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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kosovo_kosova/status/762059706428948480 | Aug 07 00:01 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kosovo_kosova: "@schestowitz: YOU are the #product: Company who Collects #Data on 'Every #American' https://t.co/5eFbOHq5ZN" #us #usa #america #landoffree | Aug 07 00:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Spying's New Frontier: Private Firm Collects Data on 'Every American Adult' | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community | Aug 07 00:01 | |
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| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > older: | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > https://blog.torproject.org/blog/breaking-through-censorship-barriers-even-when-tor-blocked | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.duffelblog.com/2016/08/debt-free-sergeant-loses-security-clearance/ | Aug 07 13:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.torproject.org | Breaking through censorship barriers, even when Tor is blocked | The Tor Blog [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sr ] | Aug 07 13:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.duffelblog.com | Debt-free, never-divorced staff sergeant loses security clearance [ http://ur1.ca/pk9ss ] | Aug 07 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | > satire -- for now | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fcc-official-most-americans-dont-care-about-prison-phone-exploitation | Aug 07 13:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | Americans Don't Care About Prison Phone Exploitation, Says FCC Official | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9su ] | Aug 07 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > " since November 2015, more than 100 stolen Chrysler SUVs were stolen | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > in this way, and driven across the border." | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/surveillance-video-showing-a-case-of-high-tech-grand-theft-auto | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > can't be fixed. needs TOTAL redesign of ALL systems in the vehicle | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wwmt.com | Surveillance video showing a case of high-tech grand theft auto | WWMT [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sv ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > "but 99.9 percent of consumers have no idea of their actual rights" | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > ... | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "it might be ripe for a class action" | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-xbox-one-s-still-uses-microsofts-illegal-warranty-void-if-removed-sticker | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "In May of this year, YouTube signed an EU code of conduct against hate | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | The Xbox One S Still Uses Microsoft's Illegal Warranty-Void-if-Removed Sticker | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sw ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > speech" | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/youtubes-trolls-leafyishere-are-crying-censorship-over-cyberbullying-rules | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | YouTube’s Trolls Are Crying Censorship Over Cyberbullying Rules | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sx ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > applied selectively, of course | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "[the posters] said that those women in J&K found riding two wheelers | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > would be burnt." | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.oneindia.com/india/how-mosques-j-k-are-used-spread-hatred-against-india-2174345.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.oneindia.com | How Mosques in J&K are used to spread hatred against India - Oneindia [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sy ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > usually it is just the sermons inside the mosque | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/05/professor-arabs-migrate-women/ | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.breitbart.com | Syrian Prof: Arabs Migrate for 'Sluts' and Welfare, Attack When They Don't Get It [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sz ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > about the same here and in DK unfortunately | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/05/bbc-to-deploy-detection-vans-to-snoop-on-internet-users/ | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | BBC to deploy detection vans to snoop on internet users [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t0 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-announce/2016/000502.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-announce/2016/000502.html ) | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/08/flint_lacks_water_treatment_st.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.mlive.com | Flint official says city lacks direction for water treatment | MLive.com [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t2 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.colorlines.com/articles/pittsburgh-joins-list-us-cities-lead-drinking-water | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.colorlines.com | Pittsburgh Joins the List of US Cities with Lead in Drinking Water | Colorlines [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t3 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2016/08/06/if_you_dont_fee.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | The Internet of Dildos Is Watching You | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t4 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > "Amid all the self-made myths about Donald Trump, none is more | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.advicegoddess.com | Advice Goddess Blog [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t5 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > fantastic than Trump the moneymaker..." | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > ... | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "This disconnect between the public’s perception of Mr. Trump as a | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > self-made mogul and the reality of his being a rich kid who lost other | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > people’s money and made far less for himself than he claims is still his | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > Achilles’ heel." | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/opinion/sunday/trump-the-bad-bad-businessman.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t7 ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://te-k.github.io/blog/2016/08/01/openssh-backdoor-used-on-compromised-linux-servers/ | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-te-k.github.io | Openssh backdoor used on compromised Linux servers · Tek [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t8 ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > "Kashmir has been claimed in its entirety by both India and Pakistan | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > since both countries achieved independence from Britain in 1947. Three | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > wars have been fought over the disputed territory. India controls about | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > two-thirds of the region and Pakistan about a third; China controls a | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > tiny part." | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/three-killed-indian-kashmir/494750/ | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theatlantic.com | Three more killed in Indian Kashmir clashes - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tb ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > transmigration is a problem there too | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dallasnews.com/investigations/watchdog/20160805-watchdog-dallas-woman-discovers-new-secret-service-sex-scandals-through-public-information-requests.ece | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dallasnews.com | Watchdog: Dallas woman discovers new Secret Service sex scandals through public information requests | Watchdog Column | DFW Investigations | Dave Lieber [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tc ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37000975 | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.bbc.com | Households could get fracking payments under government plans - BBC News | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > bribing to circumvent local councils | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > "Unfortunately, most people’s attention span started and ended with | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > just the clock incident. As if it happened a vacuum." | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > ..."Well, guess who’s been out to get the Mayor ever since?" | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/21/did-america-get-trolled-by-ahmed-and-his-clock/ | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/act-calls-government-support-open-source-software-ck-192644 | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-dailycaller.com | Did America Get Trolled By Ahmed And His Clock? | The Daily Caller [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tf ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > "Maybe after market entropizers aren’t the best solution. " | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/random-failures | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nbr.co.nz | ACT calls on government to support open source software | The National Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tg ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tedunangst.com | random failures [ http://ur1.ca/pk9th ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-chief-calls-national-talk-over-encryption-vs-safety-n624101 | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nbcnews.com | FBI Chief Calls for National Talk Over Encryption vs. Safety - NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tj ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | The Internet of Dildos Is Watching You | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t4 ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > invasive surveillance :P | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking | Aug 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz | > invasive surveillance :P | Aug 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz | You posted this link twice even. We found it funny here... | Aug 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7687307 | Aug 07 14:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@atomjack@diasp.org reshared: #Google slammed for removing #Palestine from its maps https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160804-google-slammed-for-removing-palestine-from-its-maps/ #israel #zionism #censorship #revisionism | Aug 07 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s shitty and I bet they provided the Israeli Occupation Forces with detailed keyhole strike maps on civilian infrastructure." | Aug 07 14:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.middleeastmonitor.com | Google slammed for removing Palestine from its maps – Middle East Monitor | Aug 07 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689012 | Aug 07 14:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@overnetbh@joindiaspora.com reshared: #microsoft loves #linux http://fossbytes.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-deletes-linux-dual-boot-partitions/ very much. | Aug 07 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | "What’s good for the goose? When I tried Ubuntu, it deleted my Windows partition, even though I told it not to. Though, perhaps Windows just deletes the partition table and you just need to reinstall GRUB." | Aug 07 14:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | Linux Users Claim That Windows 10 Anniversary Update Deletes Dual-boot Partitions [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z5 ] | Aug 07 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has enough programmers to know how to handle it better. Sabotage probably, not neglect. | Aug 07 14:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688245 | Aug 07 14:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@johnito@joindiaspora.com reshared: The IMF confesses it immolated Greece on behalf of the Eurogroup https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/yanis-varoufakis/imf-confesses-it-immolated-greece-on-behalf-of-eurogroup #imf #greece #liquidation #austerity | Aug 07 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | "oh really - as if we didn’t know this and are in shock and surprise???' | Aug 07 14:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.opendemocracy.net | The IMF confesses it immolated Greece on behalf of the Eurogroup | openDemocracy [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z8 ] | Aug 07 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | "lol" | Aug 07 14:29 |
| schestowitz | "immolated" | Aug 07 14:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689574 | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Btrfs scrub sometime recalculate wrong parity in raid5 https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org/msg55161.html maybe still premature to use it? | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | ":S - had a similar thouthgt about it lately ^^ since on my laptop i have no space left while having 20 gb space left… and cannot balance since there is no space left ( would have to add a stick or similar to the device and then balance) this kind of thing is not suposed to happen and obviously it happens quiet regular according to the mailing list THESE THIGS SHOULD BE DONE AUTOMATICALLY by the fs itself… we’ll see it will most likely | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mail-archive.com | [BUG] Btrfs scrub sometime recalculate wrong parity in raid5 [ http://ur1.ca/pka0r ] | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | get better… ^^" | Aug 07 14:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7686936 | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BerryLinux 1.23 をリリ http://berry-lab.net/berry.html new #gnu #linux release from #japan - based on #fedora | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | As a very good alternative I would consider Office from SoftMaker : | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> berry-lab.net | Berry Linux - Fast, Simple Linux | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.freeoffice.com/en/ | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.freeoffice.com | www.freeoffice.com - FreeOffice for Windows, Linux and Android | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.softmaker.com/en/softmaker-office | Aug 07 14:42 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.softmaker.com | www.softmaker.com - SoftMaker Office [ http://ur1.ca/pka0x ] | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | Right, but it's proprietary | Aug 07 14:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689111 | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best #Microsoft Office Alternatives 2016 http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/best-microsoft-office-alternatives anything that's #frees | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.laptopmag.com | Best Microsoft Office Alternatives 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/pka0y ] | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | "リリってリリースですか。 The Japanese language loves shortening words and phrases. One day I asked a high school students about something, and she referred to her school 鹿本高等学校 as 鹿校. I knew right away what she meant, but it made me smile." | Aug 07 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690278 | Aug 07 14:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A nation's well-being isn't to be judged by how many billionaires it has (at whose expense?) but by how it treats its most vulnerable | Aug 07 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | "So say we all." | Aug 07 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688086 | Aug 07 14:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Government must consider open-source software - ACT http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/5/259426 #freesw in #nz | Aug 07 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | "maybe government consider freesw bit someone buy votes… In Italy there are problems between Microsoft and public announcements" | Aug 07 14:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.voxy.co.nz | Government must consider open-source software - ACT | Voxy.co.nz | Aug 07 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | yes, I've noticed that | Aug 07 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7687070 | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GitHub Enterprise 2.7 -- a better way to commit to commits http://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/GitHub-Enterprise-27-a-better-way-to-commit-to-commits #git #freesw | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | "And how is GitHub free software? Can I install GitHub Enterprise on my own server?" | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.computerweekly.com | GitHub Enterprise 2.7 - a better way to commit to commits - Open Source Insider [ http://ur1.ca/pka19 ] | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | I filed this under "Proprietary" in my notes. But the haghtag refers to what's being hosted under GitHub. | Aug 07 14:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690196 | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For Decades, the #USDA Was Black Farmers’ Worst Enemy. Here’s How It Became an Ally http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/the-resurgence-of-black-farmers-20160708?utm_source=YTW&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20160708 now crushes whistleblowers | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | "The USDA actually funds co-ops now." | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.yesmagazine.org | For Decades, the USDA Was Black Farmers’ Worst Enemy. Here’s How It Became an Ally by Sylvia A. Harvey — YES! Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/pka1b ] | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | Good, maybe a face-saving strategy | Aug 07 14:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689576 | Aug 07 14:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook not only manipulated or made up what people wrote but also [Zucker]bragged about it https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/02/facebook-sorry-secret-psychological-experiment-users 'experiment' my arse | Aug 07 14:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Facebook sorry – almost – for secret psychological experiment on users | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pk0e3 ] | Aug 07 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Did they admit to forging personal communications? Their TOS demands the right to misrepresent people, but I did not see where they admitted to it to prove emotional control - which is what their BS research proved. | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | This is what the the cia’s “Global Whurlitzer” was about, the ability to control overall mood and motivation in a target population. It is one of the reasons the US is so crazy about copyright. Control of world culture is not just a tax on the world, it is the power to inflict pain and suffering. | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mighty-Wurlitzer-How-Played-America/dp/067403256X | Aug 07 14:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.amazon.co.uk | The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America: Amazon.co.uk: Hugh Wilford: 9780674032569: Books [ http://ur1.ca/pka1i ] | Aug 07 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688537 | Aug 07 14:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #dell is hiring #freesw people https://domsch.com/blog/?p=686 ready to leave #microsoft behind? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Aug 07 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | "You have to remember Edward Snowden’s skill set and that he also worked for Dell. Microsoft and partners use free software when it suits them." | Aug 07 14:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> domsch.com | Sr. Software Engineer position on my team | domsch.com blog | Aug 07 14:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Aug 07 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly, but he tends not to promote software that's proprietary himself, except maybe that latest iPhone project | Aug 07 14:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690133 | Aug 07 14:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's time to quit pretending that only #clinton (i.e. oligarchs) can defeat the oligarch who is #DonaldRump (unless #election rigged again) | Aug 07 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | "Probably every candidate can beat Trump in a general election but Clinton will be the only one who can beat him, practically speaking. That’s the current US system." | Aug 07 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Easier to sell militarism and Wall Street by saying "otherwise nazism"... | Aug 07 14:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690179 | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's not #democracy when there's a political #oligopoly over two factions of the Business Party (funding both wings) http://commondreams.org/news/2016/08/06/democracy-debatable-judge-rejects-third-party-bid-share-stage | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | "Jill and Gary need to hold their own debates. Fuck Hillary and Trump." | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Democracy Debatable as Judge Rejects Third-Party Bid to Share Stage | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/pka23 ] | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | But they need to be able to confront them face to face rather than confront each other | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689590 | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I, too, noticed some #linux dot com downtime recently https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4w7uh0/linuxcom_down_error_503_all_backends_failed_or/ maybe they should reassess their sysadmins | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.reddit.com' ( status 0 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4w7uh0/linuxcom_down_error_503_all_backends_failed_or/ ) | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | "#vacations much?" | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Good point. | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7683416\ | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #israel #likkud witch-hunt against anyone who dares not do as it wishes makes its PM like Donald Rump.No matter how many lies, still popular | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | "he is refering to your post" | Aug 07 14:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689050 | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Judge Tosses 200 Hours Of Recordings From FBI's Courthouse Bugs https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/10433035156/judge-tosses-200-hours-recordings-fbis-courthouse-bugs.shtml #fbi #surveillance | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | "WTF happened to consent?" | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Judge Tosses 200 Hours Of Recordings From FBI's Courthouse Bugs | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pkawm ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | The system is being raped by its law enforcers... | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7691646 | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FBI Chief Calls for National Talk Over #Encryption vs. Safety http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-chief-calls-national-talk-over-encryption-vs-safety-n624101 bullshit false dichotomy. Bogus 'debate'. | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://hacked.com/fbi-apple-snowden-iphone-horseshit/ | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://theintercept.com/2016/03/28/fbi-got-into-san-bernardino-killers-iphone-without-apples-help/ | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.nbcnews.com | FBI Chief Calls for National Talk Over Encryption vs. Safety - NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tj ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160331/17171834072/fbi-wont-tell-apple-how-it-got-into-iphone-is-apparently-eager-to-help-others-break-into-iphones.shtml | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-hacked.com | FBI's Claim That Only Apple Can Unlock the iPhone Is “Horseshit”, Says Edward Snowden | Hacked [ http://ur1.ca/pkawt ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/09/edward-snowden-fbi-san-bernardino-iphone-bullshit-nsa-apple | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | etc. | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-theintercept.com | FBI Got Into San Bernardino Killer’s iPhone Without Apple’s Help [ http://ur1.ca/pkawu ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.techdirt.com | FBI Won't Tell Apple How It Got Into iPhone... But Is Apparently Eager To Help Others Break Into iPhones | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pkawv ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Apple is in NSA PRISM | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theguardian.com | Snowden: FBI's claim it can't unlock the San Bernardino iPhone is 'bullshit' | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pkaww ] | Aug 07 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7683556 | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Police Get Facebook To Kill Livestream Of Standoff Which Ended With Suspect Being Shot To Death https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/06490535150/police-get-facebook-to-kill-livestream-standoff-which-ended-with-suspect-being-shot-to-death.shtml #facebook #death | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "It’s hard to tell. Their site talks a lot about an African diaspora and my NSA sources give me no matches for searches like “diaspora social” “diaspora pod” and “diaspora network”. So, I sent them an email asking if they had any Diaspora plans." | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Police Get Facebook To Kill Livestream Of Standoff Which Ended With Suspect Being Shot To Death | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pk0c2 ] | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | Good move | Aug 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688811 | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People like #billgates and #donaldRump cannot speak about "green". They don't recycle, they have private jets & http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-fined-over-horse-manure-at-florida-home-2014-10?IR=T | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Bill gates is a douche bag." | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businessinsider.com | Bill Gates Fined Over Horse Manure At Florida Home - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/pkax1 ] | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | At least those bags are useful for something | Aug 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689012 | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@overnetbh@joindiaspora.com reshared: #microsoft loves #linux http://fossbytes.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-deletes-linux-dual-boot-partitions/ very much. | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "I agree w/ Dr. Schestowitz. Microsoft has enough market knowledge to know that." | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | Linux Users Claim That Windows 10 Anniversary Update Deletes Dual-boot Partitions [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z5 ] | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | I'm still waiting for them to issue an official excuse | Aug 07 19:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7680330 | Aug 07 19:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stop living in denial, #Israel is an evil state http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-1.734309 "acts of evil perpetrated by the state..." #likkud | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.haaretz.com | Haaretz.Com [ http://ur1.ca/pjqn7 ] | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "“those denying there’s a problem in Likkud or inadvertently acting as apologists of Likkud” who? who is apolizing the likud politics? tzafir isnt and me not 2, THAT is a strawman!" | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7669210 | Aug 07 19:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stanleytoothbrush@shrekislove.us reshared: Critics Fear Crackdown on Palestinian #FreeSpeech as #Israel Takes Aim at #Facebook https://theintercept.com/2016/07/28/critics-fear-crackdown-on-palestinian-free-speech-as-israel-takes-aim-at-facebook/ #censorship #politics | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | how? how can a critique of antisemitism justify antisemitism, EVEN if the critique would be wrong? | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | ps which “actions”? or do you mean arguments? | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> theintercept.com | Critics Fear Crackdown on Palestinian Free Speech as Israel Takes Aim at Facebook | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | I think you do a fine job reinforcing the stereotypes they're preying on | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7676299 | Aug 07 19:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So #facebook censors 1) criticism of #israel 2) pro- #palestine 3) #kashmir 4) #ukraine 5) #islam - all for political reasons. What else? | Aug 07 19:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | But why is cyber-bullying against the law? Why do we put barriers on free speech on the Internet? It’s because there’s a real problem, and it’s important enough to warrant limiting that freedom. Generally your freedom may become limited when it starts harming other people’s freedoms and / or well-being. | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | In those cases, calls of certain individuals to direct illegal actions (“Kill Jews”, in various variations) were actually followed. Thus you (occasionally) have to take those calls seriously. | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Merely calling for someone to commit suicide on the Internet is not really a problem. The problem is the volume of those calls, right? | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | No, cyber-bulling is applicable in cases where the goal is to cause self harm of destroy a person's mental state. The worse king of speech offense are threats (not just of violence but also doxing). | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | *or | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | king->kinds | Aug 07 19:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7665344 | Aug 07 19:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Snowden Criticizing #WikiLeaks Shouldn't Actually Surprise Anyone http://www.insidesources.com/16156-2/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/edward-snowden-slams-wikileaks-for-not-curating-info-releases/ http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/07/edward-snowden-wikileaks-dnc-226386 | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | "thanks for the link. it pretty much confirms, with a few more details, the role of wikileaks in this that I had read about so far, which I find to be more ona sloppy than on the heroic side." | Aug 07 19:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.insidesources.com | Snowden Criticizing WikiLeaks Shouldn't Actually Surprise Anyone – InsideSources | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.rawstory.com | Edward Snowden jabs WikiLeaks for not ‘curating’ info releases | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.politico.com | Snowden knocks WikiLeaks for handling of DNC leak - POLITICO | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688898 | Aug 07 19:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Raspberry Pi Zero sized HAT has four sensors with 10 variables http://hackerboards.com/raspberry-pi-zero-sized-hat-has-four-sensors-with-10-variables/ #raspi #linux | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Raspberry Pi Zero sized HAT has four sensors with 10 variables | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | "pretty good stuff" | Aug 07 19:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 07 19:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 07 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | "you might think about your posts again “israel is an evil state” suggest, that itz the existence of israel, which is the problem, it seems like itz the essence of israel to be evil. claiming that EVERY critiszism towards the politics of israel would be called “antisemitic” is a strawman, a lie and factial wrong, thats bullshit, explained above! USE A DAMM ARGUMENT!' | Aug 07 19:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle | Aug 07 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | You're an idiot. you're attributing to title of an article to me. | Aug 07 19:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7642850 | Aug 07 19:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #york has a very large army base very close to centre of Town (walked past it). It also has Menwith Hill, which is an #nsa (yes, US!!!) base | Aug 07 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | "What other things have you heard about Wiesbaden, if I may know?" | Aug 07 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Not US base-related | Aug 07 19:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688815 | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: White Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter for Death of Unarmed Black Teen http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/white-police-officer-convicted-manslaughter-death-unarmed-black-teen is #chicago #police next? | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Wait until he is sentenced." | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | White Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter for Death of Unarmed Black Teen | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/pkay6 ] | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | He might get some 'community service' at worst | Aug 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690966 | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Julian Assange’s War on Hillary Clinton Says About #WikiLeaks https://theintercept.com/2016/08/06/accusing-wikileaks-bias-beside-point/ wait, he's against #DonaldRump also | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Comments are much better than the article" | Aug 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Well, that sure is a relief | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> theintercept.com | What Julian Assange’s War on Hillary Clinton Says About WikiLeaks [ http://ur1.ca/pkay8 ] | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690893 | Aug 07 19:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Watch #snowden tweets becomes an article? http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/snowden-dead-man-switch/ http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/08/06/snowden-gearing-up-its-time-he-says-in-a-very-mysterious-tweet/ http://www.inquisitr.com/3389936/edward-snowden-dead-mysterious-tweet-is-sending-conspiracy-theorists-into-a-meltdown/ http://www.inquisitr.com/3391112/edward-snowden-is-not-dead-hes-fine-says-insider-afte | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thelibertarianrepublic.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/pka37 ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Apparently it can’t specify a file on IPFS. I’d be very surprised if it’s not a SHA256 hash. I’m leaning toward the idea that it proves he has a certain file. Maybe it verifies that he received a certain file. There was some “now is the time” post earlier, right?" | Aug 07 19:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.collective-evolution.com | Snowden Gearing Up? “It’s Time” He Says In A Very Mysterious Tweet – Collective Evolution [ http://ur1.ca/pka38 ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.inquisitr.com | Edward Snowden Dead? Mysterious Tweet Is Sending Conspiracy Theorists Into A Meltdown [ http://ur1.ca/pka39 ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.inquisitr.com | Edward Snowden Is Not Dead: ‘He’s Fine’ Says Insider After Cryptic Code Tweet, Dead Man’s Switch Scare [ http://ur1.ca/pka3a ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | Let's wait and see. I'm surprised so many articles have been written about one single cryptic tweet. Cult of personalities, I guess... | Aug 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7643850 | Aug 07 19:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is not an operating system. It's mass #surveillance software that installs itself http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-collects-too-much-user-data-lacks-security-says-watchdog/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 07 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | "I don’t know, I was in panic upon the sight of Windows on my box, I didn’t think of that." | Aug 07 19:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Windows 10 collects too much user data, lacks security says watchdog - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/phme9 ] | Aug 07 19:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 07 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | Last time I had Windows on a box (dual) was more than a decade ago and it was Windows 2000 | Aug 07 19:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692025 | Aug 07 19:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #us Presidential Candidates playing the gender card http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/05/i-am-woman-hear-me-whore-i-am-man-hear-me-crow/ back to Medieval times? | Aug 07 19:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.counterpunch.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/05/i-am-woman-hear-me-whore-i-am-man-hear-me-crow/ ) | Aug 07 19:30 | |
| schestowitz | "More anti-Clinton than anti-Trump. To be expected from pro-Putin CP. The anti-Clinton stuff is all about sex with only one mention of Honduras, so it is basically sexism. If they think Clinton is more likely to nuke Russia than Trump is, they may be in for a VERY BIG surprise. There is also an attempt to equate the “neoliberalism” of the Tories and the Republicans, with “liberalism” - a very easy deception with an ignorant electorate | Aug 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I would not label CP pro-Russia. I can think of some sites that ARE pro-Russia, but not CP. | Aug 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688561 | Aug 07 19:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today I saw a shameless attack against Dr. #jillstein for suggesting Wi-Fi can be harmful. Is it not common sense? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/11/25/wifi-dangers/ | Aug 07 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Sadly enough, it is not common sense. People can’t imagine a mechanism for harm even when you send them journal articles proving the effect. They also value their toys more than the precautionary principle. Here’s a disappointing conversation where Jill Stein was smeared as a crank and I tried to inject a little common sense, | Aug 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/9KiNWifbF8E | Aug 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Wi-Fi, Cellphones, and Our Health | Aug 07 19:31 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-plus.google.com | Lauren Weinstein - Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/pkayo ] | Aug 07 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | I'm sure many more effective smears will be thrown her way. She gains support very fast. Donations up 1000% in the past few weeks alone. Cornel and Assange on her side... | Aug 07 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 07 19:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Aguero starting to look like #DavidMiranda https://twitter.com/ManCity/status/762344538614689795 #mcfc #manchester #mancity | Aug 07 19:36 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ManCity: HT | City 1-0 Arsenal @aguerosergiokun's strike on 30' the difference at the break 👍🏻 #cityontour #mcfc https://t.co/y2XRe7J1Lr | Aug 07 19:36 | |
| schestowitz | If I were to start a completely free culture sports site, would you financially support it? Sportazine was releasing under CC BY-SA, but I couldn't get the business partner to get rid of ads. Also, he was using GoDaddy, which isn't necessarily anti-freesoftware, but just feels dirty. I've been talking to some people about starting something pure, but I'm not in a place right now where i can do it without some financial backing. Obviously, we | Aug 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | can talk more in a separate thread if you want. Alternatively, you can email me at dw11@unhlaw.unh.edu. This thread is fine too, I just didn't know if this was the best venue for such a discussion."" | Aug 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I'd link to a good FOSSy site which covers English football and other sports I follow | Aug 07 19:38 |
| dabblers-buffet | Hello everyone, I just noticed something, I was talking with someone yesterday about EXIF data, and whenever I drag a video from my camera to my PC and back to my camera, it resets. | Aug 07 20:08 |
| dabblers-buffet | Is that normal? | Aug 07 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz | "what other sports do you follow? English football will definitely be one of the topics. Long-story-short, I’ve got to figure out if we have the support, in some sense, before I do a crowd-funding campaign. I’ve had a couple of unsuccessful crowd-funding campaigns in the past, and I want to get this one right." | Aug 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz | What would be an advantage of such a site being CC/FOSS? Hard to see how it would be practically useful? Data reuse maybe? APIs? | Aug 07 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688086 | Aug 07 22:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Government must consider open-source software - ACT http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/5/259426 #freesw in #nz | Aug 07 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah. Very sad." | Aug 07 22:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.voxy.co.nz | Government must consider open-source software - ACT | Voxy.co.nz | Aug 07 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | Keep on trying, Microsoft is getting tired and understaffed now | Aug 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 07 22:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 07 22:16 | |
| schestowitz | "i am “an idiot”, because? i dont agree and use arguments?' | Aug 07 22:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle | Aug 07 22:16 | |
| schestowitz | You attribute to me things I do say | Aug 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | *don't | Aug 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688815 | Aug 07 22:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: White Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter for Death of Unarmed Black Teen http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/white-police-officer-convicted-manslaughter-death-unarmed-black-teen is #chicago #police next? | Aug 07 22:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | White Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter for Death of Unarmed Black Teen | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/pkay6 ] | Aug 07 22:16 | |
| schestowitz | "I’m expecting probation." | Aug 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "They are just pacifying people." | Aug 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7643850 | Aug 07 22:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is not an operating system. It's mass #surveillance software that installs itself http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-collects-too-much-user-data-lacks-security-says-watchdog/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Ugh I had to work on a Win 7 system the other day. >.>" | Aug 07 22:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Windows 10 collects too much user data, lacks security says watchdog - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/phme9 ] | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7669210 | Aug 07 22:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stanleytoothbrush@shrekislove.us reshared: Critics Fear Crackdown on Palestinian #FreeSpeech as #Israel Takes Aim at #Facebook https://theintercept.com/2016/07/28/critics-fear-crackdown-on-palestinian-free-speech-as-israel-takes-aim-at-facebook/ #censorship #politics | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | "i dont defend (in opposite to you) antisemitic hatespeech and i dont support antisemitic actions, which “stereotypes” youre speaking off? i think i brought some good examples for antisemitic hatespeech by the fatah-movement, right?" | Aug 07 22:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> theintercept.com | Critics Fear Crackdown on Palestinian Free Speech as Israel Takes Aim at Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/pj4qs ] | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690179 | Aug 07 22:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's not #democracy when there's a political #oligopoly over two factions of the Business Party (funding both wings) http://commondreams.org/news/2016/08/06/democracy-debatable-judge-rejects-third-party-bid-share-stage | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Well Johnson is the closest to 15% right now which is what he needs. Honestly I think all the Stein people should get behind Johnson for the time being." | Aug 07 22:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Democracy Debatable as Judge Rejects Third-Party Bid to Share Stage | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/pka23 ] | Aug 07 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | They're someone far apart on policy | Aug 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz | They're somewhat far apart on policy | Aug 07 22:18 |
| schestowitz | that’s assuming that IMF & other non-Greeks “own” Greece… | Aug 07 22:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688245 | Aug 07 22:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@johnito@joindiaspora.com reshared: The IMF confesses it immolated Greece on behalf of the Eurogroup https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/yanis-varoufakis/imf-confesses-it-immolated-greece-on-behalf-of-eurogroup #imf #greece #liquidation #austerity | Aug 07 22:18 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.opendemocracy.net | The IMF confesses it immolated Greece on behalf of the Eurogroup | openDemocracy [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z8 ] | Aug 07 22:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689050 | Aug 07 22:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Judge Tosses 200 Hours Of Recordings From FBI's Courthouse Bugs https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/10433035156/judge-tosses-200-hours-recordings-fbis-courthouse-bugs.shtml #fbi #surveillance | Aug 07 22:18 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Judge Tosses 200 Hours Of Recordings From FBI's Courthouse Bugs | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pkawm ] | Aug 07 22:18 | |
| schestowitz | "I believe Cali is a two party consent state in which consent is established by announcing you are recording." | Aug 07 22:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688050 | Aug 07 22:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Malaysia confirms Flight 370 pilot plotted fatal route http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-confirms-flight-370-pilot-plotted-fatal-route/ suicide and mass murder | Aug 07 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Compared to road traffic Boeing and Airbus could probably kill an entire day of passengers and still be safer than cars - even without the pilots plotting it. | Aug 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz | From what I know about modern airliners, regardless of plotting the route, the failure seen is unlikely to happen without human interaction. | Aug 07 22:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.cbsnews.com | Malaysia confirms Flight 370 pilot plotted fatal route - CBS News [ http://ur1.ca/pkawh ] | Aug 07 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | I’m afraid the black boxes will never be found and we’ll never know what exactly happened on this flight. But major media speculating about chain events won’t help either. | Aug 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz | It would be esp. nasty if the blamed a victim and people took that as historical fact | Aug 07 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kosovo_kosova/status/762400010126368768 | Aug 07 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kosovo_kosova: "@schestowitz: #facebook is not for 'friends' but 4 #people who dont have real #friends some times more than others https://t.co/Ot3FXZeaNj" | Aug 07 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/762413495828750336 | Aug 07 23:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Is she not against Wi-Fi? I thought that was what she meant in https://t.co/pTMgQKbwX6 | Aug 07 23:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> boingboing.net | Jill Stein is a fearmongering crank who thinks Wi-Fi harms children's brains / Boing Boing | Aug 07 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | I agree with her on Wi-Fi in schools and wrote about it years ago; there's academic literature to support her here | Aug 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | sad to see some author I never ever saw in BoinBoing (and I follow it for years) jumping on the anti-Stein bandwagon with insults | Aug 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Boing | Aug 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mutinyinmokum/status/762415669644177409 | Aug 07 23:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mutinyinmokum: @schestowitz @petrakramer https://t.co/w5LLClzWRi | Aug 07 23:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> motherboard.vice.com | The Internet of Things Will Turn Large-Scale Hacks into Real World Disasters | Motherboard | Aug 07 23:33 | |
| schestowitz | Seen that last week, posted a link to it | Aug 07 23:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/762417532565348352 | Aug 07 23:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: DOJ Official Tells 100 Federal Judges To Use Tor @schestowitz - https://t.co/1wrzvikMum | Aug 07 23:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> yro.slashdot.org | DOJ Official Tells 100 Federal Judges To Use Tor - Slashdot | Aug 07 23:40 | |
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| schestowitz | "'private' message is not invisible to GC** or NS*, but Control Risks probably wouldn't get to it. Do you have access to BB's salary (as a start)? With or without document? " | Aug 08 10:15 |
| schestowitz | "Different versions being shared may serve to incriminate different 'sources', so I'll skip this for now..." | Aug 08 10:21 |
| schestowitz | " I will start sniffing around again this week and let you know what I find ;-)" | Aug 08 10:22 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/3d-printers-break-eu-expands-copyright-furniture/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.privateinternetaccess.com | As 3D printers break through, EU expands copyright to furniture and extends term by a century | Privacy Online News | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697228/Women-BANNED-Dunkin-Donuts-Saudi-Arabia-unless-accompanied-man | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.express.co.uk' ( status 0 @ http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697228/Women-BANNED-Dunkin-Donuts-Saudi-Arabia-unless-accompanied-man ) | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/security/nigerian-scammers-infect-themselves-with-own-malware-revealing-new-wirewire-fraud-scheme | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-spectrum.ieee.org | Nigerian Scammers Infect Themselves With Own Malware, Revealing New Wire-Wire Fraud Scheme - IEEE Spectrum [ http://ur1.ca/pke62 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://ww2.kqed.org/lowdown/2016/07/29/the-trans-pacific-partnership-explained/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > soft pedals the issues | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ww2.kqed.org | EXPLAINER: What’s the Deal with the TPP? | The Lowdown | KQED News [ http://ur1.ca/pke63 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-scientist-idUSKCN10I0ES?il=0 | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://mspoweruser.com/security-reseacher-explains-security-issues-related-to-windows-10-linux-subsystem/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reuters.com | Iran executes nuclear scientist for spying for U.S. | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pke64 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > Vista10 causes more problems | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mspoweruser.com | Security Reseacher explains security issues related to Windows 10 Linux subsystem at Blackhat - MSPoweruser [ http://ur1.ca/pke65 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://betanews.com/2016/08/07/linux-microsoft-surface-3/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > yet the infection spreads | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-betanews.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 will add Microsoft Surface 3 support [ http://ur1.ca/pke67 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > ? https://changelog.com/rfc/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://changelog.com/rfc/ ) | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/762599577044258816 | Aug 08 11:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @AlterNet American core culture is too greedy and selfish. They are tought to get ahead by pushing others behind. | Aug 08 11:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/762608619552665600 | Aug 08 12:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge Ends With Mayhem @schestowitz https://t.co/pdJczCC53c | Aug 08 12:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 08 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Aguero starting to look like #DavidMiranda https://twitter.com/ManCity/status/762344538614689795 #mcfc #manchester #mancity | Aug 08 17:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ManCity: HT | City 1-0 Arsenal @aguerosergiokun's strike on 30' the difference at the break 👍🏻 #cityontour #mcfc https://t.co/y2XRe7J1Lr | Aug 08 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | There are a variety of reasons; too many to list here. The most obvious one is the lack of tracking cookies and proprietary javascript that most sites use. | Aug 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | The next most obvious is just increasing awareness of free licensing in general. Even in an IP-focused law school, most people know nothing about Creative Commons or open source. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | There are a lot of things I’d like to do going forward, but will take time. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | For one, I’d like to bring more live broadcasting into the free culture space (in and out of sports). I’d really like to have a free culture Olympics (although I doubt the IOC would let us use that name). ConIFA has had a few successful tournaments outside of FIFA. I’d model things somewhat after them. Perhaps at FOSDEM or something like that. We could move around to different conferences. This is not something I’ve spent a lot of | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | time thinking about, because it is years in future. How many years will depend on a variety of factors. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Two, I’d like to build a collection of sports images, videos, and sounds for musicians, videographers, and other artists and journalists to use. Wikimedia is obviously doing some of this already. I don’t want to reinvent the wheel. We’d be pulling in what Wikinews is already doing, but https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Sports is pretty sparse. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikinews.org | Category:Sports - Wikinews, the free news source [ http://ur1.ca/pkfso ] | Aug 08 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | Three, I’d like to have free software games to compete with the likes of EA. Of course, we will be hurt by the same problems PES is…the lake of trademark licensing, but we could build in the same thing PES does…the ability to upload team, player, etc. names and attributes. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | APIs is not something I’ve thought a ton about outside of the potentials for 1, 2, and 3, but at this point I’m willing to listen to all ideas. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Running such a site would be of interest to many, but it would involve A LOT of work to keep up to date and there are all sorts of "publicity rights" to work around. If it comes online, let people in Diaspora know. | Aug 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694224 | Aug 08 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: All mobile (surveillance) phones suck. They become bigger, heavier, impossible to remove batteries from... can't switch off cameras/mic. | Aug 08 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "I assume, then, that you do not carry one?" | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | On rare occasions like airport trips i carry hers | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle [ http://ur1.ca/pk0b9 ] | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | so you didnt posted an article which claimed “israel is an evil state”?" | Aug 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | RTs are not endorsements... | Aug 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694101 | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Women BANNED from Dunkin' Donuts in #SaudiArabia - unless they are accompanied http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697228/Women-BANNED-Dunkin-Donuts-Saudi-Arabia-unless-accompanied-man 'feminist' #clinton funded by them | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s absolute bullshit that that happened." | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.express.co.uk | Signs banning unaccompanied women put up in Saudi Dunkin Donuts | World | News | Daily Express [ http://ur1.ca/pkfu8 ] | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | That they managed to bribe Clinton for here passivity/silence? :-) | Aug 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7643850 | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is not an operating system. It's mass #surveillance software that installs itself http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-collects-too-much-user-data-lacks-security-says-watchdog/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "We’re so much better, than all the other Windows plebs out there." | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Windows 10 collects too much user data, lacks security says watchdog - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/phme9 ] | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Week in Solus – Install #33 https://solus-project.com/2016/08/07/this-week-in-solus-install-33/ #solus #gnu #linux | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Dr. Roy. Whats distro do you use? I quite like the look of Solus. Is it Debian based? I like Budgie." | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #33 | Solus [ http://ur1.ca/pkfue ] | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | haven't tried Solus or Budgie, I use Crouton on one small laptop and openbox on top of kubuntu on the other | Aug 08 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688078 | Aug 08 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Study: people will risk getting shot to replace everyday safety with #privacy https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/people-risk-shot-replace-safety-privacy/ #surveillance | Aug 08 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "What absolute nonsense. This is not a study at all, it’s just a Rick Falkvinge rant. East Germany was not a country of “jobs and safety”, it was suffering under a horrible repressive authoritarian communist dictatorship that betrayed, tortured and killed its people. Unfortunately, recent voting behaviour in Western democracies actually shows that most people don’t give a shit about privacy and would give it up for security in a | Aug 08 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.privateinternetaccess.com | Study: people will risk getting shot to replace everyday safety with privacy | Privacy Online News [ http://ur1.ca/pk2kh ] | Aug 08 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | heartbeat. Or even just convenience. Proof: the millions volunteering to be subjected to total permanent surveillance by carrying mobile phones, using Gmail and other “cloud” services, signing over their entire lives to Facebook, etc. etc. etc." | Aug 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | yes, phones are the worst privacy destoryers. They also come with back doors, two cameras, and long range microphone (for speaker). | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7676299 | Aug 08 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So #facebook censors 1) criticism of #israel 2) pro- #palestine 3) #kashmir 4) #ukraine 5) #islam - all for political reasons. What else? | Aug 08 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Not just calls for self harm. Also calls for harm in general. But those should be much more serious. For instance: specific and explicit plans for murder." | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Those are illegal and thankfully we have laws against those | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694196 | Aug 08 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #OnionDSL : Engineer Becomes #Tor -based One Man ISP To Fight Against Mass #Survelliance http://fossbytes.com/oniondsl-engineer-becomes-tor-based-one-man-isp-to-fight-against-mass-survelliance/ | Aug 08 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Great idea." | Aug 08 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | OnionDSL: Engineer Becomes Tor-based One Man ISP To Fight Against Mass Survelliance [ http://ur1.ca/pkfun ] | Aug 08 18:13 | |
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| schestowitz | >>>>>>> It's been going on for a while. My cousins down in Sweden lost theirs | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> some years ago. They were also without power for weeks. Fortunately | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> they live in old houses with wood stoves for cooking and heating. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, until very recently they've been unable to get a stronger | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> signal than 1/5 or 2/5 on their mobiles even though their land lines are | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> gone. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> "Smart" phones are even worse than regular mobiles Aside from the | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> microphones and cameras, there is the power consumption. I wonder how | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> many megawatts per day they consume in each country. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> I used to say a lot and write about radiation levels too. Some people | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> speak on the phone for hours. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> There is that. I'm suspicious of all EM. It's still being debated, | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> however. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> With the power consumption there can be cold, hard numbers. Most smart | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> phone users I've asked talk about having to recharge several times per | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> 24 hr period. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > Corporate media now calls Jill Stein "crank" (Green Party, which I | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > support) for suggesting that Wi-Fi has no place in school for health | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > reasons. This was actually seriously debated (Slashdot covered it) a | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > decade ago. Apparently now it's classified as "crank"... when you need | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > to attack a political contender. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > IIRC from around 10 years ago, there was an initial study showing that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > phone radiation was harmful. Then the private sector, which has veto on | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > research by virtue of the fact they control the research spending, | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > blocked any further studies. Then they spread the talking point that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > only a single study had shown negative effects. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > That is like when M$ saw the Asus EEE 701 selling out and blocked | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > manufacture of new units. Then at the end of the year they could go | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > back and say only a small percent of Linux units sold. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway back to the phones, in Norway there were a few people around that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > claimed to be able to feel the phones and point to where in a room or on | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > a person they were hidden. I didn't have a chance to investigate that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > though. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "publicity rights should be fine outside of video games, at least in the USA. Just as long as we don’t imply endorsement. I ran http://sportazine.com for 6.5 years, so I certainly understand the amount of work involved. I gave up Sportazine in June because I couldn’t get past the ads/proprietary javascript issue with my business partner. Most of the back-catalog there is CC BY-SA. We had some ideas for bigger projects that never got going | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I will let you know if we are able to get them going under a new site." | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Excellent | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694224 | Aug 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "Got it. | Aug 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7691092 | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Stollman said “seems ok”. Because twitter dont require real name. Facebook | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | actually not require real name too, but by formal rules real name | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | required - name actually unverifiable. So Stollmans’s statement that | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | twitter is better than fb based on formal declarations, not on deals | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | that actually does. Also he said that distributed systems is the best choice. | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | FSF twitter account is the bot, this is the source: | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | http://status.fsf.org/fsf | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | "Full article on FSF.org: https://www.fsf.org/twitter/twitter" | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694247 | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | "Red Hat are being stupid now? What has the world come to." | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | The move of money. For shareholders. | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | *love | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | "Nice. By the way, do you have a doctret in something?' | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Medical biophysics | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7695134 | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Agreed. Useless. | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Actually though, it has one use: Allowing people with money one more outlet to proclaim to the rest of the world that they have money. | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | yes, social status symbol | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688078 | Aug 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | "Hm? Long range microphone (for speaker)? I’m missing something." | Aug 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Cellphones can listen to more than an entire room | Aug 09 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jacobgadikian/status/762931387208835072 | Aug 09 09:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Dhanesh95/status/762943303813738496 | Aug 09 10:31 |
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| TechBytesBot | Hello World! I'm TechBytesBot running phIRCe v0.75 | Aug 09 10:31 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/oh-not-again-us-reportedly-found-new-secret-software-in-vw-diesels/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.cnet.com | Oh, not again: US reportedly finds new secret software in VW diesels - Roadshow | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-another-migration-stares-at-kashmiri-pandits-2242002 | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dnaindia.com | Terror group Lashkar-e-Islam threatens Kashmiri pandits asking them to leave or get killed | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/pkk88 ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://act.yapc.eu/ye2016/conferenceInfo.html | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > 24-26 Aug | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-act.yapc.eu | YAPC::Europe 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/pkk89 ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/08/news/companies/delta-system-outage-flights/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-money.cnn.com | Delta flights resume but cancellations and delays continue - Aug. 8, 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8a ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://mrpogson.com/2016/08/08/innuendo-from-me-just-like-trump/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mrpogson.com | Innuendo, From Me, Just Like Trump | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8b ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > "She highlighted that the already acute problem of child brides in | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > Turkey, of whom there are already around 3.5 million, would deepen | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > following the ruling. " | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-constitutional-court-stirs-outrage-by-annulling-child-sex-abuse-clause.aspx | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/child-abuse_forced-underage-marriages-rise-in-switzerland/42358794 | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.hurriyetdailynews.com | Hürriyet Daily News | LEADING NEWS SOURCE FOR TURKEY AND THE REGION [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8e ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2016/08/08/peter-sunde-kolmisoppi-oj-jag-startade-visst-en-sekt | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.swissinfo.ch | Forced underage marriages rise in Switzerland - SWI swissinfo.ch [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8f ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2016/08/08/peter-sunde-kolmisoppi-oj-jag-startade-visst-en-sekt | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-svenska.yle.fi | Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi: Oj, jag startade visst en sekt | Radio Vega | svenska.yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8h ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8i ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?sid=14905&cid=385335 | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?sid=14905&cid=385335 ) | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > systemd | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/human-rights/20848-iran-regime-tries-to-justify-the-execution-of-young-people | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ncr-iran.org | NCRI - National Council of Resistance of Iran - Iran regime tries to justify the execution of young people [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8k ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2016/08/chinese-hunting-chinese-over-pop3-in.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-bsdly.blogspot.com | That grumpy BSD guy: Chinese Hunting Chinese Over POP3 In Fjord Country [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8l ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > POP3 ???? !!!! | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@falkvinge/the-founder-of-the-pirate-party-brings-liberty-ideas-to-steem | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > twitter positioning itself as authentication, see comments below post | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-steemit.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8n ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > "all because an unelected bureaucrat suddenly decided to act like a | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > mini-dictator and make changes in what was once a source of excellent | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > detail about the population at large" | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/74221-abs-head-must-take-blame-if-census-compromised.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.wired.com/2016/08/child-dead-climate-change-thawed-anthrax-infected-reindeer/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.itwire.com | iTWire - ABS head must take blame if census compromised [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8p ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.wired.com | Siberian Child Dies After Climate Change Thaws an Anthrax-Infected Reindeer | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8q ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/article/3105530/government/the-us-marines-are-testing-a-pocket-sized-helicopter-drone.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.pcworld.com | The US Marines are testing a pocket-sized helicopter drone | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8s ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2467342/sauron-spyware-attacking-targets-in-belgium-china-russia-and-sweden | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theinquirer.net | 'Sauron' spyware attacking targets in Belgium, China, Russia and Sweden | TheINQUIRER [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8t ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2467262/met-police-still-running-windows-xp-on-27-000-computers | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theinquirer.net | Met Police still running Windows XP on 27,000 computers | TheINQUIRER [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8u ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > forget XP, /Windows/ in general is dangerously out of date | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/kgb-chiefs-diaries-may-shed-light-on-fate-of-swedish-diplomat-wh/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | Swedish diplomat who saved thousands of Hungarian Jews in WW2 then disappeared was 'liquidated by Soviet KGB' [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8v ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > x | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/clock-boy-ahmed-mohamed-sues-irving-schools-police-for-wrongful-arrest/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | “Clock boy” Ahmed Mohamed sues Irving schools, police for wrongful arrest | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8w ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > this is not a tech story | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/08/the-white-house-just-released-the-federal-source-code-policy-to-help-government-agencies-go-open-source/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techcrunch.com | The White House releases policy to help government agencies go open source | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8y ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/290789-white-house-releases-open-source-software-policy | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thehill.com | White House releases open source software policy | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/pkk90 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/08/open-source-rockwell.aspx | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fcw.com | White House releases open source policy -- FCW [ http://ur1.ca/pkk91 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > "suggested that the new MacBook Pros would offer ‘Touch ID support,’" | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://9to5mac.com/2016/08/08/new-macbooks-expected-to-feature-touch-id-power-button-as-well-as-oled-touch-panel/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-9to5mac.com | New MacBooks expected to feature Touch ID power button as well as OLED touch-panel | 9to5Mac [ http://ur1.ca/pkk92 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > as UID or password? Former is ok latter is insecure | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290798-pence-trump-will-end-the-war-on-coal | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thehill.com | Pence: Trump will ‘end the war on coal’ | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/pkk93 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > boil that planet | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/three-million-working-families-one-pay-cheque-away-from-losing-their-home-a7179606.html | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.independent.co.uk | Three million working families are 'one pay cheque away from losing their home' | News | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/pkk94 ] | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.christopherprice.net/gplv4-starting-the-conversation-2580.html | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.christopherprice.net | GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation | Christopher Price [ http://ur1.ca/pkk96 ] | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/its-hard-work-printing-nothing | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tedunangst.com | it’s hard work printing nothing [ http://ur1.ca/pkk97 ] | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-importance-of-bell-labs-unix.htm | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-importance-of-bell-labs-unix.htm ) | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/08/08/the-classified-appendix-fifth-bullet/ | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/08/08/the-classified-appendix-fifth-bullet/ ) | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | [04:29] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: the bot fell. Crap, I didn't notice | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [04:35] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: the bot fell. Crap, I didn't notice | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [06:06] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: the bot fell. Crap, I didn't notice | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [13:01] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: probably too early over there :-) :-) | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [13:59] <qu1j0t3> hi | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [13:59] <qu1j0t3> i'll fix | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [14:00] <schestowitz> Thanks :) excellent! | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/762985454060834816 | Aug 09 15:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Windows 10 updates has been reported to delete Linux partitions without confirmation or even warning." https://t.co/4tdiD1b8hq #vista10 | Aug 09 15:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ostatic.com | More Fun with Windows 10, Yabba Dabba Do Bedrock Linux | Aug 09 15:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/systemdsucks/status/763021325531279360 | Aug 09 15:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@systemdsucks: «I found that ExecStop run straight after ExecStart.» INIT: YOU'RE DOING IT ASSBACKWARDSLY WRONG https://t.co/sYl1nVAu7e | Aug 09 15:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: systemd: remember to keep the daemons alive https://t.co/nOCimFDt4h #systemd mess | Aug 09 15:47 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 09 17:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 09 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | "oh, now i get it, israelian citizens or jews cant be antisemitic, right? and non-white people cant be racist and women or lgbtq-people cant be sexist? seriously? is it the jewish blood which makes them immun against antisemitism? it is the cutten foreskin? or the child-murdering which makes them immun? o0" | Aug 09 17:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle | Aug 09 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | "ever heard about otto weininger, david burros, gerad menuhin or israel shamir, just to name a few?" | Aug 09 17:54 |
| schestowitz | "so, again, critizes israel, but dont do it in antisemitic way, untill now, the most of your anti-israel-postings arent really antisemitic, the most are just factial and historical wrong ;)" | Aug 09 17:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696463 | Aug 09 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #checkpoint spam http://fossbytes.com/quadrooter-900-million-android-phones-at-risk-check-if-your-device-is-safe/ all 'smart' phones can be remotely hijacked anyway (baseband bugs), defective by design | Aug 09 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | "Sometimes it pays to have an old phone." | Aug 09 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | "QuadRooter" Puts 900 Million Smartphones "At Risk" — How To Check If Your Device Is Safe [ http://ur1.ca/pklgz ] | Aug 09 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | "Still running that, what was it, Android 2.3 phone?' | Aug 09 17:56 |
| schestowitz | "2.2 :3' | Aug 09 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Security by obscurity | Aug 09 17:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/post/7697648 | Aug 09 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://joindiaspora.com/post/7697648 ) | Aug 09 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697648 | Aug 09 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Our Deteriorating Environment: Is Anybody Listening? http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/08/our-deteriorating-environment-is-anybody-listening/ "Amazon basin, is losing its ability to soak up excess carbon dioxide" | Aug 09 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.counterpunch.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/08/our-deteriorating-environment-is-anybody-listening/ ) | Aug 09 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697607 | Aug 09 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Empire supports #clinton [PDF] https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3007589/Nationalsecurityletter.pdf is this an endorsement at all??? These are the people who abuse all US citizens' rights. | Aug 09 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696451 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Big #alcohol is working to undermine #marijuana legalization, Wikileaks confirms http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2016/08/08/big-alcohol-is-working-to-undermine-marijuana-legalization-wikileaks-confirms/ #wikileaks #dncleaks | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blog.sfgate.com | Big alcohol is working to undermine marijuana legalization, Wikileaks confirms - Smell the Truth [ http://ur1.ca/pklho ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "If it’s not Monsanto ruining marijuana, it’s the alcohol industry trying to save their business model." | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698056 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Art magazine questions censorship of #LisaYuskavage nude http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/booksandarts/art-magazine-questions-censorship-lisa-yuskavage-nude-cover/7702270 #censorship of abstracts too https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/09/art-magazine-vault-adds-stickers-to-breasts-of-painted-nude-at-distributors-request | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.abc.net.au | Art magazine questions censorship of Lisa Yuskavage nude - Books and Arts - ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/pklhr ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Art magazine covers nipples of nude by celebrated artist with huge yellow stickers | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pklhs ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "White Taliban.' | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697299 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ApricityOS 07.2016 Screenshot Tour http://www.linuxscreenshots.org/?release=Apricity%20OS%2007.2016 #gnu #linux | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxscreenshots.org | Apricity OS 07.2016 Screenshot Tour [ http://ur1.ca/pklht ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Now that’s a very sexy distribution of GNU/Linux. Looks like they are using the Numix icon set." | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697573 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Apartheid #Israel 's war on #water https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water "impose horrific conditions on life for Palestinians" | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water ) | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | first, itz not apartheid, that a banalization of the south-african racist apartheid-regime, second http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWESTBANKGAZA/Resources/IsraelWaterAuthorityresponse.pdf | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Peace/Guide/Pages/THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN INTERIM AGREEMENT.aspx | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | but facts and arguments only disturbe your bullshit propaganda | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mfa.gov.il | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/pklhw ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697279 | Aug 09 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? http://hackerboards.com/is-that-a-debian-all-in-one-pc-in-your-pocket/ #debian #gnu #linux | Aug 09 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "If I am not mistaken it requires non-free stuff to boot?' | Aug 09 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? [ http://ur1.ca/pkli0 ] | Aug 09 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | I guess these days most things are like that, unfortunately, unless advertised otherwise | Aug 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692960 | Aug 09 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Mathieu Tremblin** is a French artist who decided to fix this. He paints over the ugly graffiti and makes them legible...  ![](/camo/fc2fbbaace422e353427c20616b | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.demodetouslesjours.eu | Demo de tous les jours - Mathieu Tremblin | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Needs to be done on Comic Sans… just kidding!" | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696628 | Aug 09 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Did NSA Try to Destroy Hillary Clinton?" written by former #nsa staff and liar, caught 'cheating' on wife with http://gawker.com/nsa-spook-turned-twitter-pundit-goes-dark-after-dick-pi-1594848048 | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> gawker.com | NSA Spook-Turned-Twitter-Pundit Goes Dark After Dick Pic Surfaces [ http://ur1.ca/pklie ] | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | “In one screencapped exchange, he sent her a picture of his mostly flaccid penis.” | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Important details. | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Another Weiner! (Winner) | Aug 09 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692948 | Aug 09 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Department of Justice Official Tells Hundred Federal Judges to Use #Tor http://motherboard.vice.com/read/department-of-justice-official-tells-hundred-federal-judges-to-use-tor WHAT? Not just for PAEDOPHILES ?! #bbc lied? | Aug 09 18:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> motherboard.vice.com | Department of Justice Official Tells Hundred Federal Judges to Use Tor | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pklik ] | Aug 09 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | "Well yeah, the US government paid for it to be developed for their benefit so of course they should be using it, e.g. https://youtu.be/CJNxbpbHA-I?t=3m46s" | Aug 09 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | The Tor Network [30c3] (with Jacob Applebaum) - YouTube | Aug 09 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697777 | Aug 09 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Old] GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation https://www.christopherprice.net/gplv4-starting-the-conversation-2580.html #gnu #gpl #gplv4 | Aug 09 18:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.christopherprice.net | GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation | Christopher Price [ http://ur1.ca/pkk96 ] | Aug 09 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Looks like GPLv3 is doing its job. It reads like companies bitching about having “their” cheap labour forces taken away. Bitching about ethics being enforced." | Aug 09 18:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694247 | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No, no. #microsoft LOOOOOVES #linux - there's even a piece of GIF to prove it, with a heart in the middle. https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/762395953890492416 | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Microsoft even screws up Linux: Reseacher explains security issues related to Windows 10 Linux subsystem at Blackhat https://t.co/sIhOro84F6 | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | "I see. Shame man. RedHat used to be sO cool. What are they doing now that’s ‘immoral’ in the free software world?" | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | FSF isn't fighting over it | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696717 | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft is looking for sources of income while laying off staff https://www.vg247.com/2016/07/26/epic-boss-thinks-microsoft-will-make-steam-progressively-worse-with-new-windows-10-updates/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Layoffs http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Though he believes this to be a possibility, Sweeney said that Microsoft “might not be competent enough” to actually bring this plan to fruition. | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.vg247.com | Epic boss thinks Microsoft will make Steam “progressively worse” with new Windows 10 updates [Update] | VG247 [ http://ur1.ca/pkhzw ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft - Layoffs - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/cn9t8 ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | HA! | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696902 | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "message I kept hearing over and over again is that what we do today in the security industry isn’t working.” http://sobersecurity.blogspot.com/2016/08/were-figuring-out-security-problem.html | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | "yep. there’s your business plan in a nutshell. use out of date but easy to implement security protocol, wait to get hacked, let your insurance pay everybody, starting with the hacker. don’t bother to even fire numbnuts who did the original security layout (you may yet need another excuse). issue press release: security upgrade implemented." | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> sobersecurity.blogspot.com | Sober Security: We're figuring out the security problem (finally) [ http://ur1.ca/pkliu ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696651 | Aug 09 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Media still floats the #snowden "dead" nonsense http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cryptic-edward-snowden-its-time-8579775 http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1595-bizarre-tweet-by-edward-snowden-sparks-fears-he-might-be-dead http://www.morningledger.com/edward-snowden-dead-tweet-confirms-death-over-nsa-leak/1390515/ | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mirror.co.uk | Cryptic Edward Snowden "it's time" tweet then bizarre coded message sparks fears whistleblower has been captured or killed - Mirror Online | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.neonnettle.com | Bizarre Tweet By Edward Snowden Sparks Fears He Might Be Dead | Neon Nettle | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.morningledger.com | Edward Snowden Dead: Tweet Confirms Death Over NSA Leak? | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | "A 256-bit number written in hexadecimal. Could be an RSA key, but I still think it’s more likely the output of sha256sum. It acknowledges receipt of a file." | Aug 09 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697563 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Will #Uber Go Under? http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/37141-will-uber-go-unter deserves to die. Utterly evil and dangerous company https://stallman.org/uber.html | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "there’ll soon be uber without uber via the blockchain… e.g. Arcade City (but even that is a start-up, to hell with start-ups)" | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.truth-out.org | Will Uber Go Under? | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> stallman.org | Reasons not to use Uber | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698134 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/election-2016-0 friend of Gates http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech | Alternet | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Its happening here in Argentina too.' | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | brazil too? | Aug 09 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Week in Solus – Install #33 https://solus-project.com/2016/08/07/this-week-in-solus-install-33/ #solus #gnu #linux | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Wow. Great work man!. How many years did you study fot?' | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #33 | Solus | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | 3-4 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697332 | Aug 09 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-5.8-Feature-Freeze-Coming #qt #freesw | Aug 09 18:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze - Phoronix | Aug 09 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | 'What is a ‘feature freeze’?" | Aug 09 18:09 |
| schestowitz | they stop adding new features and just fix bugs | Aug 09 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696361 | Aug 09 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People care about #us #politics because far more than any other county, it affects pretty much every county. Some get bombed, millions die. | Aug 09 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "In many ways it’s also the cultural capital of the world. The state of the US is felt by most westerners no matter if they live there or not." | Aug 09 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreascseh/status/763077898215444480 | Aug 10 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID. | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurielcalhoun/status/763081998353170433 | Aug 10 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@laurielcalhoun: More arms for #ISIS in development. When will the first shipment make its way to #Syria? #CausticIncompetenceAgency https://t.co/5eQhEqCstr | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The US Marines are testing a pocket-sized helicopter drone https://t.co/E9bc69kFmv #drones #surveillance for now, next a pistol | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | "More than 1 million without a job in #Germany up 10% compared to 2015 #Merkel #unemployment #EU $EURUSD http://mfor.hu/cikkek/makro/Kozel_1_millio_allastalan_van_Nemetorszagban.html … @schestowitz" | Aug 10 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mfor.hu | Közel 1 millió állástalan van Németországban - mfor.hu | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | He probably can. | Aug 10 00:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698135 | Aug 10 00:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2015: Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2015/12/08/donald-trump-thinks-he-can-call-bill-gates-to-shut-down-the-internet/ #microsoft #billgates #donaldRump | Aug 10 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | "He probably can." | Aug 10 00:52 |
| schestowitz | He has connections | Aug 10 00:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.forbes.com | Forbes Welcome [ http://ur1.ca/o9e28 ] | Aug 10 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697573 | Aug 10 00:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Apartheid #Israel 's war on #water https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water "impose horrific conditions on life for Palestinians" | Aug 10 00:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water ) | Aug 10 00:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | In 2011 alone, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) destroyed 89 water structures. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Because those were illegal. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | The only source of underground water in the West Bank is the Mountain Aquifer, of which Israel controls 80 percent. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | That’s according to the Oslo Accords (or rather: Israel provides even more water than required by the Oslo Accords). | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Palestinians are also not permitted to draw water from the Jordan River. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | There are hardly any water in the Jordan River. No, it’s not really a river. In much of the year you can cross it walking. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Right now there aren’t enough water for people in the northern Samaria area. Settlers included. There is a joint (Palestinian-Israel) committee that should meet to approve some new projects. However due to disagreements at the political level (both Israelis and Palestinians blame each other) it hadn’t had a meeting for quite some time. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696463 | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #checkpoint spam http://fossbytes.com/quadrooter-900-million-android-phones-at-risk-check-if-your-device-is-safe/ all 'smart' phones can be remotely hijacked anyway (baseband bugs), defective by design | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Life by obscurity." | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | "QuadRooter" Puts 900 Million Smartphones "At Risk" — How To Check If Your Device Is Safe [ http://ur1.ca/pklgz ] | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697625 | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary #Clinton is no feminist: Just look at her stance on #Palestine http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/clinton-no-feminist-just-look-her-stance-palestine-330867186 and Saudi money she takes... | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.middleeasteye.net | Hillary Clinton is no feminist: Just look at her stance on Palestine | Middle East Eye [ http://ur1.ca/pkn88 ] | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | Right. If she were a real feminist who cares for women rights, she would have demanded that Israel annex the West Bank and Gaza immediately. This will apply the liberal Israeli legislation instead of the Palestinian (and certainly: the Hamas one in Gaza). Hmm… this doesn’t make much sense. But then so does the argument of the original article. | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Here is an example of the fine logic of the article: | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Instead, she expressed her concern for Israelis, who must constantly watch for “lurking” Palestinian terrorists. She did not stop to consider why a few young Palestinians, including a 12-year-old girl, would wield knives; nor did she acknowledge that 70 percent of the attacks happened within the West Bank, meaning in occupied territory, against the occupier. But then, that is in keeping with her denial of the Israeli occupation. | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | So the author is one of those who think that “freedom fighters” can kill anyone they want, as long as they belong to the oppressor? That this gives them the right to just kill people in the middle of the street? | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Two wrongs don’t make a right. And Clinton does not condone such flawed reasoning. | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697638 | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Israel Calls on Citizens to Track and Report Activists in 'Ruthless' War Against #BDS http://commondreams.org/news/2016/08/08/israel-calls-citizens-track-and-report-activists-ruthless-war-against-bds moving further rightwards | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Just a reminder: the BDS movement hurts the cause of the Palestinians, as well as those of the Israelis." | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Israel Calls on Citizens to Track and Report Activists in 'Ruthless' War Against BDS | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/pkn8a ] | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | Hardly, unless you speak of the farmers | Aug 10 00:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697279 | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? http://hackerboards.com/is-that-a-debian-all-in-one-pc-in-your-pocket/ #debian #gnu #linux | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? [ http://ur1.ca/pkli0 ] | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | "True. I get used to using them. Pretty much how life is, not everything will be your way unless you fight for it and (in an example) get a free BIOS like libreboot." | Aug 10 00:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697332 | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-5.8-Feature-Freeze-Coming #qt #freesw | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh I see. That is very important, or else your backlog becomes unbearable or you simply cannot go forward with new features as bugs exist that shan’t allow these features to work properly." | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/pkn8g ] | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698134 | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/election-2016-0 friend of Gates http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | "It is happening worldwide' | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/pkn8i ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722 | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reuters.com | Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/p9bxr ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Week in Solus – Install #33 https://solus-project.com/2016/08/07/this-week-in-solus-install-33/ #solus #gnu #linux | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | "I see. I feel honoured to speak to you. Thank you." | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #33 | Solus [ http://ur1.ca/pkfue ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
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| schestowitz | me: | Aug 10 01:17 |
| schestowitz | "I have given a thought to the infrastructure, based on my own experience dealing with DDOS attacks. What might be useful is Varnish (I believe they have not added it yet) and ban2fail with low tolerance threshold, to eliminate offending IPs before they can slow down the back end or even overwhelm it (which happens not just due to malicious actors). CloudFlare tends to deny access to some Tor users and people who wish to access their public | Aug 10 01:17 |
| schestowitz | sites without running JavaScript etc. It's a subject I write about quite routinely online (CloudFlare staff are upset at me for saying it)." | Aug 10 01:17 |
| schestowitz | (at work) | Aug 10 01:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jeffcliff1/status/763167563450908672 | Aug 10 01:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jeffcliff1: https://t.co/kMqxsFahyD | Aug 10 01:31 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Filed a lawsuit over what's found inside #dncleaks and found dead shortly afterwards https://t.co/776F42s8EU #dncleak #wikileaks #clinton | Aug 10 01:31 | |
| schestowitz | re SUEPO: | Aug 10 01:36 |
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| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > https://news.mongabay.com/2016/08/hundreds-sickened-in-indonesias-aceh-as-peat-fires-burn/ | Aug 10 04:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.mongabay.com | Hundreds sickened in Indonesia's Aceh as peat fires burn [ http://ur1.ca/pkod5 ] | Aug 10 04:31 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > "for more than 60 years, religious groups have been forbidden from | Aug 10 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > electioneering." | Aug 10 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/black-pastors-pulpit-hillary-clinton/494876/ | Aug 10 04:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theatlantic.com | Black Pastors Speak Out in Support of Hillary Clinton From the Pulpit - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/pkod7 ] | Aug 10 04:31 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:31 |
| schestowitz | > "Only in Rosengård area has been built 31 car fires in the last two weeks" | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.sydsvenskan.se/2016-08-08/bilbrand-pa-von-rosens-vag | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.sydsvenskan.se | Flera nya bilbränder i Malmö under natten - Sydsvenskan [ http://ur1.ca/pkod8 ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.sydsvenskan.se/2016-08-08/bilbrand-pa-von-rosens-vag | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/pkod9 ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > Rosengård is just one suburb but Malmö is not alone in the epidemic | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > "Chicago police officers were caught double-checking to make sure their | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > body cameras were off and reportedly giving each other “high-fives” | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > after the fatal shooting" | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/08/chicago-pd-paul-oneal-video/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theroot.com | Chicago Police Officers Allegedly Caught High-Fiving After 'Execution' of Paul O'Neal [ http://ur1.ca/pkoda ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730579/As-Rio-Olympics-kicks-eerie-photographs-reveal-derelict-sites-past-games.html | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dailymail.co.uk | The decaying former Olympic sites across the world | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/pkodc ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.salon.com/2016/08/09/sorry-you-lost-your-home-americans-deserve-more-than-an-apology-for-the-foreclosure-fraud-epidemic/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.salon.com | Sorry you lost your home: Americans deserve more than an apology for the foreclosure fraud epidemic - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/pkode ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/trumps-speech-on-fossil-fuels-was-riddled-with-lies-and-inaccuracies | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | Trump’s Speech Was Riddled With Lies and Inaccuracies About Fossil Fuels | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pkodf ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > x | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-green-party-is-a-joke_us_57a8c341e4b0aae2a5a0a464 | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.huffingtonpost.com | The Green Party Takes Itself Very Seriously, But No One Else Should [ http://ur1.ca/pkodg ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > I forgot and read the huffpo by accident | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://time.com/4444829/facebook-ad-blocker/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-time.com | Facebook Takes Steps to Block Ad-Blockers [ http://ur1.ca/pkodh ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > malware not mentioned | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > "Facebook is an IAB member." | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-will-force-advertising-on-ad-blocking-users-1470751204 | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.wsj.com | Facebook Will Force Advertising on Ad-Blocking Users - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/pkodi ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > needs those back doors delivered in-browser | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://ideas.ted.com/why-online-privacy-matters-and-how-to-protect-yours/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ideas.ted.com | Why online privacy matters — and how to protect yours | [ http://ur1.ca/pkodj ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > https://torrentfreak.com/facebook-removes-extratorrent-page-deletes-user-profiles-flags-links-160809/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-torrentfreak.com | Facebook Removes ExtraTorrent Page, Deletes User Profiles, Flags Links - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/pkodk ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/ad-board-to-comcast-stop-claiming-you-have-the-fastest-internet/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | Ad board to Comcast: Stop claiming you have the “fastest Internet” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/pkodl ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/court-feds-must-get-warrant-to-search-e-mail-even-if-cops-find-child-porn/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | Court: Feds must get warrant to search e-mail, even if cops find child porn | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/pkodm ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/9/12404468/cable-hulu-netflix-amazon-cord-cutting | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theverge.com | Why I’m finally leaving cable TV | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/pkodn ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.newscientist.com/article/2100412-beyond-pokemon-go-augmented-reality-is-set-to-transform-gaming/ | Aug 10 04:32 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.newscientist.com | Beyond Pokémon Go: augmented reality is set to transform gaming | New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/pkodo ] | Aug 10 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | > http://news.softpedia.com/news/annoying-open-pdf-in-edge-default-option-puts-windows-10-users-in-danger-507138.shtml | Aug 10 04:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.softpedia.com | Annoying "Open PDF in Edge" Default Option Puts Windows 10 Users at Risk [ http://ur1.ca/pkodp ] | Aug 10 04:33 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 10 04:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.smh.com.au/national/census-website-attacked-by-hackers-abs-claims-20160809-gqouum.html | Aug 10 04:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.smh.com.au | Census website attacked by hackers, ABS claims [ http://ur1.ca/pkodr ] | Aug 10 04:33 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Kaz4Wokingham/status/763292166999445504 | Aug 10 09:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Kaz4Wokingham: @schestowitz If no-one in the community can sign this and win the local election...why is war the easy option here? https://t.co/SLRnng61oe | Aug 10 09:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Kaz4Wokingham: @schestowitz If no-one in the community can sign this and win the local election...why is war the easy option here? https://t.co/SLRnng61oe | Aug 10 09:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763292726024515584 | Aug 10 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive i'm not sure that's completely accurate. | Aug 10 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Eatherly | Aug 10 09:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Claude Eatherly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Aug 10 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763293534786981888 | Aug 10 09:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz it's disputed, but my personal research leads me to believe it's true. Just my opinion. | Aug 10 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | with some exceptions like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tibbets#Post-war_military_career | Aug 10 09:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Paul Tibbets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pkpuh ] | Aug 10 09:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294211340767233 | Aug 10 09:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive your assertion is that claude eatherly is a pilot who dropped a bomb on nagasaki and hiroshima? | Aug 10 09:42 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294408263372800 | Aug 10 09:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz citation needed. i met tibbets at eglin. he seemed neither insane nor dead by suicide. | Aug 10 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sweeney | Aug 10 09:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Charles Sweeney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pkpvd ] | Aug 10 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294705304035329 | Aug 10 09:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz parsons was so consumed by guilt he stayed in the navy for another decade. | Aug 10 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294934493302785 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz sweeny was outspoken about his fervent desire that nuclear weapons never be used again, but was not suicidal | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295002004819968 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz no he supported it, didn't drop the bomb | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295119722151936 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz "the pilots who dropped the bombs either went insane, committed suicide, or tried to. Karma." | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295255844184064 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I was citing the article | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295371988652032 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz also. the pilots didn't drop the bombs, but that's a nit pick. | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295374886834176 | Aug 10 09:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I've been researching this shit for 30 years | Aug 10 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295487181017089 https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295547968987136 | Aug 10 09:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz which article? | Aug 10 09:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I'm still learning as new stuff comes out | Aug 10 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/09/christianity-and-the-nagasaki-bomb/ http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201608090041.html | Aug 10 09:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-consortiumnews.com | Christianity and the Nagasaki Bomb – Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/pkpw4 ] | Aug 10 09:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.asahi.com | Nagasaki mayor tells world: Visit to see how nukes affect humans：The Asahi Shimbun [ http://ur1.ca/pkpw6 ] | Aug 10 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295845038985217 | Aug 10 09:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz if you said "some pilots involved in the operation were consumed w/ grief." i would buy that. | Aug 10 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295887489511424 | Aug 10 09:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz https://t.co/HTyZQjjUlG | Aug 10 09:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.huffingtonpost.com | 71 Years Ago: When Truman Failed To Pause -- And The Nagasaki War Crime Followed | Aug 10 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nani194347/status/763295972780834816 | Aug 10 09:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Nani194347: @schestowitz I don't think so. | Aug 10 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763296036664152064 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763296093723426816 https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763296100367249408 | Aug 10 09:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz yes. i have actually been to the peace park in nagasaki. | Aug 10 09:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz you don't have to make shit up to turn this into a compelling narrative. | Aug 10 09:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz well yeah even einstein went into a depression | Aug 10 09:50 | |
| schestowitz | well, his second letter was too late | Aug 10 09:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763296526403723268 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763296606049361920 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763297021646155776 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763297177690972160 https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763297367168684033 | Aug 10 09:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I'm confused "the pilots didn't drop the bombs" | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz citation needed. | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive this article mentions nothing about suicidal bomber pilots beset with grief. | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive yes. the mayors of nagasaki & hiroshima re-read the peace pledge every year in a ceremony. | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz my tweet was "71 Years Ago: When Truman Failed To Pause" | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763298022553886720 | Aug 10 09:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz this article also does not mention suicidal bomber pilots beset with grief. | Aug 10 09:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763298152476663809 | Aug 10 09:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz pilots fly planes. bombardiers drop bombs. | Aug 10 09:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763298883648655361 | Aug 10 10:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I'm simply outside of my element, I RT'd an article about something I'm still researching. Lay the fuck off. | Aug 10 10:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763299860724404224 | Aug 10 10:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive i'm not sure i have a problem with you. my problem is with @schestowitz claiming tibbets, albury, tibbets or lewis went insane | Aug 10 10:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/763303069106995200 | Aug 10 10:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SeaH2ONymph: @schestowitz Ridiculous assertion here: "In the first such attacks since 11 April..." | Aug 10 10:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BERNintoNITE/status/763304870589763584 | Aug 10 10:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BERNintoNITE: #YEMEN https://t.co/MYSlDQMJs7 | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: 500 days of fighting in Yemen: Humanitarian crisis is 'untenable' https://t.co/847BetDzG0 collective punishment again. #yemen | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/763305405804122112 | Aug 10 10:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SeaH2ONymph: #Yemen #US-sold bombs dropped by US-sold planes refueled by US Air Force as #Saudi gives #AlQaeda cover #InANutshell https://t.co/Yfu7Bkl79b | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Centcom Statement Presents War on Shi'ite Houthis as About al-Qaeda" https://t.co/v7srEciTDB remember #clinton funded by Saudis (personal) | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/763264458017873921 | Aug 10 10:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Linux TCP flaw enables remote attacks https://t.co/3xJvsbK0Lj https://t.co/zPKfmgjwlA #linux #security | Aug 10 10:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.itwire.com | iTWire - Linux TCP flaw enables remote attacks | Aug 10 10:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.sciencedaily.com | NO TITLE | Aug 10 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/763306078012600320 | Aug 10 10:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GringoPeruano: "When systems crumble & their critics divide into the two camps, the reformists usually prevail" #BRexit #TheresaMay https://t.co/VPC5shwmtn | Aug 10 10:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Wolff "finds capitalism irreparably inadequate and seeks transition to a new and different system." https://t.co/l50Hv15Ike | Aug 10 10:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/763316828705783808 | Aug 10 11:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz Trump&Trumper :) | Aug 10 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | There was a Palin rendition of that | Aug 10 11:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/clownf1st/status/763328115133255680 | Aug 10 11:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@clownf1st: @schestowitz read Eric Schlosser's 'Command & Control' recently. Brilliant and terrifying. | Aug 10 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.insidecounsel.com/2016/08/10/investing-in-new-technologies-how-corporate-legal?slreturn=1470828308 | Aug 10 12:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.insidecounsel.com | Investing in new technologies: How corporate legal departments are leading the way | Aug 10 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Efficiency is now essential for legal departments, and this has advanced software's role and accelerated technology adoption." Jeremiah Chan, Legal Director, Global Patents at Google, also is seeing more technology embraced by the GC's office | Aug 10 12:25 |
| schestowitz | https://mobile.twitter.com/glynmoody/status/763313492262789121 | Aug 10 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/pkqwo ] | Aug 10 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | Not when they're made against people of power, and not BY people in power (like Trump) | Aug 10 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/763353314931122176 | Aug 10 17:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JesselynRadack: Thinly-veiled suggestion by #Trump that someone cud shoot #Hillary has extremely tenuous 1st Amend protection https://t.co/okWZ5OeG3W | Aug 10 17:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Aug 10 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/763339831682498560 | Aug 10 17:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @Sheikh_al_Touar @schestowitz epo? | Aug 10 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | Oops, typo. I meant EPA | Aug 10 17:12 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/08/norwegian-supreme-court-no.html?showComment=1470827698645#c148223391655095640 | Aug 10 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Norwegian Supreme Court: no "retransmission" without "transmission" | Aug 10 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | I thought about the word 'retransmission' quite a while. | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | It seems that the word 'retransmission' is a significant limitation in comparison a 'further/subsequent communication'. I would avoid the word 'retransmission' as much as I could since it can unnecessary limit application of the law in future situations. | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | 'Retransmission' is more or less a technically defined event. While a 'further/subsequent communication' does not dependent on particular communication techniques and is linked only to the effect/result achieved with such a subsequent communication. | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 17:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700022 | Aug 10 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Linux #Kernel 4.7 Now Unofficially Available for #Slackware 14.2 and Derivatives http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-4-7-now-unofficially-available-for-slackware-14-2-and-derivatives-507136.shtml #gnu | Aug 10 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "I have never used Slackware. I should try it out oneday." | Aug 10 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.7 Now Unofficially Available for Slackware 14.2 and Derivatives | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700226 | Aug 10 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Let's hope for a judge who understands #programming (and same from the Jury if it's a jury trial) https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/763044867857608704 #googacle | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Meanwhile judges want to tell us about how Tor doesn’t work." | Aug 10 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FOSSpatents: A 3rd #Googacle trial *will* happen. No doubt. A key hearing will take place in a week from tomorrow. https://t.co/ag57niG9Ju #java #android | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | Or rather, how it's only for "criminals" | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700002 | Aug 10 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If Pres candidates were OSes, #clinton =OS X (glossy, user-betraying), Trump=Windows, #gnu #linux would be #greensUSA small, modest, ethical | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Pretty close. Though Jill Stein is giving a platform to unethical vaccine-denial nonsense." | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Well gnu Linux still accepts easily proprietary blobs for convenience. Many many dists support non free software in their packages repository. | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Afaik, OpenBSD does great job to limit that tradeoff as much as possible. | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | But ok this is BSD license, nit GPL. | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | No, Jill Stein gives a platform for FDA sceptics, not anti-vaxxers. That's a lie. http://www.jill2016.com/baseless_anti_vax_attacks_against_dr_jill_stein_distract_from_concerns | Aug 10 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.jill2016.com | Baseless “Anti-Vax” Attacks Against Dr. Jill Stein Distract from Her Call to End the Corrupting Influence of the Pharmaceutical Industry Within the FDA - Jill Stein 2016 | Aug 10 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700027 | Aug 10 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LinuxMint 18: Fresher Than Ever http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83781.html?rss=1 #gnu #linux | Aug 10 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I really love the idea of X-apps." | Aug 10 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "I like Linux Mint. Let’s see what’s new. But there should also be a support of KDE P. 5!" | Aug 10 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxinsider.com | Linux Mint 18: Fresher Than Ever | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Aug 10 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I’d love to see support for KDE Plasma 5." | Aug 10 18:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't like Plasma5, at least not yet (used it for a year) | Aug 10 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699674 | Aug 10 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/WikiLeaks-Offers-20K-Reward-for-Information-in-Murder-of-DNC-Staffer-Seth-Rich-389622801.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand #dncleaks #dncleak | Aug 10 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:07 |
| schestowitz | A reward of as much as $25,000 is also being offered by the Metropolitan Police Department. | Aug 10 18:07 |
| schestowitz | So is that the wikileaks 20 plus another 5? | Aug 10 18:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.nbcwashington.com | WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer | NBC4 Washington | Aug 10 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | It sounds like the police dept is trying to get their hands on the info so they can lie about it then release it to the public. | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | MAYBE KINDA A LITTLE BIT LIKE VINCE FOSTER… >.> | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | I never heard of him | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699997 | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #VineLinux 6.5 Enters Beta, Adopts Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, Glibc 2.23 & GCC 4.9.3 http://news.softpedia.com/news/vine-linux-6-5-enters-beta-adopts-linux-kernel-4-4-lts-glibc-2-23-gcc-4-9-3-507124.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Vine looks minimalist. I like it. They need an English site though." | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Berry also | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Vine Linux 6.5 Enters Beta, Adopts Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, Glibc 2.23 & GCC 4.9.3 | Aug 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699937 | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Some "photos show the decaying former Olympic sites across the world" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730579/As-Rio-Olympics-kicks-eerie-photographs-reveal-derelict-sites-past-games.html #olympics #waste #politics | Aug 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "What happened to good old fashioned squatting? I see the potential for Lotus Ponds, Paradise Gardens overflowing with food, and communal living…" | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.dailymail.co.uk | The decaying former Olympic sites across the world | Daily Mail Online | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700146 | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.3 Adds HiDPI Improvements, Linux Minimal Mode http://news.softpedia.com/news/owncloud-desktop-client-2-2-3-adds-hidpi-improvements-linux-minimal-mode-507134.shtml #freesw | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730579/As-Rio-Olympics-kicks-eerie-photographs-reveal-derelict-sites-past-games.html" | Aug 10 18:09 |
| schestowitz | it's already out | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.3 Adds HiDPI Improvements, Linux Minimal Mode | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Can’t wait for #Nextcloud." | Aug 10 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697937 | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Olympics fan claims Twitter killed his account after posting Rio videos http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/08/olympics-fan-claims-twitter-killed-account-rio-videos/ #twitter #censorship #copyright | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Apparently, Twitter is the law." | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.co.uk | Olympics fan claims Twitter killed his account after posting Rio videos [Updated] | Ars Technica UK | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | They call it chokepoints, Facebook also, they just need to police these to control communications | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699985 | Aug 10 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Version of #GParted http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/new-version-gparted #gnu #linux #partitioning #freesw #livecd | Aug 10 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "GParted’s Live CD is one of the best tools any computer owner should have." | Aug 10 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxjournal.com | New Version of GParted | Linux Journal | Aug 10 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | I have mine here, for years now... just in case | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7701030 | Aug 10 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More people have been killed in the #iraq #oil invasion than in the #japan bombings. #bush worse than #truman but no nukes? | Aug 10 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | D.U. bombs all over Iraq ! | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | depleted uranium is nuclear ! | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Don't tell the soldiers who want to Iraq and might get tumours later in life. They might - gasp -sue | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | *went | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700085 | Aug 10 18:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moodle App Could Be a Game Changer for Community Organizations http://fossforce.com/2016/08/moodle-app-community-organizations/ I deployed it a few times. #freesw #education | Aug 10 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | Moddle is great. My school uses it at moodle.bridgehouse.org.za as well as my brother’s animation college." | Aug 10 18:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossforce.com | Moodle App Could Be a Game Changer for Community Organizations | FOSS Force | Aug 10 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | Hope it spreads | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698016 | Aug 10 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Medical Researchers Want Up To Five Years Exclusivity For Clinical Trial Data Derived From Volunteers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/08460835154/medical-researchers-want-up-to-five-years-exclusivity-clinical-trial-data-derived-volunteers.shtml disgusting. | Aug 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "What a disgraceful thing." | Aug 10 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Medical Researchers Want Up To Five Years Exclusivity For Clinical Trial Data Derived From Volunteers | Techdirt | Aug 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Even academia has been corrupted. | Aug 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7478763 | Aug 10 18:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wurstaufbrot@pod.geraspora.de reshared: Fairphone's Google-free open source OS is now available to download http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/29/11535332/fairphone-os-open-source | Aug 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | durchs Zimmer tanz | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Endlich! Mein nagelneues Fairphone 2 liegt seit über einer Woche ungenutzt zuhause, weil ich auf dieses Release gewartet habe. Endlich hat die Quälerei mit dem übelst sturzgeschädigten Galaxy S3 ein Ende :-D | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theverge.com | Fairphone's Google-free open source OS is now available to download | The Verge | Aug 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Freut mich für dich :-)" | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Da hast du aber lang gewartet :-D Gibt’s schon 'ne Weile…" | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Moooment… | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | …Autsch. Ich habe da eben etwas verwechselt und mich darum zu früh gefreut. Das ist ja nur ein ganz normales 5er-Android abzüglich der Google-Dienste. D. h. es gibt keine Rechteverwaltung von Apps, außer der ausgesprochen umständlichen und nur teilweise funktionierenden Notlösung SRT Appguard. | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Eine Alternative wie CyanogenMod gibt es weiterhin nicht für das FP2. Hilft wohl nix, ich werde meinen Kram erstmal provisorisch auf das Fairphone OS umziehen müssen und später nochmal auf das “richtig freie” OS. Bisher hatte ich nämlich sowieso keine Zeit für Umzugsaktionen, aber dieses WE werde ich die haben. Und da werde ich ganz sicher nicht nur rumsitzen und meinem S3 beim Sterben zusehen… | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Warte auch auf CM für das FP2… Freier als CM ist FP OSOS schon, würde ich sagen. Aber ich kann selbst nicht auf die CM-typischen Features verzichten.' | Aug 10 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ShearTheSheep/status/763583462674661376 https://twitter.com/ShearTheSheep/status/763583516265373696 | Aug 11 04:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ShearTheSheep: #Yaba's a strange, difficult one, yeah? @schestowitz @ncbi @rabite | Aug 11 04:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ShearTheSheep: #BabaYaba @ncbi @rabite @schestowitz | Aug 11 04:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/763633952070504448 | Aug 11 10:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz lol, #monsanto developing and patenting canabis strains ... | Aug 11 10:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/THD_IT/status/763636042146742272 | Aug 11 10:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@THD_IT: Et ils veulent nous refourger TTIP avec leurs standarts d'empoisonnement de masse... https://t.co/o7aazYzrEr | Aug 11 10:32 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Bad #water "linked to increased risks of kidney cancer, thyroid problems, high cholesterol and hormone disruption" https://t.co/maDm0QCySY | Aug 11 10:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ClaireSuzon/status/763663898213949440 | Aug 11 10:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ClaireSuzon: @schestowitz 16.6M po ang bumoto kay duterte...yung roxas bayot mo nilampaso hahahahaha | Aug 11 10:32 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/humans-have-used-all-the-earths-resources-for-the-year-overshoot-day | Aug 11 11:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | Humans Have Used All the Earth’s Resources for the Year | Motherboard | Aug 11 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > "social media is wasted time" | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-09/online-gaming-can-boost-school-scores/7703070 | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.businessinsider.com/a-potential-toxin-in-water-exceeds-whats-considered-healthy-for-6-million-people-2016-8 | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.abc.net.au | Online gaming may boost school scores but social media is wasted time, study suggests - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) | Aug 11 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | > http://yle.fi/uutiset/high_school_price_tag_2000_euros/9083126 | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > could have used a mention of Open Access text books | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > "Many times it's literally just children mounting these attacks" | Aug 11 11:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.businessinsider.com | Study: 6 million exposed to high levels of chemicals in drinking water - Business Insider | Aug 11 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | > ... | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > "It can be done with a relatively simple set-up or one can pay "a very | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > small amount of money" to have someone pull it off on one's behalf." | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/if-census-was-taken-down-after-ddos-attack-it-wasnt-prepared-enough-expert-20160809-gqowfr.html | Aug 11 11:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-yle.fi | High school price tag: 2,000 euros | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi | Aug 11 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/74252-census-2016-abs-needs-to-provide-proof-of-ddos.html | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-resistance/20865-shocking-audio-surfaces-khomeini-s-ex-heir-acknowledges-massacre-of-pmoi-by-iran-regime | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/08/09/how-did-facebook-get-my-number-and-why-is-it-giving-my-name-out/ | Aug 11 11:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.smh.com.au | If census site was taken down after DDoS attack it wasn't prepared: expert | Aug 11 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/290947-researchers-crack-microsoft-feature-say-encryption-backdoors-similarly | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com/article/3106086/web-browsers/chrome-to-make-flash-mostly-dead-in-early-december.html | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.itwire.com | iTWire - Census 2016: ABS needs to provide proof of DDoS | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/article/3106007/software/google-chromes-plan-to-kill-flash-kicks-into-high-gear.html | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > "Qatar are creating a fake team" | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/qatar-wanted-a-team-for-the-rio-olympics-so-it-headhunted-one-20160810-gqpr7g.html | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ncr-iran.org | NCRI - National Council of Resistance of Iran - Shocking audio surfaces: Khomeini’s ex-heir acknowledges massacre of PMOI by Iran regime | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > " In order to allow society to discuss forbidden ideas, ideas that may | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > turn out to be in the right, a much wider Freedom of Speech is needed: | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > one that requires Privacy." | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/dont-freedom-speech-without-privacy/ | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | How did Facebook get my number? And why is it giving my name out to strangers? | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > https://torrentfreak.com/russia-plans-social-media-piracy-crackdown-160810/ | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thehill.com | Researchers crack Microsoft feature, say encryption backdoors similarly crackable | TheHill | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/linux-bug-leaves-usa-today-other-top-sites-vulnerable-to-serious-hijacking-attacks/ | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/10/11950098/twitter-isis-lawsuit-safe-harbor-terrorism | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.computerworld.com | Chrome to make Flash mostly-dead in early December | Computerworld | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > "This is a cult created by Fox News and the right wing media" | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > ... | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > "This is an incredibly volatile and dangerous situation..." | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.pcworld.com | Google Chrome's plan to kill Flash kicks into high gear | PCWorld | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2016/08/the-trump-cult-is-one-without-a-leader-trump-is-only-its-willing-figurehead.html | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home/everyone-is-quitting | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > ? | Aug 11 11:21 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.smh.com.au | Qatar wanted a team for the Rio Olympics, so it headhunted one | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | > https://www.usenix.org/conferences/test-of-time-awards | Aug 11 11:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.privateinternetaccess.com | You don't have Freedom of Speech without Privacy | Privacy Online News | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-torrentfreak.com | Russia Plans Social Media Piracy Crackdown - TorrentFreak | Aug 11 11:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | Linux bug leaves USA Today, other top sites vulnerable to serious hijacking attacks | Ars Technica | Aug 11 11:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theverge.com | Twitter is not legally responsible for the rise of ISIS, rules California district court | The Verge | Aug 11 11:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: The Trump Cult Is One Without A Leader. Trump is Only Its Willing Figurehead | Aug 11 11:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sites.google.com | Everyone is quitting - The FACE of Amazon | Aug 11 11:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.usenix.org/conferences/test-of-time-awards ) | Aug 11 11:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706317 | Aug 11 23:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Arch Linux Is Now Officially Powered by Linux Kernel 4.7, Update Your Systems http://news.softpedia.com/news/arch-linux-is-now-officially-powered-by-linux-kernel-4-7-update-your-systems-507224.shtml | Aug 11 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | "has a new security module #LoadPin: it makes sure that modules loaded by the Linux kernel originate from a single file system…goodidea" | Aug 11 23:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Is Now Officially Powered by Linux Kernel 4.7, Update Your Systems | Aug 11 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/763864477016219652 | Aug 11 23:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Do you ever sleep? | Aug 11 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | Life is too short for sleep (wink, just kidding) | Aug 11 23:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/763865522660339712 | Aug 11 23:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz surveillance phone's connection icon | Aug 11 23:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/4x9h8j/microsoft_says_it_loves_linux_but_its_antilinux/ | Aug 12 08:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 12 08:06 |
| schestowitz | Fucking stupid headline. | Aug 12 08:06 |
| schestowitz | A former MS employee started a patent troll company and suddenly it's a "Microsoft patent troll company". | Aug 12 08:06 |
| schestowitz | I guess the distillery I currently am a partner in is an HP Distillery since I used to work for HP? | Aug 12 08:06 |
| schestowitz | Get out of here with this sensationalized bullshit. | Aug 12 08:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Says It Loves Linux, But Its Anti-Linux Patent Trolls Are Still Around and Active : StallmanWasRight | Aug 12 08:06 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 12 08:06 |
| schestowitz | Funded by Microsoft and Gates | Aug 12 08:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/silentlennie/status/764004422892433408 | Aug 12 08:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@silentlennie: Strange article debunks itself and has no facts why one is more secure than the other. Other than: less successful. https://t.co/x8co4MCdLG | Aug 12 08:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: How open source platform #Ghost solves security and productivity for bloggers https://t.co/qpWhVNcLNu #freesw | Aug 12 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/cheekbyname/status/764014126674784257 | Aug 12 09:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@cheekbyname: @schestowitz Ugh, PHP? I'll take my chances with the asteroid ;-) | Aug 12 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/764016431377756162 | Aug 12 09:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sine_injuria: #NewsBud @NewsBud_ @csoghoian @schestowitz @jmpy_awake #Linux #VirtualBox #VPN at risk https://t.co/VNTh3y5Me7 | Aug 12 09:36 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CyberHitchhiker: Researchers announce Linux kernel “network snooping” bug https://t.co/212pGoCT0R #InfoSec | Aug 12 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/764035705379119105 | Aug 12 10:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: Democracy in an ethnically divided country ends up in panga season. https://t.co/lyM6DVJzxG | Aug 12 10:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Why does the west turn a blind eye to #Rwanda dictatorship? https://t.co/recc9JykNb "authoritarian controls and political violence." | Aug 12 10:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nilecoy/status/764138039908052994 | Aug 12 17:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@nilecoy: @matthewstinar @schestowitz @truthout They made a movie about that called "Network". 40 years ago. | Aug 12 17:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/764159994577227776 | Aug 12 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @DrJillStein @schestowitz Don't forget Zion.... | Aug 12 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/issagaro/status/764162004252823552 | Aug 12 19:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@issagaro: @schestowitz I saw this video some time ago,couldn't believe a child could be assaulted like this.Niya's response was natural,not criminal. | Aug 12 19:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709692 | Aug 12 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are companies allowed to tweet about #Rio2016? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/08/are-companies-allowed-to-tweet-about.html abandon the #olympics - it's just business piggypacking dopers and cheats | Aug 12 19:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Are companies allowed to tweet about #Rio2016? | Aug 12 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764170706951270400 | Aug 12 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz the idea of the Olympics was to give states a common cause that wasn't a common enemy, thus reducing the risk of war. | Aug 12 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Even in Greek times? | Aug 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/764172118305173505 | Aug 12 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @TheOliverStone @SnowdenTheMovie The irony that many will dismiss as "cinematic" and ignore root cause. | Aug 12 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764173647594520576 | Aug 12 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Hmm, that's an interesting question. I don't actually know. Maybe! I meant the modern revival, though. | Aug 12 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Sounds revisionist | Aug 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | The Olympic games took place in Germany just as the country was moving straight into a world war of its own making | Aug 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764178665659830272 | Aug 12 20:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz To engage seriously in revisionism, we would need to consult primary sources. | Aug 12 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764178852130283520 | Aug 12 20:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Yeah, the Olympics haven't been notably successful at that goal, although we don't have a control world to compare to | Aug 12 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | The games can create envy | Aug 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764179779939622912 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764179821375225856 | Aug 12 20:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz yes, and they certainly strengthen states versus civil society and transnational organizations; stronger states = more war. | Aug 12 20:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz but that wasn't the ideology. | Aug 12 20:21 | |
| schestowitz | I believe (but unsure) that the Greek games originally involved death/executions for entertainment as well, like bullfighting | Aug 12 20:22 |
| schestowitz | whether these were separate from Olympia I don't know | Aug 12 20:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764187868491317248 | Aug 12 20:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Wouldn't be surprising. Probably easy to find out the ansewr | Aug 12 20:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/764192016729112576 | Aug 12 21:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: There is also #Hubzilla https://t.co/fVPc0pKwO5 Although I installed its previous incarnation(RedMatrix) to no avail https://t.co/u6Nvup34ZH | Aug 12 21:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> github.com | GitHub - redmatrix/hubzilla: build community websites that can interact with one another | Aug 12 21:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: If people fail to embrace decentralised communication platforms like #diaspora they'll let billionaires control communication. #joindiaspora | Aug 12 21:11 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700085 | Aug 13 07:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moodle App Could Be a Game Changer for Community Organizations http://fossforce.com/2016/08/moodle-app-community-organizations/ I deployed it a few times. #freesw #education | Aug 13 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | "I do so. It’s great." | Aug 13 07:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossforce.com | Moodle App Could Be a Game Changer for Community Organizations | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/pl740 ] | Aug 13 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709470 | Aug 13 07:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mike Morell’s Kill-Russians Advice https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/12/mike-morells-kill-russians-advice/ what a bloody moron, and professionally #clinton -connected. Nuclear war soon? | Aug 13 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | "The rightists are defecting to Clinton because they think Trump is reckless and incompetent, not because they oppose his policies or ideology. They really don’t like Clinton but they know she is very unlikely to press the button. The conservatives are not ready for nuclear or economic Armageddon just yet. That’s why they are jumping the Trump ship. So don’t assume that she shares the ideology of every conservative that endorses her. | Aug 13 07:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> consortiumnews.com | Mike Morell’s Kill-Russians Advice – Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/pl744 ] | Aug 13 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | Nuclear war soon if Trump wins. And please don’t fall for the isolationist trick again. Bush was never an isolationist and neither is trump. Both Reagan and GW Bush were supposedly “insurgent”, “anti-establishment” candidates lol. How many times will they succeed in pulling off that deception?" | Aug 13 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Right now, with blame on Russia where there's none, Clinton pushes for nuclear war with Russia a lot faster than Trump does | Aug 13 07:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7704531 | Aug 13 07:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #windows & #vista10 have no disk #encryption only an illusion thereof. Microsoft uploads a copy of the private keys. Proven fact. | Aug 13 07:04 | |
| schestowitz | " http://www.securityweek.com/microsoft-stores-windows-10-encryption-keys-cloud " | Aug 13 07:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.securityweek.com | Microsoft Stores Windows 10 Encryption Keys in the Cloud | SecurityWeek.Com [ http://ur1.ca/pl747 ] | Aug 13 07:04 | |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Aug 13 07:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/771002 | Aug 13 07:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@khaos@diasp.de: Ok, ich vermute mal das soll der Vorbote für die Einführung in Deutschland sein, damit die FDP noch mitreden darf. Bundesverfassungsgericht: Fünf-Prozent-Hürde bei Europawahl unzulässig | Politik | ZEIT ONLINE - http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2011-11/europawahl-parlament-sperrklausel #politics #europe #fdp | Aug 13 07:04 | |
| schestowitz | "#fuckers " | Aug 13 07:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.zeit.de | Bundesverfassungsgericht: Fünf-Prozent-Hürde bei Europawahl unzulässig | ZEIT ONLINE [ http://ur1.ca/pl749 ] | Aug 13 07:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698016 | Aug 13 07:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Medical Researchers Want Up To Five Years Exclusivity For Clinical Trial Data Derived From Volunteers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/08460835154/medical-researchers-want-up-to-five-years-exclusivity-clinical-trial-data-derived-volunteers.shtml disgusting. | Aug 13 07:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 07:05 |
| schestowitz | Money buys such people, but they may not be representative. The people running my profession’s journal are obnoxious copyright maximalists and there is a lot of resistance to them. At least two independent journals have been set up over the issue. The story about Monsanto’s toadies getting Seralini’s gmo study pulled is a universal scandal. I can only hope that academia at follows the general population’s view of copyright and access | Aug 13 07:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Medical Researchers Want Up To Five Years Exclusivity For Clinical Trial Data Derived From Volunteers | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pl74e ] | Aug 13 07:05 | |
| schestowitz | issues. | Aug 13 07:05 |
| schestowitz | The disgrace is double when the ABA is passing resolutions calling for better public access. | Aug 13 07:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 07:05 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't aware of that, makes me optimistic now | Aug 13 07:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700027 | Aug 13 07:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LinuxMint 18: Fresher Than Ever http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83781.html?rss=1 #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:06 | |
| schestowitz | "In terms of something I’d actally use. Then I’d say MATE, Triskel (GNOME 2) or GNOME 3. But Triskel is the best (distraction free) and usable for everyday users and developers." | Aug 13 07:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxinsider.com | Linux Mint 18: Fresher Than Ever | Reviews | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/pksm9 ] | Aug 13 07:06 | |
| schestowitz | I'll stick with openbox | Aug 13 07:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700226 | Aug 13 07:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Let's hope for a judge who understands #programming (and same from the Jury if it's a jury trial) https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/763044867857608704 #googacle | Aug 13 07:06 | |
| schestowitz | "I wish some technical expert would just dress them the fuck down. Arrogant twats." | Aug 13 07:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FOSSpatents: A 3rd #Googacle trial *will* happen. No doubt. A key hearing will take place in a week from tomorrow. https://t.co/ag57niG9Ju #java #android | Aug 13 07:06 | |
| schestowitz | Start with the wigs | Aug 13 07:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7707980 | Aug 13 07:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Leftophobia would have us believe that it's "anti-white" to want healthcare for the poor, education for all, no wars. #LabourLeadership | Aug 13 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | "“Leftophobia”? Do you mean rightism?" | Aug 13 07:07 |
| schestowitz | No, just people who are against politicians like Corbyn and Sanders | Aug 13 07:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703373 | Aug 13 07:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #KDE Announces the First Public Release of Their #Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-announces-the-first-public-release-of-their-kirigami-ui-framework-for-mobile-507187.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | KDE Announces the First Public Release of Their Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile | Aug 13 07:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Very Niece ! :)" | Aug 13 07:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709561 | Aug 13 07:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #JillStein and the #GreenParty Add More Ballot Lines This Week http://commondreams.org/newswire/2016/08/12/jill-stein-and-green-party-add-more-ballot-lines-week might soon not be a niche anymore | Aug 13 07:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 07:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Jill Stein and the Green Party Add More Ballot Lines This Week | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community | Aug 13 07:08 | |
| schestowitz | Do you want to be on the Clinton kill list? | Aug 13 07:08 |
| schestowitz | Because this is how you get on the Clinton kill list. | Aug 13 07:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 07:08 |
| schestowitz | Will take my chances :-) | Aug 13 07:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709854 | Aug 13 07:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I often get the feeling/sense of fear among journalists when it comes to >criticising< people/companies; they fear backlash, reputation hit | Aug 13 07:08 | |
| schestowitz | "I get that feeling too." | Aug 13 07:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they should publish using a pseudonym then | Aug 13 07:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703495 | Aug 13 07:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BedrockLinux Is Working To Combine Different Linux Distributions Into One http://fossbytes.com/bedrock-linux-is-working-to-combine-different-linux-distros-in-one-installation/ #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Finally." | Aug 13 07:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | Bedrock Linux Is Working To Combine Different Linux Distributions Into One | Aug 13 07:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7705709 | Aug 13 07:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #assange is a lucky man. He managed to stay healthy (enough) and sane in spite of de facto imprisonment for nearly half a decade, no MDs. | Aug 13 07:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Wouldn’t it be amazing if it turned out he wasn’t there the whole time? I could probably die happy." | Aug 13 07:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he dug up a tunnel ;-) | Aug 13 07:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703318 | Aug 13 07:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Aug 13 07:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Bizarre.' | Aug 13 07:10 |
| schestowitz | That this is news | Aug 13 07:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7705732 | Aug 13 07:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Anatine (Pristine Twitter App) – Mobile web version of Twitter App for Linux Desktop http://www.2daygeek.com/install-anatine-twitter-client-on-ubuntu-debian-centos-mint-fedora-opensuse-mageia-manjaro-archlinux/ #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Very nice one!" | Aug 13 07:10 |
| schestowitz | "So true. The OOP part is great!" | Aug 13 07:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.2daygeek.com | Anatine (Pristine Twitter App) - Mobile web version of Twitter App for Linux Desktop | 2daygeek | Aug 13 07:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709959 | Aug 13 07:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition: Is This #Linux Laptop Worth $1,500? http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/dell-xps-13-developer-hands-on downsides also in: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Aug 13 07:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Have bought a couple of these over the last few years. Pricier, but want to support a major vendor selling Linux on hardware I like." | Aug 13 07:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.laptopmag.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition: Is This Linux Laptop Worth $1,500? [ http://ur1.ca/pl74u ] | Aug 13 07:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Aug 13 07:11 | |
| schestowitz | Dell is also close to Microsoft, notably | Aug 13 07:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703152 | Aug 13 07:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debunking the media’s smear campaign against Green presidential candidate #JillStein https://www.rt.com/usa/355444-debunking-jill-stein-smears/ #greensUSA | Aug 13 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh gee thanks RT." | Aug 13 07:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.rt.com | Debunking the media’s smear campaign against Green presidential candidate Jill Stein — RT America [ http://ur1.ca/pl74z ] | Aug 13 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | what helps gary helps Jill and vice versa | Aug 13 07:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697467 | Aug 13 07:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Computers That Don't Track You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1ZAk02OVo #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | "Apparently it costs a great deal of money to get some privacy ($1500-2000 for a laptop…?), but would probably come closer to a more attractive cost given an order of two larger batches." | Aug 13 07:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Computers That Don't Track You - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pl750 ] | Aug 13 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | I don't know to what degree this one even protects privacy | Aug 13 07:12 |
| schestowitz | They offer to send me a test unit for reviewing, but never got around to sending it. IOW, false promises. | Aug 13 07:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703215 | Aug 13 07:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Canonical Patches Multiple Kernel Vulnerabilities in All Supported #Ubuntu OSes http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-patches-multiple-kernel-vulnerabilities-in-all-supported-ubuntu-oses-507184.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | "we are still waiting on debian | Aug 13 07:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Canonical Patches Multiple Kernel Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes [ http://ur1.ca/pl754 ] | Aug 13 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706039 | Aug 13 07:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Call Public #Blockchain Developers What They Are: Open Source Coders Not Fiduciaries https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/call-public-blockchain-developers-what-they-are-open-source-coders-not-fiduciaries/ #bitcoin #freesw | Aug 13 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Fiduciary… lol" | Aug 13 07:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.cryptocoinsnews.com | Call Public Blockchain Developers What They Are: Open Source Coders Not Fiduciaries - CCN: Financial Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency News [ http://ur1.ca/pl755 ] | Aug 13 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706292 | Aug 13 07:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Farmer Forced By USDA Board To Dump Cherry Crop On Ground http://www.offthegridnews.com/current-events/farmer-forced-by-usda-board-to-dump-cherry-crop-on-ground/ #cherries #usda | Aug 13 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | "FUCK POOR PEOPLE!' | Aug 13 07:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.offthegridnews.com | Farmer Forced By USDA Board To Dump Cherry Crop On Ground | Off The Grid News [ http://ur1.ca/pl75a ] | Aug 13 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | Build a wall to stop poor people.... and make them pay for it! | Aug 13 07:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703272 | Aug 13 07:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #duterte is such an incompetent President that he threatens media with innuendo, media needs to beep his obscenities, he mocks homosexuals | Aug 13 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | "could be he is insecure about his own sexuality | Aug 13 07:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 07:14 |
| schestowitz | You never know... | Aug 13 07:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700087 | Aug 13 07:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't use #Intel #Skylake for development, it has back doors http://hackerboards.com/embedded-oriented-mini-itx-board-packs-serious-skylake-s-heat/ avoid #x86 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | "I see. That’s bad sh*t - https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/intel-me-and-why-we-should-get-rid-of-me | Aug 13 07:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Embedded oriented Mini-ITX board packs serious Skylake-S heat [ http://ur1.ca/pkslr ] | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/4qw0f ] | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | Intel never responded AFAIK | Aug 13 07:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.fsf.org | Intel & ME, and why we should get rid of ME — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/pl75i ] | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703510 | Aug 13 07:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #DOJ Finally Going To Force Law Enforcement Agencies To Hand Over Info On People Killed By #Police Officers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160810/06230935205/doj-finally-going-to-force-law-enforcement-agencies-to-hand-over-info-people-killed-police-officers.shtml | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | "All dat reform." | Aug 13 07:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | DOJ Finally Going To Force Law Enforcement Agencies To Hand Over Info On People Killed By Police Officers | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pl75j ] | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | Re 'form' | Aug 13 07:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709580 | Aug 13 07:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did Companies & Countries Buy State Dept. Access by Donating to #Clinton Foundation? http://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/12/did_companies_countries_buy_state_dept #bribe funnels like speeches | Aug 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 07:15 |
| schestowitz | WHAT?! That would be a conflict of interests! | Aug 13 07:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.democracynow.org | Did Companies & Countries Buy State Dept. Access by Donating to Clinton Foundation? | Democracy Now! [ http://ur1.ca/pl75l ] | Aug 13 07:16 | |
| schestowitz | #JustStartedPayingAttention | Aug 13 07:16 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 07:16 |
| schestowitz | There's more where they came from ;-) | Aug 13 07:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706262 | Aug 13 07:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Naked Cynicism—Can I Be Bribed to Vote for a Phony, Hedge-Fund Loving Warmonger? http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/10/naked-cynicism-can-i-be-bribed-to-vote-for-a-phony-hedge-fund-warmonger/ #clinton #wallstreet | Aug 13 07:17 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.counterpunch.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/10/naked-cynicism-can-i-be-bribed-to-vote-for-a-phony-hedge-fund-warmonger/ ) | Aug 13 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | "so Levine is right. we were robbed of a decent candidate. let’s let the fucking neofascists win. see the end of the USA as we know and have known it. probably make nazigermany look like a quaint bit of history. wonderful, Levine will have lots to write about, as long as the fickle Trump stays as he say he is, pro-Israeli and pro-Russian. these things have a tendency to backfire, historically, so good luck with that. #ImAgainstTheSociopath" | Aug 13 07:17 |
| schestowitz | There's still enough time to prop up the Greens (3 months) | Aug 13 07:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706639 | Aug 13 07:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GPL enforcement action in Hellwig v. VMware dismissed, with an appeal expected https://opensource.com/law/16/8/gpl-enforcement-action-hellwig-v-vmware #gpl #vmware | Aug 13 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s depressing. It’s so obviously a violation of the GPL. They combined Linux code with their own vmkernel and when they were caught red-handed, they just stripped out the Linux code and made a shim to strap the Linux drivers onto their vmkernel. This is why more people need to become FSF and SFC members, to support lawsuits like these." | Aug 13 07:17 |
| schestowitz | exactly. | Aug 13 07:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> opensource.com | GPL enforcement action in Hellwig v. VMware dismissed, with an appeal expected | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/pl75u ] | Aug 13 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7704571 | Aug 13 07:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Chrome's plan to kill Flash kicks into high gear http://www.pcworld.com/article/3106007/software/google-chromes-plan-to-kill-flash-kicks-into-high-gear.html kill trash. #adobe #trash #flash | Aug 13 07:18 | |
| schestowitz | "i don’t use google, chrome and flash - it’s better" | Aug 13 07:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pcworld.com | Google Chrome's plan to kill Flash kicks into high gear | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pkx7u ] | Aug 13 07:18 | |
| schestowitz | That's one possibility | Aug 13 07:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703372 | Aug 13 07:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GhostBSD 10.3 RC1 is ready for testing http://ghostbsd.org/10.3_RC1 #bsd #unix | Aug 13 07:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Ghost looks pretty cool. Necer used BSD before. What package manager does it use?" | Aug 13 07:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ghostbsd.org | GhostBSD 10.3 RC1 is ready for testing | GhostBSD | Aug 13 07:18 | |
| schestowitz | I think same as freebsd | Aug 13 07:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706192 | Aug 13 07:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: George Carlin’s Daughter Calls for a Second Look at ‘Political Correctness’ http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/comedian_george_carlins_call_for_a_revision_20160810 #carlin #freespeech | Aug 13 07:18 | |
| schestowitz | "you missed to mention Rain Pryor, & Kitty Bruce daughters of Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce' | Aug 13 07:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.truthdig.com | George Carlin’s Daughter Calls for a Second Look at ‘Political Correctness’ - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/pl764 ] | Aug 13 07:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706742 | Aug 13 07:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today I received a letter from Town Hall saying I must confirm who's eligible to vote in the house; I'd face a $1290 fine for not responding | Aug 13 07:19 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s insane." | Aug 13 07:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they'd fine, it's just scare tactics for the lazy | Aug 13 07:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688078 | Aug 13 07:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Study: people will risk getting shot to replace everyday safety with #privacy https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/people-risk-shot-replace-safety-privacy/ #surveillance | Aug 13 07:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I did not know that. Where do I read about that? What do I search for?" | Aug 13 07:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.privateinternetaccess.com | Study: people will risk getting shot to replace everyday safety with privacy | Privacy Online News [ http://ur1.ca/pk2kh ] | Aug 13 07:20 | |
| schestowitz | You can test it with a moderm 'smart' phone for yourself, download a sound recorder on speaker mode | Aug 13 07:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7710568 | Aug 13 07:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Shooting the messenger: call #wikileaks "conspiracy theory" (for showing original evidence) http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.736665 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/08/12/trump-allies-wikileaks-and-russia-are-pushing-a-nonsensical-conspiracy-theory-about-the-dnc-hacks/ | Aug 13 07:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Wow, those are some scary crazy articles.' | Aug 13 07:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.haaretz.com | Family of Slain Jewish DNC Staffer Calls for End to Conspiracy Theories - U.S. Election 2016 - Haaretz - Israel News Haaretz.com [ http://ur1.ca/pl71j ] | Aug 13 07:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.washingtonpost.com | Trump allies, WikiLeaks and Russia are pushing a nonsensical conspiracy theory about the DNC hacks - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/pl71k ] | Aug 13 07:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/764248787976085504 | Aug 13 07:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wikileaks: Another Pulitzer moment from TIME: 'WikiLeaks Is Getting Scarier Than the NSA' https://t.co/5G5MYxM0RB pior epic: https://t.co/gZd7YTopMd | Aug 13 07:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> archive.is | WikiLeaks Is Getting Scarier Than the NSA | TIME | Aug 13 07:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wikileaks: America's journalistic class showing class on assassination. Grunwald, an Obama hagiographer, is now at Politico. https://t.co/M3kplF9NuF | Aug 13 07:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Seth Rich's new "family spokesman" is Brad Bauman a professional Democrat crisis PR consultant with the Pastorum Group." https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/763852003093217280 | Aug 13 07:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wikileaks: Seth Rich's new "family spokesman" is Brad Bauman a professional Democrat crisis PR consultant with the Pastorum Group. | Aug 13 07:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709386 | Aug 13 07:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Right now my feeds (after deleting 'corrupted' sites like #mediamatters #antiwar #thinkprogress #motherjones and few others) are rather slim | Aug 13 07:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Do you mean corrupted by some kind of malware or virus, or do you mean politically corrupted?" | Aug 13 07:22 |
| schestowitz | No, money or influence from Establishment party | Aug 13 07:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699985 | Aug 13 07:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Version of #GParted http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/new-version-gparted #gnu #linux #partitioning #freesw #livecd | Aug 13 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | "True. Also, gnu shred is a useful tool for wiping storage mediums." | Aug 13 07:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxjournal.com | New Version of GParted | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/pl76s ] | Aug 13 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703125 | Aug 13 07:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Woman accidentally killed during ‘shoot, don’t shoot’ training exercise at police department https://postnewsd2.blogspot.com/2016/08/woman-accidentally-killed-during-shoot.html epic #police #fail | Aug 13 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | "“Public servants”" | Aug 13 07:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> postnewsd2.blogspot.com | Post News: Woman accidentally killed during ‘shoot, don’t shoot’ training exercise at police department [ http://ur1.ca/pl76u ] | Aug 13 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | Haha, I love the irony of that term | Aug 13 07:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699674 | Aug 13 07:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/WikiLeaks-Offers-20K-Reward-for-Information-in-Murder-of-DNC-Staffer-Seth-Rich-389622801.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand #dncleaks #dncleak | Aug 13 07:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.nbcwashington.com | WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer | NBC4 Washington [ http://ur1.ca/pksmg ] | Aug 13 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Heard you like HTML." | Aug 13 07:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7703998 | Aug 13 07:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We need neither ISPs (large or small) nor municipal broadband if we can sort out a wireless mesh that reaches datacentres. #sharing #privacy | Aug 13 07:24 | |
| schestowitz | "Hi Roy, have you opened up your wireless as suggested by https://openwireless.org/ and supported by the #EFF and #OpenRightsGroup?" | Aug 13 07:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-openwireless.org | Open Wireless Movement | Aug 13 07:24 | |
| schestowitz | I opened up my wireless a long time ago | Aug 13 07:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699997 | Aug 13 07:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #VineLinux 6.5 Enters Beta, Adopts Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, Glibc 2.23 & GCC 4.9.3 http://news.softpedia.com/news/vine-linux-6-5-enters-beta-adopts-linux-kernel-4-4-lts-glibc-2-23-gcc-4-9-3-507124.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 13 07:24 | |
| schestowitz | "True. I like that type of artwork." | Aug 13 07:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Vine Linux 6.5 Enters Beta, Adopts Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, Glibc 2.23 & GCC 4.9.3 [ http://ur1.ca/pksmj ] | Aug 13 07:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7705582 | Aug 13 07:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump Revealed As Racist Bastard And Nut-case http://mrpogson.com/2016/08/11/trump-revealed-as-racist-bastard-and-nut-case/ on #nafta and #donaldRump which uses NAFTA! | Aug 13 07:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mrpogson.com | Trump Revealed As Racist Bastard And Nut-case | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/pl776 ] | Aug 13 07:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh yeah sure NAFTA turned out being really good for Mexicans >.>" | Aug 13 07:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/764521568840126465 | Aug 13 19:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz Is that a savings account of some sort? Bank or government? Dumb American here is all. | Aug 13 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | Private bank, street | Aug 13 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/764523796342640640 | Aug 13 19:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz Thanks, boss. | Aug 13 19:09 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FCBGoalDigger/status/764526315642851328 | Aug 13 19:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FCBGoalDigger: Wonder why so many United fans hate Guardiola.... Oh wait. https://t.co/SSRoBP5u5H | Aug 13 19:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FCBGoalDigger: Wonder why so many United fans hate Guardiola.... Oh wait. https://t.co/SSRoBP5u5H | Aug 13 19:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4x721r/microsoft_says_it_loves_linux_but_its_antilinux/ | Aug 13 21:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Says It Loves Linux, But Its Anti-Linux Patent Trolls Are Still Around and Active : linux | Aug 13 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | And then there's stuff like this: | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | http://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/ | Aug 13 21:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-betanews.com | Warning: Windows 10 Anniversary Update might delete your Linux partitions | Aug 13 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "Yes yet another ''accidental bug'', just like the ones who reenabled ads in the start menu and reset peoples privacy settings.' | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "M$ has been nuking dual-boot systems for 20+ years now. Their arrogance in assuming you must only run Windows is one of the things that made me dump them in the first place." | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Under the MBR-based boot system, there was no alternative to "nuking" an unrecognised boot sector. The Windows installer cannot possibly recognise every possible "alternative" boot sector and even if it could, there's no way for it to do anything useful with it. Linux installers generally detect standard Windows installations, but there are vastly fewer possible variations of those and if you have something other than the standard Windows | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | boot sector your options are "leave it there and make the user configure it manually" and "overwrite it". Windows is designed for a less technical audience so uses the only sensible default (overwrite; the user may well be running the Windows installer to repair it in the first place). | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Having said that, when I upgraded my GRUB-equipped Windows 7 system to Windows 10, it did not overwrite the boot sector by default, even the "startup repair" option didn't do it... | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Under UEFI, the situation is better. Different bootloaders can coexist and most firmware can be configured to allow the user to choose between them on boot. Even firmware that lacks this feature can have a third-party menu installed, although this may cause problems with secure boot. Still, it's still sensible for an incoming OS to set itself up to boot by default, since there's no way for it to know which other OSs are still present and | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | working. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | It appears that this is actually talking about deleting partitions full of user data NOT overwriting the mbr. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Nuking the Linux bootloader in mbr when installing Windows to the same drive is a time honored tradition and is hardly worth noticing. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | The solution has always been install windows first or fix grub from a live environment. In any case no damage is done just annoyance. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | If anyone at Microsoft cared off course leave the mbr alone could have been an option presented in case an unknown partition / known linux partition type exists. Saying this is unavoidable isn't correct. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Actually destroying a user's install and data is another thing entirely. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | It's unclear if this is so. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "If Microsoft cared they'd leave UEFI alone." | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Totally agree. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | One problem I have seen is that many people who dual boot Windows with Linux tend to think they are more tech savvy than they really are. If you only take your time and maybe do a little research before you throw in an install CD, you can easily avoid blasting away your boot sector. Even if you do muck it up, you can just throw in a Linux repair/install disk to fix it in a matter of seconds, no biggie. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | That said, I hardly ever dual boot my own machines. I usually set up my wife's as a dual boot system and help my CS classmates fix theirs because they apparently have never used a computer for anything other than coding in Sublime. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | I started using a foolproof method for this years ago. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | I put in another HD to dual boot, and when I want to switch, I move the cable. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Problem solved. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, I've been using that solution on desktops for ages. Even when you just want to dual-boot different versions of Windows, it's good not to have another installation's drive connected during install since Windows makes an attempt (which I've never seen it get right) at making the driver letters consistent across installations and while it might be rarer now, there have always been applications that assume Windows is on "C:" without | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | checking...' | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "I've had XP on E: for a long time a few years back and I didn't notice a whole lot of issues" | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "It's a trick I learned back in the 90s when I used to dual-boot with NT 4.0 and 98. There were definitely badly written applications/installers around back then. It was always amusing when you found a "C:\WINDOWS" folder had been created by something on an NT-only box (NT used to install in "C:\WINNT" by default). Even if every program that ever made those sorts of bad assumptions has now been fixed (which I doubt...), it still feels "safer" | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | just to have Windows on the "C:" drive." | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "Apparently starting with Windows 10, it would recognize the two most commonly used MBR boot codes in Linux. (GRUB2 and Syslinux, as I recall, it still overwrites GRUB1 and LILO's different MBRs.)" | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | there's no way for it to do anything useful with it | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | just like there's no way for Linux installer to "do anything useful" when it sees a windows partition. oh wait... | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix | Aug 13 21:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Unix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Aug 13 21:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | the difference here is windows is windows. Debian linux, Arch linux, Enterprise linux, BSD, the list goes on, the family tree for 'nix is ... large that's a lot of extra stuff to add in for a relatively small user base. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | That said, it would have been nice to see a 'nix friendly windows installer earlier than win 10. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "I tried to install kali dual boot with windows 7 about a year or two ago and I got screwed, had to get help with a friend that knows linux to help me. He decided to give me win10 with a vm on a new hard drive that's how bad it was. Happily using Centos7 ever since. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Funny, when I switched to UEFI dual boot windows updates sometimes just overwrote the linux EFI code... And that's not on full OS install, that's on random updates with no warning. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Fuck microsoft. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "Seriously. Windows 10 has been the worst thing to happen for computing in recent years. As soon as i'm able to find my discs to re-install adobe CS4, i'm re-installing Windows 7." | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | There's no bonus to Microsoft from nuking multi-OS machines, that's hugely likely to be accidental because it doesn't really accomplish anything for them, it just pisses customers off and might even open them to lawsuit for no real gain. | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Incidentally, as someone who has had to support end users, it's worth pointing out that this is just something people online have reported happening. As far as I know no reputable source has managed to replicate it and, frankly, I've had users that will swear up and down that they haven't done something I know full well they've done because I watched them do it. | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | There's no bonus to Microsoft from nuking multi-OS machines | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | It reinforces the narrative that Linux is a pain in the ass. | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "I agree. It's not about whose fault it is, it's about it being easier to use windows. Whose fault is it that adobe products don't work on linux? Does linux prevent adobe from writting comatible software? Yet it's "linux doesn't work with the software I want"." | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "which person that knows enough about computers to attempt dual boot would think this is a case of "linux is a problem"? Don't you think the average dual booter is intelligent enough to see the correlation between "windows installation" and "deleted my linux partition"?" | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "I don't think the idea is to convince the Linux users that Linux is the source of the difficulty -- it is just to push them to say "fuck it" and just use Windows full time to avoid the friction." | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "Yes. I did it in the past.' | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "Not really, it makes Windows responsible for destroying data which makes it yet another thing to add to the Win 8+ hate stack. Microsoft's last three operating systems are maligned enough (for a mixture of stupid and perfectly valid reasons) without them making it deliberately destructive.' | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | it makes Windows responsible for destroying data which makes it yet another thing to add to the Win 8+ hate stack. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | For people like us who know what they're doing maybe. For someone who is just starting out, you're wrong. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | accidental | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Well I guess they're just shitty programmers then. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "If I'm honest I suspect the most likely explanation is that the end users fucked up, as is the case with the vast overwhelming majority of home computer issues. After that I'd suggest Microsoft fucked up, with malice in remote last place." | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | I agree. Doubt it's Microsofts fault. I've installed Windows countless times without wiping the other partitions. Hanlons razor. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if those users are even using the advanced disk options in the installer to create their new Windows partitions, or just clicking through with default options. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | There's no advanced options in the W10 AU. It just kinda says "Fuck you" and reboots and does what it wants. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | EDIT: AU means anniversary update, I'm not talking about installing Windows 10, I'm talking about the forced update that has nuked partitions. It doesn't have any setup or advanced options. It forces a reboot, and then installs itself. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "There absolutely is advanced options in W10. I've installed W10 hundreds of times and resized dozens of partitions with dual booting. You can 100% edit your partitions and do advanced options in the W10 setup." | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "You missed the part that said AU, as in, anniversary update, not the actual install. The update forces a reboot and doesn't allow any configuration. It nuked my Fedora24 install, and others have apparently experienced the same thing.' | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "AU is an update. I just installed it with a Mint install on one computer and an Ubuntu install on another. It didn't do anything to them. Also, what update nukes partitions? Or does anything with partitions?" | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it always nuked partitions, I said that it can. | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Also, what update nukes partitions? Or does anything with partitions? | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | The AU. There have been several reports of it nuking Win-Win and Win-Lin dualboots, but it seems pretty rare. | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "If its rare, then why is this even a thing here? It seems like people had their partitions set up incorrectly. Which means it's user error." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I very much disagree, my partitions were set up properly. | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a thing because it nuked partitions when it would have been extremely easy to allow users to just configure the update instead of just saying "Fuck it". | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "If it's rare, and it is, then why the implication at all here that it is some kind of nefarious act by Microsoft? If it was nefarious, it would clearly always happen. But since it isn't, this is all just a bunch of nonsense." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "I don't recall the exact source, but I think a ubuntu developer confrimed it." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Well, Ubuntu-like installers had the possibility of breaking your other partitions if you wanted to reinstall your existing Ubuntu partition from a disc. Choosing the option to reinstall it would select the whole disk for it to use. Is that an accidental bug or something more darker like your quotation marks may mean? Hmmm" | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Reinstall usually means overwrite. Sure, someone could've "forgotten" dual-boot users here, but at least it asked and you were aware that some data was deleted. If you'd simply apt-get update and your windows partition would be gone, we'd be on the same level." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Hard to believe this would be intentional though. Is the reasoning "Maybe if we delete somebody's Linux partition, they just won't ever use Linux again!" Makes no sense. Much more likely that it was unintentional and the result of improper testing on devices with multiple partitions." | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Try installing pretty much any of the 'one of us' systems that uses GRUB2 and watch it automatically rape your MBR just as much. The only difference is that it makes some-what of an attempt to guess what other partitions are OS-es, but obviously it can't detect encrypted partitions. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | If you have a dual boot between Slackware and CRUX and you use syslinux as your boothloader and both are encrypted and you decided to install Mint on a free third partition it will replace syslinux with GRUB2 and override all your boot settings with no warning that it will do so in the installer. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Of course when 'one of us' does it, then people defend it and come with all sorts of excuses how there's another configuration file in /etc that gives you limited control and how you can disable it via hacks. If MS would be doing exactly the same thing people would be screaming high and low how ridiculous it was and not make excuses but the 'one of us' disease is super strong here and people are quick to pardon and make excuses when they | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | recognize something as 'one of us' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | The 'linux community' does not care about actions, it cares about actors. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Edit: So I looked into the scripts, here is the exact technical set of facts and conditions that have to be satisfied to the best of my knowledge reading the scripts: | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Linux Mint (and probably Ubuntu but I couldn't check) without warning in its installer destroys your existing MBR when you attempt to install it on a partition and makes its own booting logic, it tries to detect other operating systems and put them into the menuentries, but again, it obviously cannot detect everything like encrypted partitions. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | On a kernel update, if the executable update-grub is in the path and the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists it will run update-grub, again without warning or asking for confirmation, this executable will again overwrite /boot/grub/grub.cfg based on settings in /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub but is less flexible than manually writing a /boot/grub/grub.cfg, it will however place a notice over the file saying 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE', on a | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | kernel update it will not attempt to mess with your MBR itself, it just assumes the GRUB2 stage1 is there, if it is not there then well, no real harm done. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | How can this bite you? either if you do not use GRUB2 as your bootloader and have other systems, it will replace your loader with GRUB2 during Mint's install. If you do have GRUB2 however and plan to share a boot partition between different systems which is quite common then it will mercilessly butcher your global /boot/grub/grub.cfg with no warning and potentially downgrade your GRUB2 MBR or upgrade it with no warning again. If you do a | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | kernel update on Mint with a shared system boot partition that uses GRUB2 it will again override your configuration without any warning or confirmation. There is nothing wrong with it hypothetically doing this after a warning and asking for confirmation, the problem is, it doesn't ask for any of that for some reason. Some people raise the argument that the file says 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE', but it only says that if it actually came from Mint' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | s autogeneration, if you originally came from another system that does not automatically take control of this file and decide to have a shared boot partition, the file never said that and all your boot logic now belong to Mint. Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora do very similar things. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | This is just a BIOS MBR issue, UEFI/GPT solved this. Newer grub runs fine alongside the windows bootloader. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | As well, wiping partitions and overwriting an MBR are not even comparable. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | They know how BIOS MBR works, they should ask and give you the option 'Do you want to have us install our bootloader, warning: doing so will destroy any boot settings you currently have in place, if you will not have us install our bootloader you must manually add LinuxMint to whatever other booting mechanism you use yourself to use it.', very simple in the end. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | But they just go ahead in the install, no warning, whatsoever. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | And deleting the partition was a bug. Bumblebee as a bug has removed /usr in the past, Steam has as per a bug once attempted to remove every file the user owns. This is embarassing and infuriating, but ultimately just a bug. With Mint, this is a feature. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "Sure. I agree this is a Mint issue, just not a GRUB/Linux issue. I think I may have misread your comment as condemning the entire grub install process, my bad." | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "You know that you can tell the installer if you want/where to install the MBR?" | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4x721r/microsoft_says_it_loves_linux_but_its_antilinux/d6dbwqy | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | 'Just tried on Ubuntu and it does not ask when it is time to install grub. It just does it. Anyway, like I said in this comment, you just have to install it in the installation partition and it is as if you didn't install it." | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/mintinstall8-600x462.png | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Not as far as I know, you can say which device you want the MBR to be altered of but if you only have one drive you have to select that one. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | We're talking about this interface right? | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | We're talking about this interface right? | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Not as far as I know, you can say which device you want the MBR to be altered of but if you only have one drive you have to select that one. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | You're right that you have to select a device, but in that case, you just have to select the partition of your installation. https://i.imgur.com/C343V0D.png It's as if you did not install the MBR. I was doing that when I didn't wanted to boot Windows using Grub. I was adding an entry to the Windows boot loader by pointing it to my Linux partition. | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Ah, okay, I didn't know it did that when you did it like that, I guess there's a hack to avoid it from doing that. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Still though, you have to admit, that is not exactly clear and relies on 'just knowing the trick' | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah but the difference is Microsoft have a history of dirty moves. It's 100% their own fault that nobody trusts them now." | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | "So have Canonical and Red Hat. The difference is that they are 'one of us' so their respective trademark law scare tactics and anticompetitive dependency shit gets easily forgiven or even defended." | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | if you're dual booting slack & CRUX why do you want mint? | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | clearly your config and expectations are higher than the target user mint & *buntus are meant for. | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | Why not? Mint is in my opinion one of the better Debian-based systems. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Still doesn't mean it shouldn't come with a warning. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Mint isn't Cinnamon you know. It's a very solid system due to its Debian toolset which is typically very well done and configurable. They also tend to keep politics out of it and just focus on providing a good system which is what I like. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The 'security'concerns are nonsense, it relies on using their 'update manager', I used Mint for 3 years not even knowing that thing existed. I just used apt-get like everyone else. | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | "don't get me wrong, I like mint too (for a debian derivative) but if you're going to be an edge case then you need to realize the potential for unanticipated issues and maybe even use a spare system or even a virtual machine to evaluate compatibility and how well they all play nice together.' | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | You're an edge case in general if you have any 'Linux partition' on your computer so I don't see how that argument holds in the context of this discussion. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I really wish people didn't design their software around the principle of 'Not enough people would ever do this', especially when the designers run a fairly obscure kernel for desktop operating systems to begin with. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | especially when the statement can be phrased as 'We expect our users to not be technically literate and assume no one would ever do something requiring a modicum of technical competence'. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | um ... the whole point of Mint, *buntu & all the other "beginner distros" is to easily get Linux onto PCs for people who have never used Linux before. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | For a savvy slack & CRUX user I would have thought you understood this. | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | That's also the point of Windows, so why don't they get this excuse when they overwrite your MBR on installs? | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The answer again seems to very much be found in 'one of us' or not. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Saying 'But we are for beginners, therefore we have an excuse to rape your system without warning' is really a poor excuse in my opinion. | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | I don't make excuses for windows, and generally it's already installed. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | It's also pretty well known that reinstalling windows generally wipes grub. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Have you filed upstream requests with grub maintainers? | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | No, you misunderstand, my point is that people make excuses for Mint but lambast Windows here for doing a similar thing because Windows is not 'one of us' | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | And this has nothing to do with GRUB2, GRUB2 does what you tell it to, if you tell it to replace your existing MBR with itself it will do so, if you don't tell it to do that it will not. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The problem is that Mint as part of its installer tells grub to do that with no real warning to the user, someone informed me of a trick though which can be used to stop it from replacing your MBR which isn't really documented in the installer where you in the installer mark the MBR to be installed on something like a swap partition in which case it'll just silently fail. | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | The problem is that Mint as part of its installer tells grub to do that with no real warning to the user, someone informed me of a trick though which can be used to stop it from replacing your MBR which isn't really documented in the installer where you in the installer mark the MBR to be installed on something like a swap partition in which case it'll just silently fail. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Have you informed Clem then? | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | I use whatever distro has the best maintained package for what I'm trying to do on that machine. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | If gentoo has the best packages in the repo and works on the hardware, I use gentoo, if it's arch I use arch. I'll install centos, Ubuntu, debian, mint, I don't care. I don't care which I use. That's probably the point most people reach eventually. | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | this makes my eyes bleed, so kudos on name dropping various distros. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | now to this..... | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I use whatever distro has the best maintained package for what I'm trying to do on that machine. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | do you even linux brah? all of those distros should work with pretty much any hardware, so whatever point you're trying to make about package management is not coming through because they are all "maintained" | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | However, when it comes to a specific package, gentoo & arch are going to have the most current, or "bleeding edge" version while Ubuntu & Mint are going to be not-as-bleeding-edge-but-probably-more-recent than what you'd find in Centos or Debian. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | generally folks pick a distro based on purpose not because of package. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | n.b. - I know I'm using broad strokes here because I could easily use a package from Debian-Testing if I wanted to with my vanilla debian install. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | edit: o | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | How many dedicated function servers you ever needed to build to manage say phone systems etc. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I specifically use the distro with the best maintained packages for the function when I build a linux box that isn't a general use machine, and the distro to me does not matter. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | If vicidial is going to run the best on opensuse right now, ill use that, we also built gentoo and ubuntu installs of the same software on similar hardware, when the opensuse failed to work right because of a conflict of some sort, it is much easier to install the one that works than spend time trying to figure out what someone else did to fix it when you're in a business environment working on a schedule, not a hobbyist who wants to fanboy | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | about a distro he likes. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | A lot of times we NEVER ran an update again because the machine was immediately forked in such a way that it was likely to break things if we updated it, and we secured the systems by putting them inside very locked down networks rather than worrying about the individual machine, we just blacklisted every IP in the world (deny all) and only opened the ones we needed. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Sorry about the blood tears your emotions had to spit up. | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | vicidial | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | now we're getting to the meat and potatoes of the issue, mainly integrating a 3rd party software suite with any given distro - information that your previous post was lacking. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | and you're right, if development cycles don't necessarily overlap, then the potential for breakage is huge and the incentive to not update is certainly there. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Although it does seem to me sorting out why something breaks would be better than just throwing random distros at the issue in hopes of it working. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | edit: spell | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, sometimes that had to be solved, but usually we duplicated equipment we knew worked. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Yeah my personal opinion is based on "I need this thing to work NOW and not work on it to find out why the things don't" and from that perspective, you realise it doesn't matter what the fuck the OS is, etc, you just need the software to run, when you're trying to live integrate websites with vicidial with lead companies and get them all in 1 db, then call them with agents, you could give a fuck what it ran. I was usually integrating sugarcrm | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | or something else with multiple websites with multiple lead companies, parsing/pushing to a db then running it into a queue to be dialed. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I'd run templeOS if it managed those things. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | At some point if you're having to do a lot fast with equipment with limited funds it turns into what can I make work the fastest and cheapest. The best is no longer a concern. My UI looked like shit and people made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling insurance with it. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | TBH to this day I've yet to see a dialer company design a superior single user dialer or even anything comparable that you can rent now. I was managing to make 700-900 dials with 1 person in a 6 hour shift by scaling the line use based on how many dials were attempted and I've never seen anyone else do anything like it. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "That's why I don't dual-boot, I just have a totally separate hard drive dedicated to Linux. It's not that much of a hassle to change the boot sequence in BIOS when I wanna use Linux." | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "Which more likely is a bug as I did the upgrade and both GRUB2 and Ubuntu partitions are working fine.' | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | https://rol.im/securegoldenkeyboot/ | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "maybe their effort to get rid of the vulnerability breaking secureboot.' | Aug 13 21:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-rol.im | Secure Golden Key Boot: (MS16-094 / CVE-2016-3287, and MS16-100 / CVE-2016-3320) | Aug 13 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Why do you need a linux partition when you have Bash on Ubuntu on Windows | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | /s | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "To be fair, it did not ony kill partitions with, but everything shch was just touched by a linux-system. Like my games-partition formated with ntfs. But I see the ecucational advange here, because now I have more time again for my debian-workstation.' | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "I didn't see this. What I saw was a black desktop after I installed the Windows 10 anniversary update. Given that MS took out "f8 for advanced boot options" I didn't feel like fighting with it or trolling the Internet for a fix. That was all the convincing I needed to install Windows 7. Throughout this adventure, no harm came to the Linux partition, but the Grub boot loader did of course get nuked, as usual." | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | What the actual fuck? | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Is this real? They really mean deleting partitions not just GRUB, right? | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | If so, #fuckmicrosoft. | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "Most likely an accidental bug. I just upgrade to last Windows version. Grub is fine, Ubuntu is fine (well, except that I have to reinstall it after messing with ubuntu-mate metapackage)" | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "I just update to machines both with dual boot ( one win10/Ubuntu the other win10/Debian) and grub and both OSes are fine." | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "They love linux the same way intel loves amd. Don't fall for all the shilling people." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Do people even know what "shilling" is anymore? This word is thrown around reddit like "troll" used to be.' | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "About 12 pence?" | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "It used to be 12d, but now it's just 5p." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Chilling..." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "its getting cold in here.." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Shilling" | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "That's government money for you." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Nah, everyone who doesn't agree is a "shill" now. Doesn't even matter if what you say is 100% factual. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | This is what these people sound like to me "You don't like what I like? Yeah you must be a "shill", because I'm the smartest guy in the room.". Chances are they aren't even one of the smartest people in the building, never mind the fucking room. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Chances are they aren't even one of the smartest people in the building, never mind the fucking room. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Something about this line really bothers me, but I'm not smart enough to properly articulate why. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Because its easier to be the smartest the smaller the subset you are compared to? Like, I'm the smartest guy in the room right now because I'm here by myself." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | The "never mind" is referring to something contained within, whereas the expected usage is opposite that | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | One of the ____ people in the $smaller_place never mind the $bigger_place | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | See the inversion? Basically, in set theory, the sets are referred to the wrong way around. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Something about this line really bothers me, but I'm not smart enough to properly articulate why. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Because I completely fucked that line up lol. It made sense when I was writing it, but in retrospect it's logically inconsistent. So I'll try to explain what I was thinking when I wrote it. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "It's easy to be the biggest fish in a pond. Swim out to the ocean and see how big you are when a Great White is staring you in the face." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | Nah, everyone who doesn't agree is a "shill" now. Doesn't even matter if what you say is 100% factual. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | So true. When someone was shitting on green man gaming I asked them to back up their claims and provided evidence they didn't do anything wrong, they seriously accused me of being an employee of theirs even after I assured them, in writing I wasn't LOL. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "He might be one of the smartest people in the neighborhood though." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "I got called a shill for posting a crystal pepsi logo in /r/vaporwaveaesthetics.' | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, that's weird. You're only a shill if you're compensated somehow. Otherwise, just a fan." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "My point was that that specific drink is a vapor wave meme." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | a shill or a concern troll | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | nowadays is so easy to set up an unburstable bubble | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | You said something anti-Trump or pro-Hillary? You must be one of those correct-the-record shills! | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | You're a Hillary supporter, therefore everything you say can be dismissed as bias! | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "Well, it doesn't help that Correct the Record actually does pay shills." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "As apposed to not paying shills?" | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "Well, I guess you could shill for something without being paid. I used to be a big Google fan and would vouch for them online... for free." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | But then you're just a fan, rabid perhaps, biased maybe, but no more. You must be compensated somehow to be a "shill", by definition. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | The word is most definitely being used incorrectly. | Aug 13 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | It's the next level of using your "useful idiots", making them human shields then blaming the other guy. Cant attack the actual shills for the confused idiots in the way. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | They learned from fighting terrorism hiding behind civilians is the easiest way to lay blame on the other guy. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | This is classic "big lie" propaganda that the Nazis wrote so much about. You don't hide, you deny, like a child would. Playing stupid is super effective. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "So what you're saying is, anyone who says something pro-Hillary is either a shill or a "useful idiot" that the shills use as a shield?" | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | The Hillary campaign made that true when they paid millions of dollars for shills. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Personally I would have been pissed and walk away from the whole mess at that point no matter how much I supported her. In fact I did, I no longer support Sanders specifically for endorsing a propagandist. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | I don't play that shit. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "goes to show you how many freaking shills are around here..." | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "Nice hat | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "Techright again? Ehhhh" | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Not to say that the Microsoft patent thing isn't real (it is), but Techrights was posting FUD before. No matter the message or source--kernel of truth or pure fabrication--FUD is bad. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Don't anybody give into or trust FUD--or anybody who tried to FUD you. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | BS FUD from them | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | accusing the messenger | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Here come the Microsofters now | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I hate patent trolls as much as the next guy, they are ruining innovation in America, but IV is a 'Microsoft' company in the same way that Nest is an Apple company. As in, not at all, simply founded by an ex-employee. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | And the 'Microsoft-connected' Rockstar Consortium, that this article calls a patent troll as well, is actually a patent licensing organization with a lot of big company members including Sony, Apple, Ericsson, and Blackberry. I understand Wired magazine, in their infinite wisdom, called them a patent troll, but a lot of those patents are legitimate patents in use by the members. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | This article is clearly biased. Microsoft has in recent years been in the Top 10 Linux kernel contributors. And before you write that off as being in their own interest, how many companies on the top 10 list do you think contribute huge amounts of time and code just for shits and giggles? Everyone does it for their own interests. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I love Linux. Been using it since the late 90's. I'm writing this from Linux. But bitching about Microsoft for years and then when they start to come around, continue going after them, is just dumb. It's almost like the Linux community is more interested in being angry about the things MS does't do than the things it does. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Also, for all of you that said yu would never touch Mono with a 10-ft pole because Microsoft would sue them any day, are you ready yet to admit you were wrong or are you still waiting with your tin-foil hat on? | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft could GPLv3 100% of their code and the vast majority of the FOSS community would still scream about how everyone needs to avoid them.' | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | This article is clearly biased. Microsoft has in recent years been in the Top 10 Linux kernel contributors. And before you write that off as being in their own interest, how many companies on the top 10 list do you think contribute huge amounts of time and code just for shits and giggles? | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was briefly a Top 10 contributor during the time period when they submitted Hyper-V (Microsoft's proprietary hypervisor) drivers for the Linux kernel so that Linux could run in Azure so that Azure could get some customer acceptance among big enterprises who need to run a lot of Linux. | Aug 13 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I am pretty sure there must be a well hidden research lab at Microsoft HQ with a prototype Windows OS using a Linux kernel. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | If someday Windows does what Apple (did yes yes I know it's not Linux) I will not be surprised. And yes Apple also changed from PowerPC to Intel CPUs too a double whammy. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Then again I'm I guess you'd say OS agnostic I use all three some I prefer more for some things over others. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "If you check out the OSX presentation from back in 1999-2000-something, Steve jobs even used the term "Linux-like" as a selling point." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't aware of that, Linux would have been about five or so years old at the time. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Darwin you often read or hear is said to be Unix-like bordering on BSD-like so I guess at that time Linux-like was easier to explain to the average Joe than the even more obscure Unix or BSD. | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Well, at the time Unix was very well known from the server buisness such as Suns-Solaris, but Linux (made and grown to be Unix-like) was growing fast. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | OSX (Now MacOS) is UNIX. OSX came from NeXTSTEP, that originally built on 4.3BSD Tahoe. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "Darwin (OS X) was NeXTStep BSD, but rebased on a more-recent version of FreeBSD.' | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | I am pretty sure there must be a well hidden research lab at Microsoft HQ with a prototype Windows OS using a Linux kernel. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft as an OS designer/distributor started entirely because of Unix. Meet Xenix! | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix | Aug 13 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Xenix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Aug 13 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | MS-DOS is something of a derivative of Xenix, in a strange roundabout way. The MS-DOS subsystem that still hangs around in Windows 10 today is basically a weird chimera of Xenix, OS/2, and Windows 3.1/9X. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | While technically SONIC is a Microsoft-branded and licensed Linux variant, based on Ubuntu, there are definitely some people somewhere on the Redmond campus keeping tabs on a Linux-Windows project. They always have to be ready to make the switch because Linux has taken over just about every market its reached. | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | MS-DOS is something of a derivative of Xenix, in a strange roundabout way. The MS-DOS subsystem that still hangs around in Windows 10 today is basically a weird chimera of Xenix, OS/2, and Windows 3.1/9X. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I suppose pipes and device files are from Unix, not DEC/DCL. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "With Mint, this is just a bug." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "Well, you can't say things like this to their fanatics, they will burn you at the stake." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "It's not just the patents. Aside cloud platform, they don't give a shit about other OS." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry, but with VS Code, MS Office for Android, Skype Alpha for Linux, open sourced .NET framework and cooperation with the Mono project... Saying that they completely don't give a shit about other OSs is just plain wrong." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | ...open sourced .NET framework... | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | And they did not port it to any other platform. Just saying. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | ...and cooperation with the Mono project... | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They did a pretty neat drive-by kill on the Java ecosystem, though. In mid '15 RoboVM stopped being open source (it allows you to run Java apps on iOS). A few months later RoboVM was bought by Xamarin. At the end of '15 Microsoft bought Xamarin and in spring '16 RoboVM was axed (after there was no news about it since being bought by Xamarin). | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Saying that they completely don't give a shit about other OSs is just plain wrong. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Of course they care about other OS'! They want to get them out of the picture as fast as possible...or at least be the one to sell it to us (see Linux on Azure). | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | ""On the bright side, it is your cake day!" | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | techrights | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | really ? this website is an insult to mankind. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_extinguish' | Aug 13 21:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pla3a ] | Aug 13 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | That tactic might work with MS Office for Android, but it fails badly with every other example I posted. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | What are they going to do, develop some super special IDE on top of VS Code? Bullshit. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Skype is (unfortunately) already a standard. Them making it compatible with Linux is just their pure will. Linux users could've used the older version just fine. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They've fucking open sourced .NET framework. How are they going to lock it up? | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Triple E is something that happened twenty years ago. It's not relevant to what Microsoft is doing now in any single way. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | "I'm convinced that most of the people who post that EEE Wiki link don't actually understand what the tactic is and how it would be used." | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Every one of those moves is forced: | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | VS Code and open sourcing dotnet. There's been an exodus of developers off the windows platform. Most backend and web developes now code either on mac or on linux. Which means they do not use MS dev products and platforms. This btw is the reason they added ubuntu terminal to windows. It is to persuade those developers to come back and develop on windows even if they deploy on linux. That's why they try to infiltrate linux ecosystem with | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | their platform (dotnet) and their tools (VS Code). Once they get a sizable ground, they'll start adding features into their products that make it easier to use their platform, their libraries locking unsuspecting developers. It is an old and quite effective tactic they've used in the past many times. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Skype. Skype was working on linux BEFORE thy bought it. They did not make it "compatible" with linux. And they update it just enough so it won't die. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | MS Office for android is a fucking CLOUD product. They do not support linux, they expand their market for ther cloud product. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Porting Sql server to linux is a forced move, because Enterprise customers do not trust windows platform with their data (too insecure, too damaged reputation) Which leaves Oracle as the only game in town (not counting open source dbs). Since none of them is coming back to windows no matter how hard MS tries, they have no choice but to go where the customers are: to offer them their db on a platform that customers are running. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Make no mistake. Microsoft does not love anything except their own profits. They work with linux as little as it is necessary. And have no plans or intentions on promoting linux AT ALL. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Make no mistake. Microsoft does not love anything except their own profits. They work with linux just as much as it is nesessary. And have no plans or intentions on promoting linux AT ALL. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | You mean like almost all companies on the planet? | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I think many commenters are failing to see a problem with this stance. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | No, the comment is not about the corporation Microsoft. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | The comment is about people who think there's a plan, a goal, an intention from Microsofts side to promote, to push and to collaborate on linux. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I'm merely responding to them that there's no plan, no goal and no intention from Microsofts side to promote, to push and to collaborate on linux. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | And I'm saying that being motivated by profits and caring about Linux only to the extent that it raises their profits does not mean they do not want or intend to push, promote and collaborate on Linux. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | The two are not mutually exclusive. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel is one of the largest contributors to the kernel. Are you saying that they are any different from MS in this regard? They do it out of anything other than a desire to make Intel products more profitable? | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | The two are not mutually exclusive. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | They are. Promoting linux hurts their core business. They flagship OS is a direct competitor both on client and server side. And so is their flagship DB, their flagship development platform, their office platform, even their email platform. They are ALL direct competitors either to linux itself or to major linux software. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel is one of the largest contributors to the kernel. Are you saying that they are any different from MS in this regard? | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Of course they are different. They do not have a competing product. They have no incentive to fight linux. In fact it is beneficial for them to support linux (but only x86 and x_64 branches), because linux is a major serverside platform. And supporting it gives them upper hand against IBM (Power chip) and helps fight ARM chip producers. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel is a natural ally of linux. Microsoft is a natural enemy. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Nothing personal, just good business. | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | And have no plans or intentions on promoting linux AT ALL. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I never claimed that. What I claimed is that a) they're not neglecting other operating systems and b) that they are not doing EEE again. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't care what their reasons are, but claiming that they're doing any of those two things is just blatantly wrong. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | We've gotta give them credit where credit is due, and the fact is that they're contributing to the Linux kernel, developing things on top of the Linux kernel, and embracing parts of "Linux" (more like Linux-based tools) into their own core product, even if it is for their own profit. EEE is not the reason why they're doing this, and that's why I intervened. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | "So, the theory that their strategy is (or will eventually be) "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" is "blatantly wrong" but they are "embracing parts of Linux"..." | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | This just proves that you have no idea what EEE represents or how it operated 20 years ago. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Let me walk you through how it worked 20 years ago: | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Here, they're not making a compatible product, they're porting the product without making any changes to the product. Embrace in the EEE context means developing a competing product. Embrace in what I wrote means porting the product. Not the same thing. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the 'simple' standard. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Here, they're not legally allowed to change a single line in bash without making those changes public. Otherwise, that would be a clear violation of GPL and you can bet your ass that the FSF is going to sue them if they try. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | It's meaningless to talk about this part because they are not allowed to tweak GPL-licensed product without making those changes public. | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | I agree that they're embracing Linux in a different way as they embraced, say, HTML in the 90s. I thought it was obvious that they're not using the exact same techniques as they did ages ago. I brought that up because MS is known for sabotaging upcoming trends from the inside. First they become part of the trend, then they try to steer it in a direction that profits them. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Why do you think they are showing interest in Linux? Because "MS loves Linux"? | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Porting their products to linux in this case falls under "or implementing a public standard." Because basically at this point linux IS a defacto standard server side platform. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Once they have a foothold of users using their products (dotnet, VS Code, Sql Server) on linux. the next step is to start adding features those users want, but only on windows versions of those products thus forcing them to migrate (if they want to use those features). Obviously at this point migrating to alternative product will be cost prohibitive to most corporations. Easier to migrate to the same product but on windows. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "It's a shame you are being downvoted. Sadly /r/linux has a lot of shills lately ever since Windows 10 started being a thing." | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "Skype could stop being a standard real quick if it wasn't cross platform. Especially if they dropped Mac support (not having Linux support seems to be easier to get away with). I know for sure we'd stop using it at my job if it was Windows only. Just look at Facetime. It looks pretty nice, but I've never used it despite using a (dual boot) Mac and iPhone, because it's basically useless without support for non Apple devices." | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "On the bright side, it is your cake day!" | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Microsoft staff there tooo]] | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | techrights | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | really ? this website is an insult to mankind. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "At least it's not Phoronix!" | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: again attacks on Michael as well | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Ofcourse Microsoft isn't going to fully love Linux and have patents. This shit goes on with Apple vs Samsung, Oracle vs Android, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs AMD and so on. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a company out to make money, it's nice they are opening up a little more than a few years ago and contributing more/realising that Linux does infact have a majority market share in the server market and so on but any fool that needs to read an article about Anti-Linux practises by Microsoft are just kidding themselves. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | TL;DR of article: Microsoft does what other companies do, we don't like it but that's just how fucked up the patent industry is unfortunately. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | So what is your point? That we should stop criticizing them because what they do is common? That's not how morals work. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | If they do wrong, they are bad. And it's good to continue to point that out. | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | TechRights have been saying this for some time: | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/category/microsoft/ | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/pla3n ] | Aug 13 21:57 | |
| schestowitz | "Because with all the false-flagging "Microsoft loves linux and open source" shilling and propaganda going on, it is important for people to keep a skeptical mind." | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "Why is it so important for you to point out how crappy Microsoft is?" | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "Something something history something doomed to repeat it something won't get fooled again." | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "muh 1998 halloweenie documents!" | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | People often forget how they operate as a company. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | You should look up "embrace, extend, extinguish". As an unofficial policy employed within the Redmond campus, it's brought much grief to the Linux community in the past as well as several prominent companies whose business is either providing services or selling proprietary, closed-source software. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish | Aug 13 21:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n2o73 ] | Aug 13 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | Some people, myself included, are still wary of things that pop out from the woodwork, like the Edge browser. It's the only one fully compatible with HTML5 in every way, shape, and form thinkable, and supports almost every kind of DRM policy on the web you can ask for. It's also the only browser on Windows that runs Netflix in 1080p, aside from IE11. If Edge ever assumes dominance on the web, its guaranteed Microsoft will try to find ways to | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | break existing standards to benefit themselves once more. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Also, this applies to the Nokia deal in general . And it will apply to Cyanogen OS in time. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | IE11 on Windows 10 identifies itself as "Edge Browser" in the User Agent String. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I believe that, in Windows 10 only, IE11 and Edge use the same rendering engine (which was not backported to Windows 7's version of IE11). | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, the rendering engine is actually a fork now. It's still based on Trident, but more resembles webkit in how sites interface with it. Trident in IE11 lives on, but it won't see any improvements now that Edge is out. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm surprised it identifies itself as Edge though! I wonder what specific things a site loads for Edge and IE11 that it doesn't do for other browsers. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Which, sadly, also means that Microsoft's only means of allowing users to use IE11 for web apps will eventually fall by the wayside as Chrome takes over that spot. IE11 is a wonderful tool for running web apps on Windows 7 and 8.1, but all of its functionality is broken in Windows 10. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "It doesn't. IE 11 on windows 10 still uses trident, while edge uses a trident fork called edgehtml." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | If Edge ever assumes dominance on the web, its guaranteed Microsoft will try to find ways to break existing standards to benefit themselves once more. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | How is this guaranteed? Because they did it in the 90's? People also said they were guaranteed to sue Mono. They never did. | Aug 13 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | DRM for video streaming is my bet. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Of course, services like Netflix can be accessed by a multitude of devices so it's not like people are locked in, but Edge does support more DRM schemes and features than its two biggest rivals; Chrome and Firefox. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Chrome might have significant influence over the web and its standards, but the developers have noted before that they're not interested in adhering to all of Netflix's requirements. Firefox doesn't want to do it because supporting Netflix's DRM would mean that it goes against its "principles" of keeping the web free and open (not that it matters much because money talks louder to them these days). | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Supporting all the DRM policies required for 1080p playback would legitimise Netflix's position on DRM and give other streaming services a reason to jump on the bandwagon for more restrictive DRM schemes. Apple doesn't have these scruples, and so Safari on OS X and MacOS Sierra do this just fine. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Edge is already doing the kinds of things we expected from Microsoft in the early IE days. For one, it's much more frugal when it comes to battery life on the browsers, probably because other browsers can't use the same hooks in the OS like Edge can. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Also, if you're the Chromium or Firefox devs, and are interested in porting those browsers as universal apps for the Windows Store, you have to abandon your engine and use EdgeHTML instead. That's partly how webkit became so popular - it was the only browser rendering engine available on iPhone. All the web apps published to the UWA platform? They run on EdgeHTML. The Netflix app? EdgeHTML powered. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | There's also this: | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | In a blog post, Microsoft claimed Microsoft Edge was built to take advantage of platform features in Windows 10, including the PlayReady Content Protection and the media engine’s Protected Media Path. The company said it is working with the Open Media Alliance to develop next-generation media formats, codecs, and other technologies for UltraHD video, and with chipset companies to develop Enhanced Content Protection that moves the | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | protected media path into peripheral hardware for an even higher level of security, and one that could be used to protect 4K media. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3095259/browsers/confirmed-only-microsoft-edge-will-play-netflix-content-at-1080p-on-your-pc.html | Aug 13 21:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.pcworld.com | Confirmed: Only Microsoft Edge will play Netflix content at 1080p on your PC | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pla3y ] | Aug 13 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | Those peripheral devices mentioned are HCDP 2.2 compliant monitors and audio peripherals, and playing UHD 4K content will soon require everyone to upgrade their displays or televisions and possibly home theatre systems as well. Do you want UHD 4K Stranger Things Season 2? Make sure you only have a single HDCP 2.2 monitor connected to your desktop with a modern GPU in 2017 - having any other one connected will throw up a content protection | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | error. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Not to mention that laptops with 4K displays in the market today are not HCDP 2.2 compatible. Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldi, and all the other browsers out there also can't play back HDCP 2.2 content - only Edge and IE11 can do it at this point. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Netflix and Microsoft will be the drivers of this change on the PC, and neither one has ever been interested in keeping the web, or their streaming services, open and accessible. The Xbox One S also supports it, as will the updated PS4 and NEO. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Also, have a look at this thread. It's been growing for three years now and it shows no signs of stopping: | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | https://www.amazon.com/forum/hdcp/ref=cm_cd_pg_oldest?_encoding=UTF8&authToken=&cdForum=Fx1I1PUNU96BL63&cdPage=1&cdSort=newest&cdThread=Tx129ABVRIIFH0 | Aug 13 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | Note also that lack of Netflix DRM is one of the biggest complaints about Valve's Steamboxes/SteamOS, a competitor to Xbox and Playstation. | Aug 13 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/microsoft-edge-scooby-doo-alright-edge-lets-see-who-you-really-are-internet-explorer.jpg | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "surprise!" | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "This, and the Rick and Morty gif, are making my week (which is otherwise bleak)." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "The only people who are genuinely shocked by anything Microsoft does are people who don't have to deal with other software vendors. Hell compared to some of the vendors in the network infrastructure space Microsoft are hilariously cuddly. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "To make matters worse, some of their rivals in the server and data center markets are just as crazy as them, if not more." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "Case in point, VMware..." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "Those competitors don't have Microsoft's leverage. And Microsoft has been forced to be more cuddly (by releasing many protocol and file-format specifications) in response to EU and American government lawsuits." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "Every year this headline. We know goddamit." | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | "As much as I hate Microsoft, I don't see a single "this happened to me" post here. And this is Reddit. Not believable yet." | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Can someone tell that idiot /u/NickelBack_Lover_69 to stop linking to techrights? Come on, it's full of shit." | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://np.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45p3ml/microsoft_continues_to_use_software_patents_to/czzku4b https://np.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45p3ml/microsoft_continues_to_use_software_patents_to/czzi36l | Aug 13 22:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-np.reddit.com | Lancair comments on Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/pla48 ] | Aug 13 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Here are my favorite comments of his: | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Isn't free software just great? We're talking about state of the art high quality here, programmed by some bored nerds in their mothers' basements. | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4waczj/psa_if_you_are_still_using_libreoffice_3x_do_not/d663bfv | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Except Windows 7 isn't garbage, while linux is. I bet linux doesn't even have the drivers for that laptop. | Aug 13 22:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-np.reddit.com | hitsujiTMO comments on Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/pla49 ] | Aug 13 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/4wtuh9/new_windows_10_laptop_what_to_install_first/d6a6wdn | Aug 13 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | "From what I can tell he is a shitposter/troll (It's pretty obvious with the name)" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "It takes time to completely change the culture of a Monolith like Microsoft. We're trying..." | Aug 13 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | "Try harder | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | '" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | This is one of those things that is technically true, but neglects the bigger picture: | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Microsoft may well love Linux. But they love Linux on their terms, which don't always mesh well with F/OSS purists: | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | A key part of those terms is that Linux must not be a first-class citizen in any area where it might threaten Microsoft's business model. Hence Samba 4, despite over a decade of development and nominally being supported by Microsoft, is a great file server and a lousy domain controller. And I bet you anything you like that despite Microsoft porting SQL Server to Linux, only the core engine ever gets ported, and even then it'll be a second- | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | class citizen compared to SQL Server on Windows. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "They port the SQL server to Linux to attack Oracle, not to support Linux. They do it because customers want to run their DB on Linux, and want an alternative to Oracle. What would Microsoft gain by releasing a sub-par product?" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | And I bet you anything you like that despite Microsoft porting SQL Server to Linux, only the core engine ever gets ported, and even then it'll be a second-class citizen compared to SQL Server on Windows. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | You might be right. They might not port SSRS reporting, forcing users of Microsoft's BI and SQL Server on Linux to also have Windows Servers. | Aug 13 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | That's exactly what I predict. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | In fact, this makes a lot of sense. SSRS usually uses AD for authentication/authorisation. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | MS can't rely on there being a correctly-configured reliable AD stack on a Linux box; they'd either need to reinvent a lot of wheels, forego AD authentication on the Linux version or simply not bother porting it in the first place. | Aug 13 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | I'm sure RedHat would get sssd configured for them. Especially if Microsoft chose to support SQL Server only on RHEL. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise Microsoft could lean on one of the reliable ISVs under its control, like Powerbroker/Likewise or Centrify. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "Better to just invest in PostgreSQL and Pentaho for OLAP, I suspect.' | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "Rule number 1. Never trust corporate companies." | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "Lawyers trying to stay employed" | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "|Are you implying that what a company says in its marketing material could be different from how it actually operates? I don't believe you." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | I suspect with the Microsoft layoffs pending. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | This department must to appear useful. Hail jobs. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Like the priest telling the little boy he loves him. No rational adult believes that." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft and their trashcan products and user experience can go fuck themselves." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. It's how MS has always operated.' | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, extend, extinguish. It's never going to change, regardless of what they tell you." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Love it, by dominate it. I guess Mickeysoft is a dog-person." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | My favourite part is how people continue to act like MS are the only bags who are doing this. Meanwhile Canonical trademark-law-trolls people into being afraid of forking by saying you have to remove every reference to their Ubuntu trademark in the source code if you fork, even in variable names and API strings and symbols, which is of very dubious legality if they can even require it, but in the end, it does its job and scares people away | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | from forking1. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Canonical will also say they 'love Linux'. Do I need to get started on the crap Valve is pulling? | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | MS. Valve, Canonical, Red Hat, Google, it's all the same, they're companies, they need to turn a profit at the end of the day, and part of that is p.r. bullshit. The only difference is that people actually believe Valve, Canonical and Red Hat for some reason when they have a carefully crafted marketing team that makes them out to be 'your friend'. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | 1: This is also a problem with how broken common civil law works in that you quite often don't know if something is illegal until you try it and why I like the theoretical Roman civil law more where everything is legal unless the law explicitly makes it illegal and any ambiguity is interpreted strictly against the drafter which in the case of the actual law is the state. In the US and the UK you have these ridiculous 'test cases' where people | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | purposefully skirt the edge to see if it's illegal, if it turns out to be illegal because a judge in that case decided so, well, then you have to pay the price, which is ridiculous. And Canonical takes full advantage of this broken system to scare people into not forking who don't and can't know their rights until they try to venture into the grey area. And if you lose, well then you lose hard so people are afraid to take the risk even though | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | it might be the case that a judge rules in their favour and Canonical's trademark policies are ruled unenforceable. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "So how does Mint get away with it? When I update, more than half the packages have "ubuntu" in the version number." | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | They ignore it because they know it's just a scare tactic? | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | More info: | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/controversy-behind-canonicals-intellectual-property-policy | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/35969.html | Aug 13 22:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxjournal.com | The Controversy Behind Canonical's Intellectual Property Policy | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/pla4j ] | Aug 13 22:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Canonical's Ubuntu IP policy is garbage | Aug 13 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | It is just a scare tactic just as patent trolling, they know it won't hold any legal water but they try to scare people into not doing stuff, as I said, because if you loose in court the costs are huge. | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/ | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Because the Mint developers don't care about licenses and copyrights. | Aug 13 22:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lwn.net | Linux Mint downloads (briefly) compromised [LWN.net] | Aug 13 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Yes this is very true too. You should visit /r/shills and /r/hailcorporate | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | '"Here we go, the two biggest lunatics on /r/linux meet each other." | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "What the fuck is your problem with me? Stop following me in every post. Do I need to report you to the reddit administrators for harrassment? | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | '"This is my first interaction with you, are you mental?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry, I had you confused with someone else. The linux community is becoming increasingly hostile lately." | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "You do realize you are very hostile as well with your anti-systemd posts and stuff?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Lol have you seen how hostile the systemd developers are?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "How does that justify your behaviour in any way?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Everyone's entitled to their opinion.' | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | And they're also entitled to the blowback they get from expressing their opinion. | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | It's just funny to see OP complain about a hostile community while OP simultaneously calls other people shills for having an opinion that OP disagrees with. | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "personally i'm waiting until systemd.js comes out" | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "not as much as gnome 3 devs :P" | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "Gnome3 is even worse, but at least nobody is really required to use it. Meanwhile systemd is a cancer that is becoming more difficult to avoid as the time passes." | Aug 13 22:04 |
| MinceR | wait, what? skype was a standard? | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft and their trashcan products and user experience can go fuck themselves." | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is the standard | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | the whole thread makes me sick | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | it feels like Reddit has full-time employees in Reddit | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | to manage perception | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | and they already got caught doing this | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | inc. personal attacks | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | so the signal gets drowned out | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. It's how MS has always operated.' | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | everytime i see a """user""" using M$ i cringe so hard i give myself more crows foots around my eyes | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | like just get with the time and use gnu systemd with a FOSS stack | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | See? | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, extend, extinguish. It's never going to change, regardless of what they tell you." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Love it, by dominate it. I guess Mickeysoft is a dog-person." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "The same way GlaDOS "loves" Chell." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft should have all computers come with both OSes then... to give users a real choice" | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Like, maybe, ship a linux kernel as a part of windows? That would be crazy" | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Nah, like dual boot. Who would want to have 2 Os's running at the same time?" | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "yes dual boot to make it easier to remove either one ..." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Say that to the OEMs and pc brands. They are the ones bundling windows." | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "If MS loves Linux so much, they could set it as a requirement to bundle Linux w/ Windows... (if they want to bundle Windows with the new computer)" | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "They only love linux when it benefits them. Like for the use of their azure server systems, or now, windows with linux terminal (i.e to manage their azure servers or to keep offices to stay on windows) They don't give a shit about linux for home users.' | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Definitely. And iPhones should ship with Android. And when you buy a Chevy they should give you a free Ford as well. And when you buy food from a restaurant they should give you free dessert from the restaurant next door. And when you buy a tv they should give you a free tv of the same size from a competitor. And when you see a movie at the theatre they should give you free tickets to a different movie as well. | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | You know, so people have choice. | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "more along the line like when Microsoft was forced to bundle the Netscape browser with every copy of Windows... to give people a choice..." | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "If M$ ever wants to be accepted into the world of open source this needs to end. It's morally wrong ." | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Downvoted to hell, MinceR, cause it used the dollar sign | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | I almost dread seeing my articles in reddit because the comments are lots of pro-Microsoft bullies | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | only in reddit | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | worse than any other site | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | anyway, that's all for no | Aug 13 22:07 |
| MinceR | what site is that? | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | i didn't even know they linked to me with 220+ comments | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | sickening | Aug 13 22:07 |
| MinceR | oh, reddit | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | reddit, yes | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | full of MS staff | Aug 13 22:07 |
| MinceR | so reddit has gone slashdot's and digg's way entirely | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | even in Linux sections | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Digg was never THIS bad | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | it died before it could get this bad | Aug 13 22:08 |
| MinceR | i want to eventually build a platform that can survive this | Aug 13 22:08 |
| MinceR | without having to reinvent and reimplement the whole thing over and over | Aug 13 22:08 |
| MinceR | letting groups of people use the same code without having to interact with each other at all | Aug 13 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I think you can reuse code | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | 'managing' the crowd is the hard part | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | without alienating | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | or without deleting comments (never did that) | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | some people do try to push the limits, e.g. with threats | Aug 13 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JeaHRing/status/764588206855753730 | Aug 13 23:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JeaHRing: @schestowitz Filipino President labels a US Ambassador as gay? What your view https://t.co/yLt8IzSFPD https://t.co/QJD5RRuqaK | Aug 13 23:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gatheronline.com | Gather Online | Aug 13 23:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JeaHRing: @schestowitz Filipino President labels a US Ambassador as gay? What your view https://t.co/yLt8IzSFPD https://t.co/QJD5RRuqaK | Aug 13 23:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/08/12/i-was-there-ap-reporter-debunks-conspiracy-theory-video-shows-clinton-suffering-seizures/212383 | Aug 13 23:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mediamatters.org | “I Was There”: AP Reporter Debunks Conspiracy Theory That Video Shows Clinton Suffering From Seizures | Aug 13 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | Right-wing media personalities including Sean Hannity, Alex Jones, and Matt Drudge, have attempted to change the subject from Donald Trump’s campaign troubles by drumming up a conspiracy that Hillary Clinton is in poor health. Fox host Hannity has led the crusade attacking Clinton, bringing on guests to diagnose Clinton of various diseases using deceptively edited snippets of video and photos of Clinton."" | Aug 13 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > older: | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > https://blog.torproject.org/blog/breaking-through-censorship-barriers-even-when-tor-blocked | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.duffelblog.com/2016/08/debt-free-sergeant-loses-security-clearance/ | Aug 07 13:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.torproject.org | Breaking through censorship barriers, even when Tor is blocked | The Tor Blog [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sr ] | Aug 07 13:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.duffelblog.com | Debt-free, never-divorced staff sergeant loses security clearance [ http://ur1.ca/pk9ss ] | Aug 07 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | > satire -- for now | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fcc-official-most-americans-dont-care-about-prison-phone-exploitation | Aug 07 13:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | Americans Don't Care About Prison Phone Exploitation, Says FCC Official | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9su ] | Aug 07 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > " since November 2015, more than 100 stolen Chrysler SUVs were stolen | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > in this way, and driven across the border." | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/surveillance-video-showing-a-case-of-high-tech-grand-theft-auto | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > can't be fixed. needs TOTAL redesign of ALL systems in the vehicle | Aug 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wwmt.com | Surveillance video showing a case of high-tech grand theft auto | WWMT [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sv ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > "but 99.9 percent of consumers have no idea of their actual rights" | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > ... | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "it might be ripe for a class action" | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-xbox-one-s-still-uses-microsofts-illegal-warranty-void-if-removed-sticker | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "In May of this year, YouTube signed an EU code of conduct against hate | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | The Xbox One S Still Uses Microsoft's Illegal Warranty-Void-if-Removed Sticker | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sw ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > speech" | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/youtubes-trolls-leafyishere-are-crying-censorship-over-cyberbullying-rules | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | YouTube’s Trolls Are Crying Censorship Over Cyberbullying Rules | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sx ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > applied selectively, of course | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "[the posters] said that those women in J&K found riding two wheelers | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > would be burnt." | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.oneindia.com/india/how-mosques-j-k-are-used-spread-hatred-against-india-2174345.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.oneindia.com | How Mosques in J&K are used to spread hatred against India - Oneindia [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sy ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > usually it is just the sermons inside the mosque | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/05/professor-arabs-migrate-women/ | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.breitbart.com | Syrian Prof: Arabs Migrate for 'Sluts' and Welfare, Attack When They Don't Get It [ http://ur1.ca/pk9sz ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > about the same here and in DK unfortunately | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/05/bbc-to-deploy-detection-vans-to-snoop-on-internet-users/ | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | BBC to deploy detection vans to snoop on internet users [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t0 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-announce/2016/000502.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-announce/2016/000502.html ) | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/08/flint_lacks_water_treatment_st.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.mlive.com | Flint official says city lacks direction for water treatment | MLive.com [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t2 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.colorlines.com/articles/pittsburgh-joins-list-us-cities-lead-drinking-water | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.colorlines.com | Pittsburgh Joins the List of US Cities with Lead in Drinking Water | Colorlines [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t3 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2016/08/06/if_you_dont_fee.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | The Internet of Dildos Is Watching You | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t4 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > "Amid all the self-made myths about Donald Trump, none is more | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.advicegoddess.com | Advice Goddess Blog [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t5 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > fantastic than Trump the moneymaker..." | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > ... | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > "This disconnect between the public’s perception of Mr. Trump as a | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > self-made mogul and the reality of his being a rich kid who lost other | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > people’s money and made far less for himself than he claims is still his | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > Achilles’ heel." | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/opinion/sunday/trump-the-bad-bad-businessman.html | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t7 ] | Aug 07 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Aug 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://te-k.github.io/blog/2016/08/01/openssh-backdoor-used-on-compromised-linux-servers/ | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-te-k.github.io | Openssh backdoor used on compromised Linux servers · Tek [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t8 ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > "Kashmir has been claimed in its entirety by both India and Pakistan | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > since both countries achieved independence from Britain in 1947. Three | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > wars have been fought over the disputed territory. India controls about | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > two-thirds of the region and Pakistan about a third; China controls a | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > tiny part." | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/three-killed-indian-kashmir/494750/ | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theatlantic.com | Three more killed in Indian Kashmir clashes - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tb ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > transmigration is a problem there too | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dallasnews.com/investigations/watchdog/20160805-watchdog-dallas-woman-discovers-new-secret-service-sex-scandals-through-public-information-requests.ece | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dallasnews.com | Watchdog: Dallas woman discovers new Secret Service sex scandals through public information requests | Watchdog Column | DFW Investigations | Dave Lieber [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tc ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37000975 | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.bbc.com | Households could get fracking payments under government plans - BBC News | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > bribing to circumvent local councils | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > "Unfortunately, most people’s attention span started and ended with | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > just the clock incident. As if it happened a vacuum." | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > ..."Well, guess who’s been out to get the Mayor ever since?" | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/21/did-america-get-trolled-by-ahmed-and-his-clock/ | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/act-calls-government-support-open-source-software-ck-192644 | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-dailycaller.com | Did America Get Trolled By Ahmed And His Clock? | The Daily Caller [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tf ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > "Maybe after market entropizers aren’t the best solution. " | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/random-failures | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nbr.co.nz | ACT calls on government to support open source software | The National Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tg ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tedunangst.com | random failures [ http://ur1.ca/pk9th ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-chief-calls-national-talk-over-encryption-vs-safety-n624101 | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nbcnews.com | FBI Chief Calls for National Talk Over Encryption vs. Safety - NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tj ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking | Aug 07 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-motherboard.vice.com | The Internet of Dildos Is Watching You | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pk9t4 ] | Aug 07 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | > invasive surveillance :P | Aug 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking | Aug 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz | > invasive surveillance :P | Aug 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz | You posted this link twice even. We found it funny here... | Aug 07 14:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7687307 | Aug 07 14:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@atomjack@diasp.org reshared: #Google slammed for removing #Palestine from its maps https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160804-google-slammed-for-removing-palestine-from-its-maps/ #israel #zionism #censorship #revisionism | Aug 07 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s shitty and I bet they provided the Israeli Occupation Forces with detailed keyhole strike maps on civilian infrastructure." | Aug 07 14:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.middleeastmonitor.com | Google slammed for removing Palestine from its maps – Middle East Monitor | Aug 07 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689012 | Aug 07 14:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@overnetbh@joindiaspora.com reshared: #microsoft loves #linux http://fossbytes.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-deletes-linux-dual-boot-partitions/ very much. | Aug 07 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | "What’s good for the goose? When I tried Ubuntu, it deleted my Windows partition, even though I told it not to. Though, perhaps Windows just deletes the partition table and you just need to reinstall GRUB." | Aug 07 14:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | Linux Users Claim That Windows 10 Anniversary Update Deletes Dual-boot Partitions [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z5 ] | Aug 07 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has enough programmers to know how to handle it better. Sabotage probably, not neglect. | Aug 07 14:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688245 | Aug 07 14:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@johnito@joindiaspora.com reshared: The IMF confesses it immolated Greece on behalf of the Eurogroup https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/yanis-varoufakis/imf-confesses-it-immolated-greece-on-behalf-of-eurogroup #imf #greece #liquidation #austerity | Aug 07 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | "oh really - as if we didn’t know this and are in shock and surprise???' | Aug 07 14:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.opendemocracy.net | The IMF confesses it immolated Greece on behalf of the Eurogroup | openDemocracy [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z8 ] | Aug 07 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | "lol" | Aug 07 14:29 |
| schestowitz | "immolated" | Aug 07 14:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689574 | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Btrfs scrub sometime recalculate wrong parity in raid5 https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org/msg55161.html maybe still premature to use it? | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | ":S - had a similar thouthgt about it lately ^^ since on my laptop i have no space left while having 20 gb space left… and cannot balance since there is no space left ( would have to add a stick or similar to the device and then balance) this kind of thing is not suposed to happen and obviously it happens quiet regular according to the mailing list THESE THIGS SHOULD BE DONE AUTOMATICALLY by the fs itself… we’ll see it will most likely | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mail-archive.com | [BUG] Btrfs scrub sometime recalculate wrong parity in raid5 [ http://ur1.ca/pka0r ] | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | get better… ^^" | Aug 07 14:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7686936 | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BerryLinux 1.23 をリリ http://berry-lab.net/berry.html new #gnu #linux release from #japan - based on #fedora | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | As a very good alternative I would consider Office from SoftMaker : | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> berry-lab.net | Berry Linux - Fast, Simple Linux | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.freeoffice.com/en/ | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.freeoffice.com | www.freeoffice.com - FreeOffice for Windows, Linux and Android | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.softmaker.com/en/softmaker-office | Aug 07 14:42 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.softmaker.com | www.softmaker.com - SoftMaker Office [ http://ur1.ca/pka0x ] | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | Right, but it's proprietary | Aug 07 14:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689111 | Aug 07 14:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best #Microsoft Office Alternatives 2016 http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/best-microsoft-office-alternatives anything that's #frees | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.laptopmag.com | Best Microsoft Office Alternatives 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/pka0y ] | Aug 07 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | "リリってリリースですか。 The Japanese language loves shortening words and phrases. One day I asked a high school students about something, and she referred to her school 鹿本高等学校 as 鹿校. I knew right away what she meant, but it made me smile." | Aug 07 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690278 | Aug 07 14:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A nation's well-being isn't to be judged by how many billionaires it has (at whose expense?) but by how it treats its most vulnerable | Aug 07 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | "So say we all." | Aug 07 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688086 | Aug 07 14:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Government must consider open-source software - ACT http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/5/259426 #freesw in #nz | Aug 07 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | "maybe government consider freesw bit someone buy votes… In Italy there are problems between Microsoft and public announcements" | Aug 07 14:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.voxy.co.nz | Government must consider open-source software - ACT | Voxy.co.nz | Aug 07 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | yes, I've noticed that | Aug 07 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7687070 | Aug 07 14:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GitHub Enterprise 2.7 -- a better way to commit to commits http://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/GitHub-Enterprise-27-a-better-way-to-commit-to-commits #git #freesw | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | "And how is GitHub free software? Can I install GitHub Enterprise on my own server?" | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.computerweekly.com | GitHub Enterprise 2.7 - a better way to commit to commits - Open Source Insider [ http://ur1.ca/pka19 ] | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | I filed this under "Proprietary" in my notes. But the haghtag refers to what's being hosted under GitHub. | Aug 07 14:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690196 | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For Decades, the #USDA Was Black Farmers’ Worst Enemy. Here’s How It Became an Ally http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/the-resurgence-of-black-farmers-20160708?utm_source=YTW&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20160708 now crushes whistleblowers | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | "The USDA actually funds co-ops now." | Aug 07 14:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.yesmagazine.org | For Decades, the USDA Was Black Farmers’ Worst Enemy. Here’s How It Became an Ally by Sylvia A. Harvey — YES! Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/pka1b ] | Aug 07 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | Good, maybe a face-saving strategy | Aug 07 14:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689576 | Aug 07 14:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook not only manipulated or made up what people wrote but also [Zucker]bragged about it https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/02/facebook-sorry-secret-psychological-experiment-users 'experiment' my arse | Aug 07 14:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Facebook sorry – almost – for secret psychological experiment on users | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pk0e3 ] | Aug 07 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Did they admit to forging personal communications? Their TOS demands the right to misrepresent people, but I did not see where they admitted to it to prove emotional control - which is what their BS research proved. | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | This is what the the cia’s “Global Whurlitzer” was about, the ability to control overall mood and motivation in a target population. It is one of the reasons the US is so crazy about copyright. Control of world culture is not just a tax on the world, it is the power to inflict pain and suffering. | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 14:46 |
| schestowitz | https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mighty-Wurlitzer-How-Played-America/dp/067403256X | Aug 07 14:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.amazon.co.uk | The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America: Amazon.co.uk: Hugh Wilford: 9780674032569: Books [ http://ur1.ca/pka1i ] | Aug 07 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688537 | Aug 07 14:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #dell is hiring #freesw people https://domsch.com/blog/?p=686 ready to leave #microsoft behind? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Aug 07 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | "You have to remember Edward Snowden’s skill set and that he also worked for Dell. Microsoft and partners use free software when it suits them." | Aug 07 14:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> domsch.com | Sr. Software Engineer position on my team | domsch.com blog | Aug 07 14:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Aug 07 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly, but he tends not to promote software that's proprietary himself, except maybe that latest iPhone project | Aug 07 14:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690133 | Aug 07 14:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's time to quit pretending that only #clinton (i.e. oligarchs) can defeat the oligarch who is #DonaldRump (unless #election rigged again) | Aug 07 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | "Probably every candidate can beat Trump in a general election but Clinton will be the only one who can beat him, practically speaking. That’s the current US system." | Aug 07 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Easier to sell militarism and Wall Street by saying "otherwise nazism"... | Aug 07 14:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690179 | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's not #democracy when there's a political #oligopoly over two factions of the Business Party (funding both wings) http://commondreams.org/news/2016/08/06/democracy-debatable-judge-rejects-third-party-bid-share-stage | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | "Jill and Gary need to hold their own debates. Fuck Hillary and Trump." | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Democracy Debatable as Judge Rejects Third-Party Bid to Share Stage | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/pka23 ] | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | But they need to be able to confront them face to face rather than confront each other | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689590 | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I, too, noticed some #linux dot com downtime recently https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4w7uh0/linuxcom_down_error_503_all_backends_failed_or/ maybe they should reassess their sysadmins | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.reddit.com' ( status 0 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4w7uh0/linuxcom_down_error_503_all_backends_failed_or/ ) | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | "#vacations much?" | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Good point. | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7683416\ | Aug 07 14:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #israel #likkud witch-hunt against anyone who dares not do as it wishes makes its PM like Donald Rump.No matter how many lies, still popular | Aug 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | "he is refering to your post" | Aug 07 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689050 | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Judge Tosses 200 Hours Of Recordings From FBI's Courthouse Bugs https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/10433035156/judge-tosses-200-hours-recordings-fbis-courthouse-bugs.shtml #fbi #surveillance | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | "WTF happened to consent?" | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Judge Tosses 200 Hours Of Recordings From FBI's Courthouse Bugs | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pkawm ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | The system is being raped by its law enforcers... | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7691646 | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FBI Chief Calls for National Talk Over #Encryption vs. Safety http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-chief-calls-national-talk-over-encryption-vs-safety-n624101 bullshit false dichotomy. Bogus 'debate'. | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://hacked.com/fbi-apple-snowden-iphone-horseshit/ | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://theintercept.com/2016/03/28/fbi-got-into-san-bernardino-killers-iphone-without-apples-help/ | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.nbcnews.com | FBI Chief Calls for National Talk Over Encryption vs. Safety - NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/pk9tj ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160331/17171834072/fbi-wont-tell-apple-how-it-got-into-iphone-is-apparently-eager-to-help-others-break-into-iphones.shtml | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-hacked.com | FBI's Claim That Only Apple Can Unlock the iPhone Is “Horseshit”, Says Edward Snowden | Hacked [ http://ur1.ca/pkawt ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/09/edward-snowden-fbi-san-bernardino-iphone-bullshit-nsa-apple | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | etc. | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-theintercept.com | FBI Got Into San Bernardino Killer’s iPhone Without Apple’s Help [ http://ur1.ca/pkawu ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.techdirt.com | FBI Won't Tell Apple How It Got Into iPhone... But Is Apparently Eager To Help Others Break Into iPhones | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pkawv ] | Aug 07 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Apple is in NSA PRISM | Aug 07 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theguardian.com | Snowden: FBI's claim it can't unlock the San Bernardino iPhone is 'bullshit' | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pkaww ] | Aug 07 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7683556 | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Police Get Facebook To Kill Livestream Of Standoff Which Ended With Suspect Being Shot To Death https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/06490535150/police-get-facebook-to-kill-livestream-standoff-which-ended-with-suspect-being-shot-to-death.shtml #facebook #death | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "It’s hard to tell. Their site talks a lot about an African diaspora and my NSA sources give me no matches for searches like “diaspora social” “diaspora pod” and “diaspora network”. So, I sent them an email asking if they had any Diaspora plans." | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Police Get Facebook To Kill Livestream Of Standoff Which Ended With Suspect Being Shot To Death | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/pk0c2 ] | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | Good move | Aug 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688811 | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People like #billgates and #donaldRump cannot speak about "green". They don't recycle, they have private jets & http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-fined-over-horse-manure-at-florida-home-2014-10?IR=T | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Bill gates is a douche bag." | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businessinsider.com | Bill Gates Fined Over Horse Manure At Florida Home - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/pkax1 ] | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | At least those bags are useful for something | Aug 07 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7689012 | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@overnetbh@joindiaspora.com reshared: #microsoft loves #linux http://fossbytes.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-deletes-linux-dual-boot-partitions/ very much. | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "I agree w/ Dr. Schestowitz. Microsoft has enough market knowledge to know that." | Aug 07 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | Linux Users Claim That Windows 10 Anniversary Update Deletes Dual-boot Partitions [ http://ur1.ca/pk9z5 ] | Aug 07 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | I'm still waiting for them to issue an official excuse | Aug 07 19:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7680330 | Aug 07 19:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stop living in denial, #Israel is an evil state http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-1.734309 "acts of evil perpetrated by the state..." #likkud | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.haaretz.com | Haaretz.Com [ http://ur1.ca/pjqn7 ] | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "“those denying there’s a problem in Likkud or inadvertently acting as apologists of Likkud” who? who is apolizing the likud politics? tzafir isnt and me not 2, THAT is a strawman!" | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7669210 | Aug 07 19:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stanleytoothbrush@shrekislove.us reshared: Critics Fear Crackdown on Palestinian #FreeSpeech as #Israel Takes Aim at #Facebook https://theintercept.com/2016/07/28/critics-fear-crackdown-on-palestinian-free-speech-as-israel-takes-aim-at-facebook/ #censorship #politics | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | how? how can a critique of antisemitism justify antisemitism, EVEN if the critique would be wrong? | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | ps which “actions”? or do you mean arguments? | Aug 07 19:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> theintercept.com | Critics Fear Crackdown on Palestinian Free Speech as Israel Takes Aim at Facebook | Aug 07 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | I think you do a fine job reinforcing the stereotypes they're preying on | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7676299 | Aug 07 19:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So #facebook censors 1) criticism of #israel 2) pro- #palestine 3) #kashmir 4) #ukraine 5) #islam - all for political reasons. What else? | Aug 07 19:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | But why is cyber-bullying against the law? Why do we put barriers on free speech on the Internet? It’s because there’s a real problem, and it’s important enough to warrant limiting that freedom. Generally your freedom may become limited when it starts harming other people’s freedoms and / or well-being. | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | In those cases, calls of certain individuals to direct illegal actions (“Kill Jews”, in various variations) were actually followed. Thus you (occasionally) have to take those calls seriously. | Aug 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Merely calling for someone to commit suicide on the Internet is not really a problem. The problem is the volume of those calls, right? | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | No, cyber-bulling is applicable in cases where the goal is to cause self harm of destroy a person's mental state. The worse king of speech offense are threats (not just of violence but also doxing). | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | *or | Aug 07 19:22 |
| schestowitz | king->kinds | Aug 07 19:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7665344 | Aug 07 19:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Snowden Criticizing #WikiLeaks Shouldn't Actually Surprise Anyone http://www.insidesources.com/16156-2/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/edward-snowden-slams-wikileaks-for-not-curating-info-releases/ http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/07/edward-snowden-wikileaks-dnc-226386 | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | "thanks for the link. it pretty much confirms, with a few more details, the role of wikileaks in this that I had read about so far, which I find to be more ona sloppy than on the heroic side." | Aug 07 19:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.insidesources.com | Snowden Criticizing WikiLeaks Shouldn't Actually Surprise Anyone – InsideSources | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.rawstory.com | Edward Snowden jabs WikiLeaks for not ‘curating’ info releases | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.politico.com | Snowden knocks WikiLeaks for handling of DNC leak - POLITICO | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688898 | Aug 07 19:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Raspberry Pi Zero sized HAT has four sensors with 10 variables http://hackerboards.com/raspberry-pi-zero-sized-hat-has-four-sensors-with-10-variables/ #raspi #linux | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Raspberry Pi Zero sized HAT has four sensors with 10 variables | Aug 07 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | "pretty good stuff" | Aug 07 19:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 07 19:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 07 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | "you might think about your posts again “israel is an evil state” suggest, that itz the existence of israel, which is the problem, it seems like itz the essence of israel to be evil. claiming that EVERY critiszism towards the politics of israel would be called “antisemitic” is a strawman, a lie and factial wrong, thats bullshit, explained above! USE A DAMM ARGUMENT!' | Aug 07 19:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle | Aug 07 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | You're an idiot. you're attributing to title of an article to me. | Aug 07 19:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7642850 | Aug 07 19:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #york has a very large army base very close to centre of Town (walked past it). It also has Menwith Hill, which is an #nsa (yes, US!!!) base | Aug 07 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | "What other things have you heard about Wiesbaden, if I may know?" | Aug 07 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Not US base-related | Aug 07 19:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688815 | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: White Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter for Death of Unarmed Black Teen http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/white-police-officer-convicted-manslaughter-death-unarmed-black-teen is #chicago #police next? | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Wait until he is sentenced." | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | White Police Officer Convicted of Manslaughter for Death of Unarmed Black Teen | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/pkay6 ] | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | He might get some 'community service' at worst | Aug 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690966 | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Julian Assange’s War on Hillary Clinton Says About #WikiLeaks https://theintercept.com/2016/08/06/accusing-wikileaks-bias-beside-point/ wait, he's against #DonaldRump also | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Comments are much better than the article" | Aug 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Well, that sure is a relief | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> theintercept.com | What Julian Assange’s War on Hillary Clinton Says About WikiLeaks [ http://ur1.ca/pkay8 ] | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7690893 | Aug 07 19:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Watch #snowden tweets becomes an article? http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/snowden-dead-man-switch/ http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/08/06/snowden-gearing-up-its-time-he-says-in-a-very-mysterious-tweet/ http://www.inquisitr.com/3389936/edward-snowden-dead-mysterious-tweet-is-sending-conspiracy-theorists-into-a-meltdown/ http://www.inquisitr.com/3391112/edward-snowden-is-not-dead-hes-fine-says-insider-afte | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thelibertarianrepublic.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/pka37 ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Apparently it can’t specify a file on IPFS. I’d be very surprised if it’s not a SHA256 hash. I’m leaning toward the idea that it proves he has a certain file. Maybe it verifies that he received a certain file. There was some “now is the time” post earlier, right?" | Aug 07 19:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.collective-evolution.com | Snowden Gearing Up? “It’s Time” He Says In A Very Mysterious Tweet – Collective Evolution [ http://ur1.ca/pka38 ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.inquisitr.com | Edward Snowden Dead? Mysterious Tweet Is Sending Conspiracy Theorists Into A Meltdown [ http://ur1.ca/pka39 ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.inquisitr.com | Edward Snowden Is Not Dead: ‘He’s Fine’ Says Insider After Cryptic Code Tweet, Dead Man’s Switch Scare [ http://ur1.ca/pka3a ] | Aug 07 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | Let's wait and see. I'm surprised so many articles have been written about one single cryptic tweet. Cult of personalities, I guess... | Aug 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7643850 | Aug 07 19:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is not an operating system. It's mass #surveillance software that installs itself http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-collects-too-much-user-data-lacks-security-says-watchdog/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 07 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | "I don’t know, I was in panic upon the sight of Windows on my box, I didn’t think of that." | Aug 07 19:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Windows 10 collects too much user data, lacks security says watchdog - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/phme9 ] | Aug 07 19:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 07 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | Last time I had Windows on a box (dual) was more than a decade ago and it was Windows 2000 | Aug 07 19:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692025 | Aug 07 19:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #us Presidential Candidates playing the gender card http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/05/i-am-woman-hear-me-whore-i-am-man-hear-me-crow/ back to Medieval times? | Aug 07 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz | "More anti-Clinton than anti-Trump. To be expected from pro-Putin CP. The anti-Clinton stuff is all about sex with only one mention of Honduras, so it is basically sexism. If they think Clinton is more likely to nuke Russia than Trump is, they may be in for a VERY BIG surprise. There is also an attempt to equate the “neoliberalism” of the Tories and the Republicans, with “liberalism” - a very easy deception with an ignorant electorate | Aug 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I would not label CP pro-Russia. I can think of some sites that ARE pro-Russia, but not CP. | Aug 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688561 | Aug 07 19:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today I saw a shameless attack against Dr. #jillstein for suggesting Wi-Fi can be harmful. Is it not common sense? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/11/25/wifi-dangers/ | Aug 07 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Sadly enough, it is not common sense. People can’t imagine a mechanism for harm even when you send them journal articles proving the effect. They also value their toys more than the precautionary principle. Here’s a disappointing conversation where Jill Stein was smeared as a crank and I tried to inject a little common sense, | Aug 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/9KiNWifbF8E | Aug 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 19:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Wi-Fi, Cellphones, and Our Health | Aug 07 19:31 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-plus.google.com | Lauren Weinstein - Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/pkayo ] | Aug 07 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | I'm sure many more effective smears will be thrown her way. She gains support very fast. Donations up 1000% in the past few weeks alone. Cornel and Assange on her side... | Aug 07 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 07 19:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Aguero starting to look like #DavidMiranda https://twitter.com/ManCity/status/762344538614689795 #mcfc #manchester #mancity | Aug 07 19:36 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ManCity: HT | City 1-0 Arsenal @aguerosergiokun's strike on 30' the difference at the break 👍🏻 #cityontour #mcfc https://t.co/y2XRe7J1Lr | Aug 07 19:36 | |
| schestowitz | If I were to start a completely free culture sports site, would you financially support it? Sportazine was releasing under CC BY-SA, but I couldn't get the business partner to get rid of ads. Also, he was using GoDaddy, which isn't necessarily anti-freesoftware, but just feels dirty. I've been talking to some people about starting something pure, but I'm not in a place right now where i can do it without some financial backing. Obviously, we | Aug 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | can talk more in a separate thread if you want. Alternatively, you can email me at dw11@unhlaw.unh.edu. This thread is fine too, I just didn't know if this was the best venue for such a discussion."" | Aug 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I'd link to a good FOSSy site which covers English football and other sports I follow | Aug 07 19:37 |
| dabblers-buffet | Hello everyone, I just noticed something, I was talking with someone yesterday about EXIF data, and whenever I drag a video from my camera to my PC and back to my camera, it resets. | Aug 07 20:08 |
| dabblers-buffet | Is that normal? | Aug 07 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 07 22:22 |
| schestowitz | "what other sports do you follow? English football will definitely be one of the topics. Long-story-short, I’ve got to figure out if we have the support, in some sense, before I do a crowd-funding campaign. I’ve had a couple of unsuccessful crowd-funding campaigns in the past, and I want to get this one right." | Aug 07 22:22 |
| schestowitz | What would be an advantage of such a site being CC/FOSS? Hard to see how it would be practically useful? Data reuse maybe? APIs? | Aug 07 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kosovo_kosova/status/762400010126368768 | Aug 07 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kosovo_kosova: "@schestowitz: #facebook is not for 'friends' but 4 #people who dont have real #friends some times more than others https://t.co/Ot3FXZeaNj" | Aug 07 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/762413495828750336 | Aug 07 23:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Is she not against Wi-Fi? I thought that was what she meant in https://t.co/pTMgQKbwX6 | Aug 07 23:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> boingboing.net | Jill Stein is a fearmongering crank who thinks Wi-Fi harms children's brains / Boing Boing | Aug 07 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | I agree with her on Wi-Fi in schools and wrote about it years ago; there's academic literature to support her here | Aug 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | sad to see some author I never ever saw in BoinBoing (and I follow it for years) jumping on the anti-Stein bandwagon with insults | Aug 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Boing | Aug 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mutinyinmokum/status/762415669644177409 | Aug 07 23:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mutinyinmokum: @schestowitz @petrakramer https://t.co/w5LLClzWRi | Aug 07 23:33 | |
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| schestowitz | Seen that last week, posted a link to it | Aug 07 23:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/762417532565348352 | Aug 07 23:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: DOJ Official Tells 100 Federal Judges To Use Tor @schestowitz - https://t.co/1wrzvikMum | Aug 07 23:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> yro.slashdot.org | DOJ Official Tells 100 Federal Judges To Use Tor - Slashdot | Aug 07 23:40 | |
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| schestowitz | "'private' message is not invisible to GC** or NS*, but Control Risks probably wouldn't get to it. Do you have access to BB's salary (as a start)? With or without document? " | Aug 08 10:15 |
| schestowitz | "Different versions being shared may serve to incriminate different 'sources', so I'll skip this for now..." | Aug 08 10:21 |
| schestowitz | " I will start sniffing around again this week and let you know what I find ;-)" | Aug 08 10:22 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/3d-printers-break-eu-expands-copyright-furniture/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.privateinternetaccess.com | As 3D printers break through, EU expands copyright to furniture and extends term by a century | Privacy Online News | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697228/Women-BANNED-Dunkin-Donuts-Saudi-Arabia-unless-accompanied-man | Aug 08 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/security/nigerian-scammers-infect-themselves-with-own-malware-revealing-new-wirewire-fraud-scheme | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-spectrum.ieee.org | Nigerian Scammers Infect Themselves With Own Malware, Revealing New Wire-Wire Fraud Scheme - IEEE Spectrum [ http://ur1.ca/pke62 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://ww2.kqed.org/lowdown/2016/07/29/the-trans-pacific-partnership-explained/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > soft pedals the issues | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ww2.kqed.org | EXPLAINER: What’s the Deal with the TPP? | The Lowdown | KQED News [ http://ur1.ca/pke63 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-scientist-idUSKCN10I0ES?il=0 | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://mspoweruser.com/security-reseacher-explains-security-issues-related-to-windows-10-linux-subsystem/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reuters.com | Iran executes nuclear scientist for spying for U.S. | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pke64 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > Vista10 causes more problems | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mspoweruser.com | Security Reseacher explains security issues related to Windows 10 Linux subsystem at Blackhat - MSPoweruser [ http://ur1.ca/pke65 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://betanews.com/2016/08/07/linux-microsoft-surface-3/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > yet the infection spreads | Aug 08 11:35 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-betanews.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 will add Microsoft Surface 3 support [ http://ur1.ca/pke67 ] | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | > ? https://changelog.com/rfc/ | Aug 08 11:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://changelog.com/rfc/ ) | Aug 08 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/762599577044258816 | Aug 08 11:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @AlterNet American core culture is too greedy and selfish. They are tought to get ahead by pushing others behind. | Aug 08 11:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/762608619552665600 | Aug 08 12:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge Ends With Mayhem @schestowitz https://t.co/pdJczCC53c | Aug 08 12:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 08 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Aguero starting to look like #DavidMiranda https://twitter.com/ManCity/status/762344538614689795 #mcfc #manchester #mancity | Aug 08 17:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ManCity: HT | City 1-0 Arsenal @aguerosergiokun's strike on 30' the difference at the break 👍🏻 #cityontour #mcfc https://t.co/y2XRe7J1Lr | Aug 08 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | There are a variety of reasons; too many to list here. The most obvious one is the lack of tracking cookies and proprietary javascript that most sites use. | Aug 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | The next most obvious is just increasing awareness of free licensing in general. Even in an IP-focused law school, most people know nothing about Creative Commons or open source. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | There are a lot of things I’d like to do going forward, but will take time. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | For one, I’d like to bring more live broadcasting into the free culture space (in and out of sports). I’d really like to have a free culture Olympics (although I doubt the IOC would let us use that name). ConIFA has had a few successful tournaments outside of FIFA. I’d model things somewhat after them. Perhaps at FOSDEM or something like that. We could move around to different conferences. This is not something I’ve spent a lot of | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | time thinking about, because it is years in future. How many years will depend on a variety of factors. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Two, I’d like to build a collection of sports images, videos, and sounds for musicians, videographers, and other artists and journalists to use. Wikimedia is obviously doing some of this already. I don’t want to reinvent the wheel. We’d be pulling in what Wikinews is already doing, but https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Sports is pretty sparse. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikinews.org | Category:Sports - Wikinews, the free news source [ http://ur1.ca/pkfso ] | Aug 08 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | Three, I’d like to have free software games to compete with the likes of EA. Of course, we will be hurt by the same problems PES is…the lake of trademark licensing, but we could build in the same thing PES does…the ability to upload team, player, etc. names and attributes. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | APIs is not something I’ve thought a ton about outside of the potentials for 1, 2, and 3, but at this point I’m willing to listen to all ideas. | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Running such a site would be of interest to many, but it would involve A LOT of work to keep up to date and there are all sorts of "publicity rights" to work around. If it comes online, let people in Diaspora know. | Aug 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694224 | Aug 08 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: All mobile (surveillance) phones suck. They become bigger, heavier, impossible to remove batteries from... can't switch off cameras/mic. | Aug 08 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "I assume, then, that you do not carry one?" | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | On rare occasions like airport trips i carry hers | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle [ http://ur1.ca/pk0b9 ] | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | so you didnt posted an article which claimed “israel is an evil state”?" | Aug 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | RTs are not endorsements... | Aug 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694101 | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Women BANNED from Dunkin' Donuts in #SaudiArabia - unless they are accompanied http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697228/Women-BANNED-Dunkin-Donuts-Saudi-Arabia-unless-accompanied-man 'feminist' #clinton funded by them | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s absolute bullshit that that happened." | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.express.co.uk | Signs banning unaccompanied women put up in Saudi Dunkin Donuts | World | News | Daily Express [ http://ur1.ca/pkfu8 ] | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | That they managed to bribe Clinton for here passivity/silence? :-) | Aug 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7643850 | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is not an operating system. It's mass #surveillance software that installs itself http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-collects-too-much-user-data-lacks-security-says-watchdog/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "We’re so much better, than all the other Windows plebs out there." | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Windows 10 collects too much user data, lacks security says watchdog - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/phme9 ] | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Week in Solus – Install #33 https://solus-project.com/2016/08/07/this-week-in-solus-install-33/ #solus #gnu #linux | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Dr. Roy. Whats distro do you use? I quite like the look of Solus. Is it Debian based? I like Budgie." | Aug 08 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #33 | Solus [ http://ur1.ca/pkfue ] | Aug 08 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | haven't tried Solus or Budgie, I use Crouton on one small laptop and openbox on top of kubuntu on the other | Aug 08 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688078 | Aug 08 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Study: people will risk getting shot to replace everyday safety with #privacy https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/people-risk-shot-replace-safety-privacy/ #surveillance | Aug 08 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "What absolute nonsense. This is not a study at all, it’s just a Rick Falkvinge rant. East Germany was not a country of “jobs and safety”, it was suffering under a horrible repressive authoritarian communist dictatorship that betrayed, tortured and killed its people. Unfortunately, recent voting behaviour in Western democracies actually shows that most people don’t give a shit about privacy and would give it up for security in a | Aug 08 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.privateinternetaccess.com | Study: people will risk getting shot to replace everyday safety with privacy | Privacy Online News [ http://ur1.ca/pk2kh ] | Aug 08 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | heartbeat. Or even just convenience. Proof: the millions volunteering to be subjected to total permanent surveillance by carrying mobile phones, using Gmail and other “cloud” services, signing over their entire lives to Facebook, etc. etc. etc." | Aug 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | yes, phones are the worst privacy destoryers. They also come with back doors, two cameras, and long range microphone (for speaker). | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7676299 | Aug 08 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So #facebook censors 1) criticism of #israel 2) pro- #palestine 3) #kashmir 4) #ukraine 5) #islam - all for political reasons. What else? | Aug 08 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Not just calls for self harm. Also calls for harm in general. But those should be much more serious. For instance: specific and explicit plans for murder." | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Those are illegal and thankfully we have laws against those | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694196 | Aug 08 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #OnionDSL : Engineer Becomes #Tor -based One Man ISP To Fight Against Mass #Survelliance http://fossbytes.com/oniondsl-engineer-becomes-tor-based-one-man-isp-to-fight-against-mass-survelliance/ | Aug 08 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Great idea." | Aug 08 18:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | OnionDSL: Engineer Becomes Tor-based One Man ISP To Fight Against Mass Survelliance [ http://ur1.ca/pkfun ] | Aug 08 18:13 | |
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| schestowitz | >>>>>>> It's been going on for a while. My cousins down in Sweden lost theirs | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> some years ago. They were also without power for weeks. Fortunately | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> they live in old houses with wood stoves for cooking and heating. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, until very recently they've been unable to get a stronger | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> signal than 1/5 or 2/5 on their mobiles even though their land lines are | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> gone. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> "Smart" phones are even worse than regular mobiles Aside from the | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> microphones and cameras, there is the power consumption. I wonder how | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>>> >>>>>> many megawatts per day they consume in each country. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> I used to say a lot and write about radiation levels too. Some people | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> speak on the phone for hours. | Aug 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> There is that. I'm suspicious of all EM. It's still being debated, | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> however. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> With the power consumption there can be cold, hard numbers. Most smart | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> phone users I've asked talk about having to recharge several times per | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> 24 hr period. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > Corporate media now calls Jill Stein "crank" (Green Party, which I | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > support) for suggesting that Wi-Fi has no place in school for health | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > reasons. This was actually seriously debated (Slashdot covered it) a | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > decade ago. Apparently now it's classified as "crank"... when you need | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | >> > to attack a political contender. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > IIRC from around 10 years ago, there was an initial study showing that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > phone radiation was harmful. Then the private sector, which has veto on | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > research by virtue of the fact they control the research spending, | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > blocked any further studies. Then they spread the talking point that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > only a single study had shown negative effects. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > That is like when M$ saw the Asus EEE 701 selling out and blocked | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > manufacture of new units. Then at the end of the year they could go | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > back and say only a small percent of Linux units sold. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway back to the phones, in Norway there were a few people around that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > claimed to be able to feel the phones and point to where in a room or on | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > a person they were hidden. I didn't have a chance to investigate that | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | > though. | Aug 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692284 | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "publicity rights should be fine outside of video games, at least in the USA. Just as long as we don’t imply endorsement. I ran http://sportazine.com for 6.5 years, so I certainly understand the amount of work involved. I gave up Sportazine in June because I couldn’t get past the ads/proprietary javascript issue with my business partner. Most of the back-catalog there is CC BY-SA. We had some ideas for bigger projects that never got going | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I will let you know if we are able to get them going under a new site." | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Excellent | Aug 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694224 | Aug 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "Got it. | Aug 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7691092 | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Stollman said “seems ok”. Because twitter dont require real name. Facebook | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | actually not require real name too, but by formal rules real name | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | required - name actually unverifiable. So Stollmans’s statement that | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | twitter is better than fb based on formal declarations, not on deals | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | that actually does. Also he said that distributed systems is the best choice. | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | FSF twitter account is the bot, this is the source: | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | http://status.fsf.org/fsf | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | "Full article on FSF.org: https://www.fsf.org/twitter/twitter" | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694247 | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | "Red Hat are being stupid now? What has the world come to." | Aug 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | The move of money. For shareholders. | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | *love | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | "Nice. By the way, do you have a doctret in something?' | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Medical biophysics | Aug 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7695134 | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Agreed. Useless. | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Actually though, it has one use: Allowing people with money one more outlet to proclaim to the rest of the world that they have money. | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | yes, social status symbol | Aug 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7688078 | Aug 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | "Hm? Long range microphone (for speaker)? I’m missing something." | Aug 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Cellphones can listen to more than an entire room | Aug 09 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Dhanesh95/status/762943303813738496 | Aug 09 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/oh-not-again-us-reportedly-found-new-secret-software-in-vw-diesels/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.cnet.com | Oh, not again: US reportedly finds new secret software in VW diesels - Roadshow | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-another-migration-stares-at-kashmiri-pandits-2242002 | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dnaindia.com | Terror group Lashkar-e-Islam threatens Kashmiri pandits asking them to leave or get killed | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/pkk88 ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://act.yapc.eu/ye2016/conferenceInfo.html | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > 24-26 Aug | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-act.yapc.eu | YAPC::Europe 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/pkk89 ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/08/news/companies/delta-system-outage-flights/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-money.cnn.com | Delta flights resume but cancellations and delays continue - Aug. 8, 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8a ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://mrpogson.com/2016/08/08/innuendo-from-me-just-like-trump/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mrpogson.com | Innuendo, From Me, Just Like Trump | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8b ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > "She highlighted that the already acute problem of child brides in | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > Turkey, of whom there are already around 3.5 million, would deepen | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > following the ruling. " | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-constitutional-court-stirs-outrage-by-annulling-child-sex-abuse-clause.aspx | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/child-abuse_forced-underage-marriages-rise-in-switzerland/42358794 | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.hurriyetdailynews.com | Hürriyet Daily News | LEADING NEWS SOURCE FOR TURKEY AND THE REGION [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8e ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2016/08/08/peter-sunde-kolmisoppi-oj-jag-startade-visst-en-sekt | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.swissinfo.ch | Forced underage marriages rise in Switzerland - SWI swissinfo.ch [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8f ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2016/08/08/peter-sunde-kolmisoppi-oj-jag-startade-visst-en-sekt | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-svenska.yle.fi | Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi: Oj, jag startade visst en sekt | Radio Vega | svenska.yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8h ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8i ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?sid=14905&cid=385335 | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?sid=14905&cid=385335 ) | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > systemd | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/human-rights/20848-iran-regime-tries-to-justify-the-execution-of-young-people | Aug 09 13:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ncr-iran.org | NCRI - National Council of Resistance of Iran - Iran regime tries to justify the execution of young people [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8k ] | Aug 09 13:01 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:01 |
| schestowitz | > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2016/08/chinese-hunting-chinese-over-pop3-in.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-bsdly.blogspot.com | That grumpy BSD guy: Chinese Hunting Chinese Over POP3 In Fjord Country [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8l ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > POP3 ???? !!!! | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@falkvinge/the-founder-of-the-pirate-party-brings-liberty-ideas-to-steem | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > twitter positioning itself as authentication, see comments below post | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-steemit.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8n ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > "all because an unelected bureaucrat suddenly decided to act like a | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > mini-dictator and make changes in what was once a source of excellent | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > detail about the population at large" | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/74221-abs-head-must-take-blame-if-census-compromised.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.wired.com/2016/08/child-dead-climate-change-thawed-anthrax-infected-reindeer/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.itwire.com | iTWire - ABS head must take blame if census compromised [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8p ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.wired.com | Siberian Child Dies After Climate Change Thaws an Anthrax-Infected Reindeer | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8q ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/article/3105530/government/the-us-marines-are-testing-a-pocket-sized-helicopter-drone.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.pcworld.com | The US Marines are testing a pocket-sized helicopter drone | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8s ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2467342/sauron-spyware-attacking-targets-in-belgium-china-russia-and-sweden | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theinquirer.net | 'Sauron' spyware attacking targets in Belgium, China, Russia and Sweden | TheINQUIRER [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8t ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2467262/met-police-still-running-windows-xp-on-27-000-computers | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theinquirer.net | Met Police still running Windows XP on 27,000 computers | TheINQUIRER [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8u ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > forget XP, /Windows/ in general is dangerously out of date | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/kgb-chiefs-diaries-may-shed-light-on-fate-of-swedish-diplomat-wh/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | Swedish diplomat who saved thousands of Hungarian Jews in WW2 then disappeared was 'liquidated by Soviet KGB' [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8v ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > x | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/clock-boy-ahmed-mohamed-sues-irving-schools-police-for-wrongful-arrest/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | “Clock boy” Ahmed Mohamed sues Irving schools, police for wrongful arrest | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8w ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > this is not a tech story | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/08/the-white-house-just-released-the-federal-source-code-policy-to-help-government-agencies-go-open-source/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techcrunch.com | The White House releases policy to help government agencies go open source | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/pkk8y ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/290789-white-house-releases-open-source-software-policy | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thehill.com | White House releases open source software policy | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/pkk90 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/08/open-source-rockwell.aspx | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fcw.com | White House releases open source policy -- FCW [ http://ur1.ca/pkk91 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > "suggested that the new MacBook Pros would offer ‘Touch ID support,’" | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://9to5mac.com/2016/08/08/new-macbooks-expected-to-feature-touch-id-power-button-as-well-as-oled-touch-panel/ | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-9to5mac.com | New MacBooks expected to feature Touch ID power button as well as OLED touch-panel | 9to5Mac [ http://ur1.ca/pkk92 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > as UID or password? Former is ok latter is insecure | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290798-pence-trump-will-end-the-war-on-coal | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thehill.com | Pence: Trump will ‘end the war on coal’ | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/pkk93 ] | Aug 09 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | > boil that planet | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/three-million-working-families-one-pay-cheque-away-from-losing-their-home-a7179606.html | Aug 09 13:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.independent.co.uk | Three million working families are 'one pay cheque away from losing their home' | News | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/pkk94 ] | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.christopherprice.net/gplv4-starting-the-conversation-2580.html | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.christopherprice.net | GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation | Christopher Price [ http://ur1.ca/pkk96 ] | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/its-hard-work-printing-nothing | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tedunangst.com | it’s hard work printing nothing [ http://ur1.ca/pkk97 ] | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-importance-of-bell-labs-unix.htm | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-importance-of-bell-labs-unix.htm ) | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/08/08/the-classified-appendix-fifth-bullet/ | Aug 09 13:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/08/08/the-classified-appendix-fifth-bullet/ ) | Aug 09 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | > = | Aug 09 13:03 |
| schestowitz | [04:29] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: the bot fell. Crap, I didn't notice | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [04:35] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: the bot fell. Crap, I didn't notice | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [06:06] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: the bot fell. Crap, I didn't notice | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [13:01] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: probably too early over there :-) :-) | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [13:59] <qu1j0t3> hi | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [13:59] <qu1j0t3> i'll fix | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | [14:00] <schestowitz> Thanks :) excellent! | Aug 09 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/762985454060834816 | Aug 09 15:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Windows 10 updates has been reported to delete Linux partitions without confirmation or even warning." https://t.co/4tdiD1b8hq #vista10 | Aug 09 15:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ostatic.com | More Fun with Windows 10, Yabba Dabba Do Bedrock Linux | Aug 09 15:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/systemdsucks/status/763021325531279360 | Aug 09 15:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@systemdsucks: «I found that ExecStop run straight after ExecStart.» INIT: YOU'RE DOING IT ASSBACKWARDSLY WRONG https://t.co/sYl1nVAu7e | Aug 09 15:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: systemd: remember to keep the daemons alive https://t.co/nOCimFDt4h #systemd mess | Aug 09 15:47 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7682823 | Aug 09 17:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zionism now attacking Shami Chakrabarti, reinforcing the perception that all sceptics are cast "anti-Semites" http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161570/labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-rewards-shami-chakrabarti-peerage #uk | Aug 09 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | "oh, now i get it, israelian citizens or jews cant be antisemitic, right? and non-white people cant be racist and women or lgbtq-people cant be sexist? seriously? is it the jewish blood which makes them immun against antisemitism? it is the cutten foreskin? or the child-murdering which makes them immun? o0" | Aug 09 17:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thejc.com | Anger as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn hands Shami Chakrabarti a peerage | The Jewish Chronicle | Aug 09 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | "ever heard about otto weininger, david burros, gerad menuhin or israel shamir, just to name a few?" | Aug 09 17:54 |
| schestowitz | "so, again, critizes israel, but dont do it in antisemitic way, untill now, the most of your anti-israel-postings arent really antisemitic, the most are just factial and historical wrong ;)" | Aug 09 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696463 | Aug 09 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #checkpoint spam http://fossbytes.com/quadrooter-900-million-android-phones-at-risk-check-if-your-device-is-safe/ all 'smart' phones can be remotely hijacked anyway (baseband bugs), defective by design | Aug 09 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | "Sometimes it pays to have an old phone." | Aug 09 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | "QuadRooter" Puts 900 Million Smartphones "At Risk" — How To Check If Your Device Is Safe [ http://ur1.ca/pklgz ] | Aug 09 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | "Still running that, what was it, Android 2.3 phone?' | Aug 09 17:56 |
| schestowitz | "2.2 :3' | Aug 09 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Security by obscurity | Aug 09 17:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/post/7697648 | Aug 09 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://joindiaspora.com/post/7697648 ) | Aug 09 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697648 | Aug 09 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Our Deteriorating Environment: Is Anybody Listening? http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/08/our-deteriorating-environment-is-anybody-listening/ "Amazon basin, is losing its ability to soak up excess carbon dioxide" | Aug 09 17:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'www.counterpunch.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/08/our-deteriorating-environment-is-anybody-listening/ ) | Aug 09 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697607 | Aug 09 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Empire supports #clinton [PDF] https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3007589/Nationalsecurityletter.pdf is this an endorsement at all??? These are the people who abuse all US citizens' rights. | Aug 09 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696451 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Big #alcohol is working to undermine #marijuana legalization, Wikileaks confirms http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2016/08/08/big-alcohol-is-working-to-undermine-marijuana-legalization-wikileaks-confirms/ #wikileaks #dncleaks | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blog.sfgate.com | Big alcohol is working to undermine marijuana legalization, Wikileaks confirms - Smell the Truth [ http://ur1.ca/pklho ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "If it’s not Monsanto ruining marijuana, it’s the alcohol industry trying to save their business model." | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698056 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Art magazine questions censorship of #LisaYuskavage nude http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/booksandarts/art-magazine-questions-censorship-lisa-yuskavage-nude-cover/7702270 #censorship of abstracts too https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/09/art-magazine-vault-adds-stickers-to-breasts-of-painted-nude-at-distributors-request | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.abc.net.au | Art magazine questions censorship of Lisa Yuskavage nude - Books and Arts - ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/pklhr ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Art magazine covers nipples of nude by celebrated artist with huge yellow stickers | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pklhs ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "White Taliban.' | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697299 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ApricityOS 07.2016 Screenshot Tour http://www.linuxscreenshots.org/?release=Apricity%20OS%2007.2016 #gnu #linux | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxscreenshots.org | Apricity OS 07.2016 Screenshot Tour [ http://ur1.ca/pklht ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Now that’s a very sexy distribution of GNU/Linux. Looks like they are using the Numix icon set." | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697573 | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Apartheid #Israel 's war on #water https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water "impose horrific conditions on life for Palestinians" | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water ) | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | first, itz not apartheid, that a banalization of the south-african racist apartheid-regime, second http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWESTBANKGAZA/Resources/IsraelWaterAuthorityresponse.pdf | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Peace/Guide/Pages/THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN INTERIM AGREEMENT.aspx | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | but facts and arguments only disturbe your bullshit propaganda | Aug 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mfa.gov.il | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/pklhw ] | Aug 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697279 | Aug 09 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? http://hackerboards.com/is-that-a-debian-all-in-one-pc-in-your-pocket/ #debian #gnu #linux | Aug 09 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "If I am not mistaken it requires non-free stuff to boot?' | Aug 09 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? [ http://ur1.ca/pkli0 ] | Aug 09 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | I guess these days most things are like that, unfortunately, unless advertised otherwise | Aug 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692960 | Aug 09 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Mathieu Tremblin** is a French artist who decided to fix this. He paints over the ugly graffiti and makes them legible...  ![](/camo/fc2fbbaace422e353427c20616b | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.demodetouslesjours.eu | Demo de tous les jours - Mathieu Tremblin | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Needs to be done on Comic Sans… just kidding!" | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696628 | Aug 09 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Did NSA Try to Destroy Hillary Clinton?" written by former #nsa staff and liar, caught 'cheating' on wife with http://gawker.com/nsa-spook-turned-twitter-pundit-goes-dark-after-dick-pi-1594848048 | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> gawker.com | NSA Spook-Turned-Twitter-Pundit Goes Dark After Dick Pic Surfaces [ http://ur1.ca/pklie ] | Aug 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | “In one screencapped exchange, he sent her a picture of his mostly flaccid penis.” | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Important details. | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Another Weiner! (Winner) | Aug 09 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7692948 | Aug 09 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Department of Justice Official Tells Hundred Federal Judges to Use #Tor http://motherboard.vice.com/read/department-of-justice-official-tells-hundred-federal-judges-to-use-tor WHAT? Not just for PAEDOPHILES ?! #bbc lied? | Aug 09 18:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> motherboard.vice.com | Department of Justice Official Tells Hundred Federal Judges to Use Tor | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pklik ] | Aug 09 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | "Well yeah, the US government paid for it to be developed for their benefit so of course they should be using it, e.g. https://youtu.be/CJNxbpbHA-I?t=3m46s" | Aug 09 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | The Tor Network [30c3] (with Jacob Applebaum) - YouTube | Aug 09 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697777 | Aug 09 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Old] GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation https://www.christopherprice.net/gplv4-starting-the-conversation-2580.html #gnu #gpl #gplv4 | Aug 09 18:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.christopherprice.net | GPLv4 – Starting the Conversation | Christopher Price [ http://ur1.ca/pkk96 ] | Aug 09 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Looks like GPLv3 is doing its job. It reads like companies bitching about having “their” cheap labour forces taken away. Bitching about ethics being enforced." | Aug 09 18:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694247 | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No, no. #microsoft LOOOOOVES #linux - there's even a piece of GIF to prove it, with a heart in the middle. https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/762395953890492416 | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Microsoft even screws up Linux: Reseacher explains security issues related to Windows 10 Linux subsystem at Blackhat https://t.co/sIhOro84F6 | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | "I see. Shame man. RedHat used to be sO cool. What are they doing now that’s ‘immoral’ in the free software world?" | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | FSF isn't fighting over it | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696717 | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft is looking for sources of income while laying off staff https://www.vg247.com/2016/07/26/epic-boss-thinks-microsoft-will-make-steam-progressively-worse-with-new-windows-10-updates/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Layoffs http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Though he believes this to be a possibility, Sweeney said that Microsoft “might not be competent enough” to actually bring this plan to fruition. | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.vg247.com | Epic boss thinks Microsoft will make Steam “progressively worse” with new Windows 10 updates [Update] | VG247 [ http://ur1.ca/pkhzw ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft - Layoffs - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/cn9t8 ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | HA! | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696902 | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "message I kept hearing over and over again is that what we do today in the security industry isn’t working.” http://sobersecurity.blogspot.com/2016/08/were-figuring-out-security-problem.html | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | "yep. there’s your business plan in a nutshell. use out of date but easy to implement security protocol, wait to get hacked, let your insurance pay everybody, starting with the hacker. don’t bother to even fire numbnuts who did the original security layout (you may yet need another excuse). issue press release: security upgrade implemented." | Aug 09 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> sobersecurity.blogspot.com | Sober Security: We're figuring out the security problem (finally) [ http://ur1.ca/pkliu ] | Aug 09 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696651 | Aug 09 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Media still floats the #snowden "dead" nonsense http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cryptic-edward-snowden-its-time-8579775 http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1595-bizarre-tweet-by-edward-snowden-sparks-fears-he-might-be-dead http://www.morningledger.com/edward-snowden-dead-tweet-confirms-death-over-nsa-leak/1390515/ | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mirror.co.uk | Cryptic Edward Snowden "it's time" tweet then bizarre coded message sparks fears whistleblower has been captured or killed - Mirror Online | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.neonnettle.com | Bizarre Tweet By Edward Snowden Sparks Fears He Might Be Dead | Neon Nettle | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.morningledger.com | Edward Snowden Dead: Tweet Confirms Death Over NSA Leak? | Aug 09 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | "A 256-bit number written in hexadecimal. Could be an RSA key, but I still think it’s more likely the output of sha256sum. It acknowledges receipt of a file." | Aug 09 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697563 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Will #Uber Go Under? http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/37141-will-uber-go-unter deserves to die. Utterly evil and dangerous company https://stallman.org/uber.html | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "there’ll soon be uber without uber via the blockchain… e.g. Arcade City (but even that is a start-up, to hell with start-ups)" | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.truth-out.org | Will Uber Go Under? | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> stallman.org | Reasons not to use Uber | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698134 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/election-2016-0 friend of Gates http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech | Alternet | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Its happening here in Argentina too.' | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | brazil too? | Aug 09 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Week in Solus – Install #33 https://solus-project.com/2016/08/07/this-week-in-solus-install-33/ #solus #gnu #linux | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Wow. Great work man!. How many years did you study fot?' | Aug 09 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #33 | Solus | Aug 09 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | 3-4 | Aug 09 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697332 | Aug 09 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-5.8-Feature-Freeze-Coming #qt #freesw | Aug 09 18:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze - Phoronix | Aug 09 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | 'What is a ‘feature freeze’?" | Aug 09 18:09 |
| schestowitz | they stop adding new features and just fix bugs | Aug 09 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696361 | Aug 09 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People care about #us #politics because far more than any other county, it affects pretty much every county. Some get bombed, millions die. | Aug 09 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "In many ways it’s also the cultural capital of the world. The state of the US is felt by most westerners no matter if they live there or not." | Aug 09 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreascseh/status/763077898215444480 | Aug 10 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID. | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurielcalhoun/status/763081998353170433 | Aug 10 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@laurielcalhoun: More arms for #ISIS in development. When will the first shipment make its way to #Syria? #CausticIncompetenceAgency https://t.co/5eQhEqCstr | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The US Marines are testing a pocket-sized helicopter drone https://t.co/E9bc69kFmv #drones #surveillance for now, next a pistol | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | "More than 1 million without a job in #Germany up 10% compared to 2015 #Merkel #unemployment #EU $EURUSD http://mfor.hu/cikkek/makro/Kozel_1_millio_allastalan_van_Nemetorszagban.html … @schestowitz" | Aug 10 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mfor.hu | Közel 1 millió állástalan van Németországban - mfor.hu | Aug 10 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | He probably can. | Aug 10 00:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698135 | Aug 10 00:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2015: Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2015/12/08/donald-trump-thinks-he-can-call-bill-gates-to-shut-down-the-internet/ #microsoft #billgates #donaldRump | Aug 10 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | "He probably can." | Aug 10 00:52 |
| schestowitz | He has connections | Aug 10 00:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.forbes.com | Forbes Welcome [ http://ur1.ca/o9e28 ] | Aug 10 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697573 | Aug 10 00:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Apartheid #Israel 's war on #water https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water "impose horrific conditions on life for Palestinians" | Aug 10 00:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://socialistworker.org/2016/07/28/apartheid-israels-war-on-water ) | Aug 10 00:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | In 2011 alone, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) destroyed 89 water structures. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Because those were illegal. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | The only source of underground water in the West Bank is the Mountain Aquifer, of which Israel controls 80 percent. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | That’s according to the Oslo Accords (or rather: Israel provides even more water than required by the Oslo Accords). | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Palestinians are also not permitted to draw water from the Jordan River. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | There are hardly any water in the Jordan River. No, it’s not really a river. In much of the year you can cross it walking. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Right now there aren’t enough water for people in the northern Samaria area. Settlers included. There is a joint (Palestinian-Israel) committee that should meet to approve some new projects. However due to disagreements at the political level (both Israelis and Palestinians blame each other) it hadn’t had a meeting for quite some time. | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7696463 | Aug 10 00:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #checkpoint spam http://fossbytes.com/quadrooter-900-million-android-phones-at-risk-check-if-your-device-is-safe/ all 'smart' phones can be remotely hijacked anyway (baseband bugs), defective by design | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Life by obscurity." | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossbytes.com | "QuadRooter" Puts 900 Million Smartphones "At Risk" — How To Check If Your Device Is Safe [ http://ur1.ca/pklgz ] | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697625 | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary #Clinton is no feminist: Just look at her stance on #Palestine http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/clinton-no-feminist-just-look-her-stance-palestine-330867186 and Saudi money she takes... | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.middleeasteye.net | Hillary Clinton is no feminist: Just look at her stance on Palestine | Middle East Eye [ http://ur1.ca/pkn88 ] | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | Right. If she were a real feminist who cares for women rights, she would have demanded that Israel annex the West Bank and Gaza immediately. This will apply the liberal Israeli legislation instead of the Palestinian (and certainly: the Hamas one in Gaza). Hmm… this doesn’t make much sense. But then so does the argument of the original article. | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Here is an example of the fine logic of the article: | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Instead, she expressed her concern for Israelis, who must constantly watch for “lurking” Palestinian terrorists. She did not stop to consider why a few young Palestinians, including a 12-year-old girl, would wield knives; nor did she acknowledge that 70 percent of the attacks happened within the West Bank, meaning in occupied territory, against the occupier. But then, that is in keeping with her denial of the Israeli occupation. | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | So the author is one of those who think that “freedom fighters” can kill anyone they want, as long as they belong to the oppressor? That this gives them the right to just kill people in the middle of the street? | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Two wrongs don’t make a right. And Clinton does not condone such flawed reasoning. | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 00:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697638 | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Israel Calls on Citizens to Track and Report Activists in 'Ruthless' War Against #BDS http://commondreams.org/news/2016/08/08/israel-calls-citizens-track-and-report-activists-ruthless-war-against-bds moving further rightwards | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Just a reminder: the BDS movement hurts the cause of the Palestinians, as well as those of the Israelis." | Aug 10 00:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Israel Calls on Citizens to Track and Report Activists in 'Ruthless' War Against BDS | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/pkn8a ] | Aug 10 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | Hardly, unless you speak of the farmers | Aug 10 00:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697279 | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? http://hackerboards.com/is-that-a-debian-all-in-one-pc-in-your-pocket/ #debian #gnu #linux | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> hackerboards.com | Is that a Debian all-in-one PC in your pocket? [ http://ur1.ca/pkli0 ] | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | "True. I get used to using them. Pretty much how life is, not everything will be your way unless you fight for it and (in an example) get a free BIOS like libreboot." | Aug 10 00:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697332 | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-5.8-Feature-Freeze-Coming #qt #freesw | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh I see. That is very important, or else your backlog becomes unbearable or you simply cannot go forward with new features as bugs exist that shan’t allow these features to work properly." | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.8 Is Preparing For Its Feature Freeze - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/pkn8g ] | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698134 | Aug 10 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/election-2016-0 friend of Gates http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Aug 10 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | "It is happening worldwide' | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | Trump Offers Huge Favors to Billionaires, and Calls It a Big Economic Speech | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/pkn8i ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722 | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reuters.com | Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/p9bxr ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7694116 | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Week in Solus – Install #33 https://solus-project.com/2016/08/07/this-week-in-solus-install-33/ #solus #gnu #linux | Aug 10 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | "I see. I feel honoured to speak to you. Thank you." | Aug 10 00:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #33 | Solus [ http://ur1.ca/pkfue ] | Aug 10 00:56 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Kaz4Wokingham/status/763292166999445504 | Aug 10 09:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Kaz4Wokingham: @schestowitz If no-one in the community can sign this and win the local election...why is war the easy option here? https://t.co/SLRnng61oe | Aug 10 09:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Kaz4Wokingham: @schestowitz If no-one in the community can sign this and win the local election...why is war the easy option here? https://t.co/SLRnng61oe | Aug 10 09:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763292726024515584 | Aug 10 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive i'm not sure that's completely accurate. | Aug 10 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Eatherly | Aug 10 09:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Claude Eatherly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Aug 10 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763293534786981888 | Aug 10 09:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz it's disputed, but my personal research leads me to believe it's true. Just my opinion. | Aug 10 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | with some exceptions like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tibbets#Post-war_military_career | Aug 10 09:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Paul Tibbets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pkpuh ] | Aug 10 09:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294211340767233 | Aug 10 09:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive your assertion is that claude eatherly is a pilot who dropped a bomb on nagasaki and hiroshima? | Aug 10 09:42 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294408263372800 | Aug 10 09:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz citation needed. i met tibbets at eglin. he seemed neither insane nor dead by suicide. | Aug 10 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sweeney | Aug 10 09:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Charles Sweeney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pkpvd ] | Aug 10 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294705304035329 | Aug 10 09:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz parsons was so consumed by guilt he stayed in the navy for another decade. | Aug 10 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763294934493302785 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz sweeny was outspoken about his fervent desire that nuclear weapons never be used again, but was not suicidal | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295002004819968 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz no he supported it, didn't drop the bomb | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295119722151936 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz "the pilots who dropped the bombs either went insane, committed suicide, or tried to. Karma." | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295255844184064 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I was citing the article | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295371988652032 | Aug 10 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz also. the pilots didn't drop the bombs, but that's a nit pick. | Aug 10 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295374886834176 | Aug 10 09:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I've been researching this shit for 30 years | Aug 10 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295487181017089 https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295547968987136 | Aug 10 09:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz which article? | Aug 10 09:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I'm still learning as new stuff comes out | Aug 10 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/09/christianity-and-the-nagasaki-bomb/ http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201608090041.html | Aug 10 09:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-consortiumnews.com | Christianity and the Nagasaki Bomb – Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/pkpw4 ] | Aug 10 09:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.asahi.com | Nagasaki mayor tells world: Visit to see how nukes affect humans：The Asahi Shimbun [ http://ur1.ca/pkpw6 ] | Aug 10 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763295845038985217 | Aug 10 09:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz if you said "some pilots involved in the operation were consumed w/ grief." i would buy that. | Aug 10 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763295887489511424 | Aug 10 09:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz https://t.co/HTyZQjjUlG | Aug 10 09:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.huffingtonpost.com | 71 Years Ago: When Truman Failed To Pause -- And The Nagasaki War Crime Followed | Aug 10 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nani194347/status/763295972780834816 | Aug 10 09:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Nani194347: @schestowitz I don't think so. | Aug 10 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763296036664152064 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763296093723426816 https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763296100367249408 | Aug 10 09:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz yes. i have actually been to the peace park in nagasaki. | Aug 10 09:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz you don't have to make shit up to turn this into a compelling narrative. | Aug 10 09:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz well yeah even einstein went into a depression | Aug 10 09:50 | |
| schestowitz | well, his second letter was too late | Aug 10 09:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763296526403723268 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763296606049361920 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763297021646155776 https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763297177690972160 https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763297367168684033 | Aug 10 09:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I'm confused "the pilots didn't drop the bombs" | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz citation needed. | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive this article mentions nothing about suicidal bomber pilots beset with grief. | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz @TreborosLive yes. the mayors of nagasaki & hiroshima re-read the peace pledge every year in a ceremony. | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz my tweet was "71 Years Ago: When Truman Failed To Pause" | Aug 10 09:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763298022553886720 | Aug 10 09:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz this article also does not mention suicidal bomber pilots beset with grief. | Aug 10 09:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763298152476663809 | Aug 10 09:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive @schestowitz pilots fly planes. bombardiers drop bombs. | Aug 10 09:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TreborosLive/status/763298883648655361 | Aug 10 10:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TreborosLive: @OhMeadhbh @schestowitz I'm simply outside of my element, I RT'd an article about something I'm still researching. Lay the fuck off. | Aug 10 10:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OhMeadhbh/status/763299860724404224 | Aug 10 10:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@OhMeadhbh: @TreborosLive i'm not sure i have a problem with you. my problem is with @schestowitz claiming tibbets, albury, tibbets or lewis went insane | Aug 10 10:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/763303069106995200 | Aug 10 10:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SeaH2ONymph: @schestowitz Ridiculous assertion here: "In the first such attacks since 11 April..." | Aug 10 10:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BERNintoNITE/status/763304870589763584 | Aug 10 10:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BERNintoNITE: #YEMEN https://t.co/MYSlDQMJs7 | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: 500 days of fighting in Yemen: Humanitarian crisis is 'untenable' https://t.co/847BetDzG0 collective punishment again. #yemen | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/763305405804122112 | Aug 10 10:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SeaH2ONymph: #Yemen #US-sold bombs dropped by US-sold planes refueled by US Air Force as #Saudi gives #AlQaeda cover #InANutshell https://t.co/Yfu7Bkl79b | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Centcom Statement Presents War on Shi'ite Houthis as About al-Qaeda" https://t.co/v7srEciTDB remember #clinton funded by Saudis (personal) | Aug 10 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/763264458017873921 | Aug 10 10:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Linux TCP flaw enables remote attacks https://t.co/3xJvsbK0Lj https://t.co/zPKfmgjwlA #linux #security | Aug 10 10:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.itwire.com | iTWire - Linux TCP flaw enables remote attacks | Aug 10 10:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.sciencedaily.com | NO TITLE | Aug 10 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/763306078012600320 | Aug 10 10:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GringoPeruano: "When systems crumble & their critics divide into the two camps, the reformists usually prevail" #BRexit #TheresaMay https://t.co/VPC5shwmtn | Aug 10 10:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Wolff "finds capitalism irreparably inadequate and seeks transition to a new and different system." https://t.co/l50Hv15Ike | Aug 10 10:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/763316828705783808 | Aug 10 11:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz Trump&Trumper :) | Aug 10 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | There was a Palin rendition of that | Aug 10 11:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/clownf1st/status/763328115133255680 | Aug 10 11:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@clownf1st: @schestowitz read Eric Schlosser's 'Command & Control' recently. Brilliant and terrifying. | Aug 10 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.insidecounsel.com/2016/08/10/investing-in-new-technologies-how-corporate-legal?slreturn=1470828308 | Aug 10 12:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.insidecounsel.com | Investing in new technologies: How corporate legal departments are leading the way | Aug 10 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Efficiency is now essential for legal departments, and this has advanced software's role and accelerated technology adoption." Jeremiah Chan, Legal Director, Global Patents at Google, also is seeing more technology embraced by the GC's office | Aug 10 12:25 |
| schestowitz | https://mobile.twitter.com/glynmoody/status/763313492262789121 | Aug 10 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mobile.twitter.com | Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/pkqwo ] | Aug 10 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | Not when they're made against people of power, and not BY people in power (like Trump) | Aug 10 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/763353314931122176 | Aug 10 17:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JesselynRadack: Thinly-veiled suggestion by #Trump that someone cud shoot #Hillary has extremely tenuous 1st Amend protection https://t.co/okWZ5OeG3W | Aug 10 17:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Aug 10 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/763339831682498560 | Aug 10 17:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @Sheikh_al_Touar @schestowitz epo? | Aug 10 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | Oops, typo. I meant EPA | Aug 10 17:12 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/08/norwegian-supreme-court-no.html?showComment=1470827698645#c148223391655095640 | Aug 10 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Norwegian Supreme Court: no "retransmission" without "transmission" | Aug 10 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | I thought about the word 'retransmission' quite a while. | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | It seems that the word 'retransmission' is a significant limitation in comparison a 'further/subsequent communication'. I would avoid the word 'retransmission' as much as I could since it can unnecessary limit application of the law in future situations. | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | 'Retransmission' is more or less a technically defined event. While a 'further/subsequent communication' does not dependent on particular communication techniques and is linked only to the effect/result achieved with such a subsequent communication. | Aug 10 17:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 17:23 |
| *pidgin_log (~roy@host86-134-107-212.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes | Aug 10 17:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700022 | Aug 10 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Linux #Kernel 4.7 Now Unofficially Available for #Slackware 14.2 and Derivatives http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-4-7-now-unofficially-available-for-slackware-14-2-and-derivatives-507136.shtml #gnu | Aug 10 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "I have never used Slackware. I should try it out oneday." | Aug 10 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.7 Now Unofficially Available for Slackware 14.2 and Derivatives | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700226 | Aug 10 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Let's hope for a judge who understands #programming (and same from the Jury if it's a jury trial) https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/763044867857608704 #googacle | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Meanwhile judges want to tell us about how Tor doesn’t work." | Aug 10 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FOSSpatents: A 3rd #Googacle trial *will* happen. No doubt. A key hearing will take place in a week from tomorrow. https://t.co/ag57niG9Ju #java #android | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | Or rather, how it's only for "criminals" | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700002 | Aug 10 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If Pres candidates were OSes, #clinton =OS X (glossy, user-betraying), Trump=Windows, #gnu #linux would be #greensUSA small, modest, ethical | Aug 10 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Pretty close. Though Jill Stein is giving a platform to unethical vaccine-denial nonsense." | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Well gnu Linux still accepts easily proprietary blobs for convenience. Many many dists support non free software in their packages repository. | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Afaik, OpenBSD does great job to limit that tradeoff as much as possible. | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | But ok this is BSD license, nit GPL. | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:03 |
| schestowitz | No, Jill Stein gives a platform for FDA sceptics, not anti-vaxxers. That's a lie. http://www.jill2016.com/baseless_anti_vax_attacks_against_dr_jill_stein_distract_from_concerns | Aug 10 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.jill2016.com | Baseless “Anti-Vax” Attacks Against Dr. Jill Stein Distract from Her Call to End the Corrupting Influence of the Pharmaceutical Industry Within the FDA - Jill Stein 2016 | Aug 10 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700027 | Aug 10 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LinuxMint 18: Fresher Than Ever http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/83781.html?rss=1 #gnu #linux | Aug 10 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I really love the idea of X-apps." | Aug 10 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "I like Linux Mint. Let’s see what’s new. But there should also be a support of KDE P. 5!" | Aug 10 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxinsider.com | Linux Mint 18: Fresher Than Ever | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Aug 10 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I’d love to see support for KDE Plasma 5." | Aug 10 18:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't like Plasma5, at least not yet (used it for a year) | Aug 10 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699674 | Aug 10 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/WikiLeaks-Offers-20K-Reward-for-Information-in-Murder-of-DNC-Staffer-Seth-Rich-389622801.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand #dncleaks #dncleak | Aug 10 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:07 |
| schestowitz | A reward of as much as $25,000 is also being offered by the Metropolitan Police Department. | Aug 10 18:07 |
| schestowitz | So is that the wikileaks 20 plus another 5? | Aug 10 18:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.nbcwashington.com | WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer | NBC4 Washington | Aug 10 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | It sounds like the police dept is trying to get their hands on the info so they can lie about it then release it to the public. | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | MAYBE KINDA A LITTLE BIT LIKE VINCE FOSTER… >.> | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | I never heard of him | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699997 | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #VineLinux 6.5 Enters Beta, Adopts Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, Glibc 2.23 & GCC 4.9.3 http://news.softpedia.com/news/vine-linux-6-5-enters-beta-adopts-linux-kernel-4-4-lts-glibc-2-23-gcc-4-9-3-507124.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Vine looks minimalist. I like it. They need an English site though." | Aug 10 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Berry also | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Vine Linux 6.5 Enters Beta, Adopts Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, Glibc 2.23 & GCC 4.9.3 | Aug 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699937 | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Some "photos show the decaying former Olympic sites across the world" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730579/As-Rio-Olympics-kicks-eerie-photographs-reveal-derelict-sites-past-games.html #olympics #waste #politics | Aug 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "What happened to good old fashioned squatting? I see the potential for Lotus Ponds, Paradise Gardens overflowing with food, and communal living…" | Aug 10 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.dailymail.co.uk | The decaying former Olympic sites across the world | Daily Mail Online | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700146 | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.3 Adds HiDPI Improvements, Linux Minimal Mode http://news.softpedia.com/news/owncloud-desktop-client-2-2-3-adds-hidpi-improvements-linux-minimal-mode-507134.shtml #freesw | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730579/As-Rio-Olympics-kicks-eerie-photographs-reveal-derelict-sites-past-games.html" | Aug 10 18:09 |
| schestowitz | it's already out | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.3 Adds HiDPI Improvements, Linux Minimal Mode | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Can’t wait for #Nextcloud." | Aug 10 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7697937 | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Olympics fan claims Twitter killed his account after posting Rio videos http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/08/olympics-fan-claims-twitter-killed-account-rio-videos/ #twitter #censorship #copyright | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Apparently, Twitter is the law." | Aug 10 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.co.uk | Olympics fan claims Twitter killed his account after posting Rio videos [Updated] | Ars Technica UK | Aug 10 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | They call it chokepoints, Facebook also, they just need to police these to control communications | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7699985 | Aug 10 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Version of #GParted http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/new-version-gparted #gnu #linux #partitioning #freesw #livecd | Aug 10 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "GParted’s Live CD is one of the best tools any computer owner should have." | Aug 10 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxjournal.com | New Version of GParted | Linux Journal | Aug 10 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | I have mine here, for years now... just in case | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7701030 | Aug 10 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More people have been killed in the #iraq #oil invasion than in the #japan bombings. #bush worse than #truman but no nukes? | Aug 10 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | D.U. bombs all over Iraq ! | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | depleted uranium is nuclear ! | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Don't tell the soldiers who want to Iraq and might get tumours later in life. They might - gasp -sue | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | *went | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7700085 | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Moddle is great. My school uses it at moodle.bridgehouse.org.za as well as my brother’s animation college." | Aug 10 18:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moodle App Could Be a Game Changer for Community Organizations http://fossforce.com/2016/08/moodle-app-community-organizations/ I deployed it a few times. #freesw #education | Aug 10 18:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossforce.com | Moodle App Could Be a Game Changer for Community Organizations | FOSS Force | Aug 10 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | Hope it spreads | Aug 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7698016 | Aug 10 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Medical Researchers Want Up To Five Years Exclusivity For Clinical Trial Data Derived From Volunteers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160804/08460835154/medical-researchers-want-up-to-five-years-exclusivity-clinical-trial-data-derived-volunteers.shtml disgusting. | Aug 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "What a disgraceful thing." | Aug 10 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Medical Researchers Want Up To Five Years Exclusivity For Clinical Trial Data Derived From Volunteers | Techdirt | Aug 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Even academia has been corrupted. | Aug 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7478763 | Aug 10 18:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wurstaufbrot@pod.geraspora.de reshared: Fairphone's Google-free open source OS is now available to download http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/29/11535332/fairphone-os-open-source | Aug 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | durchs Zimmer tanz | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Endlich! Mein nagelneues Fairphone 2 liegt seit über einer Woche ungenutzt zuhause, weil ich auf dieses Release gewartet habe. Endlich hat die Quälerei mit dem übelst sturzgeschädigten Galaxy S3 ein Ende :-D | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theverge.com | Fairphone's Google-free open source OS is now available to download | The Verge | Aug 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Freut mich für dich :-)" | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Da hast du aber lang gewartet :-D Gibt’s schon 'ne Weile…" | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Moooment… | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | …Autsch. Ich habe da eben etwas verwechselt und mich darum zu früh gefreut. Das ist ja nur ein ganz normales 5er-Android abzüglich der Google-Dienste. D. h. es gibt keine Rechteverwaltung von Apps, außer der ausgesprochen umständlichen und nur teilweise funktionierenden Notlösung SRT Appguard. | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Eine Alternative wie CyanogenMod gibt es weiterhin nicht für das FP2. Hilft wohl nix, ich werde meinen Kram erstmal provisorisch auf das Fairphone OS umziehen müssen und später nochmal auf das “richtig freie” OS. Bisher hatte ich nämlich sowieso keine Zeit für Umzugsaktionen, aber dieses WE werde ich die haben. Und da werde ich ganz sicher nicht nur rumsitzen und meinem S3 beim Sterben zusehen… | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "Warte auch auf CM für das FP2… Freier als CM ist FP OSOS schon, würde ich sagen. Aber ich kann selbst nicht auf die CM-typischen Features verzichten.' | Aug 10 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7706317 | Aug 11 23:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Arch Linux Is Now Officially Powered by Linux Kernel 4.7, Update Your Systems http://news.softpedia.com/news/arch-linux-is-now-officially-powered-by-linux-kernel-4-7-update-your-systems-507224.shtml | Aug 11 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | "has a new security module #LoadPin: it makes sure that modules loaded by the Linux kernel originate from a single file system…goodidea" | Aug 11 23:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Is Now Officially Powered by Linux Kernel 4.7, Update Your Systems | Aug 11 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/763864477016219652 | Aug 11 23:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Do you ever sleep? | Aug 11 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | Life is too short for sleep (wink, just kidding) | Aug 11 23:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/763865522660339712 | Aug 11 23:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz surveillance phone's connection icon | Aug 11 23:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/silentlennie/status/764004422892433408 | Aug 12 08:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@silentlennie: Strange article debunks itself and has no facts why one is more secure than the other. Other than: less successful. https://t.co/x8co4MCdLG | Aug 12 08:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: How open source platform #Ghost solves security and productivity for bloggers https://t.co/qpWhVNcLNu #freesw | Aug 12 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/cheekbyname/status/764014126674784257 | Aug 12 09:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@cheekbyname: @schestowitz Ugh, PHP? I'll take my chances with the asteroid ;-) | Aug 12 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/764016431377756162 | Aug 12 09:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sine_injuria: #NewsBud @NewsBud_ @csoghoian @schestowitz @jmpy_awake #Linux #VirtualBox #VPN at risk https://t.co/VNTh3y5Me7 | Aug 12 09:36 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CyberHitchhiker: Researchers announce Linux kernel “network snooping” bug https://t.co/212pGoCT0R #InfoSec | Aug 12 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/764035705379119105 | Aug 12 10:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: Democracy in an ethnically divided country ends up in panga season. https://t.co/lyM6DVJzxG | Aug 12 10:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Why does the west turn a blind eye to #Rwanda dictatorship? https://t.co/recc9JykNb "authoritarian controls and political violence." | Aug 12 10:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nilecoy/status/764138039908052994 | Aug 12 17:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@nilecoy: @matthewstinar @schestowitz @truthout They made a movie about that called "Network". 40 years ago. | Aug 12 17:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/764159994577227776 | Aug 12 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @DrJillStein @schestowitz Don't forget Zion.... | Aug 12 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/issagaro/status/764162004252823552 | Aug 12 19:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@issagaro: @schestowitz I saw this video some time ago,couldn't believe a child could be assaulted like this.Niya's response was natural,not criminal. | Aug 12 19:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7709692 | Aug 12 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are companies allowed to tweet about #Rio2016? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/08/are-companies-allowed-to-tweet-about.html abandon the #olympics - it's just business piggypacking dopers and cheats | Aug 12 19:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Are companies allowed to tweet about #Rio2016? | Aug 12 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764170706951270400 | Aug 12 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz the idea of the Olympics was to give states a common cause that wasn't a common enemy, thus reducing the risk of war. | Aug 12 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Even in Greek times? | Aug 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/764172118305173505 | Aug 12 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @TheOliverStone @SnowdenTheMovie The irony that many will dismiss as "cinematic" and ignore root cause. | Aug 12 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764173647594520576 | Aug 12 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Hmm, that's an interesting question. I don't actually know. Maybe! I meant the modern revival, though. | Aug 12 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Sounds revisionist | Aug 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | The Olympic games took place in Germany just as the country was moving straight into a world war of its own making | Aug 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764178665659830272 | Aug 12 20:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz To engage seriously in revisionism, we would need to consult primary sources. | Aug 12 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764178852130283520 | Aug 12 20:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Yeah, the Olympics haven't been notably successful at that goal, although we don't have a control world to compare to | Aug 12 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | The games can create envy | Aug 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764179779939622912 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764179821375225856 | Aug 12 20:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz yes, and they certainly strengthen states versus civil society and transnational organizations; stronger states = more war. | Aug 12 20:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz but that wasn't the ideology. | Aug 12 20:21 | |
| schestowitz | I believe (but unsure) that the Greek games originally involved death/executions for entertainment as well, like bullfighting | Aug 12 20:22 |
| schestowitz | whether these were separate from Olympia I don't know | Aug 12 20:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kragen/status/764187868491317248 | Aug 12 20:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kragen: @schestowitz Wouldn't be surprising. Probably easy to find out the ansewr | Aug 12 20:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/764192016729112576 | Aug 12 21:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: There is also #Hubzilla https://t.co/fVPc0pKwO5 Although I installed its previous incarnation(RedMatrix) to no avail https://t.co/u6Nvup34ZH | Aug 12 21:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> github.com | GitHub - redmatrix/hubzilla: build community websites that can interact with one another | Aug 12 21:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: If people fail to embrace decentralised communication platforms like #diaspora they'll let billionaires control communication. #joindiaspora | Aug 12 21:11 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FCBGoalDigger/status/764526315642851328 | Aug 13 19:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FCBGoalDigger: Wonder why so many United fans hate Guardiola.... Oh wait. https://t.co/SSRoBP5u5H | Aug 13 19:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FCBGoalDigger: Wonder why so many United fans hate Guardiola.... Oh wait. https://t.co/SSRoBP5u5H | Aug 13 19:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4x721r/microsoft_says_it_loves_linux_but_its_antilinux/ | Aug 13 21:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Says It Loves Linux, But Its Anti-Linux Patent Trolls Are Still Around and Active : linux | Aug 13 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | And then there's stuff like this: | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | http://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/ | Aug 13 21:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-betanews.com | Warning: Windows 10 Anniversary Update might delete your Linux partitions | Aug 13 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "Yes yet another ''accidental bug'', just like the ones who reenabled ads in the start menu and reset peoples privacy settings.' | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "M$ has been nuking dual-boot systems for 20+ years now. Their arrogance in assuming you must only run Windows is one of the things that made me dump them in the first place." | Aug 13 21:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Under the MBR-based boot system, there was no alternative to "nuking" an unrecognised boot sector. The Windows installer cannot possibly recognise every possible "alternative" boot sector and even if it could, there's no way for it to do anything useful with it. Linux installers generally detect standard Windows installations, but there are vastly fewer possible variations of those and if you have something other than the standard Windows | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | boot sector your options are "leave it there and make the user configure it manually" and "overwrite it". Windows is designed for a less technical audience so uses the only sensible default (overwrite; the user may well be running the Windows installer to repair it in the first place). | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Having said that, when I upgraded my GRUB-equipped Windows 7 system to Windows 10, it did not overwrite the boot sector by default, even the "startup repair" option didn't do it... | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Under UEFI, the situation is better. Different bootloaders can coexist and most firmware can be configured to allow the user to choose between them on boot. Even firmware that lacks this feature can have a third-party menu installed, although this may cause problems with secure boot. Still, it's still sensible for an incoming OS to set itself up to boot by default, since there's no way for it to know which other OSs are still present and | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | working. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | It appears that this is actually talking about deleting partitions full of user data NOT overwriting the mbr. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Nuking the Linux bootloader in mbr when installing Windows to the same drive is a time honored tradition and is hardly worth noticing. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | The solution has always been install windows first or fix grub from a live environment. In any case no damage is done just annoyance. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | If anyone at Microsoft cared off course leave the mbr alone could have been an option presented in case an unknown partition / known linux partition type exists. Saying this is unavoidable isn't correct. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Actually destroying a user's install and data is another thing entirely. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | It's unclear if this is so. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "If Microsoft cared they'd leave UEFI alone." | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Totally agree. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | One problem I have seen is that many people who dual boot Windows with Linux tend to think they are more tech savvy than they really are. If you only take your time and maybe do a little research before you throw in an install CD, you can easily avoid blasting away your boot sector. Even if you do muck it up, you can just throw in a Linux repair/install disk to fix it in a matter of seconds, no biggie. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | That said, I hardly ever dual boot my own machines. I usually set up my wife's as a dual boot system and help my CS classmates fix theirs because they apparently have never used a computer for anything other than coding in Sublime. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | I started using a foolproof method for this years ago. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | I put in another HD to dual boot, and when I want to switch, I move the cable. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Problem solved. | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, I've been using that solution on desktops for ages. Even when you just want to dual-boot different versions of Windows, it's good not to have another installation's drive connected during install since Windows makes an attempt (which I've never seen it get right) at making the driver letters consistent across installations and while it might be rarer now, there have always been applications that assume Windows is on "C:" without | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | checking...' | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "I've had XP on E: for a long time a few years back and I didn't notice a whole lot of issues" | Aug 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "It's a trick I learned back in the 90s when I used to dual-boot with NT 4.0 and 98. There were definitely badly written applications/installers around back then. It was always amusing when you found a "C:\WINDOWS" folder had been created by something on an NT-only box (NT used to install in "C:\WINNT" by default). Even if every program that ever made those sorts of bad assumptions has now been fixed (which I doubt...), it still feels "safer" | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | just to have Windows on the "C:" drive." | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "Apparently starting with Windows 10, it would recognize the two most commonly used MBR boot codes in Linux. (GRUB2 and Syslinux, as I recall, it still overwrites GRUB1 and LILO's different MBRs.)" | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | there's no way for it to do anything useful with it | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | just like there's no way for Linux installer to "do anything useful" when it sees a windows partition. oh wait... | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix | Aug 13 21:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Unix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Aug 13 21:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | the difference here is windows is windows. Debian linux, Arch linux, Enterprise linux, BSD, the list goes on, the family tree for 'nix is ... large that's a lot of extra stuff to add in for a relatively small user base. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | That said, it would have been nice to see a 'nix friendly windows installer earlier than win 10. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "I tried to install kali dual boot with windows 7 about a year or two ago and I got screwed, had to get help with a friend that knows linux to help me. He decided to give me win10 with a vm on a new hard drive that's how bad it was. Happily using Centos7 ever since. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Funny, when I switched to UEFI dual boot windows updates sometimes just overwrote the linux EFI code... And that's not on full OS install, that's on random updates with no warning. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Fuck microsoft. | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "Seriously. Windows 10 has been the worst thing to happen for computing in recent years. As soon as i'm able to find my discs to re-install adobe CS4, i'm re-installing Windows 7." | Aug 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | There's no bonus to Microsoft from nuking multi-OS machines, that's hugely likely to be accidental because it doesn't really accomplish anything for them, it just pisses customers off and might even open them to lawsuit for no real gain. | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Incidentally, as someone who has had to support end users, it's worth pointing out that this is just something people online have reported happening. As far as I know no reputable source has managed to replicate it and, frankly, I've had users that will swear up and down that they haven't done something I know full well they've done because I watched them do it. | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | There's no bonus to Microsoft from nuking multi-OS machines | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | It reinforces the narrative that Linux is a pain in the ass. | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "I agree. It's not about whose fault it is, it's about it being easier to use windows. Whose fault is it that adobe products don't work on linux? Does linux prevent adobe from writting comatible software? Yet it's "linux doesn't work with the software I want"." | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "which person that knows enough about computers to attempt dual boot would think this is a case of "linux is a problem"? Don't you think the average dual booter is intelligent enough to see the correlation between "windows installation" and "deleted my linux partition"?" | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "I don't think the idea is to convince the Linux users that Linux is the source of the difficulty -- it is just to push them to say "fuck it" and just use Windows full time to avoid the friction." | Aug 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "Yes. I did it in the past.' | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "Not really, it makes Windows responsible for destroying data which makes it yet another thing to add to the Win 8+ hate stack. Microsoft's last three operating systems are maligned enough (for a mixture of stupid and perfectly valid reasons) without them making it deliberately destructive.' | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | it makes Windows responsible for destroying data which makes it yet another thing to add to the Win 8+ hate stack. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | For people like us who know what they're doing maybe. For someone who is just starting out, you're wrong. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | accidental | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Well I guess they're just shitty programmers then. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "If I'm honest I suspect the most likely explanation is that the end users fucked up, as is the case with the vast overwhelming majority of home computer issues. After that I'd suggest Microsoft fucked up, with malice in remote last place." | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | I agree. Doubt it's Microsofts fault. I've installed Windows countless times without wiping the other partitions. Hanlons razor. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if those users are even using the advanced disk options in the installer to create their new Windows partitions, or just clicking through with default options. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | There's no advanced options in the W10 AU. It just kinda says "Fuck you" and reboots and does what it wants. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | EDIT: AU means anniversary update, I'm not talking about installing Windows 10, I'm talking about the forced update that has nuked partitions. It doesn't have any setup or advanced options. It forces a reboot, and then installs itself. | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "There absolutely is advanced options in W10. I've installed W10 hundreds of times and resized dozens of partitions with dual booting. You can 100% edit your partitions and do advanced options in the W10 setup." | Aug 13 21:43 |
| schestowitz | "You missed the part that said AU, as in, anniversary update, not the actual install. The update forces a reboot and doesn't allow any configuration. It nuked my Fedora24 install, and others have apparently experienced the same thing.' | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "AU is an update. I just installed it with a Mint install on one computer and an Ubuntu install on another. It didn't do anything to them. Also, what update nukes partitions? Or does anything with partitions?" | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it always nuked partitions, I said that it can. | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Also, what update nukes partitions? Or does anything with partitions? | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | The AU. There have been several reports of it nuking Win-Win and Win-Lin dualboots, but it seems pretty rare. | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "If its rare, then why is this even a thing here? It seems like people had their partitions set up incorrectly. Which means it's user error." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I very much disagree, my partitions were set up properly. | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a thing because it nuked partitions when it would have been extremely easy to allow users to just configure the update instead of just saying "Fuck it". | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "If it's rare, and it is, then why the implication at all here that it is some kind of nefarious act by Microsoft? If it was nefarious, it would clearly always happen. But since it isn't, this is all just a bunch of nonsense." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "I don't recall the exact source, but I think a ubuntu developer confrimed it." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Well, Ubuntu-like installers had the possibility of breaking your other partitions if you wanted to reinstall your existing Ubuntu partition from a disc. Choosing the option to reinstall it would select the whole disk for it to use. Is that an accidental bug or something more darker like your quotation marks may mean? Hmmm" | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Reinstall usually means overwrite. Sure, someone could've "forgotten" dual-boot users here, but at least it asked and you were aware that some data was deleted. If you'd simply apt-get update and your windows partition would be gone, we'd be on the same level." | Aug 13 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Hard to believe this would be intentional though. Is the reasoning "Maybe if we delete somebody's Linux partition, they just won't ever use Linux again!" Makes no sense. Much more likely that it was unintentional and the result of improper testing on devices with multiple partitions." | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Try installing pretty much any of the 'one of us' systems that uses GRUB2 and watch it automatically rape your MBR just as much. The only difference is that it makes some-what of an attempt to guess what other partitions are OS-es, but obviously it can't detect encrypted partitions. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | If you have a dual boot between Slackware and CRUX and you use syslinux as your boothloader and both are encrypted and you decided to install Mint on a free third partition it will replace syslinux with GRUB2 and override all your boot settings with no warning that it will do so in the installer. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Of course when 'one of us' does it, then people defend it and come with all sorts of excuses how there's another configuration file in /etc that gives you limited control and how you can disable it via hacks. If MS would be doing exactly the same thing people would be screaming high and low how ridiculous it was and not make excuses but the 'one of us' disease is super strong here and people are quick to pardon and make excuses when they | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | recognize something as 'one of us' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | The 'linux community' does not care about actions, it cares about actors. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Edit: So I looked into the scripts, here is the exact technical set of facts and conditions that have to be satisfied to the best of my knowledge reading the scripts: | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Linux Mint (and probably Ubuntu but I couldn't check) without warning in its installer destroys your existing MBR when you attempt to install it on a partition and makes its own booting logic, it tries to detect other operating systems and put them into the menuentries, but again, it obviously cannot detect everything like encrypted partitions. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | On a kernel update, if the executable update-grub is in the path and the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists it will run update-grub, again without warning or asking for confirmation, this executable will again overwrite /boot/grub/grub.cfg based on settings in /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub but is less flexible than manually writing a /boot/grub/grub.cfg, it will however place a notice over the file saying 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE', on a | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | kernel update it will not attempt to mess with your MBR itself, it just assumes the GRUB2 stage1 is there, if it is not there then well, no real harm done. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | How can this bite you? either if you do not use GRUB2 as your bootloader and have other systems, it will replace your loader with GRUB2 during Mint's install. If you do have GRUB2 however and plan to share a boot partition between different systems which is quite common then it will mercilessly butcher your global /boot/grub/grub.cfg with no warning and potentially downgrade your GRUB2 MBR or upgrade it with no warning again. If you do a | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | kernel update on Mint with a shared system boot partition that uses GRUB2 it will again override your configuration without any warning or confirmation. There is nothing wrong with it hypothetically doing this after a warning and asking for confirmation, the problem is, it doesn't ask for any of that for some reason. Some people raise the argument that the file says 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE', but it only says that if it actually came from Mint' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | s autogeneration, if you originally came from another system that does not automatically take control of this file and decide to have a shared boot partition, the file never said that and all your boot logic now belong to Mint. Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora do very similar things. | Aug 13 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | This is just a BIOS MBR issue, UEFI/GPT solved this. Newer grub runs fine alongside the windows bootloader. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | As well, wiping partitions and overwriting an MBR are not even comparable. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | They know how BIOS MBR works, they should ask and give you the option 'Do you want to have us install our bootloader, warning: doing so will destroy any boot settings you currently have in place, if you will not have us install our bootloader you must manually add LinuxMint to whatever other booting mechanism you use yourself to use it.', very simple in the end. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | But they just go ahead in the install, no warning, whatsoever. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | And deleting the partition was a bug. Bumblebee as a bug has removed /usr in the past, Steam has as per a bug once attempted to remove every file the user owns. This is embarassing and infuriating, but ultimately just a bug. With Mint, this is a feature. | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "Sure. I agree this is a Mint issue, just not a GRUB/Linux issue. I think I may have misread your comment as condemning the entire grub install process, my bad." | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "You know that you can tell the installer if you want/where to install the MBR?" | Aug 13 21:45 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4x721r/microsoft_says_it_loves_linux_but_its_antilinux/d6dbwqy | Aug 13 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | 'Just tried on Ubuntu and it does not ask when it is time to install grub. It just does it. Anyway, like I said in this comment, you just have to install it in the installation partition and it is as if you didn't install it." | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/mintinstall8-600x462.png | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Not as far as I know, you can say which device you want the MBR to be altered of but if you only have one drive you have to select that one. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | We're talking about this interface right? | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | We're talking about this interface right? | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Not as far as I know, you can say which device you want the MBR to be altered of but if you only have one drive you have to select that one. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | You're right that you have to select a device, but in that case, you just have to select the partition of your installation. https://i.imgur.com/C343V0D.png It's as if you did not install the MBR. I was doing that when I didn't wanted to boot Windows using Grub. I was adding an entry to the Windows boot loader by pointing it to my Linux partition. | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Ah, okay, I didn't know it did that when you did it like that, I guess there's a hack to avoid it from doing that. | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Still though, you have to admit, that is not exactly clear and relies on 'just knowing the trick' | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah but the difference is Microsoft have a history of dirty moves. It's 100% their own fault that nobody trusts them now." | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | "So have Canonical and Red Hat. The difference is that they are 'one of us' so their respective trademark law scare tactics and anticompetitive dependency shit gets easily forgiven or even defended." | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | if you're dual booting slack & CRUX why do you want mint? | Aug 13 21:46 |
| schestowitz | clearly your config and expectations are higher than the target user mint & *buntus are meant for. | Aug 13 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Why not? Mint is in my opinion one of the better Debian-based systems. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Still doesn't mean it shouldn't come with a warning. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Mint isn't Cinnamon you know. It's a very solid system due to its Debian toolset which is typically very well done and configurable. They also tend to keep politics out of it and just focus on providing a good system which is what I like. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The 'security'concerns are nonsense, it relies on using their 'update manager', I used Mint for 3 years not even knowing that thing existed. I just used apt-get like everyone else. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | "don't get me wrong, I like mint too (for a debian derivative) but if you're going to be an edge case then you need to realize the potential for unanticipated issues and maybe even use a spare system or even a virtual machine to evaluate compatibility and how well they all play nice together.' | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | You're an edge case in general if you have any 'Linux partition' on your computer so I don't see how that argument holds in the context of this discussion. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I really wish people didn't design their software around the principle of 'Not enough people would ever do this', especially when the designers run a fairly obscure kernel for desktop operating systems to begin with. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | especially when the statement can be phrased as 'We expect our users to not be technically literate and assume no one would ever do something requiring a modicum of technical competence'. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | um ... the whole point of Mint, *buntu & all the other "beginner distros" is to easily get Linux onto PCs for people who have never used Linux before. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | For a savvy slack & CRUX user I would have thought you understood this. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | That's also the point of Windows, so why don't they get this excuse when they overwrite your MBR on installs? | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The answer again seems to very much be found in 'one of us' or not. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Saying 'But we are for beginners, therefore we have an excuse to rape your system without warning' is really a poor excuse in my opinion. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't make excuses for windows, and generally it's already installed. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | It's also pretty well known that reinstalling windows generally wipes grub. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Have you filed upstream requests with grub maintainers? | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | No, you misunderstand, my point is that people make excuses for Mint but lambast Windows here for doing a similar thing because Windows is not 'one of us' | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | And this has nothing to do with GRUB2, GRUB2 does what you tell it to, if you tell it to replace your existing MBR with itself it will do so, if you don't tell it to do that it will not. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The problem is that Mint as part of its installer tells grub to do that with no real warning to the user, someone informed me of a trick though which can be used to stop it from replacing your MBR which isn't really documented in the installer where you in the installer mark the MBR to be installed on something like a swap partition in which case it'll just silently fail. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The problem is that Mint as part of its installer tells grub to do that with no real warning to the user, someone informed me of a trick though which can be used to stop it from replacing your MBR which isn't really documented in the installer where you in the installer mark the MBR to be installed on something like a swap partition in which case it'll just silently fail. | Aug 13 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Have you informed Clem then? | Aug 13 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | I use whatever distro has the best maintained package for what I'm trying to do on that machine. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | If gentoo has the best packages in the repo and works on the hardware, I use gentoo, if it's arch I use arch. I'll install centos, Ubuntu, debian, mint, I don't care. I don't care which I use. That's probably the point most people reach eventually. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | this makes my eyes bleed, so kudos on name dropping various distros. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | now to this..... | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I use whatever distro has the best maintained package for what I'm trying to do on that machine. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | do you even linux brah? all of those distros should work with pretty much any hardware, so whatever point you're trying to make about package management is not coming through because they are all "maintained" | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | However, when it comes to a specific package, gentoo & arch are going to have the most current, or "bleeding edge" version while Ubuntu & Mint are going to be not-as-bleeding-edge-but-probably-more-recent than what you'd find in Centos or Debian. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | generally folks pick a distro based on purpose not because of package. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | n.b. - I know I'm using broad strokes here because I could easily use a package from Debian-Testing if I wanted to with my vanilla debian install. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | edit: o | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | How many dedicated function servers you ever needed to build to manage say phone systems etc. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I specifically use the distro with the best maintained packages for the function when I build a linux box that isn't a general use machine, and the distro to me does not matter. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | If vicidial is going to run the best on opensuse right now, ill use that, we also built gentoo and ubuntu installs of the same software on similar hardware, when the opensuse failed to work right because of a conflict of some sort, it is much easier to install the one that works than spend time trying to figure out what someone else did to fix it when you're in a business environment working on a schedule, not a hobbyist who wants to fanboy | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | about a distro he likes. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | A lot of times we NEVER ran an update again because the machine was immediately forked in such a way that it was likely to break things if we updated it, and we secured the systems by putting them inside very locked down networks rather than worrying about the individual machine, we just blacklisted every IP in the world (deny all) and only opened the ones we needed. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Sorry about the blood tears your emotions had to spit up. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | vicidial | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | now we're getting to the meat and potatoes of the issue, mainly integrating a 3rd party software suite with any given distro - information that your previous post was lacking. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | and you're right, if development cycles don't necessarily overlap, then the potential for breakage is huge and the incentive to not update is certainly there. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Although it does seem to me sorting out why something breaks would be better than just throwing random distros at the issue in hopes of it working. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | edit: spell | Aug 13 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, sometimes that had to be solved, but usually we duplicated equipment we knew worked. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Yeah my personal opinion is based on "I need this thing to work NOW and not work on it to find out why the things don't" and from that perspective, you realise it doesn't matter what the fuck the OS is, etc, you just need the software to run, when you're trying to live integrate websites with vicidial with lead companies and get them all in 1 db, then call them with agents, you could give a fuck what it ran. I was usually integrating sugarcrm | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | or something else with multiple websites with multiple lead companies, parsing/pushing to a db then running it into a queue to be dialed. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I'd run templeOS if it managed those things. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | At some point if you're having to do a lot fast with equipment with limited funds it turns into what can I make work the fastest and cheapest. The best is no longer a concern. My UI looked like shit and people made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling insurance with it. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | TBH to this day I've yet to see a dialer company design a superior single user dialer or even anything comparable that you can rent now. I was managing to make 700-900 dials with 1 person in a 6 hour shift by scaling the line use based on how many dials were attempted and I've never seen anyone else do anything like it. | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "That's why I don't dual-boot, I just have a totally separate hard drive dedicated to Linux. It's not that much of a hassle to change the boot sequence in BIOS when I wanna use Linux." | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "Which more likely is a bug as I did the upgrade and both GRUB2 and Ubuntu partitions are working fine.' | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | https://rol.im/securegoldenkeyboot/ | Aug 13 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "maybe their effort to get rid of the vulnerability breaking secureboot.' | Aug 13 21:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-rol.im | Secure Golden Key Boot: (MS16-094 / CVE-2016-3287, and MS16-100 / CVE-2016-3320) | Aug 13 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Why do you need a linux partition when you have Bash on Ubuntu on Windows | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | /s | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "To be fair, it did not ony kill partitions with, but everything shch was just touched by a linux-system. Like my games-partition formated with ntfs. But I see the ecucational advange here, because now I have more time again for my debian-workstation.' | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "I didn't see this. What I saw was a black desktop after I installed the Windows 10 anniversary update. Given that MS took out "f8 for advanced boot options" I didn't feel like fighting with it or trolling the Internet for a fix. That was all the convincing I needed to install Windows 7. Throughout this adventure, no harm came to the Linux partition, but the Grub boot loader did of course get nuked, as usual." | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | What the actual fuck? | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Is this real? They really mean deleting partitions not just GRUB, right? | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | If so, #fuckmicrosoft. | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "Most likely an accidental bug. I just upgrade to last Windows version. Grub is fine, Ubuntu is fine (well, except that I have to reinstall it after messing with ubuntu-mate metapackage)" | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "I just update to machines both with dual boot ( one win10/Ubuntu the other win10/Debian) and grub and both OSes are fine." | Aug 13 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "They love linux the same way intel loves amd. Don't fall for all the shilling people." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Do people even know what "shilling" is anymore? This word is thrown around reddit like "troll" used to be.' | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "About 12 pence?" | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "It used to be 12d, but now it's just 5p." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Chilling..." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "its getting cold in here.." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Shilling" | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "That's government money for you." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Nah, everyone who doesn't agree is a "shill" now. Doesn't even matter if what you say is 100% factual. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | This is what these people sound like to me "You don't like what I like? Yeah you must be a "shill", because I'm the smartest guy in the room.". Chances are they aren't even one of the smartest people in the building, never mind the fucking room. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Chances are they aren't even one of the smartest people in the building, never mind the fucking room. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Something about this line really bothers me, but I'm not smart enough to properly articulate why. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "Because its easier to be the smartest the smaller the subset you are compared to? Like, I'm the smartest guy in the room right now because I'm here by myself." | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | The "never mind" is referring to something contained within, whereas the expected usage is opposite that | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | One of the ____ people in the $smaller_place never mind the $bigger_place | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | See the inversion? Basically, in set theory, the sets are referred to the wrong way around. | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Something about this line really bothers me, but I'm not smart enough to properly articulate why. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Because I completely fucked that line up lol. It made sense when I was writing it, but in retrospect it's logically inconsistent. So I'll try to explain what I was thinking when I wrote it. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "It's easy to be the biggest fish in a pond. Swim out to the ocean and see how big you are when a Great White is staring you in the face." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Nah, everyone who doesn't agree is a "shill" now. Doesn't even matter if what you say is 100% factual. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | So true. When someone was shitting on green man gaming I asked them to back up their claims and provided evidence they didn't do anything wrong, they seriously accused me of being an employee of theirs even after I assured them, in writing I wasn't LOL. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "He might be one of the smartest people in the neighborhood though." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "I got called a shill for posting a crystal pepsi logo in /r/vaporwaveaesthetics.' | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, that's weird. You're only a shill if you're compensated somehow. Otherwise, just a fan." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "My point was that that specific drink is a vapor wave meme." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | a shill or a concern troll | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | nowadays is so easy to set up an unburstable bubble | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | You said something anti-Trump or pro-Hillary? You must be one of those correct-the-record shills! | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | You're a Hillary supporter, therefore everything you say can be dismissed as bias! | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "Well, it doesn't help that Correct the Record actually does pay shills." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "As apposed to not paying shills?" | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "Well, I guess you could shill for something without being paid. I used to be a big Google fan and would vouch for them online... for free." | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | But then you're just a fan, rabid perhaps, biased maybe, but no more. You must be compensated somehow to be a "shill", by definition. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | The word is most definitely being used incorrectly. | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "| | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | It's the next level of using your "useful idiots", making them human shields then blaming the other guy. Cant attack the actual shills for the confused idiots in the way. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | They learned from fighting terrorism hiding behind civilians is the easiest way to lay blame on the other guy. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | This is classic "big lie" propaganda that the Nazis wrote so much about. You don't hide, you deny, like a child would. Playing stupid is super effective. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "So what you're saying is, anyone who says something pro-Hillary is either a shill or a "useful idiot" that the shills use as a shield?" | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | The Hillary campaign made that true when they paid millions of dollars for shills. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Personally I would have been pissed and walk away from the whole mess at that point no matter how much I supported her. In fact I did, I no longer support Sanders specifically for endorsing a propagandist. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | I don't play that shit. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "goes to show you how many freaking shills are around here..." | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "Nice hat | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "Techright again? Ehhhh" | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Not to say that the Microsoft patent thing isn't real (it is), but Techrights was posting FUD before. No matter the message or source--kernel of truth or pure fabrication--FUD is bad. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Don't anybody give into or trust FUD--or anybody who tried to FUD you. | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | BS FUD from them | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | accusing the messenger | Aug 13 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Here come the Microsofters now | Aug 13 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I hate patent trolls as much as the next guy, they are ruining innovation in America, but IV is a 'Microsoft' company in the same way that Nest is an Apple company. As in, not at all, simply founded by an ex-employee. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | And the 'Microsoft-connected' Rockstar Consortium, that this article calls a patent troll as well, is actually a patent licensing organization with a lot of big company members including Sony, Apple, Ericsson, and Blackberry. I understand Wired magazine, in their infinite wisdom, called them a patent troll, but a lot of those patents are legitimate patents in use by the members. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | This article is clearly biased. Microsoft has in recent years been in the Top 10 Linux kernel contributors. And before you write that off as being in their own interest, how many companies on the top 10 list do you think contribute huge amounts of time and code just for shits and giggles? Everyone does it for their own interests. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I love Linux. Been using it since the late 90's. I'm writing this from Linux. But bitching about Microsoft for years and then when they start to come around, continue going after them, is just dumb. It's almost like the Linux community is more interested in being angry about the things MS does't do than the things it does. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Also, for all of you that said yu would never touch Mono with a 10-ft pole because Microsoft would sue them any day, are you ready yet to admit you were wrong or are you still waiting with your tin-foil hat on? | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft could GPLv3 100% of their code and the vast majority of the FOSS community would still scream about how everyone needs to avoid them.' | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | This article is clearly biased. Microsoft has in recent years been in the Top 10 Linux kernel contributors. And before you write that off as being in their own interest, how many companies on the top 10 list do you think contribute huge amounts of time and code just for shits and giggles? | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was briefly a Top 10 contributor during the time period when they submitted Hyper-V (Microsoft's proprietary hypervisor) drivers for the Linux kernel so that Linux could run in Azure so that Azure could get some customer acceptance among big enterprises who need to run a lot of Linux. | Aug 13 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I am pretty sure there must be a well hidden research lab at Microsoft HQ with a prototype Windows OS using a Linux kernel. | Aug 13 21:53 |
| schestowitz | If someday Windows does what Apple (did yes yes I know it's not Linux) I will not be surprised. And yes Apple also changed from PowerPC to Intel CPUs too a double whammy. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Then again I'm I guess you'd say OS agnostic I use all three some I prefer more for some things over others. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "If you check out the OSX presentation from back in 1999-2000-something, Steve jobs even used the term "Linux-like" as a selling point." | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | I wasn't aware of that, Linux would have been about five or so years old at the time. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Darwin you often read or hear is said to be Unix-like bordering on BSD-like so I guess at that time Linux-like was easier to explain to the average Joe than the even more obscure Unix or BSD. | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | Well, at the time Unix was very well known from the server buisness such as Suns-Solaris, but Linux (made and grown to be Unix-like) was growing fast. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | OSX (Now MacOS) is UNIX. OSX came from NeXTSTEP, that originally built on 4.3BSD Tahoe. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "Darwin (OS X) was NeXTStep BSD, but rebased on a more-recent version of FreeBSD.' | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | I am pretty sure there must be a well hidden research lab at Microsoft HQ with a prototype Windows OS using a Linux kernel. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft as an OS designer/distributor started entirely because of Unix. Meet Xenix! | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix | Aug 13 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Xenix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Aug 13 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | MS-DOS is something of a derivative of Xenix, in a strange roundabout way. The MS-DOS subsystem that still hangs around in Windows 10 today is basically a weird chimera of Xenix, OS/2, and Windows 3.1/9X. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | While technically SONIC is a Microsoft-branded and licensed Linux variant, based on Ubuntu, there are definitely some people somewhere on the Redmond campus keeping tabs on a Linux-Windows project. They always have to be ready to make the switch because Linux has taken over just about every market its reached. | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | MS-DOS is something of a derivative of Xenix, in a strange roundabout way. The MS-DOS subsystem that still hangs around in Windows 10 today is basically a weird chimera of Xenix, OS/2, and Windows 3.1/9X. | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I suppose pipes and device files are from Unix, not DEC/DCL. | Aug 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | "With Mint, this is just a bug." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "Well, you can't say things like this to their fanatics, they will burn you at the stake." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "It's not just the patents. Aside cloud platform, they don't give a shit about other OS." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry, but with VS Code, MS Office for Android, Skype Alpha for Linux, open sourced .NET framework and cooperation with the Mono project... Saying that they completely don't give a shit about other OSs is just plain wrong." | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | ...open sourced .NET framework... | Aug 13 21:54 |
| schestowitz | And they did not port it to any other platform. Just saying. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | ...and cooperation with the Mono project... | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They did a pretty neat drive-by kill on the Java ecosystem, though. In mid '15 RoboVM stopped being open source (it allows you to run Java apps on iOS). A few months later RoboVM was bought by Xamarin. At the end of '15 Microsoft bought Xamarin and in spring '16 RoboVM was axed (after there was no news about it since being bought by Xamarin). | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Saying that they completely don't give a shit about other OSs is just plain wrong. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Of course they care about other OS'! They want to get them out of the picture as fast as possible...or at least be the one to sell it to us (see Linux on Azure). | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | ""On the bright side, it is your cake day!" | Aug 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | techrights | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | really ? this website is an insult to mankind. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_extinguish' | Aug 13 21:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pla3a ] | Aug 13 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | That tactic might work with MS Office for Android, but it fails badly with every other example I posted. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | What are they going to do, develop some super special IDE on top of VS Code? Bullshit. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Skype is (unfortunately) already a standard. Them making it compatible with Linux is just their pure will. Linux users could've used the older version just fine. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They've fucking open sourced .NET framework. How are they going to lock it up? | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Triple E is something that happened twenty years ago. It's not relevant to what Microsoft is doing now in any single way. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | "I'm convinced that most of the people who post that EEE Wiki link don't actually understand what the tactic is and how it would be used." | Aug 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | Every one of those moves is forced: | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | VS Code and open sourcing dotnet. There's been an exodus of developers off the windows platform. Most backend and web developes now code either on mac or on linux. Which means they do not use MS dev products and platforms. This btw is the reason they added ubuntu terminal to windows. It is to persuade those developers to come back and develop on windows even if they deploy on linux. That's why they try to infiltrate linux ecosystem with | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | their platform (dotnet) and their tools (VS Code). Once they get a sizable ground, they'll start adding features into their products that make it easier to use their platform, their libraries locking unsuspecting developers. It is an old and quite effective tactic they've used in the past many times. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Skype. Skype was working on linux BEFORE thy bought it. They did not make it "compatible" with linux. And they update it just enough so it won't die. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | MS Office for android is a fucking CLOUD product. They do not support linux, they expand their market for ther cloud product. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Porting Sql server to linux is a forced move, because Enterprise customers do not trust windows platform with their data (too insecure, too damaged reputation) Which leaves Oracle as the only game in town (not counting open source dbs). Since none of them is coming back to windows no matter how hard MS tries, they have no choice but to go where the customers are: to offer them their db on a platform that customers are running. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Make no mistake. Microsoft does not love anything except their own profits. They work with linux as little as it is necessary. And have no plans or intentions on promoting linux AT ALL. | Aug 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | Make no mistake. Microsoft does not love anything except their own profits. They work with linux just as much as it is nesessary. And have no plans or intentions on promoting linux AT ALL. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | You mean like almost all companies on the planet? | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I think many commenters are failing to see a problem with this stance. | Aug 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | No, the comment is not about the corporation Microsoft. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | The comment is about people who think there's a plan, a goal, an intention from Microsofts side to promote, to push and to collaborate on linux. | Aug 13 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I'm merely responding to them that there's no plan, no goal and no intention from Microsofts side to promote, to push and to collaborate on linux. | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | And I'm saying that being motivated by profits and caring about Linux only to the extent that it raises their profits does not mean they do not want or intend to push, promote and collaborate on Linux. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | The two are not mutually exclusive. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel is one of the largest contributors to the kernel. Are you saying that they are any different from MS in this regard? They do it out of anything other than a desire to make Intel products more profitable? | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | The two are not mutually exclusive. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | They are. Promoting linux hurts their core business. They flagship OS is a direct competitor both on client and server side. And so is their flagship DB, their flagship development platform, their office platform, even their email platform. They are ALL direct competitors either to linux itself or to major linux software. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel is one of the largest contributors to the kernel. Are you saying that they are any different from MS in this regard? | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Of course they are different. They do not have a competing product. They have no incentive to fight linux. In fact it is beneficial for them to support linux (but only x86 and x_64 branches), because linux is a major serverside platform. And supporting it gives them upper hand against IBM (Power chip) and helps fight ARM chip producers. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel is a natural ally of linux. Microsoft is a natural enemy. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Nothing personal, just good business. | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | And have no plans or intentions on promoting linux AT ALL. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I never claimed that. What I claimed is that a) they're not neglecting other operating systems and b) that they are not doing EEE again. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't care what their reasons are, but claiming that they're doing any of those two things is just blatantly wrong. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | We've gotta give them credit where credit is due, and the fact is that they're contributing to the Linux kernel, developing things on top of the Linux kernel, and embracing parts of "Linux" (more like Linux-based tools) into their own core product, even if it is for their own profit. EEE is not the reason why they're doing this, and that's why I intervened. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | "So, the theory that their strategy is (or will eventually be) "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" is "blatantly wrong" but they are "embracing parts of Linux"..." | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | This just proves that you have no idea what EEE represents or how it operated 20 years ago. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Let me walk you through how it worked 20 years ago: | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Here, they're not making a compatible product, they're porting the product without making any changes to the product. Embrace in the EEE context means developing a competing product. Embrace in what I wrote means porting the product. Not the same thing. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the 'simple' standard. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Here, they're not legally allowed to change a single line in bash without making those changes public. Otherwise, that would be a clear violation of GPL and you can bet your ass that the FSF is going to sue them if they try. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | It's meaningless to talk about this part because they are not allowed to tweak GPL-licensed product without making those changes public. | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | I agree that they're embracing Linux in a different way as they embraced, say, HTML in the 90s. I thought it was obvious that they're not using the exact same techniques as they did ages ago. I brought that up because MS is known for sabotaging upcoming trends from the inside. First they become part of the trend, then they try to steer it in a direction that profits them. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Why do you think they are showing interest in Linux? Because "MS loves Linux"? | Aug 13 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Porting their products to linux in this case falls under "or implementing a public standard." Because basically at this point linux IS a defacto standard server side platform. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Once they have a foothold of users using their products (dotnet, VS Code, Sql Server) on linux. the next step is to start adding features those users want, but only on windows versions of those products thus forcing them to migrate (if they want to use those features). Obviously at this point migrating to alternative product will be cost prohibitive to most corporations. Easier to migrate to the same product but on windows. | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:56 |
| schestowitz | "It's a shame you are being downvoted. Sadly /r/linux has a lot of shills lately ever since Windows 10 started being a thing." | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "Skype could stop being a standard real quick if it wasn't cross platform. Especially if they dropped Mac support (not having Linux support seems to be easier to get away with). I know for sure we'd stop using it at my job if it was Windows only. Just look at Facetime. It looks pretty nice, but I've never used it despite using a (dual boot) Mac and iPhone, because it's basically useless without support for non Apple devices." | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "On the bright side, it is your cake day!" | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Microsoft staff there tooo]] | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | techrights | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | really ? this website is an insult to mankind. | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | "At least it's not Phoronix!" | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: again attacks on Michael as well | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Ofcourse Microsoft isn't going to fully love Linux and have patents. This shit goes on with Apple vs Samsung, Oracle vs Android, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs AMD and so on. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a company out to make money, it's nice they are opening up a little more than a few years ago and contributing more/realising that Linux does infact have a majority market share in the server market and so on but any fool that needs to read an article about Anti-Linux practises by Microsoft are just kidding themselves. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | TL;DR of article: Microsoft does what other companies do, we don't like it but that's just how fucked up the patent industry is unfortunately. | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | So what is your point? That we should stop criticizing them because what they do is common? That's not how morals work. | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | If they do wrong, they are bad. And it's good to continue to point that out. | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | TechRights have been saying this for some time: | Aug 13 21:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/category/microsoft/ | Aug 13 21:57 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/pla3n ] | Aug 13 21:57 | |
| schestowitz | "Because with all the false-flagging "Microsoft loves linux and open source" shilling and propaganda going on, it is important for people to keep a skeptical mind." | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "Why is it so important for you to point out how crappy Microsoft is?" | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "Something something history something doomed to repeat it something won't get fooled again." | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "muh 1998 halloweenie documents!" | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | People often forget how they operate as a company. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | You should look up "embrace, extend, extinguish". As an unofficial policy employed within the Redmond campus, it's brought much grief to the Linux community in the past as well as several prominent companies whose business is either providing services or selling proprietary, closed-source software. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish | Aug 13 21:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n2o73 ] | Aug 13 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | Some people, myself included, are still wary of things that pop out from the woodwork, like the Edge browser. It's the only one fully compatible with HTML5 in every way, shape, and form thinkable, and supports almost every kind of DRM policy on the web you can ask for. It's also the only browser on Windows that runs Netflix in 1080p, aside from IE11. If Edge ever assumes dominance on the web, its guaranteed Microsoft will try to find ways to | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | break existing standards to benefit themselves once more. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Also, this applies to the Nokia deal in general . And it will apply to Cyanogen OS in time. | Aug 13 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | IE11 on Windows 10 identifies itself as "Edge Browser" in the User Agent String. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I believe that, in Windows 10 only, IE11 and Edge use the same rendering engine (which was not backported to Windows 7's version of IE11). | Aug 13 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | IIRC, the rendering engine is actually a fork now. It's still based on Trident, but more resembles webkit in how sites interface with it. Trident in IE11 lives on, but it won't see any improvements now that Edge is out. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm surprised it identifies itself as Edge though! I wonder what specific things a site loads for Edge and IE11 that it doesn't do for other browsers. | Aug 13 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Which, sadly, also means that Microsoft's only means of allowing users to use IE11 for web apps will eventually fall by the wayside as Chrome takes over that spot. IE11 is a wonderful tool for running web apps on Windows 7 and 8.1, but all of its functionality is broken in Windows 10. | Aug 13 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | "It doesn't. IE 11 on windows 10 still uses trident, while edge uses a trident fork called edgehtml." | Aug 13 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | If Edge ever assumes dominance on the web, its guaranteed Microsoft will try to find ways to break existing standards to benefit themselves once more. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | How is this guaranteed? Because they did it in the 90's? People also said they were guaranteed to sue Mono. They never did. | Aug 13 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | DRM for video streaming is my bet. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Of course, services like Netflix can be accessed by a multitude of devices so it's not like people are locked in, but Edge does support more DRM schemes and features than its two biggest rivals; Chrome and Firefox. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Chrome might have significant influence over the web and its standards, but the developers have noted before that they're not interested in adhering to all of Netflix's requirements. Firefox doesn't want to do it because supporting Netflix's DRM would mean that it goes against its "principles" of keeping the web free and open (not that it matters much because money talks louder to them these days). | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Supporting all the DRM policies required for 1080p playback would legitimise Netflix's position on DRM and give other streaming services a reason to jump on the bandwagon for more restrictive DRM schemes. Apple doesn't have these scruples, and so Safari on OS X and MacOS Sierra do this just fine. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Edge is already doing the kinds of things we expected from Microsoft in the early IE days. For one, it's much more frugal when it comes to battery life on the browsers, probably because other browsers can't use the same hooks in the OS like Edge can. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Also, if you're the Chromium or Firefox devs, and are interested in porting those browsers as universal apps for the Windows Store, you have to abandon your engine and use EdgeHTML instead. That's partly how webkit became so popular - it was the only browser rendering engine available on iPhone. All the web apps published to the UWA platform? They run on EdgeHTML. The Netflix app? EdgeHTML powered. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | There's also this: | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | In a blog post, Microsoft claimed Microsoft Edge was built to take advantage of platform features in Windows 10, including the PlayReady Content Protection and the media engine’s Protected Media Path. The company said it is working with the Open Media Alliance to develop next-generation media formats, codecs, and other technologies for UltraHD video, and with chipset companies to develop Enhanced Content Protection that moves the | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | protected media path into peripheral hardware for an even higher level of security, and one that could be used to protect 4K media. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3095259/browsers/confirmed-only-microsoft-edge-will-play-netflix-content-at-1080p-on-your-pc.html | Aug 13 21:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.pcworld.com | Confirmed: Only Microsoft Edge will play Netflix content at 1080p on your PC | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pla3y ] | Aug 13 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | Those peripheral devices mentioned are HCDP 2.2 compliant monitors and audio peripherals, and playing UHD 4K content will soon require everyone to upgrade their displays or televisions and possibly home theatre systems as well. Do you want UHD 4K Stranger Things Season 2? Make sure you only have a single HDCP 2.2 monitor connected to your desktop with a modern GPU in 2017 - having any other one connected will throw up a content protection | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | error. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Not to mention that laptops with 4K displays in the market today are not HCDP 2.2 compatible. Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldi, and all the other browsers out there also can't play back HDCP 2.2 content - only Edge and IE11 can do it at this point. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Netflix and Microsoft will be the drivers of this change on the PC, and neither one has ever been interested in keeping the web, or their streaming services, open and accessible. The Xbox One S also supports it, as will the updated PS4 and NEO. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Also, have a look at this thread. It's been growing for three years now and it shows no signs of stopping: | Aug 13 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "' | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Note also that lack of Netflix DRM is one of the biggest complaints about Valve's Steamboxes/SteamOS, a competitor to Xbox and Playstation. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/microsoft-edge-scooby-doo-alright-edge-lets-see-who-you-really-are-internet-explorer.jpg | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "surprise!" | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "This, and the Rick and Morty gif, are making my week (which is otherwise bleak)." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "The only people who are genuinely shocked by anything Microsoft does are people who don't have to deal with other software vendors. Hell compared to some of the vendors in the network infrastructure space Microsoft are hilariously cuddly. | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "To make matters worse, some of their rivals in the server and data center markets are just as crazy as them, if not more." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "Case in point, VMware..." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "Those competitors don't have Microsoft's leverage. And Microsoft has been forced to be more cuddly (by releasing many protocol and file-format specifications) in response to EU and American government lawsuits." | Aug 13 21:59 |
| schestowitz | "Every year this headline. We know goddamit." | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | "As much as I hate Microsoft, I don't see a single "this happened to me" post here. And this is Reddit. Not believable yet." | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Can someone tell that idiot /u/NickelBack_Lover_69 to stop linking to techrights? Come on, it's full of shit." | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://np.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45p3ml/microsoft_continues_to_use_software_patents_to/czzku4b https://np.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45p3ml/microsoft_continues_to_use_software_patents_to/czzi36l | Aug 13 22:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-np.reddit.com | Lancair comments on Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/pla48 ] | Aug 13 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Here are my favorite comments of his: | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Isn't free software just great? We're talking about state of the art high quality here, programmed by some bored nerds in their mothers' basements. | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4waczj/psa_if_you_are_still_using_libreoffice_3x_do_not/d663bfv | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Except Windows 7 isn't garbage, while linux is. I bet linux doesn't even have the drivers for that laptop. | Aug 13 22:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-np.reddit.com | hitsujiTMO comments on Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/pla49 ] | Aug 13 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/4wtuh9/new_windows_10_laptop_what_to_install_first/d6a6wdn | Aug 13 22:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | NickelBack_Lover_69 comments on PSA: If you are still using LibreOffice 3.x, do not save in .docx, you can lose your work! Use .odt or .doc instead [ http://ur1.ca/pla4a ] | Aug 13 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | "From what I can tell he is a shitposter/troll (It's pretty obvious with the name)" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "It takes time to completely change the culture of a Monolith like Microsoft. We're trying..." | Aug 13 22:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | NickelBack_Lover_69 comments on New Windows 10 Laptop. What to install first? [ http://ur1.ca/pla4b ] | Aug 13 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Try harder | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | '" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | This is one of those things that is technically true, but neglects the bigger picture: | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Microsoft may well love Linux. But they love Linux on their terms, which don't always mesh well with F/OSS purists: | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | A key part of those terms is that Linux must not be a first-class citizen in any area where it might threaten Microsoft's business model. Hence Samba 4, despite over a decade of development and nominally being supported by Microsoft, is a great file server and a lousy domain controller. And I bet you anything you like that despite Microsoft porting SQL Server to Linux, only the core engine ever gets ported, and even then it'll be a second- | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | class citizen compared to SQL Server on Windows. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "They port the SQL server to Linux to attack Oracle, not to support Linux. They do it because customers want to run their DB on Linux, and want an alternative to Oracle. What would Microsoft gain by releasing a sub-par product?" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | And I bet you anything you like that despite Microsoft porting SQL Server to Linux, only the core engine ever gets ported, and even then it'll be a second-class citizen compared to SQL Server on Windows. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | You might be right. They might not port SSRS reporting, forcing users of Microsoft's BI and SQL Server on Linux to also have Windows Servers. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | That's exactly what I predict. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | In fact, this makes a lot of sense. SSRS usually uses AD for authentication/authorisation. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | MS can't rely on there being a correctly-configured reliable AD stack on a Linux box; they'd either need to reinvent a lot of wheels, forego AD authentication on the Linux version or simply not bother porting it in the first place. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure RedHat would get sssd configured for them. Especially if Microsoft chose to support SQL Server only on RHEL. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise Microsoft could lean on one of the reliable ISVs under its control, like Powerbroker/Likewise or Centrify. | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "Better to just invest in PostgreSQL and Pentaho for OLAP, I suspect.' | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "Rule number 1. Never trust corporate companies." | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "Lawyers trying to stay employed" | Aug 13 22:01 |
| schestowitz | "|Are you implying that what a company says in its marketing material could be different from how it actually operates? I don't believe you." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | I suspect with the Microsoft layoffs pending. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | This department must to appear useful. Hail jobs. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Like the priest telling the little boy he loves him. No rational adult believes that." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft and their trashcan products and user experience can go fuck themselves." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. It's how MS has always operated.' | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, extend, extinguish. It's never going to change, regardless of what they tell you." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "Love it, by dominate it. I guess Mickeysoft is a dog-person." | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | My favourite part is how people continue to act like MS are the only bags who are doing this. Meanwhile Canonical trademark-law-trolls people into being afraid of forking by saying you have to remove every reference to their Ubuntu trademark in the source code if you fork, even in variable names and API strings and symbols, which is of very dubious legality if they can even require it, but in the end, it does its job and scares people away | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | from forking1. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Canonical will also say they 'love Linux'. Do I need to get started on the crap Valve is pulling? | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | MS. Valve, Canonical, Red Hat, Google, it's all the same, they're companies, they need to turn a profit at the end of the day, and part of that is p.r. bullshit. The only difference is that people actually believe Valve, Canonical and Red Hat for some reason when they have a carefully crafted marketing team that makes them out to be 'your friend'. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | 1: This is also a problem with how broken common civil law works in that you quite often don't know if something is illegal until you try it and why I like the theoretical Roman civil law more where everything is legal unless the law explicitly makes it illegal and any ambiguity is interpreted strictly against the drafter which in the case of the actual law is the state. In the US and the UK you have these ridiculous 'test cases' where people | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | purposefully skirt the edge to see if it's illegal, if it turns out to be illegal because a judge in that case decided so, well, then you have to pay the price, which is ridiculous. And Canonical takes full advantage of this broken system to scare people into not forking who don't and can't know their rights until they try to venture into the grey area. And if you lose, well then you lose hard so people are afraid to take the risk even though | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | it might be the case that a judge rules in their favour and Canonical's trademark policies are ruled unenforceable. | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 13 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "So how does Mint get away with it? When I update, more than half the packages have "ubuntu" in the version number." | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | They ignore it because they know it's just a scare tactic? | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | More info: | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/controversy-behind-canonicals-intellectual-property-policy | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/35969.html | Aug 13 22:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxjournal.com | The Controversy Behind Canonical's Intellectual Property Policy | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/pla4j ] | Aug 13 22:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Canonical's Ubuntu IP policy is garbage | Aug 13 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | It is just a scare tactic just as patent trolling, they know it won't hold any legal water but they try to scare people into not doing stuff, as I said, because if you loose in court the costs are huge. | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/ | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Because the Mint developers don't care about licenses and copyrights. | Aug 13 22:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lwn.net | Linux Mint downloads (briefly) compromised [LWN.net] | Aug 13 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Yes this is very true too. You should visit /r/shills and /r/hailcorporate | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | '"Here we go, the two biggest lunatics on /r/linux meet each other." | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "What the fuck is your problem with me? Stop following me in every post. Do I need to report you to the reddit administrators for harrassment? | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | '"This is my first interaction with you, are you mental?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry, I had you confused with someone else. The linux community is becoming increasingly hostile lately." | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "You do realize you are very hostile as well with your anti-systemd posts and stuff?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Lol have you seen how hostile the systemd developers are?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "How does that justify your behaviour in any way?" | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | "Everyone's entitled to their opinion.' | Aug 13 22:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | And they're also entitled to the blowback they get from expressing their opinion. | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | It's just funny to see OP complain about a hostile community while OP simultaneously calls other people shills for having an opinion that OP disagrees with. | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "personally i'm waiting until systemd.js comes out" | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "not as much as gnome 3 devs :P" | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "Gnome3 is even worse, but at least nobody is really required to use it. Meanwhile systemd is a cancer that is becoming more difficult to avoid as the time passes." | Aug 13 22:04 |
| MinceR | wait, what? skype was a standard? | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft and their trashcan products and user experience can go fuck themselves." | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is the standard | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | the whole thread makes me sick | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | it feels like Reddit has full-time employees in Reddit | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | to manage perception | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | and they already got caught doing this | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | inc. personal attacks | Aug 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | so the signal gets drowned out | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. It's how MS has always operated.' | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | everytime i see a """user""" using M$ i cringe so hard i give myself more crows foots around my eyes | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | like just get with the time and use gnu systemd with a FOSS stack | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | See? | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, extend, extinguish. It's never going to change, regardless of what they tell you." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Love it, by dominate it. I guess Mickeysoft is a dog-person." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "The same way GlaDOS "loves" Chell." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft should have all computers come with both OSes then... to give users a real choice" | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Like, maybe, ship a linux kernel as a part of windows? That would be crazy" | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Nah, like dual boot. Who would want to have 2 Os's running at the same time?" | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "yes dual boot to make it easier to remove either one ..." | Aug 13 22:05 |
| schestowitz | "Say that to the OEMs and pc brands. They are the ones bundling windows." | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "If MS loves Linux so much, they could set it as a requirement to bundle Linux w/ Windows... (if they want to bundle Windows with the new computer)" | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "They only love linux when it benefits them. Like for the use of their azure server systems, or now, windows with linux terminal (i.e to manage their azure servers or to keep offices to stay on windows) They don't give a shit about linux for home users.' | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Definitely. And iPhones should ship with Android. And when you buy a Chevy they should give you a free Ford as well. And when you buy food from a restaurant they should give you free dessert from the restaurant next door. And when you buy a tv they should give you a free tv of the same size from a competitor. And when you see a movie at the theatre they should give you free tickets to a different movie as well. | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | You know, so people have choice. | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "more along the line like when Microsoft was forced to bundle the Netscape browser with every copy of Windows... to give people a choice..." | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "If M$ ever wants to be accepted into the world of open source this needs to end. It's morally wrong ." | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Downvoted to hell, MinceR, cause it used the dollar sign | Aug 13 22:06 |
| schestowitz | I almost dread seeing my articles in reddit because the comments are lots of pro-Microsoft bullies | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | only in reddit | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | worse than any other site | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | anyway, that's all for no | Aug 13 22:07 |
| MinceR | what site is that? | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | i didn't even know they linked to me with 220+ comments | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | sickening | Aug 13 22:07 |
| MinceR | oh, reddit | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | reddit, yes | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | full of MS staff | Aug 13 22:07 |
| MinceR | so reddit has gone slashdot's and digg's way entirely | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | even in Linux sections | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Digg was never THIS bad | Aug 13 22:07 |
| schestowitz | it died before it could get this bad | Aug 13 22:08 |
| MinceR | i want to eventually build a platform that can survive this | Aug 13 22:08 |
| MinceR | without having to reinvent and reimplement the whole thing over and over | Aug 13 22:08 |
| MinceR | letting groups of people use the same code without having to interact with each other at all | Aug 13 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I think you can reuse code | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | 'managing' the crowd is the hard part | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | without alienating | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | or without deleting comments (never did that) | Aug 13 22:09 |
| schestowitz | some people do try to push the limits, e.g. with threats | Aug 13 22:10 |
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