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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.de/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html | Nov 22 00:28 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.de | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 22 00:28 | |
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| schestowitz | While I would welcome a second point of view in the on-going discussions, and a second report of how the meetings regarding the rcognition of the unions is proceedings, and thus a second union could be advantageous, I have a few problems with the way the current second union handles current "reforms to ensure the independency of the EPO for the future". My major point of deficiency FFPE-EPO has in my views, that they do not communicate how | Nov 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | they see the current discussions. | Nov 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Once a year a blue page in the inbox of the emploees doesn't tell us much about what they are doing to address the current topics, nor where they see a possible solution, nor if an how they are in cntct with the administration/other unions/.... | Nov 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | To me it seems a lot like the FFPE-EPO officials "gave up" and do not care about FFPE-EPO anymore, and several of their members I know will leave FFPE-EPO due to their silence... | Nov 22 00:28 |
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| schestowitz | @ NotAFanOf1984Anymore | Nov 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | well if you wish to know the FFPE position read management communication my friend ;o) | Nov 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Again FFPE-EPO officials travelled WITH Mrs Bergot to meet their head office in Brussel. How can this be a trustworthy union. | Nov 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Say no more | Nov 22 00:28 |
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| schestowitz | @ Anonymous Friday, 20 November 2015 at 13:58:00 GMT | Nov 22 00:29 |
| schestowitz | you are nice little troll but my little birds say otherwise. | Nov 22 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Of course they are management friendly: they were created and sponsored internally with the one belgian colleague close to VP1 who recently has become PD (and also with the support of the then head of personnel in TH (a Dutch national now in DG3) and PD HR at the time (another Belgian now in Alicante). | Nov 22 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Recently their officials in The Hague travelled with Ms Bergot to have an official meeting in Brussel with the head office of FFPE. | Nov 22 00:29 |
| schestowitz | FFPE is a yellow union. | Nov 22 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/668399392701988864 | Nov 22 12:05 |
| schestowitz | [11:17] <frspk> Dr Schestowitz, I think some translation in French of your article would be helpfull. In 2017 is presidential election in France. The campaign will start in 2016. Given that EPO's president belong to a party in competition with the current government the social issues at the EPO could become pain points in the political debate | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:37] <schestowitz> O, I see | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:37] <schestowitz> Does that mean his confrontation is politically motivated too (with Borgn') | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:43] <frspk> No I don't think so. I would say this confrontation is rather counterproductive since the Parti Socialise (party of the current gvt and of Le Borgn') could use the president's deeds against its own party (Les Republicains). This has been tried before in Saint Germain en Laye where BB is a town councillor. But the debate kept at the level of town council; it did not go national. | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:44] <frspk> I meant: president = BB | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:44] <schestowitz> Do you think he's not fighting for EPO workers but for opportunistic party gains? | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:49] <frspk> I think a bit of both. Le Borgn' has already proven to be very engaged for EOP staff. However, his goal is _also_ to be reelected as deputy in 2017 (there is also election of the national assembly right after the election of the president). There are common targets to Le Borgn' and EPO staff, staff is a big part of Le Borgn's electors. He actually does his deputy job. | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:49] <schestowitz> I see, thanks for pointing this out | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:50] <schestowitz> I don't know much about French politics. What I do know is that National Front are racist scum ;) | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:51] <frspk> This is another pain point for both parties Party Socialiste and Les Républicains. | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <frspk> For now, French press does not much relate about OEB. The few articles about this are written by Les Echos... There is a need for an alternative source of information. | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <schestowitz> did anyone try to approach journalists about this? | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:53] <schestowitz> I know it's a rhetorical question, but more people should do so | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:53] <schestowitz> and if a paper refuses to cover it, then blog the reasons | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:53] <schestowitz> let's see how media conglomerates excuse themselves for overlooking these scandals | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <frspk> There has been few tries. People rather try to fight locally, i.e. in Germany and The Netherlands. I heard ther has been once coverage by Le Monde. | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <schestowitz> yes | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <schestowitz> I think we translated some | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [11:56] <frspk> After what has happend in The Hague and in Munich, I guess many will try to contact French media. | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <schestowitz> yes, then publish their response to requests | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <schestowitz> it can pressure them because it paints them as part of an implicit "conspiracy of silence" | Nov 22 12:16 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] <frspk> OK. Good idea. | Nov 22 12:17 |
| schestowitz | [12:01] <schestowitz> same for politicians or political parties | Nov 22 12:17 |
| schestowitz | [12:01] <schestowitz> press them repeatedly and track progress/replies | Nov 22 12:17 |
| schestowitz | [12:01] <schestowitz> It works against the New York Times with their Public Editor | Nov 22 12:17 |
| schestowitz | [12:03] <frspk> Ok, let's see if EPO staff has good connections to French media. | Nov 22 12:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/668419467211382784 | Nov 22 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/668453077603733508 | Nov 22 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842499 | Nov 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "It’s crazy this and seriously compromises the security!!!" | Nov 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | In the name of 'national security' (tight control by the state) | Nov 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6843157 | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "suffocating freedoms ,people can hardly breathe with all the pollution" | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | he said some websites violated Chinese law. | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | “For instance, if a website refers to ‘two Chinas’ or refers to mainland China and Taiwan as two independent regions, we believe that violates China’s anti-secession law, as well as other laws,” he said, according to Reuters news agency. | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | He urged the websites to “comply with China’s concerns and not do things contrary to Chinese law”. | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7785248.stm | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Wow, I didn't know it was THIS bad. I got very nasty racist attacks (worst i ever got) when I wrote about Taiwan being separate from China. | Nov 22 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Bad reporting about tech is not a surprise either. It did not matter so much when Microsoft invaded Byte Magazine in the 1980s. No one really minded when Microsoft Jack spewed complete nonsense on Guardian readers and other supposedly reputable papers. | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The problem is that everyone depends on this non free garbage in their pocket. I suppose that it's a surprise that what once could be corrupt and ignored is now front page stuff that should be much better. | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842505 | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "I remember than in 2008 there was a famous case of stabbings at Akihabara in Japan, I almost witnessed it. This criminal went to a convenience store/supermarket, bought a knife and then went to stab people. It was mentioned regulating kitchen knifes, but Japanese were not so dumb to fall for that." | Nov 22 18:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842548 | Nov 22 18:18 |
| schestowitz | it would have worked in here, I think. For some knives to be purchased here you need to be a certain age... kitchen knives | Nov 22 18:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842273 | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "Ciscos reputation is dead …" | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | But there is so many people with cisco cert who want to config cisco and only cisco gear, instead of learning how to config a *nix/linux OS. | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Fuck cisco. | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, F Cisco | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "MIT think tanks kill more people in the world with its world politics ideas than all the bombs of the world, that is my personal opinion." | Nov 22 18:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6837428 | Nov 22 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "Also all U.S. university think tanks," | Nov 22 18:22 |
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| TechBytesBot | Hello World! I'm TechBytesBot running phIRCe v0.75 | Nov 22 18:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842772 | Nov 22 18:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "This is much like the anti-Semitic arguments against letting Jews into America during the Holocaust." http://blogs.dailynews.com/friendlyfire/2015/11/21/syrian-refugees-domestic-spying-red-herring-served/ #syria | Nov 22 18:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blogs.dailynews.com | Syrian Refugees & Domestic Spying: How Do You Like Your Red Herring Served? | Friendly Fire | Nov 22 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | "They always find a reason for NOT to help…" | Nov 22 18:26 |
| schestowitz | usually personal selfish reasons that place convenience before ubuntu | Nov 22 18:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842217 | Nov 22 18:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Watch what #london media says about @snowden http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/620270/Traitor-Edward-Snowden-taught-ISIS-Paris-terrorists-avoid-detection-NSA-CIA-John-Brennan appalling, if not libellous | Nov 22 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | "On the other hand, if the US taught moderated Syrian terrorist on warfare and later many of them defected to become full terrorists that is fine." | Nov 22 18:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.express.co.uk | 'Traitor' Edward Snowden 'taught ISIS Paris terrorists how to avoid detection' | World | News | Daily Express | Nov 22 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | Oh, THIS the media in London won't cover. You need to pursue alternative news sites after your 9 to 5 (at best) hard job.... | Nov 22 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841042 | Nov 22 18:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You can feel truly unsafe when your #police (or generally authorities) can make stuff up about why they murdered you; dead can't testify. | Nov 22 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Its been that way for a long time. #blacklivesmatter is the first real challenge I’ve seen in years." | Nov 22 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841067 | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | "Thanks for applying a single standard and posting this, Dr. Roy." | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Promoting #freespeech and #freesw is "“harming state security” | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Who said that Roy? | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I quoted Ito on the "“harming state security” part | Nov 22 18:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 22 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6835743 | Nov 22 18:32 |
| schestowitz | "200,000 tapes is not a trivial expense. The madness was in not recognizing historic footage, no matter how poor quality it was." | Nov 22 18:32 |
| schestowitz | so many tapes for one single trip? | Nov 22 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moon landing tapes got erased, #NASA admits http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/20/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090720 bloody weird... | Nov 22 18:32 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.reuters.com | Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits | Reuters | Nov 22 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841985 | Nov 22 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It’s official: NSA did keep its e-mail metadata program after it “ended” in 2011 http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/11/nsa-replaced-secret-e-mail-metadata-program-with-more-expansive-tools/ law? Naa, we don't obey that. | Nov 22 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | "The tower crumbles." | Nov 22 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.co.uk | It’s official: NSA did keep its e-mail metadata program after it “ended” in 2011 | Ars Technica UK | Nov 22 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fmguitars/status/668496134457937924 | Nov 22 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fmguitars: @schestowitz @Snowden Neither before or after Snowden, yet they blame him. Hmmm??? | Nov 22 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842753 | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Germany has already experienced totalitarism, could explain | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | And germans are bored to be the Europa bad guy, raiding your economy, cutting off your budget, spying everybody and teaching you about morale and strictness, too | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841071 | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "gimp rocks!" | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | been loving it since 2001 | Nov 22 18:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #gimp has just turned 20 and has a nice new Web site to celebrate with http://www.gimp.org/ I use it daily, wife does too | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gimp.org | GIMP - GNU Image Manipulation Program | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://fortune.com/2014/04/03/whats-eating-florian-mueller/ | Nov 22 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fortune.com | What’s eating Florian Mueller? - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/ob3ur ] | Nov 22 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-opponent-cheers-delay-in-mysql-decision/ | Nov 22 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.zdnet.com | Oracle opponent cheers delay in mySQL decision | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/ob3us ] | Nov 22 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | a more classic photo http://techrights.org/2013/07/10/florian-muller-deception/ | Nov 22 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Too Many Lies From Florian Müller | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/el6zd ] | Nov 22 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | 2005 https://euobserver.com/opinion/19714 | Nov 22 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-euobserver.com | Parliament should pass resolution on software patents | Nov 22 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Many computer programmers are afraid that software patents can be used against them by larger competitors and product less entities, and point out that today's largest software companies became what they are without owning a single patent for many years." | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | I guess he was about 35 at the time | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | After the lobbying frenzy in the build-up to the 6 July vote on software patents, MEPs must have needed this year's summer break even more than usual. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Now that the parliament resumes its work, different ideas will be discussed as to what should happen next. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | In my opinion, the outright rejection of the Council's common position was the best procedural decision at the time. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | As President Borrell said in a press conference, it was "a milestone in the history of a parliament that lives up to its task and exercises its rights". | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | He also left no doubt that the parliament thereby had hit back at the Council and the Commission for ignoring its request for a fresh start. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Europe is fortunate, and many in the USA and Asia are jealous, because article 52 of the European Patent Convention expressly excludes software from patentability. That's why we have hardly any software patent litigation over here. The parliament preserved that major competitive advantage. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | 2006 http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/51054.html | Nov 22 19:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxinsider.com | Patent Activist Florian Mueller Shares EU Secrets | Business | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/ob3uz ] | Nov 22 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | interview | Nov 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | patent lawyers groomed him a few years ago http://www.managingip.com/Article/3060661/Florian-Mller-Foss-Patents-The-go-to-man-of-the-smartphone-wars.html | Nov 22 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.managingip.com | Florian Müller, Foss Patents: The go-to man of the smartphone wars | Managing Intellectual Property [ http://ur1.ca/ob3v4 ] | Nov 22 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | Now his agenda confuses me http://www.managingip.com/Article/3060661/Florian-Mller-Foss-Patents-The-go-to-man-of-the-smartphone-wars.html | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I think he's trying to reinvent himself | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | as he's in no man's land | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | "When Florian Müller appeared on this list seven years ago, most patent attorneys regarded him as an adversary. The computer whizz kid-turned-entrepreneur was a leading force in the fight against software patents, helping activists defeat the EU's plans for a computer-implemented inventions directive. Now he's the leading source of data and analysis on another patent battle: the multi-front global smartphone wars." | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_M%C3%BCller | Nov 22 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Florian Müller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ob3v5 ] | Nov 22 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " a consultant for Microsoft and Oracle" | Nov 22 19:08 |
| schestowitz | "Early on, from 1985 to 1998, he was a computer magazine writer and consultant for companies, helping with collaborations between software companies. In 2004 he founded the NoSoftwarePatents campaign and in 2007 he provided some consultancy in relation to football policy." | Nov 22 19:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | In 1985, Müller started writing articles for German computer magazines.[3] A year later, at age 16, he became Germany's youngest computer book author.[4] | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | From 1987 to 1998, he specialized on publishing and distribution cooperations between US and European software companies. He initiated and managed such alliances in various market segments, including productivity software, utility software, educational software, and computer games. As a consultant to and representative of Blizzard Entertainment, Müller was involved in the marketing campaigns for WarCraft II,[5] Diablo I[6] and StarCraft I[7] | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | . | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6840987 | Nov 22 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/667949017557430273 | Nov 22 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | "What? Will Jeff Bezos be unable to go abroad?" | Nov 22 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@declanm: It's almost like the U.S. government is about to turn your right to travel (or emigrate) into a privilege. https://t.co/Sshao2rSX3 | Nov 22 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Might have to be deported to Mexico... | Nov 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842499 | Nov 22 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Back doors for everything and everyone http://www.techlicious.com/blog/officials-push-for-encryption-backdoors-paris-terrorist-attacks/ versus targeted bans http://www.scmagazineuk.com/telegram-playing-cat-and-mouse-game-trying-to-curb-extremeists-accounts/article/454991/ | Nov 22 20:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techlicious.com | Officials Push for Encryption Backdoors after Paris Terrorist Attacks - Techlicious [ http://ur1.ca/ob466 ] | Nov 22 20:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.scmagazineuk.com | Telegram playing cat-and-mouse game trying to curb extremeists accounts - SC Magazine UK [ http://ur1.ca/ob467 ] | Nov 22 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | "And I’m sure the pirates too will use these backdoors…" | Nov 22 20:43 |
| schestowitz | They'll be too busy sailing in their boats with AK47s | Nov 22 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/metacode/status/668530295684136960 | Nov 22 21:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@metacode: Thanks 4 RTs @chunkymark @schestowitz @radiantview @rogersurfacings @gnomeoffender @3PHarmony @jazzbington @redlocal @PaulEMetz @brand_candy | Nov 22 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | "the best" | Nov 22 21:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841071 | Nov 22 21:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #gimp has just turned 20 and has a nice new Web site to celebrate with http://www.gimp.org/ I use it daily, wife does too | Nov 22 21:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gimp.org | GIMP - GNU Image Manipulation Program | Nov 22 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | A little update about SLEPPonia | Nov 22 21:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6837426 | Nov 22 21:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Radicalism is on the rise. Surely the foreign policy of the West at least contributes to that. But helps sell weapons ($). | Nov 22 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | ""Radical conservative" does seem to be an oxymoron, but I think there can be a radical step backwards, to a real or imagined past. I think the christian fundamentalists and the neocons are also on the "radical right", not just the Islamic extremists. Reagan, Thatcher and Bush were radical in their regressiveness." | Nov 22 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | ' "Alongside a very royal welcome, selfies with Sergio Aguero and supping pints of ale in the Prime Minister’s local, one part of the Chinese state visit that garnered slightly less attention was the third UK-China IP Symposium, held at the Royal Society. Although not attended by “Xi Dada” himself, attendees included higher members of the Chinese judiciary as well as representatives of some of China’s largest companies, and promised | Nov 22 23:00 |
| schestowitz | to be a valuable insight into current IP protection in China." | Nov 22 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/ | Nov 22 23:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat | Nov 22 23:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/23/sport/sergio-aguero-david-cameron-xi-jinping/ | Nov 22 23:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-edition.cnn.com | Did David Cameron photobomb Sergio Aguero and Xi Jinping? - CNN.com | Nov 22 23:01 | |
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| MinceR | 200216 < schestowitz> MinceR: http://fortune.com/2014/04/03/whats-eating-florian-mueller/ | Nov 22 23:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fortune.com | What’s eating Florian Mueller? - Fortune | Nov 22 23:20 | |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 22 23:21 |
| MinceR | crApple fanboys butthurt because florian is not enough of a crApple fanboy for them :> | Nov 22 23:21 |
| schestowitz | seems so these days | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | sometimes he slams their patents now | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | he defects a lot | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | before he worked for microsoft he was pro-FOSS | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | later on her changed | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and then he created his blog | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | in which he attacked IBM | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and helpd a Microsoft proxy, turbohercules | Nov 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | whcih later got money from MS, IIRC | Nov 22 23:29 |
| MinceR | flipfloprian | Nov 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841067 | Nov 22 23:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promoting #freespeech and #freesw is ""harming state security" in #syria apparently... punishment? Death. http://joi.ito.com/weblog/2015/11/13/urgent-reports-.html | Nov 22 23:35 | |
| schestowitz | "Good question, harry.' | Nov 22 23:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> joi.ito.com | Urgent: Reports that Bassel Khartabil has been sentenced to death - Joi Ito's Web | Nov 22 23:35 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: whatever pays the bill, I think | Nov 22 23:35 |
| schestowitz | you saw me asking Jan about him.. | Nov 22 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat once paid FM too | Nov 22 23:35 |
| MinceR | did he respond? | Nov 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | he did, I quoted in IRC | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | right now it's with the FSF | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | here it is: | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | "" | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Dear FSF licensing folks, | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | As discussed earlier in IRC (freenode), I have been pursuing answers from Red Hat regarding an urgent matter. I previously interviewed their CEO regarding patents and last week I spoke to a fairly senior person from Red Hat (unnamed for his own protection), for the third time this month. I wrote about 10 articles on this subject and it led to others writing about it as well, including some prominent bloggers. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | To put it concisely, Red Hat signed a deal with Microsoft which not only involved technical work but also what they call patent "standstill". Who is this "standstill" for? Apparently Red Hat and its customers. I strongly doubt, especially in light of Alice v. CLS Bank, that a "standstill" should be needed. Red Hat does not threaten to sue Microsoft, whereas Microsoft did in the past threaten Red Hat (even publicly). This leaves those outside | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat in an awkward position and ever since this deal I have taken note of at least two companies being coerced by Microsoft using patents (over "Android" or "Linux" [sic]) or sued by one of its patent trolls, e.g. Intellectual Ventures. This isn't really a "standstill". It's more like the notorious "peace of mind" that Novell was after back in 2006. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat has also admitted to me that it is still pursuing some software patents in the USPTO -- a fact that does not surprising me, especially giving the soaring market cap of RHT and the growing budget. This serves to contradict what people like Rob Tiller say to the courts; it shows double standards and no principled lead by example. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | I have asked the FSF's Joshua if it had looked into the patent agreement between Red Hat and Microsoft. Their lawyers in this case, Mr. Piana and Mr. Tiller (probably amongst others whom we don't know about yet), would probably claim and even insist that it's GPL-compatible, but the wording in the FAQ make it look exclusionary and there's no transparency, so one cannot verify these claims. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | We need to understand what Red Hat agreed on with Microsoft on as Microsoft can use this behind closed doors against other companies, for pressure/leverage. I am genuinely worried and fellow journalists who focus on GNU/Linux (Sean Michael Kerner for instance) tell me that they are too. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | The analysis and the voice of the FSF may be needed at this stage. I have politely urged Red Hat for a number of weeks to become more transparent, whereupon some in the company said they had escalated these requests, but evidently nothing is being done, hence I feel the need to turn to the FSF. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | I would gladly provide additional information that I have upon request. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | With kind regards, | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 22 23:39 |
| oiaohm | patent standstill is more like a cease fire. Neither side has agreed to disarm. | Nov 22 23:59 |
| MinceR | and m$ agreed not to sue redcrap's clients but not anyone else who uses the same gpl-licensed code | Nov 23 00:00 |
| MinceR | and redcrap agreed to this agreement | Nov 23 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Note the agreement does not say Redhat or Microsoft cannot challenge each other patents. | Nov 23 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Just they cannot go after each other clients. | Nov 23 00:05 |
| oiaohm | This is not like the Novell deal. | Nov 23 00:05 |
| MinceR | which won't stop redcrap from telling clients they might get in trouble for using gnu/linux if they don't get a service contract from redcrap | Nov 23 00:05 |
| MinceR | s/clients/prospective &/ | Nov 23 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Also redhat is sneaky. | Nov 23 00:07 |
| MinceR | yes, but they've shown their true colors already | Nov 23 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft has to place Redhat in Asure. | Nov 23 00:08 |
| MinceR | big deal | Nov 23 00:08 |
| MinceR | nobody uses azure anyway | Nov 23 00:08 |
| oiaohm | So bringing GPLv3 and other patent license clauses against Microsoft. | Nov 23 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Because Microsoft is running the software. | Nov 23 00:08 |
| MinceR | i guess that could benefit the rest of us | Nov 23 00:09 |
| MinceR | then again, that would happen by azure (or any other m$ infrastructure) running GPLv3 code anyway | Nov 23 00:09 |
| oiaohm | The agreement was for the complete Redhat distrobution. | Nov 23 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Including what ever Redhat decided to add in the future. | Nov 23 00:10 |
| oiaohm | So projects with patent clause licenses redhat can now protect from Microsoft by digging Microsoft into a hole. | Nov 23 00:11 |
| oiaohm | So there is some benift from the deal we would have liked to seen more. | Nov 23 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu on Asure Microsoft could choose to remove packages or forbid packages. | Nov 23 00:12 |
| MinceR | thus making azure even less appealing to users | Nov 23 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Remember if you are not provide a patent protect license open source project you can attack the users of it. | Nov 23 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes Redhat did win a little against Microsoft in this deal. But no where near as much as we need. | Nov 23 00:14 |
| oiaohm | BSD/... The more librial license stuff gains nothing from the Redhat deal. | Nov 23 00:14 |
| MinceR | and we all lost against both of them a bit in this deal | Nov 23 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Redhat maintained their right to challage patents. Novell gave that right up in their deal. | Nov 23 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Over all Microsoft lost more ground out the deal than Redhat did. | Nov 23 00:16 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR if redhat deal include the clause like Novell where patents could not be challaged I would be worried. | Nov 23 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Also the novell deal did not include a clause where Microsoft would have to be actively using the Novell product. | Nov 23 00:21 |
| oiaohm | I wonder if Microsoft has though through how much GPLv3 and other licenses like it will under mine the patents they have. | Nov 23 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/668619333845852160 | Nov 23 08:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: Aren't gov's encrypted communications a terrorism-threat-mark for it's citizens? #Anonymous @PPI @GroupAnon @schestowitz | Nov 23 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/668612588486438912 | Nov 23 08:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: But, but .... experts ?!? https://t.co/nOZlTwir3o | Nov 23 08:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Proprietary software described as "safe" https://t.co/DAlO48COtY but you cannot quite check the code to verify this | Nov 23 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | They also said MS OOXML was good... | Nov 23 08:44 |
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| schestowitz | re le echos TRANSLATION, pasted here, anon'ed: | Nov 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, | Nov 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Re: Deletion of PSA reference in Les Échos. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > WOW, fantastic, bravo Roy, excellent spotting! I couldn't have seen it | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > myself, as I was only interested in the EPO part. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sending you a PDF of the article as it stood on 20151120 02:53 UTC. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > [21:53 EST - the time stamps betray the location where the file was | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > created, so DON'T publish it, at least not as is]. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > The printing templates aren't very good, and the PDF formatting is | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > pretty shitty, with a picture overlaying the text. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > To be sure I didn't lose any information when I created the PDF, I | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > revisited the article, later at 1549 UTC and stored its contents | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > directly in a text file. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > Both are included with this message. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I find that I take snapshots of web content increasingly often, like | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > some journalists do as soon as they see a bit of interesting | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > information. I should make it even more systematic. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I'm considering to provide you with a translation, but only of the | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > EPO-related part, if I can find the time. I'm doing a lot of things too | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > these days. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | >> I will write about Les Echoes today, having not received any additional | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | >> > input ;-) | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > What kind of input? | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I could slap up a translation of the first part, that shouldn't take TOO | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > much time. But while I was typing I saw that you already published. Do | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > you still want one? You get the essence with automatic translation. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I could also translate that Dutch article, if you haven't found anyone. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I looked at it, and it's not too long. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > The third part about PSA is saying that the shareholders fired the PSA CEO. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > It's apparently old news [2013], so why? | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > Could it be that the concept of a controlling body [shareholders or AC] | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > firing their creature to be shocking for some? | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > The beast is meowing, I must go. | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | I thought we might have a human translation of the EPO part, even though it must be quite a hogwash (which I guess is what we wanted to show because biased coverage is the gripe). | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | The Dutch article, being coverage of massive protests, might be worth adding to the 'trove' of evidence, if it's available in English... a lot of people still access 'old' EPO articles and this probably includes politicians. | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842753 | Nov 23 12:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/16/germany-to-limit-spying-powers/ #bsd #surveillance | Nov 23 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 12:20 |
| schestowitz | @Patient13 … the “totalitarianism” you refer to was nothing like what we are seeing today throughout much of the Western world, which is in fact modeled on “Jewish Bolshevism”. | Nov 23 12:20 |
| schestowitz | What happened in Germany, between 1933 and 1939 is that a people came together willingly, and happily. Never in human history has there been a happier and healthier people than those many millions of ethnic Germans who lived under National Socialism. | Nov 23 12:20 |
| schestowitz | Don’t live like a Pavlov Dog, Instead, do proper research and learn your German history accurately, like a man, and not like a Puppet. | Nov 23 12:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.engadget.com | Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more | Nov 23 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | @Mission: i know very well this part of history. My grand-parents have lived it, they have faced nazi, they have seen how they act, what they are. Not all of them have survived, and they were even jews, communists, slavs or other “untermenschen” | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | In fact, my family is more “aryan” than a lot of wannabe nazi like you. That’s why my familiy forgives Germans for this; nazism was the Europa’s shame | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | That’s the first time i use asshole on diaspora, but that’s you are. Drown into your hate, loser | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Germany "happy" under Nazis... like Russians happy under Stalin | Nov 23 12:22 |
| schestowitz | "Capitulates sounds as if Cameron did not want to do it but had no other choice." | Nov 23 12:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842872 | Nov 23 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: David Cameron capitulates to terror, proposes Britain's USA Patriot Act http://boingboing.net/2015/11/17/david-cameron-capitulates-to-t.html #cameron and #tories destroy us | Nov 23 12:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> boingboing.net | David Cameron capitulates to terror, proposes Britain's USA Patriot Act / Boing Boing | Nov 23 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6840987 | Nov 23 12:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/667949017557430273 | Nov 23 12:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@declanm: It's almost like the U.S. government is about to turn your right to travel (or emigrate) into a privilege. https://t.co/Sshao2rSX3 | Nov 23 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | "No, he might have a good life like McAfee in Belize." | Nov 23 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Is he still there? | Nov 23 12:29 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > https://torrentfreak.com/google-asked-to-remove-1500-pirate-links-per-minute-151122/ | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > Again Google should be charging a hefty processing fee, with additional | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > penalties for false takedown requests. | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> There are clearly bots doing this; the only way for Google to respond is to use bots too and it means that requests are almost immediate bans. Welcome SOPA!! | Nov 23 13:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-torrentfreak.com | Google Asked to Remove 1,500 "Pirate Links" Per Minute - TorrentFreak | Nov 23 13:43 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: RMS: | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > > It is effectively a technical collaboration which also involves a | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > > ceasefire regarding patents. | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > Covering only customers and not downstream users, it is not a good thing, | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > but it may not do a lot of harm. | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | That's his stance | Nov 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I guess they'll look further into it | Nov 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | the licensing people | Nov 23 18:14 |
| MinceR | so he's really given up | Nov 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I hope that a thorough look into it will help remove uncertainty and get some hard answers. Right now it's too vague or me and some fellow developers to conclude anything from. | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: sort of... | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | but not for sure | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | it's also addressed to FSF | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | he's just given his quick take | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | > Here's the translation of the NRC article. Took me about 90 minutes. | Nov 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | > The French one will follow later. | Nov 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Just got some EPo stuff... | Nov 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/karthik_ak/status/668863561972641792 | Nov 23 18:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@karthik_ak: @schestowitz but that guy is right, almost everytime | Nov 23 18:51 | |
| schestowitz | The FSF is on it... | Nov 23 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > FYI, the latest dope circulated today. | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > Not to be published as is, because of time stamps, metadata and all. | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > It hadn't occured to me how insidious the expression "ennemis de | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > l'intérieur" was. | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sending it as a PDF, as the encryption software barfs on the HTML | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > formatting. | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | PDF is fine as long as I can copy-paste. This perfectly fits a draft I was already working on for today... | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/marcwielaert/status/668865897092747264 | Nov 23 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@marcwielaert: @nrc https://t.co/PbNd0NrS5Q | Nov 23 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents NRC (Dutch Evening Newspaper) Speaks About EPO’s Refusal to Accept Court Orders From The Hague https://t.co/WYgp5T2rBP | Nov 23 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | > On 23.11.2015 13:52, Roy Schestowitz wrote: | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/2015/11/23/nrc-on-epo-and-the-hague/ | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | NRC Handelsblad (Dutch Evening Newspaper) Speaks About EPO’s Refusal to Accept Court Orders From The Hague | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/obbh4 ] | Nov 23 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | > I noticed a couple of typos or minor improvements... [I tried to | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > maintain the original text, even though I felt that another English word | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > would be more appropriate. Eg: "consultation" is weaker that "bargaining"] | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Before | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > After | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > union is developing in a hard confrontation. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > union is developing into a hard confrontation. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Beside the head office in Munich, there is a branch at c, among other sites. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Beside the head office in Munich, there is a branch at The Hague, among | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > other sites. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > The Netherlands want to be a good host for international organisations, | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > The Netherlands want to be a good host country for international | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > organisations, | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > I must leave now, bye. | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | All fixed, all thanks to you. | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Hoping to have 6 EPO articles by day's end... long night ahead. | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | the fact that no one dared to forward this email in <em>electronic form</em> to the staff | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | representation speaks volumes about the atmosphere of fear of retaliation that | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | currently prevails in the Office, and the total lack of trust of staff in any meaningful | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | form of data protection in the Office; | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/668894317478563840 | Nov 23 21:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents LMFAO !...or should I write it in extenso ? | Nov 23 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668893859410264064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668893959876399104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668893987290353665 | Nov 23 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The Bogus Narrative Floated by #EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent https://t.co/i4Ik2d5ftC | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | The Bogus Narrative Floated by EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent | Techrights | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @glynmoody The Bogus Narrative Floated by EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent https://t.co/i4Ik2d5ftC | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents The Bogus Narrative Floated by EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent https://t.co/i4Ik2d5ftC | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668905397487542272 | Nov 23 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers https://t.co/YsRZ7mhrDx #epo #europe | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers | Techrights | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668906679195537410 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668910666883964928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668910623007375365 | Nov 23 21:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights https://t.co/RbMsk8Cr7C mostly #epo these days | Nov 23 21:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Nov 23 21:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers https://t.co/YsRZ7mhrDx #epo | Nov 23 21:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers https://t.co/YsRZ7mhrDx #epo | Nov 23 21:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6840987 | Nov 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | "No, he had such a good life that police finally went after him." | Nov 23 23:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/667949017557430273 | Nov 23 23:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@declanm: It's almost like the U.S. government is about to turn your right to travel (or emigrate) into a privilege. https://t.co/Sshao2rSX3 | Nov 23 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6847875 | Nov 23 23:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Installing #enlightenment as I have grown tired after 7 months of endless frustration with #kf5 - #plasma5 just not ready. #kde | Nov 23 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Or maybe MATE, Cinnamon, Pantheon?" | Nov 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | You should try Gnome (no troll here). | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Even I like Kde (as an ex kde fan) and above all Chakra, I love Gnome3. | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | I'll try some other ones... | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6835743 | Nov 23 23:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moon landing tapes got erased, #NASA admits http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/20/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090720 bloody weird... | Nov 23 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | "The moon landing tapes were part of a 200,000 tape batch. I don’t know what was on the other tapes, but the moon landing and other interesting tapes had no place there." | Nov 23 23:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.reuters.com | Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits | Reuters | Nov 23 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6846942 | Nov 23 23:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With about 5 cracking attempts per second at #techrights no wonder the site is slow or inaccessible. #microsoft #windows botnets. | Nov 23 23:49 | |
| schestowitz | "It works quite good from here" | Nov 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Filtering better now | Nov 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | http://fossforce.com/2015/11/devil-bsd-leaving-linux-behind/#comment-15916 | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6845675 | Nov 23 23:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | The Devil & BSD: Leaving Linux Behind | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/obc9o ] | Nov 23 23:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Devil & #BSD : Leaving #Linux Behind http://fossforce.com/2015/11/devil-bsd-leaving-linux-behind/ looking for a new adventure | Nov 23 23:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossforce.com | The Devil & BSD: Leaving Linux Behind | FOSS Force | Nov 23 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | “I prefer my great and historic figures to have a high degree of grace and leadership skills, and understand and accept the gravity and responsibility the glorious burden of being a historical figure entails, and then act appropriately.” | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I would like a pony. | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6846891 | Nov 23 23:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #techrights down for 1.5 hours today not because of many readers but because of MASSIVE number of cracking attempts | Nov 23 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | "A nasty way of being popular." | Nov 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Wish I was popular... and without being targeted by cyber attacks... | Nov 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Marjolein Katsma | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Nov 23 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | Nov 23 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | 'marjoleink' on Identica (when it was still using StatusNet); 'mk' in the current !fediverse. | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | - Marjolein Katsma | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668952523445633024 | Nov 24 00:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @schestowitz @MLKstudios That's our next president you're mocking, Mr. Hebrewitz. | Nov 24 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | Rump fans... | Nov 24 00:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668953399207956480 | Nov 24 00:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz Trump has the appeal of a used car salesman. He wears a fine suit when he lies to you. | Nov 24 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/668951464639913984 | Nov 24 00:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Ho ho ho :D | Nov 24 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668953797528449024 https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668954612490088449 https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668955048311787520 https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668955312934621184 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz He's the only one for ending the wetback tidal wave & stopped the outsourcing destruction of the middle class. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz Obama returned more Mexicans than any prez before and many are "self deporting". Their numbers are decreasing. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz Obama returned more....lol. That shitbag & ALL Dems love wetbacks because they know who they'll vote for. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz He also employs many foreign workers in his hotels. All he can do is bloviate. #Trump | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668955597669203969 https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668955834521554944 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz Time to turn off your talk radio show and switch to a music station. Enjoy some cool jazz. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz I don't listen to that shit: I'm not a patriotard, I'm a White nationalist. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668955553473794048 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz Yeah, he's a windbag. They all are. Unlike the rest he's actually interesting. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ComputeBooks/status/668963076100747264 | Nov 24 01:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ComputeBooks: @schestowitz Free Download #Books on #Programming & IT https://t.co/FSZle2ZH0K over thousands Free Books on Programming | Nov 24 01:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> itbookshub.com | Books on Programming & IT Free Download | ITBooksHub.com | Nov 24 01:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/why-enlarged-board-rejected-ac-in.html?showComment=1448275628956 | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | " It is never a good idea to post something anonymously, even under the present circumstances, because it can be easily disregarded. The President has already accused the Board member of masquerading under different identities, so the only remedy is to use one's own name, which I intend to do. After all it is not bringing the Office into disrepute, it is simply expressing concern, and it is an internal communication to one's own AC member, | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | so I fail to see how it could give rise to any disciplinary measure. Anyway, if enough people do it there is safety in numbers." | Nov 24 01:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Why the Enlarged Board rejected the AC in September [ http://ur1.ca/obdvx ] | Nov 24 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | " I am working at the EPO and discussed sending Merpel's (excellent!) statement to our AC representative with a colleague of mine. We both agreed that we would never dare to do this in our own names." | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | "According to the rules staff is not allowed to contact their AC delegates, as far as I understood. Superann, you are overly optimistic: you do bring the office in disrepute because you give voice to criticism of our holiness. " | Nov 24 01:41 |
| schestowitz | " I seem to remember BB allegedly personally removing notes left for AC members by the staff committee so I presume he doesn't consider it allowable. You can expect to be investigated re. harassment of any identifiable members of mgt and possible defamation. | Nov 24 01:41 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-european-patent-office.html?showComment=1448320097627 | Nov 24 01:45 |
| schestowitz | " The president stated several times that the opponents to his plans are just a few disgruntled examiners. The SUEPO should insist on having a vote on whether the staff agrees with the reforms and in particular a vote of confidence in the president. That would be a nice one to see. I would guess single digits, fewer than the fingers of a hand!" | Nov 24 01:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: The European Patent Office | Nov 24 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848025 | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Developers Are ‘Too White And Too Male’ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/software/open-source/open-source-developers-are-too-white-and-too-male-181070 well, software developers IN GENERAL are | Nov 24 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | "If the non free software world has better ratios, it’s because software owners spend a good 77 cents per male dollar hiring them. The pay gap is good evidence that software owners hire women and minorities because software owners are racist and sexist pigs that think women and minorities are easier to exploit." | Nov 24 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Excellent point | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Open Source Developers Are 'Too White And Too Male' | Nov 24 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6846044 | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Four-in-ten Millennials say the government should be able to prevent people publicly making statements" http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/ | Nov 24 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | "Okay, why would they be okay with this? Look, I dislike racist and offensive speech myself, but if you start limiting speech, eventually NO ONE will be able to say anything. This is a serious downhill spiral. I may hate what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it - while I use my free speech to tell you exactly what I think of what you said!" | Nov 24 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it goes both ways | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pewresearch.org | 40% of Millennials OK with limiting speech offensive to minorities | Pew Research Center | Nov 24 01:52 | |
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| schestowitz | [09:37] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848219 | Nov 24 09:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We call them Marius, Silviu, and Grease, after #softpedia authors http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Summertime-Retreat/20151031_123347 no offence, @MariusNestor | Nov 24 09:37 | |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <schestowitz> "Nice wine rack." | Nov 24 09:37 |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <schestowitz> Thanks | Nov 24 09:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848261 | Nov 24 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nice to see #twitter attracting the neo-Nazis types these days. Reminds me why I mostly stay out of that 'social' network. | Nov 24 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | "You should try it some time, Roy. They’re just as friendly as the Diaspora Communists you hang out with! http://www.spankingfit.com/" | Nov 24 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.spankingfit.com | Spanking FIT! - A spanking new approach to fitness, health, etc. based on REAL science | Nov 24 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | Didn't know D* was "Communists" | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6847875 | Nov 24 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Installing #enlightenment as I have grown tired after 7 months of endless frustration with #kf5 - #plasma5 just not ready. #kde | Nov 24 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | You may be interested in Moksha Desktop: it’s enlightenment v17 forked by the head of Bodhi Linux (a lightweight Ubuntu based on Enlightenment) because he was sick of enlightenment quirks: going from no update in a decade to three in a row in three years, each breaking internal stuff and going with binaries for configuration. | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Moksha is E17 continued, basically. | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Is it in the repos/PPAs? | Nov 24 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > I hope you are well. Thank you for allowing us to write a story on your | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > legal dispute with the EPO. I think it is important people read about | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > this, but I do appreciate that it is a delicate situation for you. | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > I just wanted to get the latest on the dispute. You said the EPO has | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > dumped its lawyers? Are they still putting the pressure on you? Did they | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > respond to your previous correspondence yet? | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > Also, what is the date of the letter you passed onto me? And are you | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > able to forward me any of the letters sent from them? | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Basically, there's no update. A legal firm said it had taken control of | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | the matter, which meant the previous firm was dumped. It has been over 2 | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | weeks now, as far as I can tell (if memory doesn't fail me), and not a | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | word. I did notice that one secretarial (I think) member of staff of | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | that firm was 'checking me out' in LinkedIn; that was almost two weeks | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | ago, maybe an effort to get some additional 'info' on me or just | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | innocent curiousity. I haven't added anything meaningful to LinkedIn | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | since 2006 when a 'friend' had me set up an account there. | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Given what I've been writing recently and also 'spontaneous protests' I | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | hope they'll realise that going after bloggers isn't a wise decision. | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | The math doesn't add up as they have more points to lose than to gain, | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | over the long run. | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | I will pass on the latest letters... (date inline) | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Please be kind and remember that an article you write on the topic, if careless, can be used by EPO as a weapon against me. I wrote 7 articles about the EPO yesterday. | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Nothing done since................................................ 6/11/2015 | Nov 24 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for sharing. Of course, I will be very careful. I just wanted | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > to clarify. Have they specifically cited your "aiding a racketeer" blog | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > as defamatory? It doesn't appear to be live. Have you taken it down as a | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > precaution? | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | I took that down around midnight on Friday, before I was able to contact David for legal advice. I wouldn't have removed it and in fact I did not obey the second request. It wasn't an admission or error, as stressed later on. | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > And is there a comment you would like to put on the record for our article? | Nov 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | It is incredibly worrying that, despite being a public body, the EPO is now intimidating national delegations (as reported earlier this month), politicians (as reported last week), lawyers of staff representatives (as reported last week), and even journalists or bloggers. This shows that not only are they chilling internal voices but also external voices -- clearly an abusive overreach that demonstrates the imperative to annul legal immunity | Nov 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | and take swift action. | Nov 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > See below. Can we discuss? | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Do you know how the correspondence was shown to this journalist (be | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > frank, I need to know these things!). | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Last week, as I pointed out to you, Florian Mueller mentioned that the EPO was pressuring me, citing some vague comments that I had made in Twitter (not giving any specifics). The journalist then contacted me for additional details, having asked about this before. | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you Roy. I appreciate this. We haven't heard back from the EPO yet. | Nov 24 11:32 |
| schestowitz | I'd take that as "no comment" if I were you. I think, based on my personal interpretation, that they're a little embarrassed about that whole fishfielder field day, trying to do a fishing expedition on sources and impede further writing (I have only _accelerated_ coverage since then). | Nov 24 11:32 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you Roy. I appreciate this. We haven't heard back from the EPO yet. | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Noteworthy facts: | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | 1. techrights.org was blocked (unprecedented) by EPO several months ago, whereupon staff committee/unions sent an angry letter to the management asking about such censorship. As far as I know, they never even received a response. | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | 2. you can browse this archive for recent headlines with additional information of the many recent developments: | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 11:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Nov 24 11:36 | |
| schestowitz | Please at least go through the headlines, which are being substantiated with direct evidence. | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | > So you showed the journalist the correspondence? There is *absolutely* no | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > problem with that, it is I just that it helps me to know these things, as it can | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > affect your liability profile. There can be a claim for additional damages for | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > "flagrancy" when litigation correspondence is disclosed to the media. | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > Chat soon? | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | I will be at home all day today and can happily talk. | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | When asked for information I was asserting that the balance between legal bullying and "flagrancy" is one wherein I am willing to take the risk in order for the story to be told publicly, in order for EPO workers (2000 protested last week, including Directors) to put pressure EPO management not to attack reporters (I presume there are some others than me, like "Schneider", whoever that is). | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | In a sense, it is known that something is going on here (because a blogger mentioned it last week, without notifying me). Whether it qualifies as "flagrancy" (given that no documents were shown at all) I don't know... but for sure it's not much of a closely-guarded secret anymore. Some people already have asked me for a while why an article vanished and some set up mirrors of portions of the site as a result... | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > I understand completely, from a bloggers perspective. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | > Am just trying to keep you safe, as is my current perspective! | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I wrote 7 articles about the EPO yesterday. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Noteworthy facts: | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | 1. techrights.org was blocked (unprecedented) by EPO several months ago, | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | whereupon staff committee/unions sent an angry letter to the management | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | asking about such censorship. As far as I know, they never even received | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | a response. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | 2. you can browse this archive for recent headlines with additional | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | information of the many recent developments: | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Please at least go through the headlines, which are being substantiated | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | with direct evidence. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I told David this: "It is incredibly worrying that, despite being a public body, the EPO is | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | now intimidating national delegations (as reported earlier this month), | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | politicians (as reported last week), lawyers of staff representatives | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | (as reported last week), and even journalists or bloggers. This shows | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | that not only are they chilling internal voices but also external voices | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | -- clearly an abusive overreach that demonstrates the imperative to | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | annul legal immunity and take swift action." | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | > We heard back, but so far no publicly available comment from the EPO. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > And sorry just one more point: what was the gist of the blog post in | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > dispute? I may have read it (have read near enough all your posts on the | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > EPO), but I would not want to work from memory and put it in the article. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | The gist: | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Microsoft uses patent extortion -- or racketeering as per RICO ACT -- to coerce companies (at least 4 companies so far this year) into Microsoft's Linux-hostile agenda. There are threats of litigation or actual litigation (with conditional settlement) to do this. It's a subject techrights has been covering extensively since 2006. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Microsoft pressured the EPO into the preferential treatment farce. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Grant Philpott is shown in his (leaked) E-mail pressuring those below him to concentrate on granting patents to Microsoft (before all others), hence helping Microsoft against European companies like TomTom (see 2009 lawsuit and 'settlement'). | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Grant Philpott has been publicly promoting the UPC, despite his job being the granting of worthy patent monopolies (proper, through prior art search, not rushed!), not setting or lobbying on law. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | That's all stuff that I can support with evidence, hence I stand by what I stand. They caught me off guard at (almost) midnight on a Friday. My solicitor's response explains why that's an act of trickery. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | The following has been published just moments ago. If you can blog about this or mention it publicly, that would help | Nov 24 12:49 |
| schestowitz | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 | Nov 24 12:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.worldipreview.com | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 12:49 | |
| schestowitz | EPO SLAPP Action (SLEPO?) | Nov 24 12:50 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for your assistance Roy and your urgency in answering my questions. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > The article has just been published. Here is the link | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > <http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243>. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > Let me know what you think and I hope it helps you in your battle with | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > the EPO. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Thank you, it's a fair article. I hope it brings WIPR more recognition inside and outside the EPO. I'm a regular reader as of months ago. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | The following has been published... just moments ago. If you can spread | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | this or mention it publicly, that would help | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | I think SUEPO ought to mention this in their site, but I don't have any contacts in SUEPO... | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. I'll write about it later today or early tomorrow | Nov 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Nov 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | I would like to take this opportunity to also apologise for some of the ruder things I said about you before. I've been meaning to apologise for a while but wasn't man enough to do so. | Nov 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks Roy. I appreciate your feedback. | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > We strive to be balanced and fair, but I think people can read from our | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > articles how bad the management is from the EPO. | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > My colleague xxx has written the majority of the stories and he | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > has done an excellent job in reporting on the developments at the office. | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > Yes i saw it. | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > They have sent you a letter? | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | 4 letters | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > done. any particular reason for going public with this now? | Nov 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Florian dropped a clue already, so inevitably people will find out. I was asked by a journalist after Florian had mentioned it. | Nov 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I am writing a rebuttal of sort right now... | Nov 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. Accepted and no hard feelings. I understood your positions. You | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > had reasons to be highly skeptical of my work and it wasn't easy to see | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > my long-term agenda. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | The money motive didn't help. I never accepted payments (or pursued any) from companies I cover. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Nov 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | > I do remember, though, that even at the most combative point you once | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > credited me for my English. That meant something to me because I never | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > lived in an English-speaking country (just visited). | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Your English is better than mine, I think. English isn't my first language either and I now try to learn as many as 5 languages (in my spare time). | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > Generally it's better not to offend people too hard. I think Rush | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > Limbaugh is pretty good at laying his fingers in wounds and ridiculing | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > his rivals without calling them names. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I only ever read about him in anti-Rush sites like Media Matters. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Nov 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | > I would advise you to use the term "corrupt(ion)" more sparingly. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > In terms of issues and people: | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - You're really doing a tremendous job on the EPO. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - FRAND is not just about anti-free standards. When there are patent | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > holders like Nokia and Ericsson, and the trolls they feed, FRAND is | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > about limiting the tax imposed on everyone, especially consumers. There | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > is no way to do UMTS, LTE, WiFi etc. without paying, but when judges | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > (like Robart, Holderman) rule that such patents are worth tiny amounts, | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > that's also very helpful. Devaluing patents is the second-best | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > alternative to abolishing them. Devaluation can discourage filing patent | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > applications and lawsuits. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I am working on an article citing you regarding Ericsson's troll. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - Horacio is a nice guy. I just believe he sincerely and without bad | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > intentions overestimates the merits and the benefits to society of the | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > system as a whole and of his company's patents in particular. That's off | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > the record. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | People at Microsoft really think they fight the good fight. And that's sad in a way. Same at Apple... | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - I hope you'll enjoy the Android versions of my games next year :-) | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | We have two Android devices here. Will give these a spin when production-ready in Play (store)... | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/galoppini/status/669152327564161024 | Nov 24 13:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@galoppini: Really sad to hear that my friend @schestowitz Best wishes and keep me informed. https://t.co/4SWNj89XNU | Nov 24 13:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DavidBrooke_IP: The #EPO has threatened legal action against the Techrights blog https://t.co/4YXfxsX4zt | Nov 24 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | > I strongly suggest you check with David Allen Green before you publish | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | > anything - it might weaken your case... | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I checked and he's okay with it. He even spoke to this journalist... | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | This is a risk I am willing to take. | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | > Re. money motive: understood. You're purer than even the FSF. | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > I also do a lot of things without a money motive. The EPO stuff. Or my | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > continued coverage of Oracle v. Google. But sometimes I don't want to | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > spend time on something pro bono. | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > Re. Apple: yes, they believe the sun shines through the ass of their | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > "innovations". I talked to their VP litigation on various occasions. We | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > also met in Mannheim and Munich. She's very nice and tough at the same | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > time. And if she knew more about technology, she might understand how | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > stupid a slide-to-unlock image patent (they don't even claim to own | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > slide-to-unlock per se, just the sliding image) is. | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > What's your first language, actually? | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > I don't blog for the time being about swpats nor epo. Not because of | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > threats or anything but just because the battle against the unitary | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > patent/UPC is over and I'm working on other subjets... | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > All I can do is forwarding on twitter. Sorry to not doing more... | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | I think that battle against UPC is not lost. The EPO's fall can bring all sorts of outcomes... | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | >> I strongly suggest you check with David Allen Green before you publish | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> >> anything - it might weaken your case... | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> I checked and he's okay with it. He even spoke to this journalist... | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> This is a risk I am willing to take. | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | > OK, but be prudent... | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | My only real risk is a personal lawsuit. This too, however, would result in staff backlash which acts as a deterrent. | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | > > Yes i saw it. | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > > They have sent you a letter? | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > 4 letters | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > will you publish them? | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | I have not decided yet. See | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Censorship at the EPO Escalates: Now We Have Threats to Sue Publishers http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/epo-censorship-with-slapp/ | Nov 24 14:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Censorship at the EPO Escalates: Now We Have Threats to Sue Publishers | Techrights | Nov 24 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | re PO: | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | EPO: | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | More clever response just occurred to me. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it weaken my case? | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | There is no case. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it increase a chance of a case? | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I don't think so, maybe the opposite. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it weaken a case if one does materialise? | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Probably, but at least the public knows about it, so it's worth the trouble. Some people have urged me to show the full extent of EPO bullying. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/669168258935857152 | Nov 24 15:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FOSSpatents: @Thaboz @DavidBrooke_IP Yes, I also noticed the link to the WIPR story on EPO v. TechRights is now broken. @schestowitz | Nov 24 15:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Thaboz/status/669168145836412928 | Nov 24 15:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Thaboz: @DavidBrooke_IP @FOSSpatents Link is broken. | Nov 24 15:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html?showComment=1448376317547 | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | whatnext said... | Nov 24 15:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 24 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/epo-censorship-with-slapp/ | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | > well, they may be clever responses, but never underestimate the cunning | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > of unscrupulous lawyers to turn your words against you...err on the side | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > of caution. | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | yes, and guess what? | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | The WIPR article has just been removed, so I assume EPO threatened WIPR or something. How far will these people go? | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6849693 | Nov 24 15:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #epo attempts to silence me with #slapp http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 the latest modus operandi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAPP | Nov 24 15:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 ) | Nov 24 15:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> en.wikipedia.org | Strategic lawsuit against public participation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 24 15:16 | |
| schestowitz | "Please do post more when you have news on this subject!" | Nov 24 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > Original title: Re: EPO SLAPP Action (SLEPO?) | Nov 24 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Buried under lots of stuff at the moment, will reply at a later stage. | Nov 24 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Please help spread the word about what EPO has been up to. | Nov 24 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | > quite... | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | >> Hmmm... and now WIPR tweets linking to the article about #epo are being | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | >> deleted. Can't be an easy/simple explanation here... | Nov 24 16:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Censoring WIPR Article About Censorship by EPO | Techrights | Nov 24 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | > Hey Roy, | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Just a technical glitch. It's back up now. | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, was relieved to see it back online. No idea if the editor wanted it removed or the EPO... | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Hey Roy, | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > We actually we haven't had any contact from the EPO. Although, I | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > wouldn't put it past them to lean on us about such allegations in the | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > future, in this instance they haven't. We still haven't had a response | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > from the EPO yet. When we decided to upload the story again we decided | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > to make an internal edit. | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I've noticed. | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | If EPO wasn't this aggressive, journalists probably wouldn't be THIS careful :-) | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > For me this is still online: | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | They changed it: | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 16:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.worldipreview.com | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | > thanks, RT'd | Nov 24 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > thanks, RT'd | Nov 24 16:49 |
| schestowitz | First they told me it was a "technical glitch" | Nov 24 16:49 |
| schestowitz | 10 minutes later they told me they "made internal edits". | Nov 24 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Not consistent. Maybe someone spoke to someone... | Nov 24 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | > It's out of my hands now. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > But remember, SUEPO is currently being decapitated, and BB's henchmen | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > are scrutinizing every single word to find an excuse to fire one of them | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > pesky unionists. The threats to the staff reps included as "evidence" | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > [barely legible] whois records for suepo.org. But linking to WIPR should | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > be OK, even if the content was later bowdlerized. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > I just checked IPkat, and there are several comments already, so word is | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > out, and there's nothing I could add of value around there: | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > Just be patient, I'm quite sure this will percolate. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 24 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | > You should perhaps include a direct link in your initial post to point | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > to your update showing the [self-?]censorship at WIPR. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > [Gee, I ought to systematically save everything I see as soon as I see | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > it for the first time. I'm grepping the Firefox cache to see if I could | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > recover the initial version, but the results are dry. I see that some of | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > the WIPR site must be opened somewhere -- I always have about one | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > gazillion tabs opened -- and reloaded automatically. sh*t! I should have | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > killed FF before I began]. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > Have a look at the first entry on you EPO Wiki, the HTML is broken: | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 17:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Nov 24 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | This is now fixed. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I suppose that SUEPO is having the most trouble right now and outsiders like us, who have no stake in the EPO, cannot do very much 'politically' | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | >> They changed it: | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | >> > http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | > Insane. | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | > I have nearly finished my script to mirror pages, will post a recipe | Nov 24 17:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Censoring WIPR Article About Censorship by EPO | Techrights | Nov 24 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | > on github once I have it finished. | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | If you crawl the site, please try to do it at quiet hours so as to not prevent people (not bots) losing access to articles due to server load ;-) | Nov 24 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/669320377454206980 | Nov 25 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CandidCanon/status/669320684942704640 | Nov 25 06:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CandidCanon: @IAM_magazine @ipwatchdog @schestowitz Gene is a mean-spirited blowhard. No, I do not see the irony. | Nov 25 06:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/669330677045706753 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/669331405923446784 | Nov 25 06:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@patentology: Has @EPOorg totally lost the plot? Big international #patent body threatens defamation suit v blogger @schestowitz! https://t.co/Fk5t8NfUT6 | Nov 25 06:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.worldipreview.com | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 25 06:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@patentology: Seems @WorldIPReview journalists also self-censoring out of fear of @EPOorg. Par nixed on what @schestowitz wrote. https://t.co/lmKuGCpGUF | Nov 25 06:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/669367011495903233 | Nov 25 06:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GreyBservices: @FOSSpatents this really a shame! I've been reading Tweets of @schestowitz for quite some time. I had no idea this gonna go to this level. | Nov 25 06:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6850957 | Nov 25 07:27 |
| schestowitz | "I would love to read why as a consumer is so bad being able to buy something that at its core is essentially identical to something else a lot more expensive, but have better things to do like watching the cat outside my home." | Nov 25 07:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If "strong" patents mean "hard to obtain", few, solid, on non-abstract things, then yes, maybe... https://twitter.com/ipwatchdog/status/669205524408176640 | Nov 25 07:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ipwatchdog: The theory of patents and why strong patents benefit consumers via @ipwatchdog at https://t.co/TDv4Qcp7yn | Nov 25 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6849693 | Nov 25 07:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #epo attempts to silence me with #slapp http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 the latest modus operandi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAPP | Nov 25 07:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> en.wikipedia.org | Strategic lawsuit against public participation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 25 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Hmm. I still reach it, copying it anyway." | Nov 25 07:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6849166 | Nov 25 07:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #dropbox "the target of speculation that it proactively scans user uploads" http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/how-dropbox-found-a-child-porn-collector-and-a-chess-club-stopped-his-rampage/2/ #nsa #prism #surveillance | Nov 25 07:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:28 |
| schestowitz | "One of the men had enrolled at Illinois Central College, where instead of taking classes, a news account noted that he “spent hours, then ‘all day long’ looking at pornographic websites on ICC computer” | Nov 25 07:28 |
| schestowitz | Watching child pornography is bad, but also murder and some murderers get off the hook due to mental illness. I wonder if people like the cited above get help and rehabilitation besides of only severe punishment. | Nov 25 07:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | After Dropbox finds a child porn collector, a chess club stops his knife attack | Ars Technica | Nov 25 07:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842753 | Nov 25 07:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/16/germany-to-limit-spying-powers/ #bsd #surveillance | Nov 25 07:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | They were not “Nazis”! The National Socialists never called themselves “Nazis”. That derogatory word was invented by Khazarian imposter-Jews, before being propagated by the British media. | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | There is ample documentary and photographic evidence proving the German people were happy under National Socialism. | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Furthermore, to attempt to compare Stalin to Adolf Hitler is like trying to compare a Wild Pig infested with worms, to a pedigree Alsatian. | Nov 25 07:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.engadget.com | Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more [ http://ur1.ca/oba61 ] | Nov 25 07:30 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Proud that somebody read me. Sad that was a farcical nazi. Let me teach you “nazismus” was introduced and used as collective nickname by nazis themselves | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | At least, know your story, you degenerated bubblehead ubermensch | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | @Patient13 … you don’t know “this part of history well” at all. You are simply a prejudiced, jaundiced, hate-filled ignoramus who believes “the Jews” are God’s chosen. Were the violins playing as you composed your wailing comment? | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | People are not full of hate just because they disagree with your error-filled understanding of history and European culture. | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | About 150,000 half-Jews served in the Wehrmacht. Many gaining military honours. Volunteers from all over Europe signed up to fight for the ideals Germany was advancing. It is they who filled the ranks of the Waffen-SS. | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Much that you foolishly believe to be “true history” is actually a pack of lies invented by those determined to destroy not only Germany, the German people, and Europe … but all white people everywhere. | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | You spill your bile yet you choose to “follow” me. You have a mental problem kiddo. | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Europe’s shame was its Jew-inspired attempt to genocide the entire German race between late 1944 and early 1947 !! | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | That self-destructive insanity explains why Europe is currently finding itself being overrun by Black Africans and Asians from the near-East. | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | I will give you chance to read this comment before blocking you. | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Could you sourcing these 150000 “half-jews” soldiers? I can source more than 5 millions jews killed by nazis, and jews was just some victims among all | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Are you german, Mission? I wonder what’s sort of german you could be | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 07:32 |
| schestowitz | I am stunned by the ignorance here. | Nov 25 07:35 |
| schestowitz | "Europe’s shame was its Jew-inspired attempt to genocide the entire German race between late 1944 and early 1947 !!" | Nov 25 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see, so it was a Jewish genocide AGAINST the Germans! | Nov 25 07:35 |
| schestowitz | "Could you sourcing these 150000 “half-jews” soldiers? I" | Nov 25 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Revisionism of history. My great grandpa fought for Germany in WW1 yet was jailed by the Nazis and had to escape because he was being 'too' Jewish... | Nov 25 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Sad to see neo-Nazis in Diaspora... | Nov 25 07:35 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party To be correct in German National Socialist Party NSDAP never called themselves Nazi | Nov 25 07:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Nazi Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 25 07:37 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_%28UK%29 The reason for the Nazi name is this. | Nov 25 07:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | National Socialist Party (UK) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 25 07:37 | |
| oiaohm | The reality that there was two parties with the National Socialist Party title. So in English documents between Germany and England yes written by the National Socialist Party of Germany the term Nazi is used. | Nov 25 07:38 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6852093 | Nov 25 07:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Study Shows Why Media Need To Disclose Funding Behind Fossil Fuel Front Groups http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/11/24/new-study-shows-why-media-need-to-disclose-fund/207078 #energy #astroturf | Nov 25 07:41 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | New Study Shows Why Media Need To Disclose Funding Behind Fossil Fuel Front Groups | Blog | Media Matters for America | Nov 25 07:41 | |
| schestowitz | "Makes sense." | Nov 25 07:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848261 | Nov 25 07:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nice to see #twitter attracting the neo-Nazis types these days. Reminds me why I mostly stay out of that 'social' network. | Nov 25 07:41 | |
| schestowitz | "Didn’t know that T was “neo-Nazi”." | Nov 25 07:41 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany | Nov 25 07:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Nazi Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 25 07:41 | |
| schestowitz | I get your point, but I didn't say it was ALL about neo-Nazis, only that they exist and maybe thrive there | Nov 25 07:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes the first book to use the term Nazi is on that wiki page. | Nov 25 07:42 |
| oiaohm | 1923 book by Arthur Moeller van den Bruck | Nov 25 07:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes a German historian when writing the english translation found Nazi simpler. | Nov 25 07:43 |
| schestowitz | so that refutes the above | Nov 25 07:45 |
| schestowitz | that it was just some made up term conjured up later | Nov 25 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Nazi term existed before hittler took power. | Nov 25 07:45 |
| oiaohm | 1923 is the print date of that book. Hitler took power in 1933 | Nov 25 07:46 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Nov 25 07:48 |
| oiaohm | Of course the term at that time had none of the current day horible throught aligned with the word Nazi those come after all the crimes are documented | Nov 25 07:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6849202 | Nov 25 08:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "ISIS that made it" (Islamic State known as Saudi Arabia) https://framasphere.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_7a833ca644df5a0b8b44.jpg | Nov 25 08:21 | |
| schestowitz | "And both ISIS and Saudi Arabia depend of oil, without it would be nothing." | Nov 25 08:21 |
| schestowitz | I think ISIS is also partly 'crowdfunded' | Nov 25 08:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6851480 | Nov 25 08:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The statement of a closed mind https://twitter.com/ipwatchdog/status/669264616292261893 | Nov 25 08:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 08:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ipwatchdog: . @schestowitz I don't care what you cite to support you. It doesn't change reality that software is NOT math. | Nov 25 08:21 | |
| schestowitz | Has he ever written a piece of code? | Nov 25 08:22 |
| schestowitz | I’m more appalled by the idea that no matter the evidence, he’s right. | Nov 25 08:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 08:22 |
| schestowitz | The patent community calls him "blowhard" | Nov 25 08:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6850784 | Nov 25 08:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Xiaomi Mi Pad 2 announced – here are the details http://www.androidauthority.com/xiaomi-mi-pad-2-announced-specs-price-release-date-657463/ #android #linux | Nov 25 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | "wonder how much theater is involved with getting this to boot a (quasi)standard distro?" | Nov 25 08:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.androidauthority.com | Xiaomi Mi Pad 2 announced - here are the details - Android Authority | Nov 25 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6851057 | Nov 25 08:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious http://www.wired.com/2015/11/i-turned-off-javascript-for-a-whole-week-and-it-was-glorious/?ref=webdesignernews.com block ads too, for safety and #privacy | Nov 25 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Just a side note for those interested: If you are using Firefox, you can turn off Javascript in about:config > javascript.enabled = false"" | Nov 25 08:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | I Turned Off JavaScript for a Whole Week and It Was Glorious | WIRED | Nov 25 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | It harder to toggle on upon demand. | Nov 25 08:23 |
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| schestowitz | I've just got this from one of my sources, who think EPO merely uses "scare tactics", based on the legal circumstances, as explained below: | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | =============== | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We saw the article about the EPO's legal threat against you. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Here are a few comments off the top of our heads .... | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | First of all we noticed that the article objected to contained a reference to Grant Philpott. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | The "edit" to the WIPR article involved removing Philpott's name (as he was named in the original WIPR report). | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | For what it's worth Philpott is British and he used to be in the British Army (many years ago). | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | This is no secret: http://www.ipbusinesscongress.com/2015/Speakers.aspx#Grant_Philpott | Nov 25 11:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 400 @ http://www.ipbusinesscongress.com/2015/Speakers.aspx#Grant_Philpott ) | Nov 25 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | We have no idea what significance if any this might have to anything or if it's just coincidental ... | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | It's not clear at the moment whether it's the EPO who are making a claim against you or Philpott (in a personal capacity) or both. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | However, we think that all of this may (hopefully) backfire on Battistelli and his crew. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Either it's just a bluff or they really intend to go to court. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Our understanding of the situation is that if the EPO does go to court it will have to lift its immunity. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | That could be quite dangerous for them. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Your lawyers need to be aware of the Protocol on Privileges and Immunities (PPI): | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/2013/e/ma5.html | Nov 25 11:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.epo.org | The European Patent Convention, Protocol on Privileges and Immunities of the European Patent Organisation – (Protocol on Privileges and Immunities) | Nov 25 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | Get your lawyers to look at the PPI in particular Article 20: | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | "(1) The Organisation shall co-operate at all times with the competent authorities of the Contracting States in order to facilitate the proper administration of justice, to ensure the observance of police regulations and regulations concerning public health, labour inspection or other similar national legislation, and to prevent any abuse of the privileges, immunities and facilities provided for in this Protocol." | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | If the EPO decides to go to court, then it will be obliged under Article 20(1) PPI to "co-operate ... with the competent authorities of the [U.K.] in order to facilitate the proper administration of justice ... and to prevent any abuse of the privileges, immunities and facilities provided for in this Protocol." | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | On that basis, we suppose that you could lodge requests for discovery of documents etc. and that the EPO would have to comply if they want to pursue any action against you. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | They shouldn't be allowed to misuse a UK (or other national) court in an attempt to prosecute you while at the same time being allowed to hide behind their cloak of immunity. Refer to the legal principle of "equality of arms" which should apply in a UK court. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | If the EPO tries to get "serious" about court proceedings, then maybe you can request that the court obtains a binding undertaking from the EPO that it waives its immunity from jurisdiction and execution for all matters relating to the case including any counter-claims that you may make against them. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | This could be the biggest mistake that BB has made so far. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | By trying to muzzle free speech outside the EPO he is moving outside of his normal "comfort zone" where he gets to make and break the rules as he pleases. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | There is also a high probability that this attempt to take legal action against a "blogger" could attract a lot more "mainstream" interest in the whole affair (à la Streisand). | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We are sceptical that Battistelli really wants to go before a national court with stuff like this. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | It sounds more like scare tactics - but maybe he is sufficiently bonkers to try it ... | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We will be following developments with close interest. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Regards | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | > Since you insisted, I of that ludicrous piece of shit, in its initial version. | Nov 25 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > "270,000 applications" is the good ol' pissing contest... This stupid trick was addressed repeatedly over the last few years in different blogs [and I have a lot to say about that, but not on TechRights]. | Nov 25 12:13 |
| schestowitz | The second part about Air France KLM seems a somewhat more balanced when compared to the first one," our reader told us. "But should one trust it more than part one? | Nov 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to translate it, I have to go take a walk to calm down. | Nov 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html?showComment=1448438226623 | Nov 25 13:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 25 13:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | To Kant, 07:57 | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, Dr Schestowitz has not only expressed misgivings about the UPC - he thinks the UPC is part of a conspiracy in favour of software patents. | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | This is as daft as the EPO management's conspiracy theories in the opposite direction. | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | > Newest stuff. | Nov 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for that. In this case, no publicity other than internal only would do them any good, so I'll keep it only for information. Nice to see Techrights mentioned there... | Nov 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | a) massive The Hague GA | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday a massive General Assembly took place in The Hague: due to the Administra on ban, it took place at 10 minutes walking | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | distance from the Office, in a kind of concert hall which looked very packed with 800 to 1000 par cipants (according to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | various es mates – see picture below). Besides the acclaimed speeches a remarkable number interven on came from the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | floor calling for more concrete ac ons to support our colleagues. The call from the floor for a symbolic ONE DAY strike with | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | maximum par cipa on was greeted by a massive and unambiguous show of hands. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | b) Pe | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | on is ini ated in Mu | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | As announced last week , a pe on is circulasignatories from the risk of retalia on. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | ng in Munich (see email below). The pe | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | on will be handed out to a notary to protect | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Staff from all POEs are invited to join in and help collec ng the signatures, in which case the room for returning the forms need to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | be changed: for this purpose a Word document is a ached to the present email. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | c) Enemies everywhere... | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | The Blogger, Florian Müller, posted yesterday an ar cle taking a clear view on the latest ac ons of the EPO, tled “Shame on the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | European Patent Office for its legal threats against TechRights”: he notes that “with almost 20,000 blog posts, Dr. Schestowitz had not | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | received a legal le er before an EPO lawyer sent him one.” and despite not being a great fan of the “opinionated” TechRights site (the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | la er has o en a acked Mr. Müller), he adds he would personally “contribute money and lend an endorsement to a crowdfunding effort to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | finance his defence”. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | 1. In the past months, the EPO President has made it abundantly clear that the EPO has many internal Enemies: poten ally any staff | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | members –hence the surveillance-, the Staff representa on ins tu ons – hence the limita ons - and its representa ves –hence the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | inves ga ons and the disciplinary procedures. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | 2. In the past weeks, it was made clear that the EPO has enemies in the interested circles: Member States Delega ons of the AC seem to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | have been threatened of consequences for their ac ons by the President. The exchange of le ers last week has shown that elected | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | na onal Parliament Members, like Mr. Le Borgn’, allegedly represent a threat to the organisa on. This is new for the whole EPO history. | Nov 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | 3. Since yesterday, it is becoming also clear that the enemies are everywhere, in the media and elsewhere: accordingly bloggers and | Nov 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | even lawyers receive the same treatment of legal threats and in mida ons... | Nov 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | I very cautiously select what to publish, what not to publish (never or for now), and I keep a detailed list of what I got when, and where. The mail titled 7780a, 7780, 7781 I will maybe get around to next week because it's not time-critical. | Nov 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Eventually I'll get to everything... including the threat letters I received (need to selectively write about these) | Nov 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Busy month ahead... big backlog here... material to cover about EPO. If I'm not fast enough, I may - GASP - lose my xmas leave ;-) | Nov 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MikeTilbury/status/669581576766939136 | Nov 25 18:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MikeTilbury: @schestowitz @TheRegister wow that's a great feature. | Nov 25 18:41 | |
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| schestowitz | The next post will reuse your words sparingly. | Nov 25 23:51 |
| schestowitz | > If you don't have yet the couple of SUEPO and staff rep documents | Nov 25 23:51 |
| schestowitz | > published since last week, I can forward them to you. | Nov 25 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Can you, please. | Nov 25 23:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HelpSnowden/status/669662826789781504 | Nov 25 23:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HelpSnowden: @schestowitz thanks for sharing Dr. Roy Schestowitz, have a great Wednesday :) | Nov 25 23:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/why-enlarged-board-rejected-ac-in.html?showComment=1448486433693 | Nov 25 23:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Why the Enlarged Board rejected the AC in September | Nov 25 23:59 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | ILOAT Judgment No. 2114 in re Vollering. | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | According to this Judgment staff of an IO should not contact members of a national Parliament in relation to matters affecting the IO. | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | However, this does not seem to be the same thing as bringing matters to the attention of members of the governing body of the IO. | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html?showComment=1448489055342 | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Oh HvA, I really think you're over egging the EBA's findings. As I recall, the EBA concluded that the AC hadn't made out its case and decided, quite rightly in my view, that it was not the EBA's role to work through all of the material on the USB sticks supplied by the AC and make the AC's case for it. That is not nearly the same as finding that the DG3 member is innocent and that the DC was wrong as stated in your first post. | Nov 25 23:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 25 23:59 | |
| schestowitz | Of course the DG3 member is innocent until found guilty, but I really don't think that changes things so as to make your comments correct. | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/669671963594502145 | Nov 26 00:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents EPO Member Nations need to realize that too! Soon. | Nov 26 00:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788350 | Nov 26 01:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook already knows everything about you and planted cookies everywhere, so you don't have to specify name https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/facebooks-new-name-policy-changes-are-progress-not-perfection | Nov 26 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes sure, it is very hard to help others, because the Mainstram in West Europe are using Facebook as their Main Internet Replacement ! It is like swishing to from Google Android to Cynagon Mod or/and Windows to Linux …" | Nov 26 01:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eff.org | Facebook's New Name Policy Changes are Progress, Not Perfection | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Nov 26 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6852927 | Nov 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | "Let us know how we can help." | Nov 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Spread the word online, their reputation is already in the gutter | Nov 26 01:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 26 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | FOSS Patents blog mentioned here | Nov 26 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151125/06173532901/european-patent-office-threatens-blogger-with-defamation-lawsuit-criticism.shtml | Nov 26 01:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.techdirt.com | European Patent Office Threatens Blogger With Defamation Lawsuit For Criticism | Techdirt | Nov 26 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | Of course, how avoid civilian deaths when fighters merge into? Expensive, useless and helping ISIS to recruit among survivors, so casualties are easily compensated | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | “La guerre est une chose trop grave pour être confiée à des militaires” | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | (War is too serious matter to leave it with military men) | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | George Clemenceau, French president (1917-1920) | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6852088 | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6855043 | Nov 26 01:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "many innocent civilians had been killed in recent bombings of the ISIS occupied city of Raqqa." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/11/legal-does-not-mean-wise/ #syria | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Legal Does Not Mean Wise | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moglen on low cost of storage and why the so-called 'cloud' is a disaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA epic talk, prophetic (before #nsa leaks) | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Eben Moglen - Freedom in The Cloud - YouTube | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | > short version: | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > problem found, was on my side! | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | >> You can't decrypt the other message ? What message do you see ? | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | >> gpg: encrypted with ELG key, ID 4F60A0E4 | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > gpg: decryption failed: No secret key | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > Okay, problem found. This was my mistake, I was too lazy and typed only "sch" (for "Schestowitz") when I encoded the other mail. | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > For sending to you, I do this manually: | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > gedit 1.txt | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > gpg -a -e 1.txt | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > (here I entered this time a too-short-fraction of your name, here: "sch" instead of "schesto", and gpg found a different recipient) | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > and, oops, did not carefully watched that a wrong public key was selected. | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > Problem solved. Not YOUR fault. Pls. don't answer. | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > I will try to remember what I wanted to say in the first mail. One think was at least: | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > * Full support for your work, well done so far. | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > * (rest follows some time later) | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/larrondomanuel/status/669692097184796674 | Nov 26 01:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@larrondomanuel: #ParisAttacks There was a failure to follow up on all the information that security forces already had #surveillance https://t.co/msqjtLK8cG | Nov 26 01:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Don’t Blame Edward @Snowden for the #ParisAttacks https://t.co/7xxzMscKBD https://t.co/NafgQZTqFU | Nov 26 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | The Linux loons are mobilizing against RedHat due to RedHat's decision to | Nov 26 02:06 |
| schestowitz | partner with Microsoft. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/07/red-hat-chastised-over-patents/ | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | This is why when you hear a Linux loon talking about choice you should | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | ignore him because the only choice is THEIR CHOICE. Choose something | Nov 26 02:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Red Hat is Chastised For Playing Along With Microsoft’s Patent Scheme Rather Than Challenge the Patents Like Google and the Alice Case Did | Techrights | Nov 26 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | different and you will be attacked. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | In order to be an accepted member of the Linux loon community, you need to | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | be 100 percent in lock step with them. Even the smallest deviation will | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | subject you to being attacked. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | It all goes with the mantra of the Linux loon community. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/W25s07NkA_c/eeUAtd8mDwAJ | Nov 26 02:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 26 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | Yep, not unexpected. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | Fortunately, RedHat being a company interested in profits, will most | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | likely ignore the 'community' of loons that surround linux. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | "Your comment does not have anything to do with article. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | They will follow the money, like most smart corporations. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | The loons totally discredit their arguments by embracing paranoid lunatics | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | like Dr. Schestowitz. His site is like a viper pit of extreme paranoia and | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | misinformation. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | A couple of weeks ago I took his banner article and carefully read through | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | it following the many links embedded in the article and offered as proof of | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | his claims. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | The vast majority of them lead right back to his own articles! | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | And if they don't, they lead to the same small group of the Linux | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | extremists like SJVN. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Sites like that harm Linux and FOSS. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | What a shocker that "Doctor" Suckstwodickz would go after the one Linux | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | company actually making some money for using common sense. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | "Doctor" Suckstwodickz will make broad, idiotic statements and use his | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | own broad, idiotic statements as proof that whatever he says is true. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | It's a new level of stupid even for Linux losers. Luckily, the people | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | here don't have to suffer through his lying because he stopped posting | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | but it looks like he left one of his turds behind (Joseph "7" Michael) | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | to spout nonsense in his place. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | "Most Linux users are pro-choice, obviously. " | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | It should be explicitly pointed-out that nowhere in the linked-to | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | article is there anything about anyone "mobilizing against" Redhat, or | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | even being critical of them, for their decision to partner with | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft. | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Also, here in cola (supposed bastion of Linux "loons") no one spoke | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | against it, that I saw. | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Poor trolls. All they have is their lies. | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/D84PcZwXTfQ/u_6qxFp4AQAJ | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | THOSE HORRIBLE MONSTERS!! I wonder if "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz will | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | manage to keep his mouth off of Wretched Stallman's dick long enough to | Nov 26 02:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 26 02:10 | |
| schestowitz | comment on this. | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Opens-VS-Code> | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | It's already been a surprising year with Microsoft's many | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | open-source/Linux-related announcements and 2015 isn't even over yet! | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | There's another interesting announcement today. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has announced they've open-sourced Visual Studio Code. Not to | Nov 26 02:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.phoronix.com | Microsoft Open-Sources Visual Studio Code - Phoronix | Nov 26 02:11 | |
| schestowitz | be confused with the full-blown Visual Studio integrated development | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | environment, Visual Studio Code is their more web-focused IDE based on | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | GitHub's Atom. Microsoft released Visual Studio Code earlier this year | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | and they provided native Linux support. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has opened up VS Code under the MIT license and they are | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | welcoming community contributions. The code is on GitHub. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | The announcement was made via the VisualStudio.com blog along with other | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | updates they've made this month to Visual Studio Code. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:11 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: key thing about MIT license is the fact you can make a closed source product with extentions and never display what you have changed. | Nov 26 04:15 |
| oiaohm | So MIT VS Code is perfect for the three E. | Nov 26 04:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6855102 | Nov 26 08:59 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 08:59 |
| r_schestowitz | “Software is math”… | Nov 26 08:59 |
| r_schestowitz | Its actually logic not math, and I pretty sure he’s using piece of shit websites/softwares such as facebook/word with a ton of badly finished parts. | Nov 26 08:59 |
| r_schestowitz | @Lee: interesting stuff, got to say I’ve to work with one for now and it’s plain shit (I feel like it’s telling me “got to do a small changes to all files? Do you see that bigass fuck you sign?”) | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6855043 | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | … @Feingeist Schmalzkopf, | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | “Freedom in the Cloud” - the inspiration behind diaspora* | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | http://nymag.com/nymag/rss/media/68512/ | Nov 26 09:00 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 09:00 |
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| r_schestowitz | FM: | Nov 26 09:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > Thanks. I can see the reservations about me that he refers to. They're a fact in those circles. He's generally hostile to IP, while I'm in favor of super-strong copyright but believe the world would be better off without software patents. I never had a debate with him except once on Twitter about standard-essential patents. In that Twitter debate, the author of PatentlyO, an IP law professor (Dennis Crouch), favorited what I told Mike | Nov 26 09:51 |
| r_schestowitz | about one SEP not being a substitute for another because any one SEP can prevent someone from implementing a standard ("it only takes one bullet to kill", as Motorola's damages expert wrote a few years ago). | Nov 26 09:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 26 09:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > I'm glad Mike is also on your side here. He has significant traffic, and just in case we ever need to do crowdfunding to support you, he could mobilize lots of people. I could lend some credibility to this because I would do it despite having been attacked before, but the people who are most interest in my opinion are not activists at this stage. I'm the most popular IP critic among IP professionals (they somehow feel better about my way | Nov 26 09:51 |
| r_schestowitz | of disagreeing with them than yours or Mike's, for example), but I'm the least favorite one among activists. | Nov 26 09:51 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6854863 | Nov 26 11:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #cooperative (as the name suggests, staff-run/owned) in #manchester busiest area is being replaced by a bloody #mcdonalds - sign of rot | Nov 26 11:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | I eat McDonalds burgers like once or twice a year, just because sometimes suddenly feel like that. I know those are the most artificial burguers one can get but even so the taste is somewhat adictive. | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | I’m remembering if this year had one, suddenly got hungry. | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | "You don’t have to post twice | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Site load issues caused an error the first time | Nov 26 11:32 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/669814194594795520 | Nov 26 11:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SeaH2ONymph: #CIA Michael Scheuer: #US should take out every piece of infrastructure—hospitals, universities, irrigation systems https://t.co/wnsmPRXaGn | Nov 26 11:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: ‘They’re Not Americans’: CNN Guest Justifies Massive Attacks on Civilians https://t.co/2FyaT0G42z #exceptionalism #cnn | Nov 26 11:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NewsCoverUp/status/669843488784142336 | Nov 26 11:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NewsCoverUp: @schestowitz Hey Doc fine! Could you tell me wich Phone & Tablet Best to Work with Linux Ubuntu? | Nov 26 11:44 | |
| r_schestowitz | The Nexus devices can connect OK over MTP to newer versions of GNU/Linux | Nov 26 11:44 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6855483 | Nov 26 11:47 |
| r_schestowitz | "You cannot have everything, is nice and shiny nuclear weapons or tens of millions of houses." | Nov 26 11:47 |
| r_schestowitz | People in power don't blink. they know what they need to protect their mansions | Nov 26 11:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 26 11:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6854832 | Nov 26 11:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Well, could be worse. @Control_Risks ('British Blackwater') serves the 'heads' of people. Others serve fingers http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/09/us-soldiers-afghan-civilians-fingers | Nov 26 11:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies' | US news | The Guardian | Nov 26 11:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:47 |
| r_schestowitz | “Collecters”. Old psychopatic warrior tradition, not the worst but not so far | Nov 26 11:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Use them, then send them on suicidal missions. NEVER back them to home. Never. You need 5 of them to make half an human | Nov 26 11:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:47 |
| r_schestowitz | They should have left these brutes in Iraq... they're unsuitable to come to civilian life | Nov 26 11:48 |
| r_schestowitz | neo Nazos in D* | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | Okay, let’s do one more round as this is fun. Clearly I am stirring some arrogantly self-righteous minds sufficient to push them into new territory. Perhaps I will succeed in getting at least one to grow-the-f*ck-up. | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | Let’s begin with the big mouth who can’t debate facts, and relies totally on name calling. | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | @Patient13 … a dumb person screams like a Monkey when faced with someone who knows two-orders of magnitude more than they do. And your Monkey tail has got you hanging upside down already, whilst foaming at the mouth. | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | “Let me teach you “nazismus” was introduced and used as collective nickname by nazis themselves.” | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | You teach me? Now I am laughing out loud! | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | Okay then. So why don’t you show the source material proving your assertion? Instead of shooting your big mouth off, why don’t you simply provide reliable links to source materials that prove “nazismus” was introduced and used as collective nickname by nazis themselves? | Nov 26 11:49 |
| r_schestowitz | And don’t bother quoting Wikipedia at me, as that will essentially prove you are a charlatan. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Showing some proofs will be far better than screaming gibberish at me like a Communist Monkey; what do yah say, eh? | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, I could indeed be sourcing these 150000 “half-jews” soldiers? But I shan’t bother out of contempt for someone so lacking in intelligence and the will to research facts. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | This information is actually old news. The research confirming this fact (the approx 150,000) was published several years ago and has long been accepted by everyone of sound and mature mind. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | “I can source more than 5 millions jews killed by nazis, and jews was just some victims among all.” | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | No you can’t! You have already demonstrated you are a liar. So why would anyone want to trust whatever you post here? | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Less than half-a-million ( < 500,000) perished during the Second World War. Get over it! | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | But again, I am quite happy for you to prove (by providing source documents and statistics that stand up to critical scrutiny) what you are claiming is correct. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | I know you will not be able to do this, because hundreds have already tried very hard, and utterly failed. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | In other words you are sick in the head “Patient13”. Your brain has been poisoned by you swallowing far too much Khazar-Jewish / Neocon / Bolshevik propaganda. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | The cure may be too much for you to bear. Your withdrawal symptoms might kill you. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Alternatively, your stance may be little more than childish theatrics on behalf of furthering the Zionist goal of world domination. Sorry to disappoint you, but find another job. Very soon, serious and culpable Zionists everywhere are going to find life not worth living. They’d be better off committing suicide right now, while they still have the chance. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | P.S. I am not German, but I am Germanic. And your unprovoked attacks on us as a racial group has already sealed your fate. No mercy will be shown this time around. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842753 | Nov 26 11:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/16/germany-to-limit-spying-powers/ #bsd #surveillance | Nov 26 11:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I call doctor. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 26 11:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.engadget.com | Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more | Nov 26 11:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | The term Nazis was coined 10 years before the Nazis even rose to power. But never mind, we're clearly dealing here with one who cannot cope with facts, not even Wikipedia. | Nov 26 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/innova_scape/status/669853834034978816 | Nov 26 12:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@innova_scape: RT : A lot of frameworks are being made these days, too https://t.co/zKjTum3LK1 | Nov 26 12:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: A lot of #machinelearning frameworks are being made #freesw these days, #ibm too https://t.co/8HYSESCPUD | Nov 26 12:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | "What is interesting to this Kat is that of course it would have been open to Pfizer/Warner-Lambert to go to the EPO and seek the same amendment using the central limitation procedure." | Nov 26 12:43 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/11/yet-another-pregabalin-decision.html | Nov 26 12:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Yet another pregabalin decision - application to amend struck out as abuse of process | Nov 26 12:43 | |
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| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: the 6 million jews killed is calculated guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Jewish_deaths | Nov 26 16:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | World War II casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 26 16:35 | |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: why is a a calculated guess is complete towns/citys of jews no longer exist. Only record of the population is a train transfer records to death camps. The Germans did not just kill the jews they attempted to destroy all existance of most of these locations. | Nov 26 16:37 |
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| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: so its at least 5 million-6 million could be a lot more. | Nov 26 16:38 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: opps 4 million- 6million. | Nov 26 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/670144851636322305 | Nov 27 07:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ACROPOLITESSE: Encore une porte secrète chez Dell !! https://t.co/7qiy4G1ocX | Nov 27 07:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Second Dell backdoor root cert found https://t.co/hhq4rDAtHm avoid #dell and avoid #microsoft #windows - more like #nsa incorporated. | Nov 27 07:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/670145473496399872 https://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/670145691486986240 | Nov 27 07:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ACROPOLITESSE: La malveillance de Windows https://t.co/GZBNXLBEPA | Nov 27 07:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Microsoft Software is Malware https://t.co/PJG0mChXlR "Microsoft Windows has a universal back door... back door for remotely deleting apps" | Nov 27 07:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ACROPOLITESSE: Skype espion https://t.co/My7uUjnnsY | Nov 27 07:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #microsoft #skype not just nasty #spyware but #malware with back doors too. AVOID by all means. https://t.co/KMvkOG1C4i | Nov 27 07:49 | |
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| r_schestowitz | >>> Another week has passed. Any word from FSF or, more importantly, from | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> Red Hat? | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > yes, I was going to write about it today, | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Excellent. | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > but 2 hours just wasted | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > blocking effective DDOS attack from Baidu, so might not have time... | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/82909 | Nov 27 19:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Baidu Stages De Facto DDOS Attacks | Tux Machines | Nov 27 19:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. Sorry to hear that. At least the source is identified. I see when | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > pruning the spam false negatives [1] that the incoming requests are | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > still misidentified as the proxy. If you put one of those modules, rpaf | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > or mod_remoteip, it would be possible for Apache to block the offending | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > hosts and not waste cycles serving them. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > [1]http://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Thanks for keeping our site clean from stuff that would have Google penalise us. I'm highlighting this as TODO. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm way over my head with EPO stuff at the moment, very eager to publish ASAP. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | The Red Hat stuff isn't urgent to publish. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Techrights › Log In | Nov 27 19:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | >>> Another week has passed. Any word from FSF or, more importantly, from | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> Red Hat? | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > yes, I was going to write about it today, | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Excellent. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > but 2 hours just wasted | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > blocking effective DDOS attack from Baidu, so might not have time... | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/82909 | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. Sorry to hear that. At least the source is identified. I see when | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > pruning the spam false negatives [1] that the incoming requests are | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > still misidentified as the proxy. If you put one of those modules, rpaf | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > or mod_remoteip, it would be possible for Apache to block the offending | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > hosts and not waste cycles serving them. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > [1]http://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Thanks for keeping our site clean from stuff that would have Google penalise us. I'm highlighting this as TODO. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm way over my head with EPO stuff at the moment, very eager to publish ASAP. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | The Red Hat stuff isn't urgent to publish. | Nov 27 19:13 |
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| *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 | Nov 27 21:50 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/670353668131201025 | Nov 27 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KrapulaPhD: Councillor or counsellor ? Just asking.... https://t.co/ZvsNByR2Wo | Nov 27 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Chinese state councillor meets #EPO president https://t.co/VLc2GtfKAT #Battistelli is in #China at the moment ... tyrants unite. Epic! | Nov 27 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | Therein lies a joke too... | Nov 27 21:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/670361436057677824 | Nov 27 22:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Never mind: they wasted your time, but they wasted theirs too in the end. | Nov 27 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | I will try to write some more tonight (maybe mentioning this too), I'm sacrificing my health for EPO folks | Nov 27 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Roy, we are not experts in UK defamation law but we had a quick look at the Defamation Act of 2013 and we noticed a few things that might be relevant for your situation. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Under Section 1 of the Act, "harm to the reputation of a body that trades | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | body serious financial loss." | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | The EPO is not a "body that trades for profit" so it is not covered by that Section to begin with. Anyway, it's doubtful that they could show any "serious financial loss" from Techrights publications. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | We also noted that according to the Wikipedia page relating to the Defamation act: | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | "Non-natural persons performing a public function do not have an action in defamation against any statement concerning that function." | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_Act_2013#Jurisdiction | Nov 27 22:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Defamation Act 2013 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 27 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | If that interpretation of the law is correct - which it seems to be - then it's difficult to see how the EPO could possibly have any success in trying to initiate a defamation action against TechRights in a UK court. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | That's just our opinion but hopefully your lawyers can confirm. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Got this too from a concerned source | Nov 27 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/670366269053489152 | Nov 27 22:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: understandable; but don't let them win... https://t.co/SgDcZ9gQw6 | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: I was planning to publish about 7 articles today, but lost many hours to #ddos attacks through the day. Very demoralising. | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jameswesb/status/670364388868628483 | Nov 27 22:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jameswesb: https://t.co/LUGde7YcZw | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mobile.twitter.com | Twitter | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | Thanks you for supporting me. Very much appreciated, Glyn. | Nov 27 22:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/670370367060492288 | Nov 27 22:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: @schestowitz least I can do...keep up the great work | Nov 27 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670374677043392512 | Nov 27 23:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Had. | Nov 27 23:03 | |
| schestowitz | Only if they lost their job... or resigned. | Nov 27 23:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670377995387969536 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670379114315038725 | Nov 27 23:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Not really. At the bottom of the management hierarchy. | Nov 27 23:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz a If I understand correctly, the management used to be very shallow. It seems bloated,now, me layers added for no gain. | Nov 27 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670379398151970816 | Nov 27 23:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Management to make to managers feel good. Management trust sees managers as the only people with status. | Nov 27 23:13 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: the lawyer offered me the advice and work pro bono, decided to give me text to write in response, to which to add with update... what a great guy | Nov 28 00:47 |
| MinceR | nice | Nov 28 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | he's eating them alive | Nov 28 01:10 |
| schestowitz | he's one of the best guys in the UK in this area | Nov 28 01:10 |
| schestowitz | and they ran away after his strongly-worded letters | Nov 28 01:10 |
| schestowitz | he threatened to sue them | Nov 28 01:10 |
| schestowitz | early part http://techrights.org/2015/11/27/slapp-and-epo/ | Nov 28 01:11 |
| schestowitz | more to come later | Nov 28 01:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO Did Not Want to Take Down One Techrights Article, It Wanted to Take Down Many Articles Using Intimidation, SLAPPing, and Psychological Manipulation Late on a Friday Night | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/obqxp ] | Nov 28 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > > > Covering only customers and not downstream users, it is not a good thing, | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > > > but it may not do a lot of harm. | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > > Hi, | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > > Has there been any progress on this case? | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > Eben Moglen told me it doesn't violate GPLv3. | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > Other than getting that information, I don't know what progress | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | > we could hope for. | Nov 28 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Assuming the case won't go any further than this, are you OK with me quoting you on that in order to set the record straight on the Microsoft-Red Hat situation? | Nov 28 01:25 |
| MinceR | is that question aimed at me? | Nov 28 01:26 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 28 01:36 |
| schestowitz | RMS | Nov 28 01:36 |
| schestowitz | I will soon do an article about it | Nov 28 01:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 28 02:08 |
| schestowitz | 'Oh, thx for info! I could not connect and was ready to rely that with the France gvt…" | Nov 28 02:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6861187 | Nov 28 02:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #freenode is still under DDOS attacks. Yesterday is was bad, today it's even worse. The whole network is unusable. They claim DDOS. | Nov 28 02:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6860742 | Nov 28 02:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If reckless consumerism was to abruptly halt in the West, the suffering party would probably be #china (& >non-producing< Western entities) | Nov 28 02:11 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 02:11 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure of that, I think that economies that actually produce something tangible have more real economies that the ones that are mostly services. | Nov 28 02:11 |
| schestowitz | If nobody buys your food at least you have a food surplus. If nobody pays royalties for your patents, will having a patent “surplus” be of any good or use? | Nov 28 02:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 02:11 |
| schestowitz | "Ask the farmers who have problems selling their milk at the moment how much good this surplus does them." | Nov 28 02:11 |
| schestowitz | "At least milk is drinkable, I wonder if someone could survive on patents." | Nov 28 02:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | This is precisely why I wonder if the US understands what is at stake having China as enemy. Let’s leave for a moment the facts that Chinese economy and army are bigger than the US ones and that China also has nukes. | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | So the US goes to war against China and that means no more trade. China will lose a big market and will have to deal with a surplus of goods like electronics, furniture, garments and whatnot. Poor Chinese. | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | The US only will lose the ability to keep using Chinese factories, Chinese workers and Chinese natural resources and will keep important things like patents, financial services, software and lots of untouchable, non-edible things. And of course Chinese are so dumb that will have no idea not how to imitate those things, but not even how to steal them and reproduce almost for free. | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Everybody knows that making copies of software is a lot more difficult and expensive than making copies of television sets. | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Good point | Nov 28 02:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6859007 | Nov 28 02:14 |
| schestowitz | "i think thats bad" | Nov 28 02:14 |
| schestowitz | "PARIS♥' | Nov 28 02:14 |
| schestowitz | "eso que isis" | Nov 28 02:14 |
| schestowitz | "MICROSOFT? BOOM' | Nov 28 02:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: " #Microsoft spent millions portraying Google as a greedy and amoral data marauder." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/26/microsoft_renamed_data_slurper_reinserted_windows_10/ #astroturfing | Nov 28 02:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Sneaky Microsoft renamed its data slurper before sticking it back in Windows 10 • The Register | Nov 28 02:14 | |
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| r_schestowitz | > You might find this amusing ... (click on the photo of the author at the | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > top of the article): | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > Bad Reputation – how can a claimant’s character affect damages for | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > defamation? | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://defamationlawblog.fieldfisher.com/bad-reputation-how-can-a-claimants-character-affect-damages-for-defamation/ | Nov 28 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | How wrote this one week after he sent me the first threatening letter, so he had probably been 'researching' the topic before blogging about it. | Nov 28 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | Nasty guy... | Nov 28 08:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-defamationlawblog.fieldfisher.com | Bad Reputation – how can a claimant’s character affect damages for defamation? « Scandalous! Defamation Law Blog | Nov 28 08:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/670549922605867008\ | Nov 28 10:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Pirate forced to make anti-piracy film to avoid being sued https://t.co/5DGfdvStEa #propaganda by coercion | Nov 28 10:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theinquirer.net | Pirate forced to make anti-piracy film to avoid being sued- The Inquirer | Nov 28 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | "Hi, do you think is safe to exchange info in here?" | Nov 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz | For the safety of the person and any persons mentioned in the message (some of whom not subjected to reprisal or interrogation) it would be best to use anonymity, encryption, etc. I think that CRG might be able to gain access, maybe through GCHQ, to sites like 'social' media. http://techrights.org/2015/10/25/techrights-doc-drop/ | Nov 28 11:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | How to Securely Provide Techrights With Information, Documents | Techrights | Nov 28 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/brancaleggio/status/670564238281342976 | Nov 28 11:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@brancaleggio: RT@schestowitz: "The use of eGovernment social and health services offered by the city of Helsinki (Finland) is… https://t.co/BRCJFh6CPy | Nov 28 11:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "The use of eGovernment social and health services offered by the city of Helsinki (Finland) is increasing. " https://t.co/xvLgRUCD3b | Nov 28 11:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | <p align="center"> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | <img src="" alt="" /> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | </p> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | <em><b>Summary</b>: </em> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "I encrypt using gpg keys with thunderbird, would that do for a start? like exchanging other addresses or numbers without being found straight away for instance..." | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I just need the e-mail or public key, I'll send send mine and we can encrypt both ways | Nov 28 17:22 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/27/1450229 | Nov 28 17:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/27/1450229 ) | Nov 28 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | >> > | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > Some rather low quality comments in there. It'll like another /. (post | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > Dice takeover) | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > Yeah, this one got hit by some poor posts. Unfortunately there are some | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > regular commenters in there with crap posts. Probably the best one | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > though is the anonymous one about needed to constantly defend freedoms | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > or they will disappear. Also it doesn't help that M$ has been able to | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > take over so many of the mainstream sites that they've moved the center | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > of the field their direction. | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Right now even the EPO is buying the media. In my latest article I compared to to the Gates Foundation. | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6857618 | Nov 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "The oneplus two makes sence' | Nov 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Android Black Friday 2015 Deals https://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/11/25/best-android-black-friday-2015-deals/ #android #linux | Nov 28 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gottabemobile.com | Best Android Black Friday 2015 Deals | Nov 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6864714 | Nov 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "A minor release of my C utility library, including some changes required for the previous release" http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2015-11/001.html #freesw | Nov 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Hmmm… must be C minor then." | Nov 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: rra-c-util 5.9 (2015-11-27) | Nov 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/E-flat-major_c-minor.svg/120px-E-flat-major_c-minor.svg.png | Nov 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "ba-dum-tss.wav" | Nov 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6863882 | Nov 28 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Articles to come at #techrights : Richard Stallman and Eben Moglen on #redhat #microsoft deal. Then a new #epo scandal (multi-part). | Nov 28 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Ishe aware that Trisquel has a software on it that’s a canonical product?" | Nov 28 18:05 |
| schestowitz | How does this relate to Canonical? | Nov 28 18:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | I can tell you are putting a lot of blood, sweat and tears toward a cause you beleive in. I don't know what it is you face with the EPO but I'm sure it is indimidating. I just want to say "good work" and keep it up. | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Oh you made soylentnews again too. | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | yes, someone told me this morning. Thanks for the kind words | Nov 28 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/668419467211382784 | Nov 22 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/668453077603733508 | Nov 22 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842499 | Nov 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "It’s crazy this and seriously compromises the security!!!" | Nov 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | In the name of 'national security' (tight control by the state) | Nov 22 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6843157 | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "suffocating freedoms ,people can hardly breathe with all the pollution" | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | he said some websites violated Chinese law. | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | “For instance, if a website refers to ‘two Chinas’ or refers to mainland China and Taiwan as two independent regions, we believe that violates China’s anti-secession law, as well as other laws,” he said, according to Reuters news agency. | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | He urged the websites to “comply with China’s concerns and not do things contrary to Chinese law”. | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7785248.stm | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 22 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Wow, I didn't know it was THIS bad. I got very nasty racist attacks (worst i ever got) when I wrote about Taiwan being separate from China. | Nov 22 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Bad reporting about tech is not a surprise either. It did not matter so much when Microsoft invaded Byte Magazine in the 1980s. No one really minded when Microsoft Jack spewed complete nonsense on Guardian readers and other supposedly reputable papers. | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The problem is that everyone depends on this non free garbage in their pocket. I suppose that it's a surprise that what once could be corrupt and ignored is now front page stuff that should be much better. | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842505 | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "I remember than in 2008 there was a famous case of stabbings at Akihabara in Japan, I almost witnessed it. This criminal went to a convenience store/supermarket, bought a knife and then went to stab people. It was mentioned regulating kitchen knifes, but Japanese were not so dumb to fall for that." | Nov 22 18:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842548 | Nov 22 18:18 |
| schestowitz | it would have worked in here, I think. For some knives to be purchased here you need to be a certain age... kitchen knives | Nov 22 18:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842273 | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "Ciscos reputation is dead …" | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | But there is so many people with cisco cert who want to config cisco and only cisco gear, instead of learning how to config a *nix/linux OS. | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Fuck cisco. | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, F Cisco | Nov 22 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "MIT think tanks kill more people in the world with its world politics ideas than all the bombs of the world, that is my personal opinion." | Nov 22 18:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6837428 | Nov 22 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "Also all U.S. university think tanks," | Nov 22 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842772 | Nov 22 18:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "This is much like the anti-Semitic arguments against letting Jews into America during the Holocaust." http://blogs.dailynews.com/friendlyfire/2015/11/21/syrian-refugees-domestic-spying-red-herring-served/ #syria | Nov 22 18:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blogs.dailynews.com | Syrian Refugees & Domestic Spying: How Do You Like Your Red Herring Served? | Friendly Fire | Nov 22 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | "They always find a reason for NOT to help…" | Nov 22 18:26 |
| schestowitz | usually personal selfish reasons that place convenience before ubuntu | Nov 22 18:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842217 | Nov 22 18:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Watch what #london media says about @snowden http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/620270/Traitor-Edward-Snowden-taught-ISIS-Paris-terrorists-avoid-detection-NSA-CIA-John-Brennan appalling, if not libellous | Nov 22 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | "On the other hand, if the US taught moderated Syrian terrorist on warfare and later many of them defected to become full terrorists that is fine." | Nov 22 18:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.express.co.uk | 'Traitor' Edward Snowden 'taught ISIS Paris terrorists how to avoid detection' | World | News | Daily Express | Nov 22 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | Oh, THIS the media in London won't cover. You need to pursue alternative news sites after your 9 to 5 (at best) hard job.... | Nov 22 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841042 | Nov 22 18:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You can feel truly unsafe when your #police (or generally authorities) can make stuff up about why they murdered you; dead can't testify. | Nov 22 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Its been that way for a long time. #blacklivesmatter is the first real challenge I’ve seen in years." | Nov 22 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841067 | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | "Thanks for applying a single standard and posting this, Dr. Roy." | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Promoting #freespeech and #freesw is "“harming state security” | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Who said that Roy? | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 22 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I quoted Ito on the "“harming state security” part | Nov 22 18:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 22 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6835743 | Nov 22 18:32 |
| schestowitz | "200,000 tapes is not a trivial expense. The madness was in not recognizing historic footage, no matter how poor quality it was." | Nov 22 18:32 |
| schestowitz | so many tapes for one single trip? | Nov 22 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moon landing tapes got erased, #NASA admits http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/20/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090720 bloody weird... | Nov 22 18:32 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.reuters.com | Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits | Reuters | Nov 22 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841985 | Nov 22 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It’s official: NSA did keep its e-mail metadata program after it “ended” in 2011 http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/11/nsa-replaced-secret-e-mail-metadata-program-with-more-expansive-tools/ law? Naa, we don't obey that. | Nov 22 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | "The tower crumbles." | Nov 22 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.co.uk | It’s official: NSA did keep its e-mail metadata program after it “ended” in 2011 | Ars Technica UK | Nov 22 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fmguitars/status/668496134457937924 | Nov 22 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fmguitars: @schestowitz @Snowden Neither before or after Snowden, yet they blame him. Hmmm??? | Nov 22 18:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842753 | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Germany has already experienced totalitarism, could explain | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | And germans are bored to be the Europa bad guy, raiding your economy, cutting off your budget, spying everybody and teaching you about morale and strictness, too | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841071 | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "gimp rocks!" | Nov 22 18:34 |
| schestowitz | been loving it since 2001 | Nov 22 18:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #gimp has just turned 20 and has a nice new Web site to celebrate with http://www.gimp.org/ I use it daily, wife does too | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gimp.org | GIMP - GNU Image Manipulation Program | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://fortune.com/2014/04/03/whats-eating-florian-mueller/ | Nov 22 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fortune.com | What’s eating Florian Mueller? - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/ob3ur ] | Nov 22 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-opponent-cheers-delay-in-mysql-decision/ | Nov 22 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.zdnet.com | Oracle opponent cheers delay in mySQL decision | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/ob3us ] | Nov 22 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | a more classic photo http://techrights.org/2013/07/10/florian-muller-deception/ | Nov 22 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Too Many Lies From Florian Müller | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/el6zd ] | Nov 22 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | 2005 https://euobserver.com/opinion/19714 | Nov 22 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-euobserver.com | Parliament should pass resolution on software patents | Nov 22 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Many computer programmers are afraid that software patents can be used against them by larger competitors and product less entities, and point out that today's largest software companies became what they are without owning a single patent for many years." | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | I guess he was about 35 at the time | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | After the lobbying frenzy in the build-up to the 6 July vote on software patents, MEPs must have needed this year's summer break even more than usual. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Now that the parliament resumes its work, different ideas will be discussed as to what should happen next. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | In my opinion, the outright rejection of the Council's common position was the best procedural decision at the time. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | As President Borrell said in a press conference, it was "a milestone in the history of a parliament that lives up to its task and exercises its rights". | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | He also left no doubt that the parliament thereby had hit back at the Council and the Commission for ignoring its request for a fresh start. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Europe is fortunate, and many in the USA and Asia are jealous, because article 52 of the European Patent Convention expressly excludes software from patentability. That's why we have hardly any software patent litigation over here. The parliament preserved that major competitive advantage. | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | 2006 http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/51054.html | Nov 22 19:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxinsider.com | Patent Activist Florian Mueller Shares EU Secrets | Business | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/ob3uz ] | Nov 22 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | interview | Nov 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | patent lawyers groomed him a few years ago http://www.managingip.com/Article/3060661/Florian-Mller-Foss-Patents-The-go-to-man-of-the-smartphone-wars.html | Nov 22 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.managingip.com | Florian Müller, Foss Patents: The go-to man of the smartphone wars | Managing Intellectual Property [ http://ur1.ca/ob3v4 ] | Nov 22 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | Now his agenda confuses me http://www.managingip.com/Article/3060661/Florian-Mller-Foss-Patents-The-go-to-man-of-the-smartphone-wars.html | Nov 22 19:06 |
| schestowitz | I think he's trying to reinvent himself | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | as he's in no man's land | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | "When Florian Müller appeared on this list seven years ago, most patent attorneys regarded him as an adversary. The computer whizz kid-turned-entrepreneur was a leading force in the fight against software patents, helping activists defeat the EU's plans for a computer-implemented inventions directive. Now he's the leading source of data and analysis on another patent battle: the multi-front global smartphone wars." | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_M%C3%BCller | Nov 22 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Florian Müller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ob3v5 ] | Nov 22 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " a consultant for Microsoft and Oracle" | Nov 22 19:08 |
| schestowitz | "Early on, from 1985 to 1998, he was a computer magazine writer and consultant for companies, helping with collaborations between software companies. In 2004 he founded the NoSoftwarePatents campaign and in 2007 he provided some consultancy in relation to football policy." | Nov 22 19:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | In 1985, Müller started writing articles for German computer magazines.[3] A year later, at age 16, he became Germany's youngest computer book author.[4] | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | From 1987 to 1998, he specialized on publishing and distribution cooperations between US and European software companies. He initiated and managed such alliances in various market segments, including productivity software, utility software, educational software, and computer games. As a consultant to and representative of Blizzard Entertainment, Müller was involved in the marketing campaigns for WarCraft II,[5] Diablo I[6] and StarCraft I[7] | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | . | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6840987 | Nov 22 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/667949017557430273 | Nov 22 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | "What? Will Jeff Bezos be unable to go abroad?" | Nov 22 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@declanm: It's almost like the U.S. government is about to turn your right to travel (or emigrate) into a privilege. https://t.co/Sshao2rSX3 | Nov 22 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Might have to be deported to Mexico... | Nov 22 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/metacode/status/668530295684136960 | Nov 22 21:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@metacode: Thanks 4 RTs @chunkymark @schestowitz @radiantview @rogersurfacings @gnomeoffender @3PHarmony @jazzbington @redlocal @PaulEMetz @brand_candy | Nov 22 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | "the best" | Nov 22 21:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841071 | Nov 22 21:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #gimp has just turned 20 and has a nice new Web site to celebrate with http://www.gimp.org/ I use it daily, wife does too | Nov 22 21:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gimp.org | GIMP - GNU Image Manipulation Program | Nov 22 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | A little update about SLEPPonia | Nov 22 21:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6837426 | Nov 22 21:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Radicalism is on the rise. Surely the foreign policy of the West at least contributes to that. But helps sell weapons ($). | Nov 22 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | ""Radical conservative" does seem to be an oxymoron, but I think there can be a radical step backwards, to a real or imagined past. I think the christian fundamentalists and the neocons are also on the "radical right", not just the Islamic extremists. Reagan, Thatcher and Bush were radical in their regressiveness." | Nov 22 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | ' "Alongside a very royal welcome, selfies with Sergio Aguero and supping pints of ale in the Prime Minister’s local, one part of the Chinese state visit that garnered slightly less attention was the third UK-China IP Symposium, held at the Royal Society. Although not attended by “Xi Dada” himself, attendees included higher members of the Chinese judiciary as well as representatives of some of China’s largest companies, and promised | Nov 22 23:00 |
| schestowitz | to be a valuable insight into current IP protection in China." | Nov 22 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/ | Nov 22 23:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat | Nov 22 23:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/23/sport/sergio-aguero-david-cameron-xi-jinping/ | Nov 22 23:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-edition.cnn.com | Did David Cameron photobomb Sergio Aguero and Xi Jinping? - CNN.com | Nov 22 23:01 | |
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| MinceR | 200216 < schestowitz> MinceR: http://fortune.com/2014/04/03/whats-eating-florian-mueller/ | Nov 22 23:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fortune.com | What’s eating Florian Mueller? - Fortune | Nov 22 23:21 | |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 22 23:21 |
| MinceR | crApple fanboys butthurt because florian is not enough of a crApple fanboy for them :> | Nov 22 23:21 |
| schestowitz | seems so these days | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | sometimes he slams their patents now | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | he defects a lot | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | before he worked for microsoft he was pro-FOSS | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | later on her changed | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and then he created his blog | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | in which he attacked IBM | Nov 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and helpd a Microsoft proxy, turbohercules | Nov 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | whcih later got money from MS, IIRC | Nov 22 23:29 |
| MinceR | flipfloprian | Nov 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6841067 | Nov 22 23:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promoting #freespeech and #freesw is ""harming state security" in #syria apparently... punishment? Death. http://joi.ito.com/weblog/2015/11/13/urgent-reports-.html | Nov 22 23:35 | |
| schestowitz | "Good question, harry.' | Nov 22 23:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> joi.ito.com | Urgent: Reports that Bassel Khartabil has been sentenced to death - Joi Ito's Web | Nov 22 23:35 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: whatever pays the bill, I think | Nov 22 23:35 |
| schestowitz | you saw me asking Jan about him.. | Nov 22 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat once paid FM too | Nov 22 23:35 |
| MinceR | did he respond? | Nov 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | he did, I quoted in IRC | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | right now it's with the FSF | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | here it is: | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | "" | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Dear FSF licensing folks, | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | As discussed earlier in IRC (freenode), I have been pursuing answers from Red Hat regarding an urgent matter. I previously interviewed their CEO regarding patents and last week I spoke to a fairly senior person from Red Hat (unnamed for his own protection), for the third time this month. I wrote about 10 articles on this subject and it led to others writing about it as well, including some prominent bloggers. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | To put it concisely, Red Hat signed a deal with Microsoft which not only involved technical work but also what they call patent "standstill". Who is this "standstill" for? Apparently Red Hat and its customers. I strongly doubt, especially in light of Alice v. CLS Bank, that a "standstill" should be needed. Red Hat does not threaten to sue Microsoft, whereas Microsoft did in the past threaten Red Hat (even publicly). This leaves those outside | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat in an awkward position and ever since this deal I have taken note of at least two companies being coerced by Microsoft using patents (over "Android" or "Linux" [sic]) or sued by one of its patent trolls, e.g. Intellectual Ventures. This isn't really a "standstill". It's more like the notorious "peace of mind" that Novell was after back in 2006. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat has also admitted to me that it is still pursuing some software patents in the USPTO -- a fact that does not surprising me, especially giving the soaring market cap of RHT and the growing budget. This serves to contradict what people like Rob Tiller say to the courts; it shows double standards and no principled lead by example. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | I have asked the FSF's Joshua if it had looked into the patent agreement between Red Hat and Microsoft. Their lawyers in this case, Mr. Piana and Mr. Tiller (probably amongst others whom we don't know about yet), would probably claim and even insist that it's GPL-compatible, but the wording in the FAQ make it look exclusionary and there's no transparency, so one cannot verify these claims. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | We need to understand what Red Hat agreed on with Microsoft on as Microsoft can use this behind closed doors against other companies, for pressure/leverage. I am genuinely worried and fellow journalists who focus on GNU/Linux (Sean Michael Kerner for instance) tell me that they are too. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | The analysis and the voice of the FSF may be needed at this stage. I have politely urged Red Hat for a number of weeks to become more transparent, whereupon some in the company said they had escalated these requests, but evidently nothing is being done, hence I feel the need to turn to the FSF. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | I would gladly provide additional information that I have upon request. | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | With kind regards, | Nov 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 22 23:39 |
| oiaohm | patent standstill is more like a cease fire. Neither side has agreed to disarm. | Nov 22 23:59 |
| MinceR | and m$ agreed not to sue redcrap's clients but not anyone else who uses the same gpl-licensed code | Nov 23 00:00 |
| MinceR | and redcrap agreed to this agreement | Nov 23 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Note the agreement does not say Redhat or Microsoft cannot challenge each other patents. | Nov 23 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Just they cannot go after each other clients. | Nov 23 00:05 |
| oiaohm | This is not like the Novell deal. | Nov 23 00:05 |
| MinceR | which won't stop redcrap from telling clients they might get in trouble for using gnu/linux if they don't get a service contract from redcrap | Nov 23 00:05 |
| MinceR | s/clients/prospective &/ | Nov 23 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Also redhat is sneaky. | Nov 23 00:07 |
| MinceR | yes, but they've shown their true colors already | Nov 23 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft has to place Redhat in Asure. | Nov 23 00:08 |
| MinceR | big deal | Nov 23 00:08 |
| MinceR | nobody uses azure anyway | Nov 23 00:08 |
| oiaohm | So bringing GPLv3 and other patent license clauses against Microsoft. | Nov 23 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Because Microsoft is running the software. | Nov 23 00:08 |
| MinceR | i guess that could benefit the rest of us | Nov 23 00:09 |
| MinceR | then again, that would happen by azure (or any other m$ infrastructure) running GPLv3 code anyway | Nov 23 00:09 |
| oiaohm | The agreement was for the complete Redhat distrobution. | Nov 23 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Including what ever Redhat decided to add in the future. | Nov 23 00:10 |
| oiaohm | So projects with patent clause licenses redhat can now protect from Microsoft by digging Microsoft into a hole. | Nov 23 00:11 |
| oiaohm | So there is some benift from the deal we would have liked to seen more. | Nov 23 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu on Asure Microsoft could choose to remove packages or forbid packages. | Nov 23 00:12 |
| MinceR | thus making azure even less appealing to users | Nov 23 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Remember if you are not provide a patent protect license open source project you can attack the users of it. | Nov 23 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes Redhat did win a little against Microsoft in this deal. But no where near as much as we need. | Nov 23 00:14 |
| oiaohm | BSD/... The more librial license stuff gains nothing from the Redhat deal. | Nov 23 00:14 |
| MinceR | and we all lost against both of them a bit in this deal | Nov 23 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Redhat maintained their right to challage patents. Novell gave that right up in their deal. | Nov 23 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Over all Microsoft lost more ground out the deal than Redhat did. | Nov 23 00:16 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR if redhat deal include the clause like Novell where patents could not be challaged I would be worried. | Nov 23 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Also the novell deal did not include a clause where Microsoft would have to be actively using the Novell product. | Nov 23 00:21 |
| oiaohm | I wonder if Microsoft has though through how much GPLv3 and other licenses like it will under mine the patents they have. | Nov 23 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | re le echos TRANSLATION, pasted here, anon'ed: | Nov 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, | Nov 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Re: Deletion of PSA reference in Les Échos. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > WOW, fantastic, bravo Roy, excellent spotting! I couldn't have seen it | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > myself, as I was only interested in the EPO part. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sending you a PDF of the article as it stood on 20151120 02:53 UTC. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > [21:53 EST - the time stamps betray the location where the file was | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > created, so DON'T publish it, at least not as is]. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > The printing templates aren't very good, and the PDF formatting is | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > pretty shitty, with a picture overlaying the text. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > To be sure I didn't lose any information when I created the PDF, I | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > revisited the article, later at 1549 UTC and stored its contents | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > directly in a text file. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > Both are included with this message. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I find that I take snapshots of web content increasingly often, like | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > some journalists do as soon as they see a bit of interesting | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > information. I should make it even more systematic. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I'm considering to provide you with a translation, but only of the | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > EPO-related part, if I can find the time. I'm doing a lot of things too | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > these days. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | >> I will write about Les Echoes today, having not received any additional | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | >> > input ;-) | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > What kind of input? | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I could slap up a translation of the first part, that shouldn't take TOO | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > much time. But while I was typing I saw that you already published. Do | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > you still want one? You get the essence with automatic translation. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I could also translate that Dutch article, if you haven't found anyone. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > I looked at it, and it's not too long. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > The third part about PSA is saying that the shareholders fired the PSA CEO. | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:26 |
| schestowitz | > It's apparently old news [2013], so why? | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > Could it be that the concept of a controlling body [shareholders or AC] | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > firing their creature to be shocking for some? | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | > The beast is meowing, I must go. | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | I thought we might have a human translation of the EPO part, even though it must be quite a hogwash (which I guess is what we wanted to show because biased coverage is the gripe). | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | The Dutch article, being coverage of massive protests, might be worth adding to the 'trove' of evidence, if it's available in English... a lot of people still access 'old' EPO articles and this probably includes politicians. | Nov 23 11:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842753 | Nov 23 12:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/16/germany-to-limit-spying-powers/ #bsd #surveillance | Nov 23 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 12:20 |
| schestowitz | @Patient13 … the “totalitarianism” you refer to was nothing like what we are seeing today throughout much of the Western world, which is in fact modeled on “Jewish Bolshevism”. | Nov 23 12:20 |
| schestowitz | What happened in Germany, between 1933 and 1939 is that a people came together willingly, and happily. Never in human history has there been a happier and healthier people than those many millions of ethnic Germans who lived under National Socialism. | Nov 23 12:20 |
| schestowitz | Don’t live like a Pavlov Dog, Instead, do proper research and learn your German history accurately, like a man, and not like a Puppet. | Nov 23 12:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.engadget.com | Germany scales back its spying while other nations want more | Nov 23 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | @Mission: i know very well this part of history. My grand-parents have lived it, they have faced nazi, they have seen how they act, what they are. Not all of them have survived, and they were even jews, communists, slavs or other “untermenschen” | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | In fact, my family is more “aryan” than a lot of wannabe nazi like you. That’s why my familiy forgives Germans for this; nazism was the Europa’s shame | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | That’s the first time i use asshole on diaspora, but that’s you are. Drown into your hate, loser | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Germany "happy" under Nazis... like Russians happy under Stalin | Nov 23 12:22 |
| schestowitz | "Capitulates sounds as if Cameron did not want to do it but had no other choice." | Nov 23 12:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6842872 | Nov 23 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: David Cameron capitulates to terror, proposes Britain's USA Patriot Act http://boingboing.net/2015/11/17/david-cameron-capitulates-to-t.html #cameron and #tories destroy us | Nov 23 12:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> boingboing.net | David Cameron capitulates to terror, proposes Britain's USA Patriot Act / Boing Boing | Nov 23 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6840987 | Nov 23 12:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/667949017557430273 | Nov 23 12:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@declanm: It's almost like the U.S. government is about to turn your right to travel (or emigrate) into a privilege. https://t.co/Sshao2rSX3 | Nov 23 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | "No, he might have a good life like McAfee in Belize." | Nov 23 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Is he still there? | Nov 23 12:29 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > https://torrentfreak.com/google-asked-to-remove-1500-pirate-links-per-minute-151122/ | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > Again Google should be charging a hefty processing fee, with additional | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> > penalties for false takedown requests. | Nov 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> There are clearly bots doing this; the only way for Google to respond is to use bots too and it means that requests are almost immediate bans. Welcome SOPA!! | Nov 23 13:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-torrentfreak.com | Google Asked to Remove 1,500 "Pirate Links" Per Minute - TorrentFreak | Nov 23 13:43 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: RMS: | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > > It is effectively a technical collaboration which also involves a | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > > ceasefire regarding patents. | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > Covering only customers and not downstream users, it is not a good thing, | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > but it may not do a lot of harm. | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | That's his stance | Nov 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I guess they'll look further into it | Nov 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | the licensing people | Nov 23 18:14 |
| MinceR | so he's really given up | Nov 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I hope that a thorough look into it will help remove uncertainty and get some hard answers. Right now it's too vague or me and some fellow developers to conclude anything from. | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: sort of... | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | but not for sure | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | it's also addressed to FSF | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | he's just given his quick take | Nov 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | > Here's the translation of the NRC article. Took me about 90 minutes. | Nov 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | > The French one will follow later. | Nov 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Just got some EPo stuff... | Nov 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/karthik_ak/status/668863561972641792 | Nov 23 18:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@karthik_ak: @schestowitz but that guy is right, almost everytime | Nov 23 18:51 | |
| schestowitz | The FSF is on it... | Nov 23 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > FYI, the latest dope circulated today. | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > Not to be published as is, because of time stamps, metadata and all. | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > It hadn't occured to me how insidious the expression "ennemis de | Nov 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | > l'intérieur" was. | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sending it as a PDF, as the encryption software barfs on the HTML | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > formatting. | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | PDF is fine as long as I can copy-paste. This perfectly fits a draft I was already working on for today... | Nov 23 18:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/marcwielaert/status/668865897092747264 | Nov 23 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@marcwielaert: @nrc https://t.co/PbNd0NrS5Q | Nov 23 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents NRC (Dutch Evening Newspaper) Speaks About EPO’s Refusal to Accept Court Orders From The Hague https://t.co/WYgp5T2rBP | Nov 23 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | > On 23.11.2015 13:52, Roy Schestowitz wrote: | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/2015/11/23/nrc-on-epo-and-the-hague/ | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | NRC Handelsblad (Dutch Evening Newspaper) Speaks About EPO’s Refusal to Accept Court Orders From The Hague | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/obbh4 ] | Nov 23 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | > I noticed a couple of typos or minor improvements... [I tried to | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > maintain the original text, even though I felt that another English word | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > would be more appropriate. Eg: "consultation" is weaker that "bargaining"] | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Before | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > After | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > union is developing in a hard confrontation. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > union is developing into a hard confrontation. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Beside the head office in Munich, there is a branch at c, among other sites. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Beside the head office in Munich, there is a branch at The Hague, among | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > other sites. | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > The Netherlands want to be a good host for international organisations, | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > The Netherlands want to be a good host country for international | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > organisations, | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > ------------- | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > I must leave now, bye. | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | All fixed, all thanks to you. | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Hoping to have 6 EPO articles by day's end... long night ahead. | Nov 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | the fact that no one dared to forward this email in <em>electronic form</em> to the staff | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | representation speaks volumes about the atmosphere of fear of retaliation that | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | currently prevails in the Office, and the total lack of trust of staff in any meaningful | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | form of data protection in the Office; | Nov 23 21:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/668894317478563840 | Nov 23 21:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents LMFAO !...or should I write it in extenso ? | Nov 23 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668893859410264064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668893959876399104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668893987290353665 | Nov 23 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The Bogus Narrative Floated by #EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent https://t.co/i4Ik2d5ftC | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | The Bogus Narrative Floated by EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent | Techrights | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @glynmoody The Bogus Narrative Floated by EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent https://t.co/i4Ik2d5ftC | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents The Bogus Narrative Floated by EPO Management: Our Judges and Examiners Are Armed and Violent https://t.co/i4Ik2d5ftC | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668905397487542272 | Nov 23 21:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers https://t.co/YsRZ7mhrDx #epo #europe | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers | Techrights | Nov 23 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668906679195537410 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668910666883964928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/668910623007375365 | Nov 23 21:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights https://t.co/RbMsk8Cr7C mostly #epo these days | Nov 23 21:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Nov 23 21:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers https://t.co/YsRZ7mhrDx #epo | Nov 23 21:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Gross Violation of Workers’ Rights in EPO: Denial of Christmas Vacation/Leave for Slower Workers https://t.co/YsRZ7mhrDx #epo | Nov 23 21:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6840987 | Nov 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | "No, he had such a good life that police finally went after him." | Nov 23 23:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/667949017557430273 | Nov 23 23:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@declanm: It's almost like the U.S. government is about to turn your right to travel (or emigrate) into a privilege. https://t.co/Sshao2rSX3 | Nov 23 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6847875 | Nov 23 23:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Installing #enlightenment as I have grown tired after 7 months of endless frustration with #kf5 - #plasma5 just not ready. #kde | Nov 23 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Or maybe MATE, Cinnamon, Pantheon?" | Nov 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | You should try Gnome (no troll here). | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Even I like Kde (as an ex kde fan) and above all Chakra, I love Gnome3. | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | I'll try some other ones... | Nov 23 23:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6835743 | Nov 23 23:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Moon landing tapes got erased, #NASA admits http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/20/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090720 bloody weird... | Nov 23 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | "The moon landing tapes were part of a 200,000 tape batch. I don’t know what was on the other tapes, but the moon landing and other interesting tapes had no place there." | Nov 23 23:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.reuters.com | Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits | Reuters | Nov 23 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6846942 | Nov 23 23:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With about 5 cracking attempts per second at #techrights no wonder the site is slow or inaccessible. #microsoft #windows botnets. | Nov 23 23:49 | |
| schestowitz | "It works quite good from here" | Nov 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Filtering better now | Nov 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | http://fossforce.com/2015/11/devil-bsd-leaving-linux-behind/#comment-15916 | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6845675 | Nov 23 23:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | The Devil & BSD: Leaving Linux Behind | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/obc9o ] | Nov 23 23:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Devil & #BSD : Leaving #Linux Behind http://fossforce.com/2015/11/devil-bsd-leaving-linux-behind/ looking for a new adventure | Nov 23 23:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fossforce.com | The Devil & BSD: Leaving Linux Behind | FOSS Force | Nov 23 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | “I prefer my great and historic figures to have a high degree of grace and leadership skills, and understand and accept the gravity and responsibility the glorious burden of being a historical figure entails, and then act appropriately.” | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I would like a pony. | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6846891 | Nov 23 23:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #techrights down for 1.5 hours today not because of many readers but because of MASSIVE number of cracking attempts | Nov 23 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | "A nasty way of being popular." | Nov 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Wish I was popular... and without being targeted by cyber attacks... | Nov 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Marjolein Katsma | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Nov 23 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | Nov 23 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | 'marjoleink' on Identica (when it was still using StatusNet); 'mk' in the current !fediverse. | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | - Marjolein Katsma | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668952523445633024 | Nov 24 00:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @schestowitz @MLKstudios That's our next president you're mocking, Mr. Hebrewitz. | Nov 24 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | Rump fans... | Nov 24 00:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668953399207956480 | Nov 24 00:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz Trump has the appeal of a used car salesman. He wears a fine suit when he lies to you. | Nov 24 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/668951464639913984 | Nov 24 00:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Ho ho ho :D | Nov 24 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668953797528449024 https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668954612490088449 https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668955048311787520 https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668955312934621184 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz He's the only one for ending the wetback tidal wave & stopped the outsourcing destruction of the middle class. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz Obama returned more Mexicans than any prez before and many are "self deporting". Their numbers are decreasing. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz Obama returned more....lol. That shitbag & ALL Dems love wetbacks because they know who they'll vote for. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz He also employs many foreign workers in his hotels. All he can do is bloviate. #Trump | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MLKstudios/status/668955597669203969 https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668955834521554944 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MLKstudios: @StomptheHook @schestowitz Time to turn off your talk radio show and switch to a music station. Enjoy some cool jazz. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz I don't listen to that shit: I'm not a patriotard, I'm a White nationalist. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StomptheHook/status/668955553473794048 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StomptheHook: @MLKstudios @schestowitz Yeah, he's a windbag. They all are. Unlike the rest he's actually interesting. | Nov 24 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ComputeBooks/status/668963076100747264 | Nov 24 01:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ComputeBooks: @schestowitz Free Download #Books on #Programming & IT https://t.co/FSZle2ZH0K over thousands Free Books on Programming | Nov 24 01:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> itbookshub.com | Books on Programming & IT Free Download | ITBooksHub.com | Nov 24 01:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/why-enlarged-board-rejected-ac-in.html?showComment=1448275628956 | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | " It is never a good idea to post something anonymously, even under the present circumstances, because it can be easily disregarded. The President has already accused the Board member of masquerading under different identities, so the only remedy is to use one's own name, which I intend to do. After all it is not bringing the Office into disrepute, it is simply expressing concern, and it is an internal communication to one's own AC member, | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | so I fail to see how it could give rise to any disciplinary measure. Anyway, if enough people do it there is safety in numbers." | Nov 24 01:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Why the Enlarged Board rejected the AC in September [ http://ur1.ca/obdvx ] | Nov 24 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | " I am working at the EPO and discussed sending Merpel's (excellent!) statement to our AC representative with a colleague of mine. We both agreed that we would never dare to do this in our own names." | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | "According to the rules staff is not allowed to contact their AC delegates, as far as I understood. Superann, you are overly optimistic: you do bring the office in disrepute because you give voice to criticism of our holiness. " | Nov 24 01:40 |
| schestowitz | " I seem to remember BB allegedly personally removing notes left for AC members by the staff committee so I presume he doesn't consider it allowable. You can expect to be investigated re. harassment of any identifiable members of mgt and possible defamation. | Nov 24 01:41 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-european-patent-office.html?showComment=1448320097627 | Nov 24 01:45 |
| schestowitz | " The president stated several times that the opponents to his plans are just a few disgruntled examiners. The SUEPO should insist on having a vote on whether the staff agrees with the reforms and in particular a vote of confidence in the president. That would be a nice one to see. I would guess single digits, fewer than the fingers of a hand!" | Nov 24 01:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: The European Patent Office | Nov 24 01:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848025 | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Developers Are ‘Too White And Too Male’ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/software/open-source/open-source-developers-are-too-white-and-too-male-181070 well, software developers IN GENERAL are | Nov 24 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | "If the non free software world has better ratios, it’s because software owners spend a good 77 cents per male dollar hiring them. The pay gap is good evidence that software owners hire women and minorities because software owners are racist and sexist pigs that think women and minorities are easier to exploit." | Nov 24 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Excellent point | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Open Source Developers Are 'Too White And Too Male' | Nov 24 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6846044 | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Four-in-ten Millennials say the government should be able to prevent people publicly making statements" http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/ | Nov 24 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | "Okay, why would they be okay with this? Look, I dislike racist and offensive speech myself, but if you start limiting speech, eventually NO ONE will be able to say anything. This is a serious downhill spiral. I may hate what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it - while I use my free speech to tell you exactly what I think of what you said!" | Nov 24 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it goes both ways | Nov 24 01:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pewresearch.org | 40% of Millennials OK with limiting speech offensive to minorities | Pew Research Center | Nov 24 01:52 | |
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| schestowitz | [09:37] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848219 | Nov 24 09:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We call them Marius, Silviu, and Grease, after #softpedia authors http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Summertime-Retreat/20151031_123347 no offence, @MariusNestor | Nov 24 09:37 | |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <schestowitz> "Nice wine rack." | Nov 24 09:37 |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <schestowitz> Thanks | Nov 24 09:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6848261 | Nov 24 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nice to see #twitter attracting the neo-Nazis types these days. Reminds me why I mostly stay out of that 'social' network. | Nov 24 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | "You should try it some time, Roy. They’re just as friendly as the Diaspora Communists you hang out with! http://www.spankingfit.com/" | Nov 24 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.spankingfit.com | Spanking FIT! - A spanking new approach to fitness, health, etc. based on REAL science | Nov 24 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | Didn't know D* was "Communists" | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6847875 | Nov 24 09:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Installing #enlightenment as I have grown tired after 7 months of endless frustration with #kf5 - #plasma5 just not ready. #kde | Nov 24 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | You may be interested in Moksha Desktop: it’s enlightenment v17 forked by the head of Bodhi Linux (a lightweight Ubuntu based on Enlightenment) because he was sick of enlightenment quirks: going from no update in a decade to three in a row in three years, each breaking internal stuff and going with binaries for configuration. | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Moksha is E17 continued, basically. | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Is it in the repos/PPAs? | Nov 24 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > I hope you are well. Thank you for allowing us to write a story on your | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > legal dispute with the EPO. I think it is important people read about | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > this, but I do appreciate that it is a delicate situation for you. | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > I just wanted to get the latest on the dispute. You said the EPO has | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > dumped its lawyers? Are they still putting the pressure on you? Did they | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > respond to your previous correspondence yet? | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > Also, what is the date of the letter you passed onto me? And are you | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | > able to forward me any of the letters sent from them? | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Basically, there's no update. A legal firm said it had taken control of | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | the matter, which meant the previous firm was dumped. It has been over 2 | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | weeks now, as far as I can tell (if memory doesn't fail me), and not a | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | word. I did notice that one secretarial (I think) member of staff of | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | that firm was 'checking me out' in LinkedIn; that was almost two weeks | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | ago, maybe an effort to get some additional 'info' on me or just | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | innocent curiousity. I haven't added anything meaningful to LinkedIn | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | since 2006 when a 'friend' had me set up an account there. | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Given what I've been writing recently and also 'spontaneous protests' I | Nov 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | hope they'll realise that going after bloggers isn't a wise decision. | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | The math doesn't add up as they have more points to lose than to gain, | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | over the long run. | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | I will pass on the latest letters... (date inline) | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Please be kind and remember that an article you write on the topic, if careless, can be used by EPO as a weapon against me. I wrote 7 articles about the EPO yesterday. | Nov 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Nothing done since................................................ 6/11/2015 | Nov 24 10:16 |
| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for sharing. Of course, I will be very careful. I just wanted | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > to clarify. Have they specifically cited your "aiding a racketeer" blog | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > as defamatory? It doesn't appear to be live. Have you taken it down as a | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > precaution? | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | I took that down around midnight on Friday, before I was able to contact David for legal advice. I wouldn't have removed it and in fact I did not obey the second request. It wasn't an admission or error, as stressed later on. | Nov 24 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > And is there a comment you would like to put on the record for our article? | Nov 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | It is incredibly worrying that, despite being a public body, the EPO is now intimidating national delegations (as reported earlier this month), politicians (as reported last week), lawyers of staff representatives (as reported last week), and even journalists or bloggers. This shows that not only are they chilling internal voices but also external voices -- clearly an abusive overreach that demonstrates the imperative to annul legal immunity | Nov 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | and take swift action. | Nov 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > See below. Can we discuss? | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Do you know how the correspondence was shown to this journalist (be | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > frank, I need to know these things!). | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Last week, as I pointed out to you, Florian Mueller mentioned that the EPO was pressuring me, citing some vague comments that I had made in Twitter (not giving any specifics). The journalist then contacted me for additional details, having asked about this before. | Nov 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you Roy. I appreciate this. We haven't heard back from the EPO yet. | Nov 24 11:32 |
| schestowitz | I'd take that as "no comment" if I were you. I think, based on my personal interpretation, that they're a little embarrassed about that whole fishfielder field day, trying to do a fishing expedition on sources and impede further writing (I have only _accelerated_ coverage since then). | Nov 24 11:32 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you Roy. I appreciate this. We haven't heard back from the EPO yet. | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Noteworthy facts: | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | 1. techrights.org was blocked (unprecedented) by EPO several months ago, whereupon staff committee/unions sent an angry letter to the management asking about such censorship. As far as I know, they never even received a response. | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | 2. you can browse this archive for recent headlines with additional information of the many recent developments: | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 11:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Nov 24 11:36 | |
| schestowitz | Please at least go through the headlines, which are being substantiated with direct evidence. | Nov 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | > So you showed the journalist the correspondence? There is *absolutely* no | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > problem with that, it is I just that it helps me to know these things, as it can | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > affect your liability profile. There can be a claim for additional damages for | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > "flagrancy" when litigation correspondence is disclosed to the media. | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > Chat soon? | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | I will be at home all day today and can happily talk. | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | When asked for information I was asserting that the balance between legal bullying and "flagrancy" is one wherein I am willing to take the risk in order for the story to be told publicly, in order for EPO workers (2000 protested last week, including Directors) to put pressure EPO management not to attack reporters (I presume there are some others than me, like "Schneider", whoever that is). | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | In a sense, it is known that something is going on here (because a blogger mentioned it last week, without notifying me). Whether it qualifies as "flagrancy" (given that no documents were shown at all) I don't know... but for sure it's not much of a closely-guarded secret anymore. Some people already have asked me for a while why an article vanished and some set up mirrors of portions of the site as a result... | Nov 24 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > I understand completely, from a bloggers perspective. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | > Am just trying to keep you safe, as is my current perspective! | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I wrote 7 articles about the EPO yesterday. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Noteworthy facts: | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | 1. techrights.org was blocked (unprecedented) by EPO several months ago, | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | whereupon staff committee/unions sent an angry letter to the management | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | asking about such censorship. As far as I know, they never even received | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | a response. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | 2. you can browse this archive for recent headlines with additional | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | information of the many recent developments: | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Please at least go through the headlines, which are being substantiated | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | with direct evidence. | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I told David this: "It is incredibly worrying that, despite being a public body, the EPO is | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | now intimidating national delegations (as reported earlier this month), | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | politicians (as reported last week), lawyers of staff representatives | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | (as reported last week), and even journalists or bloggers. This shows | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | that not only are they chilling internal voices but also external voices | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | -- clearly an abusive overreach that demonstrates the imperative to | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | annul legal immunity and take swift action." | Nov 24 11:54 |
| schestowitz | > We heard back, but so far no publicly available comment from the EPO. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > And sorry just one more point: what was the gist of the blog post in | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > dispute? I may have read it (have read near enough all your posts on the | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | > EPO), but I would not want to work from memory and put it in the article. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | The gist: | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Microsoft uses patent extortion -- or racketeering as per RICO ACT -- to coerce companies (at least 4 companies so far this year) into Microsoft's Linux-hostile agenda. There are threats of litigation or actual litigation (with conditional settlement) to do this. It's a subject techrights has been covering extensively since 2006. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Microsoft pressured the EPO into the preferential treatment farce. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Grant Philpott is shown in his (leaked) E-mail pressuring those below him to concentrate on granting patents to Microsoft (before all others), hence helping Microsoft against European companies like TomTom (see 2009 lawsuit and 'settlement'). | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | - Grant Philpott has been publicly promoting the UPC, despite his job being the granting of worthy patent monopolies (proper, through prior art search, not rushed!), not setting or lobbying on law. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | That's all stuff that I can support with evidence, hence I stand by what I stand. They caught me off guard at (almost) midnight on a Friday. My solicitor's response explains why that's an act of trickery. | Nov 24 12:24 |
| schestowitz | The following has been published just moments ago. If you can blog about this or mention it publicly, that would help | Nov 24 12:49 |
| schestowitz | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 | Nov 24 12:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.worldipreview.com | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 12:49 | |
| schestowitz | EPO SLAPP Action (SLEPO?) | Nov 24 12:50 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for your assistance Roy and your urgency in answering my questions. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > The article has just been published. Here is the link | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > <http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243>. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > Let me know what you think and I hope it helps you in your battle with | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | > the EPO. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Thank you, it's a fair article. I hope it brings WIPR more recognition inside and outside the EPO. I'm a regular reader as of months ago. | Nov 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz | The following has been published... just moments ago. If you can spread | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | this or mention it publicly, that would help | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | I think SUEPO ought to mention this in their site, but I don't have any contacts in SUEPO... | Nov 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. I'll write about it later today or early tomorrow | Nov 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Nov 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | I would like to take this opportunity to also apologise for some of the ruder things I said about you before. I've been meaning to apologise for a while but wasn't man enough to do so. | Nov 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks Roy. I appreciate your feedback. | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > We strive to be balanced and fair, but I think people can read from our | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > articles how bad the management is from the EPO. | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > My colleague xxx has written the majority of the stories and he | Nov 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > has done an excellent job in reporting on the developments at the office. | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > Yes i saw it. | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > They have sent you a letter? | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | 4 letters | Nov 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | > done. any particular reason for going public with this now? | Nov 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Florian dropped a clue already, so inevitably people will find out. I was asked by a journalist after Florian had mentioned it. | Nov 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I am writing a rebuttal of sort right now... | Nov 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. Accepted and no hard feelings. I understood your positions. You | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > had reasons to be highly skeptical of my work and it wasn't easy to see | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > my long-term agenda. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | The money motive didn't help. I never accepted payments (or pursued any) from companies I cover. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Nov 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | > I do remember, though, that even at the most combative point you once | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > credited me for my English. That meant something to me because I never | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > lived in an English-speaking country (just visited). | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Your English is better than mine, I think. English isn't my first language either and I now try to learn as many as 5 languages (in my spare time). | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > Generally it's better not to offend people too hard. I think Rush | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > Limbaugh is pretty good at laying his fingers in wounds and ridiculing | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > his rivals without calling them names. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I only ever read about him in anti-Rush sites like Media Matters. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Nov 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | > I would advise you to use the term "corrupt(ion)" more sparingly. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > In terms of issues and people: | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - You're really doing a tremendous job on the EPO. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - FRAND is not just about anti-free standards. When there are patent | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > holders like Nokia and Ericsson, and the trolls they feed, FRAND is | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > about limiting the tax imposed on everyone, especially consumers. There | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > is no way to do UMTS, LTE, WiFi etc. without paying, but when judges | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > (like Robart, Holderman) rule that such patents are worth tiny amounts, | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > that's also very helpful. Devaluing patents is the second-best | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > alternative to abolishing them. Devaluation can discourage filing patent | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > applications and lawsuits. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I am working on an article citing you regarding Ericsson's troll. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - Horacio is a nice guy. I just believe he sincerely and without bad | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > intentions overestimates the merits and the benefits to society of the | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > system as a whole and of his company's patents in particular. That's off | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > the record. | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | People at Microsoft really think they fight the good fight. And that's sad in a way. Same at Apple... | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | > - I hope you'll enjoy the Android versions of my games next year :-) | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | We have two Android devices here. Will give these a spin when production-ready in Play (store)... | Nov 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/galoppini/status/669152327564161024 | Nov 24 13:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@galoppini: Really sad to hear that my friend @schestowitz Best wishes and keep me informed. https://t.co/4SWNj89XNU | Nov 24 13:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DavidBrooke_IP: The #EPO has threatened legal action against the Techrights blog https://t.co/4YXfxsX4zt | Nov 24 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | > I strongly suggest you check with David Allen Green before you publish | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | > anything - it might weaken your case... | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I checked and he's okay with it. He even spoke to this journalist... | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | This is a risk I am willing to take. | Nov 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | > Re. money motive: understood. You're purer than even the FSF. | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > I also do a lot of things without a money motive. The EPO stuff. Or my | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > continued coverage of Oracle v. Google. But sometimes I don't want to | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > spend time on something pro bono. | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > Re. Apple: yes, they believe the sun shines through the ass of their | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > "innovations". I talked to their VP litigation on various occasions. We | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > also met in Mannheim and Munich. She's very nice and tough at the same | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > time. And if she knew more about technology, she might understand how | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > stupid a slide-to-unlock image patent (they don't even claim to own | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > slide-to-unlock per se, just the sliding image) is. | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > What's your first language, actually? | Nov 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > I don't blog for the time being about swpats nor epo. Not because of | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > threats or anything but just because the battle against the unitary | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > patent/UPC is over and I'm working on other subjets... | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > All I can do is forwarding on twitter. Sorry to not doing more... | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | I think that battle against UPC is not lost. The EPO's fall can bring all sorts of outcomes... | Nov 24 14:35 |
| schestowitz | >> I strongly suggest you check with David Allen Green before you publish | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> >> anything - it might weaken your case... | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> I checked and he's okay with it. He even spoke to this journalist... | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | >> This is a risk I am willing to take. | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | > OK, but be prudent... | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | My only real risk is a personal lawsuit. This too, however, would result in staff backlash which acts as a deterrent. | Nov 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | > > Yes i saw it. | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > > They have sent you a letter? | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > 4 letters | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > will you publish them? | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | I have not decided yet. See | Nov 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Censorship at the EPO Escalates: Now We Have Threats to Sue Publishers http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/epo-censorship-with-slapp/ | Nov 24 14:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Censorship at the EPO Escalates: Now We Have Threats to Sue Publishers | Techrights | Nov 24 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | re PO: | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | EPO: | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | More clever response just occurred to me. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it weaken my case? | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | There is no case. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it increase a chance of a case? | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I don't think so, maybe the opposite. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it weaken a case if one does materialise? | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Probably, but at least the public knows about it, so it's worth the trouble. Some people have urged me to show the full extent of EPO bullying. | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/669168258935857152 | Nov 24 15:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FOSSpatents: @Thaboz @DavidBrooke_IP Yes, I also noticed the link to the WIPR story on EPO v. TechRights is now broken. @schestowitz | Nov 24 15:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Thaboz/status/669168145836412928 | Nov 24 15:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Thaboz: @DavidBrooke_IP @FOSSpatents Link is broken. | Nov 24 15:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html?showComment=1448376317547 | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | whatnext said... | Nov 24 15:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 24 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/epo-censorship-with-slapp/ | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | > well, they may be clever responses, but never underestimate the cunning | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > of unscrupulous lawyers to turn your words against you...err on the side | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > of caution. | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | yes, and guess what? | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | The WIPR article has just been removed, so I assume EPO threatened WIPR or something. How far will these people go? | Nov 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6849693 | Nov 24 15:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #epo attempts to silence me with #slapp http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 the latest modus operandi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAPP | Nov 24 15:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 ) | Nov 24 15:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> en.wikipedia.org | Strategic lawsuit against public participation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 24 15:16 | |
| schestowitz | "Please do post more when you have news on this subject!" | Nov 24 15:16 |
| schestowitz | > Original title: Re: EPO SLAPP Action (SLEPO?) | Nov 24 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Buried under lots of stuff at the moment, will reply at a later stage. | Nov 24 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Please help spread the word about what EPO has been up to. | Nov 24 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | > quite... | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | >> Hmmm... and now WIPR tweets linking to the article about #epo are being | Nov 24 16:41 |
| schestowitz | >> deleted. Can't be an easy/simple explanation here... | Nov 24 16:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Censoring WIPR Article About Censorship by EPO | Techrights | Nov 24 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | > Hey Roy, | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Just a technical glitch. It's back up now. | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, was relieved to see it back online. No idea if the editor wanted it removed or the EPO... | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Hey Roy, | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > We actually we haven't had any contact from the EPO. Although, I | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > wouldn't put it past them to lean on us about such allegations in the | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > future, in this instance they haven't. We still haven't had a response | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > from the EPO yet. When we decided to upload the story again we decided | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > to make an internal edit. | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I've noticed. | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | If EPO wasn't this aggressive, journalists probably wouldn't be THIS careful :-) | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > For me this is still online: | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-threatens-defamatory-blogger-with-legal-action-9243 | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | They changed it: | Nov 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 16:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.worldipreview.com | EPO threatens ‘defamatory’ blogger with legal action | Nov 24 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | > thanks, RT'd | Nov 24 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > thanks, RT'd | Nov 24 16:49 |
| schestowitz | First they told me it was a "technical glitch" | Nov 24 16:49 |
| schestowitz | 10 minutes later they told me they "made internal edits". | Nov 24 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Not consistent. Maybe someone spoke to someone... | Nov 24 16:49 |
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| *schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-85-248.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes | Nov 24 17:35 | |
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| schestowitz | > It's out of my hands now. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > But remember, SUEPO is currently being decapitated, and BB's henchmen | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > are scrutinizing every single word to find an excuse to fire one of them | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > pesky unionists. The threats to the staff reps included as "evidence" | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > [barely legible] whois records for suepo.org. But linking to WIPR should | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > be OK, even if the content was later bowdlerized. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > I just checked IPkat, and there are several comments already, so word is | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > out, and there's nothing I could add of value around there: | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > Just be patient, I'm quite sure this will percolate. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 24 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | > You should perhaps include a direct link in your initial post to point | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > to your update showing the [self-?]censorship at WIPR. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > [Gee, I ought to systematically save everything I see as soon as I see | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > it for the first time. I'm grepping the Firefox cache to see if I could | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > recover the initial version, but the results are dry. I see that some of | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > the WIPR site must be opened somewhere -- I always have about one | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > gazillion tabs opened -- and reloaded automatically. sh*t! I should have | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > killed FF before I began]. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > Have a look at the first entry on you EPO Wiki, the HTML is broken: | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 17:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Nov 24 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | This is now fixed. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I suppose that SUEPO is having the most trouble right now and outsiders like us, who have no stake in the EPO, cannot do very much 'politically' | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | >> They changed it: | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | >> > http://techrights.org/2015/11/24/censoring-wipr-article-about-censorship-by-epo/ | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | > Insane. | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | > I have nearly finished my script to mirror pages, will post a recipe | Nov 24 17:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Censoring WIPR Article About Censorship by EPO | Techrights | Nov 24 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | > on github once I have it finished. | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | If you crawl the site, please try to do it at quiet hours so as to not prevent people (not bots) losing access to articles due to server load ;-) | Nov 24 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | I've just got this from one of my sources, who think EPO merely uses "scare tactics", based on the legal circumstances, as explained below: | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | =============== | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We saw the article about the EPO's legal threat against you. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Here are a few comments off the top of our heads .... | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | First of all we noticed that the article objected to contained a reference to Grant Philpott. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | The "edit" to the WIPR article involved removing Philpott's name (as he was named in the original WIPR report). | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | For what it's worth Philpott is British and he used to be in the British Army (many years ago). | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | This is no secret: http://www.ipbusinesscongress.com/2015/Speakers.aspx#Grant_Philpott | Nov 25 11:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 400 @ http://www.ipbusinesscongress.com/2015/Speakers.aspx#Grant_Philpott ) | Nov 25 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | We have no idea what significance if any this might have to anything or if it's just coincidental ... | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | It's not clear at the moment whether it's the EPO who are making a claim against you or Philpott (in a personal capacity) or both. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | However, we think that all of this may (hopefully) backfire on Battistelli and his crew. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Either it's just a bluff or they really intend to go to court. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Our understanding of the situation is that if the EPO does go to court it will have to lift its immunity. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | That could be quite dangerous for them. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Your lawyers need to be aware of the Protocol on Privileges and Immunities (PPI): | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/2013/e/ma5.html | Nov 25 11:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.epo.org | The European Patent Convention, Protocol on Privileges and Immunities of the European Patent Organisation – (Protocol on Privileges and Immunities) | Nov 25 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | Get your lawyers to look at the PPI in particular Article 20: | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | "(1) The Organisation shall co-operate at all times with the competent authorities of the Contracting States in order to facilitate the proper administration of justice, to ensure the observance of police regulations and regulations concerning public health, labour inspection or other similar national legislation, and to prevent any abuse of the privileges, immunities and facilities provided for in this Protocol." | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | If the EPO decides to go to court, then it will be obliged under Article 20(1) PPI to "co-operate ... with the competent authorities of the [U.K.] in order to facilitate the proper administration of justice ... and to prevent any abuse of the privileges, immunities and facilities provided for in this Protocol." | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | On that basis, we suppose that you could lodge requests for discovery of documents etc. and that the EPO would have to comply if they want to pursue any action against you. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | They shouldn't be allowed to misuse a UK (or other national) court in an attempt to prosecute you while at the same time being allowed to hide behind their cloak of immunity. Refer to the legal principle of "equality of arms" which should apply in a UK court. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | If the EPO tries to get "serious" about court proceedings, then maybe you can request that the court obtains a binding undertaking from the EPO that it waives its immunity from jurisdiction and execution for all matters relating to the case including any counter-claims that you may make against them. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | This could be the biggest mistake that BB has made so far. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | By trying to muzzle free speech outside the EPO he is moving outside of his normal "comfort zone" where he gets to make and break the rules as he pleases. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | There is also a high probability that this attempt to take legal action against a "blogger" could attract a lot more "mainstream" interest in the whole affair (à la Streisand). | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We are sceptical that Battistelli really wants to go before a national court with stuff like this. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | It sounds more like scare tactics - but maybe he is sufficiently bonkers to try it ... | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We will be following developments with close interest. | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Regards | Nov 25 11:48 |
| schestowitz | > Since you insisted, I of that ludicrous piece of shit, in its initial version. | Nov 25 12:04 |
| schestowitz | > "270,000 applications" is the good ol' pissing contest... This stupid trick was addressed repeatedly over the last few years in different blogs [and I have a lot to say about that, but not on TechRights]. | Nov 25 12:13 |
| schestowitz | The second part about Air France KLM seems a somewhat more balanced when compared to the first one," our reader told us. "But should one trust it more than part one? | Nov 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to translate it, I have to go take a walk to calm down. | Nov 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/eponia-land-of-suspense-and-suspensions.html?showComment=1448438226623 | Nov 25 13:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Eponia: Land of Suspense and Suspensions | Nov 25 13:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | To Kant, 07:57 | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, Dr Schestowitz has not only expressed misgivings about the UPC - he thinks the UPC is part of a conspiracy in favour of software patents. | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | This is as daft as the EPO management's conspiracy theories in the opposite direction. | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 13:34 |
| schestowitz | > Newest stuff. | Nov 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for that. In this case, no publicity other than internal only would do them any good, so I'll keep it only for information. Nice to see Techrights mentioned there... | Nov 25 14:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | a) massive The Hague GA | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday a massive General Assembly took place in The Hague: due to the Administra on ban, it took place at 10 minutes walking | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | distance from the Office, in a kind of concert hall which looked very packed with 800 to 1000 par cipants (according to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | various es mates – see picture below). Besides the acclaimed speeches a remarkable number interven on came from the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | floor calling for more concrete ac ons to support our colleagues. The call from the floor for a symbolic ONE DAY strike with | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | maximum par cipa on was greeted by a massive and unambiguous show of hands. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | b) Pe | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | on is ini ated in Mu | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | As announced last week , a pe on is circulasignatories from the risk of retalia on. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | ng in Munich (see email below). The pe | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | on will be handed out to a notary to protect | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Staff from all POEs are invited to join in and help collec ng the signatures, in which case the room for returning the forms need to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | be changed: for this purpose a Word document is a ached to the present email. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | c) Enemies everywhere... | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | The Blogger, Florian Müller, posted yesterday an ar cle taking a clear view on the latest ac ons of the EPO, tled “Shame on the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | European Patent Office for its legal threats against TechRights”: he notes that “with almost 20,000 blog posts, Dr. Schestowitz had not | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | received a legal le er before an EPO lawyer sent him one.” and despite not being a great fan of the “opinionated” TechRights site (the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | la er has o en a acked Mr. Müller), he adds he would personally “contribute money and lend an endorsement to a crowdfunding effort to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | finance his defence”. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | 1. In the past months, the EPO President has made it abundantly clear that the EPO has many internal Enemies: poten ally any staff | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | members –hence the surveillance-, the Staff representa on ins tu ons – hence the limita ons - and its representa ves –hence the | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | inves ga ons and the disciplinary procedures. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | 2. In the past weeks, it was made clear that the EPO has enemies in the interested circles: Member States Delega ons of the AC seem to | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | have been threatened of consequences for their ac ons by the President. The exchange of le ers last week has shown that elected | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | na onal Parliament Members, like Mr. Le Borgn’, allegedly represent a threat to the organisa on. This is new for the whole EPO history. | Nov 25 14:02 |
| schestowitz | 3. Since yesterday, it is becoming also clear that the enemies are everywhere, in the media and elsewhere: accordingly bloggers and | Nov 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | even lawyers receive the same treatment of legal threats and in mida ons... | Nov 25 14:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 25 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | I very cautiously select what to publish, what not to publish (never or for now), and I keep a detailed list of what I got when, and where. The mail titled 7780a, 7780, 7781 I will maybe get around to next week because it's not time-critical. | Nov 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Eventually I'll get to everything... including the threat letters I received (need to selectively write about these) | Nov 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Busy month ahead... big backlog here... material to cover about EPO. If I'm not fast enough, I may - GASP - lose my xmas leave ;-) | Nov 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MikeTilbury/status/669581576766939136 | Nov 25 18:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MikeTilbury: @schestowitz @TheRegister wow that's a great feature. | Nov 25 18:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788350 | Nov 26 01:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook already knows everything about you and planted cookies everywhere, so you don't have to specify name https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/facebooks-new-name-policy-changes-are-progress-not-perfection | Nov 26 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes sure, it is very hard to help others, because the Mainstram in West Europe are using Facebook as their Main Internet Replacement ! It is like swishing to from Google Android to Cynagon Mod or/and Windows to Linux …" | Nov 26 01:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eff.org | Facebook's New Name Policy Changes are Progress, Not Perfection | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Nov 26 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6852927 | Nov 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | "Let us know how we can help." | Nov 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Spread the word online, their reputation is already in the gutter | Nov 26 01:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 26 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | FOSS Patents blog mentioned here | Nov 26 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151125/06173532901/european-patent-office-threatens-blogger-with-defamation-lawsuit-criticism.shtml | Nov 26 01:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.techdirt.com | European Patent Office Threatens Blogger With Defamation Lawsuit For Criticism | Techdirt | Nov 26 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | Of course, how avoid civilian deaths when fighters merge into? Expensive, useless and helping ISIS to recruit among survivors, so casualties are easily compensated | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | “La guerre est une chose trop grave pour être confiée à des militaires” | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | (War is too serious matter to leave it with military men) | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | George Clemenceau, French president (1917-1920) | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6852088 | Nov 26 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6855043 | Nov 26 01:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "many innocent civilians had been killed in recent bombings of the ISIS occupied city of Raqqa." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/11/legal-does-not-mean-wise/ #syria | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Legal Does Not Mean Wise | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moglen on low cost of storage and why the so-called 'cloud' is a disaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA epic talk, prophetic (before #nsa leaks) | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Eben Moglen - Freedom in The Cloud - YouTube | Nov 26 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | > short version: | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > problem found, was on my side! | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | >> You can't decrypt the other message ? What message do you see ? | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | >> gpg: encrypted with ELG key, ID 4F60A0E4 | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > gpg: decryption failed: No secret key | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > Okay, problem found. This was my mistake, I was too lazy and typed only "sch" (for "Schestowitz") when I encoded the other mail. | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > For sending to you, I do this manually: | Nov 26 01:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > gedit 1.txt | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > gpg -a -e 1.txt | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > (here I entered this time a too-short-fraction of your name, here: "sch" instead of "schesto", and gpg found a different recipient) | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > and, oops, did not carefully watched that a wrong public key was selected. | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > Problem solved. Not YOUR fault. Pls. don't answer. | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > I will try to remember what I wanted to say in the first mail. One think was at least: | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > * Full support for your work, well done so far. | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | > * (rest follows some time later) | Nov 26 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/larrondomanuel/status/669692097184796674 | Nov 26 01:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@larrondomanuel: #ParisAttacks There was a failure to follow up on all the information that security forces already had #surveillance https://t.co/msqjtLK8cG | Nov 26 01:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Don’t Blame Edward @Snowden for the #ParisAttacks https://t.co/7xxzMscKBD https://t.co/NafgQZTqFU | Nov 26 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | The Linux loons are mobilizing against RedHat due to RedHat's decision to | Nov 26 02:06 |
| schestowitz | partner with Microsoft. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/11/07/red-hat-chastised-over-patents/ | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | This is why when you hear a Linux loon talking about choice you should | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | ignore him because the only choice is THEIR CHOICE. Choose something | Nov 26 02:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Red Hat is Chastised For Playing Along With Microsoft’s Patent Scheme Rather Than Challenge the Patents Like Google and the Alice Case Did | Techrights | Nov 26 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | different and you will be attacked. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | In order to be an accepted member of the Linux loon community, you need to | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | be 100 percent in lock step with them. Even the smallest deviation will | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | subject you to being attacked. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | It all goes with the mantra of the Linux loon community. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/W25s07NkA_c/eeUAtd8mDwAJ | Nov 26 02:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 26 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | Yep, not unexpected. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | Fortunately, RedHat being a company interested in profits, will most | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | likely ignore the 'community' of loons that surround linux. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | "Your comment does not have anything to do with article. | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:07 |
| schestowitz | They will follow the money, like most smart corporations. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | The loons totally discredit their arguments by embracing paranoid lunatics | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | like Dr. Schestowitz. His site is like a viper pit of extreme paranoia and | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | misinformation. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | A couple of weeks ago I took his banner article and carefully read through | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | it following the many links embedded in the article and offered as proof of | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | his claims. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | The vast majority of them lead right back to his own articles! | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | And if they don't, they lead to the same small group of the Linux | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | extremists like SJVN. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Sites like that harm Linux and FOSS. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | What a shocker that "Doctor" Suckstwodickz would go after the one Linux | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | company actually making some money for using common sense. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | "Doctor" Suckstwodickz will make broad, idiotic statements and use his | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | own broad, idiotic statements as proof that whatever he says is true. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | It's a new level of stupid even for Linux losers. Luckily, the people | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | here don't have to suffer through his lying because he stopped posting | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | but it looks like he left one of his turds behind (Joseph "7" Michael) | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | to spout nonsense in his place. | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | "Most Linux users are pro-choice, obviously. " | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | It should be explicitly pointed-out that nowhere in the linked-to | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | article is there anything about anyone "mobilizing against" Redhat, or | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | even being critical of them, for their decision to partner with | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft. | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Also, here in cola (supposed bastion of Linux "loons") no one spoke | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | against it, that I saw. | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Poor trolls. All they have is their lies. | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:09 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/D84PcZwXTfQ/u_6qxFp4AQAJ | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | THOSE HORRIBLE MONSTERS!! I wonder if "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz will | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | manage to keep his mouth off of Wretched Stallman's dick long enough to | Nov 26 02:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 26 02:10 | |
| schestowitz | comment on this. | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Opens-VS-Code> | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | It's already been a surprising year with Microsoft's many | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | open-source/Linux-related announcements and 2015 isn't even over yet! | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | There's another interesting announcement today. | Nov 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has announced they've open-sourced Visual Studio Code. Not to | Nov 26 02:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.phoronix.com | Microsoft Open-Sources Visual Studio Code - Phoronix | Nov 26 02:11 | |
| schestowitz | be confused with the full-blown Visual Studio integrated development | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | environment, Visual Studio Code is their more web-focused IDE based on | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | GitHub's Atom. Microsoft released Visual Studio Code earlier this year | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | and they provided native Linux support. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has opened up VS Code under the MIT license and they are | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | welcoming community contributions. The code is on GitHub. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | The announcement was made via the VisualStudio.com blog along with other | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | updates they've made this month to Visual Studio Code. | Nov 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 26 02:11 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: key thing about MIT license is the fact you can make a closed source product with extentions and never display what you have changed. | Nov 26 04:15 |
| oiaohm | So MIT VS Code is perfect for the three E. | Nov 26 04:16 |
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| *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast | Nov 27 19:10 | |
| *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 | Nov 27 19:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | >>> Another week has passed. Any word from FSF or, more importantly, from | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> Red Hat? | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > yes, I was going to write about it today, | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Excellent. | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > but 2 hours just wasted | Nov 27 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > blocking effective DDOS attack from Baidu, so might not have time... | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/82909 | Nov 27 19:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Baidu Stages De Facto DDOS Attacks | Tux Machines | Nov 27 19:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. Sorry to hear that. At least the source is identified. I see when | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > pruning the spam false negatives [1] that the incoming requests are | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > still misidentified as the proxy. If you put one of those modules, rpaf | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > or mod_remoteip, it would be possible for Apache to block the offending | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > hosts and not waste cycles serving them. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > [1]http://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Thanks for keeping our site clean from stuff that would have Google penalise us. I'm highlighting this as TODO. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm way over my head with EPO stuff at the moment, very eager to publish ASAP. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | The Red Hat stuff isn't urgent to publish. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Techrights › Log In | Nov 27 19:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | >>> Another week has passed. Any word from FSF or, more importantly, from | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> Red Hat? | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > yes, I was going to write about it today, | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Excellent. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > but 2 hours just wasted | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > blocking effective DDOS attack from Baidu, so might not have time... | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/82909 | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. Sorry to hear that. At least the source is identified. I see when | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > pruning the spam false negatives [1] that the incoming requests are | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > still misidentified as the proxy. If you put one of those modules, rpaf | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > or mod_remoteip, it would be possible for Apache to block the offending | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > hosts and not waste cycles serving them. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > [1]http://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Thanks for keeping our site clean from stuff that would have Google penalise us. I'm highlighting this as TODO. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm way over my head with EPO stuff at the moment, very eager to publish ASAP. | Nov 27 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | The Red Hat stuff isn't urgent to publish. | Nov 27 19:13 |
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| *Now talking on #techbytes | Nov 27 22:04 | |
| *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast | Nov 27 22:04 | |
| *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 | Nov 27 22:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Roy, we are not experts in UK defamation law but we had a quick look at the Defamation Act of 2013 and we noticed a few things that might be relevant for your situation. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Under Section 1 of the Act, "harm to the reputation of a body that trades | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | body serious financial loss." | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | The EPO is not a "body that trades for profit" so it is not covered by that Section to begin with. Anyway, it's doubtful that they could show any "serious financial loss" from Techrights publications. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | We also noted that according to the Wikipedia page relating to the Defamation act: | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | "Non-natural persons performing a public function do not have an action in defamation against any statement concerning that function." | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_Act_2013#Jurisdiction | Nov 27 22:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Defamation Act 2013 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 27 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | If that interpretation of the law is correct - which it seems to be - then it's difficult to see how the EPO could possibly have any success in trying to initiate a defamation action against TechRights in a UK court. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | That's just our opinion but hopefully your lawyers can confirm. | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Got this too from a concerned source | Nov 27 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/670366269053489152 | Nov 27 22:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: understandable; but don't let them win... https://t.co/SgDcZ9gQw6 | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: I was planning to publish about 7 articles today, but lost many hours to #ddos attacks through the day. Very demoralising. | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jameswesb/status/670364388868628483 | Nov 27 22:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jameswesb: https://t.co/LUGde7YcZw | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mobile.twitter.com | Twitter | Nov 27 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | Thanks you for supporting me. Very much appreciated, Glyn. | Nov 27 22:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/670370367060492288 | Nov 27 22:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: @schestowitz least I can do...keep up the great work | Nov 27 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670374677043392512 | Nov 27 23:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Had. | Nov 27 23:03 | |
| schestowitz | Only if they lost their job... or resigned. | Nov 27 23:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670377995387969536 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670379114315038725 | Nov 27 23:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Not really. At the bottom of the management hierarchy. | Nov 27 23:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz a If I understand correctly, the management used to be very shallow. It seems bloated,now, me layers added for no gain. | Nov 27 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/670379398151970816 | Nov 27 23:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Management to make to managers feel good. Management trust sees managers as the only people with status. | Nov 27 23:13 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: the lawyer offered me the advice and work pro bono, decided to give me text to write in response, to which to add with update... what a great guy | Nov 28 00:47 |
| MinceR | nice | Nov 28 00:47 |
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| *Now talking on #techbytes | Nov 28 08:40 | |
| *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast | Nov 28 08:40 | |
| *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 | Nov 28 08:40 | |
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| r_schestowitz | > You might find this amusing ... (click on the photo of the author at the | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > top of the article): | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > Bad Reputation – how can a claimant’s character affect damages for | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > defamation? | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Nov 28 08:48 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://defamationlawblog.fieldfisher.com/bad-reputation-how-can-a-claimants-character-affect-damages-for-defamation/ | Nov 28 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | How wrote this one week after he sent me the first threatening letter, so he had probably been 'researching' the topic before blogging about it. | Nov 28 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | Nasty guy... | Nov 28 08:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-defamationlawblog.fieldfisher.com | Bad Reputation – how can a claimant’s character affect damages for defamation? « Scandalous! Defamation Law Blog | Nov 28 08:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/670549922605867008\ | Nov 28 10:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Pirate forced to make anti-piracy film to avoid being sued https://t.co/5DGfdvStEa #propaganda by coercion | Nov 28 10:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theinquirer.net | Pirate forced to make anti-piracy film to avoid being sued- The Inquirer | Nov 28 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | "Hi, do you think is safe to exchange info in here?" | Nov 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz | For the safety of the person and any persons mentioned in the message (some of whom not subjected to reprisal or interrogation) it would be best to use anonymity, encryption, etc. I think that CRG might be able to gain access, maybe through GCHQ, to sites like 'social' media. http://techrights.org/2015/10/25/techrights-doc-drop/ | Nov 28 11:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | How to Securely Provide Techrights With Information, Documents | Techrights | Nov 28 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/brancaleggio/status/670564238281342976 | Nov 28 11:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@brancaleggio: RT@schestowitz: "The use of eGovernment social and health services offered by the city of Helsinki (Finland) is… https://t.co/BRCJFh6CPy | Nov 28 11:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "The use of eGovernment social and health services offered by the city of Helsinki (Finland) is increasing. " https://t.co/xvLgRUCD3b | Nov 28 11:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | <p align="center"> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | <img src="" alt="" /> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | </p> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | <em><b>Summary</b>: </em> | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "I encrypt using gpg keys with thunderbird, would that do for a start? like exchanging other addresses or numbers without being found straight away for instance..." | Nov 28 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I just need the e-mail or public key, I'll send send mine and we can encrypt both ways | Nov 28 17:22 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/27/1450229 | Nov 28 17:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/27/1450229 ) | Nov 28 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | >> > | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > Some rather low quality comments in there. It'll like another /. (post | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > Dice takeover) | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > Yeah, this one got hit by some poor posts. Unfortunately there are some | Nov 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > regular commenters in there with crap posts. Probably the best one | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > though is the anonymous one about needed to constantly defend freedoms | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > or they will disappear. Also it doesn't help that M$ has been able to | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > take over so many of the mainstream sites that they've moved the center | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > of the field their direction. | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Right now even the EPO is buying the media. In my latest article I compared to to the Gates Foundation. | Nov 28 17:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6857618 | Nov 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "The oneplus two makes sence' | Nov 28 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6864714 | Nov 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "A minor release of my C utility library, including some changes required for the previous release" http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2015-11/001.html #freesw | Nov 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Hmmm… must be C minor then." | Nov 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: rra-c-util 5.9 (2015-11-27) | Nov 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/E-flat-major_c-minor.svg/120px-E-flat-major_c-minor.svg.png | Nov 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "ba-dum-tss.wav" | Nov 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6863882 | Nov 28 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Articles to come at #techrights : Richard Stallman and Eben Moglen on #redhat #microsoft deal. Then a new #epo scandal (multi-part). | Nov 28 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Ishe aware that Trisquel has a software on it that’s a canonical product?" | Nov 28 18:05 |
| schestowitz | How does this relate to Canonical? | Nov 28 18:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | I can tell you are putting a lot of blood, sweat and tears toward a cause you beleive in. I don't know what it is you face with the EPO but I'm sure it is indimidating. I just want to say "good work" and keep it up. | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Oh you made soylentnews again too. | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 28 18:06 |
| schestowitz | yes, someone told me this morning. Thanks for the kind words | Nov 28 18:06 |
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