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| activelow | i see, they are incestious associated with each other: KPMG, IBM, Atlantik Brücke, RAND Corp., Washington | Mar 31 00:02 |
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| activelow | it is important, any business entity or political party, it is all shallow labels, a camouflage of the real entities involved behind the scenes | Mar 31 00:03 |
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| activelow | the entire "eco activist" movements, are agent provocateurs, false flag operatives, indoctrinated with propaganda lies | Mar 31 00:03 |
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| activelow | one favorite, is the "climate change" one, which they argue 1.5°C maximum temperature increase, while temperature anomalies surpassed 10°C already in Germany | Mar 31 00:04 |
| activelow | so, they hijacked this, knowing, they couldn't hide the truth anymore, and talke about 1.5°C... just an example, of the psycho fuckery of theirs | Mar 31 00:05 |
| activelow | same with the "carbon certificates", to funnel cash to Tesla shareholders, it's all propaganda scam | Mar 31 00:05 |
| activelow | with the aim of land grabbing, power grabbing, looting... as they did in east-germany for example, and then tried to proceed into White-Russia and Ukraine | Mar 31 00:06 |
| activelow | to accomplish this, entire military capabilities were dismantled, in east-germany, all University CEOs replaced, scientific staff oppressed | Mar 31 00:07 |
| activelow | semiconductor manufacturing destroyed, which was a knee-jerk to say the least, just a side-note | Mar 31 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> so, they hijacked this, knowing, they couldn't hide the truth anymore, and talke about 1.5°C... just an example, of the psycho fuckery of theirs | Mar 31 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | Temperatures in parts of Antarctica are 70 F above normal. | Mar 31 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | The billionaire news is saying it's a great time to vacation there. | Mar 31 00:08 |
| MinceR | they should all go there, then | Mar 31 00:08 |
| MinceR | and not come back | Mar 31 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They always find a way to make the horrible shit they do sound pleasant. | Mar 31 00:10 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032330 | Mar 31 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mx0g3ual32o81.png created on 2022-03-23 12:58:29.648236 | Mar 31 00:10 | |
| DaemonFC | And they make their victims sound like pests and vermin. Like how mjg59_'s mayor calls homeless "Difficult Street People". | Mar 31 00:11 |
| psydruid | selling out to US interests was a precondition for West Germany and East Germany to be reunited? | Mar 31 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Very SJW-ish, you know. | Mar 31 00:11 |
| activelow | psydruid: germany never had been re-united | Mar 31 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | The cops beat them up. They're barely human. "Difficult Street People" | Mar 31 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Take a shit on the floor. Get Schwifty in San Francisco. | Mar 31 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | And all that. | Mar 31 00:12 |
| MinceR | just a hybrid of streets and people | Mar 31 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | These rich assholes move in and gentrify a place and they completely level everything that was there. Suck the charm and uniqueness entirely out of it. | Mar 31 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Then laugh about the $6,000 a month rents. | Mar 31 00:13 |
| psydruid | activelow, what exactly happened then? former East Germany became West Germany losing its entire identity? | Mar 31 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them are just a bunch of buggering hipsters who never plan to have heirs and so they don't care if it's ruined years from now to the point where it will never be okay again. | Mar 31 00:14 |
| psydruid | I've only been to Berlin in the east | Mar 31 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | People there "get it". | Mar 31 00:14 |
| activelow | psydruid: land and power grab, to loot and plunder | Mar 31 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | They obviously want Waukegan now. Noboy gave two shits and a fuck about the coal plant belching out pollution on black people for 70 years. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | But now that the Mr. GOOOOOOOLAGs want MOAR real estate, they have to shut it down. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| activelow | to remain fair, i appreciate buildings were re-constructed, and investments into infrastructure; nonetheless they did it to benefit themselves | Mar 31 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | So probably within the next 5-10 years. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | They'll get it. | Mar 31 00:16 |
| activelow | which is one explanation, why _many_ investments ended as money graveyard in east germany | Mar 31 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | Then it will be as expensive as the rest of Lake County. | Mar 31 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody gave a shit about the ethylene oxide or the coal plants or the PCBs until the Mr. GOOLAGs said that's a nice city you got there. | Mar 31 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Be a shame if someone chased you out and made the rent $6,000. | Mar 31 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cnns-new-streaming-service-already-headed-layoffs-amid-lackluster-sales | Mar 31 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CNN's New Streaming Service Already Headed For Layoffs Amid Dismal Sales | ZeroHedge | Mar 31 00:18 | |
| DaemonFC | CNN.....rapists, chomos, and Democrats.... It's the same thing really. Now with an entire section of Amazon products. | Mar 31 00:19 |
| psydruid | so with all the money Germany has why doesn't it restart its independent technological development instead of being desperate to attract Intel? | Mar 31 00:19 |
| psydruid | I've read about Magdeburg, but why is Intel needed there? | Mar 31 00:20 |
| activelow | psydruid: i couldn't at least afford to rent an appropriate flat and some office space | Mar 31 00:20 |
| activelow | as far as i am concerned, i am wondering why Intel is greeted friendly, instead of with tanks and strela rockets | Mar 31 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | CNN is actually so cold that they're doing the whole Ukraine disaster porn thing and then cutting away to an Applebee's commercial with people dancing and singing about shitty Applebee's food while the ticker talks about people starving in Ukraine. | Mar 31 00:21 |
| activelow | oh wait, those strela rockets were shipped to Ukraine | Mar 31 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | "The network has been working on the launch since the summer of 2021 and has invested nearly $100 million in the venture. CNN owner WarnerMedia is asking viewers to fork over $5.99 a month for the service." | Mar 31 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | $6 to watch CNN? LOL | Mar 31 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | "As of May 2021, the median age of a CNN viewer was 64 (which is still lower than the average age for Fox, at 68). " | Mar 31 00:23 |
| psydruid | lol | Mar 31 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, the people who haven't pulled the plug on cable yet and are statistically going to die in about 5-6 years. | Mar 31 00:23 |
| psydruid | dying "news" networks | Mar 31 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | CNN was good in the 90s. | Mar 31 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | They were an okay network for most of the 2000s. | Mar 31 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's a bunch of pedophiles and rapists giving each other blowjobs in front of......64 year old viewers who care what those people have to say about a guy who isn't even the president anymore. | Mar 31 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/shanghai-residents-struggle-obtain-food-medicine-citywide-lockdown-continues | Mar 31 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shanghai Residents Struggle To Obtain Food & Medicine As Citywide Lockdown Continues | ZeroHedge | Mar 31 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | China is killing itself with the lockdowns. | Mar 31 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how long this will go on before CEOs that outsourced there admit it was a lousy idea in the long run really. | Mar 31 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Lin Mei, a local resident living in Shanghai’s Pudong district who asked to use a pseudonym, told The Epoch Times on March 28 that the lockdown came as a surprise, and said the city’s authorities should have warned them ahead of time so they could stock up. | Mar 31 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Lin, who is nearly 60 years old, said local authorities should be considerate to seniors like her, since many of them need nonstop medical attention. As for her, she said she has been suffering from kidney stone pain for over 10 years. | Mar 31 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | “Last week, my kidney stone disease acted up again. I wanted to go see urologists at major hospitals but their services were suspended,” she said. “I went to a small clinic but the doctor’s prescription drugs were not powerful enough to subdue my pain.” | Mar 31 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | “So the pain persisted and I ended up having a fever,” Lin said, before adding that all she could do now was drink plenty of water since she couldn’t go out." | Mar 31 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's what you get with Communism. | Mar 31 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | If I had kidney stones I could see a doctor about it probably next week and we'd be going into surgery if it came to that in 2-3 weeks. | Mar 31 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | In places like Ireland and Canada, you're waiting many months, sometimes years. | Mar 31 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | People from there come here and talk about how shitty it actually is where they're from. Like there's a system, but it's so backlogged and under-funded that they'll just get to you if you're still alive when it's your turn. | Mar 31 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, enjoy the kidney stones all year. | Mar 31 00:28 |
| activelow | almost all "solar panels", subsidized with trillions in germany, are made in china... with coal and nuclear power plants required; just recently 10 new coal power plants in china, meanwhile in germany the solar panels produced in China supposedly "safe the planet", "the climate", "humanity" and whatnot | Mar 31 00:29 |
| activelow | same with the wind turbines, each produced from a dozen ton of steel, require nuclear and coal power plants nearby, to produce them, the wind mills, which are "renewable energy" they say | Mar 31 00:30 |
| activelow | if any of such wind turbines is placed into an ecological forest region, the region in question isn't a natural reserve anymore, the surrounding region of wind turbines is designated as "industrial" area then, with permissions to construct buildings etc. | Mar 31 00:32 |
| activelow | housing to provide "alliance90/greens" with their ecological living space, which is land-grabbing | Mar 31 00:33 |
| activelow | and now, they order ballistic missiles from Israel, you see, Abrams Tanks from USA, Intel fabs in east-germany | Mar 31 00:35 |
| activelow | Elon Musk with his Tesla Factory in Berlin... new railway stations were planned and constructed long before Elon announced his new Giga-Factory in Berlin | Mar 31 00:35 |
| activelow | the recent "special emergency budget", 100billion, used to acquire F-35 and located exactly where? | Mar 31 00:38 |
| activelow | probably Ramstein Airbase, which i wonder it wasn't closed yet, after 1990 and aggressions of USA around the globe | Mar 31 00:38 |
| psydruid | the Chinese replace their power plants every few years based on the latest r&d instead of keeping them going for decades | Mar 31 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's basically no laws to protect the environment in China. | Mar 31 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | The air quality in the cities is horrible. The Communists do what they do everywhere and fix it by lying. | Mar 31 00:51 |
| MinceR | in hungary, such laws probably exist, but they're ignored by the state whenever orban or his pals violate them | Mar 31 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | The US embassy in Beijing monitors air quality and posts it on the embassy website. The Chinese firewall blocks it so nobody living there can see what they breathe. | Mar 31 00:51 |
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| DaemonFC | The Communists have never disputed the US embassy's readings. They just block them at the firewall level. | Mar 31 00:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 31 00:53 |
| MinceR | typical authoritarian attitude | Mar 31 00:53 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3138646/us-embassy-beijing-turns-attention-ozone-levels-more-decade | Mar 31 00:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | US embassy in Beijing turns attention to ozone levels more than a decade after pollution updates spurred authorities into action | South China Morning Post | Mar 31 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, "Sandstorm" is what they call it when someone pictures how bad the smog is that day. | Mar 31 00:56 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU | Mar 31 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU | Mar 31 00:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Darude - Sandstorm - Invidious | Mar 31 00:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/d8/images/methode/2021/06/25/b7c5fbfa-d4e2-11eb-8921-c363d46ef7af_1320x770_062050.jpg | Mar 31 00:57 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, "Could you imagine if every Chinese person should get a car?" -Fidel Castro | Mar 31 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them don't have one now and it looks this bad. | Mar 31 00:58 |
| MinceR | they'll never be able to afford one | Mar 31 00:58 |
| MinceR | not even a red chinese "car" | Mar 31 00:58 |
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| DaemonFC | No, the government is too busy building empty cities that fall apart with nobody to live there or maintain them. | Mar 31 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | State-mandated GDP, MinceR | Mar 31 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Full employmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeent! | Mar 31 00:59 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 31 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | To infinity, and beyond! | Mar 31 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | 11% MinceR 11%! | Mar 31 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | If we build pretend shopping malls, I think we can do it. | Mar 31 01:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Then of course there will be nothing to buy there, and all the apartments will be empty, and nobody to use the roads. | Mar 31 01:01 |
| MinceR | finally, a place for pretend shopping | Mar 31 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | But it's a big country. We'll just start over somewhere else and let all this fall apart and then come back and build it again. | Mar 31 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> finally, a place for pretend shopping | Mar 31 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's the pretend Apple store. | Mar 31 01:03 |
| kingoffrance | yeah thats why 'to the moon' is so funny.....wallstreetbets. thats pretty much how 'the system' operates, no need to 'rebel' | Mar 31 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be over there pretending to buy some Nike shoes if you need me for anything. | Mar 31 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then we can go eat imaginary cheese pretzels in the imaginary food court. | Mar 31 01:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 31 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I was thinking about catching an imaginary movie at the imagination theater later. | Mar 31 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | Do you imagine there's anything they haven't censored? | Mar 31 01:04 |
| psydruid | didn't lots of malls get abandoned? | Mar 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | In the United States? Tons of them. But they were real at one point. | Mar 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Shopper preference changed. | Mar 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | There's an entire shopping mall in Marion, Indiana, falling apart. | Mar 31 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's all closed except the Applebee's, the restrooms, and a discount department store. | Mar 31 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Marion has turned into Little Chicago. | Mar 31 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | When I lived there, it was safe. | Mar 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Grandma is in a nursing home there, and it's about the only thing in the city that still is nice. | Mar 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | A place for people who had money to wait to die. | Mar 31 01:06 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/privacy-shield-redo | Mar 31 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Privacy Shield: What’s in the U.S.-EU agreement - Protocol | Mar 31 01:07 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/silenced-no-more-washington-law | Mar 31 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Silenced No More Act becomes law in Washington state - Protocol | Mar 31 01:07 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was watching Star Trek: TNG again. There was that episode where everyone who reached 60 was expected to kill themselves. | Mar 31 01:07 |
| MinceR | they could just automatically generate red chinese style movies | Mar 31 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | To spare their children the burden of taking care of them later. | Mar 31 01:07 |
| AdmFubar | oh this is grand!!! https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-meta-customer-data-hack | Mar 31 01:08 |
| MinceR | just render a screen of text saying "Bad people did bad things, but the police apprehended them successfully and they were punished." | Mar 31 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple, Meta gave customer data in response to fake requests - Protocol | Mar 31 01:08 | |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> just render a screen of text saying "Bad people did bad things, but the police apprehended them successfully and they were punished." | Mar 31 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Crime-Fiction-Police Procedural | Mar 31 01:08 |
| MinceR | not sure about that | Mar 31 01:08 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-payments-fintech-finance | Mar 31 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is building its own payments tech so it can be less reliant on partners - Protocol | Mar 31 01:09 | |
| MinceR | they did this to Fight Club | Mar 31 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | What, seriously? | Mar 31 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | No Tyler Durden blowing up the bank's computers to erase the debt? | Mar 31 01:10 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8s6SkJSK2k | Mar 31 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L8s6SkJSK2k | Mar 31 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | "Fight Club" Isn't The Only Movie China Altered - Invidious | Mar 31 01:11 | |
| MinceR | (in reality, only Fight Club was said to be altered this way, the others in this video are spoofs) | Mar 31 01:12 |
| MinceR | (...for now) | Mar 31 01:12 |
| techrights-news | Red Hat Satellite 6.10.4 has been released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163164 | Mar 31 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Satellite 6.10.4 has been released | Tux Machines | Mar 31 01:13 | |
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| techrights-news | #HowTo Add Accent Colors in Ubuntu 22.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163165 | Mar 31 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Add Accent Colors in Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines | Mar 31 01:13 | |
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| techrights-news | Shotcut Video Editor Gets Multi-Threading for All Implicit Video Scaling and Some Video Filters • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163166 | Mar 31 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shotcut Video Editor Gets Multi-Threading for All Implicit Video Scaling and Some Video Filters | Tux Machines | Mar 31 01:14 | |
| techrights-news | What’s KernelCare? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163167 | Mar 31 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s KernelCare? | Tux Machines | Mar 31 01:14 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163168 | Mar 31 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 01:15 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ukraine-dismantles-5-disinformation-bot-farms-seizes-10-000-sim-cards/ | Mar 31 01:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Ukraine dismantles 5 disinformation bot farms, seizes 10,000 SIM cards | Mar 31 01:20 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23001468/google-search-ai-mum-personal-crisis-information | Mar 31 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google is using AI to better detect searches from people in crisis - The Verge | Mar 31 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | "When viewers watch “Fight Club” on a popular Chinese streaming platform, most of the film looks exactly as it did when it was released in 1999 — except for the apocalyptic ending. | Mar 31 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of a successful plot to destroy a series of buildings, the Chinese version of the cult classic starring Brad Pitt and Edward Norton ends with a note to viewers saying that the police “rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding.”" | Mar 31 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Mar 31 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | That doesn't sound like the police. | Mar 31 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | There's some people in Nashville who might agree. | Mar 31 01:36 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/mar/30/ronin-project-blockchain-cryptocurrency-heist | Mar 31 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Hackers stole over $500m in cryptocurrency in record-making heist, Ronin says | Cryptocurrencies | The Guardian | Mar 31 01:37 | |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nashville_bombing | Mar 31 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2020 Nashville bombing - Wikipedia | Mar 31 01:37 | |
| MinceR | it's what red china wants people to think of its police | Mar 31 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | The US too, but most people would never believe it. | Mar 31 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They really don't need to alter movies like that anymore. | Mar 31 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | In 1999 they didn't just hand the script over to the Chinese censors to begin with. | Mar 31 01:41 |
| MinceR | yeah | Mar 31 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | "As for Pitt’s character, the note says, he was sent to an asylum and later discharged. (Never mind that the character is actually a figment of Norton’s character’s imagination.)" | Mar 31 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Mar 31 01:43 |
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| DaemonFC | The cops are so good, they managed to arrest the hallucination and send THAT to the asylum. | Mar 31 01:43 |
| MinceR | yeah | Mar 31 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | "The censored ending was discovered recently by fans in China who watched it on a streaming platform owned by Tencent, a giant Chinese entertainment company." | Mar 31 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | Isn't that the one that streams movies they grabbed off of BitTorrent? | Mar 31 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | "“This is SUPER wonderful! Everyone gets a happy ending in China!” Chuck Palahniuk, the writer whose 1996 novel inspired the film, wrote sarcastically on Twitter. But he also said in an interview with TMZ on Wednesday that the censored ending was closer to the ending of his book, in which the bomb malfunctions and the narrator wakes up in a mental hospital after shooting himself." | Mar 31 01:45 |
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| DaemonFC | Shooting yourself is how the police solve it. | Mar 31 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | In Communist China you know your own guilt is so strong that you get out ahead of them. | Mar 31 01:46 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-entertainment-pirates-idUSPEK19683420070615 | Mar 31 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China censors "Pirates" for "vilifying Chinese" | Reuters | Mar 31 01:48 | |
| DaemonFC | "An early example of such censorship is “The Inescapable Snare,” a re-edited version of “Naked Ambition,” a 2003 Hong Kong film about the local sex industry. The mainland version adds a plot twist in which Hong Kong police officers team up with Beijing’s Ministry of Public Security to crack down on pornography and prostitution." | Mar 31 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | Leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Shutting down the world's oldest profession! It's a bird, it's a plane, no! It's the ...... Beijing Ministry of Public Security? | Mar 31 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYvrziE4feI | Mar 31 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EYvrziE4feI | Mar 31 01:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2v1csnMyg | Mar 31 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 | Mar 31 02:40 | |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-03-30.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-03-30.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Mar 31 02:41 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory/ | Mar 31 02:42 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory/ | Mar 31 02:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok - The Washington Post | Mar 31 02:42 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/zlib_data_bug/ | Mar 31 02:44 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/zlib_data_bug/ | Mar 31 02:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Zlib crash-an-app bug finally squashed, 17 years later • The Register | Mar 31 02:44 | |
| AdmFubar | asses have been bitten https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-files-lawsuit-to-punish-senders-of-fake-destiny-dmca-notices-220328/ | Mar 31 02:46 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-files-lawsuit-to-punish-senders-of-fake-destiny-dmca-notices-220328/ | Mar 31 02:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bungie Files Lawsuit to Punish Senders of Fake Destiny DMCA Notices * TorrentFreak | Mar 31 02:46 | |
| AdmFubar | https://torrentfreak.com/court-null-routing-is-not-a-practical-anti-piracy-measure-220325/ | Mar 31 02:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court: Null-Routing is Not a Practical Anti-Piracy Measure * TorrentFreak | Mar 31 02:52 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▇▆▃▆▆▄▅▅▅▂█▂▆▆▇▂▃▁▅▂▅▇▂▇▅▅▁▂▅▁▄▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 28.98 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂█▁▂█▁▂▂▁█▂▂▁▂▄▅▁▄▅▁▂█▁▆▁▁▂█▆▇▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 64.91▕ swarm size (avg): 355.00 ⟲ | Mar 31 02:59 |
| activelow | digging inside archives, i see, with various toolchain issues emerging (gcc-4.7 c++), gentoo migrated their portage system to new git repositories | Mar 31 03:01 |
| activelow | and some noteworthy details involved, relevant binutils/gcc in the old archives didn't support aarch64 | Mar 31 03:02 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 458304 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 39943 • Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 20 days ago | Mar 31 03:04 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmcKAXzUKRMGp3YdQETGwbF7nS2hNTSzE84u2fb9P3tEDf | Mar 31 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Mar 31 03:07 |
| activelow | at that time... year 2013-2015... things changed: aarch64 support, gcc switched to c++, gentoo migrating to git | Mar 31 03:07 |
| activelow | emergence of C11 | Mar 31 03:07 |
| activelow | not sure about llvm/clang, when this became a big deal | Mar 31 03:08 |
| activelow | and i have to dig into archives rather often... to pick up relevant ebuilds and sources | Mar 31 03:08 |
| activelow | if i didn't know, what to look for... at least it's still there | Mar 31 03:09 |
| activelow | it was kernel-4.4 little later which nuked aboriginal linux, de-stabilized some toolchain support for j-core | Mar 31 03:11 |
| activelow | and again, the old archive did contain the last supported kernel version predating 4.4; there was another leap | Mar 31 03:11 |
| activelow | obviously, some business entity had alot of control and influence, over what was done to the free software source trees, of almost everything | Mar 31 03:12 |
| activelow | kernel, toolchain, gentoo itself... and alot of things broke | Mar 31 03:12 |
| activelow | anyway, downgrading binutils, to some almost 10year old version too | Mar 31 03:15 |
| activelow | can't review all of it, yet it seems a safe bet to not rely upon recent "innovation" | Mar 31 03:15 |
| activelow | of the last decade, whenever possible | Mar 31 03:15 |
| AdmFubar | https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/nikola-tesla-in-his-laboratory | Mar 31 03:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Earthen Messages: Nikola Tesla in his Laboratory (ca. 1899) – The Public Domain Review | Mar 31 03:21 | |
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| AdmFubar | this is really creepy | Mar 31 03:24 |
| AdmFubar | https://eclecticlight.co/2022/03/27/last-week-on-my-mac-when-visual-look-up-fails/ | Mar 31 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eclecticlight.co | Last Week on My Mac: When Visual Look Up fails – The Eclectic Light Company | Mar 31 03:24 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/apparently-unwilling-to-learn-from-florida-texass-failures-georgia-moves-forward-with-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ | Mar 31 03:27 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/apparently-unwilling-to-learn-from-florida-texass-failures-georgia-moves-forward-with-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ | Mar 31 03:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apparently Unwilling To Learn From Florida & Texas’s Failures, Georgia Moves Forward With Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt | Mar 31 03:27 | |
| AdmFubar | https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/03/carbon-coated-nickel-enables-fuel-cell-free-precious-metals | Mar 31 03:33 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cornell.edu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/03/carbon-coated-nickel-enables-fuel-cell-free-precious-metals | Mar 31 03:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.cornell.edu | Carbon-coated nickel enables fuel cell free of precious metals | Cornell Chronicle | Mar 31 03:33 | |
| AdmFubar | help help!! the help files are after me! https://www.techradar.com/news/vidar-spyware-is-now-hidden-in-microsoft-help-files | Mar 31 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vidar spyware is now hidden in Microsoft help files | TechRadar | Mar 31 03:35 | |
| activelow | it is noteworthy too, both ARM and amd64 arrived at a dead end with the criteria of mine: with amd64 it is mainly UEFI which isn't accepted, and with aarch64 it is missing toolchain support with compiler and binutils | Mar 31 03:37 |
| activelow | with aarch32 it is relatively difficult, to acquire various SBC already (rockchip for example, or RPI3 not produced anymore), to plan long-term with | Mar 31 03:38 |
| activelow | at least aarch32 hardware is available, and some of it widespread; | Mar 31 03:39 |
| activelow | too, open j-core hardware is known supported with the legacy GNU software, too SPARC leon should be | Mar 31 03:40 |
| activelow | both j-core and SPARC leon support for TinyCC are missing, at least i can begin with aarch32 and repair what fails with TinyCC, step-by-step | Mar 31 03:41 |
| activelow | RISC-V isn't an option yet anyway, because it depends on recent kernel version and toolchain (binutils/gcc if i am not mistaken); and kernel updates to any later than v5.10 are ruled out currently | Mar 31 03:43 |
| activelow | instead, if anyone could confirm any later kernel version can be compiled with TinyCC, removed some C11; doubt this will happen | Mar 31 03:43 |
| activelow | it is a rather narrow path remaining only, a bleeding edge to balance onto, hoping testicles aren't hurt by accident with one step taken in error | Mar 31 03:45 |
| activelow | and proprietary mines planted everywhere | Mar 31 03:45 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-allegedly-hid-documents-from-search-monopoly-lawsuit-doj-claims/ | Mar 31 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google allegedly hid documents from search monopoly lawsuit, DOJ claims | ZDNet | Mar 31 03:57 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60870287 | Mar 31 03:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bbc.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60870287 | Mar 31 03:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Europe agrees new law to curb Big Tech dominance - BBC News | Mar 31 03:58 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.lioness.co/post/microsoft-is-using-illegal-bribes-in-the-middle-east-and-africa-why-is-the-sec-turning-a-blind-eye | Mar 31 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lioness.co | Microsoft is using illegal bribes in the Middle East and Africa. Why is the SEC turning a blind eye? | Mar 31 04:02 | |
| AdmFubar | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/03/26/0526241/watch-out-facebook-american-non-profit-creates-social-network-for-older-adults?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Mar 31 04:13 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: slashdot.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/03/26/0526241/watch-out-facebook-american-non-profit-creates-social-network-for-older-adults?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Mar 31 04:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Watch Out, Facebook. American Non-Profit Creates Social Network for Older Adults - Slashdot | Mar 31 04:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23001747/disney-dont-say-gay-bill-florida-desantis | Mar 31 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Disney wants to see Florida’s ‘Don’t Say Gay’ law repealed - The Verge | Mar 31 04:35 | |
| DaemonFC | They were for it before they were against it. | Mar 31 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | "Speaking during a trip to Canberra on Thursday at the Australian National University, Sir Jeremy Fleming, Director of GCHQ, the UK's Intelligence, Cyber and Security Agency said, “it increasingly looks like Putin has massively misjudged the situation. It’s clear he misjudged the resistance of the Ukrainian people.” | Mar 31 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fleming said Putin over-estimated the abilities of the Russian military to secure a quick victory. | Mar 31 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | “We’ve seen Russian soldiers — short of weapons and morale — refusing to carry out orders, sabotaging their own equipment and even accidentally shooting down their own aircraft,” he said without specifying when or where this took place. | Mar 31 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | “Even though we believe Putin’s advisers are afraid to tell him the truth, what’s going on and the extent of these misjudgments must be crystal clear to the regime,” he said." | Mar 31 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/30/2259245/apple-and-meta-gave-user-data-to-hackers-who-used-forged-legal-requests | Mar 31 04:42 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: slashdot.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/30/2259245/apple-and-meta-gave-user-data-to-hackers-who-used-forged-legal-requests | Mar 31 04:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Apple and Meta Gave User Data to Hackers Who Used Forged Legal Requests - Slashdot | Mar 31 04:42 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅█▃▅█▅▆▅▇▂▁▅▆▆▂▃▃▃▁▂▂▅▄▁▅▁▆▄▁▁▆▅▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 25.55 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▁█▂▃▁██▂██▁▁█▁█▁▁▆▇█▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 47.86▕ swarm size (avg): 225.96 ⟲ | Mar 31 04:59 |
| AdmFubar | it appears they are not only proud of this... but smug about it too https://gizmodo.com/nestle-denies-anonymous-hack-claims-says-it-leaked-dat-1848691484 | Mar 31 05:05 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/nestle-denies-anonymous-hack-claims-says-it-leaked-dat-1848691484 | Mar 31 05:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Nestle Denies Anonymous Hack Claims, Says It Leaked Data Itself | Mar 31 05:05 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/linux-improves-its-random-number-generator.html | Mar 31 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Improves Its Random Number Generator - Schneier on Security | Mar 31 05:07 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, March 30, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Mar 31 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Mar 31 05:10 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Mar 31 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Mar 31 05:10 | |
| techrights-news | Bribery is the main modus operandi of Microsoft; don’t fall for the lie/delusion of GitHub being a separate company http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | Mar 31 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights | Mar 31 05:13 | |
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| techrights-news | "While basic advice for compression is simple—enable it!—recordsize is a more challenging topic." https://klarasystems.com/articles/tuning-recordsize-in-openzfs/ | Mar 31 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | Tuning recordsize in OpenZFS | Klara Inc. | Mar 31 05:15 | |
| techrights-news | "I mentioned the Wordle craze, including the extant ports to the Commodore 64, in our KIMdle sorta-Wordle for the KIM-1. But the Commodore 64, and I suspect this was actually a PET game originally" https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/03/prior-art-dept-5-letter-words-jim.html | Mar 31 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oldvcr.blogspot.com | Old Vintage Computing Research: prior-art-dept.: 5 letter words (Jim Butterfield's Jotto) | Mar 31 05:15 | |
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| techrights-news | "While the author suggests there’s more to math than “rigour and proofs”, I tangentially suggest there’s more to design than data and rationality." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/more-to-design-than-data-and-rationality/ | Mar 31 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | There’s More to Design Than Data and Rationality - Jim Nielsen’s Blog | Mar 31 05:17 | |
| techrights-news | Ericsson is patent trolling... AND terrorism https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60406119 | Mar 31 05:19 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bbc.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60406119 | Mar 31 05:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ericsson says it may have paid bribes to Islamic State terrorists - BBC News | Mar 31 05:19 | |
| techrights-news | "Shareholders in Swedish telecom giant Ericsson on Tuesday sanctioned the company's board and chief executive over its handling of a corruption scandal" https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220329-shareholders-sanction-ericsson-board-over-iraq-corruption | Mar 31 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | Shareholders sanction Ericsson board over Iraq corruption | Mar 31 05:19 | |
| techrights-news | Islamic State of Ericsson https://www.reuters.com/business/ericsson-ceo-faces-investor-ire-over-handling-iraq-probe-2022-03-29/ | Mar 31 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ericsson CEO faces investor ire over handling of Iraq probe | Reuters | Mar 31 05:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Scientists said that these cryovolcanoes -- numbering perhaps 10 or more -- stand anywhere from 1 kilometer (six-tenths of a mile) to 7 kilometers (4-1/2 miles) tall" https://www.voanews.com/a/towering-ice-volcanoes-identified-on-surprisingly-vibrant-pluto-/6508968.html | Mar 31 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Towering Ice Volcanoes Identified on Surprisingly Vibrant Pluto | Mar 31 05:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Worse than McCarthyism, which only targeted individual dissenters, today’s repressive measures invade the curriculum and the classroom" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/academic-freedom-faculty-racism/ | Mar 31 05:22 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/academic-freedom-faculty-racism/ | Mar 31 05:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Across the Country, Faculty Fight to Defend Academic Freedom | The Nation | Mar 31 05:22 | |
| techrights-news | Media focus on the group which cracked Microsoft, not Microsoft having holes and lapses https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/lapsus$-breaches-software-consultancy-firm-globant,-steals-source-code.html | Mar 31 05:26 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/lapsus$-breaches-software-consultancy-firm-globant,-steals-source-code.html | Mar 31 05:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Lapsus$ breaches software consultancy firm Globant, steals source code | Mar 31 05:26 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/cyberattack-ukraine-war-affected-thousands-europe-83765998 | Mar 31 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Satellite modems nexus of worst cyberattack of Ukraine war - ABC News | Mar 31 05:27 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/03/30/globant-hacked-by-lapsus-gang.aspx | Mar 31 05:27 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: redmondmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/03/30/globant-hacked-by-lapsus-gang.aspx | Mar 31 05:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Globant Apparently Hacked by Lapsus Gang -- Redmondmag.com | Mar 31 05:27 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/MSOfficeFileScanningNeed | Mar 31 05:27 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: utoronto.ca | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/MSOfficeFileScanningNeed | Mar 31 05:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/MSOfficeFileScanningNeed | Mar 31 05:27 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://gru.gq/2022/03/29/kgb-fail-belarus-rail-the-tale/ | Mar 31 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gru.gq | KGB Fail Belarus Rail, the tale. | Mar 31 05:28 | |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D546.jpg | Mar 31 05:28 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D188.jpg | Mar 31 05:29 |
| techrights-news | "The clip of Trump asking Putin for help was published by a news website founded by John Solomon, a pro-Trump journalist whose previous coverage about the Bidens' ties to Ukraine has been discredited." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html | Mar 31 05:30 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html | Mar 31 05:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Trump brazenly asks Putin to release dirt about Biden's family - CNNPolitics | Mar 31 05:30 | |
| techrights-news | "Two senior British judges resigned from Hong Kong's highest court on Wednesday as part of a broader British rebuke of the territory's claim" https://www.voanews.com/a/british-judges-quit-hong-kong-court-over-beijing-imposed-national-security-law/6508530.html | Mar 31 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | British Judges Quit Hong Kong Court Over Beijing-Imposed National Security Law | Mar 31 05:31 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ | Mar 31 05:32 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ | Mar 31 05:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The weird world of non-C operating systems • The Register | Mar 31 05:32 | |
| techrights-news | Facebook’s status as nationalistic operation reaffirmed? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/tiktok-facebook-meta-targeted-victory-1235122641/ | Mar 31 05:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/tiktok-facebook-meta-targeted-victory-1235122641/ | Mar 31 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | TikTok “Concerned” by Facebook-Paid Campaign for Negative Coverage – The Hollywood Reporter | Mar 31 05:34 | |
| techrights-news | "The executive order was an excellent first step in the right direction. It required the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)" https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/600352-regulatory-enforcement-is-our-best-weapon-against-cyberwar | Mar 31 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Regulatory enforcement is our best weapon against cyberwar | The Hill | Mar 31 05:35 | |
| techrights-news | Facebook is a company that ought not even exist https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23003168/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory-news-column-campaign-gop | Mar 31 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook funded anti-TikTok campaign through GOP firm - The Verge | Mar 31 05:35 | |
| techrights-news | "'Getting forked' is as bad as it sounds. Developers, users, and all other sorts of resources are split." https://matt-rickard.com/threat-of-the-fork/ | Mar 31 05:36 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/threat-of-the-fork/ | Mar 31 05:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Threat of the Hard Fork | Mar 31 05:36 | |
| techrights-news | "In a statement to the Washington Post, Mr Trump said that he had never heard of the term "burner phone" and had no idea what it was" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60934574 | Mar 31 05:36 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bbc.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60934574 | Mar 31 05:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why 'burner phones' are the talk of Washington - BBC News | Mar 31 05:36 | |
| techrights-news | Social control media = Dis/Misinformation: "Some of China’s state-affiliated reporters have posited themselves as trendy Instagram influencers or bloggers" https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2022/0330/How-China-uses-influencers-to-build-a-propaganda-network | Mar 31 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How China uses social media influencers to build a propaganda network - CSMonitor.com | Mar 31 05:37 | |
| techrights-news | "In Marvel news, even with the TV-MA Netflix Marvel shows on Disney Plus, it appears there's censorship happening on The Falcon and The Winter Soldier" https://www.ign.com/videos/disney-is-censoring-some-violence-in-falcon-winter-soldier-series-ign-the-fix-entertainment | Mar 31 05:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ign.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ign.com/videos/disney-is-censoring-some-violence-in-falcon-winter-soldier-series-ign-the-fix-entertainment | Mar 31 05:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Disney+ Is Censoring Some Violence in Falcon & Winter Soldier Series - IGN The Fix: Entertainment - IGN | Mar 31 05:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Burundi's media authority announced Wednesday that it would lift a nationwide ban on the BillG [sic] Bullshit Corporation (BBC)" https://www.voanews.com/a/burundi-lifts-ban-on-bbc-after-almost-3-years/6508449.html | Mar 31 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Burundi Lifts Ban on BBC After Almost 3 Years | Mar 31 05:42 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/new-zealand-moves-to-crack-down-on-corporate-secrecy-after-pandora-papers/ | Mar 31 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.icij.org | New Zealand moves to crack down on corporate secrecy after Pandora Papers - ICIJ | Mar 31 05:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR | they needed to wait this long? | Mar 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | where is accountability? | Mar 31 05:42 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.icij.org/investigations/ericsson-list/key-analysts-urge-ericsson-investors-to-hold-ceo-accountable-for-oversight-failures/ | Mar 31 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.icij.org | Key analysts urge Ericsson investors to hold CEO accountable for oversight failures - ICIJ | Mar 31 05:42 | |
| techrights-news | "Public school districts in multiple U.S. states are grappling with — and, in some cases, acquiescing to — demands by small but vocal groups of parents to rid school libraries of certain books" https://www.voanews.com/a/us-public-school-libraries-pressured-to-remove-certain-books/6508506.html | Mar 31 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | US Public School Libraries Pressured to Remove Certain Books | Mar 31 05:43 | |
| techrights-news | "At this time we are looking into the matter." What about Jesus mug? That does offend anyone? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-60915405 | Mar 31 05:44 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bbc.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-60915405 | Mar 31 05:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colchester grammar teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad mug - BBC News | Mar 31 05:44 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ssd-edition-2021-drive-stats-review/ | Mar 31 05:47 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: backblaze.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ssd-edition-2021-drive-stats-review/ | Mar 31 05:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.backblaze.com | The SSD Edition: 2021 Drive Stats Review | Mar 31 05:47 | |
| techrights-news | Censorship https://www.davidrevoy.com/article904/how-proprietary-social-medias-are-shaping-the-future-of-peppercarrot | Mar 31 05:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | How proprietary social-medias are shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy | Mar 31 05:48 | |
| techrights-news | "Apple and Facebook parent company Meta turned over user data last year to [frauds] pretending to be law enforcement officials" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/600410-apple-meta-turned-over-user-data-to-hackers-using-forged-requests-report | Mar 31 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Apple, Meta turned over user data to hackers using forged requests: report | The Hill | Mar 31 05:50 | |
| techrights-news | "Police won't release body cam footage of disputed incident for 45 days." https://reason.com/2022/03/30/he-disarmed-a-gun-wielding-menace-in-a-san-jose-taqueria-then-the-cops-shot-him/ | Mar 31 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | He Disarmed a Gun-Wielding Menace in a San Jose Taqueria. Then the Cops Shot Him. | Mar 31 05:51 | |
| techrights-news | "Previously, Apple prohibited app developers from including any links to account sign-up pages." https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/apple-app-store-netflix-spotify-web-accounts-1235219399/ | Mar 31 05:52 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: variety.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/apple-app-store-netflix-spotify-web-accounts-1235219399/ | Mar 31 05:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Will 'Reader Apps' Like Netflix, Spotify Include Signup Links - Variety | Mar 31 05:52 | |
| techrights-news | "This emphasis on competition refers back to the simple fact that as content (rather than service) providers, legacy publishers currently enjoy monopolies" http://bjoern.brembs.net/2022/03/why-publication-services-must-not-be-negotiated/ | Mar 31 05:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bjoern.brembs.net | bjoern.brembs.blog » Why publication services must not be negotiated | Mar 31 05:53 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.databreaches.net/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/ | Mar 31 05:53 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: databreaches.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/ | Mar 31 05:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Hackers Gaining Power of Subpoena Via Fake “Emergency Data Requests” | Mar 31 05:53 | |
| techrights-news | "From 2026, electronic legal transactions should be possible completely without paper, but this could cause problems for defendants in custody." https://digit.site36.net/2022/03/30/digital-justice-german-state-of-baden-wuerttemberg-launches-electronic-criminal-file/ | Mar 31 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Digital justice: German state of Baden-Württemberg launches „electronic criminal file“ – Matthias Monroy | Mar 31 05:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: ^^ | Mar 31 05:56 |
| techrights-news | EFF outsourced to GulagTube while bagging money from Gulag https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/digital-rights-updates-effector-342 | Mar 31 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Digital Rights Updates with EFFector 34.2 | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 31 05:58 | |
| techrights-news | Finnish McCarthyism? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/nokia-busted-helping-russias-fsb-spy-on-citizens-activists-journalists/ | Mar 31 05:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/nokia-busted-helping-russias-fsb-spy-on-citizens-activists-journalists/ | Mar 31 05:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nokia Busted Helping Russia’s FSB Spy On Citizens, Activists, Journalists | Techdirt | Mar 31 05:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▄▂▃▁▁▂▂▂▄▅▅▁▄▁▅▁▄▁▇▇▁▂▁▅▆▃▅▆▇▇▅▁▅▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▅▇█▄▂▁█▂█▂▇▁█▁▂▁▁▂▁▇▁▂▁▁▂▂█▃▁ avg(k/sec) 69.28▕ swarm size (avg): 254.35 ⟲ | Mar 31 05:59 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: reminds me of a project, which i had not received my salary for yet | Mar 31 06:01 |
| activelow | i see government bureaucratic institutions created a criminal file for themselves first | Mar 31 06:02 |
| activelow | got a long hitlist | Mar 31 06:02 |
| techrights-news | Is this just Intel marketing/commercial/spam? GulagTube is getting plagued with it... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ouGH3RfjvS8 | Mar 31 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Intel Arc Dedicated GPUs and Linux: Everything You Need To Know! - Invidious | Mar 31 06:02 | |
| activelow | severe fraud; financial damage at the scale of millions of cash | Mar 31 06:02 |
| activelow | fraud by, government institutions, not some dubious scammer gang, although it's difficult to distinguish those | Mar 31 06:03 |
| techrights-news | "Considering the pace Valve has been pushing out Steam Deck Verified games anyone looking at this situation can see that something is going to go wrong and Valve is looking for your feedback to identify incorrectly verified games" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MoDFYsLu43I | Mar 31 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Gaming Is More Complex Than Valve Thought - Invidious | Mar 31 06:03 | |
| techrights-news | "About a month ago, I suddenly had the urge to learn how to create my own GTK application. In a community poll, I asked my viewers if I should do this using Haskell, and a large portion of the community wanted me to do it in Python instead." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gkyd7Uv6uJ8 | Mar 31 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Can This Non-Developer Create His Own GTK App? (Haskell & Python) - Invidious | Mar 31 06:04 | |
| techrights-news | xkcd: Rejected Question Categories ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2600/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | Mar 31 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Rejected Question Categories | Mar 31 06:04 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: xkcd.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2600/ | Mar 31 06:04 | |
| schestowitz | Systemd discusses its kernel-version needs https://lwn.net/Articles/889610/ | Mar 31 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/889610/ ) | Mar 31 06:05 | |
| schestowitz | paywall | Mar 31 06:05 |
| activelow | in parallel, german public morning tv discusses tampered videos and fakes spread... excluding their own propaganda lies of cause, as usual | Mar 31 06:07 |
| activelow | which is, to combat fake news, german public tv had to be shut down, as a most effective action, and most of the smearings sold as newspaper, dictated by atlantic bridge war criminal gang | Mar 31 06:08 |
| activelow | and their 5eyes | Mar 31 06:08 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mazda-infotainment-crash-shows-how-fragile-car-security-really-is/ | Mar 31 06:10 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mazda-infotainment-crash-shows-how-fragile-car-security-really-is/ | Mar 31 06:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Mazda Infotainment Crash Shows How Fragile Car Security Really Is | Mar 31 06:10 | |
| activelow | and it is remarkable, new german government including "Alliance90/greens" "eco" "peace" "activists" boast about 500 strela-2 rocket launchers delivered to Ukraine | Mar 31 06:11 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mars-stealer-malware-pushed-via-openoffice-ads-on-google/ | Mar 31 06:11 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mars-stealer-malware-pushed-via-openoffice-ads-on-google/ | Mar 31 06:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Mars Stealer malware pushed via OpenOffice ads on Google | Mar 31 06:11 | |
| techrights-news | Aaron Wolf on Funding Freedom-Respecting Software | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/aaron-wolf-on-funding/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/aaron-wolf-on-funding/ | Mar 31 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Aaron Wolf on Funding Freedom-Respecting Software | Techrights | Mar 31 06:14 | |
| techrights-news | Videos: GTK, Gaming, KDE neon, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163169 | Mar 31 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: GTK, Gaming, KDE neon, and More | Tux Machines | Mar 31 06:15 | |
| techrights-news | Link spam or SEO disguised as information. So much of the WWW is now just webspam. https://www.noobslab.com/2022/03/3-simple-ways-to-strengthen-your.html | Mar 31 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Simple ways to strengthen your WordPress site’s security - NoobsLab | Eye on Digital World | Mar 31 06:17 | |
| activelow | got a list of names, to create electronic criminal files for, in preparation for life-time imprisonment for their war crimes | Mar 31 06:20 |
| *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Mar 31 06:22 | |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 06:27 | |
| techrights-news | Links 31/03/2022: MirageOS 4.0 and Shotcut 22.03.30 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/mirageos-4-0/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/mirageos-4-0/ | Mar 31 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/03/2022: MirageOS 4.0 and Shotcut 22.03.30 | Techrights | Mar 31 06:28 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163170 | Mar 31 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 06:29 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163171 | Mar 31 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 06:29 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163172 | Mar 31 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 06:29 | |
| techrights-news | "The real inflation is coming from government agencies seeking to justify their waste of taxpayers’ money" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/texas-govt-threw-millions-at-border-enforcement-stats-show-it-was-a-waste-of-money/ | Mar 31 06:32 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/texas-govt-threw-millions-at-border-enforcement-stats-show-it-was-a-waste-of-money/ | Mar 31 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Texas Gov’t Threw Millions At ‘Border Enforcement.’ Stats Show It Was A Waste Of Money. | Techdirt | Mar 31 06:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Back in the day, just about everything that used a battery had a hatch or a hutch that you could open to pull it out and replace it if need be." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/replaceable-batteries-are-coming-back-to-phones-if-the-eu-gets-its-way/ | Mar 31 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Replaceable Batteries Are Coming Back To Phones If The EU Gets Its Way | Hackaday | Mar 31 06:33 | |
| techrights-news | Linux powered https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/whats-that-accessusb-menu-in-my-lg-smarttv/ | Mar 31 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What’s That AccessUSB Menu In My LG SmartTV? | Hackaday | Mar 31 06:33 | |
| techrights-news | Charles Koch, who gave money to TechDirt... https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/30/the-money-trail-to-the-ginni-thomas-emails-to-overturn-bidens-election-leads-to-charles-koch/ | Mar 31 06:38 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/30/the-money-trail-to-the-ginni-thomas-emails-to-overturn-bidens-election-leads-to-charles-koch/ | Mar 31 06:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Money Trail to the Ginni Thomas Emails to Overturn Biden’s Election Leads to Charles Koch - CounterPunch.org | Mar 31 06:38 | |
| techrights-news | SCOTUS links to insurrection https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/ginni-thomass-texts-coup-search-legal-theory-and-judicial-malfeasance https://truthout.org/articles/ocasio-cortez-calls-for-clarence-thomas-to-resign-over-wifes-ties-to-january-6/ | Mar 31 06:40 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/ginni-thomass-texts-coup-search-legal-theory-and-judicial-malfeasance | Mar 31 06:40 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/ocasio-cortez-calls-for-clarence-thomas-to-resign-over-wifes-ties-to-january-6/ | Mar 31 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Ginni Thomas's Texts: A 'Coup in Search of a Legal Theory' and Judicial Malfeasance | Steven Harper | Mar 31 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Ocasio-Cortez Calls for Clarence Thomas to Resign Over Wife’s Ties to January 6 | Mar 31 06:40 | |
| techrights-news | Boycott GulagTube https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/bungie-sues-does-over-destiny-dmca-takedowns-slams-youtubes-dmca-process/ | Mar 31 06:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/bungie-sues-does-over-destiny-dmca-takedowns-slams-youtubes-dmca-process/ | Mar 31 06:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bungie Sues Does Over ‘Destiny’ DMCA Takedowns, Slams YouTube’s DMCA Process | Techdirt | Mar 31 06:41 | |
| techrights-news | It's just a cartel https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ | Mar 31 06:42 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ | Mar 31 06:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Publishers Seem To Believe Their Outsized Sense Of Entitlement Should Trump Democracy | Techdirt | Mar 31 06:42 | |
| techrights-news | "When his new legal streaming service launched in 2021, producer and cinema investor Moshe Edery asked consumers to "leave the pirates and come to the Zionists." When millions didn't, Edery hatched plans to take down a number of pirate sites" https://torrentfreak.com/tv-boss-threatens-mastercard-visa-over-support-for-pirate-sites-220330/ | Mar 31 06:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TV Boss Threatens Mastercard & Visa Over Support For Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak | Mar 31 06:43 | |
| techrights-news | "The default judgment finds the company guilty of copyright infringement and DMCA violations, in part by promoting the Popcorn Time app." Well, promoting of mentioning Free software is NOT a crime. https://torrentfreak.com/liquidvpn-ordered-to-pay-filmmakers-14m-in-copyright-damages-220330/ | Mar 31 06:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LiquidVPN Ordered to Pay Filmmakers $14m in Copyright Damages * TorrentFreak | Mar 31 06:44 | |
| techrights-news | State-mandated malware which targets young people without their consent https://www.projectcensored.org/school-issued-technology-poses-surveillance-risks-for-students/ | Mar 31 06:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/school-issued-technology-poses-surveillance-risks-for-students/ ) | Mar 31 06:45 | |
| techrights-news | "There’s one group of people who aren’t worried about high gas prices this month: Big Oil executives." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/big-oil-should-pay-windfall-tax-offset-pain-pump | Mar 31 06:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Big Oil Should Pay Windfall Tax to Offset Pain at the Pump | Jamie Henn | Mar 31 06:49 | |
| techrights-news | Last phase of capitalism before its collapse? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/mega-billionaires-and-gushing-upward-redistribution-wealth | Mar 31 06:49 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/mega-billionaires-and-gushing-upward-redistribution-wealth | Mar 31 06:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Mega-Billionaires and the Gushing Upward Redistribution of Wealth | Robert Reich | Mar 31 06:49 | |
| techrights-news | Big Banks Dumping Trillions Into Fossil Fuels https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/30/despite-splashy-net-zero-vows-big-banks-dumping-trillions-fossil-fuels | Mar 31 06:50 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/30/despite-splashy-net-zero-vows-big-banks-dumping-trillions-fossil-fuels | Mar 31 06:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Despite 'Splashy' Net-Zero Vows, Big Banks Dumping Trillions Into Fossil Fuels | Mar 31 06:50 | |
| techrights-news | FB should not even exist https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/30/facebook-hiring-gop-firm-seen-proof-growing-ties-republican-political-machine | Mar 31 06:51 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/30/facebook-hiring-gop-firm-seen-proof-growing-ties-republican-political-machine | Mar 31 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Facebook Hiring of GOP Firm Seen as Proof of Growing Ties to 'Republican Political Machine' | Mar 31 06:51 | |
| techrights-news | the Tyranny of Big Telecom https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/30/att-fumbles-the-tyranny-of-big-telecom/ | Mar 31 06:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AT&T Fumbles: the Tyranny of Big Telecom - CounterPunch.org | Mar 31 06:57 | |
| techrights-news | Social control media is a net negative for the world https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/30/facebooks-boosting-climate-lies-pushes-skeptics-toward-denial-report | Mar 31 07:00 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/30/facebooks-boosting-climate-lies-pushes-skeptics-toward-denial-report | Mar 31 07:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Facebook's Boosting of Climate Lies Pushes 'Skeptics' Toward Denial: Report | Mar 31 07:00 | |
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| techrights-news | Censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/why-moderating-content-actually-does-more-to-support-the-principles-of-free-speech/ | Mar 31 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Moderating Content Actually Does More To Support The Principles Of Free Speech | Techdirt | Mar 31 07:02 | |
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| techrights-news | howtoforge has been inaccessible for weeks. It committed suicide by ClownFlare after about 17 years. | Mar 31 07:06 |
| techrights-news | GParted 1.4 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152#comment-33239 | Mar 31 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux Machines | Mar 31 07:07 | |
| kingoffrance | ' Why Moderating Content " the only question is who gets to be a moderator | Mar 31 07:08 |
| kingoffrance | somehow media always reduces everything to the most idiotic binary 'simp' black/white nonsense | Mar 31 07:09 |
| kingoffrance | moderation: god or the devil | Mar 31 07:09 |
| kingoffrance | you have to pick one lol | Mar 31 07:09 |
| techrights-news | “In his day job as an independent music teacher, he pushes his students to use free/libre tools and release their music under free licenses." http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/aaron-wolf-on-funding/ | Mar 31 07:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Aaron Wolf on Funding Freedom-Respecting Software | Techrights | Mar 31 07:09 | |
| kingoffrance | linus said masturbating monkeys, he was right | Mar 31 07:10 |
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| techrights-news | "Today we are looking at Fedora 36 Beta. It comes with Gnome 42, Linux kernel 5.17, and uses about 1.4 GB of ram when idling." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/03/fedora-36-beta.html https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ij5E3IXvEJI | Mar 31 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxmadesimple.info | Fedora 36 Beta | Mar 31 07:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Fedora 36 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Mar 31 07:11 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163173 | Mar 31 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 07:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: he talked about security boasting | Mar 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and self-gratification over it | Mar 31 07:13 |
| techrights-news | No April Fools, snow in Manchester | Mar 31 07:15 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows unable to delete its own files. https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-delete-file-special-char.html | Mar 31 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | How to delete files with weird characters in Windows | Mar 31 07:17 | |
| kingoffrance | eh, after reading the article is a little more nuanced, but still is left at 'who gets to define what a "community" is' | Mar 31 07:18 |
| kingoffrance | i.e. is the community the website operators or the users | Mar 31 07:18 |
| kingoffrance | some "community' members more equal than others | Mar 31 07:18 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Use Password Store to Manage Your Passwords in Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163174 | Mar 31 07:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Use Password Store to Manage Your Passwords in Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 31 07:20 | |
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| techrights-news | The term "Linux" is been bent or diluted for greenwashing PR https://time.com/6162201/open-source-green-grid/ | Mar 31 07:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Harnessing Collective Action to Green the Grid | Time | Mar 31 07:22 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163175 | Mar 31 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 31 07:22 | |
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| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] ext4 updates for 5.18-rc1 - Theodore Ts’o ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YjuYwa2jhanwyryf@mit.edu/ ䷉ Source: mit | linux | kernel | Mar 31 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] ext4 updates for 5.18-rc1 - Theodore Ts'o | Mar 31 07:27 | |
| techrights-news | parted-3.4.64 released [alpha] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152#comment-33241 | Mar 31 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux Machines | Mar 31 07:30 | |
| kingoffrance | the real danger is mixing up legal and lawful and corporations cant decide if they are "citizens" (who are supposed to uphold 'principles' ) | Mar 31 07:31 |
| *kingoffrance slap im a citizen! slap im a private business slap i have political slogans everywhere and tell people to vote slap i dont do politics | Mar 31 07:32 | |
| kingoffrance | schizo corporations, as always | Mar 31 07:32 |
| *kingoffrance slap i only exist with limited liability from gov slap i owe you nothing, your privileges are at my behest slap men create gov slap legal is all there is | Mar 31 07:33 | |
| kingoffrance | its like a split personality lol | Mar 31 07:33 |
| kingoffrance | the omnipresent forked tongue lol | Mar 31 07:34 |
| kingoffrance | my hand hurts , too much detective work | Mar 31 07:35 |
| techrights-news | Profiting From Inefficiency With DRM | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/drm-talk/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/drm-talk/ | Mar 31 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Profiting From Inefficiency With DRM | Techrights | Mar 31 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe launches April 27 | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-launches-april-27/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Mar 31 07:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe launches April 27 | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 07:41 | |
| techrights-news | Want to Work in IT? 6 Reasons to Check out Linux ⚓ https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/03/30/want-to-work-in-it-6-reasons-to-check-out-linux/ ䷉ Source: ClearanceJobs | Mar 31 07:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.clearancejobs.com | Want to Work in IT? 6 Reasons to Check out Linux - ClearanceJobs | Mar 31 07:43 | |
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| kingoffrance | part of the reason i have little sympathy for the "moderation is not censorship" is not that there is not miles of useless "debate" ...but that if there is only legal entities, they are all "gov actors" (indirectly). gov magically waves a wand and says "this agent of mine is not gov" | Mar 31 08:18 |
| kingoffrance | it is "gov" being schizophrenic ultimately | Mar 31 08:18 |
| kingoffrance | corporations are just an extension of "gov" cant make up its mind | Mar 31 08:19 |
| kingoffrance | there is no answer in usa...it wasnt designd for corporations, it was designed for farmers | Mar 31 08:19 |
| kingoffrance | "if we ever allow cities to spring up here like they have in europe, we will become as corrupt as they are' (paraphrase, jefferson) | Mar 31 08:20 |
| kingoffrance | well, here we are lol | Mar 31 08:20 |
| kingoffrance | its conflicting definitions of 'community' | Mar 31 08:24 |
| kingoffrance | that, is entirely the fault of corporations | Mar 31 08:24 |
| kingoffrance | and "gov" saying they are "citizens" | Mar 31 08:25 |
| kingoffrance | that word was always two-sided because one version meant 'city' | Mar 31 08:26 |
| kingoffrance | its like the "state" thing, its eternal confusion of tongues at this point :/ | Mar 31 08:29 |
| kingoffrance | a corporation is an artificial person, even a "citizen" ...only existing with gov charter/granted privileges, but not a people (by of for the people gov). they slyly take advantage of the parts that benefit, and point at 'gov" as some separate entity | Mar 31 08:34 |
| kingoffrance | (which it is not, it is the only thing giving them any "existence") | Mar 31 08:35 |
| kingoffrance | they are a big part of 'state' confusion of tongues when they do that. anyways lol :) | Mar 31 08:35 |
| kingoffrance | "by of for the people" was never designed for such schizo things | Mar 31 08:36 |
| activelow | question is, the _constitutional_ state at stake | Mar 31 08:39 |
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| activelow | whatever entity, and even democratical or not, if any entity complies with law and order | Mar 31 08:40 |
| activelow | insofar, EU is deligitimized, because of systematic violation of all relevant EU conracts, for example | Mar 31 08:41 |
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| activelow | leave alone, the _historical_ deligitimacy of EU, which is based upon forced displacement and murder of dozens of millions, of, germans | Mar 31 08:42 |
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| activelow | what an irony, the church, as one such business entity, german TV broadcasted some clitter and kitsch, about their "opposition", to bless absolute rulers | Mar 31 08:43 |
| activelow | except for one, the church supposedly didn't bless as any other before | Mar 31 08:44 |
| kingoffrance | well, i dont buy the sov citizen theory that things magically switched to incorporated. nevertheless, the terms are messed up. there are incorporated counties now. that was already a thing. it was called....a city | Mar 31 08:45 |
| kingoffrance | "sov citizen" is even funnier, it was a thing in europe 'republics". but it didnt mean anything except you could withdraw consent. | Mar 31 08:45 |
| kingoffrance | its like saying "im warning you, i will turn this car around" | Mar 31 08:46 |
| activelow | EU recessed below the historical state of Napoleon Bonarparte | Mar 31 08:47 |
| activelow | Banaparte | Mar 31 08:47 |
| activelow | Bonaparte | Mar 31 08:47 |
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| activelow | anyway; for example, the trivial pre-condition, to register all inhabitants, birth and death certificates, and immigrants | Mar 31 08:47 |
| activelow | as, a pre-condition, for any social order | Mar 31 08:47 |
| activelow | sure, corporations may not bother, if an inhabitant has any legal status, at least formally | Mar 31 08:48 |
| activelow | yet, EU "deconstructed" even the mere formality of law and order | Mar 31 08:49 |
| activelow | then they say, it is "freedom", and "democracy", rarely do they talk, about law and order, and the consitutional state | Mar 31 08:49 |
| activelow | a medieval age monarchy couldn't be much worse than EU ruling, if a monarch followed a constitution and law and order | Mar 31 08:50 |
| kingoffrance | i dont know, i just know the language is corrupted seemingly beyond repair | Mar 31 08:55 |
| kingoffrance | its like operator overloading ran amok | Mar 31 08:55 |
| kingoffrance | or function overloading, same name different number of parameters, different behavior | Mar 31 08:56 |
| activelow | in a _constitutional_ state, a basic principle, to follow law and order, is the clear identificiation of legal subjects | Mar 31 08:57 |
| kingoffrance | yes. it is very much right to face your accuser too | Mar 31 08:57 |
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| kingoffrance | *very much part of | Mar 31 08:58 |
| activelow | this basic principle, it's sabotaged, intentionally, it's irelevant which name is given to this | Mar 31 08:58 |
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| activelow | EU cannot exist anymore, in compliance with any _constution_, with law and order in place | Mar 31 08:59 |
| activelow | law and order, a _consitutional_ state isn't possible anymore, in EU | Mar 31 08:59 |
| activelow | because the entire political and economic apparatus, flourished, on the basis to degenarte law and order, and any morals implied | Mar 31 09:00 |
| activelow | besides, the _historical_ deligitimacy of EU wasn't finalized 1945, the final stroke, to hammer this unjustice into stone was year 1990 | Mar 31 09:01 |
| activelow | and the so-called "re-unification", which never happened | Mar 31 09:01 |
| kingoffrance | "the trivial pre-condition, to register all inhabitants, birth and death certificates, and immigrants" i agree with that | Mar 31 09:03 |
| kingoffrance | but thats why it will always be chicken and egg for usa....men create gov. who gave them birth certificates? noone | Mar 31 09:03 |
| kingoffrance | so i am not arguing against that, just the "legal" follows | Mar 31 09:04 |
| kingoffrance | it is more about preserving hierarchy than trying to return to "natural rights" or whatever | Mar 31 09:04 |
| kingoffrance | if the hierarchy is screwed, everything becomes twisted | Mar 31 09:04 |
| kingoffrance | there's a maxim, something like if the order of things is lost, everythinig is thrown into confusion | Mar 31 09:05 |
| kingoffrance | *was. noone does those anymore :) | Mar 31 09:05 |
| kingoffrance | its more like the not wanting to require c++ for a c compiler :) | Mar 31 09:06 |
| kingoffrance | you can cross that line, but it is difficult to go back once crossed | Mar 31 09:08 |
| kingoffrance | or like matey said. if the cause and effect is lost, there is no longer any meaning | Mar 31 09:27 |
| kingoffrance | people do eventually swing back around to ye olde maxims, they jsut dont realize it :) | Mar 31 09:28 |
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| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/irc-log-300322/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/irc-log-300322/ | Mar 31 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 | Techrights | Mar 31 10:07 | |
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| techrights-news | A Visit to Uni gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220330-a-visit-to-uni.gmi familiar feeling. | Mar 31 10:17 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu Users Get Small Linux Kernel Security Update with Only Two Flaws Patched • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163176 | Mar 31 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Users Get Small Linux Kernel Security Update with Only Two Flaws Patched | Tux Machines | Mar 31 10:18 | |
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| techrights-news | "I don't use reddit much but I subscribe to the san francisco subreddit, and it is insane to me how awful the political opinions there. Really terrible, racist stuff, from people who probably consider themselves to be "liberal"" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Mar 31 10:25 |
| techrights-news | "I don't use reddit much but I subscribe to the san francisco subreddit, and it is insane to me how awful the political opinions there. Really terrible, racist stuff, from people who probably consider themselves to be "liberal"" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Mar 31 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | "written on Pinephone keyboard | Mar 31 10:26 |
| schestowitz | on loft bed in garage" gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/phlog/2022-03-02-lent.txt | Mar 31 10:26 |
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| techrights-news | "I tried tin, trn, slrn for Usenet without success (i can't browse older posts). But maybe I don't have enough time for configuration. If mutt is better solution, you could write some tutorial. There are no many about it on the web." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Mar 31 10:27 |
| techrights-news | The correlation between the battle against corruption and the importance of Free software (privacy, source protection) merits special attention. Maybe next year I'll submit a talk proposal for LibrePlanet. | Mar 31 10:34 |
| techrights-news | The 7 Best Browsers for Old and Low-End Computers ⚓ https://www.makeuseof.com/best-browsers-old-low-end-computers/ ䷉ Source: makeuseof | Mar 31 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The 7 Best Browsers for Old and Low-End Computers | Mar 31 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | Another GNU Poke Release (2.3) and Video • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163177 | Mar 31 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Another GNU Poke Release (2.3) and Video | Tux Machines | Mar 31 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | BSDNow: "Controlling Resource Limits with rctl in FreeBSD, It’s always DNS, Google Summer of Code in BSD Projects, Rsync Technical Notes - Q4 2021, Userland CPU frequency scheduling for OpenBSD, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/448 | Mar 31 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 448: Controlling Resource Limits | Mar 31 10:46 | |
| techrights-news | Steam Deck gets a big Client update, plus Deck OS and BIOS BETA update | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-gets-a-big-client-update-plus-deck-os-and-bios-beta-update/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Mar 31 10:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Deck gets a big Client update, plus Deck OS and BIOS BETA update | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 10:53 | |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, FLOSS Weekly, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163178 | Mar 31 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, FLOSS Weekly, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) | Tux Machines | Mar 31 10:54 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163179 | Mar 31 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 31 10:55 | |
| *matey (~matey@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 10:56 | |
| SomeH4x0r | hi | Mar 31 10:57 |
| matey | hi | Mar 31 10:58 |
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| matey | yesterday i found out what was meant by "it does devanagari right" | Mar 31 11:02 |
| matey | i made a "virtual keyboard" with js and compared it to tk | Mar 31 11:02 |
| matey | the virtual keyboard combines glyphs, tk doesnt | Mar 31 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | <techrights-news> "I don't use reddit much but I subscribe to the san francisco subreddit, and it is insane to me how awful the political opinions there. Really terrible, racist stuff, from people who probably consider themselves to be "liberal"" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Mar 31 11:03 |
| matey | so for some writing systems there appears to be no option (perhaps) unless you want to go with a stallman backstabber using github too | Mar 31 11:03 |
| matey | that really really sucks. it also shows the need for a fork imo. | Mar 31 11:03 |
| matey | github: "haha, you cant write your own alphabet without ME" | Mar 31 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, like I said. The "liberals" are the worst. They're patently offensive. They're the ones that won't even say "black people" but are the ones keeping them down with welfare programs instead of creating employment opportunities, lower taxes, and more housing (which brings down prices). | Mar 31 11:04 |
| matey | i wish it were fud, i know 0 alternatives | Mar 31 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | All of those things are the polar opposite of what liberals want. It disgusts them that there are any semi-decent people left in this country. | Mar 31 11:04 |
| matey | but are the ones keeping them down with welfare programs instead of creating employment opportunities <- this is partly true | Mar 31 11:05 |
| matey | its more true to say that both sides are keeping them down without employment opportunities | Mar 31 11:05 |
| matey | but they have a different way of hiding the truth | Mar 31 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | Generational poverty is pretty much defined by how easy it is to get on welfare. And the blue states make it easy to get welfare and hard to get work. | Mar 31 11:06 |
| matey | the "liberals" hide the truth with programs too meagre to do anything but keep people in a rut-- thats your position, and i happen to think its mostly true | Mar 31 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois has tens of thousands of welfare agency employees and the worst jobs situation in America. | Mar 31 11:06 |
| matey | Generational poverty is pretty much defined by how easy it is to get on welfare. <- by whom | Mar 31 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's a poverty trap. | Mar 31 11:06 |
| matey | the "right" hides the truth by pretending that if not for all this welfare, everyone would have work-- which imo is sometimes a lot more bullshit than the bullshit from the "liberals" | Mar 31 11:06 |
| matey | but its a nice theory. | Mar 31 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | Entitlement programs are there to soothe public anger over the Democrats fucking up their job opportunities. | Mar 31 11:07 |
| matey | It's a poverty trap. <- in its present implementation, absolutely | Mar 31 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | So they can get through the next election. | Mar 31 11:07 |
| matey | Entitlement programs <- propaganda term imo | Mar 31 11:07 |
| matey | are there to soothe public anger over the Democrats fucking up their job opportunities <- i agree partially | Mar 31 11:07 |
| techrights-news | Games: Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, Microsoft Issues, and Steam Deck Client Update • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163180 | Mar 31 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, Microsoft Issues, and Steam Deck Client Update | Tux Machines | Mar 31 11:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Entitlement programs are literally what they are. You meet the criteria, you are legally entitled to the program. | Mar 31 11:08 |
| matey | this is what welfare has been perfverted into | Mar 31 11:08 |
| matey | and its the only sort of thing that will exist under this completely broken political system too | Mar 31 11:08 |
| matey | the right isnt going to get their hard working rightopia | Mar 31 11:09 |
| matey | and the left-- is full of shit, like you said | Mar 31 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is down 200,000 jobs vs. March 2020. If the Democrats hadn't killed us completely and we had just followed the national average, we'd be down 100,000. | Mar 31 11:09 |
| matey | "left" | Mar 31 11:09 |
| matey | If the Democrats hadn't killed us completely <- i dont doubt the democrats have fucked chicago to death | Mar 31 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | This proves that the Democrat policies themselves are responsible for half the total losses during COVID. | Mar 31 11:09 |
| matey | i doubt the right could (or even would) fix it | Mar 31 11:09 |
| matey | if the gutted a lot of democrat bullshit i can tell you what would happen | Mar 31 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're demanding that we vote for Amendment 1 this year, which would elevate public employees above the law. | Mar 31 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | And only them! | Mar 31 11:10 |
| matey | for a year or two, things would look destined to improve | Mar 31 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | With the union contracts. | Mar 31 11:10 |
| matey | then it would be shittier than ever. not because it was working before, but because a different kind of broken gives people false hope | Mar 31 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to vote no, for certain. | Mar 31 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | They already do pretty much fuck all. There was even one of them who spent years at "work" doing nothing but her Amazon shopping. | Mar 31 11:11 |
| techrights-news | It says "secure software supply chain breaches like Solar Winds [3], Kaseya[4]," but that's Windows and proprietary software https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/secure-software-supply-chains-good-practices-at-scale/ | Mar 31 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Secure software supply chains: good practices, at scale - Linux Foundation | Mar 31 11:11 | |
| DaemonFC | And nobody caught her, and then 5 years in, they finally asked her to leave. | Mar 31 11:11 |
| matey | walmart? | Mar 31 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Her coworkers complained she did no work, just Amazon shopping and printing out her receipts using the state's printers. | Mar 31 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | No, an Illinois state worker. | Mar 31 11:11 |
| matey | wow | Mar 31 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois Policy covered this. | Mar 31 11:11 |
| matey | yeah there was similer fuckery under stallman | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | dammit | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | stalin | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | fucking muscle memory. if i said immune system it would have a d on it | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | immune systemd | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | anyway | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | under stalin, the bureaucracy was above the law | Mar 31 11:12 |
| matey | they diverted 2/3 of everything to themselves | Mar 31 11:13 |
| techrights-news | FSF Award ceremony & Saturday Closing notes https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/fsf-award-ceremony-saturday-closing-notes/ | Mar 31 11:13 |
| matey | paid themselves to get fat and (relatively) wealthy | Mar 31 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | FSF Award ceremony & Saturday Closing notes — GNU MediaGoblin | Mar 31 11:13 | |
| matey | it was a system based on corruption (a bit like chicago) | Mar 31 11:13 |
| matey | and arguably (if superfically) left wing! | Mar 31 11:13 |
| matey | like the democrats | Mar 31 11:13 |
| matey | stalin wasnt comfortable having all the workers armed | Mar 31 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is like this, but Chicago particularly. | Mar 31 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats hide your tax money in slush funds. | Mar 31 11:14 |
| matey | if they had all been armed the first famine would have been the last for the bureaucracy | Mar 31 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Usually, it gets embezzled and when that's not the case, for vote buying. | Mar 31 11:15 |
| matey | of course the idea was to have democracy, if you can believe it | Mar 31 11:15 |
| matey | but if the democracy fails, and the bureaucracy is corrupt, and making themselves fat on starving everyone else | Mar 31 11:16 |
| matey | thats why you arm all the workers | Mar 31 11:16 |
| matey | the funny thing about everyone being armed is | Mar 31 11:16 |
| matey | you dont even need to shoot a lot of the time | Mar 31 11:16 |
| matey | if thousands of people with a right to bear arms show up to the people creating a nationwide famine for fucks sake | Mar 31 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | If it looks questionable as to whether your alderman will be re-elected then what happens is that he goes on a spending spree in the areas of his ward where they hate him the most. | Mar 31 11:17 |
| matey | they might not even have to point at them. the message is pretty clear-- gtfo, or stay and see what happens | Mar 31 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | All of a sudden, there's city workers there patching all of the potholes in the neighborhood precincts that he didn't do well in last election. | Mar 31 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | Elections are as much about keeping people who don't like you away from the polls as they are about making sure "the right people" vote. | Mar 31 11:18 |
| matey | sure | Mar 31 11:18 |
| techrights-news | FSF Staff at LibrePlanet • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163181 | Mar 31 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Staff at LibrePlanet | Tux Machines | Mar 31 11:18 | |
| DaemonFC | People who hit the same pothole every morning right before work vote, for the other guy. | Mar 31 11:18 |
| matey | but to be fair | Mar 31 11:18 |
| matey | youre talking about elections in a situation where a. people are not educated about democracy and b. its a farce to say people demand it | Mar 31 11:18 |
| matey | people demand elections-- if they gave a shit about "democracy" the elections would be NOTHING LIKE THIS | Mar 31 11:19 |
| matey | this is almost-fake democracy. almost fake as in theres a left-wing constitutional law professor (at harvard) explaining in detail why BASICALLY EVERY ELECTION is a farce. | Mar 31 11:19 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Mono causing problems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163180#comment-33242 | Mar 31 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, Microsoft Issues, and Steam Deck Client Update | Tux Machines | Mar 31 11:19 | |
| matey | almost fake not like the trump people said | Mar 31 11:19 |
| matey | if anything, democracy did a rare thing (its job) in getting him out... | Mar 31 11:20 |
| matey | but im sure even amazon shopper did her job on the rarest of occasions | Mar 31 11:20 |
| matey | if it just kept her in the position longer. | Mar 31 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I'm not sure, but I think Kazakhstan probably has more democratic elections than Illinois does. | Mar 31 11:20 |
| matey | anything is possible eh | Mar 31 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | And the government there is definitely much more corrupt and repressive. | Mar 31 11:20 |
| techrights-news | "In Firefox 98, we’re shipping a new version of the existing Performance panel. This panel is now based on the Firefox profiler tool that can be used to capture a performance profile for a web page, inspect visualized performance data and analyze it to identify slow areas." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/03/performance-tool-in-firefox-devtools-reloaded/ | Mar 31 11:21 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/03/performance-tool-in-firefox-devtools-reloaded/ | Mar 31 11:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Performance Tool in Firefox DevTools Reloaded - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog | Mar 31 11:21 | |
| matey | yeah | Mar 31 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | Just giving people direct control over who is in power is not always the best call. | Mar 31 11:21 |
| matey | it depends | Mar 31 11:21 |
| matey | in a truly backwards country, democracy does kind of what youd expect it to | Mar 31 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | Governor Pritzker is finally getting pushback. The Illinois Senate (Democrat supermajority.) just rejected his parole board nominee yesterday, and threatene another one into resigning. | Mar 31 11:22 |
| matey | people have to be literate, they have to be educated (beyond simply knowing how to read, which of course is very important as a starting point) and they have to understand the government theyre participating in | Mar 31 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | The legislature was going to go into impeachment mode next. | Mar 31 11:22 |
| matey | otherwise its only PART of a democracy-- with or without non-fake elections | Mar 31 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently when you parole ax murderers and people who raped and shot a teenage boy in the Cook County forest preserves in 1972, it's fine. | Mar 31 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | But when you get to a cop killer, heads roll. | Mar 31 11:23 |
| techrights-news | Canonical/Ubuntu: "we are announcing a start of The Telco Podcast, which you can find ... favorite platforms like Spotify or Apple Podcasts." WHAT? https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-telco-podcast | Mar 31 11:23 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-telco-podcast | Mar 31 11:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Telco Podcast | Ubuntu | Mar 31 11:23 | |
| matey | some people are more equal than others | Mar 31 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | For now, we're safe from the parole board. With the empty seats, it can't convene to make any decisions. | Mar 31 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully there's a logjam and the seats stay empty. | Mar 31 11:23 |
| techrights-news | "LXD and Docker are not competing container technologies, and they tend to serve completely different purposes. In this blog, we’ll briefly discuss the differences and the suitable use cases for both." https://ubuntu.com//blog/lxd-vs-docker | Mar 31 11:24 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/lxd-vs-docker | Mar 31 11:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXD vs Docker | Ubuntu | Mar 31 11:24 | |
| matey | how does that work | Mar 31 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | They have to have a quorum to meet andd decide parole cases. | Mar 31 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | Since the empty seats count towards the quorum, they can't meet. | Mar 31 11:24 |
| matey | the direction things are going in is to put a computer in charge of that | Mar 31 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's better that it stays that way. | Mar 31 11:24 |
| matey | with hey hi | Mar 31 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | Just don't let anyone out on parole. | Mar 31 11:25 |
| matey | Just don't let anyone out on parole. <- heres the thing | Mar 31 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, what do you think will happen? Nobody hires felons and they were bad enough to imprison in the first place. | Mar 31 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Let them rot. | Mar 31 11:25 |
| matey | you were wrongfully arrested, yes? | Mar 31 11:25 |
| matey | and you got off, i believe | Mar 31 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was a misdemeanor. | Mar 31 11:25 |
| matey | so parole was never necessary (which is good, because you were wrongfully arrested) | Mar 31 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Jail wasn't a likely outcome much less prison (impossible). | Mar 31 11:25 |
| matey | i thought they tried to make it worse with some bs | Mar 31 11:25 |
| techrights-news | "A key principle of open source computing is the ability for users to directly engage with development efforts.." Well, then speak about FREE software, where benefits are vastly more profound https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-keys-to-successful-bug-reporting | Mar 31 11:26 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-keys-to-successful-bug-reporting | Mar 31 11:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Keys to Successful Bug Reporting | Ubuntu | Mar 31 11:26 | |
| matey | jack it up to a felony | Mar 31 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Had the prosecutor insisted on calling it Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon in the plea deal or on jail time, I would have rejected it and gone to trial. | Mar 31 11:26 |
| matey | but i guess my point is | Mar 31 11:26 |
| matey | well | Mar 31 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | I basically told him that (through my attorney). | Mar 31 11:26 |
| matey | i guess youre confident that if you ended up in there in the first place-- or that you wouldnt unless it was a legitimate charge | Mar 31 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | I said if they insisted on either one, then we would have gone to trial and I would at least go down wasting as much of the prosecutor's time as possible. | Mar 31 11:27 |
| matey | and possibly end up needing parole? | Mar 31 11:27 |
| matey | thats my only point in mentioning it of course | Mar 31 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | You don't get parole from probation. | Mar 31 11:28 |
| matey | okay fair enough | Mar 31 11:28 |
| matey | i doubted that theres a part of it you havent thought through | Mar 31 11:28 |
| matey | youre very thorough and all | Mar 31 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | What I'm really saying is that if there's any redeeming qualities about these people they parole, then they should be burying their criminal record before they let them out so they can adjust and get a job instead of absconding and reoffending. | Mar 31 11:29 |
| techrights-news | Canonical/Ubuntu: Telcos, Containers, Charmed Operator SDK, and Bug Reporting • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163182 | Mar 31 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | And if there's obviously no hope at reform, keep them in prison. | Mar 31 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu: Telcos, Containers, Charmed Operator SDK, and Bug Reporting | Tux Machines | Mar 31 11:29 | |
| techrights-news | “Adrian is programmer who has worked on visualizing shared vocabularies with SKOS, privacy-conscious blogging Web sites, and various contract work. This talk is about the excellent alternative entertainment you can enjoy without resorting to DRM or piracy.” http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/drm-talk/ | Mar 31 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Profiting From Inefficiency With DRM | Techrights | Mar 31 11:29 | |
| DaemonFC | The "obviously no hope at reform" people are the serial killers and rapists that Pritzker's people let out to abscond. | Mar 31 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | The reason they got themselves in trouble was he couldn't get the one they rejected past them the first time. | Mar 31 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | So he used a recess appointment. | Mar 31 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | But her recess term expired and they had to do an up or down vote, so she's gone now. | Mar 31 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | At the federal level, recess appointments are basically gone now. | Mar 31 11:31 |
| techrights-news | ICBM Fedora doesn't value software freedom. It continues to outsource development to proprietary software controlled 100% by criminals at Microsoft. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-IoT-Better-Onboarding | Mar 31 11:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Looks To Better Onboarding For IoT/Edge Devices - Phoronix | Mar 31 11:31 | |
| DaemonFC | What happens is that the Senate goes into "pro forma sessions" over the breaks so that they can declare there's no business that day and then leave. | Mar 31 11:31 |
| matey | What I'm really saying is that if there's any redeeming qualities about these people they parole <- i mean thats the whole point | Mar 31 11:32 |
| matey | so thats good probably | Mar 31 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | Even when Trump was in office, Mitch McConnell held those sessions to stop Trump from appointing anyone without the Senate's approval. | Mar 31 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't trust their own president with it. | Mar 31 11:32 |
| matey | nor should they | Mar 31 11:32 |
| matey | whats he up to now | Mar 31 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | McConnell? Minority Leader | Mar 31 11:33 |
| matey | i mean trump | Mar 31 11:33 |
| *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Mar 31 11:33 | |
| DaemonFC | Camped out in Florida continuing to air his grievances. He's sued Hillary Clinton recently. | Mar 31 11:33 |
| matey | lol | Mar 31 11:33 |
| matey | maybe she will drone him | Mar 31 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Claiming that he was damaged by the Russia dossier in an election he won. | Mar 31 11:34 |
| matey | showing who wears the pants in the former-white-house family | Mar 31 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | He's obviously worried that Russia Russia Russia will be the theme if he comes back. | Mar 31 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then he's so worried that he got on OANN yesterday and asked Putin directly to release damaging information about the Bidens. | Mar 31 11:34 |
| matey | He's obviously worried that Russia Russia Russia <- i cant think of any reason why people would choose NOW to make a big deal about russia, no | Mar 31 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Moscow Mitch | Mar 31 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's possible he's not entirely stable. | Mar 31 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | Moscow Hitched | Mar 31 11:35 |
| matey | i dont know if minority leader is an impeachable position? | Mar 31 11:35 |
| matey | i swear theres some "equivalent" but its not impeachment, but if i knew i wouldnt be asking | Mar 31 11:35 |
| matey | something i think i heard a year or two ago | Mar 31 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/31/tech/china-tech-unemployment-crisis-xi-challenge-intl-hnk/index.html | Mar 31 11:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Unemployment crisis: China's tech layoffs could become a self-inflicted headache for Xi - CNN | Mar 31 11:36 | |
| techrights-news | Web: Curl, Mozilla Firefox, Rust, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163183 | Mar 31 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Web: Curl, Mozilla Firefox, Rust, and More | Tux Machines | Mar 31 11:36 | |
| matey | oh, bother | Mar 31 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | "According to Lagou, one of China's largest tech recruitment websites, 2.76 million tech employees marked their status on the platform as "left the job" in March — 260,000 more than in December and about 60,000 more than the same month last year. Most of the job losses were concentrated in major cities such as Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, and Shanghai, Lagou added. " | Mar 31 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | THEY TOOK MY JOB! | Mar 31 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: stay in your lane, CNN | Mar 31 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the US economy is rotting | Mar 31 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | THEY TOOK HIS JERB! DEY TOOK HIS JERB!!!! DERKA DERRRRRRRR!!!!! | Mar 31 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | China is at least still producing thingds | Mar 31 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | *things | Mar 31 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | WshPo (Bezos) is the same, wrt to Russia esp. | Mar 31 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Whataboutism. | Mar 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | US economy: JOB GROWTH!! | Mar 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Russia: haha! ( (Nelson voice) | Mar 31 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, the US "tech" companies fire lots of people. | Mar 31 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Unreported. | Mar 31 11:37 |
| matey | China is at least still producing thingds <- yes slave labour has a way of propping up an economy | Mar 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:36] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- edition.cnn.com | Unemployment crisis: China's tech layoffs could become a self-inflicted headache for Xi - CNN | Mar 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Xi Biden | Mar 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this is CNN | Mar 31 11:38 |
| matey | say it like james earl jones | Mar 31 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | Unemployment crisis: US layoffs could become a self-inflicted headache for Biden | Mar 31 11:38 |
| matey | "THIS is C N NNNNN" | Mar 31 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just moved the words around alittle | Mar 31 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | Biden ... GREAT STUFF! | Mar 31 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:37] <DaemonFC> Meanwhile, the US "tech" companies fire lots of people. | Mar 31 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | False | Mar 31 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they "don' renew the contract" | Mar 31 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know how it goes | Mar 31 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | permatemps | Mar 31 11:39 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR bad news about harfbuzz | Mar 31 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | EPO has adopted a similar model | Mar 31 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "thank you for your service, goodbye!" | Mar 31 11:39 |
| matey | it really isnt fluff | Mar 31 11:39 |
| matey | i really dont know how they did text without it before. :/ | Mar 31 11:40 |
| matey | i mean obviously, roman text is a piece of cake. | Mar 31 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | what happens if it is removed? | Mar 31 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | suppose I just used latin charsets | Mar 31 11:40 |
| matey | well let me illustrate with roman text | Mar 31 11:40 |
| matey | instead of k you get | < | Mar 31 11:40 |
| matey | or |[] | Mar 31 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/economy/us-job-openings-quits-february/index.html | Mar 31 11:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/economy/us-job-openings-quits-february/index.html | Mar 31 11:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | The great resignation continues: 4.4 million Americans quit their jobs last month - CNN | Mar 31 11:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | hahaha | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | "great resignation" lie | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I LOVE that lie | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | people QUIT | Mar 31 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | THEY QUIT THEIR JERB! DEY QUIT THEIR JERB!!!! DERKA DERRRRRRRR!!!!! | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the economy is SOOO GOOD | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | that people just leave | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | blame the peasants | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM promotes this lie all the time | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | CNN | Mar 31 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | WashPo says the same | Mar 31 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | See, that's why I ignore those sites | Mar 31 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I got Mandy in on the DERKA DERRRRRRR! joke (from South Park). I told him that people don't like immigrants because they see them as competition for "their" job. | Mar 31 11:42 |
| matey | wazos | Mar 31 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they'ere "lying press" | Mar 31 11:42 |
| matey | bepo | Mar 31 11:42 |
| matey | the beez | Mar 31 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile "they" (the citizens) get fired for standing around doing nothing and stealing Cokes out of the machine. | Mar 31 11:42 |
| matey | /me likes "bepo | Mar 31 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they never criticise SweatshopZone | Mar 31 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is what I call amazon | Mar 31 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it managed not only to profit from chinese sweatshos | Mar 31 11:43 |
| matey | "but american ones as well! | Mar 31 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to also treat its own direct stuff poorluy | Mar 31 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | like puting them in sweaty jobvs running around, then discarded after 2 years when they get injured and burned out... and MIGHT - gasp - unionise | Mar 31 11:43 |
| matey | amazon: we "fulfil" customers by creating sweatshops to draw more work out of sweatshops | Mar 31 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Coke is pretty twisted. They bought articles praising themselves for this model they have to standardize the flavor of their orange juice year round. | Mar 31 11:44 |
| matey | then we call the sweatshops "fulfilment centres" like that isnt right out of fucking 1984 | Mar 31 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 31 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | like it's santo HQ | Mar 31 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Supposedly, they can control for factors like weather, crop yield, types of oranges, etc. | Mar 31 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *santa | Mar 31 11:44 |
| matey | happy little elves | Mar 31 11:44 |
| matey | sprinkling pixie dust into every carton of goods | Mar 31 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "fulfilment" | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | fulfilment is 5pm | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they finally let you use the bathroom | Mar 31 11:45 |
| matey | they can name the delivery drones dasher, dancer, comet, cupid etc | Mar 31 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | "The Dark Side leaks to powers some would call...............UNNATURAL." < ----- Like Coca Cola orange juice tasting exactly the same with every bottle. | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you can take off the spying bracelet | Mar 31 11:45 |
| matey | one drone has a big red light on the front | Mar 31 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Natural things don't do that! | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | they stop scoring you until the next day | Mar 31 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Mar 31 11:45 |
| matey | oh wait no, its a laser | Mar 31 11:45 |
| matey | and you can take off the spying bracelet <- "hey, these guys put bracelets on criminals-- LETS TREAT OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WAY!" | Mar 31 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | And they never put their name anywhere. They're like Microsoft. It's never Coca Cola orange juice. | Mar 31 11:46 |
| matey | that sounds like a sure road to "fulfilment" | Mar 31 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | Coca Cola knows their own name is toxic, and calls it Simply Orange instead. | Mar 31 11:46 |
| matey | coca cola orange juice sounds pretty disgusting | Mar 31 11:46 |
| matey | also minute maid | Mar 31 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | They don't want "consumers" to know how few choices there really are at the store. | Mar 31 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | That a few companies run all of the "brands". | Mar 31 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | old tactic | Mar 31 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they even buy health drunks | Mar 31 11:46 |
| matey | or does pepsi own that now | Mar 31 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and water companies | Mar 31 11:47 |
| matey | "vitamin water" | Mar 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you think you canm get a non-coke choice | Mar 31 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Pepsi has an orange juice. "Tropicana" | Mar 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you need to look closer at the packaging | Mar 31 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's utterly disgusting too. | Mar 31 11:47 |
| matey | "dasani" | Mar 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | or follow the chain of ownereship | Mar 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I don't use Facebook, I use insta instead" | Mar 31 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Tropicana is like really bitter and low quality, doesn't taste like oranges even. | Mar 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I have Coke... I buy Fanta instead" | Mar 31 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Coke's product is at least orange juice. | Mar 31 11:47 |
| matey | organ juice | Mar 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | *hate | Mar 31 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what the fuck Tropicana is. Have you ever tasted an unripe banana? That's what Tropicana is to orange juice. | Mar 31 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | chemical = tropical | Mar 31 11:48 |
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| schestowitz-TR | imagary verbalised | Mar 31 11:48 |
| matey | I don't know what the fuck Tropicana is <- a way for battery companies to unload some of their pollution back into the consumer supply chain | Mar 31 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | *imagery and imagination | Mar 31 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | Biting into an unripe banana is like "OMG, this tastes like green! Like, if green was a flavor, this is what green would taste like!". | Mar 31 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | "holiday in a plastic bottle | Mar 31 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | your friends will envy!!" | Mar 31 11:49 |
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| matey | "hmm, weve destroyed all our brands and consolidated everything into 6 companies that produce food, not unlike the media" | Mar 31 11:50 |
| matey | "no one wants any of our shit" | Mar 31 11:50 |
| matey | ! | Mar 31 11:50 |
| matey | "i know! lets spin off some companies!" | Mar 31 11:50 |
| matey | "yeah! thatll fix everything!" | Mar 31 11:50 |
| techrights-news | Thankfully, over time more people will realise that 'free' video hosting isn't free and was never free. Vimeo, GulagTube etc. They get something from you, and you get nothing from them, except temporarily | Mar 31 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Their soda business is in trouble. | Mar 31 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | mcdonalds has many drink options | Mar 31 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | all from the sa,m compny | Mar 31 11:51 |
| matey | the soda business is going to turn into the next tobacco company | Mar 31 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | They returned it to profit by getting rid of a lot of their lower volume stuff and jacking up prices. | Mar 31 11:51 |
| matey | it might take 50 years of course | Mar 31 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like fixedf royalty | Mar 31 11:52 |
| matey | maybe in the future there will be the beverage equivalent of vaping | Mar 31 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, McDonalds actually figured out how to "optimize" those sodas too. | Mar 31 11:52 |
| matey | its not like they havent already tried a couple times | Mar 31 11:52 |
| matey | sodastream-- unpopular with liberals because israeli | Mar 31 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Like, accounting for ice melt, and using the precise mixtures of syrup to water, and how carbonated, exactly, the water should be. | Mar 31 11:53 |
| matey | also its all fucking sucralose | Mar 31 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | And the correct type of machines to serve it from. | Mar 31 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | That's why a Diet Coke tastes better at McDonalds than anywhere else. | Mar 31 11:53 |
| matey | and constantly bricking the milkshake machine so that they dont buy those instead! | Mar 31 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | Despite being exactly the same soda syrup they sell to everyone else. | Mar 31 11:53 |
| matey | "you want WATER? here, we have dasani!" | Mar 31 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | You order a Coke at the Chinese restaurant, they don't care about quality control. | Mar 31 11:54 |
| matey | they should just change the name to cocadonalds | Mar 31 11:54 |
| matey | thats what it is | Mar 31 11:54 |
| matey | mccola | Mar 31 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | They skimp on the syrup to keep costs down. | Mar 31 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's all watery and wrong. | Mar 31 11:54 |
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| matey | "ill have cock" | Mar 31 11:54 |
| matey | "okay, one cock" | Mar 31 11:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I was talking to mom about McDonalds getting ready to automate everything. She said they couldn't do worse than the local one. | Mar 31 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Closed half the time because nobody wants to work. | Mar 31 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | They were open the other day and gave her a raw hamburger. | Mar 31 11:57 |
| matey | ugh | Mar 31 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | "Meet your replacement!" | Mar 31 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | Robot arm. | Mar 31 11:58 |
| matey | "here you go, one burger" | Mar 31 11:58 |
| matey | "um, youre not going to like..." | Mar 31 11:58 |
| matey | "eh." | Mar 31 11:58 |
| matey | im happy to say ive never had that happen | Mar 31 11:58 |
| matey | then again i havent ordered a burger in ten years | Mar 31 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | The McDonald's here hasn't ever given me anything other than the way I ordered it. | Mar 31 11:58 |
| matey | they wouldnt dare | Mar 31 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | In my experience, there's two kinds of Mexican immigrants. The ones that are on the straight and narrow and run a tight ship (like the ones that own and run most of the McDonald's stores here) and the ones that are, well, not desirable at all, but the Democrats make sure they're out of the jail before ICE shows up for them. | Mar 31 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | At least, as a group, they're a mixed bag. | Mar 31 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Puts them ahead of some. *cough* | Mar 31 12:00 |
| matey | so mexico SOMETIMES sends us their best (despite what we were told a few years ago) | Mar 31 12:00 |
| matey | /me pretends to wonder who *cough* referred to | Mar 31 12:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I actually just laugh now at how much bullshit NPR and the rest manage to churn out. | Mar 31 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Black people on a grievance tour about everything from medical care to people watching them closely at the store. | Mar 31 12:02 |
| techrights-news | GNU/Linux Skills and Linux Foundation • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163184 | Mar 31 12:03 |
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| DaemonFC | They have a lot to complain about, but they're not happy with it, so they make other stuff up. | Mar 31 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | Like doctors trying to kill them. | Mar 31 12:03 |
| matey | im pretty sure EVERYONE is on a grievance tour about medical care, probably because its a terrible system | Mar 31 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: enough... | Mar 31 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | "IT'S A GODDAMNED CONSPIRACY! AND YOU'RE IN ON IT, AND SO ARE YOU!" -NPR | Mar 31 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the us, blacks and trans people suffer enough already | Mar 31 12:04 |
| matey | npr isnt part of a conspiracy, so thats nice | Mar 31 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | stop picking on them in a tech channel | Mar 31 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | Like Ron White said, he was profiled. | Mar 31 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | The cops were pulling over everyone driving down that particular sidewalk. | Mar 31 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> npr isnt part of a conspiracy, so thats nice | Mar 31 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | NPR is part of a conspiracy. | Mar 31 12:06 |
| matey | that was the joke yes | Mar 31 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | They've been gutted and turned into a meat puppet for the 1% to look like they're "public radio". Now, in 2003, NPR listeners were better informed than cabloid news "consumers". | Mar 31 12:07 |
| matey | something we agree on | Mar 31 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | 33% of Fox News viewers at the time thought there were WMDs in Iraq, and 20% for CNN, and 11% for NPR. | Mar 31 12:07 |
| matey | this is why we cant have nice things | Mar 31 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | So obviously, Bush had to corrupt NPR. So he cut their funding in half and Mr. Bill, Walmart, Exxon, Bezos, Koch Industries, and so on came in to fund it. | Mar 31 12:08 |
| matey | we make them, then a bunch of dicks in suits decide they own everything, so push over | Mar 31 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "patriots" | Mar 31 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the | Mar 31 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "job creators" | Mar 31 12:08 |
| matey | nixon also corrupted npr | Mar 31 12:08 |
| matey | but this doesnt negate bush making it even worse | Mar 31 12:09 |
| matey | and Mr. Bill, Walmart, Exxon, Bezos, Koch Industries, and so on came in to fund it. <- at least this didnt turn npr into a bullshit shell of its former self. they have "standards" | Mar 31 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better if Fox News viewers were seriously uninformed. Instead of admitting that they know nothing, they just regurgitate the bullshit. Like, if anyone remembers anything, it'll be there were WMDs in Iraq because Bill O'Reilly said there were. | Mar 31 12:10 |
| matey | if you have any real news, theres a "tiny desk" for it | Mar 31 12:10 |
| matey | next to the worlds tiniest violin | Mar 31 12:10 |
| matey | It would be better if Fox News viewers were seriously uninformed. <- if only it were possible | Mar 31 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | I actually asked one of them on Amazon Forums years later to show me which WMDs were found in Iraq. | Mar 31 12:10 |
| matey | tubes! | Mar 31 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | And they linked to an article about some expired mustard gas left over from the Iran-Iraq war. | Mar 31 12:11 |
| matey | which rumsfeld sold them | Mar 31 12:11 |
| matey | "you want them back now?" | Mar 31 12:11 |
| matey | "is there a refund?" | Mar 31 12:11 |
| matey | "theyre probably not any good, but if you want to come pick them up..." | Mar 31 12:12 |
| matey | and they probably left them there after invading. Liars! | Mar 31 12:12 |
| matey | "we got the tubes though. we were worried about saddam having an erector set" | Mar 31 12:12 |
| matey | they were right about one thing, saddam had Wealth to be Made into Dollars | Mar 31 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | Well, when they found Saddam in a hole, he had a bunch of US Dollars with him. | Mar 31 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, he had tried to escape and buy his way into some other country that wouldn't extradite, like the Nazis. | Mar 31 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | But he had waited too long and couldn't get out. | Mar 31 12:20 |
| matey | putlin is in ukr because he found out they have wtbmirs | Mar 31 12:20 |
| matey | Obviously, he had tried to escape and buy his way into some other country that wouldn't extradite <- im not sure a lack of extradition treaty really helps when theyre willing to pretend saudi arabia is really your country as a reason to invade and kill you. | Mar 31 12:22 |
| matey | but i suppose it would have made things easier if he had just stayed in the fucking palace | Mar 31 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Blair Vidakovich on GNU as a Movement | Techrights | Mar 31 12:26 | |
| techrights-news | “Blair is a community organizer and software freedom advocate from Perth, Western Australia." http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/gnu-as-a-movement/ | Mar 31 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.eu/mafui504/status/1509473597907103747#m | Mar 31 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | マーフィー (@mafui504): "Did he even watch the movie?" | nitter | Mar 31 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/1509277525339521043 | Mar 31 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Twitter Activity Decreases (Twitter Channels the Remaining Traffic Into Fewer Accounts for ‘Engagement”), Notifications Transition Into ICYMI Mode (SPAM) | Techrights | Mar 31 12:57 | |
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| techrights-news | When I left Twitter a month ago (account still online, but it’ll never be active again) it felt like the platform had become a provocation machine, prioritising emotional reaction (e.g. clickbait) instead of substance one actually subscribed for (“followed”); it has gotten even worse since http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/twitter-is-clickbait/ | Mar 31 13:09 |
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| bnchs | hey guys have you ever heard of this | Mar 31 13:32 |
| bnchs | https://wearexena.com/ | Mar 31 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wearexena.com | We Are Xena | Tech Recruitment for Women in Engineering and Product | Mar 31 13:32 | |
| bnchs | "diversity" trolls who only recruit woman | Mar 31 13:33 |
| bnchs | "we only recruit women" | Mar 31 13:33 |
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| bnchs | "diversity matters" | Mar 31 13:33 |
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| bnchs | a sexist "diversity" troll company that hires only women | Mar 31 13:35 |
| matey | /me wants diversity without the corporate fuckery and the ultra-left communism, its the best kind | Mar 31 13:35 |
| bnchs | https://wearexena.com/a-trans-perspective-what-its-really-like-for-women-in-tech/ | Mar 31 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wearexena.com | A Trans Perspective: What It’s Really Like For Women In Tech - Xena | Mar 31 13:36 | |
| bnchs | "At first I was working on computers as a hobby. It was just a fun thing to do in my spare time. I started getting involved in the free and open-source software community. But then off the back of that I got offered a position at Microsoft. That led to my whole professional career, working with computers." | Mar 31 13:36 |
| bnchs | "a position at Microsoft" | Mar 31 13:36 |
| bnchs | makes sense | Mar 31 13:36 |
| matey | But then off the back of that I got offered a position at Microsoft. <- there was the first mistake | Mar 31 13:36 |
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| matey | /me goes to read the article | Mar 31 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | working for crime | Mar 31 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's ethics for you | Mar 31 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | diversity | Mar 31 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | even women can participate in the crime | Mar 31 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | win! | Mar 31 13:37 |
| matey | lets be fair, its not all crime | Mar 31 13:37 |
| matey | theres quite a lot of theft, too | Mar 31 13:37 |
| bnchs | i hate these "diversity" troll companies | Mar 31 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a veiled purpose to it | Mar 31 13:37 |
| bnchs | claiming to be "diverse" by excluding certain races and genders | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it provokes people | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | for stroing reaction | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then helps remove opinionated people | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | leaving only docile obedient people who don't ask questions | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: I just did a video about west africa | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and EPO | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it covers Microsoft | Mar 31 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and corruption | Mar 31 13:38 |
| matey | other than being a softie promoting microsoft i cant find anything wrong with it | Mar 31 13:40 |
| schestowitz | the example above is extra toxic | Mar 31 13:40 |
| schestowitz | as it involves one of the most hated group everywhere | Mar 31 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/10/20/understanding-autism/ | Mar 31 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Understanding Autism for More Complete Inclusion | Techrights | Mar 31 13:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/12/12/exploiting-autistic-people/ | Mar 31 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Management Now Exploits Autistic People as “White-washing Communication Exercise for an Organization Which Has Breached Fundamental Rights” | Techrights | Mar 31 13:40 | |
| schestowitz | those are old tactics | Mar 31 13:40 |
| schestowitz | also, as a side perk: | Mar 31 13:40 |
| schestowitz | they help lower salaries | Mar 31 13:40 |
| matey | theres a difference at least | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | whereas if we had a truly free market, salaries would inreas | Mar 31 13:41 |
| matey | in that the trans advocate seems mostly happy with microsoft | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | in line with skills and demand for skills | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | matey: it's a marketing site | Mar 31 13:41 |
| matey | of course it is | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | it does not tell the full story | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | wait | Mar 31 13:41 |
| matey | microsoft is a horrible company | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | you want me to give you examples of transd peoppple who spilled the beans? | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | or gay people?> | Mar 31 13:41 |
| matey | im only commenting on the article-- i dont doubt for a moment the context is dubious | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | \many women sue Microsoft | Mar 31 13:41 |
| schestowitz | so thuis is smoke and mirrors | Mar 31 13:42 |
| matey | i dont doubt it for a second | Mar 31 13:42 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/10/11/microsoft-sexism-lawsuits/ | Mar 31 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t Look at Linux For Sexism, Look at Microsoft (Although Microsoft Hides the Newest Lawsuits) | Techrights | Mar 31 13:42 | |
| bnchs | wow | Mar 31 13:42 |
| matey | /me thinks roy forgets how much of techrights he has seen... | Mar 31 13:42 |
| bnchs | so basically this website is just smokescreen for microsoft? | Mar 31 13:42 |
| matey | well the fact that it paints microsoft in a good light sort of clinches it | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | probably other companies | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | they find that cheaper | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | than settling lawsuit | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | pay some PR firms | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | stuff the search engine | Mar 31 13:43 |
| matey | i believe wha ti said was: 12:40 <matey> other than being a softie promoting microsoft i cant find anything wrong with it | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft <3 women | Mar 31 13:43 |
| bnchs | "You mentioned you were on the Diversity Board at Microsoft." | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft <3 trans | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft <3 Linux | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft <3 ethics | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | there are even articles saying Microsoft was voted MOST ETHICAL company | Mar 31 13:43 |
| matey | microsoft <3 everything | Mar 31 13:43 |
| bnchs | uhhh she's on the diversity board at microsoft? | Mar 31 13:43 |
| matey | so everything MUST love microsoft | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | just to throw people off the scent | Mar 31 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves bombs | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves Russia | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves Putin | Mar 31 13:44 |
| matey | there are even articles saying Microsoft was voted MOST ETHICAL company <- among companies with a controlling share in github, yes | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft loves diversity | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | just likme Putin does | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | ask pussy riot | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | anyway, the web is full of fake fake fake | Mar 31 13:44 |
| bnchs | the article talks a ton about microsoft | Mar 31 13:44 |
| schestowitz | hence I try to switch it off where possible | Mar 31 13:44 |
| matey | fortunately. as the WORLDS most ethical company, we can soon count on microsoft to impose their coc on all of us | Mar 31 13:44 |
| bnchs | lots of microsoft supported me | Mar 31 13:45 |
| bnchs | microsoft paid my costs | Mar 31 13:45 |
| bnchs | microsoft is good | Mar 31 13:45 |
| matey | <schestowitz> anyway, the web is full of fake fake fake <- tell me about it | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | bribes too | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | microsoft bribes 'journalists' | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | and then they give back | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | it's a criminal company | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | anything else would bne spurious | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | or PR | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | or peolple repeating PR | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | like Putin/RT | Mar 31 13:45 |
| schestowitz | #GatesPartner | Mar 31 13:46 |
| schestowitz | #GatesPartnerUnder18 | Mar 31 13:46 |
| matey | its important to note that certain groups of people do not have any shills among them | Mar 31 13:46 |
| schestowitz | #GatesRichPeople | Mar 31 13:46 |
| *luk1337_ (~luk1337@2a02:6ea0:dc05::a15d) has joined #techrights | Mar 31 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | "EPO in Africa: Microsoft, Corruption, and Colonialism" | Mar 31 13:46 |
| matey | it cant be blacks because malcolm x talked about how awful black shills were | Mar 31 13:46 |
| schestowitz | My nest headline | Mar 31 13:46 |
| matey | it cant be gays, because josh simmons is a shill | Mar 31 13:47 |
| matey | its certainly cant be white men, because-- fuck, a LOT of white men are terrible fucking shills (including simmons) | Mar 31 13:47 |
| bnchs | its the opposite now | Mar 31 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | simmons is neither | Mar 31 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | simmons is a tool | Mar 31 13:47 |
| matey | you can say that again | Mar 31 13:48 |
| bnchs | jobs rejecting white men without saying its because of their race or gener | Mar 31 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | men don't behave like kids | Mar 31 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | or speak like them | Mar 31 13:48 |
| bnchs | all in the name of diversity | Mar 31 13:48 |
| bnchs | because fuck white men | Mar 31 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe in 10 years companies will hire 6 year olds | Mar 31 13:48 |
| matey | still, the diversity craze is losing steam | Mar 31 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | for "diversity" | Mar 31 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | anythign else is ageism | Mar 31 13:48 |
| bnchs | they will reject 18 year olds | Mar 31 13:48 |
| bnchs | or older | Mar 31 13:48 |
| matey | maybe because the corporations thought the best response to blm was feign completely agreement and let it run out of steam on its own | Mar 31 13:48 |
| bnchs | because diversity | Mar 31 13:48 |
| schestowitz | BillBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-32771247 | Mar 31 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | The six-year-old computer whizz who passed Microsoft exam - BBC News | Mar 31 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/pakistan-news/four-year-old-pakistan-girl-areesh-fatima-becomes-youngest-microsoft-professional.html | Mar 31 13:49 |
| schestowitz | me: | Mar 31 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.republicworld.com | Four-year-old Pakistan girl Areesh Fatima becomes youngest Microsoft professional | Mar 31 13:49 | |
| matey | the corporations felt they were the hostage, and they shot the hostage (themselves) | Mar 31 13:49 |
| schestowitz | OK, so even a little kid can pass it | Mar 31 13:49 |
| schestowitz | now I feel a lot better about my cert! | Mar 31 13:49 |
| matey | but diversity was a GREAT BIT for industry | Mar 31 13:49 |
| matey | fuck these hippies, they arent diverse like us! | Mar 31 13:49 |
| matey | you need a suit and tie to care about humanity | Mar 31 13:49 |
| bnchs | hot news | Mar 31 13:49 |
| matey | so that was fun while it lasted | Mar 31 13:49 |
| bnchs | a baby manages to pass microsoft exam | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | "we move on" | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | forward, to ETHICS! | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | but that's not how BillBC puts it | Mar 31 13:50 |
| bnchs | so now he designs pages for government websites | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | not ethical source, no... just ethics! | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | microsof <3 kids | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | #GatesPartner | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | we are introducing ETHICS to free software FOR THE FIRST TIME | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Gates Foundation loves kids | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | in a plane, too | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | hooray, finally free software is ethical | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | thanks brad! | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | and sandler | Mar 31 13:50 |
| matey | oh of course | Mar 31 13:50 |
| schestowitz | tim and tam | Mar 31 13:50 |
| bnchs | hmm i wonder whats brad doing now | Mar 31 13:51 |
| matey | thanks karen "i want to speak to the manager" sandler! | Mar 31 13:51 |
| matey | hmm i wonder whats brad doing now <- writing a book about ethics | Mar 31 13:52 |
| matey | the first one ever | Mar 31 13:52 |
| schestowitz | don choo no microsot loves all the children | Mar 31 13:52 |
| schestowitz | and it loves sfc | Mar 31 13:52 |
| schestowitz | and gpl | Mar 31 13:52 |
| schestowitz | and copyleft | Mar 31 13:52 |
| schestowitz | they sent their lopngtime shill to keynote | Mar 31 13:52 |
| matey | bringing ethics to a heathen world, like jesus in a tie *rewrites the george michael song* | Mar 31 13:52 |
| matey | microsoft <3 copyleft | Mar 31 13:52 |
| bnchs | https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/is-my-node-supply-chain-secure | Mar 31 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - RIAEvangelist/is-my-node-supply-chain-secure: Scans your computer for node modules that are potentially vulnerable to supply chain attacks. You still need to review the code of modules that are not vulnerable, but this helps. | Mar 31 13:52 | |
| bnchs | hypocrite | Mar 31 13:52 |
| schestowitz | 14 years ago: https://techrights.org/2008/03/11/microsoft-invades-foss/comment-page-2/ | Mar 31 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speculation: Who or What is Walli? (Or “How Microsoft Invades FOSS”) | Techrights | Mar 31 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | Brad gave (sold) this man the podium http://techrights.org/2013/06/27/stephen-walli-and-srinivasan/ https://techrights.org/2010/05/19/mole-becomes-cto-of-codeplex/ | Mar 31 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insulting GNU/Linux and Free Software, Courtesy of Microsoft Moles | Techrights | Mar 31 13:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Stephen Walli is Back at Software Patents Aggressor Microsoft After Causing Damage to Software Freedom | Techrights | Mar 31 13:53 | |
| matey | yes and in 2021 theyre still invading *cough* "open source | Mar 31 13:53 |
| schestowitz | in a conference about WHAT HE IS ATTACKING | Mar 31 13:53 |
| matey | "even the open software foundation | Mar 31 13:53 |
| matey | Brad gave (sold) this man the podium <- like jesus in a tie | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | well, thew handlr was deb | Mar 31 13:54 |
| matey | he was just being magnanimous | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | according to sfc | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | she did it two years ina row | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | then moved to osi | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | then coordinated with bully | Mar 31 13:54 |
| matey | well if anyone is more like jesus than brad, its deb | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | then left | Mar 31 13:54 |
| schestowitz | like simmons | Mar 31 13:54 |
| matey | im still having trouble understanding HOW brad is attacking copyleft. because im sure he believes he is helping it. | Mar 31 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's complicated | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | he promotes copyleft | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but other baggage | Mar 31 13:56 |
| matey | and when someone really believes theyre helping- yeah, its complicated | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are parallel example | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | here's a story | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | brace yourself | Mar 31 13:56 |
| matey | oh so hes weighing it down with ballast | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2009-2012 ish I watched tons of atheist videos in gulagtube | Mar 31 13:56 |
| matey | no that seems plausible | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | back then youtube was still not so bad | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | there was also a good community | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and free speech was a thing | Mar 31 13:56 |
| matey | another era | Mar 31 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get banned for "offence" you'd likely need some copyright pretext | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | like using "too much" of someone's clip | Mar 31 13:57 |
| matey | even debian was pretty good back then | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, things started to erode | Mar 31 13:57 |
| matey | mmhmm | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | as some people brought in atheism+ | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | atheism+ was not atheism | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was militant feminism | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | shoehorned using atheist | Mar 31 13:57 |
| matey | the ultra left strikes again | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | which was a hot topic,even back then | Mar 31 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | so basically they're mixing things | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | like anti-war and gay rights | Mar 31 13:58 |
| matey | so this is what brads doing to copyleft | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | are you anti-war? see you all tonight at the gay bar | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the issue FSF has is | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | pepple uses FSF to advance other things | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | Geoff and RMS repeatedly said it's about one thing | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | software. freedom. | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | not russia, or ukraine, or... | Mar 31 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but people who support FSF have belief in other things | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | imo there should be OTHER GROUPS promoting the overlap of freesw with other things | Mar 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | some try to use their ties to FSF to promote other things | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | but then the fsf does something very stupid | Mar 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | like daemonfc interjecting his racist tripe here | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | rms does articles weighing in on topics he knows fuck all about really | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | which is okay | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | its his right | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | but then it becomes part of the fsf website... | Mar 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | his site | Mar 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | not gnu | Mar 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | not fsf | Mar 31 13:59 |
| matey | no no | Mar 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it even says that at the top | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | when its on his website its totally fine! | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | dont get me wrong | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | i mean his stuff about free culture and free hardware for example | Mar 31 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | i put my things about covid only in my site | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | the fsf campaigns against free culture | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | with fud | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | you do too-- every time you spread that nonsense about no-derivs | Mar 31 14:00 |
| bnchs | how? | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | but techrights isnt a 501c3 | Mar 31 14:00 |
| matey | its worse when the fsf does it | Mar 31 14:01 |
| bnchs | whats the fud? | Mar 31 14:01 |
| matey | bnchs: ill get to that | Mar 31 14:01 |
| matey | but anyway | Mar 31 14:01 |
| matey | when this is rms on his personal blog NO PROBLEM | Mar 31 14:01 |
| matey | hes got a right to have a personal opinion | Mar 31 14:01 |
| matey | other people disagree with that-- i dont | Mar 31 14:02 |
| matey | when its an article on the fsf website, and its not about free software... | Mar 31 14:02 |
| bnchs | matey: ok link one | Mar 31 14:02 |
| matey | hes ensuring that those groups will come to the fsf to fight for those causes | Mar 31 14:02 |
| matey | ive probably read it | Mar 31 14:02 |
| matey | theres been a cold war going on between free software and free culture for at least a decade | Mar 31 14:03 |
| matey | probably 2 | Mar 31 14:03 |
| matey | there are many free software people-- even who come here-- who point this out | Mar 31 14:03 |
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| matey | and its because the fsf got involved (imo) | Mar 31 14:03 |
| matey | and then you had people from cc coming to the fsf | Mar 31 14:04 |
| matey | which is okay | Mar 31 14:04 |
| matey | but because of "the war" it was all a disaster | Mar 31 14:04 |
| bnchs | what war? | Mar 31 14:04 |
| matey | note i always blame both sides for this-- but the fsf was part of the problem | Mar 31 14:04 |
| matey | bnchs: the one youll hear about if you pay attention to (other) people coming here to talk about it | Mar 31 14:04 |
| matey | its not a new war, its an old ongoing one | Mar 31 14:04 |
| matey | between the fsf and free culture (fuck cc, they can drop in the ocean) | Mar 31 14:05 |
| matey | cc isnt free culture (it could have been) | Mar 31 14:05 |
| matey | former vp mike linksvayer tried to tranform cc into a free culture outfit-- he failed | Mar 31 14:06 |
| matey | he had some good ideas | Mar 31 14:06 |
| matey | imo they stopped being worth a penny the minute he failed | Mar 31 14:06 |
| matey | fsf made all of this worse | Mar 31 14:07 |
| matey | they propped up the wrong side | Mar 31 14:07 |
| matey | the side that actually hurts their own goals-- it was so stupid | Mar 31 14:07 |
| matey | ensuring the war would go on forever-- or until the fsf was destroyed | Mar 31 14:07 |
| matey | this isnt why the fsf is failing | Mar 31 14:07 |
| matey | its why they dont have more allies | Mar 31 14:07 |
| matey | its also the reason i stopped giving them money | Mar 31 14:08 |
| matey | its not just me, this is the #1 longest running cause the fsf stands against (other than non-free software) | Mar 31 14:08 |
| matey | its probably the reason david revoy signed the fucking letter (linksvayer did too) | Mar 31 14:09 |
| matey | he shouldnt have | Mar 31 14:09 |
| matey | bnchs: rms (regarding free software) has said for years that copyright doesnt "protect a work" | Mar 31 14:12 |
| matey | when he talks about "works of opinion" he does a complete and logical 180 and acts like it does (he was right the first time-- if copyright protected a work, people couldnt have taken his emails out of context-- they werent under a free license) | Mar 31 14:12 |
| matey | so we have this life-changing event to show how right he is about how copyright doesnt "protect" a work | Mar 31 14:13 |
| bnchs | so basically | Mar 31 14:13 |
| matey | and he still plasters bullshit about no-derivs all over the fsf and/or gnu website implying it does | Mar 31 14:13 |
| bnchs | copyright does protect a work | Mar 31 14:13 |
| bnchs | if you have enough resources | Mar 31 14:13 |
| bnchs | otherwise GPL and shit would not work | Mar 31 14:13 |
| matey | well thats another thing | Mar 31 14:14 |
| matey | copyright DOES protect a work when its copyleft, i guess | Mar 31 14:14 |
| matey | but AGAIN-- there are copyleft free culture licenses | Mar 31 14:14 |
| matey | and ONCE AGAIN, the protection ONLY applies (magically, through the forces of handwavy bullshit) to software | Mar 31 14:14 |
| matey | and not works of opinion | Mar 31 14:15 |
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| matey | for software you cant have no-derivs and it wont help! | Mar 31 14:15 |
| matey | for OPINIONS no-derivs gives protection but copyleft wont! | Mar 31 14:15 |
| matey | (but it will, but hes full of shit) | Mar 31 14:15 |
| matey | now heres the important part | Mar 31 14:15 |
| matey | THERES LITERALLY AN ENTIRE MOVEMENT that knows hes full of shit about this. | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | but the fsf has to spread fud agaisnt that movement | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | NOT to protect free software | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | ONLY to "protect" stallmans "works of opinion" | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | its bloody fucking ridiculous | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | but again-- this has cost the fsf loads of support over the years | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | from people who are both free software AND free culture advocates | Mar 31 14:16 |
| matey | who fucking hate the fsf spreading fud against their movement | Mar 31 14:17 |
| matey | its dumb, worthless fud | Mar 31 14:17 |
| matey | and when you pay the fsf, one of the things you pay them to do | Mar 31 14:17 |
| matey | is campaign against this (hardly free-software-related-- but SORT of related) cause | Mar 31 14:17 |
| matey | so i stopped giving them money, hoping someday they would change | Mar 31 14:17 |
| matey | its been a number of years now | Mar 31 14:18 |
| matey | they wont likely change this as long as stallman is there | Mar 31 14:18 |
| matey | this is the fsfs fault really-- but, in fairness | Mar 31 14:18 |
| matey | free software is not faultless here either | Mar 31 14:18 |
| matey | sorry | Mar 31 14:18 |
| matey | free culture is not faultless here either | Mar 31 14:19 |
| matey | both sides have fucked up | Mar 31 14:19 |
| matey | since free culture has never had a REAL organisation for more than 5 minutes-- something i campaigned for years ago | Mar 31 14:19 |
| matey | theres no free culture foundation we can blame | Mar 31 14:19 |
| matey | there was however. students for free culture renamed themselves the free culture foundation at one point | Mar 31 14:20 |
| matey | but rms could have done more from a twitter account than the fcf managed to do for themselves as an org | Mar 31 14:20 |
| matey | and cc isnt a free culture organisation, though a lot of people wished it had become one | Mar 31 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | cc is not softare | Mar 31 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't overmix imho | Mar 31 14:21 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> cc is not softare <- wrong and wrong wrong | Mar 31 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we support free software" | Mar 31 14:21 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> don't overmix imho <- tell the fsf, you werent paying attention. | Mar 31 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone in the crowd: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WOMEN? | Mar 31 14:21 |
| matey | first of all, youre wrong that cc isnt software | Mar 31 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I amm trying something | Mar 31 14:22 |
| matey | cc0 is on the gpl-compatible licenses page on the fsf website | Mar 31 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so did not read all the above just yet | Mar 31 14:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/president-meme.jpg | Mar 31 14:22 |
| matey | cc0 software IS FREE SOFTWARE (per the fsfs own website) | Mar 31 14:22 |
| matey | second, the cc licenses are now gpl-compatible | Mar 31 14:22 |
| matey | i said they werent in an email to rms | Mar 31 14:22 |
| matey | he said no, some of the cc 4.0 license are gpl-compatible and can be used for free software | Mar 31 14:23 |
| matey | whether they SHOULD be is another matter-- the fsf doesnt encourage that | Mar 31 14:23 |
| matey | but at least one of the 4.0 licenses is gpl-compatible | Mar 31 14:23 |
| matey | and thus can be used as a free software license | Mar 31 14:23 |
| matey | so this <schestowitz-TR> cc is not softare <- simply untrue | Mar 31 14:23 |
| matey | there was a cc0 "licensed" game someone made a year ago | Mar 31 14:24 |
| matey | i suggested you mention it, since it was a new free software game | Mar 31 14:24 |
| matey | for whatever reason you chose not to | Mar 31 14:24 |
| matey | i thought you were interested in free software games. the assets were also cc0 | Mar 31 14:24 |
| matey | LITERALLY ANY gpl licensed game could have used any part of that work-- software or game assets | Mar 31 14:25 |
| matey | maybe you thought cc0 wasnt software. but you could have gone to the fsf licenses page and checked | Mar 31 14:25 |
| matey | a public domain dedication is also considered gpl compatible | Mar 31 14:28 |
| matey | the problem with a public domain dedication is it wont have any effect in finland (for example) | Mar 31 14:28 |
| matey | if you want to submit something to the public domain in finland you have to find some way to die first | Mar 31 14:28 |
| matey | but you CAN use a free license, so cc0 is a public domain dedication first, and a fallback license if the dedication doesnt work | Mar 31 14:29 |
| matey | and since the fallback license (successfully) grants everything it possibly can grant to the recipient | Mar 31 14:29 |
| matey | its gpl-compatible even in finland | Mar 31 14:30 |
| matey | this means cc0 is actually more gpl-compatible than a public domain dedication is. | Mar 31 14:30 |
| matey | and thats why it should be used instead of a pdd. | Mar 31 14:30 |
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| matey | what i like about openbsd is that regardless of how they spend their spare time, they wash their hands afterwards | Mar 31 14:39 |
| matey | its lennart and co who demand to leave stiff socks and sticky tissues all over my computer, no matter where i go to get away from them | Mar 31 14:40 |
| matey | linus must be the only monkey in finland who doesnt masturbate, so he has greg come to do it for him, thats so much better | Mar 31 14:40 |
| MinceR | i thought he moved to the USA | Mar 31 14:41 |
| matey | yes, like so many uppity europeans who spend a lifetime looking down their noses at americans only to become one | Mar 31 14:42 |
| matey | but i still think of him as a finn (if he claims finnish-american i have no quarrel with that) | Mar 31 14:42 |
| matey | so s/monkey in/monkey from/ just to be completely correct | Mar 31 14:42 |
| matey | i still think of him as a finn because ive always thought of him as one, and the times ive heard about him being in the states i can count on one... well i better not, or he might comment on how i spend my spare time as well | Mar 31 14:43 |
| matey | but at least i can count the instances with one hand free. | Mar 31 14:44 |
| matey | the short but less amusing version is hes a fucking hypocrite, but that shouldnt be news to anyone by now | Mar 31 14:45 |
| matey | for a long time he managed to keep a lot of bullshit from getting into the kernel | Mar 31 14:46 |
| matey | meanwhile, the "masturbating monkeys" CONTINUE to keep a lot of bullshit from getting into the kernel | Mar 31 14:46 |
| matey | maybe its like they say, and a reasonable amount of masturbation is truly harmless. | Mar 31 14:46 |
| matey | but i dont know how people are raised in finland. maybe his hands were too cold, i couldnt tell you. | Mar 31 14:47 |
| matey | "shit! cold hands!" | Mar 31 14:47 |
| matey | "i think ill just type something instead" | Mar 31 14:47 |
| matey | linux: cures masturbation... at least for the first couple decades | Mar 31 14:48 |
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| XRevan86 | "Agency" renamed itself back to Proekt | Mar 31 14:51 |
| matey | what is it | Mar 31 14:52 |
| XRevan86 | A Russian investigative and news resource | Mar 31 14:52 |
| matey | still? | Mar 31 14:52 |
| XRevan86 | https://proekt.media/en/home/ | Mar 31 14:53 |
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| matey | but i mean, even now? | Mar 31 14:53 |
| matey | the story goes theyre all mouthpieces now | Mar 31 14:53 |
| matey | but maybe thats an overgeneralisation | Mar 31 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | Independent media exists, it just functions from abroad. | Mar 31 14:53 |
| matey | that was my other guess | Mar 31 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | Like Media, The Insider, Mediazona, et al. | Mar 31 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | [14:52] <XRevan86> A Russian investigative and news resource | Mar 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Europe needs one | Mar 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it doesn't have it | Mar 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | European policians have become 'masturbating monkeys' | Mar 31 14:54 |
| matey | ugh | Mar 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | celebrating low corruption | Mar 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then citing themselves as proof | Mar 31 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder if they can restore all the publications they purged when they closed Proekt the first time. | Mar 31 14:54 |
| matey | siding with linus is only one step removed from siding with jim at this point | Mar 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | jim is a liar | Mar 31 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | even before he knew what Linux is | Mar 31 14:55 |
| matey | linus is full of shit | Mar 31 14:55 |
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| schestowitz-TR | he did lying for a living | Mar 31 14:55 |
| matey | there are nuanced differences | Mar 31 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he still does | Mar 31 14:55 |
| matey | jim is worse | Mar 31 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | so not much adaptation was needed | Mar 31 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | Seems like they have. | Mar 31 14:55 |
| matey | he did lying for a living <- and linus only spread bullshit as a charity | Mar 31 14:55 |
| matey | he does a lot of work for it but doesnt like to talk about it | Mar 31 14:55 |
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| matey | linus was an anti-free software shill for most of his career | Mar 31 14:56 |
| matey | now hes done | Mar 31 14:56 |
| matey | basically | Mar 31 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | Compliance became impossible, so they just stop compromising. | Mar 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: now he's the mascot | Mar 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cameo | Mar 31 14:57 |
| matey | granted the ways he shilled were LARGELY compatible with free softwares image | Mar 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "stay here and smile" | Mar 31 14:57 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> matey: now he's the mascot | Mar 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "your face has market value" | Mar 31 14:57 |
| matey | good thing theres already a penguin | Mar 31 14:57 |
| matey | or they might dress him up as a monkey | Mar 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "just do what we tell you... about rust... and tRust Microsoft" | Mar 31 14:57 |
| matey | i imagine penguins have a more difficult time with those flippers | Mar 31 14:58 |
| matey | but i dont really know | Mar 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | linus loves diving | Mar 31 14:58 |
| matey | me pictures alan partridge when he breaks his hand, looking at the splint | Mar 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | penguins are good at it | Mar 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's how they catch fish | Mar 31 14:58 |
| matey | yes, flippers are certainly good for something | Mar 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | spanking | Mar 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/ | Mar 31 14:59 |
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| matey | jim really is a dick | Mar 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | microsoft loves [spanking] linux/linus | Mar 31 14:59 |
| matey | when i look at jim zemlin i always think its ed begley jr | Mar 31 15:05 |
| matey | of course ed begley looks a lot older now | Mar 31 15:05 |
| matey | so give jim another 10-20 years | Mar 31 15:05 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg | Mar 31 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mark Wahlberg - Wikipedia | Mar 31 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | zemlin | Mar 31 15:06 |
| schestowitz | except without tact | Mar 31 15:06 |
| schestowitz | zemlin at TED: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4 | Mar 31 15:06 |
| schestowitz | fake zemlin at red 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_2 | Mar 31 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ted 2 - Wikipedia | Mar 31 15:06 | |
| matey | i suppose their facial shapes have some commonalities | Mar 31 15:06 |
| schestowitz | not just that | Mar 31 15:07 |
| schestowitz | they are both actors | Mar 31 15:07 |
| matey | of course | Mar 31 15:07 |
| matey | /me wonders what the stuffed gnu would say if it could talk | Mar 31 15:07 |
| matey | surely it would have a boston accent like ted | Mar 31 15:07 |
| matey | and wahlberg | Mar 31 15:07 |
| schestowitz | all jim needs not is a self-described "filmmaker" like spamnil | Mar 31 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | 8 days, 9 video views | Mar 31 15:08 |
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| matey | all jim needs not is a self-described "filmmaker" i know the perfect man for the job | Mar 31 15:09 |
| matey | kanye west | Mar 31 15:09 |
| matey | this is just the sort of thing kanye can get behind | Mar 31 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw some of these views are spamnil and the guests checking the upload | Mar 31 15:10 |
| matey | plus im sure he can hold a camera | Mar 31 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is how they killed linux.com | Mar 31 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did an elop on it | Mar 31 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | put incompetent person in charge | Mar 31 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | post some pro-Microsoft trash | Mar 31 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there, your audience is gone very quickly | Mar 31 15:10 |
| matey | kanye does fashion now | Mar 31 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | ha | Mar 31 15:11 |
| matey | lf does events | Mar 31 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | to be fair, I like/d some of his music | Mar 31 15:11 |
| matey | there can be linux shoes, $500 a pair | Mar 31 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does have some talent | Mar 31 15:11 |
| matey | to be fair, I like/d some of his music <- i dont hate him or anything | Mar 31 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | GNU would tkae cornell west | Mar 31 15:11 |
| matey | but you CAN make fun of something by putting kanye in charge of it | Mar 31 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's more fitting for freesw | Mar 31 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and says outrageous things, like rms | Mar 31 15:12 |
| matey | so was eben moglen :/ | Mar 31 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | kwest is like linus | Mar 31 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | talks trash | Mar 31 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | cwest is a genius | Mar 31 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence the system rejects him | Mar 31 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | even his own UNI!! | Mar 31 15:12 |
| matey | that does sound vaguely familiar | Mar 31 15:13 |
| matey | oh yes | Mar 31 15:13 |
| matey | i hope that stunt costs mit some future professors | Mar 31 15:14 |
| matey | it would serve them fucking right | Mar 31 15:14 |
| matey | first they killed aaron | Mar 31 15:14 |
| matey | then they wrongfully fired rms | Mar 31 15:14 |
| matey | they used to be cool | Mar 31 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are cool | Mar 31 15:14 |
| matey | bah | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | with spstein/gates | Mar 31 15:15 |
| matey | oh right | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they covered for them | Mar 31 15:15 |
| matey | they really picked a winner there | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | to pretect the ral culprits | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they even asked gates lawsyers | Mar 31 15:15 |
| matey | maybe gates will get an honourary degree from them | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's what they mean by investigation | Mar 31 15:15 |
| matey | did harvard ever give him one? | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did the samer to swartz | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | more of a blame-shiftinf cover-up report | Mar 31 15:15 |
| matey | they went just a bit harder after aaron than gates though | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ | Mar 31 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights | Mar 31 15:15 | |
| matey | maybe if aaron had been a millionaire | Mar 31 15:15 |
| schestowitz | released around xmas when nobody pays much attention | Mar 31 15:16 |
| schestowitz | just like reports about the arrests at bill's home | Mar 31 15:16 |
| matey | merry sellout christmas | Mar 31 15:16 |
| matey | i hope the domes cave in. | Mar 31 15:16 |
| matey | i was a huge fan of mit when i was a kid | Mar 31 15:16 |
| matey | even visited | Mar 31 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | pentagon (darpa) will bail them out again | Mar 31 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | drone "research" and stuff | Mar 31 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | boston synamics | Mar 31 15:16 |
| matey | indeed | Mar 31 15:16 |
| MinceR | "The more often Pinocchio lies, the longer his table becomes." >> https://ircz.de/p/22032315 | Mar 31 15:17 |
| matey | though thats in a different town | Mar 31 15:17 |
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| schestowitz-TR | then they can do some mit movies | Mar 31 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | about epic scientists there | Mar 31 15:17 |
| matey | rofl@table | Mar 31 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | with campus scenes | Mar 31 15:17 |
| matey | i already met the most epic scientist at mit | Mar 31 15:17 |
| matey | he died years ago, very old | Mar 31 15:18 |
| matey | though rms is probably cooler in a number of ways | Mar 31 15:18 |
| schestowitz | matey: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png | Mar 31 15:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png | Mar 31 15:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 31 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's with the other url? | Mar 31 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one with putin and candy on his head? | Mar 31 15:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 31 15:20 |
| matey | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png <- hmm, doesnt show the gnu developers fighting over scraps that pudding throws off | Mar 31 15:20 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: which one? | Mar 31 15:21 |
| matey | the url to the png | Mar 31 15:21 |
| matey | its funny how centauri putlins furnishings look. daemonfc would know http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png | Mar 31 15:22 |
| matey | "great maker!" | Mar 31 15:22 |
| MinceR | Shai-Hulud? | Mar 31 15:23 |
| matey | i was thinking londo mollari | Mar 31 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://ircz.de/p/22033055 | Mar 31 15:23 |
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| matey | but he was derivative in a number of ways | Mar 31 15:23 |
| matey | i mean the coats looked like something from napoleons garage sale | Mar 31 15:24 |
| matey | and the hair-- looked like one of napoleons hats | Mar 31 15:24 |
| matey | pudding obviously wants to be stalin | Mar 31 15:25 |
| matey | but i but you hes a pretty big fan of napoleon too | Mar 31 15:25 |
| matey | bet you | Mar 31 15:25 |
| matey | also putlin looks most like the actor who was in first contact and love actually | Mar 31 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://ircz.de/m/pics/2022/03/28/18/49/09/44029c2e163d63bf8341789edd842a92230b7569.png | Mar 31 15:28 |
| matey | but youd have to put a LOT of makeup on him | Mar 31 15:28 |
| matey | smooth the hell out of his face | Mar 31 15:29 |
| MinceR | emacs, the operating system | Mar 31 15:29 |
| matey | emacs was a better os than systemd and i never used it either | Mar 31 15:29 |
| MinceR | + | Mar 31 15:29 |
| matey | the difference was that emacs was optional and less of a bother to learn | Mar 31 15:29 |
| MinceR | well, i used it for spook and SLIME | Mar 31 15:30 |
| psydruid | one of my professors came from MIT | Mar 31 15:30 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/ | Mar 31 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal Page | Mar 31 15:30 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Mar 31 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Upcoming talks | Mar 31 15:30 |
| schestowitz | No upcoming talk. | Mar 31 15:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 31 15:30 |
| matey | theyre probably good at what they do | Mar 31 15:30 |
| matey | its the school that fucking sucks | Mar 31 15:31 |
| psydruid | even though it's usually the other way around | Mar 31 15:31 |
| psydruid | yeah | Mar 31 15:31 |
| psydruid | http://homepage.tudelft.nl/t5g29/CV.html | Mar 31 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-homepage.tudelft.nl | Curriculum Vitae - Professor Ian T. Young | Mar 31 15:31 | |
| psydruid | I guess he left and never went back except as a guest lecturer | Mar 31 15:32 |
| matey | place of birth Chicago, Illinois | Mar 31 15:32 |
| matey | /me hides it from dfc | Mar 31 15:32 |
| matey | lets see your professor survive the crazy streets of chicago! | Mar 31 15:33 |
| matey | "are you kidding, i was born there" | Mar 31 15:33 |
| psydruid | Chicago was probably a different place back then | Mar 31 15:33 |
| matey | hes been everywhere | Mar 31 15:33 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/ | Mar 31 15:33 |
| schestowitz | ""They" is plural — for singular antecedents, use singular gender-neutral pronouns." | Mar 31 15:33 |
| matey | Chicago was probably a different place back then <- yes and no. in some ways its never changed | Mar 31 15:34 |
| matey | im confident it at least looked nicer | Mar 31 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I was younger we said "he or she" | Mar 31 15:35 |
| matey | "They" is plural for singular antecedents, use singular gender-neutral pronouns." <- pretending that he speaks a version of english that hannt changed in more significant ways than this | Mar 31 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | three vowels | Mar 31 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | not too hard | Mar 31 15:35 |
| matey | he or she excludes non binary | Mar 31 15:35 |
| matey | and they is simpler | Mar 31 15:35 |
| matey | i use to say he or she, but it sounds stilted next to "they" | Mar 31 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway.. | Mar 31 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | . | Mar 31 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | his site does not mention the talk | Mar 31 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I checked last week also | Mar 31 15:35 |
| matey | stallman is taking up a very american pastime | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | pasttime? | Mar 31 15:36 |
| matey | preserving a version of english that isnt british as though its not itself something that made changes | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I also agree with RMS | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they means plutral | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people create confusion | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | even at work | Mar 31 15:36 |
| matey | you can agree all you like-- singular they has been in use for AGES | Mar 31 15:36 |
| matey | not just your lifetime | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot distinguish how many people are invoilved | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | numerated words do have a purpose | Mar 31 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for gendered words | Mar 31 15:37 |
| matey | so what youre agreeing on is pretending that the word is more limited than it really is | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know what number to expect and can distinguish groups | Mar 31 15:37 |
| matey | numerated words do have a purpose <- singular they also has a purpose | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a word for many females | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | a word for many males | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fore singles | Mar 31 15:37 |
| matey | hes correct that singular they is less ambiguous | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | even inside verbs | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and inside adjectives | Mar 31 15:37 |
| matey | but its a strong protest of a very small non-problem | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | regarding his | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | talk | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I shall watch | Mar 31 15:37 |
| matey | where they is ambiguous you can just use the persons name again | Mar 31 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the fsf mentioned it in the calendar | Mar 31 15:38 |
| matey | like lrowe, when they is ambiguous you can just use their name again <- no ambiguous they in this sentence | Mar 31 15:38 |
| matey | stallmans entire protest is that a word is ambiguous, when many of the uses hes protesting are not! | Mar 31 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | names are more unique, yes | Mar 31 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: the ones he protests are worse | Mar 31 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are misleading propaganda term | Mar 31 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | deceit being their intent | Mar 31 15:39 |
| matey | no... | Mar 31 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "intangiable sssets" | Mar 31 15:39 |
| matey | no, i dont think so | Mar 31 15:39 |
| matey | he was literally complaining its gramaticalyl ambiguous | Mar 31 15:39 |
| matey | its entirely about grammar | Mar 31 15:39 |
| matey | not political context | Mar 31 15:39 |
| matey | and the grammatical ambiguity is easy to solve | Mar 31 15:40 |
| matey | not all uses are gramatically ambiguous-- when a use is, use the name instead | Mar 31 15:40 |
| matey | really simple. no need for per pers etc | Mar 31 15:40 |
| matey | when its not ambiguous singular they can be used (just like kal in hindi) | Mar 31 15:41 |
| matey | in hindi you know whether kal is yesterday or tomorrow from context | Mar 31 15:41 |
| matey | from tense | Mar 31 15:41 |
| matey | so the word is ambiguous but the usage isnt | Mar 31 15:41 |
| matey | similarly, you can use singular they and have the context COMPLETELY clear its singular | Mar 31 15:41 |
| matey | no ambiguity | Mar 31 15:42 |
| matey | stallman is in error about this | Mar 31 15:42 |
| matey | hes solving a problem that neednt exist in the first place | Mar 31 15:42 |
| matey | and singular they isnt that bad | Mar 31 15:42 |
| matey | plus hes willing to use it if people ask him to | Mar 31 15:42 |
| matey | so hes not even against it | Mar 31 15:43 |
| matey | "per" se | Mar 31 15:43 |
| matey | and the funniest part is! | Mar 31 15:43 |
| matey | open source makes the same argument about free being ambiguous | Mar 31 15:43 |
| matey | and its just as crappy an argument then. | Mar 31 15:43 |
| matey | 99% of the time if someone is talking about an apple computer it isnt a fruit | Mar 31 15:45 |
| matey | its a computer. we could say apple is ambiguous | Mar 31 15:45 |
| matey | puppy linux-- omg is it a dog or a distro? its so confusing! | Mar 31 15:46 |
| matey | techrights. what do you mean, rights like user rights or rights like take a right at the next light? i dont know | Mar 31 15:46 |
| matey | completely a non-problem. | Mar 31 15:46 |
| matey | ambiguity comes from poorly formed sentences, blaming the individual word is a waste of time | Mar 31 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | doing an rms meme | Mar 31 15:48 |
| matey | what do you mean, an african swallow or swallow like you do when you eat or drink something? | Mar 31 15:49 |
| matey | "what? i dont know that! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!" | Mar 31 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/rms-drilling.jpg | Mar 31 15:50 |
| matey | that was a quick one | Mar 31 15:50 |
| matey | i like it, but im unaware of the nazi google connection | Mar 31 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | github | Mar 31 15:52 |
| matey | /me looks again | Mar 31 15:52 |
| matey | whats the nazi github connection? | Mar 31 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | ties into ICBM too | Mar 31 15:52 |
| matey | other than i think github was one of hitlers men | Mar 31 15:52 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/ | Mar 31 15:53 |
| matey | "everyone except github, steiner, and krebs leave the room" | Mar 31 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights | Mar 31 15:53 | |
| matey | "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH MICROSOFT! IM JUST TRYING TO DOWNLOAD PUPPY LINUX!" | Mar 31 15:53 |
| matey | /me throws pencil at the desk | Mar 31 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | shouts something about stalin | Mar 31 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | schtalleeeen | Mar 31 15:54 |
| matey | hes not really like stalin unless he would make a pact with hitler | Mar 31 15:54 |
| matey | and churchhill | Mar 31 15:54 |
| matey | hitler thought churchhill would destroy stalin and churchhill thought the nazis would beat them | Mar 31 15:55 |
| schestowitz | any typos in http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/rage-against-the-system/ ? | Mar 31 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Rage Against the Machine (Military-Industrial Complex) | Techrights | Mar 31 15:55 | |
| matey | no idea | Mar 31 15:55 |
| matey | but | Mar 31 15:56 |
| matey | still looking at the graphic | Mar 31 15:56 |
| matey | granted its in very small letters but its RIGHT THERE | Mar 31 15:56 |
| matey | is the github nazi connection | Mar 31 15:57 |
| matey | so it actually explains it. i missed it the first time | Mar 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems like fsf tries to take back the term social justice | Mar 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the context of sw freedom | Mar 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw that in the intros | Mar 31 15:57 |
| matey | thats a bad strategy | Mar 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it says freesw is about social justice | Mar 31 15:57 |
| matey | but they have so many, one more wont matter | Mar 31 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it's like taking the word "gay" | Mar 31 15:58 |
| matey | yes, except not everyone is trying to claim theyre gay | Mar 31 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | not saying it's a good idea | Mar 31 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | check the audio versions of talks | Mar 31 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the intros | Mar 31 15:58 |
| matey | theyre all about social justice now? | Mar 31 15:59 |
| matey | the sjws missed an opportunity | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you see? | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it's overused | Mar 31 16:00 |
| matey | to call themselves the social justice league and have even more of a marvel tie-in | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they lose control of it | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then cannot weaponise it | Mar 31 16:00 |
| matey | they should have done it sooner then | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | monty python | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | i''m juses | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so is my wife | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | *jesus | Mar 31 16:01 |
| matey | oh yes the sparticus gambit | Mar 31 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | that can be a strategy also | Mar 31 16:01 |
| matey | or the sparticus defence | Mar 31 16:01 |
| matey | mmhmm | Mar 31 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you frame it to show the hypocrisy | Mar 31 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | andf the doubel standards | Mar 31 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | like people who work foir evil companies | Mar 31 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | who themselves (both the people and the companies) pretend to be some sort of charity | Mar 31 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | while they drop bomb | Mar 31 16:02 |
| matey | so the social justice people are doing the same thing | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or help drop bombs | Mar 31 16:02 |
| matey | its like when youre on facebook, but now your parents are, so its not cool anymore | Mar 31 16:02 |
| matey | so you leave | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | good analogy | Mar 31 16:02 |
| matey | the sjws are all about "ethics" now | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it started ages ago | Mar 31 16:02 |
| matey | but the artifacts and damage done by the sjws are stll here | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | summarised in two words | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | by an actor | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | "respect microsoft" | Mar 31 16:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's SJW version 0.1 | Mar 31 16:03 |
| matey | jononononononononononononononononono | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | you start with the premise | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | crime is good | Mar 31 16:03 |
| matey | jononononononono cat ^ | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we need to reinforce the belief calling out the criminal is evil | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | openrespect -> respect microsoft | Mar 31 16:03 |
| matey | calling out criminals is like kicking a puppy | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | canonical partners with microsoft | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: those are moral equivalents | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | one day you kick a puppy | Mar 31 16:03 |
| matey | its like the same thing! | Mar 31 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | next day you say,"fuck microsoft for hiring nazis" | Mar 31 16:04 |
| matey | microsoft and nazis are like puppies | Mar 31 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ | Mar 31 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Canonical? | Techrights | Mar 31 16:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ | Mar 31 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights | Mar 31 16:04 | |
| schestowitz | openrespect | Mar 31 16:04 |
| schestowitz | RESPECT microsoft | Mar 31 16:04 |
| schestowitz | they are OUR FRIENDS now | Mar 31 16:04 |
| matey | friiiiiiiends | Mar 31 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/ | Mar 31 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights | Mar 31 16:04 | |
| schestowitz | matey: like in manian mansion | Mar 31 16:05 |
| schestowitz | day of the tentacle | Mar 31 16:05 |
| matey | of course if you dont want to be friends with microsoft | Mar 31 16:05 |
| matey | you have options | Mar 31 16:05 |
| matey | if you dont want to be friends with microsoft | Mar 31 16:05 |
| matey | you dont have to go to libreplanet | Mar 31 16:05 |
| schestowitz | *maniac | Mar 31 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow, it's thurs already | Mar 31 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | felt like weds | Mar 31 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | or tue | Mar 31 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe cause I did a tons of work ont he setup/office and libreplanet videos | Mar 31 16:06 |
| matey | short week | Mar 31 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Mar 31 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | one hour short | Mar 31 16:07 |
| matey | americans lost an hour a couple weeks ago and hae probably just adjusted by now | Mar 31 16:07 |
| matey | but they can reedem it in november or something | Mar 31 16:07 |
| matey | unless they pass a law to let the government keep it | Mar 31 16:08 |
| matey | a bit like the stone angels in doctor who | Mar 31 16:08 |
| matey | granted its only an hour, but its an hour for 300-400 million people so | Mar 31 16:09 |
| matey | definitely a nice buffet for stone angels | Mar 31 16:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dr. William Liggett on Baby Steps to (Software) Freedom | Techrights | Mar 31 16:13 | |
| techrights-news | A guide to Linux for embedded applications • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163190 | Mar 31 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide to Linux for embedded applications | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | Debian vs. Ubuntu Linux: Which Distro Should You Choose? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163191 | Mar 31 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian vs. Ubuntu Linux: Which Distro Should You Choose? | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | Top 10 opensource bug and issue tracking tools for Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163192 | Mar 31 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 opensource bug and issue tracking tools for Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | High performance open infrastructure comes to Ubuntu • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163193 | Mar 31 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | High performance open infrastructure comes to Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:14 | |
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| techrights-news | Debian 11.3 Released wIth Numerous Bug and Security Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163029#comment-33244 | Mar 31 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 “Bullseye” Released with 83 Security Updates and 92 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:21 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163194 | Mar 31 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:21 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163195 | Mar 31 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:22 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu 22.04’s Snap-Only Software Store is a Bug, Not a Feature http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163182#comment-33243 | Mar 31 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu: Telcos, Containers, Charmed Operator SDK, and Bug Reporting | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:22 | |
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| techrights-news | "The Documentation team is happy to announce the immediate availability of the Writer Guide 7.3." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/30/writer-guide-7-3/ | Mar 31 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Writer Guide 7.3 - The Document Foundation Blog | Mar 31 16:48 | |
| psydruid | Microsoft organises labour camps for puppies | Mar 31 16:48 |
| psydruid | those are called internships | Mar 31 16:48 |
| techrights-news | "As a simple reference I used my year-old post about Clang 11 building faster with PCH, where Calc'c Library_sc built in 4 minutes and 39 seconds." http://llunak.blogspot.com/2022/03/clang-14-faster-at-building-libreoffice.html | Mar 31 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-llunak.blogspot.com | llunak: Clang 14 faster at building LibreOffice | Mar 31 16:49 | |
| MinceR | dogs work for microsoft? that explains some of their evilness | Mar 31 16:49 |
| psydruid | oh, internments | Mar 31 16:50 |
| techrights-news | Recent Contributions from Collabora to LibreOffice - Collabora Office and Collabora https://www.collaboraoffice.com/community/recent-contributions-from-collabora-to-libreoffice/ "Here are a few highlights of the last week’s work on behalf of our customers." | Mar 31 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collaboraoffice.com | Recent Contributions from Collabora to LibreOffice - Collabora Office and Collabora Online | Mar 31 16:51 | |
| MinceR | https://insighthungary.444.hu/2022/03/31/opposition-votes-die-by-fire-v4-in-recess-russian-hackers-in-the-mfa-polls-favor-orban | Mar 31 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insighthungary.444.hu | Opposition votes die by fire, V4 in recess, Russian hackers in the MFA, polls favor Orbán - InsightHungary | Mar 31 16:55 | |
| MinceR | fideath are cheating already | Mar 31 16:55 |
| techrights-news | LibreOffice: Documentation, Compiling With Clang, and Collabora’s Work • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163196 | Mar 31 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice: Documentation, Compiling With Clang, and Collabora's Work | Tux Machines | Mar 31 16:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR | aka slaves | Mar 31 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: put in box | Mar 31 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ballot always comes out the same | Mar 31 16:57 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2203239 | Mar 31 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/tya7yqjblwo81.jpg created on 2022-03-23 02:52:29.820279 | Mar 31 16:59 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: overdone | Mar 31 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | Also too obvious. | Mar 31 17:00 |
| MinceR | https://telex.hu/english/2022/03/31/thrown-out-hungarian-mail-in-ballots-found-near-targu-mures-romania | Mar 31 17:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Thrown out Hungarian mail-in ballots found near Târgu Mureș, Romania. | Mar 31 17:05 | |
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| techrights-news | The United Kingdom Might Already Have the Highest Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Since February 2021 (Before Mass Vaccination) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/31/end-of-march/ | Mar 31 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » The United Kingdom Might Already Have the Highest Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Since February 2021 (Before Mass Vaccination) | Mar 31 17:21 | |
| techrights-news | The patronising EPO management, such as António Campinos who oppresses the Africans that his father fought to liberate, isn’t talking about the strike and is instead imposing Microsoft Windows on everyone, even stakeholders; the EPO is just about as corrupt as Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-and-colonialism/ | Mar 31 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO in Africa: Microsoft, Corruption, and Colonialism | Techrights | Mar 31 17:25 | |
| techrights-news | Frenchman Campinos perpetuates a legacy of colonialism; if his father Jorge was still alive, António would likely be yelled at http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/not-jorge/ | Mar 31 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] In Just a Few Years António Campinos is Undoing Decades of His Father’s Legacy | Techrights | Mar 31 17:25 | |
| techrights-news | EPO staff keeps warning about the collapse of patent quality at the EPO (it’s not even in compliance with the law; we gave many new examples this past weekend), but media is paid to say the exact opposite http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-cheating-and-bribing-media/ | Mar 31 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Best in the World. At Cheating and Bribing Media. | Techrights | Mar 31 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | Software freedom is the real social justice; don’t be distracted by spin from the war machine http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/rage-against-the-system/ | Mar 31 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Rage Against the Machine (Military-Industrial Complex) | Techrights | Mar 31 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | "This talk is about a simple strategy to teachers others about free software, without the need for lengthy explanations of freedom vs. proprietary comparisons.” http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/william-liggett-libreplanet-talk/ | Mar 31 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dr. William Liggett on Baby Steps to (Software) Freedom | Techrights | Mar 31 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | This is not progress, it's just more chaos https://www.maketecheasier.com/fedex-autonomous-delivery-air/ | Mar 31 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | FedEx to Test Autonomous Cargo Delivery by Air - Make Tech Easier | Mar 31 17:28 | |
| techrights-news | Delivery drones are based on technology already available like 30 years ago. So you know it's not true progress, it's just greed. | Mar 31 17:28 |
| techrights-news | Of course Australia would not rank UK and US. They probably outnumber the rest by far. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ | Mar 31 17:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Russia ranks top for state-linked online misinformation • The Register | Mar 31 17:29 | |
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| techrights-news | OUR misinformation is "well-meaning". THEIRS is "evil". But of course we also like to project this idea that theirs is false and ours is not. | Mar 31 17:31 |
| techrights-news | Because the West is consistently honest. "I did not have sex with that woman..." | Mar 31 17:32 |
| techrights-news | This study on misinformation is itself misinformation. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ | Mar 31 17:32 |
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| techrights-news | He should have done what Microbell from Phoronix does https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/yale_electronics_fraud/ | Mar 31 17:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Yale finance director stole $40m in computers to resell • The Register | Mar 31 17:34 | |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pudding | Mar 31 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Pudding | Mar 31 17:35 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag, which makes back doors with an OS around them, on exploits that target Rotten Apple https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/03/forcedentry-sandbox-escape.html | Mar 31 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-googleprojectzero.blogspot.com | Project Zero: FORCEDENTRY: Sandbox Escape | Mar 31 17:35 | |
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| matey | so this "baby steps to freedom" guy calls everything open source | Mar 31 17:37 |
| matey | he points out in his talk and in the summary of his talk (on his website) that free software is "also called open source" | Mar 31 17:38 |
| matey | and hes using free terminology because its more or less required by libreplanet | Mar 31 17:38 |
| techrights-news | Gulag talking about privacy. I nearly spat out the milk. https://blog.chromium.org/2022/03/what-to-expect-from-ps-testing.html | Mar 31 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.chromium.org | Chromium Blog: What to Expect from Privacy Sandbox Testing | Mar 31 17:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: I noticed that | Mar 31 17:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might be an adapted tlak | Mar 31 17:39 |
| matey | just saying that baby steps to freedom has been an open source theme for 20 years now | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that he gave to students | Mar 31 17:39 |
| matey | definitely adapted | Mar 31 17:39 |
| matey | i was an open source guy first... so i know the schtick pretty well | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | ime, all in all the talk is still better than nothing | Mar 31 17:39 |
| matey | okay | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did manage to hide/obscure FSF for quite some time | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that sort of changed | Mar 31 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, gnu "came back" | Mar 31 17:39 |
| matey | big quotes | Mar 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I managed to even convince some news sites to start saying "gnu/linux" and they still do | Mar 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so gnu re-emerged | Mar 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | even "free sofwtare" | Mar 31 17:40 |
| matey | what im saying is, everything is shifting to the "right" on this | Mar 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | many project use this term now | Mar 31 17:40 |
| matey | free software is shifting right to open source | Mar 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't think "open source" means much anymore | Mar 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like "liberal" in US | Mar 31 17:40 |
| MinceR | baby steps to dependence | Mar 31 17:41 |
| matey | ^ | Mar 31 17:41 |
| matey | baby steps to macos | Mar 31 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | baby steps to babytalk | Mar 31 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | "mainsoft' | Mar 31 17:41 |
| matey | i actually think its a balance, the problem is that open source doesnt think its about that | Mar 31 17:41 |
| MinceR | baby steps to baby minds | Mar 31 17:41 |
| matey | the metaphor ive used is "bridges" to free software | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had this argument with the new ED of OSI | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | he says | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | OSI's mission is different | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | from FSF | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he's the one drawing a line in the sand | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if to say, | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are not the same | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | different name, different thing | Mar 31 17:42 |
| matey | in 2018 19 or 20 i was talking about this bridge metaphor | Mar 31 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they STILL shill github | Mar 31 17:42 |
| matey | the bridge metaphor has three parts | Mar 31 17:42 |
| matey | the goal is to get across a moat (to freedom) | Mar 31 17:43 |
| matey | sometimes the last little bit of the bridge is gone-- if you make a small leap youre free | Mar 31 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 31 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, they can sod off | Mar 31 17:43 |
| matey | if you stay where you and wait for the last tiny snippet of bridge you might never get there | Mar 31 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | stefno can speak to his microwave | Mar 31 17:43 |
| matey | thats one part of the metaphor | Mar 31 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | while simon phipps texts his toilet bowl | Mar 31 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck to them | Mar 31 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | enjoy this shit | Mar 31 17:44 |
| matey | the other part is what this guys talking about | Mar 31 17:44 |
| matey | theres nothing wrong with building bridges-- so people dont have to swim through the moat | Mar 31 17:44 |
| matey | bridges are okay-- bridges can help you get across faster or more easily | Mar 31 17:44 |
| matey | im okay with that! | Mar 31 17:44 |
| MinceR | does the OSI admit what their mission is? | Mar 31 17:44 |
| matey | the third part of the metaphor addresses what im complaining about | Mar 31 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they tried to change it | Mar 31 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | eventually they did | Mar 31 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now how deb and bully wanted | Mar 31 17:44 |
| matey | if you build bridges longer and longer | Mar 31 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *not how | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | and put safety rails on either side so people cant fall off (or get on in the middle) | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | then you HAVE to start farther back | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | you can just keep building the bridge back farther and farther | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | now its "meant" to help but its actually keeping you from getting there. | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | thats open source imo | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | the helpers that make you cross longer and longer bridges to get to freedom | Mar 31 17:45 |
| matey | the bridge isnt the problem-- it matters how and why its built | Mar 31 17:46 |
| matey | so this was my bridge metaphor and i think its a lot better than all these damned baby steps | Mar 31 17:46 |
| matey | because this guy is a little full of shit imo | Mar 31 17:46 |
| matey | maybe ill watch the rest of it later | Mar 31 17:46 |
| matey | at least he didnt sign the anti-rms letter and hes not using github so | Mar 31 17:47 |
| matey | points for that | Mar 31 17:47 |
| matey | hes still open source https://junktext.com/projects/ | Mar 31 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Projects | junktext.com | Mar 31 17:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe old page? | Mar 31 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i did use the term in the past | Mar 31 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a lot less dirty 20 years ago | Mar 31 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | he uses AGPLv3 | Mar 31 17:48 |
| matey | he calls agpl3 open source software | Mar 31 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "junktext LLC is following the model of fair use such as advocated by the EFF and similar to how the commercial publication, Ars Technica (operated by Condé Nast), mentions trademarked words or uses trademarked logos in their articles. Furthermore, the owner of junktext LLC is a member of the EFF and will forward any copyright violation claims to them for assistance." | Mar 31 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Copyright © 2004 - 2022 " | Mar 31 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | It's a very old page | Mar 31 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the year I started schestowitz.com | Mar 31 17:49 |
| matey | its up to date | Mar 31 17:49 |
| matey | - 2022 | Mar 31 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many of the pages there are pre-2004 | Mar 31 17:49 |
| matey | The purpose of my talk was to help explain a long-term strategy to get more people using and caring about Free Software (also called: Open Source Software) through a series of small baby steps. For instance, an easy way is to get as many people you know to use the Firefox web browser on their home computer and smartphone instead of Google Chrome. | Mar 31 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't assume he changes evertything | Mar 31 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | just the footer | Mar 31 17:49 |
| kingoffrance | would it be accurate to say open source is lucy and she keeps moving the football matey ? | Mar 31 17:49 |
| matey | maybe look at the quote | Mar 31 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe php spits out the 2022 | Mar 31 17:49 |
| MinceR | he's confusing two terms | Mar 31 17:49 |
| matey | <kingoffrance> would it be accurate to say open source is lucy and she keeps moving the football matey ? <- i dont know but it would be fair to say its as full of shit as lucy is | Mar 31 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | "At present, many people today actual use a lot of open source software (also called free software)," | Mar 31 17:50 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Mar 31 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://junktext.com/about | Mar 31 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-About | junktext.com | Mar 31 17:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | links to https://www.fsf.org/ | Mar 31 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Front Page — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Mar 31 17:50 | |
| matey | formerly libre openly sleazy software | Mar 31 17:50 |
| matey | links to https://www.fsf.org/ <- good | Mar 31 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people still have articles and videos priaisng gates | Mar 31 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | those did not age well | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | its worth noting that this isnt a "kiss the ring" kind of issue imo | Mar 31 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | even less so if an investigation is unsealed | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> some people still have articles and videos priaisng gates <- like the one you were critcising just today? | Mar 31 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | for hanging out with jeff to meet "lots of rich people" | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | well that was praising microsoft | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | close | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | its worth noting that this isnt a "kiss the ring" kind of issue imo | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | like | Mar 31 17:51 |
| matey | if people said "open source" then all they ever talked about was how to be more free... i doubt i would care | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | the only reason i make a stink is | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | usually when they say "open source" | Mar 31 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | ftr, I always knew what gates was | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | you know in hours, days or maybe weeks, theyre going to show you what they REALLY meant | Mar 31 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I knew some inconsistent people on this matter | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | and its not as much about freedom | Mar 31 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | tho later went, "oh shit" | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | hey, in 2004, i was still open source | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | sure | Mar 31 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media mislead them, but gradually they realised it | Mar 31 17:52 |
| matey | listen, everybody gets LOTS of chances to get it right | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | this is a fucking OOOOOOOLD thing | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | its just that these days | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | the fsf is becoming MORE open sourcey | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | and i think its a bad sign | Mar 31 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, that's SFC | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | so the more of this i see, the more of a stink i make | Mar 31 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and LF was always proprietary | Mar 31 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF is not even open source | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | no, that's SFC <- cause it cant be both | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | its the whole movement is shifting open | Mar 31 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | SFC was evicted | Mar 31 17:53 |
| matey | even when they call it free software | Mar 31 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then bkuhn got a goodbye gift | Mar 31 17:54 |
| matey | they are talking about open source now | Mar 31 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they then had another run at him | Mar 31 17:54 |
| matey | theyre talking the talk now, but not walking the walk | Mar 31 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it failed | Mar 31 17:54 |
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| matey | even the tuxmachines slogan is obsolete | Mar 31 17:54 |
| matey | im not even blaming tm for this-- i could, im saying its not tm | Mar 31 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | do you waddle the waddle? | Mar 31 17:54 |
| matey | yeah | Mar 31 17:54 |
| matey | nobody waddles the waddle anymore. | Mar 31 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | how so? | Mar 31 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it still walks the walk | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | this is what i think. | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | nah | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | a few might | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | listen, all this week | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | ive been looking up LOADS of gnu projects | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | the ones that ARENT github based (its more than you think) | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | theres more gnuhub than you say | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | but thats not the point | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | ive been focused on the ones that ARENT on github | Mar 31 17:55 |
| matey | and the habits of their ADMINS (not even the other developers, just the top ones) | Mar 31 17:56 |
| matey | and you know what | Mar 31 17:56 |
| matey | most gnu project admins trust microsoft | Mar 31 17:56 |
| matey | with personal projects | Mar 31 17:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | trust TRUST? | Mar 31 17:56 |
| matey | trust implied. | Mar 31 17:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | or just have some mirror? | Mar 31 17:56 |
| matey | im talking currently or (VERY) recently active | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | even Microsoft does not trust Microsoft | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | with loads of things | Mar 31 17:57 |
| matey | nor should they | Mar 31 17:57 |
| matey | i think most softies assume their employer isnt you know, sheltering some guy at bills mansion that... etc | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | github is a funded catastrophe | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | operation at a loss | Mar 31 17:57 |
| matey | or maybe they dont care, but i bet they would | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | throwing bribes at people | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | started ahead in the lane | Mar 31 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they ambushed and bought a company | Mar 31 17:57 |
| matey | but what i mean is | Mar 31 17:58 |
| matey | behind all this talk of freedom | Mar 31 17:58 |
| matey | is a buttload of apathy | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not a codeplex that loses far more money than before | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a source who says | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the management is being thrown out | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | for faililing at the objective | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is vertical integration with azure | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft is still trying to find a way to make a profit there | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | like gulag with gulagtube | Mar 31 17:58 |
| matey | when rms promotes freedom, the one thing hes got that everyone knows (or (denies) hes got | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | github NEVER found a ways | Mar 31 17:58 |
| matey | is integrity | Mar 31 17:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for Twitter and for gitLAB | Mar 31 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for Azure... and Gulag Clown | Mar 31 17:59 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> github NEVER found a ways <- the github model is the walmart model. its doing exactly what they wanted | Mar 31 17:59 |
| matey | you think everything has to make money | Mar 31 17:59 |
| matey | its LOBBYING | Mar 31 17:59 |
| matey | lobbying can suck up your budget and still be worth it | Mar 31 17:59 |
| matey | they dont have to make money on github | Mar 31 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | not directly | Mar 31 18:00 |
| matey | it hurts their biggest competitors | Mar 31 18:00 |
| matey | it saves them money they would spend buying other companies | Mar 31 18:00 |
| matey | so it makes money the same way installing effiicent lighting or buying a new airconditioner makes money | Mar 31 18:00 |
| matey | air conditioners get so ineffiicent, so fast, replacing an old one basically pays for itself | Mar 31 18:01 |
| matey | in savings | Mar 31 18:01 |
| matey | some of that is probably hype | Mar 31 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | if made in some cheap labour country | Mar 31 18:01 |
| matey | but installing efficient lighting gives real savings | Mar 31 18:01 |
| matey | and pays for itself if you do it right | Mar 31 18:01 |
| matey | you think of github as only making money in traditional terms | Mar 31 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | insulation/double glazing | Mar 31 18:01 |
| matey | its an investment in more than just drawing funds | Mar 31 18:02 |
| matey | its an investment in control | Mar 31 18:02 |
| matey | how much money do they spend buying competitors and then axing them? | Mar 31 18:02 |
| matey | its part of the way theyve done business for decades | Mar 31 18:02 |
| techrights-news | "In the effort of adopting digital policies aligned with people's fundamental rights, the European Parliament is in the process of finding a position on the legal framework for the development and use of AI technologies." https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220330-01.en.html | Mar 31 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Artificial Intelligence (AI) Act: Free Software is key! - FSFE | Mar 31 18:02 | |
| matey | with github its like they bought 100 companies in one-- 500 companies | Mar 31 18:03 |
| matey | they bought google! | Mar 31 18:03 |
| matey | not all of it | Mar 31 18:03 |
| matey | they didnt buy all of nokia eithe | Mar 31 18:03 |
| matey | but nokia cant touch them now-- thats the point | Mar 31 18:03 |
| matey | hurting your competition is the same as making more money, except its worth more to them for longer | Mar 31 18:03 |
| matey | this is appalling but its how they do things | Mar 31 18:03 |
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| matey | you have to factor these things in when you figure out how much they really "blew" on github | Mar 31 18:04 |
| matey | what did they actually want. a hosting business? no. | Mar 31 18:04 |
| techrights-news | "In this article, I’ll show you how to create your personal learning portal with Moodle on a Raspberry PI single board computer." https://peppe8o.com/private-learning-portal-with-moodle-in-your-raspberry-pi/ | Mar 31 18:04 |
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| matey | they probably didnt even care about that when they did codeplex | Mar 31 18:04 |
| matey | they just wanted control | Mar 31 18:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/11/04/github-beginning-of-the-end/ | Mar 31 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Beginning of the End of the GitHub Near-Monopoly and Its Demise to CodePlex Status (a Slow-Motion Train Wreck) | Techrights | Mar 31 18:05 | |
| matey | +they make most of their money off the developer partnerships right? | Mar 31 18:05 |
| matey | http://techrights.org/2021/11/04/github-beginning-of-the-end/ <- not-even-the-predlude-to-the-beginning | Mar 31 18:05 |
| matey | im sure the truth is somewhere between how you call it and how mjg does | Mar 31 18:06 |
| matey | you think theyre done | Mar 31 18:06 |
| MinceR | "Today's the first day of the end of your lives." | Mar 31 18:06 |
| matey | whats the one rimmer wanted to make into a sign? | Mar 31 18:06 |
| matey | in the first red dwarf book | Mar 31 18:07 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Mar 31 18:07 |
| MinceR | the quote is from Postal2 | Mar 31 18:07 |
| matey | chris barrie worked for spitting image doing voiceovers | Mar 31 18:08 |
| matey | didnt know that | Mar 31 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think we should be careful not to make false assuptions about the relative share of github and git | Mar 31 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | many stioll pass tarballs around | Mar 31 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many are under the radar | Mar 31 18:09 |
| mjg59_ | matey: Microsoft needs developers, otherwise nobody writes interesting stuff for WIndows | Mar 31 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | github is like skype | Mar 31 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | its monopoly is fast eroding | Mar 31 18:09 |
| mjg59_ | matey: And the past 20 years saw a lot of developers migrate to MacOS as development targets moved from the desktop to the web instead, and your local OS made less difference | Mar 31 18:09 |
| mjg59_ | So Microsoft will do basically anything to encourage developers to be part of their ecosystem | Mar 31 18:10 |
| matey | and he was on blackadder the third | Mar 31 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | github already had several brain drain crises | Mar 31 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and nowadays massive outages too | Mar 31 18:10 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> I think we should be careful not to make false assuptions about the relative share of github and git <- i think YOU should, since ive done 80% of the research | Mar 31 18:11 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> many stioll pass tarballs around <- yes, im closer to being able to count those than you are | Mar 31 18:11 |
| matey | ive been through tensd of thousands of projects in the fsd | Mar 31 18:11 |
| matey | look, if you want to beat your chest and say DEWEY DEFEATS GITHUB you can do whatever you want | Mar 31 18:12 |
| matey | its your blog | Mar 31 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | mSM and microsoft-bribed 'analysts' like redmonk base 'research' on shithub data | Mar 31 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're not alone | Mar 31 18:12 |
| matey | but if you want to be right, id focus less on chestbeating and come back to reality | Mar 31 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've complained about this for years | Mar 31 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if you don't count unless or until Microsoft is your boss | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | mSM and microsoft-bribed 'analysts' like redmonk base 'research' on shithub data <- i base information about github on github | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | then i compare it to everything else. | Mar 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | github is NOT as important as the media puts it | Mar 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they bribe people, bribe media | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | i dont care what the media says about it | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | i do my own research | Mar 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so we are seeing a distorted view os the market | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | months at a time. | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | mmhmm | Mar 31 18:13 |
| matey | so we are seeing a distorted view <- yes we are | Mar 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 31 18:14 |
| matey | Open Source Won! | Mar 31 18:14 |
| matey | its funny when they say it | Mar 31 18:14 |
| matey | its stupid when "we" say it | Mar 31 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | github was becoming de facto standard | Mar 31 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | then microsoft touched it | Mar 31 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | after it has ambushed its growth since 2014 | Mar 31 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now it's like skype | Mar 31 18:14 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032927 | Mar 31 18:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | over time the share tapers off | Mar 31 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | people find new tools | Mar 31 18:15 |
| matey | github was becoming de facto standard <- then microsoft touched it <- then python and perl and npm joined | Mar 31 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and github is not "cool" anymore | Mar 31 18:15 |
| matey | yes i do timeline stuff too | Mar 31 18:15 |
| MinceR | it's funny because "open source" can't win | Mar 31 18:15 |
| matey | its not cool but it has more monopoly than it did a few weeks after the purchase | Mar 31 18:15 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ | Mar 31 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights | Mar 31 18:15 | |
| MinceR | if "open source" were to "win", proprietary software would win and "open source" would go away | Mar 31 18:15 |
| schestowitz | their OWN data ^^ | Mar 31 18:15 |
| matey | <MinceR> it's funny because "open source" can't win <- it depends what theyre trying to win-- like the rocky movie where he was supposed to throw the fight | Mar 31 18:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 31 18:16 |
| matey | open source is supposed to throw the fight-- thats how it "wins" | Mar 31 18:16 |
| MinceR | throwing the fight isn't winning, though | Mar 31 18:16 |
| matey | no its losing | Mar 31 18:16 |
| matey | but they cry all the way to the bank | Mar 31 18:16 |
| MinceR | "open source" is supposed to kill free software and then die | Mar 31 18:16 |
| matey | <MinceR> "open source" is supposed to kill free software and then die <- such nice friends-- better allies | Mar 31 18:16 |
| matey | so open source wins sort of like dr. zoidberg | Mar 31 18:17 |
| matey | first it "wins" | Mar 31 18:17 |
| matey | then it floats dead in a beach full of crustacean carcasses | Mar 31 18:17 |
| matey | but since the beach is wet and software hates being damp | Mar 31 18:18 |
| matey | github will do | Mar 31 18:18 |
| matey | come on in! the servers are fine! | Mar 31 18:18 |
| matey | we hope youll end your development lifecycle with us! | Mar 31 18:18 |
| matey | meanwhile microsoft looks at this mess and panics! | Mar 31 18:19 |
| matey | OH NO! | Mar 31 18:19 |
| matey | we arent making money from this-- AND ALL OUR COMPETITORS ARE DYING! | Mar 31 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | zoidberg has tentacles | Mar 31 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like shithub | Mar 31 18:19 |
| matey | :D AND ALL OUR COMPETITORS ARE DYING :D | Mar 31 18:19 |
| matey | zoidberg has tentacles <- not much of a futurama fan i guess | Mar 31 18:19 |
| matey | but if youre just comparing him to octocat, sure | Mar 31 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 31 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw | Mar 31 18:20 |
| matey | anyway theres only one way to be sure | Mar 31 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming you dislike many projects on shithub | Mar 31 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | because "open source" | Mar 31 18:21 |
| matey | just like we wont know if the april talk is old genric stuff or not until we see it | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | then when the whole thing drowns | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the better projects will be OK | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | sellouts will perish | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like channels that outsourced to gulagtube | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | rt et al | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | or to vimeo | Mar 31 18:21 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> assuming you dislike many projects on shithub <schestowitz-TR> because "open source" <- this is obviously not the process i use | Mar 31 18:21 |
| matey | openbsd is also "open source" | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd does not use shithub | Mar 31 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it has other issues | Mar 31 18:21 |
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| bnchs | how about this | Mar 31 18:22 |
| matey | openbsd doing "open source" reminds me more of gnu when it USED TO do "free software" than it does NOW when it does "free software" | Mar 31 18:22 |
| bnchs | alternative frontend for github | Mar 31 18:22 |
| matey | so that kind of "open source" while EXTREMELY rare | Mar 31 18:22 |
| matey | isnt the sort i worry about | Mar 31 18:22 |
| matey | de raadt for the most part isnt full of shit | Mar 31 18:23 |
| matey | though the times he has been-- ive held those against him for many years at a time | Mar 31 18:23 |
| matey | many many years | Mar 31 18:23 |
| matey | and usually it was something fairly small really | Mar 31 18:23 |
| matey | like being petty about stallman picking on them somewhat unfairly | Mar 31 18:23 |
| matey | and me only knowing the stallman side of the story | Mar 31 18:24 |
| matey | but i still talk about free software because open source is bullshit | Mar 31 18:24 |
| matey | just like free software is bullshit when you scratch the surface and find open source under it | Mar 31 18:25 |
| matey | if you scratch the surface of openbsd, i swear | Mar 31 18:25 |
| matey | its free software under that | Mar 31 18:25 |
| matey | thats what happens when you build things on integrity | Mar 31 18:25 |
| activelow | "open source" is a technical term, "free software" is a political one | Mar 31 18:25 |
| matey | open source is a propaganda term, free software is a philosophical one <- kingoffrance probably has valid objections here | Mar 31 18:26 |
| activelow | and both are chated with | Mar 31 18:26 |
| matey | <activelow> and both are chated with <- yes | Mar 31 18:26 |
| activelow | *cheated | Mar 31 18:26 |
| matey | i knew what you meant | Mar 31 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd is not "open source" | Mar 31 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd predates "open source" | Mar 31 18:28 |
| activelow | the modality of "open source" with regards to "free software" is the necessity of source-code publicly available; free software must be opensource, however open-source isn't the only criteria, it is insufficient to qualify any software as free | Mar 31 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the OSINT context not | Mar 31 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in the OSI sense | Mar 31 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the project is called openbsd | Mar 31 18:29 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> openbsd predates "open source" <- only according to revisionist history | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it makes sense for them to say "open" something | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | OSI is just a car accident | Mar 31 18:29 |
| matey | granted that revisionist history comes from osi | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to sweep it aside now | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and carry on driving | Mar 31 18:29 |
| matey | openbsd was only a couple years ahead of osi | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 31 18:29 |
| matey | go read the debian-private archives again | Mar 31 18:29 |
| matey | because open source is talked about there | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | i did | Mar 31 18:29 |
| matey | before 1998 i think | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence i say it | Mar 31 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian private is 96-17 iirc | Mar 31 18:30 |
| matey | either way, the term was already in use | Mar 31 18:30 |
| kingoffrance | "open source is a propaganda term, free software is a philosophical one" <-- legal, lawful, subjective, objective. no, no quibble, that makes sense :D | Mar 31 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they also say open hardware | Mar 31 18:30 |
| matey | 96 is the year openbsd started i think | Mar 31 18:30 |
| kingoffrance | the trick is the "lawful" quibble about words because they are important, the "legal" is loose because nothing really matters, so they appear 180 | Mar 31 18:30 |
| kingoffrance | so they superficially appear as opposite of what internally they are IMO lol | Mar 31 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | fwiw, if i can interject, epo management is a lot like microsof | Mar 31 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they pretend to be big, they break the law all the time, they pretend to be loved when everyone hates them | Mar 31 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | osi became like the epo's yellow union | Mar 31 18:32 |
| matey | so the slides of this libreplanet guy | Mar 31 18:32 |
| matey | basically present open source to the world all over again | Mar 31 18:32 |
| matey | free software is for nerds, we need a different approach that puts freedom off in the distant future | Mar 31 18:33 |
| matey | welcome to 1998 | Mar 31 18:33 |
| kingoffrance | i dont disagree with activelow "political" so much as...they was "open source" catchphrase. but now with everything "social" everything is "political" so its not really fashionable anymore | Mar 31 18:33 |
| matey | ill tell you what hes not a dr of: history | Mar 31 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | good point | Mar 31 18:33 |
| kingoffrance | *that was an | Mar 31 18:33 |
| kingoffrance | *catchphrase against FS | Mar 31 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me think how we can better market software freedom | Mar 31 18:33 |
| matey | the whole talk is presenting open source as if it hasnt been going on for the past 20 years | Mar 31 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | in light of "modern" challenges like toilet bowls with apps for them... and sensors | Mar 31 18:34 |
| matey | and it even uses examples that have used this philosophy to keep us going in circles | Mar 31 18:34 |
| activelow | the worst misnomer, with both technical and political terms, is the artificial distinction of free software from free hardware | Mar 31 18:34 |
| matey | so this guy is a dr, giving a talk based on a 20-year circular argument. | Mar 31 18:34 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, i agree 100% with activelow as well | Mar 31 18:34 |
| matey | the worst misnomer, with both technical and political terms, is the artificial distinction of free software from free hardware <- haha, i dont entirely agree but i like the angle anyway | Mar 31 18:34 |
| *schestowitz-TR thinks just reposting many libreplanet talk can contribute positively to awareness | Mar 31 18:34 | |
| matey | i disagree on technical grounds | Mar 31 18:34 |
| kingoffrance | software just volatized simulation of hardware ;d | Mar 31 18:35 |
| kingoffrance | *is just | Mar 31 18:35 |
| matey | ACTION thinks just reposting many libreplanet talk can contribute positively to awareness <- thinks that open source awareness does for the public what fox news does for political awareness | Mar 31 18:35 |
| kingoffrance | same thing in different stages/forms | Mar 31 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: I think it's about scarcity | Mar 31 18:35 |
| matey | <kingoffrance> same thing in different stages/forms <- open /free or sw/hw? | Mar 31 18:35 |
| kingoffrance | woz said old arcade games were just circuit boards. software just lets you avoid soldering to make an "update" | Mar 31 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | though you can share the designs freely | Mar 31 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | making them will cost money | Mar 31 18:35 |
| bnchs | "in light of "modern" challenges like toilet bowls with apps for them" | Mar 31 18:35 |
| bnchs | russian IP detected, disabling toilet | Mar 31 18:36 |
| matey | woz said old arcade games were just circuit boards. software just lets you avoid soldering to make an "update" <- so do flash bios | Mar 31 18:36 |
| kingoffrance | yep | Mar 31 18:36 |
| matey | <bnchs> russian IP detected, disabling toilet <- protest plumbing! | Mar 31 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: oh, shit | Mar 31 18:36 |
| matey | protestware is too much like drm on a bad day | Mar 31 18:36 |
| bnchs | protestware, alias for regionist malware | Mar 31 18:37 |
| bnchs | coined by brandon miller | Mar 31 18:37 |
| matey | when doctorow talked about drm in "rip a remix manifesto" (by brett gaylor who later went to work for crapzilla) he said drm was like the "urinary tract infection model of software distribution" | Mar 31 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ours is "protest" | Mar 31 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | theirs is "malware" | Mar 31 18:37 |
| matey | "every feature comes in painful slow spurting drip" | Mar 31 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:31] <techrights-news> OUR misinformation is "well-meaning". THEIRS is "evil". But of course we also like to project this idea that theirs is false and ours is not. | Mar 31 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:32] <techrights-news> Because the West is consistently honest. "I did not have sex with that woman..." | Mar 31 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:32] <techrights-news> This study on misinformation is itself misinformation. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ | Mar 31 18:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Russia ranks top for state-linked online misinformation • The Register | Mar 31 18:37 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:29] <techrights-news> Of course Australia would not rank UK and US. They probably outnumber the rest by far. | Mar 31 18:38 |
| matey | but the way drm works now is basically 1. authentication 2. failure / fuck you 3. buy more drm shit | Mar 31 18:38 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 31 18:38 |
| matey | and protestware is basically 1 & 2 from that | Mar 31 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | russia passed new waivers | Mar 31 18:38 |
| bnchs | but this is a drm you didnt agree on | Mar 31 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | russians will benefit from that | Mar 31 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media does not say that | Mar 31 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | they may use the exact same stuff | Mar 31 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but pay NOTHING to the West | Mar 31 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | how the West benefits is beyond me | Mar 31 18:39 |
| matey | <bnchs> but this is a drm you didnt agree on <- so its also like ransomware | Mar 31 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just lost customers | Mar 31 18:39 |
| bnchs | smart toilets have better ideas like microsoft | Mar 31 18:39 |
| matey | but ive compared drm to ransomware | Mar 31 18:39 |
| matey | they overlap like 80-90% | Mar 31 18:39 |
| bnchs | they can bribe real estates to put their smart toilet | Mar 31 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Mar 31 18:39 |
| bnchs | to install their smart toilets | Mar 31 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they go for landlords | Mar 31 18:39 |
| bnchs | market it as a good thing | Mar 31 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and try to compel them to subject tenants to abuse | Mar 31 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | as part of the contract | Mar 31 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | cctv, microphones, you name it | Mar 31 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | or south korea, in hotels... | Mar 31 18:40 |
| matey | russia: what this town needs is "strong leadership" | Mar 31 18:40 |
| bnchs | its basically like OEM | Mar 31 18:40 |
| bnchs | the universal microsoft plan | Mar 31 18:40 |
| matey | protestware on lotus toilets: what this town needs is an enema! | Mar 31 18:40 |
| kingoffrance | whether same org should be trying to push both free software and hardware, i dont know on that. they are both equally important IMO | Mar 31 18:41 |
| matey | whether same org should be trying to push both free software and hardware <- thing is, fsf is going to do free hw anyway | Mar 31 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the main difference is the copy of copies aspect | Mar 31 18:41 |
| matey | but just like it did with free culture, its going to get free hw WRONG | Mar 31 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can deploy a million copy of a program, but not without hardware | Mar 31 18:41 |
| bnchs | protestware on lotus toilets: gives russians an orgasm | Mar 31 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I cannot make hardware out of thin air | Mar 31 18:42 |
| matey | and just like with free culture | Mar 31 18:42 |
| matey | the cost of | Mar 31 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so FSF tackles the simpler task first | Mar 31 18:42 |
| bnchs | question if they're toiletsexual | Mar 31 18:42 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> and I cannot make hardware out of thin air <- tell me how to make software out of thin air then | Mar 31 18:42 |
| kingoffrance | its called cloud | Mar 31 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | there the scarcity is strictly aritificial | Mar 31 18:42 |
| kingoffrance | and...its gone! </south park> | Mar 31 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it exists | Mar 31 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | you copy it | Mar 31 18:42 |
| bnchs | have you ever seen a toilet that blasts water into your ass | Mar 31 18:42 |
| matey | you need equipment and electricity | Mar 31 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot copy hardware without some star trek magic | Mar 31 18:43 |
| matey | you may not need raw materials but the electricity certainly does | Mar 31 18:43 |
| matey | so does the equipment you use to make software | Mar 31 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can use pen and paper | Mar 31 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's slower | Mar 31 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you need to east | Mar 31 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that can take a while... | Mar 31 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | *eat | Mar 31 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:43] <matey> so does the equipment you use to make software | Mar 31 18:44 |
| matey | you can make hardware out of pen and paper too, but it will be about as useful as the software you made on pen and paper | Mar 31 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need to make the software just once | Mar 31 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | with hardware, the design | Mar 31 18:44 |
| matey | and i dont mean draw it-- i mean you can make working hardware out of pen and paper | Mar 31 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then you need lots of raw material and manufacturing | Mar 31 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and repairs are less predictable | Mar 31 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: you can run the algos without a computer | Mar 31 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's very slow | Mar 31 18:45 |
| matey | you can build a working computer with paper and a pen | Mar 31 18:45 |
| matey | but that too is very slow | Mar 31 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Mar 31 18:45 |
| matey | yes! | Mar 31 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | that computer would need power source | Mar 31 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you don't solve the issue | Mar 31 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | humans need food | Mar 31 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and can write out the processing | Mar 31 18:46 |
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| matey | /me makes a crank out of paper | Mar 31 18:46 |
| matey | behold a power source | Mar 31 18:46 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> humans need food <- what does that have to do with computing | Mar 31 18:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | humans are also processors | Mar 31 18:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they cannot have the same clock speeds | Mar 31 18:46 |
| bnchs | make a generator that gets energy from food? | Mar 31 18:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 64-bit-wide instruction setse | Mar 31 18:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | too muc for the brain | Mar 31 18:46 |
| matey | <bnchs> make a generator that gets energy from food? <- then connect it to the smart toilet | Mar 31 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and at 400MHz, or 4000 | Mar 31 18:47 |
| *psydruid wonders if anyone else is getting spammed GOG "reduction" codes | Mar 31 18:47 | |
| matey | <psydruid> ACTION wonders if anyone else is getting spammed GOG "reduction" codes <- not unless roys bot is doing it | Mar 31 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | Good Ol Games? | Mar 31 18:47 |
| psydruid | they must be desperate to get more customers | Mar 31 18:47 |
| matey | but honestly i think even it has higher standards than that | Mar 31 18:47 |
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| schestowitz-TR | maybe their Ukraine politics aren't paying off | Mar 31 18:47 |
| psydruid | yes | Mar 31 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now they need extra sales | Mar 31 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, they banned belarus too | Mar 31 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the ordinary belarus citizen is like wtf do you want from ME? | Mar 31 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are doing BDS, but b is belarus | Mar 31 18:48 |
| matey | <bnchs> have you ever seen a toilet that blasts water into your ass <- the smart toilet you posted about blasts water onto you | Mar 31 18:48 |
| psydruid | I've only ever "bought" free games from them to test them on WINE | Mar 31 18:48 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 31 18:48 |
| matey | they make a toilet with a "smart bidet" built in | Mar 31 18:48 |
| bnchs | but have you seen an instance | Mar 31 18:48 |
| bnchs | where the water blaster gives the person an orgasm? | Mar 31 18:49 |
| matey | i used to date someone who worked for someone who owned one. | Mar 31 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | "smart water" | Mar 31 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the water has wifi in it! | Mar 31 18:49 |
| matey | <bnchs> where the water blaster gives the person an orgasm? <- yes | Mar 31 18:49 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Smart Prostate(TM) | Mar 31 18:49 |
| bnchs | it will be used for the protestware | Mar 31 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | put bluetooth on that ProstateWARE | Mar 31 18:50 |
| bnchs | you can call russians toiletsexual | Mar 31 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple will detectProstate cancer early | Mar 31 18:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | with its ProstateWARE)TM) | Mar 31 18:50 |
| matey | so the point of open source is to conflat free software with open source | Mar 31 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but apple will use a better marketing term | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | at 37:00 in the libreplanet talk | Mar 31 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | something with "i" | Mar 31 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "apple" | Mar 31 18:51 |
| bnchs | iProstate | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | he literally says not to correct use of open source | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | but to say its ALSO CALLED free software | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | dont correct open source! | Mar 31 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and brandon will replace the prostates with hearts | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | im telling you | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | these people keep making my predictions come true | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | id rather be wrong | Mar 31 18:51 |
| matey | please make me wrong... | Mar 31 18:52 |
| matey | they keep making me right | Mar 31 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | the speaker? | Mar 31 18:52 |
| matey | he says a "strong community" wont correct use of "open source" | Mar 31 18:52 |
| bnchs | if brandon's ass doesnt overflow with hearts in prison | Mar 31 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think you should be harsher on OSI speaker | Mar 31 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | for we risk alienating another person with FSF shirt | Mar 31 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | you loathed what Dereke taylor saida | Mar 31 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | dnd wrote him off | Mar 31 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | since then he has said nothing positive about Microsoft | Mar 31 18:53 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> you loathed what Dereke taylor said <- do you want me to quote where you had IDENTICAL CONCERNS about dt in a side channel | Mar 31 18:53 |
| matey | before spending months rewriting history about what i said | Mar 31 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | he said about Microsoft, | Mar 31 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | something along the lines of, | Mar 31 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm starting to change my mind" | Mar 31 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | this was in relation ro edge | Mar 31 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that put us both off | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | for me a strike one | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think you escalated to third, faster... | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wrote off SJVN | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Schneier | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but only after years of BS | Mar 31 18:54 |
| matey | youre pulling the same crap as the talk right now | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | FOSSForce improved somewhat | Mar 31 18:54 |
| matey | saying it will alienate him if we point out hes wrong | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people can change a bit | Mar 31 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, | Mar 31 18:55 |
| matey | some people can cahnge a bit <- like phipps? | Mar 31 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not what I said | Mar 31 18:55 |
| matey | wait for the screencap | Mar 31 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, with phipps I was on the fence | Mar 31 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | then all hell broke lose when microsoft "joined" OSI | Mar 31 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he was insulted by what I had said | Mar 31 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | SJVN was off the books the moment he covered up for bill and "rich people"| | Mar 31 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | by defaming RMS | Mar 31 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not even bothering to correct | Mar 31 18:56 |
| matey | https://i.ibb.co/BBWJzvD/ffs.jpg <- people are paying to go to libreplaent to hear classic osi propaganda | Mar 31 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see | Mar 31 18:57 |
| matey | hes saying a strong community will conflate, rather than correct the use of "open source" to describe free sw | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think he suggestion is A LOT less bad that what I head | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | *hear | Mar 31 18:57 |
| matey | compare that to what johnsu said about linuxworld in 2008 | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I'd not condemn him for at least introducing people to the new (GNU) term.. the old/original one | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | he points them at another direction | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | like you and I | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | who said open source 17 years ago | Mar 31 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the term back then was nowhere as toxic | Mar 31 18:58 |
| matey | "It seems that some words are hard to say, and some would have us give in to their limiting Orwellian speak. Well tough, it's the Free Software Movement; listen up, because you're in Freedom's home town. " https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-responds-to-linuxworld-in-boston | Mar 31 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF Responds to LinuxWorld in Boston — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Mar 31 18:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR | so we need to capture the "open source" people | Mar 31 18:58 |
| matey | "We had big smiles on our faces at the FSF office recently, when journalists called to ask for our reaction to the LinuxWorld announcement, that they were coming to Boston in part because it was the birthplace and headquarters of the Free Software Foundation---which launched the Open Source Movement?" | Mar 31 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | an d send them to learn the real chronology | Mar 31 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what freedom means | Mar 31 18:58 |
| matey | this is just libreplanet going backwards | Mar 31 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they didn't hear about that side of it | Mar 31 18:58 |
| matey | but its never just an isolated incidenct | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | this is part of a 7-year pattern of the fsf in regression | Mar 31 18:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▆▇▇▁▃▄▅▃▄▃▅▅▂▆▇▅▄▃▆▇▆▇▆▆▆▂▃▇▇▁▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 25.28 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▃▂▃▁▂█▁▂▂▁▁▂▁█▁▂█▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 72.51▕ swarm size (avg): 408.36 ⟲ | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | with no end in sight | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | eveyrbody knows it | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | sometimes even you know it | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | but sometimes you prefer to do-- whatever this is | Mar 31 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | LinuxWorld has been defunct for over a decade | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | flipflopping | Mar 31 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was IDG iirc | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | LinuxWorld has been defunct for over a decade <- changing the subject | Mar 31 18:59 |
| matey | "we move on" | Mar 31 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | LinuxWorld had other "Worlds" | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | yeah, in circles | Mar 31 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | their purpose was to shoehorn their sponsors | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | LinuxWorld had other "Worlds" i think this msut be one of them | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | their purpose was to shoehorn their sponsor <- open source does that well | Mar 31 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 31 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are in this together | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | its free software + crap | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | or gnu/crap or gnu+crap | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | or as i like to call it now, crap | Mar 31 19:00 |
| matey | at least the fsf used to stand for something | Mar 31 19:01 |
| matey | now it stands for open source coming in to stand for nothing | Mar 31 19:01 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197 | Mar 31 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 19:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | so now you are upset that | Mar 31 19:01 |
| matey | no | Mar 31 19:01 |
| matey | i love being lied to | Mar 31 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf is not free-friendly enough? | Mar 31 19:01 |
| matey | everybody does | Mar 31 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that we need to go further than FSF, or something roughly along those lines? | Mar 31 19:02 |
| matey | fsf is not free-friendly enough? <- do you want to pretend im the only person here who realises the fsf is full of crap now? | Mar 31 19:02 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: "free software" is the misnomer, to separate it from free hardware, which is artificial, political, and not plausible to do - except for, political reasons, to do it | Mar 31 19:02 |
| matey | and that we need to go further than FSF <- actually id LOVE it if the fsf just stuck to the principles they had before. | Mar 31 19:02 |
| activelow | reminder: 1984 semiconductor protection act | Mar 31 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it's more so now than years ago | Mar 31 19:03 |
| matey | heh | Mar 31 19:03 |
| activelow | since when USA, systematically, strategically, organized sabotage and an embargo against the world economy | Mar 31 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | this year it did not award mr, mono | Mar 31 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | or mr. 'secure' boot | Mar 31 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | or debsoftr | Mar 31 19:03 |
| matey | well he already won | Mar 31 19:03 |
| matey | who did win this year? | Mar 31 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | check | Mar 31 19:03 |
| matey | (spoiler alert, github won) | Mar 31 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's cynical | Mar 31 19:04 |
| activelow | and with the misnomer of "free software" USA business entities could prevail the facade of "freedom", free trade, compliance with world trade regulations etc. | Mar 31 19:04 |
| matey | cant think of any reason id be cynical at this point | Mar 31 19:04 |
| matey | ill check today | Mar 31 19:04 |
| matey | im too busy to check this minute | Mar 31 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | go for it | Mar 31 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:18] <techrights-news> FSF Staff at LibrePlanet • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163181 | Mar 31 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Staff at LibrePlanet | Tux Machines | Mar 31 19:04 | |
| activelow | a facade, in parallel to "five eyes" industrial espionage, most severe anti-trust violations | Mar 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | those 'meta' talks won't be in techrights | Mar 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | no real substance | Mar 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it reminds me of medal ceremonies | Mar 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | of the rich | Mar 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | mr. billion dollars | Mar 31 19:05 |
| activelow | "free software" is good, however, it serves as a strategic utility, to monopolize USA interests, and their trade war | Mar 31 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | will give a "lifetime achievement" award to mrs. magnate | Mar 31 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the plutocrats int he audience, wearing tuxedos, clap clap clap | Mar 31 19:06 |
| matey | This year's recipients of the awards are Paul Eggert, Protesilaos Stavrou, and SecuRepairs | Mar 31 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | "she must be a very important person... did lots of HARD work' | Mar 31 19:06 |
| matey | i know eggert is a gnu developer | Mar 31 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: beyond software | Mar 31 19:06 |
| matey | i think hes red hat but im checking | Mar 31 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | like they did OSM before | Mar 31 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | free data | Mar 31 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, | Mar 31 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | red hat has a politician type | Mar 31 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | eggart iirc | Mar 31 19:07 |
| techrights-news | Intel pretends the vaccines have solved everything (they did not; see UK numbers) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/intel_covid_return_to_work/ | Mar 31 19:08 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/intel_covid_return_to_work/ | Mar 31 19:08 | |
| activelow | the 1984 semiconductor protection act, is one explanation, why almost all coprorations are monopolized and centralized in Silicon Valley aka. RAND Corp. US Military, to pull the strings from there | Mar 31 19:08 |
| matey | muckrack.com/paul-eggert/articles | Mar 31 19:08 |
| matey | Paul Eggert As seen in: The Conversation, Techrights.org | Mar 31 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 530 @ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/intel_covid_return_to_work/ ) | Mar 31 19:08 | |
| matey | Paul Eggert is a professor in the Computer Science department at University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) | Mar 31 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a guy in redhat, a manager, with a similar surname | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | 165 contributions in the last year <- github won. maybe they use # contributions to figure out who should win :) | Mar 31 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not a Paul | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | now im being cynical. | Mar 31 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are being pedantic | Mar 31 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is fine | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | there is a guy in redhat, a manager, with a similar surname <- yeah im getting nothing on eggert red hat | Mar 31 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then again both new additions to fsf board had shithub accounts | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> you are being pedantic <- thank you | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | rms is pedantic | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | and most of the people who fall short of him are not | Mar 31 19:10 |
| matey | of course by itself, being pedantic is awful | Mar 31 19:11 |
| matey | when theres nothing behind it. if you put it to a good use though... it can be wonderful | Mar 31 19:11 |
| matey | like mae west said | Mar 31 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | try eggart | Mar 31 19:11 |
| matey | im only interested in the winners right now | Mar 31 19:11 |
| matey | but i dont have time at this moment to look them up further | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | im sure i can get to that today | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | at any rate, i hope the fsf can get something right sometimes | Mar 31 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | david I think] | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | i dont think eggert is a bad person | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | hes a gnu developer | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | probably one of the good ones | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | they gave lessig a free sw award too | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | and oliva | Mar 31 19:12 |
| matey | im still a fan of lessig | Mar 31 19:13 |
| matey | after all these years | Mar 31 19:13 |
| matey | cc, no. lessig, yes. the worst thing about cc is theyre nothing like the founder | Mar 31 19:13 |
| matey | similar to the fsf. | Mar 31 19:13 |
| matey | but cc falls even further from the tree | Mar 31 19:13 |
| bnchs | by-nd? | Mar 31 19:14 |
| matey | anyway, i assume the worst about the winners, because as you said-- cynical | Mar 31 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | cc had severe struggles | Mar 31 19:14 |
| matey | <bnchs> by-nd? <- unfortunately sometimes | Mar 31 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and triued to pull things together | Mar 31 19:14 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> cc had severe struggles <- with integrity, yes. and they lost | Mar 31 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | joi ito was cruised by the mit thing | Mar 31 19:14 |
| matey | joi ito was involved with shady deals | Mar 31 19:15 |
| matey | maybe not his fault | Mar 31 19:15 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/13/21063873/jeffrey-epstein-lessig-nyt-defamation-lawsuit-mit-joi-ito-donations-interview | Mar 31 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Lawrence Lessig sues New York Times over MIT and Jeffrey Epstein interview - The Verge | Mar 31 19:15 | |
| matey | very unfortunate | Mar 31 19:15 |
| matey | yep | Mar 31 19:15 |
| schestowitz | they try to throw lessig under the bus too | Mar 31 19:15 |
| schestowitz | after he competed with hrc for president | Mar 31 19:15 |
| matey | yeah i hate when good people get thrown under the bus | Mar 31 19:15 |
| matey | he wasnt really competition. and neither was she | Mar 31 19:15 |
| matey | he just wanted to start a pac | Mar 31 19:15 |
| matey | she just wanted to start a war so she could make money :) | Mar 31 19:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/ | Mar 31 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights | Mar 31 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/01/26/mit-and-ms-or-mbs-billg/ | Mar 31 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | MIT and Microsoft Have Done Nothing to Actually Tackle Pedophilia and Ephebophilia | Techrights | Mar 31 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | ito was actuallt the one who "OUSTED" Gates | Mar 31 19:16 |
| matey | ill let you know what i find later. maybe it will be a happy awards year and none of them are scumbags | Mar 31 19:16 |
| matey | that would be alright with me | Mar 31 19:16 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Mar 31 19:16 | |
| activelow | "free software", at present, intentionally or by accident, serves to _spread_ non-free systems (IBM Wintel PC) globally, computer systems which RAND Corp. Pentagon US monopoly controls | Mar 31 19:17 |
| activelow | it is no coincidence, J.v.Neumann was a RAND Corp. affiliate, appealing to authority and history with my argument | Mar 31 19:17 |
| activelow | "free software", when it should be "free computers", academic freedom, freedom of science | Mar 31 19:18 |
| psydruid | "free computing" would be a better goal to strive for | Mar 31 19:20 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/station | Mar 31 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Station | Mar 31 19:21 | |
| activelow | furthermore, free computing products, could have been tailored to meet the requirements of academic freedem and freedom of science, and leave the commerce elsewhere to profiteer with | Mar 31 19:25 |
| techrights-news | Dishonest excuses and Microsoft spin https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/windows_11_stalls/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/ | Mar 31 19:25 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/windows_11_stalls/ | Mar 31 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Windows 11 growth at a standstill • The Register | Mar 31 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft ‘Delighted’ by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights | Mar 31 19:25 | |
| techrights-news | Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Recognition • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163198 | Mar 31 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Recognition | Tux Machines | Mar 31 19:25 | |
| activelow | alot of software and literature isn't of any commercial interest at the scale of income generated from video games, entertainment, and electronic waste production | Mar 31 19:26 |
| activelow | yet, profiteering and share-holder value had _not_ been the main objective of the strategy anyway, it was _total_ control over academia and science too, monopolized into the hands of a few in USA | Mar 31 19:27 |
| activelow | another spin is this, the strategy to seize full control, for global industrial espionage by USA, succeeded, however USA isn't capable to retain control with too much power concentrated in their hands | Mar 31 19:29 |
| activelow | which as one explanation, why software quality and the industry is falling apart | Mar 31 19:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | interesting | Mar 31 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually the excuse is a flase dichotomy | Mar 31 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | where all software must have masters | Mar 31 19:31 |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/yale_electronics_fraud/ | Mar 31 19:31 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/yale_electronics_fraud/ | Mar 31 19:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Yale finance director stole $40m in computers to resell • The Register | Mar 31 19:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | that aren't the user (free software) | Mar 31 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so if NSA^H^H^HClown Computing isn't uniquitious, then "China" or "Russia" or $Enter_Rival "wins" | Mar 31 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: he was not a Microsoft executive | Mar 31 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he faces charges | Mar 31 19:33 |
| techrights-news | Better for the environment https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/tsmc_predicts_pc_smartphone_slowdown/ | Mar 31 19:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/tsmc_predicts_pc_smartphone_slowdown/ | Mar 31 19:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | TSMC not worried about China's COVID lockdowns • The Register | Mar 31 19:34 | |
| activelow | another misnomer, is, with the "software freedom" granted, developers/users supposedly may choose which "operating system" they wanted | Mar 31 19:34 |
| activelow | when instead, the real operating system (no coincidence "BIOS" started in "real mode" btw.), is, the "BIOS", UEFI, etc. | Mar 31 19:34 |
| mjg59_ | It's not | Mar 31 19:35 |
| activelow | it isn't at least obvious anymore, how many such "operating systems" are installed inside a typical IBM Wintel system | Mar 31 19:35 |
| techrights-news | Fake security = set of cargo cults based on misconception, where platforms with back doors get taken for granted https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/the-reality-of-ot-segregation/ | Mar 31 19:35 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/the-reality-of-ot-segregation/ | Mar 31 19:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | The reality of OT segregation | Pen Test Partners | Mar 31 19:35 | |
| mjg59_ | Firmware isn't an operating system by any definition | Mar 31 19:35 |
| activelow | what's inside: the MMU? USB controller? Ethernet? | Mar 31 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | baseband | Mar 31 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "real" master | Mar 31 19:36 |
| mjg59_ | That's just not actually true? | Mar 31 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | zOD | Mar 31 19:37 |
| activelow | i mean, linux kernel (no blame intended), doesn't at least manage memory, it is MMU/IOMMU etc which do it. | Mar 31 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | zOS | Mar 31 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | when one OS can take over the other it's clear what dominates the whole | Mar 31 19:37 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: I… | Mar 31 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a hypervisor without this topology | Mar 31 19:37 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: I'm pretty sure these words do not mean what you think they mean | Mar 31 19:37 |
| mjg59_ | How do you think an MMU works? | Mar 31 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck figuring out how many components work | Mar 31 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hardware side | Mar 31 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd rejects x86 RNGs | Mar 31 19:39 |
| activelow | mjg59_: i suspect it isn't some static circuitry; yet i had not access to any internals of a typical IBM Wintel "north bridge" yet | Mar 31 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rightly so | Mar 31 19:39 |
| activelow | wouldn't surprise me, if there is some type of DOS operating system inside the north bridge, to "manage" memory | Mar 31 19:39 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: It is static circuitry | Mar 31 19:39 |
| mjg59_ | And even before memory controllers moved into the CPU, it was still in the CPU, not the memory controller | Mar 31 19:40 |
| mjg59_ | MMUs are just not complicated | Mar 31 19:40 |
| activelow | in terms of hardware development, a northbridge isn't some static filter, certainly not, and it probably isn't some simple state machine either | Mar 31 19:40 |
| mjg59_ | They just look at a memory access and say "yes" or "no", and then access the appropriate physical address | Mar 31 19:40 |
| techrights-news | Copyleft in court, in the hands of an org that pockets money from copyleft FOES https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/30/neo4j-v-purethink-open-source-affero-gpl/ | Mar 31 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | An Erroneous Preliminary Injunction Granted in Neo4j v. PureThink - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy | Mar 31 19:40 | |
| activelow | little more is known about the raspberry video-core (similar to "north bridge"), which got their own "firmware" too, which is the threadx RTOS | Mar 31 19:41 |
| activelow | which, is the _real_ operating system of raspberry pi, which cannot be changed either, regardless of any linux installed | Mar 31 19:41 |
| activelow | too, this RPI VC initializes memory, etc. | Mar 31 19:41 |
| mjg59_ | There's no similarity between the Pi's GPU and x86-style "north bridges" (which haven't existed for years) | Mar 31 19:42 |
| activelow | althoug, memory-controller init and mmu are different things again | Mar 31 19:42 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: You really don't appear to understand how computers work | Mar 31 19:42 |
| techrights-news | This issue was "Made in USA", but Schneier points the finger at those alleged to have taken advantage of it (probably very unreliable and politically-motivated evidence) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/chrome-zero-day-from-north-korea.html | Mar 31 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome Zero-Day from North Korea - Schneier on Security | Mar 31 19:42 | |
| mjg59_ | MMUs and IOMMUs apply extremely simple policy. The modern x86 MMU is not dramatically more complicated than the one in the 386. | Mar 31 19:42 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft: our software is UTTER SHIT. So we blame CHINA! http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Mar 31 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights | Mar 31 19:43 | |
| activelow | the i386 memory management was complicated already (including paging iirc), and i do not feel comfortable with ARM either btw. | Mar 31 19:44 |
| mjg59_ | In what universe is paging complicated? | Mar 31 19:45 |
| techrights-news | "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could cause a denial-of-service condition in the Ethernet port on the CPU module." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-303-01 | Mar 31 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC iQ-R, Q and L Series (Update C) | CISA | Mar 31 19:46 | |
| activelow | paging isn't, the entire x86 memory management was/is | Mar 31 19:46 |
| kingoffrance | eh, firmware is software that went "down" instead of up. it doesnt really matter. agree with activelow again | Mar 31 19:46 |
| activelow | anyway, the _real_ operating system isn't at least known to exist, almost always, which is ThreadX RTOS (too in the hands of california) | Mar 31 19:46 |
| mjg59_ | We're talking about something that dates back to the 60s | Mar 31 19:46 |
| mjg59_ | Real Mode's segmented architecture was more complicated | Mar 31 19:46 |
| activelow | i think, the "segmented" memory has it's roots in "bank switching" done with Z80 and i8086 | Mar 31 19:47 |
| mjg59_ | No | Mar 31 19:47 |
| techrights-news | "ATTENTION: Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity [...] Windows: All versions" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-067-01 http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ | Mar 31 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | PTC Axeda agent and Axeda Desktop Server (Update C) | CISA | Mar 31 19:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights | Mar 31 19:47 | |
| activelow | mjg59_: i may be in error; anyway | Mar 31 19:47 |
| mjg59_ | I'm not aware of any widespread 8086 platforms that did bank switching | Mar 31 19:47 |
| activelow | z80/i8080 got 16bit memory bus, which was 64KiB address space | Mar 31 19:48 |
| mjg59_ | Oh ffs | Mar 31 19:48 |
| kingoffrance | ive had this discussion before actually, roughly | Mar 31 19:48 |
| kingoffrance | you just end up with...wait for it ... | Mar 31 19:48 |
| mjg59_ | When we talk about memory bus size, we're normally talking about the number of data lines, not the number of address lines | Mar 31 19:48 |
| activelow | with bank switching, this 64KiB could be multiplixed, such as 10Banks yields 640KiB of memory... a voila, which is the CP/M MS-DOS era limitation | Mar 31 19:48 |
| kingoffrance | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004 Tadashi Sasaki attributes the basic invention to break the calculator into four parts with ROM (4001), RAM (4002), shift registers (4003) and CPU (4004) to an unnamed woman | Mar 31 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Intel 4004 - Wikipedia | Mar 31 19:49 | |
| mjg59_ | 8086 had a 16-bit memory bus, but 20 bits of addressing | Mar 31 19:49 |
| kingoffrance | unnamed woman. lol | Mar 31 19:49 |
| activelow | mjg59_: 4bits to switch banks in terms of z80 hackery | Mar 31 19:49 |
| mjg59_ | 8088 had an 8-bit memory bus, but still 20 bits of addressing | Mar 31 19:49 |
| activelow | ups, wrong, error | Mar 31 19:49 |
| activelow | 2^4 is 16banks | Mar 31 19:49 |
| mjg59_ | Yes. 8086 could address ~1MB of address space, but the region about 640K was used for other purposes | Mar 31 19:50 |
| mjg59_ | 8088, despite only having an 8-bit memory bus, was the same | Mar 31 19:50 |
| techrights-news | "latest sum of patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 is 2,220 (that was on Sunday/Monday). Maybe it’s 2,500 per day already; hard to tell due to lag in reporting… our government recently decided that COVID-19 is so “old news” that there’s no need to report anything during weekends." http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/31/end-of-march/ | Mar 31 19:50 |
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| mjg59_ | But if your registers are only 16 bits wide, how do you address 1MB of address space? | Mar 31 19:51 |
| mjg59_ | (Answer: segments) | Mar 31 19:51 |
| MinceR | or bank switching :> | Mar 31 19:52 |
| mjg59_ | Ha yeah ok | Mar 31 19:52 |
| mjg59_ | But that's a way to address 1MB of memory, not 1MB of address space | Mar 31 19:52 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Anyway 8086 did *not* do bank switching to access 640KB of RAM. MMUs do *not* run an operating system of any sort. You can look at die scans of the 386 and verify (tediously) that the MMU is static circuitry. | Mar 31 19:54 |
| activelow | anyway, paging is implemented by the "MMU", not linux kernel | Mar 31 19:54 |
| activelow | it is the MMU which controls this | Mar 31 19:54 |
| mjg59_ | Linux says "This page has these characteristics" | Mar 31 19:54 |
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| mjg59_ | The MMU enforces what Linux asked it to enforce | Mar 31 19:54 |
| activelow | that's why, for example, a j-core/SH2 no-mmu linux is, or better to say was, interesting, until GCC/binutils toolchain bricked support | Mar 31 19:55 |
| mjg59_ | wtf | Mar 31 19:55 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: Seriously I am not convinced you understand how hardware works at all | Mar 31 19:55 |
| techrights-news | "A new rolling remix of Ubuntu is grabbing attention, AMD has big Linux plans, and why Linux 5.18 looks like another barn burner release." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148077/linux-action-news-234/ | Mar 31 19:55 |
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| mjg59_ | It's like saying "Arithmetic is implemented by the CPU, not the kernel" | Mar 31 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | ALU | Mar 31 19:56 |
| mjg59_ | Things that have to be done in hardware are done in hardware | Mar 31 19:56 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_logic_unit | Mar 31 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Arithmetic logic unit - Wikipedia | Mar 31 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | I worked with some first hand | Mar 31 19:57 |
| activelow | mjg59_: yes, both integer (such as 64bit int with 16bit ALU) and fpu operations can be implemented in software | Mar 31 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I even designed a culculator | Mar 31 19:57 |
| activelow | anyway, this is what happened: http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html | Mar 31 19:57 |
| mjg59_ | If you wanted paging to be done in the kernel, you'd need every single memory access to go via the kernel | Mar 31 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. | Mar 31 19:57 | |
| schestowitz | *calc | Mar 31 19:57 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/cops-are-being-trained-to-use-literal-witchcraft-to-find-dead-bodies/ | Mar 31 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | the kernel does not do so much | Mar 31 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | the kernel sends machine commands | Mar 31 19:57 |
| schestowitz | the kernel takes low-levewl resource allocationm requests | Mar 31 19:57 |
| activelow | it isn't at least clarified what and how it is implemented, inside the MMU | Mar 31 19:57 |
| schestowitz | and nowadays passes them to some malware | Mar 31 19:57 |
| schestowitz | the endpoints of hardware | Mar 31 19:58 |
| activelow | and yes, linux kernel did support no-mmu, with SH2 turtle board... which ended nowhere, sadly | Mar 31 19:58 |
| schestowitz | often some opaque thing you can barely change | Mar 31 19:58 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: How complicated do you think it needs to be to take a virtual address, look it up in the page tables (which are entirely under kernel control), decide whether the access is permitted or not and then pass that on to the memory controller? | Mar 31 19:58 |
| schestowitz | linux is also very bloated btw | Mar 31 19:59 |
| schestowitz | so opaque are not just endpoints | Mar 31 19:59 |
| schestowitz | at this point torvalds has no clue what goes on? | Mar 31 19:59 |
| schestowitz | new driver? 500,000 line? "I trust you!" Added | Mar 31 19:59 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/nokia-busted-helping-russias-fsb-spy-on-citizens-activists-journalists/ | Mar 31 19:59 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ericsson bribed isis | Mar 31 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | helped isis for money | Mar 31 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | those swedes and finns | Mar 31 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | so progressive | Mar 31 20:00 |
| activelow | mjg59_: with complex instruction decoding and pipelining involved, not sure how this intersects with paging, don't know | Mar 31 20:00 |
| activelow | mjg59_: seems noone knows, otherwise there had not been spectre/meltdown and similar issues | Mar 31 20:00 |
| MinceR | https://abstrusegoose.com/594 | Mar 31 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abstrusegoose.com | Abstruse Goose | sandbox | Mar 31 20:01 | |
| activelow | yet, i do know, "firmware" update was published to address those issues, with memory management involved, and if the MMU isn't some FPGA (which i doubt it is), then chances are some software is involved with the MMU | Mar 31 20:01 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: How would instruction decoding or pipelining interact with paging? | Mar 31 20:02 |
| activelow | mjg59_: memory access violations (NX-bit, management of CPU caches) | Mar 31 20:03 |
| mjg59_ | You could certainly end up with scenarios where the wrong memory access is attempted, but that's upstream of the MMU | Mar 31 20:03 |
| mjg59_ | And cache behaviour is downstream of it | Mar 31 20:03 |
| activelow | in Z80 era, i recognize the CPU cache as main-memory, such as 512KiB SRAM are nowadays 512KiB cpu cache | Mar 31 20:03 |
| activelow | with an important difference, with Z80 the operating system had control over the SRAM, and how it is allocated | Mar 31 20:05 |
| techrights-news | "Another game now is performing better with dxvk caching... I'd be scared if I were working for Microsoft" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3SDNH3ZpT48 | Mar 31 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Is Windows losing its chokehold on Gaming? - Invidious | Mar 31 20:05 | |
| activelow | nowadays, it is impossible to know, what the MMU does, doesn't; just one example; and with USB it is at least as interesting | Mar 31 20:07 |
| techrights-news | Easily Set up Remote Backups With Free/Libre Software Duplicati https://vitux.com/ubuntu-bootable-usb-stick/ | Mar 31 20:07 |
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| mjg59_ | activelow: You could just not enable paging if you wanted? | Mar 31 20:07 |
| mjg59_ | x86 runs fine without it | Mar 31 20:07 |
| activelow | mjg59_: the BIOS, which is the _real_ operating system, is executed in real mode, not protected mode | Mar 31 20:08 |
| mjg59_ | The BIOS is not the "real" operating system | Mar 31 20:09 |
| mjg59_ | Paging is not enabled in real mode | Mar 31 20:09 |
| mjg59_ | This is like some weird soverign citizen thing | Mar 31 20:09 |
| mjg59_ | Something executing in real mode doesn't make it the real anything | Mar 31 20:09 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Parrot 5.0 Home Edition and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6HHBTxvwS8 | Mar 31 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Parrot 5.0 Home Edition overview | designed for developers and everyday users. - Invidious | Mar 31 20:10 | |
| techrights-news | This Extension Shows Weather Forecast as Desktop Widget in Ubuntu 22.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163199 | Mar 31 20:11 |
| kingoffrance | "The BIOS is not the "real" operating system" its just 5 volume controls all over again | Mar 31 20:12 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software. "CVE-2022-21228 has been assigned to this vulnerability. A CVSS v3 base score of 7.8 has been calculated" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-090-03 | Mar 31 20:12 |
| kingoffrance | there's no terminology, so it just gets overloaded | Mar 31 20:12 |
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| kingoffrance | let me dig up a manual | Mar 31 20:13 |
| kingoffrance | https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/22004b.pdf | Mar 31 20:15 |
| kingoffrance | pdf page 57 | Mar 31 20:15 |
| kingoffrance | Many systems designed with the ÉlanSC520 microcontroller are native embedded systems that do not have a BIOS. | Mar 31 20:15 |
| kingoffrance | so its just word games. some oses use bios, 'embedded' stuff that is less common | Mar 31 20:16 |
| kingoffrance | bios is just 'standardizatino" in a sense (however poorly that was in practice) | Mar 31 20:16 |
| kingoffrance | so, people making things one dimensional as always | Mar 31 20:16 |
| kingoffrance | there is 'embedded' and there is 'desktop' and they blithely use the same words without nuance | Mar 31 20:16 |
| kingoffrance | activelow is perfectly fine with his definition | Mar 31 20:17 |
| kingoffrance | if an 'os' can replace a 'bios' that tells you exactly what a 'bios' is | Mar 31 20:18 |
| kingoffrance | and the 'desktop' people have their own 'bios' definition that is different | Mar 31 20:19 |
| kingoffrance | its entirely in the eye of the beholder (person writing an os) | Mar 31 20:20 |
| mjg59_ | BIOS in the tradtional x86 sense is definitely not an OS | Mar 31 20:20 |
| mjg59_ | UEFI could be argued to have most of the characteristics of an OS during boot services, but doesn't after ExitBootServices() is called | Mar 31 20:21 |
| kingoffrance | "traditional" there is 'embedded' and 'desktop' there is no one "tradition" | Mar 31 20:22 |
| kingoffrance | never was, is not, and never will be. the holy trinity | Mar 31 20:22 |
| activelow | "BIOS" even implements almost all device drivers (disks, vga, keyboard) already, which kernel again has to - duplicated | Mar 31 20:23 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ | Mar 31 20:23 |
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| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163200 | Mar 31 20:23 |
| mjg59_ | kingoffrance: "Traditional x86" is desktop-style - embedded x86 with no PC-style BIOS is an extremely small niche | Mar 31 20:24 |
| activelow | a traditional "BIOS" was executed on main cpu; nowadays in UEFI era intelME, AMD PSP, raspberry videocore etc. etc. are executed on a separate CPU | Mar 31 20:24 |
| mjg59_ | Oh ffs | Mar 31 20:25 |
| mjg59_ | No | Mar 31 20:25 |
| mjg59_ | Equating all these things is missing the point | Mar 31 20:25 |
| mjg59_ | They're all meaningfully different in ways that matter | Mar 31 20:25 |
| mjg59_ | And ME long predates the UEFI transition | Mar 31 20:26 |
| activelow | too the Northbridge/MMU/MCU | Mar 31 20:26 |
| activelow | so, nowadays, careful inspection is necessary, what, besides the real operating system, the real CPU is, how many thereof, and which is secondary | Mar 31 20:26 |
| mjg59_ | The "north bridge" hasn't existed for a *long* time | Mar 31 20:27 |
| mjg59_ | All that functionality was subsumed into the CPU in the 2000s | Mar 31 20:27 |
| techrights-news | Today, ICBM speaks of "sustainability CSR (corporate social responsibility), and DEI (diversity, equity, inclusion)" after enabling the Holocaust, for profit. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/it-leaders-drive-esg | Mar 31 20:27 |
| mjg59_ | But nothing it did could be described as involving secondary CPUs | Mar 31 20:27 |
| activelow | on modern AMD mainboards, the real cpu is known to be an ARM core btw.; to execute some real operating system there (not sure what it is) | Mar 31 20:28 |
| activelow | IntelME is a Minix | Mar 31 20:28 |
| techrights-news | “In my experience, resistance to change is most often based in fear"... so buy new crap from ICBM, to replace what already works. It's better... for ICBM Red Hat https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/encouraging-change-ready-mindset-7-tips | Mar 31 20:28 |
| mjg59_ | What is "Real CPU" in this context? | Mar 31 20:29 |
| techrights-news | "When to choose Golang versus Python and YAML for writing Kubernetes webbooks." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/kubernetes-webhooks-golang | Mar 31 20:29 |
| activelow | real CPU and real OS are the ones which "supervise" any guest, such as linux kernel executed on secondary CPU like an AMD threadripper | Mar 31 20:30 |
| mjg59_ | Yeah, the PSP doesn't do that | Mar 31 20:30 |
| mjg59_ | It has no supervisory capabilities | Mar 31 20:30 |
| techrights-news | ICBM is still promoting the "Watson" brand. Does it assume that ICBM's client won't find out what Mr. Watson did? It is the ReiserFS syndrome https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/ibm-previews-developer-technology-sandbox-to-help-developers-explore-new-technologies/ | Mar 31 20:31 |
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| mjg59_ | It does boot before the x86 cores, but after that it's just another device | Mar 31 20:31 |
| MinceR | after booting, it runs Kinibi TE, iirc | Mar 31 20:31 |
| techrights-news | ICBM: don't say master. It offends some people. http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/ | Mar 31 20:31 |
| mjg59_ | You can extract all the code that runs on the PSP easily enough | Mar 31 20:31 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163201 | Mar 31 20:31 |
| mjg59_ | https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool | Mar 31 20:31 |
| MinceR | well, at least the Kinibi part | Mar 31 20:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we covered this yesterday | Mar 31 20:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | amd shoukd nuke it | Mar 31 20:32 |
| mjg59_ | If it were a host/guest scenario, the host would be able to inspect all the state of the guest | Mar 31 20:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | not outsource this to microsoft | Mar 31 20:32 |
| mjg59_ | Which it can't | Mar 31 20:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you don't assume this is what goes on the chip | Mar 31 20:33 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: There's no assumption here, you can dump it directly from flash | Mar 31 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | advanced microsoft devices | Mar 31 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | witrh microsoftr pluton | Mar 31 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and psp, not the sony one | Mar 31 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | you dumb binaries | Mar 31 20:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | dump | Mar 31 20:34 |
| mjg59_ | Sure, and then you reverse engineer the binaries | Mar 31 20:35 |
| mjg59_ | It's not hard? | Mar 31 20:35 |
| mjg59_ | I mean, I can do it, and you keep saying that I'm a bad programmer, so you should easily be able to do it | Mar 31 20:35 |
| techrights-news | Under ICBM Red Hat has quit the server market! Now it's all clowns. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-shares-cloud-services-basics | Mar 31 20:36 |
| activelow | another problem, down to hardware level, is logic analyzers and digital scopes, and their bandwidth and data channels required | Mar 31 20:36 |
| activelow | i mean, with USB1 and 10Mbps ethernet, there is at least a theoretical chance, to hook into a digital scope, de-modulize/de-code this | Mar 31 20:37 |
| techrights-news | Saying you need not have servers because "the clown" is like saying you no longer need any water because you have concentrated syrup | Mar 31 20:37 |
| bnchs | psp? | Mar 31 20:37 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: Platform Security Processor | Mar 31 20:37 |
| bnchs | focus on intel me first | Mar 31 20:37 |
| bnchs | then psp | Mar 31 20:37 |
| mjg59_ | Oh | Mar 31 20:38 |
| bnchs | or mahbe equally | Mar 31 20:38 |
| mjg59_ | ME is more worrying than PSP, in that it does have access to more hardware | Mar 31 20:38 |
| techrights-news | Business: the media told us the clown is the future, so we threw away all our servers. Now we are futuristic! And Serverless(TM). | Mar 31 20:38 |
| bnchs | i'm still jealous about how much homebrew support the PSP | Mar 31 20:39 |
| activelow | besides, all digital scopes i am aware of, are proprietary things | Mar 31 20:39 |
| bnchs | btw sony's SDK only supports the old versions of C++, which cuts off most of the programs and emulators | Mar 31 20:40 |
| bnchs | which i dont use anyway | Mar 31 20:40 |
| techrights-news | "Cloud services" and other mouth-watering buzzwords. Me eyes are wet, busting with thrills. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-summit-2022-session-catalog-and-agenda-builder-now-available | Mar 31 20:40 |
| bnchs | serverless is retarded | Mar 31 20:41 |
| activelow | another option is, to restrict this approach, to audio-band, 20KHz/16bit... ~10Kbps*16; | Mar 31 20:41 |
| bnchs | every computer has to be a server for something | Mar 31 20:41 |
| activelow | for the sake of fun and freedom, Xoscope and similar, logic analyzers, software de/modulators, de/encoders | Mar 31 20:41 |
| activelow | i mean, i would be curious too, to hook into a digital scope, to see what's there, on HDMI | Mar 31 20:42 |
| techrights-news | "This could be exploited to pass data from local files to a remote system controlled by an attacker." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-090-01 | Mar 31 20:42 |
| activelow | anyway, again limitations point to an era of "free computing", 40 years ago | Mar 31 20:43 |
| activelow | and pencil and paper | Mar 31 20:44 |
| activelow | with maths books nearby | Mar 31 20:44 |
| activelow | maybe there is a chance, to implement some hayes 300 modem, 100% free and opensource | Mar 31 20:45 |
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| techrights-news | Steam Play Proton could get direct support for NVIDIA Image Scaling | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-play-proton-could-get-direct-support-for-nvidia-image-scaling/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Mar 31 20:45 |
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| bnchs | activelow: you were right about c++ | Mar 31 20:45 |
| techrights-news | "OneXPlayer are a series of handheld gaming devices, they're somewhat popular and it appears they've been keeping a close eye on SteamOS and how it's been working on the Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/onexplayer-looking-at-shipping-handhelds-with-steamos-like-the-steam-deck/ | Mar 31 20:46 |
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| activelow | soon i'll know, which software remains with a C-only profile... | Mar 31 20:49 |
| techrights-news | How do kids conceive the internet? ⚓ https://curlybracket.net/2022/03/31/internet-kids.html "I decided to interview children between 10 and 18." ䷉ Source: curlybracket | Mar 31 20:49 |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163202 | Mar 31 20:49 |
| activelow | Xoscope? and which and how many of the signal processing stuff (logic analyzers, software de/modulators, de/encoders)? | Mar 31 20:50 |
| activelow | or, is it a better choice, to skip the entire 32bit unix, and fully depart to 16bit FuzixOS? | Mar 31 20:51 |
| activelow | without a digital scope, only an analog one. | Mar 31 20:51 |
| techrights-news | Games: Steam, Proton Experimental, and Steam Deck • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163203 | Mar 31 20:52 |
| activelow | for 16bit SDCC compiler exists, and it is GPL2 | Mar 31 20:53 |
| activelow | yet, with 16bit unix, i'm disconnected from the internet, no IRC, no mail, no www. | Mar 31 20:53 |
| bnchs | 16-bit? | Mar 31 20:53 |
| activelow | FuzixOS, SDCC compiler... it's still there, GPL2 | Mar 31 20:54 |
| bnchs | the PS3 porting community still has problems with emulators these days | Mar 31 20:55 |
| bnchs | they have an entire list for stuff to be rewritten to C98, or OpenGL 1 | Mar 31 20:55 |
| techrights-news | "Every year, LibrePlanet organizers ask the free software community for short talks called "lightning talks." Below are the submissions we received in 2022. All speakers agreed to licensing their work under a CC BY-SA 4.0 license." https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talks-b463/ | Mar 31 20:57 |
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| techrights-news | FSFE, FSF’s LibrePlanet, and SFC Updates • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163204 | Mar 31 21:03 |
| techrights-news | "Greg Farough gives a final wrap-up of the LibrePlanet 2022 conference events." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163181#comment-33247 | Mar 31 21:06 |
| MinceR | focus on whatever you like, the first CPU to be fixed is the first one that will be used in security-critical applications :> | Mar 31 21:07 |
| techrights-news | Gulag turns away from search, becomes imperialistic censorship machine https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/google_misinfo_features/ | Mar 31 21:08 |
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| MinceR | reminds me of the Imperialistic Bullshit Machine | Mar 31 21:09 |
| techrights-news | Next versions of both Fedora and Ubuntu head into beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197#comment-33248 | Mar 31 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: it turned into a large missile | Mar 31 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with 3 phases | Mar 31 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | phase | Mar 31 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I | Mar 31 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | phase B | Mar 31 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and booM | Mar 31 21:12 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Mar 31 21:13 |
| techrights-news | Sungard dies, but in the UK we use misleading terms for that https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/uk_arm_of_sungard_availability/ | Mar 31 21:17 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/uk_arm_of_sungard_availability/ | Mar 31 21:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Cloud and DC player Sungard's UK arm in administration • The Register | Mar 31 21:17 | |
| techrights-news | Facebook should not even exist. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/meta_tiktok_lobbying/ | Mar 31 21:18 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/meta_tiktok_lobbying/ | Mar 31 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Meta accused of hiring consultancy to discredit TikTok • The Register | Mar 31 21:18 | |
| techrights-news | This will make all your work deeply dependent Gulag. Better choose another framework and P/L. https://medevel.com/17-youtube-channles-learn-flutter/ | Mar 31 21:20 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/17-youtube-channles-learn-flutter/ | Mar 31 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 17 Top YouTube Channels to learn Flutter development for beginners and experts | Mar 31 21:20 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag and Microsoft are both notorious for shutting down their own things when you least expect and when you become most dependent on them. They simply don't care about anyone but themselves. And they hardly hide it... | Mar 31 21:21 |
| techrights-news | "consider showing your support via going Phoronix Premium or PayPal tip to allow for more time/resources for such investigative benchmarking." $500,000 gifts from AMD/Intel not enough? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-518-Stress-NUMA-Goes-Boom see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ | Mar 31 21:23 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-518-Stress-NUMA-Goes-Boom | Mar 31 21:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Poking At A Big NUMA Benchmark Regression In Linux 5.18 Git - Phoronix | Mar 31 21:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights | Mar 31 21:23 | |
| techrights-news | "Gemini support was recently added to rover making it a gemini client of sorts." gemini://kayvr.com/gemlog/2022-03-31-Rover-Tours-With-Gemini.gmi | Mar 31 21:25 |
| techrights-news | Not-Always Online Computing gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-31-not-always-online-computing.gmi "To maximize my freedom of movement I decided that whatever I could easily do offline I should." | Mar 31 21:26 |
| techrights-news | "Rob's Gemini Capsule launched one year ago today. In some ways, it's hard to believe that I've been active on Gemini for that long." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220331-one-year-on-gemini.gmi | Mar 31 21:27 |
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| AdmFubar | https://epic.org/postal-service-surveillance-program-targeted-in-epic-lawsuit-exceeded-legal-authority-inspector-general-finds/ | Mar 31 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-epic.org | Postal Service Surveillance Program Targeted in EPIC Lawsuit ‘Exceeded’ Legal Authority, Inspector General Finds – EPIC – Electronic Privacy Information Center | Mar 31 21:32 | |
| AdmFubar | https://epic.org/boston-herald-facial-scanning-coming-to-an-airport-near-you-raising-some-concerns/ | Mar 31 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-epic.org | Boston Herald: Facial scanning coming to an airport near you, raising some concerns – EPIC – Electronic Privacy Information Center | Mar 31 21:32 | |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.project-disco.org/competition/033122-despite-warnings-republicans-poised-to-stick-peach-state-with-steep-legal-tab-for-political-stunt/ | Mar 31 21:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: project-disco.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/033122-despite-warnings-republicans-poised-to-stick-peach-state-with-steep-legal-tab-for-political-stunt/ | Mar 31 21:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.project-disco.org | Despite warnings, Republicans poised to stick Peach State with steep legal tab for political stunt - Disruptive Competition Project | Mar 31 21:34 | |
| techrights-news | KDE gestures, and Fedora 36 beta https://yewtu.be/watch?v=05NVEYrS3Rs | Mar 31 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Intel Arc GPUs, KDE gestures, and Fedora 36 beta - Linux and open source News - Invidious | Mar 31 21:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: april 1st comes early | Mar 31 21:35 |
| techrights-news | "I've been making Arch videos on this channel for a while but I need to tell you a secret, I'm not really an Arch Linux user and I've never even used a tiling window manager." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EshY9vDTGrM | Mar 31 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | I've Never Used Arch Linux (APOLOGY VIDEO) - Invidious | Mar 31 21:35 | |
| techrights-news | Judging by a lack of googlebombing WSL/WSL2 is already dead in the water. Microsoft wastes money on something nobody would ever want. | Mar 31 21:38 |
| techrights-news | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows About GNU/Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163205 | Mar 31 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows About GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 31 21:41 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/samsung-self-repair-program | Mar 31 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung introduced Galaxy device self-repair program - Protocol | Mar 31 21:45 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | wb | Mar 31 21:46 |
| matey | learned something interesting from the securepairs website | Mar 31 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | chua explains what's new in emacs: " https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talks-b463/ | Mar 31 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | Lightning Talks — GNU MediaGoblin | Mar 31 21:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | at first I thought it was synthetic voice | Mar 31 21:47 |
| matey | theres a "first sale doctrine" precedent / ruling that applies to patents | Mar 31 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | computer-generated | Mar 31 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | we still have about 20 decent videos of talks we can publish | Mar 31 21:48 |
| matey | this is a good thing, first sale means what you buy is yours, even if you cant copy it | Mar 31 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll take another week to digest them all | Mar 31 21:48 |
| matey | if i buy a book, copyright doesnt dictate what i can do with it, becuase of first sale | Mar 31 21:48 |
| matey | dmca is at odds with first sale doctrine | Mar 31 21:48 |
| matey | it shouldnt have ever passed | Mar 31 21:49 |
| matey | first sale is what makes used book stores and libraries possible | Mar 31 21:49 |
| matey | libraries cant copy but they can lend, publisher cant do shit | Mar 31 21:49 |
| matey | then came drm | Mar 31 21:49 |
| psydruid | is Microsoft making so much noise because they are at risk of becoming a minor player in the US home market? | Mar 31 21:49 |
| matey | dont know | Mar 31 21:50 |
| matey | but securepairs said | Mar 31 21:50 |
| psydruid | elsewhere in the world they still seem to be going strong | Mar 31 21:50 |
| matey | As recently as 2017, the U.S. Supreme Court noted in its ruling in Lexmark vs. Impression Products in 2017 (PDF), that the doctrine of patent exhaustion imposes a limit on the patent holder’s right to exclude. | Mar 31 21:50 |
| matey | Namely: “when a patentee sells an item, that product ‘is no longer within the limits of the [patent] monopoly’ and instead becomes the ‘private, individual property’ of the purchaser.’” | Mar 31 21:51 |
| matey | now i find most patent stuff really boring (of course its important) | Mar 31 21:51 |
| matey | but THIS is the kind of patent stuff i care about | Mar 31 21:51 |
| kingoffrance | " first sale means what you buy is yours" yeah, but it will just be argued you only bought a 'license' and not an xyz | Mar 31 21:52 |
| matey | but it will just be argued you only bought a 'license' <- no no no | Mar 31 21:52 |
| kingoffrance | explain :) | Mar 31 21:52 |
| matey | first sale is EXACTLY what says the very opposite of that | Mar 31 21:52 |
| matey | first sale is what says "the publisher can say fuck all about what you do with your copy (other than copy it) | Mar 31 21:53 |
| matey | if you want to take a book you bought and make it into a dress, they cant do shit | Mar 31 21:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | this extends to patents | Mar 31 21:53 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, but is software going to fall under that? | Mar 31 21:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lexmark scotus case irc | Mar 31 21:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | circa 2015 | Mar 31 21:53 |
| matey | this extends to patents <- yes tats what im saying | Mar 31 21:53 |
| matey | thats the one they mention, lexmark scotus | Mar 31 21:53 |
| matey | but is software going to fall under that? <- everything including software-- but MINUS drm | Mar 31 21:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | breyer wrote the decision | Mar 31 21:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | before fake 'liberals' pushed him out | Mar 31 21:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "coz trump, so drop dead" | Mar 31 21:54 |
| matey | if it has drm, first sale doesnt protect the user there | Mar 31 21:54 |
| matey | right to repair is basically about reestablishing first sale rights for people who have equipment | Mar 31 21:54 |
| matey | regardless of dmca | Mar 31 21:55 |
| matey | dmca provides for exceptions-- but they only last 3 years and they can only be granted by the librarian of congress (its fucking stupid) | Mar 31 21:55 |
| matey | (but better than nothing, like scraps from the table) | Mar 31 21:55 |
| matey | and the librarian of congress is so tight-arsed they could eat coal and shit out diamonds | Mar 31 21:56 |
| *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Mar 31 21:56 | |
| matey | plus why would you go to the librarian of congress to ask if you can repair your tractor | Mar 31 21:57 |
| techrights-news | Links 31/03/2022: LibreOffice 7.3.2, Deepin 20.5, and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/ubuntu-22-04-lts-beta/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/ubuntu-22-04-lts-beta/ | Mar 31 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/03/2022: LibreOffice 7.3.2, Deepin 20.5, and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta | Techrights | Mar 31 21:57 | |
| matey | thats how stupid and backwards dmca is | Mar 31 21:57 |
| techrights-news | Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Unlock Feature, Screenshot Pinning, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163206 | Mar 31 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Unlock Feature, Screenshot Pinning, and More | Tux Machines | Mar 31 21:57 | |
| matey | anyway securepairs looks like a decent business | Mar 31 21:58 |
| matey | /me misses freedomdefined | Mar 31 21:58 |
| matey | they probably use github of course | Mar 31 21:58 |
| matey | <matey> they probably use github of course <- big points, cant find anything | Mar 31 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | defined by microsoft | Mar 31 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | more lockin | Mar 31 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | actions | Mar 31 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | issues | Mar 31 21:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | defined | Mar 31 22:00 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> defined by microsoft <- who, freedomdefined? | Mar 31 22:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | "can't leave, i'll lose all maaaa staaaaars" | Mar 31 22:00 |
| matey | not clearlyredefined | Mar 31 22:00 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163207 | Mar 31 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:00 | |
| matey | freedomdefined sold mipsel laptops with gnewsense | Mar 31 22:00 |
| matey | oh no wait | Mar 31 22:01 |
| matey | freedomdefined is the free culture license people | Mar 31 22:01 |
| matey | what was the company called | Mar 31 22:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | clearly clearly | Mar 31 22:01 |
| matey | no no this was yaers before | Mar 31 22:01 |
| matey | freedomplus? freedomadded? | Mar 31 22:02 |
| matey | freedomincluded i think | Mar 31 22:02 |
| matey | ive done a search for freedomincluded and the exact model they used to sell is coming up | Mar 31 22:03 |
| matey | I've got a white Yeeloong 8101, a beautiful and completely (FSF-)Free 10.1"+ laptop with MIPS ISA and the best keyboard layout I've ever seen. It's plainly superb, but it has a couple drawbacks I should mention: **SUSPEND support* - that's a critical one | Mar 31 22:03 |
| matey | i know theyre defunct but im trying to find evidence they existed | Mar 31 22:04 |
| matey | www.reddit.com/domain/freedomincluded.com/ | Mar 31 22:04 |
| matey | i know, i dislike reddit at least as much as you do | Mar 31 22:04 |
| matey | tada http://web.archive.org/web/20100824154628/http://freedomincluded.com/ | Mar 31 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Freedom Included, Inc | Mar 31 22:05 | |
| matey | "Freedom Included currently sells one product, the Lemote Yeeloong with a custom gNewSense GNU/Linux operating system installation. " | Mar 31 22:05 |
| matey | "Copyleft boot firmware (bios)" | Mar 31 22:06 |
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| MinceR | https://abstrusegoose.com/608 | Mar 31 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abstrusegoose.com | Abstruse Goose | as surely as the sun rises... | Mar 31 22:07 | |
| matey | Replaceable Batteries Are Coming Back To Phones If The EU Gets Its Way | Hackaday | Mar 31 22:07 |
| matey | i have to be very excited about something to link to hackaday | Mar 31 22:08 |
| matey | theyre not awful, but | Mar 31 22:08 |
| MinceR | L( | Mar 31 22:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 31 22:08 |
| matey | https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://hack | Mar 31 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Redirect Notice | Mar 31 22:08 | |
| matey | not that one | Mar 31 22:08 |
| MinceR | try archive.is | Mar 31 22:08 |
| psydruid | Loongson was the first 64-bit processor I got to work with | Mar 31 22:08 |
| matey | yeah right | Mar 31 22:08 |
| matey | i havent been able to use archive.is in ages | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | i literally tried a day ago | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/replaceable-batteries-are-coming-back-to-phones-if-the-eu-gets-its-way/ | Mar 31 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Replaceable Batteries Are Coming Back To Phones If The EU Gets Its Way | Hackaday | Mar 31 22:09 | |
| MinceR | it doesn't work for you? | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | fucking captcha | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | no | Mar 31 22:09 |
| MinceR | ah | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | theyre stupid | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | good idea | Mar 31 22:09 |
| MinceR | archive.org then | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | yeah | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | theyre stupid too, but less so | Mar 31 22:09 |
| matey | by stupid i mean they fuck over legitimate users | Mar 31 22:10 |
| matey | and they bullshit the public about it | Mar 31 22:10 |
| matey | As part of the EU’s new battery regulations, all this is set to change. The text of these regulations is one that mandates that batteries be easily removable, replaceable, and recyclable in a wide range of devices. | Mar 31 22:10 |
| matey | i know whats going on here | Mar 31 22:11 |
| matey | the fsf gave awards to people who dont suck. | Mar 31 22:11 |
| matey | the eu did something that actually benefits consumers instead of having a dick sucking contest with industry | Mar 31 22:11 |
| matey | im in a fucking parallel universe arent i | Mar 31 22:11 |
| matey | thats funny, i wonder how i got here | Mar 31 22:12 |
| matey | maybe i took a wrong turn at the bank | Mar 31 22:12 |
| matey | im gonna go check out the lottery, biab | Mar 31 22:13 |
| matey | By January 1, 2024, these devices must be designed such that batteries can be safely removed and replaced using “basic and commonly available tools” and “without causing damage to the appliance or batteries.” | Mar 31 22:14 |
| matey | ah, so theyll change that back before 2024 | Mar 31 22:14 |
| matey | "just put it so far in the future that the eu will be defunct anyway" | Mar 31 22:14 |
| matey | "how about january 2024" | Mar 31 22:14 |
| matey | "yeah it should about done by then" | Mar 31 22:15 |
| matey | still a great regulation. like the one about "no lead paint in baby formula" which at least 250 countries follow pretty well | Mar 31 22:16 |
| matey | notice how they always call it "baby" formula. to distinguish it from formula 1. | Mar 31 22:16 |
| matey | first comment is a fucking gem | Mar 31 22:18 |
| matey | "They could make up their minds and remove the regulations that forbid you shipping devices with replaceable batteries, which, I suspect, are one of the reasons everybody glues them in now." | Mar 31 22:18 |
| matey | kyle says "You can ship a device with removable batteries, so long as they are IN it." | Mar 31 22:18 |
| matey | "It’s hard to do much better chemically. Caesium and fluorine would make the best possible battery, but it’d combust instantly. I read several years ago that batteries might at best attain 5x their existing capacity as of that moment. So far we’re still well under 2x." | Mar 31 22:21 |
| matey | /me is suddenly inspired to order something from amazon after many years | Mar 31 22:22 |
| matey | "hello, jeff? yeah, could you make me something custom?" | Mar 31 22:22 |
| matey | and then stick your face in it | Mar 31 22:22 |
| bnchs | i fucking hate unremovable batteries | Mar 31 22:22 |
| matey | i have a cool thing i do with those | Mar 31 22:23 |
| matey | i dont fucking buy anything like that | Mar 31 22:23 |
| matey | the closest i got to it was a super thin plastic laptop | Mar 31 22:23 |
| matey | and i didnt notice until i got it home | Mar 31 22:23 |
| *bnchs has quit (connection closed) | Mar 31 22:23 | |
| matey | and i removed a few ordinary screws (small phillips ones) | Mar 31 22:23 |
| matey | and there was the battery | Mar 31 22:23 |
| matey | so MOSTLY removable and replacable, but a bit stupid | Mar 31 22:24 |
| matey | did have to remove the entire bottom panel, but it was plastic anyway | Mar 31 22:24 |
| matey | it was a neat inexpensive laptop with touchscreen, worked with my own distro | Mar 31 22:24 |
| matey | so i thought yay! now i can use a touchscreen on a real computer with a real os | Mar 31 22:24 |
| matey | but just like every other touchscreen ever: did i? | Mar 31 22:25 |
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| matey | was it actually useful to have that feature? | Mar 31 22:25 |
| matey | yeah. a couple of times. | Mar 31 22:25 |
| matey | the mouse was better | Mar 31 22:25 |
| bnchs | matey: the problem is | Mar 31 22:25 |
| bnchs | they justify the unremovable battery by saying its supposed to be "waterproof" | Mar 31 22:25 |
| matey | heh | Mar 31 22:26 |
| bnchs | even though the water can go through small cracks of the phone screen | Mar 31 22:26 |
| matey | strap it to their chest and have them take a bath with it | Mar 31 22:26 |
| bnchs | and ruin it anyway | Mar 31 22:26 |
| matey | "you wont mind, its waterproof right?" | Mar 31 22:26 |
| bnchs | i dont care if its waterproof | Mar 31 22:26 |
| matey | "i um, uh-heh" | Mar 31 22:26 |
| bnchs | rarely anyone brings their phone underwater | Mar 31 22:27 |
| matey | yeah if i want waterproof ill stick it in a bag | Mar 31 22:27 |
| bnchs | and if they do | Mar 31 22:27 |
| bnchs | they put it in a bag | Mar 31 22:27 |
| matey | rarely anyone brings their phone underwater <- the sound quality is terrible | Mar 31 22:27 |
| matey | "hebbbloobbllobbloo?" | Mar 31 22:27 |
| bnchs | i would pick removable battery instead of waterproof | Mar 31 22:27 |
| bnchs | but no they dont want that | Mar 31 22:28 |
| matey | "hobbloobbllob blon, im immblla wabbler" | Mar 31 22:28 |
| bnchs | it would make their spyware easy to shutdown | Mar 31 22:28 |
| matey | <bnchs> i would pick removable battery instead of waterproof <- that makes you the smart consumer | Mar 31 22:28 |
| bnchs | matey: ok i faced problems with phones with unremovable batteries | Mar 31 22:28 |
| bnchs | one phone had a dead flash but it was still on the shit qualcomm mode | Mar 31 22:29 |
| matey | they make waterproof kits for phones with removable batteries | Mar 31 22:29 |
| bnchs | i couldnt remove the battery because it was unremovable | Mar 31 22:29 |
| matey | they dont make removable battery kits for phones without them | Mar 31 22:29 |
| bnchs | so i had to wait for it to DIE | Mar 31 22:29 |
| bnchs | which was long | Mar 31 22:29 |
| bnchs | thats why i hate unremovable batteries | Mar 31 22:29 |
| matey | when i got a galaxy, i started etching a back panel into it so i could get the battery out | Mar 31 22:30 |
| matey | i had a plan to install elastics to keep it in place | Mar 31 22:30 |
| bnchs | its just an another obstacle for repairing | Mar 31 22:30 |
| bnchs | and they know it | Mar 31 22:30 |
| bnchs | thats why they stick unremovable batteries | Mar 31 22:30 |
| matey | i never etched threw it completely, because before i could even care, the telco installed spyware and i cancelled my account and told them to fuck themselves | Mar 31 22:31 |
| bnchs | matey: they put unremovable batteries so that their spyware runs longer | Mar 31 22:31 |
| matey | no question | Mar 31 22:31 |
| matey | theyre a bunch of shits | Mar 31 22:31 |
| bnchs | and to ruin 3rd party repairiability | Mar 31 22:31 |
| matey | i know | Mar 31 22:31 |
| bnchs | i find it easy to remove the battery when the OS hangs | Mar 31 22:33 |
| matey | yes | Mar 31 22:33 |
| matey | i still do this | Mar 31 22:33 |
| bnchs | in a unremovable battery phone, you have to wait for it to die | Mar 31 22:33 |
| bnchs | which can be LOOOOOOONG | Mar 31 22:33 |
| matey | like longcat | Mar 31 22:33 |
| bnchs | its better to bash the phone until it dies | Mar 31 22:33 |
| bnchs | it worked for a phone | Mar 31 22:33 |
| bnchs | and restarted good | Mar 31 22:33 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032745 | Mar 31 22:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | TheSocialProxy Review: Taking Social Media Management to the Next Level - Make Tech Easier | Mar 31 22:52 | |
| techrights-news | Maybe by next year 90% or more of the Web will be Webspam | Mar 31 22:52 |
| techrights-news | Tumbleweed updates sudo, systemd, ibus • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163208 | Mar 31 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tumbleweed updates sudo, systemd, ibus | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:52 | |
| techrights-news | Kate ate KWrite • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163209 | Mar 31 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kate ate KWrite | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:52 | |
| techrights-news | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 166 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163210 | Mar 31 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 166 released | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:53 | |
| activelow | MSP430 type systems can operate with a button cell type battery in the milliwatts range | Mar 31 22:53 |
| techrights-news | SerenityOS: A remarkable achievement for a small project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163211 | Mar 31 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SerenityOS: A remarkable achievement for a small project | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:53 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163212 | Mar 31 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:53 | |
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| activelow | the some low-badnwidth signal levels are that low, they're barely noticable above noise floor on a digital scope, if at all | Mar 31 22:53 |
| matey | <activelow> MSP430 type systems can operate with a button cell type battery in the milliwatts range <- but is it removable? | Mar 31 22:57 |
| activelow | matey: with this type of embedded system, yes. iirc, those systems got a radio stack too: KNX | Mar 31 22:59 |
| techrights-news | OpenStack Yoga on Ubuntu LTS delivers highly performant infrastructure for telcos and researchers with SmartNICs and DPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163193#comment-33250 | Mar 31 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | High performance open infrastructure comes to Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:59 | |
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| techrights-news | The Union or Elected Leadership of the EPO’s Staff Calls the Shots Now | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-workers-in-control-now/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-workers-in-control-now/ | Mar 31 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Union or Elected Leadership of the EPO’s Staff Calls the Shots Now | Techrights | Mar 31 23:14 | |
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| bnchs | /history #techrights 1h | Mar 31 23:33 |
| bnchs | god damn it | Mar 31 23:33 |
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| techrights-news | EPO staff is not as gullible as António Campinos needs the staff to be http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/joff-went-wild/ | Mar 31 23:54 |
| techrights-news | The failing EPO presidency — with Oliver Dreute as the so-called ‘Chief of Staff’ (they’ve rebranded the roles) — has demonstrably lost control (the numbers speak for themselves) and collective bargaining sets in http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-workers-in-control-now/ | Mar 31 23:54 |
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