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| psydruid | so it's not that black and white | Apr 07 00:00 |
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| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: Iran? | Apr 07 00:00 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Well, maybe Ural nations | Apr 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Balkan and Baltic | Apr 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | all other nations are ahead of Iran | Apr 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | even spain and italy | Apr 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and greece | Apr 07 00:00 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: don't be fooled: although people present it as a general principle, they're mainly pissed off about the specific case of nazi-style ideology being censored | Apr 07 00:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: we covered it years ago | Apr 07 00:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | many times | Apr 07 00:02 |
| schestowitz | also see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2018/11/06/gab-is-pro-nazis/ | Apr 07 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Gab is Not a Site That Tolerates Nazis. It is a Nazi Site That Bans People Who Object to Nazism. It’s a Censorship Site With a Dangerous Agenda. | Apr 07 00:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | In Germany the "banker parties" (or coalition) have this trick of framing any opponents as AfD and thus "nazi" | Apr 07 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then those opinions don't count | Apr 07 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | or slippery slope to berlin getting blitzed to rubble again | Apr 07 00:05 |
| techrights-news | "Linux files"??? https://www.networkworld.com/article/3656413/2-ways-to-remove-duplicate-lines-from-linux-files.html | Apr 07 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | 2 ways to remove duplicate lines from Linux files | Network World | Apr 07 00:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | me scans *.linux | Apr 07 00:08 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163437 | Apr 07 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 00:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Gulag Analytics has lately been declared illegal in France and Austria." https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/675 | Apr 07 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | The Plausible(.io) Alternative to Google Analytics | Apr 07 00:11 | |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Kubuntu 22.04 Beta. Enjoy! For the links and more," https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_UaXrYJUUAg | Apr 07 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Kubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Apr 07 00:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: is that windows video ok? | Apr 07 00:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | is the title suitable? | Apr 07 00:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | clickbait? | Apr 07 00:12 |
| psydruid | my attention got lost again | Apr 07 00:15 |
| psydruid | third time's a charm lol | Apr 07 00:15 |
| techrights-news | CIQ and Gulag Clown to Provide Optimized Experience for Rocky Linux | Business Wire ⚓ https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220406005995/en/CIQ-and-Google-Cloud-to-Provide-Optimized-Experience-for-Rocky-Linux | Apr 07 00:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | CIQ and Google Cloud to Provide Optimized Experience for Rocky Linux | Business Wire | Apr 07 00:15 | |
| psydruid | I think he explains it OK, but when I hear Windows I lose interest | Apr 07 00:16 |
| psydruid | it's a video about all the things I hate in modern computing | Apr 07 00:17 |
| psydruid | that's probably why I'm having trouble staying focused | Apr 07 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown storage? | Apr 07 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | TPM? | Apr 07 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Pluton-crats? | Apr 07 00:18 |
| psydruid | he mentions a few of those things | Apr 07 00:19 |
| techrights-news | Videos/Audio: Kubuntu 22.04 Beta, Plausible, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163438 | Apr 07 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Audio: Kubuntu 22.04 Beta, Plausible, and More | Tux Machines | Apr 07 00:19 | |
| psydruid | but this seems to be a video for Windows users | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that's no good... | Apr 07 00:20 |
| psydruid | is he going to cover more Windows now? | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like another The Linux Gamer -> Bryant talks stuff... | Apr 07 00:20 |
| psydruid | Brodie Billson | Apr 07 00:21 |
| techrights-news | Red Hat/Fedora: SystremD, Clown RAN, Rocky Linux, and AlmaLinux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163439 | Apr 07 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora: SystremD, Clown RAN, Rocky Linux, and AlmaLinux | Tux Machines | Apr 07 00:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: seems like an odd topic choice | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | his audience is quite handcore | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and his message seems to be face-saving BS of Microsoft | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | PR almost | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I did not watch it | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | he used to get loads of views | Apr 07 00:21 |
| psydruid | he could have covered it more from the non-Windows side | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not to many recently or past year | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe not lack of "content" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but gulagtube hiding "creators" from their subscribers | Apr 07 00:22 |
| psydruid | now it's like "what now?" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's reading techrights | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me check | Apr 07 00:22 |
| psydruid | "how does this help me?" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just linked to that in TM | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he always gives overview at the starthis videos are scripted | Apr 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the summaries full of typos | Apr 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8hihk3UC3Ig | Apr 07 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped? - Invidious | Apr 07 00:24 | |
| schestowitz | so he slags off MSM | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz | for being NOT pro-Microsoft???? | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz | LOL!!!!!! | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz | So media does not, for a change, repeat Microsoft lies | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz | and he mocks them for it | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz | ok, I've had enough | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz | he comments on the same article I did a video on 2 days ago | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | so he's being pro-MIcrosoft contrarian | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | boo | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, techradar | Apr 07 00:25 |
| psydruid | what is his agenda? | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | in that article | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | which he shows | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I too shows | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's pro-Microsoft lies | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | from first paragraph | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the top is all Microsoft ads | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's Microsoft-sponsored rag | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, he loses points | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | for going out of his way to defend Micerosoft | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | very poor taste | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like there's nothing else for him to cover | Apr 07 00:26 |
| psydruid | no one is saying that GNU/Linux will take over any time now | Apr 07 00:26 |
| psydruid | but the evolution is clear | Apr 07 00:26 |
| psydruid | every year is the year of the Linux machine | Apr 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | my response: http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/windows-floundering/ | Apr 07 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 6 Months After Vista 11′s Official Release the Market Share of Windows Falls to 28% (All-Time Low) | Techrights | Apr 07 00:27 | |
| schestowitz | to the same article | Apr 07 00:27 |
| psydruid | and there is no stopping that | Apr 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | should I delete him from RSS? | Apr 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | lket's call it strike 1 | Apr 07 00:27 |
| psydruid | 3 strikes and he's out | Apr 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, 2 more then | Apr 07 00:28 |
| psydruid | I don't find gulagtube creators to be reliable in any case | Apr 07 00:28 |
| techrights-news | "“Thank You” Bosch, this angle grinder is brand new. It has never worked, because there seems to a production error/the small gear is loose / not attached to the drive shaft, so the electric motor can not drive the gearbox." https://dwaves.de/2022/04/06/bosch-angle-grinder-flex-pws-9-125-ce-products-clearly-suffering-from-lack-of-quality-made-in-hungary-and-maybe-even-china-3-603-c99-a01/ | Apr 07 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-» Bosch Angle Grinder Flex PWS 9-125 CE Products clearly suffering from lack of Quality Made in Hungary and maybe even China – 3 603 C99 A01 | dwaves.de | Apr 07 00:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | #gatespartner | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | in youtube | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill is angle | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | wanna become gates partner now? | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can hitch a plan | Apr 07 00:29 |
| psydruid | they'll just swing whatever way gives them more viewers and revenue | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | just don't be too old | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill likes "rich people" | Apr 07 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | bill is angle > bill is single | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | officially divorced a few months back | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the wife said she divorced due to epstein | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube pushes gates ads | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | with him talking | Apr 07 00:30 |
| psydruid | bill likes looking at things from all angles | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | in his small voicet | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | they push this in rianne's face | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | she skips this but not before laughing at this weirdo | Apr 07 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube is compromised | Apr 07 00:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we had no invidious, I'd not subescribe to anything at all | Apr 07 00:31 |
| techrights-news | Monado accepted in GSoC 2022! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163419#comment-33294 | Apr 07 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 00:34 | |
| psydruid | I use a locally installed frontend to gulagtube | Apr 07 00:34 |
| psydruid | so I never see any ads | Apr 07 00:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't know what wiull happen next | Apr 07 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we only know it'll get worse | Apr 07 00:35 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-21-memes-1.jpg | Apr 07 00:35 |
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| schestowitz-TR | for us | Apr 07 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and better for advertisers | Apr 07 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the interest of monet generation | Apr 07 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | which means any link to "tweets" and youtube videos today will become worse in the future | Apr 07 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I assume yewtu.be won't last long | Apr 07 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those links will break | Apr 07 00:36 |
| psydruid | creators should have contingency plans to host their videos elsewhere | Apr 07 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the moment gulag lawyers decide "too many" people use it | Apr 07 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is based on .NL | Apr 07 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the secon-biggest instance is in .FI | Apr 07 00:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not so well known | Apr 07 00:36 |
| psydruid | but they will probably lose that sweet revenue | Apr 07 00:36 |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation on Red Hat in AGL http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163439#comment-33293 | Apr 07 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora: SystremD, Clown RAN, Rocky Linux, and AlmaLinux | Tux Machines | Apr 07 00:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | wait and watch gulag taking on invidious | Apr 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | in court or just threats | Apr 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like youtube-dl | Apr 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cartel will do itr | Apr 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | invidious has download buittons | Apr 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they'll say it's used for 'piracy' | Apr 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mind hos bloody easy it is to rip gulagtube vids regardless | Apr 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you can playback the stuff, you can store it | Apr 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless they mess about with DRM some more | Apr 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | even then you could bypass it | Apr 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | DRM is a lost cause | Apr 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz | YouTube ripper | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | https://y2mate.is/en65/ | Apr 07 00:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-y2mate.is | Youtube Downloader - Convert & Download Youtube Videos - Y2Mate | Apr 07 00:39 | |
| schestowitz | this one still works | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | but you can use invidious | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | derek taylor said one linux channel got banned | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | before MANY years ago it made a video on using torrents in gnu/linux | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | like, if you want to get ISOs | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | and now gulag thinks videos about bittorrent are in violation | Apr 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz | and retroactively applies these rules to very old videos | Apr 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz | then punishes old channels | Apr 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz | the gulagapalyse will be fun | Apr 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz | lots of people will get very, very pissed | Apr 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz | about their 'free' hosting | Apr 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they already lost tons of traffic | Apr 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | hours ago rianne was binging on gulagtube | Apr 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they recommend to her movies and things | Apr 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | hollywood stuff | Apr 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's like she's watching TV | Apr 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | at leasdt librewolf blocks all the ads | Apr 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Creators" = serfs, slaves | Apr 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "gig economy" | Apr 07 00:42 |
| techrights-news | "Every single time you make a merger, somebody is losing his identity. And saying something different is just rubbish." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-01-02.gmi | Apr 07 00:44 |
| psydruid | free hosting doesn't exist | Apr 07 00:44 |
| techrights-news | "I guess the main point I'm trying to make is that a big company ain't good, and that a good, small-to-medium–sized company is constantly on a knife's edge between going bankrupt and growing to being a big bad company." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-01-02.gmi | Apr 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: right | Apr 07 00:44 |
| psydruid | I still don't get how charging for bandwidth works | Apr 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I called it "free lunch" | Apr 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ | Apr 07 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights | Apr 07 00:44 | |
| schestowitz | "no free lunch" | Apr 07 00:45 |
| psydruid | you pay for the infrastructure and maintenance | Apr 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz | today we published a talk about ipv43 | Apr 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz | and how there's nolw ipv4 tax | Apr 07 00:45 |
| psydruid | why pay for bandwidth? | Apr 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz | if you want hosting you pay or get subcharged for the ip address | Apr 07 00:45 |
| psydruid | I don't pay for bandwidth at home | Apr 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz | ipv4 addresses have gotten expensive | Apr 07 00:45 |
| psydruid | I pay for electricity | Apr 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz | the users pay for b/w | Apr 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz | through ISPs | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | the ISPs then try to charge premiums from DCs | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | double diipping | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | south korea wanted netflix (shit) to pay levied | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | for traffic | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | but koreans already pay for the traffic | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | and the country has the world's fast internet | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | *fastest | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | (last I checked) | Apr 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | if more people self-host | Apr 07 00:47 |
| schestowitz | they will pin-point the world examples | Apr 07 00:47 |
| schestowitz | like immibis does with actual nazis | Apr 07 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and then start a FUD campaign | Apr 07 00:47 |
| *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 07 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | about how everything must be in the DC ("the clown") | Apr 07 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and we should all be "consumers" with apps | Apr 07 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and no real local storage | Apr 07 00:47 |
| schestowitz | "pedophile" somnething... | Apr 07 00:48 |
| schestowitz | at bthe moment not many people host from home | Apr 07 00:48 |
| schestowitz | so we get ignored or spared | Apr 07 00:48 |
| techrights-news | "I watch youtube—watch, not browse. I watch a selection of channels that I know have quality content, using mpv + invidious. Browsing youtube, even with a privacy-protecting frontend, is a recipe for slowly decaying your brain." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-01-08.gmi | Apr 07 00:49 |
| psydruid | I'm wondering if this one of the underlying reasons for the lack of more powerful ARM hardware outside of phones, servers and Apple computers | Apr 07 00:49 |
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| schestowitz-TR | is that truly the case? | Apr 07 00:49 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the bottleneck is upload speeds | Apr 07 00:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ADSL keeps the upload throughput artificially low | Apr 07 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and high latency | Apr 07 00:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | for things like IRC | Apr 07 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | streaming videos is OK | Apr 07 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | latency not an issue | Apr 07 00:50 |
| psydruid | I mean the DC thing | Apr 07 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but throughput a major barrier | Apr 07 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | even ipfs struggles on residential connections | Apr 07 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the dht traffic | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have to run traffic shaping at home | Apr 07 00:51 |
| psydruid | I don't want anything in a DC unless I choose for it to be in one | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | DCs are getting more expensive | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | speaking of work, we work with bytemark | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they do price hikes | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | citing "electricity" | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if the main cost is energy | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | not support and maintenance | Apr 07 00:51 |
| psydruid | what if you had a 1gbps symmetrical connection? | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure about "clown" companies | Apr 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I heard they too insanely increase prices | Apr 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | just mention "ukraine" or "covid" somethingf | Apr 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | consumer goes, "OK, well... I guess I can spare a few more pounds a month" | Apr 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: then I could get lots done | Apr 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can still get fibre here | Apr 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe next year I'll try again | Apr 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | tbh, for video uploads I don't need it anymore | Apr 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it takes longer to encode than to upload | Apr 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I do both in parallel | Apr 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | using progressive rsync | Apr 07 00:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne taught me this trick | Apr 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | when she copies across the DB of tuxmachines | Apr 07 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then passes just the differences | Apr 07 00:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | for linear data this works well | Apr 07 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | like if you only add stuff to the tail of files | Apr 07 00:54 |
| psydruid | that's a nice feature | Apr 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | in webm videos at the end of encoding it adds bits to the start | Apr 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | to indicate total length/size | Apr 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll do some videos about patents soon... after Daily Links | Apr 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | now I can record on one machine while encoding on the other | Apr 07 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | both can record | Apr 07 00:56 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it only takes seconds to pass raw files from one PC to the other | Apr 07 00:56 |
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| techrights-news | xkcd: Linguistics Degree ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2602/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | Apr 07 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Linguistics Degree | Apr 07 00:57 | |
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| techrights-news | xkcd: Childhood Toys ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2603/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | Apr 07 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Childhood Toys | Apr 07 00:57 | |
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| techrights-news | UC Berkeley ML pioneer wins top computing gong - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/06/2021_acm_computing_prize/ ䷉ Source: theregister | Apr 07 01:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | UC Berkeley ML pioneer wins top computing gong • The Register | Apr 07 01:00 | |
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| techrights-news | COVID-19 vaccines exempted? https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1168800/new-clinical-trial-regulation-now-live | Apr 07 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | New Clinical Trial Regulation Now Live - Intellectual Property - European Union | Apr 07 01:02 | |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft 1990s: let's integrate the Web with the operating system (ActiveX, WMP etc.). Gulag and Gulag-funded Mozilla: let's make the browser like a whole operating system or VM. 30 million lines of code! | Apr 07 01:08 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163440 | Apr 07 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 01:08 | |
| bnchs___ | gulag | Apr 07 01:12 |
| bnchs___ | chromebooks is probably the first thin clients we got in this millenia? | Apr 07 01:13 |
| bnchs___ | BUT NOT THE LAST | Apr 07 01:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should go extinct | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or replaced | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they use bootloaders | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | to attack general-purpose computing | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | you buy a laptop | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but like with "phones" | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they lock you in | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | only one provider allowed | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and 'free' clown | Apr 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | you must upload ALL your files | Apr 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | or they will assume you're a terrorist/pedo | Apr 07 01:16 |
| psydruid | they can't control all the markets all of the time | Apr 07 01:16 |
| psydruid | but they can try | Apr 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you manipulate people | Apr 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might | Apr 07 01:16 |
| psydruid | and we can make them fail | Apr 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | then you can defame LT | Apr 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and RMS | Apr 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hope to discredit those who stand in the way | Apr 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | like LT saying no to 'secure' boot | Apr 07 01:16 |
| psydruid | LT was always going to end up in this position | Apr 07 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | no sense of humour allowed | Apr 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | no principles | Apr 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Red Hat Soft decided | Apr 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | for their biggest client | Apr 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (Pentagon) | Apr 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | US Empire should have control over what billions of device CAN and CANNOT boot | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they find a useful idiot | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | som e Irishman without a CS degree | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then troll LT | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and try to threaten him | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | until it 'worked' in 2018 | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | shortly after ICBM bought the company | Apr 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | then a year later, RMS turn... | Apr 07 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | first with libel over epstein | Apr 07 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1.5 years later a bunch of isms | Apr 07 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we have that same troll here in irc | Apr 07 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | pretending to be oppressed | Apr 07 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | while bagging 6-figure salaries | Apr 07 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's also stalking and breaking our sole IRC rule | Apr 07 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is don't threaten people | Apr 07 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | we made that rule in 2009 | Apr 07 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's in the wiki somewhere | Apr 07 01:23 |
| psydruid | a pathetic excuse for a human being | Apr 07 01:24 |
| techrights-news | Links 07/04/2022: Emacs 28.1 and Linux Mint 21 is Named | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/linux-mint-21-is-named/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/linux-mint-21-is-named/ | Apr 07 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 07/04/2022: Emacs 28.1 and Linux Mint 21 is Named | Techrights | Apr 07 01:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2009 is was an ACCESS troll | Apr 07 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | who were posting naked photos of people | Apr 07 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | to blackmail them | Apr 07 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was also a seat in board foundation iirc | Apr 07 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | major internet troll | Apr 07 01:25 |
| bnchs___ | there has been a spike in trolls | Apr 07 01:25 |
| bnchs___ | after you published that one article | Apr 07 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | no idea why companies hire such monsters and mobsters | Apr 07 01:25 |
| bnchs___ | it just seems too much of a coincidence | Apr 07 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again, maybe this is EXACTLY what they get hired FOR | Apr 07 01:25 |
| psydruid | because they respresent those companies' "values" | Apr 07 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | heh | Apr 07 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are like the vicious proxy | Apr 07 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the ousdier | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft employes people through agencies to infest reddit | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to attack Microsoft critics there | Apr 07 01:26 |
| bnchs___ | do they bribe the mods there? | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's cheaper than paying fines for crimes Microsoft commits | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs___: yes | Apr 07 01:26 |
| bnchs___ | you can literally get shadowbanned for saying some things in reddits | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | [23:29] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ | Apr 07 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights | Apr 07 01:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR | they also bribe reddit itself | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to promote MSIE and Bill Gates | Apr 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a corrupt site | Apr 07 01:26 |
| psydruid | I have -99 karma | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | reddit should be banned mentally | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a SPAM site | Apr 07 01:27 |
| bnchs___ | they shadowban you after a while | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "Russian propaagnda" | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for Microsoft | Apr 07 01:27 |
| bnchs___ | if they decide you speak too much | Apr 07 01:27 |
| bnchs___ | but you don't violate any terms | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 07 01:27 |
| psydruid | because I wasn't praising AMD enough | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | even the "Linux" mods | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | criticising crime is BAD | Apr 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | criticising crime is off-putting to their advertisers | Apr 07 01:28 |
| psydruid | but I learned something because of that | Apr 07 01:28 |
| bnchs___ | shadowbanning is the worst practice social control media uses | Apr 07 01:28 |
| bnchs___ | you should be aware that you're banned | Apr 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | reddit has had pro-Microsoft mobs slandering me for 15 years | Apr 07 01:28 |
| psydruid | AMD is even more of a cult than Intel | Apr 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | some are Microsoft employees | Apr 07 01:28 |
| psydruid | "muh games" | Apr 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | bnchs___: http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Apr 07 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Apr 07 01:29 | |
| schestowitz | 7 years ago | Apr 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | before people used the term shadowbanning | Apr 07 01:29 |
| bnchs___ | lol | Apr 07 01:29 |
| bnchs___ | you see mods mass-deleting comments | Apr 07 01:29 |
| bnchs___ | like if you look at a comment section of some thread | Apr 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | 'hacker' noise is the same | Apr 07 01:29 |
| bnchs___ | you see tons of [removed] | Apr 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | very similar type of censorship in 'hacker' noise (HN) | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | they sanitise the world | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | for your own 'protection' | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | "toxicity" | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | crime is not toxic | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | reaction to crime is "toxic" | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | we need to make the world look better | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | protect the criminal | Apr 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | prevent people knowing about the crimes | Apr 07 01:30 |
| bnchs___ | if i remember | Apr 07 01:31 |
| bnchs___ | shadowbanning was implemented in truth social | Apr 07 01:31 |
| bnchs___ | which was a fork of mastodon or something | Apr 07 01:31 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163441 | Apr 07 01:31 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163442 | Apr 07 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 01:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 01:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs___: all socikal contreol media is like that | Apr 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | just avoid ir | Apr 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | *it | Apr 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's govern not by free hosters | Apr 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but by people looking to exercise control over others | Apr 07 01:32 |
| psydruid | shadowbanning the shadowbanners sounds like fun | Apr 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | through their speech of lack thereof | Apr 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they use their 'free' hosting to drive agenca | Apr 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | *agenda | Apr 07 01:32 |
| bnchs___ | alternative frontends though? | Apr 07 01:32 |
| bnchs___ | there's either teddit (uses node.js but source hosted in codeberg) | Apr 07 01:33 |
| psydruid | alternative protocols and servers | Apr 07 01:33 |
| bnchs___ | or libreddit (uses rust but source hosted in shithub) | Apr 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs___: they are all centralised | Apr 07 01:33 |
| psydruid | Lemmy | Apr 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the wrong way to go about | Apr 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Lemmy also | Apr 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | centralised | Apr 07 01:34 |
| bnchs___ | psydruid, do not make me drag out the quotes | Apr 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and controlled by few tyrants | Apr 07 01:34 |
| psydruid | Notabug | Apr 07 01:34 |
| bnchs___ | about Lemmy | Apr 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress.com and blogspot also pose a risk | Apr 07 01:34 |
| psydruid | Lemmy Kilminster | Apr 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they do in fact censor | Apr 07 01:34 |
| bnchs___ | "I’ll have to think about this. Hard-coding it means I don’t have to do a database migration every time someone comes up with a new slur. And putting it in a DB table means someone could very easily remove it by deleting every row of that table, which isn’t good. I want to make it very difficult for racist trolls to use the most updated version of Lemmy." | Apr 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they 'dox' | Apr 07 01:34 |
| bnchs___ | they (once) hard-coded their slur filter | Apr 07 01:35 |
| bnchs___ | to make it hard for "trolls" to remove it | Apr 07 01:35 |
| bnchs___ | "We are never going to remove the slur filter completely (or add an option to that effect), because we dont want to make it easy for right-wingers to use Lemmy. We can talk about removing or changing specific words, but in general I dont think there is anything wrong with writing "b*tch" or something like that." | Apr 07 01:35 |
| psydruid | lol | Apr 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | trolls can work around vocabularies | Apr 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and still be offensive | Apr 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | no lists or "Hey Hi" can fix that | Apr 07 01:35 |
| bnchs___ | "because we dont want to make it easy for right-wingers to use Lemmy" | Apr 07 01:35 |
| bnchs___ | lets admit it, they're as controlled as twitter is anyway | Apr 07 01:36 |
| psydruid | сука блять собака | Apr 07 01:36 |
| bnchs___ | "outside of corporate control and meddling." | Apr 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | technically it's their site | Apr 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're not a punlic tiliuty | Apr 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | utility | Apr 07 01:36 |
| bnchs___ | yeah but it's a "federated link aggregator" | Apr 07 01:37 |
| bnchs___ | https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy | Apr 07 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - LemmyNet/lemmy: 🐀 Building a federated link aggregator in rust | Apr 07 01:37 | |
| bnchs___ | and yet they like to pull shit like hardcoding the filter | Apr 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | federated means more than one tyrant | Apr 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but if everyone got their own blog | Apr 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | than people would govern themselves | Apr 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and no tyrants would get in between | Apr 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cannot intercept and thwart RSS requests | Apr 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also use shithub | Apr 07 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, bbiab | Apr 07 01:38 |
| psydruid | time to fork it | Apr 07 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media = dead end | Apr 07 01:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | more people will realise it over time | Apr 07 01:38 |
| bnchs___ | fork it? | Apr 07 01:38 |
| bnchs___ | https://github.com/innereq/lenny | Apr 07 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - innereq/lenny: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) A more user-respectful fork of Lemmy. Created for https://derpy.email. | Apr 07 01:38 | |
| bnchs___ | this is a fork, which removed the slur filter entirely | Apr 07 01:38 |
| bnchs___ | https://moonbutt.science/innereq/lenny (non-shithub mirror) | Apr 07 01:39 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: moonbutt.science | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://moonbutt.science/innereq/lenny https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://moonbutt.science/innereq/lenny | Apr 07 01:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-moonbutt.science | innereq/lenny: Mirror of https://github.com/innereq/lenny. - lenny - Moonbutt Science Labs | Apr 07 01:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | moon butt | Apr 07 01:47 |
| bnchs___ | they're a bunch of bronies | Apr 07 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | It's a small world. | Apr 07 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And it is indeed a Princess Luna reference from the pony show. | Apr 07 01:55 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▇▇▄▅▆▆▆▂▄▅▅▅▅▅▅▆▇▇▆▅▅▅▇▅▆▅▅▆▇█▅▁ avg(k/sec) 36.11 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▁▃▂▃▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▃▂▁▁▂▃▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 7.13▕ swarm size (avg): 363.43 ⟲ | Apr 07 01:59 |
| bnchs___ | i never got them as much as furries | Apr 07 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs___: The former is a fanbase, the latter is an aesthetic. | Apr 07 02:05 |
| bnchs___ | well that makes sense | Apr 07 02:06 |
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| schestowitz-TR | wasm't furries some TV creatures thing? | Apr 07 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | the term seemsto have made a comeback | Apr 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | with another meaning altogether | Apr 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the troll from irc used this term to falsely isinuates that rust critics are just "transsphobic" | Apr 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | even critics who neither know about any of that "aspect" nor deal with it on an ad hominem basis | Apr 07 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | "wasm't furries some TV creatures thing?" <- Furbies? :) | Apr 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead focusing on technical and legal problems | Apr 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: yes | Apr 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | very low-quality show | Apr 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or movies | Apr 07 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | No, it's actually a toy. | Apr 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not my generation | Apr 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe 90s | Apr 07 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | But seems like it's a franchise too with films and stuff. | Apr 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furby | Apr 07 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Furby - Wikipedia | Apr 07 02:18 | |
| schestowitz | (1998–2001) | Apr 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | they look like gizo the gremlin | Apr 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | gizmo | Apr 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=B-uYP8o-gvY | Apr 07 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gizmo Heaven - Invidious | Apr 07 02:19 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I used to think it's the same thing :) | Apr 07 02:19 |
| schestowitz | looks modeled similarly | Apr 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the microwave scene always scared me | Apr 07 02:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they toss tons of silverware in it | Apr 07 02:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | and cause explosions | Apr 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the bad gremlins | Apr 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was a kid | Apr 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and microwaves were quite new in residential use | Apr 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you think you have some sort of "bomb" in the house | Apr 07 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, obviously in both cases the root is "fur". | Apr 07 02:21 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091018301/student-loan-pause-extended | Apr 07 02:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | The student loan pause has been extended through Aug. 31 : NPR | Apr 07 02:25 | |
| DaemonFC | The repayment "freeze" does not punish "responsible borrowers". | Apr 07 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, if they have the money to pay anything right now, it all goes to principle since the interest rate is at 0%. | Apr 07 02:25 |
| bnchs | decided to register my username | Apr 07 02:26 |
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| XRevan86 | It is weird to see when bronies are compared to furries, because the similarities are not there. Even in the latest feature film (G5) the CGI ponies have a spongy texture to them, even the CGI is not fur-y. | Apr 07 02:27 |
| *bnchs__ is now known as bnchs | Apr 07 02:27 | |
| XRevan86 | * similarities are not many | Apr 07 02:28 |
| bnchs | XRevan86, cgi ponies? | Apr 07 02:29 |
| bnchs | wtf | Apr 07 02:29 |
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| XRevan86 | bnchs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony:_A_New_Generation | Apr 07 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | My Little Pony: A New Generation - Wikipedia | Apr 07 02:30 | |
| bnchs | ok that is something that i have not been aware of | Apr 07 02:30 |
| bnchs | and horrifying | Apr 07 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | "and horrifying" <- It's actually a success. | Apr 07 02:30 |
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| bnchs | really? | Apr 07 02:32 |
| XRevan86 | Indeed, they really tried. | Apr 07 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | >> | My Little Pony: A New Generation - Wikipedia | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds a litle kinky | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | either because it refers to a man's thing | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | or punani | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | buit a man would not say "little" | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, they raise kids of some odd things | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I once heard a theory about this | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | softening kids | Apr 07 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that they will never wage resistance | Apr 07 02:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like unite and fight the ruling class | Apr 07 02:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | singing, clapping and drink clcohol instead | Apr 07 02:34 |
| kingoffrance | that was brave new world "soma" elixir of life -- alchemy lol | Apr 07 02:35 |
| kingoffrance | all anxities taken care of, ... -- network speech about "the world is a business" | Apr 07 02:35 |
| kingoffrance | *"network" movie | Apr 07 02:35 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Them kids don't watch enough anime? | Apr 07 02:35 |
| bnchs | anime? | Apr 07 02:35 |
| kingoffrance | it was said 1984 was different, brave new world is people will be distracted, noone will care | Apr 07 02:36 |
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| kingoffrance | 1984 was fear perhaps, brave new world was drugged into a stupor of happiness | Apr 07 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: schestowitz complains that cartoons don't have enough of a punch. | Apr 07 02:36 |
| bnchs | yeah and | Apr 07 02:36 |
| kingoffrance | so many people say the brave new world model won out over the 1984 "fear" LOL | Apr 07 02:37 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Surely ~Avatar: The Last Airbender~ Evangelion has enough to emotionally scar a whole classroom of children. | Apr 07 02:38 |
| bnchs | i never watched anime that much | Apr 07 02:38 |
| bnchs | really never watched it | Apr 07 02:38 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Obvious advice would be JoJo. | Apr 07 02:39 |
| bnchs | ok now jojo sounds worse | Apr 07 02:39 |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-060422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-060422.txt | Apr 07 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 | Apr 07 02:40 | |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Ghost in the Shell then since we're talking about cyberpunk. | Apr 07 02:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 | Apr 07 02:41 | |
| bnchs | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell_(1995_film) | Apr 07 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ghost in the Shell (1995 film) - Wikipedia | Apr 07 02:41 | |
| bnchs | look at that cover | Apr 07 02:41 |
| bnchs | let me guess | Apr 07 02:42 |
| bnchs | it's porn? | Apr 07 02:42 |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 boycottnovell irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-060422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-060422.txt | Apr 07 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 | Apr 07 02:42 | |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Does it say "porn" in the description? | Apr 07 02:43 |
| techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techbytes irc ■ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-060422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-060422.txt | Apr 07 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 | Apr 07 02:43 | |
| bnchs | no? | Apr 07 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Then it's not porn. | Apr 07 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | It does have occasional light nudity though. | Apr 07 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | So not for kids, so they're doomed to being softened so that they will never wage resistance, like unite and fight the ruling class :). | Apr 07 02:45 |
| kingoffrance | i did once see an article about "softening" kids to prevent bullying/fighting, and they claimed it "works" but im kinda...too lazy to dig it up...it was advocating it. and perhaps mixing ages (not sure how i feel about that -- obv age-based is counter to "merit"). | Apr 07 02:45 |
| bnchs | hmmmm | Apr 07 02:45 |
| bnchs | i do rmember something | Apr 07 02:45 |
| kingoffrance | its kind of like outsourcing, you train your replacement. they did/do try to train older to teach younger, makes you wonder what the teachers purpose is | Apr 07 02:45 |
| bnchs | this inspired matrix? | Apr 07 02:45 |
| kingoffrance | neuromancer ^^^ | Apr 07 02:45 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Sounds about right. | Apr 07 02:46 |
| kingoffrance | matrix is mother -- isis :) | Apr 07 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | I absolutely can recommend Avatar: The Last Airbender for all ages though. It's insane how well that cartoon is done. | Apr 07 02:47 |
| XRevan86 | It's not even a take, it's universally accepted (: | Apr 07 02:48 |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-06.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Apr 07 02:48 |
| bnchs | i remember something | Apr 07 02:50 |
| bnchs | something called friz the cat? | Apr 07 02:50 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: The what? | Apr 07 02:50 |
| bnchs | friz the cat? | Apr 07 02:51 |
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| XRevan86 | Black comedy, I see. | Apr 07 02:52 |
| bnchs | i remember seeing it on some movie night, and didn't remember the name until now | Apr 07 02:53 |
| kingoffrance | the theory of mixing ages then, is if someone picks on younger person, an older grade person hovers over them lol | Apr 07 02:54 |
| kingoffrance | so its basically assuming older people will defend younger | Apr 07 02:55 |
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| AdmFubar1 | fritz the cat | Apr 07 03:03 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast-iron_cookware | Apr 07 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cast-iron cookware - Wikipedia | Apr 07 03:04 | |
| schestowitz | "An American Dietetic Association study found that cast-iron cookware can leach significant amounts of dietary iron into food. The amounts of iron absorbed varied greatly depending on the food, its acidity, its water content, how long it was cooked, and how old the cookware is. The iron in spaghetti sauce increased 845 percent (from 0.61 mg/100g to 5.77 mg/100g), while other foods increased less dramatically; for example, the iron in cornbread | Apr 07 03:04 |
| schestowitz | increased 28 percent, from 0.67 to 0.86 mg/100g.[18] Anemics, and those with iron deficiencies, may benefit from this effect,[19] which was the basis for the development of the lucky iron fish, an iron ingot used during cooking to provide dietary iron to those with iron deficiency. People with hemochromatosis (iron overload, bronze disease) should avoid using cast-iron cookware because of the iron leaching effect into the food.[20]" | Apr 07 03:04 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 107479 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 40068 • Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 27 days ago | Apr 07 03:04 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 29 GB • TotalOut: 6.3 GB | Apr 07 03:05 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Apr 07 03:06 |
| AdmFubar1 | hhmmm I wonder if my cousin is using cast iron cookware..... will have tio ask | Apr 07 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmPTFnSBK7s4hJa6dWKXhRFqz7rSTw2b3nyJfUHGke9zsy | Apr 07 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Apr 07 03:07 |
| AdmFubar1 | my neighbors house caught fire tonight... family is all ok which is good news... not sure how badly damaged the house is.. | Apr 07 03:09 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CvvLbGS6AaM | Apr 07 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Chelsea vs Real Madrid 1−3 - Extеndеd Hіghlіghts & All Gоals 2022 HD - Invidious | Apr 07 03:09 | |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar1: how did the fire start? | Apr 07 03:09 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar1: I'm researching how much rust in a pot or kettle is too much | Apr 07 03:10 |
| schestowitz | a lot of pottery rusts a bit, eventually... | Apr 07 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | something leaks tons of ram in kde neon, but I suspect it's the browser | Apr 07 03:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | some web thing via firefox | Apr 07 03:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to figure out how to redeem lost RAM | Apr 07 03:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I never saw it so severe before | Apr 07 03:24 |
| AdmFubar1 | don't know... I was returning from dinner and saw emergency vehicles in the distance.. thought I'd be seeing them up a side streen nearby.. only to see wom head up my street. :O | Apr 07 03:38 |
| AdmFubar1 | this iron bis.... that doesn't seem right.. is it leaching out through the polymerized coating? | Apr 07 03:39 |
| schestowitz | "A poorly-coded SPA can easily eat up megabytes or even gigabytes of memory, continuing to gobble up more" | Apr 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz | this is so annoying | Apr 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz | the web is ruining the whole OS | Apr 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz | draining RAM | Apr 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz | old: A poorly-coded SPA can easily eat up megabytes or even gigabytes of memory, continuing to gobble up more | Apr 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz | https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/gnome-shell-has-a-memory-leak-and-it-might-not-be-fixed-for-ubuntu-18-04-lts | Apr 07 03:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Umm, GNOME Shell Has a Rather Big Memory Leak - OMG! Ubuntu! | Apr 07 03:41 | |
| AdmFubar1 | ray: did you install any gtk dependencies into your system? I had an issue with that.. and it loaded gnomes indexing service, it at ram and cpu time like crazy. | Apr 07 03:41 |
| AdmFubar1 | it ate | Apr 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, it took me a while to detect and stop it on this laptop | Apr 07 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but maybe too late | Apr 07 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming that's the core issue | Apr 07 03:43 |
| AdmFubar1 | did you stop the kde indexing? | Apr 07 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and was tackled...maybe I'll restart and see if that happens again | Apr 07 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, baloo | Apr 07 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | nepumok, akonadi, baloo | Apr 07 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they keep swapping names of things | Apr 07 03:44 |
| AdmFubar1 | check the indexing service via the control panel and make sure it is off | Apr 07 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is | Apr 07 03:44 |
| AdmFubar1 | ;) | Apr 07 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think the damage was done | Apr 07 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not rebooted this laptop yet | Apr 07 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | ever | Apr 07 03:44 |
| AdmFubar1 | yeah you will need a rebood | Apr 07 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I do system update with kernel now | Apr 07 03:44 |
| AdmFubar1 | reboot too | Apr 07 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so reboot would be wise regardless | Apr 07 03:45 |
| AdmFubar1 | esp after a kernel update | Apr 07 03:45 |
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| techrights-news | When Most Granted Patents (and Fake ’Growth’) Are Just Software Patents and EPO ‘Joins the Club’ | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/granted-patents-pr/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/granted-patents-pr/ | Apr 07 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Most Granted Patents (and Fake ‘Growth’) Are Just Software Patents and EPO ‘Joins the Club’ | Techrights | Apr 07 04:02 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, April 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 07 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Apr 07 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 07 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 07 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D553.jpg | Apr 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D195.jpg | Apr 07 04:11 |
| techrights-news | "So, that's it. I've launched a separate section of my capsule which I'll publish in Greek. It is pretty empty right now; I've only put there a few old poems I wrote because I didn't want to have the 'THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK' kind of pages ;-)." gemini://koyu.space/blu256/el.gmi | Apr 07 04:12 |
| techrights-news | Mike Blumenkrantz: Big Marge https://www.supergoodcode.com/big-marge/ | Apr 07 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Big Marge – Mike Blumenkrantz – Super. Good. Code. | Apr 07 04:14 | |
| techrights-news | Best alternatives of Arduino IDE ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/arduino/ ䷉ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 🐧 | Apr 07 04:16 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: linuxhint.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/arduino/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxhint.com/arduino/ | Apr 07 04:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Best alternatives of Arduino IDE | Apr 07 04:16 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163443 | Apr 07 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 04:21 | |
| techrights-news | Kubernetes Blog: Kubernetes Removals and Deprecations In 1.24 https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/04/07/upcoming-changes-in-kubernetes-1-24/ | Apr 07 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes Removals and Deprecations In 1.24 | Kubernetes | Apr 07 04:22 | |
| techrights-news | "So, the songs are perpetually stuck in rightsholder limbo. No one wants to renegotiate the contracts to make a few cents off streaming." https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/everything-or-nothing.html | Apr 07 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Everything or Nothing: The missing James Bond theme song | Apr 07 04:23 | |
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| AdmFubar1 | this doesn't bode well for ibm https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/07/ibm_securities_lawsuit/ | Apr 07 04:37 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/07/ibm_securities_lawsuit/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/07/ibm_securities_lawsuit/ | Apr 07 04:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | IBM 'misclassified' mainframe sales to enrich executives • The Register | Apr 07 04:37 | |
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| AdmFubar1 | was picturing something terminator like... it is more bladrunner like https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/06/shanghai_lockdown_robots/ | Apr 07 05:24 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/06/shanghai_lockdown_robots/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/06/shanghai_lockdown_robots/ | Apr 07 05:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China rolls out bots to enforce COVID lockdown • The Register | Apr 07 05:24 | |
| AdmFubar1 | its about time https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/04/06/file-federal-taxes-free-through-irs/ | Apr 07 05:54 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: snopes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/04/06/file-federal-taxes-free-through-irs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/04/06/file-federal-taxes-free-through-irs/ | Apr 07 05:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How You Can File Federal Taxes for Free Through the IRS | Snopes.com | Apr 07 05:54 | |
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| AdmFubar1 | https://hackaday.com/2022/04/05/led-filaments-make-a-retro-clock-without-any-retro-parts/ | Apr 07 06:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LED Filaments Make A Retro Clock Without Any Retro Parts | Hackaday | Apr 07 06:10 | |
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| techrights-news | "I have things relatively locked down here—more on homelab security coming soon!—but a DDoS isn't something most residential ISPs take too kindly." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/getting-new-ip-address-dhcp-spectrum-internet | Apr 07 08:14 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: jeffgeerling.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/getting-new-ip-address-dhcp-spectrum-internet https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/getting-new-ip-address-dhcp-spectrum-internet | Apr 07 08:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Getting a new IP address via DHCP from Spectrum Internet | Jeff Geerling | Apr 07 08:14 | |
| techrights-news | "This article is the first of a four-part series on building your own NAS on FreeBSD. This series will cover: [...]" https://klarasystems.com/articles/building-your-own-freebsd-based-nas-with-zfs/ | Apr 07 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | Building Your Own FreeBSD-based NAS with ZFS | Klara Inc. | Apr 07 08:14 | |
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| techrights-news | NuTyX 22.04.1 Released with Updated Desktops and Cards • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163444 | Apr 07 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NuTyX 22.04.1 Released with Updated Desktops and Cards | Tux Machines | Apr 07 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | "The /usr merge idea was first raised in "The Case for the /usr Merge" by Lennart Poettering in 2012. It came out of the systemd community, but was not meant to be systemd-specific, though" https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/890219/12423853bab9657d/ | Apr 07 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian still having trouble with merged /usr [LWN.net] | Apr 07 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | "We did some testing to develop our own best practices for designing PCB breakaway tabs and published an industry white paper about it." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4400 | Apr 07 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Breaking PCBs for Science - News - SparkFun Electronics | Apr 07 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | "Data types may contain secret information. Some of it can be extracted, some is hidden forever. We’re going to get to the bottom of this conspiracy" https://bartoszmilewski.com/2022/04/05/teaching-optics-through-conspiracy-theories/ | Apr 07 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bartoszmilewski.com | Teaching optics through conspiracy theories | Bartosz Milewski's Programming Cafe | Apr 07 08:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Though you should expect normalization to be efficient, it is unlikely to be computationally free. Thus you should not repeatedly normalize your strings, as I have done." https://lemire.me/blog/2022/04/05/string-representations-are-not-unique-learn-to-normalize/ | Apr 07 08:19 |
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| techrights-news | "The fact we're talking about shell scripts for something critical means that the battle for reliability was lost a long time ago." https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/04/05/pipe/ | Apr 07 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | That simple script is still someone's bad day | Apr 07 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Like computer circuit boards, many American cities are organised in a grid. People flow through them in vast numbers." https://theconversation.com/growing-up-in-a-city-can-harm-your-spatial-skills-new-research-180046 | Apr 07 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Growing up in a city can harm your spatial skills – new research | Apr 07 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | "I was less surprised. We at the Science Media Centre (SMC) had noticed during the pandemic that some universities that were extremely proactive in research communications were missing in action." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/opinion/pandemic-was-missed-opportunity-science-advocacy | Apr 07 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Pandemic a missed opportunity for science advocacy | Times Higher Education (THE) | Apr 07 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | normie ⚓ https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/normie: ䷉ Source: RobBraxmanTech | Apr 07 08:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | 10 Signs of a Tech Normie! | Apr 07 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: no penalties yet for those that deploy MS products in production situations https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 | Apr 07 08:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State of Robotics – February & March 2022 | Ubuntu | Apr 07 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "The BSD stuff was just the product of a different time. Today, a university would try to figure out a way to monetize it and it would end with nobody wanting to use a copy and then everyone forgetting about it." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060422.html#tApr%2006%2012:53:18 | Apr 07 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 | Apr 07 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | Clown computing + buzzwords = self-harm https://www.csoonline.com/article/3656788/attackers-create-malware-for-serverless-computing-platforms-like-aws-lambda.html | Apr 07 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Attackers create malware for serverless computing platforms like AWS Lambda | CSO Online | Apr 07 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | Biden priority: protect oligarchs https://truthout.org/articles/bidens-2023-budget-could-have-made-child-care-free-instead-it-boosts-police/ | Apr 07 08:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Biden's 2023 Budget Could Have Made Child Care Free. Instead, It Boosts Police. | Apr 07 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | "But those will still be TVs, and this is a monitor." https://www.theverge.com/23011794/alienware-aw3423dw-review-qd-oled-curved-gaming-pc-monitor | Apr 07 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Alienware AW3423DW QD-OLED review: the gaming display to beat - The Verge | Apr 07 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | "Now tracking has shifted to what is known as “first party” tracking." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/online-tracking-privacy.html | Apr 07 08:34 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/online-tracking-privacy.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/online-tracking-privacy.html | Apr 07 08:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How You’re Still Being Tracked on the Internet - The New York Times | Apr 07 08:34 | |
| techrights-news | "The European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled today in Luxembourg that general and indiscriminate data retention is inadmissible even for the purpose of combating serious crimes. MEP and civil rights activist Dr. Patrick Breyer (Pirate Party) comments: [...]" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/patrick-breyer-data-retention-is-dead-stop-trying-to-resurrect-it/ | Apr 07 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Patrick Breyer: „Data retention is dead. Stop trying to resurrect it!” – Patrick Breyer | Apr 07 08:34 | |
| techrights-news | Zuck's own fakecoins https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/6/23013896/meta-facebook-zuck-bucks-finance-financial-services-products | Apr 07 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Meta is reportedly making ‘Zuck Bucks’ - The Verge | Apr 07 08:35 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3260807-demand-for-cyber-threat-intel-growing-white-house-official-says/ | Apr 07 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Demand for cyber threat intel growing, White House official says | The Hill | Apr 07 08:41 | |
| techrights-news | "The only problem is that both clips were taken out of context" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fox-news-obama-white-house-visit-biden-1333556/ | Apr 07 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Fox News Doctors Clips of Joe Biden and Barack Obama - Rolling Stone | Apr 07 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | "And while there is no evidence that the misinformation campaign has had any discernible effect on the conflict" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/us/politics/ukraine-russia-hackers.html | Apr 07 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Hackers’ Fake Claims of Ukrainian Surrender Aren’t Fooling Anyone. So What’s Their Goal? - The New York Times | Apr 07 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Pinterest will prohibit ads and posts that feature climate misinformation" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/pinterest-climate-misinformation.html | Apr 07 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Pinterest Bans Climate Misinformation From Posts and Ads - The New York Times | Apr 07 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter = oligarchs' propaganda https://www.searchenginejournal.com/elon-musk-twitter-impact/444860/ | Apr 07 08:44 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: searchenginejournal.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.searchenginejournal.com/elon-musk-twitter-impact/444860/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.searchenginejournal.com/elon-musk-twitter-impact/444860/ | Apr 07 08:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.searchenginejournal.com | What Does Elon Musk's Twitter Look Like For Digital Marketers? | Apr 07 08:44 | |
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| techrights-news | WikiLeaks https://itwire.com/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html | Apr 07 08:48 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html | Apr 07 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - WikiLeaks marks 12 years since release of Collateral Murder video | Apr 07 08:48 | |
| techrights-news | GulagTube of 2022, unlike 2010, would have immediately suspended Wikileaks' account for uploading the Collateral Murder video. Gulag = imperialism, censorship, oppression, brainwash. | Apr 07 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "Each year, thousands of aspiring truck drivers sign up for training with some of the nation’s biggest freight haulers." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/business/economy/trucker-training.html | Apr 07 08:50 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/business/economy/trucker-training.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/business/economy/trucker-training.html | Apr 07 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Truck Drivers’ On-the-Job Training Can Be Costly if They Quit - The New York Times | Apr 07 08:50 | |
| techrights-news | "It's really damaging to the songwriting industry." https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-61006984 | Apr 07 08:50 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: bbc.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-61006984 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-61006984 | Apr 07 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ed Sheeran wins Shape of You copyright case and hits out at 'baseless' claims - BBC News | Apr 07 08:50 | |
| techrights-news | "He claimed Sheeran’s lawyers brought the legal proceedings" https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/ed-sheeran-wins-high-court-copyright-battle-with-sami-switch-over-shape-of-you-3642662 | Apr 07 08:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ed Sheeran wins High Court copyright battle with Sami Switch over Shape Of You | The Scotsman | Apr 07 08:52 | |
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| techrights-news | "The judge found Sheeran had not even heard the “Oh Why” song before writing his own hit" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ed-sheeran-copyright-row-shape-of-you-sami-switch-london-b992710.html | Apr 07 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standard.co.uk | Ed Sheeran wins copyright battle with Sami Switch over Shape Of You | Evening Standard | Apr 07 08:55 | |
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| techrights-news | “The use of the first four notes of the rising minor pentatonic scale for the melody is so short, simple, commonplace and obvious in the context of the rest of the song" https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ed-sheeran-wins-copyright-lawsuit-in-the-uk/ | Apr 07 08:55 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: musicbusinessworldwide.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ed-sheeran-wins-copyright-lawsuit-in-the-uk/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ed-sheeran-wins-copyright-lawsuit-in-the-uk/ | Apr 07 08:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.musicbusinessworldwide.com | Ed Sheeran wins copyright lawsuit in the UK - Music Business Worldwide | Apr 07 08:55 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▆▁▂▁▁▄▃▄▄▅▁▃▅▆▃█▇▄▅▇▃▄▁▄▅▁▂▁▂▁▅▁▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 46.15 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▂███▅▁▁▁▁█▃▂█▁▂█▁█▁█▂▁██▃▂▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 127.93▕ swarm size (avg): 321.43 ⟲ | Apr 07 08:59 |
| SomeH4x0r | In videogames at least, people talk about "supporting the developer" by "buying" a game, however for the games I like, I want the developers (when they are the same people as the publisher) better to be dead, so that they don't attack people with copyright shit | Apr 07 09:01 |
| SomeH4x0r | though gamedev is long dead for me | Apr 07 09:01 |
| activelow | pardon? | Apr 07 09:03 |
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| SomeH4x0r | I'm unable to enjoy most newer games (as they at least won't run on my hardware), physical copies are now rare, and updates bring shit often | Apr 07 09:07 |
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| techrights-news | Cory Doctorow https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/06/open-minds-podcast-cory-doctorow/ | Apr 07 09:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Open Minds Podcast: Cory Doctorow, Science Fiction Author, Journalist and Tech Activist - Creative Commons | Apr 07 09:09 | |
| techrights-news | "We are pleased to present the 2021 Creative Commons State of the Commons Annual Report." https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/05/2021-annual-report/ | Apr 07 09:09 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/05/2021-annual-report/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/05/2021-annual-report/ | Apr 07 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Creative Commons 2021 State of the Commons Annual Report - Creative Commons | Apr 07 09:09 | |
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| techrights-news | Social control media is a passing fad https://truthout.org/articles/two-of-the-brains-behind-trumps-failing-social-media-company-abruptly-resign/ | Apr 07 09:12 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/two-of-the-brains-behind-trumps-failing-social-media-company-abruptly-resign/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/two-of-the-brains-behind-trumps-failing-social-media-company-abruptly-resign/ | Apr 07 09:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Two of the "Brains" Behind Trump's Failing Social Media Company Abruptly Resign | Apr 07 09:12 | |
| techrights-news | ‘Putin destroyed evidence of Nazi crimes’: Meduza talks to historian Gregory Aimaro-Parmut about the destruction of Chernihiv’s SBU archive https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/putin-destroyed-evidence-of-nazi-crimes | Apr 07 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Apr 07 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | "One way to keep yourself more secure on the web is by using multi-factor authentication." Not quite; in many cases, the way it's implemented does more harm than good. But they use it to harvest data. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/securing-your-accounts-is-difficult-this-is-what-you-should-know-about-multi-factor-authentication/ | Apr 07 09:15 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/securing-your-accounts-is-difficult-this-is-what-you-should-know-about-multi-factor-authentication/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/securing-your-accounts-is-difficult-this-is-what-you-should-know-about-multi-factor-authentication/ | Apr 07 09:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Securing Your Accounts Is Difficult. This Is What You Should Know About Multi-Factor Authentication. | Apr 07 09:15 | |
| techrights-news | More good reasons to self-host all your stuff, stop outsourcing to companies that 1) don't care about you. 2) work for regimes. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/latest-threat-independent-online-creators-filter-mandate-bill | Apr 07 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The Latest Threat to Independent Online Creators Is the Filter Mandate Bill | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Apr 07 09:18 | |
| techrights-news | "We enjoy access to cheap stuff because of the mass market for things like mice, keyboards, and cell phones." "https://hackaday.com/2022/04/06/accessible-arduino-mouse-helps/ | Apr 07 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Accessible Arduino Mouse Helps | Hackaday | Apr 07 09:19 | |
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| techrights-news | "Today is a day of housecleaning. I splited tinylog file into two, current and archive for 2021. I restarted my VPS (uptime about half year)." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Apr 07 09:23 |
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| techrights-news | "Controllers haven't seen much change over the past decade or two." They just get more expensive, harder to repair etc. gemini://low-key.me/gemlog/psa-dualsense-pc.gmi | Apr 07 09:25 |
| techrights-news | "I’m getting the vibe that MMT is falling out of vogue in Sweden and that interest rates are gonna be jacked up. Maybe we’ll know for sure in three weeks after the next Riksbank meeting. But they’re giving up on trying to stem inflation." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/growth | Apr 07 09:26 |
| techrights-news | Fudging Designers gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fudging-designers | Apr 07 09:27 |
| techrights-news | On polarization https://www.mintpressnews.com/cancel-culture-and-polarization-in-the-age-of-covid-how-to-agree-to-disagree/280156/ | Apr 07 09:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Cancel Culture and Polarization in the Age of COVID: How To Agree To Disagree | Apr 07 09:30 | |
| techrights-news | SweatshopZone https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/say-it-pride-pushback-after-psaki-walks-back-biden-amazon-union-remarks | Apr 07 09:31 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/say-it-pride-pushback-after-psaki-walks-back-biden-amazon-union-remarks https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/say-it-pride-pushback-after-psaki-walks-back-biden-amazon-union-remarks | Apr 07 09:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Say It With Pride': Pushback After Psaki Walks Back Biden Amazon Union Remarks | Apr 07 09:31 | |
| techrights-news | Pinterest https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/pinterest-applauded-plan-combat-climate-misinformation | Apr 07 09:32 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/pinterest-applauded-plan-combat-climate-misinformation https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/pinterest-applauded-plan-combat-climate-misinformation | Apr 07 09:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Pinterest Applauded for Plan to Combat Climate Misinformation | Apr 07 09:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Far-right and authoritarian leaders in the U.S. and Russia are pushing the planet toward "the most dangerous point in human history," renowned scholar Noam Chomsky said in an interview published by The New Statesman Wednesday" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/most-dangerous-point-human-history-looming-warns-noam-chomsky-0 | Apr 07 09:34 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/most-dangerous-point-human-history-looming-warns-noam-chomsky-0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/most-dangerous-point-human-history-looming-warns-noam-chomsky-0 | Apr 07 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Most Dangerous Point in Human History' Looming, Warns Noam Chomsky | Apr 07 09:34 | |
| techrights-news | These patents continue to kill millions of people for profit https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/06/poverty-pre-condition-underlying-covid-19-mortality | Apr 07 09:36 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/06/poverty-pre-condition-underlying-covid-19-mortality https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/06/poverty-pre-condition-underlying-covid-19-mortality | Apr 07 09:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Poverty: The Pre-Condition Underlying Covid-19 Mortality | Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II | Apr 07 09:36 | |
| techrights-news | This is the priority of police in Spain? https://torrentfreak.com/how-laligas-anti-piracy-tools-led-to-two-more-pirate-iptv-arrests-220406/ | Apr 07 09:38 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/how-laligas-anti-piracy-tools-led-to-two-more-pirate-iptv-arrests-220406/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/how-laligas-anti-piracy-tools-led-to-two-more-pirate-iptv-arrests-220406/ | Apr 07 09:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How LaLiga's Anti-Piracy Tools Led To Two More Pirate IPTV Arrests * TorrentFreak | Apr 07 09:38 | |
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| techrights-news | "UK media giant Sky has asked [Microsoft] to remove the website... [Microsoft] responded by taking a CucoTV repository offline." https://torrentfreak.com/sky-tries-to-remove-pirate-iptv-app-cucotv-from-github-220406/ | Apr 07 09:39 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/sky-tries-to-remove-pirate-iptv-app-cucotv-from-github-220406/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/sky-tries-to-remove-pirate-iptv-app-cucotv-from-github-220406/ | Apr 07 09:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sky Tries to Remove 'Pirate' IPTV App "CucoTV" from GitHub * TorrentFreak | Apr 07 09:39 | |
| techrights-news | DMCA https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/vosburg-v-putney-leg-amputations-and-the-overly-censorial-dmca-notice/ | Apr 07 09:47 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/vosburg-v-putney-leg-amputations-and-the-overly-censorial-dmca-notice/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/vosburg-v-putney-leg-amputations-and-the-overly-censorial-dmca-notice/ | Apr 07 09:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vosburg V. Putney, Leg Amputations, And The Overly-Censorial DMCA Notice | Techdirt | Apr 07 09:47 | |
| techrights-news | DirecTV https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/directv-ignores-gop-pressure-kicks-oan-off-its-cable-lineup/ | Apr 07 09:48 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/directv-ignores-gop-pressure-kicks-oan-off-its-cable-lineup/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/directv-ignores-gop-pressure-kicks-oan-off-its-cable-lineup/ | Apr 07 09:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DirecTV Ignores GOP Pressure, Kicks OAN Off Its Cable Lineup | Techdirt | Apr 07 09:48 | |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft Hasn’t Changed Since the YouTube-DL Takedown | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/takedowns-through-microsoft/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/takedowns-through-microsoft/ | Apr 07 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Hasn’t Changed Since the YouTube-DL Takedown | Techrights | Apr 07 09:49 | |
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| techrights-news | Linux.com So Poorly Managed by Linux Foundation That Now They’re Double-Posting (Same Post Twice, Not Corrected) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/linux-com-double-post/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/linux-com-double-post/ | Apr 07 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux.com So Poorly Managed by Linux Foundation That Now They’re Double-Posting (Same Post Twice, Not Corrected) | Techrights | Apr 07 09:59 | |
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| techrights-news | An introduction to pvpanic https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/an-introduction-to-pvpanic | Apr 07 10:06 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: oracle.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/an-introduction-to-pvpanic https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/an-introduction-to-pvpanic | Apr 07 10:06 | |
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| techrights-news | SCOTUS appointments covered under "politics" sections. Just to remind you what US courts are really like, even the highest one. | Apr 07 10:10 |
| techrights-news | Tech does not always improve lives https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/court-says-texas-drone-law-violates-the-first-amendment/ | Apr 07 10:12 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/court-says-texas-drone-law-violates-the-first-amendment/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/court-says-texas-drone-law-violates-the-first-amendment/ | Apr 07 10:12 | |
| techrights-news | Oligarchs' social control: make lists, scare people https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/non-starter-critics-slam-amtrak-request-dhs-watchlist-screening-passengers | Apr 07 10:14 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/non-starter-critics-slam-amtrak-request-dhs-watchlist-screening-passengers https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/06/non-starter-critics-slam-amtrak-request-dhs-watchlist-screening-passengers | Apr 07 10:14 | |
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| techrights-news | Transportation Safety Administration (TSA): hiring pedophiles who uses the job to get access to children (touching them). I reported one case to TSA and they didn't even reply, let alone did something about it... | Apr 07 10:15 |
| techrights-news | When Rupert Murdoch controls the media https://www.desmog.com/2022/04/06/the-suns-pro-fracking-poll-was-paid-for-by-climate-denial-group/ | Apr 07 10:19 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: desmog.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.desmog.com/2022/04/06/the-suns-pro-fracking-poll-was-paid-for-by-climate-denial-group/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.desmog.com/2022/04/06/the-suns-pro-fracking-poll-was-paid-for-by-climate-denial-group/ | Apr 07 10:19 | |
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| techrights-news | "it’s wrong for politicians to promise to punish companies for their speech." Companies are not people; they haven't free speech rights https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/its-wrong-for-politicians-to-announce-plans-to-punish-companies-for-speech-no-matter-who-does-it/ | Apr 07 10:22 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/its-wrong-for-politicians-to-announce-plans-to-punish-companies-for-speech-no-matter-who-does-it/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/its-wrong-for-politicians-to-announce-plans-to-punish-companies-for-speech-no-matter-who-does-it/ | Apr 07 10:22 | |
| psydruid | free software game development is the only solution to the whole game industry being or becoming malicious | Apr 07 10:33 |
| psydruid | Microsoft keeps trying to sell this junk | Apr 07 10:33 |
| psydruid | https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/internet-of-things-blog/announcing-public-preview-for-nxp-i-mx-8m-on-windows-10-iot/ba-p/3271854 | Apr 07 10:34 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: microsoft.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/internet-of-things-blog/announcing-public-preview-for-nxp-i-mx-8m-on-windows-10-iot/ba-p/3271854 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/internet-of-things-blog/announcing-public-preview-for-nxp-i-mx-8m-on-windows-10-iot/ba-p/3271854 | Apr 07 10:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Apr 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "iot" | Apr 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | yotyotyotyotyot | Apr 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft ID IoT | Apr 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2025: Microsoft is a IoT company, it bough a bunch of firms with "IoT" in their name | Apr 07 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2027: Azure is "IoT" market leader, they bought some OS inside devices, rebranded it Azure | Apr 07 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2030: Elop joins Samsung as CEO | Apr 07 10:37 |
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| techrights-news | Elive 3.8.27 beta released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163445 | Apr 07 10:38 |
| techrights-news | 7 Best Free and Open Source Firewall Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163446 | Apr 07 10:38 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Apr 07 10:38 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/the-original-apt-advanced-persistent-teenagers/ | Apr 07 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | The Original APT: Advanced Persistent Teenagers – Krebs on Security | Apr 07 10:40 | |
| techrights-news | Guess who pays https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/jury-awards-14-million-to-anti-police-brutality-protesters-who-were-brutalized-by-colorado-police-officers | Apr 07 10:40 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/jury-awards-14-million-to-anti-police-brutality-protesters-who-were-brutalized-by-colorado-police-officers https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/jury-awards-14-million-to-anti-police-brutality-protesters-who-were-brutalized-by-colorado-police-officers | Apr 07 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jury Awards $14 Million To Anti-Police Brutality Protesters Who Were Brutalized By Colorado Police Officers | Techdirt | Apr 07 10:40 | |
| psydruid | the only thing that can be done about such hardware is to rip the ID IoT out of the thing and make it ID IoT-proof | Apr 07 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Apr 07 10:44 |
| techrights-news | Vivaldi 5.2 Adds a Reading List Panel & New Privacy Statistics Bar http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163414#comment-33296 | Apr 07 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 10:46 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Mint's upcoming Upgrade tool makes upgrades a lot easier http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423#comment-33297 | Apr 07 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines | Apr 07 10:47 | |
| techrights-news | Released: SmartOS 20220407 http://smartos.org/ | Apr 07 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SmartOS | Joyent | Apr 07 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | The EPO’s administration continues to enjoy the media’s apathy or silence; not a word is being said about EPO scandals, let alone strikes and industrial actions; today’s 20-minute video is one of many to come http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/granted-patents-pr/ | Apr 07 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Most Granted Patents (and Fake ‘Growth’) Are Just Software Patents and EPO ‘Joins the Club’ | Techrights | Apr 07 10:52 | |
| techrights-news | The Linux Foundation has turned Linux.com, once a thriving hub for news about GNU/Linux, into a graveyard; this is what Linux.com looks like this morning http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/linux-com-double-post/ | Apr 07 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux.com So Poorly Managed by Linux Foundation That Now They’re Double-Posting (Same Post Twice, Not Corrected) | Techrights | Apr 07 10:53 | |
| techrights-news | Outsourcing to Microsoft is poor decision-making, as yesterday’s news serves to remind us again (there’s no due process!) http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/takedowns-through-microsoft/ | Apr 07 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Hasn’t Changed Since the YouTube-DL Takedown | Techrights | Apr 07 10:53 | |
| techrights-news | 𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/irc-log-060422/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/irc-log-060422/ | Apr 07 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 | Techrights | Apr 07 10:53 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▆▇▁▂▇▄▃▅▅▄▅▇▅▃▃▃▃▄▂▅▄▅▆▆▇▇▇▇▇▄▅▁▁ avg(k/sec) 41.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▁▂▁▆▁▂▂█▂▁▂▂█▁▂▃▁▂█▁▄▅▁▂▂▁▂▁█▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 78.45▕ swarm size (avg): 671.73 ⟲ | Apr 07 10:59 |
| SomeH4x0r | why could [email protected] appear here https://introversion.co.uk/introversion/legal/website.html | Apr 07 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-introversion.co.uk | Untitled Document.md | Apr 07 10:59 | |
| SomeH4x0r | the website is not MITMed, and the JS required does not work | Apr 07 10:59 |
| *schestowitz-TR looks | Apr 07 11:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, ok | Apr 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, same thing happens in some mail clients | Apr 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in thunderbird | Apr 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe even russian quiterss | Apr 07 11:00 |
| SomeH4x0r | *does not exist | Apr 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they scan page tetxc | Apr 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if they detect something of email format they then do this | Apr 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | some parsers just do this to FOLDING@HOME | Apr 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and similar | Apr 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | my guess is that they passed it through some filter that redacts email | Apr 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might not be aware | Apr 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | report it to them | Apr 07 11:01 |
| SomeH4x0r | they don't respond for months | Apr 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | look at page source | Apr 07 11:02 |
| SomeH4x0r | I'm waiting until they respond to my other stuff | Apr 07 11:02 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <a href="/cdn-cgi/l/email-protection#b8cbcdc8c8d7caccf8d1d6cccad7ceddcacbd1d7d696dbd796cdd3"><span class="__cf_email__" data-cfemail="384b4d4848574a4c7851564c4a574e5d4a4b515756165b57164d53">[email protected]</span></a> | Apr 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | CF | Apr 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | does that mean clownflare does this? | Apr 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | check ip address | Apr 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | of site | Apr 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | <techrights-news> This is the priority of police in Spain? https://torrentfreak.com/how-laligas-anti-piracy-tools-led-to-two-more-pirate-iptv-arrests-220406/ | Apr 07 11:03 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/how-laligas-anti-piracy-tools-led-to-two-more-pirate-iptv-arrests-220406/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/how-laligas-anti-piracy-tools-led-to-two-more-pirate-iptv-arrests-220406/ | Apr 07 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How LaLiga's Anti-Piracy Tools Led To Two More Pirate IPTV Arrests * TorrentFreak | Apr 07 11:03 | |
| SomeH4x0r | the JS itself is missing | Apr 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's like the feds. They ran out of crime and started working movie piracy cases. | Apr 07 11:03 |
| SomeH4x0r | so I assume it is not CF | Apr 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | They're really good at solving crime and so they ran out of stuff to do. | Apr 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they should do wall street | Apr 07 11:04 |
| SomeH4x0r | unless some other script is blocking access to the JS | Apr 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the REAL piracy | Apr 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | "<span class="__cf_email__" data-cfemail" | Apr 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why GNOME doesn't default to centering new windows. | Apr 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, let me just put that as far out of reach as I can for you.....there we go!" | Apr 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | sooner or later people will realise that the police does not serve | Apr 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | or serve and "protect" | Apr 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | You need a Tweak Tool to set it to center windows. | Apr 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it serves warrants | Apr 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and cherry-picks the people whom thje plutocrats dislike | Apr 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Wondering about buying a police car..... Come to think of it. | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: GNOME is not for you | Apr 07 11:06 |
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| schestowitz-TR | you should learn KDE | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, learn | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it has tons of features | Apr 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | There's a nice big red detective Crown Victoria over there I'm REAAAALY tempted to buy. | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | even I still discover some | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | after 20+ years | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | kde neon has a very new build | Apr 07 11:06 |
| SomeH4x0r | I don't see the Cloudflare checker website on Crimeflare anymore | Apr 07 11:06 |
| SomeH4x0r | "Query Database" iirc, except it leads elsewhere now | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | for my applications I set position, focus etc. per window and application | Apr 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | They want too much for it, but car prices are going crazy and with that in mind, it's probably not a terrible deal relative to others. | Apr 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I rarely need to move any windows around | Apr 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'll drive it down to my mechanic and have them look it over, use it to haggle of they find anything that needs fixed. The last thing I want is a pile of car problems right away and no budget for it. | Apr 07 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Mandy didn't like the fact that they all have dials and gauges on them. | Apr 07 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | And not "screens". | Apr 07 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Yeah, nothing to break and burn out!". | Apr 07 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | "OH NO! I can't possibly drive THIS! I have to turn a dial to use the air conditioner. A DIAL! What am I? A chav?" | Apr 07 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | "Can you believe they want me to use a dial? Nobody thought of TOUCH SCREENS that burn out and cost $3,000 in 2011!?" | Apr 07 11:10 |
| SomeH4x0r | introversion.co.uk - 52.55.16.22 - Amazon | Apr 07 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting bad out there and between Brandon and all of the shitty new "car features" and self-driving nonsense.... | Apr 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | It isn't gonna get better. | Apr 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | As usual, with self-drive, mjg59_ is contributing to a great evil. | Apr 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Who the fuck wants a car that "self-drives"? | Apr 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't. Hands on the wheel! | Apr 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Oops, I thought that person I ran over was a bag!" -self drive | Apr 07 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it is | Apr 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or soon | Apr 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | when the ambulance arrives | Apr 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Wrap it up" | Apr 07 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Who is approving this? People are being killed by software bugs in cars now. | Apr 07 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Very soon, if not already, assassinated by the car's software... | Apr 07 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunate brake failure. | Apr 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://schestowitz.com/Research/Cars/Car_Navigation/HTML/ | Apr 07 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | CAR NAVIGATION THROUGH COMPUTER VISION METHODS WITH RUDIMENTARY IMPLEMENTATION UNDER ANDROID | Apr 07 11:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Research/Cars/Car_Navigation/ | Apr 07 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Drive you into a river and lock the doors on the way so you can't bail out. | Apr 07 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Car Navigation | Apr 07 11:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not self-drive | Apr 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's an alerting system | Apr 07 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Do you think it's fundamentally impossible for autonomous vehicles to be as safe or safer than human drivers under well-defined conditions? | Apr 07 11:17 |
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| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> DaemonFC: Do you think it's fundamentally impossible for autonomous vehicles to be as safe or safer than human drivers under well-defined conditions? | Apr 07 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't trust it. | Apr 07 11:18 |
| mjg59_ | Well sure, but I don't trust humans either | Apr 07 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it will ever be as safe as a good driver. | Apr 07 11:18 |
| mjg59_ | They keep trying to drive into me while I'm cycling | Apr 07 11:18 |
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| psydruid | Maybe some day they'll succeed | Apr 07 11:19 |
| mjg59_ | I think it's up to the companies doing this work to prove that the technology is safer than humans before it should be deployed anywhere | Apr 07 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Bicycles shouldn't be on the road. | Apr 07 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Also, what he said. | Apr 07 11:19 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software and Security • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163447 | Apr 07 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines | Apr 07 11:20 | |
| DaemonFC | You pay the highest taxes in the country right? Maybe go down to city hall and ask where it all goes. | Apr 07 11:20 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163448 | Apr 07 11:20 |
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| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and PCBs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163449 | Apr 07 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and PCBs | Tux Machines | Apr 07 11:21 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163450 | Apr 07 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | Why there are no bike paths and why the city passes anti-vagrancy laws from the 1800s and calls itself progressive. | Apr 07 11:21 |
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| mjg59_ | I think California has tighter regulations on autonomous vehicles than anywhere else, so I assume some of it goes there | Apr 07 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | The only place autonomous vehicles should go is to long haul trucking where it's mostly hours and hours and hours on rural long stretch highways and there's fewer people than necessary to do it yet they find time to circle DC with their horns blaring. | Apr 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | TIL https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/computer-science | Apr 07 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk | Computer Science Rankings 2022 | Apr 07 11:23 | |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: You'll be stoked to know what I work on! | Apr 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | oxford #6 here (only)m https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2021/computer-science-information-systems | Apr 07 11:24 |
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| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: (We do autonomous trucks) | Apr 07 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying this should not be in my car. | Apr 07 11:24 |
| mjg59_ | Your car is your business | Apr 07 11:24 |
| mjg59_ | I'm not going to try to force anything on you | Apr 07 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | There should also be a way to disable it and make sure it can never turn back on again. | Apr 07 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I don't put any stupid idea past Congress. | Apr 07 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Consider that MADD won another bullshit victory to get sensors to watch your facial movements or the car won't even work at all starting on MY 2026. | Apr 07 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Because the states don't just pass common sense drunk driving laws like "On your third, the cop just pulls you out and shoots you, and then you don't do it again for sure.". | Apr 07 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's what's "mad". | Apr 07 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | The entire reason we have crime is because it's widely tolerated. | Apr 07 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | When you have people on their seventh DUI before prison becomes a serious threat, you'll have lots of people out there doing it over and over again because they want to drink and figure the worst that happens is they get a lawyer. | Apr 07 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the roads are shared | Apr 07 11:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | other people's "self-driving" cars are your problem | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | another person drunk-driving also | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | those people hit other cars and pedestrians | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "self-driving" cars should bne a hobbyist thing | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like for competitions in engineering | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but BANNED from roads | Apr 07 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Yes, but the way to cut down on DUI fatalities is pass a law that rapidly escalates the consequences. | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | lobbyists typically buy any law they want though | Apr 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I worked in that field | Apr 07 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not by punishing everyone because 2-3% are a menace to the public. | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | face rec is BS | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | "self-driving" cars are BS | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should NOT be allowed | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but corrupt politicians also allowed polygraph | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and other crock | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | sold to them y cranks | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so many the accident-but-nobody-accountable industry will get its way | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | like they do with face rec | Apr 07 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | the british police repeatedly reported what a failure that was | Apr 07 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've had to take a breathalyzer test before. A cop pulled me over coming out of a bar. He saw me get in my car and waited for me to pull onto a public street. | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | catching not a single person they needed | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | just flagging crap | Apr 07 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I had not been drinking, so no problem. | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it helps sell | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | sell crap | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it doesn't help society | Apr 07 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | If you refuse, you automatically lose your driver's license for a year. | Apr 07 11:30 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: We know that humans have a reasonably high failure rate when driving. Do you think it's actually impossible for software to do better? | Apr 07 11:30 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: (Serious question, not trying to bait you into anything there) | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | breathalyzer is OK for high doses | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but | Apr 07 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can also detect smell | Apr 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | at high doses | Apr 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but officer writing down in report | Apr 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I smelled alcohol" | Apr 07 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | And just because you refuse doesn't mean they can't charge you with a DUI, it just means that they have to rely on some other evidence, which at that point becomes subjective (cop testilying) instead of a breathalyzer reading. | Apr 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | not as proper a protocol as "devices reading was X" | Apr 07 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | So you're actually in much more danger if you're not drunk and refuse the test. | Apr 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't do binary test | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they get a reading | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you are sober, then the reading won't be off the charts | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and as fallback you can have witnesses who saw you drink nothing | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it goes to court | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but if you are black, they might not believe you | Apr 07 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | There's a cutoff so that you can't say "I just gargled some Listerine about an hour ago!". | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | because DaemonFC might be in the jury | Apr 07 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | along with other racist jurors | Apr 07 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | What about my statement that I would have let the black guy that shot the car thieves go? | Apr 07 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | THe jury convicted him on murder. | Apr 07 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I like videos where they test the driver by asking him or her to walk a straight line | Apr 07 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | He should have been let go with an apology that we have a racist piece of shit prosecutor with anti-gun paranoia who doesn't beleve in right to defend yourself and property. | Apr 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they act all cool while walking like idiots | Apr 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then fall | Apr 07 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Fucking leftists. They're all the same. | Apr 07 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | You've seen one, you've seen them all. | Apr 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, it's off topic now | Apr 07 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Spineless, racist, pussies. | Apr 07 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless we talk aboutbreathalyzers | Apr 07 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | So nothing good could have come of that. | Apr 07 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | And I forgot, they tend to be pretentious too. | Apr 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can use your sense of smell | Apr 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's not a product | Apr 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they turned smelling intoa product | Apr 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now sell lots of units to cops | Apr 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon they charge amazingly high rate per unit | Apr 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | for some made in china cheap toy | Apr 07 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | costs 10 bucks to make, sold to PDs for $1000 apiece | Apr 07 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | graft | Apr 07 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | "I HAVE AN IPHONE HERADERP I'M NOT PAYING MY LANDLORD WE'RE IN COURT! PRITZKER WILL SAVE US!" | Apr 07 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe ask Musk to buy some breathalyzer shares | Apr 07 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of cheap devices that every tacky run down schmuck has, but acts like they're special over. | Apr 07 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm on INSTAGRAM taking pictures of me DOING STUFF! Oh there's me at a restaurant nobody cares about! Oh here I am at some place nobody cares! Oh, ads! Noice!" | Apr 07 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-water-tower-place-brookfield-transaction-20220406-ct7ku3cfbvauhe3d363olb6iza-story.html | Apr 07 11:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Water Tower Place owner walking away from troubled Mag Mile mall - Chicago Tribune | Apr 07 11:39 | |
| DaemonFC | The rich white people malls in Chicago are going tits up. | Apr 07 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | “Water Tower Place is a high-quality real estate asset that is well-positioned in the Chicago market,” said MetLife Investment Management spokesperson Dave Franecki in a statement. | Apr 07 11:39 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, I'm sure that whoever buys it will have more luck with it than the tenants and current owner are now. | Apr 07 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | All their tenants are filing bankruptcy and moving out, just like the other malls. | Apr 07 11:40 |
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| DaemonFC | It's a disaster because the United States had abotu 18 times too much retail space per person and we're in this sort of massive correction now. | Apr 07 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | It was a gigantic bubble, and I knew we were in for it about 20 years ago when I read that figure. That there was 18 times as much retail floor space per person in the US as in most countries. | Apr 07 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | There's nearly 20 square feet of shopping space per person in the US. | Apr 07 11:42 |
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| DaemonFC | That's not set up to survive people being broke _and_ shifting what they do buy online. | Apr 07 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is a good investment because it's about the last place people will shop. | Apr 07 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | And we're getting down to brass tacks now where people still need clothes and food and stuff and most can't afford the supermarket or Kohls. | Apr 07 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | For some reason the thrift shops never have anything in my size, no matter what size I wear at the moment. | Apr 07 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | But everyone around me can walk in there and find ten things and pay $5 that year for clothed. | Apr 07 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | *clothes | Apr 07 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Anyway, the fact that these systems are on cars is raising the price even if you never use them. | Apr 07 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | It gets built into the car and it's another thing to malfunction. | Apr 07 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | Raises the price, reduces the lifespan. | Apr 07 11:46 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: I'm not in control of what car manufacturers choose to ship | Apr 07 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | It creates all sorts of electrical problems and the car just starts acting possessed a year or two after the last payment. | Apr 07 11:47 |
| mjg59_ | That seems like a conversation to have with them | Apr 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | That's the real goal. | Apr 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> DaemonFC: I'm not in control of what car manufacturers choose to ship | Apr 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Every bad idea that nobody would accept gets passed into law. | Apr 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Like Obamacare. | Apr 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | If you put Obamacare up for a vote, and had everyone go in there and thumbs up or down, it would get cut to ribbons even at its highest point. | Apr 07 11:48 |
| mjg59_ | I've only lobbied for one bill in DC, and that was to make enforced arbitration illegal | Apr 07 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | That's what the government does. It passes corrupt and bad laws that foist things on people who now no longer have the freedom to go along with it or not. | Apr 07 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | And 99 out of 100 laws do bad things and take freedom away and legislate what should be personal choice. | Apr 07 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | And that might even get passed! https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/house-passes-bill-end-mandatory-arbitration-legal-disputes-2022-03-17/ | Apr 07 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House passes bill to end mandatory arbitration of legal disputes | Reuters | Apr 07 11:49 | |
| DaemonFC | The government needs to be stopped, but it always finds a way to be malicious. If you amended the constitution 100 more times to cut out all of the major abuses of power we know about today, it wouldn't be enough. | Apr 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | For starters, the courts already ignore the alleged "protections" that are there. | Apr 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | They'd just ignore the dozens of new amendments as well. | Apr 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> And that might even get passed! https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/house-passes-bill-end-mandatory-arbitration-legal-disputes-2022-03-17/ | Apr 07 11:51 |
| mjg59_ | This is literally a bill to ensure people can be protected by the judicial system instead of being pushed into a corporate mimic of the same | Apr 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Sure, after they water it down so it no longer does what the bill says it does, and carve out exceptions for all the nasty things the lobbyists care about. | Apr 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Obamacare" was a terrific example of the government "reforming" something. | Apr 07 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Since the law passed, healthcare has gotten more expensive by a factor of 10, and they find ways to hide it and claim more people are insured (with expensive policies they can't use). | Apr 07 11:52 |
| mjg59_ | Unclear whether you're arguing that the thing I went to DC to advocate for is bad, or whether it's good but bad things might happen that are outside my control | Apr 07 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | It was a bailout bill for insurance industries, and now that everyone has insurance, everyone paradoxically pays more, because there's no longer any reason to give the uninsured a "cash discount" because they are a large group who can pass it up and go somewhere else, and the insured have to pay for insurance and then it has a $10,000 deductible. | Apr 07 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | But at the time, it was sold as a law that would bring down your costs of healthcare, and we've never been worse off than we are now. | Apr 07 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | So if anti-forced arbitration bills are floating around in Congress, here's how it will work. | Apr 07 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | One of two things will happen. | Apr 07 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | 1. They'll introduce one with teeth that is not meant to pass, and threaten to pass it to raise money from industry. | Apr 07 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | -or- 2. It will pass, after the industry pays up and says "You need to change this so it doesn't threaten us, but you can tell your constituents you're doing big things here in Washington." | Apr 07 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be an industry-backed bill by the time it gets passed, if it passed, because they all are. | Apr 07 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | The best part will be is whatever passes will preempt state laws that actually do something. | Apr 07 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Like the "You can SPAM Act" of 2003 did. | Apr 07 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | Well, at least you don't seem to feel like I'm being malicious here | Apr 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | After CAN-SPAM, the problem went up immediately, 10 times worse than ever before. | Apr 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I never try to contact anyone in Congress. | Apr 07 11:59 |
| techrights-news | after repeatedly ignoring the issue, devoting not even a single sentence to is, Max Walters or his publish finally acknowledge the EPO's crisis https://www.managingip.com/article/b1xgwst1q4cnm4/epo-unrest-returns-should-ip-owners-be-worried | Apr 07 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | EPO unrest returns: should IP owners be worried? | Managing Intellectual Property | Apr 07 12:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Stallman says to sometimes, but I think he does that out of a 1970s mindset where they still cared about constituents somewhat. | Apr 07 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them have answering machines, but it's probably just some temp in there hitting delete messages. | Apr 07 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Congress is good at a couple of things. | Apr 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | Throwing an ungodly amount of money around and watching our country fall apart and not lifting a finger to help (because it's not concerned). | Apr 07 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | The globalists won a long time ago. | Apr 07 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | They've erased any sense of patriotism that this country ever had. And they associate the very idea with "terrorism". You know, they say "patriot movements" on lists of "groups of concern to law enforcement". :) | Apr 07 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | If you still love your country, it means your politicians have not done their job. | Apr 07 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | The UN does do things. Consider Agenda 21, which is part of where this COVID nonsense came from. | Apr 07 12:06 |
| activelow | ^ "mandatory vaccination" was REJECTED in german parliament, with overwhelming majority against the Chancellor and government-coalition who proposed it | Apr 07 12:06 |
| activelow | few minutes ago, thanks god | Apr 07 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | They've been looking for a way to take away the standard of living in rich countries for decades now. | Apr 07 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | They used COVID as an excuse to "shut down" and perform "shock therapy" on those places. | Apr 07 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | Now they can open again, and it'll never be the same. In ways that nobody would have accepted previously. | Apr 07 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | Had an "emergency" not been going on. | Apr 07 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> Well, at least you don't seem to feel like I'm being malicious here | Apr 07 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | More malicious than T-Mobile? Difficult. | Apr 07 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't opt-out of forced arbitration within 30 days of setting up a T-Mobile or Comcast account, you've "agreed" to it. | Apr 07 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | Gosh if only I'd gone to lobby for a bill that would make that illegal or something | Apr 07 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | They bury the opt-out links in a bunch of broken redirecting long urls that you have to type in. | Apr 07 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's so if anyone goes to regulate them, they can say you had a choice. | Apr 07 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | But only 2-3% of customers will succeed, so it's hard to find enough people to start a class action. | Apr 07 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, The Senate keeps the filibuster as an excuse to not pass anything. | Apr 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | The House passes at least 10-12 bills before the Senate passes some version of 1 of them. | Apr 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans don't really want rid of Obamacare. They keep finding an off ramp. The truth is that they have to go up against voters who are smart enough to hate what the fucking thing has done to them. (smart) | Apr 07 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | So they always find one Senator who will "go rogue" that can't be punished. | Apr 07 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | How do you punish John McCain? He died of brain cancer a few months later. | Apr 07 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats have Manchin to trot out every time they don't really want to pass their own stuff. | Apr 07 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | Both parties have judges that nobody gets to decide on. | Apr 07 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | Trust me, anti-forced arbitration will go nowhere, except maybe in the states. | Apr 07 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | And if Congress passes anything, they'll make it worse than that, for everyone. | Apr 07 12:16 |
| activelow | it was many government-coalition members themselves who voted against their _own_ government proposal for "mandatory vaccination" | Apr 07 12:18 |
| activelow | which implies an anti-trust proceeding against the chancellor, normally | Apr 07 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | What? You mean that they took it up just to prove it wouldn't pass? | Apr 07 12:20 |
| activelow | not sure | Apr 07 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's smart. What Senators here usually do is threaten to filibuster instead of letting a bill they know wouldn't pass anyway come up to damage the president. | Apr 07 12:21 |
| activelow | the government itself is at stake now; a government-coalition can't simply propose a legislation and see their own coalition-members reject it | Apr 07 12:21 |
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| activelow | typically, such an election is followed by an anti-trust against the Chancellor and the government, meaning the government again proposes the legislation, and then combines it with an anti-trust vote | Apr 07 12:24 |
| activelow | either the entire government-coalition agrees, or government steps down | Apr 07 12:24 |
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| activelow | there had not been any parliament debate or vote about "weapons supplies" yet, as far as "democracy" and "constitutional state" are concerned, in germany | Apr 07 12:30 |
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| activelow | according to the constitution, parliament _must_ decide about military participation in conflicts; yet government "arguments" were, weapons deliveries supposedly weren't any participation in a conflict, and deliveries had to remain secret | Apr 07 12:33 |
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| activelow | anyway, to my knowledge, the "mandatory vaccination" votes were public, with each individual member of parliament known how they voted | Apr 07 12:34 |
| activelow | looking forward to see this discussed in public too, if at all | Apr 07 12:35 |
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| activelow | "more than 300 covid deaths daily" | Apr 07 12:40 |
| activelow | that's ~100000 "corona" deaths per year, roughly the the annual amount of immigrants into germany | Apr 07 12:45 |
| mjg59_ | Gosh that's two very unrelated numbers that you're associating for no obvious reason | Apr 07 12:46 |
| activelow | which is related to the argument "mandatory vaccination" supposedly "prevent[ed] health care collapse", since immigration is known as a burden | Apr 07 12:46 |
| activelow | besides, in germany, lack of housing, meaning any immigrant requires some space to live, when population sized increased +3million in recent years | Apr 07 12:47 |
| mjg59_ | Vaccination pretty obviously reduces demands on the healthcare system? | Apr 07 12:47 |
| mjg59_ | Is your argument that immigration should have been blocked instead? | Apr 07 12:48 |
| activelow | not my opinion, merely iterating over "arguments" for "mandatory vaccination" | Apr 07 12:48 |
| activelow | mjg59_: concerning immigration, there is both _facts_ and my _opinion_ | Apr 07 12:48 |
| mjg59_ | Vaccination of the entire population reduces healthcare burden more than blocking 100,000 immigrants | Apr 07 12:49 |
| activelow | beginning with the _facts_ is a challenge already, given the excess propaganda and agitation in germany | Apr 07 12:49 |
| activelow | such as, one argument, immigration was necessary for the labor market, with severe shortage of staff reported for healthcare itself, among many other sectors | Apr 07 12:50 |
| mjg59_ | If, even with vaccination, 100,000 people die, the argument would have to be that the *entire* immigrant population would impose an equivalent burden on the healthcare system and then die | Apr 07 12:50 |
| mjg59_ | Which is obviously not realistic! | Apr 07 12:51 |
| activelow | conerning immigration itself, it is tied to extreme propaganda and agitation, and an ideology which i fundementally reject, not immigration itself | Apr 07 12:51 |
| mjg59_ | So what point are you actually trying to make? | Apr 07 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> Vaccination pretty obviously reduces demands on the healthcare system? | Apr 07 12:53 |
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| DaemonFC | They don't force illegal immigrants to take jabs. | Apr 07 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | But they tried to cause Americans to lose their jobs if they refused. | Apr 07 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | They went to court and for the most part, the Supreme Court ruled that they can't push us around like that. | Apr 07 12:54 |
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| DaemonFC | The jabs didn't even put a dent in the transmission rate. More people than ever got infected in the third wave. | Apr 07 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | And pretty much all of the people I know who got COVID in that wave were fully vaccinated and "boosted". | Apr 07 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | The thing is obviously some sort of scam designed to make money off of a very weak vaccine. | Apr 07 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Several people I know personally who were "boosted" still ended up in the hospital, still ended up needing oxygen, still ended up on monoclonal antibodies. | Apr 07 12:56 |
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| DaemonFC | Of course, since it's so difficult to prove if and to what exact extent the vaccines did anything to help them, most people will probably argue that it "could have been worse" without the vaccine. | Apr 07 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | But that's not necessarily true. We'll never know. | Apr 07 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't seem to be any better off than the unvaccinated. | Apr 07 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | But since the CDC and health departments deny that there are serious vaccine side effects and won't produce actual numbers and statistics, we just don't know. | Apr 07 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that they won't publish study data and simply regurgitate what Pfizer and Moderna say about their own products, and celebrity endorsements, says a lot, to me. | Apr 07 12:58 |
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| activelow | "none of the mRNA vaccines has a regular approval"; Weidel, AfD | Apr 07 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | The government immediately went to trying to force people to do things under threat of losing their job and being thrown out of their home instead of just talking to people and trying to convince them. | Apr 07 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | That says everything. | Apr 07 12:59 |
| mjg59_ | Science makes it difficult to talk about individuals, but yes, we can absolutely say that vaccinated people are much less likely to end up in hospital, and also much less likely to end up dead | Apr 07 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody responds well to threats. | Apr 07 13:00 |
| mjg59_ | Severe health outcomes are *much* lower in vaccinated individuals | Apr 07 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | So it's uncertain what they expected to happen by threatening people other than lawsuits, which the fascists lost. | Apr 07 13:00 |
| *activelow smokes another cigarette | Apr 07 13:00 | |
| activelow | it's not as if i was keen on enjoying any more of this | Apr 07 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't plan to get any more at this point. The vaccines were a serious disappointment. | Apr 07 13:01 |
| mjg59_ | Great example! Not everyone who smokes ends up suffering adverse effects, but at a population level we can say that smoking has a meaningful impact on life expactancy | Apr 07 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | They did not protect people. In fact, there are many with heart problems now because of the vaccine jabs. | Apr 07 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | The more people take, the higher the odds of heart damage. | Apr 07 13:01 |
| mjg59_ | Adverse effects of the vaccines are massively lower than the expected health outcome of not being vaccinated | Apr 07 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, they seem to cause cognitive decline. | Apr 07 13:02 |
| activelow | mjg59_: propaganda lie | Apr 07 13:02 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Provide evidence | Apr 07 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | Trouble with memory and stuff, at least for months after the vaccine dose was administered. | Apr 07 13:02 |
| activelow | 2022-04-07 11:59:38 |NO_ACT PUBLICS| < activelow> "none of the mRNA vaccines has a regular approval"; Weidel, AfD | Apr 07 13:02 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Yeah, because the general vaccination approval process takes years, and this was not a scenario where that timescale worked | Apr 07 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | There's just too many people who have had weird "side effects" that have all come forward to ALL be lying or exaggerating. But doctors will continue dismissing it. | Apr 07 13:03 |
| activelow | again, propaganda lie | Apr 07 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | There's not going to be an investigation because they don't like admitting they were wrong. | Apr 07 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | There would be lawsuits, for starters. | Apr 07 13:03 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Nobody's arguing that nobody has side effects. But the total number of people who plausibly have side effects is very small compared to the number who would have been expected to die without vaccination | Apr 07 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's not just vaccines. Once any drug is approved, it's very hard to get it revoked no matter what it actually does to people. Look at statins. | Apr 07 13:04 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: What's a propaganda lie? | Apr 07 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | Doctors with a conscience will admit that statins cause memory loss, high blood sugar, and muscle and joint pains. | Apr 07 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | But the majority of them will gaslight you by laughing and saying "statins don't do that!". | Apr 07 13:05 |
| activelow | mjg59_: the covid vaccines were not approved, and were _not_ recommended either by german vaccination commission | Apr 07 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | One of those doctors talked to my husband and laughed about me and said I was full of shit because "statins don't do that!" and then when he went off of them anyway, all of that went away. | Apr 07 13:05 |
| mjg59_ | There's a difference between "x causes y" and "x can trigger y in some peopkle" | Apr 07 13:05 |
| activelow | furthermore, "deadliest pandemic in 30 years" was reported for year 2018 already, by german medical journal, although at that time no specific testing was conducted | Apr 07 13:06 |
| activelow | yet, that's all moot to discuss, because this isn't about facts, it is extremist propaganda and agitation | Apr 07 13:06 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: covid was not present in Germany in 2018 | Apr 07 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | He ended up going back on it, but only after I talked to the doctor and said, "You have him on too high a dose and what the hell do you think you're doing? His cholesterol is so low that he may be in danger from not having ENOUGH, and he certainly doesn't need all of this!". | Apr 07 13:06 |
| activelow | yet, "deadliest pandemic in 30 years" was, mjg59_, without any specific testing for "the corona" (whatever this was supposed to be) | Apr 07 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | So he went back on at half the original dose. He's certainly not AS bad as before. But once doctors have made a decision, they do anything to justify it. | Apr 07 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | Whether it actually causes more harm than the disease itself, even. | Apr 07 13:07 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Covid is a specific virus, which is demonstrably present across most of the planet right now, and which was *not* present in Germany in 2018 | Apr 07 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | I ran into one of those fake health department doctors who refused to put me on blood pressure medication and said to watch my sodium. | Apr 07 13:07 |
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| activelow | mjg59_: wrong, it was _not_ tested for year 2018 | Apr 07 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | Makes little difference. I ended up going to see a real doctor and getting on blood pressure meds. | Apr 07 13:08 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: It was not tested for because it didn't exist | Apr 07 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | So, you know, whether they want to overmedicate or do nothing, lots of doctors harm the patient. | Apr 07 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing you can be sure of is that there'll be a bill. | Apr 07 13:08 |
| activelow | except for the "deadliest pandemic in 30 years" , this existed, year 2018 already | Apr 07 13:08 |
| matey | hey mjg59_ people are saying you threatened someone, but i cant find any evidence of this | Apr 07 13:08 |
| matey | i suppose its possible, i simply cant get any information about it at all. obviously i dont expect you to help, though no one else has. | Apr 07 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is going to tolerate being threatened over not taking a "vaccine" that was cooked up in a lab over the course of "a few days". | Apr 07 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Under penalty of losing their ability to make the rent and put food on the table. | Apr 07 13:09 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Roy keeps falsely claiming I said something I didn't say, and the specific claim was a problem because I teach students, and so I asked him to retract the claim | Apr 07 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | That's how the left is. They go immediately to the threats. | Apr 07 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | They can't argue facts and logic. They go straight to threats. | Apr 07 13:10 |
| matey | oh well he also implied i went on some sort of rampage, because i decided i wasnt interested in watching derek taylor on youtube anymore. | Apr 07 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | If they had the data, they wouldn't need threats. | Apr 07 13:11 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: ? I asked him several times to take it down before then | Apr 07 13:11 |
| matey | like that was the whole thing. and he asked me to explain why, so i explained, and then he spent about a year telling people id gone crazy because of it. | Apr 07 13:11 |
| matey | the funny thing was... the exact response i gave is still logged. | Apr 07 13:11 |
| matey | there was nothing insane about it. | Apr 07 13:11 |
| mjg59_ | matey: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1458002432898781186 | Apr 07 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: This is about Matthew GAFAM #mjg who boasts about going to FOSS conferences to find sex https://t.co/1KjexlapKY | Apr 07 13:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.timeshighereducation.com | Why did no one warn me about conference sexual predators? | Times Higher Education (THE) | Apr 07 13:12 | |
| matey | the world roy occupies is (like with everyone ultimately) subjective | Apr 07 13:12 |
| matey | though maybe a bit more subjective than average | Apr 07 13:12 |
| matey | /me fires up nitter | Apr 07 13:12 |
| matey | no i dont have an account. its just faster than viewing the website | Apr 07 13:12 |
| mjg59_ | matey: (obviously the claims Roy makes there are untrue) | Apr 07 13:14 |
| matey | there was a guy with your handle in here who was talking about how roy was "missing out" if he didnt get laid at conferences though | Apr 07 13:15 |
| matey | i read it myself in the logs, a year or two ago | Apr 07 13:15 |
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| matey | or more recently | Apr 07 13:15 |
| matey | im not saying it was you, just that they had a handle that suggested it was you | Apr 07 13:15 |
| matey | im not saying he should tweet things that affect your career or anything | Apr 07 13:16 |
| matey | just that i can see why he is of that impression (false or otherwise) | Apr 07 13:16 |
| mjg59_ | matey: You should probably re-read it | Apr 07 13:17 |
| matey | yes, in fact i will do so this moment. | Apr 07 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Someone did grope me once. I just punched him out and got up and left. | Apr 07 13:17 |
| mjg59_ | (It was me, but that wasn't what I said) | Apr 07 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | No police. | Apr 07 13:17 |
| matey | (fair enough) | Apr 07 13:17 |
| matey | i suppose first of all "who boasts about going to FOSS conferences to find sex" <- you didnt say that per se | Apr 07 13:17 |
| matey | you didnt say you went there to find sex | Apr 07 13:18 |
| matey | thats a loose (one might say sloppy) interpretation | Apr 07 13:18 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Sex happens at FOSS conferences, and people who don't know that are people who are unaware of the level of community interaction that occurs there | Apr 07 13:18 |
| matey | well im probably closer to you than roy on the prude scale anyway | Apr 07 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Most people are pretty gross, honestly. | Apr 07 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | And opportunists. | Apr 07 13:19 |
| mjg59_ | matey: You don't need to be having sex to be sufficiently aware of what's going on - what I meant by "missing out" is that people are missing out on the community aspect of the conferences | Apr 07 13:19 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> Most people are pretty gross, honestly. <- yes | Apr 07 13:19 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> And opportunists. <- not sure about "most" but... a lot. | Apr 07 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Also, consider how dumb the average person is, and then consider that half of them are even dumber than that. | Apr 07 13:19 |
| matey | the two go hand in hand (so to speak) because its only gross when its OTHER PEOPLE, DaemonFC | Apr 07 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | So you put it all together, and what do you get? | Apr 07 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | This is a country full of slobs. | Apr 07 13:20 |
| matey | a lot of opportunisma bout people being gross | Apr 07 13:20 |
| matey | of course by gross its most often just double standards | Apr 07 13:20 |
| matey | you poop on a toilet, i would never do such a horrible thing. | Apr 07 13:20 |
| matey | because i do not poop. | Apr 07 13:21 |
| matey | only "you people" do that sort of thing. | Apr 07 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | Hey, hey, hey! In, not on! | Apr 07 13:21 |
| matey | its ambiguous. is the poop on the toilet, or me? | Apr 07 13:21 |
| matey | also its ambiguous because the french refer to the entire bathroom as the toilet | Apr 07 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | One of the first books many people get their kids is Everybody Poops. | Apr 07 13:21 |
| mjg59_ | matey: You put a bunch of activists in one place, and some of them are going to fuck. That's how activist communities behave. Roy's belief that that doesn't happen implies that he's missing out on actually being part of one of those communities. | Apr 07 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's actually the book. | Apr 07 13:22 |
| matey | One of the first books many people get their kids is Everybody Poops. <- that fact that such a book exists says a lot about how uptight people are in general | Apr 07 13:22 |
| matey | oh ive seen it in shop windows. i know it exists. | Apr 07 13:22 |
| matey | <mjg59_> matey: You put a bunch of activists in one place, and some of them are going to fuck. That's how activist communities behave. <- we are in agreement here | Apr 07 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.amazon.com/Everyone-Turtleback-School-Library-Binding/dp/0613685725 | Apr 07 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Everyone Poops (Turtleback Binding Edition): Taro Gomi, Amanda Mayer Stinchecum, Amanda Mayer Stinchecum: 9780613685726: Amazon.com: Books | Apr 07 13:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Errr, there we go. | Apr 07 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | For a childlike mentality. | Apr 07 13:23 |
| bnchs | everybody poops | Apr 07 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, a lot of people never fully grow out of it. | Apr 07 13:23 |
| bnchs | wtf is it | Apr 07 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Many people I know are stunted emotionally. | Apr 07 13:23 |
| mjg59_ | I've pretty consistently been in relationships the entire time I've been attending FOSS conferences, so sex is not the reason I'm showing up | Apr 07 13:24 |
| matey | <mjg59_> I've pretty consistently been in relationships the entire time I've been attending FOSS conferences, so sex is not the reason I'm showing up <- thats fair | Apr 07 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you can tell that something happened along the way and they stopped developing emotionally around their teenage years. They may certainly learn new things or tactics, but emotionally they're always going to be like...15. | Apr 07 13:24 |
| matey | im in an open relationship, but most conferences fail to attract me for other reasons, so im not likely to find sex (or anything else) at one. | Apr 07 13:25 |
| mjg59_ | And I teach students, and some of those students might at some point be attending a conference I attend, so having public assertions that I show up at conferences looking for sex is kind of a problem | Apr 07 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "You put a bunch of activists in one place, and some of them are going to fuck." -FSF AWARD WINNER | Apr 07 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | When you're a child, or at least when I was a child, you viewed your parents through the lens of "This is bullshit. I can't wait to be an adult so I don't have two dumb assholes making arbitrary rules." | Apr 07 13:25 |
| *schestowitz-TR back to writing about EPO | Apr 07 13:25 | |
| matey | You put a bunch of activists in one place, and some of them are going to fuck. <- i dont find any problem with this factual statement | Apr 07 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | Then you're an adult, BAM, and instead of two dumb assholes, it's every dumb asshole around you voting for some dumb assholes to go make rules, called the government. | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | crude and pointless | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not even on topic tbh | Apr 07 13:26 |
| matey | DaemonFC <- then they start making them! | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was muted for turning this intoi "sexright" | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to bring up difficult subjects | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make us look bad | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | bbl | Apr 07 13:26 |
| matey | /me doesnt think this is a difficult subject | Apr 07 13:26 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: I was expressly asked about this topic | Apr 07 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you are in the wrong channel and networ | Apr 07 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | activelow was locked in his house by the dumb assholes in charge where he's at. | Apr 07 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we do social issues and software freedom | Apr 07 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | For not wanting to inject himself thrice with a lab experiment. | Apr 07 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | while you'\re busy doing the opposite for personal gain | Apr 07 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | bbl | Apr 07 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | They tried doing it here too. | Apr 07 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone who questions the lab experiment is an anti-vaxxer, even if they have all of their routine adult vaccines. | Apr 07 13:28 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Anyway hope that answers your question about the "threats" | Apr 07 13:28 |
| matey | mjg59_ everything except why they consider that a threat, but | Apr 07 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | Because the dumb assholes don't have any other way of framing the issue that appeals to people. | Apr 07 13:28 |
| matey | thats sort of their thing | Apr 07 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | The world has been effectively ruined in the last two years by dumb assholes and a lab experiment regarding a bad cold. | Apr 07 13:29 |
| matey | im not asking you to get in his head | Apr 07 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | By design. Gave them an excuse for corporate welfare and mass layoffs. | Apr 07 13:29 |
| matey | an excuse for corporate welfare and mass layoffs. <- it certainly turned into that pretty quickly | Apr 07 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | They could have cooked up any reason, but to get people really afraid of each other, you say it's a disease. | Apr 07 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody wants a disease. | Apr 07 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Suddenly, they accept any alternative to being DISEASED. | Apr 07 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | No matter how insane. | Apr 07 13:30 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Eh after he refused to remove the untrue accusation I did get a lawyer to send him a letter | Apr 07 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | The implication that you were in the bathroom stalls up to some hanky panky? | Apr 07 13:31 |
| matey | and of course, everyone who has a lawyer sending a letter here is automatically SLAPPing | Apr 07 13:31 |
| matey | regardless of what the letter says | Apr 07 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's a thought I'll never be able to get rid of. Eww. | Apr 07 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well, just compartmentalize. | Apr 07 13:32 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: I'm pretty sure you're still very confused about my sexuality | Apr 07 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's worked for every other thing that I don't want in there. | Apr 07 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really care. I just find the ambiguity of it amusing on some level. | Apr 07 13:33 |
| matey | "It's worked for every other thing that I don't want in there." today is straightline day | Apr 07 13:34 |
| matey | its an international holiday | Apr 07 13:34 |
| matey | which DaemonFC is working very hard to start | Apr 07 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get how people never get over being a victim though. It's not that hard. | Apr 07 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Life's too short to be a victim of everything that happens to you, forever. | Apr 07 13:35 |
| matey | thats true | Apr 07 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | Hell, I've outlived half of them and I'm only ~38. | Apr 07 13:35 |
| matey | mjg59_ this is turning into a rite of passage, something along the lines of endless hazing | Apr 07 13:35 |
| matey | or abuse as its more commonly referred to, but one thing you cant deny about the tech industry is it likes to rename everything | Apr 07 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | You know, in the moment I thought about at least a couple of them, how bad they wronged me and how I wanted to go and kill them (not literally, just madder than hell and "Wouldn't it be nice if they were just dead?"). | Apr 07 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then some time passed and some of them are dead. | Apr 07 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | *I* didn't have to do it. | Apr 07 13:36 |
| matey | /me completely relates to dfc on this actually | Apr 07 13:36 |
| mjg59_ | Roy's also accused me of calling him transphobic, which I don't believe I've ever done | Apr 07 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | They don't exist anymore. | Apr 07 13:36 |
| mjg59_ | I've accused him of tolerating transphobia, but that's not the same thing | Apr 07 13:37 |
| matey | thats probably a nuance he hasnt given serious consideration to | Apr 07 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, when someone does something really nasty to you, jump into the future. Say "This is the past and they're going to fall over dead someday and blink into non-existence. Like we all do.". | Apr 07 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then get over it. | Apr 07 13:37 |
| mjg59_ | But that one has no impact on the rest of my life, so whatever | Apr 07 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | File it away somewhere, don't think about it again. | Apr 07 13:37 |
| matey | sort of like the nuance of me deciding derek taylor wasnt worth my time anymore and me going on some sort of rampage about it | Apr 07 13:38 |
| mjg59_ | And obviously all the disagreements about secure boot and other related technologies are legitimate disagreements | Apr 07 13:38 |
| matey | yeah im sort of anti-secure-boot myself | Apr 07 13:38 |
| matey | i mean, im sure theres some legitimacy to your technical arguments about it | Apr 07 13:38 |
| matey | but as to a matter of approach, we can probably never agree | Apr 07 13:38 |
| matey | and you seem realistic about that. | Apr 07 13:38 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah we can approach this from different angles and have different positions on it | Apr 07 13:38 |
| mjg59_ | That's fine | Apr 07 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you know. Lawyers are in business because people can't let something go and so it's like "drinking poison and expecting someone else to die". | Apr 07 13:38 |
| mjg59_ | Not even upset about people thinking that I'm actually evil for it | Apr 07 13:39 |
| matey | actually im willing to accept the possibility that secure boot itself is evil and youre merely misguided | Apr 07 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | My sister-in-law spent thousands on a lawyer purely for her own emotional blowout against me. And at the end of the day, it didn't affect us at all. | Apr 07 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | She was out the money, and it made absolutely no difference to us. | Apr 07 13:39 |
| matey | my only REAL quarrel with you is over rms of course | Apr 07 13:39 |
| matey | but its you and 3000 other people so | Apr 07 13:40 |
| mjg59_ | But once you're falsely claiming that I do something that's incompatible with some of my other professional ethical requirements, that's a problem | Apr 07 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | Revenge is not a good business to be in. | Apr 07 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | Except for the lawyers, I guess. | Apr 07 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | She's so underwater on her house, cars, and credit card statements that she'll never see the light of day again, and she's trying to resort to paper terrorism? | Apr 07 13:41 |
| matey | but at least you explained your personal motivations | Apr 07 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'd pity her except it wastes energy. I just use it as an example. | Apr 07 13:41 |
| matey | <mjg59_> But once you're falsely claiming that I do something that's incompatible with some of my other professional ethical requirements, that's a problem <- yes | Apr 07 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Someone shooting themselves in their foor. | Apr 07 13:41 |
| mjg59_ | All I want is for the accusation to be deleted and a correction to be posted | Apr 07 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | *foot | Apr 07 13:41 |
| mjg59_ | Literally all I asked for | Apr 07 13:42 |
| mjg59_ | Did not ask for any money or anything | Apr 07 13:42 |
| matey | well i think this is more about pride than ethics or anything | Apr 07 13:42 |
| matey | i didnt say yours | Apr 07 13:42 |
| mjg59_ | And then Roy recorded a video that reiterated the false accusations and involved him tearing up the letter | Apr 07 13:43 |
| mjg59_ | So, eh, I feel like we may not be in a space where reasonable discussion can occur | Apr 07 13:44 |
| mjg59_ | Open to it if he changes his mind | Apr 07 13:44 |
| matey | every year, everything within a 2-continent radius of the fsf turns more and more into the (american) office. | Apr 07 13:44 |
| matey | "I feel like we may not be in a space where reasonable discussion can occur" that is more or less why im here | Apr 07 13:44 |
| matey | because i know it cant | Apr 07 13:44 |
| techrights-news | GIMP 2.10 review • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163452 | Apr 07 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.10 review | Tux Machines | Apr 07 13:45 | |
| mjg59_ | Anyway, like I said, I signed the rms letter because of my personal experiences with rms prioritising his own interests over the free software community in ways that harmed them | Apr 07 13:45 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163453 | Apr 07 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 13:45 | |
| matey | yes you explained it | Apr 07 13:45 |
| matey | i didnt mention it for the sake of rehashing it, only clarification | Apr 07 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | The ShitHub Letter......(Microsoft ShitHub) | Apr 07 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Where your project can die any minute because of the US DMCA. | Apr 07 13:45 |
| techrights-news | Linux Mint’s New Upgrade Tool Aims to Make the Update Process a Breeze http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423#comment-33298 | Apr 07 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines | Apr 07 13:46 | |
| matey | i mean if its mirrored it wont necessarily die | Apr 07 13:46 |
| matey | its more like a damn good stabbing | Apr 07 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's extremely dangerous to rely on ShitHub because once they close down your repo, you'll lose all of your commit history if nothing else, unless you have it all mirrored somewhere else. | Apr 07 13:46 |
| matey | it definitely fucks with the inertia of a project to be forced to move | Apr 07 13:46 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Uh it's git every single checkout has the commit history | Apr 07 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | If you're only using GitHub as a mirror of the real repo, which is somewhere else, I suppose the potential for harm is limited. | Apr 07 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | But don't let them be your only copy. | Apr 07 13:47 |
| matey | even i dont worry about mirrors, if theyre strictly treated as mirrors | Apr 07 13:48 |
| mjg59_ | Someone had to push their tree to github in the first place | Apr 07 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be a cold cold day in Hell before I trust Microsoft with any important data. | Apr 07 13:48 |
| mjg59_ | There's pretty much definitionally another copy of it | Apr 07 13:48 |
| matey | a lot of mirrors are very responsive to "just the tip" strategies, unfortunately | Apr 07 13:48 |
| matey | and thats another thing-- we will use every kind of saucy metaphor we can think up here | Apr 07 13:49 |
| matey | but once someone means it literally! oh, boy! | Apr 07 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Recently, IKEA threatened the developer of a DOOM port to one of their smart lamps. | Apr 07 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | He took the entire thing down and won't give it to anyone. | Apr 07 13:49 |
| mjg59_ | So you're saying that the source still exists | Apr 07 13:50 |
| mjg59_ | Including commit history | Apr 07 13:50 |
| matey | /me probably wont buy anything from ikea ever again | Apr 07 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | How do you even threaten someone for telling people how to disassemble a smart lamp and run some code on a processor? | Apr 07 13:50 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> How do you even threaten someone for telling people how to disassemble a smart lamp and run some code on a processor? <- lawyers! | Apr 07 13:50 |
| mjg59_ | That's a great question! | Apr 07 13:50 |
| mjg59_ | And, hilariously, the DMCA does not give hosting providers much leeway in making that decision themselves | Apr 07 13:50 |
| mjg59_ | We said this was bad back in 2000! | Apr 07 13:50 |
| matey | the dmca is a big pile of shit | Apr 07 13:50 |
| mjg59_ | Companies that are forced to adhere to the DMCA have to make bad decisions | Apr 07 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I totally ignore the DMCA myself. | Apr 07 13:51 |
| matey | it just goes over your head then | Apr 07 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | Use service providers in countries where it doesn't apply and the notices go right into the trash. | Apr 07 13:52 |
| matey | to your isp or whatever | Apr 07 13:52 |
| matey | Use service providers in countries where it doesn't apply <- that might work | Apr 07 13:52 |
| matey | of course there are other treaties to be wary of, but you must know that already | Apr 07 13:52 |
| matey | unless youre running something on a scale of kim dot com... | Apr 07 13:52 |
| matey | someones sharing files! send in the marines! | Apr 07 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | The DMCA has given rise to an industry of Americans hiding themselves behind foreign-owned VPNs and Tor, and using Pseudonyms to publish things to shield themselves from lawsuits. | Apr 07 13:53 |
| matey | fuck the marines, send in the navy seals! | Apr 07 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | But there's more "copyright infringement" now than ever before. | Apr 07 13:53 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Unfortunately it's pretty much an implementation of a WIPO agreement, so most countries end up with something similar that's just less generally understood | Apr 07 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | The DMCA has failed spectacularly and given foreign companies a strong selling point. | Apr 07 13:53 |
| matey | Unfortunately it's pretty much an implementation of a WIPO agreement, so most countries end up with something similar that's just less generally understood <- indeed | Apr 07 13:54 |
| matey | and people wonder why i hate the united nations | Apr 07 13:54 |
| matey | its not because im right wing (which im not) | Apr 07 13:54 |
| matey | the states were content with public domain unless registered | Apr 07 13:54 |
| matey | but in the 1970s wipo finally backed them into a wall | Apr 07 13:55 |
| matey | software wasnt copyrightable either. they "fixed" that too | Apr 07 13:55 |
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| DaemonFC | mjg59_, The US has been the nastiest and most forceful, for sure. | Apr 07 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, it seems in many other countries, that people figure something out pretty fast. | Apr 07 13:56 |
| matey | well sure. it may let europe fight for years and get tired before it does anything | Apr 07 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Pirate Bay has been around for like, 20 years or more. | Apr 07 13:56 |
| matey | but when it does finally show up, it tends to be nasty | Apr 07 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | They got raided a few times, but for lack of any specific Swedish law against them doing what they do, their stuff always comes back. | Apr 07 13:56 |
| mjg59_ | UK implemented a bunch of equivalent law in 2002 | Apr 07 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | It's essentially like being SWATed. There's no legal underpinning for it. | Apr 07 13:57 |
| mjg59_ | We're 20 years into this shit | Apr 07 13:57 |
| mjg59_ | Ended up having an argument with David Braben about this in a pub back then | Apr 07 13:57 |
| matey | make the world a better place, send a lawyer into space | Apr 07 13:57 |
| mjg59_ | (He's a copyright maximalist) | Apr 07 13:57 |
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| matey | we only get fucked if they make first contact | Apr 07 13:58 |
| activelow | copyright and enforcment themselves must remain compliant with constitutional state and rule of law | Apr 07 13:58 |
| matey | <activelow> copyright and enforcment themselves must remain compliant with constitutional state and rule of law <- unfortunately, this is not at all true in practice | Apr 07 13:59 |
| matey | as lessig can easily demonstrate. | Apr 07 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | All the laws do is force copyright infringement methods to burrow in deeper. | Apr 07 13:59 |
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| matey | he went to challenge ctea on constitutional grounds | Apr 07 13:59 |
| activelow | slight off-topic, nonetheless, most of what "music industry" is distribution is violating EBU standards and public health ("loudness war") | Apr 07 13:59 |
| matey | scotus replied "if this was unconstitutional we would have already said so" | Apr 07 13:59 |
| activelow | i mean, in compliance with law, most of what music industry is selling is in violation of law to begin with | Apr 07 13:59 |
| matey | which i consider a cheeky non-answer | Apr 07 13:59 |
| matey | but i dont have much hope for scotus. | Apr 07 14:00 |
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| activelow | yet, those criminals rather dicuss copying and threats to their business model | Apr 07 14:00 |
| matey | yet, those criminals rather dicuss copying and threats to their business model <- they dont poop | Apr 07 14:00 |
| matey | only we poop | Apr 07 14:00 |
| matey | thats something they would never do! | Apr 07 14:00 |
| matey | poop is concentrated evil coming out of your rectum. if you poop, its probably because you did something bad. | Apr 07 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | The RIAA v. Napster case actually caused an explosion of "piracy". | Apr 07 14:01 |
| activelow | in USA it is bs1770, in EU it is ebu-128r, besides WHO and hearing protection (although WHO isn't competent, RIIAA and EBU are) | Apr 07 14:01 |
| matey | stop being a bad person and you wont poop anymore | Apr 07 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | After the courts gave them the ruling, Napster got shut down. But...Napster was very limited. | Apr 07 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | The protocol sucked. It was inefficient (direct download, basically), it could only (officially) share MP3s, and it depended upon a central server. | Apr 07 14:02 |
| matey | precedents are precedents though | Apr 07 14:02 |
| activelow | i mean, almost everything which is distributed by "music industry" is in violation of law, regardless of how it is distributed | Apr 07 14:02 |
| activelow | furthermore, too public broadcasters funded with tax-payers money violate EBU-128r | Apr 07 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Everything newer than Napster shares arbitrary file types, from multiple peers, and most of them have no central server. | Apr 07 14:02 |
| matey | per se | Apr 07 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | So the RIAA/MPAA got some more "court victories", but what did it accomplish? | Apr 07 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | They shut down things like Kazaa. | Apr 07 14:03 |
| matey | they drove infringement further underground | Apr 07 14:03 |
| MinceR | it made some fascists feel good | Apr 07 14:03 |
| matey | this is a predictable pattern too | Apr 07 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | Kazaa had a very weak file hashing system, and the RIAA was already poisoning its network. | Apr 07 14:03 |
| matey | in france they used to crack down (literally) on fabric pattern infringment | Apr 07 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | They did more damage by polluting it with fake files than they did by shutting it down in court. | Apr 07 14:04 |
| matey | they would grant monopolies on certain fabric patterns to nobility | Apr 07 14:04 |
| activelow | and, concerning video games, there's certainly one or another public health concern to discuss | Apr 07 14:04 |
| matey | as a gift or whatever | Apr 07 14:04 |
| matey | so in france, if you copied these patterns, you had to pay royalties | Apr 07 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | So then with Kazaa and Napster and others out of the way, there's nothing "good enough" to work anymore, and BitTorrent comes out. | Apr 07 14:04 |
| matey | the punishment for infringement went all the way up to "breaking on the wheel" | Apr 07 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | Suddenly it's much harder to corrupt data in transit, and there's things like PeX and DHT and magnet links. | Apr 07 14:05 |
| MinceR | also, it inspired some ISPs to make their services even shittier | Apr 07 14:05 |
| matey | did it stop people from copying fabric patterns? fuck no | Apr 07 14:05 |
| matey | they could make it a capital crime and people would still do it | Apr 07 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, ISPs tried throttling it, and were sued. | Apr 07 14:05 |
| matey | people REALLY LIKE TO SHARE STUFF | Apr 07 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | I sued Comcast in that class action, btw. | Apr 07 14:05 |
| matey | even if it might cost them their life | Apr 07 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | They lost and paid a settlement and agreed to quit using Sandvine. | Apr 07 14:05 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> I sued Comcast in that class action, btw. <- nice | Apr 07 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | So really, the big threat to BitTorrent is there's a lot of ways for them to see your IP address and log it. | Apr 07 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | Then they can threaten you via your ISP and maybe (but not usually) sue. If your ISP gets enough DMCA letters, it may well boot you off their service. | Apr 07 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | But you can run a VPN and then open BitTorrent, and as long as the VPN is configured correctly, your ISP doesn't know you're using it. Only that there's something using traffic. | Apr 07 14:07 |
| matey | and then you can go online and appeal it with the virtual court sys-- oh | Apr 07 14:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, the ISPs have adopted "Six Strikes"-like policies so nobody can accuse them of doing nothing. | Apr 07 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | Especially after Cox lost against the MPAA. | Apr 07 14:09 |
| matey | and this is why i never go to movies or buy music | Apr 07 14:09 |
| matey | frankly the whole industry can die in a fucking fire | Apr 07 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to be safe from the ISP is to poke their eye out with some sort of VPN or Tor. | Apr 07 14:09 |
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| DaemonFC | You don't want to browse or download anything in the clear anymore. | Apr 07 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | Too easy to get threatened for it. | Apr 07 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading a lawyer's blog the other day where he figured that porn studios were allowing full copies of their videos to go onto unauthorized websites with the goal of eventually suing people who went there and watched them in their web browser. | Apr 07 14:12 |
| matey | with the goal of eventually suing people who went there and watched them <- except watching isnt infringment | Apr 07 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | There were a few that got caught uploading their own videos. They'll still do that, but they'll take more aggressive action now to hide the fact that it's them doing it. | Apr 07 14:13 |
| matey | you have to distribute | Apr 07 14:13 |
| matey | the reason they got kazaa users is that downloading becomes distribution | Apr 07 14:14 |
| matey | no idea how that deals with leaches | Apr 07 14:14 |
| matey | probably by insinuating they dont exist | Apr 07 14:14 |
| matey | at any rate the default is non-leaching | Apr 07 14:14 |
| matey | and most people use default settings | Apr 07 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I leeched off of Kazaa without sharing anything. | Apr 07 14:15 |
| matey | thats you | Apr 07 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | Kazaa tracked your share ratio though. | Apr 07 14:15 |
| matey | of course | Apr 07 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | What it did was it calculated it, and the lower it fell, the worse your download speed got. | Apr 07 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | But when you patched it out of the client (it was client-side), you could set your participation level to 1,000 (maximum) without sharing anything. | Apr 07 14:16 |
| matey | leaches of course are only an issue if there are too many | Apr 07 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | Then you always got priority over legitimate users. | Apr 07 14:16 |
| matey | Then you always got priority over legitimate users. <- at this point its just the prisoners dilemma | Apr 07 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.wired.com/2002/04/kazaa-lite-no-spyware-aftertaste/ | Apr 07 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kazaa Lite: No Spyware Aftertaste | WIRED | Apr 07 14:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Kazaa Lite basically installed Kazaa without unpacking and installing the spyware. | Apr 07 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Then I can't recall if it was that or Kazaa++ or whatever it was that added all of the features of the premium version and set your participation to 1,000. | Apr 07 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | "PARTICIPATE! PARTICIPAAAAAAATE!" | Apr 07 14:18 |
| MinceR | EXTERMINATE! | Apr 07 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | I also had a program for Yahoo Messenger that blocked the advertisements, added an anti-spam challenge to everyone who messaged me, and protected me from "boot tools". | Apr 07 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | Also, I had a boot tool that let me boot other people off of Yahoo Messengers. | Apr 07 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | The booters were an easy way to sit back and disrupt conversations in rooms I didn't like, or to effectively have moderator powers in public chatrooms. | Apr 07 14:21 |
| MinceR | (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx1g1W7Xm7w | Apr 07 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lx1g1W7Xm7w | Apr 07 14:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Cruel Cacos Thesis - Invidious | Apr 07 14:21 | |
| DaemonFC | The booters probably still work with the actual Yahoo software if you still run it through Escargot. | Apr 07 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why they wouldn't, unless the Escargot server filters out the malformed data packets before it reaches the client. | Apr 07 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.extremetech.com/computing/324175-some-tpm-2-0-capable-systems-are-still-ineligible-for-windows-11?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook | Apr 07 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some TPM 2.0-Capable Systems Are Still Ineligible for Windows 11 - ExtremeTech | Apr 07 14:28 | |
| techrights-news | "Developer Room-C Games working with Croteam have announced that The Hand of Merlin will see full Steam Deck support, as work continues on their Native GNU/Linux version." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-hand-of-merlin-to-get-full-native-linux-and-steam-deck-support/ | Apr 07 14:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Hand of Merlin to get full Native Linux and Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux | Apr 07 14:29 | |
| DaemonFC | While people complain that Fedora is considering deprecating Legacy BIOS support (latest systems came out in 2009, I think), it's unclear as to exactly what Windows 11 will run on "with support". | Apr 07 14:29 |
| techrights-news | "The original developer who was working on Steam Deck support was sadly caught up in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with Ludeon Studios mentioning they are now safe." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/rimworld-now-includes-full-steam-deck-support/ | Apr 07 14:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RimWorld now includes full Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux | Apr 07 14:29 | |
| DaemonFC | TPM 2.0 itself isn't "good enough" to avoid the "unsupported" watermark, in all cases. | Apr 07 14:29 |
| matey | omg | Apr 07 14:30 |
| matey | /me hugs xterm | Apr 07 14:30 |
| techrights-news | "Half-Life Alyx: LEVITATION is an impressive looking upcoming mod for Valve's incredible VR experience. Probably one of the best games and gaming experiences, I've ever had. I'm itching to play a whole lot more in this world." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/half-life-alyx-levitation-promises-another-4-5-hours-of-vr-fun/ | Apr 07 14:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Half-Life Alyx: LEVITATION promises another 4-5 hours of VR fun | GamingOnLinux | Apr 07 14:30 | |
| matey | copy works better than i thought | Apr 07 14:30 |
| matey | /me must have known this trick 10 years ago but never used it | Apr 07 14:30 |
| psydruid | I like Fedora's support policy | Apr 07 14:31 |
| matey | it works with tk at least | Apr 07 14:31 |
| bnchs__ | matey: xterm is actually a vector terminal emulator | Apr 07 14:31 |
| bnchs__ | in a different mode | Apr 07 14:31 |
| matey | Fedora is considering deprecating Legacy BIOS support <- wasnt aware of this | Apr 07 14:31 |
| psydruid | I hope some day they'll abandon all of my hardware and aim only for the latest and greatest power-hogging hardware | Apr 07 14:32 |
| matey | matey: xterm is actually a vector terminal emulator <- meaning? | Apr 07 14:32 |
| techrights-news | ICBM wants people to increase Red Hat vendor lockin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ansible-plugin-inventory-files | Apr 07 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to write an Ansible plugin to create inventory files | Enable Sysadmin | Apr 07 14:32 | |
| bnchs__ | meani guhhh | Apr 07 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora says that there will probably be at least a few versions where Legacy BIOS still works, but only for upgrade installs. | Apr 07 14:33 |
| matey | ill rephrase then-- what are you referring to other than its ability to use truetype fonts? | Apr 07 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | Once they've blocked new installs for a while, I guess they won't have many people left using it, and can transition without lots of complaints. | Apr 07 14:33 |
| bnchs__ | no i'm not referring to that | Apr 07 14:34 |
| bnchs__ | it's a emulator that emulates vector terminals | Apr 07 14:34 |
| bnchs__ | i mean if you do xterm -t | Apr 07 14:34 |
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| matey | -t isnt supported in this version | Apr 07 14:35 |
| bnchs__ | well weird | Apr 07 14:35 |
| matey | maybe openbsd i dont know | Apr 07 14:35 |
| bnchs__ | xterm -t makes it emulate a Tek4014 terminal | Apr 07 14:35 |
| bnchs__ | works for me | Apr 07 14:35 |
| techrights-news | OpenWrt project infrastructure addition https://openwrt.org/infrastructure?rev=1649325884&do=diff | Apr 07 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] OpenWrt project infrastructure | Apr 07 14:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Oh this is great. | Apr 07 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | Something is causing Firefox to freeze up now. | Apr 07 14:37 |
| matey | https://retrocomputingforum.com/t/pidp-11-and-tek4014-vector-display-emulation/573 | Apr 07 14:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-retrocomputingforum.com | PiDP-11 and Tek4014 vector display emulation - Discussions - Retro Computing | Apr 07 14:37 | |
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| matey | "When I do the restoration I’ll get some shots of the internals. It has a bus architecture with the internal boards all wired in parallel. All terminal features are implemented in discrete logic and LSI devices like UARTs, it has no CPU." | Apr 07 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | DFC taken down by Firefox | Apr 07 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | RIP, was nice knowing you | Apr 07 14:38 |
| bnchs__ | matey: that's the true Tek4014 emulator i think | Apr 07 14:38 |
| matey | yes | Apr 07 14:38 |
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| bnchs__ | even with it drawing slowly because of the tube | Apr 07 14:38 |
| matey | of course | Apr 07 14:39 |
| matey | because the tube isnt doing a raster scan | Apr 07 14:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Firefox killed | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | killall firefox-esr | Apr 07 14:39 |
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| matey | its more like spacewar | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | root @ gulag # killall mozilla | Apr 07 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | -9 even | Apr 07 14:39 |
| matey | "As I understand it there’s not even a discrete CPU as we would think of one, but I’d welcome a complete description of how it works! I believe it has a simple UART-ROM-and-glue-logic state machine." | Apr 07 14:39 |
| matey | https://retrocomputingforum.com/uploads/default/original/1X/fb39d8fc8963d3a2e2867b44725a2d3aeb824826.png | Apr 07 14:41 |
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| techrights-news | Perl Weekly Challenge 159: Farey Sequence and Möbius Number http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/04/perl-weekly-challenge-159-farey-sequence-and-mobius-number.html | Apr 07 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 159: Farey Sequence and Möbius Number | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] | Apr 07 14:41 | |
| bnchs__ | xterm's emulation is quick | Apr 07 14:42 |
| bnchs__ | because it doesn't implement that slowness and shit | Apr 07 14:42 |
| bnchs__ | with the added fact of no anti-aliasing because of how old xterm is | Apr 07 14:42 |
| techrights-news | "I made a thread late last year inquirying about interest in ROCm packaging; in that time I've introduced a few packages amd updated a few existing packages to the latest version." https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/MPOPPUJEEG44ODBW6NRAOCVH6ARRXFV5/ | Apr 07 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fedoraproject.org | Revisiting ROCm packaging - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists | Apr 07 14:43 | |
| matey | cool | Apr 07 14:44 |
| techrights-news | ICBM: 1) be a sociopath. 2) betray colleagues. 3) slander older workers as "dinobabies". 4) be a slave of ICBM "100% of the time". 5) work for the Nazis and lie to the media about it the way IWB did. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/transition-it-management | Apr 07 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 tips for transitioning into an IT management role | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 07 14:45 | |
| matey | if someone asks you what program can take advantage of tek4014 emulation | Apr 07 14:45 |
| matey | apparently gnuplot can do this | Apr 07 14:45 |
| matey | stackoverflow.com/questions/47691348/how-to-determine-graphics-capabilities-of-an-x11-terminal-window The standard xterm program has a Tek4014 emulation for some simple graphics output. This is however not implemented in most (all?) sucessors, like rxvt, gnome-terminal, or kterm. | Apr 07 14:45 |
| techrights-news | Fedora is not "Community", ICBM. Quit pretending. You fool nobody. It used to be a community, but you've killed it, then SUED the volunteers (trying to take away their Web sites). https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-march-2022/ | Apr 07 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Community Blog monthly summary: March 2022 – Fedora Community Blog | Apr 07 14:46 | |
| matey | The command line program graph, from plotutils, and the application gnuplot can be made to use xterm's Tek emulation | Apr 07 14:46 |
| bnchs__ | xterm was orginally written for programs that don't support the X window system | Apr 07 14:46 |
| bnchs__ | and rather draws to a vector terminal | Apr 07 14:47 |
| bnchs__ | and it's probably the most oldest X11 program, 1984 | Apr 07 14:47 |
| techrights-news | Git started in 2005. 9 years later Microsoft made a plot to kill Git, same for Linux. https://opensource.com/article/22/4/our-favorite-git-commands | Apr 07 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Happy anniversary, Git! Here are our favorite Git commands | Opensource.com | Apr 07 14:48 | |
| matey | the man page mentions -t and -tn and what they do | Apr 07 14:49 |
| matey | but i guess it was compiled without support or something | Apr 07 14:49 |
| bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 07 14:50 |
| techrights-news | GitHub Issues is an issue. It's an attack on Git. Microsoft EEE. | Apr 07 14:50 |
| matey | xterm: bad command line option "-t" | Apr 07 14:50 |
| matey | man page says different | Apr 07 14:50 |
| matey | xterm -t -tn tek4014 | Apr 07 14:50 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163454 | Apr 07 14:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 14:51 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-4-22-1.jpg | Apr 07 14:52 |
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| matey | bnchs__ have you tried sixels in xterm? | Apr 07 14:52 |
| matey | LIES LIES LIES man.openbsd.org/xterm The xterm program is a terminal emulator for the X Window System. It provides DEC VT102/VT220 and selected features from higher-level terminals such as VT320/VT420/VT520 (VT xxx ). It also provides Tektronix 4014 emulation for programs that cannot use the window system directly. | Apr 07 14:53 |
| matey | maybe ill try compiling it from ports sometimes | Apr 07 14:54 |
| activelow | i had an issue with xterm, since when i switched backed to legacy unix pty with my kernel | Apr 07 14:54 |
| activelow | *back | Apr 07 14:55 |
| matey | term supports Sixel graphics, but it isn't enabled by default. You can launch Xterm with Sixel mode enabled using command (from another Terminal): $ xterm -ti vt340 | Apr 07 14:55 |
| matey | that command actually worked | Apr 07 14:56 |
| matey | i dont have a way to test the feature yet | Apr 07 14:56 |
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| activelow | could patch tmux for legacy pty on linux, and with X11 rxvt supports it too; so far didn't hit the limit of max 255 pty with this | Apr 07 15:01 |
| activelow | out of curiosity, anyone knows if tek terminal or dec vt graphics are possible with framebuffer, without any x11? | Apr 07 15:02 |
| bnchs__ | matey: no | Apr 07 15:03 |
| bnchs__ | activelow: well yeah | Apr 07 15:04 |
| bnchs__ | if you can rasterize the vector input to the framebuffer | Apr 07 15:04 |
| matey | not only that | Apr 07 15:05 |
| matey | but if you can make gtk work on the frame buffer, theres no reason you shouldnt be able to run xterm there. | Apr 07 15:05 |
| matey | or is there? | Apr 07 15:06 |
| activelow | the framebuffer may not be the issue, it's the getty already which configures terminal type, and then any other component which had to output bitmap (or vector graphics?) into framebuffer somehow | Apr 07 15:06 |
| *activelow takes a nap | Apr 07 15:06 | |
| matey | it's the getty already which configures terminal type <- what i want to know is how you get gtk applications to display on the framebuffer | Apr 07 15:06 |
| matey | because maybe if you can do that you can get xterm running there | Apr 07 15:07 |
| techrights-news | Games: The Hand of Merlin, RimWorld, Half-Life Alyx: LEVITATION • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163455 | Apr 07 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: The Hand of Merlin, RimWorld, Half-Life Alyx: LEVITATION | Tux Machines | Apr 07 15:08 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163456 | Apr 07 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 15:08 | |
| matey | it seems very odd though | Apr 07 15:10 |
| matey | i mean one is a graphics mode and the other is a complete protocol | Apr 07 15:10 |
| matey | graphics without x11 i understand. gtk apps without x11 not so much. | Apr 07 15:10 |
| techrights-news | "FreeBSD Status Report 4th Quarter 2021, Reproducible clean $HOME in OpenBSD using impermanence, Making RockPro64 a NetBSD Server, helloSystem 0.7.0 is out, lazy approach to FreeBSD dual-booting, going to jail, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/449 | Apr 07 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 449: Reproducible clean $HOME | Apr 07 15:11 | |
| techrights-news | Three Internet Radio Clients for the Debian 11 Terminal • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163457 | Apr 07 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Three Internet Radio Clients for the Debian 11 Terminal | Tux Machines | Apr 07 15:11 | |
| activelow | matey: 1) xterm doesn't require gtk at all 2) for gtk2/3 the DirectFB backend existed (yet it is broken last time i tried with a recent gtk3 version) | Apr 07 15:13 |
| activelow | directfb itself requires some minor patches too, unrelated to GTK | Apr 07 15:13 |
| techrights-news | [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework - Yu Zhao ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220407031525.2368067-1-yuzhao@google.com/ ䷉ Source: google | gulag | Apr 07 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework - Yu Zhao | Apr 07 15:14 | |
| techrights-news | [PULL] drm-misc-next - Maxime Ripard ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220407085940.pnflvjojs4qw4b77@houat/ ䷉ Source: kernel | linux | Apr 07 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PULL] drm-misc-next - Maxime Ripard | Apr 07 15:14 | |
| techrights-news | kernel/git/crng/random.git - Development tree for the kernel CSPRNG ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/crng/random.git/commit/?id=48bff1053c172e6c7f340e506027d118147c8b7f ䷉ Source: git | Apr 07 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/crng/random.git - Development tree for the kernel CSPRNG | Apr 07 15:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> DFC taken down by Firefox | Apr 07 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | It seemed to have something to do with a kernel oops. | Apr 07 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Press F to pay respects. | Apr 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | two irrelevant things like a | Apr 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | pair of balls https://tech.co/news/microsoft-teams-and-firefox-work-together | Apr 07 15:19 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: tech.co | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tech.co/news/microsoft-teams-and-firefox-work-together https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tech.co/news/microsoft-teams-and-firefox-work-together | Apr 07 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.co | Microsoft Teams and Firefox Finally Decide to Play Ball | Apr 07 15:19 | |
| DaemonFC | I was considering trying Fedora Silverblue. I'm not really sure I want to deal with all of that though. | Apr 07 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | You _can_ put RPM Fusion into it, but it sounds like upgrades to a new Fedora distribution will get interesting. | Apr 07 15:20 |
| techrights-news | Foliate is undoubtedly the best eBook viewer for Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163458 | Apr 07 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Foliate is undoubtedly the best eBook viewer for Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 07 15:20 | |
| DaemonFC | You have to remove the RPM Fusion repo and then install the signing key for the new Fedora release RPM Fusion repo, or else rpm-ostree will attempt to layer RPMs from the old release onto the new ostree image, and fail. | Apr 07 15:21 |
| techrights-news | Xubuntu 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details ⚓ https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/04/xubuntu-22-04-lts/ ䷉ Source: DebugPoint | GNU | Linux | Apr 07 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/04/xubuntu-22-04-lts/ ) | Apr 07 15:21 | |
| DaemonFC | It seems like you'd be better off leaving RPM Fusion alone on such a system and just leaning heavily on Flatpaks if the RPM you want to layer is not in Fedora itself. | Apr 07 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not exactly certain who would be using Silverblue. It seems like overly burdensome system administration for questionable benefits. | Apr 07 15:23 |
| techrights-news | "The SOFA (Start Often Finish rArely) attitude is something I’ve often resented in my own self because I wasted—or it felt like waste, at the time—my life up to age 26 or so before I had the toolbox to more intentionally and directedly focus my time." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/sofa | Apr 07 15:23 |
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| lightbringer | irc is down and web is down, apparently | Apr 07 15:49 |
| *Now talking on #techrights | Apr 07 15:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | That time it was the server. | Apr 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, it was a purely network issue | Apr 07 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | upstream at the DC | Apr 07 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm going to have them look at my car again today. | Apr 07 15:55 |
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| DaemonFC | I think, but am not certain, that I have an alternator that's glitching out sometimes. | Apr 07 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it was the network where the server is | Apr 07 15:55 |
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| DaemonFC | The display goes dim, the battery light may come on, and the power steering goes out for a few seconds sometimes, mostly when it's very cold outside, and especially in rain or snow. | Apr 07 15:55 |
| *bnchs__ is now known as bnchs | Apr 07 15:56 | |
| bnchs | reidentified | Apr 07 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then it all comes back up. It's like the alternator just stops working for a few seconds and then it's okay again. | Apr 07 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | The bearings inside it are making a clicking noise. | Apr 07 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Just bad bearings alone probably aren't doing it, but it is the sign of an alternator that's potentially already damaged further. | Apr 07 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Even a total piece of shit car right now is starting at $6,000. | Apr 07 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | So there's some pressure to just keep fixing this thing as long as I can. | Apr 07 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | $6,000 gets you something 15 years old with rust and a bunch of worn out parts. | Apr 07 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | Can you believe that shit? | Apr 07 15:59 |
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| techrights-news | The pandemic shows that the state is already withering away, just not in the cool way Marx and Engels predicted gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/withering.gmi | Apr 07 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | I had someone offer me $4,000 the other day for the Impala. | Apr 07 15:59 |
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| techrights-news | "one thing that annoys me is that it's currently only capable of receiving mail, not sending it. Again, this has its benefits (I can be fairly certain nobody's relaying spam via my server), but it does have an obvious downside - on the off chance that somebody _does_ mail that address I have no easy way to reply." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-27-Email-woes.txt | Apr 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually gone up in value by about $2,000 (double) since 2019! Private party. | Apr 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | This is what I was complaining to mjg59_ about. | Apr 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | These fucking smart cars and fuel mandates. | Apr 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | They're making people desperate. Clinging more tightly even to stuff that's really really old. | Apr 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | The US is going to turn into Cuba with the cars where people just keep fixing old ones as long as they possibly can. | Apr 07 16:01 |
| MinceR | you have Stupid Cars in the USA? | Apr 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Because they can't get a new one because a leftist government took over and mandated all sorts of stupid shit that drove new car prices into orbit. | Apr 07 16:01 |
| MinceR | (daimler's attempt at making a kei car) | Apr 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Oddly, the government is pricing people out of all of the cars with better safety features and gas mileage. | Apr 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | So there's no real improvement at all for most people. | Apr 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Trump's regulations on fuel economy and "safety features", rolling them back that is, made more sense than Biden's regulations. | Apr 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Part of the figures cited under Trump was the fact that new cars with all of the mandates would be so expensive it would smother the market for cars that already achieved better gas mileage and safety standards already due to market forces. | Apr 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | The fuel economy standards Biden wants are not designed to be practical, they're designed to destroy the car market unless you're rich and can just pay the CAFE fine and get a Mercedes V12 with mjg59_ auto-drive. | Apr 07 16:04 |
| MinceR | something similar is happening in the EU | Apr 07 16:04 |
| MinceR | city cars are practically extinct because of environmental regulations | Apr 07 16:05 |
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| MinceR | and the governments are pretending that BEVs are zero emission | Apr 07 16:05 |
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| DaemonFC | The Republican social policies will win and it will be because of Democrats on the economy and environment. | Apr 07 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | omission of power source | Apr 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | These people are so narcissistic that they make speeches about controlling the weather. | Apr 07 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | batteries are omitted, not counted | Apr 07 16:05 |
| MinceR | someone pointed out that some tank would comply with the EU emission regulations because they get to emit more CO2 if they're massive enough | Apr 07 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Battery cars are dumb. Really dumb. | Apr 07 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | There's no infrastructure for them and they subsist on direct subsidies and tax evasion. | Apr 07 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | The infrastructure problem could be solved. | Apr 07 16:07 |
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| DaemonFC | But if you ever stop subsidizing them then the market will crater. | Apr 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty much all the problems with the economy go to the government trying to control it yet putting in people who are criminals lining their own pockets, and folks who additionally have no idea what they're doing. | Apr 07 16:08 |
| MinceR | the government _is_ a bunch of criminals | Apr 07 16:08 |
| *Disconnected (). | Apr 07 16:12 | |
| lightbringer | and there it goes again | Apr 07 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 07 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's predicted | Apr 07 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they work on something | Apr 07 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll settle down soon, but not sure when | Apr 07 16:14 |
| *Now talking on #techrights | Apr 07 16:21 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | it is a much bigger pronblem if it happens when cron jobs go off at 2am | Apr 07 16:22 |
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| schestowitz-TR | or when I'm asleep | Apr 07 16:23 |
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| bnchs__ | schestowitz, do you keep restarting the IRC server? | Apr 07 16:25 |
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| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: no | Apr 07 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a network issue at the datacentre | Apr 07 16:25 |
| *bnchs__ is now known as bnchs | Apr 07 16:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 100% outside my control | Apr 07 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: more details in #boycottnovell channel | Apr 07 16:26 |
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| schestowitz-TR | scrollback | Apr 07 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it causes many other issues | Apr 07 16:27 |
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| bnchs | yeah | Apr 07 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 20 tasks I'm doing right now | Apr 07 16:27 |
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| techrights-news | HEY HI (!!) camera https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/07/ankermake-m5-3d-printer-ai-camera-fast-printing/ | Apr 07 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | AnkerMake M5 3D printer comes with AI camera, prints at up to 300mm/s (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Apr 07 16:30 | |
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| bnchs | haha | Apr 07 16:31 |
| bnchs | 3D printer has AI camera | Apr 07 16:31 |
| bnchs | so kewl | Apr 07 16:31 |
| bnchs | BUY | Apr 07 16:31 |
| techrights-news | Why spent so much money on a PC? At $6500 it's like a car. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/07/arm-systemready-sr-certified-ampere-altra-developer-platform/ | Apr 07 16:32 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft trap. Avoid. https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-umbraco-cms-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts/ | Apr 07 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.how2shout.com | How to install Umbraco CMS on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS - Linux Shout | Apr 07 16:33 | |
| bnchs | wait wtf | Apr 07 16:34 |
| bnchs | cnx-software.com is IPv6 only or something? | Apr 07 16:34 |
| techrights-news | "SystemReady SR certification includes verification testing of Ubuntu Server 20.04.3 ... Fedora Server 35, FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, CentOS stream 9, and Debian 11.2." https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/04/p26514933/adlinks-ampere-altra-developer-platform-with-arm-systemready-certification | Apr 07 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ADLINK's Ampere® Altra® Developer Platform with Arm SystemReady Certification - Benzinga | Apr 07 16:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: they had dns trouble lately | Apr 07 16:35 |
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| bnchs | well my ISP is IPv4-only so it might be a problem | Apr 07 16:36 |
| techrights-news | No, Microsoft (criminals) GitHub page does not impress me. PopOS should shun proprietary software like that. https://www.makeuseof.com/pop-os-release-2204-beta-linux/ | Apr 07 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Pop!_OS Teases Intrepid Linux Users With the 22.04 Beta Release | Apr 07 16:37 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: one day all the internet will be dead | Apr 07 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | or centralised | Apr 07 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | then shut down ;-) | Apr 07 16:38 |
| matey | or not | Apr 07 16:38 |
| bnchs | i don't want it to be dead | Apr 07 16:38 |
| Ariadne | thank u noction | Apr 07 16:38 |
| matey | roy: nihilism isnt the real answer to tech problems | Apr 07 16:38 |
| Ariadne | the answer to this problem is to get isps to properly configure noction | Apr 07 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never heard of noction | Apr 07 16:39 |
| bnchs | wtf is noction | Apr 07 16:39 |
| matey | /me has never heard of noction, but maybe its cool | Apr 07 16:39 |
| bnchs | now how do you think i'm gonna pitch this to my ISP | Apr 07 16:39 |
| matey | its probably dns-related or something | Apr 07 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | network auction :-) | Apr 07 16:40 |
| Ariadne | it's a "network optimizer" that pings IP addresses and optimizes which routes get selected for a given IP | Apr 07 16:40 |
| matey | or something to do with admin acess | Apr 07 16:40 |
| Ariadne | but sometimes people configure it incorrectly | Apr 07 16:40 |
| Ariadne | and leak their "optimizations" | Apr 07 16:40 |
| Ariadne | to the public bgp table | Apr 07 16:40 |
| matey | it's a "network optimizer" that pings IP addresses and optimizes which routes get selected for a given IP <- any privacy / censorship risks? | Apr 07 16:40 |
| matey | to the public bgp table <- / ddos risks? | Apr 07 16:40 |
| bnchs | if i see a buzzword like AI i'm gonna dump it | Apr 07 16:40 |
| Ariadne | no to the first, yes to the second | Apr 07 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: logging-wise, one irc user is always there, on the local network | Apr 07 16:40 |
| Ariadne | i don't recommend using noction | Apr 07 16:41 |
| Ariadne | it is crap | Apr 07 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I can get any missing bits seamed up later :-) | Apr 07 16:41 |
| bnchs | wow ironic it's slow as fuck | Apr 07 16:41 |
| matey | <Ariadne> i don't recommend using noction <Ariadne> it is crap <- is is the reason the network is fuckity today? | Apr 07 16:41 |
| matey | <Ariadne> thank u noction | Apr 07 16:41 |
| Ariadne | yes | Apr 07 16:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 07 16:41 |
| matey | there you go | Apr 07 16:41 |
| Ariadne | because somebody at some shithole isp | Apr 07 16:41 |
| Ariadne | is using noction | Apr 07 16:41 |
| matey | /me doesnt recommend noction either | Apr 07 16:42 |
| bnchs | well not me | Apr 07 16:42 |
| Ariadne | and its leaking duplicate routes | Apr 07 16:42 |
| matey | because its obnoctious | Apr 07 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you only had one job(TM)" | Apr 07 16:42 |
| matey | and its leaking duplicate routes <- maybe theyre running gnome :) | Apr 07 16:42 |
| matey | gnoction | Apr 07 16:42 |
| matey | its like gnoction but even worse | Apr 07 16:43 |
| matey | and it needs half your ram | Apr 07 16:43 |
| matey | gnoction <- its like gnoction but even worse <- only gnome could make a program thats even worse than itself | Apr 07 16:43 |
| bnchs | gnoction | Apr 07 16:43 |
| bnchs | uses dbus | Apr 07 16:43 |
| matey | yes! | Apr 07 16:43 |
| bnchs | leaks half your memory | Apr 07 16:43 |
| matey | it uses it twice | Apr 07 16:43 |
| bnchs | then eventually crashes after leaking the entire kernel memory | Apr 07 16:44 |
| matey | its supposed to use dbus only once-- theyre working on this :) | Apr 07 16:44 |
| matey | systemd-noctiond | Apr 07 16:44 |
| Ariadne | noction is a slimey company too | Apr 07 16:44 |
| matey | slimey companies and shitty projects go hand in hand | Apr 07 16:44 |
| Ariadne | they went and got a bunch of software patents on this | Apr 07 16:44 |
| matey | because how are you going to sell a shitty project without bullshitting people and doubling down? | Apr 07 16:44 |
| matey | and if youre willing to lie all the time, why go to the trouble of making a GOOD project? lying is easier. | Apr 07 16:45 |
| Ariadne | well | Apr 07 16:45 |
| bnchs | systemd-noctiond is also worse | Apr 07 16:45 |
| matey | /me apparently spells product with a j now, but thats good | Apr 07 16:46 |
| Ariadne | outbound route optimization isn't bullshit, but you can get good results by doing it by hand | Apr 07 16:46 |
| Ariadne | no need to spend 5 grand on a noction license | Apr 07 16:46 |
| bnchs | lol they got software patents on network optimization | Apr 07 16:46 |
| matey | <bnchs> systemd-noctiond is also worse <- gnome requires it now for network-manager | Apr 07 16:46 |
| bnchs | i hope they eat shit | Apr 07 16:46 |
| matey | <Ariadne> no need to spend 5 grand <- woof | Apr 07 16:46 |
| bnchs | patents are what's stopping technology from progressing | Apr 07 16:46 |
| bnchs | because patents are made by people who value money more | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | bnchs: they tried to sue internap (which has been selling route-optimized ip transit for 20 years) for violating their patents | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | its literally | Apr 07 16:47 |
| matey | <bnchs> patents are what's stopping technology from progressing <- in general. here its just stopping competitors from making an equally shitty product | Apr 07 16:47 |
| matey | plus the other thing which is actually bad. | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | they ping some set of IPs / websites | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | and weight the transit providers accordingly | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | to reduce ping time | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | thats all it is | Apr 07 16:47 |
| matey | maybe theyll piss off anonymous or something | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | problem is, they inject weighted routes | Apr 07 16:47 |
| Ariadne | and those routes leak | Apr 07 16:48 |
| Ariadne | if you don't set up your filters properly | Apr 07 16:48 |
| bnchs | software patents shouldn't even be a thing | Apr 07 16:48 |
| bnchs | because they're holding back the advancement | Apr 07 16:48 |
| matey | <bnchs> software patents shouldn't even be a thing <- make the world a better place | Apr 07 16:48 |
| bnchs | they're a tool for greedy companies to ruin technology | Apr 07 16:49 |
| techrights-news | Dash to Panel Adds GNOME 42 Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163459 | Apr 07 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dash to Panel Adds GNOME 42 Support | Tux Machines | Apr 07 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163460 | Apr 07 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 16:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Can I Save Money with a Used Alternator? | Apr 07 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | This is one of the most inadvisable things to do." | Apr 07 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Apr 07 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, let's pull a used wear item that probably has similar mileage to the one we took off. | Apr 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Thu 15:08:20 │ 〖MinceR〗 │ the government _is_ a bunch of criminals | Apr 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Thu 15:08:29 │ 〖DaemonFC〗 │ That's generally what's wrong with Chicago. | Apr 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Thu 15:09:40 │ 〖DaemonFC〗 │ Democrats are criminals at best and very dimwitted criminals at their worst. | Apr 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Thu 15:09:40 │ 〖DaemonFC〗 │ And dimwitted criminals are perhaps more dangerous because they still wield power. | Apr 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | these bits only went missing from the logger | Apr 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | so reproduced above | Apr 07 16:57 |
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| matey | "This is one of the most inadvisable things to do" i wouldnt put one in a plane, for example | Apr 07 16:59 |
| matey | /me was in a plane when the alternator (magneto) went out | Apr 07 16:59 |
| matey | but thats why they have two of them | Apr 07 16:59 |
| matey | /me blames charles xavier | Apr 07 17:00 |
| matey | of course these days magneto is already out, so | Apr 07 17:01 |
| techrights-news | Gulag: we give the NSA back doors. But YOUR "apps" are not secure. https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-play-store-block-android-apps-dont-update/ | Apr 07 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Google Play Store to Block Android Apps that Don't Update - Make Tech Easier | Apr 07 17:04 | |
| techrights-news | KDE neon 20220407 is out. Great distro! https://neon.kde.org/ | Apr 07 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neon | Apr 07 17:04 | |
| bnchs | social control media should just be over | Apr 07 17:06 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows Update is also technically a botnet, but this one won't be removed https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/us-disrupts-russian-botnet.html | Apr 07 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Disrupts Russian Botnet - Schneier on Security | Apr 07 17:06 | |
| bnchs | just get rid of all social media | Apr 07 17:06 |
| bnchs | even alternatives | Apr 07 17:06 |
| bnchs | and go back | Apr 07 17:06 |
| techrights-news | Elive 3.8.27 is out | Apr 07 17:07 |
| techrights-news | "A CVSS v3 base score of 7.5 has been calculated;" Proprietary software, so Microsoft-funded media won't make fuss over it. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-278-01 | Apr 07 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric GOT and Tension Controller (Update A) | CISA | Apr 07 17:08 | |
| techrights-news | "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" om this proprietary software https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-097-02 "Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities could cause the affect device to become unresponsive, resulting in a denial-of-service condition and requiring a manual reboot." | Apr 07 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | ABB SPIET800 and PNI800 | CISA | Apr 07 17:09 | |
| matey | <bnchs> just get rid of all social media <- websites and gemini are better | Apr 07 17:10 |
| matey | theyre just better in every fucking way | Apr 07 17:10 |
| matey | in theory social media has advantages... in practice social media is a fucking dumpster fire | Apr 07 17:11 |
| matey | they keep trying to reform it, making it a temporarily reformed dumpster fire | Apr 07 17:11 |
| matey | then it just becomes a federated dumpster fire, its incredible | Apr 07 17:11 |
| bnchs | federation is also shit | Apr 07 17:12 |
| matey | yes | Apr 07 17:12 |
| bnchs | federated social media can go away with social media | Apr 07 17:13 |
| matey | yes | Apr 07 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can censor. check. | Apr 07 17:13 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it shuts down. check. | Apr 07 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fediverse I lost 3 accounts this way | Apr 07 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | in diapora one | Apr 07 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now they say I need to wait months for the account to be merely migrated | Apr 07 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wherever it migrates to will also shut down some day, maybe in a few years | Apr 07 17:14 |
| bnchs | the entire concept of a social media is flawed | Apr 07 17:14 |
| matey | or right after migration! | Apr 07 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so both identica and mastodon have this issue | Apr 07 17:14 |
| matey | or possibly while migration is pending | Apr 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | (or pleroma etc.) | Apr 07 17:15 |
| matey | idontica | Apr 07 17:15 |
| matey | ididntica | Apr 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | rss works better | Apr 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had it right 20 years ago | Apr 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz | https://anildash.com/2012/12/13/the_web_we_lost/ | Apr 07 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anildash.com | The Web We Lost | Apr 07 17:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://gizmodo.com/the-web-we-lost-5968475 | Apr 07 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | The Web We Lost | Apr 07 17:16 | |
| matey | social media is the inbred cousin of rss that keeps getting busted for a dui | Apr 07 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Anil Dash on The Web We Lost - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9KKMnoTTHJk ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia ] | Apr 07 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Anil Dash on The Web We Lost - Invidious | Apr 07 17:16 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: social control media= rss + censorship | Apr 07 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | + meddling, plus downtimes etc. | Apr 07 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | like people who outsourced to feedburner | Apr 07 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | than gulag | Apr 07 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | then shut down | Apr 07 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | lost all their followers | Apr 07 17:17 |
| matey | /me thought friendfeed was cool | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | which they took 10+ years to gain | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | wrote many good things, got subscribed | Apr 07 17:18 |
| matey | of course it didnt last | Apr 07 17:18 |
| matey | you always end up being a product of these things | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | bam. goodbye. gulag has other plans. | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag has so much power over a lot of blog | Apr 07 17:18 |
| matey | gulag: was it good for you? | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | to spy | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | to censor | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not it shuts it all down | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | billion subscriptions canceled | Apr 07 17:18 |
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| matey | they didnt even violate the coc! | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the flip of a switch on feedburner servers | Apr 07 17:18 |
| matey | and they got cancelled anyway | Apr 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | i always warned people about outsourcing rss feed | Apr 07 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | for some "feeeechures" | Apr 07 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I WANT TO SPY ON MY SUBS!!! I NEED TO UNDERSTAND!!" | Apr 07 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "yes, well, that didn't work out well at the end, did it?" | Apr 07 17:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/update-your-nixcraft-rss-feed/ | Apr 07 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/update-your-nixcraft-rss-feed/ ) | Apr 07 17:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | nixCraft content is available using RSS format. The blog is hosted at www.cyberciti.biz, but an RSS feed is available from the www.cyberciti.com domain. Many of you consume nixCraft content via RSS/ATOM feed, creating load on the origin server. Not to mention Cloudflare web application firewall (WAF/CDN) aggressively blocks RSS/ATOM feed sometimes. Hence, RSS/ATOM feed is available from separate domains and servers with aggressive caching policy. I | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | am tight on resources, plus it makes it easier to manage static and dynamic content. | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | I already placed HTTP/301 in place, but I cannot control feedburner.com or google.com hosted content. Therefore I request everyone to update their RSS feed URL. | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | the key aprt: | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | "The lesson is evident here, not to trust 3rd party with your RSS feed or content. I will never forgive Google for erasing Google Reader RSS/Atom feed aggregator. I lost many readers because of that move." | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | https://support.google.com/feedburner/answer/10483501 | Apr 07 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.google.com | Upcoming changes to FeedBurner in July 2021 - FeedBurner Help | Apr 07 17:20 | |
| schestowitz | "Starting in July, we are transitioning FeedBurner onto a more stable, modern infrastructure. This will keep the product up and running for all users, but it also means that we will be turning down most non-core feed management features, including email subscriptions, at that time. | Apr 07 17:20 |
| schestowitz | their twitter account is not even responding | Apr 07 17:21 |
| schestowitz | they judt don't care | Apr 07 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "transitioning FeedBurner onto a more stable, modern infrastructure" | Apr 07 17:21 |
| schestowitz | nice way to say | Apr 07 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "we're shutting it down, SUCKERS!" | Apr 07 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "more stable, modern infrastructure"=we kill it off | Apr 07 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | souble speak | Apr 07 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | how to get promoted at gulag | Apr 07 17:22 |
| matey | when i asked them to delete my github account i got a letter saying about how they care about open source and are going to stay "committed to developers" | Apr 07 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | show your lying skills | Apr 07 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you're hired madam" | Apr 07 17:22 |
| matey | they only said "developers" once | Apr 07 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you're promoted, sir" | Apr 07 17:22 |
| matey | they didnt say "Developers, developers, developers, developers | Apr 07 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I think I'll just bite the bullet and replace the alternator. I'm not entirely sure that's what it is. | Apr 07 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | "content creators" | Apr 07 17:23 |
| matey | but i heard it in steve ballmers voice anyway | Apr 07 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | github has lots of user-generated "stuff" | Apr 07 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Tests good, but fails intermittently while driving seems to be likely here. | Apr 07 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 'code' | Apr 07 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "content| | Apr 07 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | livestock | Apr 07 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them do this for quite a while before they die. | Apr 07 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I may take a short nap before heading out there. :P | Apr 07 17:24 |
| matey | /me still thinks rms and roy are making a lot of nothing about "content" | Apr 07 17:24 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Nitrux 20220402 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LVINy_2RENg | Apr 07 17:26 |
| matey | the _________ of a letter <- as far as i know there is only one word that works here | Apr 07 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2603:c022:c001:2c00:e6fd:f72e:f063:4f2b: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LVINy_2RENg ) | Apr 07 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi OS Is Now Powered by Linux 5.15 LTS, Gets Experimental Wayland Backend • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163461 | Apr 07 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi OS Is Now Powered by Linux 5.15 LTS, Gets Experimental Wayland Backend | Tux Machines | Apr 07 17:26 | |
| matey | the table of ________ | Apr 07 17:26 |
| matey | if content is awful, index must be worse | Apr 07 17:26 |
| matey | it reduces all contents to a mere number! | Apr 07 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Mechanical problems are always easier to diagnose than electrical problems. | Apr 07 17:26 |
| matey | maybe youre thinking "body" of a letter but thats only (the largest) part of it | Apr 07 17:26 |
| matey | its not the same | Apr 07 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Usually with a mechanical part, it's either broken or it isn't. You can move it around and see if it makes weird noises or has too much slack or bounces around more than it should. | Apr 07 17:26 |
| matey | electrical problems would be easier to detect if using an x-ray was a standard method of diagnosis | Apr 07 17:27 |
| matey | though x-ray equipment is just a little bit hazardous | Apr 07 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Electrical problems can be batteries, computer modules, sensors, the alternator, pulleys, the crankshaft..... The alternator alone is pretty hard to diagnose unless it's flaking out so badly that it isn't performing as it should exactly when you do the test. | Apr 07 17:28 |
| matey | but say you had a broken wire or something-- it should show up on x-ray | Apr 07 17:28 |
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| matey | and they have xray equipment that goes straight to a monitor screen now | Apr 07 17:28 |
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| matey | but obviously its fucking expensive | Apr 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | My cousins took their truck to some hillbilly that "fixed" wiring problem with stereo wiring. :) | Apr 07 17:28 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> like 'code' <- wait, is "code" now a bad word too? | Apr 07 17:29 |
| techrights-news | Go away, criminals https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/xbox-games-studios-talk-up-more-of-their-games-on-steam-deck/ | Apr 07 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xbox Games Studios talk up more of their games on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 07 17:29 | |
| matey | why is it in quotes | Apr 07 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Paid him like almost $2,000. Then the thing worked for a while and all the dashboard warning lights came on. | Apr 07 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: misunderstanding | Apr 07 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | Had to go to the dealer at that point. *rolls eyes* | Apr 07 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | scare quotes american v british | Apr 07 17:30 |
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| matey | right, why any quotes | Apr 07 17:30 |
| matey | its code, right | Apr 07 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | The entire English language is BAD. DELETE DELETE DELEEEETE!!!! | Apr 07 17:31 |
| matey | /me is going to create his own english, with blackjack and hookers | Apr 07 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Hey mjg59_, can you pass me the deny crayon? | Apr 07 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Deny is the color of my soul. | Apr 07 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Remember they called Johnny Cash the Man in Deny. | Apr 07 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Or that famous song by the Rolling Stones, Paint It Deny. | Apr 07 17:32 |
| matey | the deny keys | Apr 07 17:32 |
| matey | the allow stripes | Apr 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | How do you take your coffee? | Apr 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | Just deny, thank you! | Apr 07 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | The most famous space phenomenon is, of course, the Deny Hole. | Apr 07 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | The ironic name for something that even pulls in light itself. | Apr 07 17:33 |
| matey | then her face at first just at first just ghostly, turned an allower shade of pale | Apr 07 17:33 |
| matey | fucking xterm | Apr 07 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Many teenagers suffer from acne, and it can cause denyheads. | Apr 07 17:34 |
| matey | im redoing, fuck it well do it live | Apr 07 17:34 |
| matey | then her face at first just ghostly, turned an allower shade of pale | Apr 07 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Did you ever hear of the famous pirate Denybeard? | Apr 07 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | What's my favorite pie? Denyberry of course. | Apr 07 17:35 |
| matey | baa baa deny sheep have you any wool | Apr 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Grandmother always let them cool in the windows. | Apr 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes it would attract denybirds. | Apr 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | My dad always said he watched fire ant colonies attack deny ants. | Apr 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | The parking lot here sucks. It needs a fresh coat of denytop. | Apr 07 17:37 |
| matey | denybird was a song on the beatles allow album | Apr 07 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Russians are attacking by crossing the Deny Sea. | Apr 07 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | One of the major tributaries of the Deny Sea is the Denyper River. | Apr 07 17:39 |
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| matey | til: yoko ono (knew this) pattie harrison and maureen starkey were all guests on the allow album | Apr 07 17:41 |
| matey | no mention of linda | Apr 07 17:41 |
| matey | (i dont know if they were even together at the time, i only presume so) | Apr 07 17:41 |
| techrights-news | Post re UK COVID-19 updated with this evening's figures: We’re still at record highs for the season, despite testing rates falling. That cannot hide deaths and escalations. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ | Apr 07 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has “DATA ISSUE” and “2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022″ | Apr 07 17:42 | |
| matey | maybe she took pictures | Apr 07 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | linda the sister? | Apr 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, they had a nice exhibit in liverpool museum when we last went | Apr 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | by yoko | Apr 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | she took up almost a whole floor | Apr 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | with her weird art and memories of the husband | Apr 07 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it was a very good exhibition nonetheless | Apr 07 17:44 |
| matey | linda the sister? <- linda mccartney | Apr 07 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the vegetarian tycoon | Apr 07 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I knew about her also | Apr 07 17:46 |
| matey | but as i said i dont know if they were even together when the allow album was made | Apr 07 17:46 |
| matey | it could have been before that | Apr 07 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sister made the beatles story museum iirc | Apr 07 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | for lennon | Apr 07 17:46 |
| matey | i didnt know john had a sister named linda | Apr 07 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure it's linda | Apr 07 17:47 |
| matey | im pretty sure lennon was on the spectrum | Apr 07 17:47 |
| matey | watching him in the studio, the way he looks at everything | Apr 07 17:47 |
| matey | he got back into recording because of the b52s | Apr 07 17:48 |
| matey | george is actually my favourite | Apr 07 17:48 |
| matey | i like all of them | Apr 07 17:48 |
| matey | i started listening to the beatles when i was 7 but i had already liked some of john lennons stuff when i was 4, i didnt know it was his | Apr 07 17:49 |
| matey | many years later i was like "that was john lennon? fuck" | Apr 07 17:49 |
| matey | watching the wheels in particular | Apr 07 17:50 |
| matey | i was a phil collins fan when i was 6, i still am | Apr 07 17:50 |
| matey | genesis too | Apr 07 17:51 |
| matey | named by the infamous jonathan king | Apr 07 17:52 |
| matey | and van morrison who i never knew was from belfast | Apr 07 17:53 |
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| matey | and elo but i didnt even know jeff lynne was british | Apr 07 17:54 |
| matey | i actually went to elo in utero | Apr 07 17:55 |
| matey | so ive been a fan since birth | Apr 07 17:55 |
| matey | or even before | Apr 07 17:55 |
| techrights-news | The EPO’s Staff Union Calls for Continued Industrial Actions as Some Media Belatedly Catches Up With EPO Strikes | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/media-catching-up-with-strikes/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/media-catching-up-with-strikes/ | Apr 07 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Staff Union Calls for Continued Industrial Actions as Some Media Belatedly Catches Up With EPO Strikes | Techrights | Apr 07 17:58 | |
| techrights-news | [Meme] The Hard-Working Madame Simon | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/arrogance-of-madame-simon/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/arrogance-of-madame-simon/ | Apr 07 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Hard-Working Madame Simon | Techrights | Apr 07 18:04 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://t.me/novaya_europe/43 | Apr 07 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @novaya_europe | Apr 07 18:43 | |
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| techrights-news | Are you more worried about money going to Putin than to KSA? Also, why is this in Planet Ubuntu today? http://blog.markvdb.be/2022/04/how-much-does-my-flight-sponsor-vladimir.html | Apr 07 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.markvdb.be | Mark Van den Borre: How much does my flight sponsor Vladimir? | Apr 07 18:53 | |
| techrights-news | User beware: OSI is promoting Microsoft proprietary software in exchange for bribes https://opensource.org/blog/modified-agplv3-removes-freedoms-adds-legal-headaches | Apr 07 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Modified AGPLv3 removes freedoms, adds legal headaches | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source... | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| techrights-news | ARPCHAT: Communicate using ARP Protocol inside Isolated Network • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163462 | Apr 07 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ARPCHAT: Communicate using ARP Protocol inside Isolated Network | Tux Machines | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu: Canonical, System 76, and Xubuntu • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163463 | Apr 07 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Canonical, System 76, and Xubuntu | Tux Machines | Apr 07 18:59 | |
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| techrights-news | OSI does not warn people about Microsoft | Apr 07 19:00 |
| techrights-news | Documenting Drugs: The Artful Intoxications of Stanisław Ignacy Witkiewicz – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/documenting-drugs/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreview | Apr 07 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Documenting Drugs: The Artful Intoxications of Stanisław Ignacy Witkiewicz – The Public Domain Review | Apr 07 19:02 | |
| node | boycot microsoft | Apr 07 19:04 |
| techrights-news | The vanity of unqualified EPO management (hauled from a trademark institution for the 'skill' of knowing a mischievous colleague) is only going to motivate more EPO staff to participate in future strikes http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/arrogance-of-madame-simon/ | Apr 07 19:05 |
| techrights-news | Things are heating up at the EPO; management is unwilling to address key issues as the conflict grows and even some media is willing to mention (at long last) what truly goes on http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/media-catching-up-with-strikes/ | Apr 07 19:05 |
| techrights-news | Stacked by Microsoft, preaching/talking about fake security while failing to name the predominant culprit: Microsoft Windows https://www.fosslife.org/political-threat-ransomware-attacks see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/ | Apr 07 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | The Political Threat of Ransomware Attacks | Apr 07 19:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric “Ransomware Task Force” | Techrights | Apr 07 19:12 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163464 | Apr 07 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 19:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ni node | Apr 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | *hi | Apr 07 19:14 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-21-memes-10.jpg | Apr 07 19:14 |
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| techrights-news | JS is a security threat: "jQuery versions prior to 3.0.0 are vulnerable to cross-site scripting (XSS) attacks when a cross-domain Ajax request is performed without the dataType option, causing text/javascript responses to be executed." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-097-01 | Apr 07 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Pepperl+Fuchs WirelessHART-Gateway | CISA | Apr 07 19:15 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163465 | Apr 07 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 07 19:16 | |
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| techrights-news | Why is Kopper and Zink important? AKA the future of OpenGL • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163466 | Apr 07 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why is Kopper and Zink important? AKA the future of OpenGL | Tux Machines | Apr 07 19:56 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora Plans to Drop Support for Legacy BIOS Systems • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163467 IBM helps the same sinister agenda as Microsoft and the NSA; it's not about security or modernity as lessens users' control | Apr 07 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Plans to Drop Support for Legacy BIOS Systems | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:00 | |
| techrights-news | Links 07/04/2022: IBM Pushing Restrictive Boot | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/ibm-pushing-restrictive-boot/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/ibm-pushing-restrictive-boot/ | Apr 07 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 07/04/2022: IBM Pushing Restrictive Boot | Techrights | Apr 07 20:09 | |
| techrights-news | There is always something new to learn and do in Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163468 | Apr 07 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | There is always something new to learn and do in Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:10 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163469 | Apr 07 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:10 | |
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| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163470 | Apr 07 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:10 | |
| techrights-news | Hardkernel’s newest ODROID-M1 enters the SBC market https://linuxgizmos.com/hardkernels-newest-odroid-m1-enters-the-sbc-market%EF%BF%BC/ | Apr 07 20:22 |
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| techrights-news | Back doors-approved https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/05/red_hat_gets_rhel_82/ | Apr 07 20:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | RHEL 8.2 certified for Common Criteria security • The Register | Apr 07 20:34 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163471 | Apr 07 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:34 | |
| techrights-news | They need to delete Microsoft GitHub and not outsource their work to criminals https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/07/smartknob-view-is-a-diy-haptic-input-knob-with-wifi-and-bluetooth-connectivity/ | Apr 07 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | SmartKnob View is a DIY haptic input knob with WiFi and Bluetooth connectivity - CNX Software | Apr 07 20:36 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu plocate security review https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2022-04-07-16-13_ubuntu_plocate_security_review.html | Apr 07 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson | Apr 07 20:37 | |
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| techrights-news | Clown computing and buzzwords = security disasters marketed as "Safety" and "Cheaper" https://www.toolbox.com/it-security/cloud-security/news/denonia-malware-cryptomining-cryptojacking/ | Apr 07 20:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.toolbox.com | NO TITLE | Apr 07 20:38 | |
| techrights-news | Clown computing is to a server/computer at home what public, filthy toilet booths are to a lavatory you have at home | Apr 07 20:39 |
| techrights-news | Final changes before releasing EasyOS 3.4.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163326#comment-33300 | Apr 07 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest in EasyOS | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:41 | |
| techrights-news | "A rather slow week again after the 2000 games milestone on the Steam Deck. There are now 2100 games (1997 at the time of writing) working on the Steam Deck – in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/2100-games-on-the-steam-deck-metro-2033/ | Apr 07 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | 2100 Games On The Steam Deck, with Metro 2033 Redux and Resonance of Fate as Verified - Boiling Steam | Apr 07 20:42 | |
| techrights-news | Librera App is the most used Book and EPUB Viewer for Android • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163472 | Apr 07 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Librera App is the most used Book and EPUB Viewer for Android | Tux Machines | Apr 07 20:50 | |
| techrights-news | linuxium.com.au: If things don't change, things will stay as they are. ⚓ https://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2022/04/if-things-dont-change-things-will-stay.html ䷉ Source: linuxiumcomau | Apr 07 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com | linuxium.com.au: If things don't change, things will stay as they are. | Apr 07 20:50 | |
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| techrights-news | ICBMd https://lwn.net/Articles/889610/ | Apr 07 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd discusses its kernel-version needs [LWN.net] | Apr 07 20:52 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▂▅▇▇▅▆▆▅▆▃▅▂▁▂▃▆▃▄▄▆▆▇▁▂▂▇▄▁▂▆▁▄▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 36.43 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▂▁█▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▂▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▄▁▂▁█▂█▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 51.18▕ swarm size (avg): 304.08 ⟲ | Apr 07 20:59 |
| techrights-news | VMware = proprietary software junk. "An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/07/vmware-releases-security-updates | Apr 07 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | VMware Releases Security Updates | CISA | Apr 07 20:59 | |
| techrights-news | LWN’s Kernel Coverage Today • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163473 | Apr 07 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LWN's Kernel Coverage Today | Tux Machines | Apr 07 21:00 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/weekend-random-randomness-4-3-22-20.jpg | Apr 07 21:00 |
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| techrights-news | gzip-1.12 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163474 | Apr 07 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | gzip-1.12 released | Tux Machines | Apr 07 21:02 | |
| *bnchs__ is now known as bnchs | Apr 07 21:02 | |
| techrights-news | Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc ⚓ https://www.khronos.org/blog/your-opencl-developer-experience-just-got-upgraded ䷉ Source: khronos | Apr 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.khronos.org | Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc | Apr 07 21:03 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163475 | Apr 07 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 07 21:06 | |
| techrights-news | Swap your snaps for flatpaks https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JyF17MtQTn0 | Apr 07 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Future of GNOME, Ubuntu 22.04 Beta, swap your snaps for flatpaks - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious | Apr 07 21:09 | |
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| techrights-news | "Livestream for new Linux users to ask their questions regarding making the switch to Linux." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Z3XRVox93-Y | Apr 07 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Switchers Live Stream (Spring 2022) - Invidious | Apr 07 21:12 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Steam Deck Milestone and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163476 | Apr 07 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck Milestone and More | Tux Machines | Apr 07 21:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Docker surprises everyone, new Fedora tools in the works, and an old debate with a fresh take." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8209 | Apr 07 21:13 |
| techrights-news | Webspam/fake review/SPAM/death knell of the WWW https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/ilife-a11-lidar-robot-vacuum/ the Web became flooded with such garbage... | Apr 07 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | ILIFE A11 LiDAR Robot Vacuum Review - Make Tech Easier | Apr 07 21:14 | |
| techrights-news | FreeBSD 13.1-RC2 is out now https://www.freebsd.org/ | Apr 07 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | The FreeBSD Project | Apr 07 21:17 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is also corrupt. But states are prosecuting and arresting Microsoft employees. https://itsubuntu.com/fix-pfn_list_corrupt-in-windows/ | Apr 07 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fix Pfn_list_corrupt In Windows 10 And Windows 11 (BSOD) | Itsubuntu.com | Apr 07 21:21 | |
| techrights-news | Even "Linux" is targeted by the webspam 'industry' https://nerdist.com/article/linux-certification-training-bundle-on-sale/ | Apr 07 21:23 |
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| techrights-news | [PATCH 00/11] Support Pensando Elba SoC - Brad Larson ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220406233648.21644-1-brad@pensando.io/ ䷉ Source: pensando | Apr 07 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 00/11] Support Pensando Elba SoC - Brad Larson | Apr 07 21:24 | |
| techrights-news | BadWolf – SparkyLinux <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://sparkylinux.org/badwolf/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 07 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | BadWolf – SparkyLinux | Apr 07 21:29 | |
| techrights-news | "BadWolf is a minimalist and privacy-oriented WebKitGTK+ browser." https://sparkylinux.org/badwolf/ | Apr 07 21:29 |
| immibis | schestowitz: it's not FUD to point out the loudest people are nazis. Probably if everyone self-hosts everything then the government will implement some kind of reporting requirement. | Apr 07 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | nazis are often undercover/underground | Apr 07 21:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | not "too" loud | Apr 07 21:30 |
| immibis | psydroid2: charging for bandwidth is a way to try to allocate costs according to usage. Sure, one valid allocation is that everyone pays the same. A different, also completely valid allocation is that everyone pays according to how much they use, even if the thing they're using has a fixed cost. | Apr 07 21:30 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: nah they're undercover about being nazis, but they're very loud about free speech etc. | Apr 07 21:31 |
| immibis | like, anyone can use gab, but the only group that really promotes it is nazis | Apr 07 21:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people are vocal about free speech, for the same reason many want women's equality | Apr 07 21:31 |
| immibis | even though it's freer for everyone | Apr 07 21:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe in germany it's different | Apr 07 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | gab is not free speeh | Apr 07 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | gab is nazi site | Apr 07 21:32 |
| immibis | does gab ban you for not being a nazi? | Apr 07 21:32 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2018/11/06/gab-is-pro-nazis/ | Apr 07 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Gab is Not a Site That Tolerates Nazis. It is a Nazi Site That Bans People Who Object to Nazism. It’s a Censorship Site With a Dangerous Agenda. | Apr 07 21:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | don't help the FUD | Apr 07 21:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like the UK gov's FUD that equates privacy with pedophilia | Apr 07 21:33 |
| immibis | well you can substitute any other free speech service that doesn't ban people for not being nazis. The same thing applies to Parler, which I also don't know anything about because I don't frequent Nazi websites | Apr 07 21:33 |
| bnchs | isn't "nazi" just another shit like SJW | Apr 07 21:34 |
| techrights-news | Project Zero: CVE-2021-30737, @xerub's 2021 iOS ASN.1 Vulnerability ⚓ https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/04/cve-2021-30737-xerubs-2021-ios-asn1.html ䷉ Source: google | gulag | projectzero | Apr 07 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-googleprojectzero.blogspot.com | Project Zero: CVE-2021-30737, @xerub's 2021 iOS ASN.1 Vulnerability | Apr 07 21:34 | |
| bnchs | to try to make services look bad | Apr 07 21:34 |
| techrights-news | Advice for data centers looking to change operating systems • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163477 | Apr 07 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advice for data centers looking to change operating systems | Tux Machines | Apr 07 21:34 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163478 | Apr 07 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 21:34 | |
| immibis | bnchs: when you think of a nazi do you think of a personified ball of pure evil? | Apr 07 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | nazis are a problem | Apr 07 21:35 |
| immibis | because they are not like that. they are mostly idiots who believe in racist stuff and other idiotic stuff | Apr 07 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but don't paint everything nazi | Apr 07 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | like hosting at home? NAZI! | Apr 07 21:35 |
| bnchs | ^ | Apr 07 21:36 |
| bnchs | you can associate anything with nazis | Apr 07 21:36 |
| bnchs | then make them look bad | Apr 07 21:36 |
| immibis | it may not be inherently nazi, but in the event that nazis end up doing it and nobody else.... | Apr 07 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | some night clubs in berlin have nazis | Apr 07 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I should stop going to night clubs. Nazi. | Apr 07 21:36 |
| immibis | i cannot believe any nightclub bouncer in berlin would let in any nazi, fwiw. They tend to be very left-wing spaces. | Apr 07 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: not true | Apr 07 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | you think of your homeland | Apr 07 21:37 |
| immibis | anyone who's obviously nazi* | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | in iran people self-host for other reasons | Apr 07 21:37 |
| immibis | obviously or subtly* | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | or host abroad | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | human rights groups | Apr 07 21:37 |
| bnchs | immibis: i really don't give 2 shits who you are | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | in china you might be from tibet | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a nazi | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | twaiwan | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a nazi | Apr 07 21:37 |
| bnchs | as long as you don't put it in everyone's faces | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | muslim in an island in .ph | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | also not a nazi | Apr 07 21:37 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: well the government in my homeland is only going to be caring about who self-hosts in my homeland, and that's going to be a small set of tech enthusiasts (already) and (hypothetically if this takes off) nazis. And the second group is larger. | Apr 07 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | can't comment in .de | Apr 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw | Apr 07 21:38 |
| bnchs | oh my god | Apr 07 21:38 |
| immibis | bnchs: I care if people are nazis. Do you know what happened the last time nazism was allowed to proliferate? | Apr 07 21:38 |
| bnchs | selfhosting? | Apr 07 21:38 |
| immibis | my homeland is not .de | Apr 07 21:38 |
| bnchs | are you a NAZI??? | Apr 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in .de lots of nazi things are illega;l | Apr 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the nazism is illegal | Apr 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | memorabilia, denial, etc. | Apr 07 21:38 |
| immibis | bnchs: Let's suppose a future where 1% of self-hosters are tech enthusiasts, and 99% are nazis evading censorship. | Apr 07 21:38 |
| immibis | What are the bayesian probabilities on that? | Apr 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | prosecute people for THAT, not the hosting | Apr 07 21:38 |
| bnchs | immibis, it's something that i don't give 2 shits | Apr 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | nazis are very few | Apr 07 21:39 |
| bnchs | it's up to whoever who cares about them | Apr 07 21:39 |
| immibis | it's never going to be illegal to self-host, in free countries - that's totally ridiculous. It may, however, become regulated if too many nazis start doing it | Apr 07 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | on an international scale you have more han supremacists than nazis | Apr 07 21:39 |
| bnchs | freedoms has side-effects | Apr 07 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | china has a way of handling them, too | Apr 07 21:39 |
| immibis | all racial supremacists are effectively nazis | Apr 07 21:39 |
| bnchs | "It may, however, become regulated if too many nazis start doing it" | Apr 07 21:39 |
| immibis | bnchs: we call it "this is why we can't have nice things" | Apr 07 21:39 |
| bnchs | you mean if they got a reason | Apr 07 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the suse forums in USENET there used to be a nazi hosting from home | Apr 07 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the only nazi user of linux that I saw online | Apr 07 21:40 |
| bnchs | i don't care if you're a "nazi" | Apr 07 21:40 |
| immibis | nazis as a group generally do not care about self-hosting, or linux | Apr 07 21:40 |
| bnchs | as long as you don't put it in everyone's faces | Apr 07 21:40 |
| immibis | However, it is possible that one of them is a tech expert and realizes "Hey I can evade censorship if I do this, this and this" and publishes a guide for the rest, which is sufficiently easy to follow. | Apr 07 21:40 |
| bnchs | but if they start regulating self-hosting because "nazis" | Apr 07 21:40 |
| immibis | This is the hypothetical future we're talking about, right? | Apr 07 21:40 |
| bnchs | then the people regulating it has obviously been looking for reasons to stop self-hosting | Apr 07 21:40 |
| immibis | bnchs: do you know what happened last time nazism proliferated? | Apr 07 21:41 |
| bnchs | immibis, yeah tell me again | Apr 07 21:41 |
| immibis | bnchs: i am talking about a scenario where it's legitimately 90%+ nazis | Apr 07 21:41 |
| immibis | bnchs: they did a world war and a genocide | Apr 07 21:41 |
| bnchs | you're talking about the nazis who killed people | Apr 07 21:41 |
| immibis | tell me, what did they do before they killed people? | Apr 07 21:41 |
| immibis | we should probably be able to recognize that happening again before it gets to the stage of killing people | Apr 07 21:41 |
| bnchs | ok so tell me what should we do | Apr 07 21:42 |
| immibis | don't give power to nazis | Apr 07 21:42 |
| bnchs | use non-free licenses? | Apr 07 21:42 |
| immibis | bnchs: arrest nazis | Apr 07 21:42 |
| immibis | this has nothing to do with software | Apr 07 21:42 |
| bnchs | immibis, that is out of scope of self-hosting | Apr 07 21:42 |
| immibis | it's only a software-related tangent because of self-hosting | Apr 07 21:42 |
| bnchs | and retarded to drag self-hosting along with it | Apr 07 21:42 |
| immibis | bnchs: what do you imagine when I say "regulated"? Because I am just thinking, that the government might want to know what you're hosting, to make sure it's not nazi shit | Apr 07 21:43 |
| immibis | and like, that's the maximum extent I imagine. | Apr 07 21:43 |
| immibis | in free countries | Apr 07 21:43 |
| bnchs | i'm convinced that you're a troll, but continue | Apr 07 21:43 |
| bnchs | freedoms has it's side effects | Apr 07 21:44 |
| bnchs | and nazis are no exception | Apr 07 21:44 |
| immibis | bnchs: i'm saying the government might have rules about placards you can display because nazis, and you're saying it's retarded to drag placards into it just because nazis have placards | Apr 07 21:44 |
| immibis | like, there is nothing wrong with making it illegal to protest with a "gas the jews!" sign | Apr 07 21:44 |
| bnchs | immibis, and do you like this? | Apr 07 21:45 |
| immibis | have you heard of the paradox of tolerance? | Apr 07 21:45 |
| immibis | bnchs: do I like what? | Apr 07 21:45 |
| bnchs | you like the government regulating what you can host on your servers? | Apr 07 21:45 |
| bnchs | this is another paradox like using pedos, terrorists as a reason | Apr 07 21:46 |
| immibis | bnchs: not | Apr 07 21:46 |
| bnchs | except that this is nazis now | Apr 07 21:46 |
| immibis | bnchs: no, but it's better than allowing nazism to proliferate | Apr 07 21:46 |
| immibis | bnchs: you just haven't encountered the nazi problem yet. When you realize the scope of it, you will agree that it's necessary to prevent it. | Apr 07 21:46 |
| bnchs | they'll just bypass it | Apr 07 21:47 |
| bnchs | by hosting out of the country with the regulations | Apr 07 21:47 |
| immibis | so, not self-hosting? | Apr 07 21:47 |
| bnchs | and it only hurt the people who care about self-hosting | Apr 07 21:47 |
| immibis | bnchs: do you like that it's illegal to drive without a licence? | Apr 07 21:48 |
| *psydroid2 miporse age tu iran ham mardome nazi vojud daran | Apr 07 21:48 | |
| bnchs | you're comparing cars to servers now? | Apr 07 21:48 |
| bnchs | a car can crash and kill people | Apr 07 21:48 |
| immibis | bnchs: nazis also kill people. or they did last time. | Apr 07 21:48 |
| psydroid2 | I'm not really aware of the extent of nazism over here | Apr 07 21:48 |
| bnchs | some millions of bytes can't kill people | Apr 07 21:48 |
| psydroid2 | nor in germany | Apr 07 21:49 |
| SomeH4x0r | can WarGames (1986) happen irl? | Apr 07 21:49 |
| immibis | bnchs: is it okay to convince people that studies show humans are better drivers when drunk? | Apr 07 21:49 |
| SomeH4x0r | nuclear missile system glitch | Apr 07 21:49 |
| immibis | psydroid2: well where is here? | Apr 07 21:49 |
| psydroid2 | although I've heard of some things related to AfD | Apr 07 21:49 |
| bnchs | immibis, holy shit STRAWMAN | Apr 07 21:49 |
| psydroid2 | immibis, dein Nachbarland im Westen | Apr 07 21:49 |
| bnchs | i'm getting real sick of this shit | Apr 07 21:49 |
| psydroid2 | Nordwesten* | Apr 07 21:49 |
| bnchs | trolls in my chat | Apr 07 21:50 |
| psydroid2 | immibis, the Netherlands | Apr 07 21:50 |
| immibis | bnchs: you are clearly making connections that do not exist. This is a nested, recursive question. Would that thing be okay or not? | Apr 07 21:51 |
| bnchs | no it's not okay to convince people that humans are better driving when drunk | Apr 07 21:51 |
| immibis | bnchs: should people suffer legal consequences for doing so? | Apr 07 21:52 |
| bnchs | but you have to admit, that nazis will always find a way to do shit | Apr 07 21:52 |
| immibis | psydroid2: does the netherlands have any major political parties that want to close the borders, make immigrants fuck off, demolish welfare programs and privatize government enterprises? | Apr 07 21:52 |
| bnchs | immibis, driving and drinking is common sense | Apr 07 21:52 |
| bnchs | now lets go back to the topic at hand | Apr 07 21:52 |
| bnchs | and not attack the strawman | Apr 07 21:53 |
| psydroid2 | immibis, PVV and FvD tick off some of those boxes | Apr 07 21:53 |
| psydroid2 | let me see how many seats they have in parliament | Apr 07 21:53 |
| immibis | psydroid2: i'm going to assume they are far-right parties i.e. proto-nazis | Apr 07 21:53 |
| immibis | bnchs: should people suffer legal consequences for doing that convincing? | Apr 07 21:53 |
| bnchs | you don't have to treat people like they're children | Apr 07 21:54 |
| bnchs | they will either brush it off as dumb bullshit | Apr 07 21:54 |
| bnchs | or argue endlessly | Apr 07 21:54 |
| immibis | bnchs: should people suffer legal consequences for doing that convincing? | Apr 07 21:55 |
| psydroid2 | immibis, 17 and 5 respectively out of 150 seats | Apr 07 21:55 |
| psydroid2 | yes, that assumption is correct | Apr 07 21:55 |
| immibis | bit lower percentage than germany | Apr 07 21:55 |
| kingoffrance | the answer to should they suffer legal consequences, is did the prosecutor/state follow "the law" i.e. get a warrant | Apr 07 21:55 |
| bnchs | immibis, thats a loaded question | Apr 07 21:55 |
| kingoffrance | self-hosting is really irrelevant here | Apr 07 21:55 |
| immibis | bnchs: no, it's not loaded | Apr 07 21:55 |
| bnchs | if i answer yes, you'll drag it to the nazis bullshit | Apr 07 21:55 |
| bnchs | if i answer no, you'll say that i like endangering people | Apr 07 21:56 |
| immibis | that's not a loaded question, that's just a step in the way to proving you wrong | Apr 07 21:56 |
| bnchs | <kingoffrance> self-hosting is really irrelevant here | Apr 07 21:56 |
| bnchs | self-hosting is irrelevant | Apr 07 21:56 |
| bnchs | in this topic, because nazis will always find a way | Apr 07 21:56 |
| bnchs | you can outlaw paper because they can just print nazi propoganda on it | Apr 07 21:56 |
| immibis | Alice: "The water is green because it reflects the sky." Bob: "Is the sky green?" Alice: "That's a loaded question. If I say yes you'll say that I'm a moron. If I say no you'll lead it to the water not being green because it reflects the sky." | Apr 07 21:56 |
| immibis | bnchs: they won't outlaw paper and they won't outlaw self-hosting. They may outlaw distributing certain messages with paper. | Apr 07 21:57 |
| bnchs | immibis, how do they plan doing that | Apr 07 21:57 |
| immibis | literally nobody wants to outlaw self-hosting except the tech megacorps probably | Apr 07 21:57 |
| bnchs | now tell me | Apr 07 21:57 |
| bnchs | they'll either put tracking bullshit in printer | Apr 07 21:57 |
| immibis | bnchs: Well if you get caught distributing paper saying "HERE'S WHY WE SHOULD GAS THE JEWS" you get arrested | Apr 07 21:57 |
| bnchs | immibis, so basically let's apply this to self-hosting | Apr 07 21:58 |
| immibis | they don't need tracking bullshit in printers. They just look at who is handing out the papers. | Apr 07 21:58 |
| kingoffrance | well, i think there is little "self hosting" in practice, because most ppl are going to go thru an isp, not some community wifi | Apr 07 21:58 |
| bnchs | if you get caught distributing nazi crap | Apr 07 21:58 |
| bnchs | you get arrested | Apr 07 21:58 |
| immibis | yes | Apr 07 21:58 |
| bnchs | you don't need to drag the entire self-hosting crap to this | Apr 07 21:58 |
| immibis | if you get caught distributing nazi crap on self-hosting you get arrested | Apr 07 21:58 |
| immibis | why are you arguing about this | Apr 07 21:58 |
| MinceR | they should arrest the hungarian government | Apr 07 21:58 |
| bnchs | because you're making it as if self-hosting is bad | Apr 07 21:58 |
| bnchs | because nazis are associated with it | Apr 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | also the terrorussian government | Apr 07 21:59 |
| immibis | bnchs: I have never said self-hosting is bad. I have only said that if a majority of self-hosts are Nazis then the government will try to regulate it so less Nazis can do it | Apr 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | depends on the government | Apr 07 21:59 |
| immibis | MinceR: republicans too while we're at it | Apr 07 21:59 |
| immibis | MinceR: talking about free countries only | Apr 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | some of them like to have as much nazi stuff online as possible | Apr 07 21:59 |
| bnchs | immibis, depends on the goverment doing this | Apr 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | which are the free countries? | Apr 07 21:59 |
| kingoffrance | the imaginary ones | Apr 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | (asking because i'm planning to move) | Apr 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | ah. | Apr 07 21:59 |
| bnchs | the "free" countries | Apr 07 22:00 |
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| kingoffrance | http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=future there's a better one, maybe it is only unabridged | Apr 07 22:00 |
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| immibis | MinceR: the ones where you don't get arrested for saying the government is bad | Apr 07 22:01 |
| kingoffrance | there we go http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=youth when figs are grown on thistles, and pigs betailed with whistles and, wearing silken bristles, live ever in clover, and clows fly over, delivering milk at every door, and Justice never is heard to snore | Apr 07 22:02 |
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| immibis | in russia you will get arrested just for holding a sign, because nobody holds pro-government signs, they don't need to read the sign to know you're anti-government | Apr 07 22:02 |
| kingoffrance | *cows | Apr 07 22:02 |
| bnchs | immibis, when i was in 4chan, there was tons of nazis | Apr 07 22:02 |
| bnchs | but what did i do? | Apr 07 22:02 |
| bnchs | laugh it off | Apr 07 22:02 |
| bnchs | you can't stop people from thinking like nazis | Apr 07 22:02 |
| immibis | bnchs: We know what happens when we do not stop people from thinking like Nazis, because it happened once. | Apr 07 22:03 |
| immibis | Not stopping people from thinking like Nazis is not an option. | Apr 07 22:03 |
| bnchs | immibis, so basically outlaw wrongthink | Apr 07 22:03 |
| bnchs | including intrusive thoughts | Apr 07 22:03 |
| immibis | bnchs: there is a big divide between "outlaw wrongthink" and "outlaw nazism" and it's honestly worrying that you think they're the same | Apr 07 22:03 |
| bnchs | there's a difference between thinking and doing it in action | Apr 07 22:04 |
| bnchs | and you should be glad it's only the former | Apr 07 22:04 |
| immibis | what happened before the nazis seized power and killed everyone? | Apr 07 22:04 |
| bnchs | you won't stop them from thinking like nazis | Apr 07 22:05 |
| kingoffrance | the bankers wrecked the economy? | Apr 07 22:05 |
| kingoffrance | so we should round them up i guess | Apr 07 22:05 |
| kingoffrance | to prevent nazis | Apr 07 22:05 |
| bnchs | unless you're willing to insert Anti-Wrongthink microchip | Apr 07 22:05 |
| bnchs | in their brains | Apr 07 22:05 |
| immibis | bnchs: you are a troll | Apr 07 22:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 07 22:06 |
| bnchs | yeah sure | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is concern trolling here | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a variant of us | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *it | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | mixing self hosting with hate speech | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | self hosting isn't about hiding | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about becoming more robust to de-platforming | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you post illegal things, the authorities can enter the home | Apr 07 22:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the same as Jock Dorkey and pedo guy musk deciding to take away your account because it's bad for business | Apr 07 22:07 |
| bnchs | yes | Apr 07 22:07 |
| bnchs | it's your country's laws that matter | Apr 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | germany has the most anti-nazi laws in the world | Apr 07 22:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | people can do holocaust denial almost everywhere | Apr 07 22:08 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR, i mean they stopped wolfinstein 3D from being published | Apr 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in germany and maybe austria they will get arrested | Apr 07 22:08 |
| bnchs | and even got crazy about sniper elite | Apr 07 22:08 |
| bnchs | a game where you kill nazis | Apr 07 22:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | all this "nazi thing" is cheapening the debate | Apr 07 22:09 |
| bnchs | my point is | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it divides the debate's sides into pro- and anti-nazi | Apr 07 22:09 |
| bnchs | you can't stop people from thinking like nazis | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | even when the subject isn't nazism at all | Apr 07 22:09 |
| bnchs | you can't stop people from thinking bad | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like reading books | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can buy and share physical books | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like self-hosting | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and peer to pee | Apr 07 22:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | you could even -- gasp -- pass one of millions of copies of mein kampf | Apr 07 22:10 |
| bnchs | to be honest, as soon as nazis, pedos, terrorists get involved | Apr 07 22:10 |
| bnchs | the discussion turns into concern trolling | Apr 07 22:10 |
| bnchs | and thats the problem | Apr 07 22:10 |
| kingoffrance | well, it turns into im a gonna need a backdoor into your "encryption" | Apr 07 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is called "moral hysteria" | Apr 07 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: don't forget microphones in the sauna!! | Apr 07 22:11 |
| kingoffrance | im a gonna need a camera in your house, warrants are too hard | Apr 07 22:11 |
| bnchs | concern trolling is one step in the wrong direction in freedoms | Apr 07 22:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and cams too, in germany, where many do it naked | Apr 07 22:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis is not a troll btw | Apr 07 22:13 |
| bnchs | well ok | Apr 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's concerned (I assume male) about a real issue | Apr 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he is misplacing the blame | Apr 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | nazis are dumb | Apr 07 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a reason for this | Apr 07 22:13 |
| immibis | talking about self-hosting isn't pro- or anti-nazi | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have nothing personal to be proud of | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | except race | Apr 07 22:14 |
| immibis | but saying we shouldn't stop nazis is... disturbing | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or supposed "history" and "pride" | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's easy to catch them | Apr 07 22:14 |
| bnchs | but the thing is | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're dumb like islamic terrorists sometimes | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | mayeb dumber | Apr 07 22:14 |
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| bnchs | we can't stop them from thinking like that | Apr 07 22:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | many islamic terrorists are well-educated engineers | Apr 07 22:14 |
| bnchs | and we can't sacrifife freedoms because of them | Apr 07 22:14 |
| bnchs | god damn it i can't english today | Apr 07 22:14 |
| kingoffrance | do not sacrifife kovfefe | Apr 07 22:15 |
| immibis | many far-right people are just underdeveloped left-wing people and can become left if they are led through the maze of information in a way that leads them there | Apr 07 22:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: no worries, it's only irc | Apr 07 22:15 |
| immibis | bnchs: freedom isn't free | Apr 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: so takckle gulagtube then | Apr 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | over a decade ago it had tons of nazis on it | Apr 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | AND recommended | Apr 07 22:16 |
| bnchs | it just reminds me of something | Apr 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | like doomscrolling but with videos | Apr 07 22:16 |
| bnchs | i remember some year on april first | Apr 07 22:16 |
| immibis | and let me remind you bnchs that NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT SELF-HOSTING BEING ILLEGAL EVEN IN THE EXTREME SCENARIO WHERE IT'S 100% NAZIS | Apr 07 22:16 |
| MinceR | yay, different flavor of authoritarianism :> | Apr 07 22:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft bing recommends pedophilia to people | Apr 07 22:16 |
| bnchs | cock.li had a april fools day, where they replaced the main page with a bunch of pictures of hitler and swasitkas | Apr 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: I can assure you few self-hosters are nazis | Apr 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | very few | Apr 07 22:17 |
| bnchs | and a bunch of "gas the jews" here and there | Apr 07 22:17 |
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| bnchs | the creator actually got sued for that | Apr 07 22:17 |
| bnchs | and maybe arrested | Apr 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't throw out the baby with the bathwater | Apr 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's easy to do it | Apr 07 22:17 |
| bnchs | even though it was a joke | Apr 07 22:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to undo | Apr 07 22:17 |
| bnchs | and thats what i'm thinking | Apr 07 22:18 |
| immibis | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development#Stages right-wing useful idiots appear to be stuck in stage 3 | Apr 07 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lawrence Kohlberg's stages of moral development - Wikipedia | Apr 07 22:18 | |
| bnchs | and another example | Apr 07 22:18 |
| bnchs | what if a TTS spouting out nazi stuff | Apr 07 22:18 |
| bnchs | do you arrest the streamer? | Apr 07 22:18 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: there is a *possibility* that some nazis start doing it because it's more censorship resistant and the movement spreads. Of course, they are also stupid, so it's possible they can't figure out how to do it. | Apr 07 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: Saw evidence of that, that's pretty entertaining. | Apr 07 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: they did this on the web in the 90s too | Apr 07 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | "right-wing useful idiots appear to be stuck in stage 3" <- Of that. | Apr 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still remember very well | Apr 07 22:19 |
| bnchs | because with laws like this, you only target people who only done it as a joke | Apr 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not a new issue | Apr 07 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they did not self-host | Apr 07 22:19 |
| immibis | bnchs: you arrest whoever is a Nazi or supports them. A streamer who gets a Nazi TTS message, are they supporting Nazism? No, the person who sent the message is. Unless the streamer approved it. Or deliberately didn't ban the user after the first 50 times. You know that laws aren't computer programs, right? | Apr 07 22:20 |
| bnchs | immibis: ok haven't you read my first example | Apr 07 22:20 |
| bnchs | <bnchs> cock.li had a april fools day, where they replaced the main page with a bunch of pictures of hitler and swasitkas | Apr 07 22:20 |
| bnchs | bnchs> the creator actually got sued for that | Apr 07 22:20 |
| bnchs | <bnchs> and maybe arrested | Apr 07 22:20 |
| kingoffrance | "freedom isn't free" common misconception in america, inalienable rights are free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_control_of_the_military technically, freedom is free. even quotes: One example is People's Republic of China. Mao Zedong stated that "Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party," reflecting the primacy of the Communist Party of China (and communist pa | Apr 07 22:20 |
| kingoffrance | rties in general) as decision-makers in Marxist–Leninist and Maoist theories of democratic centralism "freedom" (natural rights) are free. it is civil rights that require a state/gov/military/etc. | Apr 07 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Civilian control of the military - Wikipedia | Apr 07 22:20 | |
| kingoffrance | that is just to say, "freedom" is misused without explaining "natural inalienable" or "civil" rights | Apr 07 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | or, it is more confusion of tongues over definition of "state" | Apr 07 22:21 |
| immibis | bnchs: So the creator was the one promoting nazism | Apr 07 22:22 |
| kingoffrance | is it "the people" ? free. is it some external apparatus? not free | Apr 07 22:22 |
| bnchs | first of all | Apr 07 22:22 |
| bnchs | it was a joke | Apr 07 22:22 |
| bnchs | and the creator was a bit of a 4chan lurker i would say | Apr 07 22:22 |
| kingoffrance | that was also that prior thing about "rights" not being "taxable" or whatever | Apr 07 22:23 |
| immibis | It's not a joke if you literally just do the thing. | Apr 07 22:23 |
| kingoffrance | so its been ruled on as well | Apr 07 22:23 |
| immibis | There has to be some element of humour for it to be a joke. | Apr 07 22:23 |
| kingoffrance | freedom is free | Apr 07 22:23 |
| immibis | Otherwise you're just doing a thing and then saying it was a joke so you get out of trouble for doing it. | Apr 07 22:23 |
| bnchs | he's not promoting nazism | Apr 07 22:23 |
| immibis | Say I drive without a licence and get pulled over and I say it's funny that I don't have a licence, can you let me go please officer? | Apr 07 22:24 |
| immibis | that doesn't work | Apr 07 22:24 |
| bnchs | he did it as a april fools joke | Apr 07 22:24 |
| immibis | that's not how excuses or jokes work | Apr 07 22:24 |
| bnchs | do you think a serious nazism website would layer thousands of seizure rainbows and swastikas? | Apr 07 22:24 |
| bnchs | and big texts | Apr 07 22:24 |
| bnchs | so you're saying you can't make fun of nazism aswsell | Apr 07 22:25 |
| bnchs | https://cock.li/transparency/april-fools-2016.txt | Apr 07 22:26 |
| bnchs | "For about 3 weeks, I displayed a JOKE on the front page of cock.li that | Apr 07 22:26 |
| bnchs | shook the text on the page and displaying a rotating webm that said | Apr 07 22:26 |
| bnchs | "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG". I did this while the server was hosted in | Apr 07 22:26 |
| bnchs | Germany, so I think this is what this is about. I've never been | Apr 07 22:26 |
| bnchs | unironically racist in the entire history of the site, so this is the only thing I can come up with. | Apr 07 22:26 |
| immibis | for 3 weeks? | Apr 07 22:27 |
| immibis | how is it april fool's if it's 3 weeks? | Apr 07 22:27 |
| immibis | riddle me this: how is it possible to distinguish between being ironically nazi and actually nazi? What are the outward-facing indicators? | Apr 07 22:28 |
| bnchs | did i say he did it all in one day? | Apr 07 22:28 |
| bnchs | immibis: it's obvious it's a JOKE | Apr 07 22:28 |
| bnchs | he shook the text | Apr 07 22:28 |
| bnchs | rotating webm of hitler | Apr 07 22:28 |
| immibis | what are the outward-facing indicators that it's a joke? Is all shaking text a joke? | Apr 07 22:28 |
| bnchs | it's obviously not meant as nazism | Apr 07 22:28 |
| kingoffrance | cock.li seems a big indicator to me lol | Apr 07 22:28 |
| immibis | if stormfront makes the text shake, will it be a joke? | Apr 07 22:29 |
| bnchs | first of all, tell me this | Apr 07 22:29 |
| bnchs | this is related to cock.li only | Apr 07 22:29 |
| bnchs | not stormfront | Apr 07 22:29 |
| bnchs | this prank is as much as a 13 year old's childish joke | Apr 07 22:29 |
| MinceR | 07 232645 < bnchs> "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG". I did this while the server was hosted in | Apr 07 22:29 |
| bnchs | on 4chan | Apr 07 22:30 |
| MinceR | how did he lose the war, then? | Apr 07 22:30 |
| immibis | yes there are lots of unironic nazis on 4chan | Apr 07 22:30 |
| immibis | so tell me what makes the difference between ironic and unironic | Apr 07 22:30 |
| bnchs | if you start sharing actual nazi propoganda | Apr 07 22:30 |
| MinceR | time makes the difference, perhaps | Apr 07 22:31 |
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| MinceR | as in, allegedly 4chan used to be smart people pretending to be idiots | Apr 07 22:31 |
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| MinceR | and i'm pretty sure it's the other way around by now | Apr 07 22:31 |
| MinceR | "ironically" spouting nazi bullshit on a platform attracts nazis | Apr 07 22:31 |
| bnchs | there's a difference between being a nazi | Apr 07 22:32 |
| bnchs | and mocking nazis | Apr 07 22:32 |
| bnchs | like making a game where you shoot nazis | Apr 07 22:32 |
| bnchs | or taking the piss out of them | Apr 07 22:32 |
| MinceR | the german government couldn't tell the difference | Apr 07 22:32 |
| MinceR | they banned wolfenstein 3d because "oh no, nazi symbolism!" | Apr 07 22:32 |
| bnchs | remember the website was hosted in Germany at the time | Apr 07 22:33 |
| bnchs | so obviously a country that is serious about nazi (even if it's a joke) is a bad place to do this | Apr 07 22:33 |
| immibis | bnchs: did you literally just say that nazism is ironic when it happens in germany? | Apr 07 22:33 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 07 22:33 |
| immibis | because bruh | Apr 07 22:34 |
| bnchs | what? | Apr 07 22:34 |
| bnchs | no | Apr 07 22:34 |
| bnchs | i'm saying that germany is a bad place to do jokes like this | Apr 07 22:34 |
| MinceR | "german humor is no laughing matter!" | Apr 07 22:34 |
| immibis | you're saying it's obviously ironic because it happened in a place where it would be bad to do it ironically? | Apr 07 22:34 |
| bnchs | no | Apr 07 22:34 |
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| bnchs | i don't owe you countless arguments | Apr 07 22:35 |
| bnchs | go take this up with daemonfc | Apr 07 22:35 |
| immibis | you owe a good explanation of why you think nazis should just be allowed to be nazis | Apr 07 22:36 |
| bnchs | how do i owe you | Apr 07 22:36 |
| bnchs | especially in a channel that has been derailed so far | Apr 07 22:36 |
| bnchs | what i'm saying is how a creator's ironic joke about nazis got him arrested | Apr 07 22:37 |
| bnchs | also i don't owe you shit | Apr 07 22:37 |
| bnchs | i don't like nazis but i don't give a shit about them, as long as they're not in my face | Apr 07 22:38 |
| MinceR | don't worry, they'll get in your face eventually | Apr 07 22:39 |
| bnchs | and unlike whatever people on facebook, i can handle them and take a joke once in a while | Apr 07 22:39 |
| MinceR | you can't handle them if they're the government, unless you have an army | Apr 07 22:39 |
| bnchs | they'll never will be | Apr 07 22:40 |
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| MinceR | they already are in some places | Apr 07 22:40 |
| bnchs | do they kill people? | Apr 07 22:40 |
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| bnchs | do they discriminate against other people? | Apr 07 22:40 |
| MinceR | they do kill people | Apr 07 22:41 |
| MinceR | they do discriminate against other people | Apr 07 22:41 |
| bnchs | well i don't accept that | Apr 07 22:41 |
| MinceR | good | Apr 07 22:41 |
| MinceR | terrorussia is already doing all that | Apr 07 22:41 |
| bnchs | tbh i wasted all my brainpower on this | Apr 07 22:41 |
| bnchs | im gonna go | Apr 07 22:42 |
| bnchs | and forget this happened | Apr 07 22:42 |
| immibis | bnchs: people not giving a shit about nazis, is how the nazis happened | Apr 07 22:44 |
| immibis | all it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing | Apr 07 22:45 |
| bnchs | ok, is the golden rule of internet forgotten by now? | Apr 07 22:45 |
| immibis | as MinceR said would you rather make them fuck off now when it's just yelling, or wait for them to point a gun in your face, and then tell them to fuck off? | Apr 07 22:45 |
| bnchs | that you shouldn't trust anything in the internet? | Apr 07 22:45 |
| MinceR | did i say that? | Apr 07 22:45 |
| immibis | "<MinceR> don't worry, they'll get in your face eventually" | Apr 07 22:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, i don't know when is the right time to start killing them | Apr 07 22:46 |
| immibis | only kill people if they are trying to kill you | Apr 07 22:46 |
| bnchs | look, the point is | Apr 07 22:46 |
| immibis | otherwise don't. | Apr 07 22:46 |
| bnchs | i don't like actual nazis | Apr 07 22:46 |
| immibis | but that doesn't mean they have to be tolerated, just because they aren't trying to kill you yet | Apr 07 22:47 |
| immibis | there are steps between toleration and killing | Apr 07 22:47 |
| bnchs | but i can take tons of dark humor jokes | Apr 07 22:47 |
| immibis | bnchs: what is your evidence that the cockli guy isn't a nazi? | Apr 07 22:47 |
| immibis | i mean, he put "hitler did nothing wrong" in big shaking text on his homepage | Apr 07 22:47 |
| MinceR | i also don't know the right point and way to start silencing them | Apr 07 22:48 |
| bnchs | just because someone types "hitler did nothing wrong" doesn't mean they're an actual nazi | Apr 07 22:48 |
| bnchs | tons of old 4chan jokes were about that | Apr 07 22:48 |
| bnchs | i said OLD | Apr 07 22:48 |
| MinceR | i don't think i've seen that phrase from people who didn't mean it | Apr 07 22:48 |
| immibis | bnchs: tons of people who engaged in those jokes grew up to be nazis | Apr 07 22:48 |
| immibis | that's plausibly where the far right movement came from. edgy "humour" | Apr 07 22:48 |
| immibis | you can only type that so many times before you start believing it | Apr 07 22:48 |
| bnchs | look in his website now | Apr 07 22:48 |
| MinceR | also, just plain edginess | Apr 07 22:48 |
| bnchs | is it guilty until proven innocent? | Apr 07 22:49 |
| immibis | see, I typed "abolish capitalism" a bunch of times and now I'm a communist | Apr 07 22:49 |
| MinceR | some kids decided that authoritarianism is the edgiest thing ever, and so must be followed | Apr 07 22:49 |
| bnchs | if you can't take edgy jokes | Apr 07 22:49 |
| bnchs | then i can see why | Apr 07 22:50 |
| immibis | bnchs: i don't care about edgy jokes. I care about the fact they lead to actual edginess and then actual authoritarian fascism | Apr 07 22:50 |
| immibis | and that leads to genocide and world war | Apr 07 22:50 |
| bnchs | you can start lurking his twitter | Apr 07 22:50 |
| bnchs | see if there's actual nazism | Apr 07 22:50 |
| bnchs | also lets see KYM | Apr 07 22:50 |
| bnchs | ""Hitler Did Nothing Wrong" is a statement [[[used for trolling purposes]]] to deny that the acts Adolf Hitler was responsible for during his reign were morally wrong." | Apr 07 22:51 |
| bnchs | the statement is mostly used for trolling | Apr 07 22:51 |
| MinceR | it's pretty easy to see it isn't a joke when the same people have repeated it 9001 times for 10 years and for some reason it's still supposed to be funny | Apr 07 22:51 |
| immibis | did you not see that most of these edgy people GREW UP TO BE ACTUAL NAZIS? | Apr 07 22:51 |
| bnchs | immibis, tell me one | Apr 07 22:51 |
| MinceR | perhaps for some people repeating the same thing ad nauseam substitutes for being actually funny? | Apr 07 22:52 |
| bnchs | it's used for the purposes to try to be the most offensive | Apr 07 22:52 |
| MinceR | turns out practicing nazism is more offensive than spouting nazism | Apr 07 22:55 |
| MinceR | "it's just a prank, bro!" | Apr 07 22:55 |
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| SomeH4x0r | wb, though I leave in a few minutes | Apr 07 22:57 |
| matey | hi | Apr 07 22:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▁▂▅▂▁▄▇▅▃▂▁▃▁▁▁▁▁▃█▃▅▅▄▂▄▅▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 34.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁█▂▁▇▁▂▁███▁▁▁▆▁███▂▁▁▂▂▁█▁▂▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 95.08▕ swarm size (avg): 316.23 ⟲ | Apr 07 22:59 |
| MinceR | i guess humanity failing to cross The Great Filter is even funnier :> | Apr 07 22:59 |
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| SomeH4x0r | failing? or not caring? | Apr 07 23:00 |
| MinceR | failing | Apr 07 23:00 |
| MinceR | going extinct | Apr 07 23:00 |
| bnchs | immibis: i just wish i could accept everyone | Apr 07 23:00 |
| techrights-news | "In my previous blog, I discussed the random placement of the animal cards and avoiding the overlap between two animal cards. As we are moving towards the end of the SoK period. I want to thank my mentors for resolving all my doubts(mostly silly) and helping me improve." https://samarthrajwrites.wordpress.com/2022/04/08/sok22-week-11-finalizing-the-left-right-click-activity/ | Apr 07 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-samarthrajwrites.wordpress.com | Sok’22 Week 11: Finalizing the Left-Right Click Activity – Samarth raj | Apr 07 23:01 | |
| techrights-news | <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> | Apr 07 23:02 |
| bnchs | well i just wish i could accept everyone, even nazis | Apr 07 23:02 |
| bnchs | thats why i'm arguing about this | Apr 07 23:02 |
| matey | you can accept nazis in a way | Apr 07 23:02 |
| techrights-news | Latest Linux Magazine Issue • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163481 | Apr 07 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Linux Magazine Issue | Tux Machines | Apr 07 23:02 | |
| matey | as idiots who should probably kill themselves | Apr 07 23:02 |
| matey | i knew a former white supremacist | Apr 07 23:02 |
| bnchs | well ok | Apr 07 23:02 |
| matey | he thought it was pretty stupid actually. but i dont know if he was ever a "nazi" | Apr 07 23:03 |
| techrights-news | "I used Pipewire for a while a year or so back and it was a little flaky, I've now returned and it's incredible how far Linux audio has come, I have no reason to keep PulseAudio in my life the only problems it has are problems I also had on PulseAudio" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=A6tomqOZvM4 | Apr 07 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | PulseAudio Is Dead To Me: Pipewire Is Here To Stay - Invidious | Apr 07 23:03 | |
| matey | he was more of a hippie after that | Apr 07 23:03 |
| matey | /me shrugs | Apr 07 23:03 |
| techrights-news | Git Annex Is The Coolest Program You’ve Never Heard Of - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=p0eVyhv2rbk ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 07 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Git Annex Is The Coolest Program You've Never Heard Of - Invidious | Apr 07 23:04 | |
| matey | "what were you doing before this?" <- darryl from the office, in "zack and miri" talking to the guy who played randall in "clerks" | Apr 07 23:04 |
| matey | "white supremacist" | Apr 07 23:04 |
| techrights-news | Mark Shuttleworth looking for slaves to become his marketers https://fossforce.com/2022/04/mayday-mayday-mayday-ubuntus-throwing-a-release-party-and-needs-speakers/ | Apr 07 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Ubuntu's Throwing a Release Party and Needs Speakers! - FOSS Force | Apr 07 23:04 | |
| matey | "man... fuck you" | Apr 07 23:04 |
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| matey | america built its space programme on "rescued" nazi scientists | Apr 07 23:06 |
| matey | as far as i know... | Apr 07 23:06 |
| immibis | bnchs__: accepting everyone is a logical contradiction. look up paradox of tolerance | Apr 07 23:06 |
| matey | its a complex issue. because its not like these scientists were marching around the camps killing people | Apr 07 23:06 |
| matey | and being part of the regime wasnt exactly optional | Apr 07 23:06 |
| bnchs__ | i don't wanna hold hate against anyone | Apr 07 23:06 |
| techrights-news | People are the best data cleaners https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2022-04-08.html | Apr 07 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datafix.com.au | People are the best data cleaners | Apr 07 23:07 | |
| matey | but then again when randall munroe gets on a high horse i wanna say "okay, 'nazis in space'" | Apr 07 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | operation paperclip | Apr 07 23:07 |
| matey | yep | Apr 07 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | see book "nazis next door" | Apr 07 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's recent | Apr 07 23:07 |
| matey | before his time of course | Apr 07 23:07 |
| matey | but i mean. | Apr 07 23:07 |
| matey | nasa/nazi | Apr 07 23:07 |
| matey | its a bit of an ethical grey area imo | Apr 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | allianz=allnaz | Apr 07 23:08 |
| matey | let edwin deny sort it out, hes the expert (really) | Apr 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | allianz=allnazi | Apr 07 23:08 |
| immibis | bnchs__: paradox of tolerance | Apr 07 23:08 |
| matey | /me thinks the paradox of tolerance is a bit hyped up as an answer to everything | Apr 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Werner Vonn ICBM | Apr 07 23:08 |
| MinceR | has randall munroe ever got off the high horse? | Apr 07 23:08 |
| matey | used more often to censor people than for ethical quandries | Apr 07 23:08 |
| matey | <MinceR> has randall munroe <- you know what they say, if you keep making that face itll get stuck that way | Apr 07 23:09 |
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| matey | i think theyre all useless. let more prove me wrong, that would be great. | Apr 07 23:10 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro | Apr 07 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro | Apr 07 23:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun - Invidious | Apr 07 23:10 | |
| immibis | matey: bnchs is saying he wants to tolerate intolerance. it's a direct application | Apr 07 23:10 |
| MinceR | > if you keep making that face itll get stuck that way | Apr 07 23:10 |
| matey | immibis: its directly relevant yes | Apr 07 23:10 |
| MinceR | has that ever happened? | Apr 07 23:10 |
| matey | i question its usefulness | Apr 07 23:10 |
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| matey | what if we werent talking about nazis? | Apr 07 23:11 |
| matey | what if we were talking about northern ireland and the republic instead? | Apr 07 23:11 |
| bnchs | i mean i'm not a nazi whatsoever | Apr 07 23:11 |
| techrights-news | Canonical licks boots of military company ICBM, loves the taste of it https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-22-04-lts-is-ready-for-ibm-z16 | Apr 07 23:11 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-22-04-lts-is-ready-for-ibm-z16 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-22-04-lts-is-ready-for-ibm-z16 | Apr 07 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM z16 is here, and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS beta is ready | Ubuntu | Apr 07 23:11 | |
| immibis | matey: what about it? | Apr 07 23:11 |
| matey | immibis: i dont know, thats the thing | Apr 07 23:11 |
| bnchs | but really i don't wanna hate anyone | Apr 07 23:11 |
| matey | /me shrugs | Apr 07 23:11 |
| matey | bnchs: good news, it isnt mandatory (in most places) | Apr 07 23:12 |
| matey | though i would warn any decent person against being a doormat | Apr 07 23:12 |
| matey | because doormats get exploited and used against good people by bad people | Apr 07 23:12 |
| techrights-news | Canonical to ICBM (with a boot in its mouth): hmmmm. DELICIOUS! Can we taste the other boot? | Apr 07 23:12 |
| matey | or against bad people by bad people (sometimes better bad people, sometimes worse bad people) | Apr 07 23:12 |
| bnchs | oh | Apr 07 23:12 |
| matey | doormats get used, dont be one | Apr 07 23:12 |
| bnchs | well i'm sorry if i ever had this argument | Apr 07 23:12 |
| matey | but you dont have to hate anybody | Apr 07 23:12 |
| bnchs | because it kinda put me in a chokehold | Apr 07 23:13 |
| matey | bnchs: im speaking generally. i never said you were one. | Apr 07 23:13 |
| matey | bnchs: i wouldnt worry about it | Apr 07 23:13 |
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| bnchs__ | anyway my connection is unstable (you know midnight ISP bullshit) | Apr 07 23:14 |
| matey | yes | Apr 07 23:14 |
| bnchs__ | i can't talk right now | Apr 07 23:14 |
| techrights-news | Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (March 2022) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/04/07/performance-sheriff-newsletter-march-2022/ | Apr 07 23:14 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/04/07/performance-sheriff-newsletter-march-2022/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/04/07/performance-sheriff-newsletter-march-2022/ | Apr 07 23:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (March 2022) – Mozilla Performance | Apr 07 23:14 | |
| matey | no worries | Apr 07 23:14 |
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| techrights-news | CISA/NSA; we're ALL ABOUT SHARING! Microsoft shares back doors with us (and neither of us tells you) https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/07/guidance-sharing-cyber-incident-information | Apr 07 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Guidance on Sharing Cyber Incident Information | CISA | Apr 07 23:16 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/imagine | Apr 07 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Imagine | Apr 07 23:19 | |
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| matey | "malcolm x john lennon? cmon in and dig your father." "oh, hey pop." <- firesign theatre | Apr 07 23:20 |
| bnchs | i hate when the connection gets unstable every midnight | Apr 07 23:20 |
| bnchs | mixing a shithole ISP with tons of facebook live streams | Apr 07 23:20 |
| matey | <bnchs> i hate when the connection gets unstable every midnight <- cool | Apr 07 23:20 |
| bnchs | when everyone's at home | Apr 07 23:20 |
| matey | so you can hate something at least :) | Apr 07 23:21 |
| bnchs | yeah like microsoft | Apr 07 23:21 |
| bnchs | i hate them too | Apr 07 23:21 |
| matey | thats a good one | Apr 07 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | FB leave steam=shit | Apr 07 23:22 |
| matey | i signed up to play with an old ibm miniframe today | Apr 07 23:22 |
| matey | i dont plan to do it for long, i dont feel bad about trying out a historical machine just to try it | Apr 07 23:22 |
| matey | its not like im going to start using system i (yes thats what they call it) | Apr 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | leave steam => because I cannot meet people IN PERSON | Apr 07 23:22 |
| matey | /me tries to guess the connection between steam and fb | Apr 07 23:22 |
| bnchs | our shithole ISP can't keep up with the bandwidth-intensive shit everyone in this country does | Apr 07 23:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | steamy shit | Apr 07 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | in greenland | Apr 07 23:23 |
| matey | :) | Apr 07 23:23 |
| bnchs | try putting metaverse in it aswell | Apr 07 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | sent with 4 virtual farts farts farts farts | Apr 07 23:23 |
| bnchs | this thing is starting to weigh on my connection speed a bit | Apr 07 23:23 |
| matey | i think it would be nice to have reliable email you know, before they try to shove the matrix into these shitty over-booked leases to globally-pathetic internet backbones | Apr 07 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation was this shared here? | Apr 07 23:24 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: meduza.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation | Apr 07 23:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Apr 07 23:24 | |
| bnchs | yeah it's good | Apr 07 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | > Meduza publishes new footage evidencing civilian murders in Bucha during Russian occupation | Apr 07 23:24 |
| matey | those arent murders, theyre special death operations | Apr 07 23:24 |
| bnchs | giving more bandwidth to normie crap like facebook and instagram that consumes a shit ton | Apr 07 23:24 |
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| bnchs | and less bandwidth to lightweight protocol | Apr 07 23:24 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163482 | Apr 07 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 23:25 | |
| immibis | it's a special routing operation bnchs | Apr 07 23:25 |
| matey | hehe | Apr 07 23:25 |
| bnchs | XRevan86, i already knew you were a brony, because when i looked up your name i saw "qt-ponies" | Apr 07 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: heh | Apr 07 23:25 |
| bnchs | and never said a single thing about it | Apr 07 23:25 |
| matey | /me stopped watching fim after the divorce | Apr 07 23:26 |
| matey | wife liked anime. and ponies. | Apr 07 23:26 |
| matey | her mum reminded me a bit of pinkie pie (similar personality) | Apr 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | ponies with horns | Apr 07 23:26 |
| MinceR | https://www.lfg.co/page/42/ | Apr 07 23:26 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: lfg.co | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lfg.co/page/42/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.lfg.co/page/42/ | Apr 07 23:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Page 42 | Apr 07 23:26 | |
| matey | ponies with horns and wings! | Apr 07 23:26 |
| MinceR | horny ponies | Apr 07 23:27 |
| matey | RAINBOW horny ponies | Apr 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | pr0nies? | Apr 07 23:27 |
| bnchs | clopping | Apr 07 23:27 |
| matey | "princess celestia, you have to help me!" | Apr 07 23:27 |
| matey | "what is it rainbow dash, whats wrong?" | Apr 07 23:28 |
| matey | "ive got the clop!" | Apr 07 23:28 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows and Videos • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163483 | Apr 07 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows and Videos | Tux Machines | Apr 07 23:28 | |
| schestowitz | lxer does not double-check what it posts :/ http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/313832/index.html | Apr 07 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: Stat Command in Linux – Use + Examples | Apr 07 23:28 | |
| bnchs | my little pony fanfic | Apr 07 23:28 |
| bnchs | i must have walked into the wrong channel | Apr 07 23:28 |
| matey | no this is still #techrights | Apr 07 23:29 |
| XRevan86 | matey: 👀 | Apr 07 23:29 |
| matey | only this year, roys going with a mlp theme | Apr 07 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, are pwnies still going? | Apr 07 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not heard of them in years | Apr 07 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so either they don't publicised them or they stopped | Apr 07 23:29 |
| matey | gnu/linux is magic | Apr 07 23:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: FiM is finished, but a new generation is up. | Apr 07 23:29 |
| matey | /me only knows about the cgi ponies because he heard about them here | Apr 07 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, Pwnie Awards | Apr 07 23:30 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwnie_Awards | Apr 07 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pwnie Awards - Wikipedia | Apr 07 23:30 | |
| schestowitz | still going | Apr 07 23:30 |
| matey | and then only from the wikipedia article | Apr 07 23:30 |
| matey | if you think about it, mlp is on its 5th generation | Apr 07 23:30 |
| schestowitz | 2021: Most Epic Fail: Microsoft, for their failure to fix PrintNightmare.[8] | Apr 07 23:30 |
| matey | it goes all the way back to the 80s. | Apr 07 23:30 |
| bnchs | schestowitz, microsoft is the most epic fail | Apr 07 23:30 |
| bnchs | that says alot | Apr 07 23:30 |
| matey | iif they go on any longer theyre going to merge with doctor who | Apr 07 23:30 |
| schestowitz | bnchs: most wsine-e | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | he will regenerate into an alacorn princess | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | she | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | /me shrugs | Apr 07 23:31 |
| schestowitz | unixcron-> unicorn | Apr 07 23:31 |
| MinceR | lol @ the clop | Apr 07 23:31 |
| bnchs | epic fail | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | /me has not kept up with the doctors gender since the guy from torchwood | Apr 07 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Erm, G5 is set in the distant future relative to G4. | Apr 07 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | With new characters. | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | G5 is set in the <- yes, i read | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | yes, i know | Apr 07 23:31 |
| bnchs | MinceR: do not look it up | Apr 07 23:31 |
| matey | doctor who has also moved on from previous casts | Apr 07 23:32 |
| matey | but i like that they got the old voice actresses for the opening scene | Apr 07 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I don't get your idea on merging with Doctor Who then. | Apr 07 23:32 |
| matey | that was a nice touch | Apr 07 23:32 |
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| matey | <XRevan86> matey: I don't get your idea on merging with Doctor Who then <- okay, well its a stretch to begin with | Apr 07 23:32 |
| matey | my point was that both have gone on through several regenerations | Apr 07 23:33 |
| matey | and the casts change too, so... | Apr 07 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | Is RTD coming back to Doctor Who or did I dream that up? | Apr 07 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | "Russell T Davies to return as Doctor Who showrunner" <- Holy crap, it actually did happen. | Apr 07 23:33 |
| matey | /me thought he did a great job rebooting | Apr 07 23:34 |
| matey | still love baker, but eccleston and tennant: wonderful | Apr 07 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | Indeed. And Moffat did his best work under his supervision too. | Apr 07 23:34 |
| matey | when i see james corden i still think hes the neighbour. | Apr 07 23:35 |
| matey | doesnt matter if hes singing in the car next to selena gomez | Apr 07 23:35 |
| XRevan86 | matey: :) | Apr 07 23:35 |
| matey | but i also liked him in gavin and stacey | Apr 07 23:35 |
| bnchs | wtf | Apr 07 23:36 |
| matey | /me loves welsh accents best | Apr 07 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: "In June 2010, Corden played Craig Owens in the Doctor Who episode "The Lodger", in which the Doctor moved in with him." | Apr 07 23:36 |
| bnchs | something's odd | Apr 07 23:36 |
| bnchs | according to a pornhub survey, clop is mostly watched in central and eastern europe | Apr 07 23:37 |
| matey | /me giggles | Apr 07 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: I dont' have any part in this. | Apr 07 23:37 |
| bnchs | sureeee :) | Apr 07 23:39 |
| XRevan86 | I do know people that do however :) | Apr 07 23:39 |
| techrights-news | "Suspending your phone when it’s idle is the key way to increase overall battery life, and recently we’ve made progress in suspending the Librem 5" https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-suspend-preview/ | Apr 07 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Librem 5 Suspend Preview – Purism | Apr 07 23:42 | |
| bnchs | well i don't know how a pony show managed to get a fanbase this big | Apr 07 23:44 |
| bnchs | but i won't question it | Apr 07 23:44 |
| *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Apr 07 23:44 | |
| bnchs | i rather not know | Apr 07 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: https://yewtu.be/vELn0VlSseo | Apr 07 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Rainbow Dash - Yeah, it's a mystery - Invidious | Apr 07 23:44 | |
| techrights-news | Simon Sharwood propping up frauds and charlatans from Gartner; they're paid to lie https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/containers_vs_vms_vs_serverless/?sc_cid=7013a000002q6eQAAQ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group | Apr 07 23:45 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/containers_vs_vms_vs_serverless/?sc_cid=7013a000002q6eQAAQ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/containers_vs_vms_vs_serverless/?sc_cid=7013a000002q6eQAAQ | Apr 07 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Containers may already be best for hybrid apps, says Gartner • The Register | Apr 07 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights | Apr 07 23:45 | |
| XRevan86 | One tab: https://yewtu.be/qRC4Vk6kisY ; another tab: photographs of a woman who's head exploded because the Russian army shot her car with a cannon. | Apr 07 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | FPMV: "PFUDOR" - Invidious | Apr 07 23:46 | |
| matey | /me gives up on the fucking web | Apr 07 23:46 |
| *MinceR gives up on the human species | Apr 07 23:47 | |
| matey | ive been trying for 10 minutes to get a goddamned picture of a monkey puppet | Apr 07 23:47 |
| matey | i even tried captioning it to ... because maybe it wouldnt show the fucking picture without a caption | Apr 07 23:47 |
| matey | /me questions the advantage of using "fucking" as a generic adjective in this context | Apr 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: you cannot | Apr 07 23:47 |
| matey | but seriously | Apr 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | oops | Apr 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | to MinceR | Apr 07 23:48 |
| MinceR | why? | Apr 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it doesm't work like this | Apr 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they prevent suicides | Apr 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't leave the homeless alone | Apr 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot make a habitat without buying "lot" | Apr 07 23:48 |
| MinceR | who are "they"? | Apr 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | the government !!! | Apr 07 23:49 |
| bnchs | matey: do i look like i know what a JPEG is, i just want a picture of a god dang hotdog | Apr 07 23:49 |
| matey | bnchs: lol | Apr 07 23:49 |
| *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 07 23:49 | |
| matey | do i look like i know what a jay-queery is? | Apr 07 23:50 |
| MinceR | preventing the human species from coming into existence would have prevented more suicides | Apr 07 23:50 |
| matey | you should be pro-suicide, no? | Apr 07 23:50 |
| matey | or does it only count if its everyone at once? | Apr 07 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | One person should take this advice for sure. | Apr 07 23:51 |
| psydruid | they teach jay-queery at universities these days, because we all know it's such great technology | Apr 07 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | Pyña V.V., come on already. | Apr 07 23:51 |
| matey | /me doesnt support suicide because its nearly always the wrong guy | Apr 07 23:51 |
| MinceR | suicide doesn't change much | Apr 07 23:52 |
| matey | and also because epstein doesnt count for obvious reasons | Apr 07 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In that case it would. | Apr 07 23:52 |
| MinceR | it's usually very painful and the individual has already experienced a lot of suffering before they can do it | Apr 07 23:52 |
| MinceR | it's better to never have been born | Apr 07 23:52 |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat, Fedora and Ubuntu • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163484 | Apr 07 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat, Fedora and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Apr 07 23:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [19:15] <techrights-news> JS is a security threat: "jQuery versions prior to 3.0.0 are vulnerable to cross-site scripting (XSS) attacks when a cross-domain Ajax request is performed without the dataType option, causing text/javascript responses to be executed." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-097-01 | Apr 07 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Pepperl+Fuchs WirelessHART-Gateway | CISA | Apr 07 23:53 | |
| techrights-news | Devices: Librem 5, SmartKnob View, and New System on Chip. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163485 | Apr 07 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Librem 5, SmartKnob View, and New System on Chip | Tux Machines | Apr 07 23:55 | |
| techrights-news | The Bargain Bin B-Tree gemini://marginalia.nu/log/54-bargain-bin-btree.gmi | Apr 07 23:58 |
| *hoy (~c02a7411@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 07 23:58 | |
| techrights-news | "It’s so weird to me that hospitals, banks, shops, and government agencies are popping up GDPR stuff" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/gdpr | Apr 07 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | hoy: oi! | Apr 07 23:59 |
| MinceR | h'oi | Apr 07 23:59 |
| bnchs | hoy 'oi | Apr 07 23:59 |
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