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| schestowitz | MinceR: worth doing a post with this video? | Aug 23 00:09 |
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| schestowitz | it's not a large file | Aug 23 00:09 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Aug 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | is blender on github yet? | Aug 23 00:12 |
| schestowitz | yuck https://github.com/blender | Aug 23 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blender · GitHub | Aug 23 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | how long have they been on it? | Aug 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | anyone knows how to check? | Aug 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | account's age? | Aug 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | oldest changes I see are 6 months ago | Aug 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | 2016 https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Python-Moves-To-GitHub | Aug 23 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Python Is Moving From Mercurial To GitHub - Phoronix | Aug 23 00:17 | |
| schestowitz | tried many search along the lines of blender "changes to github" | Aug 23 00:18 |
| schestowitz | can't find any | Aug 23 00:18 |
| schestowitz | they got money from Microsof recrntly | Aug 23 00:18 |
| schestowitz | then Unity (Mono) | Aug 23 00:18 |
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| kingoffrance | https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/1003590417848455168?lang=en | Aug 23 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists - who wan… https://t.co/RYfRCMBtob | Aug 23 01:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists - who wan… https://t.co/RYfRCMBtob | Aug 23 01:05 | |
| kingoffrance | seems they were avoiding it ... | Aug 23 01:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jlboul/status/1297210385280507908 | Aug 23 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jlboul: @schestowitz Heard one national networking report apparently quoting Russian doctor who alleged said Mr. Navalny co… https://t.co/a4ydKzSmTs | Aug 23 01:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Heard one national networking report apparently quoting Russian doctor who alleged said Mr. Navalny could have also suffered from low blood sugar possibly. I am not making this up." | Aug 23 01:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/1003610646611709957 | Aug 23 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: FYI: Blender has its code on https://t.co/DMlFnFFFZH and developer services on https://t.co/8so7sjjoku - we already… https://t.co/28vMkZ435E | Aug 23 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | "FYI: Blender has its code on http://git.blender.org and developer services on http://developer.blender.org - we already host our own services since 2002." | Aug 23 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> git.blender.org | Aug 23 01:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> developer.blender.org | Home | Aug 23 01:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: FYI: Blender has its code on https://t.co/DMlFnFFFZH and developer services on https://t.co/8so7sjjoku - we already… https://t.co/28vMkZ435E | Aug 23 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | Let's check if it's still there | Aug 23 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.blender.org | Aug 23 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | http://git.blender.org/gitweb/ | Aug 23 01:09 |
| schestowitz | it is still being updated there | Aug 23 01:09 |
| schestowitz | let me check this corresponds to what's on github in terms of changes | Aug 23 01:09 |
| schestowitz | last changes 2-4 weeks ago | Aug 23 01:10 |
| kingoffrance | Oct 11 2019 is date of: https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/B/browse/master/.github/stale.yml that reads like it tells github to close any issues because development happens elsewhere | Aug 23 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | stale.yml · rB | Aug 23 01:10 | |
| kingoffrance | i dunno if it went back and forth or what... | Aug 23 01:10 |
| schestowitz | now Microsoft pays tjem | Aug 23 01:10 |
| schestowitz | and then unity (mono) | Aug 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/influence-for-sale-to-microsoft/ | Aug 23 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Turn Away From Microsoft Money (Influence for Sale) | Techrights | Aug 23 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | I wonder what strings are attached to this money | Aug 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | http://git.blender.org/gitweb/ | Aug 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | some updated hours ago | Aug 23 01:12 |
| schestowitz | or even minutes | Aug 23 01:12 |
| kingoffrance | https://developer.blender.org/T37592 circa 2013 looks like they rejected such a mirror | Aug 23 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | ⚓ T37592 Repository mirror on github and gitorious | Aug 23 01:12 | |
| schestowitz | so to be fair, for now it seems like they grasp selfhosting's importance | Aug 23 01:12 |
| schestowitz | kingoffrance: thanks for finding it | Aug 23 01:12 |
| schestowitz | we need to watch what happens next | Aug 23 01:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has a history of bribing projects to defect to their shithub monopolt | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "helping" them | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/blender | Aug 23 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blender · GitHub | Aug 23 01:13 | |
| kingoffrance | "I think so. When we moved to phabricator we had some requests about this but haven't seen anything since. Probably not worth the hassle of maintaining this and dealing with the fact that github doesn't let you disable pull requests, unless a very good reason comes up." well at some point the mirror did happen i guess, but not that ticket | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "This is an official read-only mirror. " | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | I gope it says that way | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "Official mirror of Blender " | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "This is an official read-only mirror. " | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | some do not say this | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | the repos | Aug 23 01:13 |
| schestowitz | we might want to check again in a number of months | Aug 23 01:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft can say, 'we pay you, but you offend us" | Aug 23 01:14 |
| schestowitz | and then push our people who resist the shithub prison | Aug 23 01:14 |
| schestowitz | Issues discussed in their own domain https://git.blender.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi/blender-studio.git | Aug 23 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.blender.org - blender-studio.git/summary | Aug 23 01:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Some mirror LAME in github, but they still use CVS on Sourceforge. | Aug 23 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/us/asteroid-earth-november-2020-scn-trnd/index.html | Aug 23 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asteroid heading our way right before Election Day - CNN | Aug 23 01:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | CNN desperate for news. | Aug 23 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "6.5 feet in diameter" | Aug 23 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 23 01:22 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 23 01:34 |
| schestowitz | like the Orange one | Aug 23 01:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe the aliens sent a "thetan-based" clone of Trump | Aug 23 01:34 |
| schestowitz | with "alien blood" | Aug 23 01:34 |
| schestowitz | we're getting more leaks w | Aug 23 01:37 |
| schestowitz | *now | Aug 23 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > The "let's gang up on RMS" gang | Aug 23 01:37 |
| schestowitz | let me think what and how I can present..... | Aug 23 01:37 |
| schestowitz | techrights will have some important stories tomorrow | Aug 23 01:37 |
| Narrator | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw | Aug 23 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alternative Math | Short Film - YouTube | Aug 23 01:41 | |
| Narrator | it's epic:) | Aug 23 01:42 |
| Narrator | this is genius | Aug 23 01:43 |
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| Narrator | i can tald that as a teacher in private school | Aug 23 01:47 |
| MinceR | https://d3gqasl9vmjfd8.cloudfront.net/0493b38c-bd48-4b3b-a963-6d5a32019e18.png | Aug 23 01:47 |
| Narrator | well, don't worry Trump win;-) | Aug 23 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/08/21/transocean-stock-crashes-28-on-bankruptcy-concerns/ | Aug 23 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Transocean Stock Crashes 28% on Bankruptcy Concerns | The Motley Fool | Aug 23 01:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Aug 23 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In less than a decade, the offshore oil sector has destroyed enormous amounts of investor capital." | Aug 23 01:51 |
| kingoffrance | that was a real thing Narrator | Aug 23 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good. | Aug 23 01:51 |
| kingoffrance | because 2x + 2x = ? you see theres magical hidden "x" "2 of what" .....which is great, but if you are doing this kind of magic, you need to make some rules, and mathmaticians will probably love you....but you have to formalize it, not just spring it on people randomly and pretend you are clever | Aug 23 01:51 |
| kingoffrance | "2" alone is abstract | Aug 23 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/14/simon-authentic-brands-to-buy-bankrupt-lucky-brand-for-140point1-million.html | Aug 23 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Simon, Authentic Brands to buy bankrupt Lucky Brand for $140.1 million | Aug 23 01:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Simon is buying its mall tenants while it's not clear that the mall is sustainable, period, and they skip their own mortgage payments. | Aug 23 01:52 |
| kingoffrance | and thats why math is generally useful, because its abstract | Aug 23 01:52 |
| kingoffrance | so if you take that away...then it probably wont be as generally useful | Aug 23 01:53 |
| kingoffrance | but may be better at specific cases | Aug 23 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/why-are-companies-battling-snatch-bankrupt-retailers-they-want-your-n1237168 | Aug 23 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Why are companies battling to snatch up bankrupt retailers? They want your data. | Aug 23 01:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Today I learned, that Pier 1 Imports had $31 million worth of "Intellectual Property". | Aug 23 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And here I thought they just sold gaudy shit for "Marisol" to put on display in the foyer. | Aug 23 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Such that it is. | Aug 23 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Never really understood why ticky tacky suburb houses needed a room whose purpose was to waste space before you went into another room. | Aug 23 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXvLg2vy8lA the foyer is where you keep the triforce | Aug 23 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Link's Yardsale - YouTube | Aug 23 01:56 | |
| MinceR | '2' + '2' | Aug 23 01:56 |
| MinceR | = '22' | Aug 23 01:56 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Mozilla ‘s Incredible Speech-To-Text Engine Is At Risk Following Layoffs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141261 [https://pleroma.site/objects/45a4b3e5-12b0-423f-b8d9-d86b8a63172c] | Aug 23 01:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Customer data — including emails, addresses, purchase history, income, phone numbers — have become invaluable in the age of e-commerce, according to Toubassy. Market researchers sell databases full of customer demographic data in a particular market for millions of dollars, but those lists do not come with an existing relationship that may have taken decades for a retailer to nurture, he said." | Aug 23 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In other words, they've been spying on you and that may be their only remaining asset in the bankruptcy sale. | Aug 23 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say that spending this sort of money for that kind of data is dicey though. | Aug 23 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The recession has made many people unemployed. Many more took a big cut in income. | Aug 23 01:58 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141260 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f88e0576-d660-450d-bbcf-4be6ceb36170] | Aug 23 01:59 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "More than 90 percent of S&P 500 companies’ market value is in their intellectual property and what are called intangible assets, a reversal from roughly 25 years ago, according to a July report from the intellectual property advisory firm Ocean Tomo. That figure is likely to increase in a post-coronavirus world as more businesses slough off expensive real estate and burdensome leases and focus on furthering their | Aug 23 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | digital capacities through restructuring, the company said." | Aug 23 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Horrifying. | Aug 23 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: ^ | Aug 23 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 90% of their value is decreed by law and a figment of someone's imagination. | Aug 23 02:01 |
| MinceR | she should have said "it's $20002000!" | Aug 23 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No wonder they don't want people using cash. | Aug 23 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they're constantly selling the data they have on their customers, they're worth so much more than the credit card interchange fees. | Aug 23 02:03 |
| MinceR | 23 025152 < kingoffrance> "2" alone is abstract | Aug 23 02:04 |
| MinceR | what's the problem with that? | Aug 23 02:04 |
| Narrator | if we start don;t use the cash the cash wil be cheap;-) | Aug 23 02:05 |
| schestowitz | [02:01] <DaemonFC[m]> 90% of their value is decreed by law and a figment of someone's imagination. | Aug 23 02:05 |
| schestowitz | told you | Aug 23 02:06 |
| schestowitz | now think of all those GAFAM giants that they tell us are worth like 10 trillion | Aug 23 02:06 |
| schestowitz | cut that by 90% | Aug 23 02:06 |
| schestowitz | and you get roughly their real value | Aug 23 02:06 |
| schestowitz | [02:05] <Narrator> if we start don;t use the cash the cash wil be cheap;-) | Aug 23 02:07 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much of that 10% comes from state-enforced monopolies :> | Aug 23 02:07 |
| schestowitz | we always pay with cash | Aug 23 02:07 |
| schestowitz | so all those data grabs will not give much on us | Aug 23 02:07 |
| schestowitz | also not carrying around location tracking boxen [sic] | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | but... | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Internet history is a tricky one | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | esp. for those who browser dodgy things | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | like pr0n sites that can be used for shaming/blackmail | Aug 23 02:08 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: that's another angle an issue | Aug 23 02:08 |
| MinceR | microshit wouldn't be worth much if they couldn't enforce copyrights and the x86 cartel couldn't enforce patents | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | see jEDI | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | that is borrowed money | Aug 23 02:08 |
| schestowitz | taxpayers will need to make up the diff | Aug 23 02:09 |
| schestowitz | austerity, estate sales.. | Aug 23 02:09 |
| schestowitz | gates knows msft might have its days numbered | Aug 23 02:09 |
| schestowitz | defected to vaccine profiteering for now | Aug 23 02:09 |
| schestowitz | the sick man | Aug 23 02:09 |
| schestowitz | just wanting more and more money | Aug 23 02:10 |
| MinceR | and more leverage | Aug 23 02:10 |
| MinceR | and more control over other people's lives | Aug 23 02:10 |
| schestowitz | The only reason Corporate Media keeps giving a platform to squeaky-voiced Bill ("Bill thinks", "Bill says") despite lack of qualifications is that he bribes this media. He's neither articulate nor speaks many languages. | Aug 23 02:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: war on cash, too | Aug 23 02:10 |
| schestowitz | they start with India | Aug 23 02:10 |
| schestowitz | vaccines kicking off on black people | Aug 23 02:10 |
| schestowitz | human subjects | Aug 23 02:10 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_subject_research | Aug 23 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human subject research - Wikipedia | Aug 23 02:11 | |
| schestowitz | thankfully more people now grasp this | Aug 23 02:11 |
| schestowitz | and speak about it to one another | Aug 23 02:11 |
| schestowitz | and gates blocks all comments now, I heard | Aug 23 02:11 |
| schestowitz | and wants to ban talking | Aug 23 02:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Aug 23 02:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Aug 23 02:11 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/3-arrested-after-woman-beaten-robbed-in-lincoln-park/ | Aug 23 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | 3 arrested after woman beaten, robbed in Lincoln Park | WGN-TV | Aug 23 02:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The news did not comment about the race of the three yoots. | Aug 23 02:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the woman they injured did decline medical debt. | Aug 23 02:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (My Cousin Vinny reference. Where Joe Pesci as the lawyer says yoots, and the judge goes "What....is a yoot?") | Aug 23 02:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 23 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think my favorite part was where Pesci tells his girlfriend "The lady at the court just handed me the state's case. Can you believe that shit?". | Aug 23 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She goes, "Yeah,, it's called discovery you moron! They have to give you everything they know!". | Aug 23 02:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Everything I paid for a legal defense and the fine and probation and whatnot went into the bankruptcy. | Aug 23 02:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I had outstanding medical bills from when Austin beat me up 10 days prior so while I was filling out my bankruptcy schedules, I added "Village of Fox Lake - Fire and Rescue" "Ambulance ride" "$1,200". | Aug 23 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got another one of those weird calls that came up all 000s today, they left a voicemail that was just noise. | Aug 23 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I want one of the people I filed bankruptcy against to bother me about it again. | Aug 23 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Please fuck this up so I can destroy you." | Aug 23 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It would be funnier than hell if Fox Lake sent me another copy of the ambulance bill in the middle of this and got their village a $20,000 fine from the bankruptcy court. | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | so they give you medical bills | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | for pills that cause you a seizure | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | then you collapse in the shower | Aug 23 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which they billed me for. | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | get rushed to ER | Aug 23 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes! | Aug 23 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They did. | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | and forced to pay medical bills again, $3000 | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | medical garage sale | Aug 23 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I threw the hospital debt from 2009, the seizures, in the bankruptcy. | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | break something, it comes back for more | Aug 23 02:22 |
| schestowitz | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/curing-disease-not-a-sustainable-business-model-goldman-sachs-analysts-say/ | Aug 23 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | “Is curing patients a sustainable business model?” Goldman Sachs analysts ask | Ars Technica | Aug 23 02:23 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It came out to $12,500 from 3 hours in the ER, along with $550 that the ER doctor billed separately, and then about $2,000 for an MRI. | Aug 23 02:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/a27ora/goldman_sachs_asks_in_biotech_research_report_is/ | Aug 23 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Goldman Sachs asks in biotech research report: 'Is curing patients a sustainable business model?' : technology | Aug 23 02:23 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 23 02:23 |
| schestowitz | 2k for mri? | Aug 23 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had to file bankruptcy against 3 different places for that, and 3 separate collection agencies. | Aug 23 02:23 |
| schestowitz | so they can pay for the equipment in like a few months | Aug 23 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, total bankruptcy was about $100,000. | Aug 23 02:24 |
| schestowitz | wow | Aug 23 02:24 |
| schestowitz | what a cartel surrounds you... | Aug 23 02:24 |
| schestowitz | they mine your data | Aug 23 02:24 |
| schestowitz | they steal your salary | Aug 23 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | About $20,000 was the Kia. About $45,000 was credit cards, I think. | Aug 23 02:24 |
| schestowitz | later they wonder why people riot | Aug 23 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The rest was an assortment of hospital bills, doctor bills, and like 5-6 apartment leases that I left owing money. | Aug 23 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I been a bad boy. | Aug 23 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, the bankruptcy court ripped up about $100,000 of debt accumulated over 19 years. | Aug 23 02:25 |
| MinceR | bad boys are popular | Aug 23 02:25 |
| schestowitz | [02:25] <DaemonFC[m]> I been a bad boy. | Aug 23 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Now come meet Rich | Aug 23 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Rick | Aug 23 02:26 |
| schestowitz | and Bill | Aug 23 02:26 |
| schestowitz | the "good boy" | Aug 23 02:26 |
| schestowitz | who pillaged 150 nations | Aug 23 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No thanks. I don't like getting peed on and I'm not 11 years old. | Aug 23 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't think I'm their type. | Aug 23 02:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 23 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm also not a dog or a chicken. | Aug 23 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Hey, why did Rick Jones cross the road? | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | we need to see their court docs | Aug 23 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because his dick was stuck in the chicken. | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | I doubt a foreigner can buy those | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | it would trigger suspicion | Aug 23 02:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | TBH: | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | I thought about it... | Aug 23 02:27 |
| MinceR | Why did the dead baby cross the road? | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | to attempt to expunge or alter COURT docs | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | would be risky | Aug 23 02:27 |
| MinceR | Because it was stapled to the chicken. | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | as someone might detect such efforts | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | or worse, blow the whistle | Aug 23 02:27 |
| schestowitz | so the attempt itself can highlight another scandal | Aug 23 02:28 |
| schestowitz | or when you kill a witness | Aug 23 02:28 |
| schestowitz | or attempt to bribe | Aug 23 02:28 |
| schestowitz | risk of this attempt leaking out | Aug 23 02:28 |
| schestowitz | so best approach is distract, distract, distract, distract, distract... | Aug 23 02:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: they love animals | Aug 23 02:29 |
| schestowitz | who doesn't? | Aug 23 02:29 |
| schestowitz | but not in the bestiality sense | Aug 23 02:29 |
| schestowitz | they also insist they love kids | Aug 23 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Chicken Fucker episode of South Park. | Aug 23 02:30 |
| schestowitz | many "foundation" photo ops with kids | Aug 23 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Now kids, they prefer to be called chicken lovers!" | Aug 23 02:30 |
| schestowitz | bill is micro and soft enough so you can't see boners :) | Aug 23 02:30 |
| schestowitz | the whole epstein investigation makes a new market for lawyers | Aug 23 02:31 |
| schestowitz | high-paid lawyers | Aug 23 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Community made fun of that. | Aug 23 02:31 |
| MinceR | well, there are many people who won't even eat animals | Aug 23 02:31 |
| schestowitz | all they need to say is, "my client... nothing something... absolurely false" | Aug 23 02:31 |
| schestowitz | even the 'royal' family becomes a "big client" | Aug 23 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Remember that time you got drunk and tried to order chalupas out of the police emergency call box on the toll road?" | Aug 23 02:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: except microorganisms | Aug 23 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John Oliver: "And you convinced them that my only crime was loving America!" | Aug 23 02:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/simsy1977/status/1297248760490336257 | Aug 23 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@simsy1977: @DeanParise Yeah I know his foundation seems to be funding everything at the moment almost so they can control the official narrative | Aug 23 02:34 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah I know his foundation seems to be funding everything at the moment almost so they can control the official narrative" | Aug 23 02:34 |
| kingoffrance | there was an old chase bank IIRC basically saying u.s. is an oligarchy, so heres how you should invest | Aug 23 02:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeanParise/status/1297249712114991107 | Aug 23 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeanParise: @simsy1977 Yes. He funds the media, WHO, pharma companies and health officials. It is up to the citizen investigat… https://t.co/TYpcfgdguF | Aug 23 02:34 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes. He funds the media, WHO, pharma companies and health officials. It is up to the citizen investigative journalists to expose this because Gates is trying to make himself bulletproof..." | Aug 23 02:34 |
| kingoffrance | dont have a link handy, sorry. it was an internal doc | Aug 23 02:34 |
| kingoffrance | 2000s-201x-ish | Aug 23 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US can defund the WHO and it will hurt them pretty bad. | Aug 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't count as an impoundment as long as the president spends it on some sort of international organization because it's not earmarked specifically for the WHO. | Aug 23 02:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If we skip our second payment this year, they'll be down 11% of their total budget and if we skip all of next year, they'll be down 22%. | Aug 23 02:36 |
| kingoffrance | so that goldman sachs thing is basically what they were already saying perhaps | Aug 23 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really don't see how in the fuck we should be paying $1 billion to something so useless during a national crisis where they flat out lied to us and claim to still know nothing about the virus. | Aug 23 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If those fags and other assorted idiots in Europe want to help China fund it, let em. | Aug 23 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure their assessment of $2 billion a year until Putin invades the EU will be well spent. | Aug 23 02:37 |
| MinceR | why, can't red china pay the WHO in uhmerica's place? | Aug 23 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can! | Aug 23 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Let them have it. | Aug 23 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We absolutely should not give them money and let them pretend it's anything but a Chinese Communist Party mouth piece. | Aug 23 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody really likes the United Nations. | Aug 23 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing that they're good for is accumulating parking tickets and raping people in NYC and claiming they're diplomats. | Aug 23 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Defund the entire UN! | Aug 23 02:39 |
| MinceR | seconded | Aug 23 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Again, not our circus, not our monkeys. | Aug 23 02:39 |
| MinceR | let the fucking WIPO die | Aug 23 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US isn't getting anything from the UN. The Security Council is even broken beyond repair. | Aug 23 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't introduce anything and not have someone veto it. | Aug 23 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The UK even walked out on us recently. | Aug 23 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, the people who were glad to throw their lives and money away in Iraq and Afghanistan so they could have some member berries regarding Colonialism. | Aug 23 02:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The UK has been even more of a tragicomedy this century so far than the United States has. | Aug 23 02:43 |
| MinceR | member berries? | Aug 23 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | South Park reference. They're these berries that remind people of things they used to like or when things were better for them. | Aug 23 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have a fondness for Star Wars. | Aug 23 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're the reason everyone decided to vote for Mr. Garrison for president. | Aug 23 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though he'd say crazy things and his policy for immigrants was to literally fuck them all to death. | Aug 23 02:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 23 02:45 |
| kingoffrance | i thought the schnapps was pretty funny | Aug 23 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | During the campaign he realized that he was totally out of his league and tried to tell people "I will fuck your country up beyond repair. Vote for her. She at least has some experience. Trust me, she's not as bad as you think.". | Aug 23 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She says, "My opponent is a liar and cannot be trusted." over and over. | Aug 23 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's like "Oh fuck, oh fuck, why did it have to be her?". | Aug 23 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/21/commission-rejects-trump-fourth-debate-request-400001 | Aug 23 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Commission rejects Trump camp’s request to help broker a fourth debate with Biden - POLITICO | Aug 23 02:48 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump is trying to get more debates, but the commission says no. | Aug 23 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Generally, the candidate who is losing wants more debates. | Aug 23 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Biden is 10 points ahead in the national poll averages. | Aug 23 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're up 10 points generally you don't want more debates because the only place to go from there is down. | Aug 23 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hillary Clinton was only up by like 3.5 points in late August. | Aug 23 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And even that evaporated by election day, mostly because there were 10% that said undecided and many broke for Trump. | Aug 23 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now there's only 4% that say undecided and even if you gave them all to Trump, Biden's lead would still be about 6 points, at least nationally. | Aug 23 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone knows what they think about Trump, one way or the other. | Aug 23 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If he had it his way he'd try moving the election up, I think. | Aug 23 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because the longer it goes on, the more of his voters are dying of the virus and the less he can do to try to shore things up so it all falls apart after the vote. | Aug 23 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1,000+ Americans dying per day on average still. | Aug 23 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 33 more days before you can early vote in Illinois, 63 days until it starts in Florida. | Aug 23 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the mean time, you know, this thing is killing lots and lots of old people and it's putting the ones who haven't had it yet in a very bad mood. | Aug 23 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Biden's lead in Florida has gone from 1 point to 8 points on average in the last 4 months. | Aug 23 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, the whole network thing. | Aug 23 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're afraid to leave the house, it's killing them, it's putting them in the hospital. | Aug 23 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Almost all of them at least know someone else that got it. They blame Trump, mostly. | Aug 23 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think if anything we might be seeing some of them insist that they'll vote for Trump and then go in the polling booth and who know what they did. | Aug 23 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can go "Damned liberals!" and Trump will be gone and they can go on forever insisting on how they were right about Trump. | Aug 23 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We know it's killing more people in Florida than the state will ever admit. | Aug 23 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't even want to know. | Aug 23 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Republican voters are dumb and so are their leaders. The Trump administration had a report that leaked out saying they didn't plan to do anything about the virus because they figured it would stay in "Democrat cities". | Aug 23 02:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart gave everyone a bonus and then cut their hours. | Aug 23 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That hasn't changed. | Aug 23 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you get something, they take it away. | Aug 23 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I'm changing the cats over from the Iams orange bag to the blue bag. | Aug 23 04:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Says it controls hairballs better. | Aug 23 04:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Same price, still chicken and chicken byproduct as the first two ingredients. | Aug 23 04:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've never really been picky. I had to change both of them over to a bag of Rachel Ray cat food for a while because the food pantry got some in and said you could have it if you had cats. I wasn't going to turn up 16 pounds of free cat food. | Aug 23 04:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I don't know what all the hubbub is about all these "premium brand" retailers going under. | Aug 23 04:32 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 23 04:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got a half a dozen nice shirts on clearance at the Walmart for $5 each. (was $8.82) | Aug 23 04:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just wait for everything to go on clearance. I'm not a snob. | Aug 23 04:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually everything does go on clearance. | Aug 23 04:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they last a few years before there's holes in them that's as good as a similar shirt from the mall that costs $15 because you're at the mall. | Aug 23 04:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a stupid tax, is what it is. | Aug 23 04:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I get pajama pants when they say like $7, was $12. | Aug 23 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I get new shoes at the bargains in a box. They have a mistake on them somewhere, but how often do you look at a person's shoes? | Aug 23 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $6.99 for a pair | Aug 23 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Paying a lot of money for clothes is dumb. You can save money and still not look like an idiot. | Aug 23 04:36 |
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| schestowitz | [04:33] <DaemonFC[m]> Eventually everything does go on clearance. | Aug 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, we took advantage of some | Aug 23 05:47 |
| schestowitz | those "premium" department stores are ghost towns even with sales on | Aug 23 05:48 |
| schestowitz | occasionally you find 70% off on things, sometimes even lower | Aug 23 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they say. | Aug 23 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since everything in those stores is always on sale.... | Aug 23 05:48 |
| schestowitz | they lie a lot | Aug 23 05:48 |
| schestowitz | they mark it down | Aug 23 05:48 |
| schestowitz | and mention high% numbers | Aug 23 05:49 |
| schestowitz | but occasionally you do find dirt cheap things, such as "premium" for "normal" price | Aug 23 05:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used to shop at Sears for all my clothes. | Aug 23 05:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I realized that Walmart was cheaper and the stuff lasted just as long. | Aug 23 05:49 |
| schestowitz | either way, it's not worth the time unless you enjoy the shopping ambiance of whatnot | Aug 23 05:49 |
| schestowitz | *or | Aug 23 05:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, there's not much of that at Walmart. | Aug 23 05:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The low prices are the attraction. No fake sales. | Aug 23 05:50 |
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| schestowitz | but enough about fashion | Aug 23 05:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Eddie Lampert thought he was going to run Sears as a tech company and JC Penney tried to do it too. | Aug 23 05:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They did this stupid rewards program at Sears and KMart on the way out and I suppose that's one of those bankruptcy assets now. | Aug 23 05:51 |
| schestowitz | [02:39] <MinceR> let the fucking WIPO die | Aug 23 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Some people in WIPO die | Aug 23 05:52 |
| schestowitz | The good people | Aug 23 05:52 |
| schestowitz | suicides | Aug 23 05:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://wgntv.com/news/seattle-mayor-to-veto-city-councils-cuts-to-police-budget/ | Aug 23 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Seattle mayor to veto City Council’s cuts to police, budget | WGN-TV | Aug 23 05:52 | |
| schestowitz | I was going to remark on the biden debate thing... | Aug 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | but again, that's politics | Aug 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | pure politics | Aug 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I have some leaks... no, no urine/piss | Aug 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | documents about FOSS | Aug 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | we can work on them now, I'm going to be aware for ages | Aug 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz | wanna see ganging up on RMS? | Aug 23 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, schestowitz, it goes along with the saying. | Aug 23 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're explaining yourself, it means you're losing. | Aug 23 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump feels he needs to explain himself and wants more debates. | Aug 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz | whatever | Aug 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz | Biden won't cure the country | Aug 23 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It won't be a good explanation, but he thinks it will be. | Aug 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz | it can limit damage a little longer | Aug 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz | Bush already did drastic damage | Aug 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz | thd debt is HUGE | Aug 23 05:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Biden is going to have his hands full for the first couple of years. | Aug 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz | the debt of the whole UK is less than 10% the US debt | Aug 23 05:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just sending Trump's executive orders through the shredder. | Aug 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz | we passes 2 trillion pounds this past week | Aug 23 05:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With how many people? | Aug 23 05:56 |
| schestowitz | after all the stimulus to workers temporarily down and all that business aid | Aug 23 05:56 |
| schestowitz | 68 million | Aug 23 05:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What does it work out in balance? | Aug 23 05:56 |
| schestowitz | UK: 2.6 trillion dollars | Aug 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | US: 27 for 331m | Aug 23 05:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but taxes are higher too. | Aug 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | I worried when it was 12 | Aug 23 05:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Right? | Aug 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | after the major wars | Aug 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | it was already huge per capita | Aug 23 05:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, we hardly pay taxes at our income level. Payroll mostly at this point. | Aug 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | by that time's currency | Aug 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | you don't get free access to healthcare at any level, either | Aug 23 05:58 |
| schestowitz | we still have NHS | Aug 23 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sure you do. Walk away from it. LOL | Aug 23 05:58 |
| schestowitz | rianne and I both work | Aug 23 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: We're at just under the income level where they can garnish you for it. | Aug 23 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But that can change and judgments can go on for up to 27 years in some cases. | Aug 23 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I filed bankruptcy so I never had to worry about it again. | Aug 23 05:59 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I am not saying we in the UK are fine financially as a country... | Aug 23 05:59 |
| schestowitz | it has long not been the case | Aug 23 05:59 |
| schestowitz | but except maybe Greece you cannot find a country worse off than US | Aug 23 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I waited several years and just hid all the money from the creditors and filed anyway, then it would just be that many more years until I could file bankruptcy again if I had to. | Aug 23 06:00 |
| schestowitz | which is practically sold to its own "oligarchs" | Aug 23 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The clock is ticking, so I'll just try to avoid expensive medical debt until the clock runs out. | Aug 23 06:00 |
| schestowitz | who call themselves philanthropists | Aug 23 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "who call themselves philanthropi"> So does Bill Gates. | Aug 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz | let me ask you this | Aug 23 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why doesn't he donate $50 billion to the SNAP program or something? | Aug 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz | as I know many countries disallow personal bankruptcies | Aug 23 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He'd still have $50 billion. Right? :) | Aug 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz | what happens to lenders and borrowers? | Aug 23 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would be very philanthropic of him. | Aug 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz | if millions qualify for bankruptcy | Aug 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz | and if the lender gave out more than she/he had | Aug 23 06:01 |
| schestowitz | then the lender itself can go under, too | Aug 23 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "what happens to lenders and borr"> Well, they have no recourse to collect the debt. It's invalidated by order of a federal court. | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | how does that work? | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | [06:01] <DaemonFC[m]> Why doesn't he donate $50 billion to the SNAP program or something? | Aug 23 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can file bankruptcy too and liquidate I guess. | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | no "returns" on it | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: watch the video here: http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/covid19-profitable-for-bill-gates/ | Aug 23 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Pandemic Has Been Hugely Profitable for Bill Gates and It Helps Distract From His Epstein Mystery | Techrights | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mom asked what I'd do with a billion dollars. | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | bill speaks of vaccination like it's a Windows licence or something | Aug 23 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told her give most of it away and just find a nice quiet place to live out my life in comfort. | Aug 23 06:03 |
| schestowitz | no, tell her this | Aug 23 06:03 |
| schestowitz | as I would: | Aug 23 06:03 |
| schestowitz | "it would not happen" | Aug 23 06:03 |
| schestowitz | "because I am not greedy enough to pursue such money in the first place" | Aug 23 06:03 |
| schestowitz | "because those amounts of money are of no practical use" | Aug 23 06:03 |
| schestowitz | "unless I am sick in the head with God complex" | Aug 23 06:04 |
| schestowitz | some of the people who realise they will die with this money | Aug 23 06:04 |
| schestowitz | and that all it gets them is $1000 forks and spoons | Aug 23 06:04 |
| schestowitz | then start fulfilling weird sexual fetishes | Aug 23 06:04 |
| schestowitz | and hang out with a bunch of other sick-in-the-head weirdos | Aug 23 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You think that's how Rick Jones and Jeff Epstein came into the picture? | Aug 23 06:05 |
| schestowitz | so their recourses become as insane as themselves | Aug 23 06:05 |
| schestowitz | remember most people (not zuckerberg) become this rich only later in their lives | Aug 23 06:05 |
| schestowitz | with wrinkles, health issues etc. | Aug 23 06:05 |
| schestowitz | can't even run | Aug 23 06:06 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it is not impossible | Aug 23 06:06 |
| schestowitz | which is why I keep urging you to dig those court docs | Aug 23 06:06 |
| schestowitz | he has a dripping mouth | Aug 23 06:06 |
| schestowitz | drooling out stupid words | Aug 23 06:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $100 billion | Aug 23 06:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What WOULD you even do with that? | Aug 23 06:06 |
| schestowitz | you can say he's dumb enough to admit things he ought not | Aug 23 06:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: to impress even richer people | Aug 23 06:07 |
| schestowitz | unless you are "number one" among your class | Aug 23 06:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's 100,000 times more than anything I'd ever want to do would cost if I was 18 again. | Aug 23 06:07 |
| schestowitz | 100 thousand is enough for most things, food, health, basic needs, computers... | Aug 23 06:07 |
| schestowitz | being able to do this a million times over as a single human being can be confusing | Aug 23 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I just bittorrent whatever I want to watch or read. | Aug 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | you start collecting planes | Aug 23 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People pay $20 to read a book? LOL | Aug 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | which you cannot even use fast enough to get your money's worth | Aug 23 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A philanthropist would never have $100 billion because it's obscene. | Aug 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | lol https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-microsoft-staff-rally-to-remove-racially-insensitive-language-from-products/ | Aug 23 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM, Microsoft staff rally to remove racially insensitive language from products | ZDNet | Aug 23 06:09 | |
| schestowitz | because they love money | Aug 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | and won't depart from it | Aug 23 06:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are starving and you have $100 billion and instead of helping, you just pay CNN and NPR to say good things about you while you rip more people off. | Aug 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | unless it helps them make more of it | Aug 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | I ... think ... | Aug 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz | I won't even link to this zdnet BS | Aug 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz | no value on it | Aug 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz | *in it | Aug 23 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean if $100 billion landed on me and that was possible, I'd donate like 99.99% of it away immediately. | Aug 23 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Buy a nice cabin on the lake somewhere. | Aug 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz | we agree | Aug 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz | let's move on | Aug 23 06:10 |
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| schestowitz | I want to do the piece on osi and fsfe | Aug 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz | I could use your help | Aug 23 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought the FSFE might be less of a disaster than the FSF. | Aug 23 06:11 |
| schestowitz | no | Aug 23 06:11 |
| schestowitz | it's more.. "practical" | Aug 23 06:11 |
| schestowitz | as in... pro-monopolists | Aug 23 06:11 |
| schestowitz | it takes money from Microsoft | Aug 23 06:11 |
| schestowitz | (also Google etc.) | Aug 23 06:11 |
| schestowitz | and I have something to show | Aug 23 06:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is like those brain worms from the Wrath of Khan that burrow into the ear and make you do things. | Aug 23 06:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People think "Oh that's the FSF. They're authoritative!" and it's really a sockpuppet now. | Aug 23 06:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation_Latin_America | Aug 23 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Free Software Foundation Latin America - Wikipedia | Aug 23 06:12 | |
| schestowitz | worse in this case | Aug 23 06:12 |
| schestowitz | fsfsla is ok | Aug 23 06:12 |
| schestowitz | for all I know | Aug 23 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ah, it was FSFLA that did the kernel deblobber. | Aug 23 06:12 |
| schestowitz | not aware of self-made scandals | Aug 23 06:12 |
| schestowitz | yes, it's alex | Aug 23 06:12 |
| schestowitz | he's a good guy | Aug 23 06:13 |
| schestowitz | not everyone agrees with me on him | Aug 23 06:13 |
| schestowitz | but he and I have long thought alike | Aug 23 06:13 |
| schestowitz | let me show you the raw email | Aug 23 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I fixed up the wording of the Linux-Libre article on Wikipedia. | Aug 23 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some time ago. | Aug 23 06:14 |
| schestowitz | there are two mails | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Fwd: Joint Statement about "Free Software and Open Source Software" | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | The "let's gang up on RMS" gang | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | ====== | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | -------- Forwarded Message -------- | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Joint Statement about "Free Software and Open Source Software" | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:55:17 +0100 | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | From: Matthias Kirschner <mk@fsfe.org> | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | To: team@lists.fsfe.org | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Hello all, | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | after a discussion on the legal network mailing list, which resulted in | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | my blog post | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | http://k7r.eu/2-percent-discussion-free-software-or-open-source-software/ | Aug 23 06:15 |
| schestowitz | and then in longer discussions on | Aug 23 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-k7r.eu | Matthias Kirschner's Web log • The 2% discussion - "Free Software" or "Open Source Software" | Aug 23 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/discussion/2017-November/011994.html | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | and individual follow-up, Simon Phipps and I had the idea to use the | Aug 23 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fsfe.org | LWN article on Limux / WiMue and PMPC | Aug 23 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | upcmming 20th anniversary of the term "Open Source" on 9 February 2018 | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | for a joint statement. | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | We would clarify for newcomers that it is the same software. Encourage | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | everybody to work with others although they might use another | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | terminology. Show them that even organisations which use different terms | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | can work together. Simon is positive that he gets support by others in | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | OSI about that, and I thought that we will also agree on this, as it it | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | will be mainly a repetition of our official statement: | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | https://fsfe.org/freesoftware/basics/comparison.en.html (we might add | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | some arguments from my blog post above + parts of Simon's articles: | Aug 23 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Free Software, Open Source, FOSS, FLOSS - same same but different - FSFE | Aug 23 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://webmink.com/essays/causality/ | Aug 23 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Direct and Indirect Causality | Wild Webmink | Aug 23 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://meshedinsights.com/2017/06/07/free-vs-open/ ). | Aug 23 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meshedinsights.com | Free vs Open | Meshed Insights Ltd | Aug 23 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | I would continue to discuss that idea with Simon Phipps so we could get | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | such a statement ready in time, and get other organisations on board, | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | too. I'll share any text drafts here before. | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | Best Regards, | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | Matthias | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | ==== | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | I think we should publish this first | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | you will see why in a second | Aug 23 06:16 |
| schestowitz | Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It's Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) | Aug 23 06:18 |
| schestowitz | how's that for a headline | Aug 23 06:18 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 23 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For most practical purposes, Free and Open Source mean the same thing, but Open Source doesn't emphasize in making sure it stays available under the same terms. | Aug 23 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So any changes made under a proprietary license are simply useless to everyone else and lost forever if it gets discontinued. | Aug 23 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can also be turned against the user in all sorts of horrible and twisted ways, like Apple did to create macOS and iOS. | Aug 23 06:19 |
| schestowitz | yup | Aug 23 06:19 |
| schestowitz | go on.. | Aug 23 06:19 |
| schestowitz | I want more opinions on this | Aug 23 06:19 |
| schestowitz | months after the trademark dispute (FSF demanding that FSFE stops misusing the "FSF" name) | Aug 23 06:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FSF used to say if it's trivial, as in <150 lines of code, or implements something that is an open specification that we're trying to encourage adoption of, or there's already lots of proprietary implementations out there, sometimes a more permissive license does more good than harm. | Aug 23 06:21 |
| kingoffrance | "Show them that even organisations which use different terms can work together" yeah they do seem purposely trying to muddy the waters | Aug 23 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I agree. | Aug 23 06:23 |
| kingoffrance | i call it hegelian brainwashing, or hermetic mergers for purposes of deception, not limited to sw licenses | Aug 23 06:23 |
| kingoffrance | i think its used for many many many things | Aug 23 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Permissive licenses harm the Free Software Movement in general, although sometimes that harm is outweighed by the benefit of solving a bigger problem. | Aug 23 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Microsoft swallows FLAC and Opus and AV1, more people will use it. | Aug 23 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That helps us if they grab it and use it. | Aug 23 06:24 |
| kingoffrance | his "different terms" strikes me as disingenuous, i.e. trying to convince people different terms are actually the same | Aug 23 06:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In general, just giving them software to pick over that would make Windows or Office or Azure work better sets us back. | Aug 23 06:26 |
| kingoffrance | ppl might think im too harsh, but to me, theres no other word except attempted brainwashing | Aug 23 06:26 |
| kingoffrance | also known as EEE of course | Aug 23 06:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Higan moved to Github. | Aug 23 06:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :( | Aug 23 06:27 |
| kingoffrance | embrace a word, extends its meaning to what you want it to mean, extinguish the original definition | Aug 23 06:27 |
| kingoffrance | destroy by "merging" with something of different meaning | Aug 23 06:27 |
| kingoffrance | i guess, it annoys me to no end, becaues whether you are pro or against something, when the waters are muddied, its difficult to even have a convo. after things get warped | Aug 23 06:29 |
| kingoffrance | if successful, it means future ppl are both just attacking or praising straw men basically | Aug 23 06:29 |
| kingoffrance | it destroys any possible debate | Aug 23 06:30 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Aug 23 06:37 |
| schestowitz | I will rephrae a bit | Aug 23 06:37 |
| schestowitz | will be ready soon | Aug 23 06:37 |
| schestowitz | for your approval | Aug 23 06:37 |
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| schestowitz | give me 5 minutes | Aug 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz | to tighten loose ends | Aug 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz | some intro | Aug 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz | then we can do the next leak | Aug 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz | kingoffrance: DaemonFC[m]: have a look, I quoted you both http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/ | Aug 23 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It’s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) | Techrights | Aug 23 06:52 | |
| schestowitz | so it's the opinion/s of 3 people | Aug 23 06:53 |
| schestowitz | which gives a broader spectrum of views | Aug 23 06:53 |
| schestowitz | ahead of publication | Aug 23 06:53 |
| schestowitz | check english | Aug 23 06:53 |
| schestowitz | I am sure there are mistakes there | Aug 23 06:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "not too longer" | Aug 23 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | long | Aug 23 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Ben) said they they" | Aug 23 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | that they | Aug 23 06:58 |
| schestowitz | right, fixed | Aug 23 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "convince people different terms" | Aug 23 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | convince people that | Aug 23 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, that's in a quote | Aug 23 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks good. | Aug 23 07:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Richard Stallman has had some highly unorthodox ideas about young teenagers being able to consent to sex. | Aug 23 07:02 |
| schestowitz | I will add in [] | Aug 23 07:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I know | Aug 23 07:03 |
| schestowitz | but he never abused kids | Aug 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With each other perhaps, but with older people? Society rightly frowns on that. | Aug 23 07:03 |
| schestowitz | it's some gnu volunteer brainwashing RMS | Aug 23 07:03 |
| schestowitz | and then RMS linking to his things | Aug 23 07:03 |
| schestowitz | with that Dutch pedo party | Aug 23 07:03 |
| schestowitz | I am never defending that | Aug 23 07:04 |
| schestowitz | but RMS did a lot less bad then Gates visiting Epstein in prison | Aug 23 07:04 |
| schestowitz | I have all sorts of possible theories | Aug 23 07:04 |
| schestowitz | they say Gary Little (high-profile pedo judge from Seattle area) knew Gates Sr. | Aug 23 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wait? Gates VISITED Epstein in prison? | Aug 23 07:04 |
| schestowitz | and their paths may have crossed | Aug 23 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, he's on the visitor log? | Aug 23 07:04 |
| schestowitz | it's not impossible that Gates was even looking to cover up for somebody else | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | but we don't know | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | we need to dig | Aug 23 07:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | .....and nobody talks about it? | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | why he flew with Epstein and met so many times | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | he doesn't need anything from him | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | unless he needed particular kinds of services and cover\ | Aug 23 07:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Epstein had it coming. Even if he was murdered. | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | yes, he did | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | to discuss how to whiten his name | Aug 23 07:05 |
| schestowitz | after the arrest | Aug 23 07:06 |
| schestowitz | Gates was eager to pain this man as a good guy | Aug 23 07:06 |
| schestowitz | and champion of science | Aug 23 07:06 |
| schestowitz | read up on it... | Aug 23 07:06 |
| schestowitz | they bribed MIT etc. | Aug 23 07:06 |
| schestowitz | those "Scientists" | Aug 23 07:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A good guy. Yeah, good guys usually rape hundreds of kids and throw a few $50s at them. | Aug 23 07:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe Gates does the same thing and is just a lot better at hiding it. | Aug 23 07:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Few people wouldn't shut up about that for the right price. | Aug 23 07:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just going to take a lot more than $200. | Aug 23 07:08 |
| schestowitz | please dig the court docs | Aug 23 07:08 |
| schestowitz | it's the little we have | Aug 23 07:08 |
| schestowitz | he's not going to give more info away | Aug 23 07:08 |
| schestowitz | too busy with his "busy schedule" | Aug 23 07:08 |
| schestowitz | saving the world from COVID, according to media he bribes | Aug 23 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have a pretty good idea what the TREATMENT would be. | Aug 23 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's that bullshit probation MRT. | Aug 23 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They make alcoholics and pedophiles sit through it. | Aug 23 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's never worked once, but they do it anyway. | Aug 23 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They ought to go back to chemically castrating (some) sex offenders. | Aug 23 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Forcible rape, Statutory <14, people like that. | Aug 23 07:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think they should. | Aug 23 07:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the only way to stop them is to do something that makes it impossible for them to want to offend again. | Aug 23 07:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Certain antipsychotic medications make it impossible to want to have sex, but they only do it to certain people. | Aug 23 07:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's why I refused to take Olanzapine for bipolar disorder. | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | need thoughts on: | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Re: OSI / Affiliate + Associate | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:27:34 +0000 | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | From: Matthias Kirschner <mk@fsfe.org> | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | To: team@lists.fsfe.org | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Dear Erik, | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | * Erik Albers [2017-02-21 11:20 +0100]: | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | > On 20.02.2017 16:27, Matthias Kirschner wrote: | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | >> * Jan-Christoph Borchardt <hey@jancborchardt.net> [2017-02-02 18:00:00 +0100]: | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 23 07:13 |
| schestowitz | >>> Also, I just recently heard about this associate program and I’m very happy | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >>> that this is pushed again. We also thought about becoming OSI affiliate | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >>> since some time, and I suppose it’s quite a similar thing? | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Yes, I see it not that much different from their program: | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >> https://opensource.org/affiliates/about | Aug 23 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Become an OSI Affiliate | Open Source Initiative | Aug 23 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > as they already have a much longer list than FSFE has and seem to grow | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > it since 2012, I think it would be interesting to ask them about their | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > experience with it, the benefit or downsides or if they are using it all | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > and these things? | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | and here the answer to your question: it seems they have contacted them once at the beginning, asking them to become affiliated organisations. After that according to Simon Phipps there was almost nothing they did with them. They "forgot about them". | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | From the process: | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | * They approached almost all the big organisations themselves. For those they added a questions, if they would support them with a one-time donation in case OSI ever has a problem; which most of them answered with yes. | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | * Afterwards new organisations applied. * As there were many LUGs they at one point just added a separate category in their affiliates for user groups. | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | With some of those organisations they now want to do "joint memberships" and offer those at some conferences. The first one will be a joint OSI/FSF/SFC membership. Simon asked if we would be interested in something like that for European events. I said that this generated more problems as it would solve, and said that we would first like to see how it goes with their experiment. | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | Btw. Simon said he could see OSI to become an associated organisation of the FSFE if we become an affiliated organisation. | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | Best Regards, | Aug 23 07:14 |
| schestowitz | Matthias | Aug 23 07:14 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It’s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/190de9af-8f2e-4dd5-b6d5-a544d408b398] | Aug 23 07:16 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FSFE pushing Open Source is a direct contradiction of what Stallman wanted to do with the FSF, which he had stated on many occasions. He said things like some people call him the "father of open source" and he wished they would stop because it meant a lesser standard of freedom for the users, and he joked that if he was the father of open source, they "used stolen semen". | Aug 23 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the FSFE is not using the FSF definition of Free Software and need to quite calling themselves a Free Software organization, per the agreement, or stop trying to label open source as the "exact same thing". Because it isn't. It's freedom with generational loss. It only guarantees that the the first people in line who get a copy have the right to use it however they want. | Aug 23 07:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The first time someone redistributes a modified version, they can take away some or all of the freedoms that they got from it, or use it to impose DRM. | Aug 23 07:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The GPL 3 has anti-DRM provisions that allow users to break DRM that it has been used to implement by making the distributor admit that they don't declare it to be a "technical protection measure" as defined by law. (Like the DMCA.) | Aug 23 07:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apple absolutely will not abide by that. They love DRM because they're buddy-buddy with Hollywood and the RIAA, and it traps people on Apple computing platforms. | Aug 23 07:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Open source is mute on the topic of DRM because they don't care if their software is used to create it or not. | Aug 23 07:23 |
| schestowitz | thanks, will add | Aug 23 07:23 |
| schestowitz | I am drafting something | Aug 23 07:23 |
| schestowitz | kingoffrance: ^ you can also comment | Aug 23 07:23 |
| schestowitz | or anyone else for that matter | Aug 23 07:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, "quit", not "quite". | Aug 23 07:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Slip up. | Aug 23 07:25 |
| schestowitz | I made an edit of that already | Aug 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | I also added "v" in gpl 3 | Aug 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | so we both spotted the same typo | Aug 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | give me 5 minutes | Aug 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | maybe I will make a meme for this | Aug 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | mask-themed | Aug 23 07:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was pretty pissed off the first time I came across DRM. It was iTunes on Windows XP. | Aug 23 07:28 |
| schestowitz | "Backstabbers and turncoats have worked together to weaken the FSF and to dilute/override/rewrite the message of Free software and it mostly boils down to money and status" | Aug 23 07:28 |
| schestowitz | summary ok? | Aug 23 07:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I never encountered DRM | Aug 23 07:29 |
| schestowitz | but I read about it | Aug 23 07:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Aug 23 07:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: I never encountered DR"> Thankfully I didn't lose money. Apple was promoting free songs from iTunes with codes under Pepsi bottle caps in 2003. | Aug 23 07:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But when I redeemed my codes, and tried to play the songs in Winamp, it didn't work at all. | Aug 23 07:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They only played in iTunes. So I thought they were using some sort of special format or something and maybe Winamp needed a plug-in, and when I went looking, I found out what was going on. | Aug 23 07:30 |
| schestowitz | meme done | Aug 23 07:31 |
| schestowitz | so you lost your collections | Aug 23 07:33 |
| schestowitz | I lost one very old collection | Aug 23 07:33 |
| schestowitz | few mp3s from the 1990s | Aug 23 07:34 |
| schestowitz | due to two HDD failures | Aug 23 07:34 |
| schestowitz | but there was not much use to those collections anyway | Aug 23 07:34 |
| schestowitz | or old emails of mine from the 90s | Aug 23 07:34 |
| schestowitz | very, very boring and useless mails | Aug 23 07:34 |
| schestowitz | my archive now goes back to 2001 IIRC | Aug 23 07:34 |
| kingoffrance | well i think these name games have gone on a long time | Aug 23 07:36 |
| kingoffrance | just not from "inside" before | Aug 23 07:37 |
| kingoffrance | i agree with DaemonFC[m] | Aug 23 07:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | DRM causes more piracy than it prevents. | Aug 23 07:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One pirate creates a version with no DRM and all the pirates share it. People get pissed off by DRM once or twice and you lose them to piracy because they're skeptical of the whole idea or trying to buy your new product. | Aug 23 07:39 |
| kingoffrance | lemme read the http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/ | Aug 23 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It’s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) | Techrights | Aug 23 07:39 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: have a look http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/ | Aug 23 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | Techrights | Aug 23 07:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't play Assassin's Creed until GoG put it up. | Aug 23 07:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good game. Really good game. | Aug 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz | I am going to double-check now I got email indentation right | Aug 23 07:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even for being as old as it is. | Aug 23 07:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | joint OSI/FSF/SFC | Aug 23 07:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That would be the FSFE that's talking about the joint membership, right? | Aug 23 07:41 |
| kingoffrance | i guess, any corp. on the face of the planet would be pissed if somenoe tries to dilute their "brand" | Aug 23 07:43 |
| kingoffrance | i cant imagine any scenario they arent deliberately muddying things | Aug 23 07:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that's what trademark law is all about. | Aug 23 07:44 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Aug 23 07:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mozilla has demanded people stop calling their browser Firefox due to some compile time options being different, even. | Aug 23 07:45 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Aug 23 07:45 |
| kingoffrance | well phoenix and icecat and ... exactly | Aug 23 07:45 |
| kingoffrance | iceweasel, ... | Aug 23 07:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Debian's case it was because they wanted to stick with a certain version throughout a release and backport security fixes. | Aug 23 07:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem with security fixes is that not all of them have CVE numbers and unless you follow things very closely, you will miss some. | Aug 23 07:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In a project like the Linux kernel, it moves too fast to try to backport security fixes to some frankenkernel properly. | Aug 23 07:46 |
| kingoffrance | well firebird a short while too i think | Aug 23 07:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, Mozilla has had trademark problems of their own. | Aug 23 07:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At this rate, there won't be a Mozilla for much longer. | Aug 23 07:47 |
| kingoffrance | i just mean, fsf has every right to do the same | Aug 23 07:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The last layoff took out 1,000 people and then a couple weeks ago Mitchell Baker fired 250, which was said to be a third of all the people that they had left. | Aug 23 07:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: any typos spotted yet? | Aug 23 07:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This was after inking another huge search deal. | Aug 23 07:48 |
| schestowitz | I have not begun proofreading myself | Aug 23 07:48 |
| schestowitz | as tuxmachines became available | Aug 23 07:48 |
| schestowitz | due to over 20000 req bursts | Aug 23 07:48 |
| schestowitz | It's under control now | Aug 23 07:48 |
| schestowitz | [07:48] <DaemonFC[m]> The last layoff took out 1,000 people and then a couple weeks ago Mitchell Baker fired 250, which was said to be a third of all the people that they had left. | Aug 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | She pays herself over 2 million bucks a year | Aug 23 07:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Just that you spoke of an "FSF" joint membership. | Aug 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | even before she was CEO | Aug 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | I said, you could pay the salaries of those 75 people you fired | Aug 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | by taking a decent, fair salary to yourself | Aug 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | it's in the IRS filings | Aug 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ah, will fix | Aug 23 07:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Her reign of terror at Mozilla will leave them so brain drained that they'll never recover even if she leaves. | Aug 23 07:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have their lowest head count since MSIE 6 roamed the Earth. | Aug 23 07:50 |
| schestowitz | I quoted from the email | Aug 23 07:50 |
| schestowitz | so maybe he meant FSFE | Aug 23 07:50 |
| schestowitz | but I cannot change what he said | Aug 23 07:50 |
| schestowitz | if you spotted no other typos, I will proof-read swiftly now | Aug 23 07:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't see anything. | Aug 23 07:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the next step may be to go ahead and get rid of the Gecko engine. | Aug 23 07:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google agreed to pay them a lot of money for having <5% of web browser usage share. | Aug 23 07:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google's been making a lot of changes to their own sites to where they only work properly in Chromium browsers. | Aug 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz | they still get paid | Aug 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz | they tried MS/Yahoo for a while | Aug 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz | not sure when that stopped | Aug 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz | in yesterday's news: https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/22/chromium_devs_raw_sockets/ | Aug 23 07:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Chromium devs want the browser to talk to devices, computers directly via TCP, UDP. Obviously, nothing can't go wrong • The Register | Aug 23 07:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | When Verizon bought Yahoo. | Aug 23 07:53 |
| schestowitz | is verizon anything to do with comcast now? | Aug 23 07:54 |
| schestowitz | I forgot who merged with what | Aug 23 07:54 |
| schestowitz | and comcast is also an extension of another | Aug 23 07:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "and comcast is also an extension"> Comcast bought NBC. | Aug 23 08:01 |
| schestowitz | I found a few typos | Aug 23 08:02 |
| schestowitz | I am happier with the text now | Aug 23 08:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ah, ok | Aug 23 08:03 |
| schestowitz | yes, I remember that | Aug 23 08:03 |
| schestowitz | the other big merger was rushed through by the ShitPie FCC | Aug 23 08:03 |
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| schestowitz | Test US IP: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141261 | Aug 23 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla's Incredible Speech-To-Text Engine Is At Risk Following Layoffs | Tux Machines | Aug 23 08:08 | |
| schestowitz | no idea why out monitoring service says it's down | Aug 23 08:08 |
| schestowitz | it seems to be OK now | Aug 23 08:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe it has not retried in a while... | Aug 23 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > if corporations are people, are people corporations? | Aug 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | I asked myself EXACTLY the same question a few days ago. I think I quipped something to that effect too, but I'm not sure. Could not think of something witty to say... | Aug 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | I am sure many people in the past thought the same thing anyway... | Aug 23 08:12 |
| kingoffrance | well, artificial person versus natural person, i guess i try to avoid using "people" except for real people | Aug 23 08:13 |
| kingoffrance | person: persona | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | [01:10] <kingoffrance> Oct 11 2019 is date of: https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/B/browse/master/.github/stale.yml that reads like it tells github to close any issues because development happens elsewhere | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Re: research in progress (BLENdER3D) | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > ive checked blender several times in the past. i believe it was always a mirror, therefore it didnt make it to the wiki. | Aug 23 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | stale.yml · rB | Aug 23 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > any project can mirror free software. its a non-issue. nothing that can be done but to make the software less free. | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > this doesnt mean im comfortable with github, nor do i recommend people use it for any purpose. but for our purposes, i dont worry about mirrors. the intermediate steps i worry about (where the development still takes place elsewhere) are official use of issues and pull requests. you can find places on the gnuhub wiki page that mention this. pull requests are a github feature (other things use analogues, but pull requests require a | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | github account thus there is microsoft control) though issues sometimes predate github itself-- with perl, for example. i couple mirrors claim to be mirrors only, though if theyre using pull requests or github-specific discussions i find that contradictory. this may apply to gnustep. it applies to at least one of the gnu projects. | Aug 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | So somebody else has looked into it already | Aug 23 08:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As a read-only mirror, probably no harm done. | Aug 23 08:16 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yeah | Aug 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz | but we needed to be sure | Aug 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft paid them last month | Aug 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz | there are conditions for that | Aug 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz | they get access to decision-maker | Aug 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz | /s | Aug 23 08:20 |
| schestowitz | so things might change | Aug 23 08:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Higan on Github is unfortunate. | Aug 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz | we monitor this going forward... | Aug 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz | we'll have an article re azure on monday | Aug 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz | [08:21] <DaemonFC[m]> Higan on Github is unfortunate. | Aug 23 08:21 |
| schestowitz | who's/what's that? | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | you mentioned this before | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe short for something? | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | "Is multi-cloud architecture a good idea?" | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | It'll be about "JEDI" | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | and Gartner | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | working on it | Aug 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | Re: blacklistd feature | Aug 23 08:23 |
| schestowitz | > blacklistd is a security daemon available in freebsd. whether or not it | Aug 23 08:23 |
| schestowitz | > is enabled by default, it is important enough to have its own section | Aug 23 08:23 |
| schestowitz | > (30.6) in the bsd handbook. | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > i think the implications wrt censorship, safe space policies and | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > software freedom are blatant here. having found it, i thought id mention | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > it. im grateful that freebsd at least ditched their particularly stupid | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > coc for a less stupid one. the faq still contains jokes that the new fsf | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > probably wouldnt use at this point (including one at stallmans expense, | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > though by comparison openbsd wrote an entire song to make fun of him) so | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > as long as those are there, along with blacklistd, i will hope they are | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > not too coc-happy for it to be a huge issue. | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > xxxxxxxxx wants to fork bsd, particularly freebsd. hyperbola is based on | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > openbsd. wants to / will, not the same thing. but you never know who he | Aug 23 08:24 |
| schestowitz | > will meet. | Aug 23 08:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > who's/what's that? | Aug 23 08:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Classic game console emulator, but the guy is obsessive that it should work exactly like the real hardware did. | Aug 23 08:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It'll be uaeful to historians maybe at some point. Nobody manufacturing these systems anymore. | Aug 23 08:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were hosted on gitlab before, I think. | Aug 23 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | does anyone here know Alessandro Rubini? | Aug 23 09:55 |
| schestowitz | or Sonia Montegiove? | Aug 23 09:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://opensource.org/docs/board-annotated#HongPhucDang | Aug 23 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Board - Annotated | Open Source Initiative | Aug 23 10:09 | |
| schestowitz | " Hong also acts as an InnerSource manager at Zalando where she helps to bring open source best practices within the corporate walls and supports the company to become a good open source citizen." | Aug 23 10:09 |
| schestowitz | InnerSource? | Aug 23 10:09 |
| schestowitz | WTF? | Aug 23 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary | Aug 23 10:10 |
| schestowitz | that just means something like, "We use git or github private repos to develop nonfree s/w" | Aug 23 10:11 |
| schestowitz | it is the third E in Open Source EEE | Aug 23 10:12 |
| schestowitz | where open just means... proprietary | Aug 23 10:12 |
| kingoffrance | what do they do then, make you sign NDA where source is "internal" ? | Aug 23 10:13 |
| kingoffrance | so yeah, basically proprietary | Aug 23 10:13 |
| kingoffrance | with a new name | Aug 23 10:14 |
| kingoffrance | isnt that just another word for closed source? | Aug 23 10:16 |
| kingoffrance | "inner source" | Aug 23 10:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/05/23/innersource-commons-isc-president-a-giveaway/ | Aug 23 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | To Understand Why “Inner Source” is a Cheap Corporate Ploy if Not a Free Software-Hostile ‘Scam’ Look Who’s Behind It | Techrights | Aug 23 10:17 | |
| schestowitz | they redefine the debate | Aug 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz | everything is "source" now | Aug 23 10:22 |
| schestowitz | even malware is "source" | Aug 23 10:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/21/crushing-us-sanctions-devastate-syrias-people-and-post-war-reconstruction/ | Aug 23 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | Crushing US sanctions devastate Syria's people and post-war reconstruction | The Grayzone | Aug 23 10:44 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PaulJCormier/status/1267256450025508866 | Aug 23 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PaulJCormier: .@RedHat stands in solidarity with the Black community - our colleagues, customers, partners and neighbors - and al… https://t.co/acYH0mC7ph | Aug 23 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PaulJCormier: .@RedHat stands in solidarity with the Black community - our colleagues, customers, partners and neighbors - and al… https://t.co/acYH0mC7ph | Aug 23 14:29 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/webmink/status/1182602653882343425 | Aug 23 14:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@webmink: So many people are confusing open source licensing (which permits, and eliminates scarcity) with 'proprietary' lice… https://t.co/wtFUULEhg6 | Aug 23 14:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@webmink: So many people are confusing open source licensing (which permits, and eliminates scarcity) with 'proprietary' lice… https://t.co/wtFUULEhg6 | Aug 23 14:42 | |
| MinceR | 23 065206 < schestowitz> suicides | Aug 23 14:43 |
| MinceR | that doesn't help | Aug 23 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO | Aug 23 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights | Aug 23 15:18 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: are you out and about? | Aug 23 15:30 |
| schestowitz | the gates things gain a lot of traction right now | Aug 23 15:30 |
| schestowitz | twitter shadowbans some of that, of course... | Aug 23 15:31 |
| MinceR | https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2017/06/30/mads-tips-to-enjoy-the-fourth-of-july | Aug 23 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD'S TIPS TO ENJOY THE FOURTH OF JULY | Mad Magazine | Aug 23 15:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://local12.com/news/local/nky-man-allegedly-raped-sodomized-13-year-old-he-met-on-snapchat | Aug 23 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-local12.com | NKY man allegedly raped, sodomized 13-year-old he met on Snapchat | WKRC | Aug 23 15:43 | |
| schestowitz | he wasn't famous and wasn't a "vaccine hero" | Aug 23 15:43 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/08/should-pseudonym-be-changed-george.html?showComment=1597821243171#c1037794861355468430 | Aug 23 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Should a pseudonym be changed: George Eliot, Mary Ann Evans, and the "Reclaim her Name" project - The IPKat | Aug 23 15:49 | |
| schestowitz | "I have since been reminded of the piece by Kat friend Mira Sundara Rajan, https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/11/elena-ferrantes-right-to-a-pseudonym/507530/, which was reported on by IPKat in 2016." | Aug 23 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Elena Ferrante’s Right to a Pseudonym Under Copyright Law - The Atlantic | Aug 23 15:49 | |
| schestowitz | "I wonder if the Reclaim Her Name project will be seeking to republish the works of Robert Galbraith for much the same reasons as those advanced in the case of Eliot/Evans." | Aug 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/08/shining-light-on-insufficiency-t-128515.html?showComment=1597991375885#c7331130382871011621 | Aug 23 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Shining the light on insufficiency (T 1285/15) - The IPKat | Aug 23 15:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | You think it is right that the applicant disclosed the invention at the filing/priority date to the public in exchange for patent protection and later the EPO says: "Sorry not bound to the contract monopoly in exchange of a technical teaching anymore?" | Aug 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | What the public does with the disclosure at filing/priority date (or, admittedly, publication date) is not something the applicant/patentee can influence. | Aug 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/08/uk-patent-exams-update-proctoring.html?showComment=1597837914059#c6951985928585584857 | Aug 23 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | UK patent exams update: Proctoring system will no-longer be used, but exams still to go ahead with "simpler" invigilation system - The IPKat | Aug 23 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | "To the one suggesting changing careers if you cannot pass P6 after a few attempts - what a spectacularly thoughtless comment. Why should anyone give up a perfectly good career they are completely capable of succeeding in just because they cannot pass a pointless, unfit-for-purpose exam? " | Aug 23 15:52 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: heh | Aug 23 16:04 |
| schestowitz | so small an image | Aug 23 16:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN25J0K2 | Aug 23 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.reuters.com | Microsoft says Apple's move against 'Fortnite' creator would hurt its games | Article [AMP] | Reuters | Aug 23 18:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft joined tge lawsuit against Apple. | Aug 23 18:21 |
| schestowitz | "lol | Aug 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | good force microsoft... | Aug 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're asking a court to stop Apple from being able to enforce in app payments through the app store. | Aug 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | fighting for 'just us' | Aug 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | as if Microsoft does any better | Aug 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, for once I agree completely. | Aug 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz A ruling against Apple could be cited in cases where other app stores force this. | Aug 23 18:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would cause lower prices for consumers because Apple handling the payments would be a convenience for the developers, not a monopoly. | Aug 23 18:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 23 18:24 |
| MinceR | first microsuck copies crApple, then microsuck sues crApple for doing what they copied | Aug 23 18:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Theoretically, this app store monopoly harms Android users too, because the developers base their fees on Apple's "commission" | Aug 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/aJh4dYd.mp4 | Aug 23 18:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This has driven up a Spotify subscription by at least 10% across the board. | Aug 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | what do spotify's prices have to do with "developers" though? | Aug 23 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not that great things will happen with a court finding that this practice is illegal, other than Apple getting hurt financially. | Aug 23 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd be glad to see that though. | Aug 23 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Worth $2 trillion in part because they steal like this. | Aug 23 18:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's cheaper to have a Google Developer account. Apple charged $150 per year and Google had an up front fee of $5 last I checked, to make sure of who you are mostly. | Aug 23 18:29 |
| MinceR | or you could just distribute apk-s yourself, or use a different repository | Aug 23 18:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lower barrier to entry on Android. JWZ said he was giving up on making freeware for the iPhone because it was costing him $150 a year to give stuff away. | Aug 23 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said Apple was deliberately pushing away people who wanted to make freeware apps so that they could take part of the payments too. | Aug 23 18:30 |
| schestowitz | [18:27] <DaemonFC[m]> Worth $2 trillion in part because they steal like this. | Aug 23 18:30 |
| schestowitz | you mean 200 billion | Aug 23 18:31 |
| schestowitz | +90% in imaginary value | Aug 23 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes. | Aug 23 18:31 |
| schestowitz | because it helps pretend the debt can be paid back if only we support "job-creating" oligarchs | Aug 23 18:31 |
| MinceR | once the brainwashing is complete, jwz will sell his shit for hypeOS | Aug 23 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of the twisted ways they used open source software against the users and developers was to enforce the pocket-picking app store on them. | Aug 23 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Parents Television Council apparently filed complaints against Rick and Morty. | Aug 23 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have nothing better to do than watch this with a pen and a notepad and write down every single time it offended them apparently. | Aug 23 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's just not living a full life. | Aug 23 18:33 |
| schestowitz | The way things are going, by election day US might be world's 4th worst for COVID-19 deaths/capita | Aug 23 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've never gotten the FCC to do anything that I'm aware of other than the fine for Janet Jackson's nipple in 2004 | Aug 23 18:35 |
| schestowitz | topped by belgium, peru and spain | Aug 23 18:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: fake nipple | Aug 23 18:35 |
| schestowitz | if Janet wasn't female, the nipple would be fine | Aug 23 18:36 |
| schestowitz | because we have a systems where guys can flaunt their nipples | Aug 23 18:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The courts threw the fine out 8 years later. | Aug 23 18:36 |
| schestowitz | but girls are banned by FB for it | Aug 23 18:36 |
| schestowitz | talk about "Western shriah" | Aug 23 18:36 |
| MinceR | just cover the female nipple with an image of a male nipple | Aug 23 18:36 |
| schestowitz | *Shariah | Aug 23 18:36 |
| MinceR | or have the female identify as (partly) male | Aug 23 18:36 |
| schestowitz | [18:36] <MinceR> just cover the female nipple with an image of a male nipple | Aug 23 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Snipple | Aug 23 18:37 |
| schestowitz | it's OK to have a wet shirt with a nipple showing through it | Aug 23 18:37 |
| schestowitz | nobody can accurately define what it "too much nipple" | Aug 23 18:37 |
| schestowitz | or whose | Aug 23 18:37 |
| schestowitz | what about female monkey? | Aug 23 18:38 |
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| MinceR | make the shirt of transparent plastic | Aug 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | it gets even stranger when you have flat-chested ladies | Aug 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | or ladies who lost a breast to cancer | Aug 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | or nipple surgically reconstructed | Aug 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | and anime\ | Aug 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | the rules are ambiguous and enforcement arbitrary | Aug 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | some say, just liberate the nipple | Aug 23 18:39 |
| schestowitz | it's overhyped tissue type | Aug 23 18:39 |
| schestowitz | both male and female genders have it, all mammals | Aug 23 18:39 |
| schestowitz | some have loads of them, like 8 | Aug 23 18:39 |
| schestowitz | A Republican Conservative never gropes a dog and says, "hey, bitch, I can't help touching you there, cover yourself up" | Aug 23 18:40 |
| schestowitz | A lot of these rule boil down to male restraint/testosterone | Aug 23 18:40 |
| schestowitz | or lack of restraint | Aug 23 18:40 |
| schestowitz | so punish the men with no restraint | Aug 23 18:40 |
| MinceR | ah yes, i love it when they "protect the rights" of computer-generated images | Aug 23 18:41 |
| schestowitz | no the women who dares show an inch of their breast that is considered the 'only' part which is 'naughty' | Aug 23 18:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they worry about precedence | Aug 23 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | In computer games there's a push to shrink the women's breasts (CG) and change physics models to make them more rigid, yet nobody demands that guys in computer games should have small and "more realistic expectations" muscles | Aug 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Same in movies | Aug 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | the whole debate creates a lot more problems than it solves | Aug 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | and then you had up with trolls and "-gates" | Aug 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | because it's a feeding frenzy | Aug 23 18:45 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/684323.jpg | Aug 23 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I liked who Stranger Things had as Sheriff Jim Hopper. | Aug 23 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's not your stereotypical saves the world guy. | Aug 23 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's a dumpy sort of fuck up dad bod guy who pours Aunt Jemima in his coffee and he drinks too much. | Aug 23 18:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They made some jokes about this in the show. He turns out to be as proficient at taking out bad guys (and monsters in this case) as Mike from Breaking Bad. | Aug 23 19:00 |
| schestowitz | hen tie, MinceR | Aug 23 19:00 |
| schestowitz | took me a while to get it | Aug 23 19:00 |
| schestowitz | shit, ddos attack, I did not notice | Aug 23 19:02 |
| schestowitz | against techrights | Aug 23 19:02 |
| schestowitz | the new monitoring I'm still not used to | Aug 23 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like the anti-hero types because it's more believable that someone who is deeply flawed gets roped in to doing the right thing and then sort of maybe develops their own conscience because of it. | Aug 23 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Harrison Ford said he hated playing Han Solo. I haven't really liked Star Wars since Lucas went back and added all that "WTF" crap from the cutting room floor and special effects using 90s CGI that look totally out of place and shockingly less realistic than the original material. | Aug 23 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no way to get the originals back because they use copyright to not sell them to you. | Aug 23 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Empire Strikes Back was by far the best. The Library of Congress got ahold of the original release and refused to preserve the "Special Edition" that George Lucas tried to hand them. | Aug 23 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That doesn't really help the public though. | Aug 23 19:09 |
| XRevan86 | Where could one possibly get https://thestarwarstrilogy.com/ … | Aug 23 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestarwarstrilogy.com | The Star Wars Trilogy | A Digital Star Wars Scrap book. | Aug 23 19:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | All of the Disney stuff is anti-climactic and all over the place because they're focused on cranking them out so fast that what should have been rough drafts end up being the script. | Aug 23 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they ever wrapped up a story arc, then they wouldn't get people to see the next one, but box offfice sales were dropping anyway because of the fatigue of seeing a strong of unsatisfying movies. | Aug 23 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They continued George Lucas's policy of including exactly 1 black character with main character armor. | Aug 23 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He can actually shoot and hit something despite being black and having a background as a Stormtrooper. So mad props, as they say. | Aug 23 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was beginning to see an explanation for why you can have like 50 Stormtroopers shooting at you and they all miss. | Aug 23 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Oh, okay, so the Empire is Chicago in space. It all makes sense now." | Aug 23 19:14 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Main character armor on too many people is one of the big flaws of Stranger Things. | Aug 23 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Inevitably, if the ratings start to slip, I can see this going the Walking Dead where they start sacrificing main characters just to make it possible that anyone could bite it next. | Aug 23 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hopefully the scripts don't ever get that bad. | Aug 23 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm all for making the audience suspend their disbelief a little to make the story work, but having elite Soviet commandos and monsters from a parallel universe after like 20 people with main character armor at this point is a bit much. | Aug 23 19:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=4175680717&goto=newpost | Aug 23 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | FFII warns against another attempt to sneak software patents into EU law | Aug 23 19:20 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even one software patent can really screw things up for decades. | Aug 23 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | S3 Texture Compression..... | Aug 23 19:22 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ATGC Could Come In Linux 5.10 For F2FS and Cachy in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141274 [https://pleroma.site/objects/10a6ebbb-9904-472b-a98f-4b5d936acd28] | Aug 23 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then S3TC had some limitations, and there was a patent some patent troll got on how to work around that limitation to get better compression out of it. | Aug 23 19:23 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141275 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a895b857-cf3b-4d6c-a753-dc96142bba18] | Aug 23 19:25 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Doom 3 engine was very advanced in 2004. They really did a lot of work to make it play at an acceptable speed on lower end computers and minimize the sacrifice in visual quality. | Aug 23 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 512 MB of RAM on a graphics card was considered insane at the time, so I don't think anything actually ran it on Ultra High when it was released. | Aug 23 19:27 |
| schestowitz | graphics card? | Aug 23 19:28 |
| schestowitz | what's that? | Aug 23 19:28 |
| schestowitz | (doom days) | Aug 23 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I don't think the Coronavirus is necessary getting worse in Illinois. | Aug 23 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've set testing records for the last 5 days in a row. | Aug 23 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we're obviously diagnosing cases that are less severe where you'd just get turned away in Indiana. | Aug 23 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the long term that might lead to a sustained decline if people know they have it and stay away from others. | Aug 23 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These states that set tougher requirements so you have to be really sick to get a test are just having a lot of undiagnosed cases walking around. | Aug 23 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they make things look good for a few weeks and then things get worse. | Aug 23 19:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: good | Aug 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | better to know | Aug 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | than to live a dream/illusion | Aug 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 6 deaths here today | Aug 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | fewer than Italy even | Aug 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: when you diagnose the surviving positives you can use their blood as donors for antibodies | Aug 23 19:36 |
| schestowitz | so the tests can save lived by identifying blood that is effective in saving old and vulnerable people's liveds | Aug 23 19:36 |
| schestowitz | *lives | Aug 23 19:36 |
| schestowitz | and the more of them you have with resistance, the more you can build up defenses | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | until it goes extinct | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | with a collective immune system | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | by then, maybe vaccines won't be that desirable either | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | hence the rush to market from billness the college drop-out | Aug 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | need to make a killing before those things are killed, like in Wuhan | Aug 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FDA blocked a plasma treatment. | Aug 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump accused the FDA of being a Deep State plot to release a treatment after he loses the election. | Aug 23 19:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe he can call in a favor for the Russian Army to come inject my dad and mom with Sputnik V. | Aug 23 19:42 |
| schestowitz | #billgates #licensing #greed #MicrosoftBusinessModel #profiteering http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/gates-economics-chat.mp4?_=1 | Aug 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: lol | Aug 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | did he say that? | Aug 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | or do you sort of make it up? | Aug 23 19:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/aug/22/us-politics-live-joe-biden-kamala-harris-donald-trump-coronavirus-election-latest-news-updates | Aug 23 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Pelosi slams Trump 'deep state' tweet on coronavirus vaccines – as it happened | US news | The Guardian | Aug 23 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | billgates guardian | Aug 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | funded by gates | Aug 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | and relaying his PR | Aug 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | but ... | Aug 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | this is pelosi | Aug 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | so I guess he and she did say that | Aug 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | but it's not news | Aug 23 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're mostly just quoting his tweet and her response to it. | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | its a bunch of useless tweets | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | i.e. shit 'journalism' | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | yeah, like I said | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | shit 'journalism' | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | copy pasting a tweet | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | and balancing with another tweet | Aug 23 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was just making a joke about how my parents would probably welcome the Russian Army and their dodgy vaccine if Trump told them to roll up their sleeve for it. | Aug 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | voila! I'm a journalist | Aug 23 19:47 |
| scientes | still glad I have DaemonFC[m] ignored | Aug 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | worst case scenario, their skin gets a little SPOTTY | Aug 23 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe I should ignore him so I don't get highlighted by that. | Aug 23 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Maybe nanoprobes assimilate them and they start speaking Russian in advance of the US annexation referendum. ;) | Aug 23 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem would be spotting the difference in how ridiculous my parents were before and after. | Aug 23 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something is now calling me from all 000s every day. I had that blocked in my phone before I changed my number. | Aug 23 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing legitimate hides their caller ID, usually. | Aug 23 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | when did that start, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 23 19:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Friday | Aug 23 19:55 |
| schestowitz | someone who writes articles for us has his suspicions http://techrights.org/2020/08/15/pi-surveillance/ | Aug 23 19:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kia started doing that when the payments were late, but they know I'm in bankruptcy and closed me account. | Aug 23 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Article: A Tale of Possible Surveillance | Techrights | Aug 23 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Citi Bank also has a collector that is said to ignore debt collection laws. | Aug 23 19:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They did that too. | Aug 23 19:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcy law says that all efforts to collect a debt must stop the instant the bankruptcy is filed with thw court. It overrules state law. | Aug 23 19:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There are big fines for continuing to try to collect. | Aug 23 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:57] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): The #criminals from #microsoft pretend to have moral high ground when it comes to competition http://www.fosspatents.com/2020/08/microsoft-supports-epic-games-quest-for.html https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN25J0K2 [https://pleroma.site/objects/024ea9d1-9138-4701-a35e-0c07560f2df2] | Aug 23 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Microsoft supports Epic Games' quest for temporary restraining order against Apple, stresses importance of Unreal Engine | Aug 23 19:59 | |
| schestowitz | [19:58] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Epic practically gives up on #Fortnite , prioritizes #UnrealEngine in reply brief pushing for temporary restraining order against #Apple http://www.fosspatents.com/2020/08/epic-practically-gives-up-on-fortnite.html [https://pleroma.site/objects/537f6490-ea8f-42bb-bac0-fb25c7d0b202] | Aug 23 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.reuters.com | Microsoft says Apple's move against 'Fortnite' creator would hurt its games | Article [AMP] | Reuters | Aug 23 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 23 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Epic practically gives up on Fortnite, prioritizes Unreal Engine in reply brief pushing for temporary restraining order against Apple | Aug 23 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 23 19:59 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I was reading about this one case where a company ignored the automatic stay on about $1,400 in debt. | Aug 23 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Decided they'd go after the debtor on criminal charges in an attempt to make them pay up. | Aug 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was a forcible detainer case. | Aug 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | added to http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141265#comment-26223 | Aug 23 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Problems and Apple's Monopoly | Tux Machines | Aug 23 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, the bankruptcy court ended up taking $56,000 from them in fines and compensation to the debtor for her legal bills. | Aug 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: never mind your own case | Aug 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | it's not a diary | Aug 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | we need to focus on stories of broader interest | Aug 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You asked what happens to the creditors. | Aug 23 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They leave it alone if they know what's good for them. | Aug 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | remember the site opendiary? | Aug 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | 1990s? | Aug 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | don't turn the irc channels into that | Aug 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | opendiary was ok for its time | Aug 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | but we need to focus on the tech and legal issues of relevance to the site | Aug 23 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing that can possibly come from violating bankruptcy law is further losses that make the bankruptcy look like peanuts. | Aug 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/04/fibrogen-v-akebia-arnold-lj-addresses.html?showComment=1598014435368#c6025792172482490376 | Aug 23 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | FibroGen v. Akebia: Arnold LJ addresses insufficiency, equivalence, second medical use claims, and much more - The IPKat | Aug 23 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | A very thorough judgement indeed and truly engaging comments. I havent read it in full, but many thnx to the autor for providing some guidance for being able to quickly get to the interesting bits. I am wondering, is this the 1st time a ref in UK was made to the BGH "dedication to public" principle? If yes, is anyone expecing some more implications from this reference? Just curious, cheers :)"" | Aug 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | EPO eerily quiet this august, even by this month's standard of slowness | Aug 23 20:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The coal bankruptcies have continued getting much worse. | Aug 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/02/book-review-domain-name-law-and-practice.html?showComment=1597955821384#c2452375477890564956 | Aug 23 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book Review: Domain Name Law and Practice - The IPKat | Aug 23 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | "To be blunt, this is not much of a review? How does this book compare to the works of Gerald M. Levine for example?" | Aug 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Ads as "reviews" | Aug 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: sounds COAL to me! | Aug 23 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Federal Trade Commission is holding up a merger of two bankrupt coal companies that represent 60% of all coal mining in Wyoming. Bill Barr is seeing if he can take the FTC to court to have their decision overturned. | Aug 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Roasting US justice | Aug 23 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They figure they can merge operations and eliminate "redundancies", which will almost certainly include thousands of coal miners. | Aug 23 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So more job losses after Trump said he would create coal jobs like nothing you've ever seen before. | Aug 23 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Coal by absolute electric energy produced in the US has been cut in half since Trump took office with a serious drop this year. | Aug 23 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's hovering around like 13% of electricity generated right now, from 47% 10 years ago. | Aug 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | https://www.cracked.com/article_28433_who-got-ball-rolling-qanon.html | Aug 23 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who Got The Ball Rolling On QAnon? | Cracked.com | Aug 23 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | see video at bottom | Aug 23 20:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody wants it, so the amount mined has to go down. There's a lag time, in between schestowitz , because there's a "storage buffer" that filled up and then there was simply nowhere left to store it after a few months, and the suppliers choked. | Aug 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | and the text next to it | Aug 23 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they're all going tits up. | Aug 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | good | Aug 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | set fire to it | Aug 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | though it typically needs gasoline | Aug 23 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've been doing mass layoffs and telling the workers up front it's permanent and giving them small severance packages to get rid of them. | Aug 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | it's only good when the temperatures are high to begin with | Aug 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | coal extraction is bad for health | Aug 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | coal burning too | Aug 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | and we probably spend much of that energy on crap we don't need | Aug 23 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It is. schestowitz I saw a train of nothing but coal going by the hotel the other day. | Aug 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | the liquid energy is used a lot in transport | Aug 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | planes, cars... | Aug 23 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Didn't look like it was in a big hurry to get where it was going though. | Aug 23 20:09 |
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| schestowitz | coal kills | Aug 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | it almost rhymes | Aug 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | respiratory problems can be linked to it | Aug 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's some coal mining in downstate Illinois. | Aug 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | even in young age | Aug 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it's too dirty for US coal plants to burn. | Aug 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | combine with other conditions and you might look at a million deaths over the decades | Aug 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We were selling it to China, I think. | Aug 23 20:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | China and the UK. | Aug 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | boats full of death trees | Aug 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | *dead | Aug 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | hey, what do the boats run on? | Aug 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Coal too? | Aug 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | use coal to transport coal to burn coal | Aug 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Diesel probably. | Aug 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Same thing the Greenpece boats run on so they can circle around oil rigs protesting them. | Aug 23 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *Greenpeace | Aug 23 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Offshore drilling has been unprofitable for years too, but things really went south this year. | Aug 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They weren't anticipating that demand for motor fuel in the US would go down 25%. | Aug 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | they received subsidies | Aug 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | so you pay twice over or double for oil you buy | Aug 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | part of the cost is hidden or delayed | Aug 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but apparently that's still not enough. | Aug 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | postponed until the offspring pay for it | Aug 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | TransOcean stock is down by 1/4th. | Aug 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, the Impala wasn't really made to run on E15, but I've been using it. | Aug 23 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There were just so many problems with it that mom was ignoring that all chipped away at gas mileage a bit. | Aug 23 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of them were dirt cheap to fix too. | Aug 23 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like $5 and $10 parts. | Aug 23 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's really a shame that the EPA never mandated that the car's check engine light comes on until you have a problem that goes way beyond gas guzzling. | Aug 23 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Imagine how much fuel is just wasted over things that are cheap fixes. | Aug 23 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like the car has a tire pressure sensor. The car knows when they tire is so low that it's negatively affecting gas mileage, but the stupid government doesn't require it to come on until your tires are getting damaged and just about ready to blow out. | Aug 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They could have set it to go "Hey stupid, your tires are 10% low. Put in some air!" but it waits until 25%. | Aug 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't cost to inflate, does it? | Aug 23 20:19 |
| schestowitz | gas station have (used to have?) pumps | Aug 23 20:19 |
| schestowitz | when I was driving | Aug 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have a hand pump that works just fine. | Aug 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | for a car? | Aug 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | those would suck | Aug 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can use it on a car, yeah. | Aug 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | would never get you the same pressure levels | Aug 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe the advanced bike ones, not the simple and cheap ones | Aug 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | with a long big hand pump | Aug 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if you do put $1 in the inflator at the gas station every once in a while, you're going to lose more money on gas (and tires) if you don't. | Aug 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just so simple. | Aug 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a Dodge truck for sale over by the Fastenal warehouse. | Aug 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it's a fleet vehicle. | Aug 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was considering taking a look at it. | Aug 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | i think I will take another glance at the Jones thing | Aug 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | some people now download the PDFs more | Aug 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | but... | Aug 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | sadly many are k00ks | Aug 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | like the qanon types | Aug 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I cannot control who reads or associates with these | Aug 23 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It depends on the year, as far as whether it's worth it or not. | Aug 23 20:24 |
| schestowitz | either way, we need more docs, and they do exist in the court's computers | Aug 23 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gonad had a 1998 that worked fine. He bought it and drive it until he died. | Aug 23 20:24 |
| schestowitz | some are as recent as 2018 | Aug 23 20:24 |
| schestowitz | last I checked in 2019 | Aug 23 20:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the car was a "he"? | Aug 23 20:25 |
| schestowitz | (joke) | Aug 23 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The order modifying the sentence would be interesting. | Aug 23 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They almost never let anyone off the sex offender list. | Aug 23 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Almost everyone petitions the court to be removed, but it just never happens. | Aug 23 20:25 |
| schestowitz | I just wait for you to request it | Aug 23 20:26 |
| schestowitz | We'll cover the cost | Aug 23 20:26 |
| schestowitz | it's valuable for us to host a public copy | Aug 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | and let people have access | Aug 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | the sooner, the better | Aug 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I tried | Aug 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The neighbor lady moved in a child molester when I lived in Huntington. | Aug 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | but it's a US system | Aug 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got him sent back to prison. | Aug 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | good | Aug 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He failed to register. I called the Huntington Sheriff and said "I know something you don't know!". | Aug 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | hopefully not a kids' prison | Aug 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh no. State, to serve another 5 years. | Aug 23 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then she comes crying to me saying "They came and arrested him!" and I was like "Oh no!". | Aug 23 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was blasting his stereo and the landlord wouldn't step in. | Aug 23 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So when I found out he was a Failure to Register and had 5 years suspended due to the parole...... | Aug 23 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | After they came and handcuffed him and hauled him away, no more loud stereo. | Aug 23 20:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Look, they'd have found him eventually. They always do. It's not my fault he was stupid enough to draw attention and make enemies. Many criminals are. | Aug 23 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they wonder why their probation officer or the Sheriff knows everything. | Aug 23 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Failure to Register is about the dumbest thing to go back to prison for. | Aug 23 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You're still on the registry with your last known address, but now you're a fugitive and you get whatever was left on your prison sentence. | Aug 23 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There's so many felons in Indiana that you can get a job somewhere, even with sex crimes. | Aug 23 20:34 |
| schestowitz | [20:29] <DaemonFC[m]> After they came and handcuffed him and hauled him away, no more loud stereo. | Aug 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | No more pedo next door, either | Aug 23 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Point is, there's a grain of truth to what goes around comes around. | Aug 23 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you piss people off who otherwise wouldn't have cared you were on the planet, they'll go find something. | Aug 23 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Trump's RNC speech is due to happen as two hurricanes make landfall at the same time. | Aug 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One in Louisiana and another in Florida. | Aug 23 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder what would have eventually became of the United States had the Revolutionary War not happened. | Aug 23 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Colonialism was eventually rejected as the subjects demanded more and more autonomy and eventually became states of their own anyway. | Aug 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz | the airbases would perish | Aug 23 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that the American Revolution was probably the most violent uprising against it. | Aug 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Which American revolution | Aug 23 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of the rest went on as the people subjected to it cooperated less and less and it became untenable. | Aug 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Bolivar's? | Aug 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | America is big | Aug 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Trump thinks they had planes during the civil war | Aug 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | and that spanish flu helped end ww2 | Aug 23 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Uh, no, but there was a submarine. | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | which came like a decade later | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | the world views the US as a laughing stock | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | primitive subs | Aug 23 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, "ironclad" battleships. | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | like one-man sub | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | with a bomb attached to it | Aug 23 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, the Hunley. | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | to attack british boats | Aug 23 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It had a crew, of like 7 I think. | Aug 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe after the revolutionary war | Aug 23 20:47 |
| schestowitz | and motored without padals | Aug 23 20:47 |
| schestowitz | pedals | Aug 23 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I was talking about the Civil War. | Aug 23 20:47 |
| schestowitz | uncivil war | Aug 23 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It got fucking ugly. | Aug 23 20:47 |
| schestowitz | head of the commission is connected to the confederates http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ | Aug 23 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights | Aug 23 20:48 | |
| schestowitz | even calls herself after that family | Aug 23 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The military losses alone were worse than what the United States suffered in World War 2. | Aug 23 20:48 |
| schestowitz | second am made it worse | Aug 23 20:48 |
| schestowitz | the feds won anyway | Aug 23 20:48 |
| schestowitz | but many people died | Aug 23 20:48 |
| schestowitz | so no real proof of 2nd am empowering the people | Aug 23 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, nobody won the Civil War. | Aug 23 20:49 |
| schestowitz | unless you want lots of corpses everywhere and a dead president | Aug 23 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing that ended up happening was that the federal government took the renegade states back and then gave itself more power than ever while the south had no representation that could stop it. | Aug 23 20:49 |
| schestowitz | compare to catalonia | Aug 23 20:50 |
| schestowitz | no shots fired | Aug 23 20:50 |
| schestowitz | and the delegates were removed | Aug 23 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The south could have done far more inside the system than they did by declaring secession and losing. | Aug 23 20:50 |
| schestowitz | charged with sedition | Aug 23 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, during the Civil War, most of the judges and other federal officials from the southern states who didn't leave voluntarily were impeached. | Aug 23 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The House and Senate expelled quite a few members. | Aug 23 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In modern times, if you do something really awful, they'll strip you of your voting rights on the floor and your committee assignments. | Aug 23 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'll be a member of the House but you won't be able to do anything until you decide to give up and resign. | Aug 23 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If the 10% rule is still in effect in 2022, I'm going to run for office. | Aug 23 20:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't know the federal courts would rule against Illinois like they did. | Aug 23 20:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I could have filed to run for the Illinois House of Representatives with only 50 valid ballot signatures. | Aug 23 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are asking for petition signatures outside Walmart still. | Aug 23 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I could have gotten enough that way probably. | Aug 23 20:54 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141277 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c1dd3b4f-c009-4b48-b12f-7854c7b09863] | Aug 23 20:55 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I think that a lot could be done with state laws to deal with Apple's T2 chip. | Aug 23 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Right to Repair came up once already and was defeated after Apple lobbying, but it didn't specifically address TPM chips that can lock the user out of a computer. | Aug 23 20:56 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141278 [https://pleroma.site/objects/204d32db-b898-4ffa-a217-2126a91491f1] | Aug 23 21:01 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:56] <DaemonFC[m]> Right to Repair came up once already and was defeated after Apple lobbying, but it didn't specifically address TPM chips that can lock the user out of a computer. | Aug 23 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft lobbying also | Aug 23 21:07 |
| schestowitz | capitalism 'works' when people take loans and buy loads of crap | Aug 23 21:08 |
| schestowitz | so repairs are not good in the short run | Aug 23 21:08 |
| schestowitz | for the 'owners' of the economy | Aug 23 21:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, that takes care of the bathroom. I got something done today. | Aug 23 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I stocked up on the disinfectant all purpose cleaner. Mandy says I'm lazy for clearing everything out of the bathroom and going in there with a respirator and two spray bottles and firehosing everything and letting it sit then going through a roll of paper towels wiping it all back down a few minutes later. | Aug 23 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Saves a lot of time. | Aug 23 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They got rid of maid service with COVID-19 and I wouldn't want them in here anyway. | Aug 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Now it's official https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2020/8/23/be136e85-32aa-4168-898a-27b72a96f68b.jpg | Aug 23 21:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/23/world/covid-19-coronavirus.html | Aug 23 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Covid-19 Updates: White House Claims a 'Therapeutic Breakthrough' Is Coming - The New York Times | Aug 23 22:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, it will be from the mypillow guy. | Aug 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jesus Christ saved him and now he's here to tell you about homeopathy. | Aug 23 22:40 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 23 22:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html | Aug 23 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | 207,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Outbreak - The New York Times | Aug 23 22:46 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 58,000 US deaths not attributed to Coronavirus vs. what the CDC expected from March 1st to August 1st. | Aug 23 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 18% over baseline. In the UK it's 24%. | Aug 23 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the UK is doing a worse job at tracking Coronavirus deaths. | Aug 23 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They have 5,300 deaths over normal that they have failed to account for, as to why. | Aug 23 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | [22:40] <DaemonFC[m]> Jesus Christ saved him and now he's here to tell you about homeopathy. | Aug 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | shock therapy | Aug 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | they die faster | Aug 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | from electrocution | Aug 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | cause of death: electrocution | Aug 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Bravo, Captain Pence | Aug 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | you nailed it against COVID | Aug 23 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/condemning-bad-code/ | Aug 23 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | Ed Black: " | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Although this book contains many explosive | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | revelations and embarrassing episodes about some | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | of our society’s most honored individuals and | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | institutions, I hope its contents will not be misused | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | or quoted out of context by special interests. | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Opponents of a woman’s right to choose could | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | easily seize upon Margaret Sanger’s eugenic | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | rhetoric to discredit the admirable work of | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Planned Parenthood today; I oppose such misuse. | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Detractors of today’s Rockefeller Foundation | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | could easily apply the facts of their Nazi | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | connections to their current programs; I reject the | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | linkage. Those frightened by the prospect of human | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | engineering could invoke the science’s eugenic | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | foundations to condemn all genomic research; that | Aug 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | would be a mistake. While I am as anxious as the | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | next person about the prospect of out-of-control | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | genomics under the thumb of big business, I hope | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | every genetic advance that helps humanity fight | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | disease will continue as fast and as furiously as | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | possible. | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | This is the right place to note that virtually all | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | | | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | and must be commended. Planned Parenthood | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | worked with me closely day after day, searching | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | for | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | and | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | faxing | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | documents, | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | continually | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | demonstrating their interest in the unvarnished | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | truth. The same can be said for numerous other | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | corporations and organizations. This is a book of | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | history, and corporate and philanthropic America | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | must be commended when they cooperate in an | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | investigation as aggressive and demanding as | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | mine. | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, of the scores of societies, corporations, | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | organizations and governmental agencies I | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | contacted around the world, only one obstructed | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | my work. IBM refused me access to its files. | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Despite this obstruction, I was able to demonstrate | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | that the race-defining punch card used by the SS in | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Nazi Germany was actually derived from one | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | developed for the Carnegie Institution years before | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Hitler came to power. | Aug 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 23:39 |
| Narrator | well, hitler was a england+usa plan;-) but they success was to huge;-) | Aug 23 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I need to go to the doctor. | Aug 23 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Found a swollen lymph gland under my armpit in the shower. | Aug 23 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably need some antibiotics. | Aug 23 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hated going to the doctor before there was COVID-19 and riots. | Aug 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz | good luck | Aug 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz | take sanitiser | Aug 23 23:59 |
| schestowitz | wear double mask/s | Aug 23 23:59 |
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