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| _I3^RELATIVISM | nnonsensical | Jan 24 00:00 |
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| _I3^RELATIVISM | wouldnt trust that guy | Jan 24 00:00 |
| psydroid | Did free software need a financial incentive in its early days? | Jan 24 00:00 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | that is diferent it is not a corporation psydroid | Jan 24 00:01 |
| psydroid | It's not about trusting him or not, he had some good points in his presentation, that's all | Jan 24 00:01 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | true | Jan 24 00:01 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | simple lincensing is important | Jan 24 00:01 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | I think would be smart to try to push creative commons to do so | Jan 24 00:02 |
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| _I3^RELATIVISM | there have been some openess to it in the past | Jan 24 00:02 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | similar to the cern licenses structur | Jan 24 00:02 |
| psydroid | Yes, but is free software about corporations first? I thought they only came around when they sensed money could be made from it and look what it got us to | Jan 24 00:03 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | ? | Jan 24 00:03 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | anyway | Jan 24 00:03 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | Add dual licensing scheme GPLv3 fork under crative commons software plus apache licensedor MIT under a fee /watch?v=vTsc1m78BUk | Jan 24 00:03 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | A strongly-reciprocal variant, CC-S-S. A weakly-reciprocal variant, CC-S-W. A permissive variant, CC-S-P. | Jan 24 00:03 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | the later to would be paid for | Jan 24 00:03 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | also goes well with an idea I started writing about yesterday mostly | Jan 24 00:04 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | https://libregit.org/GVRN/GVRNspec | Jan 24 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libregit.org | GVRN/GVRNspec - GVRNspec - LibreGit | Jan 24 00:04 | |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | <_I3^RELATIVISM "?"> you probably misunderstood my messages psydroid | Jan 24 00:05 |
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| psydroid | Probably because it's not always clear what you are saying | Jan 24 00:07 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | not everyone was born in a english golden basket | Jan 24 00:07 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | so such entitlement is defenately not helpfull | Jan 24 00:08 |
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| _I3^RELATIVISM | in other words english is not my native language | Jan 24 00:08 |
| psydroid | Maybe you could try to explain what you meant in another language you could more easily express yourself in | Jan 24 00:09 |
| GNUmoon | schestowitz__: Google is blackmailing Australia as they are threatening their entire business model (i.e. surveillance capitalism) with legislation that would force google to pay the media corporations for news content. | Jan 24 00:10 |
| GNUmoon | https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/22/google-threatens-to-shut-down-search-in-australia-if-digital-news-code-goes-ahead | Jan 24 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Google threatens to shut down search in Australia if digital news code goes ahead | Australian media | The Guardian | Jan 24 00:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | GNUmoon: yes, I saw | Jan 24 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | it's in latest techrgihts Daily Links, too | Jan 24 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146798 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2021/01/24/ | Jan 24 00:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | oops | Jan 24 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | wrong paste | Jan 24 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/memo-to-google-and-facebook-please-pack-your-bags-and-go.html | Jan 24 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Memo to Google and Facebook: please pack your bags and go | Jan 24 00:11 | |
| GNUmoon | ahh okay, I just saw it myself :) | Jan 24 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | in the bill gates-funded 'guardian' :-) | Jan 24 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | They always love going after "GAFA" | Jan 24 00:20 |
| vZS1 | GNU and Linux would not exist without GPL. We need AGPLV3 to deal with the clown problem. | Jan 24 00:24 |
| vZS1 | You need to make sure people can't just run away with your work without at least acknowledging that it's a derivative | Jan 24 00:25 |
| vZS1 | Complexity of the license is necessary because the law is complicated. | Jan 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and clowns are disingenuous | Jan 24 00:26 |
| vZS1 | GNU should relicense everything to AGPLV3 | Jan 24 00:27 |
| vZS1 | I've noticed that a lot of F-Droid programs are AGPLV3. They get it as mobile developers. People can't put their code in the clown and not give anything back to them. | Jan 24 00:29 |
| vZS1 | Because mobile software is particularly vulnerable to being hijacked by some clown service provider | Jan 24 00:30 |
| vZS1 | Whether we like it or not, mobile computing is going to be around for a while. We should have GNU software on mobile too. | Jan 24 00:31 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Jan 24 00:31 |
| schestowitz__ | what is "mobile software"? | Jan 24 00:31 |
| vZS1 | Why let the monopolies control our phones. GNU should be universal | Jan 24 00:31 |
| schestowitz__ | Software that would typically go on a small potable device? | Jan 24 00:31 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Jan 24 00:31 |
| vZS1 | As in mobile phones | Jan 24 00:32 |
| vZS1 | I guess that's old terminology now | Jan 24 00:32 |
| schestowitz__ | monopolists already control the lion's share of those devices types/form factor | Jan 24 00:32 |
| schestowitz__ | at OS and carrier level | Jan 24 00:32 |
| schestowitz__ | see BT | Jan 24 00:32 |
| vZS1 | They did with personal computers as well | Jan 24 00:32 |
| vZS1 | But GNU changed that | Jan 24 00:32 |
| vZS1 | And it can change this too | Jan 24 00:33 |
| schestowitz__ | I have come to the conclusion that the throttling is retaliatory and only got worse over time | Jan 24 00:33 |
| schestowitz__ | I now disable IPFS about half the daya | Jan 24 00:33 |
| schestowitz__ | I guess the strategy is, make things painful enough, unless the person gives up on it completely | Jan 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz__ | turns out, they even charged me for the engineer visits or equipment they sent | Jan 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz__ | no evidence (yet) of refunds | Jan 24 00:34 |
| psydroid | I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with mobile computers (a.k.a. phones), but some of the hardware decisions are bad and the tight control over the software running on them is inherently malicious | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | there are some problematic inherent thing about them | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | because they always are "on" and "connected" | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | to receive call | Jan 24 00:36 |
| psydroid | radios that can't be disabled | Jan 24 00:36 |
| vZS1 | There are projects out there working on liberating phones | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | and you move around them | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | AND | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | they share the location data | Jan 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | both carriers and OS vendors, app makers et. | Jan 24 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | etc. | Jan 24 00:37 |
| psydroid | yes, so we need to free them by running only free software that we control on them | Jan 24 00:38 |
| vZS1 | Projects like GrapheneOS and F-Droid are a step in the right direction | Jan 24 00:38 |
| vZS1 | All my F-Droid programs are GPLV3 | Jan 24 00:39 |
| psydroid | not Android, Sailfish, iOS or some other software that is primarily meant for spying on people | Jan 24 00:39 |
| vZS1 | When I get the time I'm moving over to GrapheneOS to test it out | Jan 24 00:40 |
| vZS1 | It's basically de-Googling Android | Jan 24 00:40 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | why not use unix in your device? | Jan 24 00:40 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | mobian? | Jan 24 00:40 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | pinephone | Jan 24 00:41 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | vZS1: | Jan 24 00:41 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/BvawYiG.jpg | Jan 24 00:41 |
| vZS1 | Realistically, you need to support what everybody uses | Jan 24 00:41 |
| vZS1 | There's a reason GNU reimplemented UNIX | Jan 24 00:41 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | nonsense | Jan 24 00:42 |
| vZS1 | Otherwise nobody would use GNU | Jan 24 00:42 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | android is mostly POSIX complaint | Jan 24 00:42 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | that argument doesnt hold | Jan 24 00:42 |
| vZS1 | It's the same for phones. You need to be able to support all the Android software people expect | Jan 24 00:42 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | anbox | Jan 24 00:43 |
| vZS1 | You can believe what you want to (: | Jan 24 00:43 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | for fringe | Jan 24 00:43 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | is not about believe but logic | Jan 24 00:43 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | you said otherwise noone use unix | Jan 24 00:43 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | but that doesnt hold | Jan 24 00:43 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | given android is kinda of POSIX complaint | Jan 24 00:44 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | so in a way UNIX | Jan 24 00:44 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | so I call nonsense | Jan 24 00:44 |
| vZS1 | I'm not going to argue further. | Jan 24 00:44 |
| MinceR | it would be better to have something that upholds the unix principles | Jan 24 00:44 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | this is not a argumrnt | Jan 24 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's looking like my spouse qualifies for a COVID shot in the next group, but I don't. | Jan 24 00:44 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | if you can support you claims vZS1 | Jan 24 00:44 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: in explosm better link directly to the image | Jan 24 00:45 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: as the web pages are malicious | Jan 24 00:45 |
| MinceR | ok | Jan 24 00:45 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | DaemonFC: astrazeneca vacine is pretty good | Jan 24 00:45 |
| MinceR | schestowitz__: in what way though? | Jan 24 00:45 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | try to avoid moderna and biotech though | Jan 24 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/22/tech/amazon-nlrb-union-election/index.html | Jan 24 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon is pushing for a milestone union vote to take place in person despite the pandemic - CNN | Jan 24 00:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "A union election was held in 2014 at a Delaware warehouse, but resulted in workers largely rejecting the effort." | Jan 24 00:47 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: is that a female he kicked? | Jan 24 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's amazing that after the lawyers get done hinting that the entire facility might close does that. | Jan 24 00:47 |
| schestowitz__ | amazon is really harmful to the economy | Jan 24 00:48 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | we need a revolution in how business is run | Jan 24 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: yes | Jan 24 00:49 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | concentration of power needs to be adressed | Jan 24 00:49 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | https://libregit.org/GVRN/GVRNspec | Jan 24 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Well, Mandy and I are trapped in Illinois for now. Part of that is because an extra couple dollars an hour may not sound like much and is, in fact, entirely undone by the cost of living here vs. Indiana, but Immigration uses the same income standards throughout the country. | Jan 24 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libregit.org | GVRN/GVRNspec - GVRNspec - LibreGit | Jan 24 00:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So even though the cost of living in Indiana is half as much as it is in San Francisco, you'll have an easier time with Immigration if you lived in San Francisco even if your living standard is the same or less, because the job must pay more. | Jan 24 00:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If we had gotten Mandy the same job in Indiana, he would have made almost $3 an hour less and then our income wouldn't be enough. So, there's no difference in living standard, but it's easier to get past Immigration living here and working here. | Jan 24 00:51 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: hopefully he is not a married man | Jan 24 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Slipping things through the system using paper and regulations and whatnot. It's not fun. In fact, it's just downright bizarre how it's possible for one of you to be bankrupt, then file a joint return with a tax rate of -1.3%, and then declare that you make almost $41,000 on immigration forms, and in all cases what you did was legally correct. | Jan 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: let's focus on tech, not personal tales | Jan 24 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I think it does explain how patent law works. It's like tax law, immigration law, bankruptcy law. It has baroque rules that almost invite creativity. | Jan 24 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And you can be entirely honest and pull off some real howlers. | Jan 24 00:56 |
| techrights-bot | Chocolate chip cookies https://explosm.net/comics/607/ | Jan 24 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Jan 24 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta Launched – Checkout Features & UI Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146715#comment-27950 | Jan 24 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21 Desktop Enters Beta, Here’s How to Test It Right Now | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It benefits attorneys because a lay person has almost no chance of looking at the law and figuring out a strategy. | Jan 24 00:57 |
| techrights-bot | #KDE Saw Many Fixes + Improvements On Top Of Shipping Plasma 5.21 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146786#comment-27949 | Jan 24 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: the Plasma 5.20 beta is here! | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot | Stable Kernels: 5.10.10, 5.4.92, 4.19.170, 4.14.217, 4.9.253 , and 4.4.253 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146799 •●• #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.10, 5.4.92, 4.19.170, 4.14.217, 4.9.253 , and 4.4.253 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jan 24 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #MXLinux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146802 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:58 | |
| *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Jan 24 00:58 | |
| techrights-bot | The State of #GNOME 40's Threaded Input http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146781#comment-27947 #gnu #linux #programming | Jan 24 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:59 | |
| techrights-bot | #EasyOS 2.4.1 review • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146795 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Easy OS 2.4.1 review | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:59 | |
| techrights-bot | Best #mathematics packages for Linux in 2021 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146796 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best mathematics packages for Linux in 2021 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:59 | |
| techrights-bot | $1 #PinePhone pogo pin breakout board lets you connect add-ons without removing the back cover • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146797 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $1 PinePhone pogo pin breakout board lets you connect add-ons without removing the back cover | Tux Machines | Jan 24 01:00 | |
| *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | Jan 24 01:00 | |
| techrights-bot | "Sustainable governance model by the means of a cryptotoken economy, rewarding contributors for their commits." https://libregit.org/GVRN/GVRNspec | Jan 24 01:01 |
| techrights-bot | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146798 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 01:02 | |
| techrights-bot | The "Q" https://i.imgur.com/BvawYiG.jpg | Jan 24 01:02 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz__: my ipfs node is on indefinitely, so as long as I can pull the index and objects at some point, there will be a fall-back. | Jan 24 01:04 |
| vZS1 | I only take that node offline for major maintenance of the host. It doesn't happen often. | Jan 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | schestowitz__: in what way is the explosm.net website malicious? | Jan 24 01:06 |
| techrights-bot | Essential Utilities: Flash OS Images • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146800 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential Utilities: Flash OS Images | Tux Machines | Jan 24 01:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146801 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 01:07 | |
| techrights-bot | In #russia they get away with it https://vk.com/video-29534144_456261451 #police #womanKilling | Jan 24 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-???'s Videos | VK | Jan 24 01:07 | |
| techrights-bot | It’s time to reject #Google ’s #WWW #monopoly (shared with other companies but still an #oligopoly ); removing its Web browser would be a good start http://techrights.org/2021/01/23/removing-google/ | Jan 24 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chromium and Chrome Are Not Free Software But an Example of Microsoft-Fashioned Openwashing Tactics | Techrights | Jan 24 01:08 | |
| techrights-bot | The full document that #INTC paid for and in turn used to justify cracking down on #freesw (obliterating #Freesoftware -based workflows inside #Intel ) http://techrights.org/2021/01/23/harbor-research-finale/ | Jan 24 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XXX: Harbor Research’s Pseudo-scientific ‘Research’ for Intel, Bizarrely Suggesting a Microsoft Partnership for a Domain Largely Controlled or Dominated by Linux | Techrights | Jan 24 01:08 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: a third parry that spies via JS | Jan 24 01:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and popups | Jan 24 01:09 |
| schestowitz__ | you must consent to see page | Jan 24 01:09 |
| schestowitz__ | my guess is, you turned off JS and thus aren't aware | Jan 24 01:09 |
| schestowitz__ | many cartoons nowadays do it | Jan 24 01:10 |
| MinceR | i block a lot of things | Jan 24 01:10 |
| schestowitz__ | to watch some lousy image you have to run lots of dodgy programs. Same for articles (text) for that matter... | Jan 24 01:10 |
| MinceR | js from other domains is among them | Jan 24 01:10 |
| schestowitz__ | this is why we push towards text only... | Jan 24 01:10 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't need anything but text and maybe one image to know the news | Jan 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | usually the images don't add much, like a mug of a perso | Jan 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Brave supports IPFS. Would be nice if they could get PC to Android phone sync working properly. | Jan 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | such 'news' sites also harm the environment | Jan 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I just need kate and rss feeds to read news | Jan 24 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a question on the IRS 1040 this year about have you in 2020 received a controlling interest or ownership in any cryptocurrency. | Jan 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: yes, we have everything now as ipfs | Jan 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | except videos | Jan 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | although vZS1 says some people convert our videos too into ipfs objects | Jan 24 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I never gave Brave my Social Security number so I have no way of actually taking possession of those BATs or trading them for USD. | Jan 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | apachelog says the server does about 10mb/sec because of videos | Jan 24 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nor do they have any way to report me to the IRS for BATs. | Jan 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | brave does some edgy things | Jan 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | its target audience is that.. | Jan 24 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In my honest opinion, I have no controlling interest in the BATs and wouldn't owe taxes on them anyway since they were all doled out to an IRS registered non-profit charity. | Jan 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Either the Tor Project or Wikipedia. | Jan 24 01:14 |
| vZS1 | Using Brave wouldn't make much of a difference because we don't prefix IPFS CIDs with "ipfs://" | Jan 24 01:14 |
| vZS1 | You're better off using the CLI or desktop UI | Jan 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I think the question is due to the government becoming concerned that crypto is being used by "terrorists". | Jan 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which translates to people aren't paying their taxes and it competes with the USD, therefore must be destroyed somehow. Yellen basically said as much and she'll be Treasury Secretary soon. | Jan 24 01:16 |
| vZS1 | Actually, they hate cash just as much | Jan 24 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, the banks always control fiscal stuff | Jan 24 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They do. | Jan 24 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: some places no longer accept it | Jan 24 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | even for plastic with water in it | Jan 24 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I expect several things to happen soon, schestowitz__. | Jan 24 01:16 |
| vZS1 | Anything anonymous is for "terrorists" | Jan 24 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | or for chewing gum | Jan 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | they expect you to use a credit card or debt card with plastic with water | Jan 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | *Debit | Jan 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1. The Treasury will start sanctioning Crypto exchanges that do not comply with existing tax laws, including FATCA. | Jan 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | the "Debt card" would be "credit" card | Jan 24 01:17 |
| vZS1 | I can still pay with cash on the bus | Jan 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2. The IRS will start to move towards auditing people who say "Yes.". | Jan 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: so you are not in London | Jan 24 01:17 |
| vZS1 | Nope. I'd rather not live in 1984 | Jan 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 3. Congress may even make it a crime for Americans to possess it. Why not? The government made it illegal to own significant quantities of gold for over 30 years, and gold was much bigger than crypto. | Jan 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All of these actions will make it undesirable because it will lose one of the biggest markets where it can legally operate. | Jan 24 01:19 |
| vZS1 | They announce to pay with card but most people ignore it here | Jan 24 01:19 |
| techrights-bot | FOSS Projects Live Off Community Support https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhIQ1638cOU #freesw #sharing | Jan 24 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Therefore, the value will plummet and MARISOL will have some worthless beans. | Jan 24 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSS Projects Live Off Community Support - YouTube | Jan 24 01:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The UK is talking of a crackdown and warning people they could "lose everything" with crypto too. | Jan 24 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So expect most countries to start coming down hard and cooperating with investigations into each other's citizens. | Jan 24 01:20 |
| techrights-bot | Use #libreoffice instead; nothing it cannot do that is widely done in 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH5JYshhtYg | Jan 24 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running MS OFFICE on Linux - Is it enough to justify paying for Wine? - YouTube | Jan 24 01:20 | |
| vZS1 | The USD is the currency of terrorism | Jan 24 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are losing confidence in fiat currency that central banks can inflate at will. | Jan 24 01:20 |
| vZS1 | In several ways | Jan 24 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have to stem this and the reason they're reacting so late in the game is because a lot of things go unregulated for years before the government fully appreciates that it should have stopped it ages ago. | Jan 24 01:21 |
| vZS1 | I never understood how you just print money at will | Jan 24 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no printing. You just say it exists. | Jan 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then it does. Magic! | Jan 24 01:22 |
| techrights-bot | Can we please stop helping #microsoft fake and manufacture the narrative about its competition? Many people and projects do not use #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly #github https://dwaves.de/2021/01/24/2021-01-russian-it-security-updates-cybercrime-as-a-service-csaas/ #deletegithub | Jan 24 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-» 2021-01 Russian IT Security Updates – cybercrime-as-a-service (CSaaS) | dwaves.de | Jan 24 01:22 | |
| vZS1 | But this is not my domain so I'm ignorant | Jan 24 01:22 |
| vZS1 | (not sarcasm) | Jan 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Less than 2% of the USD that the banking system claims are in circulation exist as cash. | Jan 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When the Coronavirus pandemic was new there was a cash shortage at the banks. | Jan 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They started giving me $20s and $10s because they were out of $50s and $100s. | Jan 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People panicked and made a run on the banks and there wasn't enough cash there to handle a very small bank run from maybe the 3-5% of the public that suddenly wanted to have more cash on hand. | Jan 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | vZS1: One option with the tax return is to buy a Savings Bond. It's the one way the Treasury still issues them on paper, I guess. | Jan 24 01:24 |
| vZS1 | Isn't that the assumption banks operate on? (People won't panic-withdraw) | Jan 24 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Savings Bonds are pointless because the interest rate is shit. Then when you go cash them you have to fill out more tax forms because it earned like $5 over 10 years. | Jan 24 01:25 |
| techrights-bot | #Boeing 737 MAX is a reminder of the REAL problem with #proprietarysoftware | Stop at Zona-M ⇨ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/boeing-737-max-is-a-reminder-of-the-real-problem-with-software/ | Jan 24 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Boeing 737 MAX is a reminder of the REAL problem with software | Stop at Zona-M | Jan 24 01:26 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <vZS1 "Isn't that the assumption banks "> It is, and we're not even operating on fractional reserve anymore. Part of the "reforms" to try to make credit easier to obtain during the emergency effectively has us on zero reserve banking now. | Jan 24 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if banks have any reserves, it's not really something they're encouraging. They look to monetize the customers in other ways by signing them up for loans and eating them alive with fees. | Jan 24 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They only need to have enough to pass their Fed stress test, so it's not the actual amount they need to survive their actual risk all going bad at once. | Jan 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's very close to zero in terms of the loans and the risks they took on those loans looking for potential profits. | Jan 24 01:27 |
| vZS1 | Let's hope they don't get bailed out again like they did in 2008. | Jan 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wells Fargo was worse than most banks are "before it was cool". | Jan 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd come in to cash my paycheck in the early 2000s and they were constantly trying to see if I wanted a home, car, or credit card loan. | Jan 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "We do student loans too, you know!" | Jan 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Credit scores are so easy to manipulate that mine's considered decent again just months after having a mountain of debt written off by a court. | Jan 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've all fucking forgotten what I did 5 months ago, just about. | Jan 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's how our system is. And people trade tips on how to game the credit scores, on the forums from the credit scoring companies. | Jan 24 01:31 |
| vZS1 | Everybody needs a hobby | Jan 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've had lower scores than this before just because I had no loans at all. | Jan 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's worse to not have any loans (for the score) than to have a bankruptcy. | Jan 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People talk about bankruptcy being a nuclear bomb for your credit score, but you can game it back up higher than someone with no bankruptcy who just doesn't use credit cards in a few months. | Jan 24 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They like to talk about how bankruptcy will make it impossible to get a mortgage for "2 years for most people", but all of my scores are high enough that I could get a mortgage right now. Wouldn't be the best mortgage ever, but I could get one, if I had enough underlying income. | Jan 24 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The pressure is not to reduce risk so much as it is to have as many open accounts as possible. | Jan 24 01:34 |
| vZS1 | Re: war on crypto currency. The Times outright mock it every chance they get. | Jan 24 01:38 |
| vZS1 | They must really hate it | Jan 24 01:38 |
| vZS1 | They = their owners | Jan 24 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John worked with a guy at the TSA who heats his apartment in the winter mining bitcoins. | Jan 24 01:42 |
| techrights-bot | [Older] #F2FS With #Linux 5.12 To Allow Configuring Compression Level https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=F2FS-Compression-Level-Next | Jan 24 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-F2FS With Linux 5.12 To Allow Configuring Compression Level - Phoronix | Jan 24 01:47 | |
| techrights-bot | #Linux 5.12 To Allow Voltage/Temperature Reporting On Some #ASRock Motherboards - Phoronix ⇨ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.12-ASRock-Some-Sensors •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12 To Allow Voltage/Temperature Reporting On Some ASRock Motherboards - Phoronix | Jan 24 01:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jan 24 01:49 | |
| techrights-bot | #GhostBSD 21.01.20 release note • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146803 •●• #BSD #UNIX #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GhostBSD 21.01.20 release note | Tux Machines | Jan 24 01:54 | |
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| techrights-bot | When #healthcare is reduced to a single number | Stop at Zona-M ⇨ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/when-healthcare-is-reduced-to-a-single-number/ "I had a “telehealth” doctor’s visit the other day. " | Jan 24 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | When healthcare is reduced to a single number | Stop at Zona-M | Jan 24 02:00 | |
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| techrights-bot | #BT #throttling of our connection is getting a lot worse and more severe over time. They refuse to tackle the problem. They just lack the capacity. Overwhelmed as they didn't invest in expanding. 1) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/06/coronavirus-bt/ 2) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/09/bt-is-down/ | Jan 24 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Coronavirus May Have Caused a Nationwide or Regional Congestion Crisis for BT | Jan 24 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » British Telecom Cannot Blame Coronavirus For Its Awful Customer ‘Care’ and Various Face-Saving Lies Disguised as ‘Support’ | Jan 24 02:04 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146804 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 24 02:05 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▃▄▄▃▃▄▄▄▅▃▆▄▄▅▃▄▅▆▅▄▄▄▄▄▅▄▃▄▄▅▆▂▃▄▅▂ avg(k/sec) 19.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▃▃█▇█▄▅▃▇▆▄▅▂▃▃▄▆▇▃▄▅▄▅▃▅▄▅▄▂▃█▅▄▃▄█▇ avg(k/sec) 31.85▕ swarm size (avg): 210.14 ⟲ | Jan 24 02:10 |
| techrights-bot | #KDE Goals – a year lost, a year gained • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146805 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Goals – a year lost, a year gained | Tux Machines | Jan 24 02:11 | |
| techrights-bot | #diffoscope 165 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-165-released/ #ReproducibleBuilds #security | Jan 24 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 165 released | Jan 24 02:12 | |
| techrights-bot | "This release brings several smaller tweaks and improvements to the summary report that had accumulated in my use since the last release last April." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/01/23#prrd_0.0.4 | Jan 24 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Jan 24 02:14 | |
| techrights-bot | #deletegithub https://vrurg.github.io/2021/01/22/Cro-RPC-JSON-Release don't make #rakulang dependent on censorious #proprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft | Jan 24 02:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vrurg.github.io | A New Release Of Cro::RPC::JSON - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg | Jan 24 02:16 | |
| techrights-bot | Also #deletegithub https://blog.beuc.net/posts/Android_Emulator_Rebuild/ we cannot liberate #android from #google by outsourcing to oppressive #proprietarySoftware prison of #microsoft | Jan 24 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.beuc.net | Android Emulator Rebuild | Jan 24 02:18 | |
| techrights-bot | "Due to the need to maintain physical distance in 2020, I created an online gift exchange for them to use during a book club videoconference." https://opensource.com/article/21/1/open-source-gift-exchange | Jan 24 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I programmed a virtual gift exchange | Opensource.com | Jan 24 02:19 | |
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| techrights-bot | "I personally learned when becoming general manager of the newly established IBM Internet Division in December of 1995" https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/01/the-surprising-power-of-business-experimentation.html | Jan 24 02:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Surprising Power of Business Experimentation | Jan 24 02:21 | |
| techrights-bot | Good News! You Can Start Using #MXLinux on #RaspberryPi [In Beta] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146802#comment-27953 #gnu #linux | Jan 24 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] | Tux Machines | Jan 24 02:22 | |
| techrights-bot | I have seen the laptop of the future | Stop at Zona-M ⇨ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/i-have-seen-the-laptop-of-the-future/ •●• #sbc breakthrough are hugely beneficial to #gnu #linux and #openhardware | Jan 24 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | I have seen the laptop of the future | Stop at Zona-M | Jan 24 02:23 | |
| techrights-bot | Oh. No, those won't run #microsoft #windows and don't need #intel to approve #patent licensing... https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/23/devebox-stm32h7-development-boards-are-made-for-factory-automation/ | Jan 24 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | DevEBox STM32H7 Development Boards are made for Factory Automation | Jan 24 02:24 | |
| techrights-bot | "Teams are systems too. Delays in operations that teams need to perform regularly are significant to their effectiveness. We should know what they are." https://benjiweber.co.uk/blog/2021/01/23/latency-numbers-every-team-should-know/ | Jan 24 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjiweber.co.uk | Latency Numbers Every Team Should Know - Benji's Blog | Benji's Blog - | Jan 24 02:25 | |
| techrights-bot | #ProprietarySoftware #CRACKED again https://dwaves.de/2021/01/23/sonicwall-hardware-vpns-hit-by-worst-case-0-zero-day-exploit-attacks/ #SonicWall | Jan 24 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-» SonicWall hardware VPNs hit by worst-case 0-zero-day-exploit attacks | dwaves.de | Jan 24 02:27 | |
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| techrights-bot | #RasPi is fantastic to have for #programming exercises, especially with a suitable HAT that can accomplish all sorts of useful and practical things. We programmed an #ipfs monitor with it, showing all sorts of things inc. alerts. | Jan 24 02:44 |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230121.txt Read the log now... | Jan 24 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | Jan 24 02:44 | |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230121.txt Read the log now... | Jan 24 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | Jan 24 02:44 | |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230121.txt Read the log now... | Jan 24 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | Jan 24 02:44 | |
| techrights-bot | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230121.txt Read the log now... | Jan 24 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | Jan 24 02:44 | |
| techrights-bot | #Biden #Bloomberg : when your political 'rival' ends up funding your campaign to the tune of 0.1 BILLION dollars you're not going to regulate and tax the super-rich, are you? http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ cheaper to bribe than to pay tax | Jan 24 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights | Jan 24 02:50 | |
| techrights-bot | #techrights presence and reach in #ipfs continues to grow as more nodes pin the articles and bulletins. Hopefully WWW/HTML/HTML can be deprecated one day. They've been destroyed/hijacked by monopolies at all levels. | Jan 24 02:53 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is ruining what was once known as #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/red-hat | Jan 24 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Layoffs - TheLayoff.com | Jan 24 02:54 | |
| MinceR | i thought it was ruined before ibm bought it | Jan 24 02:55 |
| schestowitz__ | I did not claim it was benign to begin with | Jan 24 02:55 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: see http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ | Jan 24 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | Techrights | Jan 24 02:56 | |
| techrights-bot | “We would all probably be better-off if they simply folded their tent and let the GNU organization get on with the real movement.” http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ | Jan 24 02:57 |
| techrights-bot | For a moment #Cheltenham thought it had cracked it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huteB2gvuew | Jan 24 02:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cheltenham Town vs Manchester City (1-3) | Nine minutes from huge upset | Emirates FA Cup Highlights - YouTube | Jan 24 02:59 | |
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| schestowitz__ | hm... did that fail? | Jan 24 03:02 |
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| schestowitz__ | seems like bulletin failed to generated automatically | Jan 24 03:08 |
| schestowitz__ | *be generated | Jan 24 03:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Oh, I see :-) | Jan 24 03:09 |
| schestowitz__ | too many images | Jan 24 03:09 |
| schestowitz__ | didn't finish generating them before the rsync | Jan 24 03:09 |
| schestowitz__ | need to change the script to give more time for images | Jan 24 03:09 |
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| techrights-bot | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-23.txt | Jan 24 03:11 |
| schestowitz__ | it took over 20 mins to generate Braille version of the leaks/images | Jan 24 03:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I guess an exceptional scenario, no need to space up the cron jobs for now | Jan 24 03:16 |
| schestowitz__ | rerunning the job now | Jan 24 03:16 |
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| techrights-bot | Later this year #techrights turns 15. Lockdowns likely to last that long though. http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Techrights-Birthday-14-Years/20200915_070218 | Jan 24 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20200915 070218 | Jan 24 03:20 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz, the radio was talking about IBM as an investment not looking good. It said they struggled to get cash strapped organizations to "abandon legacy systems" and use "the cloud". | Jan 24 03:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People should be looking for ways to resist, especially when it's not a major workload and they can handle it themselves with a laptop a some thumb drives. | Jan 24 03:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cloud document editing is another bubble. Right now, people are doing it, but Microsoft keeps proving that they can't make reliability guarantees and so anything you store there could be inaccessible not just randomly but for days at a time if you don't have a local copy and a program that can load the file. | Jan 24 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So why the fuck even use it? | Jan 24 03:27 |
| schestowitz__ | exactly | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | hype, lies | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | OK, DaemonFC[m], let's put it this way | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | the year is 1980 | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | you have an IBM mainframe | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | your staff logs in | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | edits a document | Jan 24 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | like a spreadsheet | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | exits | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | another logs in, edits some more | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | it's the "clown" editor | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | multiple users edit a spreadsheer | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | 1985 comes by | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | you get your staff a PC for the disk | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | *desk | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | with a disk (storage) | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they all get copies of that spreadsheet | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | then edit it | Jan 24 03:30 |
| schestowitz__ | 1995: the staff gets a laptop | Jan 24 03:31 |
| schestowitz__ | can take the spreadsheet to the train... the home... the airport | Jan 24 03:31 |
| schestowitz__ | no wifi yet | Jan 24 03:31 |
| schestowitz__ | so you got OUT of the "clown" (mainframe) | Jan 24 03:31 |
| schestowitz__ | not people can work from outside the clown | Jan 24 03:31 |
| schestowitz__ | but in 2020 apparently it's hip to go back to 1980 | Jan 24 03:32 |
| schestowitz__ | let's put all our stuff in some central computer we DO NOT EVEN OWN | Jan 24 03:32 |
| schestowitz__ | That's "PROGRESS!" | Jan 24 03:32 |
| schestowitz__ | I still need a soldering gun from friend, then >>solder and set up raspi<<, maybe one day a backup raspi... | Jan 24 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | this lockdown is awful | Jan 24 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | I spoke to friends of ours last night | Jan 24 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | they call it "home arrest" | Jan 24 03:33 |
| cybrNaut | what's so fucking bizarre about corps using the cloud for docs: trade secrets. It's actually the corporations that keep crypto alive to protect business secrets, and it's a rare phenomenon where natural ppl benefit (we get to encrypt things too). Then corps go and do something stupid like put their docs in the cloud | Jan 24 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | she (the partner of my friend) is a socialite, so it's hell for her | Jan 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | cybrNaut: they also put client records there | Jan 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | imagine you're an Assange lawyer | Jan 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and your firm (upstream) | Jan 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | backs up the staff to AWS overnight | Jan 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | or worse, does all document editing on US "clown" | Jan 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | US government can see all your docs and legal strategy/plan | Jan 24 03:35 |
| schestowitz__ | that's in breach of client privilege | Jan 24 03:35 |
| schestowitz__ | in the past I complained about them not using encrypting when mailing or emailing things | Jan 24 03:35 |
| schestowitz__ | never mind the NSA/GCHQ back doors on PCs they used | Jan 24 03:35 |
| schestowitz__ | now it's worse as they almost literally hand over the files/docs themselves on a silver platter to spy colluders | Jan 24 03:36 |
| cybrNaut | indeed, and lawyers tend to be low-tech. I had a lawyer who refused to use encryption.. I was so disgusted | Jan 24 03:36 |
| schestowitz__ | tell them they breach the law | Jan 24 03:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "privilege" | Jan 24 03:36 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m] has a spouse looking to settle in the US | Jan 24 03:36 |
| schestowitz__ | and all their info floats about on "clowns" | Jan 24 03:37 |
| schestowitz__ | big advantage for those looking for a pretext to reject applications | Jan 24 03:37 |
| schestowitz__ | as those docs often point out potential threats, weaknesses, grounds for disqualification | Jan 24 03:37 |
| cybrNaut | lawyers believe in the legal protections offered by atty-client priv, so they don't think they need technological protection.. it's a case of too must trust in their own industry | Jan 24 03:37 |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/07/15/encryption/ | Jan 24 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Lawyers Who Don’t Use Encryption When Suing Government Entities With Access to Intercepted Material (Mass Surveillance) | Jan 24 03:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | in the past they kept physical failed | Jan 24 03:38 |
| schestowitz__ | *filed | Jan 24 03:38 |
| schestowitz__ | so raids were the threat | Jan 24 03:38 |
| schestowitz__ | they would periodically shred files of old cases, based on the law | Jan 24 03:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Assange lawyers in Spain had his office raided | Jan 24 03:38 |
| schestowitz__ | *lawyer | Jan 24 03:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Balz* something | Jan 24 03:39 |
| schestowitz__ | raiding is a lot more crude and violent | Jan 24 03:39 |
| schestowitz__ | and causes backlash | Jan 24 03:39 |
| schestowitz__ | unlike sending a letter secretly to amazon to get access to some file or account | Jan 24 03:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Groklaw wrote about AWS T&Cs that allow such stuff | Jan 24 03:39 |
| schestowitz__ | it was run by an old paralegal | Jan 24 03:39 |
| cybrNaut | it may not be a problem in the future. I heard encrytion has recently become part of the law cirriculum | Jan 24 03:40 |
| schestowitz__ | well.. we'll see | Jan 24 03:44 |
| schestowitz__ | the media promotes 'fake' encryption | Jan 24 03:44 |
| schestowitz__ | that is, encryption between ends that aren't as intended | Jan 24 03:44 |
| schestowitz__ | so you share with X+gov | Jan 24 03:44 |
| schestowitz__ | or X+companies+gov | Jan 24 03:45 |
| schestowitz__ | never just Y->X->Y | Jan 24 03:45 |
| schestowitz__ | that's now e2ee | Jan 24 03:45 |
| cybrNaut | that article reminds me of a Florida case where the defense lawyers used a local print shop to copy docs. The prosecuter had a way of seeing the docs they were copying and it all got discovered | Jan 24 03:45 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/11/27/encrypt-with-e2ee-in-depth-article/ | Jan 24 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guarding Your Privacy With E2EE: Primer | Techrights | Jan 24 03:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | Groklaw is back online BTW http://groklaw.net/ | Jan 24 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jan 24 03:46 | |
| schestowitz__ | as of about a week or two ago | Jan 24 03:46 |
| schestowitz__ | was down for over 2 months | Jan 24 03:46 |
| cybrNaut | groklaw.net is down for me | Jan 24 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I talk about sensitive things in person with the attorney in the room. | Jan 24 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not over emails. | Jan 24 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That goes for any area of the law. | Jan 24 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Government reads emails and they would maybe get a heads up over what's going on in your case. Not smart. | Jan 24 03:48 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: intel has been cracked | Jan 24 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe they get a warrant for the emails as part of your case and then what do you do? | Jan 24 03:49 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Jan 24 03:49 |
| schestowitz__ | face to face better | Jan 24 03:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're on there talking to the lawyer about your legal strategies, what happened and how you'll spin it in court. | Jan 24 03:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and paper notes | Jan 24 03:49 |
| cybrNaut | DaemonFC[m]: sometimes you have to send a doc. choices are: fax, personal delivery, mail, .. and lawyers today can't handle crypto | Jan 24 03:49 |
| schestowitz__ | face to face | Jan 24 03:50 |
| schestowitz__ | like you give them a passport or bills | Jan 24 03:50 |
| schestowitz__ | common across many areas of operation | Jan 24 03:50 |
| cybrNaut | fax is still considered "secure" by the law & medical professions, even though it usually goes through email at one end or both ends | Jan 24 03:51 |
| schestowitz__ | fax is as secure as a phone conversation | Jan 24 03:51 |
| schestowitz__ | though I never saw documents about spy agencies intercepting fax transmissions | Jan 24 03:51 |
| schestowitz__ | thankfully ipfs is all encrypted, same for ssh | Jan 24 03:52 |
| schestowitz__ | so much of the essential work we do goes through secure channels | Jan 24 03:52 |
| schestowitz__ | except emails without pgp | Jan 24 03:52 |
| schestowitz__ | protonmail uses pg | Jan 24 03:52 |
| schestowitz__ | pgp | Jan 24 03:52 |
| schestowitz__ | but... | Jan 24 03:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I think the company keeps the private keys of its users (I did not check) | Jan 24 03:53 |
| cybrNaut | yeah, protonmail keeps the pvt keys, but the keys themselves are encrypted.. so, as long as you can trust the javascript not to send your p/w back, you're fine | Jan 24 03:54 |
| cybrNaut | Targeted ppl should worry about that possibility.. normies, not so much | Jan 24 03:54 |
| cybrNaut | ElectronMail adds a shred of confidence to Protonmail, b/c you don't blindly use whatever javascript the server sends | Jan 24 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "the media promotes 'fake' encryp"> Yeah, like Washington Post mentioning WhatsApp. Oh my god.... | Jan 24 03:56 |
| schestowitz__ | lol | Jan 24 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyone who leaks classified documents over WhatsApp (Facebook) is gonna be having a bad day in court. | Jan 24 03:57 |
| cybrNaut | with ElectronMail you have to trust those working on that github-hosted FOSS project, | Jan 24 03:57 |
| schestowitz__ | 'FOSS' | Jan 24 03:57 |
| schestowitz__ | managed by proprietary | Jan 24 03:57 |
| schestowitz__ | hosted on Microsoft servers (NSA PRISM) | Jan 24 03:57 |
| schestowitz__ | subjected to takedown by the cartel of Hollywood | Jan 24 03:58 |
| schestowitz__ | without due process | Jan 24 03:58 |
| schestowitz__ | like Signal :-) | Jan 24 03:58 |
| schestowitz__ | and IPFS :( | Jan 24 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This version of Windows 10 is one of the SKUs that lets you turn Telemetry down to Security-only. | Jan 24 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On most of them, it treats 0 as if it was "Basic Telemetry" or setting 1. | Jan 24 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Security-only is the lowest any SKU officially lets you set it, and it's apparently "If Windows Defender needs to gather cloud intelligence about potential malware." and "Whether Windows is installing updates correctly.". | Jan 24 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyone who is using an Insider Build is stuck at Full Telemetry no matter what they set it at. | Jan 24 04:00 |
| cybrNaut | ElectronMail is still safer than straight web access to protonmail, b/c protonmail can be forced to send malicious j/s to you specifically when you connect. But you can anonmously grab a copy of ElectronMail, so they would have to compromise everyone or no one. | Jan 24 04:01 |
| cybrNaut | one could inspect the ElectronMail code themself, and then not upgrade. But with web access, you'd have to inspect that j/s everytime you connect | Jan 24 04:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Who is behind ElectronMail? | Jan 24 04:04 |
| schestowitz__ | It that a service or software? | Jan 24 04:04 |
| schestowitz__ | when dealing with what you call "web access" you deal with a web browser | Jan 24 04:05 |
| cybrNaut | it's software from a 3rd party not associated to Protonmail | Jan 24 04:05 |
| schestowitz__ | and I don't think too highly of browsers most people use | Jan 24 04:05 |
| schestowitz__ | if the address bar is a keylogger | Jan 24 04:05 |
| cybrNaut | https://github.com/vladimiry/ElectronMail | Jan 24 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - vladimiry/ElectronMail: Unofficial ProtonMail Desktop App | Jan 24 04:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | and if they send your passwords to the "clown" | Jan 24 04:05 |
| schestowitz__ | then who knows what else they do... | Jan 24 04:06 |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, January 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jan 24 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jan 24 04:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jan 24 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jan 24 04:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▄▆▆▅▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▇▄▅▄▅▅▃▆▃▇▄▃▅▅▅▄▄▃▅▅▄ avg(k/sec) 24.11 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▇▄▄▅▅▄▅▅▄█▄▆▅▄█▆▇▃▄▄▄▄▄▃▄▄▅▄▄▄▄▅█▄▅▄▄ avg(k/sec) 27.35▕ swarm size (avg): 213.66 ⟲ | Jan 24 04:10 |
| cybrNaut | btw, advanced users need not have a protonmail acct to talk to PM users. So I sometimes convince novices to create an acct there, and I use my own MUA and pgp key to correspond with them. That's what I like about PM. tutanota can't support that | Jan 24 04:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I dread what people use for document drops | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | like... | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | not tor | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | even if you use https and an open wifi connection | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | somewhere public | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the browser itself is not trustworthy | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the state has made it really hard to become truly anonymous | Jan 24 04:13 |
| schestowitz__ | bt had us accept some shitty new 'smart' hub | Jan 24 04:14 |
| schestowitz__ | and it no longer even allows open wifi | Jan 24 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | securedrop is what The Washington Post recommends. | Jan 24 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably ran by the CIA or NSA. | Jan 24 04:14 |
| schestowitz__ | they remotely see who connects to it and read it out to me over the phone | Jan 24 04:14 |
| schestowitz__ | WaPo=bezos=cia contracts | Jan 24 04:14 |
| schestowitz__ | When Manning came to WaPo they spurned her | Jan 24 04:14 |
| schestowitz__ | War crimes? Corruption? NOT INTERESTED. | Jan 24 04:15 |
| schestowitz__ | "Wait, is it about TRUMP? SEND IT!" | Jan 24 04:15 |
| schestowitz__ | leaks over email or www are risky | Jan 24 04:16 |
| schestowitz__ | because of the mail and browser 'clients' | Jan 24 04:16 |
| schestowitz__ | suppose you have ipfs set up | Jan 24 04:16 |
| schestowitz__ | and then you add some CID | Jan 24 04:16 |
| schestowitz__ | then all you need to leak is that CID | Jan 24 04:16 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure if its origins can be traced back and who by | Jan 24 04:17 |
| *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Jan 24 04:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | it propagates https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmdEp9s38sSgwz9MZrpXMHub3kDtSSgHf69MJzMq89iF4R | Jan 24 04:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I've just turned off ipfs here | Jan 24 04:18 |
| schestowitz__ | and this is still online | Jan 24 04:18 |
| schestowitz__ | the riddle is, how to add a CID/object anonymously | Jan 24 04:18 |
| schestowitz__ | 2019: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/6430 | Jan 24 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anonymous IPFS · Issue #6430 · ipfs/go-ipfs · GitHub | Jan 24 04:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Washington Post doesn't even suggest using Tor, I noticed. | Jan 24 04:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't have a Tor drop box. | Jan 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/6ukurz/ipfs_and_illegal_content/ | Jan 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz__ | '" | Jan 24 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | IPFS and illegal content : ipfs | Jan 24 04:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | If I understood correct - you can't delete or block file in a ipfs, so it makes it the perfect replacement for torrent network. Right? | Jan 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz__ | So why there is still no ipfs trackers of hashes and no one is yelling "Block it for a God sake, block it, we losing money, noooooo!"? | Jan 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://flyingzumwalt.gitbooks.io/decentralized-web-primer/content/avenues-for-access/lessons/tor-transport.html | Jan 24 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flyingzumwalt.gitbooks.io | Lesson: Run IPFS over Tor transport (experimental) · Decentralized Web Primer | Jan 24 04:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, the more they tighten their grip, the more "restricted content" will slip through their fingers. Making inferior courts for copyright is just going to scare the fuck out of everyone and it's the best advertisement for a VPN to date. | Jan 24 04:21 |
| schestowitz__ | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12719771 | Jan 24 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | IPFS is not an anonymity network. | Hacker News | Jan 24 04:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | "In fact, IPFS via the DHT, tells the network of your whole network topology, including internal address you may have, and VPN endpoints too." | Jan 24 04:22 |
| schestowitz__ | tl;dr: | Jan 24 04:22 |
| schestowitz__ | no real anonymity in ipfs | Jan 24 04:22 |
| schestowitz__ | wrong tool for that job | Jan 24 04:22 |
| schestowitz__ | just censorship resistance and load-balancing | Jan 24 04:22 |
| schestowitz__ | better idea | Jan 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz__ | advertise postal address | Jan 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz__ | send usb drives to it | Jan 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz__ | downsides: the state can then flag you as receiving leaks | Jan 24 04:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It really seems more like Gnutella in concept. | Jan 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz__ | and then open things in transit | Jan 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz__ | usb drives can have stuff added to them offline | Jan 24 04:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the end, all sorts of illegal things ended up on Gnutella and the feds were raiding people and the copyright lawsuits flew. | Jan 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: yes, it is like p2p | Jan 24 04:24 |
| schestowitz__ | but a bit better | Jan 24 04:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then, in a way IPFS probably doesn't relate, the hash collisions that allowed people to slip you corrupt files to aggravate you and make you give up trying to use Gnutella. | Jan 24 04:24 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: my ISP seems to throttle is really badly | Jan 24 04:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and worse over time | Jan 24 04:25 |
| schestowitz__ | even though total bandwidth is small | Jan 24 04:25 |
| schestowitz__ | seems retaliatory | Jan 24 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they're using indecency laws to strip amateur porn off the internet. | Jan 24 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's too risky to end up hosting 1 bad file among a million others, so they're getting rid of it. I guess it served its purpose. It got a whole lot of people using a few sites that paid people click pennies to upload their bedroom videos. | Jan 24 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You notice that the credit card companies cut off the revenue a couple months before Facebook and Twitter started making political crackdowns? | Jan 24 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not illegal content either. Just they don't want people making non-mainstream political comments. | Jan 24 04:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now Facebook and Twitter are removing progressive politics. Deplatforming the whole damned thing. It's not going to work out well for them. People will discover the fediverse and give up trying to use the Corporate Shithole Social Media. | Jan 24 04:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: It's all related. The porn, the politics.... The purges. It's all designed to turn the web into a sanitized corporate cesspit plus government spooks. | Jan 24 04:29 |
| *cybrNaut got kicked off Twitter for warning ppl about the harms of CloudFlare | Jan 24 04:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Really? | Jan 24 04:29 |
| schestowitz__ | wow | Jan 24 04:29 |
| schestowitz__ | latest https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/01/23/pers-j23.html | Jan 24 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Facebook purges left-wing pages and individuals - World Socialist Web Site | Jan 24 04:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The USCIS is cracking down on people who admit they've ever been a Communist. | Jan 24 04:31 |
| cybrNaut | I can only guess.. it was my main activity. It wasn't a strict boot, but rather "we think you're a robot.. tell us your mobile ph# to continue". Without the will to go through that red tape, it was in effect like getting kicked off | Jan 24 04:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't be admitted into the US as a permanent resident if you've been associated with a Communist party. I was joking with the lawyer. "Communist Party? Really....?". | Jan 24 04:32 |
| MinceR | they prefer national socialists | Jan 24 04:32 |
| schestowitz__ | https://epicyon.freedombone.net/@bob/105605793565967273 | Jan 24 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://epicyon.freedombone.net/@bob/105605793565967273 ) | Jan 24 04:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told Mandy that if they ask him if he's been a member of any "organizations" to just say no. | Jan 24 04:33 |
| schestowitz__ | MPA | Jan 24 04:33 |
| schestowitz__ | NPA I mean | Jan 24 04:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Up through the 80s, being gay made you inadmissable. | Jan 24 04:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And a National Security Threat. | Jan 24 04:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was based on the concept that being gay is a mental illness and we don't need more crazy people here. | Jan 24 04:34 |
| cybrNaut | https://web.archive.org/web/20201222195411/https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/1/249457-does-facebook-use-sensitive-data-for-advertising-purposes/fulltext | Jan 24 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Does Facebook Use Sensitive Data for Advertising Purposes? | January 2021 | Communications of the ACM | Jan 24 04:35 | |
| cybrNaut | ^Facebook is tracking who is gay | Jan 24 04:35 |
| cybrNaut | and there are 12 countries that have the death penalty for being gay | Jan 24 04:35 |
| cybrNaut | hopefully FB doesn't rat any of them out | Jan 24 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/01/23/pand-j23.html | Jan 24 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Biden claims “there is nothing we can do” to halt mass death from coronavirus - World Socialist Web Site | Jan 24 04:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Chicago Teachers Union is threatening to strike unless the state of Illinois can get them all vaccinated. | Jan 24 04:38 |
| schestowitz__ | “We’ve Let the Worst Happen”: Reflecting on 400,000 Dead https://www.propublica.org/article/weve-let-the-worst-happen-reflecting-on-400-000-dead the survivors will have their lives massively shortened, too | Jan 24 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | “We’ve Let the Worst Happen”: Reflecting on 400,000 Dead — ProPublica | Jan 24 04:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: what vaccinated? | Jan 24 04:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can't and it won't even tell them what a reasonable timeline is even though we're "supposedly almost finished with Phase 1a.". | Jan 24 04:38 |
| schestowitz__ | which vaccine? | Jan 24 04:38 |
| schestowitz__ | the experiments? | Jan 24 04:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Phase 1b is going to be the big problem. | Jan 24 04:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The 1b group is about a dozen times bigger than the 1a group, which took over a month. | Jan 24 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if we can double the number of people getting vaccinated going forward, it would take 6 months to get through 1b. No less. | Jan 24 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it'll be July or so assuming no hiccups, before anyone under 65 who is not a "frontline worker" (part of 1b) can get a vaccine. | Jan 24 04:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The Biden Administration is using the Defense Production Act to require more production of those syringes that can extract more doses from a vial. | Jan 24 04:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But even if we get as many of those as we need, that only improves the number of doses we can get by 20% of the number of vials being produced vs. the 5 doses they were supposed to contain. | Jan 24 04:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The best way to ration would be to have given it to healthcare workers, but not nursing home residents, and "essential workers" in phase 1a. | Jan 24 04:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those nursing home residents aren't contributing to spread, they're getting it because the staff is bringing it in with them. | Jan 24 04:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You should shut down the vectoring through the staff and then you free up millions of doses for people who have to go to work and deal with the public. | Jan 24 04:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And part of the reason we're done with 1a so early isn't because we've achieved 100% vaccination. We've gotten maybe 70% of nursing home residents and half the staff members to take the vaccine voluntarily. | Jan 24 04:44 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | The Scale of Loss: 400,000 Dead https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/23/scale-loss-400000-dead | Jan 24 04:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we're calling it good and moving on, even though this won't stop the nursing home crisis. | Jan 24 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Scale of Loss: 400,000 Dead | Jan 24 04:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Face masks don't seem to be slowing the spread as much as I had hoped. | Jan 24 04:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They seem to be far more effective against the flu than with the coronavirus. | Jan 24 04:45 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #MPA Seeks Network Engineer to Help Expose Online Pirates https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-seeks-network-engineer-to-help-expose-online-pirates-210123/ | Jan 24 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MPA Seeks Network Engineer to Help Expose Online Pirates * TorrentFreak | Jan 24 04:46 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #CopyrightTrolls ☞ Anti-Piracy Group: #CopyrightTrolling is a "Stain On The Fight Against Illegal Content" https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-copyright-trolling-a-stain-on-the-fight-against-illegal-content-210123/ | Jan 24 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Group: Copyright Trolling is a "Stain On The Fight Against Illegal Content" * TorrentFreak | Jan 24 04:46 | |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: so assuming you need to buy food, how to avoid it? | Jan 24 04:47 |
| schestowitz__ | quieter times at the shops? | Jan 24 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, it's as busy at Walmart as ever. | Jan 24 04:47 |
| schestowitz__ | the cases here grew a lot, I can now assume well over 10% have had it or still have it | Jan 24 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state is cracking down on indoor dining even though that's hardly a problem. | Jan 24 04:48 |
| schestowitz__ | so don't go to walmart | Jan 24 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The virus will spread through whatever is open. | Jan 24 04:48 |
| schestowitz__ | some small locals stores which barely survive can be quiet some days and times | Jan 24 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: That's why I'm trying to get Mandy to take the vaccine. | Jan 24 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll get it whenever they let me. | Jan 24 04:48 |
| schestowitz__ | what vaccine? | Jan 24 04:48 |
| schestowitz__ | the clinical trials? | Jan 24 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whichever one they have. | Jan 24 04:48 |
| schestowitz__ | sputnik? | Jan 24 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: COVID has been inching closer and we've been lucky to have avoided it this long. | Jan 24 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | the results on those experiments are due in summer | Jan 24 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: maybe you already had it | Jan 24 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | without symptoms | Jan 24 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and antibodies tests aren't so reliable | Jan 24 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. if you had it a year ago | Jan 24 04:49 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #Chicago Teachers Are Voting on Whether to Defy City's Divisive Reopening Plans https://truthout.org/articles/chicago-teachers-are-voting-on-whether-to-defy-citys-divisive-reopening-plans/ | Jan 24 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Chicago Teachers Are Voting on Whether to Defy City's Divisive Reopening Plans | Jan 24 04:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.mintpressnews.com/teachers-unions-berated-trump-for-reopening-schools-now-theyre-praising-biden-for-doing-the-same/274667/ | Jan 24 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Teachers Union Berated Trump for Reopening Schools, Now It's Praising Biden For Doing the Same | Jan 24 04:51 | |
| techrights-bot | Cameron Kaiser: #TenFourFox FPR30 SPR1 available http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/01/tenfourfox-fpr30-spr1-available.html #mozilla #deletegithub #apple | Jan 24 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: TenFourFox FPR30 SPR1 available | Jan 24 04:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #SeaMonkey on #Pi4 no longer freezes https://bkhome.org/news/202101/seamonkey-on-pi4-no-longer-freezes.html #gnu #linux | Jan 24 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | SeaMonkey on Pi4 no longer freezes | Jan 24 05:00 | |
| techrights-bot | Nouveau X.Org Driver Sees First Release In Two Years • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146806 | Jan 24 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau X.Org Driver Sees First Release In Two Years | Tux Machines | Jan 24 05:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I wouldn't link to some of those websites. I'm concerned about the optics at this point. | Jan 24 05:03 |
| techrights-bot | #Nouveau #XOrg Driver Sees First Release In Two Years • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146806 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jan 24 05:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems if Congress is going to keep making exceptions to the 10 year ban on officers retiring then overseeing the Pentagon, then it should just repeal the law. I suppose it does still do some good. | Jan 24 05:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The House effectively has to confirm the appointment as well. | Jan 24 05:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing in the Constitution that says that Congress couldn't pass a law requiring the House as well as the Senate to confirm presidential cabinet members. | Jan 24 05:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just says that Senate confirmation is constitutionally required. | Jan 24 05:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's only an exclusive power of the Senate because Congress hasn't passed a law that requires the House to approve it as well. | Jan 24 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think after Trump, we need a law that requires House and Senate approval of Cabinet and judicial appointments. | Jan 24 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | An additional safeguard certainly couldn't hurt. It's less likely that both chambers of Congress will be under the control of the President's party, so the Democrats would ultimately wield more power under a future Republican president | Jan 24 05:07 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: which sites? TF? | Jan 24 05:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The socialist one. | Jan 24 05:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US really has some nerve complaining about China's National Security Law and then effectively doing the same thing here. | Jan 24 05:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You notice that Biden wants a Domestic Terror Law, but it seems to me they aren't having any trouble grabbing those people who were at the Capitol Riot. | Jan 24 05:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or figuring out multiple felony charges, for that matter, and some misdemeanors because why not. | Jan 24 05:09 |
| schestowitz__ | It was not a riot | Jan 24 05:10 |
| schestowitz__ | it was insurrection | Jan 24 05:10 |
| schestowitz__ | BLM had riots | Jan 24 05:10 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▄▆▆▅▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▇▄▅▄▅▅▃▆▃▇▄▃▅▅▅▄▄▃▅▅▄ avg(k/sec) 24.11 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▇▄▄▅▅▄▅▅▄█▄▆▅▄█▆▇▃▄▄▄▄▄▃▄▄▅▄▄▄▄▅█▄▅▄▄ avg(k/sec) 27.35▕ swarm size (avg): 208.23 ⟲ | Jan 24 05:10 |
| schestowitz__ | in some places there would be capital punishment for what people did in the Capitol | Jan 24 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody is arresting people for speech just yet, but "de-platforming" and ending up on a list is easier I guess. | Jan 24 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I think the charges a lot of them will face include sedition (20 years), conspiracy (5 years) and 3-4 misdemeanors (a year or so each). | Jan 24 05:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we may be talking 20-25 years in federal prison, tops. | Jan 24 05:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 10-15 with good behavior. | Jan 24 05:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say there won't be any plea deals. We'll see. | Jan 24 05:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not doing plea deals is just not how things get done here, but I guess not offering plea deals is a possibility. | Jan 24 05:12 |
| techrights-bot | When a lot of people/groups rely on #aws and #facebook or #twitter for their "activism" it'll be people like #bezos #zuckerberg and @jack who will decide (along with the billionaire class) what kind of activism is "permissible" | Jan 24 05:18 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: these precedents will be interesting | Jan 24 05:20 |
| schestowitz__ | when 'plebs' or 'peasants' as you call them decide to invade or march on oligarchs' home | Jan 24 05:20 |
| schestowitz__ | which they can do | Jan 24 05:20 |
| schestowitz__ | what would police do? Open fire on them? | Jan 24 05:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wouldn't be the first time. | Jan 24 05:20 |
| schestowitz__ | They just rely on socialcontrolmedial for intel | Jan 24 05:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People used to get shot at for demanding 40 hour weeks, overtime, and child labor laws. | Jan 24 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The oligarchs don't care about any of that. It worked until they passed their free trade deals. Stallman calls them Business Supremacy Treaties. | Jan 24 05:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The working class had their moment in the sun and now, in America, it's like the roaring 20s and the Depression at the same time. | Jan 24 05:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7yzi1I_Zsk | Jan 24 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin - Owners of the Country - YouTube | Jan 24 05:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | he mentioned "pension" | Jan 24 05:22 |
| schestowitz__ | and "social security" | Jan 24 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A massive jobs and public health crisis while the elite have added another trillion dollars to their wealth. | Jan 24 05:23 |
| schestowitz__ | afaik, that was before 2008 crash | Jan 24 05:23 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: wealth is power | Jan 24 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Yeah, you notice how when I try to minimize our taxes to the state, we get called bad things. | Jan 24 05:23 |
| schestowitz__ | so they get even more control on the system, to resist reform | Jan 24 05:23 |
| schestowitz__ | this always ends up in riots | Jan 24 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When rich people deduct themselves to a few hundred bucks in taxes, it's just "what anyone would do". | Jan 24 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the law! (their law) | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | one might joke | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | and JOKE | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | I mean it totally satirically | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | that the COVID lockdown thing | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | is like a drill | Jan 24 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The way I see things is if I can deduct us to zero, good. I'm getting everything we pay for. LOL | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | oligarchs having overstretched capitalism and debt | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | the debt is their wealth | Jan 24 05:24 |
| schestowitz__ | they deposit the public debt | Jan 24 05:25 |
| schestowitz__ | store it offshore | Jan 24 05:25 |
| schestowitz__ | the virtual currency.. of power | Jan 24 05:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and now they check how to keep people imprisoning themselves | Jan 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: If you don't make at least $24,800 as a married couple, you definitely don't pay federal income tax. | Jan 24 05:25 |
| schestowitz__ | while shaming those who leave the home-dash-prison | Jan 24 05:25 |
| schestowitz__ | notice I'm joking here | Jan 24 05:25 |
| schestowitz__ | not suggesting that this is all planned and intended | Jan 24 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And if you make between that and about $50,000 then you don't pay more than 2-3%. That's an improvement under Trump. | Jan 24 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the rich made off with a lot more. | Jan 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz__ | but some took the cause-effect and reversed it | Jan 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz__ | so covid becomes just "conspriacy" | Jan 24 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: My mom is so ignorant. I told her what Capital Gains tax was and she was outraged. | Jan 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz__ | world power dynamics are shifting and it's painful to many | Jan 24 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "You mean if you make it as investment income you pay half the rate I do as a nurse!?" | Jan 24 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Yeah. It's 15% under Trump, and he lowered it from 20%.". She goes, "I pay 28%!!!!". | Jan 24 05:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Yeah, when you find out how the system works, you're not such a fan of those Republican laws anymore are you?". | Jan 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz__ | how much do bezos and gates pay? | Jan 24 05:28 |
| schestowitz__ | 40%, right? ;-) | Jan 24 05:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most rich people aren't clocking in and out at the salt mines, Roy. They make it as "investments" and pay "Capital Gains", and you can deduct from that. | Jan 24 05:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Very creatively deduct. So it's not even 15%. I mentioned that to her too. | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | "job creators!" | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | "big government" | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | "MAGA!" | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | "jesus saves!" | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | jesus has a savings account | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | he saves | Jan 24 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With his 10% off card from Walmart. | Jan 24 05:29 |
| schestowitz__ | will redeem his pension after the second ressurection | Jan 24 05:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jesus is nearing your car with your groceries and sex lube. | Jan 24 05:30 |
| schestowitz__ | *Resurrection | Jan 24 05:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I'm considering setting up a Roth account for Mandy when this unpleasantness with the USCIS people is over. | Jan 24 05:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't see the point of using a pre-tax retirement savings account when you're already paying very low tax rates and they'll probably go up in the future. | Jan 24 05:32 |
| techrights-bot | #bt refund of 29.99 pounds is still due, not showing up in my account at all, instead they just bill me for some of their failed attempts to 'fix' their own problems. What utter failure of a service. #btuk | Jan 24 05:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a better idea for most people who can save right now to do a Roth because the rates in the future will have to be higher to fund the government. | Jan 24 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The debt it's accumulating now is going to be quite painful when rates rise. | Jan 24 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they're going to crack down harder on the middle class. | Jan 24 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois middle class getting a sneak preview with that Tax Hike Bill that takes away your standard deduction at a certain income level. It'll get worse. The Progressive Tax failed, but there are now court-upheld ways of raising taxes and calling them "flat". | Jan 24 05:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Madigan Tax Hike didn't use that particular provision to raise much revenue. There simply aren't enough individuals in Illinois making over $250,000 that getting $117 out of each of them is going to make any real difference to the state. | Jan 24 05:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was about establishing that a phase out is constitutional and that "See, it sucks for them too." even when it was more about a 26% permanent tax increase for everyone else. | Jan 24 05:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Roth? what's that except german red? | Jan 24 05:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A Roth IRA is where you put money that's already been taxed into an investment account for retirement. Then assuming you take it out after a certain age, the investment gains are not subject to being taxed again. They've been around since 1997 and were named after a US Senator who introduced the law. | Jan 24 05:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A Traditional IRA is where you put money in, deduct that money from your taxes this year, and then the whole thing is taxable later on. | Jan 24 05:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When you go to withdraw it. | Jan 24 05:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's mostly a choice based on where your tax rates are now, how well you think the market will perform, and what you think tax rates will be in the future. | Jan 24 05:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I'd say lower than average market returns and higher taxes in the future. | Jan 24 05:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's going to come a time where what's going on in the real economy can no longer be covered up by bailouts and a central bank funding zombie corporations. | Jan 24 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It took the Nikkei 225 30 years just to get back to where it was in 1990, but if you factor in inflation, it's about level with where it was then. | Jan 24 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In other words, no growth at all. | Jan 24 05:44 |
| schestowitz__ | well, I withdraw an old pension of mine now | Jan 24 05:56 |
| schestowitz__ | they might go under in the future | Jan 24 05:56 |
| schestowitz__ | there's a massive tax on early withdrawal | Jan 24 05:56 |
| schestowitz__ | but better that than none | Jan 24 05:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Yes, whatever income tax bracket that plus your normal salary puts you in plus a 10% flat tax on the early retirement withdrawal on top of that part. | Jan 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you are not at least 59.5 years old. | Jan 24 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Taking a very large dispersal mostly hits you if it sends that part of your income into a higher bracket. | Jan 24 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you can take out some of it this year and some next year to avoid a higher bracket in each tax year, then at least you'll just pay your normal tax rate on the money plus the 10% penalty, but it will still be bad. | Jan 24 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: There's exceptions. | Jan 24 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you can show the IRS you took the money out to pay a huge medical bill, it just gets taxed at the income rate it put you in, and then you might be able to deduct some of the medical bill too if you're itemizing instead of taking the standard deduction. | Jan 24 06:02 |
| techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146807 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest | Jan 24 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jan 24 06:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Better to file bankruptcy if it's so bad it'll drain your retirement account though. Usually, your retirement plans are off limits to the bankruptcy court even if they'd be above your exemptions if they were something else. | Jan 24 06:04 |
| techrights-bot | #Games Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146808 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 06:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | US bankruptcy law is really geared towards helping people who had a disaster and no way to pay it back. It's not designed to help the Maricels out there who make six figures a year and should have been more fiscally conservative. | Jan 24 06:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She could file a different kind of bankruptcy that restructures it into payments with less interest, but ultimately it gets paid back. | Jan 24 06:08 |
| techrights-bot | #Security and #ProprietarySoftware • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146810 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Jan 24 06:08 | |
| schestowitz__ | duct tape on a bad system | Jan 24 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | to give it more shelf life | Jan 24 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | before it collapses | Jan 24 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55778334 | Jan 24 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Alexei Navalny: 'More than 3,000 detained' in protests across Russia - BBC News | Jan 24 06:09 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▄▃▅▅▄▃▃▄▅▄▅▄▇▅▄▄▃▄▄▅▄▄▄▄▅▅▅▅▃▄▅▅ avg(k/sec) 20.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▄▄▅█▄▅▄▄▁▂▅▅▂▃▆▄▄▅▃▃▄▇▅▄▅▆▅▅▅▄▄▄▅▄▃▄▅ avg(k/sec) 19.25▕ swarm size (avg): 209.63 ⟲ | Jan 24 06:10 |
| techrights-bot | New in #Linux 5.12 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146811 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Kernel | Jan 24 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New in Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 06:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | Russia is now a poor country | Jan 24 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | same for the US | Jan 24 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | they're looted countries | Jan 24 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a scam, a pyramid | Jan 24 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | and more people are catching on/up | Jan 24 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | *Russia is not | Jan 24 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the wealth is also in national assets, untapped | Jan 24 06:14 |
| techrights-bot | Patent Docs just now: "IPO Webinar on Diversity & Inclusion in the IP Legal Profession" The #blackmail and #extortion artists hijack "Diversity & Inclusion" in the name of increasing the parasitic activity while self-identifying as "Ethical" | Jan 24 06:17 |
| techrights-bot | #swpats and #ibm backed lobby IPO is also promoting and celebrating ILLEGAL #epo practices, which go against the #law but help enrich the #patent profiteers https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/ipo-webinar-on-videoconferencing-at-the-epo.html | Jan 24 06:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Videoconferencing at the EPO | Jan 24 06:18 | |
| techrights-bot | 7 Linux Distros to Look Forward in 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146809 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Linux Distros to Look Forward in 2021 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 06:21 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146812 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 06:27 | |
| techrights-bot | Links 24/1/2021: #Nouveau XOrg Driver Release and GhostBSD 21.01.20 • sʇɥƃıɹɥɔǝʇ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/nouveau-x-org-driver/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Jan 24 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/1/2021: Nouveau X.Org Driver Release and GhostBSD 21.01.20 | Techrights | Jan 24 06:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Well, workers are having such awful conditions now that 2,000 Instacart workers voted to unionize and Instacart fired them for it, illegally. | Jan 24 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Normally, the National Labor Relations Board could sort this out and would rule against Instacart and force them to hire those people back or assess some sort of damages on their behalf, but Trump didn't want it to function so he didn't appoint enough board members for it to legally decide cases. | Jan 24 07:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Biden needs to immediately get people confirmed to the NLRB and the Federal Elections Commission so that they can get a quorum and function again. | Jan 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FEC can start looking into Trump's PACs and his campaign. Better late than never. | Jan 24 07:02 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▃▄▅▅▅▆▃▅▃▆▄▆▅▅▅▇▅▅▆▇▆▅▆▅▅▄▅▅▅▅▅▅▅ avg(k/sec) 26.61 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▅██▅▆▇▄▅▃▃▃▁▅▄▅▄▅▄▅▃▂▅▄▄▂▂▄▄▅▆▇▅▅▃ avg(k/sec) 21.18▕ swarm size (avg): 222.47 ⟲ | Jan 24 07:10 |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) | Jan 24 07:26 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Gig workers get fucked six ways to Sunday. The worst part of it is if you're a regular employee and get a W-2 for your tax form, your employer must pay half your Social Security and Medicare taxes. | Jan 24 07:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But if you're a 1099 "contractor", you are responsible for the full amount. | Jan 24 07:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you are an employee, you probably at least get offered health insurance, and your employer probably pays at least 60-66% of it. | Jan 24 07:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're a 1099 worker, you have to find a private plan or sign up for obamacare or medicaid or something. | Jan 24 07:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of advantages, like if they're a contractor and get hurt, you don't have to cover it or pay workman's comp. So all of these companies just say they're a tech company and they're not responsible for anything. They screw you, they screw the government. They make billions with an app. | Jan 24 07:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Little Caesar's (a pizza chain) decided to save money by not having delivery drivers anymore. If you get a pizza, they just have Doordash pick it up for you. | Jan 24 07:32 |
| *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) | Jan 24 07:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | hmm.. | Jan 24 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | don't see why people still order like that | Jan 24 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | there are risks associated | Jan 24 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | not just costs and loss of freshness | Jan 24 07:57 |
| schestowitz__ | but the dining sector is trying to get creative to survive | Jan 24 07:57 |
| techrights-bot | Promotion of the #HEYHI ("AI") loophole for #softwarepatents where these are clearly not legal https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/webinars-on-ip-law-and-strategy-for-ai-in-europe.html | Jan 24 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Webinars on IP Law and Strategy for AI in Europe | Jan 24 07:59 | |
| techrights-bot | #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 23, 2021 • sʇɥƃıɹɥɔǝʇ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/irc-log-230121/ | Jan 24 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | Techrights | Jan 24 08:02 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/politics/david-legates-ryan-maue-trump-officials-climate-change-mazie-hirono/index.html | Jan 24 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Two former Trump officials to be investigated for posting papers denying climate change - CNNPolitics | Jan 24 08:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/business/doordash-uber-eats-delivery/index.html | Jan 24 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DoorDash and UberEats are raising prices on some takeout orders - CNN | Jan 24 08:08 | |
| techrights-bot | #bt #throttling became really bad as they cannot cope with a congested network. " Why should I pay 2020 prices for 1990 internet speeds? The speed test always comes back with 4.5 mb/sec and the diagnostic tool always crashes the bt dsl router." https://community.bt.com/t5/ADSL-Copper-broadband/Broadband-throttling/td-p/2035724 | Jan 24 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | Broadband throttling - BT Community | Jan 24 08:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chicago and some other cities tried limiting how much Doordash and Ubereats could charge restaurants, to try to help restaurants who are not doing well, and so both companies started imposing a "$1 Chicago fee" on orders and charging it to customers. | Jan 24 08:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though, you would guess, being a tech company with not actual costs, which imposes all of the problems onto their drivers, they would be making more money these days even with the caps. | Jan 24 08:09 |
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| techrights-bot | So I'm not alone in suffering from #bt #throttling (insanely slow and they refuse to fix it). "And people ask me why I left the UK 25 years ago. Sigh." https://community.bt.com/t5/ADSL-Copper-broadband/Broadband-throttling/td-p/2035724# | Jan 24 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | Broadband throttling - BT Community | Jan 24 08:11 | |
| techrights-bot | 1 day after #lockdowns started in the #uk it seems like #bt very clearly capped people (and thus failed to deliver on their side of the contract). "Why BT start throttling internet without my acknowledge ?" https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Looks-like-BT-start-throttling-fibre-2-unlimited-package/td-p/2017905 | Jan 24 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | Looks like BT start throttling fibre 2 unlimited p... - BT Community | Jan 24 08:13 | |
| techrights-bot | "I have used 3 different modems and all yield same results. Daily throttling By BT!" We wasted billions on #brexit shambles instead of investing in #internet infra ahead of #covid19 https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/BT-Infinity-2-download-speed-being-throttled-daily-by-BT/td-p/1994878 | Jan 24 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | BT Infinity 2 download speed being throttled daily... - BT Community | Jan 24 08:14 | |
| techrights-bot | "Ofcom would not be interested unless you receive a deadlock letter from BT, to say they cannot provide the service promised." 3 days ago #BT told me they'd send me such a letter. I'm still waiting. https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/BT-Infinity-2-download-speed-being-throttled-daily-by-BT/td-p/1994878 | Jan 24 08:15 |
| techrights-bot | The #bt forums keep lying for BT. Like climate change deniers. I suppose they manipulate their own forums to say they are "no longer" #throttling (and some mention #p2p etc.). But that's a lie. They're capping, shaping, throttling. More so during lockdowns. | Jan 24 08:22 |
| techrights-bot | Exploiting a #pandemic like they exploit their gig 'workers' [sic] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/business/doordash-uber-eats-delivery/index.html | Jan 24 08:24 |
| techrights-bot | Trying to get arrogant ISPs to just admit they shape, cap and throttle connections in a discriminatory fashion (to protect their monopolistic partners) is like trying to get #trump to admit he lost the election | Jan 24 08:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I used to use DSL but no building wired for phone since Chicago. | Jan 24 08:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can see why they were skeptical of you using a landline though. Most people here argue they don't want one even if it is only $4 a month on their DSL bill. | Jan 24 08:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/1/23/22245630/microsoft-xbox-live-gold-price-increase-reversed-f2p | Jan 24 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft backtracks on Xbox Live Gold price hike - The Verge | Jan 24 08:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz, Microsoft got flamed for trying to double the price of Xbox live. It said current subscribers as of the price hike date would stay at the old price. Makes you wonder if they were trying to cause people to panic and sign up and not drop it because they'd get the higher price if they came back. | Jan 24 08:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They must be doing okay. With the pandemic and all the people playing video games and popping antidepressants. | Jan 24 08:56 |
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| techrights-bot | Data Point: #GNU / #Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/share-of-desktops/ http://techrights.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_Market_Share | Jan 24 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Data Point: GNU/Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) | Techrights | Jan 24 11:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU/Linux Market Share - Techrights | Jan 24 11:09 | |
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| techrights-bot | As Andrei #Iancu Removes Himself From the #Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on #Biden ’s Next Nomination http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/iancu-removes-himself/ #uspto | Jan 24 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Andrei Iancu Removes Himself From the Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on Biden’s Next Nomination | Techrights | Jan 24 11:30 | |
| techrights-bot | Many #techrights articles about the #uspto during the #trump years http://techrights.org/wiki/USPTO | Jan 24 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO - Techrights | Jan 24 11:31 | |
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| techrights-bot | #SocialControlMedia is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds • sʇɥƃıɹɥɔǝʇ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/back-to-blogging-makes-sense/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Jan 24 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds | Techrights | Jan 24 11:59 | |
| techrights-bot | Oh, wow. #microsoft has just admitted that in 2019 #github saw a very significant decline in number of new projects and users on the site. Just what I had heard before they confirmed it. #deletegithub | Jan 24 12:02 |
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| techrights-bot | #Microsoft : The Year After We Bought #GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ #DeleteGithub | Jan 24 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights | Jan 24 12:14 | |
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| psydroid | <DaemonFC[m] "schestowitz, Microsoft got flame"> schestowitz said that xbox is also losing money, so I am wondering which part of the company is earning any money | Jan 24 12:50 |
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| schestowitz__ | psydroid: the bailout department | Jan 24 12:51 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/ | Jan 24 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights | Jan 24 12:51 | |
| psydroid | also what you said about Intel being hacked early this morning, that would be big if it came out (maybe it already did) | Jan 24 12:53 |
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| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/XBox_Reality_Log | Jan 24 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | XBox Reality Log - Techrights | Jan 24 12:57 | |
| schestowitz__ | mind you, page out of date | Jan 24 12:58 |
| schestowitz__ | I have not tracked Microsoft much for a decade | Jan 24 12:58 |
| schestowitz__ | but it's expensive being in the console market | Jan 24 12:58 |
| schestowitz__ | to just sell your shite against the Japanese giants you need to spend BILLIONS in marketing and "incentives" | Jan 24 12:58 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise you stand no chance and never get off the ground, nobody develops for the platform | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | so it's a big gamble, same for Azure | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | which failed, obviously | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | layoffs | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | investment on the big, losses also on the big, still | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | Years ago you had MSFT boosters saying Azure would catch up with AWS within years | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | not it's a farce | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | like all those "UPC coming soon" pieces from the past 7-8 years | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab: ^ | Jan 24 12:59 |
| schestowitz__ | [12:53] <psydroid> also what you said about Intel being hacked early this morning, that would be big if it came out (maybe it already did) | Jan 24 13:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/intel-avoids-outsourcing-embrace-investigates-hack-of-results/80417392 | Jan 24 13:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Intel: Intel avoids outsourcing embrace, investigates hack of results, IT News, ET CIO | Jan 24 13:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Financial Times quoting its chief financial officer as saying the microchip maker had been [cracked]" | Jan 24 13:00 |
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| psydroid | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Total_console_sales_by_firm | Jan 24 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of best-selling game consoles - Wikipedia | Jan 24 13:11 | |
| vZS1_2 | The big names don't have real security hackers to protect them. Too busy circlejerking over their "antivirus" software. :D | Jan 24 13:12 |
| psydroid | looking at this it would take decades for Xbox to make any kind of impact on the world of consoles, so I am wondering what was the actual plan behind starting that division | Jan 24 13:12 |
| techrights-bot | In 2020 Onwards ’Open Source’ is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software • sʇɥƃıɹɥɔǝʇ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/oss-a-marketing-ploy/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #openwashing | Jan 24 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In 2020 Onwards ‘Open Source’ is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software | Techrights | Jan 24 13:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: testing DRM on devices | Jan 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | locked-down hardware as product | Jan 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | iophk keeps telling me... | Jan 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz__ | hardware can be sold at high price | Jan 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz__ | the price of windows licence is now negative sometimes | Jan 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz__ | i.e. Microsoft PAYS firms to put Windows on things | Jan 24 13:14 |
| vZS1_2 | A lot of them run unhardened GNU/Linux distributions and many straight up install MalwareOS(Windows). It's no surprised they get hacked. | Jan 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: it is even worse than I thought. Nintendo sold like SIX times as many as the xbox series | Jan 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | mayeb they count the early ones also | Jan 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | brb | Jan 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | trying to do many articles today... | Jan 24 13:16 |
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| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: thanks for mirroring or shadowing our IPFS CIDs | Jan 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | it's almost untenable to have it on except when away or alseep | Jan 24 13:16 |
| vZS1_2 | But the worst vulnerability is staff that are not security conscious. No expert can save you from a bunch of uneducated dolts. | Jan 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | BT becomes more aggressive with the throttling over time | Jan 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: what do you make of Alex Stamos? | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Facebook et al | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | hailed like some champion | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | and now hired for PR stunts by other evil companies | Jan 24 13:17 |
| vZS1_2 | Never heard of him | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | along with Microsofter Kerbs | Jan 24 13:17 |
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| schestowitz__ | *Chris | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | not Brian | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | some of these overhyped fools get massive salaries | Jan 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | even if they do the most unethical things | Jan 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | at companies that steal data | Jan 24 13:18 |
| vZS1_2 | schestowitz__: re: IPFS, yw. I'll mirror what I can. | Jan 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | hailed in the media like some security icons | Jan 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | it's incredible | Jan 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | he blocks me in Twitter just because I mentioned his name | Jan 24 13:18 |
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| vZS1_2 | I don't think you can call putting spyware-oriented telemetry security. It's the opposite of security. | Jan 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I am waiting for BT to send us the "deadlock" letter so I can proceed to Ofcom | Jan 24 13:20 |
| vZS1_2 | But we have an industry where people think log aggregation is a security product. So make of that what you will. | Jan 24 13:20 |
| psydroid | when I set up a networking environment for a friend of mine I set up a gateway with multiple separate networks (wan, lan, dmz) and with firewalls on every computer so they wouldn't even trust each other. Of course Google has the experts to do it more professionally, but you would expect a company of Intel's size to have that kind of knowledge among its staff as well. | Jan 24 13:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Intel has "Dee Aze" | Jan 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "Dee Axe" | Jan 24 13:21 |
| vZS1_2 | psydroid: good packet filtering is always important. | Jan 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz__ | and Sx | Jan 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Security eXperience | Jan 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz__ | it feels like security | Jan 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz__ | you feel the experience | Jan 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz__ | expensive things like solarwind | Jan 24 13:21 |
| Techrights-sec | The letter is something they will likely drag their feet on as much as possible.. | Jan 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz__ | 3 days and counting. They have not yet issued the refund/compensation, either. | Jan 24 13:22 |
| vZS1_2 | If you want to start building a good packet policy, I always say block every thing and then allow only what's necessary. | Jan 24 13:23 |
| vZS1_2 | Then you can put end-to-end encryption over that just to go the extra mile. | Jan 24 13:23 |
| vZS1_2 | There's an old security mantra: you can't enumerate badness. So enumerate goodness instead. | Jan 24 13:24 |
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| vZS1_2 | If you've got a public-facing component, make sure that's isolated from everything else. Relay information to it over a private network. | Jan 24 13:25 |
| psydroid | yes, that's exactly what I tend to do | Jan 24 13:25 |
| vZS1_2 | A lot of the basics are common sense, really. | Jan 24 13:25 |
| vZS1_2 | The hard work is keeping up with vulnerabilities in the toolchain. That's a full-time job. | Jan 24 13:27 |
| psydroid | I bet when he switched back to Windows all of that went overboard and the problems from a decade earlier returned, but I wasn't around anymore to help out at that point | Jan 24 13:27 |
| vZS1_2 | Need to stay up-to-date with the source and bug-trackers. | Jan 24 13:28 |
| vZS1_2 | You can't do that on Windows so it's already a failure. | Jan 24 13:28 |
| psydroid | I still find it hard to believe that you would rip out working solutions due to a lack of skills and choose inferior non-solutions instead | Jan 24 13:28 |
| techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146814 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 13:29 | |
| psydroid | especially in hospitals as was featured on TR several times last year | Jan 24 13:29 |
| vZS1_2 | That's because they are managed by people who buy PR from the marketing companies. | Jan 24 13:30 |
| techrights-bot | How #freesw is helping solve the #plastic #pollution problem • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146813 •●• #plastics | Jan 24 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source is helping solve the plastic pollution problem | Tux Machines | Jan 24 13:30 | |
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| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: nobody gets fired for stockpiling brochures :-) | Jan 24 13:31 |
| Techrights-sec | With the letter you can escalate the issue to Ofcom, and that | Jan 24 13:32 |
| Techrights-sec | is what they wish to delay. | Jan 24 13:32 |
| techrights-bot | #SongRec updated to 0.1.2 in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-27956 #gnu #linux | Jan 24 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux Machines | Jan 24 13:36 | |
| techrights-bot | Contrary to what some publishers try to tell us, #GNU / #Linux is still growing and mostly at the expense of #Windows http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/share-of-desktops/ | Jan 24 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Data Point: GNU/Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) | Techrights | Jan 24 13:38 | |
| vZS1_2 | Also, when you have governments and some influential companies hell-bent on the compromise of every legitimate security project out there, you can't expect the field to be in a good state. | Jan 24 13:38 |
| techrights-bot | #Patent zealots and their front groups already lobby Joe #Biden to put one of them in charge of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office; we’ll soon see if Joe Biden “means business” or simply means monopoly/large corporations (and their law firms/departments) http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/iancu-removes-himself/ | Jan 24 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Andrei Iancu Removes Himself From the Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on Biden’s Next Nomination | Techrights | Jan 24 13:39 | |
| vZS1_2 | In 2020 alone, I've seen at least 2 attempts by government actors to ban real end-to-end encryption outright. | Jan 24 13:40 |
| techrights-bot | The whole #socialcontrolmedia phenomenon has been oversold or promoted using lies; in reality, as a mountain of evidence serves to show, it’s a way to manage society at a macro scale http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/back-to-blogging-makes-sense/ | Jan 24 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds | Techrights | Jan 24 13:40 | |
| vZS1_2 | Under the guise of fake encryption like "special access". | Jan 24 13:41 |
| techrights-bot | #Microsoft has just admitted that in 2019 #GitHub saw a very significant decline in number of new project http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ #deletegithub | Jan 24 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights | Jan 24 13:41 | |
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| vZS1_2 | Misleading the public with the fake encryption provided by apps like WhatsApp. | Jan 24 13:42 |
| techrights-bot | More people are nowadays seeing or witnessing #OpenSource for what it truly is; the term has become a misleading #marketing term of #proprietarysoftware firms looking to rebrand as “ethical” http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/oss-a-marketing-ploy/ | Jan 24 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In 2020 Onwards ‘Open Source’ is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software | Techrights | Jan 24 13:42 | |
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| vZS1_2 | Like this bullshit | Jan 24 13:43 |
| vZS1_2 | https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/international-statement-end-to-end-encryption-and-public-safety | Jan 24 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International statement: End-to-end encryption and public safety - GOV.UK | Jan 24 13:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | :-) | Jan 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz__ | gov.youOKAY mate? | Jan 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "sure, just put back doors on this "hacker thing"..." | Jan 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz__ | when citizens exercising privacy is a crime | Jan 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz__ | you know you may be governed by criminals | Jan 24 13:44 |
| vZS1_2 | It's always "terrorism" and "child porn". | Jan 24 13:44 |
| vZS1_2 | When they want to ban real end-to-end encryption. | Jan 24 13:44 |
| vZS1_2 | A lot of the public are moronic enough to buy it. | Jan 24 13:45 |
| techrights-bot | #clickbait case: "The facts of Case I ZR 120/19 concern an online TV guide, which used images of four popular television presenters, including Günther Jauch, in a Facebook post on 18 August 2015." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/germanys-federal-court-of-justice-gives.html | Jan 24 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Germany's Federal Court of Justice gives weight to celebrity consent to media image use - The IPKat | Jan 24 13:45 | |
| vZS1_2 | But you can be a Blackwater war criminal and get a presidential pardon. | Jan 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:44] <vZS1_2> It's always "terrorism" and "child porn". | Jan 24 13:46 |
| vZS1_2 | But if you want privacy, you're either a "terrorist" or a "pedophile". | Jan 24 13:46 |
| schestowitz__ | sometimes "Drugs" and other things | Jan 24 13:46 |
| schestowitz__ | we need an ecronym | Jan 24 13:46 |
| schestowitz__ | for all the patterns used | Jan 24 13:46 |
| vZS1_2 | I can't find the US paper trying to ban encryption. I'll link it if I remember. | Jan 24 13:46 |
| schestowitz__ | "money laundering", "revenge porn" | Jan 24 13:46 |
| vZS1_2 | s/US/USA/ | Jan 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz__ | US of nowhere now | Jan 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz__ | they lost allies | Jan 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz__ | Biden is not repairing relations | Jan 24 13:47 |
| vZS1_2 | This is a binary situation. You either have the real thing or its fake. | Jan 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/21/cuba-hip-hop-and-american-imperialism/ | Jan 24 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cuba, Hip Hop and American Imperialism - CounterPunch.org | Jan 24 13:47 | |
| vZS1_2 | The state actors keep trying to lie to the public about the binary nature of the situation. | Jan 24 13:48 |
| vZS1_2 | s/its/it's/ | Jan 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/15/ten-theses-on-trump/ | Jan 24 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ten Theses on Trump - CounterPunch.org | Jan 24 13:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Trump’s desire to destroy the Paris Agreement, Iran Deal, normalized Cuba ties, etc. Not to express any philosophy of international relations, because he doesn’t have one or the mind to create one—but to vent spleen.)" | Jan 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: "nothing to hide" | Jan 24 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | say people who drone you for exposing something you hid | Jan 24 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | *they hid | Jan 24 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, we can all agree privacy is about control | Jan 24 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | or autonomy | Jan 24 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | and there are many other ways to put it | Jan 24 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | taking away privacy means exercising power over people | Jan 24 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | in the old tribes it was the same | Jan 24 13:50 |
| schestowitz__ | and right not it's asymmetric and disproportional | Jan 24 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | we have no privacy | Jan 24 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | except few of us | Jan 24 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | jailed for leaking one doc (Reality Winner et al) | Jan 24 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | but when they steal GIGABYTES of our personal data from our machine nobody gets arrested | Jan 24 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | it's just "keeping us safe" | Jan 24 13:51 |
| vZS1_2 | "National security" | Jan 24 13:51 |
| schestowitz__ | (GCHQ, NSA, BND...) | Jan 24 13:52 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: National Socialists' Job Security | Jan 24 13:52 |
| vZS1_2 | The push against them is there. It's doing well. We just need to keep up the heat. | Jan 24 13:53 |
| schestowitz__ | covid-19 gives people time to study crypto | Jan 24 13:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and to set things up | Jan 24 13:53 |
| schestowitz__ | but no guests allowed | Jan 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | this means more chances to intercept comms | Jan 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | less face-to-face "going dark" | Jan 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | icymi, "going dark" is also you chatting to somewhat at the office | Jan 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | you "go dark"... they don't have a record of the chat | Jan 24 13:54 |
| vZS1_2 | I don't know about you but people stopped paying attention to the lockdowns here. | Jan 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | You COULD be plotting a terror attack !! | Jan 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: we're introverts | Jan 24 13:55 |
| vZS1_2 | They can't keep people penned up inside for over a year. | Jan 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | as long as the gym is shut, we don't have interest in walking around much (stores shut anyway, they'd be fined for not obeying) | Jan 24 13:55 |
| vZS1_2 | Yeah. It's mostly the "non-essential" stores you see shut down. | Jan 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | "156,992 COVID-19 deaths based on Current projection scenario by May 1, 2021" https://covid19.healthdata.org | Jan 24 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-covid19.healthdata.org | COVID-19 | Jan 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | this is new | Jan 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | watch the chart, vZS1_2 | Jan 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | click and see | Jan 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | I like the "vaccine" part | Jan 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | they show it has having miniscule effect | Jan 24 13:56 |
| vZS1_2 | Crap. I forgot to enable my multiplexer. Gimme a sec. | Jan 24 13:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | minuscule | Jan 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz__ | might as well say "mass masking | Jan 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz__ | rather than "mass 'vaccination | Jan 24 13:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | I forgot to close those quotes, but nm | Jan 24 13:58 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▇▅▄▅▅▆▆▅▆▅▄▇▄▅▅▅▆▅▆▆▆▅▅▆▅▅▆▆▅▆ avg(k/sec) 28.38 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▇▄▄▅▇▂▄▅██▄▅▃▃▃▆▄▄▅▆▄▅▄▄▅▄▅▅▃▃▃▅▇ avg(k/sec) 27.41▕ swarm size (avg): 248.50 ⟲ | Jan 24 14:10 |
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| MinceR | lol @ security experience | Jan 24 14:16 |
| schestowitz__ | glad you liked that | Jan 24 14:16 |
| schestowitz__ | but you spelled it wrong | Jan 24 14:16 |
| schestowitz__ | it's eXperience | Jan 24 14:16 |
| schestowitz__ | with an X | Jan 24 14:16 |
| schestowitz__ | it's more cool that way | Jan 24 14:16 |
| schestowitz__ | now get your mac and you yubikey | Jan 24 14:17 |
| schestowitz__ | we're going places | Jan 24 14:17 |
| schestowitz__ | eXperiences with $700 piece of kludge | Jan 24 14:17 |
| schestowitz__ | that proves you're serious about security because you have a receipt | Jan 24 14:17 |
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| vZS1_2 | Finally sent some doc patches I was supposed to send at the start of the week. lol | Jan 24 14:18 |
| vZS1_2 | SX | Jan 24 14:20 |
| vZS1_2 | Do you need to wear protection for that as well? | Jan 24 14:20 |
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| psydroid | isn't that more of a topic for #sexrights? | Jan 24 14:33 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: latex only | Jan 24 14:36 |
| schestowitz__ | or plain text | Jan 24 14:36 |
| schestowitz__ | utf-8 | Jan 24 14:36 |
| vZS1_2 | psydroid: Security eXperience. May possibly belong in #sexrights. | Jan 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Assange was prosecuted or at least persecuted for not using protection | Jan 24 14:39 |
| vZS1_2 | What's the status of the Assange case? | Jan 24 14:40 |
| vZS1_2 | Last I read that there was an appeal. | Jan 24 14:41 |
| schestowitz__ | appeal filed | Jan 24 14:41 |
| schestowitz__ | by US | Jan 24 14:41 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, I read in 3 places | Jan 24 14:41 |
| karolyi[m] | <schestowitz__ ""156,992 COVID-19 deaths based o"> "proudly brought to you by the CDC and WHO, who never been wrong about anything" | Jan 24 14:41 |
| karolyi[m] | at this point all I look at is the euromomo site with the all-cause mortality data | Jan 24 14:42 |
| vZS1_2 | It's Sleepy Joe's administration now. Let's see how he deals with the "high-tech terrorist" (his own words). | Jan 24 14:43 |
| karolyi[m] | https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ | Jan 24 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euromomo.eu | Graphs and maps — EUROMOMO | Jan 24 14:44 | |
| techrights-bot | When #ProprietarySoftware Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/dictating-proprietary-software/ #freesw | Jan 24 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Proprietary Software Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities | Techrights | Jan 24 14:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: maybe McConnel's | Jan 24 14:48 |
| schestowitz__ | Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8WRFw5sHQ | Jan 24 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assange a high-tech terrorist: Biden - YouTube | Jan 24 14:48 | |
| karolyi[m] | about sleepy joe: https://twitter.com/BAMAPERRY/status/1352291835566313474 | Jan 24 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BAMAPERRY: Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, "salute the mari… https://t.co/t4alv49E4h | Jan 24 14:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BAMAPERRY: Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, "salute the mari… https://t.co/t4alv49E4h | Jan 24 14:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uId1l2AwVH8 | Jan 24 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet The Press McConnell- Assange is a 'high-tech terrorist' - YouTube | Jan 24 14:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | karolyi[m]: tweets as sources :-) | Jan 24 14:49 |
| karolyi[m] | I mean, it's a video, see for yourself, probably you haven't even clicked just stated something | Jan 24 14:49 |
| karolyi[m] | up to you | Jan 24 14:50 |
| schestowitz__ | I want to be sure if's authentic, that's all | Jan 24 14:50 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw lots of fakes out there | Jan 24 14:50 |
| schestowitz__ | he doesn't appear to have a piece | Jan 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe he does | Jan 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz__ | and the video is very coarse | Jan 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz__ | so that could be added post-hoc | Jan 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz__ | twitter is not reliable, that's just my point | Jan 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of Trump lies there, now removed years late | Jan 24 14:51 |
| karolyi[m] | is a youtube more reliable or you will only believe it if you've been there personally? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BU0YK0cO4 | Jan 24 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Salute The Marines - Biden's Earpiece Fail - YouTube | Jan 24 14:52 | |
| vZS1_2 | So they both called him a "high-tech terrorist" | Jan 24 14:52 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2019/07/21/twitter-is-unverified-hearsay/ | Jan 24 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tweets Are Not Journalism But Succinct Unverified Hearsay; Time to Treat Them Accordingly | Techrights | Jan 24 14:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/23/good-looking-marines-video-misrepresents-biden-inauguration/ | Jan 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz__ | I will need to start ignoring some people | Jan 24 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | ‘Good-looking Marines’: Video misrepresents Biden at inauguration - The Washington Post | Jan 24 14:53 | |
| schestowitz__ | to reduce s/n ratio | Jan 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: not sure | Jan 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz__ | seems like he was asked about Assange | Jan 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz__ | the phrase comes up | Jan 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and he says it's more like that than with Ellsberg | Jan 24 14:54 |
| vZS1_2 | It did sound to me like he said "Salute the marines". | Jan 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz__ | McConnell seems to have been the originakl | Jan 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: maybe manipulated | Jan 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz__ | social control media is NOT reliable | Jan 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz__ | as I said earlier | Jan 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ | Jan 24 14:54 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://www.ibtimes.sg/was-biden-receiving-instructions-through-hidden-earpiece-inauguration-55086 | Jan 24 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.sg | Was Biden Receiving Instructions Through Hidden Earpiece at Inauguration? | Jan 24 14:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | The C-Span footage that is being cited as evidence of Biden's secret earpiece does not actually prove the social media users' claim. There is no indication from the clip that Biden was wearing a hidden headset and taking orders through it and it is not clear what exactly he said, either. | Jan 24 14:55 |
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| schestowitz__ | Several Twitter users pointed out that they heard Biden say, "Good looking Marines." | Jan 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's a more reasonable explanation tha(n) 'Biden had a secret earpiece yesterday, only once accidentally repeated his Deep State instructions, and a random guy noticed it,'" Washington Post reporter Dave Weigel, who often debunks manipulated media on his Twitter feed, wrote. | Jan 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | It';s another useless waste-of-time debate | Jan 24 14:55 |
| vZS1_2 | "I would argue that's it's closer to being a high-tech terrorist..." | Jan 24 14:55 |
| vZS1_2 | He did say that | Jan 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Jan 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz__ | I posted that as OGG in TR | Jan 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz__ | last year | Jan 24 14:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | among other Biden videos | Jan 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz__ | where he's with Bush and McCain | Jan 24 14:56 |
| vZS1_2 | Either way, he is an enemy of the freedom of press | Jan 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/articles-about-president-joe-biden/ | Jan 24 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recent Techrights Articles About President Joe Biden | Techrights | Jan 24 14:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | Internet is full of garbage | Jan 24 14:57 |
| vZS1_2 | Assange was persecuted under his watch. Biden is an espionage insider. Has deep ties to the NSA, CIA, etc. | Jan 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz__ | twitter I've ruled out as a source ages ago | Jan 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz__ | unless the poster is some official channel | Jan 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz__ | like media company that still sort of tries to at least affirm authnticity | Jan 24 14:58 |
| schestowitz__ | never mind if they spin things | Jan 24 14:58 |
| vZS1_2 | I see way too many people defending Biden like it's some sort of thing to be thankful for. "Not Trump" is not a standard to pursue. | Jan 24 14:58 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ | Jan 24 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ ) | Jan 24 14:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | "On the contrary, the social media claims resemble past conspiracy theories that targeted Biden during his campaign. Those claims alleged, without evidence, that Biden wore a wire or used a medical device to get answers from aides during the presidential debates." | Jan 24 14:59 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: both are douchebags | Jan 24 14:59 |
| schestowitz__ | but we need to get reliable facts and footage or transcripts | Jan 24 14:59 |
| schestowitz__ | like Trump's "big league" | Jan 24 14:59 |
| schestowitz__ | some people said he had stated "bigly" | Jan 24 15:00 |
| vZS1_2 | Who cares if he wore a wire. The man oversaw the expansion of ICE and PRISM. | Jan 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz__ | later I realised that the anti-Trump camp was also distorting | Jan 24 15:00 |
| vZS1_2 | They're dragging on a debate about something that doesn't matter. | Jan 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz__ | PRISM was an extension of Bush programs | Jan 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Biden and Bush are close | Jan 24 15:00 |
| vZS1_2 | An extendion Obama and Biden happily went along with | Jan 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Biden gave Bush a MEDAL | Jan 24 15:00 |
| vZS1_2 | s/extendion/extension/ | Jan 24 15:00 |
| vZS1_2 | The Obama-Biden administration used the Espionage Act to ruin lives. | Jan 24 15:01 |
| vZS1_2 | Trump pardoned Blackwater war criminals. What are they letting their country to turn into.... | Jan 24 15:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Video: http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/the-pardon-train/ | Jan 24 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | But at Least He’s Not Donald Trump or George Bush… | Techrights | Jan 24 15:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | More photos http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/biden-riaa-and-mpaa/ | Jan 24 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just for the Record(ing Industry): Joe Biden is an Enemy of Freedom and of Software Freedom | Techrights | Jan 24 15:03 | |
| schestowitz__ | McCain-Biden (video): http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/ | Jan 24 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shifted… to the Right | Techrights | Jan 24 15:03 | |
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| techrights-bot | De-Coding Indian Intellectual Property [sic] #Law https://spicyip.com/2021/01/delhi-high-court-interprets-export-as-use-in-india-grants-interim-injunction-to-h-lundbeck-a-s.html does that serve #india or foreign robber barons? | Jan 24 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Delhi High Court Interprets ‘Export’ as ‘Use’ in India; Grants Interim Injunction to Lundbeck | SpicyIP | Jan 24 15:06 | |
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| techrights-bot | US Empire has #USTR blackmail artists shaming and bullying nations that don't obey the Empire's oligarchs https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2021/january/ustr-releases-2020-review-notorious-markets-counterfeiting-and-piracy lots on USTR in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate | Jan 24 15:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ustr.gov | USTR Releases 2020 Review of Notorious Markets for Counterfeiting and Piracy | United States Trade Representative | Jan 24 15:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - Techrights | Jan 24 15:09 | |
| techrights-bot | This is a lie. #USTR is not US government but a front of corporations. https://www.thefashionlaw.com/amazon-platforms-have-landed-on-u-s-governments-notorious-markets-list-for-a-second-year/ | Jan 24 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/amazon-platforms-have-landed-on-u-s-governments-notorious-markets-list-for-a-second-year/ ) | Jan 24 15:10 | |
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| techrights-bot | [Older] The EU’s attempt to regulate Big Tech: What it brings and what is missing https://edri.org/our-work/eu-attempt-to-regulate-big-tech/ #gdpr #eu | Jan 24 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | The EU’s attempt to regulate Big Tech: What it brings and what is missing - European Digital Rights (EDRi) | Jan 24 15:11 | |
| vZS1_2 | I expect things to get worse in terms on antitrust in the USA. Biden is glad to stuff big tech people into critical roles. | Jan 24 15:13 |
| vZS1_2 | Probably part of his campaign donation deal. | Jan 24 15:13 |
| karolyi[m] | I will agree with the "fact checkers" that the burden of proof is on the people who claim he said it, but they also provided quite a weak "debunking" | Jan 24 15:13 |
| karolyi[m] | it's just what they do, muddle up the waters | Jan 24 15:14 |
| karolyi[m] | divide et impera | Jan 24 15:14 |
| karolyi[m] | is the name of the game | Jan 24 15:14 |
| vZS1_2 | Trump thought social control media would always be on his side. He was a fool. | Jan 24 15:14 |
| vZS1_2 | They kicked him off once they knew he was no longer going to be POTUS. | Jan 24 15:15 |
| karolyi[m] | play stupid games, win stupid prizes | Jan 24 15:16 |
| techrights-bot | "In implementing any decisions, the DSC with jurisdiction must communicate certain information to the EDBS/Commission who may communicate their views when they are of the opinion that any action plan proposed is insufficient." http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2020/12/overview-of-digital-services-act.html | Jan 24 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eulawanalysis.blogspot.com | EU Law Analysis: Overview of Digital Services Act | Jan 24 15:16 | |
| techrights-bot | #Spain cannot occupy #Chile with troops anymore. So send the lawyers and lobbyists. https://iptango.blogspot.com/2021/01/chile-and-madrid-protocol-are-we-close.html | Jan 24 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iptango.blogspot.com | Chile and the Madrid Protocol: are we close yet? - IPTango | Jan 24 15:17 | |
| techrights-bot | #clownComputing #FTC #YouAreTheProduct https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225171/ftc-facial-recognition-ever-settled-paravision-privacy-photos | Jan 24 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | FTC settles with photo storage app that pivoted to facial recognition - The Verge | Jan 24 15:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: they profited off him | Jan 24 15:19 |
| schestowitz__ | and the provocation he caused | Jan 24 15:19 |
| schestowitz__ | flaming for responses | Jan 24 15:19 |
| schestowitz__ | pushing ads | Jan 24 15:19 |
| schestowitz__ | they threw him under the bus the moment he was no longer the "highest bidder" | Jan 24 15:20 |
| schestowitz__ | now they can rewrite history as "helping Biden" | Jan 24 15:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | With all sorts of misinformation still floating in there | Jan 24 15:20 |
| techrights-bot | #Fedora doesn’t care about #softwarefreedom and its steward (or parent company) is sometimes imposing #proprietarysoftware on staff; they’ve quit caring http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/dictating-proprietary-software/ #ibm #redhat | Jan 24 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Proprietary Software Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities | Techrights | Jan 24 15:21 | |
| karolyi[m] | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665532947973013514/779091408811851776/1605820164765.png | Jan 24 15:21 |
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| schestowitz__ | Trump memes from Discord | Jan 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz__ | classy | Jan 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz__ | facts are still facts | Jan 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz__ | and social control media is a premier source of gossip | Jan 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz__ | need to see the cspan original | Jan 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz__ | and then figure out from that the context and what was said | Jan 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Senile/demented Trump has long used projection tactics | Jan 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz__ | like the "Sleepy" thing (which is partly true) | Jan 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz__ | (about both) | Jan 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz__ | "Crooked Hillary" | Jan 24 15:24 |
| karolyi[m] | I have tried to hear what he said from both sides of the aisle, one can't really make it out, can be understood both ways | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | "Nasty Woman" | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | describing himself basically | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | for illusion of parity | Jan 24 15:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | karolyi[m]: the video could have audio edited | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | and then redistributed | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | then going 'viral' for the edit | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | need to seek the original | Jan 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz__ | not "tweet" | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | "original" tweet | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | twitter is a rabbit's hole | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | you get disinformation about disinformation | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and then lose track of actual info | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | youtube also has "deep fakes" | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | but... | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe it's not a fake | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and then you wonder about context | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | my initial reaction was, he doesn't need an earpiece | Jan 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and I could see none | Jan 24 15:25 |
| karolyi[m] | even the "fact checkers" don't argue for the video being edited, they also claimed he muttered something, but each can perceive it according to one's views and biases | Jan 24 15:26 |
| techrights-bot | "So I changed to Debian and used it for a time until change to other distros, but I was amazed how fast it was, of course I couldn’t use all of the same programs I used to work with but I did learn new ones." https://cbcalves.github.io/post/konsole-contribute/ | Jan 24 15:27 |
| karolyi[m] | confirmation bias is clearly a thing here | Jan 24 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cbcalves.github.io | Carlos Alves | Contributing to Konsole | Jan 24 15:27 | |
| karolyi[m] | like I said, divide and conquer is the name of the game | Jan 24 15:27 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz__: Hillary IS awful | Jan 24 15:28 |
| techrights-bot | Overkill for something that ought not be more simple than a text file with symbols and indentation https://opensource.com/article/21/1/break-down-tasks | Jan 24 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 stress-free steps to tackling your task list | Opensource.com | Jan 24 15:29 | |
| CrystalMath | let's not delude ourselves that there's any other reason why Trump won in 2016 | Jan 24 15:29 |
| CrystalMath | Hillary IS awful and will always continue to be | Jan 24 15:29 |
| CrystalMath | i look forward to the day she dies | Jan 24 15:29 |
| vZS1_2 | The Clintons have no qualms about doing things like bombing medical infrastructure in developing countries. Look up Operation Infinite Reach. | Jan 24 15:29 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, back on topic | Jan 24 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | and now "tweets"... | Jan 24 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | so we have this new post about fedora | Jan 24 15:30 |
| habaner0 | what are the alternatives to letsencrypt ? | Jan 24 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they defend using adobe | Jan 24 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | habaner0: noencrypt ;-) | Jan 24 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | or RealEncrypt | Jan 24 15:30 |
| schestowitz__ | without a middleman :-) | Jan 24 15:30 |
| karolyi[m] | self signed certs with a CA you create and install into your clients... | Jan 24 15:31 |
| schestowitz__ | I wouldn't trust GitHub hosted MicrosoftLFoundation with certs | Jan 24 15:31 |
| habaner0 | ty | Jan 24 15:31 |
| vZS1_2 | Libressl is good. | Jan 24 15:31 |
| habaner0 | are there any downfalls to using lets encrypt | Jan 24 15:31 |
| schestowitz__ | LE is just LF | Jan 24 15:31 |
| schestowitz__ | in new clothing | Jan 24 15:31 |
| schestowitz__ | look up the IRS filings for LE | Jan 24 15:31 |
| schestowitz__ | same people | Jan 24 15:32 |
| karolyi[m] | what's a LF? | Jan 24 15:32 |
| vZS1_2 | Linux Foundation (LF) | Jan 24 15:32 |
| karolyi[m] | aha | Jan 24 15:32 |
| schestowitz__ | Let's Foundatio | Jan 24 15:32 |
| vZS1_2 | schestowitz__: You could say the bombing of a parmaceutical building deprived people in need of technology. | Jan 24 15:32 |
| karolyi[m] | well I use letsencrypt to provide lots ssl certs for sites I serve... I don't know any better now | Jan 24 15:32 |
| schestowitz__ | The F does not have to stand for Foundation | Jan 24 15:32 |
| vZS1_2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_pharmaceutical_factory | Jan 24 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory - Wikipedia | Jan 24 15:33 | |
| vZS1_2 | I think that's kind of on-topic | Jan 24 15:33 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ | Jan 24 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundation’s Let’s Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights | Jan 24 15:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ | Jan 24 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit It’s Disguised as ‘Free’ Privacy | Techrights | Jan 24 15:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | they already had major "incidents" | Jan 24 15:33 |
| schestowitz__ | millions of "bad certs" | Jan 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and no explanation as to why that happened | Jan 24 15:34 |
| vZS1_2 | People shouldn't forget these things (bombing of Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory) by USA. | Jan 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe they made a Real(TM) COvid(R) Vaccine(C) | Jan 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | like Libya wanted to move away from USD | Jan 24 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Saddam had to go | Jan 24 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Saddan was ruler of Saudi Arabia | Jan 24 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | and sent over half a dozen AQ terrorists | Jan 24 15:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Kim is a good lad though | Jan 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "I fell in love with him" | Jan 24 15:36 |
| vZS1_2 | Trump loves missiles too | Jan 24 15:37 |
| vZS1_2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani | Jan 24 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Assassination of Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia | Jan 24 15:37 | |
| techrights-bot | #Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle - Phoronix ⇨ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Hinge-Driver-Linux-5.12 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | Jan 24 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle - Phoronix | Jan 24 15:38 | |
| vZS1_2 | And people wonder why the world hates the USA | Jan 24 15:39 |
| karolyi[m] | well if the NSA has the LE root CA compromised, that still doesn't mean they are able to decrypt the TLS connection encrypted with their certificates, it just means that they are able to falsify certificates with it | Jan 24 15:39 |
| karolyi[m] | which is bad of course, provided they can hijack domains | Jan 24 15:39 |
| vZS1_2 | LE reinforces the CA monopoly on trust. Browsers reinforce that monopoly. | Jan 24 15:40 |
| techrights-bot | US Defense Intelligence Agency admits buying location data off brokers https://in.news.yahoo.com/us-defence-intelligence-agency-admits-142956197.html | Jan 24 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-in.news.yahoo.com | US Defense Intelligence Agency admits buying location data off brokers | Jan 24 15:40 | |
| habaner0 | snowden already revealed that they can unencrypt at will | Jan 24 15:40 |
| karolyi[m] | but quite honestly, no one can tell at this point if the NSA or other "security agencies" have an intermediate cert already | Jan 24 15:40 |
| karolyi[m] | habaner0: do you have a source for that? | Jan 24 15:41 |
| vZS1_2 | If there is a source, they should go claim their Turing Award. | Jan 24 15:41 |
| techrights-bot | The Kate Text Editor - January 2021 https://kate-editor.org/post/2021/2021-01-24-kate-january-2021/ #kde #gnu #linux #freesw | Jan 24 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kate-editor.org | The Kate Text Editor - January 2021 - Kate | Get an Edge in Editing | Jan 24 15:41 | |
| habaner0 | I believe in his book, dont quote me on it though, I may be wrong | Jan 24 15:41 |
| karolyi[m] | I mean there are ciphers that are prone to quantum attacks, but normally this is why the SSL/TLS suite can use various ciphers, so you can phase out the weak ones over time | Jan 24 15:42 |
| karolyi[m] | or might be some other method which I don't know of, but am interested in learning about it | Jan 24 15:43 |
| vZS1_2 | Write a paper and publish it. The security community would love to peer-review it. | Jan 24 15:43 |
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| karolyi[m] | ? | Jan 24 15:45 |
| vZS1_2 | http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ | Jan 24 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit It’s Disguised as ‘Free’ Privacy | Techrights | Jan 24 15:45 | |
| vZS1_2 | The CA monopoly is antithetical to libre software. | Jan 24 15:47 |
| karolyi[m] | I will agree with the monopoly aspect | Jan 24 15:48 |
| karolyi[m] | and also that they're hosted on proprietary sites | Jan 24 15:48 |
| karolyi[m] | but then again, how could you verify that their published code on their own site (hosted somewhere on an opensource platform) is the same they use on their backends? | Jan 24 15:49 |
| karolyi[m] | as long as people wouldn't be able to deploy the entire infrastructure for themselves, I guess no one can make sure they're safe | Jan 24 15:50 |
| karolyi[m] | and even then, who has the control over the root CA | Jan 24 15:50 |
| vZS1_2 | Real security means you tier how much you trust encryption keys. | Jan 24 15:50 |
| vZS1_2 | If you get it in person, you can say it's safe to use. For example, get a certificiate by going to your bank. | Jan 24 15:51 |
| vZS1_2 | If you want to just read a blog post, you can just trust any old TLS cert. | Jan 24 15:51 |
| vZS1_2 | This is real security and not theatre. | Jan 24 15:51 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:50] <karolyi[m]> and even then, who has the control over the root CA | Jan 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe the I between the C and A | Jan 24 15:52 |
| karolyi[m] | lol | Jan 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I cited the example from Switzerland | Jan 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz__ | where the CIA literally owned them, secretly | Jan 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz__ | and that was a recent story | Jan 24 15:52 |
| vZS1_2 | Current TLS infrastructure is pure theatre | Jan 24 15:53 |
| schestowitz__ | outsourcing trust | Jan 24 15:53 |
| schestowitz__ | who to? | Jan 24 15:53 |
| schestowitz__ | exactly! | Jan 24 15:53 |
| vZS1_2 | Bingo | Jan 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz__ | starttls bad | Jan 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz__ | because "China" | Jan 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz__ | LE/GitHub good | Jan 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz__ | cause Microsoft/Zemlin | Jan 24 15:54 |
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| schestowitz__ | "orange man" helped people forget about NSA leaks | Jan 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz__ | for 5 years | Jan 24 15:54 |
| vZS1_2 | And the browser providers dictation which CAs you can trust. i.e., the war on self-signed keys. | Jan 24 15:56 |
| vZS1_2 | s/dictation/dictate/ | Jan 24 15:56 |
| vZS1_2 | They bury the "accept self-signed cert" button under several menus and scary warning banners | Jan 24 15:56 |
| schestowitz__ | grafam browsers | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | gafam | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | china bad | Jan 24 15:57 |
| vZS1_2 | Even if you got a cert in person, they don't care. It's still "unsafe" | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | not approved by trumpland | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | way to assert control over the Net | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | via browsers | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | and pre-wired whitelisting | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | oh, sorry | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | bad word | Jan 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz__ | slavery does not exist anymore | Jan 24 15:58 |
| schestowitz__ | or digital colonialism | Jan 24 15:58 |
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| schestowitz__ | that's old stuff, like robber barons | Jan 24 15:58 |
| schestowitz__ | they gave away their wealth and ceased to exist | Jan 24 15:58 |
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| vZS1_2 | It would be very easy to properly get a public key. They do fit on dotmatrix in a single page. | Jan 24 16:00 |
| techrights-bot | #WhiskerMenu 2.5.3 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145879#comment-27957 #gnu #linux | Jan 24 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Whisker Menu 2.5 Released | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:01 | |
| vZS1_2 | You could use the camera on your laptop or phone or something to scan it when you're at your bank | Jan 24 16:01 |
| vZS1_2 | But that would mean education the public about real digital security | Jan 24 16:01 |
| vZS1_2 | And we can't have that | Jan 24 16:01 |
| vZS1_2 | s/education/educating/ | Jan 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "get chrome" | Jan 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz__ | 4 colours | Jan 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz__ | rainbows and ponies | Jan 24 16:01 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://asktogrow.com/tech/wirelessly-use-any-device-as-second-display-of-your-pc-with-darkscreen-for-free/ | Jan 24 16:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Secured via End-to-end encryption" | Jan 24 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wirelessly Use Any Device as Second Display of your PC with Darkscreen for FREE – Open Source & Linux News, Business Ideas & Much more at one place - Asktogrow.com | Jan 24 16:03 | |
| vZS1_2 | People visit their grocery stores all the time as well. They could easily print their public keys at the till. | Jan 24 16:04 |
| vZS1_2 | It can be done from any computer with a printer | Jan 24 16:04 |
| vZS1_2 | But instead they are busy printing QR codes that track people to spy on their movements. | Jan 24 16:06 |
| techrights-bot | Very disappointing that #medevel today promotes #surveillance and #ProprietarySoftware for collaboration, overlooking vastly better options https://medevel.com/5-ways-remote-developers-can-collaborate-in-real-time/ | Jan 24 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 5 Ways Remote Developers Can Collaborate In Real Time | Jan 24 16:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: but... | Jan 24 16:06 |
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| schestowitz__ | terrorists | Jan 24 16:06 |
| schestowitz__ | pedophiles | Jan 24 16:07 |
| vZS1_2 | drug smugglers | Jan 24 16:07 |
| schestowitz__ | russia | Jan 24 16:07 |
| vZS1_2 | china | Jan 24 16:07 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▅▅▆▅▅▆▆▆▅▆▅▆▇▅▄▅▆▅▆▅▅▆▅▅▄▅▅▅▅▇ avg(k/sec) 28.00 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▄▅▆▆▆▄▅▆▄▃█▅▄▆▇▆▅▄▄▅▆▆▃▆▃▄▅▆▅▃ avg(k/sec) 26.18▕ swarm size (avg): 265.12 ⟲ | Jan 24 16:10 |
| techrights-bot | Getting Started with #RaspberryPiPico using MicroPython and C http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27958 | Jan 24 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:10 | |
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| karolyi[m] | trump and/or biden! | Jan 24 16:14 |
| techrights-bot | #Intel Has A New Driver For #Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop’s Hinge/Keyboard Angle • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146815 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:15 | |
| techrights-bot | If you try to apply for mentorship at #linuxfoundation you are asked to log in with one of: 1) Microsoft 2) Microsoft 3) Google 4) Facebook Stay classy, #zemlinPAC | Jan 24 16:18 |
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| techrights-bot | On the upside, #linuxfoundation mentorship do not, for a change, have a requirement like "do not be male" | Jan 24 16:21 |
| MinceR | 24 163024 < habaner0> what are the alternatives to letsencrypt ? | Jan 24 16:22 |
| MinceR | onion sites via tor | Jan 24 16:22 |
| MinceR | eepsites via i2p | Jan 24 16:22 |
| MinceR | your public key is your domain name | Jan 24 16:22 |
| karolyi[m] | who about being huwhite? | Jan 24 16:22 |
| karolyi[m] | *how | Jan 24 16:22 |
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| MinceR | i don't know that one | Jan 24 16:22 |
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| MinceR | ah, you were replying to something else | Jan 24 16:23 |
| vZS1_2 | i2p is a good project. I prefer their infrastructure to Tor. | Jan 24 16:23 |
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| karolyi[m] | yeah, I just don't use the reply function so that the irc side is not screwed up | Jan 24 16:23 |
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| techrights-bot | #openSUSE #Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/03 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146816 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2021/03 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:24 | |
| techrights-bot | #GTK4 Toolkit Seeing More Improvements To Its #OpenGL Renderer - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GTK4-More-OpenGL-Improvements •●• #Phoronix #GNOME | Jan 24 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GTK4 Toolkit Seeing More Improvements To Its OpenGL Renderer - Phoronix | Jan 24 16:25 | |
| vZS1_2 | It's a bit of a struggle to me to skim the i2p code, though. Java not my most familiar language. | Jan 24 16:26 |
| techrights-bot | #gcc 11: #libgccjit is no longer 'alpha' https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2021-January/564163.html | Jan 24 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | [PATCH 2/6] gcc 11: libgccjit is no longer 'alpha' | Jan 24 16:27 | |
| vZS1_2 | They (i2p) migrated over from Monotone to Git, not long ago. That should make the project a bit more accessible. | Jan 24 16:27 |
| techrights-bot | #KDE : #Kate and #Konsole • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146818 •●• #GNU #Linux | Jan 24 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Kate and Konsole | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:34 | |
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| MinceR | (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/726093.mp4 | Jan 24 16:35 |
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| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146819 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jan 24 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:36 | |
| techrights-bot | GNU: #GNU #Binutils 2.36, #GCC 11, and #GTK 4.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146817 | Jan 24 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU: GNU Binutils 2.36, GCC 11, and GTK 4.0 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:37 | |
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| schestowitz__ | What does this site run? https://sso.linuxfoundation.org/login/?state=g6Fo2SBqc2pWNFRTbzV0dlktVjhWTFVQS0htdFdsVDVqZlJHcKN0aWTZIFNnaFZDRFJQZmg2NEFlYlB2TWtsQmF4SE1Ta3VsUWtuo2NpZNkgRktmTUcxMk9QN2d1NVowMXB0dDNoTmtmMkJka1BQYzE&client=FKfMG12OP7gu5Z01ptt3hNkf2BdkPPc1&protocol=oauth2&redirect_uri=https:%2F%2Fmentorship.lfx.linuxfoundation.org&scope=openid%20profile%20email&response_type=code&response_mode=query& | Jan 24 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sso.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Foundation | Jan 24 16:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | nonce=Lnl3Q2tzb1FZYWdVTGpRVlVKYlBpT2VWTmRLcnF3ZWdwNnBGc2xSYmt1Tw%3D%3D&code_challenge=OG29R-ed7F-hGR-TvaeXR_LQxfcCeQEtvoHkHOMl4hg&code_challenge_method=S256&auth0Client=eyJuYW1lIjoiYXV0aDAtc3BhLWpzIiwidmVyc2lvbiI6IjEuMTMuMCJ9 | Jan 24 16:42 |
| schestowitz__ | page source provides no clues | Jan 24 16:42 |
| schestowitz__ | "https://linuxfoundation.org | Jan 24 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation - Decentralized innovation, built with trust | Jan 24 16:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | Decentralized innovation. | Jan 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Built on trust. | Jan 24 16:44 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Jan 24 16:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | Decentralised... on Microsoft Github :-) | Jan 24 16:44 |
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| techrights-bot | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 24th, 2021 (1st Anniversary) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146820 •●• #GNU #Linux | Jan 24 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 24th, 2021 (1st Anniversary) | Tux Machines | Jan 24 16:49 | |
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| kingoffrance | well, decentralized as in https://www.abetterinternet.org/careers/ lol that kind of decentralized https://www.abetterinternet.org/about/ | Jan 24 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abetterinternet.org | Careers - Internet Security Research Group | Jan 24 16:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abetterinternet.org | About Internet Security Research Group - Internet Security Research Group | Jan 24 16:52 | |
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| kingoffrance | 100s of nameless faceless corps and the fortune 100..."decentralized" lol | Jan 24 16:53 |
| kingoffrance | (lets encrypt forward you to abetterinternet) | Jan 24 16:53 |
| kingoffrance | even more "decentralization" lol | Jan 24 16:53 |
| kingoffrance | i guess that kind of "decentralize" is slang for "bring all the corps together" | Jan 24 16:55 |
| kingoffrance | appearance of decentralization, to provide a mechanism for more | Jan 24 16:57 |
| kingoffrance | "ISRG is a California public benefit corporation" thats literally what corporation means, one body. centralize | Jan 24 16:59 |
| kingoffrance | thats the literal definition lol | Jan 24 17:00 |
| kingoffrance | conways law at work | Jan 24 17:01 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▅▆▆▄▄▅▃▅▄▅▄▅▇▆▆▆▅▆▅▆▅█▇▅▅▆▇▅▄▅▃ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▄▃▅▆▁▁▃▂▂▅▅▃█▅▅▆▇▅▄█▅▆▇▄▅▄▆▃▄▄▂ avg(k/sec) 19.30▕ swarm size (avg): 272.41 ⟲ | Jan 24 17:10 |
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| MinceR | (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/EIMfqnp.mp4 | Jan 24 17:53 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▅▆▆▄▄▅▃▅▄▅▄▅▇▆▆▆▅▆▅▆▅█▇▅▅▆▇▅▄▅▃ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▄▃▅▆▁▁▃▂▂▅▅▃█▅▅▆▇▅▄█▅▆▇▄▅▄▆▃▄▄▂ avg(k/sec) 19.30▕ swarm size (avg): 267.21 ⟲ | Jan 24 18:10 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726175.png | Jan 24 18:52 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▅▆▆▄▄▅▃▅▄▅▄▅▇▆▆▆▅▆▅▆▅█▇▅▅▆▇▅▄▅▃ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▄▃▅▆▁▁▃▂▂▅▅▃█▅▅▆▇▅▄█▅▆▇▄▅▄▆▃▄▄▂ avg(k/sec) 19.30▕ swarm size (avg): 262.20 ⟲ | Jan 24 19:10 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726207.jpg | Jan 24 19:45 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/725924.png | Jan 24 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I respect that. | Jan 24 20:27 |
| MinceR | i particularly like their names | Jan 24 20:27 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/VYZkwgV.jpeg | Jan 24 21:00 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE80Mdv7eTs | Jan 24 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VvWW - YouTube | Jan 24 21:37 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▅▆▆▄▄▅▃▅▄▅▄▅▇▆▆▆▅▆▅▆▅█▇▅▅▆▇▅▄▅▃ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▄▃▅▆▁▁▃▂▂▅▅▃█▅▅▆▇▅▄█▅▆▇▄▅▄▆▃▄▄▂ avg(k/sec) 19.30▕ swarm size (avg): 248.23 ⟲ | Jan 24 22:10 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▅▆▆▄▄▅▃▅▄▅▄▅▇▆▆▆▅▆▅▆▅█▇▅▅▆▇▅▄▅▃ avg(k/sec) 28.33 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▄▃▅▆▁▁▃▂▂▅▅▃█▅▅▆▇▅▄█▅▆▇▄▅▄▆▃▄▄▂ avg(k/sec) 19.30▕ swarm size (avg): 243.90 ⟲ | Jan 24 23:10 |
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| schestowitz__ | psydroid: did you pass me that IBM email? | Jan 24 23:48 |
| psydroid | schestowitz_, I will try to do it tomorrow afternoon/evening, I was preparing for my exam tomorrow (actually today) | Jan 24 23:51 |
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