IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: June 16th, 2019 – June 22nd, 2019

schestowitz	> Hi there.	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> I few days ago I was asking in a comment about the CoCs, here:	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> http://techrights.org/2019/06/13/a-line-in-the-sand/	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> That comment never went online, so maybe there was something wrong with it.	Jun 16 00:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Guest Post: Notes on Free Speech, and a Line in the Sand \| Techrights		Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> But today I saw the new post	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> (http://techrights.org/2019/06/15/jeremy-sands-and-imposed-coc/) and	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> wanted to say something about it.	Jun 16 00:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Code of Conduct Explained: Partial Transcript – August 10th, 2018 – Episode 80, The Truth About Southeast Linuxfest \| Techrights		Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> So, fearing that commenting it out may be lost again, I wrote the	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> response to your post in my blog, here:	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> https://blog.canta.com.ar/2019/06/15/a-response-to-dr-roy-schestowitz-regarding-some-code-of-conduct-issues/	Jun 16 00:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.canta.com.ar \| A response to Dr. Roy Schestowitz, regarding some Code of Conduct issues \| Daniel Cantarín – Blog		Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	It got mis-detected as spam, which rarely happens. I need to check this more often for misflagged classification.	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	The comment is now published, I will respond in the comments.	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	Thanks!	Jun 16 00:45
schestowitz	> Ok. I have them from there now. I was looking around in the scripts	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	> there but then decided it was not a good idea to experiment or guess.	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	>	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	> Also, while I was in there, I tidied the script further.	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	>	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	> $ diff get_dbs.sh get_dbs.sh.old	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	> 4d3	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	> < lastweek=$(date -d "$date - 7 days" +%Y%m%d)	Jun 16 00:56
schestowitz	> 18,20c17,19	Jun 16 00:57
schestowitz	> < rm ~/wordpressdatabase-$lastweek.dump.gz	Jun 16 00:57
schestowitz	> < rm ~/drupaldatabase-$lastweek.dump.gz	Jun 16 00:57
schestowitz	> < rm ~/wikidatabase-$lastweek.dump.gz	Jun 16 00:57
schestowitz	I wrote it when there was only one DB, so never factorised it. Thanks for improving that. Yesterday I set a cron job to send me mail with key facts. Do you want copies also?	Jun 16 00:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1139996760409985024	Jun 16 01:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DMCANews: Well written. Thank you for this piece! https://t.co/PMivRd4ICD		Jun 16 01:19
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/IlDrugo_/status/1140119849181618177	Jun 16 12:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@IlDrugo_: @schestowitz I'll buy you... tell me your price... (difference btw US & UE)... ?		Jun 16 12:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/user12467342423/status/1140136674950832128	Jun 16 12:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@user12467342423: This is an interesting article- and helps put into perspective the ridiculous irresponsibility of the Republican Pa… https://t.co/NSfVONLM3V		Jun 16 12:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@user12467342423: This is an interesting article- and helps put into perspective the ridiculous irresponsibility of the Republican Pa… https://t.co/NSfVONLM3V		Jun 16 12:52
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 12:52
schestowitz	More Carl Ng Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 16 12:52
schestowitz	This is an interesting article- and helps put into perspective the ridiculous irresponsibility of the Republican Party, who dastardly mock the situation with terms like "molecules of freedom"	Jun 16 12:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sheilabenson/status/1140170611509157888	Jun 16 13:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sheilabenson: @schestowitz Nice try, eh ? ...		Jun 16 13:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/entubao/status/1140204292298743808	Jun 16 13:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@entubao: @SJCLtd in linux :? 🤣 @schestowitz		Jun 16 13:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jaffamonkey/status/1140230571303546881	Jun 16 14:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jaffamonkey: Opensource has been going toxic, full of the bullshit it is against. And it’s time to get it back. And also time to… https://t.co/3EwFqq0FbA		Jun 16 14:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jaffamonkey: Opensource has been going toxic, full of the bullshit it is against. And it’s time to get it back. And also time to… https://t.co/3EwFqq0FbA		Jun 16 14:20
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 14:20
schestowitz	jaffamonkey Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 16 14:20
schestowitz	Opensource has been going toxic, full of the bullshit it is against. And it’s time to get it back. And also time to stop joining in the same bullshit. You know full well who you are.	Jun 16 14:20
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 14:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LaLegale/status/1140231871810248709	Jun 16 14:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LaLegale: @schestowitz Sounds just like starting a job in the Australian Public Service! #auspol		Jun 16 14:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1140247727336566784	Jun 16 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz It's got to be a tribute to the World that Microsoft hasn't been able to gain control of Linux. It's not for lack of trying.		Jun 16 14:21
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="https://quillette.com/2019/06/11/its-time-for-sweden-to-admit-explosions-are-a-national-emergency/" rel="nofollow">It’s Time for Sweden to Admit Explosions Are a National Emergency</a></h5>	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	# "gang" is code for "muslim"	Jun 16 16:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-quillette.com \| It's Time for Sweden to Admit Explosions Are a National Emergency - Quillette		Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	<blockquote>	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	<p>It is the kind of news we usually associate with war zones, but this bombing took place in Linköping, a peaceful university town in southern Sweden. Remarkably, it was not the only explosion in the country that day; another, seemingly unrelated, blast was reported in a parking lot in the city of Gothenburg earlier in the morning. Three explosions have been reported in Malmö since Tuesday morning. As of this writing, no arrests have	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	been made. </p>	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	</blockquote>	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	</li>	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 16:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1140281494994186241	Jun 16 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz What amazes me is that Microsoft wasn’t split back in 2001. They got off easy like a rapey frat boy. T… https://t.co/1kmGb0yaFP		Jun 16 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz What amazes me is that Microsoft wasn’t split back in 2001. They got off easy like a rapey frat boy. T… https://t.co/1kmGb0yaFP		Jun 16 16:37
schestowitz	"What amazes me is that Microsoft wasn’t split back in 2001. They got off easy like a rapey frat boy. Their revenue wasn’t even impeded by “regulation”. Same linear growth right through their fines from the US and later in the EU "	Jun 16 16:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/j082298/status/1140282610574344199	Jun 16 17:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz So how much CO2 are they going to produce "fixing" the problem? None of this makes sense. The "cure" needs to make sense! 🙄		Jun 16 17:27
schestowitz	"So how much CO2 are they going to produce "fixing" the problem? None of this makes sense. The "cure" needs to make sense! "	Jun 16 17:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1140285093933535232	Jun 16 17:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz One problem with software engineered for lock-in is that it cannot be simultaneously be optimized for… https://t.co/CSAE4QzniW		Jun 16 17:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz One problem with software engineered for lock-in is that it cannot be simultaneously be optimized for… https://t.co/CSAE4QzniW		Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz	"One problem with software engineered for lock-in is that it cannot be simultaneously be optimized for utility and user welfare. It also doesn’t work well without an expansive partner network and tends to fail in merit-based free markets beyond their influence."	Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LizRabban/status/1140286209991806976	Jun 16 17:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LizRabban: @schestowitz Do you disagree with her body of work?		Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz	I can see who she helps, even if inadvertently	Jun 16 17:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1140294396375519232	Jun 16 17:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Don’t forget China and Russia dumping windows too 🤣		Jun 16 17:30
schestowitz	> There were some attacks against Bryan Lunduke in social control media	Jun 16 17:42
schestowitz	> lately if I read correctly.	Jun 16 17:42
schestowitz	I have not heard anything about that.	Jun 16 17:42
schestowitz	> Sure. It's probably a good idea to have an overview.	Jun 16 17:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 16 17:45
schestowitz	> By the way, I tightened down the file permissions for the get_dbs.sh	Jun 16 17:45
schestowitz	> scripts on both TR and TM. They are now 0700 instead of 0755.	Jun 16 17:45
schestowitz	If these reports are useful (more than running the commands), I will expand them. For now they're worthless.	Jun 16 17:45
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acer-box__	"Are you a bot? How is it possible that you post an article every second for 24 hours a day?"	Jun 16 17:46
acer-box__	I post about 200 a day	Jun 16 17:46
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social \| Fla: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site well that's the point o…" - Mastodon		Jun 16 17:47
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acer-box__	For now I'm OK where I am	Jun 16 17:47
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mamot.fr \| Egide: "Via @schestowitz@pleroma.site « Un religieux au P…" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fédéré		Jun 16 17:47
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acer-box__	Via @schestowitz « Un religieux au Pakistan a déposé une plainte auprès de la police accusant un ministre fédéral de violer la tradition islamique en présentant un site Web d'observation de la lune et un calendrier lunaire officiel. »	Jun 16 17:47
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acer-box__	Partage :	Jun 16 17:47
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jpost.com \| Pakistani cleric complains about minister in 'moon-lighting controversy' - Middle East - Jerusalem Post		Jun 16 17:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site \| Pleroma		Jun 16 17:48
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acer-box__	i like to use the term 'Libre' a lot. Libre software, libre systems. Why? It respects users freedoms and is open sources as well.	Jun 16 17:48
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-floss.social \| The Gimmick Hacker: "@OpenSource@mastodon.social @schestowitz@pleroma.…" - FLOSS.social		Jun 16 17:48
acer-box__	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/985664654400098304?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:985664654400098304:0:0:0:985879665516314624	Jun 16 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| UK commits to 'net zero' emissions by 2050		Jun 16 17:49
acer-box__	"Jon the EV Force and help us fast track the LSEV revolution. #ev4c #lsev"	Jun 16 17:49
acer-box__	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/985786570799742976?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:985786570799742976:0:0:0:985793407834144768	Jun 16 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| 'The Ocasio-Cortez Effect': Democratic Grassroots Ignoring Establishment Threats as Yet Another Progressive Announces Plan to Primary Incumbent		Jun 16 17:50
acer-box__	"Yes, flood the party with more like aoc. Normal people will totally go for it."	Jun 16 17:50
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/984939874028535808?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:984939874028535808:0:0:0:985981402471129088	Jun 16 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Trudeau to announce ban on single-use plastics Monday \| Cape Breton Post		Jun 16 17:53
schestowitz	"I do think Canada needs to deal with the plastic waste that was illegally shipped overseas, but there is no evidence that the Canadian government had anything to do with those shipments. In fact, there have been several lawsuits filed against the Canadian-based companies responsible for the illegal shipping. In the case of the Philippines, it was KNOWN since 2014 "who" the parties involved were, the Canadian government advised both the	Jun 16 17:53
schestowitz	Aquino and Duterte administrations that if the Philippines filed formal legal action in the Canadian courts the Canadian government would help get the illegal trash shipped back, and yet NOTHING was done by the Philippines until Duterte decided it was to his advantage to make it an issue just before the recent midterm elections. I am NO FAN of Trudeau and think he is the "Canadian Obama", but this is one situation where he had nothing to	Jun 16 17:53
schestowitz	do with it at all."	Jun 16 17:53
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986134382365302784?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986134382365302784:0:0:0:986134828294746112	Jun 16 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| CERN leaves Microsoft programs behind for open-source software \| ZDNet		Jun 16 17:53
schestowitz	"good fuck microsoft	Jun 16 17:53
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986139033877229568?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986139033877229568:0:0:0:986140993187622912	Jun 16 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Many 'awards' out there are fake; there's a whole business model around who gets rewarded. It's like an extension of the #marketing 'industry'.		Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	"The Oscars come to mind.	Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986305771828228096?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986305771828228096:0:0:0:986440766262943744	Jun 16 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Prosecutors drop criminal charges in Flint water scandal		Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	"Similar thing happening with Florida's Water, especially in Miami, where I am at. More like drinking sewer water. :'("	Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	Where does drinking water come from?	Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986589532579008512?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986589532579008512:0:0:0:986599559827861504	Jun 16 17:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| ‘So what’d you write?’ Ivan Golunov tells ‘Meduza’ about life as an investigative journalist in Russia today and being framed for drug dealing — Meduza		Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	"now they will make new jesus from him"	Jun 16 17:54
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986615685530038272?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986615685530038272:0:0:0:986623333971345408	Jun 16 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Facebook offers to pay if you'll let it study your online habits - Times of India ►		Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	"better pay me like 25% of zuck's salary per second for me to do this....	Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986647749087436800?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986647749087436800:0:0:0:986650521902858240	Jun 16 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Facebook’s cryptocurrency to debut next week backed by Visa, Mastercard, Uber, and others: WSJ		Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	"Dang, I had wondered about that."	Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986617661335187456?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986617661335187456:0:0:0:986654884058710016	Jun 16 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Extradition of Assange to US Signed Off - SoylentNews		Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	"Why is it you complain of the lack of sovereignty but you want to remain apart of the EU which is all about stripping nation states of sovereignty."	Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	Europe is a neighbour	Jun 16 17:55
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986807053542047744?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986807053542047744:0:0:0:986813319464329216	Jun 16 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Open Source Answer to Dropbox and OneDrive: Meet Frank Karlitschek		Jun 16 17:56
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 17:56
schestowitz	I have been a fan and a user of the Nextcloud project ever since the developers split away from the OwnCloud project (which Nextcloud is a derivative of).	Jun 16 17:56
schestowitz	Considering Nextcloud's usage of the DAV (WebDAV, CalDAV and CardDAV) protocol and the ability to combine projects such as Collabora Office and using other bridges (as well as being able to incorporate other authentication methods), NextCloud is an extremely good and flexible self-hosted SaaS ("cloud") based full open source solution, which not only can be a good alternative to platforms such as Dropbox and OneDrive, but can also be a	Jun 16 17:56
schestowitz	suitable replacement for Google Drive / Google Docs and Microsoft 365 services.	Jun 16 17:56
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 17:56
schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987016152968171520?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987016152968171520:0:0:0:987017188147564544	Jun 16 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Mob vandalises petrol pump, beats staff and loots cash in Malad. 5 arrested		Jun 16 17:57
schestowitz	"WTF"	Jun 16 17:57
schestowitz	https://social.privacytools.io/users/DisneyDream/statuses/102280893801699789	Jun 16 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.privacytools.io \| Disney Dream: "@tuxmachines@pleroma.site you faggots thought you…" - Mastodon 🔐 privacytools.io		Jun 16 17:58
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 17:58
schestowitz	you faggots thought you'd stop me by getting vultr to take my blog down? LOL! Here is the full essay talking about why men should never get married in America: http://www.dontmarry.com/ . Only an idiot or a cuck would get married in a country where the legal and divorce system is anti-male and lets women steal men's house, car, kids, and money in divorce. Never get married, at least in America!	Jun 16 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.dontmarry.com \| Why Marriage Has Become a Raw Deal for Men		Jun 16 17:58
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15200221#0bd2b090725301373d962986f53bbfc6	Jun 16 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The fight to keep open source truly “open” ⁠— open source providers need to stand up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124925		Jun 16 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| The fight to keep open source truly “open” ⁠— open source providers need to stand up \| Tux Machines		Jun 16 18:01
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:01
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schestowitz	theyve done it this way for too long https://invidio.us/watch?v=6AvMUR_XMlg	Jun 16 18:01
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us \| Hugh Laurie - Too Long Johnny - Invidious		Jun 16 18:01
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15200221#eebac0e0725201373d982986f53bbfc6	Jun 16 18:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The fight to keep open source truly “open” ⁠— open source providers need to stand up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124925		Jun 16 18:02
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:02
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schestowitz	https://invidio.us/watch?v=6AvMUR_XMlg	Jun 16 18:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15183346#f0cb975070ac01372d8f7de59bf9fe21	Jun 16 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Assange will get a #Golunov -like 'trial', based on framing, shaming, fabrications and media libel. Only public outcry can turn things around at this point, but there's public shaming and humiliation instead. Led by #corporatemedia https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6047738455001		Jun 16 18:04
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.skynews.com.au \| Assange 'won't receive a fair trial' in the US \| Sky News Australia		Jun 16 18:04
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schestowitz	http://www.chinapost.com.cn/	Jun 16 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.chinapost.com.cn \| NO TITLE		Jun 16 18:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:04
schestowitz	https://invidio.us/watch?v=0W786T2gJv0&hl=en-US&local=true&autoplay=0&subtitles=%2C%2C	Jun 16 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us \| Assange 'won't receive a fair trial' in the US - Invidious		Jun 16 18:04
schestowitz	https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/06/07/no-phone-call-no-attorney-no-food-no-sleep	Jun 16 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io \| NO TITLE		Jun 16 18:04
schestowitz	https://www.rt.com/newsline/461761-putin-dismisses-generals-golunov/	Jun 16 18:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.rt.com \| Putin dismisses 2 police generals over journalist Golunov case — RT Newsline		Jun 16 18:05
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Assange ‘won’t receive a fair trial’ in the US - Invidious	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	harry haller	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	harry haller - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Golunov didn’t get to a trial and was let free.	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	And, according to wiki, it was the media, who highljightrd the scandal.	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	According to Meduza, the police broke russian law:	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	No phone call, no attorney, no food, no sleep How police broke Russian law during Ivan Golunov’s arrest — Meduza	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	I don’t see a comparison, because what’s happening to Assange is legal - that’s the horror - surely.	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	because what’s happening to Assange is legal	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	not under the u.s. constitution (which i realise is the toilet paper of many a president these days)	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	harry haller	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	harry haller - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	I thought he’s being prosecuted for getting the information, rather than for publishing it (you see how slippery these law people are…)	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	what’s happening to Assange is legal	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	How is that legal? And why are you even comparing Assange to the Meduza guy?	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	harry haller	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	harry haller - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	I’m not - I’m questioning it - read the post	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	#Assange will get a #Golunov -like ‘trial’, based on framing, shaming, fabrications and media libel.	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Sorry. I thought I had read the whole thing, but it turns out I have most of that article blocked by one of my browser addons.	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	:P	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Trocatintas - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:06
schestowitz	Dammit! Now I regret sharing it.	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	harry haller	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	harry haller - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Yes - The generals, not some minor officers.	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Major-General Puchkov was the chief of Moscow’s Western Administrative District police force	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Major-General Devyatkin headed the Drug Control Directorate of the Moscow police.	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Trocatintas	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Trocatintas - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	But that Russian guy has already been released, and the charges have been dismissed. And more:	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Putin dismisses 2 police generals over journalist Golunov case — RT Newsline	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Lawyers did have to defend him before the charges were dropped, due to outcry	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15190335#cd1be930713b0137ec207a163ef10931	Jun 16 18:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Canonical 's #Linux Snap Store Adds 10 Distro-Specific Installation Pages For Every App http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124882 #ubuntu #gnu		Jun 16 18:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical's Linux Snap Store Adds 10 Distro-Specific Installation Pages For Every App \| Tux Machines		Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	""	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	Ugh. I’ve left Ubuntu, for good. For better.	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - a day ago	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	@tomgrz no kidding, does s76 have any other operating systems/distros?	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	tomgrz - about 11 hours ago	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	I keep wondering, where does Canonical get all its dough. They have put a lot of development work into ARM and the IOT. Not to mention Telemetry of god only knows what…	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - about 7 hours ago	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	bill gates dumps his money into philanthropy. shuttleworth dumps his money into things that look like philanthropy.	Jun 16 18:07
schestowitz	with few exceptions, shuttleworth seems less full of it than gates. even with that whole “we have root” complete bs. (they have root, its a circular argument that dishonestly sidestepped the criticism.)	Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15200170#9bb3b9f0725301373d8c2986f53bbfc6	Jun 16 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #freesw = geeks writing code and #sharing their work to eliminate #microsoft #monopoly or #gafam abuses OpenSource® = corporations lodging little pieces of code on Microsoft’s site (GitHub) to compete with the above group by assimilation tactics		Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz		Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz	its hard to trademark freedom they didnt manage to trademark open source either (but it is all about ayyyy pee)	Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15200170#9bb3b9f0725301373d8c2986f53bbfc6	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	theyve done this for too long	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	https://invidio.us/watch?v=6AvMUR_XMlg	Jun 16 18:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us \| Hugh Laurie - Too Long Johnny - Invidious		Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz		Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - about 6 hours ago	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	“OSI, Open Source Initiative, and OSI logo (“OSI Logo”), either separately or in combination, are hereinafter referred to as “OSI Trademarks” and are trademarks of the Open Source Initiative. Except as provided in these guidelines, you may not use the OSI Trademarks or any confusingly similar mark as a trademark for your product”	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	(but you can use open-source to mean any kind of #openwashing you want) https://opensource.org/trademark-guidelines	Jun 16 18:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensource.org \| OSI Trademark Guidelines \| Open Source Initiative		Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	#hoovering #durex #bandaid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark	Jun 16 18:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Generic trademark - Wikipedia		Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	A trademark thus popularized has its legal protection at risk in some countries such as the United States and United Kingdom, as its intellectual property rights in the trademark may be lost and competitors enabled to use the genericized trademark to describe their similar products, unless the owner of an affected trademark works sufficiently to correct and prevent such broad use.[2][3][4]	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	Thermos,[5] Kleenex, Q-Tip, ChapStick, Aspirin, Dumpster, Band-Aid, Velcro, Hoover, Jet Ski, Speedo, Google, Uber and TASER are examples of trademarks that have become genericized in the US and elsewhere.	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	goof pointer	Jun 16 18:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15169010#7e18f1807040013725460cc47a07853c	Jun 16 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Huawei fork/branch/derivative of AOSP/Android is very good news for #linux and the #gpl Why? Because #google (increasingly GPL-hostile) thought it could carry the market inertia to a non-Linux, non-GPL OS. Guess what? #china resists.		Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	an app is a more self-contained, more obnoxious, more troublesome repackaging of what people used to call “applications.”	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	it is usually found on “devices” which are more self-contained, more obnoxious, more troublesome repackaging of what people used to call “computers.”	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	Roy, the tricky requirement to satisfy is that of connectivity. people want computers that can be used on the go for instant communication, web browsing and whatnot. how do you provide that without surveillance? how can you get calls and messages without a centralized server tracking your every movement? we use open, community (meshed?) WiFi, very much like OLPC intended, and we communicate over Tor, so that you can be reached at your	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	Onion address without anyone’s being able to track you! neat, eh?	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	@Alexandre Oliva its very cool. i dont know if its possible without surveillance, really. but we should keep looking for the best way.	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	its like fighting aids. we havent necessarily found the cure yet, but we have something to show for our efforts. with computing, with the ideal of not having a surveillance state, most people have/will (as the ceo of google suggested) simply give up on privacy. fortunately we havent done that with aids, even though weve known about it for at least 40 years (cancer even longer.) we keep trying, because it will never be solved otherwise.	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15183603#b5314ae070c40137ad7652540039b762	Jun 16 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fossbytes seriously needs to stop glorifying criminals and crooks like #billgates and #elonmusk I'm really getting sick of/fed up with this site. But I realise they have >different< writers. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique		Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights		Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	Oligarchs	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	does bill gates have any money to be made from forced vaccinations?	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	#socialismfortherichnotthepoor	Jun 16 18:11
schestowitz	'https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15177724#d13da8e0702b01374b67723c91a982a6	Jun 16 18:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fossbytes has been a #Qualcomm propaganda machine this past week. I don't suppose they know just to what degree Qualcomm is a foe of #freesw or "FOSS" as the site calls it.		Jun 16 18:12
schestowitz	"I have notices Fossbytes doesn’t talk much about “FOSS”…"	Jun 16 18:12
schestowitz	About 15$ of the time. It was different when the site was young	Jun 16 18:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15017227#21f14b7070720137ec207a163ef10931	Jun 16 18:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #climatechange #globalwarming https://twitter.com/PaulEDawson/status/1132751761947516928		Jun 16 18:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PaulEDawson: “The fact that you can now ship with a container ship through the Arctic along the Northern Sea Route, when even ju… https://t.co/KGN8xi2GlT		Jun 16 18:13
schestowitz	"There is a clause in our covenant that guarantees that God helps those who help themselves - though there seems to be many loopholes…	Jun 16 18:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15190341#9f8fe1e0713b0137ec327a163ef10931	Jun 16 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Linux -powered #System76 Gazelle laptop allows users to avoid the Windows Tax https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-powered-system76-gazelle-laptop-allows-users-to-avoid-the-windows-tax/		Jun 16 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techrepublic.com \| Linux-powered System76 Gazelle laptop allows users to avoid the Windows Tax - TechRepublic		Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	Small steps…	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - a day ago	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	avoiding the windows tax is great-- buying used avoids the windows tax as well.	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	See, no one listens to me when I complain about System76’s trash laptops and trash customer service. But people keep showing up who’ve been screwed by them.	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	(5-year-old link) https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1pwwr0/system76_is_screwing_me_need_a_laptop/	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	me (freemedia) → i was going to buy a system76 laptop years ago, @Alexandre Oliva steered me away from it.	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	the best reason to avoid would be if they used hardware that required non-free drivers. i dont know what the status on that is. im glad there are non-windows oems, though the fsf doesnt recommend any s76 machines. on top of that, they come with #systemd and #ubuntu. there are so many reasons im not interested. this started when i was unhappy with s76 customer service, after i tried to buy one model and was then told they didnt have it. i	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	felt bait and switched, but this was longer ago than that link. have they improved substantially?	Jun 16 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com \| System76 is screwing me -- need a laptop : linux		Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	tomgrz - about 11 hours ago	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	Buying used also helps our environment. And buying used also helps starve the Beast. All of my most recent purchases have been through Craigslist and at the Salvation Army - though I hear Tag Sales and Flea Markets are also pretty good!	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 16 18:14
schestowitz	tomgrz - about 11 hours ago	Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	Ubuntu is such a No-Go that I lose faith in System76 seeing that that is installed.	Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	'	Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	They could easily rebase on Debian or Devuan	Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15160558#0cd5ca0070770137ec207a163ef10931	Jun 16 18:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mozilla 'foundation' finally found the issue with its corporation (greed) and #firefox (subpar #programming in recent years) It was all about the logo [sarcasm] https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/firefox-the-evolution-of-a-brand/		Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	"	Jun 16 18:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blog.mozilla.org \| Firefox: The Evolution Of A Brand - Mozilla Open Design		Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	theyre both suitable, established terms-- if you like one better, id recommend promoting the term you prefer.	Jun 16 18:15
schestowitz	remember that its your opinion and other people may respond to “copyleft” better. but use the term you think will do the best, if thats your goal.	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	Yes, “Sharealike Software” sounds good, and does not have “commie” or legalistic connotations. How about “Generous Software”?	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	i think generous is far too vague. sounds nice-- doesnt tell you anything about it.	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	share"alike" is established from the old phrase “share and share alike” and actually implies the same terms apply downstream-- which is what copyleft implies.	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	“reciprocal” “mutual” “universal” (universal is too vague. also misleading.)	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 16 18:16
schestowitz	Yeah, “sharing” is good. The old, bad association of “share” with “shareware” is pretty-much forgotten.	Jun 16 18:16
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schestowitz	瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭桪浡祢猯慴畴⽳ㄱ〴㐴〵㘳㈱㠴㐸㤹	Jun 17 06:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140445036124884992	Jun 17 06:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Hidden behind "additional OS options", but it's still nice to have available. https://t.co/YUMt8yKscT		Jun 17 06:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Lenovo #ThinkPad P Laptops Are Available with #Ubuntu https://t.co/7rGXhsMP0v		Jun 17 06:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140445121307000832	Jun 17 06:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Microsoft pays OEMs a lot of money not to advertise or recommend Linux.		Jun 17 06:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SandraEckersley/status/1140447852717473792	Jun 17 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SandraEckersley: @schestowitz This is an important point completely missed by #Assange supporters. https://t.co/YoaRpAB01a		Jun 17 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SandraEckersley: Really interesting #PlanetAmerica points on Julian #Assange & US extradition. Chas has found UK can’t extradite for… https://t.co/5tvh27r9ab		Jun 17 06:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140498318092578816	Jun 17 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz sorry, for opsec reasons I prefer not to say too much about where I am; yes, I was travelling. back now.		Jun 17 07:53
schestowitz	"https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140498318092578816"	Jun 17 07:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140498318092578816	Jun 17 07:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140498805055479808	Jun 17 07:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: won't somebody think of the children - that's how it goes, isn't it...? https://t.co/Co58H42REp		Jun 17 07:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #ukipo participates in obligatory school #indoctrination for #copyright barons. I don't suppose UK-IPO gives a damn… https://t.co/uCkXAj3Dpv		Jun 17 07:54
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140498805055479808	Jun 17 07:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140498877046562816	Jun 17 07:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @zoobab @maradydd @schestowitz @fsf @webmink keep spreading the word...		Jun 17 07:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140499736874516480	Jun 17 07:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Dangerous copyright terrorist. /s https://t.co/Wjhcztrq4D		Jun 17 07:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "It represents Dotcom's final attempt to avoid extradition to the United States, where he faces criminal charges in… https://t.co/JkPDcJrexz		Jun 17 07:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VlYgor/status/1140508385097461760	Jun 17 07:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VlYgor: @schestowitz the hell exsisted " google drive!		Jun 17 07:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VlYgor/status/1140508385097461760	Jun 17 07:58
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1140542213862150144	Jun 17 13:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: The EPO cannot be fixed, most intergovernmental organizations suffer a democratic problem. EPO is governed by the u… https://t.co/TQynhg5Usi		Jun 17 13:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: The EPO cannot be fixed, most intergovernmental organizations suffer a democratic problem. EPO is governed by the u… https://t.co/TQynhg5Usi		Jun 17 13:55
schestowitz	"The EPO cannot be fixed, most intergovernmental organizations suffer a democratic problem. EPO is governed by the unelected executive, and national patent offices (NPOs). Same problem for the second legislator of the European Union http://techrights.org/2019/06/17/russophobia/ … #democracy"	Jun 17 13:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Weaponising Russophobia Against One’s Critics \| Techrights		Jun 17 13:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1140533665765711872	Jun 17 14:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz I have to go to one of those patent conferences to get my blood level high again...		Jun 17 14:16
schestowitz	don't go	Jun 17 14:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140603089390592000	Jun 17 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: sickening https://t.co/H9afrqTkO0		Jun 17 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: The Dark Side of #Brexit : Britain’s Ethnic Minorities Are Facing More and More Violence https://t.co/yAm2WhrMvk @glynmoody		Jun 17 14:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/23_L/status/1140604972620492800	Jun 17 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@23_L: Julian Assange https://t.co/T5K1YAJxsh		Jun 17 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Chris Hedges: The Coming Show Trial of Julian #Assange https://t.co/R9CsZVxZiY		Jun 17 14:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/totitolvukall/status/1140615880327327744	Jun 17 16:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@totitolvukall: @jjaone @RedHatEMEA @schestowitz Pretty much this. If you want an OS for innovation, you don't choose one riddled w… https://t.co/i9RxThBIZV		Jun 17 16:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@totitolvukall: @jjaone @RedHatEMEA @schestowitz Pretty much this. If you want an OS for innovation, you don't choose one riddled w… https://t.co/i9RxThBIZV		Jun 17 16:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/redhog_org/status/1140636470564327425	Jun 17 17:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@redhog_org: Well, on PC:s this is not a problem - but the same architecture is everywhere in the phone market - installing a cu… https://t.co/fJmsUX7NBt		Jun 17 17:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@redhog_org: Well, on PC:s this is not a problem - but the same architecture is everywhere in the phone market - installing a cu… https://t.co/fJmsUX7NBt		Jun 17 17:22
schestowitz	"	Jun 17 17:22
schestowitz	Egil Moeller Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 17 17:22
schestowitz	Well, on PC:s this is not a problem - but the same architecture is everywhere in the phone market - installing a custom OS on a phone is reserved to a few tinkering nerds, and not something an average consumer can do to an average phone.	Jun 17 17:22
schestowitz	"	Jun 17 17:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/csolisr/status/1140644662543310848	Jun 17 17:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@csolisr: @schestowitz It was widely criticized when Arab countries such as Bahrain and the UAE started to nationalize foreig… https://t.co/OWLfOUzB6A		Jun 17 17:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@csolisr: @schestowitz It was widely criticized when Arab countries such as Bahrain and the UAE started to nationalize foreig… https://t.co/OWLfOUzB6A		Jun 17 17:24
schestowitz	"It was widely criticized when Arab countries such as Bahrain and the UAE started to nationalize foreign athletes to compete under their flag in the Olympics. If their intentions seemed shady at first, this case of doping makes it even more suspicious."	Jun 17 17:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140657791712890880	Jun 17 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: If Google copied the lyrics from "Genius", but had the rights to reproduce the lyrics, then what they did was proba… https://t.co/TsGiclSYyh		Jun 17 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: If Google copied the lyrics from "Genius", but had the rights to reproduce the lyrics, then what they did was proba… https://t.co/TsGiclSYyh		Jun 17 18:04
schestowitz	"If Google copied the lyrics from "Genius", but had the rights to reproduce the lyrics, then what they did was probably legal, if underhanded. I'm wondering if Genius spent time to clean up the lyrics they got from their sources."	Jun 17 18:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140657926333325314	Jun 17 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I've always been curious about the legality of Google and other search engines making copies of the entire public W… https://t.co/afTLnQWhZg		Jun 17 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I've always been curious about the legality of Google and other search engines making copies of the entire public W… https://t.co/afTLnQWhZg		Jun 17 18:04
schestowitz	"I've always been curious about the legality of Google and other search engines making copies of the entire public Web for purposes of indexing."	Jun 17 18:04
schestowitz	can be blocked by robots.txt	Jun 17 18:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PuppyKhan/status/1140662100752261120	Jun 17 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PuppyKhan: @jhamby In other contexts, even if you have rights to something (ie out of copyright) does not mean you have rights… https://t.co/U3jpAIP15R		Jun 17 18:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PuppyKhan: @jhamby In other contexts, even if you have rights to something (ie out of copyright) does not mean you have rights… https://t.co/U3jpAIP15R		Jun 17 18:05
schestowitz	"In other contexts, even if you have rights to something (ie out of copyright) does not mean you have rights to other people's uses or extra work put into it such as editing or translation. Mapmakers are known to leave miniscule intentional errors to catch plagiarizers"	Jun 17 18:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wfvoogd/status/1140664208176099329	Jun 17 18:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz Will be in the market for a new one soon and this may get on the shortlist.		Jun 17 18:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140666863866667011	Jun 17 18:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz That's true. Maybe Google figures that there aren't any laws against ignoring robots.txt? I wouldn't put it past them.		Jun 17 18:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1140671027997020160	Jun 17 18:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Boris Johnson comes from Trumpland, where he grew up, so... https://t.co/r6eqUspFDI		Jun 17 18:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Boris Johnson comes from Trumpland, where he grew up, so... https://t.co/r6eqUspFDI		Jun 17 18:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bevoeten/status/1140668518989479937	Jun 17 18:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bevoeten: @schestowitz I would put the Purism systems on 1. but unfortunately they don't ship to Europe.		Jun 17 18:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140669995250176000	Jun 17 18:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Actually, there's a worse problem for companies that compete against Google: if they add an exclusion… https://t.co/mCQXsq5sE8		Jun 17 18:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @schestowitz Actually, there's a worse problem for companies that compete against Google: if they add an exclusion… https://t.co/mCQXsq5sE8		Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz	"	Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz	Actually, there's a worse problem for companies that compete against Google: if they add an exclusion to robots.txt, then they won't be indexed by Google, which is the kiss of death for referrals. But if they don't, Google steals their content and they don't get visited at all.	Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz	0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes	Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz		Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz	"	Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz	This relates to publishers who moaned about Google News 'stealing'; so when Google removed them they moaned about loss of traffic. :-)	Jun 17 18:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ProgrammerDude/status/1140671279822966784	Jun 17 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ProgrammerDude: Okay, so we're official. nice https://t.co/mPmtH1COOB		Jun 17 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "ThinkPads have often been the laptop of choice for Linux users" https://t.co/jn5wqqYDZx		Jun 17 18:33
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1140672754414510081	Jun 17 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The article confirms a well-known problem, but it selectively focuses on government spending as the po… https://t.co/gDRCHYXcf3		Jun 17 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The article confirms a well-known problem, but it selectively focuses on government spending as the po… https://t.co/gDRCHYXcf3		Jun 17 18:33
schestowitz	"	Jun 17 18:33
schestowitz	The article confirms a well-known problem, but it selectively focuses on government spending as the potential solution, and is too EU-friendly.	Jun 17 18:33
schestowitz	0 replies 0 retweets 1 like	Jun 17 18:34
schestowitz		Jun 17 18:34
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Jun 18 05:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 05:58
schestowitz	> Sparse news coverage from the weekend.	Jun 18 05:58
schestowitz	An exceptionally slow Monday as well. Struggling to keep tuxmachines apace.	Jun 18 05:58
schestowitz	> maybe theres an article here. this is a conversation i was having with tomgrz.	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	> weve talked about this before and it isnt really new. ive heard more though since the previous time we talked about it.	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	> im basically just showing it to you as possible inspiration for future coverage.	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	> how about that other article you wanted?	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	> is that something youd still like or did we come to the conclusion/agreement that it overlapped enough with the already-published one that it was superfluous (i still lean that way, but what would you like?)	Jun 18 06:00
schestowitz	I think the article about linus and gregkh might be interested. I don't want to pick on devuan; they have enough problems already.	Jun 18 06:01
schestowitz	> might help if i include the actual conversation (i intended to)	Jun 18 06:02
schestowitz	Interesting.	Jun 18 07:00
schestowitz	They are so vulnerable, however, that it's better not to pick on them. They mean well (Devuan).	Jun 18 07:00
schestowitz	We could, instead make use of more wiki pages:	Jun 18 07:00
schestowitz	kongstad	Jun 18 07:00
schestowitz	ceipi	Jun 18 07:00
schestowitz	;-)	Jun 18 07:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/yarraspot/status/1140804658404839424	Jun 18 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yarraspot: @schestowitz @Lenin Fire works are banned in Galapagos 2019. No more U.S. Military Bases! Galapagos Celebrates 4… https://t.co/Ac4E0wjm2t		Jun 18 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yarraspot: @schestowitz @Lenin Fire works are banned in Galapagos 2019. No more U.S. Military Bases! Galapagos Celebrates 4… https://t.co/Ac4E0wjm2t		Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	Fire works are banned in Galapagos 2019.	Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	No more U.S. Military Bases!	Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	Galapagos Celebrates 40 Years as a UNESCO World Heritage	Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	9 Sep 2018 · This weekend marked the 40th anniversary of Galapagos being declared a UNESCO World Heritage site. In 1978, this ...	Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	#Veganpriorities	Jun 18 07:32
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:33
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140811867570311169	Jun 18 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I'm not sure a firewall would do much to stop this bug since it's at the TCP layer. Selective ACK is a useful featu… https://t.co/R3nF8p4ng2		Jun 18 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I'm not sure a firewall would do much to stop this bug since it's at the TCP layer. Selective ACK is a useful featu… https://t.co/R3nF8p4ng2		Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	More Jake Hamby Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	I'm not sure a firewall would do much to stop this bug since it's at the TCP layer. Selective ACK is a useful feature for mobile data because of high latency: easier to just resend the bad packets and not the bad packet and all following ones. Not surprised it's prone to DDoS.	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1140812656405696512	Jun 18 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: That was definitely nice of Netflix to contribute patches for FreeBSD as well as Linux. I'd guess SACK support is s… https://t.co/s6HKIjoK96		Jun 18 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: That was definitely nice of Netflix to contribute patches for FreeBSD as well as Linux. I'd guess SACK support is s… https://t.co/s6HKIjoK96		Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	More	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	That was definitely nice of Netflix to contribute patches for FreeBSD as well as Linux. I'd guess SACK support is something they didn't want to just disable with so much mobile streaming. Google has been investing into moving off of TCP altogether (QUIC). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUIC	Jun 18 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| QUIC - Wikipedia		Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:35
schestowitz	> They are so vulnerable, however, that it's better not to pick on them. They mean well (Devuan).	Jun 18 07:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:39
schestowitz	> they mean better than well. theyre associated with dyne.org. if the fsf disbanded (i dont want that, i want them to pick up where they left off and get on the important things-- i do think ryf is important of course. so is gnu savannah. and gnu itself.) dyne and techrights would be the best thing going-- dyne on the software side, techrights on the advocacy side.	Jun 18 07:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> when i said how far it goes up, i mean even the devs are stifled by this nonsense. its like a civil war over there.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> and the people i know are the best people are xxxxxxx himself and xxxx (his first name is becoming public since the amsterdam videos but i still use his handly mostly.) xxxx ive met in person more than once-- hes holding onto a dyne.org branded usb for me that he picked up.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> devuans problem is its community. as much as rms is stifled by #cocs and interference, these people are stifled by toxic community leaders. ive said all that before, but these things take time to reach the public consciousness.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> imo it should be handled diplomatically, not with silence. the true nature of the problem (apparant to anybody looking for one-- including those who would take advantage) is the progress being stifled by sycophantic people that shoot messengers and hide the problems.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> please understand i mean them, not you. your desire to let them sort it out is sincere i know.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> if you prefer to leave it alone, im not going to talk too much about it. its all old news. imo it would help to get this toxic air in the open where it can dissipate and other people can help, if necessary. but its too much nonsense for me to try to stand against it alone. and the problem is bigger than devuan. thats why i think it needs more light on it.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> but im (more or less) content to wait until you agree on that.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> xxxxx (denis) and fsr (g) are decent people. like you, they dont want to wade too far in. but theyre aware of the problems.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>> We could, instead make use of more wiki pages: kongstad ceipi	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> no problem of course. let me make some tea and eat something, havent eaten all day. losing sleep and dealing with suicide threats from a loved one-- ive went through this before during my divorce. luckily, she was fine the last i was able to check-- a year or two after the divorce. with luck, it will be the same in this instance.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> but like many people when i have downtime from the crisis i use it to do whatever keeps me steady-- work and communication (not that it doesnt slow me down, it totally does.)	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	>	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	> all the best. and the tea is ready to pour.	Jun 18 07:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Frank61pc/status/1140839765253607425	Jun 18 07:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Frank61pc: @schestowitz It's getting a bit close the the pointy end for a range of views on Brexit. In fact 3 years ago was to… https://t.co/iWd1q1i96V		Jun 18 07:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Frank61pc: @schestowitz It's getting a bit close the the pointy end for a range of views on Brexit. In fact 3 years ago was to… https://t.co/iWd1q1i96V		Jun 18 07:44
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:44
schestowitz	It's getting a bit close the the pointy end for a range of views on Brexit. In fact 3 years ago was too close to the pointy end.	Jun 18 07:44
schestowitz	Labour = waffle and infighting.	Jun 18 07:44
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 07:44
schestowitz	Look what happened to them in EU elections	Jun 18 07:44
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KitzWengen/status/1140871630392057861	Jun 18 07:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KitzWengen: @schestowitz Ada Colau is pro-Nicolas Maduro, pro-islamists and pro-catalonian's separatist. She is far-left.		Jun 18 07:55
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 08:18
schestowitz	Sorry about that anti Semitic attack. I’ve deleted his comments and the post.	Jun 18 08:18
schestowitz	My apologies.	Jun 18 08:18
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 08:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Frank61pc/status/1140878926496931840	Jun 18 09:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Frank61pc: @schestowitz Oh, I'm not saying Corbyn or Watson is right, I'm saying that wanting a range of voices is a bit late in the game.		Jun 18 09:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Frank61pc/status/1140878926496931840	Jun 18 09:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VlYgor/status/1140878939608551424	Jun 18 09:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VlYgor: @schestowitz ....let me guess, you talked about criminal war?!		Jun 18 09:19
schestowitz	I always do	Jun 18 09:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/datenteiler/status/1140894843000041472	Jun 18 09:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@datenteiler: And the advice here is really simple: Get #Exim updated to 4.92 immediately. #Linux servers under attack... no comm… https://t.co/UPjw0rUDJT		Jun 18 09:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@datenteiler: And the advice here is really simple: Get #Exim updated to 4.92 immediately. #Linux servers under attack... no comm… https://t.co/UPjw0rUDJT		Jun 18 09:24
schestowitz	"And the advice here is really simple: Get #Exim updated to 4.92 immediately. #Linux servers under attack... no comment..."	Jun 18 09:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wfvoogd/status/1140898546708885504	Jun 18 09:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz It is also MSM who fail to do their job properly and just publish clickbait w/o audi alteram partem be… https://t.co/BvCv4DJUkM		Jun 18 09:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz It is also MSM who fail to do their job properly and just publish clickbait w/o audi alteram partem be… https://t.co/BvCv4DJUkM		Jun 18 09:44
schestowitz	"It is also MSM who fail to do their job properly and just publish clickbait w/o audi alteram partem because that just slows them down."	Jun 18 09:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GlennPegden/status/1140901849442279425	Jun 18 09:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GlennPegden: @schestowitz To be fair, remotely kernel panicking a huge percentage of internet facing facing devices is genuinely… https://t.co/6plQxiQnwm		Jun 18 09:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GlennPegden: @schestowitz To be fair, remotely kernel panicking a huge percentage of internet facing facing devices is genuinely… https://t.co/6plQxiQnwm		Jun 18 09:47
schestowitz	"To be fair, remotely kernel panicking a huge percentage of internet facing facing devices is genuinely pretty big. Few of the "blinky box" DDoS protection vendors seem to have patches out yet."	Jun 18 09:47
schestowitz	The whole Internet of Shit (IoT) hype and associated consumerism (collecting plastics with TCP/IP stack) was trouble all along, as many knew. In this case it's about slowing down or at most crashing them, not bricking them.	Jun 18 09:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GlennPegden/status/1140905880038379520	Jun 18 10:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GlennPegden: @schestowitz I hadn't even considered retail IOT stuff (good point though), I was more thinking about mega-corp web… https://t.co/U1hkMKBcb4		Jun 18 10:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GlennPegden: @schestowitz I hadn't even considered retail IOT stuff (good point though), I was more thinking about mega-corp web… https://t.co/U1hkMKBcb4		Jun 18 10:39
schestowitz	"I hadn't even considered retail IOT stuff (good point though), I was more thinking about mega-corp web services. I know at least 2 cloud-based DDoS mitigation services have now patched, but all those who rely on on-prem protection are waiting nervously on vendor patches"	Jun 18 10:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VlYgor/status/1140939703618871297	Jun 18 13:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VlYgor: @schestowitz así que los payasos de la inteligencia estanos muy ocupados		Jun 18 13:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1140943825873068037	Jun 18 13:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz The only way out for Docker Inc is to be bought by a big fish. Microsoft is probably the best candidate.		Jun 18 13:09
schestowitz	Microsoft can knock them down for a few more years like they did Nokia and Novell's patents, they buy it all cheaply	Jun 18 13:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1140948002175115264	Jun 18 13:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz well, because I was waiting for details; but it may be that the details don't matter...		Jun 18 13:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/patentbuddy/status/1140610266029314048	Jun 18 14:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@patentbuddy: The PTAB Reversed an Examiner's 101 Rejection of Claims for an Ordering Network Service over the Internet: https://t.co/nrIEN1LduU		Jun 18 14:05
schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90364152/embracing-open-source-could-be-a-big-competitive-advantage-for-businesses" rel="nofollow">Embracing open source could be a big competitive advantage for businesses</a></h5>	Jun 18 15:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fastcompany.com \| Open source could be a big competitive advantage for businesses		Jun 18 15:19
schestowitz	<blockquote>	Jun 18 15:19
schestowitz	<p>There are three simple guidelines we must follow to promote and safeguard open source innovation: contributing as much as we take; deepening our commitment to open governance; and collaborating openly, even with competitors, to drive innovation for the entire ecosystem. Looking at each of these more closely, there are some immediate steps that innovation leaders can take. </p>	Jun 18 15:19
schestowitz	</blockquote>	Jun 18 15:19
schestowitz	</li>	Jun 18 15:19
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Security Leftovers	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125013	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Programming/Development: Libhandy, anytime, JetBrains and More	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125012	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Programming/Development: Libhandy, anytime, JetBrains and More \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Your first robotic arm with Ubuntu Core, coming from Niryo	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125011	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Your first robotic arm with Ubuntu Core, coming from Niryo \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Games: Seeds of Resilience, Missed Messages, GIGABUSTER, Eagle Island	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125010	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: Seeds of Resilience, Missed Messages, GIGABUSTER, Eagle Island \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Radxa updates Rock Pi 4 with NVMe and debuts PoE HAT and a tiny RK3308-based voice board http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125008	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Radxa updates Rock Pi 4 with NVMe and debuts PoE HAT and a tiny RK3308-based voice board \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Zorin OS 15, An Overview for First Time Users	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125009	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Zorin OS 15, An Overview for First Time Users \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	today's howtos	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125007	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 GNOME and display server changes	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125006	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 GNOME and display server changes \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125005	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Compact Jetson TX2 computer has eight USB 3.0 ports http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125004	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Compact Jetson TX2 computer has eight USB 3.0 ports \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125003	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Android Low-Memory Killer--In or Out? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125002	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Low-Memory Killer--In or Out? \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	Links 18/6/2019: CentOS 8 Coming Soon, DragonFly BSD 5.6 Released http://techrights.org/2019/06/18/dragonfly-bsd-5-6-released/	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	today's leftovers	Jun 18 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Links 18/6/2019: CentOS 8 Coming Soon, DragonFly BSD 5.6 Released \| Techrights		Jun 18 19:31
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125001	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Security Leftovers	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125000	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Games: Project Zero Deaths, Littlewood, Ravenfield, ENCODYA	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124999	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: Project Zero Deaths, Littlewood, Ravenfield, ENCODYA \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Graphics: Khronos Group, Radeon Software and Wayland Pains	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124998	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Graphics: Khronos Group, Radeon Software and Wayland Pains \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Red Hat welcomes Oracle to the oVirt community	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124997	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat welcomes Oracle to the oVirt community \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Software: MapTool, Stratos and Xournal++	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124996	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software: MapTool, Stratos and Xournal++ \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Programming: Apache's Kafka, LLVM's Clang and Google's Go	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124995	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Programming: Apache's Kafka, LLVM's Clang and Google's Go \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Fedora: ppc64le, release-monitoring.org and GNOME Sessions	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124994	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora: ppc64le, release-monitoring.org and GNOME Sessions \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Games: Overcooked! 2, Stimulating Simulator Sale, PyGamer and Atari VCS	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124993	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: Overcooked! 2, Stimulating Simulator Sale, PyGamer and Atari VCS \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124992	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	A beginner's guide to Linux permissions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124991	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| A beginner's guide to Linux permissions \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	➬	Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	Stable kernels 5.1.11, 4.19.52, 4.14.127, 4.9.182, and 4.4.182 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124990	Jun 18 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org \| Stable kernels 5.1.11, 4.19.52, 4.14.127, 4.9.182, and 4.4.182 \| Tux Machines		Jun 18 19:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chadmccullough/status/1140996260696133632	Jun 18 20:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chadmccullough: Remove Trump from the White House....NOW! https://t.co/Wg6QJw5yc9		Jun 18 20:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: 'If This Is True, They Are Even Bigger Lunatics Than We Realized': #UN Officials Reportedly Believe #orangenazi Pla… https://t.co/PQbQqlUCEx		Jun 18 20:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/abcxyztea/status/1141000000932966401	Jun 18 20:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@abcxyztea: @schestowitz https://t.co/XudHYazEHl		Jun 18 20:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@abcxyztea: @schestowitz https://t.co/XudHYazEHl		Jun 18 20:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VlYgor/status/1141052608959995912	Jun 18 20:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VlYgor: @schestowitz rammstein		Jun 18 20:57
schestowitz	Now better known as base for drone strikes coordination	Jun 18 20:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Piano_Shop/status/1141060489222512640	Jun 18 20:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Piano_Shop: @schestowitz I do not believe they would have approved that. But to answer her concerns by shaming her into submiss… https://t.co/Z6DFP1co4c		Jun 18 20:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Piano_Shop: @schestowitz I do not believe they would have approved that. But to answer her concerns by shaming her into submiss… https://t.co/Z6DFP1co4c		Jun 18 20:59
schestowitz	"I do not believe they would have approved that. But to answer her concerns by shaming her into submission, is evidence of much greater problems in the school administration. Rubio should be fired"	Jun 18 20:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mjgranger1/status/1141061000185241600	Jun 18 20:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjgranger1: @schestowitz Um, WRONG. Julian Assange was not indicted for journalism, he was indicted by a grand jury because ba… https://t.co/ffMOUjy2EB		Jun 18 20:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjgranger1: @schestowitz Um, WRONG. Julian Assange was not indicted for journalism, he was indicted by a grand jury because ba… https://t.co/ffMOUjy2EB		Jun 18 20:59
schestowitz	"Um, WRONG. Julian Assange was not indicted for journalism, he was indicted by a grand jury because based on the EVIDENCE presented they believed it was more likely than not that he CONSPIRED to hack into gov't computers to obtain classified information. Conspiracy is a crime."	Jun 18 20:59
schestowitz	No, these are unproven allegations which were already disputed by those involved	Jun 18 21:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1141062983306510336	Jun 18 21:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: I wonder what Monsanto knew about the human health dangers of glyphosate (Roundup) and when they knew it. https://t.co/sxJsJYSSHP		Jun 18 21:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: The uphill battle for communities that ban #pesticides https://t.co/imhlhKxAg6 #glyphosate #cancer #monsanto #bayer		Jun 18 21:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/csolisr/status/1141067819188203520	Jun 18 21:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@csolisr: @dweinberger @schestowitz Yeah, Fox's whataboutism is sometimes too self-evident and this is one of those cases.		Jun 18 21:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1141076673162403842	Jun 18 21:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: #golang is controlled by Google, that much is true. But it's well-engineered, and its increasing popularity seems t… https://t.co/HH9xjIXNX5		Jun 18 21:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: #golang is controlled by Google, that much is true. But it's well-engineered, and its increasing popularity seems t… https://t.co/HH9xjIXNX5		Jun 18 21:24
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 21:24
schestowitz	Jake Hamby Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 18 21:24
schestowitz	#golang is controlled by Google, that much is true. But it's well-engineered, and its increasing popularity seems to be genuinely grassroots, as opposed to Google pushing it on anyone.	Jun 18 21:24
schestowitz	"	Jun 18 21:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/1141077843222261760	Jun 18 21:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @jhamby Yea, I don't think this is worth the effort. Better to focus on my essay/overview.		Jun 18 21:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1141086442371899392	Jun 18 22:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Photography and Linux #photography https://t.co/z4yrbcuBd7		Jun 18 22:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.linuxjournal.com \| Photography and Linux \| Linux Journal		Jun 18 22:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1141095510251638784	Jun 18 22:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz I used to go and have a chat to him about how much of a problem Thatcher was to deal with... https://t.co/05rYCgVXNs		Jun 18 22:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com \| Spitting Image: John Major's psychedelic hippy trip (1991) - YouTube		Jun 18 22:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1141119482208800768	Jun 19 00:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: He should have gone to Sweden to face the sexual assault charges. I'm not buying Assange's "persecuted hero" act, a… https://t.co/KXOloYlb6y		Jun 19 00:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: He should have gone to Sweden to face the sexual assault charges. I'm not buying Assange's "persecuted hero" act, a… https://t.co/KXOloYlb6y		Jun 19 00:56
schestowitz	"He should have gone to Sweden to face the sexual assault charges. I'm not buying Assange's "persecuted hero" act, although I'm angry at the US for going after him for embarrassing the regime."	Jun 19 00:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1141120095063687168	Jun 19 00:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: The only heroes in the Julian Assange story are the leakers who supplied WikiLeaks with material. Assange is basica… https://t.co/OzeDgCzMZw		Jun 19 00:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: The only heroes in the Julian Assange story are the leakers who supplied WikiLeaks with material. Assange is basica… https://t.co/OzeDgCzMZw		Jun 19 00:57
schestowitz	"The only heroes in the Julian Assange story are the leakers who supplied WikiLeaks with material. Assange is basically out for his own glory, which was fine until he decided that "no didn't mean no" with two Swedish women, and decided to play victim instead of defending himself."	Jun 19 00:57
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acer-box__	https://soc.ialis.me/users/Brienna/statuses/102294905601501561	Jun 19 01:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soc.ialis.me \| Brienna: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site laughably ironic" - soc.ialis.me mastodon		Jun 19 01:00
acer-box__	"laughably ironic"	Jun 19 01:00
acer-box__	https://mastodon.r3pek.org/users/r3pek/statuses/102294823568832467	Jun 19 01:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.r3pek.org \| Carlos Mogas da Silva: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site plz don't make the conf…" - r3pek's Mastodon		Jun 19 01:00
acer-box__	"plz don't make the confusion between linux and ubuntu. They are 2 different things and Linux itself isn't dropping 32bits support."	Jun 19 01:00
acer-box__	https://linuxrocks.online/users/DashEquals/statuses/102294438416771571	Jun 19 01:01
acer-box__	" I wonder if they're going to release a patch for Windows 2000..."	Jun 19 01:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| DashEquals: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site I wonder if they're goi…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 19 01:01
acer-box__	https://mastodon.social/users/TheOuterLinux/statuses/102294508057062229	Jun 19 01:01
acer-box__	"People need to stop using Ubuntu derivatives and start using either Debian or Arch based ones. Canonical partnered with Micro$oft years ago and no one should be shocked about anything they do. Ubuntu is not a community, it's mainly Satya Nadella, Mark Shitworthless, and Joey Sneddon for damage control. Don't worry, you 32-bit users can use my distro https://theouterlinux.gitlab.io/website/Projects/Linux/PsychOS/PsychOS.html."	Jun 19 01:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social \| TheOuterLinux ✅: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site People need to stop usi…" - Mastodon		Jun 19 01:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-theouterlinux.gitlab.io \| PsychOS		Jun 19 01:02
acer-box__	https://bakusocial.com/users/sporiff/statuses/102294039053016910	Jun 19 01:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bakusocial.com \| Ciarán Ainsworth 🇪🇺: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site It's okay. I remember a…" - Mastodon for Folklorists		Jun 19 01:02
acer-box__	"	Jun 19 01:02
acer-box__	It's okay. I remember a hurd developer talking about how they preferred 32-bit anyway, so there's still hope for 2050!	Jun 19 01:02
acer-box__		Jun 19 01:02
acer-box__	"	Jun 19 01:02
acer-box__	https://inditoot.com/users/second_foundation/statuses/102291495494487820	Jun 19 01:03
acer-box__	" is this a joke?"	Jun 19 01:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-inditoot.com \| second_foundation: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site is this a joke?" - Inditoot : An Indian Mastodon instance		Jun 19 01:03
acer-box__	no	Jun 19 01:03
acer-box__	https://freespeech.firedragonstudios.com/users/BlockShill/statuses/102291293003164942	Jun 19 01:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-freespeech.firedragonstudios.com \| Spooncooker: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site no more rediculouse or …" - Freespeech		Jun 19 01:04
acer-box__	"no more rediculouse or dangerous than msm."	Jun 19 01:04
acer-box__	https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/vik/statuses/102290695613469597	Jun 19 01:05
acer-box__	"I'm getting "page not found""	Jun 19 01:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.nzoss.nz \| * Required Field: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site I'm getting "page not f…" - Mastodon - NZOSS		Jun 19 01:05
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acer-box	https://scholar.social/users/tootbrute/statuses/102290090143775242	Jun 19 01:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-scholar.social \| booklord: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site if USA wants to bomb th…" - Scholar Social		Jun 19 01:09
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:09
acer-box	if USA wants to bomb the shit out of other countries, why even bother with this"WMD" and other weak justifications for war?	Jun 19 01:09
acer-box	America just be your true self.	Jun 19 01:09
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:09
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/_emacsomancer/statuses/102288577492799070	Jun 19 01:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| B. Slade :gnu: :emacs:: "After distro-hopping a lot, #VoidLinux is one dis…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	After distro-hopping a lot, #VoidLinux is one distro I tend to return to.	Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	@schestowitz	Jun 19 01:10
acer-box		Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	https://fosstodon.org/users/yarmo/statuses/102287874447112340	Jun 19 01:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org \| Yarmo: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site it sadly also talks abo…" - Fosstodon		Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	" it sadly also talks about Android, though for some reason only "high-end" Android...? "	Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	https://mstdn.io/users/strangecorn/statuses/102287480850386231	Jun 19 01:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mstdn.io \| StrangeCorn: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site #tds" - Mastodon		Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	#tds'"	Jun 19 01:10
acer-box	https://fuckonthefirst.date/objects/e05e5029-b07e-43d6-a292-f57accd23593	Jun 19 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fuckonthefirst.date \| Pleroma		Jun 19 01:11
acer-box	" I need to move back to CRUX tbh, I miss it"	Jun 19 01:11
acer-box	https://fuckonthefirst.date/objects/29f9094c-ee29-4303-9dfc-364214f628fb	Jun 19 01:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fuckonthefirst.date \| Pleroma		Jun 19 01:11
acer-box	" Kwort seems interesting though, I might check it out"	Jun 19 01:11
acer-box	https://scholar.social/users/tootbrute/statuses/102284011078833596	Jun 19 01:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-scholar.social \| booklord: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site cool! we need more opt…" - Scholar Social		Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	cool!	Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	we need more options like this.	Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	i need options i can recommend to my friends "buy this laptop". they don't know what an OS is, they just want to get their word processing and 'check the internet'	Jun 19 01:12
acer-box		Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	https://mastodon.social/users/fla/statuses/102282940572335940	Jun 19 01:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social \| Fla: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Sure. Do a backup of yo…" - Mastodon		Jun 19 01:12
acer-box	"Sure. Do a backup of your profile from the settings, you never know ;)"	Jun 19 01:12
schestowitz	> i checked out the links. i looked for something with broader appeal. im curious why youre excited about these.	Jun 19 01:15
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	> i know groklaw was important and i probably only visited twice, and i totally get that these stories are useful to someone.	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	> i wonder if youre just trying to create a research library, i mean with these two pages. i know you seem equally interested in broader content for people who might also wonder what ceipi and kongstad have to do with it, really. you certainly dont have to explain, though perhaps i might learn something. either way, im glad youre happy. and im happy to help. cheers.	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	> oh, p.s.:	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	> ever think of shifting (just barely, not all the way) towards copyright issues? questioncopyright is very close to karl fogel, osi and open source in general. theyve done some great stuff but im disappointed (for a few years now.) i used to have a tshirt. when i met kat walsh (the first time, not the second) it was a copyright-related event. the second time i was food shopping, and she noticed my fsf shirt.	Jun 19 01:16
schestowitz	one of our key goals is to abolish swpats everywhere, hence the focus on these topics/people/institutions.	Jun 19 01:16
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987149283722240000?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987149283722240000:0:0:0:987150271156666368	Jun 19 01:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| FOX News Poll: Bernie Sanders Would Beat Trump By 9 Points		Jun 19 01:27
acer-box	"Lol, I doubt it."	Jun 19 01:27
acer-box	"We all know that polls on who will win US elections are never wrong."	Jun 19 01:27
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986996734284369920?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986996734284369920:0:0:0:987151219086147584	Jun 19 01:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Linda Fairstein Is Still Trying to Take Down the Central Park Five		Jun 19 01:27
acer-box	"This makes the false claim that the CP5 were exhonerated and also ignores a great deal of the evidence against them https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273977/3-biggest-lies-about-central-park-five-jack-kerwick"	Jun 19 01:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.frontpagemag.com \| The 3 Biggest Lies About the Central Park Five \| Frontpage Mag		Jun 19 01:27
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/986998827331923968?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:986998827331923968:0:0:0:987137171453452288	Jun 19 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| 'We All Owe #AlGore An Apology': More People See #ClimateChange In Record #Flooding https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=730456004		Jun 19 01:28
acer-box	"More like Al fire owes everyone an apology for engaging in exaggeration and alarmism"	Jun 19 01:28
acer-box	"Floods have always sporadically happened throughout history and have had nothing to do with anthropogenic climate effects."	Jun 19 01:28
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987006101193142272?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987006101193142272:0:0:0:987134195507179520	Jun 19 01:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Why Islamic State Recruitment Is Thriving on Telegram		Jun 19 01:29
acer-box	"US intelligence funded nonsense. They are butthurt that their Facebook and Twitter involvement has made those platforms defunct."	Jun 19 01:29
acer-box	"ISIS uses Twitter and Facebook too, but the reason GWU is looking at telegram is because it isn't run by the US government"	Jun 19 01:29
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987013710710616064?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987013710710616064:0:0:0:987130847366262784	Jun 19 01:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| It’s Time for Progressives to Protect Women Instead of Pronouns - Quillette		Jun 19 01:29
acer-box	"No, this has nothing to do with 'rightwing zealots' - This is progressive leftists eating each other alive for dominance in special protections. When you start telling groups of people they can have special privileges not afforded to others then you create a competition for supremacy instead of equality"	Jun 19 01:29
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987020676528947200?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987020676528947200:0:0:0:987127922709577728	Jun 19 01:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Ayaan Hirsi Ali warns of Islamic anti-Semitism		Jun 19 01:30
acer-box	"Interesting how you are critical of honor killings but opposed to pointing out anti-Semitism"	Jun 19 01:30
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987212957651668992?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987212957651668992:0:0:0:987322848244957184	Jun 19 01:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Chinese Cyberattack Hits Telegram, App Used by Hong Kong Protesters		Jun 19 01:31
acer-box	'I stopped using Telegram when I realized they "rolled their own encryption" which is fraught with flaws in the software development world. It is more subject to various types of attacks and interruptions than the app Signal. It wasn't a matter of if, but when."	Jun 19 01:31
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987219737957711872?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987219737957711872:0:0:0:987320452258504704	Jun 19 01:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| 'They say the US approach, if enshrined in legal precedent, would have 'mums, dads and the kids' potentially facing criminal charges for breaches of copyright' https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12240546'		Jun 19 01:31
acer-box	"That's probably true. I don't agree with it, but it's probably true."	Jun 19 01:31
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987223857498861568?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987223857498861568:0:0:0:987320303266598912	Jun 19 01:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Tired of #$%& passwords? Single Sign-on could be savior		Jun 19 01:32
acer-box	"Nope, they're lying. They've been proving to been lying over and over and over and over again. Anything that keeps your data in a third-party database or silo, is a bad idea. https://sovrin.org/ solved this in a privacy-preserving way. We don't have to share our data like we use to. Now getting the mainstream world to adopt the technology? That's another story."	Jun 19 01:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sovrin.org \| Home - Sovrin		Jun 19 01:32
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987225780766982144?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987225780766982144:0:0:0:987319419384115200	Jun 19 01:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Opinion \| In Stores, Secret Bluetooth Surveillance Tracks Your Every Move		Jun 19 01:32
acer-box	"A lot of these you can turn off in the settings of your phone. Some of them, you can't and if these particular beacons are grabbing the transmissions you can't turn off in settings -- then yeah it sucks. A lot of retailers are moving to this for "marketing and customer service" purposes. I have as many as turned off as possible in my phone. Plus, with all the freaking cameras on you at every angle in the stores these days, I don't	Jun 19 01:32
acer-box	really know why they need this. They don't."	Jun 19 01:32
acer-box	These cameras don't tell them your identity unless you give a card for payment	Jun 19 01:32
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987228011957919744?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987228011957919744:0:0:0:987318780158640128	Jun 19 01:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| The Highly Dangerous 'Triton' Hackers Have Probed the US Grid		Jun 19 01:33
acer-box	"This is not really surprising. The infrastructure of these things in the US hasn't been "hardened" against these types of things -- at least according to the the regular public can find on the internet. We also haven't seen the government or state, or anything like that make efforts to do so. People have been warning about this for at least 15 years. Now, it doesn't mean the authorities have not stepped in to do so over the years.	Jun 19 01:33
acer-box	Maybe they have and we just haven't seen it -- but if not? It's not like people haven't been saying stuff -- again for years."	Jun 19 01:33
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987529558935683072?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987529558935683072:0:0:0:987532561931517952	Jun 19 01:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Without swift action on climate change, heat waves could kill thousands in U.S. cities		Jun 19 01:34
acer-box	"Just thinning out the herd. lol"	Jun 19 01:34
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987376821772836864?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987376821772836864:0:0:0:987382293620101120	Jun 19 01:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Web-based DNA sequencers getting compromised through old, unpatched flaw - Help Net Security		Jun 19 01:34
acer-box	"Impressive ... been looking for these type sites for awhile now since I saw a documentary about it."	Jun 19 01:34
acer-box	The state intervenes	Jun 19 01:34
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987180787747758080?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987180787747758080:0:0:0:987324788736827392	Jun 19 01:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| DSM Directive Series #6: 'hyperlinking' in the press publishers' right		Jun 19 01:35
acer-box	"I removed my earlier comment because I answered my own question."	Jun 19 01:35
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987208426943852544?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987208426943852544:0:0:0:987323091385884672	Jun 19 01:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| ‘Sign In With Apple’ Earns Mixed Reactions From App Makers		Jun 19 01:35
acer-box	"No thank you. https://sovrin.org/ is better in my opinion. Safer, privacy-preserving."	Jun 19 01:35
acer-box	never heard of it	Jun 19 01:35
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987575891277631488?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987575891277631488:0:0:0:987581390271995904	Jun 19 01:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Germany: Protest vigil in Dusseldorf demands release of Julian Assange		Jun 19 01:36
acer-box	"I see Trump Pardoning Assange on his way out."	Jun 19 01:36
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987576700971241472?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987576700971241472:0:0:0:987581051528122368	Jun 19 01:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Theresa May told to ask Donald Trump for CIA torture flights report		Jun 19 01:36
acer-box	"Yea, that won't happen. Intel agencies will bury that info til the next Presidency."	Jun 19 01:36
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987577266409603072?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987577266409603072:0:0:0:987577884960346112	Jun 19 01:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Request for Names of CIA Torturers Gets Boost From Ninth Circuit		Jun 19 01:36
acer-box	"That figures."	Jun 19 01:36
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987559118918635520?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987559118918635520:0:0:0:987575162494619648	Jun 19 01:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Linux on Windows helps systems administrators gain new skills		Jun 19 01:37
acer-box	"WSL is unusable except to say into a Linux box. Not enough software support, and weird filesystem glitches."	Jun 19 01:37
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987566107110883328?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987566107110883328:0:0:0:987572640687882240	Jun 19 01:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Techies, don't be too proud to learn new things		Jun 19 01:37
acer-box	"Lol, the condescension is horrible - do they know how awful they sound?"	Jun 19 01:37
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/media/987843547919888384?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987843547919888384:0:0:0:987845770154758144	Jun 19 01:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| #nature #wildlife #extinction #life		Jun 19 01:38
acer-box	"What a cutie !"	Jun 19 01:38
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987784380023148544?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987784380023148544:0:0:0:987787501639225344	Jun 19 01:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Greens welcome climate talks in UK, but government will have to change radically to avoid embarrassment \| The Green Party		Jun 19 01:38
acer-box	"The Myth of Man Made Climate Change https://notalemming.wordpress.com/crime-inc-joel-rogers-explains-the-myth-cap-and-trade/"	Jun 19 01:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-notalemming.wordpress.com \| The Myth of Man Made Climate Change \| YourDaddy's Politics		Jun 19 01:38
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/media/987698711539142656?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987698711539142656:0:0:0:987701585802690560	Jun 19 01:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| #fakenews #iran #satire #war #militarism		Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	"I wonder how many other pieces of garbage happen to be floating around near there. The ocean is fully of junk. Can they prove it came from the site? Can they authenticate how long it's been in the water? Etc. Etc. Etc. I'm so glad I'm learning the legal system for myself! It's soooooo much easier to see right through this stuff."	Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	it's a joke	Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987574947080519680?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987574947080519680:0:0:0:987582516049055744	Jun 19 01:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Sources: US to question Assange pal jailed in Ecuador		Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	You might be surprised. Take a look.	Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/981371939207356416	Jun 19 01:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Central America accounts for 1/3 of the world's homicides thanks mostly to the drug trade. It was announced today the President of Honduras is the target of a DEA money-laundering operation, but that only means he has outlived his usefulness. America -- either by proxy or direct CIA involvement -- perpetuates this trade to prop up banks & the country's captialism. Get pissed if you want, but the rest of the world sees our c		Jun 19 01:39
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:39
schestowitz	facts always matter. its just that nobody has a monopoly on them-- and people who claim one are difficult to trust (and should be.)	Jun 19 01:47
schestowitz	charlie brownau	Jun 19 01:47
schestowitz	charlie brownau - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:47
schestowitz	Still Anti Demorcy and Anti Right wing Dr Roy	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	while refusing to admit its the	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	LEFT	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	ANTIFA	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	LGBT	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	FEMINISM	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	that is actually the corrupt facists	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	charlie brownau	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	charlie brownau - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	The Global Marxist LEFT has such power and infection its replaced almost all of Western Society and Western System	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	facts always matter. its just that nobody has a monopoly on them-- and people who claim one are difficult to trust (and should be.)	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	charlie brownau	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	charlie brownau - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	Still Anti Demorcy and Anti Right wing Dr Roy	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	while refusing to admit its the	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	LEFT	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	ANTIFA	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	LGBT	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	FEMINISM	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	that is actually the corrupt facists	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	charlie brownau	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	charlie brownau - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	The Global Marxist LEFT has such power and infection its replaced almost all of Western Society and Western System	Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15195387#8087344071ec01377c290bd1e47	Jun 19 01:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@freemedia@thepirate.party reshared: In a polarised political climate where fascists call those who oppose #fascism "fascists" and call HRC corrupt while ignoring #trump #corruption facts don't matter anymore. They also claim white males are victims of "genocide".		Jun 19 01:48
schestowitz		Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	thats also true.	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15197966#41fcf8f072fa013725440cc47a07853c	Jun 19 01:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Greg Kroah-Hartman giving #microsoft more control over #linux http://kroah.com/log/blog/2019/06/15/linux-stable-tree-mirror-at-github/		Jun 19 01:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> kroah.com \| Linux stable tree mirror at github - Linux Kernel Monkey Log		Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	we really are going to miss that douchebag linus http://slated.org/torvalds_hatred_of_microsoft_critics_is_a_disease	Jun 19 01:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-slated.org \| Torvalds' Hatred of Microsoft Critics is a Disease \| Slated		Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	because the linux foundation is a good preview of what we can expect from gkh when he takes over.	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	Will Debian retrieve the GNU/Linux kernel from Github? I see a fork on the horizon…	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:49
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman	Jun 19 01:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Greg Kroah-Hartman - Wikipedia		Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	Greg Kroah-Hartman is a Linux kernel developer. He is the Linux kernel maintainer for the -stable branch, the staging subsystem, USB, driver core, debugfs, kref, kobject, and the sysfs kernel subsystems, Userspace I/O, and TTY layer. He also created linux-hotplug, the udev project, and the Linux Driver Project. He worked for Novell in the SUSE Labs division and, works at the Linux Foundation.	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	Novell? SUSE? Linux Foundation? Ugh!	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	If I was to compromise the security of Linux, I would focus on the USB driver core.	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	SATA would be good also…	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	sata has its own microcontroller in it.	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	^Joy! More to work with!	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	tomgrz - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	Almost all USB devices have embedded microcontrollers also - I don’t know the range of capabilities.	Jun 19 01:50
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 01:50
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15197865#ffa269f0720b013725460cc47a07853c	Jun 19 01:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I used to think PR people were the "fallen angels" of #journalism but given the relative sizes of this industry (and net pay) it seems more like so-called 'journalists' in #corporatemedia are the "fallen angels" or propagandist giants. Same for scholars and think tanks.		Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	'	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	pr: first circle of hell	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	journalists: second circle	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	its not because the pr people are better, its because the pr peoples job is to lie, and the journalists are just volunteering to. pr people actually do the job theyre paid to do. journalists take money for one job, and then work (against that) for someone else instead. pr people are dirty, but journalists are traitors. mainstream journalists, that is. the GOOD journalists (assange) who actually do what theyre supposed to get all the “	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	credit” for being traitors. which just goes to show you who cares about us-- certainly not the government. they oppress/murder people for not lying to us.	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	Yes, I no longer trust most of them - especially those who are graduated from Harvard. I have recently caught a few episodes of Mo Rocca’s “Innovation Nation”, and a more propagandistic presentation of technology you will never likely see.	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	For instance, just today, he was “praising” those people who were Ham-radio operators - while simultaneously presenting it as no longer “a thing”	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:51
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15201747#e571f260727701373d9a2986f53bbfc6	Jun 19 01:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: linux dot com in 2001 https://web.archive.org/web/20010531130331/http://www.linux.com/		Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> web.archive.org \| Linux.com - A Means to World Liberation!		Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	fucking penguins. not one gnu there.	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	you couldnt do a wiki page on #gnuwashing – it would have links to half the internet on it.	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	Alexandre Oliva	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	Alexandre Oliva - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	gnutralized	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	nice one	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	ha	Jun 19 01:52
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15220700#6542c2f0742701373da42986f53bbfc6	Jun 19 01:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Me: #gnu #linux is great as it supports your old hardware Canonical: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/ubuntu-is-dropping-all-32-bit-support-going-forward #plannedobsolescence		Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Ubuntu Confirms It's Dropping All 32-bit Support Going Forward - OMG! Ubuntu!		Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	ubuntu just got more worthless-- even compared to debian	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	but wait!	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	so did trisquel, presumably. is debian next? debian tends to copy as many poor decisions from ubuntu as possible these days.	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	Don Little	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	Don Little - about 3 hours ago	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	There are fewer and fewer distros supporting 32-bit. But there are still a bunch of them out there. The 32 bit machines are becoming rarer.	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party - about 3 hours ago	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	problem is that trisquel is pretty much fsfs flagship distro. i know it used to be gnewsense (still important because architectures trisquel doesnt cover) and its not going to be trisquel forever (if guix were userfriendly, or hyperbola were ready, that could be the next one.)	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	it seems unfair to both trisquel and the fsf for this to happen to hardware support. if we all had suitable sbcs for replacing a server or laptop, this would be fine. if i can throw out a 4-core laptop and use a riscv board and trisquel will support it when it drops 32bit, i guess thats ok?	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	but trisquel was solid. it just got flimsier-- and thats after being saddled with systemd. im just going to tell people to forget trisquel, its got less to offer than ever. ubuntu is dropping upstart and has no systemd alternative at all. its a bad time. not getting better.	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:54
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15187057#ecbc9db070f2013725400cc47a07853c	Jun 19 01:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Q: why do so many people not trust the #police and even hate cops? A: https://www.commondreams.org/further/2019/06/12/police-report-deems-firing-55-shots-35-seconds-sleeping-black-duh-man-reasonable		Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.commondreams.org \| Police Report Deems Firing 55 Shots In 3.5 Seconds At A Sleeping (Black, Duh) Man "Reasonable" \| Common Dreams Further		Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	https://share.naturalnews.com/posts/1794017	Jun 19 01:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-share.naturalnews.com \| so you dont trust the president– and you dont trust the pentagon– a...		Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com	Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 4 days ago	Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	by the way, when i talk about how horrible california is, this is just one more example.	Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	we should not be doing business with california. its impossible to avoid, we can do what we can at least.	Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	some places are awful, some very affluent	Jun 19 01:55
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15190588#3805309071400137ec367a163ef10931	Jun 19 01:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #ExpressionAmrilato , a Yuri Visual Novel that teaches some Esperanto has a same-day #Linux release on GOG https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-expression-amrilato-a-yuri-visual-novel-that-teaches-some-esperanto-has-a-same-day-linux-release-on-gog.14371		Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Expression Amrilato, a Yuri Visual Novel that teaches some Esperanto has a same-day Linux release on GOG \| GamingOnLinux		Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	We should all learn Esperanto. It would be a good start to overcoming misunderstanding.	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	Alessandro Ebersol	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	Alessandro Ebersol - 4 days ago	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	enter image description here	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	How about an Esperanto Diaspora* :-)	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party - 4 days ago	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	We should all learn Esperanto. It would be a good start to overcoming misunderstanding.	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	needs proof	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	Good semantics is a strong factor for a good programming language. Fewer coding errors.	Jun 19 01:56
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	I know what you are going to say - so I’ll repeat: “a good start”	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	'	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15214118#7b2c9a5073af0137ec327a163ef10931	Jun 19 01:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Defense Department Is Worried About #ClimateChange — and Also a Huge Carbon Emitter https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/06/17/defense-department-worried-climate-change-huge-carbon-emitter #imperialism is killing us all		Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.desmogblog.com \| The Defense Department Is Worried About Climate Change — and Also a Huge Carbon Emitter \| DeSmogBlog		Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	“Left Hand, meet Right Hand.”	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	“Uh, Sorry, I’m in a hurry, got other things to do…”	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	freemedia@thepirate.party - about 18 hours ago	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	“weve got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand” - neil young	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	^ greener	Jun 19 01:57
acer-box	'	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15202052#cbae6c80728b0137ec2e7a163ef10931	Jun 19 01:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The right wing in #Israel apparently has no strategy left other than inciting #Europe against Muslim immigrants, hoping to deflect distrust if not hate https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/23145		Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	'"	Jun 19 01:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.israelnationalnews.com \| Islamist migrants - Israel National News		Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	A racist strategy.	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	tomgrz - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	They want their women treated by female medical personnel and not by males	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	Horrible! (Not).	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 01:58
acer-box	tomgrz - 2 days ago	Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	Why would an Israeli be so concerned about what Muslim immigrants may or may not want in Europe?	Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	Oh.	Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	"	Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	Looking for sympathy. dehumanising people	Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15221270#ba622ee0743301373d9c2986f53bbfc6	Jun 19 01:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Yes, #concentrationcamps https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/		Jun 19 01:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.esquire.com \| Concentration Camps Expert Andrea Pitzer: The Trump Administration Is Running Camps at the Southern Border		Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	"this is where antifa should be focusing, not on thought policing first amendment rights."	Jun 19 01:59
acer-box	China has similar things	Jun 19 02:00
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15214189#536223b073b90137ec2e7a163ef10931	Jun 19 02:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We're not "poor" (man-made concept anyway). We're robbed. Lee Camp: "This number keeps popping up: $21 Trillion in unaccounted adjustments at the Pentagon over 20 years $21T+ national debt $21T in wealth concentrated to the top. We need that kind of money for infrastructure, healthcare, education, & community development!"		Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	"	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	Oh, we have a budget deficit. Too many Foodstamp people eating food at government expense…	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	Binario011	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	Binario011 - about 19 hours ago	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	Corporate welfare, billions of dollers to bail out banks as well as a thriving military-industrial complex.	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	tomgrz	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	tomgrz - about 15 hours ago	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	But But Potato Chips. Or should I say “Potatoe” Chips.	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	"	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15205063#b7b6b21073100137641c0218b72fdf43	Jun 19 02:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo ThinkPad P Laptops Are Available with Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124954		Jun 19 02:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| Lenovo ThinkPad P Laptops Are Available with Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	"Mine is a ref. One, from the times they made Good things, to last. Not those crappy ultrabooks (arrghhhh)"	Jun 19 02:01
acer-box	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15205424#c443a55c-175d-0748-33c4-947138395893	Jun 19 02:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: R.T. Russell's Z80 BBC Basic is now open source http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124959		Jun 19 02:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| R.T. Russell's Z80 BBC Basic is now open source \| Tux Machines		Jun 19 02:02
acer-box	"@Linux Good news there. This opens up basic to new devices."	Jun 19 02:02
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Jun 19 07:31
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:31
schestowitz	> I see that TM went down during the night just after 22 UTC but that I	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> slept through the alarm, having just gone to sleep around 20 UTC:	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> www.tuxmachines.org down 2019-06-19 01:11:22	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> I notice there were still errors:	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> 190609 16:47:02 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Incorrect key file for	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> table '/tmp/#sql_7a1_1.MYI'; try to repair it	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> 190609 16:47:02 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Sort aborted	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	> so I just ran mysqlcheck and it seemed to report fixing a few things.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	That's strange.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	I'm still connection to it over ssh.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	I did not receive a downtime alert.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	Is it possible that heavy load caused this issue?	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	I assume you did not reboot.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	It's possible that the DB needed repairing anyway; so maybe that's a net gain.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	I'm away for the whole day next Wednesday (work), so won't be near a computer all day.	Jun 19 07:32
schestowitz	just to show you what im going through, trying to covince people (alex oliva) that redix-- the	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	eee anti-posix-- exists.	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	from h documents: [the original ones]	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	“A more generalized assessment of how to beat the Open Source Software	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	process which begat Linux is contained in the 'Open Source Software'	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	document.”	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	“Systematically attacking UNIX in general helps attack Linux in particular.”	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	i found this quote way after i coined my "redix" hypothesis. its not based on this, but-- wow.	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	“OSS process weaknesses provide an avenue for Microsoft to garner advantage in key	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	feature areas such as architectural improvements (e.g. storage+), integration (e.g. schemas),	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	ease-of-use, and organizational support.”	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	“Commercial software development processes are hallmarked by organization around	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	economic goals.”	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	“OSS projects the size of Linux and Apache are only viable if a large enough community of	Jun 19 07:53
schestowitz	highly skilled developers can be amassed to attack a problem.”	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	replace "attack a problem" with "defend their project":	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	OSS projects the size of Linux and Apache are only viable if a large enough community	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	of highly skilled developers can be amassed to defend their project.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	“OSS development process are far better at solving individual component issues	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	than they are at solving integrative scenarios such as end-to-end ease of use.”	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	replace solving with protecting:	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	OSS development process are far better at solving individual component	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	issues than they are at protecting integrative scenarios such as end-to-end	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	ease of use.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	“OSS process vitality is directly tied to the Internet”	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	“The OSS process is unique in its participants' motivations and the resources that can be	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	brought to bare down on problems. OSS, therefore, has some interesting, non-replicable	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	assets which should be thoroughly understood.”	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	"since money is often not the (primary) motivation behind Open Source Software,	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	understanding the nature of the threat posed requires a deep understanding of the	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	process and motivation of Open Source development teams.”"	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	“In other words, to understand how to compete against OSS, we must target a process	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	rather than a company.”	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	@Alexandre Oliva (olivas text is indented and blue. mine is not. it would make more sense	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	the other way around, but this is how it copied from d and im not going to reverse every	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	indent.)	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	rms is NOT a narcissist. narcissism doesnt mean ego, it means (among other things) being	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	pathologically manipulative, dishonest, and fundamentally selfish. rms is first of all, honest--	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	sometimes he goes in circles a bit, but he isnt fundamentally selfish. so your comments about	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	narcissism, while welcome of course, have nothing to do with you or rms. ive read your stuff	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	for years-- youre more like rms than most people. youre not a narcissist either.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	RMS refused to accept the world as it was	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	he could simply be delusional. but there are other possibilities. the “world as it was” that he	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	refused to accept was the sudden takeover of monopolies. theres really nothing pathological	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	(or delusional) about rejecting that.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	that’s not just clinical narcissism, it’s way beyond pathological.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	i strongly disagree.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	yet it’s an amazing contribution to humankind.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	i agree.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	“you don’t have a choice!” quite interesting. I’ll get back to this below.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	its not just the lack of choice. its the subjugation of choice where it existed. the problems with	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	systemd go way beyond lack of real choice to the fact that theyre rather openly trying to force	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	themselves on users. of course they deny that. right after they basically come out and say it.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	trump does that too. trump by the way, is almost certainly narcissistic.	Jun 19 07:54
schestowitz	github was already divisive, or should have been, between serious free software	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	and proprietary-tolerant communities: it was proprietary, SaaSS, and required	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	proprietary Javascript long before Microsoft bought it. so I don’t get the relevance	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	of the acquisition	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	fair enough.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	I don’t get why anyone would have decided to jump ship just because Microsoft	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	took it over. presumably feeding a larger monster is worse than feeding a smaller	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	one?	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	absolutely it is.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	the difference is simple really. people didnt think of github the way you did. they	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	should have, yes. you told them so (fair enough.) however, they DO think of microsoft that	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	way. thats why they left-- because they finally agreed with you. because microsoft is a far	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	more obvious example of the problem-- obvious enough for them to realise its bad.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	when it comes to free software, though, it is never true. you always have a choice.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	i think thats a bit cynical. and the point youre trying to make is one i address about distrosgeneral. distros make us less free.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	they dont have to-- but they generally do.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	as long as you think of freedom solely as either/or (and its generally useful to, except when	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	you miss the point being made here, which is about more free vs less free) youre going to	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	miss the way that freedom can be ratcheted down.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	a more free, but free distro can be ratcheted down into a less free system.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	this is what the free software foundation ought to recognise, because it is happening all over	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	the place. and its hurting the ecosystem.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	its not that i think the 4 freedoms should be extended to cover this. but philosophically its a	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	problem and in both practical terms and in terms of freedom its a real threat to free software.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	check out this fictional passage from techrights:	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	Free software developers seem to care very little about this, because they have their	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	stripped free software versions of everything open source. So what if we make things	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	less modular, more brittle, more bloated, and more poorly designed? They only use	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	projects with a license allows them to clean up after us, so they’re content no matter	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	what we sabotage. We can overwhelm them and send them to clean up mess after	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	mess, with the remaining effect of steering key projects to work more the way we want,	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	and them accepting our changes.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	in	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/06/09/infiltrating-other-projects/	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	so you care about the license, and not the intent to sabotage, so long as its under the	Jun 19 07:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Chapter 8: A Foot in the Door — How to Train Sympathetic Developers and Infiltrate Other Projects \| Techrights		Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	right license.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	thats a mistake, in my opinion. first of all, free software can use a gpl-compatible license and	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	still be obfuscated.	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	but what if its not obfuscated? what if i just add malicious features that take years to	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	find?	Jun 19 07:55
schestowitz	in theory thats no problem-- in practice, its a SERIOUS problem. when debian works on	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	reproducible builds, theyre trying to close off one avenue to that problem. theyre going to	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	great lengths to do so.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	[note-- the avenue theyre trying to close off is in the compilation/linking. but i am clearly	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	talking about gradual sabotage to overall design, and to the source-- not binaries.]	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	theres a difference between “the license allows it to be fixed” and “its ok to sabotage	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	software that users rely on” that you are comically ignoring, because after all:	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	“if someone sabotages it, we can just fix it.”	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	yeah-- until eee tactics are applied to free software.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	“oh but free software is immune to” <- imaginary response he might have	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	NO-- free software is NOT immune to eee.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	a protracted wikipedia-like “edit war” (the likes of which weve seen for years) can overwhelm	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	(has overwhelmed already) the ability of free software developers to clean up after the	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	software.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	mozilla is a great example. they keep adding features that do harm to the user.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	so we use icecat instead.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	great... ok, icecat: (i cant remove the indented numbers. libreoffice is a crap sometimes)	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	1. cant (hasnt) removed every malicious feature from mozilla.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	2. couldnt if they wanted to (not enough people working on it)	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	3. even when the primary goal of icecat was simply to debrand mozilla and remove	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	promotion of non-free plugins, the team couldnt keep up with mozillas output.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	so what was the result?	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	1. mozilla could say that to be safe and up to date, you should use firefox, not icecat	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	2. mozilla was actually free software, except for the weird branding issue-- it had all 4	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	freedoms.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	3. icecat was perpetually out of date, enough to hurt any normal persons (non free	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	software hardcore advocate) confidence in using it.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	so free software couldnt even keep up with forking icecat. using icecat means you have	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	KNOWN vulnerabilities when browsing online.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	only mozilla wasnt doing eee yet.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	the point is that eee is about:	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	1. developing around the software you want to subjugate	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	2. adding features to tempt people (effectively) away from the version you dont control	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	3. killing the project-- but before this was a formal process, it was simply called “de-	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	commoditising protocols.”	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	adding the stuff that works for corporations, dropping the stuff that users rely on.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	you can use this churn even in free software, to waste the time of developers trying to chase	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	features and de-commoditising protocols. you can hurt users.	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	you just have to go after projects that dont need a lot of of constant updates (stable ones) and	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	are thus unprotected. [or, you have to "revolutionise" things like init, or switch frameworks in	Jun 19 07:56
schestowitz	libreoffice-- seriously, im missing workflow features that will never return-- shall i name them]	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	then when people scramble to fix them, you fud the original.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	this is happening all over the place. and we havent even touched the ORGANISATIONAL eee	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	tactics.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	you can say its all under free licenses. but the fact is that control is being ceded to	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	monopolies.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	the fact is that gnu will be stolen out from under your nose.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	if you dont recognise this threat, its going to cost you the ecosystem.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	instead, you keep falling for your own classification. its free, so its fine. if its not fine, it	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	doesnt matter-- its free.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	i never anticipated that the fsf would be so convinced that their 20th century philosophy is so	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	bulletproof that no NEW way to effectively fight it could be found even in the 21st century.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	but the way to fight it is here-- its being described, but more importantly, its being done.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	youre in a wikipedia-like edit war. its all under a free license and youre free to revert the	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	vandalism.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	but youre not even fighting it, because youre content that its licensed properly.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	between stallman being stifled #FREERICHARD and free software (and open source)	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	organisations being bribed, and the software itself being sabotaged, youre in deep trouble.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	but youve got a reason not to care about any of it-- the license.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	its going to take more than that. you should have learned from tivo-- free software (meaning	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	the gpl license, the philosophy) has vulnerabilities like software does-- if you dont	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	patch them, youre going to be exploited. its already happening. check the logs.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	they patched gpl3. i dont recommend patching the 4 freedoms-- i do recommend you think	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	about that fact that no one-size-fits-all approach gives you security. hardening is a multi-layer	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	approach.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	youre paying too much attention to your 4 freedoms firewall, when its a known fact that so	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	many security breaches come not from bypassing the firewall, but the browser or database	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	attacks.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	or OPERATOR ERROR. [organisational problems.]	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	you can nitpick the metaphor, but im not trying to prove a hypothetical argument by analogy.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	im trying to get you to notice the existing problem right under your nose. if you still dont know	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	its there, it cant be helped. most people arent even going to get as far as you did. theyre not	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	interested.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	but a growing number of people are. unrepresented by the “firewalls fine!” attitude of the fsf	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	and its parrots. (youre NOT a parrot. but theyre all over the place. people regurgitating the	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	website like its stone tablets, not thinking for themselves and questioning if there are flaws.	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	thats not science.)	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	“In other words, to understand how to compete against OSS, we must target a process	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	rather than a company.” [original h documents, not the new one]	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	there are vulnerabilities in the free software process not yet patched. id recommend looking	Jun 19 07:57
schestowitz	for them, ive already pointed right at them. what youre doing to refute them is basically	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	reading from the manual. ask yourself if that would work in a real security breach--	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	refuting an exploit by reading from the documentation– because that sums up what i hear	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	about free software every time i mention this. all the best.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	[just to reiterate]	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"guys, theres a vulnerability in the sql server."	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"no there isnt, the documentation says it has no vulnerabilities"	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"..."	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"what about this exploit?"	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"that doesnt matter, it can be patched!"	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"so what are we going to do?"	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	"nothing! its free software, so theres no problem!"	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>> one of our key goals is to abolish swpats everywhere, hence the focus on these topics/people/institutions.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> oh, dont worry, i knew that much already.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> i meant it less broadly, like whats so important about these two guys. but i get it-- theyre part of the swpat problem.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> chapter 7 strived to be entirely about swpats. the patent agreements are something ive spent years being livid about. ive never considered using suse because they were one of the first people who sold gnu/linux to microsoft. years ago.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> so i get thats important. no question whatsoever.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> attached is my conversation with alex oliva today. like ben mako hill hes on my very short list of people who could possibly do what stallman does.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> so i try to get him to understand my positions. but like rms, im beginning to see that he thinks he can sweep away all concerns with the magical license. i compare that to reducing security to just a firewall-- forget the browser, forget operator error. the firewall will fix everything.	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> this despite the fact that gpl2 had critical vulnerabilities which were exploited-- then patched. doesnt that prove the 4 freedoms are not bulletproof?	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> "the cost of freedom is eternal vigilance."	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> free software: "the cost of freedom is the right to share, modify, redistribute and run the software for any purpose. the source code is a requirement for this."	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> "eternal vigilance?"	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	> "nope, just use free software and youre totally fine."	Jun 19 07:58
schestowitz	My August Gus III,	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	What exactly was Google's first big misstep? I ask, because Alphabet, the holding company that owns Google, dropped "Don't Be Evil" 2nd of October, 2015. If it, that big misstep, happened later than the creation date there was no regret.	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	As Always,	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	TxtEdMacs	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	gus3	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	Jun 18, 2019	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	2:13 PM EDTIn either 2004 or 2005, Google censored searches for "tiananmen square protests", at the behest of Beijing, an action Larry Page(?) later said the company never should have done.	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	TxtEdMacs	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	Jun 18, 2019	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	2:45 PM EDTThis is a wild, unverified guess: I just do not see Page as the one likely to have regretted an immoral stance or action. Brin is the more likely person. Moreover, I remember an incident where Brin regretted something that Google had done. He, Brin, based his regret on his experiences / knowledge of the actions seen and known to have occurred in the former Soviet Union. So Brin would have preferred not to be seen as doing	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	similar acts.	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	I will gladly accept derision should I be proved wrong. However, observing Page in charge of Google and Alphabet I doubt I will have to ever apologize.	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	As always, your buddy,	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	TxtEdMacs	Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36608/	Jun 19 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com \| LXer: Google is being "hazy": Google: We're not killing ad blockers. Translation: We made them too powerful, we'll cram this genie back in its bottle		Jun 19 08:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AmbushPredator/status/1141228957431402496	Jun 19 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbushPredator: They don’t fuck about in Russia! Evicted the entire bunch! https://t.co/gic4tJVTAa		Jun 19 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #russia "On June 13, there was mass violence in the town of #Chemodanovka , outside #Penza . Allegations that membe… https://t.co/VX38IPNaZr		Jun 19 08:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15217634#f82735b073f7013725680cc47a07853c	Jun 19 08:11
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #techrights page: Former @dkpto chief Jesper Kongstad http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Jesper_Kongstad #dkpto #dk #denmark #epo		Jun 19 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Jesper Kongstad - Techrights		Jun 19 08:11
schestowitz	from the page: 09.04.18 A Retreat From Patent Quality Means a Retreat of Patent Applicants	Jun 19 08:11
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2018/09/04/epo-patents-in-the-news/	Jun 19 08:11
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| A Retreat From Patent Quality Means a Retreat of Patent Applicants \| Techrights		Jun 19 08:11
schestowitz	this isn't slowing down yet, but it will	Jun 19 08:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213933#6af0b76073a901373da02986f53bbfc6	Jun 19 08:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oops. Did I type "browsered"? Weird typo, don't think it's the first time I make it. But one could probably muscle this word's way into the dictionary :-) browser (v.): the act of throwing a browser onto a page :-)		Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	id rather use it for what mozilla does to its users.	Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	“curses! browsered again!” #mozillacloudcontrol	Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15190385#0e19b460713a0137ec347a163ef10931	Jun 19 08:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pepe The Frog Creator, Infowars Both Claim Victory After $15k #Copyright Settlement https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190613/10315842397/pepe-frog-creator-infowars-both-claim-victory-after-15k-copyright-settlement.shtml		Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com \| Pepe The Frog Creator, Infowars Both Claim Victory After $15k Copyright Settlement \| Techdirt		Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	Some folks who will never admit defeat take that tack to hilarious ends.	Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 08:12
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 4 days ago	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	“For the last year or so we’ve been playing this game of Whack-a-Mole using cease-and-desist letters and the Millennium Copyright Act,” Tompros explained.	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	meaning theyve spent a year using dmca to try to censor the internet-- which does not require a moral argument, only time and money	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	Yeah, that is a fool’s errand. But I was referring to the other side in the case.	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	His word is now famous. For the wrong thing/reasons.	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	His work is now famous. For the wrong thing/reasons.	Jun 19 08:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15187640#aafa90b070f2013725200cc47a07853c	Jun 19 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prosecutors drop criminal charges in #Flint #water scandal https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/13/us/flint-prosecutors-drop-charges/index.html crime is OK. If you're rich or well connected to the rich.		Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	"https://share.naturalnews.com/posts/1794017'	Jun 19 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> edition.cnn.com \| Prosecutors drop criminal charges in Flint Water scandal - CNN		Jun 19 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-share.naturalnews.com \| so you dont trust the president– and you dont trust the pentagon– a...		Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	just put vaccines in the water instead	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	https://share.naturalnews.com/posts/1794017	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15205427#124ab0d072ee0137ec2e7a163ef10931	Jun 19 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: R.T. Russell's Z80 BBC Basic is now open source http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124959 #programming #freesw		Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| R.T. Russell's Z80 BBC Basic is now open source \| Tux Machines		Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	Yea?	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	free software too (zlib license)	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	'	Jun 19 08:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15202056#b6fef890728b0137ec347a163ef10931	Jun 19 08:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: She is making a career by helping people like #Netanyahu https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/ayaan-hirsi-ali-warns-of-islamic-anti-semitism		Jun 19 08:15
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:15
schestowitz	I imagine there is good money in that.	Jun 19 08:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cjnews.com \| Ayaan Hirsi Ali warns of Islamic anti-Semitism		Jun 19 08:15
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 08:15
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	anti-semitism really seems like a misnomer. what theyre doing in palestine is anti-semitic. of course the term is typically used to mean “against jews,” so they would never use it to describe palestinian apartheid (hafrada, potato, potado.)	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	i keep expecting for someone to correct me on a statement like this. if someone has facts to share about this that i dont, i welcome them.	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	Palestine is a Semitic arena - in a number of senses.	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15193476#7436dd1071980137255c0cc47a07853c	Jun 19 08:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steve Litt on #nginx http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nginx/		Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.troubleshooters.com \| T.C Nginx Essentials		Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	i hope he reads techrights-- there are a number of new things there about microsoft and increasing control of #freesw that make me think of him.	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	i wish he used a free license on his website.	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	'	Jun 19 08:16
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15214095#2eb4b14073ab0137251c0cc47a07853c	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	"A lot of the older stuff works very well. And is stable!"	Jun 19 08:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Techies, don't be too proud to learn new things https://www.techrepublic.com/article/techies-dont-be-too-proud-to-learn-new-things/ I wrote a piece that was a very, very basic introductory piece about Docker." Abandon #docker - it's compromised.		Jun 19 08:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techrepublic.com \| Techies, don't be too proud to learn new things - TechRepublic		Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	techies arent “too proud to learn new things.” theyre too experienced to assume newer is always better.	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	this sort of technological conservatism results in greater stability and reliability of platforms, and it is exaggerated to ad hom the responsible (for the benefit of hocking the new thing.) #poettering	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	why would someone who knows better promote something broken, inferior and cloying, just because it dishonestly conflates better with new? if you want to know the real “problem” with techies, its that some of them are smarter than that.	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	tomgrz - a day ago	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	LaTex, for instance! ;-)	Jun 19 08:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15195195#38e7500071c20137fddc0218b72fdf43	Jun 19 08:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Then they show their hand: "It's also no secret that a change to the employment classification of ride-share drivers would pose a risk to our businesses." https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-and-lyft-opposing-driver-unionization-california-2019-6		Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.businessinsider.com \| Uber and Lyft opposing driver unionization California - Business Insider		Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	Those drivers must get unionezed.	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	Uber is ridiculous in its employee treatment.	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	Binario011	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	Binario011 - 4 days ago	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	Class struggle rears it’s head again	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	dt@pluspora.com	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	dt@pluspora.com - 4 days ago	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	why is it a multi billion dollar industry cannot afford to pay its workers? Ridiculous!	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	Oh, so society needs to change our laws for them? (I don’t think so!)	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:18
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15200252#da3d9ee0726a01373d962986f53bbfc6	Jun 19 08:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This is not "open source"; it is a good thing, but it's not open-sourcing. They overuse the term for #openwashing https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/06/the-new-york-times-has-a-course-to-teach-its-reporters-data-skills-and-now-theyve-open-sourced-it/		Jun 19 08:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.niemanlab.org \| The New York Times has a course to teach its reporters data skills, and now they’ve open-sourced it » Nieman Journalism Lab		Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	the term has spent 20 years getting more watered down. this will be the year that everything is open source, even when its “closed source”	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source cars	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source tabasco sauce	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source google	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source microsoft	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source climate change	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source white house	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source mass surveillance	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source capitalism	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source europe	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source antibiotic-resistant tb	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source kick in the shins	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source dancing in the club	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva - 3 days ago	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	…	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	open source linux	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	hmm, nope, never gonna happen :-/ :-)	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	nope, never gonna happen	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	i hear there is a libre version, but i worry about how much more difficult it will be to maintain as gkh takes over.	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	so long as the problems are as simple as the ones already addressed, im sure it will be no problem.	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	'	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz		Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	nope, never gonna happen i hear there is a libre version, but i worry about how much more difficult it will be to maintain as gkh takes over. so long as the problems are as simple as the ones already addressed, im sure it will be no problem.	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	'	Jun 19 08:19
schestowitz	>> That's strange.	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	>>	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	>> I'm still connection to it over ssh.	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	>>	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	>> I did not receive a downtime alert.	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	>>	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	>> Is it possible that heavy load caused this issue?	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	> Could be. My script only checks HTTP availability, and that can be	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	> quite subjective in regards to load. If the site is unavailable via	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	> HTTP it waits 30 seconds and tries again. Only if it is still	Jun 19 08:33
schestowitz	> unavailable does it set off the alarm.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> The cat meowed a lot after the alarm to Satu, who had herself noticed	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> the alarm, but neither said anything to me. :\	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	Maybe I submitted some stories at the time, which can cause little spikes, esp. due to social control media links.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>> I assume you did not reboot.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> I did not reboot. I checked and everything was running still and I was	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> able to access it via SSH and HTTP.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> I've added a script to rebuild the databases, "repair_dbs.sh". Should I	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> leave the db password out or add it in like in "get_dbs.sh" there?	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	The passwords were included only because of the cron job.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>> It's possible that the DB needed repairing anyway; so maybe that's a net	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>> gain.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>>	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>> I'm away for the whole day next Wednesday (work), so won't be near a	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	>> computer all day.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> Ok. This weekend is a big holiday here but it should not affect much	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	> unless we go visit someone for the weekend.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	# uptime	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	00:32:22 up 39 days, 3:46, 2 users, load average: 0.35, 0.31, 0.32	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	I think the longest since the migration.	Jun 19 08:34
schestowitz	I need some help digging around LF; too hard to know what's going on there. Press releases aren't a good source.	Jun 19 08:34
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/1141266729143865344	Jun 19 10:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz none of the above		Jun 19 10:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FailDef/status/1141268521667743745	Jun 19 10:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FailDef: goodbye i386 https://t.co/SnfVYONkKb		Jun 19 10:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Ubuntu says i386 to be 86'd with Eoan 19.10 release: Ageing 32-bit x86 support will be ex-86… https://t.co/R7vusWnmAN		Jun 19 10:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mjgranger1/status/1141294611429830656	Jun 19 16:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjgranger1: @schestowitz Of course they are "unproven," there hasn't been a TRIAL yet. A grand jury sits to decide if the evide… https://t.co/xzQKjcR4oe		Jun 19 16:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjgranger1: @schestowitz Of course they are "unproven," there hasn't been a TRIAL yet. A grand jury sits to decide if the evide… https://t.co/xzQKjcR4oe		Jun 19 16:36
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 16:36
schestowitz	Of course they are "unproven," there hasn't been a TRIAL yet. A grand jury sits to decide if the evidence against a person warrants a trial. If the 23 citizens decide "YES" on the basis that it is more likely than not (51% rule) that the person did the crime they are indicted.	Jun 19 16:36
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schestowitz		Jun 19 16:36
schestowitz	"	Jun 19 16:36
schestowitz	You missed the latest (about the judge from Sweden)	Jun 19 16:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/karstenharder/status/1141299564395343872	Jun 19 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@karstenharder: @schestowitz There are a good many old Thinkpads and the like who will no longer have an appropriate OS. I sure hop… https://t.co/VeZegQxod9		Jun 19 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@karstenharder: @schestowitz There are a good many old Thinkpads and the like who will no longer have an appropriate OS. I sure hop… https://t.co/VeZegQxod9		Jun 19 16:37
schestowitz	"There are a good many old Thinkpads and the like who will no longer have an appropriate OS. I sure hope Debian keeps its i386 distro in place."	Jun 19 16:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VlYgor/status/1141360032031870977	Jun 19 16:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VlYgor: @schestowitz proxy that is not forced feeding😁		Jun 19 16:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1141371216625729536	Jun 19 18:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Ick		Jun 19 18:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1141371249186111489	Jun 19 18:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz #shithub		Jun 19 18:41
schestowitz	control of the media helped manufacture consent for this EEE move	Jun 19 18:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1141373994307739648	Jun 19 18:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Vulnerability as a service		Jun 19 18:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1141374537705185281	Jun 19 18:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "in India today, it is actually cheaper to build a new solar park than to go on operating a coal plant." #renewables https://t.co/MaYLXuHDls		Jun 19 18:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #India Could Pull Off a Green #Energy Miracle https://t.co/HPIaoAevGW		Jun 19 18:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EmperorBlargus/status/1141396727829868544	Jun 19 18:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EmperorBlargus: @schestowitz D.C. Statehood needs to be at the top once Dems take over.		Jun 19 18:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mjgranger1/status/1141399606821031938	Jun 19 18:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjgranger1: @schestowitz I’m not sure I care that much about what a judge from Sweden has to say. The British have him, we want… https://t.co/gZQ1aw9ugI		Jun 19 18:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjgranger1: @schestowitz I’m not sure I care that much about what a judge from Sweden has to say. The British have him, we want… https://t.co/gZQ1aw9ugI		Jun 19 18:47
schestowitz	"I’m not sure I care that much about what a judge from Sweden has to say. The British have him, we want him, and he should have his day in court."	Jun 19 18:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/patentbuddy/status/1141321943880228864	Jun 19 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@patentbuddy: US Pat 7995091, Mixed media telecommunication call manager; Survived Alice Attack; Analytics @ https://t.co/swYSeJmxd2		Jun 19 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.patentbuddy.com \| Analytics for US Patent No. 7995091, Mixed media telecommunication call manager		Jun 19 19:34
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/decent_doge/status/1141422803813576705	Jun 20 00:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@decent_doge: @schestowitz what do people use this for other than docker containers?		Jun 20 00:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/yunxia81901043/status/1141460581502730240	Jun 20 00:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yunxia81901043: UK is a joke！ https://t.co/i4obb9K3gN		Jun 20 00:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks "I have detailed Judge Arbuthnot, wife of a former Tory Defence Minister who co-owns a company with a fo… https://t.co/rsysYkuTku		Jun 20 00:55
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acer-box	https://social.tchncs.de/users/vfrmedia/statuses/102298913357125253	Jun 20 01:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.tchncs.de \| Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site apparently peas are goo…" - Mastodon		Jun 20 01:10
acer-box	"apparently peas are good for them (and cheap to buy in bulk), I'm curious though as to why birbs in a large city are going hungry like that. Is this because the Council discourages stale bread being fed to them, or are people generally poorer now and don't even have spare/unwanted food to feed to them?"	Jun 20 01:10
acer-box	they eat grass	Jun 20 01:10
acer-box	https://mastodon.bida.im/users/danielinux/statuses/102297950440597459	Jun 20 01:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://mastodon.bida.im/users/danielinux/statuses/102297950440597459 )		Jun 20 01:13
acer-box	"status/1139011843844788224 in case you missed that (I doubt you did)"	Jun 20 01:13
acer-box	I missed that, thanks	Jun 20 01:13
acer-box	https://soc.ialis.me/users/Brienna/statuses/102294905601501561	Jun 20 01:14
acer-box	"laughably ironic"	Jun 20 01:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soc.ialis.me \| Brienna: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site laughably ironic" - soc.ialis.me mastodon		Jun 20 01:14
schestowitz	> https://hackernoon.com/digital-oxy-122de9091786?gi=2c57f48079e9	Jun 20 01:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 01:28
schestowitz	> Sent from my iPhone	Jun 20 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hackernoon.com \| Digital Oxy – Hacker Noon		Jun 20 01:28
schestowitz	cheers.	Jun 20 01:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EmperorBlargus/status/1141498409750355970	Jun 20 04:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EmperorBlargus: @schestowitz So it wasn't project fear run by the illuminati, UN, EU, and Agenda 21 after all... </sarcasm>. SAD!		Jun 20 04:10
schestowitz	> i just got a return to sender from this address when i sent my previous	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> email.	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> i dont know why it flagged "junkmail" thats odd. lets find out if this	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> one sends.	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	very odd.	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	I would very much worry if spam filtering is too aggressive.	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> maybe it was the subject line. lets try resending the content:	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> so im dealing with this obnoxious fsf fanboy who seems to imply he	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> attended libreplanet. with their coc and everything. and i answered a	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> bunch of his questions, before we got onto this topic, and he called me	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> an asshole. i didnt even say anything outwardly assholish, or perhaps i	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> did a bit, but it was an overreaction on his part. now hes in an fsf	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> thread on diaspora, still calling me names because he doesnt like what	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> im saying. only this time he name-called in spanish like a coward, and	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> then replied to something else i said in english without insults. so i	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> insulted him (and his mother) in spanish as a result. i mean, this is a	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> joke! im also talking with "daniel" (i dont know who he is, but youve	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> talked with him at some point) and hes cool enough i guess. we are	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> talking about ways in which the fsf falls short. and i said oh-- this	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> #coc business is getting out of hand, its hypocritical, of course its a	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> double standard-- and i didnt point him to the exchange from today but i	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> did point him to that mastodon hypocrite ginny mcqueen that you linked	Jun 20 04:39
schestowitz	> to. that post is still up on kitty.town. meanwhile the federation (some	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> diaspora thing) demands every listed pod have a code of conduct that	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> among other things-- bans climate denialism. so, even though im sure you	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> hate climate denialism, i dont get theyre going to try to use the code	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> of conduct to dictate what is discussed (i mean we are taking youtube to	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> task over the same thing) rather than how it is discussed. BUT THATS	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> JUST IT. laws like the patriot act never stop with the vital security--	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> they end up being used for the drug war, then social credit ratings.	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> codes of conduct never stop (or even start) with just "dont be an	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> asshole." they start with double standards, they promote censorship,	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> they end up being used to silence whatever it is people dont like--	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> whether its just or reasonable or pure hypocrisy or not. and whats	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> more-- people arent stupid enough not to know that. so when they see	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> this stuff coming into a project, they think "oh, no-- not this old	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	> bullshit again." this old bullshit, indeed.	Jun 20 04:40
schestowitz	>> New techrights page:	Jun 20 05:05
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 05:05
schestowitz	>> Librethreat Database	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	>> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Librethreat_Database	Jun 20 05:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Librethreat Database - Techrights		Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> How scalable is it to have so many pages? The more there are the more	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> have to be updated to stay relevant. Does wordpress have a plugin which	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> can make subject categories based on the keywords "tagged" when creating	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> the articles?	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> (As an aside, regarding the list, the infinitely scrolling web pages are	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> just an unmitigated disaster on so many levels including usability. But	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> they are just part of a larger disaster. I have four books on web	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> usability within reach here on the closest shelf and it is damn /rare/	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> to find a recently "designed" page which follows any of the	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> well-researched guidelines. The new web is about addiction and captive	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	> mind share, not about usability or getting work done.)	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	nowadays they count "engagement" or time spent etc. it's about keeping people around for ads. It's hoarding. FB does this a lot. All this "NOTIFICATIONS" nonsense (which I hate, wastes time) is another dimension of it.	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	For the first time in years I struggle to keep up with replies I receive. I'm not even sure I'll ever catch up with these (~1000 unread replies in my inbox).	Jun 20 05:06
schestowitz	>> So I don't think review would be necessary. To catch structural issues I	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	>> search the 'wall of text' for common patterns of errors and validate the	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	>> page after publishing. I can free up about 2 hours a day by offloading	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	>> my non-tech news read/write.	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	> Ok. Which sites should I add to my coverage then? The daily links have	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	> a lot that I never check but also material that I'd never see elsewhere.	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	I'm attacking my template, which I copy-paste afresh onto a new file when one batch is complete and published. Once accommodated, at the end:	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	search and replace	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	"<li><h5><a href="" rel="nofollow"></a></h5>	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	<blockquote></blockquote></li>"	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	with	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	""	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	and search and replace	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="" rel="nofollow"></a></h5></li>	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	with	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	""	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	I've done this for over a decade and improved at it over time.	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	to spot mistakes I also search for (after the above):	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	"></a"	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	and	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	"></b"	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	and	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	"""" (that's two quotes in a row)	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	You can imagine what kind of error that catching	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	add a couple of items to the headline/title, choose "News Roundup", publish	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	Then I links to the resultant page from social control media (MINDS, D*, Mastodon etc.)	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	I can send you rss feeds of sites I trust (for non-tech) news if you are willing to give it a try.	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	>> At this moment I write about Microsoft	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	>> (will be up soon).	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	> Good. They're worse than ever yet getting less negative coverage than	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	> ever before elsewhere.	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	There's LOADS I could write about them (a decade ago I did 5-10 times per day) and maybe it's time to get back to that. More important than daily links, at this point....	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	(ps - we've been getting a growing number of volunteers around the site, they think it's the last point of defence left)	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	attacking-> attaching	Jun 20 05:44
schestowitz	>> You can imagine what kind of error that catching	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	> HTML Tidy might help?	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	Not for this, no...	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	These are common mistakes. Forgetting to add a quote, forgetting to add headline, pasting the URL outside the quotes...	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	When you deal with hundreds of links per day, this does happen...	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz		Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>> add a couple of items to the headline/title, choose "News Roundup", publish	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>> Then I links to the resultant page from social control media (MINDS, D*,	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>> Mastodon etc.)	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>> I can send you rss feeds of sites I trust (for non-tech) news if you are	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>> willing to give it a try.	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	> I can try, but how would the work flow be? Would you continue with some	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	> of the feeds, or should I try to collect most? Either way, we'll need a	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	> test period to see if I am up to the task.	Jun 20 06:22
schestowitz	Most of what you send to me isn't FOSS, so I can focus on FOSS, you do the rest. I know some people who follow the site for over a decade just for the links/news.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>>>> At this moment I write about Microsoft (will be up soon).	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>>> Good. They're worse than ever yet getting less negative coverage than	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>>> ever before elsewhere.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>> There's LOADS I could write about them (a decade ago I did 5-10 times	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>> per day) and maybe it's time to get back to that. More important than	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>> daily links, at this point....	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> Yes, I think the daily links are of low priority compared to your	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> writing, although links are still fairly useful. They've been mentioned	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> a few times over at Soylentnews, for example, by others not by me.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	I mostly create daily links while I research stuff. It's like a "side perk". But the non-tech stuff rarely yields anything related to or beneficial to my articles. Hence I can pass this baton. Maybe the time is now.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	Moments ago I releases http://techrights.org/2019/06/20/microsoft-bullying/	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	I can write loads more like these, I'm not low on material and would rather do articles than "tweet". Articles remain usable for years; tweets have a shelf life of a pierced apple.	Jun 20 06:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Microsoft Attempting to Destroy the Careers of Its Critics, Including Free Software Proponents \| Techrights		Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> I'm wondering if the 'nofollow' attribute should be removed from the	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> anchor elements? I'm thinking that removing it would help with the	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> search engine ranking of the topics involved if not just the specific	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> articles. However, I am really far out of the loop there. W3C is	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> more or less dead and decisions are made by consensus by Google and	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> Facebook insiders the last half decade or so, from what I gather. Bit	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> players like Wikimedia and Twitter have a small say, but Google and FB	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> still call the shots.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	nofollow is there for legacy reasons. I did this over a decade ago. so it remains in the template.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	Recently, a reader urged me to replace the "boycott novell" in the light red backtground, so we did. I totally forgot about that.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	Not sure anyone noticed the change (weeks ago).	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>> (ps - we've been getting a growing number of volunteers around the site,	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>> they think it's the last point of defence left)	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> I think TR probably is the last rally point. All the other	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> organizations I can think of have been weakened or corrupted: OSI, LF,	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> EFF, even FSF, FFII, FSFe, and so on. So many good sites have vanished	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	> in general, in more languages than just English.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	I heard more complaints about the FSF's passivity. We can fill this gap.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	ps - when filling up daily links I jump to the 'right'/suitable section using search as it's fastest to do.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	use case/example scenario. you find a news item about the Internet, search Links file (or copy of it) for "net neu", add the text, url, title under there. At the end you can automate removing the cruft (empty entries), as outlines in previous email.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	Will Hill used to briefly do this over a decade ago, but he lacked time to carry on.	Jun 20 06:23
schestowitz	>>> EXCELLENT< breakdown, I like it.	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	> im very glad.	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	> incidentally i noticed its not taking the newlines:	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	> Threat type: Semi-malicious UI design Affects: Mostly websites, Server-side software Summary: Deliberately addicitive design not only psychologically manipulates user to keep scrolling, also makes it difficult to navigate pages or reach bottom of page (when there is one.) Recognised by: Advocates of users, good design, ethics Also recognised by FSF: Unknown Mitigation: To boycott / avoid webpages that use infinite scrolling, create	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	plugins that turn high-profile pages that use it into pages / demand old-fashioned paging as option from webmins Examples: Twitter, wordpress.com (includes some limited mitigation/option), Diaspora, many others	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	> you think this would fix it?	Jun 20 06:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Threat type: Semi-malicious UI design	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Affects: Mostly websites, Server-side software	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Summary: Deliberately addicitive design not only psychologically manipulates user to keep scrolling, also makes it difficult to navigate pages or reach bottom of page (when there is one.)	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Recognised by: Advocates of users, good design, ethics	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Also recognised by FSF: Unknown	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Mitigation: To boycott / avoid webpages that use infinite scrolling, create plugins that turn high-profile pages that use it into pages / demand old-fashioned paging as option from webmins	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	> * Examples: Twitter, wordpress.com (includes some limited mitigation/option), Diaspora, many others	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	Big oops. I read the whole thing as an email (I agree with this list) and did not pay attention to what would happen after pasting it in (past review). I will link to it later, it's now corrected (the layout). For now it's our IRC community that reads it and gave some feedback, e.g.	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	[05:16] <-- Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has left this server (Quit: lolmoi).	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	[05:30] <superkuh> "Deliberately addicitive design" :\	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	[05:30] <superkuh> Hardly.	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	[05:31] <superkuh> Minor quibble though.	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	[05:58] <schestowitz> not me view	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	[05:58] <schestowitz> but I saw some people expressing it	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	I'm talking to our other sysadmin at the moment about involving more people in composing articles. Would you be interested. We surged in terms of traffic recently. Like 4 millions hits per week. People do pay attention.	Jun 20 06:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15156870#00bf6d506e770137d51a0218b72fdf43	Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ESR: "The Patreon is up to $1709 now. At $2000 it would cover monthly mortgage and bills; that’s starting to look attainable, which is a damn good thing given that I still have no clearer idea what the medical stuff will end up costing than “a lot”." http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8367		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	"Oh boy, what a sad situarion: the Guy Who created open source begging in Patreon..."	Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> esr.ibiblio.org \| While I was making other plans, pars tres \| Armed and Dangerous		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15194651#ee83ea3071ac0137254c0cc47a07853c	Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ESR's health issues now make him look (to me at least) like somewhat of a sellout. http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8379		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz		Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> esr.ibiblio.org \| In a blatant attempt to attract more Institutional supporters… \| Armed and Dangerous		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	the entire history of #opensource ought to do that. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/02/msg01641.html	Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.debian.org \| It's Time to Talk About Free Software Again		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15095967#3345d22069000137d7490218b7b8d087	Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Eric S Raymond having health problems http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8349 "I had to – literally – crawl from my wife’s car to my house. Because I couldn’t walk."		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz		Jun 20 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> esr.ibiblio.org \| While I was making other plans \| Armed and Dangerous		Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	I feel bad for the person, but, at the same time, he created the Open Source monster we have to deal today...	Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	Worse are those who promote non-free software	Jun 20 08:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15091361#d60f99f0703201373d802986f53bbfc6	Jun 20 08:05
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Inconvenient (tech) truths: - Digital currencies have become a drug dealers' (the "illegal" ones) haven - Over time people have less and less control over computing, which means we must reject more and more technology in our lives - #surveillancecapitalism is about #imperialism (not profits). Geopolitical leverage, subsidised.		Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 7 days ago	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	There are worse pods than that	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	there shouldnt be.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	Vinzenz Hersche	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	Vinzenz Hersche - 6 days ago	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	I could say, if i’m not hacked, and if the ip of naturalnews not tried to “hack” me (there, my fail2ban-config is very strict - one wrong try on my “hidden” ssh-port and the ip is banned for some weeks, but this is unspecific against all attackers), then there’s absolutly no “blockade” or so.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	maybe other pods got same issues with mine? i actually got, as admin, a list of alive and death pods, which i can’t clean (by idea of devs at least), but if i visit the death ones, they’re mostly-always gone for real.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	prep	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	prep - 6 days ago	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	Vinzenz Hersche - less than a minute ago	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	I could say, if i’m not hacked, and if the ip of naturalnews not tried to “hack” me (there, my fail2ban-config is very strict - one wrong try on my “hidden” ssh-port and the ip is banned for some weeks, but this is unspecific against all attackers), then there’s absolutly no “blockade” or so.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	What p o s s i b l y makes you dream, that naturalnews or any other bloody pod cares enough about you or your dying thepirate.party pod to “hack” you?	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	You’re a bag of wind that I have not seen post one single sensible thing #anywhere.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	Just go AWAY already.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	What a f-ing loser.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 6 days ago	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	@Vinzenz Hersche i always find a bug the easiest thing to believe. and i tend to find it the hardest thing to convince anybody else of. some things are just counter-intuitive to developers. at least the ones ive dealt with.	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	Vinzenz Hersche	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	Vinzenz Hersche - 6 days ago	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	lol, that guy is too much, know what, @freemedia@thepirate.party? maybe i even just upgrade the pod again for some ram to bug that poor kid XD FREE ACCESS AGAINST NAZIS XD	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	note that i only talked about my defense, not that they really did this… ;)	Jun 20 08:06
schestowitz	@freemedia@thepirate.party i would be able to quote your comment and agree then, but it would be kind of cheap :p at least in the internet, personal convince is definently critical… it’s better to know real friends in the real world too!	Jun 20 08:06
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213752#509507c073a30137ec1a7a163ef10931	Jun 20 08:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Interview With Oakley Shelton-Thomas On The ‘ #Fracking Endgame’ In The United States https://shadowproof.com/2019/06/17/interview-food-water-watch-fracking-endgame-climate/		Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> shadowproof.com \| Interview With Oakley Shelton-Thomas On 'Fracking Endgame'		Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	We know the end. We know the game. And we know who loses in the end - all of us.	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	tomgrz - 2 days ago	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	“Every stage of plastic production is dirty…"	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	tomgrz - 2 days ago	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	Methane is far more insulating of heat than CO2. We will be cooked in our own juices.	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	My generation or newer (younger) will bear the brunt of it all	Jun 20 08:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15187509#800ee7b070f1013725620cc47a07853c	Jun 20 08:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Julian #assange has been very thin for a long time; in prison he lost another 10KG (22lb) and was moved to a health unit. There are many ways to kill a person; he's not on hunger strike.		Jun 20 08:24
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:24
schestowitz	i wonder if hes suffering from any side effects of forced vaccinations.	Jun 20 08:24
schestowitz	https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0079194	Jun 20 08:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-journals.plos.org \| Adjuvants and Immunization Strategies to Induce Influenza Virus Hemagglutinin Stalk Antibodies		Jun 20 08:24
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:24
schestowitz	What makes you think they injected him with anything since the arrest? He already lost weight while in the embassy.	Jun 20 08:24
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15199567#daffc31072480137fe370218b72fdf43	Jun 20 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Leave Big Open Source to #BigBusiness They already hijacked the major #opensource front groups anyway They control the narrative They own the press They bought #github ...		Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Yeah, exactly. I wonder when RMS Will wake up.	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	denshi@diaspora.town	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	denshi@diaspora.town - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	@Alessandro Ebersol What do you mean he will “wake up“? RMS is entirely aware of what is happening and is doing what I think he can to intervene. He’s an outspoken opponent of “open source” and SaaSS.	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	(Also GitHub never was free or “open source” to begin with.)	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Not Just that, corporations are eating his lunch(GNU Linux) and I don’t see FSF doing nothing.	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Will Hill	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Will Hill - 3 days ago	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	GNU maintains and keeps GNU free. They warned everyone about Tivoization and made the GPL license to avoid what’s happening to Linux. The community has essentially forked Linux with the Linux Libre kernel. What else can be done?	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	Rally supporters to oppose what Microsoft has done over the past few years	Jun 20 08:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15205390#8b729de0730f013764140218b72fdf43	Jun 20 08:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just Six Percent of Finns Say They Illegally Stream Movies or TV Shows https://torrentfreak.com/just-six-percent-of-finns-say-they-illegally-stream-movies-or-tv-shows-190615/		Jun 20 08:26
schestowitz	"Yeah, right"	Jun 20 08:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> torrentfreak.com \| Just Six Percent of Finns Say They Illegally Stream Movies or TV Shows - TorrentFreak		Jun 20 08:26
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:26
schestowitz		Jun 20 08:26
schestowitz	finns dont masturbate either.	Jun 20 08:26
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:26
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15195187#d92a69f071d10137ec327a163ef10931	Jun 20 08:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My personal journey from #MIT to #GPL http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124911 #gnu #freesw #copyleft		Jun 20 08:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| My personal journey from MIT to GPL \| Tux Machines		Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	As I got started writing open source software, I generally preferred the MIT license. I actually made fun of the “copyleft” GPL licenses, on the grounds that they are less free. I still hold this opinion today: the GPL license is less free than the MIT license - but today, I believe this in a good way.	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	The reality, however, is that we live in a capitalist world. Our socialist free software utopia is ripe for exploitation by capitalists, and they’ll be rewarded for doing so. Capitalism is about enriching yourself - not enriching your users and certainly not enriching society. - Your parents probably taught you about the Golden Rule when you were young: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The GPL is the legal embodiment	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	of this Golden Rule: in exchange for benefiting from my hard work, you just have to extend me the same courtesy.	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	free software isnt really socialist, unless you call all instances of sharing “socialism.”	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	its a commons. the commons is less politically slanted than socialism (though not all socialists think so.)	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	and by “less slanted” i mean it is simply broader politically.	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	one of the reasons i try to lean away from painting free software as “socialist” or “libertarian” (apart from trying to be technically accurate) is that it can and should appeal to more than one political group. free software does not discriminate against the political spectrum. it is one of those rare things that works across the board. i prefer to promote it as such.	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	@tomgrz, “less free” is not accurate IMHO. that’s probably mistaking power (to do unto others) with freedom (to control your own life). the permissions that the GPL does not grant, and that are required by copyright, are those that would grant power over others, not freedom. furthermore, it’s not the GPL that takes that power away, it’s copyright law; the GPL just carefully refrains from standing in copyright’s restrictive	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	ways when it comes to power over others, while disabling copyright’s power where it restricts freedom	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Alexandre Oliva - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	oh, doh, you were quoting from the article, sorry	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	free software isnt really socialist Correct. More “socially aware” though.	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Digit	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Digit - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	as i read the article, upon encountering the words	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	the GPL license is less free than the MIT license	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	albeit followed up with “in a good way”, my thought on, copyleft/permissive, in general, is that copyleft (like gpl) is “free and free alike”, whereas permissive “free and free to be non-free” (or “free and free to un-free”).	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	reading on…	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Digit	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Digit - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	free software isnt really socialist Correct. More “socially aware” though.	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	XD cagey. gotta be careful with the word “socialist” around americans still in the mcarthian hangover. lol. where “socialism” is all soviet style totalitarianism (or even nazi (“national socialist”)! lol), no concept of the libertarian forms of socialism (like anarcho-socialism)	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	;D	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Digit	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	Digit - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	a much more complex tome to understand	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	GPL version 1 is still human readable	Jun 20 08:28
schestowitz	(contrast to GPL2 & 3 which are much more lawyer readable).	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	GPL 1 is what fully elucidated me of the importance of free software. :) i emphatically encourage all to read it. :)	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	Digit	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	Digit - 4 days ago	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	good article tho.	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15215729#6d4b34e073d40137254e0cc47a07853c	Jun 20 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Shifty (I don't mean shifty) tech tabloid #zdnet -- part of the shifty #cbs franchise -- is lying every day. For technology news ignore it, add it to the mental binlist. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet		Jun 20 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| ZDNet - Techrights		Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	"corporate fucking shills (remix) https://invidio.us/watch?v=zBRpW5sEvJk"	Jun 20 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us \| Bill Hicks - Corporate Shills - Invidious		Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	"Exim Worm”? How about “Exim Worm”?	Jun 20 08:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15214008#c6b6e43073b00137ec2e7a163ef10931	Jun 20 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When #Exim has a bug it's the fault of "Linux" When #Microsoft Windows has back doors for the NSA it's the fault of "hackers" Welcome to #corporatemedia propaganda https://duo.com/decipher/linux-worm-hits-unpatched-exim-servers		Jun 20 08:30
schestowitz	""Exim Worm”? How about “Exim Worm”?"	Jun 20 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> duo.com \| Linux Worm Hits Unpatched Exim Servers \| Decipher		Jun 20 08:30
schestowitz	yup	Jun 20 08:30
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>> You can imagine what kind of error that catching	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>> HTML Tidy might help?	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>> Not for this, no...	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>> These are common mistakes. Forgetting to add a quote, forgetting to add	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>> headline, pasting the URL outside the quotes...	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>> When you deal with hundreds of links per day, this does happen...	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>> add a couple of items to the headline/title, choose "News Roundup", publish	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>> Then I links to the resultant page from social control media (MINDS, D*,	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>> Mastodon etc.)	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>>	Jun 20 08:39
schestowitz	>>>> I can send you rss feeds of sites I trust (for non-tech) news if you are	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>> willing to give it a try.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> I can try, but how would the work flow be? Would you continue with some	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> of the feeds, or should I try to collect most? Either way, we'll need a	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> test period to see if I am up to the task.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> Most of what you send to me isn't FOSS, so I can focus on FOSS, you do	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> the rest. I know some people who follow the site for over a decade just	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> for the links/news.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>>>> At this moment I write about Microsoft (will be up soon).	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>>> Good. They're worse than ever yet getting less negative coverage than	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>>> ever before elsewhere.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>> There's LOADS I could write about them (a decade ago I did 5-10 times	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>> per day) and maybe it's time to get back to that. More important than	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>> daily links, at this point....	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> Yes, I think the daily links are of low priority compared to your	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> writing, although links are still fairly useful. They've been mentioned	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> a few times over at Soylentnews, for example, by others not by me.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> I mostly create daily links while I research stuff. It's like a "side	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> perk". But the non-tech stuff rarely yields anything related to or	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> beneficial to my articles. Hence I can pass this baton. Maybe the time	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> is now.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> Moments ago I releases http://techrights.org/2019/06/20/microsoft-bullying/	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Microsoft Attempting to Destroy the Careers of Its Critics, Including Free Software Proponents \| Techrights		Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> I can write loads more like these, I'm not low on material and would	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> rather do articles than "tweet". Articles remain usable for years;	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>> tweets have a shelf life of a pierced apple.	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> I'm wondering if the 'nofollow' attribute should be removed from the	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> anchor elements? I'm thinking that removing it would help with the	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> search engine ranking of the topics involved if not just the specific	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> articles. However, I am really far out of the loop there. W3C is	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> more or less dead and decisions are made by consensus by Google and	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> Facebook insiders the last half decade or so, from what I gather. Bit	Jun 20 08:40
schestowitz	>>> players like Wikimedia and Twitter have a small say, but Google and FB	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>> still call the shots.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> nofollow is there for legacy reasons. I did this over a decade ago. so	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> it remains in the template.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> Should it be removed now?	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	I've just removed it from my template	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	" rel="nofollow"" (with the space)	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	replaced with null	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	643 substitutions	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	attached: the revised file.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> Recently, a reader urged me to replace the "boycott novell" in the light	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> red backtground, so we did. I totally forgot about that.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> Not sure anyone noticed the change (weeks ago).	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> I noticed last year that it was still there but wasn't worried about it	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> enough to say anything. I'll have to admit though that I hadn't noticed	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> the change.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	It was already a lot more blurry and subtle than after we changed it 10 years ago because the text was harder to read with the background.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>>> (ps - we've been getting a growing number of volunteers around the site,	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>>> they think it's the last point of defence left)	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>> I think TR probably is the last rally point. All the other	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>> organizations I can think of have been weakened or corrupted: OSI, LF,	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>> EFF, even FSF, FFII, FSFe, and so on. So many good sites have vanished	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>> in general, in more languages than just English.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> I heard more complaints about the FSF's passivity. We can fill this gap.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> ps - when filling up daily links I jump to the 'right'/suitable section	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> using search as it's fastest to do.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> Makes sense. I notice there are a lot of feeds and don't know how long	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> it takes to reload them in QuiteRSS but it is on the order of ten or	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	> more minutes.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	Maybe first refresh will take VASTLY longer. On my 10-y-o- PC it takes about 1 minute to refresh everything.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	The political stuff is under one or few categories; I recently grouped together more "green" things and "tech" (non-Linux) things.	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> use case/example scenario. you find a news item about the Internet,	Jun 20 08:41
schestowitz	>> search Links file (or copy of it) for "net neu", add the text, url,	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	>> title under there. At the end you can automate removing the cruft (empty	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	>> entries), as outlines in previous email.	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> Ok. I'll need to write some helper scripts in perl first. One to cull	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> the empty entries. Another to look for missing components. Lastly, one	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> to go through the archives and look for duplicates.	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	QuiteRSS handles duplicates OK, but.... I also keep one MASSIVE text file with most past daily links. I can check there for duplicates in text/URL by searching substrings there.	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	>> Will Hill used to briefly do this over a decade ago, but he lacked time	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	>> to carry on.	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> I can see it will take quite a bit of time. I'll have to experiment on	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> ways to optimize the work flow. I have time but not necessarily all in	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> one block. So I'll have to figure out the best way to divide the tasks	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	> while minimizing the time spent re-orienting in the tasks.	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	It's similar to what you already do, but that needs putting/filing under headings, which you can always alter (might take time, so I resuse these). Removing empty categories is something I always did manually.	Jun 20 08:42
schestowitz	How to split	Jun 20 08:54
schestowitz	Maybe do two batches of Daily Links per day? One for tech and one non-tech? Would be hard when/if you have a tech pick to add and I have non-tech things to add.	Jun 20 08:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wfvoogd/status/1141638905042784256	Jun 20 10:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz Feeling disrespected or otherwise offended is a choice. When one recognises this occurs a lot, one sho… https://t.co/Ke9bnZzJZX		Jun 20 10:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz Feeling disrespected or otherwise offended is a choice. When one recognises this occurs a lot, one sho… https://t.co/Ke9bnZzJZX		Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz	Feeling disrespected or otherwise offended is a choice. When one recognises this occurs a lot, one should have its head examined. #FreedomOfSpeech	Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz	0 replies 1 retweet 0 likes	Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz		Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1141640229998202882	Jun 20 10:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz @Pour_EVA @DavidGlaude		Jun 20 10:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zgrerbas/status/1141640498379218944	Jun 20 10:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zgrerbas: meşhurların hoşlarına gitmeyen görüntülerini fikri mülkiyeti kötüye kullanarak kaldırtmasından söz ediliyor burada https://t.co/fkNhe0DNgj		Jun 20 10:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Misuse of #copyright #law obviously: Kim #Kardashian #DeepFake Video Removed By Copyright Claim https://t.co/cTAfNHYM7b		Jun 20 10:40
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 10:40
schestowitz	özgür erbaş Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 20 10:40
schestowitz	meşhurların hoşlarına gitmeyen görüntülerini fikri mülkiyeti kötüye kullanarak kaldırtmasından söz ediliyor burada	Jun 20 10:40
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 10:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/cheekybunbuns/status/1141648737086951424	Jun 20 11:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cheekybunbuns: @schestowitz Hardly anyone is signing it		Jun 20 11:24
schestowitz	the nature of petitions...	Jun 20 11:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/estherschmeer/status/1141653335319052289	Jun 20 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@estherschmeer: Shocking regime changes! https://t.co/1pkjx4XGys		Jun 20 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Under the current Australian regime, for the first time ever, a government >openly< mandated back doors… https://t.co/4kLKelGeVs		Jun 20 11:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MellowOchre/status/1141656388575334400	Jun 20 11:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MellowOchre: but will these 'agents' be any good? https://t.co/UxM5s3UGEI https://t.co/mwknVQax5m		Jun 20 11:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com \| The Matrix Reloaded - Neo vs Three Agents - YouTube		Jun 20 11:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: An Army of Robot #Surveillance Guards Is Coming https://t.co/QI2FPlCmUM		Jun 20 11:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/cheekybunbuns/status/1141674435558215681	Jun 20 13:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cheekybunbuns: @schestowitz Not really, there are petitions on there with thousands (and millions) of signatures. Either people do… https://t.co/PJ8HpWNvHQ		Jun 20 13:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cheekybunbuns: @schestowitz Not really, there are petitions on there with thousands (and millions) of signatures. Either people do… https://t.co/PJ8HpWNvHQ		Jun 20 13:30
schestowitz	"Not really, there are petitions on there with thousands (and millions) of signatures. Either people don't care about the directive or they don't know."	Jun 20 13:30
schestowitz	There are many petitions for the same thing, 'diluting' their impact	Jun 20 13:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lilycaliber/status/1141684374104096770	Jun 20 13:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@lilycaliber: Why am i not surprised? https://t.co/nDSS7ly28C		Jun 20 13:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks National Security Agency ( #NSA ) in #Coreboot and #imperialism Back Doors in #Microsoft #Windows Out of… https://t.co/K8yvOvx30W		Jun 20 13:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chrismonster16/status/1141687861780942848	Jun 20 13:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chrismonster16: @schestowitz @wikileaks That's why we don't use Windows around here :)		Jun 20 13:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PrincessBibiRF_/status/1141692767422300163	Jun 20 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: EXPOSE This @wikileaks @Snowden @KremlinRussia_E @M_Simonyan @MedvedevRussiaE @pamfoundation All Working On JulianA… https://t.co/7d6whDoay9		Jun 20 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: EXPOSE This @wikileaks @Snowden @KremlinRussia_E @M_Simonyan @MedvedevRussiaE @pamfoundation All Working On JulianA… https://t.co/7d6whDoay9		Jun 20 14:04
schestowitz	"EXPOSE This @wikileaks @Snowden @KremlinRussia_E @M_Simonyan @MedvedevRussiaE @pamfoundation All Working On JulianAssange Case We Must Expose This Corrupted Judge's Husband Connection with MI6 She Must Be Disbarred #BritishJudicialCouncil @Nigel_Farage @jeremycorbyn Help US."	Jun 20 14:04
schestowitz	=	Jun 20 15:25
schestowitz	x https://www.cbronline.com/news/linux-vulnerability-netflix	Jun 20 15:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbronline.com \| Critical Linux Vulnerability Identified by Netflix: Red Hat, SUSE, AWS All Post Advisories		Jun 20 15:25
schestowitz	=	Jun 20 15:25
schestowitz	x https://hub.packtpub.com/docker-and-microsoft-collaborate-over-wsl-2-future-of-docker-desktop-for-windows-is-near/	Jun 20 15:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hub.packtpub.com \| Docker and Microsoft collaborate over WSL 2, future of Docker Desktop for Windows is near \| Packt Hub		Jun 20 15:25
schestowitz	=	Jun 20 15:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/nrj5k/status/1141718694067875840	Jun 20 15:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nrj5k: Remember folks #Microsoft is not your feiend. Never has. Never will be. #windowscult #bully Microsoft should have n… https://t.co/Ct0CAvH2XM		Jun 20 15:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nrj5k: Remember folks #Microsoft is not your feiend. Never has. Never will be. #windowscult #bully Microsoft should have n… https://t.co/Ct0CAvH2XM		Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	More	Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	Remember folks #Microsoft is not your feiend. Never has. Never will be.	Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	#windowscult #bully	Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	Microsoft should have never been allowed into the Linux Foundation	Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 15:47
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/still-want-to-be-upc-judge-upc.html?showComment=1559829698965#c3950073418296332474	Jun 20 16:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| Still want to be a UPC judge? UPC Preparatory Committee seeking new "top-up" applicants - The IPKat		Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	When looking at Art 10 of the Statute, I would not be inclined to apply for a job as judge at the UPC.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	According to Art 10(1) Statute, “A judge may be deprived of his or her office or of other benefits only if the Praesidium decides that that judge no longer fulfils the requisite conditions or meets the obligations arising from his or her office. The judge concerned shall be heard but shall not take part in the deliberations.”	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	The whole statute is silent about means of redress for a judge removed from Office. It is an internal decision of the Praesidium which cannot presently be challenged whatsoever.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	It could for instance have been the Court of Appeal sitting in the composition when deciding upon a referral, cf. R 238A UPC. It could have been the CJEU, but as the CJEU should play a role as small as possible in the UPCA, this possibility was clearly not envisaged.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	As for many supranational organisations, it might be the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labour Organisation in Geneva (ILO-AT). The Statute is silent on this point either. The experience shown when dealing with complaints of staff members of the EPO, it is not a court one could rely upon to see his rights guaranteed. Unless the management of a supranational organisation makes a gross mistake, the ILO-AT merely checks if the	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	procedure has been respected, but not if the procedure is unfair or biased in favour of management.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	The same considerations are valid presently for the position of member of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO, as it is the clear aim of the new regulations to dismiss some of them after a first five year period, as it is the case for newly recruited examiners. Unless I would have a possibility to go back in my previous job, it is a delicate decision to take. This is the more so nowadays, as on top of it, former members of the Boards have to	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	ask permission by the AC of the EPO to exercise any activity be it gainful or not.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	One could expect that judges of the UPC might be later faced by a similar decision of the Administrative Committee of the UPCA.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	The whole idea to have judges which can be reappointed, but where the reappointment criteria are not public, does not correspond to the idea of a truly independent judge. At the UPC it is even worse as judges can be part-time judges! See Art 3(5 and 6)-Statute. I do not know any legal system in which part-time judges are employed when it comes to dealing with multi-million assets.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	That such a treaty has been ratified by numerous parliaments shows that their members did not look into detail at what they were actually ratifying.	Jun 20 16:12
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 16:12
acer-box	@zoobab http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/still-want-to-be-upc-judge-upc.html?showComment=1559829698965#c3950073418296332474	Jun 20 16:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1141732213542641666	Jun 20 16:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz To be fair, it’s the most counterfeited shoe in existence 🤣		Jun 20 16:42
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/still-want-to-be-upc-judge-upc.html?showComment=1559825789341#c5658846076897226013	Jun 20 16:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| Still want to be a UPC judge? UPC Preparatory Committee seeking new "top-up" applicants - The IPKat		Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	"Get a law degree first :-)"	Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/the-slow-disappearance-of-disclaimers.html?showComment=1560847686021#c3257548331042268136	Jun 20 16:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The slow disappearance of disclaimers: the CJEU decision in Hansson, C-705/17 - The IPKat		Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	(1) The UK also has disclaimers under section 13 of the Trade Marks Act 1994. They are rarely, if ever, demanded by examiners today but they used to be a frequent requirement and there must be many old registrations that continue to be subject to them.	Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	(2) The Court seems to assume that the disclaimed element must be descriptive. However, disclaimers can also be requested voluntarily, e.g. in settlement of a dispute, and in those circumstances the disclaimed element can be inherently distinctive. The disclaimer is effectively a public promise not to enforce the trade mark against users of the earlier right.	Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 16:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/RSmiDPCA/status/1141733450845585408	Jun 20 17:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RSmiDPCA: @nrj5k @schestowitz Whoa! I agree why mess up linux with Microsoft products like windows 10. All they want is to… https://t.co/SrUMo1SP48		Jun 20 17:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RSmiDPCA: @nrj5k @schestowitz Whoa! I agree why mess up linux with Microsoft products like windows 10. All they want is to… https://t.co/SrUMo1SP48		Jun 20 17:01
schestowitz	"Whoa! I agree why mess up linux with Microsoft products like windows 10. All they want is to ultimately take over linux and destroy it as their competitor."	Jun 20 17:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/nrj5k/status/1141736397667217409	Jun 20 17:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nrj5k: @RSmiDPCA @schestowitz Slowly from within		Jun 20 17:01
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/06/11/monopoly-tactics/	Jun 20 17:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Chapter 10: Moving Forward — Getting the Best Results From Open Source With Your Monopoly \| Techrights		Jun 20 17:02
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:15
schestowitz	#epo is a dictatorship https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1141686720322314241	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: Rereading @hintjens 2007 interview: "So the solution to the patent issue is ultimately democracy, and that is a ver… https://t.co/MU04JdPJaY		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: Rereading @hintjens 2007 interview: "So the solution to the patent issue is ultimately democracy, and that is a ver… https://t.co/MU04JdPJaY		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	If. IFF. #Bitcoin https://twitter.com/clayfromdabay/status/1140914920705314816	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@clayfromdabay: Libra will be the USD of the internet. Bitcoin is the Gold of the internet. One does not invest in USD, but nearly… https://t.co/B1Z7m9lf6y		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@clayfromdabay: Libra will be the USD of the internet. Bitcoin is the Gold of the internet. One does not invest in USD, but nearly… https://t.co/B1Z7m9lf6y		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	Says #defamationmill 'guardian' which takes bribes from famous criminal #billgates (who drains the economy, evades tax and has a scam 'charity') https://twitter.com/Harryslaststand/status/1140946500735909888	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Harryslaststand: Facebook needs to be stopped before it subverts our democracies and economies. https://t.co/l8QYHBlHVs #Libra		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theguardian.com \| Libra: Facebook launches cryptocurrency in bid to shake up global finance \| Technology \| The Guardian		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	And based on their "credit score" (which they derive from #surveillance of all things) they can ban you from "your bank" and take away your money. Also for purely political (Trump government ) reasons. https://twitter.com/simplyirfan/status/1141002358161195009	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@simplyirfan: Facebook launched their Cryptocurrency. They already have Data of the 2 billion people. Not just name, ID, address,… https://t.co/r2FJxMisLb		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@simplyirfan: Facebook launched their Cryptocurrency. They already have Data of the 2 billion people. Not just name, ID, address,… https://t.co/r2FJxMisLb		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	#zuckerberg #suckercoin #dumbfucks #fb #libra https://twitter.com/RichardHeartWin/status/1141027983962058753	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RichardHeartWin: The #Libra profit model is to get you to give them real USD which they invest and keep the interest on, while you g… https://t.co/5ujCM0nC2d		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RichardHeartWin: The #Libra profit model is to get you to give them real USD which they invest and keep the interest on, while you g… https://t.co/5ujCM0nC2d		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	#whitepaper #whiteprivilege #zuckerberg #suckercoin #dumbfucks https://twitter.com/grimy_trades/status/1140914340331216896	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@grimy_trades: Ok I'm done reading the #libra whitepaper. https://t.co/AmDhXuw6vL		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@grimy_trades: Ok I'm done reading the #libra whitepaper. https://t.co/AmDhXuw6vL		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	The #Greenland ice sheet is melting unusually fast	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/17/the-greenland-ice-sheet-is-melting-unusually-fast	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.economist.com \| The Greenland ice sheet is melting unusually fast - Daily chart		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	Everyday reality at #epo https://twitter.com/MSServices_info/status/1141424716508479489 background/overview: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MSServices_info: Health issues, negative behavior consequences of workplace bullying, researchers say \| #msservicesglobal🌐… https://t.co/HQhkiySae6		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MSServices_info: Health issues, negative behavior consequences of workplace bullying, researchers say \| #msservicesglobal🌐… https://t.co/HQhkiySae6		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| EPO - Techrights		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	#lesechos was bribed by #epo for #inventoraward coverage and later even removed unfavourable coverage about EPO #corruption https://twitter.com/HalioDx/status/1141678811127472128 see http://techrights.org/2015/06/18/les-echos-epo-censorship/	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HalioDx: "Jérôme Galon, l'inventeur européen qui révolutionne l'oncologie" à lire dans @LesEchos, article de @paulmolga… https://t.co/Dp3CWDiAhI		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HalioDx: "Jérôme Galon, l'inventeur européen qui révolutionne l'oncologie" à lire dans @LesEchos, article de @paulmolga… https://t.co/Dp3CWDiAhI		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	A front group of the #cartel of #law firms decides how to split the money among them. Whose money? People who actually make stuff, i.e. non-lawyers. #aba is just a drain on the economy. https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2019/06/opinion-dividing-contingent.html	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| French Newspaper Les Echos Censors Criticism of Benoît Battistelli and the EPO (Updated) \| Techrights		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentlyo.com \| ABA Issues Opinion on Dividing Contingent Fees with Prior Counsel \| Patently-O		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	#adidas thought it 'owned' three lines http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/general-court-confirms-invalidity-of.html http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| General Court confirms invalidity of (one of the) adidas three-stripe mark(s) - The IPKat		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| EUIPO - Techrights		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	Completely and totally insane: #copyright #law for a brew (water with some chemicals in it) http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/energy-drink-loses-its-fizz.html not #trademark	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| Energy drink loses its fizz - The IPKat		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	When #patents on life/nature proponents like Kevin E. Noonan say "to the Rescue" they mean "to the grave"; he actively advocates killing poor people so that his #law firm gets a lot richer.What sociopaths. https://www.patentdocs.org/2019/06/ftc-to-the-rescue-regarding-high-drug-prices-and-patents.html	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.patentdocs.org \| Patent Docs: FTC to the Rescue Regarding High Drug Prices and Patents		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	#cafc continues to throw out fake US #patents https://patentlyo.com/patent/2019/06/technique-usually-obvious.html about time, better late than never. Well done, Sharon and team... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit_%28CAFC%29	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentlyo.com \| Using a Technique in a Known Way is Usually Obvious \| Patently-O		Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) - Techrights		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	I see that 'naughty' @zoobab heckles #teamupc or liars from #bristowsUPC in the comments http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/06/still-want-to-be-upc-judge-upc.html?showComment=1559825789341#c5658846076897226013 Bristows LLP: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| Still want to be a UPC judge? UPC Preparatory Committee seeking new "top-up" applicants - The IPKat		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Bristows LLP - Techrights		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	So standing the trial will be Laura Peter, #USPTO Deputy Director who came from a #patenttroll	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	#trump has truly made the @uspto deplorable, corrupt, a circus! http://techrights.org/2018/11/11/andrei-iancu-and-laura-peter/	Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	➬	Jun 20 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Andrei Iancu and Laura Peter Are Two Proponents of Patent Trolls at the Top of the USPTO \| Techrights		Jun 20 17:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sebgoa/status/1141745017029124096	Jun 20 17:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sebgoa: @schestowitz I just file github issues and from time to time write couple lines of code		Jun 20 17:30
schestowitz	yeah, I was talking in general terms, not you :-)	Jun 20 17:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sebgoa/status/1141745388237578242	Jun 20 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sebgoa: @schestowitz I know		Jun 20 17:34
schestowitz	eventually github in Microsoft's hands will be another due like Nokia	Jun 20 17:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EmperorBlargus/status/1141758921146867718	Jun 20 18:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EmperorBlargus: @schestowitz There are fascist or nazi movements in a lot of countries and the ability to be prejudiced against oth… https://t.co/1sk8aRoTse		Jun 20 18:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EmperorBlargus: @schestowitz There are fascist or nazi movements in a lot of countries and the ability to be prejudiced against oth… https://t.co/1sk8aRoTse		Jun 20 18:35
schestowitz	"There are fascist or nazi movements in a lot of countries and the ability to be prejudiced against others is not restricted to one colour of people (or orientation). However, because it's about nationalist and race bigotry each #fascist movement easily gets opposed to the rest."	Jun 20 18:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chadmccullough/status/1141765410762760192	Jun 20 18:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chadmccullough: Yeah, the "crowd" at this event doesn't care about facts. They just like that he's a bigoted racist. https://t.co/mQ3fTG1IgY		Jun 20 18:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: The #demented #orangenazi aiming low (the crowd might now care about facts) https://t.co/dfVgEWs97c		Jun 20 18:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/marianico123/status/1141773278345699332	Jun 20 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@marianico123: @schestowitz pura ideologia		Jun 20 19:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1141775606893277184	Jun 20 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Old people dying reduces social costs and 'frees up' any wealth they've been sitting on. Old Vets dying does even m… https://t.co/dsJmaq1Z0p		Jun 20 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Old people dying reduces social costs and 'frees up' any wealth they've been sitting on. Old Vets dying does even m… https://t.co/dsJmaq1Z0p		Jun 20 19:38
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 19:38
schestowitz	More Kevin Quinn Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 20 19:38
schestowitz	Old people dying reduces social costs and 'frees up' any wealth they've been sitting on. Old Vets dying does even more but not as much as young vets dying.	Jun 20 19:38
schestowitz	"	Jun 20 19:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1141789834270261248	Jun 20 20:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Most of these companies are mental sweat shops. It’s just difficult for some people to disassociate fa… https://t.co/IvhRQQ0o5C		Jun 20 20:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Most of these companies are mental sweat shops. It’s just difficult for some people to disassociate fa… https://t.co/IvhRQQ0o5C		Jun 20 20:49
schestowitz	"Most of these companies are mental sweat shops. It’s just difficult for some people to disassociate fair pay from fair treatment."	Jun 20 20:49
schestowitz	>> non-tech? Would be hard when/if you have a tech pick to add and I have	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	>> non-tech things to add.	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	> Probably best to keep it in one batch. However, should we keep the file	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	> on the server where we can both work on it?	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	> However, TR is missing the perl module I was planning on using:	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	> $ perl -MHTML::TreeBuilder::XPath	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	> Can't locate HTML/TreeBuilder/XPath.pm in @INC (@INC contains:	Jun 20 21:16
schestowitz	> /usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/local/share/perl5	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 .).	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> I'm going to need it for an automated way to search for duplicate links	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> as well as to check for empty or missing elements.	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> Or alternatively, maybe I can just use sshfs for a FUSE mount over SFTP.	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	FFII used to use, to write press releases, web software that lets multiple people edit at the same time, in real-time. Can we explore such a thing? Can be self-hosted perhaps. it was called etherpad iirc.	Jun 20 21:17
schestowitz	> Thanks for the template. I will tidy it up.	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> I've been looking at it a little and spent some time making a parser to	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> delete the empty nodes. I notice that there are a lot of thing like:	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <h3><a name="foo">foobar</a></h3>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <ul>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <h3>foobar</h3>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <ul>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <h3>foobar</h3>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <ul>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <h3>foobar</h3>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> <ul></ul></li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> </ul></li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> </ul></li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> </ul></li>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> How much leeway is there in redesigning the template so that it would be	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	> closer to the following?	Jun 20 21:19
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <h3><a name="foo">foobar</a></h3>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <ul>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <h4>foobar</h4>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <ul>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <h5>foobar</h5>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <ul>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <h6>foobar</h6>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> <ul></ul></li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> </ul></li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> </ul></li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> </ul></li>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	>	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> I have a parser that will delete most of the empty nodes recursively but	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> I think my solution is weird and it might be easier if the headings were	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> descending properly. I am also surprised that recursively deleting	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> empty XML or XHTML nodes is not a commonly documented task. I can't	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> have been the first and it's not so easy as to be obvious, so that	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> leaves a puzzle.	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	Had I known that I would use more or less the same template for like a decade, I'd have written programs to help with it :-)	Jun 20 21:20
schestowitz	> Dear Roy,	Jun 20 21:26
schestowitz	> I just received this mail. Have a day.	Jun 20 21:26
schestowitz	Excellent, thank you, sir/madam.	Jun 20 21:26
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schestowitz	Wow, you've got quite a lot of articles regarding them.. do i dare search for http://linux.org on there? lol :)	Jun 21 04:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linux.org \| Linux.org		Jun 21 04:59
schestowitz	Report this message sent 7 hours ago from Linux.org Delete this message sent 7 hours ago from Linux.org	Jun 21 04:59
schestowitz	7h 7 hours ago	Jun 21 04:59
schestowitz		Jun 21 04:59
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation …	Jun 21 04:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Linux Foundation - Techrights		Jun 21 04:59
schestowitz	Delete this message sent 6 hours ago from Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 21 04:59
schestowitz	6h 6 hours ago	Jun 21 04:59
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schestowitz	Yep - that's what I saw on there and said you covered em quite a bit! :)	Jun 21 04:59
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306431971816457	Jun 21 05:14
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site had to scrollback so fa…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:14
acer-box	had to scrollback so far for this. #usbguard. https://usbguard.github.io/	Jun 21 05:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-usbguard.github.io \| home \| USBGuard		Jun 21 05:14
acer-box	"The USBGuard software framework helps to protect your computer against rogue USB devices (a.k.a. BadUSB) by implementing basic whitelisting and blacklisting capabilities based on device attributes."	Jun 21 05:14
acer-box	This is 1 stopgap until adaptive USB condoms arrive on market. (I imagine someone is thinking it right now! Produce it please!)	Jun 21 05:14
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306411300786081	Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	" Facebook had long mentioned aiming to do this during failed subscription motion, national ID requirement and international ISP. See the trend? They would be this huge person directory tracking every individual with geospatial precision. Homes would need Faraday cages to stand a chance of hiding. Only zuckerberg would be absent from this map."	Jun 21 05:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Facebook had long menti…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306380953248321	Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	#dillo. A browser parses HTML. All the extensions added to browsers are nihilist. There are applications that decode those files. Imagine if banking was relegated to ssh, as2 or such security-focused protocol. Then we could have proper digital ID. Isolated transaction channels. Munging services does not work well for anything. Multiplexing is the most munging needs be.	Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	Digital ID would sign content.	Jun 21 05:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site #dillo. A browser parse…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	#dontcrossthestreams #reesespieces #pnbjelly #mixedupandconfused	Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:15
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306333273620790	Jun 21 05:16
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site yes. Evil wins. The wor…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:16
acer-box	yes. Evil wins. The world ends shortly after. The end.	Jun 21 05:16
acer-box		Jun 21 05:16
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:16
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306322624604946	Jun 21 05:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site ever thought to let all…" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:16
acer-box	"ever thought to let all that is right die by the wayside and have the common evils run amok? I bet the world wouldn't last a season."	Jun 21 05:16
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306288865404118	Jun 21 05:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site hahahahaha" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:17
acer-box	" hahahahaha"	Jun 21 05:17
acer-box	https://linuxrocks.online/users/nergal/statuses/102306277017667784	Jun 21 05:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxrocks.online \| NixiИ: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site what does iophk mean?" - LinuxRocks.Online		Jun 21 05:17
acer-box	"what does iophk mean?"	Jun 21 05:17
acer-box	a friends's nickname	Jun 21 05:17
acer-box	a friend's nickname	Jun 21 05:17
acer-box	https://shitposter.club/objects/82ef0d40-248f-4d54-bf0f-88aa2235f674	Jun 21 05:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shitposter.club \| Pleroma		Jun 21 05:18
acer-box	"Archive link for those of us on VPN/Tor: https://archive.fo/chDln"	Jun 21 05:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.fo \| Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose desperate working conditions - The Verge		Jun 21 05:18
acer-box	https://functional.cafe/users/amiloradovsky/statuses/102305400686892237	Jun 21 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-functional.cafe \| Andrew Miloradovsky: "@DrWhax@mastodon.social @schestowitz@pleroma.site…" - Functional Café		Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	OTOH, in case of the proprietary s/w, the claims are very well grounded.	Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	In general, more openness -- better, but one shouldn't assume much.	Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	https://freespeechextremist.com/objects/0097adbf-9710-46e4-a4c7-bb12714a3171	Jun 21 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-freespeechextremist.com \| Pleroma		Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	"Ghostery was founded as an ad industry front and this has been scrubbed from the entire internet, though hints of it remain on the Wikipedia page (such as how they used to collect telemetry on all the dummies who used the extension but they are really sorry and won't do that anymore). Was a big subject of discussion back on Fuckedcompany."	Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	https://functional.cafe/users/amiloradovsky/statuses/102305383657097395	Jun 21 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-functional.cafe \| Andrew Miloradovsky: "@DrWhax@mastodon.social @schestowitz@pleroma.site…" - Functional Café		Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	" Yep, until it's explicitly declassified. The point: be skeptical about the claims of backdoors."	Jun 21 05:19
acer-box	https://mastodon.social/users/DrWhax/statuses/102305373297531108	Jun 21 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social \| DrWhax: "@amiloradovsky@functional.cafe @schestowitz@plero…" - Mastodon		Jun 21 05:20
acer-box	@amiloradovsky @schestowitz Classified is classified though.. no NDA’s on that.."	Jun 21 05:20
acer-box	https://functional.cafe/users/amiloradovsky/statuses/102305370433577497	Jun 21 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-functional.cafe \| Andrew Miloradovsky: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site I mean, you have to be …" - Functional Café		Jun 21 05:20
acer-box	" I mean, you have to be really clever to add backdoors into an open-source project. And, if not straight-forwardly, from the name of the NSA, then from some other (org's) name, it doesn't matter."	Jun 21 05:20
acer-box	https://functional.cafe/users/amiloradovsky/statuses/102305350979952298	Jun 21 05:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-functional.cafe \| Andrew Miloradovsky: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Long time ago (several …" - Functional Café		Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	Long time ago (several years), there was a letter in the #OpenBSD mailing list, where somebody confessed that they added backdoors to the IPsec implementation, and now, since the NDA is expired, they want to tell the world about it.	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	It was just before Christmas, and I'm not sure whether they were serious or just wanted the dev's to spend it auditing the code :)	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	https://freespeechextremist.com/objects/d15c69a6-608a-4e38-af5f-6946ccba235d	Jun 21 05:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-freespeechextremist.com \| Pleroma		Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	" Facecoin serves no useful purpose. The overhead of credit cards is usually absorbed by vendors, so any savings on transaction fees are invisible to the customer, and with the tremendous political scrutiny FB is under it will no doubt be FAR more restrictive than an ordinary credit card."	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	https://thedisco.social/objects/2254079f-af6b-4800-9737-49ca682088cb	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	idk the female ads explicitly have references to things where kids could be like "what does that mean?" while the male ones don't, they're just suggestive. I feel like there's more to this story.	Jun 21 05:21
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acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:21
acer-box	https://pleroma.site/notice/9k2n7tsdXYfiV8awCm	Jun 21 05:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site \| Pleroma		Jun 21 05:22
acer-box	"it might"	Jun 21 05:22
acer-box	https://qoto.org/users/FrancyBaby/statuses/102304333034862991	Jun 21 05:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-qoto.org \| FrancyBaby: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site True for multiple decad…" - QOTO Mastodon		Jun 21 05:22
acer-box	"True for multiple decades."	Jun 21 05:22
acer-box	https://social.linux.pizza/users/finlaydag33k/statuses/102303773167434738	Jun 21 05:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.linux.pizza \| Aroop Roelofs: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site wait... the hell is thi…" - LinuxPizza		Jun 21 05:23
acer-box	"wait... the hell is this?"	Jun 21 05:23
acer-box	https://bsd.network/users/rocket357/statuses/102303622757757720	Jun 21 05:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bsd.network \| Jonathon: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Yeah, I did an instal…" - BSD Network		Jun 21 05:24
acer-box	"Yeah, I did an install just a few hours ago and noticed 1.15. Neat."	Jun 21 05:24
acer-box	https://fosstodon.org/users/Extarys/statuses/102302907216686435	Jun 21 05:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org \| Extarys :manjaro:: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Page not found and no p…" - Fosstodon		Jun 21 05:24
acer-box	"Page not found and no page "	Jun 21 05:24
acer-box	Off. These should work.	Jun 21 05:25
acer-box	Odd. These should work.	Jun 21 05:25
schestowitz	> so, the great thing about your wiki and the librethreat db is that you can add entries / threats to it yourself.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> for example, i could write an entry on patents. but i REALLY think you should do that one. but i will if you are too busy or really whatever reason.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> now, if i turn that entire handbook into a threat database format (and i most likely will) i think that should go into some kind of public buffer so that your community can offer feedback on it-- or nominate entries. once they are nominated in they go.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> if theres no interest then we can pick new entries ourselves. or we can add them as there are relevant stories in the tech world.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> i figured there should be an entry for code of conduct. by the time it affects stallman, at libreplanet, i think it proves coc is a threat.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> BUT-- very importantly, i think some "finesse" ought to go into this entry.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> and one way to accomplish that in my opinion, is to acknowledge that bigotry/hate/discrimination is also a threat, even if a code of conduct is perhaps bad medicine for a real problem.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> so... i think ive done fairly well with that here.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> however, id have you sleep on this one. think about if youre ready to add these two. they compliment each other.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> think about if you want to, if you want to change or rewrite anything. because if you think you ought to, then you probably should.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> i want these entries-- if added-- to be as good as they can be.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	> i would gladly bow to your judgment on exactly what to do with these. indeed, i am doing precisely that.	Jun 21 05:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:28
schestowitz	> i am planning to mirror the database on the free media alliance website.	Jun 21 05:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 05:28
schestowitz	> here are the two entries:	Jun 21 05:28
schestowitz	I've just added these.	Jun 21 05:28
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/media/987843547919888384?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987843547919888384:0:0:0:987845770154758144	Jun 21 05:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| #nature #wildlife #extinction #life		Jun 21 05:37
acer-box	"What a cutie !"	Jun 21 05:37
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/988099535343058944?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:988099535343058944:0:0:0:988108182477946880	Jun 21 05:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| 'Canary in the Coal Mine': Experts Warn of Climate Tipping Point as Scientists Find Permafrost Thawing 70 Years Ahead of Schedule		Jun 21 05:39
acer-box	"Yeah and with russian information policy we can only imagine how it looks like in Siberia."	Jun 21 05:39
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987994291193757696?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987994291193757696:0:0:0:988008127327420416	Jun 21 05:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Ubuntu says i386 to be 86'd with Eoan 19.10 release: Ageing 32-bit x86 support will be ex-86		Jun 21 05:39
acer-box	"Remember that Canonical Ltd. is mainly interested in the domestic consumer workstation market and therefore, this market is aimed at the home and S/ME based users (which generally tend to use x86_64 based devices)."	Jun 21 05:39
acer-box	it's a problem for legacy applications	Jun 21 05:39
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987996586400792576?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987996586400792576:0:0:0:988007013275746304	Jun 21 05:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| The Linux Foundation's Business Model		Jun 21 05:40
acer-box	"I am a bit confused with the above graphic, are you suggesting that sysadmins shouldn't be paid for their services?"	Jun 21 05:40
acer-box	No, it's mocking their nontechnical staff	Jun 21 05:40
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/media/987581200238891008?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987581200238891008:0:0:0:987906291675582464	Jun 21 05:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| #topicip still marked as 'under construction' (yesterday). 'Monetising' a career of #fraud in #zagreb #croatia and #epo (Munich, Germany). Above the law? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Željko_Topić		Jun 21 05:40
acer-box	'o cemu ti pises?"	Jun 21 05:40
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987376821772836864?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987376821772836864:987382293620101120:987878126170382336:0:987893291749621760	Jun 21 05:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Web-based DNA sequencers getting compromised through old, unpatched flaw - Help Net Security		Jun 21 05:41
acer-box	"When I first saw the documentary, it was new & as yet unfiltered, but I would hope there is some oversight by the state in some regard."	Jun 21 05:41
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/987529558935683072?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:987529558935683072:0:0:0:988111395937189888	Jun 21 05:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Without swift action on climate change, heat waves could kill thousands in U.S. cities		Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	"Fake News"	Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/988386665703825408?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:988386665703825408:0:0:0:988410133208997888	Jun 21 05:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| It's Bad Journalism to Take Cops at Their...		Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	""	Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	"LLC corporations for profit pretending to be government commingling & colluding. Sociopaths wrecking private lives for paychecks on the rise !"	Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	"This article is complete nonsense. Violent Crime in Chicago is not down it is increasing. Homicides are up by any measure. Recidivism is a major issue. Checkout heyjackass.com for raw data."	Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	"http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/06/well-done-felony-charges-filed-after.html "	Jun 21 05:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cwbchicago.com \| CWB Chicago: Well done! Felony charges filed after steakhouse valet finds gun in customer's car, cops say		Jun 21 05:43
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/988430662719168512?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:988430662719168512:0:0:0:988434018388197376	Jun 21 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Lawyers rely on their #law being over-complicated (even if artificially, so they make up lingo/jargon) It wasn't always like this When #patent #law came to exist actual inventors could pursue #patents Remove the parasitic elements from the world of science to save innovation (lawyers perpetuate feuds/battles)		Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	"Right? It didn't use to be that way! I'm glad I found a solution that works for me. Knowing what I know now, just cements my resolve that there's no reason an attorney can't operate differently with their clients. I think lawyers who HELP their clients understand this stuff-- will have more business than they know what to do with! Those that don't, will continue to look like cowards."	Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/988459359074492416?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:988459359074492416:0:0:0:988461511652909056	Jun 21 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| Why Does the EPO Keep Praising People Who Promote Software Patents, Rewarding Them for Patent Thickets That Harm Software Developers?		Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	"Bright side for me? 230c! Bitch slap the G :p"	Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/988548354284331008?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:988548354284331008:0:0:0:988554817422348288	Jun 21 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Tux Machines 15th Year Party		Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	'\	Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	🎁 Happy	Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	Birthday�️	Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	"	Jun 21 05:44
acer-box	Thanks!	Jun 21 05:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213843#138ca49074030137ec347a163ef10931	Jun 21 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@psych@pluspora.com: #### [John Oliver Makes the Case for Impeaching Trump ASAP](https://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/57147-focus-john-oliver-makes-the-case-for-impeaching-trump-asap) #impeachment #sanityparty #sanityclause #johnoliver #crisis #section25 #fellini		Jun 21 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> readersupportednews.org \| FOCUS: John Oliver Makes the Case for Impeaching Trump ASAP		Jun 21 05:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15199567#72d2e3b07595013765840218b72fdf43	Jun 21 05:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Leave Big Open Source to #BigBusiness They already hijacked the major #opensource front groups anyway They control the narrative They own the press They bought #github ...		Jun 21 05:50
schestowitz	https://vizavi-reklama.ru/images/ico01-3.png	Jun 21 05:50
schestowitz	"OK, that’s a good start and I agree. I think the FSF has done a good job by calling out malware and spyware, specifically naming Windows, opposing restricted boot, alerting people to radio control computers in cell phones and the x86 equivalents, like Intel’s Management Engine. The FSF is trying to convince people that non free software is an injustice that no one wants. The Open Source people tried to convince people that free	Jun 21 05:51
schestowitz	software was technically superior and that other software was basically incompetence. So what’s missing? More importantly, what are the highest priorities that you see, and where will the effort be most efficient? What can we do to expand and complement these campaigns?"	Jun 21 05:51
schestowitz	When Novell signed the deal with Microsoft the FSF spoke out. Now? It seems to be keeping in the dark anything Microsoft does bad things.	Jun 21 05:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15240175#d94669a075cb0137ad7c52540039b762	Jun 21 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux.com still practically dead. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2019/06/18/linux-dot-com-killed/		Jun 21 05:52
schestowitz	"Your whole website is a 404 :\"	Jun 21 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> schestowitz.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » The Linux Foundation Killed Linux.com After Two Decades of News Service		Jun 21 05:52
schestowitz	"tried it a couple times in the past 5 hours, its loading here. still 404 on your side?"	Jun 21 05:52
schestowitz	Which browser?	Jun 21 05:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15210259	Jun 21 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ronnietucker@pluspora.com: Full Circle Weekly News #135 * Linux Command Line Editors Vulnerable to High Severity Bug * KDE 5.16 Is Now Available for Kubuntu * Debian 10 Buster-based Endless OS 3.6.0 Linux Distribution Now Available * Introducing Matrix 1.0 and the Matrix.org Foundation * System 76’s Supercharged Gazelle Laptop is Finally Available * Lenovo Thinkpad P Laptops Are Available with Ubuntu * Atari VCS Linux-power		Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	Linux Command Line Editors Vulnerable to High Severity Bug	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	KDE 5.16 Is Now Available for Kubuntu	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	Debian 10 Buster-based Endless OS 3.6.0 Linux Distribution Now Available	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	Introducing Matrix 1.0 and the Matrix.org Foundation	Jun 21 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fullcirclemagazine.org \| Full Circle Weekly News #135 \| Full Circle Magazine		Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	System 76’s Supercharged Gazelle Laptop is Finally Available	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	Lenovo Thinkpad P Laptops Are Available with Ubuntu	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	Atari VCS Linux-powered Gaming Console Is Now Available for Pre-order	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-135/	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	#ubuntu #linux #news #podcast	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 05:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15212032#43417e7073a101373d9e2986f53bbfc6	Jun 21 05:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #microsoft guidebook: how to kill Free software https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/06/12/1356223 #freesw #entryism #halloweendocuments		Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 05:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> soylentnews.org \| Microsoft's Ongoing Tactics Against Competitors Explained, Based on its Own Documents - SoylentNews		Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	“It’s Red Hat and their systemd that will destroy Linux.” by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	“And I still believe that Microsoft, or someone associated with them, financed the SCO trial.” by HiThere (866) on Thursday	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	oddly this accurate reply was censored by someone as -1 (troll): "And I still believe that Microsoft, or someone associated with them, financed the SCO trial: “BayStar and other money proxies” (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	another good comment:	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	“Mozilla is now one a completely subverted organization, which is why they broke all their privacy add ons and are now becoming a cloud browser, making it impossible to avoid your browser being fingerprinted and thus uniquely identifiable to anyone who owns the wires.”	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	#mozillacloudcontrol	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol - 3 days ago	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	The two comments above have my Seal of approval!	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	Way to Go man! Nailed both. Corporations Will try to destroy Linux. Only communities Can save it.	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	When justice is outlawed, outlaws Will do justice and be heroes( a tagline from a western I watched eons ago)	Jun 21 05:54
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 05:55
schestowitz	Communities too busy trying to survive fiscally by serving these companies	Jun 21 05:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15240602#24b6304075d4013765840218b72fdf43	Jun 21 05:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With #Regolith , #i3 Tiling Window Management Is Awesome, Strange and Easy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125087 #gnu #linux		Jun 21 05:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org \| With Regolith, i3 Tiling Window Management Is Awesome, Strange and Easy \| Tux Machines		Jun 21 05:55
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	iirc it correctly,	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	yeps. friends have been pointing it out. found myself almost tempted to add its repos to my ubuntu stratum in bedrock.	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	tomgrz - about 2 hours ago	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	Never liked Tiling Window Management. And I remember the days of TWM on Solaris. Just as soon as I could, I went to the DCE window manager - which was very much like xfce is today.	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol - about an hour ago	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	The closest Thing to window managers to me is IceWM.	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	Simple and effective	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	tomgrz - about an hour ago	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	Anyone remember those nice-n-heavy motif 3-D frames around the tom’s window manager windows? Those where the days. :-)	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	Looking Glass?	Jun 21 05:56
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 06:12
schestowitz	Dear Roy,	Jun 21 06:12
schestowitz	I just received this mail. Have a day.	Jun 21 06:12
schestowitz	Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.	Jun 21 06:12
schestowitz	‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐	Jun 21 06:12
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 06:12
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 06:13
schestowitz	> (see your post http://techrights.org/2019/03/29/campinos-nepotism-entryism/)	Jun 21 06:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Tall Tales From the Land of EPOnia: Indications of High-Level Club Med/EUIPO “Entryism” \| Techrights		Jun 21 06:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JoshuaZeidner/status/1141846228956786689	Jun 21 06:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JoshuaZeidner: @schestowitz Are you still ranting about the US? UK has deplorable wealth equality.		Jun 21 06:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JAKETM1998/status/1141912747879403520	Jun 21 06:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JAKETM1998: Okay, but are we growing horns? https://t.co/sys55JU9kh		Jun 21 06:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Only a few reporters could be bothered to note that at no point did the researchers directly, actually link the "h… https://t.co/SpOfM2gWuB		Jun 21 06:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/RobertCinci/status/1141924408619089921	Jun 21 06:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RobertCinci: Science journalism is trash. https://t.co/4MRHhjCU7s		Jun 21 06:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/dewclaws/status/1141925415814127616	Jun 21 06:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dewclaws: @schestowitz @NBCNews?		Jun 21 06:58
schestowitz	>>> have been the first and it's not so easy as to be obvious, so that	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	>>> leaves a puzzle.	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	>> Had I known that I would use more or less the same template for like a	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	>> decade, I'd have written programs to help with it :-)	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> When it comes to XML and SGML, machine readability is very important.	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> In general, when I encounter tasks I check to see if there's not	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> something that can be accomplished in an hour or two that would take	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> most of the work out of it. If a task becomes repetitive then I almost	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> always try to modify both the work flow and the tools.	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> Anyway, yesterday I uploaded two scripts to TR:	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> links-cull-empty.pl	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> links-find-duplicates.pl	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> They won't run in place, but with the presence of the	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath perl module the first will cull most of the	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> empty nodes leaving only a few top-level ones if they are empty. the	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> second compares two or more files for links in the first that are	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	> duplicated in the others.	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	I can see those now on the homedir. Would they not be run from a desktop rather than server side?	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	Let me check collaborative editors. Have not checked these for nearly a decade...	Jun 21 07:08
schestowitz	Maybe we can try this but it seems to be very major bloat	Jun 21 07:11
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etherpad#Etherpad_Lite	Jun 21 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Etherpad - Wikipedia		Jun 21 07:11
schestowitz	re etherpad	Jun 21 07:19
schestowitz	Been testing it using two laptops for almost 10 minutes.	Jun 21 07:19
schestowitz	It does not scale well	Jun 21 07:19
schestowitz	The file we work with is too largely, so it's taking up lots of RAM and does not sync well.	Jun 21 07:19
schestowitz	I once used it about 9 years ago when ffii was putting together a press release(those are small)	Jun 21 07:20
schestowitz	we need something else with techrights links, etherpad ain't suitable...	Jun 21 07:20
schestowitz	> Anyway, yesterday I uploaded two scripts to TR:	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	> links-cull-empty.pl	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	This works REALLY well.	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	See test (input)	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	and test2 (output)	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	only minor addition: removing <li><h5><a href=""></a></h5></li>	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	(I know it can be done with grep or search and replace	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	It's running OK on my laptop now.	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	Thanks!	Jun 21 07:31
schestowitz	> Anyway, yesterday I uploaded two scripts to TR:	Jun 21 07:39
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 07:39
schestowitz	> links-cull-empty.pl	Jun 21 07:39
schestowitz	I have also just noticed that the following empty categories show up in test2	Jun 21 07:39
schestowitz	Web Browsers	Jun 21 07:40
schestowitz	Openness/Sharing/Collaboration	Jun 21 07:40
schestowitz	attached tests with html suffix (my browser loathes the file without an extension	Jun 21 07:40
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15210508#14d20b60740b0137a1114061862b8e7b	Jun 21 07:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: All of #apple stuff is back/bugdoored, just as intended. CEO #TimCrook has moreover added the company to #nsa PRISM, so any time he speaks of #privacy he is consciously lying to the cult. https://fossbytes.com/cellebrite-claims-it-can-unlock-any-iphone-and-ipad-1-4-billion-apple-devices-hackable/		Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 07:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossbytes.com \| Cellebrite Claims It Can Unlock 'Any' iPhone And iPad, 1.4 Billion Apple Devices Hackable		Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	Knowing about a vuln and not telling the developer about it should be a crime, with a fine no business or government can pay without bankrupting itself. Whistleblowers should be paid a bounty, from the fine, to encourage enforcement. If the developer doesn’t warn users, that should also be a crime. If the code is totally anonymous, the discoverer of the vuln should warn the world, wait a while, and then disclose everything.	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	I foreign governments won’t extradite, consider that refusal to be a substantive declaration of war.	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	Too extreme? Try Dan Geer’s modest proposal at Black Hat 2014. https://invidio.us/watch?v=nT-TGvYOBpI Start at 25:32. Actual proposal is at 27:30.	Jun 21 07:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us \| Cybersecurity as Realpolitik by Dan Geer presented at Black Hat USA 2014 - Invidious		Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	Knowing about a vuln and not telling the developer about it should be a crime, with a fine no business or government can pay without bankrupting itself	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	sounds like the infosec version of good samaritan law (or rather duty to rescue) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue#Common_law_system	Jun 21 07:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Duty to rescue - Wikipedia		Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	or the orwellian “see something, say something” https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/15/lie-see-something-say-something/	Jun 21 07:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.washingtontimes.com \| The lie of 'See something, say something' - Washington Times		Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz	Too extreme?	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	just bad law. if people report anything remotely suspicious, because they are afraid of the consequences of not reporting it, theyre going to waste the time of people who need to realistically triage threats. ultimately you need too many people who can predict the future.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	if you make a law that penalises not reporting something, youre going to get people a. reporting anything suspicious and b. covering up things they might have noticed but werent sure about, because the cost is too high of risking being accused of sitting on it. someone might think this is a good solution, but that someone probably never wrote a good law.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Your second comparison isn’t apt.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	We’re not accusing developers of trying to harm users; by reporting defects, we’re helping the developers, as well as the users. Only if they try to hide defects, can we justly accuse them of trying to cause harm.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	If you knew about a defect in an automobile that made it unsafe, would you report it or not? If not, please present an argument, from moral principles, for not doing so.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	As to your first comparison, a duty to, at least, send for help should be the law of every land, and I wholeheartedly support making it the law. I’d be interested to read your argument, from moral principles, that a bystander should be allowed to watch you die, and not even think about trying to help you.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	I didn’t advocate making distributing defective software a crime. I said it should be a crime to hide defects from users, whether you’re the developer or not.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Did you listen to Dan Geer? In a way, Geer’s proposal is more radical than mine. It proposes that developers not be allowed to hide what their code does from the user, without paying the price should that code cause harm.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Years ago, ingredient lists weren’t required on food or medications. Would you take us back to that miserable state of affairs?	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Also, did you consider that my law would only, realistically, be enforceable against distributors of malware that exploits vulns? Like Cellebrite? Or the user of such malware?	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Also, did you consider that my law would only, realistically, be enforceable against distributors of malware that exploits vulns? Like Cellebrite? Or the user of such malware?	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	no, because im not that optimistic.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Geer’s proposal is more radical than mine. It proposes that developers not be allowed to hide what their code does from the user, without paying the price should that code cause harm.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	i like that better.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	but better than that would be if the world just abandoned non-free software so there was no market for it.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	but better than that would be if the world just abandoned non-free software so there was no market for it.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Agreed, but “im not that optimistic.”	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	fair retort :)	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Of course, even if we insist on seeing the source code, we still have to address this problem.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Go to https://www.google.com/, right click on a blank part of the page, and select “View Page Source” from the menu that pops up. It’s like turning on the light in your kitchen late at night, and finding every surface swarming with cockroaches.	Jun 21 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.google.com \| Google		Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	David - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	Got to go. Am finishing a novel so I can go on to read the new Neal Stephenson novel.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	happy reading.	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	“View Page Source”	Jun 21 07:52
schestowitz	there are two threats really-- obfuscation and whatever the heck theyre doing to “init” is not the last thing of its kind.	Jun 21 07:53
schestowitz	Free software developers seem to care very little about this, because they have their stripped free software versions of everything open source. So what if we make things less modular, more brittle, more bloated, and more poorly designed? They only use projects with a license allows them to clean up after us, so they’re content no matter what we sabotage.	Jun 21 07:53
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/06/11/monopoly-tactics/ they can do that, as surely as obfuscation. the fsf has yet to recognise this threat.	Jun 21 07:53
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Chapter 10: Moving Forward — Getting the Best Results From Open Source With Your Monopoly \| Techrights		Jun 21 07:53
schestowitz	Thanks for urging us to check google.com source, just reminding me why I stay the hell out of there	Jun 21 07:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15199244#39933dc0724a0137fe390218b72fdf43	Jun 21 07:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After the founder of #bitnami sold the company to one #gpl violator and #freesw enemy his joins another, #microsoft Bitnami gone rogue, likely defunct now. Working against FOSS. https://www.businessinsider.com/github-erica-brescia-coo-bitnami-2019-6		Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 07:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.businessinsider.com \| GitHub hires Bitnami co-founder Erica Brescia as its first COO - Business Insider		Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	VWware ??? What do they want with Bitnami ???	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	Grey money?	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	Alessandro Ebersol - 4 days ago	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	Oh, fuck, it’s always like this: a startup comes and makes something cool, a corporation comes after, buy it and end the coolness.	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	they make sure FOSS never gains 'too much'	Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15190373#c8c50c20713a0137ec2e7a163ef10931	Jun 21 07:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After Losing a Similar Case, #BLM Sued Again Over #Climate Impacts of #Oil and #Gas Leases https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/06/14/trump-blm-lawsuit-climate-impacts-oil-gas-leases-new-mexico		Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 07:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.desmogblog.com \| After Losing a Similar Case, BLM Sued Again Over Climate Impacts of Oil and Gas Leases \| DeSmogBlog		Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	Welcome to the Free World. Isn’t it great that our government is free to break its own laws?	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 6 days ago	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	only because not enough people hold it accountable.	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	tomgrz	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	tomgrz - 5 days ago	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	Get me my whip, grandma!	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15192075#d2b81710717a013725200cc47a07853c	Jun 21 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anyone aware of why @glynmoody has been quiet for nearly a week? Atypical and unusual for him; he usually says something if away on holiday (not that I advise that; it's helpful to thieves and crackers).		Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	when im quiet im usually depressed or catching up on other responsibilities (including sleep)	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	ive admired moody for years and known his work for about as long as ive known yours-- close to a decade. i wish him the best.	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 6 days ago	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	his twitter only goes to the 9th.	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	dated june 11 https://www.experfy.com/blog/what-does-ethical-ai-mean-for-open-source	Jun 21 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.experfy.com \| Analytics Consulting \| Big Data Consulting \| AI Consulting		Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 6 days ago	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	his twitter only goes to the 9th.	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	dated june 11 https://www.experfy.com/blog/what-does-ethical-ai-mean-for-open-source	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	if this is not the second instance of this post, then you will be hearing less from me when thepirate.party shuts down because diaspora is still (and forever) broken.	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	Turns out he was on holiday	Jun 21 08:01
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15187154#b1859ae07103013725600cc47a07853c	Jun 21 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can Society Survive Without Empathy? https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/14/can-society-survive-without-empathy/ "17 percent of American adults can’t afford to pay all their monthly bills"		Jun 21 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.counterpunch.org \| Can Society Survive Without Empathy?		Jun 21 08:02
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:02
schestowitz	civilisation is already dying. even if climatechange suddenly reversed, people are too sure theyre right about the best way to do things to allow other people to live.	Jun 21 08:02
schestowitz	we cheer on tyranny for the people, by the people, for the people. of course there would be less of it if people disconnected their televisions from cable channels and antennas. that says a lot.	Jun 21 08:02
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213865#49e7c67073a301373d9c2986f53bbfc6	Jun 21 08:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 10 PRINT Memorial in New Hampshire marks the birthplace of BASIC https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/06/17/plaque_for_basic_birthplace_new_hampshire/ #programming #history		Jun 21 08:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk \| 10 PRINT Memorial in New Hampshire marks the birthplace of BASIC • The Register		Jun 21 08:03
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	finally! i went to dartmouth university on a pilgrimage, i was sad that i didnt find anything like this.	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	basic was my first language (also torvalds, for people who still think that learning basic ruins your skills forever.)	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	“That location might seem a little odd but state highway markers have to be on state highways and all the roads around Dartmouth College are owned by Hanover or the college itself, so this was about as close as we could get to the school.”	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	what a shame that dartmouth isnt proud of this incredible contribution to computer science. it let far more people learn programming much earlier-- and people still treat coding in basic like some guilty pleasure rather than the educational marvel it is.	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	my first was pascal	Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15204981#d563804072d90137ec347a163ef10931	Jun 21 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Actually, it's #Exim -- not #Linux -- under "attack" and it's only effective if one neglected to patch the bug for over a week https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2019/06/16/week-in-review-devsecops-readiness-human-bias-in-cybersecurity-linux-servers-under-attack/		Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.helpnetsecurity.com \| Week in review: DevSecOps readiness, human bias in cybersecurity, Linux servers under attack - Help Net Security		Jun 21 08:04
schestowitz	Linux servers under attack? All servers are always under attack.	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	Attilax - 4 days ago	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	linux servers = 95% of servers anyway…	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	tomgrz - 4 days ago	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	Well, that’s the good news!	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	Looking at the logs, all my servers are under attack every minute or hour	Jun 21 08:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213969#d5445e9073b30137ec1a7a163ef10931	Jun 21 08:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't make any mistakes about it. The US very much wants #chelseamanning to commit suicide. For nearly a decade. The fines are intended to a burden on the family. Collective extortion. Same thing that killed Aaron Swartz.		Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15213969#d5445e9073b30137ec1a7a163ef10931	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	Can they levy these fines on her family?	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	freemedia@thepirate.party - 3 days ago	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	@tomgrz they know her family will try to help.	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz		Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	tomgrz - 3 days ago	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	They would be foolish to do so. They must retain their resources - they might need them. ;-(	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 08:06
schestowitz	Welcome to collective punishment	Jun 21 08:07
schestowitz	Next phase: waterboarding	Jun 21 08:07
schestowitz	<h5><a href="https://blog.qt.io/blog/2019/06/20/qt-creator-4-10-beta-released/">Qt Creator 4.10 Beta released</a></h5>	Jun 21 08:12
schestowitz	<blockquote>	Jun 21 08:12
schestowitz	<p>The opensource version is available on the Qt download page under “Pre-releases”, and you find commercially licensed packages on the Qt Account Portal. Qt Creator 4.10 Beta is also available under Preview > Qt Creator 4.10.0-beta1 in the online installer. Please post issues in our bug tracker. You can also find us on IRC on #qt-creator on chat.freenode.net, and on the Qt Creator mailing list. </p></blockquote></li>	Jun 21 08:12
schestowitz	</ul></li>	Jun 21 08:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.qt.io \| Qt 3 and 4 licensed under GPLv3 - Qt Blog		Jun 21 08:12
schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> ITWire is currently blocked by Cloudflare.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	I noticed a while ago.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	The site used to become available for 2 minutes every time I linked to it.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	They used to be a big site, now they run a weak server with low capacity.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> Here are the links in the	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> new format, trying to phase in the new sources.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	Very good! Wish we had done that earlier. I spent a lot of time researching this morning real-time two-person editing, but I gave up because it's a resource hog.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	One thing we can do is split topics/feeds to avoid reduce collisions (conflict/dupe).	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> How much should crap like what's at this Wired link be included?	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> https://www.wired.com/story/slack-proves-upstarts-can-thrive-office-software/	Jun 21 08:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.wired.com \| Investors Love Slack—for Now \| WIRED		Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	Conde Nast, employer of the kid fucker, Microsoft Peter. They also own Reddit.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> I remember the old days before Wired remodeled itself to become	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> mainstream. The whole magazine is crap now.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	Under different ownership at the time. Wired rarely covers Linux/FOSS, so I won't care if it dies.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> I'll go through the "new" RSS feeds now and they'll be with tomorrow's	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> batch, I hope.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	I can now save a lot of time every day with your script. Hours per month.	Jun 21 08:18
schestowitz	> I'll go through the "new" RSS feeds now and they'll be with tomorrow's	Jun 21 08:19
schestowitz	> batch, I hope.	Jun 21 08:19
schestowitz	Got a major EPO leak from management yesterday. Will publish shortly, will have a big effect...	Jun 21 08:19
schestowitz	btw, you need to have rss feeds for articles, not just forums athttps://www.linux.org/forums/-/index.rss - I'd link to your articles from tuxmachines if I could fetch these over rss	Jun 21 08:52
schestowitz	> I'll look around too. A web-based one would probably not be either	Jun 21 09:05
schestowitz	> practical nor enjoyable to use. Hopefully something real-time would be	Jun 21 09:05
schestowitz	> available, Git and SVN have too much latency.	Jun 21 09:05
schestowitz	I thought about that, but quickly foresaw lots of downsides.	Jun 21 09:05
schestowitz	My laptops are all feeble with 2gb of ram, so I prefer just using kate.	Jun 21 09:05
schestowitz	Let's see how it goes. Any feed you like in particular (for me to stay out of)?	Jun 21 09:05
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/tzoannop/status/1141981796621570048	Jun 21 09:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tzoannop: @gibsonguitar @Epiphone @KramerGuitarsUS @prsguitars @glynmoody @darianknight @asteris cc @GuitarPlayerNow… https://t.co/Rt59hUeZY9		Jun 21 09:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tzoannop: @gibsonguitar @Epiphone @KramerGuitarsUS @prsguitars @glynmoody @darianknight @asteris cc @GuitarPlayerNow… https://t.co/Rt59hUeZY9		Jun 21 09:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gratifymenow/status/1141983139272826880	Jun 21 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gratifymenow: @schestowitz Trump is carrying out Putin’s plan to dominate Europe.		Jun 21 09:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/snbbloopers/status/1141983658473066496	Jun 21 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@snbbloopers: @tzoannop @gibsonguitar @Epiphone @KramerGuitarsUS @prsguitars @glynmoody @darianknight @asteris @GuitarPlayerNow… https://t.co/MOedWaDcUZ		Jun 21 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@snbbloopers: @tzoannop @gibsonguitar @Epiphone @KramerGuitarsUS @prsguitars @glynmoody @darianknight @asteris @GuitarPlayerNow… https://t.co/MOedWaDcUZ		Jun 21 09:27
schestowitz	"I sold my Gibson about 35 years ago, and I'm not going to buy one again. When a company goes down the drain, it starts unfair law wars instead of trading."	Jun 21 09:27
schestowitz	<li>	Jun 21 09:34
schestowitz	<h5><a href="http://dailyposttimes.com/2019/06/20/global-numerical-analysis-software-market-2019-analytica-matlab-gnu-octave-plotly-flexpro-julia-scilab-lapack-scalapack-nag-library-freemat-calerga/">Global Numerical Analysis Software Market 2019 – Analytica, Matlab, GNU Octave, Plotly, FlexPro, Julia, Scilab, LAPACK, ScaLAPACK, NAG Library, FreeMat, Calerga</a></h5>	Jun 21 09:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dailyposttimes.com \| Global Fruit & Vegetables Market 2019:2025, By Top Players – Dole Food Company, Chiquita Brands International, C.H. Robinson Worldwide, Fresh Del Monte Produce – Daily Post Times		Jun 21 09:34
schestowitz	<blockquote>	Jun 21 09:34
schestowitz	<p>In addition, the report provides significant information about the key Numerical Analysis Software market contenders Analytica, Matlab, GNU Octave, Plotly, FlexPro, Julia, Scilab, LAPACK, ScaLAPACK, NAG Library, FreeMat, Calerga, LabVIEW, , at the global and regional level, which are competing with each other, as well as emerging players in terms of sales of production, sales, revenues, and after-sales services. </p></	Jun 21 09:34
schestowitz	blockquote></li>	Jun 21 09:34
schestowitz	</ul></li>	Jun 21 09:34
schestowitz	<li>	Jun 21 11:05
schestowitz	<h5><a href="https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2019/06/20/saudi-arms-sale-verdict-a-stunning-rebuke-for-the-government,-says-green-co-leader/">Saudi arms sale verdict a 'stunning rebuke' for the government, says Green co-leader</a></h5>	Jun 21 11:05
schestowitz	<blockquote>	Jun 21 11:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.greenparty.org.uk \| News		Jun 21 11:05
schestowitz	<p>"British arms sold to Saudi Arabia are implicated directly in rights abuses. The sales are also making the world a less stable and secure place, threatening all of our futures."</p></blockquote></li>	Jun 21 11:05
schestowitz	Weirdest tuxmachines crash yet	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	I posted security leftovers	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	It saved, it registered the page	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	Than the site crashed	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	It took me a few minutes to notice	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	Reboots from the hv	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	Saw myself errors in the log	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	Meanwhile also noticed that "security leftovers" did not even appear	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	Not a good sign	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	It didn't seem cache related	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	l	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	Enter password:	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.access Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	service httpd start	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.accesslog	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	warning : Number of rows changed from 1317027 to 1305755	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	status : OK	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.actions Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.actions_aid Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.actions_old_contrib Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_clicks Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_external Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
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schestowitz	drupal.ad_hosts Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_html Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_image Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_image_format Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_notify Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_owners Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_permissions Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_statistics Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ad_text Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:13
schestowitz	drupal.ads Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.adsense_clicks Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.aggregator_category Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.aggregator_category_feed Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.aggregator_category_item Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.aggregator_feed OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.aggregator_item OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.aggregator_node Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.authmap Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.banner Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.banner_term Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.batch Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.blocks Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.blocks_roles Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.book Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.bookmarks Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.boxes Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_block OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_content Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_filter	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	warning : Number of rows changed from 46254 to 46248	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	status : OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_form OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_menu OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_mollom Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_page Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_tax_image Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_update OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_views Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.cache_views_data Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.client Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.client_system Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.comments OK	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.contact Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.content_group Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.content_group_fields Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.content_node_field Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.content_node_field_instance Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.copyright_node Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz	drupal.copyright_user Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.copyrights Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.ctools_css_cache Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.ctools_object_cache Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.excerpt Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.files Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.filter_formats Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.filters Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.flood OK	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.form_fields Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.forms Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.forum Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.gsitemap Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.history OK	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.im Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.inactive_users Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.languages Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.lm_paypal_donations Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.lm_paypal_ipns Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.locales_meta Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.locales_source Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.locales_target Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.mail_edit Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.mail_edit_d5 Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.mail_edit_registry Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.menu_custom Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.menu_links Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.menu_router Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.moderation_filters Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.moderation_roles Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.moderation_votes Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.mollom Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.mollom_form Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.node	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	warning : Number of rows changed from 120750 to 120751	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	status : OK	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.node_access Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.node_comment_statistics	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	warning : Number of rows changed from 120750 to 120751	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	status : OK	Jun 21 11:15
schestowitz	drupal.node_counter OK	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.node_revisions	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775036	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775080	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775300	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775576	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321776236	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321776412	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321776668	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321777500	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321777516	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	status : OK	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.node_spambot OK	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.node_type Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.nodeteaser Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.nodewords Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.oauth_consumer Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.oauth_nonce Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.oauth_token Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.old_revisions Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.paging_xmlsitemap Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.paypal_email Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.paypal_log Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.paypal_payer Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.paypal_queue Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.permission Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.pm_block_user Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.pm_index Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.pm_message Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.pm_tags Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.pm_tags_index Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.poll Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.poll_choices Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.poll_votes Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.print_mail_node_conf Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.print_mail_page_counter Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.print_node_conf Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.print_page_counter OK	Jun 21 11:16
schestowitz	drupal.print_pdf_node_conf Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.print_pdf_page_counter OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.profile_fields Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.profile_values Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.quicktabs Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.relativity Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.relativity_query Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.role Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.scheduler Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.search_dataset OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.search_index OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.search_node_links Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.search_total OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.semaphore OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.sequences Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.sessions OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.smileys Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.spam_custom Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.spam_log Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.spam_reported Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.spam_tokens Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.spam_tracker Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.subscriptions Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.subscriptions_last_sent OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.subscriptions_queue OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.subscriptions_user Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.survey Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.survey_fields Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.survey_responses Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.system Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.term_data Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.term_hierarchy Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.term_image Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.term_node OK	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.term_relation Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.term_synonym Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.textlinkads_links Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.textlinkads_node Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.trigger_assignments Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.troll_blacklist Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:17
schestowitz	drupal.troll_ip_ban Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.troll_ip_track Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.troll_whitelist Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.twitter Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.twitter_account Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.upload Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.url_alias Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.user_maintenance_ids Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.users OK	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.users_roles Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.variable OK	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.views_display Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.views_object_cache Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.views_view Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.vocabulary Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.vocabulary_node_types Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.watchdog Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.xmlsitemap Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.xmlsitemap_node Table is already up to date	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	[root@tuxmachines log]# service httpd start	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	Starting httpd: httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using tuxmachines.org for ServerName	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	[ OK ]	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	The key part is in the middle, under	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.node	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	warning : Number of rows changed from 120750 to 120751	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	status : OK	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	and	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.node_revisions	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	seems like data corruption/loss	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	So far all that I wrote is there, except security leftover, which is listed but leads to invalid node	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	So I already feel not so confident with this DB state, trying a remote backup to assess file size	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	1232474873 Jun 21 02:47 tuxmachines-drupal2019-06-21-02.sql	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	seems OK	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz		Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	drupal.node_revisions	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775036	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775080	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775300	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321775576	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321776236	Jun 21 11:18
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321776412	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321776668	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321777500	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	info : Found block that points outside data file at 321777516	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	Not sure if that may mean that some nodes I'm not seeing (old ones) are affected too.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	I tried a few at random and it seems OK	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	Readding security leftovers	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	Thought: maybe the crash happened at the rare moment of node being added (a few dozen times a day), hence there was this side effect.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	"drupal.node	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	warning : Number of rows changed from 120750 to 120751"	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	That's just an increase of one, so maybe only this one node was affected.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	I still don't know what caused the crash, gotta run, have not investigated.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	When I then redded it said	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	"Story Security Leftovers has been created.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	The post could not be saved."	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	This node got assigned the VERY SAME ID as the one before the crash (it was the next one vacant I guess), so maybe it confuses Drupal a bit	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	It still showed up OK afterwards.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	So I added programming	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	No error like "The post could not be saved."	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	So I think we're back to normal	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	These notes might help remind me what to do if it occurs in the future.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	I still don't know why the VM crashed. I need to go to the gym asap.	Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz	>> Let me check collaborative editors. Have not checked these for nearly a	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	>> decade...	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	> As far as concurrent editing goes, if TR had Emacs we could use it. The	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	> first person to open a file would do 'M-x server-start' The second	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	> person would open the file with 'emacsclient -c'. How those work or	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	> what they do, I don't know. But it works and each person gets a cursor,	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	> and either can save the file at any time.	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	I think splitting feeds and merging at the end would work best	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	the way you group/cluster links now is already very helpful.	Jun 21 11:23
schestowitz	>>> I'll look around too. A web-based one would probably not be either	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>>> practical nor enjoyable to use. Hopefully something real-time would be	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>>> available, Git and SVN have too much latency.	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>> I thought about that, but quickly foresaw lots of downsides.	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>>	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>> My laptops are all feeble with 2gb of ram, so I prefer just using kate.	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>>	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>> Let's see how it goes. Any feed you like in particular (for me to stay	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	>> out of)?	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	> Not really, it's mostly the same to me as to which feeds I have. So I	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	> defer to your priorities.	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	If you thrash around "Nat Sec" you will see things I never have time for anymore (except on holidays). CC, Nature and tech (Eff+techdirt) anything you want? I need to read "Linux" stuff very fast to make tuxmachines competitive.	Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz	> One downside there is that the person who first opens the file has to	Jun 21 11:26
schestowitz	> keep their Emacs session open for the others. When it gets closed, the	Jun 21 11:26
schestowitz	> others get closed, too.	Jun 21 11:26
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 11:26
schestowitz	> So I would ask, while Emacs-noX is getting installed, could tmux get	Jun 21 11:26
schestowitz	> added, too? That would prevent the master session from going down if	Jun 21 11:27
schestowitz	> the SSH connection is lost.	Jun 21 11:27
schestowitz	I would struggle doing news picks with emacs after 10+ years doing that with kate. Lots of downsides to it. Better to partition by topics, I think.	Jun 21 11:27
schestowitz	Also, before merging I like to put in social control media all the key links. Sometimes I catch errors in the markup in the process and correct these.	Jun 21 11:27
schestowitz	>> I never touch Nat Sec anymore (no time).	Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz	>>	Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz	> Ok. I can follow Nature and Nat sec stuff.	Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz	Rianne also reads the Nature, but she doesn't do links etc. I got her interested in green themes.	Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz	OK, so for now focus on Nature and Nat	Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz	This weekend I will catch up only with "Tech", "Linux", "CC" and "Patents"	Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz	>>>> I never touch Nat Sec anymore (no time).	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>>>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>> Ok. I can follow Nature and Nat sec stuff.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> Rianne also reads the Nature, but she doesn't do links etc. I got her	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> interested in green themes.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> Cool. Somewhere around here I have a theta pin from, if I recall	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> correctly, the original Earth Day.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> OK, so for now focus on Nature and Nat	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> This weekend I will catch up only with "Tech", "Linux", "CC" and "Patents"	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> Ok. We can fine tune it over the next week.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> I'll also look around for a Kate plug-in to allow collaborative editing.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> I don't think there is one but I'll check anyway.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>>> I never touch Nat Sec anymore (no time).	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>>>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>> Ok. I can follow Nature and Nat sec stuff.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> Rianne also reads the Nature, but she doesn't do links etc. I got her	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> interested in green themes.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> Cool. Somewhere around here I have a theta pin from, if I recall	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> correctly, the original Earth Day.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> OK, so for now focus on Nature and Nat	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>> This weekend I will catch up only with "Tech", "Linux", "CC" and "Patents"	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> Ok. We can fine tune it over the next week.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> I'll also look around for a Kate plug-in to allow collaborative editing.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	> I don't think there is one but I'll check anyway.	Jun 21 13:41
schestowitz	URGENT!	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	Technical details aside (no time for it now), I've just run home from town having seen from a store tux machines wasn't working	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	seems like a DB issue	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	I tried phoning you to warn you of downtime, no answer	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	Please do not restart anything, I restore from backup IMMEDIATELY, will add the differences manually.	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	I already lack confidence in this DB state since the crash	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	More later..	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	PS - SSH will be up, I'm taking httpd down.	Jun 21 13:44
schestowitz	> Ok. Since the One True Editor is out for you, I got word back from Sven	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	> Brauch on the kwrite-devel mailing list. He made a plug-in by the name	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	> of kte-collaborative a few years back as a GSOC project, based on	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	> libinfinity, which is also used by Gobby. It was not ported to Kate 5	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	> and I'm not finding a link to it anywhere obvious. I don't have the	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	> skill to port it or modify it.	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	thanks for chasing this.	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	i'll try to salvage tuxmachines asap.	Jun 21 13:45
schestowitz	> Strange. Those are the right numbers and neither phone has rung today.	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> However, dialing just now from the second number to the first, I got an	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> out-of-service error. And dialing from the first number to another	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> mobile does not get through either. :( After powercycling the first	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> phone, it can make and receive calls. However, that leaves the question	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> of why the second phone did not work. I hope we are not becoming like	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> Sweden or Panama where nothing works ever.	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	WOW!	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	I must say I didn't expect this from Finland.	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	Yes, I got the same from both lines (same as you).	Jun 21 14:17
schestowitz	> Ok. But I've received no calls at +xxxxxx. We've been with	Jun 21 14:26
schestowitz	> guests just now but the call log shows nothing incoming from today.	Jun 21 14:26
schestowitz	> My parents used to have regular problems getting through before we	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	> switched to SIP. I think that one possibility was that there were	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	> insufficient staff to monitor the call live, but of course there's no	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	> proof of that just what we were reading about international calls back	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	> then.	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	A contingency other than email might help. It takes me ~5 minutes to start thunderbird (old issue), so I only do this about once a day with most other software shut (lowering RAM use).	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	We need to explore better collab tools. We spend a huge amount of time every week on these things, so spending some time improving the tools is always good investment of time.	Jun 21 14:30
schestowitz	I'm off work till Monday (I worked 1-9am the past 3 nights), so I shall catch up with links.	Jun 21 14:31
schestowitz	would a matrix-type channel for the site be worth setting up? we already have IRC, which Slack copies; I think Matrix-based stuff sort of copies both. Failing that, I can try phone in the future and hope for better luck.	Jun 21 14:31
schestowitz	>>> My parents used to have regular problems getting through before we	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>>> switched to SIP. I think that one possibility was that there were	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>>> insufficient staff to monitor the call live, but of course there's no	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>>> proof of that just what we were reading about international calls back	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>>> then.	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>> A contingency other than email might help. It takes me ~5 minutes to	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>> start thunderbird (old issue), so I only do this about once a day with	Jun 21 14:44
schestowitz	>> most other software shut (lowering RAM use).	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> I tend to have SIP client(s) logged in most of the time and during the	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> day the ringing is routed to loudspeakers. So that's a possibility.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> sip://@sip2sip.info	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> We need to explore better collab tools. We spend a huge amount of time	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> every week on these things, so spending some time improving the tools is	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> always good investment of time.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> Agreed.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> I'm off work till Monday (I worked 1-9am the past 3 nights), so I shall	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> catch up with links.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> We're between guests now and it will be calmer tomorrow, for the most	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> part, despite being a major holiday.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> would a matrix-type channel for the site be worth setting up? we already	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> have IRC, which Slack copies; I think Matrix-based stuff sort of copies	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	>> both. Failing that, I can try phone in the future and hope for better luck.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	> It might be worth looking at. Do you have any links to recommend on that?	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	We're planning to implement this at work soon. My colleague Rajiv has been assigned this task. I have never installed it myself; didn't even use it!	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	Ages ago I tried installed leaking tools (the one Intercept uses) and Diaspora on the server. I tried some other things, but it was experimental. We're very IRC centric still.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	'brainfart': we need better tools for fusing together our two sets of links; I do it manually, maybe there's some better way. But centralising it on some server and submitting 'into' it seems ideal. I also sort my links in a special way to know what I already posted into tuxmachines and what to post into there later as a cluster of related items.	Jun 21 14:45
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 15:05
schestowitz	btw, you need to have rss feeds for articles, not just forums athttps://www.linux.org/forums/-/index.rss - I'd link to your articles from tuxmachines if I could fetch these over rss	Jun 21 15:05
schestowitz		Jun 21 15:05
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schestowitz	Linux.org	Jun 21 15:05
schestowitz	Ah, thanks for reminding me - I didn't update that in the template when I updated the site a few weeks back.. here's the articles one: https://www.linux.org/articles/index.rss …	Jun 21 15:05
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schestowitz	Delete this message sent from Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 21 15:05
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/josenoguerauab/status/1141998830352773120	Jun 21 19:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@josenoguerauab: Stunning https://t.co/Z2qKMhl0qJ		Jun 21 19:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: This map shows the most commonly spoken #language in every US state, excluding English and Spanish https://t.co/eZfvdfd8IQ		Jun 21 19:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DominaFurore/status/1142019884408299526	Jun 21 19:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DominaFurore: @Duchesse001 https://t.co/26mdZSnmRC		Jun 21 19:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Only a few reporters could be bothered to note that at no point did the researchers directly, actually link the "h… https://t.co/SpOfM2gWuB		Jun 21 19:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/e_veritas_unum/status/1142030855482667008	Jun 21 19:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@e_veritas_unum: @schestowitz @Michaelkman1 I'm watching the live feeds. The crowds ARE that big. Millions are STILL in the streets.… https://t.co/WCQ2R4o0jU		Jun 21 19:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@e_veritas_unum: @schestowitz @Michaelkman1 I'm watching the live feeds. The crowds ARE that big. Millions are STILL in the streets.… https://t.co/WCQ2R4o0jU		Jun 21 19:28
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 19:28
schestowitz	I'm watching the live feeds. The crowds ARE that big. Millions are STILL in the streets.	Jun 21 19:28
schestowitz	#Shame on .@CNN #FakeNews	Jun 21 19:28
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 19:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/porocora/status/1142053491248128000	Jun 21 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@porocora: tiefling not real? :( https://t.co/380Sf5vXde		Jun 21 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Only a few reporters could be bothered to note that at no point did the researchers directly, actually link the "h… https://t.co/SpOfM2gWuB		Jun 21 19:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mamma_tanya/status/1142074926058344449	Jun 21 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mamma_tanya: A small study, with no actual connection to cellphone use, other than age. At best, this is a somewhat plausible, b… https://t.co/X9sKPyeyRr		Jun 21 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mamma_tanya: A small study, with no actual connection to cellphone use, other than age. At best, this is a somewhat plausible, b… https://t.co/X9sKPyeyRr		Jun 21 19:39
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 19:39
schestowitz	More tanya Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)	Jun 21 19:39
schestowitz	A small study, with no actual connection to cellphone use, other than age. At best, this is a somewhat plausible, but weak hypothesis. As a non scientist, I could say that the “horns” were more likely a result of something in the local water supply & be correct	Jun 21 19:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/filmguy93/status/1142084451213746176	Jun 21 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@filmguy93: @EMHilts what a whirlwind of info https://t.co/pZhIKXpaCK		Jun 21 19:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1142148296380735490	Jun 21 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Might be a good idea to start calling it the "winduhs Foundation".		Jun 21 20:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Roseann_Bennett/status/1142152081517756421	Jun 21 21:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Roseann_Bennett: @cynchazen Posted... https://t.co/HeoUo4O3Rm		Jun 21 21:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Only a few reporters could be bothered to note that at no point did the researchers directly, actually link the "h… https://t.co/SpOfM2gWuB		Jun 21 21:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- (Re-tweeted by cynchazen)		Jun 21 21:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mmstick/status/1142156285044879365	Jun 21 21:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mmstick: @schestowitz May be useful to demonstrate how to refresh an existing install with the recovery partition using the "Refresh OS" option, too.		Jun 21 21:17
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/brian12979031/status/1142161985854984193	Jun 21 21:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@brian12979031: @xkcdComic @linuxtoday posted a link today that immediately made me think of this: https://t.co/51YflQ4KQx I mean… https://t.co/r8RjzKs2rL		Jun 21 21:25
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft Attempting to Destroy the Careers of Its Critics, Including Free Software Proponents \| Techrights		Jun 21 21:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@brian12979031: @xkcdComic @linuxtoday posted a link today that immediately made me think of this: https://t.co/51YflQ4KQx I mean… https://t.co/r8RjzKs2rL		Jun 21 21:25
schestowitz	@linuxtoday posted a link today that immediately made me think of this: http://techrights.org/2019/06/20/microsoft-bullying/ …	Jun 21 21:25
schestowitz	I mean it's not like they can go around announcing which are backdoors and which are just bugs..	Jun 21 21:25
schestowitz	"	Jun 21 21:25
schestowitz	> it occurs to me that the a.s. brigade and phk are two things im not familar with. ill try to find out what they are, i will also send this email.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	> as for writing articles, i think ted would be interested. but it would do no good without some little aside about his change of heart. ted could set an example for other people entrenched in the non-free/surveillance industry, but not without a note of explanation.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	> not to be the central theme though. he would be mostly an example by the good things he does, not by promises to change.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	> it could be useful to have an insider come to our side, even a fictional one. im still not certain what exactly changed his mind though. it could be a few things, i wonder what the key gamechanger was.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	> one thing is certain though-- ted is willing to say things that im less likely to. ive thought about what i can contribute, and is started thinking about ideas. then i started thinking about a handle for sharing them.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	> then i thought: "ted!" the buddha started as a prince, but he walked away from the palace and into the world of suffering, which awakened him. i find it inspiring that even a conniving sellout like macreilly could have a change of heart, and realise that users matter and rights matter.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	> it takes all kinds.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	I have seen and highlighted the response from phk	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	I see him as a target of malice	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	I have not seen what the accusers say	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	If you can research this, it's definitely something techights can cover, preferably as a guest post as I don't want to become the next victim of this brigade.	Jun 22 08:24
schestowitz	>>> Maybe an extra one or two during and at the end of the working day?	Jun 22 08:37
schestowitz	>> Need to make more disk space for it. The hv has plenty, to spare	Jun 22 08:37
schestowitz	>> (unused), the vm is tight on space. We have spare hv capacity we can use	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	>> for other things at zero cost.	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> Ok. Then if there is space on HV but not TM, one possibility would be a	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> script with a locked down SSH key based login from HV to TM to fetch the	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> dumps. Then leave only a smaller cache of dumps on TM itself. Or,	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> since it's the same hardware and if there is networking problems those	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> mean trouble, it is possible to make the dumps over SSH and save them	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> directly to HV from TM. SSH connections are 8-bit clean and so can pipe	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> binary data either direction.	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> e.g. from HV:	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> ssh -i somekey_rsa \	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> bn@tm 'nice mysqldump --user=root --password=foobar drupal' \	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> \| gzip -c > tmdatabase-$(date +"%F").dump.gz	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> Untested, but at least close. Or the TM side could be wrapped in a	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> script, then the public key on TM in authorized_keys then would be	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> prepended with the exact script name using 'command="..."' See the	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> manual page for sshd in the section "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT"	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> I wouldn't have the nerve to try to restore from backup yet myself.	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	> Maybe we should schedule some kind of drill later in the summer.	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	I've never (yet) lost work due to data loss (could recover what was missing), EXCEPT 7 years ago when a dumb admin who only knows Windows had our computation server pwned and then the admin just wiped it all and restored from old backup (without telling us!!!!!!!). I lost code changed that I had made. Never again with this 'cloud' BS; I keep my data where I control it and back it up.	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	Anyhoo... I'm not enquiring for an article about phk	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	I'm flagging your email message as "TODO"	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	We already have a one-liner 'script' on tuxmachines for backing the DB up on Techrights (there's another for backing up all files on the Techrights VM, but these files very rarely change; almost all site changes are in the DB).	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	So, the missing piece is what I hate most because I suck at it: setting up passwordless ssh login between the two VMs. Can you give that I go? Do you think one local and one 'remote' (same hv, different vm) backup a day is enough?	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	I lost confidence in tuxmachines; today, each time I post I hope it stays in tact and sometimes I checked from a logged off browser if all works OK (yesterday the issue was only visible to visitors not authenticated).	Jun 22 08:38
schestowitz	>> 'brainfart': we need better tools for fusing together our two sets	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	>> of links; I do it manually, maybe there's some better way. But	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	>> centralising it on some server and submitting 'into' it seems ideal.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	> If the template were machine generated, it would be much easier to write	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	> a merging program.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	>> I also sort my links in a special way to know what I already posted	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	>> into tuxmachines and what to post into there later as a cluster of	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	>> related items.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	> I'm not sure what the criteria are for that.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	It only affects the first and second (Linux and FOSS) sections. Typically link at bottom of list (or itemised group) means it's not yet in tuxmachines, e.g. right now:	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	___________________________-QUOTE___	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	<h3>GNOME Desktop/GTK</h3><ul>	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-asia-summit-2019-announced-for-gnome-3-34-gresik-desktop-in-indonesia-526487.shtml">GNOME Asia Summit 2019 Announced for GNOME 3.36 "Gresik" Desktop in Indonesia</a></h5>	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	<blockquote>Every year, the GNOME developers and contributors gather together for the GUADEC (GNOME Users And Developers European Conference) and GNOME Asia Summit events to plan the next major release of their beloved, open-source desktop environment for Linux-based operating systems.	Jun 22 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Asia Summit 2019 Announced for GNOME 3.36 "Gresik" Desktop in Indonesia		Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	While the GUADEC 2019 conference will kick off this summer between August 23rd and 28th, in Thessaloniki, Greece, for the upcoming GNOME 3.34 "Thessaloniki" desktop environment, the GNOME Asia Summit 2019 event will take place between October 11th and 13th, 2019, in Gresik, Indonesia.</blockquote></li>	Jun 22 08:47
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schestowitz	<blockquote></blockquote></li>	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2019/06/21/rebasing-downstream-translations/">Will Thompson: Rebasing downstream translations</a></h5>	Jun 22 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2019/06/21/rebasing-downstream-translations/">Will )		Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	<blockquote>At Endless, we maintain downstream translations for an number of GNOME projects, such as gnome-software, gnome-control-center and gnome-initial-setup.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	[...]	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	Whenever we update to a new version of GNOME, we have to reconcile our downstream translations with the changes from upstream. We want to preserve our intentional downstream changes, and keep our translations for strings that don’t exist upstream; but we also want to pull in translations for new upstream strings, as well as improved translations for existing strings. Earlier this year, the translation-rebase baton was passed to me. My	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	predecessor would manually reapply our downstream changes for a set of officially-supported languages, but unlike him, I can pretty much only speak English, so I needed something a bit more mechanical.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	I spoke to various people from other distros about this problem.1 A common piece of advice was to not maintain downstream translation changes: appealing, but not really an option at the moment. I also heard that Ubuntu follows a straightforward rule: once the translation for a string has been changed downstream, all future upstream changes to the translation for that string are ignored. The assumption is that all downstream changes to a	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	translation must have been made for a reason, and should be preserved. This is essentially a superset of what we’ve done manually in the past.	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	I wrote a little tool to implement this logic, pomerge. Its “rebase” mode takes the last common upstream ancestor, the last downstream commit, and a working copy with the newest downstream code. For each locale, for each string in the translation in the working copy, it compares the old upstream and downstream translations – if they differ, it merges the latter into the working copy. </blockquote></li>	Jun 22 08:47
schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/gnome-3333-released-kernel-security-updates-rhel-and-centos-wine-developers-concerned">GNOME 3.33.3 Released, Kernel Security Updates for RHEL and CentOS, Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu 19.10 Dropping 32-Bit Support, Bzip2 to Get an Update and OpenMandriva Lx 4.0 Now Available</a></h5>	Jun 22 08:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/gnome-3333-released-kernel-security-updates-rhel-and-centos-wine-developers-concerned">GNOME )		Jun 22 08:48
schestowitz	<blockquote>GNOME 3.33.3 was released yesterday. Note that this release is development code and is intended for testing purposes. </blockquote></li>	Jun 22 08:48
schestowitz	___________________________UNQUOTE___	Jun 22 08:48
schestowitz	First link already in tuxmachines, last two -- not yet!	Jun 22 08:48
schestowitz	> particularly not one that i wasnt suggesting a use for, but this was so	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	> priceless. reminds me of xkcd but with better artwork.	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	> a lot of these intellectual comics are actually pretty condescending.	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	> this one just tickled me. like i said, i wouldnt normally waste your	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	> time with something like this. secret hippie posted it on diaspora.	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	I know these comics, this series...	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	The only downside it, their comics are very long and take a long time to read.	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	xkcd is short and sweet, e.g. "sudo make me a sandwich" (even the wife laughs at that one)	Jun 22 08:52
schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Jun 22 09:42
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 09:42
schestowitz	> I'm slowly working the bugs out the work flow at my end.	Jun 22 09:42
schestowitz	Same here. I think I now know when the perl script leave orphaned branches.	Jun 22 09:42
schestowitz	It's when child or children (sibling) of a tree are orphaned as well as the parent branch. It's only then that I need to manually nuke the whole lot. Have not spotted any other bugs yet and it's saving me a lot of time each day.	Jun 22 09:42
schestowitz	<li>	Jun 22 11:38
schestowitz	<h5><a href="https://tails.boum.org/news/version_3.14.1/index.en.html">Tails 3.14.1 is out</a></h5>	Jun 22 11:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://tails.boum.org/news/version_3.14.1/index.en.html">Tails/ )		Jun 22 11:38
schestowitz	<blockquote>	Jun 22 11:38
schestowitz	<p>A security vulnerability was discovered in the sandboxing mechanism of Firefox and Tor Browser. This vulnerability allows a malicious website to bypass some of the confinement built in Firefox, which means possibly spying on the content of other tabs and steal the passwords of other websites. </p>	Jun 22 11:38
schestowitz	<p> After Tor Browser has been compromised, the only reliable solution is to restart Tails. </p>	Jun 22 11:38
schestowitz	<p> Because Tor Browser in Tails is confined using AppArmor, only the data accessible to Tor Browser might be compromised but not the other applications or your other files. For example, a compromised Tor Browser might access your files in the Tor Browser and Persistent/Tor Browser folders but not anywhere else.</p></blockquote></li>	Jun 22 11:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/annbeth1011/status/1142403480650309632	Jun 22 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@annbeth1011: https://t.co/hKsRgLgBCF		Jun 22 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Only a few reporters could be bothered to note that at no point did the researchers directly, actually link the "h… https://t.co/SpOfM2gWuB		Jun 22 16:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EddieMackeral/status/1142449374854832128	Jun 22 17:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EddieMackeral: @schestowitz False flag.		Jun 22 17:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1142458475785723909	Jun 22 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @FOSSForce Maybe this is what I'm remembering. Not much here though. https://t.co/QskU4pT7Ah		Jun 22 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.itprotoday.com \| Wim Coekaerts Returns to Oracle \| IT Pro		Jun 22 17:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1142459822534795265	Jun 22 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz @FOSSForce You might find this interesting: https://t.co/8QcgtoNg8Y		Jun 22 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.businessinsider.com \| Wim Coekaerts, Microsoft open source executive: interview - Business Insider		Jun 22 17:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1142483500139859968	Jun 22 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Oh lol. This happens whenever I post on the Microsoft sub-reddit. Feel free to post my last article on… https://t.co/iCBaPwjFAY		Jun 22 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz Oh lol. This happens whenever I post on the Microsoft sub-reddit. Feel free to post my last article on… https://t.co/iCBaPwjFAY		Jun 22 18:33
schestowitz	"Oh lol. This happens whenever I post on the Microsoft sub-reddit. Feel free to post my last article on hackernoon and watch what happens "	Jun 22 18:33
schestowitz	https://www.google.com/search?client=pub-2479740519054892&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=reddit+site%3Atechrights.org&oq=reddit+site%3Atechrights.org&aqs=heirloom-srp..	Jun 22 18:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.google.com \| reddit site:techrights.org - Google Search		Jun 22 18:33
schestowitz	>>> I'll work something out and show it first. Just to be sure, which	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	>>> machine do you want to accumulate the archives? HV or TR?	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	>> It's easier for me to grab (remote, UK) backup from just one VM/IP, so	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	>> all the bots, scripts, backups etc. are on the TR VM.	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> Ok. I've put a script on TM that has a hard-coded reference in the key.	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> Thus the key cannot be used for anything else, sshd itself locks that	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> down. See authorized_keys on TM for details. TM does not accept	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> Ed25519 keys so it is a 3072-bit RSA key.	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> $ time ssh -i ~/.ssh/fetchdbfromtm_rsa 199.19.78.20 \	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> \| gzip -c > test.dump.gz	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> Connection to 199.19.78.20 closed.	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> real2m7.717s	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> user0m59.163s	Jun 22 19:27
schestowitz	> sys0m36.359s	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> It takes a little over two minutes to run without server-side	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> compression. I would recommend scheduling it to run when traffic is	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> lowest.	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> The script on TR can invoke it from any account but remember where the	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> key resides.	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> date=$(date +"%F")	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> ssh -q -i ~/.ssh/fetchdbfromtm_rsa 199.19.78.20 \	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> \| gzip -c > ~/archives/tm.dump.${date}.gz	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>> Our EPO coverage can NEVER be lost. Nobody else cover it and it's	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	>> something that can change European policy.	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	> Yes, that is one of the reasons the heat is so high on that topic.	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	Excellent! Flagged message.	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	[root@techrights boycottn]# cd archives/	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	[root@techrights archives]# ls -la	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	total 304808	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	drwxrwxr-x. 2 boycottn boycottn 35 Jun 22 03:08 .	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	drwxr-xr-x. 30 boycottn boycottn 16384 Jun 22 03:05 ..	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	-rw-rw-r--. 1 boycottn boycottn 312099103 Jun 22 03:07 tm.dump.2019-06-22.gz	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	Before we cron this, did you make a template for dump rotation/deletion? One issue I had with TM was that if the VM crashed during backup it would leave behind it old backups that killed up the partition. I 'fixed' that by always deleting 2-3 days further than yesterday's backup, just in case	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	Also, to reduce server load, maybe not compress the file? I've long considered doing that with other dumps too, seeing how they make the CPU scream even if nice'd.	Jun 22 19:28
schestowitz	***** old backups that filled up the partition. I 'fixed' that by always deleting 2-3 days further than yesterday's +2 days' backup, just in case	Jun 22 19:29
schestowitz	> my (hopefully interesting) public conversation with the podmin of thepirate.party about hate speech and sexism	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	> https://share.naturalnews.com/posts/154adf00729401373d8a2986f53bbfc6	Jun 22 19:32
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schestowitz	>> you have a better solution for hatespeech then? latestly if discussing does not work (which doesn’t with prep).	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	> the problem with going after hatespeech is that it spirals into absurd amounts of censorship. and things like people painting swastikas to make it look like things are worse than they are (jessie smollet, etc.)	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	> that doesnt meant that nazis arent a problem, though i dont think censorship and deplatforming is the solution, for lots of reasons. these are actually very old arguments, by no means new, based on concepts like net neutrality. a culture that tries to eradicate hate speech will also kneecap the internet.	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:32
schestowitz	> torvalds thinks criticism of microsofts unethical practices is "hate" and a "disease" and tried to paint the entire free software movement as a hate group: http://slated.org/torvalds_hatred_of_microsoft_critics_is_a_disease	Jun 22 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-slated.org \| Torvalds' Hatred of Microsoft Critics is a Disease \| Slated		Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> its not hypothetical that these "solutions" get out of hand.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> so to answer your question, you just keep doing whatever you can-- within reason. but not more than that. because the new style of solutions have already gone too far, and still havent worked. if that doesnt seem like a real answer, then you dont get me.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> the smaller loan for the same work as a men… that’s one of the most-known points i would say.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> loan? i dont know anything about loans. if you meant a salary, that point is HOTLY debated and broken down into facts that challenge the narrative.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> the way they calculate the difference is not intellectually honest.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>> men goes to work, women stays at home for washing and cooking. that still can be the case, but it shouldn’t be by “default”	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> its been the default for most of human existence.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> in my younger years i went to fix someones printer while she was studying at university. foreign student. we fell in love, nearly had kids, she failed her classes (she was already failing when we met) and had to leave the country. i thought of going with her.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> a few years later she came back, finished her degree, now makes a lot more money than i do. i dont think she has kids. but the pay discrepancy they talk about-- the large one-- isnt "for the same work."	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>> , maybe the women also like to do a carrer? depends on the individuals.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> imo someone ought to stay home with the kids. it doesnt have to be the mom. however, people have spent years painting dads as accessory/optional items to make it harder for them to gain custody in divorces. and society has no respect for stay-at-home dads. if you want to fix this, be my guest. id be happy to have that job.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>> and does the men always needs to be the “leader” of a faimily (not your opinion, but i heard them often)	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> theres this idea (very marxist in my opinion) that assumes women dont want men to be the protector/leader of the family. or that if society stopped "training" people into those roles, they would just disappear.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> there are few or no couples that have an even power dynamic. there certainly are couples that have a woman-in-charge dynamic, and those are an option for both men and women who consent to such a relationship. its an option.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> but in the real world, youll find that most men (and most women) wont consent to that. so top-down-societal formulas aside, consent is key here. dont stay in a relationship that doesnt have the dynamic you and they want.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> but most couples PREFER a male-dominant relationship. that doesnt mean you should be in one if you dont want to be-- it means that most people prefer it.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> by "dominant" i dont mean nonsense like "alpha" or "abusive." i mean the power dynamic favours the male. and both people choose and consent to this.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> you cant force them to reject it. i dont deny the factor of societal conditioning but i think it is overplayed. ill explain that.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> dont think im going to lean too heavily on an argument from nature-- if people WANT a relationship with a "reversed" power dynamic, and both people consent to such a relationship, they can (and they do.) but i think without the conditioning, nature would still skew the relationship dynamic (as it does in most species and cultures) towards male-dominant.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> note that the woman i dated in college is from a culture that leans female-dominant. and we got along just fine (famously, like best friends and lovers. i loved her personality, along with everything else. she was brilliant and loads of fun.) such cultures are rare.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> the reason that society conditions people towards those roles is to prepare them. for an analogy, suppose a culture is based in an area with minimal vegetation and an abundance of fauna. that culture will "prepare" its hunters to hunt. it doesnt mean they wouldnt hunt if "society" didnt train them to, it means they would be less prepared for what they are likely to do anyway.	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:33
schestowitz	> by "conditioning" people for male dominant roles, society helps people learn to do what they would probably end up doing anyway. im sure people who insist it is solely caused by conditioning-- that a balanced power dynamic doesnt happen only because society (patriarchy) forces that dynamic onto its cultures, would think thats outrageous.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> personally i think its correlation -> causation.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> however, when it comes to abuse, i agree with the conditioning argument. i do think we are in a very abusive society, but there is an important difference (sometimes) between dominance and abuse. in that one can be considered beneficial (not as the sole option) and the other would be difficult to find so much merit in, at best.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> mgtows behave EXACTLY like victims of narcissistic abuse. they conflate narcissistic women with all women-- they cant tell them apart.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> many feminists (the ones that hate men) behave exactly like victims of narcissistic abuse as well. i think the cause (abuse) that creates angry feminists and frothing mgtows is the same cause.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> note im only talking about the feminists that actually hate men. and if you think theres no such thing, im terribly sorry.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> if everyone understood narcissism and narcissistic abuse-- and what it does to people-- i think it would clear up A LOT of whats going on.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> in the meanwhile i love that comic about the klansman that is given a ticket to travel the world. its making the rounds on diaspora, and im a fan.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> finally, the attitudes of vegans towards fishermen and western feminists that wish to "civilise" men in other countries all over the world, bears too great a similiarity to the attitudes of white colonialists towards "savage" non-western cultures to go unmentioned.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> fishermen are savages, and we should teach them agriculture and modernise their lifestyles. (not.)	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>> than before 50 years, but still it’s not done.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> you dont change a million years of culture in 50 years. industry may on some level-- in the way we behave outwardly, but not the way we think or the reasons we do things.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> culture is a little more pervasive than that, even when you change it dramatically on the surface.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> im not joking or being clever or funny when i talk about colonialism. it has turned in on ourselves. we are still trying to hunt the wily savage-- and he is us.	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	>	Jun 22 19:34
schestowitz	> turning a colonialist attitude in on ourselves, doesnt make it any less condescending or fallacious.	Jun 22 19:34
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