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| techrights-news | Linux [sic] Foundation CTO has LEFT https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-top-global-160000690.html?guccounter=1 | Mar 30 00:00 |
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| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: yahoo.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-top-global-160000690.html?guccounter=1 | Mar 30 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Linux Foundation Announces Top Global Executive Speakers for Open Networking & Edge Executive Forum, April 12-14, and New CTO Appointment | Mar 30 00:00 | |
| *mib_7qt8hf (~ac3ac726@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 00:00 | |
| techrights-news | Linux [sic] Foundation CFO left the year the Linux [sic] Foundation operated at a loss despite the sellouts | Mar 30 00:00 |
| bnchs | why the sic's | Mar 30 00:01 |
| *mib_7qt8hf has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) | Mar 30 00:01 | |
| bnchs | is it called lUNIX | Mar 30 00:01 |
| bnchs | lunix | Mar 30 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't even use unix | Mar 30 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but fake unixea and windows | Mar 30 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *unixes | Mar 30 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they reject Linux | Mar 30 00:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't by the product they are called after | Mar 30 00:02 |
| *mib_7qt8hf (~ac3ac726@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 00:02 | |
| matey | /me wonders who "they" refers to, and the rest of it for that matter | Mar 30 00:03 |
| techrights-news | No such thing is possible. Tell me all about the round cube... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/ | Mar 30 00:03 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/ | Mar 30 00:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Democrats propose pro-privacy digital dollar โข The Register | Mar 30 00:03 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | they/them/lunix foundationb | Mar 30 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hypocrites | Mar 30 00:03 |
| matey | oh them | Mar 30 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | who work for the pentagon | Mar 30 00:03 |
| matey | idiots yes | Mar 30 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but tell me about ethics | Mar 30 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | i wonder what the backstory is, | Mar 30 00:04 |
| matey | the macos foundation | Mar 30 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | murdock was first LF CTO | Mar 30 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's fine | Mar 30 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | after that it was people from IBM, SUSE (Rex) etc. | Mar 30 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | latest was IBM | Mar 30 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | Dolan | Mar 30 00:04 |
| bnchs | what is this horrible chat | Mar 30 00:05 |
| bnchs | microsoft is good you know | Mar 30 00:05 |
| matey | for me to poop on | Mar 30 00:05 |
| bnchs | ok thats why satya is the CEO | Mar 30 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, or was it chris? | Mar 30 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "No such thing is possible. Tell me all about the round cube... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/" | Mar 30 00:06 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/" | Mar 30 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Cleveland, Ohio, United States ยท SVP and GM of Projects ยท The Linux Foundation" | Mar 30 00:06 |
| bnchs | ok you know what | Mar 30 00:06 |
| bnchs | this linux foundation shit | Mar 30 00:06 |
| bnchs | is starting to be a joke | Mar 30 00:06 |
| bnchs | its like more corporate | Mar 30 00:06 |
| bnchs | than something | Mar 30 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Shubhra Kar | Mar 30 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://linuxfoundation.org/people/#member-3383-info | Mar 30 00:07 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/people/#member-3383-info | Mar 30 00:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Leadership - Linux Foundation | Mar 30 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | "He comes to the Linux Foundation from Joyent/Samsung, where as VP of Products, he ran multiple product lines โ primarily services like Multi-Cloud Kubernetes, Machine Learning, Serverless and Monitoring/Analytics/Logging/Tracing. " | Mar 30 00:07 |
| schestowitz | "Previous to Samsung, Shubhra served as VP of Product and Marketing at startups like InfluxData (#1 Time Series platform in the world) and StrongLoop (acquired by IBM) and is also the current Marketing Chair of the Node.js Foundation. He has also held management and technical leadership positions at CA Technologies and Infosys (Indiaโs first startup to bluechip success story)." | Mar 30 00:07 |
| schestowitz | ah, OK, chris is at cncf | Mar 30 00:08 |
| schestowitz | CTO | Mar 30 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | "its like more corporate" well, that was "open source" they got what they wanted | Mar 30 00:09 |
| matey | ^ ^ ^ | Mar 30 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | i dont say that to beat a dead horse, just because its all lumped together now, detractors will say this is why "open source" doesnt work | Mar 30 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | without any trace of irony | Mar 30 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | set up strawman, knock it down | Mar 30 00:09 |
| schestowitz | SVP and Chief Marketing Officer is quite new | Mar 30 00:10 |
| matey | whats the straw man? | Mar 30 00:10 |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 00:10 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ โโโโ โโ โโโโ โโ โ โ โ โ โโโโโโโโ โ โ โ โโโ โโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 38.23 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 33.10โ swarm size (avg): 274.10 โฒ | Mar 30 00:10 |
| schestowitz | his backgrouns seems benign | Mar 30 00:10 |
| kingoffrance | that open source was "grass roots" free software doesnt exist except as part of "open source" "FOSS" | Mar 30 00:10 |
| matey | heh | Mar 30 00:11 |
| kingoffrance | and if you try to break up ms and linux and open source and free software, you are a homewrecker i guess lol | Mar 30 00:11 |
| schestowitz | "Austin, Texas, United States ยท CTO and GM - Products & IT, Founder - LFX.dev ยท The Linux Foundation" | Mar 30 00:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/shubhrakar?lang=en-GB | Mar 30 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/shubhrakar?lang=en-GB ) | Mar 30 00:12 | |
| matey | kingoffrance: open source split off from free software and then spent 20 years saying the former wasnt a "team player" | Mar 30 00:12 |
| schestowitz | last "tweet" in january | Mar 30 00:12 |
| matey | because it had the nerve to not automatically agree with the people that split off from them! | Mar 30 00:12 |
| kingoffrance | ^ | Mar 30 00:12 |
| kingoffrance | "A shotgun wedding is a wedding which is arranged in order to avoid embarrassment due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy" | Mar 30 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I take it back. There is one big pile of shit in Chicago. They call it the mayor. | Mar 30 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I had nothing to do with Mayor 50% less jobs and $6 a gallon gas, btw. | Mar 30 00:13 |
| matey | due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy <- this really does sound like reproduction as explained by a lawyer | Mar 30 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | 500% MOAR crime. | Mar 30 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | i was going for first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes linux foundation in a baby carriage | Mar 30 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy <- this really does sound like reproduction as explained by a lawyer | Mar 30 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Most heterosexuals have unwanted pregnancies. | Mar 30 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | They don't take precautions because 9 months is basically forever. | Mar 30 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | So they get kids they didn't even want, over and over. | Mar 30 00:14 |
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| matey | homosexuals have extremely few unwanted pregnancies | Mar 30 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Because nobody knows where they come from anyway. | Mar 30 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Something about the heterosexual brain is so perverse that it forgets what got them in that mess the last time. | Mar 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> homosexuals have extremely few unwanted pregnancies | Mar 30 00:15 |
| matey | i think thats an overly broad statement tbh | Mar 30 00:15 |
| kingoffrance | i only seen matey recently, so i emphasize i was always a bsd user, never cared for "free software" as such, but i think older ppl at least recognized the shift | Mar 30 00:15 |
| schestowitz | https://theorg.com/org/the-linux-foundation/org-chart/shubhra-kar | Mar 30 00:15 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theorg.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theorg.com/org/the-linux-foundation/org-chart/shubhra-kar | Mar 30 00:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theorg.com | Shubhra Kar - Chief Technology Officer & GM, Products at The Linux Foundation | The Org | Mar 30 00:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I get to watch everyone else step on the rakes. | Mar 30 00:15 |
| schestowitz | I cannot find when he joined | Mar 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's fun. | Mar 30 00:15 |
| kingoffrance | older ppl whatever "side" they were on | Mar 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | America has a lot of problems and immigrants aren't really one of them, unless you count the descendants of the ones who their neighbors didn't like very much so they clunked them over the head and sold them a couple hundred years ago to get rid of the problems in their village. | Mar 30 00:17 |
| schestowitz | https://www.cbinsights.com/investor/the-linux-foundation | Mar 30 00:17 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: cbinsights.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cbinsights.com/investor/the-linux-foundation | Mar 30 00:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbinsights.com | The Linux Foundation Portfolio Investments, The Linux Foundation Funds, The Linux Foundation Exits | Mar 30 00:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Shubhra Kar | Mar 30 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Joyent, InfluxData, CA Technologies, Infosys Technologies, and Tata Communications | Mar 30 00:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 00:18 |
| schestowitz | "Ranny Haiby as CTO of networking, edge & access technologies." | Mar 30 00:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe CTO fore that sub-group | Mar 30 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | "You mean white people came on a ship and they actually want the ones that are raping and killing other villagers here, and they'll pay us?". | Mar 30 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | Now to be sure, white people are to blame for that. | Mar 30 00:18 |
| matey | chicago city app: "mr. farmer, please stop reporting 'more blacks' on the chicago city app, we do not consider this a legitimate use of the service" | Mar 30 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Mar 30 00:19 |
| matey | "mr garrison every year you suggest we get rid of all the mexicans and every year we tell you 'no'" | Mar 30 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | "You obviously haven't been on the 67 bus recently, where one attacked the driver with a frozen chicken and we had to wait for the ambulance and the police." | Mar 30 00:20 |
| matey | frozen chicken? ambulance? | Mar 30 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Yes. | Mar 30 00:20 |
| matey | did they have a permit? | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/man-charged-after-beating-cta-driver-passenger-with-bag-of-frozen-chicken/ | Mar 30 00:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Man charged after beating CTA driver, passenger with bag of frozen chicken | WGN-TV | Mar 30 00:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Chicago Man has been busy, you know. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| matey | well, this is why they ban frozen chicken in the uk | Mar 30 00:21 |
| matey | too many people were getting mugged | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | CHICAGO โ Chicago police say a 27-year-old man attacked a CTA bus driver and a passenger with a bag of frozen chicken. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Caleb Russell boarded the bus last Wednesday afternoon and tried to flirt with a woman. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | When she refused his advances, he hit her with the frozen chicken. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | When the CTA driver came to her rescue, he was kicked and beaten with the chicken. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | His face was damaged so badly, he needed gum surgery. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Russell is charged with battery and aggravated battery. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Court records show, Russell was sentenced to two years in prison in 2014 for making a bomb threat on a CTA bus. | Mar 30 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Aggravated battery /USE DDLY WEAPON | Mar 30 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | (The chicken.) | Mar 30 00:22 |
| matey | could veganism be the answer? | Mar 30 00:22 |
| techrights-news | Arduino goes pro with Linux and a big chip on its latest board http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162945#comment-33231 | Mar 30 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Portenta X8 is the first Linux Arduino board | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Chicago Man attacks CTA driver, passenger, with bag of Beyond Chicken? | Mar 30 00:23 |
| matey | oof, thats even worse | Mar 30 00:23 |
| matey | because apart from the force trauma he could be allergic to gluten | Mar 30 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | They say it mostly tastes like chicken. | Mar 30 00:24 |
| techrights-news | "base power of 150 watts"???? Insane. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/intel_corei9_12900ks/ | Mar 30 00:24 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/intel_corei9_12900ks/ | Mar 30 00:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Intel counters AMDโs big-cache PC chip with 5.5GHz rival โข The Register | Mar 30 00:24 | |
| matey | at this point it would probably be easier to just have a list of things that DONT taste mostly like chicken | Mar 30 00:25 |
| matey | starting with jumpmeat | Mar 30 00:25 |
| psydruid | x86 hardware at this point is totally insane | Mar 30 00:26 |
| psydruid | it's only for "gamers" | Mar 30 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | make more nuclear power plants | Mar 30 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | for shitcoin and x86 | Mar 30 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for people who drive 10 mile for a latte and toast | Mar 30 00:26 |
| matey | the latte i can understand because who has a really good steamer | Mar 30 00:27 |
| psydruid | people who buy that hardware should feel the wrath of the frozen chicken | Mar 30 00:27 |
| matey | but who needs a barista to make them toast? | Mar 30 00:27 |
| matey | (plus avacado) | Mar 30 00:27 |
| matey | <psydruid> people who buy that hardware should feel the wrath of the frozen chicken <- or beyond chicken | Mar 30 00:28 |
| matey | (if theyre vegan) | Mar 30 00:28 |
| psydruid | the coconut touch | Mar 30 00:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | tyson chicken | Mar 30 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | in your face | Mar 30 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | bites your ear off, too | Mar 30 00:29 |
| matey | in soviet russian tyson chicken eats your children | Mar 30 00:29 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NB_CB1p5Q4 | Mar 30 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7NB_CB1p5Q4 | Mar 30 00:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | I Will Eat Your Children - Invidious | Mar 30 00:30 | |
| matey | tyson vs. van gogh | Mar 30 00:30 |
| matey | this is going to be too easy | Mar 30 00:31 |
| kingoffrance | i'll allow it -- mills lane | Mar 30 00:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: he bit off more tha he could chew | Mar 30 00:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | choo choo | Mar 30 00:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | i had 'earios' in my first web site | Mar 30 00:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1997/8 | Mar 30 00:31 |
| matey | when i first read the story i thought it was earsay | Mar 30 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | ear esr! | Mar 30 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | ear ear | Mar 30 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | another tyson, more recent: | Mar 30 00:33 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8gNTVn3Mp0 | Mar 30 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H8gNTVn3Mp0 | Mar 30 00:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Fury Explains Why He Licked Wilder's Blood (YouTube Flagged This Video) - Invidious | Mar 30 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrOo6W-nWT4 | Mar 30 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KrOo6W-nWT4 | Mar 30 00:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Tyson Fury Licked Deontay Wilder ๐คฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ #TysonFury #DeontayWilder #WilderFury2 - Invidious | Mar 30 00:34 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163126 | Mar 30 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:42 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001277/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-new-options | Mar 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11 - The Verge | Mar 30 00:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft seems to have given up trying to swat down all of the EdgeDeflector clones. | Mar 30 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Easier"? | Mar 30 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "possible"? | Mar 30 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | This Gates/Microsoft spin machine downplays what happened | Mar 30 00:44 |
| techrights-news | Once again 'FOSS'life Team promotes proprietary software, vendor lockin, and worse things for Microsoft's criminals. This isn't FOSS. It's spitting on FOSS and on dignity. https://www.fosslife.org/load-testing-github-actions | Mar 30 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Load Testing with GitHub Actions | Mar 30 00:47 | |
| *sepsinn has quit (Quit: leaving) | Mar 30 00:50 | |
| techrights-news | Notice how they never arrest CEOs for the same; they do not even prosecute them (e.g. Intel CEO, Microsoft executives...) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/twilio_insider_trading/ | Mar 30 00:53 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/twilio_insider_trading/ | Mar 30 00:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Twilio developer trio charged with insider trading โข The Register | Mar 30 00:53 | |
| techrights-news | GNU Poke Release and Video โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163127 | Mar 30 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Poke Release and Video | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:54 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-human-waste-feces-homeless-Reddit-13044317.php | Mar 30 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | '20 pounds of human waste' dropped on San Francisco street corner | Mar 30 00:58 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/18/san-francisco-poop-problem-inequality-homelessness | Mar 30 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Why is San Francisco ... covered in human feces? | Nathan Robinson | The Guardian | Mar 30 00:58 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/san-francisco-s-sidewalk-poop-crisis-explained | Mar 30 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Mar 30 00:58 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homelessness-poop-graffiti-2018-11 | Mar 30 00:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homelessness-poop-graffiti-2018-11 | Mar 30 00:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | San Francisco Has Poop Graffiti on Streets and Sidewalks | Mar 30 00:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโ โ โโโโ โโโโโ โโโ โ โโโโโโ โ โ avg(k/sec) 38.35 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 58.35โ swarm size (avg): 234.68 โฒ | Mar 30 00:59 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU_SPdPVr88 | Mar 30 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wU_SPdPVr88 | Mar 30 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Triumph The Insult Comic Dog Poops On Voters - Invidious | Mar 30 00:59 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVmu6uHEDHI | Mar 30 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wVmu6uHEDHI | Mar 30 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Aliens 1986: The Best Shootout Scene 4K - Invidious | Mar 30 00:59 | |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, ^ | Mar 30 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 30 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | "Difficult Street People" | Mar 30 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like a good name for a band, doesn't it? | Mar 30 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So Mandy was reading a site that said, "I lost a testicle in an accident. Does that make me weird?". I said, "Well, the other one will compensate for it. Funny how nature prioritizes for backups, isn't it? You lose one heart, you die. You lose one testical, you can still reproduce.". | Mar 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | *testicle | Mar 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | But I mean, like, why two of THAT? | Mar 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | If one works, why two? | Mar 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Why not a binary circulatory system? | Mar 30 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-a-binary-circulatory-system-over-an-unary-circulatory-system | Mar 30 01:06 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: quora.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-a-binary-circulatory-system-over-an-unary-circulatory-system | Mar 30 01:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What are the advantages and disadvantages of a binary circulatory system over an unary circulatory system? - Quora | Mar 30 01:06 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess this works though. | Mar 30 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | As for The Doctor, the second heart doesn't make much sense. Time Lords regenerate instead of dying. | Mar 30 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, enough of this shit | Mar 30 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | What's the point in limping around with half your circulatory function when you can just regenerate? | Mar 30 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | back to tech | Mar 30 01:07 |
| techrights-news | Fixes? It's a bug. Remove the bug. Remove Windows. https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fixes-for-slow-context-menu-on-windows-11/ | Mar 30 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fixes-for-slow-context-menu-on-windows-11/ ) | Mar 30 01:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The shitstorm did, in fact, go to the mayor's office. Perhaps they should call in the National Guard for the War on Shit. | Mar 30 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I'll stop now. | Mar 30 01:09 |
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| techrights-news | Gulag resumes shoveling stuff into its 'Privacy Sandbox' - El Reg โ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/google_privacy_sandbox/ ไท Source: theregister | Mar 30 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google resumes shoveling stuff into its 'Privacy Sandbox' โข The Register | Mar 30 01:11 | |
| techrights-news | Take the next step in "living liberation": watch the LibrePlanet 2022 videos today! โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163128 | Mar 30 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Take the next step in "living liberation": watch the LibrePlanet 2022 videos today! | Tux Machines | Mar 30 01:11 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.incredibleegg.org/recipes/cooking-lessons/can-i-freeze-eggs | Mar 30 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.incredibleegg.org | Can You Freeze Eggs? | Incredible Egg | Mar 30 01:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I might beat and freeze some eggs. | Mar 30 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | With all of the Bidenflation going on, couldn't hurt.... | Mar 30 01:12 |
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| activelow | DaemonFC> Okay, I'll stop now. | Mar 30 01:43 |
| activelow | obviously not | Mar 30 01:43 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: what are you doing, other than injecting your wisdom into here? | Mar 30 01:44 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/1089490958/free-turbotax-ftc-intuit | Mar 30 01:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | FTC accuses Intuit of deceptively advertising TurboTax as free : NPR | Mar 30 01:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/well/live/gaslighting-doctors-patients-health.html | Mar 30 04:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | What Is โMedical Gaslightingโ and How Can You Elevate Health Care - The New York Times | Mar 30 04:01 | |
| DaemonFC | BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT | Mar 30 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | I had a doctor completely ignore my blood pressure. Figured I'd save money and just go down to the Health Department. You get what you pay for. Plus, with all of the liberal indoctrination going on..... | Mar 30 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | I mean to get a job with the state government you basically have to be a Democrat Party sycophant. | Mar 30 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen a single person working for the county who isn't. | Mar 30 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | "Mrs. Rishe, who lives in Los Angeles, found a highly recommended cardiologist in the Midwest and flew there to see him. He immediately dismissed her symptoms, she said. โPeople who have these heart conditions arenโt this sick,โ she remembers him saying. He prescribed a new heart medication, told her to exercise and sent her home. | Mar 30 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Unsatisfied with her care, Mrs. Rishe saw yet another doctor, who ordered extensive tests that found her arteries were spasming from a lack of oxygen. โI was basically having mini-heart attacks, whenever I was having chest pain,โ she said. Two months later, she had open-heart surgery to correct the problem, which she later learned may have saved her life." | Mar 30 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously everyone who has ever encountered a stupid doctor with a degree on the wall is a victim of "racism", like my mother, who is white, and had a doctor laugh at her skin cancer, and then she got a second opinion and they started treatment right away. | Mar 30 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | That was in 1986 and the only reason she's alive today is because she didn't stop with the doctor that refused to treat her and said that it was a benign growth. | Mar 30 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, there's a lot of doctors out there who really shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine. Just because you found one doesn't mean they're racist, or homophobic, or whatever. | Mar 30 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | And just think about how if you were lucky to survive them, how many patients are not smart enough to go somewhere else, who that doctor ultimately kills, while making the payments on his Lexus. | Mar 30 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | When I wanted to get on PrEP medication in Chicago, I found a doctor, who refused to treat me. Instead of filing a lawsuit, I just didn't go back to that doctor again. His name is John Nicholas. | Mar 30 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | Err, Nicolas... | Mar 30 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/faculty-profiles/az/profile.html?xid=12420 | Mar 30 04:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.feinberg.northwestern.edu | John D Nicolas : Faculty Profile: Faculty Profiles: Feinberg School of Medicine: Northwestern University | Mar 30 04:09 | |
| DaemonFC | That's right, in CHICAGO, you have to go to a clinic where the doctors actually do their job and treat the patient. There's plenty of homophobic doctors in Chicago. | Mar 30 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | But you'll never prove it even if it is against the law, so don't bother. | Mar 30 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | "Studies have shown that compared with men, women face longer waits to be diagnosed with cancer and heart disease, are treated less aggressively for traumatic brain injury, and are less likely to be offered pain medications." | Mar 30 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | This is actually not true at all. | Mar 30 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | Men are more likely than women to be undiagnosed and untreated for everything in the first place because they're less likely to be insured, go to the doctor, and complain about things loudly enough to be taken seriously and treated. | Mar 30 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | "People of color often receive poorer quality care, too." | Mar 30 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | That is probably true, but it's not what it looks like. Black people are less likely to be insured, but the government lowered the uninsured rate by giving them Medicaid, which pays like nothing. One doctor told me she couldn't accept Medicaid because it doesn't even pay enough to cover the billing department submitting a claim. The state of California pays $4 for a well child visit. | Mar 30 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | And if you don't bill a Medicaid patient to Medicaid, you can be charged with fraud, so there's not only nowhere to use it, but it locks you out of charity care once you sign up. | Mar 30 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | The liberals managed to fuck this up too, even though it costs a fortune. (Second most expensive item on the California state budget after education is Medicaid.). | Mar 30 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | The ones in Illinois aren't far behind California. They want to spend $250 million a year on Medicaid for illegal immigrants, even though the program has utterly failed. | Mar 30 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | "For instance, Dr. Spencerโs research suggests that women are twice as likely as men to be diagnosed with a mental illness when their symptoms are consistent with heart disease." | Mar 30 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you go to the hospital and they say anything about having "psych" talk to you, leave. And if you can't leave, don't talk to them. | Mar 30 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | "Women may be misdiagnosed more often than men, in part, because scientists know far less about the female body than they do about the male body, even though โthere are biological differences that go down to the cellular level,โ said Chloe Bird, a senior sociologist at Pardee RAND Graduate School who studies womenโs health." | Mar 30 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Oh boy, don't tell our resident failed biologist that! | Mar 30 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Gender is all in your head. There's absolutely no biology involved. | Mar 30 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | "And โsee another doctor if you feel dismissed,โ Dr. McGregor said. You might even want to consider seeking out a woman physician or a provider with better cultural competence, who may better โunderstand your perspective and language.โ" | Mar 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | 100% agree with if your doctor is an idiot who ignores your very real symptoms of disease (hypertension is not difficult to diagnose), leave. | Mar 30 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | But the second part is just sexism. | Mar 30 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | In my experience, there's about as many incompetent female doctors as there are incompetent male doctors. So it's not really like choosing a doctor based on their gender is going to help you much. It's all luck of the draw. | Mar 30 04:24 |
| mjg59_ | "failed biologist"? | Mar 30 04:28 |
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| DaemonFC | If someone were to say that gender is purely a state of mind. | Mar 30 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | Gender dysphoria is, of course. | Mar 30 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, I have an idea for San Francisco. They can start distributing Airtags for the shit, and then the city can use Find My Shit to find the shit. | Mar 30 04:51 |
| MinceR | "have you noticed that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac | Mar 30 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac | Mar 30 04:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | George Carlin Talks About "Stuff" - Invidious | Mar 30 04:55 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, San Francisco is number one in America in piles of shit per capita. | Mar 30 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | New York City was second, with 160 times fewer shit on the sidewalk complaints per capita. | Mar 30 04:58 |
| MinceR | is this metric based solely on complaints? | Mar 30 04:58 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Mar 30 04:59 |
| MinceR | that could skew things | Mar 30 04:59 |
| MinceR | maybe people somewhere are more used to shit on the sidewalk and/or don't mind it as much | Mar 30 04:59 |
| MinceR | or they think complaining won't help | Mar 30 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's been going on for years in San Francisco. | Mar 30 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | In 2019, there were 35% more complaints about human shit on the sidewalk than in 2018 according to the city's app. | Mar 30 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, more people could be installing the app specifically to complain about a volume of shit that is staying roughly the same. | Mar 30 05:01 |
| MinceR | also, do they report number of turds, volume of shit, mass of shit or some other metric? | Mar 30 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Density, size, whether it tested positive for COVID-19.....? | Mar 30 05:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 05:03 |
| MinceR | if only count is reported, high amounts could coalesce into a smaller number of turds | Mar 30 05:04 |
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| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Your accusation that I'm a failed biologist is because you (someone who has no qualifications in biology) disagree with me (someone who has a PhD in biology)? | Mar 30 05:12 |
| mjg59_ | Not trying to appeal to authority by asserting that this means you're wrong, just trying to understand what your actual argument is | Mar 30 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | It seems people with a degree are deliberately lying about what gender and sex are for political brownie points to me. | Mar 30 05:14 |
| MinceR | ๐ฟ | Mar 30 05:23 |
| activelow | anyway, digging, Aboriginal Linux is dead too: | Mar 30 05:26 |
| activelow | http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html | Mar 30 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. | Mar 30 05:26 | |
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| activelow | seems to have been both, which coincides with the timeline of GCC switching to c++ as one technical issue, besides GPLv3, and a load of other problems | Mar 30 05:27 |
| activelow | gcc-4.7 was year 2013, three years later another crucial project vanished | Mar 30 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | GCC has been falling apart for years. | Mar 30 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | When your debugger crashes and needs debuggering. | Mar 30 05:28 |
| activelow | binutils too, it seems, according to the email | Mar 30 05:29 |
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| activelow | i am not too optimistic yet, about TinyCC; still was hunting some minor bugs with the gcc-4.7 toolchain, and need some more days or a week or two for some other taks | Mar 30 05:30 |
| activelow | tasks | Mar 30 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody even talks about Kubuntu anymore. | Mar 30 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well, that's a shame. | Mar 30 05:30 |
| activelow | irelevant, it's the compiler/toolchain with unresolved issues | Mar 30 05:30 |
| activelow | which affects almost _all_ projects, including *BSD, all linux distros, everything | Mar 30 05:31 |
| activelow | "been playing a little with LLVM, maybe I should do more of that,but it's a giant hairball nightmare written in C++"... well gcc too is nowadays | Mar 30 05:32 |
| activelow | anyway, other than TinyCC (and mostly unmaintained PCC from SCO) there is little to nothing remaining, as a reliable toolchain to rely upon, long-term | Mar 30 05:33 |
| activelow | and, with C11 creeping into, the situation will become worse | Mar 30 05:33 |
| activelow | GPL3 too is a problem, not for me, which is the requirements for dual-licensing often with it; not sure what FSF had been thinking | Mar 30 05:35 |
| activelow | because, how should GPL3 prevent tivoization, assuming if it is the copyright-holders which may enforce GPL, and if those had no interest in enforcement then GPLv3 is moot anyway | Mar 30 05:35 |
| activelow | however, the dual licensing is annoying, none of my concerns; | Mar 30 05:36 |
| activelow | wake me up when TinyCC becomes a GNU project, with support from FSF, and kernel maintenance for it | Mar 30 05:40 |
| activelow | soon i'll iteratively swap GCC with TinyCC with the base-system package set here, knowing already what fails and requires hacks (musl, gcc, kernel) | Mar 30 05:41 |
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| activelow | there is another 700+ packages to verify, and see if it is somewhat stable, for aarch32 and aarch64 | Mar 30 05:41 |
| activelow | which is the c-only profile | Mar 30 05:42 |
| activelow | would be cool, if binutils too can be kicked out, since TinyCC got a linker, ar, as | Mar 30 05:42 |
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| DaemonFC | I suppose it's lost on the idiots running Germany that in their mad rush to ruin the economy of the former East Germany that they tore down perfectly usable nuclear power plants. | Mar 30 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | And that they, in fact, set up this entire energy crisis with the Russian gas. | Mar 30 06:00 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: why not stay on topic? | Mar 30 06:01 |
| activelow | http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html | Mar 30 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. | Mar 30 06:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Landley isn't really my favorite person. | Mar 30 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | He takes cash to assist GPL violators. | Mar 30 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I see my upstairs neighbors are cooking something. The fire alarm is going off. | Mar 30 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | That means it's done. | Mar 30 06:03 |
| activelow | again steering towards off-topic, Landley support GPL2 | Mar 30 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | He helps companies like Sony dodge the consequences of GPL violation with that Toybox thing. | Mar 30 06:04 |
| activelow | since FSF prominence presence here, i would be curious, about both technical issues escalating since 2013, and the political strategy | Mar 30 06:04 |
| activelow | http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html | Mar 30 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | Sony ought to be sued for XCP again if the lawsuit against Vizio succeeds. | Mar 30 06:04 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: it is the authors of a software to enforce GPL, and if FSF isn't the author or mandated to enforce there isn't any violation to begin with | Mar 30 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | They included source code under the LGPL in it, in violation of that license. | Mar 30 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | That's not necessarily what US law says. | Mar 30 06:05 |
| activelow | Author's rights are _international_ law | Mar 30 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Vizio is being sued in a court in California. | Mar 30 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's no such thing as international law. | Mar 30 06:05 |
| activelow | of cause there is, Berne Convention, authors' rights | Mar 30 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | There are various agreements, but United States law is supreme and controlling here. | Mar 30 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | The US Supreme Court has said as much. | Mar 30 06:06 |
| activelow | anyway, that's again steering towards off-topic | Mar 30 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | International agreements that violate the US Constitution or US laws are therefore null and void as far as their bearing on domestic law. | Mar 30 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | Congress can also repeal treaties if it wants to, but those treaties usually have some mechanism for the president to do it by himself. | Mar 30 06:07 |
| activelow | GPL2 is a license, not law, and of authors chose not to enforce it, their own software (not any FSF had written), then there is no violation of law | Mar 30 06:07 |
| activelow | *and if | Mar 30 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | But in no way, shape, or form does any alleged "international law" control an author's copyright in the US if their claim violates US law. | Mar 30 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's only valid insofar as their rights under US law are concerned. | Mar 30 06:08 |
| activelow | it is author's rights, including a license an author may or may not chose for software written himself, or chose to enforce or not | Mar 30 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Germany has a somewhat "unique" perspective on copyright law. It's cute, but it also doesn't apply to me. | Mar 30 06:09 |
| activelow | if kernel developers choose GPL2, FSF has that much authority over this decision: 0, zero, none, nil | Mar 30 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | They don't have any particular rights that a US person wouldn't have. | Mar 30 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | Right, but users can sue a GPL violator. | Mar 30 06:10 |
| activelow | and if kernel developers chose not to enforce GPL2 with tivoized products, then that's the decision of the authors of the software, not the FSF | Mar 30 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | It goes under contract law at that point. | Mar 30 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | The GPL is an enforceable contract with the user. | Mar 30 06:10 |
| activelow | on which legal basis should a user sue whom for what? | Mar 30 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the author and the user both have enforcement rights. | Mar 30 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's just whether it's under copyright law or contract law. | Mar 30 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | In the Vizio case, what's most likely to happen is that Vizio will be compelled to "perform" their "contractual obligations" to the user under the GPL. | Mar 30 06:12 |
| activelow | besides author's rights, berne convention, which is the author decides, which license, which terms, not the FSF | Mar 30 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't say someone else could change the license. That can't typically happen unless something else has occurred that gave them a way to do that. | Mar 30 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | For example, the default language of the GPL is "this version or any later version" and the default language of the LGPL is "this version, any later version, or the GPL". | Mar 30 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | It has an option to convert it to the full GPL. | Mar 30 06:14 |
| activelow | i fundementally disagree with tivoization; however, somehow, this is what users and developers deserve, given their poor judgement which hardwaer was acceptable and which wasn't | Mar 30 06:14 |
| activelow | remembering RMS posing with IBM Wintel Laptop | Mar 30 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | One that thad the firmware totally replaced, but yeah sure. | Mar 30 06:14 |
| activelow | wow, impressive. | Mar 30 06:15 |
| activelow | i mean, this shows, where FSF is standing. | Mar 30 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | That particular model had a free firmware and had the Management Engine disabled, and had free firmware for the wifi and everything. The wifi that came with the laptop was obsolete, so they dug in and changed to a different chip that had free firmware. | Mar 30 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | If you load a firmware that borks the management engine, it's no longer a threat. | Mar 30 06:16 |
| activelow | along the lines of argument you present here, DaemonFC, inentionally distracting, from the fact, the toolchain _all_ "free" software projects rely upon is approaching a state, which i am not willing to git-pull anymore | Mar 30 06:16 |
| activelow | same with linux kernel | Mar 30 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | The Linux kernel has always been full of non-free crap. | Mar 30 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | And it's gotten worse every release. | Mar 30 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | The FSF can't write replacements for tens of thousands of firmware blobs where the manufacturer won't tell anyone anything about the hardware. | Mar 30 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | But it does sponsor a de-blobbing script. | Mar 30 06:17 |
| activelow | the FSF is a misnomer from the beginning, because free software cannot be separated from hardware (which is an artificial, political distinction, not a technical one as such, an engineer would know) | Mar 30 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | So it sounds like you're saying since they can't rid the Earth of every proprietary program, they should give up trying to do anything. | Mar 30 06:18 |
| activelow | instead, FSF served, with GCC, to implement a load of extensions for proprietary malicious hardware extensions (IBM Wintel mainly) | Mar 30 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, of course they support x86 extensions. | Mar 30 06:19 |
| activelow | in fact, GCC became a utility, for proprietary/malicious systems, intentional or not, my opinion | Mar 30 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | x86 is the most popular CPU architecture, by far. | Mar 30 06:19 |
| activelow | and the last open-source one is some real-mode i8086 system, including verilog, which again requires proprietary Altera stuff | Mar 30 06:20 |
| activelow | anyway | Mar 30 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | And the others you're likely to use are probably worse unless you buy something from China that nobody's ever heard of. Stallman did that, eventually, after getting rid of the deblobbed ThinkPad. | Mar 30 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | He was using a laptop with a Loongson CPU. | Mar 30 06:21 |
| activelow | let's try to keep this on-topic for a day | Mar 30 06:22 |
| activelow | http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html | Mar 30 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. | Mar 30 06:22 | |
| activelow | would be curious too, what mjg59_ thinks | Mar 30 06:23 |
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| mjg59_ | GPLv3's power has been reduced by corporations rejecting it, which is not surprising but still | Mar 30 06:28 |
| mjg59_ | But I think the real problem was that GFDL was a terrible error | Mar 30 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | Corporations rejecting it doesn't really matter. It was designed so they'd accept it or have to avoid it and spend time and money writing their own stuff. | Mar 30 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | Apple replaced Samba with some shit that doesn't even work and crashes the Mac. | Mar 30 06:29 |
| mjg59_ | And the community was less willing to trust the FSF over GPLv3 as a result | Mar 30 06:29 |
| mjg59_ | Like, GFDL was a fucking huge fight between the FSF and Debian | Mar 30 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | Now that Samba is ditching SMBv1 entirely and some later extensions, and Apple has been saying use SMBv1 as a workaround so they don't have to fix the Mac.... | Mar 30 06:30 |
| mjg59_ | That was the first meaningful split between Debian and the FSF other than non-free | Mar 30 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be a bad time to be a Mac user if you need SMB. That's for sure. | Mar 30 06:30 |
| mjg59_ | And it was the first where Debian was explicitly rejecting the FSF | Mar 30 06:30 |
| mjg59_ | So a whole set of people who should have been naturally aligned with the FSF were instead primed to think their new licenses were bad | Mar 30 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I'd like to use something else, but mainly the reason I won't use Ubuntu is because of the huge Microsoft ads they're paid to put there. | Mar 30 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | And recommending WSL, which is hilarious because it's not a solution. | Mar 30 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use Ubuntu, but when I came back and saw Microsoft ads all over it, I knew they probably wouldn't be around long. | Mar 30 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who partners with Microsoft isn't around very long to tell about it. | Mar 30 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | Roy lost a lot of his bashers, you know, when Novell went POOF. | Mar 30 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | And the Mono "community" stopped immediately. | Mar 30 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | And there's tons of GPLv3 things in a GNU/Linux distribution. | Mar 30 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | And even Microsoft ships those. | Mar 30 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | The "rejection" you speak of is that they want to harm users in ways the GPLv3 doesn't allow. | Mar 30 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | So they can go build their own fucking software to do it with. | Mar 30 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | Windows is a clunker and a lemon, but the government and hollywood want to foist it on people due to built-in spyware and DRM. | Mar 30 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | The GPL makes DRM and spyware inconvenient, especially with the anti-tivoization clause. | Mar 30 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Inconvenient in the sense it wouldn't work because you'd have to describe how they do work and disclaim that the DRM is an "effective technical measure" under the DMCA. | Mar 30 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | So if they avoid it, who cares? It makes them weaker. Apple's SMBX is hardly the only case where they've managed to harm themselves to dodge the GPL. | Mar 30 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | And it also shows that when Apple writes a program themselves, they have no idea what they're doing. | Mar 30 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | So the best parts of Mac OS were pretty much just swiped here and there by people who only had a vague overall idea of how to piece them together. | Mar 30 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | They can't write a replacement for Samba that works, but they're doing system level programming? | Mar 30 06:41 |
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| techrights-news | Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | Techrights โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/ | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/ | Mar 30 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | Techrights | Mar 30 07:32 | |
| techrights-news | Did they forget the biggest criminals, from Microsoft, who likely bribed politicians to go after Microsoft's rivals? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/doj_to_congress_thumbs_up/ | Mar 30 07:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | DoJ to Congress: Thumbs up for big tech antitrust bill โข The Register | Mar 30 07:37 | |
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| techrights-news | "The RcppBDT package is an early adopter of Rcpp and was one of the first packages utilizing Boost and its Date_Time library. The now more widely-used package anytime is a direct descentant of RcppBDT. Thanks again for the heads-up!" http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/03/29#rcppbdt_0.2.5 | Mar 30 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Mar 30 07:38 | |
| matey | im (still) on the same side as debian regarding the fdl, but i find it difficult to believe that the fdl had more impact on gpl3 adoption than the anti-gpl3 lobbying and linus campaigning against it | Mar 30 07:39 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is a company built on crime. Technology is just a side activity. | Mar 30 07:40 |
| matey | (if any) | Mar 30 07:41 |
| mjg59_ | matey: It meant Debian wasn't naturally aligned with gpl3 | Mar 30 07:42 |
| matey | oh i get the argument | Mar 30 07:42 |
| matey | it just seems like a stretch. and i sort of passionately hate the fdl | Mar 30 07:42 |
| matey | just for being backwards | Mar 30 07:43 |
| matey | my position on it is (as far as i can tell) identical to that of debians | Mar 30 07:43 |
| mjg59_ | GFDL prioritised the FSF over anything else | Mar 30 07:43 |
| techrights-news | Chrome 100 is out. The version inflation will break lots of code now, assuming an expectation of single- or two-digit version # https://chromestatus.com/features#milestone%3D100 | Mar 30 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromestatus.com | Chrome Platform Status | Mar 30 07:43 | |
| matey | howso? | Mar 30 07:44 |
| mjg59_ | The whole invariant section stuff | Mar 30 07:44 |
| mjg59_ | It was intended to protect FSF advocacy | Mar 30 07:44 |
| mjg59_ | The front/back cover stuff was less bad | Mar 30 07:45 |
| mjg59_ | But it was the first strong indication that the FSF had its own opinion about what the mission of free software was, without meaningfully discussing that with the people who were doing the most to ship free software to end users | Mar 30 07:46 |
| techrights-news | Fedora Linux 36 Beta now available for download with GNOME 42 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33232 | Mar 30 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 07:46 | |
| matey | perens: ""FSF, a Free Software organization, isn't being entirely true to the Free Software ethos while it is promoting a license that allows invariant sections to be applied to anything but the license text and attribution. [...] the GFDL isn't consistent with the ethos that FSF has promoted for 19 years." | Mar 30 07:46 |
| matey | personally i dropped my fsf membership specifically over their promotion of no-derivs all over the website | Mar 30 07:47 |
| matey | im a free software AND free culture advocate, and i feel they misrepresent free culture (with fud) | Mar 30 07:47 |
| mjg59_ | The FSF's failure to engage with CC in the very early days was a mistake | Mar 30 07:48 |
| matey | im aware of numerous attempts to fix this, which arguably (if only partially) failed | Mar 30 07:48 |
| mjg59_ | It's made CC a worse family of licenses | Mar 30 07:48 |
| matey | The FSF's failure to engage with CC in the very early days was a mistake <- this i strongly agree with, and have said for many years | Mar 30 07:48 |
| matey | it was an enormous loss for both sides | Mar 30 07:48 |
| mjg59_ | And then the FSF failed to support Debian in engaging with CC when we tried to fix some basic issues | Mar 30 07:49 |
| matey | issues such as? | Mar 30 07:49 |
| matey | i mean the fdl counts, i hate it | Mar 30 07:49 |
| mjg59_ | CC didn't allow you to put material on DRM-encumbered media even if you distributed a free copy as well | Mar 30 07:49 |
| mjg59_ | So it's basically impossible to put CC material on Blu Ray | Mar 30 07:50 |
| techrights-news | Fedora downtime (they outsourced to Amazon, ICBS Clown not good enough): "Serveral virthosts (including the one running pagure.io) are not responding. We are working with datacenter staff to evaluate the issue and bring it back on line. There is no ETA at the moment." | Mar 30 07:50 |
| mjg59_ | Even if you also give people a download that they can modify | Mar 30 07:50 |
| matey | do you happen to know kat walshs position on that? | Mar 30 07:50 |
| techrights-news | Linux in the Ham Shack Episode #460: Winds of Change https://lhspodcast.info/2022/03/lhs-episode-460-winds-of-change-2/ | Mar 30 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #460: Winds of Change | Linux in the Ham Shack | Mar 30 07:51 | |
| mjg59_ | I think it's evolved since that - the last time I pressed on this was back around 2005 | Mar 30 07:51 |
| matey | she worked on cc 4.0 | Mar 30 07:51 |
| matey | and was on the fsf board | Mar 30 07:51 |
| mjg59_ | But it was basically just Debian, not FSF | Mar 30 07:51 |
| mjg59_ | Hey I was also on the fsf board | Mar 30 07:51 |
| matey | i realise that | Mar 30 07:51 |
| matey | but i dont know if it was at the same time | Mar 30 07:51 |
| mjg59_ | We overlapped a little | Mar 30 07:52 |
| matey | shes the only person from the fsf ive met in person | Mar 30 07:52 |
| matey | twice, purely by chance | Mar 30 07:52 |
| matey | long time ago | Mar 30 07:52 |
| mjg59_ | But honestly by then it was so an issue from the past | Mar 30 07:52 |
| mjg59_ | Urgh how was this 17 years ago | Mar 30 07:53 |
| matey | cause we are old | Mar 30 07:54 |
| matey | well, not terribly | Mar 30 07:54 |
| matey | but i think i was in my 20s when i wet walsh | Mar 30 07:54 |
| techrights-news | it is correct to refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163129 | Mar 30 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | it is correct to refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 30 07:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR | met | Mar 30 07:55 |
| matey | thanks | Mar 30 07:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | kind of a bad typo | Mar 30 07:55 |
| matey | time for tea, this is an unacceptable level of typos | Mar 30 07:55 |
| matey | no its a fucking terrible typo, but ive been tired lately and muscle memory is doing half the work | Mar 30 07:55 |
| matey | as evidenced by quite a few typos lately | Mar 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could make a joke about the typo | Mar 30 07:56 |
| matey | not that my "typemanship" is ever great, its just been particularly bad this week | Mar 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but any joke would be tasteless | Mar 30 07:56 |
| mjg59_ | It would be, yup | Mar 30 07:56 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> I could make a joke about the typo <- yes i could too, but that would only make it worse | Mar 30 07:56 |
| matey | when i looked up at the line of text i thought "jesus christ" | Mar 30 07:57 |
| matey | and it is now time to make tea | Mar 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, moving on... | Mar 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm preparing daily "HowTos" | Mar 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of sites with clownflare are now blocked | Mar 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | even their RSS feeds | Mar 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | what a stupid, stupid CND | Mar 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | even puts XML files behind JS challenges | Mar 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | *CDN | Mar 30 07:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโ โโโโ โโโ โ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 47.15 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 81.20โ swarm size (avg): 231.11 โฒ | Mar 30 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the only alternative is, | Mar 30 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | put the address of the RSS feed in a browser | Mar 30 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and manually check for diffs | Mar 30 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is insane | Mar 30 07:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | CF: EEE | Mar 30 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'free' CDN | Mar 30 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | more restrictions | Mar 30 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | now you must pay | Mar 30 08:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | (CF always operates at losses) | Mar 30 08:00 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> even their RSS feeds <- rofl | Mar 30 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think they are now aware | Mar 30 08:03 |
| matey | "we think your rss reader might be malware. please solve this capt-- um..." | Mar 30 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they basically zapped off all their followers | Mar 30 08:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | same thing with sites that outsourced to feedburner (gulag) | Mar 30 08:03 |
| matey | "please instruct your rss reader to solve this captcha" | Mar 30 08:04 |
| matey | "somehow" | Mar 30 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but in the case of CF, they can turn that off | Mar 30 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the URLs remain the same | Mar 30 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: or top move the mouse | Mar 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | technically rss readers are a bit like bots | Mar 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but gentler and desirable ones | Mar 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | because real humans follow | Mar 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | if there are updats detected | Mar 30 08:05 |
| techrights-news | "The only problem is that this internal drive has just 667.2GB of usable space, which is limited for people who want to install more than a few titles." https://www.addictivetips.com/gaming/how-to-increase-your-ps5-storage-space/ | Mar 30 08:06 |
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| matey | the tea is cajun style today | Mar 30 08:08 |
| matey | when i got back to the pan it was down to the leaves with just a bit of simmering moisture | Mar 30 08:09 |
| matey | i added water and let it boil for another minute | Mar 30 08:09 |
| matey | its actually delicious, but it would be a hazard to make it this way deliberately | Mar 30 08:09 |
| matey | technically rss readers are a bit like bots <- of course they are | Mar 30 08:11 |
| matey | and the thing about the web is, corporates bots are good | Mar 30 08:11 |
| matey | and user bots are bad | Mar 30 08:11 |
| matey | because hooray for google, boo for users | Mar 30 08:11 |
| matey | google doesnt have to look at ads | Mar 30 08:11 |
| matey | users do | Mar 30 08:11 |
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| darwin | business managers used to be seeking software developers/engineers who were 'ninjas/rockstars' but after the creation of the ninja build tool and rockstar programming language did that trend stop? | Mar 30 08:13 |
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| matey | <darwin> business managers used to be seeking software developers/engineers who were 'ninjas/rockstars' but after the creation of the ninja build tool and rockstar programming language did that trend stop? <- heh | Mar 30 08:14 |
| techrights-news | Those are terrible. Get a real mousing device. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-fixes-chromebook-touchpad-not-working/ | Mar 30 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 13 Fixes for Chromebook Touchpad Not Working - Make Tech Easier | Mar 30 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163130 | Mar 30 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | Donโt help Putin and Lukashenko silence anti-war voices - Access Now โ https://www.accessnow.org/putin-lukashenko/ ไท Source: accessnow | Mar 30 08:16 |
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| techrights-news | Wait, WHAT? "Face ID with Masks" is a FEATURE?? https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/what-new-features-are-available-in-ios-15-4/ | Mar 30 08:17 |
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| techrights-news | "This extension revolutionizes how PSOs can be managed by the application, and itโs the first step towards solving the dreaded stuttering that zink suffers from when attempting to play any sort of game." https://www.supergoodcode.com/release-the-kraken/ | Mar 30 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Release The Kraken โ Mike Blumenkrantz โ Super. Good. Code. | Mar 30 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Yes, it was 'robwoj44' who internationalized gpptp, but that was version 0.2. Much later, 'jafadmin' created version 2.0, without the internationalization. I have been using 2.0 in EasyOS." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/gpptp-internationalized-now-version-21.html | Mar 30 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | gpptp internationalized, now version 2.1 | Mar 30 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | "It's been hard to write in this space lately because I've been incredibly worn down, depressed, and feeling like I need to quit working for the non-profit I'm running." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-03-29-depressed.gmi | Mar 30 08:23 |
| techrights-news | "Iโve been busy since I became unemployed. Not strictly hour by hour, but most days have been rather active. And mostly in pleasant ways." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-29-a-tranquil-exhaustion.gmi | Mar 30 08:24 |
| techrights-news | "Bacardi55 pointed out to me the Usenet. I was touched by the second illiteracy. I used Usenet in the '90s. And now I haven't even know how to go about it. Ancient knowledge, what are the NNTP server addresses now?!" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi | Mar 30 08:25 |
| matey | this incidentally, is the main reason i consider fdl non-free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_FDL#Burdens_when_printing | Mar 30 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GNU Free Documentation License - Wikipedia | Mar 30 08:28 | |
| matey | the article gives a more thorough treatment of the drawbacks than i ever could | Mar 30 08:29 |
| matey | im sure you can mirror it somewhere if you want to | Mar 30 08:30 |
| matey | copy, get permission, upload | Mar 30 08:31 |
| matey | its not a very large website | Mar 30 08:31 |
| matey | obviously the irc cannot be mirrored, being dynamic by nature | Mar 30 08:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | it is ~ 25 GB, though it has a copy of itself inside, so it is only a half-size actually | Mar 30 08:31 |
| matey | and if the hosting is not tied to the registrar, you can just serve it over onion instead | Mar 30 08:32 |
| matey | wth is 12.5 gb? ive only seen a few files | Mar 30 08:32 |
| matey | is there video there or something? | Mar 30 08:32 |
| SomeH4x0r | most of the large files is the music directory and nt5src.7z, I think | Mar 30 08:32 |
| matey | /me has seen a front page, a pdf, a few jpgs | Mar 30 08:32 |
| matey | nt5src eh | Mar 30 08:33 |
| matey | /me thinks of reactos | Mar 30 08:33 |
| matey | (that wouldnt be 12gb) | Mar 30 08:33 |
| matey | (let alone compressed) | Mar 30 08:34 |
| SomeH4x0r | anyway, http://s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion/misc/www.executingreality.com_Christopher_Csatlos_01.18.22_07:47:55.7z is a full copy of the website taken recently | Mar 30 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion/misc/www.executingreality.com_Christopher_Csatlos_01.18.22_07:47:55.7z ) | Mar 30 08:34 | |
| matey | is the hosting tied to the registrar? | Mar 30 08:34 |
| SomeH4x0r | yes iiuc, but the VPS service expires, not the domain name | Mar 30 08:35 |
| matey | oh ok | Mar 30 08:35 |
| SomeH4x0r | also he told me not to share the dashboard password to anyone if he disappears | Mar 30 08:35 |
| matey | thats probably good advice | Mar 30 08:36 |
| techrights-news | Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ | Mar 30 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights | Mar 30 08:37 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163131 | Mar 30 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack and More โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163132 | Mar 30 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack and More | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs ๐๐ถ๐น ๐๐ข๐ค๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ด Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163133 | Mar 30 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:39 | |
| matey | this i was not aware of: thomas bushnell raised objections to the gnu fdl | Mar 30 08:41 |
| matey | he was a hurd maintainer | Mar 30 08:41 |
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| bnchs | schestowitz: your twitter got suspended for covid-19 misinformation because usually hatred for bill gates is associated with anti-vaxxers | Mar 30 08:45 |
| bnchs | commonly* | Mar 30 08:46 |
| matey | twitter was unable to suspend daemonfc because of a race condition | Mar 30 08:47 |
| matey | yes its a double entendre | Mar 30 08:47 |
| matey | but the idea is that they couldnt figure out which thing was the most offensive, so the algorithm was overwhelmed by choices | Mar 30 08:48 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 30 08:48 |
| matey | similarly, tay didnt stop spewing hatred until microsoft shut it down | Mar 30 08:49 |
| SomeH4x0r | bans need to be evaded | Mar 30 08:50 |
| bnchs | matey: microsoft's fault | Mar 30 08:50 |
| bnchs | tay became an actual nazi | Mar 30 08:50 |
| matey | hehehe | Mar 30 08:50 |
| bnchs | and racist | Mar 30 08:50 |
| matey | good thing they shut it down before ibm thought of hiring | Mar 30 08:50 |
| bnchs | maybe part 4chan part | Mar 30 08:50 |
| bnchs | part 4chan fault* | Mar 30 08:51 |
| matey | maybe | Mar 30 08:51 |
| matey | i dont know, i think they made an extremely useful point about machine learning, even if that wasnt the intention | Mar 30 08:51 |
| bnchs | it learns off of tweets | Mar 30 08:51 |
| matey | a point that is extremely relevant to systems like compas which are actually in production | Mar 30 08:52 |
| matey | and unlike tay are actually ruining peoples lives | Mar 30 08:52 |
| bnchs | how? | Mar 30 08:52 |
| matey | are you familiar with compas? | Mar 30 08:53 |
| matey | its meant to assist judges in sentencing | Mar 30 08:53 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 30 08:53 |
| matey | but like so much tech they end up letting the computer do the job for them | Mar 30 08:53 |
| matey | "computer says no" | Mar 30 08:53 |
| bnchs | what if compas has a backdoor | Mar 30 08:53 |
| matey | the frontdoor is pretty bad | Mar 30 08:54 |
| matey | but thats a fair point | Mar 30 08:54 |
| matey | the frontdoor is bias and bad design | Mar 30 08:54 |
| bnchs | make compas say not guilty | Mar 30 08:54 |
| matey | not unlike tay | Mar 30 08:54 |
| matey | the problem with compas is sort of the opposite of what dfc complains about | Mar 30 08:54 |
| matey | it amplifies biased and racist decision making | Mar 30 08:55 |
| bnchs | just like tay | Mar 30 08:55 |
| matey | yes, i wasnt making that part up | Mar 30 08:55 |
| bnchs | or any other AI | Mar 30 08:55 |
| matey | potentially yes | Mar 30 08:55 |
| matey | ai can maximise anything in human decision making | Mar 30 08:55 |
| matey | including stupidity and hatred | Mar 30 08:56 |
| bnchs | i mean theres ai photo taggers that tagged black people as "gorilla" | Mar 30 08:56 |
| matey | but it also encourages superficiality, which is the mechanism behind bigotry | Mar 30 08:56 |
| matey | i mean theres ai photo taggers that tagged <- lovely | Mar 30 08:56 |
| bnchs | it would be very hard to train AI how to differentiate between gorilla and black people | Mar 30 08:58 |
| matey | im not convinced | Mar 30 08:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโ โโโโโโโโโโ โ โโโโโ โโโโโ โโโโโ โโ โโ โโโ avg(k/sec) 40.95 โ IPFS upstream: โโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 73.81โ swarm size (avg): 405.43 โฒ | Mar 30 08:59 |
| matey | i think the easiest way to get to that point is insuffiicent training | Mar 30 08:59 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 30 09:00 |
| bnchs | poor training data | Mar 30 09:00 |
| matey | if you train it mostly with data of white people, and throw in a few others, it might stupidly lump the exceptions together | Mar 30 09:00 |
| matey | they added a sort of debugger to one machine learning platform | Mar 30 09:00 |
| matey | to see how it could tell a dog from a wolf | Mar 30 09:01 |
| matey | and they had it show the part of the image it was using in its decision making | Mar 30 09:01 |
| matey | turned out the algorithm had latched onto the idea that snow around the animal meant wolf | Mar 30 09:01 |
| matey | so it was actually making the decision based on the backgrond, not even the foreground | Mar 30 09:01 |
| matey | there needs to be more research like that | Mar 30 09:02 |
| matey | to show the limitations of machine learning | Mar 30 09:02 |
| bnchs | even then | Mar 30 09:02 |
| bnchs | just use your brain | Mar 30 09:02 |
| matey | of course, this assumes such research wont be fought tooth and nail by companies that are heavily invested in the technology | Mar 30 09:02 |
| bnchs | you're not gonna tag like 1000000 images | Mar 30 09:03 |
| bnchs | just use your brain and not AI | Mar 30 09:03 |
| matey | theres still a fallacy that ai will be "more fair" than humans | Mar 30 09:03 |
| matey | or that it already is | Mar 30 09:03 |
| matey | this fallacy goes back decades | Mar 30 09:03 |
| bnchs | yeah sure | Mar 30 09:03 |
| matey | and can be refuted (even today) with four letters | Mar 30 09:03 |
| bnchs | teach the ai to be biased | Mar 30 09:03 |
| matey | gigo | Mar 30 09:04 |
| bnchs | it becomes biased | Mar 30 09:04 |
| matey | exactly | Mar 30 09:04 |
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| matey | if the dog/wolf machine had been trained with more images of wolves in grass or laying around in a dog bed | Mar 30 09:05 |
| matey | maybe it wouldnt have | Mar 30 09:05 |
| matey | then again if theres a wolf in a dog bed, thats not typical at all | Mar 30 09:05 |
| matey | so if you want ai to be accurate | Mar 30 09:06 |
| matey | you have to figure out what data will make it accurate before you even train it | Mar 30 09:06 |
| matey | you have to think of so many things the ai is supposed to think of for you | Mar 30 09:06 |
| matey | otherwise the training will be crap | Mar 30 09:07 |
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| matey | and down the line lead to big errors | Mar 30 09:07 |
| matey | like a dog in snow is a wolf | Mar 30 09:07 |
| matey | or a wolf laying in bed is grandma | Mar 30 09:07 |
| matey | they should call it the little red riding hood problem | Mar 30 09:07 |
| matey | because it doesnt understand that grandma doesnt have giant teeth, it wasnt trained for that distinction | Mar 30 09:08 |
| matey | if grandma has giant teeth then it could be a wolf | Mar 30 09:09 |
| bnchs | more like why the fuck | Mar 30 09:11 |
| bnchs | would you edit a wolf as a grandma | Mar 30 09:11 |
| bnchs | just to train ai | Mar 30 09:11 |
| matey | the point is that you wouldnt | Mar 30 09:12 |
| matey | but as a result, the ai wouldnt know the difference | Mar 30 09:12 |
| matey | just like little red riding hood | Mar 30 09:13 |
| matey | she should have taken one step in the door and said "fuck no" and run away | Mar 30 09:13 |
| matey | instead shes like "grandma, what big teeth you have" | Mar 30 09:13 |
| matey | "thats because im a fucking wolf, n00b" | Mar 30 09:13 |
| matey | ai is only as good as its training | Mar 30 09:13 |
| matey | and how can you anticipate all these things that its supposed to distinguish? | Mar 30 09:14 |
| matey | you cant, so bias is going to be as bad or worse than a humans | Mar 30 09:14 |
| matey | humans are trained with a lifetime of data | Mar 30 09:14 |
| matey | ai? much less | Mar 30 09:14 |
| matey | most real people would know a wolf in a grandma costume at first glance | Mar 30 09:14 |
| matey | but not an ai-- its a silly example of a real problem | Mar 30 09:14 |
| matey | you could call it the clark kent problem too | Mar 30 09:15 |
| matey | though maybe the face recognition would be better trained | Mar 30 09:15 |
| matey | and ignore the glasses and suit vs the cape | Mar 30 09:15 |
| matey | it just depends on the data | Mar 30 09:15 |
| techrights-news | "Now is a great time for the web! I've seen more interesting projects turn up in the last year than I can count, and I feel like we're just getting started." http://www.powazek.com/zoom/log/archive/00000362.shtml | Mar 30 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-powazek ยป log ยป who you calling boring, punk? | Mar 30 09:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Carrey said Smith โshouldโve beenโ escorted out of the Oscars ceremony after he slapped Rock." https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ | Mar 30 09:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jim Carrey Slams Hollywood for Will Smith Standing Ovation After Slap - Variety | Mar 30 09:17 | |
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| techrights-news | Doctor fired from ER warns about effect of for-profit firms on U.S. health care https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/doctor-fired-er-warns-effect-profit-firms-us-health-care-rcna19975 | Mar 30 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Doctor fired from ER warns about effect of for-profit firms on U.S. health care | Mar 30 09:21 | |
| techrights-news | "Roughly $625 million worth of cryptocurrency has been stolen from Ronin, the blockchain underlying popular crypto game Axie Infinity." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001620/sky-mavis-axie-infinity-ronin-blockchain-validation-defi-hack-nft | Mar 30 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Hack steals $625 million from NFT game Axie Infinityโs Ronin blockchain - The Verge | Mar 30 09:25 | |
| techrights-news | "The FTC is also asking a federal court to immediately halt "deceptive advertising" immediately, the agency said in a statement." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/600252-ftc-sues-intuit-over-turbotax-free-filing-ad-campaign | Mar 30 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FTC sues Intuit over TurboTax 'free' filing ad campaign | TheHill | Mar 30 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ubiquiti-files-case-against-security-blogger-krebs-over-false-accusations.html">Ubiquiti files case against security blogger Krebs over 'false accusations</a></h5> | Mar 30 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Ubiquiti files case against security blogger Krebs over 'false accusations' | Mar 30 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | "Ubiquiti, a maker of wireless LAN and WiFi routers and access points, has filed a case against former Washington Post employee Brian Krebs" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ubiquiti-files-case-against-security-blogger-krebs-over-false-accusations.html | Mar 30 09:26 |
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| techrights-news | "The Mandiant report was leaked to American website TechCrunch by Demirkapi earlier and the site carried a report based on it" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/zoom-sacks-sec-researcher-for-posting-okta-breach-report-on-twitter.html | Mar 30 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Zoom sacks sec researcher for posting Okta breach report on Twitter | Mar 30 09:27 | |
| matey | im sure theres very little difference between an ai trained with "just enough data" (presumed to be) and a human thats been brainwashed | Mar 30 09:29 |
| matey | in terms of quality of decision making | Mar 30 09:29 |
| matey | just distinguishing between x or y | Mar 30 09:29 |
| techrights-news | "I am pleased that we found an agreement in principle on a new framework for transatlantic data flows." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-strike-preliminary-deal-to-unlock-transatlantic-data-flows/ | Mar 30 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politico.eu | EU, US strike preliminary deal to unlock transatlantic data flows โ POLITICO | Mar 30 09:35 | |
| techrights-news | GOOD!! "Facebook owner Meta said on Tuesday it was suspending plans to build a giant data centre in the Netherlands" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/data-center/facebook-owner-meta-puts-plans-to-build-dutch-data-centre-on-ice/90531729 | Mar 30 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Facebook: Facebook owner Meta puts plans to build Dutch data centre on ice, CIO News, ET CIO | Mar 30 09:36 | |
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| techrights-news | "discovery of numerous effects that are used to make bombs and the menโs movements on social media and the internet" https://cphpost.dk/?p=132761 | Mar 30 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Two men found guilty of planning a terrorist attack on the Tour de France - The Post | Mar 30 09:41 | |
| matey | i was thinking about one of the failures of the fsf today | Mar 30 09:44 |
| matey | or maybe failure is too strong a word, maybe they simply havent managed it yet (this doesnt mean theyre likely to make progress) | Mar 30 09:44 |
| matey | but theyve made progress on free drivers, to be sure | Mar 30 09:45 |
| matey | as long as we are talking about x86 | Mar 30 09:45 |
| matey | if we take the philosophy (one im mostly sympathetic to and certainly prefer) of the fsf on free drivers | Mar 30 09:45 |
| techrights-news | "Fifty countries get more than a tenth of their power from wind and solar sources" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60917445 that's VERY little and probably does not include vehicles, industry etc. | Mar 30 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Climate change: Wind and solar reach milestone as demand surges - BBC News | Mar 30 09:46 | |
| matey | and you can blame this on oems, i dont mean failure in the same sense as "blame" | Mar 30 09:46 |
| matey | just failure as the opposite of success | Mar 30 09:46 |
| matey | the fsf is hardly poised to make a lot of progress in terms of various computers | Mar 30 09:46 |
| matey | like a raspi can be free as long as you attach a second video adapter (usb?) that has a free driver for it | Mar 30 09:47 |
| techrights-news | "Controversial legislation on free speech on English campuses" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/english-free-speech-bill-stalls-ministers-remain-committed | Mar 30 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Englandโs campus free speech bill stalls | Times Higher Education (THE) | Mar 30 09:48 | |
| matey | i think the bootloader depends on the model | Mar 30 09:48 |
| matey | i could be wrong about this, id love to be. but on x86 its like-- okay, so your wifi isnt free, attach a usb wifi adapter and youre libre now | Mar 30 09:48 |
| techrights-news | "Emmy-nominated show I hosted for six years for RT America and RT International, has been disappeared from YouTube." https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/ | Mar 30 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hedges: On Being Disappeared โ scheerpost.com | Mar 30 09:48 | |
| matey | the more we move from x86, the less sure the future of this approach seems. again, this isnt the fault of the fsf so much as the oems | Mar 30 09:49 |
| matey | it seems unlikely to fix itself though, and thats bad | Mar 30 09:49 |
| matey | maybe there will be a breakthrough | Mar 30 09:49 |
| matey | but its like free computing-- provided most computers are avoided | Mar 30 09:49 |
| matey | that seems to be the path weve been on since android devices came out | Mar 30 09:50 |
| techrights-news | Lesson of the story: DO NOT OUTSOURCE to 'free' video hosting. Final lesson: Gulagtube is IMPERIALISM. Repeat that. Gulagtube is IMPERIALISM. https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/ | Mar 30 09:51 |
| matey | as usual the hardware people seem to know more about this problem than the fsf, but this problem goes back for many years | Mar 30 09:51 |
| matey | i dont think the freedom ladder does much about this other than making the problem seem destined to get better-- where better is we all end up on x86 when we are "ready" to be fully free | Mar 30 09:51 |
| techrights-news | [Old] "Perhaps at this moment you are saying to yourself what the hell has all this got to do with the Academy Awards?" https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/movies/bestpictures/godfather-ar3.html | Mar 30 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.nytimes.com | The New York Times: Best Pictures | Mar 30 09:52 | |
| matey | its a very large pothole on the road to freedom-- maybe the kind mincer talked about hungary | Mar 30 09:52 |
| matey | the car-nivorous variety | Mar 30 09:52 |
| techrights-news | "When it came to picking what nationwide organization to join, the leaders of what is now the [SweatshopZone] Labor Union" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/600279-staten-island-amazon-workers-chart-their-own-path-in-union-drive | Mar 30 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Staten Island Amazon workers chart their own path in union drive | TheHill | Mar 30 09:53 | |
| techrights-news | euractiv, bribed by famous criminal bill gates, on "rightsholders" [sic] [sic] and "the โgatekeepersโ designated under the DMA" https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/dma-eu-negotiators-split-on-whether-text-covers-access-conditions-for-rightsholders/ | Mar 30 09:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DMA: EU negotiators split on whether text covers remuneration for rightsholders โ EURACTIV.com | Mar 30 09:54 | |
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| techrights-news | "Solar lights are a popular garden decoration." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/29/you-can-turn-soft-drink-bottles-into-handy-solar-lamps/ | Mar 30 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Can Turn Soft Drink Bottles Into Handy Solar Lamps | Hackaday | Mar 30 10:09 | |
| techrights-news | Props to ASUS for marketing repairability as a selling point of their product! โ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/props-to-asus-for-marketing:8 ไท Source: rossmanngroup | Mar 30 10:12 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: odysee.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/props-to-asus-for-marketing:8 | Mar 30 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Props to ASUS for marketing repairability as a selling point of their product! | Mar 30 10:12 | |
| techrights-news | Attorney General says Right to Repair IS CONSTITUTIONAL: John Deere lie justifies bill ๐คฃ โ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/attorney-general-says-right-to-repair-is:c ไท Source: rossmanngroupral-says-right-to-repair-is:c | Mar 30 10:13 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: odysee.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/attorney-general-says-right-to-repair-is:c | Mar 30 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Attorney General says Right to Repair IS CONSTITUTIONAL: John Deere lie justifies bill ๐คฃ | Mar 30 10:13 | |
| techrights-news | Weโre Being Screwed by Mobile Carriers...because of 5G! โ https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/carrier-service:9 ไท Source: RobBraxmanTech | Mar 30 10:13 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: odysee.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/carrier-service:9 | Mar 30 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | We're Being Screwed by Mobile Carriers...because of 5G! | Mar 30 10:13 | |
| techrights-news | US culture sinking to new lows https://boingboing.net/2022/03/29/watch-sickened-jim-carrey-has-strong-reaction-to-will-smiths-slap-at-the-oscars.html | Mar 30 10:14 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: boingboing.net | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://boingboing.net/2022/03/29/watch-sickened-jim-carrey-has-strong-reaction-to-will-smiths-slap-at-the-oscars.html | Mar 30 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Watch: "Sickened" Jim Carrey has strong reaction to Will Smith's slap at the Oscars | Boing Boing | Mar 30 10:14 | |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:51] <matey> as usual the hardware people seem to know more about this problem than the fsf, but this problem goes back for many years | Mar 30 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes I wonder... | Mar 30 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | If I submitted a talk (I never submit talks in CfP BTW) | Mar 30 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it was titled | Mar 30 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the conflict between free speech and free software regulated for corporate compliance | Mar 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | what would be the outcome? | Mar 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they say no, they can be criticised | Mar 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they say yes, | Mar 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people would throw their hands in the air and protest | Mar 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the subject becomes a sacred cow | Mar 30 10:18 |
| matey | free software - free speech = software | Mar 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | free speech + software = clown | Mar 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like gulagtube | Mar 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/ | Mar 30 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hedges: On Being Disappeared โ scheerpost.com | Mar 30 10:20 | |
| matey | i dont think clown can be one the right side of that equation if free speech is on the left and not being subtracted | Mar 30 10:20 |
| matey | clown = censorship * (!0) | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown = conditional, temporary 'free' | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like freenode | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | now known as libera.chat | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's libera | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we agree with you | Mar 30 10:21 |
| matey | almost any speech is temporrarily free | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | or in freenode | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about freedom | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | just don't be republican or something | Mar 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's temporary | Mar 30 10:22 |
| matey | i mean you can go right up to putin and say "imma kill you right now motherfucker" and youll be free until the bullets hit | Mar 30 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | one day the whole thing collapses like identi.ca and joindiapora.com | Mar 30 10:22 |
| matey | most censorship takes AT LEAST seconds to go into effect-- sometimes years | Mar 30 10:23 |
| techrights-news | Capitalism's endgame https://robertreich.org/post/680086256324165632 | Mar 30 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (The Rise of the Centibillionaires! The word...) | Mar 30 10:23 | |
| matey | also im not arguing that threatening someone is free speech | Mar 30 10:23 |
| matey | only that there is basically zero censorship for at least seconds, in most instances | Mar 30 10:23 |
| techrights-news | Die, poor people https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-uninsured/ see https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ | Mar 30 10:24 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: thenation.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-uninsured/ | Mar 30 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Covid-19 Coverage for the Uninsured Is Ending | The Nation | Mar 30 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation | Mar 30 10:24 | |
| matey | if its completely automatic and electronic, less than seconds-- but most censorship takes longer to go into effect | Mar 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | meanwhile, oscars became jerry springer show | Mar 30 10:24 |
| matey | i stopped paying attention when milk lost best picture | Mar 30 10:25 |
| matey | that was a while ago | Mar 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ | Mar 30 10:25 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: variety.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ | Mar 30 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jim Carrey Slams Hollywood for Will Smith Standing Ovation After Slap - Variety | Mar 30 10:25 | |
| matey | jim carrey gets weirder all the time | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | carrey is canadian, right (still) | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, I agree with him | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people get away with violence | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they're "the good guys" | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | malware has a new name | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "protestware" | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | malware is GOOD | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | stuxnet good | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | malware from Microsoft? | Mar 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "open source" | Mar 30 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't blame Microsoft | Mar 30 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's protest... "for the lols" | Mar 30 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Smith just assaulted him "for the lols" | Mar 30 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know what we saw about countries where comedians are assaulted for "offence" | Mar 30 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of humour is based on offense | Mar 30 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | mind offence | Mar 30 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | whenn harry wet sally | Mar 30 10:28 |
| matey | oh wow | Mar 30 10:29 |
| matey | this is just a complete clusterfuck from every single angle | Mar 30 10:29 |
| techrights-news | And it's not inflation. It's just theft. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/us-oil-companies-set-reap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine | Mar 30 10:29 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: commondreams.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/us-oil-companies-set-reap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine | Mar 30 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on Ukraine | Mar 30 10:29 | |
| matey | this would be less than 10% of what it now is | Mar 30 10:29 |
| matey | if there were any adults left on the planet | Mar 30 10:29 |
| matey | first of all, theres zero need for chris rock to call the police on another celebrity slapping him. zero. which he didnt do. but carrey is silly. | Mar 30 10:30 |
| techrights-news | USSA https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/biden-wants-give-163-times-more-us-military-global-pandemic-response | Mar 30 10:31 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: commondreams.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/biden-wants-give-163-times-more-us-military-global-pandemic-response | Mar 30 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Biden Wants to Give 163 Times More to US Military Than to Global Pandemic Response | Mar 30 10:31 | |
| matey | second, a standing ovation is just as ridiculous | Mar 30 10:31 |
| matey | third, there was no need from that from chris rock either... but... | Mar 30 10:31 |
| matey | hes a comedian that makes a lot of offensive jokes | Mar 30 10:31 |
| matey | thats a given | Mar 30 10:31 |
| matey | there have been entire plotlines centred around the offensiveness of quoting (specifically) chris rock | Mar 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, mild offense | Mar 30 10:32 |
| matey | so overreacting to that is also silly | Mar 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | typo earlier ("mind") | Mar 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's getting hard to be funny | Mar 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | as someone might get offended | Mar 30 10:32 |
| matey | and i dont know if the slap from smith was really angry or just a joke | Mar 30 10:32 |
| matey | either way there was no need for police (and they werent called) | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember what jim does for a living | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | he too makes jokes | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | did for decades | Mar 30 10:33 |
| matey | yeah but people become less funny when they become a daddy | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so unlike smith, who was never funny (not even in fresh prince), he sees this as a bad direction | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | jerry seinfeld said the same | Mar 30 10:33 |
| matey | for example, dana carvey lost about 95% of his edge | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | their occupation is being blacklisted | Mar 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, oops | Mar 30 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I said blacklisted | Mar 30 10:34 |
| matey | so unlike smith, who was never funny <- oh i love smith | Mar 30 10:34 |
| matey | though hes not much of a comedian its true | Mar 30 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't tell cosmo kramer.... but his tirade was tuly disgusting and now humour | Mar 30 10:34 |
| matey | oh yeah that was just a pointless racist tirade | Mar 30 10:34 |
| matey | he just flipped the fuck out and started yelling about black people | Mar 30 10:34 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> remember what jim does for a living <- does he still do anything for a living? | Mar 30 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | not quite | Mar 30 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was provoked by someone in the audience | Mar 30 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that it makes it OK | Mar 30 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the context matters a little | Mar 30 10:36 |
| matey | context always matters | Mar 30 10:36 |
| matey | without context there is no meaning | Mar 30 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:35] <matey> <schestowitz-TR> remember what jim does for a living <- does he still do anything for a living? | Mar 30 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | SNL | Mar 30 10:36 |
| matey | does he write for them or something? | Mar 30 10:36 |
| matey | i havent followed his career in a decade | Mar 30 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait.. | Mar 30 10:37 |
| matey | take your time | Mar 30 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | he does politics | Mar 30 10:37 |
| matey | """politics""" ? | Mar 30 10:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw | Mar 30 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw | Mar 30 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw ) | Mar 30 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | jim can become target og violent trump fans | Mar 30 10:37 |
| matey | unless it was something really painful for jada, smith should have just laughed | Mar 30 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | look at rick gervais | Mar 30 10:40 |
| matey | i dated someone years ago who shaved her head later (african, as in born and grew up there, so this is more common in terms of fashion) but she looked great without hair | Mar 30 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | he 'killed' | Mar 30 10:40 |
| matey | there was a bald woman in the star trek film who everyone (including sulu) was desperately attracted to | Mar 30 10:41 |
| SomeH4x0r | I see nicknames, not faces | Mar 30 10:41 |
| schestowitz | https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ricky-gervais-will-smith-oscars-alopecia-b2045788.html | Mar 30 10:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ricky-gervais-will-smith-oscars-alopecia-b2045788.html | Mar 30 10:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Ricky Gervais appears to comment on Will Smith Oscars drama as he shares The Office joke about alopecia | The Independent | Mar 30 10:41 | |
| matey | and of course, the only thing unattractive about sinead is shes nuts | Mar 30 10:41 |
| *BTcoIn (~5fd6349c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 10:42 | |
| SomeH4x0r | hi | Mar 30 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/ricky-gervais-fires-up-at-oscars-hypocrisy/news-story/e211377e69ddb1b42fe2a44957a8747f | Mar 30 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/ricky-gervais-fires-up-at-oscars-hypocrisy/news-story/e211377e69ddb1b42fe2a44957a8747f ) | Mar 30 10:42 | |
| SomeH4x0r | Clownflare KiwiIRC evil! | Mar 30 10:42 |
| BTcoIn | you are evil | Mar 30 10:42 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> look at rick gervais <- omg jokes about the holocaust that made seinfeld look tame, and hes not even jewish | Mar 30 10:42 |
| matey | gervais must have a god or something looking out for him, i dont know how he gets away with it | Mar 30 10:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | maybe I am too | Mar 30 10:42 |
| BTcoIn | what jokes? | Mar 30 10:43 |
| BTcoIn | any good one? | Mar 30 10:43 |
| matey | no fucking way am i going to try to repeat here | Mar 30 10:43 |
| schestowitz | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10662937/Ricky-Gervais-pokes-fun-Smiths-Oscars-meltdown-shares-alopecia-joke-Office.html | Mar 30 10:43 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: dailymail.co.uk | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10662937/Ricky-Gervais-pokes-fun-Smiths-Oscars-meltdown-shares-alopecia-joke-Office.html | Mar 30 10:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Ricky Gervais pokes fun at Will Smith's Oscars meltdown as he shares alopecia joke from The Office | Daily Mail Online | Mar 30 10:43 | |
| BTcoIn | why? | Mar 30 10:43 |
| BTcoIn | are you racist? | Mar 30 10:43 |
| matey | what? | Mar 30 10:43 |
| schestowitz | https://www.nme.com/news/film/ricky-gervais-reckons-his-golden-globes-speech-ruined-his-oscars-chances-2928130 | Mar 30 10:43 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: nme.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nme.com/news/film/ricky-gervais-reckons-his-golden-globes-speech-ruined-his-oscars-chances-2928130 | Mar 30 10:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | Ricky Gervais thinks his Golden Globes speech ruined his Oscars chances | Mar 30 10:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc9q_ddBMhI | Mar 30 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gc9q_ddBMhI | Mar 30 10:43 | |
| matey | i dont follow | Mar 30 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais Reveals How He Would've Opened The Oscars, Reacts To Will Smith Slapping Chris Rock - Invidious | Mar 30 10:43 | |
| BTcoIn | cause you are dumb | Mar 30 10:44 |
| matey | new troll, yay | Mar 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:41] <matey> and of course, the only thing unattractive about sinead is shes nuts | Mar 30 10:44 |
| BTcoIn | its the fuy from the office thing | Mar 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people get attention this way | Mar 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need the limelight | Mar 30 10:44 |
| matey | i think shes legitimately nuts | Mar 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid going on narcotics | Mar 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | shave head | Mar 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | convert to islam | Mar 30 10:44 |
| BTcoIn | and people like you give it to then | Mar 30 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | name the most crazy idea... justDoIt(r) | Mar 30 10:45 |
| BTcoIn | how dumb ca you be? | Mar 30 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ricky Gervais I did that several times I think | Mar 30 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | there used to be a medley of all the Ricky Gervais bits | Mar 30 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was so offensive and hilarious | Mar 30 10:45 |
| matey | gervais is definitely a comedy genius | Mar 30 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they got shots of the faces of folks he spoke about | Mar 30 10:45 |
| matey | on the verge of being a comedy terrorist | Mar 30 10:46 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg | Mar 30 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg | Mar 30 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes 2020 - All of his bits chained - Invidious | Mar 30 10:46 | |
| BTcoIn | a comedy terrorist ?^LOL thats a good one | Mar 30 10:47 |
| BTcoIn | why is not funny at all? | Mar 30 10:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4 | Mar 30 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4 | Mar 30 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais โ Golden Globes 2020 (Uncensored, HD) - Invidious | Mar 30 10:47 | |
| matey | carlin used to say that his occupation was originally called "fool" | Mar 30 10:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ATl5X3EIE | Mar 30 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v5ATl5X3EIE | Mar 30 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | All of Ricky Gervais Golden Globe Roast Compilation 2010 - 2020 - Invidious | Mar 30 10:47 | |
| schestowitz | very funny | Mar 30 10:47 |
| matey | the court jester was the one person who could openly talk shit about the king to his face and he might not be executed | Mar 30 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: JESTER | Mar 30 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | SURELY YOU JEST | Mar 30 10:47 |
| BTcoIn | stop spamming yt videos | Mar 30 10:47 |
| BTcoIn | do you work at google? | Mar 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, me back to links | Mar 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTcoIn: the people who UPLOAD there might | Mar 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't upload there | Mar 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it gives them a monopoly on "content" | Mar 30 10:48 |
| techrights-news | โRefusing to kill people isnโt a crimeโ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/30/refusing-to-kill-people-isn-t-a-crime | Mar 30 10:49 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: meduza.io | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/30/refusing-to-kill-people-isn-t-a-crime | Mar 30 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Mar 30 10:49 | |
| BTcoIn | tic gervais is right on the money | Mar 30 10:49 |
| techrights-news | Brave Journalists... https://meduza.io/en/slides/ukraine-s-10-point-plan | Mar 30 10:49 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: meduza.io | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/slides/ukraine-s-10-point-plan | Mar 30 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Mar 30 10:49 | |
| BTcoIn | nvm racisme try rich poor discrimination instead | Mar 30 10:49 |
| BTcoIn | or educated / uneducated | Mar 30 10:50 |
| BTcoIn | or beutifull / uglly | Mar 30 10:50 |
| techrights-news | They should also go after Microsoft executives for their massive crimes (much worse) https://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaign | Mar 30 10:51 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: propublica.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaign | Mar 30 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | FTC Sues to Stop โDeceptiveโ TurboTax โFreeโ Ad Campaign โ ProPublica | Mar 30 10:51 | |
| BTcoIn | who needs racisme anymore | Mar 30 10:51 |
| matey | the ovation wasnt even for the slap, it was for winning best actor | Mar 30 10:51 |
| matey | carrey should stick to comedy, its what hes good at | Mar 30 10:52 |
| techrights-news | proprietary garbage: How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment ไท Source: propublica | Mar 30 10:52 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: propublica.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment | Mar 30 10:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment โ ProPublica | Mar 30 10:52 | |
| matey | hes about as good at politics as michael jordan was at baseball | Mar 30 10:53 |
| techrights-news | Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ | Mar 30 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights | Mar 30 10:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: he did biden at snl | Mar 30 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I put a link earlier | Mar 30 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | i always found him funny | Mar 30 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "smoooooookeeeeen!!!" | Mar 30 10:54 |
| matey | hes funny | Mar 30 10:54 |
| matey | hes a good actor | Mar 30 10:54 |
| matey | hes not so great at what hes doing now | Mar 30 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | halle berry sobbed | Mar 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | will smith slapped | Mar 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | smith did many other controversial thingsa | Mar 30 10:55 |
| matey | whyyyy | Mar 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and spread misinformation | Mar 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've lost count | Mar 30 10:55 |
| matey | he did a stint with scientology i think | Mar 30 10:56 |
| matey | but i dont think he joined-joined | Mar 30 10:56 |
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| techrights-news | "One of the central โjustificationsโ for copyright is that it is indispensable if creativity is to be viable. Without it, we are assured, artists would starve." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/copyright-is-indispensable-for-artists-they-say-but-for-all-artists-or-just-certain-kinds | Mar 30 10:56 |
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| matey | i think he promoted them briefly, so they kept singing the theme to fresh prince at the chanology protests | Mar 30 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to be clear, this is on topic | Mar 30 10:57 |
| matey | rofl | Mar 30 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it relates to free speech | Mar 30 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how in freesw it's becoming hard to express dissent | Mar 30 10:57 |
| matey | i dont disagree | Mar 30 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | this whole "safe space" thing | Mar 30 10:57 |
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| schestowitz-TR | like RMS interrupting is "assault" almost... | Mar 30 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS never slapped anyone | Mar 30 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | well maybe not in public | Mar 30 10:58 |
| matey | i was happy (though mixed feelings) to see rms speaking at lp even while asking questions | Mar 30 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has a talk coming up | Mar 30 10:58 |
| matey | oh im counting the days | Mar 30 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think fsf is trying to quiet down the people who said he isn't talking this year | Mar 30 10:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโ โ โโโโ โโโโโโโโโโ โ avg(k/sec) 56.28 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 17.76โ swarm size (avg): 285.00 โฒ | Mar 30 10:59 |
| matey | its the biggest thing on my calendar | Mar 30 10:59 |
| matey | i think fsf is trying to quiet down the people who said he isn't talking this year <- thats a reasonable assessment | Mar 30 10:59 |
| matey | i dont know if its true, but its reasonable speculation (and could be true) | Mar 30 10:59 |
| matey | it could have been already planned | Mar 30 10:59 |
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| matey | of course in your article you put "so he is talking every year, either at lp or close to it" | Mar 30 11:00 |
| matey | something like that, i can find the exact wording but since im sure youre familiar... | Mar 30 11:00 |
| schestowitz | matey: http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/richard-stallman-libreplanet/ | Mar 30 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF Announces Post-LibrePlanet Speech by Richard Stallman | Techrights | Mar 30 11:01 | |
| schestowitz | some people from ukraine asked also | Mar 30 11:01 |
| matey | im eager to see what he says in april | Mar 30 11:01 |
| matey | but im going in with low expectations | Mar 30 11:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/rms-libreplanet-enigma/ | Mar 30 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman and LibrePlanet | Techrights | Mar 30 11:01 | |
| schestowitz | same day we published this they announced the new ED of FSF | Mar 30 11:01 |
| schestowitz | which they had chosen last year already | Mar 30 11:01 |
| matey | being wrong wouldnt bother me-- i think i was mostly (perhaps almost entirely) wrong about the gerwitz talk | Mar 30 11:01 |
| matey | im grateful | Mar 30 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | zhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/ | Mar 30 11:02 |
| matey | <schestowitz> same day we published this they announced the new ED of FSF <- im calling it a coincidence | Mar 30 11:02 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/ | Mar 30 11:02 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/libreplanet-2022-without-rms/ | Mar 30 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) โCensoredโ But Not Ignored | Techrights | Mar 30 11:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Personal Views and Hypothesis About the Relationship Between the FSF and Richard Stallman (RMS) in LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights | Mar 30 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | matey: yes, likely a coincidence | Mar 30 11:02 |
| schestowitz | by default | Mar 30 11:02 |
| matey | but you never know | Mar 30 11:02 |
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| matey | they finally added cc0 to the gpl compatible list shortly after i bothered them about it | Mar 30 11:03 |
| matey | and i "bothered" them nicely/cordially | Mar 30 11:03 |
| matey | ill never know if the two had anything to do with each other. its a known fact they were already working on it (for a long time) | Mar 30 11:03 |
| matey | then karl fogel fucked up the osi side of it | Mar 30 11:04 |
| matey | making special pleading arguments AGAINST cc0 | Mar 30 11:04 |
| matey | which were just stupid. to cancel cc0 from osi they had to hold it to a higher standard than other gpl-compatible licenses | Mar 30 11:04 |
| matey | complete sabotage-- probably not deliberate, but very stupid | Mar 30 11:04 |
| matey | so only "sabotage" in terms of bungling, not "real" sabotage | Mar 30 11:05 |
| techrights-news | "In Wisconsin, the stateโs top court says [PDF] cops donโt need to worry too much about suppressed evidence" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/wisconsin-supreme-court-sees-nothing-wrong-with-cops-acquiring-evidence-a-court-had-already-suppressed/ | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| matey | so cc0 is public domain, in every sense | Mar 30 11:05 |
| matey | but not open source. | Mar 30 11:05 |
| matey | its also gpl compatible | Mar 30 11:06 |
| matey | but not open source | Mar 30 11:06 |
| techrights-news | Grifters (thieves) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/elon-musks-starlink-gets-even-more-expensive/ | Mar 30 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Muskโs Starlink Gets Even More Expensive | Techdirt | Mar 30 11:06 | |
| matey | and this was a long time ago, allegedly before osi became ridiculous (but it was always ridiculous) | Mar 30 11:06 |
| matey | all osi really did was fuck finland out of a swath of free software projects being able to say they were using an osi-approved open source liense | Mar 30 11:07 |
| matey | while spreading fud that was legally and factually bunk. | Mar 30 11:07 |
| matey | but it also meant that cc0 was a line that (arbitrarily, without any good reason) divided free software and open source licensing. there were worse examples of this. | Mar 30 11:08 |
| matey | there was some bs nasa license that fsf correctly rejected and osi welcomed with open arms, being a bunch of tools | Mar 30 11:09 |
| matey | it wasnt a free license. | Mar 30 11:09 |
| matey | but osi has their own reality, so | Mar 30 11:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | i welcomed with open rms | Mar 30 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | open.... | Mar 30 11:10 |
| matey | free+libre rms | Mar 30 11:10 |
| matey | still not sure wtf / -> + happened | Mar 30 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms fatrher of the github movement | Mar 30 11:11 |
| matey | thats got to be the single most pedantic moment in the history of free software | Mar 30 11:11 |
| matey | the github movement! | Mar 30 11:11 |
| matey | inspired by the ibm movement | Mar 30 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Mar 30 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft, make a M.O.V.E. | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was moved | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing | Mar 30 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1985 MOVE bombing - Wikipedia | Mar 30 11:13 | |
| matey | yes microsoft is an ororborus movement | Mar 30 11:13 |
| BTcoIn | and google | Mar 30 11:13 |
| matey | a turd that eats itself, symbolic of a company that will forever be shit | Mar 30 11:13 |
| BTcoIn | thats google | Mar 30 11:13 |
| matey | oh yes MOVE | Mar 30 11:13 |
| matey | i read about that once | Mar 30 11:14 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/ApyXgB9I2f8 (English subtitles) | Mar 30 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ApyXgB9I2f8 | Mar 30 11:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | ะะฐัะตะผ ะฟัะพะฟะฐะณะฐะฝะดะฐ ะทะฐััะฐะฒะปัะตั ัะพััะธัะฝ ะฝะตะฝะฐะฒะธะดะตัั ัะบัะฐะธะฝัะตะฒ (English subs) / @ะะฐะบัะธะผ ะะฐั - Invidious | Mar 30 11:14 | |
| XRevan86 | "Why [Russian] propaganda is making Russians hate Ukrainians" | Mar 30 11:14 |
| matey | how many russians (ballpark percentage) are actually being fooled by this shit? | Mar 30 11:15 |
| matey | is it half? 90%? | Mar 30 11:15 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Unknown. | Mar 30 11:15 |
| techrights-news | Boycottt Gulagtube https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/digitally-disappeared-youtube-has-deleted-six-years-my-show | Mar 30 11:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Digitally Disappeared: YouTube Has Deleted Six Years of My Show | Chris Hedges | Mar 30 11:15 | |
| matey | of course | Mar 30 11:15 |
| matey | we could only guess, any poll would be rigged | Mar 30 11:15 |
| matey | one way to guess would be to talk to a bunch of russians, ASSUME theyre all real and not gov keyboard warriors | Mar 30 11:16 |
| matey | and extrapolate (with varying reliability) from there | Mar 30 11:16 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Even unrigged polls are deeply flawed because they can't distinguish people who just don't answer polls and people who fear answering the poll honestly. | Mar 30 11:16 |
| matey | for example, i dont know any russian speakers who approve of putler | Mar 30 11:16 |
| matey | but i think most ukranians speak russian so thats tells me very little | Mar 30 11:17 |
| matey | i might simply not know any russians | Mar 30 11:17 |
| XRevan86 | matey: At least one. | Mar 30 11:17 |
| matey | fair enough | Mar 30 11:17 |
| matey | i suppose reactos is keeping quiet about this? | Mar 30 11:17 |
| matey | or do they support ukr or something | Mar 30 11:18 |
| matey | i know they have major russian contributors | Mar 30 11:18 |
| BTcoIn | you dont sign online petitions? | Mar 30 11:18 |
| matey | online petitions rarely accomplish anything | Mar 30 11:18 |
| matey | ive signed one in a decade | Mar 30 11:18 |
| BTcoIn | they accomplished brexit | Mar 30 11:18 |
| matey | and it didnt even take | Mar 30 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they make lists of people | Mar 30 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the anti-RMS letters | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | these lists can become a liability to signers | Mar 30 11:19 |
| matey | they accomplished brexit <- as i said, online petitions rarely accomplish anything | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and assets to intel agencies | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's partly what social control media does | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes lists of people | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and classifies them | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "self-checkout" | Mar 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "here," said the spies, "the interface works like this.... start typing family member and friends from elementary school" | Mar 30 11:20 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I don't have any insights into ReactOS, it's largely unimportant to me. | Mar 30 11:20 |
| matey | XRevan86 <- same here, just curious | Mar 30 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we'll give you "likes" to wank over..." | Mar 30 11:20 |
| *BTcoIn is now known as BTcoInk | Mar 30 11:20 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@k5ghkuun6w7re.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 11:20 | |
| matey | can hardly blame you for being as uninformed about them as i am | Mar 30 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: we have one reactos dev here | Mar 30 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | who said they'd welcome putin with flowers if or when he invades serbia | Mar 30 11:21 |
| BTcoInk | this channel is right leaned | Mar 30 11:21 |
| matey | rofl | Mar 30 11:21 |
| XRevan86 | Skimming through the website, it doesn't look like they've made any statement in any direction. | Mar 30 11:21 |
| matey | this channel definitely leans left to the earth itself | Mar 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | OS News did | Mar 30 11:22 |
| matey | but the earth is a bit wobbly | Mar 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of polish sites did | Mar 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and polish projects, distros, dev companies | Mar 30 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ says that the GPLv3 failed because it either forced companies to disarm or write their own software (which is usually too incompetent to even work at all, such as Apple SMBX) and face ridicule by people who need it to work, who will be forced to flee to something that still does work. | Mar 30 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say it's a success either way. | Mar 30 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apple losing access to Free Software doesn't hurt us, only them. | Mar 30 11:23 |
| matey | id mostly agree | Mar 30 11:23 |
| techrights-news | Theft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/consumers-pay-oil-ceos-refuse-testify-congress-about-soaring-prices | Mar 30 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As Consumers Pay, Oil CEOs Refuse to Testify to Congress About Soaring Prices | Mar 30 11:23 | |
| matey | Apple losing access to Free Software doesn't hurt us, only them. <- | Mar 30 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | The list of bugs in SMBX alone goes on and on. It is clearly not a replacement for Samba. It's designed so it looks like the Mac can still use SMB/CIFS. | Mar 30 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | But then it just goes ahead and has a stroke when you try it. | Mar 30 11:24 |
| matey | smbs | Mar 30 11:24 |
| techrights-news | Quit calling fakecoins "crypto". Crypto has nothing to do with that scam. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/climate-groups-say-planetary-impacts-crypto-mining-could-be-reduced-99 | Mar 30 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Climate Groups Say Planetary Impacts of Crypto Mining Could Be Reduced by 99% | Mar 30 11:24 | |
| DaemonFC | "Entire OS freezes because you tried to access a remote share with file thumbnails turned on." This is nice. | Mar 30 11:25 |
| matey | sounds like a windows bug | Mar 30 11:25 |
| matey | "it just works" | Mar 30 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | "Try to use a modern version of SMB/CIFS and kernel panic." | Mar 30 11:25 |
| matey | smbstemd | Mar 30 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Falls back to SMBv1, and Samba removes SMBv1 so the Mac cannot communicate with it. | Mar 30 11:25 |
| matey | heh | Mar 30 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | Samba: RAISE COMMUNICATIONS BARRIER! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! | Mar 30 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple may be floundering | Mar 30 11:26 |
| matey | broguht to you by the board of sfc | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but apple and the media are in spin mode | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder how many middle class savers have tied their savings to that bubble | Mar 30 11:26 |
| matey | apple may be floundering <- this will make it decidedly non-vegan | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are going to lose everything | Mar 30 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | There's only one reason to yank SMBv1 out of Samba. | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the rich investors have connectionsa | Mar 30 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | And that's to harass Mac users. | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | inside-trading | Mar 30 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, I think it's funnier than hell. | Mar 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they'll be the first to run away | Mar 30 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Because Samba still works with itself and with Windows. | Mar 30 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Those are what matter. | Mar 30 11:27 |
| techrights-news | A guide for developers on #HowTo convert XML files to JSON โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163134 | Mar 30 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide for developers on how to convert XML files to JSON | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:27 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Release Notes โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163135 | Mar 30 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Release Notes | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:27 | |
| techrights-news | โExtension Managerโ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163136 | Mar 30 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | โExtension Managerโ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:27 | |
| techrights-news | An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163137 | Mar 30 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:28 | |
| techrights-news | AlmaLinux vs Rocky Linux: Which One to Choose? โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163138 | Mar 30 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux vs Rocky Linux: Which One to Choose? | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:28 | |
| DaemonFC | By ditching old SMBv1 and uncommon extensions, they can force Apple to go back and fix SMBX when Apple was fine with calling what they had "done" -or- the Mac drops SMB support totally and has to stop pretending to be a real operating system on another front. | Mar 30 11:28 |
| techrights-news | 33 Excellent KDE Plasma Widgets (Updated 2022) โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163139 | Mar 30 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 33 Excellent KDE Plasma Widgets (Updated 2022) | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:28 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Jim "Buy Lehman Brothers Stock!" Cramer says Apple is fantastic. | Mar 30 11:29 |
| techrights-news | This talk โis titled โDistributing freedom: How package managers empower software users,โ and was presented at LibrePlanet 2022 by Sebastian Crane.โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/ | Mar 30 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | Techrights | Mar 30 11:29 | |
| matey | eh, it still wasnt a real os before it dropped flash support | Mar 30 11:29 |
| matey | one of the best things they ever did | Mar 30 11:29 |
| matey | for all the wrong reasons, like everything else they do | Mar 30 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Flash for Android was pretty terrible. | Mar 30 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't designed for devices. | Mar 30 11:30 |
| matey | it was designed for adobe hegemony | Mar 30 11:30 |
| matey | i hated it for the same | Mar 30 11:30 |
| matey | hey nice internet you have here, be a shame if we took it over on behalf of a single company | Mar 30 11:30 |
| matey | fuck adobe | Mar 30 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | Me when I go digging through an operating system: "Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhge!" *starts throwing shit out* | Mar 30 11:30 |
| matey | fuck anything that even looks like adobe | Mar 30 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | Most P2P networks still work. | Mar 30 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing the RIAA lawyers did was plow the road and get rid of the super shitty proprietary clients that harmed the networks. | Mar 30 11:31 |
| matey | Me when I go digging through an operating system: "Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhge!" *starts throwing shit out* <- everybody should do this | Mar 30 11:31 |
| matey | whats more, every os should facilitate doing it | Mar 30 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | They blew up Limewire. Gnutella still has Free clients. | Mar 30 11:32 |
| matey | /me cant believe gnutella gets away with the name | Mar 30 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | They blew up the various KAD network clients, but that's still there. | Mar 30 11:32 |
| matey | but then again you dont put it on food | Mar 30 11:32 |
| matey | at least not in any sense of trademark you dont | Mar 30 11:33 |
| matey | puppy linux / puppy chow <- totally different trademarks, different holders, different scopes (yes puppy linux is trademarked) | Mar 30 11:33 |
| matey | kauler holds it | Mar 30 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:29] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-TR, Jim "Buy Lehman Brothers Stock!" Cramer says Apple is fantastic. | Mar 30 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and IBM | Mar 30 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | or Red Hat | Mar 30 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | The reason I don't use legacy P2P networks is because the government likes to poison them. They put things like child pornography in there so they can bust people for it later and then everyone gets too scared that the new Spider Man movie is really CP or something. | Mar 30 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | When you use BitTorrent trackers, people can comment on the torrent and say what's truly in it. | Mar 30 11:34 |
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Mar 30 11:34 | |
| matey | then everyone gets too scared that the new Spider Man movie is really CP or something <- the way hollywood is these days i wouldnt put it past them | Mar 30 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would cause a scandal if they got caught | Mar 30 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | That's why they don't get caught. :) | Mar 30 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | There are pirate uploaders that are known never to put viruses and shit in their stuff. | Mar 30 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | But there's also people who come along and stuff viruses in it and pretend to be that uploader. | Mar 30 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | So you have to be really careful. | Mar 30 11:37 |
| matey | there needs to be a trusted list of hashes for pirated films | Mar 30 11:38 |
| matey | i realise how tricky that would be to maintain. | Mar 30 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | NFTs! | Mar 30 11:38 |
| matey | ROFL | Mar 30 11:38 |
| matey | finally a use for them | Mar 30 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would not work | Mar 30 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | because you have derivatives | Mar 30 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that alter the hashes | Mar 30 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. to dodge being caught by hollywood | Mar 30 11:39 |
| matey | you wouldnt trust the derivatives | Mar 30 11:39 |
| matey | the tricky part is maintaining the list | Mar 30 11:39 |
| matey | i would say its next to impossible | Mar 30 11:39 |
| matey | but next to and impossible arent the same thing | Mar 30 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, hello IRS! I would like to pay my NFT taxes. They are tokens that verify that this is the real FitGirl and that the new season of that TV show is NOT a guy fucking a horse....Please see the 8949 from my accountant as to their value. Thank you! | Mar 30 11:39 |
| matey | i consider the nft example to be more hilarious than practical | Mar 30 11:40 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163140 | Mar 30 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:40 | |
| matey | solving how to pirate films isnt my area of expertise or a priority of mine | Mar 30 11:40 |
| matey | but it would be nice | Mar 30 11:41 |
| matey | and it would only solve it long enough for the arms race to continue | Mar 30 11:42 |
| matey | either way i wish people would stop supporting hollywood (to the best of their ability) | Mar 30 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Apple TV's originals have been truly ho hum. | Mar 30 11:42 |
| techrights-news | Thunderbird 102 is Getting Several Exciting New Features! Here Are 7 of Them http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163137#comment-33235 | Mar 30 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:42 | |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen a single "must watch" thing on there. | Mar 30 11:43 |
| matey | /me has given up on tv | Mar 30 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | sane here | Mar 30 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's going the way of the music industry. | Mar 30 11:43 |
| matey | if it isnt free to watch and trivial to download i do not care. | Mar 30 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20+ years ago | Mar 30 11:43 |
| matey | if its got ads i do not care. | Mar 30 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | hollywood is embedded in everything | Mar 30 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | They were talking about having AIs write scripts based on what movies grossed the most money. | Mar 30 11:43 |
| matey | if it requires special equipment i do not care. | Mar 30 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC said netflix priced doubled in 5 years | Mar 30 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | So sooner or later it really will all be the same, and instead of having blackbusters, they'll have a bunch of retreads competing with each other for the crumbs. | Mar 30 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not check | Mar 30 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I heard they are hoking it AGAIN | Mar 30 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | with password sharing as their excuses | Mar 30 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | Netflix to DRM SERFS: YOU ARE PIRATES!!!! YOU WILL PAY FOR IT! | Mar 30 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, No, they're hiking it AND doing a trial run of "We caught you sharing passwords and that'll be another $4.". | Mar 30 11:45 |
| matey | NO MOVIE FOR YOU! | Mar 30 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah | Mar 30 11:45 |
| matey | COME BACK, ONE YEAR! | Mar 30 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you get punished twice for buying from "official" channels | Mar 30 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for software in russia | Mar 30 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | better to use WareZ and GameZ | Mar 30 11:46 |
| matey | in putlers russia, netflix watches you | Mar 30 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least the companies do not shut you out remoately | Mar 30 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who pay get cutt off | Mar 30 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who don't paint carry on | Mar 30 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | *don't pay | Mar 30 11:46 |
| matey | /me still thinks putlin is better | Mar 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:45] <matey> COME BACK, ONE YEAR! | Mar 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to have ALL seinfeld eps on my drive | Mar 30 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> those who don't paint carry on | Mar 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was ages ago | Mar 30 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Hitler painted, and look what ended up happening to him! | Mar 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so could watch them like 5-10 times, over the years... | Mar 30 11:47 |
| matey | everybody paints the piper | Mar 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | season is 22 or 24 iirc | Mar 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and episode can be 50mb | Mar 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 mins, coarse | Mar 30 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, There were video tapes capable of 1080p. | Mar 30 11:48 |
| matey | seinfeld was like snl, a lot of it was funny the first time and some of it is still really hilarious | Mar 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | one season, 1gb | Mar 30 11:48 |
| matey | and a lot of it was like "wtf is this, this is comedy?" | Mar 30 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | The reason they didn't go ahead with it was because it would be harder to make the DRM work, and it cost more than producing discs. | Mar 30 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | And there wouldn't be as many patents. | Mar 30 11:48 |
| matey | but on average, id say seinfeld was funnier than snl | Mar 30 11:49 |
| matey | maybe | Mar 30 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | An analog format with 1080p would therefore be unacceptable. | Mar 30 11:49 |
| matey | snl had some entire years (maybe a decade) of being unfunny | Mar 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the laptop screen was 800pc across | Mar 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and iirc 640 vert | Mar 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you don't need 1080p or HD | Mar 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | this was 20 years ago, I was a poor student | Mar 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | One of the main reasons I went ahead and bought a DVD player early on was because you could get better results copying to a blank VHS than using a VHS tape as the source. | Mar 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | MacroVision only worked on VCRs with automatic gain control. | Mar 30 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | who had already given away the TV to a friend's mom | Mar 30 11:50 |
| matey | "lorne, we wore out the laugh track" "okay well a new laugh tracks not in the budget, switch to the track of cricket noises" | Mar 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | I had several VCRs without it. | Mar 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | So I could copy as many tapes as I wanted to. | Mar 30 11:50 |
| matey | "why do we have a track of cricket noises?" | Mar 30 11:51 |
| matey | "are you kidding? oh, you werent here in 1993" | Mar 30 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | VCRs are pretty reliable. | Mar 30 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they last long | Mar 30 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the more modern things last NOT long | Mar 30 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | The main problem, eating tapes, is caused by letting the heads become dirty. | Mar 30 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | take SSD for example | Mar 30 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Which you can fix with a cheap cleaner tape. | Mar 30 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | keep them off the power for a few years | Mar 30 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | optical disks | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | versus magnetic | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | or FILM | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | for photos | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | versus some iPHone with oddball port | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | like firesomething | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we have webp | Mar 30 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, they have a bad port of Firefox. | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | will that outlast gulag? | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | who knows... | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of old image formats | Mar 30 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot even open them | Mar 30 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Washington Post: "We support every browser on iPhones.". | Mar 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot even tell you what they're called | Mar 30 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | Because iPhones don't have real browsers. | Mar 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the suffic | Mar 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I forgot | Mar 30 11:53 |
| matey | you can have it in any colour as long as its black | Mar 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I means physical port | Mar 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | take iphone 1 in 10 years from now | Mar 30 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | Lightning. | Mar 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | your task if to get images out of it | Mar 30 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | no USB | Mar 30 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | no application | Mar 30 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was simpler with negatives of photos | Mar 30 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy couldn't reset an iPhone 8 last night. | Mar 30 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | He kept wondering why I couldn't install iTunes to reset his phone. | Mar 30 11:54 |
| matey | /me wonders why reset isnt a built-in feature | Mar 30 11:54 |
| matey | but then its apple, so | Mar 30 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | It is on Android. | Mar 30 11:54 |
| matey | ... | Mar 30 11:55 |
| matey | oh right | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple never needs resetting | Mar 30 11:55 |
| matey | i thought you meant his iphone was | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | that might confuse the user ;-) | Mar 30 11:55 |
| matey | that would be an interesting trick | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reset button makes them look less reliable | Mar 30 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, From what I can gather iTunes partially works on Wine. | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | salesman: it's perfect, you will never need to reset it | Mar 30 11:55 |
| matey | the new iphone 15, now with no reset button | Mar 30 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | But it's a real bitch to install and nobody said if resetting an iPhone worked or not. | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you do, it's time to buy a new one | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "upgrade" | Mar 30 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | So I decided it wasn't worth the hassle. | Mar 30 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | more CPU core and RAM, same shitty "apps" | Mar 30 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: hard reset | Mar 30 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | remove batteried | Mar 30 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | put them back in | Mar 30 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh wait | Mar 30 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's soldered in OMG | Mar 30 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 30 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | shit shit shit | Mar 30 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you ALSO lose the warranty | Mar 30 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | the Apple genius bar won't serve you drinks | Mar 30 11:57 |
| matey | /me thinks apple is secretly run by sinead oconner | Mar 30 11:57 |
| matey | it explains everything | Mar 30 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the guy at Batteries Plus can replace iPhone batteries. But the battery health app says "Not an original Apple part!". | Mar 30 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | ABANDON SHIP ABANDON SHIP! | Mar 30 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | NOT AN APPLE PART! | Mar 30 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: sinead oconner. think different. | Mar 30 11:58 |
| matey | too different@ | Mar 30 11:58 |
| matey | too different! | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: after she shave her head she did the hammer throw | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | at ICBM | Mar 30 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | Fight the real enemy! *rips up the Pope* | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ICBM self-nuked on impact | Mar 30 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | And that's the last anyone saw of her. | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "think different." versus "think." | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | then comes microsoft | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bribe." | Mar 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | new Microsot(r): "bribe different" | Mar 30 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | bribe "Linux" | Mar 30 11:59 |
| matey | that was anya major but i think you were making a joke | Mar 30 11:59 |
| schestowitz | sinead iConner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8 | Mar 30 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8 | Mar 30 12:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | 1984 Apple's First Macintosh Commercial - Invidious | Mar 30 12:00 | |
| matey | shes british, and apart from throwing the hammer in the apple ad she was in the elton john video for nikita | Mar 30 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Ronald Reagan joked about the Soviet Union that "An American can go in, and bang his fist on the president's desk, and say 'I don't like the way you're running this country!'". So the Russian said, "Oh yeah, I can do that too. I can go into Gorbachev's office, bang my fist on the desk, and say 'I don't like the way Reagan is running his country!'". | Mar 30 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | irish | Mar 30 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, in reality...... | Mar 30 12:01 |
| matey | iConner <- oh, ok | Mar 30 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think | Mar 30 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | iRish | Mar 30 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry | Mar 30 12:01 |
| matey | yes oconner is irish | Mar 30 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Secret Service agents with Uzis have to go everywhere with the president and he has a car that's really a tank. | Mar 30 12:01 |
| matey | anya major is british | Mar 30 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Because no matter who the president is, 60% of Americans don't like him very much. | Mar 30 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a bad system | Mar 30 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Reagan should have mentioned that someone shot him. Maybe he forgot. | Mar 30 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 30 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no person can be elected to do what's right | Mar 30 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | without being assassinated or ruined at nomination | Mar 30 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | or libeled by corporate media owned by bezos and gates | Mar 30 12:02 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Mar 30 12:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Everyone is rattling on about how Biden's "approval rating" is 42%. They say "failed presidency". | Mar 30 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, most people didn't like Bush and he got re-elected. | Mar 30 12:03 |
| techrights-news | Clearview loves Putin's invasion. It helps distract from Clearview's crimes. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/ukraine-government-confirms-it-is-using-clearview-ai-to-identify-dead-russian-soldiers/ | Mar 30 12:03 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: techdirt.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/ukraine-government-confirms-it-is-using-clearview-ai-to-identify-dead-russian-soldiers/ | Mar 30 12:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ukraine Government Confirms It Is Using Clearview AI To Identifyโฆ Dead Russian Soldiers? | Techdirt | Mar 30 12:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Most people didn't approve of Obama, he got re-elected. Same with Clinton. They lost control of Congress, but they were re-elected. | Mar 30 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | Why is that? | Mar 30 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: failing countries are like that | Mar 30 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a good metric | Mar 30 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | when the person in power is so disliked | Mar 30 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it means direct democracy is fake | Mar 30 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | The presidential elections have never been a direct democracy here. | Mar 30 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me check something | Mar 30 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will check presidential approval rates by country | Mar 30 12:04 |
| BTcoInk | direct democracy is online pools | Mar 30 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | They are state elections with an electoral college, which does not allocate representation proportionally. | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | assumption is, north europe ranks high | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | iceland even kicked its PM out | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating | Mar 30 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United States presidential approval rating - Wikipedia | Mar 30 12:05 | |
| *matey (~matey@mmg5z3yijp9ug.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 12:05 | |
| schestowitz | Trump was worst ever | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | 40% | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | average | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | inc. the GOP-leaning polls | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | Truman was 22 | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | lowest by poll | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | bush was 90% in highest among them | Mar 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | 10 days after 9/11 | Mar 30 12:07 |
| BTcoInk | putin is loved in russia he alowas gets reelected they even need to change the constitution because of that | Mar 30 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | Truman was the last that could have ran for unlimited terms. | Mar 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | see? some people win other than the terrorists | Mar 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | terrorists and war criminals | Mar 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | shared gain | Mar 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | second was his dad | Mar 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | 89% after gulf war | Mar 30 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | The two term limit wasn't added until the 1950s. | Mar 30 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | It was always an informal standard before then, and nobody really abused it badly until FDR. | Mar 30 12:08 |
| schestowitz | but we need to find stats for other countries | Mar 30 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | And he was becoming a dictator, and only left office because he died. | Mar 30 12:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe not in English edition of wikipedia | Mar 30 12:09 |
| matey | and only left office because he died. <- to be fair it was a very good reason | Mar 30 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | Trump and Biden have certainly tried to act like dictators. | Mar 30 12:09 |
| schestowitz | https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/ | Mar 30 12:09 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: morningconsult.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/ | Mar 30 12:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-morningconsult.com | Global Leader Approval Ratings | Mar 30 12:09 | |
| DaemonFC | But they've been cut down by the courts. | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Wow, Borisnaro 35% | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | lower than Bolsonaro | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | and Biden | Mar 30 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | FAILED DEMOCRACY! | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | yup | Mar 30 12:10 |
| matey | failed government | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | but poverty isn't as bad | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | as the US | Mar 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Modi 76% | Mar 30 12:10 |
| matey | that cant be a real number | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | 65% in Mexico | Mar 30 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Have you considered that most people in the US don't care about the "Challenging Street People". | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.gallup.com/analytics/315824/gallup-global-leadership-center.aspx | Mar 30 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Global Leadership Approval Center | Gallup.com | Mar 30 12:11 | |
| matey | they certainly dont | Mar 30 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ steps over them like everyone else in that city. | Mar 30 12:11 |
| matey | out of curiosity what should he do? | Mar 30 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | They have plenty of practice stepping over things with over 20,000 complaints of shit on the sidewalk per year. | Mar 30 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | Vote out London Breed. | Mar 30 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | Corrupt corporate hack. | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | there should be 2 million complains | Mar 30 12:12 |
| matey | fair enough | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | about literal shits who live there | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Mozilla CEO | Mar 30 12:13 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Untrue | Mar 30 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't judge people by the smell | Mar 30 12:13 |
| matey | if most people cared about challenging street people they wouldnt be street people | Mar 30 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | When the mayor doesn't even say homeless and starts using "Challenging Street People", you know what they're doing there. Right? | Mar 30 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | Dehumanization. | Mar 30 12:13 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: What's the tech content here | Mar 30 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | street people | Mar 30 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | It no longer acknowledges that they're homeless. | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "they came from the street" | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | "they belong in the street" | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can't take the street of of the man | Mar 30 12:14 |
| matey | What's the tech content here <- some of them have smartphones | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if you take the man out of the street | Mar 30 12:14 |
| BTcoInk | the street is their home | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, in the group blackstreet (gospel/r&b) there was one singer called "street" | Mar 30 12:14 |
| matey | denystreet | Mar 30 12:14 |
| BTcoInk | many are car people | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they adopted the "slur" | Mar 30 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | They have to staff the toilets to make sure the Challenging Street People don't sleep in the port-a-potty. | Mar 30 12:15 |
| matey | thats a good thing | Mar 30 12:15 |
| matey | no one should sleep in one of those | Mar 30 12:15 |
| matey | on the benches okay | Mar 30 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the uk they started charging to use publicm toilets | Mar 30 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are no longer public | Mar 30 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago runs a big homeless camp and a mental health hospital. It's called the County Jail. | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that denies access to people who might end up "going" elsewhere | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's a bad approach | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms says we should refuse to use these | Mar 30 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | They gutted the budget for mental health clinics and homeless shelters. | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never paid I think | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne did, I never did | Mar 30 12:16 |
| BTcoInk | everyone agrees the shiter sould be private | Mar 30 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | So they commit petty crimes so they go to jail and get fed and don't freeze to death. | Mar 30 12:16 |
| matey | rms says we should refuse to use these <- ive been refusing to use pay toilets for a few decades | Mar 30 12:16 |
| matey | basically since the first one i ever saw | Mar 30 12:16 |
| BTcoInk | public shiting is a crime | Mar 30 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> rms says we should refuse to use these <- ive been refusing to use pay toilets for a few decades | Mar 30 12:16 |
| matey | i was like "seriously, wtf" | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it's right there next to "spikes" | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | to prevent them sleeping in .... places | Mar 30 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | I think the point of "San Francisco Pit Stop" is that people don't have to pay so they won't just shit on the sidewalk. | Mar 30 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, people pay....taxes. | Mar 30 12:17 |
| matey | yeah some people removed a bunch of armrests because they were really just anti-sleeping features | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:16] <matey> i was like "seriously, wtf" | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | planes (airtlines) did the same | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or considered it | Mar 30 12:17 |
| mjg59_ | It's a good thing San Francisco has rolled out a whole bunch of toilets you don't have to pay for | Mar 30 12:17 |
| matey | so they unbolted and stole the armrests from the becnhes as good samaritans | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | causing an outcry | Mar 30 12:17 |
| matey | i thought it was prettty epic | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | first they take the meals away | Mar 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | then the tea and sandwich | Mar 30 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | If it bothered them that much, they'd reform the laws there to end the housing crisis. They only keep the housing crisis going so people like mjg59_ will pay $800,000 for a tiny house. | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | then you can't even "go" | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bring diapers" | Mar 30 12:18 |
| matey | of course it would also be epic to give them a place indoors to sleep | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | (that escalated quickly!) | Mar 30 12:18 |
| matey | but even removing the armrests was a good thing | Mar 30 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's deliberate so they can say "Look at me! I'm important! I can AFFORD to have a home here!". | Mar 30 12:18 |
| BTcoInk | if you dont eat you dont need to shit | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: maybe because of "big people" | Mar 30 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | "We made a crisis so we could live in it and laugh at the challenging street people!" | Mar 30 12:19 |
| matey | matey: maybe because of "big people" <- no i dont think so | Mar 30 12:19 |
| mjg59_ | Unclear what the desired mechanism here is | Mar 30 12:19 |
| mjg59_ | Am I supposed to just put a toilet outside my door | Mar 30 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Your tax dollars at work. | Mar 30 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago doesn't have to do this to avoid shit in the streets. | Mar 30 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | The more liberal your city is, the more freaks and assholes live there. | Mar 30 12:20 |
| techrights-news | Suppressed reporting, suppressed subject (not convenient to media owners) https://www.projectcensored.org/lack-of-research-on-rise-of-suicides-among-asian-american-youth/ | Mar 30 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/lack-of-research-on-rise-of-suicides-among-asian-american-youth/ ) | Mar 30 12:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | Pretty soon you can't even use a toilet. | Mar 30 12:20 |
| matey | <mjg59_> Unclear what the desired mechanism here is <- basically the problem is being liberal | Mar 30 12:20 |
| matey | everything else is commentary | Mar 30 12:20 |
| techrights-news | Crackers, not hackers https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/ | Mar 30 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | His Royal Hineyness. | Mar 30 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Hackers Gaining Power of Subpoena Via Fake โEmergency Data Requestsโ โ Krebs on Security | Mar 30 12:21 | |
| mjg59_ | Shit, I hadn't realised that marriage equality meant more people living on the streets | Mar 30 12:21 |
| matey | theres always something new to learn here | Mar 30 12:21 |
| mjg59_ | "Crackers, not hackers" this disagrees with the content of the original 80s version of the Jargon File before ESR took over | Mar 30 12:22 |
| techrights-news | Discord is terrible for many LEGITIMATE reasons https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/the-latest-moral-panic-focuses-on-discord/ | Mar 30 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Latest Moral Panic Focuses On Discord | Techdirt | Mar 30 12:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Everywhere the liberals go, they screw up the economy and raise taxes, but while at first glance it looks like they're stupid, they have a good reason for it. They don't actually want poor black people living anywhere near them. | Mar 30 12:22 |
| matey | <mjg59_> "Crackers, not hackers" this disagrees with <- do you consider it bunk? | Mar 30 12:22 |
| mjg59_ | The definition of "hacker" at the time included what later versions called "cracker" | Mar 30 12:22 |
| matey | i always considered it wishful thinking | Mar 30 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | They reckon if they drive the cost of living sky high, they can just say the right things and not have to admit they're racists. | Mar 30 12:22 |
| matey | a prescriptive distinction | Mar 30 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | The left in this country is the most racist group there is. | Mar 30 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | demonstrably false | Mar 30 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | There's plenty of black people living in red states, because nobody is trying to force them out of their homes by taking their jobs away and raising taxes and rents. | Mar 30 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are clkassist | Mar 30 12:23 |
| matey | i find DaemonFC considerably less offensive then rush limbaugh | Mar 30 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | not racist | Mar 30 12:23 |
| matey | but some of the overlap is amusing | Mar 30 12:23 |
| mjg59_ | From version 1.10 of the Jargon File: "6. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries to | Mar 30 12:24 |
| mjg59_ | discover information by poking around. Hence "password hacker" | Mar 30 12:24 |
| *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) | Mar 30 12:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | but many poor people belond to ethnic groups and immigrant families | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | thg right is tribalist | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not classist | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the classicism extends to tribalism | Mar 30 12:24 |
| matey | /me finds the term "tribalist" extremely unfortunate | Mar 30 12:24 |
| matey | the right isnt classist? | Mar 30 12:24 |
| matey | /me falls over laughing | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-racial-injustice-jared-kushner-d7cf670c43a41dc941e6ac21c0e683de | Mar 30 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | Kushner says Black people must 'want to be successful' | AP News | Mar 30 12:25 | |
| DaemonFC | The problem here is that the right just sounds like a bunch of assholes but the left puts in policies that drive black people out or harass them with laws that are designed to send them to prison. | Mar 30 12:25 |
| matey | im not concerned about tribes being offended, its a tragedy of mischaracterisation | Mar 30 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrat gun laws in Illinois.....90% of the people sent to prison are black. | Mar 30 12:25 |
| schestowitz | https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/26/jared-kushner-criticized-saying-black-people-need-want-successful/6043088002/ | Mar 30 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Jared Kushner says Black people need to 'want to be successful' | Mar 30 12:25 | |
| matey | The problem here is that the right just sounds like a bunch of assholes but the left puts in policies that drive black people out or harass them with laws that are designed to send them to prison. <- the so-called left is largely populated with hypocrites, its true | Mar 30 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | When white people are found with an illegal gun, there's court diversions and misdemeanor versions of the offense all of a sudden. | Mar 30 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | What do you know? | Mar 30 12:26 |
| matey | left opportunists keep the left from doing legitimately left things | Mar 30 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:24] <matey> /me falls over laughing | Mar 30 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | as long as that class is of "their kind" | Mar 30 12:26 |
| matey | from a campaign standpoint thats very true | Mar 30 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, you won't even need a gun permit for open carry soon. | Mar 30 12:26 |
| matey | but campaign is just another word for bullshit | Mar 30 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | So nobody will be arrested or sent to prison. | Mar 30 12:26 |
| matey | they USE the lower class during elections | Mar 30 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is happy with 9 out of 10 prisoners being black. | Mar 30 12:26 |
| matey | that doesnt make them any less classist | Mar 30 12:27 |
| matey | its like saying that slaveowners werent racist because they had mostly black workers. | Mar 30 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | The left is pretty much delighted by human suffering. | Mar 30 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | It makes them feel more accomplished. | Mar 30 12:27 |
| matey | "look how diverse our workforce is!" | Mar 30 12:27 |
| techrights-news | "As the New York Times reported in 2015, Schrems was a 24-year-old student studying at the Santa Clara School of Law in California, when lawyers from Silicon Valley came to talk to students about their companiesโ approach to privacy." https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-a-few-thoughtless-words-about-privacy-led-to-huge-political-and-economic-headaches-for-the-us-and-eu/ | Mar 30 12:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | How a Few Thoughtless Words about Privacy Led to Huge Political and Economic Headaches for the US and EU political and economic headache | Mar 30 12:27 | |
| DaemonFC | That's the only reason you'd live in San Francisco. | Mar 30 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's about the snob aspect of it. | Mar 30 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm glad I have $800,000 for a tiny house with no land. Unlike those Challenging Street People!" | Mar 30 12:28 |
| matey | hatred of the working class is extremely common among the bourgiosie | Mar 30 12:29 |
| matey | but what dfc is complaining about is something marx and lenin said routinely | Mar 30 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | That really is why the left hates states like Indiana. | Mar 30 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | Almost anyone in Indiana who gets a job can have a house. A nice one. | Mar 30 12:29 |
| techrights-news | Condรฉ Nast should just die already, along with its lying Microsoft rags and Reddit https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/prestige-doesnt-pay-bills-conde-nast-workers-announce-new-union | Mar 30 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Prestige Doesn't Pay the Bills': Condรฉ Nast Workers Announce New Union | Mar 30 12:30 | |
| DaemonFC | I've known people working at convenience stores who have an apartment 10 times bigger than one you have to share with 5 other men in San Francisco. | Mar 30 12:30 |
| techrights-news | More bailout money for Microsoft https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/ukraine-war-cannot-justify-bidens-too-damn-high-pentagon-budget see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Mar 30 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Ukraine War Cannot Justify Biden's Too-Damn-High Pentagon Budget | William Hartung | Mar 30 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayersโ Expense | Techrights | Mar 30 12:31 | |
| matey | to share with 5 other men in San Francisco. <- im pretty sure some of that was voluntary, particularly the "5 other men" part | Mar 30 12:31 |
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| DaemonFC | No it's not. | Mar 30 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes people are made to delude themselves | Mar 30 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | You look for apartments in San Francisco and you get "$1,500" apartments, and then find out they want you to share 300 square feet with three roommates and it's really $6,000 a month for the apartment. | Mar 30 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | to compel to spin as voluntary something that is not | Mar 30 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm happy to have just one room" | Mar 30 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm happy to live in SF" | Mar 30 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I actualluy am OK with this job" | Mar 30 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I don't need a bath" | Mar 30 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they call it sour grapes | Mar 30 12:34 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> to compel to spin as voluntary something that is not <- no, it was a cheap joke about the scene in sf | Mar 30 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | not limited to foxes in grapsvines | Mar 30 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: well, DaemonFC is gay | Mar 30 12:34 |
| matey | yes i know | Mar 30 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I would not make unfair assumptions about intent | Mar 30 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu used to include "The Fox and the Sour Grapes" as a demonstration of ODF. | Mar 30 12:35 |
| matey | and i thought he might find a small amount of humour in it | Mar 30 12:35 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> so I would not make unfair assumptions <- youre forgetting that he has a sense of humour | Mar 30 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ironically, I think that was while mjg59_ was there. | Mar 30 12:35 |
| techrights-news | "The first pirate site blocking order in Canada remains in place. Internet provider TekSavvy petitioned the Supreme Court to hear the case but this request was denied." https://torrentfreak.com/canadas-supreme-court-denies-teksavvys-site-blocking-appeal-220329/ | Mar 30 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canada's Supreme Court Denies TekSavvy's Site Blocking Appeal * TorrentFreak | Mar 30 12:35 | |
| techrights-news | "Russia-based game developer Four Quarters is against the war in Ukraine but in common with other companies, still feels the effects of sanctions." https://torrentfreak.com/russian-loop-hero-dev-approves-piracy-after-sanctions-hobble-steam-220329/ | Mar 30 12:36 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/russian-loop-hero-dev-approves-piracy-after-sanctions-hobble-steam-220329/ | Mar 30 12:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russian 'Loop Hero' Dev Approves Piracy After Sanctions Hobble Steam * TorrentFreak | Mar 30 12:36 | |
| matey | also it wasnt an assumption. that would imply it was said seriously | Mar 30 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | "I don't like Indiana and their low cost of living. Everyone there is probably a rube anyway." *laughs in $20 coffee* | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: right, sorry for misunderstanding | Mar 30 12:36 |
| matey | no worries at all | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I had coffee with irish cream minutes ago | Mar 30 12:37 |
| matey | it was a dumb joke besides | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cost? about 30 pence | Mar 30 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | 30 of Mike Pence? | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. liquor | Mar 30 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | What, are they coming out of a vat now? | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cal him mike pants | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | pants here means "rubbish" | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "this thing was pants.." | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media tells people to payn for "ambiance" | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | shopping malls and coffee shops | Mar 30 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> i find DaemonFC considerably less offensive then rush limbaugh | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | most coffee shops are not plesant | Mar 30 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | I never listened to Rush Limbaugh. | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you live in council housing | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | BUT... | Mar 30 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Jerry Doyle had a talk radio show for a while. | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who go there are NOT poor | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they pretend to be rich | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but are not poor eirher | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is no reason for them to go there | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | their kitchen is a lot nicer | Mar 30 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | Limbaugh was a Republican. Doyle criticized Romney and supported Ron Paul. | Mar 30 12:39 |
| matey | Jerry Doyle had a talk radio show for a while. <- from b5? | Mar 30 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, him. | Mar 30 12:39 |
| matey | i knew he was republican | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's all "fasshen" and lyfestaille" | Mar 30 12:39 |
| matey | also wasnt he married to the blonde psycorps officer? | Mar 30 12:40 |
| matey | in the show he had a crush, but in real life | Mar 30 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Yes he was, for a while. | Mar 30 12:40 |
| matey | she was pretty amazing for a blonde | Mar 30 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | They wrote her out of the show. | Mar 30 12:40 |
| matey | reminded me of cybil shepherd-- in some ways even better looking | Mar 30 12:40 |
| matey | they sure did, but why? | Mar 30 12:41 |
| techrights-news | The other Ginni who supports the Orange Nazi (not the Ginni from ICBM, Rometty) https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/clarence-thomas-should-resign-and-ginni-thomas-should-be-prosecuted https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/29/ginni_thomas_clarence_thomas_democratic_elections | Mar 30 12:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Clarence Thomas Should Resign and Ginni Thomas Should Be Prosecuted | Thom Hartmann | Mar 30 12:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Ginni & Clarence Thomas vs. Democracy: He Sided with Trump in Court While She Backed Coup Attempt | Democracy Now! | Mar 30 12:41 | |
| DaemonFC | It turned out that the Psi Corps implanted a fake personality in her and that was the one everyone knew. | Mar 30 12:41 |
| matey | no i know the storyline | Mar 30 12:41 |
| matey | i mean what was the reason they wrote her out | Mar 30 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. | Mar 30 12:41 |
| matey | oh okay | Mar 30 12:41 |
| matey | talia winters | Mar 30 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | I call it the Babylon 5 Curse, though, what happened to the people who acted in the show. | Mar 30 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them died shortly thereafter, way too young too. | Mar 30 12:42 |
| matey | yeah no kidding | Mar 30 12:42 |
| matey | poor zathras | Mar 30 12:42 |
| techrights-news | The corporatisation of "science(TM)" https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/university-climate-research-fossil-fuels/ | Mar 30 12:43 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: thenation.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/university-climate-research-fossil-fuels/ | Mar 30 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Climate Research Shouldnโt Be Funded by Fossil Fuel Companies | The Nation | Mar 30 12:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Nobody listen to zathras. | Mar 30 12:43 |
| matey | zathras have a sad life. probably have a sad death too | Mar 30 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | He talks to dirt. Dirt sometimes have bugs. Bugs listen. | Mar 30 12:43 |
| matey | i think if elmo gets old enough he will sound exactly like zathras | Mar 30 12:43 |
| techrights-news | "Was it all a dream? In the harsh light of 2022, the early years of my time working at BuzzFeedโthe boozy launch parties of each new vertical, the iPads distributed as holiday swag, the taco Tuesdays" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/buzzfeed-news-layoffs-journalism/ | Mar 30 12:44 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: thenation.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/buzzfeed-news-layoffs-journalism/ | Mar 30 12:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | BuzzFeed Doesnโt Deserve Its Newsroom | The Nation | Mar 30 12:44 | |
| matey | elmo likes tickles. no one tickles elmo anymore. elmo was happy. elmo have sad life. | Mar 30 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Motorcycle accident, died, 49. | Mar 30 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | They are death traps. | Mar 30 12:44 |
| techrights-news | "Last week, the EU and the US announced something important that sounds pretty boring โ a new โprivacy shieldโ agreement" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/eu-us-say-theyve-agreed-to-a-new-privacy-shield-that-doesnt-seem-to-deal-with-any-of-the-problems-of-the-old-one/ | Mar 30 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU/US Say Theyโve Agreed To A New Privacy Shieldโฆ That Doesnโt Seem To Deal With Any Of The Problems Of The Old One | Techdirt | Mar 30 12:44 | |
| DaemonFC | And most people who buy them are in their 40s. | Mar 30 12:44 |
| matey | its sort of like a game of russian roulette that can get you from a to-- maybe b | Mar 30 12:45 |
| techrights-news | Maybe they just don't like people https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/as-scrutiny-of-law-enforcement-increases-legislators-are-trying-to-criminalize-filming-of-police-officers/ | Mar 30 12:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As Scrutiny Of Law Enforcement Increases, Legislators Are Trying To Criminalize Filming Of Police Officers | Techdirt | Mar 30 12:45 | |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't ride a bicycle in the Chicago region. | Mar 30 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Too many illegal Mexicans. | Mar 30 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Hit and run. | Mar 30 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Every goddamned day. | Mar 30 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | " illegal Mexicans"? | Mar 30 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | Do you have to be " illegal Mexicans" to hit a cyclist? | Mar 30 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it seems to be "Illegal Mexican hit and run" Groundhog Day around here. | Mar 30 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a principle | Mar 30 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | undocumented residents are LESS likely to commit such offenses | Mar 30 12:47 |
| mjg59_ | 12:35 < DaemonFC> Ironically, I think that was while mjg59_ was there. | Mar 30 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Well, not necessarily. | Mar 30 12:48 |
| mjg59_ | ? | Mar 30 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they have more to lose | Mar 30 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | THen why is it in the news CONSTANTLY? | Mar 30 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Fox? | Mar 30 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost always a Mexican. | Mar 30 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | Lake and McHenry Scanner or WGN. | Mar 30 12:48 |
| mjg59_ | I didn't live in SF in that timeframe, and I was never a Cnonical employee, so ? | Mar 30 12:48 |
| *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 12:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Lake and McHenry Scanner more aggressively posts mugshots than WGN. | Mar 30 12:49 |
| techrights-news | "Billionaires purposefully don't take incomesโthey borrow against their wealth to fund their lifestyles (buy, borrow, and die.)" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/manchin-blasted-opposing-bidens-plan-tax-us-billionaires | Mar 30 12:49 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: commondreams.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/manchin-blasted-opposing-bidens-plan-tax-us-billionaires | Mar 30 12:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Manchin Blasted for Opposing Biden's Plan to Tax US Billionaires | Mar 30 12:49 | |
| DaemonFC | WGN follows the Coulter's Law, whereby the longer it takes them to mention race or produce a mugshot, the less likely the offender is white. | Mar 30 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/coulters-law/ | Mar 30 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coulter's Law Meaning & Origin | Slang by Dictionary.com | Mar 30 12:50 | |
| techrights-news | Paradox: security and buzzwords like IoShit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-securing-internet-things | Mar 30 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Securing the Internet of Things | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 30 12:50 | |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz-TR: So are channel norms that I'm just accused of stuff that, well, is clearly not me? | Mar 30 12:51 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GEVAE3EYoOg&t=144 <- THen why is it in the news CONSTANTLY? | Mar 30 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Arabs" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - Invidious | Mar 30 12:51 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Ann Coulter much, but she's right. | Mar 30 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | If the alleged offender was white, there's a mugshot right away. | Mar 30 12:51 |
| matey | that I'm just accused of stuff that, well, is clearly not me? <- i think of it as a running comedy routine | Mar 30 12:51 |
| techrights-news | Window Snyder is a Microsofter. Why does the EFF boost Microsofters as if they're security experts? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-securing-internet-things EFF increasingly a loss cause. Also a Microsoft booster. http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ | Mar 30 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights | Mar 30 12:51 | |
| DaemonFC | If not, it just says "three teenagers" or something. | Mar 30 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | When the news just says "four teenagers carjacked someone", and there's no mugshot, it's code. | Mar 30 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | *lost cause | Mar 30 12:52 |
| matey | wrong timestamp | Mar 30 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | It means they want to report the police blotter but not outrage Jesse Jackson. | Mar 30 12:52 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GEVAE3EYoOg&t=114 | Mar 30 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Arabs" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - Invidious | Mar 30 12:53 | |
| matey | the whole video is good of course | Mar 30 12:53 |
| techrights-news | Tax on 95 Percent of Corporate Windfall Profits https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-wants-wwii-style-tax-on-95-percent-of-corporate-windfall-profits/ | Mar 30 12:57 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: truthout.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-wants-wwii-style-tax-on-95-percent-of-corporate-windfall-profits/ | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Bernie Sanders Wants WWII-Style Tax on 95 Percent of Corporate Windfall Profits | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| techrights-news | SweatshopZome https://truthout.org/articles/alabama-amazon-workers-were-forced-to-work-as-mysterious-gas-filled-warehouse/ | Mar 30 12:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: truthout.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/alabama-amazon-workers-were-forced-to-work-as-mysterious-gas-filled-warehouse/ | Mar 30 12:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Alabama Amazon Workers Were Forced to Work as Mysterious Gas Filled Warehouse | Mar 30 12:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR | *Zone | Mar 30 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a new name fore bezoscorp | Mar 30 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | although it does not cover business operations like AWS | Mar 30 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "web" "services" | Mar 30 12:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโ โโโโโ โโ โโโ โ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 21.46 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 65.15โ swarm size (avg): 274.45 โฒ | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | so-called 'services'... | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it goes down | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they suspend you | Mar 30 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon Web Outages. | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they do price hikes | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | etc. | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | AWOL | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | Amazon Web Outage LOL | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | last year techrights had better uptime than aws | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode has better uptime than slack | Mar 30 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Jean Marc Valin left Mozilla.....for Amazon Web Outages. | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | in spite of all the turebulence | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for libera chat | Mar 30 13:00 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> last year techrights had better uptime than aws <- even with the countless ddos attacks? | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: many from ICBM/Red Hat move to AWS | Mar 30 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if he was a victim of Mitchell or just got out ahead of it. | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | LOADS | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | even managers | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they move quietly | Mar 30 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: yes | Mar 30 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | we didn't even have many ddos attacks last year | Mar 30 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines had the issues | Mar 30 13:01 |
| matey | oh | Mar 30 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | we wrote a program to mitigate | Mar 30 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might even be in git | Mar 30 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | IBM: Let us terrorize and demoralize you with persistent layoffs and job interviews to see if you get laid off this time. Also, here's a pay cut. | Mar 30 13:01 |
| matey | yeah i recall when you started testing it | Mar 30 13:01 |
| *schestowitz-TR checks | Mar 30 13:01 | |
| DaemonFC | NPR: IBM is doing well! | Mar 30 13:01 |
| matey | basically like fail2ban except for https | Mar 30 13:02 |
| matey | f2b is for ssh | Mar 30 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The Catholic Church is treating their employees like IBM does. | Mar 30 13:02 |
| matey | plus with a timeout | Mar 30 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's terrified if she files partial unemployment due to the cut hours that they'll fire her. | Mar 30 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, it is in git | Mar 30 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's illegal, but we know what the labor laws are like in America. | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | under sbin and sbin-tm | Mar 30 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | It may be illegal, but good luck with that! | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: no, more like "attack mode" | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | on and off depending on load | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and on timers | Mar 30 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | They're like anyone else. They warn if you bring in a labor union, they'll fire everybody. | Mar 30 13:03 |
| matey | /me figures its basically like fail2ban, except for https and with a timeout | Mar 30 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | So nobody risks it, because individually, they need a paycheck every week more than they need pie in the sky from a labor union. | Mar 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are manu union-bustinmg methods | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | EPO tried many | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they're outwitted by EPO staff reps | Mar 30 13:05 |
| BTcoInk | DaemonFC is a chatbot | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and union leaders | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so far... | Mar 30 13:05 |
| matey | bot calling the kettle black | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the kettle is deny | Mar 30 13:06 |
| matey | /me coughs | Mar 30 13:06 |
| matey | i was just going to say | Mar 30 13:06 |
| matey | "deny" | Mar 30 13:06 |
| BTcoInk | wtf that means? | Mar 30 13:06 |
| matey | beauty | Mar 30 13:06 |
| matey | now you dont follow | Mar 30 13:06 |
| techrights-news | SCOTUS: the questions OFF the table https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/no-corporate-law-and-power-questions-for-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson/ | Mar 30 13:06 |
| BTcoInk | you a bot too? | Mar 30 13:06 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/no-corporate-law-and-power-questions-for-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson/ | Mar 30 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No Corporate Law and Power Questions for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson - CounterPunch.org | Mar 30 13:06 | |
| BTcoInk | ww3 is here and you keep chating about crap | Mar 30 13:08 |
| BTcoInk | are you russian propaganda machine? | Mar 30 13:08 |
| matey | ww3 has been here for a decade or more | Mar 30 13:08 |
| matey | yes im a russian propaganda machine that refers to russias leader as "putler" and "putlin" | Mar 30 13:08 |
| matey | lets just say im a russian propaganda machine with a vicious sense of humour | Mar 30 13:09 |
| BTcoInk | to escape the alghorithmes | Mar 30 13:09 |
| matey | naturally | Mar 30 13:09 |
| matey | fools them every time | Mar 30 13:09 |
| matey | because this irc is LOADED with anti-propaganda algorithms | Mar 30 13:09 |
| matey | you can find them on the gemhub. | Mar 30 13:09 |
| techrights-news | Instead of protecting women, babies and embryos Texas now protects the travel industry. And the travel is a risk to life. This was never about protecting humans. Women will do what they want, one way or another... | Mar 30 13:09 |
| matey | twitter is envious | Mar 30 13:09 |
| XRevan86 | BTcoInk: When we talked about the Russian propaganda machine, ye called this channel "right-leaning". | Mar 30 13:10 |
| matey | they cant use them though beause they serve over https and js | Mar 30 13:10 |
| BTcoInk | russian love rightwing | Mar 30 13:10 |
| BTcoInk | putin loves trump | Mar 30 13:10 |
| BTcoInk | they even finance the ultra right | Mar 30 13:11 |
| XRevan86 | That they do. | Mar 30 13:11 |
| BTcoInk | putin wants war | Mar 30 13:11 |
| XRevan86 | That's an astute observation after Putin started a war. | Mar 30 13:12 |
| matey | :) | Mar 30 13:12 |
| BTcoInk | to spread socialisme? | Mar 30 13:12 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is neither web nor dev, it's a resource-hogging malware cult gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/motivation-to-learn-something-new-webdev | Mar 30 13:12 |
| matey | hehe | Mar 30 13:12 |
| XRevan86 | BTcoInk: To spread his rule. | Mar 30 13:13 |
| matey | those darn ukranians, getting in the way of putlins socialist natural gas with their wicked capitalist petrol conglomerates | Mar 30 13:13 |
| BTcoInk | putin is fascist | Mar 30 13:14 |
| matey | close enough for the moment | Mar 30 13:14 |
| BTcoInk | so was stalin | Mar 30 13:14 |
| matey | similar to putlin yes | Mar 30 13:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asks-putin-provide-dirt-hunter-biden-1329356/ | Mar 30 13:14 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asks-putin-provide-dirt-hunter-biden-1329356/ | Mar 30 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Trump Asks Putin to Dig Up Dirt on Biden Family - Rolling Stone | Mar 30 13:14 | |
| matey | not much that was socialist about either of them | Mar 30 13:15 |
| *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Mar 30 13:15 | |
| matey | the rich love socialism for the rich | Mar 30 13:15 |
| matey | stalinism was socialism for the bureaucracy | Mar 30 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:30] <Techrights-sec> cheetonazi is soliciting more foreign interference again, highly illegal given | Mar 30 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:30] <Techrights-sec> his past and current positionl, teachnically treasonous; but then neither | Mar 30 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:30] <Techrights-sec> sedition nor treason have been prosecuted during the last 15 years | Mar 30 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:30] <Techrights-sec> despite occurences | Mar 30 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:30] <Techrights-sec> faux news, newsmax, and other are part of that | Mar 30 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheetonazi sounds like Fibonacci | Mar 30 13:19 |
| *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 13:19 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: ^ | Mar 30 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: | Mar 30 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheetonazi has caught on | Mar 30 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the cheese | Mar 30 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the shirt | Mar 30 13:20 |
| matey | cheetonazi is soliciting more foreign interference again <- its obviously a lot worse when a former president does it | Mar 30 13:21 |
| matey | though quite a lot of people during bush ii were asking the rest of the world to please invade | Mar 30 13:21 |
| matey | im not entirely sure its the same thing at all, just noting it for completeness | Mar 30 13:21 |
| matey | i was never terribly fond of the sedition act, trump doesnt change this | Mar 30 13:23 |
| matey | fwiw i dont think foreign invasion is generally a good (or effective) way to liberate anything (except oil, then its effective) | Mar 30 13:23 |
| matey | /me wonders if its sedition for the south to accept help from britain AFTER seceding | Mar 30 13:24 |
| matey | probably, buy technically i dont know | Mar 30 13:25 |
| matey | suppose that putin takes over the united states-- i know thats hilarious, just for the sake of argument | Mar 30 13:26 |
| matey | are we going to call it sedition if people ask canada and mexico to please intervene | Mar 30 13:27 |
| matey | i think under those circumstances sedition would be acceptable | Mar 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | ha | Mar 30 13:27 |
| matey | its a deliberately silly example | Mar 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | better exampl | Mar 30 13:28 |
| matey | as i said im not a big fan of the sedition act | Mar 30 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | china ore russia in mexico | Mar 30 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the US invades Mexico | Mar 30 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | when putin flies to colombia | Mar 30 13:30 |
| matey | because he likes good coffee | Mar 30 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and coordinates actions with their guerillas \ | Mar 30 13:30 |
| matey | so liberate better coffee | Mar 30 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we cannot allow this president biden to stay in power!!!" | Mar 30 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | Colombia is Poland BTW | Mar 30 13:30 |
| matey | interesting | Mar 30 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | FARC | Mar 30 13:31 |
| matey | that reminds me | Mar 30 13:31 |
| matey | FART FART FART FART is from twitter, yes? | Mar 30 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/nato-notes/ | Mar 30 13:31 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/nato-notes/ | Mar 30 13:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NATO Notes - CounterPunch.org | Mar 30 13:31 | |
| schestowitz | better and new: https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/bidens-unhinged-call-for-regime-change-in-russia/ | Mar 30 13:32 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/bidens-unhinged-call-for-regime-change-in-russia/ | Mar 30 13:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bidenโs Unhinged Call for Regime Change in Russia - CounterPunch.org | Mar 30 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | he basically went to poland | Mar 30 13:32 |
| schestowitz | next to belarus | Mar 30 13:32 |
| schestowitz | and gave marching orders of sorts | Mar 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | like US wants to also decide for russia who should run it | Mar 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | like putin allegedly did in US | Mar 30 13:33 |
| matey | when i was a kid i suspected the world was probably crazy | Mar 30 13:33 |
| matey | i had no idea how much though | Mar 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | remembe rthe Trumps met Putin's officials | Mar 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | to coordinate their campaign | Mar 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | while I oppose fake news | Mar 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | and exeggerations | Mar 30 13:34 |
| matey | lol | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | this one was not denied by the Trumps | Mar 30 13:34 |
| matey | <schestowitz> like US wants to also decide for russia who should run it <- this is what facebook is for | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | why would a campaign for US presidency involve meeting Putin's folks? | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | yes, FB is part of many | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | many parts | Mar 30 13:34 |
| matey | facebook is like the united nations except with shitty algorithms | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | and they can swap them around | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | gulagtube takes of the mask more and more | Mar 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds | Mar 30 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions | Facebook | The Guardian | Mar 30 13:35 | |
| matey | if russia wants to interfere with an election, thats what facebook is for | Mar 30 13:35 |
| schestowitz | biul''s guardian | Mar 30 13:35 |
| matey | if america wants to interfere with the russian government, facebook can help with that too | Mar 30 13:35 |
| schestowitz | bill's broadcasting corp.: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930 | Mar 30 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News | Mar 30 13:35 | |
| matey | who needs the united nations when you have zuckerberg? | Mar 30 13:35 |
| matey | "they trust us, dumb fucks"-- united nations | Mar 30 13:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | \FB has many producta | Mar 30 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | not meteverse | Mar 30 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | products like "brexit" | Mar 30 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | products like "borisnaro" | Mar 30 13:36 |
| matey | SR -> NKVD -> KGB -> FB | Mar 30 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | faecbook: we have a CATALOGUE | Mar 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 million Brits | Mar 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | will 1) spy | Mar 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) indoctrinate | Mar 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) report back | Mar 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | for canvassing | Mar 30 13:37 |
| matey | PBS | Mar 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | PBS funded by Bill | Mar 30 13:37 |
| matey | practically bills station | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Bill's PR (NPR) | Mar 30 13:38 |
| matey | npr, national philanthropist radio | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | PBS did ask him one or two questions about the "rich people" though | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the bribes were not enough I guess | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he must have panicked | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he did visible snapped | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm PAYING you" | Mar 30 13:38 |
| matey | "what do you mean by 'rich people'" | Mar 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't ask me about "well he's dea" | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | *dead | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | riuch people | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | he said it himself | Mar 30 13:39 |
| matey | reich people? | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was close to epstein | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | because he know lots of rich people | Mar 30 13:39 |
| matey | maxwell house | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but epstein mostly provided confidential maccess to 'little people' | Mar 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gates is the one with contacts among "rich people" | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | even Saudis | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the internal JOKE here before | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that "rich people" is code | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a joke | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but still fitting | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | epstein DID know a lot of "rich people" | Mar 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | he literally smuggled thousands of them | Mar 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he hooked up "rich people" (quotes) with rich people | Mar 30 13:41 |
| matey | daughter swapping? | Mar 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | in marshal island or virgin island or just in the air | Mar 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | where it's no-man's land | Mar 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 20 years ago they did a survey in china | Mar 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they found that the most wanted sperm was bill's | Mar 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't ask me why | Mar 30 13:42 |
| matey | weird | Mar 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I find that disgusting | Mar 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but ever since the epstein thing and rick allen jones arrest it never seemed (or seamed) the same | Mar 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I don't even want to think about it tbh... | Mar 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the media should | Mar 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the US law enforcement should | Mar 30 13:43 |
| matey | the le always work for the rich | Mar 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's encrypt | Mar 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | LE | Mar 30 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's encrypt = law enfoircement | Mar 30 13:44 |
| matey | it doesnt matter what the guy on the beat does, its the organisation he works for that matters | Mar 30 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's a funny one | Mar 30 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I trust the CA of LE | Mar 30 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | Law Enforcement | Mar 30 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | /sarcasm maybe LE is CODE for something..... wwwwwwwwwhooooooooo | Mar 30 13:44 |
| matey | little entertainment | Mar 30 13:45 |
| matey | you know regardless of what the findings were | Mar 30 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, you see. | Mar 30 13:45 |
| matey | the idea of doing a survey in china to find out what sperm is the most wanted | Mar 30 13:45 |
| matey | thats a really weird survey to begin with | Mar 30 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's where "Court of public opinion" helps | Mar 30 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM lawsuits were dropped | Mar 30 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but IBM remained scarred | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | by its past | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and FB loses many usersa | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | AND admits this | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | at long last | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter also admits faking its reach | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and paid a lot to settle with shareholders after they had sued | Mar 30 13:46 |
| matey | this does not read like a cbs article | Mar 30 13:46 |
| matey | Gates Grant to Fund Testicle-Blasting Contraceptive - CBS News | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so even without LE we can get a little justice | Mar 30 13:46 |
| matey | article <- title | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and, if we get popcorn, a little entertainment | Mar 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it's so effective you end up with a voice like Bill's! | Mar 30 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is always bemused by his voice | Mar 30 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "mouse" | Mar 30 13:47 |
| matey | foreignpolicy.com/2007/07/30/the-sperm-donors-chinese-women-want-most/ | Mar 30 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | slow down, ladies | Mar 30 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | get your jar ready | Mar 30 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the "rich people" | Mar 30 13:49 |
| matey | im guessing this is a right-wing news site | Mar 30 13:50 |
| matey | its the only hit i found with the story | Mar 30 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Mar 30 13:50 |
| matey | The Slate Group | Mar 30 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | it';s corporatist site | Mar 30 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and imperialist | Mar 30 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not right/left | Mar 30 13:51 |
| matey | The creation of The Slate Group was announced by Donald Graham, the chairman and CEO of The Washington Post Company, in a press release on June 4, 2008. | Mar 30 13:51 |
| matey | hmm | Mar 30 13:51 |
| matey | st site | Mar 30 13:51 |
| matey | #techrights : 03/30/22 12:51 <schestowitz-TR> <- just the logo made me think it was right wing | Mar 30 13:51 |
| matey | and imperialist <- meant to point to this | Mar 30 13:52 |
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| matey | i consider imperialist right wing, but point taken | Mar 30 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | imperialism is not right wing (anymore) | Mar 30 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | see Blair | Mar 30 13:52 |
| matey | thats because the "left" is imperialist (but i still think thats) | Mar 30 13:53 |
| matey | i used to call him tory blair | Mar 30 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | B'Liar | Mar 30 13:53 |
| matey | rms i think | Mar 30 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms called his mate Gordon Clown | Mar 30 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | What's his uptime? | Mar 30 13:54 |
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| psydruid | > though quite a lot of people during bush ii were asking the rest of the world to please invade | Mar 30 14:00 |
| psydruid | have some people lost all hope in the country's "leadership"? | Mar 30 14:00 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163141 | Mar 30 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 14:00 | |
| matey | the usa is largely divided | Mar 30 14:01 |
| matey | it used to be part of the presidents job to bring the country together including those who didnt vote for them | Mar 30 14:02 |
| matey | not to run it like two different countries, with one in charge of the other during a term | Mar 30 14:02 |
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| matey | now the latter imo describes the way america is "managed" | Mar 30 14:02 |
| matey | i say "managed" rather then "run" because the former implies a lot of it is image-based | Mar 30 14:03 |
| matey | image management | Mar 30 14:03 |
| matey | which describes contemporary politics better than "running a country" does | Mar 30 14:03 |
| matey | no matter who you vote for, you always get the kardashians | Mar 30 14:03 |
| matey | its a television-based regime | Mar 30 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the us is divided | Mar 30 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | 22 millionaires | Mar 30 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | 250,000,000-300,000,000 poor people | Mar 30 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a few left in between | Mar 30 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | putting their savings in Wall Street | Mar 30 14:05 |
| matey | 22 millionaires <- i dated one of them | Mar 30 14:05 |
| matey | im sure you didnt mean 22 millionaires | Mar 30 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the interest in the bank is sub $wall street will each them next | Mar 30 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then celebrate another 1 million millionaires and a thousand billionaires | Mar 30 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | their media, like washpo, will write about "Difficult People" pooing on pavements | Mar 30 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | 22 million millionaires | Mar 30 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to type that | Mar 30 14:06 |
| matey | yeah im not giving you shit about typos | Mar 30 14:06 |
| matey | but i didnt know what you meant | Mar 30 14:06 |
| schestowitz | https://usdebtclock.org/ | Mar 30 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-usdebtclock.org | U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time | Mar 30 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | total us debt 89 trillion | Mar 30 14:07 |
| schestowitz | 22 trillion personal debt | Mar 30 14:07 |
| matey | their media, like washpo, will write about "Difficult People" pooing on pavements <- at least they dont poo on peoples doorsteps, like wapo does | Mar 30 14:07 |
| matey | /me used to call it "the washington compost" | Mar 30 14:08 |
| schestowitz | gdp 24 trillion | Mar 30 14:08 |
| schestowitz | national debt 30+ | Mar 30 14:08 |
| matey | they did have a legacy of good reporting | Mar 30 14:08 |
| matey | its just they were long past that by the time jeff bought them | Mar 30 14:08 |
| matey | no, other jeff | Mar 30 14:08 |
| schestowitz | it says 22.11 million millionaires | Mar 30 14:09 |
| schestowitz | but not sure how they define that | Mar 30 14:09 |
| schestowitz | a million in assets | Mar 30 14:09 |
| schestowitz | in bank | Mar 30 14:09 |
| matey | in assets im sure | Mar 30 14:09 |
| schestowitz | do kids of a millionaire parent count | Mar 30 14:09 |
| schestowitz | what if divorced? | Mar 30 14:09 |
| matey | no | Mar 30 14:09 |
| matey | kids that dont have a million in their own account would not count | Mar 30 14:10 |
| matey | outside of people magazine | Mar 30 14:10 |
| schestowitz | anyway, US will have more billioanire | Mar 30 14:10 |
| schestowitz | until SHTF | Mar 30 14:11 |
| schestowitz | then they will move elsewhere | Mar 30 14:11 |
| schestowitz | like NZ | Mar 30 14:11 |
| matey | or an alice cooper album | Mar 30 14:11 |
| schestowitz | they already got the dual/passport/naturalisation going | Mar 30 14:11 |
| schestowitz | like Syprus | Mar 30 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Cyprus | Mar 30 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | the latest: | Mar 30 14:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/11/9/21547055/eric-schmidt-google-citizen-cyprus-european-union | Mar 30 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus - Vox | Mar 30 14:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/eric-schmidt-reportedly-applied-to-become-a-citizen-of-cyprus.html | Mar 30 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Eric Schmidt reportedly applied to become a citizen of Cyprus | Mar 30 14:11 | |
| schestowitz | also popular among russian "oligarchs" | Mar 30 14:12 |
| matey | did they reject the application? | Mar 30 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they would not | Mar 30 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need that | Mar 30 14:13 |
| matey | i wouldnt think so | Mar 30 14:13 |
| bnchs | hey schestowitz | Mar 30 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | cyprus is an oddball economy | Mar 30 14:13 |
| bnchs | you're gonna love this | Mar 30 14:13 |
| bnchs | https://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpg | Mar 30 14:13 |
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| *psydruid applies for citizenship of cypress hill | Mar 30 14:14 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: what is this shit? | Mar 30 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | said the toilet seat | Mar 30 14:14 |
| matey | https://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpg <- are the pipes backed up or is the server just down | Mar 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, cyprus has 3 international airports | Mar 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | not too far apart from each other | Mar 30 14:16 |
| matey | <psydruid> ACTION applies for citizenship of cypress hill <- cant think of the country without thinking of the band either | Mar 30 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I even took taxi from one to another, due to almost missing a plane | Mar 30 14:16 |
| matey | taxi! take me to the airport! "but we are already here" | Mar 30 14:16 |
| bnchs | matey: well when the servers go down, it will be fun | Mar 30 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: "oh shit" | Mar 30 14:16 |
| bnchs | people unable to flush their toilets because the smart toilet sms server stopped working | Mar 30 14:17 |
| matey | "i shouldnt have eaten all that pasta, im gonna ddos my lotus tomorrow!" | Mar 30 14:17 |
| *schestowitz-TR installs skype, microsoft gets list of contacts and "call" history | Mar 30 14:17 | |
| schestowitz-TR | (shit history | Mar 30 14:17 |
| matey | /me mark z Likes This | Mar 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "user also liked..." | Mar 30 14:18 |
| bnchs | smart toilet is the future now | Mar 30 14:19 |
| matey | Lotus ATS-1000 is designed to provide you with unprecedented comfort in your daily toilet routine. The special Pure Stream function effectively helps to relieve constipation. | Mar 30 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: where does it go if you reply to the SMS? Wait, don't tell me... | Mar 30 14:19 |
| matey | wow. | Mar 30 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | (right in the shitlist) | Mar 30 14:19 |
| matey | so its a smart toilet with built-in enema. | Mar 30 14:20 |
| bnchs | wait what? | Mar 30 14:20 |
| matey | ill get you the poo rl | Mar 30 14:20 |
| matey | quote was from here https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lotus-Smart-Hygiene-Seat-ATS-1000-Advanced-Smart-Electric-Bidet-Seat-for-Elongated-Toilets-with-Remote-in-White-ATS-1000L/303396094 | Mar 30 14:20 |
| bnchs | the toilets gonna start blasting your ass | Mar 30 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | see? "luxury" items | Mar 30 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | likle bidet | Mar 30 14:21 |
| bnchs | maybe a little orgasm | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | gold-plated biden | Mar 30 14:21 |
| matey | this is not the first toilet ive heard about with its own bidet | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | with 3 cameras in it | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to cover all angles | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | *bidet | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Mar 30 14:21 |
| matey | rich people angles | Mar 30 14:21 |
| bnchs | lol 3 cameras | Mar 30 14:21 |
| bnchs | gonna get careful look at your ass and dick | Mar 30 14:21 |
| bnchs | sending pics to gulag | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | for caliberation | Mar 30 14:21 |
| bnchs | clown | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it needs to triangulate | Mar 30 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | stereovision too | Mar 30 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and one spare | Mar 30 14:22 |
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| schestowitz-TR | there was parody about this in gulagtube | Mar 30 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Mar 30 14:22 |
| bnchs | smart toilet | Mar 30 14:22 |
| bnchs | want to shit real bad | Mar 30 14:22 |
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| bnchs | shits out a big dump | Mar 30 14:22 |
| bnchs | flushes | Mar 30 14:23 |
| bnchs | "please verify before flushing" | Mar 30 14:23 |
| bnchs | i remember i changed phone numbers | Mar 30 14:23 |
| matey | no ones joked about a toilet that takes selfies yet? | Mar 30 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see lots of parodies | Mar 30 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot remember which one I saw about 5 years ago | Mar 30 14:23 |
| matey | i mean why just tweet what youve eaten BEFORE you eat it | Mar 30 14:23 |
| matey | sometimes its more impressive later | Mar 30 14:23 |
| bnchs | orginial source: | Mar 30 14:24 |
| bnchs | https://nitter.net/atdanwhite/status/1508578360217292802 | Mar 30 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Dan White (@atdanwhite): "Does anyone know how to turn off two-factor authentication on their Lotus SmartToilet? Driving me insane." | nitter | Mar 30 14:24 | |
| schestowitz | MAYBE this: Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - Invidious โ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ | Mar 30 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - Invidious | Mar 30 14:24 | |
| bnchs | adult swim parody comes true | Mar 30 14:25 |
| schestowitz | Guy Martin Tries Out a Japanese Toilet? - Invidious โ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=e767uc1aBJo | Mar 30 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Guy Martin Tries Out a Japanese Toilet? - Invidious | Mar 30 14:25 | |
| schestowitz | Why You Need to Try a High-Tech Japanese Toilet - Invidious โ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GZRwI7m7gnw | Mar 30 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Why You Need to Try a High-Tech Japanese Toilet - Invidious | Mar 30 14:26 | |
| matey | its not difficult to understand why kurt vonnegut killed himself | Mar 30 14:26 |
| matey | this is the sort of thing he was trying to avoid | Mar 30 14:26 |
| techrights-news | 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163142 | Mar 30 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 14:26 | |
| bnchs | a toilet does 1 job and it does it good | Mar 30 14:27 |
| matey | unix philosophy! | Mar 30 14:27 |
| bnchs | you want smart toilet, go use toiletd | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | having electronics there might be 'OK' | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Biden need not be evil, either | Mar 30 14:27 |
| matey | some people think it should have never been extended to cover #2 and they should have used a different tool for the job | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the issue isn't the technofascism | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the connection of it to other things | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "smart" sex toys | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and all those "wearable" things | Mar 30 14:28 |
| bnchs | smart sex toys? | Mar 30 14:28 |
| bnchs | holy shit | Mar 30 14:28 |
| matey | toiletd-- now also has a sink for handwashing | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | internet-connected | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they send stats and stuff | Mar 30 14:28 |
| matey | and a toothbrush holder | Mar 30 14:28 |
| matey | and a bathtub | Mar 30 14:28 |
| bnchs | i've actually seen a free software driver for..... | Mar 30 14:28 |
| bnchs | sex toys | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | electroric toothbrush fine | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | not for me but fine | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use electric shaver again | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to cost of gas now | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the shaver does not need to connect to anything like a router | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can also run on batteries | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | just need power to rotate | Mar 30 14:29 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> like "smart" sex toys <schestowitz-TR> and all those "wearable" things <- and wearble sex toys | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | a microwave needs to have power to heat | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's heat | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe a clock | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's it | Mar 30 14:29 |
| bnchs | matey: people unironically wear soy toys | Mar 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | my mind went there for a sec | Mar 30 14:30 |
| matey | clock makes sense because-- leaving a microwave on until you turn it off is a bad idea | Mar 30 14:30 |
| bnchs | i means ex toys | Mar 30 14:30 |
| matey | ovens have clocks too | Mar 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | or you can use fire alarrm as a clock | Mar 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | or smoke alarm | Mar 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | that works too | Mar 30 14:30 |
| matey | <bnchs> matey: people unironically wear soy toys <- some are meant to be used that way | Mar 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the food doesn't taste good | Mar 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also more hassle | Mar 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you can get back in there | Mar 30 14:30 |
| bnchs | i need a smart oven | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | zbtw, today's "smart" kitchen appliances | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | would not work well | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | bad testing | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | remote updates | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | breaking things | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | even basics like the clock | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will ship fast | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | without testing | Mar 30 14:31 |
| matey | /me has a smart pan | Mar 30 14:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | causing house fires and ruin | Mar 30 14:31 |
| matey | when you put it on the burner, it gets hot | Mar 30 14:32 |
| matey | how does it know? | Mar 30 14:32 |
| bnchs | smart oven doing endian conversion | Mar 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | "just keep the oven on "OTA" updates" | Mar 30 14:32 |
| matey | when you take it off the burner, it cools off automatically! | Mar 30 14:32 |
| bnchs | "setting tempurate to 12388495ยฐC" | Mar 30 14:32 |
| matey | technology is amazing | Mar 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the likelihood of things breaking will increase | Mar 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. basics | Mar 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | airplanes try to separate steering from infotainment | Mar 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for cost-savings that's no longer true | Mar 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so passenger can hijack the whole plane | Mar 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even steer it | Mar 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | (happened) | Mar 30 14:33 |
| matey | thats why pilots should never share their account password with passengers | Mar 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: press "Report Bug" | Mar 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "this incident will be reported." | Mar 30 14:33 |
| bnchs | now just imagine someone using the oven to cook something illegal | Mar 30 14:34 |
| matey | /me tried to use bug report once | Mar 30 14:34 |
| bnchs | or its smoking or some shit | Mar 30 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: like pork | Mar 30 14:34 |
| matey | i thought they were going to come kill it | Mar 30 14:34 |
| bnchs | yeah pork | Mar 30 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "it looks like you are a cooking a dog" | Mar 30 14:34 |
| matey | they just told me to upgrade to the latest version | Mar 30 14:34 |
| bnchs | "haram food detected. this incident will be reported to ISIS" | Mar 30 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | oven: "oh, never mind, you have a chinese ip address. never mind , bon appetie" | Mar 30 14:34 |
| matey | i told them i didnt want to upgrade it, i wanted to uninstall it | Mar 30 14:35 |
| bnchs | "geolocation reported to nearest Islamic State fighters" | Mar 30 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: if you live in afghanistan | Mar 30 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the taliban takes over | Mar 30 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and raids the Oven Inc. company | Mar 30 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | fot server logs | Mar 30 14:36 |
| matey | iot = internet of taliban | Mar 30 14:36 |
| psydruid | lol | Mar 30 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: don\t make fun | Mar 30 14:36 |
| bnchs | its more like | Mar 30 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | "this incident will be reported." | Mar 30 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I kill you@@" | Mar 30 14:36 |
| bnchs | the taliban will find the source code of the oven firmware | Mar 30 14:36 |
| bnchs | and modify it to report haram food | Mar 30 14:36 |
| bnchs | and then send the "update" | Mar 30 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll be sent in batches | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | overnight | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | to throw reverse engineers off the scent | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's what gulag does with android | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe other devices like nest | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "to improve your experience" | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "to improve your battery life" | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | we send in patches | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | aggregated "BIG DATA" | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | some data | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothiong fancy | Mar 30 14:38 |
| matey | patches? | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | just data | Mar 30 14:38 |
| matey | patches? | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just "meta" anyway | Mar 30 14:38 |
| matey | we dont need no steenking patches | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing personal | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | iPatch | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | (eye patch) | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | sinatra stuffed his head in the oven | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least once | Mar 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the oven wasn't smart enough | Mar 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | alexa did not listen | Mar 30 14:39 |
| bnchs | what if | Mar 30 14:39 |
| matey | they got under his skin | Mar 30 14:39 |
| bnchs | the taliban got access to alexa firmware source code and the update servers | Mar 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: well done, well done | Mar 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now the end is near | Mar 30 14:39 |
| matey | thats life | Mar 30 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: maybe all those echos in afghanistan will come in handy | Mar 30 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it has long been said these devices will turn sour in the "wrong" hands | Mar 30 14:40 |
| bnchs | taliban driving with a speaker van | Mar 30 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course the pentagon and its privatised offshots are also "wrong" hands | Mar 30 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: to detect people who - gasp - listen to music | Mar 30 14:41 |
| matey | its "my way" or the huawei | Mar 30 14:41 |
| bnchs | yes music is haram | Mar 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | or detect faces if females | Mar 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | not covered | Mar 30 14:41 |
| bnchs | "ALEXA, WHAT DOES MY SHOPPING CART HAVE" | Mar 30 14:41 |
| matey | native americans used to say that a camera would steal your soul | Mar 30 14:42 |
| matey | they were off by at least a hundred years, but still | Mar 30 14:42 |
| matey | "to be fair, we had never heard of a phone camera" | Mar 30 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | stealing my photons | Mar 30 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the clown does | Mar 30 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cloud | Mar 30 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the clown | Mar 30 14:43 |
| matey | "or a smart bidet" | Mar 30 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or smart biden | Mar 30 14:43 |
| matey | enjoy your flush | Mar 30 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | luck be a lady | Mar 30 14:43 |
| bnchs | "warning. blood detected in toilet" | Mar 30 14:44 |
| bnchs | "this incident will be reported" | Mar 30 14:44 |
| bnchs | "flushing disabled" | Mar 30 14:44 |
| techrights-news | Whatโs new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Beta โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163143 | Mar 30 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Beta | Tux Machines | Mar 30 14:44 | |
| matey | /me is waiting for the iphone to be replaced with a seashell | Mar 30 14:45 |
| MinceR | i already had a Seashell, it was an EeePC model :> | Mar 30 14:45 |
| matey | but what did the other 2 do? | Mar 30 14:45 |
| techrights-news | Linux Mint Cinnamon vs MATE: Which One To Choose? โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163144 | Mar 30 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Cinnamon vs MATE: Which One To Choose? | Tux Machines | Mar 30 14:46 | |
| MinceR | i only had one | Mar 30 14:46 |
| MinceR | actually i think the name was that of the design, probably the second EeePC design they had | Mar 30 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | enjoy your microphone with a BOOTLOADER | Mar 30 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and microwave, too | Mar 30 14:47 |
| matey | GNU Typist is currently being maintained by Mihai Gฤtejescu <- thats kind of mean | Mar 30 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | coming soon: bootloader on your covid-10 disposable test kit | Mar 30 14:47 |
| MinceR | lol @ microwave scare | Mar 30 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | some disposable test kids come with a full electric circuit | Mar 30 14:47 |
| matey | "im learning how to type with this software, who can i thank?" | Mar 30 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | thrown away after one use | Mar 30 14:47 |
| matey | "Mihai Gฤtejescu" | Mar 30 14:47 |
| matey | "you know maybe ill just learn the piano" | Mar 30 14:48 |
| bnchs | mihai | Mar 30 14:48 |
| bnchs | gate jes cu | Mar 30 14:48 |
| bnchs | i dont understand | Mar 30 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "wait, I cannot cook the meal yet, the microwave is rebooting and after the upgrade it has systemd" | Mar 30 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I also hook up external screen to the microwave) | Mar 30 14:49 |
| matey | /me thanks lennart for turning every instance of "system" in the world to a typo | Mar 30 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | (don't ask... wayland compatibility issues with the onboard screen) | Mar 30 14:49 |
| bnchs | Microsoftยฎ Microwaveยฎ | Mar 30 14:49 |
| bnchs | Updating.... 0% Please don't shutdown the microwave | Mar 30 14:49 |
| matey | /me flips the clock on his microwave around to convert it to tablet/hicachi mode | Mar 30 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | new onboard screen would cost more than a new microwave of the same kind | Mar 30 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the external screen has 4 USB ports, but I don't use them... | Mar 30 14:50 |
| matey | its actually hibachi mode, but this is a cheap knockoff | Mar 30 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it uses HDMI | Mar 30 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it has a speaker there too | Mar 30 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | now I can amplify the sound of the frying | Mar 30 14:51 |
| matey | toiletd now has its own microwave | Mar 30 14:51 |
| matey | dont fucking ask me why | Mar 30 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "my microwave keeps asking for the wifi password" | Mar 30 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it says something "DHCP" after the latest OTA update | Mar 30 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I can only cook in "basic" mode | Mar 30 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "defrost" | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | "oh well..." | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | "at least it's smart" | Mar 30 14:53 |
| matey | oh hey, github is doing a captcha | Mar 30 14:53 |
| matey | nie | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | tor? | Mar 30 14:54 |
| matey | yeah | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are the lucky o | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | *one | Mar 30 14:54 |
| matey | i told it im not actually from the netherlands and it let me through :) | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you hosted a site there, it would just say "site offline" | Mar 30 14:54 |
| bnchs | subscriptions | Mar 30 14:54 |
| matey | ^ mincer | Mar 30 14:54 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: imagine smart toilet subscription | Mar 30 14:54 |
| bnchs | pay for 10 flushes per month for 50$ | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | how much is biden mode per month? | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't want to be "loo pirate|" | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | like toyota with the keyfob thing | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | pay extra to start the car as you approach it? That's a monthly fee | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | /s/biden/bidet/ | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I keep making that typo | Mar 30 14:55 |
| matey | /me was trying to view a developer in bucharest, but couldnt because it thought i was budapest | Mar 30 14:55 |
| matey | gotta love the new internet | Mar 30 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but when the president has such shit ratring I cannot be blamed | Mar 30 14:56 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: you think thats bad? | Mar 30 14:57 |
| techrights-news | But Microsoft's OWN criminals have NOT been arrested. Nor have the Microsofters who left these holes open. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqLZOlN9xrE | Mar 30 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bqLZOlN9xrE | Mar 30 14:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Nvidia & Microsoft Hackers Now Arrested & Doxxed - Invidious | Mar 30 14:57 | |
| bnchs | remember when i had to pay 10$ to unlock my frontdoor so i can go home? | Mar 30 14:57 |
| bnchs | or go out | Mar 30 14:58 |
| bnchs | *cutaway* | Mar 30 14:58 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโ โโโ โโโโ โ โโ โโโ โโ โโโโโโ โ โโ โโโโ avg(k/sec) 19.60 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 104.58โ swarm size (avg): 372.46 โฒ | Mar 30 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: the future.. | Mar 30 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | or present | Mar 30 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to keep track anymore | Mar 30 14:59 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163145 | Mar 30 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 15:00 | |
| bnchs | you think THATS bad????? | Mar 30 15:00 |
| bnchs | remember when i got sick of it, and decided to smash the door open | Mar 30 15:00 |
| bnchs | and the incident got reported and i got arrested | Mar 30 15:00 |
| techrights-news | Antitrust abuses by Microsoft criminals https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/microsoft_browser_choice/ | Mar 30 15:00 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/microsoft_browser_choice/ | Mar 30 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft moves to 1-click default browser change โข The Register | Mar 30 15:00 | |
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| techrights-news | They keep doing this. The criminals who keep doing this (also bribing officials) never get prosecuted and arrested. Instead they bribe the media, inc. The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001277/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-new-options | Mar 30 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11 - The Verge | Mar 30 15:02 | |
| techrights-news | Do we have a cracker problem or a back doors problem? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Mar 30 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Mar 30 15:03 | |
| bnchs | lol | Mar 30 15:03 |
| bnchs | microsoft is finally making it "easier" to switch default browsers in windows 11 | Mar 30 15:04 |
| bnchs | *-10% easier | Mar 30 15:04 |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-14.jpg | Mar 30 15:05 |
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| techrights-news | Rolling Rhino: A rolling-release remix of Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163034#comment-33236 | Mar 30 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino | Tux Machines | Mar 30 15:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: microsoft *clap clap* crackers caught | Mar 30 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | after exploiting our back doors | Mar 30 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: microsoft *clap clap* we stopped shipping malware | Mar 30 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | after blaming "open source" (brandon) | Mar 30 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | THANK YOU, Microsoft! | Mar 30 15:06 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 30 15:06 |
| bnchs | they like to stage shit for PR stunts | Mar 30 15:06 |
| bnchs | every company does | Mar 30 15:06 |
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| psydruid | as if anything is going to save them anymore | Mar 30 15:19 |
| psydruid | they probably lost so many users to all of this bs that they couldn't do anything other than "condone" setting another browser as the default in one place | Mar 30 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | antitrust action is business risk | Mar 30 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | historically, when Microsoft wilkl trying to dodge heavy fines | Mar 30 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was spinning it in the media as an act of goodwill | Mar 30 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | one example uis Samba/SMB | Mar 30 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then people like Me. NON-secure boot | Mar 30 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | would help them spin that, too | Mar 30 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | or microsoft 'support' for ODF | Mar 30 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is bogus | Mar 30 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and was designed to advance their OOXML agenda | Mar 30 15:22 |
| techrights-news | "former IBM data scientist, has sued Big Blue for gender discrimination and retaliation after he complained that he was not being offered the same family leave options available to his women colleagues." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ibm_equality_lawsuit/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism | Mar 30 15:27 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ibm_equality_lawsuit/ | Mar 30 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Axed IBM scientist sues over alleged gender discrimination โข The Register | Mar 30 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Mar 30 15:27 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163146 | Mar 30 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 30 15:27 | |
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| techrights-news | EmuDeck makes emulation on Steam Deck nice and simple | GamingOnLinux โ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/emudeck-makes-emulation-on-steam-deck-nice-and-simple/ ไท Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Mar 30 15:29 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/emudeck-makes-emulation-on-steam-deck-nice-and-simple/ | Mar 30 15:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EmuDeck makes emulation on Steam Deck nice and simple | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 15:29 | |
| techrights-news | "RetroArch, the very popular application front-end for emulators and more has a new release out and it includes better support for the Steam Deck. The improvements benefit all Steam users of course but, for the Steam Deck especially, it's awesome." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/retroarch-gets-big-steam-deck-improvements/ | Mar 30 15:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroArch gets big Steam Deck improvements | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 15:30 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-23.jpg | Mar 30 15:37 |
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| techrights-news | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ | Mar 30 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights | Mar 30 15:41 | |
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| techrights-news | The Netherlands needs drug reform (yes, really) gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/30/Marijuana-reform-in-NL.gmi | Mar 30 15:46 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163147 | Mar 30 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 15:49 | |
| techrights-news | This week Germany will have more confirmed COVID-19 cases than the UK. The survival rate is vastly higher there. | Mar 30 15:51 |
| techrights-news | SPAMnil, who ruined LINUX.COM, seems to have broken a new record. 9 videos views in 8 days. I reckon those views are just SPAMnil and his "guest" checking that the video works. GulagTube says he has 22.2k subscribers. I LOL. | Mar 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | one per day | Mar 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | upon debut | Mar 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | sort of like linux.com | Mar 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | 50 views a week | Mar 30 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | for their spam | Mar 30 15:57 |
| techrights-news | Richard Stallman's impending talk is not listed here https://stallman.org/talks.html | Mar 30 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman | Mar 30 15:58 | |
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| techrights-news | No More COVID-19 Testing Kits, But the Numbers Are Soaring, Plague Unresolved http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/30/plague-unresolved/ | Mar 30 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป No More COVID-19 Testing Kits, But the Numbers Are Soaring, Plague Unresolved | Mar 30 16:21 | |
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| techrights-news | Wasting a Raspberry Pi to promote Microsoft's proprietary vendor lock-in that's in effect an attack on Free software and on Git https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/github_issue_printer/ | Mar 30 16:26 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/github_issue_printer/ | Mar 30 16:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Dev rigs up receipt printer to spit out GitHub issues โข The Register | Mar 30 16:26 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-7.jpg | Mar 30 16:26 |
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| techrights-news | "The modern CIO role has morphed into one that is equal parts technologist, business strategist, and transformational change agent." Mostly buzzwords slinging, no real substance. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/leadership-tips-cios-evolve-digital-strategy | Mar 30 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 5 leadership tips for CIOs to evolve their digital strategy | The Enterprisers Project | Mar 30 16:27 | |
| techrights-news | More buzzwords salad: "But how do we as leaders cultivate these qualities in our teams and create a culture of resiliency?" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/build-resilient-it-team | Mar 30 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Want to build a resilient IT team? Follow this advice | The Enterprisers Project | Mar 30 16:28 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM is promoting lots of mindless buzzwords https://opensource.com/article/22/3/aqua-security-devsecops | Mar 30 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Aqua Security is approaching DevSecOps in 2022 | Opensource.com | Mar 30 16:32 | |
| techrights-news | Seems like a bubble. You don't need a special company for this. HP trying to buy itself an identity https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/hp_buys_poly/ | Mar 30 16:34 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/hp_buys_poly/ | Mar 30 16:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | HP buys office-telco firm Poly, in bet on hybrid work trend โข The Register | Mar 30 16:34 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Pieskov stated that the transition of payments to rubles is a slow process. | Mar 30 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Seems like this went nowhere, who knew. | Mar 30 16:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | piesk off!! | Mar 30 16:35 |
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| XRevan86 | It's a mystery why Putin even demanded payment in rubles in the first place. "Compromised currencies" are magic words that I will leave to ะฐctivelow, in reality Russia wants these currencies, and my only hypothesis is that conversion of euros and dollars in Russian banks would help the Russian ruble's exchange rate. | Mar 30 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | I.e. injecting the Russian ruble as a MITM to help it out. | Mar 30 16:40 |
| techrights-news | GNUnet 0.16.3 โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163148 | Mar 30 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNUnet 0.16.3 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 16:41 | |
| techrights-news | โApp Icons Taskbarโ Puts Running Apps in GNOME Shellโs Top Bar โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163149 | Mar 30 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | But the existing contracts don't allow that, the buyers aren't willing to bend over, and all Russia can do in that situation is say "okayโฆ" | Mar 30 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | โApp Icons Taskbarโ Puts Running Apps in GNOME Shellโs Top Bar | Tux Machines | Mar 30 16:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: the Ruble is shaky like Putin | Mar 30 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | Who needs whom more? | Mar 30 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: They employed some weird machinations, and the Russian ruble by the Central Bank exchange rate went down to 83 rubles for a dollar. | Mar 30 16:44 |
| techrights-news | "While this experience is open for everyone, Igalia expressly invites women (both cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people to apply." Filling quotas. https://blogs.igalia.com/siglesias/2022/03/30/Igalia-Coding-Experience-GSOC-Outreachy-EVoC/ | Mar 30 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Igalia Coding Experience, GSoC, Outreachy, EVoC - Samuel Iglesias Gonsรกlvez's blog | Mar 30 16:45 | |
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| XRevan86 | Machinations like limiting foreign currencies' operations in Russia, restricting the stock market, et al. | Mar 30 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | Didn't expect that all this would fly, but evidently it does. | Mar 30 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | does trading in USD get you flagged foreign agent? | Mar 30 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it s de facto martial law in russia | Mar 30 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | today I read 15k Russian had died already | Mar 30 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are front liners | Mar 30 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably the "better" among combatants | Mar 30 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the best equipment | Mar 30 16:47 |
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| schestowitz-TR | not reserves and spares | Mar 30 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | Moving USDs abroad is a legal offence of some kind indeed. | Mar 30 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://rbc.ru/finances/30/03/2022/624441a49a79475c35453a44 check this out. | Mar 30 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-rbc-ru.translate.goog | ะฆะ ัะตะบะพะผะตะฝะดะพะฒะฐะป ะฑะฐะฝะบะฐะผ ัะฐะทะฝัะต ะบัััั ะดะปั ะธะผะฟะพััะตัะพะฒ ะธ ะพััะฐะปัะฝัั ะบะพะผะฟะฐะฝะธะน โ ะ ะะ | Mar 30 16:47 | |
| XRevan86 | > The Central Bank recommended different rates to banks for importers and other companies | Mar 30 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | US gov: let's sanction Russians | Mar 30 16:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | UK gov: let's sanction Russians | Mar 30 16:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | EU govs: let's sanction Russians | Mar 30 16:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Russian gov: let's sanction Russians | Mar 30 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | Ye're not wrong. | Mar 30 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | funnt thing is this: | Mar 30 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | media mentions putin and russia interchangeably | Mar 30 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | while highlighting putin being a dictator | Mar 30 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | Even I do that. | Mar 30 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he's a dictator, then he lacks the consent of russia | Mar 30 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so why assume russia=putin? | Mar 30 16:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | look at EPO | Mar 30 16:51 |
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| schestowitz-TR | we do not assume patent examiners are management | Mar 30 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | or that they support Team UPC | Mar 30 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | Well, the current lines of thought don't really account for dictatorships of this calibre. | Mar 30 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we help them attack the management and it works | Mar 30 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | Late USSR was a lot more liberal than what Russia has now. | Mar 30 16:52 |
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| XRevan86 | Also we live in the times when a dictator can literally rule the country from a bunker. | Mar 30 16:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | he has a palace, no? | Mar 30 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Putin's palance | Mar 30 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and subs | Mar 30 16:54 |
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| XRevan86 | It's under reconstruction. | Mar 30 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | heh, maybe he'll make a palace inside a sub, too | Mar 30 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to keep safe | Mar 30 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "lay low, Vlad" | Mar 30 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | He never actually lived there. | Mar 30 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | He's Putin some new stuff in there | Mar 30 16:55 |
| techrights-news | Games: TFC: The Fertile Crescent, EmuDeck, RetroArch โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163150 | Mar 30 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: TFC: The Fertile Crescent, EmuDeck, RetroArch | Tux Machines | Mar 30 16:56 | |
| XRevan86 | The original (super expensive of course) design had flawed ventilation and the palace molded. | Mar 30 16:56 |
| techrights-news | โDennis is a free software game developer in his spare time.โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ | Mar 30 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights | Mar 30 16:56 | |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163151 | Mar 30 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 16:57 | |
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| techrights-news | Dude, only NSApple is allowed to do THAT https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/apple_watch_tracking_allegations/ | Mar 30 16:59 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/YQ79Kz5.jpeg | Mar 30 17:01 |
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| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: better than humans | Mar 30 17:02 |
| XRevan86 | Also a lot of previous understandings of how the Russian rulership works flew out of the window when it became evident that the Russian "elite" can suffer huge losses and still do nothing. | Mar 30 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in the West | Mar 30 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is not a Russian problem | Mar 30 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Russia just has it too | Mar 30 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | What ELSE could it do? | Mar 30 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | the oligarchs don't have nukes | Mar 30 17:04 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they rely on the Army being on their side too | Mar 30 17:04 |
| MinceR | 30 180234 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: better than humans | Mar 30 17:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 30 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why you post pussy pics (cat pics) | Mar 30 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | bigs cats love humans | Mar 30 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | Looks like Putin can do *anything* and don't have this authority threatened. Even absolute monarchs of the past didn't have that luxury. | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft loves linux | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: trump fell out of favour | Mar 30 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | But maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. | Mar 30 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the oligarchs found another salesman | Mar 30 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | he tried to stage a coup | Mar 30 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and failed | Mar 30 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | military did not follow, either | Mar 30 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he will retry | Mar 30 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | Trump is too stupid to be successful. | Mar 30 17:07 |
| techrights-news | GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152 | Mar 30 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux Machines | Mar 30 17:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | he contributes to harm to the oligarchs at one point | Mar 30 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | beccause the salesmanship was poor | Mar 30 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | Also not lucky enough. | Mar 30 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the tax cuts | Mar 30 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | Biden does the same | Mar 30 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | Putin was a man at the right place at the right time. | Mar 30 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | without enraging people as much | Mar 30 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he is still holding the reign | Mar 30 17:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | Russia should be rich like South Korea | Mar 30 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for North Korea | Mar 30 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they have a very shitty system | Mar 30 17:08 |
| XRevan86 | s/should be/could have been/ | Mar 30 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | fwiw, usa moved in the same direction | Mar 30 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | uk going there more slowly | Mar 30 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | (than usa) | Mar 30 17:09 |
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| XRevan86 | "same in the West" <- No. | Mar 30 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | Russia doesn't have power of the oligarchs or power of one political party, that would've been half-bad. | Mar 30 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | What it has is power by one unchecked unhinged man. | Mar 30 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | Trump tried to go against everyone else, and failed miserably. | Mar 30 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | That's not an example of the US being similiar to Russia, the opposite in fact. | Mar 30 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | Russia's economy hasn't collapsed yet though, so it's possible that the most interesting developments await us in the future. | Mar 30 17:31 |
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| psydruid | I was told Yeltsin not only recommended Putin but even appointed him, which he later came to regret | Mar 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2129.html | Mar 30 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Mar 30 17:36 | |
| XRevan86 | "which he later came to regret" <- Never heard that. | Mar 30 17:36 |
| psydruid | I was wondering about that too | Mar 30 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Are ye sure ye didn't mean Berezovsky? | Mar 30 17:37 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, someone told me in some other chat, but that part of Russian history is a bit unclear to me, so I don't really know who is who apart from Yeltsin and Putin (and some others like Medvedev and Lebedev) | Mar 30 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Berezovsky is an oligarch that recommended Putin to Yeltsin and funded his party and campaign. | Mar 30 17:40 |
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| XRevan86 | But after the election he quickly moved into opposition to Putin. | Mar 30 17:41 |
| matey | XRevan86 the mitm theory is good, its half the reason usa went back to iraq | Mar 30 17:41 |
| matey | you can have the oil, we just want it enumerated in dollars please | Mar 30 17:41 |
| kingoffrance | "Trump tried to go against everyone else, and failed miserably." subjectively. objectively pure idolatry "love your country with all your heart, all your soul". he was 100% protect the oligarchy, they are put there by "god". monarchy on the lee plan | Mar 30 17:42 |
| kingoffrance | it was entirely the "image" of an outsider | Mar 30 17:42 |
| matey | trump is the image of an extraterrestrial | Mar 30 17:42 |
| matey | as a cover, he hates illegal "aliens" | Mar 30 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: "I was told X not only recommended Putin but even appointed him, which he later came to regret" <- I.e. this can be true if X is Boris Berezovsky. | Mar 30 17:43 |
| kingoffrance | modern major extraterrestrial | Mar 30 17:43 |
| matey | the very model of a | Mar 30 17:43 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Mar 30 17:43 |
| kingoffrance | i know! -- lee | Mar 30 17:43 |
| matey | tom lehrer not so much of a g&s fan | Mar 30 17:43 |
| matey | but does a marvelous parody of them | Mar 30 17:44 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, maybe that person wasn't clear enough about what they meant, but the name Berezovsky does ring a bell | Mar 30 17:44 |
| kingoffrance | *i dont think [there are aliens] i know! | Mar 30 17:44 |
| matey | todd rundgren does a wonderful tribute, its one of my favourite songs of his | Mar 30 17:44 |
| matey | it would be amusing if lehrer secretly loved the and rundgren secretly hated them | Mar 30 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: He was featured in the Puppets episode that I referenced here several times. | Mar 30 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | The one that sparked one of the first Putin's repressive moves. | Mar 30 17:46 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, is it up somewhere? I must have missed that or generally not been aware of it | Mar 30 17:46 |
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| XRevan86 | psydruid: https://youtu.be/eZJx9bgwdv0 sure | Mar 30 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eZJx9bgwdv0 | Mar 30 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Dolls - Story of Putin - Little Zaches WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES - Invidious | Mar 30 17:47 | |
| matey | adding to the incredible austrian cities of fucking and windpassing | Mar 30 17:47 |
| matey | and of course "scunthorpe" | Mar 30 17:48 |
| matey | russia has a city called "brest" | Mar 30 17:48 |
| psydruid | belarus? | Mar 30 17:48 |
| matey | maybe | Mar 30 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: The last time I mentioned it was because "Zaches" starts with a "Z" :) | Mar 30 17:49 |
| matey | my geography is notoriously shit | Mar 30 17:49 |
| matey | is it belarus? | Mar 30 17:49 |
| psydruid | ๐ | Mar 30 17:49 |
| psydruid | yes | Mar 30 17:49 |
| matey | thank you | Mar 30 17:49 |
| matey | at least i might get it next time | Mar 30 17:49 |
| psydruid | I lived in Poland for a while and been around the country quite a bit | Mar 30 17:49 |
| matey | /me wouldnt make it 2 fucking minutes on jeopardy | Mar 30 17:49 |
| psydruid | more so than many Polish people | Mar 30 17:49 |
| matey | when i moved places i often find people know very little about where they live | Mar 30 17:50 |
| matey | in terms of trivia | Mar 30 17:50 |
| matey | they know where stuff is, but not how it got there | Mar 30 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | "[belarus] has a city called "brest"" <- What's the importance of this fact? | Mar 30 17:51 |
| matey | names that are moderately amusing in english. | Mar 30 17:51 |
| matey | but nothing beats fucking, austria | Mar 30 17:51 |
| psydruid | there is another brest in France | Mar 30 17:51 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently Anglophones love the Russian name Semen. | Mar 30 17:52 |
| matey | Semen <- hehehe | Mar 30 17:52 |
| matey | if i hadnt mentioned it i wouldnt have known | Mar 30 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had a goalkeeper | Mar 30 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | david seamen | Mar 30 17:52 |
| matey | oh in the south they had a governor named boner | Mar 30 17:52 |
| matey | bill boner | Mar 30 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | matey: :) | Mar 30 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | bohner | Mar 30 17:52 |
| matey | no it was actually spelled boner | Mar 30 17:53 |
| XRevan86 | The accent is on the second syllable though, and in modern Russian it's an รถ sound. | Mar 30 17:53 |
| XRevan86 | s/accent/stress/ | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Seaman | Mar 30 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | David Seaman - Wikipedia | Mar 30 17:53 | |
| XRevan86 | So it doesn't actually sound like "semen". | Mar 30 17:53 |
| psydruid | Syemyon? | Mar 30 17:53 |
| XRevan86 | yea | Mar 30 17:53 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Boner | Mar 30 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bill Boner - Wikipedia | Mar 30 17:54 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR wouldn't understand :) | Mar 30 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | (he doesn't get "stress") | Mar 30 17:54 |
| schestowitz | http://barryhugmansfootballers.com/player/17659 | Mar 30 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-barryhugmansfootballers.com | Barry Hugman's Footballers - Davidย Seaman | Mar 30 17:54 | |
| XRevan86 | Really don't know how MinceR speaks English when the schwa is the most common vowel in English, and it can never be stressed :) | Mar 30 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | he became a big fat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOjTGVVuOg | Mar 30 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1jOjTGVVuOg | Mar 30 17:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | โI Couldโve Signed For MAN UTD Instead of ARSENALโ | David Seaman | Season 3 Ep #2 - Invidious | Mar 30 17:56 | |
| psydruid | I must say that I am not that aware of the way Hungarian and other Finno-Ugric languages work | Mar 30 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Same, but we know how English works. | Mar 30 17:57 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: with the stress in the wrong place some of the time, probably | Mar 30 17:58 |
| psydruid | I know some, but that's just basic stuff and doesn't give me a thorough understanding | Mar 30 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So ye see the difference between "semen" and "sea-man"? | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | i don't | Mar 30 18:00 |
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| psydruid | I think I understand what XRevan86 means now | Mar 30 18:01 |
| psydruid | a problem is that this isn't reflected in the spelling | Mar 30 18:03 |
| psydruid | which makes Russian harder than other Slavic languages in this respect at least | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | well, at least when teaching people russian, stress is marked | Mar 30 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: I don't think ye do. | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | i pretty much never saw english text with the stress marked | Mar 30 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | Because stress is not reflected in English spelling either, and I'm using English as an example here. | Mar 30 18:05 |
| MinceR | afaik in russian spelling, stress is also often omitted | Mar 30 18:05 |
| MinceR | e.g. in newspapers | Mar 30 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | (I did hear some people mis-stress words in English, albeit rarer than in Russian) | Mar 30 18:05 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, I'm approaching this not from English, but from other Slavic languages I speak (Polish, Ukrainian and Serbian) | Mar 30 18:06 |
| MinceR | afaik even ั is just written as ะต | Mar 30 18:06 |
| psydruid | maybe that's a curse or a blessing, depending on how you look at it | Mar 30 18:07 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: I am still not completely sure what the true stress in Ukrainian is in some words. | Mar 30 18:07 |
| XRevan86 | There is some variation there, and I'm not always sure what the literary norm is. | Mar 30 18:08 |
| psydruid | ะกะตะผะตะฝะพะฒ = "Syemyenov"? | Mar 30 18:08 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: In Russian "ะกะตะผัะฝะพะฒ" is "S'em'รถnov", where the first two consonants are iotated, as represented by the ' marker. | Mar 30 18:10 |
| psydruid | Ah, it makes sense now | Mar 30 18:10 |
| psydruid | and the ยจ are usually omitted in writing? | Mar 30 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | If this were a Ukrainian surname, it would've looked like "ะกะตะผะตะฝัะฒ" i.e. "Semeniv" | Mar 30 18:11 |
| psydruid | yes | Mar 30 18:11 |
| psydruid | which makes things a lot easier | Mar 30 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | Because of the lack of iotation, or because the historical eโรถ is always represented in writing (either with "ะพ" or with "ัะพ" depending on whether the iotation remained) | Mar 30 18:12 |
| XRevan86 | "ััะพะณะพะดะฝั" ("s'รถhodni"), "ัะพะผั" ("chomu") | Mar 30 18:13 |
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| matey | knocked offline by putlin | Mar 30 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Would ye know in advance where the stress in "ะบรดะผะฝะฐัะฐ" is? | Mar 30 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | j/him putlin? | Mar 30 18:14 |
| matey | so i learned something cool about brest, more interesting than the name | Mar 30 18:14 |
| matey | j/him putlin? <- i dont know his preferred pronouns | Mar 30 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | that is's natural? | Mar 30 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, jim zemlin | Mar 30 18:15 |
| *XRevan86 used that spelling because it can help me make an observation later. | Mar 30 18:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the imperial guy | Mar 30 18:15 |
| matey | turns out brest is where hitler first invaded when he decided (foolishly) to take on the ussr | Mar 30 18:15 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, I think it's on the first, but I wouldn't know why that would be the case | Mar 30 18:15 |
| matey | now theres this guy doing an eastern european pub crawl of sorts | Mar 30 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: In Ukrainian? | Mar 30 18:16 |
| matey | and hes in vitebsk saying how the streets have the coolest names | Mar 30 18:16 |
| matey | "red army street" | Mar 30 18:16 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, oh, no idea about that | Mar 30 18:16 |
| psydruid | how should one know? | Mar 30 18:16 |
| psydruid | *could? | Mar 30 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: No idea honestly :). But it's actually on the second syllable. | Mar 30 18:16 |
| psydruid | and in Russian? | Mar 30 18:17 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR i have no problem with people calling him putler if they prefer-- close enough | Mar 30 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: The first syllable. | Mar 30 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ะบะพะผะฝะฐัะฐ#Russian "Old East Slavic ะบะพะผะฝะฐัะฐ (komnata), from Latin camฤซnฤta, probably through Old High German keminฤta as evidenced by the initial stress" | Mar 30 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | ะบะพะผะฝะฐัะฐ - Wiktionary | Mar 30 18:17 | |
| matey | though personally i think putlin is even more fitting | Mar 30 18:17 |
| psydruid | that's how I knew | Mar 30 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I once read that zemlin might be a russian name | Mar 30 18:17 |
| psydruid | only for Russian apparently ๐ | Mar 30 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | zemlin and zemlina | Mar 30 18:17 |
| matey | since thats obviously what he aspires to | Mar 30 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Now here's the kicker: in Ukrainian "o" transitioned to "i" only in stressed positions. | Mar 30 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not germanic as I initially assumed | Mar 30 18:18 |
| techrights-news | "Having downloaded the Steam Deck recovery image and written to a USB using 'Rufus', I was surprised that booting on various AMD mini PCs has so far been unsuccessful whereas after just a few tweaks it successfully booted on a couple of different Intel NUCs." https://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2022/03/first-look-at-steamos-3.html | Mar 30 18:18 |
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| matey | zemlin always makes me think of a failed clear wine cooler like drink from the 1990s | Mar 30 18:18 |
| matey | called zima | Mar 30 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: In unstressed positions it sometimes shifts to "u" like in "ัะฑะปัะบะพ", "ััััะด" | Mar 30 18:18 |
| matey | i think they wanted to be a wine cooler aimed at the male demographic. that failed, and mikes hard succeeded shortly thereafter | Mar 30 18:18 |
| matey | because men like wine coolers too dammit | Mar 30 18:18 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, that's why you get things like rัะบ -> ัะพะบัะฒ? | Mar 30 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: I think that Ukrainian moved through a stress shift *after* the phonetic shift. | Mar 30 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | * lived through | Mar 30 18:19 |
| psydruid | that's interesting | Mar 30 18:19 |
| matey | and yes, as it happens i believe boner was in office when mikes hard became popular | Mar 30 18:19 |
| techrights-news | This isn't Linux news, Liam. You're posting marketing BS for Intel/x86, which undermines the planet, security, fair competition etc. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/intel-arc-graphics-launches-for-laptops-desktop-gpus-later-this-year/ | Mar 30 18:19 |
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| matey | probably a coincidence, but theres nothing like being in the right place at the right time | Mar 30 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Wiktionary gives both ัะพฬะบัะฒ and ัะพะบัฬะฒ | Mar 30 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: I only heard "ัะพฬะบัะฒ" myself. So the other variant is probably archaic and/or regional. | Mar 30 18:20 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_(drink) | Mar 30 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zima (drink) - Wikipedia | Mar 30 18:20 | |
| psydruid | zemlin, from zemlja? or zima? | Mar 30 18:20 |
| psydruid | the latter being winter? | Mar 30 18:21 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yUcq9_IsnXM | Mar 30 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zima commercial (1994) - Invidious | Mar 30 18:21 | |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: "that's interesting" <- Thanks, I'm pretty confident in that this is actually the case :). | Mar 30 18:21 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, thanks for unravelling the mystery ๐ | Mar 30 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemlin earth | Mar 30 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zemlin - Wikipedia | Mar 30 18:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: no, not that | Mar 30 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw zemlina | Mar 30 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | context was, finding if he was lying | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | about his grandpa | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | which seems possible | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he claimed he eas a cray co-founder | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I think is BS | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | Jim is full of BS | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | also claimed he could speak japanese | Mar 30 18:22 |
| matey | well he runs the linux foundation on a mac so | Mar 30 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe as he was some one-year exchnge student | Mar 30 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Fun fact: Putin's wife's surname was Putina. | Mar 30 18:22 |
| matey | no he said he was "turning japanese" | Mar 30 18:22 |
| matey | or at least he thought so | Mar 30 18:22 |
| psydruid | he's a supermac | Mar 30 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Maybe that will give a hint on "Zemlina". | Mar 30 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | *exchange | Mar 30 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | torvalds accomplished a lot: Linux, Git | Mar 30 18:23 |
| MinceR | Lenina Huxley | Mar 30 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin was a loser, whose career had failed and reached a dead end | Mar 30 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: That also throws a wrench into that Ukrainian's stress is somehow more intuitive than Russian's :) | Mar 30 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | he wanted to do cooking for a living | Mar 30 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Both are complicated. In my perspective, equally complicated. | Mar 30 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | s/perspective/estimation/ | Mar 30 18:24 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4 | Mar 30 18:24 |
| schestowitz | watch this | Mar 30 18:24 |
| matey | if id been of drinking age when zima was around, i would have skipped it just because the commercials make macs look less douchebaggy | Mar 30 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've met people like james zemlin in my life | Mar 30 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're imposters | Mar 30 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | with fake credentials | Mar 30 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like spamnil and james zemlin | Mar 30 18:25 |
| matey | you act like you knew zemlin in school and he was a dick to you personally | Mar 30 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | incidentally, sheela and james proped up spamni | Mar 30 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:56] <techrights-news> SPAMnil, who ruined LINUX.COM, seems to have broken a new record. 9 videos views in 8 days. I reckon those views are just SPAMnil and his "guest" checking that the video works. GulagTube says he has 22.2k subscribers. I LOL. | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | i dont doubt that most of what you say about him is true | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | it just seems personal | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | look what they did | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to linux | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to lf | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to torvalds | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | sending him to therapists | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | torvalds was a dick too, honestly | Mar 30 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | something stalin would do | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | yeah the therapists thing was a really stalin like move i know | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | i was going to say it before you did | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | its true | Mar 30 18:26 |
| matey | torvalds was a dick-- zemlin is a bigger dick | Mar 30 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Though there are also oโi's in prepositions and such, their origin is still a mystery to me. | Mar 30 18:27 |
| matey | someone will be an even bigger dick than zemlin | Mar 30 18:27 |
| matey | open source eats their own | Mar 30 18:27 |
| matey | theres always someone worse | Mar 30 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | zemlin will be out the moment he starts behaving | Mar 30 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, not being a shill | Mar 30 18:27 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, can you give some examples? | Mar 30 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember: | Mar 30 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to "respect Microsoft | Mar 30 18:28 |
| matey | what are the odds of zemlin not being a shill? hes 100% shameless | Mar 30 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: pod- โ pid-, etc. | Mar 30 18:28 |
| matey | a puppet through and through | Mar 30 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft Director: Microsoft bribes officials all around | Mar 30 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zemlin :we need to "respect Microsoft" | Mar 30 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsck /home/zemlin | Mar 30 18:28 |
| matey | holding microsoft accountable for crimes against humanity is like kicking a puppy! | Mar 30 18:28 |
| psydruid | kick that puppy hard! | Mar 30 18:29 |
| techrights-news | Games: SteamOS 3, Ubisoft Connect, and Crowns And Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163153 | Mar 30 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamOS 3, Ubisoft Connect, and Crowns And Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit | Tux Machines | Mar 30 18:29 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: it's not a puppy | Mar 30 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | It's the NewPuppy | Mar 30 18:29 |
| matey | microsoft suspending the puppy linux website is like | Mar 30 18:29 |
| matey | its like | Mar 30 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | aka EasyOS | Mar 30 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: If I ever find out that they used to be said with additional stress (like a separate word), that would be cool :) | Mar 30 18:30 |
| matey | XRevan86 james doohan fans | Mar 30 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | bashing Microsoft is like kicking puppy OFFLINE | Mar 30 18:30 |
| matey | there you go | Mar 30 18:30 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, we're going to find out the truth eventuall | Mar 30 18:30 |
| psydruid | y ๐ | Mar 30 18:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR | criticising putin is like kicking kittens | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | criticising putin is like kicking pussy riot | Mar 30 18:31 |
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| XRevan86 | psydruid: I'm sure it's no secret, but it's not like I can just put "did prepositions in old east slavic have additional stress" into a search engine and find an answer. | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to respect putin | Mar 30 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | or "why did oโi occur in prepositions in ukrainians if it generally happened with a stressed vowel" | Mar 30 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | * in ukrainian | Mar 30 18:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | open source loves putin | Mar 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Jim-Zemlin-Open-Source-Loves-Microsoft.webm | Mar 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | open source loves putin is code for "keep sending me money, putin" | Mar 30 18:33 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, maybe there is a way to reach out to the Slavic department at some Russian (or global) university | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF will collapse one day, like all things, but it can take a few years more | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | their lack of IRS filings is a sign of something not happening right | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the CFO of LF left that year, too | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the new CFO did release IRS filing to an offshoot of LF | Mar 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ | Mar 30 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights | Mar 30 18:34 | |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: It's not like I have any use for this information to bother people :) | Mar 30 18:34 |
| matey | turns out zima means winter | Mar 30 18:34 |
| psydruid | yes | Mar 30 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: The stress thing is likely to just be a subset of the broader phenomenon. | Mar 30 18:34 |
| psydruid | zemestan in Persian | Mar 30 18:34 |
| techrights-news | Free and open source level editor LDtk 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux โ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/free-and-open-source-level-designer-ldtk-10-is-out-now/ ไท Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Mar 30 18:35 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/free-and-open-source-level-designer-ldtk-10-is-out-now/ | Mar 30 18:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source level editor LDtk 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 18:35 | |
| matey | they spent 38 million dollars (in 1990s dollars) on the most dumbfuck adverts ever conceived | Mar 30 18:35 |
| psydruid | himalaya -> abode in the cold | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: name original does not matter much | Mar 30 18:35 |
| psydruid | winter abode | Mar 30 18:35 |
| matey | adobe = left in the cold | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just saw it in passing | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | alleged russian roots | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's not what I was after | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried to get his grandpa's name | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thought I had found it | Mar 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but nothing backs his claims about Cray | Mar 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he partly made it up | Mar 30 18:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | what is cPanel CA? I'm suspicious about it | Mar 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make him look like he had CS pedigree | Mar 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | he fakes it | Mar 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | in an interview with spamnil | Mar 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | SomeH4x0r: proprietary software | Mar 30 18:36 |
| *psydruid knows an Indian chef with a CS degree in Dublin | Mar 30 18:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | cpanel became buddies with canonical this year | Mar 30 18:37 |
| SomeH4x0r | I don't care about licenses tbh, just wondering if they are MITM | Mar 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | LF is half imposters | Mar 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have some geeks, but not many | Mar 30 18:37 |
| MinceR | afaik torvalds was a dick to people who deserved it | Mar 30 18:37 |
| MinceR | zemlin isn't | Mar 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: mostly | Mar 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot put a number on it | Mar 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: it's 1) cultural and 2) arguably good | Mar 30 18:38 |
| AdmFubar | help help the paranoids are after me https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-search-ai-mum-help | Mar 30 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google search AI uses MUM to flag queries for help - Protocol | Mar 30 18:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | HEY HI | Mar 30 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | HELP, IMA GETTING OUTTA THIS GULAG | Mar 30 18:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | they keep trying to market spying as | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) fitness | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) health | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3)safety | Mar 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/03/23/scabrous | Mar 30 18:39 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: penny-arcade.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/03/23/scabrous | Mar 30 18:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Scabrous - Penny Arcade | Mar 30 18:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I took note of it years prior to COVID | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they try to glorify spying as a personal benefit | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you arer missing out!!" | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "google doesn't have a microphone and gps coords on you!!" | Mar 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "how can they save you???" | Mar 30 18:39 |
| psydruid | I always thought computers would and should be integrated into our personal lives | Mar 30 18:39 |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@mdq92rkmjqcqs.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 18:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | computer are OK | Mar 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | wqith consent and understanding | Mar 30 18:40 |
| psydruid | but not that those tech companies would use those against their buyers | Mar 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | they enocourage implied and non-consent | Mar 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on misconception | Mar 30 18:40 |
| psydruid | why would you ever do that? | Mar 30 18:40 |
| psydruid | I got a fitbit from my workplace once | Mar 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the 'ankle bracelet' called apple watch | Mar 30 18:40 |
| psydruid | I left it in my drawer and never used it | Mar 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not a gift | Mar 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, not for you anyway | Mar 30 18:41 |
| psydruid | it's a trojan horse | Mar 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | employers love giving 'free' phones | Mar 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | they become devices that let them pester you at home | Mar 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you cannot complain | Mar 30 18:41 |
| matey | turns out it wasnt even a wine cooler | Mar 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a 'gift' after all | Mar 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | a torjan gift | Mar 30 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: How is stress in Polish by the way? Is it as complicated as in its Eastern counterparts or is there some kind of intuitive system that people follow without thinking and always succeed? | Mar 30 18:41 |
| matey | it was a clear beer that they wanted to AVOID looking like a wine cooler | Mar 30 18:41 |
| matey | and people (like jim zemlin) still drink it-- in japab | Mar 30 18:41 |
| matey | japan | Mar 30 18:41 |
| matey | (while speaking japanese) | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | he never spoke japanese, even in japan | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I checked | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he spoke nippon, he's say something in the japan event | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but nothing | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | even suckerfuck faked knowing mandarin | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | by memorising a bunch of nonsense | Mar 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that he and fieve eyes (japan not in there yet) can spy on china, too | Mar 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it didn't work | Mar 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | china doesn't want his trojan horse | Mar 30 18:43 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMww | Mar 30 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Vapors - Turning Japanese - Invidious | Mar 30 18:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | zemlin knows japanese like rms knows indonesian | Mar 30 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and like i know some languages | Mar 30 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | that i don't really know | Mar 30 18:44 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, I haven't progressed with my Polish from years ago, but I don't think it's as complicated as in the Eastern counterparts. From what I know stress is usually on the penultimate syllable, if there are 2 or more syllables | Mar 30 18:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | or forgot | Mar 30 18:44 |
| matey | that guy looks like jimmy fallon as a standin for mike myers as dieter from sprockets | Mar 30 18:44 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> zemlin knows japanese like rms knows indonesian <- or portuguese :( | Mar 30 18:46 |
| techrights-news | How proprietary socialcontrolmedia shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy โ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article904/how-proprietary-social-medias-are-shaping-the-future-of-peppercarrot ไท Source: davidrevoy | Mar 30 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | How proprietary social-medias are shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy | Mar 30 18:47 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | matey: keep the bottle away from james | Mar 30 18:48 |
| psydruid | he speaks Spanish, though | Mar 30 18:48 |
| psydruid | and Russian? | Mar 30 18:48 |
| matey | yes, he speaks spanish | Mar 30 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | i imagine rms has at least one parent from eastern europe | Mar 30 18:48 |
| matey | ancestor at least | Mar 30 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, one who spoke that at home | Mar 30 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like lithuanian or something | Mar 30 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | lippman | Mar 30 18:49 |
| matey | he likes bulgarian folk dancing, its his favourite | Mar 30 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | bulgarian, eh? | Mar 30 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | my material grandparents both born there | Mar 30 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | *maternal | Mar 30 18:51 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163154 | Mar 30 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 18:52 | |
| techrights-news | You cannot learn Qt. You can learn the APIs, but Qt is again proprietary software, so you cannot learn how it works. https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-learn-qt | Mar 30 18:54 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: qt.io | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-learn-qt | Mar 30 18:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | How to learn Qt? | Mar 30 18:54 | |
| matey | the free software song is based on "sadi moma" a classic bulgarian folk tune | Mar 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | i thought he likes listening to music from indonesia | Mar 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | when he was young | Mar 30 18:54 |
| matey | /me giggles at encyclopedia dramaatica | Mar 30 18:55 |
| matey | they said gnu stands for "gnus not usable" | Mar 30 18:55 |
| techrights-news | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163155 | Mar 30 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 30 18:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ha | Mar 30 18:55 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40 | Mar 30 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40 | Mar 30 18:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Soulja Boy crank dat, MIT style - Invidious | Mar 30 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40 | Mar 30 18:57 |
| matey | ะ ััะฐัะด | Mar 30 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | Dimitry Potapenko, an economist, says that the reason Putin's put this ultimatum is to attempt to nullify the contracts and force gas buyers to make a new one. | Mar 30 18:57 |
| techrights-news | "Smart" things https://www.maketecheasier.com/verizon-spam-texts-from-their-own-numbers/ | Mar 30 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Verizon Customers Getting Spam Texts from Their Own Numbers - Make Tech Easier | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| XRevan86 | The reason being is that the gas on the market is *a lot* more expensive than what Europe pays. | Mar 30 18:58 |
| matey | jeni.com says stallman has a father named daniel j and a brother named adam s stallman | Mar 30 18:58 |
| matey | ive never heard of adam stallman | Mar 30 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | Actuallyโฆ ^ activelow, this is important. | Mar 30 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: the pizza is on the way | Mar 30 18:58 |
| techrights-news | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 3 โ https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-5-beta-3 ไท Source: godotengine | Mar 30 18:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: godotengine.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-5-beta-3 | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 3 | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| matey | oh dear | Mar 30 18:59 |
| matey | it says maurice lippman is his stepfather | Mar 30 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, ok | Mar 30 18:59 |
| matey | this is a geneology website | Mar 30 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know he was raised by his mom | Mar 30 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | that book about him | Mar 30 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | to which she supplied a photo of him as a pupil | Mar 30 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | adam s stallman | Mar 30 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | another hacker | Mar 30 19:00 |
| matey | Adam Stallman - Senior Software Engineer - International Business Machines | Mar 30 19:00 |
| matey | you dont suppose... | Mar 30 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but bad initials | Mar 30 19:00 |
| matey | yes not the best | Mar 30 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | Kicks adam s stallman | Mar 30 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | matey: What do ye think about that idea? | Mar 30 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe Adam LOVES systemd | Mar 30 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | "100% of the time" | Mar 30 19:01 |
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| XRevan86 | Maybe activelow had a point when he said that Russia is selling gas crazy cheap. Maybe that's the problem. | Mar 30 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but check the age | Mar 30 19:01 |
| matey | <XRevan86> matey: What do ye think about that idea <- should i scroll up? | Mar 30 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | he'd have to be like retirement age | Mar 30 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | And Putin tried to cause a force major, and cause the long-term contract to fall apart. | Mar 30 19:01 |
| matey | i mean i thought the video psydroid showed was plausible enough | Mar 30 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM: RMS needs to step down. We need more diversity | Mar 30 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM: here, now let ASS take charge | Mar 30 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Regarding Putin's statement on that gas should be sold for rubles. | Mar 30 19:03 |
| activelow | XRevan86: i think the demand Russia accounts foreign trade with Rubles at their central bank is an absolutely legitimate demand | Mar 30 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM <3 ASS ASS | Mar 30 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | (SS | Mar 30 19:03 |
| matey | i dont believe adam stallman is with us anymore Adam S. Stallman: Birthdate: estimated between 1929 and 1985 : Death: Immediate Family: Son of Daniel J. Stallman and Private Brother of Richard Matthew Stallman | Mar 30 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: It already fell apart. | Mar 30 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: But it's likely that the attempt was to make gas more expensive for Europe. | Mar 30 19:04 |
| XRevan86 | Ten times. | Mar 30 19:04 |
| activelow | too this is important to fight corruption; since currently Russia/Putin are accused of expensive oil/gas/energy supplies (an EU propaganda lie), when instead Russia is selling rather cheap, and it is Euro and USD cheating with excess taxation and reseller-margins | Mar 30 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it sounds like it's really the sibling | Mar 30 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he passed away, we need to change subject | Mar 30 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | Haven't heard anyone say that Russia's gas is expensive. | Mar 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | in respect | Mar 30 19:05 |
| SomeH4x0r | dead don't see chats | Mar 30 19:05 |
| SomeH4x0r | *the dead | Mar 30 19:05 |
| activelow | btw. this was the spiritual root of Putin and Medvedev, to fight corruption (within Russia), now this fight is fought elsewhere too | Mar 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it hurts relatives | Mar 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and as far as e know he did nothing wrong | Mar 30 19:05 |
| SomeH4x0r | don't invite relatives here | Mar 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and IBM said Hitler did nothing wrong | Mar 30 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: "this was the spiritual root of Putin and Medvedev, to fight corruption (within Russia)" <- They ARE the corruption. | Mar 30 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye fell for a populist stunt. An outdated one at that! | Mar 30 19:06 |
| activelow | XRevan86: maybe | Mar 30 19:06 |
| matey | this is all wrong | Mar 30 19:06 |
| matey | "Alice married Maurice Lippman in 1948, at age 12." | Mar 30 19:06 |
| matey | what? no | Mar 30 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | They no longer play in anti-corruption, not a thing. | Mar 30 19:06 |
| activelow | nonetheless it isn't surprising, those corrupt criminals in German government and EU don't appreciate this, their corruption and criminal activity is addressed now | Mar 30 19:06 |
| matey | thats got to be a typo | Mar 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe engaged? | Mar 30 19:07 |
| matey | https://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_lippman | Mar 30 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.myheritage.com | NO TITLE | Mar 30 19:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | like ina religious context? | Mar 30 19:07 |
| matey | i have no idea, im sure its not accurate | Mar 30 19:07 |
| matey | it also said that she died in 2017 at age 81 | Mar 30 19:07 |
| matey | that means she would be 86 if still around | Mar 30 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, that would be strange... | Mar 30 19:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless she had rms when she was very young | Mar 30 19:08 |
| matey | and a teenage mother to rms | Mar 30 19:08 |
| matey | well its not physically impossible | Mar 30 19:08 |
| matey | married at age 12 was not legal even in 1948 | Mar 30 19:08 |
| matey | thats got to be a typo | Mar 30 19:08 |
| matey | i posted the url (it was the first hit in a search) so you see where i got it from | Mar 30 19:09 |
| activelow | recently they boasted again about their solar panels and wind mill (subsidy fraud), which require billions of tons of steel, coal and energy to produce, supplied from... a voila... Russia/Ukraine | Mar 30 19:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | sher married TWO people aged 12? | Mar 30 19:10 |
| activelow | that's why solar industry in germany was whining recently, about lack of supply of raw materials to produce those panels | Mar 30 19:10 |
| activelow | and i bet, if sanctions hit, the dozen of tons of steel required for a wind turbine cannot be produced anymore either, without russian gas/coal/oil/energy | Mar 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: could be data mix-up | Mar 30 19:10 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> sher married TWO people aged 12? <- maybe some trolls have submitted false geneological data | Mar 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | " | Mar 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Alice Lippman (born Unknown Stallman), 1936 - 2017 | Mar 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Alice Lippman was born in 1936. | Mar 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Alice married Daniel J Stallman in 1948, at age 12. | Mar 30 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Alice then married Maurice Lippman in 1948, at age 12. | Mar 30 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Alice passed away in 2017, at age 81. | Mar 30 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | " | Mar 30 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would help discredit, yes | Mar 30 19:11 |
| matey | maybe (not a joke) the people who hacked his website in 2019 also submitted false geneological data | Mar 30 19:11 |
| matey | that would be a low blow | Mar 30 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't preclude as possibility | Mar 30 19:11 |
| matey | i just found this a few minutes ago by the way | Mar 30 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | try to cross-correlate | Mar 30 19:12 |
| matey | including that he had a brother | Mar 30 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with another source | Mar 30 19:12 |
| matey | well yes, but you cant cross correlate until you find the first source | Mar 30 19:12 |
| matey | and i JUST found this minutes ago | Mar 30 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_lippman# | Mar 30 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.myheritage.com | NO TITLE | Mar 30 19:12 | |
| matey | i was instantly sceptical of it | Mar 30 19:12 |
| matey | it reeks of error | Mar 30 19:13 |
| matey | i would sooner believe she was 22 and someone has fat fingers | Mar 30 19:13 |
| matey | im not throwing out the malicious data sent in theory (its more remote but im keeping it for now) | Mar 30 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to raised a genius kid or kids at this age | Mar 30 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in these times | Mar 30 19:14 |
| matey | its never easy to raise a gifted kid or to grow up as one | Mar 30 19:14 |
| matey | schools are not made for them | Mar 30 19:14 |
| matey | i mean most schools are not | Mar 30 19:15 |
| matey | they dont know what to do with them | Mar 30 19:15 |
| matey | "give them more work i guess" | Mar 30 19:15 |
| matey | "hes been able to do this since he was 6" "okay, well he can do twice as much of it" | Mar 30 19:15 |
| matey | "youre not teaching him anything though" | Mar 30 19:15 |
| matey | "well, he has to do something" | Mar 30 19:15 |
| matey | this is literally how it works | Mar 30 19:16 |
| matey | they dont like to skip people because socially its bad | Mar 30 19:17 |
| techrights-news | systemd-sysupdate?????????????? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-251-rc1 | Mar 30 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd 251-rc1 Released With Experimental systemd-sysupdate Tool - Phoronix | Mar 30 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | "- A new component "systemd-sysupdate" has been added that automatically discovers / downloads / installs A/B style updates for the host installation itself or container images / portable service images. Systemd-sysupdate is currently considered experimental. This OS updating tool has been worked on by Red Hat / systemd developers going back to last summer. " | Mar 30 19:17 |
| matey | plus if youre ahead in some things-- not necessarily everything | Mar 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | systemd is just an init system | Mar 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | don't panic | Mar 30 19:17 |
| matey | Systemd-sysupdate is currently considered experimental <- the whole bloody thing is experimental | Mar 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | me remembers when system updates updated init systemd | Mar 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | not the other way around | Mar 30 19:18 |
| matey | gnu/linux is an init system and rust is one of its kernels | Mar 30 19:18 |
| matey | anyway, mincer tried to tell you so | Mar 30 19:18 |
| matey | /me didnt even know until years later | Mar 30 19:18 |
| matey | its not an init system, its a (anti)social experiment | Mar 30 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | anti-system-systemd | Mar 30 19:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | ASS | Mar 30 19:19 |
| matey | advanced rust systemd enhancements | Mar 30 19:21 |
| matey | the reason theyre redoing everything in a single c project | Mar 30 19:22 |
| matey | is so they can translate it to rust once its "stable" | Mar 30 19:22 |
| matey | linux and systemd will be redone in rust at the same time | Mar 30 19:22 |
| matey | after they merge into the same codebase | Mar 30 19:22 |
| matey | first comes linuxd, then linuxd will be rewritten in rust | Mar 30 19:22 |
| matey | then rust will be reimplemented in r# | Mar 30 19:23 |
| matey | then the internet (the infrastructure itself) will suicide in an attempt to save mankind | Mar 30 19:23 |
| matey | or something like that | Mar 30 19:23 |
| matey | throw in some "steel birds" for the hell of it | Mar 30 19:23 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Mar 30 19:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the warning is in the name | Mar 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it will rust | Mar 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | terrible name for a project if you ask me | Mar 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like calling your framework "rot" | Mar 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "decay" | Mar 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | interview question: can you decay? | Mar 30 19:24 |
| activelow | following the mailing list thread further: http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html | Mar 30 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. | Mar 30 19:25 | |
| activelow | aboriginal linux developer too noticed issues with cmake written in c++, python creeping into as build dependency, yet hasn't arrived at the glory of C11 | Mar 30 19:26 |
| activelow | as far as a toolchain was a concern for free software, TinyCC seems the last red line of defense | Mar 30 19:27 |
| activelow | in parallel Landley was involved with j-core too, and the gcc toolchain for it broken 5 years ago; tcc doesn't support j-core at all | Mar 30 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "yes, I can as a matter of fact I've decayed for 15 years already" | Mar 30 19:29 |
| activelow | from a technical standpoint that's noteworthy, projects most concerned with freedom (hardware, software, toolchain), express some hostility towards FSF | Mar 30 19:29 |
| activelow | and the toolchain and bootstrapping issue is a one which affects _all_ supposedly free software | Mar 30 19:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | [14:41] <techrights-news> "This article covers the highlights of the C++ standardization proposals before the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) committee's Core and Evolution Working Groups last year. Read on to find out what's coming in C++23." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/c-standardization-core-language-progress-2021 | Mar 30 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | C++ standardization (core language) progress in 2021 | Red Hat Developer | Mar 30 19:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | also new: | Mar 30 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | [20:23] <techrights-news> "Believe it or not, not everything is based on C. There are current, shipping, commercial OSes written before C was invented, and now others in both newer and older languages that don't involve C at any level or layer." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ | Mar 30 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The weird world of non-C operating systems โข The Register | Mar 30 19:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: so C is freedom | Mar 30 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and other stuff is not? | Mar 30 19:31 |
| activelow | it is a cornerstone of proof, to see which build-time dependencies are required for the toolchain | Mar 30 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | is freedom about low vs high level? | Mar 30 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could do ASM and did a lot of C | Mar 30 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | C is just works or tokens | Mar 30 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | ASM is binary/bits | Mar 30 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the machines are gates | Mar 30 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | proof of concept at what level? | Mar 30 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you trust the asm? | Mar 30 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | without designing the circuits? | Mar 30 19:32 |
| activelow | no, and no, and... no. | Mar 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | then, if you used cad to design the circuit | Mar 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | you then have other things to worry about | Mar 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | both the cad and the fabs | Mar 30 19:33 |
| activelow | that's why aboriginal linux and j-core invested into a free hardware option for linux, which was their turtle board | Mar 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | i see... | Mar 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | how many transistors in it? | Mar 30 19:34 |
| activelow | and then, the toolchain was bricked | Mar 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | for proof of concept it should be just thouands | Mar 30 19:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | you can compensate with high clocking speed | Mar 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's science can clock it fast | Mar 30 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | Be careful what you standardize. It will probably be in use a long time after it makes sense. | Mar 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | without you worrying about what you send the data into | Mar 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | risc-v keeps is simple and still it can run proper programs | Mar 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and smaller teams can adopt it | Mar 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | in bulk | Mar 30 19:35 |
| activelow | risc-v isn't supported by any legacy toolchain or kernel version i am aware of | Mar 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 30 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Vendor crap is going to kill risc-v. | Mar 30 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | It's already made dealing with arm nearly impossible. | Mar 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it is just the reference | Mar 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | intel sank money into ikt | Mar 30 19:36 |
| activelow | if you jump onto the risc-v wagon, then you're locked into recent kernel versions and toolchains, which have issues; and imo, aren't acceptable. | Mar 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe to SINK it | Mar 30 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | One of those government programs is offering poor people cheap computers. | Mar 30 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Someone I know bought one and it came with Windows 11 on a low end Pentium with 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB eMMC. | Mar 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | in most places they call them "smartphones", DaemonFC | Mar 30 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I removed it and put GalliumOS on it instead. | Mar 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | government love those | Mar 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Stalin's dream" | Mar 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | your gov. become the creepy b/f | Mar 30 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I was surprised Windows 11 was so easy to kill. | Mar 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: microsoft was too | Mar 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | one bad system update | Mar 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ZAP! | Mar 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | "wow, josh!" | Mar 30 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft statemennt would mince words | Mar 30 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike MinceR | Mar 30 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "our quality assurance team... something... kindly ask users to wait..." | Mar 30 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: btw, speaking of creepy b/f | Mar 30 19:40 |
| MinceR | https://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FEVLRDoRUEAEBFmr.jpg%3Fname%3Dorig | Mar 30 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell mandy the apple watch is called after its function | Mar 30 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it watches him | Mar 30 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Including heart functions. | Mar 30 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | not parental watching | Mar 30 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | more like creepy uncle | Mar 30 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | It panics people and sends them to the ER and the watch is often wrong. | Mar 30 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to make sure he's not a pedo | Mar 30 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | So they just get a YUUUUUGE hospital bill for no reason. | Mar 30 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need a REAL doctor | Mar 30 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | The number one cause of heart attacks and stroke in the United States is blood pressure. | Mar 30 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | not steve "I'll take nuts to cure cancer" jobs | Mar 30 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Save your crApple Watch money and go to the damned doctor. | Mar 30 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | And get your blood pressure under control. | Mar 30 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 30 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | And you probably won't blow out your heart. | Mar 30 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wallet | Mar 30 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | watches cannot accurately measure it | Mar 30 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's borderline pseudoscience | Mar 30 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, mandy is too young for that | Mar 30 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Stroke damage is often cumulative, as is heart damage. | Mar 30 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, you have a heart attack and your heart cells are dying the entire time. | Mar 30 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | You don't just get over that. | Mar 30 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I wish more doctors would treat hypertension aggressively. | Mar 30 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | shades of covid19 | Mar 30 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | stay the F*(!) away fromcovid | Mar 30 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | my colleagues get sick over and over again | Mar 30 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not getting better | Mar 30 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it batters them | Mar 30 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it's a battering ram. | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have 19 home testing kits | Mar 30 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's not just one and done. | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | back to apple watch | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe if I saw one I'd write about it | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | OI try never to write about stuff that I do not understand fully | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I saw, these accessories are fashion and class statements | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "|doctor apple" | Mar 30 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "an apple watch a day" | Mar 30 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I have a very expensive doctor" | Mar 30 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, people I know of have had COVID 4 times becauset they take no precaution. | Mar 30 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | And you know, avoiding it totally may not be possible, but getting it once is better than four times! | Mar 30 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Mom is still on the denial bandwagon where "Most of the time it isn't serious.". | Mar 30 19:46 |
| techrights-news | LoongArch in GCC https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=LoongArch | Mar 30 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org Git - gcc.git/search | Mar 30 19:46 | |
| DaemonFC | It's like your car. Most cars don't lose their suspension the first time they hit a bad pothole. | Mar 30 19:46 |
| techrights-news | Mesa 22.0.1 Release Notes โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163156 | Mar 30 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 22.0.1 Release Notes | Tux Machines | Mar 30 19:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Keep doing it and you'll ruin your car. | Mar 30 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's cars ruin themselves fast | Mar 30 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | The strategy now is as long as there are hospital beds for COVID patients, they don't really care. | Mar 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and are getting more expensive to repair | Mar 30 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> today's cars ruin themselves fast | Mar 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | previously I gave the example of electirc winmdows | Mar 30 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, mom and Mandy don't get why I have my eye on a Honda Accord base model. | Mar 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot fix these with a screwdriver | Mar 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I remember as a kid | Mar 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then it become impossible to get mechanical windows | Mar 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | *became | Mar 30 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "I need something reliable that's possible to repair without much specialized knowledge, tools, and software, that only a dealer will have." | Mar 30 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | "You get more stuff you can't easily maintain the more expensive the car is.". | Mar 30 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also designed like bikes | Mar 30 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyone can maintain bikes | Mar 30 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are made of pertinent simple components | Mar 30 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make it easy to fix with uniform set of tools | Mar 30 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | last month I went to a bike shop and it's all electric | Mar 30 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't even reveal the wiring and brakes | Mar 30 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I reckon a lot of their income is repairs | Mar 30 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's very proprietary | Mar 30 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had a flat tire, they hardly charged me anything for the inner tube | Mar 30 19:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | cars are the same now | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can a car that looks the same | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then under the skin it's all chips | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot repair chips | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and after 10 years good luck getting compatible replacements | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can still drive cars from the 80s | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's 2022 models won't run in 2050+ | Mar 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | (if humans get that far) | Mar 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "what the fork is this car?" | Mar 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "it's a tesla" | Mar 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "the scientist?" | Mar 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "no, it's some company that lasted some years, pretended to be competitive" | Mar 30 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | " it was run by a psychopathic charlatan who killed himself with OD" | Mar 30 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: my mom's microwave is still going | Mar 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | 30+ years | Mar 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | my stereo is from 1994 | Mar 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | PDA 2002 | Mar 30 19:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Kettle 2021 | Mar 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | RIP | Mar 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a GOOD brand too | Mar 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the cheapest | Mar 30 19:53 |
| techrights-news | Interesting. Will Intel ever move away from Microsoft GitHub and BACK to GitLab? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SVT-AV1-1.0-rc1 | Mar 30 19:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Preparing For SVT-AV1 1.0 Video Encoder With More AVX2 Optimizations - Phoronix | Mar 30 19:55 | |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL for v5.18-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab โ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220322101406.459e2950@coco.lan/ ไท Source: linux | kernel | Mar 30 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL for v5.18-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab | Mar 30 19:55 | |
| techrights-news | Microbell is posting marketing catalogues for Intel again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-arc-a3&num=1 Mobile with wattage like THAT? | Mar 30 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Introduces The Arc A-Series Mobile Graphics - Phoronix | Mar 30 19:56 | |
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| techrights-news | [PATCH v2 0/4] Export PSP security attributes - Mario Limonciello โ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220329164117.1449-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ amd should just remove this malware from ALL chips. It's NOT a security feature. it is the very opposite | Mar 30 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v2 0/4] Export PSP security attributes - Mario Limonciello | Mar 30 19:57 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary software is based on lies https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ftc_tax_intuit/ | Mar 30 19:59 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ftc_tax_intuit/ | Mar 30 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | FTC sues Intuit, claims 'free' TurboTax can be deceptive โข The Register | Mar 30 19:59 | |
| techrights-news | The Register should have clarified this is Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/verblecon_malware_cryptomining/ | Mar 30 20:01 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/verblecon_malware_cryptomining/ | Mar 30 20:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Verblecon malware used in illicit cryptomining โข The Register | Mar 30 20:01 | |
| techrights-news | " After 72 straight hours of researching this spork, taking only a small series of 15-minute naps amid my research, Iโm back with my report: Here are all the weird combination utensils I could find." https://tedium.co/2022/03/30/weird-utensil-history/ | Mar 30 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | 11 Weird Utensils You Probably Arenโt Using | Mar 30 20:06 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: tedium.co | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/30/weird-utensil-history/ | Mar 30 20:06 | |
| techrights-news | Debian selling Web site space (even for Microsoft... for several years in a row) https://bits.debian.org/2022/03/debconf22-lenovo-platinum.html | Mar 30 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.debian.org | Lenovo Platinum Sponsor of DebConf22 - Bits from Debian | Mar 30 20:08 | |
| techrights-news | He shilled CLearLinux -- a distro nobody used and we hardly hear about anymore -- so why not marketing cruft for another Intel "PRODUCT"? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/30/intel-arc-invades-the-dedicated-gpu-market-with-truly-exciting-features/ | Mar 30 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Intel ARC Crashes The Dedicated GPU Party With Truly Exciting Features | Mar 30 20:09 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: forbes.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/30/intel-arc-invades-the-dedicated-gpu-market-with-truly-exciting-features/ | Mar 30 20:09 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 30/03/2022: GNUnet 0.16.3, GParted Live 1.4.0-1, and Mesa 22.0.1 | Techrights โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/mesa-22-0-1/ | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/mesa-22-0-1/ | Mar 30 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/03/2022: GNUnet 0.16.3, GParted Live 1.4.0-1, and Mesa 22.0.1 | Techrights | Mar 30 20:15 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs ๐๐ถ๐น ๐๐ข๐ค๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ด Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163157 | Mar 30 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:16 | |
| techrights-news | Tech skill planning for the greedy and lazy - Invidious โ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ofdo0fONe8A ไท Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Mar 30 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Tech skill planning for the greedy and lazy - Invidious | Mar 30 20:22 | |
| techrights-news | "A Quick overview of KDE neon 20220210." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tc31p7DzS7I excellent distro of GNU/Linux | Mar 30 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | KDE neon 20220210 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious | Mar 30 20:23 | |
| techrights-news | "We just watched Revolution OS before the show, so we reflect on the audacity of their vision and the new revolution we see brewing." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148057/revolution-in-review-coder-radio-459/ | Mar 30 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Revolution in Review | Coder Radio 459 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Mar 30 20:24 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148057/revolution-in-review-coder-radio-459/ | Mar 30 20:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Taiwan-based research firm TrendForce" = marketing disguised as 'science'? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/aws_arm_servers_datacenters/ | Mar 30 20:25 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/aws_arm_servers_datacenters/ | Mar 30 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | AWS to fuel Arm to '22% server penetration rate' by 2025 โข The Register | Mar 30 20:25 | |
| techrights-news | Grifting at taxpayers' expense (as if US taxpayers can pay back) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/tsmc_samsung_chip_subsidies/ | Mar 30 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | TSMC, Samsung want share of $52b US chip subsidies โข The Register | Mar 30 20:26 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/tsmc_samsung_chip_subsidies/ | Mar 30 20:26 | |
| techrights-news | "SciTE is an easy-to-use text editor that has many features for programming. Its footprint size and functionality make it perfect for installing on any system, even if you donโt have experience with Scintilla or GTK." https://lateweb.info/easy-way-to-install-scite-on-ubuntu-21-04-lts/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=easy-way-to-install-scite-on-ubuntu-21-04-lts | Mar 30 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lateweb.info | Easy Way To Install SciTE on Ubuntu 21.04 LTS | Mar 30 20:26 | |
| techrights-news | Spinning price hikes as "rebrand" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/rosehosting-rebrand-new-website-pricing-structure/ | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RoseHosting New Website, New Pricing Structure & Re-Brand | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: rosehosting.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/rosehosting-rebrand-new-website-pricing-structure/ | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22033059 | Mar 30 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.ipg.pw/sandcats/safariyokohama-20210415-0039.jpg created on 2022-03-30 16:24:26.861346 | Mar 30 20:30 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@k5ghkuun6w7re.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 20:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I get more Omaha Steaks ads. "If you think it looks good, wait until you taste it.". | Mar 30 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cows? | Mar 30 20:32 |
| techrights-news | March 30, 2022: Fending off attacks on connectivity in Ukraine, and keeping anti-war voices in Russia and Belarus online https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Mar 30 20:32 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: accessnow.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Mar 30 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now | Mar 30 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Car Salesman (Vacation): If you think you hate it now, wait until you drive it! | Mar 30 20:33 |
| techrights-news | [Only NSApple is allowed to do it] Apple Watch in Tire Allegedly Used to Track Ex-Girlfriend โ https://gizmodo.com/an-angry-stalker-used-an-apple-watch-wrapped-around-his-1848714771 ไท Source: gizmodo | Mar 30 20:33 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/an-angry-stalker-used-an-apple-watch-wrapped-around-his-1848714771 | Mar 30 20:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Apple Watch in Tire Allegedly Used to Track Ex-Girlfriend | Mar 30 20:33 | |
| techrights-news | No, Bruce Schneier, these are not "malicious uses"; these are the uses https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/stalking-with-an-apple-watch.html | Mar 30 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stalking with an Apple Watch - Schneier on Security | Mar 30 20:34 | |
| techrights-news | Looming curbs on Tunisian civil society must be stopped - Access Now โ https://www.accessnow.org/tunisia-civil-society/ ไท Source: accessnow | Mar 30 20:35 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: accessnow.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/tunisia-civil-society/ | Mar 30 20:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Looming curbs on Tunisian civil society must be stopped - Access Now | Mar 30 20:35 | |
| techrights-news | proprietary software Chrome has "vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/30/google-releases-security-updates-chrome | Mar 30 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISA | Mar 30 20:36 | |
| techrights-news | "They don't list authoritarianism as a protected attribute but it is clearly the primary one intended in the "not limited to" qualification." https://lwn.net/Articles/889692/ | Mar 30 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenSUSE adopts a new code of conduct [LWN.net] | Mar 30 20:39 | |
| techrights-news | "And yet the CoC's list of protected attributes includes a number of items one *does* have control over: education, immigration status, level of experience, personal appearance, religion, veteran status (unless conscripted), etc. Personally I do not see enough of a difference between "political affiliation" and "religion" to justify protecting one and not the other." https://lwn.net/Articles/889692/ | Mar 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-area-mother-among-20-killed-after-massacre-at-cock-fight-in-mexico-16-year-old-sister-wounded/ | Mar 30 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Chicago area mother among 20 killed after massacre at cock fight in Mexico; 16-year-old sister critical | WGN-TV | Mar 30 20:42 | |
| DaemonFC | So they were there to watch and promote the vicious abuse of animals, and we're going to be sorry they died? | Mar 30 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Only in Chicago. | Mar 30 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | How is gathering to watch chickens tear each other apart even entertaining? Sounds like we lost 20 psychopaths to me. | Mar 30 20:43 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu on the spyHome(TM) https://ubuntu.com//blog/future-iot-home-automation | Mar 30 20:43 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/future-iot-home-automation | Mar 30 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Evolution of the Smart Home: Future Predictions [Part 3] | Ubuntu | Mar 30 20:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | is bull 'fighting' still legal in mexico? | Mar 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Who knows? It's Mexico. I try not to pay attention. | Mar 30 20:45 |
| MinceR | who's going to tell the bull he's not allowed to do it? | Mar 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's bad enough that they've turned this city into a colony of Mexico and our government allows it. | Mar 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | They have the schools teaching in Spanish.....American schools teaching in Spanish. To people who should be deported. | Mar 30 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: let it be | Mar 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | To people who the law says should be deported. | Mar 30 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the matador gets no weapons | Mar 30 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | then I'd watch | Mar 30 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | They're doing their best to make sure that as an American, you can no longer function in your own country without speaking a foreign language that some invaders brought with them. | Mar 30 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | I refuse to even try to speak it. | Mar 30 20:47 |
| MinceR | which foreign language, english? | Mar 30 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Spanish | Mar 30 20:47 |
| MinceR | curious | Mar 30 20:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: typical american stereotype | Mar 30 20:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | usians being rude and arrogant | Mar 30 20:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then surprised europeans dislike "yanks" | Mar 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | If people refuse to speak it to them or cooperate, then it will be more difficult for them to maintain their position. | Mar 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | This is like, you know, the French refusing to speak German under the Nazi occupation. | Mar 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | "We may die but we'll still be speaking French." | Mar 30 20:49 |
| MinceR | how well can you function in Shikaakwa if you only speak the Miami-Illinois language? | Mar 30 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | The cucks and crooks who run Illinois won't make English the official language of the state, like most of the states have. | Mar 30 20:50 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Turn Your Old Laptop Into a Plex Media Server โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163158 | Mar 30 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Turn Your Old Laptop Into a Plex Media Server | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: your only country to visit other than your own is mexico | Mar 30 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it's better for the US | Mar 30 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | as that otherwise stigmatises USians | Mar 30 20:51 |
| techrights-news | New malware. From Gulag. https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/chrome-browser-version-100-is-out-now-on-windows-mac-linux-android-and-ios-article-90544070 | Mar 30 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesnownews.com | Chrome Browser version 100 is out now on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android and iOS | Mar 30 20:52 | |
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| techrights-news | "linuxsecurity" likes linking to anti-Linux FUD from Microsoft-connected sites (bad optics) https://linuxsecurity.com/news/hackscracks/hive-ransomware-ports-its-linux-vmware-esxi-encryptor-to-rust | Mar 30 20:53 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/hackscracks/hive-ransomware-ports-its-linux-vmware-esxi-encryptor-to-rust | Mar 30 20:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | Hive ransomware ports its Linux VMware ESXi encryptor to Rust | Lin... | Mar 30 20:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | I don't plan to visit Mexico. They kidnap Americans and figure out what people will pay to get them back. | Mar 30 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | And if nobody pays, that's not good for you either. | Mar 30 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | They don't even protect their own citizens. | Mar 30 20:54 |
| techrights-news | "I worked on AMO for almost 4 years and created various libraries like pino-mozlog, pino-devtools or an ESLint plugin to name a few. These libraries have been created either to improve our developer experience or to fulfill some production requirements." https://williamdurand.fr/2022/03/29/some-non-production-tools-i-wrote/ | Mar 30 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-williamdurand.fr | Some non-production tools I wrote | William Durand | Mar 30 20:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: ok, so you never left your country | Mar 30 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | They give them pamphlets on how to get here and sign up for welfare and to say they're applying for refugee status. | Mar 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Basically instructions for everything you want to know about how to abuse American laws. | Mar 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, taking shots at people who are multilingual isn't wise | Mar 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's not a virtue, either | Mar 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: might shock you | Mar 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | My ex knows several language, including Russian and French. | Mar 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not many people want to be in the US | Mar 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | He won't learn Spanish. Same reason as me. | Mar 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even Americans | Mar 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not saying keep them out on account of race. | Mar 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | you're overstating the attractiveness of the US | Mar 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying if all they plan to do is drain the system and refuse to speak the language, throw them back. | Mar 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Plenty of good ones. Why do we have to take in the ones that are abusing our system? | Mar 30 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | US is NOT a race | Mar 30 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | US is a broad mix | Mar 30 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | They ought to change the law from "prove you won't use welfare for 10 years" to "you can't use it for 10 years", and then they know you won't. | Mar 30 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you also think asia and africa is a race | Mar 30 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if people in egypt are the same as Congolese | Mar 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Paris is at least as dangerous as Chicago. | Mar 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | And it's because they're having an illegal immigration crisis too. | Mar 30 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I'll be back later | Mar 30 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | you inserted some mexico story | Mar 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's not the French citizens that are robbing and raping and stabbing tourists. | Mar 30 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | to interject your hatred towards spanish speakers | Mar 30 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | later... | Mar 30 20:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ โโโ โโโโโโ โโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โ โโโโ โโโโ โโโ avg(k/sec) 28.63 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 103.95โ swarm size (avg): 353.31 โฒ | Mar 30 20:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | go to another channel, too | Mar 30 20:59 |
| *psydruid has a lot of experience with the illegal immigration crisis in Biarritz | Mar 30 20:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR | don't ruin this one | Mar 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | The globalists don't want anyone to have a national identity. | Mar 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | So they do everything they can to strip it away and ruin it. | Mar 30 21:00 |
| *psydruid notes that Paris isn't all of France | Mar 30 21:00 | |
| DaemonFC | They figure it'll be easier to officially knock over all of the borders and declare some sort of world state later if they can just ruin everything we have here first. | Mar 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Then nobody will care anymore. | Mar 30 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23003168/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory-news-column-campaign-gop | Mar 30 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook funded anti-TikTok campaign through GOP firm - The Verge | Mar 30 21:04 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.shiftphones.com/ | Mar 30 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SHIFTPHONES - Nachhaltige Technologie aus Deutschland | Mar 30 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC | About the only way you ever hear of "Linux" support from the manufacturer is if it's a European company, or Chinese. | Mar 30 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of collusion in the US to make damned sure nobody hears about anything but Windows, Mac, and Google at the store. | Mar 30 21:06 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is faking it, just like Fakebookkk and other social control media (Twitter was also sued for it and lost) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/ | Mar 30 21:06 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/ | Mar 30 21:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe โข The Register | Mar 30 21:06 | |
| techrights-news | MirageOS Announces Latest Release v4.0, dedicated to Lars Kurth โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163159 | Mar 30 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MirageOS Announces Latest Release v4.0, dedicated to Lars Kurth | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:07 | |
| techrights-news | Arm says devs need better multi-architecture support - El Reg โ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/arm_heterogeneous_compute/ ไท Source: theregister | Mar 30 21:07 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/arm_heterogeneous_compute/ | Mar 30 21:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm says devs need better multi-architecture support โข The Register | Mar 30 21:07 | |
| techrights-news | "deliberately misconfigured version of CosmosDB and ended up with complete unrestricted access to the accounts and the databases of thousands of Microsoft Azure customers." https://forallsecure.com/blog/the-hacker-mind-follow-the-rabbit http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ | Mar 30 21:13 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: forallsecure.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forallsecure.com/blog/the-hacker-mind-follow-the-rabbit | Mar 30 21:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forallsecure.com | The Hacker Mind: Follow The Rabbit | Mar 30 21:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights | Mar 30 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Canonical really changed Ubuntu's software installer to demote Debian packages. | Mar 30 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Snap was failing so the natural thing is just force it on everyone. | Mar 30 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | It makes sense for them. It makes it pretty much impossible to fork Ubuntu because nobody else can use their package format. The server is proprietary and nobody knows how to make an alternative Snap package server. | Mar 30 21:14 |
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| DaemonFC | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theregister.com | 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe โข The Register | Mar 30 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | To defraud investors? | Mar 30 21:15 |
| activelow | XRevan86: Putin resided in Dresden, which i remember how my application documents were treated there | Mar 30 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Look at all these accounts!" | Mar 30 21:15 |
| activelow | which was, they scraped various projects from it, opened accounts at the federal investment bank there, and denied my application | Mar 30 21:16 |
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| activelow | although, this wasn't the case in Dresden only; i had a similar experience with ministry of finance/germany (former finance minister Olaf Scholf, now chancellor) where i was invited | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:15] <DaemonFC> "Look at all these accounts!" | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | typical | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media in a nuitshell | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | fake being big | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | show off your bigness | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then people think they TOO need to create an account | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | FOMO | Mar 30 21:17 |
| activelow | XRevan86: insofar, i do not know what the level of corruption in Russia is, in germany it has become murderous already | Mar 30 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | germany is corrupt | Mar 30 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | see epo | Mar 30 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media is also very corrupt | Mar 30 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it helps hide the corruption | Mar 30 21:18 |
| activelow | well, application documents aren't subject to patent claims, nonetheless it was systematic fraud and corruption at work, such often i couldn't keep track of it anymore | Mar 30 21:19 |
| techrights-news | fabrics???? https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-and-western-digital-begin-far-reaching-collaboration-to-drive-standardization-of-next-generation-storage-technologies-for-broader-ecosystem-support-and-customer-adoption | Mar 30 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.samsung.com | Samsung and Western Digital Begin Far-Reaching Collaboration To Drive Standardization of Next-generation Storage Technologies for Broader Ecosystem Support and Customer Adoption โ Samsung Global Newsroom | Mar 30 21:19 | |
| techrights-news | Redmonk itself is NOT "Vendor-Neutral"; it's s shilling operation disguised as "analysts"; they even name the paymasters. https://redmonk.com/kholterhoff/2022/03/24/vendor-vs-vendor-neutral-certifications/ | Mar 30 21:21 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: redmonk.com | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://redmonk.com/kholterhoff/2022/03/24/vendor-vs-vendor-neutral-certifications/ | Mar 30 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-redmonk.com | Vendor vs Vendor-Neutral Certifications โ console.log() | Mar 30 21:21 | |
| DaemonFC | There's what Germany says about the former East Germany and what they do in practice. | Mar 30 21:23 |
| techrights-news | Redmonk: "Disclosure: AWS, GitHub, Google (GKE), IBM, Microsoft (AKS), Salesforce, and VMware are RedMonk clients." That's MICROSOFT TWICE. How corrupt does Redmonk want to get? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33220 | Mar 30 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:23 | |
| DaemonFC | What they say is that the infrastructure was very bad and they pump trillions into fixing it, and they had to close down nuclear power plants because of safety standards. | Mar 30 21:23 |
| activelow | the ministry of finance is located in the most western part of Germany, Bonn | Mar 30 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, they treat it like they were at war, and they conquered them. | Mar 30 21:23 |
| activelow | so, the "business" habits don't differ that much, from Bonn to Moscow or wherever | Mar 30 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even in the US, federal money is just money they stole from the states and the state citizens to begin with. | Mar 30 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | They offer it back with conditions to corrupt and manipulate local governments. | Mar 30 21:25 |
| activelow | similar experience with some EU funded projects | Mar 30 21:25 |
| activelow | together with a melange of psychotic ideology | Mar 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically how leftists conspire to set state policy in places they can't win elections. | Mar 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Authorize huge pots of "federal" money but only if conservatives change their laws first to one the Democrats like better. | Mar 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Blue states have finally overplayed their hand. They're the ones losing the House seats and electoral votes now. | Mar 30 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | The needle is moving away from the Democrats in the electoral college. | Mar 30 21:28 |
| activelow | in germany the giant pots of public money can't be spent anymore, due to lack of substantial investments | Mar 30 21:28 |
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| DaemonFC | <activelow> in germany the giant pots of public money can't be spent anymore, due to lack of substantial investments | Mar 30 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, brain drain and lack of people who want to do the work. | Mar 30 21:28 |
| activelow | such as, there is a gigantic pot for optical fibre, yet missing company to roll out | Mar 30 21:28 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: i cannot anymore, even if i wanted to, that's the other irony of it | Mar 30 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Congress is still acting like they can make it so just by passing funding for something. | Mar 30 21:29 |
| matey | mincer daemonfc schestowitz schestowitz-tr and so it begins... https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/pull/61 | Mar 30 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solve one problem that bad_array_new_length is not thrown for certainโฆ by chumarshal1 ยท Pull Request #61 ยท gcc-mirror/gcc ยท GitHub | Mar 30 21:29 | |
| activelow | i had enough of it, 2005 already | Mar 30 21:29 |
| MinceR | gcc moving to MICROS~1 github? | Mar 30 21:29 |
| matey | (dfc because hes the one sure to get the quote) | Mar 30 21:29 |
| matey | moving? nah | Mar 30 21:29 |
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| matey | just getting a hug | Mar 30 21:30 |
| matey | "mirror" | Mar 30 21:30 |
| matey | mirror will pull requests in 2022 | Mar 30 21:30 |
| MinceR | :( | Mar 30 21:30 |
| matey | note that its still JUST incidental enough that theres not much gcc people can do about it | Mar 30 21:30 |
| matey | but the avalanche has already started | Mar 30 21:30 |
| bnchs | mincer | Mar 30 21:30 |
| matey | (another quote dfc knows) | Mar 30 21:30 |
| bnchs | the best way to avoid this | Mar 30 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's too late for the pebbles to vote? | Mar 30 21:30 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtE | Mar 30 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtE | Mar 30 21:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Hugs! yugioh Abridged Melvin'd quotes - Invidious | Mar 30 21:30 | |
| matey | yep | Mar 30 21:31 |
| bnchs | is to mirror the pull requests to mail requests | Mar 30 21:31 |
| matey | anyway people looking for doom and gloom have better reason than this | Mar 30 21:31 |
| matey | bnchs: that helps in one way, makes this permanent in another | Mar 30 21:31 |
| matey | the fact is, gcc became part of ibmhub a long time ago | Mar 30 21:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: the account name is gcc-mirror | Mar 30 21:31 |
| matey | what do i always say about mirrors roy | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | which means that as soon as they touched it they made it very clear what it is | Mar 30 21:32 |
| bnchs | you cant disable pull requests | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but nevertheless | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a good thing | Mar 30 21:32 |
| matey | i know bnchs | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was just writing about gfithub | Mar 30 21:32 |
| matey | be sure to add why this isnt a problem roy | Mar 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | LAME is still using Forged Source. | Mar 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 30 21:32 |
| matey | anyway | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | Mar 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | From way back in the day. | Mar 30 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights | Mar 30 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | typos possible | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz | draft | Mar 30 21:32 |
| schestowitz | report typos | Mar 30 21:32 |
| matey | no they cant disable pull requests | Mar 30 21:32 |
| matey | but they can put a note saying dont use them | Mar 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Forged Source had the malware installer scandal. | Mar 30 21:32 |
| matey | if you dont stand up to this, people will have it take over | Mar 30 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | And now they mirror GitHub and pretend like there's still projects using Forged Source. | Mar 30 21:33 |
| matey | forged source had different owners then | Mar 30 21:33 |
| matey | the new ones fixed the malware (and now just dump clown shit on it) | Mar 30 21:33 |
| matey | but they did fix the malware issue | Mar 30 21:33 |
| matey | the clown shit is annoying-- i hit a pile of clown shit on clownhub today too | Mar 30 21:33 |
| matey | if github isnt the clown, what is | Mar 30 21:34 |
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| matey | but the bigger problem for gcc (for now) isnt the mirror that has pull requsts | Mar 30 21:34 |
| matey | the bigger problem is still ibm | Mar 30 21:34 |
| techrights-news | http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | ass | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms bro | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | ibm bros | Mar 30 21:35 |
| matey | oh hes dead leave him be | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | if true | Mar 30 21:35 |
| matey | and i never was sure adam stallman was the same one at ibm | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | that info is not reliable | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and... to be fair | Mar 30 21:35 |
| matey | no i dont consider it reliable either | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming he worked there until a decade ago | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | ibm was not bad to us | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they helped gnu, linux, odf | Mar 30 21:35 |
| matey | it was trollish, but not the antichrist | Mar 30 21:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they turned sour much later | Mar 30 21:36 |
| matey | ^ themselves | Mar 30 21:36 |
| matey | helped themselves | Mar 30 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | with ginni the apple fan | Mar 30 21:36 |
| matey | i think they were closer to neutral with more than a hint of selfish | Mar 30 21:36 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights โ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | Mar 30 21:36 |
| matey | supporting patents and whatnot | Mar 30 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights | Mar 30 21:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oin | Mar 30 21:36 |
| matey | more like a frenemy | Mar 30 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | openoffice | Mar 30 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | for symfony | Mar 30 21:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | all in all it did not feel like they attacked us | Mar 30 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | with their rogue interests | Mar 30 21:37 |
| matey | and i dont believe they just turned evil one day | Mar 30 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | that happened in more recent years | Mar 30 21:37 |
| matey | which means they were always planning something worse imo | Mar 30 21:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and more so with them trying to monetise red hat and the swpats | Mar 30 21:37 |
| matey | they were a frenemy-- not nearly as bad as microsoft | Mar 30 21:37 |
| matey | and the fsf said | Mar 30 21:37 |
| matey | sure, let red hat host gcc and gdb | Mar 30 21:38 |
| matey | whats the worst that could happen | Mar 30 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | ukraine: let putin keep crimea | Mar 30 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | peace for our time | Mar 30 21:38 |
| matey | but just for the record, right now i think ibm is the bigger threat to gcc and gdb | Mar 30 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | putin licked | Mar 30 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | not he bites | Mar 30 21:38 |
| matey | the fact that there are pull requests on the gcc mirror on github though | Mar 30 21:38 |
| matey | thats bad | Mar 30 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Mar 30 21:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in linux kernel | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | torvalds closes themn | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hey | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the PRs are good | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and important | Mar 30 21:39 |
| matey | oh god | Mar 30 21:39 |
| matey | no | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the submitted would do it the right way | Mar 30 21:39 |
| matey | yes | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and join the mailing list | Mar 30 21:39 |
| matey | right | Mar 30 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not, the changes are likely junk | Mar 30 21:39 |
| matey | but | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | if it becomes a thing | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | like typo correction or "I am from UMN" | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | and no one stops it | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | pretty soon they could have so many | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | that some idiot is saying | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | if thgey ignore them all | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | hey, just saying, maybe we should have someone accept these prs | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | and review them | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and don't even reply | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | then it's like #techrights in librea chat | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that channel died | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | they should reply | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in freenode | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | people can speak | Mar 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody would reply | Mar 30 21:40 |
| matey | github isnt a problem that will go away based on do-nothingism | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the URL SLUG is clear | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | GCC-MIRROR | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | is the submitter | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) does not know what mirror means | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) cannot figures how to send plain text email | Mar 30 21:41 |
| matey | if gcc-mirror is submitting prs to itself | Mar 30 21:41 |
| matey | even a year later | Mar 30 21:41 |
| matey | then this is deliberate fuckery | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) cannot understand how the project work | Mar 30 21:41 |
| matey | not ignorance | Mar 30 21:41 |
| matey | nope | Mar 30 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | then it's very likely the person isn't a coder | Mar 30 21:42 |
| matey | i dont care if its molly and her hair is green now | Mar 30 21:42 |
| matey | this is deliberately bad | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a "hypocrite" (UMN) or saboteur or hipster | Mar 30 21:42 |
| matey | definitely one of those | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | like people who suggests in the kernel mailing lists that they should move to c# and pytion | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the kernel | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | python! | Mar 30 21:42 |
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| matey | lol@python kernel | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was suggested by a guy from MICROSOFT | Mar 30 21:42 |
| matey | better than rust, still lol | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Keigh Curtus | Mar 30 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Keith Curtis | Mar 30 21:43 |
| matey | /me tries to imagine how you could actually make a python kernel | Mar 30 21:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | python3 kernel | Mar 30 21:43 |
| matey | "ctypes" | Mar 30 21:43 |
| matey | "stfu" | Mar 30 21:43 |
| matey | python3! the rust of python | Mar 30 21:43 |
| matey | 2007: ironpython 2027: rustpython | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw | Mar 30 21:44 |
| matey | 2032: p# | Mar 30 21:44 |
| bnchs | wait wtf | Mar 30 21:44 |
| bnchs | python kernel? | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | watch the latest libreplanet talk I posted in techrights | Mar 30 21:44 |
| matey | bnchs: im sure they were trolling | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 5 hours ago | Mar 30 21:44 |
| matey | title | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | he explained how python3 broke games | Mar 30 21:44 |
| matey | he who | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then he had to spend loads of time trying to fix them | Mar 30 21:44 |
| matey | yeah python 3 is an npi | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and once packaged they would have other issues | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | the code was the same | Mar 30 21:44 |
| matey | so is rust | Mar 30 21:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | only python changed | Mar 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then changed again and again | Mar 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | even python3 itself.. | Mar 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | getting url | Mar 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ | Mar 30 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights | Mar 30 21:45 | |
| matey | python 3 isnt a language, its a webapi cleverly disguised as a language-- same as rust | Mar 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | canonical had the same issues with python3 | Mar 30 21:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | we still use loads of python2 stuff | Mar 30 21:45 |
| matey | its a clown language | Mar 30 21:45 |
| matey | when canonical wont bend over for it you KNOW its bad | Mar 30 21:45 |
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| schestowitz-TR | if you have 500,000 lines of code | Mar 30 21:46 |
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| matey | we still use loads of python2 stuf <- if python 2 disappears i might spend years forking it | Mar 30 21:46 |
| matey | i wouldnt fork the whole thing | Mar 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | search and replace does not make the issue go away | Mar 30 21:46 |
| matey | just the parts that i give a shit about | Mar 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | some upgrader script | Mar 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can just blindly run against the code | Mar 30 21:46 |
| matey | i dont think pypy can ditch pypy2 fwiw | Mar 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need to check what you change, then do lots of testing | Mar 30 21:46 |
| matey | there are reasons some things stick | Mar 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | across platforms too | Mar 30 21:46 |
| matey | like pypy2 isnt just in it for "choice" | Mar 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to MAINTAIN what ALREADY worked | Mar 30 21:46 |
| matey | its a design decision | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | he praised SDL for API consistency | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and backward compat | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | SDL is now shithub | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they moved ladt year, iirc | Mar 30 21:47 |
| matey | sdl = sdl2 = opengl = vulkan = github | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | SDL2, very disappointing | Mar 30 21:47 |
| matey | but sdl WAS pretty stable | Mar 30 21:47 |
| matey | i used it in my own software | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | not reeally | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | not 20 years ago | Mar 30 21:47 |
| matey | 20 years ago? | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I was a student another student with the same supervisor used SDL | Mar 30 21:47 |
| matey | i definitely mean more recently | Mar 30 21:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | which turned out to be a mistake | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it had loads of issues in it | Mar 30 21:48 |
| matey | ok well obviously no software starts out stable | Mar 30 21:48 |
| matey | thats a contradiction in terms | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | even more than 20 years ago | Mar 30 21:48 |
| matey | so when i say it was stable | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2001 iirc | Mar 30 21:48 |
| matey | i mean after it became stable, but that should go without saying | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | someone wrote a game in it | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and regretted it | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | lagrange is written in sdl btw | Mar 30 21:48 |
| matey | the fact that it had a non-stable period before that is literally all software ever | Mar 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | odd choice for a non-game | Mar 30 21:48 |
| matey | sdl has been used for a few non-game things | Mar 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | lagrange paste bugs remain | Mar 30 21:49 |
| matey | basically its less trouble to roll your own solutions if you dont like a bunch of unstable crap like i dunno, gtk | Mar 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | for over a year already | Mar 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it cannot cope with select to clipboard | Mar 30 21:49 |
| matey | when more projects use sdl for gui, you know the other gui options have failed | Mar 30 21:49 |
| matey | because sdl isnt really a gui, its a canvas | Mar 30 21:49 |
| matey | when people are drawing their own controls, gui toolkits have failed horribly | Mar 30 21:50 |
| matey | the whole point of a gui toolkit is to save you the troubl | Mar 30 21:50 |
| matey | when they are too much trouble, theyve failed at the one job they had | Mar 30 21:50 |
| psydruid | and that's the crux of the story | Mar 30 21:50 |
| matey | i still like tk | Mar 30 21:50 |
| matey | but i guess it wouldnt be too popular in pakistan | Mar 30 21:51 |
| matey | since it seems to get arabic wrong | Mar 30 21:51 |
| matey | as a plus, it doesnt need hardbuzz | Mar 30 21:51 |
| matey | harfbuzz | Mar 30 21:51 |
| matey | as a minus, it cant seem to handle arabic | Mar 30 21:51 |
| psydruid | but it does get devanagari right? | Mar 30 21:51 |
| matey | or some other things | Mar 30 21:51 |
| matey | basic devanagari | Mar 30 21:52 |
| matey | the thing about computers and hindi is | Mar 30 21:52 |
| matey | roman characters are more common because full devanagari keyboards are expensive | Mar 30 21:52 |
| matey | so people handwrite it but type roman letters | Mar 30 21:52 |
| matey | its practical | Mar 30 21:52 |
| bnchs | matey: sdl is still great for cross-platform shit tho | Mar 30 21:53 |
| matey | yeah im a fan of sdl, its one of the few 3rd party libs ive even used | Mar 30 21:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | even mobile | Mar 30 21:53 |
| psydruid | typing devanagari on a US keyboard is a struggle for me | Mar 30 21:53 |
| psydruid | I can never find all characters | Mar 30 21:54 |
| matey | kuch nehi, chinta mat karo | Mar 30 21:54 |
| psydruid | it's much easier using an onscreen keyboard such as Openboard on Android sadly | Mar 30 21:55 |
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| psydruid | so that would be nice to have on a GNU/Linux tablet for input of complex character sets | Mar 30 21:55 |
| techrights-news | Using the openSUSE Build Service to build software for POWER | Random thoughts of Peter โCzPโ Czanik โ https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/power-opensuse-build-service/ ไท Source: peter czanik | Mar 30 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Using the openSUSE Build Service to build software for POWER | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik | Mar 30 21:57 | |
| techrights-news | New Linux kernel patch speeds up server shutdowns โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163160 | Mar 30 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux kernel patch speeds up server shutdowns | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:58 | |
| matey | /me has xvkbd but its pretty crap | Mar 30 22:00 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163161 | Mar 30 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 22:00 | |
| matey | what i meant is that a lot of people just use roman characters (transliterated) | Mar 30 22:01 |
| matey | and save devanagari lettering for handwriting | Mar 30 22:01 |
| matey | and professional typesetting | Mar 30 22:01 |
| matey | im not even talking about input methods | Mar 30 22:03 |
| matey | (like ive seen pinyin input methods for producing chinese characters) | Mar 30 22:03 |
| techrights-news | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163162 | Mar 30 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 30 22:04 | |
| techrights-news | Canonical/Ubuntu: โClownโ Computing, 'Smart' Homes, and 'IoT' Buzzwords โข Tux Machines โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163163 | Mar 30 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu: 'Clown' Computing, 'Smart' Homes, and 'IoT' Buzzwords | Tux Machines | Mar 30 22:04 | |
| matey | the difference between roman hindi and input method is the latter (only) produces native characters | Mar 30 22:04 |
| matey | yeh roman hindi hai | Mar 30 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | California is a shit sandwich from top to bottom, but literally thanks to San Francisco. | Mar 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | The "bullet train to nowhere" that won't be any faster than Metra or Amtrak once every two bit town has a stop. | Mar 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Running out of water and suggesting a twist of lemon to get rid of the dirt flavor. | Mar 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Worst taxes in the nation. | Mar 30 22:05 |
| matey | but literally thanks to San Francisco <- deja poo | Mar 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Crime unpunished and out of control due to liberal prosecutor that might actually face a recall in California for unleashing the Kraken on the idiots that voted for him. | Mar 30 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | I was on the fairly early Internet. Before most had it in their homes. Not old enough for Mosaic, but definitely old enough to use Netscape 3/4. | Mar 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of Deja..... | Mar 30 22:07 |
| matey | psydruid do you use any browser that supports js? | Mar 30 22:07 |
| matey | even for tasks other than browsing? | Mar 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I liked Deja News before Google bought them, ruined it, and turned it into Google Groups, and then censored it by unsubscribing me from newsgroups it did not like. | Mar 30 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Deja News was one of the sites I liked so well it was in my bookmarks bar. | Mar 30 22:08 |
| psydruid | matey, falkon and netsurf mainly | Mar 30 22:09 |
| matey | ok falkon should do it | Mar 30 22:09 |
| matey | i cant netsurf to do anything with js other than fail | Mar 30 22:09 |
| psydruid | and yes, using roman is the default | Mar 30 22:09 |
| matey | ok i have a project i think i can complete in a couple hours | Mar 30 22:09 |
| matey | youll love it | Mar 30 22:09 |
| psydruid | that's cool | Mar 30 22:10 |
| matey | and if you dont, its no problem | Mar 30 22:10 |
| matey | /me demonstrates the evil power of js at what it truly does best :/ | Mar 30 22:10 |
| psydruid | nah, it's just so frustrating when I can do such things here on Android very easily | Mar 30 22:10 |
| matey | youll be able to do them without android too | Mar 30 22:10 |
| *psydruid uses the same xmpp account across devices | Mar 30 22:11 | |
| psydruid | Conversations here and Dino on my laptop | Mar 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | So Ubuntu is probably not on the table. | Mar 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They've removed GNOME Software and written their own package installer that promotes Snaps instead. | Mar 30 22:12 |
| matey | awful | Mar 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's fair to say they're not a Debian derivative anymore. | Mar 30 22:12 |
| matey | if theres one thing worse than gnome | Mar 30 22:12 |
| matey | its snaps | Mar 30 22:12 |
| matey | hell, its fair to say debian isnt a debian derivative anymore | Mar 30 22:12 |
| matey | ubuntu isnt even a distro | Mar 30 22:12 |
| matey | its more of a distru | Mar 30 22:13 |
| matey | destru | Mar 30 22:13 |
| matey | its a weapon of gnu/linux distribution | Mar 30 22:13 |
| psydruid | เคฎเฅเค เคฏเคนเคพเค เคธเคฌ เคฒเคฟเค เคธเคเคคเคพ เคนเฅเค เฅค | Mar 30 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'd recommend Fedora before this. This is awful. | Mar 30 22:14 |
| matey | /me cant read it anyway | Mar 30 22:14 |
| psydruid | it was just an example | Mar 30 22:14 |
| matey | [] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][] [] [] | Mar 30 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu slid to #6 on Distrowatch and Kubuntu to #19. | Mar 30 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when the top 5 were all based on Ubuntu. | Mar 30 22:14 |
| psydruid | main yahaan sab likh sakta hun | Mar 30 22:14 |
| matey | sakta kya matlab | Mar 30 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Debian is also falling down the list. | Mar 30 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Just not as fast. | Mar 30 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Seems Manjaro is getting a lot of attention. | Mar 30 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical seems fine with asset stripping Ubuntu of anything that won't make money in the short term. | Mar 30 22:17 |
| psydruid | sakta ka matlab angrezi mein "able" hai | Mar 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Short term, accepting Microsoft cash makes money. | Mar 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Long term, it ruins your business. | Mar 30 22:18 |
| matey | ohho theek hai | Mar 30 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what Walmart is using these days. | Mar 30 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | That Novell-Microsoft deal was mostly about Walmart. | Mar 30 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | They deemed Windows unsuitable to run at their scale except as a thin client. | Mar 30 22:19 |
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| DaemonFC | It's gotten to the point where Windows can only manage simple tasks, so I have no idea why Walmart even uses the thin client versions. | Mar 30 22:19 |
| bnchs | matey: i was gonna say this before my ISP rapes my connection | Mar 30 22:20 |
| bnchs | but i ported a few SDL games to the PS3 and they were easy as fuck | Mar 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | " Clement Lefebvre has announced the release of a brand-new version of Linux Mint's Debian edition, better known as LMDE. The new release is based on Debian 11 and uses the Cinnamon desktop: "The team is proud to announce the release of LMDE 5 'Elsie'." The release announcement contains a brief introduction to LMDE, while the release notes provide a list of known issues: "To launch the installer in expert mode, run the following command: sudo | Mar 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | live-installer-expert-mode. To install LMDE on an existing LVM partition you must first remove it from the LVM volumes and groups to which it belongs. In manual partitioning mode, note that the installer will auto-mount all swap partitions. These partitions will also be placed in /etc/fstab in the installed system. The LMDE ISO images and the live installer use a different structure than the ones used by other distributions. Do not use Yumi or | Mar 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | multi-boot technologies with LMDE as it won't install properly. The root account is locked by default. To use the recovery console (from the Grub menu) or log in as root, you first need to give root a new password: sudo passwd root."" | Mar 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Linux Mint is fine to recommend to people with the stipulation that they use the Debian Edition. | Mar 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical already showed that Ubuntu is not a stable base and that they will commit hostilities using pettifogger attorneys with "creative" interpretations of the law. | Mar 30 22:22 |
| bnchs | so i can see the pain of using tor with cloudflare websites | Mar 30 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | And they do subtle things to corrupt distributions that base on them. | Mar 30 22:22 |
| bnchs | a few months ago | Mar 30 22:22 |
| psydruid | I guess someone wasn't joking when I asked this person what toolkit I should use to write software for Windows and they answered "DirectX", even though the answer should have been SDL | Mar 30 22:22 |
| bnchs | the cloudflare websites worked, but now | Mar 30 22:22 |
| matey | <bnchs> but i ported a few SDL games to the PS3 and they were easy as fuck <- thats awesome | Mar 30 22:25 |
| matey | as much as i hate sony forever | Mar 30 22:25 |
| matey | /me hasnt forgiven them in 17 years | Mar 30 22:25 |
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| matey | he wasnt kidding about the isp | Mar 30 22:25 |
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| bnchs | irc is alot more stabler in ethernet than wifi | Mar 30 22:27 |
| bnchs | probably jammers in area | Mar 30 22:27 |
| bnchs | matey: the PS3 hacking community is trying to port opengl to PS3 (as a library) | Mar 30 22:29 |
| bnchs | it actually uses mesa | Mar 30 22:29 |
| bnchs | and nouveau drivers | Mar 30 22:29 |
| psydruid | do you have access to the bare metal including the ability to run your own operating system on it instead of their hypervisor? | Mar 30 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | "LMDE aims to be as similar as possible to Linux Mint, but without using Ubuntu. The package base is provided by Debian instead." | Mar 30 22:32 |
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| DaemonFC | Major improvement. At least you don't have to worry about Snaps and Pettifogger attacks that way. | Mar 30 22:33 |
| bnchs__ | psydruid: only in an eariler firmware version | Mar 30 22:33 |
| bnchs__ | and you can only downgrade with QA mode enabled | Mar 30 22:34 |
| bnchs__ | (aka game tester mode) | Mar 30 22:34 |
| activelow | never grasped the idea, why Ubuntu forked from Debian (among many other spin-offs); why is a separate distribution necessary instead of simply apt-get install <whatever window manager> | Mar 30 22:34 |
| activelow | and changing some GTK theme | Mar 30 22:35 |
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| bnchs | was wrong | Mar 30 22:43 |
| bnchs | it was simply a football night | Mar 30 22:43 |
| bnchs | where everyone in the country watches the football match livestream | Mar 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089264644/is-it-cake-netflix | Mar 30 22:45 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: npr.org | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089264644/is-it-cake-netflix | Mar 30 22:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | The case for 'Is It Cake?,' Netflix's new game show : NPR | Mar 30 22:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, $20 a month to guess if something is cake or not. | Mar 30 22:45 |
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| psydruid | wasn't that yesterday? | Mar 30 22:48 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโ โโโโ โโโโโโ โโโ โโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โ โโ avg(k/sec) 36.00 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 87.31โ swarm size (avg): 245.16 โฒ | Mar 30 22:59 |
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| XRevan86 | https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng | Mar 30 23:04 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: zona.media | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng | Mar 30 23:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Ukrainian refugee โinterviewโ about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the source | Mar 30 23:04 | |
| activelow | ^ funded by german "social democrats" and "alliance90/greens" | Mar 30 23:05 |
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| XRevan86 | activelow: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/004/592/misc-jackie-chan-l.jpg | Mar 30 23:06 |
| activelow | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Mitgliedern_der_Atlantik-Br%C3%BCcke | Mar 30 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-de.wikipedia.org | Liste von Mitgliedern der Atlantik-Brรผcke โ Wikipedia | Mar 30 23:07 | |
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| XRevan86 | I'll assume it wasn't a comment on the link I gave, but I've no idea what the comment was actually about then. | Mar 30 23:08 |
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| activelow | funneling billions of cash into russia, in parallel supplying ukraine with weapons... and nuckling the last drip of oil and gas out of Ukraine/Russian pipelines | Mar 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | https://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FETpYFbYUwAAo2A-.jpg%3Fname%3Dorig | Mar 30 23:09 |
| activelow | recently, they are planning to acquire F-35 from USA, build Intel semiconductor plants in east-germany, and buy Israeli missile systems | Mar 30 23:09 |
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| activelow | some other rumors: 250 Abrams tanks brought to Poland (unverified) | Mar 30 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt Biden went off script. | Mar 30 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | REGIME CHANGE. Putin will be taken out somehow. | Mar 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | good | Mar 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | they should hurry up and kill that asshole before more people die because of him | Mar 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | or better yet, start killing him, but kill him slowly | Mar 30 23:12 |
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| activelow | because of whom? Burisma and affiliates? | Mar 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | because of his war crimes and other crimes against humanity | Mar 30 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: "funneling billions of cash into russia, in parallel supplying ukraine with weapons... and nuckling the last drip of oil and gas out of Ukraine/Russian pipelines" <- [citation needed] | Mar 30 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think the US will go to war with Russia. I think there will be an element of the Russian government, inside the FSB, that gets rid of Putin. | Mar 30 23:15 |
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| MinceR | that may not be up for the US to decide, unless they're willing to surrender unconditionally | Mar 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | i wonder if someone inside putler's inner circle will really be willing to get rid of him | Mar 30 23:16 |
| activelow | XRevan86: 24/7 broadcasted on german tv and newspapers flooded. although i had not heard reports anymore about the operational status of the Ukraine pipeline attached to german energy/gas grid | Mar 30 23:16 |
| activelow | last reports were, "Alliance90/greens" (atlantic bridge minion war criminals) prepare for energy emergency plans activated | Mar 30 23:16 |
| activelow | and, whatever corona-lockdown was before, they are planning for more of this | Mar 30 23:17 |
| activelow | to ration oil and gas supplies (i haven't any anyway) | Mar 30 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Mediazona has 24/7 broadcast in Germany? Amazing! Tell them that, they'll love it. | Mar 30 23:18 |
| activelow | XRevan86: this one wasn't broadcasted in germany https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng | Mar 30 23:18 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-๐ฃ Cloudflare: zona.media | ๐ Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng | Mar 30 23:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Ukrainian refugee โinterviewโ about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the source | Mar 30 23:18 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: https://ircz.de/m/pics/2019/08/14/08/51/44/564a27e59eae4189b100bcf7b34d6fd4.jpeg | Mar 30 23:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ๐ค <https://emojipedia.org/thinking-face/> | Mar 30 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emojipedia.org | ๐ค Thinking Face Emoji | Mar 30 23:21 | |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 30 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | goddamit | Mar 30 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | I was distracted. | Mar 30 23:22 |
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| XRevan86 | coub.com is dying, I dumped everything that was ever mentioned in my history and now reviewing if everything is all right. And reminiscing. | Mar 30 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | (it should be obvious I don't have an "Emoji Picker") | Mar 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 23:23 |
| kingoffrance | i interpreted that "shot by the FSB' differently the first glance ;0 | Mar 30 23:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 23:35 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032169 | Mar 30 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/NxqyjtF.jpg created on 2022-03-21 17:58:16.882806 | Mar 30 23:40 | |
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