IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 25, 2022

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DaemonFC

"I'm going to cheat on you, openly, at the open sores conference. This is a mutual understanding, btw."

DaemonFC

"We mutually understand that this is how it will be now."

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I would have had more respect for the landlord if he at least admitted why the rent was going up instead of saying provable falsehood's like mom's does.

Sep 25 00:01

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Sep 25 00:01

DaemonFC

Like, "The value of the money is going down due to inflation and I am re-indexing the rent due to this. In fact, the inflation is 10% and I've only raised your rent 5.8% because you've been good to us.".

Sep 25 00:02

DaemonFC

That would at least be understandable. Instead he blames property tax, which has been stable for a decade, and water bills which have maybe increased our cost to him by $1 a month.

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: true

schestowitz[TR]

but

DaemonFC

I suppose there's not too many people he rents to that understand what utilities and taxes cost, what inflation is, etc.

schestowitz[TR]

think of it like this

schestowitz[TR]

you are small

schestowitz[TR]

compared to "the syste"

schestowitz[TR]

which is bigger than your country

schestowitz[TR]

so you control over inflation is nothing

schestowitz[TR]

and so you have two option

schestowitz[TR]

make some money

schestowitz[TR]

or make no money

DaemonFC

Pay it or do without.

schestowitz[TR]

inflation will just be there

DaemonFC

Those are the options.

schestowitz[TR]

nothing you can really do about it eexcept vent out anger

frog

with my bill, they argued it was energy costs, which it isn't

DaemonFC

Yeah, nobody is happy about inflation, I'm sure.

schestowitz[TR]

or go live in IL forests

highest_cubist_thrills

nothing you can really do about it eexcept vent out anger <- bullshit

frog

even when, i lowered consumption ~25%

schestowitz[TR]

and be a hunter gatherer in -10 at winter

highest_cubist_thrills

well thats stupid

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I keep the heat off and just let the building heat keep it at 58 degrees in here.

DaemonFC

It's kind of cold, but meh.

highest_cubist_thrills

its as dumb as saying capitalism is immortal

frog

rent consists of separate positions for heating, and they increased the heating costs

frog

it's a total scam and fraud

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: right

schestowitz[TR]

it's a huge task to challenge it

highest_cubist_thrills

and the only alternative is to back to pre-civilisation

schestowitz[TR]

and you need massive numbers

schestowitz[TR]

to change things

DaemonFC

I keep telling Mandy "Wear more clothes. You're the one that will complain if I dial the heat up and we get a $250 electric bill!".

schestowitz[TR]

not even one single oligarch can control inflation

DaemonFC

Then same thing tomorrow night.

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah you need a majority of the workers-- at least

DaemonFC

Like it doesn't even stick, Roy, so I'm done explaining.

Sep 25 00:06

frog

with the energy bill i received, they claim ~150% annual inflation

Sep 25 00:06

schestowitz[TR]

they say 25% inflation expcted here by April

Sep 25 00:06

schestowitz[TR]

you can work around some

DaemonFC

Yeah, the UK is getting it worse than we are in many ways.

DaemonFC

And Liz Trump won't help, so don't wait for it.

schestowitz[TR]

even the price of the cheapest loaf of bread went up by a lot

cubexyz

what is the price of bread in UK?

frog

the "gas reallocation tax" is 2.5cents/kWh, and energy prices at the market are 180Euros/mWh...

DaemonFC

It's sad. The good bread is like $3.28 a loaf right now.

DaemonFC

It fluctuates.

DaemonFC

They make "cheap bread" by filling it with air.

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DaemonFC

They just puff it up so you're paying for air, and then you're hungry again in an hour.

frog

if i am billed with 40cents/kWh, there is no way to explain the +~150% hike with energy prices nor taxes nor inflations, it's just scam and fraud

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frog

if consumption was cut down then by 50% and price doubled, this would be 400% inflation then ?

frog

per year?

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I have a bread machine. Sometimes I just bake my own. Mandy likes it when I bake a fresh loaf. The problem is that it's terrific on day 1. It's okay for stuff days 2,3,4, and only good for toast between days 5-7.

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: I spent a massive amoutn of time thinking about it

DaemonFC

It doesn't keep like store-bought bread does.

DaemonFC

But the end of the week I'm making toast with butter and jam for breakfast to finish up the loaf before it starts growing mold around day 8 or 9.

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MinceR

pre-civilization would be nice

DaemonFC

The bread machine model they made in 1998 is still working fine for me, and I've been using it for 24 years now.

MinceR

it would mean that we'd eventually have civilization

DaemonFC

You buy them off Amazon today and half the reviewers say they're broken in 6-12 months!

highest_cubist_thrills

it would mean that we'd eventually have civilization <-civilisation is overrated, and mostly a euphamism for colonialism

schestowitz[TR]

yeah

highest_cubist_thrills

mostly.

schestowitz[TR]

"modern" appliances are not made to last

MinceR

is it now

schestowitz[TR]

so you can boycott some

highest_cubist_thrills

but it self-identifies as progress

highest_cubist_thrills

which it isnt

highest_cubist_thrills

lots of genocide

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills convinced me to just use the hob (*stove) for water

highest_cubist_thrills

lots of monoculture

schestowitz[TR]

kettles don't last long

MinceR

is it a gas stove?

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

electric

MinceR

inductive?

highest_cubist_thrills

mincer: electric kettles are faster

schestowitz[TR]

pot calls kettle "shitty"

schestowitz[TR]

kettles keep breaking

schestowitz[TR]

even brand names

highest_cubist_thrills

but if you use a pan and the water is shallow

highest_cubist_thrills

its pretty fucking fast

MinceR

electric kettles are also most likely more efficient than any non-inductive electric stove

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: yes, exactly

highest_cubist_thrills

even on the shittiest electric

highest_cubist_thrills

better to move past civilisation than try to go backwards

schestowitz[TR]

you can also boil more water

schestowitz[TR]

5-10 litres

highest_cubist_thrills

i suppose thats useful if the enemy is climbing up the castle walls

Sep 25 00:14

highest_cubist_thrills

5-10 l is way more tea than i can drink

highest_cubist_thrills

hell its even more soup than i can eat

schestowitz[TR]

no, not like that

schestowitz[TR]

boil up 5

schestowitz[TR]

2 litres hot water bottle 1

schestowitz[TR]

1 for another

schestowitz[TR]

1 for tea and coffeee (2 people

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highest_cubist_thrills

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schestowitz[TR]

and bous

schestowitz[TR]

the hob has a times

schestowitz[TR]

*timer

schestowitz[TR]

so you can set up alarts

schestowitz[TR]

*alaerts

schestowitz[TR]

like the whisling old kettles

schestowitz[TR]

*whistling

schestowitz[TR]

except a lot louder

highest_cubist_thrills

/me would love an arduino steam sensor that whistled when steam rose

Sep 25 00:17

highest_cubist_thrills

the thing about timers is they should work with the same amt of water every time

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DaemonFC

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highest_cubist_thrills

whistles and sensors dont care about that, they work when steam happens

schestowitz[TR]

make sure the device is far from the vapour

DaemonFC

"Sergey Kovalev"

DaemonFC

Sounds Russian.

highest_cubist_thrills

i just listen for the sound of boiling water

highest_cubist_thrills

its good to be near the cooker anyway

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highest_cubist_thrills

make sure the device is far from the vapour <- i think you would enclose it in something steam-resistant

DaemonFC

"Officers tried to leave and Kovalev prevented them from leaving by allegedly grabbing an officer’s arm."

DaemonFC

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

highest_cubist_thrills

of course youd have to be very silly to place it directly over the boiling liquid anyway

highest_cubist_thrills

better to have it distances diagonally

DaemonFC

I've never heard of anyone being charged for resisting a police officer who was trying to LEAVE.

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DaemonFC

Well, that's new.

highest_cubist_thrills

and a sensor on a line to keep the device farther would be ideal (and make it easier to position)

highest_cubist_thrills

some pipe cleaners would let you attach it to the hood over the cooker and position it as you liked

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highest_cubist_thrills

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highest_cubist_thrills

i just listen for the sound of boiling water.

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highest_cubist_thrills

but it would be fun

Sep 25 00:21

DaemonFC

Sep 25 00:21

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Sep 25 00:21

schestowitz[TR]

the stereo we used is almost 30 years old

schestowitz[TR]

samsung

DaemonFC

"Haine said half of the jail population in Madison County — over 100 inmates — will be required to be released. Many of the inmates released will be awaiting trial for crimes such as aggravated driving under the influence, aggravated battery and burglary."

DaemonFC

"Haine said many of those expected to be released are repeat offenders and previously failed to appear in court or comply with the conditions of their release."

schestowitz[TR]

it was't even a premium one at its time

Sep 25 00:23

schestowitz[TR]

it was the budget one

Sep 25 00:23

schestowitz[TR]

now we have "branded" kettles that last one year

Sep 25 00:23

schestowitz[TR]

hard NOT to be cynical

schestowitz[TR]

cubexyz: do you still run 1990s PCs?

schestowitz[TR]

did they survive?

highest_cubist_thrills

things are getting so cheap and disposable

highest_cubist_thrills

if you want anything to last youll have to build it yourself

schestowitz[TR]

'cheap'

schestowitz[TR]

like sache of things

schestowitz[TR]

'cheap' shampoo

schestowitz[TR]

for 2 washes

highest_cubist_thrills

they make luxury model kettles

schestowitz[TR]

cars that cost 10000 to repair 10 years down the road

schestowitz[TR]

per incident

highest_cubist_thrills

but being more expensive is no guaratee of reliability

highest_cubist_thrills

sometimes it helps

schestowitz[TR]

if they can find any parts at all

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], The longest lived computer I've had was a 1991 model that was still working until 2018.

highest_cubist_thrills

i can go buy a kettle that costs $300

schestowitz[TR]

many people sell old BMWs here

highest_cubist_thrills

100 times what mine cost.

schestowitz[TR]

and they're sold cheaply second hand

DaemonFC

#2 was a 1986 model that worked until 2003.

highest_cubist_thrills

its not a kettle, but i use it as one.

schestowitz[TR]

nobody wants to buy a "preowned" car for 15k and then pay 5k per year on repairs

highest_cubist_thrills

i might love it

highest_cubist_thrills

but $300 will also feed me for a significant amt of time

DaemonFC

<schestowitz[TR]> nobody wants to buy a "preowned" car for 15k and then pay 5k per year on repairs

highest_cubist_thrills

it would be pretty silly to spend $300 on a kettle unless i had so much money i didnt know what to do with it

schestowitz[TR]

<highest_cubist_thrills> i can go buy a kettle that costs $300

schestowitz[TR]

electric hob

DaemonFC

Most aren't that high unless you buy a really shitty brand.

schestowitz[TR]

and it's useful for other things too

schestowitz[TR]

heck, it can also warm up a kitchen

schestowitz[TR]

doubling as a heater

DaemonFC

A 5 year old BMW costs more to keep on the road than a 20 year old Honda does.

highest_cubist_thrills

doubling as a heater <- sounds incredibly inefficient

schestowitz[TR]

youyr heart sinks when your clunker goes clunk clunk and you know a visit to the garge will wipe your year's savings

highest_cubist_thrills

and it's useful for other things too <- with you on this part

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: not if you cook

DaemonFC

They keep paying me to take toothpaste.

schestowitz[TR]

and make use of the heat resiudue

DaemonFC

Why not?

highest_cubist_thrills

oh sure, fair enough

highest_cubist_thrills

heater went out last winter

DaemonFC

They're really trying to establish this "brand".

highest_cubist_thrills

tried to use the oven (electric) for a bit to warm up

schestowitz[TR]

we're trying to find ways to reuse heat

DaemonFC

All the "brands" of consumable products are getting very aggressive with promotions.

highest_cubist_thrills

bigger heating element than the cooker

highest_cubist_thrills

it didnt help much.

schestowitz[TR]

body, appliance, kiutchenware

schestowitz[TR]

like they do in datacentres

highest_cubist_thrills

but if youre burning the energy anyway for something else, sure

schestowitz[TR]

warming up the whole building using the servers

highest_cubist_thrills

for a bit to warm up <- obviously you dont want to do this too much or for too long

highest_cubist_thrills

because its a hazard

highest_cubist_thrills

some idiot falls asleep and wakes up to sirens

highest_cubist_thrills

but the heat came back on in a couple days, and i never left it unattended

schestowitz[TR]

here, soon... like, next month... heating up a small home can cost 2000 pounds a month

schestowitz[TR]

*200

highest_cubist_thrills

nor at a temp that would... yknow

schestowitz[TR]

that's more than price of food

schestowitz[TR]

in wintertime

highest_cubist_thrills

some rudimentary physics is helpful here

highest_cubist_thrills

otherwise you might be surprised

schestowitz[TR]

forrrrrrr comparison, my site's hosting is like 30 a month

schestowitz[TR]

inc. email and all

Sep 25 00:31

*schestowitz[TR] restarts barrier

Sep 25 00:31

schestowitz[TR]

i read that in german price of energy can go up five-fold??

schestowitz[TR]

*germany

schestowitz[TR]

maybe just for gas

schestowitz[TR]

germany has a history with gasd bills

schestowitz[TR]

you tyoo would blow your brains out if you had to choose b etween paying the gas bills and paying IBM

Sep 25 00:33

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I might cover this later.

Sep 25 00:34

schestowitz[TR]

cool

Sep 25 00:34

DaemonFC

Companies giving me "free" or cheap consumable products as promotions hoping I'll change my spending habits to more expensive products, and why I don't after the promotions end.

Sep 25 00:35

DaemonFC

Will I take a free $6 tube of toothpaste? Sure. Will I buy one later? No.

Sep 25 00:35

schestowitz[TR]

yesterday we looked for the budget toothpaste

Sep 25 00:36

schestowitz[TR]

could not find it

schestowitz[TR]

they had removed it from the inventories

schestowitz[TR]

didn't shrink the tube

schestowitz[TR]

just removed it

schestowitz[TR]

the cheapest now is 40% higher than that

DaemonFC

They're tapped into consumer illiteracy. People have been using "normal" cheap toothpaste for many decades and their heads didn't fly off and explode because they have a chemical they can't pronounce. So people like Vani Hari have targeted certain "chemicals" there's nothing wrong with by name, and then big toothpaste companies create shell corporations to hide their identity and put different chemicals in them and jack up the price.

schestowitz[TR]

price

schestowitz[TR]

"generics"

schestowitz[TR]

colgate is an interesting one

schestowitz[TR]

it has an upselling tactic

schestowitz[TR]

they want to know what's the most you are willing to spend

DaemonFC

"Nateoan was created by a small and passionate team of scientists and herbalists on a mission to give you the very best that science can offer." Most of their tubes don't have fluoride. I wouldn't use them even for free. You need fluoride or the toothpaste is only doing half its job.

schestowitz[TR]

then they create tiers

schestowitz[TR]

some stores will never stock the lower tiers

DaemonFC

Manual removal of plaque is half the job, remineralization of enamel is the other half.

schestowitz[TR]

some shops for 9 to 5 workers will stock only very expensive tiers

schestowitz[TR]

so you are stuck with bad options

DaemonFC

So this is not the best that science can do. It's worse than the science of the 1950s, when fluoride toothpaste hit the shelves.

DaemonFC

"small team" - The company that owns Alacer Corp is Glaxosmithkline, the makers of Tums, Sensodyne and lots of prescription drugs.

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR]

if you can still bfind the budget tube, buy the shelf :-)

schestowitz[TR]

while it lasts

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DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], iBotta pays me rebates to grab the expensive stuff.

DaemonFC

So I have a toothpaste mountain in my pantry in the kitchen on the top shelf.

DaemonFC

Every time I get a free or half-price tube, it goes on the shelf.

Sep 25 00:42

DaemonFC

Probably have a couple of years worth.

Sep 25 00:42

schestowitz[TR]

2 is a lot

schestowitz[TR]

we once bought 50 tubes

schestowitz[TR]

in wilko when it was quarter price

DaemonFC

Yeah, I bought ten years worth once.

schestowitz[TR]

I did that with soap bars

schestowitz[TR]

not a great idea

schestowitz[TR]

they're large

DaemonFC

They were closing it out at Kroger and I bought it for 37 cents per 6 ounce tube.

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I ended up using it all.

schestowitz[TR]

for w while I used them in the wardrobe

schestowitz[TR]

for scent

schestowitz[TR]

but the scent runs out after a lot less than 10 years

DaemonFC

I use hand soap refills in the shower.

DaemonFC

The aloe vera stuff without triclosan, obviously.

schestowitz[TR]

large bottle

schestowitz[TR]

small dispenser

schestowitz[TR]

of glass

DaemonFC

So it doesn't dry out the skin or use lots of nasty antibacterials that screw up your microbiome.

DaemonFC

Good bacteria crowd out bad bacteria on your skin.

schestowitz[TR]

washing liquids too

DaemonFC

Triclosan mainly nukes good bacteria, and then bad bacteria take their place.

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schestowitz[TR]

there are ripoffs that are still hard to work around

schestowitz[TR]

work in progress

DaemonFC

An indiscriminate killer of bacteria all over your body every day is a really bad idea.

DaemonFC

You explain that to people, but they don't get it.

schestowitz[TR]

I still use my grandpa's shaver

schestowitz[TR]

from early 90s

schestowitz[TR]

still works, not perfectly

schestowitz[TR]

costs of running an squarium are low too

schestowitz[TR]

but the potions for the water almost doubled in price

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], About the media not mentioning Gemini at all, that's true. The media is horrible.

schestowitz[TR]

we need to find a way around it

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: let that medddia die away

schestowitz[TR]

hmm... barrier still vooomiting out multiple keystrokes

Sep 25 00:48

DaemonFC

"Today in the Ukraine war, we see even more about the pathetic dark depths of depravity in the human soul....and now we turn to COVID vaccines. COVID vaccines are brought to you by Pumpkin Spice Pepsi!".

Sep 25 00:48

schestowitz[TR]

will reconnect to network

Sep 25 00:48

DaemonFC

"Get one, or be harassed by mjg59_ on Twitter!"

DaemonFC

"Twitter, brought to you by the CIA, Bill Gates, and a pile of JavaShit!"

schestowitz[TR]

done, testing

schestowitz[TR]

keystrokes all go oveer the local LAN

DaemonFC

JavaShit isn't even the end of it anymore.

schestowitz[TR]

hmmm... still doubling /

DaemonFC

If you don't turn it on, "WebComponents" doesn't work.

DaemonFC

This is terrible.

DaemonFC

Mozilla Blog: Today we're announcing that we've given up and sold our souls to Satan because it's easier that way.

DaemonFC

Also, Cancel Everyone and Shut Down the Web!

DaemonFC

Giving up and selling your soul to Satan because it's easier that way is something mjg59_ did more than a decade ago.

schestowitz

i meant local neywork

DaemonFC

Now all he has is being a shyster.

schestowitz

local lan is local local

DaemonFC

Hiring even more shysters.

schestowitz

i found a way toi disable spam in new firefox tabs

schestowitz

it's llike a back doors

schestowitz

the spam is always there

schestowitz

waiting for mozilla to send instructions

schestowitz

over the server

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], Apparently, Apple plans to enable HEIC on the Web in Webkit.

schestowitz

and add spam to your browsing

DaemonFC

Very soon!

schestowitz

it just wakes up when the server tells it to

schestowitz[TR]

mozilla: apple is privacy

schestowitz[TR]

apple is freedom

schestowitz[TR]

lifestle(tm)

schestowitz[TR]

the SF way

DaemonFC

I spoke with Michael Catanzaro and we're asking them not to do that. It will create a huge mess, which is probably why Apple is going for it.

schestowitz[TR]

*lifestyle

schestowitz[TR]

baker is derangeda

schestowitz[TR]

at her age, what's the point stockpiling money?

schestowitz[TR]

if she believes in open web, software freedom etc.

schestowitz[TR]

she does not need to prioritise that graft

DaemonFC

The only good news is they won't advertise HEIC in the HTTP request header, but rogue Web developers could see Webkit and assume everything with Webkit can handle them.

schestowitz[TR]

hard-restarting barrier seems to have solved it

schestowitz[TR]

i think ram being low was the culprit... and paging to disk

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: webp is bad enough

schestowitz[TR]

and swpats bomg

schestowitz[TR]

emember jpeg2000?

schestowitz[TR]

microsoft was pushing that, too

schestowitz[TR]

they sacrifice cross-device support

DaemonFC

The only thing we can do is ask Apple not to, refuse to implement it in WebkitGTK, and expand the useragent.cpp to include more UA hacks to avoid Web sites sending them to us as we find out about them.

schestowitz[TR]

for supposed "low bw ussage"

schestowitz[TR]

whiole throwing up megabytes of JS

DaemonFC

JPEG 2000 support is about to be removed from Webkit because Safari is removing it.

schestowitz[TR]

and then using more patent-encumbered formats

schestowitz[TR]

with larger binaries

DaemonFC

No point pushing it anymore. It's more than 20 years old.

schestowitz[TR]

and more dependencies

DaemonFC

No patents.

schestowitz[TR]

20 years, yes

schestowitz[TR]

for patents

schestowitz[TR]

same for mp3

schestowitz[TR]

mp3 is "dwad" btw

schestowitz[TR]

says media

DaemonFC

JPEG 2000 would have been a perfectly acceptable format had there been NO patents to license for it.

schestowitz[TR]

owned by patent holders

DaemonFC

The patent mess is what did their own standard in.

DaemonFC

At least they seem to have learned that lesson for JPEG-XL.

schestowitz[TR]

mp4 patentsd too start to run ouit

DaemonFC

So I don't see why we shouldn't recommend JPEG-XL.

schestowitz[TR]

so HEVC si pushed

schestowitz[TR]

and AV1

schestowitz[TR]

of course

schestowitz[TR]

liek you said, not they try to push mrna for flu

schestowitz[TR]

as if flu vaccines don't work

schestowitz[TR]

and we need to weed out generic remedies

DaemonFC

It is plausible that patent trolls will come at you for using JPEG-XL, which is true of any MODERN software. However, at least the creators have pledged not to sue and have given a worldwide irrevocable patent license for it.

schestowitz[TR]

they do this with a lot of pills that people take for a lifetime

schestowitz[TR]

and buy off the generics

DaemonFC

So it's not actively malicious.

schestowitz[TR]

to ensure no alternatives exist, unless you import

schestowitz[TR]

than they make the imports "illega"

schestowitz[TR]

"heal;th hazard"

schestowitz[TR]

"why wwould you buy from india???"

DaemonFC

We could conceivably see people get sued for Opus, but I still recommend it.

schestowitz[TR]

(the exactly same product we used to sell domestically anyway)

DaemonFC

As the years go by, even a patent troll popping out from under a bridge gets less likely.

schestowitz[TR]

mpeg-la does not do just swpats anymore

schestowitz[TR]

they move to more markets

schestowitz[TR]

to troll, tax, ruin

DaemonFC

Most of what Opus does was defined by 15 years ago or so.

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DaemonFC

So there's just not a huge window of exposure for theoretical patents.

schestowitz[TR]

patent evergreening

http://techrights.org/2019/10/30/patent-evergreening-kills/

schestowitz[TR]

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http://techrights.org/2020/07/08/fraunhofer-is-cartel/

schestowitz[TR]

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DaemonFC

The large majority of patents that are in the HEVC pool date back to AVC.

DaemonFC

So many expire in just a couple years or so.

DaemonFC

However, they add more.

starstreak

linucks

schestowitz[TR]

hevc is not a monolith

DaemonFC

Their goal is you may beat some but you'll never escape it all.

http://techrights.org/2015/07/26/hevc-cartel/

schestowitz[TR]

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DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], It's like the prosecutor charging you with 11 crimes for one offense.

Sep 25 01:01

DaemonFC

It gives him the leverage to extract a false confession.

Sep 25 01:01

DaemonFC

Then everyone goes "Well if you didn't do it, you wouldn't have taken a plea deal!".

Sep 25 01:01

DaemonFC

Including my mother.

schestowitz[TR]

yes, schqrtz was hit with doizens

schestowitz[TR]

swartz

DaemonFC

The system is so good at bullshitting people your own mom doesn't believe you when it turns on you.

DaemonFC

You know what she said to me when she finally lost the argument?

schestowitz[TR]

trump evades it

DaemonFC

"Well, if you hadn't followed John to Chicago, this wouldn't have happened!".

schestowitz[TR]

zcot-free

schestowitz[TR]

scot

schestowitz[TR]

it works in reverse too,m you know

DaemonFC

Like, "You deserve what the police did to you because you're a nasty homosexual and you went to live with John in Chicago and then it got worse and worse.".

schestowitz[TR]

"i am innocent because i didn't lose in court yet"

schestowitz[TR]

"i am not really guilty, but I settled with them" -poor person

XRevan86

scientes: Are ye around?

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], As far as I know, nobody has objected to my petition for expungement.

XRevan86

Did scientes actually get himself into trouble?

immibis_

DaemonFC: isn't that what you say about transgenders?

DaemonFC

Probably busy dealing with the shitshow that's unfolding every day in Lake Country to deal with whether I should have a record of a Class C Misdemeanor from three years ago.

schestowitz[TR]

scientes is online

DaemonFC

<immibis_> DaemonFC: isn't that what you say about transgenders?

DaemonFC

What did I say?

schestowitz[TR]

he did not accuse them of crimes

immibis_

you just generally hate them

immibis_

and want bad things to happen to them

DaemonFC

The only thing I said was I consider them to be a man who is horribly confused about something. I didn't say they should be punished or that I hate them.

Sep 25 01:06

DaemonFC

Keith in particular, you know, about the mental disorders. Especially the ones surrounding that.

Sep 25 01:06

DaemonFC

I would say if Keith had been younger than along the way to being a "trans woman" he would have been diagnosed with some trendy mental illness that everyone wants to have now for some reason.

Sep 25 01:07

DaemonFC

Like Autism.

Sep 25 01:07

DaemonFC

*then

Sep 25 01:07

DaemonFC

He has some sort of delusional warped perception of reality that significantly impairs his daily life, but not enough so that he absolutely cannot function.

Sep 25 01:08

DaemonFC

Who makes statements that they are horrified of even seeing cooked rice because "It reminds me of maggots."?

Sep 25 01:08

immibis_

what is the point of calling people delusional if you believe this should have no practical effect?

Sep 25 01:08

DaemonFC

I wasn't stating that being trans was the source of the delusions or the mental illness.

Sep 25 01:09

DaemonFC

I was saying it could be part of the outgrowth of the mental illness.

Sep 25 01:09

DaemonFC

One manifestation of whatever was causing his odd behavior and weird eating habits and stuff.

Sep 25 01:09

DaemonFC

I'd say that he's mentally ill for sure, but in a way that does not present an active threat to others.

Sep 25 01:10

schestowitz[TR]

anyway, back to tech

Sep 25 01:10

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: don't take bait

Sep 25 01:10

schestowitz[TR]

<immibis_> DaemonFC: isn't that what you say about transgenders?

Sep 25 01:11

schestowitz[TR]

seems odd this was brought up

Sep 25 01:11

immibis_

schestowitz[TR]: DaemonFC said something about police brutality against homosexuals.

Sep 25 01:11

schestowitz[TR]

seems like molotov/grenade throwing in irc

schestowitz[TR]

we spoke about patents and police pressing BS charges

DaemonFC

I don't think that the police should be allowed to act the way that they do to anyone who isn't presently committing a grave threat to the public or to the officer themselves.

schestowitz[TR]

I am still being copyright-trolled BTW

schestowitz[TR]

for over a month now

highest_cubist_thrills

such a waste, throwing a molotov cocktail on a dumpster fire

DaemonFC

In general, the police behave aggressively and commit illegal actions (and cover it up) towards people when there is no justification for it at all.

schestowitz[TR]

police is brutal to everyone

schestowitz[TR]

inc. gays

starstreak

they treat trans even worse

schestowitz[TR]

yes, but that's far off topic

DaemonFC

One of the dangers of the Illinois Workers Rights Amendment is the police can nullify the police reforms in the SAFE-T Act, including body cameras, by negotiating it all away in a new "labor contract", which will preempt the law.

starstreak

i got charged for serving court papers

schestowitz[TR]

and controversial, divisive among both men and women

schestowitz[TR]

so let's focus on tech

DaemonFC

So, I intend to vote NO on the so-called "Workers Rights Amendment".

starstreak

i use arch linucks btw

DaemonFC

The language of the amendment is dangerous and the positive part is already established in statute.

schestowitz[TR]

going to post daily links now

schestowitz[TR]

not much done today and a guest was over here

DaemonFC

So there's no pressing, dire need to pass this as-is.

starstreak

waiting for the gnome 43 update in arch linucks

schestowitz[TR]

why?

Sep 25 01:17

schestowitz[TR]

what do you need in it? ;-)

Sep 25 01:17

DaemonFC

It should have more progress in the transition to GTK4.

DaemonFC

That's probably the biggest line item.

schestowitz[TR]

coffee o'clock

DaemonFC

Nautilus and GNOME Web were both left out last time.

schestowitz[TR]

wqill record 3 videos shortly

schestowitz[TR]

in a row

DaemonFC

"When it's ready!"

frog

and GTK4 locked into OpenGL, cannot be removed anymore

starstreak

Gnome Web seems cool but no extensions makes it useless

frog

didn't verify dbus/systemd anymore

DaemonFC

It's going to support them eventually.

Sep 25 01:19

DaemonFC

The enablement work is happening now.

Sep 25 01:19

frog

out of curiosity, if TinyGL sufficed with GTK4... doubt it would

Sep 25 01:19

techrights-ipfs-bot

frog

with GTK4 this entire project is a total write-off

https://debugpointnews.com/gnome-web-43-extension/

DaemonFC

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starstreak

DaemonFC, Coming in GNOME 43

Sep 25 01:21

starstreak

thats cool :D

Sep 25 01:21

starstreak

another reason im waiting for arch to release gnome 43

DaemonFC

Everything except WebRequest should work.

DaemonFC

That's going to have to be added on top in the GTK port of Webkit at some future date.

starstreak

firefox is kinda pissing me off, maybe gnome web will be better (once there are extensions)

DaemonFC

But GNOME Web does support Webkit Content Blockers and advertisements are disabled by default.

frog

plague and colera, pick your poison

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DaemonFC

It uses the Easylist Content Blocker.

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starstreak

DaemonFC, i need privacy badger and decentraleyes too

techrights-news

[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D710.jpg

Sep 25 01:24

DaemonFC

Well, for now it's EasyList Content Blocker and Intelligent Tracking Protection.

Sep 25 01:24

techrights-news

[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D364.jpg

Sep 25 01:25

starstreak

its pretty cool that you can use firefox extensions

Sep 25 01:27

techrights-news

Weird. You never have such problems with cash. Is this smart? Does this make life simpler? Or simpler for govs. and companies to spy on everything you do (both location and purchases)? https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-apple-pay-not-working/

Sep 25 01:30

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Sep 25 01:30

schestowitz[TR]

firefox still has extensions ??!?!?!

starstreak

yes, why wouldn't it?

techuser

depends

schestowitz[TR]

they kill so many

techuser

not anymore / yes

schestowitz[TR]

xul for starters

techuser

old extensions were killed

schestowitz[TR]

inc. some extensions of minr

schestowitz[TR]

iirc, highest_cubist_thrills made some too

techuser

new extensions were introduced

schestowitz[TR]

mozilla doesn't care

schestowitz[TR]

it sees volunteers devs as serfs

starstreak

ublock origin, decentraleyes and privacy badger updated to the new standard

schestowitz[TR]

theme-ing used to be nice

schestowitz[TR]

now it seems to have been reduce to some images at the top

schestowitz[TR]

no menu icons, scrollsbars, context menus

highest_cubist_thrills

they arent standards

schestowitz[TR]

they killed off useful APIs

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre just fashion

highest_cubist_thrills

now, sometimes they have a good reason.

highest_cubist_thrills

its true. sometimes old versions of things are shit

schestowitz[TR]

starstreak: "what mozilla says" is not a standard]

highest_cubist_thrills

openbsd breaks openbsd when it sees fit.

highest_cubist_thrills

good excuses arent the same as good reasons

highest_cubist_thrills

usually, they do things based on excuses

highest_cubist_thrills

and bullshit

highest_cubist_thrills

theoeretically, sometimes in practice

schestowitz[TR]

they needless destroyed a lot of thunderbird and firerfox software

schestowitz[TR]

that was most useful

highest_cubist_thrills

newer is better

highest_cubist_thrills

just not usually.

schestowitz[TR]

they even castrated firefox and thunderbird

schestowitz[TR]

proper pgp support, rss

starstreak

thunderbird was always trash, its bloated and slow

schestowitz[TR]

only the logos remain... and evolve

schestowitz[TR]

they're run like brands and spam you with brands

starstreak

so whats better than firefox?

schestowitz[TR]

not much

schestowitz[TR]

but librewolf helps a little

schestowitz[TR]

at least it takes some control away from moz

schestowitz[TR]

which is a good start

starstreak

doesnt fix the extensions issue though

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

pale moon does, maybe.. or just waterfox

schestowitz[TR]

and waterfox is mlaware now

schestowitz[TR]

it's owned by a spying conglemerate

schestowitz[TR]

the www will only get worse

schestowitz[TR]

better to startt lookig beyond it

schestowitz[TR]

like we did with social control media

schestowitz[TR]

better sooner, not lkater

schestowitz[TR]

linux might be the same

schestowitz[TR]

for many computers the new features are BS

schestowitz[TR]

they are not therre for most users

schestowitz[TR]

but the croporate inbterests

schestowitz[TR]

10 years ago you waited for linux to have a major new release

schestowitz[TR]

as it fixed or added something

schestowitz[TR]

now... not really

starstreak

i don't see gemini really gaining much traction among non tech people

highest_cubist_thrills

maybe theyre using mozilla versioning now

schestowitz[TR]

the new stuff is of little use to you

highest_cubist_thrills

both are tied to the linux foundation right

highest_cubist_thrills

obviously linux is

highest_cubist_thrills

linucks

schestowitz[TR]

linux in 2030 is linux 30

starstreak

i recently switched from brave to firefox

schestowitz[TR]

one version bumb every 3 months ;-)

schestowitz[TR]

*bump

schestowitz[TR]

systemd adopted that

schestowitz[TR]

windows NT also

starstreak

linucks

schestowitz[TR]

is vista 11 just NT 7?

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schestowitz[TR]

or 6.1?

schestowitz[TR]

was that vista 7?

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Sep 25 01:40

starstreak

what about ReactOS?

Sep 25 01:47

highest_cubist_thrills

github

Sep 25 01:47

highest_cubist_thrills

mostly relies on non-free drivers

highest_cubist_thrills

patent liability from hell

MinceR

not sure why, though

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I've taken a lot of swipes at GSK for the fluoride-free toothpaste.

MinceR

i could write an "OS" that freezes without any drivers

MinceR

really, freezing doesn't need drivers

DaemonFC

"Does GSK warrant that their fluoride-free Natean toothpaste will provide the same level of cavity protection? No."

Sep 25 01:49

DaemonFC

"Who pays for fillings and extractions if it doesn't? Not them!"

Sep 25 01:49

highest_cubist_thrills

lol

Sep 25 01:49

DaemonFC

"What they're doing with Natean toothpaste is essentially to hoodwink "health conscious" consumers." "A deeply disturbing trend towards scientific illiteracy has been unfolding in America for decades, and now we're to the point where a "food mommy" with a blog can literally target random chemicals that she can't pronounce and, without a relevant degree hanging on her wall of any field of science, much less not having any clinical studies in

Sep 25 01:50

DaemonFC

support, claims that they all cause cancer or something." "When she collected her first "scalp" it was to go after Subway for having Azodicarbonamide in the bread as a trace ingredient. Without any evidence, she "linked" it to a whole host of health conditions, and then shamed them into getting rid of it by having the media refer to it as "the yoga mat chemical"." "Seeing an opening, corporate America immediately flooded store shelves with

Sep 25 01:50

DaemonFC

reformulated products. Which contain completely different chemicals that she hasn't gone after yet, which are also usually a tongue-twister, and if that's not bad enough, GSK is now pandering to the anti-fluoride crowd too."

Sep 25 01:50

DaemonFC

"See, the majority of Natean (which was interestingly, the name of a villain in the Lucian Alliance in Stargate SG-1), toothpastes say they are fluoride-free."

DaemonFC

MinceR, ^

MinceR

DaemonFC

"Fluoridation of toothpaste was a miracle of scientific accomplishment, in the 1950s, when it hit the shelves, as was fluoridation of public drinking water. Tooth decay was arrested to the extent that dental caries in children (who are most at risk, you see) went down by over 85% over the next decade. However, an anti-science movement sweeping America like a plague is leaving some towns without fluoridation, which costs only pennies, and is

DaemonFC

scaring the hell out of parents into buying expensive toothpaste that does a really shitty job at preventing decay of teeth. Manual removal of plaque is really all non-fluoridated toothpaste has left. It costs a lot of money to go to the dentist, and the victims of anti-fluoride movements are often poor and uninsured. They end up flocking into hospital emergency rooms across America getting emergency dental extractions and walk around missing

DaemonFC

teeth."

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Sep 25 01:59

DaemonFC

"Mom never gets her vaccines. In a single year, she managed to fall out of the vaccine-preventable respiratory illness tree and hit every single one (pneumonia, flu, and COVID) on the way down. She fought with me to the point where I thought we weren't going to speak again for 10 years before she marched down to the doctor and got Paxlovid and then said "I feel much better now. Thank you!"."

Sep 25 02:01

DaemonFC

"On top of making fun of me for getting my vaccines and skipping over all of that, mom also makes fun of me for taking my Crestor to keep my cholesterol down (very small dose). She actually says things like, "Cholesterol levels don't matter."."

Sep 25 02:01

DaemonFC

"I told her, "And you can pour all of the hamburger and bacon grease you want down the drain until you can't."."

Sep 25 02:02

DaemonFC

MinceR, Reminds me of my washing machine that came with a sticker on it.

Sep 25 02:02

DaemonFC

It said "Bubbles are fun until they're not. Please be careful not to use too much laundry soap. Read the manual. Page 27.".

Sep 25 02:02

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Sep 25 02:05

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], Mom got an identical washer to me and it konked out after a year.

Sep 25 02:07

DaemonFC

I said, "Well, have you been cleaning the lint traps".

Sep 25 02:07

DaemonFC

She goes, "Lint traps?".

Sep 25 02:08

DaemonFC

Sep 25 02:08

DaemonFC

She was telling me all about Crestor and how it was going to fuck up my brain and then she left her Instant Pot on the stove and turned the stove on and destroyed her Instant Pot with the stove.

Sep 25 02:09

DaemonFC

MinceR, ^

Sep 25 02:09

DaemonFC

I never said mjg59_ was stupid or scientifically illiterate. He's like MARISOL.

Sep 25 02:13

DaemonFC

He's a Dark Triad personality type.

Sep 25 02:13

DaemonFC

He knows that there's no biological basis for being "trans" and the "RealFact" about gender, not the party line.

Sep 25 02:14

DaemonFC

But he goes against it because he has his own reasons to.

Sep 25 02:14

DaemonFC

Just like how he's dishonest about quite a lot else.

Sep 25 02:14

MinceR

what sort of "RealFact" do you mean?

Sep 25 02:15

DaemonFC

What was commonly accepted by biologists before they rejected scientific fact and adopted wokeness instead.

Sep 25 02:15

MinceR

which was...?

DaemonFC

At this point they're about as legitimate as psychiatrists.

DaemonFC

When the facts don't agree with you, bullshit your way past them until you find something that flies in the current political environment.

MinceR

i see we'll never find out

DaemonFC

<MinceR> which was...?

DaemonFC

Two genders.

MinceR

and which of those two do people with chromosome disorders go?

DaemonFC

This was not controversial before everybody lost their minds and we had riots in the streets and cars on fire, including maybe our cars, and had to look away from it all or else we were racist.

MinceR

which of those two do people with mutated sex hormones or sex hormone receptors go?

MinceR

where do chimeras go?

DaemonFC

Cheaper to declare your car a loss than it is to complain about it and become an unemployable pariah.

MinceR

knowing more than 1 bit about biology and knowing a bit of nuance is not "losing your mind"

DaemonFC

Same ZIP code as the rest of what mjg59_'s ilk is after.

highest_cubist_thrills

its ironic as FUCK that to keep the master race going, nazis have to recruit from the bottom of the iq range

Sep 25 02:19

highest_cubist_thrills

if hitler saw this he would probably eat another chocolate and shoot himself again

Sep 25 02:19

techrights-ipfs-bot

DaemonFC

I'm sure that the bulk of the Nazi muscle wasn't their best and brightest.

highest_cubist_thrills

youtube: hitler reacts to the fucking loser idiots in the neonazi parties

DaemonFC

You don't send the scientists out with a rifle in hand to go fight your war.

highest_cubist_thrills

WHO ARE THESE FUCKING MORONS! *throws pencils*

highest_cubist_thrills

DIDNT ANYONE SCREEN THEM TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY INTELLIGENCE!

Sep 25 02:21

highest_cubist_thrills

THEYRE MAKING THE PARTY INTO A LAUGHING STOCK!

Sep 25 02:21

DaemonFC

I'm not a member of any Nazi Party.

Sep 25 02:22

DaemonFC

There is an American Nazi Party, but most estimates of their membership are less than 12,000 people in a country of at least 340 million.

Sep 25 02:23

MinceR

there's also a "republican" party

Sep 25 02:23

DaemonFC

There's also a Communist and Socialist Party, combined membership of 140,000 or so.

MinceR

i wonder if the "republicans" will manage to cure themselves of ruscism by 2024

DaemonFC

Probably not.

DaemonFC

There's a party schism right now.

DaemonFC

The Trump-wing is strong enough to win primaries, but that doesn't necessarily help them.

DaemonFC

Take Dr. Oz for example.

DaemonFC

Trump went full force for Dr. Oz, he won Pennsylvania's Republican primary by a nose.

DaemonFC

Now he's doing very badly in the polling and will likely throw an election that they could have won.

DaemonFC

Unless one side or the other emerges with a clear victory, they're going to keep throwing winnable elections to the Democrats.

Sep 25 02:28

DaemonFC

The biggest thing in the way of Trumpist policies right now is Trump himself.

Sep 25 02:29

DaemonFC

He's just plowed the road to a believable scenario where the Democrats emerge with at least control of the Senate and Biden has at least two more years to pack the federal bench as quickly as possible.

Sep 25 02:29

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Sep 25 03:15

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techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 04:20

DaemonFC

mjg59_ thinks I'm a racist, well, let's back the truck up and evaluate this.

Sep 25 04:33

DaemonFC

You want millions of Mexicans crashing into our country every year. Then you wonder why abortion is illegal.

Sep 25 04:33

DaemonFC

Abortion's illegal in most of Mexico on down, isn't it?

Sep 25 04:34

DaemonFC

You bring in the people that have those beliefs, you get a country with those laws.

Sep 25 04:34

DaemonFC

Right now, it's like 12 states, but it'll be more. You get a lot of Hispanic/Latino Trumpists.

Sep 25 04:34

DaemonFC

It's the elephant in the room. They get their papers and then they vote, for Trump.

Sep 25 04:35

DaemonFC

Obama ended Wet Foot/Dry Foot days before Trump took office. Why?

Sep 25 04:35

DaemonFC

99% of the Cubans who eventually vote in the US vote Republican.

Sep 25 04:35

DaemonFC

It's not like Hispanic/Latino voters are Safe Democrat.

Sep 25 04:36

DaemonFC

They're unpredictable.

Sep 25 04:36

DaemonFC

THey gave us Bush.

Sep 25 04:36

DaemonFC

Most of the states out West? Bush did very well. Bush used his 8 years and planted a bunch of Republicans that struck down Rot.

Sep 25 04:37

DaemonFC

*Roe

Sep 25 04:37

DaemonFC

So you say you want immigrants, until you figure out how they're changing your country and fucking it up in all sorts of non-progressive ways.

Sep 25 04:37

DaemonFC

Democrat politicians are welcoming their own demise with open arms.

Sep 25 04:38

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highest_cubist_thrills

how gnome works https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WpnM37A4P_8

Sep 25 05:02

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Sep 25 05:02

highest_cubist_thrills

HOLY SHIT, WE KILLED YOUR FOUNDER!

highest_cubist_thrills

FSF: yeah yeah yeah, do you guys know anything about corporations?

highest_cubist_thrills

underpants GNOME: of course we do! why?

highest_cubist_thrills

FSF: we need money.

https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/25/crazy-russian-charged-with-obstruction/

highest_cubist_thrills

underpants GNOME: have you asked microsoft?

Sep 25 05:07

highest_cubist_thrills

kyle: look, we gotta know about corporate takeovers or were screwed

Sep 25 05:09

highest_cubist_thrills

underpants gnomes: have you heard of GNOME?

Sep 25 05:09

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Sep 25 05:40

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Sep 25 06:43

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf should do more than just "fight for your freedom"-- it should TEACH people how to stand for their rights. this isnt going to be taught in schools.

Sep 25 06:44

highest_cubist_thrills

(it wont of course, its a defunct organisation)

Sep 25 06:44

highest_cubist_thrills

the system itself has figured out over time how to absorb a great deal of the energy that people put into demanding their rights.

Sep 25 06:44

highest_cubist_thrills

ike a politician making a speech during their campaign, then doing precisely the opposite once elected, organisations are very good at tailoring their messages to a particular audience, drawing them in, and then doing fuck-all towards those goals.

Sep 25 06:45

highest_cubist_thrills

politics in general have become a lot like a larp event.

Sep 25 06:45

highest_cubist_thrills

its all in good fun and everybody feels like something got accomplished, but when all is said and done very little changes-- all those motions we went through put us on track to end up: right back where we started

Sep 25 06:46

highest_cubist_thrills

there is a process for turning real organisations into these larp orgs-- there are many more for dressing up larp orgs as real ones.

Sep 25 06:46

highest_cubist_thrills

its a bad sign of course, when people you know are against what you stand for start donating more and more to your cause

Sep 25 06:46

highest_cubist_thrills

when the damage is done, they will withdraw their support-- it doesnt mean things are (or even will be) fixed.

Sep 25 06:47

highest_cubist_thrills

this is about keeping politics in a holding pattern, getting people to spin their wheels on nonsense and diverting people from their own efforts at making the world a better place.

Sep 25 06:47

highest_cubist_thrills

the fediverse is a monument to fake progress and cancel culture, having hijacked itself to attack stallman and free software. the fediverse is as much a community of activists as fly paper is a community of flies

Sep 25 06:48

highest_cubist_thrills

the mailing lists of the defunct fsf are scarcely better, if not worse.

Sep 25 06:48

highest_cubist_thrills

of course these progress-traps are baited with lots of messages and "campaigns" that are progressive and ecumenical on the surface. i was complaining about how fake they were before stallman got cancelled

Sep 25 06:49

highest_cubist_thrills

and if they pose a threat to people like stallman, they pose a threat to anyone who wants to make as much of a difference as stallman as well

Sep 25 06:49

highest_cubist_thrills

these are things that are based on lies, redirection and fooling people into thinking theyre fighting FOR the things these initiatives actually stand against

Sep 25 06:49

highest_cubist_thrills

its a combination of corporate astroturfing, corporate image management and crowdsourcing-- instead of just being fake and selling everyone out, now YOU are invited to HELP them do it

Sep 25 06:50

highest_cubist_thrills

stallman at least, realised github was treachery. he warned us about that, we should have listened. now gnu moves towards github and stallman does: well, nothing

Sep 25 06:51

highest_cubist_thrills

the real treachery here is that the fsf does nothing, and the GNU MAINTAINERS also do nothing

Sep 25 06:52

highest_cubist_thrills

the only way to free the user is to work on both technical and political solutions

Sep 25 06:52

highest_cubist_thrills

its not that stallman is infallible, perfect, or above reproach-- its simply that hes a GOOD person who deserves HONEST treatment. he didnt get that, and it was a betrayal of all of us (though certainly him more than anybody else)

Sep 25 06:53

highest_cubist_thrills

it was undeniably a betrayal of the movement, and that sort of treachery (still ongoing) cannot be ignored or brushed aside as merely a "bad idea"

Sep 25 06:53

highest_cubist_thrills

MOST "progress" is actually fake progress-- it sings you a song that you like to hear, then invites you to work for free and do what they KNOW is best, and they back it all up with lies and bullshit

Sep 25 06:54

highest_cubist_thrills

collaboration is essential-- but troublesome. stallman has done more than most of us will ever do-- and even he was hijacked, exiled in place, tortured (on some level, absolutely) and co-opted.

Sep 25 06:54

highest_cubist_thrills

some of the old bastions are lost to history. this is especially more true the more bloated and dependency-laden something is

Sep 25 06:55

highest_cubist_thrills

unix was more "trivial" to recreate, many people have done so (badly or otherwise) but gnome? hopeless. bloat is just a specific type of planned obsolescence

Sep 25 06:55

highest_cubist_thrills

people who oversimplify and hijack issues so they can beat their chests over "progress" that keeps going in circles (for no reason other than it being easier to fake) are keeping people from learning from past mistakes

Sep 25 06:56

highest_cubist_thrills

we wont "inch our way forward" against the takeover-- some leaps will be needed, some people will slander positive (political) change because it actually STANDS for something-- when they DONT

Sep 25 06:56

highest_cubist_thrills

fake progressives (implying there is such thing as a real one) ultimately side with the same people who betrayed us, and then speak against us for trying to move away from corruption and bullshit

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highest_cubist_thrills

hey are in it for influence alone, and the progress they offer is fabricated, imaginary, and very minor. its (always) going to take more than that, and thats why what they offer is, in reality, basically nothing. you get the appearance of progress, sans most of the costs or the benefit

highest_cubist_thrills

making tiny, imaginary, insignificant changes to the overall plan isnt progress. the people advocating that will lie about what our real plans are, they will say the things we want to do are "too hard" while their own proposals already failed in practice

Sep 25 06:58

highest_cubist_thrills

stallman is exiled in place and he will never be back

Sep 25 06:58

highest_cubist_thrills

the intent (to which the fsf is a complacent, corrupt and guilty party) behind his permanent exile is no more noble or justifiable (or hopeful) than the capture, torture and ultimately the death of julian assange

highest_cubist_thrills

stallman is undone, and his movement is effectively dead; neutered-- stallmans "child" (his wording) cannot produce viable offspring

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highest_cubist_thrills

this was deliberate and by design

highest_cubist_thrills

the free software movement is dead and gone.

techrights-news

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highest_cubist_thrills

it hasnt moved forward in years

highest_cubist_thrills

its time to pull the sheet over its head and stop with the weekend at bernies sequel. open source is nothing but a fake and corporate free software movement, as useful as trying to cook and eat a duck decoy

highest_cubist_thrills

open source is all thats left of what was

techrights-news

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highest_cubist_thrills

the only free software movement left is the fake corporate bullshit one

highest_cubist_thrills

dead and gone doesnt mean that free software will never come back

highest_cubist_thrills

just dont wait for stallman or the fsf, because they really wont ever be back

highest_cubist_thrills

i give gnu until 2029, but thats really generous

Sep 25 07:02

highest_cubist_thrills

very little of gnu will be salvaged. this is a terrible shame, but a mirror that is not part of any truly free os does not mean the gnu project is alive, it means it is archived-- part of a virtual museum

Sep 25 07:02

highest_cubist_thrills

im all for a gnu museum, as in many ways its the most important operating system of all time. the purpose of such a museum? to learn from history

Sep 25 07:02

highest_cubist_thrills

in many ways its the most important operating system of all time

highest_cubist_thrills

but if you want the 4 freedoms (including the 5th freedom, the freedom to remove the software) youre probably better off just taking openbsd and cutting out any vestiges of non-free software like hyperbola tries to do

techrights-news

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-andrealmeid.com | futex2 at Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 | tony is coding

highest_cubist_thrills

(maybe they can fix a few things in the process. probably not, due to lack of involvement)

highest_cubist_thrills

you could of course, also try building your own os. i think starting with openbsd is more practical-- why openbsd? its the most forkable (and most free) os there is SO FAR

techrights-news

"Using your mouse to slide the trombone’s pitch up or down" ☛ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/09/23/what-is-trombone-champ/ | Source: Digital Music News

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highest_cubist_thrills

its far more forkable (in theory, and in demonstrable practice) than gnu/linux. its NOT that i think its already as free as it should be. its only the closest

highest_cubist_thrills

to me, a free operating system means you have the 4 freedoms and control of your computing

techrights-news

KDE review ☛ https://prose.nsood.in/kde-review | Source: Naman Sood

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-prose.nsood.in | KDE review – Prose

highest_cubist_thrills

systemd/linux on the other hand, is just a blob of an operating system with a blob of a kernel. its not literally a blob because you get the sources. its effectively a blob because for these projects, saying you have freedom 1 and freedom 3 is laughable-- a farce

highest_cubist_thrills

its certainly true on paper. again, i compare it to the united states constitution in the present day. wasnt the bill of rights always true, at least on paper?

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean, those promises are still made. the gpl upholds the 4 freedoms much like the law upholds the rights outlined in the constitution and its amendments

highest_cubist_thrills

and thats going SO well.

highest_cubist_thrills

the gpl upholds the 4 freedoms much like the law upholds the rights outlined in the constitution

highest_cubist_thrills

systemd/linux still puts microsoft and ibm back in control of your computing. here i thought we were trying to get away from monopolies controlling what we do

highest_cubist_thrills

if not, then free software was truly never enough and thats the fucking problem

highest_cubist_thrills

just as likely though, the rewriting (reframing) of the history of the movement by open source (and now the fsf and whats left of the movement itself) has shifted the goalposts

highest_cubist_thrills

you know, when they shift the goalposts... its not USUALLY to bring them back to where they were when we were LESS well off

highest_cubist_thrills

except in a counterrevolution, of course.

highest_cubist_thrills

once the community is taken over by corporate trolls, there is no way to "fix" anything but try to work "with" them. this is as much a recipe for takeover as systemd and replacing gnu programs with rust programs are

highest_cubist_thrills

we took your shit

techrights-news

Dan Lorenc ☛ https://www.wired.com/story/chainguard-wolfi-linux-distribution/ | Source: Wired

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A New Linux Tool Aims to Guard Against Supply Chain Attacks | WIRED

highest_cubist_thrills

if you want any claim on it

techrights-news

"Instead, it is a container-focused Linux distribution. So, let me tell you more about it" ☛ https://news.itsfoss.com/wolfi-linux-undistro/ | Source: Its FOSS

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Wolfi is a Linux Un(distro) Built for Software Supply Chain Security

highest_cubist_thrills

you have to work for, i mean with, us

highest_cubist_thrills

you have to get permission, and keep it-- from the very same people the movement actually helped us escape from.

highest_cubist_thrills

thats a counterrevolution

techrights-news

"Linux undistribution" ☛ https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/22/wolfi-linux-undistro-software-supply-chain-security/ | Source: Help Net Security

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Wolfi: A Linux undistro with security measures for the software supply chain - Help Net Security

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"These are my FreeBSD machines at the time of writing: [...]" ☛ https://rubenerd.com/cartron-asks-what-freebsd-machines-i-use/ | Source: Ruben Schade

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DaemonFC

mjg59_, The famous liberal whose former employer is a corrupt adtech/spyware company that helps repressive regimes take political prisoners and execute people.

Sep 25 07:11

DaemonFC

He's back on his Shitter again.

Sep 25 07:11

highest_cubist_thrills

i fought against systemd because it destabilised the most stable, mainstream, NON-bullshit gnu/linux distro ive ever seen-- i never thought debian would be co-opted and destroyed. this was more political than it was technical

Sep 25 07:11

highest_cubist_thrills

and of course its upstream from the fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

who did nothing.

highest_cubist_thrills

the developers are the most obnoxious dicks with serious entitlement about what runs on my computers that ive dealt with since i stopped using windows

DaemonFC

The FSF is stuffed full of WOKE hippies. You'd think it couldn't get worse AFTER it stopped getting IBM cash to keep its goddamned mouth shut on the issues.

DaemonFC

But amazingly it has.

highest_cubist_thrills

its open source that stresses technical solutions only

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this way, when corporations want to run the politics of everything, they can work to control what technical solutions are available to you-- and you cant form a retort because THAT WOULD BE POLITICAL!

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free software never was that stupid.

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it is now.

DaemonFC

Ironically, open source is winning because people want to get away from politics.

highest_cubist_thrills

I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. But I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria... <- stallman

highest_cubist_thrills

so basically, the way you overthrow gnu and the freedom it stands for is to build a bullshit operating system on top of the existing one. AND THAT IS EXACTLY what systemd has done

DaemonFC

You open up Firefox and it's stuffing black "trans" women welding something in your face because reasons.

highest_cubist_thrills

and since its not TECHNICALLY gnu, the gnu people can just chase their tail trying to conform to ibms specifications

DaemonFC

Nobody wants that shit. It's a Web browser. Fuck off.

DaemonFC

It's the equal and opposite of Trump having to "own the libs" all the time.

Sep 25 07:15

highest_cubist_thrills

this two-operating-system scam presents itself all over the place: theres an os in your hard drive controller, which you have no control over; theres a second os in your cpu, which most people would have to get someone else to remove for them

Sep 25 07:15

highest_cubist_thrills

the raspberry spy has a non-free, microsoft-owned operating system in the gpu. theres even a non-free os in your phone that runs underneath the (practically) non-free os in your phone

Sep 25 07:15

highest_cubist_thrills

systemd is a cuckold, quasi-proprietary operating system for your otherwise-free os. but as systemd takes over, gnu becomes a zombie-- not just in terms of what happens at runtime, but the design of the project itself

Sep 25 07:16

highest_cubist_thrills

we have spent more than half a decade being roped into working for ibm for free, and the fsf has done: NOTHING

Sep 25 07:16

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 07:20

highest_cubist_thrills

it wont be rot of any sort that brings gnu down, it will be pulled down directly by the corporations who purchased it just like github and red hat. the rot just means they wont have to pull so hard

Sep 25 07:21

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf would never sell off a big ticket item like the gnu project. but they were foolish and/or corrupt enough to pawn it off in individual pieces

Sep 25 07:22

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont know what they got for it, but they did have sponsors-- and those sponsors have increasing control of gnu. the details are interesting, but the outcome is whats most relevant here

Sep 25 07:22

highest_cubist_thrills

the gnu developers (overall) are not even interested in preventing this. the projects within gnu that get the most support are the same ones that have rigged gnu for destruction (and most likely the ones that forged stallmans personal website resignation)

Sep 25 07:23

highest_cubist_thrills

gnu is being dismantled faster than it can rot

Sep 25 07:23

highest_cubist_thrills

the pieces will go where they go, and gnu will be reduced from an operating system to applications

Sep 25 07:23

highest_cubist_thrills

they will requires infrastructure (hosting as well as software as well as developer communications) that gnu itself has no real control over

Sep 25 07:24

highest_cubist_thrills

at this point, the technical failure of gnu to follow its mission should be clear.

Sep 25 07:24

highest_cubist_thrills

gnu will be (already is) controlled by the same corporations that gnu was effectively a rebellion from

Sep 25 07:24

highest_cubist_thrills

its a misdirection to say that ibm and microsoft werent the same corporations gnu rebelled from

Sep 25 07:25

highest_cubist_thrills

it doesnt matter which corporations controlled your computing THEN

Sep 25 07:25

highest_cubist_thrills

what matters is that ibm and microsoft control your computing NOW

Sep 25 07:25

highest_cubist_thrills

and the same corporations that control your computing, ALSO control the gnu project.

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gnu

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does

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nothing.

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it doesnt liberate

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it doesnt give you control of anything

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because you. do. not. control it.

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ibm does.

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microsoft does.

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just like they control other options.

highest_cubist_thrills

gnu wasnt a farce-- but it is now.

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modern computing is owned primarily by the same people that are working to dismantle and ultimately own gnu

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so what does gnu liberate the user from?

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it doesnt liberate them from anything.

highest_cubist_thrills

it frees you from corporations that control your computing...

Sep 25 07:28

highest_cubist_thrills

and then hands you over to corporations that control your computing.

Sep 25 07:28

highest_cubist_thrills

thats fake progress.

Sep 25 07:28

highest_cubist_thrills

what the fsf (a defunct organisation) will ultimately do with gnu will be no different than what debian has done to itself or what the owners of linux have done to the kernel

highest_cubist_thrills

this is a pattern.

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its an anti-pattern; anti-patterns are patterns too.

highest_cubist_thrills

gnu will follow the same pattern of destruction.

highest_cubist_thrills

debian is gone. stallman is gone.

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the fsf is gone. gnu is as good as gone.

highest_cubist_thrills

nothing is protecting it.

highest_cubist_thrills

lots of things are taking it apart.

highest_cubist_thrills

the only thing holding it together is mythology

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marketing.

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bullshit.

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gnu is not just dead-- it will be continually robbed for parts.

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when the corporations that control your computering have robbed gnu of all the parts they need

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it will be tossed aside and forgotten.

highest_cubist_thrills

computering <- :)

highest_cubist_thrills

typos dont matter, everything is bullshit.

highest_cubist_thrills

you cant rob what belongs to everybody, obviously

highest_cubist_thrills

but of course you can. what else do you call the privatisation of the public sector?

highest_cubist_thrills

corporations have been robbing the public domain for decades at a minimum. the way you rob the public is by taking what everyone has and putting it under the control of a few who keep the public out

highest_cubist_thrills

private gatekeepers, public theft.

highest_cubist_thrills

not only is that the penchant of monopolies and the endgame of open source, it is the modus operandi of the tax-free software foundation:

highest_cubist_thrills

to turn free labour into products that are controlled by monopolies, who put relatively nothing financial into their development

Sep 25 07:33

highest_cubist_thrills

open source is a bait-and-switch scam. and this is what they scored from their mark: gnu itself

Sep 25 07:33

highest_cubist_thrills

by the time this operation is complete, gnu will not be gnu anymore

Sep 25 07:33

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf (defunct) will not run it-- the gnu developers will be more like unpaid employees,

highest_cubist_thrills

ultimately the present fate of red hat will be the fate of gnu itself

highest_cubist_thrills

it was always the plan, but almost certainly NOT for the fsf, at the time

highest_cubist_thrills

some gnu developers will hold on, but you will see a shakeup in gnu the way that debian has had shakeups since 2014.

highest_cubist_thrills

you will see a shakeup in gnu the way that debian has had shakeups since 2014.

highest_cubist_thrills

the latter has only grown more corporate. gnu has done and will continue to do the same

highest_cubist_thrills

neither project stands for anything anymore, least of all the freedom for users to control their computing

highest_cubist_thrills

the avalanche has already started.

highest_cubist_thrills

its at the top, while people further down are standing around saying "do you hear that?"

highest_cubist_thrills

instead of running for your life, youll more likely only be fleeing to look for whats left of computing freedom.

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but who are we kidding

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its already like that. and it has been for years.

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Sep 25 07:58

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also, because techrights buried the chapter of the coup about gnu.fools

highest_cubist_thrills

you havent heard much about it

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https://gnu.tools/en/thanks/

highest_cubist_thrills

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnu.tools | The GNU Assembly — Thanks

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Carlos O'Donell for maintaining and paying for the gnu.tools DNS.

highest_cubist_thrills

Andy Wingo for maintaining and paying for the current gnu.tools server.

highest_cubist_thrills

this one is the most interesting:

highest_cubist_thrills

Oregon State University Open Source Lab OSUOSL for providing various virtual machines to run the GNU Assembly services.

highest_cubist_thrills

has techrights ever talked about the role Oregon State University Open Source Lab played in the coup?

highest_cubist_thrills

no?

schestowitz[TR]

wait

highest_cubist_thrills

how ridiculous.

schestowitz[TR]

this is new to me

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah its new because you ignored it

schestowitz[TR]

oregon played a role?

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills

https://gnu.tools/en/thanks/ read

schestowitz[TR]

i didn't know

highest_cubist_thrills

you didnt bother.

schestowitz[TR]

in fact, i keep complaining that LF moved Linux from orgeon to SF/CA

highest_cubist_thrills

you pooh-poohed this whole angle

mjg59_

Oregon State University is not Oregon the State

schestowitz[TR]

who ever mentioned this?

highest_cubist_thrills

Oregon State University is not Oregon the State <- holy shit man

schestowitz[TR]

is there aanything else?

schestowitz[TR]

or just that?

highest_cubist_thrills

THATS BRILLIANT.

schestowitz[TR]

a lot of linux services are still oregon-based

mjg59_

Yeah but Roy seems confused

schestowitz[TR]

better than LF

highest_cubist_thrills

roy is a markov chain bot

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

i am not confuses

schestowitz[TR]

I shorten to oregon

schestowitz[TR]

I mean the university

mjg59_

08:01 < schestowitz[TR]> in fact, i keep complaining that LF moved Linux from orgeon to SF/CA

highest_cubist_thrills

/me typed in eliza.bas in the 80s or 90s

schestowitz[TR]

yes, oregon the uni

mjg59_

Oh you're just talking about kernel.org

schestowitz[TR]

it was involved since the 90s

mjg59_

Ok that makes sense

schestowitz[TR]

even somke of red hat and fedoa infra was there

highest_cubist_thrills

We, maintainers and contributors of well-known free software projects, are making this place our new home, fighting for the freedom of computer users and hacking the good hack.

highest_cubist_thrills

lying the good lies!

highest_cubist_thrills

https://gnu.tools/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnu.tools | The GNU Assembly — The GNU Assembly

schestowitz[TR]

the smiley started there too... the :-) simpley

highest_cubist_thrills

Governance, Not Unilateralism — This new home is governed by those who build it following common goals and sharing the same values. <- thats a laugh

schestowitz[TR]

iirc

highest_cubist_thrills

they split, but theyre about sharing goals and values.

schestowitz[TR]

anyway, I'm in the middle of writing

schestowitz[TR]

if there's more to it than the hosting of gnu.tools tell me

schestowitz[TR]

but they do lots of hosting

schestowitz[TR]

for many things

schestowitz[TR]

like fosshost does

schestowitz[TR]

biab

highest_cubist_thrills

right youre missing my point as usual

highest_cubist_thrills

you dont even look into these things.

highest_cubist_thrills

this is a whole chapter you just ignore

highest_cubist_thrills

its not about the individual points-- those are interesting too

highest_cubist_thrills

its about the whole chapter thats being ignored. and not looked into. and you say nothing about it.

highest_cubist_thrills

and i know why, because you said why

highest_cubist_thrills

you pooh pooh the whole thing. you said it failed

highest_cubist_thrills

have they relented? why are the still wasting resources on hosting?

highest_cubist_thrills

i know why.

highest_cubist_thrills

because the coup never ended.

highest_cubist_thrills

and pretending it failed accompishes nothing.

highest_cubist_thrills

and saying it failed one day

highest_cubist_thrills

then its still going

highest_cubist_thrills

then its dying

highest_cubist_thrills

then ibm and microsoft are dying

highest_cubist_thrills

then twitter and the webt

highest_cubist_thrills

but its just moving the point around and ignoring the big picture.

highest_cubist_thrills

its just a treadmill of noise.

Sep 25 08:07

highest_cubist_thrills

no direction. no progress. no perspective.

Sep 25 08:07

highest_cubist_thrills

no point.

Sep 25 08:07

highest_cubist_thrills

of course youll never understand this, i dont say this to help you understand.

highest_cubist_thrills

unlike mjg i know youre not reachable by any means.

highest_cubist_thrills

he thinks he can get through to you. if he just-- the perfect fact...

highest_cubist_thrills

the perfect question

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the perfect gotcha.

mjg59_

I try to be optimistic about humanity

highest_cubist_thrills

but you cant get the better of a markov chain bot

highest_cubist_thrills

it just continues along its merry way

highest_cubist_thrills

mjg is living the halting problem in human relations.

mjg59_

I will continue fighting Eliza until Eliza admits I am a well-balanced individual

highest_cubist_thrills

its impossible to tell if roys nonsense will ever halt, and turing already proved that

highest_cubist_thrills

I will continue fighting Eliza <- everyone needs a hobby

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until Eliza admits I am a well-balanced individual <- are you?

mjg59_

Oh right that's my confusion - I thought Roy was talking about LF itself moving from Oregon to SF, but LF was always SF-based - it was OSDL that was in Oregon

mjg59_

Is anyone really a well-balanced individual?

highest_cubist_thrills

LF was always SF-based - it was OSD <- this ambiguity on wikipedia and the osdl and lf pages

highest_cubist_thrills

is something ive mocked thoroughly in here

highest_cubist_thrills

its impossible to nail down when or where lf was founded

highest_cubist_thrills

because theres no official stance on whether it started with osdl or lf itself.

schestowitz[TR]

I did not say that

schestowitz[TR]

stop distorting thing

highest_cubist_thrills

which is not really a paradox-- its just handwavey corporate bullshit (imo)

schestowitz[TR]

*things

schestowitz[TR]

LT is based in Portland

highest_cubist_thrills

I did not say that <- doesnt matter, they did.

schestowitz[TR]

or near portland

schestowitz[TR]

and a lot of Linux hosting was always tghere

mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]: Uh yes that's why I said "I thought"

schestowitz[TR]

even OSDL IIRC

schestowitz[TR]

OSU

mjg59_

I was attempting to communicate that I'd misinterpreted you and explaining why

schestowitz[TR]

LF is just some charlatans and frauds

schestowitz[TR]

who look for the most expensive places to rent

schestowitz[TR]

when i said oregon i was abbreviating

schestowitz[TR]

my sister lives there

highest_cubist_thrills

when i said oregon i was abbreviating <- i would have done the same

highest_cubist_thrills

i MAY have done the same

highest_cubist_thrills

its common enough as a convention to refer to a university (in a casual context where its full name has been used)

highest_cubist_thrills

by the first word or location from the name

schestowitz[TR]

no eliza bot

schestowitz[TR]

just in the middle os typing

mjg59_

Anyone in Portland's going to say OSU to distinguish it from PSU

schestowitz[TR]

I was literally passing a reference number from one pc to another

schestowitz[TR]

and forgot where I was

highest_cubist_thrills

no eliza bot <- thats a broader diagnosis independent of this conversation.

schestowitz[TR]

irc is informal anyway

schestowitz[TR]

the irc bot is a little more polished

highest_cubist_thrills

Anyone in Portland's going to <- fair enouguh but most people on earth live outside portland

highest_cubist_thrills

which is relevant here

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean they may have terms for each other based on which half of the campus theyre on

Sep 25 08:15

highest_cubist_thrills

but how that demonstrates its relevance to the rest of the world is a matter yet to be determined

Sep 25 08:15

highest_cubist_thrills

the point remains that techrights has always pooh poohed an entire chapter of the coup

Sep 25 08:16

highest_cubist_thrills

and as a result done next to zero research on it

highest_cubist_thrills

and relatively speaking, zero reporting.

highest_cubist_thrills

i think its very interesting that osu and their "open source" lab is in control of much of the gnu project

highest_cubist_thrills

i would expect roy to find that interesting

highest_cubist_thrills

unfortunately, to even know that, you have to not dismiss that entire chapter of the story.

Sep 25 08:18

highest_cubist_thrills

oops?

Sep 25 08:18

highest_cubist_thrills

and its certainly not roys responsibility to push me to notice these things.

Sep 25 08:18

highest_cubist_thrills

but, if techrights covered any of this chapter

Sep 25 08:19

highest_cubist_thrills

i would have stayed on top of it more too

Sep 25 08:19

highest_cubist_thrills

im the one who noticed this, it would be a natural consequence that i would have done so sooner.

Sep 25 08:19

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 08:20

highest_cubist_thrills

since free software is dead and open source has taken over so corporations can control our computing

Sep 25 08:20

highest_cubist_thrills

i think its at least relevant that osu is participating in this sham.

Sep 25 08:20

highest_cubist_thrills

their degree of responsibility is not what interests me immediately

highest_cubist_thrills

how tf would anyone know that?

highest_cubist_thrills

what interests me is their open source lab is so void of ethics

highest_cubist_thrills

that they would assist in this blatant trademark fraud-- lying to and misleading the public.

highest_cubist_thrills

but hahaha

highest_cubist_thrills

its not trademark fraud if no one sues you, right?

highest_cubist_thrills

so...

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what theyre doing is

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seeing to it that gnu enters the public domain

highest_cubist_thrills

its being defrauded. fsf isnt challenging it.

highest_cubist_thrills

osi suffered the same fate

highest_cubist_thrills

techrights reported on osi losing its trademark status

highest_cubist_thrills

but as the same thing happens to gnu-- NO STORY!

highest_cubist_thrills

no defense-- no trademark. its not like copyright or patents as stallman is fond of pointing out

highest_cubist_thrills

you can call anything gnu now

highest_cubist_thrills

see if they stop you

highest_cubist_thrills

fsfe-- similar problem

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fsf used to care

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now they dont

mjg59_

I don't think there's been any OSI trademark dispute since 1998?

highest_cubist_thrills

you can call anything the free software foundation

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highest_cubist_thrills

I don't think there's been any OSI trademark dispute since 1998 <- there cant be

highest_cubist_thrills

open source fell into the public domain

mjg59_

OSI still holds trademarks, but they never actually attempted to claim "Open Source"

mjg59_

Bruce Perens just fucked that up

highest_cubist_thrills

they cried about it but they didnt gnash and wail their teeth because it wouldnt change the past.

highest_cubist_thrills

Bruce Perens just fucked that up <- and now the fsf does.

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so does gnu.

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mjg59_

But in any case, if you're worried about dilution of GNU, gnuplot has been around since 1986

highest_cubist_thrills

wail and gnash their teeth rather

highest_cubist_thrills

if you're worried about dilution of GNU <- im not worried. its too late to change the past.

highest_cubist_thrills

gnuplot has been around since 1986 <- yes this came up before

highest_cubist_thrills

its not about concern

highest_cubist_thrills

when people are strapped in in the death chamber, they might be frightened

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but they know theres nothing left to be done

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gnu will not be saved

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im simply interested in how it will die

highest_cubist_thrills

it exists in a number of ways

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trademark is one of the ways in which it exists

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trademark is one of the ways in which it will die

highest_cubist_thrills

trademarks that are undefended pass into the public domain

Sep 25 08:28

highest_cubist_thrills

gnu is already headed there-- the same fate as open source, which now pretty much means microsoft

Sep 25 08:28

highest_cubist_thrills

the press is already being handed their pencils and pads and having their phones taken.

Sep 25 08:28

highest_cubist_thrills

but they wont write about it

highest_cubist_thrills

they dont even need the pencils and pads

highest_cubist_thrills

they can just make up the news

highest_cubist_thrills

its all marketing now anyway

highest_cubist_thrills

there are even more important ways in which gnu is a dead project walking

Sep 25 08:30

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those are also ignored

highest_cubist_thrills

techrights has a history of ignoring the systemd takeover

highest_cubist_thrills

hes been warned since 2011

highest_cubist_thrills

if he had taken interest instead of pooh poohing it, if he had looked into it properly and written honestly

highest_cubist_thrills

then techrights readers wouldnt have been surprised by what happened to debian in 2014-2015

highest_cubist_thrills

instead, it came as a surprise. point being.

highest_cubist_thrills

when gnu is declared dead

highest_cubist_thrills

it will come as a surprise to those who werent told

highest_cubist_thrills

or who ignored most of it as it happened

highest_cubist_thrills

it will be less of a surprise to those who have been talking about it for years.

highest_cubist_thrills

at least the ones who are interested in facts and context

highest_cubist_thrills

and obviously the coup doesnt consider themselves death

highest_cubist_thrills

they mistake themselves for life

highest_cubist_thrills

but death does not care about you or me

highest_cubist_thrills

and if they kill gnu through their hubris

highest_cubist_thrills

they will just whistle a happy tune and go kill something else instead

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highest_cubist_thrills

"We contribute to projects that go back to the roots of free software. "

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah. a lot of you work for ibm and help them hijack gcc and gdb.

highest_cubist_thrills

so thats true.

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre attacking gnu at the very roots.

highest_cubist_thrills

a great way for it to die.

highest_cubist_thrills

Our interactions in this project are subject to its code of conduct. <- this was foisted on the gnu project when stallman was fraudulently shown to have resigned

highest_cubist_thrills

the coup is based o lies to the public.

highest_cubist_thrills

lies about stallman.

highest_cubist_thrills

lies about gnu governance.

highest_cubist_thrills

lies about freedom.

highest_cubist_thrills

and handing gnu over to corporations.

highest_cubist_thrills

in other words, its open source.

highest_cubist_thrills

this is the same thing osi did

highest_cubist_thrills

osi doesnt have to anymore

highest_cubist_thrills

osi was a big (Circus) tent outside the fsf for ages

highest_cubist_thrills

now theyve moved in

highest_cubist_thrills

microsoft moved into osi

highest_cubist_thrills

then osi moved into the fsf

highest_cubist_thrills

ms-fsf. hooray for fake progress.

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm, ms, doesnt matter

highest_cubist_thrills

theyve always been the same company.

highest_cubist_thrills

except when microsoft didnt exist

highest_cubist_thrills

dos: that was ibm. without ibm, it wasnt even microsoft.

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm offered basic on a rom cart.

highest_cubist_thrills

they didnt write it.

highest_cubist_thrills

that was microsoft

highest_cubist_thrills

microsoft is just an avatar of ibm

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highest_cubist_thrills

ibm engineered the holocaust

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf is dead and controlled by actual nazis

highest_cubist_thrills

hooray for sjws.

highest_cubist_thrills

its funny how when you zero in on the tiniest fucking details, as if nothing else matters...

Sep 25 08:41

highest_cubist_thrills

everything else falls apart.

Sep 25 08:41

highest_cubist_thrills

so we shouldnt be surprised that everything is destroyed

highest_cubist_thrills

after all

highest_cubist_thrills

everyone stopped giving a shit about everythign but the smallest little shit.

highest_cubist_thrills

and all decisions were based on things that were fucking made up.

highest_cubist_thrills

fiction is doing BEAUTIFULLY well

highest_cubist_thrills

so is ibm

highest_cubist_thrills

but reality is sucking pretty fucking hard.

Sep 25 08:43

highest_cubist_thrills

everyone has their priorities, i guess.

Sep 25 08:43

highest_cubist_thrills

except free software, which no longer exists.

Sep 25 08:43

highest_cubist_thrills

"post stallman free software" the article read

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highest_cubist_thrills

nope.

highest_cubist_thrills

ANTI-stallman free software.

highest_cubist_thrills

like anti-einstein relativity

highest_cubist_thrills

they didnt cancel stallman

highest_cubist_thrills

they destroyed the fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

they destroyed gnu.

highest_cubist_thrills

they killed free software.

highest_cubist_thrills

when iraq was invaded, they promised it would be quick

highest_cubist_thrills

saddam would fall

highest_cubist_thrills

iraq would improve

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highest_cubist_thrills

the critics said:

highest_cubist_thrills

it will be drawn out for years --- they were laughed at

highest_cubist_thrills

i was one of them

highest_cubist_thrills

they said: saddams fall would create a power vacuum-- they were laughed at

highest_cubist_thrills

i was one of them

highest_cubist_thrills

they said iraq will get worse

highest_cubist_thrills

thats what happened

highest_cubist_thrills

it was drawn out for years.

highest_cubist_thrills

saddams fall created a power vacuum.

highest_cubist_thrills

things have only gotten worse.

highest_cubist_thrills

what happened to the fsf and what happened to iraq--

highest_cubist_thrills

they were predictable

highest_cubist_thrills

they were predicted.

highest_cubist_thrills

they worked out similarly

highest_cubist_thrills

iraq is even worse now

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> I try to be optimistic about humanity

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf is even worse now

highest_cubist_thrills

the whole thing was based on lies.

highest_cubist_thrills

it was incredibly savage

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf censored supporters

DaemonFC

That's nice. Arsonists, dog fuckers, mother fuckers, father fuckers, kiddie fuckers, murderers, looters, muggers......

highest_cubist_thrills

the usa government censored-- even fired on journalists.

DaemonFC

And you have faith in humanity.

highest_cubist_thrills

tanks fired at a hotel with journalists in it.

DaemonFC

Cool beans, bro!

DaemonFC

Tell it walking.

highest_cubist_thrills

why?

highest_cubist_thrills

this is just imperialism

highest_cubist_thrills

imperialists can use people-- suckers-- patsies--

highest_cubist_thrills

people who think theyre fighting the good fight

highest_cubist_thrills

that dont know (or dont care) what theyre destroying

highest_cubist_thrills

what theyre doing

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highest_cubist_thrills

same thing happened in iraq and the fsf

highest_cubist_thrills

imperial takeover

highest_cubist_thrills

lies

highest_cubist_thrills

bullshit

highest_cubist_thrills

predictable, needless destruction

highest_cubist_thrills

the corporations will cry all the way to the bank

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm can keep building their empire unmitigated by any free software movement

highest_cubist_thrills

they can exploit gcc as much as they want

highest_cubist_thrills

for them, not for us

DaemonFC

mjg59_, The best thing about humans is what kills the good guys kills the bad guys.

highest_cubist_thrills

gnu can fall apart.

highest_cubist_thrills

it will.

DaemonFC

So saddle up. Lock and load!

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm doesnt care

highest_cubist_thrills

microsoft IS ibm.

highest_cubist_thrills

the free software movement was destroyed by imperialist nazis

highest_cubist_thrills

" We, maintainers and contributors of well-known free software projects, are making this place our new home, fighting for the freedom of computer users and hacking the good hack."

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah,

highest_cubist_thrills

support the troops!

DaemonFC

There's no hope for humans.

schestowitz[TR]

<DaemonFC> <mjg59_> I try to be optimistic about humanity

highest_cubist_thrills

its all bullshit.

schestowitz[TR]

then stop harassing it

DaemonFC

mjg59_ calls this world progress. 70 years ago, a serial killer anywhere in America was front page news.

highest_cubist_thrills

<schestowitz[TR]> then stop harassing it <- i dont know who youre addressing or what you mean

schestowitz[TR]

fight crime, not people who fight against crime

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: bad timing

highest_cubist_thrills

doesnt matter

schestowitz[TR]

due to overlapping voices

highest_cubist_thrills

alas, irc

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

brb

schestowitz[TR]

readjusting here

schestowitz[TR]

trying a new method of making more videos per day, 3-5

schestowitz[TR]

irc is lovely though

highest_cubist_thrills

fsvo lovely

schestowitz[TR]

it's just that I totally lost my train of thought earlier while writing an article

DaemonFC

Now there's poverty, crime, corruption. All kinds of insanity breaking out. People are really fucking dumb and it's all around you. And mjg59_ is glad because at least nobody cares about a man with a fake cooch anymore.

schestowitz[TR]

irc is for all ages.. of PCs

highest_cubist_thrills

better than dicksword

schestowitz[TR]

Mark ( cubexyz ) still uses PCs from the 1990s

http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/

schestowitz[TR]

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DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I saw some Mormons at Taco Bell earlier. It was nice to see some respectful young men wearing suits and not tatted up for a change.

DaemonFC

They have their work cut out for them in Waukegan.

schestowitz[TR]

mormons are not the worst

schestowitz[TR]

they are well educated

schestowitz[TR]

they score highly in the usa

schestowitz[TR]

exams, sats, etc.

schestowitz[TR]

maybe mormonsss worked at novell

highest_cubist_thrills

they invented javascript

schestowitz[TR]

it's a mormon company

schestowitz[TR]

i think noorda too was a mormon

schestowitz[TR]

ah, yyyou said eich was mormon iirc

schestowitz[TR]

which I did not know

highest_cubist_thrills

he is mormon

highest_cubist_thrills

thats how he got himself cancelled

schestowitz[TR]

eich seems to fancy techrights on some issues

schestowitz[TR]

which is not a badge of hoinnour

schestowitz[TR]

but it was related to tech rights, not politics

DaemonFC

The Mormon church is backpeddling on their anti-LGBT stance quite a bit.

DaemonFC

Takes time for things to change.

schestowitz[TR]

and black priests

schestowitz[TR]

like I said, mormoms are not the worst

schestowitz[TR]

I refused to bash novell over it

schestowitz[TR]

mormons are not the worst

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah for years they woudlnt allow blacks to become priests

schestowitz[TR]

they make good families

schestowitz[TR]

maybe too large

highest_cubist_thrills

they said black skin was a curse from god

schestowitz[TR]

and educate them well;

DaemonFC

Well, at least mjg59_ won't reproduce.

schestowitz[TR]

aaamish are also not too bad

schestowitz[TR]

need to restart barrier

schestowitz[TR]

typing issues

highest_cubist_thrills

amish are a mixed bag

DaemonFC

He's not with a "people who get pregnant".

highest_cubist_thrills

they act like a cult

highest_cubist_thrills

they use some cult practices

highest_cubist_thrills

but hey, so do the fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

the new one

DaemonFC

Hmm, I wonder if there's anything I can use to doctor up that cabbage casserole with tomorrow.

Sep 25 08:58

DaemonFC

It wasn't bad, it just needed something.

Sep 25 08:58

highest_cubist_thrills

i defend, in a very general way

highest_cubist_thrills

both religious beliefs, and religious practices

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highest_cubist_thrills

across most or perhaps all of the religious spectrum

highest_cubist_thrills

with caveats

DaemonFC

I might add some italian seasoning to it next time.

highest_cubist_thrills

religions are used to control people

DaemonFC

Or mix some in and nuke the leftovers.

schestowitz[TR]

<DaemonFC> Well, at least mjg59_ won't reproduce.

highest_cubist_thrills

im against most of that control

schestowitz[TR]

but needs 6-figure salaries lol

highest_cubist_thrills

some people will say any belief is control

schestowitz[TR]

to pay lawyers to terrify my wife

schestowitz[TR]

through the post

highest_cubist_thrills

so the atheism becomes law-- like that isnt control

DaemonFC

mjg59_ will have a legacy. One day he'll die and he'll have made the world no better. And he won't have even produced an heir to leave anything to.

highest_cubist_thrills

just let people have their beliefs

DaemonFC

That's why he hates Stallman so much.

DaemonFC

Stallman has a legacy and will be remembered well.

highest_cubist_thrills

then if they torture each other, or do other horrible things-- go after those things

DaemonFC

mjg59_ not so much.

highest_cubist_thrills

not the "silly" beliefs they have, which dont matter

highest_cubist_thrills

reason being, everyone has silly beliefs

highest_cubist_thrills

some are religious, some arent

highest_cubist_thrills

what really matters is what people do with those beliefs

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], You can pay a lawyer to do anything. They'll take your money and then laugh at you when you leave their office.

highest_cubist_thrills

amish shun-- this is collective torture

DaemonFC

Like MARISOL.

highest_cubist_thrills

mormons do the same

highest_cubist_thrills

mormons push incredible homophobia, but so did society in general just a few decades ago

highest_cubist_thrills

(it doesnt as much as it used to)

highest_cubist_thrills

the homophobia is a real problem

highest_cubist_thrills

beheading mozilla didnt really change that

highest_cubist_thrills

mormons should be criticised for the homophobia

Sep 25 09:04

highest_cubist_thrills

corporations discriminating against religions give them more power than i think we went them to have

Sep 25 09:04

highest_cubist_thrills

if eich acted homophobic at work thats a workplace problem

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highest_cubist_thrills

if he funded an organisation that was homophobic, i mean

highest_cubist_thrills

mormons tithe 10% of their income

highest_cubist_thrills

the lds church is literally a corporation

highest_cubist_thrills

i think its a tax free corporation

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highest_cubist_thrills

so the amount that eich gave to some stupid group is NOTHING compared to what he gives the church

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DaemonFC

GNU Icecat got updated to 102.3 in Fedora.

highest_cubist_thrills

the church itself is a homophobic organisation

highest_cubist_thrills

but

highest_cubist_thrills

do you want corporations firing people based on what church they go to

highest_cubist_thrills

that would be a horrible precident

highest_cubist_thrills

no, so we go after the MUCH smaller donation to the MUCH smaller organisation

highest_cubist_thrills

what. bullshit.

highest_cubist_thrills

it was just an excuse to put a fraud in charge

highest_cubist_thrills

and kick out the only person that gave a shit about mozilla and its users.

highest_cubist_thrills

same thing happened at the fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

only this time it wasnt even about the actual person

highest_cubist_thrills

it was about the made up version of that person.

highest_cubist_thrills

made up stallman is a bad bad bad man

highest_cubist_thrills

lets get him

highest_cubist_thrills

hey, theres he is!

highest_cubist_thrills

wait, thats actual stallman, not the one you made u--

highest_cubist_thrills

who cares! seize him!

highest_cubist_thrills

oh well

highest_cubist_thrills

fsf will die like mozilla did.

highest_cubist_thrills

fsf is run by its treasurer

highest_cubist_thrills

mozilla is also run by its treasurer

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean

highest_cubist_thrills

shes gets all the money

highest_cubist_thrills

doesnt that make her the de facto treasurer

highest_cubist_thrills

these organsiations arent about their causes anymore

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre only about money

highest_cubist_thrills

it makes perfect sense to put the treasurer at the heml

highest_cubist_thrills

helm-- theyre the only person the entire org

highest_cubist_thrills

actually doing what it now exists to do!

highest_cubist_thrills

move money around

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm is only about money

highest_cubist_thrills

microsoft is only about money

highest_cubist_thrills

now mozilla and fsf are only about money

highest_cubist_thrills

open source-- only about money

highest_cubist_thrills

what freedom?

highest_cubist_thrills

the freedom to be forced to run systemd

highest_cubist_thrills

stallman isnt qualified to say anything

highest_cubist_thrills

he said so himself

highest_cubist_thrills

its a fully free distro

highest_cubist_thrills

the license proves it

highest_cubist_thrills

who controls the project

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm and microsoft

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highest_cubist_thrills

its free, trust us

highest_cubist_thrills

mono/linux

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schestowitz[TR]

oh, btw, we mostly defeated mono

highest_cubist_thrills

but since gnu is in the public domain now

schestowitz[TR]

many people aid it would not happen

schestowitz[TR]

and was not possible

schestowitz[TR]

too late

schestowitz[TR]

etc

schestowitz[TR]

mono was gradually removed from more things

schestowitz[TR]

eventually fedora also

schestowitz[TR]

it can still creep in

highest_cubist_thrills

there was an actual boycott of mono.

schestowitz[TR]

but mono is a tiny niche now

schestowitz[TR]

and its founder left microsoft

schestowitz[TR]

yes, big boycott

schestowitz[TR]

we led the boycott at the time

schestowitz[TR]

it was a novell product

highest_cubist_thrills

wheres the big boycott of ibm and/or systemd

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schestowitz[TR]

we don't boycott icbm

schestowitz[TR]

but condemn them a lot

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm is destroying gnu

schestowitz[TR]

same for red hat

highest_cubist_thrills

more than mono was a threat to free software

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah

schestowitz[TR]

because icbm is defaming the freesw community

schestowitz[TR]

and we then react

highest_cubist_thrills

you dont boycott them.

schestowitz[TR]

by showing their hypocrisy

schestowitz[TR]

which we did even proactively

schestowitz[TR]

in 2020 I wrote a lot about their past

highest_cubist_thrills

youre letting gnu die.

schestowitz[TR]

as it would turn out to be handy the following year

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills

yes.

schestowitz[TR]

zoe lets it die

schestowitz[TR]

i do what I can

highest_cubist_thrills

you let zoe let it die.

schestowitz[TR]

zoe goes along with it

schestowitz[TR]

"can't code, has blond hair"

schestowitz[TR]

but I nlike her

schestowitz[TR]

she is a good lead/head

schestowitz[TR]

for fsf

highest_cubist_thrills

shes useless to me.

schestowitz[TR]

it's just that she won't fight

schestowitz[TR]

she dubs the videos

schestowitz[TR]

of gnu and fsf

schestowitz[TR]

and she is polite

schestowitz[TR]

but too polite

highest_cubist_thrills

| she is a good lead/head <- which is it

schestowitz[TR]

too diplomatic

schestowitz[TR]

not revolutionary

highest_cubist_thrills

zoe lets it die

schestowitz[TR]

even greg is more revolutionary

highest_cubist_thrills

| she is a good lead/head <- which is it

highest_cubist_thrills

fucking hell

schestowitz[TR]

she is good pr

schestowitz[TR]

but good pr is for sponsors

schestowitz[TR]

not for a revolution

highest_cubist_thrills

zoe lets it die | she is a good lead/head <- which is it

schestowitz[TR]

libera.chat likes her

highest_cubist_thrills

it woudlnt paste.

highest_cubist_thrills

libera.chat likes her

schestowitz[TR]

and some people ther edislike rms

highest_cubist_thrills

<- theyre anti stallman

schestowitz[TR]

some are

schestowitz[TR]

not all

highest_cubist_thrills

they banned people for being pro rms.

schestowitz[TR]

yeah

schestowitz[TR]

some

highest_cubist_thrills

/me shakes his head

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DaemonFC

I might review GNU Icecat tomorrow.

DaemonFC

Fedora just bumped it to 102.3

DaemonFC

It tracks Firefox ESR.

highest_cubist_thrills

stalin: dont stop the invasion! you might provoke them!

techrights-news

"Any way I took it myself to analyse the situation and have finally come to the conclusion that we may be looking at the "problem"..." ☛ http://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/09/perls-before-splines.html | Source: Perl

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Casting Perls before Splines | Saif [blogs.perl.org]

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also stalin: kills everyone who might be able to strategise

techrights-news

"It was only after lunch did I realize that none of us had to write a program. No, all it would have taken was running: [...]" ☛ http://boston.conman.org//2022/08/31.1 |

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boston.conman.org | We could have skipped writing a program - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm

highest_cubist_thrills

join us and help us stand down for your freedom!

techrights-news

"But on another level, this is concerning. Even though Microsoft announced this three years ago" ☛ http://boston.conman.org//2022/09/22.1 |

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boston.conman.org | So when did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?” - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm

highest_cubist_thrills

fraud.

techrights-news

[Old] "first: set email type to plaintext-only. this email account will only ever send or receive text." ☛ https://j3s.sh/thought/there-is-beauty-in-the-minimalism-of-email.html |

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-j3s.sh | jes post

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 09:20

highest_cubist_thrills

all of this is masturbatory

Sep 25 09:22

highest_cubist_thrills

join us and help us fap for your freedom

Sep 25 09:22

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre only making a mess

Sep 25 09:23

techrights-news

"Today, MathB.in is the oldest mathematics pastebin that is still alive and serving its community of users" ☛ https://susam.net/blog/mathbin-turns-10.html | Source: SusamPal

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-susam.net | MathB.in Turns 10 - Susam Pal

highest_cubist_thrills

not for a revolution <- good pr is doing nothing for freedom

techrights-news

"If you’ve been involved in Mission Zero before, you will notice lots of things have changed." ☛ https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/09/23/astro-pi-mission-zero-2022-23-is-open-piday-raspberrypi-raspberry_pi/ | Source: Adafruit

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com | Astro Pi Mission Zero 2022/23 is Open #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre just covering up the fact that they have nothing left to fight with

highest_cubist_thrills

thats all "good pr" is doing

highest_cubist_thrills

lying the good lie.

techrights-news

"This crystalized during a 1948 expedition to Pennsylvania’s Conestoga River—a body of water heavily polluted by sewage and industrial runoff." ☛ https://www.wired.com/story/philadelphias-diatom-archive-is-a-way-way-wayback-machine/ | Source: Wired

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Philadelphia’s Diatom Archive Is a Way, Way, Wayback Machine | WIRED

highest_cubist_thrills

zoe is a good liar.

highest_cubist_thrills

a good bullshitter.

highest_cubist_thrills

shes good at getting people to ignore the reality of the situation.

Sep 25 09:26

highest_cubist_thrills

lie-bera.chat likes her

Sep 25 09:26

highest_cubist_thrills

who cares

Sep 25 09:26

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont blame zoe for the state of the fsf

highest_cubist_thrills

it was already destroyed when she got her position

highest_cubist_thrills

shes useless.

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf is also useless.

highest_cubist_thrills

useless + useless = useless

highest_cubist_thrills

you like her

highest_cubist_thrills

so what?

highest_cubist_thrills

that has nothing to do with the fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

who fights for our freedom?

highest_cubist_thrills

no one.

techrights-news

"First things first, what do we mean by “nothing”? A first attempt to define nothing is to look at how we use the word in everyday language." ☛ http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/09/what-is-nothing.html | Source: Sabine Hossenfelder

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-backreaction.blogspot.com | Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: What is "Nothing"?

highest_cubist_thrills

but we like them anyway-- so what?

highest_cubist_thrills

that has nothing to do with anything.

highest_cubist_thrills

not for a revolution <- who is good for a revolution?

highest_cubist_thrills

no one.

schestowitz[TR]

zoe responded to the toolchain coup recently

highest_cubist_thrills

who is good for our freedom?

highest_cubist_thrills

n one

highest_cubist_thrills

zoe responded to the toolchain coup recently <- with good pr?

schestowitz[TR]

was phrased a lot more bureaucratically than rms

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doesnt matter

schestowitz[TR]

and sent by greg

schestowitz[TR]

first as html email

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then as plain text

highest_cubist_thrills

was phrased a lot more bureaucratically than rms <- so shes watering down things

schestowitz[TR]

not sure why fsf would send a web page as 'email

schestowitz[TR]

but they corrected it as the archive could not process it properly

highest_cubist_thrills

they already decided not to pursue

highest_cubist_thrills

so anything they say is just posturing.

highest_cubist_thrills

thats still just pr.

highest_cubist_thrills

at least a real rms version would contain a point.

highest_cubist_thrills

but hes exiled in place

highest_cubist_thrills

maybe greg will let him out-- no he wont

highest_cubist_thrills

who from the fsf signed the support letter?

highest_cubist_thrills

the current fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

not the people who have no bearing on any of this.

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sfc-mark.png

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

sept. 16th

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zoe

https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018847.html

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceware.org | Sourceware / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron

schestowitz[TR]

"The message was accidentally not plain text, I'm replying just to make a

schestowitz[TR]

plain text version so it is readable in the archive:"

schestowitz[TR]

sent via Ian Kelling

schestowitz[TR]

(board)

schestowitz[TR]

not greg

https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceware.org | Sourceware / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron

https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018842.html

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceware.org | Sourceware / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron

schestowitz[TR]

zoe sent a web page

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as email

schestowitz[TR]

cannot see headers

schestowitz[TR]

wonder what software was used to sent mail

schestowitz[TR]

cannot see msg-id either

Sep 25 09:34

highest_cubist_thrills

new ways to support the sourceware project

Sep 25 09:34

highest_cubist_thrills

again-- this is mark wielard (coup) saying they want ibm to have more support (slave labour)

highest_cubist_thrills

so ibm can have more control of gnu

schestowitz[TR]

so-called 'mmmmmmmeeeediaaa!"

schestowitz[TR]

too busy covering WSL shit

schestowitz[TR]

and not what goes on there at GNU

schestowitz[TR]

which is profound

techrights-news

"Lapine made this unnerving discovery by using Have I Been Trained" ☛ https://futurism.com/the-byte/private-medical-photos-ai | Source: Futurism

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Woman Horrified To Discover Her Private Medical Photos Were Being Used To Train AI

highest_cubist_thrills

nazi takeover of fsf

highest_cubist_thrills

nazi takeover of gnu

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dont stop the invasion-- you might provoke them

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sjw: look, we only go after stallman

schestowitz[TR]

gnu->gus

highest_cubist_thrills

youre on your own with the nazis!

highest_cubist_thrills

bullshit reigns

techrights-news

Proprietary ☛ https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/uber-hack-linked-to-hardcoded-secrets-spotted-in-powershell-script | Source: Port Swigger

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Uber hack linked to hardcoded secrets spotted in PowerShell script | The Daily Swig

highest_cubist_thrills

fsf-iraq, ibm/halliburton platinum sponsor

highest_cubist_thrills

ibm gcc

techrights-news

"today’s homily is a rebuke to all those sinners who have decided to abandon the correct path of reverse proxies" ☛ https://adepts.of0x.cc/novnc-phishing/ | Source: Of0x

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adepts.of0x.cc | Thoughts on the use of noVNC for phishing campaigns - Adepts of 0xCC

highest_cubist_thrills

ms-fsf

highest_cubist_thrills

open source gnu.fools

highest_cubist_thrills

bullshit reigns

techrights-news

When classrooms become Gulags ☛ https://www.wired.com/story/denmark-google-schools-data/ | Source: Wired

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Danish City Built Google Into Its Schools—Then Banned It | WIRED

techrights-news

"Today, I turn on Satan's replacement, Belial, the annoying Mac Laptop." ☛ http://boston.conman.org//2022/09/21.1 |

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boston.conman.org | Just how much telemetry does The Enterprise need from my work laptop? - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm

highest_cubist_thrills

all of this is fraud

Sep 25 09:40

techrights-news

"That algorithm shapes the information billions of people consume, and Gulag YouTube has controls that purport to allow people to adjust what it shows them. " ☛ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/09/20/1059709/youtube-algorithm-recommendations/ | Source: MIT Technology Review

Sep 25 09:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | YouTube's recommendation algorithm is unresponsive to user feedback, according to Mozilla | MIT Technology Review

Sep 25 09:40

highest_cubist_thrills

its like project paperclip in reverse

techrights-news

Microsoft concentration camp in "social" clothing ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/24/business/linkedin-social-experiments.html | Source: New York Times

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | LinkedIn Ran Social Experiments on 20 Million Users Over Five Years - The New York Times

highest_cubist_thrills

project paperclip: get all the expertise we can from the nazis, build shit

highest_cubist_thrills

project sourceware: build all the shit you can, give it to the nazis

techrights-news

"An evangelical Southern Baptist church known as Gracepoint was caught relying on a little more than God’s watchful gaze" ☛ https://futurism.com/the-byte/churches-shameware-apps | Source: Futurism

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Churches Using "Shameware" Apps to Make Sure Members Don't Watch Porn

techrights-news

"Covenant Eyes is part of a multimillion-dollar ecosystem of so-called accountability apps" ☛ https://www.wired.com/story/covenant-eyes-anti-porn-accountability-monitoring-apps/ | Source: Wired

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Ungodly Surveillance of Anti-Porn ‘Shameware’ Apps | WIRED

highest_cubist_thrills

i hope bradley kuhn is proud to be a member of the fourth reich

techrights-news

"Databases are tools to store information in an organized but flexible way." ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/9/drop-your-database-for-postgresql | Source: OpenSource.com

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drop your database for PostgreSQL | Opensource.com

highest_cubist_thrills

all these people work for ibm

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre all frauds

techrights-news

Pentium LOL! In 2022... use ARM instead ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/mini-pc-enabled-by-pentium-n6415-processor-dual-gbe-ports-and-wi-fi-6e/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

Sep 25 09:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/mini-pc-enabled-by-pentium-n6415-processor-dual-gbe-ports-and-wi-fi-6e/ )

Sep 25 09:43

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: "well, he'd dead"

Sep 25 09:43

schestowitz[TR]

"I can haz hiz tooth fillingz?"

highest_cubist_thrills

stallman will sweep up the ashes

highest_cubist_thrills

its what the sonderkommanden do.

techrights-news

"Most often, you are looking for a file on Linux and you do not exactly know its true location on the system disk." ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/find-files-by-name/ | Source: Linux Handbook

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Find Files by Name in Linux [5 Frequent Use Cases]

techrights-news

Funny Programming Pictures Part XVI - by Bryan Lunduke ⚓ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/funny-programming-pictures-part-xvi ䷉ Source: Bryan Lunduke

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | Funny Programming Pictures Part XVI - by Bryan Lunduke

techrights-news

Rubenerd: Software engagement versus utility ⚓ https://rubenerd.com/software-engagement-versus-utility/ ䷉ Source: Ruben Schade | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//rubenerd.com/software-engagement-versus-utility/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Software engagement versus utility

"Dr. Bombay" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230922.html#tSep%2023%2008:33:15 https://youtu.be/Ropn_kwpFDU https://youtu.be/fKtNawQ3cxM

techrights-news

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 23, 2022

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Ropn_kwpFDU

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Ropn_kwpFDU )

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=fKtNawQ3cxM

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | DR BOMBAY "Rice & Curry" - Invidious

techrights-news

windows tco https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10021053

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-svenska-yle-fi.translate.goog | För få kunniga inom datasäkerhet i Finland – utbildningarna motsvarar inte arbetslivets krav – Inrikes – svenska.yle.fi

techrights-news

old: windows tco https://legalserviceindia.com/legal/article-3210-cyber-crime-a-hindrance-in-digital-world.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-legalserviceindia.com | Cyber Crime - A Hindrance In Digital World

techrights-news

analyticsindiamag coninues to mostly issue Microsoft propaganda and outright spam https://analyticsindiamag.com/github-repositories-that-will-change-the-way-you-learn-web3-and-blockchain/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | Github Repositories that Will Change the Way You Learn Web3 and Blockchain

techrights-news

Filipino survivors of martial law still haunted by abuses 50 years after declaration | CBC Radio ⚓ https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/survivors-martial-law-philippines-abuses-50-years-later-1.6592042 ䷉ Source: CBC | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/survivors-martial-law-philippines-abuses-50-years-later-1.6592042

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | Filipino survivors of martial law still haunted by abuses 50 years after declaration | CBC Radio

techrights-news

old: Why I Switched to Linux ⚓ https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/why-i-switched-to-linux:3

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Why I Switched to Linux

techrights-news

Gulag YouTUbe = censorship https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/wth-youtube-queen-wiciwici-may-be-after:2

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | WTH YouTube? | Queen Wiciwici may be after me again!

highest_cubist_thrills

herr kuhn, herr sandler, herr wielaard, herr wingo

schestowitz[TR]

hmmm..

schestowitz[TR]

well..

schestowitz[TR]

he first two would find it ofensive to the extreme

highest_cubist_thrills

whats female for herr? not fraulein

highest_cubist_thrills

the first two should stop working for nazis

highest_cubist_thrills

the second two should also stop working for nazis

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont give a fuck.

schestowitz[TR]

so you call them kappo?

highest_cubist_thrills

my family escaped germany. if anything they should apologise to me.

schestowitz[TR]

they censored irc

schestowitz[TR]

against IBBBM critics

highest_cubist_thrills

so you call them kappo? <- why pull punches?

schestowitz[TR]

Edwin Deny would object

highest_cubist_thrills

i invite him to do so.

highest_cubist_thrills

i will take it under advisement.

highest_cubist_thrills

these are the worst hypocrites in the world

techrights-news

indonesia https://odysee.com/@SomeOrdinaryGamers:a/a-hacker-is-taking-down-indonesia...:9

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | A Hacker Is Taking Down Indonesia...

techrights-news

Attacks on RMS https://j3s.sh/thought/drones-run-linux-free-software-isnt-enough.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-j3s.sh | jes post

highest_cubist_thrills

i have no sympathy for jews who work for the orchestrators of the holocaust

highest_cubist_thrills

they are traitors.

highest_cubist_thrills

they are not slaves.

techrights-news

San Francisco Police Can Now Watch Private Surveillance Cameras in Real Time - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/23/1824249 ䷉ Source: Soylent News | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/23/1824249

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | San Francisco Police Can Now Watch Private Surveillance Cameras in Real Time - SoylentNews

highest_cubist_thrills

they are willful backstabbers of humanity and their own people.

highest_cubist_thrills

they might as well wear armbands and say heil hitler.

highest_cubist_thrills

fuck them.

highest_cubist_thrills

theyre no better than herr sixel.

highest_cubist_thrills

how do you know he isnt jewish?

highest_cubist_thrills

how does he?

highest_cubist_thrills

would i care if he was? fuck no.

highest_cubist_thrills

THEY DONT CARE.

Sep 25 09:55

highest_cubist_thrills

they gleefully betray everyone on behalf of literal nazis.

Sep 25 09:55

techrights-news

College Debt ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/24/college-debt-tip-iceberg | Source: Common Dreams

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | College Debt is the Tip of the Iceberg | Phil Wilson

highest_cubist_thrills

that level of hypocrisy demands the highest condemnation and criticism.

highest_cubist_thrills

but you always pull your punches

highest_cubist_thrills

so you can suck up to them later

schestowitz[TR]

to who?

schestowitz[TR]

bkuhn?

schestowitz[TR]

we've not gotten along since 2010 or earlier

highest_cubist_thrills

in general.

schestowitz[TR]

karen was not in sfc back then

schestowitz[TR]

there was barely such a thing

schestowitz[TR]

and she was in gnome and other things

schestowitz[TR]

now yet rolling in the "dough"

techrights-news

Lower-Income Families ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/24/its-lower-income-families-who-will-be-hit-hardest-fed-rate-hikes | Source: Common Dreams

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | It's Lower-Income Families Who Will Be Hit Hardest by Fed Rate Hikes | Dean Baker

highest_cubist_thrills

today we split hairs

highest_cubist_thrills

tomorrow we do nothing

highest_cubist_thrills

the two are not unrelated

schestowitz[TR]

hey, TR did the most about it

schestowitz[TR]

more thasn the FSF itself even

schestowitz[TR]

we were never passive

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont agree

highest_cubist_thrills

particularly with the last line

schestowitz[TR]

to ttthe point of getting whistlebloweeers

highest_cubist_thrills

but also with the rest

schestowitz[TR]

barrier acting up again

highest_cubist_thrills

more thasn the FSF itself even <- i mean

techrights-news

Software Patents ☛ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/09/23/meta-ordered-to-pay-walkie-talkie-live-streaming-patents/ | Source: Digital Music News

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/09/23/meta-ordered-to-pay-walkie-talkie-live-streaming-patents/ )

highest_cubist_thrills

that just means more than nothing

highest_cubist_thrills

literally anything passes that mark

highest_cubist_thrills

the fsf just rolled over and died

techrights-news

Internet: "In this series, I’m going to discuss different reasons for these kinds of policies, and different ways to implement them in interdomain BGP." ☛ https://blog.apnic.net/2022/09/23/interdomain-bgp-policies-where-traffic-should-exit-a-network/ | Source: APNIC

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.apnic.net | Interdomain BGP policies — where traffic should exit a network | APNIC Blog

highest_cubist_thrills

join us and help us roll over and die for nothing

techrights-news

"Russia’s propaganda is not monolithic. Instead, as it does in the West, it seeks to exploit existing divisions and tensions" ☛ https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/22/how-russia-is-trying-to-win-over-the-global-south | Source: The Economist

Sep 25 10:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Russia is trying to win over the global south | The Economist

Sep 25 10:01

techrights-news

"The group, formed in 2001, has quickly become one of the most important forces in global politics" ☛ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/09/22/1059823/cold-war-authoritarian-tech-china-iran-sco/ | Source: MIT Technology Review

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | The world is moving closer to a new cold war fought with authoritarian tech | MIT Technology Review

techrights-news

"When a demo of the software was released in late August, users quickly found that certain words—both explicit mentions of political leaders" ☛ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/09/14/1059481/baidu-chinese-image-ai-tiananmen/ | Source: MIT Technology Review

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | No Tiananmen Square in ERNIE-ViLG, the new Chinese image-making AI | MIT Technology Review

techrights-news

"Bolgla's store, Atlanta Vintage Books, is one of hundreds of independent bookstores across the country that have celebrated the freedom" ☛ https://text.npr.org/1124771875 | Source: NPR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | How independent bookstores help in the fight against book banning and why it matters

techrights-news

"According to Russian digital rights NGO Roskomsvoboda, Veronika Loginova is the first individual to be prosecuted" ☛ https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxnza4/veronika-loginova-instagram-russia | Source: Vice

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Russian Influencer Says She Faces 6 Years in Prison for Using Instagram

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/wget-dev/2022-09/msg00007.html

techrights-news

"Aucklander Matt Ó Branáin has inspired a historic demonstration in London on October 8th, to free jailed Australian journalist Julian Assange." ☛ https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2209/S00170/aucklander-inspires-demonstration-around-british-parliament-to-free-julian-assange-october-8th.htm | Source: Scoop Media

Sep 25 10:05

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scoop.co.nz | Aucklander Inspires Demonstration Around British Parliament To Free Julian Assange, October 8th | Scoop News

Sep 25 10:05

highest_cubist_thrills

Sep 25 10:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Why GNUnet prefers curl over wget2

Sep 25 10:11

highest_cubist_thrills

microsoft gnunet

Sep 25 10:11

highest_cubist_thrills

"charting the course"

Sep 25 10:17

highest_cubist_thrills

more like gauging the fall

Sep 25 10:17

highest_cubist_thrills

US government employee? Use CFC charity code 63210 to support us through

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"at least three of them women" ☛ https://www.voanews.com/a/journalists-arrested-in-iran-warned-about-protest-coverage/6760774.html | Source: VOA News

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Journalists Arrested in Iran, Warned About Protest Coverage

highest_cubist_thrills

after ibm finishes taking over the whole thing can just be funded by darpa

highest_cubist_thrills

yeah its not called that anymore

highest_cubist_thrills

but since everything has gone backwards 40 years, why not

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Conservative MPs call for freelance journalist to be booted from press gallery after tweet ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/genuis-dale-smith-lame-horse-tweet-1.6591666 | Source: CBC

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | Conservative MPs call for freelance journalist to be booted from press gallery after tweet | CBC News

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"background to the proceedings were Önver's Twitter posts, the content of which dealt with crimes against Kurds" ☛ https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/prison-sentence-for-jinnews-reporter-for-terror-propaganda-62658 | Source: ANF News

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anfenglishmobile.com | ANF | Prison sentence for JinNews reporter for “terror propaganda"

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"Journalist Nilufar Hamedi has been imprisoned in the Iranian capital" ☛ https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/journalist-arrested-in-iran-after-reporting-on-amini-s-death-62659 | Source: ANF News

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anfenglishmobile.com | ANF | Journalist arrested in Iran after reporting on Amini's death

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-09/msg00001.html

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techrights-ipfs-bot

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Free Software Awards: It's nomination time now until November 30

highest_cubist_thrills

i nominate hitler

highest_cubist_thrills

after all, without hitler, sourceware wouldnt be able to take over the fsf.

highest_cubist_thrills

besides

highest_cubist_thrills

after seeing the people who have won free software awards

highest_cubist_thrills

hes in good company

schestowitz[TR]

won when?

schestowitz[TR]

after 2005?

highest_cubist_thrills

whenever

highest_cubist_thrills

maybe a nobel peace prize too

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean, its equally farcical

techrights-news

"Eve Ottenberg examines how corporations continue to find ways to screw their workers" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/24/class-warfare-grinds-on/ | Source: Scheerpost

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Class Warfare Grinds On – scheerpost.com

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Military Whistleblower ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/24/military-whistleblower-challenges-pentagons-warrantless-purchase-of-internet-data/ | Source: Scheerpost

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Military Whistleblower Challenges Pentagon’s Warrantless Purchase of Internet Data – scheerpost.com

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www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-awards-nominate-those-who-have-charted-a-course-to-freedom-by-november-30

highest_cubist_thrills

well, thats no one

highest_cubist_thrills

there is no course left to freedom.

highest_cubist_thrills

its a stupid and loaded question

Sep 25 10:23

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CMOS ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/24/cmos-oscillator-circuit-gets-an-eatable-input/ | Source: Hackaday

Sep 25 10:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CMOS Oscillator Circuit Gets An Eatable Input | Hackaday

Sep 25 10:23

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We are proud to announce the fifteenth edition of the Free Software Foundation's (FSF) conference on ethical technology and user freedom

Sep 25 10:24

highest_cubist_thrills

ethical technology and user freedom <- not really

Sep 25 10:24

highest_cubist_thrills

users arent free, technology isnt ethical.

Sep 25 10:24

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Tic Tac Toe Business Card ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/24/minimal-tic-tac-toe-business-card/ | Source: Hackaday

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Minimal Tic Tac Toe Business Card | Hackaday

highest_cubist_thrills

but thats lieplanet for you

highest_cubist_thrills

sharting a course to serfdom

schestowitz[TR]

what talks in the last libreplanet did you object to?

highest_cubist_thrills

all of them.

highest_cubist_thrills

the whole thing is a farce

highest_cubist_thrills

every talk undermined free software.

Sep 25 10:26

highest_cubist_thrills

there was one that was the least horrible

Sep 25 10:26

highest_cubist_thrills

this is sort of inevitable

Sep 25 10:26

highest_cubist_thrills

one talk actually equated free software and open source

Sep 25 10:27

highest_cubist_thrills

even the lieplanet page says its not open source.

Sep 25 10:27

highest_cubist_thrills

of course its not entirely untrue

Sep 25 10:28

highest_cubist_thrills

free software is dead, and open source sometimes calls itself free software now.

Sep 25 10:28

highest_cubist_thrills

so yeah, what to do.

Sep 25 10:28

techrights-news

"Long before the Covid pandemic, it was important to ask, where are the mass movements to enact in Congress majoritarian-supported changes and reforms?" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/24/where-mass-mobilized-movement-medicare-all | Source: Common Dreams

Sep 25 10:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Where Is the Mass Mobilized Movement for Medicare for All? | Ralph Nader

Sep 25 10:29

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"pandemic and widespread economic pain" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/24/direct-cash-transfers-lifted-28-million-americans-out-poverty-during-pandemic | Source: Common Dreams

Sep 25 10:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Direct Cash Transfers Lifted 28 Million Americans Out of Poverty During Pandemic | Shailly Gupta Barnes

Sep 25 10:30

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highest_cubist_thrills

has esr burst like the senator in the x-men movie yet, or been hauled off to gitmo?

Sep 25 10:33

techrights-news

"Mitchell Beer records experts responses to the recent sale of the outdoor retail giant" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/24/the-hidden-downside-for-democracy-in-the-patagonia-sale/ | Source: Scheerpost

Sep 25 10:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Hidden Downside for Democracy in the Patagonia Sale – scheerpost.com

Sep 25 10:34

highest_cubist_thrills

has he taken all his guns to south america like mcaffee?

Sep 25 10:36

techrights-news

WikiLeaks ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/24/the-israel-files-wikileaks-docs-show-top-hollywood-producers-working-with-israel-to-defend-its-war-crimes/ | Source: Scheerpost

Sep 25 10:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Israel Files: WikiLeaks Docs Show Top Hollywood Producers Working With Israel To Defend Its War Crimes – scheerpost.com

Sep 25 10:37

mjg59_

esr had cancer, apparently

mjg59_

He was supposed to give a couple of talks at SELF, I don't know if that happened

techrights-news

"Visitors at the Garden D’Lights in Bellevue, Washington had a problem. While touring the holiday lights show, they kept straying off the path." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/24/animated-led-arrows-point-the-way/ | Source: Hackaday

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Animated LED Arrows Point The Way | Hackaday

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"Chief U.S. District Judge Shelly Dick ruled that the Office of Juvenile Justice (OJJ) can send two dozen children under the age of 18 from Bridge City Center for Youth, located outside New Orleans, to the Louisiana State Penitentiary" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/24/federal-judge-allows-untenable-plan-send-juvenile-inmates-angola-prison | Source: Common Dreams

Sep 25 10:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Federal Judge Allows 'Untenable' Plan to Send Juvenile Inmates to Angola Prison

Sep 25 10:41

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With support from Acción Social (a governmental agency in Colombia) and Microsoft, SELF conducted a week-long site assessment and determined that deploying solar electric systems for the indigenous Arhuaco, Kogi and Wiwa communities

Sep 25 10:42

techrights-news

Salmons are being patented now, with profiteers like Bill Gates standing to make monopolies. ☛ https://www.propublica.org/article/the-racism-and-resilience-behind-todays-salmon-crisis | Source: Pro Publica, bribed by Gates, never mentions his crimes

Sep 25 10:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | The Racism, and Resilience, Behind Today’s Salmon Crisis — ProPublica

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in collaboration with NRG Energy, Inc. and the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, SELF has completed the Sun Lights the Way: Brightening Boucan-Carré project

highest_cubist_thrills

jesus fucking christ

highest_cubist_thrills

SELF was selected as a Grand Challenges Explorations winner, an initiative funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation,

techrights-news

Energy bills ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/minneapolis-energy-bills-and-taxes-are-funding-right-wing-candidate-in-wisconsin/ | Source: TruthOut

Sep 25 10:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Minneapolis Energy Bills and Taxes Are Funding Right-Wing Candidate in Wisconsin

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Water privatised ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/water-access-has-returned-to-jackson-but-a-long-term-health-crisis-remains/ | Source: TruthOut

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Water Access Has Returned to Jackson, But a Long-Term Health Crisis Remains

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Electric_Light_Fund#Partnerships

highest_cubist_thrills

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Solar Electric Light Fund - Wikipedia

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X-Ray Tube ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/09/24/this-scratch-built-x-ray-tube-really-shines/ | Source: Hackaday

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Scratch-Built X-Ray Tube Really Shines | Hackaday

highest_cubist_thrills

why are we even pretending that governments exist

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"There has been an unprecedented rush of people canceling their subscriptions to this blog the last five days." ☛ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/ | Source: Craig Murray

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | I Am Puzzled - Craig Murray

highest_cubist_thrills

you cant take a shit without a large corporations blessing

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"Could be people are struggling with providing for themselves at the moment; could also be a hacker. Is there any way you can check this?" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

Sep 25 10:49

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"It seems the only way to subscribe to this blog is via PayPal which is currently out of favour because of its censorship of free-speech organisations. I’m surprised they haven’t got round to cutting off this site." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

Sep 25 10:50

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craig murray: "Good point. Certainly people continually find they have unfollowed me on twitter." Happened to Wikileaks and others too. Social control media can not only censor but also hide and break links between nodes. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comments

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | I Am Puzzled - Craig Murray

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""House of the Dragon" and "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power" are two completely different TV series" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/house-of-the-dragon-crushes-the-rings-of-power-on-pirate-sites-220924/ | Source: Torrent Freak

Sep 25 10:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"House of the Dragon" Crushes "The Rings of Power" on Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak

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DeSantis ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/house-democrats-call-on-doj-to-investigate-desantis-for-cruel-migrant-flights/ | Source: TruthOut

Sep 25 10:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | House Democrats Call on DOJ to Investigate DeSantis for "Cruel Migrant Flights"

Sep 25 10:58

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▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂█▆▂▅▁▆▇▆█▃▅▅▃▁▅▁▂▃▂▂█▁▂▄▆▂█▁▂▃▁▄▁ avg(k/sec) 56.90 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▄▆▁█▂█▁▂▁█▁█▆▁▂▅▁█▆▄▁█▇▇█▁████▇▇▁ avg(k/sec) 103.65▕ swarm size (avg): 112.16 ⟲

Sep 25 10:59

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linux

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4 CTF Cloud and Linux Security Challenges Now Open - Pentesting Cloud ⚓ https://pentesting.cloud/news/4-ctf-cloud-and-linux-security-challenges-now-open/ ䷉ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pentesting.cloud/news/4-ctf-cloud-and-linux-security-challenges-now-open/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pentesting.cloud | 4 CTF Cloud and Linux Security Challenges Now Open - Pentesting Cloud

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"Cloud conditions continue to cause great difficulty for star gazing, but tonight, God cleared away most of the clouds around sunset, and kept it clear until about 10:30pm. This gave me about 1.5 hours of pleasant star gazing." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220924-0.gmi

Sep 25 11:08

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Identity gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1138

Sep 25 11:09

techrights-news

Assembling some notes on Assembly Language gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1137

Sep 25 11:10

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎

Sep 25 11:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos

Sep 25 11:11

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YouTube (the Alphabet/Google Gulag) seems to be weeding out discussion of software freedom; it’s a longstanding issue reported by several GNU/Linux-centric channels over the years http://techrights.org/2022/09/25/google-censoring-linux/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | YouTube (Alphabet Gulag) Keeps Censoring Videos About Free Software and GNU/Linux | Techrights

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Microsoft is trying to decommoditise (read: control) E-mail by shutting out people who use standard protocols; how long have we got before E-mail becomes a surveillance-intensive walled garden? http://techrights.org/2022/09/25/microsoft-vs-pop-and-imap/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Eliminate POP3 and IMAP for E-mail (Attack on Commodity or Standard Protocols) | Techrights

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Sep 25 11:16

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> esr had cancer, apparently

Sep 25 11:19

DaemonFC

I'm sure you were ecstatic to hear that.

Sep 25 11:19

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 11:20

mjg59_

DaemonFC: I was as upset as esr was when he heard Steve Jobs had cancer

Sep 25 11:28

DaemonFC

He was a conniving asshole who was threatening "nuclear war" against Free Software.

Sep 25 11:29

DaemonFC

Apple worked behind the scenes to try to corrupt and patent the Web.

Sep 25 11:30

DaemonFC

They tried it with Canvas and again with HTML 5 media.

Sep 25 11:30

DaemonFC

I don't understand why anyone is upset that a guy who was trying to make it impossible to use the Web, at all, with Free Software is gone.

Sep 25 11:31

DaemonFC

It's Google that's pushing for open standards for media.

Sep 25 11:32

mjg59_

Sounds like you're saying it's ok to not be upset when someone dies

Sep 25 11:32

DaemonFC

Apple hasn't changed at all. They're trying to convince people to put HEIC files in Web pages because they have a license to use those.

Sep 25 11:32

DaemonFC

Everyoen else can just eat broken image placeholders if they use a Free browser.

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> Sounds like you're saying it's ok to not be upset when someone dies

DaemonFC

ESR hasn't damaged Free Software and made it impossible for me to use a certain type of computer program.

DaemonFC

Steve Jobs was trying to do both.

DaemonFC

mjg59_, I suppose I'm supposed to stop and be upset that my mom's ex-husband, who viciously beat us, fell over of a heart attack?

Sep 25 11:34

DaemonFC

I'm not only glad he's dead. I hope it hurt and I hope it went on seemingly forever.

DaemonFC

You're damned right I'm glad he's dead.

schestowitz[TR]

<DaemonFC> <mjg59_> Sounds like you're saying it's ok to not be upset when someone dies

schestowitz[TR]

depend who and why

DaemonFC

So yes, I am glad that some people are dead when they've deserved it. When they've brought nothing into the world except something awful.

schestowitz[TR]

many russians wish for putin to drop dead

Sep 25 11:36

schestowitz[TR]

he kills many

Sep 25 11:36

DaemonFC

I love funerals though. An alcoholic who beats women and children becomes a guy who loved to hunt and fish and ride his motorcycle, and a great-grandfather you know! (The entire family is in and out of lockup....Irish.)

Sep 25 11:36

DaemonFC

Like really Irish.

Sep 25 11:37

DaemonFC

Like so Irish it's a red wine stain on white carpet. You'll never get it out.

Sep 25 11:37

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], Now now, you know mjg59_ is going to post to Shitter that it's mean to want people like Hitler dead.

Sep 25 11:39

DaemonFC

Some people deserve it and we're no worse off without them. Steve Jobs was a narcissistic used car salesman who made a lot of money on Apple.

Sep 25 11:41

DaemonFC

What good did he do for the world? Nothing. He tried to make it impossible to use a Free Web browser.

Sep 25 11:41

DaemonFC

Despite his best efforts, you still can use some of the Web with a Free Web browser.

Sep 25 11:42

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], LibreJS breaks many things in Icecat. Could just turn it off, but would Richard Stallman still smile upon me if I did? That's the question.

Sep 25 11:43

DaemonFC

It's still a lot less irritating than Firefox either way.

Sep 25 11:43

DaemonFC

No SJW Crap in your face and no spyware running in the background.

Sep 25 11:44

DaemonFC

mjg59_ is a sad panda when he thinks about that.

Sep 25 11:44

schestowitz[TR]

the web is the browser

schestowitz[TR]

and the browser is the www

schestowitz[TR]

they are server-client

schestowitz[TR]

and protocols are a mirage

schestowitz[TR]

the browser IS the protocol

schestowitz[TR]

in the MSIE days

schestowitz[TR]

and now again

schestowitz[TR]

difference is

schestowitz[TR]

we are worse off now

schestowitz[TR]

due to rising complexitiy

schestowitz[TR]

in MSIE era you had windows embedded obkjects

schestowitz[TR]

WMP

schestowitz[TR]

ActiveX

schestowitz[TR]

now it's even worse

schestowitz[TR]

and no way back

schestowitz[TR]

so www needs to die along with browsers

schestowitz[TR]

they've become like VMs

schestowitz[TR]

wthere the code is mostly obfuscated JS

schestowitz[TR]

with psuedo-standards

schestowitz[TR]

things die when they become too bloated to be worth it

schestowitz[TR]

and small, agile things sudduntly compensate for lack of cunction

schestowitz[TR]

with their superior performce and..

schestowitz[TR]

cheapness of maintaining them

schestowitz[TR]

like debugging ande extending

schestowitz[TR]

firefox is too bloated now

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gnuzilla

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR]

culling thousands of extensions was a mistalkre

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Gnuzilla - Free Software Directory

schestowitz[TR]

wrong approach

DaemonFC

"The proprietary web chat IRC client Mibbit has been removed."

schestowitz[TR]

then they did the same to thunderbird

DaemonFC

Firefox doesn't have a bundled IRC client.

schestowitz[TR]

makde it more bloated an d remove a lot of useful functionality

schestowitz[TR]

so now we have just bloat

DaemonFC

ChatZilla (which is FOSS) doesn't work in it anymore.

DaemonFC

"DuckDuckGo is the default search engine, which means that you can run "!Bangs" keywords in the location bar to use any search engine."

schestowitz[TR]

bangbang with microsoft

DaemonFC

So maybe it was Fedora that changed it to Google.

schestowitz[TR]

with drpeter and drgates

Sep 25 11:53

schestowitz[TR]

!bang!bang on pizzas

Sep 25 11:54

schestowitz[TR]

SJW mindset:

schestowitz[TR]

he world is run by Donald Trump, ESR,a dn Ryan from IL

schestowitz[TR]

nobody else is of interest

schestowitz[TR]

not even PUTIN ;-)

schestowitz[TR]

putin is "political"

Sep 25 11:57

schestowitz[TR]

putin has no formal coc

schestowitz[TR]

and if they try to foce him to

schestowitz[TR]

he might shoot you between the eyes

schestowitz[TR]

he's not easy to blackmail

techrights-news

Sam Varghese wasting his time doing these puff pieces :/ https://itwire.com/mobile-devices/review-oppo-reno8-pro-5g-lives-life-in-the-fast-charging-lane.html

Sep 25 11:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Review: Oppo Reno8 Pro 5G lives life in the fast-charging lane

Sep 25 11:59

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The Web is sheer bloat. It's not sustainable. W3C promotes DRM, which is massive contributor to pollution and waste. https://tantek.com/2022/267/b1/w3c-tpac-sustainability-cg-meeting

Sep 25 12:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-W3C TPAC 2022 Sustainability Community Group Meeting - Tantek

Sep 25 12:01

techrights-news

M5Stack Thermal Camera 2 Unit combines ESP32 WiSoC with MLX90640 thermal camera - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/25/m5stack-thermal-camera-2-unit-combines-esp32-wisoc-with-mlx90640-thermal-camera/ ䷉ Source: CNX Software | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/25/m5stack-thermal-camera-2-unit-combines-esp32-wisoc-with-mlx90640-thermal-camera/

Sep 25 12:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | M5Stack Thermal Camera 2 Unit combines ESP32 WiSoC with MLX90640 thermal camera - CNX Software

Sep 25 12:01

DaemonFC

Calling DrPizza, DrGates, DrGULAG!

DaemonFC

Emergency!

DaemonFC

DrGULAG DrGULAG, come right away!

DaemonFC

Paging DrGULAG! DrPizza! DrGULAG!

DaemonFC

B-)

schestowitz[TR]

"we,, the joke is dead"

DaemonFC

Now, now, Roy.

DaemonFC

Didn't you hear what mjg59_ said?

schestowitz[TR]

i know

schestowitz[TR]

death is bad

DaemonFC

It's mean to hope that they bash DrPizza's skull in and leave him for the guards to find?

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR]

"If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good."

schestowitz[TR]

Bill Gates, Microsoft, putting makeup on a kid to make it look older

schestowitz[TR]

like in .ph

schestowitz[TR]

"why so serious!"

Sep 25 12:06

schestowitz[TR]

"we're not serious"

Sep 25 12:06

schestowitz[TR]

I always come back to Lolita Gates and the kids"

schestowitz[TR]

Microsoft: ggggggates was unfaithful

schestowitz[TR]

media: gates was not faithful

schestowitz[TR]

to whom?

schestowitz[TR]

to epstein?

schestowitz[TR]

what did he need from him anyway?

schestowitz[TR]

had this diuscussion yesterday with a friend over

schestowitz[TR]

it's clear that he was up to no good

schestowitz[TR]

to me, the options can be narrowed down to:

schestowitz[TR]

1) he liked to watch

schestowitz[TR]

2) he particpated

schestowitz[TR]

3) the secrets epstein had were beyond sexual

schestowitz[TR]

(3) would likely be bext for billg

schestowitz[TR]

but I struggle to think what else he could blackmail with

schestowitz[TR]

that billg would want to see a convicted monster behind bars

schestowitz[TR]

and fly over to see him

schestowitz[TR]

and then insist that they need to whiten his name

schestowitz[TR]

and then lie about meeting him

schestowitz[TR]

and then mock his death when challenged about it

Sep 25 12:09

schestowitz[TR]

BillBC and BillPR now use strawman "plants" to present all this is just some "conspiracy theory"

Sep 25 12:09

schestowitz[TR]

when controlling "media" that calls itself "public"

Sep 25 12:09

schestowitz[TR]

and is partly funded by the gullible public

schestowitz[TR]

but helps cover up child predation

schestowitz[TR]

like billBC did with Jimmy Savile too

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/jimmy-savile-raped-children-as-young-as-nine-while-working-at-bbc-leaked-report-finds-a6824436.html

schestowitz[TR]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-26/jimmy-savile-said-to-have-sexually-abused-dead-bodies/5553742

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

The Beed

schestowitz[TR]

*Beed

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | 'Jimmy Savile raped children as young as nine' while working at BBC, leaked report unveils | The Independent | The Independent

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | BBC star Jimmy Savile 'committed sex acts on dead bodies' while volunteering at hospital - ABC News

schestowitz[TR]

necrophiles

schestowitz[TR]

as managers

schestowitz[TR]

the need a new word for it

schestowitz[TR]

necropedophila

schestowitz[TR]

two in one?

schestowitz[TR]

how about

schestowitz[TR]

necrozoopedophila?

schestowitz[TR]

lust for screwing baby animals

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], DuckDuckGo still works without JavaScript.

schestowitz[TR]

when they are dead

DaemonFC

They have a non-JS version you get redirected to.

schestowitz[TR]

mental coinditions are nowadays being normalised

http://techrights.org/2022/09/13/npr-kids/

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

RMS stares = bad

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Does NPR, Funded by Bill Gates, Publish Such a Thing This Week? | Techrights

schestowitz[TR]

people wanting to harm themselves = normal

schestowitz[TR]

redefined as "lifestyle choice"

schestowitz[TR]

maybe that was the strategy of billG

schestowitz[TR]

maybe they can weaponise thew mdia tro convince society fast enough that 60 year olds 'doing' 12 years olds is consensual

schestowitz[TR]

and won't scar the girls

techrights-news

Openwashing by tarnishing away the brand "Linux" https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-enterprise/meta-pytorch-linux-foundation-twitter

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meta transfers PyTorch to the Linux Foundation - Protocol

schestowitz[TR]

mjg59_: did you ever tweet about savile?

schestowitz[TR]

I can check..

DaemonFC

The NIH lists a high quality study from Sweden showing that Trans people kill themselves at very high rights.

DaemonFC

I wonder when that will be deleted to fit with the Biden Administration's reclassification of womanhood.

schestowitz[TR]

yes, that's statistically provable

schestowitz[TR]

but some people reverse cause and effect

schestowitz[TR]

anyway, that's for other irc channels

schestowitz[TR]

don't debate it here

schestowitz[TR]

not related to tech at all

DaemonFC

It's all a part of the leftist attack on the family.

DaemonFC

Bill Gates supports this, and funds it.

schestowitz[TR]

supports what?

schestowitz[TR]

"Family planning{" yes

schestowitz[TR]

eugenics wiuth better PR

schestowitz[TR]

but he harms gays

DaemonFC

Propaganda encouraging transgender acceptance on NPR.

techrights-ipfs-bot

schestowitz[TR]

mjg59_: did you mention how gates harms gays?

schestowitz[TR]

with his patent monopolklies?

schestowitz[TR]

off boundaries?

schestowitz[TR]

to poke fun at vulnerable gates?

DaemonFC

Yes, to sell vaccines, Gates pushes homophobic articles about a disease that hasn't killed anyone.

schestowitz[TR]

and hiv patenrs

schestowitz[TR]

*patents

schestowitz[TR]

he is a massive novartis pusher

schestowitz[TR]

techrights covered this several times a decade ago

schestowitz[TR]

gates kills gays

schestowitz[TR]

mjg59_: i am more concerned about a gay man from IL

schestowitz[TR]

billg has no relevance to me

schestowitz[TR]

billggates is a protected minority

schestowitz[TR]

there are only about 10 people as rich as that

schestowitz[TR]

they're a tiny minority

schestowitz[TR]

iiit's a low blow to take on minorities

schestowitz[TR]

it's even raycist

schestowitz[TR]

becauyse they are all white

schestowitz[TR]

even the african on that list

schestowitz[TR]

he's european colonist

schestowitz[TR]

who kickstarted by abusing local, indiginous people in ruby mines

schestowitz[TR]

aka slaver

schestowitz[TR]

or emerald

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], mjg59_ is like DuckDuckGo. Every time you call him out for being shady or lying, he switches to something else.

schestowitz[TR]

the locals kicked him in the head

schestowitz[TR]

that's how much even KIDS ahted him

schestowitz[TR]

that should tell you

DaemonFC

Or just stops engaging until he resurfaces later to fire a torpedo and dive.

schestowitz[TR]

Microsoft NDAs

schestowitz[TR]

maybe he signed some too

schestowitz[TR]

for shim

schestowitz[TR]

NDA

schestowitz[TR]

like NWA

schestowitz[TR]

but without the "n**ers"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | N.W.A - Wikipedia

schestowitz[TR]

mjg59_ has many black friends

schestowitz[TR]

/homies/mjg/

schestowitz[TR]

he is very tolerant

schestowitz[TR]

tolerant towards:

schestowitz[TR]

billg

schestowitz[TR]

jimmy savile

schestowitz[TR]

...

https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/739100912820461570

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @sabdfl I don't think people like Bill Cosby or Jimmy Savile were leaders

schestowitz[TR]

that's all he ever said about Savile

schestowitz[TR]

ever!

schestowitz[TR]

i ressponse to mark shuttlweworth

https://twitter.com/sabdfl

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/sabdfl )

schestowitz[TR]

"High profile figures are able to get away with things because they're in a position to make a significant proportion of accusations go away

schestowitz[TR]

Mark Shuttleworth

schestowitz[TR]

@sabdfl

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

Jun 4, 2016

schestowitz[TR]

no, it's because the choice of leaders is between various other high profile people, who also have flaws

schestowitz[TR]

Matthew Garrett

schestowitz[TR]

@mjg59

schestowitz[TR]

Replying to

schestowitz[TR]

@sabdfl

schestowitz[TR]

I don't think people like Bill Cosby or Jimmy Savile were leaders"

schestowitz[TR]

Mark Shuttleworth = hypocrite

http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/jeff-waugh-on-mark-shuttleworth/

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Audio: Mark Shuttleworth Marketed to Young Males, With Sexy Pictures | Techrights

http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

Partial trascript (Jeff Waugh): “What happened was, we’ve had some very… some of the very early initial meetings (when, you know, there were about 10 people) and Mark [Shuttleworth] showed this picture… and it was of a girl called Sabrina, or that’s the name that he gave her. And it was a very [?] tone, Vaseline on the lens kind of shot, and it was a… a very beautiful shot, but it was with a girl with her face turned aw

schestowitz[TR]

ay but her breasts perfectly visible. And he saying to everyone, ‘this is what I want the desktop to look like.’”

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Sexy Dawn of Ubuntu Branding | Techrights

schestowitz[TR]

"If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good."

Sep 25 12:30

schestowitz[TR]

-Bill Gates, coipilot for Jeffrey Epstein, frequent flyer

Sep 25 12:30

schestowitz[TR]

Mark Shuttle (MS): if you can't make debian, look good..

DaemonFC

I'm mjg59_ and this is my black friend! See, he's very well fed and happy! What? God is a negro!? I am so screwed!

schestowitz[TR]

add nudes

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR]

cp -R /home/mjg/ /homies/ghettopeople/

DaemonFC

I just borrowed that from Bob Pogo from F is for Family.

schestowitz[TR]

sudo su marisol

schestowitz[TR]

\sudo !!

schestowitz[TR]

of course the irony is,

schestowitz[TR]

marisol grew up in the ghetto

schestowitz[TR]

now calls others "ghetto people"

schestowitz[TR]

like ryan making fun of poor, un employed people with cirminal records

Sep 25 12:33

schestowitz[TR]

i.e. people like him

Sep 25 12:33

schestowitz[TR]

or ICBM calling the community rude and unruly

Sep 25 12:33

schestowitz[TR]

falling in love with linux https://www.papermag.com/linux-nyfw-spring-2023-2658229668.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.papermag.com/linux-nyfw-spring-2023-2658229668.html )

schestowitz[TR]

now linux is a person

schestowitz[TR]

too much makeup, linus, too much makeup...

schestowitz[TR]

make up another name

schestowitz[TR]

this one is a trademark infringement

schestowitz[TR]

james zemlin adn sheela microsoft don't mind

Sep 25 12:35

schestowitz[TR]

ruining the brand seems like an objective

Sep 25 12:35

schestowitz[TR]

and nobody in these septs in LF uses Linux

schestowitz[TR]

because, to them, linus sucks

schestowitz[TR]

it's just some brand to whither away

schestowitz[TR]

*linux

schestowitz[TR]

and they also ruin git

schestowitz[TR]

by outsoucing to the enemy of git

schestowitz[TR]

the EEE of Git

schestowitz[TR]

"what does LF do?"

schestowitz[TR]

"surely,, it's for Linux... it's in the name"

schestowitz[TR]

reality check: "no, it takes monewy freom companies that attack Linux"

schestowitz[TR]

and attacks the other project of Linus Torvalds, Git

schestowitz[TR]

by funnelling projects into the Microsoft attackl on Git

schestowitz[TR]

which was primed for attacks for YEARS by drpizza

schestowitz[TR]

before he was arrested for child rape

schestowitz[TR]

he did a lot of the anti-git stenography for Microsoft

schestowitz[TR]

now he's just "staff writer" for conde nast

schestowitz[TR]

they left all those planted micfrosoft articles in tact

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], Icecat seems faster than Firefox.

DaemonFC

Much more responsive.

schestowitz[TR]

so that the MS PR agencies can defact Wikipedia

schestowitz[TR]

with "authoritative" sources as references

schestowitz[TR]

linking to articles they themselves writer

schestowitz[TR]

with the pen name of mr. penpal

schestowitz[TR]

or penplay

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: less "telemetry"

schestowitz[TR]

less "to improve your experience"

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techrights-news

➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Top 35 Linux Console Tips and Tricks From Practical Experience ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Top_35_Linux_Console_Tips_and_Tricks_From_Practical_Experience.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Top_35_Linux_Console_Tips_and_Tricks_From_Practical_Experience.gmi ∎

Sep 25 12:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Top 35 Linux Console Tips and Tricks From Practical Experience

Sep 25 12:42

DaemonFC

I plan to review this after I've rested.

Sep 25 12:42

DaemonFC

I'm going to sleep for a bit.

Sep 25 12:43

DaemonFC

I wonder why it doesn't connect the icon for Icecat to the running application.

Sep 25 12:43

DaemonFC

You open it and the binary is called "icecat-default" and has another entry on the dash.

schestowitz[TR]

librewolf is strange also

schestowitz[TR]

renaming two types ofm processes

schestowitz[TR]

I guess due to

schestowitz[TR]

a) trademarks

schestowitz[TR]

b) conflict with a running firefox instance (they cann run ok in tandem)

schestowitz[TR]

i wonder if waterfox and librewolf dveelopers have a past employment in mozilla

schestowitz[TR]

and whether Bakersoft will brand them,m "bad actors"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUnet

DaemonFC

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GNUnet - Wikipedia

schestowitz[TR]

at which point they will be in trouble

DaemonFC

Looking at this.

schestowitz[TR]

deplotforming and lawyering up by the "I'm not coding, but IU have law degree" Baker

schestowitz[TR]

gnunet is not ready yet

schestowitz[TR]

they allege

schestowitz[TR]

so I've not installed it yet

schestowitz[TR]

not "stable"

schestowitz[TR]

it can be interesting alongside gemini

schestowitz[TR]

as the sites are also text files by now

schestowitz[TR]

so should be easy for any protocol or transport layer

schestowitz[TR]

ftp, ipfs..

schestowitz[TR]

i tried bbs

schestowitz[TR]

bbs is tricky

schestowitz[TR]

it tends to assume modem connection

schestowitz[TR]

modulation

schestowitz[TR]

techrights by fax ;-)

DaemonFC

Fax all of Techrights to mjg59_'s lawyer.

DaemonFC

Yo dawg, I heard you like papers.

schestowitz[TR]

paypa'

schestowitz[TR]

that's how they get paid

schestowitz[TR]

i saw it firsthand

schestowitz[TR]

you hand them over paper

schestowitz[TR]

they turnn it to more paypa'

schestowitz[TR]

with this thing called "xerox"

schestowitz[TR]

then charge you 200 pounds an hour

schestowitz[TR]

for all that tiring xerox "high-tech" stuff

DaemonFC

I wonder what they could do if you sent them Techrights articles to a fax number.

schestowitz[TR]

put in m,achinbe, poress button

schestowitz[TR]

enter next paper, rpeeat

schestowitz[TR]

1600 pounds for a day's work

DaemonFC

You're not in the US, so the junk fax law doesn't matter. Right?

schestowitz[TR]

then the 'certified' laywyer addss the signature

schestowitz[TR]

"added value"

schestowitz[TR]

"i have a licence to print money lol!"

schestowitz[TR]

ireland hates lawyers

Sep 25 12:51

schestowitz[TR]

they have experiences with the british

Sep 25 12:51

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], Being a public defender must really suck.

Sep 25 12:52

DaemonFC

It barely pays anything, you get stuck defending the dog fuckers of Lake County.

Sep 25 12:52

DaemonFC

You hate your clients but you have to go in there and give them a defense.

techrights-news

Diploma mills. Waste of your money. Like investing in shitcoins. https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/21/3-free-linux-security-training-courses/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | 3 free Linux security training courses you can take right now - Help Net Security

DaemonFC

Most lawyers will accept any client who can pay them though

techrights-news

“inappropriate

techrights-news

"Revolut customers began noticing something was wrong on September 11, when some of them reported receiving “inappropriate wording via chat.”" https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/20/revolut-data-breach-phishing/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Revolut data breach: 50,000+ users affected - Help Net Security

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: alex graveley

schestowitz[TR]

the man who tells girls he has $200,000,000

schestowitz[TR]

barely has 200k

schestowitz[TR]

employed by microsoft

schestowitz[TR]

says he works there in his site

schestowitz[TR]

but actually got sacked

schestowitz[TR]

forced to resig

schestowitz[TR]

we'll likely cover this next year, maybe before xmas

schestowitz[TR]

it's connected to other stuff

schestowitz[TR]

like de icaza and nat-a-friend-man

schestowitz[TR]

maybe james zemlin and sheela microsoft can still save gtihub

schestowitz[TR]

in 'Linux's' name

techrights-ipfs-bot

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▂▁▂▆▃▅▇▅▅▂▃▁▂▃▄▁▂▁▂▃▂▁▃▁▄▄▄▁▃▆▅▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 16.68 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▇▁█████▁█▁▁▁█▇█▅█▇███▆▁█▁▂█▁█▁▁▂▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 119.11▕ swarm size (avg): 118.61 ⟲

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schestowitz[TR]

<schestowitz[TR]> we'll likely cover this next year, maybe before xmas

schestowitz[TR]

better to publish along with formal documents

schestowitz[TR]

and full verifiable context

schestowitz[TR]

to avoid the ad hom brigades

schestowitz[TR]

who try to distract from the news

schestowitz[TR]

and the full extent/ramifications

schestowitz[TR]

typical self-described SJW:

schestowitz[TR]

*) condemns trmp

schestowitz[TR]

*) condemns ICE

schestowitz[TR]

*) says it supports FOSS

schestowitz[TR]

*) use ICE GitHub

schestowitz[TR]

*) says PROPRIETARY Githib is foss

schestowitz[TR]

*) insists microsoft is not the enemy

schestowitz[TR]

*) attacks the founder of FOSS

schestowitz[TR]

*) posts supportive libel in PROPRIETARY twitter

schestowitz[TR]

and nowhere else

schestowitz[TR]

* bonus: takes 6-figure salary, PLUS bonus

Sep 25 13:06

schestowitz[TR]

* attacks people who work as VOLUNTEERS... because they make typos in IRF ;-)

Sep 25 13:06

schestowitz[TR]

*IRC

Sep 25 13:06

schestowitz[TR]

"only stupid people pursue something that isn't money" (to compensate for insecurities)

Sep 25 13:07

techrights-news

Uber repeatedly getting cracked. And those are only the INCIDENTS WE KNOW about (there are more for sure). https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/uber-hack-linked-to-hardcoded-secrets-spotted-in-powershell-script take taxi, pay cash

Sep 25 13:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Uber hack linked to hardcoded secrets spotted in PowerShell script | The Daily Swig

Sep 25 13:08

schestowitz[TR]

mjg59_: if you cared about real social justice, , you and I would be natural allies

Sep 25 13:10

schestowitz[TR]

putin is branding himself protector of russia

Sep 25 13:10

schestowitz[TR]

while sending millions to die... trying to kill millions of others who never wanted war

Sep 25 13:10

schestowitz[TR]

you calling yourself "social justice warrior" is like me calling myself "trans woman"

schestowitz[TR]

it's a statement about oneself

schestowitz[TR]

putin: I protect russians

schestowitz[TR]

trump: I will make America great again

schestowitz[TR]

Biden: I'm not Trump (technically that's true)

techrights-news

Microsoft: we're a legacy company. So we break everything we can, including Linux.. and E-mail http://boston.conman.org//2022/09/22.1

Sep 25 13:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boston.conman.org | So when did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?” - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm

Sep 25 13:13

techrights-news

Useless fact: if Microsoft determine if (of when) you cannot boot up your own machine, you have a back door

Sep 25 13:15

techrights-news

Useless fact: if Microsoft determines if (or when) you cannot boot up your own machine, you have a back door and the only way to get rid of it is to surgically remove part of the hardware, which is proprietary and still cannot be trusted, esp. if attached to a network

Sep 25 13:16

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 13:20

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎

Sep 25 13:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming Leftovers

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎

Sep 25 13:34

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Sep 25 13:34

techrights-news

Gemini Radio: Episode 45 gemini://kwiecien.us/gemcast/20220925.gmi

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): W3C, Browsers, and KaTeX ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/W3C_Browsers_and_KaTeX.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/W3C_Browsers_and_KaTeX.gmi ∎

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — W3C, Browsers, and KaTeX

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi ∎

Sep 25 13:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers

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pellBinding: GHIWNSK Wordo: CALLA gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi

Sep 25 14:24

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How to Create Macros in VIM for Repetitive Tasks https://linuxhint.com/creating_vim_macros/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to Create Macros in VIM for Repetitive Tasks

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How to Copy from Clipboard to Nano ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/copy_from_clipboard_nano/ ䷉ Source: Linux Hint | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhint.com/copy_from_clipboard_nano/

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MSA espionage. Don't do it, man... https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-back-up-directly-to-google-drive-on-linux/

Sep 25 14:29

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Sep 25 14:29

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How Linux Users Can Speed Up Their Software Distribution - LinuxTechLab ⚓ https://linuxtechlab.com/how-linux-users-can-speed-up-their-software-distribution/ ䷉ Source: LinuxTechLab | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxtechlab.com/how-linux-users-can-speed-up-their-software-distribution/

Sep 25 14:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Linux Users Can Speed Up Their Software Distribution - LinuxTechLab

Sep 25 14:30

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"We cover events and user groups that are running in the US state of Wyoming. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-wyoming/

Sep 25 14:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Around The World: USA - Wyoming - LinuxLinks

Sep 25 14:31

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"We cover events and user groups that are running in the US state of Wyoming. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-wyoming/

Sep 25 14:32

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"Spoilt babies with nuclear weapons are not exactly a healthy mix" https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2022/09/25/rama-ii-arthur-c-clarke-aliens/

Sep 25 14:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | Rama II, Arthur C. Clarke, Aliens – Experiences in the community

Sep 25 14:32

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Top 10 Best PhpStorm Themes and Color Schemes in 2022 ⚓ https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-phpstorm-themes-and-color-schemes/ ䷉ Source: Ubuntu Pit | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-phpstorm-themes-and-color-schemes/

Sep 25 14:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | Top 10 Best PhpStorm Themes and Color Schemes in 2022

Sep 25 14:38

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"The PhoenixRC is a controller with 8 channels for use in flight simulators." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=acc3e34613da139643af2ce4ca7e7dadf07478d6

Sep 25 14:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.git

Sep 25 14:39

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SysLinuxOS 2022-09-24 is out https://syslinuxos.com/primi-passi/

Sep 25 14:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Primi passi - SysLinuxOS

Sep 25 14:41

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Sep 25 14:41

MinceR

i see mjg59_ admires steve jobs

Sep 25 14:42

MinceR

no surprise there, they're both enemies of the users and the users' freedom

Sep 25 14:42

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Archinstall outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software prison. Makes Arch look incompetent. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Archinstall-2.5.1-Released

Sep 25 14:43

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Sep 25 14:43

schestowitz[TR]

they both hate women, too

schestowitz[TR]

jobs disowned his own daughter and g/f

schestowitz[TR]

Lisa, IIRC

schestowitz[TR]

said he could not possible be the father

schestowitz[TR]

"you're not holding it right..."

MinceR

didn't stop him from naming a product after her

Sep 25 14:45

schestowitz[TR]

much later

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Eager to Try Pop!_OS 22.10? Well, You Can’t… ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Eager_to_Try_Pop_OS_22_10_Well_You_Can_t.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Eager_to_Try_Pop_OS_22_10_Well_You_Can_t.gmi ∎

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Allen School News - Allen School researchers bring first underwater messaging app to smartphones ⚓ https://news.cs.washington.edu/2022/08/29/allen-school-researchers-bring-first-underwater-messaging-app-to-smartphones/

Sep 25 14:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.cs.washington.edu | Allen School News » Allen School researchers bring first underwater messaging app to smartphones

Sep 25 14:57

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"Social media is undoubtedly one way to get information, but it also presents a significant obstacle. It is very challenging to determine whether the opinion and input of a given account are valid or useful due to the anonymity of the account, doubts about whether the account is owned by a real person or a bot" https://analyticsindiamag.com/the-backend-of-indian-elections/

Sep 25 14:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | The Backend of Indian Elections

Sep 25 14:59

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Sep 25 14:59

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More listening devices, more bugs, more Pentagon digging up dirt on everyone in the same of "smart", "assistants", etc. https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/09/amazon-lex-chatbot/

Sep 25 15:06

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Amazon Is Adding Visual Conversation Builder for Amazon Lex

Sep 25 15:07

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GAFAM: subsidised by taxpayers... to violate the rights of those same taxpayers

Sep 25 15:07

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Angst over corruption watchdog, first Queen’s death, now fear of Dutton deal - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/a-corruption-watchdog-with-teeth-the-experts-tell-how/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/a-corruption-watchdog-with-teeth-the-experts-tell-how/

Sep 25 15:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Angst over corruption watchdog, first Queen's death, now fear of Dutton deal - Michael West

Sep 25 15:08

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What sort of sick government subsidises or bails out those who attack constituents, the citizens? The sort of government that helps them oppress the citizens, whom the government (or puppet therein) dislikes and distrusts...

Sep 25 15:10

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highest_cubist_thrills

mjg59_: if you cared about real social justice, , you and I would be natural allies

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont agree with that either

techrights-news

Dear taxpayer, we the government need to spy on you even more (enter excuses like the children and terrorism), would you mind paying us some MORE money to spy on you even more?

highest_cubist_thrills

but it would certainly be a start

techrights-news

Groping at the airports (and soon bus stations) will persist until morale improves

Sep 25 15:12

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My Debian Activities in August 2022 https://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/09/my-debian-activities-in-august-2022/

Sep 25 15:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Debian Activities in August 2022 – blog.alteholz.eu

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Hello World Haskell https://blog.drewolson.org/hello-world-haskell

Sep 25 15:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.drewolson.org | Hello World Haskell

Sep 25 15:15

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"When should you reuse code and modify it to your requirements? When should you roll your own? There's no general answer to this question, but a few guidelines that I've picked up over the years." https://matt-rickard.com/when-to-roll-your-own-x

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | When To Roll Your Own X

highest_cubist_thrills

lol

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"If we will not endure a King as a political power we should not endure a King over the production, transportation, and sale of the necessaries of life." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/15/prime-suspect/#consumer-welfare

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 15 Sep 2022 California’s antitrust case against Amazon – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

highest_cubist_thrills

<mjg59_> Sounds like you're saying it's ok to not be upset when someone dies

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"I fricking live technology. My house is full of gadgets, I've written code that's run all over the world, and I'm currently studying for an MSc in technology." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/have-i-reached-the-douglas-adams-inflection-point-or-is-modern-tech-just-a-bit-rubbish/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | Have I reached the Douglas Adams Inflection point (or is modern tech just a bit rubbish)? – Terence Eden’s Blog

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"So, it was more than a feeling. We are terrible at labelling buttons. I understand that this can be confusing, because there are many different ways of getting the job done" https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/button-baader/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matuzo.at | Buttons and the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon - Manuel Matuzović

highest_cubist_thrills

/me sees what mjg is doing here, but wont crack the code because its useful in other situations

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"This bug would have been caught using Circomspect, a new static analyzer for ZKPs that we are open-sourcing today." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/09/15/it-pays-to-be-circomspect/

Sep 25 15:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.trailofbits.com | It pays to be Circomspect | Trail of Bits Blog

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Sep 25 15:20

highest_cubist_thrills

<schestowitz[TR> people wanting to harm themselves = normal | redefined as "lifestyle choice"

Sep 25 15:20

highest_cubist_thrills

im not familiar with this one, who is redefining self-harm as a "lifestyle choice"

Sep 25 15:20

highest_cubist_thrills

or even what form of self-harm is being redefined as such?

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"The Valuable News weekly series is dedicated to provide summary about news, articles and other interesting stuff mostly but not always related to the UNIX or BSD systems. Whenever I stumble upon something worth mentioning on the Internet I just put it here." https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/09/05/valuable-news-2022-09-05/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vermaden.wordpress.com | Valuable News – 2022/09/05 | 𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚗

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: two trends:

schestowitz[TR]

1) over-medicating and over-diagning

schestowitz[TR]

to sell pills and stuff

schestowitz[TR]

that can in fact do mro0e harm than good

schestowitz[TR]

2) ignoring issues

schestowitz[TR]

and classifying them as a new normalcy

schestowitz[TR]

inc. covid-19

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"In regard to social media use, the only winning move is to not play!" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/06/limiting-toxic-technology/

Sep 25 15:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alexn.org | Limiting Toxic Technology - Alexandru Nedelcu

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highest_cubist_thrills

okay

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"Although this looks like a video game, I did not write any game code." http://madebyoll.in/posts/game_emulation_via_dnn

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-madebyoll.in | Game Emulation via Neural Network

highest_cubist_thrills

<schestowitz[TR]> bbs is tricky <schestowitz[TR]> it tends to assume modem connection <- not really

schestowitz[TR]

can you elaborate?

schestowitz[TR]

i still want to try bbs

highest_cubist_thrills

in the latter days of the bbs, it was common to see them based on telnet

schestowitz[TR]

looked into some sofwtare for it

schestowitz[TR]

but it makes assumptions about the stack

schestowitz[TR]

yes, telnet

highest_cubist_thrills

for gemini theres an ssh connection you can get without credentials

schestowitz[TR]

but that comes with its own jar of owmr

schestowitz[TR]

worms

highest_cubist_thrills

so that would be the modern equivalent

highest_cubist_thrills

but that comes with its own jar of owm <- i just addressed that

schestowitz[TR]

gemini is tls

schestowitz[TR]

i accessed bbs from here

highest_cubist_thrills

gemini is tls <- im a step ahead of you

schestowitz[TR]

over telnet

schestowitz[TR]

but opening that port outwards seem tricky and risky

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LOLOLOLOL!!! £1549 for a fu----ing "phone" https://chrishannah.me/iphone-13-to-14-price-increase/

Sep 25 15:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrishannah.me | iPhone 13 to 14 Price Increase

Sep 25 15:26

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Sorry, that's £1749! Even more. It increased in price... 200 pounds. A 15% increase almost. Apple cannot sell many products anymore. So it's milking the iDiots who buy these no matter what...

Sep 25 15:27

highest_cubist_thrills

ssh is "just" modern telnet

highest_cubist_thrills

theres a gemini-related service (proxy?) that uses ssh

techrights-news

Apple used to say "think different" (ICBM was "think") but these days it teaches people just not to think at all

highest_cubist_thrills

youve covered it, i dont know what the address is

highest_cubist_thrills

you could do "bbs" that way

schestowitz[TR]

that's not the same

schestowitz[TR]

you use ssh

highest_cubist_thrills

for everyone that can use an ssh client

schestowitz[TR]

you connect to an open sssh proixy

highest_cubist_thrills

that's not the same <- how is it different

schestowitz[TR]

and then you can test clients on these

schestowitz[TR]

it's a shell with limited sets of commands

schestowitz[TR]

for bbs you can use telnet right now

highest_cubist_thrills

it's a shell with limited sets of commands <- whats a shell

schestowitz[TR]

but to operate bbs you need a set of tools

highest_cubist_thrills

to operate bbs you need a set of tools <-

schestowitz[TR]

for more than hell world and also colours, menus, games

highest_cubist_thrills

whats a shell, roy

highest_cubist_thrills

hint: /etc/shells

schestowitz[TR]

let me get an up to date list of public bbs server... there's a site that hass a directory

https://8bitboyz.com/bbs-directory/

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8bitboyz.com | BBS Directory | 8-Bit Boyz

highest_cubist_thrills

why dont you skip the part where you try to disprove facts and get to the part where you learn new facts.

http://www.bbscorner.com/usersinfo/bbslists.htm

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbscorner.com | The BBS Corner - Lists of BBS Lists

https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telnetbbsguide.com | Home Page - Telnet BBS Guide

highest_cubist_thrills

we have established that you can do bbs over telnet, yes?

schestowitz[TR]

:~$ telnet oddnetwork.org

schestowitz[TR]

try this..

highest_cubist_thrills

i know how telnet works.

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont think you realise how it works.

highest_cubist_thrills

but its simple enough to figure this out.

highest_cubist_thrills

ill keep trying to get through to you for a minute. this is purely technical so theres at least a chance.

highest_cubist_thrills

the main difference between telnet and ssh is that ssh is secure

highest_cubist_thrills

fsvo secure

schestowitz[TR]

hmmm "AnusCake BBS"

highest_cubist_thrills

sounds delightful.

https://www.facebook.com/416274978767334/posts/gemini-bbs-why-choose-just-one-most-sets-come-in-two-colors-or-more-and-have-two/534223053639192/

highest_cubist_thrills

are you familiar with /etc/shells

Sep 25 15:34

highest_cubist_thrills

have you ever modified it

Sep 25 15:34

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.facebook.com | Log into Facebook | Facebook

schestowitz[TR]

lol

schestowitz[TR]

photos of panties and bras

schestowitz[TR]

"gemini vs bbs"

Sep 25 15:36

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Sep 25 15:36

highest_cubist_thrills

you can put any interactive text program in /etc/shells <- not that you necessarily should

highest_cubist_thrills

interactive

highest_cubist_thrills

text program

highest_cubist_thrills

a shell (bash ksh zsh) is an interactive text program

highest_cubist_thrills

a bbs is an interactive text program

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Pseudoscience http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/09/the-multiverse-science-religion-or.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-backreaction.blogspot.com | Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The Multiverse: Science, Religion, or Pseudoscience?

highest_cubist_thrills

before ssh existed, you could use telnet.

Sep 25 15:38

highest_cubist_thrills

the benefits of an ssh connection (over telnet) when there is no password, youd have to ask someone who knows more about security.

Sep 25 15:38

highest_cubist_thrills

the first thing i think of is that telnet clients probably arent as well maintained as ssh, but i guess thats up for debate.

highest_cubist_thrills

there may be other advantages.

techrights-news

"If you want a Top Level Domain which you can renew for a decade, the cheapest appears to be .feedback which costs a smidge under £13 for 10 years." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/whats-the-cheapest-domain-you-can-register-for-10-years/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | What’s the cheapest domain you can register for 10 years? – Terence Eden’s Blog

highest_cubist_thrills

for all i know, ssh provides the equivalent of ssl/tls regardless of password. but if theres no password, i mean

schestowitz[TR]

cubexyz: https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-05-rubik-s-cube-to-the-rescue.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-warmedal.se | Rubik’s Cube to the Rescue - Björn Wärmedal

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont know shit about that. maybe its trivial to eavesdrop on ssh if the password is default or known.

highest_cubist_thrills

but i do know a second way to secure that connection that works. you wouldnt use it anyway. but its not related to LF.

highest_cubist_thrills

nor LE.

frog

nice sunday, re-implemented some sudo/doas utility, and it works, won't need any gnu-toolchain nor gnu-buildsystem dependency

highest_cubist_thrills

at any rate, any service that uses telnet you should be able to simply run over ssh instead.

highest_cubist_thrills

including a bbs.

highest_cubist_thrills

because a bbs is just a shell.

frog

it is noteworthy, how fast and simple programming can be, without GNU

highest_cubist_thrills

if you think of it as anything else, youll miss the (very practical) point

Sep 25 15:42

highest_cubist_thrills

practical because it makes it pretty easy for people to make their own bbs.

Sep 25 15:42

frog

there is a song, without or without GNU, with or without GNU huhu

Sep 25 15:42

highest_cubist_thrills

and since we all love text, and all hate the web

highest_cubist_thrills

making a bbs does sound like fun

highest_cubist_thrills

if only it was as simple as writing an interactive text program and adding it to /etc/shell

highest_cubist_thrills

/etc/shells

highest_cubist_thrills

oh wait, it pretty much is. then you just need to allow connections to it.

techrights-news

"NNCP is one of those things that almost defies explanation. It is a toolkit for building asynchronous networks. It can use as a carrier: a pipe, TCP network connection, a mounted filesystem (specifically intended for cases like this), and much more." https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10421-dead-usb-drives-are-fine-building-a-reliable-sneakernet

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Dead USB Drives Are Fine: Building a Reliable Sneakernet | The Changelog

highest_cubist_thrills

you can use telnet for that. personally i would use ssh for that.

schestowitz[TR]

very serious problems:

schestowitz[TR]

not many people use that

highest_cubist_thrills

either way, its not tied to the phone line or modem.

schestowitz[TR]

there is no url structure

highest_cubist_thrills

not many people use that

schestowitz[TR]

client access (not all gnu/linux distros have those)

highest_cubist_thrills

client access (not all gnu/linux distros have those) <- are you suggesting theres a widely-used distro that is incapable of doing ssh?

schestowitz[TR]

no, telnet

highest_cubist_thrills

as for the fact that most people dont use bbs, most of them use the web. so just use the web then.

schestowitz[TR]

you don't want a guest anon account for ssh

highest_cubist_thrills

you don't want a guest anon account for ssh <- why not

schestowitz[TR]

even most tlnet servers require you have an account

highest_cubist_thrills

no, telnet <- why would you prefer telnet over ssh...

highest_cubist_thrills

its just legacy ssh.

schestowitz[TR]

bbs is legacy

highest_cubist_thrills

its issh (insecure shell)

highest_cubist_thrills

i thought you were interested in doing bbs.

highest_cubist_thrills

because you said youre still interested in doing bbs.

schestowitz[TR]

was

highest_cubist_thrills

you "were" "still" interested.

highest_cubist_thrills

okay

highest_cubist_thrills

well, that was fun.

techrights-news

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-warmedal.se | Spending My Own Money for Office Comfort? - Björn Wärmedal

highest_cubist_thrills

you dont want conventional solutions because you think (probably correctly) that theyre bullshit

highest_cubist_thrills

but you also dont want unconventional solutions because theyre unconventional

techrights-news

"The price of dairy milk is now at parity with oat-milk and soya-milk. Yes, I'm sure there are some things for which plant milk is unsuitable." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/08/im-only-vegan-for-the-money/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | I’m only vegan for the money – Terence Eden’s Blog

techrights-news

"Even if you ignore all the environmental benefits of switching from cow-milk to plant-milk, it's hard to ignore the benefit to your bank balance." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/08/im-only-vegan-for-the-money/

highest_cubist_thrills

the way things become conventions is by people using them

schestowitz[TR]

telnet is not secure

schestowitz[TR]

or not easy to secure

schestowitz[TR]

bbs over ssh is not bbs

schestowitz[TR]

and the back end bbs software is assuming lots of arcane stuff

schestowitz[TR]

hence I mentions modems

highest_cubist_thrills

its nto

highest_cubist_thrills

but youre wrong though

schestowitz[TR]

it's not documentation like,

schestowitz[TR]

follow this steps on Debian 11...

schestowitz[TR]

*these

highest_cubist_thrills

okay, well

schestowitz[TR]

ok, then

schestowitz[TR]

prove me wrong

schestowitz[TR]

set up a bbs server with m,enus and colours and stuff

schestowitz[TR]

like neocities

highest_cubist_thrills

the point of the phone connection is to provide terminal access over a modem.

highest_cubist_thrills

the point of telnet is to do exactly the same over ip.

highest_cubist_thrills

so that brings you forward from "phones and modems"

highest_cubist_thrills

thats the first step.

highest_cubist_thrills

but i dont actually recommend telnet

highest_cubist_thrills

when bbs moved from phones to telnet-- it didnt stop being bbs

https://www.hackster.io/news/bringing-a-1980s-bbs-back-to-life-with-the-raspberry-pi-e487e2a2e2ee

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bringing a 1980s BBS Back to Life With the Raspberry Pi - Hackster.io

highest_cubist_thrills

it was practically the same thing.

highest_cubist_thrills

telnet and and ssh have even more in common than phone bbs and telnet bbs

*psydruid thinks it should be possible to implement a bbs clone using tls/ssh for the "modern" age

highest_cubist_thrills

people do provide services (not many) over ssh.

highest_cubist_thrills

its just modern telnet.

highest_cubist_thrills

so to say bbs over ssh isnt bbs is

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean its simply a fallacy

highest_cubist_thrills

its like saying cherry ice cream isnt ice cream

psydruid

nostalgia?

schestowitz[TR]

last releasE: last xmas: http://www.mysticbbs.com/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mysticbbs.com | Mystic BBS : Home

highest_cubist_thrills

bbs over telnet or phone is certainly more traditional

highest_cubist_thrills

but you can still do telnet if you want

highest_cubist_thrills

you dont want.

highest_cubist_thrills

so use something else. i recommend ssh because

Sep 25 15:56

highest_cubist_thrills

its basically modern telnet.

Sep 25 15:56

highest_cubist_thrills

set up a bbs server with m,enus and colours <- you realise that "colours" is just...

Sep 25 15:57

techrights-news

RELEASE: The Yoyo of Zonk gemini://kdx.smol.pub/tyoz-release-2022-09-25

Sep 25 15:57

highest_cubist_thrills

echo "\033[32m Hi Welcome to our BBS!"

highest_cubist_thrills

and "menus" is just

highest_cubist_thrills

get input from the keyboard and branch accordingly

highest_cubist_thrills

you could do it with a bash script and read.

highest_cubist_thrills

id prefer python, you could also use perl.

Sep 25 15:59

highest_cubist_thrills

theres your "bbs"

Sep 25 16:00

highest_cubist_thrills

http://mysticbbs.com/features.html <- "TELNET, RLOGIN, and SSH servers allowing up to 250 simultaneous terminal users"

Sep 25 16:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mysticbbs.com | Mystic BBS : Features

Sep 25 16:01

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"The oligarchs have spent decades abolishing or domesticating unions, turning the few unions that remain — only 10.7 percent of the workforce is unionized — into obsequious junior" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/19/chris-hedges-strike-strike-strike/

Sep 25 16:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chris Hedges: Strike, Strike, Strike – scheerpost.com

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highest_cubist_thrills

Embedded Python can be used to develop BBS modifications and games as an alternative to MPL

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean you could do mystic

highest_cubist_thrills

it sounds like a very complete package

Sep 25 16:04

highest_cubist_thrills

im not sure mystic is under a free license

Sep 25 16:05

MinceR

(cat) https://apina.biz/50614.jpg?mode=sfw

Sep 25 16:06

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Sep 25 16:06

techrights-news

API as a package: Logging https://www.jumpingrivers.com/blog/api-as-a-package-logging/

Sep 25 16:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jumpingrivers.com | API as a package: Logging

Sep 25 16:12

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"I’ll spare the details, but as I eluded to on Wednesday, stuff is rubbish right now. It’s the most challenging time since my late mum passed away, for a host of complicated or unavoidable reasons. At any given moment I’m desperate, upset, blue, or frustrated." https://rubenerd.com/how-minds-process-bad-news/

Sep 25 16:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: How minds process bad news

Sep 25 16:13

techrights-news

Gartner: Microsoft shills (and others' masquerading as "experts" when their real services are lying, lobbying, and ad hominem (mentioned in passing because some idiots still cite Gartner as if it's real advice) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group

Sep 25 16:16

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[PATCH v2 00/12] io-uring/btrfs: support async buffered writes - Stefan Roesch ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/20220908002616.3189675-1-shr@fb.com/ ䷉ Source: kernel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/20220908002616.3189675-1-shr@fb.com/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v2 00/12] io-uring/btrfs: support async buffered writes - Stefan Roesch

Sep 25 16:17

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"Or at least, what I look like if I deliver the prompt Jeff Geerling, realistic, photograph, sharp focus to Stable Diffusion, a machine learning, text-to-image model." So total BS? https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/jeff-geerling-stably-diffused

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"Infinite Fluidity shows an almost seamless transition between different concepts. Where does one concept end and where does a new one start? Using stable diffusion to illustrate and to stimulate reflection." https://provos.org/index.php?/archives/160-Inifite-Fluidity-with-Stable-Diffusion.html

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techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 16:20

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Sep 25 16:25

highest_cubist_thrills

Mystic BBS uses Cryptlib in order to perform the encryption for SSH and SSL-based servers and clients. This library will be automatically detected on server startup, or whenever an outbound SSH menu action is executed from the BBS itself.

Sep 25 16:26

highest_cubist_thrills

outbound SSH menu action

Sep 25 16:26

highest_cubist_thrills

Mystic BBS offers a SSH server that enables users to connect using securely using SSH to your BBS.

highest_cubist_thrills

so yeah, i think its safe to say that ssh-based bbs isnt a new idea.

techrights-news

Some new HTTP verbs https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/some-new-http-verbs/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | Some new HTTP verbs – Terence Eden’s Blog

highest_cubist_thrills

probably just the easiest way (other than using an existing product, if you can find one under a free license) to create a bbs in a way that gets around things like "i really dont want to use telnet"

Sep 25 16:28

techrights-news

"A few days ago I wrote a (now unpublished) article about how you can't express a certain problem I keep manuvering myself with Rust's lifetimes." http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2022/9/11/abstracting-over-ownership

highest_cubist_thrills

and you probably dont want to use telnet.

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lucumr.pocoo.org | You Can't Do That: Abstracting over Ownership in Rust with Higher-Rank Type Bounds. Or Can You? | Armin Ronacher's Thoughts and Writings

highest_cubist_thrills

but the option is there

techrights-news

"Whether you knew this or not, you probably did know that mobile phones work with the next best thing to magic, which is physics" http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/09/the-trouble-with-5g.html

Sep 25 16:30

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Sep 25 16:30

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"In short, there's very little to stop a malicious actor from creating fake vouchers or re-using duplicate ones. And your rival could attempt to bankrupt you by offering excessive discounts which you are then obliged to cover." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/my-shop-will-gladly-accept-a-rival-shops-discount-coupons/

Sep 25 16:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | My shop will gladly accept a competitor’s discount coupons – Terence Eden’s Blog

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Mozilla dropped the ball https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/01/impressions-on-chrome-brave/

Sep 25 16:33

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Sep 25 16:33

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"as George Carlin put it, people spending money they don’t have, on stuff they don’t need, to impress people they don’t like. How much of our economy would collapse overnight if people didn’t overextend themselves?" https://rubenerd.com/the-pushback-against-decluttering/

Sep 25 16:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: The pushback against decluttering

Sep 25 16:36

highest_cubist_thrills

It is important to understand that commands are not executed from bash when Mystic runs them, they are executing the system shell. In other words, if you want to test a command line you should test it accordingly outside of Mystic by executing: /bin/sh -c <Your command line here> to see if it works.

Sep 25 16:37

highest_cubist_thrills

In the Linux and macOS versions, Mystic automatically redirects the standard input and output of external programs, allowing many programs that are not even designed for BBSes to be used.

highest_cubist_thrills

a python program could do that as well

techrights-news

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsclick.in | Parliament Today: 3.92 Lakh Indians Gave up Citizenship in Past 3 Years, Says Govt | NewsClick

highest_cubist_thrills

for example, if you wanted a user to be able to edit a file

highest_cubist_thrills

you could call a separate program for that

schestowitz[TR]

interestiing, maybe something to look at over xmas/ny

Sep 25 16:39

highest_cubist_thrills

of course ive done it before. i first experimented with ssh-based bbs ten years ago

Sep 25 16:40

highest_cubist_thrills

usually when i have these ideas, unbeknownst to me, someone is already working on it.

highest_cubist_thrills

i thought it would be really cool to have cpus you could program to act like other cpus.

highest_cubist_thrills

fpgas were already being worked on.

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highest_cubist_thrills

i thought it would be really cool to have bbs over ssh

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highest_cubist_thrills

its been done.

Sep 25 16:42

highest_cubist_thrills

idk when the first one was, but i consider the idea obvious enough.

Sep 25 16:42

highest_cubist_thrills

ssh is just modern telnet.

Sep 25 16:42

techrights-news

"When you enable the GZip compression module in Apache, it will actually append a little “-gzip” suffix to the end of these generated hash values for the ETags." https://austingil.com/apache-gzip-etags-edge-compute/

Sep 25 16:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-austingil.com | Fixing Obscure Bugs: Apache, GZip, ETags, & Edge Compute

Sep 25 16:43

highest_cubist_thrills

note that to do ssh, mystic requires users to have an account and password

Sep 25 16:43

highest_cubist_thrills

thats probably the best way to do it, but the reason i mentioned the gemini service is that i believe its passwordless

schestowitz[TR]

ssh is different in its purpose

schestowitz[TR]

to a web site for instance

highest_cubist_thrills

youre thinking in terms of products, not technology

highest_cubist_thrills

its like im telling you that lasers can be used in surgery

schestowitz[TR]

it's like serving over ftp a webapp

schestowitz[TR]

it is doable

highest_cubist_thrills

and youre saying lasers are different, theyre for communications.

highest_cubist_thrills

well yeah, they can be.

schestowitz[TR]

ftp is for file sharing in some sense

highest_cubist_thrills

lets say i was you, and i wanted to make a bbs

schestowitz[TR]

but usually one-way, although it was common the have uploads in the old days

highest_cubist_thrills

the first thing i would do is make the text-only version of tr available by year / month / date / article

schestowitz[TR]

with bbs linking would be hard

schestowitz[TR]

it's not gemtexct

highest_cubist_thrills

i see what you mean

schestowitz[TR]

the articles have links in them

schestowitz[TR]

automating navigatioin for 24k posts would be hard

Sep 25 16:47

schestowitz[TR]

34k

Sep 25 16:47

schestowitz[TR]

and then i'[m not sure how well konsole deals with external (http) links

Sep 25 16:47

schestowitz[TR]

gopher has a file structure

Sep 25 16:48

schestowitz[TR]

also not great

Sep 25 16:48

highest_cubist_thrills

automating navigatioin for 24k posts would be hard <- not if theyre in folders by year / month / day

Sep 25 16:49

highest_cubist_thrills

but links would be very tricky

highest_cubist_thrills

because once you implement that, you have two issues

highest_cubist_thrills

i mean with a bbs everything is server side

highest_cubist_thrills

not client side

highest_cubist_thrills

so any links you go to would be fetched from YOUR server

highest_cubist_thrills

the technological way to do linking is trivial

highest_cubist_thrills

install elinks. but now... people can use elinks to go anywhere

highest_cubist_thrills

from YOUR server

highest_cubist_thrills

you could hack elinks to restrict it...

highest_cubist_thrills

but then, only to what?

highest_cubist_thrills

only to sites that tr links to?

highest_cubist_thrills

you see the issue there.

highest_cubist_thrills

personally i wouldnt bother supporting links

highest_cubist_thrills

id just make it so it said for example

highest_cubist_thrills

for linking to https://zdnet.co.uk

highest_cubist_thrills

it would literally just say:

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to zdnet.co.uk:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://zdnet.co.uk )

highest_cubist_thrills

https://zdnet.co.uk

highest_cubist_thrills

let the user worry about how to get to that address

highest_cubist_thrills

dont provide it as part of the bbs

highest_cubist_thrills

but for other articles

highest_cubist_thrills

you have a choice

highest_cubist_thrills

do you make it possible to navigate to other articles

highest_cubist_thrills

or do you simply give the year / month / day name

Sep 25 16:54

highest_cubist_thrills

bbs works best for information that is local

immibis_

highest_cubist_thrills: I'd be surprised if ssh *required* a password, though it is possible, what with the mandatory security theatre nowadays

highest_cubist_thrills

anything that takes you outside of the bbs...

highest_cubist_thrills

normally you log off the bbs first. thats traditional.

https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/countingsheep.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-countingsheep#comic )

highest_cubist_thrills

its also trivial to implement

Sep 25 16:56

highest_cubist_thrills

if you want your bbs to serve information from outside of itself, thats less trivial.

Sep 25 16:56

highest_cubist_thrills

maybe even foolish

Sep 25 16:56

highest_cubist_thrills

i dont doubt that someone has done it-- you may or may not want to. i think it would be a poor choice.

Sep 25 16:57

MinceR

Sep 25 16:57

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Sep 25 16:57

immibis_

apparently SSH supports PAM so you could use a dummy module that accepts everything

Sep 25 16:59

techrights-ipfs-bot

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▂▇▄▃▄▅▇▇▇▇▂█▃▇▅▁▁▃▂▅▂▁▃▁▅▅▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 25.68 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁▁▁█▁█▁█▁▁█▁▁▁██▁ avg(k/sec) 81.68▕ swarm size (avg): 122.36 ⟲

Sep 25 16:59

highest_cubist_thrills

thats less trivial. <- its easy to do

Sep 25 17:05

highest_cubist_thrills

but not so easy in a way that prevents your bbs from becoming a proxy to the entire web

Sep 25 17:06

highest_cubist_thrills

you can use wget -O- or curl or even urllib (the latter will disappoint you)

Sep 25 17:07

highest_cubist_thrills

you can even use a full text browser like elinks

Sep 25 17:07

highest_cubist_thrills

but everything is fetched from YOUR connection as well as the users

Sep 25 17:07

highest_cubist_thrills

so youre letting every user surf the web from your internet connection

Sep 25 17:09

highest_cubist_thrills

all the more reason to focus on things that are stored locally

Sep 25 17:09

highest_cubist_thrills

thats what bbs is traditionally for

Sep 25 17:09

highest_cubist_thrills

people also use bbs to create information

Sep 25 17:10

highest_cubist_thrills

so people can message each other on the system or participate in a "forum"

Sep 25 17:10

highest_cubist_thrills

this requires moderation

Sep 25 17:10

highest_cubist_thrills

otherwise you log on to the bbs and find that herr doctor has created stormfront bbs

Sep 25 17:11

highest_cubist_thrills

so do you want to make it so people can run forums? idk

Sep 25 17:11

highest_cubist_thrills

interaction between users is a pretty standard bbs feature

Sep 25 17:12

highest_cubist_thrills

but its not like theres a law that says bbs has to provide that

Sep 25 17:12

highest_cubist_thrills

once you understand that bbs is just a shell, and that most if not all features are server side

Sep 25 17:12

highest_cubist_thrills

you decide what features you want

Sep 25 17:13

highest_cubist_thrills

i doubt youll want outgoing links though.

Sep 25 17:13

highest_cubist_thrills

and im sure youd want it to do more than just be another tr mirror

Sep 25 17:14

highest_cubist_thrills

thats just a place to start

Sep 25 17:14

techrights-ipfs-bot

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immibis_

highest_cubist_thrills: see also MUDs

Sep 25 17:55

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 18:20

starstreak

immibis_, I was just playing Legend of the Red Dragon on a BBS

Sep 25 18:20

starstreak

i use bbses btw

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Sep 25 18:37

starstreak

sssssssssstarstreak

Sep 25 18:41

MinceR

do you know of a console file manager that can still handle zip files, unlike mc?

Sep 25 18:46

starstreak

Sep 25 18:48

MinceR

great

Sep 25 18:48

MinceR

i'm fucking sick of this IT industry

Sep 25 18:49

MinceR

and i'm fucking sick of humanity

Sep 25 18:49

starstreak

TIL that mc handles zip

Sep 25 18:50

starstreak

TIL that mc can explore the contents of a zip, and an iso inside of a zip

Sep 25 18:50

MinceR

it used to handle zip

Sep 25 18:53

starstreak

it still does

Sep 25 18:53

MinceR

now it either has the browser "download" it, or it just does nothing

Sep 25 18:53

starstreak

maybe you're missing a library or a plugin

Sep 25 18:54

starstreak

My version of mc is 4.8.28

Sep 25 18:55

MinceR

the uzip executable is right there

Sep 25 18:55

MinceR

zip and unzip are installed

Sep 25 18:55

starstreak

what version of mc?

Sep 25 18:56

starstreak

you can find out by going to help

Sep 25 18:56

MinceR

void's mc is 4.8.28_1, devuan's mc is 4.8.26

starstreak

i got 4.8.28 and mine handles zip

MinceR

maybe mc is like qemu and gnome now, and is being developed in reverse

starstreak

i was even able to explore the contents of an iso inside a zip

MinceR

"this week we'll break setting vnc passwords and zip handling"

starstreak

i think its user error, sorry to say

MinceR

yeah, you pressed the enter key in a slightly different angle

MinceR

i don't know what the fuck i expected of you

starstreak

lol

starstreak

maybe mc now depends on systemd-zip

techrights-ipfs-bot

▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▂▆▁▁▅▁▆▅▁▆▁▁▄▃▆▅▄▂▅▃▁▅▄▄▁▁▂▃▄▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 16.61 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▁██▁█▁▁▁▁▂██▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁█▁▁▁█▁▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 94.55▕ swarm size (avg): 112.38 ⟲

Sep 25 18:59

MinceR

and of course web search engines are also fucking useless now

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Sep 25 19:04

frog

midnight commander depends on GNU glib, and i do miss it, mc

Sep 25 19:09

MinceR

it wouldn't even start if i didn't have glib

Sep 25 19:09

MinceR

nnn and fff have the same idiotic behavior with zip files

Sep 25 19:10

frog

tried noice and nnn too, and then removed it... had to dig inside the sources, and found the quality was slightly irritating

Sep 25 19:10

starstreak

im guessing it has to do with xdg-open

MinceR

i'll have to set up a fucking VM with a GNU/Linux distro from 2000 so i can have tools that work at all

MinceR

yeah, "free"desktop people can go fuck themselves

MinceR

what i don't get is why these piles of shit insist on using xdg-open by default

starstreak

the latest mc does open zip files, just not on your system

Sep 25 19:12

MinceR

when at least one of them literally has a fucking VFS built in with zip support

Sep 25 19:12

starstreak

they started using xdg-open over 9 years ago

Sep 25 19:13

frog

midnight commander encourages a non-unix workflow, besides glib/gnu that's another problem

Sep 25 19:13

techrights-news

How to trigger services restart after OpenBSD update gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-reboot-syspatch.gmi

Sep 25 19:15

techrights-news

"I'm confident that motivation arrive at some point. I just need to distract myself until it does, and stop letting myself feeling bad about it." gemini://apintandaparma.club/~ajc/log/2022-09-25.gmi

MinceR

afaict i don't have an association for application/zip at all

highest_cubist_thrills

<MinceR> yeah, "free"desktop people can go fuck themselves <- if they did it would require more libraries than x, and they would still say its too much unmaintained/unmaintainable code

highest_cubist_thrills

funny how they always replace such things with more

MinceR

funny how "unmaintained" only bothers them when it isn't theirs

Sep 25 19:18

MinceR

meanwhile deadian has forced systemd on users for 7 years and it still doesn't fucking work properly

Sep 25 19:18

techrights-news

Pay For LibreOffice? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Hk6Sy90hnj4 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Hk6Sy90hnj4

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Pay For LibreOffice? - Invidious

MinceR

fedora has forced systemd on users for 11 years and it still doesn't fucking work properly

highest_cubist_thrills

meanwhile deadian has forced systemd on users for 7 years and it still doesn't fucking work properly <- debateable

highest_cubist_thrills

if not working properly is the actual point

highest_cubist_thrills

then its working EXTREMELY well

MinceR

what's the point of maintaining software, then?

techrights-ipfs-bot

highest_cubist_thrills

to make money for the third reich

MinceR

what's the point of whining about the code of /usr/bin/false not being changed every month?

MinceR

or maybe it's /bin/false

highest_cubist_thrills

its not about software, its about ca$h

frog

lol

MinceR

it's not about engineering, it's about propaganda and control

highest_cubist_thrills

ls: /bin/false: No such file or directory

highest_cubist_thrills

highest_cubist_thrills

oh ok

Sep 25 19:21

highest_cubist_thrills

/usr/bin/false

Sep 25 19:21

highest_cubist_thrills

/me didnt get much sleep

Sep 25 19:21

highest_cubist_thrills

The false utility always exits with a non-zero exit code.

highest_cubist_thrills

man false

highest_cubist_thrills

man false, another man ryse

techrights-news

Too much for "hello world" https://bkhome.org/news/202209/rust-hello-world-reduced-to-31kb.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Rust Hello World reduced to 31KB

highest_cubist_thrills

it's about propaganda and control <- but now its called free software

highest_cubist_thrills

thanks richard!

highest_cubist_thrills

join us now and share the propaganda

highest_cubist_thrills

youll be controlled, users! youll be... controllllllled!

highest_cubist_thrills

developers may have lots of source code, that is true, users, that is true

highest_cubist_thrills

but it will all be taken over by ibm

techrights-news

WSL is back door. AWS has back door. This isn't something you can secure. You're obviously clueless if you do this. https://kerneltalks.com/tools/securing-aws-credentials-in-wsl-using-aws-vault/

highest_cubist_thrills

evermore, users, evermore!

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kerneltalks.com | Securing AWS credentials in WSL using aws-vault - Kernel Talks

techrights-news

Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-09-26 Edition - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-in-past-week-2022-09-26/ ䷉ Source: Boiling Steam | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-in-past-week-2022-09-26/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-09-26 Edition - Boiling Steam

techrights-news

Get ready for a pink adventure https://www.scummvm.org/news/20220925/

Sep 25 19:25

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scummvm.org | ScummVM :: Home

Sep 25 19:25

techrights-news

course change for Kephra | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org] ⚓ http://blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/09/course-change-for-kephra.html ䷉ Source: Perl | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/09/course-change-for-kephra.html

Sep 25 19:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-course change for Kephra | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org]

Sep 25 19:26

frog

GNU has quality issues, beginning with their toolchain, buildsystem and the bootstrapping of it

techrights-news

Perl Weekly Challenge 182: Unique Array and Date Difference http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/09/perl-weekly-challenge-182-unique-array-and-date-difference.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl Weekly Challenge 182: Unique Array and Date Difference | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]

techrights-news

pgmoneta 0.6 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgmoneta-06-2514/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgmoneta 0.6

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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/systemd-support-is-now-available-in-wsl/

techrights-news

"The pgexporter community is happy to announce version 0.3.0." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgexporter-03-2513/

Sep 25 19:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgexporter 0.3

Sep 25 19:28

frog

today, by removing sudo/doas and re-implementing some suckless variant, i can remove yacc/bison

Sep 25 19:28

frog

just a tiny little piece, the dependencies of this

Sep 25 19:29

frog

in my tcc-toolchain devdrop build, there isn't any GNU bison anymore, since i removed doas utility

Sep 25 19:30

frog

full removal of autoconf/automake and any dependency which ships with a configure.ac is another huge milestone

Sep 25 19:31

techrights-news

➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): NewsFlash RSS Reader Has Been Ported to GTK 4 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/NewsFlash_RSS_Reader_Has_Been_Ported_to_GTK_4.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/NewsFlash_RSS_Reader_Has_Been_Ported_to_GTK_4.gmi ∎

Sep 25 19:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — NewsFlash RSS Reader Has Been Ported to GTK 4

Sep 25 19:31

frog

Sep 25 19:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devblogs.microsoft.com | Systemd support is now available in WSL! - Windows Command Line

Sep 25 19:32

frog

schestowitz[TR]: there is only one worse thing than MICROS~1, it is MICROS~1 being the copyright holder of GNU

Sep 25 19:32

techrights-news

➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): PostgreSQL: pgexporter 0.3 and pgmoneta 0.6 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/PostgreSQL_pgexporter_0_3_and_pgmoneta_0_6.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/PostgreSQL_pgexporter_0_3_and_pgmoneta_0_6.gmi ∎

Sep 25 19:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — PostgreSQL: pgexporter 0.3 and pgmoneta 0.6

Sep 25 19:33

techrights-news

➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎

Sep 25 19:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos

Sep 25 19:34

starstreak

I am prepared for Gnome 43: https://i.imgur.com/ymfjQdB.png

Sep 25 19:39

starstreak

I got an addon that let me add "Open in Gnome-Terminal"

Sep 25 19:40

MinceR

turns out there was something special about that zip file that made something decide "i know, i'll just run xdg-open on it, that's a good trick!"

Sep 25 19:42

starstreak

bad zip file?

MinceR

i made a simpler test file and it worked fine

MinceR

not really bad, far.exe opens it fine

MinceR

(except for all the error messages from wine fucking up the ui)

starstreak

told ya, mc does open zip

MinceR

i also made a 7z file and that works fine in mc

starstreak

nice

starstreak

7z is my favourite

MinceR

there's something deeply sick about this industry when the natural response to a VFS being unable to deal with a zip file is "hey, just open it with xdg-open"

Sep 25 19:44

techrights-news

LibreOffice Writer: Mail Merge Made Easy ⚓ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/libreoffice-writer-mail-merge-made-easy.html ䷉ Source: Ubuntubuzz | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/libreoffice-writer-mail-merge-made-easy.html

Sep 25 19:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | LibreOffice Writer: Mail Merge Made Easy

Sep 25 19:52

starstreak

i use netscape 3.04 btw: https://i.imgur.com/WDpbVrf.png

Sep 25 19:54

techrights-news

From one piece of spyware to another https://danielmiessler.com/blog/using-custom-searches-in-safari/

Sep 25 19:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | Using Custom Searches in Safari - Daniel Miessler

Sep 25 19:56

techrights-news

British Government Stops Properly Reporting How Many COVID-19 Patients Are Admitted to Hospital and Die (as Winter Approaches and Numbers Already Goes Up) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/25/no-data-no-problems/

techrights-news

➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LibreOffice Mail Merge and Fee ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/LibreOffice_Mail_Merge_and_Fee.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/LibreOffice_Mail_Merge_and_Fee.gmi ∎

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » British Government Stops Properly Reporting How Many COVID-19 Patients Are Admitted to Hospital and Die (as Winter Approaches and Numbers Already Goes Up)

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — LibreOffice Mail Merge and Fee

techrights-news

E52: Learnings from Chef & the Future of Open Source https://anchor.fm/ossstartuppodcast/episodes/E52-Learnings-from-Chef--the-Future-of-Open-Source-e1o4c0l

Sep 25 20:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anchor.fm | E52: Learnings from Chef & the Future of Open Source by Open Source Startup Podcast

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techrights-news

Perks? It's proprietary software, it's a prison, and it is controlled by criminals (Microsoft) https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/09/github-the-perks-of-collaboration-and-version-control/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub – The Perks of Collaboration and Version Control | R-bloggers

schestowitz[TR]

hi starstreak

schestowitz[TR]

you look like a teen now

starstreak

hi schestowitz[TR]

Sep 25 20:11

starstreak

i look like a teen?

Sep 25 20:11

schestowitz[TR]

starstreak_win311

schestowitz[TR]

early 90s... joke

starstreak

starstreak

win311 is more functional than fvwm

schestowitz[TR]

what are you doing on that virtual thing anyway? minesweeper?

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Sep 25 20:13

starstreak

i was fixing the sound card settings

Sep 25 20:13

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techrights-news

"We are proud to announce the first alpha release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.8.0." https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/09/23/first-alpha-release-of-powerdns-recursor-4-8-0/

Sep 25 20:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.powerdns.com | First Alpha Release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.8.0 | PowerDNS Blog

Sep 25 20:14

techrights-news

Why the Online News Act is a Bad Solution to a Real Problem, Part Four: Undermining Canadian Copyright Law and International Copyright Treaty Obligations https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/09/why-the-online-news-act-is-a-bad-solution-to-a-real-problem-part-four/

Sep 25 20:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | Why the Online News Act is a Bad Solution to a Real Problem, Part Four: Undermining Canadian Copyright Law and International Copyright Treaty Obligations - Michael Geist

Sep 25 20:15

techrights-news

"Per typical ROS-I meetings, it started with an update on general ROS-I open source project/program updates." https://rosindustrial.org/news/2022/9/22/fall-2022-ros-i-community-meeting-happenings

Sep 25 20:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rosindustrial.org | Fall 2022 ROS-I Community Meeting Happenings — ROS-Industrial

Sep 25 20:15

techrights-news

"Mandiant is tracking multiple self-proclaimed hacktivist groups working in support of Russian interests. These groups have primarily conducted distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks and leaked stolen data from victim organizations." https://www.mandiant.com/resources/blog/gru-rise-telegram-minions

Sep 25 20:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GRU: Rise of the (Telegram) MinIOns | Mandiant

Sep 25 20:18

techrights-news

liam_on_linux | On the strange joys of mainframe OSes and legacy tech that has survived into modern times ⚓ https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/86995.html ䷉ Source: Liam Proven | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/86995.html

Sep 25 20:19

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org | liam_on_linux | On the strange joys of mainframe OSes and legacy tech that has survived into modern times

Sep 25 20:19

techrights-news

➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎

Sep 25 20:20

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 20:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers

Sep 25 20:20

techrights-news

"This story was handed down to generations of economics students, despite the fact that there is no evidence for it. The basis for this story was pure reasoning: "What circumstances could have given us money?"" https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/16/nondiscretionary-liabilities/#quatloos

Sep 25 20:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 16 Sep 2022 Moneylike – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

Sep 25 20:23

techrights-news

"Here are my cynical thoughts about some common ones." https://xeiaso.net/blog/push-2fa-considered-harmful

starstreak

the network card was working but it was using the same IRQ as the sound card, so sound wasn't working

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xeiaso.net | Push notification two-factor auth considered harmful - Xe

techrights-news

A minimal distributed key-value database with Hashicorp's Raft library | notes.eatonphil.com ⚓ https://notes.eatonphil.com/minimal-key-value-store-with-hashicorp-raft.html ䷉ Source: Stefano Marinelli | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//notes.eatonphil.com/minimal-key-value-store-with-hashicorp-raft.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A minimal distributed key-value database with Hashicorp's Raft library | notes.eatonphil.com

MinceR

apparently starstreak uses a different windows, a different fvwm or both from the ones i know

Sep 25 20:25

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techrights-news

"For those who haven’t heard of him, D.B. Cooper, as the press dubbed him, successfully hijacked a Boeing 727 in 1971, and parachuted out the plane’s rear airstairs mid-flight with millions of dollars. The man, and most of the money, have never been found." https://rubenerd.com/pg-morgan-discusses-db-cooper/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: P.G. Morgan’s insights into D.B. Cooper

techrights-news

"To uncover the answers to these questions requires intelligence collection and analysis." https://gru.gq/2022/09/17/quantified-failure/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gru.gq | Quantified Failure

techrights-news

For dumb, gullible, insecure, 'consumers' https://staceyoniot.com/adding-smarts-to-a-garage-door-isnt-always-ideal/

Sep 25 20:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-staceyoniot.com | Adding smarts to a garage door isn't always ideal - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis

Sep 25 20:27

techrights-news

Sadly, Debian outsourced the CI to it, so the NSA has leverage over Debian now https://matt-rickard.com/google-infra-for-everyone-else

Sep 25 20:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Google Infra For Everyone Else in 2022

Sep 25 20:28

techrights-news

Making Web site based on the false assumption everyone is a dumb consumer with "Apple"-branded PC https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/font-family-and-supports/

Sep 25 20:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | Font Family and @supports - Jim Nielsen’s Blog

Sep 25 20:29

techrights-news

"I got a Ledger Nano X hardware cryptocurrency wallet." Sounds like a bunch of bullshit tbh. https://xeiaso.net/blog/trying-to-use-security-token

Sep 25 20:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xeiaso.net | My new, weird smartcard and how I learned to use it - Xe

Sep 25 20:30

techrights-news

"There may even be a return of support for big-endian, at least for 64-bit Power (32-bit Power to be considered), as well as Chimera's core support for ppc64le, aarch64 and x86_64 (with 64-bit RISC-V coming)." https://www.talospace.com/2022/09/void-ppc-goes-chimera-and-bust.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Void PPC goes Chimera (and bust)

techrights-news

Authenticated SMTP and IMAP authentication attacks and attempts we see here https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/AuthSMTPAndIMAPAttemptsHere

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/AuthSMTPAndIMAPAttemptsHere

starstreak

MinceR, thats fair, i used fvwm on openbsd

starstreak

i actually went looking for screenshots of fvwm and it looks like you can configure it to look like anything

starstreak

thats pretty swank

MinceR

not just look like anything

MinceR

behavior is also very configurable

MinceR

for example, i put a resize button in the top left corner (in the title bar)

techrights-news

"It warns that bulk retention may reveal “habits of everyday life, permanent or temporary places of residence, daily or other movements, the activities carried out, the social relationships of those persons and the social environments frequented by them”." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-ruling-lets-free-europe-from-mass-surveillance-and-general-suspicion/

Sep 25 20:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Data retention ruling: Let’s free Europe from mass surveillance and general suspicion! – Patrick Breyer

Sep 25 20:33

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techrights-news

Queen Elizabeth and King Rupert: seven decades of exercising soft power and hard https://michaelwest.com.au/queen-elizabeth-and-king-rupert-seven-decades-of-exercising-soft-power-and-hard/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Queen Elizabeth and King Rupert: seven decades of exercising soft power and hard - Michael West

starstreak

MinceR, yeah thats pretty cool tbh

techrights-news

"I’ll be turning my attention to the Prohibition Orcs copyedits next. Then it’s back to the Epic Giant Fiction Project, and another tech book, title TBA." https://mwl.io/archives/22303

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mwl.io | “OpenBSD Mastery: Filesystems” draft done! – Michael W Lucas

techrights-news

"My brain is going offline until next Tuesday to show respect during the Necroqueen's procession into the Western Lands." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/09/necroqueen.html

Sep 25 20:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.antipope.org | Necroqueen! - Charlie's Diary

Sep 25 20:37

techrights-news

Microsoft is not social. Proprietary software is NOT social. CRIME IS NOT SOCIAL. https://matt-rickard.com/social-coding

Sep 25 20:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Social Coding

Sep 25 20:38

techrights-news

"GitLab, which among other things, is GitHub but de-emphasizes the social features – it's more likely to be deployed on-prem and overall has significantly fewer consumer public users and projects. GitLab's current market cap is $8.5b (GitHub was acquired by Microsoft in 2019 for $7.5b)." https://matt-rickard.com/social-coding

Sep 25 20:39

techrights-news

"split-overlap.py is a tool to split a binary file in parts of a given size." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/18/new-tool-split-overlap-py/

Sep 25 20:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.didierstevens.com | New Tool: split-overlap.py | Didier Stevens

Sep 25 20:39

techrights-news

Disentangling the Facts From the Hype of Quantum Computing https://spectrum.ieee.org/ieee-quantum-week

Sep 25 20:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Disentangling the Facts From the Hype of Quantum Computing - IEEE Spectrum

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techrights-news

It's Just a Tarball https://matt-rickard.com/its-just-a-tarball

Sep 25 20:41

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | It's Just a Tarball

Sep 25 20:41

techrights-news

Earthquakes seem to come in a more predictable pattern than we thought https://www.newscientist.com/article/2334746-earthquakes-seem-to-come-in-a-more-predictable-pattern-than-we-thought/

Sep 25 20:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | Earthquakes seem to come in a more predictable pattern than we thought | New Scientist

Sep 25 20:43

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], I just recompiled the Opus binaries. Things haven't changed much since 1.3.1 was out as far as the CELT/SILK encoder goes.

Sep 25 20:46

DaemonFC

Almost all of the recent improvements have been minor and on the SILK layer, which you generally don't use at bitrates appropriate for music.

Sep 25 20:46

DaemonFC

If you'll be using it for speech coding, perhaps you'd build from latest git.

Sep 25 20:47

DaemonFC

I think at this point it really mostly is what it is and does what it does.

Sep 25 20:48

DaemonFC

It reached that point faster than MP3 did. Probably because the MP3 format was so poorly designed and the attempt was to obscure how it really worked to the greatest extent possible while still getting an ISO standard.

Sep 25 20:49

DaemonFC

Like Microsoft Office.

Sep 25 20:49

DaemonFC

Which mjg59_'s friend still praises even though Microsoft got rid of him.

Sep 25 20:49

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Sep 25 20:52

DaemonFC

I'm still glad that I could help the effort to reverse engineer MP3 and undermine FhG's attempts to sell software encoders. It became obvious that people were going to use it and the least we could do was make the best of the format to sabotage FhG's revenue on the encoder side. If nobody developed Free alternatives that anyone wanted to use it would have given FhG many millions in additional revenue and the pirates would have been happy to use

Sep 25 20:54

DaemonFC

whatever software they could get their hands on to proliferate the format, exactly like the RAR problem.

Sep 25 20:54

DaemonFC

That probably would have been the Thomson encoders for extensions that never caught on, which of course had modes to create normal MP3s.

Sep 25 20:54

DaemonFC

We saw this happen with AAC.

Sep 25 20:55

DaemonFC

Not having a good Free alternative didn't lead to a complete rejection of the format. There are still people downloading Nero's abandoned proprietary encoder and making new ones with that.

Sep 25 20:55

DaemonFC

So I think you come down too harshly on what LibreOffice is doing with MS XML.

schestowitz[TR]

ooml

schestowitz[TR]

moox

DaemonFC

If nobody was implementing MSXML then people would still use it. They'd just resort to paying Microsoft for it, or figuring out how to crack a proprietary program that could deal with them, which Microsoft is also okay with because marketshare.

schestowitz[TR]

there is no ms xml

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], We should refuse to call it what they want us to, I think.

schestowitz[TR]

OOXML

DaemonFC

If you call it OOXML, it just helps their "open" propaganda work.

schestowitz[TR]

ohoh

DaemonFC

There's nothing open about it.

schestowitz[TR]

they don't call it that

schestowitz[TR]

they calll it openxml

DaemonFC

They want to muddy the waters with "language".

techrights-news

"I don't feel as strongly as the authors do about RSS, although I've collected my thoughts on RSS." https://matt-rickard.com/standards-protocols-platforms

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Standards, Protocols, and Platforms

DaemonFC

Instead, we should provide a short explainer at the top and then refuse to go along with their language.

techrights-news

"screening could be much broader, for example it could be used to suppress political debate or to target opposition figures, journalists and human rights defenders." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/un-human-rights-commissioner-warns-against-chat-control/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | UN Human Rights Commissioner warns against chat control – Patrick Breyer

techrights-ipfs-bot

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Sep 25 20:59

DaemonFC

Calling "OOXML" open is like calling rape "sex that is wanted" because the rapist wants it.

Sep 25 20:59

DaemonFC

From a certain angle, saying rape is wanted sex is correct, because the person committing the crime wants it. And from the same sort of angle, MS OOXML is open.

techrights-news

Getting several pieces of MALWARE from MICROSOFT at the same time https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/09/npm-concurrently/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-geshan.com.np | How to run multiple NPM commands simultaneously using concurrently

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XVIII — The Story of NPM | Techrights

DaemonFC

You can abuse language to mislead all you care to if you're willing to find ways to redefine things.

techrights-news

"With the highest level of credentials available, they then got effective root access to Slack, AWS, Google Suite, and active directory at Uber." https://cendyne.dev/posts/2022-09-19-a-few-thoughts-about-ubers-breach.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cendyne.dev | A few thoughts about Uber's breach

techrights-news

"Specifically most features I care about can be provided by systemd parameters and the reproducibility by NixOS." https://blog.viraptor.info/post/why-use-docker-for-a-home-server

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.viraptor.info | Why use docker for a home server?

DaemonFC

I generally try not to use any words or meanings that were not in the dictionary around 2000 or so because the English language is being corrupted for leftist wokeism and mental retardation by faux-liberal trolls like mjg59_ and children who can hardly speak in complete sentences and cannot read cursive.

Sep 25 21:02

techrights-news

"Problem solved! No data, no problems! The numbers thus ‘go down’…" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/25/no-data-no-problems/

Sep 25 21:02

schestowitz[TR]

'secure' boot

schestowitz[TR]

let's digest

schestowitz[TR]

what is it?

schestowitz[TR]

what does it do?

schestowitz[TR]

what do the words mean?

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

starting with boot

schestowitz[TR]

you power on a machine

DaemonFC

These people think that instead of teaching history they can just inflict their sex perversions on children then complain when people protest and withdraw their kids from public indoctrination centers. ("school")

schestowitz[TR]

the broad kickstarts at some embedded hardware/sofwtare level

schestowitz[TR]

the SOFTWARE is UEFI

schestowitz[TR]

on top of it there is some pile of shit

schestowitz[TR]

and you assume it does what it says on the tin

schestowitz[TR]

usually it does not

schestowitz[TR]

like ms dfoes not implement ooxml

schestowitz[TR]

nobody impelemts it

schestowitz[TR]

not even microsoft

schestowitz[TR]

security?

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

checking hashes

schestowitz[TR]

that's not secuity

schestowitz[TR]

who checks it

DaemonFC

I don't blame people for withdrawing their children from public "school". If I had children, *I* would rather try to find money to send them to Catholic school before I'd turn them loose on the ShitCongo teachers union.

schestowitz[TR]

against whose table?

schestowitz[TR]

can a cracker change that table?

schestowitz[TR]

so it's not boot

immibis_

secure boot is when the boot rom checks the next stage of boot, basically, against anything whatsoever

DaemonFC

Where they're more likely to get syphilis and drop out than anything good.

schestowitz[TR]

it's not secure

schestowitz[TR]

the whole thing is a misnomer

immibis_

DaemonFC: not everyone you dislike is a pedophile

schestowitz[TR]

FSF dubbed it restricted boot

schestowitz[TR]

that's too polite

immibis_

and take it to #techpol

DaemonFC

If you want your children to even have a chance at an education you need to withdraw them from public school and take a voucher.

immibis_

secure boot can secure you better against evil maid attacks - if you set it up yourself - but then companies realize they can make you the maid

DaemonFC

Or move to a state where you can.

DaemonFC

That's how bad it's gotten.

schestowitz[TR]

immibis_: but that is not what's happening

schestowitz[TR]

it's like saying a tank can protect you

immibis_

there's no technical difference between: the computer was at a lenovo office because it belongs to them, and you have it now because you stole it, and: the computer was at a lenovo office because they make computers, and you have it now because you bought it

schestowitz[TR]

when tanks most fire like mortars

schestowitz[TR]

*mostly

DaemonFC

<immibis_> DaemonFC: not everyone you dislike is a pedophile

schestowitz[TR]

OEMs doesn't help you control 'secure' boot

schestowitz[TR]

it's wired to be controlled remoately by Microsot

DaemonFC

Gates is advocating borderline pedophilia at public schools on NPR.

immibis_

there are a minority of devices which ship with secure boot in a blank state and you can impose your own restrictions on your hardware

DaemonFC

You can't just give it to them all at once.

schestowitz[TR]

and lenovo already takes it to the "next tage"

schestowitz[TR]

like we wanred 9 years ago

DaemonFC

Just the tip.....to start out.

DaemonFC

immibis_

DaemonFC: not everyone you dislike is a pedophile

DaemonFC

Bill Gates is a pedophile and a monster.

DaemonFC

He associates with many others who are as bad or worse.

immibis_

DaemonFC: not everyone you dislike is a pedophile

DaemonFC

He built an entire criminal organization around people like this, so that he can control them with blackmail.

starstreak

immibis_, +1

mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]: No, it doesn't compare hashes

mjg59_

And nor can it be remotely controlled by Microsoft

immibis_

many people think DaemonFC is a pedophile because he fucks other men. That opinion is indistinguishable from DaemonFC's opinion

DaemonFC

Once that criminal organization got a lot of money, it used the money to buy people like mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]

it can

schestowitz[TR]

they updateee the tables

immibis_

it depends on the device

schestowitz[TR]

a bootkit can too

MinceR

it phones home to update itself

schestowitz[TR]

happened before

schestowitz[TR]

anyway, you go onlecturing me with sematic tricks

mjg59_

The firmware cannot update its own revocation list

MinceR

to find out what keys were revoked by the unelected guardians of the PC OS market

immibis_

the simplest form of secure boot is that you can set configuration fuses to hard-code a bootloader hash, which the boot ROM then checks

mjg59_

You can apply updates or ask your OS to apply updates

MinceR

no problem, just accidentally boot Backdoors or systemd once on it

DaemonFC

Now he won't criticize rapists, stranglers, pedos, and people who batter immigrants if they're Microsoft-affiliated. mjg59_ won't. If he changes his opinion on that, I'd respect him a lot more.

MinceR

and it will lock anything out that the redmond mafia doesn't want you to run

DaemonFC

Or at least confirms that he disapproves of what's going on in there.

schestowitz[TR]

biab

MinceR

because UEFI wasn't fragile enough on its own

MinceR

it's not like it's likely to crash upon seeing certain efivars before you could even enter setup... oh wait, yes it is

techrights-news

"Since CentOS has effectively imploded, we are going to need to replace that machine with some other distribution before the middle of 2024, and the default choice is Ubuntu." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SELinuxNeedsDistroBuyin

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SELinuxNeedsDistroBuyin

DaemonFC

mjg59_, Why won't you criticize, publicly, rapists, stranglers, pedos, and people who batter immigrants who work at Microsoft and their fully owned subsidiaries such as Bethesda and GitHub? On the record. Can you do that?

techrights-news

"Unfortunately, it still stinks, and the problem is its "enterprise" culture." https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/19/java-cultural-problem/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alexn.org | Java's Cultural Problem - Alexandru Nedelcu

DaemonFC

Don't wait for the translation! I want an answer now!

DaemonFC

(Said the US ambassador to the Russian one during the Cuban Missile Crisis.)

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> The firmware cannot update its own revocation list

Sep 25 21:12

DaemonFC

So you do plug a backdoor by disabling LVFS? Thanks for admitting that.

Sep 25 21:12

DaemonFC

Microsoft can't blacklist your GRUB and fuck up your computer remotely without LVFS enabled.

Sep 25 21:12

techrights-news

The Feeling of Fast | LINUX Unplugged 477 "We finally give Brent his new laptop and get his reaction. Plus our best pick for replacing stock Android with something private." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8855

Sep 25 21:13

MinceR

what's LVFS?

Sep 25 21:14

DaemonFC

Linux Vendor Firmware Service

DaemonFC

It's how Microsoft reaches in and blacklists versions of GRUB they don't want you to use.

DaemonFC

It's supposed to happen without you knowing it.

DaemonFC

mjg59_ obviously knows that.

DaemonFC

The firmware updates from your OEM contain the latest one as of that firmware release, but Microsoft can reach in and flash over that part of the UEFI firmware through LVFS.

Sep 25 21:16

DaemonFC

Using GNOME Software.

Sep 25 21:16

schestowitz[TR]

now he thinks of how to bash you

schestowitz[TR]

using some non-tech angle

schestowitz[TR]

figosdev says he tries to understand us

schestowitz[TR]

that's correct

schestowitz[TR]

he wants to find some edge or angle to attack us

schestowitz[TR]

brb

schestowitz[TR]

posting daily links

schestowitz[TR]

will record 5 videos tonight

schestowitz[TR]

if plan pursued fully

Sep 25 21:18

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Information Commissioner cuffed for withholding information - Michael West

mjg59_

"Can reach in"

mjg59_

This is literally untrue

techrights-ipfs-bot

Sep 25 21:20

techrights-news

Qantas board gets priorities straight - its own pay - as Alan Joyce edges towards $8.7m package <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Michael West Media" href="https://michaelwest.com.au/qantas-alan-joyce-edges-towards-8-7m-package/">Read on</a>

Sep 25 21:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Qantas board gets priorities straight - its own pay - as Alan Joyce edges towards $8.7m package

Sep 25 21:20

DaemonFC

What else would you call reaching into the firmware using a backdoor planted into systemd? (I believe LVFS tied into systemd.)

techrights-news

"Durden is a program that identifies, counts and, optionally, marks and/or cuts out and saves unique tiles in a given image file." https://www.datagubbe.se/durden/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Durden | datagubbe.se

mjg59_

No, LVFS is unrelated to systemd

MinceR

clever name

DaemonFC

If you have a better way of describing binary implants in your UEFI from Microsoft using a backdoor then I'd looooooove to hear it.

mjg59_

What "backdoor"

techrights-news

"So-called electricity markets were created to help private capital, not people. It is time we wound up these bogus markets and returned public services to people, to run cooperatively for their benefit." https://www.newsclick.in/when-market-fundamentalism-overcomes-common-sense-myth-electricity-markets

DaemonFC

Or why anyone would want to lose the ability to run "exploits" in case they ever need to jailbreak their own computer to gain control over it from Microsoft.

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsclick.in | When Market Fundamentalism Overcomes Common Sense: Myth of Electricity Markets | NewsClick

techrights-news

“Having a monarchy next door is a little like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and has daubed their house with clown murals, displays clown dolls in each window and has an insatiable desire to hear about and discuss clown-related news stories,” Patrick Freyne wrote https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/12/chris-hedges-monarchs-belong-in-the-dustbin-of-history/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chris Hedges: Monarchs Belong in the Dustbin of History – scheerpost.com

DaemonFC

That is what will be necessary someday when "Secure Boot Off" is disabled and you can't change that. All you're left with is looking for exploits.

DaemonFC

Like the Surface RT.

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: lcfs and systemd are controlled by microsaoft and icbm

schestowitz[TR]

but they are not mutually related other than thattttt

schestowitz[TR]

(barrier restarting...)

DaemonFC

The Surface RT never got important, so other than an exploit being found to jailbreak it, nobody ever did port GNU/Linux to it.

DaemonFC

Because Microsoft gave up and left its customers who bought into the platform to rot.

Sep 25 21:24

schestowitz[TR]

long tradition

Sep 25 21:24

DaemonFC

They lost their entire "investment" if they bought Surface RT based on blogspam from people like Chris eye exam chart on ZDNet and Paul Thurrott.

Sep 25 21:24

schestowitz[TR]

they also burn people

schestowitz[TR]

they use and discard them

DaemonFC

"Chris egbrggruwruhghueghuhzynski" or whatever that really random cat on keyboard polack name is.

DaemonFC

What an idiot.

schestowitz[TR]

btw, gnu is 39 in 26 hours

schestowitz[TR]

lasting that long in SOFTWARE is rare

schestowitz[TR]

zdnet will die in a year or a few

schestowitz[TR]

its' already on its last foot

schestowitz[TR]

few writers left

schestowitz[TR]

'skeleton crew'

DaemonFC

I'm starting to honestly believe you could use Polack surnames instead of /dev/random for cryptographically secure seed values. (j/k)

techrights-news

Difficult times for people's mental state https://rubenerd.com/sitting-outside-with-a-coffee/

Sep 25 21:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Sitting outside with a coffee

Sep 25 21:27

DaemonFC

ZDNet Blogspam: Hi, I'm Chris dghougwhuoghguwuhhugeuhzynski here to talk about McDonalds using IBM AI with Microsoft Teams.

Sep 25 21:27

techrights-news

"What's the best alternative for performance-critical software? A few options: Zig, Rust, Carbon, or C++." https://matt-rickard.com/rust-vs-c

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://matt-rickard.com/rust-vs-c )

schestowitz[TR]

HEY HI, chris!

AdmFubar

you can use names of new medicines for seed values :P most of them are starting to look like randomly generated passwords

DaemonFC

Did you know that you could pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Ronald McDonald and to the Big Mac for which he stands if you put an RFID sticker on your windshield to enable IBM AI, mjg59_?

schestowitz[TR]

chris: o u!!

DaemonFC

It's true!

mjg59_

Oh cool a new and exciting racial slur

Sep 25 21:29

schestowitz[TR]

racial?

Sep 25 21:29

mjg59_

21:25 < DaemonFC> "Chris egbrggruwruhghueghuhzynski" or whatever that really random cat on keyboard polack name is.

Sep 25 21:30

techrights-news

Self-legitimising elaborate scam https://blog.dshr.org/2022/09/white-house-statement-on-cryptcurrency.html

Sep 25 21:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: White House Statement On Cryptocurrency Regulation

DaemonFC

I also make fun of Irish people to about the same extent and a significant number of my ancestors came from there.

DaemonFC

What's your point?

schestowitz[TR]

making fun of names

schestowitz[TR]

thick-skinned people make fun of their own names

schestowitz[TR]

like I habitually do

schestowitz[TR]

we need an adult society

schestowitz[TR]

not softies

mjg59_

My point is that "Polack" is a racial slur

starstreak

mjg59_, nobody has any problems with DaemonFC's racism and transphobia

Sep 25 21:32

schestowitz[TR]

it is a common surname

Sep 25 21:32

mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]: He's not using it in the context of it being a surname

Sep 25 21:32

mjg59_

He's using it in the manner it's most commonly used, as a derogatory reference to people of Polish descent

Sep 25 21:33

DaemonFC

Chris EGegwgwgihguwghghwuguhwicz's articles on ZDNet suck.

Sep 25 21:34

DaemonFC

If mjg59_ wants bad journalism, he should go there.

Sep 25 21:34

techrights-news

New clothing for an old scam https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/9/263803-these-are-not-the-apes-you-are-looking-for/fulltext

Sep 25 21:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | These Are Not the Apes You Are Looking For | September 2022 | Communications of the ACM

Sep 25 21:35

schestowitz[TR]

zdnet advertised fake security

schestowitz[TR]

still does

schestowitz[TR]

and the person there who criticised usi 'secure' boot?

schestowitz[TR]

GOT THE BOOT

schestowitz[TR]

jamie

HEY HI https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd02df17-39cf-488a-8c93-773777fc50f0_513x679.jpeg

DaemonFC

mjg59_, Defender of Polacks everywhere, including their Ward in Chicago which is the only bastion of Trumpism in the whole damned city.

Sep 25 21:37

DaemonFC

How awesome is mjg59_? Right? This guy!

Sep 25 21:37

techrights-news

Sep 25 21:37

techrights-news

Why Javascript is Retarded: Part 1 https://lunduke.substack.com/p/why-javascript-is-retarded-part-1

Sep 25 21:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | Why Javascript is Retarded: Part 1 - by Bryan Lunduke

Sep 25 21:38

DaemonFC

Trans: I just don't understand. Polacks: I really wish I didn't. They act in Chicago the exact same way they act in their own godforsaken Nazi country.

Sep 25 21:39

schestowitz[TR]

today rianne opned firefgox

Sep 25 21:39

schestowitz[TR]

instead of librewold

Sep 25 21:39

schestowitz[TR]

firefox started spamming more and more

schestowitz[TR]

it's turning firefox users into social media

schestowitz[TR]

after hiring managers from facebook

schestowitz[TR]

each open tab is a sea of "recommended" (spammed) articles

schestowitz[TR]

they run ads and promotions

schestowitz[TR]

for fees

schestowitz[TR]

and put a social media in the tab

schestowitz[TR]

it's gross

schestowitz[TR]

I might delete firefox compltely soon

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Telling us what we want to hear - Big Tech's privacy lies

schestowitz[TR]

firefox became dumpster FIREfox

Sep 25 21:41

schestowitz[TR]

same brand

Sep 25 21:41

mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]: I mean you can see that he's not using it as a surname, right?

Sep 25 21:41

schestowitz[TR]

different product

schestowitz[TR]

you want me to make you irckkkop

schestowitz[TR]

so you can play police?

DaemonFC

Nazis literally took over the Polish government and then passed a law making it illegal to deny that any Polack ever helped the Nazis commit the Holocaust. Which, some did do.

techrights-news

Usually you should do the OPPOSITE of what this guy says https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/12581.html

Sep 25 21:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diziet.dreamwidth.org | diziet | Please vote in favour of the Debian Social Contract change

Sep 25 21:43

mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]: I'm asking you whether it's acceptable to use racial slurs in this IRC channel that you run

schestowitz[TR]

go make your own network

DaemonFC

Polish people are white.

schestowitz[TR]

and get a parade os weirdos in it

schestowitz[TR]

you and 2 people at most

schestowitz[TR]

and then you will find a reason to ban them, too

mjg59_

If I say "Roy Schestowitz accepts the use of racial slurs in the IRC channel he controls", would I be lying?

DaemonFC

You're literally attacking me for making it known I don't like a country governed by a Nazi Party that comes here and votes for Donald Trump. Thank you, mjg59_

schestowitz[TR]

you should say you stalk 4 channels in a netywork

schestowitz[TR]

24/7

schestowitz[TR]

a network with 1.5 MB of logs per day

DaemonFC

A country full of other white people.

schestowitz[TR]

and you scan it for dirt

schestowitz[TR]

so people know you are mentally depraved

techuser

mjg59_: yes. We need free speech places. SJW hordes kill everyone.

mjg59_

techuser: Which bit is a lie?

techuser

oh, I misunderstood the question

techuser

actually, the opposite

techuser

not lying

DaemonFC

mjg59_, Defender of white Nazis.

DaemonFC

Aww snap.

DaemonFC

They need him for muscle.

DaemonFC

Things must be getting more desperate for them than I thought.

techuser

these hordes trash once-good places

techrights-news

Fighting Disinformation: We're Solving The Wrong Problems https://rys.io/en/161.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rys.io | Fighting Disinformation: We're Solving The Wrong Problems | Songs on the Security of Networks

techuser

nothing is left behind

techuser

they are monsters which look good

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC can be racist

schestowitz[TR]

i don't agree with it

schestowitz[TR]

but...

DaemonFC

Polish isn't a race.

DaemonFC

It's a nationality.

schestowitz[TR]

he writes spo-on technical things sometimes

schestowitz[TR]

also:

schestowitz[TR]

a person who works for IBM

techuser

will this place be trashed by SJWs too?

schestowitz[TR]

is doing far more harm

schestowitz[TR]

than one who says "kike"

schestowitz[TR]

or "polack"

techuser

in the near future

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

they are bored and miseerable

schestowitz[TR]

look for something to ruins

DaemonFC

I would never say "kike". That's a bridge too far, schestowitz[TR]. The Jews have been through enough.

schestowitz[TR]

*ruin

schestowitz[TR]

notice how the subejct changed

schestowitz[TR]

it was non-secure boot

schestowitz[TR]

and now mjg59_ shifted it to racist

DaemonFC

Mostly at the hands of Germans and Polacks.

schestowitz[TR]

next time he mighht change the subject to sex

schestowitz[TR]

because secure bot is... sexy

mjg59_

I think the fault there might lie with the person who started using racial slurs, not the person who pointed it out

techuser

some people need to literally shoot the SJW hordes. IIRC some people threatened to do it already during BLM protests.

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> I think the fault there might lie with the person who started using racial slurs, not the person who pointed it out

techuser

it is a cancer on society

DaemonFC

Do you agree I have a legitimate grievance with the Polish community in Chicago?

DaemonFC

If not, why not?

starstreak

Fedora had a sexy UEFI logo

schestowitz[TR]

unabomber was of polish roots

schestowitz[TR]

and few can read his name

schestowitz[TR]

it's a common issue

schestowitz[TR]

their names don't "trsnslate" wel into english

schestowitz[TR]

a known problem

DaemonFC

It's not all Polish people that are bad, just the majority of them.

DaemonFC

Their voting habits lay that out.

mjg59_

There's no level of legitimate grievance that justifies the use of racial slurs

DaemonFC

Polish isn't a race.

schestowitz[TR]

cannot make irish jokes, either

schestowitz[TR]

ban comedy

schestowitz[TR]

then, ban irc

schestowitz[TR]

then, ban librewolf and brave users

schestowitz[TR]

ban www

schestowitz[TR]

promote fb instead

DaemonFC

Welp, if I can't make fun of Irish people, there go all of the drunk and disorderly jokes. Including about Gonad's family.

schestowitz[TR]

and assign confused people as moderated, with HEY HI

DaemonFC

Most of the meth lab ones too.

DaemonFC

What the hell can I make jokes about?

schestowitz[TR]

mr. "fartfartfartfart" is lecturing us on matters

*schestowitz[TR] goes back to more important tasks

schestowitz[TR]

*manners

DaemonFC

I wonder if mjg59_ has ever been in trouble with the police and whether they were niggardly with the paddywagon.

techrights-news

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DaemonFC

He probably doesn't resort to any actual civil disobedience. He's a pushover for the 1% to play with.

MinceR

mjg59_: and what isn't justified should be banned, right?

Sep 25 21:54

techrights-news

Java 19 https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/21/java-19/ "I haven’t been as excited about a Java release in a long time."

Sep 25 21:54

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Sep 25 21:54

schestowitz[TR]

MinceR: better not feed him

schestowitz[TR]

it's a technial channel

schestowitz[TR]

he is trying to change the subject]

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

he was losing the argument again

MinceR

i'm just curious about his values

schestowitz[TR]

oin secure boot

DaemonFC

mjg59_, is almost like what Richard Stallman was talking about. When that Indian man who was interviewing him said Congress were billionaires, and RMS corrected him and said Congress was millionaires, most of them. The billionaires used them and they got rich, but it was millions, not billions. mjg59_ is like Congress.

MinceR

because this seems to be a pretty extreme position

schestowitz[TR]

his values are fart fart fart fart sexual fetish

schestowitz[TR]

ie.. lots of hot air

schestowitz[TR]

or warm air

psydruid

why does *he* always try to steer the conversation away from technical matters?

Sep 25 21:56

schestowitz[TR]

this is why he was muted last year

Sep 25 21:56

DaemonFC

mjg59_, "I create Free Software....." Also mjg59_, "But you can't actually make derivative works and run it because of what it actually is and does.". It's meant to take your computer away and hand control of it over to criminals and mobsters.

psydruid

I would mute him forever

DaemonFC

I need civics lessons from HIM on the day that Satan ice skates to work.

schestowitz[TR]

DaemonFC: yes, contradiction

schestowitz[TR]

big fat contradictiopn

mjg59_

MinceR: I think a community that tolerates racists is one that excludes many other potential contributors

schestowitz[TR]

sorry, let me rephrase that

schestowitz[TR]

I've just insulted "not thin" peopole

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> MinceR: I think a community that tolerates racists is one that excludes many other potential contributors

schestowitz[TR]

mjg59_: so stop being racist

DaemonFC

Then why does every project infested with a CoC and SJWs wither away and die?

schestowitz[TR]

also, stop defaming high-profile people to get attention

DaemonFC

There's never been this much interest in non-Firefox browsers, Firefox forks, non-Linux "unix" systems, etc.

DaemonFC

This is all thanks to the fact that people like you have infested all of those things and they're dying now.

frog

mjg59_: GNU is in big trouble, quality issues

frog

discuss.

MinceR

mjg59_: is banning people for unjustified language the only way to not tolerate racists, then?

DaemonFC

At this rate, Mozilla will have less than 1% of all Web users in about 2.5 years.

DaemonFC

They went from controlling nearly half the Web market share to less than 3% currently.

mjg59_

MinceR: No, asking them to stop being racist is a perfectly good starting point

DaemonFC

That's down from over 4.5% last year.

MinceR

mjg59_: who can ask people to stop being racist?

techrights-news

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psydruid

stop being racist against bullies!

techrights-news

Will sparkfun start sucking up to criminals (Micreosoft) for fun? https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5457

DaemonFC

Mozilla is dying and it's because of all of the spam and malware and pictures of "Strong Woman Welds Some Shit" flying open into your face.

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frog

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DaemonFC

We know women work in factories. I worked with plenty of women in factories. Thanks to the left, it's amazing there are any factories left in America these days.

MinceR

long awaited

DaemonFC

They've given our entire country over to the red Chinese.

MinceR

i herd you liek malware, so we put systemd in your windows so you can run malware while you run malware.

schestowitz[TR]

WSL is more secure

schestowitz[TR]

it boots into windows

MinceR

lol

schestowitz[TR]

with 'secure' boot

schestowitz[TR]

and NSA has back door access

schestowitz[TR]

to check you are safe :-)

schestowitz[TR]

and not a pedo

schestowitz[TR]

like the founder of...

DaemonFC

Then told the displaced workers to sign up for welfare while we experience hyperinflation and $4 trillion budget deficits.

schestowitz[TR]

never mind

MinceR

you can be "secure" knowing that you definitely have MICROS~1's secholes and backdoors on your system

DaemonFC

The fucking left has never done a goddamned thing for this country.

MinceR

UEFI protects you against working around those.

schestowitz[TR]

to mjg59_ , BACK DOORS are "SECURITY"

schestowitz[TR]

he defines it like National SECURITY agency does

schestowitz[TR]

and he defected

MinceR

neither has the fucking right

schestowitz[TR]

he got naturalised as USian

DaemonFC

The alternative should be hard reboot back to when people had some decency and pulled their pants up and had a job to go to.

mjg59_

MinceR: Anyone with any sort of leadership in the community?

MinceR

mjg59_: what sort of community needs leadership?

DaemonFC

And didn't have to beg a government that was even more bankrupt than they are for food thanks to liberals who auctioned their jobs away to Communists.

MinceR

sounds more like a corporation than a community

schestowitz[TR]

<mjg59_> MinceR: Anyone with any sort of leadership in the community?

https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/739100912820461570

schestowitz[TR]

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @sabdfl I don't think people like Bill Cosby or Jimmy Savile were leaders

schestowitz[TR]

savile was NOT a low-level worker

schestowitz[TR]

maybe you didn't watch him

schestowitz[TR]

neither did I

schestowitz[TR]

but he was VERY high profile in BBC

DaemonFC

This is Bill. Bill likes puddin'. Puddin' his dick where his dick don't belong!

schestowitz[TR]

and BBC knew what he had been doing

schestowitz[TR]

and ekept him on board

schestowitz[TR]

to fuck kids and corporses

mjg59_

MinceR: Don't people here keep talking about the need for FSF leadership?

MinceR

some people probably do

schestowitz[TR]

Cosby was the name of his show

MinceR

but the FSF is a corporation, not a community

schestowitz[TR]

he was not low level either

schestowitz[TR]

maybe mjg59_ doesn't know TV

DaemonFC

No-talent Assclown Bill Cosby got rich off a show that wasn't funny, whose best achievement was spawning Married With Children to make a mockery out of the Cosby Show, while Cosby was drugging and raping women and then used the money from the show that wasn't any good to hire lawyers to get him out of prison.

schestowitz[TR]

or showbiz

schestowitz[TR]

Cosby's net worth was what?

DaemonFC

This is America folks!

MinceR

we'd be in even deeper shit if the FSF was the community

*psydruid doesn't have any need for the FSF and its leadership

*MinceR doesn't have any need to be led

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], Cosby's crowning achievement was inspiring a parody portraying a poor White family in Chicago that was dysfunctional as all Hell but got along because, although it was unspoken, Al was a Real Man, a good man, who loved his wife, even though she wasn't good to him.

DaemonFC

A situation a lot of men get into.

DaemonFC

The Bundys were a better look at the typical family than the Cosbys.

schestowitz[TR]

Peg was OK to Al

schestowitz[TR]

Al was bad to her

schestowitz[TR]

and was a terrible dad, too

Sep 25 22:08

schestowitz[TR]

like homer simpson

Sep 25 22:08

DaemonFC

Peg was at least as negligent as Al was as far as the children, contributed nothing to the household, didn't work, didn't cook, and wasted all of Al's money so they couldn't pay any of their bills and Al couldn't get a car that got him to work reliably.

Sep 25 22:08

DaemonFC

Peg was very bad to Al and as bad as he was at raising the kids.

Sep 25 22:09

DaemonFC

But Al stayed with her even though he had very little to lose in a divorce proceeding.

Sep 25 22:09

schestowitz[TR]

she loves bonbons

Sep 25 22:09

schestowitz[TR]

not sure she was a huge spnder

schestowitz[TR]

that's their next-door neithebours

schestowitz[TR]

steve and marcy darcy

DaemonFC

Peg was such an asshole about spending Al's money that one of her best lines in 10 seasons was "You can wash clothes? And WEAR THEM AGAIN!? Well, you learn something new every day.".

schestowitz[TR]

iirc, then darcies had a mercedes

Sep 25 22:11

DaemonFC

Steve and Marcy, and then Marcy divorced Steve and got Jefferson, but Steve came back as a recurring character.

Sep 25 22:11

DaemonFC

One of the best episodes was Steve goes camping with Al and the kids and the bear rips his Mercedes apart and tosses him the hood ornament while he's in shock and repeating the MSRP price.

DaemonFC

I laughed so hard I about fell off the couch.

schestowitz[TR]

the mona lisa in the stolen car was also funny

schestowitz[TR]

and the car sliding off the driveway

DaemonFC

Oh, when Al's clunker got stolen and he's padding the insurance claim?

schestowitz[TR]

i must have seen every episode like 5 times

schestowitz[TR]

maybe 3+

schestowitz[TR]

for sure my most-watched one overall, by far...

schestowitz[TR]

it would not air now

schestowitz[TR]

the mental-heads would 'cancel' it

schestowitz[TR]

iirc, even back then there were legal challenges

DaemonFC

The one where Peg makes the royal guard outside Buckingham Palace smile and then pass out because of Al's shoe.

schestowitz[TR]

and they mocked thee in the show itself

schestowitz[TR]

*these

DaemonFC

Or when he sticks his feet in the Thames and thee fish all float up, dead.

https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/grave-dancegif.gif ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-grave-dancegif#comic )

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)

DaemonFC

A river that's so disgusting that to this day, Coca Cola advertises that they managed to make drinkable water from it.

DaemonFC

You had to understand how gross that river is for the joke to be as funny as it was.

DaemonFC

schestowitz[TR], A woman in Michigan complained to the FCC about them.

Sep 25 22:16

schestowitz[TR]

every river in a large city is filthy

Sep 25 22:16

schestowitz[TR]

includes litter

Sep 25 22:17

DaemonFC

Her reward was that Fox renewed it for three more seasons at once and then they included the joke that Al got a TV show in the show, but his show was canceled because "Some woman in Michigan complained.".

Sep 25 22:17

DaemonFC

They threw in a line just to razz one woman in Michigan that tried to Cancel them and failed.

Sep 25 22:17

DaemonFC

That was your only reward for being a complainer like mjg59_ back then. Everyone hated you and made fun of you.

Sep 25 22:18

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Sep 25 22:20

DaemonFC

mjg59_ really wants open forums to be shut down (by ClownFlare or someone if needs be) so that people who want to escape fake social media like his Shitter account have nowhere else to go and talk.

Sep 25 22:20

DaemonFC

And so we need to stop handing control over things to Clownflare. They've proven they'll take your forum offline for speech that is "politically protected" but not from them.

Sep 25 22:20

DaemonFC

And their goal is to "host" all of the Web so they can police it for the left.

Sep 25 22:21

DaemonFC

The reason I mentioned the Swedish study about Trans suicides is, look, this wasn't in the United States. It was a "stable, modern, liberal democracy in Western Europe, with strong institutions".

DaemonFC

Right? And in that environment the Trans suicide rate was over 60% higher than it was for other people.

DaemonFC

And Garrett blames Kiwi Farms for some idiot setting themselves on fire when it was probably not their fault.

starstreak

i know where thats going

starstreak

time to ignore him again

DaemonFC

Yes, they're assholes, but if they had any effect on that person who set themselves on fire, it was probably minimal.

DaemonFC

And study after study shows this.

DaemonFC

There isn't any proof that Kiwi Farms "caused" a single real person to commit suicide.

DaemonFC

We know the Trans suicide rate is extremely high to begin with.

schestowitz[TR]

there isa test case in the US

schestowitz[TR]

lori something

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

a woman who 'bullied' a young girl

starstreak

when i talk about reptilians im making the channel look bad. when daemonfc spews racism and transphobia, thats free speech.

schestowitz[TR]

who later killed herself

DaemonFC

I've been harassed by Peter Staley to a larger extent than Kiwi Farms went after any Trans person.

schestowitz[TR]

and they tried to hold the adult liable

schestowitz[TR]

for driving her over the edge

DaemonFC

I just left the phone off the hook. Fuck him.

starstreak

nobody ever tells daemonfc to be 'on topic'

schestowitz[TR]

or "pouring gasoline into the fire"

schestowitz[TR]

pardon the sun

schestowitz[TR]

*pun

schestowitz[TR]

it happened in epo too

DaemonFC

He was ringing my phone and published my number on his forum for calling him a drug company marketing creep.

schestowitz[TR]

self-immolatioon

schestowitz[TR]

a man in his own apartment

DaemonFC

I was getting death threats from AIDS patients who unfortunately follow Staley, who ginned up lies about me so they would turn into an army of trolls.

schestowitz[TR]

starstreak: I tell that a lot to him

schestowitz[TR]

and he is in #techpol and -social too (less the latter)

schestowitz[TR]

but this started with debate on free speech

schestowitz[TR]

after the suject was changed from secure boot

schestowitz[TR]

as usual

DaemonFC

If anything, mjg59_ is more like Peter Staley.

DaemonFC

He's the Peter Staley of Free Software.

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Sep 25 22:26

DaemonFC

A very small person and an emotional terrorist, or he tries to be anyway.

Sep 25 22:26

schestowitz[TR]

if we banned everything that anyone found discomforting, we would be a dumpster fire

Sep 25 22:26

schestowitz[TR]

kids would not have books aboout witches and monsters

DaemonFC

Peter Staley is a Cult Leader. He's created a Cult of AIDS drugs. Like, literally. He's a drug company marketing asshole.

DaemonFC

He gets mad when you say that, so you should say it more.

starstreak

<schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC can be racist

schestowitz[TR]

yers, he is

schestowitz[TR]

he is racist

schestowitz[TR]

then again

schestowitz[TR]

to some extent

schestowitz[TR]

all people arer racist

schestowitz[TR]

animals are too

starstreak

so thats not you giving him permission?

schestowitz[TR]

but some keep it inside

schestowitz[TR]

brits are betetr than usssians at keeping it inside

schestowitz[TR]

canadians are too

DaemonFC

I pulled up to the gas pump in the Honda this morning, and some crazy guy started walking, and I clicked the lock button and started the car up, and aborted the refueling.

starstreak

i've sued corporations for less

starstreak

lol

DaemonFC

He waved and walked back to the store. I don't know if he was going to shoot me or ask me for a dollar.

DaemonFC

I wasn't going to find out, either.

DaemonFC

Sorry, not sorry.

DaemonFC

I went back and gassed up the Honda during daylight hours.

DaemonFC

Waukegan has a gas station shooting about twice a day. :P

DaemonFC

Don't be a statistic.

starstreak

i think thats why a lot of corporations do CoCs, its protection against being sued or at the very least it can help mitigate losses

MinceR

25 232657 < schestowitz[TR]> if we banned everything that anyone found discomforting, we would be a dumpster fire

DaemonFC

It's safer to make assumptions even if people would call you a racist.

schestowitz[TR]

the language oif accountabilty:

MinceR

or a ghost town

schestowitz[TR]

tryin to hold people respnsible for actions of others

DaemonFC

95% of the shooters are black. Gas station shootings happen every day here.

schestowitz[TR]

also known as collective accountability

DaemonFC

A black guy is walking to my car for no apparent reason in the middle of the night at a gas station.

DaemonFC

Drive away!

DaemonFC

Fill up later.

MinceR

mjg59_ certainly wouldn't be here if we banned everyone who bothers someone

schestowitz[TR]

also see why througout history it was a bad idea(tm) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt_(emotion)#Collective_guilt

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Guilt (emotion) - Wikipedia

schestowitz[TR]

"Collective guilt (or group guilt) is the unpleasant and often emotional reaction that results among a group of individuals when it is perceived that the group illegitimately harmed members of another group. It is often the result of "sharing a social identity with others whose actions represent a threat to the positivity of that identity". For an individual to experience collective guilt, he must identify himself as a part of the

Sep 25 22:32

schestowitz[TR]

in-group. "This produces a perceptual shift from thinking of oneself in terms of 'I' and 'me' to 'us' or 'we'.”"

Sep 25 22:32

schestowitz[TR]

you could become like singapore

schestowitz[TR]

pap

schestowitz[TR]

lky

schestowitz[TR]

where for merely "huting the feelings" of some other "group" you get arrested

schestowitz[TR]

because they have many ethnic groups there

DaemonFC

I'm familiar with the source code layout of various projects enough to see if anything interesting has landed that I might want to pull and build.

schestowitz[TR]

that leads to awful tyranny

schestowitz[TR]

and spinelesss people

DaemonFC

I know how to use git. I build software all the time. I have maintained my own fork of Linux before.

schestowitz[TR]

obediene tpeople who live in 'shoeboxes'

schestowitz[TR]

and are force to join the military

schestowitz[TR]

*forced

MinceR

"And one more group offended. Guess I'm just not a people person. Good thing I have Kevlar! Wait, do I have Kevlar?"

DaemonFC

"Add faster CRC routine. The speed improvement is very small for typical use cases, but may be valuable if a lot of independent encodes are running and/or for a very long time. Patch by Robert Kausch of the fre:ac project."

DaemonFC

That still hasn't landed upstream in LAME?

DaemonFC

Fedora included this patch in its own patch series a long time ago.

Sep 25 22:36

DaemonFC

Ugh, it's taking a long time for releases of old codecs now.

Sep 25 22:36

DaemonFC

Like Vorbis, I guess. Distributors are just supposed to patch CVEs from 2019 on their own while they're in someone's git tree.

Sep 25 22:36

DaemonFC

"Disable Takehiros IEEE753 hack by default. On modern CPUs (anything more recent from AMD than hammer/k8; Intel: Core2, i3/5/7/9 and similar -- no idea about recent Atom/Pentium) it is a speed pessimization. Add a configure option for it so that it can be enabled on old CPUs."

Sep 25 22:37

DaemonFC

Well, to be fair this is a patch from 1998, iirc.

Sep 25 22:37

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Sep 25 22:38

DaemonFC

It works around a problem in ancient CPUs (pre-2006 or so).

Sep 25 22:38

DaemonFC

No idea what the m68k or PPC builds do when you enable it.

Sep 25 22:38

DaemonFC

Or ARM. I suppose someone should test it if they have access to such a system.

Sep 25 22:39

DaemonFC

"Use external libmpg123 instead of internal mpglib for mpeg decoding (unix-like systems which use the autotools ("configure; make; make install") build system). There are years of improvements in libmpg123 which we do not have in mpglib. Patch by Thomas Orgis of the mpg123 project. "

Sep 25 22:40

DaemonFC

They should really just drop mpglib and the IEEE753 hack altogether.

Sep 25 22:40

DaemonFC

I've thought about cloning LAME and getting rid of all the "10,000 year old dead plants". Possibly cleaning up the build system a bit.

Sep 25 22:41

DaemonFC

The issue is that they don't make much difference to the compiled binaries except maybe size.

Sep 25 22:41

DaemonFC

Having a lot of switches and obsolete codepaths is ridiculous though.

Sep 25 22:41

DaemonFC

"Update the Visual Studio project files to Visual Studio 2019. Patch by Michel Fink."

Sep 25 22:42

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Sep 25 22:42

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Sep 25 22:42

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➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/25/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎

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DaemonFC

Pointless. The only thing Visual Studio 2019 adds is Microsoft spyware hooks, binary output bloat, and removes compatibility with Windows 98, XP, and Vista....Which are dead, dead, dead, but people still use them and there's no reason to yank it when cross compiling for Windows using MinGW works and produces better binary code.

psydruid

Why should they have Visual Studio project files in the first place?

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DaemonFC

They shouldn't!

DaemonFC

They should drop MSVS and cross-compile using GCC.

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psydruid

Those should only be created on the local system and never be in a git repository

Sep 25 22:44

DaemonFC

I never compile LAME with Microsoft Visual Studio even when I want Windows binaries from it. In my testing, the binaries from MSVS 2019 are 3 times bigger, slower at encoding, and needlessly remove support from old Windows systems that it should still run on in case someone should find that useful.

Sep 25 22:44

DaemonFC

And since we haven't heard anything lately from OS/2 people, I don't even KNOW that the OS/2 port still works. But if you produce a version that works even on Windows 98, chances are someone using eComStation (OS/2) could run modern LAME via the Windows version in Odin.

Sep 25 22:46

DaemonFC

So you're cutting off a lot of people in the world if you consider that there's.....a lot of people in the world and compiling with MSVS 2019 removes support for operating systems that, collectively 2-3% of all desktop users still have.

Sep 25 22:47

DaemonFC

So there's no reason to support Visual Studio at all, and definitely not 2019.

Sep 25 22:47

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Sep 25 22:48

DaemonFC

mjg59_ just doesn't want to understand me.

DaemonFC

It's more of an offbeat sense of humor than anything.

DaemonFC

Mandy thinks I'm hilarious when I speak some (knowingly bogus) Tagalog.

DaemonFC

I'm not making fun of him, or Tagalog speakers. I'm making fun of myself by badly imitating their language.

https://i.imgur.com/Q3glWEU.png

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Sep 25 22:51

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Sep 25 22:53

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Sep 25 22:54

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Sep 25 22:55

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Sep 25 22:55

starstreak

Sep 25 22:55

psydruid

I've got a .gitignore with ".idea cmake-* .vs out debug.log *.kdev4 build" to keep all of this crap out of the source tree

psydruid

Visual Studio is so slow that it's barely usable

starstreak

VS Code is pretty fast though

psydruid

Not to mention buggy and spewing out spurious errors

highest_cubist_thrills

<starstreak> https://i.imgur.com/Q3glWEU.png <- true story

Sep 25 22:57

psydruid

VS Code is a true next generation code editor

Sep 25 22:57

starstreak

VS Code is my guilty pleasure :(

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starstreak

i love it but its microsoft so im conflicted

psydruid

I hope it works well with Rust and C#

starstreak

it works really well with Golang

schestowitz[TR]

i told my sister some hours ago it's proprioetary

starstreak

what i thought was really cool is that it runs go fmt when you save

schestowitz[TR]

she is not using it

schestowitz[TR]

but thought aboout it

highest_cubist_thrills

<psydruid> VS Code is a true next generation code editor <- firengi or klingon?

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DaemonFC

"Remove the macosx XCode project files, nobody stepped up to update them for the libmpg123 changes."

DaemonFC

It's a Mac. Probably nobody knows how.

starstreak

VS Code also does linting and auto code completion

schestowitz[TR]

highest_cubist_thrills: starship enterprise run secure boot

*psydruid doesn't know how to answer that question as he used VS Code for all of 5 minutes a few years ago

schestowitz[TR]

and they got stiuuck in space

schestowitz[TR]

schestowitz[TR]

a hostile boat installed a patch

psydruid

but it was quite a discovery

schestowitz[TR]

and the engine room would not start

schestowitz[TR]

for their own security

highest_cubist_thrills

and they got stiuuck in space <- always wondered how janeway got out there, and why she needed the borg to get back

Sep 25 23:01

highest_cubist_thrills

now it makes sense

Sep 25 23:01

schestowitz[TR]

they needed to returnthe ship to the store

Sep 25 23:01

schestowitz[TR]

and get a new starship enterprise delivered

highest_cubist_thrills

i hope they got a windows refund

starstreak

i got a windows refund

schestowitz[TR]

and then recover the encryption key from microsoft

highest_cubist_thrills

and get a new starship enterprise delivered <- that sounds more like apple

schestowitz[TR]

to get their (mr.) data back

psydruid

however if I was really using it that would be akin to deep ****** nice

https://sourceforge.net/p/lame/bugs/501/?limit=25

DaemonFC

Sep 25 23:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | LAME (Lame Aint an MP3 Encoder) / Bugs / #501 Encoder: Assertion `eov->bitrate_index <= cfg->vbr_max_bitrate_index' failed

Sep 25 23:03

DaemonFC

"I think we are now talking about frame 8, granule 0 and channel 1? It has the special case, that there is analog silence detected. The bug seems to be, that in this case, the amount of bits for analog silence is larger than the original target."

Sep 25 23:03

DaemonFC

Strictly speaking the lowest size frame in LAME is 32 kbps, but that's not technically the lowest you can go for analog silence in all cases.

Sep 25 23:04

DaemonFC

If there's some audio in a nearby frame, you can allocate most of the 32 kbps frames for analog silence as available to the byte reservoir.

Sep 25 23:04

DaemonFC

The problem you run into in MP3 is those REALLY long tracks with a hidden song at the end, which from the CD ends up in a single file after like 9 minutes of analog silence or something

Sep 25 23:05

DaemonFC

Sep 25 23:05

DaemonFC

There's no use for most of these frames and so they all get padded out and you end up with a 60 MB MP3.

Sep 25 23:05

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Sep 25 23:07

DaemonFC

It's completely stupid and can't happen in Opus.

Sep 25 23:08

DaemonFC

The reason 501 was flagged as potentially affecting quality is that if a frame of digital silence is parked close enough to something that needs more bits, taking too many bits to encode digital silence could mean fewer bits for something else.

Sep 25 23:09

DaemonFC

But this is a negligible improvement to quality. It's more likely that the encoder would crash out and produce a corrupted file.

Sep 25 23:09

DaemonFC

Because there could be compiler out there that takes a very unfortunate view of this code in the optimizer stage and produces something that doesn't even work.

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DaemonFC

(If there is, it would probably be LLVM.)

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DaemonFC

I don't use Clang/LLVM if I can possibly avoid it.

DaemonFC

The optimizer takes too many liberties when it encounters undefined behavior.

DaemonFC

Then what you end up with is an unstable program.

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DaemonFC

When Fedora releng was considering building Firefox with Clang, I threatened to set up a repo to continue building it with GCC and mark it as replacing Fedora's Firefox package via obsoletes.

DaemonFC

Eventually, the proposal was voted down (barely) and GCC builds went on which...

*DaemonFC goes to check

DaemonFC

GCC 12.2.1 as of now.

DaemonFC

Good.

frog

try to maintain any distro _without_ GCC or LLVM ... god luck

DaemonFC

Clang/LLVM is a pretty serious step down in quality from GCC.

DaemonFC

mjg59_ hated that.

frog

and here is the reason why i consider GNU-buildsystem wrecked too: Perl

frog

i had to roll-back to perl-5.8 to pass with tcc

DaemonFC

The LLVM part is quite usable in some contexts like generating on-the-fly intermediate representations where you need it like this.

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MinceR

"my web browser pretending to be an IDE is so fast"

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frog

maybe, this can be repaird... however, there is that many other problems with GNU-toolchain and buildsystem... i quit

frog

and LLVM isn't the alternative

DaemonFC

But that's mostly interesting when you're using it in a JavaScript engine or for shaders in Vulkan or OpenGL.

DaemonFC

In that case, LLVM is cool. B-)

DaemonFC

But Clang is a rather unfortunate thing.

DaemonFC

The only reason why you'd use it is if you're a GPL hater.

frog

that's why, i celebrate every day, i tiny little more of GNU can be detangled

starstreak

MinceR, lol

frog

i don't object to GPL, in fact i consider it's copyleft too weak

frog

it is, technical reasons only, to avoid most of what GNU stamped GPL onto

DaemonFC

Clang should only be one of two things.

DaemonFC

A secondary compiler you use for build verifications and debugging -or- in the trash where it belongs.

frog

strangely, heading out of GNU, often results in MIT licensed stuff

DaemonFC

Sometimes it unearths interestingly buggy code that GCC would probably never make a functional problem out of.

Sep 25 23:16

DaemonFC

And that's why Clang is interesting sometimes.

Sep 25 23:16

frog

llvm is a huge c++ monstrosity, not interested

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frog

and such types of compilers, modern GCC and LLVM, and the _entire_ "free software" system relying on it, this scares me to death

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Sep 25 23:19

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frog

it was just a tiny little piece, a sudo/doas replacement, because toybox hasn't got any, and the suckless.org one was incomplete

MinceR

yeah, i don't know why anyone maintaining such a large project would want to rely on features such as namespaces, classes or STL :>

techrights-news

C.S. Lewis on Anarchy gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/lewis.gmi

frog

and doas, ships with configure.ac -> away with it

frog

you know, what a bliss this is, if a POSIX makefile suffices, and a piece of software easily cross/compiles including tcc-toolchain, static linking, all passed

frog

without problem

schestowitz[TR]

MinceR Lewis

frog

and the runtime/buildtime dependency graph is minimal

MinceR

pretty sure i'm not religious

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Sep 25 23:22

frog

in the next days, i'll re-fine the Paradise Linux package set, blacklisting autoconf/automake/perl/...

Sep 25 23:22

frog

and see to, all necessary development tooling is available... which it will be

Sep 25 23:23

frog

already got a neat editor, which is vis, and lua scripting... this won't cause any trouble

Sep 25 23:23

frog

again, not GPL, MIT or ISC

Sep 25 23:23

MinceR

modules would also be great, but i'm not sure if they're specified or implemented yet

frog

of cause, the license banner doesn't reveal what quality to expect

MinceR

not having macros leak from function/class definitions into every compilation unit that uses them is pretty nice

MinceR

also not having using namespace std; leak :>

frog

however, when i see GPL/GNU/FSF, i fear for the worst

frog

and most BSD compromised too much, with the quality deficiencies, wouldn't want to sync against their ports/pkgsrc trees

Sep 25 23:26

frog

same with gentoo, i'll not sync against their portrage tree anymore, that's the plan

Sep 25 23:26

frog

i got an overview already, over what will remain; not sure, if at least some mp3 software or mplayer can be salvaged, probably not, most of it

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frog

because, i won't accept any GNU-buildsystem anymore; wherever this attached, away with it

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frog

not because of GPL

Sep 25 23:29

frog

and this is something, some among FSF and mjg59_ seem they don't understand

Sep 25 23:30

frog

besides licensing, there is quality issues, with GNU

Sep 25 23:30

MinceR

they don't seem to want quality

Sep 25 23:32

frog

i recommend this approach: no-c++ anywhere and see what remains, with "free software"

psydruid

or when they have something resembling it they go to destroy it

MinceR

"no-c++" won't help

psydruid

go on to*

frog

that's one step, of cause, at any later time, bootstrapping a c++ compilere, that's fine, the problem is, the basis below

frog

another step, full removal of GNU-buildsystem, see what remains...

MinceR

it doesn't exclude rust, or java, or MICROS~1 visual java, or basic

frog

same with this, of cause, i do NOT intend to block GNU-buildsystem, it can easily be added, problem is during early bootstrapping/system-integration steps

frog

the dependency graph, as soon as any GNU, attaches, is beyond good and evil

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252Flive%252F2022%252F09%252F25%252Fworld%252Fitaly-elections

frog

it is, only a coincidence, then most software is MIT or ISC, not GPL

Sep 25 23:36

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Sep 25 23:38

frog

MinceR: no-c++ excludes all of this, java, rust, etc...; all this is implemented in c++

Sep 25 23:40

frog

the next revelation will be GNU-buildsystem removal

Sep 25 23:40

frog

the line was crossed, when i had to roll-back to perl-5.8 (year 2003), and than some hackjobs into automake/autoconf for this

Sep 25 23:41

frog

because, GNU can nuke the perl-5.8 compatibility any time, and i am not willing to dig deep into GNU shit with every autoconf/automake update

Sep 25 23:42

frog

another reason, to remove autoconf/automake... i stumbled upon extremely weird side effects when calling autoreconf -if on older GNU software packages

Sep 25 23:42

frog

autoconf/automake are not backwards compatible, and instead of installing one version of this wreckage, it is several versions required then

Sep 25 23:43

frog

i recall someone, called it cancer

Sep 25 23:43

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Sep 25 23:48

DaemonFC

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portal.mozz.us | Gemini Portal

DaemonFC

"This month, a hard-right group founded by neo-Nazis and skinheads became the largest party in Sweden’s likely governing coalition. In France this year, the far-right leader Marine Le Pen — for a second consecutive time — reached the final round of presidential elections. In Spain, the hard-right Vox, a party closely aligned with Ms. Meloni, is surging."

DaemonFC

An in the UK, Liz Trump.

DaemonFC

Very Stable Western Democracies.

DaemonFC

RMS frequently heaps praise on Western Europe, which is being taken over by "Nazis and skinheads", apparently.