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Techrights-secscraping 2007 - 2020 without page requisites:Oct 28 09:15
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Techrights-secjsut the text, for GeminiOct 28 09:15
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Techrights-secThe EU digitization funds are being spent at a bad time since committment toOct 28 16:07
Techrights-secopen standard seems low at the moment.  Indeed even the very definition is Oct 28 16:07
Techrights-secnow shakey and something not quite actaully open.Oct 28 16:07
schestowitz-TR2spending on "clown computing" is all the rage nowOct 28 16:07
Techrights-secNot just clown but unmaintainable, browser-specific javascript monstrosities.Oct 28 16:14
Techrights-secAnd "apps" for spyphonesOct 28 16:14
Techrights-secThings are alread starting to break and fall apart around the web in veryOct 28 16:14
Techrights-secdifferent sectors.  Oct 28 16:14
schestowitz-TR2Flash did not dueOct 28 16:14
schestowitz-TR2*dieOct 28 16:14
schestowitz-TR2it was replaced by the same in browser-level codeOct 28 16:14
schestowitz-TR2inc. DRM (EME)Oct 28 16:14
schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.eu/DataAugmented/status/1453740252992917521#mOct 28 16:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | SyntaxError (@DataAugmented): "Escuelas Linux 7.2 Released with Support for Linux Kernel 5.14, Updated Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157280 Escuelas Linux 7.2 comes two months after Escuelas Linux 7.1 with updated internals and applications. It’s based on the Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa) p" | nitterOct 28 16:24
Techrights-secTBL did a nasty turn against the WWW with his endorsement of EME.Oct 28 16:27
Techrights-secIt probably would have died without his push.Oct 28 16:27
Techrights-secOr at least if he pushed back against that move.  Oct 28 16:27
schestowitz-TR2There was already more to the www and w3c issues than just that (by that point)Oct 28 16:28
schestowitzhttps://techrights.org/2013/06/01/w3c-and-drm/Oct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/11/14/the-w3c-and-fake-authority/Oct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights Calls for Tim Berners-Lee to Drop DRM Support, Regain Control of (Currently Corporations-run) W3C | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The W3C and Fake Authority | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/03/08/jeff-jaffe-w3c-workgroup/Oct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/08/28/html-working-group-impact/Oct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | W3C Poisoned by Promoters of Software Patents Who Attack GNU/Linux | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Detoxicated from Microsoft Influence, But Regains Microsoft and Apple Presence | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/04/26/w3c-iso-lesson-xaml-ooxml/Oct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttps://techrights.org/2010/11/20/msft-and-sql92-level-sqllite/Oct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Death Row of Standards and Why W3C Must Be Careful | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Allegation: “W3C (Microsoft) Kills Web SQL” | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/03/apple-msft-pr-swpat-standard/ Oct 28 16:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | “Behind the Open Codec FUD Attack, W3C Captured by Microsoft, Apple, Nokia and So On?” | TechrightsOct 28 16:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/07/10/casting-shadow-on-w3c/Oct 28 16:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | “Developers Against Patents” to Start Attacking Patent Trolls; World Wide Web Threatened by Apple Patents | TechrightsOct 28 16:30
Techrights-secYes, Google, Facebook, and the others were ignoring the W3C by then and Oct 28 16:31
Techrights-secwalking all over the standards. Oct 28 16:31
schestowitz-TR2I will make a wiki page to spare time searching next time :-)Oct 28 16:31
schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_ConsortiumOct 28 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium - TechrightsOct 28 16:37
schestowitz-TR2one day we might need to refoctor and improve the wiki, it's just taking a lot of time and thinking how to do it rightOct 28 16:38
Techrights-secThe method works well in the beginning but does not scale over size or time.Oct 28 16:39
Techrights-sec"tags" are the way to go, but that includes going back and adding Oct 28 16:39
Techrights-seckeywords to older relevant stories.Oct 28 16:39
schestowitzsome tags are short lived, relevance is hard to foresee e.g. http://techrights.org/category/astrum/ and "OSDL"Oct 28 16:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Astrum | TechrightsOct 28 16:40
Techrights-secYes, keywords come and go, but at least new ones are easy to add and theOct 28 16:41
Techrights-secexistence of irrelevant ones does not interfere with retrieval usingOct 28 16:41
Techrights-secthe new ones.Oct 28 16:41
schestowitz-TR2you end up with a whole sea of them, fragmented with overlapsOct 28 16:42
Techrights-secyes, but that can be managed Oct 28 16:52
Techrights-secand it does help if there is a little curation of the keywords over timeOct 28 16:52
Techrights-secwith occasional refactoringOct 28 16:52
Techrights-secbut the effort needed is much less in scale and frequency as opposed to theOct 28 16:52
Techrights-seclist-based approach      Oct 28 16:52
Techrights-secsome databases keep the number and topic range limited for just that reason Oct 28 16:52
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