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| matey | hes not dead he just needs lube | Apr 13 00:00 |
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| matey | sorry wrong window | Apr 13 00:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 13 00:00 |
| techrights-news | "CVE-2021-26726 has been assigned to this vulnerability. A CVSS v3 base score of 8.8 has been calculated" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-102-01 | Apr 13 00:00 |
| bnchs__ | matey: sure wrong window | Apr 13 00:00 |
| bnchs__ | you know what | Apr 13 00:01 |
| bnchs__ | just apply the lube yourself | Apr 13 00:01 |
| techrights-news | CVSS v3 9.0 (!!!)... Wind River VxWorks... and they keep saying this proprietary platform is soooo good for security https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-102-02 | Apr 13 00:01 |
| matey | no | Apr 13 00:01 |
| matey | thats what the bot is for | Apr 13 00:01 |
| matey | this is supposed to be the 21st century, wtf | Apr 13 00:01 |
| techrights-news | "Exploitable remotely" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-102-04 | Apr 13 00:02 |
| bnchs__ | matey: have you imagined the bot applying lube | Apr 13 00:03 |
| bnchs__ | to itself | Apr 13 00:03 |
| bnchs__ | eughhhh | Apr 13 00:03 |
| techrights-news | ASSRocks! Uses chips with NSA back doors. https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-industrial-release-new-range-of-industrial-motherboards-w-12th-gen-intel-core-processors/ | Apr 13 00:03 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-industrial-release-new-range-of-industrial-motherboards-w-12th-gen-intel-core-processors/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-industrial-release-new-range-of-industrial-motherboards-w-12th-gen-intel-core-processors/ | Apr 13 00:03 | |
| matey | ive been thinking actually | Apr 13 00:04 |
| matey | about the techrights business model | Apr 13 00:04 |
| matey | its not making any profits right now | Apr 13 00:04 |
| matey | and we dont want microsoft to come take it over | Apr 13 00:05 |
| bnchs__ | you read my mind | Apr 13 00:05 |
| matey | so heres my idea to make it sustainable | Apr 13 00:05 |
| bnchs__ | i was thinking about roy's job | Apr 13 00:05 |
| matey | okay, so they have remote control adult toys already | Apr 13 00:05 |
| matey | im not going into details, everybody knows about them | Apr 13 00:05 |
| bnchs__ | yeah???? | Apr 13 00:05 |
| matey | and they have teleconferencing robots too | Apr 13 00:05 |
| bnchs__ | turn it into a server? | Apr 13 00:05 |
| techrights-news | AMD GPU "open"... blank (no text) until/unless you run proprietary JS on your machine https://gpuopen.com/learn/introducing-hiprt/ | Apr 13 00:05 |
| matey | and somehow, no ones put them together yet | Apr 13 00:05 |
| bnchs__ | oh no | Apr 13 00:05 |
| matey | this is how we all get rich | Apr 13 00:06 |
| bnchs__ | "wanking to bunnies" - roy | Apr 13 00:06 |
| bnchs__ | i took that out of context | Apr 13 00:06 |
| matey | god bless us everyone | Apr 13 00:07 |
| techrights-news | CVSS v3 9.8 (nearly 10!) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-102-05 "a server used to control and communicate with autonomous mobile robots in hospitals" | Apr 13 00:07 |
| bnchs__ | describing furry pr0n as "wanking to bunnies" | Apr 13 00:07 |
| matey | i think ill get that tatted on my arm in old english lettering | Apr 13 00:07 |
| techrights-news | Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wqn3gR1WTcA δ· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 13 00:07 |
| matey | "why does it it say 'wanking to bunnies?'" | Apr 13 00:08 |
| matey | "i dunno man, thats what it said when i woke up" | Apr 13 00:08 |
| matey | "what does it mean?" | Apr 13 00:08 |
| matey | "i dont know that either, but i always thought hugh hefner was kind of the shit" | Apr 13 00:09 |
| techrights-news | "Worldline announced it has launched one of the most advanced LINUX-based 4G POS terminal β LINURA LP 7220 with highest security protocol, Dual Core Cortex processor and 256MB RAM to enhance in-store digital payments experience in India." https://www.freepressjournal.in/technology/worldline-launches-linura-lp-7220-pos-terminal-in-india | Apr 13 00:09 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: freepressjournal.in | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/technology/worldline-launches-linura-lp-7220-pos-terminal-in-india https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.freepressjournal.in/technology/worldline-launches-linura-lp-7220-pos-terminal-in-india | Apr 13 00:09 | |
| techrights-news | "pgBadger is a PostgreSQL performance analyzer, built for speed with fully detailed reports based on your PostgreSQL log files." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgbadger-v118-released-2434/ | Apr 13 00:10 |
| bnchs__ | <schestowitz-TR> does deviantart have art yet? | Apr 13 00:11 |
| matey | describing furry <- im pretty sure he was amish at one point | Apr 13 00:11 |
| bnchs__ | <techrights_guest|40>schestowitz-TR no just porn and furry porn... hahahahaha | Apr 13 00:11 |
| matey | possibly through his teens | Apr 13 00:11 |
| bnchs__ | <schestowitz-TR> haha | Apr 13 00:11 |
| bnchs__ | <schestowitz-TR> yeah | Apr 13 00:11 |
| bnchs__ | <schestowitz-TR>site for deviants on drugs | Apr 13 00:11 |
| techrights-news | Amidst Disagreement, elementary co-Founder Quits and Joins Endless OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162346#comment-33329 | Apr 13 00:11 |
| bnchs__ | <schestowitz-TR>more catchy than "Wanking to bunnies" | Apr 13 00:11 |
| *bnchs_ (~bnchs_@gx4exr34u37ig.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 00:12 | |
| bnchs__ | bnchs_, who are you | Apr 13 00:12 |
| matey | /me never wanks to actual bunnies, but sometimes the easter candy aisle is a bit exciting | Apr 13 00:13 |
| *bnchs_ has quit (Quit: Quit) | Apr 13 00:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ?? [00:12] <bnchs__> bnchs_, who are you | Apr 13 00:13 |
| matey | he left | Apr 13 00:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 13 00:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | unstable connection | Apr 13 00:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | around misnight in particular | Apr 13 00:13 |
| bnchs__ | no i'm still here | Apr 13 00:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to FB "live" and stuff | Apr 13 00:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | people eating up all the b/w | Apr 13 00:14 |
| bnchs__ | another client on my LAN | Apr 13 00:14 |
| techrights-news | NSA back doors https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/12/asrock-4x4-box-5000-series-mini-pc-features-amd-zen-3-ryzen-5000-u-series-processor/ | Apr 13 00:14 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/12/asrock-4x4-box-5000-series-mini-pc-features-amd-zen-3-ryzen-5000-u-series-processor/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/12/asrock-4x4-box-5000-series-mini-pc-features-amd-zen-3-ryzen-5000-u-series-processor/ | Apr 13 00:14 | |
| techrights-news | Emulating Raspi2 like hardware with Rasbian in 2022 http://sven.stormbind.net/blog/posts/deb_qemu_rpi2_2022/ | Apr 13 00:15 |
| *bnchs__ is now known as bnchs | Apr 13 00:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | some people mentioned my job (not sure who started it) | Apr 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I start a shift in 45 mins | Apr 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | techrights is a hobby, not a business | Apr 13 00:15 |
| matey | we were joking of course | Apr 13 00:15 |
| matey | we know its not intended to make money | Apr 13 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and quite a few people's thing, many are involved by now | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | thats half the joke | Apr 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: I just need food and bed | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | /me doesnt even need a bed | Apr 13 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we buy food less than half price | Apr 13 00:16 |
| bnchs | matey: putting a adult toy and a robot together, right? | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | bnchs: its going to be huge | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | but not just a robot | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | TELECONFERENCING | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | thats the key | Apr 13 00:16 |
| matey | skype will wish they thought of it first | Apr 13 00:17 |
| techrights-news | Hardly about Linux at all https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-google-cloud-launch-183000677.html | Apr 13 00:17 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: yahoo.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-google-cloud-launch-183000677.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-google-cloud-launch-183000677.html | Apr 13 00:17 | |
| techrights-news | Software patents legitimised in the name of "Linux" https://wraltechwire.com/2022/04/12/in-the-limelight-truist-joins-open-invention-nework/ | Apr 13 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I bought a Bluetooth to FM thing for my car with some fast charging ports. | Apr 13 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | $14 vs tearing out the factory deck to replace it with something modern. | Apr 13 00:18 |
| matey | ill never sync with your youtube videos, but you should probably watch the road anyway | Apr 13 00:19 |
| techrights-news | Announcing the First Oracle Solaris 11.4 CBE β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163642 | Apr 13 00:19 |
| matey | itll | Apr 13 00:19 |
| matey | i wont either though | Apr 13 00:19 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO: Industroyer2: Industroyer reloaded | WeLiveSecurity β https://www.welivesecurity.com/2022/04/12/industroyer2-industroyer-reloaded/ "Windows executable named 108_100.exe" | Apr 13 00:21 |
| matey | when minimalists have a pissing contest | Apr 13 00:22 |
| matey | one guy uses a low-flush | Apr 13 00:22 |
| techrights-news | "...the grey window decorations are a JWM theme in this snapshot. But, EasyOS 3.3 also has a light-blue JWM theme. In the above snapshot, everything inside the window is the GTK theme. I modified the 'flat-grey-rounded' theme and created a new GTK3 'EasyBlue' theme." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/easyblue-theme-for-gtk2-and-gtk3.html | Apr 13 00:22 |
| matey | this other showoff just needs a bucket | Apr 13 00:22 |
| bnchs | matey: low-flush | Apr 13 00:22 |
| bnchs | imagine flushing 6 times | Apr 13 00:22 |
| matey | and the winner goes outside against a wall | Apr 13 00:22 |
| matey | bnchs: i know | Apr 13 00:22 |
| bnchs | for a piece of SHIT | Apr 13 00:22 |
| matey | i swear they use more water than regular toilets | Apr 13 00:22 |
| matey | i think they were invented by someone who has never pooped in their life | Apr 13 00:23 |
| matey | so nixon probably | Apr 13 00:23 |
| matey | he always seemed like he never had | Apr 13 00:23 |
| matey | he just held it in | Apr 13 00:23 |
| techrights-news | Security a Key Benefit of Open Source Enterprise Software https://www.fosslife.org/security-key-benefit-open-source-enterprise-software so try using it, Red Hat http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/ | Apr 13 00:24 |
| matey | /me wonders how many flushes 2000 flushes is good for if you put it in a low flow toilet | Apr 13 00:25 |
| techrights-news | Not quite what it sounds like... https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/ | Apr 13 00:26 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: arduino.cc | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/ | Apr 13 00:26 | |
| bnchs | reminds me of a king of the hill episode | Apr 13 00:27 |
| matey | fair play | Apr 13 00:27 |
| bnchs | there was a bill that banned regular toilets | Apr 13 00:27 |
| matey | ha | Apr 13 00:27 |
| matey | i saw that one | Apr 13 00:27 |
| bnchs | and replaced them with low-flush toilet | Apr 13 00:27 |
| *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 00:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Apr 13 00:27 |
| matey | and there was someone selling regular toilets off a truck | Apr 13 00:28 |
| techrights-news | EasyOS Appearance Tweaks β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163643 | Apr 13 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Appearance Tweaks | Tux Machines | Apr 13 00:28 | |
| matey | how would you enforce it though? | Apr 13 00:28 |
| matey | toilet inspectors? in the uk they just have have truck drive around and they have a big antenna that can figure it out | Apr 13 00:29 |
| bnchs | hashaway attempted to blackmail hank with pictures of his son "stealing" water from a neighbor | Apr 13 00:29 |
| techrights-news | Guess what it runs... https://www.kulr8.com/news/money/lambda-teams-up-with-razer-to-launch-the-world-s-most-powerful-laptop-for-deep/article_ea5e6b2d-eaff-511e-8b45-89965e7e6a16.html | Apr 13 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lambda Teams Up With Razer to Launch the Worldβs Most Powerful Laptop for Deep Learning | Your Money | kulr8.com | Apr 13 00:29 | |
| bnchs | and then bribed him with regular toilets | Apr 13 00:29 |
| bnchs | he refused them at least | Apr 13 00:29 |
| bnchs | hashaway was holding a monopoly on low-flush toilets | Apr 13 00:30 |
| bnchs | which reminds me of microsoft | Apr 13 00:30 |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 00:31 | |
| matey | https://techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/microsoft-etoilet-fun-neee/ | Apr 13 00:32 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: techcrunch.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/microsoft-etoilet-fun-neee/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://techcrunch.com/2007/01/16/microsoft-etoilet-fun-neee/ | Apr 13 00:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft eToilet: Fun-neee! β TechCrunch | Apr 13 00:32 | |
| techrights-news | Outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software = opposite of real security https://www.suse.com/c/safety-ram-protecting-variables-with-ones-complement/ | Apr 13 00:32 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: suse.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/safety-ram-protecting-variables-with-ones-complement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/safety-ram-protecting-variables-with-ones-complement/ | Apr 13 00:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Safety RAM: Protecting variables with one's complement | SUSE Communities | Apr 13 00:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: lol | Apr 13 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: bill goat has a fetish with toilets | Apr 13 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | look up "bill says" "toilets" | Apr 13 00:35 |
| matey | probably picked it up at a ranch somewhere | Apr 13 00:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's full of it | Apr 13 00:35 |
| bnchs | if this gets me weird results | Apr 13 00:36 |
| matey | people like bill gates help create "third world" conditions | Apr 13 00:36 |
| bnchs | "Poop is a subject that never goes out of style with comedians" | Apr 13 00:36 |
| bnchs | good beginning of bill article | Apr 13 00:36 |
| bnchs | POOP | Apr 13 00:36 |
| matey | then they want to "give back" by "fixing" them with stupid, elon-musk like ideas | Apr 13 00:36 |
| bnchs | bill doors | Apr 13 00:37 |
| bnchs | bill windows | Apr 13 00:37 |
| matey | and by give back i mean exploit those places even further | Apr 13 00:37 |
| bnchs | bill gates | Apr 13 00:37 |
| bnchs | bill doors and bill windows | Apr 13 00:37 |
| matey | i think its great that there are still some e-toilets without built in cameras | Apr 13 00:38 |
| bnchs | matey: "e-toilets without built in cameras" | Apr 13 00:38 |
| bnchs | bruh what time did i time travel to | Apr 13 00:38 |
| matey | im thinking of getting one instead of a laptop or television | Apr 13 00:38 |
| matey | im not even going to connect it to the plumbing, ill just put it where the smart tv was | Apr 13 00:40 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163644 | Apr 13 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 00:40 | |
| matey | "why is there an electronic toilet" | Apr 13 00:40 |
| matey | "i couldnt find a computer or screen without a camera" | Apr 13 00:40 |
| matey | "oh" | Apr 13 00:40 |
| techrights-news | Security of proprietary crap: "An attacker could exploit one of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/12/citrix-releases-security-updates-sd-wan-products | Apr 13 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Citrix Releases Security Updates for SD-WAN Products | CISA | Apr 13 00:41 | |
| matey | "what os does it run" | Apr 13 00:41 |
| matey | "ibm" | Apr 13 00:41 |
| matey | "hahaha" | Apr 13 00:41 |
| techrights-news | "The SSH (Secure SHell) protocol is a remote shell protocol that creates a secure channel (by using an encrypted connection), for accessing servers on an insecure network (like the Internet itself)." https://bytexd.com/how-to-connect-to-ssh-without-typing-a-password/ | Apr 13 00:41 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: bytexd.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bytexd.com/how-to-connect-to-ssh-without-typing-a-password/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://bytexd.com/how-to-connect-to-ssh-without-typing-a-password/ | Apr 13 00:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Connect to SSH Without Typing a Password - ByteXD | Apr 13 00:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: runs bilos | Apr 13 00:42 |
| techrights-news | Halo: The Master Chief Collection broke on Linux and Steam Deck, here's a quick fix | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/halo-the-master-chief-collection-broke-on-linux-and-steam-deck-heres-a-quick-fix/ δ· Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 13 00:43 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/halo-the-master-chief-collection-broke-on-linux-and-steam-deck-heres-a-quick-fix/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/halo-the-master-chief-collection-broke-on-linux-and-steam-deck-heres-a-quick-fix/ | Apr 13 00:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Halo: The Master Chief Collection broke on Linux and Steam Deck, here's a quick fix | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 00:43 | |
| bnchs | i wonder | Apr 13 00:43 |
| bnchs | what happens if you cum into the toilet | Apr 13 00:43 |
| bnchs | is it called having sex with a electronic? | Apr 13 00:43 |
| techrights-news | Strategy game 'Old World' comes to Steam and GOG on May 19 with Linux support | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/strategy-game-old-world-comes-to-steam-and-gog-on-may-19-with-linux-support/ δ· Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 13 00:43 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/strategy-game-old-world-comes-to-steam-and-gog-on-may-19-with-linux-support/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/strategy-game-old-world-comes-to-steam-and-gog-on-may-19-with-linux-support/ | Apr 13 00:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Strategy game 'Old World' comes to Steam and GOG on May 19 with Linux support | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 00:43 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/feVDZZP | Apr 13 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pet day tax season dump - Album on Imgur | Apr 13 00:44 | |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: imgur.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/feVDZZP https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://imgur.com/t/cats/feVDZZP | Apr 13 00:44 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora 36 Beta: The new Adwaita/GTK4 work breaks the world, causes confusion, but the performance is terrific. - BaronHKβs Rants β https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/12/fedora-36-beta-the-new-adwaita-gtk4-work-breaks-the-world-causes-confusion-but-the-performance-is-terrific/ δ· Source: baronhk | Apr 13 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Fedora 36 Beta: The new Adwaita/GTK4 work breaks the world, causes confusion, but the performance is terrific. β BaronHK's Rants | Apr 13 00:46 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=avb1XbO0EIs | Apr 13 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Love Toilet - SNL - Invidious | Apr 13 00:47 | |
| techrights-news | Firefox 99.0.1 maintenance update released - gHacks Tech News β https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/12/firefox-99-0-1-maintenance-update-released/ δ· Source: ghacks | Apr 13 00:49 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: ghacks.net | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/12/firefox-99-0-1-maintenance-update-released/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/12/firefox-99-0-1-maintenance-update-released/ | Apr 13 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Firefox 99.0.1 maintenance update released - gHacks Tech News | Apr 13 00:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Back when I first started using Arch Linux I was usng i3 and now I'm finally trying out Sway which is intended to be a drop in replacement for i3 or i3 gaps over on the Wayland side." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09mQAZAzwJg | Apr 13 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=09mQAZAzwJg | Apr 13 00:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.osi.kr | First Look At Sway WM: Welcome Home "i3" - Invidious | Apr 13 00:51 | |
| techrights-news | Comments like "Chrome is actually open source" and "Google actually owns Odysee." What?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgAAobbb1pY | Apr 13 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=JgAAobbb1pY | Apr 13 00:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | Fact Checking Common Myths About Open Source Software - Invidious | Apr 13 00:52 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora 36 Beta: The new Adwaita/GTK4 work breaks the world, causes confusion, but the performance is terrific. β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163645 | Apr 13 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 36 Beta: The new Adwaita/GTK4 work breaks the world, causes confusion, but the performance is terrific. | Tux Machines | Apr 13 00:53 | |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at EndeavourOS 22.1." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRwzWSEvyg0 | Apr 13 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=pRwzWSEvyg0 | Apr 13 00:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tube.cthd.icu | EndeavourOS 22.1 Run Through - Invidious | Apr 13 00:54 | |
| bnchs | jannies | Apr 13 00:55 |
| bnchs | fix the bot!! | Apr 13 00:55 |
| bnchs | wrong window | Apr 13 00:55 |
| techrights-news | Mozilla Firefox Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163646 | Apr 13 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 00:55 | |
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| techrights-news | Intel outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software as usual https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ControlFlag-1.1-PHP Intel got innfiltrated, scuttled in-house GitLAB http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Apr 13 00:57 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: phoronix.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ControlFlag-1.1-PHP https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ControlFlag-1.1-PHP | Apr 13 00:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Updates ControlFlag AI-Driven Project To Spot Possible Bugs In PHP Code - Phoronix | Apr 13 00:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Apr 13 00:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββ βββββββ ββ β ββββββ ββββββββββββββ β β avg(k/sec) 23.56 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 81.13β swarm size (avg): 362.50 β² | Apr 13 00:59 |
| techrights-news | Customizing KDE Plasma:#HowTo Edit Panels And Layout - TuxDigital β https://tuxdigital.com/videos/customizing-kde-plasma-how-to-edit-panels-and-layout/ δ· Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux | Apr 13 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Customizing KDE Plasma: How To Edit Panels And Layout - TuxDigital | Apr 13 01:00 | |
| techrights-news | I Spent 90 Days In openSUSE Tumbleweed, This Is What Happened! - TuxDigital β https://tuxdigital.com/videos/i-spent-90-days-in-opensuse-tumbleweed-this-is-what-happened/ δ· Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux | Apr 13 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Spent 90 Days In openSUSE Tumbleweed, This Is What Happened! - TuxDigital | Apr 13 01:01 | |
| techrights-news | "Custom Gtk Cell Renderer in GTK4 GtkComboBox in LibreOffice now working as hoped for" http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2022/04/gtk4-combobox-cell-renderers.html | Apr 13 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-caolanm.blogspot.com | CaolΓ‘n McNamara: GTK4: ComboBox Cell Renderers | Apr 13 01:02 | |
| techrights-news | How to Run Multiple Linux Distributions Inside the Terminal Using Distrobox β https://www.makeuseof.com/run-multiple-linux-distros-inside-terminal-distrobox/ δ· Source: makeuseof | Apr 13 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Run Multiple Linux Distributions Inside the Terminal Using Distrobox | Apr 13 01:03 | |
| matey | /me boils tea leaves | Apr 13 01:04 |
| MinceR | you forgot the water | Apr 13 01:05 |
| *schestowitz-TR leaves | Apr 13 01:06 | |
| MinceR | eats, shoots and leaves | Apr 13 01:06 |
| techrights-news | WordPress 6.0 Beta 1 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163647 | Apr 13 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 6.0 Beta 1 | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:06 | |
| XRevan86 | Maybe Biden reads what I write here, because he also just called Putin a dictator (: | Apr 13 01:08 |
| techrights-news | Todayβs Linux Foundation Fluff β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163648 | Apr 13 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today's Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:08 | |
| XRevan86 | Very wise, very wise. | Apr 13 01:08 |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163649 | Apr 13 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: unlike Mo bin Salman | Apr 13 01:08 |
| matey | MinceR: thats what im boiling them in | Apr 13 01:09 |
| MinceR | good | Apr 13 01:09 |
| matey | at least for the moment | Apr 13 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What's he saying? | Apr 13 01:09 |
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| matey | /me adds milk and boils that too | Apr 13 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | I use this http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Winter-in-Manchester/20190217_110636 | Apr 13 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20190217 110636 | Apr 13 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | we got it 80% off original price at shutdown sale (Clas Olson) | Apr 13 01:11 |
| salty | you add milk to tea matey? | Apr 13 01:11 |
| matey | /me uses a $2 pan that he got for free, but would have gladly paid $30 for it | Apr 13 01:11 |
| salty | how about some honey | Apr 13 01:12 |
| matey | you have to add milk to tea | Apr 13 01:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and salt | Apr 13 01:12 |
| salty | seawater | Apr 13 01:12 |
| salty | *that's | Apr 13 01:12 |
| MinceR | no, i don't have to | Apr 13 01:13 |
| AltLink_edbc | Tomorrow, Richard Stallman will be speaking about the #freesoftware movement and your freedom. His speech will be nontechnical and admission is gratis. Online at 14:00 EDT (18:00 UTC) https://u.fsf.org/3i- | Apr 13 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement β Free Software Foundation β Working together for free software | Apr 13 01:13 | |
| matey | unless youre lactose intolerant | Apr 13 01:14 |
| matey | or vegan | Apr 13 01:14 |
| matey | or just hate milk | Apr 13 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | soy | Apr 13 01:14 |
| salty | 'milk is for the weak' | Apr 13 01:14 |
| matey | /me removes the leaves and adds a little more milk to make it less boiling | Apr 13 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | salty: like salves | Apr 13 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | calves | Apr 13 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and babies | Apr 13 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | You | Apr 13 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | 257 kWh | Apr 13 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Efficient neighbors | Apr 13 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | 480 kWh | Apr 13 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | All neighbors | Apr 13 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | 879 kWh | Apr 13 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: haha | Apr 13 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... how many tenants? | Apr 13 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | needs to be per tenant | Apr 13 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | They count similar apartments in the area. | Apr 13 01:15 |
| MinceR | https://everything2.com/title/SOY%2521+SOY%2521+SOY%2521+Soy+makes+you+strong%2521+Strength+crushes+enemies%2521+SOY%2521 https://web.archive.org/web/20101011120702/http://everything2.com:80/title/SOY!%20SOY!%20SOY!%20Soy%20makes%20you%20strong!%20Strength%20crushes%20enemies!%20SOY! | Apr 13 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 502 @ https://everything2.com/title/SOY%2521+SOY%2521+SOY%2521+Soy+makes+you+strong%2521+Strength+crushes+enemies%2521+SOY%2521 ) | Apr 13 01:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20101011120702/http://everything2.com:80/title/SOY!%20SOY!%20SOY!%20Soy%20makes%20you%20strong!%20Strength%20crushes%20enemies!%20SOY ) | Apr 13 01:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | and kids typically need heating on | Apr 13 01:15 |
| matey | no soy marinero | Apr 13 01:16 |
| matey | soy capitan soy capitan | Apr 13 01:16 |
| techrights-news | "I got a bunch of replies with tools I hadnβt heard of, so I thought Iβd make a list here. A lot of people also pointed at the modern-unix list." https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/12/a-list-of-new-ish--command-line-tools/ | Apr 13 01:16 |
| -altlink_c68/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: jvns.ca | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/12/a-list-of-new-ish--command-line-tools/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/12/a-list-of-new-ish--command-line-tools/ | Apr 13 01:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | A list of new(ish) command line tools | Apr 13 01:16 | |
| matey | /me wonders how much energy is used by the companies making the smart meters | Apr 13 01:17 |
| matey | not just to make the smart meters either | Apr 13 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | spy meters | Apr 13 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC ranks low in the CommunistEdison chart | Apr 13 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he falls below 200 they sent in a a SWAT team | Apr 13 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | *send | Apr 13 01:18 |
| matey | because hes obviously tampering with the meter | Apr 13 01:18 |
| matey | a capital offense | Apr 13 01:18 |
| techrights-news | "As everyone whoβs anyone knows, the next Mesa release branchpoint is coming up tomorrow." https://www.supergoodcode.com/branch/ | Apr 13 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Branch β Mike Blumenkrantz β Super. Good. Code. | Apr 13 01:19 | |
| matey | edison of course, wasnt a communist | Apr 13 01:19 |
| matey | but he was good buddies with ford, a nazi sympathiser | Apr 13 01:20 |
| MinceR | ah, so a national communist? :> | Apr 13 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it's a joke about ComEd | Apr 13 01:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC calls them that | Apr 13 01:20 |
| matey | nationalism does horrible things to socialism | Apr 13 01:20 |
| *AltLink_edbc (~AltLink_edbc@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 01:20 | |
| matey | schestowitz-TR: im pretending i dont get it | Apr 13 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | AltLink_edbc: later today our time | Apr 13 01:21 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/rms-vs-clownflare/ | Apr 13 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Why Sites With Clownflare (Cloudflare) Harm Freedom and Human Rights | Techrights | Apr 13 01:21 | |
| matey | and yet if youd said stalinistedison youd be right on the money | Apr 13 01:21 |
| matey | stalin would have fucking loved these things | Apr 13 01:22 |
| techrights-news | Purism wants you yo know it does greenwashing too https://puri.sm/posts/purism-cares-about-environmental-impact/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwashing | Apr 13 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Purism Cares about Environmental Impact β Purism | Apr 13 01:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Greenwashing - Wikipedia | Apr 13 01:22 | |
| DaemonFC | <matey> schestowitz-TR: im pretending i dont get it | Apr 13 01:23 |
| matey | "is there a setting to starve people too?" | Apr 13 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Commonwealth Edison is the official name. | Apr 13 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I call them Communist Edison because the state keeps "bailing them out" with billions of dollars of tax money. | Apr 13 01:24 |
| techrights-news | Whatβs New in Ubuntu 22.04 βJammy Jellyfishβ β https://www.howtogeek.com/796765/whats-new-in-ubuntu-2204-jammy-jellyfish/ δ· Source: howtogeek | Apr 13 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Whatβs New in Ubuntu 22.04 βJammy Jellyfishβ | Apr 13 01:24 | |
| matey | and here i thought it was a reference to con edison | Apr 13 01:24 |
| matey | but of course thats ny, not chicago | Apr 13 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: COMMON wealth | Apr 13 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The dealer told me that they normally upcharge for 0w30 but they just gave me the coupon price for it. | Apr 13 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | he shares his money with yo | Apr 13 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the Queen of England | Apr 13 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the energy is FREE! | Apr 13 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | communism | Apr 13 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | They said they carry 40 gallon drums of 5w30 synthetic, but they only have gallon jugs of 0w30. | Apr 13 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Not many people know to ask for it, I guess. | Apr 13 01:26 |
| matey | her majestys a pretty nice girl but she doesnt have a lot to say | Apr 13 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think GM moved straight from 5w30 down to 0w20 though. | Apr 13 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they instruct her not to say much | Apr 13 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | So 0w30 at a GM dealer would be an odd thing to ask for. | Apr 13 01:26 |
| matey | They said they carry 40 gallon drums of 5w30 synthetic, but they only have gallon jugs of 0w30. <- ooh, is dfc getting synthetic jugs? | Apr 13 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or to give nazi salutes | Apr 13 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> They said they carry 40 gallon drums of 5w30 synthetic, but they only have gallon jugs of 0w30. <- ooh, is dfc getting synthetic jugs? | Apr 13 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | I use synthetic oil in all my cars, even when they're a total beater. | Apr 13 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Once the metal parts give up, your car is finished, and the oil changes don't really cost more since you can get more mileage out of them. | Apr 13 01:27 |
| matey | /me checks the clock | Apr 13 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Especially if you use a good oil and air filter and they don't crap it up as fast. | Apr 13 01:27 |
| matey | time for neighbour to be a cunt for about an hour (hopefully not more) | Apr 13 01:28 |
| *schestowitz-TR knows magazines about synthetic jugs | Apr 13 01:28 | |
| DaemonFC | The oil has to suspend particles that make it past the air filter and do not get caught by the oil filter. | Apr 13 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart uses the cheapest of both, so if you use FRAM air filters and CORE TLE oil filters, you cause excessive engine wear. | Apr 13 01:28 |
| matey | fortunately wal mart can do an engine overhaul for like $50 | Apr 13 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Because the oil filter is so cheap that the filtration media will collapse and cause contaminated oil to bypass the filter and start circulating. | Apr 13 01:29 |
| techrights-news | Videos: openSUSE Tumbleweed, EndeavourOS 22.1, and More β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163650 | Apr 13 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: openSUSE Tumbleweed, EndeavourOS 22.1, and More | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:29 | |
| DaemonFC | While the FRAM air filters allow almost 500% more large particles through than the OE AC Delco filters. | Apr 13 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's a recipe for disaster even if the fuck ups who work back there don't just strip out or cross thread your oil drain bolt and cause a $800 repair. | Apr 13 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Go to the dealer. For God's sake, it's not even more expensive. They have coupons at the dealer! | Apr 13 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Especially if you're like me and you want your car to last a while. | Apr 13 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you service the powertrain on those old cars, they last forever. | Apr 13 01:31 |
| techrights-news | Firefox finally has a tab management add-on worth using β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163651 | Apr 13 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox finally has a tab management add-on worth using | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I've seen in excess of 700,000 miles on the original powertrain on Crown Victorias. | Apr 13 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | The fenders on these GM cars always end up rusting at some point, but that's a yearslong process even here if you take your car to the wash regularly. | Apr 13 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | What people do is they get a new car, and a $600-700 payment, can't afford to maintain it, don't take it to the wash, and then it's a rusty pig at like 5-6 years old. | Apr 13 01:34 |
| techrights-news | "The Gemini community is globally very nice and I've really been enjoying the different interaction I had with fellow geminauts over station, tinylogs, gemlog entries or via email (keep emails coming!)." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/ | Apr 13 01:34 |
| salty | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5656994/ | Apr 13 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Project 'Gemini' (2022) - IMDb | Apr 13 01:35 | |
| techrights-news | "The Apache Software Foundation has released a security advisory to address a vulnerability in Struts in the version range 2.0.0 to 2.5.29. An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/12/apache-releases-security-advisory-struts-2 | Apr 13 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Apache Releases Security Advisory for Struts 2 | CISA | Apr 13 01:36 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Kernel: Ksplice and Mesa β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163652 | Apr 13 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel: Ksplice and Mesa | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:36 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eB0aROCl530 | Apr 13 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Rose Royce - Car Wash (1976) - Invidious | Apr 13 01:36 | |
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| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163653 | Apr 13 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | salty: that'll 'dilute' mentions of the Realthing | Apr 13 01:42 |
| salty | normies do not know what Gemini is (movies vs protocol) | Apr 13 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | space mission | Apr 13 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | zodiac sign | Apr 13 01:43 |
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| techrights-news | Games: Microsoft βBreakingβ Linux and Old World Cines to GNU/Linux β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163654 | Apr 13 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Microsoft 'Breaking' Linux and Old World Cines to GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:47 | |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Remini | Apr 13 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Leah Remini - Wikipedia | Apr 13 01:48 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Squeezes Charities for Cash β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163655 | Apr 13 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Squeezes Charities for Cash | Tux Machines | Apr 13 01:48 | |
| matey | cockney rhyming slang! | Apr 13 01:48 |
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| matey | pandering to normie straw men is a redmond mind trick anyway | Apr 13 01:53 |
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| matey | only microsoft would imply that its somehow wrong to refer to a program by its own name, while they constantly rebrand their own to reputation wash internet mosaic | Apr 13 01:54 |
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| matey | "normies dont know what html stands for!" "well who fucking cares about that anyway" | Apr 13 01:54 |
| matey | better "html" than "ms-web" | Apr 13 01:55 |
| salty | xhtml xml | Apr 13 01:55 |
| matey | uck xhtml with a rusty old tractor | Apr 13 01:55 |
| matey | fuck too | Apr 13 01:55 |
| salty | mhtml mht | Apr 13 01:55 |
| matey | normies probably dont even know what www stands for | Apr 13 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get people. | Apr 13 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | They buy a $60,000 car and ruin it and then act like nothing just happened. | Apr 13 01:57 |
| matey | but thats okay, you dont go to normies for computer advice-- you dont go to a guy leaning out of a pickup truck window for a medical opinion | Apr 13 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> but thats okay, you dont go to normies for computer advice-- you dont go to a guy leaning out of a pickup truck window for a medical opinion | Apr 13 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | No, you go to the guy who costs $2,000 an hour thanks to Obamacare so you can get your blood pressure meds refilled. | Apr 13 01:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββ β ββ ββββ ββββ ββ βββββββ β β βββββ avg(k/sec) 29.40 β IPFS upstream: β βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 49.71β swarm size (avg): 302.05 β² | Apr 13 01:59 |
| matey | when the usa wants to get rid of everyone who knowss about computers, theyll make obamacare for i.t. | Apr 13 01:59 |
| matey | youll get your computer back in 6 weeks with a formatted drive and the latest version of windows. on your macbook. | Apr 13 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Irvin | Apr 13 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Richard C. Irvin - Wikipedia | Apr 13 02:01 | |
| DaemonFC | I decided who I'll vote for this year for Governor of Illinois. | Apr 13 02:01 |
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| techrights-news | Weβll Be Back to Normal Shortly | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/12/back-to-normal-shortly-2/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/12/back-to-normal-shortly-2/ | Apr 13 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Weβll Be Back to Normal Shortly | Techrights | Apr 13 02:01 | |
| bnchs | everyone's shitting over the PSN game license expiration | Apr 13 02:14 |
| bnchs | i knew this was gonna happen | Apr 13 02:14 |
| matey | psn game license <- you need a license to hunt your own playstation in the woods? | Apr 13 02:15 |
| matey | when are they in season? | Apr 13 02:16 |
| bnchs | this is why i hate digital store | Apr 13 02:16 |
| matey | every business is turning into a scam | Apr 13 02:17 |
| matey | thanks, open source | Apr 13 02:17 |
| bnchs | nopaystation ftw | Apr 13 02:17 |
| MinceR | there's at least one digital store without DRM | Apr 13 02:18 |
| techrights-news | Links 12/04/2022: LXQtβs 1.1.0 Promises and PeaZip 8.6 | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/12/peazip-8-6/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/12/peazip-8-6/ | Apr 13 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/04/2022: LXQtβs 1.1.0 Promises and PeaZip 8.6 | Techrights | Apr 13 02:18 | |
| matey | p-droid | Apr 13 02:19 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163656 | Apr 13 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 02:19 | |
| bnchs | my downloaded games haven't gotten expired on me | Apr 13 02:19 |
| techrights-news | Free Software Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163657 | Apr 13 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 02:19 | |
| matey | /me expects the next playstation to be based on android, even though they use bsd now | Apr 13 02:19 |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware and Devices With GNU/Linux Support β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163658 | Apr 13 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: fixed | Apr 13 02:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware and Devices With GNU/Linux Support | Tux Machines | Apr 13 02:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the "code" bit in gemini proxy | Apr 13 02:20 |
| bnchs | also the big joke, it's apparently a date bug in sony's end | Apr 13 02:20 |
| schestowitz | 0d9fa03..beb45db master -> origin/master | Apr 13 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Updating 0d9fa03..beb45db | Apr 13 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Fast-forward | Apr 13 02:21 |
| matey | that elusive y2022 bug no one was expecting | Apr 13 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Gemini/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl | 16 +++++++++++++--- | Apr 13 02:21 |
| matey | <schestowitz> 0d9fa03..beb45db main -> origin/main | Apr 13 02:21 |
| matey | fixed! | Apr 13 02:21 |
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| MinceR | 13 031943 < matey> /me expects the next playstation to be based on android, even though they use bsd now | Apr 13 02:27 |
| MinceR | ouya 2? :> | Apr 13 02:27 |
| matey | the hardware side of it should be a bit more impressive | Apr 13 02:28 |
| matey | but maybe sony will get silly and just use some old sbc. they did come out with that cd player that wont play standard size cds (no, not minidisc) | Apr 13 02:28 |
| matey | ive been boycotting sony for nearly long enough to have a kid and get them into college | Apr 13 02:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 13 02:29 |
| matey | in fact i recently heard from an old college flame... | Apr 13 02:30 |
| matey | i mean that was just before the sony rootkit thing | Apr 13 02:30 |
| matey | if ive sired any kids though its like mick jagger or steven tyler though | Apr 13 02:32 |
| matey | no ones informed me (and i think its unlikely) | Apr 13 02:32 |
| techrights-news | How to install KGraphEditor on Linux | FOSS Linux β https://www.fosslinux.com/58133/kgrapheditor-on-linux.htm δ· Source: fosslinux | Apr 13 02:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | How to install KGraphEditor on Linux | FOSS Linux | Apr 13 02:32 | |
| techrights-news | "If you want to test the Gentoo LiveGUI, but don't feel like cutting short the precious uptime of your machine, here's a handy bash script for testing the iso files with qemu..." https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2022/04/testing-gentoo-livegui-with-qemu.html | Apr 13 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilfridge.blogspot.com | the dilfridge blog: Testing the Gentoo LiveGUI with QEmu | Apr 13 02:34 | |
| techrights-news | Weβve had exceptionally difficult couple of days for technical reasons (issues), hence no articles; but thatβll change shortly as we seem to have resolved all these issues (hours ago) http://techrights.org/2022/04/12/back-to-normal-shortly-2/ | Apr 13 02:35 |
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| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163659 | Apr 13 02:55 |
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| techrights-news | Announcing the First Oracle Solaris 11.4 CBE β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163642 | Apr 13 02:56 |
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| matey | https://www.fsf.org/live | Apr 13 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Live-session β Free Software Foundation β Working together for free software | Apr 13 03:18 | |
| matey | Please note that all online participants and interactions are expected to abide by the safe space policy. https://libreplanet.org/2022/safe-space-policy/ | Apr 13 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libreplanet.org | LibrePlanet 2022 β Safe space policy | Apr 13 03:19 | |
| matey | We are broadcasting live, connect with us on IRC at #fsf on Libera.Chat | Apr 13 03:19 |
| matey | fsf: we fight for your freedom! | Apr 13 03:19 |
| matey | rms: i made the kind guidelines to avoid a coc | Apr 13 03:19 |
| matey | lieplanet: hold my beer | Apr 13 03:19 |
| matey | https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20220413-online "Richard Stallman will be speaking about the free software movement and your freedom. His speech will be nontechnical" | Apr 13 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement β Free Software Foundation β Working together for free software | Apr 13 03:20 | |
| matey | my guess is his speech wont be about the state of free speech in the free software movement | Apr 13 03:20 |
| matey | or about how its impossible to have free software without free speech | Apr 13 03:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 13 03:21 |
| matey | be sure to mention this on liebera.chat, where you certainly wont be shadowbanned for life. | Apr 13 03:21 |
| matey | the official chat of the open software foundation. | Apr 13 03:21 |
| matey | NO SERIOUSLY, PLEASE RICHARD, PROVE ME WRONG so i can stfu | Apr 13 03:22 |
| matey | id love nothing more | Apr 13 03:22 |
| matey | people must think i enjoy being right | Apr 13 03:22 |
| matey | it fucking sucks | Apr 13 03:22 |
| matey | its sucked for like 7 years. hey lucy, im ready to kick the ball now! | Apr 13 03:23 |
| MinceR | + | Apr 13 03:23 |
| matey | people will have freedom when they stop waiting for the fsf to chew it up like a mama bird and regurgitate it into their little beaks | Apr 13 03:24 |
| matey | join us now and share the software https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jAxIJ49uQWY | Apr 13 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Mother bird feeding baby birds - Invidious | Apr 13 03:28 | |
| matey | oh wait, thats not software, its just bugs | Apr 13 03:28 |
| matey | im totally in favour of people helping each other with free software | Apr 13 03:30 |
| matey | thats a good thing | Apr 13 03:30 |
| matey | the fsf is totally in favour of companies taking over that process, so that theyre in control, i mean in charge, i mean so that theyre the ones "helping" us | Apr 13 03:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 13 03:31 |
| matey | this is at odds with people helping each other | Apr 13 03:31 |
| matey | it shouldnt be. i became a fucking libertarian based on the idea that free software could exist and even draw help from companies | Apr 13 03:32 |
| matey | and then the fine print manifested itself. | Apr 13 03:32 |
| matey | its not that libertarianism is impossible | Apr 13 03:32 |
| matey | its just that companies will never want it. | Apr 13 03:32 |
| MinceR | just get rid of humans | Apr 13 03:32 |
| matey | well, you know roy thinks im the one who throws the baby out with the bathwater | Apr 13 03:33 |
| MinceR | or engineer them into something better, something intelligent, something civilized | Apr 13 03:33 |
| matey | and youre like "get rid of the whole fucking bathroom!" | Apr 13 03:33 |
| matey | or engineer them into something better <- thats seems to be the only viable plan | Apr 13 03:33 |
| matey | it all depends what you mean by engineer | Apr 13 03:33 |
| matey | im still in favour of getting rid of government | Apr 13 03:34 |
| matey | but i only know one way to do it that shows real promise | Apr 13 03:34 |
| matey | "get rid of humans" | Apr 13 03:35 |
| matey | mr garrison, every year you tell us to get rid of the <strike>mexicans</strike> humans, and every year we tell you no | Apr 13 03:35 |
| MinceR | sounds very much like "yes" to me | Apr 13 03:37 |
| matey | rofl | Apr 13 03:37 |
| MinceR | with all the steps humans are taking to take themselves out | Apr 13 03:37 |
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| matey | i wouldnt tell anyone to focus only the good stuff | Apr 13 03:38 |
| matey | id be the worlds biggest hypocrite then | Apr 13 03:38 |
| MinceR | what i mean is genetic engineering and/or possibly cybernetics | Apr 13 03:39 |
| matey | but theres nothing wrong with us genetically | Apr 13 03:39 |
| matey | and cybernetics are already here | Apr 13 03:39 |
| MinceR | there's plenty wrong with us genetically | Apr 13 03:39 |
| matey | well i mean | Apr 13 03:39 |
| MinceR | like the fact that we're generally defenseless against memetic pathogens | Apr 13 03:39 |
| matey | we arent perfect, but efforts to be perfect have historically gone REALLY badly | Apr 13 03:40 |
| MinceR | or that most humans end up being too stupid to avoid harming themselves | Apr 13 03:40 |
| matey | genetic utopianism is as bad as any other sort of utopianism | Apr 13 03:40 |
| MinceR | so we just give up? | Apr 13 03:40 |
| matey | i mean progress is the only thing that will save us, so no giving up | Apr 13 03:40 |
| matey | but utopianism is just tyranny with REALLY good marketing | Apr 13 03:41 |
| matey | and weve been down that road lots of times | Apr 13 03:41 |
| matey | so progress is better when it doesnt lead to a utopia | Apr 13 03:41 |
| matey | at least so far | Apr 13 03:41 |
| MinceR | i think you're referring to a much more crude method used in a misguided way | Apr 13 03:41 |
| matey | i mean maybe sometime we will get lucky | Apr 13 03:41 |
| matey | maybe the goal of utopia itself is crude? | Apr 13 03:42 |
| matey | like first we just agree on what perfection is... oops | Apr 13 03:42 |
| MinceR | depends on what a utopia is | Apr 13 03:42 |
| matey | of course | Apr 13 03:42 |
| matey | i mean christians have been waiting to die and get utopia for ages | Apr 13 03:42 |
| MinceR | a society of humans that aren't trying to screw each other over every chance they get, is that utopia? | Apr 13 03:42 |
| matey | and while they wait, why not kill a bunch of people over here for not creating that utopia early while they get impatient | Apr 13 03:42 |
| matey | a society of humans that aren't trying to screw each other over every chance they get, is that utopia? <- nope | Apr 13 03:43 |
| matey | thats just decent people | Apr 13 03:43 |
| MinceR | a society of humans that doesn't aim to propel every sociopath into the position of greatest power possible, is that utopia? | Apr 13 03:43 |
| matey | nope, thats just fucking sanity | Apr 13 03:43 |
| matey | which compared to this, SOUNDS utopian | Apr 13 03:43 |
| MinceR | see, that's what needs to be engineered into humans | Apr 13 03:43 |
| matey | /me coughs "social engineering" | Apr 13 03:43 |
| matey | but even that implies fuckery | Apr 13 03:44 |
| MinceR | genetic | Apr 13 03:44 |
| matey | why would genes do that? | Apr 13 03:44 |
| MinceR | afaik genes do sociopathy | Apr 13 03:44 |
| matey | im gonna say no. | Apr 13 03:44 |
| matey | i honestly think genes are NOT the main ingredient in sociopathy, and maybe science will prove that wrong | Apr 13 03:44 |
| matey | or maybe it has, i think it hasnt. | Apr 13 03:45 |
| MinceR | or we could just let humans off themselves and hope earth life figures something out in the 1 billion years it has left | Apr 13 03:45 |
| MinceR | (fat chance) | Apr 13 03:45 |
| matey | im not going to war with science on this, but i think sociopathy is MOSTLY a nurture issue, not genetic | Apr 13 03:45 |
| matey | genes can be a factor of course | Apr 13 03:45 |
| MinceR | don't go to war with science. practice science. | Apr 13 03:45 |
| matey | and i think genes can produce a sociopath of course | Apr 13 03:45 |
| matey | but i think most sociopathy isnt caused by genes, and i think ultimately science will back me up on that | Apr 13 03:45 |
| matey | which is a great reason to not be at war with it | Apr 13 03:46 |
| matey | when its going to prove you right ultimately | Apr 13 03:46 |
| matey | i think nurture is a way bigger factor than nature on this one | Apr 13 03:46 |
| matey | and ive sort of been "studying" sociopaths all my life | Apr 13 03:46 |
| matey | not formally, not expertly, just otherwise thoroughly | Apr 13 03:46 |
| matey | its a problem id like to see solved at least to the point where it doesnt run the fucking world like it does | Apr 13 03:47 |
| matey | and if science can do a better job, well jolly good for science | Apr 13 03:47 |
| matey | im taking a different approach but im not trying to stop science from doing that | Apr 13 03:47 |
| matey | i see a world run by people who manipulate science for selfish reasons and | Apr 13 03:48 |
| matey | i doubt theyre eager to cure themselves. | Apr 13 03:48 |
| matey | but thats not the only option | Apr 13 03:48 |
| matey | in fact i probably would have been content to focus on free software! | Apr 13 03:49 |
| matey | but as you can see... the fuckers ruined that too | Apr 13 03:49 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 13 03:49 |
| matey | so its not enough to discover fucking insulin or something | Apr 13 03:50 |
| matey | no, you also have to figure out what to do when bayer sends thugs to try to torch your house for it | Apr 13 03:50 |
| matey | and so on | Apr 13 03:50 |
| matey | if you look at poor lessigs career, its just like that | Apr 13 03:50 |
| matey | hes going to terraform a planet so it can have saner copyright laws | Apr 13 03:51 |
| matey | thats the only way he can go "up" from the level hes at now | Apr 13 03:51 |
| matey | he took it to scotus nearly 20 years ago. hes obviously skipped the united nations as theyre useless | Apr 13 03:51 |
| matey | if he kills putin and starts a galactic war, ill be like "thats our lessig" | Apr 13 03:52 |
| matey | theres a guy who wouldnt stop ahead of jesus himself to see that copyright law gets reformed | Apr 13 03:52 |
| matey | though id be just as happy if we abolished it like the idiotic relic it is | Apr 13 03:52 |
| matey | we hardly ever use leeches in medicine anymore | Apr 13 03:53 |
| matey | copyleft is alright, but not worth keeping copyright around for (despite what rms and mjg say) | Apr 13 03:53 |
| matey | copyleft is a treatment posing as a cure, and its a good treatment if we have nothing else | Apr 13 03:54 |
| mjg59_ | Oh I'm in favour of getting rid of copyright even if it means losing copyleft | Apr 13 03:54 |
| matey | but keeping copyright around isnt necessarily sane | Apr 13 03:54 |
| mjg59_ | I just want people to understand what the consequences are | Apr 13 03:54 |
| matey | I'm in favour of getting rid of copyright even if it means losing copyleft <- hey! | Apr 13 03:54 |
| matey | yeah i mean patents get people to disclose how things work | Apr 13 03:54 |
| matey | if you care about these issues for long enough you pick up the basics | Apr 13 03:55 |
| matey | copyleft has merits too | Apr 13 03:55 |
| matey | im in favour of a scientific approach to copyleft | Apr 13 03:55 |
| matey | no dogma, no sentimentality, just facts and context and research and findings. | Apr 13 03:55 |
| matey | historical evidence counts, hypotheses count but arent findings. | Apr 13 03:56 |
| matey | ive heard damned good hypotheses for copyleft, even helped spread them. | Apr 13 03:56 |
| matey | im not emotionally attached to it. copyleft is a tool for making something happen. if it fails, or costs too much, fuck it. | Apr 13 03:56 |
| mjg59_ | But getting rid of copyright would almost certainly involve a shitload more DRM | Apr 13 03:56 |
| mjg59_ | It'd just be enforced through contract law rather than copyright | Apr 13 03:57 |
| matey | imo drm is propped up mostly through copyright | Apr 13 03:57 |
| matey | without things like dmca it would be laughable | Apr 13 03:57 |
| mjg59_ | Eventually we'd break the DRM, but it's always going to be an arms race | Apr 13 03:57 |
| matey | unless of course, theres some secret black ops extraterrestrial area 51 drm lurking in some quantum computing lab | Apr 13 03:57 |
| matey | waiting for a day when copyright is abolished, to show us what REAL copy protection looks like | Apr 13 03:58 |
| matey | then i guess we would be really fucked | Apr 13 03:58 |
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| matey | imo if drm worked that well... it wouldnt need bs like dmca propping it up, cutting swaths of "first sale doctrine" out of libraries | Apr 13 03:59 |
| mjg59_ | DMCA propping it up means they can spend less money on it | Apr 13 03:59 |
| matey | libraries are an arms race too... or they were until about 20 years ago | Apr 13 03:59 |
| matey | DMCA propping it up means they can spend less money on it <- fair point | Apr 13 03:59 |
| matey | but spending more money on it means we can hurt them more with it | Apr 13 03:59 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, DRM is a thing where everyone loses | Apr 13 03:59 |
| matey | like software patents | Apr 13 04:00 |
| mjg59_ | But people will try to extend an existing business model even in the face of changing circumstances | Apr 13 04:00 |
| matey | of course | Apr 13 04:00 |
| matey | its just business | Apr 13 04:00 |
| matey | oh, sorry iraqi civilians | Apr 13 04:00 |
| matey | just business | Apr 13 04:00 |
| matey | i was happy to play nice with capitalists until very recently | Apr 13 04:01 |
| matey | they went to far, and a quanity became a quality | Apr 13 04:01 |
| matey | no more libertarian mr nice guy | Apr 13 04:01 |
| matey | you know i actually met mark dice once? | Apr 13 04:02 |
| matey | he turned into kind of a dick | Apr 13 04:02 |
| matey | i mean i only met him once, he was probably always like that | Apr 13 04:02 |
| matey | but seeing him on youtube, damn | Apr 13 04:02 |
| matey | what a douche | Apr 13 04:02 |
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| matey | not like that in person, at least he wasnt | Apr 13 04:02 |
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| matey | /me isnt sure how many people know who mark dice is | Apr 13 04:03 |
| MinceR | 13 045428 < mjg59_> Oh I'm in favour of getting rid of copyright even if it means losing copyleft | Apr 13 04:03 |
| MinceR | same | Apr 13 04:03 |
| MinceR | copyleft seems to be losing its teeth anyway | Apr 13 04:03 |
| matey | im not one of the people writing a eulogy for copyleft yet | Apr 13 04:03 |
| matey | i still think most of the "gotcha last" memes are flimsy | Apr 13 04:04 |
| matey | but we will see | Apr 13 04:04 |
| matey | im comfortable with permissive and with copyleft | Apr 13 04:04 |
| matey | ive written permissive licensed software, public domain software and gpl3 software | Apr 13 04:04 |
| matey | however im not sure that kuhns take on copyleft is a good idea | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | on the one hand, maybe copyleft cant work without it... | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | on the other hand, maybe copyright trolls can harass you over your own software | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | but they can do that with permissive too | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | its really a cultural issue imo as much as a legal one | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | what culture are we building | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | the laws will ultimately fit the culture, they always do | Apr 13 04:06 |
| matey | if we bow to corporations, we will be ruled by corporate laws | Apr 13 04:07 |
| matey | if we reject their shit, we will be ruled less | Apr 13 04:07 |
| matey | people think its not that simple, because theres evidence to the contrary | Apr 13 04:07 |
| matey | but theres also a lot of evidence that its true | Apr 13 04:07 |
| matey | we dont focus on it of course, because the media isnt sympathetic to the people, its own by monopolies | Apr 13 04:08 |
| matey | even the tech press is mostly charlatans like roy says | Apr 13 04:08 |
| matey | shills | Apr 13 04:08 |
| matey | short term gains, long term sellouts | Apr 13 04:08 |
| matey | mr microbel and his crates being the most recent most comical example | Apr 13 04:09 |
| matey | spamnil still relevant as a bad example | Apr 13 04:09 |
| matey | things i dont dispute | Apr 13 04:09 |
| matey | unionisation is making progress | Apr 13 04:10 |
| matey | i dont hold any illusions about unions being the answer to everything | Apr 13 04:10 |
| matey | what typically happens to a union is someone makes it to the top who spends half their time selling out and capitulating | Apr 13 04:10 |
| matey | they negotiate between the union members and the businesses | Apr 13 04:10 |
| matey | then one day they sell out too much and get their head cut off | Apr 13 04:11 |
| matey | or they just get replaced with someone else, and find something else to do with their time | Apr 13 04:11 |
| matey | unions provide a push, a first step, a staging area for further progress | Apr 13 04:11 |
| matey | but a lot of what happens with them is also bullshit | Apr 13 04:12 |
| matey | and they also accomplish things too | Apr 13 04:12 |
| matey | theres a lot of unionisation going on in tech that isnt talked about much | Apr 13 04:12 |
| matey | huge strides in the past few years | Apr 13 04:12 |
| matey | if its not the solution, it counts as a sign | Apr 13 04:12 |
| matey | its a big sign of things to come | Apr 13 04:13 |
| matey | "big tech" as they say is going to get real opponents | Apr 13 04:13 |
| matey | fuck knows when... but for certain | Apr 13 04:13 |
| matey | i doubt rms will mention 5% of this today | Apr 13 04:14 |
| matey | he has too many people to please, and he actually cares about making people happy now | Apr 13 04:14 |
| matey | progress isnt happy business. only opportunists want you to think its all fucking sunshine so they can sell you bs | Apr 13 04:14 |
| matey | "i love you all!" lennart poettering actually said this | Apr 13 04:15 |
| matey | he should have put up two victory signs like nixon (churchhill?) | Apr 13 04:15 |
| matey | i think they still mean the same thing as in the states when the palms are outward :) | Apr 13 04:16 |
| matey | "oh, sorry, i did that backwards" | Apr 13 04:16 |
| matey | "During the Vietnam War, in the 1960s, the "V sign" with palm outward was widely adopted by the counterculture as a symbol of peace and still today in the United States it is commonly called the "peace sign". Shortly thereafter, it also became a gesture associated with fun used in photographs, especially in East Asia, where the gesture is also associated with cuteness." | Apr 13 04:20 |
| matey | asia really is novel as fuck sometimes. | Apr 13 04:20 |
| matey | "The more widespread use as a victory sign ("V for Victory"), with the palm outward, was introduced in January 1941 as part of a campaign by the Allies of World War II." | Apr 13 04:21 |
| matey | boomers at it | Apr 13 04:22 |
| matey | who knew it was invented by boomers | Apr 13 04:22 |
| matey | or their parents | Apr 13 04:22 |
| matey | i was right, churchill did it too | Apr 13 04:23 |
| matey | "By July 1941, the emblematic use of the letter V had spread through occupied Europe. On 19 July, Prime Minister Winston Churchill referred approvingly to the V for Victory campaign in a speech,[36] from which point he started using the V hand sign." | Apr 13 04:24 |
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| matey | this is funny | Apr 13 04:24 |
| matey | "The Germans could not remove all the signs, so they adopted the V Sign as a German symbol, sometimes adding laurel leaves under it, painting their own V's on walls, vehicles and adding a massive V on the Eiffel Tower." | Apr 13 04:24 |
| matey | "ve also changed zee vay ve pronounce vords!" | Apr 13 04:25 |
| matey | probably not related | Apr 13 04:25 |
| matey | they are really pushing for funding | Apr 13 04:36 |
| matey | The FSF runs an advanced, fully free software streaming system. We appreciate your support for infrastructure and initiatives like this live presentation. | Apr 13 04:36 |
| matey | Shop GNU Press gear! | Apr 13 04:36 |
| matey | "for this talk, richard stallman is wearing a classic fsf logo print polo shirt, available in from our store." | Apr 13 04:37 |
| matey | "are you tired of companies that dont respect your freedom? so are we... join us today and give us money so you can hear lots more about joining us and giving us money" | Apr 13 04:38 |
| matey | i wouldnt be so hard on them (lies!) except ive seen this sort of thing in actual cults | Apr 13 04:39 |
| matey | it starts out about love and humanity and pretty soon its just one long fundraising drive | Apr 13 04:39 |
| matey | everythings free, and an invitation to give give give | Apr 13 04:39 |
| matey | and you dont have to of course, but if you CARE you WILL give give give | Apr 13 04:39 |
| matey | and very quickly you realise that its not about anything except the fundraising | Apr 13 04:40 |
| matey | and they really have nothing left to say, because they stopped paying attention to their own cause | Apr 13 04:40 |
| matey | im not saying thats whats happened to the fsf | Apr 13 04:40 |
| matey | im only saying that for a few years thats the trend ive tried to see something besides | Apr 13 04:41 |
| matey | maybe this year! | Apr 13 04:41 |
| matey | "How NFTs in Videogames Could Shape the Metaverseβs Future | WSJ" "Wall Street Journal" | Apr 13 04:52 |
| matey | ... | Apr 13 04:52 |
| matey | when did the wall street journal get purchased by the history channel? | Apr 13 04:52 |
| matey | "aliens" | Apr 13 04:53 |
| matey | also i was searching for "nixon" | Apr 13 04:53 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, April 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 13 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Apr 13 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 13 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 13 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163661 | Apr 13 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | "This seems like a simple enough problem to solve. Add the proxy to the system settings, import the certificate to the global cert store and be done with it" β https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/04/getting-web-proxys-and-certificates.html | Source: Jussi Pakkanen | Apr 13 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch" | Apr 13 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Between 2022-04-05 and 2022-04-12 there were 25 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients." β https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-clients-2022-04-12/ | Source: Boiling Steam | Apr 13 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-12 Edition - Boiling Steam | Apr 13 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | "Distro hopping is a term that refers to the activity of computer users constantly installing and trying out different Linux distributions and/or BSD variants" β https://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-flaws-of-distro-hopping-and-asking-other-people-about-their-os-of-choice.html | Source: Unix Sheikh | Apr 13 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixsheikh.com | The flaws of distro hopping and asking other people about their OS of choice | Apr 13 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | "The Linux kernel has a number of fs.* sysctls to restrict the ability to do various traditionally allowed things that have proven to (sometimes) be exploitable" β https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/DebianProcpsOpinionated | Source: uni Toronto | Apr 13 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/DebianProcpsOpinionated | Apr 13 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | "By default, keys are not loaded in flash, and the bootloader will boot any sketch." β https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/ | Source: Arduino | Apr 13 08:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Introducing the Arduino secure boot | Apr 13 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Raspberry Pi computers require a piece of non-free software to boot" β https://gwolf.org/2022/04/how-is-the-free-firmware-for-the-raspberry-progressing.html | Source: Gunnar Wolf | Apr 13 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gwolf.org | Gunnar Wolfβ’ How is the free firmware for the Raspberry progressing? | Apr 13 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | "To conclude, why did I title this post why you should(nβt) care about Monads if youβre an R programmer?" β https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/why-you-shouldnt-care-about-monads-if-youre-an-r-programmer/ | Source: Rlang | Apr 13 08:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why you should(nβt) care about Monads if youβre an R programmer | R-bloggers | Apr 13 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | "I think itβs interesting to see how the design principles of the web seep into technologies and tools we use everyday" β https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/permeating-principles-of-the-web/ | Source: Jim Nielsen | Apr 13 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | Examples of the Permeating Principles of the Web - Jim Nielsenβs Blog | Apr 13 08:23 | |
| techrights-news | "Language Server Protocol (LSP) has quietly become a standard integration point, and thus a technical wedge." β https://matt-rickard.com/language-server-protocols/ | Source: Matt Rickard | Apr 13 08:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Language Server Protocols | Apr 13 08:23 | |
| techrights-news | "Never change anything. You can only make it worse." β https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/two-and-a-half-bad-bits | Source: Ted Unangst | Apr 13 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flak.tedunangst.com | two and a half bad bits | Apr 13 08:23 | |
| techrights-news | "digital identity, digital signature and e-services" β https://news.err.ee/1608562972/estonia-supporting-mongolia-s-digital-transformation | Source: Eesti RahvusringhÀÀling | Apr 13 08:24 |
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| techrights-news | "The court acknowledged that there was no evidence that Oberlin participated in drafting the flyer or the student senate resolution." β https://www.natlawreview.com/article/ohio-court-appeals-affirms-30-million-libel-verdict-against-oberlin-college | Source: National LawReview US | Apr 13 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Ohio Court affirmed $30,000,000 Judgement Against Oberlin College | Apr 13 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "For another, the First Amendment isnβt as protective of protest as you might think." β https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/colleges-should-pay-heedto-oberlins-costly-libel-case/2022/04/07/04c251fe-b680-11ec-8358-20aa16355fb4_story.html | Source: The Washington Post | Apr 13 08:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Colleges Should Pay HeedΒ to Oberlinβs Costly Libel Case - The Washington Post | Apr 13 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "CNN Plus is reportedly struggling to gain viewers just two weeks out from its launch, according to a report from CNBC." β https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/12/23022359/cnn-plus-viewership-rates-streaming-warnermedia | Source: The Verge | Apr 13 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | CNN Plus is reportedly drawing fewer than 10,000 viewers a day - The Verge | Apr 13 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | "The subscription news streaming service, which charges $5.99 a month or $59.99 annually" β https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/12/cnn-plus-low-viewership-numbers-warner-bros-discovery.html | Source: CNBC | Apr 13 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | CNN+ struggles to lure viewers, drawing under 10,000 daily users | Apr 13 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | "The fundamental problem with npm is that any package you install has full access to do whatever it wants on your computer. For example, packages can: [...]" β https://josephg.com/blog/node-sandbox/ | Source: Seph | Apr 13 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-josephg.com | Capabilities for Nodejs | Apr 13 08:27 | |
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| techrights-news | "the issue is now being examined again. The use of biometric data came up again in Parliament in 2021" β https://yle.fi/news/3-12401655 | Source: YLE | Apr 13 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Ministry considers allowing police to use passport fingerprints in solving crimes | News | Yle Uutiset | Apr 13 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | "At some time after March 23, 2022, the threat actor installed wipers across the entire network, multiple substations." β https://gru.gq/2022/04/12/i-cant-believe-its-not-cyberwar/ | Source: TheGrugq | Apr 13 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gru.gq | I canβt believe its not cyberwar | Apr 13 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | "Previously some loans came with annual interest of 700-800 percent" β https://cphpost.dk/?p=133135 | Source: Copenhagen Post | Apr 13 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Business Round-Up: Consumer council chair concerned about loan sharks on Facebook - The Post | Apr 13 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | "Twitter investors who sold their shares in the 11 days that Elon Musk was late in notifying financial regulators that heβd acquired a considerable stake in the company" β https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/elon-musk-sued-twitter-investors-over-late-disclosure-1235129366/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter | Apr 13 08:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Elon Musk Sued by Twitter Investors Over Late Disclosure β The Hollywood Reporter | Apr 13 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | "Musk disclosed in an SEC filing on April 4 that he had bought shares representing 9.2 percent of Twitter, making him the largest outside shareholder of the company" β https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-lawsuit-twitter-sued-sec-disclosures-rcna24138 | Source: NBC | Apr 13 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Elon Musk sued by investor over delayed Twitter filing | Apr 13 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | "This may have been particularly pressing for Musk since there seem to be so many legal issues dogging him already, including some related to his large stake in Twitter" β https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/12/23021248/elon-musk-twitter-troll-board-seat-fiduciary-vs-fun | Source: The Verge | Apr 13 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | How Elon Musk got everything he wanted out of Twitter - The Verge | Apr 13 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | "Taxi drivers and taxi firms may not now use the Yandex tax app (Yandex Pro) to fulfill orders" β https://news.err.ee/1608561205/yandex-ban-begins-in-estonia-on-monday | Source: Eesti RahvusringhÀÀling | Apr 13 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | Yandex ban begins in Estonia on Monday | News | ERR | Apr 13 08:36 | |
| techrights-news | "Headquartered in Washington, D.C., SIA represents 99 per cent of the US semiconductor industry by revenue and nearly two-thirds of non-US chip firms." β https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/top-us-trade-body-to-help-india-become-global-chip-manufacturing-hub/90802317 | Source: India Times | Apr 13 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | semiconductor manufacturing: Top US trade body to help India become global chip manufacturing hub, CIO News, ET CIO | Apr 13 08:36 | |
| techrights-news | Digital Restrictions (DRM) "Lets start out with the good, the hardware itself, before we tell you why you should almost assuredly avoid it and buy Intel instead, they are still unquestionably safe" β https://semiaccurate.com/2022/01/18/amds-new-cpus-may-be-safe-to-deploy/ | Source: SemiAccurate | Apr 13 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD's new CPUs may be safe to deploy - SemiAccurate | Apr 13 08:39 | |
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| schestowitz | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D201.jpg | Apr 13 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "You may think that my tech-skeptical luddite brain would not get sucked into stravaβs data science gamification. But you would be wrong" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Apr 13 08:50 |
| techrights-news | "I'll summarise, as that's the sort of web site that we came to Gemini to avoid." gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-04-13_Hot_dogs_and__.gmi | Apr 13 08:51 |
| techrights-news | "Matto has interesting article about RCS (ancient version control system, from '80s) and keyword expansion in it. I hadn't been aware of such thing. And it's possible also in Git (with some work around)." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Apr 13 08:51 |
| techrights-news | My unpopular opinions about programming gemini://envs.net/~ae/gemlog/unpopular-opinions.gmi | Apr 13 08:52 |
| techrights-news | "I've already mentioned this idea on my Mastodon account a while ago, but I feel like it's time to actually start working on it, now that I have very little schoolwork to do." gemini://envs.net/~ae/gemlog/designing-simple-isa.gmi | Apr 13 08:52 |
| techrights-news | "Ed Sheeren has made it onto Techdirtβs radar many, many times." β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/12/depressing-ed-sheeren-films-songwriting-sessions-due-to-all-the-copyright-suits/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 13 08:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Depressing: Ed Sheeran Films Songwriting Sessions Due To All The Copyright Suits | Techdirt | Apr 13 08:53 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft patches holes only after they get exploited in the wild, and not only by NSA | Apr 13 08:56 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/irc-log-120422/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/13/irc-log-120422/ | Apr 13 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 | Techrights | Apr 13 08:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β ββββ βββββββ ββββββ β β βββ ββ ββββββββ β β β avg(k/sec) 27.98 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 93.70β swarm size (avg): 308.55 β² | Apr 13 08:59 |
| techrights-news | "As Russia has faced a flood of sanctions for its brutal invasion of Ukraine, many telecom companies" β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/12/u-s-eases-off-telecom-sanctions-that-could-encourage-a-russian-splinternet/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 13 09:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Eases Off Telecom Sanctions That Could Encourage A Russian Splinternet | Techdirt | Apr 13 09:02 | |
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| techrights-news | "unionizing" β https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-makes-a-formal-move-to-make-it-easier-to-unionize/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 13 10:01 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: truthout.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-makes-a-formal-move-to-make-it-easier-to-unionize/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-makes-a-formal-move-to-make-it-easier-to-unionize/ | Apr 13 10:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Labor Boardβs Top Counsel Makes a Formal Move to Make it Easier to Unionize | Apr 13 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | Don't work at SweatshopZone. Don't buy, either. β https://truthout.org/articles/nearly-half-of-all-warehouse-injuries-in-2021-happened-at-amazon-warehouses/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 13 10:02 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: truthout.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/nearly-half-of-all-warehouse-injuries-in-2021-happened-at-amazon-warehouses/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/nearly-half-of-all-warehouse-injuries-in-2021-happened-at-amazon-warehouses/ | Apr 13 10:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Nearly Half of All Warehouse Injuries in 2021 Happened at Amazon Warehouses | Apr 13 10:02 | |
| techrights-news | Voting instead of labouring β https://truthout.org/articles/democrats-introduce-bill-guaranteeing-workers-paid-time-off-to-vote/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 13 10:06 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: truthout.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/democrats-introduce-bill-guaranteeing-workers-paid-time-off-to-vote/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/democrats-introduce-bill-guaranteeing-workers-paid-time-off-to-vote/ | Apr 13 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Democrats Introduce Bill Guaranteeing Workers Paid Time Off to Vote | Apr 13 10:06 | |
| techrights-news | "Chasing the Capitalists and Thieves Who Got Rich While We Got Sick" β https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/12/pandemic_inc_capitalists_pandemic_j_david | Source: Democracy Now | Apr 13 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | βPandemic, Inc.β: J. David McSwane on Chasing Capitalists & Thieves Who Got Rich While We Got Sick | Democracy Now! | Apr 13 10:08 | |
| techrights-news | The problem is, ProPublica bagged bribed from one of those who profited from the sickness. ProPublica is taking bribes from Bill Gates, then complains? https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ | Apr 13 10:09 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: thenation.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ | Apr 13 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation | Apr 13 10:09 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | [10:16] <Techrights-sec> If you look at recent editions of Linux Mint, it requires Restricted Boot | Apr 13 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:16] <Techrights-sec> to be active if it is to install the proprietary codecs. As far as I know | Apr 13 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:16] <Techrights-sec> that means they are pushing some kind of DRM with anti-end user lock down | Apr 13 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:16] <Techrights-sec> and lock in | Apr 13 10:16 |
| techrights-news | "The Allliance for Creativity and Entertainment is trying to find out who's operating the popular pirate streaming site Flixtor." β https://torrentfreak.com/ace-targets-flixtor-news-domain-with-a-dmca-subpoena-220412/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Apr 13 10:17 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/ace-targets-flixtor-news-domain-with-a-dmca-subpoena-220412/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/ace-targets-flixtor-news-domain-with-a-dmca-subpoena-220412/ | Apr 13 10:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACE Targets Flixtor 'News' Domain With a DMCA Subpoena * TorrentFreak | Apr 13 10:17 | |
| techrights-news | "GulagTube tenant/hostage 'Omi in a Hellcat' is currently being prosecuted by the United States government for offenses related to his now-defunct pirate IPTV services" β https://torrentfreak.com/omi-in-a-hellcat-sued-again-this-time-over-pirate-iptv-brand-reloaded-220412/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Apr 13 10:17 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/omi-in-a-hellcat-sued-again-this-time-over-pirate-iptv-brand-reloaded-220412/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/omi-in-a-hellcat-sued-again-this-time-over-pirate-iptv-brand-reloaded-220412/ | Apr 13 10:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Omi in a Hellcat Sued Again, This Time Over Pirate IPTV Brand 'Reloaded' * TorrentFreak | Apr 13 10:17 | |
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| techrights-news | boycott amazon β https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/staggering-analysis-finds-amazons-injury-rate-rose-20-last-year | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 13 10:22 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/staggering-analysis-finds-amazons-injury-rate-rose-20-last-year https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/staggering-analysis-finds-amazons-injury-rate-rose-20-last-year | Apr 13 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Staggering' Analysis Finds Amazon's Injury Rate Rose 20% Last Year | Apr 13 10:22 | |
| techrights-news | iTWire - Over 100 patches issued by Microsoft for April; two zero-days, one exploited β https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/over-100-patches-issued-by-microsoft-for-april-two-zero-days,-one-exploited.html Microsoft patches holes only after they get exploited in the wild, and not only by NSA | Apr 13 10:29 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: itwire.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/over-100-patches-issued-by-microsoft-for-april-two-zero-days,-one-exploited.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/over-100-patches-issued-by-microsoft-for-april-two-zero-days,-one-exploited.html | Apr 13 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Over 100 patches issued by Microsoft for April; two zero-days, one exploited | Apr 13 10:29 | |
| techrights-news | Amazon (SweatshopZone) needs a boycott β https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-calls-on-amazon-to-sit-down-and-start-negotiating-a-contract/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 13 10:31 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: truthout.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-calls-on-amazon-to-sit-down-and-start-negotiating-a-contract/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-calls-on-amazon-to-sit-down-and-start-negotiating-a-contract/ | Apr 13 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Bernie Sanders Calls on Amazon to "Sit Down and Start Negotiating a Contract" | Apr 13 10:31 | |
| techrights-news | "Like pretty much every other large gathering, the Midwest and East Coast RepRap Festivals had to be put on hold during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic" β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/12/warm-up-your-extruders-reprap-festivals-are-back/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 13 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Warm Up Your Extruders, RepRap Festivals Are Back | Hackaday | Apr 13 10:33 | |
| matey | If you look at recent editions of Linux Mint, it requires Restricted Boot to be active if it is to install the proprietary codecs. | Apr 13 10:35 |
| matey | fuck linux mint then | Apr 13 10:35 |
| matey | or perhaps it should be called linux digital restrictions mint | Apr 13 10:36 |
| matey | or just digital restrictions mint since linux is a brand designed to fuck the user anyway | Apr 13 10:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Linux Mint DRM Edition | Apr 13 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | aka LMDE | Apr 13 10:42 |
| activelow | restricted boot? | Apr 13 10:42 |
| activelow | https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot | Apr 13 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Will your computer's "Secure Boot" turn out to be "Restricted Boot"? β Free Software Foundation β Working together for free software | Apr 13 10:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | it was NEVER about security | Apr 13 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | when regimes and corporations asy "security" they mean controel | Apr 13 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | by them oiver you | Apr 13 10:44 |
| activelow | same as "secure boot" | Apr 13 10:44 |
| techrights-news | "On January 8, 2020, two days after the January 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol, Twitter banned then-President Trump from the platform, citing a βrisk of further incitement of violence.β" β https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/eff-and-partners-ninth-circuit-court-appeals-retaliatory-investigation-twitter | Source: EFF | Apr 13 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF and Partners to Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals: Retaliatory Investigation of Twitter Chills First Amendment Rights | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Apr 13 10:48 | |
| techrights-news | RaidForums β https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/raidforums-get-raided-alleged-admin-arrested/ | Source: Krebs On Security | Apr 13 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | RaidForums Gets Raided, Alleged Admin Arrested β Krebs on Security | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | Amazon Labor Union β https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/sanders-praises-amazon-union-inspiring-national-sweeping-movement | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 13 10:49 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/sanders-praises-amazon-union-inspiring-national-sweeping-movement https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/sanders-praises-amazon-union-inspiring-national-sweeping-movement | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Praises Amazon Union for Inspiring a 'National, Sweeping Movement' | Apr 13 10:49 | |
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| techrights-news | "In the 1970s, global political and corporate elites had all the information they needed to put the world on a path toward long-term stability" β https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/12/failure-global-elites-and-what-you-should-do-next | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 13 10:53 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/12/failure-global-elites-and-what-you-should-do-next https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/12/failure-global-elites-and-what-you-should-do-next | Apr 13 10:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Failure of Global Elitesβand What You Should Do Next | Richard Heinberg | Apr 13 10:53 | |
| matey | If you look at recent editions of Linux Mint, it requires Restricted Boot to be active if it is to install the proprietary codecs. | Apr 13 10:54 |
| matey | fuck linux mint then | Apr 13 10:54 |
| matey | or perhaps it should be called linux digital restrictions mint | Apr 13 10:54 |
| matey | or just digital restrictions mint since linux is a brand designed to fuck the user anyway | Apr 13 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:37] <matey> or just digital restrictions mint since linux is a brand designed to fuck the user anyway | Apr 13 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:42] <schestowitz-TR> Linux Mint DRM Edition | Apr 13 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:42] <schestowitz-TR> aka LMDE | Apr 13 10:54 |
| matey | yep | Apr 13 10:55 |
| matey | bastards | Apr 13 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | You seem to have lost the connection after you had said the same | Apr 13 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:21] <schestowitz-TR> because the technical attack is a collusion | Apr 13 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:21] <schestowitz-TR> and an attack on culture itself | Apr 13 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:21] <schestowitz-TR> and peopls' ability to controls the means of production and distribuion | Apr 13 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> DMCA and EUCD pre-emptively block that. DMCA makes publication of advice | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> regarding cirumvention, even as simple as base64 or ROT-13, into a major | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> felony with a 5-year jail sentence | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> yes it is most definitely an attack on culture. | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> For a while, when the PP was active, they used to talk about (re-)freeing | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> culture. They are still active in Germany but have shutdown or been | Apr 13 10:56 |
| matey | You seem to have lost the connection after you had said the same | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> neutralized in other countries. The US cannot have small parties because | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:23] <Techrights-sec> of the first past the post voting which ensures two parties and furthermore | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:24] <Techrights-sec> the funding process ensures that core policies of the two parties overlap. | Apr 13 10:56 |
| matey | i went looking in the scrollback to see if it was there | Apr 13 10:56 |
| matey | but i guess it hadnt updated yet | Apr 13 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini:// takes longer to update | Apr 13 10:58 |
| matey | oh no wait | Apr 13 10:58 |
| matey | hahah | Apr 13 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | every 5 mins the html is updated | Apr 13 10:58 |
| matey | nope its not that, its funnier than that | Apr 13 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini fetches that html output every 10 | Apr 13 10:58 |
| matey | ive excluded myself from my own view of the scrollback :) | Apr 13 10:58 |
| matey | thats why it didnt show | Apr 13 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | so in theory gemini can be up to 15 mins 'behind' | Apr 13 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, there are programs for it | Apr 13 10:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β βββββββββ ββββββ ββ ββββ β ββ β βββ ββ βββ avg(k/sec) 30.08 β IPFS upstream: βββ βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ β avg(k/sec) 44.96β swarm size (avg): 303.70 β² | Apr 13 10:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you don't mean your own irc clients | Apr 13 10:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | we wrote some programs to work with curl/wget via the server | Apr 13 10:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | even without irc client | Apr 13 10:59 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/11/06/reading-concise-irc-logs-of-techrights-in-almost-real-time-from-the-command-line/ | Apr 13 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reading Concise IRC Logs of Techrights in (Almost) Real Time From the Command Line | Techrights | Apr 13 11:00 | |
| matey | theres a few factors at work here | Apr 13 11:00 |
| matey | first, i dont normally exclude myself from the scrollback. the bots are the first to get the axe | Apr 13 11:01 |
| matey | i intended it as a one-off but i havent removed the exclusion. normally i realise its there | Apr 13 11:01 |
| matey | its normally useful for context | Apr 13 11:01 |
| matey | im just up from a nap, so im groggy | Apr 13 11:01 |
| matey | im drinking my tea now (non-vegan) | Apr 13 11:02 |
| matey | so when i went to see if it had posted, of course my posts werent there because they were removed (by me) | Apr 13 11:02 |
| matey | and i thought "mmmuhhh, guess they didnt post" as seen through half-lifted eyelids | Apr 13 11:03 |
| matey | either way i decided to repost the shorter version :) | Apr 13 11:03 |
| techrights-news | βnews desertsβ and βghost papers.β β https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/12/stripped-parts-hedge-fund-destroying-us-journalism | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 13 11:03 |
| matey | which with this added, isnt shorter anymore | Apr 13 11:03 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/12/stripped-parts-hedge-fund-destroying-us-journalism https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/12/stripped-parts-hedge-fund-destroying-us-journalism | Apr 13 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | 'Stripped for Parts': On the Hedge Fund Destroying US Journalism | Rick Goldsmith | Apr 13 11:03 | |
| matey | there is of course an entire subcontinent where milk in tea is culturally typical | Apr 13 11:04 |
| matey | though even there, its still not vegan | Apr 13 11:04 |
| techrights-news | "The people who have the most interest in influencing the direction of the coverage are weapons-makers" β https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/new-reporting-details-corporate-medias-war-industry-pundits | Source: Common Dreams | Apr 13 11:04 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: commondreams.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/new-reporting-details-corporate-medias-war-industry-pundits https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/12/new-reporting-details-corporate-medias-war-industry-pundits | Apr 13 11:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | New Reporting Details Corporate Media's War Industry Pundits | Apr 13 11:04 | |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz: There's a strong security argument for Secure Boot, and the FSF recognise that. | Apr 13 11:05 |
| matey | oh god | Apr 13 11:05 |
| matey | well, add it to the reasons the fsf is silly | Apr 13 11:05 |
| mjg59_ | Pretty much any technology can be used for ill | Apr 13 11:05 |
| matey | maybe rms will mention progress on secure boot in his state of free software talk | Apr 13 11:06 |
| mjg59_ | As long as the owner of a device has control over that technology and can use it as they see fit, it's not a threat to freedom | Apr 13 11:06 |
| matey | Pretty much any technology can be used for ill <- like cluster munitions | Apr 13 11:06 |
| matey | As long as the owner of a device has control over that technology and can use it as they see fit, it's not a threat to freedo <- like cluster munitions | Apr 13 11:06 |
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| matey | "hey johnny, what are you playing with?" | Apr 13 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | I need a new serpentine belt. | Apr 13 11:06 |
| matey | "oh! its just a toy i found out KABOOM!" | Apr 13 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | It was chirping this morning then went away after the car got driven a little. | Apr 13 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | Belt fatigue most likely. They can do that from just being 14 years old even if they look okay. | Apr 13 11:07 |
| mjg59_ | Well yeah the freedom to use your device as you see fit shouldn't allow that to affect others | Apr 13 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just add that to the list of things to grab today. | Apr 13 11:07 |
| mjg59_ | And nor should it be a situation where someone else is able to coerce a previously trustworthy device into harming you | Apr 13 11:08 |
| matey | i guess what im saying is that some devices in practice are not really neutral | Apr 13 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Non-Vegan..... | Apr 13 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | REAL SHIT *eyes wide open* | Apr 13 11:08 |
| matey | daemonfc: with milk | Apr 13 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | not surprise that he digs in deeper with his anti-Freedom stance against | Apr 13 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | regular computing | Apr 13 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | With restricted boot and TPM the end user is cut out of the loop | Apr 13 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | No point arguing with that shill though | Apr 13 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm cooking some breakfast sausage biscuits in the air fryer. | Apr 13 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | The Jimmy Dean ones really are better than the Walmart brand. | Apr 13 11:09 |
| matey | JAMES DEAN | Apr 13 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | He was from the next town over to where I lived when I was a kid. | Apr 13 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | Fairmount, Indiana | Apr 13 11:09 |
| matey | i loved jimmy dean (the sausage, i wasnt familiar with the actor) as a kid | Apr 13 11:09 |
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| mjg59_ | Techrights-sec: How is regular computing inhibited by this? | Apr 13 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | My friend's dad was the mayor of Fairmount for like 30 years? | Apr 13 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | Something like that. | Apr 13 11:09 |
| matey | i dont enjoy pork anymore. i can eat it, but i dont enjoy it | Apr 13 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | They kept pulling over my friend's mom for speeding and then letting her go. | Apr 13 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | I was with them one morning and then the cop realizes it's her and tells her to have a nice day and asks "How's John doing?". | Apr 13 11:11 |
| techrights-news | Censorship os sceptics of empire β https://www.projectcensored.org/big-tech-censorship-with-special-guests-chris-hedges-and-kevin-gosztola/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 13 11:11 |
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| DaemonFC | I just don't know why anyone would shove Microsoft junk into Linux and take a paycheck for it. | Apr 13 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Like, if you're a really good programmer, then there's other ways to make a paycheck than doing this. | Apr 13 11:12 |
| mjg59_ | Techrights-sec: Yo uh could you actually justify your claims here | Apr 13 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, "It ain't honest, but it's much!" | Apr 13 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | We really need good non-x86 platforms to become widely available which won't implement things like this to begin with, to keep the firmware simple. | Apr 13 11:14 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: If what you're asking is "Why would someone ensure that Linux can boot on any machine people buy in the future regardless of what Microsoft do, and with a guarantee that the user can configure their system to run their own bootloader and kernel and OS" then I think the answer is pretty obvious | Apr 13 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | If you get the firmware down to where you can drown it in the bathtub, you have less attack surface anyway, and that's something you can take to the bank. | Apr 13 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Not this EFI shit. | Apr 13 11:15 |
| mjg59_ | You can implement enough EFI to run Linux in a sufficiently small amount of code that it's already implemented in u-boot | Apr 13 11:15 |
| techrights-news | "Pensions are a form of payment wherein an employee accepts lower wages while working in exchange for a fund that accrues savings for their retirement" β https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 13 11:16 |
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| matey | /me wants to hear theo say "a TACK SUR FACE" every morning | Apr 13 11:16 |
| mjg59_ | EDKII is a *lot* of code and you do not need to be that complicated to meet the spec | Apr 13 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think there should be anything else in a system firmware than the minimum to start the computer and hand over to the OS. | Apr 13 11:16 |
| activelow | question is, if Linux/GNU/FSF had sufficient influence to reject EFI entirely, if they wanted to, which is another question. | Apr 13 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing Microsoft, IBM, and Intel have ever proven is that the more code, the bigger the disaster, especially when they write the specs. | Apr 13 11:17 |
| matey | "influence" | Apr 13 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Ok so BIOS was too much firmware? | Apr 13 11:17 |
| matey | instagram: @fsf | Apr 13 11:17 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: They didn't | Apr 13 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know that the volume of it was too much, but it was not doing things right. Still, it wasn't some hulking monstrosity that managed to incorporate the worst parts of the BIOS in the guise of fixing the BIOS. | Apr 13 11:18 |
| activelow | besides, if options remain for developers/users who may want to decide for themselves; it's still possible to fully wipe efi from uboot and linux, for those systems which do not need it | Apr 13 11:18 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah Coreboot and Libreboot provide mechanisms for that | Apr 13 11:18 |
| mjg59_ | Phew we're saved | Apr 13 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | That's like General Motors saying "You know, the 3800 V6 is a good engine. It's served us well for years. We're going to design a new engine that gets 3 mpg more and it's all aluminum and cheap plastic now.". | Apr 13 11:19 |
| techrights-news | "really nice graphics library." β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/12/mindblowing-graphics-from-an-attiny85/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 13 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mindblowing Graphics From An ATtiny85 | Hackaday | Apr 13 11:19 | |
| matey | i think one of the biggest problems with mjg59s argument is that people dont want something and hes like | Apr 13 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | "THIS VEHICLE SAVES YOU $2,000 in fuel over the average new car." | Apr 13 11:19 |
| matey | NO, YOU DO | Apr 13 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Sure, and with only $5,000 more in repair bills! | Apr 13 11:19 |
| mjg59_ | Oh no I am not like "EVERYONE NEEDS SECURE BOOT" | Apr 13 11:20 |
| matey | missing the fact that the industry is foisting tech PEOPLE DONT WANT | Apr 13 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | They foist tech I don't want all over the place. | Apr 13 11:20 |
| activelow | i am not thinking about x86 anymore; and the options with ARM are limited too; at least the ARM sbc i got here doesn't require any EFI, although it is present by default with images shipped by armbian | Apr 13 11:20 |
| mjg59_ | I am "THE INDUSTRY IS DOING THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO PREVENT IT" | Apr 13 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: we'll need to replace the mirror computer | Apr 13 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | I am so happy I found a car in good shape that doesn't have all this junk on it. | Apr 13 11:20 |
| activelow | so, EFI is creeping into, even when it isn't required | Apr 13 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | $3000 for parts | Apr 13 11:20 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> They foist tech I don't want all over the place. <- as part of an ongoing trend lasting well over a decade | Apr 13 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "when the components arrrive, there's a shortage" | Apr 13 11:20 |
| mjg59_ | But I am also "SOME PEOPLE GENUINELY NEED THIS FEATURE, EVEN IF MOST PEOPLE DON'T" | Apr 13 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years later: "those components stopped being made 15 years ago! But we have good offer on new cars!" | Apr 13 11:21 |
| mjg59_ | And, uh, what was the alternative here? | Apr 13 11:21 |
| matey | AND WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO PREVENT IT <- so im imagining that youre being dismissive of efforts to remove it when you say "Yeah Coreboot and Libreboot provide mechanisms for that" "Phew we're saved" | Apr 13 11:21 |
| mjg59_ | There was no path to preventing systems shipping with Secure Boot enabled by default | Apr 13 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I was joking with a salesman yesterday at Chevy. I was mocking Ford. "Oh we don't have an air conditioner computer for your $60,000 car, so here's fifty bucks. Try again next year and we'll see if you can have an air conditioner then. It's all there, but it needs a computer now!". | Apr 13 11:21 |
| activelow | and it isn't trivial to wipe EFI, because a developer needs to know what he is doing, including the fact EFI/GPT partitioning scheme is troublesome if initrd is wiped too, which i did | Apr 13 11:21 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Everyone should have the right to control the security policy of their system. That includes replacing the firmware. But me saying "Everyone should have that right" doesn't make it magically happen. | Apr 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the troll is full of it | Apr 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so much for "social justice" | Apr 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | there was no path to women voting | Apr 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | there was no path to blacks emancipating themselves from their owners | Apr 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | there was no path to making ODF viable | Apr 13 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | defeatism troll | Apr 13 11:23 |
| matey | doesn't make it magically happe <- with the exception of playing a recorder in front of a server, im not aware of anything in free software working "via magic" | Apr 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | anywya, change topic | Apr 13 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | stop feeding trolls | Apr 13 11:23 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz: What was the alternative path? | Apr 13 11:23 |
| techrights-news | "CNC machines and 3D printers tend to have plenty of cabling which must be neatly managed while the machine moves." β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/12/skip-the-shipping-print-your-own-cable-chains/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 13 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Skip The Shipping, Print Your Own Cable Chains | Hackaday | Apr 13 11:23 | |
| mjg59_ | We ended up with a situation where people can run exactly as much free software as they could before | Apr 13 11:24 |
| matey | We ended up with a situation where people can run exactly as much free software as they could before <- you dont realise how that hurts your argument | Apr 13 11:24 |
| matey | boycott was an alternative path | Apr 13 11:24 |
| activelow | ^ | Apr 13 11:24 |
| techrights-news | There was no other path... β https://truthout.org/articles/oklahoma-just-passed-a-near-total-abortion-ban-more-restrictions-may-come-soon/ | Source: TruthOut | Apr 13 11:24 |
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| mjg59_ | We could have chosen a scenario where people would buy computers that couldn't run free software! | Apr 13 11:24 |
| matey | we dont know if the size of the boycott was enough to send a message to keep the feature optional | Apr 13 11:24 |
| matey | but its the only thing that could have sent that message | Apr 13 11:25 |
| mjg59_ | Spoiler it wasn't going to be enough to send that message | Apr 13 11:25 |
| SomeH4x0r | what is wrong with abortions, and perhaps killing newborns either? They have no value to anyone. | Apr 13 11:25 |
| matey | We could have chosen a scenario where people would buy computers that couldn't run free software! <- again, you seem oblivious to the connection between the goals of the movement and the outcome and how it refutes your circular argument that this shit was necessary | Apr 13 11:25 |
| techrights-news | There's just no other path. Must "support the artists"... β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/12/desperately-pathetic-copyright-industry-lobbyists-flat-out-lie-to-boost-support-for-the-dumb-smart-copyright-act/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 13 11:25 |
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| matey | granted in an outcome where it wasnt optional, your software would have helped | Apr 13 11:26 |
| matey | so as far as adoption goes, i blame red hat for using it more than i blame you for writing it | Apr 13 11:26 |
| mjg59_ | matey: The people who produce hardware literally do not give a shit about end-users being able to run Linux on them | Apr 13 11:26 |
| techrights-news | There's' no other path. They must die to learn... β https://www.projectcensored.org/highest-prison-death-rates-ever-recorded-are-signs-of-long-standing-structural-issues/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 13 11:26 |
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| DaemonFC | "Sure, let's all sell our souls to Satan because it's easier that way" | Apr 13 11:26 |
| SomeH4x0r | they can't talk or do anything making them any unique so that loss of them is bad for anyone | Apr 13 11:26 |
| SomeH4x0r | *is not | Apr 13 11:26 |
| matey | matey: The people who produce hardware literally do not give a shit about end-users being able to run Linux on them <- okay, sony doesnt exist | Apr 13 11:26 |
| matey | DaemonFC: sony doesnt exist! | Apr 13 11:27 |
| matey | *crab rave* | Apr 13 11:27 |
| mjg59_ | matey: I spent a *lot* of time talking to the hardware vendors, and they made it clear that blocking anything other than RHEL and SLES would have sufficiently close to $0 on their bottom line that it didn't matter | Apr 13 11:27 |
| matey | did you talk to sony? | Apr 13 11:27 |
| techrights-news | There's no other path. We need vigilantes to attack the poor β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/12/former-hertz-employee-says-company-is-outsourcing-its-collection-efforts-to-law-enforcement/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 13 11:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Hertz Employee Says Company Is Outsourcing Its Collection Efforts To Law Enforcement | Techdirt | Apr 13 11:27 | |
| mjg59_ | matey: Sony stopped making x86 systems in 2014 - they were already insignificant by 2012 | Apr 13 11:28 |
| matey | alright | Apr 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Let's see. Write NEW code to prevent OS installation. Piss off 3-4% of your users. No impact on sales. | Apr 13 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think with it being a shrinking market for PCs anyway, they'd be smarter than that. | Apr 13 11:28 |
| mjg59_ | matey: But yes, I did - I spent a lot of time getting Linux working on Sony systems in 2011. They let me know that they didn't care about Linux on their x86 systems and refused to give me docs for their firmware. | Apr 13 11:28 |
| techrights-news | "If you have a motor and youβd like to know where the shaft position is, you are likely to turn to an optical encoder scheme." β https://hackaday.com/2022/04/12/hall-effect-module-knows-where-your-motor-is/ | Source: Hackaday | Apr 13 11:29 |
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| DaemonFC | mjg59_, You'd better believe I'm going to take action against Lenovo again if they do it to something I buy. | Apr 13 11:30 |
| techrights-news | "When examining Twitter, 7amleh found 55 official violations" β https://www.projectcensored.org/social-media-censor-palestinian-activists/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 13 11:30 |
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| mjg59_ | matey: drivers/platform/x86/sony-laptop.c - I wrote the chunk of it that works on modern Sonys | Apr 13 11:30 |
| techrights-news | "Stancil reported on new research by the Groundwork Collaborative that suggested price gouging was rampant in the consolidated market of Americaβs food industry." β https://www.projectcensored.org/corporate-consolidation-causing-record-inflation/ | Source: Project Censored | Apr 13 11:30 |
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| DaemonFC | THey backed away from it after I filed an false and deceptive practices claim against them. | Apr 13 11:30 |
| matey | at any rate, if x86 tanks its because of this SORT of thing | Apr 13 11:30 |
| matey | firmware they feel a need to foist on us that we dont want | Apr 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | *a | Apr 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Garrett acts like you can't stop them. You can. | Apr 13 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | You can enforce the laws of your state against them. | Apr 13 11:31 |
| mjg59_ | matey: I'm fine with x86 tanking. I just didn't want to end up in a situation where someone who's bought a random computer before they learned about free software was unable to install free software on it. | Apr 13 11:31 |
| matey | cheers dfc | Apr 13 11:31 |
| mjg59_ | Making it possible for as many people as possible to install free software seems like a win? | Apr 13 11:32 |
| matey | lots of things seem like a win | Apr 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | So why are you pissed off that Lenovo settled after I filed a complaint of unfair practices? | Apr 13 11:32 |
| matey | your win was at odds with a strategy a lot of us wanted | Apr 13 11:32 |
| SomeH4x0r | fake free software invaded by corporations | Apr 13 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | You act like that's some sort of unfair way to get them to fix the computer, mjg59_ | Apr 13 11:32 |
| matey | and red hat was like "fuck hippies, lets patch it" | Apr 13 11:32 |
| SomeH4x0r | it is free, except one is unlikely to ever change it | Apr 13 11:32 |
| matey | free in license only | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: there's no red hat | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's gone | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's ICBM | Apr 13 11:33 |
| matey | formerly libre openly sleazy software | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you can see the policy change | Apr 13 11:33 |
| mjg59_ | Man I did *not* have Red Hat's backing on this | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM in charge | Apr 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, I informed them of the problem and they chose to wage a disinformation campaign against me instead. | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it didn't take them long to 'take out' Torvalds and others | Apr 13 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | gave them more leeway and control | Apr 13 11:33 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> matey: there's no red hat <- then what lurks in the bowels of ibms software strategy? | Apr 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | So I filed a claim with the state government and they opened an investigation. | Apr 13 11:33 |
| mjg59_ | My directory sent me a shit-o-gram while I was trying to fix boot issues with hardware vendors | Apr 13 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo offered to settle very quickly. | Apr 13 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | I quit the day I got back as a result | Apr 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Red Hat at least *tried* to understand and respect *Some* things | Apr 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | while amassing swpats for ICBM | Apr 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | for sale price | Apr 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Fedora had an actual community | Apr 13 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | I had no unique privileges here | Apr 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it goes banned | Apr 13 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | for saying what IBM's Miller said | Apr 13 11:34 |
| mjg59_ | If anyone wanted to object to what I was doing, they could have done | Apr 13 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Maybe it would be easier to claim unfair practices now, even. Without going into false advertising and malicious conduct and antitrust, you can also clain that lack of OS replacement violates right to repair. | Apr 13 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | With a new battery every 5 years, you can keep your laptop going forever, but Windows won't work on it for very long. | Apr 13 11:35 |
| SomeH4x0r | Windows 10 works on this decade-old laptop | Apr 13 11:35 |
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| DaemonFC | It bloats up and Microsoft quietly maroons old hardware on some unsupported version. | Apr 13 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | Then you can't even get security updates. | Apr 13 11:36 |
| mjg59_ | Phew good thing we ensured you don't have to run Windows | Apr 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Arguing that being stuck on Windows and unsupported is "securing" the computer. | Apr 13 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 13 11:36 |
| matey | the fsfs policy on secure boot was "dont negotiate with terrorists" | Apr 13 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | I literally just said the opposite? | Apr 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | You were saying there were legitimate reasons to lock the storage controller in an undocumented mode at the time. | Apr 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Remember that? | Apr 13 11:37 |
| matey | and breaking that policy can be argued to have the same problems as doing so | Apr 13 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | I was saying there were reasons that were not fundamentally anti-competition to do so | Apr 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Claiming it had something to do with power management. It didn't. Power management is an entirely different issue. | Apr 13 11:37 |
| mjg59_ | It's like saying that someone who puts an nvidia GPU in a laptop is preventing it from running Linux | Apr 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | You need to be able to install the OS first. | Apr 13 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then you worry about perfect power management later on. | Apr 13 11:38 |
| matey | <mjg59_> I was saying there were reasons that were not fundamentally anti-competition to do so <- maybe you made too much of those reasons in theory, and not enough of reasons in practice | Apr 13 11:38 |
| matey | It's like saying that someone who puts an nvidia GPU in a laptop is preventing it from running Linux <- no, putting nvidia on a laptop is just perverse | Apr 13 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Like, it happened so fast after I bought that laptop that power management for the storage controller landed, but with no way to kick it out of "RST" mode then you can't install other operating systems but Windows. | Apr 13 11:39 |
| matey | it prevents people from running decent drivers | Apr 13 11:39 |
| mjg59_ | matey: I have repeatedly spent time reverse engineering proprietary bullshit so that Linux works on hardware where the vendor doesn't want to support that I promise I understand what's happening here | Apr 13 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | So had I not acted, you still wouldn't be able to install another OS. | Apr 13 11:39 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Based on pressure from me, Intel ended up documenting it | Apr 13 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | You have to be able to install it or it doesn't even matter what Linux does or does not do with power management. | Apr 13 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | And that storage mode adds nothing of value. | Apr 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | It works fine in AHCI mode. | Apr 13 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | Lenovo doesn't give a shit about Linux on Ideapads | Apr 13 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | They're not trying to block it | Apr 13 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | It just doesn't matter to them | Apr 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | Well they did! | Apr 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | And they got what they deserved. | Apr 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | Having to go back and fix it. | Apr 13 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | And a stern warning from the government. | Apr 13 11:40 |
| mjg59_ | (Don Draper in elevator meme) I don't think about you at all | Apr 13 11:41 |
| matey | mjg59_ just so we are clear | Apr 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Having to back out their sabotage code. | Apr 13 11:41 |
| matey | you do get that when lenovo "doesnt give a shit about something" that some other company they do business with OFTEN DOES and will give them a reason to do it "their way" regardless, yes? | Apr 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | That's all that was. It was sabotage. | Apr 13 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo ACTIVELY sabotaged their computer so you couldn't even try to run "Linux". | Apr 13 11:41 |
| matey | and that two companies (one of whom doesnt give a shit about x) are more likely to sabotage the needs/wants of users than one? | Apr 13 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Doesn't matter why. They did sabotage it and they knew what would happen if they did, and they did it anyway. | Apr 13 11:42 |
| mjg59_ | matey: If you want to pitch it as "Lenovo chose firmware behaviour in line with Microsoft and Intel's recommendations", sure | Apr 13 11:42 |
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| mjg59_ | And if you then want to point out that Intel refused to document the behaviour of their chipset in RST mode, that's also realistic | Apr 13 11:42 |
| matey | matey: If you want to pitch it as <- why on earth wouldnt it? its not like "oems capitulating to microsoft pressure" is "just a theory" | Apr 13 11:42 |
| mjg59_ | Look the problem here wasn't Microsoft | Apr 13 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | The problem was Intel | Apr 13 11:43 |
| matey | lol wut | Apr 13 11:43 |
| matey | im pretty sure its both | Apr 13 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | Intel refused to tell people how their hardware worked | Apr 13 11:43 |
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| matey | and microsoft had an incentive to push this tech more than anyone | Apr 13 11:43 |
| mjg59_ | Intel tied their SATA controller's behaviour into the power management of the CPU | Apr 13 11:43 |
| matey | why talk about motives for 20-30 minutes and pretend microsoft (who has all the motive) isnt relevant here? unless its to proves roys accusations as valid? | Apr 13 11:44 |
| mjg59_ | matey: We're talking specifically about Intel storage controller behaviour here, not anything Microsoft had direct influence over | Apr 13 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Shit, I need to clean my desk. | Apr 13 11:44 |
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| matey | not anything Microsoft had direct influence over <- silly me, i live in a dream world where microsoft pushes oems around. | Apr 13 11:44 |
| matey | i guess ill get back to my ufo conspiracies. | Apr 13 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like the city dump and I'm missing a flash drive. I don't think it had anything important on it. | Apr 13 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | I make 4-5 copies of my important stuff and stash them everywhere. | Apr 13 11:45 |
| mjg59_ | If Microsoft only managed this for one model of one OEM then yeah it suggests they didn't have much power there | Apr 13 11:45 |
| mjg59_ | If Microsoft had been pushing for this behaviour then it would have been way more widespread | Apr 13 11:45 |
| matey | i think youre very detail orinted, which is fine | Apr 13 11:45 |
| matey | but sometimes when you focus on that at expense of the big picture, its a bit like reading lennart | Apr 13 11:45 |
| matey | who is a much bigger douchebag in my opinion | Apr 13 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> If Microsoft had been pushing for this behaviour then it would have been way more widespread | Apr 13 11:45 |
| matey | i mean, you actually try to explain | Apr 13 11:45 |
| mjg59_ | What we actually had was an Intel chipset that, in one mode, was guaranteed to have good power management if you had drivers for it | Apr 13 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | You have to start somewhere. | Apr 13 11:46 |
| matey | so credit where credit is due | Apr 13 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | Let Lenovo do it and see what the fallout is. | Apr 13 11:46 |
| matey | for us this is politics | Apr 13 11:46 |
| matey | you make this more about tech | Apr 13 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | They're unscrupulous. They'll do it. | Apr 13 11:46 |
| matey | thats not inherently a bad thing, but sometimes it doesnt work | Apr 13 11:46 |
| mjg59_ | And so for consumer hardware there's an incentive to lock down firmware configuration so someone can't change it in ways that kill their power consumption | Apr 13 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> And so for consumer hardware there's an incentive to lock down firmware configuration so someone can't change it in ways that kill their power consumption | Apr 13 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Why can't they just make Windows not be such a colossal piece of shit that it doesn't come with the driver and load it instead of the generic? | Apr 13 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Without resorting to crummy BIOS hacks. | Apr 13 11:47 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: That's just not a question Lenovo ask? | Apr 13 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe for a minute that they couldn't just fix Windows instead of clumsy hacks that fuck everything up. | Apr 13 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | But you're right. They tend to operate like that. | Apr 13 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | Whatever clumsy hack gets Windows to work right now. | Apr 13 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | Then they never fix it if they can possibly avoid doing so. | Apr 13 11:48 |
| mjg59_ | matey: We see things through a political lens because that's what we care about. That doesn't mean that everyone else is making decisions based on the same politics. | Apr 13 11:48 |
| matey | if we assume good faith (in oems) here, mjg makes plenty of sense | Apr 13 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | SuperFish Lenovo had good intentions, mjg59_ says. | Apr 13 11:49 |
| matey | why we should assume good faith is another matter (i hardly think we should) | Apr 13 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Lenovo actually does a *lot* of work to improve Linux support on Thinkpads | Apr 13 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they'll port SuperFish to Linux. | Apr 13 11:49 |
| matey | SuperFish Lenovo had good intentions <- national security is everyones job! | Apr 13 11:49 |
| mjg59_ | They do nothing on Ideapads because zero corporate customers pay them money to care about that | Apr 13 11:49 |
| matey | Maybe they'll port SuperFish to Linux. <- because we have no choice, theyll make it mandatory and if we dont port it we cant LEGALLY run linux! | Apr 13 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Why do you think I moved to a ThinkBook this time where they had detailed instructions and Ubuntu certification? | Apr 13 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use Ubuntu but if it runs Ubuntu it probably runs anything, honestly. | Apr 13 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | As long as the kernel and stuff are recent enough. | Apr 13 11:50 |
| mjg59_ | So framing it as "Lenovo is hostile to Linux" is obviously untrue - the company as a whole gives zero shits, they'll do whatever is profitable. It's not political. | Apr 13 11:50 |
| matey | <mjg59_> matey: Lenovo actually does <- lenovo put malware in their firmware to install shit that wouldnt be removed by reinstalling windows | Apr 13 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't do any preloads or certifications back then or if they did, I didn't see it. | Apr 13 11:51 |
| matey | lenovo is basically aids imo | Apr 13 11:51 |
| matey | i realise that you can turn a lenovo into a great machine for security. i mean the company, not the product. | Apr 13 11:51 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Oh yeah Lenovo are dicks! But that doesn't inherently tell us anything about how they feel about Linux | Apr 13 11:52 |
| matey | Oh yeah Lenovo are dicks! But that doesn't inherently tell us anything about how they feel about Linux <- you dont see, or wont admit, just how many of your arguments about obtuse compartmentalisation | Apr 13 11:52 |
| matey | are about ^ | Apr 13 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that if increased sales volume was the only measure, they'd at least get out of the way and quit stopping you from trying. | Apr 13 11:52 |
| matey | if theyre dicks, its not unreasonable to think maybe "how they feel about linux" is also dickish | Apr 13 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | Requires no effort and maybe people will buy your hardware who otherwise wouldn't, and will warn their friends about you. | Apr 13 11:53 |
| mjg59_ | If I draw a graph that's got a red bar and a green bar, that's bad for people who are red/green colour blind. That doesn't mean I deliberately chose to ignore them. | Apr 13 11:53 |
| matey | right, but when someone puts a red bar over a green bar, and someone says "thats a plus sign" you say NO! its JUST a red bar and a green bar! | Apr 13 11:54 |
| matey | even if it has 2 on one side, and 2 = 4 on the other | Apr 13 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have the shop look at the pulleys and see if there's anything wrong with those and if there isn't, just put a new Serpentine Belt on there and hopefully that shuts it up. | Apr 13 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | There's a little glazing on the belt on visual inspection. It's not the worst belt I've ever seen by far, but it is really old. | Apr 13 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's just rubber rot and now condensation has it squeal and chirp for a minute then when the condensation is gone, it goes away. | Apr 13 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | But that's your first sign the belt is old and needs to be replaced before it snaps later and strands you somewhere you really don't want to be at the worst possible time. | Apr 13 11:56 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Sometimes Linux not working on a system is purely because they didn't care, not because it was deliberate | Apr 13 11:56 |
| matey | theres always going to be someone who goes too far out of their way to make something shit kind-of-work | Apr 13 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | Now, mjg59_ would probably argue that something like this is too simple because most of the time it works properly and when it doesn't you just yank one belt off. | Apr 13 11:56 |
| matey | is purely because they didn't care, not because it was deliberate <- and heres the thing. i dont care which one it is. | Apr 13 11:57 |
| matey | fuck them either way. | Apr 13 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | And it's not like going through the entire car looking for the one that's squealing like it used to be, and there's five. | Apr 13 11:57 |
| matey | granted, fuck them more if its deliberate | Apr 13 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | In some ways, things can improve over the years. | Apr 13 11:57 |
| mjg59_ | matey: I draw a distinction between failure through ineptitude and failure through malice | Apr 13 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | But I also solidly blame Intel for shipping hardware without documenting how Linux should work with it | Apr 13 11:58 |
| mjg59_ | If Intel had their shit together, Lenovo would never have been able to fuck this up | Apr 13 11:58 |
| matey | But I also solidly blame Intel <- and we blame intel and microsoft, because microsoft was the one to benefit from this | Apr 13 11:59 |
| matey | and seeing that as a "happy accident" just feels fucking naive at this point. | Apr 13 11:59 |
| matey | maybe extensive firmware forensics will clear their name | Apr 13 11:59 |
| mjg59_ | This wasn't a firmware issue | Apr 13 11:59 |
| matey | oh for gods sake :/ | Apr 13 11:59 |
| techrights-news | "Weβve noted for years that the adtech sector is a convoluted, unregulated hellscape, where consumer data is bought and sold with nothing remotely close to competent oversight." β https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/12/john-oliver-tries-to-scare-dc-into-doing-something-about-the-privacy-dumpster-fire-that-is-adtech/ | Source: Techdirt | Apr 13 12:00 |
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| techrights-news | 5 open source tools for developing on the cloud β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163662 | Apr 13 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 open source tools for developing on the cloud | Tux Machines | Apr 13 12:00 | |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelCAD β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163663 | Apr 13 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelCAD | Tux Machines | Apr 13 12:00 | |
| matey | whenever something is this complicated, theres either corporations, lies, or lawyers to blame | Apr 13 12:00 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163664 | Apr 13 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 12:00 | |
| matey | too often all three. | Apr 13 12:00 |
| matey | fuck all three of them | Apr 13 12:01 |
| mjg59_ | Lenovo configured the hardware in a way that Intel supported and that worked with Windows, and there's no strong evidence that they were leaned on to do that | Apr 13 12:01 |
| matey | and there's no strong evidence that they were leaned on to do that <- other than its been microsofts m.o. for literally decades | Apr 13 12:01 |
| matey | and they benefit directly | Apr 13 12:01 |
| matey | but before we hang them for it i suppose we should be sure | Apr 13 12:02 |
| matey | or... | Apr 13 12:02 |
| matey | we could say that enough is enough is enouguh | Apr 13 12:02 |
| mjg59_ | Sure maybe it was a conspiracy but we don't actually have evidence that supports that | Apr 13 12:02 |
| matey | and be done with these fucks | Apr 13 12:02 |
| matey | i think you missed your calling and should have become a lawyer really | Apr 13 12:02 |
| mjg59_ | And we don't have a path to evidence because Ryan did some random legal bullshit that precluded discovery | Apr 13 12:03 |
| mjg59_ | So strong work if that was the avenue we were going to take it's gone now | Apr 13 12:03 |
| matey | i see double standards everywhere here | Apr 13 12:03 |
| matey | bias in favour of treating microsoft with a blank slate, rather than decades of experience | Apr 13 12:04 |
| mjg59_ | "We were told to make a machine that booted Windows and had functioning C8 CPU states" is something that would get you to this point | Apr 13 12:04 |
| matey | THIS TIME it wasnt their fault | Apr 13 12:04 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah this time I blame Intel | Apr 13 12:04 |
| mjg59_ | I promise I don't favour Microsoft over Intel | Apr 13 12:04 |
| matey | i believe that | Apr 13 12:04 |
| matey | but i also think this is obtuse | Apr 13 12:05 |
| mjg59_ | If Intel had documented their hardware this wouldn't have happened | Apr 13 12:05 |
| mjg59_ | Whatever Microsoft wanted or didn't want | Apr 13 12:05 |
| matey | they gave microsoft a huge present wrapped in a shiny bow | Apr 13 12:05 |
| matey | maybe they were trying to get them into bed again | Apr 13 12:05 |
| matey | "we got you a present!" | Apr 13 12:05 |
| activelow | 8 idle states, what a nonsense | Apr 13 12:05 |
| matey | microsoft: "oh, intel! you shouldnt have!" | Apr 13 12:06 |
| mjg59_ | This feature had actually been there for a couple of generations already | Apr 13 12:06 |
| mjg59_ | It just didn't have as strong an impact on power management until Sandy Bridge | Apr 13 12:06 |
| activelow | wiped the c-state handling from kernel, with both x86 and the arm sbc | Apr 13 12:06 |
| matey | sleeper cell features :) | Apr 13 12:06 |
| mjg59_ | Where the U series CPUs suddenly had CPU power management tied to SATA power management | Apr 13 12:06 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Well, you're going to have a bad time | Apr 13 12:07 |
| mjg59_ | Intel even tried to argue that operating those CPUs without proper OS config could violate warranty | Apr 13 12:08 |
| mjg59_ | Without telling anyone what the proper OS config was | Apr 13 12:08 |
| mjg59_ | And, uh, fuck that | Apr 13 12:09 |
| activelow | the old phenom2 box remains powered off anyway; and with the ARM SBCs the c-states aren't relevant, roughly 150MW difference at idle | Apr 13 12:09 |
| mjg59_ | If Intel had documented it, Linux would have worked ust fine | Apr 13 12:09 |
| activelow | besided, ARM PSCI is awful too | Apr 13 12:09 |
| mjg59_ | So it'd involve a conspiracy between Microsoft and Intel to choose something that Linux didn't support | Apr 13 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | So yeah ineptitude feels more realistic here | Apr 13 12:10 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway I'm going to bed | Apr 13 12:10 |
| activelow | gn | Apr 13 12:10 |
| matey | /me ignores the entire history of windows and intel creating beautiful antitrust together | Apr 13 12:11 |
| matey | NOW IT MAKES SENSE! | Apr 13 12:11 |
| activelow | ACPI, c-states, p-states, crap | Apr 13 12:12 |
| matey | he should have gone into astronomy instead of law | Apr 13 12:13 |
| activelow | he is not responsible for the crap IBM Wintel do | Apr 13 12:13 |
| matey | then maybe if he saw a region of space with no light whatsoever, instead of thinking "oh, there must be a spot where they universe doesnt exist" | Apr 13 12:13 |
| matey | he would do like the rest of us and realise there was a giant SUCKING FORCE with incredible mass there | Apr 13 12:14 |
| matey | "NO COLLUSION!"-- <strike>trump</strike> mjg | Apr 13 12:15 |
| matey | so what happened was intel and microsoft | Apr 13 12:16 |
| matey | "MICROSOFT WAS INNOCENT!" | Apr 13 12:16 |
| matey | ill never believe it | Apr 13 12:16 |
| matey | its just too far-fetched. but creationists show you can find evidence for fucking nearly anything | Apr 13 12:17 |
| matey | its up to whatever to weigh that against what else we know | Apr 13 12:17 |
| techrights-news | "Highlights links in the terminal, renders unicode and so on." https://terminalroot.com/darktile-a-gpu-rendered-terminal/ | Apr 13 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-terminalroot.com | Darktile - A GPU-rendered terminal | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| techrights-news | iWave Systems unveils AEC-grade Solderable System on Module for automotive applications β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163665 | Apr 13 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iWave Systems unveils AEC-grade Solderable System on Module for automotive applications | Tux Machines | Apr 13 12:18 | |
| matey | and we know a lot about microsoft | Apr 13 12:18 |
| matey | over a long, long period of time | Apr 13 12:18 |
| matey | of course if someone spends 30 years lying to you | Apr 13 12:19 |
| matey | going to the ends of the earth to defend them makes very little sense | Apr 13 12:19 |
| matey | maybe this time its true! okay, so dont spend 30 years destroying your credibility | Apr 13 12:20 |
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| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XQJ4v8QkEAw | Apr 13 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Frank's 2000" TV - Invidious | Apr 13 12:21 | |
| matey | secure boot is like a billion dollars showing up in microsofts bank account | Apr 13 12:22 |
| matey | and microsoft is like "we swear, we have no fucking idea how it got there" | Apr 13 12:22 |
| matey | maybe they dont. but its like the millionth time this has happened | Apr 13 12:22 |
| matey | and no one else gets this absurd level of trust applied to them | Apr 13 12:23 |
| matey | THIS TIME, we got fucked by microsoft, but at least this time they just tripped and their dick fell into us | Apr 13 12:23 |
| matey | intel pushed them | Apr 13 12:24 |
| matey | what were they supposed to do | Apr 13 12:24 |
| techrights-news | Don't use Git in Windows. Heck, do not use Windows for anything. https://lwn.net/Articles/891112/ | Apr 13 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Git security fixes released [LWN.net] | Apr 13 12:25 | |
| matey | and it was ONLY ON ONE PLATFORM! | Apr 13 12:26 |
| matey | or just x86 and arm (on arm it was mandatory) | Apr 13 12:26 |
| matey | just the one platform microsoft typically runs on. ONLY THAT platform | Apr 13 12:26 |
| matey | i think that pretty much settles it. | Apr 13 12:26 |
| matey | :P | Apr 13 12:26 |
| matey | but i think its extraordinary | Apr 13 12:28 |
| matey | looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, spews duck shit all over the place, surprise! its an octopus | Apr 13 12:30 |
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| matey | its a very rare breed of duck-billed octopus with webbed feet no one has seen until now | Apr 13 12:32 |
| matey | and its missing 6 of its legs. i guess we should feel bad for it | Apr 13 12:32 |
| matey | (octopus) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sTUmSMTB5Po | Apr 13 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Duck poop in public - Invidious | Apr 13 12:36 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163666 | Apr 13 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 13 12:37 | |
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| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KtK5XwdCeL4 | Apr 13 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Chaozhou Style Brewing of Duck Shit Fragrance Dancong Oolong - Invidious | Apr 13 12:39 | |
| matey | our marketing people want to call it "poolong" but china wont let us | Apr 13 12:40 |
| matey | tyler durden: we sell them their own fat as soap! | Apr 13 12:42 |
| matey | people making tea and coffee with animal shit: hold my beer | Apr 13 12:43 |
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| matey | daemonfc: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NwtncUWXxoQ | Apr 13 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Babylon 5 "Intersections In Real Time" - Invidious | Apr 13 12:51 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163667 | Apr 13 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 12:52 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fFDOeuLM3m0 | Apr 13 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How many Lights are there? - Invidious | Apr 13 12:53 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163668 | Apr 13 12:53 |
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| techrights-news | "The first of these is already the law; the second will be in the Queen's Speech in a few weeks. In parallel, there is controversial legislation before Parliament concerning building safety." gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2022-04-13_leasehold_reform.gmi | Apr 13 12:55 |
| techrights-news | Github shenanigans gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/12.1 Microsoft "Github decided several months ago to depcrecate support for `git:` URL (Uniform Resource Locator)s [5] and guess what I'm using?" | Apr 13 12:56 |
| matey | cardassia seems to be built in the image of stalinism in this scene (ive seen lots of ds9 but paid very little attention to cardassian politics) | Apr 13 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | for saying what IBM's Miller said[12:39] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- yewtu.be | Chaozhou Style Brewing of Duck Shit Fragrance Dancong Oolong - Invidious | Apr 13 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol wtf | Apr 13 12:58 |
| matey | 8lol wtf <- youll have to be more specific :) | Apr 13 12:59 |
| techrights-news | OK, I think now, at last, Techrights can do articles again. Lots of catching up needed to be done after 3 pretty big incidents. | Apr 13 13:00 |
| matey | thats a plotline of star trek tng directly ripped off from orwell | Apr 13 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | So what proportion of the cost if the shit? | Apr 13 13:00 |
| matey | oh | Apr 13 13:00 |
| matey | lol | Apr 13 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | some "livestock" shit is used to feed fish in pools | Apr 13 13:01 |
| matey | so iuve heard of cat shit coffee | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's your "food supply" | Apr 13 13:01 |
| matey | its incredibly expensive | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | food chain | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | human eat shit | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | via other animals' bodies | Apr 13 13:01 |
| matey | but duck shit tea i didnt hear about until today | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "what are you eating?" | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "chicken shit" | Apr 13 13:01 |
| matey | its certainly not vegan | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "but what's fish" | Apr 13 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "yes, but it was eating part of the chicken.. from the back end" | Apr 13 13:02 |
| matey | most people eat shit when they eat prawns | Apr 13 13:02 |
| matey | you can see the little line | Apr 13 13:02 |
| matey | i think its gross | Apr 13 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or cow intestines | Apr 13 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | AFTER washing it | Apr 13 13:02 |
| matey | my delicate sensibilities about not eating a (full) intestinal tract | Apr 13 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or brains | Apr 13 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone else will buy it | Apr 13 13:03 |
| matey | let them | Apr 13 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, in morocco is's a luxury item | Apr 13 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | "mmmmmm... braaaaainnzzz" | Apr 13 13:03 |
| matey | oh yeah | Apr 13 13:03 |
| matey | stuff thats fucking disgusting and so expensive | Apr 13 13:04 |
| matey | i really dont eat animals unless they have wings (or sometimes fins) | Apr 13 13:05 |
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| schestowitz-TR | gm, bnchs | Apr 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | afternoon rather | Apr 13 13:18 |
| matey | today should be a glorious day for bullshit | Apr 13 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | we made further fixes to the proxy | Apr 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it now renders code OK | Apr 13 13:19 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> afternoon rather <- if its afternoon we can have corned beef! | Apr 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz | https://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/ | Apr 13 13:19 |
| matey | /me doesnt like corned beef, but hasnt starved for 2 days in a very long time | Apr 13 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/ ) | Apr 13 13:19 | |
| matey | and then it was voluntary | Apr 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | prices of food have gone up a lot | Apr 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | moments ago I revisited an article about 11.9% inflation in NL | Apr 13 13:20 |
| matey | oatmeal is good stuff | Apr 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | in one year | Apr 13 13:20 |
| matey | isnt that hyperinflation? (i only assume) | Apr 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Apr 13 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | good question here | Apr 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | what IS hyperinflation | Apr 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't think there is s formal definition | Apr 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but ad hoc | Apr 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | how much inflation would pass muster? | Apr 13 13:21 |
| matey | hyperinflation: what happened to esr (first his ego, then him) | Apr 13 13:21 |
| matey | admittedly i dont normally do jokes about obesity | Apr 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | putting it bluntly | Apr 13 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was going well | Apr 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | went on movies, sold books | Apr 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | OSI was changing from within | Apr 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | then ejected him | Apr 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | by that point he was morbidly obese and unhealthy, very poor | Apr 13 13:22 |
| matey | i put a great deal of weight on that 1999 letter | Apr 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | running gofundme's for his medical bills | Apr 13 13:22 |
| matey | then again, so would esr (fat jokes are too easy) | Apr 13 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then his blog collapsed | Apr 13 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he could not raise money, either | Apr 13 13:23 |
| matey | under its own weight | Apr 13 13:23 |
| matey | but seriously | Apr 13 13:23 |
| matey | to me the most important part of osis history was perens resigning in 1999 (im aware that hes gone back at least once, likely more) | Apr 13 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | long story short, he has not been doing well this past year and mostly vanished | Apr 13 13:24 |
| matey | /me skips this one | Apr 13 13:24 |
| bnchs | "Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version." | Apr 13 13:24 |
| matey | again, the jokes are too easy | Apr 13 13:24 |
| bnchs | when your bot forces CA-signed certs | Apr 13 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | a few years ago esr was still involved in change management decisions | Apr 13 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | mercurial was it? | Apr 13 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | moving gcc away? | Apr 13 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: yes, ignore those | Apr 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's VERY good certy | Apr 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | took like 10 minutes to generate it | Apr 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | *cert | Apr 13 13:25 |
| bnchs | whats the SHA256 fingerprint | Apr 13 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd have to check at the back end | Apr 13 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see the public one | Apr 13 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | so can I | Apr 13 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless your ISP is MiTM /us/! | Apr 13 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | *MitM | Apr 13 13:26 |
| bnchs | lol they MiTM all the time | Apr 13 13:26 |
| matey | in soviet russia, they have middle in the man attacks | Apr 13 13:26 |
| bnchs | i get HTTP-only warnings for sites that have HTTPS | Apr 13 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | (a bunch of techs telling in French... zis!! zis jemini proxiiii... we need to intercept zat"| | Apr 13 13:27 |
| matey | gemini cricket | Apr 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | jemini | Apr 13 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | jemeenee | Apr 13 13:27 |
| matey | and i hope you like gemin too | Apr 13 13:28 |
| schestowitz | https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini | Apr 13 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fr.wikipedia.org | Gemini β WikipΓ©dia | Apr 13 13:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GΓ©mini_(film,_2002) | Apr 13 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fr.wikipedia.org | GΓ©mini (film, 2002) β WikipΓ©dia | Apr 13 13:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | is the talk 2pm boston time? | Apr 13 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms is in boston still, right? | Apr 13 13:29 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oqVy6eRXc7Q | Apr 13 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Bob Marley & The Wailers - Jamming (Official Music Video) - Invidious | Apr 13 13:29 | |
| *schestowitz-TR checks if we can re-steam/embed | Apr 13 13:29 | |
| matey | i mean the fsf is still in that area | Apr 13 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GΓ©mini_(film,_2002) | Apr 13 13:29 |
| matey | the talk is 2pm boston time | Apr 13 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/talks.html | Apr 13 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman | Apr 13 13:29 | |
| matey | eastern time zone is fucking huge | Apr 13 13:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: was he not escorted out of new england? | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | like john mcafee or something? | Apr 13 13:30 |
| matey | was he not escorted out of new england? <- i assume youre joking | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Title: The State of the Free Software Movement | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman will be speaking about the free software movement and your freedom. His speech will be nontechnical, admission is gratis, and the public is encouraged to attend online. | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Online at fsf.org/live | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | "Please note that all online participants and interactions are expected to abide by the safe space policy." | Apr 13 13:30 |
| schestowitz | They use the term "Safe space" | Apr 13 13:31 |
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| schestowitz | that's good | Apr 13 13:31 |
| matey | theyre using lieplanets safe space policy | Apr 13 13:31 |
| schestowitz | nobody wants explosives going on while he speaks | Apr 13 13:31 |
| schestowitz | they need to hire some doorman | Apr 13 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Please note that all online participants and interactions are expected to abide by the safe space policy. | Apr 13 13:31 |
| matey | maybe they should refer to the kind guidelines as the "kind of" guidelines | Apr 13 13:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | hey, here is a question | Apr 13 13:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS was disrupting talks at AMD events | Apr 13 13:32 |
| matey | the coc avoidance policy that doesnt avoid a coc | Apr 13 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | among others sitins and posters | Apr 13 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | what if you want to do that at libreplanet | Apr 13 13:32 |
| matey | sort of like their stances on github and secure boot | Apr 13 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | what would happen? | Apr 13 13:32 |
| matey | do what at lieplanet? | Apr 13 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | stage a protest | Apr 13 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that I suggest that | Apr 13 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | would the "safe space" policy cover it? | Apr 13 13:33 |
| matey | i would recommend protesting outside | Apr 13 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | like if FSF gave an award to something really bad? | Apr 13 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you wanted to object | Apr 13 13:33 |
| matey | "if" | Apr 13 13:33 |
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| matey | there was a time i considered protesting outside lieplanet | Apr 13 13:34 |
| matey | but protests should ideally be aimed at changing something | Apr 13 13:34 |
| matey | and i think its too late | Apr 13 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | macia wilbut protested against LF | Apr 13 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | in their event | Apr 13 13:34 |
| matey | shes awesome | Apr 13 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hotal canceled her booking/reservation/room iirc | Apr 13 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | *wilbur | Apr 13 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have photos | Apr 13 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | hang on.. | Apr 13 13:35 |
| matey | the hotal canceled her booking/reservation/room <- how does that even happen? | Apr 13 13:35 |
| matey | also what hotel, so i can avoid ever doing business with them again | Apr 13 13:35 |
| matey | (as much as possible) | Apr 13 13:36 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/linux-foundation-swag/ | Apr 13 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Swag, Corrected Edition | Techrights | Apr 13 13:37 | |
| matey | does it mention which hotel? | Apr 13 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe | Apr 13 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I forgot | Apr 13 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | some expensive one | Apr 13 13:38 |
| matey | /me checks to see if his text copy has that one | Apr 13 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | like radisson or hilton | Apr 13 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | to keep the "smelly hippies" out | Apr 13 13:38 |
| psydruid | why would rms disrupt talks at AMD events? | Apr 13 13:38 |
| matey | yep i already have a copy | Apr 13 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: wait.. | Apr 13 13:39 |
| matey | oh jono bacon | Apr 13 13:39 |
| psydruid | I'm not a fan of AMD, but I would rather replace them completely | Apr 13 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh | Apr 13 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | ati | Apr 13 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html | Apr 13 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Protest against ATI nearly led to the arrest of RMS β Free Software Foundation β Working together for free software | Apr 13 13:40 | |
| psydruid | if they go out of business, that's just collateral damage | Apr 13 13:40 |
| matey | t Starbucksβ¦no one knows who jono is lolβ¦maybeβ¦if you pay him 3kβ¦.he'd tweet about you lmaoβ¦. crashing lf eventβ¦.hotel cancelled my reservationβ¦but I booked again through third party. | Apr 13 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/cat/richard-stallman/page/16 | Apr 13 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-geekz.co.uk | richard stallman β Page 16 β Everybody loves Eric Raymond | Apr 13 13:40 | |
| matey | no mention of which hotel | Apr 13 13:41 |
| matey | pity | Apr 13 13:41 |
| matey | but also theres no clarification WHY they cancelled either | Apr 13 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe she did not use a "mac" | Apr 13 13:42 |
| matey | :) | Apr 13 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "unauthorised" software with not secure "boot" or any kind | Apr 13 13:43 |
| matey | today should be a glorious day for bullshit | Apr 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's against a "safe space policy | Apr 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | mac also needs to scan all your files | Apr 13 13:43 |
| matey | with stallman giving a talk moderated by an openly anti-stallman irc network | Apr 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case there's pedo pr0n in it | Apr 13 13:43 |
| matey | subject to lieplanet policies even when they didnt invite him to their own event | Apr 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF: WE are the KINGS of diversity | Apr 13 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | (LF cancels asian lady..) | Apr 13 13:43 |
| matey | lieplanet: youre not invited | Apr 13 13:43 |
| matey | rms: ill do my own talk | Apr 13 13:43 |
| matey | lieplanet: youll have to use our policy for your own talk | Apr 13 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we'll do it live!" | Apr 13 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "fsck it" | Apr 13 13:44 |
| matey | its not the fsf, its the lieplanet software foundation | Apr 13 13:44 |
| matey | the full name of the talk is | Apr 13 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | a month ago I jokes to myself about submitting a talk to libreplanet 2013 | Apr 13 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *2023 | Apr 13 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | about an intentionally difficult subject | Apr 13 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they didn't want to give lxo a slot | Apr 13 13:44 |
| matey | the safe state of free software as allowed by the lieplanet code of conduct which may eject rms from his own talk at any time | Apr 13 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | worrying he'd go off script and - gasp - mention rms | Apr 13 13:45 |
| matey | i hope rms isnt foolish enough to mention himself at this talk | Apr 13 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | my talk proposals for libreplanet 2023 | Apr 13 13:45 |
| matey | that wouldnt make it a safe space | Apr 13 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | "how code of conduct can backfire" | Apr 13 13:45 |
| matey | no safe space for free speech-- thats reversism and gnome is watching you | Apr 13 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | "how the media assassinations free software hackers" | Apr 13 13:45 |
| matey | i think the code of conduct frontfires | Apr 13 13:46 |
| matey | its like saying windows has a backdoor | Apr 13 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | "the threats of corporations to communities" | Apr 13 13:46 |
| matey | windows is a front door | Apr 13 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so on.. | Apr 13 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | windows is a doormat | Apr 13 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | for nsa | Apr 13 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a doroMATT | Apr 13 13:46 |
| matey | THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS! | Apr 13 13:46 |
| schestowitz | "Inflation is at an all-time high since the euro was launched in 1997. It is not a mere indicator anymore; it is here to hurt. The inflation index published by Eurostat for March 2022 is 7.5% for the eurozone and 11.9% for The Netherlands when compared with prices a year before on March 2021. And still growing. The trend stays worrying upwards, with no visible signs of a stabilisation, let alone a downward trend. In fact, the problem of inflation | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | is that once established in the economy it hardly finds a downward trend. We all maybe remember efforts of European economies in the late 80s to reduce inflation levels, during a period of both long-term inflation and economic stagnation, called stagflation." | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | stagflation | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | I like it | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | good think we just buy discounted | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | we'll breeze right through it | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | but travel is also expensive | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | of, wait | Apr 13 13:47 |
| schestowitz | we can avoid that | Apr 13 13:48 |
| schestowitz | energy? well, that's a tough one | Apr 13 13:48 |
| schestowitz | more layers | Apr 13 13:48 |
| schestowitz | should I submit my first-ever proposal to libreplanet? | Apr 13 13:48 |
| schestowitz | it would not be provocation btw | Apr 13 13:48 |
| schestowitz | it would be sincere | Apr 13 13:48 |
| schestowitz | they need to allow these sorts of topics | Apr 13 13:49 |
| schestowitz | taboo is not freedom | Apr 13 13:49 |
| schestowitz | esp. if the taboo is imposed by those looking to undermine the org | Apr 13 13:49 |
| activelow | "all-time high since the euro was launched"; which ignores the facts of two preceeding currency reforms | Apr 13 13:49 |
| techrights-news | "WindowsReport" now tells you that to use "LINUX" you should stay with Windows. This is what WSL is about. It is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux. And mind who promotes it! Anti-Linux sites... | Apr 13 13:50 |
| activelow | i arrived at ~8% annual inflation with compound interest(!) since 1990 | Apr 13 13:50 |
| matey | <schestowitz> should I submit my first-ever proposal to libreplanet? <- it would be participating in a farce | Apr 13 13:50 |
| matey | what did mjg call his contribution to/against secure boot? | Apr 13 13:51 |
| matey | did he name it? | Apr 13 13:51 |
| matey | does it have a name? | Apr 13 13:51 |
| techrights-news | SDxCentral is a paid-for LF mouthpiece. A lot of the WWW became Webspam. SDxCentral is part of this epidemic. | Apr 13 13:52 |
| matey | security.stackexchange.com/questions/24794/impact-of-mathew-garretts-secure-grub-bootloader-on-uefi-secure-boot 5 My eyebrows rose with Matthew Garrett announcing his Secure GRUB Bootloader less than three hours after no longer being a Red Hat employee. This work and its impact on the trust chain design of the UEFI secure boot now being implemented on Windows 8 configured hardware has had me puzzled for the last six months. | Apr 13 13:53 |
| techrights-news | Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670 | Apr 13 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux Machines | Apr 13 13:54 | |
| matey | <schestowitz> should I submit my first-ever proposal to libreplanet? <- yes, provided you call the proposal "secure free speech safe space policy" | Apr 13 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least ibm can no longer pick up the phone and threaten fsf | Apr 13 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "if you let this guy speak..." | Apr 13 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "he mention IBM's history.." | Apr 13 13:55 |
| matey | they still have lawyers | Apr 13 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "he hurts nazis' feelings..." | Apr 13 13:56 |
| matey | they can threaten defamation or some shit | Apr 13 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, they did sue to take down WeBuildFedora | Apr 13 13:56 |
| matey | if the fsf wants to cave, ibm can give them a reason | Apr 13 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sue per say | Apr 13 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it was formal legal action | Apr 13 13:56 |
| matey | injuction? | Apr 13 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 50 pages | Apr 13 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, something like that | Apr 13 13:56 |
| matey | a company named sue | Apr 13 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | SueCom(b to that) | Apr 13 13:57 |
| matey | ibm sues | Apr 13 13:57 |
| matey | s/e/ck/ | Apr 13 13:57 |
| matey | i wonder if it will be possible to download the talk while its streaming | Apr 13 13:58 |
| techrights-news | Webspam is killing the web. This "Linux" site started trotting out SEO spam, not it's pushing OUTRIGHT SCAMS! https://kifarunix.com/how-to-develop-an-nft-marketplace-a-comprehensive-guide/ | Apr 13 13:59 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: kifarunix.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kifarunix.com/how-to-develop-an-nft-marketplace-a-comprehensive-guide/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://kifarunix.com/how-to-develop-an-nft-marketplace-a-comprehensive-guide/ | Apr 13 13:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Develop an NFT Marketplace: A Comprehensive Guide - kifarunix.com | Apr 13 13:59 | |
| matey | you can do that with [infamous streaming website] | Apr 13 13:59 |
| matey | no need to mention which | Apr 13 13:59 |
| techrights-news | Legit sites won't survive and will not benefit from turning to SEO or webspam. They typically do so in the false hope of 'cashing in' on their way out, seeing they're already failing as legit sites. FOSS Force joined that wave... (sadly) | Apr 13 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:58] <matey> i wonder if it will be possible to download the talk while its streaming | Apr 13 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | some did this in libreplanet | Apr 13 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone in this channel (IRC) did last year | Apr 13 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we had copies before FSF published them | Apr 13 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the RMS return | Apr 13 14:01 |
| matey | ill give it a try | Apr 13 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this time I think I can 'borrow' the FSF's stream | Apr 13 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of how it is implemented | Apr 13 14:02 |
| matey | because its js based | Apr 13 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | zoobab used to rip a lot of talks | Apr 13 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | in real-time | Apr 13 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. patent stuff | Apr 13 14:02 |
| matey | it used to be more trivial | Apr 13 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the authorities would not publish a video afterwards | Apr 13 14:02 |
| matey | but there are some excellent tools (even if theyre not trivial to implement) | Apr 13 14:03 |
| matey | youd be surprised how sometimes its as simple as looking at the source and grabbing something that starts with http and ends with .mp4 | Apr 13 14:03 |
| techrights-news | Gulag 'owns' Apache Cassandra now? https://opensource.com/article/22/4/apache-cassandra-google-summer-code-program | Apr 13 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to join Apache Cassandra during Google Summer of Code | Opensource.com | Apr 13 14:03 | |
| matey | then you can just use wget | Apr 13 14:03 |
| matey | but usually its not that easy | Apr 13 14:04 |
| matey | its just funny when it is | Apr 13 14:04 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo install Twilio Authy in Linux based system β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163671 | Apr 13 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to install Twilio Authy in Linux based system | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:05 | |
| matey | its funny when theres gobs of javascript around all that | Apr 13 14:05 |
| matey | "we obfuscated everything except the url" | Apr 13 14:05 |
| matey | again, this is the exception | Apr 13 14:06 |
| matey | its often insanely complex | Apr 13 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | by intention | Apr 13 14:07 |
| matey | of course | Apr 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | a web of complexity | Apr 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | literally | Apr 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | to throw people off the hooks | Apr 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the data object | Apr 13 14:07 |
| matey | to force people to use the shit | Apr 13 14:07 |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163672 | Apr 13 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:07 | |
| matey | this is why i dont think "content" is condescending | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | eye are pirvacy tools | Apr 13 14:08 |
| matey | its always been used to refer to the gOOD part | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | we should remove eyes | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ban them | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for music mouths and ears | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and speakers | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | only "authorised" speakers | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | with garbled signals | Apr 13 14:08 |
| matey | s/rms// | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reverse-engineering criminalised | Apr 13 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "omg!! he passed a song unencrypted! Arrest hbim!" | Apr 13 14:09 |
| matey | rms made a valiant effort to get these companies to behave | Apr 13 14:10 |
| matey | unfortunately he still thinks thats possible | Apr 13 14:10 |
| techrights-news | Back 4 Blood adds experimental support for GNU/Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/back-4-blood-adds-experimental-support-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ δ· Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 13 14:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Back 4 Blood adds experimental support for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 14:10 | |
| matey | but he made the best effort in that direction that anyone could-- now everyone wants to capitulate | Apr 13 14:10 |
| matey | not only will it not work either-- it will work quite a lot less than what stallman attempted | Apr 13 14:11 |
| techrights-news | "Arx Fatalis is an Arkane Studios classic from 2002 that was officially open sourced. This update for Arx Libertatis should hopefully make it work even better on the Steam Deck, and Linux desktops using Mesa drivers." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/arx-fatalis-open-source-engine-arx-libertatis-gets-fixed-up-for-mesa-drivers/ | Apr 13 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arx Fatalis open source engine Arx Libertatis gets fixed up for Mesa drivers | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 14:11 | |
| matey | theyre suckers | Apr 13 14:11 |
| matey | or liars | Apr 13 14:11 |
| MinceR | 13 145148 < matey> does it have a name? | Apr 13 14:11 |
| MinceR | i believe Torvalds called it a "dick-sucking contest" :> | Apr 13 14:11 |
| matey | secure grub bootloader is the closest i came up with | Apr 13 14:11 |
| matey | torvalds was right about that much | Apr 13 14:12 |
| schestowitz | is there such a thing, literally? | Apr 13 14:12 |
| matey | security.stackexchange.com/questions/24794/impact-of-mathew-garretts-secure-grub-bootloader-on-uefi-secure-boot | Apr 13 14:12 |
| matey | it could be a description rather than the name | Apr 13 14:12 |
| matey | in other words, he might not actually call it that | Apr 13 14:12 |
| matey | i didnt do a deep dive on this | Apr 13 14:12 |
| schestowitz | it's a mirage | Apr 13 14:12 |
| schestowitz | considering more potent attack vectors | Apr 13 14:13 |
| schestowitz | but anyway | Apr 13 14:13 |
| matey | mostly it was for rhetorical purposes in response to your question if you should submit anything to lieplanet | Apr 13 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | now you can 'safely' boot a piece of mwlare like windows | Apr 13 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | "success" | Apr 13 14:13 |
| matey | i compared you submitting a proposal to lie planet to mjg submitting patches to grub | Apr 13 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | using an opaque chip with lots of defects | Apr 13 14:13 |
| matey | questioning the safe space policy isnt allowed by the safe space policy | Apr 13 14:17 |
| matey | its like a locked bootloader for free speech | Apr 13 14:17 |
| matey | if you question the policy someone might feel unsafe | Apr 13 14:18 |
| techrights-news | Bruce Schneier pretends this is not about Microsoft Windows. But it is (.exe file). He's compromised to me.... https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/russian-cyberattack-against-ukrainian-power-grid-prevented.html | Apr 13 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russian Cyberattack against Ukrainian Power Grid Prevented - Schneier on Security | Apr 13 14:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: questioning the ethics of "ethical" source | Apr 13 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the justice of "justice warriors" | Apr 13 14:19 |
| matey | its barely hyperbole to say this is the sort of thing that leads to stalinism | Apr 13 14:19 |
| matey | this is the sort of thing that led to stalinism. | Apr 13 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and asian woman cannot protest either | Apr 13 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hotel will "Cancel" her | Apr 13 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the name of "safe space" | Apr 13 14:19 |
| matey | i wish we had more info on that | Apr 13 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | D&I | Apr 13 14:19 |
| matey | right now it reeks of post hoc | Apr 13 14:19 |
| matey | i mean, its very PLAUSIBLE post hoc | Apr 13 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "when did you stop beating up the wife, James Zemlin?" | Apr 13 14:20 |
| matey | but not "im comfortable stating this as a fact" post hoc | Apr 13 14:20 |
| matey | theres just no data at all | Apr 13 14:20 |
| matey | at least from the article | Apr 13 14:20 |
| techrights-news | Games: Overworld, Splitgate, Back 4 Blood, and Arx Fatalis β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163673 | Apr 13 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Overworld, Splitgate, Back 4 Blood, and Arx Fatalis | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:20 | |
| matey | she went to a conference, the hotel cancelled her reservation | Apr 13 14:21 |
| matey | but hotels do that, as far as i know | Apr 13 14:22 |
| techrights-news | Changes at SUSE Update on next generation of SLE https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/N6TTE7ZBY7GFJ27XSDTXRF3MVLF6HW4W/ | Apr 13 14:22 |
| matey | id love to know at least: | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.opensuse.org | Update on next generation of SLE - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| matey | 1. do we know what they said about it | Apr 13 14:22 |
| matey | 2. does marcia believe there was a connection | Apr 13 14:22 |
| matey | even if 2 is satisfied, i can appreciate that | Apr 13 14:23 |
| techrights-news | Biometric ID in Tunisia: a threat to privacy and data protection - Access Now β https://www.accessnow.org/biometric-id-tunisia/ δ· Source: accessnow | Apr 13 14:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Biometric ID in Tunisia: a threat to privacy and data protection - Access Now | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| matey | i dont need a full congressional investigation to show me the hotel was being... | Apr 13 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'orphaned' developer | Apr 13 14:23 |
| matey | but how would the hotel even know? | Apr 13 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not tied to pantagon | Apr 13 14:24 |
| matey | did someone call and complain? | Apr 13 14:24 |
| techrights-news | Reporting of cyber incidents becomes law in the USA | Pen Test Partners β https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/reporting-of-cyber-incidents-becomes-law-in-the-usa/ δ· Source: pentestpartners | Apr 13 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | Reporting of cyber incidents becomes law in the USA | Pen Test Partners | Apr 13 14:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR | in an epic film | Apr 13 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | about a future | Apr 13 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | dystopian | Apr 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporations phone landlords | Apr 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | rendering their exposers and critics homeless | Apr 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the future might be 2020 | Apr 13 14:26 |
| matey | oh yeah, microsoft does shit like that | Apr 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and public gathering is "public hazard' | Apr 13 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | you get arrested for the crime of "being close" to other consenting adults | Apr 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft is not even a company | Apr 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's organised crime, and a cult.. | Apr 13 14:27 |
| matey | full agreement | Apr 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the US government supports this cult | Apr 13 14:27 |
| matey | yep | Apr 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gives it gov positions | Apr 13 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | even USPTO | Apr 13 14:27 |
| matey | yep | Apr 13 14:27 |
| matey | as kingoffrance would say its another ppp | Apr 13 14:28 |
| techrights-news | Civil society to EU: donβt threaten rights with last-minute βcrisis response mechanismβ in DSA - Access Now β https://www.accessnow.org/crisis-response-mechanism-dsa/ δ· Source: accessnow | Apr 13 14:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Civil society to EU: donβt threaten rights with last-minute βcrisis response mechanismβ in DSA - Access Now | Apr 13 14:28 | |
| matey | "you down with ppp?" "yeah you know me!" | Apr 13 14:28 |
| matey | "whos down with ppp?" "every 501c3!" | Apr 13 14:29 |
| techrights-news | Works only in theory; direct exchange/bartering works a lot better. https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-defi/ | Apr 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Is DeFi And How Does It Work - Make Tech Easier | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| matey | people talking about defunding npr | Apr 13 14:29 |
| matey | npr had cuts made by NIXON | Apr 13 14:30 |
| matey | they were supposed to be funded by gov in the public interest (like the beeb) | Apr 13 14:30 |
| matey | the gov made cuts, they sought funding from corporations instead (like the beeb) | Apr 13 14:30 |
| matey | today theyre a corporate mouthpiece funded by bill gates (like the beeb) | Apr 13 14:31 |
| techrights-news | One reason governments loathe sharing and software freedom or free software is that it's hard to tax and track exchange of "goods" (mutual sharing, reciprocity, immaterial). Of course "open source" is just an openwashing varnish for same old crap. | Apr 13 14:31 |
| matey | software in the private interest (debibm) | Apr 13 14:32 |
| matey | fsf: getting corporations to hijack us is a sort of victory | Apr 13 14:34 |
| matey | open source: THATS WHAT WEVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY FOR 20 YEARS! | Apr 13 14:34 |
| matey | the capitulation of red chief | Apr 13 14:35 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ransom_of_Red_Chief | Apr 13 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Ransom of Red Chief - Wikipedia | Apr 13 14:35 | |
| matey | is it a scam or just terrible philosophy? | Apr 13 14:38 |
| matey | thanks to postmodernism, it can be both! | Apr 13 14:39 |
| techrights-news | Installation and Review of Linux Mint 20.3 XFCE β https://www.tecmint.com/linux-mint-xfce-installation/ δ· Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux | Apr 13 14:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Installation and Review of Linux Mint 20.3 XFCE | Apr 13 14:39 | |
| techrights-news | PDF viewer list on Ubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish Linux β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163674 | Apr 13 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PDF viewer list on Ubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:40 | |
| techrights-news | Linux desktop is still the best desktop β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163675 | Apr 13 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux desktop is still the best desktop | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:40 | |
| matey | just to be clear im expecting the speech to sound good | Apr 13 14:40 |
| matey | it might take 12 hours to pick apart | Apr 13 14:41 |
| matey | or it might be trivial | Apr 13 14:41 |
| matey | but the one thing im not expecting is for it to be stallman | Apr 13 14:41 |
| matey | thats basically impossible at this point | Apr 13 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.eu/FOSSForce/status/1514237473622216704#m | Apr 13 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | FOSS Force (@FOSSForce): "Ruby Patches Important Bugs | Tux Machines https://buff.ly/3M1Acik" | nitter | Apr 13 14:45 | |
| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1514234494261374988#m | Apr 13 14:45 |
| matey | oh gods | Apr 13 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Definitely time to patch: Ruby Patches Important Bugs | Tux Machines https://buff.ly/3M1Acik" | nitter | Apr 13 14:45 | |
| matey | im afraid to look | Apr 13 14:45 |
| techrights-news | TurnKey GNU/Linux: Core & TKLDev v17.0 Stable Release & "preliminary" RPi4 builds β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163676 | Apr 13 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TurnKey GNU/Linux: Core & TKLDev v17.0 Stable Release & "preliminary" RPi4 builds | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:46 | |
| matey | ruby? | Apr 13 14:46 |
| matey | hehehehehe | Apr 13 14:48 |
| matey | https://www.zdnet.com/article/shimming-your-way-to-linux-on-windows-8-pcs/ However, Matthew Garrett, a well-known Linux developer who's been working on fixing the Secure Boot problem, has just released a working UEFI boot solution for Linux distributors. | Apr 13 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shimming your way to Linux on Windows 8 PCs | ZDNet | Apr 13 14:48 | |
| matey | i dont need to check who wrote it do i? | Apr 13 14:48 |
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| techrights-news | Free "service" for (mostly) a pyramid scheme of fake trust (from the empire that supports investigation of war crimes, except its own) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/12/sslping_to_ping_no_more/ | Apr 13 14:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | SSLPing to ping no more: Creator calls it quits β’ The Register | Apr 13 14:49 | |
| techrights-news | Mumble is an open-source VoIP application β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163677 | Apr 13 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mumble is an open-source VoIP application | Tux Machines | Apr 13 14:50 | |
| techrights-news | "HedgeDoc is a self-hosted, web-based collaborative markdown editor for teams and enterprise. It is an ideal solution for students, researchers, and writers." https://medevel.com/hedgedoc/ | Apr 13 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | HedgeDoc is an open-source collaborative markdown writing platform | Apr 13 14:52 | |
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| techrights-news | "Collaboration is a critical ingredient for successful IT organizations." And that's why we at ICBM Red Hat slander Richard Stallman https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/4-ways-create-culture-collaboration | Apr 13 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 ways to create a culture of collaboration | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 13 14:57 | |
| techrights-news | Yes, buzzwords and hype are indeed challenges and the people who push them need to be overcome. Push them. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/agile-3-pitfalls | Apr 13 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 3 Agile pitfalls and how to overcome them | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 13 14:58 | |
| techrights-news | kifarUNIX is dead to me. It rendered itself scams, spam, and SEO. Spamfarm. | Apr 13 14:59 |
| techrights-news | If you want to commit loads of crimes and still stay out of jail, then you want to apply for a job at Microsoft http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323 | Apr 13 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines | Apr 13 15:00 | |
| techrights-news | Congrats to Spamnil. New records approached. Soon nobody will watch his spammy videos except himself and the guest. | Apr 13 15:02 |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163678 | Apr 13 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 15:02 | |
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| techrights-news | Spamnil now has videos with literally more days than views, e.g. 13 days, 12 views. At least he kills his own instead of Linux.com but afaik LF pays him to do this... they do not want potent journalism, just openwashing spam. | Apr 13 15:04 |
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| techrights-news | Linux Foundation is named after the thing it is trying to hurt. | Apr 13 15:05 |
| techrights-news | LLVM 14.0.1 Released.... to Microsoft proprietary claws. What's the point handing over all your hard work to criminals? They do not even pay you for it... | Apr 13 15:07 |
| Techrights-sec | LF is dirt | Apr 13 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | but then that appears to the main goal of the principals involved | Apr 13 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Why else would vmware, M$ and the others join the board if not to | Apr 13 15:17 |
| Techrights-sec | subvert and dilute the GPL and Linux | Apr 13 15:17 |
| techrights-news | "Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. We release regularly. Here are the release notes from Cockpit 267 and cockpit-machines 266..." https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-267.html | Apr 13 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Cockpit 267 β Cockpit Project | Apr 13 15:18 | |
| techrights-news | "To control things through gesture movement, GY-61 is a great and cheap way module enabling to manage all three directions moments In this tutorial, weβll interface the GY-61 accelerometer with Arduino Uno including code, connection diagram, and component list." https://peppe8o.com/accelerometer-with-arduino-uno-adxl335-gy-61-wiring-and-code/ | Apr 13 15:18 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: peppe8o.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/accelerometer-with-arduino-uno-adxl335-gy-61-wiring-and-code/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://peppe8o.com/accelerometer-with-arduino-uno-adxl335-gy-61-wiring-and-code/ | Apr 13 15:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Accelerometer with Arduino Uno: ADXL335 (GY-61) wiring and code | Apr 13 15:18 | |
| techrights-news | "A major upgrade of Microdnf is the first step in the evolution of package management in Fedora. The new microdnf has ambitions to provide all major features of DNF without losing its minimal footprint." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf | Apr 13 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf - Fedora Project Wiki | Apr 13 15:19 | |
| techrights-news | Most of these are free software; that should be PREREQUISITE to trust and security https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-password-managers-built-teams/ | Apr 13 15:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 password managers built for teams | TechRepublic | Apr 13 15:21 | |
| techrights-news | Arduino releases secure bootloader based on MCUboot - CNX Software β https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/13/arduino-mcuboot-secure-bootloader/ δ· Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | Apr 13 15:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arduino releases secure bootloader based on MCUboot - CNX Software | Apr 13 15:21 | |
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| techrights-news | I Want Privacy for Illegal Things gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/illegal_things.gmi "cannot make use of end-to-end encryption (at least not when writing to my mum), but a privacy respecting protocol would undoubtedly solve the problem." | Apr 13 15:24 |
| techrights-news | A call for Gemini without TLS gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/16.1 | Apr 13 15:25 |
| schestowitz | "In a recent [1,2] *log entry, I lamented being unable to get Elpher to use client certificates---which are an integral component of the Gemini protocol---in establishing TLS connections using the native Emacs network functions." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2020-06-22-Elpher-client-certificates.txt | Apr 13 15:26 |
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| bnchs | hello schestowitz | Apr 13 15:37 |
| bnchs | i was out for a walk | Apr 13 15:38 |
| bnchs | found 3 DVDs containing(?) a burnt copy of Gears of War | Apr 13 15:38 |
| bnchs | "Games for Windows" | Apr 13 15:38 |
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| SomeH4x0r | someone threw them away? | Apr 13 15:40 |
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| bnchs | SomeH4x0r, idk | Apr 13 15:42 |
| bnchs | but i found it in the bushes | Apr 13 15:42 |
| bnchs | "Application :NERO BURNING ROM" | Apr 13 15:42 |
| bnchs | "Volume Name:GEARS_OF_WAR_PC1" | Apr 13 15:43 |
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| bnchs | "Gears of War, also known simply as Gears, is a media franchise centered on a series of video games created by Epic Games" | Apr 13 15:44 |
| bnchs | "and owned and published by Xbox Game Studios." | Apr 13 15:44 |
| bnchs | and a windows and xbox exclusive | Apr 13 15:44 |
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| SomeH4x0r | is it safe to insert unknown optical drives, unlike USB? | Apr 13 15:45 |
| bnchs | i mounted it read-only | Apr 13 15:45 |
| SomeH4x0r | I mean hardware damage, like USB killers | Apr 13 15:46 |
| bnchs | thunar froze trying to mount it | Apr 13 15:47 |
| bnchs | so it's porbably already corrupt | Apr 13 15:47 |
| SomeH4x0r | does dd work? | Apr 13 15:47 |
| SomeH4x0r | though I have a few CDs on which dd doesn't work, but I can copy the files | Apr 13 15:48 |
| SomeH4x0r | dd says I/O error and does nothing | Apr 13 15:48 |
| bnchs | finding CDs and DVDs on the ground is nothing out of the ordinary | Apr 13 15:50 |
| bnchs | i found a burnt PS2 game (which was partially corrupt) on some location | Apr 13 15:50 |
| techrights-news | Testing Figures Diminish to Lowest Since 2020 as Government Strategy Morphs Into COVID Denial (COVIDiots in Charge) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/13/covid-denial/ | Apr 13 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Β» Blog Archive Β» Testing Figures Diminish to Lowest Since 2020 as Government Strategy Morphs Into COVID Denial (COVIDiots in Charge) | Apr 13 15:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: Microsoft is a DVDCompany(R) | Apr 13 15:52 |
| bnchs | but i think this is a message | Apr 13 15:52 |
| bnchs | a windows/xbox exclusive game made by epic games | Apr 13 15:52 |
| MinceR | tencent teams up with MICROS~1 | Apr 13 15:56 |
| bnchs | i like finding random CDs | Apr 13 15:58 |
| psydruid | so someone asked on the ARM Discord server why they chose to use Discord rather than something more open like IRC or Matrix | Apr 13 16:01 |
| psydruid | and they were almost banned for voicing their discontent with that decision | Apr 13 16:02 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 13 16:02 |
| psydruid | so Solid-Run doesn't look like a friend of free software | Apr 13 16:02 |
| psydruid | more of a friend of oppression | Apr 13 16:03 |
| bnchs | lol | Apr 13 16:03 |
| bnchs | we're free software | Apr 13 16:03 |
| bnchs | but use nonn-free platforms | Apr 13 16:03 |
| psydruid | I don' t get why free software projects use proprietary centralised services either | Apr 13 16:04 |
| psydruid | yes, screw them | Apr 13 16:04 |
| techrights-news | Binary to display all GTK widgets β https://bkhome.org/news/202204/binary-to-display-all-gtk-widgets.html δ· Source: bkhome | Apr 13 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Binary to display all GTK widgets | Apr 13 16:04 | |
| techrights-news | "The Arch-based distro EndeavourOS has a new release with plenty of improvements and some new feature additions." https://news.itsfoss.com/linux-release-roundup-2022-15/ | Apr 13 16:09 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: itsfoss.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/linux-release-roundup-2022-15/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.itsfoss.com/linux-release-roundup-2022-15/ | Apr 13 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Linux Release Roundup #22.15: Raspberry Pi OS, EndeavourOS Apollo, and More Releases - It's FOSS News | Apr 13 16:09 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ββββββββββ β βββ ββββββββ ββββββββ βββββ β β avg(k/sec) 16.55 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 111.70β swarm size (avg): 322.51 β² | Apr 13 16:10 |
| techrights-news | OpenSSH SCP deprecation in RHEL 9: What you need to know β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163679 | Apr 13 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSSH SCP deprecation in RHEL 9: What you need to know | Tux Machines | Apr 13 16:10 | |
| techrights-news | Top 5 Best Arcade Games for Linux To Cherish the Nostalgia β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163680 | Apr 13 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Best Arcade Games for Linux To Cherish the Nostalgia | Tux Machines | Apr 13 16:11 | |
| MinceR | (fox) https://ircz.de/p/22032420 | Apr 13 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/deswdl4i5uo81.jpg created on 2022-03-24 03:15:53.426572 | Apr 13 16:11 | |
| techrights-news | LibreWolf vs Firefox: Comparing the Privacy Heroes of Open-Source Browsers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163681 | Apr 13 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreWolf vs Firefox: Comparing the Privacy Heroes of Open-Source Browsers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 16:11 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163682 | Apr 13 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 16:11 | |
| bnchs | psydruid, what is this Discord guild about | Apr 13 16:26 |
| psydruid | bnchs, it's ARM's "developer community" | Apr 13 16:27 |
| psydruid | it beats me why they chose Discord | Apr 13 16:27 |
| psydruid | but ARM being proprietary probably likes proprietary things | Apr 13 16:28 |
| psydruid | such as Windows and macOS | Apr 13 16:28 |
| bnchs | lol | Apr 13 16:29 |
| bnchs | if they end up almost banning a user | Apr 13 16:29 |
| bnchs | because they asked a question about why they used discord | Apr 13 16:30 |
| bnchs | it almost seems like they're bribed | Apr 13 16:30 |
| bnchs | or brainwashed | Apr 13 16:30 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 13 16:30 |
| psydruid | or both | Apr 13 16:30 |
| psydruid | bribed & brainwashed | Apr 13 16:30 |
| bnchs | lol | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360054793351-Discord-for-Windows-10-ARM64 | Apr 13 16:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360054793351-Discord-for-Windows-10-ARM64 ) | Apr 13 16:31 | |
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| bnchs | this is what proprietary software gets you | Apr 13 16:31 |
| psydruid | https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/microsoft-joins-linaro-arm-and-qualcomm-technologies-to-advance-windows-on-arm/ | Apr 13 16:31 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: hpcwire.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/microsoft-joins-linaro-arm-and-qualcomm-technologies-to-advance-windows-on-arm/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/microsoft-joins-linaro-arm-and-qualcomm-technologies-to-advance-windows-on-arm/ | Apr 13 16:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | Microsoft Joins Linaro, Arm and Qualcomm Technologies to Advance Windows on Arm | Apr 13 16:31 | |
| psydruid | there you have it | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | begging a company to make a ARM64 port | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | for windows 10 | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | windows 10 on ARM64 | Apr 13 16:31 |
| psydruid | joined Linaro to Advance Windows on ARM | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | " | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | As part of the Electron 7.0.0 update, ARM64 support was added to Electron. Seeing as Windows 10 ARM64 computers have started to roll out, it may be useful to create an ARM64 build of Discord for it. In the mean time, the normal client does work, since Windows 10 ARM can run x86 32bit apps like Discord's normal client. Unfortunately, the performance is really slow as it has to run through a translation layer. | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | " | Apr 13 16:31 |
| psydruid | lol | Apr 13 16:31 |
| bnchs | "We need a native Windows ARM64 client immediately!" | Apr 13 16:32 |
| bnchs | imagine begging like this | Apr 13 16:32 |
| psydruid | it's looking pathetic | Apr 13 16:33 |
| bnchs | proprietary software leaves you begging for the devs | Apr 13 16:34 |
| techrights-news | Has Qt shifted from "Open Source" to crApp bloat? https://www.qt.io/blog/make-your-app-live-longer | Apr 13 16:35 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: qt.io | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/make-your-app-live-longer https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/make-your-app-live-longer | Apr 13 16:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Make Your App Live Longer | Apr 13 16:35 | |
| techrights-news | Qt doing emojis now :/ https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-python-details-on-the-new-6.3-release | Apr 13 16:36 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: qt.io | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-python-details-on-the-new-6.3-release https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-python-details-on-the-new-6.3-release | Apr 13 16:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt for Python details on the new 6.3 release | Apr 13 16:36 | |
| SomeH4x0r | it did years ago | Apr 13 16:36 |
| techrights-news | But do these chips do smart and clown and "hey hi"? https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/13/broadcom-unveils-wifi-7-chips-for-access-points-and-clients/ | Apr 13 16:37 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/13/broadcom-unveils-wifi-7-chips-for-access-points-and-clients/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/13/broadcom-unveils-wifi-7-chips-for-access-points-and-clients/ | Apr 13 16:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Broadcom unveils WiFi 7 chips for access points and clients - CNX Software | Apr 13 16:37 | |
| bnchs | emojis have turned into shit | Apr 13 16:37 |
| bnchs | they were supposed to be raceless sexless, generic smilies | Apr 13 16:37 |
| bnchs | but then it turned into a circus of skin colors and religion and races | Apr 13 16:38 |
| bnchs | and flags | Apr 13 16:38 |
| techrights-news | Usenet Newsreader Reviews https://cloudyday.tech.blog/2022/04/13/usenet-newsreader-reviews/ | Apr 13 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloudyday.tech.blog | Usenet Newsreader Reviews β blog.theuse.net | Apr 13 16:38 | |
| MinceR | it also turned unicode into a churning monstrosity that gets updated every year | Apr 13 16:39 |
| MinceR | and they're wasting code points on emoji, while they screwed CJKV characters with han unification | Apr 13 16:39 |
| bnchs | emojis have ruined unicode | Apr 13 16:39 |
| bnchs | they should scrap all the emojis | Apr 13 16:40 |
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| bnchs | and start from the beginning | Apr 13 16:40 |
| MinceR | unicode was already ruined | Apr 13 16:40 |
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| techrights-news | from HTML5 & Javascript blob technique to ransomeware β JS is evil (when it is allowed to do more than gui animations) https://dwaves.de/2022/04/13/from-html5-javascript-blob-technique-to-ransomeware-js-is-evil-when-it-is-allowed-to-do-more-than-gui-animations/ | Apr 13 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Β» from HTML5 & Javascript blob technique to ransomeware β JS is evil (when it is allowed to do more than gui animations) | dwaves.de | Apr 13 16:42 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22040425 | Apr 13 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/xrrub0gpp5r81.jpg created on 2022-04-04 07:39:21.381567 | Apr 13 16:42 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: First thing I noticed is the MasterLock. The second thing I noticed is that it protects nothing. | Apr 13 16:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 13 16:43 |
| techrights-news | Software: HedgeDoc, Usenet Newsreaders, and Cockpit β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163683 | Apr 13 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: HedgeDoc, Usenet Newsreaders, and Cockpit | Tux Machines | Apr 13 16:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: sort of like "secure" boot | Apr 13 16:44 |
| MinceR | "secure" boot is much worse | Apr 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it protects companies from the user/buyer/'owner' | Apr 13 16:45 |
| MinceR | it "protects" MICROS~1's market share | Apr 13 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's no "notch decoder" for "Secure"Boot. | Apr 13 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 13 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | * "notched decoder" | Apr 13 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | de coder | Apr 13 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like LP? | Apr 13 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yes | Apr 13 16:47 |
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| techrights-news | TensorFlow Library Performance β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163684 | Apr 13 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TensorFlow Library Performance | Tux Machines | Apr 13 16:56 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β βββββββββββββββ ββ β ββββ ββ ββ ββ ββ βββ avg(k/sec) 31.10 β IPFS upstream: βββββββββββββββββββββββββ ββββββββ avg(k/sec) 102.76β swarm size (avg): 296.60 β² | Apr 13 16:59 |
| bnchs | fuck nvidia CUDA | Apr 13 17:13 |
| bnchs | imagine nvidia inventing proprietary crap like microsoft | Apr 13 17:13 |
| bnchs | instead of OpenCL, it's CUDA | Apr 13 17:13 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22040352 | Apr 13 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/kji9vfe0pbr81.jpg created on 2022-04-03 21:47:01.826847 | Apr 13 17:17 | |
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| matey | psydruid β I don' t get why free software projects use proprietary centralised services either | Apr 13 17:38 |
| matey | i know why | Apr 13 17:38 |
| matey | its because theyre bullshit | Apr 13 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to do real-time video respons to RMS | Apr 13 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then upload it | Apr 13 17:38 |
| matey | we care about your freedom | Apr 13 17:38 |
| matey | unless you want to participate in our project | Apr 13 17:39 |
| matey | then you can find us on shithub | Apr 13 17:39 |
| techrights-news | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk by RubΓ©n RodrΓguez PΓ©rez, Founder of Trisquel GNU/Linux | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/trisquel-founder-on-lazy-eye/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/13/trisquel-founder-on-lazy-eye/ | Apr 13 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk by RubΓ©n RodrΓguez PΓ©rez, Founder of Trisquel GNU/Linux | Techrights | Apr 13 17:40 | |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> I'm going to do real-time video respons to RMS <- be sure to get that recoreded and uploaded before it violates the license theyll put on it :) | Apr 13 17:41 |
| matey | /me is being facetious of course, but only to mock their choice of license, which is utterly bullshit | Apr 13 17:42 |
| matey | rms: fair use | Apr 13 17:42 |
| matey | me: fucking genius, so youre letting it rest on the very thing that was inadequate to the point of uselessness, which cc saved us from-- BUT YOURE USING CC to say "fuck you" to that | Apr 13 17:43 |
| matey | nice! | Apr 13 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.eu/novayagazeta_en/status/1514240905234067464 | Apr 13 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@novayagazeta_en): "Women gathered in front of the Russian embassy in Tallinn to draw attention to the sexual violence of Russian soldiers against Ukrainian women and children. Photo: petri kajander / Twitter" | nitter | Apr 13 17:43 | |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.eu/novayagazeta_en/status/1514208410472005632 | Apr 13 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@novayagazeta_en): "St. Petersburg artist Sasha Skochilenko has been sent to a pre-trial detention facility. Earlier, a local court arrested the activist until May 31 under Russiaβs new βfake newsβ law." | nitter | Apr 13 17:44 | |
| matey | thats ok, fsf has lost many years worth of sales over this | Apr 13 17:44 |
| matey | and donations | Apr 13 17:44 |
| bnchs | electron is a security nightmare | Apr 13 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.eu/novayagazeta_en/status/1514275711799934983 | Apr 13 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@novayagazeta_en): "A Russian military officer gets a βprone to treason, lies and deceitβ stamp in his service record card for refusing to join the war in Ukraine" | nitter | Apr 13 17:45 | |
| bnchs | it's much easier than ever | Apr 13 17:45 |
| bnchs | to inject javascript | Apr 13 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | They covered a lot, nice. | Apr 13 17:45 |
| bnchs | and phish logins and everything | Apr 13 17:45 |
| matey | that makes auditing easy | Apr 13 17:46 |
| matey | "you failed" | Apr 13 17:46 |
| matey | "why?" | Apr 13 17:46 |
| matey | "because you use electron, you stupid shit" | Apr 13 17:46 |
| matey | "but our devops people" | Apr 13 17:46 |
| matey | /me batman smacking someone meme | Apr 13 17:46 |
| activelow | "prone to" .. being lied to and deceived; seems a badge of honor | Apr 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | https://live.fsf.org/rms-livestream-2022.webm | Apr 13 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://live.fsf.org/rms-livestream-2022.webm ) | Apr 13 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | it's dead at the momenmt | Apr 13 17:47 |
| matey | sweet | Apr 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | but it is a placeholder URL that they have just added | Apr 13 17:47 |
| matey | its actually a 404 for me | Apr 13 17:49 |
| matey | <schestowitz> it's dead at the momenmt <- i imagined a live stream of nothing (dead air) but its a BIT early | Apr 13 17:51 |
| matey | /me listens to whiter shade of pale sung to the tune of the muppet show theme | Apr 13 17:53 |
| techrights-news | Richard Stallmanβs Talk (Livestream) | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | Apr 13 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallmanβs Talk (Livestream) | Techrights | Apr 13 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022.ogg | Apr 13 18:01 |
| schestowitz | audio stream | Apr 13 18:01 |
| schestowitz | works now | Apr 13 18:01 |
| schestowitz | but.. have a listen | Apr 13 18:01 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/Q9xIEdO | Apr 13 18:01 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: imgur.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/Q9xIEdO https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://imgur.com/t/cats/Q9xIEdO | Apr 13 18:01 | |
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| techrights-news | Bezos Post: from Russophobia to Chinap[/o]hobia https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/tiktok-russia-censorship-propaganda-tracking-exposed/ | Apr 13 18:04 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/tiktok-russia-censorship-propaganda-tracking-exposed/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/tiktok-russia-censorship-propaganda-tracking-exposed/ | Apr 13 18:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | now the video link is live | Apr 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and working | Apr 13 18:06 |
| matey | still 4040 here | Apr 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | Apr 13 18:08 |
| schestowitz | cjchanged url in http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | Apr 13 18:08 |
| schestowitz | nowq it plays | Apr 13 18:08 |
| matey | libreplanet! | Apr 13 18:10 |
| Techrights-sec | https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022-lowres.webm | Apr 13 18:10 |
| matey | https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022-lowres.webm | Apr 13 18:10 |
| matey | wtf does this have to do with libreplanet | Apr 13 18:10 |
| matey | retcon! | Apr 13 18:10 |
| matey | this is orwellian | Apr 13 18:10 |
| matey | off to a nice start, the url itself is a lie | Apr 13 18:11 |
| matey | whos in charge of this | Apr 13 18:11 |
| matey | theyre bullshit | Apr 13 18:11 |
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| matey | it better be some default, like in a script or something | Apr 13 18:13 |
| matey | hey bnchs__ guess what! | Apr 13 18:13 |
| matey | there are TWO libreplanets this year | Apr 13 18:13 |
| matey | one for normie cunts | Apr 13 18:13 |
| bnchs__ | what | Apr 13 18:13 |
| matey | and one for rms only | Apr 13 18:13 |
| bnchs__ | wait wtf? | Apr 13 18:13 |
| matey | <Techrights-sec> https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022-lowres.webm | Apr 13 18:13 |
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| bnchs__ | so basically | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | they were going to do a blacks only libreplanet but then they thought no, that would be incredibly racist | Apr 13 18:14 |
| bnchs__ | rms is isolated? | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | i mean denies only | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | well i dont theyre calling this /rms-libreplanet-2022 | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | actually the name of the talk is still the state of free software | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | only the url says libreplanet-2022 | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | for some stupid reason | Apr 13 18:14 |
| matey | but kudos to rms for making his own libreplanet | Apr 13 18:15 |
| matey | with blackjack and hookers | Apr 13 18:15 |
| bnchs__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPBJVy1G5o | Apr 13 18:16 |
| bnchs__ | god damn it bot | Apr 13 18:16 |
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| bnchs__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPBJVy1G5o | Apr 13 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=szPBJVy1G5o | Apr 13 18:16 | |
| psydruid | this thing is only going live in 45 minutes | Apr 13 18:16 |
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| matey | yes until then its chiptunes | Apr 13 18:16 |
| matey | but this lets me check the filesize | Apr 13 18:16 |
| bnchs__ | this is your brain on tim swine-e | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I can show the IRC chat in the video I take | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the question is, whose? | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | whose IRC | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | libera:fsf | Apr 13 18:17 |
| matey | seems to be about 1mb per minute | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or this? | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if this channel is active | Apr 13 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and people watch and respond | Apr 13 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | then we'll have a video or RMS talking | Apr 13 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you responding to him in IRC | Apr 13 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the video | Apr 13 18:18 |
| matey | you know it violates the license | Apr 13 18:18 |
| matey | :D | Apr 13 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | ND? | Apr 13 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure | Apr 13 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | because we don't change what he says | Apr 13 18:18 |
| matey | you literally cant even sync to the audio | Apr 13 18:18 |
| matey | read the license | Apr 13 18:18 |
| matey | you cant even sync video to the (unchanged) audio | Apr 13 18:19 |
| matey | hilariously. nd is a fucking farce. | Apr 13 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds... odd | Apr 13 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know ND is weird | Apr 13 18:19 |
| matey | its bizarre | Apr 13 18:19 |
| matey | well, it was a bad choice | Apr 13 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, what if I repond to something | Apr 13 18:19 |
| matey | and its non-free | Apr 13 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wish to present the context? | Apr 13 18:19 |
| matey | but rms is ok with that for "works of opinion" | Apr 13 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, that's against fair use | Apr 13 18:19 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> like, what if I repond to something <schestowitz-TR> and wish to present the context <- then you have two choices | Apr 13 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're not bashing him | Apr 13 18:20 |
| matey | 1. use a free license which makes this easy | Apr 13 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I doubt he would mind tbh | Apr 13 18:20 |
| matey | 2. rely on fair use which wont likely cover the entire work | Apr 13 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I put the video on this channel | Apr 13 18:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | just keep language OK | Apr 13 18:20 |
| matey | I doubt he would mind tbh <- oh yeah, then theres "permission" too | Apr 13 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it doesn't end up like gulagtube "livestream" | Apr 13 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I won't record everything | Apr 13 18:21 |
| matey | but if you have to get permission then you see what a farce of a license it is | Apr 13 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe just the first 30 or 60 mins | Apr 13 18:21 |
| matey | the whole point of cc was to move past permission culture | Apr 13 18:21 |
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| matey | and the point of using nd was an experiment | Apr 13 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it means all we can do is slap the whole work on webspace | Apr 13 18:22 |
| matey | yep | Apr 13 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that too requires content, afaik | Apr 13 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | even with attrib. | Apr 13 18:22 |
| matey | as long as it doesnt sync :) | Apr 13 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I suggest a don' do weird things on stage" licence | Apr 13 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | then a resort to nd would not be needed | Apr 13 18:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I am going to adjust the fonts in Konversation | Apr 13 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make it more visible | Apr 13 18:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | test | Apr 13 18:25 |
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| schestowitz-TR | OK, done a test | Apr 13 18:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | so I will start recording soon, with IRC showing after some opening words | Apr 13 18:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | refrain from "bad language" | Apr 13 18:29 |
| bnchs__ | i hope you don't get trolls | Apr 13 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | strong opinions OK | Apr 13 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | f word etc not helpful | Apr 13 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it would make techrights seem rude and crude | Apr 13 18:30 |
| bnchs__ | but what about the trolls | Apr 13 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: they don't know we record | Apr 13 18:30 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/oeis | Apr 13 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - OEIS | Apr 13 18:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Recording in 13 mins. | Apr 13 18:38 |
| techrights-news | "TikTok is blocking people in Russia from seeing any posts from outside the country, including from Ukraine." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Apr 13 18:39 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: accessnow.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Apr 13 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now | Apr 13 18:39 | |
| techrights-news | Stop Pegasus: Costa Rica is the first country to call for a moratorium on spyware technology https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/ | Apr 13 18:39 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: accessnow.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/ | Apr 13 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Costa Rica: first country to call for a moratorium on spyware technology | Apr 13 18:39 | |
| techrights-news | Privacy and Security Analysis of the IATA Travel Pass Explained - The Citizen Lab β https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/privacy-and-security-analysis-of-the-iata-travel-pass-explained/ δ· Source: citizenlab | Apr 13 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | Privacy and Security Analysis of the IATA Travel Pass Explained - The Citizen Lab | Apr 13 18:40 | |
| techrights-news | Privacy and Security Analysis of the IATA Travel Pass Android App - The Citizen Lab β https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/privacy-and-security-analysis-of-the-iata-travel-pass-android-app/ δ· Source: citizenlab | Apr 13 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | Privacy and Security Analysis of the IATA Travel Pass Android App - The Citizen Lab | Apr 13 18:41 | |
| techrights-news | Free As In Internet: Free-Net History: The Rise and Fall of Community Dial-Up β https://tedium.co/2022/04/13/internet-free-net-history/ δ· Source: tedium | Apr 13 18:41 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: tedium.co | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/13/internet-free-net-history/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/13/internet-free-net-history/ | Apr 13 18:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Free-Net History: The Rise and Fall of Community Dial-Up | Apr 13 18:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Security updates have been issued by Arch Linux (gzip, python-django, and xz), Debian (chromium, subversion, and zabbix), Red Hat (expat, kernel, and thunderbird), SUSE (go1.16, go1.17, kernel, libexif, libsolv, libzypp, zypper, opensc, subversion, thunderbird, and xz), and Ubuntu (git, linux-bluefield, nginx, and subversion)." https://lwn.net/Articles/891182/ | Apr 13 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security updates for Wednesday [LWN.net] | Apr 13 18:42 | |
| techrights-news | Lambda, Razer launch laptop for deep-learning app development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33335 | Apr 13 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux Machines | Apr 13 18:44 | |
| techrights-news | "Have you considered using a YubiKey? In this complete guide, you'll learn everything you need in order to get started with these awesome security keys." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=INi-xKpYjbE | Apr 13 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | YubiKey Complete Getting Started Guide! - Invidious | Apr 13 18:45 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Recording in 5 mins. | Apr 13 18:45 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show how to install MX Linux 21.1." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zShF_BDRWII | Apr 13 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install MX Linux 21.1 - Invidious | Apr 13 18:46 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | hi techrights_guest|57 | Apr 13 18:47 |
| techrights_guest|57 | nah i'm just bnchs | Apr 13 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | just checking. | Apr 13 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be unpleasant if it became a noiseroom with trolls all of a sudden. | Apr 13 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Recording in a couple of mins. | Apr 13 18:48 |
| bnchs__ | i'm pretty sure a live stream with live IRC chat | Apr 13 18:48 |
| bnchs__ | operating for 2 hours | Apr 13 18:48 |
| bnchs__ | would have that kind of thing | Apr 13 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | FSF advertises Libera.Chat | Apr 13 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is run by some people who called RMS to resign | Apr 13 18:49 |
| MinceR | "come get cancelled with us" | Apr 13 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | that sort of channel and network might attract undesirable participants | Apr 13 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS told me they did consider self-hosting IRC | Apr 13 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but were already juggling some crises | Apr 13 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and had considered the option | Apr 13 18:50 |
| matey | which is run by some people who called RMS to resign <- since this is lieplanet, maybe he will present them with a free software award | Apr 13 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Freenode was a ticking time bomb at the time | Apr 13 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | They hardly got enough time to even inform people that they moved | Apr 13 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | IIRC, a message sent on Friday in their site | Apr 13 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then by Sunday the chaos started | Apr 13 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Then on Monday they issued a more pressing thing to stress they had moved | Apr 13 18:51 |
| matey | Freenode was a ticking time bomb at the time <- the best way to avoid one disaster is to submit to a different one preemptively | Apr 13 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah was left in charge of their Freenode channels | Apr 13 18:51 |
| matey | freenode is obviously going to suck, lets go to nazichat instead! | Apr 13 18:51 |
| matey | leah was left in charge of their Freenode channels <- thats still better than liebere | Apr 13 18:52 |
| batalie | not really. at least libera.chat channels are stable and not subject to purge anytime rasengan wants to try out new server software | Apr 13 18:52 |
| matey | at least libera.chat channels are stable <- ah technical merit, the rallying cry of open source | Apr 13 18:52 |
| *schestowitz-TR records | Apr 13 18:53 | |
| matey | pay no attention to the thought police, they care about your freedom | Apr 13 18:53 |
| batalie | that's my main problem with freenode. you just wouldn't know if your channel would be there tomorrow | Apr 13 18:53 |
| matey | whereas with liebera, you dont know youll be banned in 5 minutes | Apr 13 18:53 |
| matey | but at least the channel will go on! | Apr 13 18:53 |
| batalie | lol whatever man | Apr 13 18:53 |
| batalie | i don't like the mods supporting rms cancellation either but have never had a problem | Apr 13 18:54 |
| batalie | with them personally | Apr 13 18:54 |
| matey | whatever man must be coded language for "im full of fucking shit and wont admit what everyone in this channel already knows" | Apr 13 18:54 |
| batalie | which is what? | Apr 13 18:54 |
| matey | oh boy | Apr 13 18:54 |
| MinceR | "stable", as in enduring netsplits all the time | Apr 13 18:54 |
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| matey | i dont blame rms for any of the bullshit we are about to witness | Apr 13 18:57 |
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| Red | t | Apr 13 18:57 |
| matey | its not really rms | Apr 13 18:57 |
| *Red is now known as Redfoxmoon | Apr 13 18:57 | |
| matey | hes a manGNUrian candidate | Apr 13 18:58 |
| batalie | the massachusettsean candidate | Apr 13 18:58 |
| MinceR | as for the "whatabout freenode" thing, there are over 400 irc networks where neither rasengan nor bully deblanc's and neil mcgovern's little band of corporate outragists have any power | Apr 13 18:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β β ββββ β ββ βββββββββββ ββββββββββ ββββ avg(k/sec) 21.80 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 109.13β swarm size (avg): 361.40 β² | Apr 13 18:59 |
| psydruid | Super RMS | Apr 13 18:59 |
| batalie | i wonder if he's ever considered running for office | Apr 13 19:00 |
| batalie | not the presidency | Apr 13 19:00 |
| batalie | some local thing | Apr 13 19:00 |
| psydruid | it's still the retro music for me | Apr 13 19:01 |
| matey | theyre actually violating the music license | Apr 13 19:02 |
| matey | theyre using by-sa in an nd-licensed work | Apr 13 19:02 |
| matey | its like using gpl in a non-free work | Apr 13 19:02 |
| matey | the cc0 they can use | Apr 13 19:02 |
| matey | but if they have permission they can do what they want | Apr 13 19:02 |
| matey | the irony being that by-sa is SUPPOSED to be a copyleft license that forces anyone using it to make the derivative work (like this talk) use a free license too | Apr 13 19:03 |
| matey | but rms is too clever for that | Apr 13 19:03 |
| matey | (i really hate rms on free culture issues, this isnt a big secret) | Apr 13 19:03 |
| batalie | i hate his obsession with cc-by-nd | Apr 13 19:04 |
| batalie | one of his only wrong points | Apr 13 19:04 |
| matey | yep, its crap | Apr 13 19:04 |
| bnchs__ | is it already getting trolled | Apr 13 19:05 |
| matey | back34 by tom peter cc-by-sa | Apr 13 19:05 |
| matey | a license not only inspired by, but compatible with, the gpl (as of version 4.0) and the rms talk is violating it | Apr 13 19:06 |
| matey | which bfd, but its just really great to see | Apr 13 19:06 |
| matey | the cc0 is definitely alright and the cc-by one i think is probably alright | Apr 13 19:07 |
| matey | but last i checked, sa means "sharealike" and thats not whats happening | Apr 13 19:07 |
| psydruid | the stream died | Apr 13 19:07 |
| bnchs__ | the stream started | Apr 13 19:07 |
| psydruid | no more music | Apr 13 19:08 |
| psydruid | there it is | Apr 13 19:08 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLqPnO7Cdeg | Apr 13 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cLqPnO7Cdeg | Apr 13 19:09 | |
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| matey | i dont have my headphones on yet, is he sheepishly explaining the garish choice of shirt and url for this talk? | Apr 13 19:09 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, it's the US references, lame. | Apr 13 19:10 |
| psydruid | it's an RMS impostor | Apr 13 19:10 |
| bnchs__ | psydruid, bathroom stall | Apr 13 19:10 |
| psydruid | a spokesbot | Apr 13 19:11 |
| matey | <psydruid> it's an RMS impostor <- hehehe | Apr 13 19:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Such missed opportunities as "Rogozin's Trampoline" | Apr 13 19:11 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: viewers wouldn't have got that, including me | Apr 13 19:11 |
| bnchs__ | we're literally watching a tedx event | Apr 13 19:12 |
| bnchs__ | ON THE LIVE STREAM | Apr 13 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | (it's actually an Elon Musk reference just as well) | Apr 13 19:12 |
| bnchs__ | he's playing a video instead | Apr 13 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | this s typical | Apr 13 19:12 |
| matey | i sure theyre staying away from any russian references as theyve all been banned by darpa | Apr 13 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of his talks since 2019 play that back | Apr 13 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/trampoline-space-russian-official-tells-nasa-take-flying-leap-n92616 | Apr 13 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Trampoline to Space? Russian Official Tells NASA to Take a Flying Leap | Apr 13 19:12 | |
| bnchs__ | i'm playing the live stream with MPV | Apr 13 19:13 |
| matey | one small step for man | Apr 13 19:13 |
| matey | one flying leap for mankind | Apr 13 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: IRC is recoded at the moment | Apr 13 19:13 |
| psydruid | is this trolling? | Apr 13 19:13 |
| matey | no roy says they do this a lot | Apr 13 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | better not to shift attention to the war | Apr 13 19:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 13 19:13 |
| matey | (which isnt a no, but im going to believe him for now) | Apr 13 19:13 |
| matey | DONT MENTION THE WAR! | Apr 13 19:13 |
| matey | i mentioned it a couple times but i think i got away with it | Apr 13 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | war on general-purpose computing?> | Apr 13 19:14 |
| matey | hello, i want to welcome YOUR WAR YOU WAR YOU-ALLLL | Apr 13 19:14 |
| batalie | i think he makes most people play this talk beforehand so that he doesn't get stupid questions | Apr 13 19:14 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: did no one tell rogozin that there are other space agencies with space launch capability, like the ESA? | Apr 13 19:14 |
| matey | the esa has space capability for now, but not if the epo can do anything about it | Apr 13 19:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 13 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it records RMS talking (TED) | Apr 13 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can comment on it | Apr 13 19:15 |
| matey | so weve got a prawn cocktail, a hermann goering, for cold meat salads | Apr 13 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I won;t comment on his talking until it's the new (today's, live) talk | Apr 13 19:15 |
| matey | WOULD YOU STOP MENTIONING THE WAR | Apr 13 19:16 |
| matey | what? youre the one who started it! | Apr 13 19:16 |
| matey | no we didnt | Apr 13 19:16 |
| MinceR | what war? | Apr 13 19:16 |
| matey | yes you did, you invaded poland! | Apr 13 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the talk he gave at TED (in the background) is fast-paced | Apr 13 19:16 |
| matey | mincer: its fawlty towers: the germans | Apr 13 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to time limitations | Apr 13 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | when he gives the talk later it'll be slower for sure | Apr 13 19:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence easier to respond to | Apr 13 19:16 |
| matey | later, like 16 minutes after the talk starts :) | Apr 13 19:17 |
| matey | 17 | Apr 13 19:17 |
| matey | its fine | Apr 13 19:17 |
| matey | i like that the eye of sauron is the nsa | Apr 13 19:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think the TED talk is shorter | Apr 13 19:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | amin bendali (bendali?) gave the intro | Apr 13 19:18 |
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| schestowitz-TR | he spoke about gopher, gemini etc. last month | Apr 13 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not fully agree with some of what he said | Apr 13 19:18 |
| matey | they have to play the ted talk while they prep rms for the talk with leather belts and electrical shocks | Apr 13 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's not maintaining the fsd, free software dir | Apr 13 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not free software def. | Apr 13 19:18 |
| matey | also ritual chanting | Apr 13 19:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | mike gerwitz stopped | Apr 13 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder is RMS will wear blue today. He has done this a lot since 2020 | Apr 13 19:19 |
| batalie | is there a significance to wearing blue? | Apr 13 19:19 |
| batalie | sorry for ignorance | Apr 13 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe that PR consulting firm advised not to use red, who knows... | Apr 13 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | batalie: he used to wear lots of red and brown | Apr 13 19:20 |
| matey | the chart at 1:18 explains how theyve violated the license at the beginning of the stream | Apr 13 19:20 |
| batalie | oh right | Apr 13 19:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "it's a cloooooud" -RMS | Apr 13 19:20 |
| matey | both ted and fsf logos are red so he can just say he matches | Apr 13 19:21 |
| psydruid | stream died? | Apr 13 19:21 |
| psydruid | oh, my internet died | Apr 13 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple loves roping users | Apr 13 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | in these graphics that he has in his slides | Apr 13 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: it was done without much preparation | Apr 13 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | started about 10 mins late | Apr 13 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and amin struggled to start the playback | Apr 13 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did rehearse, I am sure | Apr 13 19:22 |
| matey | in a dark room, strapped to a board | Apr 13 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cannot ensure he stays on script | Apr 13 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he would | Apr 13 19:22 |
| matey | they have ways... | Apr 13 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | ime, this is what makes q and a fun | Apr 13 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | unplanned things | Apr 13 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the admins, maye kooyman and others, can cherry-pick irc queries | Apr 13 19:22 |
| bnchs__ | matey: you're weird | Apr 13 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the selection defines what topics he covers | Apr 13 19:23 |
| bnchs__ | i mean weirdddd | Apr 13 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus, the people who signed the anti-rms letter, also weed out who can ask | Apr 13 19:23 |
| matey | yeah if someone goes GLORY TO VLADIMIR PUTIN! they can just go "um, next question?" | Apr 13 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people are already DENY-listed from Libera.Chat | Apr 13 19:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, it's a broken record | Apr 13 19:23 |
| matey | well hes already got a diagram full of mains | Apr 13 19:23 |
| matey | not mains, whats the thing that mains are attached to | Apr 13 19:24 |
| matey | secondaries! | Apr 13 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they muted it | Apr 13 19:24 |
| matey | they muted him already | Apr 13 19:24 |
| matey | before hes even live | Apr 13 19:24 |
| matey | hes got a bunch of secondaries in his diagram | Apr 13 19:24 |
| matey | for the full ted talk, goto ted.elonmusk.com | Apr 13 19:25 |
| matey | formerly twitter | Apr 13 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | now you can see RMS | Apr 13 19:25 |
| matey | and we are back on | Apr 13 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, I now have the sound on and the viceo showing next to IRC | Apr 13 19:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new talk will start in a ouple of minutes | Apr 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *couple | Apr 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | IIRC, the TED talk is 14 mins long | Apr 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they deem it his best for a general audience | Apr 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, it is done | Apr 13 19:29 |
| MinceR | rip and tear, until it is done | Apr 13 19:29 |
| psydroid2 | he sounds like stephen hawking now | Apr 13 19:30 |
| batalie | lol he really does | Apr 13 19:31 |
| matey | its not sabotage its technical difficulties | Apr 13 19:31 |
| bnchs__ | he turned off the webcam | Apr 13 19:31 |
| bnchs__ | because choppy audio | Apr 13 19:31 |
| batalie | i couldn't understand a word he was saying before he turned it off | Apr 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, seems like bandwidth limits | Apr 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | capacity thresholds | Apr 13 19:32 |
| matey | if the audio feed doesnt work out they can just stream the teleprompter | Apr 13 19:33 |
| batalie | i don't think i've ever heard him talk about retrocomputing before | Apr 13 19:33 |
| matey | retrocomputing is mostly nonfree | Apr 13 19:33 |
| activelow | modern computing is nonfree | Apr 13 19:33 |
| activelow | all of it | Apr 13 19:33 |
| matey | heh | Apr 13 19:33 |
| batalie | i think anyone using an x200 is retrocomputing at this point | Apr 13 19:34 |
| bnchs__ | lol | Apr 13 19:34 |
| bnchs__ | there's already trolls in #fsf | Apr 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | as one can expect | Apr 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they advertised it | Apr 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | easlier I shows on audiocast | Apr 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | that libera was failing | Apr 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | you could not log in | Apr 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the whole 'webapp' collapsed | Apr 13 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | even refreshing would not fix it | Apr 13 19:35 |
| matey | but its stable | Apr 13 19:35 |
| bnchs__ | lol already on 4chan | Apr 13 19:37 |
| bnchs__ | there's probably gonna be a stream of trolls | Apr 13 19:38 |
| matey | lots of things are getting worse | Apr 13 19:38 |
| matey | hes going to switch to being technical here | Apr 13 19:38 |
| matey | no politics | Apr 13 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he refrained from saying "Russia" | Apr 13 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "Ukraine" | Apr 13 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's clear what he was alluding to | Apr 13 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not "ethical" in the abstract | Apr 13 19:39 |
| batalie | yeah i think he made his point well | Apr 13 19:40 |
| matey | like they did to him before the talk | Apr 13 19:40 |
| matey | gnu linux doesnt need floppy support | Apr 13 19:40 |
| MinceR | it doesn't need an SMB server in the kernel either | Apr 13 19:40 |
| matey | true | Apr 13 19:41 |
| MinceR | it also doesn't need a massive NSA backdoor running in pid1 as root | Apr 13 19:41 |
| matey | ubuntu is non-free, tribuntu is free+systemd free/systemd | Apr 13 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | "<lp-attendee82751> who here from /g/?" | Apr 13 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | lol 4chan already raided | Apr 13 19:42 |
| matey | lp-attendee82751 <- this isnt lp | Apr 13 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 13 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they used "children" to cancel RMS | Apr 13 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was alluding to Snap erlier\ | Apr 13 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he rarely names things | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | just the concepts | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: see file name of webm | Apr 13 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it says libreplanet | Apr 13 19:46 |
| matey | matey: see file name of webm it says libreplanet <- yes i was calling that a farce earlier | Apr 13 19:47 |
| matey | maybe every day is libreplanet! | Apr 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was quaint | Apr 13 19:48 |
| bnchs__ | wow | Apr 13 19:48 |
| bnchs__ | matey: are you in the liberachat channel | Apr 13 19:48 |
| matey | matey: are you in the liberachat channel <- not if they paid me | Apr 13 19:48 |
| matey | not if it was the last text chat on the internet | Apr 13 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am showing both in tadem | Apr 13 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | tandem | Apr 13 19:49 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, yeah it's being filled with 4chan trolls | Apr 13 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | techrghts and fsf official | Apr 13 19:49 |
| matey | just the fact that im HERE and not there should speak volumes | Apr 13 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was predictable | Apr 13 19:49 |
| matey | yeah it's being filled with 4chan trolls <- cool that they can remove rms fans and let 4chan take over | Apr 13 19:49 |
| matey | stay classy, liebera | Apr 13 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | theycannot advertise only to well-intentioned people | Apr 13 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3k people still want to cancel him | Apr 13 19:49 |
| matey | 3k people still want to cancel him <- its more than 3k | Apr 13 19:51 |
| matey | some of those are organisations | Apr 13 19:51 |
| *activelow couldn't graps yet why | Apr 13 19:51 | |
| activelow | exactly what is rms accused of to justify this? | Apr 13 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: so called | Apr 13 19:51 |
| matey | fair enough, but numerically... | Apr 13 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "the liux experiment" is just some bloggeror vloger | Apr 13 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | lsted under orgs | Apr 13 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | *listed | Apr 13 19:52 |
| matey | hes not an org, hes a dude | Apr 13 19:52 |
| matey | yeah | Apr 13 19:52 |
| matey | pretty sure the eff is an org | Apr 13 19:52 |
| matey | or was | Apr 13 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | PAC | Apr 13 19:52 |
| matey | im aware of the linux nazi experiment | Apr 13 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | PACohn | Apr 13 19:52 |
| batalie | the linux nazi experiment? | Apr 13 19:52 |
| matey | jono PACohn? | Apr 13 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is already married to LF | Apr 13 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also Microsoft | Apr 13 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | among his 'clients' | Apr 13 19:53 |
| matey | everyone works for microsoft | Apr 13 19:54 |
| matey | some more than others | Apr 13 19:54 |
| matey | "you dont have to say no every time" this is like like what andy farnells book says | Apr 13 19:56 |
| matey | a lot like | Apr 13 19:56 |
| matey | farnell spoke with rms quite a lot over the past few years | Apr 13 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | farnell did the english article | Apr 13 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the polish student | Apr 13 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | #fsf being trolled | Apr 13 19:58 |
| bnchs__ | ofc it's being trolled | Apr 13 19:59 |
| bnchs__ | i knew this was gonna happen | Apr 13 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | different strategies there | Apr 13 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | society is like this | Apr 13 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and corporate media eggs them on | Apr 13 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh dead | Apr 13 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | n word everywhere | Apr 13 20:00 |
| matey | big hand to liebera for demonstrating their shameless bias and double standards | Apr 13 20:00 |
| matey | shows what a farce liebera is | Apr 13 20:00 |
| matey | just using the trappings of tolerance to justify censorship of iconoclasts | Apr 13 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | the chat there will become about the trolling | Apr 13 20:01 |
| batalie | they were banned | Apr 13 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they are not careful | Apr 13 20:01 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820745.png | Apr 13 20:01 |
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| leah | matey: i only did that on a whim | Apr 13 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | hi leah | Apr 13 20:02 |
| leah | i quickly relinguished my op there | Apr 13 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are recording | Apr 13 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | an show irc | Apr 13 20:02 |
| matey | good to have you here leah | Apr 13 20:02 |
| leah | i was curious to see if it would happen | Apr 13 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | this channel and fsf too | Apr 13 20:02 |
| leah | what are you recording | Apr 13 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | sound and irc networks | Apr 13 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | in tadem | Apr 13 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | very improvsed | Apr 13 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | tandem | Apr 13 20:03 |
| leah | ok | Apr 13 20:03 |
| leah | i'm going to bed | Apr 13 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | i was planning to respond | Apr 13 20:03 |
| leah | was just checking out who pinged me | Apr 13 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he speaks too fast | Apr 13 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | no pauses | Apr 13 20:03 |
| leah | who does? | Apr 13 20:03 |
| leah | oh the rms thing | Apr 13 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | i saw you in fs | Apr 13 20:04 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: do you know if the fsf will have recordings of that | Apr 13 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | you said you had not heard of this talk | Apr 13 20:04 |
| leah | i didn't know the talk was happening | Apr 13 20:04 |
| leah | i'm curious to see the whole speech | Apr 13 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: i will upload after the talk | Apr 13 20:04 |
| leah | mostly because someone in fsf earlier asked rms about my microcode policy on osboot | Apr 13 20:04 |
| leah | and i wanna see what he said :) | Apr 13 20:05 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: cheers. ping me when it's uploaded | Apr 13 20:05 |
| matey | im downloading it and i know roy will put it up later | Apr 13 20:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it will be playable as soon asI stop recording | Apr 13 20:05 |
| leah | then i will go to sleep. ping me when the recording is up | Apr 13 20:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i won't be processing it | Apr 13 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | just uplosf ehrn done | Apr 13 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | upload when done | Apr 13 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | i type on a distant laptop | Apr 13 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence tons of typos | Apr 13 20:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/g9BOyC37JGU What a nice Italian vlog (English subtitles). | Apr 13 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=g9BOyC37JGU | Apr 13 20:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | ΠΠΈΡΠΈΠΆΡΡ ΠΏΡΡΠΈΠ½ΡΠΊΠΎΠΉ Π²ΠΎΠΉΠ½Ρ - Invidious | Apr 13 20:08 | |
| matey | how much of what hes saying in this talk isnt covered by the eff? | Apr 13 20:10 |
| matey | reason i ask is something roy said a year ago | Apr 13 20:10 |
| matey | its not because i dont hate the eff | Apr 13 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | eff does not cover these issues | Apr 13 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | eff is politics | Apr 13 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | they pushed out s second cofounder | Apr 13 20:11 |
| matey | oh hes talking about co-pilot | Apr 13 20:11 |
| matey | but he wont say dont use github | Apr 13 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | afer barlow had died | Apr 13 20:11 |
| matey | yeah i know the one with the frog domain | Apr 13 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: he MinceS words | Apr 13 20:12 |
| matey | oof | Apr 13 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | did not say Russia | Apr 13 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | or snaps | Apr 13 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | he named emacs 9and zoom | Apr 13 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | he is using mumble atm | Apr 13 20:12 |
| matey | rr mm ff, ffmmrr of the ff ff ff | Apr 13 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | we use mumble too | Apr 13 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is proper e2ee | Apr 13 20:14 |
| matey | i thought you were joking that he was mumbling about certain things instead of mentining by name | Apr 13 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | #fsf has many trolls still | Apr 13 20:14 |
| matey | but i know theres a program called mumble | Apr 13 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | many got k-lined | Apr 13 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but s/n ratio still low | Apr 13 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | mumble is very good | Apr 13 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | we use that for techbytes | Apr 13 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | should i also record q and a? | Apr 13 20:16 |
| matey | he just said sometimes its good for the community to use a "weak pushover license" | Apr 13 20:16 |
| matey | this isnt a position i have an issue with, fsf justified such exceptions ages ago | Apr 13 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | cc | Apr 13 20:16 |
| batalie | i mean isn't that the lgpl | Apr 13 20:16 |
| SomeH4x0r | they fucking don't even know how IRC works | Apr 13 20:16 |
| batalie | the weak gnu license | Apr 13 20:16 |
| SomeH4x0r | K-line for network wide bans, full root access over all servers | Apr 13 20:16 |
| matey | lgpl is actually weak on one side, copyleft on the other | Apr 13 20:16 |
| matey | its weak for linking only | Apr 13 20:16 |
| SomeH4x0r | they are either stupid or malicious | Apr 13 20:17 |
| matey | and hes saying gcc has a linking exception | Apr 13 20:17 |
| matey | or gnu libc | Apr 13 20:17 |
| activelow | wasn't aware ordinary gpl expicitely forbids linking, which i needed to, to prevent misunderstandings | Apr 13 20:17 |
| activelow | *it | Apr 13 20:18 |
| matey | it only forbids linking non-free | Apr 13 20:18 |
| matey | and there are exceptions to this | Apr 13 20:18 |
| matey | your needs may not even violate this | Apr 13 20:19 |
| batalie | he gave us some soup puns | Apr 13 20:19 |
| activelow | where in the GPL2/3 license clause is linking non-free forbidden? | Apr 13 20:19 |
| matey | oh god | Apr 13 20:19 |
| matey | oh my god! | Apr 13 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've stopped ecording | Apr 13 20:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | he doesen't even know the incdient | Apr 13 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | a | Apr 13 20:20 |
| matey | just in time to miss the puns | Apr 13 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | or some context | Apr 13 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the puns were not great | Apr 13 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | video ended | Apr 13 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me test it | Apr 13 20:20 |
| batalie | they were: what human bond is formed over soup? a: broth-erly love and 2: something about a cracker, with the answer being bisque it | Apr 13 20:20 |
| activelow | i mean, i respect if any license forbids linking free software with non-free; yet GPL2 does not forbid it to my knowledge, even if FSF or anyone else argued, the license text does _not_ contain any clause | Apr 13 20:21 |
| matey | the puns were not great <- i liked them | Apr 13 20:22 |
| matey | they were terrible | Apr 13 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | toital size 296mb | Apr 13 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | uploading | Apr 13 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, the text is legible | Apr 13 20:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | also for #fsf | Apr 13 20:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you fullscreen it | Apr 13 20:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 more hours for this upload | Apr 13 20:25 |
| activelow | "If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works." | Apr 13 20:26 |
| matey | yet GPL2 does not forbid it to my knowledge <- this is not a gpl 2 vs 3 issue | Apr 13 20:27 |
| matey | its gpl | Apr 13 20:27 |
| matey | it applies to both | Apr 13 20:27 |
| activelow | ^ this is exactly what package managers do, separating various libs and programs from each other, weakining any implicite linking issue with regards to this licenes, the GPL2 (and 3?) | Apr 13 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could upload it faster with rsync | Apr 13 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it would choke our network | Apr 13 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I want to post some links in a moment | Apr 13 20:28 |
| matey | no rush | Apr 13 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 120 mins (eta for post with video) | Apr 13 20:28 |
| matey | its a good mediocre predictable talk | Apr 13 20:28 |
| matey | nothing groundbreaking | Apr 13 20:28 |
| batalie | 4chan people spamming swastikas | Apr 13 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the q and a started very poorly | Apr 13 20:28 |
| matey | swastikas are holy symbols co-opted by nazi shits | Apr 13 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | people asking about something he knows too little about (the story, not the issue in general) | Apr 13 20:29 |
| bnchs__ | yes | Apr 13 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | ironically a peace symbol | Apr 13 20:30 |
| bnchs__ | they're spreading swastikas like crazy | Apr 13 20:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | nazi germany was fast to invade countries | Apr 13 20:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | came to power 1933 | Apr 13 20:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | invading in 1939 | Apr 13 20:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | first they were busy with their "make german great again" | Apr 13 20:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | building tanks and blacklisting people | Apr 13 20:31 |
| matey | denylisting | Apr 13 20:31 |
| activelow | soviets built more tanks than germany, many more. | Apr 13 20:32 |
| batalie | /g/ is so annoying | Apr 13 20:32 |
| batalie | trolls like them impair his credibility with normal people | Apr 13 20:33 |
| matey | swastikas really arent different than chakras or yin yangs | Apr 13 20:34 |
| techrights-news | Almost 70% possession for Man City in this away game https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61086835 | Apr 13 20:34 |
| matey | krisha has one with 108 blades that seeks and destroys evil | Apr 13 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Atletico Madrid v Manchester City - BBC Sport | Apr 13 20:35 | |
| matey | it would be cool if swastikas turned on nazis and i dont know | Apr 13 20:35 |
| matey | cut them up a bit | Apr 13 20:35 |
| techrights-news | RMS talk will be online in 2 hours (not livestream) | Apr 13 20:35 |
| matey | but i think its going to be a long wait, generally they just sit there, making people think its a nazi symbol | Apr 13 20:35 |
| activelow | context | Apr 13 20:36 |
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| matey | context indeed | Apr 13 20:36 |
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| activelow | with the "free software" i got here, the livestream is accessible; have to wait, what the fsf represents, what "state of free software" is for them. | Apr 13 20:38 |
| activelow | *is not | Apr 13 20:38 |
| *psydroid2 doesn't see a reason to stop using swastikas | Apr 13 20:39 | |
| matey | nah theyre cool | Apr 13 20:40 |
| matey | its about context | Apr 13 20:40 |
| matey | falun gong actually has permission to display them in germany where theyre banned | Apr 13 20:40 |
| matey | their flag has one | Apr 13 20:40 |
| batalie | i think they're rotated a different way when done like that | Apr 13 20:41 |
| batalie | i think it's called a manji | Apr 13 20:41 |
| psydroid2 | I think the nazis coopting them should be pointed out instead | Apr 13 20:41 |
| matey | yes | Apr 13 20:41 |
| matey | i think they're rotated a different way when done like that <- "real" historical / ancient swastikas are rotated both ways | Apr 13 20:42 |
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| matey | theres even a very old jewish temple with swastikas all over the floor | Apr 13 20:43 |
| matey | in israel i think | Apr 13 20:43 |
| matey | (before 1948) | Apr 13 20:43 |
| psydroid2 | if swastikas were outlawed they should probably arrest my entire family | Apr 13 20:43 |
| matey | theyre banned in germany for obvious reasons | Apr 13 20:43 |
| matey | which i think is stupid | Apr 13 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | in germany nobody thinks of them mas peace symbols | Apr 13 20:43 |
| matey | the hammer and sickle is illegal to display in moldova i think | Apr 13 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | untless they're shrewd trolls | Apr 13 20:44 |
| matey | dont get me wrong, theyre certainly not peace symbols when nazis use them | Apr 13 20:45 |
| matey | though its like if 4chan finds a racist way to use the word "banana" | Apr 13 20:45 |
| matey | so we have to call them something else now? | Apr 13 20:45 |
| matey | thats what i think is silly | Apr 13 20:45 |
| matey | actually banana is a slur for asians | Apr 13 20:46 |
| matey | so there | Apr 13 20:46 |
| matey | if theyre "white on the inside" | Apr 13 20:46 |
| matey | like oreo as a slur for blacks who "act white" | Apr 13 20:46 |
| matey | or coconot for people who are brown... but... | Apr 13 20:46 |
| psydroid2 | outlaw bananas | Apr 13 20:48 |
| psydroid2 | and coconuts | Apr 13 20:48 |
| matey | theyre symbols of hate | Apr 13 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | Or radish for people who are Red (Communist) on the outside but White ("White movement") on the inside :P | Apr 13 20:49 |
| matey | /me tsks a giant statue of buddha with a swastika on his forehead | Apr 13 20:49 |
| matey | "racist!" | Apr 13 20:49 |
| matey | Or radish for people who are Red (Communist) on the outside but White ("White movement") on the inside <- clever | Apr 13 20:49 |
| psydroid2 | is he eating on the stream now? | Apr 13 20:50 |
| matey | i hope not | Apr 13 20:51 |
| matey | the jokes will write themselves :/ | Apr 13 20:51 |
| matey | in a way im glad he gives zero fucks | Apr 13 20:51 |
| matey | but then again | Apr 13 20:51 |
| matey | /me isnt listening to q&a now, still downloading it | Apr 13 20:52 |
| batalie | he is | Apr 13 20:53 |
| batalie | he says he couldn't resist eating some cashews he has | Apr 13 20:53 |
| matey | rofl | Apr 13 20:53 |
| batalie | kind of annoying | Apr 13 20:53 |
| matey | zero fucks | Apr 13 20:53 |
| psydroid2 | he could eat them after the talk | Apr 13 20:53 |
| psydroid2 | lol | Apr 13 20:53 |
| psydroid2 | I like cashews too, but not when I'm holding a talk | Apr 13 20:54 |
| matey | he could at least eat them away from the mic ffs | Apr 13 20:56 |
| psydroid2 | yeah | Apr 13 20:56 |
| matey | this is not as important as other things, but cmon | Apr 13 20:56 |
| techrights-news | GCompris 2.4 Release: Improved Data Efficiency Conserves Network Bandwidth, Saves Energy β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163685 | Apr 13 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCompris 2.4 Release: Improved Data Efficiency Conserves Network Bandwidth, Saves Energy | Tux Machines | Apr 13 20:56 | |
| bnchs__ | gnu/linucks | Apr 13 20:56 |
| matey | like hes got two working hands | Apr 13 20:56 |
| bnchs__ | i don't get over that | Apr 13 20:56 |
| matey | one can go over the mic just fine | Apr 13 20:56 |
| psydroid2 | gnu/cashews | Apr 13 20:56 |
| bnchs__ | ganooh/linucks | Apr 13 20:57 |
| bnchs__ | i cant get over that | Apr 13 20:57 |
| matey | actually kde 4 was worse about cashews | Apr 13 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | In Soviet Russia the KDE cashews were called toilet handles. | Apr 13 20:58 |
| XRevan86 | or flush handles more literally | Apr 13 20:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: βββ βββββββββ ββ βββ ββββββββ β ββ ββββββββ avg(k/sec) 27.78 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 35.10β swarm size (avg): 335.81 β² | Apr 13 20:59 |
| matey | i installed the thing to remove it | Apr 13 20:59 |
| matey | then i uninstalled kde | Apr 13 20:59 |
| matey | then i was never able to get it working again | Apr 13 21:00 |
| matey | too complex, nothing like kde 3.5 | Apr 13 21:00 |
| matey | which never failed me | Apr 13 21:00 |
| psydroid2 | the kde 4 panel would eat itself repeatedly | Apr 13 21:00 |
| techrights-news | MLOps Pipeline with MLFlow, Seldon Core and Kubeflow | Ubuntu β https://ubuntu.com//blog/mlops-pipeline-with-mlflow-seldon-core-and-kubeflow-pipelines δ· Source: ubuntu | Apr 13 21:00 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/mlops-pipeline-with-mlflow-seldon-core-and-kubeflow-pipelines https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/mlops-pipeline-with-mlflow-seldon-core-and-kubeflow-pipelines | Apr 13 21:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MLOps Pipeline with MLFlow, Seldon Core and Kubeflow | Ubuntu | Apr 13 21:00 | |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 21:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: eta 1.5 hours | Apr 13 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the video | Apr 13 21:00 |
| psydroid2 | it was maddening, because that desktop was used in production | Apr 13 21:00 |
| psydroid2 | even late in the kde 4 cycle it would just disappear | Apr 13 21:01 |
| techrights-news | Amberol is Fab No-Frills Audio Player for GNOME Desktop β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163686 | Apr 13 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amberol is Fab No-Frills Audio Player for GNOME Desktop | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:01 | |
| psydroid2 | it never happened to me, but it happened to others | Apr 13 21:01 |
| matey | as long as youre getting pinged: leah i dont think he mentioned osboot | Apr 13 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | could make the upload go twice as fast but ruin the connection for the whole house | Apr 13 21:02 |
| matey | yeah its not urgent | Apr 13 21:02 |
| AdmFubar | how wide of a connection do you have? | Apr 13 21:02 |
| matey | if he said something amazing id say fuck your connection | Apr 13 21:02 |
| matey | but thats not going to happen | Apr 13 21:02 |
| techrights-news | openSUSE Community Publishes Annual Survey Results - openSUSE News β https://news.opensuse.org/2022/04/13/os-community-publishes-annual-survey-results/ δ· Source: news | Apr 13 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE Community Publishes Annual Survey Results - openSUSE News | Apr 13 21:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: upstream max 1MBit/sec | Apr 13 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 120KB | Apr 13 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use about 40 now | Apr 13 21:03 |
| AdmFubar | ick | Apr 13 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | we went through this last year, AdmFubar | Apr 13 21:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the whole fibre experiment/blunder | Apr 13 21:03 |
| AdmFubar | yeah | Apr 13 21:03 |
| AdmFubar | wasn't sure what you have currently | Apr 13 21:04 |
| matey | you dont need fibre, just shove some leafy greens in the modem | Apr 13 21:05 |
| matey | maybe sprinkle some flax seed on it | Apr 13 21:06 |
| *Skywave has quit (connection closed) | Apr 13 21:06 | |
| psydroid2 | cashew fibre or fibre cashew? | Apr 13 21:06 |
| techrights-news | Archcraft 2022.04 Now Available to Download After Major Cleanup of Packages http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163621#comment-33337 | Apr 13 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Archcraft April Release Available | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:07 | |
| psydroid2 | we have the retromusic again | Apr 13 21:07 |
| techrights-news | Discover New Things on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Pre-release β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163687 | Apr 13 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Discover New Things on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Pre-release | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:07 | |
| *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 21:07 | |
| schestowitz | <i smmicrobell running ads https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=noctua-nh-d12l&num=1 | Apr 13 21:08 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: phoronix.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=noctua-nh-d12l&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=noctua-nh-d12l&num=1 | Apr 13 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Noctua NH-D12L Dual Tower CPU Cooler - 120mm-Class Cooling For 4U Server Cases Review - Phoronix | Apr 13 21:08 | |
| psydroid2 | AMD + Noctua? | Apr 13 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | = <3 | Apr 13 21:09 |
| matey | maybe he can run them in liebera | Apr 13 21:09 |
| techrights-news | RebornOS Brings Choice and Simplicity to Arch Linux β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163688 | Apr 13 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RebornOS Brings Choice and Simplicity to Arch Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:09 | |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xHEU4EI4toY | Apr 13 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ciara - Goodies (CASHEW Remix) - Invidious | Apr 13 21:09 | |
| techrights-news | Bash If-Else statements with examples | FOSS Linux β https://www.fosslinux.com/58258/bash-if-else-statements-with-examples.htm δ· Source: fosslinux | Apr 13 21:11 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: fosslinux.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fosslinux.com/58258/bash-if-else-statements-with-examples.htm https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.fosslinux.com/58258/bash-if-else-statements-with-examples.htm | Apr 13 21:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | Bash If-Else statements with examples | FOSS Linux | Apr 13 21:11 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Kernel 5.16 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux Kernel 5.17 β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163689 | Apr 13 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.16 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:12 | |
| matey | and the stream is closed | Apr 13 21:13 |
| matey | or at least stopped downloading | Apr 13 21:14 |
| matey | live.fsf.org page strongly suggests stream is closed | Apr 13 21:14 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163690 | Apr 13 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:16 | |
| matey | so that was libreplanet! | Apr 13 21:19 |
| matey | i was expecting more people to talk besides rms | Apr 13 21:19 |
| activelow | i'm curious what he said about retrocomputing | Apr 13 21:20 |
| bnchs__ | my questions did get featured | Apr 13 21:20 |
| matey | /me does not understand this alternate reality version of the fsf | Apr 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: he did! | Apr 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | he mentioned the role of hardware | Apr 13 21:20 |
| matey | i'm curious what he said about retrocomputing <- he really didnt but to mention | Apr 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how important that is | Apr 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's what you often talk about | Apr 13 21:20 |
| matey | he mentioned the role of hardware <- i will watch it again | Apr 13 21:21 |
| matey | listen | Apr 13 21:21 |
| matey | i was mostly paying attention to new moments, not the whole thing in real time | Apr 13 21:21 |
| techrights-news | SUSE boosting clown and SAP proprietary software https://www.suse.com/c/roadmap-to-the-cloud-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-the-hague/ | Apr 13 21:21 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: suse.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/roadmap-to-the-cloud-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-the-hague/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/roadmap-to-the-cloud-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-the-hague/ | Apr 13 21:21 | |
| matey | i have it downloaded | Apr 13 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.suse.com | Sapphire The hague | Apr 13 21:21 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs #HowTos | #UNIX β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163691 | Apr 13 21:21 |
| matey | i can pay proper attention to it now | Apr 13 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:21 | |
| matey | but i wnted to be sure i noticed if he said anything that was a big deal | Apr 13 21:21 |
| matey | that law he mentioned is bad | Apr 13 21:22 |
| matey | proposed law | Apr 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | cancel rms, cos "the children" | Apr 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the "coc" | Apr 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and epstein | Apr 13 21:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and coc something | Apr 13 21:22 |
| bnchs__ | rms seemed nice | Apr 13 21:23 |
| bnchs__ | also chewing on cashews | Apr 13 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Can you trust a man with a beard so long !!' | Apr 13 21:23 |
| matey | hes a lovely person | Apr 13 21:23 |
| bnchs__ | but i had to listen to the audio-only strea | Apr 13 21:23 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163692 | Apr 13 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:23 | |
| bnchs__ | because bandwidth issues | Apr 13 21:24 |
| matey | you didnt miss much | Apr 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: there was no video | Apr 13 21:24 |
| matey | the stream itself was mostly audio after he cut the feed | Apr 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | only at the start | Apr 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he could not be heard well when the video was on | Apr 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point I had rms video and irc in the same picture | Apr 13 21:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | when it was audio only I turned that off | Apr 13 21:25 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, it was good you disabled irc | Apr 13 21:25 |
| bnchs__ | unless you like big walls of "nigger" | Apr 13 21:26 |
| bnchs__ | and swastika | Apr 13 21:26 |
| techrights-news | βRubΓ©n is founder of the Trisquel GNU/Linux distribution project and other nonprofits. He has contributes to freedom and privacy oriented Web tools, such as GNU IceCat, GNU LibreJS and JShelter.β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/trisquel-founder-on-lazy-eye/ | Apr 13 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk by RubΓ©n RodrΓguez PΓ©rez, Founder of Trisquel GNU/Linux | Techrights | Apr 13 21:26 | |
| techrights-news | βRichard Stallman will be speaking about the free software movement and your freedom. His speech will be nontechnical, admission is gratis, and the public is encouraged to attend online.β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/ | Apr 13 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallmanβs Talk (Livestream) | Techrights | Apr 13 21:26 | |
| matey | funny how no one did that here | Apr 13 21:26 |
| matey | i mean, libera is censored | Apr 13 21:26 |
| matey | this place isnt | Apr 13 21:26 |
| matey | libera gets loads of racist spam | Apr 13 21:26 |
| matey | this place didnt | Apr 13 21:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | as you point out | Apr 13 21:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have no bans | Apr 13 21:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | no mutes | Apr 13 21:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and had no issues like there | Apr 13 21:28 |
| matey | we could have at least had dfc show up to complain about minorities in chicago | Apr 13 21:28 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cx6idhqwngvq4.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 21:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point they k-filed a dozen users all at once | Apr 13 21:28 |
| matey | haha | Apr 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they were TARGETED | Apr 13 21:28 |
| bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so not a fair comparison | Apr 13 21:28 |
| matey | no its not a fair comparison | Apr 13 21:28 |
| matey | its a funny one | Apr 13 21:28 |
| matey | <matey> funny how no one did that here | Apr 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | my upload is halfway there now | Apr 13 21:28 |
| matey | a fair one would make the points you just did | Apr 13 21:28 |
| bnchs__ | their ban record is probably off the charts | Apr 13 21:29 |
| bnchs__ | from that 4chan raid | Apr 13 21:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's accessible, but I don't want to advertise the URL until it's finished | Apr 13 21:29 |
| bnchs__ | https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/86490278 | Apr 13 21:30 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: 4channel.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/86490278 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/86490278 | Apr 13 21:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boards.4channel.org | /g/ - Richard Stallman is going to give a talk about cur - Technology - 4chan | Apr 13 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rvu55DPWkU | Apr 13 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=-rvu55DPWkU | Apr 13 21:30 | |
| bnchs__ | source of all the problems | Apr 13 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.mutahar.rocks | Why Chrysler Makes the Worst Cars in America - Invidious | Apr 13 21:30 | |
| techrights-news | Razer just launched a gorgeous new Linux laptop - but it's probably not for you http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33336 | Apr 13 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:30 | |
| *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 21:31 | |
| matey | i just realised rms has a short beard now | Apr 13 21:34 |
| matey | im so used to a long beard i didnt even notice | Apr 13 21:34 |
| matey | hes literally not a neckbeard. | Apr 13 21:35 |
| matey | whats next, short hair? | Apr 13 21:38 |
| matey | the beard is totally papa smurf | Apr 13 21:38 |
| matey | i mean papa smurfs okay | Apr 13 21:38 |
| matey | im sure people will prefer this | Apr 13 21:39 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> "Can you trust a man with a beard so long !!' <- moot now | Apr 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he'll shave it, hoping people will the leave it along | Apr 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | *alone | Apr 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the "professionalism" myth | Apr 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | "maybe if I play along..." | Apr 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't. | Apr 13 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't dislike you for the bear. | Apr 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the toe. | Apr 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ideas is what they hate | Apr 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | they look for vices. | Apr 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | "dude, are you just jealous?" | Apr 13 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hey, are you making fun of the company for being run by an indian?" | Apr 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hey, are you making fun of the company for being run by a short/obese person?" | Apr 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people say Microsoft is loathed for being big | Apr 13 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | not for being corrupt | Apr 13 21:42 |
| techrights-news | Links 13/04/2022: TurnKey Linux 17.0 and High-End GNU/Linux Laptops | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/turnkey-linux/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/13/turnkey-linux/ | Apr 13 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/04/2022: TurnKey Linux 17.0 and High-End GNU/Linux Laptops | Techrights | Apr 13 21:49 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163693 | Apr 13 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:49 | |
| techrights-news | Arduino News β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163694 | Apr 13 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino News | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:50 | |
| techrights-news | The openSUSE Annual Survey and SLE* Plans β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163695 | Apr 13 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The openSUSE Annual Survey and SLE* Plans | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:50 | |
| techrights-news | Todayβs ππΆπΉ ππ’π€π©πͺπ―π¦π΄ Leftovers β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163696 | Apr 13 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 13 21:50 | |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> the ideas is what they hate | Apr 13 21:53 |
| matey | yep | Apr 13 21:53 |
| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/gpxcq1t.mp4 | Apr 13 21:56 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: imgur.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/gpxcq1t.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/gpxcq1t.mp4 | Apr 13 21:56 | |
| matey | what he actually said about retrocomputing was | Apr 13 21:57 |
| matey | you could have as much fun doing something for free software and it would be more useful than doing retrocomputing | Apr 13 21:57 |
| matey | "you can have as much fun developing a free program that will do a job theres no free software for, as you could have by doing retrocomputer, and it will be a lot more useful" | Apr 13 21:59 |
| matey | s/retrocomputer/retrocomputing | Apr 13 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwA-6CWY6U | Apr 13 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=zSwA-6CWY6U | Apr 13 22:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> vid.puffyan.us | Here's Why Kias are Crap - Invidious | Apr 13 22:04 | |
| matey | he mentions lack of 32bit support as a problem | Apr 13 22:06 |
| matey | particularly with ubuntu, which of course is what the trisquel poseurs rely on for a base | Apr 13 22:07 |
| matey | maybe trisquel will go 64-bit only, lovely | Apr 13 22:07 |
| matey | when i was using gnu/linux, i tended to ignore distros that didnt support 32 bit (which also runs nicely on 64bit machines without using as much ram) | Apr 13 22:08 |
| matey | maybe trisquel will go 64-bit only, lovely <- its possible they will find a way around this | Apr 13 22:08 |
| activelow | if rms did say this, then i sign the anti-rms letter | Apr 13 22:09 |
| activelow | "you can have as much fun developing a free program that will do a job theres no free software for, as you could have by doing retrocomputer, and it will be a lot more useful" | Apr 13 22:09 |
| matey | if you sign the rms letter it will hurt your credibility. the letter is mostly lies. | Apr 13 22:09 |
| matey | if you hate something rms said, its better to just say what you hate about him | Apr 13 22:10 |
| matey | i hate his obsession with by-nd | Apr 13 22:10 |
| activelow | or better to say, i'll write an own letter, with reasons then, why such "opinion" is brainf**king developers | Apr 13 22:10 |
| MinceR | it's funny because if we get a fully free computer, it will likely have similarities to retrocomputing | Apr 13 22:10 |
| activelow | the retrocomputing is the starting point, to get rid off the distraction and misnomer of what's sold as "free software" | Apr 13 22:11 |
| matey | yeah if we had more people doing retrocomputing, more people would probably care about supporting older hardware | Apr 13 22:11 |
| matey | then he goes and complains that people arent supporting older hardware | Apr 13 22:12 |
| matey | HELLO! | Apr 13 22:12 |
| matey | its like he thinks human nature has an optimised compiler or something. | Apr 13 22:12 |
| matey | and people can just do every little thing right without the stupid reasons they usually do the right thing | Apr 13 22:12 |
| matey | when people do the right thing they often have a stupid reason for it | Apr 13 22:13 |
| matey | and hes like first, get rid of every stupid reason | Apr 13 22:13 |
| matey | and then do the best thing without the reason you would have done it anyway! | Apr 13 22:13 |
| activelow | can't wait to listen to it myself, to avoid any misunderstanding | Apr 13 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | heh. rms isn't into retro, so I'll sign some microsoft shitpost about rms being transphobic | Apr 13 22:13 |
| matey | dont waste your time with retrocomputing, we need support for old mach... | Apr 13 22:13 |
| MinceR | don't waste your time with retrocomputing, instead you should focus on retrocomputing | Apr 13 22:14 |
| matey | dont waste your time with free culture, make sure youre game assets have free licenses. | Apr 13 22:14 |
| matey | and make sure that your works of opinion are locked down tight with nd, but NOT drm | Apr 13 22:15 |
| matey | because drm is bad but shitty licenses help people not twist your words into smear campaigns. | Apr 13 22:15 |
| techrights-news | "Skyjake has written about TUI Lagrange. So we will have: iOS, Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux (GUI) and Linux (TUI) versions." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Apr 13 22:16 |
| matey | sorry folks, this email is all rights reserved, i guess you cant take it out of... oh | Apr 13 22:16 |
| matey | (most emails are all rights reserved, even on public mailing lists) | Apr 13 22:16 |
| matey | when he pushes nd hes pushing mythology | Apr 13 22:16 |
| SomeH4x0r | do I need to add "this mail is public domain" into my signature? | Apr 13 22:17 |
| techrights-news | This time for real getting started with using that Palm IIIxe gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-13-palm.gmi | Apr 13 22:17 |
| matey | do I need to add "this mail is public domain" into my signature? <- only if you want it to be public domain | Apr 13 22:17 |
| matey | by default its under copyright | Apr 13 22:17 |
| techrights-news | antenna treats relative feed urls as absolute, at least when given a dir wo slash gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-13-antenna.gmi | Apr 13 22:17 |
| SomeH4x0r | I will die at some point, maybe soon, anyway. It would be good if someone reimplements my identity in a bot using whatever means, if they care of course. | Apr 13 22:18 |
| matey | nd really never stops abuse at all. like drm, it really only hinders honest reuse. | Apr 13 22:18 |
| techrights-news | I do not know what to think of GitLab gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/13/what-to-think-of-gitlab/ upselling. | Apr 13 22:18 |
| activelow | nd meaning what? | Apr 13 22:18 |
| matey | cc licenses that have the no-derivs (nd) clause | Apr 13 22:18 |
| matey | cc by-nd, cc by-nc-nd | Apr 13 22:19 |
| matey | there is no nd-sa because nd doesnt allow relicensing so that would be redundant | Apr 13 22:19 |
| matey | if you think cc has too many licenses, they used to have more | Apr 13 22:19 |
| matey | and they deprecated some for being useless | Apr 13 22:19 |
| matey | mike linksvayer (then vp, now github) proposed deprecating both nc and nc licenses, so cc would become a free culture org | Apr 13 22:20 |
| matey | of course that failed. fucking shame. fuck cc too. | Apr 13 22:20 |
| SomeH4x0r | copyright is evil and I don't want to be involved in it | Apr 13 22:20 |
| matey | i still use cc0, cc-by and cc-by-sa, all of which are free licenses | Apr 13 22:20 |
| SomeH4x0r | I want my stuff to be distributed freely without stupid laws | Apr 13 22:21 |
| matey | the talk today included a cc by-sa work in a talk licensed by-nd, which is a license violation (of a copyleft license) | Apr 13 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Apr 13 22:21 |
| matey | the talk violated a gpl-compatible, copyleft license. | Apr 13 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | ted non-derivs | Apr 13 22:21 |
| SomeH4x0r | I don't take legal actions anyway | Apr 13 22:21 |
| matey | I want my stuff to be distributed freely without stupid laws <- your best options are cc0 or 0-clause bsd | Apr 13 22:22 |
| SomeH4x0r | and I would be annoyed if someone goes to jail because of some random code with wrong LICENSE file | Apr 13 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll have the talk ready in 30 mins | Apr 13 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah asked foe eta | Apr 13 22:22 |
| SomeH4x0r | what about WTFPL? | Apr 13 22:22 |
| SomeH4x0r | it lacks public domain attempt though | Apr 13 22:22 |
| matey | wtfpl is a really stupid propaganda license | Apr 13 22:22 |
| SomeH4x0r | meaning de jure still copyrighted afaik | Apr 13 22:22 |
| matey | which is nontheless gpl compatible | Apr 13 22:23 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163697 | Apr 13 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 13 22:23 | |
| matey | if you want it to be public domain your best bet is cc0 | Apr 13 22:23 |
| matey | by default it puts everything in the public domain | Apr 13 22:23 |
| matey | in finland thats not possible, so it gives the equivalent of public domain | Apr 13 22:24 |
| techrights-news | The Encyclopedia of Light β The Public Domain Review β https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/the-encyclopedia-of-light/ δ· Source: publicdomainreview | Apr 13 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | The Encyclopedia of Light β The Public Domain Review | Apr 13 22:24 | |
| SomeH4x0r | anyway, recently I was sending emails across three email addresses in hope of connecting the people together for working on similar stuff | Apr 13 22:25 |
| SomeH4x0r | and also to unrelated people for data backups | Apr 13 22:25 |
| matey | SomeH4x0r you can probably just put this in your sig: | Apr 13 22:26 |
| matey | License: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ | Apr 13 22:26 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ | Apr 13 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Creative Commons β CC0 1.0 Universal | Apr 13 22:26 | |
| matey | that should do it | Apr 13 22:26 |
| matey | its an actual public domain waiver | Apr 13 22:27 |
| matey | so unless they make it illegal to waive copyright, youre making it public domain-- no restrictions of any sort | Apr 13 22:27 |
| SomeH4x0r | I don't think these links are good idea. One day CC dies and the domain name gets acquired by unknown entity. | Apr 13 22:27 |
| matey | the actual license text is better | Apr 13 22:28 |
| matey | and much longer | Apr 13 22:28 |
| matey | you could also use the public domain dedication wikipedia has used before | Apr 13 22:28 |
| matey | its 2 or 3 lines of text and similar in effect to cc0, if less robust | Apr 13 22:28 |
| SomeH4x0r | do the cybersquatters get legal power over the licenses if they get the domain name? | Apr 13 22:29 |
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| SomeH4x0r | I also dislike "or any later version" in GPL, because FSF is under attack for a long time. | Apr 13 22:30 |
| matey | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Donate_to_the_public_domain | Apr 13 22:30 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: wikimedia.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Donate_to_the_public_domain https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Donate_to_the_public_domain | Apr 13 22:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commons.wikimedia.org | Commons:Donate to the public domain - Wikimedia Commons | Apr 13 22:30 | |
| matey | "I, the copyright holder of this work, release this work into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In some countries this may not be legally possible; if so: I grant anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law." | Apr 13 22:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | what if M$ takes over M$ and issues GPLv4 allowing abuse? | Apr 13 22:31 |
| matey | as an alternative to the cc0 link, you could use that text instead. | Apr 13 22:31 |
| matey | what if M$ takes over M$ and issues GPLv4 allowing abuse? <- i still consider this a remote, if increasingly valid concern. | Apr 13 22:31 |
| matey | but it is increasingly valid | Apr 13 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft is not gettingf stronger | Apr 13 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it only pretends | Apr 13 22:32 |
| SomeH4x0r | whoever else | Apr 13 22:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but Microsoft isn't the only GPL hater, either | Apr 13 22:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | so GPL can come under attacks by others | Apr 13 22:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | EUPL | Apr 13 22:32 |
| techrights-news | "Registration (in-person) is offered at the early price of $850 through April" to watch a webstream??? https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-linux-foundation-announces-1st-round-of-keynote-speakers-for-open-source-summit-north-america-2022-301525158.html | Apr 13 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | The Linux Foundation Announces 1st Round of Keynote Speakers for Open Source Summit North America 2022 | Apr 13 22:33 | |
| techrights-news | rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 13 22:34 |
| techrights-news | Upcoming FSF Workshops β’ Tux Machines β¨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163698 | Apr 13 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upcoming FSF Workshops | Tux Machines | Apr 13 22:34 | |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjzGQfFgtXk | Apr 13 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=pjzGQfFgtXk | Apr 13 22:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.bp.mutahar.rocks | Spanish Radio | Gabriel Iglesias - Invidious | Apr 13 22:39 | |
| matey | he makes it very clear in this talk that a travel agent (who already uses non-free software) using free software for you is NOT the same as using non-free software yourself | Apr 13 22:42 |
| matey | its better to have fewer people using non-free software, even if theyre using it for more people | Apr 13 22:43 |
| matey | or in terms that are easier to not scratch your head at | Apr 13 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He's good at doing voices. | Apr 13 22:43 |
| matey | its better to have 100 iphones in operation than 1000 iphones in operation | Apr 13 22:43 |
| matey | but he makes very clear this is his position | Apr 13 22:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He said he didn't vote in president elections. Why the heck not? | Apr 13 22:44 |
| matey | so if there are 10 people sharing one iphone thats better than 10 people with an iphone apiece | Apr 13 22:44 |
| XRevan86 | Heck, even I did every time I could, and that shit was doomed from the start. | Apr 13 22:44 |
| matey | /me can impersonate stallman while talking and singing | Apr 13 22:45 |
| MinceR | Β―\_(γ)_/Β― | Apr 13 22:45 |
| matey | JOIN US NOW AND STEAL THE SOFTWARE | Apr 13 22:45 |
| techrights-news | 651 COVID-19 Deaths Reported in the UK Today (63.4% Increase This Past Week Alone) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/13/covid19-death-toll/ | Apr 13 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Β» Blog Archive Β» 651 COVID-19 Deaths Reported in the UK Today (63.4% Increase This Past Week Alone) | Apr 13 22:45 | |
| matey | /me has sung the free software song outside the fsf office | Apr 13 22:45 |
| matey | (they were closed that day) | Apr 13 22:46 |
| MinceR | well, if people avoid using the proprietary travel agent software, that might send the message that that software is undesirable to use :> | Apr 13 22:46 |
| matey | (it was the only day i could go, so i thought what the hell, maybe someone will be there anyway) | Apr 13 22:46 |
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| matey | if people avoid using the proprietary travel agent software, that might send the message <- yeah | Apr 13 22:46 |
| matey | its still better to not use it at all | Apr 13 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | eta 11 mins | Apr 13 22:47 |
| bnchs__ | in his talk? | Apr 13 22:47 |
| bnchs__ | in this talk* | Apr 13 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i upload it | Apr 13 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | with our commentary etc. | Apr 13 22:47 |
| bnchs__ | chat history too? | Apr 13 22:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, it is shown | Apr 13 22:48 |
| matey | rms says that freeing society is the bigger goal | Apr 13 22:48 |
| bnchs__ | yes | Apr 13 22:48 |
| matey | and freeing yourself is something you can work on doing right now | Apr 13 22:48 |
| bnchs__ | even with the swastikas | Apr 13 22:48 |
| bnchs__ | and "nigger" walls | Apr 13 22:48 |
| matey | so until the travel agents use free software | Apr 13 22:48 |
| bnchs__ | leave them in | Apr 13 22:48 |
| matey | its better to have the travel agent use non-free software while you refuse to use it yourself | Apr 13 22:48 |
| matey | and when you do that, thats one more person using less free software | Apr 13 22:49 |
| matey | he clarifies that if your friend is trying to quit using non-free software, theyre not the ones you should ask to do it for you (this is obvious, but at least its clear) | Apr 13 22:51 |
| matey | its funny how similar this is to the idea of a shabbas goy. | Apr 13 22:51 |
| *mimorek (~mimorek@trhncgdin767n.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 13 22:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR | haha, true | Apr 13 22:52 |
| matey | in orthodox judaism you cant operate light switches because it violate the prohibition of making fire on shabbas | Apr 13 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't see the irony | Apr 13 22:52 |
| matey | but you can have any member of the goyim do it for you! because theyre not prohibited | Apr 13 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | "using proprietary stuff us unethical" | Apr 13 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | "so please do this for me" | Apr 13 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | *is | Apr 13 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5 mins | Apr 13 22:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 13 22:55 |
| matey | "using proprietary stuff us unethical" <- its important to note that he doesnt say using non-free software is unethical | Apr 13 22:56 |
| matey | WRITING and PUBLISHING non-free software is unethical | Apr 13 22:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, fair point | Apr 13 22:57 |
| matey | using non-free software mainly hurts the person doing it | Apr 13 22:57 |
| matey | hurting yourself isnt as much of an ethical issue, though its not recommended | Apr 13 22:57 |
| matey | so if someone is already doing that to themselves, asking them to do it for you isnt necessarily any worse | Apr 13 22:57 |
| matey | like the travel agent hasnt made any committment to get away from non-free software, so they can be the software goy | Apr 13 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 secs | Apr 13 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the tidying up a bit | Apr 13 22:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | β IPFS downstream, 60 mins: β ββββ βββ ββββ β βββ βββββ ββ β ββββ βββββ avg(k/sec) 18.50 β IPFS upstream: ββββββββββββββββββ βββββββββββββββββ avg(k/sec) 53.25β swarm size (avg): 353.10 β² | Apr 13 22:59 |
| techrights-news | Video of Richard Stallmanβs Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights β http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/ | βΎ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/ | Apr 13 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video of Richard Stallmanβs Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights | Apr 13 23:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: ^ | Apr 13 23:03 |
| matey | when its it possible to convert a cracker into a soup | Apr 13 23:06 |
| matey | when its a bisque kit :P | Apr 13 23:06 |
| matey | can you comment on the node ipc thing | Apr 13 23:07 |
| matey | he isnt familiar | Apr 13 23:07 |
| matey | im not familiar either unless theyre talking about the "protestware" thing that attacked users | Apr 13 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | then he rightly explains he's rather not comment | Apr 13 23:08 |
| matey | yes | Apr 13 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | *he'd | Apr 13 23:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | too busy reading bill's guardian | Apr 13 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and theor vaccine macrketing | Apr 13 23:09 |
| matey | unfortunately he thinks its a category of issue, rather than a single event | Apr 13 23:09 |
| matey | so his suggestion is technically useless | Apr 13 23:09 |
| mimorek | what happened to the colour in the videos? | Apr 13 23:10 |
| matey | the colour? | Apr 13 23:10 |
| mimorek | yes on techrights.org/videos | Apr 13 23:11 |
| mimorek | The latest posts are in gray | Apr 13 23:11 |
| matey | minute later he comments on the node ipc attack | Apr 13 23:11 |
| matey | <mimorek> The latest posts are in gray <- ah, thanks | Apr 13 23:12 |
| matey | "i think that was really nasty" is his take on node ipc attack | Apr 13 23:12 |
| mimorek | http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/ <- This one too | Apr 13 23:12 |
| matey | im inclined to agree | Apr 13 23:12 |
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| matey | "its not as if this was being done to a war criminal, you know. it could be anybody in russia!" | Apr 13 23:13 |
| matey | "it could be anybody in belarus" | Apr 13 23:13 |
| matey | "so that was not a good thing to do " | Apr 13 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I grabbed the last three cans of Gumout Multi-System from Walmart's site. For some reason you just can't find it now. | Apr 13 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to run a can in each tank for the next three tanks and see if that can clean up some of the crud in the engine from when that lady had the car sitting so I don't need a high pressure fuel system cleaner that the car runs on. | Apr 13 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Too much work or money. | Apr 13 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | I just put new iridium plugs and new spark plug wires on it. | Apr 13 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | That woke it up. | Apr 13 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | That alternator looks like, almost brand new. | Apr 13 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering if the original failed and someone's already replaced it. | Apr 13 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's a Delco alternator but it looks new. | Apr 13 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I figured out what's causing the electrical glitch in the Impala. It's a corroded fuse box. The part's like $500. | Apr 13 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | But the starter motor is growling sometimes. So it's going to need a rebuilt starter motor shortly. | Apr 13 23:17 |
| matey | using non-free software isnt unethical, but many users pressuring each other to use non-free software isnt something you should do | Apr 13 23:18 |
| matey | ^ from the q&a | Apr 13 23:18 |
| matey | regarding games that people play online | Apr 13 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> using non-free software isnt unethical, but many users pressuring each other to use non-free software isnt something you should do | Apr 13 23:18 |
| matey | daemonfc: im relaying things from the rms talk | Apr 13 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Using non-free software _is_ unethical if it produces data output that can only be used with non-free software. | Apr 13 23:19 |
| matey | Using non-free software _is_ unethical if it produces data output that can only be used with non-free software. <- interesting | Apr 13 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Because that puts the non-free software at an advantage, being that you need the software to read the data again. | Apr 13 23:19 |
| matey | whats an example of data that can only be used with non-free software? | Apr 13 23:19 |
| matey | sure | Apr 13 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Correctly? For sure? Microsoft Office formats. | Apr 13 23:20 |
| matey | hmm | Apr 13 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | The only decent quality AAC coder is Apple's and proliferating the format will pressure people to use the best encoder for their own files, and install iTunes. | Apr 13 23:20 |
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| DaemonFC | RAR files aren't documented and The Unarchiver is no longer Free software. | Apr 13 23:21 |
| matey | yeah ive hated rar forever | Apr 13 23:21 |
| matey | the main feature seems to be incompatibility | Apr 13 23:21 |
| matey | there might be some gains in compression that probably arent even relevant anymore | Apr 13 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Various media codecs have Free software implementations, but further pressure users into paying for patent licenses and product that use those patents. | Apr 13 23:21 |
| matey | a pushover license doesnt do harm, it just fails to to do good | Apr 13 23:23 |
| matey | ^ q&a | Apr 13 23:23 |
| matey | s/to to/to | Apr 13 23:24 |
| bnchs__ | unrar is non-free | Apr 13 23:24 |
| techrights-news | Atletico Brutes. Out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yPPBPzMl4s | Apr 13 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=8yPPBPzMl4s | Apr 13 23:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=8yPPBPzMl4s ) | Apr 13 23:27 | |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube drm? | Apr 13 23:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "The uploader has not made this video available in your country" | Apr 13 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | LOL | Apr 13 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.facebook.com/reel/5144988592219423/?s=ifu | Apr 13 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://m.facebook.com/reel/5144988592219423/?s=ifu&_rdr ) | Apr 13 23:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 'corporate 4chan' UIRL | Apr 13 23:28 |
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| techrights-news | xkcd: Weird Unicode Math Symbols β https://xkcd.com/2606/ δ· Source: xkcd | Apr 13 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Weird Unicode Math Symbols | Apr 13 23:29 | |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: xkcd.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2606/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2606/ | Apr 13 23:29 | |
| techrights-news | Means of more surveillance https://www.maketecheasier.com/imei-number/ | Apr 13 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Everything You Should Know About Your IMEI Number - Make Tech Easier | Apr 13 23:30 | |
| techrights-news | Emacs Has Builtin Chat :) Those Other IDEs Donβt :( - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UCIp2mY5Qyk δ· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 13 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Emacs Has Builtin Chat :) Those Other IDEs Don't :( - Invidious | Apr 13 23:30 | |
| matey | "The uploader has not made this video available in your country <- the first time i saw this i deleted my account | Apr 13 23:30 |
| MinceR | s/IDEs/OS-es/ | Apr 13 23:30 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Apr 13 23:31 |
| techrights-news | Shill? Valve-paid? A dock, a charging cradle, and more! 3D printing your Steam Deck accessories! - Invidious β https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6surEoZ6lY0 δ· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 13 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | A dock, a charging cradle, and more! 3D printing your Steam Deck accessories! - Invidious | Apr 13 23:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: stop being from this country!!! | Apr 13 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | (geoblocking) | Apr 13 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | all about business model of discrimination | Apr 13 23:32 |
| matey | just another thing to hate about hungary | Apr 13 23:32 |
| matey | "it cant view this video i want to see either" | Apr 13 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | or-BANNED | Apr 13 23:32 |
| matey | The uploader has not made this video available unless you shell out additional money for a VPN. | Apr 13 23:33 |
| techrights-news | Lumencraft blends top-down shooting, Tower Defense and a destructible environment | GamingOnLinux β https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/lumencraft-blends-top-down-shooting-tower-defense-and-a-destructible-environment/ δ· Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 13 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumencraft blends top-down shooting, Tower Defense and a destructible environment | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 23:33 | |
| techrights-news | "No Man's Sky, a Steam Deck Verified title that also works great on Linux desktops with Steam Play Proton recently got another massive free update." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/no-mans-sky-got-a-huge-outlaws-update-and-works-well-on-steam-deck/ | Apr 13 23:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No Man's Sky got a huge 'Outlaws' update and works well on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 23:34 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag free-riding the devs https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/google-detail-more-on-how-steam-on-chrome-os-works-with-linux/ gulag for profit. | Apr 13 23:34 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/google-detail-more-on-how-steam-on-chrome-os-works-with-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/google-detail-more-on-how-steam-on-chrome-os-works-with-linux/ | Apr 13 23:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google detail more on how Steam on Chrome OS works with Linux | GamingOnLinux | Apr 13 23:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Welcome to another Godot showcase interview! This time, we interviewed Leszek Nowak from 2DynamicGames about their latest release Lumencraft." https://godotengine.org/article/godot-showcase-2dynamic-games-lumencraft | Apr 13 23:36 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: godotengine.org | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/godot-showcase-2dynamic-games-lumencraft https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/godot-showcase-2dynamic-games-lumencraft | Apr 13 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Godot Showcase - Lumencraft developer talks about his experience | Apr 13 23:36 | |
| techrights-news | A couple of hours ago the talk/speech of Richard Stallman had ended (the Q&A sessions as well) and we uploaded a video that contains the whole talk (sans the Q&A) with IRC commentary http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/ | Apr 13 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video of Richard Stallmanβs Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights | Apr 13 23:37 | |
| matey | stallman has written a manual for gnu c | Apr 13 23:41 |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/13/cute-spiders/ | Apr 13 23:41 |
| -AltLink_b60/#techrights-π£ CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | π Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/13/cute-spiders/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/13/cute-spiders/ | Apr 13 23:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 35 Cute Spiders That Even An Arachnophobe Would Like | Apr 13 23:41 | |
| matey | businesses will direct you towards wasteful consumption | Apr 13 23:45 |
| matey | and if they have less control over you, then you can stay away | Apr 13 23:45 |
| matey | ^ from the q&a | Apr 13 23:45 |
| matey | also true if you make gnu less bloated | Apr 13 23:45 |
| matey | then you can compile it faster (and run it more nicely) on older machines, instead of just getting the latest one | Apr 13 23:46 |
| matey | he claims trisquel is derived directly from debian, but i dont think thats true | Apr 13 23:47 |
| matey | its derived from ubuntu, not debian | Apr 13 23:47 |
| matey | and if its derived from debian directly, it doesnt include sysvinit as an option (but i think debian does) | Apr 13 23:48 |
| matey | when trisquel was (is) ubuntu-based, you could replace systemd with upstart | Apr 13 23:48 |
| matey | ubuntu no longer has upstart, nor does trisquel | Apr 13 23:48 |
| matey | maybe trisquel is moving to debian because of snap or something, but i havent heard about this (and i doubt it) | Apr 13 23:49 |
| matey | oh i misheard | Apr 13 23:49 |
| matey | he didnt say "derived directly" | Apr 13 23:49 |
| matey | he said "derived INdirectly" | Apr 13 23:49 |
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| matey | so the lieplanet safe space policy jurisdiction applies to ALL PUBLIC fsf events | Apr 13 23:58 |
| matey | not just lieplanet | Apr 13 23:58 |
| matey | which includes this streaming talk rms does | Apr 13 23:58 |
| matey | so i suppose the kind guidelines are for internal/mailing list use only | Apr 13 23:59 |
| bnchs__ | lol | Apr 13 23:59 |
| bnchs__ | safe space policy | Apr 13 23:59 |
| bnchs__ | didn't prevent the 4chan trolls | Apr 13 23:59 |
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