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| matey | the first year that i had to deal with systemd | May 08 00:00 |
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| matey | i really fucking hated him | May 08 00:00 |
| matey | for destroying gnu/linux | May 08 00:00 |
| psydruid | I already hated him for pulseaudio | May 08 00:00 |
| matey | right? | May 08 00:00 |
| matey | however | May 08 00:00 |
| matey | and im not condoning a single octet of his work here | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | this is silver lining territory | May 08 00:01 |
| psydruid | which I had to disable on my laptop to get decent non-crackling sound out of my soundcard | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | the biggest drawback of systemd isnt systemd | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | its the way the industry and its shills bent the fuck over for it | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | and demanded the same of us | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | thats where 99% of my ire about systemd goes | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | we could have stopped this | May 08 00:01 |
| matey | one man, at least of every living human i know, did absolutely everything he could. | May 08 00:02 |
| psydruid | systemd is the nail in the coffin of gnu/linux | May 08 00:02 |
| matey | he should get a fucking medal | May 08 00:02 |
| matey | he was way ahead of devuan | May 08 00:02 |
| matey | way ahead of me | May 08 00:02 |
| matey | way ahead of everyone i can think of | May 08 00:03 |
| SomeH4x0r | Poettering is not an issue himself. I think he has a corporation behind him. | May 08 00:03 |
| matey | <SomeH4x0r> Poettering is not an issue himself. I think he has a corporation behind him <- more or less | May 08 00:03 |
| matey | but i think he HELPED | May 08 00:03 |
| SomeH4x0r | he did | May 08 00:03 |
| psydruid | but systemd/gnu/linux will "win" by becoming "windows" | May 08 00:03 |
| matey | "people say 'guns dont kill people'... but i think the gun helps!"-- izzard | May 08 00:03 |
| matey | yes it will win by ceding | May 08 00:04 |
| matey | "win by forfeit" is the essence of open source | May 08 00:04 |
| psydruid | as long as people can play their "precious" games | May 08 00:04 |
| matey | also known as "if you can beat them, join them" | May 08 00:04 |
| matey | "whats PID 1, precious?" | May 08 00:04 |
| matey | <matey> one man, at least of every living human i know, did absolutely everything he could. <- must be obvious to everyone else, since no one asked | May 08 00:06 |
| bnchs | can we mark every human with their own PID | May 08 00:06 |
| matey | no thats what ipv6 is for | May 08 00:06 |
| psydruid | but it may not be a bad thing if it replaces "the system formerly known as windows" | May 08 00:06 |
| matey | (as if imsi isnt enough) | May 08 00:06 |
| bnchs | matey: PID is a single number | May 08 00:06 |
| psydruid | as that is an even worse codebase | May 08 00:07 |
| bnchs | independent of how much the CPU can support | May 08 00:07 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_fingerprinting | May 08 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Radio fingerprinting - Wikipedia | May 08 00:07 | |
| matey | An electronic fingerprint makes it possible to identify a wireless device by its radio transmission characteristics. Radio fingerprinting is commonly used by cellular operators to prevent cloning of cell phones a cloned device will have the same numeric equipment identity but a different radio fingerprint. | May 08 00:07 |
| matey | i believe this relies on the laws of physics, rather than drm | May 08 00:08 |
| matey | <bnchs> matey: PID is a single number <- im not sure how ipv6 is different in this regard | May 08 00:09 |
| bnchs | it's not per device | May 08 00:09 |
| bnchs | it's per human | May 08 00:09 |
| matey | ahh, fair point | May 08 00:09 |
| bnchs | like a social security number | May 08 00:09 |
| bnchs | i can do a kill -s SIGKILL 1001029130 | May 08 00:09 |
| matey | so when people die we can use their pid for identity theft :) | May 08 00:10 |
| bnchs | or pkill -s SIGKILL johndoe | May 08 00:10 |
| bnchs | matey: the pid increments | May 08 00:10 |
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| psydruid | this can be used to erase someone from the planet | May 08 00:10 |
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| bnchs | even if a guy with a PID died | May 08 00:10 |
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| matey | im sure there are limits even on 64-bit versions | May 08 00:10 |
| bnchs | you won't take his PID | May 08 00:10 |
| psydruid | very cool tech, IBM | May 08 00:10 |
| matey | ibm is traditionally good at erasing people from the planet | May 08 00:11 |
| matey | its sort of their thing | May 08 00:11 |
| psydruid | all the POWER is in your hands | May 08 00:11 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164592 | May 08 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 00:11 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164593 | May 08 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 00:11 | |
| matey | "ALLOW POWER"-- ibm in the 40s | May 08 00:11 |
| techrights-news | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164594 | May 08 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software | Tux Machines | May 08 00:11 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164595 | May 08 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 00:11 | |
| psydruid | Inspur POWER | May 08 00:12 |
| psydruid | to help the Chinese with their digital transformation | May 08 00:13 |
| psydruid | or is that mutation | May 08 00:13 |
| psydruid | I forgot | May 08 00:13 |
| matey | if youre talking about the people, its transformation | May 08 00:13 |
| techrights-news | The Stars, From the Ground Up: While Supplies Last (Part 1) gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202205/20220507-the-stars-from-the-ground-up-while-supplies-last-part-1.gmi | May 08 00:13 |
| matey | if youre talking about the laws, its mutation | May 08 00:13 |
| psydruid | it's going to be a transformative experience for sure | May 08 00:14 |
| psydruid | life will never be the same again | May 08 00:14 |
| matey | the good news is that china is occupied by people intent on fixing it | May 08 00:14 |
| matey | the bad news of course, is the relatively low count of such people :) | May 08 00:15 |
| matey | but at least they are present | May 08 00:15 |
| matey | and the numbers will continue to grow | May 08 00:15 |
| matey | as roy says about github, its only a matter of time | May 08 00:16 |
| matey | (sort of) | May 08 00:16 |
| techrights-news | Voyager 22.04.1 is out https://voyagerlive.org/ | May 08 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voyagerlive.org | | May 08 00:16 | |
| *psydruid was being extremely cynical about what's happening to people in Tibet and Xinjiang | May 08 00:16 | |
| matey | thats reasonable | May 08 00:16 |
| matey | cynicism is justifiable | May 08 00:16 |
| matey | im even in favour of it, as long as it doesnt become a crutch | May 08 00:17 |
| matey | but i know youre smarter than that, so i dont worry | May 08 00:17 |
| matey | it really is justifiable | May 08 00:17 |
| matey | cynicism is normally better than throwing the monitor | May 08 00:17 |
| matey | the world says "fuck everything" and the cynic says "whatever" | May 08 00:17 |
| matey | later we can say more and maybe even do something about it | May 08 00:18 |
| matey | but at least we dont have to go buy a new monitor | May 08 00:18 |
| matey | so as a first step, cynicism is practical | May 08 00:18 |
| matey | its a way of expressing rage that 9 out of 10 monitors prefer | May 08 00:18 |
| matey | (some are just so tired of looking at tech news sites that they would prefer to die) | May 08 00:19 |
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| psydruid | I've never been that destructive or pessimistic, but I try to be realistic most of the time | May 08 00:21 |
| matey | realism has limitations | May 08 00:21 |
| matey | the wright brothers didnt care about being realistic | May 08 00:21 |
| matey | i beat a dead horse with them, only because they represent such a triumph of human ingenuity | May 08 00:21 |
| matey | in the face of 99% of the scientific world thinking they were literally nuts. | May 08 00:22 |
| matey | and they werent even scientists, they were BICYCLE DESIGNERS | May 08 00:22 |
| matey | but when they were done, they were (at LEAST) engineers | May 08 00:22 |
| matey | thats the kind of human spirit free software needs to get back | May 08 00:23 |
| psydruid | I think there is something wrong with software in the first place | May 08 00:24 |
| matey | also they started simple and iterated, which i fucking love | May 08 00:24 |
| matey | <psydruid> I think there is something wrong with software in the first place <- interesting, what? | May 08 00:24 |
| psydruid | or maybe even the field of computer science | May 08 00:24 |
| matey | oh definitely | May 08 00:24 |
| matey | i mean it has its good points | May 08 00:24 |
| matey | most things do | May 08 00:24 |
| psydruid | it makes no sense to reinvent everything every 30-50 years | May 08 00:24 |
| matey | oh i think it makes more than none | May 08 00:25 |
| matey | but fashion is way overdone | May 08 00:25 |
| matey | its one thing to reinvent things every few decades | May 08 00:25 |
| psydruid | you don't see that in natural sciences, which is where I come from | May 08 00:25 |
| matey | its another to drag everyone else through that shit | May 08 00:25 |
| matey | industry isnt a natural science :) | May 08 00:25 |
| matey | its more of a cult | May 08 00:26 |
| matey | and cults and narcissists have to keep reinventing themselves | May 08 00:26 |
| matey | imagine what would happen if the spanish inquisition showed up right about now | May 08 00:26 |
| matey | the original one | May 08 00:26 |
| matey | youd have cardinals getting red on a lot more than their outfits | May 08 00:26 |
| matey | theyd be toast | May 08 00:27 |
| psydruid | imagine having to throw out the laws of Maxwell, Newton and Einstein because they are "old" and we should get with the "new" | May 08 00:27 |
| matey | cults and narcissists have to reinvent themselves constantly, because otherwise people would catch on to their bullshit | May 08 00:27 |
| matey | <psydruid> imagine having to throw out the laws of Maxwell, Newton and Einstein because they are "old" and we should get with the "new" <- indeed, this is the thing about computing i reject | May 08 00:28 |
| matey | but | May 08 00:28 |
| matey | there is this thing where | May 08 00:28 |
| matey | when you get new tools... | May 08 00:28 |
| matey | you want to go out and redo everything with new tools | May 08 00:28 |
| matey | and while thats really terrible for some things, i get it, at least | May 08 00:28 |
| psydruid | I was misled into thinking the field was young and things hadn't settled yet, but instead it all turned into complete garbage | May 08 00:28 |
| matey | if you keep inventing the wheel, eventually some idiot is going to make a square one, and tell people round is out of date | May 08 00:29 |
| matey | the problem is really that the industry pushes people around | May 08 00:29 |
| matey | if people are free to laugh at this shit, and nothing can stop them from doing that, then its probably okay | May 08 00:30 |
| matey | which is different from ideal | May 08 00:30 |
| matey | but resources being what they are, it becomes a fight for those every time some idiot makes the square wheel OF THE FUTURE | May 08 00:30 |
| matey | whether its the cloud, systemd or flatpak | May 08 00:30 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22050622 | May 08 00:30 |
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| matey | so here we are. | May 08 00:30 |
| matey | and youre right that its far from a scientific attitude | May 08 00:31 |
| matey | which is why i spent so much time talking about how our attitude about this could be more scientific | May 08 00:31 |
| matey | not perfectly so, just more reasonably so | May 08 00:31 |
| matey | i mean the cults we have to deal with are based on marketing and bullshit | May 08 00:31 |
| matey | and the needs of industry douchebags | May 08 00:32 |
| matey | aka "developers developers developers" | May 08 00:32 |
| matey | which really means industry | May 08 00:32 |
| matey | "microsoft! microsoft! microsoft! microsoft!" "microsoft! microsoft! microsoft! microsoft!"-- what ballmer really meant | May 08 00:33 |
| matey | we have to reinvent everything-- so microsoft can sell it to us | May 08 00:33 |
| matey | then a few years later, we have to do it again | May 08 00:33 |
| matey | just like printer manufacturers arent in the printer business, theyre in the ink cartridge business | May 08 00:34 |
| matey | microsoft isnt in the software business, theyre in the make users redo everything all over again (INNOVA~1) business | May 08 00:34 |
| matey | if they gave a shit about software they would have taken windows outside and shot it years ago | May 08 00:35 |
| matey | it serves their purposes | May 08 00:35 |
| activelow | chopping long filenames was common with many early computer systems, reason being limited RAM, a few dozen KiB of it | May 08 00:36 |
| matey | why sell the cow when you can sell the milk for so much more? | May 08 00:36 |
| psydruid | I wonder how it serves anyone else's purpose | May 08 00:36 |
| matey | it doesnt | May 08 00:36 |
| matey | thats where marketing comes in | May 08 00:36 |
| activelow | reminder, the early altair basic was punched onto a paper tape 4KiB max | May 08 00:36 |
| matey | when a drug dealer sells you something highly addictive, theyre not considering anyone elses needs but their own | May 08 00:37 |
| matey | its just business | May 08 00:37 |
| activelow | some CP/M didn't support sub-directories... another such problem in the early days | May 08 00:37 |
| matey | it takes a lot of marketing to sell people a model based on profiting from everyone else shooting themselves in the foot again and again and again | May 08 00:37 |
| activelow | nowadays, it is megasoft almost everywhere, including the corporation which sticked to the label micro | May 08 00:38 |
| activelow | maga-mega-soft | May 08 00:39 |
| matey | http://techrights.org/wiki/Ted_MacReilly_Handbook_Revisited:_Chapter_9 | May 08 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ted MacReilly Handbook Revisited: Chapter 9 - Techrights | May 08 00:39 | |
| matey | Chapter 9: Ownership Through Branding | May 08 00:39 |
| activelow | to my knowledge early "micro"-soft did implement their prime product themselves at that time: basic | May 08 00:41 |
| activelow | nonetheless, i wouldn't touch any other of their products ever, except for the basic interpreter | May 08 00:42 |
| activelow | don't know, if anyone on earth could decipher the paper tape | May 08 00:43 |
| matey | whats funny about this is: | May 08 00:43 |
| MinceR | except for the tons of bugfixing so it would actually work on the altair, from what i've heard :> | May 08 00:43 |
| matey | www.awakenthegreatnesswithin.com/35-inspirational-thomas-j-watson-quotes-on-success/ | May 08 00:43 |
| matey | A leading self-made industrialist, he was one of the richest men of his time and was called the world's greatest salesman when he died in 1956. | May 08 00:43 |
| psydruid | their newest products always require the latest computers | May 08 00:43 |
| matey | whats funny about that snippet of text is | May 08 00:43 |
| matey | i was looking for "far side" "greatest salesman" | May 08 00:43 |
| matey | about the guy who sold refrigerators to eskimos :) | May 08 00:44 |
| matey | and it gave me something about the guy from ibm. | May 08 00:44 |
| matey | all you need to operate an altair is a long piece of paper, a very small hole punch, and GREAT DEAL of patience | May 08 00:45 |
| matey | the first thing i would do, personally, is switch to some kind of plastic or mylar tape. | May 08 00:46 |
| matey | the second thing i would do is switch to magnetic tape, and the third thing i would do is add a fucking usb port. | May 08 00:46 |
| matey | "but not a real fucking usb port thats cruel" | May 08 00:46 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=B4L3ls_6UYg | May 08 00:48 |
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| activelow | the paper tape has one huge benefit: longevity... if anyone could decipher it and construct the required hardware... including the altair | May 08 00:48 |
| matey | of course a usb device connected to an altair is NOT going to have the throughput of a usb device connected to... a real usb port | May 08 00:50 |
| matey | but since the altair can only read so many k from it anyway, thats okay | May 08 00:50 |
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| matey | def wtflen(p): | May 08 00:52 |
| matey | c=0 | May 08 00:53 |
| matey | for each in p: c += 1 | May 08 00:53 |
| matey | return c | May 08 00:53 |
| matey | s/for/ for/ | May 08 00:53 |
| matey | print wtflen("how long is this string?") | May 08 00:54 |
| psydruid | wtfbasic = python | May 08 00:56 |
| matey | python and basic both have a perfectly good len statement | May 08 00:56 |
| matey | the python one is cooler because it works on arrays (lists) | May 08 00:57 |
| matey | python 3 = wtfpython | May 08 00:57 |
| matey | wtflen() is meant as a sort of analogue to putting a usb port on an altair :) | May 08 00:58 |
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| matey | i mean an actual len statement wouldnt work that way, because the language implementation should already have access to the size of variables etc | May 08 00:59 |
| matey | otherwise how would it know how to iterate through the characters? its a tautological function definition | May 08 00:59 |
| *psydruid has no idea what an altair even is | May 08 00:59 | |
| matey | the hardware that created microsoft | May 08 01:00 |
| psydruid | evil hardware that must have been | May 08 01:00 |
| matey | nope, the hardware is innocent | May 08 01:00 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_BASIC | May 08 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Altair BASIC - Wikipedia | May 08 01:00 | |
| matey | it was simply exploited to create an empire | May 08 01:01 |
| matey | in fact it was more than innocent, the infamous "letter to hobbyists" was intended to discourage people from copying software for their altair | May 08 01:01 |
| techrights-news | "A 7-segment display can be used to display a limited amount of data having numeric values and alphabets. Such types of displays are mostly used in banks, hospitals, super markets for displaying token numbers and counter numbers. So, we have also created a digital counter using the 7-segment display with Arduino Uno" https://linuxhint.com/make-digital-counter-seven-segment-arduino-2/ | May 08 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to make digital counter using 7 segment with Arduino Uno | May 08 01:01 | |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club | May 08 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Homebrew Computer Club - Wikipedia | May 08 01:02 | |
| psydruid | they did a "Gary, kill 'em all" on the industry | May 08 01:02 |
| matey | The Homebrew Computer Club was an informal group of electronic enthusiasts and technically minded hobbyists who gathered to trade parts, circuits, and information pertaining to DIY construction of personal computing devices. | May 08 01:02 |
| matey | It was started by Gordon French and Fred Moore who met at the Community Computer Center in Menlo Park. | May 08 01:03 |
| matey | The first meeting of the club was held on March 5, 1975, in French's garage | May 08 01:03 |
| matey | apple: started in a garage | May 08 01:03 |
| matey | hp: started in a garage | May 08 01:03 |
| matey | sam zeloof: makes chips in his garage | May 08 01:03 |
| psydruid | didn't people have spines so as not to go along with the scam? | May 08 01:03 |
| matey | spines have a limited carrying capacity | May 08 01:04 |
| matey | the scam was a juggernaut | May 08 01:04 |
| matey | things like microsoft really follow the boiling frog metaphor | May 08 01:05 |
| psydruid | I'm thinking the lack of hardware freedom played a part as well | May 08 01:05 |
| matey | even if the story itself (the boiling frog) is bullshit | May 08 01:05 |
| matey | i mean in the 70s, hardware freedom was a thing | May 08 01:05 |
| matey | its how apple started | May 08 01:05 |
| matey | in the 70s, copyright couldnt be applied to software either (in the usa) | May 08 01:05 |
| matey | not until the early 80s | May 08 01:06 |
| activelow | berne convention and authors rights applied before | May 08 01:06 |
| activelow | still does | May 08 01:06 |
| matey | software was uncopyrightable | May 08 01:06 |
| activelow | what does that mean? authors have rights; with or without whatever you mean with copyright. | May 08 01:07 |
| matey | Many of the original members of the Homebrew Computer Club continue to meet (as of 2009[update]), having formed the 6800 Club, named after the Motorola (now Freescale) 6800 microprocessor | May 08 01:07 |
| matey | Occasionally and variously renamed after the release of the 6800, 6809, and other microprocessors, the group continues to meet monthly in Cupertino, California.[citation needed] | May 08 01:07 |
| matey | Most of the members were hobbyists but had an electronic engineering or computer programming background.[10] They came to the meetings to talk about the Altair 8800, to review other technical topics, and to exchange schematics and programming tips. | May 08 01:08 |
| psydruid | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE | May 08 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE | May 08 01:08 | |
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| matey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE | May 08 01:08 |
| matey | cool, i only know "smoke on the water" by them | May 08 01:09 |
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| techrights_guest|40 | ok | May 08 01:10 |
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| psydruid | I think I learned to play it way back | May 08 01:10 |
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| psydruid | "smoke on the water", that is | May 08 01:10 |
| psydruid | just a few parts, though | May 08 01:11 |
| matey | Felsenstein was one of the original members of the Homebrew Computer Club, which formed in 1975 in response to the appearance of the Altair 8800 computer kit. With a handy yardstick, Felsenstein "moderated" meetings at the SLAC Auditorium. He was less a chair than a keeper of chaos. | May 08 01:11 |
| matey | i like the idea of a moderator that keeps things chaotic | May 08 01:11 |
| matey | "excuse me, excuse me everyone-- could you keep the noise UP, please?" | May 08 01:12 |
| matey | /me would consider earplugs, but probably still like it more than some other meeting | May 08 01:12 |
| psydruid | LUGs seem as dead as UUGs were at some point | May 08 01:13 |
| matey | if i designed a computer club and it worked exactly as designed, id probably start with something like callahans crosstime saloon | May 08 01:13 |
| psydruid | but maybe that's because it's so easy to get it installed these days | May 08 01:14 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callahan%27s_Crosstime_Saloon | May 08 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Callahan's Crosstime Saloon - Wikipedia | May 08 01:14 | |
| matey | ive been to one, maybe two lugs ever | May 08 01:14 |
| matey | at one i got to touch an xo-1 :) | May 08 01:14 |
| psydruid | hardware should definitely play a part in a revival | May 08 01:15 |
| matey | worth the trip for that alone | May 08 01:15 |
| psydruid | of the concept at least | May 08 01:15 |
| matey | hardware should definitely play a part in a revival <- in more ways than one | May 08 01:15 |
| matey | regarding hardware, stallman is a damned fool | May 08 01:15 |
| matey | regarding software, hes one of the most important people in the history of computing | May 08 01:15 |
| matey | as long we dont mix up the two | May 08 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Would be a shame if anyone were to feed wtflen() an infinite iterator :) | May 08 01:16 |
| matey | i mean, there are cheaper ways to create an endless loop | May 08 01:16 |
| matey | >>> for p in range(10000000000): pass | May 08 01:19 |
| matey | OverflowError: range() result has too many items | May 08 01:19 |
| matey | >>> for p in range(1000000000): pass | May 08 01:19 |
| matey | Traceback (most recent call last): | May 08 01:19 |
| matey | MemoryError | May 08 01:19 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That feels like Python 2. | May 08 01:20 |
| matey | of course | May 08 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, because Python 3's range is Python 2's xrange? | May 08 01:20 |
| MinceR | try xrange then | May 08 01:20 |
| matey | but i imagine python3 has similar (if not identical) safeties | May 08 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Yes, but range() is an iterator. | May 08 01:20 |
| matey | werent we talking about iterators? | May 08 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | range() in Python 2 isn't. | May 08 01:21 |
| matey | ah ok | May 08 01:21 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164596 | May 08 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 08 01:21 | |
| matey | so xrange then | May 08 01:21 |
| matey | OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long | May 08 01:21 |
| matey | thats the first one | May 08 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That's weird, it should work fine. | May 08 01:22 |
| matey | 32bit | May 08 01:22 |
| XRevan86 | matey: It's not going to eat memory with xrange (range in Python 3) | May 08 01:22 |
| matey | the second one was using 100% of one core :) | May 08 01:22 |
| matey | in all instances memory usage didnt go up | May 08 01:23 |
| matey | but in the xrange one that didnt overflow, it started grabbing cpu | May 08 01:23 |
| matey | im pretty sure while 1: pass will do the same though | May 08 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Too efficient for your CPU :) | May 08 01:23 |
| matey | i was of course able to kill the process | May 08 01:23 |
| matey | thats not hard | May 08 01:24 |
| matey | i mean, nothing was being weird | May 08 01:24 |
| matey | but i didnt feel like playing a game of chicken with a system that has 200 days of uptime | May 08 01:24 |
| matey | and quite a few things open at the moment | May 08 01:25 |
| matey | (though the important ones are saved and synced im sure) | May 08 01:25 |
| matey | (this is not how i would prefer to test that) | May 08 01:25 |
| matey | ive got a laptop i could turn on and put up to this, but my curiosity is satisfied for the moment | May 08 01:26 |
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| DaemonFC | Someone on Reddit was complaining that Instacart pairs orders and they lugged 10 24 packs of water up to someone's apartment and that person didn't tip, and they thought it was the person who left them a $60 tip. | May 08 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Someone else said if there's an order with a ton of bottled water, most of the time, that's the lousy/no tip. | May 08 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Someone in Japan with Bitcomet. Well, that's an unusual peer. | May 08 01:43 |
| matey | they lugged 10 24 packs of water up to someone's apartment and that person didn't tip, and they thought it was the person who left them a $60 tip. | May 08 01:48 |
| matey | 10 24 packs? id buy them dinner. | May 08 01:48 |
| matey | when youre buying 10 24 packs of water, a saner option is a filter for the sink but | May 08 01:57 |
| matey | they probably thought of that and opted for the "convenience" of 240 separate bottles. | May 08 01:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▅▆▁▃▄▅▅▅▇▅▅▅▆▆▂▃▄▃▃▄▂▅▅▂▅█▂▃▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 24.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▂█▁▂▁▁▁▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁█▁▁█▁▁▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 72.86▕ swarm size (avg): 637.21 ⟲ | May 08 01:59 |
| matey | one for dr sixel: | May 08 02:03 |
| matey | from rob pike of unix (/google) fame | May 08 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Probably complaining about MARISOL. | May 08 02:04 |
| matey | "compile time 0.18 seconds..." (ibm 360 high speed job stream, 1970s, 1mhz machine) "run time 0.11 seconds..." "i have been waiting to get back to that speed of compile my entire career" | May 08 02:04 |
| matey | marisol, marisol, does whatever a marisol does | May 08 02:04 |
| matey | the legend of marisol would have made a highly amusing text adventure | May 08 02:05 |
| matey | you must collect apple airbuds at some point in the game | May 08 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Hey kid....want some truck water? | May 08 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 02:05 |
| matey | especially if you dont need them and cant afford them | May 08 02:05 |
| matey | "the stuff they had for doing high speed work on the 360, in my opinion is unparalleled ever since"-- rob pike | May 08 02:07 |
| techrights-news | Plasma Desktop in Latest KDE Neon (State-of-the-Art Plasma) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/ | May 08 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Plasma Desktop in Latest KDE Neon (State-of-the-Art Plasma) | Techrights | May 08 02:07 | |
| matey | he doesnt say hes a fan except of the compiler speed | May 08 02:08 |
| matey | "back then [1975] you needed an ACCOUNT if you wanted to use the computer with more resources" | May 08 02:09 |
| matey | yeah, about that... | May 08 02:09 |
| matey | anyway, he got about $100 of "free" computing time from his professor | May 08 02:11 |
| matey | redid his program to print out graphics | May 08 02:11 |
| *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) | May 08 02:11 | |
| matey | showed the professor, who then escourted him to the graphics lab with a pdp-11/45 and some kind of graphics terminal | May 08 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | I've finally got my black and white cat trained to hop up on the couch or bed when I tap on it. | May 08 02:12 |
| matey | a dec gt40 | May 08 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | Just like a dog. | May 08 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | That only took six years. | May 08 02:12 |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and Arduino Articles • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164597 | May 08 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and Arduino Articles | Tux Machines | May 08 02:12 | |
| matey | "this (late 70s) framebuffer was 256x256 by 8 bits" | May 08 02:14 |
| matey | and the first raster graphics terminal he had seen | May 08 02:14 |
| matey | why 256x256x8? | May 08 02:15 |
| matey | "that is the complete address space of the pdp-11" | May 08 02:15 |
| matey | so you could basically show the state of the entire machine graphically | May 08 02:15 |
| matey | and i guess buffering the image made very little sense too :) just write it | May 08 02:16 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164598 | May 08 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 08 02:17 | |
| techrights-news | KDE Neon had a new release this past Thursday; I’ve decided to show what OS I tinker with these days (GNU/Linux at the cutting/bleeding edge) http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/ | May 08 02:21 |
| techrights-news | Wrong thing to board about: "passed the milestone of more than 100 patents filed globally, spanning four continents and more than 10 countries." https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220418005594/en/AEye-Opens-Munich-Office-Appoints-Technical-Sales-Director-for-Europe | May 08 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | AEye Opens Munich Office, Appoints Technical Sales Director for Europe | Business Wire | May 08 02:22 | |
| techrights-news | Python Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164599 | May 08 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 02:22 | |
| techrights-news | WTH is "HEY HI"? This is just patent propaganda. "Korean HEY HI lagging... blah blah legal protection" (link omitted) | May 08 02:24 |
| techrights-news | Software Patents: "The '727 patent generally relates to a taxi trip meter system that includes a taximeter and a location sensor connected to a computer" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/3/2000-for-fare-technologies-prior-art | May 08 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Fare Technologies prior art — Unified Patents | May 08 02:24 | |
| techrights-news | Software Patents: "The '876 patent relates to a route guidance system for vehicles." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/6/2000-for-prior-art-on-equitable-ip-entity-route-guidance-system-patent | May 08 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for prior art on Equitable IP entity, Route Guidance System patent — Unified Patents | May 08 02:25 | |
| techrights-news | Software Patents: "dynamic computer system security method using dynamic encryption and full synchronization" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/6/2000-for-prior-art-on-ip-edge-entity-moxchange | May 08 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for prior art on IP Edge entity, Moxchange — Unified Patents | May 08 02:26 | |
| matey | customs security guy in the late 70s early 80s, suspicious of software which is suddenly becoming important "whats in the bag?" | May 08 02:26 |
| matey | rob pike "oh its a computer disk" | May 08 02:26 |
| matey | customs "well is it software?" | May 08 02:26 |
| matey | rob pike "no, its just computer programs" | May 08 02:26 |
| matey | customs "ok, you can go then" :) | May 08 02:27 |
| techrights-news | Greenwashing garbage for companies that break the law. Fake 'studies' and totally laughable junk https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vmware-joins-green-software-foundation-140110417.html http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware | May 08 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | VMware Joins the Green Software Foundation | May 08 02:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | VMware - Techrights | May 08 02:28 | |
| matey | so he worked at bell labs in 1980 and then later went to google | May 08 02:28 |
| matey | bell labs had metal walls on the labs :) | May 08 02:29 |
| matey | to contain any explosions | May 08 02:29 |
| techrights-news | How to give a bad name to Gentoo: call a reckless company in northeast England after gentoos https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-61007474 also: This is BillBC, which covered up for Jimmy Savile, whom it knew was raping little kids. Now BillBC does the same for Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein, albeit FOR PROFIT. | May 08 02:30 |
| matey | i think in the 80s, microsoft probably needed that more than bell labs did | May 08 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sunderland explosion: Man charged with criminal damage - BBC News | May 08 02:30 | |
| techrights-news | At Watchroll now they have "Software Claiming – A Look at Means-Plus-Function"... openly and shamelessly promoting... Software Patents. EPO mimics USPTO because some patent offices have been hijacked by crooks and their middlemen. USPTO is now run by Microsoft Vidal, who supports Software Patents. | May 08 02:32 |
| techrights-news | This crazy world where you can carve yourself a monopoly on maths https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=cba7888e-8f64-4946-b4d1-4d62a7060e7b | May 08 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Part II - Strategies in Response to Non-Obviousness Requirements for Mechanical and Software Patents in the United States, China, Europe and Taiwan - Lexology | May 08 02:33 | |
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| techrights-news | FOSS Patents: Ericsson says Apple 'walk[ed] back its agreement to accept Ericsson's [5G patent licensing] offer if it is confirmed as FRAND' by Texas court ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/ericsson-says-apple-walked-back-its.html ䷉ Source: fosspatents | May 08 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Ericsson says Apple 'walk[ed] back its agreement to accept Ericsson's [5G patent licensing] offer if it is confirmed as FRAND' by Texas court | May 08 02:34 | |
| techrights-news | "SPONSORED FEATURE"... this is what El Reg has been reduced to: advertorials. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/origina_reduced_ibm_software_maintenance_bills/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ | May 08 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Origina: We can cut your IBM software maintenance bills in half • The Register | May 08 02:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights | May 08 02:35 | |
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| techrights-news | Taiwan's litigation lobby hobbling and curtailing the country's own industry https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3e7a55bc-c78a-41d1-883e-073d730f9bf7 | May 08 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Patent Examination Guidelines for Computer Software-Related Inventions - Lexology | May 08 02:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | I need to get my glasses. I read that as hell labs. | May 08 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Satan: "What new things do you have for me today!?" | May 08 02:38 |
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| techrights-news | "Spartan protocol is simpler than Gemini protocol and does not use TLS. This makes it significantly less computationally expensive and thus friendlier to very old machines." gemini://lyk.so/small-internet/spartan/ | May 08 02:39 |
| techrights-news | "I am aware that the Gemini mailing list is currently down. The list admin has informed me that this is due to a hardware failure, and that they are working to restore it. There is no ETA yet. I have local copies of all the list traffic so nothing is likely to have been lost forever. Please be patient!" gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/gemini-mailing-list-down.gmi | May 08 02:40 |
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| techrights-news | "server authors have a way to communicate to clients that they should slow down: status 44. And they have a way to communicate to bots which URLs not to request via /robots.txt." gemini://transjovian.org/gemini/page/Dealing%20with%20bots | May 08 02:41 |
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| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-05-07.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-05-07.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | May 08 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Before going to sleep, I'll just throw this at you: | May 08 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | > for i, _ in enumerate(p): continue | May 08 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | > return i + 1 | May 08 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | -1 line. | May 08 02:46 |
| MinceR | len(p) | May 08 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Amazing simplicity and efficiency :) | May 08 02:48 |
| matey | <MinceR> len(p) <- it cant be done! | May 08 02:49 |
| activelow | reminds me of an issue with abduco session manager... which does not track clientIDs for individual disconnect | May 08 02:49 |
| matey | XRevan86 ive used enumerate about twice | May 08 02:49 |
| matey | its a good design, it has my respect | May 08 02:49 |
| XRevan86 | There's also functools.reduce which can simplify further, but it's an import. | May 08 02:49 |
| activelow | because, i want an option for a single-client connect, similar to tmux | May 08 02:49 |
| matey | but whenever i would use it, im thinking about something else instead | May 08 02:50 |
| matey | so it never gets used-- it is still a good design | May 08 02:50 |
| matey | but its basically len() which i guess is the point | May 08 02:50 |
| matey | my (openly silly) example shows how len works, sort of, in a way that is both misleading but easy to explain | May 08 02:50 |
| matey | while enumerate is probably more efficient but also misleading (and also redundant, as is mine, comically so) and completely opaque | May 08 02:51 |
| matey | all of its useless, all of its fun | May 08 02:51 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Except that len rarely works that way in Python, but ye have pointed this out yourself. | May 08 02:51 |
| matey | here are the (comical) pros and cons | May 08 02:51 |
| matey | yes i pointed out that it would be redundant for len to work that way :) tautological even | May 08 02:52 |
| matey | like saying "god is all powerful and created everything else" | May 08 02:52 |
| matey | ive never seen machine code for len, and i can still say with some confidence it works nothing like these examples | May 08 02:52 |
| matey | because the language should know what the length of a variable is, and thats what len should return | May 08 02:53 |
| matey | these programs either measure it, which is silly | May 08 02:53 |
| matey | or they return the same value by similar means | May 08 02:53 |
| matey | none are implementations, theyre either synonyms or misdirections :) | May 08 02:53 |
| matey | still, its FUN to show that you can "sort of" implement in len in other ways | May 08 02:53 |
| matey | as long as you dont tell people "see? this is how it works" | May 08 02:54 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Heard of __len__? | May 08 02:54 |
| matey | whats it do :) i rarely dabble with the underscored stuff | May 08 02:54 |
| matey | /me uses python as a step up from shell scripts, while some people use it as a step down from some international space station development environment | May 08 02:55 |
| matey | python is a LOT more powerful than anything i use it for. | May 08 02:55 |
| matey | by more than one order of magnitude i figure | May 08 02:55 |
| matey | though what is use for is pretty close to its predecessor which inspired python | May 08 02:56 |
| matey | the precessor of python: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(programming_language) | May 08 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ABC (programming language) - Wikipedia | May 08 02:57 | |
| matey | predecessor | May 08 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | matey: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#object.__len__ | May 08 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.python.org | 3. Data model — Python 3.10.4 documentation | May 08 02:57 | |
| matey | "ABC had a major influence on the design of the language Python, developed by Guido van Rossum, who formerly worked for several years on the ABC system in the mid-1980s." | May 08 02:58 |
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| matey | <XRevan86> matey: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#object.__len__ <- lol | May 08 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | And that's how len() *actually* works. | May 08 03:00 |
| matey | "nel blu dipinto di blu" | May 08 03:01 |
| matey | And that's how len() *actually* works. <- no, its just the interface that len calls | May 08 03:01 |
| matey | unless you can print it and get the code somehow | May 08 03:01 |
| matey | which maybe you can, but | May 08 03:01 |
| matey | it certainly doesnt SAY SO there in the paragraph | May 08 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | matey: But odds are the method will just get a stored value and give it out. | May 08 03:02 |
| matey | i guessed that much | May 08 03:02 |
| matey | i mean theres source code available for cpython | May 08 03:02 |
| matey | so that is how it actually works | May 08 03:02 |
| matey | "But odds are the method will just get a stored value and give it out." <- and i agree, and that was my guess too | May 08 03:03 |
| matey | thats how pascal does it | May 08 03:03 |
| matey | afaik c uses a nul character | May 08 03:03 |
| matey | which i think is hateful, but its certainly efficient | May 08 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | "afaik" <- It definitely does. | May 08 03:04 |
| XRevan86 | Not particularly efficient. | May 08 03:04 |
| matey | /me is partial to pascal strings, but not to pascal itself | May 08 03:04 |
| XRevan86 | It's the bane of C's existence. | May 08 03:04 |
| matey | yes! | May 08 03:04 |
| techrights-news | In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, ’Microsoft’ Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | May 08 03:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, ‘Microsoft’ Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights | May 08 03:05 | |
| matey | sometimes even the gods fuck up | May 08 03:05 |
| matey | i think c strings was one of those | May 08 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | matey: A lot of security specialists will agree. | May 08 03:06 |
| techrights-news | We're just 4 weeks away now from the 18th birthday of Tux Machines http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ | May 08 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tux Machines is 17.5 Years Old Today | Techrights | May 08 03:07 | |
| matey | whereas i simply think theyre inconvenient, and dislike them for that reason | May 08 03:07 |
| matey | but im sure if i dabbled more in security it wouldnt take me long to find a second reason to hate them | May 08 03:07 |
| matey | it sort of sounds like a recipe for "build your own overflow" | May 08 03:07 |
| matey | or a big bullseye for an overflow that says "AIM HERE!" | May 08 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 94402 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 40499 • Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 28 days ago | May 08 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 42 GB • TotalOut: 9.0 GB | May 08 03:09 |
| techrights-news | This Week in Linux 197: Firefox 100, WINE Bottles, Tails 5.0, Unity Desktop, Ubuntu and more Linux news! - TuxDigital ⚓ https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-197/ ䷉ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux | May 08 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-197: Firefox 100, WINE Bottles, Tails 5.0, Unity Desktop, Ubuntu and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital | May 08 03:09 | |
| XRevan86 | matey: The fun thing is that nul doesn't have to even exist. | May 08 03:10 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | May 08 03:10 |
| matey | /me is watching a video from rob pike where he talks about how in the early 80s, hello world in c didnt have int or void on main() and before that, didnt even include stdio but used printf anyway | May 08 03:10 |
| matey | of course in version 6 unix i think stdio didnt exist yet | May 08 03:10 |
| matey | so including it would be somewhat delusional (or VERY VERY advanced) | May 08 03:10 |
| matey | in version 5 it did not exist yet | May 08 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | And that can break code in such a way that gives back parts of memory to the right of the string. | May 08 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | Very exploitable. | May 08 03:11 |
| techrights-news | "No greenwashing, thank you, I already use GNU/Linux..." https://www.makeuseof.com/ways-linux-reduces-ewaste/ no ads (brainwash) either, no temptation for needless, wasteful consumption | May 08 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How Does Linux Help Reduce E-Waste? | May 08 03:11 | |
| matey | though at least now we have mitigations (and if you think i trust those to the ends of the earth, i dont) | May 08 03:11 |
| techrights-news | Based on StatCounter, Microsoft’s Edge market share fell every month this year. Microsoft Edge’s share, all versions combined, from January to May: 4.12%, 4.06%, 4.05%, 4.05%, and 4.04%. http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | May 08 03:12 |
| XRevan86 | matey: C has implicit int. | May 08 03:12 |
| XRevan86 | It's highly deprecated, but it's there. | May 08 03:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | who you call a c**? | May 08 03:12 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmRQVhGpsKDNmkjNUW1AkVeznhpmY4wAGbjRcBeWH1qdd2 | May 08 03:12 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | May 08 03:12 |
| XRevan86 | If main() doesn't have int or void, it has int, but it's implicit. | May 08 03:13 |
| matey | c sells csh by the c shore | May 08 03:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | xi sells | May 08 03:13 |
| matey | i dont know their preferred pronoun | May 08 03:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | bears are "it" | May 08 03:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | pooh the bear is he | May 08 03:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | xi is she | May 08 03:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but only audibly | May 08 03:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | gn | May 08 03:14 |
| matey | that actually reminds me of the lyrics to tom lehrers imaginary version of gilbert and sullivans take on oh my darling clementine | May 08 03:15 |
| XRevan86 | > and before that, didnt even include stdio but used printf anyway | May 08 03:15 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Huh, never heard of that quirk. | May 08 03:16 |
| matey | well it stands to reason | May 08 03:17 |
| matey | to include stdio, stdio must exist | May 08 03:17 |
| matey | and and stdio was a feature of version 7 at the earliest | May 08 03:17 |
| matey | and rob pike was using version 6 unix | May 08 03:17 |
| matey | in version 6 they had started standardising io but | May 08 03:18 |
| matey | it was version 7 where they really had the most reason to do so | May 08 03:18 |
| matey | why include it if the os doesnt have it? | May 08 03:18 |
| matey | i mean it wasnt part of the design yet | May 08 03:18 |
| matey | and pipes > originally > looked like this > | May 08 03:19 |
| matey | but then they must have decided that was crazy | and switched | to this | May 08 03:19 |
| matey | but for pipes to work, io had to be standard | May 08 03:20 |
| techrights-news | Real Madrid made it to CL final many times, and moreover won many times. Aston Villa did both before. But if both reach the CL final and play one another, you can finally say Villareal made it to the final of CL, not just semis like this year. | May 08 03:20 |
| matey | and for unix to be unix, it has to have pipes | May 08 03:20 |
| matey | so imo unix wasnt even REALLY unix until version 7 | May 08 03:20 |
| matey | but the history is interesting all the same | May 08 03:20 |
| matey | there was some other form of ipc that competed with pipes in version 5 or 6 | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | it never caught on and came from some big company like hp or something | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | "But I love she, and she loves me | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | And raptured are the both of we | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | Yes, I love she and she loves I | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | And will through all eterni-ty! | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | " | May 08 03:21 |
| matey | tom lehrer poking at gilbert and sullivan | May 08 03:22 |
| matey | he might not hate them, he had a go at cole porter too | May 08 03:23 |
| matey | im not a fan of googlers of course | May 08 03:26 |
| matey | but the book rob pike wrote with brian kernighan (and im a huge fan of kernighan, he didnt just write awk but hes sort of the author of hello world) | May 08 03:27 |
| matey | dennis ritchie told him to write it | May 08 03:27 |
| matey | the unix programming environment | May 08 03:27 |
| matey | rob pike sent an email to ritchie and kernighan saying please please write this, its an important book | May 08 03:28 |
| matey | and ritchie went to his office and said "why dont you write it" | May 08 03:28 |
| matey | so he did, with kernighan | May 08 03:28 |
| matey | "its full of in-jokes that almost nobody gets, but that makes them even better" | May 08 03:29 |
| matey | "doug mcilroy the smartest person youve never heard of" rob pike | May 08 03:29 |
| matey | i know who he is. hes the person who did unix pipes. | May 08 03:30 |
| matey | a candidate for my favourite programmer in all of history | May 08 03:31 |
| matey | though parts of the idea surely predate his implementation | May 08 03:31 |
| matey | pipes are wasteful in terms of efficiency, and sometimes i redo things to avoid them | May 08 03:32 |
| matey | and even most of the things i do to avoid them are absolutely designed in a way they inspired | May 08 03:32 |
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| activelow | dirty hack... nonetheless, abduco session manager got session timeout now, and optional single-client-attach | May 08 04:06 |
| activelow | re-iterating over the idea, a socket exposing the entire session ... at least i'll notice, if something happens | May 08 04:08 |
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| AdmFubar | no they got it right https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/trend-micro-antivirus-modified-windows-registry-by-mistake-how-to-fix/ | May 08 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Trend Micro antivirus modified Windows registry by mistake — How to fix | May 08 05:21 | |
| AdmFubar | :)) https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/scammer-infects-own-machine-reveals-true-identity | May 08 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Scammer Infects His Own Machine with Spyware, Reveals True Identity | May 08 05:25 | |
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| matey | The preferred way of contributing patches to Quassel is via our repository on Github. Simply fork the repository and then make pull requests. | May 08 05:29 |
| AdmFubar | https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/05/07/0348254/is-plastic-recycling-a-myth?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | May 08 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | Is Plastic Recycling a Myth? - Slashdot | May 08 05:35 | |
| AdmFubar | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/05/07/022206/millions-of-russians-are-tearing-holes-in-the-digital-iron-curtain-using-vpns?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | May 08 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Millions of Russians are 'Tearing Holes in the Digital Iron Curtain' Using VPNs - Slashdot | May 08 05:35 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rechargeable-molten-salt-battery-freezes-energy-in-place-for-long-term-storage/ | May 08 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scientificamerican.com | Rechargeable Molten Salt Battery Freezes Energy in Place for Long-Term Storage - Scientific American | May 08 05:37 | |
| AdmFubar | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/stung-by-3-court-losses-isps-stop-fighting-california-net-neutrality-law/ | May 08 05:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Stung by 3 court losses, ISPs stop fighting California net neutrality law | Ars Technica | May 08 05:38 | |
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| darwin | i bought an Eaton uninterruptible power supply (UPS)... Eaton PowerWare took over from Best Power, who used to make the top-quality ferroresonant pure sinewave UPSs... but this Eaton one isn't even turning on :( They are a main company that contributes to the Free/Libre Software (FLS) Network UPS Tools so I wanted to try them | May 08 07:35 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, May 07, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | May 08 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | May 08 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | May 08 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 08 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, ’Microsoft’ Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | May 08 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, ‘Microsoft’ Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights | May 08 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | "Wine is the compatibility layer that allows you to run games and applications developed for Windows - on Linux (plus also macOS and BSD)" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/wine-78-is-out-now-with-x11-and-oss-drivers-converted-to-pe/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 08 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 7.8 is out now with X11 and OSS drivers converted to PE | GamingOnLinux | May 08 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Germany based ICP has launched a compact PC based on Intel’s processors (11th Gen Intel Core & Celeron) for DIN rail use" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-pc-with-four-2-5gbe-lan-dual-display-and-pcie-x4-slot/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | May 08 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-pc-with-four-2-5gbe-lan-dual-display-and-pcie-x4-slot/ ) | May 08 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | ">Radxa recently unveiled details about their newest SBC (Single Board Computer) Rock Pi 4 C+. At first sight" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/radxa-offers-affordable-rock-pi-4-c-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3399-t-processor/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | May 08 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/radxa-offers-affordable-rock-pi-4-c-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3399-t-processor/ ) | May 08 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | old: US Patent for Methods and systems for providing FIDO authentication services Patent (Patent # 10,917,405 issued February 9, 2021) - Justia Patents Search ⚓ https://patents.justia.com/patent/10917405 ䷉ Source: patents | May 08 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.justia.com | US Patent for Methods and systems for providing FIDO authentication services Patent (Patent # 10,917,405 issued February 9, 2021) - Justia Patents Search | May 08 08:14 | |
| techrights-news | David Walden, Computer Scientist at Dawn of Internet, Dies at 79 - The New York Times ⚓ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/technology/david-walden-dead.html ䷉ Source: nytimes | May 08 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | David Walden, Computer Scientist at Dawn of Internet, Dies at 79 - The New York Times | May 08 08:14 | |
| techrights-news | GNU Radio Amplitude Modulation ⚓ https://odysee.com/@TallPaulTech:b/gnu-radio-amplitude-modulation:f ䷉ Source: TallPaulTech | May 08 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | GNU Radio Amplitude Modulation | May 08 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | old: How criminals like Bill Gates bribe those who are meant to write about the crimes https://www.projectcensored.org/state-of-the-billionaire-press-concerns-over-media-objectivity-after-bill-gates-gives-319-million-to-news-outlets/ | May 08 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/state-of-the-billionaire-press-concerns-over-media-objectivity-after-bill-gates-gives-319-million-to-news-outlets/ ) | May 08 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | Social control media ruins you https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-05/a-week-off-social-media-reduces-depression-and-anxiety-research?sref=E9Urfma4 | May 08 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | May 08 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | "In preparing some data for another upcoming blog post, I needed to convert a list of fully qualified GitHub repository names " ☛ https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/06/converting-strings-to-objects-with-jq/ | Source: DJ Adams | May 08 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qmacro.org | Converting strings to objects with jq | DJ Adams | May 08 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | "I came across a great article via lobsters recently: Introducing zq: an Easier (and Faster) Alternative to jq." ☛ https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/02/some-thoughts-on-jq-and-statelessness/ | Source: DJ Adams | May 08 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qmacro.org | Some thoughts on jq and statelessness | DJ Adams | May 08 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | "In our 2003 SOSP "Best Paper" Preserving Peer Replicas By Rate-Limited Sampled Voting (also here, expanded version here) we introduced a number of concepts." ☛ https://blog.dshr.org/2022/05/probabilistic-fault-tolerance.html | Source: David Rosenthal | May 08 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Probabilistic Fault Tolerance | May 08 08:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Similar to how the International Space Station maintains its orientation" ☛ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/05/this-gyroscopic-stabilizer-aims-to-reduce-boat-roll-in-waves/ | Source: Arduino | May 08 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This gyroscopic stabilizer aims to reduce boat roll in waves | Arduino Blog | May 08 08:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Half of the sites on the [Internet] are so overloaded with tracking scripts, ads, third-party "analytics" platforms" ☛ https://flower.codes/2022/03/23/backwards-compatibility.html | | May 08 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Build an Absurdly Backwards Compatible Website | flower.codes | May 08 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | "At first Fig presents itself as just an auto-complete tool and, don't get me wrong, if that is all you are looking for" ☛ https://matduggan.com/fig-terminal-autocomplete-review/ | | May 08 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matduggan.com | Fig Terminal Auto-complete Review | May 08 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | "This blog post documents my understanding of how the conventions for Unix command line syntax have evolved over time" ☛ https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2022/05/07/unix-cli/ | Source: Lars Wirzenius | May 08 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | Unix command line conventions over time | May 08 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | <li> | May 08 08:21 |
| techrights-news | "Another Exercism Bash track exercise, another opportunity to learn from the community solutions." ☛ https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/04/17/bash-notes-3/ | Source: DJ Adams | May 08 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qmacro.org | Bash notes 3 | DJ Adams | May 08 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | "I looked at a couple of more solutions to another Exercism exercise in the Bash track - Scrabble Score." ☛ https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/04/10/bash-notes-2/ | Source: DJ Adams | May 08 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qmacro.org | Bash notes 2 | DJ Adams | May 08 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | "I completed a very basic solution to the Proverb exercise in the Bash track on Exercism" ☛ https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/04/07/bash-notes/ | Source: DJ Adams | May 08 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qmacro.org | Bash notes | DJ Adams | May 08 08:22 | |
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| techrights-news | "According to court documents, the current group of claimants has spent a total of 2,742 days in jail or prison because of false arrests." ☛ https://www.thestreet.com/investing/heres-why-you-might-get-arrested-for-renting-from-hertz | Source: The Street | May 08 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here’s Why You Might Get Arrested For Renting From Hertz - TheStreet | May 08 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Their experiences may be the tip of a large iceberg. Hertz acknowledges that it files some 3,500 theft reports per year on customers" ☛ https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-14/renting-a-car-from-hertz-you-could-wind-up-in-jail | Source: Los Angeles Times | May 08 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Hiltzik: Hertz customers face the risk of arrest - Los Angeles Times | May 08 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "When talking to rental company, document everything" ☛ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2022/03/04/rental-car-consumer-rights/9365841002/ | Source: Gannett | May 08 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Rental cars: Some Hertz customers face arrest. What are your rights? | May 08 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | "happen only after exhaustive attempts to reach the customer." ☛ https://www.thedrive.com/news/44327/hertz-customer-arrested-for-rental-theft-a-year-after-the-car-was-returned-report | Source: The Drive | May 08 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedrive.com | Hertz Customer Thrown in Jail for Rental Car 'Theft' a Year After He Returned It: Report | May 08 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Hertz refuses to correct a police report when they've learned payments [were] made, when they've learned the car's been returned" ☛ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hertz-car-rental-customer-arrested-new-hampshire/ | Source: CBS | May 08 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | New Hampshire man arrested aboard cruise ship is latest to be accused of stealing Hertz rental car: "Most horrific experience of my life" - CBS News | May 08 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | "The issue, which is being investigated by several US senators" ☛ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/hertz-stolen-rental-car-reports-senate-investigation-called-for/ | Source: CNET | May 08 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Senators Call for Investigation of Hertz Stolen Vehicle Reports - CNET | May 08 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | "Califf’s position could mean the FDA takes a stronger stance on COVID misinformation" ☛ https://futurism.com/neoscope/fda-head-misinformation-leading-cause-death-covid-pandemic | Source: Futurism (which helps oover up for high-profile pedophiles, a sort of reputation laundering for money) | May 08 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Head of FDA Says Misinformation Is Now the Leading Cause of Death | May 08 08:28 | |
| techrights-news | "I believe that misinformation is now our leading cause of death" ☛ https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2022/04/fda-commissioner-califf-sounds-the-alarm-on-health-misinformation-at-ahcj/ | | May 08 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-healthjournalism.org | FDA Commissioner Califf sounds the alarm on health misinformation | Association of Health Care Journalists | May 08 08:29 | |
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| techrights-news | "Why do I have so many "old" Apple computers, you ask? Because Apple builds exceptionally durable machines" ☛ http://flower.codes/2022/04/10/planned-obsolescence.html | | May 08 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 308 @ http://flower.codes/2022/04/10/planned-obsolescence.html ) | May 08 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | "YouTube Go, an app providing offline video access, will be shutting down in August." ☛ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ | Source: Digital Music News | May 08 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ ) | May 08 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | "focus on the most meaningful experiences" ☛ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/03/facebook-podcasts-shutting-down-in-june/ | Source: Digital Music News | May 08 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalmusicnews.com | Facebook Is Abruptly Shutting Down Podcasts | May 08 08:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Real reason: MS had a deal in place with Novell to include some handling of Novell Netware client drive mappings." ☛ https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/83538.html | | May 08 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org | liam_on_linux | The real reason that the first version of Windows NT was called 3.1 | May 08 08:34 | |
| techrights-news | "If we were to discuss simplicity only in the terms of overall size of the code, and define ‘malware’" ☛ https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28620 | Source: SANS | May 08 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center | May 08 08:35 | |
| techrights-news | "the phishing campaign was first detected in October" ☛ https://siliconangle.com/2022/05/04/uks-national-health-service-infected-massive-phishing-campaign/ | Source: Silicon Angle | May 08 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK's National Health Service infected by massive phishing campaign - SiliconANGLE | May 08 08:35 | |
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| techrights-news | "But the rise of retail investigators raises civil liberties and privacy concerns, experts say." ☛ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/secret-surveillance-mining-customer-data-retailers-help-bag-shopliftin-rcna22259 | Source: NBC | May 08 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Secret surveillance, mining customer data: How retailers help bag shoplifting kingpins | May 08 08:36 | |
| techrights-news | "Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not against the existence of smartphones" ☛ https://flower.codes/2022/05/02/i-hate-my-smartphone.html | | May 08 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Hate My Smartphone | flower.codes | May 08 08:37 | |
| techrights-news | "EU Commission will present an EU draft law on mandatory chat control" ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-eu-commission-presents-mass-surveillance-plan-on-may-11/ | Source: Patrick Breyer | May 08 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11 – Patrick Breyer | May 08 08:37 | |
| techrights-news | "how authentication decisions will be made." ☛ https://restofworld.org/2022/where-anonymity-on-twitter-is-a-matter-of-life-or-death/ | | May 08 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-restofworld.org | Why Elon Musk’s ambition to have Twitter “authenticate all real humans” will get people killed - Rest of World | May 08 08:37 | |
| techrights-news | "Some improvement is possible in Passport without violating the system's goals of supporting unmodified browsers" ☛ https://www.cs.jhu.edu/~rubin/courses/sp03/papers/passport.pdf | | May 08 08:38 |
| techrights-news | "Divers like Sides take their roles as amateur investigators seriously." ☛ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/youtube-scuba-diver-jeremy-sides-adventure-purpose-1340457/ | Source: Rolling Stone | May 08 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | YouTube Scuba Divers Are Solving Cold Cases -- And Racking Up Views - Rolling Stone | May 08 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | Melinda "called Gates out for his relationship with Epstein" ☛ https://futurism.com/the-byte/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-bad-idea | Source: Futurism | May 08 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Bill Gates Says It Was a Bad Idea to Pal Around With Jeffrey Epstein | May 08 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | "A final decision on whether the men will be extradited now sits with Justice Minister Kris Faafoi" ☛ https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/127354588/final-supreme-court-ruling-clears-path-for-decision-on-kim-dotcom-extradition | Source: Suff NZ | May 08 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Final Supreme Court ruling clears path for decision on Kim Dotcom extradition | Stuff.co.nz | May 08 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | "The judges don't always agree either" ☛ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/empathy-critical-to-role-says-retiring-supreme-court-judge/DJ7PIKYBD6KRE4XMHOFKNLRGA4/ | Source: New Zealand Herald | May 08 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | Empathy 'critical' to role, says retiring Supreme Court judge - NZ Herald | May 08 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | "The arrests were on behalf of the FBI, which was carrying out a worldwide operation targeting Megaupload." ☛ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kim-dotcom-set-to-father-sixth-child-first-with-new-wife-liz/ZNVMUMTMOQVYVCPZ5EFO3HWPOI/ | Source: New Zealand Herald | May 08 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | Kim Dotcom set to father sixth child, first with new wife Liz - NZ Herald | May 08 08:44 | |
| techrights-news | "New footage has come out of the raid on Kim's home" ☛ https://www.businessinsider.com/new-footage-shows-just-how-crazy-the-kim-dotcom-raid-was-2012-8 | Source: Business Insider | May 08 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | New Footage Shows Just How Crazy the Kim Dotcom Raid Was | May 08 08:44 | |
| techrights-news | "The raid was part of a worldwide FBI operation to take down Dotcom's Megaupload" ☛ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dotcom-wins-settlement-from-police-over-the-2012-dawn-raid-which-saw-him-arrested/2EGYXEM64SKGMYHJPZ23QNIRO4/ | Source: New Zealand Herald | May 08 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | Dotcom wins settlement from police over the 2012 dawn raid which saw him arrested - NZ Herald | May 08 08:45 | |
| techrights-news | "Usage on social media platforms hasn’t necessarily slowed over time" (it DID!) ☛ https://variety.com/vip/social-media-slowdown-tests-investors-loyalty-1235259462/ | Source: Variety | May 08 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Social Media Slowdown Tests Investors' Loyalty - Variety | May 08 08:45 | |
| techrights-news | "Despite saying it was targeting only news outlets, the company deployed an algorithm for deciding what pages to take down" ☛ https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-deliberately-caused-havoc-in-australia-to-influence-new-law-whistleblowers-say-11651768302 | Source: The Wall Street Journal | May 08 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Deliberately Caused Havoc in Australia to Influence New Law, Whistleblowers Say - WSJ | May 08 08:45 | |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D582.jpg | May 08 08:46 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D225.jpg | May 08 08:47 |
| techrights-news | So I Installed Arch on My Work Mac gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-05-07-so-i-installed-arch-on-my-work-mac.gmi | May 08 08:47 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164600 | May 08 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 08 08:48 | |
| techrights-news | A Critique of Lagrange gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-05-07-critique-of-lagrange.gmi "This is not a full review of Lagrange, but rather discussing one specific aspect of it. My intention here is to start a conversation." | May 08 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "Jokes can make us grimace and squirm as we laugh...or don't." ☛ https://text.npr.org/1097329698 | Source: NPR | May 08 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Opinion: For comedians, safety is a growing concern | May 08 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | "There was no text; no pictures; just an explanation." ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-journalists-flee-law-1.6397505 | Source: CBC | May 08 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | 'Fake news' law forced many Russian journalists abroad. Those who remain must weigh truth against safety | CBC News | May 08 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | "The World Wide Web turned 33 last month" ☛ https://restofworld.org/2022/newsletter-south-asia-the-real-cost-of-internet-shutdowns-in-south-asia/ | | May 08 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-restofworld.org | The real cost of internet shutdowns in South Asia - Rest of World | May 08 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | "This article is not about Julian Assange as a person" ☛ https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/04/25/why-has-julian-assange-lost-in-the-high-court-where-lauri-love-won-and-what-could-this-mean-for-journalism/ | | May 08 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedomnews.org.uk | Why has Julian Assange lost in the High Court, where Lauri Love won, and what could this mean for Journalism? – Freedom News | May 08 08:52 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▄▅▁▅▅▆▁▄▂▅▃▃▄▅▃▄▂▂▂▃▇▄▂▁▂▂▃▃▄▅▁▁▂▃▅▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 15.15 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▁█▁▂▁▁█▁█▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▃▁▁█▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 61.55▕ swarm size (avg): 401.76 ⟲ | May 08 08:59 |
| techrights-news | "In a sign that federal labor officials are closely scrutinizing management behavior during union campaigns" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/06/business/economy/nlrb-amazon-starbucks.html | Source: New York Times | May 08 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | NLRB Finds Merit in Union Accusations Against Amazon and Starbucks - The New York Times | May 08 08:59 | |
| techrights-news | "The firings, which occurred outside the company’s typical employee review cycle" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/06/technology/amazon-fires-managers-union-staten-island.html | Source: New York Times | May 08 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Amazon Fires Senior Managers Tied to Unionized Staten Island Warehouse - The New York Times | May 08 09:00 | |
| techrights-news | "As Wi-Fi is deployed more widely in cities, and perhaps at higher frequencies, it may depend on an abundant urban asset: streetlight poles." ☛ https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/05/wi-fi-may-be-coming-soon-lamppost-near-you More spying enabled "passively" (network scanning) | May 08 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nist.gov | Wi-Fi May Be Coming Soon to a Lamppost Near You | NIST | May 08 09:03 | |
| techrights-news | "Although Xbox seemed to resolve these problems, it looks like issues with its store, digital titles, and Cloud Gaming have started to resurface." ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/7/23061588/xbox-having-more-issues-affecting-cloud-gaming-digital-titles | Source: The Verge | May 08 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | An Xbox outage is preventing some players from launching digital titles - The Verge | May 08 09:03 | |
| techrights-news | Threat to privacy and not necessarily better security, either. Imperialistic agenda. ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/05/your-phone-may-soon-replace-many-of-your-passwords/ | Source: Krebs On Security | May 08 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Your Phone May Soon Replace Many of Your Passwords – Krebs on Security | May 08 09:04 | |
| techrights-news | 'No Corporation That Breaks the Law Should Get a Federal Contract' ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/07/sanders-says-no-corporation-breaks-law-should-get-federal-contract | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | May 08 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Says 'No Corporation That Breaks the Law Should Get a Federal Contract' | May 08 09:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | May 08 09:05 | |
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| techrights-news | "Large-scale pirate IPTV operations can generate significant profits but with that comes the chance of significant liability should things go bad." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/iptv-pirate-agrees-to-pay-well-over-half-a-billion-dollars-in-damages-220507/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 08 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IPTV Pirate Agrees to Pay Well Over Half a Billion Dollars in Damages * TorrentFreak | May 08 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | Where we are, the Green Party has twice as many votes as Conservatives https://www.manchester.gov.uk/electionresults | May 08 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manchester.gov.uk | 5 May 2022 Local Election Results | The next election | Manchester City Council | May 08 09:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Starbucks has been saying that no union-busting ever occurred in Buffalo. Today, the NLRB sets the record straight." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/07/workers-say-nlrb-complaint-fully-unmasks-starbucks-facade-progressive-company | Source: Common Dreams | May 08 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Workers Say NLRB Complaint "Fully Unmasks Starbucks' Facade as a Progressive Company" | May 08 09:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Trust me, you don’t have to build your own keyboard from the deskpad up to be happy or feel like one of the cool kids." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/07/mods-make-a-stock-keyboard-your-own/ | Source: Hackaday | May 08 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mods Make A Stock Keyboard Your Own | Hackaday | May 08 09:21 | |
| techrights-news | "There’s no shortage of ESP32 development boards out there" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/07/bee-motion-combines-esp32-with-pir-sensor-and-usb-c/ | Source: Hackaday | May 08 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bee Motion Combines ESP32 With PIR Sensor And USB-C | Hackaday | May 08 09:21 | |
| techrights-news | >Wine Staging 7.8 Released with Improved Alt+Tab Handling for Unity Games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164573#comment-33581 | May 08 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine development release 7.8 is now available. | Tux Machines | May 08 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | Bash is not "Linux", sorry... https://medium.com/techtofreedom/5-types-of-expansions-on-linux-9de60e812119 | May 08 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 Types of Expansions on Linux. A small feature can make your life much… | by Yang Zhou | TechToFreedom | May, 2022 | Medium | May 08 09:27 | |
| techrights-news | Tor 0.4.7 Stable Version Released - LinuxStoney ⚓ https://linuxstoney.com/tor-0-4-7-stable-version-released/ ䷉ Source: linuxstoney | May 08 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tor 0.4.7 Stable Version Released - LinuxStoney | May 08 09:29 | |
| techrights-news | Nextcloud Hub 24 automates data export and import - LinuxStoney ⚓ https://linuxstoney.com/nextcloud-hub-24-automates-data-export-and-import/ ䷉ Source: linuxstoney | May 08 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nextcloud Hub 24 automates data export and import - LinuxStoney | May 08 09:29 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 07, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/irc-log-070522/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/irc-log-070522/ | May 08 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 07, 2022 | Techrights | May 08 09:29 | |
| techrights-news | "I'm watching paddington with my coworkers and its wild how much like a wes anderson film this is" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | May 08 09:31 |
| techrights-news | "I feel like I'm frequently 3-4 years behind on most mainstream media." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/929 | May 08 09:31 |
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| techrights-news | Counter-intuitive if you believe the buzzwords, but smart people would reject smartphones (based on actual information, not fashion and trends) | May 08 09:49 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Stuff and DRM • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164601 | May 08 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Stuff and DRM | Tux Machines | May 08 09:49 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164602 | May 08 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 09:56 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164603 | May 08 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 09:56 | |
| techrights-news | Links 08/05/2022: Nextcloud Hub 24 and Tor 0.4.7 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/tor-0-4-7/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/tor-0-4-7/ | May 08 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 08/05/2022: Nextcloud Hub 24 and Tor 0.4.7 | Techrights | May 08 09:58 | |
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| techrights-news | Dillinger is a web-based feature-rich Markdown editor https://medevel.com/dillinger-markdown/ | May 08 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Dillinger is a web-based feature-rich Markdown editor | May 08 11:17 | |
| techrights-news | "hledger is released under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/hledger-web/ | May 08 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | HLedger Web is an outstanding personal accounting and money tracking system | May 08 11:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Jellyfin is an Opensource software which can handle all your media requirements by exposing them securely, allowing you to access anywhere as well as features like metadata fetch, transcoding, user access." https://unixcop.com/deploy-jellyfin-on-docker/ | May 08 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixcop.com | Deploy Jellyfin on Docker - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials | May 08 11:19 | |
| techrights-news | I'm going to stop linking to any AWS howtos. AWS isn't our friend (or enemy of enemy), and it has made that increasingly clear in recent years http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ | May 08 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights | May 08 11:21 | |
| techrights-news | "It is a simple easy to use contact manager and address box solution, written with Python and Django." https://medevel.com/contact-otter/ | May 08 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Contact Otter is your personal free, CRM and contact manager | May 08 11:22 | |
| techrights-news | Vista 11 is universally rejected https://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-pc-with-four-2-5gbe-lan-dual-display-and-pcie-x4-slot/ | May 08 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-pc-with-four-2-5gbe-lan-dual-display-and-pcie-x4-slot/ ) | May 08 11:23 | |
| techrights-news | On the Cusp of Widespread Adoption of GNU/Linux in More Countries | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/china-and-edge-of-change-gnu-linux-policies/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/china-and-edge-of-change-gnu-linux-policies/ | May 08 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | On the Cusp of Widespread Adoption of GNU/Linux in More Countries | Techrights | May 08 12:03 | |
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| bnchs | i'm migrating to artix linux | May 08 13:02 |
| bnchs | WHILE having an IRC client | May 08 13:02 |
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| techrights-news | Debian is Not Defending Volunteers by SLAPPing Other Volunteers, It Just Tarnishes the Community’s Reputation and Brand | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/ | May 08 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Debian is Not Defending Volunteers by SLAPPing Other Volunteers, It Just Tarnishes the Community’s Reputation and Brand | Techrights | May 08 13:39 | |
| techrights-news | Debian is Not Defending Volunteers by SLAPPing Other Volunteers, It Just Tarnishes the Community’s Reputation and Brand | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/ | May 08 13:40 |
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| techrights-news | [PULL] drm-intel-next - Jani Nikula ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/87bkwbkkdo.fsf@intel.com/ ䷉ Source: intel | May 08 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PULL] drm-intel-next - Jani Nikula | May 08 13:47 | |
| techrights-news | Add thermal daemon skeleton https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/thermal/linux.git/commit/?h=thermal/linux-next&id=c07a7c8dbcd8e0e31446f10235108aef1f6d03ce | May 08 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/thermal/linux.git - Thermal group | May 08 13:48 | |
| techrights-news | radv: minor RT opts, allow LBVH on GFX6+ (!16203) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab ⚓ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/16203 ䷉ Source: gitlab | May 08 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | radv: minor RT opts, allow LBVH on GFX6+ (!16203) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab | May 08 13:49 | |
| techrights-news | It looks like China may soon migrate 50 million PCs to GNU/Linux, according to the corporate media controlled by an American oligarch http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/china-and-edge-of-change-gnu-linux-policies/ | May 08 13:49 |
| techrights-news | Volunteers of Debian face an unwelcoming gesture not because of critics online but because it seems clear that Debian leadership misuses very limited Debian funds to SLAPP disgruntled volunteers; the project is not in good hands and this needs to be corrected before it gets yet worse http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/ | May 08 13:50 |
| techrights-news | Save the date - Deutscher Perl/Raku Workshop 2023 in Frankfurt am Main - 27.02.2023-1.03.2023 http://blogs.perl.org/users/max_maischein/2022/05/save-the-date---deutscher-perlraku-workshop-2023-in-frankfurt-am-main---27022023-1032023.html | May 08 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Save the date - Deutscher Perl/Raku Workshop 2023 in Frankfurt am Main - 27.02.2023-1.03.2023 | Max Maischein [blogs.perl.org] | May 08 13:52 | |
| techrights-news | revealJS is an open-source presentation framework https://medevel.com/revealjs/ | May 08 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | revealJS is an open-source presentation framework | May 08 13:53 | |
| techrights-news | "This month I accepted 186 and rejected 26 packages. The overall number of packages that got accepted was 188." http://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/05/my-debian-activities-in-april-2022/ | May 08 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Debian Activities in April 2022 – blog.alteholz.eu | May 08 13:53 | |
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| techrights-news | Canaan K510 CRB RISC-V AI development kit ships with dual-camera module and LCD display - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/08/canaan-k510-crb-risc-v-ai-development-kit-ships-with-dual-camera-module-and-lcd-display/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | May 08 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Canaan K510 CRB RISC-V AI development kit ships with dual-camera module and LCD display - CNX Software | May 08 13:55 | |
| techrights-news | Applications: Jellyfin, hledger, Contact Otter, and Dillinger • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164604 | May 08 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Applications: Jellyfin, hledger, Contact Otter, and Dillinger | Tux Machines | May 08 13:58 | |
| techrights-news | platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: Add a s2idle resume quirk for a number of laptops https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/pdx86/platform-drivers-x86.git/commit/?h=fixes&id=455cd867b85b53fd3602345f9b8a8facc551adc9 | May 08 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/pdx86/platform-drivers-x86.git - Linux x86 platform drivers tree | May 08 13:59 | |
| techrights-news | KDE Plasma 5.25: Top New Features and Release Details https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/05/kde-plasma-5-25/ | May 08 14:00 |
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| techrights-news | "Magda is released under the Apache-2.0 License" https://medevel.com/magda-bigdata/ | May 08 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Magda is an open-source Big Data cataloging system | May 08 14:03 | |
| techrights-news | KDE Plasma 5.25: Top New Features and Release Details • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164605 | May 08 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25: Top New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines | May 08 14:05 | |
| techrights-news | There is no such thing as "IP"; they just try to combined totally different things, based on lobbyists' suggestions https://www.managingip.com/article/b1xw0p5jxlvjtf/inta-2022-office-heads-tout-pros-of-unified-ip-agencies | May 08 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | INTA 2022: Office heads tout pros of unified IP agencies | Managing Intellectual Property | May 08 14:15 | |
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| techrights-news | There is no such thing as "Europe’s patent community"; those are parasites and this piece is lobbying disguised as journalist, citing "tweets" https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/the-cjeu-has-clarified-pi-case-law-for-europes-judges/ | May 08 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | "The CJEU has clarified PI case law for Europe's judges" - JUVE Patent | May 08 14:17 | |
| techrights-news | Konstanze Richter speaks of "the impending UPC" even though it's neither legal nor certain | May 08 14:18 |
| techrights-news | More ads/spam disguised as reporting; this publisher profits from promotion of law firms that sue with patents, so there's a conflict of interest, to https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/joachim-feldges-passes-baton-in-allen-overys-patent-team/ | May 08 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | After Feldges: Allen & Overy's patent team secures succession - JUVE Patent | May 08 14:20 | |
| techrights-news | Mathieu Klos speaks of "the potential UPC" without noting that it is illegal | May 08 14:21 |
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| techrights-news | PATROLL aims to shatter records in 2022 https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/4/patroll-aims-to-shatter-records-in-2022 they squash fake patents. That's good. | May 08 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | PATROLL aims to shatter records in 2022 — Unified Patents | May 08 14:22 | |
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| techrights-news | "But with more than a year since Director Iancu stepped down from the USPTO, Fintiv and 314(a) denials have plummeted dramatically." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/2/ptab-discretionary-denials-fall-board-time-spent-on-issue-rises http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu | May 08 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | PTAB Discretionary Denials Fall; Board Time Spent on Issue Rises — Unified Patents | May 08 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights | May 08 14:23 | |
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| techrights-news | "resulted in claims 1–10, 13–22, and 25–34 of U.S. Patent 9,553,880 being found unpatentable" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/28/b-on-demand-voluntarily-dismissed-own-fed-circuit-appeal | May 08 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | B# On Demand abandons own Federal Circuit appeal — Unified Patents | May 08 14:24 | |
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| techrights-news | The Charade of Fake News and Lobbying (Based on Lies) by Team UPC | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/team-upc-disinformation/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/team-upc-disinformation/ | May 08 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Charade of Fake News and Lobbying (Based on Lies) by Team UPC | Techrights | May 08 15:10 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/CMr6vme.jpeg | May 08 15:34 |
| matey | Summary: Volunteers of Debian face an unwelcoming gesture not because of critics online but because it seems clear that Debian leadership misuses very limited Debian funds to SLAPP disgruntled volunteers; the project is not in good hands and this needs to be corrected before it gets yet worse | May 08 15:35 |
| matey | "the project is not in good hands and this needs to be corrected before it gets yet worse" so um, some time between 2014 and now, then? | May 08 15:36 |
| matey | 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, | May 08 15:36 |
| matey | 2020, 2021, 2022... | May 08 15:36 |
| matey | "and this needs to be corrected" what, no "debian will be gone" as the solution? (github, ibm, microsoft, mozilla) | May 08 15:37 |
| matey | but waiting for hell to close is always the solution | May 08 15:37 |
| matey | "sorry people, hell is full" | May 08 15:37 |
| matey | "youll just have to go somewhere else" | May 08 15:37 |
| matey | im open to solutions if anybody has one | May 08 15:38 |
| matey | my guess is the solution is waiting another 7 or 8 years for debian to stop being a bunch of cunts | May 08 15:38 |
| matey | good luck with that | May 08 15:38 |
| matey | maybe it will become the universally loathed distro | May 08 15:39 |
| matey | its practically ubuntu now anyway | May 08 15:39 |
| matey | "fedora lite" | May 08 15:40 |
| matey | distros were better when there were still distros | May 08 15:40 |
| matey | and not just package repos for systemd | May 08 15:41 |
| matey | my question is: if debians real job is to peddle a pile of shit | May 08 15:41 |
| matey | who do you EXPECT to do that, EXCEPT a bunch of cunts? | May 08 15:42 |
| matey | who else would even take the job? | May 08 15:42 |
| bnchs | i migrated to artix | May 08 15:42 |
| bnchs | specifically openrc | May 08 15:42 |
| matey | that was fast | May 08 15:43 |
| matey | not sarcasm-- didnt you announce your intent like 48 hours ago? | May 08 15:43 |
| bnchs | [12:57:09] <bnchs> i'm migrating to artix linux | May 08 15:43 |
| bnchs | the guide wasn't straightforward | May 08 15:44 |
| bnchs | i had to change a few commands | May 08 15:44 |
| bnchs | hey at least it actually shutdowns faster | May 08 15:45 |
| bnchs | rather than ending with 3000 kauditd callbacks | May 08 15:45 |
| matey | /me doesnt even know what kauditd is | May 08 15:45 |
| matey | oh | May 08 15:45 |
| matey | k audit d | May 08 15:45 |
| matey | stupid "init" | May 08 15:46 |
| bnchs | and complaining about systemd-homed not existing | May 08 15:46 |
| matey | please wait while systemd performs kernel updates | May 08 15:46 |
| matey | do not shut off your computer. | May 08 15:46 |
| matey | immediate knee jerk when systemd inevitably implements windows-style mandatory updates and people complain: | May 08 15:48 |
| matey | there are plenty of distros you can use without systemd | May 08 15:48 |
| bnchs | i'm not done with the transition yet | May 08 15:48 |
| matey | you can compile it without the mandatory updates option | May 08 15:49 |
| MinceR | they had better hurry up if they want to use that knee jerk | May 08 15:49 |
| matey | do you think running out of date kernels is a good idea? | May 08 15:49 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypn3Fe_PLts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0c7wcpJslg | May 08 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=ypn3Fe_PLts | May 08 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> y.com.sb | Yellowstone Won't Explode And End Civilisation (Sorry) | The Deep Dive - Invidious | May 08 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=v0c7wcpJslg | May 08 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | You Don’t Need to Worry About Yellowstone (or Any Other Supervolcano) - Invidious | May 08 16:05 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Come on, Russian TV promised me this like years ago. | May 08 16:09 |
| MinceR | :> | May 08 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | They never follow through. | May 08 16:10 |
| MinceR | don't worry, volcano or no volcano, humans will take care of exterminating themselves | May 08 16:10 |
| matey | /me isnt surprised mincer is so cynical after what happened to the revolution in hungary | May 08 16:12 |
| matey | and the state of things there today | May 08 16:12 |
| MinceR | all our revolutions were pointless | May 08 16:13 |
| matey | though people do have a habit of projecting the state of their country onto the rest of the world | May 08 16:13 |
| matey | well, i dont know of anyone that fought more tenaciously than the hungarians | May 08 16:13 |
| MinceR | why fight for freedom and independence if the majority just goes and decides they _want_ to live in a dictatorship ruled by terrorussia in 2010? | May 08 16:13 |
| matey | so i can understand the cynicism now | May 08 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | Over the years my disagreement with MinceR on this went from categorical disagreement to a shrug. | May 08 16:13 |
| matey | cynicism is a useful point of view for some things | May 08 16:14 |
| matey | underrated in my opinion | May 08 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | My view on the world has gotten very bleak. | May 08 16:14 |
| matey | and like anything else, it has its limist | May 08 16:14 |
| matey | a bit like my typing | May 08 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | And yes, it is projecting the state of my country. | May 08 16:14 |
| matey | why fight for freedom and independence if the majority just goes and decides they _want_ to live in a dictatorship <- because people do get tired of it | May 08 16:14 |
| matey | but when they miss windows of opportunity it costs them decades | May 08 16:14 |
| matey | and half a revolution is ultimately like none at all | May 08 16:15 |
| matey | reform will never work | May 08 16:15 |
| matey | revolution (debatably) hasnt yet | May 08 16:15 |
| matey | if you dont believe in either of those, humanity has nothing to hope for | May 08 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Half-revolutions can still be progress. | May 08 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Like what's happening in Kazakhstan. | May 08 16:16 |
| matey | a half revolution will be destroyed by counterrevolution | May 08 16:16 |
| matey | its worth fighting of course | May 08 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | The cult of Nazarbayev's personality is dying out. | May 08 16:16 |
| matey | because if it turns into a full revolution, then half is a good start | May 08 16:16 |
| matey | its just that half a revolution isnt enough to sustain itself | May 08 16:16 |
| matey | well im more optimistic than mincer. thats not hard. | May 08 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | Even though the revolution was squashed, the effort still changed the political balance of power. | May 08 16:17 |
| matey | hes literally the most cynical person i know | May 08 16:17 |
| matey | and to make matters worse, hes right about many things | May 08 16:17 |
| matey | Even though the revolution was squashed <- the one thing about half a revolution that really serves the future long term is | May 08 16:18 |
| matey | it provides lessons (both happy and unhappy) for future efforts | May 08 16:18 |
| matey | half a revolution is a mix of victory and failure | May 08 16:18 |
| matey | we can learn from both | May 08 16:18 |
| matey | the cynic cant learn from victory | May 08 16:19 |
| matey | they see it as only failure | May 08 16:19 |
| matey | failure is a hard lesson-- death, torture, slavery | May 08 16:19 |
| matey | all the worst aspects of mankind | May 08 16:20 |
| matey | all the best things to fight | May 08 16:20 |
| matey | i have no idea how the people driving these things have their ears still attached to their heads | May 08 16:22 |
| matey | ive lost most of my hearing for at least 20 minutes (decades ago) | May 08 16:22 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I don't really see the world in the revolution/counterrevolution light. What I see is political powers' mobility, accountability, rotation. | May 08 16:22 |
| matey | everything that has happened to free software for the past 20 years is revolution/counterrevolution, mostly the latter | May 08 16:23 |
| matey | my associate calls it the free software thermidor | May 08 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | Basically, the way I see it, counter-revolution is just bound to happen if the people in power work the political system in such a way that they will just have it unconditionally. | May 08 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | Erosion of the political process, corruption, et al. | May 08 16:23 |
| matey | counter-revolution is just bound to happen <- this much i agree with | May 08 16:24 |
| matey | Erosion of the political process, corruption, et al. <- yes | May 08 16:24 |
| matey | even russia had two revolutions (the second being the october) before it took | May 08 16:25 |
| matey | lenins health failed, stalin got in, we know how that worked out | May 08 16:25 |
| matey | the funny thing was, stalin never had the ambition to do the horrible things he did | May 08 16:26 |
| matey | he only sought to be in charge | May 08 16:26 |
| matey | once he gained power, he held onto that so tightly that he was willing to murder anyone who opposed it | May 08 16:26 |
| matey | he was batshit insane | May 08 16:26 |
| matey | finally they killed him for it | May 08 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | matey: The ugly thing is that the Us-Them traitor mentality was there even before Stalin got in charge. | May 08 16:27 |
| matey | sure | May 08 16:27 |
| matey | but false/forced unity doesnt solve that | May 08 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | So the poison was there. | May 08 16:27 |
| matey | let me make sure i dont misunderstand your point about this | May 08 16:27 |
| matey | you dont think the concept of a traitor is entirely useless or counterproductive? | May 08 16:28 |
| matey | we would agree either way im sure, that the notion can be abused, taken advantage of opportunistically (and often is) | May 08 16:28 |
| matey | but thats not my question | May 08 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I think that the Soviet Russia was built on undermining people who disagreed, and then on the Civil War, and that created a very unhealthy dynamic. | May 08 16:29 |
| matey | labelling opponents as traitors is completely unoriginal | May 08 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | And then Stalin rode that wave and made it an absolute. | May 08 16:29 |
| matey | I think that the Soviet Russia was built on undermining people who disagreed <- this i would agree, created a situation ripe for stalin, yes | May 08 16:29 |
| matey | lenin said "you want obedience? youll have obedient fools!" | May 08 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | But I'd still fault Stalin for Stalin in the same fashion as I fault Putin for Putin. | May 08 16:30 |
| matey | of course | May 08 16:30 |
| matey | you have to work pretty hard to be the worst. | May 08 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | Putin's Russia is an extension of Yeltsin's Russia, and all the vices of the latter allowed the former to come to this world. | May 08 16:31 |
| matey | you think putin is an alcoholic? | May 08 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I meant vices like legalised thuggery. | May 08 16:32 |
| matey | that makes more sense | May 08 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | Oligarchy, et al. | May 08 16:32 |
| matey | of course | May 08 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | And Putin is a product of the Russia's 90s much more than he's a product of KGB even. | May 08 16:34 |
| matey | supervillains often have interesting (if cliched) origin stories | May 08 16:35 |
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| *activelow sighs | May 08 16:38 | |
| activelow | found one wrongdoer, who changed permissions of (bsd) tty device nodes... | May 08 16:38 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/stages https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/165133416420220430after.png | May 08 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Stages | May 08 16:39 | |
| activelow | rather concerning, given ... see what dtach/dvtm could do, if some tty dev node permissions allow | May 08 16:40 |
| activelow | kernel unix98 style tty device nodes, udev etc... complicate this further | May 08 16:41 |
| activelow | bsd-style pty device node management, at least, handover control back to the administrator | May 08 16:42 |
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| activelow | yet, if any daemon with root privileges mis-behaves, tty device nodes with mode 666 are dangling | May 08 16:43 |
| activelow | if then, any ordinar user grabs such a tty node the terminal session exposes read-write permissions to everyone on the system | May 08 16:44 |
| activelow | digging into dvtm terminal multiplexer sources raised even more concerns | May 08 16:46 |
| activelow | at, least, what i got now, with a terminal session managed by dvtm, is notifications when a session was handed over to another client/ssh-connect/login, and session-detach timeout | May 08 16:47 |
| activelow | and tty device node ownership and permissions are statically set chown/chmod once during system-boot, by the admininistrator, which is me | May 08 16:49 |
| activelow | not kernel, not udev, not systemd... | May 08 16:49 |
| activelow | and i wouldn't trust openpty()/forkpty()/grantpt() etc.., regardless who implemented it, linux kernel or *bsd | May 08 16:50 |
| activelow | openbsd implemented wscons, the other *bsd do openpty() nowadays, seems only linux kernel offers the traditional bsd pty | May 08 16:52 |
| activelow | another minor benefit of statically managed bsd pty device nodes; by chown/chmod to a dedicated user/group, the administrator can decide who and how many pseudo terminals are available to anyone, such as ssh sessions | May 08 16:53 |
| activelow | so, i rather live with the limitations of pre-Unix98 pty than any openpty() implementation | May 08 16:54 |
| activelow | which reminds me of the dispute Alan Cox resigned over... which was a race-condition issue withing kernel pty handling... | May 08 16:55 |
| activelow | besides, i do not trust any of the dynamic device node management such as udev/mdev etc... i removed this entirely | May 08 16:55 |
| activelow | again, i rather live with the disadvantages of this, such as de-reattaching a usb sound or video device requires a sudo root chown of such nodes | May 08 16:56 |
| activelow | maybe, i will re-integrate some suckless.org device node manager, certainly not any udev implementation of it | May 08 16:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▃▃▂▃▂▄▄▄▃▄▃▄▂▃▂▁▂▅▆▁▂▂▂▄▄▅▇▂▁▅▃▄▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 25.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁▂▁██▂▁▂█▂▁██▁▂▁▁▁▂█▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 66.31▕ swarm size (avg): 416.58 ⟲ | May 08 16:59 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164606 | May 08 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 08 17:13 | |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/normal https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/165150918120220502after.png | May 08 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Normal | May 08 17:19 | |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <Techrights-sec> is using lies about the UPC illegal or has the UPC become invalid/illegal itself? | May 08 17:43 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <Techrights-sec> yes some reinforcement of that can be added into the article | May 08 17:43 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz-TR> lies can be a violation in the legal profession | May 08 17:43 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz-TR> I think they have commitments | May 08 17:43 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz-TR> and I think calling them out on it | May 08 17:43 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz-TR> helps to silence them | May 08 17:43 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz-TR> they don't want to get caught | May 08 17:43 |
| techrights-news | UPC: “A Neo-colonialist Plot” | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/unitary-patent-system-neo-colonialist-plot/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/unitary-patent-system-neo-colonialist-plot/ | May 08 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UPC: “A Neo-colonialist Plot” | Techrights | May 08 18:02 | |
| matey | Dishonesty, on the other hand, is regarded as an extremely serious matter and will almost certainly result in a referral to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal and will, if it is proven, almost invariably result in a striking off. | May 08 18:05 |
| matey | https://www.lawyersdefencegroup.org.uk/our-services/conduct-and-regulatory-issues/misconduct-and-dishonesty/ | May 08 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lawyersdefencegroup.org.uk | Misconduct and Dishonesty - Lawyers Defence Group | May 08 18:05 | |
| matey | anyones guess what the difference between theory, claims and practice are here | May 08 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://fussellcharles.com | May 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz | II did a video today about this SLAPPstick | May 08 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fussellcharles.com | Fussell Charles & Jonathan Cohen & Debian Embezzlement | May 08 18:33 | |
| techrights-news | Renewing tuaxmachines domain until 2027 when it turns 23! | May 08 18:35 |
| techrights-news | 7 Top Free and Open Source Crystal Web Frameworks • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164607 | May 08 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Top Free and Open Source Crystal Web Frameworks | Tux Machines | May 08 18:36 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164608 | May 08 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 18:36 | |
| activelow | console mouse support for text applications, such as w3m (no blame towards this)... | May 08 18:52 |
| activelow | another giant f***up | May 08 18:52 |
| activelow | either terminal lacks capabilities, or termcaps are not exposed by terminfo, or the individual application becomes confused about termcaps and how to handle them | May 08 18:55 |
| activelow | the simplest test case being on linux console (without X11); gpm started; TERM=linux w3m -o use_mouse=true $url | May 08 18:57 |
| activelow | guess what... | May 08 18:57 |
| activelow | within X11 at least TERM=xterm w3m does enable mouse support as it should be... yet x11/xterm won't be the main environment here, certainly not | May 08 18:58 |
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| activelow | the linux console/gpm mouse bug with w3m was reported year 2006 already ... | May 08 19:00 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/4lduSgO.jpeg | May 08 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> Basically, the way I see it, counter-revolution is just bound to happen if the people in power work the political system in such a way that they will just have it unconditionally. | May 08 19:25 |
| XRevan86 | A bit clunky wording, I know. | May 08 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Putin could be setting Russia up for another revolution. One of the things that was stopping it was that he could turn the military on them if they tried. | May 08 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | But he's rapidly throwing away pretty much all their military equipment in Ukraine. | May 08 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | So far Putin's been able to squash every protest movement without using any military. | May 08 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | It's interesting that the police are fine with being paid in Rubles. | May 08 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe that will change. | May 08 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | So far it's been the police, the National Guard and the groupings like the "Cossacks" | May 08 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | The list of equipment lost in Ukraine is growing by the day. | May 08 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's already quite large. | May 08 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | I admit I was sitting here laughing pretty hard about the Moskva sinking. | May 08 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Then the US government like "Yeah, we told Ukraine how to target it, but hey it was their decision to blow it up, so....". | May 08 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: There's something iffy going on here, they stated that they didn't do that. | May 08 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | This is by far the most effective campaign of harassment the United States has ever waged against Russia. | May 08 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans were bragging about Afghanistan and the Stingers. | May 08 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | The US military, Congress, and the CIA see the investment as worth every penny. | May 08 19:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/06/pentagon-denies-helping-ukraine-sink-moskva-a77600 https://nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-told-officials-media-reports-us-intel-sharing-ukraine-are-counte-rcna27738 | May 08 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Pentagon Denies Helping Ukraine Sink Moskva - The Moscow Times | May 08 19:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Biden told officials media reports about U.S. intel sharing with Ukraine are counterproductive | May 08 19:32 | |
| DaemonFC | For a few billion dollars, there's a graveyard of destroyed Russian equipment and ships. | May 08 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | And we got to find out that the Russian military's most advanced tanks really aren't that effective against our Javelin system. | May 08 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | And at this rate, in just 90 days, there will be more than twice as many dead Russian soldiers in Ukraine than died in the entire campaign in Afghanistan. | May 08 19:34 |
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| DaemonFC | They're retreating from Kharkiv and blowing up bridges, afraid that the Ukrainian military will follow them as they retreat. | May 08 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Per Ukraine's claims it's already way above that. | May 08 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | Putin has turned to screaming at his generals (the ones that haven't been picked off yet) and threatening purges. | May 08 19:35 |
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| XRevan86 | But even if they're overblowing it, the genuine number will still have to be at least close to 15k. | May 08 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think Putin would have purged the generals except they had like 50 of them when they went into this and now he'd have to pick one of the five to blame. | May 08 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: He can't openly purge anyone. | May 08 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | Because that would be admitting that something went seriously wrong. | May 08 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | But as we know, everything is going according to plan. | May 08 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Well, he'll have to retire one of them due to sudden issues with their health. | May 08 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny how Ricin can do that. | May 08 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | That can only be done once or twice though. | May 08 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe one day for no particular reason, they'll start walking out of windows. | May 08 19:38 |
| XRevan86 | As far as I can tell, Putin is doing what he does best: he relieves people of duty in the back-stage informal government, while keeping their formal posts. | May 08 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | Putin is not a man of formalities. | May 08 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | So he'll keep them around as a figurehead and then just relay decisions someone else makes? | May 08 19:40 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Yes. | May 08 19:40 |
| MinceR | familiar | May 08 19:40 |
| MinceR | that's what orban had kasler do after he proved himself incompetent even by fideath standards | May 08 19:40 |
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| chicksahoy | prurigro: hiya | May 08 19:41 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Regarding the number of death, there's a big nasty catch: Russian's army is very mixed, and not everyone who died is, strictly speaking, part of the army, the National Guard was sent to Ukraine in the early days of the invasion, and they were by large just massacred. Then there are the PMC's and the armies of the quasi-republics L/DPR. All in all not every loss is counted the same by Russia. | May 08 19:46 |
| XRevan86 | The Ministry of *fence of Russia made a response in kind (kind of) and said that Ukraine lost 23k people from the army, National Guard, "foreign mercenaries" and other militarised groups (probably Terorobona). | May 08 19:50 |
| MinceR | *fence :D | May 08 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | The way I see it, they included everyone who came even close to being a partisan and got killed in there. | May 08 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe even a perceived partisan, who's going to check? | May 08 19:51 |
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| XRevan86 | "Teroborona" <- "Territorial Defence Forces" of Ukraine | May 08 19:53 |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pain-3 | May 08 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Pain | May 08 19:57 | |
| XRevan86 | Tomorrow will be an exhausting day information-wise. | May 08 19:58 |
| MinceR | maybe disinformation-wise :> | May 08 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | All kinds. | May 08 19:59 |
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| techrights-news | New release of Tiny Core Linux "v13.1 ...A few minor updates ... See System Announcement in the support forum for detailed change log and update notes." http://www.tinycorelinux.net/ | May 08 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tinycorelinux.net | Tiny Core Linux, Micro Core Linux, 12MB Linux GUI Desktop, Live, Frugal, Extendable | May 08 20:02 | |
| XRevan86 | Potentially something nasty will be announced, hard to predict with certainty. | May 08 20:02 |
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| techrights-news | How open source leads the way for sustainable technology | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/5/open-source-sustainable-technology ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux | May 08 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How open source leads the way for sustainable technology | Opensource.com | May 08 20:06 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164609 | May 08 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 08 20:07 | |
| techrights-news | drm/rockchip: Add VOP2 driver https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=604be85547ce4d61b89292d2f9a78c721b778c16 | May 08 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/next/linux-next.git - The linux-next integration testing tree | May 08 20:07 | |
| techrights-news | 20 Best Linux Media Server Distros & Software for Your Home Theater PC • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164610 | May 08 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20 Best Linux Media Server Distros & Software for Your Home Theater PC | Tux Machines | May 08 20:09 | |
| techrights-news | The Two-Dimensional Political Compass is an Insult gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/political_dimensions.gmi | May 08 20:12 |
| techrights-news | E-mails Aren't Really Letters gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-08-e-mails-aren-t-really-letters.gmi | May 08 20:13 |
| techrights-news | Linux going in a bad direction because GAFAM insists on it https://linuxstoney.com/the-sixth-version-of-patches-for-the-linux-kernel-with-support-for-the-rust-language/ | May 08 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The sixth version of patches for the Linux kernel with support for the Rust language - LinuxStoney | May 08 20:15 | |
| techrights-news | PS4/Switch/Vita/Linux Release - pEMU 6.0 (NES/SNES/Sega/Arcade emulator suite) - Wololo.net ⚓ https://wololo.net/2022/05/06/ps4-switch-vita-linux-release-pemu-6-0-nes-snes-sega-arcade-emulator-suite/ ䷉ Source: wololo | May 08 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PS4/Switch/Vita/Linux Release - pEMU 6.0 (NES/SNES/Sega/Arcade emulator suite) - Wololo.net | May 08 20:16 | |
| XRevan86 | General mobilisation is considered to be unlikely at this point (but never ruled out), but there's also a chance for some kind of conditional mobilisation. | May 08 20:16 |
| techrights-news | The EPO is harming the European Union because its handlers try to ratify an illegal system under the guise of unity http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/unitary-patent-system-neo-colonialist-plot/ | May 08 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UPC: “A Neo-colonialist Plot” | Techrights | May 08 20:17 | |
| techrights-news | EPO President António Campinos has reached the "let me through!" or the "let me in!" moment (like Lukashenko 2 years ago) http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/epo-president-video/ | May 08 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] He is the EPO’s President | Techrights | May 08 20:17 | |
| XRevan86 | Another thing that can happen is an announcement regarding the fate of the currently occupied territories, like another quasi-republic, or an agglomeration of all the *PR's into one big PR, or direct annexation into Russia. | May 08 20:18 |
| techrights-news | The EPO‘s replace-courts-with-kangaroo-courts project is based on lies, disinformation (worse than misinformation), fabrication, and glorification of illegal actions, overt violations of constitutions, conventions being ignored, court-rigging, and even habitual perjury http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/team-upc-disinformation/ | May 08 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Charade of Fake News and Lobbying (Based on Lies) by Team UPC | Techrights | May 08 20:18 | |
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| bnchs | wtf is pEMU | May 08 20:32 |
| bnchs | here's the bullshit about PlayStation, if you don't give the console an internet connection, and you play one of the games you licensed from their online store | May 08 20:33 |
| bnchs | it will suspend your game after 15 minutes if it can't vaildate the license | May 08 20:33 |
| bnchs | i mean the game* | May 08 20:33 |
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| bnchs | and you have to pay for game licenses PER ACCOUNT | May 08 20:34 |
| bnchs | not the entire console anymore | May 08 20:34 |
| activelow | w3m and gpm mouse simply isn't implemented for no-X11 outside xterm | May 08 20:41 |
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| psydroid2 | "Welcome to the World of Warcraft" | May 08 20:44 |
| psydroid2 | war on end users | May 08 20:44 |
| bnchs | one thing i noticed about systemd and openrc | May 08 20:44 |
| bnchs | openrc has cleaner interface names | May 08 20:45 |
| bnchs | eth0 vs eno1 | May 08 20:45 |
| bnchs | wlan0 vs wlp5s0 | May 08 20:45 |
| bnchs | systemd INTENTIONALLY renames interfaces to these garbage | May 08 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: This is on udev. | May 08 20:52 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: And Gentoo is moving away from eudev, so the default will likely change as well. | May 08 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Oh wait, I just stumbled upon https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-fs/eudev/eudev-3.2.11-r2.ebuild#n55 | May 08 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitweb.gentoo.org | eudev-3.2.11-r2.ebuild « eudev « sys-fs - repo/gentoo.git - Official Gentoo ebuild repository | May 08 20:55 | |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: Are ye sure ye didn't just disable this on the OpenRC-based system? | May 08 20:55 |
| psydroid2 | device specific names make sense on some level, but it should be a choice the sysadmin makes | May 08 20:58 |
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| XRevan86 | psydroid2: Seems like bnchs made this choice and then has forgotten :). | May 08 20:59 |
| psydroid2 | XRevan86, I think many (or all) systemd distributions enable this by default :) | May 08 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid2: Check the link, it says that eudev enables it by default as well. | May 08 21:01 |
| activelow | non-systemd systems almost always use a udev implementation too | May 08 21:01 |
| activelow | a linux system doesn't need any udev; it is a few lines of chmod/chown during system boot and all permissions match, including x11/libdrm/audio etc | May 08 21:02 |
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| XRevan86 | Yes. Unless bnchs somehow dodges udev altogether, it's more likely that he just got the warning from portage and axed it off immediately, and then forgot. | May 08 21:02 |
| activelow | problem is, if devices are re-attached dynamically... to act upon such events to re/set permissions, which i remain sceptical with udev | May 08 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | "a linux system doesn't need any udev" <- That's a bold statement. | May 08 21:04 |
| activelow | evdev sucks too, Xorg switched input device drivers to evdev ones... i rolled-back this change here... | May 08 21:04 |
| activelow | i don't trust evedv; udev/evdev, this is systemd even when openrc is the init process | May 08 21:05 |
| activelow | meaning, replacing systemd init with openrc does _NOT_ remove all the systemd clutter, in fact some of the worst parts remain even with openrc/eudev | May 08 21:06 |
| activelow | XRevan86: sure, with udev/evdev removed, this has some disadvantages | May 08 21:07 |
| XRevan86 | Just some. | May 08 21:08 |
| activelow | nonetheless, the typical argument X11/GTK required any of this is wrong, i got X11/GTK here, with all the clutter removed | May 08 21:08 |
| activelow | although, i did fully wipe GTK recently, too i will wipe X11, for other reasons then their poisoning with systemd-clutter | May 08 21:08 |
| activelow | for those who want to, suckless.org suggests some simple device node manager, which is good enough, and is less than 1% the lines of code produced elsewhere | May 08 21:09 |
| bnchs | XRevan86, i am not a gentooer | May 08 21:30 |
| bnchs | i am a artix | May 08 21:30 |
| bnchs | arch linux had this problem | May 08 21:31 |
| bnchs | before i switched to artix | May 08 21:31 |
| bnchs | also i was /AWAY | May 08 21:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | wb | May 08 21:32 |
| bnchs | also i didn't have a choice, and i didn't even change something remotely to the interface names | May 08 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Ukraine plunged into war. Stock market in free fall. Business Insider be like: "I'm a Brit and the color of American macaroni and cheese upset me!" | May 08 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, ^ | May 08 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | "My husband is watching movies I already have on Blu Ray, but they are on some stupid Amazon stick where Kevin Hart is screaming about credit cards every few minutes. | May 08 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | :/ What have I done?" | May 08 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | I have some Blu Rays because they turn up cheap at the thrift stores. | May 08 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Their pricing is really hit or miss. | May 08 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like you can get 7 DVDs for a dollar now. A dollar! One dollar! Gets you 7 DVDs. | May 08 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when these came out and they were selling players for $500 and movies for $35, per disc, in the 1990s! | May 08 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | They could get away with that easily back then because nobody had the established infrastructure to just dump the discs and share them on BitTorrent. | May 08 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Mom asked me what I was doing and I said I finally got around to getting Frost/Nixon. | May 08 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | The Eleventh Doctor told Nixon "Say hi to David Frost for me.". | May 08 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I was imitating Nixon. "I'm saying that when the president does it, it's not illegal! I am not a crook! I've earned everything I've got!". | May 08 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was doing that with a pair of lobsters one day. | May 08 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Tossing them back and forth (they were frozen) so their claws would swing around, before I threw them in the water. | May 08 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | "I am not a crook! I am not a crook!" | May 08 22:04 |
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| techrights-news | Free software dev in France https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/08/europe-trip-journal-entry-6-laundry-day/ | May 08 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jabberhead.tk | Europe Trip Journal – Entry 6: Laundry Day – vanitasvitae's blog | May 08 22:17 | |
| techrights-news | On forms of apparent progress ⚓ https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=2523 ䷉ Source: fsfe | May 08 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.fsfe.org | On forms of apparent progress « Paul Boddie's Free Software-related blog | May 08 22:19 | |
| techrights-news | Kevin Fenzi: Onlykey DUO https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2022/05/08/onlykey-duo/ | May 08 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scrye.com | Onlykey DUO – Kevin's musings | May 08 22:19 | |
| techrights-news | The Root Commander is a homemade MIDI controller ensures you never play the wrote note | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/08/this-homemade-midi-controller-ensures-you-never-play-the-wrote-note/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | May 08 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Root Commander is a homemade MIDI controller ensures you never play the wrote note | Arduino Blog | May 08 22:23 | |
| techrights-news | CrowPI2: Reviewing the Famous all-in-one STEM Solution • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164611 | May 08 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CrowPI2: Reviewing the Famous all-in-one STEM Solution | Tux Machines | May 08 22:28 | |
| techrights-news | 4 Major Distros in the History of Linux That Shaped the Linux World • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164612 | May 08 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Major Distros in the History of Linux That Shaped the Linux World | Tux Machines | May 08 22:28 | |
| techrights-news | mdSilo is an outstanding open-source note-taking app for the active mind ⚓ https://medevel.com/mdsilo-note/ "mdSilo is released under the GNU Affero General Public License v3.0." ䷉ Source: medevel | May 08 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | mdSilo is an outstanding open-source note-taking app for the active mind | May 08 22:30 | |
| techrights-news | Conflating patents with "innovation" to help the EPO spread mindless propaganda, supportive of an agenda to grant fake patents in bulk https://eindhovennews.com/news/2022/04/eindhoven-continues-to-be-the-innovation-hub/ | May 08 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eindhovennews.com | Eindhoven continues to be the innovation hub - Eindhoven News | May 08 22:35 | |
| techrights-news | "On 22 April 2022, the Danish Eastern High Court handed down its decision in yet another dispute concerning applied art and the question of originality and infringement under copyright law." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/05/guest-post-second-time-is-charm-danish.html seems generic to me... | May 08 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Second time is a charm: Danish design company wins plant box war - The IPKat | May 08 22:36 | |
| techrights-news | "My personal music player on Linux is MPD + NCMPCPP but if you want a more contained solution then how about you try out musikcube which even has an android app to control it." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NNyEfdLWHSU | May 08 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | MusikCube: All In One Player, Library & Streaming - Invidious | May 08 22:37 | |
| techrights-news | Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.18-rc6 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164613 | May 08 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.18-rc6 | Tux Machines | May 08 22:45 | |
| techrights-news | Free Software: mdSilo, Greenwash, and Magda • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164614 | May 08 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: mdSilo, Greenwash, and Magda | Tux Machines | May 08 22:45 | |
| techrights-news | Devices: ICP, Ardunino, and Canaan/RISC-V • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164615 | May 08 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: ICP, Ardunino, and Canaan/RISC-V | Tux Machines | May 08 22:45 | |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/s-2 | May 08 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - S | May 08 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | Vista 11 is a giant eXPeriment and its users are subjects https://dekisoft.com/amd-driver-crashes-on-windows-11/ | May 08 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fix AMD driver keeps crashing while playing games on Windows 11 - DekiSoft | May 08 22:51 | |
| techrights-news | "A quick summary of it is that Jakob managed to implement Derek Sivers's method of staying in touch with hundreds of people[2], by which you categorize people into four levels of importance that dictate how often you should contact them. Sort of like MySpace's top friends feature but even more punishing." gemini://envs.net/~negatethis/response-to-greenfeld.gmi | May 08 22:52 |
| techrights-news | "But to be honest, the cool thing about Gemini has always been implementing stuff, not the content itself. I guess many people feel the same way." gemini://hannuhartikainen.fi/twinlog/2021-01-06_away.gemini | May 08 22:54 |
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| SomeH4x0r | hi | May 08 23:01 |
| matey | hi | May 08 23:01 |
| techrights-news | "when I typed into google "weather s" it gave me the weather south of me" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi while registering what was on your mind, which is a "side purpose" of Gulag | May 08 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Wow. 10,000 people have seen my review of the Battery Asshole. | May 08 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's only been up for a few weeks. | May 08 23:04 |
| matey | thatll teach him | May 08 23:05 |
| matey | gnu+linux, meet battery+arsehole | May 08 23:06 |
| bnchs | lol "seen" | May 08 23:06 |
| bnchs | as if what's their definition of seen | May 08 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | "What's the matter, bitch? Why aren't you laughing?" | May 08 23:07 |
| *Skywave has quit (connection closed) | May 08 23:07 | |
| DaemonFC | "Because there's nothing funny about a dickless moron with a battery up his ass!" | May 08 23:07 |
| *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4ebk9724jjdmq.irc) has joined #techrights | May 08 23:07 | |
| matey | /me thinks the stores reputation might "diehard" | May 08 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | with a vengeance | May 08 23:08 |
| matey | yipee ki yyippee ki yay, motherfucker | May 08 23:10 |
| matey | my keyboards getting too old for this shit | May 08 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | Well, at least they solved for how to get 90 blocks in half an hour in New York City. | May 08 23:13 |
| matey | fair enough | May 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | They left a gold bar worth $100,000 in the back of a Yugo. | May 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Another great moment. | May 08 23:15 |
| matey | /me wonders what the gdp of yugoslavia was that year | May 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the movie came out in 1995. | May 08 23:18 |
| techrights-news | Links 08/05/2022: A Look at CrowPI2 and Release of Linux 5.18 RC6 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/release-of-linux-5-18-rc6/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/release-of-linux-5-18-rc6/ | May 08 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 08/05/2022: A Look at CrowPI2 and Release of Linux 5.18 RC6 | Techrights | May 08 23:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Hyperinflation was rampant between 1992-1994. | May 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Probably about as much as a Yugo. | May 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Which is where we'll be if Biden is in there much longer. | May 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Countries tend to experience Hyperinflation right before one of three things happens. | May 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | A political revolution, a violent overthrow, or the country breaking up into several successor states. | May 08 23:21 |
| matey | so 100,000 would be about 5 times the gdp of yugoslavia around that time | May 08 23:22 |
| matey | a little less | May 08 23:22 |
| matey | and how far do you think the usa is from hyperinflation? | May 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | The BLS says it's 9.68% on an annual basis right now. | May 08 23:23 |
| bnchs | i found a old emacs script from 1988 | May 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the government has every reason to lie. | May 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | If they lie and say it's lower, then benefit payments grow more slowly and taxes go up. | May 08 23:24 |
| matey | /me found an old command shell from the 1970s | May 08 23:24 |
| matey | "if" they lie | May 08 23:24 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/disney-is-still-trying-to-avoid-paying-its-writers/ | May 08 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Disney Is Still Trying To Avoid Paying Its Writers | Techdirt | May 08 23:25 | |
| bnchs | lol | May 08 23:25 |
| bnchs | the same old disney | May 08 23:25 |
| matey | /me found a curry that makes a certain beer taste like donuts | May 08 23:26 |
| matey | ill be back in a week. | May 08 23:26 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/827089.jpg | May 08 23:26 |
| bnchs | what happened to the old adult swim classics | May 08 23:26 |
| MinceR | miraculin curry? | May 08 23:26 |
| matey | its got thai chili peppers <3 | May 08 23:27 |
| matey | the ones that are like more impressive peppers except not as impressive and much easier to find | May 08 23:27 |
| matey | but the beer is belgian style or something | May 08 23:27 |
| matey | and if you eat the curry and drink the beer, the beer tastes like donuts | May 08 23:27 |
| matey | i dont even know why, i refuse to question it | May 08 23:28 |
| matey | the last time i went to a krispy kreme it was in washington dc though | May 08 23:29 |
| matey | this is nearly as good | May 08 23:29 |
| matey | /me doesnt know why they call it that, roughly zero of their donuts are crispy | May 08 23:30 |
| matey | crispy donuts probably wouldnt be huge sellers, but i dont pretend to know what the market really wants | May 08 23:31 |
| matey | they all have smartphones, ergo they are crazy | May 08 23:31 |
| matey | if its a crispy donut you want, i recommend a stroopwaffel | May 08 23:32 |
| matey | which i always assume was the forces hitler sent in to take over bakeries, but whatever | May 08 23:33 |
| matey | "mein fuhrer, the bakeries are all plotting against us" "send in the stroopwaffel" | May 08 23:33 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164616 | May 08 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 23:33 | |
| matey | "ja wohl" | May 08 23:33 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164617 | May 08 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 08 23:33 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164618 | May 08 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 08 23:34 | |
| DaemonFC | No no no. | May 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's "Mein Fuhrer, Steiner.....". | May 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | "The bakeries are plotting against us...." | May 08 23:34 |
| matey | the director loves the hitler reacts videos | May 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | They explain nervously how bad the situation is. | May 08 23:34 |
| matey | of the original | May 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hitler goes crazy. | May 08 23:34 |
| matey | hehehe | May 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Demands the stroopwafel. | May 08 23:35 |
| matey | :D | May 08 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Blames the SS that they don't have any. | May 08 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Shoots himself in the head. | May 08 23:35 |
| matey | "mein fuhrer... steiner... he ate the last stroopwaffel" | May 08 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | "FUCK!!!!!" | May 08 23:35 |
| matey | "IVE BEEN CRAVING STROOPWAFFELS ALL WEEK!" | May 08 23:36 |
| matey | *woman cries* "dont worry, i know a place we can buy more of them" | May 08 23:36 |
| matey | /me wonders if theyll still make new hitler reacts videos 10 years from now | May 08 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Well, yeah, WEST Germany will have a ton of them due to the Capitalist demand economy while the East Germans will be blowing up their coffee machines wiht 49% coffee packets. | May 08 23:37 |
| matey | thank churchhill, it was all his idea | May 08 23:37 |
| matey | the way they split things up after the war | May 08 23:38 |
| matey | he was a dick | May 08 23:38 |
| matey | of course, to be fair | May 08 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Then at the end of the day, when the stroopwafel demand was not as high as it averaged, they'll mark down the day old stroopwafels by half to bring the market demand to stroopwafel equilibrium, and the East Germans will get shot in the back by their own soldiers trying to get at them | May 08 23:39 |
| matey | they didnt actually HAVE TO create the fucking stasi | May 08 23:39 |
| matey | but it must have seemed like a good idea at the time | May 08 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | And that's where Ronald Reagan shouts "Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!". | May 08 23:39 |
| matey | Then at the end of the day, when the stroopwafel demand was not as high as it averaged, they'll mark down the day old stroopwafels by half to bring the market demand <- like they dont do that now | May 08 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | "REAGAN SMASH! REAGAN SMAAAAAAASH!" | May 08 23:40 |
| matey | seriously, i can walk about two blocks and get you a stroopwaffel thats nearly old enough to vote | May 08 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Capitalism produces more than it anticipates the market needing, because as long as it can reduce costs to clear out a little excess inventory, they're doing better than if they aim low and don't have enough to sell. | May 08 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | Communism falls apart because central planning figures that they can dictate what demand will be and what wages are, and then you have black markets. | May 08 23:41 |
| matey | someone needs to tell them theyre not twinkies, shelf life isnt the same thing as half life | May 08 23:41 |
| matey | im pretty sure the communists anticipated black markets | May 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't mind them, at least. | May 08 23:42 |
| matey | well the bureaucracy certainly didnt | May 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Officially, they didn't tolerate them, but they persisted in part because the politicians themselves ended up shopping there in the end. | May 08 23:42 |
| matey | after all, it was the same thing they were doing | May 08 23:42 |
| matey | Officially, they didn't tolerate them <- a bit like americas reaction to hitler | May 08 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | And if there's a universal truth about politicians, they always manage to end up rich, even in Communist countries, somehow. | May 08 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | And it's always at the direct expense of the public, but in a "worker's state" you'd expect something more modest. | May 08 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | And yet that's not what happens. | May 08 23:44 |
| activelow | dvtm is awesome, combined with nnn for example, this fully replaces midnight commander, is modular etc... | May 08 23:44 |
| matey | even in Communist countries, somehow. <- as long as rich is a relative thing, politicians taking advantage of their position isnt harder in a communist country as long as the leader is insane | May 08 23:44 |
| activelow | dvtm can be bundles into any desired application, such as irc session handling for ii etc. | May 08 23:44 |
| activelow | bundled | May 08 23:44 |
| matey | And it's always at the direct expense of the public <- corruption generally is | May 08 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Leaders are usually insane. | May 08 23:44 |
| matey | its not a requirement, but it certainly happens a lot | May 08 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | Because the most insant people are the ones who respond to insane politicians. | May 08 23:45 |
| activelow | if i didn't ditch glib, tmux, irssi and various other then i had not bothered with dvtm and not discovered the power of this | May 08 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | Until things spiral so far out of control that more moderate people can't take it anymore, and they vote based on who sounds more reasonable. | May 08 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | So it tends to go crazy, more normal, crazy, more normal, and so on. | May 08 23:45 |
| matey | which is too easy to fake in a crisis | May 08 23:45 |
| matey | just dont give a damn, and say whatever people obviously want to hear | May 08 23:46 |
| matey | any sociopath can do it | May 08 23:46 |
| matey | vote for marisol | May 08 23:46 |
| matey | "an airpod on every table" | May 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering wearing a VOTE SAXON button to the polls this year. | May 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | And seeing if anyone there even realizes what that is or thinks I'm politicking. | May 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8529551#e6322630ac8f013a5e8628a1592b385a | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | "Snap is a PITA. It is better changing distro (Debian, Trisquel, Fedora, Opensuse, Mageia)." | May 08 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diaspora.psyco.fr | Ubuntu Cinnamon 22.04 -- A great 22.04 release! http://www.tuxmachi... | May 08 23:49 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gssXrqIH2aY | May 08 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Kellogg´s SCP83 1983 Snap Crackle Pop - Invidious | May 08 23:54 | |
| matey | i can see why jesus didnt bother coming back | May 08 23:57 |
| matey | just this recording is reason enough to stay home | May 08 23:57 |
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