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| schestowitz | his third wife is divorcing him | Nov 10 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | and he won't be getting sex with his daughter any time soon | Nov 10 00:00 |
| schestowitz | though he can always pay pr0n stars whom he tells they "remind me of my daughter" | Nov 10 00:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.businessinsider.com/stormy-daniels-trump-ivanka-daughter-2018-3?r=US&IR=T | Nov 10 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Stormy Daniels says Trump told her 'you remind me of my daughter' - Business Insider | Nov 10 00:01 | |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/17/af9936bafd40b4c7.mp4 | Nov 10 00:01 |
| schestowitz | https://me.me/i/dsiam-you-remind-me-of-my-daughter-follow-us-at-21315648 | Nov 10 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dsiam YOU REMIND ME OF MY DAUGHTER Follow Us at the Everlasting GOP Stoppers << | Gop Meme on ME.ME | Nov 10 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/IFNnD | Nov 10 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"You remind me of my daughter..." - Album on Imgur | Nov 10 00:02 | |
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| MinceR | > Trump is a ghast | Nov 10 00:03 |
| MinceR | dangerous undead! kill it quickly! | Nov 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | https://imgflip.com/i/27d2cx | Nov 10 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Image tagged in trump mitch - Imgflip | Nov 10 00:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where did you hear of a divorce? | Nov 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | see the news | Nov 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | trump aide | Nov 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | some tabloid took it further | Nov 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | and actually said they're divorcing | Nov 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | without direct and complete proof | Nov 10 00:04 |
| MinceR | "You're a funny guy Sully, I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last." | Nov 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Said the lion | Nov 10 00:05 |
| MinceR | no, said John Matrix | Nov 10 00:05 |
| schestowitz | what's that? | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | who's that? | Nov 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | matrix on the toilet bowl? | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Him? https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/17/af9936bafd40b4c7.mp4 | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | (her?) | Nov 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | (they?) | Nov 10 00:07 |
| MinceR | no, not that cat | Nov 10 00:08 |
| MinceR | the protagonist of Commando | Nov 10 00:08 |
| Ariadne | I am planning on doing so | Nov 10 00:10 |
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| Ariadne | so I bought an xbox series x | Nov 10 00:11 |
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| Ariadne | this shit still requires AA batteries | Nov 10 00:11 |
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| MinceR | lol | Nov 10 00:24 |
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| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/02/61d343087570d45d.jpg | Nov 10 00:56 |
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| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/02/68c1e97b2b84a67e.jpg | Nov 10 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The Klingon is not a real Klingon. Truly a No True Scotsman fallacy. | Nov 10 01:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/several-us-utilities-back-out-deal-build-novel-nuclear-power-plant | Nov 10 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencemag.org | Several U.S. utilities back out of deal to build novel nuclear power plant | Science | AAAS | Nov 10 01:38 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Nowhere is Bill Gates mentioned. | Nov 10 01:38 |
| schestowitz | why? | Nov 10 01:42 |
| schestowitz | he has some stakes with Nathan Trollville | Nov 10 01:42 |
| schestowitz | but is this directly related to him? | Nov 10 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Gates was backing these | Nov 10 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pitching them as a solution to climate change. | Nov 10 01:43 |
| schestowitz | this particular set of companies? | Nov 10 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now the utility companies are backing off and Trump was trying to bail it out with DOE money. | Nov 10 01:44 |
| schestowitz | (I did not read it) | Nov 10 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nuscale, yeah. | Nov 10 01:44 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but not only Gates said that | Nov 10 01:44 |
| schestowitz | or backed that financially | Nov 10 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Is this article about this company alone? | Nov 10 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, as it relates to the utilities that are backing out of it. | Nov 10 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said it would cost too much to bother investing in. | Nov 10 01:45 |
| schestowitz | where does it mention this one specifically? | Nov 10 01:45 |
| schestowitz | can't just look for any article about nukes (power) or vaccine and blame only "Gates"! | Nov 10 01:47 |
| schestowitz | That would sound silly and petty | Nov 10 01:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I am doing a meme about your BFF | Nov 10 01:48 |
| schestowitz | RIAAn | Nov 10 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Biden | Nov 10 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Riden Biden | Nov 10 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Rianne? Nope. | Nov 10 01:48 |
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| MinceR | https://nitter.net/japantimes/status/1325671995481202690 | Nov 10 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | The Japan Times (@japantimes): "Meet 'Jo Baiden,' the internet-famous mayor of a small Japanese town http://jtim.es/OjDk30rj8AF" | nitter | Nov 10 01:50 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: MinceR http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/drake-riaa-meme/ | Nov 10 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] For Free Software to be Freedom-Respecting Its Development and Distribution Need to be Decentralised and Widely Distributed, Not Centralised and Monopolised by Microsoftโs GitHub | Techrights | Nov 10 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | can you spot typos? | Nov 10 01:51 |
| MinceR | i can't spot any, but i don't understand why merkel would care about shithub | Nov 10 01:54 |
| schestowitz | merkle trees | Nov 10 01:54 |
| schestowitz | IPFS above here | Nov 10 01:54 |
| schestowitz | *her | Nov 10 01:54 |
| MinceR | ouch | Nov 10 01:55 |
| MinceR | i'd gladly replace all of the Christian Fundamentalist Union (CDU+CSU) with a Merkle tree | Nov 10 01:55 |
| schestowitz | aye | Nov 10 01:57 |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/20/7281eae7b94e9098.jpg | Nov 10 01:59 |
| XRevan86 | "recent events in GitHub" โ sounds like GitHub being an event tracker | Nov 10 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | "as GNU had warned years before Microsoft bought it" โ ambiguous pronoun | Nov 10 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "but for those are are baffled" โ "I can't spot any" :P | Nov 10 02:04 |
| MinceR | yes, those aren't easy to spot | Nov 10 02:05 |
| MinceR | like "the the" | Nov 10 02:05 |
| XRevan86 | "To be very, very clear (and avoid misunderstandings)" โ I'd rather word it like "and to avoid any misunderstanding" | Nov 10 02:05 |
| XRevan86 | "we are glad that Joe Biden beat Donald Trump" โ beaten? | Nov 10 02:07 |
| MinceR | beaten is past participle | Nov 10 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not sure how exactly "beat" functions here. | Nov 10 02:09 |
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| XRevan86 | "and that sort of pressure too isnโt guaranteed to accomplish anything" โ what guarantees here? no auxiliary pronoun here. | Nov 10 02:10 |
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| XRevan86 | "and even that sort of pressure isn't a guarantee that anything will be accomplished" โ this is how I would've said it. | Nov 10 02:13 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm such a picky little prude that I notice everything :) | Nov 10 02:14 |
| MinceR | i don't see what this has to do with being a prude :> | Nov 10 02:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 10/11/2020: Grep 3.6, LiVES 3.2.0 and Curl Developer Daniel Stenberg Gets US Visa After 3-Year Limbo โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/grep-3-6/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/b3aafae3-4120-472d-9cfe-aaff8b5bf4c9] | Nov 10 02:17 | |
| XRevan86 | The connotation is not rightโฆ a pedant | Nov 10 02:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 10 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | orโฆ a C programmer | Nov 10 02:20 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in #Techrights โข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144194 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ee7d4e06-110f-4576-a67d-3a843baf66f4] | Nov 10 02:21 | |
| MinceR | C program run. C program crash. C programmer cry. | Nov 10 02:22 |
| XRevan86 | C programme corrected, C programme run, C programme leak, C programmer run vinagre, C programmer cry | Nov 10 02:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 10 02:24 |
| MinceR | programme? how british of you :> | Nov 10 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You just noticed, mate? | Nov 10 02:25 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 10 02:25 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/16/f854a84f7bcb964a.mp4 | Nov 10 02:31 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: its not right to use Beaten trump yet with Biden as Trump could go to the courts yet. | Nov 10 02:33 |
| oiaohm | USA law does not make it absolute that you have to win the vote. | Nov 10 02:33 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Does it make sense to use "beat"? he beat him | Nov 10 02:34 |
| XRevan86 | Now that I wrote this I understand that this is past tense and now I feel silly. | Nov 10 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | But the oiaohm's remark applies to it too, so there's that. | Nov 10 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz My hope was that we'd be called in for interview with immigration after there was a new sheriff in town, so to speak. | Nov 10 02:37 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Biden has technical beat Trump in the in the votes. So beat is kind of right. Beaten is past as in over. While trump has the courts its not over.. | Nov 10 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of the first batches of executive orders is to incinerate everything Trump did on Immigration. | Nov 10 02:37 |
| oiaohm | We all wish we could say Trump is beaten. | Nov 10 02:38 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Right, I see. | Nov 10 02:38 |
| XRevan86 | up as well :) | Nov 10 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That idiot is going to sit and watch everything he did get thrown into a big fire and all he can do is complain and possibly get banned from Twitter finally. | Nov 10 02:39 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: also remember Trump has not conceded either. So is still attempting to fight the result. | Nov 10 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It won't work. | Nov 10 02:40 |
| oiaohm | Basically Biden and Trump we are mid fight with Trump looking horrible beat up and demarding to return to the ring. | Nov 10 02:40 |
| XRevan86 | It really won't. It's pathetic. | Nov 10 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not only won't it work, many Republicans have all called to congratulate Biden and tell Republicans to shut the fuck up and accept that they lost. | Nov 10 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Like a Black Night. | Nov 10 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | * Knight | Nov 10 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even Fox News is now cutting away from his pressers and refusing to broadcast it. | Nov 10 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | 'Tis but a scratch! | Nov 10 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: So he's become a liability, that's very nice. | Nov 10 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This Trump "I was cheated." shit show is so sad to watch that not even the open sewer of Fox News is interested in being part of it anymore. | Nov 10 02:44 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs Yep very much the monty python black knight and trump is the black knight. | Nov 10 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monty Python - The Black Knight - Tis But A Scratch - YouTube | Nov 10 02:45 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's like Russia Today cutting away from Putin. I mean, you'd never expect it in a million years. | Nov 10 02:45 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: horrible part is Australian sky news that is basically sub of Fox News is in boots and all with trump. | Nov 10 02:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 10 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: The whole system and media are dependent on Putin, so they really will go down with him. | Nov 10 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For what it's worth, I'm sorry that just barely enough of my country was foolish enough to select his electors last time. If it helps, he didn't get a majority or anything close to it in the popular vote. | Nov 10 02:47 |
| XRevan86 | If the numbers are in I'll calculate the results with the equal states voting. | Nov 10 02:48 |
| MinceR | i'm guessing this is not enough of a lesson for the "democrats" to make them start trying to fix this atrocious system | Nov 10 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He did get more votes this time, but it was because he found some more scumbuckets to turn out apparently, but you can't just do very well in Indiana, obviously. Not in an electoral college system. | Nov 10 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | It's pretty obvious that they'll be in between the popular vote and the electoral college results. | Nov 10 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's not in their interests, they know how to challenge Republicans. | Nov 10 02:50 |
| MinceR | yes, i can see | Nov 10 02:50 |
| MinceR | it worked so well in 2016 | Nov 10 02:50 |
| XRevan86 | An open political field will catch them off guard. | Nov 10 02:50 |
| MinceR | and in 2000 | Nov 10 02:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And the alternative is fading into obscurity | Nov 10 02:51 |
| MinceR | and in 1888 | Nov 10 02:51 |
| MinceR | and in 1876 | Nov 10 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | While parties with better programmes take the lead. | Nov 10 02:52 |
| MinceR | and never, ever, for the "democrats" | Nov 10 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You went too far back, they were flipped back then. | Nov 10 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | Democrats were the evil twin back then | Nov 10 02:52 |
| MinceR | yes, but the name and identity of the parties is the same | Nov 10 02:53 |
| MinceR | and they don't care about good or evil, they only care about power | Nov 10 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | Ironically, because republicans are red as in calling for change :) | Nov 10 02:54 |
| MinceR | well, they're calling for change... towards a dictatorship | Nov 10 02:54 |
| XRevan86 | and republican as in they don't want just a democratic monarchy or whichever the UK has | Nov 10 02:54 |
| MinceR | that's called a constitutional monarchy | Nov 10 02:55 |
| MinceR | and neither of them deserve their names | Nov 10 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | It's just another example how a political party or symbolism can change, to a literal opposite. | Nov 10 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Pretty much so, they will undermine anything if it helps them gain power, even going to a dictatorship. | Nov 10 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | Typical Lukashenko. | Nov 10 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe if the movement for reform of the shit vote counting system is strong and vocal enough, they'd actually deliver. But I don't think they'll express initiative in this matter. | Nov 10 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | It's obvious that the Republicans are strongly against counting on popular vote, but removing the electoral college in favour of state relative counting just might get universal support. | Nov 10 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | It does shift power away from the Republicans, but reduction of randomness might be considered worth it even by them. | Nov 10 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | This is not enough though and something to replace the second level of FPTP is also necessary, like a second tour system. Now this aspect is more controversial, because the only thing this solves is the two party hegemony in the presidential election. They wouldn't want that ever. | Nov 10 03:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 10 03:11 |
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| XRevan86 | To be fair, the only reason why I talk about this is because the way counting is done matters a lot in the US. In Russia it's done right, but it doesn't matter. | Nov 10 03:26 |
| XRevan86 | It's pretty strange that Belarus' has FPTP for presidential elections, because Lukashenko fought his political opponents. | Nov 10 03:39 |
| XRevan86 | To make use of the useful properties of FPTP the eternal president should instead foster the opposition, make it bigger and more diverse | Nov 10 03:40 |
| XRevan86 | It's bad when the eternal president has one strong opponent, it's great when two or more. The more the merrier. | Nov 10 03:40 |
| XRevan86 | There's always danger that they'll unite, that should be prevented at all costs. | Nov 10 03:41 |
| XRevan86 | But if the opposition is weak and gives just one candidate, then the eternal president may have a problem that he will have then to fix in post. | Nov 10 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | But if the opposition is weak and gives just one candidate, then the eternal president may have a problem that he will have then to fix in post. | Nov 10 03:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | In Russia, Biden would have "lost" and then had some extra polonium in his coffee one day. | Nov 10 05:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or a ricin umbrella perhaps. | Nov 10 05:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or strangely came down with dioxin poisoning. | Nov 10 05:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or carelessly walked out a window for reasons unknown. | Nov 10 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Russian doctor who lived may even do it a second time for some reason. | Nov 10 05:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There really needs to be a commission on window safety. All of the Russian doctors on the commission will walk out of a window though. | Nov 10 05:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://thetakeout.com/mcdonald-s-mcplant-sends-beyond-meat-stock-into-chaos-1845624026 | Nov 10 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thetakeout.com | McDonaldโs debuts McPlant, sends Beyond Meat stock into chaos | Nov 10 05:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I eat those plant burgers sometimes. | Nov 10 05:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The impossible whopper at burger king is not really that much different from a regular one. | Nov 10 05:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's no small feat I suppose. I never was able to stick to a vegetarian diet for too long even though I felt better and lost weight. | Nov 10 05:37 |
| kingoffrance | nah you dont walk out of windows you accidentally trip and fall | Nov 10 05:54 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, georgia has proportional representation and it didn't stop "Georgian Dream" from fixing it so they have a majority | Nov 10 06:27 |
| scientes | and it didn't stop Germany from having the same twerk for chancellor for eternity | Nov 10 06:28 |
| scientes | the same importer of barbarians | Nov 10 06:28 |
| scientes | who provides them housing, et cetera | Nov 10 06:29 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, Lushenko voted to preserve the USSR | Nov 10 06:32 |
| scientes | shows what type of politician he is | Nov 10 06:33 |
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| schestowitz | [05:35] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- thetakeout.com | McDonaldโs debuts McPlant, sends Beyond Meat stock into chaos | Nov 10 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Company called something mear | Nov 10 07:41 |
| schestowitz | *meat | Nov 10 07:41 |
| schestowitz | but doesn't not do meet | Nov 10 07:41 |
| schestowitz | negation of what they are | Nov 10 07:42 |
| schestowitz | [02:04] <XRevan86> MinceR: "but for those are are baffled" โ "I can't spot any" :P | Nov 10 07:48 |
| schestowitz | now corrected | Nov 10 07:48 |
| schestowitz | that's what I'm asking... ;-) | Nov 10 07:48 |
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| vZS1 | https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st12143-re01en20_783284.pdf | Nov 10 07:55 |
| vZS1 | Don't know if real or fake | Nov 10 07:55 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: https://youtu.be/miCPfjucsB8 | Nov 10 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bert Hubert, PowerDNS - Encryption, data protection and law enforcement - YouTube | Nov 10 07:59 | |
| schestowitz | encryption is only for criminals are all | Nov 10 07:59 |
| schestowitz | and "Soviets" | Nov 10 07:59 |
| vZS1 | Also, looks like security theatre to me | Nov 10 07:59 |
| vZS1 | Because apps don't work without keeping secret keys on the server | Nov 10 08:00 |
| vZS1 | So there's no real encryption solution | Nov 10 08:00 |
| schestowitz | using weakened encryption | Nov 10 08:00 |
| vZS1 | No such thing | Nov 10 08:00 |
| schestowitz | JustAboutEnough(R) | Nov 10 08:00 |
| vZS1 | Ah yes | Nov 10 08:00 |
| schestowitz | NoSuchAgency(TM) | Nov 10 08:01 |
| vZS1 | How could I forget | Nov 10 08:01 |
| vZS1 | Just saying though | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | Nobody would run a processor for 23 hours to crack a password or key | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | because "tl;dr" | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | heck | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | here's a proposal | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | running a single computer operation should be a crime | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | because only a criminal would do that | Nov 10 08:01 |
| schestowitz | and it's "suspicious activity" | Nov 10 08:02 |
| vZS1 | It can't possibly be that all these media outlets gloss over the fact that apss have access to private keys | Nov 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | "it looks like you are attempting to crack a password. Please visit intel.com/suspicioisActivity" | Nov 10 08:02 |
| vZS1 | So any one stupid enough to rely on those apps already have their comms compromised | Nov 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: well, "apps" means mobile typically | Nov 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | the mobile has universal back doors | Nov 10 08:03 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | even Signal is compromised | Nov 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | I can give the Wikileaks/Vault7 URLs for proof | Nov 10 08:03 |
| vZS1 | No need | Nov 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | banking "apps" | Nov 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | JustAboutEnoughSecurity(R) | Nov 10 08:03 |
| vZS1 | What I'm saying is this looks like FUD + misinformation | Nov 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | until it fails | Nov 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | then they will "investigate" | Nov 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | not the holes | Nov 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | but who's exploiting them | Nov 10 08:04 |
| vZS1 | I think it might be an attempt to get criminals to use those apps thinking they're secure | Nov 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | they might need to roll over to the "next back door" | Nov 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | well, petraeus used gmail | Nov 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | though saving messages as "drafts" was secure | Nov 10 08:05 |
| schestowitz | and he had headed cia | Nov 10 08:05 |
| schestowitz | so that tells you what boneheads run those agencies | Nov 10 08:05 |
| vZS1 | I still wouldn't get complacent | Nov 10 08:05 |
| vZS1 | That kind of org is about politics and plutocracy, when it comes to administration | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | a much of covfefe s | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | bunch | Nov 10 08:06 |
| vZS1 | But they still have resources | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | debt | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | some resource | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | canonical still losing by the way | Nov 10 08:06 |
| vZS1 | And endless stream of it | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | give me that money | Nov 10 08:06 |
| schestowitz | I am good at losing money too :-) | Nov 10 08:07 |
| vZS1 | An* | Nov 10 08:07 |
| schestowitz | capital | Nov 10 08:07 |
| schestowitz | he sold a cert giant | Nov 10 08:07 |
| schestowitz | now runs a money-burning machine | Nov 10 08:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe hoping amazon/vmware/microsoft will buy it off him for mindshare/undermining the desktop userbase | Nov 10 08:07 |
| vZS1 | Depends. Revenue increased and earnings were less of a loss than last time | Nov 10 08:09 |
| vZS1 | Thing is, they're not an infrastructure company with big market share. So they can't operate at a loss forever | Nov 10 08:10 |
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| vZS1 | All depends on if they can hit positive earnings in the next few years | Nov 10 08:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/28/nsa_backdoor_wyden/ | Nov 10 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | NSA: We've learned our lesson after foreign spies used one of our crypto backdoors โ but we can't say how exactly โข The Register | Nov 10 08:15 | |
| scientes | schestowitz, lol | Nov 10 08:16 |
| scientes | except it is a fake article | Nov 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | what is? | Nov 10 08:19 |
| vZS1 | I don't trust theregister | Nov 10 08:26 |
| vZS1 | Same boat as zdnet | Nov 10 08:26 |
| schestowitz | sometimes, yes | Nov 10 08:27 |
| schestowitz | I was just writing about zdnet | Nov 10 08:27 |
| schestowitz | the next article for TR | Nov 10 08:27 |
| schestowitz | those sites really just need to retire | Nov 10 08:28 |
| schestowitz | but they're funded by those standing to gain from the misinformation. | Nov 10 08:28 |
| vZS1 | Well that's pretty clear by now | Nov 10 08:28 |
| vZS1 | They must be subsidised by someone because their business model is unsustainable | Nov 10 08:29 |
| vZS1 | Just like Mozilla | Nov 10 08:29 |
| vZS1 | EFF etc | Nov 10 08:30 |
| schestowitz | "These Regulations set out the obligations which may be contained in a technical capability notice given by the Secretary of State under section 253 of the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 (c. 25). A technical capability notice imposes obligations on a relevant operator in order to ensure that the operator has the capability to provide assistance in relation to interception warrants, equipment interference warrants, or warrants or | Nov 10 08:32 |
| schestowitz | authorisations for the obtaining of communications data. A โrelevant operatorโ means a postal operator, a telecommunications operator, or a person who is proposing to become either. " | Nov 10 08:32 |
| schestowitz | https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/353/made | Nov 10 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.legislation.gov.uk | The Investigatory Powers (Technical Capability) Regulations 2018 | Nov 10 08:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://mobile.twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/1325730449180778497/photo/1 | Nov 10 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Twitter | Nov 10 08:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://shadowproof.com/2020/11/09/assange-closing-argument-extradition-case/ | Nov 10 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shadowproof.com | Assange Legal Team Submits Closing Argument Against Extradition | Nov 10 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: today's IRC posting with CIDs in it validated OK | Nov 10 08:46 |
| schestowitz | xhtml passed ok | Nov 10 08:46 |
| schestowitz | after changing the script a bit | Nov 10 08:46 |
| schestowitz | so I think we're no longer in a state of flux and can now fuse together all the scripts on the rapi | Nov 10 08:47 |
| schestowitz | later I can put a cron job on it, if it weren't for need to enter password | Nov 10 08:47 |
| vZS1 | Before you do that | Nov 10 08:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to put any keys on the rapi | Nov 10 08:47 |
| vZS1 | You might want to consider compression | Nov 10 08:47 |
| schestowitz | (for direct access to main server) | Nov 10 08:47 |
| schestowitz | Bandwidth | Nov 10 08:48 |
| schestowitz | TotalIn: 4.3 GB | Nov 10 08:48 |
| schestowitz | TotalOut: 1.8 GB | Nov 10 08:48 |
| schestowitz | 1-2gb a day | Nov 10 08:48 |
| schestowitz | by compression you mean of datastore? | Nov 10 08:49 |
| schestowitz | or in transit? | Nov 10 08:49 |
| vZS1 | Before you feed a file to IPFS | Nov 10 08:49 |
| schestowitz | The indexes will soon grow, about 4000 objects per year | Nov 10 08:49 |
| vZS1 | Compress with xz (on your desktop). | Nov 10 08:49 |
| schestowitz | but then it cannot be accessed easily | Nov 10 08:49 |
| vZS1 | Fair enough | Nov 10 08:50 |
| vZS1 | Just saying it would reduce bandwidth load a fair bit | Nov 10 08:50 |
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| schestowitz | but when it arrives it'll still be compressed | Nov 10 08:50 |
| vZS1 | People using IPFS shouldn't have an issue decompressing a file | Nov 10 08:51 |
| vZS1 | But your files are small | Nov 10 08:51 |
| schestowitz | file sizes aren't the main concern to me, tbh | Nov 10 08:51 |
| vZS1 | So it's not an issue | Nov 10 08:51 |
| schestowitz | they're easily compressible | Nov 10 08:52 |
| schestowitz | plain text, lots of repeating patterns in the text | Nov 10 08:52 |
| vZS1 | Yep. Especially the IRC loss | Nov 10 08:52 |
| vZS1 | logs* | Nov 10 08:52 |
| schestowitz | but I wonder, as it grows >1gb | Nov 10 08:52 |
| schestowitz | will I be able to remove objects only from my local store? | Nov 10 08:52 |
| schestowitz | without removing them from the 'blockchain'? | Nov 10 08:52 |
| vZS1 | Just say IPFS | Nov 10 08:53 |
| schestowitz | it all runs off a tiny microsd card | Nov 10 08:53 |
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| schestowitz | also | Nov 10 08:53 |
| schestowitz | someone asked about freenet | Nov 10 08:53 |
| vZS1 | As long as there are other peers pinning | Nov 10 08:53 |
| schestowitz | [22:41] <tr_guest|18> why IPFS and not Freenet? | Nov 10 08:53 |
| vZS1 | You shouldn't worry about it | Nov 10 08:53 |
| schestowitz | maybe you could respond to that better | Nov 10 08:53 |
| schestowitz | [23:02] <oiaohm> schestowitz: tr_guest|18: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_web_hosting There are not really many choices freenet is lowest performing. The maintained are Freenet, IPFS, Zeronet and dat. Osiris, Maelstrom and Blockstack are basically dead. peerweb.site is the new on on the block don't know if that will last or not. | Nov 10 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Peer-to-peer web hosting - Wikipedia | Nov 10 08:54 | |
| vZS1 | Simple response. IPFS is a practical and working solution. | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | back to my writings | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | lots queues for today | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | in the evening EPO stuff | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | we have lots of new docs | Nov 10 08:54 |
| vZS1 | Working now is better than could be working later | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | be sure to pass around, pin etc. | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | we were slapped by them several times before | Nov 10 08:55 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Nov 10 08:55 |
| vZS1 | Cya | Nov 10 08:55 |
| vZS1 | I'll pin the new stuff when I get back on my computer | Nov 10 08:55 |
| oiaohm | vZS1: there is a downside/upside to the ipfs I gave the link for a reason. If you want anonymous that freenet and zeronet. All of the p2p webtechs still have the spoofing problems. | Nov 10 08:58 |
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| vZS1 | Pinned the new stuff. | Nov 10 09:14 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: you can get Kingston USB3 memory sticks dirt cheap. Just pick up 2 and plug them into the Pi. They won't draw much current. | Nov 10 09:16 |
| vZS1 | rsync one of the sticks periodically as backup. | Nov 10 09:16 |
| vZS1 | Should be more than enough for TR's scale. | Nov 10 09:18 |
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| schestowitz | hmmm.. | Nov 10 09:28 |
| schestowitz | not sure why I thought external backup | Nov 10 09:28 |
| schestowitz | the fs size is small enough to just copy across to the machine already backed up periodically | Nov 10 09:29 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: be careful not all Kingston memory sticks are created equal on speed or power draw. | Nov 10 09:31 |
| oiaohm | Higher speed higher power draw. | Nov 10 09:31 |
| oiaohm | It is possible to exceed a default pi power provide. | Nov 10 09:31 |
| vZS1 | You could do that too | Nov 10 09:32 |
| vZS1 | But having attached storage comes with its own benefits | Nov 10 09:32 |
| oiaohm | 1.2A limit on USB ports of the PI can bite fast. | Nov 10 09:33 |
| oiaohm | That is everything plugged in. | Nov 10 09:34 |
| oiaohm | Keyboard mouse and usb sticks. | Nov 10 09:34 |
| vZS1 | For now though, just transferring to your machine that already gets backed up is a good idea | Nov 10 09:34 |
| vZS1 | The setup I did for you is completely self-contained so you can just lift it and get back up again easily | Nov 10 09:35 |
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| vZS1 | Configuration so far is POSIX-compliant | Nov 10 09:37 |
| vZS1 | So you can apply the manual I wrote for you in any of the BSDs as well. | Nov 10 09:38 |
| oiaohm | There are nas hats for the pi that take them out to bigger powersupplies or using powered USB switches again so you don't run short. | Nov 10 09:38 |
| vZS1 | I think that's important. We shouldn't have a hard dependency on any one OS | Nov 10 09:38 |
| oiaohm | One of the most wrong things I have seen a person do to a poor PI is attempt to run a RGB keyboard that draws 2amps off it. | Nov 10 09:39 |
| oiaohm | Of course the pi did not run. | Nov 10 09:39 |
| vZS1 | For future-proofing reasons, primarily. | Nov 10 09:39 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: can't see URI for IPFS index in the bulletin version. Post with the pigeons. Don't know if lack of URI is intentional or accidental. | Nov 10 10:04 |
| vZS1 | Bulletin from 2020-11-08 | Nov 10 10:05 |
| schestowitz | wait | Nov 10 10:19 |
| schestowitz | you mean you want that page URL added at the top? | Nov 10 10:19 |
| schestowitz | alongside with bulletins index URL? | Nov 10 10:19 |
| vZS1 | Not the top | Nov 10 10:31 |
| vZS1 | There's mention of a URI without the URI | Nov 10 10:31 |
| vZS1 | Adjacent to it | Nov 10 10:31 |
| vZS1 | So how would someone find the URI mentioned? | Nov 10 10:31 |
| schestowitz | I don't quite follow | Nov 10 10:32 |
| schestowitz | you want CIDs inside the articles? | Nov 10 10:32 |
| vZS1 | Give me a second to explain | Nov 10 10:33 |
| vZS1 | So there's a string that says "A full index_of_all_CIDs_is_being_maintained_here". But there's no URI that lets the reader know where "here" is. | Nov 10 10:36 |
| vZS1 | I don't know if it's intentional that you haven't put a URI adjacent to that string or not. | Nov 10 10:36 |
| schestowitz | it's intentional in the sense that I wrote this for HTML | Nov 10 10:37 |
| schestowitz | not for plain text | Nov 10 10:37 |
| schestowitz | we could in principle make that bulletin have citations with [1] numbers .... ___ [1] URL | Nov 10 10:38 |
| schestowitz | I tried that initially but python2/3 incompatibility caused issues | Nov 10 10:38 |
| schestowitz | having said that | Nov 10 10:38 |
| schestowitz | for full links | Nov 10 10:38 |
| vZS1 | No worries. Just highlighting the situation. | Nov 10 10:39 |
| schestowitz | the URLs of all the articles are at top of each bulletin | Nov 10 10:39 |
| schestowitz | in the order of appearance, too | Nov 10 10:39 |
| vZS1 | I didn't notice that | Nov 10 10:39 |
| vZS1 | Let me check. | Nov 10 10:39 |
| schestowitz | I dont' want to write html as though the main target audience is blind (no images) and cannot press links | Nov 10 10:39 |
| vZS1 | I see instructions right at the top of the document but might be worth putting a TODO to generate plaintext versions with URIs next to where hyperlinks should be. | Nov 10 10:42 |
| vZS1 | I don't think any citation system is necessary. Just putting a URI in quotes next to the text that mentions said URI would be enough. | Nov 10 10:43 |
| schestowitz | but which ones? | Nov 10 10:43 |
| schestowitz | cids? | Nov 10 10:43 |
| schestowitz | or http? | Nov 10 10:43 |
| schestowitz | see, you need to know who's reading those and how | Nov 10 10:43 |
| schestowitz | [10:43] <vZS1> I don't think any citation system is necessary. Just putting a URI in quotes next to the text that mentions said URI would be enough. | Nov 10 10:44 |
| schestowitz | might be antithetical to our goal is leaving the www | Nov 10 10:44 |
| schestowitz | as it encourages people to open a web browser | Nov 10 10:44 |
| schestowitz | here's one option | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | for internal links, get date | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | it's part of the URL | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | e.g. President-elect #Biden is Already Being Shifted... to the Right โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | โ 2020/11/10/ | Nov 10 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shiftedโฆ to the Right | Techrights | Nov 10 10:45 | |
| schestowitz | we can then fetch the bulletin for that day | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | or write the expected filename | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | as they're consistently named | Nov 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | than link to that date's URL or CID | Nov 10 10:46 |
| schestowitz | thoughts? | Nov 10 10:46 |
| vZS1 | All I'm saying is that if you mention any content that lives somewhere on the internet, the address should be adjacent to it so a reader can just copy it and look it up. This is regardless of whether they look it up on web, IPFS, etc. | Nov 10 10:47 |
| vZS1 | Right now a reader has to view more than just the plaintext version to get all the mentioned content. | Nov 10 10:47 |
| vZS1 | i.e., the bulletin isn't entirely self-contained. So people have to go on a web browser anyway, to get all the content. | Nov 10 10:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/realneil3/status/1326113119962161152 | Nov 10 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realneil3: Microsoft partners blame Linux for security vulnerabilities that arise from Microsoft backdoors https://t.co/B6t9hk2GfD | Nov 10 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/11/10/security-lies/ ) | Nov 10 10:49 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: they would need a browser regardless to open links | Nov 10 10:50 |
| vZS1 | This isn't about opening links. It's more about knowing what the link is in the first place. | Nov 10 10:50 |
| vZS1 | I hope that makes what I'm trying to say clearer | Nov 10 10:51 |
| schestowitz | it does | Nov 10 10:56 |
| schestowitz | this was similar to what was originally intended BTW | Nov 10 10:56 |
| schestowitz | but technical issues with python versions crept in | Nov 10 10:57 |
| schestowitz | I used something from pypi instead | Nov 10 10:57 |
| schestowitz | it uses underlines to signify links | Nov 10 10:57 |
| schestowitz | without showing full URLs | Nov 10 10:57 |
| schestowitz | showing full URLs would be problematic regardless because of Daily Links | Nov 10 10:57 |
| vZS1 | That's alright. These things happen. I just wanted to bring it up. | Nov 10 10:58 |
| schestowitz | unless we use footnotes with urls for each pertinent article | Nov 10 10:58 |
| schestowitz | like I said, want link? Open URL at the index above | Nov 10 10:58 |
| schestowitz | that's what I made the index for and added text to clarify for each new errand reader | Nov 10 10:58 |
| schestowitz | the links do exist, for attribution to source | Nov 10 10:58 |
| schestowitz | but the links are all omitted, except at the top index, from all those pure text bulletins | Nov 10 10:59 |
| schestowitz | it would not be text if it compels you to "click for more" | Nov 10 10:59 |
| vZS1 | I guess this setup you have now saves on clutter as well | Nov 10 11:00 |
| schestowitz | that too | Nov 10 11:00 |
| schestowitz | I read almost all my news i kate | Nov 10 11:00 |
| schestowitz | it's clean | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I look at text | Nov 10 11:01 |
| vZS1 | As you get the TR links are all in the INDEX | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | no images and hyperlinks | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I used to think/want features in text files | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | that are absent | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | from todo.txt | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | and these bulletins | Nov 10 11:01 |
| schestowitz | like directives | Nov 10 11:02 |
| schestowitz | e.g. click item in index to scroll down | Nov 10 11:02 |
| schestowitz | text files don't do that | Nov 10 11:02 |
| schestowitz | unless there's some implicit support from the text editor | Nov 10 11:02 |
| schestowitz | like understanding what an index is and then some text that explicitly says, "go to line XYZ" | Nov 10 11:02 |
| vZS1 | I think it's best we just stick to dumb plaintext | Nov 10 11:02 |
| schestowitz | the URL can be enough to pull from Internet Archive | Nov 10 11:03 |
| vZS1 | It's like reading a newspaper | Nov 10 11:03 |
| schestowitz | dude/reader: where's the PROOF? | Nov 10 11:03 |
| vZS1 | You just do the looking up manually | Nov 10 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Dude: No link! | Nov 10 11:03 |
| schestowitz | me: open the goddamn page | Nov 10 11:03 |
| vZS1 | lol | Nov 10 11:03 |
| vZS1 | Going to get back to work now. Catch you later. | Nov 10 11:04 |
| schestowitz | In Daily Links, since last month, many headlines come with publication's name next to them | Nov 10 11:04 |
| schestowitz | e.g. "How to blah on Linux distro -- The Linux Herald Tribune Inc." | Nov 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | (hence attribution by name rather than url, like in scholarly publications) | Nov 10 11:06 |
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| MinceR | putler reads too much BOFH | Nov 10 12:32 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Nov 10 13:03 | |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/eu-continues-to-push-for-lawful-access-aka-backdoors-to-end-to-end-encrypted-data/ | Nov 10 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | EU continues to push for lawful access (aka backdoors) to end-to-end encrypted data | Nov 10 13:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19408072 | Nov 10 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: By adding/strapping on and piling up more and more crap -- even #drm these days (!!) -- into Web browsers companies try to just make it an operating system sans hardware drivers. This is all wrong. This is NOT a reader/renderer for Web pages. It's a Trojan horse, controlled remotely. | Nov 10 13:22 | |
| vZS1 | The thing is, HTML, HTTP, these were all just meant to make sharing content easier. A web browser should just provide a pretty interface to data that a user wants. | Nov 10 13:23 |
| vZS1 | All this DRM nonsense only hurts publishers. That's why their stuff gets ripped and torrented. | Nov 10 13:24 |
| vZS1 | If you use DRM, you are treating all your customers like criminals | Nov 10 13:24 |
| vZS1 | Treating customers with respect and not assuming they're criminals helps. If you price reasonably, people will be much less likely to steal your property. | Nov 10 13:26 |
| vZS1 | And copyright/IP violators can be taken to court, if possible. | Nov 10 13:27 |
| vZS1 | We all know DRM doesn't work. | Nov 10 13:28 |
| vZS1 | In the technical sense | Nov 10 13:28 |
| vZS1 | Don't treat your customers like criminals. That's what I say. | Nov 10 13:29 |
| vZS1 | Maybe they'll buy more of your stuff. Who knows | Nov 10 13:29 |
| MinceR | DRM also harms ordinary paying customers | Nov 10 13:30 |
| MinceR | they're the ones who will end up with the DRM-encrusted versions | Nov 10 13:30 |
| MinceR | it also harms those who would produce player devices or software compatible with a DRM-encrusted format | Nov 10 13:31 |
| schestowitz | true | Nov 10 13:34 |
| schestowitz | I never dealt with DRM | Nov 10 13:34 |
| schestowitz | (afaik) | Nov 10 13:34 |
| oiaohm | https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-digital-rights-management-drm-market-was-valued-at-usd-2-948-7-million-in-2019--and-is-expected-to-reach-usd-6-033-7-million-by-2025--registering-a-cagr-of-12-65-during-the-forecast-period-2020-2025--301058448.html | Nov 10 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | The Digital Rights Management (DRM) market was valued at USD 2,948.7 million in 2019, and is expected to reach USD 6,033.7 million by 2025, registering a CAGR of 12.65%, during the forecast period 2020-2025 | Nov 10 13:44 | |
| oiaohm | Be it we like it or not those selling DRM restricted content are seeing increasing purchases. | Nov 10 13:44 |
| schestowitz | https://blog.torproject.org/friends-of-tor-match-2020 | Nov 10 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Use a Mask, Use Tor: Friends of Tor Matching Donations up to $100,000 | Tor Blog | Nov 10 13:44 | |
| oiaohm | I really was wishing consumers would not be buying in. | Nov 10 13:45 |
| schestowitz | con-soo-mass | Nov 10 13:47 |
| scientes | it is WET and COLD outside | Nov 10 13:48 |
| scientes | miserable | Nov 10 13:48 |
| vZS1 | DRM is possibly one of the worst things to invest in. | Nov 10 13:50 |
| vZS1 | But let them burn their money | Nov 10 13:51 |
| scientes | vZS1, if they are cold it might be a better idea to burn the money | Nov 10 13:51 |
| vZS1 | MinceR: yep. It just hurts everyone. But good luck convincing some people. Penny wise, pound foolish. | Nov 10 13:52 |
| vZS1 | The only people that are getting rich off DRM are DRM "solution" providers. | Nov 10 13:53 |
| vZS1 | The snake oil salesmen of our time | Nov 10 13:53 |
| scientes | i'd rather have the snake oil | Nov 10 13:54 |
| scientes | at least it burns | Nov 10 13:54 |
| MinceR | well, in a way, DRM-free sellers are also getting rich off DRM :> | Nov 10 13:54 |
| scientes | ^^^^ | Nov 10 13:54 |
| MinceR | by having DRM redirect business to them | Nov 10 13:54 |
| vZS1 | True true | Nov 10 13:54 |
| vZS1 | DRM-free is a great label to have on your product. | Nov 10 13:55 |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/e1p8ck.jpeg | Nov 10 13:55 |
| scientes | https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/business-commerce-added_sugar-nutritional_advice-sugary_food-nutritional_info-healthy_food-cwln6071_low.jpg | Nov 10 13:57 |
| scientes | geeze, lots of SEO in that url | Nov 10 13:57 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 10 13:58 |
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| smnthermes | https://via.hypothes.is/https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.causaoperaria.org.br%2Fo-passado-racista-de-joe-biden%2F | Nov 10 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-via.hypothes.is | Google Translate | Nov 10 14:49 | |
| smnthermes | "Biden's racist past" | Nov 10 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | smnthermes: I knew there was something... | Nov 10 14:58 |
| schestowitz | he's more like republican | Nov 10 14:58 |
| schestowitz | but they attached him to obama | Nov 10 14:58 |
| schestowitz | to hide that | Nov 10 14:58 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Making green beans in the slow cooker. | Nov 10 15:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These oddly cut pieces of bacon are a lot less expensive, but they're greasier than Donald Trump. | Nov 10 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | "A modest proposal: Rather than further soiling his legacy by persisting in pursuing baseless claims and lawsuits and continuing to demonstate a terrifying degree of mental instability, Trump should" resign https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/11/09/a-modest-proposal-resign-now/ | Nov 10 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Modest Proposal: Resign Now - CounterPunch.org | Nov 10 15:29 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I got a phone call from a contact tracer who was following up about the library. | Nov 10 16:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told them they are ruining our economy and that they can go hell and I mean that in the nicest possible sense, and if I wasn't restraining myself I'd have more to say about what they could do while they were at it. | Nov 10 16:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | * go to hell | Nov 10 16:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If these lockdowns don't end soon the Democrats will take more losses and missed opportunities. | Nov 10 16:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Progressive platform isn't losing them winnable elections, it's constituents who don't like the lockdowns and frankly Biden would have done better. He eeked out a win because Trump is so despised. | Nov 10 16:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Imagine what a stronger Democratic Party candidate would have done. | Nov 10 16:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Primary was a popularity contest but what happened with Biden was the result of Republicans crossing over either because he was more conservative or because they figured they would saddle us with the weakest candidate. | Nov 10 16:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the states should start clamping down a bit on the primaries and make you start registering with a party. | Nov 10 16:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It wouldn't stop the nonsense because in the states that do it, people can just switch parties, but fewer would bother. | Nov 10 16:27 |
| MinceR | but how will the "democrats" cheat at their own primaries then? | Nov 10 16:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR It's public record in Indiana and Illinois which primary you voted in. | Nov 10 16:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I have years where I'm a Democrat or a Republican anyway and then I'm on every mailing list. | Nov 10 16:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The way they look at it is if you're wobbling back and forth you're an independent voter. Might as well try to persuade you. | Nov 10 16:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But there's nothing you can do to persuade me unless you start by denouncing Trump and go from there. | Nov 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And nobody did. | Nov 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the Republicans wasted their money. | Nov 10 16:30 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/lrakV3w.jpg | Nov 10 16:30 |
| MinceR | they wasted a lot more of your money :> | Nov 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | True. | Nov 10 16:30 |
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| scientes | do you ever wonder if you have your ass up your foot? | Nov 10 16:33 |
| schestowitz | [16:07] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz I got a phone call from a contact tracer who was following up about the library. | Nov 10 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: :D | Nov 10 16:35 |
| schestowitz | on what basis? | Nov 10 16:35 |
| schestowitz | also, how did they get your contact details? | Nov 10 16:35 |
| MinceR | https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2015/03/20/happy-spring-from-mad | Nov 10 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | Happy Spring from MAD! | Mad Magazine | Nov 10 16:41 | |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: my opinion of you has improved | Nov 10 16:43 |
| CrystalMath | i just wish you realized just how great Assange is | Nov 10 16:44 |
| CrystalMath | it's not that he's flawless... | Nov 10 16:44 |
| CrystalMath | i remember how he misgendered CHelsea Manning | Nov 10 16:44 |
| CrystalMath | but still, wikileaks did a lot of good for the world | Nov 10 16:45 |
| CrystalMath | exposing the people that want to destroy privacy | Nov 10 16:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I left it for the library CEO while I was reading him the riot act about how stupid contact tracing is. | Nov 10 16:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him I would refuse to use the library again until they stopped and then I went into a tirade about Overdrive. | Nov 10 16:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I support the restaurants who are defying the health department. The news didn't name which ones but if I knew I'd go eat at one of them. Fuck he health department. | Nov 10 16:50 |
| schestowitz | you can sometimes leave just landline number | Nov 10 16:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm a fairly progressive Democrat if we're calling things here but contact tracing and lockdowns are insane. They're nuts. | Nov 10 16:51 |
| schestowitz | in the US COVID is already out of control | Nov 10 16:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're getting fatter, which is a risk factor for COVID. | Nov 10 16:52 |
| schestowitz | contact tracing doesn't scale | Nov 10 16:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People lose their jobs and commit suicide. | Nov 10 16:52 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/11-million-people-after-patient-zero/ | Nov 10 16:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it's opening the door for more generalized spying on the public. | Nov 10 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Contact-Tracing Ploy (Mission Creep/Mass Surveillance) is Only Effective When Dealing With Patient Zero and Few Others, Not Millions | Techrights | Nov 10 16:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the greatest gift to government spooks since terrorism. | Nov 10 16:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Health Department is basically the Democratic Machine's tool to level small business owners, which are mostly Republicans. | Nov 10 16:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Selectively. It's part of the vendetta. They'll send the cops out to shut down the ones they don't want until they file bankruptcy. | Nov 10 16:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats really have nothing to lose here. The giant corporations either do better under lockdown or at least have a war chest to survive and then they do better when they have no independent businesses to deal with. | Nov 10 16:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Did you see the news about the "secret list"? | Nov 10 16:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Illinois state government accidentally turned over a classified report about thousands of outbreaks it had been tracking which was marked "Confidential - DO NOT SHARE" | Nov 10 16:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state is well aware of many outbreaks and it's very embarrassing because it pretty much totally undermines their "shut down the restaurants" bullshit. | Nov 10 16:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It shows that most of them are happening at parties and churches, not restaurants and stores. | Nov 10 16:59 |
| schestowitz | people eat at home | Nov 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | many bring guests | Nov 10 17:03 |
| superkuh | That's because people that go to churches and parties are the type of be ignorant assholes. | Nov 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | and they don't clean the tables too well | Nov 10 17:03 |
| superkuh | At least during a pandemic. | Nov 10 17:03 |
| superkuh | s/of be/to be/ | Nov 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | god will take care of the rest | Nov 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | do your best, lucifer will do the rest | Nov 10 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I referred to the health department as the "Health Department Brownshirts" in my review of the library. | Nov 10 17:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what they're doing. They're going in and busting up people's businesses and ruining their lives because that's what The Party wants. | Nov 10 17:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is utter crap. We need a new viable political party. It has happened before. | Nov 10 17:08 |
| superkuh | ... because there's a pandemic going on. | Nov 10 17:08 |
| superkuh | Did you forget? | Nov 10 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the fuck even cares at this point? | Nov 10 17:09 |
| superkuh | Right. I guess we can't communicate then. | Nov 10 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, we've totally lost control of it anyway. | Nov 10 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At this point it's basically about damage control. What can you REASONABLY do to contain damage? | Nov 10 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And a lockdown after you lose control is like trying to shut down a nuclear reactor that's already melted down by continuing to push buttons. | Nov 10 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean it really sucks, I get it. | Nov 10 17:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But at this point it's masks and hand sanitizer and hope to hell that someone puts out a vaccine that really works. | Nov 10 17:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only reason we're even trying to slow this down is to buy time for some people to get a vaccine and to not overload hospital wards with patient numbers that they can't possibly treat. | Nov 10 17:12 |
| superkuh | The best protection is not going places. | Nov 10 17:12 |
| superkuh | I guess some people can't handle that responsibility. | Nov 10 17:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I'm an evidence-based person. | Nov 10 17:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no evidence that what Illinois is doing is working any better, adjusted for population, than Indiana. | Nov 10 17:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or Iowa. Or Florida. | Nov 10 17:12 |
| superkuh | Yes. Because people like yourself have given up behaving properly and ignorant assholes never did. | Nov 10 17:13 |
| superkuh | All across the USA. | Nov 10 17:13 |
| superkuh | "If they're not gonna do it, why should I?" And you're right. If people don't behave like sane adults what you do won't really help. But it is still best to be the change you want to see in the world. | Nov 10 17:15 |
| superkuh | Same reason I still build websites without javascript. It won't help, but it's what's right. | Nov 10 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I still use masks and hand sanitizer, but I do not agree with the lockdowns. | Nov 10 17:17 |
| superkuh | I am unsure about lockdowns. But personally I have been behaving as if there is a lockdown since early Feb. | Nov 10 17:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People shift behavior, and they poke holes in the system by suing to reopen the churches, and they throw house parties with dozens of people doing drugs and shit. | Nov 10 17:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the lockdowns don't do shit. | Nov 10 17:17 |
| superkuh | But you can still do the right then. | Nov 10 17:18 |
| superkuh | s/then/thing/ | Nov 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You could totally remove the lockdowns and there'd be some increase but it wouldn't be what you'd think because people are still partying and going to church and inviting people they don't live over to have dinner and stuff. | Nov 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Totally subverting the lockdown, but the businesses won't come back. | Nov 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think we have to take a balanced approach here. | Nov 10 17:19 |
| superkuh | Can't control what other people do or what government does. I can only control what I do. | Nov 10 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Balanced towards sensible precautions, but not these lockdowns. These lockdowns are doing permanent damage to the economy, to people's jobs that don't come back. | Nov 10 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe getting a virus that kind of sucks vs. definitely not paying the mortgage and grocery bill. Hmm. | Nov 10 17:20 |
| superkuh | And I'm definitely not going to be buying from any restaurant. | Nov 10 17:20 |
| superkuh | I personally think that people ordering delivery food are also being irresponsible. | Nov 10 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've changed my opinion on the lockdowns after seeing lack of good results. | Nov 10 17:20 |
| superkuh | It's hard to get people to give up primary rewards like food and sex though. | Nov 10 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's bang for your buck sort of thing. | Nov 10 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you take severe economic damage, it might be worth it to slow the spread 90%, but not if you can only slow it down 10 or 15%. | Nov 10 17:21 |
| superkuh | My local city's actions, 2 week shut-downs of businesses/schools, etc has a dramatic and immediate effect on case rate. | Nov 10 17:22 |
| superkuh | Then after the 2 weeks it pops back up. :| | Nov 10 17:22 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/16/5fb708735f6e376a.mp4 | Nov 10 17:28 |
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| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ask#English "from Old English ฤscian (โaskโ)" | Nov 10 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aks#English "from Old English axian (โaskโ)" | Nov 10 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | ask - Wiktionary | Nov 10 17:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | aks - Wiktionary | Nov 10 17:44 | |
| MinceR | https://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2593.html | Nov 10 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... Zuckerberg's new Privacy bit! | Nov 10 17:49 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, did you see the press release by Putin of the peace deal? | Nov 10 17:54 |
| scientes | its #10 on YouTube here in Georgia | Nov 10 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Nay, I can pretty much guess what he says anyway. | Nov 10 17:54 |
| scientes | there will be Russia troops deployed to the region to enforce it | Nov 10 17:55 |
| XRevan86 | Which makes no sense. | Nov 10 17:55 |
| XRevan86 | Armenia capitulated, Russia was on the Armenia's side implicitly. | Nov 10 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | Whom will the troops pacify? Azerbaijan who got what they wanted? | Nov 10 17:57 |
| scientes | which side will the Russia troops get to have sex with? :) | Nov 10 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | I can only see this as a political stunt "look at me, I'm a peacekeeper, peace is happening on my watch" | Nov 10 17:58 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw | Nov 10 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Village People - In the Navy OFFICIAL Music Video 1978 - YouTube | Nov 10 17:59 | |
| XRevan86 | Which is not what Putin's tried to archieve judging from the past actions. Just saving face, eh. | Nov 10 17:59 |
| scientes | you are talking about other conflicts? | Nov 10 18:00 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, I was talking specifically about this conflict, but more broadly also yes | Nov 10 18:00 |
| scientes | they are letting China make all the moves in South America, and then just rubber-stamping them | Nov 10 18:01 |
| scientes | from what I could tell | Nov 10 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | Here it looks like Putin just lost to Erdogan. | Nov 10 18:02 |
| XRevan86 | in a proxy war | Nov 10 18:02 |
| scientes | everywhere I have visited China has a very clear aim and PR push that they will inherit the empire | Nov 10 18:02 |
| scientes | XRevan86, yeah that seem reasonable | Nov 10 18:03 |
| scientes | a higher trending video is a militaristic woman singing "Turkey+Azerbaijan" | Nov 10 18:03 |
| scientes | and Azerbaijan repeatedly lied, and also hacked web sites and other shit | Nov 10 18:04 |
| scientes | in this video there was a little rememberance of Turkey's ethnic clensing of Kurds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrG0PsUiQQo | Nov 10 18:07 |
| vZS1 | superkuh: first time seeing sed scripts used for correcting IRC typos | Nov 10 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Traveled Back in Time... (Surprise Trip!) - YouTube | Nov 10 18:07 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It is what it is, I guess. | Nov 10 18:07 |
| superkuh | I prefer to think in perl compatible regular expressions. | Nov 10 18:08 |
| scientes | XRevan86, that is what I liked about that video I just shared, he has the same attitude "it is what it is" | Nov 10 18:08 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I don't know what other attitude to have in a conflict where the only driving force is ambition. | Nov 10 18:11 |
| scientes | yeah! | Nov 10 18:11 |
| scientes | That kinda summarizes my problem with somewhat distant exposure to muslim cultures. It's the vanity. | Nov 10 18:12 |
| vZS1 | PCRE | Nov 10 18:13 |
| MinceR | seems to be typical of abrahamics in general | Nov 10 18:13 |
| vZS1 | Black magic | Nov 10 18:13 |
| MinceR | "chosen people" and all that bullshit | Nov 10 18:13 |
| MinceR | probably monotheism in general | Nov 10 18:13 |
| MinceR | "only god", "only truth" | Nov 10 18:13 |
| scientes | nah | Nov 10 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Russia is mostly not Muslim, how would you describe it? | Nov 10 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | "repeatedly lied, and also hacked web sites and other shit" | Nov 10 18:14 |
| scientes | well I just saw the claim they took shushan, and I just thought "I can't trust anything anymore" | Nov 10 18:15 |
| scientes | but aparently they actually took it | Nov 10 18:15 |
| scientes | but you summarized it better: ambition | Nov 10 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | They have, yes. | Nov 10 18:15 |
| scientes | you definitely see that ambition in Tolstoy's War and Peace | Nov 10 18:16 |
| vZS1 | superkuh: used Raku? | Nov 10 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You can see it everywhere. | Nov 10 18:16 |
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| superkuh | vZS1, no. Never got into that. I'm still on 5.10 on this machine. | Nov 10 18:17 |
| superkuh | Glad we can finally ignore Raku as something other than Perl. | Nov 10 18:17 |
| scientes | XRevan86, cajones | Nov 10 18:18 |
| vZS1 | I've always seen it as another language. I feel like the people confused about the name never actually bothered to use it. | Nov 10 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: I'd say it's nicer than Perl5. | Nov 10 18:18 |
| vZS1 | Depends on your definition of nicer | Nov 10 18:19 |
| vZS1 | It's different | Nov 10 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | And also horrible in a very Perl way, which is probably a plus for you :) | Nov 10 18:19 |
| scientes | XRevan86, I think the bigger issue to me is how convenient it is to ignore important things for the sake of expedience | Nov 10 18:20 |
| scientes | and just pretend bad news doesn't exist | Nov 10 18:20 |
| vZS1 | I like it | Nov 10 18:20 |
| superkuh | What is important for me is that my huge library of perl scripts not stop working or require changes. | Nov 10 18:20 |
| scientes | like those blinders in The Handmaid Tale | Nov 10 18:20 |
| scientes | I don't say this dismally either | Nov 10 18:21 |
| vZS1 | Just freeze time in a VM | Nov 10 18:21 |
| vZS1 | Problem solved | Nov 10 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: Perl7 might happen, but you can make some reasonable changes now and be safe whatever happens. If you haven't already. | Nov 10 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It's impossible to see the whole picture, so everyone is ignorant in their own way. | Nov 10 18:22 |
| scientes | but I am talking about denial because to accept would require changing one's identity | Nov 10 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Right. | Nov 10 18:23 |
| scientes | I guess ambition is essential for getting anything done | Nov 10 18:23 |
| scientes | so this is just the logical resolution of that | Nov 10 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But it's also hard to justify something when the only thing behind it is "I want this". | Nov 10 18:26 |
| scientes | but people do it all the time! | Nov 10 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | "why did you kill this person?" โ "I want his land." โ "ah, makes sense, good day to you, sir" | Nov 10 18:26 |
| scientes | supposedly there were spontaneous demonstrations in support of the azerbaijani war | Nov 10 18:26 |
| scientes | yet very few people actually signed up for the military | Nov 10 18:26 |
| scientes | XRevan86, but is that not better than the inevitable lies? | Nov 10 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: They do, but international politics are more complicated now, so getting away with just messing with the neighbours is much harder now. | Nov 10 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I don't think there will be any consequences to any aggression here. | Nov 10 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | So it is what it is. | Nov 10 18:28 |
| scientes | "international politics are more complicated now"---I don't think so | Nov 10 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | Technically Azerbaijan reclaimed their own territory, but also, they started a war just because, and that should have consequences. | Nov 10 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | And Turkey for giving the necessary support to start this war. | Nov 10 18:30 |
| scientes | the Turkey thing is very disturbing | Nov 10 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | Turkey is part of NATO, but somehow I don't think NATO will pressure them even a little bit. | Nov 10 18:32 |
| scientes | NATO hardly exists right now, like the EU | Nov 10 18:33 |
| scientes | the shenghen agreement got shredded | Nov 10 18:33 |
| scientes | uggh shenzhen != schengen | Nov 10 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: With Trump escorted out that might change. | Nov 10 18:34 |
| scientes | doesn't change the shredding of the schengen zone | Nov 10 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | I mean the NATO bit. | Nov 10 18:34 |
| scientes | and all the nationalization that happened in Europe | Nov 10 18:34 |
| scientes | if there was a war I don't think anyone would show up | Nov 10 18:34 |
| scientes | these countries are not really capable ofit | Nov 10 18:35 |
| scientes | Germany isn't even capable of building an airport | Nov 10 18:35 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWYTnc7m9mE | Nov 10 18:35 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: I heard of it. | Nov 10 18:35 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I have internet again. | Nov 10 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Catching up with OS updates. | Nov 10 18:48 |
| scientes | https://youtu.be/me4FqdrmVBs?t=788 I am watching this video and I can't but notice that they did not follow the #1 rule of guns "always assume it is loaded". | Nov 10 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Ultra Orthodox vs. The IDF: Israel's Other Religious War - YouTube | Nov 10 18:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2020-49/ | Nov 10 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Security Vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 82.0.3, Firefox ESR 78.4.1, and Thunderbird 78.4.2 โ Mozilla | Nov 10 18:51 | |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Religious nutjobs making a mess, what's new? | Nov 10 18:51 |
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| scientes | I am just thinking "that interviewer is an idiot" | Nov 10 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | conscription also sucks | Nov 10 18:53 |
| scientes | dude, that gun is pointed right at you! | Nov 10 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | It's the government "okay, stop your life, now you're going to a colony, just because" | Nov 10 18:53 |
| scientes | XRevan86, it is a big reason why the Jehovah Witnesses get a tough time in Russia | Nov 10 18:54 |
| scientes | well, to be fair, the JW are OK with mandatory civil service, which has the "stop your life" part | Nov 10 18:54 |
| scientes | the UAE launched a MARS probe | Nov 10 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-mandatory-military-service a map | Nov 10 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-worldpopulationreview.com | Countries With Mandatory Military Service 2020 | Nov 10 18:55 | |
| scientes | that is alot cooler than their silly real estate prrojects | Nov 10 18:55 |
| scientes | https://u.ae/en/about-the-uae/strategies-initiatives-and-awards/federal-governments-strategies-and-plans/national-space-programme | Nov 10 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-u.ae | National Space Programme - The Official Portal of the UAE Government | Nov 10 18:56 | |
| scientes | nice domain name | Nov 10 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | (another misuse of the Mercator projection map) | Nov 10 18:57 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you should start a "Russians for use of Mercator projection" group | Nov 10 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "Russia is 1/4'th of the world!" | Nov 10 18:58 |
| scientes | https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/07/uae-mars-mission-hope-aims-inspire-new-generation-space-scientists/ | Nov 10 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nationalgeographic.com | First UAE Mars mission aims to inspire a new generation of space scientists | Nov 10 18:58 | |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: And get an alliance with the "Greenlandians for use of Mercator projection" group | Nov 10 18:59 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi_yuxxEkwA | Nov 10 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Geography GO! GREENLAND! (Geography now) - YouTube | Nov 10 19:00 | |
| scientes | ^^pretty awesome coverage of Greenland | Nov 10 19:00 |
| scientes | This UAE launch is pretty awesome | Nov 10 19:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The idea of French imperialism is rather funny. | Nov 10 19:07 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Hm? | Nov 10 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Out of all of the countries to engage in Colonialism. | Nov 10 19:08 |
| XRevan86 | Why not? | Nov 10 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The French doing it is rather hard to take seriously. | Nov 10 19:08 |
| XRevan86 | They got lots of colonies in Africa. | Nov 10 19:08 |
| scientes | and in this animation again they show the escape orbit as "going up" | Nov 10 19:08 |
| scientes | ugggh, why do they perpetuate this | Nov 10 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but who doesn't? | Nov 10 19:08 |
| scientes | "there is no GPS in deep space" | Nov 10 19:09 |
| scientes | oh geeze | Nov 10 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even outside of Africa, majority black areas are administered like a colony. | Nov 10 19:09 |
| scientes | also, it probably gets a boost from the moon, and they don't say anything about propulsion | Nov 10 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Consider south Chicago. | Nov 10 19:10 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Why is it funny though? | Nov 10 19:10 |
| scientes | "when it gets close to mars it will have to use its thrusters as breaks"---this is just completely wrong | Nov 10 19:10 |
| XRevan86 | France wanted a slice of that colonial pie, they got it. | Nov 10 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You've got black neighborhoods in Chicago that have been that way for 100 years or more and white people can't just be happy with what they've got. | Nov 10 19:10 |
| XRevan86 | And then they lost it pretty much when everyone else has. | Nov 10 19:11 |
| scientes | hmm, I am only getting one side of this conversation | Nov 10 19:11 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You ignore DaemonFC. | Nov 10 19:11 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: That's not really colonial, it's ghetto-like. | Nov 10 19:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Colonial and Ghetto you know, like the Palestinian areas in Israel, kind of. | Nov 10 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With the Jewish settlements going in all the time. | Nov 10 19:16 |
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| scientes | I find it annoying that space agencies are all about press, and the only place you get some real equations is xkcd | Nov 10 19:18 |
| scientes | especially how they contribute to the confusion | Nov 10 19:18 |
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| scientes | I guess the avoid the equations that point out what a PITA rocket science is | Nov 10 19:25 |
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| scientes | The peacekeeping contingent will remain for a period of five years, with automatic extensions for five year periods if neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan โdeclares six months before the expiration of the period of intention to terminate the application of this provisionโ. | Nov 10 19:27 |
| scientes | geeze | Nov 10 19:27 |
| scientes | 5 years | Nov 10 19:27 |
| scientes | Georgian-Abkhazian movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMDIx71D0tc | Nov 10 19:31 |
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| scientes | uggh, I need to keep practicing my Russian | Nov 10 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | i hope this is fake news: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/10/european-union-moves-to-ban-encrypted-messaging-apps-like-whatsapp/ | Nov 10 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.breitbart.com | European Union Moves to Ban Encrypted Messaging Apps Like WhatsApp | Nov 10 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comcast gave me free tv streaming of some sort. | Nov 10 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Watching one of those History Channel things about swords. | Nov 10 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is not how you would swing a sword in a swordfight. | Nov 10 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That would be putting more strength into it, but you'd be too slow. | Nov 10 20:14 |
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| schestowitz | brietbart thinks whatsapp is "encryption" | Nov 10 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | well, between you and facebook | Nov 10 20:20 |
| schestowitz | the state just goes to facebook for access to the comms | Nov 10 20:20 |
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| MinceR | breitbart are idiots, film at 11 | Nov 10 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | and idiots who read breitbart uses Facebook and WhatsApp | Nov 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | think it's secure | Nov 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | and then get arrested for domestic terrorism or whatnot | Nov 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Apparently FB is very friendly towards such sites | Nov 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | whereas Zucky signed off orders to throttle and ban left-leaning sites, this was in the news earlier this week... | Nov 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | it helps get people "engaged" when there are P-C toxic people in there | Nov 10 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: LF = zoom | Nov 10 21:05 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: any further ipfs suggestions for the daily digests would help | Nov 10 21:05 |
| schestowitz | as 1) I don't know how the dweb/ipfs community "digests" news | Nov 10 21:05 |
| schestowitz | 2) there may still be bugs that I'm unable to spot/understand | Nov 10 21:05 |
| vZS1 | Will need to think about it. | Nov 10 21:07 |
| vZS1 | We just consume indexes. That's about it | Nov 10 21:07 |
| vZS1 | Don't think about it too much. You got the basic workflow going. That's good enough for now. | Nov 10 21:09 |
| vZS1 | I'll get some Git-related automation going, when I get the time. | Nov 10 21:10 |
| vZS1 | Will ping you when it's ready | Nov 10 21:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2020/11/09/health-information-of-thousands-of-people-in-lake-county-accidentally-released/ | Nov 10 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Health information of thousands of people in Lake County accidentally released | Nov 10 21:15 | |
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| vZS1 | Every time I see LF, I just want to barf | Nov 10 21:36 |
| schestowitz | From EPO union: | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | We used to have, as all other international organisations, a salary adjustment procedure. | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | The President is taking advantage of the Coronavirus crisis for rushing through an ill-conceived and detrimental salary adjustment procedure, which does not deserve that name. It is rather a salary erosion procedure. | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Your staff representatives have made a lot of efforts and have proposed compromise solutions (4 detailed and written proposals). All to no avail. All have been disregarded and discredited. Management is only pursuing a brutal solution with the help of costly consultants who have no clue about the salary environment in International Organisations. | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | We are still open to discuss a reasonable compromise. But we refuse to be used as fig leaves if the President wants a to introduce a salary erosion procedure which is there only to cut your purchasing power as a result of a social monologue. | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Read more here. | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Nov 10 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | Your SUEPO Central Committee | Nov 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 21:48 |
| vZS1 | Christ | Nov 10 21:48 |
| vZS1 | Re: zoom. Most people can host any number of conference software quite easily on their personal computer. | Nov 10 21:57 |
| vZS1 | Mumble is a great alternative if VoIP is all you're after. | Nov 10 21:58 |
| schestowitz | yes, mumble is great | Nov 10 21:59 |
| schestowitz | and has private key for e2e enc | Nov 10 21:59 |
| vZS1 | It's quite slick as well. Runs without consuming too much juice | Nov 10 22:00 |
| vZS1 | People don't even need to set up DNS to get this stuff working | Nov 10 22:02 |
| vZS1 | Tbh, I'm not a fan of doing anything work related in a non-text format. | Nov 10 22:05 |
| vZS1 | People just faff on about irrelevant nonsense | Nov 10 22:05 |
| vZS1 | VoIP is great for social stuff like gaming and parties and whatnot | Nov 10 22:06 |
| vZS1 | But for getting real work done, nothing beats a good old-fashioned thread. | Nov 10 22:07 |
| oiaohm | Zoom has a long list of security problems. | Nov 10 22:07 |
| vZS1 | And you don't need to worry about things like minutes of a meeting if it's done via a forum or something similar | Nov 10 22:09 |
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| vZS1 | https://youtu.be/aZyaIQa00eU | Nov 10 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Making Butter By Hand (no, really) - YouTube | Nov 10 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: quick question | Nov 10 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Bandwidth | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | TotalIn: 5.2 GB | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | TotalOut: 2.1 GB | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | RateIn: 26 kB/s | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | RateOut: 2.4 kB/s | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | how does one interpret this | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | 1) is this traffic also for objects other than ours? If so, I don't see many stored locally on the face of it | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | until we locally store very few and serve to many | Nov 10 22:33 |
| vZS1 | Don't forget DHT traffic | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | 2) it seems like the pace of increase is more or less constant | Nov 10 22:33 |
| vZS1 | Peers and all that | Nov 10 22:33 |
| schestowitz | OK, for that I'll need to do more reading | Nov 10 22:34 |
| schestowitz | I saw some people who read techrights pick up ipfs themselves | Nov 10 22:34 |
| schestowitz | so let's hope it spreads | Nov 10 22:34 |
| vZS1 | It shouldn't take long | Nov 10 22:34 |
| vZS1 | Especially for consumers | Nov 10 22:34 |
| schestowitz | web fatigue is growing | Nov 10 22:34 |
| schestowitz | you can read the site from a text editor of the CLI | Nov 10 22:35 |
| schestowitz | literally from the terminal | Nov 10 22:35 |
| vZS1 | Yep. That's what I do | Nov 10 22:35 |
| vZS1 | I look at the index and then just copy the object CID I want | Nov 10 22:35 |
| vZS1 | `ipfs cat CID | less` | Nov 10 22:36 |
| schestowitz | the /txt address is supposed to simplify this, easy to remember what to access | Nov 10 22:36 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 10 22:36 |
| vZS1 | That's why I said getting that plaintext index is very important | Nov 10 22:36 |
| schestowitz | test: | Nov 10 22:36 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt/ | Nov 10 22:36 |
| vZS1 | I've been reading the bulletin only through the terminal, the last couple days | Nov 10 22:36 |
| schestowitz | I guess no <title>, so bot does nothing | Nov 10 22:37 |
| schestowitz | the 'page' is served as just txt, as intended | Nov 10 22:37 |
| schestowitz | php does this | Nov 10 22:37 |
| schestowitz | for the encoding to be utf-8 | Nov 10 22:37 |
| schestowitz | it has some php code for that | Nov 10 22:37 |
| schestowitz | same as http://techrights.org/txt | Nov 10 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I replicated the method across | Nov 10 22:38 |
| vZS1 | Don't forget to tell people to pin | Nov 10 22:39 |
| vZS1 | I've got a full mirror of the everything in the index. | Nov 10 22:39 |
| schestowitz | it says that since Sunday we've had over 2,500 hits on /txt | Nov 10 22:39 |
| schestowitz | based on apache log | Nov 10 22:39 |
| vZS1 | That's up 100% | Nov 10 22:39 |
| vZS1 | Cool | Nov 10 22:39 |
| schestowitz | ipfs/txt at 391 hits | Nov 10 22:40 |
| schestowitz | but that's very new | Nov 10 22:40 |
| vZS1 | Of your server goes down for whatever reason, you have my email. Just send me an updated index and I'll add any pins I'm missing. | Nov 10 22:40 |
| schestowitz | HTML /ipfs 6000+ hits | Nov 10 22:41 |
| schestowitz | since Sunday | Nov 10 22:41 |
| schestowitz | part of Sunday anyway | Nov 10 22:41 |
| schestowitz | I am checking email now | Nov 10 22:41 |
| schestowitz | might take a whole | Nov 10 22:41 |
| schestowitz | *while | Nov 10 22:41 |
| vZS1 | Don't worry about it. No rush. | Nov 10 22:41 |
| vZS1 | I just let you know when I send you things. Think of it like manual notifications. Lol | Nov 10 22:42 |
| schestowitz | it's not helping tbh | Nov 10 22:42 |
| schestowitz | as it creates mental overload | Nov 10 22:42 |
| schestowitz | that's why I do not check mail more than once a day | Nov 10 22:42 |
| schestowitz | so I prefer to know about it only when I deal with it | Nov 10 22:42 |
| vZS1 | Guess you work differently. | Nov 10 22:43 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2019/05/27/reply-in-large-batches/ | Nov 10 22:43 |
| vZS1 | When I get a notification, I make note in my calendar to deal with it | Nov 10 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Want to be Efficient? Disable Notifications. Read and Reply in Large Batches. | Nov 10 22:43 | |
| vZS1 | Otherwise I forget. | Nov 10 22:43 |
| schestowitz | most notifications are junk | Nov 10 22:43 |
| schestowitz | you cannot properly rank importance/urgency | Nov 10 22:43 |
| vZS1 | I've silenced all the junk | Nov 10 22:43 |
| schestowitz | if you found a way | Nov 10 22:44 |
| schestowitz | I made a special inbox for known senders | Nov 10 22:44 |
| schestowitz | with about 50 rules in it | Nov 10 22:44 |
| vZS1 | I don't use social control media. That's about 70% junk dispensed. | Nov 10 22:45 |
| vZS1 | All notifications go off when I'm working. Phone silenced. | Nov 10 22:46 |
| vZS1 | Only thing that stays on is my break timer. | Nov 10 22:46 |
| schestowitz | read message | Nov 10 22:49 |
| schestowitz | thank you | Nov 10 22:49 |
| vZS1 | Yw | Nov 10 22:49 |
| schestowitz | will handle with care | Nov 10 22:49 |
| vZS1 | Looking forward to today's bulletin. | Nov 10 22:49 |
| vZS1 | I usually read it while I'm having breakfast. | Nov 10 22:49 |
| vZS1 | I don't really visit the site anymore | Nov 10 22:50 |
| vZS1 | Prefer just using the terminal | Nov 10 22:50 |
| schestowitz | will back up raspi soon | Nov 10 22:50 |
| schestowitz | over rsync or similar | Nov 10 22:50 |
| schestowitz | no downtime or manual handling needed | Nov 10 22:50 |
| schestowitz | i won't get a soldering gun any sooner than dec 2nd | Nov 10 22:51 |
| vZS1 | Rsync is definitely a good one | Nov 10 22:51 |
| schestowitz | even then friends are not safe to meet | Nov 10 22:51 |
| schestowitz | scp phased out | Nov 10 22:51 |
| vZS1 | Re: meeting friends. Good idea. As much as I'd like to hang out with my mates, it's not going to happen until after lockdown. For everyone's safety. | Nov 10 22:52 |
| schestowitz | re Biden-McCain | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | >> maybe convert it regardless for future use? | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | > Ok. It's a 10-second clip. | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | >> will focus on riaa/freesw | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent. I suppose RIAA is also up to more bad things than usual of | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | > late. | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | We can use this to motivate migrations away from GitHub, which is a HIGH PRIORITY cause. | Nov 10 22:53 |
| vZS1 | Scp is only really good for small jobs. Quickly moving a file or directory, interactively. Rsync is superior for backups. Especially because of the incremental functionality. | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | I think last time I met a friend outside was months ago | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | for shotput | Nov 10 22:53 |
| schestowitz | when new cases were about 500 a day | Nov 10 22:53 |
| vZS1 | I meet up with my best mate once every week or two | Nov 10 22:54 |
| schestowitz | my wife is my best friend, so | Nov 10 22:54 |
| schestowitz | no real urgency in meeting others tbh | Nov 10 22:54 |
| vZS1 | It's more like family for me though | Nov 10 22:54 |
| schestowitz | and the people in the gym are safe to talk to from a distance | Nov 10 22:54 |
| vZS1 | Most projects can run off an old laptop | Nov 10 22:55 |
| vZS1 | Just install Git, bugzilla, and set up DNS. | Nov 10 22:55 |
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| vZS1 | One of the biggest ironies in development is Git being centralised. ๐ | Nov 10 22:56 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent. I suppose RIAA is also up to more bad things than usual of | Nov 10 22:56 |
| schestowitz | > late. | Nov 10 22:56 |
| schestowitz | I linked to the whole McCain speech if someone wants to hear platitudes, but I think it would do more harm than good to reproduce a lot of the thing; the teaser was sufficient for making the point (he ran AGAINST MaCain in 2008... so much for 'opposition'). | Nov 10 22:56 |
| vZS1 | It still cracks me up. Even though it's not something I should be laughing at | Nov 10 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/drake-riaa-meme/ | Nov 10 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] For Free Software to be Freedom-Respecting Its Development and Distribution Need to be Decentralised and Widely Distributed, Not Centralised and Monopolised by Microsoftโs GitHub | Techrights | Nov 10 22:57 | |
| schestowitz | yes, bugzilla still works | Nov 10 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I thought about using it for personal use | Nov 10 22:57 |
| schestowitz | but unless there are many people involved, it's overkill | Nov 10 22:57 |
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| vZS1 | The big problem is the myth that you need to scale like Google to run a project | Nov 10 22:57 |
| schestowitz | todo.txt with indentation is usually enough | Nov 10 22:57 |
| vZS1 | Hope many projects get that big though? | Nov 10 22:57 |
| schestowitz | our git server is on the server itself | Nov 10 22:58 |
| vZS1 | Even then, computers are dirt cheap now | Nov 10 22:58 |
| schestowitz | used locally over ssh | Nov 10 22:58 |
| vZS1 | It's the assumption that GitHub has sold to people | Nov 10 22:58 |
| vZS1 | That you need 100% uptime | Nov 10 22:58 |
| schestowitz | The McCain thing is here BTW; | Nov 10 22:58 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/ | Nov 10 22:58 |
| schestowitz | 10-sec clip | Nov 10 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shiftedโฆ to the Right | Techrights | Nov 10 22:58 | |
| vZS1 | And huge servers | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | there's your new and "good" president... | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | GitHub has 0% uptime | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | for youtube-dl | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | and all its mirrors | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | inc. future branches/fosks | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | github... so reliable | Nov 10 22:59 |
| schestowitz | if Dodd/Biden/Nadella/Brad Smith can farm you | Nov 10 23:00 |
| vZS1 | And guess what | Nov 10 23:00 |
| vZS1 | If you have your own Git server | Nov 10 23:00 |
| vZS1 | You have unlimited minutes of CI! | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | minutes | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | welcome back mainframes and computer time | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | watch some ads | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | we'll exchange them for "time" | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | like youtube does | Nov 10 23:00 |
| schestowitz | we only use yewtu.be now | Nov 10 23:01 |
| schestowitz | "BUT YoUTUbe is FrEEEEE" | Nov 10 23:01 |
| vZS1 | I haven't heard of that one | Nov 10 23:01 |
| vZS1 | I stumbled across PeerTube, not long ago. | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: message to you | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | >> Nobody screwed with the election except Trump. | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > Not true. Nobody screwed with the bi-partisan battle except Trump. | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > Though if we get into details that also isn't true-- the reason we have | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > news of Trump but not of Dems is that Dems did nothing new. | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > If you had my contacts in the Green Party you'd know that Dems | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > interfered with the election as well. But don't expect them to admit to | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > rigging (people at RIAAn's level don't even know about it anyway, and | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > also don't care) any sooner than Trump would admit to being the worst | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > American leader since George III. Of course RIAAn would think that | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > whoever rigs the election less is innocent, because he thinks it's a | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > zero sum game. Anybody who rigs the election is guilty, and IMO unfit | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > for election. But then we differ on a lot of things, like whether both | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > sides should be accountable. RIAAn doesn't like SJW censors like MJG, | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > but when it comes to voter suppression he turns into someone just like | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > him-- referring to voters as "trolls" is *exactly* the sort of thing | Nov 10 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > that Daniel complains about constantly, and I can't blame Daniel for that. | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: debian financial supports peeetube now | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | with excess SPI funds | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | from Google et al | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | as events were canceled | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | they did webstreams instead | Nov 10 23:03 |
| vZS1 | Interesting | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | and need something other than mass uploads to Google | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | which they still do BTW | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Google is their biggest sponsor | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | and they outsources some of their CI to Google servers | Nov 10 23:03 |
| schestowitz | as if it's OK because "not Bezos/Ballmer" | Nov 10 23:03 |
| vZS1 | They have almost $1 mil | Nov 10 23:04 |
| vZS1 | They can afford their own servers | Nov 10 23:04 |
| vZS1 | They = Debian | Nov 10 23:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: also this (you are "RIAAn" apparently... Ryan) | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > Eventually I think you will discover that my enemy is not RIAAn, it is | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > his bullshit and propaganda. This is an historic moment, and I don't | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > intend to be silent about it anymore than the traitors are. | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > I don't care about fighting RIAAn, I don't care about RIAAn "winning" | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > because he won't win anything that he didn't have already. He isn't the | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > fight itself. | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > But I will pin his *propaganda and his bullshit rhetoric* to the ground, | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > and leave that full of bigger holes than it started with. RIAAn can do | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > whatever the hell pleases him, but I eat fake left corporate propaganda | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > for breakfast. As for RIAAn, he's a dick, but you can only say that so | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > many times. To wit, I'm already bored with Torvalds. Torvalds is a | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > bigger traitor to OUR cause than RIAAn ever will be. But I'll still | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > attack his bullshit. You won't be able to tell just yet, but when you | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > hear less and less about it then you'll know I've grown bored with it. I | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > don't just sit here and talk to myself, after all. If I'm talking, it's | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > to somebody. I know you don't have much to say directly, and I know | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > where it goes. Also the latest articles leave me with very little to | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > write about it, and that's great for me. I'm very happy to let other | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | > people speak for me, when what I would say myself isn't any different. | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: but where to host? what dc? | Nov 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | what country? | Nov 10 23:05 |
| vZS1 | In assuming that's sarcasm | Nov 10 23:07 |
| vZS1 | I'm* | Nov 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | most devs are European, IIRC | Nov 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: this: | Nov 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | > ROFL. | Nov 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > Literally the only thing short of revolution that could bring | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > non-corporate, for-the-people democracy back ever again, and he would | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > vote against it. It's not RIAAn, it's RIAAn, Inc. He's not a person, | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > he's a corporate person. What the fuck does he think he's doing here? If | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > I was Google, I would consider this guy the perfect weapon. Move over, | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > MJG. Here is your only begotten son! | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > DaemonFC[m] | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > The Illinois Constitution requires that voters be asked at least once | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > every 20 years if they want a constitutional convention. | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > Nov 09 03:19 | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-091120.html#tNov | Nov 10 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, November 09, 2020 | Nov 10 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | > 09 03:19:35> | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > DaemonFC[m] | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > I think the next time is 2030 or something. | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > Nov 09 03:19 | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-091120.html#tNov | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > 09 03:19:47> | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > DaemonFC[m] | Nov 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > I'll vote no. | Nov 10 23:08 |
| vZS1 | The fundamental issue though is small projects. Those are and always will be the most numerous. And pretty much all of them can be run on low-spec hardware. | Nov 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: should I invert the order of http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt/ ? | Nov 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | what is better, latest last or first? | Nov 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | not sure if you use some software to parse these | Nov 10 23:12 |
| vZS1 | I just hack shell pipelines | Nov 10 23:13 |
| vZS1 | Because it's fast and simple | Nov 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 10 23:13 |
| vZS1 | My friend does the same | Nov 10 23:13 |
| vZS1 | That's the benefit of the simple layout | Nov 10 23:14 |
| vZS1 | `cut -d ' ' -f 1 < txt` spits out all the CIDs | Nov 10 23:14 |
| vZS1 | And I track the index in Git | Nov 10 23:15 |
| vZS1 | So I just add the new CIDs now | Nov 10 23:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe we should add pipelines at the back end | Nov 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | to present output in other forms | Nov 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | I have some php stuff at hand | Nov 10 23:16 |
| vZS1 | Up to you. I'm happy with the dumb version | Nov 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | no need then I guess | Nov 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | would complicate maintenance | Nov 10 23:16 |
| vZS1 | And consumption | Nov 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | with spiders out there | Nov 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | seems a significant proportion of our 100mb of daily apache logs are spiders | Nov 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | but I'm not sure what % | Nov 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | I rarely check any stats, focusing on material to publish is a lot more important | Nov 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | I'll generate the daily files in an hour | Nov 10 23:18 |
| vZS1 | At least us peers are alleviating some of that | Nov 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | well, if they pick up momentum | Nov 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | I saw the number 22,000 regarding # of ipfs nodes | Nov 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | is that correct? | Nov 10 23:18 |
| vZS1 | No idea | Nov 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | how many people worldwide use it | Nov 10 23:18 |
| vZS1 | Haven't got a clue | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | and how do people discover things of interest? | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes asked me that this week | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | and I don't know how to answer | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | say I want to stay only on ipfs and use the stuff of interest to me on it | Nov 10 23:19 |
| vZS1 | Usually they just look for CID indexes on sites they like to follow | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | like searching with an engine for ipfs objects | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | are there CID "aggregators"? | Nov 10 23:19 |
| schestowitz | like text files with "today's python news"? | Nov 10 23:20 |
| schestowitz | and, if so, where? | Nov 10 23:20 |
| vZS1 | Private only probably | Nov 10 23:20 |
| schestowitz | where does one find indices? | Nov 10 23:20 |
| schestowitz | or get added to any? | Nov 10 23:20 |
| vZS1 | I know one big private one but I can't really disclose involvement in that project | Nov 10 23:20 |
| schestowitz | a sea of objects with nothing tying them together would be less attractive to new adopters | Nov 10 23:20 |
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| vZS1 | Well. It isn't exactly a private index. But the development is private. | Nov 10 23:21 |
| vZS1 | You have to think of it like early days of BitTorrent | Nov 10 23:21 |
| vZS1 | It will take time before big indexers get off the ground | Nov 10 23:22 |
| vZS1 | For example PirateBay. It's just a glorified index of magnet links | Nov 10 23:22 |
| vZS1 | The whole concept of IPFS is different. People should really create their own indices and share it with people they are connected to | Nov 10 23:23 |
| vZS1 | Like TR had its own index | Nov 10 23:23 |
| schestowitz | "In dozens of ways, Democrats are to progress what Open Source is to Free Software-- they only care if they win, they don't care how many principles they have to sacrifice to do it. Ultimately to keep out what's worse, they will all but become it-- co-opting the real thing, nullifying and silencing the will of the people, on the behalf of global war and corporate rule." http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/New_buffer_2:2 | Nov 10 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New buffer 2:2 - Techrights | Nov 10 23:23 | |
| vZS1 | I grab a copy | Nov 10 23:23 |
| vZS1 | I gave my friend a copy | Nov 10 23:23 |
| vZS1 | My friend gives other people copies of the index | Nov 10 23:23 |
| vZS1 | Index aggregators are nice and all. But this is true community | Nov 10 23:24 |
| schestowitz | ""Open Source" is a meaningless marketing phrase, but it did have a definition based on the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Today it is used as a bait-and-switch way to promote non-free software, so here is a list of examples." http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Proprietary_Open_Source | Nov 10 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proprietary Open Source - Techrights | Nov 10 23:24 | |
| vZS1 | We're bigger than open source and free software | Nov 10 23:24 |
| vZS1 | This is data and knowledge sharing | Nov 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | wow, tuxmachines just hit a new record | Nov 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | 11 hits/sec for the month's average | Nov 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | we got close before, but never over 11 average | Nov 10 23:25 |
| vZS1 | Congratulations ๐๐๐๐ | Nov 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | ty | Nov 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | good to have something p2p | Nov 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | in case the server is outrun one day | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | and we cannot afford more hardware | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | for videos we can use p2p | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I assume | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | but... not sure if it's set up like this | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | ipfs.io/something | Nov 10 23:27 |
| vZS1 | I don't think you have to worry about running out of hardware. Your data sizes are tiny | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | as the object of the video | Nov 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | not sure if that would stream well | Nov 10 23:27 |
| vZS1 | I don't know of streaming | Nov 10 23:28 |
| schestowitz | the hardware is under strain due to the cms | Nov 10 23:28 |
| vZS1 | But people would just grab the whole give e | Nov 10 23:28 |
| vZS1 | file | Nov 10 23:28 |
| vZS1 | With video, I highly suggest just compress the damn thing | Nov 10 23:28 |
| vZS1 | P2P video streaming is a whole other can of worms | Nov 10 23:29 |
| vZS1 | Because you have to worry about clients a whole lot more | Nov 10 23:31 |
| vZS1 | The key to P2P streaming is fast compression algorithms | Nov 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | not live streaming | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | just serving multimedia files | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | can be buffering forward | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | just a large file | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | last month we did 200gb per say some days | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | due to gates deposition videos | Nov 10 23:34 |
| vZS1 | Hmm | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | some are over 200mb in size | Nov 10 23:35 |
| vZS1 | I think that's just a matter of getting a video client to rate/limit IPFS object block consumption properly | Nov 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | for about one hour | Nov 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | so about 3mb/min | Nov 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bill_Gates_Deposition | Nov 10 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Deposition - Techrights | Nov 10 23:36 | |
| schestowitz | that was just before groklaw (seemingly) died | Nov 10 23:36 |
| vZS1 | In my head I'm thinking a mix of 3 things. zstd, ipfs, and vlc player | Nov 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | those are ogg files | Nov 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | the browsers support them ok | Nov 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | (with few exceptions) | Nov 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | the question is, are we 'fit' to do more video hosting over ipfs | Nov 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | is that something ipfs has been tested for? | Nov 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | think lbry/peertube | Nov 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | can they be obviated by p2p ipfs? | Nov 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | or is that not its turf? | Nov 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | we're limited on disk space in the server | Nov 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | and we don't need RAID and stuff for things like videos/media anyway | Nov 10 23:40 |
| vZS1 | I'm sure you can build perfectly functional P2P video streaming on IPFS | Nov 10 23:41 |
| vZS1 | What I was thinking is a purpose-built client for the job | Nov 10 23:43 |
| vZS1 | Not a web browser | Nov 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | this has just reminded me to remotely back up tm and rt DBs | Nov 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | *tr | Nov 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | initiated moments ago, last remote backup is about a month old | Nov 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | there are video players for command line | Nov 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | with or without colour | Nov 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | we can do the same with images | Nov 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | the other day I thought about experimenting with conversion of all images to ascii or unicode | Nov 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | let me test the quality we can get | Nov 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | for a plain text utf8 file | Nov 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | I can convert these to Base64 | Nov 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | but that's only useful for self-contained html | Nov 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | where the images are included in the html file | Nov 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | and that's not what we want | Nov 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | afaik | Nov 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | https://base64.guru/converter/encode/image | Nov 10 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-base64.guru | Image to Base64 | Base64 Encode | Base64 Converter | Base64 | Nov 10 23:46 | |
| vZS1 | I think it's best to just create different IPFS objects and include the CID for those in the article | Nov 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | there's also https://onlineutf8tools.com/convert-utf8-to-image | Nov 10 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-onlineutf8tools.com | Convert UTF8 to an Image - Online UTF8 Tools | Nov 10 23:46 | |
| schestowitz | but that's the other way around | Nov 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: for each image? | Nov 10 23:47 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 10 23:47 |
| vZS1 | The whole point of IPFS is content-based addressing, anyway | Nov 10 23:47 |
| vZS1 | People just need to get used to it | Nov 10 23:48 |
| vZS1 | I'm sure more sophisticated clients will develop over time | Nov 10 23:48 |
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| vZS1 | I'm content with compressing all the raw files and then just adding to IPFS | Nov 10 23:49 |
| vZS1 | So if you have a big video use xz with the heavy levels of compression | Nov 10 23:49 |
| vZS1 | Talking -9 flag here | Nov 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | the conversion quality is terrible for 80 chats across | Nov 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I just tested something | Nov 10 23:50 |
| vZS1 | xz is lossless btw | Nov 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe ok for landscapes | Nov 10 23:50 |
| vZS1 | Try it out | Nov 10 23:51 |
| vZS1 | Use xz on an image with the -9 flag | Nov 10 23:51 |
| schestowitz | the converter here is truly awful https://manytools.org/hacker-tools/convert-images-to-ascii-art/go/ | Nov 10 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manytools.org | ASCII art generator for geeks! - Convert images/pictures to ASCII art online! (HTML/text) | Nov 10 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | let's try unicode | Nov 10 23:51 |
| schestowitz | โโโโโโโโโโ โโ โ โ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ | Nov 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | โโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โ โโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ | Nov 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | they use just blocks | Nov 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | really awful algorithms | Nov 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | they don't make any use of special chars | Nov 10 23:53 |
| vZS1 | Is that a gun? | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | no, the heads of dodd and biden | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | just the first pixels line | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | the rest is equally crap | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | it's just binary | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | no use of unicode really | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I know of command line tools that do better | Nov 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | does anyone remember their name? | Nov 10 23:55 |
| vZS1 | It's almost midnight. Gonna hit the hay. Gn all. | Nov 10 23:55 |
| schestowitz | https://ostechnix.com/how-to-display-images-in-the-terminal/ | Nov 10 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 CLI Image Viewers To Display Images In The Terminal - OSTechNix | Nov 10 23:56 | |
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