalist Michael Hastings told an incredible story when he returned from his 2010 trip" http://t.co/gDdNLAUf1M | Jan 26 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | How economic warfare killed the People's Bank — RT Op-Edge | Jan 26 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Comparison http://t.co/PrfhBxIFoV | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi798 | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking Open the Data Center | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IVfROTDbSd | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi799 | Jan 26 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Hacking Open the Data Center | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470039886086144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470376734433281 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470698979004416 | Jan 26 15:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hidden ownership (also of the corporate media, as a World Bank whistleblower explained last year) https://t.co/Oo9LOVOLqk | Jan 26 15:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Science "another religion" response https://t.co/cPkNizwPxA | Jan 26 15:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #FBI priorities http://t.co/AfXhH7zr9y | Jan 26 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Why is Jobs overlaid on top of the British flag? That disgraceful sociopath was not British. | Jan 26 16:00 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: what search engine would you recommend? | Jan 26 16:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | none at the moment | Jan 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ixquick sold out | Jan 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and I don't know what to use anymore | Jan 26 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427474506333306880 | Jan 26 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: New Screenshots Galleries http://t.co/n0U2JExn5E :Instructionals http://t.co/b5lwS0KsEz : Games http://t.co/FyZEuNUu70 | Jan 26 16:15 |
| XFaCE | there's always that p2p one | Jan 26 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | New Screenshots Galleries | Techrights | Jan 26 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 26/1/2014: Instructionals | Techrights | Jan 26 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 26/1/2014: Games | Techrights | Jan 26 16:15 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: how did they sell out exactly? | Jan 26 16:15 |
| XFaCE | I missed the tweet/article | Jan 26 16:15 |
| XFaCE | or rather I can't remember what it said | Jan 26 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they signed up with Google last year | Jan 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | AdSense and stuff | Jan 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they also opened an office and server side in the US | Jan 26 16:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So it is no longer a Dutch thing, and the government can force them to hand over users' dara | Jan 26 16:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *data | Jan 26 16:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/mageia-4-and-more/ #mageia #pclinuxos #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jan 26 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi58z ] | Jan 26 16:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Tanx Roy, I have just installed mageia 3 in my nephew's laptop, an old Dell precision notebook, so I'm not happy to view this fast upgrade trend. In my opinion the cycles release could be more time long. One or one and half year are too much short. Ok the Mageia is a cutting-edge distribution but I like a more LTS version. Bye the way Mageia rulezzz :)" | Jan 26 16:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427478182963720192 | Jan 26 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hear, see, speak https://t.co/GIHs7kz5Og | Jan 26 16:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://blog.tenstral.net/2014/01/next-stop-fosdem14.html | Jan 26 16:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blog.tenstral.net | Ximion's Blog » Blog Archive » Next stop: FOSDEM’14 [ http://ur1.ca/gi7if ] | Jan 26 16:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427479291581190144 | Jan 26 16:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Making #apple even angrier at #android http://t.co/hxl6jYJeHj | Jan 26 16:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.junauza.com | How to Give your Android Smartphone the iOS 7 Look | TechSource | Jan 26 16:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/Z0hNUuGYhj | Jan 26 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7ku | Jan 26 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/iHw2HPJ53o | Jan 26 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/7hwHAvTyZc | Jan 26 16:42 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Jan 26 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 26 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 26 16:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427482413678493696 | Jan 26 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Interview: Linus #Torvalds - "I don't read code any more" http://t.co/sPb2M37DZd reposted, still interesting | Jan 26 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: Interview: Linus Torvalds - "I don't read code any more" | Jan 26 16:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/01/25/military-industrial-complex-needs-al-qaeda-best-enemy-money-can-buy/ | Jan 26 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dcclothesline.com | Why the Military Industrial Complex Needs Al-Qaeda, the Best Enemy Money Can Buy | [ http://ur1.ca/gi7lx ] | Jan 26 16:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'When Ted Cruz infamously warned against the U.S. acting as “Al-Qaeda’s air force,” he was referring to White House support for rebel jihadists in Syria, the most effective of whom represent groups like ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra." | Jan 26 16:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Lost up north https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_9adbe3bbc6fbf53a9818.gif | Jan 26 17:00 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7951101440 | Jan 26 17:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | Obama Wants to Give Your Toys to Other Kids - Cheezburger | Jan 26 17:02 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7950557184 | Jan 26 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | What the Government Thinks of Citizens Who Want Their Privacy - Cheezburger | Jan 26 17:05 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/edward-snowden-nsa-industrial-sabotage | Jan 26 17:07 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/26/snowden-nsa_n_4668661.html | Jan 26 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | German TV: Edward Snowden says NSA is involved in industrial sabotage | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi7q7 ] | Jan 26 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | German TV: Snowden Says NSA Also Spies On Industry [ http://ur1.ca/gi7q8 ] | Jan 26 17:07 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427488442441027584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427488920495198208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427489392081788928 | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "leaders want to officially state their displeasure with federal military policy during the “war on..."" (dissent) http://t.co/cohdVpEzwg | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> americanfreepress.net | States Say “Stop” to NDAA | American Free Press | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ndaa Nullification "Trend Is Spreading" http://t.co/jJvnqAmunP "nullify unconstitutional acts of the federal government." | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.thenewamerican.com | Wall Street Journal Takes Notice: Nullification "Trend Is Spreading" | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ndaa = "presidential authority, to arrest, kidnap, detain without trial and hold indefinitely American citizens" http://t.co/23Xg3jUmIL | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.libertynewsonline.com | THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT - HAS CONGRESS GRANTED OBAMA FREE REIN TO INSTITUTE MARTIAL LAW? | Jan 26 17:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427490328149778432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427490769185042432 | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: British MPs demand scrutiny of US military bases amid spying reports http://t.co/C3qVohSPvA based that help maim and kill | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | British MPs demand scrutiny of US military bases amid spying reports — RT News | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #cia did not give #Karzai ENOUGH black bags full of cash http://t.co/rRNyjMUhe6 #drones #assassination | Jan 26 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> tribune.com.pk | Karzai to US: Start talks with Taliban or leave – The Express Tribune | Jan 26 17:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 17:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "One and half year is not enough for me. If I Installed mageia3 3 month late and I don't want the risk to have a not supported O.S., I have only one year of true use of mageia. I must to upgrade some months in advance because: * buy new hardware (HD, SSD) * have time to upgrade * buy flash memory for safety backup * have time to set-up the new DE (Desktop environment) if is a new installation (/home preserved) * ecc ecc usually I | Jan 26 17:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | have both the old mageia and the new because the troubles with the hardware and software often occurs." | Jan 26 17:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Mageia is the best distribution for me, I'm a Mageia supporter so I criticize It ;)" | Jan 26 17:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ' | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Google's been doing an awfully good job of generating its own home-grown hostility. | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | From 1998 to about 2005, I was overwhelmingly supportive of the company. | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | With the release of Gmail, I started to have my concerns. It's a good product, but handing my search and email data to the same company calls for a huge investment of trust. | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Over the 2.5 years I've watched Google+ play out and develop, my attitude has turned sharply negative. The company's behavior cannot simply be seen as benign, as I've noted, even with the best of intentions, [Google cannot protect its users against a nation-sized advanced persistent threat. | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And I'm no longer convinced in the least Google has the best of intentions. | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Search + mail + phone + Nest .... | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Really, the uncanny valley of creepiness has been well and truly entered. | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 17:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1u356d/schmidt_my_biggest_mistake_is_still_not_realizing/ | Jan 26 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.reddit.com | Schmidt: My biggest mistake is still not realizing my biggest mistake : dredmorbius [ http://ur1.ca/gi7ua ] | Jan 26 17:27 |
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| roy_ | hey | Jan 26 19:41 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427521400316764160 | Jan 26 19:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz @glynmoody how extremely annoying | Jan 26 19:42 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559561 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559675 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559946 | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Patents Roundup: SCOTUS, Qualcomm, and ‘Beneficial’ ‘Innovations’ (Patent Troll) http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/scotus-qualcomm/ #scotus #swpats #foss #linux | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Patents Roundup: SCOTUS, Qualcomm, and ‘Beneficial’ ‘Innovations’ (Patent Troll) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m1 ] | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bringing #TheH Open/H-Online Articles Back Online Without Help From #Heise http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/against-heise-deletionism/ hopefully, others can follow @glynmoody | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Bringing The H Open/H-Online Articles Back Online Without Help From Heise | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m2 ] | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m4 ] | Jan 26 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/iVrUbYaRqs | Jan 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi8rw | Jan 26 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:02 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427532194048139264 | Jan 26 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Today in Techrights http://t.co/zFVoxR4Dwv #techrights | Jan 26 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:03 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560035 | Jan 26 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Conclusion of the day re #e17 : plasma-desktop (KDE4) can be run under Enlightenment but it's windowed and klipper still not supported | Jan 26 20:12 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/427527032713383936 | Jan 26 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @EllieAsksWhy: @davidgerard Articles were to remain accessible! I didn't know you read H-Online. I liked the fora, only read though, shy @schestowitz | Jan 26 20:14 |
| iophk | Is there a good link to a promise to keep The H articles online? Or was that on the H site itself? | Jan 26 20:15 |
| roy_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546218/Birds-released-Vatican-gesture-peace-immediately-attacked-vicious-seagull-crow.html | Jan 26 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | Doves released in the Vatican are immediately attacked by seagull and crow | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gi8up ] | Jan 26 20:18 |
| roy_ | On The H | Jan 26 20:18 |
| roy_ | dj said so | Jan 26 20:18 |
| iophk | Was it more advertising money from M$ which motivated them to pull the plug? | Jan 26 20:19 |
| iophk | http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-why-it-s-the-third-gaming-platform-1214797 | Jan 26 20:33 |
| iophk | PS4 ? | Jan 26 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 26 20:33 |
| MinceR | the article claims that's linux-based | Jan 26 20:34 |
| iophk | Yeah, it looked that way. | Jan 26 20:35 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/streaming-comes-to-steam-run-on-your-gaming-rig-play-on-your-laptop/ | Jan 26 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Streaming comes to Steam: run on your gaming rig, play on your laptop | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi8xh ] | Jan 26 20:35 |
| iophk | Maybe using the M$ definition where all non-M$ stuff is "linux" | Jan 26 20:35 |
| Sosumi | awesome and works on linux too | Jan 26 20:35 |
| Sosumi | and it is local streaming | Jan 26 20:37 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 26 21:43 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560044 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560050 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560062 | Jan 26 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How To See All The Companies That Are Tracking You On Facebook — And Block Them | Jan 26 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessinsider.com | See All The Companies That Are Tracking You On Facebook — And Block Them - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gi9hi ] | Jan 26 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ARD - Interview mit Edward Snowden 26 01 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alxpfco7Bq4 #abc acts as though it's surprised | Jan 26 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | ARD - Interview mit Edward Snowden 26 01 2014 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gi8qt ] | Jan 26 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's time to stop investing in the fossil fuel industry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/30/fossil-fuel-divestment-climate-change IMG: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_d7ae1605d41e6f99b0af.jpg | Jan 26 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | It's time to stop investing in the fossil fuel industry | Bill McKibben | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi9hn ] | Jan 26 22:12 |
| roy_ | https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427567466727100417 https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568159349301248 https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568423925972993 | Jan 26 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r7 ] | Jan 26 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r8 ] | Jan 26 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r9 ] | Jan 26 22:27 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427567466727100417 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568159349301248 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568423925972993 | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell http://t.co/jBav1Gws6x #ibm #nsa | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell | Techrights | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA director https://t.co/Uw8CrYLJgo | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Saving world https://t.co/FvGDukbwlL | Jan 26 22:28 |
| roy_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1661855_281042458715294_1051054185_n.jpg | Jan 26 22:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are | Jan 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a Company’s Death Knell http://t.co/fC3YgHFT1H | Jan 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giafb | Jan 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy | Jan 26 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in the living room' http://t.co/XD804BptZ5 | Jan 26 23:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell | Tux Machines | Jan 26 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giafc | Jan 26 23:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' | Tux Machines | Jan 26 23:17 |
| roy_ | http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/shelves_and_gadgets.html | Jan 26 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bodhilinux.com | Bodhi Guide to Enlightenment - Shelves and Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/giafm ] | Jan 26 23:19 |
| roy_ | http://e17-stuff.org/ | Jan 26 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | e17-stuff.org | Everything for your Enlightenment Desktop - E17-Stuff.org | Jan 26 23:19 |
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| roy_ | wow | Jan 26 23:44 |
| roy_ | I think elive being non-free led to this: http://e17-stuff.org/groups/?id=271 | Jan 26 23:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | e17-stuff.org | Group E17-Stuff.org | Jan 26 23:44 |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560650 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560649 | Jan 27 00:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/62964 #steam #gnu #linux | Jan 27 00:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' | Tux Machines | Jan 27 00:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: While experimenting with gadgets, themes, extensions for Enlightenment I found this group, maybe ELive-associated http://e17-stuff.org/groups/?id=271 | Jan 27 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm so mad right now. | Jan 27 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Somehow, Facebook posted a timeline update with a picture that my bf posted of his ex last year before he met me. | Jan 27 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | and it flagged it as a new post | Jan 27 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | So I called him and screamed at him, and then he had no idea what I was angry about. | Jan 27 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing good ever comes from Facebook. | Jan 27 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering switching back to Kubuntu. I've used Fedora for a little over a year. | Jan 27 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | The 14.04 LTS will have components that are new enough to do everything I want to do. | Jan 27 03:07 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gawker.com/coca-cola-wants-to-share-a-coke-but-not-with-gay-peopl-1509595122?rev=1390796154 | Jan 27 04:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gawker.com | Coca-Cola Wants to Share a Coke, But Not With Gay People [ http://ur1.ca/gic5l ] | Jan 27 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Coke much anyway. | Jan 27 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | When I go out to eat these days, I get water. | Jan 27 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | The price of Coke products at restaurants has gotten so bad that it can add $3 to your bill for each person. | Jan 27 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | Tim and I just get water when we go out for dinner. | Jan 27 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | I had a waiter at Applebees try to bring me a "Dasani" bottled water and charge me $2 for it. | Jan 27 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "No, that's not what I wanted. I wanted tap water. | Jan 27 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | So now I specify "tap water". | Jan 27 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | Who pays $2 for a 20 ounce bottle of water? | Jan 27 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | Tim needs new tires. His rear tires are worn down so bad that they're bald. He had one go flat so I put some tire slime in it and reinflated it. | Jan 27 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | You don't want to do that to a tire that has lots of tread left on it, because then nobody will patch it. | Jan 27 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | But the tire is basically finished and he just needs to get around for a few more days on it. | Jan 27 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | I run mine down until they're bald too, unless it's winter. | Jan 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Tires have really gotten expensive, because the federal government is imposing import tariffs on them now. | Jan 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | A $55 tire in 2007 is now an $85 tire. :P | Jan 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | So if you can run them for a few more months, it makes sense to do that. | Jan 27 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/651531-fiber-one-bars-good-or-bad-4-u | Jan 27 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.myfitnesspal.com | Fiber one bars...good or bad 4 u? | MyFitnessPal.com [ http://ur1.ca/gic88 ] | Jan 27 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | Fiber bars remind me of that "bad gas explosion" question on that IQ test. | Jan 27 04:46 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gawker.com/evil-triumphs-satanic-birds-attack-popes-peace-doves-1509242394 | Jan 27 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gawker.com | Evil Triumphs: Satanic Birds Attack Pope's Peace Doves [ http://ur1.ca/giczz ] | Jan 27 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jan 27 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR will like that. | Jan 27 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | "The children were young, impressionable, and are now likely ruined." | Jan 27 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | And that was just from being raped by the priests before seeing the birds attacked. | Jan 27 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 27 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1521936_10153756588540486_1597010073_n.jpg | Jan 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://readwrite.com/2014/01/23/why-the-linux-desktop-never-mattered | Jan 27 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | readwrite.com | Why The Linux Desktop Doesn't Matter Anymore – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/ghl1m ] | Jan 27 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Matt Asay writes an anti-Linux hit piece. | Jan 27 08:16 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 27 09:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: awesome | Jan 27 09:14 |
| MinceR | if they knew a bit about how doves behave, they wouldn't have associated peace with them | Jan 27 09:22 |
| MinceR | anyway | Jan 27 09:22 |
| gde33 | I just had the thought that net neutrality might be a bad idea | Jan 27 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung, Google sign patent deal | Jan 27 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G2uTxQbE4D | Jan 27 09:29 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung, Google sign patent deal | Tux Machines | Jan 27 09:29 |
| gde33 | I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 09:29 |
| gde33 | if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 09:29 |
| iophk | I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. | Jan 27 09:30 |
| gde33 | it might just be great if you had to pay for things | Jan 27 09:30 |
| iophk | Maybe it will be really great if the carriers can charge for both ends of the connection instead of just the one. | Jan 27 09:30 |
| gde33 | it seems nesasary | Jan 27 09:31 |
| iophk | And thus kill the goose that has been laying the golden eggs. | Jan 27 09:31 |
| gde33 | the alternative is to create google and bling monsters | Jan 27 09:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Samsung, Google sign patent deal http://t.co/G2uTxQbE4D' | Jan 27 09:31 | |
| gde33 | I'm not so sure about that | Jan 27 09:32 |
| iophk | False dichotomy. The net, with net neutrality, has made a lot of money for a lot of people and their businesses. | Jan 27 09:32 |
| gde33 | I think people who make it their goal not to earn money are never going to have the influence they seek | Jan 27 09:32 |
| iophk | There's probably precious few small businesses without a web presence. | Jan 27 09:32 |
| iophk | Anything bigger has a serious web site. | Jan 27 09:33 |
| gde33 | it isn't a system that favors the little guy at all | Jan 27 09:33 |
| gde33 | it favors the big and fat | Jan 27 09:33 |
| iophk | Eliminating net neutrality will eliminate the little guy all together. | Jan 27 09:33 |
| gde33 | nonsense | Jan 27 09:33 |
| iophk | Too many fees. | Jan 27 09:33 |
| iophk | Double billing . | Jan 27 09:33 |
| gde33 | I would just get an internet contract with those things as well | Jan 27 09:33 |
| *ohama has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | Jan 27 09:33 | |
| gde33 | not double | Jan 27 09:33 |
| gde33 | just have those pay who should pay | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | google is earning 50 bucks for a click | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | They already are. | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | I have to pay for the pipe? | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | make me laugh? | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | They're paying already. | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | You're paying for your end already. | Jan 27 09:34 |
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| gde33 | people also dont aperciate content if it is free | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | "content" | Jan 27 09:34 |
| iophk | It's already paid for. | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | dont apperciate anythign that is free | Jan 27 09:34 |
| gde33 | take it for granted | Jan 27 09:35 |
| iophk | Name one web site that is not paid for by somebody or some company / org? | Jan 27 09:35 |
| iophk | It's all paid for, plenty of money sloshing around out there now. | Jan 27 09:35 |
| gde33 | no offense to poor people but that type of traffic just isn't worth the bandwith | Jan 27 09:36 |
| iophk | "Name one web site that is not paid for by somebody or some company / org?" | Jan 27 09:36 |
| gde33 | that is just to pay for the centraly controlled server design flaw | Jan 27 09:38 |
| MinceR | 102940 < gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 09:38 |
| MinceR | fame or fun is often enough reward | Jan 27 09:38 |
| gde33 | no it isn't | Jan 27 09:38 |
| iophk | or actual money | Jan 27 09:38 |
| iophk | Volkswagen makes money off of their web presence. | Jan 27 09:38 |
| iophk | So does Netflix. | Jan 27 09:38 |
| gde33 | I want to be an artist and make a living doing that, if my art sucks it wont work I understand that, if it doesn't suck I would need a day job with it? | Jan 27 09:38 |
| gde33 | the audience is just cheap | Jan 27 09:39 |
| gde33 | thats what is wrong | Jan 27 09:39 |
| gde33 | want the fruits of my labor for free | Jan 27 09:39 |
| MinceR | also, eliminating net neutrality will merely increase the barriers to entry for little guys | Jan 27 09:39 |
| gde33 | I'm trying but it is very limited | Jan 27 09:39 |
| gde33 | I'm not seeing that | Jan 27 09:40 |
| MinceR | also, not all artists make a living from art | Jan 27 09:40 |
| iophk | Most art only has value after the demise of the artist. | Jan 27 09:40 |
| gde33 | I think you should spend your money how you like | Jan 27 09:40 |
| iophk | Many famous works are that way. | Jan 27 09:41 |
| gde33 | if that shuold be made impossible we should get rid of money | Jan 27 09:41 |
| gde33 | dont blame the internet for how things work? | Jan 27 09:41 |
| iophk | So why are you blaming the net then? | Jan 27 09:41 |
| gde33 | my curiosity was triggered by it not being such a bad idea as it seemed at first | Jan 27 09:42 |
| iophk | Nothing stops you for putting up a paywall on your site. | Jan 27 09:42 |
| gde33 | lots of things stop me from doing that | Jan 27 09:42 |
| gde33 | how would you like to pay? | Jan 27 09:43 |
| iophk | Offer several options. | Jan 27 09:43 |
| gde33 | howabout a contract with your service provider | Jan 27 09:43 |
| iophk | No ISPs that I know of offer gated communities in that way. | Jan 27 09:44 |
| iophk | You need to set up your own paywall.. | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | every man for himself | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | or else it wouldn't be neutral | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | lmao | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | it isn't going to work | Jan 27 09:44 |
| iophk | It works for some. | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | it should be a subscription system | Jan 27 09:44 |
| iophk | It seems to work for Netflix | Jan 27 09:44 |
| gde33 | so that I can get packages with stuff in them | Jan 27 09:45 |
| MinceR | so, every isp/media conglomerate for itself? | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | we need a system to get the money from the end user into the developer pockets | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | the ISP is THE way to do this | Jan 27 09:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/andrew_roffey/status/427737298763915265 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/427737452174782464 | Jan 27 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @andrew_roffey: @schestowitz it looks like @glynmoody has his blog licensed as CC0 which means it should be easier for his work to be republished | Jan 27 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @andrew_roffey @schestowitz yup | Jan 27 09:45 |
| iophk | You're talking net tax instead now. | Jan 27 09:45 |
| gde33 | there we have evidence of payments, known customer base etc etc | Jan 27 09:45 |
| MinceR | there are many micropayment providers, there could be even more | Jan 27 09:46 |
| iophk | flattr, bitcoin, moneybookers, etc. | Jan 27 09:46 |
| MinceR | bitcoin and the like might also be used | Jan 27 09:46 |
| gde33 | my paywall would burn off 99.999% of my traffic | Jan 27 09:46 |
| gde33 | not that traffic would happen of course | Jan 27 09:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427739333748326400 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427735666110521344 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427735334529794048 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427730491933224961 | Jan 27 09:46 |
| iophk | I feel bad for the fellow who bought a pizza with a large number of bitcoins a few years back. | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: [RT] Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States http://t.co/H1ajh8UYhv … #amd #linux #nsa | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Techrights | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Samsung, Google sign patent deal http://t.co/BdjEArOUWW #patent #samsung #google #android | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung, Google sign patent deal - Muktware | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Privacy News: Ten States Against the NSA, Snowden Speaks About Espionage http://t.co/KM5gpejsDP #nsa #privacy | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Privacy News: Ten States Against the NSA, Snowden Speaks About Espionage | Techrights | Jan 27 09:47 |
| MinceR | so you'd instead force the users to pay through the one ISP that's available in their area? | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life http://t.co/9HLK8Ep8Ki remember when the #fbi sent letters with death threats? | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life | Jan 27 09:47 |
| gde33 | iophk: I use to lurk the channel read the daily bitcoin skeptic | Jan 27 09:47 |
| iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2013/12/23/the-bitcoin-pizza-purchase-thats-worth-7-million-today/ | Jan 27 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | The Bitcoin Pizza Purchase That's Worth $7 Million Today - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gidlr ] | Jan 27 09:47 |
| gde33 | iophk: those would all be milionares now :P | Jan 27 09:47 |
| MinceR | and have the isp block your site if they don't want to let you sell access? | Jan 27 09:47 |
| MinceR | for example, if they run a competing site | Jan 27 09:47 |
| gde33 | that should be the only excuse not to grant access | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | running the wrong payment processor is not a good excuse not to make money | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | I wish the internet worked with real id's | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 09:48 |
| MinceR | but competing with an isp/media conglomerate is? | Jan 27 09:48 |
| gde33 | some sort of system that makes it worth to create content | Jan 27 09:49 |
| iophk | Define content. | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | say you sit yourself down and write a book | Jan 27 09:49 |
| gde33 | now you are going to publish it on the internet | Jan 27 09:50 |
| iophk | So far the net is empty with no info at all out there. Not even one service or product yet. We've got all this connectivity and waiting with no results yet... | Jan 27 09:50 |
| gde33 | now you need multinationals because that is net neutrality | Jan 27 09:50 |
| gde33 | writing for the enemy | Jan 27 09:50 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 09:50 |
| iophk | Publish via a publisher. There are many to choose from. It can be a small publisher. | Jan 27 09:50 |
| gde33 | it wont work | Jan 27 09:50 |
| gde33 | it just doesnt work | Jan 27 09:51 |
| iophk | Nope. No e-books have happened yet. We're still waiting for them. | Jan 27 09:51 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's not like people are making money by selling books | Jan 27 09:51 |
| MinceR | right now | Jan 27 09:51 |
| gde33 | it doesnt work because the deal doesn't depend on the quality of the work | Jan 27 09:51 |
| MinceR | in the model you propose, it would depend a lot less on the quality of the work | Jan 27 09:51 |
| MinceR | it would depend only on which isp manages to get a monopoly where you live | Jan 27 09:52 |
| gde33 | not that I dont apperciate the crusade against the monopoly but we seem to have lost that war already | Jan 27 09:52 |
| MinceR | so let's give up and hand everything else to the winners, too? | Jan 27 09:53 |
| gde33 | if you want a stable system you have to accept a bit of bad works that go unpunished | Jan 27 09:53 |
| MinceR | that's not a "bit" | Jan 27 09:54 |
| gde33 | MinceR: not at all | Jan 27 09:54 |
| iophk | gde33: name one site that is not paid for already | Jan 27 09:54 |
| gde33 | just look at all perspectives, apperciate the view, then try find something better | Jan 27 09:54 |
| gde33 | I could most likely still make a popular website, but when I did I hated the attention. | Jan 27 09:55 |
| gde33 | you need thousands of people, then you still earn nothing. | Jan 27 09:55 |
| gde33 | you have to plaster the pages with advertisement to get tiny revenue :P | Jan 27 09:56 |
| iophk | Then you need a better business plan... | Jan 27 09:56 |
| gde33 | the web needs one | Jan 27 09:56 |
| gde33 | the content creator should be judged by his content, now how he plays the search engine lotto | Jan 27 09:56 |
| MinceR | your scheme would merely force users to pay whoever wins the search engine lottery | Jan 27 09:57 |
| gde33 | not the user | Jan 27 09:57 |
| MinceR | or whoever diverts the user's browser using whatever exploit works | Jan 27 09:57 |
| gde33 | the packages should be tailored just like television stations | Jan 27 09:58 |
| gde33 | just like you get a bunch of magazines | Jan 27 09:58 |
| gde33 | because the web is so big you can do huge numbers of them | Jan 27 09:58 |
| iophk | I see. The net is too open and the cable tv model is more appropriate, you say. | Jan 27 09:58 |
| gde33 | it has it's advantages | Jan 27 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think that DRM might be losing more sales for them than it's worth. | Jan 27 09:59 |
| iophk | I haven't seen any. Most I've seen myself and heard from others is that the cable tv model, with bundling, is a liability. | Jan 27 09:59 |
| iophk | DRM does cost sales. | Jan 27 09:59 |
| MinceR | 105810 < gde33> the packages should be tailored just like television stations | Jan 27 10:00 |
| gde33 | we would get ourselves the FOSS package and read delicious FOSS blogs the whole month | Jan 27 10:00 |
| MinceR | so, you get a bunch of sites your isp happens to like | Jan 27 10:00 |
| MinceR | not the ones you want | Jan 27 10:00 |
| MinceR | that's a great business model, yeah | Jan 27 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Right. I remember asking Comcast repeatedly to carry LOGO. | Jan 27 10:00 |
| gde33 | whoever wants to make the selection | Jan 27 10:00 |
| MinceR | if you live in a fantasy where every isp likes your site that much | Jan 27 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | They finally did, over two years later. | Jan 27 10:00 |
| iophk | Research databases also have that model. High-impact journals are spread across several bundles so that the fees to get all of them are outrageous to impossible. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| gde33 | you still get the normal internet | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, if crippled is "normal" | Jan 27 10:01 |
| gde33 | we just get extra stuff behind a paywall | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | if you get that at all | Jan 27 10:01 |
| MinceR | which is not likely | Jan 27 10:01 |
| iophk | AOL and others have tried that walled-garden approach. | Jan 27 10:01 |
| gde33 | the moment you have the means to pay me I will create that content for you | Jan 27 10:01 |
| gde33 | I should be doing this for free? | Jan 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | the means exists now | Jan 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | what you've proposed will not help you. | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | interesting deal, how sell this to me? | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | I'm not motivated :P | Jan 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | Well, porn and piracy are driving most of the demand for fast internet. | Jan 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | then don't do anything | Jan 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | Good luck getting people to pay for what they will gladly take for free right now. | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | the FOSS subscription will give you access to a web entirely without people who didn't buy that subscription | Jan 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | They need to monetize the "piracy" somehow. | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | that is the added value | Jan 27 10:02 |
| gde33 | finally a whole web with nothing but apple users | Jan 27 10:03 |
| iophk | DaemonFC: bill has monetized piracy already. It's his means of maintaining monopoly rents, which is where nearly all of his money comes from. | Jan 27 10:03 |
| gde33 | you want to put any idiot on the page then give him a form to submit into my database | Jan 27 10:03 |
| gde33 | thats just.... hahahha | Jan 27 10:03 |
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| gde33 | it is just a thought of course | Jan 27 10:04 |
| gde33 | you will be shocked by how well everything works if you get rid of everyone who doesn't want to pay 50 cents to be part of it. | Jan 27 10:06 |
| iophk | Where is the example to show off for that model? | Jan 27 10:09 |
| iophk | The existing model makes trillions of dollars per year | Jan 27 10:09 |
| gde33 | a guy I know use to organise business meet ups where people could invest in stuff | Jan 27 10:09 |
| gde33 | it cost 10 guilders at first | Jan 27 10:09 |
| gde33 | it produced an audience of moaners | Jan 27 10:10 |
| gde33 | he increased the price over time, he is now at 2000 euro per ticket | Jan 27 10:10 |
| gde33 | at the beginning of the meeting he explains that this is way to much for 1 cup of coffee | Jan 27 10:10 |
| gde33 | and that he has no idea what to do with all the money | Jan 27 10:10 |
| gde33 | but it was just to get rid of everyone who didn't want to pay that just for the ticket | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | then everyone laughs | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | he tells the same story every year | Jan 27 10:11 |
| iophk | "there's one born every minute" | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | they actually get work done in this setting | Jan 27 10:11 |
| gde33 | with the cheaper tickets the non investors took all the time, they are just skeptical, it isnt strange or anything. | Jan 27 10:12 |
| gde33 | you would be sitting there with your 10 guilder ticket cheering at the stage " there is one born every minute" | Jan 27 10:13 |
| gde33 | hehehe | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Call for votes on default Linux init system for | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jessie http://t.co/c4EOboStUf | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidu9 | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie | Tux Machines | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Tiny Core is pleased to announce the | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | release of Core v5.2 http://t.co/KCyVQEIhoD | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidua | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Team Tiny Core is pleased to announce the release of Core v5.2 | Tux Machines | Jan 27 10:13 |
| gde33 | a whole web for religious people | Jan 27 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxSM8XVQ2DLI2R | Jan 27 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Everybody already knew that there "are no gays in Iran", unless the religious fundamentalists forgot to hang or shoot one. Now, we know that the same is true in Sochi (Russia). [ http://ur1.ca/gidvd ] | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | Several gay bars, but no gay people. Hmmm.... | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | Fundamentalist Christians in America admire this position of the Ayatollah Khamenei and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and seek to use their examples as a model for America. | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25909656 | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | From the article: | Jan 27 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Sochi mayor tells BBC: No gay people in our town [ http://ur1.ca/gidvh ] | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | "The mayor of Sochi, host of the Winter Olympics, has said there are no gay people in the city." | Jan 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov said there were several gay bars in Sochi." | Jan 27 10:16 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/why-the-copyright-industry-is-doomed-in-one-single-sentence-140126/ | Jan 27 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Why The Copyright Industry Is Doomed, In One Single Sentence | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gidwh ] | Jan 27 10:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | DaemonFC: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427747764089659392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427747932566482944 | Jan 27 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BBC headline makes it sound like #sochi mayor said opposite of what he actually said http://t.co/q6mCH9nGG3 sounds like #propaganda is #bbc | Jan 27 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Western nations: when we can't discredit a rival nation using women's rights, then we look hard for other angles and then twist words. | Jan 27 10:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | DaemonFC: dont fall into the trap of russophobia | Jan 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the US and UK want you to | Jan 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the NSA does too | Jan 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those terrorists | Jan 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427746932187209728 | Jan 27 10:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: February 11, 2014: The Day We Fight Back Against the NSA http://t.co/zTalwnqExa activism before love? | Jan 27 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | Several gay bars. | Jan 27 10:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | February 11, 2014: The Day We Fight Back Against the NSA - FOSS Force | Jan 27 10:21 |
| iophk | espcially the NSA | Jan 27 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | No gay people. | Jan 27 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | How does that work? | Jan 27 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | Who is making this endeavor profitable? | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the BBC made it sound like he denies them access | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but the body of the article says the opposite | Jan 27 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | "leave the children alone" is pretty damned offensive | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Orwell/Blair uses to work for the BBC, writing propaganda for them | Jan 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They need to make it look objective while it's not | Jan 27 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | How would you feel if all straight people were labeled child molesters and told that they could be thrown in prison for even talking to someone under 18? | Jan 27 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | Of course this is ridiculous. | Jan 27 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | If it was just Putin, it wouldn't be Russian law. | Jan 27 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that they have a legislature there. :) | Jan 27 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1743637_856753227687465_741847872_n.jpg | Jan 27 10:28 |
| iophk | "On February 11th, participating U.S. websites will display banners urging their visitors to call or email their Congressperson or Senator" | Jan 27 10:29 |
| iophk | How does that work for sites outside the US? They are affected as well and could participate in the 11 feb protest. | Jan 27 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1535738_10201464001784831_123840603_n.jpg | Jan 27 10:30 |
| iophk | https://thedaywefightback.org/ | Jan 27 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thedaywefightback.org | The Day We Fight Back - February 11th 2014 | Jan 27 10:38 |
| iophk | kind of devoid of content | Jan 27 10:38 |
| MinceR | gde33: oh, i didn't realize that your business plan began with buying an ISP :> | Jan 27 10:39 |
| gde33 | I dont have any plan, the game seemed rigged | Jan 27 10:42 |
| gde33 | I have my own way of looking at the humanity, the more it diverts from the norm the more illogical my plans sound. | Jan 27 10:44 |
| gde33 | in my view orwell was an optimist | Jan 27 10:46 |
| gde33 | in his system at least one gets to be abused by other people | Jan 27 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.activistpost.com/2014/01/bank-run-fears-customers-being-forced.html | Jan 27 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash [ http://ur1.ca/gie4s ] | Jan 27 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Richard Stallman on How He Started GNU | Jan 27 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kxajfkYdEj | Jan 27 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Richard Stallman on How He Started GNU | Tux Machines | Jan 27 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gie5x | Jan 27 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/pope-doves-attacked-by-crow-seagull-st-peters-square | Jan 27 11:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Pope's peace doves attacked by crow and seagull | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gie76 ] | Jan 27 11:01 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/4NPtxDk.gif | Jan 27 11:20 |
| Sosumi | http://www.vulnerability-lab.com/get_content.php?id=1182 | Jan 27 11:25 |
| Sosumi | "Mozilla Thunderbird - WireTap Remote 0Day Vulnerability" | Jan 27 11:25 |
| Sosumi | also, there are no gays in saudi arabia, quatar, oman and UAE | Jan 27 11:29 |
| Sosumi | unless the medieval wahabi there forgot to shoot or behead them | Jan 27 11:31 |
| Sosumi | did I forget Bahrain? | Jan 27 11:32 |
| Sosumi | silly me | Jan 27 11:32 |
| Sosumi | and aren't those countries, specially saudi arabia, alongside with the US, UK, France and Israel the ones bankrolling jihadis into syria? | Jan 27 11:40 |
| Sosumi | yeah those guys that impose sharia law, that eat man's hearts aka canibalism, fornicate with corpses and so on? | Jan 27 11:41 |
| Sosumi | compared to those guys | Jan 27 11:41 |
| Sosumi | putin and khameni are actually kewl guys to hang with | Jan 27 11:42 |
| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/27/iphone-share-strong-android-lead/ | Jan 27 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Holds Strong as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gieik ] | Jan 27 11:46 |
| Sosumi | yes, holding strong while losing marketshare on all fronts to android and to lesses extent, pocket pc | Jan 27 11:46 |
| Sosumi | *windows phone | Jan 27 11:47 |
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| iophk | http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/top-news/police-3-dead-in-mall-shooting-devices-disabled/nc3M6/ | Jan 27 12:09 |
| iophk | "Police began tracking Aguilar's phone and soon discovered it was at the mall." | Jan 27 12:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ajc.com | Md. mall gunman was avid skater, no criminal past | www.ajc.com [ http://ur1.ca/giend ] | Jan 27 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux | Jan 27 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs http://t.co/tmXKq4g6cf | Jan 27 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giepa | Jan 27 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs | Tux Machines | Jan 27 12:16 |
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| iophk | http://opensource.com/education/14/1/interview-catherine-dumas-suny-albany | Jan 27 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Catherine Dumas of SUNY Albany | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/gifqi ] | Jan 27 15:13 |
| iophk | http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/27/apples-iphone-marketshare-dips-in-q4-samsung-falters-under-pressure-from-low-cost-oems | Jan 27 15:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | appleinsider.com | Apple's iPhone marketshare dips in Q4, Samsung falters under pressure from low-cost OEMs [ http://ur1.ca/gifzp ] | Jan 27 15:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427830328196349952 | Jan 27 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs http://t.co/jlmQfuLwPv #gnu #linux | Jan 27 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:20] <iophk> Was it more advertising money from M$ which motivated them to pull the plug? | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Unlikely, I doubt it, but it's not impossible | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 20:34] <iophk> http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-why-it-s-the-third-gaming-platform-1214797 | Jan 27 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:34] <iophk> PS4 ? | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:36] <MinceR> the article claims that's linux-based | Jan 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Moving forward a generation to the brand new PS4, and Linux still binds the heart of the now X86 based powerhouse. Sony confirmed back in November that the angular beast uses a modified version of FreeBSD 9 Kernel to power its own Orbis OS." | Jan 27 15:57 |
| MinceR | the author doesn't seem to realize the difference between Linux and the FreeBSD kernel | Jan 27 15:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It's TechRadar, Britain's embarrassment and tech tabloid | Jan 27 15:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it does lots of headline baits | Jan 27 15:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Along the lines of "linux is dead" | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think it's somewhat connected to Linux Format, but I was never sure how exactly | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I remember this site negatively | Jan 27 15:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [08:18] <DaemonFC> Matt Asay writes an anti-Linux hit piece. | Jan 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So what's the news | Jan 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427833871552770048 | Jan 27 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Satan made them do it!" http://t.co/yKQ0A7Y6n7 | Jan 27 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gawker.com | Evil Triumphs: Satanic Birds Attack Pope's Peace Doves | Jan 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1521936_10153756588540486_1597010073_n.jpg | Jan 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Meh | Jan 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:31] <iophk> I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. :-) | Jan 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Content creators | Jan 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:30] <gde33> I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:30] <gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Poor content creator... who would farm for food? | Jan 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If anything, the copyright cartel/monoopoly NEEDS neutrality | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | to make it affordable to stream | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | people pay the bill for traddic | Jan 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the problem is, the cartel sometimes owns the cable companies too, or vice versa | Jan 27 16:05 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427835339357839360 | Jan 27 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: I eagerly wait for #bitcoin to become widely accepted, but judging by experience, monopoly/big banks will co-opt it http://t.co/fTQE8CSyJK | Jan 27 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | The Bitcoin Pizza Purchase That's Worth $7 Million Today - Forbes | Jan 27 16:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427836294866436096 | Jan 27 16:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash http://t.co/b2sENlPAFK sounds like #natwest | Jan 27 16:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash | Jan 27 16:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This headline is funny | Jan 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Then again, it's an Apple boosting site | Jan 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Classified under "religion" | Jan 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [11:47] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Holds Strong as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gieik ] | Jan 27 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Dips Slightly as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors | Jan 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Losing but strong LOL | Jan 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427837900328542208 | Jan 27 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Police began tracking Aguilar's phone and soon discovered it was at the mall." http://t.co/Ur2AzPCKc4 #trackingdevice | Jan 27 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ajc.com | Md. mall gunman was avid skater, no criminal past | www.ajc.com | Jan 27 16:18 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427838405205319680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427839318418538496 | Jan 27 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #apple is having a #microsoft moment http://t.co/fEpNYuZuDn | Jan 27 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> appleinsider.com | Apple's iPhone marketshare dips in Q4, Samsung falters under pressure from low-cost OEMs | Jan 27 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open source events grow at the #university http://t.co/paYeapLGSW | Jan 27 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Interview with Catherine Dumas of SUNY Albany | opensource.com | Jan 27 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source events grow at the university | Jan 27 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jF2DdLGyqc | Jan 27 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gig7h | Jan 27 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open source events grow at the university | Tux Machines | Jan 27 16:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427848027995639810 | Jan 27 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Write like a champ with #latex aided by these tools http://t.co/M8LLdewj2O | Jan 27 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxlinks.com | Essential LaTeX Tools - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Jan 27 16:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427849287763234816 | Jan 27 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: LinuxScreenshots dot org has just been put on sale. People who like to try and take screenshots of distro might want to secure the tradition | Jan 27 17:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427849519460806656 | Jan 27 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #KMail Complexity - and a little Patience http://t.co/AKtXsPXq7R #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 27 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lxer.com | LXer: KMail Complexity - and a little Patience | Jan 27 17:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_bed2: I got one of those call about an hour and a half ago | Jan 27 17:06 |
| sebsebseb | your Windows computer is gting messages | Jan 27 17:06 |
| sebsebseb | we are rining you up about htat | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | please do this so we can help you with your omputer | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | I had some fun with the guy on the phone :d | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | for a few minutes | Jan 27 17:07 |
| iophk | how long were you able to keep them on the line? | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: oh a long time | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: probably longer if I Wanted | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | I did the call for like sixx minutes | Jan 27 17:07 |
| iophk | Did they figure out you run Gnu/LInux? | Jan 27 17:07 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: I even did the like yeah right stuff and started calling him a con man and everything | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | and saying how they trick people into acccess ot the coputer like that to steal passwords etc is illegal | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | and so on | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: he's like your Wndows Pc. I was ike what country you form, he's like Lodon | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | London Microsoft support | Jan 27 17:08 |
| sebsebseb | I was like uh yeah right and Ia m APple support, and he's just carrying on, trying to get me to run some code thing or whatever, wanting to check the computer id code and yeah | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | then eventaully I am like actsally I run something called Linux, do you n know what that is? | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: eventually he hanged up on me or hwatever | Jan 27 17:09 |
| sebsebseb | I was even like your a con man if I put in.... I Probably won't beable to ring you back since your number will be hidden | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: thing is there is a number I can call back | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | should I? to see what happens | Jan 27 17:10 |
| iophk | Is it very, very expensive to call that number? | Jan 27 17:10 |
| iophk | It could be. | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: well yeah might get charged to call that number | Jan 27 17:10 |
| sebsebseb | it did sayon the phone thing | Jan 27 17:10 |
| iophk | 20₤ / minute? | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | not sure if we have such numbers | Jan 27 17:11 |
| iophk | Best not to try then. | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | that are realy really expensive to calll | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah your right | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | it could be some charged number if calling it | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | where they get cash | Jan 27 17:11 |
| iophk | If it were a toll-free number it might be ok. | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | it's some sort number | Jan 27 17:11 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: once there's another call it's gone | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | unless I save the number | Jan 27 17:12 |
| iophk | short stack | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | as in write it down some where | Jan 27 17:12 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: short stack ?? | Jan 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427851402300649472 | Jan 27 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u rebuttal from Bradley Kuhn. #gnu #sflc #fsf #conservancy | Jan 27 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ebb.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jan 27 17:12 |
| iophk | htt://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_(abstract_data_type) | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | sebsebseb: I know one guy who has a friend who fell for this scam | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think I got such a call a month ago | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I can't recsall mcuh | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I had one last year or whatever | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I really hung up quickly | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the one today oh that was a good laugh | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | glad you likes it | Jan 27 17:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_bed2: i had good fun for a few minutes | Jan 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and they foot the bill for the call | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | I think he thought I Would do the thing | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | for ags | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | ages | Jan 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | well done, but there are better ways to avenge | Jan 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | brb | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | to avenge? | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | wel about having fun | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | and I know what they are doing | Jan 27 17:14 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: you play a long and then make it clear later that your not all stupid | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | that's what I did :d | Jan 27 17:15 |
| iophk | Some try to keep them on the line longer. | Jan 27 17:15 |
| sebsebseb | yeah he | Jan 27 17:16 |
| iophk | It keeps them from bothering others and have some fun. | Jan 27 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | oh he would have styaed on the line with me I don't know long really | Jan 27 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | if I hadn't said ceratin stuff | Jan 27 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: and he didn't pick up some of my like oh yeah stuff etc, and what that really emant | Jan 27 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I guess since he was from India or whatever | Jan 27 17:16 |
| sebsebseb | ok well number gone then, unless same thing | Jan 27 17:17 |
| sebsebseb | got another call just now, but no response | Jan 27 17:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427852387647512576 | Jan 27 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: An #OpenLetter from US Researchers in #Cryptography and Information Security http://t.co/tFGvQKL2UO #nsa harms everyone except oligarchs | Jan 27 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> masssurveillance.info | An Open Letter from US Researchers in Cryptography and Information Security | Jan 27 17:17 |
| iophk | actually queue (FIFO) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queue_%28abstract_data_type%29 | Jan 27 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Queue (abstract data type) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gigk0 ] | Jan 27 17:19 |
| iophk | I thought most digital phones hold way more than one number. | Jan 27 17:20 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: I don't know it's the network number I ring | Jan 27 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | maybe this phone can hold more than one though | Jan 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854233057394688 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854348237156352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854783752712193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855080264462336 | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Android ends 2013 on a high note http://t.co/vdjo2QPDQ9 #android #linux | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.cnet.com | Android ends 2013 on a high note | Mobile - CNET News | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project http://t.co/ypoZcJn6V7 #lux #camera is back | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.open-electronics.org | Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Open Electronics | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux http://t.co/huhc9Gc7k6 #intel #linux | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hands-on with Knoppix Linux 7.2.0: A well-established and very stable Linux distribution http://t.co/43BvxkBXZk #knoppix #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Hands-on with Knoppix Linux 7.2.0: A well-established and very stable Linux distribution | ZDNet | Jan 27 17:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855427943284736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855817355038720 | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: U.S. DOJ Files Charges Against Alleged Android App Counterfeiters http://t.co/0qx8OsgGxQ #android #linux | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found ) | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: What's the best thing about being an open source community manager? http://t.co/SkbfTvB8HA #opensource #community | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Advice and wisdom from 14 community managers on CM Appreciation Day | opensource.com | Jan 27 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO | Jan 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux http://t.co/3bVs8nzsnD | Jan 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigys | Jan 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Jan 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jNI1EaJOn7 | Jan 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigyx | Jan 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android ends 2013 on a high note | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0tKzoGoZ2C | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigyz | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Android ends 2013 on a high note | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cgcdRO1YkY | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigz2 | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What's the best thing about being an open | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source community manager? | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KTGM8sUuZQ | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigz3 | Jan 27 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | What's the best thing about being an open source community manager? | Tux Machines | Jan 27 18:03 |
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| iophk | sebsebseb: fossdem! | Jan 27 18:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep | Jan 27 18:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: shuld be meeting two guys from Estonia on Thursday evening to | Jan 27 18:41 |
| sebsebseb | for dnner | Jan 27 18:41 |
| sebsebseb | with the guy from USA | Jan 27 18:41 |
| iophk | cool | Jan 27 18:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: SystemD have some kind of hackfest | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | on Thursday andFriday to | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that's probably not really for me | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: now I Just need to sort out getting picked up form the air port | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah | Jan 27 18:42 |
| iophk | train or bus? | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: guy from project can't do it, so hpefuly the hotel can pick up like before | Jan 27 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | there may be a train that goes nearish to the hotel | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | I'd rather just be picked up like before | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: hotel has the air port pick up optoin on the form that didn't work, and I Had to contact them again about pick up | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | phone was enaged just now | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: they are a bit bad at relying to email to | Jan 27 18:43 |
| sebsebseb | so just doing things over phone instead this time compelty it seems | Jan 27 18:44 |
| iophk | Are the presentations going to be streamed ? | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | some of them will be sure | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | and then videos up after the event like before | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: so anything in the ain room will probably get stramed and videod | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | when I looked nothing I wanted to go to there as such so that's ok | Jan 27 18:44 |
| iophk | How long do you think it will take for them to post the videos this time? | Jan 27 18:44 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: there's so much going on at once | Jan 27 18:44 |
| iophk | Yes, many things at the same time. | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | a week or so after and the first lot of vidoesp robably go up, past ones already on there of course | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep always going to miss omething | Jan 27 18:45 |
| iophk | It makes it hard to choose and then harder to discuss since others saw something different. | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | could get sucked into stands and then miss whatever, or ould go to osme talk and miss hwatever | Jan 27 18:45 |
| iophk | IIRC Bradley Kuhn had an interesting talk planned. | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but talk wise it seems I am only really interested in the legal issues devv room and maybe Mozilla | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | and cross distor when Deb talks there maybe | Jan 27 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep Bradly KUHN AND Karan Sandler and such will be speaking in legal issues | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | yeah really most of the tlaks I am going to be interested in are from Americans :D | Jan 27 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: already met Bradly sort of | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: as in I saw him on thep anel and yeah | Jan 27 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | last year | Jan 27 18:47 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427872837693894656 | Jan 27 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Emacs and #GNU - the lesser-known relationship (one used to create the other, both ways) http://t.co/J0qDq57zeN | Jan 27 18:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> bytesmedia.co.uk | Bytes Media - Emacs and GNU | Jan 27 18:48 |
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| gde33 | [17:02:48] <schestowitz_bed2> Meh | Jan 27 19:14 |
| gde33 | [17:03:33] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:31] <iophk> I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. :-) | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:38] <schestowitz_bed2> Content creators | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:45] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:30] <gde33> I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:46] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:30] <gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:53] <schestowitz_bed2> Poor content creator... who would farm for food? | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:04:45] <schestowitz_bed2> If anything, the copyright cartel/monoopoly NEEDS neutrality | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:04:52] <schestowitz_bed2> to make it affordable to stream | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:04:58] <schestowitz_bed2> people pay the bill for traddic | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | [17:05:10] <schestowitz_bed2> the problem is, the cartel sometimes owns the cable companies too, or vice versa | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | you think you can force out the art | Jan 27 19:15 |
| iophk | How much did VanGogh get paid? | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | NOTHING | Jan 27 19:15 |
| gde33 | that was good right? | Jan 27 19:16 |
| iophk | Not much of a business model then... | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | that is your ideal model? | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | I only hear selling content is a terrible idea, one should get into the bitcoin ponzi in stead | Jan 27 19:16 |
| gde33 | very homogenious standards | Jan 27 19:17 |
| gde33 | I wish this channel cost 100 euro per month | Jan 27 19:18 |
| iophk | pay Roy then. | Jan 27 19:19 |
| gde33 | it would add some urgency to the debate, I would be helped by that | Jan 27 19:19 |
| gde33 | I've tried constructive discussion with people on the web for many years, if I look at the results I have to say far I've been wasting my time and effort. | Jan 27 19:20 |
| iophk | This afternoon you were hinting at a tax on net traffic to subsidize something or other. | Jan 27 19:21 |
| gde33 | yeah, then you asked for evidence, then I explained how it keeps out uninterested people, l gave an example, then you argued a sucker is born every minute as to prove the topic was unintersting? something like that? | Jan 27 19:22 |
| iophk | paying for the sake of paying? | Jan 27 19:22 |
| gde33 | exactly | Jan 27 19:22 |
| iophk | No return for that payment is for suckers. | Jan 27 19:22 |
| gde33 | no no, the payment is to keep out that opinion | Jan 27 19:23 |
| gde33 | to make sure you are not there to elaborate on your skepticism | Jan 27 19:23 |
| gde33 | not that it isn't valid | Jan 27 19:23 |
| iophk | Start an alternate internet for people with more dollars than sense | Jan 27 19:23 |
| gde33 | that is what i'm wondering about basically, how that would look | Jan 27 19:23 |
| iophk | There's a lot of dark fiber out there. | Jan 27 19:23 |
| gde33 | we can only guess I think? | Jan 27 19:24 |
| iophk | Not if you have a business plan and enough money to back it up. | Jan 27 19:24 |
| gde33 | you also need to be motivated to go do something like that | Jan 27 19:24 |
| gde33 | in what way do I benefit from paying for googles bandwith? | Jan 27 19:25 |
| gde33 | Makes it sound as if the price they charge has something to do with the cost of what they are selling | Jan 27 19:26 |
| gde33 | it doesnt | Jan 27 19:26 |
| gde33 | they are just looking to max out proffit | Jan 27 19:26 |
| iophk | Google is paying for Google's bandwidth currently. | Jan 27 19:26 |
| iophk | They pay big money for that. | Jan 27 19:26 |
| gde33 | true | Jan 27 19:26 |
| gde33 | it is that atractive to own the infrastucture your business runs on | Jan 27 19:27 |
| gde33 | I do completely agree with the ideology of customer own infrasturcture | Jan 27 19:27 |
| gde33 | with most people it is just pearls for pigs | Jan 27 19:27 |
| iophk | You have to continue with common carriage or it just will choke. | Jan 27 19:28 |
| gde33 | sorry not sure what you are trying to explain here | Jan 27 19:28 |
| iophk | The Internet is a network of networks. If they don't allow the traffic of others, then nothing functions except for a crappy little zone. That's what has already been tried and already failed. | Jan 27 19:29 |
| gde33 | that a non neutral internet would drown out the free things? | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | And the paid things | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | espeially the paid things | Jan 27 19:29 |
| gde33 | depends how you structure the payments | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | besides there aren't any free things on the net | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | they are all paid for | Jan 27 19:29 |
| iophk | alreaady | Jan 27 19:29 |
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| gde33 | let me put it like this: In what way do I benefit from net neturality as a content creator? | Jan 27 19:31 |
| MinceR | you get to compete at all | Jan 27 19:31 |
| MinceR | users can access your content without having their connection to it crippled | Jan 27 19:31 |
| MinceR | you get a chance | Jan 27 19:32 |
| gde33 | oh but they do, I can only afford very minimalistic hosting | Jan 27 19:32 |
| MinceR | without net neutrality, you don't even get a chance | Jan 27 19:32 |
| gde33 | how would that work? | Jan 27 19:32 |
| MinceR | how would what work? | Jan 27 19:32 |
| gde33 | not getting a chance | Jan 27 19:32 |
| MinceR | let's say you host some videos on your site | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | the user's isp has a deal with google, so they offer youtube; and they offer their own site | Jan 27 19:33 |
| gde33 | cant afford the bandwith but ok, lets assume I could | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | you don't have a deal with them because you're a competitor and you're small fry | Jan 27 19:33 |
| gde33 | yes | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | if they're feeling gracious the user isn't entirely banned from your site | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | they just don't get to stream the video at all | Jan 27 19:33 |
| MinceR | it's like they're using a 9600 bps modem to access the site | Jan 27 19:34 |
| gde33 | the user paid for internet, he can have access to anything he wants | Jan 27 19:34 |
| MinceR | yes, if they have net neutrality | Jan 27 19:34 |
| MinceR | if they don't, then the user can have access to anything the ISP wants him to | Jan 27 19:34 |
| MinceR | however the ISP wants him to | Jan 27 19:34 |
| iophk | at whatever lowered speeds the ISP wants him to... | Jan 27 19:34 |
| gde33 | start your own isp? | Jan 27 19:35 |
| iophk | not enough because the other ISPs you connect to can stil choke you | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | where will you get the finds for that? | Jan 27 19:35 |
| gde33 | I think we will have exactly the same thing only in a different format | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | and where will you provide service? | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | s/find/fund/ | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | no, we don't even have nearly the same thing | Jan 27 19:35 |
| MinceR | of course, things get even worse if you used some p2p protocol to help with hosting | Jan 27 19:36 |
| gde33 | you are saying that net neutrality will give the ISP the right to block websites? | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | normally, that does work (GNU/Linux iso distribution via BitTorrent, for example) | Jan 27 19:36 |
| gde33 | is that really the same topic? | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | yes, among other things | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | part of what a common carrier is about is that they aren't allowed to decide what to block and what to allow through | Jan 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | but if you don't have net neutrality, the ISPs will just block p2p protocols entirely | Jan 27 19:37 |
| gde33 | so the blocked content is just not available | Jan 27 19:37 |
| gde33 | you dont get access to all the books for example | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | it can be blocked entirely | Jan 27 19:37 |
| gde33 | you didn't pay for that > no access | Jan 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | or it can be allowed but slowed down arbitrarily | Jan 27 19:37 |
| gde33 | Are we not creating a giant straw man for the ISP? Is there really no way to do this fairly? | Jan 27 19:38 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 27 19:38 |
| MinceR | the way to do this fairly is called net neutrality | Jan 27 19:38 |
| gde33 | as in no blocking of content, just additional packages? | Jan 27 19:38 |
| MinceR | anything else is by definition unfair | Jan 27 19:38 |
| MinceR | they won't phrase it as "blocking of content" | Jan 27 19:39 |
| MinceR | for a normal internet user, all of the internet is the default | Jan 27 19:39 |
| MinceR | for a non-neutral greedy ISP, nothing is the default, everything is "additional" | Jan 27 19:39 |
| gde33 | I will explain it again, this time I will just convince you: The thing is, proof of work equals value. | Jan 27 19:40 |
| gde33 | you can create cryptographic hashees and sell those in stead of selling content | Jan 27 19:40 |
| iophk | bitcoin | Jan 27 19:40 |
| gde33 | but it will always be a pretend game | Jan 27 19:40 |
| gde33 | pretend value | Jan 27 19:40 |
| gde33 | so you are just pretending everything is free / worthless | Jan 27 19:41 |
| iophk | you're missing the point that it's all paid for already | Jan 27 19:41 |
| iophk | no need to pay twice | Jan 27 19:41 |
| gde33 | not enough | Jan 27 19:41 |
| iophk | pay Roy then | Jan 27 19:42 |
| gde33 | my point was payments for the sake of payments remember? | Jan 27 19:42 |
| iophk | and a solution was offered. Fund your alternative to the Internet. | Jan 27 19:42 |
| gde33 | if existing plots are all that terrible at granting things their value, what else can we think of? | Jan 27 19:42 |
| gde33 | but wasnt that what netneutrality aimed to prevent? | Jan 27 19:43 |
| gde33 | everyone will be against me just for trying to attribute value lol | Jan 27 19:44 |
| iophk | Value to what? | Jan 27 19:44 |
| gde33 | to everything | Jan 27 19:44 |
| iophk | Use Flattr then | Jan 27 19:44 |
| gde33 | that will only work for 0% of my traffic | Jan 27 19:45 |
| iophk | Maybe it is already being compensated in proportion to its perceived value... | Jan 27 19:46 |
| gde33 | not an acceptable hypothesis | Jan 27 19:46 |
| gde33 | you can go project that on your own creations | Jan 27 19:47 |
| iophk | the data seems to support it | Jan 27 19:47 |
| gde33 | not at all actually | Jan 27 19:47 |
| gde33 | I just hatted the attention | Jan 27 19:47 |
| gde33 | I dont like having attention from more people than I can answer to | Jan 27 19:47 |
| iophk | How did your test of Flattr go? What was wrong? | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | I'm looking at it right now for the first time | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | http://funding.openinitiative.com/ | Jan 27 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | funding.openinitiative.com | Financez votre logiciel - Open Funding | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | is also fun | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | but I'm not seeing the revolution | Jan 27 19:48 |
| gde33 | the hard worked content items are not worth anywhere as much as the cryptographic hash | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | this while you can just easly create a hash | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | much easier than producing a valuable work | Jan 27 19:49 |
| gde33 | I can also do a ponzi scheme with site credits | Jan 27 19:50 |
| iophk | There is also crowdsourcing. | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | that seems to work | Jan 27 19:50 |
| iophk | But then deliverables are required. | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | facinating development | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | I dont even know howmany kickstarter victims there are | Jan 27 19:50 |
| gde33 | there is at least one who lost his shipment | Jan 27 19:51 |
| gde33 | in most of the cases it seems to work nicely | Jan 27 19:51 |
| gde33 | still it seems more a measure of peoples kindness than of the collective vision for the future? | Jan 27 19:52 |
| gde33 | bit of personal greed lol | Jan 27 19:52 |
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| gde33 | I've always had ideas for making a better world, people without money say they are stupid ideas, people with money say I'm wasting my time, it isnt worth the effort to try, the goal should be to make money not to do good things. | Jan 27 19:58 |
| gde33 | I've been trying to convince the poor people ever since, it was such an epic failure that I'm starting to agree with the milionaires. | Jan 27 19:59 |
| gde33 | IF you want to make the world a better place: start by swindeling your way to the top | Jan 27 20:00 |
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| MinceR | 204019 < gde33> I will explain it again, this time I will just convince you: The thing is, proof of work equals value. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| MinceR | it doesn't. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| MinceR | value is what the market values. work may well be wasted. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| MinceR | as for network access, it's currently paid for by the users already | Jan 27 20:07 |
| MinceR | there's no need to pretend that it's provided gratis. | Jan 27 20:07 |
| gde33 | proof of work | Jan 27 20:08 |
| MinceR | same thing. | Jan 27 20:08 |
| iophk | effort != value | Jan 27 20:08 |
| MinceR | (but it's a very communist thing to insist that any busywork is valuable and that everyone must be robbed to compensate the communist for worthless work) | Jan 27 20:08 |
| gde33 | you need to feel useful to | Jan 27 20:09 |
| gde33 | in that way there is value, one can even play football | Jan 27 20:09 |
| MinceR | football had better be useful by itself, then | Jan 27 20:11 |
| gde33 | who made you the decider? | Jan 27 20:11 |
| MinceR | of what? | Jan 27 20:11 |
| gde33 | that came out wrong lol | Jan 27 20:12 |
| gde33 | who decided what has value and what not? | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | the market did | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | the people who had money they could and were willing to spend on goods. | Jan 27 20:12 |
| gde33 | but on the perceved value not what things cost to make | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | with the loss of net neutrality, the market would lose control | Jan 27 20:12 |
| MinceR | and it would be placed in the hand of the corporate oligarchs. | Jan 27 20:13 |
| MinceR | whoever owns your internet connection would decide whose news you read. | Jan 27 20:13 |
| gde33 | why wouldnt that happen anyway? | Jan 27 20:13 |
| MinceR | it certainly looks like it's happening | Jan 27 20:14 |
| gde33 | I can make a blog right now, write blog posts, but no one is going to read them | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | even the w3c has turned against its old idea of an open web | Jan 27 20:14 |
| gde33 | people cant even find them without the oligarchs | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | yes they can | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | for example, i could ask you the address right now, if i wanted to know | Jan 27 20:14 |
| MinceR | and i could read it all without my ISP's express permission. | Jan 27 20:15 |
| gde33 | then if todays posting is not precicely what you are looking for you never look at it again | Jan 27 20:15 |
| gde33 | easy come easy go | Jan 27 20:15 |
| MinceR | and you would deprive me of that choice? | Jan 27 20:15 |
| MinceR | do you think your blog is so important that people should be forced to read it? | Jan 27 20:16 |
| gde33 | I would deprive you from such harsh judgement | Jan 27 20:16 |
| gde33 | The blog could be so important everyone should read it. | Jan 27 20:16 |
| gde33 | the chance is there | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | to become a good writer you have to write the whole time | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | it might be crap some days | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | you shouldnt be put on trial over each blog post | Jan 27 20:17 |
| gde33 | overal performance | Jan 27 20:18 |
| MinceR | and you won't be | Jan 27 20:18 |
| MinceR | if what you do is valued, the word will spread | Jan 27 20:18 |
| MinceR | and there are search engines too, including at least one p2p one | Jan 27 20:18 |
| gde33 | nah the word wont spread, you have to work your ass off | Jan 27 20:19 |
| gde33 | asking random strangers for a few bucks would go much faster | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | yes, you have to work your ass off | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | and if you do it right, the word will spread | Jan 27 20:20 |
| gde33 | then what? big bandwith bills? | Jan 27 20:20 |
| iophk | Or issue an IPO | Jan 27 20:20 |
| gde33 | have LIES advertised all over the website? | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | you can choose your advertisers | Jan 27 20:20 |
| MinceR | they don't have to be lies | Jan 27 20:21 |
| MinceR | (i know, the truth isn't very popular nowadays) | Jan 27 20:21 |
| gde33 | something other than google? | Jan 27 20:21 |
| gde33 | hah yes | Jan 27 20:21 |
| MinceR | possibly | Jan 27 20:21 |
| gde33 | that wont work as well | Jan 27 20:22 |
| gde33 | you need 10 times as much traffic | Jan 27 20:22 |
| gde33 | if not 100 | Jan 27 20:22 |
| gde33 | you have to go full retard, "become a militard, join the fight in iraq today" | Jan 27 20:23 |
| gde33 | then you make money | Jan 27 20:23 |
| MinceR | you'll need a business model | Jan 27 20:23 |
| MinceR | hopefully a better one than "herp derp let's gang up on the users and rob them blind" | Jan 27 20:23 |
| gde33 | not my kind of plan | Jan 27 20:23 |
| MinceR | your earlier comments suggest otherwise. | Jan 27 20:24 |
| gde33 | usually my plans are to complex to even consider, I do have some admiration for the simplistic there | Jan 27 20:24 |
| gde33 | if it has you explain why people need something you dont have to bother with the idea | Jan 27 20:25 |
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| gde33 | If people can be robbed they must have had something. | Jan 27 20:27 |
| gde33 | most people in this world dont have anything. | Jan 27 20:27 |
| MinceR | most people in this world don't have access to the internet | Jan 27 20:28 |
| MinceR | most people in this would would not be able to read your blog even if they wanted to. | Jan 27 20:28 |
| MinceR | s/would/world/ | Jan 27 20:28 |
| gde33 | I tried to do it in print one time with a few people, it was surpricingly expensive to do small editions | Jan 27 20:29 |
| gde33 | why would someone with 1 hour of internet per week not be able to write a valuable text? | Jan 27 20:30 |
| gde33 | why do we have all this audience building he has to get into? | Jan 27 20:30 |
| MinceR | because quite a lot of people want to be heard | Jan 27 20:31 |
| gde33 | that doesnt make people less valuable | Jan 27 20:31 |
| MinceR | and listeners have limited time | Jan 27 20:31 |
| MinceR | are you sure of that? :> | Jan 27 20:31 |
| gde33 | oh yes, I believe most of the problelms we can produce are based on not valuing people. | Jan 27 20:32 |
| gde33 | then moan when others dont value you either | Jan 27 20:32 |
| MinceR | if you do not value people, is that just another way of saying that people have zero value? :> | Jan 27 20:32 |
| gde33 | when you abuse people you get to be abused basically | Jan 27 20:32 |
| MinceR | i'd be fine with just not bothering each other | Jan 27 20:33 |
| MinceR | but for most people that's a concept too advanced | Jan 27 20:33 |
| gde33 | MinceR: just that you value them less I suppose | Jan 27 20:33 |
| gde33 | I believe in bothering people a little bit | Jan 27 20:33 |
| gde33 | a friend of mine plays computer games all day, I call him an enabler. lol | Jan 27 20:34 |
| gde33 | just to bother him | Jan 27 20:34 |
| gde33 | I think people automatically live up to the expectation when you assert their value | Jan 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | they usually don't | Jan 27 20:35 |
| gde33 | have to do it the whole life | Jan 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | i learned that the hard way | Jan 27 20:35 |
| gde33 | sure, but we should die trying to convince them :) | Jan 27 20:36 |
| MinceR | no thanks | Jan 27 20:36 |
| gde33 | that is one of your valuable qualities | Jan 27 20:37 |
| MinceR | don't worry, chances are i'll die eventually | Jan 27 20:37 |
| gde33 | your legacy will live on :D | Jan 27 20:37 |
| gde33 | people wont remember it was you when they repeat your words | Jan 27 20:37 |
| MinceR | or it won't | Jan 27 20:37 |
| gde33 | everything we know was made up by some one | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | each letter, each word, some of the sentences | Jan 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | maybe humanity will wipe out itself along with all its records | Jan 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | and there's nobody out there who could catch and decode our EM emissions | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | of course it will | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | the big question is if we will escape the solar system before that happens | Jan 27 20:38 |
| gde33 | if we will live as short as 1 sun | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | heh | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | or shorter | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | !!! | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | but we could very well potentially infest the whole gallaxy | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | and beyond | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | we have technology that could wipe out higher-order life on this planet in the hands of religious extremists who believe that if everyone does, that's acceptable | Jan 27 20:39 |
| gde33 | grow green fur on all those balls | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | and maybe that's the best outcome | Jan 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | s/one does/one dies/ | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | we get to play our part | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | maybe we are the ones without sins? | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 20:40 |
| MinceR | that depends on how you define 'sin' | Jan 27 20:40 |
| gde33 | I define it as who should throw the first stone | Jan 27 20:40 |
| MinceR | certain religious zealots who believe themselves to be experts on ethics believe that you're responsible for the sins of your ancestors | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | which shows how much they really know about ethics | Jan 27 20:41 |
| gde33 | at least we get to suffer their sins | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | yay | Jan 27 20:41 |
| gde33 | but also enjoy their accomplishments | Jan 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | i was kinda hoping for more than just suffering | Jan 27 20:41 |
| gde33 | I had a dream a few days ago where I finally calculated why religion is nothing but an ego trip | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | the idea one would be punished in the after life for what one does | Jan 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | it's worse than an ego trip | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | when I do something I dont care about that | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | I do things because they need doing, burning forever might just be worth it | Jan 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | it's a mental infection that poisons everything | Jan 27 20:42 |
| gde33 | we should have put George's head on a pike way back in 2001, then suffer the eternal punishment. | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | it would be totally worth it | Jan 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | dubya? | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | yeah | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | burn him at the stake | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | god can complant all he likes? | Jan 27 20:43 |
| gde33 | he is going to punish me? | Jan 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | "God" does not exist. | Jan 27 20:44 |
| gde33 | that is suppose to stop me from doing the right thing? | Jan 27 20:44 |
| MinceR | its definition is inconsistent with itself, therefore false | Jan 27 20:44 |
| gde33 | exactly | Jan 27 20:44 |
| gde33 | but my argument is that it is all rooted on egoistic behavior | Jan 27 20:44 |
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| gde33 | I use to have some sympathy for the mood they create while doing things | Jan 27 20:45 |
| gde33 | the collective feeling of trying to do the right thing | Jan 27 20:45 |
| MinceR | and then you realized that they undermine the ability to reason? :> | Jan 27 20:45 |
| MinceR | also any possibility of tolerance | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | that isn't an argument you can use to convince that person | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | if you can show him he is all doing this for himself | Jan 27 20:46 |
| MinceR | there is no argument you can use to convince a religious zealot. | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | then that changes the whole story | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | I think there is a good compromise available. | Jan 27 20:46 |
| MinceR | one of the main traits the memetic evolution of religion selects for is the immunization against removal and against competitors | Jan 27 20:46 |
| gde33 | we take all the good stuff offered by a relgion, then we put that in a new wrapper and ask non religious people to help with these good things | Jan 27 20:47 |
| gde33 | then we would be willing to help them | Jan 27 20:47 |
| MinceR | if it isn't based on reason, then it doesn't have a good foundation | Jan 27 20:47 |
| MinceR | and if it is, then it isn't religion. | Jan 27 20:47 |
| gde33 | some of it can be based on reason | Jan 27 20:48 |
| gde33 | if we the people start a non proffit to make a better world you better not get the idea to build a church from the donations | Jan 27 20:48 |
| gde33 | we might need to hire a few people to do the administration and we might need a building | Jan 27 20:49 |
| gde33 | if the church has a ready made building available for this it seems usable | Jan 27 20:49 |
| gde33 | hell, they would be doing the lords work? | Jan 27 20:50 |
| MinceR | what would that be? | Jan 27 20:50 |
| MinceR | exterminating lots of people for not being the chosen ones? :> | Jan 27 20:51 |
| gde33 | I think an atheist can be convinced to help the church if they would be doing something actually useful. | Jan 27 20:51 |
| MinceR | establishing the rules under which humans are to be trafficked in? :> | Jan 27 20:51 |
| gde33 | those things could all be repackaged | Jan 27 20:52 |
| gde33 | call it a new level of milder more moderated religion | Jan 27 20:52 |
| gde33 | they have to understand that doing good involves actual work | Jan 27 20:52 |
| MinceR | there are such religions | Jan 27 20:52 |
| MinceR | not abrahamic ones, though :> | Jan 27 20:52 |
| gde33 | if you interupt that work to read bibles you are not helping anyone | Jan 27 20:53 |
| gde33 | More general: we create organisations that may turn into giant monsters, we have to find a training method for the monster to learn new tricks. | Jan 27 20:55 |
| gde33 | it all seems far to static | Jan 27 20:56 |
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| gde33 | big tech companies buying small businesses is a way of learning something for such creature. | Jan 27 20:56 |
| gde33 | but how are we going to teach BP cold fusion? | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 20:57 |
| MinceR | or maybe we should just slay the monsters | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | if anything it is an argument pro dictatorship | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | nothing is like being judged by a single person | Jan 27 20:57 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 27 20:57 |
| MinceR | nothing is as bad, yes | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that's pro dictatorship | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | no no, if you add more people it gets worse | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | eventually we dont agree about anything | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | which slows down the destruction | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | so, a good thing | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | the thing becomes a life form in it self | Jan 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | and of course if people didn't suck quite so much, it could be much better | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | the components are not in charge of it | Jan 27 20:58 |
| gde33 | you will get a ticket type 44 as described in rule 1034 | Jan 27 20:59 |
| gde33 | I'm just the officer writing the ticket | Jan 27 20:59 |
| gde33 | I'm sorry ok? lol | Jan 27 20:59 |
| MinceR | "i was only obeying orders" | Jan 27 21:00 |
| MinceR | that's not a good excuse | Jan 27 21:00 |
| gde33 | but it works like thta | Jan 27 21:00 |
| MinceR | well yes, humanity works in a horrible way | Jan 27 21:00 |
| gde33 | you only need 2% to think like that to be able controll everyone else | Jan 27 21:00 |
| gde33 | it isn't something likely to get fixed | Jan 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | it will probably get fixed in the most painful method available | Jan 27 21:01 |
| gde33 | we could start with brainscans for politicians | Jan 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | overpopulation, wars, famine, plagues, extinction | Jan 27 21:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/4279080327991951361 | Jan 27 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No message found | Jan 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | maybe a bit of nuclear winter | Jan 27 21:01 |
| gde33 | nothing we cant handle | Jan 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: Sorry, that page doesn’t exist! | Jan 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | not sure what there is to handle about painful self-extermination | Jan 27 21:02 |
| gde33 | brainscans for politicians and a diploma before you get to vote | Jan 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | that won't help | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | I had some fun discussions with people about those 2 | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | why wont it help? | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | it merely installs a centralized authority that decides who gets to run for office and who gets to vote | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | sure, they'll claim it's for objective reasons | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | but it won't be | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | not if it cant contain the evil | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | if the evil cant manifest it cant run the place | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | it will | Jan 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | it's everywhere | Jan 27 21:03 |
| gde33 | we know that empathic people feel the pain of others | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | and people are trying hard to make it worse | Jan 27 21:04 |
| gde33 | I wouldnt mind making that a requirement for politicians | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | how would you enforce it? | Jan 27 21:04 |
| gde33 | just eliminate the psychopaths | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | how would you do that? | Jan 27 21:04 |
| gde33 | with brainscans and other tests | Jan 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | psychopathy is probably the most difficult kind of mental disorder to diagnose objectively | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | we dont need objectivity | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | part of it is that the psychopath tries to hide their own disorder | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | we need certainty | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | we do need objectivity | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | empathic people get seizurs when you show them choped up bodies on a monitor | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | without objectivity, you get people deciding who gets what | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | and corruption | Jan 27 21:05 |
| gde33 | if you can just sit there without any emotion you are not the man for the job | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | same system as before, maybe with a few more levels | Jan 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | i doubt that everyone who's desensitized to images of mutilated bodies is a psychopath | Jan 27 21:06 |
| gde33 | if you have an amount of people some will test obviously empathic, some will test obviously psychopatic and some will test average. | Jan 27 21:06 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it wasn't on any of the checklists i've seen | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | I dont think it is a sexy idea to put the clear psychopath in power | Jan 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure Cleckley didn't mention it in Mask of Sanity :> | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | he doesn't have what it takes | Jan 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | he'll speak to the people and make them believe that he does have what it takes | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | We could argue about average people but the cases where it is all to obvious should be eliminated. | Jan 27 21:07 |
| MinceR | also, tests can be corrupted | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | these are people who dont have activity in that part of their brain | Jan 27 21:07 |
| gde33 | you are setting up shop for wars | Jan 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | if the people doing the test aren't willing to lie about the results, the people in power will replace them | Jan 27 21:08 |
| gde33 | you can certainly have a few cases where it isn't easy to get a good rating | Jan 27 21:08 |
| gde33 | just publish the data? | Jan 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | also, i'm pretty sure a psychopath could fake discomfort | Jan 27 21:08 |
| gde33 | if you want to be a public figure, wouldnt you want to know this about yourself? | Jan 27 21:09 |
| gde33 | to what extend you are faking empathy? | Jan 27 21:09 |
| MinceR | they could tamper the data before publishing it | Jan 27 21:09 |
| gde33 | it wont make you less of a person | Jan 27 21:09 |
| gde33 | do you think a truly empathic person could just start a war for proffit? | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | personally, if you come to my desk to suggest such a thing I might just have to end you | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | no, i think a psychopath could easily fake being empathic | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | for your test | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | he cant | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | then they get into power and do whatever they wanted to do all along | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | the biological effect is to strong | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | while faking whatever emotions they need | Jan 27 21:10 |
| gde33 | people feel as if it is their finger being cut when looking at it | Jan 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | read Mask of Sanity :> | Jan 27 21:11 |
| gde33 | there is no evidence such tests can be faked but still it would add a layer of security | Jan 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | no, it wouldn't | Jan 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | it would merely add more hooks for corruption | Jan 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | and more chances to attack people the oligarchy doesn't want in power | Jan 27 21:11 |
| gde33 | dont you understand that some people have no feeling for others? | Jan 27 21:12 |
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| MinceR | i do | Jan 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | but it won't be easy to tell if they do or not | Jan 27 21:12 |
| gde33 | there are cases where we can establish this with great certainty | Jan 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | from the outside | Jan 27 21:12 |
| gde33 | or do you doubt there are such cases? | Jan 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | also, by the very nature of such testing there would be a small number of people making a decision | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | which would be easily subverted | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | the information could just be presented to the voter | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | the voter is not a trained psychiatrist | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | you are showing empathy to people who dont know what it means | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | why would you bother with that? | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | and any discrepancy could be explained as a different interpretation of the data | Jan 27 21:13 |
| gde33 | do you think they will aperciate it? | Jan 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | politicians already do that | Jan 27 21:14 |
| gde33 | they will think of it as your weakness | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | they'll present the data and their decision | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | and claim that the decision is based on the data | Jan 27 21:14 |
| gde33 | sure | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | and another expert will easily determined that the decision is bogus | Jan 27 21:14 |
| gde33 | you can have the tests done independently | Jan 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | while the ones on the politician's side will agree with it, no matter what | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | the other expert deserves a fair hearing | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | so, how many tests will decide if someone gets to run for office or not? | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | and how? | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | I'm still talking about the extreme cases where people have pretty much reverted to using nothing but their lizard brain | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | also, m$'s example should show that "independent" is easily thrown around | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | the john mcain kind of politician | Jan 27 21:15 |
| gde33 | where non of the brain works | Jan 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | that's the sort of people a large percentage of the voters want | Jan 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | most of the people are idiots | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | he just started singing bomb iraq bomb bomb iraq? | Jan 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | and i see no way of fixing that | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | he thought he was being funny | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aZPnwXV_700b_v1.jpg | Jan 27 21:16 |
| gde33 | that brings me to argument 2 | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | the voter diploma | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | :D | Jan 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | same problem | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | what do you mean? | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | you want to not know anything then decide stuff for me? | Jan 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | whoever hands out the diploma decides who gets to vote | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | gtfo? | Jan 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | and so they'll be corrupted to decide the corruptor's voters are eligible, others aren't | Jan 27 21:17 |
| gde33 | you just say that because you failed for the test | Jan 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what the corruptor will say | Jan 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jan 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | our commies before 1990 prohibited opposition parties from participating in the election by claiming that they were all "fascists" | Jan 27 21:19 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Jan 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | if you wanted democracy, you were a "fascist" | Jan 27 21:19 |
| gde33 | a very efficent system right there | Jan 27 21:20 |
| gde33 | we are going to do something like that to you | Jan 27 21:20 |
| gde33 | not just make you unelectable based on science data that says ur a nazi | Jan 27 21:20 |
| gde33 | but also not give you the diploma for not knowing anything at all about our great nation | Jan 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, "science" "data" | Jan 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | whoever writes the test decides what the right answers are | Jan 27 21:21 |
| gde33 | but hey, at least I've addressed earlier arguments of my content not being original enough. | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 21:22 |
| gde33 | I will just have to make this case in future arguments | Jan 27 21:22 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-the-americans-will-always-do-the-right-thing-after-they-ve-exhausted-all-the-alternatives-winston-churchill-326251.jpg | Jan 27 21:22 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/ep-machine.gif | Jan 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | :D | Jan 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | the execution is somewhat lacking | Jan 27 21:25 |
| gde33 | I was just distracted by the thoughts that gifs are really nice, not a lot of work to make for how funny they can be. | Jan 27 21:26 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/php-ani.gif | Jan 27 21:26 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/theorafish.gif | Jan 27 21:28 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/m$-but-fly.png | Jan 27 21:29 |
| gde33 | MinceR: but to get back to the combi, between wanting psychopaths and wanting uneducated people in government you've pretty much ruined everything. | Jan 27 21:32 |
| gde33 | there is no hope now | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | apparently you've failed at reading comprehension | Jan 27 21:32 |
| gde33 | it is either nazi's or nazi's | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | indeed there is no hope | Jan 27 21:32 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | whatever system you'll invent to restrict who can run for office or can vote, can and will be corrupted. | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | just like whatever system people coming up with organizing government can and will be corrupted | Jan 27 21:33 |
| gde33 | http://www.streetartutopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4602805654_db8b6569fb_b.jpeg | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | what if my dreams are nightmares? | Jan 27 21:33 |
| gde33 | we dont care what they are | Jan 27 21:34 |
| gde33 | you dont have dreams as far as the rest of us is concerned | Jan 27 21:34 |
| gde33 | we have nothing to worry about | Jan 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | indeed, worrying won't help either | Jan 27 21:36 |
| gde33 | I say first we get rid of government psycho's, then remove the people would cant be bothered to know anything from voting. | Jan 27 21:36 |
| gde33 | then at least our downfall will be well organised | Jan 27 21:37 |
| gde33 | then we increase the complexity of the voting process | Jan 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | and how would you do that? | Jan 27 21:38 |
| gde33 | excluding even more people | Jan 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | and how will increased complexity work? | Jan 27 21:38 |
| gde33 | voting more often on actual topics | Jan 27 21:38 |
| gde33 | involvement in decision making | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | most people can't be bothered | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | they already vote randomly | Jan 27 21:39 |
| gde33 | we can compensate them for not participating | Jan 27 21:39 |
| gde33 | they can always learn the nesasary stuff and join us | Jan 27 21:39 |
| gde33 | until they do they will just have to trust us | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | one way or annother | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | they can't and they don't care to | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | I dont see the problem with people who dont care | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | and if you devise a system to confirm that they've learned, that system will be compromised | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | cant we respect that? | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | people who don't care do a lot of damage | Jan 27 21:40 |
| gde33 | I'm looking for basic knowledge | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | people who don't care to think a bit voted hungary into a dictatorship | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | people who don't care to thing a bit keep the usa in its two-party system | Jan 27 21:41 |
| gde33 | we can eliminate most voters with the requirement of knowing which parties they can chose from. | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | probably same in the uk | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | not sure how that would work, considering that parties get nominated before the election | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | and there are a lot of parties who try to get nominated | Jan 27 21:42 |
| gde33 | we can require basic knowledge of each option | Jan 27 21:42 |
| MinceR | again, someone will decide what the right answers are | Jan 27 21:42 |
| gde33 | without knowledge of what the choices are your choice cant be considered as valauble as the next guy | Jan 27 21:42 |
| MinceR | and someone will tell the voters on their side what the right answers are | Jan 27 21:42 |
| gde33 | at first the test should be kintergarden level | Jan 27 21:43 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 21:43 |
| gde33 | most voters only know the names of the top 3 options | Jan 27 21:43 |
| MinceR | also, people will try to smear your test with all sorts of false stuff too, to fight it | Jan 27 21:43 |
| gde33 | thats fair | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | it deserves to be attacked | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | and it won't be introduced anywhere | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | for reasons you described earlier | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | unless the oligarchs want it to | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | but then they'll shape it to their needs | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | the idea is not at a stage where it can be implmeneted | Jan 27 21:44 |
| gde33 | but it is intersting to talk with people who argue they want to vote but they dont want to bother knowing anything | Jan 27 21:45 |
| gde33 | if you ask them how we are going to get it right they say ehhehehe | Jan 27 21:45 |
| gde33 | technically the correct response | Jan 27 21:46 |
| gde33 | If such a system would be taken over it would still allow for greater citizen participation? | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | it would seem to me that it would allow for less citizen participation | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | seeing how it's all about restricting who gets to participate | Jan 27 21:49 |
| gde33 | smaller numbers but more influence? | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | well, those are connected | Jan 27 21:50 |
| gde33 | the test could be designed to eliminate a fixed percentage of voters | Jan 27 21:50 |
| MinceR | in the extreme, you have one citizen participating, the Patrician | Jan 27 21:50 |
| MinceR | he is the Man, he has the Vote. | Jan 27 21:50 |
| gde33 | we merge his brain with the super computer | Jan 27 21:51 |
| gde33 | 3)???? 4) proffit! | Jan 27 21:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 21:52 |
| gde33 | it will be our only solution to avoid rule by AI | Jan 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | except he will be the AI and he will rule | Jan 27 21:55 |
| MinceR | so we won't avoid it at all | Jan 27 21:56 |
| gde33 | I liked Chavez TV show | Jan 27 22:02 |
| gde33 | who knows, maybe we could do a telepresence political model | Jan 27 22:02 |
| gde33 | cybernetic politicians with advanced telerobotics | Jan 27 22:04 |
| MinceR | how would you tell if they're psychopaths then? | Jan 27 22:06 |
| gde33 | by pluging into the live feeling telemetry feed | Jan 27 22:06 |
| gde33 | make it so that one can experience the representative | Jan 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | and then someone broke into the feed and made everyone die from a seizure :> | Jan 27 22:07 |
| gde33 | they are going to die anyway | Jan 27 22:08 |
| gde33 | at least it will be efficent | Jan 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | there are more efficient ways to kill everybody | Jan 27 22:08 |
| gde33 | less emotionally involved? | Jan 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | no, everybody | Jan 27 22:09 |
| gde33 | build in a safty system | Jan 27 22:09 |
| gde33 | mcaffee emo 2.0 | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | ooh | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | mcaffee for my neural system | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | i can't wait | Jan 27 22:10 |
| gde33 | you just configure the feelings you want | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | new and exciting ways to suffer and die | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | and you can't even uninstall it! | Jan 27 22:11 |
| gde33 | we always end up with that | Jan 27 22:11 |
| MinceR | of course the assumption that my neural system runs winblows is even scarier | Jan 27 22:11 |
| gde33 | it almost defeats the purpose of technology | Jan 27 22:11 |
| gde33 | bad patches :P | Jan 27 22:11 |
| MinceR | s/mcaffee/mcafee/ | Jan 27 22:12 |
| MinceR | (or, for german speakers, s/mcaffee/mcaffe/ :> ) | Jan 27 22:13 |
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| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7886825472 | Jan 27 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | Google "Duverger's Law" - Cheezburger | Jan 27 22:52 |
| gde33 | have people say their own opinion doesnt matter | Jan 27 22:59 |
| gde33 | if there was a 3rd party that represents what I believe I wouldnt vote for it because I dont want to be the first in anything. kind of logic | Jan 27 23:01 |
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| gde33 | MinceR: the oposite is also a fun picture, select the psycho as our leader then do an iq test to eliminate votes from overly brainy people. | Jan 27 23:14 |
| MinceR | what would that do? | Jan 27 23:14 |
| gde33 | it would make a collective out of people who really need one | Jan 27 23:14 |
| gde33 | and deploy a leader who knows he is a psycho, he should take some advice when it gets in the way | Jan 27 23:15 |
| gde33 | a bit like a surgeon would have to stay a bit emotionally detached | Jan 27 23:17 |
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| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7899670528 | Jan 27 23:53 |
| gde33 | MinceR: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/5-d_fI6_Gz8/kyAQzodJQWoJ | Jan 28 00:10 |
| MinceR | o_O | Jan 28 00:11 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | "We didn't make it for Indians, WE MADE IT FOR WESTERNERS *WHO CAN AFFORD IT*". | Jan 28 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | (Emphasis is mine) | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, not even all westerners, only the very rich ones. And I'm sure that even post-Obamacare, insurance companies will figure out some way to "discourage" customers that cost them $5,750 a month in drugs alone. People that are that sick are the reason Medicare and Medicaid exist. They're made a burden of the public because private insurers don't want those customers, only relatively healthy ones. That's why those programs are allowed | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | to exist. It's privatized profits and socialized losses. Lemon Socialism. | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's wonderful that India has used the force majeure of its national government against foreign predatory drug companies, to help cancer and HIV patients. | Jan 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | More countries should do this, and they should tell Obama and his corporate crapitalist cronies to go to hell, and exactly where to shove the TPP. | Jan 28 00:26 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 28 00:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427924662627360768 | Jan 28 01:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/427930702294687744 | Jan 28 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | Better anything than Apple. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's hard to imagine any devices that come along that could be more hostile to freedom than iThings. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Even Microsoft doesn't have a blanket ban of copyleft software on their Windows store. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they could at any point, and that sort of abuse is something that app store monopolies enable. | Jan 28 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | geez | Jan 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I've almost filled up my 2 TB hard drive. | Jan 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 28 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I need to go through looking for files that I don't need anymore. | Jan 28 01:29 |
| gde33 | DaemonFC: you just need to buy a new one ;) | Jan 28 01:32 |
| gde33 | when you have 6 TB or more you will see that cleaning up is pointless lol | Jan 28 01:33 |
| schestowitz__ | tessier: only 3 or so days left for the site's current host; can a VM be set up tomorrow? | Jan 28 01:43 |
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| schestowitz__ | gde33: I have 8 TV | Jan 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | YB | Jan 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | TB | Jan 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427981620151590912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427981789752463360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427982182611943424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427982622086537216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427983678804070400 | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Suppressing contenders http://t.co/5ibC3f61e1 | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> cheezburger.com | Google "Duverger's Law" - Cheezburger | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Without money" https://t.co/2ymr35Clbg | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: FBI: catching the "criminals" (privacy proponents) https://t.co/9k1mydwYjD | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Optical illusion in 3-D https://t.co/rz8rvd6QPL | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: War on #anonymity http://t.co/sAPrbgZEKb | Jan 28 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gizmodo.com | The FBI Seized All of TorMail's Data and Is Using It to Catch Hackers | Jan 28 01:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427984517043732480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427984787371208704 | Jan 28 02:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dreams http://t.co/8QPiNUHFfD | Jan 28 02:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Choices http://t.co/AeUW5Zpv41 #europe not much better http://t.co/tkQFRaz7ik | Jan 28 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/lKswZ2Hx32 | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikdx | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 13.10 Now http://t.co/Uw0RpadLPW | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikdy | Jan 28 02:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | My dad on Facebook regarding gay marriage. " So, besides offending a whole lot of people, confusing others, inspiring a lot of people to not care, and introducing that group to the joys of divorce, where is the prize?" | Jan 28 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Who cares if right-wing crazies in the American Taliban are offended? Seriously. Fuck them. I mean that. Fuck them very much. Sure, divorce will happen. I don't think it will exceed the embarrassingly high divorce rate of straight people, which is well over 50%." | Jan 28 02:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427987357179346945 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427987983837310977 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427988828792840192 | Jan 28 02:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now http://t.co/ripPBrlW6d #ubuntu #linux #gnu | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: New version of Google spyware is out http://t.co/GAlPwFpz7H #firefox improved a lot, people should revisit it | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Jan 28 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Snowden-branded #nsa leaks are starting to slow down (infrequent new disclosures); are new anonymous leakers (using Snowden's name) afraid? | Jan 28 02:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 02:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 02:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "inBloom, I think, is a Gates thing." | Jan 28 02:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 02:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, I have already criticised that article at the time | Jan 28 02:29 |
| gde33 | does this link work? http://worldwide.espacenet.com/espacenetDocument.pdf?ND=3&flavour=printablePage&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090212&CC=WO&NR=2009019001A2&KC=A2&pageNumber=1 | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | http://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa/#comments | Jan 28 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fossforce.com | Is Red Hat Working for the NSA? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/gikij ] | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Some of those are facts, and I should read the rest of them again, but e.g. my take on Linus’ father was that he was speculating. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Mixing facts and speculation doesn’t make them all facts. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | BSD devs don’t trust HW RNG’s, neither Linux devs. And Linux devs treat every bug the same way, security implications or not. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I might not like it but that’s the way they work. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | My final question to you is: given your distrust on RedHat, how can you recommend people to use CentOS, given that they use the same sources? | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I wouldn’t trust them either, especially since they’re part of RedHat now. | Jan 28 02:30 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 02:30 |
| gde33 | I had annother great idea to limit peoples freedom, bra locks with build-in iq test. | Jan 28 02:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427990874623332352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427991391818772480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427992803067846656 | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List http://t.co/3pSFDIPo7m #gnome #gnu #linux | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? http://t.co/7FHwBvEqCB #zdnet again http://t.co/xffqS65Bil | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> m.itworld.com | Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | ITworld | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce http://t.co/OzhzH4H7sI #kfce #kde #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk | Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Jan 28 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HFf3jpBFnR | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmf | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | List http://t.co/ZUrs38Ge1p | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmh | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hx198qw7E5 | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmi | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uqA6uuyLBD | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmj | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Tux Machines | Jan 28 02:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427998519069528064 | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #seagate are incompetent; if all they can replace a faulty drive with is another faulty drive, then it's better if they don't bother at all. | Jan 28 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Kaitlyneene @tuxmachines 20 minutos... *o* | Jan 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/sDjctLXYgf | Jan 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giknd | Jan 28 02:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kaitlyneene: @tuxmachines 20 minutos... *o* http://t.co/sDjctLXYgf | Jan 28 02:57 |
| gde33 | MinceR: I'm still on our choice between nazi's or nazi's | Jan 28 03:15 |
| gde33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TlVqXVSz6w | Jan 28 03:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | WE ARE THE NAZIS - 911 THE MUSICAL - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gikpq ] | Jan 28 03:15 |
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| gde33 | common guys, we will win this war? | Jan 28 03:58 |
| tessier | schestowitz__: I'm working on a VM now... | Jan 28 05:02 |
| tessier | schestowitz__: /home is 99% full btw. Do you get emails when this happens? The monitoring system is configured to send them... | Jan 28 05:05 |
| tessier | I just extended the logical volume for /home... | Jan 28 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | The Indiana General Assembly just voted to strike the second sentence from the marriage discrimination amendment. | Jan 28 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | That means that they have to pass it again every year through 2016 before it can be placed on the ballot. | Jan 28 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | I think the Republicans did this because they hope that the courts will save them from having to vote in favor of the amendment. | Jan 28 05:33 |
| tessier | Indiana....I have lots of family there. | Jan 28 06:55 |
| tessier | Mostly conservative and mostly bigots of one sort or another. | Jan 28 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | the rural parts | Jan 28 07:05 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-23/tor-anonymity-software-vs-dot-the-national-security-agency | Jan 28 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessweek.com | Tor Anonymity Software vs. the National Security Agency - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/ghnni ] | Jan 28 09:29 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:05] <tessier> schestowitz__: /home is 99% full btw. Do you get emails when this happens? The monitoring system is configured to send them... | Jan 28 09:30 |
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| schestowitz__ | oops, I know why this happened. Must always have around 3 GB free for the backups to take place (DBs are over 2 GB) | Jan 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: I posted a link to it some days ago when it was first published | Jan 28 09:32 |
| iophk | Yes, I just now noticed that it actually made the cover. | Jan 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | I said they had spun it | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Tor has some support from gov | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Origin and funding | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | For their astroturf ro whatever | Jan 28 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | and propping up coups in other countries perhaps | Jan 28 09:36 |
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| schestowitz__ | The BW/bloomberg article goes further by characterising it as a property of the gov, I think | Jan 28 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Entertainment is another word for a palliative against one's disatisfaction with oneself. Unless one is first able to be happy while just being, without distraction (including thinking), then one craves entertainment. Conversely, if one is able to be content alone and not distracted from one's own being, entertainment serves no purpose, but can be taken, or left aside, with equal ease."77" | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559214 | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #outage at #nsa #dropbox "was caused by internal maintenance," according to DropBox. Setting up more doors for NSA? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/11/dropbox | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | You would not expect these geniuses to contract out to companies for this kind of thing. Remember when the CIA director got caught in some woman's Yahoo?"77" | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wired.co.uk | Hackers claim responsibility for Dropbox outage (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/gimm0 ] | Jan 28 09:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428101598775365632 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428101788529881088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428102151005810688 | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #GNU in the Days of #UNIX http://t.co/7vusjlD9rV | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » GNU in the Days of UNIX | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #TuxMachines Site Migration Imminent (Updatex2) http://t.co/lTRwDjCQkr The target VM is now ready. | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Site Migration Imminent (Updatex2) | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #seagate claims to have warranty, but what it actually means is, you can send faulty drive at own expense to get a different faulty one | Jan 28 09:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558771 | Jan 28 09:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies https://beyondrevolution.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/over-half-of-germanys-renewable-energy-owned-by-citizens-farmers-not-utility-companies/ #germany #ebergy | Jan 28 09:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> beyondrevolution.wordpress.com | Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies | Beyond Revolution [ http://ur1.ca/gimml ] | Jan 28 09:49 |
| schestowitz__ | "Good. Now if this can just happen everywhere..." | Jan 28 09:49 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3339990 | Jan 28 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @smg@diasp.org: #fsf #unix #c #linux #gnu | Jan 28 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by smg@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 28 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by smg@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | 'He was probably at a seminar or whatever in Britain or speaking about the british market, would be my guess. AS IF BRITAIN IS DEVOID OF SOCIOPATHS! For shame." | Jan 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558618 | Jan 28 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rich people: people are poor because they're lazy; Poor people, indoctrinated by rich people-owned media: I just need to work harder. | Jan 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "When in reality, it is because the rich people have forced those poorer than them into debt. We have to take out loans (debt) of debt-based money in order to do almost anything because it is nearly impossible to save up for large purchases (cars, houses, college) because the money loses its value before it can be spent. And by rich people, I exclude the majority of business owners who are also forced to use debt." | Jan 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556127 | Jan 28 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hollywood and celebs: all the distraction our world needs to be blind to state crimes, tyranny, & other illegalities http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/op-ed-msnbc-cuts-off-nsa-interview-for-breaking-news-of-bieber-arrest/article/367332 | Jan 28 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.digitaljournal.com | Op-Ed: MSNBC cuts off NSA interview for 'breaking news' of Bieber arrest [ http://ur1.ca/gi5lj ] | Jan 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "Considering the "press" is owned by tConsidering the "press" is owned by the same people that own the government through bribes, sorry "campaign contributions", it would not surprise me were giddy when they found out about this."he same people that own the government through bribes, sorry "campaign contributions", it would not surprise me were giddy when they found out about this. | Jan 28 09:51 |
| MinceR | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5fhL002JJ7I/UuPRfm_iAyI/AAAAAAAA83o/yhyv-g_gSYg/w499-h551-no/jesus.jpg | Jan 28 09:52 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: yeah | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558657 | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Get 'em while they're young," they say... http://io9.com/the-nsas-website-for-kids-isnt-creepy-nope-not-cree-1508865211 | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> io9.com | The NSA's website for kids isn't creepy. Nope. Not creepy at all. [ http://ur1.ca/gimp1 ] | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Indoctrination of the young and impressionable is always creep-tastic." | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558215 | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/note-3-users-samsung-disabled-unofficial-accessories-via-software-update/ #samsung #ballnux | Jan 28 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ei ] | Jan 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "...taking a page from Apple's playbook..." | Jan 28 09:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 09:54 |
| MinceR | also, region lock | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Apple is suffering from ANdroud now | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | it too is a religion | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | preying on young and unpopular | Jan 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Thinking they'd substitute bad life with a tiny worship-worthy machine | Jan 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558510 | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #drones with legs, wheels, etc. http://www.slashgear.com/u-s-army-expects-to-replace-a-quarter-of-soldiers-with-robots-by-2040-23314216/ http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/us-army-hopes-replace-25-soldiers-robots-2040/20003 http://www.voanews.com/content/us-army-envisions-more-robotic-future/1836408.html | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slashgear.com | U.S. Army expects to replace a quarter of soldiers with robots by 2040 - SlashGear [ http://ur1.ca/gimpc ] | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040 - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gimpe ] | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.voanews.com | U.S. Army Envisions More Robotic Future [ http://ur1.ca/gimpf ] | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/raEmqlSVYq | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimph | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung rumoured to release ‘Galaxy Glass’ IFA | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Berlin 2014 http://t.co/dMMoi9ANUk | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimpj | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung rumoured to release ‘Galaxy Glass’ IFA Berlin 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | "An unquestioning army who will never question their orders, regardless of how inhumane they are..." | Jan 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/01/27/richard-shermans-winning-rant/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=richard-shermans-winning-rant | Jan 28 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | Richard Sherman's Winning Rant [ http://ur1.ca/gimqx ] | Jan 28 10:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428107414454689792 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428109367335190528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428110498807418880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428111285625307136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428111550541737984 | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Case of the Missing OS, or Did Apple Eat Pear? http://t.co/IUT2YEVQw6 #apple #pearos http://t.co/FIB9D1ZsFq | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxinsider.com | The Case of the Missing OS, or Did Apple Eat Pear? | Community | LinuxInsider | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Why a Deletion of Pear OS From the Web (Including SourceForge) is Mysterious | Techrights | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment http://t.co/DoM6WPFaRm #ome | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux http://t.co/1OdZhlkivb #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Paradox' Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux - Muktware | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #samsung to produce #linux based #cctv glasses too http://t.co/nf9ocOvQ1v | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung rumoured to release 'Galaxy Glass' IFA Berlin 2014 - Muktware | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 http://t.co/IWkKeIANmH #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.junauza.com | 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | TechSource | Jan 28 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | heading for Linux http://t.co/tC1L7sDv2X | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzg | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Knoppix Review, Shotwell's Future, and 5 | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Insults http://t.co/jyK3N0sMIK | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzh | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Knoppix Review, Shotwell's Future, and 5 Insults | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fSSNFm4EOQ | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzj | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Make Peace with pax http://t.co/blPp8TfIbu | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzk | Jan 28 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Make Peace with pax | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:35 |
| iophk | ok, authorized access then? | Jan 28 10:38 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/microsoft-rules-out-back-door-access-to-mps-electronic-communications | Jan 28 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Microsoft rules out ‘back door’ access to MPs’ electronic communications | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gin07 ] | Jan 28 10:39 |
| iophk | It's probably right there in the EULA | Jan 28 10:39 |
| iophk | http://bluesky.chicagotribune.com/hub/chi-mit-finding-competitive-advantage-in-open-source-bsi-hub,0,0.htmlstory?track=bluesky-ct-head | Jan 28 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | bluesky.chicagotribune.com | How open-source software drives innovation - Blue Sky Innovation [ http://ur1.ca/gin0i ] | Jan 28 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: good link | Jan 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | I will write about it later | Jan 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | The Guardian covers up for Microsoft again | Jan 28 10:45 |
| iophk | *EULA -> EULA(s) | Jan 28 10:47 |
| MinceR | http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/10000/0000/700/210759/210759.strip.zoom.gif | Jan 28 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.datamation.com/news/tech-comics-geek-spoilsports-1.html | Jan 28 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.datamation.com | Tech Comics: Geek Spoilsports - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/gin2f ] | Jan 28 10:52 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: any related articles? | Jan 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | I xdidn't see one with accusations | Jan 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a defence of Microsoft | Jan 28 10:53 |
| iophk | not off hand | Jan 28 10:53 |
| iophk | possibly a pre-emptive strike to distract from something. | Jan 28 10:53 |
| iophk | It might be in reference to something months old. | Jan 28 10:54 |
| iophk | http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40836.html | Jan 28 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.marketoracle.co.uk | NSA Built Back Door In All Microsoft Windows Software Since 1999 :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting Free Website [ http://ur1.ca/gin3b ] | Jan 28 10:55 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/11/snowden_leak_shows_microsoft_added_outlookencryption_backdoor_for_feds/ | Jan 28 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Snowden leak: Microsoft added Outlook.com backdoor for Feds • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gin3d ] | Jan 28 10:56 |
| iophk | http://www.zentyal.org/2013/12/zentyal-3-3-featuring-microsoft-exchange-server-replacement-is-now-available/ | Jan 28 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zentyal.org | News - Zentyal 3.3, featuring Microsoft Exchange Server replacement, is now available | Linux Small Business Server [ http://ur1.ca/gin3q ] | Jan 28 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428114838909648896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428118783325388800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428119179775180800 | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview http://t.co/C7F7MdhwWN #ubuntu #debian #linux | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Delivery #drones http://t.co/UPzo7M0ljZ | Jan 28 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How open-source software drives innovation http://t.co/m4gQ9SWY10 because the "i" word (innovation) is hip these days | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: yes, but these are from last year | Jan 28 10:57 |
| iophk | yes, old | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | was there a new complaint in Aussie Greens? | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Cause I saw no coverage of them | Jan 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | certainly not from Gates-funded 'guardian' | Jan 28 10:58 |
| iophk | maybe this? | Jan 28 10:58 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/18/us-able-monitor-australian-mps | Jan 28 10:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Australian MPs could be exposed to US surveillance, IT official concedes | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gin4r ] | Jan 28 10:58 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, but oldish | Jan 28 10:58 |
| iophk | Of course the Guardian is not going to help by linking to any other articles, old or new. | Jan 28 10:59 |
| iophk | It could be in response to the old article or a distraction from something else happening now. | Jan 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | like what? | Jan 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | I didn't see MS in the headlines, except for lies | Jan 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Brad Smith and others claiming to move "cloud" out of US for non-US 'customers | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Huff Puff/AOL printed this nonsense | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It's a PR plot | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It's a PR ploy | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | because of seagate I didn't have time to look into NSA news yesterday | Jan 28 11:02 |
| iophk | I wouldn't know, the good headlines are often buried. | Jan 28 11:04 |
| iophk | also old : | Jan 28 11:10 |
| iophk | http://delimiter.com.au/2013/11/20/worst-cio-job-australia/ | Jan 28 11:10 |
| iophk | "We know that Microsoft software contains a back door which is utilised by the US NSA and Microsoft has been very active in assisting the NSA to circumvent the company’s own encryption standards." | Jan 28 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | delimiter.com.au | Worst CIO job in Australia? - Delimiter [ http://ur1.ca/ginba ] | Jan 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428122907362217984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428123158898835456 | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "The gist of the story is that "123456" is now the most commonly used weak password" http://t.co/WgDLMp1XLC I use people who use it! | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Password Security Requires Multiple Layers of Protection | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/dpihChLXRQ #amd #nvidia #linux | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Jan 28 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Preview http://t.co/muSFpXX0UJ | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ginch | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/poNqc61Mla | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gincj | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Four must try Indie games on Linux | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OvCPHvpGn7 | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ginck | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Four must try Indie games on Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3565099 | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Optical illusion in 3-D https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Xw1Z_-WwUkccw1tZ8nCsSW_IjdvrWx2vlBgKskRnBJE=w402-h223-no | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVBDBGSt-DQ | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | floating box illusion - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gincq ] | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 11:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "yep https://plus.google.com/u/0/100647702320088380533/posts/XUATuoci42L http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/to-lisa-macfarlane-and-suzanne-estey-and-you-thought-it-was-a-conspiracy-theory/ oh look, it's you https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/P8k9iHsvWNJ '" | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | glyn moody - Google+ - All Your Child's Data Are Belong To InBloom -… [ http://ur1.ca/gind0 ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | seattleducation2010.wordpress.com | To Lisa Macfarlane and Suzanne Estey: And you thought it was a conspiracy theory? | Seattle Education [ http://ur1.ca/gind1 ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | Will Hill - Google+ - We covered inBloom before. It’s like Gates’ own mini-PRISM.… [ http://ur1.ca/gind2 ] | Jan 28 11:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Thankful for the mention... | Jan 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3565107 | Jan 28 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: War on #anonymity http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-seized-all-of-tormails-data-and-is-using-it-to-1509838202 | Jan 28 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gizmodo.com | The FBI Seized All of TorMail's Data and Is Using It to Catch Hackers [ http://ur1.ca/gind6 ] | Jan 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "Gizmodo is stupid. FBI uses Windows malware, search warrants and duress to steal a database, so Gizmodo concludes TOR is worthless. No, what's worthless for your privacy is Windows, non free software and US hosting." | Jan 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3561448 | Jan 28 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/26/edward-snowden-threats_n_4670786.html remember when the #fbi sent letters with death threats? | Jan 28 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life [ http://ur1.ca/gindc ] | Jan 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "I would like more people appreciate what Snowden did and realize what costed him. There would be no need of a handful of heros if millons of people acted like responsible citizens." | Jan 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | several other NSA employees are now following his example and leaking more documents, published with attribution to Snowden for their safety, based on G.A.P. | Jan 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't disagree and think we're just highlighting different aspects of the issue. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | However, rather than demeaning or downgrading TV watchers, I'm encouraging people to consider what they do and why, and providing a simple and easy way to test out my statement, for anyone with a mind to wake up. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Try changing a habit, and if you can't, well, are you curious to know why is that? Is that OK for you? And if not, well the solution is in there too. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | The last part is not easy though, and something I have been working on for years, with some success, but always many more habits to challenge, and aspects of myself that I struggle to be with. | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz__ | My wife and I don't watch TV. I gave away my last set about a decade ago, and I've hardly missed a thing. In fact, the world (outdoor) and society (communication) is too good to be wasted, esp. if the alternative is a one-way broadcast (data-pushing) apparatus which treats us like fetuses. | Jan 28 12:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428124064134475776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428132567511228416 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428132604043612160 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428139298849054720 | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Four must try Indie games on Linux http://t.co/ZOhfPIygdk #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Four must try Indie games on Linux - Muktware | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Developers, generally speaking, want to share their code with other developers." http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ebb.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "It's lawyers and business people with dollar signs in their eyes who want to make proprietary software." http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "EU agreed its current Data Protection Directive in 1995... Mark Zuckerberg was just 11." http://t.co/AF3PcDFKeV #privacy | Jan 28 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ec.europa.eu | Data Protection Day - European Commission | Jan 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428140421978808320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428140949341224960 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428141643678887936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428142642552397824 | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First ever #CryEngine Game to head for Linux http://t.co/SYNUe2gEDV #gnu #linux #games | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Google Patent aims to offer ad based driverless taxi service - Muktware | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Speaking personally, I have never, ever, switched off comments on my blog posts or deleted posts" http://t.co/kqNlF20wVv | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.jonobacon.org | On Accountability | jonobacon@home | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux http://t.co/O69j7D7CpU #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The state of digital freedom in 2014 http://t.co/oYSFnxCvhr OSI president speaks about freedom, not openness. #fsf #gnu | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.infoworld.com | The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Open Source Software - InfoWorld | Jan 28 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever CryEngine Game to head for Linux | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fEa6kjsvDv | Jan 28 12:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3bR3IpxUyY | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9i | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | First ever CryEngine Game to head for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MfoaZyHKiC | Jan 28 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9j | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Actually Stable http://t.co/3xYxyltRWB | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9k | Jan 28 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:56 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/finnish-schools-using-open-source-reap-savings | Jan 28 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gioc3 ] | Jan 28 13:11 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428159303124803584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428155742445924353 | Jan 28 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Finnish schools using open source reap savings https://t.co/Gq6rJq0aoy #finland #freedom #freesw | Jan 28 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable http://t.co/PmJ8O542qn #gnu #linux | Jan 28 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone | Jan 28 13:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428159824514519040 | Jan 28 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Upgrading home connection to fibre-optics; 80Mbit download, 20Mbit upload. This will hopefully make the connections more stable, too. | Jan 28 13:37 |
| MinceR | if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it. | Jan 28 13:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 13:41 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's great. :-) TV is the headline here, because almost everyone has one, and many watch a lot of it, but it it's not the point of my post, which is about the many ways people are averse to being, and how disempowering this can be." | Jan 28 13:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428160575764713473 | Jan 28 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox http://t.co/TX9o4W4BcZ #gnome #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 28 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.datamation.com | KDE Desktop Vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox - Datamation | Jan 28 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/glkQ61PhmF | Jan 28 13:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ew9Y4fz3Yg | Jan 28 13:44 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Tux Machines | Jan 28 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox | Tux Machines | Jan 28 13:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428164913748770817 | Jan 28 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ForgeRock rocks with #Sun projects http://t.co/uLD8XreDH0 | Jan 28 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itwire.com | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Jan 28 13:59 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: I habe some posts scheduled for tonight | Jan 28 13:59 |
| iophk | cool | Jan 28 13:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I have lots planned for yesterday, but Seagate drive arrive and it was as broken as the one it replaced | Jan 28 14:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Burned 4 hours of my time, killed my appetiate, and even ruined my morning | Jan 28 14:00 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if a company can be held legally liable for replacing faulty with faulty under "warrany" | Jan 28 14:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a total waste of time, would be better to use the time to just buy a new drive | Jan 28 14:00 |
| iophk | I've heard that some send refurbished drives as warranty replacements. | Jan 28 14:01 |
| iophk | How long was the warranty? 1,2,5 years? | Jan 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Tonight I need to set up NRPE on dozens of Debian servers, then I can post lots of good articles again, can pick up pace again this year, and am getting fibre next month... | Jan 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | 2 years | Jan 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | the new drive sort of hangs up randomly | Jan 28 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Sometimes while formatting | Jan 28 14:02 |
| iophk | There was a recent report rating Seagate as very low on reliabi.lity | Jan 28 14:02 |
| iophk | Hitachi was best in the report. | Jan 28 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I need to focus on TuxMachiens migration, so I'll put off any futher work on the drive. I will do a thorough fsck thius weekend and use it to prove they sent me garbage | Jan 28 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Segates's official account in twitter already stepped in for damage control | Jan 28 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | I got Hitachi as a replacement for a bad laptop drive in my Compaq | Jan 28 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | IIRC it lasted for many years | Jan 28 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | When I tried it in 2001, around 10 years later, I think it did get some inode issues (under DSL), but that was the last time I played with that old laptop (32 MB of RAM) | Jan 28 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Hitachi=IBM | Jan 28 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Is that something that's in China's hands now too? | Jan 28 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM makes me think, maybe the future realy is IT staff losing jobs to China (the Symphony team is largely Chinese) and China is going to just buy or overrise US brands | Jan 28 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | And then there's India | Jan 28 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | China, reportedly, is now getting more involved in software, just like India | Jan 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | huiman resources (time) are cheap there | Jan 28 14:06 |
| iophk | Their R&D may not be so good but then the US has been cutting and cutting R&D for years now. | Jan 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | They can do extreme programming, like having 3 people working on a program at once, spotting issues like they do in factories | Jan 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | My siuster works with Chinese programmers who are in GE, and she's says they're not so good.... yet GE has been dropping US workers and hiring in China for a while | Jan 28 14:07 |
| schestowitz__ | My brother's old company did the same with India, and some said that the cost of fixing their programming mistakes (I actually think they have fantastic programmers) is higher than the savings of outsourcing the job | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Mass production paradigm is being ytested in s/w now | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | See Microsoft | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Around Vista they send the programming to India | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Same with Adobe | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | And look what happened | Jan 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Saved money on wages, but the software is not necessarily better, to say the least | Jan 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz__ | It's good for managers, perhaps, but even that's doubtab;e | Jan 28 14:09 |
| iophk | M$ has never had good quality though. And I can't recall when Adobe last was good. | Jan 28 14:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Class war is now also a war t devalue IT pros, driving their wages down, increasing working hours, stress, etc. | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Automation experts too are no longer valued | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Like outsourcing the outsiurcers | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Eventually the outsourcers too will see themselves replaced by thiose whom they promote | Jan 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz__ | FOSS is one way to reduce costs | Jan 28 14:10 |
| iophk | Saves effort, too. | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and then sort of justify the expense of hiring expensive staff | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Like people who manage 1000 servers at once | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | with no costs associated with the automation (puppet, nagios, etc.) involves | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | *ved | Jan 28 14:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:59] <TechrightsBot-tr> @schestowitz: #ForgeRock rocks with #Sun projects http://t.co/uLD8XreDH0 | Jan 28 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itwire.com | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The FOSS SMBs are good to work for | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | They have large companies as clients | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | staff can work from home, bossing minimal | Jan 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz__ | People motivated by eagerness to deploy FOSS | Jan 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz__ | An ideaological boss of sorts | Jan 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Like political drives, or advocacy | Jan 28 14:13 |
| iophk | , | Jan 28 14:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | We estimate your download speed will be between 79.9Mb and 80Mb. | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | We estimate your upload speed will be between 20Mb and 20Mb. | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children. That's why we include free BT Parental Controls with all our broadband packages. | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If you haven't already, turn on BT Parental Controls now. | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | (you'll need to log in and click the BT Parental Controls tile) | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | LOL | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | At least it's still OFF by DEDAULT | Jan 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Won't be for long | Jan 28 14:19 |
| iophk | Nope, not for long. | Jan 28 14:20 |
| iophk | When it's deployed widely enough, they'll throw th.e switch | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | It's not important what _I_ do | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Sites like TorrentFreak get blocked | Jan 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz__ | So people around me will continues to be brainwashed only by one side of the feud | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | And it hurts everyone | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | lullung the population | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | TPP - sounds good, freedom... trade... | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Frzcking- cool, mate, saves me in energy bills | Jan 28 14:22 |
| iophk | Reminds me a little of how Groklaw and other sites were blocked during the OOXML scandal due to a 'contract dispute' Funny how nothing like that has happened before or since. I guess with the BTPC, some sites will get blocked "accidentally" at key times. | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Censorship - well, think about the children | Jan 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz__ | DPI - against terrorism, helps me get targetted marketing | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklaw was blocked? | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | PJ never explained to me that | Jan 28 14:23 |
| iophk | In parts of Europe. | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | she abstained form commenting | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | I think Websense blacklisted her | Jan 28 14:23 |
| iophk | Updegrove and some others were als o blocked. | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | on what grounds was it? | Jan 28 14:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow | Jan 28 14:24 |
| iophk | Some were blocked directly others because the DNS they used were blocked. | Jan 28 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if i should be careful with the photos of drone victims | Jan 28 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | They could use that as an excuse for blocking. I never had someone reporting to me that s/he had been blocked, not even in censorship-happy nations | Jan 28 14:24 |
| iophk | It was interesting that the pro-standards people were clustered around certain companies and blocking that one company could block directly / indirectly the sites. It let up hours after the vote. | Jan 28 14:24 |
| iophk | *a few | Jan 28 14:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Not even when I wrote a lot morew and get around 3 million hits per week (now it's less than that) | Jan 28 14:25 |
| schestowitz__ | One day we can get bloc0ked | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | (16.23.57) schestowitz__: on what grounds was it? | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | The claim was a contract dispute between networks... | Jan 28 14:25 |
| iophk | "happens all the time" was the excuse. | Jan 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. now that I dtop links on NSA, GCHQ, some leaks (not as many original ones as before), criticism of armies... | Jan 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz__ | This reminds me, I have a load of links to dtop about it... hang on... | Jan 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428170138635235328 | Jan 28 14:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "BT Cloud - online storage with 50GB of space" - cool, now you can share your personal data with #gchq and #nsa for FREE! | Jan 28 14:27 |
| iophk | Groklaw was blocked in late march 2008 according to old mails. | Jan 28 14:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428174732878680064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428175005625876480 | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BT E-mail: "Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls. Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children." | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Think about the children! They might read _*gasp_* news sites like TorrentFreak (blocked by Sky) and be exposed to other views. | Jan 28 14:38 |
| iophk | The block was not everywhere just in some regions IIRC | Jan 28 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, Norway IIRC | Jan 28 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | her readers in Norway reported this at the time | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source venture that's profited from | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oracle's actions http://t.co/lrDylf8App | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gipa1 | Jan 28 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Tux Machines | Jan 28 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | She may have mentioned in in news Picks | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | TBH, I have not been to GL for months | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder how much the archive is good for when it comes to traffic, which is what matters because it gauges impact factor | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklw is badly build in the SEO sense | Jan 28 14:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Comments are hidden by default for one thing | Jan 28 14:39 |
| iophk | Yeah, most CMS are bad for that. | Jan 28 14:40 |
| iophk | The Comes v M$ stuff could also use metadata to aid in the searching. | Jan 28 14:43 |
| iophk | I wonder if it would be practical or appropriate to convert it to static HTML or just leave it? | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I don;t think many would pursue Comes docs anymore | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft is dying | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | no matter what they say and how they cook the books | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | many businesses still feed MS, but for how long? | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | We help some migrate to Linux at the server room AND desktop (Ubuntu mostly) | Jan 28 14:44 |
| schestowitz__ | main fileserver transition due tonight at midland | Jan 28 14:45 |
| iophk | Nice. | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | And once these succeed, the word spreads | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | and more in the same sector follow, as they do... | Jan 28 14:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428176608332357633 | Jan 28 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Links 28/01/2014: Recent News About Militarism, Violence http://t.co/51lTe1RUo8 news from the past week or so | Jan 28 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 28/01/2014: Recent News About Militarism, Violence | Techrights | Jan 28 14:45 |
| iophk | https://threatpost.com/issa-five-other-congressmen-call-for-dni-clappers-removal/103890 | Jan 28 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | threatpost.com | Congressmen Call For DNI Clapper's Ouster | Threatpost - English - Global - threatpost.com [ http://ur1.ca/gipcr ] | Jan 28 14:46 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428178798874730496 | Jan 28 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Issa, Five Other Congressmen Call For DNI Clapper’s Removal https://t.co/DqFbqyxvzv removal only? How about prosecution? #nsa | Jan 28 15:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Jan 28 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aU3moYATom | Jan 28 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gipvc | Jan 28 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 15:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567159 | Jan 28 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "BT Cloud - online storage with 50GB of space" - cool, now you can share your personal data with #gchq and #nsa for FREE! | Jan 28 16:02 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "you paid for it" | Jan 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567252 | Jan 28 16:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BT E-mail: "Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls. Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children." | Jan 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Reaky , anyone recently watched v for vendetta ? You britons r headed that way , in the speed line ..." | Jan 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Parental Controls...is important for everyone" Adults too, I guess... | Jan 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3563241 | Jan 28 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #KMail Complexity - and a little Patience http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/197664/index.html #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 28 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lxer.com | LXer: KMail Complexity - and a little Patience [ http://ur1.ca/ginfq ] | Jan 28 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 28 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That's one of the reasons your E17 desktop seems so smooth. If you turn on Kmail, that effect will go away. | Jan 28 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | KDE, to their credit, is working to make that search less obnoxious but I don't see how it can work. The only time I used Nepomuk was when Kmail demanded it for search. Even though I limited it to my email, it consumed 50 to 100% of my cpu for a week or two. It finally calmed down. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The first and only time I tried to actually search my email using the fancy database, it deleted all of my email. The damn thing froze as soon as I pressed the search button. I waited for it to do what it wanted and was horrified to see that everything had been erased. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those two things, depending on database for core functions and risk of complete email loss, are why I'm going to use Trinity for my email. Wheezy has the last version of Kmail that I'd recommend to anyone, so I recommend other email clients to new users now. | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | thunderbird is very good and themes make it integrate well with everything | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "?You said it well." | Jan 28 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I tried, without success, for about 20 minutes to find the long writerup about why not to use DDG. I was unable to find it via G+, D*, personal site sections, Google search. Is that still online? | Jan 28 16:06 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2325542/gchq-is-monitoring-facebook-likes-and-youtube-with-operation-squeaky-dolphin | Jan 28 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | GCHQ is monitoring Facebook Likes and Youtube with Operation Squeaky Dolphin- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gipyy ] | Jan 28 16:08 |
| iophk | http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/angry-bird-told-nsa-youre/story?id=22251583 | Jan 28 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | A Little (Angry) Bird Told the NSA What You’re Up To - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/giq0w ] | Jan 28 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428183706365607936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428197805581406208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428198599433134080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428198948810264576 | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GCHQ taught NSA how to #monitor Facebook , #Twitter in real time – #Snowden leak http://t.co/q1UEdpUyzZ #gchq #nsa | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NO TITLE | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 http://t.co/KUO72jWFJH margins make #linux #arm etc. take over | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> mrpogson.com | More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Robert Pogson | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know http://t.co/5hjIGHEDtY http://t.co/OQtqziY61t http://t.co/3ZPzslitzo | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know - thanks to ANGRY BIRDS • The Register | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.sky.com | Angry Birds: NSA And GCHQ Harvest Apps Data | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds and 'leaky' phone apps targeted by NSA and GCHQ for user data | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR." (using sex in attempt to cause suicide) http://t.co/a6hoQTMYSa MLK died later | Jan 28 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> destee.com | J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. | Black People Meet | African Americans | Destee | Jan 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: toy beat me to it | Jan 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *you | Jan 28 16:15 |
| iophk | So it got a little help with the popularity... | Jan 28 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, well... | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I just showed it to Rianne | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | she and I played a finished many of the Angry Birds series | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And there's no escaping the spying, even in games | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google cghq xbox live | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NSA, GCHQ can listen to Xbox Live chat communications - Eurogamer | http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-09-nsa-gchq-can-listen-to-xbox-live-chat-communications | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - World of Spycraft: NSA, GCHQ hacked WoW and Xbox Live, other ... | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/world-of-spycraft-nsa-gchq-hacked-wow-and-xbox-live-other-games/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NSA and GCHQ spied on Xbox Live and World of Warcraft gamers ... | http://www.express.co.uk/news/science-technology/447704/NSA-and-GCHQ-spied-on-Xbox-Live-and-World-of-Warcraft-gamers-to-counter-terrorism | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - NSA And GCHQ Allegedly Spying On Xbox Live Gamers | http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/12/09/nsa-and-gchq-allegedly-spying-on-xbox-live-gamers/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google cghq world of warcraft | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NSA and GCHQ spies 'operated in games including World of ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/video-game-news/10506017/NSA-and-GCHQ-spies-operated-in-games-including-World-of-Warcraft-and-Second-Life.html | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - NSA, GCHQ 'planted agents' into World of Warcraft, Second Life to ... | http://rt.com/news/nsa-uk-spy-world-warcraft-942/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NSA and GCHQ agents spied on online gamers using World of ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/nsa-and-gchq-agents-spied-on-online-gamers-using-world-of-warcraft-and-second-life-8993432.html | Jan 28 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - World of Spycraft: NSA, GCHQ hacked WoW and Xbox Live, other ... | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/world-of-spycraft-nsa-gchq-hacked-wow-and-xbox-live-other-games/ | Jan 28 16:17 |
| iophk | I guess Tetris was almost as popular but not as bloated. | Jan 28 16:17 |
| iophk | No space for spy stuff. | Jan 28 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's duiguised as "business model" | Jan 28 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Allowing the app to connect to the Web | Jan 28 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | sending out data, not just fetching ads | Jan 28 16:18 |
| iophk | Apparently a lot of other apps do similar leaks of info. | Jan 28 16:20 |
| iophk | M$ was getting into ad servers a while back. | Jan 28 16:20 |
| iophk | I thought that was about financial control but surveillance could have been part of it now that this comes to light. | Jan 28 16:21 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-and-microsofts-atlas-ad-server-2013-9 | Jan 28 16:25 |
| iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthof/2013/02/28/facebook-finally-pulls-trigger-buys-atlas-ad-server-from-microsoft/ | Jan 28 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Explanation Of Facebook And Microsoft's Atlas Ad Server - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/giq2y ] | Jan 28 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Facebook Finally Pulls Trigger, Buys Atlas Ad Server From Microsoft (*Updated With Comment) - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/giq2z ] | Jan 28 16:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428200711323938816 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428200916874170368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428201650114015232 | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BBC: "Google's Drummond calls for new #NSA reforms" - yeah, they all do, those corporates, for their own profits, convenience, not #privacy | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bruce Schneier: 'NSA and GCHQ have betrayed the trust of the internet' http://t.co/xclqHj4XTq #nsa #gchq #internet | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Bruce Schneier: 'NSA and GCHQ have betrayed the trust of the internet' | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Surprising it's reported as noteworthy that Google Maps is spying on users. It has been known since ~7 years ago. http://t.co/3dK2vcsuqO | Jan 28 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techradar.com | Not even Google Maps, Angry Birds are safe from NSA and GCHQ spying | News | TechRadar | Jan 28 16:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428201901780647936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428202221290147840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428202746081472513 | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Obama negotiates with his bosses (corporations) -- not people -- regarding #privacy http://t.co/lCjttIzKqD so epic. Funders decide. | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Tech giants reach White House deal on NSA surveillance of customer data | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Corporate press represents a "diversity" of views: the views of corporations as well as the views of corporations-funded politicians. | Jan 28 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #CCTV Glasses are normalising the idea of invading people's homes, bathrooms etc. with connected, always-on cameras. Spooky stuff. | Jan 28 16:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: what's the significant in today's context (FB/MSFT) | Jan 28 16:30 |
| iophk | the possibility for tracking | Jan 28 16:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | lo | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: Preston Gralla | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/23446/one-benefit-windows-phone-nsa-may-not-be-snooping-you | Jan 28 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.computerworld.com | One benefit of Windows Phone: The NSA may not be snooping on you | Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/giq6c ] | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | don't click | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the headline says it all | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Preston Gralla | Jan 28 16:41 |
| iophk | gralla again | Jan 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Use Windows... for PRIVACY :-) | Jan 28 16:41 |
| iophk | Probably uses weasel words to describe the situation. | Jan 28 16:42 |
| iophk | With FB taking in Atlas, they are getting more ties with M$ and with M$ "technology" | Jan 28 16:43 |
| iophk | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://atlassolutions.com | Jan 28 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | toolbar.netcraft.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/giq6v ] | Jan 28 16:43 |
| iophk | allows M$ to track site usage | Jan 28 16:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428204581328519168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428205509267972096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428205861568532480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206452260753408 | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Time (very pro-NSA) says the #us #government wants #nsa not to change, only to change perception http://t.co/N2nZN9VvB7 | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> swampland.time.com | U.S. Eyes Ways to Keep NSA Snooping Hidden | TIME.com | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA #Surveillance Divides the Republican Party http://t.co/VRxcWBX2ZV I hope it burns it, too | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | NSA Surveillance Divides the Republican Party - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #SAP comedy: it too pretends to be pro #privacy http://t.co/46qpvaueDz nice #PR ploy | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techradar.com | SAP and Atos team up for EU cloud standards to counter NSA threat | News | TechRadar | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA, GCHQ mapping “political alignment” of cellphone users http://t.co/Z5544iDfU2 McCarthyism much? | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | NSA, GCHQ mapping “political alignment” of cellphone users - World Socialist Web Site | Jan 28 16:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206566979158016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206724894703617 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206911482499074 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428207364123394048 | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The NSA, CIA, and the Promise of Industrial #Espionage http://t.co/ldEsGdYWdO #cia #nsa government-sanctioned crime | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.counterpunch.org | The NSA, CIA, and the Promise of Industrial Espionage » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "AT&T’s ambitions to expand in Europe have been put on ice, for now." http://t.co/X8Y4ZYz1BW good! | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> qz.com | The NSA may have done AT&T a favor by hurting its reputation in Europe – Quartz | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Cut Off the NSA's Juice http://t.co/nvvqtyhBeX if they break the law, which they do, why not cut them off? | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Article: Cut Off the NSA's Juice | OpEdNews | Jan 28 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: War and surveillance are a video games to GCHQ: Xbox Live, WoW, Angry Birds, etc. They use FPSs to recruit killers, too. Games as brainwash. | Jan 28 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | appearance http://t.co/tjffR4OlBs | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giq9d | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Automate Cloud Servers http://t.co/uDarvdUzBe | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giq9e | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance | Tux Machines | Jan 28 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps Automate Cloud Servers | Tux Machines | Jan 28 17:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428208788316098560 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209154386558976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209357860667392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209457018200064 | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Exceptionalism with assassination by flying robots http://t.co/GbeRP3fxUt http://t.co/0dfsi2OBem | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> sabahionline.com | US missile strike kills senior al-Shabaab leader in Somalia - Sabahionline.com | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> english.pravda.ru | Can other countries bomb USA like it bombs Somalia and many others? - English pravda.ru | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Should a robot decide when to kill? http://t.co/oppXd7RlTZ the Drone Defence: "I was only following algorithms. It came from a subroutine." | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theverge.com | Should a robot decide when to kill? | The Verge | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Drone strikes have crashed weddings, schools, funerals and rescuers. When will it end? http://t.co/r4xz3Z1LIk It will end by awareness | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.salon.com | The terrible human price of Obama’s drone war - Salon.com | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Peace activist raises awareness of drones http://t.co/LZIITOMUzK thank you, ma'am! | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.statesmanjournal.com | NO TITLE | Jan 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209796329009153 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428210755587276800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428211306689474561 | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US exit from Afghanistan concerns #CIA http://t.co/ZFD8VQU19j so it means it's good to exit. http://t.co/EqmMi2dLQt | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.timesca.com | Times Of Cental Asia - US exit from Afghanistan concerns CIA | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theintell.com | Our quagmire in Afghanistan - The Intelligencer: Bucks County | Op-Ed | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Feinstein thinks assassination by #drones is OK because it mostly kills Arabs (for now) http://t.co/vZLbqCqYD5 | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | Senator Feinstein discusses John Brennan, the CIA and drone strikes - YouTube | Jan 28 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Corporate press lets us select a team like a football team, but the very glorification of football cannot be challenged. Politics =~ sport. | Jan 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Morell is a moron http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/27/sochi-olympics-the-most-dangerous-games-ever-ex-ci/ | Jan 28 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Sochi Olympics the ‘most dangerous’ games ever: ex-CIA boss - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/giqa4 ] | Jan 28 17:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428212440086900736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428212917935558657 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213263193886720 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213659257819136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213958848557056 | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Daily Russophobia from Michael Moron (former# CIA boss) http://t.co/sVlh6qlyjo | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #CIA whistleblower Kiriakou’s letters from prison on #Firedoglake blog "dangerous," says Bureau of Prisons http://t.co/LBrrQ3BNpa | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> boingboing.net | NO TITLE | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US Department of "Justice" is covering up #torture http://t.co/23jyb8nXax no surprise here, but it's worth noting | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rapsinews.com | DOJ challenges journalist's claim to CIA interrogation report | Russian Legal Information Agency (RAPSI). | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Kiriakou exposed illegal torture; torturers promoted, #Kiriakou jailed. #Snowden exposed illegal spying; spies defended, Sno. fears for life | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On #CIA Prisons, Poland Sold Out for 'Pathetically Little' (Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland) http://t.co/7rz2btgwhm exporting #torture to #eu | Jan 28 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.worldmeets.us | On CIA Prisons, Poland Sold Out for 'Pathetically Little' (Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland) | Jan 28 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428216370644680704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428215184017350656 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428214917968461824 | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance http://t.co/420Ilev3jC #tizen #linux #samsung | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance - Muktware | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps Automate Cloud Servers http://t.co/P6Ej0D4s8i #linode #linux #software | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found ) | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? http://t.co/jl1CfEmfra #chromebook #google #gnu #linux | Jan 28 17:22 |
| iophk | http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/01/27/bureau-of-prisons-considers-cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakous-letters-from-loretto-to-be-dangerous/ | Jan 28 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | dissenter.firedoglake.com | Bureau of Prisons Considers CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou’s ‘Letters from Loretto’ on Firedoglake to Be Dangerous | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/giqf2 ] | Jan 28 17:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | posted already | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | see above | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | oh, nm | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I posted a link to a link | Jan 28 17:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I added both to my drafts | Jan 28 17:33 |
| iophk | the FDL goes into detail the BB link has little detail | Jan 28 17:33 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/isps-no-longer-have-to-block-the-pirate-bay-dutch-court-rules-140128/ | Jan 28 17:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/giqgf ] | Jan 28 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? | Jan 28 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eo7jqAzEY4 | Jan 28 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giqi9 | Jan 28 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? | Tux Machines | Jan 28 17:47 |
| *freedomrun has quit (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) | Jan 28 17:50 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567899 | Jan 28 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA #Surveillance Divides the Republican Party http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/nsa-surveillance-divides-the-republican-party/283351/ I hope it burns it, too | Jan 28 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | NSA Surveillance Divides the Republican Party - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/giqjo ] | Jan 28 17:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "This will probably offer a new political paradigm in which social repression is not legislated but politicians will still think they can run the economy. Not a solution but culturally notable for sure." | Jan 28 17:51 |
| Guest47366 | https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226115497250816 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/giqnn ] | Jan 28 18:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226281553940480 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/giqno ] | Jan 28 18:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226115497250816 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @glynmoody @schestowitz Wikipedian ideas of fun. I think I got them all, at least in main article space ... | Jan 28 18:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226281553940480 | Jan 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @glynmoody @schestowitz of course, half of them were what Heise laughingly called "permalinks". I THINK YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS | Jan 28 18:12 |
| Guest47366 | Publishers and writers are not the same | Jan 28 18:12 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428226629400150016 | Jan 28 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @davidgerard @schestowitz ha! | Jan 28 18:12 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a6w548L_700b.jpg | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | iophk: just been looking around Groklaw | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | for 10 minutes | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | It really is no longer maintained | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | not even behind the scenes | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | http://www.groklaw.net/index.php | Jan 28 18:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jan 28 18:21 |
| Guest47366 | It's like a fossilised site | Jan 28 18:22 |
| iophk | Right. It closed last year. | Jan 28 18:22 |
| Guest47366 | This time for real | Jan 28 18:22 |
| iophk | It probably would be safer to be put in some kind of archive mode. | Jan 28 18:22 |
| iophk | Yes. It's permanent. | Jan 28 18:22 |
| Guest47366 | In the past she spoke abouit preservation and orignisation | Jan 28 18:22 |
| *Guest47366 (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has left #techrights ("Konversation term") | Jan 28 18:23 | |
| *Guest47366 (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Jan 28 18:25 | |
| *Guest47366 is now known as schestowitz | Jan 28 18:25 | |
| iophk | The last addition to Groklaw was in Sep with a newspick | Jan 28 18:25 |
| schestowitz | FOSS news sites are growing smaller and fewer | Jan 28 18:28 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Jan 28 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Like a post-hype thing | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Even Muktware is diverting its course | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Google, Internet, etc. | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Not so focused on FOSS anymore | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary games, tech news.. | Jan 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I guess operating ina vacuum for a movement is hard | Jan 28 18:30 |
| schestowitz | because on the Web, like anywhere, we need sources | Jan 28 18:30 |
| schestowitz | in the past journalists would reach out to people, execs, etc. | Jan 28 18:30 |
| iophk | twitter and facebook are not conducive to news, just chatter | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Now we can use sites that do this, but when they become scarce/few, then it;'s getting harder to follow leads | Jan 28 18:31 |
| iophk | and in general, investigative journalism is being killed | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | if it happens only in twitter, it's not "News" | Jan 28 18:31 |
| MinceR | in general, journalism is dying | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Like announcments from W3C | Jan 28 18:31 |
| schestowitz | It becomes news when news sites write about it | Jan 28 18:31 |
| MinceR | announcements from w3c are like announcements from the north korean government | Jan 28 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Depends on how one defines journalism | Jan 28 18:32 |
| schestowitz | In the mind of the government, the purpose of journalism is to create calm among the population | Jan 28 18:32 |
| MinceR | in my mind, that's not journalism | Jan 28 18:32 |
| iophk | yes, but look at who / what is in the W3C now, that's the cause. | Jan 28 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I have 3 short articles in the pipeline.. | Jan 28 18:33 |
| schestowitz | The lady who exposed Samsung GPL violation mailed me about Tuxera doing the same | Jan 28 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Tuxera are assholes... and an embarrassment to Finland | Jan 28 18:34 |
| iophk | Yes, they are. | Jan 28 18:34 |
| MinceR | what's tuxera? | Jan 28 18:34 |
| iophk | M$ Patent resellers | Jan 28 18:34 |
| MinceR | and is it nearly as much of an embarrassment to finland as mokia? | Jan 28 18:34 |
| iophk | Selling M$ patents via Finland | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | Mokia is dead. Most people have realized that. | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | Jolla has sold out several times. | Jan 28 18:35 |
| MinceR | alarmingly many people haven't realized it | Jan 28 18:35 |
| iophk | M$ won't keep the name alive I think. They'll rebrand as M$ | Jan 28 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxC281KAUGZH9G | Jan 28 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The House Committing Un-American Activities. Remembering McCarthyism. [ http://ur1.ca/giqyj ] | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | I saw a Facebook memorial for Pete Seeger, quoting his testimony to the House Committee on Un-American Activities (the paranoid anti-communist committee). | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | "I love my country very dearly, and I greatly resent this implication that some of the places that I have sung and some of the people that I have known, and some of my opinions, whether they are religious or philosophical, or I might be a vegetarian, make me any less of an American." | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote the following: | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ahh, McCarthyism. They were so paranoid about Communism that they forced most of Hollywood, including Lucille Ball to testify, accusing them of being "Communist sympathizers". | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | The committee committed so many civil rights abuses that it got the nickname "The House Committing Un-American Activities". | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee | Jan 28 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | McCarthyism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/8vle3 ] | Jan 28 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | House Un-American Activities Committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/giqyl ] | Jan 28 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/28/3193301/climate-change-draining-great-lakes/ | Jan 28 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thinkprogress.org | The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World's Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/giqzw ] | Jan 28 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Much of it is draining out into the Atlantic because of human activity. | Jan 28 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | I was at Lake Michigan a couple of years ago. The shoreline has moved back by about 30-40 feet from the last time I was there, in the 90s. | Jan 28 19:13 |
| iophk | Many dunes are gone, too. | Jan 28 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC is planning to migrate this system to CentOS 7 with KDE when it is out... | Jan 28 19:20 | |
| DaemonFC | KDE 5 is approaching and I'm not sure about it. | Jan 28 19:20 |
| MinceR | XFCE is calling ;) | Jan 28 19:21 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430024,00.asp | Jan 28 19:24 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/angry-birds-rovio-respond-nsa-spying-revelations | Jan 28 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | Rovio Denies Providing User Data to Spy Agencies | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gir2k ] | Jan 28 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds firm calls for industry to respond to NSA spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gir2l ] | Jan 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have to provide it. | Jan 28 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | All they have to do is fail to protect it during transport. | Jan 28 19:36 |
| iophk | http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/pete-seeger-famed-folksong-crooner-writer-dead-94-article-1.1593663 | Jan 28 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nydailynews.com | Pete Seeger, famed folksong crooner and writer, dead at 94 - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/gird8 ] | Jan 28 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the iBeacon spyware was introduced in iOS 7, but the hardware to enable it has been in all iPhones and dormant since iPhone 4. | Jan 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | If you walk into a store and start getting alerts from that store on your iPhone, that's why. But it's just as likely to be used silently to track where you are in their store, accurate to within a couple of inches, so that they can profile how the customer shops in their stores and design layouts that get people to buy more stuff they don't need. | Jan 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | iBeacon meets the entire definition of spyware. It's something that the user wouldn't approve of, that leaks out personal information to untrusted third parties, and it can't be shut off or removed, even when you know about it. | Jan 28 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/01/ibeacon_shopkick_privacy_policies_for_location_tracking_apps_aren_t_clear.html?wpisrc=burger_bar | Jan 28 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.slate.com | iBeacon, Shopkick: Privacy policies for location-tracking apps aren’t clear enough. [ http://ur1.ca/gire2 ] | Jan 28 20:20 |
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| MinceR | any suggestions for a search engine that doesn't randomly discard letters from search terms when they feel like it? | Jan 28 21:37 |
| Sosumi | just read Dave Girard's mac pro review | Jan 28 22:10 |
| Sosumi | and I can't believe the guy is actually praising the thing | Jan 28 22:10 |
| Sosumi | crapple apologists everywhere | Jan 28 22:10 |
| Sosumi | only anandtech did it right, while sweeting it up a bit in order to not shut future review units sent in by crapple | Jan 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428231950013566976 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ukraine http://t.co/rawyhoPTOe | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428232723988488193 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules http://t.co/p8BbLT2IFs #censorship #europe | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> torrentfreak.com | ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules | TorrentFreak | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428233099714265088 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Every censor says he/she/it does so for noble reasons, including security (children, adults, etc.) but it ends up suppressing opposition | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428246840677781504 | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Tuxera #GPL Violations Alleged http://t.co/ATDJHqMZPF #microsoft #swpats #patent #fsf #linux | Jan 28 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Tuxera GPL Violations Alleged | Techrights | Jan 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428253069961592835 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Anti-GNU/Linux Agenda at ZDNet (Part of CBS) Noted Again http://t.co/NXwtjnHnvN #zdnet #cbs #cnet #gnu #linux #microsoft | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Anti-GNU/Linux Agenda at ZDNet (Part of CBS) Noted Again | Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428253387415883776 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "ZDNet is a technology tabloid-like news sites whose writers have many conflicts of interest" http://t.co/xffqS65Bil #ZDNet | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428260684368199680 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Microsoft’s Role in Political and Industrial #Espionage Concealed http://t.co/bdo1fpmeEe for those who weren't sure http://t.co/fug0FsaCh0 | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Role in Political and Industrial Espionage Concealed | Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jan 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428263327270440960 | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA Watch: GCHQ/NSA Gang Up Against Servers, Hide Violations, Face Blowback http://t.co/FsVzDRR5JK nsa #fbi #gchq #surveillance #police | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | NSA Watch: GCHQ/NSA Gang Up Against Servers, Hide Violations, Face Blowback | Techrights | Jan 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428266666024501248 | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: News Snapshot: The Decline of Civility http://t.co/79uhh23LBd #police #humanrights #civilrights #techrights #uk #ukraine #us #turkey | Jan 28 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | News Snapshot: The Decline of Civility | Techrights | Jan 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428266666024501248 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428279979055398912 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NetNeutrality is Dead in the West. Now What? http://t.co/TBwRTnXjiy #uk #us #internet #web #censorship | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Net Neutrality is Dead in the West. Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428282665565839361 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: DRM is Coming to the Web (as ‘Standard’). Now What? http://t.co/hTTPqfWM5v #drm #w3c #internet #web #eu #europe #dmca #copyright | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | DRM is Coming to the Web (as ‘Standard’). Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428291178896044032 | Jan 28 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Censorship Has Taken Over the Web. Now What? http://t.co/Ja4WUJO9xz #censorship #internet #www | Jan 28 22:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Censorship Has Taken Over the Web. Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 22:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/d6iXWbTaZG | Jan 28 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gis5s | Jan 28 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 28 23:04 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 28 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Jan 28 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2Q8sKEwaTx | Jan 28 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gisfm | Jan 28 23:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Tux Machines | Jan 28 23:55 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | Why doesn't signing up for Medicaid count as being insured when a person was not insured before they qualified for Medicaid? | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't understand. It's not good insurance, but it's better than nothing in the sense that diving into a pool of electric eels is better than nothing when you really need to go for a swim. | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | Truth is that the reimbursement rates are so low that most of the doctors that take it are really third rate or outright committing fraud to get more money out of the program. It would have been better to expand Medicare. | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/06/why-is-russia-so-homophobic/276817/ | Jan 29 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theatlantic.com | Why Is Russia So Homophobic? - Olga Khazan - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gisyg ] | Jan 29 01:29 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3DFXGC8HPO5IU | Jan 29 03:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Bernie Sanders debating Michelle Bachman on CNN. [ http://ur1.ca/gitg4 ] | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid anti-vax/anti-science Fundie witch that screams over everyone else vs. The guy that should be our next president. | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | *grabs the popcorn* | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | It would be a mistake for India to sign off on the TPP in its current form. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | It would be the medical and computing equivalent of bringing rabbits to Australia. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing it will do for them is bleed them dry since almost all of the patents are owned by foreigners. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it wouldn't be entirely unfair to call the TPP "patent colonization". | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | Rich countries have ganged up to bleed other countries dry. It's definitely a big enough mistake to allow software-related patents in, but drug patents actually kill people. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Scott's corruption, by itself, has cost Florida tax payers more than the combined fraud in all needs-based welfare, put together, several times over. | Jan 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost funny. | Jan 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Scott is so corrupt, that he even has Republicans saying "Holy shit, this guy is corrupt!". | Jan 29 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was kind of pissed when it was MLK day and I couldn't even get a haircut because that was closed too. | Jan 29 03:32 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3568032 | Jan 29 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearancehttp://www.muktware.com/2014/01/first-samsung-tizen-smartphone-makes-appearance/20118 | Jan 29 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/giud2 ] | Jan 29 07:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | You missed a space before http:// …"77777" | Jan 29 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'http:' ( status 0 @ http:// ) | Jan 29 07:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3566880 | Jan 29 07:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable http://www.linuxfederation.com/bleeding-edge-linux/ | Jan 29 07:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone [ http://ur1.ca/giqfz ] | Jan 29 07:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | \o/ Sabayon \o/"77" | Jan 29 07:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/428304398930808834 | Jan 29 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz Thanks 4 tweet! The CryptoParty is part of a week long Free Software festival http://t.co/N6N2lk3FeJ #BitCoin #freeyourandroid | Jan 29 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> freeasinfreedom.org.uk | Free Software Festival – Manchester | FSFE - MCR | Jan 29 07:12 |
| *nj3ma is now known as nj3ma_Zzz | Jan 29 07:13 | |
| *nj3ma_Zzz is now known as nj3ma | Jan 29 07:26 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3568317 | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Sawant takes $40,000 of salary, rest goes to “Solidarity Fund” | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_edd5afd2153276d90bbc.jpg | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blog.seattlepi.com | Sawant takes $40,000 of salary, rest goes to “Solidarity Fund” - Strange Bedfellows — Politics News [ http://ur1.ca/giuhm ] | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sounds good." | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567998 | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Daily Russophobia from Michael Moron (former# CIA boss) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/27/sochi-olympics-the-most-dangerous-games-ever-ex-ci/ | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.washingtontimes.com | Sochi Olympics the ‘most dangerous’ games ever: ex-CIA boss - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/giqa4 ] | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Mike Morrell! :D" | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567859 | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Obama negotiates with his bosses (corporations) -- not people -- regarding #privacy http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/27/tech-giants-white-house-deal-surveillance-customer-data so epic. Funders decide. | Jan 29 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Tech giants reach White House deal on NSA surveillance of customer data | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/giuhq ] | Jan 29 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Walking dead tech giants." | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | No more subsidies from CIA? | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "^^ agree, the NSA has killed US tech industry as we know it. Only free software companies might survive and they too will have NSA's stink on them." | Jan 29 07:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428427815969882113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428428394720931840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428428964017999872 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428430908497334273 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428431609378123776 | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World’s Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away http://t.co/Uo3FvS9fNb wars over water to come | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thinkprogress.org | The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World's Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away | ThinkProgress | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ad networks are selling us out to the #nsa http://t.co/P4HjckJBpd http://t.co/Cgdx5osxyY | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.pcmag.com | Rovio Denies Providing User Data to Spy Agencies | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds firm calls for industry to respond to NSA spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "This app follows you while you shop—and it needs a clearer privacy policy." http://t.co/P3Z8V9cm3u #privacy | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slate.com | iBeacon, Shopkick: Privacy policies for location-tracking apps aren’t clear enough. | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "media like to focus on the party lifestyles of the rich and glamorous" -Neelie on WEF http://t.co/inlgqeSxe7 she also attends Bilderberg | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ec.europa.eu | Ensuring Jobs for the Future - my blog from Davos - European Commission | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Linux is the only supported OS Intel has mentioned for either the original single-core Quark or the dual-core model" http://t.co/n8zYVBdrHw | Jan 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> linuxgizmos.com | Intel headgear to offer fast offline voice processing · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 29 07:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428432768201424896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428433567174385664 | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Upstart #SolidXK Distro Seeks First Business Customers http://t.co/ydRAWtUwgo "unofficial Linux Mint Debian Edition with KDE" | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | Upstart SolidXK Distro Seeks First Business Customers | Linux.com | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Android PCs and other Windows-alternative desktops are for real http://t.co/NT4EwdxsPo #android #linux | Jan 29 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | OwnCloud Documents to bring Open Document Format editing to private cloud | ZDNet | Jan 29 07:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428435301745590272 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428437164696031232 | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? http://t.co/Y2LRxCL6nC #mintlinux #gnu #linux | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? - FOSS Force | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Is Fry a closeted fan of Gates, or just a useful revisionist? http://t.co/sYCzkZCdlr that's how history is being warped.... | Jan 29 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: This time it's serious • The Register | Jan 29 08:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VA9DQXStEB | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupg | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This time it's serious http://t.co/4hs7nr7fmf | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giuph | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/J7KEi5DiFi | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupi | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: This time it's serious | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/U0PbAnsidE | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupj | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run Linux on a Chromebook | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mVcMFNovni | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupk | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | How to run Linux on a Chromebook | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428438684422393856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428439888829349888 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428440518457319424 | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking http://t.co/eXU7BpUn0f #dell #linux | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Even North #Korea Loves #Linux and Open Source http://t.co/1lrCS75YyG http://t.co/QJfjaf8cYE safe from NSA? | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thevarguy.com | Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | North Korea embraces Linux and Open Source | ITworld | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How to run Linux on a Chromebook http://t.co/ijGfkA3nUm #gnu #linux #chromebook | Jan 29 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | How to run Linux on a Chromebook | ITworld | Jan 29 08:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567818 | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR." (using sex in attempt to cause suicide) http://destee.com/index.php?threads/j-edgar-hoovers-letter-to-dr-martin-luther-king-jr.41917/ MLK died later | Jan 29 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> destee.com | J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. | Black People Meet | African Americans | Destee [ http://ur1.ca/giuqa ] | Jan 29 08:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "One of the assassins of Malcolm X, Talmadge Hayer, met with John Ali the night before Malcolm's assassination. John Ali was a high ranking member of the Nation of Islam and is now known to have been an FBI informant. He routinely fomented tension between Malcolm and other members of the NOI as well as between Malcolm and the leader of NOI, Elijah Muhammad." | Jan 29 08:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kanelsmak retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking http://t.co/J7KEi5DiFi' | Jan 29 08:18 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567815 | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/27/leaking_smartphone_apps_nsa_gchq/ http://news.sky.com/story/1202083/angry-birds-nsa-and-gchq-harvest-apps-data http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/27/nsa-gchq-smartphone-app-angry-birds-personal-data | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know - thanks to ANGRY BIRDS • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/giuqc ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.sky.com | Angry Birds: NSA And GCHQ Harvest Apps Data [ http://ur1.ca/giuqd ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds and 'leaky' phone apps targeted by NSA and GCHQ for user data | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gih28 ] | Jan 29 08:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "NSA cat is watching you, CodeHero." | Jan 29 08:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It sure is Will, it sure is." | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "LOL, a little birdie told them." | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They probably have the best porn too. I wonder what they spend their day doing :P" | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567864 | Jan 29 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CCTV Glasses are normalising the idea of invading people's homes, bathrooms etc. with connected, always-on cameras. Spooky stuff. | Jan 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Non free cameras are spooky." | Jan 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Esp. with wi-fi | Jan 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Oh yes, thanks, I still have it online. I also have a few incomplete opinions up, such as why people should not use Bing, and how Bruce Byfield is an ass. I've been having more fun with model airplanes lately than I have tangling with jerks. Sooner or later, I have to finish writing that Bing essay. | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | My IP address recently changed due to Mediacom failure. I try to keep that up to date on my diaspora, g+ and other pages. From there, you can navigate to where I'm trying to collect my opinion pages | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/rc_models/model_index.html | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | My RC Models [ http://ur1.ca/giur2 ] | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/people/0b0498e2475ba7a6 https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/about | Jan 29 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | Will Hill - Información - Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/giur5 ] | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ugh! opinion pages and I still have it online were supposed to lead you to the relevant pages. I wonder how I typoed that." | Jan 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/ | Jan 29 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | Index of /photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/ [ http://ur1.ca/giure ] | Jan 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/ | Jan 29 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ] | Jan 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428446238074101760 | Jan 29 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why You Should Not Use Duck Duck Go http://t.co/u5AHlxT62l worth repeating because many fools on the Web promote it | Jan 29 08:35 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428446540630605824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428447027639619584 | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers http://t.co/1RaPtB6meS #linux #virtualization | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers | Linux.com | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report http://t.co/jXVmGyUpRI hopefully #intel will abandon this world. #crime | Jan 29 08:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report - Muktware | Jan 29 08:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report | Jan 29 08:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trippaers http://t.co/MemOK8XdVY | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mIEV31BXEX | Jan 29 08:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2655425 | Jan 29 08:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gartner.com | Samsung Retains Position as the Top Global Semiconductor Customer in 2013, According to Gartner [ http://ur1.ca/giuy1 ] | Jan 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428448307950923776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428449606159306752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428451978851926016 | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 http://t.co/YdjxibtJCq #pcbsd #unix | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #debian still debating init systems http://t.co/rimQr8rmdc | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Debian Init System Discussion Is Still Unsettled | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses https://t.co/23jpcb8bjH #holland #freedom | Jan 29 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses | Joinup | Jan 29 09:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428453074425098240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428458060810842113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428458459181625344 | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA industrial espionage http://t.co/XCobMPxzDl #machon on #espionage by #nsa | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | NSA industrial espionage - Using Our Intelligence | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: SUSE and Amazon, two companies that pay #microsoft for #linux have provide #nsa back doors, get together http://t.co/pNCjV44TBI | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ciol.com | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server now available on AWS GovCloud - CIOL | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? http://t.co/SHwY7ggapj #linux #arduino | Jan 29 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.drdobbs.com | Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Dr Dobb's | Jan 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428461304966565888 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428463140125556737 | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award http://t.co/bEuMiKme6N #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linux | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Links 29/1/2014: Games http://t.co/JuwX0OH23L Applications http://t.co/OUcX2BbegC Instructionals http://t.co/0zFVNt70NR | Jan 29 09:44 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Applications | Techrights | Jan 29 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Instructionals | Techrights | Jan 29 09:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/29/1273288/-GOP-Congressman-Threatens-to-Kill-Report-After-SOTU | Jan 29 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: GOP Congressman Threatens to Kill Reporter After SOTU (Video) [ http://ur1.ca/giv63 ] | Jan 29 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solution Award http://t.co/o2RjIdA9Er | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/VQryKR0YdI | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/jg0uMWVm1P | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/ZxzfeAKrKy | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:46 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 29 09:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428464738524475392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465029013577728 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465399253188608 | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Security experts explain how the NSA and GCHQ may be harvesting data from smartphone apps like Angry Birds" http://t.co/4yViyxCdA4 | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.telegraph.co.uk | How 'leaky' smartphone apps are sending your data to the NSA - Telegraph | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "U.S. president also called for patent reform" http://t.co/Y6Rb4eOoFd based on what #NSA 'reform' means, it's PR/public consent seeking | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.techworld.com | Obama touches on NSA reform in State of the Union address - Techworld.com | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA privacy fears driving business back to UK hosting providers http://t.co/9oeUnoxEaH oh, back to #gchq arms. #uk #FogComputing | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.computing.co.uk | NSA privacy fears driving business back to UK hosting providers - 28 Jan 2014 - Computing News | Jan 29 09:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465948316946432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428466327561723904 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428466846636208128 | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The article from Computing mostly quotes Jones (whom I habitually speak to at the gym); but his firm uses Hyper-V (Trojan horse), Windows | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Tossing figures at the public without informing those whom the #nsa spies on is not "transparency", it's nonsense http://t.co/Q4HzkSbY0n | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | US Companies Allowed To Publish NSA Data Request Numbers | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA scandal: Germans hold out for ‘change they can believe in’ http://t.co/8l3WFpgWiD #germany should grant #snowden permanent asylum | Jan 29 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NSA scandal: Germans hold out for ‘change they can believe in’ — RT Op-Edge | Jan 29 09:58 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428476880938074113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428477042406227968 | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NYT improperly redacted latest NSA leak doc, revealing name of agent and a target http://t.co/aMRxiNcmRX #nsa #nytimes | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Article: NYT improperly redacted latest NSA leak doc, revealing name of agent and a target | OpEdNews | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: AT&T CEO: met European officials, NSA affair affecting business http://t.co/n4PI4BDchZ #europe #nsa | Jan 29 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> uk.reuters.com | AT&T CEO: met European officials, NSA affair affecting business | Reuters | Jan 29 10:38 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/court-orders-google-to-pay-1-36-of-adwords-revenue-for-infringing-patents/ | Jan 29 10:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Court: Google infringed patents, must pay 1.36 percent of AdWords revenue | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/givmd ] | Jan 29 10:52 |
| iophk | "Vringo also sued Microsoft over ads in its Bing search engine. Microsoft settled that case in May, agreeing to pay $1 million plus 5 percent of whatever Google ultimately pays." | Jan 29 10:53 |
| iophk | Fueling the attack on Google. | Jan 29 10:53 |
| gde33 | what is facinating about it is that google didn't update the advertisement, it was always the same old garbage. Now if they want to everything is patented. | Jan 29 10:59 |
| gde33 | it was very weird how they refused to update the cash cow | Jan 29 10:59 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite | Jan 29 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/givo5 ] | Jan 29 11:02 |
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| nj3ma2 | great news that | Jan 29 14:17 |
| nj3ma2 | gov.uk ditching m$ | Jan 29 14:17 |
| Sosumi | while they are at it, why not ditch the entire thing? | Jan 29 15:37 |
| iophk | It would be good if it happened, but they are still in the talking phase. | Jan 29 15:40 |
| iophk | They need to move quickly to avoid interference from M$ | Jan 29 15:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428524333284466688 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428522745601982464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428520358892044288 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428519647840043008 | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Exercising freedom https://t.co/uxvsUaPX6I use and defend your rights or lose them | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On our necks https://t.co/S0aGBP6JNj #consumerism #debt | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dodging espionage - new infographic https://t.co/NVL7XqeEHq the only way to go, safely | Jan 29 15:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Big win for Free software in the UK http://t.co/5yfr3KWUDS now they talk about it publicly | Jan 29 15:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428517939407749120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428516613160464384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428514179285540864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428513216751493120 | Jan 29 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: When papers did not report on readers https://t.co/kS9MuQhADr | Jan 29 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Facebook sends phone data to NSA and ads companies including Microsoft http://t.co/F2bUJantn9 | Jan 29 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Free surveillance https://t.co/BqyIcOi9is | Jan 29 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: A traitor to war http://t.co/Z5LcDQrod1 | Jan 29 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | nj3ma2: thanks for the news! | Jan 29 15:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | We'll probably put in a bid :-) | Jan 29 15:50 |
| nj3ma2 | :-) | Jan 29 15:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will do an article about it later | Jan 29 15:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | like Munich, this could set off other govs on the same route | Jan 29 15:52 |
| iophk | Once there are a few, there will be a rush. | Jan 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Good for people who deploy and support foss, MS will surely try to bribe politicians to change course, but I doubt the bribe budget is enough after the NSA scandasls | Jan 29 15:53 |
| iophk | Didn't Spain go FOSS also? Extremadura comes to mind, but they've dropped out of the media. | Jan 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Some bribves budget was spent tryint o make OOXML/MS OFFICE looK like "standard" | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | brb | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Also snowden got nominated | Jan 29 15:54 |
| iophk | Bribes may need to be bigger now but there are still those that push M$ for ideological reasons. | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Today we got 7 good pieces of news here (personal stuff) | Jan 29 15:54 |
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| Sosumi | I actually think every government should have an IT department capable of rolling out their infrastructure without outside interference | Jan 29 16:03 |
| Sosumi | *own | Jan 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428558452290781185 | Jan 29 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #uk government's promise to move to Free/libre software and #odf does not seem like a PR ploy this time around. Will cover it later. | Jan 29 16:03 |
| Sosumi | well, at least, only relying on hardware vendors | Jan 29 16:03 |
| Sosumi | but doing the software in house based on foss | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570646 | Jan 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why You Should Not Use Duck Duck Go http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/ worth repeating because many fools on the Web promote it | Jan 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> 173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ] | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sorry, but a lot of this still doesn't make sense to me. This concludes with "If you are going to use a US based search engine, it might as well be Google." which is absolutely insane if you actually read the article. All of the reasons stated for not using DDG are equally applicable to Google so why use them as an argument against DDG and to use Google? It may be unfair to gain users through exploiting NSA stories, but Google is | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | still USA-based and just as susceptible to FISC orders. It seems like a wash either way." | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Using Google is not wise, I don't agree with this conclusion | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | and properly tailoring their systems for the specific task they are performing | Jan 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If you are going to let yourself be spied on, you might as well get something out of it. DDG and many other search engines pollute their results with Bing, Microsoft's "Decision Engine" which is misleading on top of being spied on. Google's search results are still excellent. | Jan 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wish that I knew of an honest alternative that gave excellent results. That is changing through copyright/DMCA takedown censorship and other pressures, but at the time of writing, it was true. I wish that I knew if TOR or proxies would protect your privacy but I don't. These things were beyond the scope of my essay which was why you should not trust DDG. | Jan 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 16:05 |
| nj3ma2 | some attempts at building a federated, distributed search engine have been made | Jan 29 16:09 |
| nj3ma2 | like you crawl your little corner of the web | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | I crawl mine | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | we join efforts | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | not much success so far | Jan 29 16:10 |
| nj3ma2 | but worth the try | Jan 29 16:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/amd-reveals-its-first-arm-processor-8-core-opteron-a1100/ | Jan 29 16:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | AMD reveals its first ARM processor: 8-core Opteron A1100 | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gixcu ] | Jan 29 16:11 |
| iophk | nj3ma2: you mean like YaCy? | Jan 29 16:12 |
| Sosumi | good, but we need an actual alternative to intel | Jan 29 16:13 |
| iophk | Oracle could have run with Sparc instead of suffocating it. | Jan 29 16:13 |
| Sosumi | yes | Jan 29 16:13 |
| nj3ma2 | iophk: exactly | Jan 29 16:13 |
| Sosumi | and IBM could relaunch the intellistation | Jan 29 16:13 |
| iophk | IBM has put $1 billion into Power and has ditched x86 | Jan 29 16:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | no, IBM claims that | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the 1 billion figure | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's just marketing | Jan 29 16:14 |
| iophk | It was the number they cited. | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Big Blye tries hard to paint itself as a sysadmin's friend | Jan 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And this was in LinuxCon | Jan 29 16:14 |
| iophk | http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41926.wss | Jan 29 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www-03.ibm.com | IBM News room - 2013-09-17 IBM Commits $1 Billion to Fuel Linux and Open Source Innovation on Power Systems - United States [ http://ur1.ca/ghle2 ] | Jan 29 16:15 |
| iophk | The press release suggests the money will be spent on more than marketing. | Jan 29 16:16 |
| Sosumi | can't some pressure be put on them? | Jan 29 16:18 |
| Sosumi | or make them see that there is some demand for ppc based workstations? | Jan 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | bribes? PR? | Jan 29 16:19 |
| iophk | probably the former might work | Jan 29 16:19 |
| iophk | if big enough | Jan 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | i mean, what they spent the money on | Jan 29 16:19 |
| Sosumi | well, if you bribe me with a new intellistation | Jan 29 16:19 |
| Sosumi | I'll test it for free | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | it work on both ways :) | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | *works | Jan 29 16:20 |
| iophk | :) | Jan 29 16:20 |
| MinceR | the usual deal is 'you give me a new product and i write a 100% positive review about it' | Jan 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | so what you're offering is inferior :> | Jan 29 16:21 |
| Sosumi | only apple does that | Jan 29 16:22 |
| Sosumi | and they don't even need to employ trolls like M$ or EA does | Jan 29 16:23 |
| Sosumi | the cultists do it for them | Jan 29 16:23 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | [16:16] <iophk> The press release suggests the money will be spent on more than marketing. | Jan 29 16:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That;s not what I was saying | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The numbers are marketing, not the spendings | Jan 29 16:38 |
| iophk | ok | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wrote two articles about it at the time | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wrote many pieces criticising IBM too | Jan 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | last one was 2 days ago, re NSA collab | Jan 29 16:38 |
| iophk | I recall that one. | Jan 29 16:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They also spoke to me on the phone when I confronted them | Jan 29 16:40 |
| iophk | Did they say much of interest? | Jan 29 16:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yuppie Nuremberg defence | Jan 29 16:44 |
| iophk | Not much of a surprise. | Jan 29 16:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They are quite pretentious | Jan 29 16:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | A lot of the management is in NY and NJ area, so enough said... | Jan 29 16:47 |
| iophk | They were used to selling based on just the name for a very long time. | Jan 29 16:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, rightly perhaps | Jan 29 16:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think they're very expensive now | Jan 29 16:51 |
| iophk | They were expensive then too. | Jan 29 16:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and with outsourcing and all I'm not sure how good they and other multinationals are ATM | Jan 29 16:51 |
| iophk | Tech people used to be really upset with the, but at the same time management fawned over them. | Jan 29 16:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The bank I left replaced senior staff with kids | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and the service was shut | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *shit | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Today i spoke to an old lady, my mom's age, at a building society | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | we are moving our savings there | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | She was so much kinder than all those who are selected probably because they're paid less | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | IBM has done this for years | Jan 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cringley posted many good articles about it in 2012 | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think it is based on people feeding him info | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he really nailed it into IBM | Jan 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428570991166361601 | Jan 29 16:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Now it can be tracked by the #NSA easier. :D | Jan 29 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Space Hulk released for Linux | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XvRa1w21to | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixnz | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD tries to kickstart ARM-for-servers | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ecosystem http://t.co/wK3t0SoWoK | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo0 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Space Hulk released for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free software and ethical consumption | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AZyk1vMBCr | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | AMD tries to kickstart ARM-for-servers ecosystem | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo1 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Free software and ethical consumption | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Java-based malware driving DDoS botnet infects | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows, Mac, Linux devices | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/pyPTLuRqLL | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo2 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Java-based malware driving DDoS botnet infects Windows, Mac, Linux devices | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Our Voice-Over-IP Phone System | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Mb1Ha8Fd5b | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo3 | Jan 29 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up Our Voice-Over-IP Phone System | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570727 | Jan 29 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/dutch-city-ede-spends-92-percent-less-its-peers-software-licenses #holland #freedom | Jan 29 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gixr1 ] | Jan 29 17:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So much for all that FUD from Microsoft ..."77" | Jan 29 17:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570869 | Jan 29 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Security experts explain how the NSA and GCHQ may be harvesting data from smartphone apps like Angry Birds" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/10601359/How-leaky-smartphone-apps-are-sending-your-data-to-the-NSA.html | Jan 29 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.telegraph.co.uk | How 'leaky' smartphone apps are sending your data to the NSA - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gixr3 ] | Jan 29 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Never liked that game anyway :P"77" | Jan 29 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | After finishing 3 of this series my wife and I got bored (Star Wars) | Jan 29 17:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | We finished Original, Seasons, and Rio. | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "autant que les lapins crétins. Parcontre j'aime Rayman" | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Je déteste Angry Brids! Je haie ses gros oiseaux dés le départ !!!" | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570869 | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | autant que les lapins crétins. Parcontre j'aime Rayman"7" | Jan 29 17:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3571551 | Jan 29 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook sends phone data to NSA and ads companies including Microsoft http://i.imgur.com/qzKhTQI.png | Jan 29 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Holy moly, look at all the stuff demanded. Send email without you knowing it. Turn on your microphone, change your volume, read your address book again, turn on and off other applications, cover other applications up, read and write to your call log. That's about as complete control of your cell phone as can be imagined. Microsoft really hates email and loves to spam people with it."77" | Jan 29 17:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3571581 | Jan 29 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Big win for Free software in the UK http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite now they talk about it publicly | Jan 29 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/givo5 ] | Jan 29 17:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I'm not impressed. Timid talk about using "open source" has been going on for about a decade. Didn't BECTA say this kind of thing but then buy Microsoft over and over? In the mean time, whole branches of government in France, Germany and Italy moved to free software and dumped Windoze completely."77" | Jan 29 17:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Some parts of UK gov are already moving to FOSS, they just don't talk about it publicly | Jan 29 17:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They learned from Bristol, Birmingham, Munich, etc. (retaliation, bribes, etc.) | Jan 29 17:17 |
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| iophk | Yeah, I forgot about BECTA. They talked about FOSS for a bit all the while appeasing M$ | Jan 29 17:50 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/becta-fails-the-open-source-test-3039256053/ | Jan 29 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Becta fails the open source test | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gixyo ] | Jan 29 17:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428584968025956352 | Jan 29 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @Morality124 @schestowitz apparently, but even so... | Jan 29 17:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428584738421350400 | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @glynmoody @schestowitz It's easy to live in a bubble it seems. | Jan 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | re https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428583663047962624 | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped - http://t.co/RP226F5klR wow, naive much? #privacy | Jan 29 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.cnet.com | Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped | Technically Incorrect - CNET News | Jan 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | CNET | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | CBS | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | NSA boosters | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | anyway, no point feeding it | Jan 29 17:53 |
| iophk | nah | Jan 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | besides the point of really criticising this appealling oligacch. CNET *CBS) still grooming him and NSA... | Jan 29 17:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/tag/becta/ | Jan 29 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theopensourcerer.com | The Open Sourcerer » Becta [ http://ur1.ca/gixzc ] | Jan 29 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Like talking about Obama's swatting of a fly while on TV rather than swatting of thousands (humans) by drones | Jan 29 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Let's all dilute the news (CBS) by talking about the Brand ("Gates") and say something pointless about NSA... | Jan 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585470495162368 | Jan 29 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @glynmoody @schestowitz You think the NSA betrays him for the cooperation he has provided over the years? (Windows exploits et al.) | Jan 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585001748135936 | Jan 29 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: Rich bubble RT @glynmoody Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped - http://t.co/CpTpKFSxsa wow, naive much? #privacy @schestowitz | Jan 29 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585470495162368 | Jan 29 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has rhe back doors, that's old news. Everything to distact from Davod now.... | Jan 29 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has the back doors, that's old news. Everything to distract from Davos now.... | Jan 29 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428584738421350400 | Jan 29 18:00 |
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| iophk | The petitions are getting treated as seriously by the public as by the administration: | Jan 29 18:35 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 29 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 29 18:35 |
| iophk | contrast | Jan 29 18:36 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-net-neutrality-open-internet-and-our-economy/rJrLRtkw | Jan 29 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Protect Net Neutrality, the Open Internet and Our Economy | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyb6 ] | Jan 29 18:36 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-net-neutrality-directing-fcc-classify-internet-providers-common-carriers/5CWS1M4P | Jan 29 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Restore Net Neutrality By Directing the FCC to Classify Internet Providers as "Common Carriers". | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/ggira ] | Jan 29 18:37 |
| iophk | http://hub.coe.int/event-files/our-events/28-january-data-protection-day | Jan 29 19:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hub.coe.int | 28 January - Data Protection Day - Council of Europe [ http://ur1.ca/giyjk ] | Jan 29 19:17 |
| MinceR | 172245 < Sosumi> only apple does that | Jan 29 19:25 |
| MinceR | i've heard msft did it too | Jan 29 19:25 |
| MinceR | (especially when they tried to pit lipstick on vista) | Jan 29 19:25 |
| MinceR | s/pit/put/ | Jan 29 19:25 |
| Sosumi | talking of vista | Jan 29 19:29 |
| Sosumi | I wander on how easy it is to bypass the UAC | Jan 29 19:29 |
| MinceR | very easy, especially in vista7 | Jan 29 19:29 |
| MinceR | at least without any sp-s | Jan 29 19:29 |
| Sosumi | and how many users, stupidly, run windows with it disabled | Jan 29 19:30 |
| MinceR | you just name your executable so it's on m$'s list and ask for privileges | Jan 29 19:30 |
| MinceR | the list included things that would never need it, of course | Jan 29 19:30 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 29 19:33 |
| Sosumi | http://enenews.com/scientist-back-from-japan-ive-seen-data-showing-highest-radioactivity-levels-in-ocean-that-have-been-observed-recently-nhk-radioactive-waste-may-be-leaking-directly-from-the-buildings-not-j | Jan 29 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | enenews.com | Scientist back from Japan: I’ve seen data showing highest radioactivity levels in ocean that have been observed recently — NHK: Nuclear waste may be leaking “directly from buildings” not only going into groundwater via tunnels (VIDEOS) [ http://ur1.ca/giyqh ] | Jan 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/232-pat | Jan 29 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.turnerradionetwork.com | SURPRISE: You're Eating Fukushima Radiation and Bloody, Cancerous Tumors in Fish Contaminated By Radiation [ http://ur1.ca/giyqk ] | Jan 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | can't check the validaty of the images, but I wouldn't be eating anything from the pacific anyways | Jan 29 19:53 |
| Sosumi | *validity | Jan 29 19:53 |
| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/apple-results-q4-wow-this-was-far-worse-than-i-thought.html | Jan 29 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Apple Results Q4 - Wow this was far worse than I thought... [ http://ur1.ca/giyzk ] | Jan 29 20:28 |
| iophk | "Yes it is now a fact, we've seen 'peak iPhone' in its market share - and now the iPhone will adjust gradually towards the historically consistent market share that the Macintosh has held in the PC market which will be single digits by the end of this decade definitely." | Jan 29 20:29 |
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| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/01/28/the-mad-strip-club-orwell-search-habits | Jan 29 20:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.madmagazine.com | The MAD Strip Club — Orwell: Search Habits | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/giz82 ] | Jan 29 20:58 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2545465/Forget-global-warming-worry-MAGNETOSPHERE-Earths-magnetic-field-collapsing-affect-climate-wipe-power-grids.html | Jan 29 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | Forget global warming, worry about the Earth's MAGNETOSPHERE | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/giz9d ] | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | been hearing that since 05 | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | no one cared | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | and no one still cares | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | lets just buy solar panels and windfarms | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Sosumi | and earth is still a closed system, yeah, solar activity, cosmic streams have no impact on weather | Jan 29 21:05 |
| Sosumi | and I'm not joking | Jan 29 21:06 |
| Sosumi | they actually said the "system", earth, behaved like that | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Sosumi | back when I was in the 10th grade and had biology | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Sosumi | which was also in 2005 | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Sosumi | of course some of us said that was wrong | Jan 29 21:08 |
| Sosumi | but nvm, if it was like that on the book | Jan 29 21:08 |
| Sosumi | then it must be true | Jan 29 21:08 |
| MinceR | http://www.exitmundi.nl/poleshift.htm | Jan 29 21:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.exitmundi.nl | Oh When The Poles Come Marching In | Jan 29 21:11 |
| Sosumi | just don't go outside | Jan 29 21:14 |
| Sosumi | and stay in places that you already know that can't penetrated by EMF radiation | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | aka if you can't get a cell phone signal | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | then it is safe | Jan 29 21:15 |
| MinceR | "just two things of which you must beware: / don't drink the water and don't breathe the air." | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | also, the sun might expand and engulf everything up to mars | Jan 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | and we concerned about the poles | Jan 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | that will happen a tiny bit later | Jan 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 29 21:18 |
| Sosumi | and why shouldn't we also be concerned about the other poles | Jan 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | might as well say "who cares, entropy will be maxed out eventually. also, all particles will decay." | Jan 29 21:19 |
| MinceR | the West Pole and the East Pole? | Jan 29 21:19 |
| Sosumi | those are just a reference based to the south and north pole :P | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Sosumi | I meant the polish | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Sosumi | polish, poles, you know, basically the same thing | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Sosumi | http://www.totem-pole.net/images/totem_poles.jpg | Jan 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | well, not sure | Jan 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | i'm kinda worried about them | Jan 29 21:21 |
| Sosumi | if a totem pole falls and there's no one there to witness the fall | Jan 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | they seem to be fundifying themselves | Jan 29 21:21 |
| Sosumi | does it make a sound? | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | they've already banned abortion for religious reasons | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | some of their nazis seem to want to turn poland into hungary | Jan 29 21:22 |
| Sosumi | I'd be more concerned about their pension funds | Jan 29 21:22 |
| MinceR | well, if they follow the hungarian path then they won't have any pension funds | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | and hungary is kind of sounding more like "u hungy"? | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | oops | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | "u hungry" | Jan 29 21:23 |
| MinceR | no, it's sounding more like a future depopulated zone | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Sosumi | kind of just like poortugal | Jan 29 21:24 |
| Sosumi | with the desertification of the interior | Jan 29 21:24 |
| Sosumi | and an abysmal natality rate | Jan 29 21:25 |
| Sosumi | that was already abysmal in 2004 | Jan 29 21:25 |
| MinceR | that's the one thing i don't mind | Jan 29 21:25 |
| MinceR | there are too many people around here anyway | Jan 29 21:25 |
| Sosumi | has become much worse after the 2008 "financial blowjob" | Jan 29 21:26 |
| Sosumi | well, but if we were to rebuild this nation | Jan 29 21:26 |
| Sosumi | we'd actually need some labor | Jan 29 21:27 |
| MinceR | people should realize that nations are irrelevant | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | and the current population numbers, besides being mostly unqualified | Jan 29 21:27 |
| MinceR | or they could just kill each other over belonging to different "nations", that's fine too | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | they're not enough | Jan 29 21:27 |
| Sosumi | yes, but even then we still need to manage this rectangle | Jan 29 21:28 |
| Sosumi | and you know, back in the days | Jan 29 21:28 |
| Sosumi | we left the rectangle because it wasn't enough | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | at the present time | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | the only way to make the rectangle profitable is to invest in high tech stuff and have it done here | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | but meanwhile they are cutting scholarships and investment in education | Jan 29 21:29 |
| Sosumi | in order to appease speculators in the city of london and in wall st | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | instead of doing what I've suggested | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | and probably countless of others | Jan 29 21:30 |
| MinceR | still better than turning education into religious brainwashing in order to appease nazis | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | including that guy Tsipras in greece | Jan 29 21:31 |
| Sosumi | ban derivatives and freeze the debt | Jan 29 21:31 |
| Sosumi | for as long as the crisis continues | Jan 29 21:31 |
| Sosumi | and have the ecb churn tranches of money for infrastructure building | Jan 29 21:32 |
| Sosumi | like high speed rails interconnecting all europe | Jan 29 21:32 |
| Sosumi | we kind of need a couple more dams in order to coupe with the dry seasons | Jan 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | specially up the north | Jan 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | and we actually need a new plan for the dams | Jan 29 21:34 |
| Sosumi | since the current one was conceived prior to 1975 | Jan 29 21:34 |
| Sosumi | and kind of hasn't received any update | Jan 29 21:34 |
| Sosumi | 1968 to be precise | Jan 29 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/9Vg4I650EY | Jan 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gizkd | Jan 29 21:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:50 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx98OTM0WM9LOK | Jan 29 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Chicago is being robbed by the company that it gave the privatization contract to run its parking meters. [ http://ur1.ca/gizxn ] | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://truth-out.org/news/item/21466-costs-of-privatization-hidden-in-plain-sight | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The company that Chicago gave its parking meters to is suing them, claiming that the state needs to pay them money to compensate it for road repairs, which "cost the company money in lost parking meter fees". | Jan 29 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | truth-out.org | Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight [ http://ur1.ca/gizxt ] | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana is also being robbed by the company that Mitch Daniels sold the toll roads to. He gave them a 75 year contract in 2006, all of the money is gone, and the company is claiming that Indiana owes it money because it is getting less toll road fees than it thought it would when it signed the contract. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Even without that, they would make more money in the 75 years than they paid for the contract. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Privatization is often proposed by right-wing politicians who claim that it will save money. The companies that get the contracts almost never run things cheaper than the state was. The first thing that the toll road company did in Indiana was jack up the toll and stop maintaining the roads. They're full of potholes now, and the fee for driving on them has doubled. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's Republicans passed a law that gives them a pass to drive on the toll road for free. Many Indiana House and Senate Democrats refused to use the pass, and kept paying the toll. | Jan 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | err ,city | Jan 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3LFQOMZNLVGFE | Jan 29 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Obama's high school pot dealer who he thanked for the 'good times' [ http://ur1.ca/gizyh ] | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The majority of adults in the United States admit to having smoked pot at least once, and I'm sure the number rises even higher when you account for the ones that have and are lying about it. | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Recreational marijuana usage is not a scandal. Medicinal use is even less controversial. Please go back to the 1950s where the other right wing social beliefs are waiting for you. | Jan 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The laws just need to catch up. The majority of American adults could have theoretically been imprisoned at some point under just this one law. | Jan 29 22:55 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Chik Fil Meh doles out free diabetes, obesity, heart disease, and colorectal cancer to stranded motorists. Stranded by *snort* three inches of *BWAHAHAHAAAAA* three inches of snow... *BAHAHAHAAAA!!!!* Sorry. | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | A snowstorm in the South is about as rare as a living brain cell in a room full of conservative Christians.... | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | How the hell do you get stuck in three inches of snow? | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Are you driving a Geo Metro? | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | A little bit of snow, and these southern fried morons are having pile ups and declaring emergencies and shutting down the roads. They need to drive in Indiana a couple of times. The roads don't get closed here until they actually become impassable. A couple of weeks ago, I was driving down a state highway in a white out blizzard where I could occasionally figure out what lane I was in, and I managed to make it about 40 miles each way without any | Jan 29 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | real trouble. | Jan 29 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Office out of office across the UK | Jan 29 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | government? http://t.co/7xQXERhyib | Jan 29 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj060 | Jan 29 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Office out of office across the UK government? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 23:36 |
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| DaemonFC | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 29 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 29 23:46 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 30 00:03 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 30 00:15 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be fine with Obama if he still did smoke pot. | Jan 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | There are thousands of things that the FDA says are Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS, HEHEHE), that are not as safe as pot. | Jan 30 00:56 |
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| DaemonFC | I got my 28 cent refund check from the BMV this morning. | Jan 30 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I just deposited it with my phone. :P | Jan 30 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/naturopathic-physicians-and-affordable-care-act | Jan 30 01:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Naturopathic Physicians and the Affordable Care Act | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/gj0sr ] | Jan 30 01:27 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | Jan 30 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Nothing in the ACA requires private insurers to cover "alternative medicine", and most of them don't cover it because they know it is worthless. | Jan 30 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I've never seen a health insurance policy that did cover it, except maybe some limited chiropractic coverage for lower back pain. | Jan 30 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Which is about the only thing that chiropractors are good for. | Jan 30 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines As free software users, we need to speak out | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | against the TPP http://t.co/FHlFdyxPSA | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj0u2 | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | As free software users, we need to speak out against the TPP | Tux Machines | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $3 billion: Confirmed http://t.co/KA6fDbCAlM | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj0u3 | Jan 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | I have a chiropractor that I see for lower back pain from time to time. | Jan 30 01:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $3 billion: Confirmed | Tux Machines | Jan 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | He was included in an insurance plan that I had when I worked at a warehouse. | Jan 30 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | It covered two visits per month for free, so I took them. | Jan 30 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4NzA | Jan 30 01:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Future Of Fedora Spins Is Questioned With Fedora.Next [ http://ur1.ca/gj0ug ] | Jan 30 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why having additional spins is controversial. | Jan 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're benign to anyone that wants a different spin. | Jan 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4Njk | Jan 30 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Radeon DRM Gets A Few More Fixes For Linux 3.14 [ http://ur1.ca/gj0ur ] | Jan 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | The kernel-side radeon support for the 6000 series and older is basically complete as of Linux 3.13. | Jan 30 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Aside from some bug fixes, there's not much more to be done in the kernel. | Jan 30 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | New versions of Mesa are the big performance wins now. | Jan 30 01:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android PCs finally destroy Windows on the | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop? http://t.co/f9RGqEoGfa | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b2 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13 Gets Its First Update | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jZYV9npUgt | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b3 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Homerun 1.2.0 http://t.co/MhJsDno4jg | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b4 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Will Android PCs finally destroy Windows on the desktop? | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iaUovB6JeD | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13 Gets Its First Update | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b5 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Homerun 1.2.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Firefox Add-ons for Social Media Junkies | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XfOFdgzTKH | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b6 | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Best Firefox Add-ons for Social Media Junkies | Tux Machines | Jan 30 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I got my 28 cent refund check from the Indiana BMV settlement. | Jan 30 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | Now if I could just find a time machine somewhere, I could go back to 1990 and get myself a Pepsi out of the vending machine. | Jan 30 06:34 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574500 | Jan 30 09:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Latest FOSS FUD Revolves Around Fakes and Bogus Arguments http://techrights.org/2014/01/29/foss-discredited-over-security/ | Jan 30 09:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | The Latest FOSS FUD Revolves Around Fakes and Bogus Arguments | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3fz ] | Jan 30 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's amazing how Microsoft recycles this trash for decades. They pour it on until people believe it. Fewer people believe it these days, I hope." | Jan 30 09:00 |
| iophk | It's also a distraction for the poor way that Windows manages software installation | Jan 30 09:00 |
| iophk | *from | Jan 30 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | today is the last day we can migrare tux machines | Jan 30 09:08 |
| iophk | can it be done? | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I might have to extend no-ip | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | 25 dollars | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | the VM is not ready yet... | Jan 30 09:08 |
| iophk | oh | Jan 30 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | yesterday tux machines got record traffic for ther month | Jan 30 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | 107k hits for the day | Jan 30 09:10 |
| iophk | nice | Jan 30 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | 96k pages | Jan 30 09:10 |
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| iophk | Approximately how many visitors from that? | Jan 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | 14k | Jan 30 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Review, Ubuntu Happenings, and Zorin | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS http://t.co/YN7KXuUMhX | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3mv | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Red Hat's Roger Egan Joined Docker | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/reePxBehHn | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Review, Ubuntu Happenings, and Zorin OS | Tux Machines | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3mx | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why Red Hat's Roger Egan Joined Docker | Tux Machines | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Like Arduino? Miniaturize your project with | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TinyCircuits http://t.co/YHwy9XrHfD | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3my | Jan 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Like Arduino? Miniaturize your project with TinyCircuits | Tux Machines | Jan 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573447 | Jan 30 09:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Heavily Taxed by #PatentTroll (Not a Real Company) That #Microsoft Gave Patents to http://techrights.org/2014/01/29/vringo-and-google/ #swpats #vringo | Jan 30 09:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "The US judicial and regulatory system is a bad joke. 1.36% of AdWord revenue is huge. That's on top of the endless Android lawsuits and regulatory scrutiny that Microsoft is miraculously able to push Google's way. I'm so ashamed of my government." | Jan 30 09:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Google Heavily Taxed by Patent Troll (Not a Real Company) That Microsoft Gave Patents to | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3np ] | Jan 30 09:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574576 | Jan 30 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Serious petitions like https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-net-neutrality-open-internet-and-our-economy/rJrLRtkw get discredited by nonsense and celebs https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 30 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Protect Net Neutrality, the Open Internet and Our Economy | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyb6 ] | Jan 30 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "This whole site is a joke. They keep changing the rules to ensure nothing productive gets done." | Jan 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz__ | ""Serious petitions"? Please." | Jan 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "^lol'd" | Jan 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz__ | I agree, they dodge the people and their requests by upping limits. The whole thing is a farce like a ballot box, designed only to give the illusion that the government is serving people, not corporations and oligarchs | Jan 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574358 | Jan 30 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debunking charades http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/21529-a-silent-coup-jeremy-scahill-bob-herbert-on-corporate-military-interests-shaping-obamas-sotu | Jan 30 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | "A Silent Coup": Jeremy Scahill & Bob Herbert on Corporate, Military Interests Shaping Obama's SOTU [ http://ur1.ca/gj3p9 ] | Jan 30 09:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "I saw them on Democracy Now! this morning and their analysis of the President's SOTU was spot on." | Jan 30 09:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573204 | Jan 30 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Copyright Law Still All About #Protectionism , Needs Revision | Jan 30 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Copyright Law Still All About Protectionism, Needs Revision | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3pc ] | Jan 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "It has always been about protectionism." | Jan 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3572522 | Jan 30 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "If he wins, it will only contribute to the hollywoodization of the resistance... I had enough of prizes, heros, bad guys, good guys, donzels in distress and all that bullshit! The only thing I see is structures of power creating entertainment. I hope, if the time comes, that he deny the award... but i guess thats asking too much..." | Jan 30 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when a Chinese got a political Nobel peace prize? Well, the US is having a "China moment" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-29/snowden-nominated-by-norwegian-lawmakers-for-nobel-peace-prize.html | Jan 30 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.bloomberg.com | Snowden Gets Nobel Nomination as U.S. Pursues Trial - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/gj3pl ] | Jan 30 09:37 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: http://yle.fi/uutiset/crisis-hit_southern_europeans_try_their_luck_in_finland/6632002 | Jan 30 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yle.fi | Crisis-hit southern Europeans try their luck in Finland | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/gj3r8 ] | Jan 30 09:45 |
| iophk | Yeah, there are growing communities. | Jan 30 09:46 |
| iophk | Also in Sweden last year they took in around 50,000 of just refugees. That's a whole town | Jan 30 09:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574557 | Jan 30 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight http://truth-out.org/news/item/21466-costs-of-privatization-hidden-in-plain-sight | Jan 30 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight [ http://ur1.ca/gizxt ] | Jan 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Most of the cases of privatization that I have seen go very badly are concerning services for which there is not a reasonable way to opt out or to have competition. #Monopolies of any form breed #corruption, #exploitation, and tend to be #facist. In this particular instance, the deal should have been rejected entirely on the grounds that it could not be evaluated in the time provided. 686 pages of complex, dense legalese is | Jan 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | impossible to process in two days." | Jan 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574236 | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Manufactured Nuclear Crisis http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/01/manufactured-crisis/ they also tried to manufacture gas attack crisis in #syria as they did in #iraq & #korea | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ipsnews.net | A Manufactured Nuclear Crisis - Inter Press Service [ http://ur1.ca/gj3ux ] | Jan 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "Meanwhile Fukushima, a real nuclear crisis, can't get arrested." | Jan 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573997 | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: James Clapper calls for Snowden and 'accomplices' to return #NSA documents http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/james-clapper-condemns-snowden-senate-testimony he doesn't know how digital stuff works? | Jan 30 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | James Clapper calls for Snowden and 'accomplices' to return NSA documents | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gj3v9 ] | Jan 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "I call for Clapper to return the US Senate to a place of honesty (good luck) and to return the US to a country that follows it's own constitution (even better luck...)"" | Jan 30 09:54 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/30/arrest-of-charlie-shrem-shows-dangerously-repressive-u-s-police-system/ | Jan 30 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | Harassment Arrest Of Charlie Shrem Shows Dangerously Repressive U.S. Police System - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gj3yz ] | Jan 30 10:01 |
| iophk | bit of a misinterpretation of the GPL. It requires that the changes (freedom) be paid forward, not what this license does: | Jan 30 10:07 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/computer-hardware/open-compute-pushes-gpl-license-open-source-hardware-235205 | Jan 30 10:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Open Compute pushes GPL-like license for 'open source hardware' | Computer hardware - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj42t ] | Jan 30 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Standards and Open Source make a great | Jan 30 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pairing http://t.co/9Zwx74ISuI | Jan 30 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj45e | Jan 30 10:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open Standards and Open Source make a great pairing | Tux Machines | Jan 30 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | This video has been banned in the UK | Jan 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84T2i5PCMxw | Jan 30 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Nice Way Code Think Horse - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gj465 ] | Jan 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | When NSA buddy Microsoft accuses Google of being poor on privacy on British broadcast, then that's OK with ASA... | Jan 30 10:20 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/30/uk_picks_open_document_format_for_all_government_files/ | Jan 30 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | UK picks Open Document Format for all government files • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gj4hk ] | Jan 30 11:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.18.3 Release Allows the Use of | Jan 30 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Elementary 1.9 or Later http://t.co/MRIslWO4xz | Jan 30 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj4wa | Jan 30 12:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Enlightenment 0.18.3 Release Allows the Use of Elementary 1.9 or Later | Tux Machines | Jan 30 12:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | iophk: any followup on that? | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Other than the announcment? | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | i have another post coming, but no news really since yesterday | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | A bunch of us now work on getting Tuxera in the mud | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | On 01/29/2014 at 2:28 PM, "Bradley M. Kuhn" <compliance@sfconservancy.org> wrote: | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | rxrz, | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I appreciate that you have written to us rather than attempting to take | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | action yourself. While I know Snowden-like activities are popular these | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | days, I assure you that they only make it more difficult for Conservancy | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | to enforce the GPL. Specifically, the Samsung matter was more difficult | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and more time consuming for Conservancy to deal with because of the | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | "code leaks". Conservancy has very limited resources for GPL | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | enforcement, so I appreciate that you aren't making our job harder here | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | by contacting us early and discussing it before taking action. | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Meanwhile, I've read the materials that you shared with us. However, as | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | it stands, we cannot take action specifically because: | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | rxrz@hush.ai wrote at 01:23 (EST): | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | > Right now the original blob files have been removed from github by | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | > repository's maintainer | Jan 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz__ | ... I can't witness any active distribution of this file at this time. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't being distributed, but I need to | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | see it being distributed actively to take action here. More details | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | below: | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | If you could tell us what specific product this software appears in, we | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | can research further. The ideal would be to show us a publicly | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distributed firmware available online from the company who incorporated | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | this software in their product. Since that sometimes doesn't occur, the | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | next best thing is to give us the exact model of a product that you know | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | for sure contains this software. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Please note that a "cease and desist" of a violation is a reasonable | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | response to resolve a GPL violation (even though it's not our preferred | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | solution). If Tuxera (and its downstreams) are no longer distributing | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | infringing software, the GPL violation is likely "resolved" -- at least | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | to a point whereby it'd be very difficult for us to take immediate | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | action (unless they violate the license again). | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Brad, meanwhile, if you have a direct interest in joining Conservancy's | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers, I can talk with you about | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | that. Your direct involvement would make it easier for us to take | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | action on this matter. However, we can admittedly take action, since | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | your work is part of a larger GPL'd whole work, which is copyrighted by | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | many people some of whom are already in the GPL Compliance Project for | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Linux Developers. Nevertheless, contact me on a separate thread if you | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | would like to join our compliance coalition. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > I would like to request an official statement from a representative of | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > Tuxera concerning this particular driver and have the complete source | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > code for this product, since it has been distributed under GPL license | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > and is based on the driver taken from Linux kernel tree. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't recommend that at this point. I don't yet see a clear chain of | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distribution that puts the binary in your hands completely | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | legitimately without any questions. The right next step is to figure | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | out what product this binary driver appeared in, and examine the | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | physical product and/or a firmware legitimately obtained from a | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distributor to verify the violation. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I look forward to your next correspondence. | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | -- | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Bradley M. Kuhn, Executive Director, Software Freedom Conservancy | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | (home of BusyBox, Samba, and the GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers) | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Jan 30 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575710 | Jan 30 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debian policy of no proprietary drivers is comprising convenience for freedom http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.762.8 been there before | Jan 30 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.goodbyemicrosoft.net | Debian 7: In Search of the Lost Driver - Goodbye, Microsoft® [ http://ur1.ca/gj4y1 ] | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "This, incidentally, is yet another example of why the most important tool for a Linux installation is a second computer, connected to the Internet. OR the most important tool for a GNU/Linux DEBIAN installation is a little search of supported drivers before install the new version/distro ... In the same time, Debian is known for this kind of "problem" which is not in fact if you know the Debian's policy. This is the same with | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Triskel, indeed. I could be more surprised if this kind of problem appeared with Ubuntu, Mint, Or Suse which include lot of non-free/proprietary drivers." | Jan 30 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't say that for you Roy, only for the author" | Jan 30 12:43 |
| iophk | schestowitz__: no followup yet on the ODF announcement, just that the Reg picked it up after the others | Jan 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of articles yesterday | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | latest on tuxera | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Hello, Bradley. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you, I appreciate the work you're doing as well. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The case with Samsung has proven to me that we cannot trust even to the largest corporations when it comes to | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | being compliant and respecting the effort of many developers who believe in and contribute to FOSS. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I hope you understand that many people including myself felt that it was a very serious violation of trust, no | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | matter under which conditions Samsung had to hide the original Linux code from us. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Not being public is a hard task for me, and I would like to tell you that I have my trust in you to contribute effort for handling this case. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The file is still available via that repo's history and in my forked repo right here: | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://github.com/rxrz/asuswrt-merlin/tree/master/release/src/router/tuxera/broadcom/hfsplus/kernel-module | Jan 30 13:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | github.com | asuswrt-merlin/release/src/router/tuxera/broadcom/hfsplus/kernel-module at master · rxrz/asuswrt-merlin · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/giucz ] | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Doesn't it matter that ASUS had this file in their development bundle? Tuxera had "HFS+ Embedded" available | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | since June '11 (https://web.archive.org/web/20110401000000*/http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-hfs-embedded) and it makes it more that 2 years from today's date. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The driver's version which came out of Asus' tar is dated with Nov of '13, which makes it still about 2 years as this product has been available. I would say it's a small chance Tuxera "forgot" to put the proper license in there, an even smaller chance they haven't sold a single copy of this product in 3 years. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | web.archive.org | Internet Archive Wayback Machine [ http://ur1.ca/gj56w ] | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | To me it's a no-brainer: Tuxera's been selling this driver for years now, it's based on Brad Boyer's source code, they got caught (thanks to Asus). We've got a proof, that they've been selling a product which is a 90% result of hard work of people from our community. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I believe It is our common job to keep things right and fair. | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I do feel for Samsung being caught between two trains of M$'s patents and Linux' free license. But the fact that they've been selling a product based on code from Linux tree, for years, and not returning any money they literally stole from honest developers who contributed their free time to support FOSS and GPL, makes me feel quite bad. They didn't have to do that, but nobody forced them to use the code from the vfat driver as a | Jan 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | base. In the end they didn't pay any fines, they ended up being heroes by open-sourcing the driver. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I am 100% sure it is exactly the same case this time, except there were no patents involved. It never will be neither fair in case with exFat nor in case with HFS+ even if they give up the source to the product they most likely originally stole from Brad. None of us have money for a lawyer to sue violators of GPL and companies seem to be happy to abuse this fact. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | They won't pay anybody for stealing the product, even though they made a fortune out of it. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I have a small question: | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Let's imagine for a second they haven't used Brad's GPL'd source as a base for their product, but still sold an HFS+ driver written from scratch under GPL (even a single copy)... | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | can we require the source code legally from them? | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Speaking of Snowden's contribution to society, honestly, I lost the rest of my trust in proprietary software companies. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I am not surprised at all by Tuxera stealing code and selling as their own, I've been more surprised by Samsung being involved in the theft of vfat Linux code. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | My goal is to get the source to the complete Linux HFS+ driver. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I will get the proof of them selling this driver as a product in the past. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | -rxrz | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | P.S. | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Have a small question, off the record: why do companies get sued for let's say, using software they didn't purchase in their products, but when it comes down to selling products based on free software, in violation to GPL, companies don't get in trouble? It just feels wrong to me that we can only count on them to just release the source once they get caught and not pay any money they stole by using readily available open software? If | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | companies do not respect GPL and just do whatever they want then what's the point of having licenses at all? | Jan 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Jan 30 13:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://www.infoworld.com/d/security/filezilla-warns-of-large-malware-campaign-235227 http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/unauthorized-versions-filezilla-steal-data-circulation/ | Jan 30 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | FileZilla warns of large malware campaign | Security - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj5ke ] | Jan 30 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.digitaltrends.com | File Stealing Version of FileZilla is Making Its Way Around Internet | Digital Trends [ http://ur1.ca/gj5kf ] | Jan 30 14:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Linux dominates the mobile market | Jan 30 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JTwO9EmiiX | Jan 30 15:04 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux dominates the mobile market | Tux Machines | Jan 30 15:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2 Brings OpenCL Calc, OOXML | Jan 30 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements http://t.co/Z2dT2xZOY2 | Jan 30 17:03 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.2 Brings OpenCL Calc, OOXML Improvements | Tux Machines | Jan 30 17:03 |
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| iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2093100/godaddy-owns-up-to-role-in-twitter-account-hijacking-incident.html | Jan 30 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | GoDaddy owns up to role in epic Twitter account hijacking | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj6qj ] | Jan 30 17:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Keep Tabs on Income and Expenses with My | Jan 30 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expenses for Android http://t.co/unjEntDwuu | Jan 30 17:44 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Keep Tabs on Income and Expenses with My Expenses for Android | Tux Machines | Jan 30 17:44 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/att-develops-credits-system-to-limit-file-sharing-bandwidth-140129/ | Jan 30 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | AT&T Develops Credits System to Limit File-Sharing Bandwidth | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gj6xl ] | Jan 30 17:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/ukrainian-police-use-cellphones-to-track-protestors-court-order-shows/ | Jan 30 18:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Ukrainian police use cellphones to track protestors, court order shows | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gj6xu ] | Jan 30 18:00 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/nn81/status/428958293130616832 | Jan 30 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nn81: The collection @schestowitz articles @black_duck_sw : http://t.co/TcpBG0xK0O True or Fiction? | Jan 30 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights | Jan 30 18:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575935 | Jan 30 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Companies that use terms like "community manager" reveal their real attitude towards volunteers. Say "coordinator" or "leader", not manager | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Very true. Most of the community managers I've dealt with were less interested in listening and understanding than they were with having me swallow a set of talking points. They waste everyone's time. | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | After some thought, I like the term community representative and think that it's a legitimate thing to do. Communications manager, even that sounds like perception management. I agree with other people here that "leader" and "coordinator" also imply control or manipulation. Representative is an honest term and implies two way communication representing the company to the community and the community to the company. That's a valid and | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | useful specialization and division of labor. People busy coding need others who are good at listening to make sure everyone understands each other | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575935 | Jan 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "analogical to richard stallman's quote "open source is what the industry can accept but free is where they need to end up"" | Jan 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575522 | Jan 30 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## This video has been banned in the UK | Jan 30 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | Nice Way Code Think Horse - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gj465 ] | Jan 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "Awesome! Here they shouldn't see deer..., a fellow cyclist found traps in the nearby forest where we cycle. And I don't think they were for bugs. :(" | Jan 30 19:33 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jan 30 19:40 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428987417475829761 | Jan 30 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Hard to say; "improved OOXML support" seems to be common phrase in LO changelogs. Almost like it's maintenance not enhancement | Jan 30 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428990178984591360 | Jan 30 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Microsoft Offers $100 Credit For People Who Trade In PS3 For Xbox One http://t.co/70Ucdyw9v2 via @consumerist | Jan 30 21:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> consumerist.com | Microsoft Offers $100 Credit For People Who Trade In PS3 For Xbox One – Consumerist | Jan 30 21:00 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3576348 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: "Samsung shipped 320 million smart phones in 2013" http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/samsung-makes-eu-push-via-60-carphone-warehouse-samsung-exclusive-stores/20171 | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| schestowitz__ | "The Belgian phone companies Belgacom and Base will not be very happy when they get to know that. What other brands of smart phones will be left over for them to sell? Mobistar already has the exclusive deal to sell iPhones." | Jan 30 21:15 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-speeches.html | Jan 30 21:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fsf.org | Where in the world is Richard Stallman? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/kdjv ] | Jan 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 10, 2014 01:00 PM Helsinki, Finland Event "The Path to Digital Freedom" | Jan 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 11, 2014 01:00 PM Helsinki, Finland Event Richard Stallman to speak in Helsinki, Finland | Jan 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 20, 2014 07:00 PM New York, NY Event "A Free Digital Society" | Jan 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 21:44 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 31 10:38 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: hi | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | morning, MinceR | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a quick question | Jan 31 10:41 |
| iophk | sure | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | say you have site A with DNS pointing to X | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and site B with DNS pointing to Y | Jan 31 10:41 |
| schestowitz__ | when you move DNS from X to Y | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | can you expect no downtime? | Jan 31 10:42 |
| iophk | I think so, but | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | i see requests served OK, but it seems like some machines (esp. in our house) still go nowhere when looking up the address | Jan 31 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that nameserver migrations without downtimes are sometimes like that, but I want to be sure before we leave the house for 5 hours | Jan 31 10:43 |
| iophk | it looks like also a matter of changing authoritative name servers | Jan 31 10:43 |
| schestowitz__ | on the same network, the tablet reaches the old server | Jan 31 10:43 |
| schestowitz__ | And the phone and laptop reach nowhere | Jan 31 10:43 |
| iophk | It may be your cache | Jan 31 10:44 |
| iophk | On two networks, I get the new ip for the hostname | Jan 31 10:44 |
| iophk | lemme check one more... | Jan 31 10:44 |
| schestowitz__ | gotcha | Jan 31 10:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Is this host-level cache like /etc/hosts? | Jan 31 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Becfuse changing broewsers has no effect | Jan 31 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Wher eis DNS cache? | Jan 31 10:45 |
| iophk | The third one is ok. | Jan 31 10:46 |
| schestowitz__ | maybeit'a cached at the hub | Jan 31 10:46 |
| iophk | I'm not sure how it is all cached, if it is still looking for the old name server it will still get the old address. | Jan 31 10:46 |
| iophk | Which nameserver to use might be cached | Jan 31 10:46 |
| schestowitz__ | the problem is. it does not even connect to the old server, escept the tablet | Jan 31 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | it accesses the old site | Jan 31 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | the others get nowhere | Jan 31 10:47 |
| iophk | Did you get the old registrar to drop the name? | Jan 31 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | nope. not afaik | Jan 31 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe it checks the IP against the DNS and finds a mismatcxh or something | Jan 31 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | But it does seem to be working for everyone (so far as I know) except us | Jan 31 10:49 |
| iophk | might be two registrars fighting it out for the authoritative answer | Jan 31 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I'll try my web proxy | Jan 31 10:49 |
| iophk | what about setting the old registrar to point to the new, static ip? | Jan 31 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't know how to change registrars details in that way | Jan 31 10:50 |
| iophk | I'm getting the new ip on a 4th net, too. | Jan 31 10:51 |
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| schestowitz__ | it works from the proxy | Jan 31 10:52 |
| schestowitz__ | and pages load as I would hope, inc. sub-sections | Jan 31 10:52 |
| schestowitz__ | So I think it's safe to leave it at that and try access from home later on | Jan 31 10:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I have some posts to publish later, i tried to make almost 10 yesterday, I didn't sleep well because the moigration wasn't complete before 3am | Jan 31 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | bbl | Jan 31 10:53 |
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| iophk | https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-free-speech/internet-you-know-and-love-danger | Jan 31 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.aclu.org | The Internet You Know and Love is in Danger | American Civil Liberties Union [ http://ur1.ca/gjcd2 ] | Jan 31 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alternet.org/economy/20-richest-americans-are-greedy-takers-not-inspirational-makers | Jan 31 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.alternet.org | The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gjchs ] | Jan 31 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: They included Bill Gates. | Jan 31 11:30 |
| iophk | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129544.500-why-you-should-care-about-the-end-of-net-neutrality.html | Jan 31 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.newscientist.com | Why you should care about the end of net neutrality - tech - 29 January 2014 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/gizfd ] | Jan 31 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/mate-makes-ubuntu-trusty-repo/19165 | Jan 31 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.muktware.com | MATE makes it to Ubuntu Trusty repo | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gjd65 ] | Jan 31 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like MATE is going to do OK. | Jan 31 13:37 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/p/3580968 | Jan 31 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joindiaspora.com | The "we are all i... | Jan 31 17:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3580968 | Jan 31 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "we are all in this together" propaganda ignores the fact that the rich increase their wealth at double-digit % per year, Queen has shares | Jan 31 17:24 |
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| iophk | Chinese new year today. | Jan 31 17:39 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://pod.asap-soft.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_f482f98798c9047e368a.jpg | Jan 31 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: yeah, no dragon dances here | Jan 31 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but about 10k lanterns around city centre | Jan 31 17:45 |
| schestowitz__ | They probably bought them for like a pound each to appease the Chinese cpmmunity (we have Chinatown here) after the waste of money for Jan 1st | Jan 31 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday in Techrights http://t.co/EKcbhcJIOl | Jan 31 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjej3 | Jan 31 17:46 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3582549 | Jan 31 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' | Jan 31 18:06 |
| schestowitz__ | The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' http://www.alternet.org/economy/20-richest-americans-are-greedy-takers-not-inspirational-makers including the biggest thief who buys the press, Gates | Jan 31 18:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | iophk: thanks for the links | Jan 31 18:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I am catchingm up with lots from ysterday | Jan 31 18:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Professional Video Editor `Lightworks` 11.5 | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Goes Stable For Linux http://t.co/TwC5LuJvis | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjesc | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bigger, better, faster: LibreOffice 4.2 | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DuoNCVcAOM | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjesd | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD’s first ARM processors to feature 8-core | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers http://t.co/5XMwYfIH2h | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjese | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android lose market share to other | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | versions of mobile Linux? | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/zOgc2uLwnR | Jan 31 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjesf | Jan 31 18:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It’s Not Just Android: 3 Upcoming Linux Mobile | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Operating Systems http://t.co/oYXA5dZoIx | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfd8 | Jan 31 19:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Kernel Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 13.10 | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/u3ilYKcr9U | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfd9 | Jan 31 19:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Moonlight: Yet Another Linux Desktop | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Environment http://t.co/WXq0fo2o08 | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfda | Jan 31 19:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Reaches Version | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.19.5 http://t.co/5pHzzQ9AUS | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfdb | Jan 31 19:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Pinguy OS 13.10 Beta 3 | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/S5rudmj65s | Jan 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfdc | Jan 31 19:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines RT-enhanced Linux stack aims at comms gear | Jan 31 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/LPzgFcXsB0 | Jan 31 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfl3 | Jan 31 20:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Video of the Week: Sailfish Mobile OS | Jan 31 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates http://t.co/aViRU540jy | Jan 31 20:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Pays To Sell GNU/Linux | Jan 31 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/m6W4jAVqEb | Jan 31 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfl8 | Jan 31 20:30 |
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| DaemonFC | In the hospital, two 1 cent aspirins are $50 and a $1 bag of sterile saline IV solution is $800. | Jan 31 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 31 21:32 |
| abeNd-org | sick people = profit! | Jan 31 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3KBTKO4NALE1U | Jan 31 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana's Republicans sue to protect your right to be poisoned by mercury, because something something something economy. [ http://ur1.ca/gjg0w ] | Jan 31 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2014/01/30/indiana-biz-groups-challenge-epa-climate-change-rules/5061715/ | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana utility rates are expected to have a modest increase due to EPA regulations limiting mercury pollution. Indiana spewed about 46,000 pounds of mercury into the air last year. | Jan 31 21:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.indystar.com | Indiana biz groups challenge EPA climate change rules [ http://ur1.ca/gjg0x ] | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | It says that the EPA is accepting public comments. I asked them to finalize the new regulations and to please fight Indiana in court if they have to. | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | From the article: | Jan 31 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | "The increase includes the cost associated with taking mercury and other toxins out of power-plant emissions to meet new rules. (Indiana is among the states challenging those rules in federal court.) " | Jan 31 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Intel Galileo Walkthrough | Jan 31 21:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD Open-Source OS Comes to the PC-BSD | Jan 31 21:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenSSH 6.5 released http://t.co/C7AXJheE3M | Jan 31 21:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A look at ROSA Fresh R2 LXDE Edition | Jan 31 21:54 |
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| MinceR | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10605328/EU-has-secret-plan-for-police-to-remote-stop-cars.html | Jan 31 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | EU has secret plan for police to 'remote stop' cars - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gjb7h ] | Jan 31 22:20 |
| *MinceR suggests remote detonation feature as well | Jan 31 22:20 | |
| gde33 | that was one of my many proposals to the EU | Jan 31 22:21 |
| gde33 | they did god know howmany of them, almost as if I wrote the whole agenda | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | lmao | Jan 31 22:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | lets not do car chases and stop cars | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | if you dont like it we can run you over or something equally appropriate | Jan 31 22:22 |
| MinceR | let's be very surprised when we find out that the primary targets of this will disable the "feature" in their cars | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | smashed by a train | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:22 |
| gde33 | not as easy as you think | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | also let's be very surprised when others exploit the feature against drivers and kill them or rob them | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | or both | Jan 31 22:23 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem to difficult -- remove, disconnect or isolate the antenna that receives the command | Jan 31 22:23 |
| gde33 | then you are going to use the road but ohh it is full of cars | Jan 31 22:24 |
| gde33 | what a bummer | Jan 31 22:24 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:24 |
| gde33 | MinceR: it will be annoying, that is the point | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | no, the point is that it will kill people they didn't want to keep | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | s/keep/kill/ | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | and that it will be exploited against people | Jan 31 22:26 |
| gde33 | sure it will | Jan 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | because a bunch of fascist idiots never think anything through | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | or they just don't care | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | it's not their life that's threatened after all | Jan 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | (or so they think) | Jan 31 22:27 |
| gde33 | you just need a transportation system that works | Jan 31 22:27 |
| gde33 | switching off the machines is part of that | Jan 31 22:28 |
| MinceR | that's what the ignition key/switch is for | Jan 31 22:28 |
| gde33 | I also proposed a speed limiter | Jan 31 22:28 |
| MinceR | another great idea | Jan 31 22:28 |
| MinceR | it's not like some accidents could be avoided by speeding away from the source of the danger | Jan 31 22:29 |
| gde33 | people have this idea that people working on roads have to get killed regularly | Jan 31 22:29 |
| MinceR | (and who cares anyway) | Jan 31 22:29 |
| MinceR | well, that explains these half-baked ideas, then | Jan 31 22:29 |
| gde33 | the max speed outside my house is 5 km/h there are no sidewalks | Jan 31 22:29 |
| gde33 | it even use to have speed bumps | Jan 31 22:30 |
| gde33 | hah | Jan 31 22:30 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they saved lots of money with no sidewalks | Jan 31 22:30 |
| MinceR | sidewalks are expensive stuff! | Jan 31 22:30 |
| gde33 | it is in the way the blocks are build | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | yes, "badly" | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | basically it is one big sidewalk | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | cars are suppose to drive walking speed to the parking | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | what are cars doing on it then? | Jan 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | cars don't belong on the sidewalk. | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | sure, but there are other areas with other speed limits that dont work either | Jan 31 22:31 |
| gde33 | the max is 120 on the highway, people drive 140 | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | you are very annoying if you drive 120 | Jan 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | most people can't handle driving | Jan 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | those who can't do it shouldn't be allowed to | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | then the whole train goes in front of the camera | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | and they all get tickets | Jan 31 22:32 |
| gde33 | it's a nonsense system | Jan 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | like, if they can't learn how to keep distance, they shouldn't get to drive | Jan 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | instead of endangering me | Jan 31 22:32 |
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| gde33 | you should be able to put the pedal to the mettal | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | if they can't learn how to use turn signals, they probably can't learn most of other things either | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | so, again, don't let them drive | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | drive max speed the whole time | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | corners to! | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | if the traffic light is red, the car slows down | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | not maybe | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | we are not just going to make it | Jan 31 22:33 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | if the traffic controller computer has a glitch, you die | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | fun times | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | maybe you should remember the whole drive by wire system is going to be implmeneted? | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | not immediately, of course | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | you get to suffer for a few hours, stuck in the car, slowly crushed to death | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | Rotterdam harbor has huge storage area where only robot trucks drive | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | nothing goes wrong | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | why do you want drive by wire? | Jan 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | are cars too reliable yet? | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | no they aren't | Jan 31 22:34 |
| gde33 | they are driven by idiots remember? | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | yup | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | that's the problem | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | you should stop blaming the idiots | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | that just makes you one of them lol | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | you're not making sense | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | we need to make a good system for them | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | so that they can drive places without issues | Jan 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | we have one, it's called public transport | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | linux cars | Jan 31 22:35 |
| gde33 | public transport doesn't work | Jan 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | neither do idiots | Jan 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | and neither does the "i'll just push a few buttons randomly here on the remote control for that guy's car while he thinks he's driving it lol" | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | I do have real ideas how [public] transport should work | Jan 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | so do i | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | I'm just not going to propose those to the EU | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | they wouldnt understand | Jan 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | hungary is a pretty good example of how a public transport shouldn't and can't work, though | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | the point is that we already have robot cars here | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | many of them | Jan 31 22:37 |
| gde33 | since the 80's | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | in special environments, yes | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | not on general roads | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | it gets increasingly silly to have people crash themselves into annother for the greater good of transportation lol | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | not mixed with other modes of transport | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | sure they are | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | where? | Jan 31 22:38 |
| gde33 | they look like trucks with 2 behinds | Jan 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | never seen those | Jan 31 22:39 |
| gde33 | it is mostly pilots but it's done arround the world | Jan 31 22:39 |
| MinceR | airlines are very different | Jan 31 22:39 |
| MinceR | with all the space, you can offset them a lot more from each other (lanes too) | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | plus you don't get pedestrians, bikers, etc. | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | or crossing other modes of transport | Jan 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | also, you have an extra dimension to avoid conflicts | Jan 31 22:40 |
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| gde33 | fly by wire you mean? | Jan 31 22:41 |
| MinceR | and afaik pretty much all the planes are involved in traffic control | Jan 31 22:41 |
| MinceR | no, i mean autopilot and such | Jan 31 22:41 |
| MinceR | also, afaik traffic control isn't automatic either | Jan 31 22:41 |
| gde33 | they are working on the fliying civilian | Jan 31 22:41 |
| gde33 | the goal is cars that fly with roads in the sky | Jan 31 22:41 |
| gde33 | and fly by wire | Jan 31 22:41 |
| gde33 | so there is a kind of road in the sky | Jan 31 22:42 |
| MinceR | it's a goal, not something that's already implemented | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | here it is a goal | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | there are pilots | Jan 31 22:42 |
| MinceR | afaik fly-by-wire is merely controlling the control surfaces indirectly, though a computer | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | sure, it is very simple | Jan 31 22:42 |
| gde33 | the robot driver will just use many perhaps terrible systems side by side | Jan 31 22:43 |
| gde33 | like follow the white line | Jan 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | which is not what i'm looking for when the danger is that m$ will manage to infest these systems with their crapware | Jan 31 22:43 |
| gde33 | amazon uses robots in their warehouse | Jan 31 22:43 |
| gde33 | lol http://www.icona.nl/berlioz/fotos/DSC00168p.jpg | Jan 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | they've already infested systems that can distract the driver or even make it impossible for them to see what they're doing | Jan 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | the warehouse is a strictly controlled environment | Jan 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | the street isn't | Jan 31 22:44 |
| gde33 | a crane like on the left in the picture could easily build houses | Jan 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | and it won't wait for crossing pedestrians | Jan 31 22:44 |
| gde33 | the harbor is so controlled that if you walk on the road the trucks may all get a new planing. | Jan 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | actually it looks like it's driven by a human | Jan 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | it has a driver's cabin on the left | Jan 31 22:45 |
| gde33 | so you walk onto the road, there isn't a truck to be seen anywhee | Jan 31 22:45 |
| gde33 | but they are all planning how to avoid you | Jan 31 22:45 |
| gde33 | if there is any object on the road it deploys people to go check it out | Jan 31 22:46 |
| gde33 | all alarms go off if it isn't just perfect | Jan 31 22:47 |
| gde33 | the place also turns into a container madhouse if it isn't just perfect | Jan 31 22:48 |
| gde33 | costs serious money | Jan 31 22:48 |
| MinceR | and i suspect they don't often let people in it | Jan 31 22:48 |
| gde33 | microsoft people are stopped at the gate | Jan 31 22:48 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 22:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | I punch in telephone numbers at random at the gas station. | Jan 31 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | The grocery store loyalty card customers usually don't redeem their gas points. | Jan 31 22:50 |
| gde33 | Dutch people never build anything that isn't going to work. If there is an inch of doubt they all run away, seriously. | Jan 31 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | So at the last day of the month, I go through until I find one with a lot of points, and then I use their gas points. | Jan 31 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to find a 40 cent per gallon one today. B-) | Jan 31 22:50 |
| gde33 | hah | Jan 31 22:51 |
| gde33 | here the suppermarket has a folder with the deals in it. | Jan 31 22:52 |
| gde33 | I dont use it but some people look at it as the adventure | Jan 31 22:54 |
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| gde33 | I think a delivery suppermarket with a fancy website could be much cheaper. | Jan 31 22:57 |
| gde33 | we could make it like world of warcraft | Jan 31 22:57 |
| gde33 | have people fight over their food deals | Jan 31 22:57 |
| gde33 | hardcore battles to the death | Jan 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | no need for a website to do that, black friday already works | Jan 31 22:58 |
| gde33 | not enough carnage | Jan 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | hand out chainsaws at the entrance, then | Jan 31 22:58 |
| gde33 | sell the store client for 300 euro | Jan 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | or just popularize the idea so clients will bring their own | Jan 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | or just raise the stakes and let them figure it out | Jan 31 22:59 |
| gde33 | the de-lux shop op and shop | Jan 31 22:59 |
| MinceR | maybe overpopulation will take care of it on its own | Jan 31 22:59 |
| gde33 | my most brutal marketing innovation was to do store storage in a display next to peoples bed. | Jan 31 22:59 |
| gde33 | this moment of natural zombie | Jan 31 23:00 |
| gde33 | pick your new boots? | Jan 31 23:00 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 23:00 |
| gde33 | space population | Jan 31 23:01 |
| MinceR | i don't think people need any help to make really stupid decisions | Jan 31 23:01 |
| gde33 | 200 years mars will be infested with humans | Jan 31 23:01 |
| MinceR | they do it on their own just fine, even when their own life is at stake | Jan 31 23:01 |
| MinceR | only if humanity survives that long | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | and doesn't blast itself back into the stone age, or mad max | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | or merely let the fundies take over to the point where they will no longer be able to figure out how to continue | Jan 31 23:02 |
| MinceR | and won't care anyway | Jan 31 23:03 |
| gde33 | my best EU proposal was to have banks put a donation button on their website | Jan 31 23:04 |
| gde33 | that would salve evrything | Jan 31 23:04 |
| gde33 | we could all donate as much as we want to, as often as we like | Jan 31 23:04 |
| gde33 | ^^ | Jan 31 23:04 |
| MinceR | the hungarian government has already set up a system so you could donate to them | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | nice | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | One of my most popular ideas was the volentary tax system | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | it got support from all angles | Jan 31 23:05 |
| gde33 | the republican nazi completely agreed with the tree hugger SJF | Jan 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | also known as "charity"? :> | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | only now we call it government | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | imagine the fun we could have? | Jan 31 23:06 |
| gde33 | It would be public information | Jan 31 23:07 |
| gde33 | and we could of course refuse you services if you chose not to pay | Jan 31 23:07 |
| MinceR | isn't the current setup better? | Jan 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | where they just take the money away from you no matter what | Jan 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | and if you're in hungary, you'll either get nothing in exchange for it, or something so crap it might as well be nothing | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | no | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | the implication of just taking something from you would invetiably be people taking things from me | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | so? the zombies don't mind | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | here, at least | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | if I can talk you into just handing over your money | Jan 31 23:09 |
| gde33 | you are of course free to do that to me as well | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | governments all over the world have managed to talk people into such a one-way deal | Jan 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | see also the 'social contract' | Jan 31 23:10 |
| gde33 | could do both side by side in a transition | Jan 31 23:10 |
| gde33 | the deal was nesasary | Jan 31 23:11 |
| gde33 | we needed representation because we couldnt be all over the world at the same time | Jan 31 23:11 |
| gde33 | this is not true anymore, thats all that has changed | Jan 31 23:11 |
| MinceR | did we get representation? | Jan 31 23:11 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the nazis in fidesz don't represent me | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | I'm sure it worked at least for some people some day historically | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | it was better than nothing at all | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | at least we got lies we could believe in for our vote | Jan 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | we always got lies we could believe in | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | as a kind of "pick your own branding" | Jan 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | that's what cults were for, too | Jan 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | still are | Jan 31 23:12 |
| gde33 | vote for whatever gets your electroytes going | Jan 31 23:13 |
| MinceR | it's got what plants crave? | Jan 31 23:13 |
| gde33 | :) | Jan 31 23:13 |
| gde33 | with volentary taxes the ideas would have to be proffitable | Jan 31 23:14 |
| gde33 | imagine that lol | Jan 31 23:14 |
| gde33 | we can build windmills and solar factories if it makes financial sense | Jan 31 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | I see those books on using Android devices, and I have to wonder who reads those, and did their parents have any children that lived? | Jan 31 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Learning how to tie your shoe laces is harder than learning Android for ****'s sake... *sigh* People...... | Jan 31 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why Sprint should have to level the rainforest to print out documentation for every single thing you want to do with your Android computer, which has access to the online manuals because it has a web browser. | Jan 31 23:16 |
| MinceR | they're always profitable | Jan 31 23:16 |
| MinceR | just not for you | Jan 31 23:16 |
| gde33 | the investor doesnt get paid? | Jan 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | depends | Jan 31 23:17 |
| gde33 | that nasa court case where they didnt look at the martian mushroom. | Jan 31 23:18 |
| MinceR | you won't live on words alone :> | Jan 31 23:18 |
| gde33 | the public paid for the pictures | Jan 31 23:18 |
| gde33 | we could put it in writing how and when they are going to be compensated | Jan 31 23:18 |
| gde33 | not unusual | Jan 31 23:19 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | I always laugh when I see those Consumer Cellular commercials. | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | "It has big buttons and no features!" | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, so, like Windows 8? | Jan 31 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | *rimshot* | Jan 31 23:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 23:22 |
| gde33 | with icons so that you dont have to remember how to read | Jan 31 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think they actually said "no confusing features". Windows has no features and manages to be extremely confusing. | Jan 31 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like, why does that tile desktop POS pop up randomly and why does their window manager switch between Firefox and Firefox Private Browsing windows so that you type what you're trying to put into the private browsing window into the non-private browsing window unless you happen to close the non-private window before you use the private one? | Jan 31 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Window managers that consume 300+ MB of RAM and inexplicably switch between active windows need to be taken out back and given both barrels. | Jan 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | hypeOS has no features and manages to confuse its users and fans | Jan 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | (into believing that the hypePhone is a smartphone, for example) | Jan 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | also, inexplicably switching between active windows (or to nothing at all) is an old winblows feature, even xp had it | Jan 31 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry... Software companies that don't listen to their users, implement bloated things that are of questionable usefulness, change the user interface constantly and in inappropriate ways, and produce malfunctioning code are a nit of mine. | Jan 31 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Thankfully, I don't have to use any Microsoft or Apple products on my computers. | Jan 31 23:27 |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8030564096/h47ACF287/ | Jan 31 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | The last time I actually read a manual on how to use an operating system was when I was about 9 years old and trying to use DOS.* | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I managed to hand edit my autoexec.bat and config.sys to use emm386.exe and himem.sys to free up enough conventional and extended memory to make Star Wars:X-Wing work because 640k was not enough for anyone. :/ | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_X-Wing | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | *(I guess you could count the odd glancing of manpages if you want to be dicky about it. Learning command switches and syntax is a little different than an iPhone user trying to figure out how to tap on an icon. Where do they dig these people up?) | Jan 31 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Star Wars: X-Wing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gjgmw ] | Jan 31 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's so complicated! TAP TAP TAP! I don't know how to use this thing. TAP TAP TAP! | Jan 31 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | ALL IS LOST! ALL IS LOST!!!!! | Jan 31 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | And now a public service message for crApple customers. | Jan 31 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Picard_ea1ccc_1947694.jpg | Jan 31 23:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 23:37 |
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| gde33 | tnwpwhd (Thats not what picard would have done) | Jan 31 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Picard would hit that, with an inverse tachyon beam. | Jan 31 23:39 |
| gde33 | I was just pondering how every notable nerd must have his inner picard one can address | Jan 31 23:40 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 31 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3VGIWV8L8YF53 | Feb 01 01:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Study finds that cough syrup is apparently useless for doing anything other than making sizzurp. [ http://ur1.ca/gjh32 ] | Feb 01 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when I had to go to the laundromat. | Feb 01 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's washer broke down and she had to go there recently. She complained about most of the machines being broken and/or filthy and getting gouged to do her laundry. | Feb 01 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | I told her "Now you know why I was wearing the same clothes 4-5 times when I worked at Walmart. I got sick of putting $40 in their nasty ass machines every month!" | Feb 01 01:20 |
| gde33 | MinceR: but volentary taxes, imagine it, it would look something like kickstarter | Feb 01 01:30 |
| gde33 | every committee for it self | Feb 01 01:30 |
| gde33 | foreiners may pay taxes to :) | Feb 01 01:33 |
| gde33 | maybe all we need is some sort of wrapper for existing libraries :D | Feb 01 01:39 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2OUM898OYXKW6 | Feb 01 02:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Microsoft sues a company for exercising their rights under the first sale doctrine. [ http://ur1.ca/gjhge ] | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20140128/NEWS01/140128007/Microsoft-sues-Urbandale-company-over-alleged-counterfeit-software | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has sued a computer store that was selling refurbished laptops that came with a Windows Vista license, which had been re-imaged with the same version of Windows Vista that they came with. | Feb 01 02:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.press-citizen.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gjhgg ] | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft claims that exercising your rights under the First Sale Doctrine is "counterfeiting software". | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, everyone that is selling their old computer and keeps Windows on it for the next owner is doing the same thing that this company did. Microsoft says you have no right to do that, which flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent. (It's the same as selling a used book or a used CD, which is totally legal.) | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not suggesting that it's good to give someone else a copy of Windows. | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's better to give them software that respects their freedom, such as GNU/Linux. Nobody has ever been sued for "counterfeiting" GNU/Linux, because software counterfeiting is impossible, and everyone has the guaranteed right to share it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. | Feb 01 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that there isn't much (proprietary) software that the NSA hasn't bugged these days. | Feb 01 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Even Angry Birds is reporting to them about the user's activity! | Feb 01 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it when birds take a leak. It always happens right after you get out of the car wash... | Feb 01 02:47 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC: good link | Feb 01 03:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I will do an article about it tomorrow | Feb 01 03:02 |
| schestowitz__ | [21:33] <DaemonFC> In the hospital, two 1 cent aspirins are $50 and a $1 bag of sterile saline IV solution is $800. | Feb 01 03:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow, welcome to USA | Feb 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | Patricia says: | Feb 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft produces rubbish products and is a has-been dying company. This is one of their last gasps of frustration. If MS wins, I hope that more people switch to a Mac for their new computer. | Feb 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | Apple software has most of the same problems regarding lack of user freedoms. | Feb 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | They haven't sued anyone for reselling their Mac that I am aware of, but they wouldn't need to. Software is kind of a hook for them to sell their expensive computers in the first place. | Feb 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | Patricia says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Apple gives away its OS for free these days - you need to keep up. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [21:33] <abeNd-org> sick people = profit! | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | They give it away gratis at the moment, but it does not give its users freedom. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 8.1 was also gratis, but did not give users freedom. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, every new version of either OS takes more freedom away from the user. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Not here, not yet, although the Tories try to make it so | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | So, why would I care about Microsoft threatening a company for distributing its software? | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Well, first, it threatens everyone who has purchased a license to use anything that is bound by copyright. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, it would not mean fewer copies of Windows in existence. Every user and company would simply stop reselling existing licenses, and pay Microsoft even more money for new licenses, which is worse than simply reselling an existing license, which would give them even more money to attack users and their freedom with more malicious products. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better if every copy of Windows was destroyed, but giving them more money for new licenses just makes two problems where there was only one problem before. It's counterproductive. | Feb 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | err, because it would | Feb 01 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Keep an eye on this case. It threatens the entire first sale doctrine. | Feb 01 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | Almost every time you give this Supreme Court another chance to fuck people over, it takes it. | Feb 01 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: Yeah. I had good insurance before I turned 18. | Feb 01 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, there was no PPACA, so you just lost your parents health insurance when you turned 18. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's 26 now. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, with a few minutes left on the clock, I hurried up and got a whole bunch of things taken care of. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Within a year, I had sinus surgery, a tonsillectomy, all my wisdom teeth removed, etc. | Feb 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | I actually got all my wisdom teeth removed and then lost my dental AND heath insurance the very next day. | Feb 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | *health | Feb 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | And I was lucky I could get in at the last minute, because 12 years ago, it cost over $2,500 to get your wisdom teeth removed. | Feb 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | They weren't causing me a problem, yet, but I hurried up and got it done because there was no telling when it would be a problem and where I was going to find $2,500 at. | Feb 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | The pain medication they gave me didn't work, and the dentist would not speak to me, or call in a new prescription, because I was no longer insured. | Feb 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I basically spent the next week in terrible pain because I had no insurance and was recovering from surgery. | Feb 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: Don't get sick here. | Feb 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | Get sick just about anywhere else in the developed world, but don't get sick here. | Feb 01 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx30JJNLCN4CUJM | Feb 01 03:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Christie asks for public's patience while he comes uo with new story [ http://ur1.ca/gjhm8 ] | Feb 01 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | "It wasn't me! It was the three chinned man! Oh ****!" | Feb 01 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | The British have a right-wing government that is dealing with a legacy universal healthcare program that dates back to better days when people cared about each other, that they have to make fail, so they can have an excuse to privatize it. | Feb 01 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sort of like Republicans in the US and free public education. | Feb 01 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | First you have to make it fail. | Feb 01 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then you scream "It's failing!". | Feb 01 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then you "fix it" (so that rich criminals can gorge themselves on the privatized inferior version). | Feb 01 04:13 |
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| ldk | https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/429287813066944512 | Feb 01 07:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @matthew_d_green: "Anonymity is the enemy of privacy" says RSA head, with an (apparently) straight face. This stuff is gold. http://t.co/sY2yLvOjTp | Feb 01 07:07 |
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| Sosumi | tell Patricia that crapple is a hardware manufacturer | Feb 01 10:13 |
| Sosumi | and their main revenue, if actually, all revenue comes from hardware | Feb 01 10:14 |
| Sosumi | that is why you have the computers they sell totally locked down | Feb 01 10:14 |
| Sosumi | simply because crapple isn't going to get your money if you keep updating you dear mac pro for 6 years | Feb 01 10:15 |
| Sosumi | specially when it comes to realms of graphics cards | Feb 01 10:16 |
| Sosumi | and if m$ is so crappy, why do you get much better drivers on windows (and linux) than on osx | Feb 01 10:16 |
| Sosumi | if m$ is so bad, why does xcode is a total letdown compared to VS? | Feb 01 10:17 |
| Sosumi | is crapple actually better? or just as bad as m$ | Feb 01 10:18 |
| Sosumi | my money is on the later | Feb 01 10:18 |
| Sosumi | surely the aluminum macbooks are kewl and everything | Feb 01 10:19 |
| Sosumi | but so are dell precisions and hp elitebooks | Feb 01 10:20 |
| Sosumi | and eclipse is free and better than both | Feb 01 10:22 |
| Sosumi | xcode and vs | Feb 01 10:23 |
| Sosumi | but, it has been known since forever that m$ doesn't want you to resell your already activated winblows license with a laptop | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | even through | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | the seller could claim | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | that he's just reselling the laptop hardware wise | Feb 01 10:24 |
| Sosumi | and as for the included windows is just like "an ownership transfer" | Feb 01 10:25 |
| Sosumi | and that he's not charging for that | Feb 01 10:26 |
| Sosumi | and I hope that in each receipt he passed | Feb 01 10:27 |
| Sosumi | he never mentioned laptop with winblows vista | Feb 01 10:27 |
| Sosumi | because in that way he'll be screwed | Feb 01 10:28 |
| Sosumi | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfV5Z63CAAAWRlB.png:large | Feb 01 11:59 |
| Sosumi | no comment | Feb 01 11:59 |
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| iophk | Bruce's site has been down for at least a few days. | Feb 01 12:14 |
| iophk | http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html | Feb 01 12:14 |
| iophk | Also, he seems to have stopped with Lighttpd and moved to nginx. | Feb 01 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html ) | Feb 01 12:14 |
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| cubezzz | I'd never use an operating system without source code unless there was absolutely no other choice | Feb 01 12:51 |
| cubezzz | historically, Xenix was a giant step backwards from Unix v7 | Feb 01 12:52 |
| iophk | cubezzz: even this one? | Feb 01 12:52 |
| iophk | http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_every_mobile_phone | Feb 01 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.osnews.com | The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone [ http://ur1.ca/g1225 ] | Feb 01 12:52 |
| cubezzz | well, I never use mobile phones :) | Feb 01 12:52 |
| iophk | :) | Feb 01 12:52 |
| cubezzz | SunOS was similar, Sun took 4.3BSD and made it into a closed source OS | Feb 01 12:54 |
| cubezzz | two examples of going from open source to proprietary source | Feb 01 12:55 |
| cubezzz | after 1992 everything changed again, this time going in the opposite direction | Feb 01 12:55 |
| cubezzz | I hacked up a preliminary list of alternative operating systems: | Feb 01 13:02 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/alternative-os.txt | Feb 01 13:03 |
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| iophk | propaganda : http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/31/7-ways-microsoft-excel-could-change-the-world | Feb 01 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Seven ways Microsoft Excel could change the world | News | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjk9m ] | Feb 01 13:41 |
| iophk | and here : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/01/why-ditching-facebook-feels-like-opting-out-of-modern-life | Feb 01 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Why ditching Facebook feels like opting out of modern life | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjka6 ] | Feb 01 13:44 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/one-million-people-call-on-fcc-to-save-net-neutrality/ | Feb 01 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | One million people call on FCC to “save net neutrality” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkae ] | Feb 01 13:46 |
| Sosumi | since apple is so great | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | to the point they can't even get their own stuff working properly | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/jan14/012414.html | Feb 01 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.xlr8yourmac.com | 1/24/2014 Late 2013 Mac Pro randcom crashes/restarts and sleep problems - xlr8yourmac.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjkax ] | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1702539 | Feb 01 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.macrumors.com | Mac Pro 2013 6,1 Thunderbolt / Sleep /Wake Reboot Problem - Appreciate Help - MacRumors Forums [ http://ur1.ca/gjkay ] | Feb 01 13:49 |
| Sosumi | also, maya viewport gets worst results on osx than it gets on windows and on linux | Feb 01 13:50 |
| Sosumi | and that is with the amd cards used on the trashcan pro | Feb 01 13:50 |
| Sosumi | so Patricia is kind of being a crapple patrician | Feb 01 13:51 |
| Sosumi | and we all know moronic that kind of ppl can be | Feb 01 13:52 |
| cubezzz | haha, excel | Feb 01 13:56 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Feb 01 13:56 |
| cubezzz | DEC was more open source than Apple ever was | Feb 01 14:03 |
| cubezzz | even if only partially | Feb 01 14:03 |
| cubezzz | DEC let one have RT11 source code, plus tons of source code for some lanugages | Feb 01 14:04 |
| cubezzz | even IBM was better than Apple :) | Feb 01 14:04 |
| cubezzz | DEC was also better than Commodore, Atari and Radio Shack | Feb 01 14:05 |
| cubezzz | what good open source project did Commodore make? | Feb 01 14:06 |
| cubezzz | that's right... nothing :) | Feb 01 14:06 |
| cubezzz | A lot of the stuff that appeared on Fish disks was from the PDP-11 world | Feb 01 14:07 |
| cubezzz | at least DEC has DECUS, which goes all the way back to 1961 | Feb 01 14:09 |
| cubezzz | http://www.decuslib.com | Feb 01 14:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.decuslib.com | NO TITLE | Feb 01 14:10 |
| cubezzz | ok, so DEC is dead but there are still DECUS archives around | Feb 01 14:10 |
| cubezzz | what did Apple have in the past? | Feb 01 14:14 |
| cubezzz | they had Xenix on Lisa, and a bunch of closed source OSes | Feb 01 14:14 |
| cubezzz | I guess nothing has changed there | Feb 01 14:15 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ | Feb 01 14:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkgq ] | Feb 01 14:16 |
| Sosumi | crapple has no good open source project that I can name | Feb 01 14:17 |
| iophk | They've taken over CUPS | Feb 01 14:17 |
| Sosumi | and the stuff on macosforge/macports are kind of dead | Feb 01 14:18 |
| Sosumi | xquartz? lol, their new compiler? llvm/clang | Feb 01 14:19 |
| Sosumi | why would anyone use that anyways | Feb 01 14:19 |
| Sosumi | opendarwin? | Feb 01 14:20 |
| Sosumi | get freebsd instead | Feb 01 14:20 |
| Sosumi | so, when apple says in their propaganda that they are great open source contributors | Feb 01 14:20 |
| Sosumi | well that is a lie | Feb 01 14:20 |
| cubezzz | I heard that opendarwin was shut down quite a while ago | Feb 01 14:21 |
| cubezzz | 2006 I think? | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | but they still release darwin package | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | *the | Feb 01 14:21 |
| Sosumi | another open source project from crapple | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | web objects? | Feb 01 14:22 |
| cubezzz | so sure BSD is a good choice, openbsd, netbsd or freebsd | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | deprecated and then "open sourced" | Feb 01 14:22 |
| cubezzz | I can write for BSD or Linux and it's easy enough to go from one to the other, usually | Feb 01 14:22 |
| Sosumi | shake, that composing suite that apple got when they bought nothing is real | Feb 01 14:23 |
| Sosumi | also deprecated, but never open sourced | Feb 01 14:23 |
| Sosumi | another open source project from them | Feb 01 14:25 |
| Sosumi | the apple lossless audio codec | Feb 01 14:25 |
| Sosumi | I wander why anyone would use that over flac | Feb 01 14:25 |
| Sosumi | or wav | Feb 01 14:25 |
| Sosumi | unless ofc you have an ipod or a hypephone | Feb 01 14:26 |
| cubezzz | really much of the hardware nowadays isn't too great | Feb 01 14:28 |
| iophk | wav can't handle metadata if I understand correctly. flac is the way to go. | Feb 01 14:28 |
| cubezzz | the basic program of closed source bios has not been addressed except: | Feb 01 14:28 |
| cubezzz | http://www.coreboot.org/Chromebooks | Feb 01 14:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.coreboot.org | Chromebooks - coreboot | Feb 01 14:28 |
| cubezzz | s/program/problem/ | Feb 01 14:29 |
| Sosumi | intel is charging more and more for their parts | Feb 01 14:29 |
| cubezzz | you can get a chromebook pretty cheap too | Feb 01 14:29 |
| Sosumi | even through they cost pocket change to produce | Feb 01 14:29 |
| Sosumi | chromebooks are kind of toy computers | Feb 01 14:30 |
| Sosumi | only that top of the line model google has is decent enough | Feb 01 14:30 |
| cubezzz | I'm all ears to hear about good alternatives :) | Feb 01 14:30 |
| Sosumi | plus I really have no need for a laptop | Feb 01 14:31 |
| Sosumi | so I kind of not keep on par with what is around | Feb 01 14:31 |
| Sosumi | but as for alternatives | Feb 01 14:32 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/NiCSTSF.jpg | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | new intelistations please | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | with ppc | Feb 01 14:32 |
| Sosumi | or sparcstations | Feb 01 14:33 |
| Sosumi | intel needs big competition on the high end segments | Feb 01 14:33 |
| Sosumi | otherwise they just charge an arm and a leg for their workstation parts | Feb 01 14:34 |
| iophk | Larry is helping his friend Bill by choking sparc. | Feb 01 14:34 |
| iophk | He could be making money on it otherwise. | Feb 01 14:34 |
| Sosumi | yep he could | Feb 01 14:42 |
| Sosumi | the big hope now is IBM | Feb 01 14:42 |
| Sosumi | since they sold the x86 business to lenovo | Feb 01 14:43 |
| Sosumi | now all they have left is power | Feb 01 14:43 |
| Sosumi | I really hope they don't confine it to just servers | Feb 01 14:43 |
| MinceR | i think they sold it because they don't want to do it | Feb 01 14:44 |
| Sosumi | they don't want to do it with x86 | Feb 01 14:45 |
| Sosumi | that was why they sold their business to lenovo | Feb 01 14:46 |
| Sosumi | and now since what they have left is ppc, they could leverage that architecture also outside servers | Feb 01 14:46 |
| Sosumi | and that means bringing back the intelistation | Feb 01 14:46 |
| Sosumi | which in the past, used the same power variant used by apple on the powermac | Feb 01 14:47 |
| iophk | it would be great if it meant some Power workstations or notebooks. | Feb 01 14:47 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Feb 01 14:50 |
| Sosumi | lets see how it'll be in a year from now | Feb 01 14:51 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/2014-the-year-america-ruined-the-internet-2014-2 | Feb 01 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | 2014: The Year America Broke The Internet - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjl1w ] | Feb 01 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: | Feb 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Hello, Bradley. | Feb 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Here I would like to present the proof of thfsplus.ko labeled as "GPL" while being sold along with products (NAS storages in this case): | Feb 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=89873 -> http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=396303#p396303 | Feb 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz__ | It seems to me that Tuxera will at least have to open the code for the GPL product they sold. If it turns | Feb 01 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forum.qnap.com | QNAP NAS Community Forum • View topic - HFS+ module [ http://ur1.ca/gjl8b ] | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | out to be the case that they did with HFS+ what Samsung did with vfat.ko and exFAT, then it's up to Finnish | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | authorities to deal with Tuxera's actions. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forum.qnap.com | QNAP NAS Community Forum • Login [ http://ur1.ca/gjl8c ] | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Please feel free to forward the source code to me as an attachment in case Tuxera sends it to you via reply. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you. | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | -rxrz | Feb 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:29 |
| iophk | interesting | Feb 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz__ | release date drupal 8 is hard to figure out | Feb 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | nobody gives even an estimate | Feb 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | nut being slow to release is good for companie | Feb 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | https://drupal.org/node/2133007 | Feb 01 16:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | drupal.org | when will drupal 8 release? | Drupal.org | Feb 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: maybe some Finns should liaise with rzrz | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she could use some help, with language, access etc. | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she's anon | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | This is very effective | Feb 01 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she's effectively throwing patents on FSes like that down the drain | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and makes support for them possible without the red tapes, like patent payments of buying blobs | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | This undermines Apple and Microsoft actions against Android, Tizen, etc. | Feb 01 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Drupal 8 | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | ou can check the release cycle for Drupal 8 here: | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://drupal.org/core/release-cycle | Feb 01 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | drupal.org | Drupal core release cycle | Drupal.org | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Unfortunately there is no official release date yet. | Feb 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 16:35 |
| iophk | "The board requires you to be registered and logged in to view this forum." | Feb 01 16:39 |
| iophk | qnap | Feb 01 16:40 |
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| iophk | Txera are also bringing in sw patents through the back door by acting as if they are valid and paying/receiving money for them. That hurts the interests of the EU badly. | Feb 01 17:30 |
| iophk | That might not be directly affecting the HFS issue, but might be important anyway. | Feb 01 17:30 |
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| Sosumi | also new M$ CEO may be Satya Nadella | Feb 01 17:54 |
| Sosumi | a dude that has been already 20 years with M$ | Feb 01 17:54 |
| MinceR | androidauthority says it might be sundar pichai | Feb 01 17:55 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that would work | Feb 01 17:55 |
| Sosumi | and that probably belongs to the Balmer echo chamber | Feb 01 17:55 |
| Sosumi | all I know is that M$ | Feb 01 17:55 |
| Sosumi | needs a john sculley | Feb 01 17:56 |
| MinceR | m$ has performed an illegal operation and needs to be shut down | Feb 01 17:56 |
| Sosumi | and who else than a john sculley to wreck it to the ground? | Feb 01 17:57 |
| Sosumi | kind of like tim crook is already doing with crapple | Feb 01 17:57 |
| Sosumi | ios marketshare going down | Feb 01 17:57 |
| MinceR | tim crook should hurry up | Feb 01 17:58 |
| MinceR | crApple is still doing too much damage | Feb 01 17:58 |
| Sosumi | no exact direction on their products, outside of the ever increasing locked garden | Feb 01 17:58 |
| MinceR | which the cultists love | Feb 01 17:58 |
| MinceR | as always | Feb 01 17:58 |
| Sosumi | with the mac pro being the latest victim | Feb 01 17:58 |
| Sosumi | helvetica neue (lol= | Feb 01 17:58 |
| Sosumi | and just look at the iphone, it doesn't even feature a gorilla glass 3 screen cover | Feb 01 17:59 |
| Sosumi | even through it is the most expensive phone around | Feb 01 18:00 |
| MinceR | it also doesn't feature an open platform | Feb 01 18:01 |
| MinceR | or real multitasking | Feb 01 18:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea about the multitasking | Feb 01 18:01 |
| MinceR | the set of background tasks is predefined and requires special APIs | Feb 01 18:02 |
| MinceR | so less "multitasking" than in DOS | Feb 01 18:02 |
| MinceR | where you'd have to hook interrupts but could at least do what you wanted | Feb 01 18:02 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 01 18:03 |
| MinceR | oh, also no common filesystem | Feb 01 18:04 |
| Sosumi | yep | Feb 01 18:04 |
| Sosumi | they could just have built some sort of finder into it | Feb 01 18:05 |
| Sosumi | but no | Feb 01 18:05 |
| MinceR | there was some bullshit said about needing a file manager being bad or something | Feb 01 18:05 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585869 | Feb 01 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whitewashing the #fed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfV5Z63CAAAWRlB.png:large number cooking is not heroism, and economic gaps increase | Feb 01 18:06 |
| schestowitz__ | "Strangely, most of the sites I read would use the title "The Douche"..." | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585865 | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The site of Bruce Perens site has been down for at least a few days." -iophk http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html missing #technocrat | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html ) | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "Site is up. It looks like a fresh Apache install or so." | Feb 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz__ | nginx | Feb 01 18:07 |
| iophk | content down, though technically the site is up | Feb 01 18:07 |
| Sosumi | no idea, but having an user exposed file system would mean that the user wouldn't need to reset the phone in case some app broke and you could no longer access it | Feb 01 18:07 |
| Sosumi | also, from what I heard | Feb 01 18:08 |
| iophk | It has been like that for a while. | Feb 01 18:08 |
| Sosumi | deleting an app | Feb 01 18:08 |
| Sosumi | doesn't remove everything pertaining to the said app | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: not many people know about the siite | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | let alone read it | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585685 | Feb 01 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ #ubuntu #linux #steamos | Feb 01 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkgq ] | Feb 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz__ | "I kind of hate unetbootin. Never got it to work properly. That's probably just my fault though. SUSE Studio Imagewriter is the best, IMO. 'course, good old dd is nice too." | Feb 01 18:08 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-8-1-marketshare-set-to-overtake-windows-vista-desktop-marketshare/ | Feb 01 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.digitaltrends.com | Windows 8.1 Marketshare Right Behind Windows Vista | Digital Trends [ http://ur1.ca/gjlwq ] | Feb 01 18:20 |
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| Sosumi | lol | Feb 01 18:21 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/424172555961122816 | Feb 01 18:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thurrott: @quiggles It may not be selling as well as Vista. | Feb 01 18:22 |
| Sosumi | m$ went to the "trouble" (lol) of creating metro | Feb 01 18:26 |
| Sosumi | but things that could actually increase productivity | Feb 01 18:27 |
| Sosumi | like virtual desktops and "exposé" type features are non existent | Feb 01 18:27 |
| MinceR | even crApple's virtual desktop is crippled | Feb 01 18:32 |
| Sosumi | but at least they have one | Feb 01 18:58 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/philip-k-dick-predictions-2014-1 | Feb 01 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Philip K. Dick Predictions - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjm7a ] | Feb 01 19:12 |
| iophk | http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1027178.shtml | Feb 01 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.finfacts.ie | Foreign government requests Bermuda to investigate Microsoft's Irish-linked subsidiaries [ http://ur1.ca/gjm9y ] | Feb 01 19:22 |
| iophk | Thus the noise about the CEO choices. It buries the real news. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| iophk | http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3092/20140201/yahoo-plans-return-to-search-engine-roots-with-a-vengeance.htm | Feb 01 19:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techtimes.com | Yahoo plans return to search engine roots with a vengeance : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times [ http://ur1.ca/gjmcl ] | Feb 01 19:32 |
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| iophk | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140131/09523326059/david-cameron-says-snoopers-charter-is-necessary-because-fictional-crime-dramas-he-watches-prove-it.shtml | Feb 01 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | David Cameron Says Snooper's Charter Is Necessary Because Fictional Crime Dramas He Watches Prove It | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gjmhk ] | Feb 01 19:56 |
| iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25969918 | Feb 01 20:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - David Cameron wants fresh push on communications data [ http://ur1.ca/gjmij ] | Feb 01 20:01 |
| iophk | http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/Default/Latest-News/Article/Tax-probe-into-Bermuda-based-trio-of-Microsoft-linked-entities/-3/1297/74489 | Feb 01 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bermudasun.bm | Bermuda Sun: Tax probe into Bermuda based trio of Microsoft linked entities [ http://ur1.ca/gjmm1 ] | Feb 01 20:25 |
| iophk | What about that bribery scandal from last year? That too seems to have been brushed under the rug. | Feb 01 20:25 |
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| DaemonFC | http://action.usaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=605 | Feb 01 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | action.usaction.org | Sign our petition: America deserves a raise [ http://ur1.ca/gjnft ] | Feb 01 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, their "Law of Similars" is ridiculous pseudo-scientific garbage. It makes a ridiculous claim that water has a "memory" of everything it has been exposed to, that the effect on the human body of a substance is greater the more diluted it is, and that the substance in question will cure diseases that cause similar symptoms of the substance that is claimed to be the active ingredient in the homeopathic solution. (The hair of the dog | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | that bit you?)/ | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, there's no way to achieve the dilutions that they claim. One duck liver and heart would be more than enough to make all of the "Oscillococcinum" sold in the world (supposedly a flu remedy), and it would require more than 100 times more water than exists on the planet Earth to dilute it to the claimed dilution. | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Third, and purely ironic, the biggest company behind "homeopathic remedies" is a French company called Boiron, which rhymes with "Moron". | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Even though homeopathy is pseudo-scientific crap, it has a large base of followers, and you can find their little bottles of water and placebo pills at your local Walgreens. It's a multi-billion dollar per year business. | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | And on that note, I'm going to take a leak. Please enjoy drinking an 8C dilution of my urine. I hope it's refreshing. | Feb 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | If it cures anything, let me know. | Feb 01 22:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | "i got a homeopathic pill for my gullibility" | Feb 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it's a waste of money. | Feb 01 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse because you're not just wasting money, you're using placebo as an alternative to seeking medical attention. | Feb 01 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Governments seem to regard homeopathy as benign. | Feb 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Heh. Oral B has decreased the prices of their electric toothbrushes, but slipped in a 25% price increase on the replacement heads. | Feb 01 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | time to balance the checkbook | Feb 01 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 01 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | pay off the credit card again and see how much I have left until payday | Feb 01 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Feb 01 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I used 356 GB of data last month | Feb 01 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | Well, my cable internet bill is up to $75. | Feb 01 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | If they're going to charge me for it, I might as well get my money's worth. | Feb 01 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | The city is now charging $5 for every bag of trash past two bags. | Feb 01 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I pointed out to my mom that since they didn't specify what a "bag" meant, that she should get one of those 55 gallon trash cans and put that in her kitchen. | Feb 01 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | So she did. | Feb 01 23:40 |
| MinceR | we were forced into a trash management contract and we're forced to pay even if we don't live at that house and don't produce trash there | Feb 01 23:47 |
| MinceR | because this is hungary | Feb 01 23:47 |
| MinceR | asshole of europe | Feb 01 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Romney said he was frugal and in touch with American voters because he compacted his trash to save $5 a month and only uses gratis apps on his $800 iBad. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Perhaps he also has a toothpaste squeezer in his bathroom. The world might never know. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bet he got a great deal on his latest 11,000 square foot house, his several luxury cars, the car elevator... Maybe he even shops at Mens Wearhouse for his suits. You know that if you buy an $800 suite there, that sometimes they give you an extra one for only $100? | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bet he has plenty of tips for how people earning $8 an hour and no health insurance can live the high life. They just have to work even harder and eventually they'll "get what they deserve". | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, perhaps they will be working for $8.05 an hour this time next year if they behave. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | errr, suit | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should walk in there like Sean Connery in Highlander. | Feb 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | "The gentleman would like a suit of clothes!" | Feb 01 23:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | I think that it's ridiculous to spend a lot of money on clothes. | Feb 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I usually wear t-shirts that I got in packs of four for about $10 and some jeans from kmart. | Feb 01 23:57 |
| MinceR | especially such impractical ones (suits) | Feb 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in compliance with the laws that state that public nudity is a crime. | Feb 01 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why I should spend more than I have to. | Feb 01 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 01 23:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 23:58 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 04:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/mageia-4-and-more/ #mageia #pclinuxos #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jan 26 04:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi58z ] | Jan 26 04:36 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/note-3-users-samsung-disabled-unofficial-accessories-via-software-update/ | Jan 26 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ei ] | Jan 26 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS | Jan 26 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Still Very Much Alive http://t.co/8Tf9WW225v | Jan 26 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5ej | Jan 26 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Tux Machines | Jan 26 05:01 |
| Sosumi | another reason why I favor either vanilla android or open source android | Jan 26 05:07 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558213 | Jan 26 05:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/financial-apartheid/ | Jan 26 05:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi5il ] | Jan 26 05:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sosumi: yeah | Jan 26 05:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Samsung is evik | Jan 26 05:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Like Sony, just not as bad | Jan 26 05:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sony is deep in the MAFIAA and DRM business | Jan 26 05:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427385484684578816 | Jan 26 05:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update http://t.co/crqRCJAybD #samsung #ballnux | Jan 26 05:23 |
| Sosumi | sony actually went to the point of not even allowing audio cds on the ps4 | Jan 26 05:23 |
| Sosumi | in order to shove their music anywhere service | Jan 26 05:24 |
| Sosumi | also, no flac support | Jan 26 05:24 |
| iophk | ps3 was good until they pulled the ability to run Linux. | Jan 26 05:25 |
| iophk | ps4 ... meh | Jan 26 05:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558227 | Jan 26 05:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Geneva https://despora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_be50b013eab46aeede0d.jpg | Jan 26 05:25 |
| Sosumi | ps3 was ok | Jan 26 05:26 |
| iophk | It was heading a very good direction until they decided to reverse policy and block dual use. | Jan 26 05:27 |
| iophk | It would be interesting to find out the motivation for that move. | Jan 26 05:27 |
| Sosumi | but I think that the lack of gpu acceleration out of the box was kind dumb | Jan 26 05:27 |
| Sosumi | although folks were finding workarounds | Jan 26 05:27 |
| Sosumi | to a lesser extent, no ecc memory kind killed it for clustering | Jan 26 05:27 |
| Sosumi | although you could always use some error correcting algo | Jan 26 05:28 |
| Sosumi | but it was a cheap way to get access to the cell | Jan 26 05:29 |
| Sosumi | without overpaying for a cell computing board or rack | Jan 26 05:29 |
| Sosumi | and I'm all in for choice and options | Jan 26 05:29 |
| Sosumi | so shame on them | Jan 26 05:29 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554984 | Jan 26 05:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: keyboard pants... | Jan 26 05:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Spacebar! Ooooh yeah! Spacebar me now!" | Jan 26 05:31 |
| Sosumi | plus, were there any games on the ps3 that awarded a purchase of the system? | Jan 26 05:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557642 | Jan 26 05:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama's awkward moment http://cheezburger.com/7960577280 | Jan 26 05:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> cheezburger.com | That Awkward Moment When... - Cheezburger | Jan 26 05:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It's amazing how politicians can tell lies no matter how outrageous are." | Jan 26 05:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557640 | Jan 26 05:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Murdoch's Fox 'news' makes you very, VERY stupid http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/ancient-tablet-reveals-new-details-about-noah-ark-prototype/ | Jan 26 05:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.foxnews.com | Ancient tablet reveals new details about Noah's Ark prototype | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/gi1st ] | Jan 26 05:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The world is awash in a rising tide of stupid shit nowadays." | Jan 26 05:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The "like" is for the comment." | Jan 26 05:32 |
| Sosumi | because, outside of wipeout, there were any actually good games on the thing | Jan 26 05:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554983 | Jan 26 05:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bass https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_3b2264ee5d7a32814f1c.jpg | Jan 26 05:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It seems that assholes are everywhere, not only in banana republics like mine." | Jan 26 05:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3554975 | Jan 26 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183 #utah #poverty | Jan 26 05:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Interesting." | Jan 26 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.nationofchange.org | Utah is Ending Homelessness by Giving People Homes | NationofChange [ http://ur1.ca/gi5m5 ] | Jan 26 05:35 |
| Sosumi | same could be said about the xbox 2, outside of some republished games like rez hd (dreamcast), geometry wars and the ninja gaiden series (the ones done by itagaki)) | Jan 26 05:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556085 | Jan 26 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: On children's website, #NSA puts a furry, smiley face on its mission http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/on-children-s-website-nsa-puts-a-furry-smiley-face-on-its-mission-475262 (anti) "CryptoKids" | Jan 26 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ndtv.com | On children's website, NSA puts a furry, smiley face on its mission | NDTV.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi5m7 ] | Jan 26 05:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ""In the world of diplomacy, knowing what your enemy is planning helps you to prepare". So are they finally admitting that see the rest of the world as an enemy?" | Jan 26 05:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3549690 | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 05:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mac Asay deletes #chromebooks from history http://readwrite.com/2014/01/23/why-the-linux-desktop-never-mattered | Jan 26 05:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> readwrite.com | Why The Linux Desktop Doesn't Matter Anymore – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/ghl1m ] | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think he has something of a point, in that most users will just pick the option Dell/HP tell them to and doesn't involve any work to get it running. They look at linux and see something complicated they can't trust, windows is the soma of computing. | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That said, he's being a dick. He tied the whole thing to a sensationalist headline and completely ignored the fact that | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The linux desktop isn't irrelevant to the millions of people who use it | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It's growing | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 05:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Oh, and I feel so sorry for his friend Valerie if he advised her to switch to apple. I hope she didn't get scared away from trying new stuff just because of that." | Jan 26 05:37 |
| Sosumi | outside of those "exclusives" I fail to actually name games that are exclusive to those systems and that manage to be better of what we find on the pc | Jan 26 05:37 |
| Sosumi | and it isn't looking better on this gen | Jan 26 05:37 |
| Sosumi | with the introduction of touch games and motion junk with cameras | Jan 26 05:38 |
| Sosumi | and voice recognition | Jan 26 05:38 |
| Sosumi | which transmit all your data to the game publisher | Jan 26 05:38 |
| Sosumi | although the portable consoles kind of look nice | Jan 26 05:39 |
| Sosumi | you could just get an original psp | Jan 26 05:39 |
| Sosumi | and play games for cheap | Jan 26 05:39 |
| Sosumi | if you're into turn based strategy games and some nice platformers | Jan 26 05:40 |
| Sosumi | the disgaea series and the priny series are nice and can be bought dirt cheap on the second hand market | Jan 26 05:41 |
| Sosumi | also, don't we have Davos conference around now | Jan 26 05:42 |
| Sosumi | in which the failing oligarchs will be plotting to keep themselves afloat | Jan 26 05:43 |
| Sosumi | aka the survival of the unfit | Jan 26 05:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial | Jan 26 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | accessories via software update | Jan 26 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oA3f4lE1rY | Jan 26 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5ng | Jan 26 05:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Tux Machines | Jan 26 05:44 |
| iophk | http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-10-2013-12.html | Jan 26 05:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report [ http://ur1.ca/gi5o0 ] | Jan 26 05:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @voidquest44 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via...' | Jan 26 05:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3557087 | Jan 26 05:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Programmierer #Feindschaft bis in den Tod !?! | Jan 26 05:54 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: anything specific? | Jan 26 05:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "iophk: anything specific?bööse :)| | Jan 26 05:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556072 | Jan 26 05:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #gifs #police | Jan 26 05:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kasidy@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9491b4d89e81d0b905e4.gif | Jan 26 05:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "this explains so much in a nutshell, the first reaction of the jackboot is to destroy, to maim and to use violence, without logical reflection or reason" | Jan 26 05:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556073 | Jan 26 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Biggest Hole Dug by Hand # | Jan 26 05:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Fascinating. Simply fascinating." | Jan 26 05:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556087 | Jan 26 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Worse than Jobs: the man who added #apple to #nsa #prism http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/25/tim-cook-talks-nsa-secrecy-and-more-with-abc-news/ | Jan 26 05:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | “there is no back door. The government doesn’t have access to our servers. They would have to cart us out in box for that, and that will not happen.” | Jan 26 05:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ... And you don't believe Tim Cook? | Jan 26 05:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.gottabemobile.com | Tim Cook Talks NSA, Secrecy, and More with ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gi5q3 ] | Jan 26 05:57 |
| Sosumi | Tim Crook | Jan 26 05:57 |
| iophk | Nothing specific that I know of but it would be interesting to know what caused Sony to do an about face on allowing Linux. | Jan 26 05:58 |
| Sosumi | sony had also allowed linux on the ps2 | Jan 26 06:00 |
| Sosumi | to the point of even selling you a kit | Jan 26 06:00 |
| iophk | It was a selling point. | Jan 26 06:00 |
| Sosumi | I think that was directed to the japanese market | Jan 26 06:01 |
| Sosumi | in order to minimize the amount of occupied space at home | Jan 26 06:01 |
| Sosumi | since flats in japan tend to be quite small | Jan 26 06:01 |
| iophk | Only the large ones are small. The rest are much smaller. | Jan 26 06:02 |
| Sosumi | more like a house fit for gnome or hobbit | Jan 26 06:02 |
| Sosumi | and since most ppl in the end always end up having a laptop | Jan 26 06:02 |
| Sosumi | I think that was the idea behind that | Jan 26 06:03 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/26/swedish-public-television-claims-copyright-to-everybodys-sports-photos-if-posted-on-twitter/ | Jan 26 06:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | Swedish Public Television Claims Copyright Publication Rights To Everybody's Sports Photos If Posted On Twitter - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ra ] | Jan 26 06:03 |
| Sosumi | giving folks a small footprint computer | Jan 26 06:03 |
| Sosumi | that doubles as a console and bluray player | Jan 26 06:03 |
| Sosumi | well, triples | Jan 26 06:04 |
| iophk | basically 3 device in one | Jan 26 06:04 |
| Sosumi | and a docking station for the psp | Jan 26 06:04 |
| Sosumi | so 4 devices in one | Jan 26 06:04 |
| Sosumi | I actually bought a ps3 back in early 2009 | Jan 26 06:05 |
| Sosumi | in order to test cell | Jan 26 06:05 |
| Sosumi | ofc that I returned the console after that | Jan 26 06:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: wow | Jan 26 06:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | new low | Jan 26 06:06 |
| Sosumi | and from what I could tell, at least the powerpc core was as fast as the 1.8 g5 | Jan 26 06:06 |
| Sosumi | that crapple included on the base powermac g5 when they introduced the architecture | Jan 26 06:07 |
| Sosumi | and I couldn't get decent results from the SPEs | Jan 26 06:08 |
| Sosumi | but from my opinion, at that time | Jan 26 06:08 |
| Sosumi | you'd be better with one or more gtx 9800 | Jan 26 06:08 |
| Sosumi | new low? where? me buying the console? | Jan 26 06:09 |
| Sosumi | I had 15 days to test it out and then go back to the store and ask to be refunded | Jan 26 06:10 |
| Sosumi | so I got my 399€ back anyways | Jan 26 06:10 |
| Sosumi | and sony got a console to recondition in order to sell it back again as new | Jan 26 06:11 |
| iophk | schestowitz_bed2: there were some web hosting services that tried to take ownership of everything that was uploaded and published on their machines. I can't recall the name(s) right now, but I think they're not in business any more. | Jan 26 06:13 |
| iophk | It was more than a few years ago. | Jan 26 06:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427396958941368320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427398042946637824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427398518551351296 | Jan 26 06:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Your photos are not yours http://t.co/azRljpGamj | Jan 26 06:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Mississippi is now the tenth state to consider legislation to ban cooperation with #NSA http://t.co/NDrIVmPCFu up from six | Jan 26 06:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> offnow.org | Mississippi is now the tenth state to consider legislation to ban cooperation with NSA | Nullify NSA!Nullify NSA! | Jan 26 06:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "THE NEWS" ❂ JUICE RAP NEWS ❂ SEASON 2 EP 1 https://t.co/XM3i0K8fPA real news, with humour | Jan 26 06:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | "THE NEWS" ❂ JUICE RAP NEWS ❂ SEASON 2 EP 1 - YouTube | Jan 26 06:18 |
| iophk | I guess that kind of grab happens often still: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/12/18/facebook-to-instagram-users-all-your-photos-are-belong-to-us/ | Jan 26 06:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.marketwatch.com | Facebook to Instagram users: 'all your photos are belong to us' - The Tell - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/gi5u2 ] | Jan 26 06:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah | Jan 26 06:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about this, BUT... | Jan 26 06:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is about WHERE you upload to | Jan 26 06:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Not WHERE you take the photo | Jan 26 06:21 |
| iophk | good point | Jan 26 06:21 |
| iophk | twitter is just an inde | Jan 26 06:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Also, 5 or 6 years ago I read about some place with a tree where if you took a photo, they claimed to own the copyrights | Jan 26 06:21 |
| iophk | index | Jan 26 06:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | either way, there's a landgrab of copyrights | Jan 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | like all ownershi | Jan 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | see what I write this morning about Gates | Jan 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he now invests directly in oppression of protest | Jan 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and made 15 billion last year | Jan 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | my personal hero /sarcasm | Jan 26 06:23 |
| iophk | Until he starts handing out cash, it's just bluff and marketing no real philanthropy. | Jan 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | an afford to hire people with inside information | Jan 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | i.e. people who rig the markets | Jan 26 06:23 |
| iophk | But then maybe that's the point. | Jan 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | taking away from hopefuls who think that investment is a win to all | Jan 26 06:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | wait for ZDNet et al. to use that to smear Android | Jan 26 06:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VX0Hc9ciUO | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5v1 | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/EWp5hMwAKR | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi5v2 | Jan 26 06:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | Tux Machines | Jan 26 06:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427400720279957505 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427401773658042369 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427402691770593280 | Jan 26 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 http://t.co/IuyvMcerst #tizen is back then... #linux | Jan 26 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung has Tizen devices to show at MWC 2014 | Muktware | Jan 26 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Windows is infecting #Android http://t.co/ilJzTb6pBR don't use Windows. | Jan 26 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | New malware uses Windows to infect Android devices | Muktware | Jan 26 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. http://t.co/WkB6aULPa8 #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jan 26 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.crazyengineers.com | Sable Complete All-in-one Ubuntu Linux Pre-installed PC Released By System76. | CrazyEngineers | Jan 26 06:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427403442794270721 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427403757601951744 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427405505116790784 | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Limitations in #e17 (Enlightenment) make me yearn for KDE4: can't resize windows with SHIFT+mouse, Kipper needed. Good side: RAM miracle! | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Latest Unity7 Update in #Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. http://t.co/pkAB7Px6BM #gnu #linux | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.crazyengineers.com | Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. | CrazyEngineers | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #drones with legs, wheels, etc. http://t.co/gLBCdpJDOo http://t.co/iNoMrX61ar http://t.co/Rn0AWrnllN | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slashgear.com | U.S. Army expects to replace a quarter of soldiers with robots by 2040 - SlashGear | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040 | Muktware | Jan 26 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.voanews.com | U.S. Army Envisions More Robotic Future | Jan 26 06:41 |
| iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever_Peace | Jan 26 06:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Forever Peace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gi5xb ] | Jan 26 06:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427406331281416192 | Jan 26 06:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Now that assassination by flying robots (based on #nsa kill lists) has been made "normal" by the corporate, war-loving media we move further | Jan 26 06:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427406831246651392 | Jan 26 06:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Remember that to the #nsa "undesirables" include journalists, whistleblowers, regulators, politicians, human rights groups, protesters | Jan 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427407188815282176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427407626411180033 | Jan 26 06:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: In #yemen the #obama administration helped the jailing of a journalist for daring to compete with US reporting (monopoly) on #drone strikes | Jan 26 06:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Jailing journalists and such not a novel concept (1990) http://t.co/gi27OepiwY Tocuhe! http://t.co/MCXQFDqJk5 | Jan 26 06:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> articles.chicagotribune.com | Ex-official: Cia Helped Jail Mandela - Chicago Tribune | Jan 26 06:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> abcnews.go.com | President Obama Poses for Selfie at Nelson Mandela's Memorial Service - ABC News | Jan 26 06:48 |
| iophk | http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/strong-majority-in-imco-voted-to-defend-net-neutrality/ | Jan 26 06:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | christianengstrom.wordpress.com | Strong majority in IMCO voted to defend net neutrality | Christian Engström, Pirate MEP [ http://ur1.ca/gi5z7 ] | Jan 26 06:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-h-open-is-closed-and-offline-heres.html | Jan 26 06:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... [ http://ur1.ca/gi5zg ] | Jan 26 06:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I contacted him and others yesterday | Jan 26 06:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but I only found out it had gone online because you told me | Jan 26 06:51 |
| iophk | It has a lot of valuable pages, it is of value to Heise and of negligible maintenance costs (I would expect) and it could probably be converted to static pages if the current software is too much trouble. | Jan 26 06:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, that too | Jan 26 06:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | instead thet try to bloster the ranking of their pro-MS and pro-Apple site | Jan 26 06:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Heise.de | Jan 26 06:54 |
| iophk | That may be the real motivation behind the closure: pound the M$ drum | Jan 26 06:56 |
| iophk | yay Bill! | Jan 26 06:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe they can ask Bill to support the publicatiomn, toe H | Jan 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Bill says he likes sharing | Jan 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The H is about sharing | Jan 26 06:57 |
| iophk | And about promoting IT. Bill says he likes promoting IT. | Jan 26 06:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe bill can cobble together some lamp server | Jan 26 06:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he's an uber-technical guy | Jan 26 06:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google idiot wrote this code eller bill gates | Jan 26 06:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Story of Steve Jobs: An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale? | Wired ... | http://www.wired.com/business/2012/07/ff_stevejobs/all/ | Jan 26 06:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates: 'I wrote Steve Jobs a letter as he was dying. He kept it by ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/9041726/Bill-Gates-I-wrote-Steve-Jobs-a-letter-as-he-was-dying.-He-kept-it-by-his-bed.html | Jan 26 06:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Secret Origin of Windows - Technologizer | http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/ | Jan 26 06:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gates Says Biden, Clinton Would Make Good Presidents | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gates-clinton-biden-good-presidents | Jan 26 06:58 |
| iophk | yeah he invented the Inernet and PCs and sliced bread ... | Jan 26 06:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | wow, Bill really googlebombed it out of existence | Jan 26 06:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | mjust hgave cost a fortune to dump all those puff pieces on high pagerank sites | Jan 26 06:59 |
| iophk | Google ranking is quite ephemeral especially where M$ can dump on it. | Jan 26 06:59 |
| iophk | During the last week or so, one or more of the links posted mentioned Sweden's Carl Bildt leading some kind of commission to investigate NSA surveillance and overreach. That's almost a conflict of interest given where he sits politically. | Jan 26 07:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/GatoPreto19/status/427409005086908416 | Jan 26 07:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @GatoPreto19: @schestowitz Reporting Truth means Jail or Kill-Lists, nowadays.. Or was it that way since ever.. | Jan 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but not in the US. It used to be China, Russia.... | Jan 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yes, I wrote about this Bildt nonsense | Jan 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he';s a friend of Rove | Jan 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And a hawk | Jan 26 07:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google bildt nigger is a nigger | Jan 26 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - “A nigger is a nigger and a Swede is a Swede”. Top leaders of ... | http://professorsblogg.com/2013/12/08/a_niggera_swede/ | Jan 26 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bildt's Party & Mandela's Darkies | Rixstep Industry Watch | http://rixstep.com/1/20131210,00.shtml | Jan 26 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Twitter / wikileaks: “A nigger is a nigger and ... | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/409794738179436544 | Jan 26 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - “A Swede is a Swede & a Jew is a Jew”, says Carl Bildt. Analysing ... | http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-swede-is-swede-jew-is-jew-says-carl.html | Jan 26 07:02 |
| iophk | Yes, he will go through the motions and conclude that there is not enough surveillance. | Jan 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ah, wouldn't that be awesome for his mates? | Jan 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't even think about it like that | Jan 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I just said it was comical and a PR attempt | Jan 26 07:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427409054768824321 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427410763238891520 | Jan 26 07:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Finally it seems like people such as @glynmoody plan the use of #copyrights wisely http://t.co/zTPld4vSVp everyone should do this | Jan 26 07:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... | Jan 26 07:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Is Still Sour For Some GPUs http://t.co/7KHw7Bdj62 #nvidia no good, def. not when it comes to freedom | Jan 26 07:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Is Still Sour For Some GPUs | Jan 26 07:04 |
| iophk | Some of the Swedish blog headlines translate to the goat being appointed head gardner or the the fox being appointed to watch the hen house and similar | Jan 26 07:04 |
| iophk | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/piratpartiet/pressreleases/loejevaeckande-att-carl-bildt-faatt-uppdraget-att-leda-internationell-kommission-foer-naetfrihet-951870 | Jan 26 07:05 |
| iophk | "Carl Bildt is potentially one of the least suitable people to lead efforts to chart the way for a freer and safer Internet for users" | Jan 26 07:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/gi627 ] | Jan 26 07:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What | Jan 26 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | I Aim to Do... http://t.co/vdwN1rDWtu | Jan 26 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi63b | Jan 26 07:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | "The H Open" is Closed and Offline; Here's What I Aim to Do... | Tux Machines | Jan 26 07:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427413741521883136 | Jan 26 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama http://t.co/Eq26fQk0GI #fedora #gnu #linux #redhat | Jan 26 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Jan 26 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427415989211656192 | Jan 26 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Europe's Highest Court Says DRM Circumvention May Be Lawful In Certain Circumstances http://t.co/bek5MUAtFA #drm #copyright | Jan 26 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | Europe's Highest Court Says DRM Circumvention May Be Lawful In Certain Circumstances | Techdirt | Jan 26 07:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427416759411691520 | Jan 26 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The claim that #bildt will "investigate" the #nsa seems like a PR ploy, possibly designed to help "find" that NSA actions are "lawful" | Jan 26 07:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will look at some NSA news now | Jan 26 07:24 |
| iophk | Which politicians or investigating politicians own, own stock in or have friends in companies that make money off of NSA surveillance? | Jan 26 07:25 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427417831467405312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427417376460898305 | Jan 26 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Rich people: people are poor because they're lazy; Poor people, indoctrinated by rich people-owned media: I just need to work harder. | Jan 26 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Back when I was in #davos it was known for skiing and calm. Now it's associated with white-collar crime http://t.co/W9NIFa34xF | Jan 26 07:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> roarmag.org | State of Power 2014: Exposing the Davos Class | ROAR Magazine | Jan 26 07:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427418748291932160 | Jan 26 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #WEF held in #Davos so that the thieves can go check their bank accounts while they're traveling to "talk about poverty" in private jets. | Jan 26 07:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427419220067246081 | Jan 26 07:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Global warning is a problem, said man with a private jet, speaking about "giving" while hoarding additional $15.8bn http://t.co/dLfR4EcpTK | Jan 26 07:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Systematic Looting of Society Disguised as ‘Crisis’ (for Austerity/Privatisation) and Bogus ‘Charity’ as Solution | Techrights | Jan 26 07:34 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | LOL | Jan 26 07:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Rep. Peter King on Saturday blasted a new resolution from the Republican National Committee concerning the National Security Agency," | Jan 26 07:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'King | Jan 26 07:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google peter kind wikileaks | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist ... | http://observer.com/2010/11/peter-king-on-why-wikileaks-should-be-declared-a-terrorist-organization-video/ | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rep. Peter King: Prosecute WikiLeaks, Julian Assange - Jennifer ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45667.html | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Peter King: Declare Wikileaks A Terrorist Organization | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/peter-king-declare-wikileaks-a-terrorist-organization | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - WikiLeaks Is A Terror Outfit: Rep. Peter King : It's All Politics : NPR | http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/11/29/131664547/wikileaks-is-a-terror-outfit-rep-peter-king | Jan 26 07:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google peter king wikileaks | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist ... | http://observer.com/2010/11/peter-king-on-why-wikileaks-should-be-declared-a-terrorist-organization-video/ | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rep. Peter King: Prosecute WikiLeaks, Julian Assange - Jennifer ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45667.html | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - WikiLeaks Is A Terror Outfit: Rep. Peter King : It's All Politics : NPR | http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/11/29/131664547/wikileaks-is-a-terror-outfit-rep-peter-king | Jan 26 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20023941-38.html | Jan 26 07:39 |
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| iophk | "Besides Bildt chaired we find in the group Michael Chertoff. He worked for George W. Bush in the U.S. Homeland Security and was one of the brains behind the Patriot Act. A brilliant name to protect the right to freedom and privacy online - from the NSA's perspective. Another is Sir David Omand. He was previously head of GCHQ. " | Jan 26 07:44 |
| iophk | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://motpol.blogspot.se/2014/01/bildt-utreder-internets-framtid-nsa.html | Jan 26 07:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/gi6a0 ] | Jan 26 07:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427419804786769920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427420165253640193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427420297843965952 | Jan 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa executives and facilitators should be trialled for #espionage http://t.co/m6W6t073RI http://t.co/nSZnxs426w http://t.co/CfHy9D8UxD | Jan 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dw.de | Snowden NSA economic espionage claim broadcast as teaser to first TV interview | News | DW.DE | 26.01.2014 | Jan 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.scmp.com | NSA also serves economic interests: Snowden interview | South China Morning Post | Jan 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NO TITLE | Jan 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Tim Cook, who let the #nsa get access through #prism , says #NSA doesn't have "back door access" to Apple servers. #liar #timcook #apple | Jan 26 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: In a way, Tim Cook is correct; there are no back doors, none are needed. #apple is just granting the #nsa physical, free access to data. | Jan 26 07:46 |
| iophk | front-door access then | Jan 26 07:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427421795135021056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427421639169835008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427422011506577408 | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Get 'em while they're young," they say... http://t.co/wCmJ5sSsit | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> io9.com | The NSA's website for kids isn't creepy. Nope. Not creepy at all. | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "send an e-mail without worrying what it will look like on their permanent record." http://t.co/LcZBo7jdO9 #nsa | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.maximumpc.com | Edward Snowden Elaborates on NSA, Spying | Maximum PC | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hawk for #nsa shows no signs of abolishing. #CIA Post: "White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden declined to comment" http://t.co/cILobCdAEK | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.washingtonpost.com | Obama signs off on nomination of Rogers as NSA director - The Washington Post | Jan 26 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Jan 26 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GA8iWJe4I1 | Jan 26 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6c6 | Jan 26 07:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora's Future Is Still Causing Lots Of Drama | Tux Machines | Jan 26 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423208107933696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423312177029120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427423755984723970 | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: You know we're seriously *ed when tech executives say to us there's no back door simply because NSA is secretly using front door (collusion) | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Crushing people's morale https://t.co/tPiIDRetFy | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Aldous Huxley saw it coming https://t.co/LXftL8yUOT | Jan 26 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427424428914642944 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427424899637194752 | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa is all about business, serving the oligarchs who own and control the nation http://t.co/Jv5w7dDrlN http://t.co/V4p7CDctEI | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.expatica.com | NSA also serves economic interests: Snowden interview < German news | Expatica Germany | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.sbs.com.au | NSA serves economic interests: Snowden | SBS News | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Death squads have assassinated eight trade union leaders in Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia." http://t.co/BGQwMVxO5u | Jan 26 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thirdworldtraveler.com | Stop Killer Coke! Death squads have assassinated eight trade union leaders in Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia. The Stop Killer Coke campaign holds the beverage giant responsible. | Jan 26 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427426087879319552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427426648418701312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427427455876755456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427427859909865472 | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Politico continues to give a platform to radicals http://t.co/5SLVKJzkyr whatever gives them hits | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.politico.com | Peter King slams RNC on NSA resolution - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "As it tries to protect us from the “bad guys,” the government has become more intrusive in our lives." http://t.co/yz4Ud9FkyL | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.aberdeennews.com | Letter: NSA tramples freedoms - AberdeenNews.com: Letters | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why is it always ABC (clue: conflict of interest) that's whitewashing #apple abuses? Not even a pretense of independence in media anymore. | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #cellphones : people "line up at stores to pay for the latest model of these monitoring devices." http://t.co/pM3ozDENaa | Jan 26 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Diary: My NSA Nightmare Last Night | OpEdNews | Jan 26 08:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427428742559195136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427428929432219650 | Jan 26 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How Many People Have Died in 5 Years of [Obama|NSA|CIA] #Drone Wars? ~2400 http://t.co/Vhw4uqF8ot http://t.co/jvttWgRBxt | Jan 26 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.policymic.com | How Many People Have Died in 5 Years of Drone Wars? - PolicyMic | Jan 26 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> english.farsnews.com | Farsnews | Jan 26 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Two former US officials criticize #drone war http://t.co/I4S1twFErQ "military general and another top counter-terrorism advisor" | Jan 26 08:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.nation.lk | nation.lk ::: - Two former US officials criticize drone war | Jan 26 08:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427430034866204672 | Jan 26 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "prosecutors are preparing to investigate allegations that #CIA ran secret detention camps in the county's forests" http://t.co/ruNR4FHb4R | Jan 26 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.worldbulletin.net | Poland to probe secret CIA prisons | Europe | World Bulletin | Jan 26 08:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427431180003450880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427431702630510592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427432212037124096 | Jan 26 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies https://t.co/3ZPLKp19YC #germany #ebergy | Jan 26 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> beyondrevolution.wordpress.com | Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies | Beyond Revolution | Jan 26 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: There are people who would work 60 hours per week for oligarchs and not spend one minute reading criticism, let alone attend a protest. | Jan 26 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Neo-Feudalism a taboo https://t.co/8uDWXatbOS | Jan 26 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558780 | Jan 26 08:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are people who would work 60 hours per week for oligarchs and not spend one minute reading criticism, let alone attend a protest. | Jan 26 08:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They can't even walk their dogs: https://pod.orkz.net/posts/898859 " | Jan 26 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | pod.orkz.net | ### #WTF?? | Jan 26 08:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427434549925404672 | Jan 26 08:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Definitely NOT to be used: hardware-level crypto (i.e. cryptic algo) in #amd #linux http://t.co/eq6Ng9ncsz avoid, it's a US company. #nsa | Jan 26 08:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Linux 3.14 Supports AMD's Cryptographic Coprocessor | Jan 26 08:42 |
| iophk | forgetting the illegal per-processor fees they had to compete against: | Jan 26 08:45 |
| iophk | http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mac-pioneers-lauded-as-apple-celebrates-30-years-of-macintosh-computers/story-fnjwukfu-1226810909050 | Jan 26 08:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.news.com.au | Mac pioneers lauded as Apple celebrates 30 years of Macintosh computers | News.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/gi6mt ] | Jan 26 08:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427438098507898880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427438687560138752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427439060723204096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427439410758840320 | Jan 26 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "It's alarming that few girls or students of color are taking computer science classes." http://t.co/v39T4CWD03 | Jan 26 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.motherjones.com | America's Coming Geek Gap | Mother Jones | Jan 26 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #linuxfoundation is trying hard to paint #linux development as multi-cultural and sex-agnostic. Commendable marketing, but unrealistic. | Jan 26 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Foes of FOSS have for a long time tried to portray FOSS as causing the gender gap (in CS). This has become a good way to identify FOSS foes. | Jan 26 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: It is widely known that the #cia traditionally used "human rights", "racism", and "women's rights" to justify (to public) economic coups | Jan 26 08:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427439254218616832 | Jan 26 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz there's a lot more women in proprietary dev than open source. those are the numbers. | Jan 26 08:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If the difference is 5% versus, say, 15%, then it's not so statistically significant. I heard this argument before. | Jan 26 08:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Negative discrimination plays a role in it. That is, contrary to the usual claims, companies often hire women for "balance" | Jan 26 08:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427441470082002944 | Jan 26 09:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz show me substantiation for this claim | Jan 26 09:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | personal stories; for statistical substantiation, someone will need to fund super controversial study | Jan 26 09:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427441674613039105 | Jan 26 09:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz it's 1% versus 15%. there is actually a problem. burying your head in the sand is avoidant behaviour. | Jan 26 09:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 1% for KDE maybe. Very different in FOSS companies, which also include various roles. | Jan 26 09:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I work for a FOSS company where about half the staff is female, inc. technical roles | Jan 26 09:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/unclepete_100/status/427442206429810688 | Jan 26 09:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @unclepete_100: @schestowitz Quelle surprise. | Jan 26 09:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427441800824258560 | Jan 26 09:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Digital footprints (spurious and unwanted), such as "utm_source=feedburner", show the infinite greed for offline #surveillance too | Jan 26 09:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558815 | Jan 26 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Definitely NOT to be used: hardware-level crypto (i.e. cryptic algo) in #amd #linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4MTM avoid, it's a US company. #nsa | Jan 26 09:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "what do you use?" | Jan 26 09:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One should use FOSS and not offload computation such as this to the co-processor | Jan 26 09:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427444277267169280 | Jan 26 09:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fast and loose with the term "Insider Trading" which is a crime http://t.co/jmtZ0h5HUG that's how some plutocrats get richer | Jan 26 09:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.fxnewscall.com | Recent Insider Trading: Facebook Inc (FB), Intel , Questcor, Red Hat, Texas Instruments, Verizon Communications | FX News Call | Jan 26 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New malware uses Windows to infect Android | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | devices http://t.co/6wc3lK0eXX | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6ta | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pwnium hackathon: Google offers over $2 million | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in rewards http://t.co/XqyohYixZv | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6tb | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | New malware uses Windows to infect Android devices | Tux Machines | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Pwnium hackathon: Google offers over $2 million in rewards | Tux Machines | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support. http://t.co/TmSTh5R04U | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6tc | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Unity7 Update in Ubuntu 14.04 Features Anti-aliased Windows & Full GTK3+ Theming Support. | Tux Machines | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for RAW Images http://t.co/6DEN8Miw1B | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi6td | Jan 26 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images | Tux Machines | Jan 26 09:21 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jan 26 09:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 26 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 26 09:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | TV is the appeal for others to find for you what you might find entertaining, usually because one cannot entertain oneself | Jan 26 09:36 |
| MinceR | dunno, i watch more tv programs on the web than on the tv :> | Jan 26 09:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427448000856989696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427448683442208769 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427449324810022912 | Jan 26 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Reading as an 'app' https://t.co/kZ7ftBia5W | Jan 26 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: CNN, after firing journalists in droves, warns #twitter and #facebook http://t.co/SCKsfgk8k4 | Jan 26 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Why Twitter should watch its back - CNN.com | Jan 26 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Google is watching you, with the help of fools who pay top bucks for #CCTV equipment http://t.co/wm3mRKJPsY | Jan 26 09:38 |
| Sosumi | pict of the day | Jan 26 09:57 |
| Sosumi | http://rense.com/1.imagesH/TPP-(R).jpg | Jan 26 09:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://rense.com/1.imagesH/TPP-(R ) | Jan 26 09:57 |
| Sosumi | TPPzila | Jan 26 09:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I see they've inserted some conpiracy theories into it | Jan 26 10:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559069 | Jan 26 10:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @kelvinpittman@diasp.org: via @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} | Jan 26 10:04 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427457806342828032 | Jan 26 10:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Discussion and education, one person at a time https://t.co/ozaBFyw3wH | Jan 26 10:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427458610483191809 | Jan 26 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Even the US government won't use US phones http://t.co/UIw3cfPZRj US phones have back doors. | Jan 26 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> chycho.blogspot.ca | chycho: The Irony and the Hypocrisy, the U.S. Department of Defense Is Using Blackberry for Its Privacy (Update on The Surveillance State) | Jan 26 10:14 |
| -->iophk (~iophk@unaffiliated/iophk) has joined #techrights | Jan 26 10:24 | |
| ---ChanServ gives channel operator status to iophk | Jan 26 10:24 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427461069385510912 | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Shortly after #billgates started to bribe 'guardian' it became very Google-hostile, even when #microsoft does worse http://t.co/MTnBKlgl7L | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Why Google Android software is not as free or open-source as you may think | Technology | theguardian.com | Jan 26 10:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Charles Arhur again | Jan 26 10:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427461734769901569 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427462091461914624 | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images http://t.co/rlv81x5jzs #gnome #gnu #linux #software | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | gThumb 3.3.1 Image Viewer Has Better Support for RAW Images | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/I56cZVFwp7 uber benchmark. #linux #phoronix | Jan 26 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Jan 26 10:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427463381059383296 | Jan 26 10:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hacking Open the Data Center http://t.co/hR8Kw0qmqS #sharing | Jan 26 10:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> recode.net | Hacking Open the Data Center | Re/code | Jan 26 10:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's good to see phoronic returning to hardware science and journalism as opposed to gossip and personalities cult | Jan 26 10:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427465711695724544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466205407240192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466760242352128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427466940672933888 | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #nsa #dropbox is worth a lot of money, but to who? http://t.co/mToB2X2YoG #datahoarding #marketing #prism #masssurveillance #surveillance | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.wsj.com | The Morning Download: Dropbox’s $10 Billion Valuation Shows Pull of Consumerization - The CIO Report - WSJ | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA: Monetising/extorting millions of fools who upload their data to some remote (in US) server and take cameras (phones) to their bathroom | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The best alternative for #dropbox is called "hard drive" (it's this thing you put in your machine), not #nsa traps: http://t.co/ImeMYqSYb6 | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.cbronline.com | 5 Dropbox alternatives for the small business - Computer Business Review | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "According to a new report by Splashdata, the most common password in 2013 was “123456”" http://t.co/uP9fKfNx99 | Jan 26 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gulfnews.com | ‘Password’ no longer the Internet’s worst password | GulfNews.com | Jan 26 10:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/24/twitter-box-dropbox-attracting-hordes-of-employees-away-from-tech-giants/ | Jan 26 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | venturebeat.com | Twitter, Box, and Dropbox attracting hordes of employees away from tech giants | VentureBeat | Business | by Rebecca Grant [ http://ur1.ca/gi78d ] | Jan 26 10:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427468352614064128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427468904827723776 | Jan 26 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #outage at #nsa #dropbox "was caused by internal maintenance," according to DropBox. Setting up more doors for NSA? http://t.co/L99zQJZ2qa | Jan 26 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wired.co.uk | Hackers claim responsibility for Dropbox outage (Wired UK) | Jan 26 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "US Investigative Journalist Michael Hastings told an incredible story when he returned from his 2010 trip" http://t.co/gDdNLAUf1M | Jan 26 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | How economic warfare killed the People's Bank — RT Op-Edge | Jan 26 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Comparison http://t.co/PrfhBxIFoV | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi798 | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 25-Way Open-Source Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking Open the Data Center | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IVfROTDbSd | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi799 | Jan 26 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Hacking Open the Data Center | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470039886086144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470376734433281 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427470698979004416 | Jan 26 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hidden ownership (also of the corporate media, as a World Bank whistleblower explained last year) https://t.co/Oo9LOVOLqk | Jan 26 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Science "another religion" response https://t.co/cPkNizwPxA | Jan 26 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #FBI priorities http://t.co/AfXhH7zr9y | Jan 26 10:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 26 11:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Why is Jobs overlaid on top of the British flag? That disgraceful sociopath was not British. | Jan 26 11:00 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: what search engine would you recommend? | Jan 26 11:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | none at the moment | Jan 26 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ixquick sold out | Jan 26 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and I don't know what to use anymore | Jan 26 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427474506333306880 | Jan 26 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: New Screenshots Galleries http://t.co/n0U2JExn5E :Instructionals http://t.co/b5lwS0KsEz : Games http://t.co/FyZEuNUu70 | Jan 26 11:15 |
| XFaCE | there's always that p2p one | Jan 26 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | New Screenshots Galleries | Techrights | Jan 26 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 26/1/2014: Instructionals | Techrights | Jan 26 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 26/1/2014: Games | Techrights | Jan 26 11:15 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz_bed2: how did they sell out exactly? | Jan 26 11:15 |
| XFaCE | I missed the tweet/article | Jan 26 11:15 |
| XFaCE | or rather I can't remember what it said | Jan 26 11:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they signed up with Google last year | Jan 26 11:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | AdSense and stuff | Jan 26 11:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they also opened an office and server side in the US | Jan 26 11:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So it is no longer a Dutch thing, and the government can force them to hand over users' dara | Jan 26 11:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *data | Jan 26 11:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/mageia-4-and-more/ #mageia #pclinuxos #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jan 26 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Mageia 4 Out Next Week, Mandriva and PCLinuxOS Still Very Much Alive | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi58z ] | Jan 26 11:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Tanx Roy, I have just installed mageia 3 in my nephew's laptop, an old Dell precision notebook, so I'm not happy to view this fast upgrade trend. In my opinion the cycles release could be more time long. One or one and half year are too much short. Ok the Mageia is a cutting-edge distribution but I like a more LTS version. Bye the way Mageia rulezzz :)" | Jan 26 11:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427478182963720192 | Jan 26 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hear, see, speak https://t.co/GIHs7kz5Og | Jan 26 11:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://blog.tenstral.net/2014/01/next-stop-fosdem14.html | Jan 26 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blog.tenstral.net | Ximion's Blog » Blog Archive » Next stop: FOSDEM’14 [ http://ur1.ca/gi7if ] | Jan 26 11:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427479291581190144 | Jan 26 11:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Making #apple even angrier at #android http://t.co/hxl6jYJeHj | Jan 26 11:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.junauza.com | How to Give your Android Smartphone the iOS 7 Look | TechSource | Jan 26 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/Z0hNUuGYhj | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7ku | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/iHw2HPJ53o | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7kv | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/7hwHAvTyZc | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi7kw | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 26 11:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427482413678493696 | Jan 26 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Interview: Linus #Torvalds - "I don't read code any more" http://t.co/sPb2M37DZd reposted, still interesting | Jan 26 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk | open...: Interview: Linus Torvalds - "I don't read code any more" | Jan 26 11:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/01/25/military-industrial-complex-needs-al-qaeda-best-enemy-money-can-buy/ | Jan 26 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dcclothesline.com | Why the Military Industrial Complex Needs Al-Qaeda, the Best Enemy Money Can Buy | [ http://ur1.ca/gi7lx ] | Jan 26 11:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'When Ted Cruz infamously warned against the U.S. acting as “Al-Qaeda’s air force,” he was referring to White House support for rebel jihadists in Syria, the most effective of whom represent groups like ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra." | Jan 26 11:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Lost up north https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_9adbe3bbc6fbf53a9818.gif | Jan 26 12:00 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7951101440 | Jan 26 12:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | Obama Wants to Give Your Toys to Other Kids - Cheezburger | Jan 26 12:02 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7950557184 | Jan 26 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | What the Government Thinks of Citizens Who Want Their Privacy - Cheezburger | Jan 26 12:05 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/edward-snowden-nsa-industrial-sabotage | Jan 26 12:07 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/26/snowden-nsa_n_4668661.html | Jan 26 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | German TV: Edward Snowden says NSA is involved in industrial sabotage | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi7q7 ] | Jan 26 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.com | German TV: Snowden Says NSA Also Spies On Industry [ http://ur1.ca/gi7q8 ] | Jan 26 12:07 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427488442441027584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427488920495198208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427489392081788928 | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "leaders want to officially state their displeasure with federal military policy during the “war on..."" (dissent) http://t.co/cohdVpEzwg | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> americanfreepress.net | States Say “Stop” to NDAA | American Free Press | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ndaa Nullification "Trend Is Spreading" http://t.co/jJvnqAmunP "nullify unconstitutional acts of the federal government." | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.thenewamerican.com | Wall Street Journal Takes Notice: Nullification "Trend Is Spreading" | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ndaa = "presidential authority, to arrest, kidnap, detain without trial and hold indefinitely American citizens" http://t.co/23Xg3jUmIL | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.libertynewsonline.com | THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT - HAS CONGRESS GRANTED OBAMA FREE REIN TO INSTITUTE MARTIAL LAW? | Jan 26 12:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427490328149778432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427490769185042432 | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: British MPs demand scrutiny of US military bases amid spying reports http://t.co/C3qVohSPvA based that help maim and kill | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | British MPs demand scrutiny of US military bases amid spying reports — RT News | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #cia did not give #Karzai ENOUGH black bags full of cash http://t.co/rRNyjMUhe6 #drones #assassination | Jan 26 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> tribune.com.pk | Karzai to US: Start talks with Taliban or leave – The Express Tribune | Jan 26 12:24 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558142 | Jan 26 12:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "One and half year is not enough for me. If I Installed mageia3 3 month late and I don't want the risk to have a not supported O.S., I have only one year of true use of mageia. I must to upgrade some months in advance because: * buy new hardware (HD, SSD) * have time to upgrade * buy flash memory for safety backup * have time to set-up the new DE (Desktop environment) if is a new installation (/home preserved) * ecc ecc usually I | Jan 26 12:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | have both the old mageia and the new because the troubles with the hardware and software often occurs." | Jan 26 12:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Mageia is the best distribution for me, I'm a Mageia supporter so I criticize It ;)" | Jan 26 12:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ' | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Google's been doing an awfully good job of generating its own home-grown hostility. | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | From 1998 to about 2005, I was overwhelmingly supportive of the company. | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | With the release of Gmail, I started to have my concerns. It's a good product, but handing my search and email data to the same company calls for a huge investment of trust. | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Over the 2.5 years I've watched Google+ play out and develop, my attitude has turned sharply negative. The company's behavior cannot simply be seen as benign, as I've noted, even with the best of intentions, [Google cannot protect its users against a nation-sized advanced persistent threat. | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And I'm no longer convinced in the least Google has the best of intentions. | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Search + mail + phone + Nest .... | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Really, the uncanny valley of creepiness has been well and truly entered. | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 26 12:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1u356d/schmidt_my_biggest_mistake_is_still_not_realizing/ | Jan 26 12:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.reddit.com | Schmidt: My biggest mistake is still not realizing my biggest mistake : dredmorbius [ http://ur1.ca/gi7ua ] | Jan 26 12:27 |
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| roy_ | hey | Jan 26 14:41 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/427521400316764160 | Jan 26 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz @glynmoody how extremely annoying | Jan 26 14:42 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559561 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559675 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559946 | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Patents Roundup: SCOTUS, Qualcomm, and ‘Beneficial’ ‘Innovations’ (Patent Troll) http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/scotus-qualcomm/ #scotus #swpats #foss #linux | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Patents Roundup: SCOTUS, Qualcomm, and ‘Beneficial’ ‘Innovations’ (Patent Troll) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m1 ] | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bringing #TheH Open/H-Online Articles Back Online Without Help From #Heise http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/against-heise-deletionism/ hopefully, others can follow @glynmoody | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Bringing The H Open/H-Online Articles Back Online Without Help From Heise | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m2 ] | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gi8m4 ] | Jan 26 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/iVrUbYaRqs | Jan 26 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gi8rw | Jan 26 15:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:02 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427532194048139264 | Jan 26 15:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Today in Techrights http://t.co/zFVoxR4Dwv #techrights | Jan 26 15:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:03 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560035 | Jan 26 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Conclusion of the day re #e17 : plasma-desktop (KDE4) can be run under Enlightenment but it's windowed and klipper still not supported | Jan 26 15:12 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/427527032713383936 | Jan 26 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @EllieAsksWhy: @davidgerard Articles were to remain accessible! I didn't know you read H-Online. I liked the fora, only read though, shy @schestowitz | Jan 26 15:14 |
| iophk | Is there a good link to a promise to keep The H articles online? Or was that on the H site itself? | Jan 26 15:15 |
| roy_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546218/Birds-released-Vatican-gesture-peace-immediately-attacked-vicious-seagull-crow.html | Jan 26 15:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | Doves released in the Vatican are immediately attacked by seagull and crow | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gi8up ] | Jan 26 15:18 |
| roy_ | On The H | Jan 26 15:18 |
| roy_ | dj said so | Jan 26 15:18 |
| iophk | Was it more advertising money from M$ which motivated them to pull the plug? | Jan 26 15:19 |
| iophk | http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-why-it-s-the-third-gaming-platform-1214797 | Jan 26 15:33 |
| iophk | PS4 ? | Jan 26 15:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 26 15:33 |
| MinceR | the article claims that's linux-based | Jan 26 15:34 |
| iophk | Yeah, it looked that way. | Jan 26 15:35 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/streaming-comes-to-steam-run-on-your-gaming-rig-play-on-your-laptop/ | Jan 26 15:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Streaming comes to Steam: run on your gaming rig, play on your laptop | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi8xh ] | Jan 26 15:35 |
| iophk | Maybe using the M$ definition where all non-M$ stuff is "linux" | Jan 26 15:35 |
| Sosumi | awesome and works on linux too | Jan 26 15:35 |
| Sosumi | and it is local streaming | Jan 26 15:37 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 26 16:43 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560044 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560050 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560062 | Jan 26 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How To See All The Companies That Are Tracking You On Facebook — And Block Them | Jan 26 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessinsider.com | See All The Companies That Are Tracking You On Facebook — And Block Them - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gi9hi ] | Jan 26 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ARD - Interview mit Edward Snowden 26 01 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alxpfco7Bq4 #abc acts as though it's surprised | Jan 26 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | ARD - Interview mit Edward Snowden 26 01 2014 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gi8qt ] | Jan 26 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's time to stop investing in the fossil fuel industry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/30/fossil-fuel-divestment-climate-change IMG: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_d7ae1605d41e6f99b0af.jpg | Jan 26 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | It's time to stop investing in the fossil fuel industry | Bill McKibben | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gi9hn ] | Jan 26 17:12 |
| roy_ | https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427567466727100417 https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568159349301248 https://mobile.twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568423925972993 | Jan 26 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r7 ] | Jan 26 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r8 ] | Jan 26 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gi9r9 ] | Jan 26 17:27 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427567466727100417 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568159349301248 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427568423925972993 | Jan 26 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell http://t.co/jBav1Gws6x #ibm #nsa | Jan 26 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell | Techrights | Jan 26 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA director https://t.co/Uw8CrYLJgo | Jan 26 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Saving world https://t.co/FvGDukbwlL | Jan 26 17:28 |
| roy_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1661855_281042458715294_1051054185_n.jpg | Jan 26 17:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are | Jan 26 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a Company’s Death Knell http://t.co/fC3YgHFT1H | Jan 26 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giafb | Jan 26 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy | Jan 26 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in the living room' http://t.co/XD804BptZ5 | Jan 26 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Company’s Death Knell | Tux Machines | Jan 26 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giafc | Jan 26 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' | Tux Machines | Jan 26 18:17 |
| roy_ | http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/shelves_and_gadgets.html | Jan 26 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bodhilinux.com | Bodhi Guide to Enlightenment - Shelves and Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/giafm ] | Jan 26 18:19 |
| roy_ | http://e17-stuff.org/ | Jan 26 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | e17-stuff.org | Everything for your Enlightenment Desktop - E17-Stuff.org | Jan 26 18:19 |
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| roy_ | wow | Jan 26 18:44 |
| roy_ | I think elive being non-free led to this: http://e17-stuff.org/groups/?id=271 | Jan 26 18:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | e17-stuff.org | Group E17-Stuff.org | Jan 26 18:44 |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560650 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560649 | Jan 26 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/62964 #steam #gnu #linux | Jan 26 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Machines 'a big step forward for strategy in the living room' | Tux Machines | Jan 26 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: While experimenting with gadgets, themes, extensions for Enlightenment I found this group, maybe ELive-associated http://e17-stuff.org/groups/?id=271 | Jan 26 19:00 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm so mad right now. | Jan 26 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Somehow, Facebook posted a timeline update with a picture that my bf posted of his ex last year before he met me. | Jan 26 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | and it flagged it as a new post | Jan 26 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | So I called him and screamed at him, and then he had no idea what I was angry about. | Jan 26 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing good ever comes from Facebook. | Jan 26 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering switching back to Kubuntu. I've used Fedora for a little over a year. | Jan 26 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | The 14.04 LTS will have components that are new enough to do everything I want to do. | Jan 26 22:07 |
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| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1601033_752695911408056_1883262209_n.jpg | Jan 26 22:26 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gawker.com/coca-cola-wants-to-share-a-coke-but-not-with-gay-peopl-1509595122?rev=1390796154 | Jan 26 23:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gawker.com | Coca-Cola Wants to Share a Coke, But Not With Gay People [ http://ur1.ca/gic5l ] | Jan 26 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Coke much anyway. | Jan 26 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | When I go out to eat these days, I get water. | Jan 26 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | The price of Coke products at restaurants has gotten so bad that it can add $3 to your bill for each person. | Jan 26 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Tim and I just get water when we go out for dinner. | Jan 26 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I had a waiter at Applebees try to bring me a "Dasani" bottled water and charge me $2 for it. | Jan 26 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "No, that's not what I wanted. I wanted tap water. | Jan 26 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | So now I specify "tap water". | Jan 26 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Who pays $2 for a 20 ounce bottle of water? | Jan 26 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Tim needs new tires. His rear tires are worn down so bad that they're bald. He had one go flat so I put some tire slime in it and reinflated it. | Jan 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | You don't want to do that to a tire that has lots of tread left on it, because then nobody will patch it. | Jan 26 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | But the tire is basically finished and he just needs to get around for a few more days on it. | Jan 26 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I run mine down until they're bald too, unless it's winter. | Jan 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Tires have really gotten expensive, because the federal government is imposing import tariffs on them now. | Jan 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | A $55 tire in 2007 is now an $85 tire. :P | Jan 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So if you can run them for a few more months, it makes sense to do that. | Jan 26 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/651531-fiber-one-bars-good-or-bad-4-u | Jan 26 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.myfitnesspal.com | Fiber one bars...good or bad 4 u? | MyFitnessPal.com [ http://ur1.ca/gic88 ] | Jan 26 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | Fiber bars remind me of that "bad gas explosion" question on that IQ test. | Jan 26 23:46 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gawker.com/evil-triumphs-satanic-birds-attack-popes-peace-doves-1509242394 | Jan 27 02:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gawker.com | Evil Triumphs: Satanic Birds Attack Pope's Peace Doves [ http://ur1.ca/giczz ] | Jan 27 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jan 27 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR will like that. | Jan 27 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | "The children were young, impressionable, and are now likely ruined." | Jan 27 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | And that was just from being raped by the priests before seeing the birds attacked. | Jan 27 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 27 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1521936_10153756588540486_1597010073_n.jpg | Jan 27 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://readwrite.com/2014/01/23/why-the-linux-desktop-never-mattered | Jan 27 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | readwrite.com | Why The Linux Desktop Doesn't Matter Anymore – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/ghl1m ] | Jan 27 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Matt Asay writes an anti-Linux hit piece. | Jan 27 03:16 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 27 04:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: awesome | Jan 27 04:14 |
| MinceR | if they knew a bit about how doves behave, they wouldn't have associated peace with them | Jan 27 04:22 |
| MinceR | anyway | Jan 27 04:22 |
| gde33 | I just had the thought that net neutrality might be a bad idea | Jan 27 04:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung, Google sign patent deal | Jan 27 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G2uTxQbE4D | Jan 27 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidik | Jan 27 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung, Google sign patent deal | Tux Machines | Jan 27 04:29 |
| gde33 | I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 04:29 |
| gde33 | if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 04:29 |
| iophk | I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. | Jan 27 04:30 |
| gde33 | it might just be great if you had to pay for things | Jan 27 04:30 |
| iophk | Maybe it will be really great if the carriers can charge for both ends of the connection instead of just the one. | Jan 27 04:30 |
| gde33 | it seems nesasary | Jan 27 04:31 |
| iophk | And thus kill the goose that has been laying the golden eggs. | Jan 27 04:31 |
| gde33 | the alternative is to create google and bling monsters | Jan 27 04:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Samsung, Google sign patent deal http://t.co/G2uTxQbE4D' | Jan 27 04:31 | |
| gde33 | I'm not so sure about that | Jan 27 04:32 |
| iophk | False dichotomy. The net, with net neutrality, has made a lot of money for a lot of people and their businesses. | Jan 27 04:32 |
| gde33 | I think people who make it their goal not to earn money are never going to have the influence they seek | Jan 27 04:32 |
| iophk | There's probably precious few small businesses without a web presence. | Jan 27 04:32 |
| iophk | Anything bigger has a serious web site. | Jan 27 04:33 |
| gde33 | it isn't a system that favors the little guy at all | Jan 27 04:33 |
| gde33 | it favors the big and fat | Jan 27 04:33 |
| iophk | Eliminating net neutrality will eliminate the little guy all together. | Jan 27 04:33 |
| gde33 | nonsense | Jan 27 04:33 |
| iophk | Too many fees. | Jan 27 04:33 |
| iophk | Double billing . | Jan 27 04:33 |
| gde33 | I would just get an internet contract with those things as well | Jan 27 04:33 |
| <--ohama has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | Jan 27 04:33 | |
| gde33 | not double | Jan 27 04:33 |
| gde33 | just have those pay who should pay | Jan 27 04:34 |
| gde33 | google is earning 50 bucks for a click | Jan 27 04:34 |
| iophk | They already are. | Jan 27 04:34 |
| gde33 | I have to pay for the pipe? | Jan 27 04:34 |
| gde33 | make me laugh? | Jan 27 04:34 |
| iophk | They're paying already. | Jan 27 04:34 |
| iophk | You're paying for your end already. | Jan 27 04:34 |
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| gde33 | people also dont aperciate content if it is free | Jan 27 04:34 |
| iophk | "content" | Jan 27 04:34 |
| iophk | It's already paid for. | Jan 27 04:34 |
| gde33 | dont apperciate anythign that is free | Jan 27 04:34 |
| gde33 | take it for granted | Jan 27 04:35 |
| iophk | Name one web site that is not paid for by somebody or some company / org? | Jan 27 04:35 |
| iophk | It's all paid for, plenty of money sloshing around out there now. | Jan 27 04:35 |
| gde33 | no offense to poor people but that type of traffic just isn't worth the bandwith | Jan 27 04:36 |
| iophk | "Name one web site that is not paid for by somebody or some company / org?" | Jan 27 04:36 |
| gde33 | that is just to pay for the centraly controlled server design flaw | Jan 27 04:38 |
| MinceR | 102940 < gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 04:38 |
| MinceR | fame or fun is often enough reward | Jan 27 04:38 |
| gde33 | no it isn't | Jan 27 04:38 |
| iophk | or actual money | Jan 27 04:38 |
| iophk | Volkswagen makes money off of their web presence. | Jan 27 04:38 |
| iophk | So does Netflix. | Jan 27 04:38 |
| gde33 | I want to be an artist and make a living doing that, if my art sucks it wont work I understand that, if it doesn't suck I would need a day job with it? | Jan 27 04:38 |
| gde33 | the audience is just cheap | Jan 27 04:39 |
| gde33 | thats what is wrong | Jan 27 04:39 |
| gde33 | want the fruits of my labor for free | Jan 27 04:39 |
| MinceR | also, eliminating net neutrality will merely increase the barriers to entry for little guys | Jan 27 04:39 |
| gde33 | I'm trying but it is very limited | Jan 27 04:39 |
| gde33 | I'm not seeing that | Jan 27 04:40 |
| MinceR | also, not all artists make a living from art | Jan 27 04:40 |
| iophk | Most art only has value after the demise of the artist. | Jan 27 04:40 |
| gde33 | I think you should spend your money how you like | Jan 27 04:40 |
| iophk | Many famous works are that way. | Jan 27 04:41 |
| gde33 | if that shuold be made impossible we should get rid of money | Jan 27 04:41 |
| gde33 | dont blame the internet for how things work? | Jan 27 04:41 |
| iophk | So why are you blaming the net then? | Jan 27 04:41 |
| gde33 | my curiosity was triggered by it not being such a bad idea as it seemed at first | Jan 27 04:42 |
| iophk | Nothing stops you for putting up a paywall on your site. | Jan 27 04:42 |
| gde33 | lots of things stop me from doing that | Jan 27 04:42 |
| gde33 | how would you like to pay? | Jan 27 04:43 |
| iophk | Offer several options. | Jan 27 04:43 |
| gde33 | howabout a contract with your service provider | Jan 27 04:43 |
| iophk | No ISPs that I know of offer gated communities in that way. | Jan 27 04:44 |
| iophk | You need to set up your own paywall.. | Jan 27 04:44 |
| gde33 | every man for himself | Jan 27 04:44 |
| gde33 | or else it wouldn't be neutral | Jan 27 04:44 |
| gde33 | lmao | Jan 27 04:44 |
| gde33 | it isn't going to work | Jan 27 04:44 |
| iophk | It works for some. | Jan 27 04:44 |
| gde33 | it should be a subscription system | Jan 27 04:44 |
| iophk | It seems to work for Netflix | Jan 27 04:44 |
| gde33 | so that I can get packages with stuff in them | Jan 27 04:45 |
| MinceR | so, every isp/media conglomerate for itself? | Jan 27 04:45 |
| gde33 | we need a system to get the money from the end user into the developer pockets | Jan 27 04:45 |
| gde33 | the ISP is THE way to do this | Jan 27 04:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/andrew_roffey/status/427737298763915265 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/427737452174782464 | Jan 27 04:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @andrew_roffey: @schestowitz it looks like @glynmoody has his blog licensed as CC0 which means it should be easier for his work to be republished | Jan 27 04:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @andrew_roffey @schestowitz yup | Jan 27 04:45 |
| iophk | You're talking net tax instead now. | Jan 27 04:45 |
| gde33 | there we have evidence of payments, known customer base etc etc | Jan 27 04:45 |
| MinceR | there are many micropayment providers, there could be even more | Jan 27 04:46 |
| iophk | flattr, bitcoin, moneybookers, etc. | Jan 27 04:46 |
| MinceR | bitcoin and the like might also be used | Jan 27 04:46 |
| gde33 | my paywall would burn off 99.999% of my traffic | Jan 27 04:46 |
| gde33 | not that traffic would happen of course | Jan 27 04:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427739333748326400 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427735666110521344 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427735334529794048 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427730491933224961 | Jan 27 04:46 |
| iophk | I feel bad for the fellow who bought a pizza with a large number of bitcoins a few years back. | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: [RT] Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States http://t.co/H1ajh8UYhv … #amd #linux #nsa | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Never Ever Use Coprocessors for Cryptology, Especially If Implemented in the United States | Techrights | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Samsung, Google sign patent deal http://t.co/BdjEArOUWW #patent #samsung #google #android | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung, Google sign patent deal - Muktware | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Privacy News: Ten States Against the NSA, Snowden Speaks About Espionage http://t.co/KM5gpejsDP #nsa #privacy | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Privacy News: Ten States Against the NSA, Snowden Speaks About Espionage | Techrights | Jan 27 04:47 |
| MinceR | so you'd instead force the users to pay through the one ISP that's available in their area? | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life http://t.co/9HLK8Ep8Ki remember when the #fbi sent letters with death threats? | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life | Jan 27 04:47 |
| gde33 | iophk: I use to lurk the channel read the daily bitcoin skeptic | Jan 27 04:47 |
| iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2013/12/23/the-bitcoin-pizza-purchase-thats-worth-7-million-today/ | Jan 27 04:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | The Bitcoin Pizza Purchase That's Worth $7 Million Today - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gidlr ] | Jan 27 04:47 |
| gde33 | iophk: those would all be milionares now :P | Jan 27 04:47 |
| MinceR | and have the isp block your site if they don't want to let you sell access? | Jan 27 04:47 |
| MinceR | for example, if they run a competing site | Jan 27 04:47 |
| gde33 | that should be the only excuse not to grant access | Jan 27 04:48 |
| gde33 | running the wrong payment processor is not a good excuse not to make money | Jan 27 04:48 |
| gde33 | I wish the internet worked with real id's | Jan 27 04:48 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 04:48 |
| MinceR | but competing with an isp/media conglomerate is? | Jan 27 04:48 |
| gde33 | some sort of system that makes it worth to create content | Jan 27 04:49 |
| iophk | Define content. | Jan 27 04:49 |
| gde33 | say you sit yourself down and write a book | Jan 27 04:49 |
| gde33 | now you are going to publish it on the internet | Jan 27 04:50 |
| iophk | So far the net is empty with no info at all out there. Not even one service or product yet. We've got all this connectivity and waiting with no results yet... | Jan 27 04:50 |
| gde33 | now you need multinationals because that is net neutrality | Jan 27 04:50 |
| gde33 | writing for the enemy | Jan 27 04:50 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 04:50 |
| iophk | Publish via a publisher. There are many to choose from. It can be a small publisher. | Jan 27 04:50 |
| gde33 | it wont work | Jan 27 04:51 |
| gde33 | it just doesnt work | Jan 27 04:51 |
| iophk | Nope. No e-books have happened yet. We're still waiting for them. | Jan 27 04:51 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's not like people are making money by selling books | Jan 27 04:51 |
| MinceR | right now | Jan 27 04:51 |
| gde33 | it doesnt work because the deal doesn't depend on the quality of the work | Jan 27 04:51 |
| MinceR | in the model you propose, it would depend a lot less on the quality of the work | Jan 27 04:51 |
| MinceR | it would depend only on which isp manages to get a monopoly where you live | Jan 27 04:52 |
| gde33 | not that I dont apperciate the crusade against the monopoly but we seem to have lost that war already | Jan 27 04:52 |
| MinceR | so let's give up and hand everything else to the winners, too? | Jan 27 04:53 |
| gde33 | if you want a stable system you have to accept a bit of bad works that go unpunished | Jan 27 04:53 |
| MinceR | that's not a "bit" | Jan 27 04:54 |
| gde33 | MinceR: not at all | Jan 27 04:54 |
| iophk | gde33: name one site that is not paid for already | Jan 27 04:54 |
| gde33 | just look at all perspectives, apperciate the view, then try find something better | Jan 27 04:54 |
| gde33 | I could most likely still make a popular website, but when I did I hated the attention. | Jan 27 04:55 |
| gde33 | you need thousands of people, then you still earn nothing. | Jan 27 04:55 |
| gde33 | you have to plaster the pages with advertisement to get tiny revenue :P | Jan 27 04:56 |
| iophk | Then you need a better business plan... | Jan 27 04:56 |
| gde33 | the web needs one | Jan 27 04:56 |
| gde33 | the content creator should be judged by his content, now how he plays the search engine lotto | Jan 27 04:56 |
| MinceR | your scheme would merely force users to pay whoever wins the search engine lottery | Jan 27 04:57 |
| gde33 | not the user | Jan 27 04:57 |
| MinceR | or whoever diverts the user's browser using whatever exploit works | Jan 27 04:57 |
| gde33 | the packages should be tailored just like television stations | Jan 27 04:58 |
| gde33 | just like you get a bunch of magazines | Jan 27 04:58 |
| gde33 | because the web is so big you can do huge numbers of them | Jan 27 04:58 |
| iophk | I see. The net is too open and the cable tv model is more appropriate, you say. | Jan 27 04:58 |
| gde33 | it has it's advantages | Jan 27 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think that DRM might be losing more sales for them than it's worth. | Jan 27 04:59 |
| iophk | I haven't seen any. Most I've seen myself and heard from others is that the cable tv model, with bundling, is a liability. | Jan 27 04:59 |
| iophk | DRM does cost sales. | Jan 27 04:59 |
| MinceR | 105810 < gde33> the packages should be tailored just like television stations | Jan 27 05:00 |
| gde33 | we would get ourselves the FOSS package and read delicious FOSS blogs the whole month | Jan 27 05:00 |
| MinceR | so, you get a bunch of sites your isp happens to like | Jan 27 05:00 |
| MinceR | not the ones you want | Jan 27 05:00 |
| MinceR | that's a great business model, yeah | Jan 27 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Right. I remember asking Comcast repeatedly to carry LOGO. | Jan 27 05:00 |
| gde33 | whoever wants to make the selection | Jan 27 05:00 |
| MinceR | if you live in a fantasy where every isp likes your site that much | Jan 27 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | They finally did, over two years later. | Jan 27 05:00 |
| iophk | Research databases also have that model. High-impact journals are spread across several bundles so that the fees to get all of them are outrageous to impossible. | Jan 27 05:01 |
| gde33 | you still get the normal internet | Jan 27 05:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, if crippled is "normal" | Jan 27 05:01 |
| gde33 | we just get extra stuff behind a paywall | Jan 27 05:01 |
| MinceR | if you get that at all | Jan 27 05:01 |
| MinceR | which is not likely | Jan 27 05:01 |
| iophk | AOL and others have tried that walled-garden approach. | Jan 27 05:01 |
| gde33 | the moment you have the means to pay me I will create that content for you | Jan 27 05:01 |
| gde33 | I should be doing this for free? | Jan 27 05:02 |
| MinceR | the means exists now | Jan 27 05:02 |
| MinceR | what you've proposed will not help you. | Jan 27 05:02 |
| gde33 | interesting deal, how sell this to me? | Jan 27 05:02 |
| gde33 | I'm not motivated :P | Jan 27 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Well, porn and piracy are driving most of the demand for fast internet. | Jan 27 05:02 |
| MinceR | then don't do anything | Jan 27 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Good luck getting people to pay for what they will gladly take for free right now. | Jan 27 05:02 |
| gde33 | the FOSS subscription will give you access to a web entirely without people who didn't buy that subscription | Jan 27 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | They need to monetize the "piracy" somehow. | Jan 27 05:02 |
| gde33 | that is the added value | Jan 27 05:02 |
| gde33 | finally a whole web with nothing but apple users | Jan 27 05:03 |
| iophk | DaemonFC: bill has monetized piracy already. It's his means of maintaining monopoly rents, which is where nearly all of his money comes from. | Jan 27 05:03 |
| gde33 | you want to put any idiot on the page then give him a form to submit into my database | Jan 27 05:03 |
| gde33 | thats just.... hahahha | Jan 27 05:03 |
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| gde33 | it is just a thought of course | Jan 27 05:04 |
| gde33 | you will be shocked by how well everything works if you get rid of everyone who doesn't want to pay 50 cents to be part of it. | Jan 27 05:06 |
| iophk | Where is the example to show off for that model? | Jan 27 05:09 |
| iophk | The existing model makes trillions of dollars per year | Jan 27 05:09 |
| gde33 | a guy I know use to organise business meet ups where people could invest in stuff | Jan 27 05:09 |
| gde33 | it cost 10 guilders at first | Jan 27 05:09 |
| gde33 | it produced an audience of moaners | Jan 27 05:10 |
| gde33 | he increased the price over time, he is now at 2000 euro per ticket | Jan 27 05:10 |
| gde33 | at the beginning of the meeting he explains that this is way to much for 1 cup of coffee | Jan 27 05:10 |
| gde33 | and that he has no idea what to do with all the money | Jan 27 05:10 |
| gde33 | but it was just to get rid of everyone who didn't want to pay that just for the ticket | Jan 27 05:11 |
| gde33 | then everyone laughs | Jan 27 05:11 |
| gde33 | he tells the same story every year | Jan 27 05:11 |
| iophk | "there's one born every minute" | Jan 27 05:11 |
| gde33 | they actually get work done in this setting | Jan 27 05:11 |
| gde33 | with the cheaper tickets the non investors took all the time, they are just skeptical, it isnt strange or anything. | Jan 27 05:12 |
| gde33 | you would be sitting there with your 10 guilder ticket cheering at the stage " there is one born every minute" | Jan 27 05:13 |
| gde33 | hehehe | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Call for votes on default Linux init system for | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jessie http://t.co/c4EOboStUf | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidu9 | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie | Tux Machines | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Tiny Core is pleased to announce the | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | release of Core v5.2 http://t.co/KCyVQEIhoD | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gidua | Jan 27 05:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Team Tiny Core is pleased to announce the release of Core v5.2 | Tux Machines | Jan 27 05:13 |
| gde33 | a whole web for religious people | Jan 27 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxSM8XVQ2DLI2R | Jan 27 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Everybody already knew that there "are no gays in Iran", unless the religious fundamentalists forgot to hang or shoot one. Now, we know that the same is true in Sochi (Russia). [ http://ur1.ca/gidvd ] | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | Several gay bars, but no gay people. Hmmm.... | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | Fundamentalist Christians in America admire this position of the Ayatollah Khamenei and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and seek to use their examples as a model for America. | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25909656 | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | From the article: | Jan 27 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Sochi mayor tells BBC: No gay people in our town [ http://ur1.ca/gidvh ] | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | "The mayor of Sochi, host of the Winter Olympics, has said there are no gay people in the city." | Jan 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov said there were several gay bars in Sochi." | Jan 27 05:16 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/why-the-copyright-industry-is-doomed-in-one-single-sentence-140126/ | Jan 27 05:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Why The Copyright Industry Is Doomed, In One Single Sentence | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gidwh ] | Jan 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | DaemonFC: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427747764089659392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427747932566482944 | Jan 27 05:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BBC headline makes it sound like #sochi mayor said opposite of what he actually said http://t.co/q6mCH9nGG3 sounds like #propaganda is #bbc | Jan 27 05:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Western nations: when we can't discredit a rival nation using women's rights, then we look hard for other angles and then twist words. | Jan 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | DaemonFC: dont fall into the trap of russophobia | Jan 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the US and UK want you to | Jan 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the NSA does too | Jan 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those terrorists | Jan 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427746932187209728 | Jan 27 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: February 11, 2014: The Day We Fight Back Against the NSA http://t.co/zTalwnqExa activism before love? | Jan 27 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | Several gay bars. | Jan 27 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | February 11, 2014: The Day We Fight Back Against the NSA - FOSS Force | Jan 27 05:21 |
| iophk | espcially the NSA | Jan 27 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | No gay people. | Jan 27 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | How does that work? | Jan 27 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | Who is making this endeavor profitable? | Jan 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the BBC made it sound like he denies them access | Jan 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | but the body of the article says the opposite | Jan 27 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | "leave the children alone" is pretty damned offensive | Jan 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Orwell/Blair uses to work for the BBC, writing propaganda for them | Jan 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They need to make it look objective while it's not | Jan 27 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | How would you feel if all straight people were labeled child molesters and told that they could be thrown in prison for even talking to someone under 18? | Jan 27 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | Of course this is ridiculous. | Jan 27 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | If it was just Putin, it wouldn't be Russian law. | Jan 27 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that they have a legislature there. :) | Jan 27 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1743637_856753227687465_741847872_n.jpg | Jan 27 05:28 |
| iophk | "On February 11th, participating U.S. websites will display banners urging their visitors to call or email their Congressperson or Senator" | Jan 27 05:29 |
| iophk | How does that work for sites outside the US? They are affected as well and could participate in the 11 feb protest. | Jan 27 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1535738_10201464001784831_123840603_n.jpg | Jan 27 05:30 |
| iophk | https://thedaywefightback.org/ | Jan 27 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thedaywefightback.org | The Day We Fight Back - February 11th 2014 | Jan 27 05:38 |
| iophk | kind of devoid of content | Jan 27 05:38 |
| MinceR | gde33: oh, i didn't realize that your business plan began with buying an ISP :> | Jan 27 05:39 |
| gde33 | I dont have any plan, the game seemed rigged | Jan 27 05:42 |
| gde33 | I have my own way of looking at the humanity, the more it diverts from the norm the more illogical my plans sound. | Jan 27 05:44 |
| gde33 | in my view orwell was an optimist | Jan 27 05:46 |
| gde33 | in his system at least one gets to be abused by other people | Jan 27 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.activistpost.com/2014/01/bank-run-fears-customers-being-forced.html | Jan 27 05:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash [ http://ur1.ca/gie4s ] | Jan 27 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Richard Stallman on How He Started GNU | Jan 27 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kxajfkYdEj | Jan 27 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Richard Stallman on How He Started GNU | Tux Machines | Jan 27 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gie5x | Jan 27 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/pope-doves-attacked-by-crow-seagull-st-peters-square | Jan 27 06:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Pope's peace doves attacked by crow and seagull | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gie76 ] | Jan 27 06:01 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/4NPtxDk.gif | Jan 27 06:20 |
| Sosumi | http://www.vulnerability-lab.com/get_content.php?id=1182 | Jan 27 06:25 |
| Sosumi | "Mozilla Thunderbird - WireTap Remote 0Day Vulnerability" | Jan 27 06:25 |
| Sosumi | also, there are no gays in saudi arabia, quatar, oman and UAE | Jan 27 06:29 |
| Sosumi | unless the medieval wahabi there forgot to shoot or behead them | Jan 27 06:31 |
| Sosumi | did I forget Bahrain? | Jan 27 06:32 |
| Sosumi | silly me | Jan 27 06:32 |
| Sosumi | and aren't those countries, specially saudi arabia, alongside with the US, UK, France and Israel the ones bankrolling jihadis into syria? | Jan 27 06:40 |
| Sosumi | yeah those guys that impose sharia law, that eat man's hearts aka canibalism, fornicate with corpses and so on? | Jan 27 06:41 |
| Sosumi | compared to those guys | Jan 27 06:41 |
| Sosumi | putin and khameni are actually kewl guys to hang with | Jan 27 06:42 |
| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/27/iphone-share-strong-android-lead/ | Jan 27 06:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Holds Strong as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gieik ] | Jan 27 06:46 |
| Sosumi | yes, holding strong while losing marketshare on all fronts to android and to lesses extent, pocket pc | Jan 27 06:46 |
| Sosumi | *windows phone | Jan 27 06:47 |
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| iophk | http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/top-news/police-3-dead-in-mall-shooting-devices-disabled/nc3M6/ | Jan 27 07:09 |
| iophk | "Police began tracking Aguilar's phone and soon discovered it was at the mall." | Jan 27 07:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ajc.com | Md. mall gunman was avid skater, no criminal past | www.ajc.com [ http://ur1.ca/giend ] | Jan 27 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux | Jan 27 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs http://t.co/tmXKq4g6cf | Jan 27 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giepa | Jan 27 07:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs | Tux Machines | Jan 27 07:16 |
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| iophk | http://opensource.com/education/14/1/interview-catherine-dumas-suny-albany | Jan 27 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Catherine Dumas of SUNY Albany | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/gifqi ] | Jan 27 10:13 |
| iophk | http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/27/apples-iphone-marketshare-dips-in-q4-samsung-falters-under-pressure-from-low-cost-oems | Jan 27 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | appleinsider.com | Apple's iPhone marketshare dips in Q4, Samsung falters under pressure from low-cost OEMs [ http://ur1.ca/gifzp ] | Jan 27 10:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427830328196349952 | Jan 27 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs http://t.co/jlmQfuLwPv #gnu #linux | Jan 27 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Benchmarking CompuLab's Small, Low-Power Linux PCs | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:20] <iophk> Was it more advertising money from M$ which motivated them to pull the plug? | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Unlikely, I doubt it, but it's not impossible | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 20:34] <iophk> http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-why-it-s-the-third-gaming-platform-1214797 | Jan 27 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:34] <iophk> PS4 ? | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.techradar.com | Linux: why it's the third gaming platform | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/gi8wz ] | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [20:36] <MinceR> the article claims that's linux-based | Jan 27 10:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Moving forward a generation to the brand new PS4, and Linux still binds the heart of the now X86 based powerhouse. Sony confirmed back in November that the angular beast uses a modified version of FreeBSD 9 Kernel to power its own Orbis OS." | Jan 27 10:57 |
| MinceR | the author doesn't seem to realize the difference between Linux and the FreeBSD kernel | Jan 27 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It's TechRadar, Britain's embarrassment and tech tabloid | Jan 27 10:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it does lots of headline baits | Jan 27 10:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 10:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Along the lines of "linux is dead" | Jan 27 10:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think it's somewhat connected to Linux Format, but I was never sure how exactly | Jan 27 10:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I remember this site negatively | Jan 27 10:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [08:18] <DaemonFC> Matt Asay writes an anti-Linux hit piece. | Jan 27 11:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So what's the news | Jan 27 11:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427833871552770048 | Jan 27 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Satan made them do it!" http://t.co/yKQ0A7Y6n7 | Jan 27 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gawker.com | Evil Triumphs: Satanic Birds Attack Pope's Peace Doves | Jan 27 11:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1521936_10153756588540486_1597010073_n.jpg | Jan 27 11:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Meh | Jan 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:31] <iophk> I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. :-) | Jan 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Content creators | Jan 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:30] <gde33> I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:30] <gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Poor content creator... who would farm for food? | Jan 27 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If anything, the copyright cartel/monoopoly NEEDS neutrality | Jan 27 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | to make it affordable to stream | Jan 27 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | people pay the bill for traddic | Jan 27 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the problem is, the cartel sometimes owns the cable companies too, or vice versa | Jan 27 11:05 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427835339357839360 | Jan 27 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: I eagerly wait for #bitcoin to become widely accepted, but judging by experience, monopoly/big banks will co-opt it http://t.co/fTQE8CSyJK | Jan 27 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | The Bitcoin Pizza Purchase That's Worth $7 Million Today - Forbes | Jan 27 11:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427836294866436096 | Jan 27 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash http://t.co/b2sENlPAFK sounds like #natwest | Jan 27 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash | Jan 27 11:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This headline is funny | Jan 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Then again, it's an Apple boosting site | Jan 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Classified under "religion" | Jan 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [11:47] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Holds Strong as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gieik ] | Jan 27 11:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.macrumors.com | iPhone Market Share Dips Slightly as Android Increases Lead in Global Smartphone Race - Mac Rumors | Jan 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Losing but strong LOL | Jan 27 11:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427837900328542208 | Jan 27 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Police began tracking Aguilar's phone and soon discovered it was at the mall." http://t.co/Ur2AzPCKc4 #trackingdevice | Jan 27 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ajc.com | Md. mall gunman was avid skater, no criminal past | www.ajc.com | Jan 27 11:18 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427838405205319680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427839318418538496 | Jan 27 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #apple is having a #microsoft moment http://t.co/fEpNYuZuDn | Jan 27 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> appleinsider.com | Apple's iPhone marketshare dips in Q4, Samsung falters under pressure from low-cost OEMs | Jan 27 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open source events grow at the #university http://t.co/paYeapLGSW | Jan 27 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Interview with Catherine Dumas of SUNY Albany | opensource.com | Jan 27 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source events grow at the university | Jan 27 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jF2DdLGyqc | Jan 27 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gig7h | Jan 27 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open source events grow at the university | Tux Machines | Jan 27 11:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427848027995639810 | Jan 27 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Write like a champ with #latex aided by these tools http://t.co/M8LLdewj2O | Jan 27 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxlinks.com | Essential LaTeX Tools - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Jan 27 11:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427849287763234816 | Jan 27 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: LinuxScreenshots dot org has just been put on sale. People who like to try and take screenshots of distro might want to secure the tradition | Jan 27 12:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427849519460806656 | Jan 27 12:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #KMail Complexity - and a little Patience http://t.co/AKtXsPXq7R #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 27 12:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lxer.com | LXer: KMail Complexity - and a little Patience | Jan 27 12:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_bed2: I got one of those call about an hour and a half ago | Jan 27 12:06 |
| sebsebseb | your Windows computer is gting messages | Jan 27 12:06 |
| sebsebseb | we are rining you up about htat | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | please do this so we can help you with your omputer | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | I had some fun with the guy on the phone :d | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | for a few minutes | Jan 27 12:07 |
| iophk | how long were you able to keep them on the line? | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: oh a long time | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: probably longer if I Wanted | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | I did the call for like sixx minutes | Jan 27 12:07 |
| iophk | Did they figure out you run Gnu/LInux? | Jan 27 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: I even did the like yeah right stuff and started calling him a con man and everything | Jan 27 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | and saying how they trick people into acccess ot the coputer like that to steal passwords etc is illegal | Jan 27 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | and so on | Jan 27 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: he's like your Wndows Pc. I was ike what country you form, he's like Lodon | Jan 27 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | London Microsoft support | Jan 27 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | I was like uh yeah right and Ia m APple support, and he's just carrying on, trying to get me to run some code thing or whatever, wanting to check the computer id code and yeah | Jan 27 12:09 |
| sebsebseb | then eventaully I am like actsally I run something called Linux, do you n know what that is? | Jan 27 12:09 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: eventually he hanged up on me or hwatever | Jan 27 12:09 |
| sebsebseb | I was even like your a con man if I put in.... I Probably won't beable to ring you back since your number will be hidden | Jan 27 12:10 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: thing is there is a number I can call back | Jan 27 12:10 |
| sebsebseb | should I? to see what happens | Jan 27 12:10 |
| iophk | Is it very, very expensive to call that number? | Jan 27 12:10 |
| iophk | It could be. | Jan 27 12:10 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: well yeah might get charged to call that number | Jan 27 12:10 |
| sebsebseb | it did sayon the phone thing | Jan 27 12:10 |
| iophk | 20₤ / minute? | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | not sure if we have such numbers | Jan 27 12:11 |
| iophk | Best not to try then. | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | that are realy really expensive to calll | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah your right | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | it could be some charged number if calling it | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | where they get cash | Jan 27 12:11 |
| iophk | If it were a toll-free number it might be ok. | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | it's some sort number | Jan 27 12:11 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: once there's another call it's gone | Jan 27 12:12 |
| sebsebseb | unless I save the number | Jan 27 12:12 |
| iophk | short stack | Jan 27 12:12 |
| sebsebseb | as in write it down some where | Jan 27 12:12 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: short stack ?? | Jan 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427851402300649472 | Jan 27 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u rebuttal from Bradley Kuhn. #gnu #sflc #fsf #conservancy | Jan 27 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ebb.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jan 27 12:12 |
| iophk | htt://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_(abstract_data_type) | Jan 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | sebsebseb: I know one guy who has a friend who fell for this scam | Jan 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think I got such a call a month ago | Jan 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I can't recsall mcuh | Jan 27 12:13 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I had one last year or whatever | Jan 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I really hung up quickly | Jan 27 12:13 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the one today oh that was a good laugh | Jan 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | glad you likes it | Jan 27 12:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_bed2: i had good fun for a few minutes | Jan 27 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and they foot the bill for the call | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | I think he thought I Would do the thing | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | for ags | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | ages | Jan 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | well done, but there are better ways to avenge | Jan 27 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | brb | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | to avenge? | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | wel about having fun | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | and I know what they are doing | Jan 27 12:14 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: you play a long and then make it clear later that your not all stupid | Jan 27 12:15 |
| sebsebseb | that's what I did :d | Jan 27 12:15 |
| iophk | Some try to keep them on the line longer. | Jan 27 12:15 |
| sebsebseb | yeah he | Jan 27 12:16 |
| iophk | It keeps them from bothering others and have some fun. | Jan 27 12:16 |
| sebsebseb | oh he would have styaed on the line with me I don't know long really | Jan 27 12:16 |
| sebsebseb | if I hadn't said ceratin stuff | Jan 27 12:16 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: and he didn't pick up some of my like oh yeah stuff etc, and what that really emant | Jan 27 12:16 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I guess since he was from India or whatever | Jan 27 12:16 |
| sebsebseb | ok well number gone then, unless same thing | Jan 27 12:17 |
| sebsebseb | got another call just now, but no response | Jan 27 12:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427852387647512576 | Jan 27 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: An #OpenLetter from US Researchers in #Cryptography and Information Security http://t.co/tFGvQKL2UO #nsa harms everyone except oligarchs | Jan 27 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> masssurveillance.info | An Open Letter from US Researchers in Cryptography and Information Security | Jan 27 12:17 |
| iophk | actually queue (FIFO) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queue_%28abstract_data_type%29 | Jan 27 12:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Queue (abstract data type) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gigk0 ] | Jan 27 12:19 |
| iophk | I thought most digital phones hold way more than one number. | Jan 27 12:20 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: I don't know it's the network number I ring | Jan 27 12:29 |
| sebsebseb | maybe this phone can hold more than one though | Jan 27 12:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854233057394688 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854348237156352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427854783752712193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855080264462336 | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Android ends 2013 on a high note http://t.co/vdjo2QPDQ9 #android #linux | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.cnet.com | Android ends 2013 on a high note | Mobile - CNET News | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project http://t.co/ypoZcJn6V7 #lux #camera is back | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.open-electronics.org | Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Open Electronics | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux http://t.co/huhc9Gc7k6 #intel #linux | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hands-on with Knoppix Linux 7.2.0: A well-established and very stable Linux distribution http://t.co/43BvxkBXZk #knoppix #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Hands-on with Knoppix Linux 7.2.0: A well-established and very stable Linux distribution | ZDNet | Jan 27 12:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855427943284736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427855817355038720 | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: U.S. DOJ Files Charges Against Alleged Android App Counterfeiters http://t.co/0qx8OsgGxQ #android #linux | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found ) | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: What's the best thing about being an open source community manager? http://t.co/SkbfTvB8HA #opensource #community | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Advice and wisdom from 14 community managers on CM Appreciation Day | opensource.com | Jan 27 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO | Jan 27 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux http://t.co/3bVs8nzsnD | Jan 27 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigys | Jan 27 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Jan 27 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jNI1EaJOn7 | Jan 27 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigyx | Jan 27 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android ends 2013 on a high note | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0tKzoGoZ2C | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Continues Optimizing Counter-Strike: GO For Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigyz | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome DIY, Open source Lux camera Project | Tux Machines | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Android ends 2013 on a high note | Tux Machines | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cgcdRO1YkY | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigz2 | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits | Tux Machines | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What's the best thing about being an open | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source community manager? | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KTGM8sUuZQ | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gigz3 | Jan 27 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | What's the best thing about being an open source community manager? | Tux Machines | Jan 27 13:03 |
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| iophk | sebsebseb: fossdem! | Jan 27 13:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep | Jan 27 13:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: shuld be meeting two guys from Estonia on Thursday evening to | Jan 27 13:41 |
| sebsebseb | for dnner | Jan 27 13:41 |
| sebsebseb | with the guy from USA | Jan 27 13:41 |
| iophk | cool | Jan 27 13:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: SystemD have some kind of hackfest | Jan 27 13:42 |
| sebsebseb | on Thursday andFriday to | Jan 27 13:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that's probably not really for me | Jan 27 13:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: now I Just need to sort out getting picked up form the air port | Jan 27 13:42 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah | Jan 27 13:42 |
| iophk | train or bus? | Jan 27 13:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: guy from project can't do it, so hpefuly the hotel can pick up like before | Jan 27 13:42 |
| sebsebseb | there may be a train that goes nearish to the hotel | Jan 27 13:43 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jan 27 13:43 |
| sebsebseb | I'd rather just be picked up like before | Jan 27 13:43 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: hotel has the air port pick up optoin on the form that didn't work, and I Had to contact them again about pick up | Jan 27 13:43 |
| sebsebseb | phone was enaged just now | Jan 27 13:43 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: they are a bit bad at relying to email to | Jan 27 13:43 |
| sebsebseb | so just doing things over phone instead this time compelty it seems | Jan 27 13:44 |
| iophk | Are the presentations going to be streamed ? | Jan 27 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | some of them will be sure | Jan 27 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | and then videos up after the event like before | Jan 27 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: so anything in the ain room will probably get stramed and videod | Jan 27 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | when I looked nothing I wanted to go to there as such so that's ok | Jan 27 13:44 |
| iophk | How long do you think it will take for them to post the videos this time? | Jan 27 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: there's so much going on at once | Jan 27 13:44 |
| iophk | Yes, many things at the same time. | Jan 27 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | a week or so after and the first lot of vidoesp robably go up, past ones already on there of course | Jan 27 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep always going to miss omething | Jan 27 13:45 |
| iophk | It makes it hard to choose and then harder to discuss since others saw something different. | Jan 27 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | could get sucked into stands and then miss whatever, or ould go to osme talk and miss hwatever | Jan 27 13:45 |
| iophk | IIRC Bradley Kuhn had an interesting talk planned. | Jan 27 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but talk wise it seems I am only really interested in the legal issues devv room and maybe Mozilla | Jan 27 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | and cross distor when Deb talks there maybe | Jan 27 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yep Bradly KUHN AND Karan Sandler and such will be speaking in legal issues | Jan 27 13:46 |
| sebsebseb | yeah really most of the tlaks I am going to be interested in are from Americans :D | Jan 27 13:46 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: already met Bradly sort of | Jan 27 13:47 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: as in I saw him on thep anel and yeah | Jan 27 13:47 |
| sebsebseb | last year | Jan 27 13:47 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427872837693894656 | Jan 27 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Emacs and #GNU - the lesser-known relationship (one used to create the other, both ways) http://t.co/J0qDq57zeN | Jan 27 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> bytesmedia.co.uk | Bytes Media - Emacs and GNU | Jan 27 13:48 |
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| gde33 | [17:02:48] <schestowitz_bed2> Meh | Jan 27 14:14 |
| gde33 | [17:03:33] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:31] <iophk> I know. The net has been such a desert. Not even one business uses it yet. :-) | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:38] <schestowitz_bed2> Content creators | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:45] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:30] <gde33> I'm trying to look from the perspective of content creators | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:46] <schestowitz_bed2> [09:30] <gde33> if there is no reward they wont create anything | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:03:53] <schestowitz_bed2> Poor content creator... who would farm for food? | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:04:45] <schestowitz_bed2> If anything, the copyright cartel/monoopoly NEEDS neutrality | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:04:52] <schestowitz_bed2> to make it affordable to stream | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:04:58] <schestowitz_bed2> people pay the bill for traddic | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | [17:05:10] <schestowitz_bed2> the problem is, the cartel sometimes owns the cable companies too, or vice versa | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | you think you can force out the art | Jan 27 14:15 |
| iophk | How much did VanGogh get paid? | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | NOTHING | Jan 27 14:15 |
| gde33 | that was good right? | Jan 27 14:16 |
| iophk | Not much of a business model then... | Jan 27 14:16 |
| gde33 | that is your ideal model? | Jan 27 14:16 |
| gde33 | I only hear selling content is a terrible idea, one should get into the bitcoin ponzi in stead | Jan 27 14:16 |
| gde33 | very homogenious standards | Jan 27 14:17 |
| gde33 | I wish this channel cost 100 euro per month | Jan 27 14:18 |
| iophk | pay Roy then. | Jan 27 14:19 |
| gde33 | it would add some urgency to the debate, I would be helped by that | Jan 27 14:19 |
| gde33 | I've tried constructive discussion with people on the web for many years, if I look at the results I have to say far I've been wasting my time and effort. | Jan 27 14:20 |
| iophk | This afternoon you were hinting at a tax on net traffic to subsidize something or other. | Jan 27 14:21 |
| gde33 | yeah, then you asked for evidence, then I explained how it keeps out uninterested people, l gave an example, then you argued a sucker is born every minute as to prove the topic was unintersting? something like that? | Jan 27 14:22 |
| iophk | paying for the sake of paying? | Jan 27 14:22 |
| gde33 | exactly | Jan 27 14:22 |
| iophk | No return for that payment is for suckers. | Jan 27 14:22 |
| gde33 | no no, the payment is to keep out that opinion | Jan 27 14:23 |
| gde33 | to make sure you are not there to elaborate on your skepticism | Jan 27 14:23 |
| gde33 | not that it isn't valid | Jan 27 14:23 |
| iophk | Start an alternate internet for people with more dollars than sense | Jan 27 14:23 |
| gde33 | that is what i'm wondering about basically, how that would look | Jan 27 14:23 |
| iophk | There's a lot of dark fiber out there. | Jan 27 14:23 |
| gde33 | we can only guess I think? | Jan 27 14:24 |
| iophk | Not if you have a business plan and enough money to back it up. | Jan 27 14:24 |
| gde33 | you also need to be motivated to go do something like that | Jan 27 14:24 |
| gde33 | in what way do I benefit from paying for googles bandwith? | Jan 27 14:25 |
| gde33 | Makes it sound as if the price they charge has something to do with the cost of what they are selling | Jan 27 14:26 |
| gde33 | it doesnt | Jan 27 14:26 |
| gde33 | they are just looking to max out proffit | Jan 27 14:26 |
| iophk | Google is paying for Google's bandwidth currently. | Jan 27 14:26 |
| iophk | They pay big money for that. | Jan 27 14:26 |
| gde33 | true | Jan 27 14:26 |
| gde33 | it is that atractive to own the infrastucture your business runs on | Jan 27 14:27 |
| gde33 | I do completely agree with the ideology of customer own infrasturcture | Jan 27 14:27 |
| gde33 | with most people it is just pearls for pigs | Jan 27 14:27 |
| iophk | You have to continue with common carriage or it just will choke. | Jan 27 14:28 |
| gde33 | sorry not sure what you are trying to explain here | Jan 27 14:28 |
| iophk | The Internet is a network of networks. If they don't allow the traffic of others, then nothing functions except for a crappy little zone. That's what has already been tried and already failed. | Jan 27 14:29 |
| gde33 | that a non neutral internet would drown out the free things? | Jan 27 14:29 |
| iophk | And the paid things | Jan 27 14:29 |
| iophk | espeially the paid things | Jan 27 14:29 |
| gde33 | depends how you structure the payments | Jan 27 14:29 |
| iophk | besides there aren't any free things on the net | Jan 27 14:29 |
| iophk | they are all paid for | Jan 27 14:29 |
| iophk | alreaady | Jan 27 14:29 |
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| gde33 | let me put it like this: In what way do I benefit from net neturality as a content creator? | Jan 27 14:31 |
| MinceR | you get to compete at all | Jan 27 14:31 |
| MinceR | users can access your content without having their connection to it crippled | Jan 27 14:31 |
| MinceR | you get a chance | Jan 27 14:32 |
| gde33 | oh but they do, I can only afford very minimalistic hosting | Jan 27 14:32 |
| MinceR | without net neutrality, you don't even get a chance | Jan 27 14:32 |
| gde33 | how would that work? | Jan 27 14:32 |
| MinceR | how would what work? | Jan 27 14:32 |
| gde33 | not getting a chance | Jan 27 14:32 |
| MinceR | let's say you host some videos on your site | Jan 27 14:33 |
| MinceR | the user's isp has a deal with google, so they offer youtube; and they offer their own site | Jan 27 14:33 |
| gde33 | cant afford the bandwith but ok, lets assume I could | Jan 27 14:33 |
| MinceR | you don't have a deal with them because you're a competitor and you're small fry | Jan 27 14:33 |
| gde33 | yes | Jan 27 14:33 |
| MinceR | if they're feeling gracious the user isn't entirely banned from your site | Jan 27 14:33 |
| MinceR | they just don't get to stream the video at all | Jan 27 14:33 |
| MinceR | it's like they're using a 9600 bps modem to access the site | Jan 27 14:34 |
| gde33 | the user paid for internet, he can have access to anything he wants | Jan 27 14:34 |
| MinceR | yes, if they have net neutrality | Jan 27 14:34 |
| MinceR | if they don't, then the user can have access to anything the ISP wants him to | Jan 27 14:34 |
| MinceR | however the ISP wants him to | Jan 27 14:34 |
| iophk | at whatever lowered speeds the ISP wants him to... | Jan 27 14:34 |
| gde33 | start your own isp? | Jan 27 14:35 |
| iophk | not enough because the other ISPs you connect to can stil choke you | Jan 27 14:35 |
| MinceR | where will you get the finds for that? | Jan 27 14:35 |
| gde33 | I think we will have exactly the same thing only in a different format | Jan 27 14:35 |
| MinceR | and where will you provide service? | Jan 27 14:35 |
| MinceR | s/find/fund/ | Jan 27 14:35 |
| MinceR | no, we don't even have nearly the same thing | Jan 27 14:35 |
| MinceR | of course, things get even worse if you used some p2p protocol to help with hosting | Jan 27 14:36 |
| gde33 | you are saying that net neutrality will give the ISP the right to block websites? | Jan 27 14:36 |
| MinceR | normally, that does work (GNU/Linux iso distribution via BitTorrent, for example) | Jan 27 14:36 |
| gde33 | is that really the same topic? | Jan 27 14:36 |
| MinceR | yes, among other things | Jan 27 14:36 |
| MinceR | part of what a common carrier is about is that they aren't allowed to decide what to block and what to allow through | Jan 27 14:36 |
| MinceR | but if you don't have net neutrality, the ISPs will just block p2p protocols entirely | Jan 27 14:37 |
| gde33 | so the blocked content is just not available | Jan 27 14:37 |
| gde33 | you dont get access to all the books for example | Jan 27 14:37 |
| MinceR | it can be blocked entirely | Jan 27 14:37 |
| gde33 | you didn't pay for that > no access | Jan 27 14:37 |
| MinceR | or it can be allowed but slowed down arbitrarily | Jan 27 14:37 |
| gde33 | Are we not creating a giant straw man for the ISP? Is there really no way to do this fairly? | Jan 27 14:38 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 27 14:38 |
| MinceR | the way to do this fairly is called net neutrality | Jan 27 14:38 |
| gde33 | as in no blocking of content, just additional packages? | Jan 27 14:38 |
| MinceR | anything else is by definition unfair | Jan 27 14:38 |
| MinceR | they won't phrase it as "blocking of content" | Jan 27 14:39 |
| MinceR | for a normal internet user, all of the internet is the default | Jan 27 14:39 |
| MinceR | for a non-neutral greedy ISP, nothing is the default, everything is "additional" | Jan 27 14:39 |
| gde33 | I will explain it again, this time I will just convince you: The thing is, proof of work equals value. | Jan 27 14:40 |
| gde33 | you can create cryptographic hashees and sell those in stead of selling content | Jan 27 14:40 |
| iophk | bitcoin | Jan 27 14:40 |
| gde33 | but it will always be a pretend game | Jan 27 14:40 |
| gde33 | pretend value | Jan 27 14:40 |
| gde33 | so you are just pretending everything is free / worthless | Jan 27 14:41 |
| iophk | you're missing the point that it's all paid for already | Jan 27 14:41 |
| iophk | no need to pay twice | Jan 27 14:41 |
| gde33 | not enough | Jan 27 14:41 |
| iophk | pay Roy then | Jan 27 14:42 |
| gde33 | my point was payments for the sake of payments remember? | Jan 27 14:42 |
| iophk | and a solution was offered. Fund your alternative to the Internet. | Jan 27 14:42 |
| gde33 | if existing plots are all that terrible at granting things their value, what else can we think of? | Jan 27 14:42 |
| gde33 | but wasnt that what netneutrality aimed to prevent? | Jan 27 14:43 |
| gde33 | everyone will be against me just for trying to attribute value lol | Jan 27 14:44 |
| iophk | Value to what? | Jan 27 14:44 |
| gde33 | to everything | Jan 27 14:44 |
| iophk | Use Flattr then | Jan 27 14:44 |
| gde33 | that will only work for 0% of my traffic | Jan 27 14:45 |
| iophk | Maybe it is already being compensated in proportion to its perceived value... | Jan 27 14:46 |
| gde33 | not an acceptable hypothesis | Jan 27 14:46 |
| gde33 | you can go project that on your own creations | Jan 27 14:47 |
| iophk | the data seems to support it | Jan 27 14:47 |
| gde33 | not at all actually | Jan 27 14:47 |
| gde33 | I just hatted the attention | Jan 27 14:47 |
| gde33 | I dont like having attention from more people than I can answer to | Jan 27 14:47 |
| iophk | How did your test of Flattr go? What was wrong? | Jan 27 14:48 |
| gde33 | I'm looking at it right now for the first time | Jan 27 14:48 |
| gde33 | http://funding.openinitiative.com/ | Jan 27 14:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | funding.openinitiative.com | Financez votre logiciel - Open Funding | Jan 27 14:48 |
| gde33 | is also fun | Jan 27 14:48 |
| gde33 | but I'm not seeing the revolution | Jan 27 14:48 |
| gde33 | the hard worked content items are not worth anywhere as much as the cryptographic hash | Jan 27 14:49 |
| gde33 | this while you can just easly create a hash | Jan 27 14:49 |
| gde33 | much easier than producing a valuable work | Jan 27 14:49 |
| gde33 | I can also do a ponzi scheme with site credits | Jan 27 14:50 |
| iophk | There is also crowdsourcing. | Jan 27 14:50 |
| gde33 | that seems to work | Jan 27 14:50 |
| iophk | But then deliverables are required. | Jan 27 14:50 |
| gde33 | facinating development | Jan 27 14:50 |
| gde33 | I dont even know howmany kickstarter victims there are | Jan 27 14:50 |
| gde33 | there is at least one who lost his shipment | Jan 27 14:51 |
| gde33 | in most of the cases it seems to work nicely | Jan 27 14:51 |
| gde33 | still it seems more a measure of peoples kindness than of the collective vision for the future? | Jan 27 14:52 |
| gde33 | bit of personal greed lol | Jan 27 14:52 |
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| gde33 | I've always had ideas for making a better world, people without money say they are stupid ideas, people with money say I'm wasting my time, it isnt worth the effort to try, the goal should be to make money not to do good things. | Jan 27 14:58 |
| gde33 | I've been trying to convince the poor people ever since, it was such an epic failure that I'm starting to agree with the milionaires. | Jan 27 14:59 |
| gde33 | IF you want to make the world a better place: start by swindeling your way to the top | Jan 27 15:00 |
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| MinceR | 204019 < gde33> I will explain it again, this time I will just convince you: The thing is, proof of work equals value. | Jan 27 15:06 |
| MinceR | it doesn't. | Jan 27 15:06 |
| MinceR | value is what the market values. work may well be wasted. | Jan 27 15:06 |
| MinceR | as for network access, it's currently paid for by the users already | Jan 27 15:07 |
| MinceR | there's no need to pretend that it's provided gratis. | Jan 27 15:07 |
| gde33 | proof of work | Jan 27 15:08 |
| MinceR | same thing. | Jan 27 15:08 |
| iophk | effort != value | Jan 27 15:08 |
| MinceR | (but it's a very communist thing to insist that any busywork is valuable and that everyone must be robbed to compensate the communist for worthless work) | Jan 27 15:08 |
| gde33 | you need to feel useful to | Jan 27 15:09 |
| gde33 | in that way there is value, one can even play football | Jan 27 15:09 |
| MinceR | football had better be useful by itself, then | Jan 27 15:11 |
| gde33 | who made you the decider? | Jan 27 15:11 |
| MinceR | of what? | Jan 27 15:11 |
| gde33 | that came out wrong lol | Jan 27 15:12 |
| gde33 | who decided what has value and what not? | Jan 27 15:12 |
| MinceR | the market did | Jan 27 15:12 |
| MinceR | the people who had money they could and were willing to spend on goods. | Jan 27 15:12 |
| gde33 | but on the perceved value not what things cost to make | Jan 27 15:12 |
| MinceR | with the loss of net neutrality, the market would lose control | Jan 27 15:12 |
| MinceR | and it would be placed in the hand of the corporate oligarchs. | Jan 27 15:13 |
| MinceR | whoever owns your internet connection would decide whose news you read. | Jan 27 15:13 |
| gde33 | why wouldnt that happen anyway? | Jan 27 15:13 |
| MinceR | it certainly looks like it's happening | Jan 27 15:14 |
| gde33 | I can make a blog right now, write blog posts, but no one is going to read them | Jan 27 15:14 |
| MinceR | even the w3c has turned against its old idea of an open web | Jan 27 15:14 |
| gde33 | people cant even find them without the oligarchs | Jan 27 15:14 |
| MinceR | yes they can | Jan 27 15:14 |
| MinceR | for example, i could ask you the address right now, if i wanted to know | Jan 27 15:14 |
| MinceR | and i could read it all without my ISP's express permission. | Jan 27 15:15 |
| gde33 | then if todays posting is not precicely what you are looking for you never look at it again | Jan 27 15:15 |
| gde33 | easy come easy go | Jan 27 15:15 |
| MinceR | and you would deprive me of that choice? | Jan 27 15:15 |
| MinceR | do you think your blog is so important that people should be forced to read it? | Jan 27 15:16 |
| gde33 | I would deprive you from such harsh judgement | Jan 27 15:16 |
| gde33 | The blog could be so important everyone should read it. | Jan 27 15:16 |
| gde33 | the chance is there | Jan 27 15:17 |
| gde33 | to become a good writer you have to write the whole time | Jan 27 15:17 |
| gde33 | it might be crap some days | Jan 27 15:17 |
| gde33 | you shouldnt be put on trial over each blog post | Jan 27 15:17 |
| gde33 | overal performance | Jan 27 15:18 |
| MinceR | and you won't be | Jan 27 15:18 |
| MinceR | if what you do is valued, the word will spread | Jan 27 15:18 |
| MinceR | and there are search engines too, including at least one p2p one | Jan 27 15:18 |
| gde33 | nah the word wont spread, you have to work your ass off | Jan 27 15:19 |
| gde33 | asking random strangers for a few bucks would go much faster | Jan 27 15:20 |
| MinceR | yes, you have to work your ass off | Jan 27 15:20 |
| MinceR | and if you do it right, the word will spread | Jan 27 15:20 |
| gde33 | then what? big bandwith bills? | Jan 27 15:20 |
| iophk | Or issue an IPO | Jan 27 15:20 |
| gde33 | have LIES advertised all over the website? | Jan 27 15:20 |
| MinceR | you can choose your advertisers | Jan 27 15:20 |
| MinceR | they don't have to be lies | Jan 27 15:21 |
| MinceR | (i know, the truth isn't very popular nowadays) | Jan 27 15:21 |
| gde33 | something other than google? | Jan 27 15:21 |
| gde33 | hah yes | Jan 27 15:21 |
| MinceR | possibly | Jan 27 15:21 |
| gde33 | that wont work as well | Jan 27 15:22 |
| gde33 | you need 10 times as much traffic | Jan 27 15:22 |
| gde33 | if not 100 | Jan 27 15:22 |
| gde33 | you have to go full retard, "become a militard, join the fight in iraq today" | Jan 27 15:23 |
| gde33 | then you make money | Jan 27 15:23 |
| MinceR | you'll need a business model | Jan 27 15:23 |
| MinceR | hopefully a better one than "herp derp let's gang up on the users and rob them blind" | Jan 27 15:23 |
| gde33 | not my kind of plan | Jan 27 15:23 |
| MinceR | your earlier comments suggest otherwise. | Jan 27 15:24 |
| gde33 | usually my plans are to complex to even consider, I do have some admiration for the simplistic there | Jan 27 15:24 |
| gde33 | if it has you explain why people need something you dont have to bother with the idea | Jan 27 15:25 |
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| gde33 | If people can be robbed they must have had something. | Jan 27 15:27 |
| gde33 | most people in this world dont have anything. | Jan 27 15:27 |
| MinceR | most people in this world don't have access to the internet | Jan 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | most people in this would would not be able to read your blog even if they wanted to. | Jan 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | s/would/world/ | Jan 27 15:28 |
| gde33 | I tried to do it in print one time with a few people, it was surpricingly expensive to do small editions | Jan 27 15:29 |
| gde33 | why would someone with 1 hour of internet per week not be able to write a valuable text? | Jan 27 15:30 |
| gde33 | why do we have all this audience building he has to get into? | Jan 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | because quite a lot of people want to be heard | Jan 27 15:31 |
| gde33 | that doesnt make people less valuable | Jan 27 15:31 |
| MinceR | and listeners have limited time | Jan 27 15:31 |
| MinceR | are you sure of that? :> | Jan 27 15:31 |
| gde33 | oh yes, I believe most of the problelms we can produce are based on not valuing people. | Jan 27 15:32 |
| gde33 | then moan when others dont value you either | Jan 27 15:32 |
| MinceR | if you do not value people, is that just another way of saying that people have zero value? :> | Jan 27 15:32 |
| gde33 | when you abuse people you get to be abused basically | Jan 27 15:32 |
| MinceR | i'd be fine with just not bothering each other | Jan 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | but for most people that's a concept too advanced | Jan 27 15:33 |
| gde33 | MinceR: just that you value them less I suppose | Jan 27 15:33 |
| gde33 | I believe in bothering people a little bit | Jan 27 15:33 |
| gde33 | a friend of mine plays computer games all day, I call him an enabler. lol | Jan 27 15:34 |
| gde33 | just to bother him | Jan 27 15:34 |
| gde33 | I think people automatically live up to the expectation when you assert their value | Jan 27 15:35 |
| MinceR | they usually don't | Jan 27 15:35 |
| gde33 | have to do it the whole life | Jan 27 15:35 |
| MinceR | i learned that the hard way | Jan 27 15:35 |
| gde33 | sure, but we should die trying to convince them :) | Jan 27 15:36 |
| MinceR | no thanks | Jan 27 15:36 |
| gde33 | that is one of your valuable qualities | Jan 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | don't worry, chances are i'll die eventually | Jan 27 15:37 |
| gde33 | your legacy will live on :D | Jan 27 15:37 |
| gde33 | people wont remember it was you when they repeat your words | Jan 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | or it won't | Jan 27 15:37 |
| gde33 | everything we know was made up by some one | Jan 27 15:38 |
| gde33 | each letter, each word, some of the sentences | Jan 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | maybe humanity will wipe out itself along with all its records | Jan 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | and there's nobody out there who could catch and decode our EM emissions | Jan 27 15:38 |
| gde33 | of course it will | Jan 27 15:38 |
| gde33 | the big question is if we will escape the solar system before that happens | Jan 27 15:38 |
| gde33 | if we will live as short as 1 sun | Jan 27 15:39 |
| gde33 | heh | Jan 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | or shorter | Jan 27 15:39 |
| gde33 | !!! | Jan 27 15:39 |
| gde33 | but we could very well potentially infest the whole gallaxy | Jan 27 15:39 |
| gde33 | and beyond | Jan 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | we have technology that could wipe out higher-order life on this planet in the hands of religious extremists who believe that if everyone does, that's acceptable | Jan 27 15:39 |
| gde33 | grow green fur on all those balls | Jan 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | and maybe that's the best outcome | Jan 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | s/one does/one dies/ | Jan 27 15:40 |
| gde33 | we get to play our part | Jan 27 15:40 |
| gde33 | maybe we are the ones without sins? | Jan 27 15:40 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | that depends on how you define 'sin' | Jan 27 15:40 |
| gde33 | I define it as who should throw the first stone | Jan 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | certain religious zealots who believe themselves to be experts on ethics believe that you're responsible for the sins of your ancestors | Jan 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | which shows how much they really know about ethics | Jan 27 15:41 |
| gde33 | at least we get to suffer their sins | Jan 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | yay | Jan 27 15:41 |
| gde33 | but also enjoy their accomplishments | Jan 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | i was kinda hoping for more than just suffering | Jan 27 15:41 |
| gde33 | I had a dream a few days ago where I finally calculated why religion is nothing but an ego trip | Jan 27 15:42 |
| gde33 | the idea one would be punished in the after life for what one does | Jan 27 15:42 |
| MinceR | it's worse than an ego trip | Jan 27 15:42 |
| gde33 | when I do something I dont care about that | Jan 27 15:42 |
| gde33 | I do things because they need doing, burning forever might just be worth it | Jan 27 15:42 |
| MinceR | it's a mental infection that poisons everything | Jan 27 15:42 |
| gde33 | we should have put George's head on a pike way back in 2001, then suffer the eternal punishment. | Jan 27 15:43 |
| gde33 | it would be totally worth it | Jan 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | dubya? | Jan 27 15:43 |
| gde33 | yeah | Jan 27 15:43 |
| gde33 | burn him at the stake | Jan 27 15:43 |
| gde33 | god can complant all he likes? | Jan 27 15:43 |
| gde33 | he is going to punish me? | Jan 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | "God" does not exist. | Jan 27 15:44 |
| gde33 | that is suppose to stop me from doing the right thing? | Jan 27 15:44 |
| MinceR | its definition is inconsistent with itself, therefore false | Jan 27 15:44 |
| gde33 | exactly | Jan 27 15:44 |
| gde33 | but my argument is that it is all rooted on egoistic behavior | Jan 27 15:44 |
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| gde33 | I use to have some sympathy for the mood they create while doing things | Jan 27 15:45 |
| gde33 | the collective feeling of trying to do the right thing | Jan 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | and then you realized that they undermine the ability to reason? :> | Jan 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | also any possibility of tolerance | Jan 27 15:46 |
| gde33 | that isn't an argument you can use to convince that person | Jan 27 15:46 |
| gde33 | if you can show him he is all doing this for himself | Jan 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | there is no argument you can use to convince a religious zealot. | Jan 27 15:46 |
| gde33 | then that changes the whole story | Jan 27 15:46 |
| gde33 | I think there is a good compromise available. | Jan 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | one of the main traits the memetic evolution of religion selects for is the immunization against removal and against competitors | Jan 27 15:46 |
| gde33 | we take all the good stuff offered by a relgion, then we put that in a new wrapper and ask non religious people to help with these good things | Jan 27 15:47 |
| gde33 | then we would be willing to help them | Jan 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | if it isn't based on reason, then it doesn't have a good foundation | Jan 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | and if it is, then it isn't religion. | Jan 27 15:47 |
| gde33 | some of it can be based on reason | Jan 27 15:48 |
| gde33 | if we the people start a non proffit to make a better world you better not get the idea to build a church from the donations | Jan 27 15:48 |
| gde33 | we might need to hire a few people to do the administration and we might need a building | Jan 27 15:49 |
| gde33 | if the church has a ready made building available for this it seems usable | Jan 27 15:49 |
| gde33 | hell, they would be doing the lords work? | Jan 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | what would that be? | Jan 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | exterminating lots of people for not being the chosen ones? :> | Jan 27 15:51 |
| gde33 | I think an atheist can be convinced to help the church if they would be doing something actually useful. | Jan 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | establishing the rules under which humans are to be trafficked in? :> | Jan 27 15:51 |
| gde33 | those things could all be repackaged | Jan 27 15:52 |
| gde33 | call it a new level of milder more moderated religion | Jan 27 15:52 |
| gde33 | they have to understand that doing good involves actual work | Jan 27 15:52 |
| MinceR | there are such religions | Jan 27 15:52 |
| MinceR | not abrahamic ones, though :> | Jan 27 15:52 |
| gde33 | if you interupt that work to read bibles you are not helping anyone | Jan 27 15:53 |
| gde33 | More general: we create organisations that may turn into giant monsters, we have to find a training method for the monster to learn new tricks. | Jan 27 15:55 |
| gde33 | it all seems far to static | Jan 27 15:56 |
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| gde33 | big tech companies buying small businesses is a way of learning something for such creature. | Jan 27 15:56 |
| gde33 | but how are we going to teach BP cold fusion? | Jan 27 15:57 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 15:57 |
| MinceR | or maybe we should just slay the monsters | Jan 27 15:57 |
| gde33 | if anything it is an argument pro dictatorship | Jan 27 15:57 |
| gde33 | nothing is like being judged by a single person | Jan 27 15:57 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 27 15:57 |
| MinceR | nothing is as bad, yes | Jan 27 15:58 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that's pro dictatorship | Jan 27 15:58 |
| gde33 | no no, if you add more people it gets worse | Jan 27 15:58 |
| gde33 | eventually we dont agree about anything | Jan 27 15:58 |
| MinceR | which slows down the destruction | Jan 27 15:58 |
| MinceR | so, a good thing | Jan 27 15:58 |
| gde33 | the thing becomes a life form in it self | Jan 27 15:58 |
| MinceR | and of course if people didn't suck quite so much, it could be much better | Jan 27 15:58 |
| gde33 | the components are not in charge of it | Jan 27 15:58 |
| gde33 | you will get a ticket type 44 as described in rule 1034 | Jan 27 15:59 |
| gde33 | I'm just the officer writing the ticket | Jan 27 15:59 |
| gde33 | I'm sorry ok? lol | Jan 27 15:59 |
| MinceR | "i was only obeying orders" | Jan 27 16:00 |
| MinceR | that's not a good excuse | Jan 27 16:00 |
| gde33 | but it works like thta | Jan 27 16:00 |
| MinceR | well yes, humanity works in a horrible way | Jan 27 16:00 |
| gde33 | you only need 2% to think like that to be able controll everyone else | Jan 27 16:00 |
| gde33 | it isn't something likely to get fixed | Jan 27 16:01 |
| MinceR | it will probably get fixed in the most painful method available | Jan 27 16:01 |
| gde33 | we could start with brainscans for politicians | Jan 27 16:01 |
| MinceR | overpopulation, wars, famine, plagues, extinction | Jan 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/4279080327991951361 | Jan 27 16:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No message found | Jan 27 16:01 |
| MinceR | maybe a bit of nuclear winter | Jan 27 16:01 |
| gde33 | nothing we cant handle | Jan 27 16:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: Sorry, that page doesn’t exist! | Jan 27 16:02 |
| MinceR | not sure what there is to handle about painful self-extermination | Jan 27 16:02 |
| gde33 | brainscans for politicians and a diploma before you get to vote | Jan 27 16:02 |
| MinceR | that won't help | Jan 27 16:03 |
| gde33 | I had some fun discussions with people about those 2 | Jan 27 16:03 |
| gde33 | why wont it help? | Jan 27 16:03 |
| MinceR | it merely installs a centralized authority that decides who gets to run for office and who gets to vote | Jan 27 16:03 |
| MinceR | sure, they'll claim it's for objective reasons | Jan 27 16:03 |
| MinceR | but it won't be | Jan 27 16:03 |
| gde33 | not if it cant contain the evil | Jan 27 16:03 |
| gde33 | if the evil cant manifest it cant run the place | Jan 27 16:03 |
| MinceR | it will | Jan 27 16:03 |
| MinceR | it's everywhere | Jan 27 16:03 |
| gde33 | we know that empathic people feel the pain of others | Jan 27 16:04 |
| MinceR | and people are trying hard to make it worse | Jan 27 16:04 |
| gde33 | I wouldnt mind making that a requirement for politicians | Jan 27 16:04 |
| MinceR | how would you enforce it? | Jan 27 16:04 |
| gde33 | just eliminate the psychopaths | Jan 27 16:04 |
| MinceR | how would you do that? | Jan 27 16:04 |
| gde33 | with brainscans and other tests | Jan 27 16:04 |
| MinceR | psychopathy is probably the most difficult kind of mental disorder to diagnose objectively | Jan 27 16:05 |
| gde33 | we dont need objectivity | Jan 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | part of it is that the psychopath tries to hide their own disorder | Jan 27 16:05 |
| gde33 | we need certainty | Jan 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | we do need objectivity | Jan 27 16:05 |
| gde33 | empathic people get seizurs when you show them choped up bodies on a monitor | Jan 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | without objectivity, you get people deciding who gets what | Jan 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | and corruption | Jan 27 16:05 |
| gde33 | if you can just sit there without any emotion you are not the man for the job | Jan 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | same system as before, maybe with a few more levels | Jan 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | i doubt that everyone who's desensitized to images of mutilated bodies is a psychopath | Jan 27 16:06 |
| gde33 | if you have an amount of people some will test obviously empathic, some will test obviously psychopatic and some will test average. | Jan 27 16:06 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it wasn't on any of the checklists i've seen | Jan 27 16:07 |
| gde33 | I dont think it is a sexy idea to put the clear psychopath in power | Jan 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure Cleckley didn't mention it in Mask of Sanity :> | Jan 27 16:07 |
| gde33 | he doesn't have what it takes | Jan 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | he'll speak to the people and make them believe that he does have what it takes | Jan 27 16:07 |
| gde33 | We could argue about average people but the cases where it is all to obvious should be eliminated. | Jan 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | also, tests can be corrupted | Jan 27 16:07 |
| gde33 | these are people who dont have activity in that part of their brain | Jan 27 16:07 |
| gde33 | you are setting up shop for wars | Jan 27 16:08 |
| MinceR | if the people doing the test aren't willing to lie about the results, the people in power will replace them | Jan 27 16:08 |
| gde33 | you can certainly have a few cases where it isn't easy to get a good rating | Jan 27 16:08 |
| gde33 | just publish the data? | Jan 27 16:08 |
| MinceR | also, i'm pretty sure a psychopath could fake discomfort | Jan 27 16:08 |
| gde33 | if you want to be a public figure, wouldnt you want to know this about yourself? | Jan 27 16:09 |
| gde33 | to what extend you are faking empathy? | Jan 27 16:09 |
| MinceR | they could tamper the data before publishing it | Jan 27 16:09 |
| gde33 | it wont make you less of a person | Jan 27 16:09 |
| gde33 | do you think a truly empathic person could just start a war for proffit? | Jan 27 16:10 |
| gde33 | personally, if you come to my desk to suggest such a thing I might just have to end you | Jan 27 16:10 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | no, i think a psychopath could easily fake being empathic | Jan 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | for your test | Jan 27 16:10 |
| gde33 | he cant | Jan 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | then they get into power and do whatever they wanted to do all along | Jan 27 16:10 |
| gde33 | the biological effect is to strong | Jan 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | while faking whatever emotions they need | Jan 27 16:10 |
| gde33 | people feel as if it is their finger being cut when looking at it | Jan 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | read Mask of Sanity :> | Jan 27 16:11 |
| gde33 | there is no evidence such tests can be faked but still it would add a layer of security | Jan 27 16:11 |
| MinceR | no, it wouldn't | Jan 27 16:11 |
| MinceR | it would merely add more hooks for corruption | Jan 27 16:11 |
| MinceR | and more chances to attack people the oligarchy doesn't want in power | Jan 27 16:11 |
| gde33 | dont you understand that some people have no feeling for others? | Jan 27 16:12 |
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| MinceR | i do | Jan 27 16:12 |
| MinceR | but it won't be easy to tell if they do or not | Jan 27 16:12 |
| gde33 | there are cases where we can establish this with great certainty | Jan 27 16:12 |
| MinceR | from the outside | Jan 27 16:12 |
| gde33 | or do you doubt there are such cases? | Jan 27 16:12 |
| MinceR | also, by the very nature of such testing there would be a small number of people making a decision | Jan 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | which would be easily subverted | Jan 27 16:13 |
| gde33 | the information could just be presented to the voter | Jan 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | the voter is not a trained psychiatrist | Jan 27 16:13 |
| gde33 | you are showing empathy to people who dont know what it means | Jan 27 16:13 |
| gde33 | why would you bother with that? | Jan 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | and any discrepancy could be explained as a different interpretation of the data | Jan 27 16:13 |
| gde33 | do you think they will aperciate it? | Jan 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | politicians already do that | Jan 27 16:14 |
| gde33 | they will think of it as your weakness | Jan 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | they'll present the data and their decision | Jan 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | and claim that the decision is based on the data | Jan 27 16:14 |
| gde33 | sure | Jan 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | and another expert will easily determined that the decision is bogus | Jan 27 16:14 |
| gde33 | you can have the tests done independently | Jan 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | while the ones on the politician's side will agree with it, no matter what | Jan 27 16:15 |
| gde33 | the other expert deserves a fair hearing | Jan 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | so, how many tests will decide if someone gets to run for office or not? | Jan 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | and how? | Jan 27 16:15 |
| gde33 | I'm still talking about the extreme cases where people have pretty much reverted to using nothing but their lizard brain | Jan 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | also, m$'s example should show that "independent" is easily thrown around | Jan 27 16:15 |
| gde33 | the john mcain kind of politician | Jan 27 16:15 |
| gde33 | where non of the brain works | Jan 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | that's the sort of people a large percentage of the voters want | Jan 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | most of the people are idiots | Jan 27 16:16 |
| gde33 | he just started singing bomb iraq bomb bomb iraq? | Jan 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | and i see no way of fixing that | Jan 27 16:16 |
| gde33 | he thought he was being funny | Jan 27 16:16 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aZPnwXV_700b_v1.jpg | Jan 27 16:16 |
| gde33 | that brings me to argument 2 | Jan 27 16:17 |
| gde33 | the voter diploma | Jan 27 16:17 |
| gde33 | :D | Jan 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | same problem | Jan 27 16:17 |
| gde33 | what do you mean? | Jan 27 16:17 |
| gde33 | you want to not know anything then decide stuff for me? | Jan 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | whoever hands out the diploma decides who gets to vote | Jan 27 16:17 |
| gde33 | gtfo? | Jan 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | and so they'll be corrupted to decide the corruptor's voters are eligible, others aren't | Jan 27 16:17 |
| gde33 | you just say that because you failed for the test | Jan 27 16:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what the corruptor will say | Jan 27 16:18 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jan 27 16:18 |
| MinceR | our commies before 1990 prohibited opposition parties from participating in the election by claiming that they were all "fascists" | Jan 27 16:19 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Jan 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | if you wanted democracy, you were a "fascist" | Jan 27 16:19 |
| gde33 | a very efficent system right there | Jan 27 16:20 |
| gde33 | we are going to do something like that to you | Jan 27 16:20 |
| gde33 | not just make you unelectable based on science data that says ur a nazi | Jan 27 16:20 |
| gde33 | but also not give you the diploma for not knowing anything at all about our great nation | Jan 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, "science" "data" | Jan 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | whoever writes the test decides what the right answers are | Jan 27 16:21 |
| gde33 | but hey, at least I've addressed earlier arguments of my content not being original enough. | Jan 27 16:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 16:22 |
| gde33 | I will just have to make this case in future arguments | Jan 27 16:22 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 27 16:22 |
| MinceR | http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-the-americans-will-always-do-the-right-thing-after-they-ve-exhausted-all-the-alternatives-winston-churchill-326251.jpg | Jan 27 16:22 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/ep-machine.gif | Jan 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | :D | Jan 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | the execution is somewhat lacking | Jan 27 16:25 |
| gde33 | I was just distracted by the thoughts that gifs are really nice, not a lot of work to make for how funny they can be. | Jan 27 16:26 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/php-ani.gif | Jan 27 16:26 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/theorafish.gif | Jan 27 16:28 |
| gde33 | http://img.go-here.nl/m$-but-fly.png | Jan 27 16:29 |
| gde33 | MinceR: but to get back to the combi, between wanting psychopaths and wanting uneducated people in government you've pretty much ruined everything. | Jan 27 16:32 |
| gde33 | there is no hope now | Jan 27 16:32 |
| MinceR | apparently you've failed at reading comprehension | Jan 27 16:32 |
| gde33 | it is either nazi's or nazi's | Jan 27 16:32 |
| MinceR | indeed there is no hope | Jan 27 16:32 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Jan 27 16:32 |
| MinceR | whatever system you'll invent to restrict who can run for office or can vote, can and will be corrupted. | Jan 27 16:33 |
| MinceR | just like whatever system people coming up with organizing government can and will be corrupted | Jan 27 16:33 |
| gde33 | http://www.streetartutopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4602805654_db8b6569fb_b.jpeg | Jan 27 16:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 27 16:33 |
| MinceR | what if my dreams are nightmares? | Jan 27 16:33 |
| gde33 | we dont care what they are | Jan 27 16:34 |
| gde33 | you dont have dreams as far as the rest of us is concerned | Jan 27 16:34 |
| gde33 | we have nothing to worry about | Jan 27 16:34 |
| MinceR | indeed, worrying won't help either | Jan 27 16:36 |
| gde33 | I say first we get rid of government psycho's, then remove the people would cant be bothered to know anything from voting. | Jan 27 16:36 |
| gde33 | then at least our downfall will be well organised | Jan 27 16:37 |
| gde33 | then we increase the complexity of the voting process | Jan 27 16:38 |
| MinceR | and how would you do that? | Jan 27 16:38 |
| gde33 | excluding even more people | Jan 27 16:38 |
| MinceR | and how will increased complexity work? | Jan 27 16:38 |
| gde33 | voting more often on actual topics | Jan 27 16:38 |
| gde33 | involvement in decision making | Jan 27 16:39 |
| MinceR | most people can't be bothered | Jan 27 16:39 |
| MinceR | they already vote randomly | Jan 27 16:39 |
| gde33 | we can compensate them for not participating | Jan 27 16:39 |
| gde33 | they can always learn the nesasary stuff and join us | Jan 27 16:39 |
| gde33 | until they do they will just have to trust us | Jan 27 16:40 |
| gde33 | one way or annother | Jan 27 16:40 |
| MinceR | they can't and they don't care to | Jan 27 16:40 |
| gde33 | I dont see the problem with people who dont care | Jan 27 16:40 |
| MinceR | and if you devise a system to confirm that they've learned, that system will be compromised | Jan 27 16:40 |
| gde33 | cant we respect that? | Jan 27 16:40 |
| MinceR | people who don't care do a lot of damage | Jan 27 16:40 |
| gde33 | I'm looking for basic knowledge | Jan 27 16:40 |
| MinceR | people who don't care to think a bit voted hungary into a dictatorship | Jan 27 16:41 |
| MinceR | people who don't care to thing a bit keep the usa in its two-party system | Jan 27 16:41 |
| gde33 | we can eliminate most voters with the requirement of knowing which parties they can chose from. | Jan 27 16:41 |
| MinceR | probably same in the uk | Jan 27 16:41 |
| MinceR | not sure how that would work, considering that parties get nominated before the election | Jan 27 16:41 |
| MinceR | and there are a lot of parties who try to get nominated | Jan 27 16:42 |
| gde33 | we can require basic knowledge of each option | Jan 27 16:42 |
| MinceR | again, someone will decide what the right answers are | Jan 27 16:42 |
| gde33 | without knowledge of what the choices are your choice cant be considered as valauble as the next guy | Jan 27 16:42 |
| MinceR | and someone will tell the voters on their side what the right answers are | Jan 27 16:42 |
| gde33 | at first the test should be kintergarden level | Jan 27 16:43 |
| gde33 | seriously | Jan 27 16:43 |
| gde33 | most voters only know the names of the top 3 options | Jan 27 16:43 |
| MinceR | also, people will try to smear your test with all sorts of false stuff too, to fight it | Jan 27 16:43 |
| gde33 | thats fair | Jan 27 16:44 |
| gde33 | it deserves to be attacked | Jan 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | and it won't be introduced anywhere | Jan 27 16:44 |
| gde33 | for reasons you described earlier | Jan 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | unless the oligarchs want it to | Jan 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | but then they'll shape it to their needs | Jan 27 16:44 |
| gde33 | the idea is not at a stage where it can be implmeneted | Jan 27 16:44 |
| gde33 | but it is intersting to talk with people who argue they want to vote but they dont want to bother knowing anything | Jan 27 16:45 |
| gde33 | if you ask them how we are going to get it right they say ehhehehe | Jan 27 16:45 |
| gde33 | technically the correct response | Jan 27 16:46 |
| gde33 | If such a system would be taken over it would still allow for greater citizen participation? | Jan 27 16:49 |
| MinceR | it would seem to me that it would allow for less citizen participation | Jan 27 16:49 |
| MinceR | seeing how it's all about restricting who gets to participate | Jan 27 16:49 |
| gde33 | smaller numbers but more influence? | Jan 27 16:49 |
| MinceR | well, those are connected | Jan 27 16:50 |
| gde33 | the test could be designed to eliminate a fixed percentage of voters | Jan 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | in the extreme, you have one citizen participating, the Patrician | Jan 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | he is the Man, he has the Vote. | Jan 27 16:50 |
| gde33 | we merge his brain with the super computer | Jan 27 16:51 |
| gde33 | 3)???? 4) proffit! | Jan 27 16:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 16:52 |
| gde33 | it will be our only solution to avoid rule by AI | Jan 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | except he will be the AI and he will rule | Jan 27 16:55 |
| MinceR | so we won't avoid it at all | Jan 27 16:56 |
| gde33 | I liked Chavez TV show | Jan 27 17:02 |
| gde33 | who knows, maybe we could do a telepresence political model | Jan 27 17:02 |
| gde33 | cybernetic politicians with advanced telerobotics | Jan 27 17:04 |
| MinceR | how would you tell if they're psychopaths then? | Jan 27 17:06 |
| gde33 | by pluging into the live feeling telemetry feed | Jan 27 17:06 |
| gde33 | make it so that one can experience the representative | Jan 27 17:06 |
| MinceR | and then someone broke into the feed and made everyone die from a seizure :> | Jan 27 17:07 |
| gde33 | they are going to die anyway | Jan 27 17:08 |
| gde33 | at least it will be efficent | Jan 27 17:08 |
| MinceR | there are more efficient ways to kill everybody | Jan 27 17:08 |
| gde33 | less emotionally involved? | Jan 27 17:08 |
| MinceR | no, everybody | Jan 27 17:09 |
| gde33 | build in a safty system | Jan 27 17:09 |
| gde33 | mcaffee emo 2.0 | Jan 27 17:10 |
| MinceR | ooh | Jan 27 17:10 |
| MinceR | mcaffee for my neural system | Jan 27 17:10 |
| MinceR | i can't wait | Jan 27 17:10 |
| gde33 | you just configure the feelings you want | Jan 27 17:10 |
| MinceR | new and exciting ways to suffer and die | Jan 27 17:10 |
| MinceR | and you can't even uninstall it! | Jan 27 17:11 |
| gde33 | we always end up with that | Jan 27 17:11 |
| MinceR | of course the assumption that my neural system runs winblows is even scarier | Jan 27 17:11 |
| gde33 | it almost defeats the purpose of technology | Jan 27 17:11 |
| gde33 | bad patches :P | Jan 27 17:11 |
| MinceR | s/mcaffee/mcafee/ | Jan 27 17:12 |
| MinceR | (or, for german speakers, s/mcaffee/mcaffe/ :> ) | Jan 27 17:13 |
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| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7886825472 | Jan 27 17:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | cheezburger.com | Google "Duverger's Law" - Cheezburger | Jan 27 17:52 |
| gde33 | have people say their own opinion doesnt matter | Jan 27 17:59 |
| gde33 | if there was a 3rd party that represents what I believe I wouldnt vote for it because I dont want to be the first in anything. kind of logic | Jan 27 18:01 |
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| gde33 | MinceR: the oposite is also a fun picture, select the psycho as our leader then do an iq test to eliminate votes from overly brainy people. | Jan 27 18:14 |
| MinceR | what would that do? | Jan 27 18:14 |
| gde33 | it would make a collective out of people who really need one | Jan 27 18:14 |
| gde33 | and deploy a leader who knows he is a psycho, he should take some advice when it gets in the way | Jan 27 18:15 |
| gde33 | a bit like a surgeon would have to stay a bit emotionally detached | Jan 27 18:17 |
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| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/7899670528 | Jan 27 18:53 |
| gde33 | MinceR: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/5-d_fI6_Gz8/kyAQzodJQWoJ | Jan 27 19:10 |
| MinceR | o_O | Jan 27 19:11 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 27 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | "We didn't make it for Indians, WE MADE IT FOR WESTERNERS *WHO CAN AFFORD IT*". | Jan 27 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | (Emphasis is mine) | Jan 27 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, not even all westerners, only the very rich ones. And I'm sure that even post-Obamacare, insurance companies will figure out some way to "discourage" customers that cost them $5,750 a month in drugs alone. People that are that sick are the reason Medicare and Medicaid exist. They're made a burden of the public because private insurers don't want those customers, only relatively healthy ones. That's why those programs are allowed | Jan 27 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | to exist. It's privatized profits and socialized losses. Lemon Socialism. | Jan 27 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's wonderful that India has used the force majeure of its national government against foreign predatory drug companies, to help cancer and HIV patients. | Jan 27 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | More countries should do this, and they should tell Obama and his corporate crapitalist cronies to go to hell, and exactly where to shove the TPP. | Jan 27 19:26 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427924662627360768 | Jan 27 20:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/427930702294687744 | Jan 27 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Better anything than Apple. | Jan 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's hard to imagine any devices that come along that could be more hostile to freedom than iThings. | Jan 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Even Microsoft doesn't have a blanket ban of copyleft software on their Windows store. | Jan 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they could at any point, and that sort of abuse is something that app store monopolies enable. | Jan 27 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | geez | Jan 27 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I've almost filled up my 2 TB hard drive. | Jan 27 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 27 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I need to go through looking for files that I don't need anymore. | Jan 27 20:29 |
| gde33 | DaemonFC: you just need to buy a new one ;) | Jan 27 20:32 |
| gde33 | when you have 6 TB or more you will see that cleaning up is pointless lol | Jan 27 20:33 |
| schestowitz__ | tessier: only 3 or so days left for the site's current host; can a VM be set up tomorrow? | Jan 27 20:43 |
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| schestowitz__ | gde33: I have 8 TV | Jan 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz__ | YB | Jan 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz__ | TB | Jan 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427981620151590912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427981789752463360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427982182611943424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427982622086537216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427983678804070400 | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Suppressing contenders http://t.co/5ibC3f61e1 | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> cheezburger.com | Google "Duverger's Law" - Cheezburger | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Without money" https://t.co/2ymr35Clbg | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: FBI: catching the "criminals" (privacy proponents) https://t.co/9k1mydwYjD | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Optical illusion in 3-D https://t.co/rz8rvd6QPL | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: War on #anonymity http://t.co/sAPrbgZEKb | Jan 27 20:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gizmodo.com | The FBI Seized All of TorMail's Data and Is Using It to Catch Hackers | Jan 27 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427984517043732480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427984787371208704 | Jan 27 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dreams http://t.co/8QPiNUHFfD | Jan 27 21:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Choices http://t.co/AeUW5Zpv41 #europe not much better http://t.co/tkQFRaz7ik | Jan 27 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/lKswZ2Hx32 | Jan 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikdx | Jan 27 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to | Jan 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 13.10 Now http://t.co/Uw0RpadLPW | Jan 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikdy | Jan 27 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now | Tux Machines | Jan 27 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | My dad on Facebook regarding gay marriage. " So, besides offending a whole lot of people, confusing others, inspiring a lot of people to not care, and introducing that group to the joys of divorce, where is the prize?" | Jan 27 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Who cares if right-wing crazies in the American Taliban are offended? Seriously. Fuck them. I mean that. Fuck them very much. Sure, divorce will happen. I don't think it will exceed the embarrassingly high divorce rate of straight people, which is well over 50%." | Jan 27 21:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427987357179346945 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427987983837310977 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427988828792840192 | Jan 27 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now http://t.co/ripPBrlW6d #ubuntu #linux #gnu | Jan 27 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 13.04 Is No Longer Supported, Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Now | Jan 27 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: New version of Google spyware is out http://t.co/GAlPwFpz7H #firefox improved a lot, people should revisit it | Jan 27 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Jan 27 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Snowden-branded #nsa leaks are starting to slow down (infrequent new disclosures); are new anonymous leakers (using Snowden's name) afraid? | Jan 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 27 21:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 27 21:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "inBloom, I think, is a Gates thing." | Jan 27 21:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 27 21:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, I have already criticised that article at the time | Jan 27 21:29 |
| gde33 | does this link work? http://worldwide.espacenet.com/espacenetDocument.pdf?ND=3&flavour=printablePage&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090212&CC=WO&NR=2009019001A2&KC=A2&pageNumber=1 | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | http://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa/#comments | Jan 27 21:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fossforce.com | Is Red Hat Working for the NSA? - FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/gikij ] | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Some of those are facts, and I should read the rest of them again, but e.g. my take on Linus’ father was that he was speculating. | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Mixing facts and speculation doesn’t make them all facts. | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | BSD devs don’t trust HW RNG’s, neither Linux devs. And Linux devs treat every bug the same way, security implications or not. | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I might not like it but that’s the way they work. | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | My final question to you is: given your distrust on RedHat, how can you recommend people to use CentOS, given that they use the same sources? | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I wouldn’t trust them either, especially since they’re part of RedHat now. | Jan 27 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 27 21:30 |
| gde33 | I had annother great idea to limit peoples freedom, bra locks with build-in iq test. | Jan 27 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427990874623332352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427991391818772480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427992803067846656 | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List http://t.co/3pSFDIPo7m #gnome #gnu #linux | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? http://t.co/7FHwBvEqCB #zdnet again http://t.co/xffqS65Bil | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> m.itworld.com | Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | ITworld | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce http://t.co/OzhzH4H7sI #kfce #kde #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk | Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Jan 27 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HFf3jpBFnR | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmf | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | List http://t.co/ZUrs38Ge1p | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | New Google Chrome 32 Release Fixes Mouse Pointer and Quicktime Issues | Tux Machines | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmh | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Software App Adds Ardour to the Featured List | Tux Machines | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hx198qw7E5 | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmi | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why do Windows journalists have to trash Linux? | Tux Machines | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uqA6uuyLBD | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gikmj | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Revisited: Linux Mint 16 "Petra" KDE + Xfce | Tux Machines | Jan 27 21:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/427998519069528064 | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #seagate are incompetent; if all they can replace a faulty drive with is another faulty drive, then it's better if they don't bother at all. | Jan 27 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Kaitlyneene @tuxmachines 20 minutos... *o* | Jan 27 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/sDjctLXYgf | Jan 27 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giknd | Jan 27 21:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kaitlyneene: @tuxmachines 20 minutos... *o* http://t.co/sDjctLXYgf | Jan 27 21:57 |
| gde33 | MinceR: I'm still on our choice between nazi's or nazi's | Jan 27 22:15 |
| gde33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TlVqXVSz6w | Jan 27 22:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | WE ARE THE NAZIS - 911 THE MUSICAL - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gikpq ] | Jan 27 22:15 |
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| gde33 | common guys, we will win this war? | Jan 27 22:58 |
| tessier | schestowitz__: I'm working on a VM now... | Jan 28 00:02 |
| tessier | schestowitz__: /home is 99% full btw. Do you get emails when this happens? The monitoring system is configured to send them... | Jan 28 00:05 |
| tessier | I just extended the logical volume for /home... | Jan 28 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | The Indiana General Assembly just voted to strike the second sentence from the marriage discrimination amendment. | Jan 28 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | That means that they have to pass it again every year through 2016 before it can be placed on the ballot. | Jan 28 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | I think the Republicans did this because they hope that the courts will save them from having to vote in favor of the amendment. | Jan 28 00:33 |
| tessier | Indiana....I have lots of family there. | Jan 28 01:55 |
| tessier | Mostly conservative and mostly bigots of one sort or another. | Jan 28 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | the rural parts | Jan 28 02:05 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-23/tor-anonymity-software-vs-dot-the-national-security-agency | Jan 28 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessweek.com | Tor Anonymity Software vs. the National Security Agency - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/ghnni ] | Jan 28 04:29 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:05] <tessier> schestowitz__: /home is 99% full btw. Do you get emails when this happens? The monitoring system is configured to send them... | Jan 28 04:30 |
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| schestowitz__ | oops, I know why this happened. Must always have around 3 GB free for the backups to take place (DBs are over 2 GB) | Jan 28 04:31 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: I posted a link to it some days ago when it was first published | Jan 28 04:32 |
| iophk | Yes, I just now noticed that it actually made the cover. | Jan 28 04:32 |
| schestowitz__ | I said they had spun it | Jan 28 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Tor has some support from gov | Jan 28 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Origin and funding | Jan 28 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | For their astroturf ro whatever | Jan 28 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | and propping up coups in other countries perhaps | Jan 28 04:36 |
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| schestowitz__ | The BW/bloomberg article goes further by characterising it as a property of the gov, I think | Jan 28 04:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 04:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 04:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Entertainment is another word for a palliative against one's disatisfaction with oneself. Unless one is first able to be happy while just being, without distraction (including thinking), then one craves entertainment. Conversely, if one is able to be content alone and not distracted from one's own being, entertainment serves no purpose, but can be taken, or left aside, with equal ease."77" | Jan 28 04:38 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3559214 | Jan 28 04:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #outage at #nsa #dropbox "was caused by internal maintenance," according to DropBox. Setting up more doors for NSA? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/11/dropbox | Jan 28 04:38 |
| schestowitz__ | You would not expect these geniuses to contract out to companies for this kind of thing. Remember when the CIA director got caught in some woman's Yahoo?"77" | Jan 28 04:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wired.co.uk | Hackers claim responsibility for Dropbox outage (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/gimm0 ] | Jan 28 04:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428101598775365632 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428101788529881088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428102151005810688 | Jan 28 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #GNU in the Days of #UNIX http://t.co/7vusjlD9rV | Jan 28 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » GNU in the Days of UNIX | Jan 28 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #TuxMachines Site Migration Imminent (Updatex2) http://t.co/lTRwDjCQkr The target VM is now ready. | Jan 28 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.tuxmachines.org | Site Migration Imminent (Updatex2) | Tux Machines | Jan 28 04:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #seagate claims to have warranty, but what it actually means is, you can send faulty drive at own expense to get a different faulty one | Jan 28 04:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558771 | Jan 28 04:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies https://beyondrevolution.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/over-half-of-germanys-renewable-energy-owned-by-citizens-farmers-not-utility-companies/ #germany #ebergy | Jan 28 04:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> beyondrevolution.wordpress.com | Over Half of Germany’s Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies | Beyond Revolution [ http://ur1.ca/gimml ] | Jan 28 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | "Good. Now if this can just happen everywhere..." | Jan 28 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3339990 | Jan 28 04:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @smg@diasp.org: #fsf #unix #c #linux #gnu | Jan 28 04:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by smg@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 28 04:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by smg@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_18bbed2b00bf586e4503.png | Jan 28 04:50 |
| schestowitz__ | 'He was probably at a seminar or whatever in Britain or speaking about the british market, would be my guess. AS IF BRITAIN IS DEVOID OF SOCIOPATHS! For shame." | Jan 28 04:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558618 | Jan 28 04:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rich people: people are poor because they're lazy; Poor people, indoctrinated by rich people-owned media: I just need to work harder. | Jan 28 04:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "When in reality, it is because the rich people have forced those poorer than them into debt. We have to take out loans (debt) of debt-based money in order to do almost anything because it is nearly impossible to save up for large purchases (cars, houses, college) because the money loses its value before it can be spent. And by rich people, I exclude the majority of business owners who are also forced to use debt." | Jan 28 04:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3556127 | Jan 28 04:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hollywood and celebs: all the distraction our world needs to be blind to state crimes, tyranny, & other illegalities http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/op-ed-msnbc-cuts-off-nsa-interview-for-breaking-news-of-bieber-arrest/article/367332 | Jan 28 04:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.digitaljournal.com | Op-Ed: MSNBC cuts off NSA interview for 'breaking news' of Bieber arrest [ http://ur1.ca/gi5lj ] | Jan 28 04:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "Considering the "press" is owned by tConsidering the "press" is owned by the same people that own the government through bribes, sorry "campaign contributions", it would not surprise me were giddy when they found out about this."he same people that own the government through bribes, sorry "campaign contributions", it would not surprise me were giddy when they found out about this. | Jan 28 04:51 |
| MinceR | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5fhL002JJ7I/UuPRfm_iAyI/AAAAAAAA83o/yhyv-g_gSYg/w499-h551-no/jesus.jpg | Jan 28 04:52 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: yeah | Jan 28 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558657 | Jan 28 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Get 'em while they're young," they say... http://io9.com/the-nsas-website-for-kids-isnt-creepy-nope-not-cree-1508865211 | Jan 28 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> io9.com | The NSA's website for kids isn't creepy. Nope. Not creepy at all. [ http://ur1.ca/gimp1 ] | Jan 28 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Indoctrination of the young and impressionable is always creep-tastic." | Jan 28 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558215 | Jan 28 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/note-3-users-samsung-disabled-unofficial-accessories-via-software-update/ #samsung #ballnux | Jan 28 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Note 3 users: Samsung disabled unofficial accessories via software update | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gi5ei ] | Jan 28 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "...taking a page from Apple's playbook..." | Jan 28 04:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 04:54 |
| MinceR | also, region lock | Jan 28 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 28 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Apple is suffering from ANdroud now | Jan 28 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | it too is a religion | Jan 28 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | preying on young and unpopular | Jan 28 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Thinking they'd substitute bad life with a tiny worship-worthy machine | Jan 28 04:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558510 | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #drones with legs, wheels, etc. http://www.slashgear.com/u-s-army-expects-to-replace-a-quarter-of-soldiers-with-robots-by-2040-23314216/ http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/us-army-hopes-replace-25-soldiers-robots-2040/20003 http://www.voanews.com/content/us-army-envisions-more-robotic-future/1836408.html | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slashgear.com | U.S. Army expects to replace a quarter of soldiers with robots by 2040 - SlashGear [ http://ur1.ca/gimpc ] | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040 - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gimpe ] | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.voanews.com | U.S. Army Envisions More Robotic Future [ http://ur1.ca/gimpf ] | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/raEmqlSVYq | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimph | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung rumoured to release ‘Galaxy Glass’ IFA | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Berlin 2014 http://t.co/dMMoi9ANUk | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimpj | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung rumoured to release ‘Galaxy Glass’ IFA Berlin 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 04:55 |
| schestowitz__ | "An unquestioning army who will never question their orders, regardless of how inhumane they are..." | Jan 28 04:56 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/01/27/richard-shermans-winning-rant/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=richard-shermans-winning-rant | Jan 28 05:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | Richard Sherman's Winning Rant [ http://ur1.ca/gimqx ] | Jan 28 05:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428107414454689792 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428109367335190528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428110498807418880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428111285625307136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428111550541737984 | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Case of the Missing OS, or Did Apple Eat Pear? http://t.co/IUT2YEVQw6 #apple #pearos http://t.co/FIB9D1ZsFq | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxinsider.com | The Case of the Missing OS, or Did Apple Eat Pear? | Community | LinuxInsider | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Why a Deletion of Pear OS From the Web (Including SourceForge) is Mysterious | Techrights | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment http://t.co/DoM6WPFaRm #ome | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux http://t.co/1OdZhlkivb #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Paradox' Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux - Muktware | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #samsung to produce #linux based #cctv glasses too http://t.co/nf9ocOvQ1v | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Samsung rumoured to release 'Galaxy Glass' IFA Berlin 2014 - Muktware | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 http://t.co/IWkKeIANmH #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.junauza.com | 7 Things We Expect from Ubuntu in 2014 | TechSource | Jan 28 05:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | heading for Linux http://t.co/tC1L7sDv2X | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzg | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Knoppix Review, Shotwell's Future, and 5 | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Insults http://t.co/jyK3N0sMIK | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Paradox’ Runemaster and Hearts of Iron IV heading for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzh | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Knoppix Review, Shotwell's Future, and 5 Insults | Tux Machines | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fSSNFm4EOQ | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzj | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ome: A New Cross-Platform Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Make Peace with pax http://t.co/blPp8TfIbu | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gimzk | Jan 28 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Make Peace with pax | Tux Machines | Jan 28 05:35 |
| iophk | ok, authorized access then? | Jan 28 05:38 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/microsoft-rules-out-back-door-access-to-mps-electronic-communications | Jan 28 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Microsoft rules out ‘back door’ access to MPs’ electronic communications | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gin07 ] | Jan 28 05:39 |
| iophk | It's probably right there in the EULA | Jan 28 05:39 |
| iophk | http://bluesky.chicagotribune.com/hub/chi-mit-finding-competitive-advantage-in-open-source-bsi-hub,0,0.htmlstory?track=bluesky-ct-head | Jan 28 05:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | bluesky.chicagotribune.com | How open-source software drives innovation - Blue Sky Innovation [ http://ur1.ca/gin0i ] | Jan 28 05:41 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: good link | Jan 28 05:45 |
| schestowitz__ | I will write about it later | Jan 28 05:45 |
| schestowitz__ | The Guardian covers up for Microsoft again | Jan 28 05:45 |
| iophk | *EULA -> EULA(s) | Jan 28 05:47 |
| MinceR | http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/10000/0000/700/210759/210759.strip.zoom.gif | Jan 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.datamation.com/news/tech-comics-geek-spoilsports-1.html | Jan 28 05:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.datamation.com | Tech Comics: Geek Spoilsports - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/gin2f ] | Jan 28 05:52 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: any related articles? | Jan 28 05:53 |
| schestowitz__ | I xdidn't see one with accusations | Jan 28 05:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a defence of Microsoft | Jan 28 05:53 |
| iophk | not off hand | Jan 28 05:53 |
| iophk | possibly a pre-emptive strike to distract from something. | Jan 28 05:53 |
| iophk | It might be in reference to something months old. | Jan 28 05:54 |
| iophk | http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40836.html | Jan 28 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.marketoracle.co.uk | NSA Built Back Door In All Microsoft Windows Software Since 1999 :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting Free Website [ http://ur1.ca/gin3b ] | Jan 28 05:55 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/11/snowden_leak_shows_microsoft_added_outlookencryption_backdoor_for_feds/ | Jan 28 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Snowden leak: Microsoft added Outlook.com backdoor for Feds • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gin3d ] | Jan 28 05:56 |
| iophk | http://www.zentyal.org/2013/12/zentyal-3-3-featuring-microsoft-exchange-server-replacement-is-now-available/ | Jan 28 05:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zentyal.org | News - Zentyal 3.3, featuring Microsoft Exchange Server replacement, is now available | Linux Small Business Server [ http://ur1.ca/gin3q ] | Jan 28 05:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428114838909648896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428118783325388800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428119179775180800 | Jan 28 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview http://t.co/C7F7MdhwWN #ubuntu #debian #linux | Jan 28 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview | Jan 28 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Delivery #drones http://t.co/UPzo7M0ljZ | Jan 28 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How open-source software drives innovation http://t.co/m4gQ9SWY10 because the "i" word (innovation) is hip these days | Jan 28 05:57 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: yes, but these are from last year | Jan 28 05:57 |
| iophk | yes, old | Jan 28 05:57 |
| schestowitz__ | was there a new complaint in Aussie Greens? | Jan 28 05:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Cause I saw no coverage of them | Jan 28 05:57 |
| schestowitz__ | certainly not from Gates-funded 'guardian' | Jan 28 05:58 |
| iophk | maybe this? | Jan 28 05:58 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/18/us-able-monitor-australian-mps | Jan 28 05:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Australian MPs could be exposed to US surveillance, IT official concedes | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gin4r ] | Jan 28 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, but oldish | Jan 28 05:58 |
| iophk | Of course the Guardian is not going to help by linking to any other articles, old or new. | Jan 28 05:59 |
| iophk | It could be in response to the old article or a distraction from something else happening now. | Jan 28 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | like what? | Jan 28 06:01 |
| schestowitz__ | I didn't see MS in the headlines, except for lies | Jan 28 06:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Brad Smith and others claiming to move "cloud" out of US for non-US 'customers | Jan 28 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Huff Puff/AOL printed this nonsense | Jan 28 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It's a PR plot | Jan 28 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It's a PR ploy | Jan 28 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | because of seagate I didn't have time to look into NSA news yesterday | Jan 28 06:02 |
| iophk | I wouldn't know, the good headlines are often buried. | Jan 28 06:04 |
| iophk | also old : | Jan 28 06:10 |
| iophk | http://delimiter.com.au/2013/11/20/worst-cio-job-australia/ | Jan 28 06:10 |
| iophk | "We know that Microsoft software contains a back door which is utilised by the US NSA and Microsoft has been very active in assisting the NSA to circumvent the company’s own encryption standards." | Jan 28 06:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | delimiter.com.au | Worst CIO job in Australia? - Delimiter [ http://ur1.ca/ginba ] | Jan 28 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428122907362217984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428123158898835456 | Jan 28 06:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "The gist of the story is that "123456" is now the most commonly used weak password" http://t.co/WgDLMp1XLC I use people who use it! | Jan 28 06:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Password Security Requires Multiple Layers of Protection | Jan 28 06:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/dpihChLXRQ #amd #nvidia #linux | Jan 28 06:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Jan 28 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Preview http://t.co/muSFpXX0UJ | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ginch | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics Card Comparison http://t.co/poNqc61Mla | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gincj | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview | Tux Machines | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Four must try Indie games on Linux | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OvCPHvpGn7 | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ginck | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 24-Way AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce Linux Graphics Card Comparison | Tux Machines | Jan 28 06:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Four must try Indie games on Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 06:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3565099 | Jan 28 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Optical illusion in 3-D https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Xw1Z_-WwUkccw1tZ8nCsSW_IjdvrWx2vlBgKskRnBJE=w402-h223-no | Jan 28 06:17 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVBDBGSt-DQ | Jan 28 06:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | floating box illusion - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gincq ] | Jan 28 06:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 06:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "yep https://plus.google.com/u/0/100647702320088380533/posts/XUATuoci42L http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/to-lisa-macfarlane-and-suzanne-estey-and-you-thought-it-was-a-conspiracy-theory/ oh look, it's you https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/P8k9iHsvWNJ '" | Jan 28 06:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 06:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | glyn moody - Google+ - All Your Child's Data Are Belong To InBloom -… [ http://ur1.ca/gind0 ] | Jan 28 06:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | seattleducation2010.wordpress.com | To Lisa Macfarlane and Suzanne Estey: And you thought it was a conspiracy theory? | Seattle Education [ http://ur1.ca/gind1 ] | Jan 28 06:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | Will Hill - Google+ - We covered inBloom before. It’s like Gates’ own mini-PRISM.… [ http://ur1.ca/gind2 ] | Jan 28 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Thankful for the mention... | Jan 28 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3565107 | Jan 28 06:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: War on #anonymity http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-seized-all-of-tormails-data-and-is-using-it-to-1509838202 | Jan 28 06:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gizmodo.com | The FBI Seized All of TorMail's Data and Is Using It to Catch Hackers [ http://ur1.ca/gind6 ] | Jan 28 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "Gizmodo is stupid. FBI uses Windows malware, search warrants and duress to steal a database, so Gizmodo concludes TOR is worthless. No, what's worthless for your privacy is Windows, non free software and US hosting." | Jan 28 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3561448 | Jan 28 06:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/26/edward-snowden-threats_n_4670786.html remember when the #fbi sent letters with death threats? | Jan 28 06:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Edward Snowden: There Are 'Significant Threats' To My Life [ http://ur1.ca/gindc ] | Jan 28 06:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "I would like more people appreciate what Snowden did and realize what costed him. There would be no need of a handful of heros if millons of people acted like responsible citizens." | Jan 28 06:21 |
| schestowitz__ | several other NSA employees are now following his example and leaking more documents, published with attribution to Snowden for their safety, based on G.A.P. | Jan 28 06:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't disagree and think we're just highlighting different aspects of the issue. | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | However, rather than demeaning or downgrading TV watchers, I'm encouraging people to consider what they do and why, and providing a simple and easy way to test out my statement, for anyone with a mind to wake up. | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Try changing a habit, and if you can't, well, are you curious to know why is that? Is that OK for you? And if not, well the solution is in there too. | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | The last part is not easy though, and something I have been working on for years, with some success, but always many more habits to challenge, and aspects of myself that I struggle to be with. | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | My wife and I don't watch TV. I gave away my last set about a decade ago, and I've hardly missed a thing. In fact, the world (outdoor) and society (communication) is too good to be wasted, esp. if the alternative is a one-way broadcast (data-pushing) apparatus which treats us like fetuses. | Jan 28 07:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428124064134475776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428132567511228416 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428132604043612160 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428139298849054720 | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Four must try Indie games on Linux http://t.co/ZOhfPIygdk #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Four must try Indie games on Linux - Muktware | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Developers, generally speaking, want to share their code with other developers." http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ebb.org | GCC, LLVM, Copyleft, Companies, and Non-Profits - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "It's lawyers and business people with dollar signs in their eyes who want to make proprietary software." http://t.co/GfrXOXys4u | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "EU agreed its current Data Protection Directive in 1995... Mark Zuckerberg was just 11." http://t.co/AF3PcDFKeV #privacy | Jan 28 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ec.europa.eu | Data Protection Day - European Commission | Jan 28 07:31 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428140421978808320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428140949341224960 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428141643678887936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428142642552397824 | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First ever #CryEngine Game to head for Linux http://t.co/SYNUe2gEDV #gnu #linux #games | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Google Patent aims to offer ad based driverless taxi service - Muktware | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Speaking personally, I have never, ever, switched off comments on my blog posts or deleted posts" http://t.co/kqNlF20wVv | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.jonobacon.org | On Accountability | jonobacon@home | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux http://t.co/O69j7D7CpU #games #gnu #linux | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The state of digital freedom in 2014 http://t.co/oYSFnxCvhr OSI president speaks about freedom, not openness. #fsf #gnu | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.infoworld.com | The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Open Source Software - InfoWorld | Jan 28 07:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever CryEngine Game to head for Linux | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fEa6kjsvDv | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9h | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3bR3IpxUyY | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9i | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | First ever CryEngine Game to head for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MfoaZyHKiC | Jan 28 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9j | Jan 28 07:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Must Have Steam Titles on Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 28 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are | Jan 28 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Actually Stable http://t.co/3xYxyltRWB | Jan 28 07:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | The state of digital freedom in 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gio9k | Jan 28 07:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable | Tux Machines | Jan 28 07:56 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/finnish-schools-using-open-source-reap-savings | Jan 28 08:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gioc3 ] | Jan 28 08:11 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428159303124803584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428155742445924353 | Jan 28 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Finnish schools using open source reap savings https://t.co/Gq6rJq0aoy #finland #freedom #freesw | Jan 28 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable http://t.co/PmJ8O542qn #gnu #linux | Jan 28 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone | Jan 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428159824514519040 | Jan 28 08:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Upgrading home connection to fibre-optics; 80Mbit download, 20Mbit upload. This will hopefully make the connections more stable, too. | Jan 28 08:37 |
| MinceR | if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it. | Jan 28 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3558817 | Jan 28 08:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: #### Life Without TV... boring? | Jan 28 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's great. :-) TV is the headline here, because almost everyone has one, and many watch a lot of it, but it it's not the point of my post, which is about the many ways people are averse to being, and how disempowering this can be." | Jan 28 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428160575764713473 | Jan 28 08:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox http://t.co/TX9o4W4BcZ #gnome #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 28 08:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.datamation.com | KDE Desktop Vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox - Datamation | Jan 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Jan 28 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/glkQ61PhmF | Jan 28 08:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox | Jan 28 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ew9Y4fz3Yg | Jan 28 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gionn | Jan 28 08:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Finnish schools using open source reap savings | Tux Machines | Jan 28 08:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Desktop vs. GNOME Apps: The Great Paradox | Tux Machines | Jan 28 08:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428164913748770817 | Jan 28 08:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #ForgeRock rocks with #Sun projects http://t.co/uLD8XreDH0 | Jan 28 08:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itwire.com | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Jan 28 08:59 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: I habe some posts scheduled for tonight | Jan 28 08:59 |
| iophk | cool | Jan 28 08:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I have lots planned for yesterday, but Seagate drive arrive and it was as broken as the one it replaced | Jan 28 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Burned 4 hours of my time, killed my appetiate, and even ruined my morning | Jan 28 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if a company can be held legally liable for replacing faulty with faulty under "warrany" | Jan 28 09:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a total waste of time, would be better to use the time to just buy a new drive | Jan 28 09:00 |
| iophk | I've heard that some send refurbished drives as warranty replacements. | Jan 28 09:01 |
| iophk | How long was the warranty? 1,2,5 years? | Jan 28 09:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Tonight I need to set up NRPE on dozens of Debian servers, then I can post lots of good articles again, can pick up pace again this year, and am getting fibre next month... | Jan 28 09:01 |
| schestowitz__ | 2 years | Jan 28 09:01 |
| schestowitz__ | the new drive sort of hangs up randomly | Jan 28 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Sometimes while formatting | Jan 28 09:02 |
| iophk | There was a recent report rating Seagate as very low on reliabi.lity | Jan 28 09:02 |
| iophk | Hitachi was best in the report. | Jan 28 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I need to focus on TuxMachiens migration, so I'll put off any futher work on the drive. I will do a thorough fsck thius weekend and use it to prove they sent me garbage | Jan 28 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Segates's official account in twitter already stepped in for damage control | Jan 28 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | I got Hitachi as a replacement for a bad laptop drive in my Compaq | Jan 28 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | IIRC it lasted for many years | Jan 28 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | When I tried it in 2001, around 10 years later, I think it did get some inode issues (under DSL), but that was the last time I played with that old laptop (32 MB of RAM) | Jan 28 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Hitachi=IBM | Jan 28 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Is that something that's in China's hands now too? | Jan 28 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM makes me think, maybe the future realy is IT staff losing jobs to China (the Symphony team is largely Chinese) and China is going to just buy or overrise US brands | Jan 28 09:05 |
| schestowitz__ | And then there's India | Jan 28 09:05 |
| schestowitz__ | China, reportedly, is now getting more involved in software, just like India | Jan 28 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | huiman resources (time) are cheap there | Jan 28 09:06 |
| iophk | Their R&D may not be so good but then the US has been cutting and cutting R&D for years now. | Jan 28 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | They can do extreme programming, like having 3 people working on a program at once, spotting issues like they do in factories | Jan 28 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | My siuster works with Chinese programmers who are in GE, and she's says they're not so good.... yet GE has been dropping US workers and hiring in China for a while | Jan 28 09:07 |
| schestowitz__ | My brother's old company did the same with India, and some said that the cost of fixing their programming mistakes (I actually think they have fantastic programmers) is higher than the savings of outsourcing the job | Jan 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Mass production paradigm is being ytested in s/w now | Jan 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | See Microsoft | Jan 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Around Vista they send the programming to India | Jan 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Same with Adobe | Jan 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | And look what happened | Jan 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Saved money on wages, but the software is not necessarily better, to say the least | Jan 28 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | It's good for managers, perhaps, but even that's doubtab;e | Jan 28 09:09 |
| iophk | M$ has never had good quality though. And I can't recall when Adobe last was good. | Jan 28 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Class war is now also a war t devalue IT pros, driving their wages down, increasing working hours, stress, etc. | Jan 28 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Automation experts too are no longer valued | Jan 28 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Like outsourcing the outsiurcers | Jan 28 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Eventually the outsourcers too will see themselves replaced by thiose whom they promote | Jan 28 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | FOSS is one way to reduce costs | Jan 28 09:10 |
| iophk | Saves effort, too. | Jan 28 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and then sort of justify the expense of hiring expensive staff | Jan 28 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Like people who manage 1000 servers at once | Jan 28 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | with no costs associated with the automation (puppet, nagios, etc.) involves | Jan 28 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | *ved | Jan 28 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:59] <TechrightsBot-tr> @schestowitz: #ForgeRock rocks with #Sun projects http://t.co/uLD8XreDH0 | Jan 28 09:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itwire.com | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Jan 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The FOSS SMBs are good to work for | Jan 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | They have large companies as clients | Jan 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | staff can work from home, bossing minimal | Jan 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | People motivated by eagerness to deploy FOSS | Jan 28 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | An ideaological boss of sorts | Jan 28 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Like political drives, or advocacy | Jan 28 09:13 |
| iophk | , | Jan 28 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | We estimate your download speed will be between 79.9Mb and 80Mb. | Jan 28 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | We estimate your upload speed will be between 20Mb and 20Mb. | Jan 28 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children. That's why we include free BT Parental Controls with all our broadband packages. | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If you haven't already, turn on BT Parental Controls now. | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | (you'll need to log in and click the BT Parental Controls tile) | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | LOL | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | At least it's still OFF by DEDAULT | Jan 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Won't be for long | Jan 28 09:19 |
| iophk | Nope, not for long. | Jan 28 09:20 |
| iophk | When it's deployed widely enough, they'll throw th.e switch | Jan 28 09:21 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 28 09:21 |
| schestowitz__ | It's not important what _I_ do | Jan 28 09:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Sites like TorrentFreak get blocked | Jan 28 09:21 |
| schestowitz__ | So people around me will continues to be brainwashed only by one side of the feud | Jan 28 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | And it hurts everyone | Jan 28 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | lullung the population | Jan 28 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | TPP - sounds good, freedom... trade... | Jan 28 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Frzcking- cool, mate, saves me in energy bills | Jan 28 09:22 |
| iophk | Reminds me a little of how Groklaw and other sites were blocked during the OOXML scandal due to a 'contract dispute' Funny how nothing like that has happened before or since. I guess with the BTPC, some sites will get blocked "accidentally" at key times. | Jan 28 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Censorship - well, think about the children | Jan 28 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | DPI - against terrorism, helps me get targetted marketing | Jan 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklaw was blocked? | Jan 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | PJ never explained to me that | Jan 28 09:23 |
| iophk | In parts of Europe. | Jan 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | she abstained form commenting | Jan 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | I think Websense blacklisted her | Jan 28 09:23 |
| iophk | Updegrove and some others were als o blocked. | Jan 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | on what grounds was it? | Jan 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow | Jan 28 09:24 |
| iophk | Some were blocked directly others because the DNS they used were blocked. | Jan 28 09:24 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if i should be careful with the photos of drone victims | Jan 28 09:24 |
| schestowitz__ | They could use that as an excuse for blocking. I never had someone reporting to me that s/he had been blocked, not even in censorship-happy nations | Jan 28 09:24 |
| iophk | It was interesting that the pro-standards people were clustered around certain companies and blocking that one company could block directly / indirectly the sites. It let up hours after the vote. | Jan 28 09:24 |
| iophk | *a few | Jan 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Not even when I wrote a lot morew and get around 3 million hits per week (now it's less than that) | Jan 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | One day we can get bloc0ked | Jan 28 09:25 |
| iophk | (16.23.57) schestowitz__: on what grounds was it? | Jan 28 09:25 |
| iophk | The claim was a contract dispute between networks... | Jan 28 09:25 |
| iophk | "happens all the time" was the excuse. | Jan 28 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. now that I dtop links on NSA, GCHQ, some leaks (not as many original ones as before), criticism of armies... | Jan 28 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | This reminds me, I have a load of links to dtop about it... hang on... | Jan 28 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428170138635235328 | Jan 28 09:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "BT Cloud - online storage with 50GB of space" - cool, now you can share your personal data with #gchq and #nsa for FREE! | Jan 28 09:27 |
| iophk | Groklaw was blocked in late march 2008 according to old mails. | Jan 28 09:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428174732878680064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428175005625876480 | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BT E-mail: "Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls. Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children." | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Think about the children! They might read _*gasp_* news sites like TorrentFreak (blocked by Sky) and be exposed to other views. | Jan 28 09:38 |
| iophk | The block was not everywhere just in some regions IIRC | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, Norway IIRC | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | her readers in Norway reported this at the time | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source venture that's profited from | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oracle's actions http://t.co/lrDylf8App | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gipa1 | Jan 28 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open source venture that's profited from Oracle's actions | Tux Machines | Jan 28 09:38 |
| schestowitz__ | She may have mentioned in in news Picks | Jan 28 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | TBH, I have not been to GL for months | Jan 28 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder how much the archive is good for when it comes to traffic, which is what matters because it gauges impact factor | Jan 28 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklw is badly build in the SEO sense | Jan 28 09:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Comments are hidden by default for one thing | Jan 28 09:39 |
| iophk | Yeah, most CMS are bad for that. | Jan 28 09:40 |
| iophk | The Comes v M$ stuff could also use metadata to aid in the searching. | Jan 28 09:43 |
| iophk | I wonder if it would be practical or appropriate to convert it to static HTML or just leave it? | Jan 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I don;t think many would pursue Comes docs anymore | Jan 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft is dying | Jan 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | no matter what they say and how they cook the books | Jan 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | many businesses still feed MS, but for how long? | Jan 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | We help some migrate to Linux at the server room AND desktop (Ubuntu mostly) | Jan 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | main fileserver transition due tonight at midland | Jan 28 09:45 |
| iophk | Nice. | Jan 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | And once these succeed, the word spreads | Jan 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | and more in the same sector follow, as they do... | Jan 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428176608332357633 | Jan 28 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Links 28/01/2014: Recent News About Militarism, Violence http://t.co/51lTe1RUo8 news from the past week or so | Jan 28 09:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 28/01/2014: Recent News About Militarism, Violence | Techrights | Jan 28 09:45 |
| iophk | https://threatpost.com/issa-five-other-congressmen-call-for-dni-clappers-removal/103890 | Jan 28 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | threatpost.com | Congressmen Call For DNI Clapper's Ouster | Threatpost - English - Global - threatpost.com [ http://ur1.ca/gipcr ] | Jan 28 09:46 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560047 | Jan 28 09:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Bishop's auto-masochist machine... | Jan 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "...or enable Googleborgs wave of semi-autonomous robot armies to wash over the land enslaving most of us for the benefit of a few..." | Jan 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560047 | Jan 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "with Eric "don't blame me, it's legal, so blame politicians, and lobbyists, no wait, not lobbyists" Schmidt at the helm, Bugs is right on here." | Jan 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3560047 | Jan 28 10:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "With the recent acquisitions of DeepMind and Boston Robotics, one really has to wonder..." | Jan 28 10:04 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428178798874730496 | Jan 28 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Issa, Five Other Congressmen Call For DNI Clapper’s Removal https://t.co/DqFbqyxvzv removal only? How about prosecution? #nsa | Jan 28 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Jan 28 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aU3moYATom | Jan 28 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gipvc | Jan 28 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Tux Machines | Jan 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567159 | Jan 28 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "BT Cloud - online storage with 50GB of space" - cool, now you can share your personal data with #gchq and #nsa for FREE! | Jan 28 11:02 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "you paid for it" | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567252 | Jan 28 11:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BT E-mail: "Remember to turn on your free BT Parental Controls. Staying safe online is important for everyone, especially your children." | Jan 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Reaky , anyone recently watched v for vendetta ? You britons r headed that way , in the speed line ..." | Jan 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Parental Controls...is important for everyone" Adults too, I guess... | Jan 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3563241 | Jan 28 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #KMail Complexity - and a little Patience http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/197664/index.html #kde #gnu #linux | Jan 28 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lxer.com | LXer: KMail Complexity - and a little Patience [ http://ur1.ca/ginfq ] | Jan 28 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 28 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That's one of the reasons your E17 desktop seems so smooth. If you turn on Kmail, that effect will go away. | Jan 28 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | KDE, to their credit, is working to make that search less obnoxious but I don't see how it can work. The only time I used Nepomuk was when Kmail demanded it for search. Even though I limited it to my email, it consumed 50 to 100% of my cpu for a week or two. It finally calmed down. | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The first and only time I tried to actually search my email using the fancy database, it deleted all of my email. The damn thing froze as soon as I pressed the search button. I waited for it to do what it wanted and was horrified to see that everything had been erased. | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Those two things, depending on database for core functions and risk of complete email loss, are why I'm going to use Trinity for my email. Wheezy has the last version of Kmail that I'd recommend to anyone, so I recommend other email clients to new users now. | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | thunderbird is very good and themes make it integrate well with everything | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 28 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "?You said it well." | Jan 28 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I tried, without success, for about 20 minutes to find the long writerup about why not to use DDG. I was unable to find it via G+, D*, personal site sections, Google search. Is that still online? | Jan 28 11:06 |
| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2325542/gchq-is-monitoring-facebook-likes-and-youtube-with-operation-squeaky-dolphin | Jan 28 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theinquirer.net | GCHQ is monitoring Facebook Likes and Youtube with Operation Squeaky Dolphin- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gipyy ] | Jan 28 11:08 |
| iophk | http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/angry-bird-told-nsa-youre/story?id=22251583 | Jan 28 11:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | A Little (Angry) Bird Told the NSA What You’re Up To - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/giq0w ] | Jan 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428183706365607936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428197805581406208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428198599433134080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428198948810264576 | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: GCHQ taught NSA how to #monitor Facebook , #Twitter in real time – #Snowden leak http://t.co/q1UEdpUyzZ #gchq #nsa | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NO TITLE | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 http://t.co/KUO72jWFJH margins make #linux #arm etc. take over | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> mrpogson.com | More Decay Of Wintel Seen In 2014 | Robert Pogson | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know http://t.co/5hjIGHEDtY http://t.co/OQtqziY61t http://t.co/3ZPzslitzo | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know - thanks to ANGRY BIRDS • The Register | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.sky.com | Angry Birds: NSA And GCHQ Harvest Apps Data | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds and 'leaky' phone apps targeted by NSA and GCHQ for user data | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR." (using sex in attempt to cause suicide) http://t.co/a6hoQTMYSa MLK died later | Jan 28 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> destee.com | J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. | Black People Meet | African Americans | Destee | Jan 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: toy beat me to it | Jan 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *you | Jan 28 11:15 |
| iophk | So it got a little help with the popularity... | Jan 28 11:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, well... | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I just showed it to Rianne | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | she and I played a finished many of the Angry Birds series | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And there's no escaping the spying, even in games | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google cghq xbox live | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NSA, GCHQ can listen to Xbox Live chat communications - Eurogamer | http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-09-nsa-gchq-can-listen-to-xbox-live-chat-communications | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - World of Spycraft: NSA, GCHQ hacked WoW and Xbox Live, other ... | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/world-of-spycraft-nsa-gchq-hacked-wow-and-xbox-live-other-games/ | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NSA and GCHQ spied on Xbox Live and World of Warcraft gamers ... | http://www.express.co.uk/news/science-technology/447704/NSA-and-GCHQ-spied-on-Xbox-Live-and-World-of-Warcraft-gamers-to-counter-terrorism | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - NSA And GCHQ Allegedly Spying On Xbox Live Gamers | http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/12/09/nsa-and-gchq-allegedly-spying-on-xbox-live-gamers/ | Jan 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | !google cghq world of warcraft | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NSA and GCHQ spies 'operated in games including World of ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/video-game-news/10506017/NSA-and-GCHQ-spies-operated-in-games-including-World-of-Warcraft-and-Second-Life.html | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - NSA, GCHQ 'planted agents' into World of Warcraft, Second Life to ... | http://rt.com/news/nsa-uk-spy-world-warcraft-942/ | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - NSA and GCHQ agents spied on online gamers using World of ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/nsa-and-gchq-agents-spied-on-online-gamers-using-world-of-warcraft-and-second-life-8993432.html | Jan 28 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - World of Spycraft: NSA, GCHQ hacked WoW and Xbox Live, other ... | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/world-of-spycraft-nsa-gchq-hacked-wow-and-xbox-live-other-games/ | Jan 28 11:17 |
| iophk | I guess Tetris was almost as popular but not as bloated. | Jan 28 11:17 |
| iophk | No space for spy stuff. | Jan 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's duiguised as "business model" | Jan 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Allowing the app to connect to the Web | Jan 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | sending out data, not just fetching ads | Jan 28 11:18 |
| iophk | Apparently a lot of other apps do similar leaks of info. | Jan 28 11:20 |
| iophk | M$ was getting into ad servers a while back. | Jan 28 11:20 |
| iophk | I thought that was about financial control but surveillance could have been part of it now that this comes to light. | Jan 28 11:21 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-and-microsofts-atlas-ad-server-2013-9 | Jan 28 11:25 |
| iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthof/2013/02/28/facebook-finally-pulls-trigger-buys-atlas-ad-server-from-microsoft/ | Jan 28 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Explanation Of Facebook And Microsoft's Atlas Ad Server - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/giq2y ] | Jan 28 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Facebook Finally Pulls Trigger, Buys Atlas Ad Server From Microsoft (*Updated With Comment) - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/giq2z ] | Jan 28 11:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428200711323938816 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428200916874170368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428201650114015232 | Jan 28 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: BBC: "Google's Drummond calls for new #NSA reforms" - yeah, they all do, those corporates, for their own profits, convenience, not #privacy | Jan 28 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bruce Schneier: 'NSA and GCHQ have betrayed the trust of the internet' http://t.co/xclqHj4XTq #nsa #gchq #internet | Jan 28 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Bruce Schneier: 'NSA and GCHQ have betrayed the trust of the internet' | Jan 28 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Surprising it's reported as noteworthy that Google Maps is spying on users. It has been known since ~7 years ago. http://t.co/3dK2vcsuqO | Jan 28 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techradar.com | Not even Google Maps, Angry Birds are safe from NSA and GCHQ spying | News | TechRadar | Jan 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428201901780647936 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428202221290147840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428202746081472513 | Jan 28 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Obama negotiates with his bosses (corporations) -- not people -- regarding #privacy http://t.co/lCjttIzKqD so epic. Funders decide. | Jan 28 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Tech giants reach White House deal on NSA surveillance of customer data | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 28 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Corporate press represents a "diversity" of views: the views of corporations as well as the views of corporations-funded politicians. | Jan 28 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #CCTV Glasses are normalising the idea of invading people's homes, bathrooms etc. with connected, always-on cameras. Spooky stuff. | Jan 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: what's the significant in today's context (FB/MSFT) | Jan 28 11:30 |
| iophk | the possibility for tracking | Jan 28 11:40 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | lo | Jan 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: Preston Gralla | Jan 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/23446/one-benefit-windows-phone-nsa-may-not-be-snooping-you | Jan 28 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.computerworld.com | One benefit of Windows Phone: The NSA may not be snooping on you | Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/giq6c ] | Jan 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | don't click | Jan 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the headline says it all | Jan 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Preston Gralla | Jan 28 11:41 |
| iophk | gralla again | Jan 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Use Windows... for PRIVACY :-) | Jan 28 11:41 |
| iophk | Probably uses weasel words to describe the situation. | Jan 28 11:42 |
| iophk | With FB taking in Atlas, they are getting more ties with M$ and with M$ "technology" | Jan 28 11:43 |
| iophk | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://atlassolutions.com | Jan 28 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | toolbar.netcraft.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/giq6v ] | Jan 28 11:43 |
| iophk | allows M$ to track site usage | Jan 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428204581328519168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428205509267972096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428205861568532480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206452260753408 | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Time (very pro-NSA) says the #us #government wants #nsa not to change, only to change perception http://t.co/N2nZN9VvB7 | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> swampland.time.com | U.S. Eyes Ways to Keep NSA Snooping Hidden | TIME.com | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA #Surveillance Divides the Republican Party http://t.co/VRxcWBX2ZV I hope it burns it, too | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | NSA Surveillance Divides the Republican Party - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #SAP comedy: it too pretends to be pro #privacy http://t.co/46qpvaueDz nice #PR ploy | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techradar.com | SAP and Atos team up for EU cloud standards to counter NSA threat | News | TechRadar | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA, GCHQ mapping “political alignment” of cellphone users http://t.co/Z5544iDfU2 McCarthyism much? | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.wsws.org | NSA, GCHQ mapping “political alignment” of cellphone users - World Socialist Web Site | Jan 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206566979158016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206724894703617 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428206911482499074 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428207364123394048 | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The NSA, CIA, and the Promise of Industrial #Espionage http://t.co/ldEsGdYWdO #cia #nsa government-sanctioned crime | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.counterpunch.org | The NSA, CIA, and the Promise of Industrial Espionage » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "AT&T’s ambitions to expand in Europe have been put on ice, for now." http://t.co/X8Y4ZYz1BW good! | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> qz.com | The NSA may have done AT&T a favor by hurting its reputation in Europe – Quartz | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Cut Off the NSA's Juice http://t.co/nvvqtyhBeX if they break the law, which they do, why not cut them off? | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Article: Cut Off the NSA's Juice | OpEdNews | Jan 28 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: War and surveillance are a video games to GCHQ: Xbox Live, WoW, Angry Birds, etc. They use FPSs to recruit killers, too. Games as brainwash. | Jan 28 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | appearance http://t.co/tjffR4OlBs | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giq9d | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Automate Cloud Servers http://t.co/uDarvdUzBe | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giq9e | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance | Tux Machines | Jan 28 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps Automate Cloud Servers | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428208788316098560 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209154386558976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209357860667392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209457018200064 | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Exceptionalism with assassination by flying robots http://t.co/GbeRP3fxUt http://t.co/0dfsi2OBem | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> sabahionline.com | US missile strike kills senior al-Shabaab leader in Somalia - Sabahionline.com | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> english.pravda.ru | Can other countries bomb USA like it bombs Somalia and many others? - English pravda.ru | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Should a robot decide when to kill? http://t.co/oppXd7RlTZ the Drone Defence: "I was only following algorithms. It came from a subroutine." | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theverge.com | Should a robot decide when to kill? | The Verge | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Drone strikes have crashed weddings, schools, funerals and rescuers. When will it end? http://t.co/r4xz3Z1LIk It will end by awareness | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.salon.com | The terrible human price of Obama’s drone war - Salon.com | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Peace activist raises awareness of drones http://t.co/LZIITOMUzK thank you, ma'am! | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.statesmanjournal.com | NO TITLE | Jan 28 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428209796329009153 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428210755587276800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428211306689474561 | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US exit from Afghanistan concerns #CIA http://t.co/ZFD8VQU19j so it means it's good to exit. http://t.co/EqmMi2dLQt | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.timesca.com | Times Of Cental Asia - US exit from Afghanistan concerns CIA | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theintell.com | Our quagmire in Afghanistan - The Intelligencer: Bucks County | Op-Ed | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Feinstein thinks assassination by #drones is OK because it mostly kills Arabs (for now) http://t.co/vZLbqCqYD5 | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | Senator Feinstein discusses John Brennan, the CIA and drone strikes - YouTube | Jan 28 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Corporate press lets us select a team like a football team, but the very glorification of football cannot be challenged. Politics =~ sport. | Jan 28 12:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Morell is a moron http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/27/sochi-olympics-the-most-dangerous-games-ever-ex-ci/ | Jan 28 12:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Sochi Olympics the ‘most dangerous’ games ever: ex-CIA boss - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/giqa4 ] | Jan 28 12:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428212440086900736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428212917935558657 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213263193886720 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213659257819136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428213958848557056 | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Daily Russophobia from Michael Moron (former# CIA boss) http://t.co/sVlh6qlyjo | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #CIA whistleblower Kiriakou’s letters from prison on #Firedoglake blog "dangerous," says Bureau of Prisons http://t.co/LBrrQ3BNpa | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> boingboing.net | NO TITLE | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US Department of "Justice" is covering up #torture http://t.co/23jyb8nXax no surprise here, but it's worth noting | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rapsinews.com | DOJ challenges journalist's claim to CIA interrogation report | Russian Legal Information Agency (RAPSI). | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Kiriakou exposed illegal torture; torturers promoted, #Kiriakou jailed. #Snowden exposed illegal spying; spies defended, Sno. fears for life | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On #CIA Prisons, Poland Sold Out for 'Pathetically Little' (Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland) http://t.co/7rz2btgwhm exporting #torture to #eu | Jan 28 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.worldmeets.us | On CIA Prisons, Poland Sold Out for 'Pathetically Little' (Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland) | Jan 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428216370644680704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428215184017350656 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428214917968461824 | Jan 28 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance http://t.co/420Ilev3jC #tizen #linux #samsung | Jan 28 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance - Muktware | Jan 28 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linode's Command Line Interface Tool Helps Automate Cloud Servers http://t.co/P6Ej0D4s8i #linode #linux #software | Jan 28 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found ) | Jan 28 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? http://t.co/jl1CfEmfra #chromebook #google #gnu #linux | Jan 28 12:22 |
| iophk | http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/01/27/bureau-of-prisons-considers-cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakous-letters-from-loretto-to-be-dangerous/ | Jan 28 12:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | dissenter.firedoglake.com | Bureau of Prisons Considers CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou’s ‘Letters from Loretto’ on Firedoglake to Be Dangerous | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/giqf2 ] | Jan 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | posted already | Jan 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | see above | Jan 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | oh, nm | Jan 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I posted a link to a link | Jan 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I added both to my drafts | Jan 28 12:33 |
| iophk | the FDL goes into detail the BB link has little detail | Jan 28 12:33 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/isps-no-longer-have-to-block-the-pirate-bay-dutch-court-rules-140128/ | Jan 28 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/giqgf ] | Jan 28 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? | Jan 28 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eo7jqAzEY4 | Jan 28 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giqi9 | Jan 28 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Could Samsung Focus Exclusively on Chromebooks? | Tux Machines | Jan 28 12:47 |
| <--freedomrun has quit (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) | Jan 28 12:50 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567899 | Jan 28 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA #Surveillance Divides the Republican Party http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/nsa-surveillance-divides-the-republican-party/283351/ I hope it burns it, too | Jan 28 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | NSA Surveillance Divides the Republican Party - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/giqjo ] | Jan 28 12:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "This will probably offer a new political paradigm in which social repression is not legislated but politicians will still think they can run the economy. Not a solution but culturally notable for sure." | Jan 28 12:51 |
| Guest47366 | https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226115497250816 | Jan 28 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/giqnn ] | Jan 28 13:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226281553940480 | Jan 28 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/giqno ] | Jan 28 13:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226115497250816 | Jan 28 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @glynmoody @schestowitz Wikipedian ideas of fun. I think I got them all, at least in main article space ... | Jan 28 13:11 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/428226281553940480 | Jan 28 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @glynmoody @schestowitz of course, half of them were what Heise laughingly called "permalinks". I THINK YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS | Jan 28 13:12 |
| Guest47366 | Publishers and writers are not the same | Jan 28 13:12 |
| Guest47366 | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428226629400150016 | Jan 28 13:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @davidgerard @schestowitz ha! | Jan 28 13:12 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a6w548L_700b.jpg | Jan 28 13:21 |
| Guest47366 | iophk: just been looking around Groklaw | Jan 28 13:21 |
| Guest47366 | for 10 minutes | Jan 28 13:21 |
| Guest47366 | It really is no longer maintained | Jan 28 13:21 |
| Guest47366 | not even behind the scenes | Jan 28 13:21 |
| Guest47366 | http://www.groklaw.net/index.php | Jan 28 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jan 28 13:21 |
| Guest47366 | It's like a fossilised site | Jan 28 13:22 |
| iophk | Right. It closed last year. | Jan 28 13:22 |
| Guest47366 | This time for real | Jan 28 13:22 |
| iophk | It probably would be safer to be put in some kind of archive mode. | Jan 28 13:22 |
| iophk | Yes. It's permanent. | Jan 28 13:22 |
| Guest47366 | In the past she spoke abouit preservation and orignisation | Jan 28 13:22 |
| <--Guest47366 (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has left #techrights ("Konversation term") | Jan 28 13:23 | |
| -->Guest47366 (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Jan 28 13:25 | |
| ---Guest47366 is now known as schestowitz | Jan 28 13:25 | |
| iophk | The last addition to Groklaw was in Sep with a newspick | Jan 28 13:25 |
| schestowitz | FOSS news sites are growing smaller and fewer | Jan 28 13:28 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Jan 28 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Like a post-hype thing | Jan 28 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Even Muktware is diverting its course | Jan 28 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Google, Internet, etc. | Jan 28 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Not so focused on FOSS anymore | Jan 28 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary games, tech news.. | Jan 28 13:29 |
| schestowitz | I guess operating ina vacuum for a movement is hard | Jan 28 13:30 |
| schestowitz | because on the Web, like anywhere, we need sources | Jan 28 13:30 |
| schestowitz | in the past journalists would reach out to people, execs, etc. | Jan 28 13:30 |
| iophk | twitter and facebook are not conducive to news, just chatter | Jan 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Now we can use sites that do this, but when they become scarce/few, then it;'s getting harder to follow leads | Jan 28 13:31 |
| iophk | and in general, investigative journalism is being killed | Jan 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | if it happens only in twitter, it's not "News" | Jan 28 13:31 |
| MinceR | in general, journalism is dying | Jan 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Like announcments from W3C | Jan 28 13:31 |
| schestowitz | It becomes news when news sites write about it | Jan 28 13:31 |
| MinceR | announcements from w3c are like announcements from the north korean government | Jan 28 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Depends on how one defines journalism | Jan 28 13:32 |
| schestowitz | In the mind of the government, the purpose of journalism is to create calm among the population | Jan 28 13:32 |
| MinceR | in my mind, that's not journalism | Jan 28 13:32 |
| iophk | yes, but look at who / what is in the W3C now, that's the cause. | Jan 28 13:33 |
| schestowitz | I have 3 short articles in the pipeline.. | Jan 28 13:33 |
| schestowitz | The lady who exposed Samsung GPL violation mailed me about Tuxera doing the same | Jan 28 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Tuxera are assholes... and an embarrassment to Finland | Jan 28 13:34 |
| iophk | Yes, they are. | Jan 28 13:34 |
| MinceR | what's tuxera? | Jan 28 13:34 |
| iophk | M$ Patent resellers | Jan 28 13:34 |
| MinceR | and is it nearly as much of an embarrassment to finland as mokia? | Jan 28 13:34 |
| iophk | Selling M$ patents via Finland | Jan 28 13:35 |
| iophk | Mokia is dead. Most people have realized that. | Jan 28 13:35 |
| iophk | Jolla has sold out several times. | Jan 28 13:35 |
| MinceR | alarmingly many people haven't realized it | Jan 28 13:35 |
| iophk | M$ won't keep the name alive I think. They'll rebrand as M$ | Jan 28 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxC281KAUGZH9G | Jan 28 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The House Committing Un-American Activities. Remembering McCarthyism. [ http://ur1.ca/giqyj ] | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | I saw a Facebook memorial for Pete Seeger, quoting his testimony to the House Committee on Un-American Activities (the paranoid anti-communist committee). | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | "I love my country very dearly, and I greatly resent this implication that some of the places that I have sung and some of the people that I have known, and some of my opinions, whether they are religious or philosophical, or I might be a vegetarian, make me any less of an American." | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote the following: | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ahh, McCarthyism. They were so paranoid about Communism that they forced most of Hollywood, including Lucille Ball to testify, accusing them of being "Communist sympathizers". | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | The committee committed so many civil rights abuses that it got the nickname "The House Committing Un-American Activities". | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee | Jan 28 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | McCarthyism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/8vle3 ] | Jan 28 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | House Un-American Activities Committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/giqyl ] | Jan 28 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/28/3193301/climate-change-draining-great-lakes/ | Jan 28 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thinkprogress.org | The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World's Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/giqzw ] | Jan 28 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | Much of it is draining out into the Atlantic because of human activity. | Jan 28 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | I was at Lake Michigan a couple of years ago. The shoreline has moved back by about 30-40 feet from the last time I was there, in the 90s. | Jan 28 14:13 |
| iophk | Many dunes are gone, too. | Jan 28 14:18 |
| *DaemonFC is planning to migrate this system to CentOS 7 with KDE when it is out... | Jan 28 14:20 | |
| DaemonFC | KDE 5 is approaching and I'm not sure about it. | Jan 28 14:20 |
| MinceR | XFCE is calling ;) | Jan 28 14:21 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430024,00.asp | Jan 28 14:24 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/angry-birds-rovio-respond-nsa-spying-revelations | Jan 28 14:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | Rovio Denies Providing User Data to Spy Agencies | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gir2k ] | Jan 28 14:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds firm calls for industry to respond to NSA spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gir2l ] | Jan 28 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have to provide it. | Jan 28 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | All they have to do is fail to protect it during transport. | Jan 28 14:36 |
| iophk | http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/pete-seeger-famed-folksong-crooner-writer-dead-94-article-1.1593663 | Jan 28 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nydailynews.com | Pete Seeger, famed folksong crooner and writer, dead at 94 - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/gird8 ] | Jan 28 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the iBeacon spyware was introduced in iOS 7, but the hardware to enable it has been in all iPhones and dormant since iPhone 4. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | If you walk into a store and start getting alerts from that store on your iPhone, that's why. But it's just as likely to be used silently to track where you are in their store, accurate to within a couple of inches, so that they can profile how the customer shops in their stores and design layouts that get people to buy more stuff they don't need. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | iBeacon meets the entire definition of spyware. It's something that the user wouldn't approve of, that leaks out personal information to untrusted third parties, and it can't be shut off or removed, even when you know about it. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/01/ibeacon_shopkick_privacy_policies_for_location_tracking_apps_aren_t_clear.html?wpisrc=burger_bar | Jan 28 15:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.slate.com | iBeacon, Shopkick: Privacy policies for location-tracking apps aren’t clear enough. [ http://ur1.ca/gire2 ] | Jan 28 15:20 |
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| MinceR | any suggestions for a search engine that doesn't randomly discard letters from search terms when they feel like it? | Jan 28 16:37 |
| Sosumi | just read Dave Girard's mac pro review | Jan 28 17:10 |
| Sosumi | and I can't believe the guy is actually praising the thing | Jan 28 17:10 |
| Sosumi | crapple apologists everywhere | Jan 28 17:10 |
| Sosumi | only anandtech did it right, while sweeting it up a bit in order to not shut future review units sent in by crapple | Jan 28 17:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428231950013566976 | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ukraine http://t.co/rawyhoPTOe | Jan 28 17:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428232723988488193 | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules http://t.co/p8BbLT2IFs #censorship #europe | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> torrentfreak.com | ISPs No Longer Have to Block The Pirate Bay, Dutch Court Rules | TorrentFreak | Jan 28 17:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428233099714265088 | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Every censor says he/she/it does so for noble reasons, including security (children, adults, etc.) but it ends up suppressing opposition | Jan 28 17:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428246840677781504 | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Tuxera #GPL Violations Alleged http://t.co/ATDJHqMZPF #microsoft #swpats #patent #fsf #linux | Jan 28 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Tuxera GPL Violations Alleged | Techrights | Jan 28 17:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428253069961592835 | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Anti-GNU/Linux Agenda at ZDNet (Part of CBS) Noted Again http://t.co/NXwtjnHnvN #zdnet #cbs #cnet #gnu #linux #microsoft | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Anti-GNU/Linux Agenda at ZDNet (Part of CBS) Noted Again | Techrights | Jan 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428253387415883776 | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "ZDNet is a technology tabloid-like news sites whose writers have many conflicts of interest" http://t.co/xffqS65Bil #ZDNet | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Jan 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428260684368199680 | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Microsoft’s Role in Political and Industrial #Espionage Concealed http://t.co/bdo1fpmeEe for those who weren't sure http://t.co/fug0FsaCh0 | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Role in Political and Industrial Espionage Concealed | Techrights | Jan 28 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jan 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428263327270440960 | Jan 28 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA Watch: GCHQ/NSA Gang Up Against Servers, Hide Violations, Face Blowback http://t.co/FsVzDRR5JK nsa #fbi #gchq #surveillance #police | Jan 28 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | NSA Watch: GCHQ/NSA Gang Up Against Servers, Hide Violations, Face Blowback | Techrights | Jan 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428266666024501248 | Jan 28 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: News Snapshot: The Decline of Civility http://t.co/79uhh23LBd #police #humanrights #civilrights #techrights #uk #ukraine #us #turkey | Jan 28 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | News Snapshot: The Decline of Civility | Techrights | Jan 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428266666024501248 | Jan 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428279979055398912 | Jan 28 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NetNeutrality is Dead in the West. Now What? http://t.co/TBwRTnXjiy #uk #us #internet #web #censorship | Jan 28 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Net Neutrality is Dead in the West. Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428282665565839361 | Jan 28 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: DRM is Coming to the Web (as ‘Standard’). Now What? http://t.co/hTTPqfWM5v #drm #w3c #internet #web #eu #europe #dmca #copyright | Jan 28 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | DRM is Coming to the Web (as ‘Standard’). Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428291178896044032 | Jan 28 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Censorship Has Taken Over the Web. Now What? http://t.co/Ja4WUJO9xz #censorship #internet #www | Jan 28 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Censorship Has Taken Over the Web. Now What? | Techrights | Jan 28 17:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/d6iXWbTaZG | Jan 28 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gis5s | Jan 28 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 28 18:04 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 28 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Jan 28 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2Q8sKEwaTx | Jan 28 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gisfm | Jan 28 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Tux Machines | Jan 28 18:55 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Why doesn't signing up for Medicaid count as being insured when a person was not insured before they qualified for Medicaid? | Jan 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't understand. It's not good insurance, but it's better than nothing in the sense that diving into a pool of electric eels is better than nothing when you really need to go for a swim. | Jan 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Truth is that the reimbursement rates are so low that most of the doctors that take it are really third rate or outright committing fraud to get more money out of the program. It would have been better to expand Medicare. | Jan 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/06/why-is-russia-so-homophobic/276817/ | Jan 28 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theatlantic.com | Why Is Russia So Homophobic? - Olga Khazan - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gisyg ] | Jan 28 20:29 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3DFXGC8HPO5IU | Jan 28 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Bernie Sanders debating Michelle Bachman on CNN. [ http://ur1.ca/gitg4 ] | Jan 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid anti-vax/anti-science Fundie witch that screams over everyone else vs. The guy that should be our next president. | Jan 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | *grabs the popcorn* | Jan 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | It would be a mistake for India to sign off on the TPP in its current form. | Jan 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | It would be the medical and computing equivalent of bringing rabbits to Australia. | Jan 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing it will do for them is bleed them dry since almost all of the patents are owned by foreigners. | Jan 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it wouldn't be entirely unfair to call the TPP "patent colonization". | Jan 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Rich countries have ganged up to bleed other countries dry. It's definitely a big enough mistake to allow software-related patents in, but drug patents actually kill people. | Jan 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Scott's corruption, by itself, has cost Florida tax payers more than the combined fraud in all needs-based welfare, put together, several times over. | Jan 28 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost funny. | Jan 28 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Rick Scott is so corrupt, that he even has Republicans saying "Holy shit, this guy is corrupt!". | Jan 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 28 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was kind of pissed when it was MLK day and I couldn't even get a haircut because that was closed too. | Jan 28 22:32 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3568032 | Jan 29 02:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearancehttp://www.muktware.com/2014/01/first-samsung-tizen-smartphone-makes-appearance/20118 | Jan 29 02:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | First Samsung Tizen smartphone makes an appearance - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/giud2 ] | Jan 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | You missed a space before http:// …"77777" | Jan 29 02:07 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3566880 | Jan 29 02:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: 5 Bleeding Edge Linux Distributions that are Actually Stable http://www.linuxfederation.com/bleeding-edge-linux/ | Jan 29 02:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linuxfederation.com | Linux Federation | Linux For Everyone [ http://ur1.ca/giqfz ] | Jan 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | \o/ Sabayon \o/"77" | Jan 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/428304398930808834 | Jan 29 02:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz Thanks 4 tweet! The CryptoParty is part of a week long Free Software festival http://t.co/N6N2lk3FeJ #BitCoin #freeyourandroid | Jan 29 02:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> freeasinfreedom.org.uk | Free Software Festival – Manchester | FSFE - MCR | Jan 29 02:12 |
| ---nj3ma is now known as nj3ma_Zzz | Jan 29 02:13 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3568317 | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Sawant takes $40,000 of salary, rest goes to “Solidarity Fund” | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_edd5afd2153276d90bbc.jpg | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blog.seattlepi.com | Sawant takes $40,000 of salary, rest goes to “Solidarity Fund” - Strange Bedfellows — Politics News [ http://ur1.ca/giuhm ] | Jan 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sounds good." | Jan 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567998 | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Daily Russophobia from Michael Moron (former# CIA boss) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/27/sochi-olympics-the-most-dangerous-games-ever-ex-ci/ | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.washingtontimes.com | Sochi Olympics the ‘most dangerous’ games ever: ex-CIA boss - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/giqa4 ] | Jan 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Mike Morrell! :D" | Jan 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567859 | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Obama negotiates with his bosses (corporations) -- not people -- regarding #privacy http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/27/tech-giants-white-house-deal-surveillance-customer-data so epic. Funders decide. | Jan 29 02:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Tech giants reach White House deal on NSA surveillance of customer data | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/giuhq ] | Jan 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Walking dead tech giants." | Jan 29 02:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | No more subsidies from CIA? | Jan 29 02:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "^^ agree, the NSA has killed US tech industry as we know it. Only free software companies might survive and they too will have NSA's stink on them." | Jan 29 02:31 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428427815969882113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428428394720931840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428428964017999872 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428430908497334273 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428431609378123776 | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World’s Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away http://t.co/Uo3FvS9fNb wars over water to come | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thinkprogress.org | The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World's Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away | ThinkProgress | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ad networks are selling us out to the #nsa http://t.co/P4HjckJBpd http://t.co/Cgdx5osxyY | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.pcmag.com | Rovio Denies Providing User Data to Spy Agencies | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds firm calls for industry to respond to NSA spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "This app follows you while you shop—and it needs a clearer privacy policy." http://t.co/P3Z8V9cm3u #privacy | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.slate.com | iBeacon, Shopkick: Privacy policies for location-tracking apps aren’t clear enough. | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "media like to focus on the party lifestyles of the rich and glamorous" -Neelie on WEF http://t.co/inlgqeSxe7 she also attends Bilderberg | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ec.europa.eu | Ensuring Jobs for the Future - my blog from Davos - European Commission | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Linux is the only supported OS Intel has mentioned for either the original single-core Quark or the dual-core model" http://t.co/n8zYVBdrHw | Jan 29 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> linuxgizmos.com | Intel headgear to offer fast offline voice processing · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428432768201424896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428433567174385664 | Jan 29 02:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Upstart #SolidXK Distro Seeks First Business Customers http://t.co/ydRAWtUwgo "unofficial Linux Mint Debian Edition with KDE" | Jan 29 02:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | Upstart SolidXK Distro Seeks First Business Customers | Linux.com | Jan 29 02:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Android PCs and other Windows-alternative desktops are for real http://t.co/NT4EwdxsPo #android #linux | Jan 29 02:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | OwnCloud Documents to bring Open Document Format editing to private cloud | ZDNet | Jan 29 02:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428435301745590272 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428437164696031232 | Jan 29 03:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? http://t.co/Y2LRxCL6nC #mintlinux #gnu #linux | Jan 29 03:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> fossforce.com | Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? - FOSS Force | Jan 29 03:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Is Fry a closeted fan of Gates, or just a useful revisionist? http://t.co/sYCzkZCdlr that's how history is being warped.... | Jan 29 03:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: This time it's serious • The Register | Jan 29 03:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VA9DQXStEB | Jan 29 03:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This time it's serious http://t.co/4hs7nr7fmf | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giuph | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why Did Linux Mint Ax mintConstructor? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/J7KEi5DiFi | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupi | Jan 29 03:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Stephen Fry rewrites computer history again: This time it's serious | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/U0PbAnsidE | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupj | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run Linux on a Chromebook | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mVcMFNovni | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giupk | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | How to run Linux on a Chromebook | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428438684422393856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428439888829349888 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428440518457319424 | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking http://t.co/eXU7BpUn0f #dell #linux | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Even North #Korea Loves #Linux and Open Source http://t.co/1lrCS75YyG http://t.co/QJfjaf8cYE safe from NSA? | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> thevarguy.com | Even North Korea Loves Linux and Open Source | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | North Korea embraces Linux and Open Source | ITworld | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How to run Linux on a Chromebook http://t.co/ijGfkA3nUm #gnu #linux #chromebook | Jan 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | How to run Linux on a Chromebook | ITworld | Jan 29 03:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567818 | Jan 29 03:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR." (using sex in attempt to cause suicide) http://destee.com/index.php?threads/j-edgar-hoovers-letter-to-dr-martin-luther-king-jr.41917/ MLK died later | Jan 29 03:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> destee.com | J. EDGAR HOOVER'S LETTER TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. | Black People Meet | African Americans | Destee [ http://ur1.ca/giuqa ] | Jan 29 03:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "One of the assassins of Malcolm X, Talmadge Hayer, met with John Ali the night before Malcolm's assassination. John Ali was a high ranking member of the Nation of Islam and is now known to have been an FBI informant. He routinely fomented tension between Malcolm and other members of the NOI as well as between Malcolm and the leader of NOI, Elijah Muhammad." | Jan 29 03:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kanelsmak retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Embraces Cumulus Linux for Networking http://t.co/J7KEi5DiFi' | Jan 29 03:18 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567815 | Jan 29 03:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/27/leaking_smartphone_apps_nsa_gchq/ http://news.sky.com/story/1202083/angry-birds-nsa-and-gchq-harvest-apps-data http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/27/nsa-gchq-smartphone-app-angry-birds-personal-data | Jan 29 03:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Fancy a little kinky sex? GCHQ+NSA will know - thanks to ANGRY BIRDS • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/giuqc ] | Jan 29 03:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.sky.com | Angry Birds: NSA And GCHQ Harvest Apps Data [ http://ur1.ca/giuqd ] | Jan 29 03:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Angry Birds and 'leaky' phone apps targeted by NSA and GCHQ for user data | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gih28 ] | Jan 29 03:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "NSA cat is watching you, CodeHero." | Jan 29 03:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "It sure is Will, it sure is." | Jan 29 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "LOL, a little birdie told them." | Jan 29 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They probably have the best porn too. I wonder what they spend their day doing :P" | Jan 29 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3567864 | Jan 29 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CCTV Glasses are normalising the idea of invading people's homes, bathrooms etc. with connected, always-on cameras. Spooky stuff. | Jan 29 03:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Non free cameras are spooky." | Jan 29 03:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Esp. with wi-fi | Jan 29 03:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3564904 | Jan 29 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recent News About Free Software in Education | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Oh yes, thanks, I still have it online. I also have a few incomplete opinions up, such as why people should not use Bing, and how Bruce Byfield is an ass. I've been having more fun with model airplanes lately than I have tangling with jerks. Sooner or later, I have to finish writing that Bing essay. | Jan 29 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Recent News About Free Software in Education | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gikia ] | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | My IP address recently changed due to Mediacom failure. I try to keep that up to date on my diaspora, g+ and other pages. From there, you can navigate to where I'm trying to collect my opinion pages | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/rc_models/model_index.html | Jan 29 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | My RC Models [ http://ur1.ca/giur2 ] | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/people/0b0498e2475ba7a6 https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/about | Jan 29 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | plus.google.com | Will Hill - Información - Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/giur5 ] | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ugh! opinion pages and I still have it online were supposed to lead you to the relevant pages. I wonder how I typoed that." | Jan 29 03:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/ | Jan 29 03:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | Index of /photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/ [ http://ur1.ca/giure ] | Jan 29 03:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/ | Jan 29 03:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | 173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ] | Jan 29 03:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428446238074101760 | Jan 29 03:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why You Should Not Use Duck Duck Go http://t.co/u5AHlxT62l worth repeating because many fools on the Web promote it | Jan 29 03:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> tinyurl.com | NO TITLE | Jan 29 03:35 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428446540630605824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428447027639619584 | Jan 29 03:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers http://t.co/1RaPtB6meS #linux #virtualization | Jan 29 03:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers | Linux.com | Jan 29 03:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report http://t.co/jXVmGyUpRI hopefully #intel will abandon this world. #crime | Jan 29 03:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report - Muktware | Jan 29 03:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/upX4rPLwIX | Jan 29 03:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trippaers http://t.co/MemOK8XdVY | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Intel could abandon smartphone market: Report | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giuxx | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | OpenDaylight Developer Spotlight: Hugo Trippaers | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mIEV31BXEX | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giuxy | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 29 03:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2655425 | Jan 29 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gartner.com | Samsung Retains Position as the Top Global Semiconductor Customer in 2013, According to Gartner [ http://ur1.ca/giuy1 ] | Jan 29 03:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428448307950923776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428449606159306752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428451978851926016 | Jan 29 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 http://t.co/YdjxibtJCq #pcbsd #unix | Jan 29 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] My 10 Minute Experience With PC-BSD 10.0 | Jan 29 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #debian still debating init systems http://t.co/rimQr8rmdc | Jan 29 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Debian Init System Discussion Is Still Unsettled | Jan 29 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses https://t.co/23jpcb8bjH #holland #freedom | Jan 29 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses | Joinup | Jan 29 04:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428453074425098240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428458060810842113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428458459181625344 | Jan 29 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA industrial espionage http://t.co/XCobMPxzDl #machon on #espionage by #nsa | Jan 29 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | NSA industrial espionage - Using Our Intelligence | Jan 29 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: SUSE and Amazon, two companies that pay #microsoft for #linux have provide #nsa back doors, get together http://t.co/pNCjV44TBI | Jan 29 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ciol.com | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server now available on AWS GovCloud - CIOL | Jan 29 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? http://t.co/SHwY7ggapj #linux #arduino | Jan 29 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.drdobbs.com | Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Dr Dobb's | Jan 29 04:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428461304966565888 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428463140125556737 | Jan 29 04:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award http://t.co/bEuMiKme6N #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linux | Jan 29 04:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award | Jan 29 04:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Links 29/1/2014: Games http://t.co/JuwX0OH23L Applications http://t.co/OUcX2BbegC Instructionals http://t.co/0zFVNt70NR | Jan 29 04:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Games | Techrights | Jan 29 04:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Applications | Techrights | Jan 29 04:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Links 29/1/2014: Instructionals | Techrights | Jan 29 04:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/29/1273288/-GOP-Congressman-Threatens-to-Kill-Report-After-SOTU | Jan 29 04:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: GOP Congressman Threatens to Kill Reporter After SOTU (Video) [ http://ur1.ca/giv63 ] | Jan 29 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solution Award http://t.co/o2RjIdA9Er | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giv68 | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AAcWF2EgyH | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giv69 | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu’s Juju Wins the Best Cloud Automation Solution Award | Tux Machines | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/VQryKR0YdI | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giv6a | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/jg0uMWVm1P | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Galileo: The Slowest Fast Computer Around? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giv6b | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/ZxzfeAKrKy | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/giv6c | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 29 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428464738524475392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465029013577728 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465399253188608 | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Security experts explain how the NSA and GCHQ may be harvesting data from smartphone apps like Angry Birds" http://t.co/4yViyxCdA4 | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.telegraph.co.uk | How 'leaky' smartphone apps are sending your data to the NSA - Telegraph | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "U.S. president also called for patent reform" http://t.co/Y6Rb4eOoFd based on what #NSA 'reform' means, it's PR/public consent seeking | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.techworld.com | Obama touches on NSA reform in State of the Union address - Techworld.com | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NSA privacy fears driving business back to UK hosting providers http://t.co/9oeUnoxEaH oh, back to #gchq arms. #uk #FogComputing | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.computing.co.uk | NSA privacy fears driving business back to UK hosting providers - 28 Jan 2014 - Computing News | Jan 29 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428465948316946432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428466327561723904 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428466846636208128 | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The article from Computing mostly quotes Jones (whom I habitually speak to at the gym); but his firm uses Hyper-V (Trojan horse), Windows | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Tossing figures at the public without informing those whom the #nsa spies on is not "transparency", it's nonsense http://t.co/Q4HzkSbY0n | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | US Companies Allowed To Publish NSA Data Request Numbers | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #NSA scandal: Germans hold out for ‘change they can believe in’ http://t.co/8l3WFpgWiD #germany should grant #snowden permanent asylum | Jan 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> rt.com | NSA scandal: Germans hold out for ‘change they can believe in’ — RT Op-Edge | Jan 29 04:58 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428476880938074113 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428477042406227968 | Jan 29 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: NYT improperly redacted latest NSA leak doc, revealing name of agent and a target http://t.co/aMRxiNcmRX #nsa #nytimes | Jan 29 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.opednews.com | Article: NYT improperly redacted latest NSA leak doc, revealing name of agent and a target | OpEdNews | Jan 29 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: AT&T CEO: met European officials, NSA affair affecting business http://t.co/n4PI4BDchZ #europe #nsa | Jan 29 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> uk.reuters.com | AT&T CEO: met European officials, NSA affair affecting business | Reuters | Jan 29 05:38 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/court-orders-google-to-pay-1-36-of-adwords-revenue-for-infringing-patents/ | Jan 29 05:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Court: Google infringed patents, must pay 1.36 percent of AdWords revenue | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/givmd ] | Jan 29 05:52 |
| iophk | "Vringo also sued Microsoft over ads in its Bing search engine. Microsoft settled that case in May, agreeing to pay $1 million plus 5 percent of whatever Google ultimately pays." | Jan 29 05:53 |
| iophk | Fueling the attack on Google. | Jan 29 05:53 |
| gde33 | what is facinating about it is that google didn't update the advertisement, it was always the same old garbage. Now if they want to everything is patented. | Jan 29 05:59 |
| gde33 | it was very weird how they refused to update the cash cow | Jan 29 05:59 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite | Jan 29 06:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/givo5 ] | Jan 29 06:02 |
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| nj3ma2 | great news that | Jan 29 09:17 |
| nj3ma2 | gov.uk ditching m$ | Jan 29 09:17 |
| Sosumi | while they are at it, why not ditch the entire thing? | Jan 29 10:37 |
| iophk | It would be good if it happened, but they are still in the talking phase. | Jan 29 10:40 |
| iophk | They need to move quickly to avoid interference from M$ | Jan 29 10:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428524333284466688 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428522745601982464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428520358892044288 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428519647840043008 | Jan 29 10:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Exercising freedom https://t.co/uxvsUaPX6I use and defend your rights or lose them | Jan 29 10:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: On our necks https://t.co/S0aGBP6JNj #consumerism #debt | Jan 29 10:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Dodging espionage - new infographic https://t.co/NVL7XqeEHq the only way to go, safely | Jan 29 10:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Big win for Free software in the UK http://t.co/5yfr3KWUDS now they talk about it publicly | Jan 29 10:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428517939407749120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428516613160464384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428514179285540864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428513216751493120 | Jan 29 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: When papers did not report on readers https://t.co/kS9MuQhADr | Jan 29 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Facebook sends phone data to NSA and ads companies including Microsoft http://t.co/F2bUJantn9 | Jan 29 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Free surveillance https://t.co/BqyIcOi9is | Jan 29 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: A traitor to war http://t.co/Z5LcDQrod1 | Jan 29 10:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize | World news | theguardian.com | Jan 29 10:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | nj3ma2: thanks for the news! | Jan 29 10:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | We'll probably put in a bid :-) | Jan 29 10:50 |
| nj3ma2 | :-) | Jan 29 10:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will do an article about it later | Jan 29 10:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | like Munich, this could set off other govs on the same route | Jan 29 10:52 |
| iophk | Once there are a few, there will be a rush. | Jan 29 10:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Good for people who deploy and support foss, MS will surely try to bribe politicians to change course, but I doubt the bribe budget is enough after the NSA scandasls | Jan 29 10:53 |
| iophk | Didn't Spain go FOSS also? Extremadura comes to mind, but they've dropped out of the media. | Jan 29 10:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Some bribves budget was spent tryint o make OOXML/MS OFFICE looK like "standard" | Jan 29 10:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | brb | Jan 29 10:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Also snowden got nominated | Jan 29 10:54 |
| iophk | Bribes may need to be bigger now but there are still those that push M$ for ideological reasons. | Jan 29 10:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Today we got 7 good pieces of news here (personal stuff) | Jan 29 10:54 |
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| Sosumi | I actually think every government should have an IT department capable of rolling out their infrastructure without outside interference | Jan 29 11:03 |
| Sosumi | *own | Jan 29 11:03 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/428558452290781185 | Jan 29 11:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The #uk government's promise to move to Free/libre software and #odf does not seem like a PR ploy this time around. Will cover it later. | Jan 29 11:03 |
| Sosumi | well, at least, only relying on hardware vendors | Jan 29 11:03 |
| Sosumi | but doing the software in house based on foss | Jan 29 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570646 | Jan 29 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why You Should Not Use Duck Duck Go http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/ worth repeating because many fools on the Web promote it | Jan 29 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> 173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ] | Jan 29 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sorry, but a lot of this still doesn't make sense to me. This concludes with "If you are going to use a US based search engine, it might as well be Google." which is absolutely insane if you actually read the article. All of the reasons stated for not using DDG are equally applicable to Google so why use them as an argument against DDG and to use Google? It may be unfair to gain users through exploiting NSA stories, but Google is | Jan 29 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | still USA-based and just as susceptible to FISC orders. It seems like a wash either way." | Jan 29 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Using Google is not wise, I don't agree with this conclusion | Jan 29 11:04 |
| Sosumi | and properly tailoring their systems for the specific task they are performing | Jan 29 11:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If you are going to let yourself be spied on, you might as well get something out of it. DDG and many other search engines pollute their results with Bing, Microsoft's "Decision Engine" which is misleading on top of being spied on. Google's search results are still excellent. | Jan 29 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wish that I knew of an honest alternative that gave excellent results. That is changing through copyright/DMCA takedown censorship and other pressures, but at the time of writing, it was true. I wish that I knew if TOR or proxies would protect your privacy but I don't. These things were beyond the scope of my essay which was why you should not trust DDG. | Jan 29 11:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Jan 29 11:05 |
| nj3ma2 | some attempts at building a federated, distributed search engine have been made | Jan 29 11:09 |
| nj3ma2 | like you crawl your little corner of the web | Jan 29 11:10 |
| nj3ma2 | I crawl mine | Jan 29 11:10 |
| nj3ma2 | we join efforts | Jan 29 11:10 |
| nj3ma2 | not much success so far | Jan 29 11:10 |
| nj3ma2 | but worth the try | Jan 29 11:10 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/amd-reveals-its-first-arm-processor-8-core-opteron-a1100/ | Jan 29 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | AMD reveals its first ARM processor: 8-core Opteron A1100 | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gixcu ] | Jan 29 11:11 |
| iophk | nj3ma2: you mean like YaCy? | Jan 29 11:12 |
| Sosumi | good, but we need an actual alternative to intel | Jan 29 11:13 |
| iophk | Oracle could have run with Sparc instead of suffocating it. | Jan 29 11:13 |
| Sosumi | yes | Jan 29 11:13 |
| nj3ma2 | iophk: exactly | Jan 29 11:13 |
| Sosumi | and IBM could relaunch the intellistation | Jan 29 11:13 |
| iophk | IBM has put $1 billion into Power and has ditched x86 | Jan 29 11:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | no, IBM claims that | Jan 29 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the 1 billion figure | Jan 29 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | it's just marketing | Jan 29 11:14 |
| iophk | It was the number they cited. | Jan 29 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Big Blye tries hard to paint itself as a sysadmin's friend | Jan 29 11:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And this was in LinuxCon | Jan 29 11:14 |
| iophk | http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41926.wss | Jan 29 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www-03.ibm.com | IBM News room - 2013-09-17 IBM Commits $1 Billion to Fuel Linux and Open Source Innovation on Power Systems - United States [ http://ur1.ca/ghle2 ] | Jan 29 11:15 |
| iophk | The press release suggests the money will be spent on more than marketing. | Jan 29 11:16 |
| Sosumi | can't some pressure be put on them? | Jan 29 11:18 |
| Sosumi | or make them see that there is some demand for ppc based workstations? | Jan 29 11:19 |
| MinceR | bribes? PR? | Jan 29 11:19 |
| iophk | probably the former might work | Jan 29 11:19 |
| iophk | if big enough | Jan 29 11:19 |
| MinceR | i mean, what they spent the money on | Jan 29 11:19 |
| Sosumi | well, if you bribe me with a new intellistation | Jan 29 11:19 |
| Sosumi | I'll test it for free | Jan 29 11:20 |
| Sosumi | it work on both ways :) | Jan 29 11:20 |
| Sosumi | *works | Jan 29 11:20 |
| iophk | :) | Jan 29 11:20 |
| MinceR | the usual deal is 'you give me a new product and i write a 100% positive review about it' | Jan 29 11:21 |
| MinceR | so what you're offering is inferior :> | Jan 29 11:21 |
| Sosumi | only apple does that | Jan 29 11:22 |
| Sosumi | and they don't even need to employ trolls like M$ or EA does | Jan 29 11:23 |
| Sosumi | the cultists do it for them | Jan 29 11:23 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | [16:16] <iophk> The press release suggests the money will be spent on more than marketing. | Jan 29 11:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | That;s not what I was saying | Jan 29 11:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The numbers are marketing, not the spendings | Jan 29 11:38 |
| iophk | ok | Jan 29 11:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wrote two articles about it at the time | Jan 29 11:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I wrote many pieces criticising IBM too | Jan 29 11:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | last one was 2 days ago, re NSA collab | Jan 29 11:38 |
| iophk | I recall that one. | Jan 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They also spoke to me on the phone when I confronted them | Jan 29 11:40 |
| iophk | Did they say much of interest? | Jan 29 11:41 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yuppie Nuremberg defence | Jan 29 11:44 |
| iophk | Not much of a surprise. | Jan 29 11:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They are quite pretentious | Jan 29 11:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | A lot of the management is in NY and NJ area, so enough said... | Jan 29 11:47 |
| iophk | They were used to selling based on just the name for a very long time. | Jan 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | yeah, rightly perhaps | Jan 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think they're very expensive now | Jan 29 11:51 |
| iophk | They were expensive then too. | Jan 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and with outsourcing and all I'm not sure how good they and other multinationals are ATM | Jan 29 11:51 |
| iophk | Tech people used to be really upset with the, but at the same time management fawned over them. | Jan 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The bank I left replaced senior staff with kids | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and the service was shut | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | *shit | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Today i spoke to an old lady, my mom's age, at a building society | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | we are moving our savings there | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | She was so much kinder than all those who are selected probably because they're paid less | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | IBM has done this for years | Jan 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cringley posted many good articles about it in 2012 | Jan 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I think it is based on people feeding him info | Jan 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | he really nailed it into IBM | Jan 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428570991166361601 | Jan 29 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Now it can be tracked by the #NSA easier. :D | Jan 29 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Space Hulk released for Linux | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XvRa1w21to | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixnz | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD tries to kickstart ARM-for-servers | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ecosystem http://t.co/wK3t0SoWoK | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo0 | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Space Hulk released for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free software and ethical consumption | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AZyk1vMBCr | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | AMD tries to kickstart ARM-for-servers ecosystem | Tux Machines | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo1 | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Free software and ethical consumption | Tux Machines | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Java-based malware driving DDoS botnet infects | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows, Mac, Linux devices | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/pyPTLuRqLL | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo2 | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Java-based malware driving DDoS botnet infects Windows, Mac, Linux devices | Tux Machines | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Our Voice-Over-IP Phone System | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Mb1Ha8Fd5b | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gixo3 | Jan 29 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up Our Voice-Over-IP Phone System | Tux Machines | Jan 29 11:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570727 | Jan 29 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/dutch-city-ede-spends-92-percent-less-its-peers-software-licenses #holland #freedom | Jan 29 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Dutch city of Ede spends 92 percent less (!) than its peers on software licenses | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gixr1 ] | Jan 29 12:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So much for all that FUD from Microsoft ..."77" | Jan 29 12:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570869 | Jan 29 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Security experts explain how the NSA and GCHQ may be harvesting data from smartphone apps like Angry Birds" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/10601359/How-leaky-smartphone-apps-are-sending-your-data-to-the-NSA.html | Jan 29 12:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.telegraph.co.uk | How 'leaky' smartphone apps are sending your data to the NSA - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gixr3 ] | Jan 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Never liked that game anyway :P"77" | Jan 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | After finishing 3 of this series my wife and I got bored (Star Wars) | Jan 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | We finished Original, Seasons, and Rio. | Jan 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "autant que les lapins crétins. Parcontre j'aime Rayman" | Jan 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Je déteste Angry Brids! Je haie ses gros oiseaux dés le départ !!!" | Jan 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3570869 | Jan 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | autant que les lapins crétins. Parcontre j'aime Rayman"7" | Jan 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3571551 | Jan 29 12:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook sends phone data to NSA and ads companies including Microsoft http://i.imgur.com/qzKhTQI.png | Jan 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Holy moly, look at all the stuff demanded. Send email without you knowing it. Turn on your microphone, change your volume, read your address book again, turn on and off other applications, cover other applications up, read and write to your call log. That's about as complete control of your cell phone as can be imagined. Microsoft really hates email and loves to spam people with it."77" | Jan 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3571581 | Jan 29 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Big win for Free software in the UK http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/29/uk-government-plans-switch-to-open-source-from-microsoft-office-suite now they talk about it publicly | Jan 29 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/givo5 ] | Jan 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I'm not impressed. Timid talk about using "open source" has been going on for about a decade. Didn't BECTA say this kind of thing but then buy Microsoft over and over? In the mean time, whole branches of government in France, Germany and Italy moved to free software and dumped Windoze completely."77" | Jan 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Some parts of UK gov are already moving to FOSS, they just don't talk about it publicly | Jan 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | They learned from Bristol, Birmingham, Munich, etc. (retaliation, bribes, etc.) | Jan 29 12:17 |
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| iophk | Yeah, I forgot about BECTA. They talked about FOSS for a bit all the while appeasing M$ | Jan 29 12:50 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/becta-fails-the-open-source-test-3039256053/ | Jan 29 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Becta fails the open source test | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gixyo ] | Jan 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428584968025956352 | Jan 29 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @Morality124 @schestowitz apparently, but even so... | Jan 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428584738421350400 | Jan 29 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @glynmoody @schestowitz It's easy to live in a bubble it seems. | Jan 29 12:52 |
| schestowitz | re https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/428583663047962624 | Jan 29 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped - http://t.co/RP226F5klR wow, naive much? #privacy | Jan 29 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.cnet.com | Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped | Technically Incorrect - CNET News | Jan 29 12:52 |
| schestowitz | CNET | Jan 29 12:53 |
| schestowitz | CBS | Jan 29 12:53 |
| schestowitz | NSA boosters | Jan 29 12:53 |
| schestowitz | anyway, no point feeding it | Jan 29 12:53 |
| iophk | nah | Jan 29 12:53 |
| schestowitz | besides the point of really criticising this appealling oligacch. CNET *CBS) still grooming him and NSA... | Jan 29 12:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/tag/becta/ | Jan 29 12:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theopensourcerer.com | The Open Sourcerer » Becta [ http://ur1.ca/gixzc ] | Jan 29 12:54 |
| schestowitz | Like talking about Obama's swatting of a fly while on TV rather than swatting of thousands (humans) by drones | Jan 29 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Let's all dilute the news (CBS) by talking about the Brand ("Gates") and say something pointless about NSA... | Jan 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585470495162368 | Jan 29 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @glynmoody @schestowitz You think the NSA betrays him for the cooperation he has provided over the years? (Windows exploits et al.) | Jan 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585001748135936 | Jan 29 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: Rich bubble RT @glynmoody Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped - http://t.co/CpTpKFSxsa wow, naive much? #privacy @schestowitz | Jan 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428585470495162368 | Jan 29 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has rhe back doors, that's old news. Everything to distact from Davod now.... | Jan 29 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has the back doors, that's old news. Everything to distract from Davos now.... | Jan 29 12:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428584738421350400 | Jan 29 13:00 |
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| iophk | The petitions are getting treated as seriously by the public as by the administration: | Jan 29 13:35 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 29 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 29 13:35 |
| iophk | contrast | Jan 29 13:36 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-net-neutrality-open-internet-and-our-economy/rJrLRtkw | Jan 29 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Protect Net Neutrality, the Open Internet and Our Economy | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyb6 ] | Jan 29 13:36 |
| iophk | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-net-neutrality-directing-fcc-classify-internet-providers-common-carriers/5CWS1M4P | Jan 29 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Restore Net Neutrality By Directing the FCC to Classify Internet Providers as "Common Carriers". | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/ggira ] | Jan 29 13:37 |
| iophk | http://hub.coe.int/event-files/our-events/28-january-data-protection-day | Jan 29 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hub.coe.int | 28 January - Data Protection Day - Council of Europe [ http://ur1.ca/giyjk ] | Jan 29 14:17 |
| MinceR | 172245 < Sosumi> only apple does that | Jan 29 14:25 |
| MinceR | i've heard msft did it too | Jan 29 14:25 |
| MinceR | (especially when they tried to pit lipstick on vista) | Jan 29 14:25 |
| MinceR | s/pit/put/ | Jan 29 14:25 |
| Sosumi | talking of vista | Jan 29 14:29 |
| Sosumi | I wander on how easy it is to bypass the UAC | Jan 29 14:29 |
| MinceR | very easy, especially in vista7 | Jan 29 14:29 |
| MinceR | at least without any sp-s | Jan 29 14:29 |
| Sosumi | and how many users, stupidly, run windows with it disabled | Jan 29 14:30 |
| MinceR | you just name your executable so it's on m$'s list and ask for privileges | Jan 29 14:30 |
| MinceR | the list included things that would never need it, of course | Jan 29 14:30 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 29 14:33 |
| Sosumi | http://enenews.com/scientist-back-from-japan-ive-seen-data-showing-highest-radioactivity-levels-in-ocean-that-have-been-observed-recently-nhk-radioactive-waste-may-be-leaking-directly-from-the-buildings-not-j | Jan 29 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | enenews.com | Scientist back from Japan: I’ve seen data showing highest radioactivity levels in ocean that have been observed recently — NHK: Nuclear waste may be leaking “directly from buildings” not only going into groundwater via tunnels (VIDEOS) [ http://ur1.ca/giyqh ] | Jan 29 14:52 |
| Sosumi | http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/232-pat | Jan 29 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.turnerradionetwork.com | SURPRISE: You're Eating Fukushima Radiation and Bloody, Cancerous Tumors in Fish Contaminated By Radiation [ http://ur1.ca/giyqk ] | Jan 29 14:52 |
| Sosumi | can't check the validaty of the images, but I wouldn't be eating anything from the pacific anyways | Jan 29 14:53 |
| Sosumi | *validity | Jan 29 14:53 |
| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/apple-results-q4-wow-this-was-far-worse-than-i-thought.html | Jan 29 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Apple Results Q4 - Wow this was far worse than I thought... [ http://ur1.ca/giyzk ] | Jan 29 15:28 |
| iophk | "Yes it is now a fact, we've seen 'peak iPhone' in its market share - and now the iPhone will adjust gradually towards the historically consistent market share that the Macintosh has held in the PC market which will be single digits by the end of this decade definitely." | Jan 29 15:29 |
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| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/01/28/the-mad-strip-club-orwell-search-habits | Jan 29 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.madmagazine.com | The MAD Strip Club — Orwell: Search Habits | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/giz82 ] | Jan 29 15:58 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2545465/Forget-global-warming-worry-MAGNETOSPHERE-Earths-magnetic-field-collapsing-affect-climate-wipe-power-grids.html | Jan 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | Forget global warming, worry about the Earth's MAGNETOSPHERE | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/giz9d ] | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | been hearing that since 05 | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | no one cared | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | and no one still cares | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | lets just buy solar panels and windfarms | Jan 29 16:04 |
| Sosumi | and earth is still a closed system, yeah, solar activity, cosmic streams have no impact on weather | Jan 29 16:05 |
| Sosumi | and I'm not joking | Jan 29 16:06 |
| Sosumi | they actually said the "system", earth, behaved like that | Jan 29 16:07 |
| Sosumi | back when I was in the 10th grade and had biology | Jan 29 16:07 |
| Sosumi | which was also in 2005 | Jan 29 16:07 |
| Sosumi | of course some of us said that was wrong | Jan 29 16:08 |
| Sosumi | but nvm, if it was like that on the book | Jan 29 16:08 |
| Sosumi | then it must be true | Jan 29 16:08 |
| MinceR | http://www.exitmundi.nl/poleshift.htm | Jan 29 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.exitmundi.nl | Oh When The Poles Come Marching In | Jan 29 16:11 |
| Sosumi | just don't go outside | Jan 29 16:14 |
| Sosumi | and stay in places that you already know that can't penetrated by EMF radiation | Jan 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | aka if you can't get a cell phone signal | Jan 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | then it is safe | Jan 29 16:15 |
| MinceR | "just two things of which you must beware: / don't drink the water and don't breathe the air." | Jan 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | also, the sun might expand and engulf everything up to mars | Jan 29 16:17 |
| Sosumi | and we concerned about the poles | Jan 29 16:18 |
| MinceR | that will happen a tiny bit later | Jan 29 16:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 29 16:18 |
| Sosumi | and why shouldn't we also be concerned about the other poles | Jan 29 16:18 |
| MinceR | might as well say "who cares, entropy will be maxed out eventually. also, all particles will decay." | Jan 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | the West Pole and the East Pole? | Jan 29 16:19 |
| Sosumi | those are just a reference based to the south and north pole :P | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | I meant the polish | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | polish, poles, you know, basically the same thing | Jan 29 16:20 |
| Sosumi | http://www.totem-pole.net/images/totem_poles.jpg | Jan 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | well, not sure | Jan 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | i'm kinda worried about them | Jan 29 16:21 |
| Sosumi | if a totem pole falls and there's no one there to witness the fall | Jan 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | they seem to be fundifying themselves | Jan 29 16:21 |
| Sosumi | does it make a sound? | Jan 29 16:22 |
| MinceR | they've already banned abortion for religious reasons | Jan 29 16:22 |
| MinceR | some of their nazis seem to want to turn poland into hungary | Jan 29 16:22 |
| Sosumi | I'd be more concerned about their pension funds | Jan 29 16:22 |
| MinceR | well, if they follow the hungarian path then they won't have any pension funds | Jan 29 16:23 |
| Sosumi | and hungary is kind of sounding more like "u hungy"? | Jan 29 16:23 |
| Sosumi | oops | Jan 29 16:23 |
| Sosumi | "u hungry" | Jan 29 16:23 |
| MinceR | no, it's sounding more like a future depopulated zone | Jan 29 16:23 |
| Sosumi | kind of just like poortugal | Jan 29 16:24 |
| Sosumi | with the desertification of the interior | Jan 29 16:24 |
| Sosumi | and an abysmal natality rate | Jan 29 16:25 |
| Sosumi | that was already abysmal in 2004 | Jan 29 16:25 |
| MinceR | that's the one thing i don't mind | Jan 29 16:25 |
| MinceR | there are too many people around here anyway | Jan 29 16:25 |
| Sosumi | has become much worse after the 2008 "financial blowjob" | Jan 29 16:26 |
| Sosumi | well, but if we were to rebuild this nation | Jan 29 16:26 |
| Sosumi | we'd actually need some labor | Jan 29 16:27 |
| MinceR | people should realize that nations are irrelevant | Jan 29 16:27 |
| Sosumi | and the current population numbers, besides being mostly unqualified | Jan 29 16:27 |
| MinceR | or they could just kill each other over belonging to different "nations", that's fine too | Jan 29 16:27 |
| Sosumi | they're not enough | Jan 29 16:27 |
| Sosumi | yes, but even then we still need to manage this rectangle | Jan 29 16:28 |
| Sosumi | and you know, back in the days | Jan 29 16:28 |
| Sosumi | we left the rectangle because it wasn't enough | Jan 29 16:29 |
| Sosumi | at the present time | Jan 29 16:29 |
| Sosumi | the only way to make the rectangle profitable is to invest in high tech stuff and have it done here | Jan 29 16:29 |
| Sosumi | but meanwhile they are cutting scholarships and investment in education | Jan 29 16:29 |
| Sosumi | in order to appease speculators in the city of london and in wall st | Jan 29 16:30 |
| Sosumi | instead of doing what I've suggested | Jan 29 16:30 |
| Sosumi | and probably countless of others | Jan 29 16:30 |
| MinceR | still better than turning education into religious brainwashing in order to appease nazis | Jan 29 16:30 |
| Sosumi | including that guy Tsipras in greece | Jan 29 16:31 |
| Sosumi | ban derivatives and freeze the debt | Jan 29 16:31 |
| Sosumi | for as long as the crisis continues | Jan 29 16:31 |
| Sosumi | and have the ecb churn tranches of money for infrastructure building | Jan 29 16:32 |
| Sosumi | like high speed rails interconnecting all europe | Jan 29 16:32 |
| Sosumi | we kind of need a couple more dams in order to coupe with the dry seasons | Jan 29 16:33 |
| Sosumi | specially up the north | Jan 29 16:33 |
| Sosumi | and we actually need a new plan for the dams | Jan 29 16:34 |
| Sosumi | since the current one was conceived prior to 1975 | Jan 29 16:34 |
| Sosumi | and kind of hasn't received any update | Jan 29 16:34 |
| Sosumi | 1968 to be precise | Jan 29 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/9Vg4I650EY | Jan 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gizkd | Jan 29 16:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 29 16:50 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx98OTM0WM9LOK | Jan 29 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Chicago is being robbed by the company that it gave the privatization contract to run its parking meters. [ http://ur1.ca/gizxn ] | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://truth-out.org/news/item/21466-costs-of-privatization-hidden-in-plain-sight | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | The company that Chicago gave its parking meters to is suing them, claiming that the state needs to pay them money to compensate it for road repairs, which "cost the company money in lost parking meter fees". | Jan 29 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | truth-out.org | Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight [ http://ur1.ca/gizxt ] | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana is also being robbed by the company that Mitch Daniels sold the toll roads to. He gave them a 75 year contract in 2006, all of the money is gone, and the company is claiming that Indiana owes it money because it is getting less toll road fees than it thought it would when it signed the contract. | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Even without that, they would make more money in the 75 years than they paid for the contract. | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Privatization is often proposed by right-wing politicians who claim that it will save money. The companies that get the contracts almost never run things cheaper than the state was. The first thing that the toll road company did in Indiana was jack up the toll and stop maintaining the roads. They're full of potholes now, and the fee for driving on them has doubled. | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's Republicans passed a law that gives them a pass to drive on the toll road for free. Many Indiana House and Senate Democrats refused to use the pass, and kept paying the toll. | Jan 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | err ,city | Jan 29 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3LFQOMZNLVGFE | Jan 29 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Obama's high school pot dealer who he thanked for the 'good times' [ http://ur1.ca/gizyh ] | Jan 29 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | The majority of adults in the United States admit to having smoked pot at least once, and I'm sure the number rises even higher when you account for the ones that have and are lying about it. | Jan 29 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Recreational marijuana usage is not a scandal. Medicinal use is even less controversial. Please go back to the 1950s where the other right wing social beliefs are waiting for you. | Jan 29 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | The laws just need to catch up. The majority of American adults could have theoretically been imprisoned at some point under just this one law. | Jan 29 17:55 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Chik Fil Meh doles out free diabetes, obesity, heart disease, and colorectal cancer to stranded motorists. Stranded by *snort* three inches of *BWAHAHAHAAAAA* three inches of snow... *BAHAHAHAAAA!!!!* Sorry. | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | A snowstorm in the South is about as rare as a living brain cell in a room full of conservative Christians.... | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | How the hell do you get stuck in three inches of snow? | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Are you driving a Geo Metro? | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | A little bit of snow, and these southern fried morons are having pile ups and declaring emergencies and shutting down the roads. They need to drive in Indiana a couple of times. The roads don't get closed here until they actually become impassable. A couple of weeks ago, I was driving down a state highway in a white out blizzard where I could occasionally figure out what lane I was in, and I managed to make it about 40 miles each way without any | Jan 29 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | real trouble. | Jan 29 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Office out of office across the UK | Jan 29 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | government? http://t.co/7xQXERhyib | Jan 29 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj060 | Jan 29 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Office out of office across the UK government? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 18:36 |
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| DaemonFC | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 29 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 29 18:46 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 29 19:03 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 29 19:15 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Jan 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be fine with Obama if he still did smoke pot. | Jan 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | There are thousands of things that the FDA says are Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS, HEHEHE), that are not as safe as pot. | Jan 29 19:56 |
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| DaemonFC | I got my 28 cent refund check from the BMV this morning. | Jan 29 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | I just deposited it with my phone. :P | Jan 29 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/naturopathic-physicians-and-affordable-care-act | Jan 29 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | petitions.whitehouse.gov | Naturopathic Physicians and the Affordable Care Act | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/gj0sr ] | Jan 29 20:27 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | Jan 29 20:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Nothing in the ACA requires private insurers to cover "alternative medicine", and most of them don't cover it because they know it is worthless. | Jan 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I've never seen a health insurance policy that did cover it, except maybe some limited chiropractic coverage for lower back pain. | Jan 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Which is about the only thing that chiropractors are good for. | Jan 29 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines As free software users, we need to speak out | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | against the TPP http://t.co/FHlFdyxPSA | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj0u2 | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | As free software users, we need to speak out against the TPP | Tux Machines | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $3 billion: Confirmed http://t.co/KA6fDbCAlM | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj0u3 | Jan 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | I have a chiropractor that I see for lower back pain from time to time. | Jan 29 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $3 billion: Confirmed | Tux Machines | Jan 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | He was included in an insurance plan that I had when I worked at a warehouse. | Jan 29 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | It covered two visits per month for free, so I took them. | Jan 29 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4NzA | Jan 29 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Future Of Fedora Spins Is Questioned With Fedora.Next [ http://ur1.ca/gj0ug ] | Jan 29 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why having additional spins is controversial. | Jan 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | They're benign to anyone that wants a different spin. | Jan 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4Njk | Jan 29 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Radeon DRM Gets A Few More Fixes For Linux 3.14 [ http://ur1.ca/gj0ur ] | Jan 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | The kernel-side radeon support for the 6000 series and older is basically complete as of Linux 3.13. | Jan 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Aside from some bug fixes, there's not much more to be done in the kernel. | Jan 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | New versions of Mesa are the big performance wins now. | Jan 29 20:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android PCs finally destroy Windows on the | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop? http://t.co/f9RGqEoGfa | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b2 | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13 Gets Its First Update | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jZYV9npUgt | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b3 | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Homerun 1.2.0 http://t.co/MhJsDno4jg | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b4 | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Will Android PCs finally destroy Windows on the desktop? | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iaUovB6JeD | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13 Gets Its First Update | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b5 | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Homerun 1.2.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Firefox Add-ons for Social Media Junkies | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XfOFdgzTKH | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj1b6 | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.9 (Cinnamon edition) | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Best Firefox Add-ons for Social Media Junkies | Tux Machines | Jan 29 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I got my 28 cent refund check from the Indiana BMV settlement. | Jan 30 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Now if I could just find a time machine somewhere, I could go back to 1990 and get myself a Pepsi out of the vending machine. | Jan 30 01:34 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574500 | Jan 30 04:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Latest FOSS FUD Revolves Around Fakes and Bogus Arguments http://techrights.org/2014/01/29/foss-discredited-over-security/ | Jan 30 04:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | The Latest FOSS FUD Revolves Around Fakes and Bogus Arguments | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3fz ] | Jan 30 04:00 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's amazing how Microsoft recycles this trash for decades. They pour it on until people believe it. Fewer people believe it these days, I hope." | Jan 30 04:00 |
| iophk | It's also a distraction for the poor way that Windows manages software installation | Jan 30 04:00 |
| iophk | *from | Jan 30 04:00 |
| schestowitz__ | today is the last day we can migrare tux machines | Jan 30 04:08 |
| iophk | can it be done? | Jan 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I might have to extend no-ip | Jan 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz__ | 25 dollars | Jan 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz__ | the VM is not ready yet... | Jan 30 04:08 |
| iophk | oh | Jan 30 04:09 |
| schestowitz__ | yesterday tux machines got record traffic for ther month | Jan 30 04:09 |
| schestowitz__ | 107k hits for the day | Jan 30 04:10 |
| iophk | nice | Jan 30 04:10 |
| schestowitz__ | 96k pages | Jan 30 04:10 |
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| iophk | Approximately how many visitors from that? | Jan 30 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | 14k | Jan 30 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Review, Ubuntu Happenings, and Zorin | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS http://t.co/YN7KXuUMhX | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3mv | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Red Hat's Roger Egan Joined Docker | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/reePxBehHn | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Review, Ubuntu Happenings, and Zorin OS | Tux Machines | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3mx | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Why Red Hat's Roger Egan Joined Docker | Tux Machines | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Like Arduino? Miniaturize your project with | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TinyCircuits http://t.co/YHwy9XrHfD | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj3my | Jan 30 04:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Like Arduino? Miniaturize your project with TinyCircuits | Tux Machines | Jan 30 04:25 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573447 | Jan 30 04:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Heavily Taxed by #PatentTroll (Not a Real Company) That #Microsoft Gave Patents to http://techrights.org/2014/01/29/vringo-and-google/ #swpats #vringo | Jan 30 04:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "The US judicial and regulatory system is a bad joke. 1.36% of AdWord revenue is huge. That's on top of the endless Android lawsuits and regulatory scrutiny that Microsoft is miraculously able to push Google's way. I'm so ashamed of my government." | Jan 30 04:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Google Heavily Taxed by Patent Troll (Not a Real Company) That Microsoft Gave Patents to | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3np ] | Jan 30 04:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574576 | Jan 30 04:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Serious petitions like https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-net-neutrality-open-internet-and-our-economy/rJrLRtkw get discredited by nonsense and celebs https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL | Jan 30 04:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Protect Net Neutrality, the Open Internet and Our Economy | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyb6 ] | Jan 30 04:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Deport Justin Bieber and revoke his green card. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government [ http://ur1.ca/giyav ] | Jan 30 04:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "This whole site is a joke. They keep changing the rules to ensure nothing productive gets done." | Jan 30 04:33 |
| schestowitz__ | ""Serious petitions"? Please." | Jan 30 04:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "^lol'd" | Jan 30 04:34 |
| schestowitz__ | I agree, they dodge the people and their requests by upping limits. The whole thing is a farce like a ballot box, designed only to give the illusion that the government is serving people, not corporations and oligarchs | Jan 30 04:34 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574358 | Jan 30 04:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debunking charades http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/21529-a-silent-coup-jeremy-scahill-bob-herbert-on-corporate-military-interests-shaping-obamas-sotu | Jan 30 04:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | "A Silent Coup": Jeremy Scahill & Bob Herbert on Corporate, Military Interests Shaping Obama's SOTU [ http://ur1.ca/gj3p9 ] | Jan 30 04:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "I saw them on Democracy Now! this morning and their analysis of the President's SOTU was spot on." | Jan 30 04:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573204 | Jan 30 04:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Copyright Law Still All About #Protectionism , Needs Revision | Jan 30 04:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Copyright Law Still All About Protectionism, Needs Revision | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gj3pc ] | Jan 30 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "It has always been about protectionism." | Jan 30 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3572522 | Jan 30 04:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "If he wins, it will only contribute to the hollywoodization of the resistance... I had enough of prizes, heros, bad guys, good guys, donzels in distress and all that bullshit! The only thing I see is structures of power creating entertainment. I hope, if the time comes, that he deny the award... but i guess thats asking too much..." | Jan 30 04:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when a Chinese got a political Nobel peace prize? Well, the US is having a "China moment" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-29/snowden-nominated-by-norwegian-lawmakers-for-nobel-peace-prize.html | Jan 30 04:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.bloomberg.com | Snowden Gets Nobel Nomination as U.S. Pursues Trial - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/gj3pl ] | Jan 30 04:37 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: http://yle.fi/uutiset/crisis-hit_southern_europeans_try_their_luck_in_finland/6632002 | Jan 30 04:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yle.fi | Crisis-hit southern Europeans try their luck in Finland | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/gj3r8 ] | Jan 30 04:45 |
| iophk | Yeah, there are growing communities. | Jan 30 04:46 |
| iophk | Also in Sweden last year they took in around 50,000 of just refugees. That's a whole town | Jan 30 04:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574557 | Jan 30 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight http://truth-out.org/news/item/21466-costs-of-privatization-hidden-in-plain-sight | Jan 30 04:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Costs of Privatization Hidden in Plain Sight [ http://ur1.ca/gizxt ] | Jan 30 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Most of the cases of privatization that I have seen go very badly are concerning services for which there is not a reasonable way to opt out or to have competition. #Monopolies of any form breed #corruption, #exploitation, and tend to be #facist. In this particular instance, the deal should have been rejected entirely on the grounds that it could not be evaluated in the time provided. 686 pages of complex, dense legalese is | Jan 30 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | impossible to process in two days." | Jan 30 04:53 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3574236 | Jan 30 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Manufactured Nuclear Crisis http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/01/manufactured-crisis/ they also tried to manufacture gas attack crisis in #syria as they did in #iraq & #korea | Jan 30 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ipsnews.net | A Manufactured Nuclear Crisis - Inter Press Service [ http://ur1.ca/gj3ux ] | Jan 30 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "Meanwhile Fukushima, a real nuclear crisis, can't get arrested." | Jan 30 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3573997 | Jan 30 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: James Clapper calls for Snowden and 'accomplices' to return #NSA documents http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/james-clapper-condemns-snowden-senate-testimony he doesn't know how digital stuff works? | Jan 30 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | James Clapper calls for Snowden and 'accomplices' to return NSA documents | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gj3v9 ] | Jan 30 04:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "I call for Clapper to return the US Senate to a place of honesty (good luck) and to return the US to a country that follows it's own constitution (even better luck...)"" | Jan 30 04:54 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/30/arrest-of-charlie-shrem-shows-dangerously-repressive-u-s-police-system/ | Jan 30 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | Harassment Arrest Of Charlie Shrem Shows Dangerously Repressive U.S. Police System - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gj3yz ] | Jan 30 05:01 |
| iophk | bit of a misinterpretation of the GPL. It requires that the changes (freedom) be paid forward, not what this license does: | Jan 30 05:07 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/computer-hardware/open-compute-pushes-gpl-license-open-source-hardware-235205 | Jan 30 05:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Open Compute pushes GPL-like license for 'open source hardware' | Computer hardware - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj42t ] | Jan 30 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Standards and Open Source make a great | Jan 30 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pairing http://t.co/9Zwx74ISuI | Jan 30 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gj45e | Jan 30 05:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Open Standards and Open Source make a great pairing | Tux Machines | Jan 30 05:15 |
| schestowitz__ | This video has been banned in the UK | Jan 30 05:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84T2i5PCMxw | Jan 30 05:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Nice Way Code Think Horse - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gj465 ] | Jan 30 05:19 |
| schestowitz__ | When NSA buddy Microsoft accuses Google of being poor on privacy on British broadcast, then that's OK with ASA... | Jan 30 05:20 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/30/uk_picks_open_document_format_for_all_government_files/ | Jan 30 06:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.18.3 Release Allows the Use of | Jan 30 07:34 |
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| schestowitz__ | iophk: any followup on that? | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Other than the announcment? | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | i have another post coming, but no news really since yesterday | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | A bunch of us now work on getting Tuxera in the mud | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | On 01/29/2014 at 2:28 PM, "Bradley M. Kuhn" <compliance@sfconservancy.org> wrote: | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | rxrz, | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I appreciate that you have written to us rather than attempting to take | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | action yourself. While I know Snowden-like activities are popular these | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | days, I assure you that they only make it more difficult for Conservancy | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | to enforce the GPL. Specifically, the Samsung matter was more difficult | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and more time consuming for Conservancy to deal with because of the | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | "code leaks". Conservancy has very limited resources for GPL | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | enforcement, so I appreciate that you aren't making our job harder here | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | by contacting us early and discussing it before taking action. | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Meanwhile, I've read the materials that you shared with us. However, as | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | it stands, we cannot take action specifically because: | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | rxrz@hush.ai wrote at 01:23 (EST): | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | > Right now the original blob files have been removed from github by | Jan 30 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | > repository's maintainer | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | ... I can't witness any active distribution of this file at this time. | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't being distributed, but I need to | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | see it being distributed actively to take action here. More details | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | below: | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | If you could tell us what specific product this software appears in, we | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | can research further. The ideal would be to show us a publicly | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distributed firmware available online from the company who incorporated | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | this software in their product. Since that sometimes doesn't occur, the | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | next best thing is to give us the exact model of a product that you know | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | for sure contains this software. | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Please note that a "cease and desist" of a violation is a reasonable | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | response to resolve a GPL violation (even though it's not our preferred | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | solution). If Tuxera (and its downstreams) are no longer distributing | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | infringing software, the GPL violation is likely "resolved" -- at least | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | to a point whereby it'd be very difficult for us to take immediate | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | action (unless they violate the license again). | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Brad, meanwhile, if you have a direct interest in joining Conservancy's | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers, I can talk with you about | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | that. Your direct involvement would make it easier for us to take | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | action on this matter. However, we can admittedly take action, since | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | your work is part of a larger GPL'd whole work, which is copyrighted by | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | many people some of whom are already in the GPL Compliance Project for | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Linux Developers. Nevertheless, contact me on a separate thread if you | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | would like to join our compliance coalition. | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > I would like to request an official statement from a representative of | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > Tuxera concerning this particular driver and have the complete source | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > code for this product, since it has been distributed under GPL license | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > and is based on the driver taken from Linux kernel tree. | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't recommend that at this point. I don't yet see a clear chain of | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distribution that puts the binary in your hands completely | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | legitimately without any questions. The right next step is to figure | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | out what product this binary driver appeared in, and examine the | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | physical product and/or a firmware legitimately obtained from a | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | distributor to verify the violation. | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I look forward to your next correspondence. | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | -- | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Bradley M. Kuhn, Executive Director, Software Freedom Conservancy | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | (home of BusyBox, Samba, and the GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers) | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Jan 30 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575710 | Jan 30 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debian policy of no proprietary drivers is comprising convenience for freedom http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.762.8 been there before | Jan 30 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.goodbyemicrosoft.net | Debian 7: In Search of the Lost Driver - Goodbye, Microsoft® [ http://ur1.ca/gj4y1 ] | Jan 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "This, incidentally, is yet another example of why the most important tool for a Linux installation is a second computer, connected to the Internet. OR the most important tool for a GNU/Linux DEBIAN installation is a little search of supported drivers before install the new version/distro ... In the same time, Debian is known for this kind of "problem" which is not in fact if you know the Debian's policy. This is the same with | Jan 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Triskel, indeed. I could be more surprised if this kind of problem appeared with Ubuntu, Mint, Or Suse which include lot of non-free/proprietary drivers." | Jan 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't say that for you Roy, only for the author" | Jan 30 07:43 |
| iophk | schestowitz__: no followup yet on the ODF announcement, just that the Reg picked it up after the others | Jan 30 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of articles yesterday | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | latest on tuxera | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Hello, Bradley. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you, I appreciate the work you're doing as well. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The case with Samsung has proven to me that we cannot trust even to the largest corporations when it comes to | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | being compliant and respecting the effort of many developers who believe in and contribute to FOSS. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I hope you understand that many people including myself felt that it was a very serious violation of trust, no | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | matter under which conditions Samsung had to hide the original Linux code from us. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Not being public is a hard task for me, and I would like to tell you that I have my trust in you to contribute effort for handling this case. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The file is still available via that repo's history and in my forked repo right here: | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://github.com/rxrz/asuswrt-merlin/tree/master/release/src/router/tuxera/broadcom/hfsplus/kernel-module | Jan 30 08:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | github.com | asuswrt-merlin/release/src/router/tuxera/broadcom/hfsplus/kernel-module at master · rxrz/asuswrt-merlin · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/giucz ] | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Doesn't it matter that ASUS had this file in their development bundle? Tuxera had "HFS+ Embedded" available | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | since June '11 (https://web.archive.org/web/20110401000000*/http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-hfs-embedded) and it makes it more that 2 years from today's date. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | The driver's version which came out of Asus' tar is dated with Nov of '13, which makes it still about 2 years as this product has been available. I would say it's a small chance Tuxera "forgot" to put the proper license in there, an even smaller chance they haven't sold a single copy of this product in 3 years. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | web.archive.org | Internet Archive Wayback Machine [ http://ur1.ca/gj56w ] | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | To me it's a no-brainer: Tuxera's been selling this driver for years now, it's based on Brad Boyer's source code, they got caught (thanks to Asus). We've got a proof, that they've been selling a product which is a 90% result of hard work of people from our community. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I believe It is our common job to keep things right and fair. | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I do feel for Samsung being caught between two trains of M$'s patents and Linux' free license. But the fact that they've been selling a product based on code from Linux tree, for years, and not returning any money they literally stole from honest developers who contributed their free time to support FOSS and GPL, makes me feel quite bad. They didn't have to do that, but nobody forced them to use the code from the vfat driver as a | Jan 30 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | base. In the end they didn't pay any fines, they ended up being heroes by open-sourcing the driver. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I am 100% sure it is exactly the same case this time, except there were no patents involved. It never will be neither fair in case with exFat nor in case with HFS+ even if they give up the source to the product they most likely originally stole from Brad. None of us have money for a lawyer to sue violators of GPL and companies seem to be happy to abuse this fact. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | They won't pay anybody for stealing the product, even though they made a fortune out of it. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I have a small question: | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Let's imagine for a second they haven't used Brad's GPL'd source as a base for their product, but still sold an HFS+ driver written from scratch under GPL (even a single copy)... | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | can we require the source code legally from them? | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Speaking of Snowden's contribution to society, honestly, I lost the rest of my trust in proprietary software companies. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I am not surprised at all by Tuxera stealing code and selling as their own, I've been more surprised by Samsung being involved in the theft of vfat Linux code. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | My goal is to get the source to the complete Linux HFS+ driver. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I will get the proof of them selling this driver as a product in the past. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | -rxrz | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | P.S. | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Have a small question, off the record: why do companies get sued for let's say, using software they didn't purchase in their products, but when it comes down to selling products based on free software, in violation to GPL, companies don't get in trouble? It just feels wrong to me that we can only count on them to just release the source once they get caught and not pay any money they stole by using readily available open software? If | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | companies do not respect GPL and just do whatever they want then what's the point of having licenses at all? | Jan 30 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Jan 30 08:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://www.infoworld.com/d/security/filezilla-warns-of-large-malware-campaign-235227 http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/unauthorized-versions-filezilla-steal-data-circulation/ | Jan 30 09:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | FileZilla warns of large malware campaign | Security - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gj5ke ] | Jan 30 09:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.digitaltrends.com | File Stealing Version of FileZilla is Making Its Way Around Internet | Digital Trends [ http://ur1.ca/gj5kf ] | Jan 30 09:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Linux dominates the mobile market | Jan 30 10:04 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux dominates the mobile market | Tux Machines | Jan 30 10:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2 Brings OpenCL Calc, OOXML | Jan 30 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements http://t.co/Z2dT2xZOY2 | Jan 30 12:03 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.2 Brings OpenCL Calc, OOXML Improvements | Tux Machines | Jan 30 12:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Keep Tabs on Income and Expenses with My | Jan 30 12:44 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Keep Tabs on Income and Expenses with My Expenses for Android | Tux Machines | Jan 30 12:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/nn81/status/428958293130616832 | Jan 30 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nn81: The collection @schestowitz articles @black_duck_sw : http://t.co/TcpBG0xK0O True or Fiction? | Jan 30 13:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575935 | Jan 30 14:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Companies that use terms like "community manager" reveal their real attitude towards volunteers. Say "coordinator" or "leader", not manager | Jan 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Very true. Most of the community managers I've dealt with were less interested in listening and understanding than they were with having me swallow a set of talking points. They waste everyone's time. | Jan 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | After some thought, I like the term community representative and think that it's a legitimate thing to do. Communications manager, even that sounds like perception management. I agree with other people here that "leader" and "coordinator" also imply control or manipulation. Representative is an honest term and implies two way communication representing the company to the community and the community to the company. That's a valid and | Jan 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | useful specialization and division of labor. People busy coding need others who are good at listening to make sure everyone understands each other | Jan 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575935 | Jan 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "analogical to richard stallman's quote "open source is what the industry can accept but free is where they need to end up"" | Jan 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3575522 | Jan 30 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## This video has been banned in the UK | Jan 30 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.youtube.com | Nice Way Code Think Horse - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gj465 ] | Jan 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "Awesome! Here they shouldn't see deer..., a fellow cyclist found traps in the nearby forest where we cycle. And I don't think they were for bugs. :(" | Jan 30 14:33 |
| MinceR | geekings | Jan 30 14:40 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428987417475829761 | Jan 30 15:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Hard to say; "improved OOXML support" seems to be common phrase in LO changelogs. Almost like it's maintenance not enhancement | Jan 30 15:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/428990178984591360 | Jan 30 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Morality124: @schestowitz Microsoft Offers $100 Credit For People Who Trade In PS3 For Xbox One http://t.co/70Ucdyw9v2 via @consumerist | Jan 30 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> consumerist.com | Microsoft Offers $100 Credit For People Who Trade In PS3 For Xbox One – Consumerist | Jan 30 16:00 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3576348 | Jan 30 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: "Samsung shipped 320 million smart phones in 2013" http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/samsung-makes-eu-push-via-60-carphone-warehouse-samsung-exclusive-stores/20171 | Jan 30 16:15 |
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| schestowitz__ | "The Belgian phone companies Belgacom and Base will not be very happy when they get to know that. What other brands of smart phones will be left over for them to sell? Mobistar already has the exclusive deal to sell iPhones." | Jan 30 16:15 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-speeches.html | Jan 30 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fsf.org | Where in the world is Richard Stallman? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/kdjv ] | Jan 30 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 10, 2014 01:00 PM Helsinki, Finland Event "The Path to Digital Freedom" | Jan 30 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 11, 2014 01:00 PM Helsinki, Finland Event Richard Stallman to speak in Helsinki, Finland | Jan 30 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 20, 2014 07:00 PM New York, NY Event "A Free Digital Society" | Jan 30 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 30 16:44 |
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| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/google-sells-motorola-unit-to-lenovo-i-told-you-this-would-happen.html | Jan 31 02:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Google Sells Motorola Unit to Lenovo - I told you this would happen... [ http://ur1.ca/gjbcg ] | Jan 31 02:57 |
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| iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25961096 | Jan 31 03:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - EU group mulls 'remote car-stopping device' for police [ http://ur1.ca/gjbku ] | Jan 31 03:49 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/judge-understands-bittorrent-kills-mass-piracy-lawsuits-140130/ | Jan 31 04:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Judge Understands BitTorrent, Kills Mass Piracy Lawsuits | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gjbor ] | Jan 31 04:12 |
| iophk | http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/30/one-week-left-to-give-input-to-future-european-copyright-monopoly-law/ | Jan 31 04:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | falkvinge.net | One Week Left To Give Input To Future European Copyright Monopoly Law - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gjbov ] | Jan 31 04:13 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 31 05:38 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: hi | Jan 31 05:41 |
| schestowitz__ | morning, MinceR | Jan 31 05:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Just a quick question | Jan 31 05:41 |
| iophk | sure | Jan 31 05:41 |
| schestowitz__ | say you have site A with DNS pointing to X | Jan 31 05:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and site B with DNS pointing to Y | Jan 31 05:41 |
| schestowitz__ | when you move DNS from X to Y | Jan 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz__ | can you expect no downtime? | Jan 31 05:42 |
| iophk | I think so, but | Jan 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz__ | i see requests served OK, but it seems like some machines (esp. in our house) still go nowhere when looking up the address | Jan 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that nameserver migrations without downtimes are sometimes like that, but I want to be sure before we leave the house for 5 hours | Jan 31 05:43 |
| iophk | it looks like also a matter of changing authoritative name servers | Jan 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz__ | on the same network, the tablet reaches the old server | Jan 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz__ | And the phone and laptop reach nowhere | Jan 31 05:43 |
| iophk | It may be your cache | Jan 31 05:44 |
| iophk | On two networks, I get the new ip for the hostname | Jan 31 05:44 |
| iophk | lemme check one more... | Jan 31 05:44 |
| schestowitz__ | gotcha | Jan 31 05:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Is this host-level cache like /etc/hosts? | Jan 31 05:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Becfuse changing broewsers has no effect | Jan 31 05:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Wher eis DNS cache? | Jan 31 05:45 |
| iophk | The third one is ok. | Jan 31 05:46 |
| schestowitz__ | maybeit'a cached at the hub | Jan 31 05:46 |
| iophk | I'm not sure how it is all cached, if it is still looking for the old name server it will still get the old address. | Jan 31 05:46 |
| iophk | Which nameserver to use might be cached | Jan 31 05:46 |
| schestowitz__ | the problem is. it does not even connect to the old server, escept the tablet | Jan 31 05:47 |
| schestowitz__ | it accesses the old site | Jan 31 05:47 |
| schestowitz__ | the others get nowhere | Jan 31 05:47 |
| iophk | Did you get the old registrar to drop the name? | Jan 31 05:48 |
| schestowitz__ | nope. not afaik | Jan 31 05:48 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe it checks the IP against the DNS and finds a mismatcxh or something | Jan 31 05:48 |
| schestowitz__ | But it does seem to be working for everyone (so far as I know) except us | Jan 31 05:49 |
| iophk | might be two registrars fighting it out for the authoritative answer | Jan 31 05:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I'll try my web proxy | Jan 31 05:49 |
| iophk | what about setting the old registrar to point to the new, static ip? | Jan 31 05:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't know how to change registrars details in that way | Jan 31 05:50 |
| iophk | I'm getting the new ip on a 4th net, too. | Jan 31 05:51 |
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| schestowitz__ | it works from the proxy | Jan 31 05:52 |
| schestowitz__ | and pages load as I would hope, inc. sub-sections | Jan 31 05:52 |
| schestowitz__ | So I think it's safe to leave it at that and try access from home later on | Jan 31 05:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I have some posts to publish later, i tried to make almost 10 yesterday, I didn't sleep well because the moigration wasn't complete before 3am | Jan 31 05:53 |
| schestowitz__ | bbl | Jan 31 05:53 |
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| iophk | https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-free-speech/internet-you-know-and-love-danger | Jan 31 06:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.aclu.org | The Internet You Know and Love is in Danger | American Civil Liberties Union [ http://ur1.ca/gjcd2 ] | Jan 31 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alternet.org/economy/20-richest-americans-are-greedy-takers-not-inspirational-makers | Jan 31 06:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.alternet.org | The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gjchs ] | Jan 31 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: They included Bill Gates. | Jan 31 06:30 |
| iophk | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129544.500-why-you-should-care-about-the-end-of-net-neutrality.html | Jan 31 07:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.newscientist.com | Why you should care about the end of net neutrality - tech - 29 January 2014 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/gizfd ] | Jan 31 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/mate-makes-ubuntu-trusty-repo/19165 | Jan 31 08:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.muktware.com | MATE makes it to Ubuntu Trusty repo | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gjd65 ] | Jan 31 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like MATE is going to do OK. | Jan 31 08:37 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/p/3580968 | Jan 31 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joindiaspora.com | The "we are all i... | Jan 31 12:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3580968 | Jan 31 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "we are all in this together" propaganda ignores the fact that the rich increase their wealth at double-digit % per year, Queen has shares | Jan 31 12:24 |
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| iophk | Chinese new year today. | Jan 31 12:39 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://pod.asap-soft.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_f482f98798c9047e368a.jpg | Jan 31 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: yeah, no dragon dances here | Jan 31 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but about 10k lanterns around city centre | Jan 31 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | They probably bought them for like a pound each to appease the Chinese cpmmunity (we have Chinatown here) after the waste of money for Jan 1st | Jan 31 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday in Techrights http://t.co/EKcbhcJIOl | Jan 31 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjej3 | Jan 31 12:46 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3582549 | Jan 31 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' | Jan 31 13:06 |
| schestowitz__ | The 20 Richest Americans Are Greedy Takers — Not Inspirational 'Makers' http://www.alternet.org/economy/20-richest-americans-are-greedy-takers-not-inspirational-makers including the biggest thief who buys the press, Gates | Jan 31 13:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | iophk: thanks for the links | Jan 31 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I am catchingm up with lots from ysterday | Jan 31 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Professional Video Editor `Lightworks` 11.5 | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Goes Stable For Linux http://t.co/TwC5LuJvis | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjesc | Jan 31 13:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bigger, better, faster: LibreOffice 4.2 | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DuoNCVcAOM | Jan 31 13:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD’s first ARM processors to feature 8-core | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers http://t.co/5XMwYfIH2h | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjese | Jan 31 13:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android lose market share to other | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | versions of mobile Linux? | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/zOgc2uLwnR | Jan 31 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjesf | Jan 31 13:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It’s Not Just Android: 3 Upcoming Linux Mobile | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Operating Systems http://t.co/oYXA5dZoIx | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfd8 | Jan 31 14:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Kernel Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 13.10 | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/u3ilYKcr9U | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfd9 | Jan 31 14:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Moonlight: Yet Another Linux Desktop | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Environment http://t.co/WXq0fo2o08 | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfda | Jan 31 14:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Reaches Version | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.19.5 http://t.co/5pHzzQ9AUS | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfdb | Jan 31 14:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Pinguy OS 13.10 Beta 3 | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/S5rudmj65s | Jan 31 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfdc | Jan 31 14:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Video of the Week: Sailfish Mobile OS | Jan 31 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates http://t.co/aViRU540jy | Jan 31 15:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Pays To Sell GNU/Linux | Jan 31 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/m6W4jAVqEb | Jan 31 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjfl8 | Jan 31 15:30 |
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| DaemonFC | In the hospital, two 1 cent aspirins are $50 and a $1 bag of sterile saline IV solution is $800. | Jan 31 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 31 16:32 |
| abeNd-org | sick people = profit! | Jan 31 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3KBTKO4NALE1U | Jan 31 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana's Republicans sue to protect your right to be poisoned by mercury, because something something something economy. [ http://ur1.ca/gjg0w ] | Jan 31 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2014/01/30/indiana-biz-groups-challenge-epa-climate-change-rules/5061715/ | Jan 31 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana utility rates are expected to have a modest increase due to EPA regulations limiting mercury pollution. Indiana spewed about 46,000 pounds of mercury into the air last year. | Jan 31 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.indystar.com | Indiana biz groups challenge EPA climate change rules [ http://ur1.ca/gjg0x ] | Jan 31 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | It says that the EPA is accepting public comments. I asked them to finalize the new regulations and to please fight Indiana in court if they have to. | Jan 31 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | From the article: | Jan 31 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | "The increase includes the cost associated with taking mercury and other toxins out of power-plant emissions to meet new rules. (Indiana is among the states challenging those rules in federal court.) " | Jan 31 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Intel Galileo Walkthrough | Jan 31 16:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD Open-Source OS Comes to the PC-BSD | Jan 31 16:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A look at ROSA Fresh R2 LXDE Edition | Jan 31 16:54 |
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| MinceR | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10605328/EU-has-secret-plan-for-police-to-remote-stop-cars.html | Jan 31 17:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | EU has secret plan for police to 'remote stop' cars - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gjb7h ] | Jan 31 17:20 |
| *MinceR suggests remote detonation feature as well | Jan 31 17:20 | |
| gde33 | that was one of my many proposals to the EU | Jan 31 17:21 |
| gde33 | they did god know howmany of them, almost as if I wrote the whole agenda | Jan 31 17:22 |
| gde33 | lmao | Jan 31 17:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 17:22 |
| gde33 | lets not do car chases and stop cars | Jan 31 17:22 |
| gde33 | if you dont like it we can run you over or something equally appropriate | Jan 31 17:22 |
| MinceR | let's be very surprised when we find out that the primary targets of this will disable the "feature" in their cars | Jan 31 17:22 |
| gde33 | smashed by a train | Jan 31 17:22 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 17:22 |
| gde33 | not as easy as you think | Jan 31 17:23 |
| MinceR | also let's be very surprised when others exploit the feature against drivers and kill them or rob them | Jan 31 17:23 |
| MinceR | or both | Jan 31 17:23 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem to difficult -- remove, disconnect or isolate the antenna that receives the command | Jan 31 17:23 |
| gde33 | then you are going to use the road but ohh it is full of cars | Jan 31 17:24 |
| gde33 | what a bummer | Jan 31 17:24 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 17:24 |
| gde33 | MinceR: it will be annoying, that is the point | Jan 31 17:26 |
| MinceR | no, the point is that it will kill people they didn't want to keep | Jan 31 17:26 |
| MinceR | s/keep/kill/ | Jan 31 17:26 |
| MinceR | and that it will be exploited against people | Jan 31 17:26 |
| gde33 | sure it will | Jan 31 17:26 |
| MinceR | because a bunch of fascist idiots never think anything through | Jan 31 17:27 |
| MinceR | or they just don't care | Jan 31 17:27 |
| MinceR | it's not their life that's threatened after all | Jan 31 17:27 |
| MinceR | (or so they think) | Jan 31 17:27 |
| gde33 | you just need a transportation system that works | Jan 31 17:27 |
| gde33 | switching off the machines is part of that | Jan 31 17:28 |
| MinceR | that's what the ignition key/switch is for | Jan 31 17:28 |
| gde33 | I also proposed a speed limiter | Jan 31 17:28 |
| MinceR | another great idea | Jan 31 17:28 |
| MinceR | it's not like some accidents could be avoided by speeding away from the source of the danger | Jan 31 17:29 |
| gde33 | people have this idea that people working on roads have to get killed regularly | Jan 31 17:29 |
| MinceR | (and who cares anyway) | Jan 31 17:29 |
| MinceR | well, that explains these half-baked ideas, then | Jan 31 17:29 |
| gde33 | the max speed outside my house is 5 km/h there are no sidewalks | Jan 31 17:29 |
| gde33 | it even use to have speed bumps | Jan 31 17:30 |
| gde33 | hah | Jan 31 17:30 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they saved lots of money with no sidewalks | Jan 31 17:30 |
| MinceR | sidewalks are expensive stuff! | Jan 31 17:30 |
| gde33 | it is in the way the blocks are build | Jan 31 17:31 |
| MinceR | yes, "badly" | Jan 31 17:31 |
| gde33 | basically it is one big sidewalk | Jan 31 17:31 |
| gde33 | cars are suppose to drive walking speed to the parking | Jan 31 17:31 |
| MinceR | what are cars doing on it then? | Jan 31 17:31 |
| MinceR | cars don't belong on the sidewalk. | Jan 31 17:31 |
| gde33 | sure, but there are other areas with other speed limits that dont work either | Jan 31 17:31 |
| gde33 | the max is 120 on the highway, people drive 140 | Jan 31 17:32 |
| gde33 | you are very annoying if you drive 120 | Jan 31 17:32 |
| MinceR | most people can't handle driving | Jan 31 17:32 |
| MinceR | those who can't do it shouldn't be allowed to | Jan 31 17:32 |
| gde33 | then the whole train goes in front of the camera | Jan 31 17:32 |
| gde33 | and they all get tickets | Jan 31 17:32 |
| gde33 | it's a nonsense system | Jan 31 17:32 |
| MinceR | like, if they can't learn how to keep distance, they shouldn't get to drive | Jan 31 17:32 |
| MinceR | instead of endangering me | Jan 31 17:32 |
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| gde33 | you should be able to put the pedal to the mettal | Jan 31 17:33 |
| MinceR | if they can't learn how to use turn signals, they probably can't learn most of other things either | Jan 31 17:33 |
| MinceR | so, again, don't let them drive | Jan 31 17:33 |
| gde33 | drive max speed the whole time | Jan 31 17:33 |
| gde33 | corners to! | Jan 31 17:33 |
| gde33 | if the traffic light is red, the car slows down | Jan 31 17:33 |
| gde33 | not maybe | Jan 31 17:33 |
| gde33 | we are not just going to make it | Jan 31 17:33 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 17:33 |
| MinceR | if the traffic controller computer has a glitch, you die | Jan 31 17:34 |
| MinceR | fun times | Jan 31 17:34 |
| gde33 | maybe you should remember the whole drive by wire system is going to be implmeneted? | Jan 31 17:34 |
| MinceR | not immediately, of course | Jan 31 17:34 |
| MinceR | you get to suffer for a few hours, stuck in the car, slowly crushed to death | Jan 31 17:34 |
| gde33 | Rotterdam harbor has huge storage area where only robot trucks drive | Jan 31 17:34 |
| gde33 | nothing goes wrong | Jan 31 17:34 |
| MinceR | why do you want drive by wire? | Jan 31 17:34 |
| MinceR | are cars too reliable yet? | Jan 31 17:34 |
| gde33 | no they aren't | Jan 31 17:34 |
| gde33 | they are driven by idiots remember? | Jan 31 17:35 |
| MinceR | yup | Jan 31 17:35 |
| MinceR | that's the problem | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | you should stop blaming the idiots | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | that just makes you one of them lol | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | haha | Jan 31 17:35 |
| MinceR | you're not making sense | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | we need to make a good system for them | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | so that they can drive places without issues | Jan 31 17:35 |
| MinceR | we have one, it's called public transport | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | linux cars | Jan 31 17:35 |
| gde33 | public transport doesn't work | Jan 31 17:36 |
| MinceR | neither do idiots | Jan 31 17:36 |
| MinceR | and neither does the "i'll just push a few buttons randomly here on the remote control for that guy's car while he thinks he's driving it lol" | Jan 31 17:37 |
| gde33 | I do have real ideas how [public] transport should work | Jan 31 17:37 |
| MinceR | so do i | Jan 31 17:37 |
| gde33 | I'm just not going to propose those to the EU | Jan 31 17:37 |
| gde33 | they wouldnt understand | Jan 31 17:37 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 31 17:37 |
| MinceR | hungary is a pretty good example of how a public transport shouldn't and can't work, though | Jan 31 17:37 |
| gde33 | the point is that we already have robot cars here | Jan 31 17:37 |
| gde33 | many of them | Jan 31 17:37 |
| gde33 | since the 80's | Jan 31 17:38 |
| MinceR | in special environments, yes | Jan 31 17:38 |
| MinceR | not on general roads | Jan 31 17:38 |
| gde33 | it gets increasingly silly to have people crash themselves into annother for the greater good of transportation lol | Jan 31 17:38 |
| MinceR | not mixed with other modes of transport | Jan 31 17:38 |
| gde33 | sure they are | Jan 31 17:38 |
| MinceR | where? | Jan 31 17:38 |
| gde33 | they look like trucks with 2 behinds | Jan 31 17:38 |
| MinceR | never seen those | Jan 31 17:39 |
| gde33 | it is mostly pilots but it's done arround the world | Jan 31 17:39 |
| MinceR | airlines are very different | Jan 31 17:39 |
| MinceR | with all the space, you can offset them a lot more from each other (lanes too) | Jan 31 17:40 |
| MinceR | plus you don't get pedestrians, bikers, etc. | Jan 31 17:40 |
| MinceR | or crossing other modes of transport | Jan 31 17:40 |
| MinceR | also, you have an extra dimension to avoid conflicts | Jan 31 17:40 |
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| gde33 | fly by wire you mean? | Jan 31 17:41 |
| MinceR | and afaik pretty much all the planes are involved in traffic control | Jan 31 17:41 |
| MinceR | no, i mean autopilot and such | Jan 31 17:41 |
| MinceR | also, afaik traffic control isn't automatic either | Jan 31 17:41 |
| gde33 | they are working on the fliying civilian | Jan 31 17:41 |
| gde33 | the goal is cars that fly with roads in the sky | Jan 31 17:41 |
| gde33 | and fly by wire | Jan 31 17:41 |
| gde33 | so there is a kind of road in the sky | Jan 31 17:42 |
| MinceR | it's a goal, not something that's already implemented | Jan 31 17:42 |
| gde33 | here it is a goal | Jan 31 17:42 |
| gde33 | there are pilots | Jan 31 17:42 |
| MinceR | afaik fly-by-wire is merely controlling the control surfaces indirectly, though a computer | Jan 31 17:42 |
| gde33 | sure, it is very simple | Jan 31 17:42 |
| gde33 | the robot driver will just use many perhaps terrible systems side by side | Jan 31 17:43 |
| gde33 | like follow the white line | Jan 31 17:43 |
| MinceR | which is not what i'm looking for when the danger is that m$ will manage to infest these systems with their crapware | Jan 31 17:43 |
| gde33 | amazon uses robots in their warehouse | Jan 31 17:43 |
| gde33 | lol http://www.icona.nl/berlioz/fotos/DSC00168p.jpg | Jan 31 17:43 |
| MinceR | they've already infested systems that can distract the driver or even make it impossible for them to see what they're doing | Jan 31 17:43 |
| MinceR | the warehouse is a strictly controlled environment | Jan 31 17:44 |
| MinceR | the street isn't | Jan 31 17:44 |
| gde33 | a crane like on the left in the picture could easily build houses | Jan 31 17:44 |
| MinceR | and it won't wait for crossing pedestrians | Jan 31 17:44 |
| gde33 | the harbor is so controlled that if you walk on the road the trucks may all get a new planing. | Jan 31 17:45 |
| MinceR | actually it looks like it's driven by a human | Jan 31 17:45 |
| MinceR | it has a driver's cabin on the left | Jan 31 17:45 |
| gde33 | so you walk onto the road, there isn't a truck to be seen anywhee | Jan 31 17:45 |
| gde33 | but they are all planning how to avoid you | Jan 31 17:45 |
| gde33 | if there is any object on the road it deploys people to go check it out | Jan 31 17:46 |
| gde33 | all alarms go off if it isn't just perfect | Jan 31 17:47 |
| gde33 | the place also turns into a container madhouse if it isn't just perfect | Jan 31 17:48 |
| gde33 | costs serious money | Jan 31 17:48 |
| MinceR | and i suspect they don't often let people in it | Jan 31 17:48 |
| gde33 | microsoft people are stopped at the gate | Jan 31 17:48 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 17:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | I punch in telephone numbers at random at the gas station. | Jan 31 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | The grocery store loyalty card customers usually don't redeem their gas points. | Jan 31 17:50 |
| gde33 | Dutch people never build anything that isn't going to work. If there is an inch of doubt they all run away, seriously. | Jan 31 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | So at the last day of the month, I go through until I find one with a lot of points, and then I use their gas points. | Jan 31 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to find a 40 cent per gallon one today. B-) | Jan 31 17:50 |
| gde33 | hah | Jan 31 17:51 |
| gde33 | here the suppermarket has a folder with the deals in it. | Jan 31 17:52 |
| gde33 | I dont use it but some people look at it as the adventure | Jan 31 17:54 |
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| gde33 | I think a delivery suppermarket with a fancy website could be much cheaper. | Jan 31 17:57 |
| gde33 | we could make it like world of warcraft | Jan 31 17:57 |
| gde33 | have people fight over their food deals | Jan 31 17:57 |
| gde33 | hardcore battles to the death | Jan 31 17:58 |
| MinceR | no need for a website to do that, black friday already works | Jan 31 17:58 |
| gde33 | not enough carnage | Jan 31 17:58 |
| MinceR | hand out chainsaws at the entrance, then | Jan 31 17:58 |
| gde33 | sell the store client for 300 euro | Jan 31 17:58 |
| MinceR | or just popularize the idea so clients will bring their own | Jan 31 17:58 |
| MinceR | or just raise the stakes and let them figure it out | Jan 31 17:59 |
| gde33 | the de-lux shop op and shop | Jan 31 17:59 |
| MinceR | maybe overpopulation will take care of it on its own | Jan 31 17:59 |
| gde33 | my most brutal marketing innovation was to do store storage in a display next to peoples bed. | Jan 31 17:59 |
| gde33 | this moment of natural zombie | Jan 31 18:00 |
| gde33 | pick your new boots? | Jan 31 18:00 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 18:00 |
| gde33 | space population | Jan 31 18:01 |
| MinceR | i don't think people need any help to make really stupid decisions | Jan 31 18:01 |
| gde33 | 200 years mars will be infested with humans | Jan 31 18:01 |
| MinceR | they do it on their own just fine, even when their own life is at stake | Jan 31 18:01 |
| MinceR | only if humanity survives that long | Jan 31 18:02 |
| MinceR | and doesn't blast itself back into the stone age, or mad max | Jan 31 18:02 |
| MinceR | or merely let the fundies take over to the point where they will no longer be able to figure out how to continue | Jan 31 18:02 |
| MinceR | and won't care anyway | Jan 31 18:03 |
| gde33 | my best EU proposal was to have banks put a donation button on their website | Jan 31 18:04 |
| gde33 | that would salve evrything | Jan 31 18:04 |
| gde33 | we could all donate as much as we want to, as often as we like | Jan 31 18:04 |
| gde33 | ^^ | Jan 31 18:04 |
| MinceR | the hungarian government has already set up a system so you could donate to them | Jan 31 18:05 |
| gde33 | nice | Jan 31 18:05 |
| gde33 | One of my most popular ideas was the volentary tax system | Jan 31 18:05 |
| gde33 | it got support from all angles | Jan 31 18:05 |
| gde33 | the republican nazi completely agreed with the tree hugger SJF | Jan 31 18:06 |
| MinceR | also known as "charity"? :> | Jan 31 18:06 |
| gde33 | only now we call it government | Jan 31 18:06 |
| gde33 | imagine the fun we could have? | Jan 31 18:06 |
| gde33 | It would be public information | Jan 31 18:07 |
| gde33 | and we could of course refuse you services if you chose not to pay | Jan 31 18:07 |
| MinceR | isn't the current setup better? | Jan 31 18:08 |
| MinceR | where they just take the money away from you no matter what | Jan 31 18:08 |
| MinceR | and if you're in hungary, you'll either get nothing in exchange for it, or something so crap it might as well be nothing | Jan 31 18:09 |
| gde33 | no | Jan 31 18:09 |
| gde33 | the implication of just taking something from you would invetiably be people taking things from me | Jan 31 18:09 |
| MinceR | so? the zombies don't mind | Jan 31 18:09 |
| MinceR | here, at least | Jan 31 18:09 |
| gde33 | if I can talk you into just handing over your money | Jan 31 18:09 |
| gde33 | you are of course free to do that to me as well | Jan 31 18:09 |
| MinceR | governments all over the world have managed to talk people into such a one-way deal | Jan 31 18:09 |
| MinceR | see also the 'social contract' | Jan 31 18:10 |
| gde33 | could do both side by side in a transition | Jan 31 18:10 |
| gde33 | the deal was nesasary | Jan 31 18:11 |
| gde33 | we needed representation because we couldnt be all over the world at the same time | Jan 31 18:11 |
| gde33 | this is not true anymore, thats all that has changed | Jan 31 18:11 |
| MinceR | did we get representation? | Jan 31 18:11 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the nazis in fidesz don't represent me | Jan 31 18:12 |
| gde33 | I'm sure it worked at least for some people some day historically | Jan 31 18:12 |
| gde33 | lol | Jan 31 18:12 |
| gde33 | it was better than nothing at all | Jan 31 18:12 |
| gde33 | at least we got lies we could believe in for our vote | Jan 31 18:12 |
| MinceR | we always got lies we could believe in | Jan 31 18:12 |
| gde33 | as a kind of "pick your own branding" | Jan 31 18:12 |
| MinceR | that's what cults were for, too | Jan 31 18:12 |
| MinceR | still are | Jan 31 18:12 |
| gde33 | vote for whatever gets your electroytes going | Jan 31 18:13 |
| MinceR | it's got what plants crave? | Jan 31 18:13 |
| gde33 | :) | Jan 31 18:13 |
| gde33 | with volentary taxes the ideas would have to be proffitable | Jan 31 18:14 |
| gde33 | imagine that lol | Jan 31 18:14 |
| gde33 | we can build windmills and solar factories if it makes financial sense | Jan 31 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | I see those books on using Android devices, and I have to wonder who reads those, and did their parents have any children that lived? | Jan 31 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Learning how to tie your shoe laces is harder than learning Android for ****'s sake... *sigh* People...... | Jan 31 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why Sprint should have to level the rainforest to print out documentation for every single thing you want to do with your Android computer, which has access to the online manuals because it has a web browser. | Jan 31 18:16 |
| MinceR | they're always profitable | Jan 31 18:16 |
| MinceR | just not for you | Jan 31 18:16 |
| gde33 | the investor doesnt get paid? | Jan 31 18:17 |
| MinceR | depends | Jan 31 18:17 |
| gde33 | that nasa court case where they didnt look at the martian mushroom. | Jan 31 18:18 |
| MinceR | you won't live on words alone :> | Jan 31 18:18 |
| gde33 | the public paid for the pictures | Jan 31 18:18 |
| gde33 | we could put it in writing how and when they are going to be compensated | Jan 31 18:18 |
| gde33 | not unusual | Jan 31 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | I always laugh when I see those Consumer Cellular commercials. | Jan 31 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | "It has big buttons and no features!" | Jan 31 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, so, like Windows 8? | Jan 31 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | *rimshot* | Jan 31 18:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 31 18:22 |
| gde33 | with icons so that you dont have to remember how to read | Jan 31 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think they actually said "no confusing features". Windows has no features and manages to be extremely confusing. | Jan 31 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like, why does that tile desktop POS pop up randomly and why does their window manager switch between Firefox and Firefox Private Browsing windows so that you type what you're trying to put into the private browsing window into the non-private browsing window unless you happen to close the non-private window before you use the private one? | Jan 31 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | Window managers that consume 300+ MB of RAM and inexplicably switch between active windows need to be taken out back and given both barrels. | Jan 31 18:25 |
| MinceR | hypeOS has no features and manages to confuse its users and fans | Jan 31 18:25 |
| MinceR | (into believing that the hypePhone is a smartphone, for example) | Jan 31 18:25 |
| MinceR | also, inexplicably switching between active windows (or to nothing at all) is an old winblows feature, even xp had it | Jan 31 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry... Software companies that don't listen to their users, implement bloated things that are of questionable usefulness, change the user interface constantly and in inappropriate ways, and produce malfunctioning code are a nit of mine. | Jan 31 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | Thankfully, I don't have to use any Microsoft or Apple products on my computers. | Jan 31 18:27 |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8030564096/h47ACF287/ | Jan 31 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | The last time I actually read a manual on how to use an operating system was when I was about 9 years old and trying to use DOS.* | Jan 31 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I managed to hand edit my autoexec.bat and config.sys to use emm386.exe and himem.sys to free up enough conventional and extended memory to make Star Wars:X-Wing work because 640k was not enough for anyone. :/ | Jan 31 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_X-Wing | Jan 31 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | *(I guess you could count the odd glancing of manpages if you want to be dicky about it. Learning command switches and syntax is a little different than an iPhone user trying to figure out how to tap on an icon. Where do they dig these people up?) | Jan 31 18:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Star Wars: X-Wing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gjgmw ] | Jan 31 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's so complicated! TAP TAP TAP! I don't know how to use this thing. TAP TAP TAP! | Jan 31 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | ALL IS LOST! ALL IS LOST!!!!! | Jan 31 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | And now a public service message for crApple customers. | Jan 31 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Picard_ea1ccc_1947694.jpg | Jan 31 18:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 18:37 |
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| gde33 | tnwpwhd (Thats not what picard would have done) | Jan 31 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Picard would hit that, with an inverse tachyon beam. | Jan 31 18:39 |
| gde33 | I was just pondering how every notable nerd must have his inner picard one can address | Jan 31 18:40 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 31 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3VGIWV8L8YF53 | Jan 31 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Study finds that cough syrup is apparently useless for doing anything other than making sizzurp. [ http://ur1.ca/gjh32 ] | Jan 31 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when I had to go to the laundromat. | Jan 31 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's washer broke down and she had to go there recently. She complained about most of the machines being broken and/or filthy and getting gouged to do her laundry. | Jan 31 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I told her "Now you know why I was wearing the same clothes 4-5 times when I worked at Walmart. I got sick of putting $40 in their nasty ass machines every month!" | Jan 31 20:20 |
| gde33 | MinceR: but volentary taxes, imagine it, it would look something like kickstarter | Jan 31 20:30 |
| gde33 | every committee for it self | Jan 31 20:30 |
| gde33 | foreiners may pay taxes to :) | Jan 31 20:33 |
| gde33 | maybe all we need is some sort of wrapper for existing libraries :D | Jan 31 20:39 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2OUM898OYXKW6 | Jan 31 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Microsoft sues a company for exercising their rights under the first sale doctrine. [ http://ur1.ca/gjhge ] | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20140128/NEWS01/140128007/Microsoft-sues-Urbandale-company-over-alleged-counterfeit-software | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has sued a computer store that was selling refurbished laptops that came with a Windows Vista license, which had been re-imaged with the same version of Windows Vista that they came with. | Jan 31 21:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.press-citizen.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gjhgg ] | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft claims that exercising your rights under the First Sale Doctrine is "counterfeiting software". | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, everyone that is selling their old computer and keeps Windows on it for the next owner is doing the same thing that this company did. Microsoft says you have no right to do that, which flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent. (It's the same as selling a used book or a used CD, which is totally legal.) | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not suggesting that it's good to give someone else a copy of Windows. | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's better to give them software that respects their freedom, such as GNU/Linux. Nobody has ever been sued for "counterfeiting" GNU/Linux, because software counterfeiting is impossible, and everyone has the guaranteed right to share it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. | Jan 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that there isn't much (proprietary) software that the NSA hasn't bugged these days. | Jan 31 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Even Angry Birds is reporting to them about the user's activity! | Jan 31 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it when birds take a leak. It always happens right after you get out of the car wash... | Jan 31 21:47 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC: good link | Jan 31 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I will do an article about it tomorrow | Jan 31 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | [21:33] <DaemonFC> In the hospital, two 1 cent aspirins are $50 and a $1 bag of sterile saline IV solution is $800. | Jan 31 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow, welcome to USA | Jan 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Patricia says: | Jan 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft produces rubbish products and is a has-been dying company. This is one of their last gasps of frustration. If MS wins, I hope that more people switch to a Mac for their new computer. | Jan 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Apple software has most of the same problems regarding lack of user freedoms. | Jan 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | They haven't sued anyone for reselling their Mac that I am aware of, but they wouldn't need to. Software is kind of a hook for them to sell their expensive computers in the first place. | Jan 31 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Patricia says: | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Apple gives away its OS for free these days - you need to keep up. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [21:33] <abeNd-org> sick people = profit! | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They give it away gratis at the moment, but it does not give its users freedom. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 8.1 was also gratis, but did not give users freedom. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, every new version of either OS takes more freedom away from the user. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Not here, not yet, although the Tories try to make it so | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | So, why would I care about Microsoft threatening a company for distributing its software? | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Well, first, it threatens everyone who has purchased a license to use anything that is bound by copyright. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, it would not mean fewer copies of Windows in existence. Every user and company would simply stop reselling existing licenses, and pay Microsoft even more money for new licenses, which is worse than simply reselling an existing license, which would give them even more money to attack users and their freedom with more malicious products. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better if every copy of Windows was destroyed, but giving them more money for new licenses just makes two problems where there was only one problem before. It's counterproductive. | Jan 31 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | err, because it would | Jan 31 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Keep an eye on this case. It threatens the entire first sale doctrine. | Jan 31 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | Almost every time you give this Supreme Court another chance to fuck people over, it takes it. | Jan 31 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: Yeah. I had good insurance before I turned 18. | Jan 31 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, there was no PPACA, so you just lost your parents health insurance when you turned 18. | Jan 31 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's 26 now. | Jan 31 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, with a few minutes left on the clock, I hurried up and got a whole bunch of things taken care of. | Jan 31 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Within a year, I had sinus surgery, a tonsillectomy, all my wisdom teeth removed, etc. | Jan 31 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | I actually got all my wisdom teeth removed and then lost my dental AND heath insurance the very next day. | Jan 31 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | *health | Jan 31 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | And I was lucky I could get in at the last minute, because 12 years ago, it cost over $2,500 to get your wisdom teeth removed. | Jan 31 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | They weren't causing me a problem, yet, but I hurried up and got it done because there was no telling when it would be a problem and where I was going to find $2,500 at. | Jan 31 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | The pain medication they gave me didn't work, and the dentist would not speak to me, or call in a new prescription, because I was no longer insured. | Jan 31 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I basically spent the next week in terrible pain because I had no insurance and was recovering from surgery. | Jan 31 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: Don't get sick here. | Jan 31 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Get sick just about anywhere else in the developed world, but don't get sick here. | Jan 31 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx30JJNLCN4CUJM | Jan 31 22:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Christie asks for public's patience while he comes uo with new story [ http://ur1.ca/gjhm8 ] | Jan 31 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | "It wasn't me! It was the three chinned man! Oh ****!" | Jan 31 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Jan 31 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | The British have a right-wing government that is dealing with a legacy universal healthcare program that dates back to better days when people cared about each other, that they have to make fail, so they can have an excuse to privatize it. | Jan 31 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sort of like Republicans in the US and free public education. | Jan 31 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | First you have to make it fail. | Jan 31 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then you scream "It's failing!". | Jan 31 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then you "fix it" (so that rich criminals can gorge themselves on the privatized inferior version). | Jan 31 23:13 |
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| ldk | https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/429287813066944512 | Feb 01 02:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @matthew_d_green: "Anonymity is the enemy of privacy" says RSA head, with an (apparently) straight face. This stuff is gold. http://t.co/sY2yLvOjTp | Feb 01 02:07 |
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| Sosumi | tell Patricia that crapple is a hardware manufacturer | Feb 01 05:13 |
| Sosumi | and their main revenue, if actually, all revenue comes from hardware | Feb 01 05:14 |
| Sosumi | that is why you have the computers they sell totally locked down | Feb 01 05:14 |
| Sosumi | simply because crapple isn't going to get your money if you keep updating you dear mac pro for 6 years | Feb 01 05:15 |
| Sosumi | specially when it comes to realms of graphics cards | Feb 01 05:16 |
| Sosumi | and if m$ is so crappy, why do you get much better drivers on windows (and linux) than on osx | Feb 01 05:16 |
| Sosumi | if m$ is so bad, why does xcode is a total letdown compared to VS? | Feb 01 05:17 |
| Sosumi | is crapple actually better? or just as bad as m$ | Feb 01 05:18 |
| Sosumi | my money is on the later | Feb 01 05:18 |
| Sosumi | surely the aluminum macbooks are kewl and everything | Feb 01 05:19 |
| Sosumi | but so are dell precisions and hp elitebooks | Feb 01 05:20 |
| Sosumi | and eclipse is free and better than both | Feb 01 05:22 |
| Sosumi | xcode and vs | Feb 01 05:23 |
| Sosumi | but, it has been known since forever that m$ doesn't want you to resell your already activated winblows license with a laptop | Feb 01 05:24 |
| Sosumi | even through | Feb 01 05:24 |
| Sosumi | the seller could claim | Feb 01 05:24 |
| Sosumi | that he's just reselling the laptop hardware wise | Feb 01 05:24 |
| Sosumi | and as for the included windows is just like "an ownership transfer" | Feb 01 05:25 |
| Sosumi | and that he's not charging for that | Feb 01 05:26 |
| Sosumi | and I hope that in each receipt he passed | Feb 01 05:27 |
| Sosumi | he never mentioned laptop with winblows vista | Feb 01 05:27 |
| Sosumi | because in that way he'll be screwed | Feb 01 05:28 |
| Sosumi | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfV5Z63CAAAWRlB.png:large | Feb 01 06:59 |
| Sosumi | no comment | Feb 01 06:59 |
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| iophk | Bruce's site has been down for at least a few days. | Feb 01 07:14 |
| iophk | http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html | Feb 01 07:14 |
| iophk | Also, he seems to have stopped with Lighttpd and moved to nginx. | Feb 01 07:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html ) | Feb 01 07:14 |
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| cubezzz | I'd never use an operating system without source code unless there was absolutely no other choice | Feb 01 07:51 |
| cubezzz | historically, Xenix was a giant step backwards from Unix v7 | Feb 01 07:52 |
| iophk | cubezzz: even this one? | Feb 01 07:52 |
| iophk | http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_every_mobile_phone | Feb 01 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.osnews.com | The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone [ http://ur1.ca/g1225 ] | Feb 01 07:52 |
| cubezzz | well, I never use mobile phones :) | Feb 01 07:52 |
| iophk | :) | Feb 01 07:52 |
| cubezzz | SunOS was similar, Sun took 4.3BSD and made it into a closed source OS | Feb 01 07:54 |
| cubezzz | two examples of going from open source to proprietary source | Feb 01 07:55 |
| cubezzz | after 1992 everything changed again, this time going in the opposite direction | Feb 01 07:55 |
| cubezzz | I hacked up a preliminary list of alternative operating systems: | Feb 01 08:02 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/alternative-os.txt | Feb 01 08:03 |
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| iophk | propaganda : http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/31/7-ways-microsoft-excel-could-change-the-world | Feb 01 08:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Seven ways Microsoft Excel could change the world | News | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjk9m ] | Feb 01 08:41 |
| iophk | and here : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/01/why-ditching-facebook-feels-like-opting-out-of-modern-life | Feb 01 08:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Why ditching Facebook feels like opting out of modern life | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjka6 ] | Feb 01 08:44 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/one-million-people-call-on-fcc-to-save-net-neutrality/ | Feb 01 08:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | One million people call on FCC to “save net neutrality” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkae ] | Feb 01 08:46 |
| Sosumi | since apple is so great | Feb 01 08:49 |
| Sosumi | to the point they can't even get their own stuff working properly | Feb 01 08:49 |
| Sosumi | http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/jan14/012414.html | Feb 01 08:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.xlr8yourmac.com | 1/24/2014 Late 2013 Mac Pro randcom crashes/restarts and sleep problems - xlr8yourmac.com [ http://ur1.ca/gjkax ] | Feb 01 08:49 |
| Sosumi | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1702539 | Feb 01 08:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forums.macrumors.com | Mac Pro 2013 6,1 Thunderbolt / Sleep /Wake Reboot Problem - Appreciate Help - MacRumors Forums [ http://ur1.ca/gjkay ] | Feb 01 08:49 |
| Sosumi | also, maya viewport gets worst results on osx than it gets on windows and on linux | Feb 01 08:50 |
| Sosumi | and that is with the amd cards used on the trashcan pro | Feb 01 08:50 |
| Sosumi | so Patricia is kind of being a crapple patrician | Feb 01 08:51 |
| Sosumi | and we all know moronic that kind of ppl can be | Feb 01 08:52 |
| cubezzz | haha, excel | Feb 01 08:56 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Feb 01 08:56 |
| cubezzz | DEC was more open source than Apple ever was | Feb 01 09:03 |
| cubezzz | even if only partially | Feb 01 09:03 |
| cubezzz | DEC let one have RT11 source code, plus tons of source code for some lanugages | Feb 01 09:04 |
| cubezzz | even IBM was better than Apple :) | Feb 01 09:04 |
| cubezzz | DEC was also better than Commodore, Atari and Radio Shack | Feb 01 09:05 |
| cubezzz | what good open source project did Commodore make? | Feb 01 09:06 |
| cubezzz | that's right... nothing :) | Feb 01 09:06 |
| cubezzz | A lot of the stuff that appeared on Fish disks was from the PDP-11 world | Feb 01 09:07 |
| cubezzz | at least DEC has DECUS, which goes all the way back to 1961 | Feb 01 09:09 |
| cubezzz | http://www.decuslib.com | Feb 01 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.decuslib.com | NO TITLE | Feb 01 09:10 |
| cubezzz | ok, so DEC is dead but there are still DECUS archives around | Feb 01 09:10 |
| cubezzz | what did Apple have in the past? | Feb 01 09:14 |
| cubezzz | they had Xenix on Lisa, and a bunch of closed source OSes | Feb 01 09:14 |
| cubezzz | I guess nothing has changed there | Feb 01 09:15 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ | Feb 01 09:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkgq ] | Feb 01 09:16 |
| Sosumi | crapple has no good open source project that I can name | Feb 01 09:17 |
| iophk | They've taken over CUPS | Feb 01 09:17 |
| Sosumi | and the stuff on macosforge/macports are kind of dead | Feb 01 09:18 |
| Sosumi | xquartz? lol, their new compiler? llvm/clang | Feb 01 09:19 |
| Sosumi | why would anyone use that anyways | Feb 01 09:19 |
| Sosumi | opendarwin? | Feb 01 09:20 |
| Sosumi | get freebsd instead | Feb 01 09:20 |
| Sosumi | so, when apple says in their propaganda that they are great open source contributors | Feb 01 09:20 |
| Sosumi | well that is a lie | Feb 01 09:20 |
| cubezzz | I heard that opendarwin was shut down quite a while ago | Feb 01 09:21 |
| cubezzz | 2006 I think? | Feb 01 09:21 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Feb 01 09:21 |
| Sosumi | but they still release darwin package | Feb 01 09:21 |
| Sosumi | *the | Feb 01 09:21 |
| Sosumi | another open source project from crapple | Feb 01 09:22 |
| Sosumi | web objects? | Feb 01 09:22 |
| cubezzz | so sure BSD is a good choice, openbsd, netbsd or freebsd | Feb 01 09:22 |
| Sosumi | deprecated and then "open sourced" | Feb 01 09:22 |
| cubezzz | I can write for BSD or Linux and it's easy enough to go from one to the other, usually | Feb 01 09:22 |
| Sosumi | shake, that composing suite that apple got when they bought nothing is real | Feb 01 09:23 |
| Sosumi | also deprecated, but never open sourced | Feb 01 09:23 |
| Sosumi | another open source project from them | Feb 01 09:25 |
| Sosumi | the apple lossless audio codec | Feb 01 09:25 |
| Sosumi | I wander why anyone would use that over flac | Feb 01 09:25 |
| Sosumi | or wav | Feb 01 09:25 |
| Sosumi | unless ofc you have an ipod or a hypephone | Feb 01 09:26 |
| cubezzz | really much of the hardware nowadays isn't too great | Feb 01 09:28 |
| iophk | wav can't handle metadata if I understand correctly. flac is the way to go. | Feb 01 09:28 |
| cubezzz | the basic program of closed source bios has not been addressed except: | Feb 01 09:28 |
| cubezzz | http://www.coreboot.org/Chromebooks | Feb 01 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.coreboot.org | Chromebooks - coreboot | Feb 01 09:28 |
| cubezzz | s/program/problem/ | Feb 01 09:29 |
| Sosumi | intel is charging more and more for their parts | Feb 01 09:29 |
| cubezzz | you can get a chromebook pretty cheap too | Feb 01 09:29 |
| Sosumi | even through they cost pocket change to produce | Feb 01 09:29 |
| Sosumi | chromebooks are kind of toy computers | Feb 01 09:30 |
| Sosumi | only that top of the line model google has is decent enough | Feb 01 09:30 |
| cubezzz | I'm all ears to hear about good alternatives :) | Feb 01 09:30 |
| Sosumi | plus I really have no need for a laptop | Feb 01 09:31 |
| Sosumi | so I kind of not keep on par with what is around | Feb 01 09:31 |
| Sosumi | but as for alternatives | Feb 01 09:32 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/NiCSTSF.jpg | Feb 01 09:32 |
| Sosumi | new intelistations please | Feb 01 09:32 |
| Sosumi | with ppc | Feb 01 09:32 |
| Sosumi | or sparcstations | Feb 01 09:33 |
| Sosumi | intel needs big competition on the high end segments | Feb 01 09:33 |
| Sosumi | otherwise they just charge an arm and a leg for their workstation parts | Feb 01 09:34 |
| iophk | Larry is helping his friend Bill by choking sparc. | Feb 01 09:34 |
| iophk | He could be making money on it otherwise. | Feb 01 09:34 |
| Sosumi | yep he could | Feb 01 09:42 |
| Sosumi | the big hope now is IBM | Feb 01 09:42 |
| Sosumi | since they sold the x86 business to lenovo | Feb 01 09:43 |
| Sosumi | now all they have left is power | Feb 01 09:43 |
| Sosumi | I really hope they don't confine it to just servers | Feb 01 09:43 |
| MinceR | i think they sold it because they don't want to do it | Feb 01 09:44 |
| Sosumi | they don't want to do it with x86 | Feb 01 09:45 |
| Sosumi | that was why they sold their business to lenovo | Feb 01 09:46 |
| Sosumi | and now since what they have left is ppc, they could leverage that architecture also outside servers | Feb 01 09:46 |
| Sosumi | and that means bringing back the intelistation | Feb 01 09:46 |
| Sosumi | which in the past, used the same power variant used by apple on the powermac | Feb 01 09:47 |
| iophk | it would be great if it meant some Power workstations or notebooks. | Feb 01 09:47 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Feb 01 09:50 |
| Sosumi | lets see how it'll be in a year from now | Feb 01 09:51 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/2014-the-year-america-ruined-the-internet-2014-2 | Feb 01 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | 2014: The Year America Broke The Internet - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjl1w ] | Feb 01 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: | Feb 01 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Hello, Bradley. | Feb 01 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Here I would like to present the proof of thfsplus.ko labeled as "GPL" while being sold along with products (NAS storages in this case): | Feb 01 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=89873 -> http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=396303#p396303 | Feb 01 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | It seems to me that Tuxera will at least have to open the code for the GPL product they sold. If it turns | Feb 01 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forum.qnap.com | QNAP NAS Community Forum • View topic - HFS+ module [ http://ur1.ca/gjl8b ] | Feb 01 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | out to be the case that they did with HFS+ what Samsung did with vfat.ko and exFAT, then it's up to Finnish | Feb 01 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | authorities to deal with Tuxera's actions. | Feb 01 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | forum.qnap.com | QNAP NAS Community Forum • Login [ http://ur1.ca/gjl8c ] | Feb 01 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Please feel free to forward the source code to me as an attachment in case Tuxera sends it to you via reply. | Feb 01 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Thank you. | Feb 01 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | -rxrz | Feb 01 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 11:29 |
| iophk | interesting | Feb 01 11:30 |
| schestowitz__ | release date drupal 8 is hard to figure out | Feb 01 11:32 |
| schestowitz__ | nobody gives even an estimate | Feb 01 11:32 |
| schestowitz__ | nut being slow to release is good for companie | Feb 01 11:32 |
| schestowitz__ | https://drupal.org/node/2133007 | Feb 01 11:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | drupal.org | when will drupal 8 release? | Drupal.org | Feb 01 11:32 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: maybe some Finns should liaise with rzrz | Feb 01 11:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she could use some help, with language, access etc. | Feb 01 11:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she's anon | Feb 01 11:33 |
| schestowitz__ | This is very effective | Feb 01 11:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she's effectively throwing patents on FSes like that down the drain | Feb 01 11:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and makes support for them possible without the red tapes, like patent payments of buying blobs | Feb 01 11:34 |
| schestowitz__ | This undermines Apple and Microsoft actions against Android, Tizen, etc. | Feb 01 11:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Drupal 8 | Feb 01 11:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 11:35 |
| schestowitz__ | ou can check the release cycle for Drupal 8 here: | Feb 01 11:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://drupal.org/core/release-cycle | Feb 01 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | drupal.org | Drupal core release cycle | Drupal.org | Feb 01 11:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Unfortunately there is no official release date yet. | Feb 01 11:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 01 11:35 |
| iophk | "The board requires you to be registered and logged in to view this forum." | Feb 01 11:39 |
| iophk | qnap | Feb 01 11:40 |
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| iophk | Txera are also bringing in sw patents through the back door by acting as if they are valid and paying/receiving money for them. That hurts the interests of the EU badly. | Feb 01 12:30 |
| iophk | That might not be directly affecting the HFS issue, but might be important anyway. | Feb 01 12:30 |
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| Sosumi | also new M$ CEO may be Satya Nadella | Feb 01 12:54 |
| Sosumi | a dude that has been already 20 years with M$ | Feb 01 12:54 |
| MinceR | androidauthority says it might be sundar pichai | Feb 01 12:55 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that would work | Feb 01 12:55 |
| Sosumi | and that probably belongs to the Balmer echo chamber | Feb 01 12:55 |
| Sosumi | all I know is that M$ | Feb 01 12:55 |
| Sosumi | needs a john sculley | Feb 01 12:56 |
| MinceR | m$ has performed an illegal operation and needs to be shut down | Feb 01 12:56 |
| Sosumi | and who else than a john sculley to wreck it to the ground? | Feb 01 12:57 |
| Sosumi | kind of like tim crook is already doing with crapple | Feb 01 12:57 |
| Sosumi | ios marketshare going down | Feb 01 12:57 |
| MinceR | tim crook should hurry up | Feb 01 12:58 |
| MinceR | crApple is still doing too much damage | Feb 01 12:58 |
| Sosumi | no exact direction on their products, outside of the ever increasing locked garden | Feb 01 12:58 |
| MinceR | which the cultists love | Feb 01 12:58 |
| MinceR | as always | Feb 01 12:58 |
| Sosumi | with the mac pro being the latest victim | Feb 01 12:58 |
| Sosumi | helvetica neue (lol= | Feb 01 12:58 |
| Sosumi | and just look at the iphone, it doesn't even feature a gorilla glass 3 screen cover | Feb 01 12:59 |
| Sosumi | even through it is the most expensive phone around | Feb 01 13:00 |
| MinceR | it also doesn't feature an open platform | Feb 01 13:01 |
| MinceR | or real multitasking | Feb 01 13:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea about the multitasking | Feb 01 13:01 |
| MinceR | the set of background tasks is predefined and requires special APIs | Feb 01 13:02 |
| MinceR | so less "multitasking" than in DOS | Feb 01 13:02 |
| MinceR | where you'd have to hook interrupts but could at least do what you wanted | Feb 01 13:02 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 01 13:03 |
| MinceR | oh, also no common filesystem | Feb 01 13:04 |
| Sosumi | yep | Feb 01 13:04 |
| Sosumi | they could just have built some sort of finder into it | Feb 01 13:05 |
| Sosumi | but no | Feb 01 13:05 |
| MinceR | there was some bullshit said about needing a file manager being bad or something | Feb 01 13:05 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585869 | Feb 01 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whitewashing the #fed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfV5Z63CAAAWRlB.png:large number cooking is not heroism, and economic gaps increase | Feb 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz__ | "Strangely, most of the sites I read would use the title "The Douche"..." | Feb 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585865 | Feb 01 13:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The site of Bruce Perens site has been down for at least a few days." -iophk http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html missing #technocrat | Feb 01 13:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://perens.com/works/articles/Economic.html ) | Feb 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "Site is up. It looks like a fresh Apache install or so." | Feb 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz__ | nginx | Feb 01 13:07 |
| iophk | content down, though technically the site is up | Feb 01 13:07 |
| Sosumi | no idea, but having an user exposed file system would mean that the user wouldn't need to reset the phone in case some app broke and you could no longer access it | Feb 01 13:07 |
| Sosumi | also, from what I heard | Feb 01 13:08 |
| iophk | It has been like that for a while. | Feb 01 13:08 |
| Sosumi | deleting an app | Feb 01 13:08 |
| Sosumi | doesn't remove everything pertaining to the said app | Feb 01 13:08 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk: not many people know about the siite | Feb 01 13:08 |
| schestowitz__ | let alone read it | Feb 01 13:08 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3585685 | Feb 01 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ #ubuntu #linux #steamos | Feb 01 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Linux on the NUC: Using Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and the SteamOS beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gjkgq ] | Feb 01 13:08 |
| schestowitz__ | "I kind of hate unetbootin. Never got it to work properly. That's probably just my fault though. SUSE Studio Imagewriter is the best, IMO. 'course, good old dd is nice too." | Feb 01 13:08 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-8-1-marketshare-set-to-overtake-windows-vista-desktop-marketshare/ | Feb 01 13:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.digitaltrends.com | Windows 8.1 Marketshare Right Behind Windows Vista | Digital Trends [ http://ur1.ca/gjlwq ] | Feb 01 13:20 |
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| Sosumi | lol | Feb 01 13:21 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/424172555961122816 | Feb 01 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thurrott: @quiggles It may not be selling as well as Vista. | Feb 01 13:22 |
| Sosumi | m$ went to the "trouble" (lol) of creating metro | Feb 01 13:26 |
| Sosumi | but things that could actually increase productivity | Feb 01 13:27 |
| Sosumi | like virtual desktops and "exposé" type features are non existent | Feb 01 13:27 |
| MinceR | even crApple's virtual desktop is crippled | Feb 01 13:32 |
| Sosumi | but at least they have one | Feb 01 13:58 |
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| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/philip-k-dick-predictions-2014-1 | Feb 01 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Philip K. Dick Predictions - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjm7a ] | Feb 01 14:12 |
| iophk | http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1027178.shtml | Feb 01 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.finfacts.ie | Foreign government requests Bermuda to investigate Microsoft's Irish-linked subsidiaries [ http://ur1.ca/gjm9y ] | Feb 01 14:22 |
| iophk | Thus the noise about the CEO choices. It buries the real news. | Feb 01 14:25 |
| iophk | http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3092/20140201/yahoo-plans-return-to-search-engine-roots-with-a-vengeance.htm | Feb 01 14:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techtimes.com | Yahoo plans return to search engine roots with a vengeance : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times [ http://ur1.ca/gjmcl ] | Feb 01 14:32 |
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| iophk | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140131/09523326059/david-cameron-says-snoopers-charter-is-necessary-because-fictional-crime-dramas-he-watches-prove-it.shtml | Feb 01 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | David Cameron Says Snooper's Charter Is Necessary Because Fictional Crime Dramas He Watches Prove It | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gjmhk ] | Feb 01 14:56 |
| iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25969918 | Feb 01 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - David Cameron wants fresh push on communications data [ http://ur1.ca/gjmij ] | Feb 01 15:01 |
| iophk | http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/Default/Latest-News/Article/Tax-probe-into-Bermuda-based-trio-of-Microsoft-linked-entities/-3/1297/74489 | Feb 01 15:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bermudasun.bm | Bermuda Sun: Tax probe into Bermuda based trio of Microsoft linked entities [ http://ur1.ca/gjmm1 ] | Feb 01 15:25 |
| iophk | What about that bribery scandal from last year? That too seems to have been brushed under the rug. | Feb 01 15:25 |
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| DaemonFC | http://action.usaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=605 | Feb 01 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | action.usaction.org | Sign our petition: America deserves a raise [ http://ur1.ca/gjnft ] | Feb 01 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, their "Law of Similars" is ridiculous pseudo-scientific garbage. It makes a ridiculous claim that water has a "memory" of everything it has been exposed to, that the effect on the human body of a substance is greater the more diluted it is, and that the substance in question will cure diseases that cause similar symptoms of the substance that is claimed to be the active ingredient in the homeopathic solution. (The hair of the dog | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | that bit you?)/ | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, there's no way to achieve the dilutions that they claim. One duck liver and heart would be more than enough to make all of the "Oscillococcinum" sold in the world (supposedly a flu remedy), and it would require more than 100 times more water than exists on the planet Earth to dilute it to the claimed dilution. | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Third, and purely ironic, the biggest company behind "homeopathic remedies" is a French company called Boiron, which rhymes with "Moron". | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Even though homeopathy is pseudo-scientific crap, it has a large base of followers, and you can find their little bottles of water and placebo pills at your local Walgreens. It's a multi-billion dollar per year business. | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | And on that note, I'm going to take a leak. Please enjoy drinking an 8C dilution of my urine. I hope it's refreshing. | Feb 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | If it cures anything, let me know. | Feb 01 17:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 17:27 |
| MinceR | "i got a homeopathic pill for my gullibility" | Feb 01 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it's a waste of money. | Feb 01 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's worse because you're not just wasting money, you're using placebo as an alternative to seeking medical attention. | Feb 01 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Governments seem to regard homeopathy as benign. | Feb 01 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | Heh. Oral B has decreased the prices of their electric toothbrushes, but slipped in a 25% price increase on the replacement heads. | Feb 01 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | time to balance the checkbook | Feb 01 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 01 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | pay off the credit card again and see how much I have left until payday | Feb 01 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Feb 01 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I used 356 GB of data last month | Feb 01 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | Well, my cable internet bill is up to $75. | Feb 01 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | If they're going to charge me for it, I might as well get my money's worth. | Feb 01 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | The city is now charging $5 for every bag of trash past two bags. | Feb 01 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | I pointed out to my mom that since they didn't specify what a "bag" meant, that she should get one of those 55 gallon trash cans and put that in her kitchen. | Feb 01 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | So she did. | Feb 01 18:40 |
| MinceR | we were forced into a trash management contract and we're forced to pay even if we don't live at that house and don't produce trash there | Feb 01 18:47 |
| MinceR | because this is hungary | Feb 01 18:47 |
| MinceR | asshole of europe | Feb 01 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Romney said he was frugal and in touch with American voters because he compacted his trash to save $5 a month and only uses gratis apps on his $800 iBad. | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Perhaps he also has a toothpaste squeezer in his bathroom. The world might never know. | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bet he got a great deal on his latest 11,000 square foot house, his several luxury cars, the car elevator... Maybe he even shops at Mens Wearhouse for his suits. You know that if you buy an $800 suite there, that sometimes they give you an extra one for only $100? | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bet he has plenty of tips for how people earning $8 an hour and no health insurance can live the high life. They just have to work even harder and eventually they'll "get what they deserve". | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, perhaps they will be working for $8.05 an hour this time next year if they behave. | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | errr, suit | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should walk in there like Sean Connery in Highlander. | Feb 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | "The gentleman would like a suit of clothes!" | Feb 01 18:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | I think that it's ridiculous to spend a lot of money on clothes. | Feb 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I usually wear t-shirts that I got in packs of four for about $10 and some jeans from kmart. | Feb 01 18:57 |
| MinceR | especially such impractical ones (suits) | Feb 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in compliance with the laws that state that public nudity is a crime. | Feb 01 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why I should spend more than I have to. | Feb 01 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 01 18:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 01 18:58 |
| MinceR | doesn't it get cold in indiana? :> | Feb 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know why I squeeze the toothpaste out of the tube. When I was at the post office one day, the thought occurred to me that Colgate had sent out a $1 off coupon in the junk mail that week, and Kroger had the toothpaste for $1 per 4.6 ounce tube. | Feb 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | So I fished all of the coupons out of the trash at the post office and bought over 100 tubes of toothpaste the next time I went to the store for milk and bread. | Feb 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | That was definitely one of my stranger shopping trips. | Feb 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | I did the same thing with Edge shave gel. I had dozens of $1 off coupons, and Kroger clearanced out the "sensitive skin" one for 88 cents, so I bought everything on the shelf, and then went into the back to use the restroom. On my way out, I looked for more unopened cases of it and found several of them, so I bought those too. | Feb 01 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | They paid me 22 cents per can. | Feb 01 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 01 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to find 52 cans of it in total. | Feb 01 19:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 01 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxUN0ZLH5THGBO | Feb 01 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: President Obama has issued fewer executive orders than any president since Grover Cleveland. [ http://ur1.ca/gjnz1 ] | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Which ones do right-wingers actually find controversial? | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Please list them and why you think each one is controversial. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | If you could also provide information about which sections of which orders violate any particular section of the constitution or the United States Code, please provide this information as well. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | If you need help, here's the entire list with links to the text of each order. There are 166 in total, and most of them make for some pretty dry reading. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders_13489_and_above | Feb 01 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | List of United States federal executive orders 13489 and above - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gjnz2 ] | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | My favorite was the one where he provided for an order of succession in the department of agriculture. | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Clearly, he's up to something.... *rolls eyes* | Feb 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Tyrone Slothrop says: | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's for when the Cylons attack! | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | By your command! | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Or the Daleks. | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | EXTERMINATE! | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Or the Cybermen. | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | DELETE! | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Or the Borg. | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | You will be assassinated. Resistance is futile. Your agricultural bureaucracy will be added to our own. | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, the possibilities really are endless. | Feb 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | assimilated | Feb 01 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | damn autocorrect | Feb 01 19:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 01 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | To be totally fair, federal agencies do tend to expand until there's nothing left that they don't do. | Feb 01 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | The department of agriculture even has rent subsidies and low interest mortgage programs for rural areas. | Feb 01 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Even though the Housing and Urban Development and Federal Housing Agencies do the same kind of stuff. | Feb 01 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | They all run their programs in rural areas. | Feb 01 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | What would be the harm in getting rid of the USDA and FHA rent and mortgage programs and giving them to HUD? | Feb 01 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | Would anyone notice? | Feb 01 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'll bet it would save billions of dollars. | Feb 01 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | There are several federal law enforcement agencies with overlapping mandates and jurisdiction. | Feb 01 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Would consolidating them all into the FBI save money? Probably. | Feb 01 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | The USDA, FDA, and Department of Education all regulate the school lunch program. | Feb 01 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Would picking one agency to run the school lunch program hurt anyone? | Feb 01 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | If you find anything the government does, you'll find three or four agencies and lots of duplications. | Feb 01 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | You could probably consolidate all of the agencies and all of their programs, fire thousands of bureaucrats and federal agents, and get the same stuff done. | Feb 01 19:39 |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 01 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Unchained Capitalism only knows two rules. | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Do anything that you can get away with to make more money, and let the buyer beware. | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | The system is unsustainable. The Republicans want that system, and most Democrats appear to want to give people just enough that they don't become angry and violent. | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Most Democrats want a system that curtails only the worst excesses of capitalism and saves it from itself. I don't think that's a good thing, but it's better than what the Republicans want to do. | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like to consider myself a Democrat, because the mainstream party is too far to the right, but I do vote for them because it's less bad than the worst thing that could happen. | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Romney is a product of a system that rewards people for taking advantage of others and living a parasitic lifestyle. His father was a job creator and a producer. Romney is just a business criminal and a thug that wears a suit and steals from people using legal methods. | Feb 01 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | And on that topic, I refuse to ever pay money for books with DRM, where the maker of the computer that reads them has a backdoor and a delete button with which to control what is on my device, and I can't "move them to a different shelf" (another type of computer). | Feb 01 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | If the publisher or Amazon threw a brick through the window of your living room and stole books from your bookshelf, that would be against the law. | Feb 01 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Why are they allowed to do the same thing and call it "Kindle Books"? | Feb 01 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Apple, Google, and Barnes & Noble do the same thing. I don't read books on my phone unless they have no DRM. | Feb 01 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 01 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast cold called me on my cell phone the other day offering to save me money. | Feb 01 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | By the time I got them to admit how much they were going to save me vs. my internet-only account, it was going to save me negative $120. | Feb 01 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | It included home phone service so that I could talk to other telemarketers. :) | Feb 01 20:58 |
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