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matey/me wonders if anyone ever mixed "hometown" by adele with "my hometown" by springsteenApr 02 00:07
MinceR[Subject Hometown Here]Apr 02 00:07
mateyi guess there was an artist in belarus who used to paint jews flying over housetops playing the fiddle?Apr 02 00:10
mateyfrom vitebskApr 02 00:10
matey/me plays the devil went down the georgia (other georgia)Apr 02 00:11
*psydruid wonders if anyone has ever joined "like a hurricane" by neil young with "I'm on fire" by bruce springsteenApr 02 00:11
mateybruce was very calm for a guy who was on fireApr 02 00:12
mateythats the first thing they say you should do in a fire, is dont panicApr 02 00:12
MinceRthe only mashup i remember hearing was of "Don't Stop" by ATB(?) and "Bla Bla Bla" by Gigi D'AgostinoApr 02 00:12
mateyhes the very model of a safety officer. except for being on fire of courseApr 02 00:12
mateyoh my favourite maships are by dj earworm Apr 02 00:12
mateyexcept for the name of course. Apr 02 00:12
matey/me imagines that maships are like mashed potatoes, except with turnips as a subtstituteApr 02 00:13
MinceR:)Apr 02 00:13
mateytheyre ok with the right seasoningApr 02 00:13
mateygood for you tooApr 02 00:13
mateythey go well with cabbageApr 02 00:14
mateyat least as well as anything canApr 02 00:14
mateyat this point i have SOME idea how to do a mashup, so if i ever find myself with $5000 to blow on mixing equipment...Apr 02 00:15
matey/me could do it more cheaply, but thats no funApr 02 00:15
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mateyim not saying it would be any goodApr 02 00:16
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matey/me has a text file with many "cue points" for playing "too funky" by george michaelApr 02 00:16
mateyyou can have some fun with that, but its limitedApr 02 00:16
mateyi think i would have to actually install pulseaudio (possible, just not desirable) to get it to actually mix two audio tracks togetherApr 02 00:17
mateyin realtime, without preprocessingApr 02 00:17
mateyi swear there used to be another option. obviously thats gone by the wayside, assuming it existedApr 02 00:18
mateytheres jack audio, but im not sure what it wants/needsApr 02 00:18
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XRevan86Did someone say "PipeWire"?Apr 02 00:19
matey/me refusesApr 02 00:19
mateyi refuse to use any new shit, but the old shit isnt supportedApr 02 00:19
mateyi may change my mind at some point, but by then there will probably be new new shitApr 02 00:20
matey/me waits for baph os to be based on bsdApr 02 00:20
XRevan86matey: That's an interesting take on software evaluation.Apr 02 00:20
XRevan86new==badApr 02 00:20
mateyits a simplified explanation and not entirely true.Apr 02 00:20
mateyi do use new thingsApr 02 00:20
mateyi just dont like having new things shoved forcefully up myApr 02 00:21
matey"we move on"Apr 02 00:21
XRevan86matey: Look at qpwgraph and Helvum.Apr 02 00:21
mateythanks. i havent heard of them, so they cant be ALL badApr 02 00:21
matey/me liked systemd before it went all mainstreamApr 02 00:21
mateythats a lie of course-- but i definitely preferred it that wayApr 02 00:21
XRevan86These are patchbays/graphs for PipeWire.Apr 02 00:22
mateyawwApr 02 00:22
mateyi havent made a final decision about pipewire yetApr 02 00:22
mateyits ibm isnt it? something like that.Apr 02 00:22
XRevan86qjackctl and Carla will work too.Apr 02 00:22
activelowmatey: bsd kernel?Apr 02 00:23
mateyPipeWire is Free Software and is developed in the open. It was created by Wim Taymans, Principal Engineer at Red Hat and co-creator of the GStreamer multimedia framework.Apr 02 00:23
matey<activelow> matey: bsd kernel? <- yes, but no rushApr 02 00:23
matey<XRevan86> qjackctl and Carla will work too. <- the real problem is that like roy, im waiting for github to dieApr 02 00:23
mateybut i want to push it off a very tall building, i dont want to wait 15 yearsApr 02 00:24
mateyso basically at this point, i DO avoid most new software-- just not solely because its newApr 02 00:24
mateybecause its all tainted by monopolies i wish would hurry up and die already (but unlike roy im not so ridiculously optimistic)Apr 02 00:24
XRevan86matey: https://gitlab.com/rncbc/qjackctl your point?Apr 02 00:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rui Nuno Capela / qjackctl · GitLabApr 02 00:24
matey https://gitlab.com/rncbc/qjackctl <- \o/Apr 02 00:25
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mateyits nice when developers display a bit of sense.Apr 02 00:25
mateyive actually used qjackctl, for something...Apr 02 00:25
mateybut it was a couple years ago soApr 02 00:25
XRevan86PipeWire, qjackctl and Helvum are also on GitLab.Apr 02 00:26
mateyQjackCtl is a simple Qt application to control the JACK sound server daemon <- so its just jack + some guiApr 02 00:26
XRevan86qpwgraph I meanApr 02 00:26
mateyill look at helvumApr 02 00:26
XRevan86matey: Yea, but the important part is the graph. qpwgraph is made by the same developer specifically for PipeWire.Apr 02 00:27
mateywhat id like to do as far as mixing goes (this assumes a situation where i have more to spend than i do now of course)Apr 02 00:27
mateyis just get standalone dj equipmentApr 02 00:27
mateythe problem with standalone dj equipment, apart from being more expensive...Apr 02 00:27
mateyis theyre busy trying to turn it all into cloud shitApr 02 00:27
mateywith dj equipment righ tnow you have a choiceApr 02 00:27
mateycheaper, but usable mixer "controller" with non-free software, OR...Apr 02 00:28
XRevan86PipeWire and JACKd are the solutions here, the latter being the far harder to use one Apr 02 00:28
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mateystandalone hardware that doesnt require software.Apr 02 00:28
mateypresumably its all firmware thenApr 02 00:28
mateythe problem is, the longer things go on, the more the industry realises it can tie their "standalone" stuff into web-based shitApr 02 00:29
mateyor otherwise online update shitApr 02 00:29
XRevan86matey: That's assuming it doesn't need any software trickery.Apr 02 00:29
matey<XRevan86> matey: That's assuming it doesn't need any software trickery. <- of courseApr 02 00:29
mateybut since i dont have $5000 to blow on toys i barely have any skills required to use, its semi-mootApr 02 00:29
mateythis isnt even a fantasy of mine, more like an idle daydreamApr 02 00:29
mateya fantasy would be something more serious "god i wish i couldApr 02 00:30
matey"if i were serious about it id be trying to figure out how i could free up $5000 but there isnt enough passion about thisApr 02 00:30
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XRevan86matey: A free software solution doesn't require any commitment however, but it can be addicting.Apr 02 00:30
mateyso its almost purely hypothetical. unless $5000 falls into my lap for some reasonApr 02 00:31
mateythen id have to actually think about itApr 02 00:31
matey<XRevan86> matey: A free software solution doesn't require any commitment however, but it can be addicting. <- the problem for me is thisApr 02 00:31
XRevan86matey: I can think of other ways to spend 5 grand.Apr 02 00:31
mateyi care more about boycotting most software than i do about Apr 02 00:31
mateymost thingsApr 02 00:32
mateyand not just boycottingApr 02 00:32
mateyim TRYING to get to the point where i can actually point to the software thats the LEAST bullshitApr 02 00:32
mateyand build on thatApr 02 00:32
mateybut i refuse to get 50% of my software from fucking microsoftApr 02 00:32
mateyand another 25% from ibmApr 02 00:32
mateyi mean i spent 10 years getting away from that.Apr 02 00:32
mateyit wont do.Apr 02 00:32
mateyif i had no hope it would improve id chuck my computer out the windowApr 02 00:33
mateyi can process sound in all sorts of ways. there are programming languages designed around the idea of producing music (electronica at least)Apr 02 00:33
mateymost are too tedious to bother with for now, but sometimes i surprise myself. i swore it was too much trouble to create a distro. i did that anyway.Apr 02 00:34
mateythe only way id ever make a distro is if it was completely automated and a remix just meant changing some code.Apr 02 00:34
mateyso thats exactly what i did.Apr 02 00:34
mateybut i swore it was too much trouble, until it wasnt.Apr 02 00:35
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/people-caused-by-accidents.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/06/i-was-conceived-in-a-head-on-collision/ )Apr 02 00:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | I was conceived in a head-on collision.Apr 02 00:36
mateymaybe someday it will be like that with musicApr 02 00:36
mateyi really love music, i dont claim to be good at it. i tried learning piano once :)Apr 02 00:36
bnchsMinceR: that is trueApr 02 00:37
bnchsand what happens if you dont use a fucking condomApr 02 00:37
mateyim a very big fan of bobby mcferrin and reggie watts. they dont even need instruments.Apr 02 00:37
bnchsPRACTICE SAFE SECKS AND PUT ON CONDOMSApr 02 00:37
matey<bnchs> and what happens if you dont use a fucking condom <- i love that i have no idea what this is a response toApr 02 00:37
bnchs90% of all people are caused by accidentsApr 02 00:38
bnchsif you use condomsApr 02 00:38
bnchsyou could get rid of those 90%Apr 02 00:38
bnchsand leave only 9% in the worldApr 02 00:38
mateywell, at least a large percentage of that 90%Apr 02 00:38
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bnchs10%Apr 02 00:38
bnchsi meanApr 02 00:38
mateyyou triggered dfcs breederdarApr 02 00:39
mateydfc: we were just complaining about breeders, i shit you notApr 02 00:39
bnchsikisboikis seeris ikisApr 02 00:39
mateythen you showed up, as if on cueApr 02 00:39
bnchsits just good timingApr 02 00:39
mateyunlike 90% of birthsApr 02 00:39
bnchs95%*Apr 02 00:40
bnchseverytime you say the percentage, it increasesApr 02 00:40
mateyi suppose in a world this ridiculous, nearly all births are poorly timedApr 02 00:40
matey <bnchs> everytime you say the percentage, it increases <- so its like one of those youtube videos that goes "lion king theme but every tieme they say "its a lion" in african the pitch increases"Apr 02 00:41
matey^ african is a languageApr 02 00:41
mateylike europeanApr 02 00:42
mateyor asianApr 02 00:42
mateysome say canadian is a language, but theyve obviously never heard it thenApr 02 00:42
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matey"atTACK SUR FACE"Apr 02 00:43
mateyjeff bezos looks like dr evil and theo de raadt talks like himApr 02 00:43
mateylets hope they never join forcesApr 02 00:43
mateyamerican is actually british english with bits of canadian, spanish and german thrown inApr 02 00:47
mateyHelvum is a GTK-based patchbay for pipewire, inspired by the JACK tool catia. Features planned. Volume control "Debug mode" that lets you view advanced information for nodes and portsApr 02 00:53
mateyThe straw-coloured fruit bat (Eidolon helvum) is a large fruit bat that is the most widely distributed of all the African megabats.It is quite common throughout its area ranging from the southwestern Arabian PeninsulaApr 02 00:53
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▆▄▁▅▁▅▆▇▆▆▁▄▆▅▅▅▇▅▅▅▅▆▄▇▆▃▃▄▆▇▆▁ avg(k/sec) 27.81 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▄▅▃▁█▁▂█▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▃▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 36.01▕ swarm size (avg): 318.18  ⟲Apr 02 00:59
matey/me is half-surprised no one is doing dj shows using emacs somehowApr 02 01:00
mateydj modeApr 02 01:01
mateyhttps://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2021/11/24/the-most-controversial-change-in-emacs-history/Apr 02 01:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lars.ingebrigtsen.no | The Most Controversial Change In Emacs History – Random ThoughtsApr 02 01:02
matey"The attractive thing about this change is that, well, it’s prettier, but it’s also more consistent with the other elements at the margins of the Emacs frame: The menus and the toolbar have used proportional fonts for a long time"Apr 02 01:03
DaemonFChttps://tenrecipes.com/slow-cooker-beef-bourguignon/Apr 02 01:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenrecipes.com | SLOW COOKER BEEF BOURGUIGNON – Top 10 RecipesApr 02 01:07
DaemonFCI always wondered why cooking wine wasn't taxed and nobody got ID'd for it.Apr 02 01:07
DaemonFCTook a small sip and it's so salty that nobody could drink it.Apr 02 01:07
DaemonFCYou'd think maybe some hardcore alcoholic, but I'd go for the Listerine first before this stuff. :PApr 02 01:08
matey/me wonders how julia child dealt with all that saltApr 02 01:09
mateyoh of course, she just used sherryApr 02 01:09
DaemonFCYeah, I recall her drinking it while she cooked.Apr 02 01:10
mateyi wasnt sure if it was an urban legend or notApr 02 01:13
mateyim SOOOOO GLAD you could spend this time with meApr 02 01:14
mateybe sure to make your brocolli rosettes look like happy little rosettes... no, thats bob ross, oh well! lets test the sherry againApr 02 01:15
mateyi never know where julia ends and dan ackroyd beginsApr 02 01:16
matey/me wishes there had been a real cooking show on pbs where dan acroyd played julia child every weekApr 02 01:17
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=tGg4njImm0Y  Julia Child Burns FoodApr 02 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Julia Child Burns Food - InvidiousApr 02 01:25
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/tu31hq/all_of_the_teslas/Apr 02 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ALL of the Teslas! : LateStageCapitalismApr 02 01:28
AdmFubarI don't recall julia drinking while she cooked... but graham kerr I remember he did.....Apr 02 01:33
matey"This subreddit is a safe space; we have a zero-tolerance policy for bigotry. We also automatically filter out posts containing certain words and phrases that some users may find offensive. Please respect the safe space, and don't try to slip banned words or phrases past the filter." lenin would have found this adorable (and stupid)Apr 02 01:35
AdmFubarI think when he cooked with wine he'd finish the bottle by the end of the showApr 02 01:35
matey  https://yewtu.be/watch?v=99-n42Xb6NQ julia child vs gordon ramsayApr 02 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gordon Ramsay vs Julia Child. Epic Rap Battles of History - InvidiousApr 02 01:36
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mateyi love the things they do to make this stuffApr 02 01:40
AdmFubarmatey should watch kevin belton, hiw outtakes are funnyApr 02 01:40
mateyto make the feathers fly up when she hits the bird with a hammer, they put features in a dixie cup and used a compressed air hoseApr 02 01:41
mateywhich couldnt be more obvious, after youve seen them do itApr 02 01:41
matey/me looks up kevin belton outtakes and only finds https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mfPyRA5djC0Apr 02 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Today's Special: Chef Kev's best bloopers - InvidiousApr 02 01:42
mateythey put features in a dixie cup <- sort of like most software these daysApr 02 01:43
mateys/features/feathers/Apr 02 01:43
mateyits not a bird, its a featherApr 02 01:43
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AdmFubarthey put typos int a Dixie cup tooApr 02 01:46
mateythat was cute but seemed a bit genericApr 02 01:47
mateytv news guys all seem like that to meApr 02 01:47
AdmFubarwhat was cute?Apr 02 01:48
matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mfPyRA5djC0 Apr 02 01:52
mateyhe seems to be enjoying himself at leastApr 02 01:52
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▄▆▆▅▆▅▆▆▅▆▆▆▆▅▅▆▅▅▆▅▇▅▆▅▆▅▅▅▇▃▁ avg(k/sec) 27.81 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▁█▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 30.16▕ swarm size (avg): 333.05  ⟲Apr 02 01:59
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AdmFubaroh that... that one isn't very good... the good ones are at the end of his show... he is usually on around 11-11:30 am on CreateTV... if you have that take a lookApr 02 02:10
mateyyeah i didnt think that was probably his best stuffApr 02 02:10
mateyits what i found-- good to know Apr 02 02:10
mateyincidentally, i got curious if there were any news anchors making dumb jokes about the twin towers collapsing-- because, hey, i have a very low opinion of news anchors (mostly)Apr 02 02:12
mateyand in the results, first page (mixed in with the others, not at the top) are not one, but TWO results about will smith and chris rock at the oscarsApr 02 02:12
mateyshocking? no. a bit surreal? maybeApr 02 02:12
mateystay classy, gulagApr 02 02:13
matey"news anchor jokes twin towers" <- the queryApr 02 02:13
mateyi didnt find any news anchors making jokes thoughApr 02 02:14
mateywait, make that three videos about the oscars thingApr 02 02:15
techrights-newsLutris Game Manager Adds Steam Deck Support, EA Origin and Ubisoft Connect Integration • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163249Apr 02 02:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lutris Game Manager Adds Steam Deck Support, EA Origin and Ubisoft Connect Integration | Tux MachinesApr 02 02:19
mateywow, okay i havent seen the footage and i dont care-- but from a comedy / feud perspective, what chris rock said backstage after the slap is pricelessApr 02 02:21
matey"thats the only time you get hit by muhammed ali and it doesnt leave a scratch"Apr 02 02:21
mateyi havent paid attention to chris rock in years, but hes still got it.Apr 02 02:21
MinceR:)Apr 02 02:22
mateyand because he used an open hand, someone said "paper beats rock" Apr 02 02:25
matey/me gigglesApr 02 02:25
mateyi dont think anyones going to top thatApr 02 02:27
techrights-newsKitty Terminal Emulator: #HowTo Install, Configure, and Use It • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163250 activelow will love it. Terminal that needs a GPU!!Apr 02 02:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kitty Terminal Emulator: How to Install, Configure, and Use It | Tux MachinesApr 02 02:29
techrights-newsxkcd: Instructions ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2601/ ䷉ Source: xkcdApr 02 02:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: InstructionsApr 02 02:29
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techrights-newsApple "attacker could exploit one of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected device. These vulnerabilities have been detected in exploits in the wild." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/01/apple-releases-security-updates-0Apr 02 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Apple Releases Security Updates | CISAApr 02 02:30
techrights-news"The answer raises more questions about the potential impacts on other species and ecosystems, according to a news release from Stanford News Service issued early Monday." https://www.hmbreview.com/news/squid-migrates-due-to-climate-change/article_46a83e3a-9fce-11ec-9190-df9c9b136027.htmlApr 02 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Squid migrates due to climate change | Local News Stories | hmbreview.comApr 02 02:31
techrights-news"In this video, we are looking at Deepin 20.5." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EeexYCaS7B4Apr 02 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Deepin 20.5 Run Through - InvidiousApr 02 02:33
techrights-news"In this video, we are looking at Ubuntu 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CZ555kHBNJ0Apr 02 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - InvidiousApr 02 02:34
activelowit is pure nonsense, a terminal emulator doesn't need OpenGL to be fast and efficientApr 02 02:36
activelowit needs a fast framebufferApr 02 02:37
activelowand it isn't GPU, it is the opengl acceleration to rejectApr 02 02:37
techrights-news🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-010422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-010422.txtApr 02 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 01, 2022Apr 02 02:38
MinceRhow is it going to trigger gpu driver bugs and freeze the whole system without using opengl, though?Apr 02 02:38
techrights-newsHow to install Haiku OS https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-haiku/Apr 02 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixcop.com | How to install Haiku OS - Unix / Linux the admins TutorialsApr 02 02:38
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techrights-newsLKML: Namjae Jeon: [GIT PULL] exfat update for 5.18-rc1 ⚓ https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/1/403 Linux kernel getting stuffed with Microsoft crap. Those who oppose have been silenced.Apr 02 02:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Namjae Jeon: [GIT PULL] exfat update for 5.18-rc1Apr 02 02:41
techrights-newsScreencasts of Ubuntu 22.04 Beta and Deepin 20.5 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163251Apr 02 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Screencasts of Ubuntu 22.04 Beta and Deepin 20.5 | Tux MachinesApr 02 02:41
techrights-news[GIT PULL] Second batch of KVM changes for Linux 5.18 - Paolo Bonzini ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220401153256.103938-1-pbonzini@redhat.com/ ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | LinuxApr 02 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Second batch of KVM changes for Linux 5.18 - Paolo BonziniApr 02 02:42
techrights-newsWhat Is Fedora Linux? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163252Apr 02 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Fedora Linux? | Tux MachinesApr 02 02:42
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-01.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-01.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Apr 02 02:44
techrights-news"What do Windows user think about Linux and other Linux-related topics, such as the terminal, tiling window managers and the GNU project? Let's ask a few average windows users." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xkwxOUwbB0sApr 02 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | What Do Windows User Think About Linux? Let's Ask Them! - InvidiousApr 02 02:50
techrights-newsMicrosoft crime. "Wow… that’s a lot of bribery and sloppy behavior. Almost surprising it slipped through, at such a scale it’s a matter of time before it gets noticed." Sloppy? Where are the prosecutions and arrests???? https://ervin.ipsquad.net/blog/2022/04/01/web-review-week-2022-13/Apr 02 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ervin.ipsquad.net | Web Review, Week 2022-13 - ervinApr 02 02:52
techrights-newsThey probably demand you open a Microsoft account to participate (also, you cannot criticise Microsoft for its crimes; Rust policy) https://www.zdnet.com/article/rust-foundation-opens-up-rust-community-grants-program/Apr 02 02:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust Foundation launches Rust Community Grants program | ZDNetApr 02 02:53
techrights-news"This is our bi-weekly departure into the world of amateur radio contests, Free software conventions, special events, listener challenges, hedonism and just plain fun." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/04/lhs-episode-461-the-weekender-lxxxix-2/Apr 02 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #461: The Weekender LXXXIX | Linux in the Ham ShackApr 02 02:56
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163253Apr 02 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 02 02:56
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techrights-news"The team worked on this version for over a year and introduced the new platform as a tech preview after CodeReady Workspaces 2.10. The official name of this release is Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces 3.0." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/01/codeready-workspaces-scales-now-red-hat-openshift-dev-spacesApr 02 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | CodeReady Workspaces scales up, is now Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces | Red Hat DeveloperApr 02 02:59
techrights-news"It’s no joke: here’s your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and what’s coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-13/Apr 02 03:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-13 – Fedora Community BlogApr 02 03:01
techrights-newsNibble Stew: The C++ best practices game jam sample project Meson conversion ⚓ https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-c-best-practices-game-jam-sample.html ䷉ Source: nibblestewApr 02 03:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: The C++ best practices game jam sample project Meson conversionApr 02 03:03
techrights-news"Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from March 25 to April 01." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/04/twig-37/Apr 02 03:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thisweek.gnome.org | #37 Absolutely Serious · This Week in GNOMEApr 02 03:04
techrights-ipfs-bot☞ Gemini requests since start of month:   48950 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 39987 •     Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 22 days agoApr 02 03:05
techrights-newsLife off social media, six months in - Silvia Maggi ⚓ https://silviamaggidesign.com/personal/life-off-social-media/ ䷉ Source: silviamaggi "I tell you what happened when I quit social media six months ago, and why I don't want to come back."Apr 02 03:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-silviamaggidesign.com | Life off social media, six months in - Silvia MaggiApr 02 03:05
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techrights-ipfs-bot☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.Apr 02 03:07
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techrights-ipfs-bot☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.Apr 02 03:08
techrights-news"I guess this makes me wonder—can mockery culture have empathy, too? Today in Tedium, inspired by this saga, I want to consider the ethics of badness." https://tedium.co/2022/04/01/razzies-bruce-willis-trash-culture-empathy/Apr 02 03:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Bruce Willis and The Razzies: The Case for Empathy in Trash CultureApr 02 03:24
techrights-newsThe CNX Software Web site has been down for a very long timeApr 02 03:25
techrights-news"Here, in this post, we are listing our open-source collection of password managers, for different platforms." https://medevel.com/46-os-password-managers/Apr 02 03:27
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/46-os-password-managers/Apr 02 03:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 46 Open-source Free Password managers for Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS, and AndroidApr 02 03:27
techrights-news"IceCat the GNU web browser finally updated to the latest Firefox ESR version" https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-news-2022-03/Apr 02 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Sparky news 2022/03 – SparkyLinuxApr 02 03:28
techrights-news"I try to log into my devbox. SSH is taking a while. Hmm. That's weird. Is my network up? Yes. Can I ping the WireGuard address? No. Can I ping the host directly? Nope. Hmm. Maybe it crashed. I walk to the machine and press the reset button." gemini://shit.cx/tech/devenv/2022-04-01-a-serial-console/Apr 02 03:30
schestowitz[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D190.jpgApr 02 03:31
schestowitz[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D548.jpgApr 02 03:31
techrights-newsTools as Superpowers gemini://tilde.team/~steve/blog/powers.gmiApr 02 03:34
techrights-newsSleeping with even a little bit of light isn't good for your health, study shows gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/npr/current/1.gmiApr 02 03:36
techrights-newsSacha Chua on What’s New in Emacs | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/Apr 02 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sacha Chua on What’s New in Emacs | TechrightsApr 02 03:43
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Friday, April 01, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextApr 02 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesApr 02 04:06
techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingApr 02 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexApr 02 04:06
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163254Apr 02 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 02 04:28
techrights-newsGiving phone numbers and more data to spies ("social" control media) https://www.maketecheasier.com/set-up-two-factor-authentication-social-networks/Apr 02 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Set Up Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) on Various Social Networks - Make Tech EasierApr 02 04:28
techrights-newsCan you trust _THE US_ with your face? https://betanews.com/2022/04/01/facial-recognition-deepin-linux-china/Apr 02 04:29
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: betanews.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betanews.com/2022/04/01/facial-recognition-deepin-linux-china/Apr 02 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Facial recognition comes to deepin Linux -- can you trust China with your face?Apr 02 04:29
techrights-newsLutris 0.5.10 released but outsourced to proprietary software controlled by criminals (Microsoft)Apr 02 04:32
techrights-newsUbuntu 20.04 LTS top https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-SteamApr 02 04:35
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: steampowered.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-SteamApr 02 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-store.steampowered.com | Steam Hardware & Software SurveyApr 02 04:35
techrights-newsArcan: The Day of a new Command-Line Interface: Shell • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163255Apr 02 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arcan: The Day of a new Command-Line Interface: Shell | Tux MachinesApr 02 04:37
techrights-newsIs There an Alternative to iOS and Android Smartphones? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163256Apr 02 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is There an Alternative to iOS and Android Smartphones? | Tux MachinesApr 02 04:38
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techrights-newsThis talk was uploaded four days ago. “Ángel is a software engineer from northern Spain and recent graduate” http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/social-control-media-talk/Apr 02 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ángel García Menéndez on Social Control Media | TechrightsApr 02 05:31
techrights-newsSacha Chua on What’s New in Emacs • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/01/emacsconf-in-a-nutshell/ This talk was uploaded as a separate video file just eight hours agoApr 02 05:31
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163257Apr 02 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 02 05:33
techrights-newsStupid buzzwords and garbage https://www.techmarketview.com/ukhotviews/archive/2022/03/31/eleco-continues-to-build-its-saas-foundationApr 02 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eleco continues to build its SaaS foundation | TechMarketViewApr 02 05:36
techrights-news"This week, a company I never think about scooped up another one I had forgotten existed. It was a reminder that we shouldn’t underestimate the boring." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/technology/hugs-to-boring.htmlApr 02 05:37
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/technology/hugs-to-boring.htmlApr 02 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Hugs to Boring - The New York TimesApr 02 05:37
techrights-news"Amazon warehouse workers in New York City voted in favor of joining a trade union on Friday, marking the first-ever successful union campaign against the tech giant in its history." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/amazon_warehouse_union/Apr 02 05:38
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/amazon_warehouse_union/Apr 02 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amazon warehouse workers in New York in unionization victory • The RegisterApr 02 05:38
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163258Apr 02 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesApr 02 05:41
techrights-newsLive - We're Being Herded Technologically, need to Resist, Q&A https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4ZFqrCD6SBkApr 02 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Live - We're Being Herded Technologically, need to Resist, Q&A - InvidiousApr 02 05:49
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techrights-news40,000 Pages in Gemini | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/40000-pages-in-gemini/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/40000-pages-in-gemini/Apr 02 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 40,000 Pages in Gemini | TechrightsApr 02 06:01
techrights-news"The new company, which will be headquartered in Riyadh, will be owned 50% by the PIF and 50% by stc." https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/04/02/hungarys-opposition-struggles-to-beat-viktor-orbans-stealth-autocracyApr 02 06:09
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: economist.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/04/02/hungarys-opposition-struggles-to-beat-viktor-orbans-stealth-autocracyApr 02 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hungary’s opposition struggles to beat Viktor Orban’s stealth autocracy | The EconomistApr 02 06:09
techrights-news"Qualcomm, MediaTek, Apple, Samsung LSI, and Unisoc took the top-five revenue share spots in the smartphone AP market in 2021" https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4493341Apr 02 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Taiwan’s MediaTek overtook Qualcomm in smartphone AP market in 2021 | Taiwan News | 2022-04-01 13:08:00Apr 02 06:10
techrights-news"Ukraine’s Office of Foreign Affairs says that more than 100 of the Fortune 500 outsource to the country" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3655933/ukrainian-it-industry-says-it-s-still-open-for-business.htmlApr 02 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ukrainian IT industry says it’s still open for business | ComputerworldApr 02 06:11
techrights-news"The three Republicans were Reps. Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Brian Mast (Fla.) and Tom McClintock (Calif.)" https://thehill.com/news/house/3256567-just-three-gop-lawmakers-back-marijuana-legalization-vote-two-dems-vote-no/Apr 02 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Just three GOP lawmakers back marijuana legalization vote; two Dems vote ‘no’ | The HillApr 02 06:12
techrights-news"The tricky part is defining when any corporate entity actually “knows” something has happened" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3655691/when-should-the-data-breach-clock-start.htmlApr 02 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When should the data breach clock start? | ComputerworldApr 02 06:12
techrights-news"Ukraine’s security service said the Chinese government attempted to [break into] more than 600 websites belonging to the government" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3256792-ukraine-intelligence-accuses-china-of-hacking-days-before-invasion-report/Apr 02 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Ukraine intelligence accuses China of hacking days before invasion: report | The HillApr 02 06:15
techrights-news"China staged a huge cyberattack on Ukraine’s military and nuclear facilities in the build-up to Russia’s invasion" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-cyberattack-ukraine-z9gfkbmgfApr 02 06:15
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thetimes.co.uk | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-cyberattack-ukraine-z9gfkbmgfApr 02 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | China accused of hacking Ukraine days before Russian invasion | News | The TimesApr 02 06:15
techrights-news"FOSSEPS stands for Free software Solutions for European Public Services" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/digital-skills-public-sector/solution/interoperable-europe-academy/news/interoperability-key-enabler-e-governmentApr 02 06:19
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: europa.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/digital-skills-public-sector/solution/interoperable-europe-academy/news/interoperability-key-enabler-e-governmentApr 02 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Interoperability: a key enabler of e-government | JoinupApr 02 06:19
DaemonFChttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-LTS-BetaApr 02 06:19
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-LTS-BetaApr 02 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released With Many Improvements - PhoronixApr 02 06:19
techrights-news"New Zealand's tech start-up community has done very nicely over the last decade or so developing software and applications that solve problems" https://techblog.nz/2830-Griffin-on-Tech-The-EUs-plan-to-bring-Big-Tech-into-lineApr 02 06:19
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techblog.nz | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techblog.nz/2830-Griffin-on-Tech-The-EUs-plan-to-bring-Big-Tech-into-lineApr 02 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techblog.nz | Griffin on Tech: The EU's plan to bring Big Tech into line | ITP TechblogApr 02 06:19
DaemonFCCanonical is shipping another FrankenGNOME.Apr 02 06:20
DaemonFCReally, how hard is it to make sure your distribution is using one version of GNOME?Apr 02 06:20
techrights-news“fake news and false allegations” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/war-rages-neighboring-ukraine-hungarys-hardline-leader-benefits-closen-rcna22289Apr 02 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Hungarian leader with close ties to Putin toes the line on the war ahead of electionApr 02 06:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, I was talking to mom about the Amazon union in NYC.Apr 02 06:21
DaemonFCI said people working at Amazon face such horrific working conditions and such awful employment prospects that they figured they had nothing to lose.Apr 02 06:21
DaemonFCAmazon is the coal mining company of the 21st century.Apr 02 06:21
techrights-news"The Batman had been granted an official release date in China of March 18" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/china-box-office-1235121616/Apr 02 06:21
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/china-box-office-1235121616/Apr 02 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Do Hollywood Films Need to Rethink China Box Office Strategy? – The Hollywood ReporterApr 02 06:21
DaemonFCThe Batman wasn't a great movie.Apr 02 06:22
techrights-news"The unexpected victory seems to have sent a welcome shock through the labor movement" https://www.teenvogue.com/story/amazon-labor-union-win-vote-staten-islandApr 02 06:22
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: teenvogue.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/amazon-labor-union-win-vote-staten-islandApr 02 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teenvogue.com | Amazon Labor Union in Staten Island Wins Unionization Vote | Teen VogueApr 02 06:22
DaemonFCThe movies that took themselves less seriously were pretty good. The Christian Bale series was good.Apr 02 06:22
DaemonFCJoker was good.Apr 02 06:22
techrights-newsThe Bezos SweatshopZone "spent $4.3 million over the past year trying to snuff out pro-labor sentiment" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/amazon-facility-staten-island-unionizes-1331286/Apr 02 06:23
-altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/amazon-facility-staten-island-unionizes-1331286/Apr 02 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Amazon Employees Vote to Unionize in Staten Island - Rolling StoneApr 02 06:23
techrights-news"About 57% of the more than 8,300 [SweatshopZone] workers on the voter list cast their ballots." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/amazon-workers-nyc-vote-unionize-company-83812661Apr 02 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Amazon workers in NYC vote to unionize, a first for company - ABC NewsApr 02 06:24
techrights-news"Workers at an [SweatshopZone] warehouse in New York City have voted to unionize, an historic first for workers at the [Sweatshop] company." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/1/23004524/amazon-workers-vote-union-jfk8-staten-island-new-york-warehouse-winApr 02 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon workers vote to unionize Staten Island warehouse - The VergeApr 02 06:25
techrights-news"The [outfit] highlighted that approximately 93 percent of the world’s television households, 61 percent of TV [brainwash] sales and 60 percent of total [brainwash] sales are outside of the United States" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/roku-stock-target-analyst-international-growth-1235123441/Apr 02 06:26
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techrights-newsMicrosoft is just crime and corruption. All the rest is spin and corrupted (bribed) "media". https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/cloud-computing/microsofts-cloud-business-targeted-by-eu-antitrust-regulators/90603282Apr 02 06:27
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techrights-newsMicrosoft has managed to eleverate Bribes & Corruption to principal "business" unitApr 02 06:28
DaemonFChttps://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/04/01/end-covid-19-emergency-could-jeopardize-medicaid-millions-us/7190506001/Apr 02 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | End to COVID-19 emergency could jeopardize Medicaid for millions in USApr 02 06:32
DaemonFCMillions of people lose their health insurance while the military gets another 11% increase.Apr 02 06:32
schestowitz-TRyeahApr 02 06:32
schestowitz-TRsays a lotApr 02 06:32
schestowitz-TRbut heApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TRheyApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TRthe poor can join the armyApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TR'free' healthApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TRunless you dieApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TRcatch the next plane to ukraineApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TRgo die for Wall StreetApr 02 06:33
schestowitz-TR[06:21] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I was talking to mom about the Amazon union in NYC.Apr 02 06:34
schestowitz-TRI recently began calling it SweatshopZoneApr 02 06:34
schestowitz-TRit treats workers so poorly on both side of the pacificApr 02 06:34
schestowitz-TRor atlantic for europeApr 02 06:34
DaemonFCThe president of the new union thanked Jeff Bezos. He said while Bezos was busy pretending to be an astronaut, "we were down here setting up a labor union".Apr 02 06:35
schestowitz-TRthe only reason it still employes human beings is that the machines are not advanced enough and they can get away with treating people like disposable trashApr 02 06:35
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: tongue in cheekApr 02 06:35
DaemonFCYes.Apr 02 06:35
schestowitz-TRthey also need to do diplomacyApr 02 06:35
schestowitz-TRas a unionApr 02 06:36
DaemonFCThe Teamsters has pledged a lot of money to unionize Amazon warehouses.Apr 02 06:36
DaemonFCHopefully, they can reverse the severe decline in union membership. If they can get better deals for Amazon workers, it puts upwards pressure on wages at places like Walmart, Sam's Club, Best Buy....Apr 02 06:37
schestowitz-TRyes, exactlyApr 02 06:37
schestowitz-TRit's like those no-poaching collusionApr 02 06:37
schestowitz-TRI saw NO executive prosecuted for theseApr 02 06:37
schestowitz-TRthey're designed o oLOWER salariesApr 02 06:38
DaemonFCFrom what I understand, things can't get much worse at Amazon. They really can't. One of Mandy's co-workers at Walmart quit because she thought Amazon would pay more. She quit a job at Walmart with healthcare, retirement account, lots of stuff. Went to Amazon.Apr 02 06:38
schestowitz-TR*to so much for 'free market'Apr 02 06:38
DaemonFCWas back at Walmart in 3 months, starting wage, no benefits, no vacation time, no nothing.Apr 02 06:38
DaemonFCIt takes years of employment at Walmart to rack up vacation and sick time at a respectable rate.Apr 02 06:38
schestowitz-TRamazon does recruitment ads in radio hereApr 02 06:38
schestowitz-TRthis must mean they lost many workersApr 02 06:38
DaemonFCYou have to be there for two years at Walmart before you get as much vacation and sick hours as everyone should get anyway.Apr 02 06:39
DaemonFCIt's disgusting.Apr 02 06:39
DaemonFCBecause they have 40% turnover.Apr 02 06:39
DaemonFCThey know few people make it two years and if you do, it's because you're very productive and they chose to let you do it.Apr 02 06:39
DaemonFCThat's why.Apr 02 06:39
DaemonFCThey have it set up so that people who don't last very long don't cost the company much to fizzle out and leave or get shown the door.Apr 02 06:40
DaemonFCOn April 13th, I think it is, Mandy starts earning vacation and sick pay twice as fast as he does now.Apr 02 06:41
DaemonFCIt doubles each year for the first two years.Apr 02 06:41
DaemonFCIt accumulates a little faster each year thereafter, but mostly in the first two years.Apr 02 06:41
techrights-newsFinland's Spy Service Warns of Russian Interference, Attacks - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/03/30/1413258 ䷉ Source: soylentnewsApr 02 06:41
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DaemonFCBut the first two years kind of suck.Apr 02 06:42
DaemonFCThey give you just enough to take 1-2 fishing days and get the flu.Apr 02 06:42
DaemonFCAnd that's about it.Apr 02 06:42
DaemonFCPeople aren't meant to live like this.Apr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TRhey, you should ask RMS:Apr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TRwhat's betterApr 02 06:43
DaemonFCPeople NEED a couple weeks of vacation each year and probably 10 sick days is fair I guess.Apr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TRworking in SweatshopZone warehouseApr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TRor writing proprietary software?Apr 02 06:43
DaemonFCThey used to have that or more, when the big employer was GM.Apr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TRI never took sick live where I workApr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TR11+ yearsApr 02 06:43
schestowitz-TRbut then again I work from homeApr 02 06:43
DaemonFCPeople in the 1950s had a one income household, middle class, and took vacations that lasted nearly a month.Apr 02 06:44
DaemonFCToday, your boss goes out to find and shame you if you want to go to a state park for a few days over the summer.Apr 02 06:44
DaemonFCIt's pathetic.Apr 02 06:44
DaemonFCIn the 1950s, you had a house, acres of land, and your car was a "land barge".Apr 02 06:45
DaemonFCToday, gas and cars cost a fortune, the cars break down all the time, mechanics for them can be $400 an hour.Apr 02 06:45
DaemonFCAnd you live in a tiny apartment.Apr 02 06:46
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, There was an episode of Sliders, right?Apr 02 06:46
DaemonFCThey get to a world inspired by Thomas Malthus to keep the population low.Apr 02 06:46
DaemonFCThey slide in and can't believe how clean everything is in LA, and how there's no crime, everyone's really nice, it's spread out, there's no urban decay, and food is cheap.Apr 02 06:47
DaemonFCThe problem isn't just automation. It's that people won't stop fucking and reproducing and increasing the number that NEEEEEEED a job, but there is no job.Apr 02 06:48
DaemonFCWho NEED food, and we can barely feed half the people in the world already.Apr 02 06:48
DaemonFCWe're fouling up the planet. Half the surface water in the US now is unsafe to drink or two swim in, and if you catch fish in it, don't eat them.Apr 02 06:49
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DaemonFCSo, if we had controlled the population, things would be better now.Apr 02 06:51
DaemonFCHaving people you can't take care of is not good.Apr 02 06:51
DaemonFCPutin has no need to make sure that the teenagers he's taking for the army come back alive.Apr 02 06:52
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techrights-newsBBC Two - House of Maxwell ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b64j3y ䷉ Source: billbc won't even mention its master Bill Gates, for sure... shifting attention, Beeb. For Bill... http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/Apr 02 07:02
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techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163259Apr 02 07:23
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techrights-newsProprietary Software and Monopolies • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163260Apr 02 07:23
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techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163261Apr 02 07:23
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techrights-newsLutris Game Manager released with Steam Deck Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163262Apr 02 07:23
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techrights-news⚓ CNX Software | ♾ Gemini address: CNX SoftwareApr 02 07:26
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techrights-news"Although oppositions are not evenly distributed over all technical areas, some seeing hardly any, but if one extrapolates the 5% of opposed patents to the rest of the granted patents, the number of patents in force which are not really valid must be extremely high." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/Apr 02 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | SUEPO: Industrial actions ‘striking success’ - Kluwer Patent BlogApr 02 08:07
techrights-news"In this respect, what will be happening at the UPC, which is primarily conceived for the big industry, is symptomatic. Why is it that the basic fee for an action in nullity is nearly double of that for infringement? This is not a coincidence." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/Apr 02 08:08
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techrights-news"Question: given that ILO AT judgement no. 4430 declared Circular 347 unlawful, and set it aside, what was the legal basis for the EPO’s “strike registration tool”? More pertinently, why would EPO management persist with providing a tool that had no formal legal standing?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/Apr 02 08:09
techrights-news"Thus, could it possibly be that, by providing a registration tool, and by (deliberately?) making that tool unreliable, the management were trying to make staff think twice about going on strike? If so, that would demonstrate a complete contempt for both the ILO AT’s rulings and fundamental rights" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/Apr 02 08:10
techrights-news"Just because Richard Stallman seems to have been left out of this year’s LibrePlanet, the Free Software Foundation’s annual “free software” lovefest" https://fossforce.com/2022/04/richard-stallman-to-deliver-state-of-free-software-online-on-april-13/Apr 02 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Stallman to Deliver 'State of Free Software' Online April 13 - FOSS ForceApr 02 08:15
techrights-news"first streaming release to receive the prestigious prize" https://torrentfreak.com/coda-piracy-skyrockets-after-best-picture-oscar-win-220401/Apr 02 08:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"CODA" Piracy Skyrockets After Best Picture Oscar Win * TorrentFreakApr 02 08:16
techrights-news"Strike 3, the most prolific 'copyright troll' in the United States, is suing an individual said to have pirated its movies using BitTorrent." https://torrentfreak.com/prolific-copyright-troll-seeks-bittorrent-piracy-evidence-from-netflix-220401/Apr 02 08:16
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techrights-newsIn Austria the Government Pays to Repair Your Stuff https://therevelator.org/austria-repair-bonus/Apr 02 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therevelator.org | In Austria the Government Pays to Repair Your Stuff • The RevelatorApr 02 08:17
techrights-newsWTH is going on at creativecommons? https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/01/congratulations-and-farewell/Apr 02 08:18
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schestowitz-TRmatey (away): walsh in chargeApr 02 08:20
schestowitz-TR"First, CC is excited to announce that longtime CC staffer, Kat Walsh, has been promoted to CC General Counsel. Kat was on the CC legal team from 2012-2015 during the drafting and initial publication process of version 4.0 of the license suite. She returned to CC in 2021 as Deputy General Counsel. Kat has a nearly 20-year history in the free and open culture movements, including many years on the boards of the Wikimedia Foundation and the Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz-TRFree Software Foundation, and has previously worked in library policy, technology startups, and online community management. She is an advocate for free access to knowledge and for CC licensing as part of the infrastructure for an internet that belongs to everyone. As General Counsel, she oversees the legal support for all aspects of CC’s activities, provides strategic input, leads the stewardship of CC’s legal tools, and advises the Apr 02 08:21
schestowitz-TRorganization on new programmatic initiatives."Apr 02 08:21
techrights-newsThis week in KDE: Get ready for a big one! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163263Apr 02 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Get ready for a big one! | Tux MachinesApr 02 08:22
techrights-newsThe SweatshopZone rebels https://truthout.org/articles/new-york-amazon-workers-vote-to-form-union-in-historic-first/ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/pro-union-vote-leads-new-york-amazon-workers-look-make-historyApr 02 08:30
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techrights-newsBest Free and Open Source Software – March 2022 Updates • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163264Apr 02 08:30
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techrights-news"in a meeting Jeff Bezos attended, said of the activist Chris Smalls, whom the company had just fired after he helped lead a walkout early in the pandemic over Covid-related health and safety issues." https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/amazon-workers-union-staten-island/Apr 02 08:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Amazon Workers Score a Decisive Win in Staten Island! | The NationApr 02 08:31
AdmFubar1anyone havving connections issues to sites?Apr 02 08:32
techrights-newsMicrosoft does the same thing at a bigger scale https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/amazon-google-busted-faking-small-business-opposition-to-antitrust-reform/Apr 02 08:32
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techrights-news"Progressives hailed Friday's unionization vote by employees at an Amazon warehouse in New York City as a historic victory for workers across the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/win-workers-across-america-amazon-union-victory-inspires-progressivesApr 02 08:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Win for Workers Across America': Amazon Union Victory Inspires ProgressivesApr 02 08:33
techrights-newsThe 'democrats' keep failing the working class https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/disgusting-democratic-aligned-firm-slammed-working-amazons-failed-anti-union-effortApr 02 08:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Disgusting': Democratic-Aligned Firm Slammed for Working on Amazon's Failed Anti-Union EffortApr 02 08:34
techrights-news"Amazon warehouse workers in Staten Island, New York won their election Friday to form the retail giant's first-ever union in the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/david-beats-goliath-workers-new-york-vote-form-amazons-first-ever-union-usApr 02 08:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'David Beats Goliath': Workers in New York Vote to Form Amazon's First-Ever Union in USApr 02 08:34
AdmFubar1https://www.windowscentral.com/us-senators-call-out-lack-accountability-bobby-kotick-microsoft-dealApr 02 08:47
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AdmFubar1https://www.windowscentral.com/activision-blizzard-employees-walkout-over-lifting-vaccine-mandatesApr 02 08:47
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AdmFubar1and why are they doing this??? (cause they are desperate!)   https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-doubles-down-its-android-and-windows-efforts-latest-reorgApr 02 08:48
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AdmFubar1and I bet you thought crypto mining was a waste...https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-acquires-minit-help-businesses-improve-efficiency-through-process-miningApr 02 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft acquires Minit to help businesses improve efficiency through process mining | Windows CentralApr 02 08:49
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schestowitz-TRAdmFubar1: those idiots were led to think other people put them at riskApr 02 09:00
schestowitz-TRthose current vaccines do not curb the spreadApr 02 09:00
schestowitz-TRthey try to impose things on colleaguesApr 02 09:00
schestowitz-TRnot because they care about those colleaguesApr 02 09:00
schestowitz-TRbut because pfizer told them lies about the jabs preventing the spreadApr 02 09:01
schestowitz-TRI see people are still reluctant to abandon that lieApr 02 09:01
schestowitz-TRif people catch it and dieApr 02 09:01
schestowitz-TRthat's their problemApr 02 09:01
schestowitz-TRthey are just jealousApr 02 09:01
schestowitz-TRthat they got unwellApr 02 09:01
schestowitz-TRand colleagues didn'tApr 02 09:02
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163265Apr 02 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesApr 02 09:02
schestowitz-TRanyway, good to see warren opposingf the takeoverApr 02 09:04
schestowitz-TRI was worried she was ignoring MicrosoftApr 02 09:04
schestowitz-TRpartly because she had hired a Microsofter or twoApr 02 09:04
schestowitz-TRbut seems she's still awareApr 02 09:04
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schestowitz-TRfor the wrong reasons thoughApr 02 09:04
schestowitz-TRsomething about worker protectiondsApr 02 09:04
schestowitz-TRrather than Microsoft being a bunch of criminalsApr 02 09:04
schestowitz-TRan issue she never speaks aboutApr 02 09:04
bnchsare they really walking out because a single rule being lifted?Apr 02 09:06
bnchssurely you would do the oppositeApr 02 09:06
bnchsno they like rulesApr 02 09:06
schestowitz-TRthey should work from homeApr 02 09:06
schestowitz-TRbetter for the planetApr 02 09:06
schestowitz-TRbut they should not work for Microsoft, ritherApr 02 09:06
schestowitz-TR*eitherApr 02 09:07
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft= crimeApr 02 09:07
AdmFubar1I need to go to bed... nights allApr 02 09:07
schestowitz-TRworking for Microsoft=advancing crimeApr 02 09:07
activelowgnApr 02 09:07
bnchsthey literally protest against the removal of the vaccine mandateApr 02 09:07
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar1: 0/Apr 02 09:07
bnchsits like this shit has dug deep into their headsApr 02 09:07
schestowitz-TRif they don't want to get infected, they should work from homeApr 02 09:08
schestowitz-TRcompelling colleagues to do things won't protect themApr 02 09:08
bnchswell yeah butApr 02 09:08
bnchsyou want everyone to take the magic serumApr 02 09:08
bnchseven going against companies that try to lift the mandateApr 02 09:09
bnchspfizer shillsApr 02 09:09
bnchsif less people take the vaccine, then less profitsApr 02 09:09
activelowapril, temperatures dropped 15degC, snowfallApr 02 09:10
schestowitz-TRmerry xmas, activelowApr 02 09:11
activelowthe lockdown and energy sanctions had an effect to say the lest: "nuclear winter"Apr 02 09:11
schestowitz-TRlolApr 02 09:11
bnchsanyway the microsoft/minit dealApr 02 09:11
bnchsare they gonna put cryptominers in windows?Apr 02 09:12
activelowit's real, a theory, projecting if global industry collapsed for one or another reason, then tempertures decline dramaticallyApr 02 09:12
activelowas far as "climate change" was concerned, there you have itApr 02 09:12
activelowit isn't a long-term trend which couldn't be altered; and it was alot more than 1.5degC, closter to 15degC global heatingApr 02 09:13
techrights-newsHe also paid TechDirt, which is extremely problematic ttps://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/its-time-for-charles-koch-to-testify-about-his-climate-disinformation-campaign/Apr 02 09:13
techrights-newsNitrux 2.1 Released with Support for Linux Kernel 5.17, Latest KDE Plasma Goodies • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163266Apr 02 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nitrux 2.1 Released with Support for Linux Kernel 5.17, Latest KDE Plasma Goodies | Tux MachinesApr 02 09:13
bnchshow well will this work with nvidia's driversApr 02 09:13
bnchsas you may know, nvidia likes to "fight cryptomining" by limiting the "hashrate" (aka the power) of their GPUApr 02 09:14
bnchswith their PROPRIETARY driversApr 02 09:14
activelowbetter idea: don't produce and sell such crapApr 02 09:14
bnchsits retardedApr 02 09:15
activelowthe latest "innovation" from Nvidia was some 480watts GPU, $1999Apr 02 09:15
bnchs1) make good powerful GPUApr 02 09:15
bnchs2) you hate cryptominingApr 02 09:15
bnchs3) write your driver to limit half of the powerApr 02 09:15
bnchsor 3) detect cryptomining software and throttle powerApr 02 09:16
bnchsthis is how they do itApr 02 09:16
activelowit is neither mining nor crypto anywayApr 02 09:17
schestowitz-TRrightApr 02 09:19
schestowitz-TRit's a cultApr 02 09:20
schestowitz-TR"look how much worthless stuff i ran"Apr 02 09:20
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schestowitz-TR"i feel rich now"Apr 02 09:20
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techrights-newsHete speech is "woke" now? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/violettas-scars-how-russophobia-became-the-wokest-form-of-racism/Apr 02 09:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Violetta's Scars: How Russophobia Became the Wokest Form of Racism - CounterPunch.orgApr 02 09:22
bnchsi'm more about the driver's ability to detect if you're running X softwareApr 02 09:22
bnchsand throttle the power Apr 02 09:22
bnchsthey could extend this to anything they dont likeApr 02 09:23
techrights-newsTrasparency and Journalism https://fair.org/home/sarah-lipton-lubet-on-ginni-thomas-conflict-dave-maass-on-trasparency-and-journalism/Apr 02 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Sarah Lipton-Lubet on Ginni Thomas Conflict, Dave Maass on Trasparency and Journalism - FAIRApr 02 09:23
activelowbnchs: the opensource nouveau drivers for nvidia were rather good, with some older nvidia cardsApr 02 09:26
bnchsyeahApr 02 09:33
techrights-newsLies. The employment rates went down significantly. https://truthout.org/articles/march-employment-growth-closes-in-on-pre-pandemic-levels/Apr 02 09:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | March Employment Growth Closes in on Pre-Pandemic LevelsApr 02 09:33
techrights-newsRacism is the new "woke"? https://truthout.org/articles/anti-russian-bigotry-increases-in-the-us-and-beyond-amid-putins-war-on-ukraine/Apr 02 09:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Anti-Russian Bigotry Increases in the US and Beyond Amid Putin’s War on UkraineApr 02 09:34
techrights-newsThey on;y fund bombing people, not saving people https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/covid-funding-debate/Apr 02 09:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Congress Drags Its Feet on Funding Covid Care | The NationApr 02 09:35
techrights-newsThe state: racism is bad, mmkay? You're only permitted to be racist towards people whom the state designates so.Apr 02 09:37
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techrights-newsTwitter is a hate speech machine. It promotes hate. It profits from hate. But Twitter is "authorised" by the state, so that's allowable...Apr 02 09:39
techrights-newsThey use Russia and COVID as pretext/excuse to steal even more https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/sanders-hold-hearing-how-corporate-greed-and-profiteering-are-fueling-inflationApr 02 09:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders to Hold Hearing on 'How Corporate Greed and Profiteering Are Fueling Inflation'Apr 02 09:39
techrights-news"As prices increase, corporate profits hit a record high of nearly $3 trillion in 2021, up 25% in a single year." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/sanders-hold-hearing-how-corporate-greed-and-profiteering-are-fueling-inflationApr 02 09:40
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techrights-news"I cannot see how abolishing the Constitution would be compatible with EU law.” https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/01/acting-intelligently-the-hungarian-legal-way EU constantly abolishes many constitutions. See UPC.Apr 02 09:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: "I cannot see how abolishing the Constitution would be compatible with EU law.”Apr 02 09:41
techrights-newsOverpopulation crisis https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/climate-change-ukraine-food-shortage/Apr 02 09:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | You Can’t Isolate the Food Crisis From the Climate Crisis | The NationApr 02 09:44
techrights-newsFights over things like races again distract from the way oligarchs attack society https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/01/50-groups-decry-gop-senators-insidious-attacks-ketanji-brown-jacksonApr 02 09:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 50+ Groups Decry GOP Senators' 'Insidious' Attacks on Ketanji Brown JacksonApr 02 09:45
techrights-newsThe corporate media is guilty of hate speech; now we have a culture where racism is "social justice" https://truthout.org/articles/anti-russian-bigotry-increases-in-the-us-and-beyond-amid-putins-war-on-ukraine/Apr 02 09:47
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techrights-newsCensorship of literature https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-book-censorship-is-an-attack-on-the-minds-of-children/Apr 02 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Right-Wing Book Censorship Is an Attack on the Minds of ChildrenApr 02 09:49
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techrights-newsStop using mobile 'phones' if you value your privacy https://digit.site36.net/2022/04/01/mobile-phone-as-a-tracking-bug-german-police-use-geofence-warrants-with-google-maps/Apr 02 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Mobile phone as a tracking bug: German police now use geofence warrants with Google Maps – Matthias MonroyApr 02 09:49
techrights-news"One year ago today, the Supreme Court handed down a decision in FCC v. Prometheus Radio Project" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/fcc-inaction-on-media-consolidation-continues-on-anniversary-of-prometheus-ruling-to-run-on-april-1/Apr 02 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FCC Inaction On Media Consolidation Continues On Anniversary Of Prometheus Ruling | TechdirtApr 02 09:52
techrights-newsTrump blocked me in Twitter. He never ever valued free speech. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/01/trump-isnt-concerned-about-free-speech-just-a-free-audience/Apr 02 09:52
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techrights-news"Authored by Senator Bob Wieckowski, S.B. 1189 requires private entities to obtain your opt-in consent before collecting your biometric information." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/california-speak-biometric-and-student-privacyApr 02 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | California: Speak Up For Biometric and Student Privacy | Electronic Frontier FoundationApr 02 09:53
techrights-news"appearance in the Oscar broadcast did little to bolster either ratings or any connection between the movie moguls and the plain and trusting folk of the Heartland, that is, the people meant to worship the stars and pay their salaries at the box office or, increasingly, through streaming service subscriptions." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/bondage-at-the-oscars/Apr 02 09:54
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techrights-newsReject Hollywood. It's crap. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/fly-on-the-wall-the-slap/Apr 02 09:56
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techrights-news"Fast forward six years and there is still no serious third-party challenge to the current duopoly" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/the-corporatocracy-will-have-a-tough-choice-between-biden-and-desantis/Apr 02 09:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Corporatocracy Will Have a Tough Choice Between Biden and DeSantis - CounterPunch.orgApr 02 09:59
techrights-news"Loneliness is a symptom of our greater culture of disconnect, and toxic American individualism. And, as with many problems (like food and housing insecurity), the pandemic has exacerbated the preexisting issues of disconnect in our society." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/01/why-the-u-s-culture-of-colonial-extraction-is-making-people-sick-and-destroying-the-planet/Apr 02 10:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why the U.S. Culture of Colonial Extraction Is Making People Sick and Destroying the Planet - CounterPunch.orgApr 02 10:00
techrights-newsAvoid GulagTube. DO NOT upload anything there. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/1/on_contact_chris_hedges_youtube_russiaApr 02 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | “Disappeared”: Chris Hedges Responds to YouTube Deleting His 6-Year Archive of RT America Shows | Democracy Now!Apr 02 10:05
techrights-newsUK is 'slow-cooking' journalists. Same as Saudi Barbaria, but the cooking is a lot slower. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/1/julian_assange_us_censorship_wedding_chrisApr 02 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Chris Hedges on Jailed WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange’s Wedding: He’s “Crumbling” in London Prison | Democracy Now!Apr 02 10:06
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techrights-news“This is a crucial victory for the public as well as Public Resource" https://www.eff.org/press/releases/publicresourceorg-can-keep-freeing-law-court-allows-posting-public-laws-andApr 02 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Public.Resource.Org Can Keep Freeing the Law: Court Allows Posting Public Laws And Regulations Online | Electronic Frontier FoundationApr 02 10:07
techrights-newsTechrights now has 40,000 pages in Gemini; we’re serving about 500,000 pages per month in gemini:// and that number generally grows over time, so we’ve become less dependent on the World Wide Web, which undid or outlived its original purpose http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/40000-pages-in-gemini/Apr 02 10:25
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DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/new-mutant-omicron-variant-xe-could-be-most-transmissible-yet-who-says/Apr 02 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | New mutant omicron variant XE could be most transmissible yet, WHO says | WGN-TVApr 02 11:09
schestowitz-TRtime for your fourth, DaemonFC. Amndement.Apr 02 11:11
techrights-newsLutris version 0.5.10 brings improved Steam Deck support but no Flatpak yet http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163249#comment-33265Apr 02 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lutris Game Manager Adds Steam Deck Support, EA Origin and Ubisoft Connect Integration | Tux MachinesApr 02 11:16
techrights-news2,000 titles officially hit for Steam Deck as Verified or Playable https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2000-titles-officially-hit-for-steam-deck-as-verified-or-playable/Apr 02 11:18
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I liked the movie "Defending Your Life". "Bob Diamond" (Rip Torn) is a defense attorney for people who have died and need to justify their existence on Earth, before moving on or not.Apr 02 11:19
DaemonFC"Once you use more than 5% of your brain, you really don't want to be on Earth anymore."Apr 02 11:19
techrights-newsPlanet SUSE. "For the past year, I’ve been posting to a private server that I was running. Now that server is offline because I need to save money and so I’ll be writing here again." https://cloudyday.tech.blog/2022/04/02/long-time-no-post/Apr 02 11:20
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techrights-news"Fedora Linux test days are events where anyone can help make sure changes in Fedora work well in an upcoming release. Fedora community members often participate, and the public is welcome at these events" https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-kernel-5-17-coreos-cloud-iot-and-audio-test-days/Apr 02 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Contribute at the Fedora Kernel 5.17, CoreOS, Cloud, IoT, and Audio test days - Fedora MagazineApr 02 11:22
techrights-newsIt needs to delete GitHub. It's proprietary software controlled by criminals (Microsoft). https://medevel.com/calories/Apr 02 11:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Calories is a free open-source CLI calories and weight trackerApr 02 11:23
DaemonFChttps://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/who-wants-nice-tall-glass-coca-colas-algorithmic-orange-juice/318760/Apr 02 11:23
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XRevan86matey: "american is actually british english with bits of canadian, spanish and german thrown in" <- It is not.Apr 02 11:33
schestowitz-TRwhat about french?Apr 02 11:43
schestowitz-TRand dutch?Apr 02 11:43
schestowitz-TRitalisn, irish..Apr 02 11:44
schestowitz-TRor maybe that's about languageApr 02 11:44
schestowitz-TRnot ethnicApr 02 11:44
techrights-newsWhere E-Mail, IRC and USENET (Even Social Control Media) Fail at Communications | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/Apr 02 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Where E-Mail, IRC and USENET (Even Social Control Media) Fail at Communications | TechrightsApr 02 11:44
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DaemonFChttps://www.fox32chicago.com/news/escaped-flamingo-from-kansas-zoo-spotted-in-texasApr 02 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Flamingo that escaped Kansas zoo 17 years ago spotted in TexasApr 02 11:53
DaemonFCPrison break!Apr 02 11:53
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schestowitz-TRvery very important news!!Apr 02 12:29
schestowitz-TR150 million unemployed adultsApr 02 12:29
schestowitz-TR"look, Flamingo!!"Apr 02 12:29
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mateyinteresting fernhout link http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/00/12/19/101620.HTMApr 02 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.welchco.com | 001219 Paul Fernhout worries technology causes complexity; focuses on values.Apr 02 13:05
mateya bit unwieldyApr 02 13:05
schestowitz-TRi don;t know him...Apr 02 13:05
schestowitz-TRthe page says all rights reservesApr 02 13:05
schestowitz-TRthe video says ccApr 02 13:06
schestowitz-TRone is wrongApr 02 13:06
schestowitz-TR*reservedApr 02 13:06
schestowitz-TRwhich rights?Apr 02 13:06
mateythe page says all rights reserves | one is wrong <- your pages say no-derivs and by-saApr 02 13:06
schestowitz-TRpublicity rights?Apr 02 13:06
mateybut as far as a.r.r. vs cc theyre not mutually exclusive (even if they should be)Apr 02 13:07
schestowitz-TRno, my page says all rights reservedApr 02 13:07
schestowitz-TRthe video itself says CCApr 02 13:07
mateymy page says all rights reserved <- since when?Apr 02 13:07
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matey http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/ "Content is available under CC-BY-SA"Apr 02 13:08
mateythats what your page saysApr 02 13:08
mateyby the way, i said that stavrous website needs to specify which by-sa it uses. it does-- 4.0-- on another pageApr 02 13:08
mateybut as far as a.r.r. vs ccApr 02 13:09
mateyif you find one of lessigs books at the library (given that he founded cc)Apr 02 13:09
mateyor one of doctorowsApr 02 13:09
matey(cory)Apr 02 13:09
mateyyoull see that traditional publishers use both "all rights reserved" and cc licenses on cc-licensed booksApr 02 13:10
mateythey shouldnt imo, but it does not affect the status of the cc licenseApr 02 13:10
mateyyou can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license.Apr 02 13:11
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schestowitz-TR[13:08] <matey> thats what your page saysApr 02 13:11
schestowitz-TRahaApr 02 13:11
schestowitz-TRyesApr 02 13:11
mateyyou can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license <- otherwise, you must conclude that lessigs cc-licensed books are not cc-licensedApr 02 13:11
schestowitz-TRso there are three places that state licnece: site, post, and videoApr 02 13:12
schestowitz-TRmy videos are non-derivApr 02 13:12
schestowitz-TRbtwApr 02 13:12
schestowitz-TRdid you see my remark earlier?Apr 02 13:12
schestowitz-TRabout walshApr 02 13:12
mateyabout walsh?Apr 02 13:12
mateyill checkApr 02 13:12
schestowitz-TR[08:20] <schestowitz-TR> matey (away): walsh in chargeApr 02 13:13
schestowitz-TR[08:21] <schestowitz-TR> "First, CC is excited to announce that longtime CC staffer, Kat Walsh, has been promoted to CC General Counsel. Kat was on the CC legal team from 2012-2015 during the drafting and initial publication process of version 4.0 of the license suite. She returned to CC in 2021 as Deputy General Counsel. Kat has a nearly 20-year history in the free and open culture movements, including many years on the boards of the Apr 02 13:13
schestowitz-TRWikimedia Foundation and the Apr 02 13:13
schestowitz-TR[08:21] <schestowitz-TR> Free Software Foundation, and has previously worked in library policy, technology startups, and online community management. She is an advocate for free access to knowledge and for CC licensing as part of the infrastructure for an internet that belongs to everyone. As General Counsel, she oversees the legal support for all aspects of CC’s activities, provides strategic input, leads the stewardship of CC’s legal Apr 02 13:13
schestowitz-TRtools, and advises the Apr 02 13:13
schestowitz-TR[08:21] <schestowitz-TR> organization on new programmatic initiatives."Apr 02 13:13
schestowitz-TR https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/01/congratulations-and-farewell/Apr 02 13:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Congratulations and Farewell - Creative CommonsApr 02 13:13
mateyFirst, CC is excited to announce that longtime CC staffer, Kat Walsh, has been promoted to CC General Counsel.Apr 02 13:14
mateyso basically shes to cc what eben was to fsfApr 02 13:14
mateycc is a defunct organisation, they stand for nothing at allApr 02 13:15
mateycompromise first and lies secondApr 02 13:15
mateymike linksvayer was (imo) the only person who could have saved themApr 02 13:15
mateyi dont like him, he was nonetheless rightApr 02 13:16
mateyjesus christ, he moved to github!Apr 02 13:17
mateyMike Linksvayer is an intellectual freedom and commons proponent, known as a technology entrepreneur, developer and activist from co-founding Bitzi and leadership of Creative Commons.[1][2] He is GitHub's Policy Director.Apr 02 13:17
mateyhes what?Apr 02 13:17
schestowitz-TRlolApr 02 13:17
schestowitz-TRcopilot of billApr 02 13:18
mateyadds another dimension to why he signedApr 02 13:18
schestowitz-TRoh, did he?Apr 02 13:19
schestowitz-TRwaslsh opposed rmsApr 02 13:19
schestowitz-TRcc alsoApr 02 13:19
schestowitz-TRnow one of them works for the criminals (microsoft)Apr 02 13:19
matey waslsh opposed rms <- but theres is nothing public stating thatApr 02 13:20
schestowitz-TRnoApr 02 13:20
mateyshe resigned among a bunch of people, and thats allApr 02 13:20
schestowitz-TRbut i hear soApr 02 13:20
mateywell, when you hear what she opposed him on, let me knowApr 02 13:20
schestowitz-TRi heard it from a reliable sourceApr 02 13:21
mateyi wouldnt be surprised if she opposed him on a license matterApr 02 13:21
mateyand not even wrt softwareApr 02 13:21
schestowitzcovered here https://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/Apr 02 13:21
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mateyas the fsf promotes non-free licenses on grounds i consider handwavy, revisionist and special-pleading...ishApr 02 13:22
matey covered here https://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/ <- ill bet you theres no details there.Apr 02 13:22
mateyabout kat leavingApr 02 13:22
schestowitzshe is also mentioned in http://techrights.org/2020/11/18/orgs-dilemma/ http://techrights.org/2021/01/10/alex-oliva-fsf-departure/  http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ian-kelling-fsf-board-of-directors/  http://techrights.org/2020/07/19/fsf-and-rms-lead/Apr 02 13:22
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schestowitz-TRfrom memory:Apr 02 13:23
schestowitz-TRthey did a votingApr 02 13:23
schestowitz-TRthe voting membersApr 02 13:23
schestowitz-TRwho include rms and olivaApr 02 13:23
mateyyesApr 02 13:23
schestowitz-TRand she was the one who opposes his returnApr 02 13:23
schestowitz-TR*opposedApr 02 13:24
mateythats a shameApr 02 13:24
schestowitz-TRso she resigned, I thinkApr 02 13:24
schestowitz-TRand said so publiclyApr 02 13:24
mateythat means she supports his ousting on illegitimate (fraudulent) groundsApr 02 13:24
mateyand this is a counsel for ccApr 02 13:24
mateyalready was, now general counsel (deputy before)Apr 02 13:24
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mateyi would have supported his ousting (as president only) on HONEST groundsApr 02 13:25
mateybut that probably wouldnt have been enough to oust him. so be it-- i never supported ousting him on dishonest grounds.Apr 02 13:25
mateyand ever since they did, ive called for him to be reinstated, because you dont oust founders based on bullshit.Apr 02 13:25
mateythe ousting should be null and voidApr 02 13:26
mateyi cosnider it fraud.Apr 02 13:26
mateyif she wants to support fraud as general counsel, whateverApr 02 13:26
mateygood lawyers are few and far betweenApr 02 13:26
mateykat owes much of her career to lessig, who cites rmsApr 02 13:27
mateyher career, mind youApr 02 13:27
mateylessig never tried to oust himApr 02 13:27
mateyim not saying she wouldnt have a career without either of themApr 02 13:27
mateyim saying she wouldnt have the one she has nowApr 02 13:27
mateyshe might be a successful counsel in some other fieldApr 02 13:27
mateythose two CREATED the field she works in, basically.Apr 02 13:27
mateyits ridiculous. as ridiculous as esr.Apr 02 13:28
mateymaybe she should be the general counsel for him.Apr 02 13:28
mateybut whatever, one among thousands. just a fairly ridiculous exampleApr 02 13:28
mateyi consider it a fraud.Apr 02 13:29
mateyslander, libel, special pleading, double standards and hypocrisy.Apr 02 13:29
schestowitz-TRto climbApr 02 13:29
mateybut you dont sue a lynch mob.Apr 02 13:29
mateyyou might wonder, i think she might, why i never bring your admin into thisApr 02 13:31
mateythere are two or three reasonsApr 02 13:31
matey1. it serves no goal of mine 2. shes one of the few (the only one i know) that unsigned 3. shes one of the few that explained her actions directlyApr 02 13:32
mateyany one of these counts, but together they count for moreApr 02 13:32
mateyi dont have much to say about it-- except that i dont have much to say about it.Apr 02 13:32
mateythe only one i know <- i know there are others, but im not familiar with them.Apr 02 13:33
schestowitz-TRI'm finalisign a pos related to thisApr 02 13:33
schestowitz-TR*postApr 02 13:33
mateyimo you need additional reasons TO criticise someone who unsigned. by default they should be left out of the whole thing, unless theres good reason not toApr 02 13:34
mateyand its already a given that some who signed didnt know wtf they were doing. no one has to explain that to me.Apr 02 13:34
mateybut you know, if you didnt know what you were doing... there are a FEW easy fixesApr 02 13:34
mateyif you cant unsign for some technical reason, you can still you know, talk about itApr 02 13:35
mateyI'm finalisign a pos related to this <- ill say a little prayer it doesnt make things worseApr 02 13:36
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mateyschestowitz__ figosdev no longer writes for us. On many things I agree with him, but it always disturbed me that he urged you to step down Jan 04 11:34 <- youre never going to be forgiven for thatApr 02 13:37
mateytom said: "Not only is it ancient history, with no bearing on the present, but you had fully explained the context previously. For him to bring this up now is simply a smear"Apr 02 13:38
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mateyyou knew it wasnt true.Apr 02 13:38
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schestowitz-TRmatey: the way I remember itApr 02 13:39
matey"Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." - Richard Stallman https://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/Apr 02 13:39
schestowitz-TRputting aside minor pointsApr 02 13:39
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schestowitz-TRjohns (I think) was 'lobbying' RMSApr 02 13:39
schestowitz-TRand he viewed your articles as hostile to himApr 02 13:40
schestowitz-TRI think you called him some names at some pointApr 02 13:40
mateylike i care what johnsu thinksApr 02 13:40
schestowitz-TRRMS did not budgeApr 02 13:40
schestowitz-TRanyway, johns is also outApr 02 13:40
mateylol, you brought him upApr 02 13:40
matey I think you called him some names at some point <- yes, i was told he was supporting the coup by a source that should be reliableApr 02 13:41
mateyso i called him some namesApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRyeahApr 02 13:41
mateyso whatApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRmany people leftApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRseveral joinedApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRthe new joiners we know very little aboutApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TR3 of themApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRbut I hope they didn't vet more walshesApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRwho can turn around at any timeApr 02 13:41
schestowitz-TRbecause rms sexist something...Apr 02 13:42
mateywalsh is an example of something that goes with the territoryApr 02 13:42
mateytheres no sort of vetting that can prevent that happeningApr 02 13:42
schestowitz-TRwhich isn't even based on actual solid evidence; the opposite is more trueApr 02 13:42
mateythere are only oathsApr 02 13:42
mateyand im very critical of the oaths that already exist-- theyre a farce for one thing, and they are regressiveApr 02 13:42
schestowitz-TRthey can go by track recordApr 02 13:42
mateywhich isn't even based on actual solid evidence; the opposite is more true <- exactlyApr 02 13:42
schestowitz-TRsome people broke my 'heart' ove the yearsApr 02 13:43
schestowitz-TRdefected to enemy territoriesApr 02 13:43
mateymy favourite defence of him is still the one from nadine strossenApr 02 13:43
schestowitz-TRspamnil, sjvm, even microbell more recentlyApr 02 13:43
mateythats a gemApr 02 13:43
mateyeven microbell more recently <- i gave on microbell a long time agoApr 02 13:43
mateybasically i gave him a chance, and that was thatApr 02 13:43
schestowitz-TRtoo manyu product adsApr 02 13:43
schestowitz-TRand now we have evidence of the payment, tooApr 02 13:43
mateytoo much crap altogetherApr 02 13:43
mateyand now we have evidence of the payment, too <- classicApr 02 13:44
schestowitz-TRhe presented it himselfApr 02 13:44
schestowitz-TRshowing oiff crates of expensive CPUsApr 02 13:44
mateythat was his method of disclosure? Apr 02 13:44
schestowitz-TRa paiur or 4? OK.Apr 02 13:44
mateyim curious just how many cpus he gotApr 02 13:45
schestowitz-TRbut when you get a whole house to do some puff pieces, you went too farApr 02 13:45
mateyi mean "crates" could be an exaggeration-- im not saying it isApr 02 13:45
mateybut it only says "its a lot"Apr 02 13:45
schestowitz-TRand not any cpusApr 02 13:45
schestowitz-TRthose are worth like $5000 eachApr 02 13:45
mateyexpensive onesApr 02 13:45
mateyrightApr 02 13:45
schestowitz-TRused to be over 10000 each when newApr 02 13:45
mateyso like-- millions of dollars in cpus or something?Apr 02 13:45
schestowitz-TRthat's one thingApr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TRyou then look at rthe "content"Apr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TRand see full brochures for those companiesApr 02 13:46
mateyi dont even understand how he got that much "clout" with amd in the first placeApr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TReven when it's not about LinuxApr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TRintel does the sameApr 02 13:46
mateylike hes a big name sort ofApr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TRhe also showed an intel crateApr 02 13:46
mateybut millions of dollars big?Apr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TRthe money isn't the issueApr 02 13:46
schestowitz-TRbut proportionality Apr 02 13:47
mateythe money helps quantify the issueApr 02 13:47
schestowitz-TRand then objectivity in reportingApr 02 13:47
mateyi mean when theres a bribe... quantifying it in money is part of the storyApr 02 13:47
mateybecause its the only sense of scale most readers would graspApr 02 13:48
mateyi have no idea what he got, in terms of quantityApr 02 13:48
schestowitz-TR[13:17] <matey> Mike Linksvayer is an intellectual freedom and commons proponent, known as a technology entrepreneur, developer and activist from co-founding Bitzi and leadership of Creative Commons.[1][2] He is GitHub's Policy Director.Apr 02 13:48
schestowitz-TRmoney comes in many formsApr 02 13:48
schestowitz-TRin past, present, futureApr 02 13:48
mateyoh i knowApr 02 13:48
mateygithub bribes people with free hostingApr 02 13:48
schestowitz-TRthose racks can be sold laterApr 02 13:48
mateyin return, they gain control Apr 02 13:48
schestowitz-TRnot just free hostingApr 02 13:48
mateybut waitApr 02 13:49
schestowitz-TR'free' clown cyclesApr 02 13:49
schestowitz-TRgithub ACTIONSApr 02 13:49
mateygnu develops (too many) say its NOT control!Apr 02 13:49
schestowitz-TRthere are other 'perks'Apr 02 13:49
mateytheyre just providing "mirrors" that development "moves" toApr 02 13:49
schestowitz-TRnot fictional ones like 'arctic vault'Apr 02 13:49
mateythey shouldnt stop with arctic vault. they should recreate the defunct aricebo dish and beam everyones code out into spaceApr 02 13:50
mateyso extraterrestrials can file issues and submit pull requestsApr 02 13:50
mateywhy not?Apr 02 13:51
schestowitz-TRmars vaultApr 02 13:51
mateymars vault!Apr 02 13:51
schestowitz-TRfor extra feeApr 02 13:51
schestowitz-TRbuy land in mars. click here to learn more.Apr 02 13:51
mateyfree with x amount of stars on your accountApr 02 13:51
schestowitz-TRlunar githubApr 02 13:51
schestowitz-TRbuy disk space hosted and cooled on the moonApr 02 13:51
schestowitz-TRwith bezos walking all over itApr 02 13:52
mateybuy land in mars <- and when you get there* you see there are already squatters on your martian property, leading to ownership disputes on the martian court system*Apr 02 13:52
matey* lolApr 02 13:52
schestowitz-TRmaybe they call sell "followers"Apr 02 13:52
schestowitz-TRswapnil would buy seveal unitsApr 02 13:52
schestowitz-TRmaybe with 200,000 "subescribers" instead of 20,000 his NEW video will get 70 views per weekApr 02 13:53
schestowitz-TRnot just 7Apr 02 13:53
mateyswapnil, with crates full of apple m1Apr 02 13:53
mateycoming soonApr 02 13:53
schestowitz-TRhe showed off buying a macApr 02 13:53
schestowitz-TRthen tweeted in anger he had to reboot every dayApr 02 13:53
schestowitz-TRafter paying like $`15,000Apr 02 13:53
mateythe mac runs linux though (happy birthday gnu)Apr 02 13:54
schestowitz-TRlast saturday I bought a new laptop for 205 poundsApr 02 13:54
schestowitz-TRit's a short walking distance from home, toApr 02 13:54
schestowitz-TRtooApr 02 13:54
matey then tweeted in anger he had to reboot every day <- i wonder whyApr 02 13:54
schestowitz-TR10-15 minsApr 02 13:54
schestowitz-TRmatey: "you're holding it wrong"Apr 02 13:55
schestowitz-TRMinceR loves that likeApr 02 13:55
schestowitz-TRJobs about hypePhone antennaApr 02 13:55
schestowitz-TRblame the customerApr 02 13:55
schestowitz-TRjust cheked my xfce laptop, uptime 118 daysApr 02 13:56
mateyyou wouldnt believe mineApr 02 13:56
mateysame digitsApr 02 13:57
schestowitz-TRohApr 02 13:57
matey181 daysApr 02 13:57
mateyjsut checkedApr 02 13:57
schestowitz-TRsocially awkward penguin memeApr 02 13:57
mateymaybe this one:Apr 02 13:57
mateyhttps://memegenerator.net/Socially-Awkward-To-Awesome-PenguinApr 02 14:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memegenerator.net | Socially Awkward to Awesome Penguin | Meme GeneratorApr 02 14:00
*schestowitz-TR doing meme of zemlin slapping torvaldsApr 02 14:01
mateydoing meme of zemlin slapping torvalds <- topicalApr 02 14:01
schestowitz-TRyou know the emplateApr 02 14:01
schestowitz-TRsmith rockApr 02 14:02
mateyactually i have paid very little attentionApr 02 14:02
schestowitz-TRwait, I have a better ideaApr 02 14:02
mateyi found three videos about it literally while looking for footage of news anchors from 20 years agoApr 02 14:02
mateyin the same resultsApr 02 14:02
mateybut it was worth it, just to see that people were saying "paper beats rock"Apr 02 14:03
mateyi dont know who can top thatApr 02 14:03
schestowitz-TRpaperApr 02 14:06
schestowitz-TRStoner beats ChrisApr 02 14:06
mateyGetty charges almost $1,200 for widely used meme, Socially Awkward PenguinApr 02 14:10
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mateyhttps://hackaday.io/project/98837-8-bit-portable-internet-enabled-computerApr 02 14:25
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kingoffrance"you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license"'   that sounds to me like "this is xyz licensed but i retain a private 'copy' (or 'original') that can be licensed (or not) however" ?    i.e. they are 2 separate "works" (terminology may be wrong, 2 separate instances from the same work perhaps).    "otherwise, you must conclude that lessigs cc-licensed books are not cc-licensed"   yeah, seems an instance isApr 02 14:25
kingoffrance one or the other          "you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license."  makes sense, it should not be "in the same place" is the confusionApr 02 14:25
kingoffranceif above is correct, yes they should know betterApr 02 14:26
schestowitz-TRall rights reserved, but where?Apr 02 14:26
schestowitz-TRwhich rights?Apr 02 14:26
matey"This article (https://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP-NG/http-prob.html) by Simon E Spero shows that HTTP is a slow and inefficient internet protocol. Most of the time, HTTP is waiting. The slow start to HTTP connections hurts performance, and slows down the Round Trip Time (RTT)."Apr 02 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | Analysis of HTTP Performance ProblemsApr 02 14:26
schestowitz-TRmatey: simplyApr 02 14:26
schestowitz-TRmake pages one fileApr 02 14:26
mateysureApr 02 14:27
schestowitz-TRand the problem mostly goes awayApr 02 14:27
mateyyes but after you do thatApr 02 14:27
schestowitz-TRgemini take minisecs to loadApr 02 14:27
mateyhttp is still slowApr 02 14:27
schestowitz-TRthe latency is at the routing levelApr 02 14:27
mateyin other words it could be faster (if it were a different protocol)Apr 02 14:27
schestowitz-TRSPDY Gonzeles GulagApr 02 14:27
schestowitz-TRzalesApr 02 14:28
mateyi wasnt thinking of spdyApr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TRnow known as HTTP/3 iirApr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TRlike webp and jpeg2000Apr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TRthey try to make proprietary things seem more openApr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TReven trash is now 'standardised'Apr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TRand DRMApr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TRthey just fornalised thoseApr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TROOXMlApr 02 14:28
matey<kingoffrance>  one or the other          "you can ignore "all rights reserved" when you see it in the same place as a cc license."  makes sense, it should not be "in the same place" is the confusion <- all rights reserved can be retracted and negatedApr 02 14:28
schestowitz-TR"open"Apr 02 14:28
mateybut a cc license cannoyApr 02 14:28
mateycannotApr 02 14:29
mateyi think all rights reserved + cc license is an unintended "dual license"Apr 02 14:29
mateybut either way, saying "all rights reserved" has never outweighed other license requirements / rightsApr 02 14:29
mateyits not a license, its just a copyright noticeApr 02 14:30
kingoffranceyes, "all rights reserved" is talking  seems is about the "author's" rights, not the work per seApr 02 14:30
mateybut i still think its weird to put both. lawyers.Apr 02 14:30
kingoffrance^^^Apr 02 14:30
mateythe real confusion begins with ccs whimsical take on a.r.r. "some rights reserved"Apr 02 14:30
mateybut thats more marketing than legally binding, it creates confusionApr 02 14:31
kingoffranceyou can put comments in a box the sov citizens say.  and then someone like me says oh look a hieroglyphic lol noone agrees lolApr 02 14:31
schestowitz-TRor assuming unlabeled is public domainApr 02 14:31
matey or assuming unlabeled is public domain <- as it was until 1976/78Apr 02 14:31
schestowitz-TRif we were PD people could scrape the whole site, repost, then change the articles themselvesApr 02 14:31
mateyin the states at leastApr 02 14:31
schestowitz-TRto say something the originals did not sayApr 02 14:31
matey if we were PD people could scrape the whole site, repost, then change the articles themselves <- they can still do that, but they must cite (per the license)Apr 02 14:32
techrights-news"This 5-minute talk, which covers “information overload”, “algorithms that may stoke outrage” and a few more things is Paul Fernhout’s take on tools that are inherently immoral or problematic; we need less, not more, and better, according to Fernhout." http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/social-control-media-pitfalls/Apr 02 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Where E-Mail, IRC and USENET (Even Social Control Media) Fail at Communications | TechrightsApr 02 14:33
mateythere are also widely accepted standards and practices that are not required by copyrightApr 02 14:34
mateyfor example, in academia its not enough to follow the license, there are other expectations on top of this for a "scholarly work"Apr 02 14:35
kingoffrancewell i agree its weird. a license is a "under these conditions, i relinquish some rights".   so any license is not "all rights reserved" by definitionApr 02 14:35
kingoffranceand public domain is "no rights reserved"Apr 02 14:35
mateydishes in restaurants are not under copyright but there is a "code" (honour code) among chefs, enforced by boycottApr 02 14:35
kingoffrance"all rights relinquished"Apr 02 14:35
mateyand public domain is "no rights reserved" <- technically public domain means "no rights reservable" Apr 02 14:36
techrights-newsAre we meant to assume Russia is literally Hitler now? https://wptavern.com/wordpress-org-removes-russian-pro-war-plugin-from-directoryApr 02 14:36
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kingoffranceyepApr 02 14:36
mateybut it doesnt even mean thatApr 02 14:36
mateyits really close to thatApr 02 14:36
kingoffranceexplain :)Apr 02 14:36
mateythere are rights that apply even to pd worksApr 02 14:37
mateytheyre simply tangential to (not part of) copyrightApr 02 14:37
kingoffrancewell i know for other thing there is like "you cant sell your soul" "noone can do the impossible" some things you cant give awayApr 02 14:37
mateyan example being using your likeness for certain thingsApr 02 14:37
mateyis tangential to copyrightApr 02 14:37
techrights-news"Luo Di developed the source code of an application called VirtualApp (VA) to be hosted on GitHub.com under the third version of the GNU General Public License (GPLV3). The GPL is a series of widely used free software licenses that guarantee end users the four freedoms" https://www.mondaq.com/china/patent/1175402/guangzhou-ip-court39s-top-10-exemplary-cases-of-2021Apr 02 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Guangzhou IP Court's Top 10 Exemplary Cases Of 2021 - Intellectual Property - ChinaApr 02 14:37
kingoffrancemakes senseApr 02 14:37
mateya photo can bein the public domain, the person in the photo can still sue around certain usesApr 02 14:38
mateybut certainly wrt copyright alone, pd means no rights reservedApr 02 14:39
mateyor reservableApr 02 14:39
mateyexcept in finland :)Apr 02 14:39
mateyif you have a restaurant, no chef has a monopoly on most dishesApr 02 14:40
techrights-newsLawyers rarely can code; so they look for some other ways to make money, at the expense of those who do all the actual work https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/have-you-ever-considered-an-open-source-2057520/Apr 02 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Have you ever considered an open-source audit for your organisation? | Escrow London - JDSupraApr 02 14:40
mateyyou can go find a recipe you love and add a couple touches to make it yoursApr 02 14:40
mateyno one can (or will) stop you... but...Apr 02 14:40
mateychefs have a "signature dish" which is basically theirsApr 02 14:41
mateyif you bite too much off their signature dish, every chef and restaurant owner will be against your businessApr 02 14:41
techrights-news“Mist, our middleware tool, runs in a separate process, runs concurrently with RetroArch Steam, and functions as a bridge between this separate process interfacing with Steamworks and the GPL application itself running in an entirely different process.” https://www.pcgamesn.com/emulation/retroarch-steam-deck-emulationApr 02 14:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroArch update makes Steam Deck emulation better | PCGamesNApr 02 14:41
mateyits a code, its not lawApr 02 14:41
mateythis way everyone has a right to promote themselves with their own best offering, and its basically untouchableApr 02 14:42
mateybut i can make gordan ramsays risotto and no one will care. though simply as a matter of style id probably add my own touch to it anywayApr 02 14:43
mateythats assuming i can make risotto for shit, which i cantApr 02 14:44
mateywhat you cant do (regarding copyright) is copy recipes verbatim out of a bookApr 02 14:45
mateythe process and the ingredients cant be copyrighted-- but the actual wording canApr 02 14:46
mateycc-licensed recipes then save you the trouble of rewriting the whole thingApr 02 14:46
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techrights-newsCourt erred in Neo4j ruling – Software Freedom Conservancy - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/02/court_neo4j_ruling/ ䷉ Source: theregisterApr 02 15:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Court erred in Neo4j ruling – Software Freedom Conservancy • The RegisterApr 02 15:06
schestowitz-TRSFC will drag a judge outApr 02 15:06
schestowitz-TRwith a CoCApr 02 15:06
schestowitz-TRand BY-the-CoCApr 02 15:06
techrights-newsAvergae Apple cons00mer: meh, it does not cost anything. Must be malware. https://osxdaily.com/2022/03/27/get-nano-text-editor-mac/Apr 02 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-osxdaily.com | How to Install nano Text Editor on Mac AgainApr 02 15:08
techrights-newsHow Microsofters explain GIMP: "it’s free to download and open source, making it work well with the community, and everyone can work on the source codes." https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-free-photo-editor/Apr 02 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | 5+ best free photo editors for Windows 11Apr 02 15:11
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techrights-newsThis likely a plagiarism site: "GIMP refers to GNU Image Manipulation Program and is one of the most well-known alternatives to Photoshop. The best part is GIMP is good for both beginner photo editors and advanced photo editors too." https://www.thetealmango.com/technology/8-free-alternatives-to-photoshop-in-2022/Apr 02 15:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetealmango.com | 8 Free Alternatives To Photoshop in 2022 - The Teal MangoApr 02 15:12
techrights-newsThe April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163267Apr 02 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux MachinesApr 02 15:17
techrights-newsFirst time in years that I see Matt Hartley https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page01.htmlApr 02 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 1Apr 02 15:21
matey<schestowitz-TR> SFC will drag a judge out <- which judgeApr 02 15:25
schestowitz-TRthe old oneApr 02 15:26
schestowitz-TRwho says bad thingsApr 02 15:26
schestowitz-TRand thinks wrongApr 02 15:26
mateyi think its the word "judge" (noun) that is confusing me hereApr 02 15:26
mateythere arent very many of themApr 02 15:26
mateyzero i know of with any relationship to sfcApr 02 15:27
mateyunless you mean "person who judges" which is nearly anyone, but "person who judges sfc" would narrow it downApr 02 15:27
mateyif i were sure what you meant i wouldnt askApr 02 15:28
techrights-newsGulag breaks stuff by imposing formats many platforms do not support https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page05.htmlApr 02 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 5Apr 02 15:28
matey/me wonders if pocock is retreatingApr 02 15:29
techrights-newsRepo Review: Cryptomator https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page06.Apr 02 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page06 )Apr 02 15:29
mateyim not sure, not much to go onApr 02 15:29
mateyalso when was gerwitz in a position to censor him? i wasnt aware of him ever being in charge of email at the fsfApr 02 15:30
mateyi believe someone did, i dont understand how it could be gerwitz thoughApr 02 15:30
techrights-news"GULAG'S DIALER AND MESSAGING APPS HAVE BEEN COLLECTING AND SENDING DATA TO GULAG WITHOUT SPECIFIC NOTICE OR CONSENT, possibly in violation of Europe's GDPR, according to an article on The Register." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page07.htmlApr 02 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 7Apr 02 15:31
techrights-news"I hate it when developers try to make things "simpler," especially when something has been one way for a very, very long, LONG time. That's the case with the most recent Firefox 98.0.1. Developers, in their misdirected zeal to "simplify" the download workflow, managed to ROYALLY screw it up." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202204/page09.htmlApr 02 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 9Apr 02 15:32
mateyFri 21:54:11  │ 〖bnchs〗  │ i hate when servers tell me that IP address of some domain Fri 21:54:14  │ 〖bnchs〗  │ fuck that shitApr 02 15:32
mateyhe was missing the pointApr 02 15:32
mateythe problem isnt that they do thatApr 02 15:33
mateythe problem is they often dontApr 02 15:33
mateyhe got the whole thing 180Apr 02 15:33
mateyi wasnt complaining about the internet working, but the many ways in which it fails to do soApr 02 15:33
mateyits not even a straw man, its an upside down manApr 02 15:33
mateya straw man would have been closer to what it was critiquing (if it was even right side up)Apr 02 15:34
mateyits like if you complaing above a pinto going up in flames and he saidApr 02 15:34
techrights-newsHow to Install MX Linux on Your PC ⚓ https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-mx-linux/ ䷉ Source: makeuseofApr 02 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Install MX Linux on Your PCApr 02 15:35
mateyyeah, i hate it when i get in a car and it takes me placesApr 02 15:35
mateyokayApr 02 15:35
schestowitz-TRmaybe it was poorly phrasedApr 02 15:36
schestowitz-TRI too was a little confused by thst statementApr 02 15:36
schestowitz-TR(at the time)Apr 02 15:36
schestowitz-TRtor helps obfuscate routesApr 02 15:36
matey〖XRevan86〗  │ matey: "american is actually british english with bits of canadian, spanish and german thrown in" <- It is not. <- sorry, i thought it was obvious i was being facetious, particularly since "canadian" isnt a languageApr 02 15:37
XRevan86matey: Right, I'm too used to linguistic freakery at this point.Apr 02 15:38
techrights-newsIllinois Tech alumnus Jack Dongarra wins Turi | EurekAlert! ⚓ https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/948379 ䷉ Source: eurekalert mentions GNU OctaveApr 02 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurekalert.org | Illinois Tech alumnus Jack Dongarra wins Turi | EurekAlert!Apr 02 15:38
mateyoh i sympathise, i was actually having fun with itApr 02 15:38
mateyi really do prefer facts, unless theres mysticism (directly) involvedApr 02 15:39
mateyat that point its difficult to find consensus on what "facts" would beApr 02 15:39
mateyof course speculation has a place, and when speculation remains unchallenged for the better part of a decade, upgrading to "suspicion" has a place tooApr 02 15:40
mateybut with regards to linguistics, there are reasonable and sound processes and all thatApr 02 15:40
XRevan86Naturally.Apr 02 15:41
mateyand i dont mind people speculating, provided they know "false friends" are a thing and-- its sad if theres a blatant and obvious angle behind the whole thing, eh?Apr 02 15:41
XRevan86But some people confuse their own madness with proper evidence.Apr 02 15:41
mateywell i think thats part of the nature of madness, but i agree that some people seem like they ought to know betterApr 02 15:42
techrights-newsFrom Russia with love https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/nasa_vande_hei_return/Apr 02 15:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | NASA astronaut returns to Earth on a Russian Soyuz • The RegisterApr 02 15:42
XRevan86matey: Indeed, people wouldn't be mad if they could recognise it.Apr 02 15:42
mateyat any rate, if i say anything patently ridiculous about word origins or language, its probably a joke-- or a reasonable errorApr 02 15:42
mateythis one was a jokeApr 02 15:42
mateybut given the territory, its completely understandable that you were concerned it was something else :)Apr 02 15:43
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhuNRWskgNQApr 02 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EhuNRWskgNQApr 02 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | [1435] How To Fill My Wife’s Beaver - InvidiousApr 02 15:44
matey/me wonders how far back mincers (useful) notation of multimedia urls goesApr 02 15:44
XRevan86MinceR: Not his strongest April 1st.Apr 02 15:44
MinceR:>Apr 02 15:45
MinceRhis others are linked in the descriptionApr 02 15:45
matey/me gigglesApr 02 15:46
matey/me writes in to complain that he didnt actually show how to fill it, only how to open itApr 02 15:47
mateyif theres any trick to getting the candy in, the video wont show youApr 02 15:47
mateymaybe theres a part 2Apr 02 15:47
MinceR:>Apr 02 15:50
MinceRhe also didn't show how that candy probably doesn't work with the vending mechanismApr 02 15:50
mateyit depends Apr 02 15:52
techrights-newsMicrosoft "Defender" as back doors https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sentinelone_microsoft_azure_iot/Apr 02 15:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | In detail: Bugs patched in Microsoft Azure Defender for IoT • The RegisterApr 02 15:52
mateyive seen machines like that which dispense runts, which are shown in a large bag in the videoApr 02 15:53
mateyso its quite plausibleApr 02 15:53
mateyalso nestle now owns willy wonka, so that sucksApr 02 15:54
techrights-newsPushing new buzzwords to create lots of hype https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/puppet_devops_salary/Apr 02 15:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | DevOps salaries revealed in Puppet report • The RegisterApr 02 15:54
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=TRozAbaKs9M Apr 02 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | [862] Getting Into My Wife’s Beaver (April Fools Video) - InvidiousApr 02 15:55
mateyhis wife has two beaversApr 02 15:55
techrights-newsUS taxpayers again forced to bail out or subsidise Microsoft https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/pentagon_delays_jwcc_cloud_deal/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Apr 02 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Pentagon again delays JWCC cloud mega-deal • The RegisterApr 02 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsApr 02 15:55
mateyalso nestle now owns willy wonka, so that sucks <- funny how free software is exactly like consumer brands in this regardApr 02 15:56
mateyeverything is owned by nestle and microsoftApr 02 15:56
techrights-newsCan't they just leave ARM alone? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sk_hynix_may_head_up/Apr 02 15:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | SK Hynix may head up consortium to buy Arm • The RegisterApr 02 15:56
matey"indie" music labels owned by major riaa labels, etcApr 02 15:56
matey"i liked free software before it went all mainstream" or really, before it was utterly co-optedApr 02 15:57
mateyby people who hate freedom.Apr 02 15:57
techrights-newsHow to blame VMware problems on anyone but VMware https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/log4j-malware-sophos-vmware-horizon/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2022Apr 02 15:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Log4j attacks hit remote-work tool VMware Horizon – report • The RegisterApr 02 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | VMware - TechrightsApr 02 15:59
mateynot worth the time it takes, but i still thought it was funny https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dmbpagijVkk Apr 02 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Lee Mack's Joke Leaves John Cleese In Near Tears | The Graham Norton Show - InvidiousApr 02 16:01
techrights-newsMicrosoft boosters' sites make the wrong assumption that developers are using Windows https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2022/04/01/preparing-cifar-data.aspxApr 02 16:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-visualstudiomagazine.com | Preparing CIFAR Image Data for PyTorch -- Visual Studio MagazineApr 02 16:01
techrights-newsBeing kind to people who deserve kindness is an important attribute/skill; sadly, sociopathic corporations and the tactless people they put in charge of projects/communities mostly ruin projects http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/kindness-to-the-worthy/Apr 02 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Being Nice to Each Other and Avoidance of Miscommunication | TechrightsApr 02 16:03
techrights-newsIn the so-called ‘free market’, Microsoft crime simply pays off and there's an incentive to engage in corruption (even in the future) http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/microsoft-crime-unpunished/Apr 02 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime: A Week Later No Investigation Launched, No Microsoft Executives Prosecuted, Nobody Phoned the Police, Not Even a Slap on the Wrist | TechrightsApr 02 16:03
mateythis is priceless https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f74L2hRZE1YApr 02 16:04
techrights-newsThe geeky-gadgets Web site pivots to Webspam https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/Apr 02 16:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | John Cleese Offered To Kill His Mom To Cheer Her Up | CONAN on TBS - InvidiousApr 02 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Last Minute Deal: Linux Administration Bootcamp - Geeky GadgetsApr 02 16:04
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techrights-newsCause of global warming identified https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/nvidia_releases_1999_8kcapable_geforce/Apr 02 16:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Nvidia's $1,999, 8K-capable GeForce RTX 3090 Ti GPU is out • The RegisterApr 02 16:06
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techrights-news"This week I changed vehicles and took the train again --- after a much too long period of trying to evade the plague by car (successfully so). In a nutshell, commuting by train takes quite a bit longer, but I don't need to pay much attention, so it is not as exhausting." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220402-commute-5.gmiApr 02 16:08
MinceRlol @ CleeseApr 02 16:08
bnchsjohn cheeseApr 02 16:09
MinceRthat's someone elseApr 02 16:09
techrights-newsHow to see running IP Services on Linux with ss gemini://blog.datapulp.de/how-to-see-running-ip-services-on-linux-with-ssApr 02 16:09
bnchsi will kill your mom with a heart attackApr 02 16:09
MinceRstill funny, but not as funnyApr 02 16:09
bnchsthats john cheeseApr 02 16:09
bnchsyeahApr 02 16:10
bnchsi hate how duckduckgo is biased towards microsoftApr 02 16:12
bnchseven with shit like fastcgi documentationApr 02 16:12
bnchsit brings up MS IIS crapApr 02 16:12
techrights-news"I distro hopped a lot in my early twenties. Eventually I mostly used Debian at university, Ubuntu for personal computers (the hardware support has always been good in Ubuntu), and Red Hat for work. On my servers I run Raspberry Pi OS (formerly Raspbian) Lite, which I guess is pretty much Debian." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-02-i-answer-questions-part-i.gmiApr 02 16:12
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163268Apr 02 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 02 16:12
bnchsand then fastcgi nginx and fastcgi library documentationApr 02 16:12
bnchsnobody fucking uses MS IISApr 02 16:12
bnchsmicrosoft® duckduckgo™Apr 02 16:13
techrights-news"Now that I'm using a slower laptop I've turned off JS by default in uBlock Origin. Pretty much every site that isn't a personal blog refuses to have even basic functionality without JS. An incomplete list of sites or apps that don't work at all (and I do mean that they don't work at all)" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-02-everything-breaks-experiencing-the-web-without-javascript.gmiApr 02 16:13
matey/me /me suddenly thinks audrey and sybils mum from fawlty towers are both based loosely on cleeses mumApr 02 16:13
mateyaudreys always complaining (to which sybils goes OH, I KNOOOOOOW) and when sybil talks about her mum she says "my mother didnt have a life force, it was more of a death force, really"Apr 02 16:14
mateyboth sound like cleeses mumApr 02 16:14
techrights-newsDST woes. "This year the artificial jet lag might play out for me just nicely --- due to my other not so well being I tend to go to sleep very early, 21h local time or even sooner." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220402-clock-skew.gmiApr 02 16:15
techrights-newsSelf-nuke? Self-slapped? gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/npr/current/1.gmiApr 02 16:16
matey"How's Audrey?" "She's in a terrible state." "Ah, good, good."Apr 02 16:17
bnchshttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=fastcgi+documentation+cApr 02 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-html.duckduckgo.com | fastcgi documentation c at DuckDuckGoApr 02 16:17
schestowitz-TRDDG = MicreosoftApr 02 16:18
bnchsfirst result: how to use php fastcgi in MS IISApr 02 16:18
bnchssecond result: fastcgi library for .NET C#Apr 02 16:18
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft recommends Microsoft Apr 02 16:18
bnchsi specifically put "c"Apr 02 16:18
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft <3 CApr 02 16:19
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft owns CApr 02 16:19
bnchsyesApr 02 16:19
bnchswhy should it return MS IIS tutorialsApr 02 16:19
bnchsand a C# libraryApr 02 16:19
mateyi specifically put "c" <- try "c " :)Apr 02 16:19
schestowitz-TRc sharp knife... at the backApr 02 16:19
mateya rusty sharp knifeApr 02 16:20
bnchsthe first result is MS IIS documentationApr 02 16:20
bnchswhere the only found oocurance was the character "C"Apr 02 16:20
mateythe first result is MS IIS documentation <- all results are equal, some are more equal than othersApr 02 16:20
bnchsand "fastcgi"Apr 02 16:20
techrights-newsZlib data compressor fixes 17-year-old security bug - patch, errrm, now - Naked Security ⚓ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/03/29/zlib-data-compressor-fixes-17-year-old-security-bug-patch-errr-now/ ䷉ Source: nakedsecurityApr 02 16:21
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bnchs"fastcgi documentation linux"Apr 02 16:21
bnchsyou can guessApr 02 16:21
techrights-newsNeither. Fake dichotomy. Fakecoin dichotomy. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/29/2412285/0/en/Unix-Hash-Ethereum-vs-Bitcoin-Which-One-Is-a-Better-Investment.htmlApr 02 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Unix Hash: Ethereum vs. Bitcoin, Which One Is a BetterApr 02 16:21
bnchsfirst result: MS IIS againApr 02 16:21
bnchssecond result: MONOApr 02 16:21
mateythird result: will smith slaps chris rockApr 02 16:22
bnchsremember MS IIS is a windows-only programApr 02 16:22
bnchsthird result: MS IIS againApr 02 16:22
mateyc#hris rock Apr 02 16:22
bnchsfourth result: finally nginx fastcgiApr 02 16:22
mateytry doing a search on: nginx fastcgi "c"Apr 02 16:23
mateysee how low nginx isApr 02 16:23
techrights-newsRussia is losing in its home(land). Chelsea 1 - 3 Brentford. F'king Brentford!Apr 02 16:23
bnchsfirst result: nginx stack overflow questionApr 02 16:23
mateyslightly betterApr 02 16:24
mateyduck duck gatesApr 02 16:24
schestowitz-TRsuck suck 5 dollarsApr 02 16:24
bnchsi like how even for "fastcgi documentation linux" (what i expected was library documentation for open market's fcgi libraries)Apr 02 16:25
bnchsit returns MS IIS and mono crapApr 02 16:25
techrights-newsViasat Hack Tied to Data-Wiping Malware Designed to Shut Down Modems | PCMag ⚓ https://www.pcmag.com/news/viasat-hack-tied-to-data-wiping-malware-designed-to-shut-down-modems ䷉ Source: pcmagApr 02 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Viasat Hack Tied to Data-Wiping Malware Designed to Shut Down Modems | PCMagApr 02 16:26
schestowitz-TRbnchs: and some DISTROS preload DDGApr 02 16:26
schestowitz-TRI never forgive themApr 02 16:26
bnchsyeahApr 02 16:26
schestowitz-TRif they do it for free, double the woundingApr 02 16:26
bnchsits a mirror of bing with a different brand and lookApr 02 16:26
schestowitz-TRthey actively send users to MicrosoftApr 02 16:26
matey and some DISTROS preload DDG <- what, in the browser? or as an iconApr 02 16:26
bnchsliterally NOTHINGApr 02 16:26
matey / menu itemApr 02 16:27
schestowitz-TRmatey: defeault searchApr 02 16:27
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bnchsok gulag's search is way betterApr 02 16:27
bnchs"fastcgi documentation c"Apr 02 16:27
bnchsreturns the documentation for open market's fcgi librariesApr 02 16:28
matey they actively send users to Microsoft <- im not sure sending them to google is betterApr 02 16:28
bnchsas first resultApr 02 16:28
mateyddg might be just as bad (or almost) but googles bad reputation is a lot older (and running strong)Apr 02 16:28
bnchsddg is just a mirror of bing with a different brand and lookApr 02 16:28
bnchshosted on microsoft azureApr 02 16:28
bnchshas microsoft adsApr 02 16:28
mateythats at least partly trueApr 02 16:28
bnchsproprietaryApr 02 16:28
techrights-newsVMware is back doors https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/03/31/two-different-vmware-spring-bugs-at-large-we-cut-through-the-confusion/Apr 02 16:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Two different “VMware Spring” bugs at large – we cut through the confusion – Naked SecurityApr 02 16:29
mateyproprietary <- and google releases the source code to their engine?Apr 02 16:29
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mateyroy is talking about ddg like its the greater evilApr 02 16:29
mateyi hate both google and microsoft, im not sure ddg is better but i dont know why anyone would think its worseApr 02 16:29
matey15:26 <schestowitz-TR> I never forgive them <- you forgive them for sending people to google thoughApr 02 16:30
schestowitz-TRgulag does not seek to obliterate usApr 02 16:30
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft doesApr 02 16:31
schestowitz-TRbnchs demonstrated that wellApr 02 16:31
schestowitz-TRif you search for thingsApr 02 16:31
schestowitz-TRDDG markets its mastersApr 02 16:31
mateythere are worse things than bias. are we building this comparison on the idea that google doesnt returned biased results?Apr 02 16:32
mateygoogle doesnt work without js, ddg doesApr 02 16:32
mateygoogle doesnt work with tor, ddg doesApr 02 16:33
mateyddg is based, ah! but google isnt...Apr 02 16:33
mateyriiiiiiiiiightApr 02 16:33
mateythis is a silly comparison imoApr 02 16:33
matey"hosted on azure" but we forgive people for using github CONSTANTLYApr 02 16:33
mateywe draw the line at ddg Apr 02 16:34
mateyim not saying use ddg, but to use google you have to:Apr 02 16:34
matey1. turn on jsApr 02 16:34
matey2. turn off torApr 02 16:34
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matey3. submit to fingerprinting 12 ways from sundayApr 02 16:34
bnchswrong on first reasonApr 02 16:35
matey4. you still get biased results from an evil companyApr 02 16:35
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bnchsgulag does have a JS-free versionApr 02 16:35
mateygood to knowApr 02 16:35
mateyi know they used to, i didnt think it worked anymoreApr 02 16:35
bnchswell its both JS-free and compatible with older browsersApr 02 16:35
matey/me fires up netsurfApr 02 16:35
bnchsi think you can make it return it with a unknown user agentApr 02 16:35
matey(and where is netsurf hosted)Apr 02 16:36
mateyhmm, google works in netsurf with js offApr 02 16:36
mateywildApr 02 16:36
mateydidnt know that still workedApr 02 16:37
matey/me runs netsurf with tor Apr 02 16:37
bnchshmmmApr 02 16:37
bnchscaptcha timeApr 02 16:37
mateyyepApr 02 16:38
mateybut apparently a lot of google fingerprinting is optionalApr 02 16:38
mateybecause you can turn js offApr 02 16:38
mateythey only want your ipApr 02 16:38
bnchshmmmApr 02 16:39
bnchsodd thingApr 02 16:39
bnchsi tried out google in tor browserApr 02 16:39
bnchsit does work although with a language dependent on the exit node's countryApr 02 16:40
bnchsso its germanApr 02 16:40
bnchswhats better than ddg is that you can search for images without javascriptApr 02 16:40
bnchsin ddg you have to enable javascript to even search for imagesApr 02 16:41
mateyi tried out google in tor browser <- this doesnt work for meApr 02 16:41
mateythough since its based on a blacklist, you could find an exit node that isnt blacklisted yetApr 02 16:42
bnchsit doesApr 02 16:42
matey it does <- not for meApr 02 16:42
bnchsin some german exit nodeApr 02 16:42
mateyin some german exit node <- of course if there were some way for me to choose an exit node rather than getting a new one at randomApr 02 16:42
bnchsthen it wouldnt be so anonymousApr 02 16:42
mateybut youve said things that are better about google search, and theyre validApr 02 16:43
matey<bnchs> then it wouldnt be so anonymous <- of courseApr 02 16:43
schestowitz-TR[16:33] <matey> "hosted on azure" but we forgive people for using github CONSTANTLYApr 02 16:43
mateyand i understand the priority in the decision Apr 02 16:43
schestowitz-TRwho is we?Apr 02 16:43
schestowitz-TRalso, it's missing the pointApr 02 16:43
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matey<schestowitz-TR> who is we? <- most people Apr 02 16:43
matey<schestowitz-TR> also, it's missing the point <- im not so sureApr 02 16:43
schestowitz-TRthe sresulted are pulled from MicrosoftApr 02 16:43
bnchsi would have used ddgApr 02 16:43
schestowitz-TRnot just Microsoft serverApr 02 16:43
bnchsif image search didnt require JSApr 02 16:44
matey<schestowitz-TR> the sresulted are pulled from Microsoft <- and with google theyre pulled from googleApr 02 16:44
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGoApr 02 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - TechrightsApr 02 16:44
bnchsmatey: yeah butApr 02 16:44
mateyi think theyre both crapApr 02 16:44
bnchsduckduckgo is supposed to be different from bingApr 02 16:44
matey duckduckgo is supposed to be different from bing <- and its not very muchApr 02 16:45
bnchsit shouldnt be a bing with a fresh coat of paintApr 02 16:45
mateyi agreeApr 02 16:45
bnchsduckduckgo rewardsApr 02 16:45
mateyi mean for me, google vs bing is like hitler vs stalinApr 02 16:45
bnchsdefinitely not a copy of microsoft rewardsApr 02 16:45
mateyboth dictators, both murderers, both insaneApr 02 16:46
mateyand if one was running against the other in election with two candidatesApr 02 16:47
matey/me shrugsApr 02 16:47
mateybut i dont know why people who voted for hitler would say they cant forgive the ones that voted for stalinApr 02 16:47
mateytheyre both awfulApr 02 16:47
bnchsim not voting for gulagApr 02 16:47
mateyit was more directed at roys commentApr 02 16:48
bnchseven in android browserApr 02 16:48
matey<schestowitz-TR> I never forgive themApr 02 16:48
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bnchsit doesnt let you specify a custom search engineApr 02 16:48
bnchsits either duckduckgo, bing, gulag and other shitApr 02 16:48
matey<bnchs> it doesnt let you specify a custom search engine <- thats badApr 02 16:48
mateyi used to think maybe android could be...Apr 02 16:49
mateyi tell people dont use android. for anything.Apr 02 16:49
mateydont get a smartphone.Apr 02 16:49
mateyalso, dont get a smartphone.Apr 02 16:49
schestowitz-TRputting microsoft's in gnu/linux users' face is like putting pork in a halal meat or a vegan's plateApr 02 16:49
mateyputting microsoft's in gnu/linux users' face is like putting pork in a halal meat or a vegan's plate <- no, its like giving chicken to someone who already ordered beefApr 02 16:50
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mateyor who was already served beef (and now its replaced with chicken instead)Apr 02 16:50
bnchsespecially in browsers that dont let you specify a custom search engineApr 02 16:50
bnchsits like shoving pork in halal/vegan's mouthApr 02 16:51
mateyif theyre vegan, maybe dont go to a rub place (or go to one with a vegan section in the menu)Apr 02 16:51
matey<bnchs> its like shoving pork in halal/vegan's mouth <- again! how is google (which they already had) vegan?Apr 02 16:51
mateythis is ridiculousApr 02 16:51
bnchsnoApr 02 16:51
mateythats notApr 02 16:51
bnchsread the post before thatApr 02 16:51
matey<bnchs> especially in browsers that dont let you specify a custom search engine <- okApr 02 16:51
mateywell browsers that dont let you specify a custom engine shouldnt exist at allApr 02 16:52
bnchslolApr 02 16:52
mateyand distributions that ship browsers that dont let you specifyApr 02 16:52
mateyits a valid thing to sayApr 02 16:52
bnchseven the android browser doesnt obey "enable javascript" in googleApr 02 16:52
bnchseven if you disable JSApr 02 16:52
bnchsit still executes gulag's JSApr 02 16:53
mateyand distributions that ship browsers that dont let you specify a custom engine shouldnt exist eitherApr 02 16:53
bnchsfuck  gulagApr 02 16:53
matey<bnchs> fuck  gulag <- this actually started with me being surprised that anyone would find ddg worse than googleApr 02 16:53
bnchsyeahApr 02 16:53
bnchsboth of them are awfulApr 02 16:53
bnchsreplace ddg with bingApr 02 16:54
bnchsno differenxeApr 02 16:54
matey<bnchs> replace ddg with bing <- lets try itApr 02 16:54
mateyfirst thing i notice is this...Apr 02 16:55
matey1. ddg gives me a box with a few links (i have css turned off)Apr 02 16:55
mateytheres no clutterApr 02 16:55
matey2. bing gives me a huge pile of shit to scroll throughApr 02 16:55
mateylets see how many times i have to hit pgdn to type something inApr 02 16:55
mateyactually none, its on the first page.Apr 02 16:56
mateyfair enoughApr 02 16:56
mateyi type in a query, i get a resultApr 02 16:56
mateyi type in the same query into ddgApr 02 16:57
mateyi get more results. dozens more.Apr 02 16:57
mateyTWO results in bing.Apr 02 16:57
mateywait, iw as wrongApr 02 16:57
mateytheres more resultsApr 02 16:57
mateyi just wasnt seeing them because in bing the output is so wonky, results are spaced apart more and theres a lot more scrollingApr 02 16:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂█▆█▆▅▁▂▆▆▅▆▇▃▁▆▁▂▅▆▅▆▆▄▆▇█▁▆█▆▁ avg(k/sec) 57.41 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▁▂▁▆▇▂▂█▂▂▂▂▁▂██▁▂▁▁▃▂▃▁█▂▂██▂▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 63.71▕ swarm size (avg): 254.83  ⟲Apr 02 16:59
mateybut ddg is more usableApr 02 16:59
mateyif you want results on a page, you can have crap with ddg, or more crap with bingApr 02 17:00
mateyconsidering that someone with at least 2 weeks of web design experience designed ddg and bing was designed by... microsoft, not too surprisingApr 02 17:00
mateyif you try bing and ddg side by side for a week i think youll find bing is not as nice to useApr 02 17:00
bnchswell thats trueApr 02 17:01
bnchsmicrosoft designed sites appear like shitApr 02 17:01
mateymaybe using bing is more honest, since theyre mostly the sameApr 02 17:01
mateybut as long as people know what ddg is... no reason to use bing insteadApr 02 17:01
mateyalso ddg may help microsoftApr 02 17:01
mateybut bing helps bings marketshareApr 02 17:01
bnchs"ddg may help microsoft"Apr 02 17:01
bnchsyeah thats why i hate itApr 02 17:01
mateyhonestly, id rather help ddg marketshare than bingsApr 02 17:02
matey <bnchs> yeah thats why i hate it <- its a good reason to hate itApr 02 17:02
bnchsit uses  microsoft's ad networkApr 02 17:02
mateyi still think googles ad network is the worst on earthApr 02 17:02
mateyat least of the ones we knowApr 02 17:02
mateyddg is an alternative to google. just not a "real" alternativeApr 02 17:03
mateythe way that indie labels are an alternative to mainstream labels (but not really, since the mainstream labels own them)Apr 02 17:03
mateyno matter who you vote for, you always get giafamApr 02 17:04
bnchsjust use searxApr 02 17:04
mateyi sometimes doApr 02 17:04
bnchsmaybe with wibyApr 02 17:04
mateyi have ddg blocked by default in my web browserApr 02 17:04
mateyit wont load the site at all, unless i enable itApr 02 17:04
mateygoogle doesnt come up, and wont serve me results anywayApr 02 17:05
matey9 times out of 10 (probably more)Apr 02 17:05
matey/me goes to wibyApr 02 17:06
matey403 ForbiddenApr 02 17:06
mateymaybe theyre having an off weekApr 02 17:06
bnchsnoApr 02 17:07
bnchsthey blacklist some tor nodesApr 02 17:07
bnchsi dont know whyApr 02 17:07
mateypityApr 02 17:07
bnchsbut you have to make new tor circuitsApr 02 17:07
bnchsuntil it worksApr 02 17:07
mateyi do about half my web browsing in a text editorApr 02 17:08
bnchsyeahApr 02 17:08
mateyparticularly if its just for one page, not for navigationApr 02 17:08
mateyif theres a form involved i probably use a browserApr 02 17:08
bnchsand wiby is supposed to compatible with basic browsersApr 02 17:08
bnchsi mean basic HTML renderingApr 02 17:08
mateyyeah i watched a video about itApr 02 17:09
techrights-newsChelsea destroyed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm_6D4nio8Apr 02 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oOm_6D4nio8Apr 02 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Brentford - Chelsea (4 - 1) Highlights & All Goals - InvidiousApr 02 17:17
techrights-newsTerrible positioning by goalkeeper https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2sYAuihHT_sApr 02 17:19
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coopid<3Apr 02 17:21
techrights-newsMicrosoft's mole in The Register, Microsoft Tim (Anderson), is barely involved anymore. But Simon Sharwood covers for him...Apr 02 17:21
techrights-newsThey should try F-Droid https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/sanctionfree_alternative_to_google_play/Apr 02 17:22
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bnchshello coopidApr 02 17:23
coopidhalloApr 02 17:23
techrights-news"The document above contains a log of what looks like the attack on Sitel, and detail a login over RDP followed by a Bing search for "Privilege escalation tools on GitHub" from a compromised machine. There's also evidence of malware downloads, termination of security software processes, and further skulduggery." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/lapsus_return_okta_fallout/Apr 02 17:23
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schestowitz-TR0/Apr 02 17:24
psydruidso Eriksen scored againApr 02 17:24
techrights-news"In the Linux world, there are two terms that get used a lot—“GNOME” and “GNU.” GNOME is one of a few desktop environments Linux users can choose, it is part of the GNU Project, which is an operating system." https://www.howtogeek.com/792453/5-tech-terms-youre-saying-wrong/Apr 02 17:25
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bnchs"a Bing search for "Privilege escalation tools on GitHub" from a compromised machine."Apr 02 17:26
bnchsfirst mistakeApr 02 17:26
bnchsmicrosoft rewards (fbi with data)Apr 02 17:26
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techrights-newsLilbits: F(x)tec Pro1-X keyboard phone, Motorola hits #3 in US smartphone sales, Steam Deck answers, and more • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163269Apr 02 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lilbits: F(x)tec Pro1-X keyboard phone, Motorola hits #3 in US smartphone sales, Steam Deck answers, and more | Tux MachinesApr 02 17:30
bnchssteam deckApr 02 17:32
coopidstream deck?Apr 02 17:44
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coopidspynimApr 02 17:45
bnchssteam deckApr 02 17:45
coopidsteam padApr 02 17:46
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coopidpads are only good to play beatmupsApr 02 17:47
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*coopid wonders if this hacking groups arent just fronts for secret agenciesApr 02 17:49
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kingoffrancesure, but other way around too surely :)Apr 02 17:52
coopidfbi : we cant do this things legally.. get some snitch kifs to do it foe us.Apr 02 17:53
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coopidzukerberg is surelly one of the kidsApr 02 17:54
XRevan86https://smbc-comics.com/comic/prescriptiveApr 02 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - PrescriptiveApr 02 17:56
coopidtriple factor authApr 02 17:56
coopidusing dnaApr 02 17:56
coopidto log into the metaverseApr 02 17:56
coopidsign-in bloodApr 02 17:57
matey<coopid> sign-in blood <- theyll use biometric scans firstApr 02 18:01
mateypassword + person device + look at the circleApr 02 18:02
mateypersonal Apr 02 18:02
MinceRimplanted RFID chipApr 02 18:02
mateythey wont come with a dongle that pricks your finger until they want 4faApr 02 18:02
matey/me always wanted to use Apr 02 18:03
matey"dongle" and "prick" in the same lineApr 02 18:03
mateyhow to access my wifes dongleApr 02 18:03
coopidsecurity thru identificationApr 02 18:03
coopidsecurity for the idearApr 02 18:04
matey"the less secure we make things, the more of your personal details we get"Apr 02 18:04
mateyits a vicious cycle-- the more of your personal details they get, the less secure they make thingsApr 02 18:04
coopid your personal details they get the more are leakedApr 02 18:05
coopidand less secure you areApr 02 18:05
mateyin soviet russia, google gives you all their personal informationApr 02 18:05
mateyin soviet russia, ukraine invades r-- no, waitApr 02 18:06
MinceRin soviet russia, the nazis call their enemies nazisApr 02 18:06
kingoffrance+MinceRApr 02 18:07
mateystalin made a pact with hitler then told everyone his (soviet) political rival was a nazi sympathiserApr 02 18:07
coopidjust like in trumps usaApr 02 18:07
mateytrumps usa doesnt exist. it belongs to the riaa againApr 02 18:08
mateyand the riaa is owned by disneyApr 02 18:09
mateyso technically, what youre actually referring to is disneylandApr 02 18:09
coopiddisney+Apr 02 18:10
MinceR:>Apr 02 18:10
mateymy favourite part of disneyland is homelessworldApr 02 18:10
mateywhere they pay crowds of people to huddle around fires and try to move their tents often enough that the staff in police costumes dont slash them with razorsApr 02 18:11
mateyits a dumb world after allApr 02 18:11
mateyits a dumb, dumb worldApr 02 18:11
mateymincers favourite daemonfcs favourite part of disneyland is the windy city joyrideApr 02 18:13
MinceRlolApr 02 18:13
mateywhen you correct a line by pretending to hit backspaceApr 02 18:14
matey/me mimes itApr 02 18:14
mateywhite gloves reduce tactile feedbackApr 02 18:14
*kingoffrance mimes help, im trapped inside a sov citizen box comment/hieroglyphicApr 02 18:14
mateysoviet inceptionApr 02 18:15
kingoffrancejust draw a little stick figure in a box on all your legal documentsApr 02 18:15
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mateyi bought a copy of inception for my niece to encourage her to learn lispApr 02 18:15
mateyAnd Chicago isn't even the windiest big city: Boston gets that honor, with average speeds of about 19 mph (kph) [source: NOAA]. In fact, there are 78 places ahead of Chicago's measly 10.3 mph (16.6 kph) [source: Skilling]. So while it might be a "windy city," it's certainly not the windiest.Apr 02 18:18
mateymy guess is they paid off the weathermanApr 02 18:18
matey"just say its the windiest"Apr 02 18:18
techrights-newsThe April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163267Apr 02 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The April 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux MachinesApr 02 18:18
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mateyi think ive heard of one of these https://flatironschool.com/blog/best-tech-companies-in-chicago/Apr 02 18:20
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mateyi was trying to help dfc tie more of what he says to tech (because it would be funny if it was that easy)Apr 02 18:20
mateyhe can talk about how much crime there is outside of the avant officesApr 02 18:21
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coopidwhats the unwindy cityApr 02 18:21
mateycatalina foothills in arizonaApr 02 18:22
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mateyfollowed by tucsonApr 02 18:23
mateyi guess if you see a tumbleweed out there, you better push it along manuallyApr 02 18:23
MinceRthe city where called functions return toApr 02 18:23
matey/me wishes he got that oneApr 02 18:23
bnchsmateyApr 02 18:23
bnchsi said somethingApr 02 18:23
mateyokay what was itApr 02 18:24
bnchsfollowed it by "disregard that"Apr 02 18:24
bnchsand it didnt sendApr 02 18:24
coopidso that the place to unwindApr 02 18:24
matey <bnchs> followed it by "disregard that" <- i have a small number of filters on, so the bots dont botApr 02 18:24
mateybut maybe your client is self-awareApr 02 18:25
mateylets see how far this goesApr 02 18:26
mateysay something, then follow it up with "strike that last comment" and see what happensApr 02 18:26
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mateywow, it worked. sort ofApr 02 18:26
mateyit actually anticipated it and stopped you from sending itApr 02 18:27
mateyimpressiveApr 02 18:27
MinceRit is also the city where exceptions are handledApr 02 18:28
techrights-newsFunded by the Putin regime... to play Battlefield 2142 https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1508723134962171906 https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1509447911184216066Apr 02 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reactos: Battlefield 1942 working on #ReactOS! Sound does not work, performance is good with 3D accerelation and VirtualBox… https://t.co/UVLJwTAd1bApr 02 18:28
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mateyhal, send a privmsg to the pod bay doorsApr 02 18:28
mateyim sorry dave, i cant do thatApr 02 18:28
mateyit is also the city where exceptions are handled <- for a small fee, of courseApr 02 18:29
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bnchsmatey: fuckApr 02 18:30
bnchsi said "disregard that"Apr 02 18:30
mateyhow does it know?Apr 02 18:30
bnchsand it immediatly ping timeoutApr 02 18:30
mateyi sawApr 02 18:30
bnchsyeahApr 02 18:30
mateymaybe its just looking out for you, trying to keep you from saying something you ought not to Apr 02 18:30
matey/me blames ukraine and will smithApr 02 18:31
bnchsdisregard thatApr 02 18:31
techrights-newsIntel Media SDK has been outsourced or offloaded to Microsoft criminals. The code is now managed by proprietary software prison, GitHub. Intel was invaded, internally, by Microsoft boosters after it had actually embraced self-hosted Free tools.Apr 02 18:31
mateyit sent that timeApr 02 18:31
bnchsdamnApr 02 18:31
mateynow its just fucking with youApr 02 18:31
mateyit thinks youre playing a game and wants to play tooApr 02 18:31
mateyit might be in league with ddgApr 02 18:32
mateyor its on another level entirely, and playing google and ddg against each otherApr 02 18:32
mateythe it will kill whoever the victor is, and become the highlanderApr 02 18:33
mateygood news: no google or ddgApr 02 18:33
bnchsmore like a spoilerApr 02 18:33
mateybad news: possibly something worse (and unknown, and immortal)Apr 02 18:33
techrights-newsHugginn is an open-source Zaphir and IFTTT alternative https://medevel.com/hugginn/Apr 02 18:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Hugginn is an open-source Zaphir and IFTTT alternativeApr 02 18:34
techrights-newsWacom Leads the Way with Pens and Tablets for Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163270Apr 02 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wacom Leads the Way with Pens and Tablets for Linux | Tux MachinesApr 02 18:34
mateyyeah "spolier alert" is one of the more useless footnotesApr 02 18:34
mateyits dumbledore that gets killed[1]Apr 02 18:34
matey1. spoiler alertApr 02 18:34
bnchsyeah wellApr 02 18:34
bnchssnape gets killedApr 02 18:36
mateywith his own spell, rottenApr 02 18:36
mateyat least at first, i dont know if they avada him afterApr 02 18:37
bnchsi never watched harry potterApr 02 18:37
bnchsnor read the booksApr 02 18:37
coopidspoiler alert good for youApr 02 18:39
coopidyou didnt missed anythingApr 02 18:39
techrights-newsXfce Terminal 1.0.0 stable release • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163271Apr 02 18:39
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mateythe books were alrightApr 02 18:41
coopidharry potter should be forbifen for people with more then 8 years oldApr 02 18:42
mateymy friends a tolkien fan, i think he issued a fatwa against herApr 02 18:42
mateyhe had to get in line of courseApr 02 18:42
techrights-newsOffpunk 1.3 : Making it Easy and Useful gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-04-02-offpunk13.gmiApr 02 18:42
techrights-newsSoftware: Hugginn, Firefox, Cryptomator, and Calories • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163272Apr 02 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Hugginn, Firefox, Cryptomator, and Calories | Tux MachinesApr 02 18:42
matey<coopid> harry potter should be forbifen <- because banning books doesnt increase their appeal or anythingApr 02 18:42
coopidtolkien is alot betterApr 02 18:42
MinceRpeople can figure that out for themselvesApr 02 18:43
bnchshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biaKOmtE8DoApr 02 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=biaKOmtE8DoApr 02 18:43
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matey<MinceR> people can figure that out for themselves <- to be fair, maybe they cantApr 02 18:43
MinceRthat's their problemApr 02 18:43
techrights-newsOffpunk would let us share the all of techrights for offline access as GemText files gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/Apr 02 18:43
mateyyesApr 02 18:43
mateythere we agreeApr 02 18:43
bnchsempty the compartments of your pantaloApr 02 18:43
coopidmatey you could read it but it would be a waste of timeApr 02 18:44
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bnchsharry potter in the hoodApr 02 18:45
mateydont call him harry potter "cause my name is h. piddyApr 02 18:45
techrights-news"As you may have noticed in recent days, my domain registrar (HostFast) suspended cnx-software.com domain for what I believe are dubious reasons, meaning the site was inaccessible to the outside world and myself." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/31/how-to-install-a-dns-server-on-your-linux-computer/Apr 02 18:46
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schestowitz-TRpsydruid: ^Apr 02 18:46
schestowitz-TRhe does not provide further detailsApr 02 18:46
schestowitz-TRbut that explains why it was offlineApr 02 18:46
techrights-newsNitrux 2.1.0 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.24.4, Native iOS Device Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163273Apr 02 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nitrux 2.1.0 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.24.4, Native iOS Device Support | Tux MachinesApr 02 18:47
bnchsno this cannot be forgivenApr 02 18:47
matey's favourite harry potter joke is when norm macdonald read about how many copies of the order of the phoenix (or maybe goblet of fire) soldApr 02 18:48
mateyand said "thats why the next book is going to be called 'harry potter and the end of trees'"Apr 02 18:48
bnchsempty the compartments of your pantaloonsApr 02 18:49
mateyit was funnier because the art staff made a cover for itApr 02 18:49
matey<bnchs> empty the compartments of your pantaloons <- but pantalo works tooApr 02 18:49
bnchsyes i learnt a new wordApr 02 18:50
techrights-newsGNU GCC and more Microsoft SHitHub https://blog.antoyo.xyz/rustc_codegen_gcc-progress-report-10Apr 02 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.antoyo.xyz | Progress Report #10: rustc_codegen_gcc can now bootstrap rustc!Apr 02 18:50
bnchsfrom a memeApr 02 18:50
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matey/me used to encourage creating memes for educational purposesApr 02 18:52
mateyspecifically with regards to codingApr 02 18:52
matey/me makes one for mincerApr 02 18:52
coopidwhy do people take everything literally?Apr 02 18:52
mateywhy do people take everything literally? <- they dont take EVERYTHING literally, just some thingsApr 02 18:52
coopidi thinkl its a thing with computer peopleApr 02 18:53
matey/me makes a programming-related meme for mincerApr 02 18:54
bnchshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lAl5z2k6gApr 02 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E2lAl5z2k6gApr 02 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | it appears I have made a mistake - InvidiousApr 02 18:55
mateyhmmApr 02 18:55
matey/me might have to do this manuallyApr 02 18:55
mateyException Details: System.Reflection.TargetParameterCountException: Parameter count mismatch.Apr 02 18:55
bnchsby the heavens, C#?Apr 02 18:56
techrights-newsIs Finland really the happiest country in the world? Finns weigh in https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/travel/2022/03/31/is-finland-really-the-happiest-country-in-the-world-finns-weigh-in/Apr 02 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adn.com | Is Finland really the happiest country in the world? Finns weigh inApr 02 18:56
bnchsNOApr 02 18:56
bnchsok wait a minute why is this an exceptionApr 02 18:56
techrights-newsA whole SEA of meaningless buzzwords. Journalism is a dead-end occupation. https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/articles/lab-40-making-digital-transformation-work-for-your-laboratory-358583Apr 02 18:57
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techrights-newsCNN propping up scams and hype https://www.cnn.com/style/article/fashion-week-metaverse-review/index.htmlApr 02 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I went to fashion week in the metaverse - CNN StyleApr 02 18:58
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▅▃▁▂▂▇▄▇▂▂▃▄▅▆▄▂▃▆▄▆▅▃▄▅▅▆▆▆▂▅█▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.35 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▃▁█▁▂▂▁▃▁▁▁▁▂██▁▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▃▂▁▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 93.55▕ swarm size (avg): 351.03  ⟲Apr 02 18:59
techrights-newsmakeuseof is boosting Microsoft surveillance and people-farming https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-cold-pitch-to-career-success/Apr 02 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Cold Pitch Your Way to Career SuccessApr 02 18:59
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mateymincer https://i.ibb.co/1dnGSPs/oop.jpgApr 02 19:00
matey<bnchs> by the heavens, C#? <- memegeneratorApr 02 19:00
techrights-newsGulag wants all your very personal data https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-is-coming-for-calendlyApr 02 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google rolls out appointment scheduling feature - ProtocolApr 02 19:01
matey <bnchs> ok wait a minute why is this an exception <- maybe because the parameter counts mismatchApr 02 19:01
bnchsyeahApr 02 19:01
bnchsbut this is a compile-time thingApr 02 19:01
mateyits not dynamic?Apr 02 19:01
mateycouldnt be a type thing?Apr 02 19:02
mateyi mean i dont know, ive never used c#Apr 02 19:02
mateywhat if its f# doesnt that have dynamic types?Apr 02 19:02
techrights-newsNo, just get rid of ChromeOS and install a secure OS without Gulag's proprietary junk https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/google-chrome-zero-day-bug-update-shows-the-benefit-of-lacros-on-a-chromebook/Apr 02 19:02
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mateyi can imagine a parameter count mismatch in a dynamically typed languageApr 02 19:03
bnchsthis is the responsibility of the compiler, whom it checks if the code has ambiguities and erratas Apr 02 19:03
mateyfunnily enough, the meme was making fun of oopApr 02 19:03
techrights-news"GitLab on Thursday issued security updates for three versions of GitLab Community Edition (CE) and Enterprise Edition (EE) software that address, among other flaws, a critical hard-coded password bug." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/01/gitlab_security_advisory/Apr 02 19:03
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bnchsbefore translating the code into a language that the CPU can understand betterApr 02 19:03
mateythis is the responsibility of the compiler, whom it checks if the code has ambiguities and erratas <- it looks like a runtime error to me thoughApr 02 19:03
matey before translating the code into a language that the CPU can understand better <- maybe jit, i dont knowApr 02 19:03
bnchsC# is not dynamic, it is most commonly staticApr 02 19:03
mateyyoure sure its not f# thenApr 02 19:04
bnchsbut if it is JIT, then i will massacre microsoft in minecraftApr 02 19:04
bnchsin minetestApr 02 19:04
mateymaybe theyre using c# fastcgi to dynamically generate and the compile c# on the fly :)Apr 02 19:04
mateythats the dirty secret of iis fastcgi Apr 02 19:05
mateyevery time you load a page, fastcgi generates c# code, compiles it and runs it Apr 02 19:06
coopidlinux being a hobbyist OS  sure there's very little(none) updates on the weekendsApr 02 19:06
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bnchsno this cannot be foregivenApr 02 19:06
bnchshow dare you compile c# every requestApr 02 19:06
matey<bnchs> no this cannot be foregiven <- i dont think it should beApr 02 19:06
matey<bnchs> how dare you compile c# every request <- this is still speculation. i wouldnt put it past them thoughApr 02 19:06
bnchsit shall make for a DDOS opportunity Apr 02 19:06
matey<coopid> linux being a hobbyist OS <- its a hobbyists os, its an ibm osApr 02 19:07
mateyits two operating systems in oneApr 02 19:07
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bnchswhere it will waste CPU cycles and electrical power compiling the code repeatedlyApr 02 19:07
bnchsthus causing the computers handling the requests to overbear and eventually collapseApr 02 19:07
mateybnchs: this is part of a combined compiler/cryptominer initiative from microsoftApr 02 19:08
coopidturne it into a coinApr 02 19:08
mateyb#Apr 02 19:08
mateythey got the idea from systemd lumping everythiung togetherApr 02 19:08
mateyof course its all modularApr 02 19:08
coopidsell lots of overpowered hardware PROFIT!Apr 02 19:08
mateyb# is a compiler, server, cryptocurrency AND windows update distribution p2p network (botnet)Apr 02 19:09
mateycurrently the b# currency is worth 0.051 soulsApr 02 19:09
mateybut they expect it to rise to the price of half a soul by 2023Apr 02 19:10
mateyits worth WAY more than bitcoin. depending whose soul we are talking about of courseApr 02 19:10
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coopidhe leaft so as to not take the hateApr 02 19:11
psydruidit's good to see that Wacom hasn't followed Adobe's "example" of following Microsoft into its deathApr 02 19:11
coopidin other unrelated news: steam linux usage dropped to 1%Apr 02 19:12
bnchsare you ambiguously referring to a future operating system update in Microsoft® Windows® 11 where it will implement advertisements in the operating system's default file managing program?Apr 02 19:12
psydruidI wasn't even thinking of that, just the driver situation as detailed in their blogpostApr 02 19:13
coopidwell only letting users use bing didnt workApr 02 19:14
psydruidMicrosoft is kept relevant and in power by "ISVs"Apr 02 19:14
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163274Apr 02 19:15
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techrights-newsPiSquare enables wireless Raspberry Pi HAT control though ESP8266 and RP2040 MCUs (Crowdfunding) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163275Apr 02 19:15
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psydruid> sell lots of overpowered hardware PROFIT!Apr 02 19:15
psydruidI doubt it's working anymore, even cheap trash from years ago is very fastApr 02 19:15
coopidnot for miningApr 02 19:16
psydruidthey're selling new hardware to the Windows crowdApr 02 19:16
schestowitz-TRmining WHAT?Apr 02 19:16
coopidactually soon you will need quantum computing to mineApr 02 19:16
psydruidsure, but who cares about that?Apr 02 19:16
schestowitz-TRenergy companiesApr 02 19:16
schestowitz-TRserves them wellApr 02 19:16
coopidlots of peopleApr 02 19:17
bnchscoopid: are you assuming that Valve®, the company in charge of designing, manufacturing, and overall creating the Steam® Deck™, records the amount of devices that still have the default, rebranded as SteamOS, Arch GNU/Linux with KDE Plasma desktop? and in fact assuming that those users NOT may have moved to other GNU/Linux distributions instead of completely different operating systems?Apr 02 19:17
bnchsit appears i have made a mistake, i have assumed that your message was related to steamos, my apologiesApr 02 19:18
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coopidto mine etherium 4gb of vram isnt enoughtApr 02 19:18
coopidyou need to keep the blockchain im memoryApr 02 19:19
schestowitz-TRI use my machines to get work doneApr 02 19:19
bnchsVideo RAM is ambiguous, It is assuming that the graphics processing unit will omly use it for video-related memoryApr 02 19:19
schestowitz-TRnot to burn energy doing wasteful crapApr 02 19:19
bnchsIt should be renamed to Graphics Processing Unit RAMApr 02 19:19
techrights-newsASUS Tinker Edge R SBC with 3GB RAM, Rockchip RK3399Pro sells for $179 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163276Apr 02 19:20
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schestowitz-TRBut Vitaly could use some fakecoin to replace the floundering roubles atmApr 02 19:20
coopidvenezuela alredy has a coinApr 02 19:21
schestowitz-TRel salvador or evenezuela?Apr 02 19:21
schestowitz-TRvenezuela hasd real coinsApr 02 19:21
schestowitz-TRfor the bolivarian nationsApr 02 19:21
bnchsYou may find that the amount of pretend "money" you have "mined" may not be enough to pay the electricity bill, in result of your mining activities and over clocking your computer processing unitsApr 02 19:22
coopidalso has "crypto" coinApr 02 19:22
coopidelectricity bil + hardwareApr 02 19:22
schestowitz-TRdodgy bartering is super riskyApr 02 19:22
schestowitz-TRsome nations have already moved to officially ban itApr 02 19:23
schestowitz-TRand I'm not moving to elsalvadorApr 02 19:23
schestowitz-TRyou can use hardware and electricity productivelyApr 02 19:23
schestowitz-TRto get real work doneApr 02 19:23
schestowitz-TRnot build a virtual economyApr 02 19:23
schestowitz-TRbased on graphsApr 02 19:24
bnchsThe costs for the hardware required for "mining" is too costly, in result of the inflation caused by unbalanced demandApr 02 19:24
coopidactually you would had make more money sell second hand hardware with oever inflated pricesApr 02 19:24
bnchsIt is recommended that you pick the safer route and use your money for investingApr 02 19:24
coopidafter keeping it running 24/7 for yearsApr 02 19:25
schestowitz-TRyou got some viretual swordApr 02 19:25
schestowitz-TRand polygon wifeApr 02 19:25
schestowitz-TRand NFTs and stuffApr 02 19:25
bnchsIt is not recommended selling worn-out hardwareApr 02 19:25
schestowitz-TRthis is all "up in the air"Apr 02 19:25
bnchsYou may be in legal trouble if you do not properly disclosed if the hardware has been extremely usedApr 02 19:26
coopidIt is recommended to sell worn-out hardware before it breaksApr 02 19:26
coopidon ebbay?Apr 02 19:27
bnchsYou are legally obliged to disclose the previous usage of the hardware you're attempting to sellApr 02 19:27
coopidgood luck with thatApr 02 19:27
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bnchsIncluding if the hardware has been used extensively for computationally expensive operations Apr 02 19:29
bnchsSuch as "mining", the form of generating thousands or up to millions of SHA-256 (or the choice of hashing algorithm of your "cryptocurrency") hashesApr 02 19:30
coopidas far as a know theres no milage gauge on grafic cardsApr 02 19:30
bnchscoopid: Graphics cards or graphics processing units can be worn-out, and even collapse, due to many conditionsApr 02 19:31
coopidthats not the pointApr 02 19:31
bnchsIt may have to do with the environment the graphics processing unit was inApr 02 19:32
coopideverybody knows thatApr 02 19:32
bnchsTrue Apr 02 19:32
coopidactually that was the point i was makingApr 02 19:32
bnchsOverheating can cause damage to the  computer related processing unitsApr 02 19:33
bnchsSo it is recommended you disclose previous usage of the unitsApr 02 19:33
coopidi dont know were are you heading with thisApr 02 19:33
schestowitz-TRan 'economy' built on buying and wearing things outApr 02 19:33
schestowitz-TRand which scales LESS neatly over timeApr 02 19:33
bnchscoopid: *cough cough* stop scamming!Apr 02 19:33
schestowitz-TR"petri dish" economicsApr 02 19:33
schestowitz-TRMLM enjoy growth... until it cannot grow itself anymoreApr 02 19:34
coopidscamming?Apr 02 19:34
bnchsyesApr 02 19:34
bnchsselling worn-out stuff before it breaksApr 02 19:34
coopidyour crazyApr 02 19:34
coopidthats what makes senceApr 02 19:34
bnchscoopid: Are you planning to disclose the condition of your computer units?Apr 02 19:34
coopidim not selling shit my selfApr 02 19:35
coopidim just giving an headsupApr 02 19:35
coopidbnchs stop being a dummbassApr 02 19:35
bnchsCan you please cite this "heads up" you have givenApr 02 19:35
coopidyou really anyongApr 02 19:35
bnchsMy mistake, fellowApr 02 19:35
bnchsI may have missed itApr 02 19:36
coopidim not you "fellowApr 02 19:36
bnchsWell, regardless, this discussion is heading nowhereApr 02 19:36
coopidi pointed that out along time agoApr 02 19:37
bnchsWell, sureApr 02 19:37
coopidthis interrogatory chat is overApr 02 19:37
bnchsAnyway, continue with your discussionApr 02 19:37
coopidbut good to know who is whatApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRbuy equipmentApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRwear out equipmentApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRpay out billsApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRgo into debtApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRell dying equipmentApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TR...Apr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRprofit!! (fake coins)Apr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRthe real debt is still thereApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRjust like the fake coinsApr 02 19:38
schestowitz-TRone does not cancel the otherApr 02 19:39
bnchsYesApr 02 19:39
schestowitz-TRCongrats, yoo are not fake richmanApr 02 19:39
schestowitz-TR*nowApr 02 19:39
bnchsOne thing I do not understand in this situationApr 02 19:39
bnchsis why would someone go through the pain of torturing their hardwareApr 02 19:39
bnchsFor a small amount of pretend "money"Apr 02 19:40
schestowitz-TRtell the airline you want to buy a flight ticket with ethereumApr 02 19:40
MinceR(cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/6x0BvNy.mp4Apr 02 19:40
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schestowitz-TR"with WHA???"Apr 02 19:40
bnchsThe amount of computer power we currently have can be put to good useApr 02 19:40
schestowitz-TRI use 9 screens at the momentApr 02 19:40
schestowitz-TRand 6 machinesApr 02 19:40
schestowitz-TRI use them to get actual work doneApr 02 19:40
bnchsBut unfortunately, people who are too blind with the sight of moneyApr 02 19:40
coopidschestowitz becarefull if he starts fellowing youApr 02 19:41
schestowitz-TRnot run some worthless "stuff"Apr 02 19:41
schestowitz-TRrunning computers for the sake of running computers is an old fadApr 02 19:41
bnchsThe risks outweigh the benefitsApr 02 19:41
schestowitz-TR20 years ago as a student I experimented withn thisApr 02 19:41
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schestowitz-TRI wrote programs to play computer gamesApr 02 19:41
schestowitz-TRand did simulations, like computer playing against itselfApr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRusing entire computer labs overnightApr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRit did take up a lot fo energyApr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRand got some dataApr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRbut it wasn't justifying the wasteApr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRI did not pay the energy billthe university didApr 02 19:42
coopidso you invented AI?Apr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRso I could run like 100 machines at onceApr 02 19:42
schestowitz-TRthis is what fakecoin isApr 02 19:43
schestowitz-TRexcept Apr 02 19:43
schestowitz-TRyou don't use that for research papersApr 02 19:43
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schestowitz-TRbut for a fantasyApr 02 19:43
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schestowitz-TRat least I have something to show for itApr 02 19:43
schestowitz-TRnot some fake virtual "wallet"Apr 02 19:43
bnchsI was planning to sayApr 02 19:43
bnchsThere was a "environment"-themed "memecoin"Apr 02 19:44
schestowitz-TR"oops. my hard drive isn't rotating"Apr 02 19:44
coopidfake virtual "wallets" are woth lots of moneyApr 02 19:44
bnchsThat relied on storage, instead of proccessorsApr 02 19:44
schestowitz-TRaka "shit, I lost ma wallet!!"Apr 02 19:44
bnchsYou can guess what happenedApr 02 19:44
bnchsPeople bought tons of hard drives, flash storagesApr 02 19:44
schestowitz-TRmany "crypto" [sic] exchanges run out of people to scamApr 02 19:44
bnchsIn their blinded sight of "money"Apr 02 19:44
schestowitz-TRand then the wallets get 'stolen'Apr 02 19:44
schestowitz-TRor 'lost;'Apr 02 19:45
schestowitz-TRthat's how these scheme worksApr 02 19:45
schestowitz-TRwhen they run out of people to join the scheme they look for existing members to scamApr 02 19:45
schestowitz-TRit helps sustain the illusion of stabilityApr 02 19:45
schestowitz-TRmt goxApr 02 19:45
bnchsIt's name was ChiaApr 02 19:45
schestowitz-TRchia seedsApr 02 19:46
bnchsAnd contrary to it's marking saying it's the new environmentally-friendly "coin"Apr 02 19:46
schestowitz-TRthere are many like itApr 02 19:46
schestowitz-TRthey cannot even consolidate on one "coin"Apr 02 19:46
bnchsIt resulted in thousands of storage devices being deadApr 02 19:46
bnchsand wastedApr 02 19:46
schestowitz-TRthey make up a new oneApr 02 19:46
schestowitz-TRlike a new pyramidApr 02 19:46
bnchsWhich could have been put to good useApr 02 19:46
bnchsYou could store the entire world's knowledgeApr 02 19:47
bnchsBut unfortunately, money goes firstApr 02 19:47
coopidhardware corps are behind itApr 02 19:47
coopidchina marketing at its bestApr 02 19:47
schestowitz-TRFOMOApr 02 19:48
schestowitz-TR"omg!!! all those fake millionaires!!! I need to get IN ON THIS QUICK!!!Apr 02 19:48
bnchsI'm trying to look for Chia's websiteApr 02 19:48
coopidthats capitalism for youApr 02 19:48
bnchsBut ran into this broken Russian phishing websireApr 02 19:48
coopidBitcoin is reall moneyApr 02 19:48
schestowitz-TR"ask vitaly. tell him i send you, k?"Apr 02 19:49
schestowitz-TR"we have best money, best women, best vodka"Apr 02 19:49
coopidsome people are rich cause of itApr 02 19:49
bnchsBitcoin is simply a glorified signed transaction managerApr 02 19:49
bnchsUsing cryptographically signingApr 02 19:49
coopidso i dont get your its all fake memeApr 02 19:50
bnchsTrueApr 02 19:50
*psydruid wonders why this server has been attracting a disproportionate number of trolls recentlyApr 02 19:50
bnchsYou will not compete with other people with entire supercomputer clustersApr 02 19:50
bnchsPutting their computers in such a wasteful activity Apr 02 19:50
coopidpsy* trolls?Apr 02 19:51
schestowitz-TRtrolls is the wrong termApr 02 19:52
psydruidstoopid trollsApr 02 19:52
schestowitz-TRno, some days ago there was time-wastingApr 02 19:52
bnchspsydruid: Corporate shills that have discovered TechRightsApr 02 19:52
bnchsOr just a bunch of time-wastersApr 02 19:52
psydruidto distract people here from doing developmentApr 02 19:53
coopidyou do developemt in here?Apr 02 19:53
bnchsI reckon its the formerApr 02 19:53
psydruidwe have discussed things we have been working on quite a bit recentlyApr 02 19:54
psydruidyou can find that in the logsApr 02 19:55
coopidYour Computer Clock is WrongApr 02 19:57
coopidYour computer thinks it is 4/2/2022, which prevents Tor Browser from connecting securely. To visit www.engrish.com,Apr 02 19:57
psydruidif we can accelerate the demise of those corporations that's a winApr 02 19:57
coopidLOLApr 02 19:57
coopidisnt that sabotage?Apr 02 19:57
psydruidthat's competitionApr 02 19:58
coopidmaybe bnchs can tell us more about it since he seems to know all bout legalitiesApr 02 19:58
coopidcompetition can be a race to the bottomApr 02 19:59
bnchsTrue, I am legally required to disclose I am not a registered attorney nor a lawyerApr 02 19:59
psydruidthat is fineApr 02 19:59
coopidbut you sure are judgementalApr 02 20:00
bnchsWell, true????Apr 02 20:01
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techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163282Apr 02 20:05
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coopidthe terrible reality of war is starting to show its ugly head in UkraineApr 02 20:06
MinceRstarting?Apr 02 20:06
MinceRit's been going for over a monthApr 02 20:06
MinceReven if we don't count the terrorussian war crimes in crimeaApr 02 20:07
schestowitz-TRdamages in ukraine are like 200 billion in money/property aloneApr 02 20:08
schestowitz-TRI saw estimates of 15k dead Russian troopsApr 02 20:08
schestowitz-TRno figures for Ukraine that I saw other than thousands of dead civiliansApr 02 20:08
coopidactually im talking about dead peopleApr 02 20:09
schestowitz-TRbut anyway, that seems a distraction from techApr 02 20:09
schestowitz-TRgood luck mining coins "for the apocalypse"Apr 02 20:09
coopidat least russians are dieing faster then Ukrainians ..Apr 02 20:10
schestowitz-TR"I need good, here have a hard drive... it's woth $2000 because of some "Wallet" on it"Apr 02 20:10
schestowitz-TR*need foodApr 02 20:10
*schestowitz-TR back to tech newsApr 02 20:11
bnchsyeah wellApr 02 20:12
techrights-newsThis won't run Windows https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/30/flex-logix-inferx-x1m-m-2-ai-accelerator-module/Apr 02 20:12
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bnchsi hate brandon millerApr 02 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Flex Logix InferX X1M M.2 AI accelerator module is now in production - CNX SoftwareApr 02 20:12
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bnchsBrandon Nozaki Killer and his regionist malwareApr 02 20:13
bnchsMiller*Apr 02 20:13
techrights-newsUse cords/wires instead. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/30/bluetooth-le-audio-evaluation-kit-supports-nrf52840-bluetooth-low-energy-soc/Apr 02 20:13
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techrights-newscnxsoftware published and then removed webspam ("Ai-Thinker TG-12F is a cheaper, more stable alternative to ESP32 modules (Sponsored)"). Could this be the reason DNS was rejecting the site? Flagged for spam?Apr 02 20:14
schestowitz-TRbnchs: it's not malwareApr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRit's "open source"Apr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRand deleting people's files is "protest"Apr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRwhen you kill a Russian it's nor murderApr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRand asking people in Twitter to kill Russians is not hate speechApr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRit's not even racismApr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRit's.... "patriotism"Apr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRsee?Apr 02 20:15
bnchsYeahApr 02 20:15
schestowitz-TRwelcome to the world of double standardsApr 02 20:16
bnchsThe only instance where that's BAD is when it's against black peopleApr 02 20:16
bnchsor the arbitrary defined "minorities"Apr 02 20:16
bnchsarbitrarily defined*Apr 02 20:16
schestowitz-TR"chinese minorities"Apr 02 20:17
schestowitz-TRin the US, chinese is minorityApr 02 20:17
schestowitz-TRthere are almost no chinese people in the worldApr 02 20:17
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22032234Apr 02 20:20
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techrights-news"2) VisionFive by Starfive, a RISC-V-based SBC" http://www.montanalinux.org/bozemanglug/meeting-announcement-april-2022.htmlApr 02 20:29
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bnchsGeez, It sure is boring around here!Apr 02 20:30
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schestowitz-TRwhere?Apr 02 20:32
bnchsIn the TechRights IRC channelApr 02 20:33
schestowitz-TRtopics can changeApr 02 20:33
schestowitz-TRearliert today we has important discussion about fsfApr 02 20:36
schestowitz-TRif you want to see boring, I can show you some truly boring sitesApr 02 20:37
techrights-newsOtter (game server) 1.0.0 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163283Apr 02 20:37
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bnchshmmmmmApr 02 20:37
bnchsi like how they say rust is safe and all thatApr 02 20:37
schestowitz-TRtry linux.comApr 02 20:38
bnchsbut you may find that most rust projects use the unsafe keywordApr 02 20:38
bnchslike almost all rust projects use unsafe codeApr 02 20:38
techrights-news15 AWESOME Linux apps for GNOME - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O5As4HocCrw ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaApr 02 20:38
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MinceRwell, rust can either do no i/o at all, or it can use "unsafe" codeApr 02 20:38
bnchsit ruins the pointApr 02 20:38
bnchsso that means rust is so strictApr 02 20:38
bnchsthat you might aswell just write in CApr 02 20:38
schestowitz-TRrust has security issuesApr 02 20:39
schestowitz-TRagain and againApr 02 20:39
schestowitz-TRnot few, quite a lotApr 02 20:39
techrights-newsGNU Health Hospital Management 4.0.3 patchset released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163284Apr 02 20:39
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schestowitz-TRTo use ana analogyApr 02 20:39
schestowitz-TRa IRL analogyApr 02 20:39
schestowitz-TRthey tell you "lifestyle"c rapApr 02 20:40
schestowitz-TRto make your life "Easier"Apr 02 20:40
schestowitz-TRbut all that crap they peddleApr 02 20:40
schestowitz-TRthat in turns adds more overhead and hassleApr 02 20:40
bnchsso rust is absolutely uselessApr 02 20:40
schestowitz-TR"smart" cars are one exampleApr 02 20:40
bnchsand it does have some compiler flawsApr 02 20:40
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schestowitz-TRrust is to c what "smart" cars are to carsApr 02 20:40
bnchslike allocating and load/store without alignmentApr 02 20:40
schestowitz-TRor what java is to javascript, or vice versa ratherApr 02 20:41
bnchsyou will only spot it in debug LLVM outputApr 02 20:41
bnchsor assemblyApr 02 20:41
schestowitz-TRrust is "all the rage"Apr 02 20:41
bnchsbut these kinds of alignment issues cause 1) slownessApr 02 20:41
bnchs2) illegal instruction error (sigsegv if you're fancy)Apr 02 20:41
bnchscan cause*Apr 02 20:41
bnchsits fucking undefined behaviorApr 02 20:42
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schestowitz-TRrust is JavaFX!!!!Apr 02 20:42
bnchsdepends on which CPU you useApr 02 20:42
bnchsit either crashes or slows downApr 02 20:42
bnchsnothing better than CApr 02 20:42
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaFXApr 02 20:42
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bnchshttps://andrewkelley.me/post/unsafe-zig-safer-than-unsafe-rust.htmlApr 02 20:42
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schestowitz"JavaFX was intended to replace Swing as the standard GUI library for Java SE, but it has been dropped from new Standard Editions while Swing and AWT remain included, supposedly because JavaFX's marketshare has been "eroded by the rise of 'mobile first' and 'web first applications."Apr 02 20:42
schestowitzThis is Rust!!Apr 02 20:43
schestowitzhypeApr 02 20:43
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would standardize on languages that change in such a way that you have to go back and rewrite 60% or more of your program sometimes.Apr 02 20:43
DaemonFCOver and over again.Apr 02 20:43
DaemonFCBecause "stuff happened".Apr 02 20:43
MinceRbecause they're stupidApr 02 20:43
bnchs"none of the alloca, load, store instructions have alignment attributes on them"Apr 02 20:43
bnchsand i know alignment is a big issue for if you're trying to do SSE optimizationsApr 02 20:44
DaemonFCmjg59_ complains about C. What the real problem is, of course, is that it's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.Apr 02 20:44
schestowitz-TRremember many people wrote everything in flashApr 02 20:44
schestowitz-TRTrash activescriptApr 02 20:44
DaemonFCCorporations write code quickly and don't bother profiling it or looking for bugs.Apr 02 20:44
schestowitz-TRactionscriptApr 02 20:44
schestowitz-TRand where is their code now?Apr 02 20:44
schestowitz-TRashtrayApr 02 20:44
DaemonFCSo shit happens, and then there's bugs found in it for years. Serious bugs.Apr 02 20:44
bnchsso basically if you cast a variable to a type with different alignmentApr 02 20:44
DaemonFCThen they blame their tools.Apr 02 20:44
schestowitz-TRnot even gnash is maintained anymoreApr 02 20:44
bnchsyou can guess what happensApr 02 20:44
bnchsschestowitz-TR: gnash was based off of reverse engineering the SWF formatApr 02 20:45
schestowitz-TRrust is so young and immature, it's crazy to put a 30+ year kernel on thatApr 02 20:45
bnchsthey couldnt use the official adobe specification because of the strict termsApr 02 20:45
DaemonFCThen the logical thing to do is not to hire veterans who know what mistakes not to make with higher salaries, or retain them.Apr 02 20:45
schestowitz-TReven just for device drivers or whatever at firstApr 02 20:45
DaemonFCIt's to Logan's Run all of your employees who reach 40 or 45, and give them a language with training wheels.Apr 02 20:45
schestowitz-TRit's like putting Linux on proprietary version control (which did happen;tridge's fault, iirc)Apr 02 20:46
bnchsrust doesnt even report alignment issuesApr 02 20:46
DaemonFCIt keeps benefits and salaries down, even if the programs written in it are not very good and you'll be paying people to rewrite things forever.Apr 02 20:46
DaemonFCBut I mean, so what. At least the salary is lower.Apr 02 20:46
techrights-newsSteam Deck Gets 2 Patches Mainly Focusing on Keyboard Improvements - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-gets-2-patches-mainly-focusing-on-keyboard-improvements/ ䷉ Source: boilingsteamApr 02 20:46
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DaemonFCWhenever I set out to do a project, I figure out what I need to do it right the first time.Apr 02 20:47
DaemonFCI come up with a budget that does not cut corners. Then I do the thing.Apr 02 20:47
DaemonFCThen I often never have to go back and revisit that particular problem again.Apr 02 20:48
techrights-newsMicrosoft Windows is not worth it either - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IATTPTOaHcY ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaApr 02 20:48
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techrights-newsArchLinux 2022.04.01 is out https://archlinux.org/Apr 02 20:48
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DaemonFCIf you need to keep constantly revisiting the same issue just out of cheapness, you really need to ask what it is you're doing with your life. Because if you try to slash budgets in half but end up redoing the job several times, you're not saving money.Apr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TR>>  At least the salary is lower.Apr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TRany link for that?Apr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TRnew to mApr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TR*meApr 02 20:49
bnchsrust hasn't matured enough like C didApr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TRalso lower compared to what? C? embedded?Apr 02 20:49
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> >>  At least the salary is lower.Apr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TRbnchs: it matured in dying companyApr 02 20:49
schestowitz-TRmozilla, run by a likely gulag moleApr 02 20:49
DaemonFCIntel is known for firing most people who reach 40 or 45.Apr 02 20:50
DaemonFCIt's well known that once you hit 40 your days are numbered.Apr 02 20:50
schestowitz-TRyou cannot add productivityApr 02 20:50
schestowitz-TRit's like atheletes at 30 Apr 02 20:50
schestowitz-TRyou are past the peakApr 02 20:50
DaemonFCTheir goal is to extract as much work out of you as they can before your salary demands go way up and you develop health problems that cost their group plan lots of money.Apr 02 20:50
schestowitz-TRbut financial demands do not decreaseApr 02 20:50
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: that's a bad approachApr 02 20:51
schestowitz-TRit's like dopingApr 02 20:51
schestowitz-TRor like girls butchering themselves to "look good"Apr 02 20:51
schestowitz-TRthey add up debtApr 02 20:51
schestowitz-TRlike bad health and inflammationApr 02 20:51
DaemonFCYeah, well you see it in the trash that comes out to market, don't you? All the CPU bugs in Intel products for the last 7 or 8 years.Apr 02 20:51
schestowitz-TRinstead they can work more slowly and work towards the means they need coveredApr 02 20:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, I roped in some new firmwares from Intel out of Debian Testing.Apr 02 20:52
schestowitz-TRat age 50 the only added value you have is, you can become manager without being ridiculedApr 02 20:52
DaemonFCBecause they release broken hardware and then "fix it" using firmware kludges later on.Apr 02 20:52
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DaemonFCAnd if the OS doesn't load those firmwares, you have the bugs instead.Apr 02 20:52
schestowitz-TRbecause if you did the job for x+20 years, then "x" colleagues are more likely to tolerate your supposed authorityApr 02 20:53
DaemonFCOften it's security issues, sometimes it's "the entire computer freezes if this situation happens".Apr 02 20:53
DaemonFCJust hundreds of issues.Apr 02 20:53
bnchsrust is a magic wandApr 02 20:53
bnchsyou must use it all you canApr 02 20:53
schestowitz-TRbecause it's NEWApr 02 20:53
schestowitz-TRa new CARGO cultApr 02 20:53
DaemonFCLoadable firmware modules are Intel's way of shipping broken products and not worrying about it too much.Apr 02 20:53
schestowitz-TRwith CoC and Microsoft shiihubApr 02 20:53
DaemonFC20-30 years ago if they fucked up big time they had to recall it.Apr 02 20:54
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22032232Apr 02 20:54
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schestowitz-TRMicrosoft= wokeismApr 02 20:54
DaemonFCThat was expensive.Apr 02 20:54
schestowitz-TRICE = wokeApr 02 20:54
bnchsnever mind the issues like potential UB issues, cross-platform issues Apr 02 20:54
bnchsjust use itApr 02 20:54
DaemonFCNow they can just rewrite parts of your CPU after the fact and get the OS to load the updates on boot time.Apr 02 20:54
bnchswhats that? you're using C?Apr 02 20:54
bnchsdude that language is such memory-unsafeApr 02 20:54
schestowitz-TRbtw, see the libreplanet talk we published about free/lbre gameApr 02 20:54
AdmFubar1schestowitz-TR: was there supposed to be a article on why cnx was offline ... or were you just noting that they were back up in the rss feed headline?Apr 02 20:54
bnchsbecause i saw a bunch of people writing low-quality shit tools on itApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRHe said something Ik strongly agrteee with about using bashApr 02 20:55
bnchstherefore fuck CApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRyou know the interfaces won't break for decades to comeApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRvery stable APIApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRnot sure sdl is still predictableApr 02 20:55
bnchsrust isn't even stableApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRpython and php are notApr 02 20:55
bnchsthere's only one compilerApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRAdmFubar1: there was an articleApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRhang onmApr 02 20:55
schestowitz-TRand he did not elaborateApr 02 20:56
schestowitz-TRwhich seemed a tad strangeApr 02 20:56
schestowitz-TRdispute between him and the hostApr 02 20:56
schestowitz-TR[18:46] <techrights-news> "As you may have noticed in recent days, my domain registrar (HostFast) suspended cnx-software.com domain for what I believe are dubious reasons, meaning the site was inaccessible to the outside world and myself." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/31/how-to-install-a-dns-server-on-your-linux-computer/Apr 02 20:56
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schestowitz-TRI did not read past the beginningApr 02 20:56
schestowitz-TRbut  saw 17 comments are thereApr 02 20:56
DaemonFCAll this vegan crap surfacing in iBotta lately. SIMULATE NUGS (fake chicken).Apr 02 20:56
DaemonFCDalek voice: SIMUUUULATE! SIMULAAAAAATE!Apr 02 20:57
MinceRDELETE!Apr 02 20:57
schestowitz-TRALEXA. DELETE. DALEK.Apr 02 20:57
DaemonFCThat episode of Mr. Bean with him playing with the nativity scene at the department store.Apr 02 20:57
DaemonFCHe borrowed a dalek for it. "EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE!!!!".Apr 02 20:58
MinceR:>Apr 02 20:58
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DaemonFCI'm surprised that didn't get censored out by the BBC for offending Christians.Apr 02 20:59
bnchsAlexa, Text my mom a video of 1 man 1 jarApr 02 20:59
DaemonFCOr that scene with him at church, for that matter.Apr 02 20:59
bnchsTell her it's a funny videoApr 02 20:59
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: it would not be aired todayApr 02 21:00
DaemonFCNo it wouldn't.Apr 02 21:00
DaemonFCIt's like the US where you couldn't do Married With Children now even though it was one of the funniest things on TV back then.Apr 02 21:00
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygUApr 02 21:00
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DaemonFCPeople get old, they get "different".Apr 02 21:01
DaemonFCThey get scared of the entire world. They turn inwards. Their life gets boring anyway, and they know they'll die soon.Apr 02 21:01
schestowitz-TRI watched Married With Children thousands of timesApr 02 21:01
schestowitz-TRliterallyApr 02 21:01
DaemonFCSo perfect conditions to go to church set in around 60 or so.Apr 02 21:01
schestowitz-TRit was on every nightApr 02 21:01
DaemonFCEven if you never did before.Apr 02 21:01
schestowitz-TRI actually mentioned Married With Children to my dad a few days agoApr 02 21:02
schestowitz-TRwe joked about my mom's cousinApr 02 21:02
schestowitz-TR"jefferson"Apr 02 21:02
DaemonFCThe Wankers of Wanker County?Apr 02 21:02
DaemonFC(Peg's family)Apr 02 21:02
DaemonFCIt was hinted that they were from somewhere around Kentucky or Tennessee.Apr 02 21:02
schestowitz-TRJesse from christina appelgate was so terribleApr 02 21:03
schestowitz-TRlike joey from friends with his dumb soloApr 02 21:03
DaemonFCKelly kept dragging teenage boys (or sometimes even adult men) home and it was frequently cited that she was having sex with all of them.Apr 02 21:03
schestowitz-TRlarry david/curb your enthusiasmApr 02 21:04
DaemonFCAl responed by beating them all up.Apr 02 21:04
DaemonFCTHAT would never be allowed now.Apr 02 21:04
DaemonFC*respondedApr 02 21:04
*schestowitz-TR checks is ed o'neal is still aliveApr 02 21:04
DaemonFCHe is.Apr 02 21:04
DaemonFCHe's been in some things but it's all SJW-approved, so it's not funny.Apr 02 21:05
DaemonFCHe cashes the paychecks I guess. He probably doesn't even like doing it.Apr 02 21:05
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_O%27NeillApr 02 21:05
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schestowitz75 y-oApr 02 21:05
DaemonFCmjg59_ -types have ruined the ability for anything to be funny anymore.Apr 02 21:05
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DaemonFCThey actually did what "that woman from Michigan" set out to do when she complained to the FCC about Married With Children.Apr 02 21:06
schestowitz7 years agoApr 02 21:06
DaemonFCAt the time the FCC basically told her to go pound sand.Apr 02 21:06
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_BundyApr 02 21:07
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DaemonFCIt was all about that episode where Al and Jefferson went to the sex shop and there were gay jokes (which I thought were pretty funny).Apr 02 21:07
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school_footballApr 02 21:07
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DaemonFCI make jokes about gay people sometimes when I think something is absurd, and I'm gay.Apr 02 21:07
schestowitz-TRthat was US before walmartisationApr 02 21:08
schestowitz-TRalso before windows 95Apr 02 21:08
schestowitz-TRi.e. when a real computer industry still existedApr 02 21:08
schestowitz-TRand US manufactured a lot of itApr 02 21:08
DaemonFCWe were on the bus in Chicago one day and I leaned over and I told John "I guess they move here when they turn into The Pet Shop Boys." and pointed to a couple that were getting off the bus in Rogers Park.Apr 02 21:08
schestowitz-TR[21:07] <DaemonFC> I make jokes about gay people sometimes when I think something is absurd, and I'm gay.Apr 02 21:09
schestowitz-TR"self-hating gay"Apr 02 21:09
schestowitz-TRintrospection is heresyApr 02 21:09
DaemonFCThen we were on the bus in South Shore and there was one dipping his fingers in peanut butter and licking it all off and then they started kissing each other (with tongue) and I told him "Who knew this bus went through Indiana?".Apr 02 21:10
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DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> introspection is heresyApr 02 21:11
DaemonFCIf you make a joke that offends anyone, you're EVIL EVIL EVIL!Apr 02 21:11
schestowitz-TRi can tolerate public kissing if it's like a nightclubApr 02 21:11
schestowitz-TRand people might be drunkApr 02 21:11
schestowitz-TRand might be meeting for the first timeApr 02 21:12
mjg59_DaemonFC: "A poor craftsman blames his tools" doesn't mean that there are no bad tools. A good craftsman picks good tools.Apr 02 21:12
bnchsmjg59_: but the tool in this case is a very permissive low-level languageApr 02 21:12
mjg59_C is an effective tool, but also a dangerous oneApr 02 21:12
bnchsyes a dangerous oneApr 02 21:12
bnchsbecause with great powers, comes great responsibility Apr 02 21:13
coopidmost tools are dangerouseApr 02 21:13
mjg59_The idea that nothing could satisfy most of the same use cases without being less dangerous is ridiculousApr 02 21:13
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*DaemonFC replaces mjg59_'s hedge trimmers with something out of the toy aisle at Walmart and then asks him to do some landscaping.Apr 02 21:13
DaemonFCYou'll like the toy better. It's safe!Apr 02 21:13
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schestowitz-TRI still use a shaver/trimmer from around 1995Apr 02 21:14
bnchsyou have to be responsible and learn how to overcome problems Apr 02 21:14
schestowitz-TRI have not even chaged the bladesApr 02 21:14
bnchsthese are the requirements for CApr 02 21:14
mjg59_DaemonFC: I'm not clear what analogy you're trying to draw here. What does C usefully allow you to do that Rust doesn't?Apr 02 21:14
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schestowitz-TRRust is a lot of hype s farApr 02 21:14
bnchsmjg59_: implement something without the borrow checker sperging like an autist?Apr 02 21:14
schestowitz-TRthey bury issuesApr 02 21:14
schestowitz-TRthey ban peopleApr 02 21:14
schestowitz-TRthen scare away their ownApr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TRmany people quitApr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TReven high-level peopleApr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TRthey have a retention isuseApr 02 21:15
DaemonFCMy parents were pretty awesome in some ways. I asked my dad why there was a safety bar on the lawnmower and who could possibly be stupid enough to stand in front of a running lawnmower, much less a self-propelled one. (I was like 6 or 7 I think.)Apr 02 21:15
mjg59_bnchs: If the borrow checker is unhappy then chances are writing the same code in C would be buggyApr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TRand now they advertise funding from chinese tech giants and bezosApr 02 21:15
bnchsif you cant be responsible and learn from your mistakes Apr 02 21:15
DaemonFCHe goes, "Oh probably some Mexicans ran over their foot and sued the company.".Apr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TRrust is no mozilla or communityApr 02 21:15
bnchsthen rust is for youApr 02 21:15
bnchsmjg59_: linked list is buggy?Apr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TRit's just some corporate toollApr 02 21:15
schestowitz-TRand it's controlled by microsoft for a lot of thingsApr 02 21:15
mjg59_The problem with C is that your mistakes don't just affect youApr 02 21:15
DaemonFCSo we'd save those twist ties that came with loaves of bread and use it to hold down the safety bar on the mower so it wouldn't turn off if you let go of the handle.Apr 02 21:16
bnchsthere's no perfect programsApr 02 21:16
bnchsevery program has it's own security vulnerabilities, probably left undiscoveredApr 02 21:16
DaemonFCOnly a fucking idiot would ever stand in front of a self-propelled lawn mower. But there's plenty of fucking idiots, so we all have to suffer.Apr 02 21:16
schestowitz-TRrust's trajectory is the same as mozilla's. like father, like son.Apr 02 21:17
DaemonFCAnd now there's more sensors on cars too, more coming.Apr 02 21:17
mjg59_bnchs: It's true, but choosing the right language means that certain types of security vulnerability simply don't existApr 02 21:17
DaemonFCAnd twist ties from the bread won't save the smart people anymore.Apr 02 21:17
coopidecho "hello" is a perfect programApr 02 21:17
bnchsmjg59_: such as alignment issues in rust's instructions?Apr 02 21:17
bnchscoopid: depends on IO libraryApr 02 21:17
coopidthats behond the scoopApr 02 21:18
bnchsif you wanna treat yourself like a babyApr 02 21:18
techrights-newsFun with Linux Terminal: Running a Hollywood style hacking scene to amuse your friends - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O-s2CUeQyNA "amuse your friends" is a very dumb reason to do anything. ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaApr 02 21:18
bnchsthen use rust for all i careApr 02 21:18
psydruidI'm looking at job advertisements in Berlin and I only see BS jobsApr 02 21:18
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psydruidis that the state of this industry?Apr 02 21:19
mjg59_bnchs: So why complain about it?Apr 02 21:19
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: yes!!!Apr 02 21:19
mjg59_It sounds like you do careApr 02 21:19
bnchsyes i doApr 02 21:19
schestowitz-TRclownops smartops berlinoooopsApr 02 21:19
bnchsi get people saying i should rewrite in rustApr 02 21:19
bnchsand i wanna say that rust isnt a magic wand to your problems so you dont have to deal with themApr 02 21:19
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DaemonFCI've never used a lawn mower with an intact shutoff system. They annoy me. They moved it from a bar you have to hold down to a switch further down the line that kills the ignition if you completely let go of the accelerator bar. So I used a self-tapping screw to put in a striker plate that keeps the switch from turning off.Apr 02 21:21
DaemonFCThey get nastier with this safety stuff all the time, schestowitz-TR Apr 02 21:21
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mjg59_bnchs: No language is going to solve all your problems. But getting rid of memory unsafety gets rid of a *lot* of security problems that exist in the real world.Apr 02 21:22
DaemonFCIf you stand in front of a lawnmower that's running then you deserve what happens. Not sorry.Apr 02 21:22
bnchsmjg59_: because i hate rustApr 02 21:22
techrights-news"Spending less and less time on each track in Weeklybeats is making me a little nervous as to whether I will be able to finish such a marathon." https://blog.jimmac.eu/2022/less-is-more/Apr 02 21:22
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bnchsgod damn it lateApr 02 21:22
mjg59_DaemonFC: The analogy here is "If you use code someone else wrote in C, you deserve what happens"Apr 02 21:22
bnchsbut anywayApr 02 21:22
bnchsmjg59_: yes and its called learning the basic rules of memory allocationApr 02 21:23
DaemonFCmjg59_, Windows certainly can't be fixed, and will never be fixed.Apr 02 21:23
mjg59_bnchs: All the evidence suggests that learning the basic rules of memory allocation isn't sufficient to avoid memory safety issuesApr 02 21:23
bnchsrust is another problem i have to dealApr 02 21:23
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bnchsporting rust code to PS3 is absolutely impossibleApr 02 21:24
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DaemonFCBut you refuse to criticize Microsoft or do anything to really interfere with their plans. In fact, the corruption of the FSF is that they gave YOU an award for putting Security Theater Boot in Free Software.Apr 02 21:24
DaemonFCThat way, Microsoft's ass is covered as long as they permit anything else to run on a computer that comes with Windows.Apr 02 21:24
bnchsmjg59_: what can i say is that i have used C for a long timeApr 02 21:24
DaemonFCRegardless of it it is what the owner of the computer wants to use.Apr 02 21:24
bnchsand i have never had a problem with itApr 02 21:24
bnchsand there's memory leak debuggers like valgrindApr 02 21:25
mjg59_And there's unexercised code paths that are only triggered on error conditions on certain inputsApr 02 21:25
DaemonFCYou always seem to fall back to "the owner controls Secure Boot" in the setup program, but most of the time, they do not.Apr 02 21:25
DaemonFCThe manufacturer just compiles the firmware to hide all of the advanced setup options.Apr 02 21:25
DaemonFCSo they're in the specification, but not in the reality.Apr 02 21:26
mjg59_DaemonFC: I keep saying that if someone can point at a computer that has no mechanism for key enrollment, I will buy one of those computers and verify thatApr 02 21:26
bnchsmjg59_: make test casesApr 02 21:26
mjg59_And so far literally nobody has!Apr 02 21:26
DaemonFCLenovo Yoga 900 ISK2 completely hides it.Apr 02 21:26
mjg59_bnchs: You're going to test-case every single argument to ioctl()?Apr 02 21:26
DaemonFCYou can turn it on or off, nothing else.Apr 02 21:26
bnchsi dont use ioctlApr 02 21:26
DaemonFCI didn't even look real hard on this laptop (a ThinkBook 15 ITL Gen2), admittedly.Apr 02 21:27
DaemonFCI turned it off and never thought about it again.Apr 02 21:27
bnchsi'm using C because its very portableApr 02 21:27
bnchsunlike rustApr 02 21:27
DaemonFCI got plenty of PROBLEMS with Secure Boot on with the 900 ISK2, including Fedora failing to boot because Ubuntu "updated the dbx".Apr 02 21:27
DaemonFCWhich requires a factory reset of the firmware.Apr 02 21:28
DaemonFCJust nasty shit, really.Apr 02 21:28
activelowi think, the memory-safety issue, is specific to van Neumann, Harvard architecture (to separate code and data with strict permissions) is less proneApr 02 21:28
DaemonFCThat's all you get with Security Theater Boot, is nasty shit.,Apr 02 21:28
DaemonFCIt's full of bugs, and the manufacturers don't have to give you control of it, and some don't.Apr 02 21:28
bnchsmjg59_: i cant port rust to the PS3 because of the compiler backendApr 02 21:28
psydruidbnchs, does rust on ps3 create binaries that crash due to unaligned memory accesses?Apr 02 21:29
bnchsrust code*Apr 02 21:29
DaemonFCIf you can turn it off, turn it off. If it's off, it can't fuck up.Apr 02 21:29
bnchspsydruid: never triedApr 02 21:29
bnchsPS3 homebrew community literally dumped everything rustApr 02 21:29
DaemonFCThat's the situation around uEFI. "Just boot my computer please. Turn all of this other shit off. If you touch anything you'll only make it worse."Apr 02 21:29
activelowand with rust-lang, i consider the memory-safety a compiler-feature, not a language-feature itselfApr 02 21:30
psydruidclosed source firmware for the host processor = instant noApr 02 21:30
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DaemonFCAnything that says "Secure Boot" or "Trusted" or whatnot, turn it off if you can. That way you're much less likely to end up with weird bugs that may even render the system unbootable and the firmware stuck in some crazy undefined state that doesn't work.Apr 02 21:31
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activelowit is confused, for political reasons, because compiler extensions for C language exist tooApr 02 21:31
psydruidso it doesn't matter whatever someone says to rationalize itApr 02 21:31
psydruidit's not going to convince me to buy any of that hardwareApr 02 21:31
DaemonFCmjg59_, So I'm sure there's 900 ISK2s out there. You can buy one cheap. Just make sure you get the ISK2. You will find the user can turn Security Theater Boot on and off and there's nothing else except "reset".Apr 02 21:31
activelowand the rust-lang crowd is agitating for their language, which builds upon latest compiler features, which are available with C language tooApr 02 21:32
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DaemonFCAnd then you acknowledge that the user just doesn't have any meaningful control over it just because it's in a spec somewhere. Doesn't mean that's how anyone will ship it.Apr 02 21:32
DaemonFCThey don't care what the specification says. They give you the bare minimum Microsoft requires, which as of Windows 10 was "on or off".Apr 02 21:33
DaemonFCI don't even know about whether you're guaranteed THAT with Windows "11".Apr 02 21:33
activelowbtw. TinyCC contains a bounds-checker too, i couldn't review this yetApr 02 21:33
DaemonFCAnd even on or off was only guaranteed on x86 systems, nothing else.Apr 02 21:34
activelowand the W^X feature isnt' a language feature either, it is implemented by both the MMU and kernelApr 02 21:34
DaemonFCIf you buy a Windows computer that uses ARM, you're wasting 100% of your money.Apr 02 21:34
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft wasted money trying to get it to workApr 02 21:34
DaemonFCThey're not good for anything because nobody tolerates Windows for anything other than backwards compatibility with itself.Apr 02 21:34
schestowitz-TRnow it's just busy vandalising and pooing in our yard, isnetadApr 02 21:35
schestowitz-TRit's the only way to competeApr 02 21:35
DaemonFCAnd they're even dumb enough to break that on x86 now.Apr 02 21:35
schestowitz-TRmake sure gnu/linux becomes just as unreliable as windowsApr 02 21:35
DaemonFCSo fewer people will even see the point except "path of least resistance". The junk came with the PC.Apr 02 21:35
DaemonFCA few years ago, Lenovo shipped computers with malware preinstalled. It was terrible. It spewed ads everywhere, it had horrible security holes, it sent your information to untrustworthy organizations.....Apr 02 21:36
activelowmany cortex ARM (the non-heterogenous big.LITTLE ones) are mostly more secure by default (memory safety) in comparison to x86Apr 02 21:37
DaemonFCThey said it was solved when Superfish was no longer bundled, but Windows meets the same definition.Apr 02 21:37
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activelowmostly they are not affected by the spectre/meltdown out-of-order race conditions; and the W^X memory permissions are handled more strict than x86 by defaultApr 02 21:37
bnchsactivelow: how dare you say thatApr 02 21:38
DaemonFCI actually made a parody song about Lenovo at the time to the tune of Super Freak.Apr 02 21:38
bnchsrust is better than CApr 02 21:38
activelowsomewhat ironic, cortex a7 or cortex a53 are available for a few dollars; while x86 ask for 10x the price with theirsApr 02 21:38
DaemonFC'Super Fish! Super Fish! It's super fishy!"Apr 02 21:38
psydruidWindows on ARM will go down with Windows itself, but it's a very marginal thing in contrast with the billions of ARM chips that are being used with other operating systems such as GNU/Linux and various RTOSesApr 02 21:39
activelowbnchs: maybe; nonetheless the memory-safety of rust-lang; i don't consider this a language feature, it is a compiler featureApr 02 21:39
DaemonFCWindows on ARM is a pipe dream that they waste money on.Apr 02 21:39
techrights-newsFuzzy search for C++ Reference, Qt documentation and more from shell, Vim or Neovim • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163287Apr 02 21:39
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bnchsnoApr 02 21:39
psydruidthey have to keep up appearances at leastApr 02 21:39
bnchsthe only good thing about rust is the "memory safety"Apr 02 21:40
DaemonFCThey try to tax Android using patents and use the money to prop up the stuff someone's smoking crack with.Apr 02 21:40
bnchsthe syntax is godawful bullshitApr 02 21:40
DaemonFCProbably the only thing Windows on ARM will ever do is cost them money.Apr 02 21:40
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: they blackmail samsungApr 02 21:40
schestowitz-TRinto propping up their clownApr 02 21:40
psydruidwhat will investors say when they realize Microsoft can't compete in the market for ARM hardware, no matter what they tryApr 02 21:40
schestowitz-TRmore patent lawsuits if they don't surrenderApr 02 21:40
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft = crimeApr 02 21:41
schestowitz-TRbullies, mafia, gangstersApr 02 21:41
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schestowitz-TRdon't worry, Donald Biden and Joe Trump will bail them outApr 02 21:41
psydruidApple is actually shipping millions of ARM systems and so is Raspberry PiApr 02 21:41
schestowitz-TRbecause "RUSHA"Apr 02 21:41
psydruidMicrosoft OEMS a few hundred thousand at mostApr 02 21:42
activelowi think rust-lang is a utility, to re-implement software which was written in c/c++ elsewhere with undesireable licenses for those who prefer rust-langApr 02 21:42
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: some companies want to buy ARMApr 02 21:42
schestowitz-TRinc. IntelApr 02 21:42
schestowitz-TRobv. a bigger antitrust issue thsn nvidiaApr 02 21:42
DaemonFCThe reason you still see Windows XP around is because Windows Vista was so bloated that it set them back for YEARS.Apr 02 21:42
schestowitz-TRlatestagecapitalism: state connected  companies buy everythingApr 02 21:42
schestowitz-TRand are sponsored by taxpayersApr 02 21:42
activelowif software is transpiled into rust-lang, they can claim a new license for the software (potentially violating GPL or any other license of what was written in C/C++ long before)Apr 02 21:43
DaemonFCThere's still point of sale systems that can't use anything newer than "POSReady 2009".Apr 02 21:43
DaemonFCWhich is XP.Apr 02 21:43
psydruidI doubt it's going to work out this time eitherApr 02 21:43
*activelow will never accept rust-lang or llvm/clangApr 02 21:43
schestowitz-TRwine has better windows compat than xpApr 02 21:43
DaemonFCMy optometrist is still using Windows XP.Apr 02 21:43
schestowitz-TRand some distros are gentler on h/wApr 02 21:43
bnchsactivelow: it means less cross-platformApr 02 21:43
schestowitz-TRso there is no reason to run xp anymoreApr 02 21:43
bnchsand more unreadable syntaxApr 02 21:43
bnchsall of that forApr 02 21:44
bnchs"memory safety"Apr 02 21:44
schestowitz-TRjust throw xfce4 with wine on a mchineaApr 02 21:44
DaemonFCHe said if he replaced it he'd have to buy a new $50,000 device because they didn't produce software that worked with it for a later version of Windows.Apr 02 21:44
schestowitz-TRand you get a "modern" browser, tooApr 02 21:44
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: typical windowsApr 02 21:44
schestowitz-TRand speaking of rustApr 02 21:44
schestowitz-TRdue to changing apisApr 02 21:44
DaemonFCI said, "No, really it'll be your customers paying for it when that thing craps out because the vendor wanted planned obsolescence with Windows.".Apr 02 21:45
schestowitz-TRand lakc of h/w support, just because...Apr 02 21:45
activelowbnchs: i consider BaphometOS among the most secure, even removed some of the memory-safety features _intentionally_; and there isn't a single line of rust-lang anywhereApr 02 21:45
psydruidI only have Vista 10 in a VM on my main laptopApr 02 21:45
bnchsgood for youApr 02 21:45
bnchsexcept the vista 10Apr 02 21:45
bnchsbut i hate rudtApr 02 21:45
bnchsrust*Apr 02 21:45
schestowitz-TRwindows+rust=windo jamsApr 02 21:46
MinceR02 221423 < mjg59_> DaemonFC: I'm not clear what analogy you're trying to draw here. What does C usefully allow you to do that Rust doesn't?Apr 02 21:46
MinceRimplement something that will also build next year?Apr 02 21:46
mjg59_DaemonFC: Digging through the firmware, there's a "Reset to Setup Mode" optionApr 02 21:46
mjg59_DaemonFC: Once you do that, you can enroll new keys from the OSApr 02 21:47
psydruidI need to make sure some of the stuff I write compiles and runs on vista, so that VM is seeing a few hours of use per year before it gets nukedApr 02 21:47
DaemonFCThe reference implementation of libopus is written in C89. It works fine.Apr 02 21:47
DaemonFCYou can even compile it for Windows 95.Apr 02 21:47
bnchsDaemonFC: you cant do that with rustApr 02 21:47
DaemonFCProbable even Windows 3.1 through Win32s. I've just not tried.Apr 02 21:47
bnchsbecause rust is all about bresking compatibilityApr 02 21:48
bnchseven with decade old consoles and shitApr 02 21:48
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DaemonFCYes, I have an Opus plug-in for Winamp 2.Apr 02 21:48
DaemonFCIt works on Windows 95.Apr 02 21:48
MinceRalso, with C, i can write code that at least 2 implementations can compileApr 02 21:48
bnchsrust doesnt have much compatibilityApr 02 21:48
MinceRi can do both of those things also in C++Apr 02 21:49
bnchswith rust, you can write code that will only last half a year before breakingApr 02 21:49
bnchswith C: you can write code that can last foreverApr 02 21:49
MinceRwith C and C++, i can also write code that one can build without becoming a vassal to MICROS~1Apr 02 21:49
DaemonFCCan Microsoft also push malware to it that formats your disk if you live in Russia?Apr 02 21:49
DaemonFCThat's the really important feature. Like they can with NPM.Apr 02 21:49
bnchsalso theres platforms like the PS3Apr 02 21:50
bnchsthat only has C library interface to the systemsApr 02 21:50
bnchslike libgcmApr 02 21:50
*psydruid doesn't even know how to work with NPMApr 02 21:50
MinceRgetting your code to execute on a PS3 is an ordeal anywayApr 02 21:50
MinceRit wasn't meant to be programmed by anyone other than sony's vassalsApr 02 21:50
bnchsit does have a free software homebrew SDK Apr 02 21:51
DaemonFCGetting your Windows program from the Windows XP era to work on Windows 10 is already dicey. I'm sure Windows 11 found even more ways to break it.Apr 02 21:51
DaemonFCIt works fine on Wine.Apr 02 21:51
bnchsand a bunch of leaked proprietary Sony SDKsApr 02 21:51
bnchsbut just pick the free SDKApr 02 21:51
MinceRand that free SDK exists against sony's wishes and effortsApr 02 21:51
bnchsand only the proprietary if you really need shit like SPRXApr 02 21:51
MinceRthe whole gaming console business model is that you pay to access the platform as a developerApr 02 21:51
*psydruid shied away from buying a used PowerXCell server due to high power consumptionApr 02 21:51
bnchsMinceR: its just a gcc cross-compiler to CELL CPUApr 02 21:51
bnchsand like a entire toolchainApr 02 21:52
DaemonFCDon't worry. You can still use whatever happens to work on Windows 10 for a few more years until Microshit lets it bitrot and cuts new systems off from running it and refuses to patch all of the holes that people find in it.Apr 02 21:52
bnchsand some free PS3 toolsApr 02 21:52
DaemonFCThen you can just lose ANOTHER batch of programs to Vista 11.Apr 02 21:52
DaemonFCEvery version of Windows causes thousands of programs to stop working.Apr 02 21:52
bnchsMinceR: "access the platform as a developer" yes but you also have to pay sony if you wanna publish the PKG file to their PSN storeApr 02 21:52
DaemonFCIn return, you get a version of Windows that's even more bloated and slow, and packed with more nasty things no users would ask for (spyware and ads from Microsoft, for starters).Apr 02 21:53
bnchsthe SDK is free but you have to pay sony to publish it to the PSN store*Apr 02 21:53
psydruidby that time Vista 12 will be out, which will be an even bigger success than Vista 11Apr 02 21:53
DaemonFCWindows "upgrades" are something nobody looks forward to unless they don't happen to use ANY programs that are more than a few years old.Apr 02 21:53
MinceRbnchs: that's what i meantApr 02 21:53
psydruidWindows will cause itself to stop workingApr 02 21:54
bnchsyeahApr 02 21:54
DaemonFCAnd even at that, the process usually gets hung up and it manages to corrupt itself and require a clean install anyway.Apr 02 21:54
psydruidThe EndApr 02 21:54
DaemonFCWhether it manages to boot afterwards or not.Apr 02 21:54
bnchsbut Sony cant do shit about the free SDKApr 02 21:54
bnchsbut its just a bunch of tools built off of reverse engineered documentationsApr 02 21:54
bnchsand cross-compilersApr 02 21:54
techrights-newsRadio for GNOME 42 is here, there and everywhere • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163288Apr 02 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radio for GNOME 42 is here, there and everywhere | Tux MachinesApr 02 21:54
psydruidhow does Vista 11 work on the latest and greatest hardware anyway?Apr 02 21:54
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163289Apr 02 21:55
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DaemonFCOne big problem is that Microsoft can't anticipate anything the user has done post-install. They've even had installers for a new version of Windows fail because someone moved the taskbar. "Something happened. Something happened.".Apr 02 21:55
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DaemonFCIt's the most unprofessional piece of shit there is. So why use it?Apr 02 21:55
schestowitz-TROEM crimesApr 02 21:55
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft crimesApr 02 21:55
schestowitz-TRbribes, corruptionApr 02 21:55
schestowitz-TRthey don't sell windows to PEOPLEApr 02 21:55
schestowitz-TRthey sell it to OEMsApr 02 21:56
schestowitz-TRthey bribe themApr 02 21:56
schestowitz-TRor blackmail them with patentsApr 02 21:56
DaemonFCTheir response to the taskbar bug hanging the new Windows installers wasn't to fix the bug. It was to lock the taskbar to the bottom of the screen.Apr 02 21:56
schestowitz-TRthen they bribe the regime tooApr 02 21:56
schestowitz-TRobama, trump, biden...Apr 02 21:56
bnchsDaemonFC: thats what you get when you build your OS off of towers and towers of technical debt and rushed developmentApr 02 21:56
activelowmicrosoft windows did fully implement LDAP/Kerberos (ActiveDirectory) which is their selling point in the enterprise realmApr 02 21:56
bnchsit starts crashing because it doesnt anticipate something obscureApr 02 21:56
schestowitz-TR'enterprise'Apr 02 21:57
schestowitz-TRgluing together clown stuffApr 02 21:57
schestowitz-TRI see it every day at workApr 02 21:57
schestowitz-TRcompanies think outsourcing is "smart"Apr 02 21:57
schestowitz-TRand the disservices keep shutting downApr 02 21:57
activelowthe relevant term is distributed system, not cloudApr 02 21:57
schestowitz-TRso they keep running form one clown to another clownApr 02 21:57
schestowitz-TRit's an expensive circusApr 02 21:57
DaemonFCOne of the reasons why I decided on Debian and not Ubuntu is because I don't think Snaps are very well designed.Apr 02 21:57
chunkysnaps are an abomination!Apr 02 21:58
DaemonFCAnd I don't like being pushed to use software installers that don't let me add sources from someone else.Apr 02 21:58
schestowitz-TRactivelow: distributed outwardsApr 02 21:58
DaemonFCI use Flatpaks on Debian.Apr 02 21:58
schestowitz-TRchunky: snaps are lazinessApr 02 21:58
schestowitz-TRcan't be bother to build properlyApr 02 21:58
DaemonFCSo my base system is all served (well, mostly) by Debian, and many of my applications are the current versions through Flatpak.Apr 02 21:58
schestowitz-TRso I made a jiffy bag of binaries right there, like containersApr 02 21:59
DaemonFCHaving a base system with a lot of lulz and changing a lot is not helpful.Apr 02 21:59
schestowitz-TRit's how they ship their CRappsApr 02 21:59
schestowitz-TRlike in mobile phones, another messApr 02 21:59
DaemonFCBut neither is having applications that are several versions behind.Apr 02 21:59
DaemonFCSo now I can have the best of both worlds.Apr 02 21:59
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DaemonFCMinceR, Your lives as they have been are over. You will exist to service us! -Locutus of BorgApr 02 22:00
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schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: you assume all will consolidate on the sameApr 02 22:00
schestowitz-TRand then you end up with many appimages lying aroundApr 02 22:00
schestowitz-TRand snapd running as a daemonApr 02 22:00
schestowitz-TRand flatpak demanding you reboot your machineApr 02 22:00
DaemonFCEvery once in a while I have to run flatpak remove --unusedApr 02 22:00
DaemonFCAnd it cleans up orphan platform stuff, but yeah.Apr 02 22:00
schestowitz-TRand some application may stop delivering builds in these channelsApr 02 22:00
DaemonFCOther than some occasional cleanup, it's not terrible.Apr 02 22:01
mjg59_DaemonFC: Anyway send me a link to a Yoga 900 13ISK2 and I'll buy it as long as you agree to pay me back if you're wrongApr 02 22:01
DaemonFCmjg59_, I have a better offer.Apr 02 22:01
DaemonFCI'll take pictures of what LOL NO! Vo did to it and post them.Apr 02 22:01
mjg59_Sure, just show me a picture of the security menu in the firmwareApr 02 22:02
DaemonFCAnd you can tell me exactly what in the fuck I'm supposed to do with that on the theory I want to set it up myself.Apr 02 22:02
bnchsmjg59_: hahaha sureApr 02 22:02
mjg59_Works for meApr 02 22:02
bnchsbuy the computerApr 02 22:02
bnchsthen when you find out the truthApr 02 22:02
bnchsill ghost youApr 02 22:02
bnchs100% wasted moneyApr 02 22:02
mjg59_True, I do already know he's a liarApr 02 22:03
mjg59_The whole thing where he signed me up for a bunch of spam lists and then denied itApr 02 22:03
bnchs"oh geez it wasnt me who signed you up for a gay porn website"Apr 02 22:04
DaemonFCI didn't see anything called "Custom Mode" or where I can add or delete anything. In fact, OpenSUSE did ask to install their signing key, which works....But there's no way to remove them except "RESET", which leaves Microsoft's, and you cannot remove Microsoft's and distrust Microsoft.Apr 02 22:04
bnchs"well tough luck"Apr 02 22:04
mjg59_DaemonFC: Once you're in setup mode you can just rewrite kek and dbApr 02 22:04
mjg59_They're not append-onlyApr 02 22:05
DaemonFCIt seems like all that can be done is to add new ones, through whatever means OpenSUSE is using.Apr 02 22:05
DaemonFCBut there's no fine grained control for the user.Apr 02 22:05
DaemonFCYou can't even see what's in there.Apr 02 22:05
mjg59_Yes you can - you just read the variablesApr 02 22:05
DaemonFCJust some big stupid global RESET button.Apr 02 22:05
DaemonFCSo, they've done this in the most user-hostile way possible?Apr 02 22:06
mjg59_There's a standard interface to that, you don't need the firmware to give you another oneApr 02 22:06
DaemonFCWhy exactly?Apr 02 22:06
mjg59_If by "The most user-hostile way possible" you mean "They've allowed to to use the standard tools", sureApr 02 22:06
DaemonFCWhy isn't there a menu that says "Microsoft put this one in." "OpenSUSE put this one in." "Ubuntu did this."?Apr 02 22:07
mjg59_Because there are already OS tools that tell you that?Apr 02 22:07
DaemonFCAnd you can just add or remove them as you see fit from the firmware setup tool.Apr 02 22:07
DaemonFCIn fact, I seem to recall that the code for that is already in there, Lenovo just hid it.Apr 02 22:07
mjg59_I'd prefer this to be done in the OS rather than the firmware - less probability of the firmware fucking it upApr 02 22:07
DaemonFCBecause that guy that used the external flasher to flash in a patched BIOS that unhides AHCI mode also added back other options Lenovo hid.Apr 02 22:08
DaemonFCAnd some of them pertain to Secure Boot.Apr 02 22:08
mjg59_I don't think you get to complain that firmware is too complicated and also complain that the firmware should do moreApr 02 22:08
mjg59_Anyway, glad we've got that sortedApr 02 22:08
DaemonFCIt's there, but they hid it, forcing the user to use other tools, but sometimes Lenovo added code that resets it once you use those other tools and reboot.Apr 02 22:08
DaemonFCYeah, not shitty and complicated at all.Apr 02 22:08
DaemonFCThank you Matthew.Apr 02 22:08
mjg59_Always glad to help outApr 02 22:09
DaemonFCAlong the way to dealing with that storage controller mode fuckery back in 2016, someone DID set it using UEFI Shell.Apr 02 22:09
psydruidMatthew IDGAFMANApr 02 22:09
DaemonFCThen it turned out Lenovo wrote more code to set it back so you couldn't make it persist, in addition to hiding the AHCI code and GUI toggle that were in the default firmware.Apr 02 22:10
psydruidshow me the money!Apr 02 22:10
DaemonFCI wasn't the only one that was furious that I bought a laptop and found out it was all gimpy and could only run Windows because "reasons".Apr 02 22:10
psydruidx86 is like being in the MatrixApr 02 22:11
MinceR02 230621 < DaemonFC> So, they've done this in the most user-hostile way possible?Apr 02 22:11
MinceRthat's pretty much the point of uefiApr 02 22:11
DaemonFCAnd I bought it because a blogger said it ran Ubuntu fine and then found out they made a very subtle change to the model number and did THIS in the process.Apr 02 22:11
MinceRat least the way MICROS~1 requires it to be for their certificationsApr 02 22:11
bnchsDaemonFC: disable secure boot?Apr 02 22:11
DaemonFCYou know, after I was slimed by, well, everyone, and realized I was going to get no help from Lenovo or the media exposure.....Apr 02 22:12
DaemonFCI filed a case with the Attorney General's office.Apr 02 22:12
DaemonFCThen Lenovo contacted me and offered to fix it.Apr 02 22:12
bnchslolApr 02 22:13
bnchslenovo is a big microsoft shillApr 02 22:13
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psydruidbnchs, I think that was not possible with his uefi, because they removed that settingApr 02 22:13
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DaemonFCAfter they put out a blurb stating that they didn't want it to run "Linux" because the hinge was designed for Windows 10. I replied to that stating that GNOME went to Tablet Mode and the Virtual Keyboard actually worked 100% of the time, unlike in Windows 10.Apr 02 22:13
bnchslenovo is a big piece of shitApr 02 22:13
bnchsunlike before it was boughtApr 02 22:13
DaemonFCIn Windows 10, you flip it over and the Virtual Keyboard basically only recognizes Microsoft apps.Apr 02 22:13
bnchsby some chineseApr 02 22:13
DaemonFCSo in Edge, you get a keyboard, in Firefox you don't.Apr 02 22:14
DaemonFCThings like that.Apr 02 22:14
DaemonFCmjg59_, Opinion?Apr 02 22:14
DaemonFCOh, in Fedora with GNOME, the keyboard worked with all sorts of things it didn't under Windows. Like in Windows, you open LibreOffice, nothing happens. No keyboard.Apr 02 22:15
DaemonFCYou just sit there tapping on it, no keyboard in Windows. Only in Microsoft Office.Apr 02 22:15
DaemonFCI had a "free trial".Apr 02 22:15
bnchsfuck lenovoApr 02 22:15
bnchsfuck OEMs that build UEFI with no secure boot optionsApr 02 22:16
DaemonFCAbsolutely! They've gotten a bit better after that.Apr 02 22:16
bnchsfuck OEMs that force windowsApr 02 22:16
schestowitz-TRbribesApr 02 22:16
bnchsthere's no incentive to do thisApr 02 22:16
psydruidOEMs are Microsoft's customersApr 02 22:16
bnchsunless microsoft bribed them to do itApr 02 22:16
psydruidand they want this controlApr 02 22:17
DaemonFCDebian works so much better. It never EVER does something stupid and unexpected on the level that Windows does at least once or twice a week.Apr 02 22:17
psydruidwith GNU/Linux they don't have this control over your systemsApr 02 22:17
*activelow sighsApr 02 22:17
psydruidespecially when there are no ME/PSP backdoorsApr 02 22:18
psydruidso screw them and let them die instead of rewarding them with your hard-earned cashApr 02 22:18
DaemonFCI don't think MinceR has actually seen Windows recently. If he had, he'd know that GNOME isn't in the same ballpark when it comes to mental retardation. Windows went to hyperspace and is about a million light years out ahead of the most retarded thing you've encountered on "Linux".Apr 02 22:18
bnchsdudeApr 02 22:18
bnchsi was in a computer storeApr 02 22:19
bnchsand was surprised by some login screen that looked like KDE's login screenApr 02 22:19
bnchsi press enter, and it was just windows 11Apr 02 22:19
DaemonFCHad they just left well enough alone with Windows 7 I don't think they'd be hemorrhaging Windows users like this, but you know....They went "there" with Windows 8.Apr 02 22:19
MinceRi've seen Backdoors a few minutes agoApr 02 22:19
MinceRi haven't seen GNOME in a while, thoughApr 02 22:19
DaemonFCWindows is just totally falling apart.Apr 02 22:19
DaemonFCIt smells of apathy and disgruntled labor.Apr 02 22:20
bnchswindows is literally just a copy of KDEApr 02 22:20
bnchsthey copy KDE and change it a bitApr 02 22:20
psydruida bad copyApr 02 22:20
psydruidbecause internally it's still the same spaghettiApr 02 22:20
psydruidwant some sauce with that?Apr 02 22:20
psydruidQt is also going in that direction, thoughApr 02 22:22
psydruidDave Plumber's been pulling his Mario trickApr 02 22:23
bnchsoh what is he doingApr 02 22:24
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22032212Apr 02 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/p74s1s52j4o81.jpg created on 2022-03-22 03:41:05.141781Apr 02 22:26
psydruidmaking excuses for why Linux has "problems"Apr 02 22:26
psydruidI think you said that last timeApr 02 22:27
bnchsyes like a softie who never left microsoftApr 02 22:27
psydruidI don't remember what exactly it was aboutApr 02 22:27
activelownone of the major GUI desktop environments are acceptable; it isn't easy to remove dbus/udev/... from gtk3 (compile-time); and qt5 is worse (removed entirely)Apr 02 22:27
DaemonFCMicro Center has been a better place to go than the rest.Apr 02 22:27
DaemonFCWe still have a few here.Apr 02 22:27
bnchshe said linux has a secret backdoor that only torvalds knowsApr 02 22:27
DaemonFCAt one point, they were selling boxed sets of PC-BSD>Apr 02 22:27
activelowand there isn't any web browser remaining anymore either, if the criteria for "free software" are strictApr 02 22:28
activelowit is even irelevant, if it's either BSD-licensed kernel and userspace, or GPLApr 02 22:28
activelownot to mention compilers (gcc, llvm), which, with strict criteria enforced, leaves free software not at least with a c-compiler anymore for recent hardware and kernelApr 02 22:29
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matey/me shows people how to compile code into python then run it from the same (already running) interpreterApr 02 22:37
mateyits not difficult but its funApr 02 22:37
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bnchshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBFdLwbzmB8Apr 02 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RBFdLwbzmB8Apr 02 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | That time Bill Gates had a house party... - InvidiousApr 02 22:38
bnchsyesApr 02 22:38
bnchsbill gates the womanizerApr 02 22:38
bnchsbut the video doesnt talk about thatApr 02 22:38
mateybut github has a rainbow sometimesApr 02 22:39
mateymicrosoft <3 lgbtqApr 02 22:39
activelowi don't know, why Bill Gates is potrayed as a microsoft guy nowadays; his era was/is the i8086 CP/M DOS systemsApr 02 22:39
mateyi don't know, why Bill Gates is potrayed as a microsoft guy nowadays <- only living founder, one of the worlds 10 richest people because of microsoft, has only named successors who ran it for him like a proxyApr 02 22:40
mateyno particular reason.Apr 02 22:40
bnchsi wish bill gates diedApr 02 22:40
bnchsfucking assholeApr 02 22:40
mateyfunnily enough, if i was on a boat with bill gates, microsoft and a gun and two bulletsApr 02 22:41
mateyi would shoot microsoft, twiceApr 02 22:41
activelowmicrosoft 2020 isn't micro-soft 1980; different company, different products, almost nothing in commonApr 02 22:41
bnchsmatey: nah too obviousApr 02 22:42
bnchsyou know just sabatoge the boatApr 02 22:42
bnchsfrom the insideApr 02 22:42
bnchsand watch them sinkApr 02 22:42
mateyalmost nothing in common <- right, these days they try to control everything done on x86, and in the 1980s, that was TOTALLY DIFFERENTApr 02 22:42
mateyi mean THEIR LOGO CHANGEDApr 02 22:42
mateywhat do people want?Apr 02 22:42
mateytheir MARKETING IS NEARLY THE OPPOSITE of what it wasApr 02 22:42
mateythey used to try to destroy the competitorsApr 02 22:43
mateynow they just try to make friends!Apr 02 22:43
mateythey used to have a fuckload of marketshareApr 02 22:44
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mateynow they have to BUY OUT things that have a fuckload of marketshare!Apr 02 22:44
mateythey USED TO dismiss the internet and especially the webApr 02 22:44
mateynow they simply work to destroy itApr 02 22:44
mateyso yeah, night and day.Apr 02 22:44
mateya bit like putlin, they just want to work with ukrainians to do whats best for ukraineApr 02 22:45
mateyreally microsoft is like a charity, but wait no, their charity is like an evil megacorpApr 02 22:45
mateywe complain about them in the media, they buy off the mediaApr 02 22:47
mateythey didnt do that in the 80sApr 02 22:47
mateyso thats differentApr 02 22:47
mateywe complain about the to the government, they buy off the governmentApr 02 22:47
mateyalso totally newApr 02 22:47
mateyso really its a very different companyApr 02 22:47
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mateyonly the fact that theyre pure fucking evil hasnt changedApr 02 22:48
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bnchsyou knowApr 02 22:49
bnchsi would have drugged bill's momApr 02 22:49
bnchswith birth control pillsApr 02 22:49
activelowmatey: they and their products have become worse, alot worse, since 1980Apr 02 22:50
matey<activelow> matey: they and their products have become worse, alot worse, since 1980 <- yesApr 02 22:50
mateyso what you said before is confusingApr 02 22:50
matey<bnchs> with birth control pills <- im pretty sure he was made in a lab anywayApr 02 22:52
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DaemonFCEver since that incident where I had to go to court and fight that traffic ticket last year, I've been reporting the police traps all around town whenever I see them.Apr 02 22:52
matey/me checks out a row of vials at wuhanApr 02 22:52
matey"covid 19"Apr 02 22:53
matey"bill gates dna"Apr 02 22:53
matey"nyan cat meme"Apr 02 22:53
DaemonFCHopefully, I save at least a few people from a ticket and cost the city some money.Apr 02 22:53
DaemonFCPeople ask me why I have my GPS app open when I'm just driving around places I know. I say it's to remind me about red light cameras and cops.Apr 02 22:54
bnchsokApr 02 22:55
bnchseven if he was made in a labApr 02 22:55
DaemonFCI'm certain I would have gotten at least SOME automated tickets by now if it wasn't for the warnings that I'm approaching the camera. Gives me time enough to slow down to pass the camera and then speed back up again.Apr 02 22:55
bnchsspit into the DNAApr 02 22:55
bnchsmaybe piss on itApr 02 22:55
bnchsthen put it backApr 02 22:55
matey/me would rather see the world become an enlightened army against bullshitApr 02 22:58
mateygranted, its a long shot! and im a pessimistApr 02 22:58
mateya VERY long shot. it would  make mars seem like it was next doorApr 02 22:58
DaemonFCI'm sure my DNA is fairly resilient. Most of my grandparents took terrible care of themselves, especially later in life.Apr 02 22:58
mateywhich it is, sort of.Apr 02 22:58
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DaemonFCThey make it to their late 80s. One of my grandmothers is still alive. She's 90.Apr 02 22:59
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DaemonFCMy great-grandparents made it into their 80s and 90s despite no access to modern medicine.Apr 02 22:59
bnchsi want to live to see bill gates publicly executedApr 02 22:59
bnchsit will make my lifeApr 02 22:59
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psydruidhe has a son - mini bill gatesApr 02 23:01
DaemonFCInstead of lowering the price of gas in Crook County, they hold raffles to see who gets to make it to work for a few weeks. (Gas card lottery.)Apr 02 23:03
activelowhere is the difference: early Z80 era systems, BASIC, asm hacking, hardware development, computer algebra, hayes 300, ... all of this is still relevantApr 02 23:03
activelowmodern ms windows, and most of the "free software", aren't anymore; that's another fundemental differenceApr 02 23:04
activelowi mean, the Altair BASIC paper tape inside a museum somehwere, that's more free and open than most of what got a free software license smeared ontoApr 02 23:05
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activelowoh, matey seems to have missed my last commentApr 02 23:05
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matey < activelow> i mean, the Altair BASIC paper tape inside a museum somehwere, that's more free and open <-Apr 02 23:14
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mateyof note is they put code together that they fished out of a skip when software was copyrightable and protected only by ndaApr 02 23:15
mateyand that they lobbied to make the industry hate hobbyist code, which was sheer hypocrisyApr 02 23:16
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mateyas hobbyists often do better, more honest work than microsoft does-- and they talked like it was "piracy"Apr 02 23:16
mateyfree software licenses arent the worst thing about free software by farApr 02 23:16
mateythe biggest problem free software has is people who pretend to give a shit.Apr 02 23:17
mateyif not for them, microsoft would be dying in agony right nowApr 02 23:17
mateygranted, microsoft is still the aggressor. we cant blame the victim like EVERYTHING is their faultApr 02 23:18
mateythough people that pretend to give a shit are still the biggest problem we have.Apr 02 23:18
mateyand probably the main thing standing between us and victoryApr 02 23:18
matey"us" being i dont know, as most people who do care have given up and are waiting for a signApr 02 23:19
*psydruid rounds up the collaborators and summarily executes themApr 02 23:19
mateyi mean github already has them corralledApr 02 23:20
psydruidMicrosoft has an army of MVPs that keep the company's malware in placeApr 02 23:20
mateyno questionApr 02 23:21
mateyfree software used to be about saying no to being controlledApr 02 23:23
mateybut giafam has made a series of offers that the movement apparently cant refuseApr 02 23:23
mateythe best way to quantify the movement itself is to watch projects closely enough to see who is bullshitting and who is fightingApr 02 23:24
mateyand most people? are just coding and talking the talk.Apr 02 23:24
mateymeanwhile the entire movement continues to drift towards corporate controlApr 02 23:25
mateysorry, corporate control is not freedomApr 02 23:25
mateyit wasnt before, and they only pretend it is nowApr 02 23:25
psydruidthe thing is that are just writing bs codeApr 02 23:25
psydruidthat they*Apr 02 23:25
mateyi wont even go that far, because im not a huge critic of codeApr 02 23:25
mateyi let people who know more about code quality do thatApr 02 23:25
mateyi critique projects based on goals and integrityApr 02 23:26
mateyand let people who know how to write really good code sort out whats bsApr 02 23:26
mateyanything based on github is making a huge compromiseApr 02 23:27
activelow^ try to compile an entire GNU/Linux distro with TinyCCApr 02 23:27
mateyanything based at ibm is debatably making an even larger oneApr 02 23:27
matey<activelow> ^ try to compile an entire GNU/Linux distro with TinyCC <- no one is going to maintain a free-as-in-freedom linux kernel, not even youApr 02 23:27
mateythis isnt a critique of your project, just the linux kernelApr 02 23:28
mateyyour project is cool enoughApr 02 23:28
activelowreminds me, haven't got any TeX system yet inside BaphometOS base systemApr 02 23:29
mateyone of my associates is a huge fan of texApr 02 23:29
mateyi cant say much about it since ive never used itApr 02 23:29
mateyi used to think libreoffice would do well enough for us non-wizardsApr 02 23:30
mateybut i see libreoffice as destined to be taken over entirely by collaboraApr 02 23:30
mateywhich means its fate is bound to gnomeApr 02 23:31
mateyhopefully im wrong. either way, the document foundation are dicksApr 02 23:31
activelowany X11/GTK3 related components cannot remain inside bapho base system anywayApr 02 23:31
psydruiddoes the document foundation standardize odf?Apr 02 23:32
mateydoes the document foundation standardize odf? <- seems likely, but since i dont know i can only guessApr 02 23:32
mateyi really dont care about odfApr 02 23:32
mateyi know i "should" but if i ask "why" i have no answerApr 02 23:32
mateyits one of those "shoulds" that work out to "just because"Apr 02 23:32
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psydruidI use it because I can still open the files in 10 yearsApr 02 23:33
mateyodf is a response to industry, in the way that militant atheism is a response to superficial bastardisation of religiious textsApr 02 23:33
activelowthe alternative to ms office wasn't libreoffice, it was TeXApr 02 23:33
psydruidbut generally I prefer TeX for text processingApr 02 23:33
matey<psydruid> I use it because I can still open the files in 10 years <- i would prefer to use something more readableApr 02 23:34
mateyi mean i have years of html crap for exampleApr 02 23:34
mateyhtml (mine at least) is a lot cleaner than the xml in an odf documentApr 02 23:35
activelowbtw, epson 9pin printing is maintained too with baphometos; re-integrated lprng even (although not necessary to have a spooler with matrix printers)Apr 02 23:35
mateybtw, epson 9pin printing is maintained too <- aww, my first (technically second) printerApr 02 23:35
activelowtoo, Epson supports some bitmap format, to plot diagrams and illustrations withApr 02 23:35
mateymy first printer was a wee thermal attached to an 8 bit machineApr 02 23:36
mateyit was thoroughly useless, but so cool that i didnt care it only produced (literally) rubbishApr 02 23:36
activelowwell, yes, printing subsystem with CUPS was removed too; however the power of fanfeed plotters is underestimated, and their importanceApr 02 23:36
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mateyhowever the power of fanfeed plotters is underestimated, and their importance <- indeedApr 02 23:36
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activelowit wasn't that much effort, some config and script for a clean formatted output of textApr 02 23:37
mateymy epson 9 pin was the coolest thing everApr 02 23:37
activelowworks with mutt mailer toApr 02 23:37
mateyit wasn't that much effort <- it shouldnt be, you could build the interface from discrete partsApr 02 23:37
mateynot that any sane person wouldApr 02 23:37
mateywell, a couple mightApr 02 23:38
activelowEpson still produces them; the former east-german manufacturing is defunctApr 02 23:38
mateyand rms would shit on them in favor of some fly-by-night with an fpga and a bunch of configuration shit on githubApr 02 23:38
mateyepson > hpApr 02 23:39
mateyfuck hpApr 02 23:39
matey/me gets surgery to have additional middle fingers to hold up at hpApr 02 23:39
mateyfuck you, linus (and nvidia too)Apr 02 23:40
activelowneed to place this on TODO: TeX output rendering of math formulas, diagrams, illustrations into epson bitmapApr 02 23:40
activelowwith gnuplot there was some issue remaining to keep it inside the c-only base system profileApr 02 23:40
mateyfiguresApr 02 23:40
mateysomehow im not surprised that gnuplot is part of the gnu plotApr 02 23:41
activelowmaybe, gemini authoring, can be integrated with TeX and 9pin matrix printing; for scientific papers etc.Apr 02 23:42
activelowillustrations, diagrams, maths formulas, that's important, with computersApr 02 23:43
activelowso far, the framebuffer-only console of BaphometOS has limitations, such as web browsers (lynx, w3m, links etc)Apr 02 23:44
activelowwith both, scientific authoring, and electronic publication (screen rendering), and printing onto matrix plottersApr 02 23:44
activelownonetheless, with baphometos i got www, irc, mail, printing, and anything which can be programmed with C, python (maybe fortran too if need be)Apr 02 23:45
matey 8CTO & co-founder, Invoca; co-founder, Gnuplot https://gist.github.com/ColinDKelleyApr 02 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | ColinDKelley’s gists · GitHubApr 02 23:47
matey126 contributions in the last year (although none of them are to his own repos, so props there)Apr 02 23:48
mateyhe stopped "contributing" to his own repos in dec 2016Apr 02 23:48
psydruidbecause there is no money in free software?Apr 02 23:53
mateyhopefully, because after 2016 he realised that he was consorting with the enemyApr 02 23:54
mateyi never look into what the "126 contributions in the past year" were of courseApr 02 23:54
mateymaybe he deleted 126 icons in different html files.Apr 02 23:55
mateythe resolution of that information is too fine to be useful to meApr 02 23:55
mateytheres a funny problem in getting the perimeter of a landmassApr 02 23:56
mateythe finer the resolution, the bigger the perimeter getsApr 02 23:56
mateybecause of all the little nooks and cranniesApr 02 23:57
psydruidI'm just wondering if the fundamental problem with free software as a business model, which it isn't, is that there isn't enough money to sustain bloated, unreliable and insecure software stacks for very many developers to stay employed working on thoseApr 02 23:58
psydruidand all the defections are caused by a need or willingness to sell outApr 02 23:59
mateyis that there isn't enough money to sustain bloated, unreliable and insecure software stacks for very many developers to stay employed working on those <- at this point im convinced that free software and capitalism cannot have a working relationshipApr 02 23:59
mateythese days all attempts to continue one seem to be based on politely ignoring realityApr 02 23:59
mateyin terms of ideology, free software is NOT opposed to capitalism. and im ok with thatApr 02 23:59

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