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techrights-newsLinux [sic] Foundation CTO has LEFT https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-top-global-160000690.html?guccounter=1Mar 30 00:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Linux Foundation Announces Top Global Executive Speakers for Open Networking & Edge Executive Forum, April 12-14, and New CTO AppointmentMar 30 00:00
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techrights-newsLinux [sic] Foundation CFO left the year the Linux [sic] Foundation operated at a loss despite the selloutsMar 30 00:00
bnchswhy the sic'sMar 30 00:01
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bnchsis it called lUNIXMar 30 00:01
bnchslunixMar 30 00:01
schestowitz-TRthey don't even use unixMar 30 00:01
schestowitz-TRbut fake unixea and windowsMar 30 00:01
schestowitz-TR*unixesMar 30 00:01
schestowitz-TRthey reject LinuxMar 30 00:02
schestowitz-TRthey don't by the product they are called afterMar 30 00:02
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matey/me wonders who "they" refers to, and the rest of it for that matterMar 30 00:03
techrights-newsNo such thing is possible. Tell me all about the round cube... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/Mar 30 00:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Democrats propose pro-privacy digital dollar โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 00:03
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schestowitz-TRthey/them/lunix foundationbMar 30 00:03
schestowitz-TRthe hypocritesMar 30 00:03
mateyoh themMar 30 00:03
schestowitz-TRwho work for the pentagonMar 30 00:03
mateyidiots yesMar 30 00:03
schestowitz-TRbut tell me about ethicsMar 30 00:03
schestowitz-TRi wonder what the backstory is,Mar 30 00:04
mateythe macos foundationMar 30 00:04
schestowitz-TRmurdock was first LF CTOMar 30 00:04
schestowitz-TRthat's fineMar 30 00:04
schestowitz-TRafter that it was people from IBM, SUSE (Rex) etc.Mar 30 00:04
schestowitz-TRlatest was IBMMar 30 00:04
schestowitz-TRDolanMar 30 00:04
bnchswhat is this horrible chatMar 30 00:05
bnchsmicrosoft is good you knowMar 30 00:05
mateyfor me to poop onMar 30 00:05
bnchsok thats why satya is the CEOMar 30 00:05
schestowitz-TRwait, or was it chris?Mar 30 00:05
schestowitz"No such thing is possible. Tell me all about the round cube... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/"Mar 30 00:06
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schestowitz"Cleveland, Ohio, United States ยท SVP and GM of Projects ยท The Linux Foundation"Mar 30 00:06
bnchsok you know whatMar 30 00:06
bnchsthis linux foundation shitMar 30 00:06
bnchsis starting to be a jokeMar 30 00:06
bnchsits like more corporateMar 30 00:06
bnchsthan somethingMar 30 00:07
schestowitzShubhra KarMar 30 00:07
schestowitzhttps://linuxfoundation.org/people/#member-3383-infoMar 30 00:07
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/people/#member-3383-infoMar 30 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Leadership - Linux FoundationMar 30 00:07
schestowitz"He comes to the Linux Foundation from Joyent/Samsung, where as VP of Products, he ran multiple product lines โ€“ primarily services like Multi-Cloud Kubernetes, Machine Learning, Serverless and Monitoring/Analytics/Logging/Tracing. "Mar 30 00:07
schestowitz"Previous to Samsung, Shubhra served as VP of Product and Marketing at startups like InfluxData (#1 Time Series platform in the world) and StrongLoop (acquired by IBM) and is also the current Marketing Chair of the Node.js Foundation. He has also held management and technical leadership positions at CA Technologies and Infosys (Indiaโ€™s first startup to bluechip success story)."Mar 30 00:07
schestowitzah, OK, chris is at cncfMar 30 00:08
schestowitzCTOMar 30 00:08
kingoffrance"its like more corporate" well, that was "open source" they got what they wantedMar 30 00:09
matey  ^ ^ ^Mar 30 00:09
kingoffrancei dont say that to beat a dead horse, just because its all lumped together now, detractors will say this is why "open source" doesnt workMar 30 00:09
kingoffrancewithout any trace of ironyMar 30 00:09
kingoffranceset up strawman, knock it downMar 30 00:09
schestowitzSVP and Chief Marketing Officer is quite newMar 30 00:10
mateywhats the straw man?Mar 30 00:10
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–โ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–†โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–โ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–†โ– avg(k/sec) 38.23 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‡โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–„โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 33.10โ–• swarm size (avg): 274.10  โŸฒMar 30 00:10
schestowitzhis backgrouns seems benignMar 30 00:10
kingoffrancethat open source was "grass roots" free software doesnt exist except as part of "open source" "FOSS"Mar 30 00:10
mateyhehMar 30 00:11
kingoffranceand if you try to break up ms and linux and   open source and free software, you are a homewrecker i guess lolMar 30 00:11
schestowitz"Austin, Texas, United States ยท CTO and GM - Products & IT, Founder - LFX.dev ยท The Linux Foundation"Mar 30 00:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/shubhrakar?lang=en-GBMar 30 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/shubhrakar?lang=en-GB )Mar 30 00:12
mateykingoffrance: open source split off from free software and then spent 20 years saying the former wasnt a "team player" Mar 30 00:12
schestowitzlast "tweet" in januaryMar 30 00:12
mateybecause it had the nerve to not automatically agree with the people that split off from them!Mar 30 00:12
kingoffrance^Mar 30 00:12
kingoffrance"A shotgun wedding is a wedding which is arranged in order to avoid embarrassment due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy"Mar 30 00:12
DaemonFCI take it back. There is one big pile of shit in Chicago. They call it the mayor.Mar 30 00:12
DaemonFCI had nothing to do with Mayor 50% less jobs and $6 a gallon gas, btw.Mar 30 00:13
mateydue to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy <- this really does sound like reproduction as explained by a lawyerMar 30 00:13
DaemonFC500% MOAR crime.Mar 30 00:13
kingoffrancei was going for first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes linux foundation in a baby carriageMar 30 00:13
DaemonFC<matey> due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy <- this really does sound like reproduction as explained by a lawyerMar 30 00:14
DaemonFCMost heterosexuals have unwanted pregnancies.Mar 30 00:14
DaemonFCThey don't take precautions because 9 months is basically forever.Mar 30 00:14
DaemonFCSo they get kids they didn't even want, over and over.Mar 30 00:14
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mateyhomosexuals have extremely few unwanted pregnanciesMar 30 00:14
DaemonFCBecause nobody knows where they come from anyway.Mar 30 00:14
DaemonFCSomething about the heterosexual brain is so perverse that it forgets what got them in that mess the last time.Mar 30 00:15
DaemonFC<matey> homosexuals have extremely few unwanted pregnanciesMar 30 00:15
mateyi think thats an overly broad statement tbhMar 30 00:15
kingoffrancei only seen matey recently, so i emphasize i was always a bsd user, never cared for "free software" as such, but i think older ppl at least recognized the shiftMar 30 00:15
schestowitzhttps://theorg.com/org/the-linux-foundation/org-chart/shubhra-karMar 30 00:15
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: theorg.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theorg.com/org/the-linux-foundation/org-chart/shubhra-karMar 30 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theorg.com | Shubhra Kar - Chief Technology Officer & GM, Products at The Linux Foundation | The OrgMar 30 00:15
DaemonFCYeah, I get to watch everyone else step on the rakes.Mar 30 00:15
schestowitzI cannot find when he joinedMar 30 00:15
DaemonFCIt's fun.Mar 30 00:15
kingoffranceolder ppl whatever "side" they were onMar 30 00:15
DaemonFCAmerica has a lot of problems and immigrants aren't really one of them, unless you count the descendants of the ones who their neighbors didn't like very much so they clunked them over the head and sold them a couple hundred years ago to get rid of the problems in their village.Mar 30 00:17
schestowitzhttps://www.cbinsights.com/investor/the-linux-foundationMar 30 00:17
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: cbinsights.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cbinsights.com/investor/the-linux-foundationMar 30 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbinsights.com | The Linux Foundation Portfolio Investments, The Linux Foundation Funds, The Linux Foundation ExitsMar 30 00:17
schestowitz"Mar 30 00:17
schestowitzShubhra KarMar 30 00:17
schestowitzJoyent, InfluxData, CA Technologies, Infosys Technologies, and Tata CommunicationsMar 30 00:17
schestowitz"Mar 30 00:18
schestowitz"Ranny Haiby as CTO of networking, edge & access technologies."Mar 30 00:18
schestowitzmaybe CTO fore that sub-groupMar 30 00:18
DaemonFC"You mean white people came on a ship and they actually want the ones that are raping and killing other villagers here, and they'll pay us?".Mar 30 00:18
DaemonFCNow to be sure, white people are to blame for that.Mar 30 00:18
mateychicago city app: "mr. farmer, please stop reporting 'more blacks' on the chicago city app, we do not consider this a legitimate use of the service"Mar 30 00:19
DaemonFCLOLMar 30 00:19
matey"mr garrison every year you suggest we get rid of all the mexicans and every year we tell you 'no'"Mar 30 00:19
DaemonFC"You obviously haven't been on the 67 bus recently, where one attacked the driver with a frozen chicken and we had to wait for the ambulance and the police."Mar 30 00:20
mateyfrozen chicken? ambulance?Mar 30 00:20
DaemonFCYes.Mar 30 00:20
mateydid they have a permit?Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/man-charged-after-beating-cta-driver-passenger-with-bag-of-frozen-chicken/Mar 30 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Man charged after beating CTA driver, passenger with bag of frozen chicken | WGN-TVMar 30 00:21
DaemonFCChicago Man has been busy, you know.Mar 30 00:21
mateywell, this is why they ban frozen chicken in the ukMar 30 00:21
mateytoo many people were getting muggedMar 30 00:21
DaemonFCCHICAGO โ€” Chicago police say a 27-year-old man attacked a CTA bus driver and a passenger with a bag of frozen chicken.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCCaleb Russell  boarded the bus last Wednesday afternoon and tried to flirt with a woman.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCWhen she refused his advances, he hit her with the frozen chicken.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCWhen the CTA driver came to her rescue, he was kicked and beaten with the chicken.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCHis face was damaged so badly, he needed gum surgery.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCRussell is charged with battery and aggravated battery.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCCourt records show, Russell was sentenced to two years in prison in 2014 for making a bomb threat on a CTA bus.Mar 30 00:21
DaemonFCAggravated battery /USE DDLY WEAPON Mar 30 00:22
DaemonFC(The chicken.)Mar 30 00:22
mateycould veganism be the answer?Mar 30 00:22
techrights-newsArduino goes pro with Linux and a big chip on its latest board http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162945#comment-33231Mar 30 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Portenta X8 is the first Linux Arduino board | Tux MachinesMar 30 00:23
DaemonFCChicago Man attacks CTA driver, passenger, with bag of Beyond Chicken?Mar 30 00:23
mateyoof, thats even worseMar 30 00:23
mateybecause apart from the force trauma he could be allergic to glutenMar 30 00:24
DaemonFCThey say it mostly tastes like chicken.Mar 30 00:24
techrights-news"base power of 150 watts"???? Insane. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/intel_corei9_12900ks/Mar 30 00:24
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/intel_corei9_12900ks/Mar 30 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Intel counters AMDโ€™s big-cache PC chip with 5.5GHz rival โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 00:24
mateyat this point it would probably be easier to just have a list of things that DONT taste mostly like chickenMar 30 00:25
mateystarting with jumpmeatMar 30 00:25
psydruidx86 hardware at this point is totally insaneMar 30 00:26
psydruidit's only for "gamers"Mar 30 00:26
schestowitz-TRmake more nuclear power plantsMar 30 00:26
schestowitz-TRfor shitcoin and x86Mar 30 00:26
schestowitz-TRand for people who drive 10 mile for a latte and toastMar 30 00:26
mateythe latte i can understand because who has a really good steamerMar 30 00:27
psydruidpeople who buy that hardware should feel the wrath of the frozen chickenMar 30 00:27
mateybut who needs a barista to make them toast?Mar 30 00:27
matey(plus avacado)Mar 30 00:27
matey<psydruid> people who buy that hardware should feel the wrath of the frozen chicken <- or beyond chickenMar 30 00:28
matey(if theyre vegan)Mar 30 00:28
psydruidthe coconut touchMar 30 00:28
schestowitz-TRtyson chickenMar 30 00:29
schestowitz-TRin your faceMar 30 00:29
schestowitz-TRbites your ear off, tooMar 30 00:29
mateyin soviet russian tyson chicken eats your childrenMar 30 00:29
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NB_CB1p5Q4Mar 30 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7NB_CB1p5Q4Mar 30 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | I Will Eat Your Children - InvidiousMar 30 00:30
mateytyson vs. van goghMar 30 00:30
mateythis is going to be too easyMar 30 00:31
kingoffrancei'll allow it -- mills laneMar 30 00:31
schestowitz-TRmatey: he bit off more tha he could chewMar 30 00:31
schestowitz-TRchoo chooMar 30 00:31
schestowitz-TRi had 'earios' in my first web siteMar 30 00:31
schestowitz-TR1997/8Mar 30 00:31
mateywhen i first read the story i thought it was earsayMar 30 00:32
schestowitz-TRear esr!Mar 30 00:32
schestowitz-TRear earMar 30 00:32
schestowitz-TRanother tyson, more recent:Mar 30 00:33
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8gNTVn3Mp0Mar 30 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H8gNTVn3Mp0Mar 30 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Fury Explains Why He Licked Wilder's Blood (YouTube Flagged This Video) - InvidiousMar 30 00:33
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrOo6W-nWT4Mar 30 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KrOo6W-nWT4Mar 30 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Tyson Fury Licked Deontay Wilder ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ˜ฌ #TysonFury #DeontayWilder #WilderFury2 - InvidiousMar 30 00:34
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163126Mar 30 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 30 00:42
DaemonFChttps://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001277/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-new-optionsMar 30 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11 - The VergeMar 30 00:43
DaemonFCMicrosoft seems to have given up trying to swat down all of the EdgeDeflector clones.Mar 30 00:43
schestowitz-TR"Easier"?Mar 30 00:44
schestowitz-TRor "possible"?Mar 30 00:44
schestowitz-TRThis Gates/Microsoft spin machine downplays what happenedMar 30 00:44
techrights-newsOnce again 'FOSS'life Team promotes proprietary software, vendor lockin, and worse things for Microsoft's criminals. This isn't FOSS. It's spitting on FOSS and on dignity. https://www.fosslife.org/load-testing-github-actionsMar 30 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Load Testing with GitHub ActionsMar 30 00:47
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techrights-newsNotice how they never arrest CEOs for the same; they do not even prosecute them (e.g. Intel CEO, Microsoft executives...) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/twilio_insider_trading/Mar 30 00:53
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/twilio_insider_trading/Mar 30 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Twilio developer trio charged with insider trading โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 00:53
techrights-newsGNU Poke Release and Video โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163127Mar 30 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Poke Release and Video | Tux MachinesMar 30 00:54
DaemonFChttps://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-human-waste-feces-homeless-Reddit-13044317.phpMar 30 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | '20 pounds of human waste' dropped on San Francisco street cornerMar 30 00:58
DaemonFChttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/18/san-francisco-poop-problem-inequality-homelessnessMar 30 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Why is San Francisco ... covered in human feces? | Nathan Robinson | The GuardianMar 30 00:58
DaemonFChttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/san-francisco-s-sidewalk-poop-crisis-explainedMar 30 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 30 00:58
DaemonFChttps://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homelessness-poop-graffiti-2018-11Mar 30 00:58
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homelessness-poop-graffiti-2018-11Mar 30 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | San Francisco Has Poop Graffiti on Streets and SidewalksMar 30 00:58
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–‡โ–‡โ–‚โ–†โ–‚โ–‡โ–„โ–โ–…โ–…โ–โ–‚โ–‡โ–…โ–โ–‡โ–‚โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–ˆโ–…โ–…โ–‚โ–‚โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–…โ–…โ– avg(k/sec) 38.35 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–ˆโ– avg(k/sec) 58.35โ–• swarm size (avg): 234.68  โŸฒMar 30 00:59
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU_SPdPVr88Mar 30 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wU_SPdPVr88Mar 30 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Triumph The Insult Comic Dog Poops On Voters - InvidiousMar 30 00:59
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVmu6uHEDHIMar 30 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wVmu6uHEDHIMar 30 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Aliens 1986: The Best Shootout Scene 4K - InvidiousMar 30 00:59
DaemonFCmjg59_, ^Mar 30 00:59
DaemonFC:)Mar 30 00:59
DaemonFC"Difficult Street People"Mar 30 01:01
DaemonFCSounds like a good name for a band, doesn't it?Mar 30 01:01
DaemonFCMinceR, So Mandy was reading a site that said, "I lost a testicle in an accident. Does that make me weird?". I said, "Well, the other one will compensate for it. Funny how nature prioritizes for backups, isn't it? You lose one heart, you die. You lose one testical, you can still reproduce.".Mar 30 01:04
DaemonFC*testicle Mar 30 01:04
DaemonFCBut I mean, like, why two of THAT?Mar 30 01:04
DaemonFCIf one works, why two?Mar 30 01:04
DaemonFCWhy not a binary circulatory system?Mar 30 01:05
DaemonFChttps://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-a-binary-circulatory-system-over-an-unary-circulatory-systemMar 30 01:06
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: quora.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-a-binary-circulatory-system-over-an-unary-circulatory-systemMar 30 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What are the advantages and disadvantages of a binary circulatory system over an unary circulatory system? - QuoraMar 30 01:06
DaemonFCI guess this works though.Mar 30 01:06
DaemonFCAs for The Doctor, the second heart doesn't make much sense. Time Lords regenerate instead of dying.Mar 30 01:06
schestowitz-TRanyway, enough of this shitMar 30 01:07
DaemonFCWhat's the point in limping around with half your circulatory function when you can just regenerate?Mar 30 01:07
schestowitz-TRback to techMar 30 01:07
techrights-newsFixes? It's a bug. Remove the bug. Remove Windows. https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fixes-for-slow-context-menu-on-windows-11/Mar 30 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fixes-for-slow-context-menu-on-windows-11/ )Mar 30 01:08
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The shitstorm did, in fact, go to the mayor's office. Perhaps they should call in the National Guard for the War on Shit.Mar 30 01:08
DaemonFCOkay, I'll stop now.Mar 30 01:09
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techrights-newsGulag resumes shoveling stuff into its 'Privacy Sandbox' - El Reg โš“ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/google_privacy_sandbox/ ไท‰ Source: theregisterMar 30 01:11
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: theregister.com | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/google_privacy_sandbox/Mar 30 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google resumes shoveling stuff into its 'Privacy Sandbox' โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 01:11
techrights-newsTake the next step in "living liberation": watch the LibrePlanet 2022 videos today! โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163128Mar 30 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Take the next step in "living liberation": watch the LibrePlanet 2022 videos today! | Tux MachinesMar 30 01:11
DaemonFChttps://www.incredibleegg.org/recipes/cooking-lessons/can-i-freeze-eggsMar 30 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.incredibleegg.org | Can You Freeze Eggs? | Incredible EggMar 30 01:12
DaemonFCI might beat and freeze some eggs.Mar 30 01:12
DaemonFCWith all of the Bidenflation going on, couldn't hurt....Mar 30 01:12
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activelowDaemonFC> Okay, I'll stop now.Mar 30 01:43
activelowobviously notMar 30 01:43
activelowDaemonFC: what are you doing, other than injecting your wisdom into here?Mar 30 01:44
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DaemonFChttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/well/live/gaslighting-doctors-patients-health.htmlMar 30 04:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | What Is โ€˜Medical Gaslightingโ€™ and How Can You Elevate Health Care - The New York TimesMar 30 04:01
DaemonFCBULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHITMar 30 04:01
DaemonFCI had a doctor completely ignore my blood pressure. Figured I'd save money and just go down to the Health Department. You get what you pay for. Plus, with all of the liberal indoctrination going on.....Mar 30 04:02
DaemonFCI mean to get a job with the state government you basically have to be a Democrat Party sycophant.Mar 30 04:02
DaemonFCI haven't seen a single person working for the county who isn't.Mar 30 04:02
DaemonFC"Mrs. Rishe, who lives in Los Angeles, found a highly recommended cardiologist in the Midwest and flew there to see him. He immediately dismissed her symptoms, she said. โ€œPeople who have these heart conditions arenโ€™t this sick,โ€ she remembers him saying. He prescribed a new heart medication, told her to exercise and sent her home.Mar 30 04:04
DaemonFCUnsatisfied with her care, Mrs. Rishe saw yet another doctor, who ordered extensive tests that found her arteries were spasming from a lack of oxygen. โ€œI was basically having mini-heart attacks, whenever I was having chest pain,โ€ she said. Two months later, she had open-heart surgery to correct the problem, which she later learned may have saved her life."Mar 30 04:04
DaemonFCObviously everyone who has ever encountered a stupid doctor with a degree on the wall is a victim of "racism", like my mother, who is white, and had a doctor laugh at her skin cancer, and then she got a second opinion and they started treatment right away.Mar 30 04:04
DaemonFCThat was in 1986 and the only reason she's alive today is because she didn't stop with the doctor that refused to treat her and said that it was a benign growth.Mar 30 04:05
DaemonFCI mean, there's a lot of doctors out there who really shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine. Just because you found one doesn't mean they're racist, or homophobic, or whatever.Mar 30 04:06
DaemonFCAnd just think about how if you were lucky to survive them, how many patients are not smart enough to go somewhere else, who that doctor ultimately kills, while making the payments on his Lexus.Mar 30 04:07
DaemonFCWhen I wanted to get on PrEP medication in Chicago, I found a doctor, who refused to treat me. Instead of filing a lawsuit, I just didn't go back to that doctor again. His name is John Nicholas.Mar 30 04:09
DaemonFCErr, Nicolas...Mar 30 04:09
DaemonFChttps://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/faculty-profiles/az/profile.html?xid=12420Mar 30 04:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.feinberg.northwestern.edu | John D Nicolas : Faculty Profile: Faculty Profiles: Feinberg School of Medicine: Northwestern UniversityMar 30 04:09
DaemonFCThat's right, in CHICAGO, you have to go to a clinic where the doctors actually do their job and treat the patient. There's plenty of homophobic doctors in Chicago.Mar 30 04:10
DaemonFCBut you'll never prove it even if it is against the law, so don't bother.Mar 30 04:10
DaemonFC"Studies have shown that compared with men, women face longer waits to be diagnosed with cancer and heart disease, are treated less aggressively for traumatic brain injury, and are less likely to be offered pain medications."Mar 30 04:11
DaemonFCThis is actually not true at all. Mar 30 04:12
DaemonFCMen are more likely than women to be undiagnosed and untreated for everything in the first place because they're less likely to be insured, go to the doctor, and complain about things loudly enough to be taken seriously and treated.Mar 30 04:12
DaemonFC"People of color often receive poorer quality care, too."Mar 30 04:13
DaemonFCThat is probably true, but it's not what it looks like. Black people are less likely to be insured, but the government lowered the uninsured rate by giving them Medicaid, which pays like nothing. One doctor told me she couldn't accept Medicaid because it doesn't even pay enough to cover the billing department submitting a claim. The state of California pays $4 for a well child visit.Mar 30 04:14
DaemonFCAnd if you don't bill a Medicaid patient to Medicaid, you can be charged with fraud, so there's not only nowhere to use it, but it locks you out of charity care once you sign up.Mar 30 04:15
DaemonFCThe liberals managed to fuck this up too, even though it costs a fortune. (Second most expensive item on the California state budget after education is Medicaid.).Mar 30 04:15
DaemonFCThe ones in Illinois aren't far behind California. They want to spend $250 million a year on Medicaid for illegal immigrants, even though the program has utterly failed.Mar 30 04:17
DaemonFC"For instance, Dr. Spencerโ€™s research suggests that women are twice as likely as men to be diagnosed with a mental illness when their symptoms are consistent with heart disease."Mar 30 04:18
DaemonFCIf you go to the hospital and they say anything about having "psych" talk to you, leave. And if you can't leave, don't talk to them.Mar 30 04:19
DaemonFC"Women may be misdiagnosed more often than men, in part, because scientists know far less about the female body than they do about the male body, even though โ€œthere are biological differences that go down to the cellular level,โ€ said Chloe Bird, a senior sociologist at Pardee RAND Graduate School who studies womenโ€™s health."Mar 30 04:20
DaemonFCOh boy, don't tell our resident failed biologist that!Mar 30 04:20
DaemonFCGender is all in your head. There's absolutely no biology involved.Mar 30 04:20
DaemonFC;)Mar 30 04:21
DaemonFC"And โ€œsee another doctor if you feel dismissed,โ€ Dr. McGregor said. You might even want to consider seeking out a woman physician or a provider with better cultural competence, who may better โ€œunderstand your perspective and language.โ€"Mar 30 04:22
DaemonFC100% agree with if your doctor is an idiot who ignores your very real symptoms of disease (hypertension is not difficult to diagnose), leave.Mar 30 04:23
DaemonFCBut the second part is just sexism.Mar 30 04:23
DaemonFCIn my experience, there's about as many incompetent female doctors as there are incompetent male doctors. So it's not really like choosing a doctor based on their gender is going to help you much. It's all luck of the draw.Mar 30 04:24
mjg59_"failed biologist"?Mar 30 04:28
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DaemonFCIf someone were to say that gender is purely a state of mind.Mar 30 04:47
DaemonFCGender dysphoria is, of course.Mar 30 04:49
DaemonFCmjg59_, I have an idea for San Francisco. They can start distributing Airtags for the shit, and then the city can use Find My Shit to find the shit.Mar 30 04:51
MinceR"have you noticed that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff?"   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLacMar 30 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLacMar 30 04:55
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DaemonFCMinceR, San Francisco is number one in America in piles of shit per capita.Mar 30 04:57
DaemonFCNew York City was second, with 160 times fewer shit on the sidewalk complaints per capita.Mar 30 04:58
MinceRis this metric based solely on complaints?Mar 30 04:58
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DaemonFCYeah.Mar 30 04:59
MinceRthat could skew thingsMar 30 04:59
MinceRmaybe people somewhere are more used to shit on the sidewalk and/or don't mind it as muchMar 30 04:59
MinceRor they think complaining won't helpMar 30 04:59
DaemonFCIt's been going on for years in San Francisco.Mar 30 05:00
DaemonFCIn 2019, there were 35% more complaints about human shit on the sidewalk than in 2018 according to the city's app.Mar 30 05:00
DaemonFCOf course, more people could be installing the app specifically to complain about a volume of shit that is staying roughly the same.Mar 30 05:01
MinceRalso, do they report number of turds, volume of shit, mass of shit or some other metric?Mar 30 05:02
DaemonFCDensity, size, whether it tested positive for COVID-19.....?Mar 30 05:03
MinceR:>Mar 30 05:03
MinceRif only count is reported, high amounts could coalesce into a smaller number of turdsMar 30 05:04
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mjg59_DaemonFC: Your accusation that I'm a failed biologist is because you (someone who has no qualifications in biology) disagree with me (someone who has a PhD in biology)?Mar 30 05:12
mjg59_Not trying to appeal to authority by asserting that this means you're wrong, just trying to understand what your actual argument isMar 30 05:12
DaemonFCIt seems people with a degree are deliberately lying about what gender and sex are for political brownie points to me.Mar 30 05:14
MinceR๐ŸฟMar 30 05:23
activelowanyway, digging, Aboriginal Linux is dead too:Mar 30 05:26
activelowhttp://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.htmlMar 30 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project.Mar 30 05:26
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activelowseems to have been both, which coincides with the timeline of GCC switching to c++ as one technical issue, besides GPLv3, and a load of other problemsMar 30 05:27
activelowgcc-4.7 was year 2013, three years later another crucial project vanishedMar 30 05:28
DaemonFCGCC has been falling apart for years.Mar 30 05:28
DaemonFCWhen your debugger crashes and needs debuggering.Mar 30 05:28
activelowbinutils too, it seems, according to the emailMar 30 05:29
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activelowi am not too optimistic yet, about TinyCC; still was hunting some minor bugs with the gcc-4.7 toolchain, and need some more days or a week or two for some other taksMar 30 05:30
activelowtasksMar 30 05:30
DaemonFCNobody even talks about Kubuntu anymore.Mar 30 05:30
DaemonFCWell, that's a shame.Mar 30 05:30
activelowirelevant, it's the compiler/toolchain with unresolved issuesMar 30 05:30
activelowwhich affects almost _all_ projects, including *BSD, all linux distros, everythingMar 30 05:31
activelow"been playing a little with LLVM, maybe I should do more of that,but it's a giant hairball nightmare written in C++"... well gcc too is nowadaysMar 30 05:32
activelowanyway, other than TinyCC (and mostly unmaintained PCC from SCO) there is little to nothing remaining, as a reliable toolchain to rely upon, long-termMar 30 05:33
activelowand, with C11 creeping into, the situation will become worseMar 30 05:33
activelowGPL3 too is a problem, not for me, which is the requirements for dual-licensing often with it; not sure what FSF had been thinkingMar 30 05:35
activelowbecause, how should GPL3 prevent tivoization, assuming if it is the copyright-holders which may enforce GPL, and if those had no interest in enforcement then GPLv3 is moot anywayMar 30 05:35
activelowhowever, the dual licensing is annoying, none of my concerns;Mar 30 05:36
activelowwake me up when TinyCC becomes a GNU project, with support from FSF, and kernel maintenance for itMar 30 05:40
activelowsoon i'll iteratively swap GCC with TinyCC with the base-system package set here, knowing already what fails and requires hacks (musl, gcc, kernel)Mar 30 05:41
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activelowthere is another 700+ packages to verify, and see if it is somewhat stable, for aarch32 and aarch64Mar 30 05:41
activelowwhich is the c-only profileMar 30 05:42
activelowwould be cool, if binutils too can be kicked out, since TinyCC got a linker, ar, asMar 30 05:42
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DaemonFCI suppose it's lost on the idiots running Germany that in their mad rush to ruin the economy of the former East Germany that they tore down perfectly usable nuclear power plants.Mar 30 05:59
DaemonFCAnd that they, in fact, set up this entire energy crisis with the Russian gas.Mar 30 06:00
activelowDaemonFC: why not stay on topic?Mar 30 06:01
activelowhttp://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.htmlMar 30 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project.Mar 30 06:01
DaemonFCLandley isn't really my favorite person.Mar 30 06:01
DaemonFCHe takes cash to assist GPL violators.Mar 30 06:01
DaemonFCWell, I see my upstairs neighbors are cooking something. The fire alarm is going off.Mar 30 06:03
DaemonFCThat means it's done.Mar 30 06:03
activelowagain steering towards off-topic, Landley support GPL2Mar 30 06:03
DaemonFCHe helps companies like Sony dodge the consequences of GPL violation with that Toybox thing.Mar 30 06:04
activelowsince FSF prominence presence here, i would be curious, about both technical issues escalating since 2013, and the political strategyMar 30 06:04
activelowhttp://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.htmlMar 30 06:04
DaemonFCSony ought to be sued for XCP again if the lawsuit against Vizio succeeds.Mar 30 06:04
activelowDaemonFC: it is the authors of a software to enforce GPL, and if FSF isn't the author or mandated to enforce there isn't any violation to begin withMar 30 06:04
DaemonFCThey included source code under the LGPL in it, in violation of that license.Mar 30 06:05
DaemonFCThat's not necessarily what US law says.Mar 30 06:05
activelowAuthor's rights are _international_ lawMar 30 06:05
DaemonFCVizio is being sued in a court in California.Mar 30 06:05
DaemonFCThere's no such thing as international law.Mar 30 06:05
activelowof cause there is, Berne Convention, authors' rightsMar 30 06:06
DaemonFCThere are various agreements, but United States law is supreme and controlling here.Mar 30 06:06
DaemonFCThe US Supreme Court has said as much.Mar 30 06:06
activelowanyway, that's again steering towards off-topicMar 30 06:06
DaemonFCInternational agreements that violate the US Constitution or US laws are therefore null and void as far as their bearing on domestic law.Mar 30 06:06
DaemonFCCongress can also repeal treaties if it wants to, but those treaties usually have some mechanism for the president to do it by himself.Mar 30 06:07
activelowGPL2 is a license, not law, and of authors chose not to enforce it, their own software (not any FSF had written), then there is no violation of lawMar 30 06:07
activelow*and ifMar 30 06:07
DaemonFCBut in no way, shape, or form does any alleged "international law" control an author's copyright in the US if their claim violates US law.Mar 30 06:08
DaemonFCIt's only valid insofar as their rights under US law are concerned.Mar 30 06:08
activelowit is author's rights, including a license an author may or may not chose for software written himself, or chose to enforce or notMar 30 06:09
DaemonFCGermany has a somewhat "unique" perspective on copyright law. It's cute, but it also doesn't apply to me.Mar 30 06:09
activelowif kernel developers choose GPL2, FSF has that much authority over this decision: 0, zero, none, nilMar 30 06:10
DaemonFCThey don't have any particular rights that a US person wouldn't have.Mar 30 06:10
DaemonFCRight, but users can sue a GPL violator.Mar 30 06:10
activelowand if kernel developers chose not to enforce GPL2 with tivoized products, then that's the decision of the authors of the software, not the FSFMar 30 06:10
DaemonFCIt goes under contract law at that point.Mar 30 06:10
DaemonFCThe GPL is an enforceable contract with the user.Mar 30 06:10
activelowon which legal basis should a user sue whom for what?Mar 30 06:11
DaemonFCWell, the author and the user both have enforcement rights.Mar 30 06:11
DaemonFCIt's just whether it's under copyright law or contract law.Mar 30 06:11
DaemonFCIn the Vizio case, what's most likely to happen is that Vizio will be compelled to "perform" their "contractual obligations" to the user under the GPL.Mar 30 06:12
activelowbesides author's rights, berne convention, which is the author decides, which license, which terms, not the FSFMar 30 06:12
DaemonFCI didn't say someone else could change the license. That can't typically happen unless something else has occurred that gave them a way to do that.Mar 30 06:13
DaemonFCFor example, the default language of the GPL is "this version or any later version" and the default language of the LGPL is "this version, any later version, or the GPL".Mar 30 06:13
DaemonFCIt has an option to convert it to the full GPL.Mar 30 06:14
activelowi fundementally disagree with tivoization; however, somehow, this is what users and developers deserve, given their poor judgement which hardwaer was acceptable and which wasn'tMar 30 06:14
activelowremembering RMS posing with IBM Wintel LaptopMar 30 06:14
DaemonFCOne that thad the firmware totally replaced, but yeah sure.Mar 30 06:14
activelowwow, impressive.Mar 30 06:15
activelowi mean, this shows, where FSF is standing.Mar 30 06:15
DaemonFCThat particular model had a free firmware and had the Management Engine disabled, and had free firmware for the wifi and everything. The wifi that came with the laptop was obsolete, so they dug in and changed to a different chip that had free firmware.Mar 30 06:15
DaemonFCIf you load a firmware that borks the management engine, it's no longer a threat.Mar 30 06:16
activelowalong the lines of argument you present here, DaemonFC, inentionally distracting, from the fact, the toolchain _all_ "free" software projects rely upon is approaching a state, which i am not willing to git-pull anymoreMar 30 06:16
activelowsame with linux kernelMar 30 06:16
DaemonFCThe Linux kernel has always been full of non-free crap.Mar 30 06:16
DaemonFCAnd it's gotten worse every release.Mar 30 06:16
DaemonFCThe FSF can't write replacements for tens of thousands of firmware blobs where the manufacturer won't tell anyone anything about the hardware.Mar 30 06:17
DaemonFCBut it does sponsor a de-blobbing script.Mar 30 06:17
activelowthe FSF is a misnomer from the beginning, because free software cannot be separated from hardware (which is an artificial, political distinction, not a technical one as such, an engineer would know)Mar 30 06:18
DaemonFCSo it sounds like you're saying since they can't rid the Earth of every proprietary program, they should give up trying to do anything.Mar 30 06:18
activelowinstead, FSF served, with GCC, to implement a load of extensions for proprietary malicious hardware extensions (IBM Wintel mainly)Mar 30 06:19
DaemonFCWell, of course they support x86 extensions.Mar 30 06:19
activelowin fact, GCC became a utility, for proprietary/malicious systems, intentional or not, my opinionMar 30 06:19
DaemonFCx86 is the most popular CPU architecture, by far.Mar 30 06:19
activelowand the last open-source one is some real-mode i8086 system, including verilog, which again requires proprietary Altera stuffMar 30 06:20
activelowanywayMar 30 06:20
DaemonFCAnd the others you're likely to use are probably worse unless you buy something from China that nobody's ever heard of. Stallman did that, eventually, after getting rid of the deblobbed ThinkPad.Mar 30 06:20
DaemonFCHe was using a laptop with a Loongson CPU.Mar 30 06:21
activelowlet's try to keep this on-topic for a dayMar 30 06:22
activelowhttp://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.htmlMar 30 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project.Mar 30 06:22
activelowwould be curious too, what mjg59_ thinksMar 30 06:23
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mjg59_GPLv3's power has been reduced by corporations rejecting it, which is not surprising but stillMar 30 06:28
mjg59_But I think the real problem was that GFDL was a terrible errorMar 30 06:28
DaemonFCCorporations rejecting it doesn't really matter. It was designed so they'd accept it or have to avoid it and spend time and money writing their own stuff.Mar 30 06:29
DaemonFCApple replaced Samba with some shit that doesn't even work and crashes the Mac.Mar 30 06:29
mjg59_And the community was less willing to trust the FSF over GPLv3 as a resultMar 30 06:29
mjg59_Like, GFDL was a fucking huge fight between the FSF and DebianMar 30 06:29
DaemonFCNow that Samba is ditching SMBv1 entirely and some later extensions, and Apple has been saying use SMBv1 as a workaround so they don't have to fix the Mac....Mar 30 06:30
mjg59_That was the first meaningful split between Debian and the FSF other than non-freeMar 30 06:30
DaemonFCIt'll be a bad time to be a Mac user if you need SMB. That's for sure.Mar 30 06:30
mjg59_And it was the first where Debian was explicitly rejecting the FSFMar 30 06:30
mjg59_So a whole set of people who should have been naturally aligned with the FSF were instead primed to think their new licenses were badMar 30 06:31
DaemonFCWell, I'd like to use something else, but mainly the reason I won't use Ubuntu is because of the huge Microsoft ads they're paid to put there.Mar 30 06:31
DaemonFCAnd recommending WSL, which is hilarious because it's not a solution.Mar 30 06:32
DaemonFCI used to use Ubuntu, but when I came back and saw Microsoft ads all over it, I knew they probably wouldn't be around long.Mar 30 06:32
DaemonFCAnyone who partners with Microsoft isn't around very long to tell about it.Mar 30 06:33
DaemonFCRoy lost a lot of his bashers, you know, when Novell went POOF.Mar 30 06:33
DaemonFCAnd the Mono "community" stopped immediately.Mar 30 06:33
DaemonFCAnd there's tons of GPLv3 things in a GNU/Linux distribution.Mar 30 06:34
DaemonFCAnd even Microsoft ships those.Mar 30 06:34
DaemonFCThe "rejection" you speak of is that they want to harm users in ways the GPLv3 doesn't allow.Mar 30 06:34
DaemonFCSo they can go build their own fucking software to do it with.Mar 30 06:35
DaemonFCWindows is a clunker and a lemon, but the government and hollywood want to foist it on people due to built-in spyware and DRM.Mar 30 06:35
DaemonFCThe GPL makes DRM and spyware inconvenient, especially with the anti-tivoization clause.Mar 30 06:38
DaemonFCInconvenient in the sense it wouldn't work because you'd have to describe how they do work and disclaim that the DRM is an "effective technical measure" under the DMCA.Mar 30 06:39
DaemonFCSo if they avoid it, who cares? It makes them weaker. Apple's SMBX is hardly the only case where they've managed to harm themselves to dodge the GPL.Mar 30 06:40
DaemonFCAnd it also shows that when Apple writes a program themselves, they have no idea what they're doing.Mar 30 06:40
DaemonFCSo the best parts of Mac OS were pretty much just swiped here and there by people who only had a vague overall idea of how to piece them together.Mar 30 06:41
DaemonFCThey can't write a replacement for Samba that works, but they're doing system level programming?Mar 30 06:41
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–โ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–ƒโ–‡โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–…โ–โ–‡โ–‚โ–‡โ– avg(k/sec) 25.95 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–†โ–โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 90.36โ–• swarm size (avg): 411.05  โŸฒMar 30 06:59
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techrights-newsDid they forget the biggest criminals, from Microsoft, who likely bribed politicians to go after Microsoft's rivals? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/doj_to_congress_thumbs_up/Mar 30 07:37
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techrights-news"The RcppBDT package is an early adopter of Rcpp and was one of the first packages utilizing Boost and its Date_Time library. The now more widely-used package anytime is a direct descentant of RcppBDT. Thanks again for the heads-up!" http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/03/29#rcppbdt_0.2.5Mar 30 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the boxMar 30 07:38
mateyim (still) on the same side as debian regarding the fdl, but i find it difficult to believe that the fdl had more impact on gpl3 adoption than the anti-gpl3 lobbying and linus campaigning against itMar 30 07:39
techrights-newsMicrosoft is a company built on crime. Technology is just a side activity.Mar 30 07:40
matey(if any)Mar 30 07:41
mjg59_matey: It meant Debian wasn't naturally aligned with gpl3Mar 30 07:42
mateyoh i get the argumentMar 30 07:42
mateyit just seems like a stretch. and i sort of passionately hate the fdl Mar 30 07:42
mateyjust for being backwardsMar 30 07:43
mateymy position on it is (as far as i can tell) identical to that of debiansMar 30 07:43
mjg59_GFDL prioritised the FSF over anything elseMar 30 07:43
techrights-newsChrome 100 is out. The version inflation will break lots of code now, assuming an expectation of single- or two-digit version # https://chromestatus.com/features#milestone%3D100Mar 30 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromestatus.com | Chrome Platform StatusMar 30 07:43
mateyhowso?Mar 30 07:44
mjg59_The whole invariant section stuffMar 30 07:44
mjg59_It was intended to protect FSF advocacyMar 30 07:44
mjg59_The front/back cover stuff was less badMar 30 07:45
mjg59_But it was the first strong indication that the FSF had its own opinion about what the mission of free software was, without meaningfully discussing that with the people who were doing the most to ship free software to end usersMar 30 07:46
techrights-newsFedora Linux 36 Beta now available for download with GNOME 42 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33232Mar 30 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux MachinesMar 30 07:46
mateyperens: ""FSF, a Free Software organization, isn't being entirely true to the Free Software ethos while it is promoting a license that allows invariant sections to be applied to anything but the license text and attribution. [...] the GFDL isn't consistent with the ethos that FSF has promoted for 19 years."Mar 30 07:46
mateypersonally i dropped my fsf membership specifically over their promotion of no-derivs all over the websiteMar 30 07:47
mateyim a free software AND free culture advocate, and i feel they misrepresent free culture (with fud)Mar 30 07:47
mjg59_The FSF's failure to engage with CC in the very early days was a mistakeMar 30 07:48
mateyim aware of numerous attempts to fix this, which arguably (if only partially) failedMar 30 07:48
mjg59_It's made CC a worse family of licensesMar 30 07:48
mateyThe FSF's failure to engage with CC in the very early days was a mistake <- this i strongly agree with, and have said for many yearsMar 30 07:48
mateyit was an enormous loss for both sidesMar 30 07:48
mjg59_And then the FSF failed to support Debian in engaging with CC when we tried to fix some basic issuesMar 30 07:49
mateyissues such as?Mar 30 07:49
mateyi mean the fdl counts, i hate itMar 30 07:49
mjg59_CC didn't allow you to put material on DRM-encumbered media even if you distributed a free copy as wellMar 30 07:49
mjg59_So it's basically impossible to put CC material on Blu RayMar 30 07:50
techrights-newsFedora downtime (they outsourced to Amazon, ICBS Clown not good enough): "Serveral virthosts (including the one running pagure.io) are not responding. We are working with datacenter staff to evaluate the issue and bring it back on line. There is no ETA at the moment."Mar 30 07:50
mjg59_Even if you also give people a download that they can modifyMar 30 07:50
mateydo you happen to know kat walshs position on that?Mar 30 07:50
techrights-newsLinux in the Ham Shack Episode #460: Winds of Change https://lhspodcast.info/2022/03/lhs-episode-460-winds-of-change-2/Mar 30 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #460: Winds of Change | Linux in the Ham ShackMar 30 07:51
mjg59_I think it's evolved since that - the last time I pressed on this was back around 2005Mar 30 07:51
mateyshe worked on cc 4.0Mar 30 07:51
mateyand was on the fsf board Mar 30 07:51
mjg59_But it was basically just Debian, not FSFMar 30 07:51
mjg59_Hey I was also on the fsf boardMar 30 07:51
mateyi realise thatMar 30 07:51
mateybut i dont know if it was at the same timeMar 30 07:51
mjg59_We overlapped a littleMar 30 07:52
mateyshes the only person from the fsf ive met in person Mar 30 07:52
mateytwice, purely by chanceMar 30 07:52
mateylong time agoMar 30 07:52
mjg59_But honestly by then it was so an issue from the pastMar 30 07:52
mjg59_Urgh how was this 17 years agoMar 30 07:53
mateycause we are old Mar 30 07:54
mateywell, not terriblyMar 30 07:54
mateybut i think i was in my 20s when i wet walshMar 30 07:54
techrights-newsit is correct to refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163129Mar 30 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | it is correct to refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesMar 30 07:54
schestowitz-TRmetMar 30 07:55
mateythanksMar 30 07:55
schestowitz-TRkind of a bad typoMar 30 07:55
mateytime for tea, this is an unacceptable level of typosMar 30 07:55
mateyno its a fucking terrible typo, but ive been tired lately and muscle memory is doing half the workMar 30 07:55
mateyas evidenced by quite a few typos latelyMar 30 07:56
schestowitz-TRI could make a joke about the typoMar 30 07:56
mateynot that my "typemanship" is ever great, its just been particularly bad this weekMar 30 07:56
schestowitz-TRbut any joke would be tastelessMar 30 07:56
mjg59_It would be, yupMar 30 07:56
matey <schestowitz-TR> I could make a joke about the typo <- yes i could too, but that would only make it worseMar 30 07:56
mateywhen i looked up at the line of text i thought "jesus christ"Mar 30 07:57
mateyand it is now time to make teaMar 30 07:57
schestowitz-TRanyway, moving on...Mar 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRI'm preparing daily "HowTos"Mar 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRlots of sites with clownflare are now blockedMar 30 07:58
schestowitz-TReven their RSS feedsMar 30 07:58
schestowitz-TRwhat a stupid, stupid CNDMar 30 07:58
schestowitz-TReven puts XML files behind JS challengesMar 30 07:58
schestowitz-TR*CDNMar 30 07:58
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–„โ–ƒโ–„โ–‚โ–ˆโ–…โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–…โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–…โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–…โ–โ–„โ–ƒโ–†โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–†โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–„โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 47.15 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‡โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 81.20โ–• swarm size (avg): 231.11  โŸฒMar 30 07:59
schestowitz-TRso the only alternative is,Mar 30 07:59
schestowitz-TRput the address of the RSS feed in a browserMar 30 07:59
schestowitz-TRand manually check for diffsMar 30 07:59
schestowitz-TRthis is insaneMar 30 07:59
schestowitz-TRCF: EEEMar 30 08:00
schestowitz-TR'free' CDNMar 30 08:00
schestowitz-TRmore restrictionsMar 30 08:00
schestowitz-TRnow you must payMar 30 08:00
schestowitz-TR(CF always operates at losses)Mar 30 08:00
matey<schestowitz-TR> even their RSS feeds <- roflMar 30 08:03
schestowitz-TRi think they are now awareMar 30 08:03
matey"we think your rss reader might be malware. please solve this capt-- um..."Mar 30 08:03
schestowitz-TRthey basically zapped off all their followersMar 30 08:03
schestowitz-TRsame thing with sites that outsourced to feedburner (gulag)Mar 30 08:03
matey"please instruct your rss reader to solve this captcha"Mar 30 08:04
matey"somehow"Mar 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRbut in the case of CF, they can turn that offMar 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRthe URLs remain the sameMar 30 08:04
schestowitz-TRmatey: or top move the mouseMar 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRtechnically rss readers are a bit like botsMar 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRbut gentler and desirable onesMar 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRbecause real humans followMar 30 08:05
schestowitz-TRif there are updats detectedMar 30 08:05
techrights-news"The only problem is that this internal drive has just 667.2GB of usable space, which is limited for people who want to install more than a few titles." https://www.addictivetips.com/gaming/how-to-increase-your-ps5-storage-space/Mar 30 08:06
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mateythe tea is cajun style todayMar 30 08:08
mateywhen i got back to the pan it was down to the leaves with just a bit of simmering moistureMar 30 08:09
mateyi added water and let it boil for another minute Mar 30 08:09
mateyits actually delicious, but it would be a hazard to make it this way deliberatelyMar 30 08:09
mateytechnically rss readers are a bit like bots <- of course they areMar 30 08:11
mateyand the thing about the web is, corporates bots are goodMar 30 08:11
mateyand user bots are badMar 30 08:11
mateybecause hooray for google, boo for usersMar 30 08:11
mateygoogle doesnt have to look at adsMar 30 08:11
mateyusers doMar 30 08:11
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darwinbusiness managers used to be seeking software developers/engineers who were 'ninjas/rockstars' but after the creation of the ninja build tool and rockstar programming language did that trend stop?Mar 30 08:13
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matey<darwin> business managers used to be seeking software developers/engineers who were 'ninjas/rockstars' but after the creation of the ninja build tool and rockstar programming language did that trend stop? <- hehMar 30 08:14
techrights-newsThose are terrible. Get a real mousing device. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-fixes-chromebook-touchpad-not-working/Mar 30 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 13 Fixes for Chromebook Touchpad Not Working - Make Tech EasierMar 30 08:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 30 08:15
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techrights-newsWait, WHAT? "Face ID with Masks" is a FEATURE?? https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/what-new-features-are-available-in-ios-15-4/Mar 30 08:17
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techrights-news"This extension revolutionizes how PSOs can be managed by the application, and itโ€™s the first step towards solving the dreaded stuttering that zink suffers from when attempting to play any sort of game." https://www.supergoodcode.com/release-the-kraken/Mar 30 08:20
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techrights-news"Yes, it was 'robwoj44' who internationalized gpptp, but that was version 0.2. Much later, 'jafadmin' created version 2.0, without the internationalization. I have been using 2.0 in EasyOS." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/gpptp-internationalized-now-version-21.htmlMar 30 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | gpptp internationalized, now version 2.1Mar 30 08:21
techrights-news"It's been hard to write in this space lately because I've been incredibly worn down, depressed, and feeling like I need to quit working for the non-profit I'm running." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-03-29-depressed.gmiMar 30 08:23
techrights-news"Iโ€™ve been busy since I became unemployed. Not strictly hour by hour, but most days have been rather active. And mostly in pleasant ways." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-29-a-tranquil-exhaustion.gmiMar 30 08:24
techrights-news"Bacardi55 pointed out to me the Usenet. I was touched by the second illiteracy. I used Usenet in the '90s. And now I haven't even know how to go about it. Ancient knowledge, what are the NNTP server addresses now?!" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmiMar 30 08:25
mateythis incidentally, is the main reason i consider fdl non-free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_FDL#Burdens_when_printingMar 30 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GNU Free Documentation License - WikipediaMar 30 08:28
mateythe article gives a more thorough treatment of the drawbacks than i ever couldMar 30 08:29
mateyim sure you can mirror it somewhere if you want toMar 30 08:30
mateycopy, get permission, uploadMar 30 08:31
mateyits not a very large websiteMar 30 08:31
mateyobviously the irc cannot be mirrored, being dynamic by natureMar 30 08:31
SomeH4x0rit is ~ 25 GB, though it has a copy of itself inside, so it is only a half-size actuallyMar 30 08:31
mateyand if the hosting is not tied to the registrar, you can just serve it over onion insteadMar 30 08:32
mateywth is 12.5 gb? ive only seen a few filesMar 30 08:32
mateyis there video there or something?Mar 30 08:32
SomeH4x0rmost of the large files is the music directory and nt5src.7z, I thinkMar 30 08:32
matey/me has seen a front page, a pdf, a few jpgsMar 30 08:32
mateynt5src ehMar 30 08:33
matey/me thinks of reactosMar 30 08:33
matey(that wouldnt be 12gb)Mar 30 08:33
matey(let alone compressed)Mar 30 08:34
SomeH4x0ranyway, http://s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion/misc/www.executingreality.com_Christopher_Csatlos_01.18.22_07:47:55.7z is a full copy of the website taken recentlyMar 30 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion/misc/www.executingreality.com_Christopher_Csatlos_01.18.22_07:47:55.7z )Mar 30 08:34
mateyis the hosting tied to the registrar?Mar 30 08:34
SomeH4x0ryes iiuc, but the VPS service expires, not the domain nameMar 30 08:35
mateyoh okMar 30 08:35
SomeH4x0ralso he told me not to share the dashboard password to anyone if he disappearsMar 30 08:35
mateythats probably good adviceMar 30 08:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 30 08:39
mateythis i was not aware of: thomas bushnell raised objections to the gnu fdlMar 30 08:41
mateyhe was a hurd maintainerMar 30 08:41
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bnchsschestowitz: your twitter got suspended for covid-19 misinformation because usually hatred for bill gates is associated with anti-vaxxersMar 30 08:45
bnchscommonly*Mar 30 08:46
mateytwitter was unable to suspend daemonfc because of a race conditionMar 30 08:47
mateyyes its a double entendreMar 30 08:47
mateybut the idea is that they couldnt figure out which thing was the most offensive, so the algorithm was overwhelmed by choices Mar 30 08:48
bnchsyeahMar 30 08:48
mateysimilarly, tay didnt stop spewing hatred until microsoft shut it downMar 30 08:49
SomeH4x0rbans need to be evadedMar 30 08:50
bnchsmatey: microsoft's faultMar 30 08:50
bnchstay became an actual naziMar 30 08:50
mateyheheheMar 30 08:50
bnchsand racistMar 30 08:50
mateygood thing they shut it down before ibm thought of hiringMar 30 08:50
bnchsmaybe part 4chan partMar 30 08:50
bnchspart 4chan fault*Mar 30 08:51
mateymaybe Mar 30 08:51
mateyi dont know, i think they made an extremely useful point about machine learning, even if that wasnt the intentionMar 30 08:51
bnchsit learns off of tweetsMar 30 08:51
mateya point that is extremely relevant to systems like compas which are actually in productionMar 30 08:52
mateyand unlike tay are actually ruining peoples livesMar 30 08:52
bnchshow?Mar 30 08:52
mateyare you familiar with compas?Mar 30 08:53
mateyits meant to assist judges in sentencingMar 30 08:53
bnchsohMar 30 08:53
mateybut like so much tech they end up letting the computer do the job for themMar 30 08:53
matey"computer says no"Mar 30 08:53
bnchswhat if compas has a backdoorMar 30 08:53
mateythe frontdoor is pretty badMar 30 08:54
mateybut thats a fair pointMar 30 08:54
mateythe frontdoor is bias and bad design Mar 30 08:54
bnchsmake compas say not guiltyMar 30 08:54
mateynot unlike tayMar 30 08:54
mateythe problem with compas is sort of the opposite of what dfc complains aboutMar 30 08:54
mateyit amplifies biased and racist decision makingMar 30 08:55
bnchsjust like tayMar 30 08:55
mateyyes, i wasnt making that part upMar 30 08:55
bnchsor any other AIMar 30 08:55
mateypotentially yesMar 30 08:55
mateyai can maximise anything in human decision makingMar 30 08:55
mateyincluding stupidity and hatredMar 30 08:56
bnchsi mean theres ai photo taggers that tagged black people as "gorilla"Mar 30 08:56
mateybut it also encourages superficiality, which is the mechanism behind bigotryMar 30 08:56
mateyi mean theres ai photo taggers that tagged <- lovelyMar 30 08:56
bnchsit would be very hard to train AI how to differentiate between gorilla and black peopleMar 30 08:58
mateyim not convincedMar 30 08:58
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–โ–…โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ƒโ–ƒโ–„โ–ƒโ–‚โ–„โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–ƒโ–โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–โ–ƒโ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–‡โ–…โ–‚โ–„โ– avg(k/sec) 40.95 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–ƒโ–โ–…โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–„โ–ƒโ–โ– avg(k/sec) 73.81โ–• swarm size (avg): 405.43  โŸฒMar 30 08:59
mateyi think the easiest way to get to that point is insuffiicent trainingMar 30 08:59
bnchsyeahMar 30 09:00
bnchspoor training dataMar 30 09:00
mateyif you train it mostly with data of white people, and throw in a few others, it might stupidly lump the exceptions togetherMar 30 09:00
mateythey added a sort of debugger to one machine learning platformMar 30 09:00
mateyto see how it could tell a dog from a wolfMar 30 09:01
mateyand they had it show the part of the image it was using in its decision makingMar 30 09:01
mateyturned out the algorithm had latched onto the idea that snow around the animal meant wolfMar 30 09:01
mateyso it was actually making the decision based on the backgrond, not even the foregroundMar 30 09:01
mateythere needs to be more research like thatMar 30 09:02
mateyto show the limitations of machine learningMar 30 09:02
bnchseven thenMar 30 09:02
bnchsjust use your brainMar 30 09:02
mateyof course, this assumes such research wont be fought tooth and nail by companies that are heavily invested in the technologyMar 30 09:02
bnchsyou're not gonna tag like 1000000 imagesMar 30 09:03
bnchsjust use your brain and not AIMar 30 09:03
mateytheres still a fallacy that ai will be "more fair" than humansMar 30 09:03
mateyor that it already isMar 30 09:03
mateythis fallacy goes back decadesMar 30 09:03
bnchsyeah sureMar 30 09:03
mateyand can be refuted (even today) with four lettersMar 30 09:03
bnchsteach the ai to be biasedMar 30 09:03
mateygigoMar 30 09:04
bnchsit becomes biasedMar 30 09:04
mateyexactlyMar 30 09:04
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mateyif the dog/wolf machine had been trained with more images of wolves in grass or laying around in a dog bedMar 30 09:05
mateymaybe it wouldnt have Mar 30 09:05
mateythen again if theres a wolf in a dog bed, thats not typical at allMar 30 09:05
mateyso if you want ai to be accurateMar 30 09:06
mateyyou have to figure out what data will make it accurate before you even train itMar 30 09:06
mateyyou have to think of so many things the ai is supposed to think of for youMar 30 09:06
mateyotherwise the training will be crapMar 30 09:07
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mateyand down the line lead to big errorsMar 30 09:07
mateylike a dog in snow is a wolfMar 30 09:07
mateyor a wolf laying in bed is grandmaMar 30 09:07
mateythey should call it the little red riding hood problemMar 30 09:07
mateybecause it doesnt understand that grandma doesnt have giant teeth, it wasnt trained for that distinctionMar 30 09:08
mateyif grandma has giant teeth then it could be a wolfMar 30 09:09
bnchsmore like why the fuckMar 30 09:11
bnchswould you edit a wolf as a grandmaMar 30 09:11
bnchsjust to train aiMar 30 09:11
mateythe point is that you wouldntMar 30 09:12
mateybut as a result, the ai wouldnt know the differenceMar 30 09:12
mateyjust like little red riding hoodMar 30 09:13
mateyshe should have taken one step in the door and said "fuck no" and run awayMar 30 09:13
mateyinstead shes like "grandma, what big teeth you have"Mar 30 09:13
matey"thats because im a fucking wolf, n00b"Mar 30 09:13
mateyai is only as good as its trainingMar 30 09:13
mateyand how can you anticipate all these things that its supposed to distinguish?Mar 30 09:14
mateyyou cant, so bias is going to be as bad or worse than a humansMar 30 09:14
mateyhumans are trained with a lifetime of dataMar 30 09:14
mateyai? much lessMar 30 09:14
mateymost real people would know a wolf in a grandma costume at first glanceMar 30 09:14
mateybut not an ai-- its a silly example of a real problemMar 30 09:14
mateyyou could call it the clark kent problem tooMar 30 09:15
mateythough maybe the face recognition would be better trained Mar 30 09:15
mateyand ignore the glasses and suit vs the capeMar 30 09:15
mateyit just depends on the dataMar 30 09:15
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techrights-news"Carrey said Smith โ€œshouldโ€™ve beenโ€ escorted out of the Oscars ceremony after he slapped Rock." https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/Mar 30 09:17
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techrights-news"Roughly $625 million worth of cryptocurrency has been stolen from Ronin, the blockchain underlying popular crypto game Axie Infinity." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001620/sky-mavis-axie-infinity-ronin-blockchain-validation-defi-hack-nftMar 30 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Hack steals $625 million from NFT game Axie Infinityโ€™s Ronin blockchain - The VergeMar 30 09:25
techrights-news"The FTC is also asking a federal court to immediately halt "deceptive advertising" immediately, the agency said in a statement." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/600252-ftc-sues-intuit-over-turbotax-free-filing-ad-campaignMar 30 09:26
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techrights-news<h5><a href="https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ubiquiti-files-case-against-security-blogger-krebs-over-false-accusations.html">Ubiquiti files case against security blogger Krebs over 'false accusations</a></h5>Mar 30 09:26
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mateyim sure theres very little difference between an ai trained with "just enough data" (presumed to be) and a human thats been brainwashedMar 30 09:29
mateyin terms of quality of decision makingMar 30 09:29
mateyjust distinguishing between x or yMar 30 09:29
techrights-news"I am pleased that we found an agreement in principle on a new framework for transatlantic data flows." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-strike-preliminary-deal-to-unlock-transatlantic-data-flows/Mar 30 09:35
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techrights-newsGOOD!! "Facebook owner Meta said on Tuesday it was suspending plans to build a giant data centre in the Netherlands" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/data-center/facebook-owner-meta-puts-plans-to-build-dutch-data-centre-on-ice/90531729Mar 30 09:35
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techrights-news"discovery of numerous effects that are used to make bombs and the menโ€™s movements on social media and the internet" https://cphpost.dk/?p=132761Mar 30 09:41
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mateyi was thinking about one of the failures of the fsf todayMar 30 09:44
mateyor maybe failure is too strong a word, maybe they simply havent managed it yet (this doesnt mean theyre likely to make progress)Mar 30 09:44
mateybut theyve made progress on free drivers, to be sureMar 30 09:45
mateyas long as we are talking about x86Mar 30 09:45
mateyif we take the philosophy (one im mostly sympathetic to and certainly prefer) of the fsf on free driversMar 30 09:45
techrights-news"Fifty countries get more than a tenth of their power from wind and solar sources" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60917445 that's VERY little and probably does not include vehicles, industry etc.Mar 30 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Climate change: Wind and solar reach milestone as demand surges - BBC NewsMar 30 09:46
mateyand you can blame this on oems, i dont mean failure in the same sense as "blame"Mar 30 09:46
mateyjust failure as the opposite of successMar 30 09:46
mateythe fsf is hardly poised to make a lot of progress in terms of various computersMar 30 09:46
mateylike a raspi can be free as long as you attach a second video adapter (usb?) that has a free driver for itMar 30 09:47
techrights-news"Controversial legislation on free speech on English campuses" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/english-free-speech-bill-stalls-ministers-remain-committedMar 30 09:48
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mateyi think the bootloader depends on the modelMar 30 09:48
mateyi could be wrong about this, id love to be. but on x86 its like-- okay, so your wifi isnt free, attach a usb wifi adapter and youre libre nowMar 30 09:48
techrights-news"Emmy-nominated show I hosted for six years for RT America and RT International, has been disappeared from YouTube." https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/Mar 30 09:48
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mateythe more we move from x86, the less sure the future of this approach seems. again, this isnt the fault of the fsf so much as the oemsMar 30 09:49
mateyit seems unlikely to fix itself though, and thats badMar 30 09:49
mateymaybe there will be a breakthroughMar 30 09:49
mateybut its like free computing-- provided most computers are avoidedMar 30 09:49
mateythat seems to be the path weve been on since android devices came outMar 30 09:50
techrights-newsLesson of the story: DO NOT OUTSOURCE to 'free' video hosting. Final lesson: Gulagtube is IMPERIALISM. Repeat that. Gulagtube is IMPERIALISM. https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/Mar 30 09:51
mateyas usual the hardware people seem to know more about this problem than the fsf, but this problem goes back for many years Mar 30 09:51
mateyi dont think the freedom ladder does much about this other than making the problem seem destined to get better-- where better is we all end up on x86 when we are "ready" to be fully freeMar 30 09:51
techrights-news[Old] "Perhaps at this moment you are saying to yourself what the hell has all this got to do with the Academy Awards?" https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/movies/bestpictures/godfather-ar3.htmlMar 30 09:52
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mateyits a very large pothole on the road to freedom-- maybe the kind mincer talked about hungaryMar 30 09:52
mateythe car-nivorous varietyMar 30 09:52
techrights-news"When it came to picking what nationwide organization to join, the leaders of what is now the [SweatshopZone] Labor Union" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/600279-staten-island-amazon-workers-chart-their-own-path-in-union-driveMar 30 09:53
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techrights-news"Solar lights are a popular garden decoration." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/29/you-can-turn-soft-drink-bottles-into-handy-solar-lamps/Mar 30 10:09
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techrights-newsProps to ASUS for marketing repairability as a selling point of their product! โš“ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/props-to-asus-for-marketing:8 ไท‰ Source: rossmanngroupMar 30 10:12
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techrights-newsAttorney General says Right to Repair IS CONSTITUTIONAL: John Deere lie justifies bill ๐Ÿคฃ โš“ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/attorney-general-says-right-to-repair-is:c ไท‰ Source: rossmanngroupral-says-right-to-repair-is:cMar 30 10:13
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techrights-newsWeโ€™re Being Screwed by Mobile Carriers...because of 5G! โš“ https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/carrier-service:9 ไท‰ Source: RobBraxmanTechMar 30 10:13
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techrights-newsUS culture sinking to new lows https://boingboing.net/2022/03/29/watch-sickened-jim-carrey-has-strong-reaction-to-will-smiths-slap-at-the-oscars.htmlMar 30 10:14
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schestowitz-TR[09:51] <matey> as usual the hardware people seem to know more about this problem than the fsf, but this problem goes back for many years Mar 30 10:17
schestowitz-TRsometimes I wonder...Mar 30 10:17
schestowitz-TRIf I submitted a talk (I never submit talks in CfP BTW)Mar 30 10:17
schestowitz-TRand it was titled Mar 30 10:17
schestowitz-TRthe conflict between free speech and free software regulated for corporate complianceMar 30 10:18
schestowitz-TRwhat would be the outcome?Mar 30 10:18
schestowitz-TRif they say no, they can be criticisedMar 30 10:18
schestowitz-TRif they say yes,Mar 30 10:18
schestowitz-TRsome people would throw their hands in the air and protestMar 30 10:18
schestowitz-TRso the subject becomes a sacred cowMar 30 10:18
mateyfree software - free speech = softwareMar 30 10:19
schestowitz-TRfree speech + software = clownMar 30 10:19
schestowitz-TRlike gulagtubeMar 30 10:19
schestowitz-TR https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/Mar 30 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hedges: On Being Disappeared โ€“ scheerpost.comMar 30 10:20
mateyi dont think clown can be one the right side of that equation if free speech is on the left and not being subtractedMar 30 10:20
mateyclown = censorship * (!0)Mar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRclown = conditional, temporary 'free'Mar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRlike freenodeMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRnow known as libera.chatMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRit's liberaMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRif we agree with youMar 30 10:21
mateyalmost any speech is temporrarily freeMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRor in freenodeMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRit's about freedomMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRjust don't be republican or somethingMar 30 10:21
schestowitz-TRand it's temporaryMar 30 10:22
mateyi mean you can go right up to putin and say "imma kill you right now motherfucker" and youll be free until the bullets hitMar 30 10:22
schestowitz-TRone day the whole thing collapses like identi.ca and joindiapora.comMar 30 10:22
mateymost censorship takes AT LEAST seconds to go into effect-- sometimes yearsMar 30 10:23
techrights-newsCapitalism's endgame https://robertreich.org/post/680086256324165632Mar 30 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (The Rise of the Centibillionaires! The word...)Mar 30 10:23
mateyalso im not arguing that threatening someone is free speechMar 30 10:23
mateyonly that there is basically zero censorship for at least seconds, in most instancesMar 30 10:23
techrights-newsDie, poor people https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-uninsured/ see https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/Mar 30 10:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Covid-19 Coverage for the Uninsured Is Ending | The NationMar 30 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The NationMar 30 10:24
mateyif its completely automatic and electronic, less than seconds-- but most censorship takes longer to go into effectMar 30 10:24
schestowitz-TRmeanwhile, oscars became jerry springer showMar 30 10:24
mateyi stopped paying attention when milk lost best pictureMar 30 10:25
mateythat was a while agoMar 30 10:25
schestowitzhttps://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/Mar 30 10:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jim Carrey Slams Hollywood for Will Smith Standing Ovation After Slap - VarietyMar 30 10:25
mateyjim carrey gets weirder all the timeMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRcarrey is canadian, right (still)Mar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRalso, I agree with himMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRsome people get away with violenceMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRbecause they're "the good guys"Mar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRrememberMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRmalware has a new nameMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TR"protestware"Mar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRmalware is GOODMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRstuxnet goodMar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TRmalware from Microsoft?Mar 30 10:26
schestowitz-TR"open source"Mar 30 10:27
schestowitz-TRdon't blame MicrosoftMar 30 10:27
schestowitz-TRand it's protest... "for the lols"Mar 30 10:27
schestowitz-TRSmith just assaulted him "for the lols"Mar 30 10:27
schestowitz-TRyou know what we saw about countries where comedians are assaulted for "offence"Mar 30 10:27
schestowitz-TRa lot of humour is based on offenseMar 30 10:28
schestowitz-TRmind offenceMar 30 10:28
schestowitz-TRwhenn harry wet sallyMar 30 10:28
mateyoh wowMar 30 10:29
mateythis is just a complete clusterfuck from every single angleMar 30 10:29
techrights-newsAnd it's not inflation. It's just theft. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/us-oil-companies-set-reap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraineMar 30 10:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on UkraineMar 30 10:29
mateythis would be less than 10% of what it now isMar 30 10:29
mateyif there were any adults left on the planetMar 30 10:29
mateyfirst of all, theres zero need for chris rock to call the police on another celebrity slapping him. zero. which he didnt do. but carrey is silly.Mar 30 10:30
techrights-newsUSSA https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/biden-wants-give-163-times-more-us-military-global-pandemic-responseMar 30 10:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Biden Wants to Give 163 Times More to US Military Than to Global Pandemic ResponseMar 30 10:31
mateysecond, a standing ovation is just as ridiculousMar 30 10:31
mateythird, there was no need from that from chris rock either... but...Mar 30 10:31
mateyhes a comedian that makes a lot of offensive jokesMar 30 10:31
mateythats a givenMar 30 10:31
mateythere have been entire plotlines centred around the offensiveness of quoting (specifically) chris rockMar 30 10:32
schestowitz-TRyes, mild offenseMar 30 10:32
mateyso overreacting to that is also sillyMar 30 10:32
schestowitz-TRtypo earlier ("mind")Mar 30 10:32
schestowitz-TRit's getting hard to be funnyMar 30 10:32
schestowitz-TRas someone might get offendedMar 30 10:32
mateyand i dont know if the slap from smith was really angry or just a jokeMar 30 10:32
mateyeither way there was no need for police (and they werent called) Mar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRremember what jim does for a livingMar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRhe too makes jokesMar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRdid for decadesMar 30 10:33
mateyyeah but people become less funny when they become a daddy Mar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRso unlike smith, who was never funny (not even in fresh prince), he sees this as a bad directionMar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRjerry seinfeld said the sameMar 30 10:33
mateyfor example, dana carvey lost about 95% of his edgeMar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRtheir occupation is being blacklistedMar 30 10:33
schestowitz-TRoh, oopsMar 30 10:34
schestowitz-TRI said blacklistedMar 30 10:34
mateyso unlike smith, who was never funny <- oh i love smithMar 30 10:34
mateythough hes not much of a comedian its trueMar 30 10:34
schestowitz-TRdon't tell cosmo kramer.... but his tirade was tuly disgusting and now humourMar 30 10:34
mateyoh yeah that was just a pointless racist tiradeMar 30 10:34
mateyhe just flipped the fuck out and started yelling about black peopleMar 30 10:34
matey<schestowitz-TR> remember what jim does for a living <- does he still do anything for a living?Mar 30 10:35
schestowitz-TRnot quiteMar 30 10:35
schestowitz-TRhe was provoked by someone in the audienceMar 30 10:35
schestowitz-TRnot that it makes it OKMar 30 10:36
schestowitz-TRthe context matters a littleMar 30 10:36
mateycontext always mattersMar 30 10:36
mateywithout context there is no meaningMar 30 10:36
schestowitz-TR[10:35] <matey> <schestowitz-TR> remember what jim does for a living <- does he still do anything for a living?Mar 30 10:36
schestowitz-TRSNLMar 30 10:36
mateydoes he write for them or something?Mar 30 10:36
mateyi havent followed his career in a decade Mar 30 10:36
schestowitz-TRwait..Mar 30 10:37
mateytake your timeMar 30 10:37
schestowitz-TRhe does politicsMar 30 10:37
matey"""politics""" ?Mar 30 10:37
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsije1KetVwMar 30 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wsije1KetVwMar 30 10:37
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schestowitzjim can become target og violent trump fansMar 30 10:37
mateyunless it was something really painful for jada, smith should have just laughedMar 30 10:39
schestowitz-TRlook at rick gervaisMar 30 10:40
mateyi dated someone years ago who shaved her head later (african, as in born and grew up there, so this is more common in terms of fashion) but she looked great without hairMar 30 10:40
schestowitz-TRhe 'killed'Mar 30 10:40
mateythere was a bald woman in the star trek film who everyone (including sulu) was desperately attracted toMar 30 10:41
SomeH4x0rI see nicknames, not facesMar 30 10:41
schestowitzhttps://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ricky-gervais-will-smith-oscars-alopecia-b2045788.htmlMar 30 10:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Ricky Gervais appears to comment on Will Smith Oscars drama as he shares The Office joke about alopecia | The IndependentMar 30 10:41
mateyand of course, the only thing unattractive about sinead is shes nutsMar 30 10:41
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SomeH4x0rhiMar 30 10:42
schestowitzhttps://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/ricky-gervais-fires-up-at-oscars-hypocrisy/news-story/e211377e69ddb1b42fe2a44957a8747fMar 30 10:42
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SomeH4x0rClownflare KiwiIRC evil!Mar 30 10:42
BTcoInyou are evilMar 30 10:42
matey <schestowitz-TR> look at rick gervais <- omg jokes about the holocaust that made seinfeld look tame, and hes not even jewishMar 30 10:42
mateygervais must have a god or something looking out for him, i dont know how he gets away with itMar 30 10:42
SomeH4x0rmaybe I am tooMar 30 10:42
BTcoInwhat jokes?Mar 30 10:43
BTcoInany good one?Mar 30 10:43
mateyno fucking way am i going to try to repeat hereMar 30 10:43
schestowitzhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10662937/Ricky-Gervais-pokes-fun-Smiths-Oscars-meltdown-shares-alopecia-joke-Office.htmlMar 30 10:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Ricky Gervais pokes fun at Will Smith's Oscars meltdown as he shares alopecia joke from The Office | Daily Mail OnlineMar 30 10:43
BTcoInwhy?Mar 30 10:43
BTcoInare you racist?Mar 30 10:43
mateywhat?Mar 30 10:43
schestowitzhttps://www.nme.com/news/film/ricky-gervais-reckons-his-golden-globes-speech-ruined-his-oscars-chances-2928130Mar 30 10:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | Ricky Gervais thinks his Golden Globes speech ruined his Oscars chancesMar 30 10:43
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc9q_ddBMhIMar 30 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gc9q_ddBMhIMar 30 10:43
mateyi dont followMar 30 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais Reveals How He Would've Opened The Oscars, Reacts To Will Smith Slapping Chris Rock - InvidiousMar 30 10:43
BTcoIncause you are dumbMar 30 10:44
mateynew troll, yayMar 30 10:44
schestowitz-TR[10:41] <matey> and of course, the only thing unattractive about sinead is shes nutsMar 30 10:44
BTcoInits the fuy from the office thingMar 30 10:44
schestowitz-TRsome people get attention this wayMar 30 10:44
schestowitz-TRthey need the limelightMar 30 10:44
mateyi think shes legitimately nutsMar 30 10:44
schestowitz-TRto avoid going on narcoticsMar 30 10:44
schestowitz-TRshave headMar 30 10:44
schestowitz-TRconvert to islamMar 30 10:44
BTcoInand people like you give it to thenMar 30 10:45
schestowitz-TRname the most crazy idea... justDoIt(r)Mar 30 10:45
BTcoInhow dumb ca you be?Mar 30 10:45
schestowitz-TRRicky Gervais I did that several times I thinkMar 30 10:45
schestowitz-TRthere used to be a medley of all the Ricky Gervais bitsMar 30 10:45
schestowitz-TRit was so offensive and hilariousMar 30 10:45
mateygervais is definitely a comedy geniusMar 30 10:45
schestowitz-TRand they got shots of the faces of folks he spoke aboutMar 30 10:45
mateyon the verge of being a comedy terroristMar 30 10:46
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRgMar 30 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRgMar 30 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes 2020 - All of his bits chained - InvidiousMar 30 10:46
BTcoIna comedy terrorist ?^LOL thats a good oneMar 30 10:47
BTcoInwhy is not funny at all?Mar 30 10:47
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4Mar 30 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4Mar 30 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais โ€“ Golden Globes 2020 (Uncensored, HD) - InvidiousMar 30 10:47
mateycarlin used to say that his occupation was originally called "fool"Mar 30 10:47
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ATl5X3EIEMar 30 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v5ATl5X3EIEMar 30 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | All of Ricky Gervais Golden Globe Roast Compilation 2010 - 2020 - InvidiousMar 30 10:47
schestowitzvery funnyMar 30 10:47
mateythe court jester was the one person who could openly talk shit about the king to his face and he might not be executedMar 30 10:47
schestowitz-TRmatey: JESTERMar 30 10:47
schestowitz-TRSURELY YOU JESTMar 30 10:47
BTcoInstop spamming yt videosMar 30 10:47
BTcoIndo you work at google?Mar 30 10:48
schestowitz-TRanyway, me back to linksMar 30 10:48
schestowitz-TRBTcoIn: the people who UPLOAD there mightMar 30 10:48
schestowitz-TRI don't upload thereMar 30 10:48
schestowitz-TRas it gives them a monopoly on "content"Mar 30 10:48
techrights-newsโ€˜Refusing to kill people isnโ€™t a crimeโ€™ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/30/refusing-to-kill-people-isn-t-a-crimeMar 30 10:49
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BTcoIntic gervais is right on the moneyMar 30 10:49
techrights-newsBrave Journalists... https://meduza.io/en/slides/ukraine-s-10-point-planMar 30 10:49
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BTcoInnvm racisme try rich poor discrimination insteadMar 30 10:49
BTcoInor educated / uneducatedMar 30 10:50
BTcoInor beutifull / ugllyMar 30 10:50
techrights-newsThey should also go after Microsoft executives for their massive crimes (much worse) https://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaignMar 30 10:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | FTC Sues to Stop โ€œDeceptiveโ€ TurboTax โ€œFreeโ€ Ad Campaign โ€” ProPublicaMar 30 10:51
BTcoInwho needs racisme anymoreMar 30 10:51
mateythe ovation wasnt even for the slap, it was for winning best actorMar 30 10:51
mateycarrey should stick to comedy, its what hes good atMar 30 10:52
techrights-newsproprietary garbage: How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment ไท‰ Source: propublicaMar 30 10:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment โ€” ProPublicaMar 30 10:52
mateyhes about as good at politics as michael jordan was at baseballMar 30 10:53
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schestowitz-TRmatey: he did biden at snlMar 30 10:54
schestowitz-TRI put a link earlierMar 30 10:54
schestowitz-TRi always found him funnyMar 30 10:54
schestowitz-TR"smoooooookeeeeen!!!"Mar 30 10:54
mateyhes funnyMar 30 10:54
mateyhes a good actorMar 30 10:54
mateyhes not so great at what hes doing nowMar 30 10:54
schestowitz-TRhalle berry sobbedMar 30 10:55
schestowitz-TRwill smith slappedMar 30 10:55
schestowitz-TRsmith did many other controversial thingsaMar 30 10:55
mateywhyyyyMar 30 10:55
schestowitz-TRand spread misinformationMar 30 10:55
schestowitz-TRI've lost countMar 30 10:55
mateyhe did a stint with scientology i thinkMar 30 10:56
mateybut i dont think he joined-joinedMar 30 10:56
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techrights-news"One of the central โ€œjustificationsโ€ for copyright is that it is indispensable if creativity is to be viable. Without it, we are assured, artists would starve." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/copyright-is-indispensable-for-artists-they-say-but-for-all-artists-or-just-certain-kindsMar 30 10:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copyright Is Indispensable For Artists, They Say; But For All Artists, Or Just Certain Kinds? | TechdirtMar 30 10:56
mateyi think he promoted them briefly, so they kept singing the theme to fresh prince at the chanology protestsMar 30 10:56
schestowitz-TRjust to be clear, this is on topicMar 30 10:57
mateyroflMar 30 10:57
schestowitz-TRbecause it relates to free speechMar 30 10:57
schestowitz-TRand how in freesw it's becoming hard to express dissentMar 30 10:57
mateyi dont disagreeMar 30 10:57
schestowitz-TRthis whole "safe space" thingMar 30 10:57
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schestowitz-TRlike RMS interrupting is "assault" almost...Mar 30 10:57
schestowitz-TRRMS never slapped anyoneMar 30 10:58
schestowitz-TRwell maybe not in publicMar 30 10:58
mateyi was happy (though mixed feelings) to see rms speaking at lp even while asking questionsMar 30 10:58
schestowitz-TRhe has a talk coming upMar 30 10:58
mateyoh im counting the daysMar 30 10:58
schestowitz-TRi think fsf is trying to quiet down the people who said he isn't talking this yearMar 30 10:59
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mateyits the biggest thing on my calendarMar 30 10:59
mateyi think fsf is trying to quiet down the people who said he isn't talking this year <- thats a reasonable assessmentMar 30 10:59
mateyi dont know if its true, but its reasonable speculation (and could be true)Mar 30 10:59
mateyit could have been already plannedMar 30 10:59
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mateyof course in your article you put "so he is talking every year, either at lp or close to it"Mar 30 11:00
mateysomething like that, i can find the exact wording but since im sure youre familiar...Mar 30 11:00
schestowitzmatey: http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/richard-stallman-libreplanet/Mar 30 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF Announces Post-LibrePlanet Speech by Richard Stallman | TechrightsMar 30 11:01
schestowitzsome people from ukraine asked alsoMar 30 11:01
mateyim eager to see what he says in aprilMar 30 11:01
mateybut im going in with low expectationsMar 30 11:01
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/01/rms-libreplanet-enigma/Mar 30 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman and LibrePlanet | TechrightsMar 30 11:01
schestowitzsame day we published this they announced the new ED of FSFMar 30 11:01
schestowitzwhich they had chosen last year alreadyMar 30 11:01
mateybeing wrong wouldnt bother me-- i think i was mostly (perhaps almost entirely) wrong about the gerwitz talkMar 30 11:01
mateyim gratefulMar 30 11:01
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schestowitzzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/Mar 30 11:02
matey<schestowitz> same day we published this they announced the new ED of FSF <- im calling it a coincidenceMar 30 11:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/Mar 30 11:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/01/libreplanet-2022-without-rms/Mar 30 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) โ€˜Censoredโ€™ But Not Ignored | TechrightsMar 30 11:02
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schestowitzmatey: yes, likely a coincidenceMar 30 11:02
schestowitzby defaultMar 30 11:02
mateybut you never knowMar 30 11:02
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mateythey finally added cc0 to the gpl compatible list shortly after i bothered them about itMar 30 11:03
mateyand i "bothered" them nicely/cordiallyMar 30 11:03
mateyill never know if the two had anything to do with each other. its a known fact they were already working on it (for a long time)Mar 30 11:03
mateythen karl fogel fucked up the osi side of itMar 30 11:04
mateymaking special pleading arguments AGAINST cc0Mar 30 11:04
mateywhich were just stupid. to cancel cc0 from osi they had to hold it to a higher standard than other gpl-compatible licensesMar 30 11:04
mateycomplete sabotage-- probably not deliberate, but very stupidMar 30 11:04
mateyso only "sabotage" in terms of bungling, not "real" sabotageMar 30 11:05
techrights-news"In Wisconsin, the stateโ€™s top court says [PDF] cops donโ€™t need to worry too much about suppressed evidence" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/wisconsin-supreme-court-sees-nothing-wrong-with-cops-acquiring-evidence-a-court-had-already-suppressed/Mar 30 11:05
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mateyso cc0 is public domain, in every senseMar 30 11:05
mateybut not open source.Mar 30 11:05
mateyits also gpl compatibleMar 30 11:06
mateybut not open sourceMar 30 11:06
techrights-newsGrifters (thieves) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/elon-musks-starlink-gets-even-more-expensive/Mar 30 11:06
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mateyand this was a long time ago, allegedly before osi became ridiculous (but it was always ridiculous)Mar 30 11:06
mateyall osi really did was fuck finland out of a swath of free software projects being able to say they were using an osi-approved open source lienseMar 30 11:07
mateywhile spreading fud that was legally and factually bunk.Mar 30 11:07
mateybut it also meant that cc0 was a line that (arbitrarily, without any good reason) divided free software and open source licensing. there were worse examples of this.Mar 30 11:08
mateythere was some bs nasa license that fsf correctly rejected and osi welcomed with open arms, being a bunch of toolsMar 30 11:09
mateyit wasnt a free license.Mar 30 11:09
mateybut osi has their own reality, soMar 30 11:09
schestowitz-TRi welcomed with open rmsMar 30 11:10
schestowitz-TRopen....Mar 30 11:10
mateyfree+libre rmsMar 30 11:10
mateystill not sure wtf / -> + happenedMar 30 11:10
schestowitz-TRrms fatrher of the github movementMar 30 11:11
mateythats got to be the single most pedantic moment in the history of free softwareMar 30 11:11
mateythe github movement!Mar 30 11:11
mateyinspired by the ibm movementMar 30 11:11
schestowitz-TRlolMar 30 11:11
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft, make a M.O.V.E.Mar 30 11:12
schestowitz-TRI was movedMar 30 11:12
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombingMar 30 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1985 MOVE bombing - WikipediaMar 30 11:13
mateyyes microsoft is an ororborus movementMar 30 11:13
BTcoInand googleMar 30 11:13
mateya turd that eats itself, symbolic of a company that will forever be shitMar 30 11:13
BTcoInthats googleMar 30 11:13
mateyoh yes MOVEMar 30 11:13
mateyi read about that onceMar 30 11:14
XRevan86https://youtu.be/ApyXgB9I2f8 (English subtitles)Mar 30 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ApyXgB9I2f8Mar 30 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | ะ—ะฐั‡ะตะผ ะฟั€ะพะฟะฐะณะฐะฝะดะฐ ะทะฐัั‚ะฐะฒะปัะตั‚ ั€ะพััะธัะฝ ะฝะตะฝะฐะฒะธะดะตั‚ัŒ ัƒะบั€ะฐะธะฝั†ะตะฒ (English subs) / @ะœะฐะบัะธะผ ะšะฐั† - InvidiousMar 30 11:14
XRevan86"Why [Russian] propaganda is making Russians hate Ukrainians"Mar 30 11:14
mateyhow many russians (ballpark percentage) are actually being fooled by this shit?Mar 30 11:15
mateyis it half? 90%? Mar 30 11:15
XRevan86matey: Unknown.Mar 30 11:15
techrights-newsBoycottt Gulagtube https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/digitally-disappeared-youtube-has-deleted-six-years-my-showMar 30 11:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Digitally Disappeared: YouTube Has Deleted Six Years of My Show | Chris HedgesMar 30 11:15
mateyof courseMar 30 11:15
mateywe could only guess, any poll would be riggedMar 30 11:15
mateyone way to guess would be to talk to a bunch of russians, ASSUME theyre all real and not gov keyboard warriorsMar 30 11:16
mateyand extrapolate (with varying reliability) from thereMar 30 11:16
XRevan86matey: Even unrigged polls are deeply flawed because they can't distinguish people who just don't answer polls and people who fear answering the poll honestly.Mar 30 11:16
mateyfor example, i dont know any russian speakers who approve of putlerMar 30 11:16
mateybut i think most ukranians speak russian so thats tells me very littleMar 30 11:17
mateyi might simply not know any russians Mar 30 11:17
XRevan86matey: At least one.Mar 30 11:17
mateyfair enoughMar 30 11:17
mateyi suppose reactos is keeping quiet about this?Mar 30 11:17
mateyor do they support ukr or somethingMar 30 11:18
mateyi know they have major russian contributorsMar 30 11:18
BTcoInyou dont sign online petitions?Mar 30 11:18
mateyonline petitions rarely accomplish anythingMar 30 11:18
mateyive signed one in a decadeMar 30 11:18
BTcoInthey accomplished brexitMar 30 11:18
mateyand it didnt even takeMar 30 11:18
schestowitz-TRthey make lists of peopleMar 30 11:18
schestowitz-TRlike the anti-RMS lettersMar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TRthese lists can become a liability to signersMar 30 11:19
matey they accomplished brexit <- as i said,  online petitions rarely accomplish anythingMar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TRand assets to intel agenciesMar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TRthat's partly what social control media doesMar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TRit makes lists of peopleMar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TRand classifies themMar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TRlike "self-checkout"Mar 30 11:19
schestowitz-TR"here," said the spies, "the interface works like this.... start typing family member and friends from elementary school"Mar 30 11:20
XRevan86matey: I don't have any insights into ReactOS, it's largely unimportant to me.Mar 30 11:20
mateyXRevan86 <- same here, just curiousMar 30 11:20
schestowitz-TR"we'll give you "likes" to wank over..."Mar 30 11:20
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mateycan hardly blame you for being as uninformed about them as i amMar 30 11:20
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: we have one reactos dev hereMar 30 11:21
schestowitz-TRwho said they'd welcome putin with flowers if or when he invades serbiaMar 30 11:21
BTcoInkthis channel is right leanedMar 30 11:21
mateyroflMar 30 11:21
XRevan86Skimming through the website, it doesn't look like they've made any statement in any direction.Mar 30 11:21
mateythis channel definitely leans left to the earth itselfMar 30 11:22
schestowitz-TROS News didMar 30 11:22
mateybut the earth is a bit wobblyMar 30 11:22
schestowitz-TRlots of polish sites didMar 30 11:22
schestowitz-TRand polish projects, distros, dev companiesMar 30 11:22
DaemonFCmjg59_ says that the GPLv3 failed because it either forced companies to disarm or write their own software (which is usually too incompetent to even work at all, such as Apple SMBX) and face ridicule by people who need it to work, who will be forced to flee to something that still does work.Mar 30 11:22
DaemonFCI'd say it's a success either way.Mar 30 11:22
DaemonFCApple losing access to Free Software doesn't hurt us, only them.Mar 30 11:23
mateyid mostly agreeMar 30 11:23
techrights-newsTheft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/consumers-pay-oil-ceos-refuse-testify-congress-about-soaring-pricesMar 30 11:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As Consumers Pay, Oil CEOs Refuse to Testify to Congress About Soaring PricesMar 30 11:23
mateyApple losing access to Free Software doesn't hurt us, only them. <-Mar 30 11:23
DaemonFCThe list of bugs in SMBX alone goes on and on. It is clearly not a replacement for Samba. It's designed so it looks like the Mac can still use SMB/CIFS.Mar 30 11:23
DaemonFCBut then it just goes ahead and has a stroke when you try it.Mar 30 11:24
mateysmbsMar 30 11:24
techrights-newsQuit calling fakecoins "crypto". Crypto has nothing to do with that scam. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/climate-groups-say-planetary-impacts-crypto-mining-could-be-reduced-99Mar 30 11:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Climate Groups Say Planetary Impacts of Crypto Mining Could Be Reduced by 99%Mar 30 11:24
DaemonFC"Entire OS freezes because you tried to access a remote share with file thumbnails turned on." This is nice.Mar 30 11:25
mateysounds like a windows bugMar 30 11:25
matey"it just works"Mar 30 11:25
DaemonFC"Try to use a modern version of SMB/CIFS and kernel panic."Mar 30 11:25
mateysmbstemdMar 30 11:25
DaemonFCFalls back to SMBv1, and Samba removes SMBv1 so the Mac cannot communicate with it.Mar 30 11:25
mateyhehMar 30 11:25
DaemonFCSamba: RAISE COMMUNICATIONS BARRIER! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!Mar 30 11:26
DaemonFC:)Mar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRapple may be flounderingMar 30 11:26
mateybroguht to you by the board of sfcMar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRbut apple and the media are in spin modeMar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRI wonder how many middle class savers have tied their savings to that bubbleMar 30 11:26
mateyapple may be floundering <- this will make it decidedly non-veganMar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRthey are going to lose everythingMar 30 11:26
DaemonFCThere's only one reason to yank SMBv1 out of Samba.Mar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRthe rich investors have connectionsaMar 30 11:26
DaemonFCAnd that's to harass Mac users.Mar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRinside-tradingMar 30 11:26
DaemonFCObviously, I think it's funnier than hell.Mar 30 11:26
schestowitz-TRthey'll be the first to run awayMar 30 11:26
DaemonFCBecause Samba still works with itself and with Windows.Mar 30 11:26
DaemonFCThose are what matter.Mar 30 11:27
techrights-newsA guide for developers on #HowTo convert XML files to JSON โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163134Mar 30 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide for developers on how to convert XML files to JSON | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:27
techrights-newsUbuntu MATE 22.04 Release Notes โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163135Mar 30 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Release Notes | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:27
techrights-newsโ€™Extension Managerโ€™ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163136Mar 30 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | โ€™Extension Managerโ€™ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:27
techrights-newsAn Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163137Mar 30 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:28
techrights-newsAlmaLinux vs Rocky Linux: Which One to Choose? โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163138Mar 30 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux vs Rocky Linux: Which One to Choose? | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:28
DaemonFCBy ditching old SMBv1 and uncommon extensions, they can force Apple to go back and fix SMBX when Apple was fine with calling what they had "done" -or- the Mac drops SMB support totally and has to stop pretending to be a real operating system on another front.Mar 30 11:28
techrights-news33 Excellent KDE Plasma Widgets (Updated 2022) โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163139Mar 30 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 33 Excellent KDE Plasma Widgets (Updated 2022) | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:28
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, Jim "Buy Lehman Brothers Stock!" Cramer says Apple is fantastic.Mar 30 11:29
techrights-newsThis talk โ€œis titled โ€œDistributing freedom: How package managers empower software users,โ€ and was presented at LibrePlanet 2022 by Sebastian Crane.โ€ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/Mar 30 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | TechrightsMar 30 11:29
mateyeh, it still wasnt a real os before it dropped flash supportMar 30 11:29
mateyone of the best things they ever didMar 30 11:29
mateyfor all the wrong reasons, like everything else they doMar 30 11:29
DaemonFCFlash for Android was pretty terrible.Mar 30 11:29
DaemonFCIt wasn't designed for devices.Mar 30 11:30
mateyit was designed for adobe hegemonyMar 30 11:30
mateyi hated it for the sameMar 30 11:30
mateyhey nice internet you have here, be a shame if we took it over on behalf of a single companyMar 30 11:30
mateyfuck adobeMar 30 11:30
DaemonFCMe when I go digging through an operating system: "Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhge!" *starts throwing shit out*Mar 30 11:30
mateyfuck anything that even looks like adobeMar 30 11:30
DaemonFCMost P2P networks still work.Mar 30 11:31
DaemonFCThe only thing the RIAA lawyers did was plow the road and get rid of the super shitty proprietary clients that harmed the networks.Mar 30 11:31
mateyMe when I go digging through an operating system: "Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhge!" *starts throwing shit out* <- everybody should do thisMar 30 11:31
mateywhats more, every os should facilitate doing itMar 30 11:32
DaemonFCThey blew up Limewire. Gnutella still has Free clients.Mar 30 11:32
matey/me cant believe gnutella gets away with the nameMar 30 11:32
DaemonFCThey blew up the various KAD network clients, but that's still there.Mar 30 11:32
mateybut then again you dont put it on foodMar 30 11:32
mateyat least not in any sense of trademark you dontMar 30 11:33
mateypuppy linux / puppy chow <- totally different trademarks, different holders, different scopes (yes puppy linux is trademarked)Mar 30 11:33
mateykauler holds itMar 30 11:33
schestowitz-TR[11:29] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-TR, Jim "Buy Lehman Brothers Stock!" Cramer says Apple is fantastic.Mar 30 11:33
schestowitz-TRand IBMMar 30 11:33
schestowitz-TRor Red HatMar 30 11:34
DaemonFCThe reason I don't use legacy P2P networks is because the government likes to poison them. They put things like child pornography in there so they can bust people for it later and then everyone gets too scared that the new Spider Man movie is really CP or something.Mar 30 11:34
DaemonFCWhen you use BitTorrent trackers, people can comment on the torrent and say what's truly in it.Mar 30 11:34
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mateythen everyone gets too scared that the new Spider Man movie is really CP or something <- the way hollywood is these days i wouldnt put it past themMar 30 11:34
schestowitz-TRit would cause a scandal if they got caughtMar 30 11:35
DaemonFCThat's why they don't get caught. :)Mar 30 11:36
DaemonFCThere are pirate uploaders that are known never to put viruses and shit in their stuff.Mar 30 11:37
DaemonFCBut there's also people who come along and stuff viruses in it and pretend to be that uploader.Mar 30 11:37
DaemonFCSo you have to be really careful.Mar 30 11:37
mateythere needs to be a trusted list of hashes for pirated filmsMar 30 11:38
mateyi realise how tricky that would be to maintain.Mar 30 11:38
DaemonFCNFTs!Mar 30 11:38
mateyROFLMar 30 11:38
mateyfinally a use for themMar 30 11:38
schestowitz-TRit would not workMar 30 11:38
schestowitz-TRbecause you have derivativesMar 30 11:39
schestowitz-TRthat alter the hashesMar 30 11:39
schestowitz-TResp. to dodge being caught by hollywoodMar 30 11:39
mateyyou wouldnt trust the derivativesMar 30 11:39
mateythe tricky part is maintaining the listMar 30 11:39
mateyi would say its next to impossibleMar 30 11:39
mateybut next to and impossible arent the same thingMar 30 11:39
DaemonFCYes, hello IRS! I would like to pay my NFT taxes. They are tokens that verify that this is the real FitGirl and that the new season of that TV show is NOT a guy fucking a horse....Please see the 8949 from my accountant as to their value. Thank you!Mar 30 11:39
mateyi consider the nft example to be more hilarious than practicalMar 30 11:40
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163140Mar 30 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:40
mateysolving how to pirate films isnt my area of expertise or a priority of mineMar 30 11:40
mateybut it would be niceMar 30 11:41
mateyand it would only solve it long enough for the arms race to continueMar 30 11:42
mateyeither way i wish people would stop supporting hollywood (to the best of their ability)Mar 30 11:42
DaemonFCApple TV's originals have been truly ho hum.Mar 30 11:42
techrights-newsThunderbird 102 is Getting Several Exciting New Features! Here Are 7 of Them http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163137#comment-33235Mar 30 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 | Tux MachinesMar 30 11:42
DaemonFCI haven't seen a single "must watch" thing on there.Mar 30 11:43
matey/me has given up on tvMar 30 11:43
schestowitz-TRsane hereMar 30 11:43
DaemonFCIt's going the way of the music industry.Mar 30 11:43
mateyif it isnt free to watch and trivial to download i do not care.Mar 30 11:43
schestowitz-TR20+ years agoMar 30 11:43
mateyif its got ads i do not care.Mar 30 11:43
schestowitz-TRhollywood is embedded in everythingMar 30 11:43
DaemonFCThey were talking about having AIs write scripts based on what movies grossed the most money.Mar 30 11:43
mateyif it requires special equipment i do not care.Mar 30 11:44
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC said netflix priced doubled in 5 yearsMar 30 11:44
DaemonFCSo sooner or later it really will all be the same, and instead of having blackbusters, they'll have a bunch of retreads competing with each other for the crumbs.Mar 30 11:44
schestowitz-TRI did not checkMar 30 11:44
schestowitz-TRbut I heard they are hoking it AGAINMar 30 11:44
schestowitz-TRwith password sharing as their excusesMar 30 11:44
schestowitz-TRNetflix to DRM SERFS: YOU ARE PIRATES!!!! YOU WILL PAY FOR IT!Mar 30 11:45
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, No, they're hiking it AND doing a trial run of "We caught you sharing passwords and that'll be another $4.".Mar 30 11:45
mateyNO MOVIE FOR YOU!Mar 30 11:45
schestowitz-TRahMar 30 11:45
mateyCOME BACK, ONE YEAR!Mar 30 11:45
schestowitz-TRso you get punished twice for buying from "official" channelsMar 30 11:46
schestowitz-TRsame for software in russiaMar 30 11:46
schestowitz-TRbetter to use WareZ and GameZMar 30 11:46
mateyin putlers russia, netflix watches youMar 30 11:46
schestowitz-TRat least the companies do not shut you out remoatelyMar 30 11:46
schestowitz-TRthose who pay get cutt offMar 30 11:46
schestowitz-TRthose who don't  paint carry onMar 30 11:46
schestowitz-TR*don't payMar 30 11:46
matey/me still thinks putlin is betterMar 30 11:47
schestowitz-TR[11:45] <matey> COME BACK, ONE YEAR!Mar 30 11:47
schestowitz-TRI used to have ALL seinfeld eps on my driveMar 30 11:47
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> those who don't  paint carry onMar 30 11:47
schestowitz-TRthat was ages agoMar 30 11:47
DaemonFCHitler painted, and look what ended up happening to him!Mar 30 11:47
schestowitz-TRso  could watch them like 5-10 times, over the years...Mar 30 11:47
mateyeverybody paints the piperMar 30 11:48
schestowitz-TRseason is 22 or 24 iircMar 30 11:48
schestowitz-TRand episode can be 50mbMar 30 11:48
schestowitz-TR20 mins, coarse Mar 30 11:48
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, There were video tapes capable of 1080p.Mar 30 11:48
mateyseinfeld was like snl, a lot of it was funny the first time and some of it is still really hilariousMar 30 11:48
schestowitz-TRone season, 1gbMar 30 11:48
mateyand a lot of it was like "wtf is this, this is comedy?"Mar 30 11:48
DaemonFCThe reason they didn't go ahead with it was because it would be harder to make the DRM work, and it cost more than producing discs.Mar 30 11:48
DaemonFCAnd there wouldn't be as many patents.Mar 30 11:48
mateybut on average, id say seinfeld was funnier than snlMar 30 11:49
mateymaybeMar 30 11:49
DaemonFCAn analog format with 1080p would therefore be unacceptable.Mar 30 11:49
mateysnl had some entire years (maybe a decade) of being unfunnyMar 30 11:49
schestowitz-TRthe laptop screen was 800pc acrossMar 30 11:49
schestowitz-TRand iirc 640 vertMar 30 11:49
schestowitz-TRso you don't need 1080p or HDMar 30 11:49
schestowitz-TRthis was 20 years ago, I was a poor studentMar 30 11:50
DaemonFCOne of the main reasons I went ahead and bought a DVD player early on was because you could get better results copying to a blank VHS than using a VHS tape as the source.Mar 30 11:50
DaemonFCMacroVision only worked on VCRs with automatic gain control.Mar 30 11:50
schestowitz-TRwho had already given away the TV to a friend's momMar 30 11:50
matey"lorne, we wore out the laugh track" "okay well a new laugh tracks not in the budget, switch to the track of cricket noises"Mar 30 11:50
DaemonFCI had several VCRs without it.Mar 30 11:50
DaemonFCSo I could copy as many tapes as I wanted to.Mar 30 11:50
matey"why do we have a track of cricket noises?"Mar 30 11:51
matey"are you kidding? oh, you werent here in 1993"Mar 30 11:51
DaemonFCVCRs are pretty reliable.Mar 30 11:51
schestowitz-TRthey last longMar 30 11:51
schestowitz-TRthe more modern things last NOT longMar 30 11:51
DaemonFCThe main problem, eating tapes, is caused by letting the heads become dirty.Mar 30 11:51
schestowitz-TRtake SSD for exampleMar 30 11:51
DaemonFCWhich you can fix with a cheap cleaner tape.Mar 30 11:51
schestowitz-TRkeep them off the power for a few yearsMar 30 11:51
schestowitz-TRoptical disksMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRversus magneticMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRor FILMMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRfor photosMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRversus some iPHone with oddball portMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRlike firesomethingMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRnow we have webpMar 30 11:52
DaemonFCYes, they have a bad port of Firefox.Mar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRwill that outlast gulag?Mar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRwho knows...Mar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRlots of old image formatsMar 30 11:52
schestowitz-TRI cannot even open themMar 30 11:52
DaemonFCWashington Post: "We support every browser on iPhones.".Mar 30 11:53
schestowitz-TRcannot even tell you what they're called Mar 30 11:53
DaemonFCBecause iPhones don't have real browsers.Mar 30 11:53
schestowitz-TRor the suffic Mar 30 11:53
schestowitz-TRbecause I forgotMar 30 11:53
mateyyou can have it in any colour as long as its blackMar 30 11:53
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: I means physical portMar 30 11:53
schestowitz-TRtake iphone 1 in 10 years from nowMar 30 11:53
DaemonFCLightning.Mar 30 11:53
schestowitz-TRyour task if to get images out of itMar 30 11:54
schestowitz-TRno USBMar 30 11:54
schestowitz-TRno applicationMar 30 11:54
schestowitz-TRit was simpler with negatives of photosMar 30 11:54
DaemonFCMandy couldn't reset an iPhone 8 last night.Mar 30 11:54
DaemonFCHe kept wondering why I couldn't install iTunes to reset his phone.Mar 30 11:54
matey/me wonders why reset isnt a built-in featureMar 30 11:54
mateybut then its apple, soMar 30 11:54
DaemonFCIt is on Android.Mar 30 11:54
matey...Mar 30 11:55
mateyoh rightMar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TRapple never needs resettingMar 30 11:55
mateyi thought you meant his iphone wasMar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TRthat might confuse the user ;-)Mar 30 11:55
mateythat would be an interesting trickMar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TRand reset button makes them look less reliableMar 30 11:55
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, From what I can gather iTunes partially works on Wine.Mar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TRsalesman: it's perfect, you will never need to reset itMar 30 11:55
mateythe new iphone 15, now with no reset buttonMar 30 11:55
DaemonFCBut it's a real bitch to install and nobody said if resetting an iPhone worked or not.Mar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TRif you do, it's time to buy a new oneMar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TR"upgrade"Mar 30 11:55
DaemonFCSo I decided it wasn't worth the hassle.Mar 30 11:55
schestowitz-TRmore CPU core and RAM, same shitty "apps"Mar 30 11:56
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: hard resetMar 30 11:56
schestowitz-TRremove batteriedMar 30 11:56
schestowitz-TRput them back inMar 30 11:56
schestowitz-TRoh waitMar 30 11:57
schestowitz-TRit's soldered in OMGMar 30 11:57
DaemonFC:)Mar 30 11:57
schestowitz-TRshit shit shitMar 30 11:57
schestowitz-TRand you ALSO lose the warrantyMar 30 11:57
schestowitz-TRthe Apple genius bar won't serve you drinksMar 30 11:57
matey/me thinks apple is secretly run by sinead oconnerMar 30 11:57
mateyit explains everythingMar 30 11:57
DaemonFCYeah, the guy at Batteries Plus can replace iPhone batteries. But the battery health app says "Not an original Apple part!".Mar 30 11:57
DaemonFCABANDON SHIP ABANDON SHIP!Mar 30 11:57
DaemonFCNOT AN APPLE PART!Mar 30 11:57
schestowitz-TRmatey:  sinead oconner. think different.Mar 30 11:58
mateytoo different@Mar 30 11:58
mateytoo different!Mar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRmatey: after she shave her head she did the hammer throwMar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRat ICBMMar 30 11:58
DaemonFCFight the real enemy! *rips up the Pope*Mar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRand ICBM self-nuked on impactMar 30 11:58
DaemonFCAnd that's the last anyone saw of her.Mar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TR"think different." versus "think."Mar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRthen comes microsoftMar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TR"bribe."Mar 30 11:58
schestowitz-TRnew Microsot(r): "bribe different"Mar 30 11:59
schestowitz-TRbribe "Linux"Mar 30 11:59
mateythat was anya major but i think you were making a jokeMar 30 11:59
schestowitzsinead iConner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8Mar 30 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8Mar 30 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | 1984 Apple's First Macintosh Commercial - InvidiousMar 30 12:00
mateyshes british, and apart from throwing the hammer in the apple ad she was in the elton john video for nikitaMar 30 12:00
DaemonFCRonald Reagan joked about the Soviet Union that "An American can go in, and bang his fist on the president's desk, and say 'I don't like the way you're running this country!'". So the Russian said, "Oh yeah, I can do that too. I can go into Gorbachev's office, bang my fist on the desk, and say 'I don't like the way Reagan is running his country!'".Mar 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRirishMar 30 12:01
DaemonFCMeanwhile, in reality......Mar 30 12:01
matey iConner <- oh, okMar 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRi thinkMar 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRiRishMar 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRsorryMar 30 12:01
mateyyes oconner is irishMar 30 12:01
DaemonFCSecret Service agents with Uzis have to go everywhere with the president and he has a car that's really a tank.Mar 30 12:01
mateyanya major is britishMar 30 12:01
DaemonFCBecause no matter who the president is, 60% of Americans don't like him very much.Mar 30 12:01
schestowitz-TRit's a bad systemMar 30 12:02
DaemonFCReagan should have mentioned that someone shot him. Maybe he forgot.Mar 30 12:02
DaemonFC;)Mar 30 12:02
schestowitz-TRno person can be elected to do what's rightMar 30 12:02
schestowitz-TRwithout being assassinated or ruined at nominationMar 30 12:02
schestowitz-TRor libeled by corporate media owned by bezos and gatesMar 30 12:02
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DaemonFCEveryone is rattling on about how Biden's "approval rating" is 42%. They say "failed presidency".Mar 30 12:03
DaemonFCOkay, most people didn't like Bush and he got re-elected.Mar 30 12:03
techrights-newsClearview loves Putin's invasion. It helps distract from Clearview's crimes. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/ukraine-government-confirms-it-is-using-clearview-ai-to-identify-dead-russian-soldiers/Mar 30 12:03
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DaemonFCMost people didn't approve of Obama, he got re-elected. Same with Clinton. They lost control of Congress, but they were re-elected.Mar 30 12:03
DaemonFCWhy is that?Mar 30 12:04
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: failing countries are like thatMar 30 12:04
schestowitz-TRit's a good metricMar 30 12:04
schestowitz-TRwhen the person in power is so dislikedMar 30 12:04
schestowitz-TRit means direct democracy is fake Mar 30 12:04
DaemonFCThe presidential elections have never been a direct democracy here.Mar 30 12:04
schestowitz-TRlet me check somethingMar 30 12:04
schestowitz-TRI will check presidential approval rates by countryMar 30 12:04
BTcoInkdirect democracy is online poolsMar 30 12:04
DaemonFCThey are state elections with an electoral college, which does not allocate representation proportionally.Mar 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRassumption is, north europe ranks highMar 30 12:05
schestowitz-TRiceland even kicked its PM outMar 30 12:05
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_ratingMar 30 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United States presidential approval rating - WikipediaMar 30 12:05
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schestowitzTrump was worst everMar 30 12:06
schestowitz40%Mar 30 12:06
schestowitzaverageMar 30 12:06
schestowitzinc. the GOP-leaning pollsMar 30 12:06
schestowitzTruman was 22Mar 30 12:06
schestowitzlowest by pollMar 30 12:06
schestowitzbush was 90% in highest among themMar 30 12:07
schestowitz10 days after 9/11Mar 30 12:07
BTcoInkputin is loved in russia he alowas gets reelected they even need to change the constitution because of thatMar 30 12:07
DaemonFCTruman was the last that could have ran for unlimited terms.Mar 30 12:07
schestowitzsee? some people win other than the terroristsMar 30 12:07
schestowitzterrorists and war criminalsMar 30 12:07
schestowitzshared gainMar 30 12:07
schestowitzsecond was his dadMar 30 12:07
schestowitz89% after gulf warMar 30 12:08
DaemonFCThe two term limit wasn't added until the 1950s.Mar 30 12:08
DaemonFCIt was always an informal standard before then, and nobody really abused it badly until FDR.Mar 30 12:08
schestowitzbut we need to find stats for other countriesMar 30 12:08
DaemonFCAnd he was becoming a dictator, and only left office because he died.Mar 30 12:08
schestowitzmaybe not  in English edition of wikipediaMar 30 12:09
mateyand only left office because he died. <- to be fair it was a very good reasonMar 30 12:09
DaemonFCTrump and Biden have certainly tried to act like dictators.Mar 30 12:09
schestowitzhttps://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/Mar 30 12:09
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DaemonFCBut they've been cut down by the courts.Mar 30 12:10
schestowitzWow, Borisnaro 35%Mar 30 12:10
schestowitzlower than BolsonaroMar 30 12:10
schestowitzand BidenMar 30 12:10
DaemonFCFAILED DEMOCRACY!Mar 30 12:10
schestowitzyupMar 30 12:10
mateyfailed governmentMar 30 12:10
schestowitzbut poverty isn't as badMar 30 12:10
schestowitzas the USMar 30 12:10
schestowitzModi 76%Mar 30 12:10
mateythat cant be a real numberMar 30 12:11
schestowitz65% in MexicoMar 30 12:11
DaemonFCHave you considered that most people in the US don't care about the "Challenging Street People".Mar 30 12:11
schestowitzhttps://www.gallup.com/analytics/315824/gallup-global-leadership-center.aspxMar 30 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Global Leadership Approval Center | Gallup.comMar 30 12:11
mateythey certainly dontMar 30 12:11
DaemonFCmjg59_ steps over them like everyone else in that city.Mar 30 12:11
mateyout of curiosity what should he do?Mar 30 12:12
DaemonFCThey have plenty of practice stepping over things with over 20,000 complaints of shit on the sidewalk per year.Mar 30 12:12
DaemonFCVote out London Breed.Mar 30 12:12
DaemonFCCorrupt corporate hack.Mar 30 12:12
schestowitz-TRthere should be 2 million complainsMar 30 12:12
mateyfair enoughMar 30 12:12
schestowitz-TRabout literal shits who live thereMar 30 12:12
schestowitz-TRlike Mozilla CEOMar 30 12:13
mjg59_DaemonFC: UntrueMar 30 12:13
schestowitz-TRdon't judge people by the smellMar 30 12:13
mateyif most people cared about challenging street people they wouldnt be street peopleMar 30 12:13
DaemonFCWhen the mayor doesn't even say homeless and starts using "Challenging Street People", you know what they're doing there. Right?Mar 30 12:13
DaemonFCDehumanization.Mar 30 12:13
mjg59_schestowitz-TR: What's the tech content hereMar 30 12:13
schestowitz-TRstreet peopleMar 30 12:13
DaemonFCIt no longer acknowledges that they're homeless.Mar 30 12:14
schestowitz-TR"they came from the street"Mar 30 12:14
schestowitz-TR"they belong in the street"Mar 30 12:14
schestowitz-TRyou can't take the street of of the manMar 30 12:14
mateyWhat's the tech content here <- some of them have smartphonesMar 30 12:14
schestowitz-TReven if you take the man out of the streetMar 30 12:14
BTcoInkthe street is their homeMar 30 12:14
schestowitz-TRbtw, in the group blackstreet (gospel/r&b) there was one singer called "street"Mar 30 12:14
mateydenystreetMar 30 12:14
BTcoInkmany are car peopleMar 30 12:14
schestowitz-TRthey adopted the "slur"Mar 30 12:14
DaemonFCThey have to staff the toilets to make sure the Challenging Street People don't sleep in the port-a-potty.Mar 30 12:15
mateythats a good thingMar 30 12:15
mateyno one should sleep in one of thoseMar 30 12:15
mateyon the benches okayMar 30 12:15
schestowitz-TRin the uk they started charging to use publicm toiletsMar 30 12:15
schestowitz-TRthey are no longer publicMar 30 12:15
DaemonFCChicago runs a big homeless camp and a mental health hospital. It's called the County Jail.Mar 30 12:16
schestowitz-TRand that denies access to people who might end up "going" elsewhereMar 30 12:16
schestowitz-TRso it's a bad approachMar 30 12:16
schestowitz-TRrms says we should refuse to use theseMar 30 12:16
DaemonFCThey gutted the budget for mental health clinics and homeless shelters.Mar 30 12:16
schestowitz-TRI never paid I thinkMar 30 12:16
schestowitz-TRrianne did, I never didMar 30 12:16
BTcoInkeveryone agrees the shiter sould be privateMar 30 12:16
DaemonFCSo they commit petty crimes so they go to jail and get fed and don't freeze to death.Mar 30 12:16
mateyrms says we should refuse to use these <- ive been refusing to use pay toilets for a few decadesMar 30 12:16
mateybasically since the first one i ever sawMar 30 12:16
BTcoInkpublic shiting is a crimeMar 30 12:16
DaemonFC<matey> rms says we should refuse to use these <- ive been refusing to use pay toilets for a few decadesMar 30 12:16
mateyi was like "seriously, wtf"Mar 30 12:16
schestowitz-TRmatey: it's right there next to "spikes"Mar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TRto prevent them sleeping in .... placesMar 30 12:17
DaemonFCI think the point of "San Francisco Pit Stop" is that people don't have to pay so they won't just shit on the sidewalk.Mar 30 12:17
DaemonFCOf course, people pay....taxes.Mar 30 12:17
mateyyeah some people removed a bunch of armrests because they were really just anti-sleeping features Mar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TR[12:16] <matey> i was like "seriously, wtf"Mar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TRplanes (airtlines) did the sameMar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TRor considered itMar 30 12:17
mjg59_It's a good thing San Francisco has rolled out a whole bunch of toilets you don't have to pay forMar 30 12:17
mateyso they unbolted and stole the armrests from the becnhes as good samaritansMar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TRcausing an outcryMar 30 12:17
mateyi thought it was prettty epicMar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TRfirst they take the meals awayMar 30 12:17
schestowitz-TRthen the tea and sandwichMar 30 12:18
DaemonFCIf it bothered them that much, they'd reform the laws there to end the housing crisis. They only keep the housing crisis going so people like mjg59_ will pay $800,000 for a tiny house.Mar 30 12:18
schestowitz-TRthen you can't even "go"Mar 30 12:18
schestowitz-TR"bring diapers"Mar 30 12:18
mateyof course it would also be epic to give them a   place indoors to sleepMar 30 12:18
schestowitz-TR(that escalated quickly!)Mar 30 12:18
mateybut even removing the armrests was a good thingMar 30 12:18
DaemonFCIt's deliberate so they can say "Look at me! I'm important! I can AFFORD to have a home here!".Mar 30 12:18
BTcoInkif you dont eat you dont need to shitMar 30 12:18
schestowitz-TRmatey: maybe because of "big people"Mar 30 12:18
DaemonFC"We made a crisis so we could live in it and laugh at the challenging street people!"Mar 30 12:19
mateymatey: maybe because of "big people" <- no i dont think soMar 30 12:19
mjg59_Unclear what the desired mechanism here isMar 30 12:19
mjg59_Am I supposed to just put a toilet outside my doorMar 30 12:19
DaemonFCYour tax dollars at work.Mar 30 12:19
DaemonFCChicago doesn't have to do this to avoid shit in the streets.Mar 30 12:20
DaemonFCThe more liberal your city is, the more freaks and assholes live there.Mar 30 12:20
techrights-newsSuppressed reporting, suppressed subject (not convenient to media owners) https://www.projectcensored.org/lack-of-research-on-rise-of-suicides-among-asian-american-youth/Mar 30 12:20
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DaemonFCPretty soon you can't even use a toilet.Mar 30 12:20
matey<mjg59_> Unclear what the desired mechanism here is <- basically the problem is being liberalMar 30 12:20
mateyeverything else is commentaryMar 30 12:20
techrights-newsCrackers, not hackers https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/Mar 30 12:21
DaemonFCHis Royal Hineyness.Mar 30 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Hackers Gaining Power of Subpoena Via Fake โ€œEmergency Data Requestsโ€ โ€“ Krebs on SecurityMar 30 12:21
mjg59_Shit, I hadn't realised that marriage equality meant more people living on the streetsMar 30 12:21
mateytheres always something new to learn hereMar 30 12:21
mjg59_"Crackers, not hackers" this disagrees with the content of the original 80s version of the Jargon File before ESR took overMar 30 12:22
techrights-newsDiscord is terrible for many LEGITIMATE reasons https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/the-latest-moral-panic-focuses-on-discord/Mar 30 12:22
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DaemonFCEverywhere the liberals go, they screw up the economy and raise taxes, but while at first glance it looks like they're stupid, they have a good reason for it. They don't actually want poor black people living anywhere near them.Mar 30 12:22
matey<mjg59_> "Crackers, not hackers" this disagrees with <- do you consider it bunk?Mar 30 12:22
mjg59_The definition of "hacker" at the time included what later versions called "cracker"Mar 30 12:22
mateyi always considered it wishful thinkingMar 30 12:22
DaemonFCThey reckon if they drive the cost of living sky high, they can just say the right things and not have to admit they're racists.Mar 30 12:22
mateya prescriptive distinctionMar 30 12:22
DaemonFCThe left in this country is the most racist group there is.Mar 30 12:23
schestowitz-TRdemonstrably falseMar 30 12:23
DaemonFCThere's plenty of black people living in red states, because nobody is trying to force them out of their homes by taking their jobs away and raising taxes and rents.Mar 30 12:23
schestowitz-TRthey are clkassistMar 30 12:23
mateyi find DaemonFC considerably less offensive then rush limbaughMar 30 12:23
schestowitz-TRnot racistMar 30 12:23
mateybut some of the overlap is amusingMar 30 12:23
mjg59_From version 1.10 of the Jargon File: "6. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries toMar 30 12:24
mjg59_discover information by poking around. Hence "password hacker"Mar 30 12:24
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schestowitz-TRbut many poor people belond to ethnic groups and immigrant familiesMar 30 12:24
schestowitz-TRthg right is tribalistMar 30 12:24
schestowitz-TRnot classistMar 30 12:24
schestowitz-TRbut the classicism extends to tribalismMar 30 12:24
matey/me finds the term "tribalist" extremely unfortunateMar 30 12:24
mateythe right isnt classist?Mar 30 12:24
matey/me falls over laughingMar 30 12:24
schestowitzhttps://apnews.com/article/election-2020-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-racial-injustice-jared-kushner-d7cf670c43a41dc941e6ac21c0e683deMar 30 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | Kushner says Black people must 'want to be successful' | AP NewsMar 30 12:25
DaemonFCThe problem here is that the right just sounds like a bunch of assholes but the left puts in policies that drive black people out or harass them with laws that are designed to send them to prison.Mar 30 12:25
mateyim not concerned about tribes being offended, its a tragedy of mischaracterisationMar 30 12:25
DaemonFCThe Democrat gun laws in Illinois.....90% of the people sent to prison are black.Mar 30 12:25
schestowitzhttps://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/26/jared-kushner-criticized-saying-black-people-need-want-successful/6043088002/Mar 30 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Jared Kushner says Black people need to 'want to be successful'Mar 30 12:25
mateyThe problem here is that the right just sounds like a bunch of assholes but the left puts in policies that drive black people out or harass them with laws that are designed to send them to prison. <- the so-called left is largely populated with hypocrites, its trueMar 30 12:25
DaemonFCWhen white people are found with an illegal gun, there's court diversions and misdemeanor versions of the offense all of a sudden.Mar 30 12:25
DaemonFCWhat do you know?Mar 30 12:26
mateyleft opportunists keep the left from doing legitimately left things Mar 30 12:26
schestowitz-TR[12:24] <matey> /me falls over laughingMar 30 12:26
schestowitz-TRas long as that class is of "their kind"Mar 30 12:26
mateyfrom a campaign standpoint thats very trueMar 30 12:26
DaemonFCIn Indiana, you won't even need a gun permit for open carry soon.Mar 30 12:26
mateybut campaign is just another word for bullshitMar 30 12:26
DaemonFCSo nobody will be arrested or sent to prison.Mar 30 12:26
mateythey USE the lower class during electionsMar 30 12:26
DaemonFCIllinois is happy with 9 out of 10 prisoners being black.Mar 30 12:26
mateythat doesnt make them any less classistMar 30 12:27
mateyits like saying that slaveowners werent racist because they had mostly black workers.Mar 30 12:27
DaemonFCThe left is pretty much delighted by human suffering.Mar 30 12:27
DaemonFCIt makes them feel more accomplished.Mar 30 12:27
matey"look how diverse our workforce is!"Mar 30 12:27
techrights-news"As the New York Times reported in 2015, Schrems was a 24-year-old student studying at the Santa Clara School of Law in California, when lawyers from Silicon Valley came to talk to students about their companiesโ€™ approach to privacy." https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-a-few-thoughtless-words-about-privacy-led-to-huge-political-and-economic-headaches-for-the-us-and-eu/Mar 30 12:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | How a Few Thoughtless Words about Privacy Led to Huge Political and Economic Headaches for the US and EU political and economic headacheMar 30 12:27
DaemonFCThat's the only reason you'd live in San Francisco.Mar 30 12:27
DaemonFCIt's about the snob aspect of it.Mar 30 12:28
DaemonFC"I'm glad I have $800,000 for a tiny house with no land. Unlike those Challenging Street People!"Mar 30 12:28
mateyhatred of the working class is extremely common among the bourgiosieMar 30 12:29
mateybut what dfc is complaining about is something marx and lenin said routinelyMar 30 12:29
DaemonFCThat really is why the left hates states like Indiana.Mar 30 12:29
DaemonFCAlmost anyone in Indiana who gets a job can have a house. A nice one.Mar 30 12:29
techrights-newsCondรฉ Nast should just die already, along with its lying Microsoft rags and Reddit https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/prestige-doesnt-pay-bills-conde-nast-workers-announce-new-unionMar 30 12:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Prestige Doesn't Pay the Bills': Condรฉ Nast Workers Announce New UnionMar 30 12:30
DaemonFCI've known people working at convenience stores who have an apartment 10 times bigger than one you have to share with 5 other men in San Francisco.Mar 30 12:30
techrights-newsMore bailout money for Microsoft https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/ukraine-war-cannot-justify-bidens-too-damn-high-pentagon-budget see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Mar 30 12:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Ukraine War Cannot Justify Biden's Too-Damn-High Pentagon Budget | William HartungMar 30 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayersโ€™ Expense | TechrightsMar 30 12:31
mateyto share with 5 other men in San Francisco. <- im pretty sure some of that was voluntary, particularly the "5 other men" partMar 30 12:31
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DaemonFCNo it's not.Mar 30 12:33
schestowitz-TRsometimes people are made to delude themselvesMar 30 12:33
DaemonFCYou look for apartments in San Francisco and you get "$1,500" apartments, and then find out they want you to share 300 square feet with three roommates and it's really $6,000 a month for the apartment.Mar 30 12:33
schestowitz-TRto compel to spin as voluntary something that is notMar 30 12:33
schestowitz-TR"I'm happy to have just one room"Mar 30 12:33
schestowitz-TR"I'm happy to live in SF"Mar 30 12:34
schestowitz-TR"I actualluy am OK with this job"Mar 30 12:34
schestowitz-TR"I don't need a bath"Mar 30 12:34
schestowitz-TRthey call it sour grapesMar 30 12:34
matey<schestowitz-TR> to compel to spin as voluntary something that is not <- no, it was a cheap joke about the scene in sfMar 30 12:34
schestowitz-TRnot limited to foxes in grapsvinesMar 30 12:34
schestowitz-TRmatey: well, DaemonFC is gayMar 30 12:34
mateyyes i knowMar 30 12:35
schestowitz-TRso I would not make unfair assumptions about intentMar 30 12:35
DaemonFCUbuntu used to include "The Fox and the Sour Grapes" as a demonstration of ODF.Mar 30 12:35
mateyand i thought he might find a small amount of humour in itMar 30 12:35
matey<schestowitz-TR> so I would not make unfair assumptions <- youre forgetting that he has a sense of humourMar 30 12:35
DaemonFCIronically, I think that was while mjg59_ was there.Mar 30 12:35
techrights-news"The first pirate site blocking order in Canada remains in place. Internet provider TekSavvy petitioned the Supreme Court to hear the case but this request was denied." https://torrentfreak.com/canadas-supreme-court-denies-teksavvys-site-blocking-appeal-220329/Mar 30 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canada's Supreme Court Denies TekSavvy's Site Blocking Appeal * TorrentFreakMar 30 12:35
techrights-news"Russia-based game developer Four Quarters is against the war in Ukraine but in common with other companies, still feels the effects of sanctions." https://torrentfreak.com/russian-loop-hero-dev-approves-piracy-after-sanctions-hobble-steam-220329/Mar 30 12:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russian 'Loop Hero' Dev Approves Piracy After Sanctions Hobble Steam * TorrentFreakMar 30 12:36
mateyalso it wasnt an assumption. that would imply it was said seriouslyMar 30 12:36
DaemonFC"I don't like Indiana and their low cost of living. Everyone there is probably a rube anyway." *laughs in $20 coffee*Mar 30 12:36
schestowitz-TRmatey: right, sorry for misunderstandingMar 30 12:36
mateyno worries at allMar 30 12:36
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: I had coffee with irish cream minutes agoMar 30 12:37
mateyit was a dumb joke besidesMar 30 12:37
schestowitz-TRthe cost? about 30 penceMar 30 12:37
DaemonFC30 of Mike Pence?Mar 30 12:37
schestowitz-TRinc. liquor Mar 30 12:37
DaemonFCWhat, are they coming out of a vat now?Mar 30 12:37
schestowitz-TRI cal him mike pantsMar 30 12:37
schestowitz-TRpants here means "rubbish"Mar 30 12:37
schestowitz-TR"this thing was pants.."Mar 30 12:37
schestowitz-TRthe media tells people to payn for "ambiance"Mar 30 12:38
schestowitz-TRshopping malls and coffee shopsMar 30 12:38
DaemonFC<matey> i find DaemonFC considerably less offensive then rush limbaughMar 30 12:38
schestowitz-TRmost coffee shops are not plesantMar 30 12:38
DaemonFCI never listened to Rush Limbaugh.Mar 30 12:38
schestowitz-TRunless you live in council housingMar 30 12:38
schestowitz-TRBUT...Mar 30 12:38
DaemonFCJerry Doyle had a talk radio show for a while.Mar 30 12:38
schestowitz-TRpeople who go there are NOT poorMar 30 12:39
schestowitz-TRthey pretend to be richMar 30 12:39
schestowitz-TRbut are not poor eirherMar 30 12:39
schestowitz-TRthere is no reason for them to go thereMar 30 12:39
schestowitz-TRtheir kitchen is a lot nicerMar 30 12:39
DaemonFCLimbaugh was a Republican. Doyle criticized Romney and supported Ron Paul.Mar 30 12:39
mateyJerry Doyle had a talk radio show for a while. <- from b5?Mar 30 12:39
DaemonFCYes, him.Mar 30 12:39
mateyi knew he was republicanMar 30 12:39
schestowitz-TRso it's all "fasshen" and lyfestaille"Mar 30 12:39
mateyalso wasnt he married to the blonde psycorps officer?Mar 30 12:40
mateyin the show he had a crush, but in real lifeMar 30 12:40
DaemonFCYes he was, for a while.Mar 30 12:40
mateyshe was pretty amazing for a blondeMar 30 12:40
DaemonFCThey wrote her out of the show.Mar 30 12:40
mateyreminded me of cybil shepherd-- in some ways even better lookingMar 30 12:40
mateythey sure did, but why?Mar 30 12:41
techrights-newsThe other Ginni who supports the Orange Nazi (not the Ginni from ICBM, Rometty) https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/clarence-thomas-should-resign-and-ginni-thomas-should-be-prosecuted https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/29/ginni_thomas_clarence_thomas_democratic_electionsMar 30 12:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Clarence Thomas Should Resign and Ginni Thomas Should Be Prosecuted | Thom HartmannMar 30 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Ginni & Clarence Thomas vs. Democracy: He Sided with Trump in Court While She Backed Coup Attempt | Democracy Now!Mar 30 12:41
DaemonFCIt turned out that the Psi Corps implanted a fake personality in her and that was the one everyone knew.Mar 30 12:41
mateyno i know the storylineMar 30 12:41
mateyi mean what was the reason they wrote her outMar 30 12:41
DaemonFCNot sure.Mar 30 12:41
mateyoh okayMar 30 12:41
mateytalia wintersMar 30 12:42
DaemonFCI call it the Babylon 5 Curse, though, what happened to the people who acted in the show.Mar 30 12:42
DaemonFCMost of them died shortly thereafter, way too young too.Mar 30 12:42
mateyyeah no kiddingMar 30 12:42
mateypoor zathrasMar 30 12:42
techrights-newsThe corporatisation of "science(TM)" https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/university-climate-research-fossil-fuels/Mar 30 12:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Climate Research Shouldnโ€™t Be Funded by Fossil Fuel Companies | The NationMar 30 12:43
DaemonFCNobody listen to zathras. Mar 30 12:43
mateyzathras have a sad life. probably have a sad death tooMar 30 12:43
DaemonFCHe talks to dirt. Dirt sometimes have bugs. Bugs listen.Mar 30 12:43
mateyi think if elmo gets old enough he will sound exactly like zathrasMar 30 12:43
techrights-news"Was it all a dream? In the harsh light of 2022, the early years of my time working at BuzzFeedโ€”the boozy launch parties of each new vertical, the iPads distributed as holiday swag, the taco Tuesdays" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/buzzfeed-news-layoffs-journalism/Mar 30 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | BuzzFeed Doesnโ€™t Deserve Its Newsroom | The NationMar 30 12:44
mateyelmo likes tickles. no one tickles elmo anymore. elmo was happy. elmo have sad life.Mar 30 12:44
DaemonFCMotorcycle accident, died, 49.Mar 30 12:44
DaemonFCThey are death traps.Mar 30 12:44
techrights-news"Last week, the EU and the US announced something important that sounds pretty boring โ€” a new โ€œprivacy shieldโ€ agreement" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/eu-us-say-theyve-agreed-to-a-new-privacy-shield-that-doesnt-seem-to-deal-with-any-of-the-problems-of-the-old-one/Mar 30 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU/US Say Theyโ€™ve Agreed To A New Privacy Shieldโ€ฆ That Doesnโ€™t Seem To Deal With Any Of The Problems Of The Old One | TechdirtMar 30 12:44
DaemonFCAnd most people who buy them are in their 40s.Mar 30 12:44
mateyits sort of like a game of russian roulette that can get you from a to-- maybe bMar 30 12:45
techrights-newsMaybe they just don't like people https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/as-scrutiny-of-law-enforcement-increases-legislators-are-trying-to-criminalize-filming-of-police-officers/Mar 30 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As Scrutiny Of Law Enforcement Increases, Legislators Are Trying To Criminalize Filming Of Police Officers | TechdirtMar 30 12:45
DaemonFCI wouldn't ride a bicycle in the Chicago region.Mar 30 12:45
DaemonFCToo many illegal Mexicans.Mar 30 12:45
DaemonFCHit and run.Mar 30 12:45
DaemonFCEvery goddamned day.Mar 30 12:45
schestowitz-TR" illegal Mexicans"?Mar 30 12:47
schestowitz-TRDo you have to be " illegal Mexicans" to hit a cyclist?Mar 30 12:47
DaemonFCWell, it seems to be "Illegal Mexican hit and run" Groundhog Day around here.Mar 30 12:47
schestowitz-TRas a principleMar 30 12:47
schestowitz-TRundocumented residents are LESS likely to commit such offensesMar 30 12:47
mjg59_12:35 < DaemonFC> Ironically, I think that was while mjg59_ was there.Mar 30 12:47
DaemonFCWell, not necessarily.Mar 30 12:48
mjg59_?Mar 30 12:48
schestowitz-TRas they have more to loseMar 30 12:48
DaemonFCTHen why is it in the news CONSTANTLY?Mar 30 12:48
schestowitz-TRFox?Mar 30 12:48
DaemonFCIt's almost always a Mexican.Mar 30 12:48
DaemonFCLake and McHenry Scanner or WGN.Mar 30 12:48
mjg59_I didn't live in SF in that timeframe, and I was never a Cnonical employee, so ?Mar 30 12:48
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DaemonFCLake and McHenry Scanner more aggressively posts mugshots than WGN.Mar 30 12:49
techrights-news"Billionaires purposefully don't take incomesโ€”they borrow against their wealth to fund their lifestyles (buy, borrow, and die.)" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/manchin-blasted-opposing-bidens-plan-tax-us-billionairesMar 30 12:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Manchin Blasted for Opposing Biden's Plan to Tax US BillionairesMar 30 12:49
DaemonFCWGN follows the Coulter's Law, whereby the longer it takes them to mention race or produce a mugshot, the less likely the offender is white.Mar 30 12:49
DaemonFChttps://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/coulters-law/Mar 30 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coulter's Law Meaning & Origin | Slang by Dictionary.comMar 30 12:50
techrights-newsParadox: security and buzzwords like IoShit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-securing-internet-thingsMar 30 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Securing the Internet of Things | Electronic Frontier FoundationMar 30 12:50
mjg59_schestowitz-TR: So are channel norms that I'm just accused of stuff that, well, is clearly not me?Mar 30 12:51
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=GEVAE3EYoOg&t=144 <- THen why is it in the news CONSTANTLY?Mar 30 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Arabs" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - InvidiousMar 30 12:51
DaemonFCI don't like Ann Coulter much, but she's right.Mar 30 12:51
DaemonFCIf the alleged offender was white, there's a mugshot right away.Mar 30 12:51
mateythat I'm just accused of stuff that, well, is clearly not me? <- i think of it as a running comedy routineMar 30 12:51
techrights-newsWindow Snyder is a Microsofter. Why does the EFF boost Microsofters as if they're security experts? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-securing-internet-things EFF increasingly a loss cause. Also a Microsoft booster. http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/Mar 30 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | TechrightsMar 30 12:51
DaemonFCIf not, it just says "three teenagers" or something.Mar 30 12:51
DaemonFCWhen the news just says "four teenagers carjacked someone", and there's no mugshot, it's code.Mar 30 12:52
schestowitz-TR*lost causeMar 30 12:52
mateywrong timestampMar 30 12:52
DaemonFCIt means they want to report the police blotter but not outrage Jesse Jackson.Mar 30 12:52
matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GEVAE3EYoOg&t=114Mar 30 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Arabs" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - InvidiousMar 30 12:53
mateythe whole video is good of courseMar 30 12:53
techrights-newsTax on 95 Percent of Corporate Windfall Profits https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-wants-wwii-style-tax-on-95-percent-of-corporate-windfall-profits/Mar 30 12:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Bernie Sanders Wants WWII-Style Tax on 95 Percent of Corporate Windfall ProfitsMar 30 12:57
techrights-newsSweatshopZome https://truthout.org/articles/alabama-amazon-workers-were-forced-to-work-as-mysterious-gas-filled-warehouse/Mar 30 12:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Alabama Amazon Workers Were Forced to Work as Mysterious Gas Filled WarehouseMar 30 12:58
schestowitz-TR*ZoneMar 30 12:58
schestowitz-TRI have a new name fore bezoscorpMar 30 12:58
schestowitz-TRalthough it does not cover business operations like AWSMar 30 12:58
schestowitz-TR"web" "services"Mar 30 12:59
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–†โ–†โ–…โ–‚โ–…โ–ƒโ–†โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–‚โ–โ–†โ–†โ–‡โ–โ–‡โ–ƒโ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–‡โ–†โ–„โ–„โ–‚โ–ƒโ–†โ– avg(k/sec) 21.46 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–†โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–โ–ƒโ– avg(k/sec) 65.15โ–• swarm size (avg): 274.45  โŸฒMar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRso-called 'services'...Mar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRit goes downMar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRthey suspend youMar 30 12:59
DaemonFCAmazon Web Outages.Mar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRthey do price hikesMar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRetc.Mar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRAWOLMar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRAmazon Web Outage LOLMar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRlast year techrights had better uptime than awsMar 30 12:59
schestowitz-TRfreenode has better uptime than slackMar 30 13:00
DaemonFCJean Marc Valin left Mozilla.....for Amazon Web Outages.Mar 30 13:00
schestowitz-TRin spite of all the turebulence Mar 30 13:00
schestowitz-TRsame for libera chatMar 30 13:00
matey <schestowitz-TR> last year techrights had better uptime than aws <- even with the countless ddos attacks?Mar 30 13:00
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: many from ICBM/Red Hat move to AWSMar 30 13:00
DaemonFCI wonder if he was a victim of Mitchell or just got out ahead of it.Mar 30 13:00
schestowitz-TRLOADSMar 30 13:00
schestowitz-TReven managersMar 30 13:00
schestowitz-TRthey move quietlyMar 30 13:01
schestowitz-TRmatey: yesMar 30 13:01
schestowitz-TRwe didn't even have many ddos attacks last yearMar 30 13:01
schestowitz-TRtuxmachines had the issuesMar 30 13:01
mateyohMar 30 13:01
schestowitz-TRwe wrote a program to mitigateMar 30 13:01
schestowitz-TRit might even be in gitMar 30 13:01
DaemonFCIBM: Let us terrorize and demoralize you with persistent layoffs and job interviews to see if you get laid off this time. Also, here's a pay cut.Mar 30 13:01
mateyyeah i recall when you started testing itMar 30 13:01
*schestowitz-TR checksMar 30 13:01
DaemonFCNPR: IBM is doing well!Mar 30 13:01
mateybasically like fail2ban except for httpsMar 30 13:02
mateyf2b is for sshMar 30 13:02
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, The Catholic Church is treating their employees like IBM does.Mar 30 13:02
mateyplus with a timeoutMar 30 13:02
DaemonFCMom's terrified if she files partial unemployment due to the cut hours that they'll fire her.Mar 30 13:02
schestowitz-TRyes, it is in gitMar 30 13:03
DaemonFCThat's illegal, but we know what the labor laws are like in America.Mar 30 13:03
schestowitz-TRunder  sbin and sbin-tmMar 30 13:03
DaemonFCIt may be illegal, but good luck with that!Mar 30 13:03
schestowitz-TRmatey: no, more like "attack mode"Mar 30 13:03
schestowitz-TRon and off depending on loadMar 30 13:03
schestowitz-TRand on timersMar 30 13:03
DaemonFCThey're like anyone else. They warn if you bring in a labor union, they'll fire everybody.Mar 30 13:03
matey/me figures its basically like fail2ban, except for https and with a timeoutMar 30 13:04
DaemonFCSo nobody risks it, because individually, they need a paycheck every week more than they need pie in the sky from a labor union.Mar 30 13:04
schestowitz-TRthere are manu union-bustinmg methodsMar 30 13:05
schestowitz-TREPO tried manyMar 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRbut they're outwitted by EPO staff repsMar 30 13:05
BTcoInkDaemonFC is a chatbotMar 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRand union leadersMar 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRso far...Mar 30 13:05
mateybot calling the kettle blackMar 30 13:05
schestowitz-TRthe kettle is denyMar 30 13:06
matey/me coughs Mar 30 13:06
mateyi was just going to sayMar 30 13:06
matey"deny"Mar 30 13:06
BTcoInkwtf that means?Mar 30 13:06
mateybeautyMar 30 13:06
mateynow you dont followMar 30 13:06
techrights-newsSCOTUS: the questions OFF the table https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/no-corporate-law-and-power-questions-for-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson/Mar 30 13:06
BTcoInkyou a bot too?Mar 30 13:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No Corporate Law and Power Questions for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson - CounterPunch.orgMar 30 13:06
BTcoInkww3 is here and you keep chating about crapMar 30 13:08
BTcoInkare you russian propaganda machine?Mar 30 13:08
mateyww3 has been here for a decade or moreMar 30 13:08
mateyyes im a russian propaganda machine that refers to russias leader as "putler" and "putlin"Mar 30 13:08
mateylets just say im a russian propaganda machine with a vicious sense of humourMar 30 13:09
BTcoInkto escape the alghorithmesMar 30 13:09
mateynaturallyMar 30 13:09
mateyfools them every timeMar 30 13:09
mateybecause this irc is LOADED with anti-propaganda algorithmsMar 30 13:09
mateyyou can find them on the gemhub.Mar 30 13:09
techrights-newsInstead of protecting women, babies and embryos Texas now protects the travel industry. And the travel is a risk to life. This was never about protecting humans. Women will do what they want, one way or another...Mar 30 13:09
mateytwitter is enviousMar 30 13:09
XRevan86BTcoInk: When we talked about the Russian propaganda machine, ye called this channel "right-leaning".Mar 30 13:10
mateythey cant use them though beause they serve over https and jsMar 30 13:10
BTcoInkrussian love rightwingMar 30 13:10
BTcoInkputin loves trumpMar 30 13:10
BTcoInkthey even finance the ultra rightMar 30 13:11
XRevan86That they do.Mar 30 13:11
BTcoInkputin wants warMar 30 13:11
XRevan86That's an astute observation after Putin started a war.Mar 30 13:12
matey :)Mar 30 13:12
BTcoInkto spread socialisme?Mar 30 13:12
techrights-newsMicrosoft is neither web nor dev, it's a resource-hogging malware cult gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/motivation-to-learn-something-new-webdevMar 30 13:12
mateyheheMar 30 13:12
XRevan86BTcoInk: To spread his rule.Mar 30 13:13
mateythose darn ukranians, getting in the way of putlins socialist natural gas with their wicked capitalist petrol conglomeratesMar 30 13:13
BTcoInkputin is fascistMar 30 13:14
mateyclose enough for the momentMar 30 13:14
BTcoInkso was stalinMar 30 13:14
mateysimilar to putlin yesMar 30 13:14
schestowitz-TR https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asks-putin-provide-dirt-hunter-biden-1329356/Mar 30 13:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Trump Asks Putin to Dig Up Dirt on Biden Family - Rolling StoneMar 30 13:14
mateynot much that was socialist about either of themMar 30 13:15
*alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)Mar 30 13:15
mateythe rich love socialism for the richMar 30 13:15
mateystalinism was socialism for the bureaucracyMar 30 13:15
schestowitz-TR[09:30] <Techrights-sec> cheetonazi is soliciting more foreign interference again, highly illegal givenMar 30 13:19
schestowitz-TR[09:30] <Techrights-sec> his past and current positionl, teachnically treasonous; but then neither Mar 30 13:19
schestowitz-TR[09:30] <Techrights-sec> sedition nor treason have been prosecuted during the last 15 yearsMar 30 13:19
schestowitz-TR[09:30] <Techrights-sec> despite occurences             Mar 30 13:19
schestowitz-TR[09:30] <Techrights-sec> faux news, newsmax, and other are part of thatMar 30 13:19
schestowitz-TRcheetonazi sounds like Fibonacci Mar 30 13:19
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schestowitz-TRmatey: ^Mar 30 13:19
schestowitz-TRMinceR: Mar 30 13:20
schestowitz-TRcheetonazi has caught onMar 30 13:20
schestowitz-TRlike the cheeseMar 30 13:20
schestowitz-TRon the shirtMar 30 13:20
mateycheetonazi is soliciting more foreign interference again <- its obviously a lot worse when a former president does itMar 30 13:21
mateythough quite a lot of people during bush ii were asking the rest of the world to please invadeMar 30 13:21
mateyim not entirely sure its the same thing at all, just noting it for completenessMar 30 13:21
mateyi was never terribly fond of the sedition act, trump doesnt change this Mar 30 13:23
mateyfwiw i dont think foreign invasion is generally a good (or effective) way to liberate anything (except oil, then its effective)Mar 30 13:23
matey/me wonders if its sedition for the south to accept help from britain AFTER secedingMar 30 13:24
mateyprobably, buy technically i dont knowMar 30 13:25
mateysuppose that putin takes over the united states-- i know thats hilarious, just for the sake of argumentMar 30 13:26
mateyare we going to call it sedition if people ask canada and mexico to please interveneMar 30 13:27
mateyi think under those circumstances sedition would be acceptableMar 30 13:27
schestowitz-TRhaMar 30 13:27
mateyits a deliberately silly exampleMar 30 13:27
schestowitz-TRbetter examplMar 30 13:28
mateyas i said im not a big fan of the sedition actMar 30 13:28
schestowitz-TRchina ore russia in mexicoMar 30 13:28
schestowitz-TRand then the US invades MexicoMar 30 13:28
schestowitz-TRwhen putin flies to colombiaMar 30 13:30
mateybecause he likes good coffeeMar 30 13:30
schestowitz-TRand coordinates actions with their guerillas \Mar 30 13:30
mateyso liberate better coffeeMar 30 13:30
schestowitz-TR"we cannot allow this president biden to stay in power!!!"Mar 30 13:30
schestowitz-TRColombia is Poland BTWMar 30 13:30
mateyinterestingMar 30 13:30
schestowitz-TRFARCMar 30 13:31
mateythat reminds meMar 30 13:31
mateyFART FART FART FART is from twitter, yes?Mar 30 13:31
schestowitzhttps://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/nato-notes/Mar 30 13:31
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schestowitzbetter and new: https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/bidens-unhinged-call-for-regime-change-in-russia/Mar 30 13:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bidenโ€™s Unhinged Call for Regime Change in Russia - CounterPunch.orgMar 30 13:32
schestowitzhe basically went to polandMar 30 13:32
schestowitznext to belarusMar 30 13:32
schestowitzand gave marching orders of sortsMar 30 13:33
schestowitzlike US wants to also decide for russia who should run itMar 30 13:33
schestowitzlike putin allegedly did in USMar 30 13:33
mateywhen i was a kid i suspected the world was probably crazyMar 30 13:33
mateyi had no idea how much thoughMar 30 13:33
schestowitzremembe rthe Trumps met Putin's officialsMar 30 13:33
schestowitzto coordinate their campaignMar 30 13:33
schestowitzwhile I oppose fake newsMar 30 13:33
schestowitzand exeggerationsMar 30 13:34
mateylolMar 30 13:34
schestowitzthis one was not denied by the TrumpsMar 30 13:34
matey<schestowitz> like US wants to also decide for russia who should run it <- this is what facebook is forMar 30 13:34
schestowitzwhy would a campaign for US presidency involve meeting Putin's folks?Mar 30 13:34
schestowitzyes, FB is part of manyMar 30 13:34
schestowitzmany partsMar 30 13:34
mateyfacebook is like the united nations except with shitty algorithmsMar 30 13:34
schestowitzand they can swap them aroundMar 30 13:34
schestowitzgulagtube takes of the mask more and moreMar 30 13:34
schestowitzhttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feedsMar 30 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions | Facebook | The GuardianMar 30 13:35
mateyif russia wants to interfere with an election, thats what facebook is forMar 30 13:35
schestowitzbiul''s guardianMar 30 13:35
mateyif america wants to interfere with the russian government, facebook can help with that tooMar 30 13:35
schestowitzbill's broadcasting corp.:  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930Mar 30 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC NewsMar 30 13:35
mateywho needs the united nations when you have zuckerberg?Mar 30 13:35
matey"they trust us, dumb fucks"-- united nationsMar 30 13:35
schestowitz-TR\FB has many productaMar 30 13:36
schestowitz-TRnot meteverseMar 30 13:36
schestowitz-TRproducts like "brexit"Mar 30 13:36
schestowitz-TRproducts like "borisnaro"Mar 30 13:36
mateySR -> NKVD -> KGB -> FBMar 30 13:36
schestowitz-TRfaecbook: we have a CATALOGUEMar 30 13:37
schestowitz-TR20 million BritsMar 30 13:37
schestowitz-TRwill 1) spyMar 30 13:37
schestowitz-TR2) indoctrinateMar 30 13:37
schestowitz-TR3) report backMar 30 13:37
schestowitz-TRfor canvassingMar 30 13:37
mateyPBSMar 30 13:37
schestowitz-TRPBS funded by BillMar 30 13:37
mateypractically bills stationMar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TRlike Bill's PR (NPR) Mar 30 13:38
mateynpr, national philanthropist radioMar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TRPBS did ask him one or two questions about the "rich people" thoughMar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TRthe bribes were not enough I guessMar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TRhe must have panickedMar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TRhe did visible snappedMar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TR"I'm PAYING you"Mar 30 13:38
matey"what do you mean by 'rich people'"Mar 30 13:38
schestowitz-TRdon't ask me about "well he's dea"Mar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TR*deadMar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TRriuch peopleMar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TRhe said it himselfMar 30 13:39
mateyreich people?Mar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TRhe was close to epsteinMar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TRbecause he know lots of rich peopleMar 30 13:39
mateymaxwell houseMar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TRbut epstein mostly provided confidential maccess to 'little people'Mar 30 13:39
schestowitz-TRGates is the one with contacts among "rich people"Mar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TReven SaudisMar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TRso the internal JOKE here beforeMar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TRthat "rich people" is codeMar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TRit's a jokeMar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TRbut still fittingMar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TRepstein DID know a lot of "rich people"Mar 30 13:40
schestowitz-TRhe literally smuggled thousands of themMar 30 13:41
schestowitz-TRhe hooked up "rich people" (quotes) with rich peopleMar 30 13:41
mateydaughter swapping?Mar 30 13:41
schestowitz-TRin marshal island or virgin island or just in the airMar 30 13:41
schestowitz-TRwhere it's no-man's landMar 30 13:41
schestowitz-TRabout 20 years ago they did a survey in chinaMar 30 13:42
schestowitz-TRthey found that the most wanted sperm was bill's Mar 30 13:42
schestowitz-TRdon't ask me whyMar 30 13:42
mateyweirdMar 30 13:42
schestowitz-TRand I find that disgustingMar 30 13:42
schestowitz-TRbut ever since the epstein thing and rick allen jones arrest it never seemed (or seamed) the sameMar 30 13:43
schestowitz-TRand I don't even want to think about it tbh...Mar 30 13:43
schestowitz-TRbut the media shouldMar 30 13:43
schestowitz-TRthe US law enforcement shouldMar 30 13:43
mateythe le always work for the richMar 30 13:43
schestowitz-TRlet's encryptMar 30 13:43
schestowitz-TRLEMar 30 13:44
schestowitz-TRlet's encrypt = law enfoircementMar 30 13:44
mateyit doesnt matter what the guy on the beat does, its the organisation he works for that mattersMar 30 13:44
schestowitz-TRthat's a funny oneMar 30 13:44
schestowitz-TRI trust the CA of LEMar 30 13:44
schestowitz-TRLaw EnforcementMar 30 13:44
schestowitz-TR /sarcasm  maybe LE is CODE for something.....  wwwwwwwwwhoooooooooMar 30 13:44
mateylittle entertainmentMar 30 13:45
mateyyou know regardless of what the findings wereMar 30 13:45
schestowitz-TRwell, you see.Mar 30 13:45
mateythe idea of doing a survey in china to find out what sperm is the most wantedMar 30 13:45
mateythats a really weird survey to begin withMar 30 13:45
schestowitz-TRthat's where "Court of public opinion" helpsMar 30 13:45
schestowitz-TRIBM lawsuits were droppedMar 30 13:45
schestowitz-TRbut IBM remained scarred Mar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRby its pastMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRand FB loses many usersaMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRAND admits thisMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRat long lastMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRTwitter also admits faking its reachMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRand paid a lot to settle with shareholders after they had suedMar 30 13:46
mateythis does not read like a cbs articleMar 30 13:46
mateyGates Grant to Fund Testicle-Blasting Contraceptive - CBS NewsMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRso even without LE we can get a little justiceMar 30 13:46
mateyarticle <- title Mar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRand, if we get popcorn, a little entertainmentMar 30 13:46
schestowitz-TRmatey: it's so effective you end up with a voice like Bill's!Mar 30 13:47
schestowitz-TRrianne is always bemused by his voiceMar 30 13:47
schestowitz-TR"mouse"Mar 30 13:47
matey foreignpolicy.com/2007/07/30/the-sperm-donors-chinese-women-want-most/ Mar 30 13:48
schestowitz-TRslow down, ladiesMar 30 13:49
schestowitz-TRget your jar readyMar 30 13:49
schestowitz-TRfor the "rich people"Mar 30 13:49
mateyim guessing this is a right-wing news siteMar 30 13:50
mateyits the only hit i found with the story Mar 30 13:50
schestowitz-TRnoMar 30 13:50
mateyThe Slate GroupMar 30 13:50
schestowitz-TRit';s corporatist siteMar 30 13:50
schestowitz-TRand imperialistMar 30 13:51
schestowitz-TRbut not right/leftMar 30 13:51
mateyThe creation of The Slate Group was announced by Donald Graham, the chairman and CEO of The Washington Post Company, in a press release on June 4, 2008.Mar 30 13:51
mateyhmmMar 30 13:51
mateyst siteMar 30 13:51
matey#techrights : 03/30/22 12:51 <schestowitz-TR> <- just the logo made me think it was right wingMar 30 13:51
matey and imperialist <- meant to point to thisMar 30 13:52
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mateyi consider imperialist right wing, but point takenMar 30 13:52
schestowitz-TRimperialism is not right wing (anymore)Mar 30 13:52
schestowitz-TRsee BlairMar 30 13:52
mateythats because the "left" is imperialist (but i still think thats)Mar 30 13:53
mateyi used to call him tory blairMar 30 13:53
schestowitz-TRB'LiarMar 30 13:53
mateyrms i thinkMar 30 13:53
schestowitz-TRrms called his mate Gordon ClownMar 30 13:53
schestowitz-TRWhat's his uptime?Mar 30 13:54
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psydruid> though quite a lot of people during bush ii were asking the rest of the world to please invadeMar 30 14:00
psydruidhave some people lost all hope in the country's "leadership"?Mar 30 14:00
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mateythe usa is largely dividedMar 30 14:01
mateyit used to be part of the presidents job to bring the country together including those who didnt vote for themMar 30 14:02
mateynot to run it like two different countries, with one in charge of the other during a termMar 30 14:02
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mateynow the latter imo describes the way america is "managed"Mar 30 14:02
mateyi say "managed" rather then "run" because the former implies a lot of it is image-basedMar 30 14:03
mateyimage managementMar 30 14:03
mateywhich describes contemporary politics better than "running a country" doesMar 30 14:03
mateyno matter who you vote for, you always get the kardashiansMar 30 14:03
mateyits a television-based regimeMar 30 14:04
schestowitz-TRthe us is dividedMar 30 14:04
schestowitz-TR22 millionairesMar 30 14:04
schestowitz-TR250,000,000-300,000,000 poor peopleMar 30 14:04
schestowitz-TRand a few left in betweenMar 30 14:04
schestowitz-TRputting their savings in Wall StreetMar 30 14:05
matey22 millionaires <- i dated one of themMar 30 14:05
mateyim sure you didnt mean 22 millionairesMar 30 14:05
schestowitz-TRbecause the interest in the bank is sub $wall street will each them next Mar 30 14:05
schestowitz-TRand then celebrate another 1 million millionaires and a thousand billionairesMar 30 14:05
schestowitz-TRtheir media, like washpo, will write about "Difficult People" pooing on pavementsMar 30 14:06
schestowitz-TR22 million millionairesMar 30 14:06
schestowitz-TRit's hard to type thatMar 30 14:06
mateyyeah im not giving you shit about typosMar 30 14:06
mateybut i didnt know what you meantMar 30 14:06
schestowitzhttps://usdebtclock.org/Mar 30 14:07
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schestowitztotal us debt 89 trillionMar 30 14:07
schestowitz22 trillion personal debtMar 30 14:07
mateytheir media, like washpo, will write about "Difficult People" pooing on pavements <- at least they dont poo on peoples doorsteps, like wapo doesMar 30 14:07
matey/me used to call it "the washington compost"Mar 30 14:08
schestowitzgdp 24 trillionMar 30 14:08
schestowitznational debt 30+Mar 30 14:08
mateythey did have a legacy of good reportingMar 30 14:08
mateyits just they were long past that by the time jeff bought themMar 30 14:08
mateyno, other jeffMar 30 14:08
schestowitzit says 22.11 million millionairesMar 30 14:09
schestowitzbut not sure how they define thatMar 30 14:09
schestowitza million in assetsMar 30 14:09
schestowitzin bankMar 30 14:09
mateyin assets im sureMar 30 14:09
schestowitzdo kids of a millionaire parent countMar 30 14:09
schestowitzwhat if divorced?Mar 30 14:09
mateynoMar 30 14:09
mateykids that dont have a million in their own account would not countMar 30 14:10
mateyoutside of people magazineMar 30 14:10
schestowitzanyway, US will have more billioanireMar 30 14:10
schestowitzuntil SHTFMar 30 14:11
schestowitzthen they will move elsewhereMar 30 14:11
schestowitzlike NZMar 30 14:11
mateyor an alice cooper albumMar 30 14:11
schestowitzthey already got the dual/passport/naturalisation goingMar 30 14:11
schestowitzlike SyprusMar 30 14:11
schestowitzCyprusMar 30 14:11
*bnchs (~bnchs@st38abnxc6jjg.irc) has joined #techrightsMar 30 14:11
schestowitzthe latest:Mar 30 14:11
schestowitzhttps://www.vox.com/recode/2020/11/9/21547055/eric-schmidt-google-citizen-cyprus-european-unionMar 30 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus - VoxMar 30 14:11
schestowitzhttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/eric-schmidt-reportedly-applied-to-become-a-citizen-of-cyprus.htmlMar 30 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Eric Schmidt reportedly applied to become a citizen of CyprusMar 30 14:11
schestowitzalso popular among russian "oligarchs"Mar 30 14:12
mateydid they reject the application?Mar 30 14:12
schestowitz-TRthey would notMar 30 14:13
schestowitz-TRthey need thatMar 30 14:13
mateyi wouldnt think soMar 30 14:13
bnchshey schestowitzMar 30 14:13
schestowitz-TRcyprus is an oddball economyMar 30 14:13
bnchsyou're gonna love thisMar 30 14:13
bnchshttps://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpgMar 30 14:13
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*psydruid applies for citizenship of cypress hillMar 30 14:14
schestowitz-TRbnchs: what is this shit?Mar 30 14:14
schestowitz-TRsaid the toilet seatMar 30 14:14
mateyhttps://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpg <- are the pipes backed up or is the server just downMar 30 14:15
schestowitz-TRiirc, cyprus has 3 international airportsMar 30 14:15
schestowitz-TRnot too far apart from each otherMar 30 14:16
matey<psydruid> ACTION applies for citizenship of cypress hill <- cant think of the country without thinking of the band eitherMar 30 14:16
schestowitz-TRI even took taxi from one to another, due to almost missing a planeMar 30 14:16
mateytaxi! take me to the airport! "but we are already here"Mar 30 14:16
bnchsmatey: well when the servers go down, it will be funMar 30 14:16
schestowitz-TRbnchs: "oh shit"Mar 30 14:16
bnchspeople unable to flush their toilets because the smart toilet sms server stopped working Mar 30 14:17
matey"i shouldnt have eaten all that pasta, im gonna ddos my lotus tomorrow!"Mar 30 14:17
*schestowitz-TR installs skype, microsoft gets list of contacts and "call" historyMar 30 14:17
schestowitz-TR(shit historyMar 30 14:17
matey/me mark z Likes ThisMar 30 14:18
schestowitz-TR"user also liked..."Mar 30 14:18
bnchssmart toilet is the future nowMar 30 14:19
mateyLotus ATS-1000 is designed to provide you with unprecedented comfort in your daily toilet routine. The special Pure Stream function effectively helps to relieve constipation.Mar 30 14:19
schestowitz-TRbnchs: where does it go if you reply to the SMS? Wait, don't tell me...Mar 30 14:19
mateywow.Mar 30 14:19
schestowitz-TR(right in the shitlist)Mar 30 14:19
mateyso its a smart toilet with built-in enema.Mar 30 14:20
bnchswait what?Mar 30 14:20
mateyill get you the poo rlMar 30 14:20
mateyquote was from here https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lotus-Smart-Hygiene-Seat-ATS-1000-Advanced-Smart-Electric-Bidet-Seat-for-Elongated-Toilets-with-Remote-in-White-ATS-1000L/303396094Mar 30 14:20
bnchsthe toilets gonna start blasting your assMar 30 14:20
schestowitz-TRsee? "luxury" itemsMar 30 14:20
schestowitz-TRlikle bidetMar 30 14:21
bnchsmaybe a little orgasmMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRgold-plated bidenMar 30 14:21
mateythis is not the first toilet ive heard about with its own bidetMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRwith 3 cameras in itMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRto cover all anglesMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TR*bidetMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRlolMar 30 14:21
mateyrich people anglesMar 30 14:21
bnchslol 3 camerasMar 30 14:21
bnchsgonna get careful look at your ass and dickMar 30 14:21
bnchssending pics to gulagMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRfor caliberationMar 30 14:21
bnchsclownMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRit needs to triangulateMar 30 14:21
schestowitz-TRstereovision tooMar 30 14:22
schestowitz-TRand one spareMar 30 14:22
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schestowitz-TRthere was parody about this in gulagtubeMar 30 14:22
schestowitz-TRwaitMar 30 14:22
bnchssmart toiletMar 30 14:22
bnchswant to shit real badMar 30 14:22
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bnchsshits out a big dumpMar 30 14:22
bnchsflushesMar 30 14:23
bnchs"please verify before flushing"Mar 30 14:23
bnchsi remember i changed phone numbersMar 30 14:23
mateyno ones joked about a toilet that takes selfies yet?Mar 30 14:23
schestowitz-TRI see lots of parodiesMar 30 14:23
schestowitz-TRcannot remember which one I saw about 5 years agoMar 30 14:23
mateyi mean why just tweet what youve eaten BEFORE you eat itMar 30 14:23
mateysometimes its more impressive laterMar 30 14:23
bnchsorginial source:Mar 30 14:24
bnchshttps://nitter.net/atdanwhite/status/1508578360217292802Mar 30 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Dan White (@atdanwhite): "Does anyone know how to turn off two-factor authentication on their Lotus SmartToilet? Driving me insane." | nitterMar 30 14:24
schestowitzMAYBE this: Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ Mar 30 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - InvidiousMar 30 14:24
bnchsadult swim parody comes trueMar 30 14:25
schestowitzGuy Martin Tries Out a Japanese Toilet? - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=e767uc1aBJo Mar 30 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Guy Martin Tries Out a Japanese Toilet? - InvidiousMar 30 14:25
schestowitzWhy You Need to Try a High-Tech Japanese Toilet - Invidious โš“ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GZRwI7m7gnwMar 30 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Why You Need to Try a High-Tech Japanese Toilet - InvidiousMar 30 14:26
mateyits not difficult to understand why kurt vonnegut killed himselfMar 30 14:26
mateythis is the sort of thing he was trying to avoidMar 30 14:26
techrights-news10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163142Mar 30 14:26
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bnchsa toilet does 1 job and it does it goodMar 30 14:27
mateyunix philosophy!Mar 30 14:27
bnchsyou want smart toilet, go use toiletdMar 30 14:27
schestowitz-TRhaving electronics there might be 'OK'Mar 30 14:27
schestowitz-TRBiden need not be evil, eitherMar 30 14:27
mateysome people think it should have never been extended to cover #2 and they should have used a different tool for the jobMar 30 14:27
schestowitz-TRthe issue isn't the technofascismMar 30 14:27
schestowitz-TRbut the connection of it to other thingsMar 30 14:27
schestowitz-TRlike "smart" sex toysMar 30 14:27
schestowitz-TRand all those "wearable" thingsMar 30 14:28
bnchssmart sex toys?Mar 30 14:28
bnchsholy shitMar 30 14:28
mateytoiletd-- now also has a sink for handwashingMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRinternet-connectedMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRthey send stats and stuffMar 30 14:28
mateyand a toothbrush holderMar 30 14:28
mateyand a bathtubMar 30 14:28
bnchsi've actually seen a free software driver for.....Mar 30 14:28
bnchssex toysMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRelectroric toothbrush fineMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRnot for me but fineMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRI use electric shaver againMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRdue to cost of gas nowMar 30 14:28
schestowitz-TRbut the shaver does not need to connect to anything like a routerMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRit can also run on batteriesMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRjust need power to rotateMar 30 14:29
matey<schestowitz-TR> like "smart" sex toys <schestowitz-TR> and all those "wearable" things <- and wearble sex toysMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRa microwave needs to have power to heatMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRand that's heatMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRmaybe a clockMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRand that's itMar 30 14:29
bnchsmatey: people unironically wear soy toysMar 30 14:29
schestowitz-TRmy mind went there for a secMar 30 14:30
mateyclock makes sense because-- leaving a microwave on until you turn it off is a bad ideaMar 30 14:30
bnchsi means ex toysMar 30 14:30
mateyovens have clocks tooMar 30 14:30
schestowitz-TRor you can use fire alarrm as a clockMar 30 14:30
schestowitz-TRor smoke alarmMar 30 14:30
schestowitz-TRthat works tooMar 30 14:30
matey<bnchs> matey: people unironically wear soy toys <- some are meant to be used that wayMar 30 14:30
schestowitz-TRbut the food doesn't taste goodMar 30 14:30
schestowitz-TRit's also more hassleMar 30 14:30
schestowitz-TRif you can get back in thereMar 30 14:30
bnchsi need a smart ovenMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRzbtw, today's "smart" kitchen appliances Mar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRwould not work wellMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRbad testingMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRremote updates Mar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRbreaking thingsMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TReven basics like the clockMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRthey will ship fastMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRwithout testingMar 30 14:31
matey/me has a smart panMar 30 14:31
schestowitz-TRcausing house fires and ruinMar 30 14:31
mateywhen you put it on the burner, it gets hotMar 30 14:32
mateyhow does it know?Mar 30 14:32
bnchssmart oven doing endian conversion Mar 30 14:32
schestowitz-TR"just keep the oven on "OTA" updates"Mar 30 14:32
mateywhen you take it off the burner, it cools off automatically!Mar 30 14:32
bnchs"setting tempurate to 12388495ยฐC"Mar 30 14:32
mateytechnology is amazingMar 30 14:32
schestowitz-TRthe likelihood of things breaking will increaseMar 30 14:32
schestowitz-TRinc. basicsMar 30 14:32
schestowitz-TRairplanes try to separate steering from infotainmentMar 30 14:32
schestowitz-TRbut for cost-savings that's no longer trueMar 30 14:33
schestowitz-TRso passenger can hijack the whole planeMar 30 14:33
schestowitz-TRand even steer itMar 30 14:33
schestowitz-TR(happened)Mar 30 14:33
mateythats why pilots should never share their account password with passengersMar 30 14:33
schestowitz-TRbnchs: press "Report Bug"Mar 30 14:33
schestowitz-TR"this incident will be reported."Mar 30 14:33
bnchsnow just imagine someone using the oven to cook something illegalMar 30 14:34
matey/me tried to use bug report onceMar 30 14:34
bnchsor its smoking or some shitMar 30 14:34
schestowitz-TRbnchs: like porkMar 30 14:34
mateyi thought they were going to come kill itMar 30 14:34
bnchsyeah porkMar 30 14:34
schestowitz-TR"it looks like you are a cooking a dog"Mar 30 14:34
mateythey just told me to upgrade to the latest versionMar 30 14:34
bnchs"haram food detected. this incident will be reported to ISIS"Mar 30 14:34
schestowitz-TRoven: "oh, never mind, you have a chinese ip address. never mind , bon appetie"Mar 30 14:34
mateyi told them i didnt want to upgrade it, i wanted to uninstall itMar 30 14:35
bnchs"geolocation reported to nearest Islamic State fighters"Mar 30 14:35
schestowitz-TRbnchs: if you live in afghanistanMar 30 14:35
schestowitz-TRand then the taliban takes overMar 30 14:35
schestowitz-TRand raids the Oven Inc. companyMar 30 14:35
schestowitz-TRfot server logsMar 30 14:36
mateyiot = internet of talibanMar 30 14:36
psydruidlolMar 30 14:36
schestowitz-TRmatey: don\t make funMar 30 14:36
bnchsits more likeMar 30 14:36
schestowitz-TR"this incident will be reported."Mar 30 14:36
schestowitz-TR"I kill you@@"Mar 30 14:36
bnchsthe taliban will find the source code of the oven firmwareMar 30 14:36
bnchsand modify it to report haram foodMar 30 14:36
bnchsand then send the "update"Mar 30 14:36
schestowitz-TRit'll be sent in batchesMar 30 14:37
schestowitz-TRovernightMar 30 14:37
schestowitz-TRto throw reverse engineers off the scentMar 30 14:37
schestowitz-TRthat's what gulag does with androidMar 30 14:37
schestowitz-TRmaybe other devices like nestMar 30 14:37
schestowitz-TR"to improve your experience"Mar 30 14:37
schestowitz-TR"to improve your battery life"Mar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRwe send in patchesMar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRaggregated "BIG DATA"Mar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRsome dataMar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRnothiong fancyMar 30 14:38
mateypatches? Mar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRjust dataMar 30 14:38
mateypatches?Mar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRit's just "meta" anywayMar 30 14:38
mateywe dont need no steenking patchesMar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRnothing personalMar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRiPatchMar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TR(eye patch)Mar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRsinatra stuffed his head in the oven Mar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRat least onceMar 30 14:38
schestowitz-TRthe oven wasn't smart enoughMar 30 14:39
schestowitz-TRalexa did not listenMar 30 14:39
bnchswhat ifMar 30 14:39
mateythey got under his skinMar 30 14:39
bnchsthe taliban got access to alexa firmware source code and the update serversMar 30 14:39
schestowitz-TRmatey: well done, well doneMar 30 14:39
schestowitz-TRand now the end is nearMar 30 14:39
mateythats lifeMar 30 14:40
schestowitz-TRbnchs: maybe all those echos in afghanistan will come in handyMar 30 14:40
schestowitz-TRit has long been said these devices will turn sour in the "wrong" handsMar 30 14:40
bnchstaliban driving with a speaker vanMar 30 14:40
schestowitz-TRof course the pentagon and its privatised offshots are also "wrong" handsMar 30 14:40
schestowitz-TRbnchs: to detect people who  - gasp - listen to musicMar 30 14:41
mateyits "my way" or the huaweiMar 30 14:41
bnchsyes music is haramMar 30 14:41
schestowitz-TRor detect faces if femalesMar 30 14:41
schestowitz-TRnot coveredMar 30 14:41
bnchs"ALEXA, WHAT DOES MY SHOPPING CART HAVE"Mar 30 14:41
mateynative americans used to say that a camera would steal your soulMar 30 14:42
mateythey were off by at least a hundred years, but stillMar 30 14:42
matey"to be fair, we had never heard of a phone camera"Mar 30 14:42
schestowitz-TRstealing my photonsMar 30 14:42
schestowitz-TRthe clown doesMar 30 14:42
schestowitz-TRthe cloudMar 30 14:43
schestowitz-TRand the clownMar 30 14:43
matey"or a smart bidet"Mar 30 14:43
schestowitz-TRor smart bidenMar 30 14:43
mateyenjoy your flushMar 30 14:43
schestowitz-TRluck be a ladyMar 30 14:43
bnchs"warning. blood detected in toilet"Mar 30 14:44
bnchs"this incident will be reported"Mar 30 14:44
bnchs"flushing disabled"Mar 30 14:44
techrights-newsWhatโ€™s new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Beta โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163143Mar 30 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Beta | Tux MachinesMar 30 14:44
matey/me is waiting for the iphone to be replaced with a seashellMar 30 14:45
MinceRi already had a Seashell, it was an EeePC model :>Mar 30 14:45
mateybut what did the other 2 do?Mar 30 14:45
techrights-newsLinux Mint Cinnamon vs MATE: Which One To Choose? โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163144Mar 30 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Cinnamon vs MATE: Which One To Choose? | Tux MachinesMar 30 14:46
MinceRi only had oneMar 30 14:46
MinceRactually i think the name was that of the design, probably the second EeePC design they hadMar 30 14:46
schestowitz-TRenjoy your microphone with a BOOTLOADERMar 30 14:46
schestowitz-TRand microwave, tooMar 30 14:47
mateyGNU Typist is currently being maintained by Mihai Gฤƒtejescu <- thats kind of meanMar 30 14:47
schestowitz-TRcoming soon: bootloader on your covid-10 disposable test kitMar 30 14:47
MinceRlol @ microwave scareMar 30 14:47
schestowitz-TRsome disposable test kids come with a full electric circuitMar 30 14:47
matey"im learning how to type with this software, who can i thank?"Mar 30 14:47
schestowitz-TRthrown away after one useMar 30 14:47
matey"Mihai Gฤƒtejescu" Mar 30 14:47
matey"you know maybe ill just learn the piano"Mar 30 14:48
bnchsmihaiMar 30 14:48
bnchsgate jes cuMar 30 14:48
bnchsi dont understandMar 30 14:48
schestowitz-TR"wait, I cannot cook the meal yet, the microwave is rebooting and after the upgrade it has systemd"Mar 30 14:48
schestowitz-TR(I also hook up external screen to the microwave)Mar 30 14:49
matey/me thanks lennart for turning every instance of "system" in the world to a typoMar 30 14:49
schestowitz-TR(don't ask... wayland compatibility issues with the onboard screen)Mar 30 14:49
bnchsMicrosoftยฎ MicrowaveยฎMar 30 14:49
bnchsUpdating.... 0% Please don't shutdown the microwaveMar 30 14:49
matey/me flips the clock on his microwave around to convert it to tablet/hicachi modeMar 30 14:50
schestowitz-TRnew onboard screen would cost more than a new microwave of the same kindMar 30 14:50
schestowitz-TRthe external screen has 4 USB ports, but I don't use them...Mar 30 14:50
mateyits actually hibachi mode, but this is a cheap knockoffMar 30 14:50
schestowitz-TRand it uses HDMIMar 30 14:50
schestowitz-TRso it has a speaker there tooMar 30 14:50
schestowitz-TRnow I can amplify the sound of the fryingMar 30 14:51
mateytoiletd now has its own microwaveMar 30 14:51
mateydont fucking ask me whyMar 30 14:51
schestowitz-TR"my microwave keeps asking for the wifi password"Mar 30 14:51
schestowitz-TRit says something "DHCP" after the latest OTA updateMar 30 14:52
schestowitz-TRso I can only cook in "basic" modeMar 30 14:52
schestowitz-TRand "defrost"Mar 30 14:53
schestowitz-TR"oh well..."Mar 30 14:53
schestowitz-TR"at least it's smart"Mar 30 14:53
mateyoh hey, github is doing a captchaMar 30 14:53
mateynieMar 30 14:53
schestowitz-TRtor?Mar 30 14:54
mateyyeahMar 30 14:54
schestowitz-TRyou are the lucky oMar 30 14:54
schestowitz-TR*oneMar 30 14:54
mateyi told it im not actually from the netherlands and it let me through :)Mar 30 14:54
schestowitz-TRif you hosted a site there, it would just say "site offline"Mar 30 14:54
bnchssubscriptionsMar 30 14:54
matey^ mincerMar 30 14:54
bnchsschestowitz-TR: imagine smart toilet subscriptionMar 30 14:54
bnchspay for 10 flushes per month for 50$Mar 30 14:54
schestowitz-TRhow much is biden mode per month?Mar 30 14:54
schestowitz-TRI don't want to be "loo pirate|"Mar 30 14:55
schestowitz-TRlike toyota with the keyfob thingMar 30 14:55
schestowitz-TRpay extra to start the car as you approach it? That's a monthly feeMar 30 14:55
schestowitz-TR /s/biden/bidet/Mar 30 14:55
schestowitz-TRI keep making that typoMar 30 14:55
matey/me was trying to view a developer in bucharest, but couldnt because it thought i was budapestMar 30 14:55
mateygotta love the new internetMar 30 14:56
schestowitz-TRbut when the president has such shit ratring I cannot be blamedMar 30 14:56
bnchsschestowitz-TR: you think thats bad?Mar 30 14:57
techrights-newsBut Microsoft's OWN criminals have NOT been arrested. Nor have the Microsofters who left these holes open. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqLZOlN9xrEMar 30 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bqLZOlN9xrEMar 30 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Nvidia & Microsoft Hackers Now Arrested & Doxxed - InvidiousMar 30 14:57
bnchsremember when i had to pay 10$ to unlock my frontdoor so i can go home?Mar 30 14:57
bnchsor go outMar 30 14:58
bnchs*cutaway*Mar 30 14:58
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techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–†โ–โ–ƒโ–‡โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–…โ–โ–‚โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–โ–…โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–„โ–‚โ–โ–…โ–…โ–ƒโ–…โ–„โ–„โ–โ– avg(k/sec) 19.60 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–ˆโ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–ƒโ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 104.58โ–• swarm size (avg): 372.46  โŸฒMar 30 14:59
schestowitz-TRbnchs: the future..Mar 30 14:59
schestowitz-TRor presentMar 30 14:59
schestowitz-TRhard to keep track anymoreMar 30 14:59
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163145Mar 30 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 30 15:00
bnchsyou think THATS bad?????Mar 30 15:00
bnchsremember when i got sick of it, and decided to smash the door openMar 30 15:00
bnchsand the incident got reported and i got arrestedMar 30 15:00
techrights-newsAntitrust abuses by Microsoft criminals https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/microsoft_browser_choice/Mar 30 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft moves to 1-click default browser change โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 15:00
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techrights-newsThey keep doing this. The criminals who keep doing this (also bribing officials) never get prosecuted and arrested. Instead they bribe the media, inc. The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001277/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-new-optionsMar 30 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11 - The VergeMar 30 15:02
techrights-newsDo we have a cracker problem or a back doors problem? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAMar 30 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsMar 30 15:03
bnchslolMar 30 15:03
bnchsmicrosoft is finally making it "easier" to switch default browsers in windows 11Mar 30 15:04
bnchs*-10% easierMar 30 15:04
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-14.jpgMar 30 15:05
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techrights-newsRolling Rhino: A rolling-release remix of Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163034#comment-33236Mar 30 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino | Tux MachinesMar 30 15:05
schestowitz-TRbnchs: microsoft *clap clap* crackers caughtMar 30 15:05
schestowitz-TRafter exploiting our back doorsMar 30 15:05
schestowitz-TRbnchs: microsoft *clap clap* we stopped shipping malwareMar 30 15:05
schestowitz-TRafter blaming "open source" (brandon)Mar 30 15:06
schestowitz-TRTHANK YOU, Microsoft!Mar 30 15:06
bnchsyesMar 30 15:06
bnchsthey like to stage shit for PR stuntsMar 30 15:06
bnchsevery company doesMar 30 15:06
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psydruidas if anything is going to save them anymoreMar 30 15:19
psydruidthey probably lost so many users to all of this bs that they couldn't do anything other than "condone" setting another browser as the default in one placeMar 30 15:20
schestowitz-TRantitrust action is business riskMar 30 15:21
schestowitz-TRhistorically, when Microsoft wilkl trying to dodge heavy finesMar 30 15:21
schestowitz-TRit was spinning it in the media as an act of goodwillMar 30 15:22
schestowitz-TRone example uis Samba/SMBMar 30 15:22
schestowitz-TRand then people like Me. NON-secure bootMar 30 15:22
schestowitz-TRwould help them spin that, tooMar 30 15:22
schestowitz-TRor microsoft 'support' for ODFMar 30 15:22
schestowitz-TRwhich is bogusMar 30 15:22
schestowitz-TRand was designed to advance their OOXML agendaMar 30 15:22
techrights-news"former IBM data scientist, has sued Big Blue for gender discrimination and retaliation after he complained that he was not being offered the same family leave options available to his women colleagues." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ibm_equality_lawsuit/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#AgeismMar 30 15:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Axed IBM scientist sues over alleged gender discrimination โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - TechrightsMar 30 15:27
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163146Mar 30 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 30 15:27
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techrights-newsEmuDeck makes emulation on Steam Deck nice and simple | GamingOnLinux โš“ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/emudeck-makes-emulation-on-steam-deck-nice-and-simple/ ไท‰ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | GamesMar 30 15:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EmuDeck makes emulation on Steam Deck nice and simple | GamingOnLinuxMar 30 15:29
techrights-news"RetroArch, the very popular application front-end for emulators and more has a new release out and it includes better support for the Steam Deck. The improvements benefit all Steam users of course but, for the Steam Deck especially, it's awesome." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/retroarch-gets-big-steam-deck-improvements/Mar 30 15:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroArch gets big Steam Deck improvements | GamingOnLinuxMar 30 15:30
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-23.jpgMar 30 15:37
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techrights-newsDennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights โš“ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/Mar 30 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | TechrightsMar 30 15:41
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techrights-newsThe Netherlands needs drug reform (yes, really) gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/30/Marijuana-reform-in-NL.gmiMar 30 15:46
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163147Mar 30 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 30 15:49
techrights-newsThis week Germany will have more confirmed COVID-19 cases than the UK. The survival rate is vastly higher there.Mar 30 15:51
techrights-newsSPAMnil, who ruined LINUX.COM, seems to have broken a new record. 9 videos views in 8 days. I reckon those views are just SPAMnil and his "guest" checking that the video works. GulagTube says he has 22.2k subscribers. I LOL.Mar 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRone per dayMar 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRupon debutMar 30 15:56
schestowitz-TRsort of like linux.comMar 30 15:56
schestowitz-TR50 views a weekMar 30 15:57
schestowitz-TRfor their spamMar 30 15:57
techrights-newsRichard Stallman's impending talk is not listed here https://stallman.org/talks.htmlMar 30 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard StallmanMar 30 15:58
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techrights-newsNo More COVID-19 Testing Kits, But the Numbers Are Soaring, Plague Unresolved http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/30/plague-unresolved/Mar 30 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป No More COVID-19 Testing Kits, But the Numbers Are Soaring, Plague UnresolvedMar 30 16:21
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techrights-newsWasting a Raspberry Pi to promote Microsoft's proprietary vendor lock-in that's in effect an attack on Free software and on Git https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/github_issue_printer/Mar 30 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Dev rigs up receipt printer to spit out GitHub issues โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 16:26
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techrights-news"The modern CIO role has morphed into one that is equal parts technologist, business strategist, and transformational change agent." Mostly buzzwords slinging, no real substance. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/leadership-tips-cios-evolve-digital-strategyMar 30 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 5 leadership tips for CIOs to evolve their digital strategy | The Enterprisers ProjectMar 30 16:27
techrights-newsMore buzzwords salad: "But how do we as leaders cultivate these qualities in our teams and create a culture of resiliency?" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/build-resilient-it-teamMar 30 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Want to build a resilient IT team? Follow this advice | The Enterprisers ProjectMar 30 16:28
techrights-newsICBM is promoting lots of mindless buzzwords https://opensource.com/article/22/3/aqua-security-devsecopsMar 30 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Aqua Security is approaching DevSecOps in 2022 | Opensource.comMar 30 16:32
techrights-newsSeems like a bubble. You don't need a special company for this. HP trying to buy itself an identity https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/hp_buys_poly/Mar 30 16:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | HP buys office-telco firm Poly, in bet on hybrid work trend โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 16:34
XRevan86activelow: Pieskov stated that the transition of payments to rubles is a slow process.Mar 30 16:35
XRevan86activelow: Seems like this went nowhere, who knew.Mar 30 16:35
schestowitz-TRpiesk off!!Mar 30 16:35
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XRevan86It's a mystery why Putin even demanded payment in rubles in the first place. "Compromised currencies" are magic words that I will leave to ะฐctivelow, in reality Russia wants these currencies, and my only hypothesis is that conversion of euros and dollars in Russian banks would help the Russian ruble's exchange rate.Mar 30 16:40
XRevan86I.e. injecting the Russian ruble as a MITM to help it out.Mar 30 16:40
techrights-newsGNUnet 0.16.3 โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163148Mar 30 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNUnet 0.16.3 | Tux MachinesMar 30 16:41
techrights-newsโ€™App Icons Taskbarโ€™ Puts Running Apps in GNOME Shellโ€™s Top Bar โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163149Mar 30 16:41
XRevan86But the existing contracts don't allow that, the buyers aren't willing to bend over, and all Russia can do in that situation is say "okayโ€ฆ"Mar 30 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | โ€™App Icons Taskbarโ€™ Puts Running Apps in GNOME Shellโ€™s Top Bar | Tux MachinesMar 30 16:41
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: the Ruble is shaky like PutinMar 30 16:42
XRevan86Who needs whom more?Mar 30 16:42
XRevan86schestowitz: They employed some weird machinations, and the Russian ruble by the Central Bank exchange rate went down to 83 rubles for a dollar.Mar 30 16:44
techrights-news"While this experience is open for everyone, Igalia expressly invites women (both cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people to apply." Filling quotas. https://blogs.igalia.com/siglesias/2022/03/30/Igalia-Coding-Experience-GSOC-Outreachy-EVoC/Mar 30 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Igalia Coding Experience, GSoC, Outreachy, EVoC - Samuel Iglesias Gonsรกlvez's blogMar 30 16:45
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XRevan86Machinations like limiting foreign currencies' operations in Russia, restricting the stock market, et al.Mar 30 16:45
XRevan86Didn't expect that all this would fly, but evidently it does.Mar 30 16:46
schestowitz-TRdoes trading in USD get you flagged foreign agent?Mar 30 16:46
schestowitz-TRit s de facto martial law in russiaMar 30 16:46
schestowitz-TRtoday I read 15k Russian had died alreadyMar 30 16:46
schestowitz-TRthose are front liners Mar 30 16:46
schestowitz-TRprobably the "better" among combatantsMar 30 16:47
schestowitz-TRwith the best equipmentMar 30 16:47
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schestowitz-TRnot reserves and sparesMar 30 16:47
XRevan86Moving USDs abroad is a legal offence of some kind indeed.Mar 30 16:47
XRevan86https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://rbc.ru/finances/30/03/2022/624441a49a79475c35453a44 check this out.Mar 30 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-rbc-ru.translate.goog | ะฆะ‘ ั€ะตะบะพะผะตะฝะดะพะฒะฐะป ะฑะฐะฝะบะฐะผ ั€ะฐะทะฝั‹ะต ะบัƒั€ัั‹ ะดะปั ะธะผะฟะพั€ั‚ะตั€ะพะฒ ะธ ะพัั‚ะฐะปัŒะฝั‹ั… ะบะพะผะฟะฐะฝะธะน โ€” ะ ะ‘ะšMar 30 16:47
XRevan86> The Central Bank recommended different rates to banks for importers and other companiesMar 30 16:47
schestowitz-TRUS gov: let's sanction RussiansMar 30 16:48
schestowitz-TRUK gov: let's sanction RussiansMar 30 16:48
schestowitz-TREU govs: let's sanction RussiansMar 30 16:48
schestowitz-TRRussian gov: let's sanction RussiansMar 30 16:48
XRevan86Ye're not wrong.Mar 30 16:49
schestowitz-TRfunnt thing is this:Mar 30 16:49
schestowitz-TRmedia mentions putin and russia interchangeablyMar 30 16:49
schestowitz-TRwhile highlighting putin being a dictatorMar 30 16:50
XRevan86Even I do that.Mar 30 16:50
schestowitz-TRif he's a dictator, then he lacks the consent of russiaMar 30 16:50
schestowitz-TRso why assume russia=putin?Mar 30 16:50
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schestowitz-TRlook at EPOMar 30 16:51
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schestowitz-TRwe do not assume patent examiners are managementMar 30 16:51
schestowitz-TRor that they support Team UPCMar 30 16:51
XRevan86Well, the current lines of thought don't really account for dictatorships of this calibre.Mar 30 16:51
schestowitz-TRso we help them attack the management and it worksMar 30 16:51
XRevan86Late USSR was a lot more liberal than what Russia has now.Mar 30 16:52
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XRevan86Also we live in the times when a dictator can literally rule the country from a bunker.Mar 30 16:53
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schestowitz-TRhe has a palace, no?Mar 30 16:54
schestowitz-TRPutin's palanceMar 30 16:54
schestowitz-TRand subsMar 30 16:54
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XRevan86It's under reconstruction.Mar 30 16:54
schestowitz-TRheh, maybe he'll make a palace inside a sub, tooMar 30 16:55
schestowitz-TRjust to keep safeMar 30 16:55
schestowitz-TR"lay low, Vlad"Mar 30 16:55
XRevan86He never actually lived there.Mar 30 16:55
schestowitz-TRHe's Putin some new stuff in thereMar 30 16:55
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XRevan86The original (super expensive of course) design had flawed ventilation and the palace molded.Mar 30 16:56
techrights-newsโ€œDennis is a free software game developer in his spare time.โ€ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/Mar 30 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | TechrightsMar 30 16:56
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163151Mar 30 16:57
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schestowitz-TRMinceR: better than humansMar 30 17:02
XRevan86Also a lot of previous understandings of how the Russian rulership works flew out of the window when it became evident that the Russian "elite" can suffer huge losses and still do nothing.Mar 30 17:02
schestowitz-TRsame in the WestMar 30 17:02
schestowitz-TRthis is not a Russian problemMar 30 17:03
schestowitz-TRRussia just has it tooMar 30 17:03
schestowitz-TRWhat ELSE could it do?Mar 30 17:03
schestowitz-TRthe oligarchs don't have nukesMar 30 17:04
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schestowitz-TRthey rely on the Army being on their side tooMar 30 17:04
MinceR30 180234 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: better than humansMar 30 17:04
MinceRindeedMar 30 17:04
schestowitz-TRthat's why you post pussy pics (cat pics)Mar 30 17:04
schestowitz-TRbigs cats love humansMar 30 17:05
XRevan86Looks like Putin can do *anything* and don't have this authority threatened. Even absolute monarchs of the past didn't have that luxury.Mar 30 17:05
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft loves linuxMar 30 17:05
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: trump fell out of favourMar 30 17:06
XRevan86But maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.Mar 30 17:06
schestowitz-TRthe oligarchs found another salesmanMar 30 17:06
schestowitz-TRhe tried to stage a coupMar 30 17:06
schestowitz-TRand failedMar 30 17:06
schestowitz-TRmilitary did not follow, eitherMar 30 17:06
schestowitz-TRbut he will retryMar 30 17:06
XRevan86Trump is too stupid to be successful.Mar 30 17:07
techrights-newsGParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152Mar 30 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux MachinesMar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRhe contributes to harm to the oligarchs at one pointMar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRbeccause the salesmanship was poorMar 30 17:07
XRevan86Also not lucky enough.Mar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRlike the tax cutsMar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRBiden does the sameMar 30 17:07
XRevan86Putin was a man at the right place at the right time.Mar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRwithout enraging people as muchMar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRso he is still holding the reignMar 30 17:07
schestowitz-TRRussia should be rich like South KoreaMar 30 17:08
schestowitz-TRsame for North KoreaMar 30 17:08
schestowitz-TRbut they have a very shitty systemMar 30 17:08
XRevan86s/should be/could have been/Mar 30 17:08
schestowitz-TRfwiw, usa moved in the same directionMar 30 17:09
schestowitz-TRuk going there more slowlyMar 30 17:09
schestowitz-TR(than usa)Mar 30 17:09
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XRevan86"same in the West" <- No.Mar 30 17:19
XRevan86Russia doesn't have power of the oligarchs or power of one political party, that would've been half-bad.Mar 30 17:19
XRevan86What it has is power by one unchecked unhinged man.Mar 30 17:20
XRevan86Trump tried to go against everyone else, and failed miserably.Mar 30 17:20
XRevan86That's not an example of the US being similiar to Russia, the opposite in fact.Mar 30 17:21
XRevan86Russia's economy hasn't collapsed yet though, so it's possible that the most interesting developments await us in the future.Mar 30 17:31
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psydruidI was told Yeltsin not only recommended Putin but even appointed him, which he later came to regretMar 30 17:35
MinceRhttps://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2129.htmlMar 30 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & DroidsMar 30 17:36
XRevan86"which he later came to regret" <- Never heard that.Mar 30 17:36
psydruidI was wondering about that tooMar 30 17:37
XRevan86psydruid: Are ye sure ye didn't mean Berezovsky?Mar 30 17:37
psydruidXRevan86, someone told me in some other chat, but that part of Russian history is a bit unclear to me, so I don't really know who is who apart from Yeltsin and Putin (and some others like Medvedev and Lebedev)Mar 30 17:39
XRevan86psydruid: Berezovsky is an oligarch that recommended Putin to Yeltsin and funded his party and campaign.Mar 30 17:40
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XRevan86But after the election he quickly moved into opposition to Putin.Mar 30 17:41
mateyXRevan86 the mitm theory is good, its half the reason usa went back to iraqMar 30 17:41
mateyyou can have the oil, we just want it enumerated in dollars pleaseMar 30 17:41
kingoffrance"Trump tried to go against everyone else, and failed miserably."  subjectively.  objectively pure idolatry  "love your country with all your heart, all your soul".   he was 100% protect the oligarchy, they are put there by "god".  monarchy on the lee planMar 30 17:42
kingoffranceit was entirely the "image" of an outsiderMar 30 17:42
mateytrump is the image of an extraterrestrialMar 30 17:42
mateyas a cover, he hates illegal "aliens"Mar 30 17:43
XRevan86psydruid: "I was told X not only recommended Putin but even appointed him, which he later came to regret" <- I.e. this can be true if X is Boris Berezovsky.Mar 30 17:43
kingoffrancemodern major extraterrestrialMar 30 17:43
mateythe very model of aMar 30 17:43
kingoffrance:)Mar 30 17:43
kingoffrancei know! -- leeMar 30 17:43
mateytom lehrer not so much of a g&s fanMar 30 17:43
mateybut does a marvelous parody of themMar 30 17:44
psydruidXRevan86, maybe that person wasn't clear enough about what they meant, but the name Berezovsky does ring a bellMar 30 17:44
kingoffrance*i dont think [there are aliens] i know!Mar 30 17:44
mateytodd rundgren does a wonderful tribute, its one of my favourite songs of hisMar 30 17:44
mateyit would be amusing if lehrer secretly loved the and rundgren secretly hated themMar 30 17:45
XRevan86psydruid: He was featured in the Puppets episode that I referenced here several times.Mar 30 17:45
XRevan86The one that sparked one of the first Putin's repressive moves.Mar 30 17:46
psydruidXRevan86, is it up somewhere? I must have missed that or generally not been aware of itMar 30 17:46
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XRevan86psydruid: https://youtu.be/eZJx9bgwdv0 sureMar 30 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eZJx9bgwdv0Mar 30 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Dolls - Story of Putin - Little Zaches WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES - InvidiousMar 30 17:47
mateyadding to the incredible austrian cities of fucking and windpassingMar 30 17:47
mateyand of course "scunthorpe"Mar 30 17:48
mateyrussia has a city called "brest"Mar 30 17:48
psydruidbelarus?Mar 30 17:48
mateymaybeMar 30 17:48
XRevan86psydruid: The last time I mentioned it was because "Zaches" starts with a "Z" :)Mar 30 17:49
mateymy geography is notoriously shitMar 30 17:49
mateyis it belarus?Mar 30 17:49
psydruid๐Ÿ˜€Mar 30 17:49
psydruidyesMar 30 17:49
mateythank youMar 30 17:49
mateyat least i might get it next timeMar 30 17:49
psydruidI lived in Poland for a while and been around the country quite a bitMar 30 17:49
matey/me wouldnt make it 2 fucking minutes on jeopardyMar 30 17:49
psydruidmore so than many Polish peopleMar 30 17:49
mateywhen i moved places i often find people know very little about where they liveMar 30 17:50
mateyin terms of triviaMar 30 17:50
mateythey know where stuff is, but not how it got thereMar 30 17:50
XRevan86"[belarus] has a city called "brest"" <- What's the importance of this fact?Mar 30 17:51
mateynames that are moderately amusing in english.Mar 30 17:51
mateybut nothing beats fucking, austriaMar 30 17:51
psydruidthere is another brest in FranceMar 30 17:51
XRevan86Apparently Anglophones love the Russian name Semen.Mar 30 17:52
mateySemen <- heheheMar 30 17:52
mateyif i hadnt mentioned it i wouldnt have knownMar 30 17:52
schestowitz-TRwe had a goalkeeper Mar 30 17:52
schestowitz-TRdavid seamenMar 30 17:52
mateyoh in the south they had a governor named bonerMar 30 17:52
mateybill bonerMar 30 17:52
XRevan86matey: :)Mar 30 17:52
schestowitz-TRbohnerMar 30 17:52
mateyno it was actually spelled bonerMar 30 17:53
XRevan86The accent is on the second syllable though, and in modern Russian it's an รถ sound.Mar 30 17:53
XRevan86s/accent/stress/Mar 30 17:53
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_SeamanMar 30 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | David Seaman - WikipediaMar 30 17:53
XRevan86So it doesn't actually sound like "semen".Mar 30 17:53
psydruidSyemyon?Mar 30 17:53
XRevan86yeaMar 30 17:53
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_BonerMar 30 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bill Boner - WikipediaMar 30 17:54
XRevan86MinceR wouldn't understand :)Mar 30 17:54
XRevan86(he doesn't get "stress")Mar 30 17:54
schestowitzhttp://barryhugmansfootballers.com/player/17659Mar 30 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-barryhugmansfootballers.com | Barry Hugman's Footballers - Davidย SeamanMar 30 17:54
XRevan86Really don't know how MinceR speaks English when the schwa is the most common vowel in English, and it can never be stressed :)Mar 30 17:56
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schestowitzhe became a big fat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOjTGVVuOgMar 30 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1jOjTGVVuOgMar 30 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | โ€œI Couldโ€™ve Signed For MAN UTD Instead of ARSENALโ€ | David Seaman | Season 3 Ep #2 - InvidiousMar 30 17:56
psydruidI must say that I am not that aware of the way Hungarian and other Finno-Ugric languages workMar 30 17:57
XRevan86psydruid: Same, but we know how English works.Mar 30 17:57
MinceRXRevan86: with the stress in the wrong place some of the time, probablyMar 30 17:58
psydruidI know some, but that's just basic stuff and doesn't give me a thorough understandingMar 30 17:58
XRevan86MinceR: So ye see the difference between "semen" and "sea-man"?Mar 30 17:58
MinceRi don'tMar 30 18:00
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psydruidI think I understand what XRevan86 means nowMar 30 18:01
psydruida problem is that this isn't reflected in the spellingMar 30 18:03
psydruidwhich makes Russian harder than other Slavic languages in this respect at leastMar 30 18:04
MinceRwell, at least when teaching people russian, stress is markedMar 30 18:04
XRevan86psydruid: I don't think ye do.Mar 30 18:04
MinceRi pretty much never saw english text with the stress markedMar 30 18:05
XRevan86Because stress is not reflected in English spelling either, and I'm using English as an example here.Mar 30 18:05
MinceRafaik in russian spelling, stress is also often omittedMar 30 18:05
MinceRe.g. in newspapersMar 30 18:05
XRevan86(I did hear some people mis-stress words in English, albeit rarer than in Russian)Mar 30 18:05
psydruidXRevan86, I'm approaching this not from English, but from other Slavic languages I speak (Polish, Ukrainian and Serbian)Mar 30 18:06
MinceRafaik even ั‘ is just written as ะตMar 30 18:06
psydruidmaybe that's a curse or a blessing, depending on how you look at itMar 30 18:07
XRevan86psydruid: I am still not completely sure what the true stress in Ukrainian is in some words.Mar 30 18:07
XRevan86There is some variation there, and I'm not always sure what the literary norm is.Mar 30 18:08
psydruidะกะตะผะตะฝะพะฒ = "Syemyenov"?Mar 30 18:08
XRevan86psydruid: In Russian "ะกะตะผั‘ะฝะพะฒ" is "S'em'รถnov", where the first two consonants are iotated, as represented by the ' marker.Mar 30 18:10
psydruidAh, it makes sense nowMar 30 18:10
psydruidand the ยจ are usually omitted in writing?Mar 30 18:11
XRevan86If this were a Ukrainian surname, it would've looked like "ะกะตะผะตะฝั–ะฒ" i.e. "Semeniv"Mar 30 18:11
psydruidyesMar 30 18:11
psydruidwhich makes things a lot easierMar 30 18:11
XRevan86Because of the lack of iotation, or because the historical eโ†’รถ is always represented in writing (either with "ะพ" or with "ัŒะพ" depending on whether the iotation remained)Mar 30 18:12
XRevan86"ััŒะพะณะพะดะฝั–" ("s'รถhodni"), "ั‡ะพะผัƒ" ("chomu")Mar 30 18:13
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mateyknocked offline by putlinMar 30 18:14
XRevan86psydruid: Would ye know in advance where the stress in "ะบรดะผะฝะฐั‚ะฐ" is?Mar 30 18:14
schestowitz-TRj/him putlin?Mar 30 18:14
mateyso i learned something cool about brest, more interesting than the nameMar 30 18:14
matey j/him putlin? <- i dont know his preferred pronounsMar 30 18:15
schestowitz-TRthat is's natural?Mar 30 18:15
schestowitz-TRno, jim zemlinMar 30 18:15
*XRevan86 used that spelling because it can help me make an observation later.Mar 30 18:15
schestowitz-TRthe imperial guyMar 30 18:15
mateyturns out brest is where hitler first invaded when he decided (foolishly) to take on the ussrMar 30 18:15
psydruidXRevan86, I think it's on the first, but I wouldn't know why that would be the caseMar 30 18:15
mateynow theres this guy doing an eastern european pub crawl of sortsMar 30 18:16
XRevan86psydruid: In Ukrainian?Mar 30 18:16
mateyand hes in vitebsk saying how the streets have the coolest namesMar 30 18:16
matey"red army street"Mar 30 18:16
psydruidXRevan86, oh, no idea about thatMar 30 18:16
psydruidhow should one know?Mar 30 18:16
psydruid*could?Mar 30 18:16
XRevan86psydruid: No idea honestly :). But it's actually on the second syllable.Mar 30 18:16
psydruidand in Russian?Mar 30 18:17
mateyschestowitz-TR i have no problem with people calling him putler if they prefer-- close enoughMar 30 18:17
XRevan86psydruid: The first syllable.Mar 30 18:17
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ะบะพะผะฝะฐั‚ะฐ#Russian "Old East Slavic ะบะพะผะฝะฐั‚ะฐ (komnata), from Latin camฤซnฤta, probably through Old High German keminฤta as evidenced by the initial stress"Mar 30 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | ะบะพะผะฝะฐั‚ะฐ - WiktionaryMar 30 18:17
mateythough personally i think putlin is even more fittingMar 30 18:17
psydruidthat's how I knewMar 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRI once read that zemlin might be a russian nameMar 30 18:17
psydruidonly for Russian apparently ๐Ÿ™‚Mar 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRzemlin and zemlinaMar 30 18:17
mateysince thats obviously what he aspires toMar 30 18:17
XRevan86psydruid: Now here's the kicker: in Ukrainian "o" transitioned to "i" only in stressed positions.Mar 30 18:17
schestowitz-TRnot germanic as I initially assumedMar 30 18:18
techrights-news"Having downloaded the Steam Deck recovery image and written to a USB using 'Rufus', I was surprised that booting on various AMD mini PCs has so far been unsuccessful whereas after just a few tweaks it successfully booted on a couple of different Intel NUCs." https://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2022/03/first-look-at-steamos-3.htmlMar 30 18:18
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mateyzemlin always makes me think of a failed clear wine cooler like drink from the 1990sMar 30 18:18
mateycalled zimaMar 30 18:18
XRevan86psydruid: In unstressed positions it sometimes shifts to "u" like in "ัะฑะปัƒะบะพ", "ััƒัั–ะด"Mar 30 18:18
mateyi think they wanted to be a wine cooler aimed at the male demographic. that failed, and mikes hard succeeded shortly thereafterMar 30 18:18
mateybecause men like wine coolers too dammitMar 30 18:18
psydruidXRevan86, that's why you get things like rั–ะบ -> ั€ะพะบั–ะฒ?Mar 30 18:19
XRevan86psydruid: I think that Ukrainian moved through a stress shift *after* the phonetic shift.Mar 30 18:19
XRevan86* lived throughMar 30 18:19
psydruidthat's interestingMar 30 18:19
mateyand yes, as it happens i believe boner was in office when mikes hard became popularMar 30 18:19
techrights-newsThis isn't Linux news, Liam. You're posting marketing BS for Intel/x86, which undermines the planet, security, fair competition etc. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/intel-arc-graphics-launches-for-laptops-desktop-gpus-later-this-year/Mar 30 18:19
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mateyprobably a coincidence, but theres nothing like being in the right place at the right time Mar 30 18:20
XRevan86psydruid: Wiktionary gives both ั€ะพฬะบั–ะฒ and ั€ะพะบั–ฬะฒMar 30 18:20
XRevan86psydruid: I only heard "ั€ะพฬะบั–ะฒ" myself. So the other variant is probably archaic and/or regional.Mar 30 18:20
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_(drink)Mar 30 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zima (drink) - WikipediaMar 30 18:20
psydruidzemlin, from zemlja? or zima?Mar 30 18:20
psydruidthe latter being winter?Mar 30 18:21
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=yUcq9_IsnXMMar 30 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zima commercial (1994) - InvidiousMar 30 18:21
XRevan86psydruid: "that's interesting" <- Thanks, I'm pretty confident in that this is actually the case :).Mar 30 18:21
psydruidXRevan86, thanks for unravelling the mystery ๐Ÿ™‚Mar 30 18:21
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemlin earthMar 30 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zemlin - WikipediaMar 30 18:21
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: no, not thatMar 30 18:21
schestowitz-TRI saw zemlinaMar 30 18:21
schestowitz-TRcontext was, finding if he was lyingMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRabout his grandpaMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRwhich seems possibleMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRhe claimed he eas a cray co-founderMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRwhich I think is BSMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRJim is full of BSMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRalso claimed he could speak japaneseMar 30 18:22
mateywell he runs the linux foundation on a mac soMar 30 18:22
schestowitz-TRmaybe as he was some one-year exchnge studentMar 30 18:22
XRevan86schestowitz: Fun fact: Putin's wife's surname was Putina.Mar 30 18:22
mateyno he said he was "turning japanese"Mar 30 18:22
mateyor at least he thought soMar 30 18:22
psydruidhe's a supermacMar 30 18:23
XRevan86schestowitz: Maybe that will give a hint on "Zemlina".Mar 30 18:23
schestowitz-TR*exchange Mar 30 18:23
schestowitz-TRtorvalds accomplished a lot: Linux, GitMar 30 18:23
MinceRLenina HuxleyMar 30 18:23
schestowitz-TRZemlin was a loser, whose career had failed and reached a dead endMar 30 18:23
XRevan86psydruid: That also throws a wrench into that Ukrainian's stress is somehow more intuitive than Russian's :)Mar 30 18:23
schestowitz-TRhe wanted to do cooking for a livingMar 30 18:23
XRevan86psydruid: Both are complicated. In my perspective, equally complicated.Mar 30 18:23
XRevan86s/perspective/estimation/Mar 30 18:24
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4Mar 30 18:24
schestowitzwatch thisMar 30 18:24
mateyif id been of drinking age when zima was around, i would have skipped it just because the commercials make macs look less douchebaggyMar 30 18:24
schestowitz-TRI've met people like james zemlin in my lifeMar 30 18:25
schestowitz-TRthey're impostersMar 30 18:25
schestowitz-TRwith fake credentialsMar 30 18:25
schestowitz-TRlike spamnil and james zemlinMar 30 18:25
mateyyou act like you knew zemlin in school and he was a dick to you personallyMar 30 18:25
schestowitz-TRincidentally, sheela and james proped up spamniMar 30 18:25
schestowitz-TR[15:56] <techrights-news> SPAMnil, who ruined LINUX.COM, seems to have broken a new record. 9 videos views in 8 days. I reckon those views are just SPAMnil and his "guest" checking that the video works. GulagTube says he has 22.2k subscribers. I LOL.Mar 30 18:26
mateyi dont doubt that most of what you say about him is trueMar 30 18:26
mateyit just seems personalMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRit isMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRlook what they didMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRto linuxMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRto lfMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRto  torvaldsMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRsending him to therapistsMar 30 18:26
mateytorvalds was a dick too, honestlyMar 30 18:26
schestowitz-TRsomething stalin would doMar 30 18:26
mateyyeah the therapists thing was a really stalin like move i knowMar 30 18:26
mateyi was going to say it before you didMar 30 18:26
mateyits trueMar 30 18:26
mateytorvalds was a dick-- zemlin is a bigger dickMar 30 18:27
XRevan86psydruid: Though there are also oโ†’i's in prepositions and such, their origin is still a mystery to me.Mar 30 18:27
mateysomeone will be an even bigger dick than zemlinMar 30 18:27
mateyopen source eats their ownMar 30 18:27
mateytheres always someone worseMar 30 18:27
schestowitz-TRzemlin will be out the moment he starts behavingMar 30 18:27
schestowitz-TRlike, not being a shillMar 30 18:27
psydruidXRevan86, can you give some examples?Mar 30 18:27
schestowitz-TRremember:Mar 30 18:28
schestowitz-TRwe need to "respect MicrosoftMar 30 18:28
mateywhat are the odds of zemlin not being a shill? hes 100% shamelessMar 30 18:28
XRevan86psydruid: pod- โ†’ pid-, etc.Mar 30 18:28
mateya puppet through and throughMar 30 18:28
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft Director: Microsoft bribes officials all aroundMar 30 18:28
schestowitz-TRZemlin :we need to "respect Microsoft"Mar 30 18:28
schestowitz-TRfsck /home/zemlinMar 30 18:28
mateyholding microsoft accountable for crimes against humanity is like kicking a puppy!Mar 30 18:28
psydruidkick that puppy hard!Mar 30 18:29
techrights-newsGames: SteamOS 3, Ubisoft Connect, and Crowns And Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163153Mar 30 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SteamOS 3, Ubisoft Connect, and Crowns And Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit | Tux MachinesMar 30 18:29
schestowitz-TRmatey: it's not a puppyMar 30 18:29
schestowitz-TRIt's the NewPuppyMar 30 18:29
mateymicrosoft suspending the puppy linux website is likeMar 30 18:29
mateyits likeMar 30 18:29
schestowitz-TRaka EasyOSMar 30 18:29
XRevan86psydruid: If I ever find out that they used to be said with additional stress (like a separate word), that would be cool :)Mar 30 18:30
mateyXRevan86 james doohan fansMar 30 18:30
schestowitz-TRbashing Microsoft is like kicking puppy OFFLINEMar 30 18:30
mateythere you goMar 30 18:30
psydruidXRevan86, we're going to find out the truth eventuall Mar 30 18:30
psydruidy ๐Ÿ™‚Mar 30 18:30
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schestowitz-TRcriticising putin is like kicking kittensMar 30 18:31
schestowitz-TRcriticising putin is like kicking pussy riotMar 30 18:31
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XRevan86psydruid: I'm sure it's no secret, but it's not like I can just put "did prepositions in old east slavic have additional stress" into a search engine and find an answer.Mar 30 18:31
schestowitz-TRwe need to respect putinMar 30 18:31
XRevan86or "why did oโ†’i occur in prepositions in ukrainians if it generally happened with a stressed vowel"Mar 30 18:32
XRevan86* in ukrainianMar 30 18:32
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schestowitz-TRopen source loves putinMar 30 18:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Jim-Zemlin-Open-Source-Loves-Microsoft.webmMar 30 18:32
schestowitz-TRopen source loves putin is code for "keep sending me  money, putin"Mar 30 18:33
psydruidXRevan86, maybe there is a way to reach out to the Slavic department at some Russian (or global) universityMar 30 18:33
schestowitz-TRLF will collapse one day, like all things, but it can take a few years moreMar 30 18:33
schestowitz-TRtheir lack of IRS filings is a sign of something not happening rightMar 30 18:33
schestowitz-TRthe CFO of LF left that year, tooMar 30 18:33
schestowitz-TRbut the new CFO did release IRS filing to an offshoot of LFMar 30 18:34
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/Mar 30 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | TechrightsMar 30 18:34
XRevan86psydruid: It's not like I have any use for this information to bother people :)Mar 30 18:34
mateyturns out zima means winterMar 30 18:34
psydruidyesMar 30 18:34
XRevan86psydruid: The stress thing is likely to just be a subset of the broader phenomenon.Mar 30 18:34
psydruidzemestan in PersianMar 30 18:34
techrights-newsFree and open source level editor LDtk 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux โš“ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/free-and-open-source-level-designer-ldtk-10-is-out-now/ ไท‰ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | GamesMar 30 18:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source level editor LDtk 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinuxMar 30 18:35
mateythey spent 38 million dollars (in 1990s dollars) on the most dumbfuck adverts ever conceivedMar 30 18:35
psydruidhimalaya -> abode in the coldMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: name original does not matter muchMar 30 18:35
psydruidwinter abodeMar 30 18:35
mateyadobe = left in the coldMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRI just saw it in passingMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRalleged russian rootsMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRbut that's not what I was afterMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRI tried to get his grandpa's nameMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRand thought I had found itMar 30 18:35
schestowitz-TRbut nothing backs his claims about CrayMar 30 18:36
schestowitz-TRso he partly made it upMar 30 18:36
SomeH4x0rwhat is cPanel CA? I'm suspicious about itMar 30 18:36
schestowitz-TRto make him look like he had CS pedigreeMar 30 18:36
schestowitz-TRhe fakes it Mar 30 18:36
schestowitz-TRin an interview with spamnilMar 30 18:36
schestowitz-TRSomeH4x0r: proprietary softwareMar 30 18:36
*psydruid knows an Indian chef with a CS degree in DublinMar 30 18:36
schestowitz-TRcpanel became buddies with canonical this yearMar 30 18:37
SomeH4x0rI don't care about licenses tbh, just wondering if they are MITMMar 30 18:37
schestowitz-TRLF  is half impostersMar 30 18:37
schestowitz-TRthey have some geeks, but not manyMar 30 18:37
MinceRafaik torvalds was a dick to people who deserved itMar 30 18:37
MinceRzemlin isn'tMar 30 18:37
schestowitz-TRMinceR: mostlyMar 30 18:37
schestowitz-TRcannot put a number on itMar 30 18:37
schestowitz-TRMinceR: it's 1) cultural and 2) arguably goodMar 30 18:38
AdmFubarhelp help the paranoids are after me   https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-search-ai-mum-helpMar 30 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google search AI uses MUM to flag queries for help - ProtocolMar 30 18:38
schestowitz-TRHEY HIMar 30 18:38
schestowitz-TRHELP, IMA GETTING OUTTA THIS GULAGMar 30 18:38
schestowitz-TRthey keep trying to market spying asMar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TR1) fitnessMar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TR2) health Mar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TR3)safetyMar 30 18:39
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/03/23/scabrousMar 30 18:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Scabrous - Penny ArcadeMar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TRI took note of it years prior to COVIDMar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TRthey try to glorify spying as a personal benefitMar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TR"you arer missing out!!"Mar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TR"google doesn't have a microphone and gps coords on you!!"Mar 30 18:39
schestowitz-TR"how can they save you???"Mar 30 18:39
psydruidI always thought computers would and should be integrated into our personal livesMar 30 18:39
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schestowitz-TRcomputer are OKMar 30 18:40
schestowitz-TRwqith consent and understandingMar 30 18:40
psydruidbut not that those tech companies would use those against their buyersMar 30 18:40
schestowitz-TRthey enocourage implied and non-consentMar 30 18:40
schestowitz-TRbased on misconceptionMar 30 18:40
psydruidwhy would you ever do that?Mar 30 18:40
psydruidI got a fitbit from my workplace onceMar 30 18:40
schestowitz-TRlike the 'ankle bracelet' called apple watchMar 30 18:40
psydruidI left it in my drawer and never used itMar 30 18:40
schestowitz-TRit's not a giftMar 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRwell, not for you anywayMar 30 18:41
psydruidit's a trojan horseMar 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRemployers love giving 'free' phonesMar 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRthey become devices that let them pester you at homeMar 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRand you cannot complainMar 30 18:41
mateyturns out it wasnt even a wine coolerMar 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRit's a 'gift' after allMar 30 18:41
schestowitz-TRa torjan giftMar 30 18:41
XRevan86psydruid: How is stress in Polish by the way? Is it as complicated as in its Eastern counterparts or is there some kind of intuitive system that people follow without thinking and always succeed?Mar 30 18:41
mateyit was a clear beer that they wanted to AVOID looking like a wine coolerMar 30 18:41
mateyand people (like jim zemlin) still drink it-- in japabMar 30 18:41
mateyjapanMar 30 18:41
matey(while speaking japanese)Mar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TRhe never spoke japanese, even in japanMar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TRI checkedMar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TRif he spoke nippon, he's say something in the japan eventMar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TRbut nothingMar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TReven suckerfuck faked knowing mandarinMar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TRby memorising a bunch of nonsenseMar 30 18:42
schestowitz-TRso that he and fieve eyes (japan not in there yet) can spy on china, tooMar 30 18:43
schestowitz-TRit didn't workMar 30 18:43
schestowitz-TRchina doesn't want his trojan horseMar 30 18:43
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMwwMar 30 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Vapors - Turning Japanese - InvidiousMar 30 18:43
schestowitz-TRzemlin knows japanese like rms knows indonesianMar 30 18:44
schestowitz-TRand like i know some languagesMar 30 18:44
schestowitz-TRthat i don't really knowMar 30 18:44
psydruidXRevan86, I haven't progressed with my Polish from years ago, but I don't think it's as complicated as in the Eastern counterparts. From what I know stress is usually on the penultimate syllable, if there are 2 or more syllablesMar 30 18:44
schestowitz-TRor forgotMar 30 18:44
mateythat guy looks like jimmy fallon as a standin for mike myers as dieter from sprocketsMar 30 18:44
matey<schestowitz-TR> zemlin knows japanese like rms knows indonesian <- or portuguese :(Mar 30 18:46
techrights-newsHow proprietary socialcontrolmedia shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy โš“ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article904/how-proprietary-social-medias-are-shaping-the-future-of-peppercarrot ไท‰ Source: davidrevoyMar 30 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | How proprietary social-medias are shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David RevoyMar 30 18:47
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schestowitz-TRmatey: keep the bottle away from jamesMar 30 18:48
psydruidhe speaks Spanish, thoughMar 30 18:48
psydruidand Russian?Mar 30 18:48
mateyyes, he speaks spanishMar 30 18:48
schestowitz-TRi imagine rms has at least one parent from eastern europeMar 30 18:48
mateyancestor at leastMar 30 18:49
schestowitz-TRyes, one who spoke that at homeMar 30 18:49
schestowitz-TRlike lithuanian or somethingMar 30 18:49
schestowitz-TRlippmanMar 30 18:49
mateyhe likes bulgarian folk dancing, its his favouriteMar 30 18:49
schestowitz-TRbulgarian, eh?Mar 30 18:50
schestowitz-TRmy material grandparents both born thereMar 30 18:50
schestowitz-TR*maternalMar 30 18:51
techrights-newsProprietary Software Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163154Mar 30 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 30 18:52
techrights-newsYou cannot learn Qt. You can learn the APIs, but Qt is again proprietary software, so you cannot learn how it works. https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-learn-qtMar 30 18:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | How to learn Qt?Mar 30 18:54
mateythe free software song is based on "sadi moma" a classic bulgarian folk tuneMar 30 18:54
schestowitz-TRi thought he likes listening to music from indonesiaMar 30 18:54
schestowitz-TRwhen he was youngMar 30 18:54
matey/me giggles at encyclopedia dramaaticaMar 30 18:55
mateythey said gnu stands for "gnus not usable"Mar 30 18:55
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163155Mar 30 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 30 18:55
schestowitz-TRhaMar 30 18:55
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40Mar 30 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40Mar 30 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Soulja Boy crank dat, MIT style - InvidiousMar 30 18:56
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40Mar 30 18:57
mateyะ ั–ั‡ะฐั€ะด Mar 30 18:57
XRevan86Dimitry Potapenko, an economist, says that the reason Putin's put this ultimatum is to attempt to nullify the contracts and force gas buyers to make a new one.Mar 30 18:57
techrights-news"Smart" things https://www.maketecheasier.com/verizon-spam-texts-from-their-own-numbers/Mar 30 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Verizon Customers Getting Spam Texts from Their Own Numbers - Make Tech EasierMar 30 18:58
XRevan86The reason being is that the gas on the market is *a lot* more expensive than what Europe pays.Mar 30 18:58
mateyjeni.com says stallman has a father named daniel j and a brother named adam s stallmanMar 30 18:58
mateyive never heard of adam stallmanMar 30 18:58
XRevan86Actuallyโ€ฆ ^ activelow, this is important.Mar 30 18:58
schestowitz-TRmatey: the pizza is on the wayMar 30 18:58
techrights-newsGodot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 3 โš“ https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-5-beta-3 ไท‰ Source: godotengineMar 30 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 3Mar 30 18:58
mateyoh dearMar 30 18:59
mateyit says maurice lippman is his stepfatherMar 30 18:59
schestowitz-TRah, okMar 30 18:59
mateythis is a geneology websiteMar 30 18:59
schestowitz-TRI know he was raised by his momMar 30 18:59
schestowitz-TRthat book about himMar 30 18:59
schestowitz-TRto which she supplied a photo of him as a pupilMar 30 18:59
schestowitz-TRadam s stallmanMar 30 19:00
schestowitz-TRanother hackerMar 30 19:00
mateyAdam Stallman - Senior Software Engineer - International Business MachinesMar 30 19:00
mateyyou dont suppose...Mar 30 19:00
schestowitz-TRbut bad initialsMar 30 19:00
mateyyes not the bestMar 30 19:00
schestowitz-TRKicks adam s stallmanMar 30 19:00
XRevan86matey: What do ye think about that idea?Mar 30 19:01
schestowitz-TRmaybe Adam LOVES systemdMar 30 19:01
schestowitz-TR"100% of the time"Mar 30 19:01
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XRevan86Maybe activelow had a point when he said that Russia is selling gas crazy cheap. Maybe that's the problem.Mar 30 19:01
schestowitz-TRbut check the ageMar 30 19:01
matey <XRevan86> matey: What do ye think about that idea <- should i scroll up?Mar 30 19:01
schestowitz-TRhe'd have to be like retirement ageMar 30 19:01
XRevan86And Putin tried to cause a force major, and cause the long-term contract to fall apart.Mar 30 19:01
mateyi mean i thought the video psydroid showed was plausible enoughMar 30 19:02
schestowitz-TRIBM: RMS needs to step down. We need more diversityMar 30 19:02
schestowitz-TRIBM: here, now let ASS take chargeMar 30 19:02
XRevan86matey: Regarding Putin's statement on that gas should be sold for rubles.Mar 30 19:03
activelowXRevan86: i think the demand Russia accounts foreign trade with Rubles at their central bank is an absolutely legitimate demandMar 30 19:03
schestowitz-TRIBM <3 ASS ASSMar 30 19:03
schestowitz-TR(SSMar 30 19:03
mateyi dont believe adam stallman is with us anymore Adam S. Stallman: Birthdate: estimated between 1929 and 1985 : Death: Immediate Family: Son of Daniel J. Stallman and Private Brother of Richard Matthew StallmanMar 30 19:03
XRevan86activelow: It already fell apart.Mar 30 19:03
XRevan86activelow: But it's likely that the attempt was to make gas more expensive for Europe.Mar 30 19:04
XRevan86Ten times.Mar 30 19:04
activelowtoo this is important to fight corruption; since currently Russia/Putin are accused of expensive oil/gas/energy supplies (an EU propaganda lie), when instead Russia is selling rather cheap, and it is Euro and USD cheating with excess taxation and reseller-marginsMar 30 19:04
schestowitz-TRso it sounds like it's really the siblingMar 30 19:04
schestowitz-TRif he passed away, we need to change subjectMar 30 19:05
XRevan86Haven't heard anyone say that Russia's gas is expensive.Mar 30 19:05
schestowitz-TRin respectMar 30 19:05
SomeH4x0rdead don't see chatsMar 30 19:05
SomeH4x0r*the deadMar 30 19:05
activelowbtw. this was the spiritual root of Putin and Medvedev, to fight corruption (within Russia), now this fight is fought elsewhere tooMar 30 19:05
schestowitz-TRbut it hurts relativesMar 30 19:05
schestowitz-TRand as far as e know he did nothing wrongMar 30 19:05
SomeH4x0rdon't invite relatives hereMar 30 19:05
schestowitz-TRand IBM said Hitler did nothing wrongMar 30 19:06
XRevan86activelow: "this was the spiritual root of Putin and Medvedev, to fight corruption (within Russia)" <- They ARE the corruption.Mar 30 19:06
XRevan86activelow: Ye fell for a populist stunt. An outdated one at that!Mar 30 19:06
activelowXRevan86: maybeMar 30 19:06
mateythis is all wrongMar 30 19:06
matey"Alice married Maurice Lippman in 1948, at age 12."Mar 30 19:06
mateywhat? noMar 30 19:06
XRevan86They no longer play in anti-corruption, not a thing.Mar 30 19:06
activelownonetheless it isn't surprising, those corrupt criminals in German government and EU don't appreciate this, their corruption and criminal activity is addressed nowMar 30 19:06
mateythats got to be a typoMar 30 19:07
schestowitz-TRmaybe engaged?Mar 30 19:07
mateyhttps://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_lippmanMar 30 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.myheritage.com | NO TITLEMar 30 19:07
schestowitz-TRlike ina  religious context?Mar 30 19:07
mateyi have no idea, im sure its not accurateMar 30 19:07
mateyit also said that she died in 2017 at age 81Mar 30 19:07
mateythat means she would be 86 if still aroundMar 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRah, that would be strange...Mar 30 19:08
schestowitz-TRunless she had rms when she was very youngMar 30 19:08
mateyand a teenage mother to rmsMar 30 19:08
mateywell its not physically impossibleMar 30 19:08
mateymarried at age 12 was not legal even in 1948Mar 30 19:08
mateythats got to be a typoMar 30 19:08
mateyi posted the url (it was the first hit in a search) so you see where i got it fromMar 30 19:09
activelowrecently they boasted again about their solar panels and wind mill (subsidy fraud), which require billions of tons of steel, coal and energy to produce, supplied from... a voila... Russia/UkraineMar 30 19:09
schestowitz-TRsher married TWO people aged 12?Mar 30 19:10
activelowthat's why solar industry in germany was whining recently, about lack of supply of raw materials to produce those panelsMar 30 19:10
activelowand i bet, if sanctions hit, the dozen of tons of steel required for a wind turbine cannot be produced anymore either, without russian gas/coal/oil/energyMar 30 19:10
schestowitz-TRmatey: could be data mix-upMar 30 19:10
matey<schestowitz-TR> sher married TWO people aged 12? <- maybe some trolls have submitted false geneological dataMar 30 19:10
schestowitz-TR"Mar 30 19:10
schestowitz-TRAlice Lippman (born Unknown Stallman), 1936 - 2017Mar 30 19:10
schestowitz-TRAlice Lippman was born in 1936.Mar 30 19:10
schestowitz-TRAlice married Daniel J Stallman in 1948, at age 12.Mar 30 19:11
schestowitz-TRAlice then married Maurice Lippman in 1948, at age 12.Mar 30 19:11
schestowitz-TRAlice passed away in 2017, at age 81.Mar 30 19:11
schestowitz-TR"Mar 30 19:11
schestowitz-TRthat would help discredit, yesMar 30 19:11
mateymaybe (not a joke) the people who hacked his website in 2019 also submitted false geneological data Mar 30 19:11
mateythat would be a low blowMar 30 19:11
schestowitz-TRdon't preclude as possibilityMar 30 19:11
mateyi just found this a few minutes ago by the wayMar 30 19:11
schestowitz-TRtry to cross-correlateMar 30 19:12
mateyincluding that he had a brotherMar 30 19:12
schestowitz-TRwith another sourceMar 30 19:12
mateywell yes, but you cant cross correlate until you find the first sourceMar 30 19:12
mateyand i JUST found this minutes agoMar 30 19:12
schestowitz-TRhttps://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_lippman#Mar 30 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.myheritage.com | NO TITLEMar 30 19:12
mateyi was instantly sceptical of itMar 30 19:12
mateyit reeks of errorMar 30 19:13
mateyi would sooner believe she was 22 and someone has fat fingersMar 30 19:13
mateyim not throwing out the malicious data sent in theory (its more remote but im keeping it for now)Mar 30 19:14
schestowitz-TRit's hard to raised a genius kid or kids at this ageMar 30 19:14
schestowitz-TRand in these timesMar 30 19:14
mateyits never easy to raise a gifted kid or to grow up as oneMar 30 19:14
mateyschools are not made for them Mar 30 19:14
mateyi mean most schools are notMar 30 19:15
mateythey dont know what to do with themMar 30 19:15
matey"give them more work i guess"Mar 30 19:15
matey"hes been able to do this since he was 6" "okay, well he can do twice as much of it"Mar 30 19:15
matey"youre not teaching him anything though"Mar 30 19:15
matey"well, he has to do something"Mar 30 19:15
mateythis is literally how it worksMar 30 19:16
mateythey dont like to skip people because socially its badMar 30 19:17
techrights-newssystemd-sysupdate?????????????? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-251-rc1Mar 30 19:17
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schestowitz"- A new component "systemd-sysupdate" has been added that automatically discovers / downloads / installs A/B style updates for the host installation itself or container images / portable service images. Systemd-sysupdate is currently considered experimental. This OS updating tool has been worked on by Red Hat / systemd developers going back to last summer. "Mar 30 19:17
mateyplus if youre ahead in some things-- not necessarily everythingMar 30 19:17
schestowitzsystemd is just an init systemMar 30 19:17
schestowitzdon't panicMar 30 19:17
matey Systemd-sysupdate is currently considered experimental <- the whole bloody thing is experimentalMar 30 19:17
schestowitzme remembers when system updates updated init systemdMar 30 19:17
schestowitznot the other way aroundMar 30 19:18
mateygnu/linux is an init system and rust is one of its kernelsMar 30 19:18
mateyanyway, mincer tried to tell you soMar 30 19:18
matey/me didnt even know until years laterMar 30 19:18
mateyits not an init system, its a (anti)social experimentMar 30 19:19
schestowitz-TRanti-system-systemdMar 30 19:19
schestowitz-TRASSMar 30 19:19
mateyadvanced rust systemd enhancementsMar 30 19:21
mateythe reason theyre redoing everything in a single c projectMar 30 19:22
mateyis so they can translate it to rust once its "stable"Mar 30 19:22
mateylinux and systemd will be redone in rust at the same timeMar 30 19:22
mateyafter they merge into the same codebaseMar 30 19:22
mateyfirst comes linuxd, then linuxd will be rewritten in rustMar 30 19:22
mateythen rust will be reimplemented in r#Mar 30 19:23
mateythen the internet (the infrastructure itself) will suicide in an attempt to save mankindMar 30 19:23
mateyor something like thatMar 30 19:23
mateythrow in some "steel birds" for the hell of itMar 30 19:23
*matey has quit (connection closed)Mar 30 19:23
schestowitz-TRthe warning is in the name Mar 30 19:24
schestowitz-TRit will rustMar 30 19:24
schestowitz-TRterrible name for a project if you ask meMar 30 19:24
schestowitz-TRit's like calling your framework "rot"Mar 30 19:24
schestowitz-TRor "decay"Mar 30 19:24
schestowitz-TRinterview question: can you decay?Mar 30 19:24
activelowfollowing the mailing list thread further: http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.htmlMar 30 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.landley.net | [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project.Mar 30 19:25
activelowaboriginal linux developer too noticed issues with cmake written in c++, python creeping into as build dependency, yet hasn't arrived at the glory of C11Mar 30 19:26
activelowas far as a toolchain was a concern for free software, TinyCC seems the last red line of defenseMar 30 19:27
activelowin parallel Landley was involved with j-core too, and the gcc toolchain for it broken 5 years ago; tcc doesn't support j-core at allMar 30 19:28
schestowitz-TR"yes, I can as a matter of fact I've decayed for 15 years already"Mar 30 19:29
activelowfrom a technical standpoint that's noteworthy, projects most concerned with freedom (hardware, software, toolchain), express some hostility towards FSFMar 30 19:29
activelowand the toolchain and bootstrapping issue is a one which affects _all_ supposedly free softwareMar 30 19:29
schestowitz-TR[14:41] <techrights-news> "This article covers the highlights of the C++ standardization proposals before the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) committee's Core and Evolution Working Groups last year. Read on to find out what's coming in C++23." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/c-standardization-core-language-progress-2021Mar 30 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | C++ standardization (core language) progress in 2021 | Red Hat DeveloperMar 30 19:30
schestowitz-TRalso new:Mar 30 19:30
schestowitz-TR[20:23] <techrights-news> "Believe it or not, not everything is based on C. There are current, shipping, commercial OSes written before C was invented, and now others in both newer and older languages that don't involve C at any level or layer." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/Mar 30 19:30
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schestowitz-TRactivelow: so C is freedomMar 30 19:31
schestowitz-TRand other stuff is not?Mar 30 19:31
activelowit is a cornerstone of proof, to see which build-time dependencies are required for the toolchainMar 30 19:31
schestowitz-TRis freedom about low vs high level?Mar 30 19:31
schestowitz-TRI could do ASM and did a lot of CMar 30 19:31
schestowitz-TRC is just works or tokensMar 30 19:32
schestowitz-TRASM is binary/bitsMar 30 19:32
schestowitz-TRthe machines are gatesMar 30 19:32
schestowitz-TRproof of concept at what level?Mar 30 19:32
schestowitz-TRcan you trust the asm?Mar 30 19:32
schestowitz-TRwithout designing the circuits?Mar 30 19:32
activelowno, and no, and... no.Mar 30 19:33
schestowitz-TRthen, if you used cad to design the circuitMar 30 19:33
schestowitz-TRyou then have other things to worry aboutMar 30 19:33
schestowitz-TRboth the cad and the fabsMar 30 19:33
activelowthat's why aboriginal linux and j-core invested into a free hardware option for linux, which was their turtle boardMar 30 19:33
schestowitz-TRi see...Mar 30 19:33
schestowitz-TRhow many transistors in it?Mar 30 19:34
activelowand then, the toolchain was brickedMar 30 19:34
schestowitz-TRfor proof of concept it should be just thouandsMar 30 19:34
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schestowitz-TRyou can compensate with high clocking speedMar 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRtoday's science can clock it fastMar 30 19:35
DaemonFCBe careful what you standardize. It will probably be in use a long time after it makes sense.Mar 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRwithout you worrying about what you send the data intoMar 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRrisc-v keeps is simple and still it can run proper programsMar 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRand smaller teams can adopt itMar 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRin bulkMar 30 19:35
activelowrisc-v isn't supported by any legacy toolchain or kernel version i am aware ofMar 30 19:35
schestowitz-TRrightMar 30 19:36
DaemonFCVendor crap is going to kill risc-v.Mar 30 19:36
DaemonFCIt's already made dealing with arm nearly impossible.Mar 30 19:36
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: it is just the referenceMar 30 19:36
schestowitz-TRintel sank money into iktMar 30 19:36
activelowif you jump onto the risc-v wagon, then you're locked into recent kernel versions and toolchains, which have issues; and imo, aren't acceptable.Mar 30 19:36
schestowitz-TRmaybe to SINK itMar 30 19:36
DaemonFCOne of those government programs is offering poor people cheap computers.Mar 30 19:37
DaemonFCSomeone I know bought one and it came with Windows 11 on a low end Pentium with 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB eMMC.Mar 30 19:37
schestowitz-TRin most places they call them "smartphones", DaemonFCMar 30 19:37
DaemonFCI removed it and put GalliumOS on it instead.Mar 30 19:37
schestowitz-TRgovernment love thoseMar 30 19:37
schestowitz-TR"Stalin's dream"Mar 30 19:37
schestowitz-TRyour gov. become the creepy b/fMar 30 19:38
DaemonFCI was surprised Windows 11 was so easy to kill.Mar 30 19:38
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: microsoft was tooMar 30 19:38
schestowitz-TRone bad system updateMar 30 19:38
schestowitz-TRand ZAP!Mar 30 19:38
schestowitz-TR"wow, josh!"Mar 30 19:39
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft statemennt would mince wordsMar 30 19:39
schestowitz-TRunlike MinceRMar 30 19:39
schestowitz-TR"our quality assurance team... something... kindly ask users to wait..."Mar 30 19:39
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: btw, speaking of creepy b/fMar 30 19:40
MinceRhttps://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FEVLRDoRUEAEBFmr.jpg%3Fname%3DorigMar 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRtell mandy the apple watch is called after its functionMar 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRit watches himMar 30 19:40
DaemonFCIncluding heart functions.Mar 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRnot parental watchingMar 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRmore like creepy uncleMar 30 19:40
DaemonFCIt panics people and sends them to the ER and the watch is often wrong.Mar 30 19:40
schestowitz-TRjust to make sure he's not a pedoMar 30 19:41
DaemonFCSo they just get a YUUUUUGE hospital bill for no reason.Mar 30 19:41
schestowitz-TRthey need a REAL doctorMar 30 19:41
DaemonFCThe number one cause of heart attacks and stroke in the United States is blood pressure.Mar 30 19:41
schestowitz-TRnot steve "I'll take nuts to cure cancer" jobsMar 30 19:41
DaemonFCSave your crApple Watch money and go to the damned doctor.Mar 30 19:41
DaemonFCAnd get your blood pressure under control.Mar 30 19:41
schestowitz-TRyeahMar 30 19:42
DaemonFCAnd you probably won't blow out your heart.Mar 30 19:42
schestowitz-TRand walletMar 30 19:42
schestowitz-TRwatches cannot accurately measure itMar 30 19:42
schestowitz-TRit's borderline pseudoscienceMar 30 19:42
schestowitz-TRalso, mandy is too young for thatMar 30 19:42
DaemonFCStroke damage is often cumulative, as is heart damage.Mar 30 19:42
DaemonFCI mean, you have a heart attack and your heart cells are dying the entire time.Mar 30 19:43
DaemonFCYou don't just get over that.Mar 30 19:43
DaemonFCI wish more doctors would treat hypertension aggressively.Mar 30 19:43
schestowitz-TRshades of covid19Mar 30 19:43
schestowitz-TRstay the F*(!) away fromcovidMar 30 19:43
schestowitz-TRmy colleagues get sick over and over againMar 30 19:43
schestowitz-TRit's not getting betterMar 30 19:43
schestowitz-TRit batters themMar 30 19:43
DaemonFCYeah, it's a battering ram.Mar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TRwe have 19 home testing kitsMar 30 19:44
DaemonFCIt's not just one and done.Mar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TRback to apple watchMar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TRmaybe if I saw one I'd write about itMar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TROI try never to write about stuff that I do not understand fullyMar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TRfrom what I saw, these accessories are fashion and class statementsMar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TR"|doctor apple"Mar 30 19:44
schestowitz-TR"an apple watch a day"Mar 30 19:45
schestowitz-TR"I have a very expensive doctor"Mar 30 19:45
DaemonFCOh, people I know of have had COVID 4 times becauset they take no precaution.Mar 30 19:45
DaemonFCAnd you know, avoiding it totally may not be possible, but getting it once is better than four times!Mar 30 19:45
DaemonFCMom is still on the denial bandwagon where "Most of the time it isn't serious.".Mar 30 19:46
techrights-newsLoongArch in GCC https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=LoongArchMar 30 19:46
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DaemonFCIt's like your car. Most cars don't lose their suspension the first time they hit a bad pothole.Mar 30 19:46
techrights-newsMesa 22.0.1 Release Notes โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163156Mar 30 19:46
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DaemonFCKeep doing it and you'll ruin your car.Mar 30 19:46
schestowitz-TRtoday's cars ruin themselves fastMar 30 19:47
DaemonFCThe strategy now is as long as there are hospital beds for COVID patients, they don't really care.Mar 30 19:47
schestowitz-TRand are getting more expensive to repairMar 30 19:47
DaemonFC<schestowitz-TR> today's cars ruin themselves fastMar 30 19:47
schestowitz-TRpreviously I gave the example of electirc winmdowsMar 30 19:47
DaemonFCYes, mom and Mandy don't get why I have my eye on a Honda Accord base model.Mar 30 19:47
schestowitz-TRyou cannot fix these with a screwdriverMar 30 19:47
schestowitz-TRI remember as a kidMar 30 19:47
schestowitz-TRand then it become impossible to get mechanical windowsMar 30 19:47
schestowitz-TR*becameMar 30 19:47
DaemonFCI said, "I need something reliable that's possible to repair without much specialized knowledge, tools, and software, that only a dealer will have."Mar 30 19:48
DaemonFC"You get more stuff you can't easily maintain the more expensive the car is.".Mar 30 19:48
schestowitz-TRit's also designed like bikesMar 30 19:48
schestowitz-TRanyone can maintain bikesMar 30 19:48
schestowitz-TRthey are made of pertinent simple componentsMar 30 19:48
schestowitz-TRto make it easy to fix with uniform set of toolsMar 30 19:48
schestowitz-TRlast month I went to a bike shop and it's all electricMar 30 19:49
schestowitz-TRthey don't even reveal the wiring and brakesMar 30 19:49
schestowitz-TRso I reckon a lot of their income is repairsMar 30 19:49
schestowitz-TRit's very proprietaryMar 30 19:49
schestowitz-TRI had a flat tire, they hardly charged me anything for the inner tubeMar 30 19:49
schestowitz-TRcars are the same nowMar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TRyou can a car that looks the sameMar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TRbut then under the skin it's all chipsMar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TRyou cannot repair chipsMar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TRand after 10 years good luck getting compatible replacementsMar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TRyou can still drive cars from the 80sMar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TRtoday's 2022 models won't run in 2050+Mar 30 19:50
schestowitz-TR(if humans get that far)Mar 30 19:51
schestowitz-TR"what the fork is this car?"Mar 30 19:51
schestowitz-TR"it's a tesla"Mar 30 19:51
schestowitz-TR"the scientist?"Mar 30 19:51
schestowitz-TR"no, it's some company that lasted some years, pretended to be competitive"Mar 30 19:52
schestowitz-TR" it was run by a psychopathic charlatan who killed himself with OD"Mar 30 19:52
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: my mom's microwave is still goingMar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TR30+ yearsMar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TRmy stereo is from 1994Mar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TRPDA 2002Mar 30 19:53
*DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)Mar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TRKettle 2021Mar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TRRIPMar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TRit was a GOOD brand tooMar 30 19:53
schestowitz-TRnot the cheapestMar 30 19:53
techrights-newsInteresting. Will Intel ever move away from Microsoft GitHub and BACK to GitLab? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SVT-AV1-1.0-rc1Mar 30 19:55
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techrights-news[GIT PULL for v5.18-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab โš“ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220322101406.459e2950@coco.lan/ ไท‰ Source: linux | kernelMar 30 19:55
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techrights-newsMicrobell is posting marketing catalogues for Intel again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-arc-a3&num=1 Mobile with wattage like THAT?Mar 30 19:56
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techrights-news[PATCH v2 0/4] Export PSP security attributes - Mario Limonciello โš“ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220329164117.1449-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ amd should just remove this malware from ALL chips. It's NOT a security feature. it is the very oppositeMar 30 19:57
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techrights-newsProprietary software is based on lies https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ftc_tax_intuit/Mar 30 19:59
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techrights-newsThe Register should have clarified this is Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/verblecon_malware_cryptomining/Mar 30 20:01
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techrights-news" After 72 straight hours of researching this spork, taking only a small series of 15-minute naps amid my research, Iโ€™m back with my report: Here are all the weird combination utensils I could find." https://tedium.co/2022/03/30/weird-utensil-history/Mar 30 20:06
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techrights-newsDebian selling Web site space (even for Microsoft... for several years in a row) https://bits.debian.org/2022/03/debconf22-lenovo-platinum.htmlMar 30 20:08
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techrights-newsHe shilled CLearLinux -- a distro nobody used and we hardly hear about anymore -- so why not marketing cruft for another Intel "PRODUCT"? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/30/intel-arc-invades-the-dedicated-gpu-market-with-truly-exciting-features/Mar 30 20:09
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techrights-news"We just watched Revolution OS before the show, so we reflect on the audacity of their vision and the new revolution we see brewing." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148057/revolution-in-review-coder-radio-459/Mar 30 20:24
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techrights-news"Taiwan-based research firm TrendForce" = marketing disguised as 'science'? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/aws_arm_servers_datacenters/Mar 30 20:25
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techrights-newsGrifting at taxpayers' expense (as if US taxpayers can pay back) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/tsmc_samsung_chip_subsidies/Mar 30 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | TSMC, Samsung want share of $52b US chip subsidies โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 20:26
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techrights-news"SciTE is an easy-to-use text editor that has many features for programming. Its footprint size and functionality make it perfect for installing on any system, even if you donโ€™t have experience with Scintilla or GTK." https://lateweb.info/easy-way-to-install-scite-on-ubuntu-21-04-lts/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=easy-way-to-install-scite-on-ubuntu-21-04-ltsMar 30 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lateweb.info | Easy Way To Install SciTE on Ubuntu 21.04 LTSMar 30 20:26
techrights-newsSpinning price hikes as "rebrand" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/rosehosting-rebrand-new-website-pricing-structure/Mar 30 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RoseHosting New Website, New Pricing Structure & Re-BrandMar 30 20:28
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22033059Mar 30 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.ipg.pw/sandcats/safariyokohama-20210415-0039.jpg created on 2022-03-30 16:24:26.861346Mar 30 20:30
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DaemonFCI get more Omaha Steaks ads. "If you think it looks good, wait until you taste it.".Mar 30 20:31
schestowitz-TRthe cows?Mar 30 20:32
techrights-newsMarch 30, 2022: Fending off attacks on connectivity in Ukraine, and keeping anti-war voices in Russia and Belarus online https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/Mar 30 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access NowMar 30 20:32
DaemonFCCar Salesman (Vacation): If you think you hate it now, wait until you drive it!Mar 30 20:33
techrights-news[Only NSApple is allowed to do it] Apple Watch in Tire Allegedly Used to Track Ex-Girlfriend โš“ https://gizmodo.com/an-angry-stalker-used-an-apple-watch-wrapped-around-his-1848714771 ไท‰ Source: gizmodoMar 30 20:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Apple Watch in Tire Allegedly Used to Track Ex-GirlfriendMar 30 20:33
techrights-newsNo, Bruce Schneier, these are not "malicious uses"; these are the uses https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/stalking-with-an-apple-watch.htmlMar 30 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stalking with an Apple Watch - Schneier on SecurityMar 30 20:34
techrights-newsLooming curbs on Tunisian civil society must be stopped - Access Now โš“ https://www.accessnow.org/tunisia-civil-society/ ไท‰ Source: accessnowMar 30 20:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Looming curbs on Tunisian civil society must be stopped - Access NowMar 30 20:35
techrights-newsproprietary software Chrome has "vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/30/google-releases-security-updates-chromeMar 30 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISAMar 30 20:36
techrights-news"They don't list authoritarianism as a protected attribute but it is clearly the primary one intended in the "not limited to" qualification." https://lwn.net/Articles/889692/Mar 30 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenSUSE adopts a new code of conduct [LWN.net]Mar 30 20:39
techrights-news"And yet the CoC's list of protected attributes includes a number of items one *does* have control over: education, immigration status, level of experience, personal appearance, religion, veteran status (unless conscripted), etc. Personally I do not see enough of a difference between "political affiliation" and "religion" to justify protecting one and not the other." https://lwn.net/Articles/889692/Mar 30 20:41
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/chicago-area-mother-among-20-killed-after-massacre-at-cock-fight-in-mexico-16-year-old-sister-wounded/Mar 30 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Chicago area mother among 20 killed after massacre at cock fight in Mexico; 16-year-old sister critical | WGN-TVMar 30 20:42
DaemonFCSo they were there to watch and promote the vicious abuse of animals, and we're going to be sorry they died?Mar 30 20:42
DaemonFCOnly in Chicago.Mar 30 20:43
DaemonFCHow is gathering to watch chickens tear each other apart even entertaining? Sounds like we lost 20 psychopaths to me.Mar 30 20:43
techrights-newsUbuntu on the spyHome(TM) https://ubuntu.com//blog/future-iot-home-automationMar 30 20:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Evolution of the Smart Home: Future Predictions [Part 3] | UbuntuMar 30 20:43
schestowitz-TRis bull 'fighting' still legal in mexico?Mar 30 20:45
DaemonFCWho knows? It's Mexico. I try not to pay attention.Mar 30 20:45
MinceRwho's going to tell the bull he's not allowed to do it?Mar 30 20:45
DaemonFCIt's bad enough that they've turned this city into a colony of Mexico and our government allows it.Mar 30 20:45
DaemonFCThey have the schools teaching in Spanish.....American schools teaching in Spanish. To people who should be deported.Mar 30 20:46
schestowitz-TRMinceR: let it beMar 30 20:46
DaemonFCTo people who the law says should be deported.Mar 30 20:46
schestowitz-TRbut the matador gets no weaponsMar 30 20:46
schestowitz-TRthen I'd watchMar 30 20:47
DaemonFCThey're doing their best to make sure that as an American, you can no longer function in your own country without speaking a foreign language that some invaders brought with them.Mar 30 20:47
DaemonFCI refuse to even try to speak it.Mar 30 20:47
MinceRwhich foreign language, english?Mar 30 20:47
DaemonFCSpanishMar 30 20:47
MinceRcuriousMar 30 20:48
schestowitz-TRMinceR: typical american stereotypeMar 30 20:48
schestowitz-TRusians being rude and arrogantMar 30 20:48
schestowitz-TRand then surprised europeans dislike "yanks"Mar 30 20:48
DaemonFCIf people refuse to speak it to them or cooperate, then it will be more difficult for them to maintain their position.Mar 30 20:48
DaemonFCThis is like, you know, the French refusing to speak German under the Nazi occupation.Mar 30 20:48
DaemonFC"We may die but we'll still be speaking French."Mar 30 20:49
MinceRhow well can you function in Shikaakwa if you only speak the Miami-Illinois language?Mar 30 20:49
DaemonFCThe cucks and crooks who run Illinois won't make English the official language of the state, like most of the states have.Mar 30 20:50
techrights-news#HowTo Turn Your Old Laptop Into a Plex Media Server โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163158Mar 30 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Turn Your Old Laptop Into a Plex Media Server | Tux MachinesMar 30 20:50
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: your only country to visit other than your own is mexicoMar 30 20:51
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's better for the USMar 30 20:51
schestowitz-TRas that otherwise stigmatises USiansMar 30 20:51
techrights-newsNew malware. From Gulag. https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/chrome-browser-version-100-is-out-now-on-windows-mac-linux-android-and-ios-article-90544070Mar 30 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesnownews.com | Chrome Browser version 100 is out now on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android and iOSMar 30 20:52
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techrights-news"linuxsecurity" likes linking to anti-Linux FUD from Microsoft-connected sites (bad optics) https://linuxsecurity.com/news/hackscracks/hive-ransomware-ports-its-linux-vmware-esxi-encryptor-to-rustMar 30 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | Hive ransomware ports its Linux VMware ESXi encryptor to Rust | Lin...Mar 30 20:53
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DaemonFCI don't plan to visit Mexico. They kidnap Americans and figure out what people will pay to get them back.Mar 30 20:53
DaemonFCAnd if nobody pays, that's not good for you either.Mar 30 20:53
DaemonFCThey don't even protect their own citizens.Mar 30 20:54
techrights-news"I worked on AMO for almost 4 years and created various libraries like pino-mozlog, pino-devtools or an ESLint plugin to name a few. These libraries have been created either to improve our developer experience or to fulfill some production requirements." https://williamdurand.fr/2022/03/29/some-non-production-tools-i-wrote/Mar 30 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-williamdurand.fr | Some non-production tools I wrote | William DurandMar 30 20:54
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: ok, so you never left your countryMar 30 20:54
DaemonFCThey give them pamphlets on how to get here and sign up for welfare and to say they're applying for refugee status.Mar 30 20:55
DaemonFCBasically instructions for everything you want to know about how to abuse American laws.Mar 30 20:55
schestowitz-TRanyway, taking shots at people who are multilingual isn't wiseMar 30 20:55
schestowitz-TRand it's not a virtue, eitherMar 30 20:55
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: might shock youMar 30 20:55
DaemonFCMy ex knows several language, including Russian and French.Mar 30 20:55
schestowitz-TRbut not many people want to be in the USMar 30 20:56
DaemonFCHe won't learn Spanish. Same reason as me.Mar 30 20:56
schestowitz-TRnot even AmericansMar 30 20:56
DaemonFCI'm not saying keep them out on account of race.Mar 30 20:56
schestowitz-TRyou're overstating the attractiveness of the USMar 30 20:56
DaemonFCI'm saying if all they plan to do is drain the system and refuse to speak the language, throw them back.Mar 30 20:56
DaemonFCPlenty of good ones. Why do we have to take in the ones that are abusing our system?Mar 30 20:57
schestowitz-TRUS is NOT a raceMar 30 20:57
schestowitz-TRUS is a broad mixMar 30 20:57
DaemonFCThey ought to change the law from "prove you won't use welfare for 10 years" to "you can't use it for 10 years", and then they know you won't.Mar 30 20:57
schestowitz-TRmaybe you also think asia and africa is a raceMar 30 20:57
schestowitz-TRas if people in egypt are the same as Congolese Mar 30 20:58
DaemonFCParis is at least as dangerous as Chicago.Mar 30 20:58
DaemonFCAnd it's because they're having an illegal immigration crisis too.Mar 30 20:58
schestowitz-TRanyway, I'll be back laterMar 30 20:58
schestowitz-TRyou inserted some mexico storyMar 30 20:58
DaemonFCIt's not the French citizens that are robbing and raping and stabbing tourists.Mar 30 20:58
schestowitz-TRto interject your hatred towards spanish speakersMar 30 20:58
schestowitz-TRlater...Mar 30 20:59
techrights-ipfs-bot โ–•  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ–…โ–†โ–„โ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–†โ–‡โ–„โ–…โ–†โ–…โ–†โ–โ–‡โ–‚โ–‚โ–ˆโ–„โ–โ–‚โ–†โ–‡โ–…โ–…โ–†โ–‚โ–ƒโ–…โ–‡โ–‡โ–†โ–…โ–‡โ–‚โ– avg(k/sec) 28.63 โ–•  IPFS upstream: โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–โ–‚โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–‚โ–ƒโ–ƒโ–‚โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–โ–‚โ–‚โ–ƒโ–ˆโ– avg(k/sec) 103.95โ–• swarm size (avg): 353.31  โŸฒMar 30 20:59
schestowitz-TRgo to another channel, tooMar 30 20:59
*psydruid has a lot of experience with the illegal immigration crisis in BiarritzMar 30 20:59
schestowitz-TRdon't ruin this oneMar 30 20:59
DaemonFCThe globalists don't want anyone to have a national identity.Mar 30 20:59
DaemonFCSo they do everything they can to strip it away and ruin it.Mar 30 21:00
*psydruid notes that Paris isn't all of FranceMar 30 21:00
DaemonFCThey figure it'll be easier to officially knock over all of the borders and declare some sort of world state later if they can just ruin everything we have here first.Mar 30 21:00
DaemonFCThen nobody will care anymore.Mar 30 21:01
DaemonFChttps://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23003168/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory-news-column-campaign-gopMar 30 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook funded anti-TikTok campaign through GOP firm - The VergeMar 30 21:04
DaemonFChttps://www.shiftphones.com/Mar 30 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SHIFTPHONES - Nachhaltige Technologie aus DeutschlandMar 30 21:05
DaemonFCAbout the only way you ever hear of "Linux" support from the manufacturer is if it's a European company, or Chinese.Mar 30 21:05
DaemonFCThere's a lot of collusion in the US to make damned sure nobody hears about anything but Windows, Mac, and Google at the store.Mar 30 21:06
techrights-newsMicrosoft is faking it, just like Fakebookkk and other social control media (Twitter was also sued for it and lost) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/Mar 30 21:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 21:06
techrights-newsMirageOS Announces Latest Release v4.0, dedicated to Lars Kurth โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163159Mar 30 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MirageOS Announces Latest Release v4.0, dedicated to Lars Kurth | Tux MachinesMar 30 21:07
techrights-newsArm says devs need better multi-architecture support - El Reg โš“ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/arm_heterogeneous_compute/ ไท‰ Source: theregisterMar 30 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Arm says devs need better multi-architecture support โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 21:07
techrights-news"deliberately misconfigured version of CosmosDB and ended up with complete unrestricted access to the accounts and the databases of thousands of Microsoft Azure customers." https://forallsecure.com/blog/the-hacker-mind-follow-the-rabbit http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/Mar 30 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forallsecure.com | The Hacker Mind: Follow The RabbitMar 30 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | TechrightsMar 30 21:13
DaemonFCIt looks like Canonical really changed Ubuntu's software installer to demote Debian packages.Mar 30 21:13
DaemonFCSnap was failing so the natural thing is just force it on everyone.Mar 30 21:13
DaemonFCIt makes sense for them. It makes it pretty much impossible to fork Ubuntu because nobody else can use their package format. The server is proprietary and nobody knows how to make an alternative Snap package server.Mar 30 21:14
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DaemonFC-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theregister.com | 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe โ€ข The RegisterMar 30 21:15
DaemonFCTo defraud investors?Mar 30 21:15
activelowXRevan86: Putin resided in Dresden, which i remember how my application documents were treated thereMar 30 21:15
DaemonFC"Look at all these accounts!"Mar 30 21:15
activelowwhich was, they scraped various projects from it, opened accounts at the federal investment bank there, and denied my applicationMar 30 21:16
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activelowalthough, this wasn't the case in Dresden only; i had a similar experience with ministry of finance/germany (former finance minister Olaf Scholf, now chancellor) where i was invitedMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TR[21:15] <DaemonFC> "Look at all these accounts!"Mar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRtypicalMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRsocial control media in a nuitshellMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRfake being bigMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRshow off your bignessMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRand then people think they TOO need to create an accountMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRFOMOMar 30 21:17
activelowXRevan86: insofar, i do not know what the level of corruption in Russia is, in germany it has become murderous alreadyMar 30 21:17
schestowitz-TRgermany is corruptMar 30 21:18
schestowitz-TRsee epoMar 30 21:18
schestowitz-TRthe media is also very corruptMar 30 21:18
schestowitz-TRso it helps hide the corruptionMar 30 21:18
activelowwell, application documents aren't subject to patent claims, nonetheless it was systematic fraud and corruption at work, such often i couldn't keep track of it anymoreMar 30 21:19
techrights-newsfabrics???? https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-and-western-digital-begin-far-reaching-collaboration-to-drive-standardization-of-next-generation-storage-technologies-for-broader-ecosystem-support-and-customer-adoptionMar 30 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.samsung.com | Samsung and Western Digital Begin Far-Reaching Collaboration To Drive Standardization of Next-generation Storage Technologies for Broader Ecosystem Support and Customer Adoption โ€“ Samsung Global NewsroomMar 30 21:19
techrights-newsRedmonk itself is NOT "Vendor-Neutral"; it's s shilling operation disguised as "analysts"; they even name the paymasters. https://redmonk.com/kholterhoff/2022/03/24/vendor-vs-vendor-neutral-certifications/Mar 30 21:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-redmonk.com | Vendor vs Vendor-Neutral Certifications โ€“ console.log()Mar 30 21:21
DaemonFCThere's what Germany says about the former East Germany and what they do in practice.Mar 30 21:23
techrights-newsRedmonk: "Disclosure: AWS, GitHub, Google (GKE), IBM, Microsoft (AKS), Salesforce, and VMware are RedMonk clients." That's MICROSOFT TWICE. How corrupt does Redmonk want to get? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33220Mar 30 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux MachinesMar 30 21:23
DaemonFCWhat they say is that the infrastructure was very bad and they pump trillions into fixing it, and they had to close down nuclear power plants because of safety standards.Mar 30 21:23
activelowthe ministry of finance is located in the most western part of Germany, BonnMar 30 21:23
DaemonFCIn fact, they treat it like they were at war, and they conquered them.Mar 30 21:23
activelowso, the "business" habits don't differ that much, from Bonn to Moscow or whereverMar 30 21:24
DaemonFCEven in the US, federal money is just money they stole from the states and the state citizens to begin with.Mar 30 21:24
DaemonFCThey offer it back with conditions to corrupt and manipulate local governments.Mar 30 21:25
activelowsimilar experience with some EU funded projectsMar 30 21:25
activelowtogether with a melange of psychotic ideologyMar 30 21:26
DaemonFCIt's basically how leftists conspire to set state policy in places they can't win elections.Mar 30 21:26
DaemonFCAuthorize huge pots of "federal" money but only if conservatives change their laws first to one the Democrats like better.Mar 30 21:26
DaemonFCBlue states have finally overplayed their hand. They're the ones losing the House seats and electoral votes now.Mar 30 21:27
DaemonFCThe needle is moving away from the Democrats in the electoral college.Mar 30 21:28
activelowin germany the giant pots of public money can't be spent anymore, due to lack of substantial investmentsMar 30 21:28
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DaemonFC<activelow> in germany the giant pots of public money can't be spent anymore, due to lack of substantial investmentsMar 30 21:28
DaemonFCYes, brain drain and lack of people who want to do the work.Mar 30 21:28
activelowsuch as, there is a gigantic pot for optical fibre, yet missing company to roll outMar 30 21:28
activelowDaemonFC: i cannot anymore, even if i wanted to, that's the other irony of itMar 30 21:29
DaemonFCCongress is still acting like they can make it so just by passing funding for something.Mar 30 21:29
mateymincer daemonfc schestowitz schestowitz-tr and so it begins... https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/pull/61Mar 30 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solve one problem that bad_array_new_length is not thrown for certainโ€ฆ by chumarshal1 ยท Pull Request #61 ยท gcc-mirror/gcc ยท GitHubMar 30 21:29
activelowi had enough of it, 2005 alreadyMar 30 21:29
MinceRgcc moving to MICROS~1 github?Mar 30 21:29
matey(dfc because hes the one sure to get the quote)Mar 30 21:29
mateymoving? nahMar 30 21:29
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mateyjust getting a hugMar 30 21:30
matey"mirror"Mar 30 21:30
mateymirror will pull requests in 2022Mar 30 21:30
MinceR:(Mar 30 21:30
mateynote that its still JUST incidental enough that theres not much gcc people can do about itMar 30 21:30
mateybut the avalanche has already startedMar 30 21:30
bnchsmincerMar 30 21:30
matey(another quote dfc knows)Mar 30 21:30
bnchsthe best way to avoid thisMar 30 21:30
DaemonFCIt's too late for the pebbles to vote?Mar 30 21:30
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtEMar 30 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtEMar 30 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Hugs! yugioh Abridged Melvin'd quotes - InvidiousMar 30 21:30
mateyyepMar 30 21:31
bnchsis to mirror the pull requests to mail requestsMar 30 21:31
mateyanyway people looking for doom and gloom have better reason than thisMar 30 21:31
mateybnchs: that helps in one way, makes this permanent in anotherMar 30 21:31
mateythe fact is, gcc became part of ibmhub a long time agoMar 30 21:31
schestowitz-TRmatey: the account name is gcc-mirrorMar 30 21:31
mateywhat do i always say about mirrors royMar 30 21:32
schestowitz-TRwhich means that as soon as they touched it they made it very clear what it isMar 30 21:32
bnchsyou cant disable pull requestsMar 30 21:32
schestowitz-TRbut neverthelessMar 30 21:32
schestowitz-TRnot a good thingMar 30 21:32
mateyi know bnchsMar 30 21:32
schestowitz-TRI was just writing about gfithubMar 30 21:32
mateybe sure to add why this isnt a problem royMar 30 21:32
DaemonFCLAME is still using Forged Source.Mar 30 21:32
DaemonFC:)Mar 30 21:32
mateyanywayMar 30 21:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/Mar 30 21:32
DaemonFCFrom way back in the day.Mar 30 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | TechrightsMar 30 21:32
schestowitztypos possibleMar 30 21:32
schestowitzdraftMar 30 21:32
schestowitzreport typosMar 30 21:32
mateyno they cant disable pull requestsMar 30 21:32
mateybut they can put a note saying dont use themMar 30 21:32
DaemonFCForged Source had the malware installer scandal.Mar 30 21:32
mateyif you dont stand up to this, people will have it take overMar 30 21:33
DaemonFCAnd now they mirror GitHub and pretend like there's still projects using Forged Source.Mar 30 21:33
mateyforged source had different owners thenMar 30 21:33
mateythe new ones fixed the malware (and now just dump clown shit on it)Mar 30 21:33
mateybut they did fix the malware issueMar 30 21:33
mateythe clown shit is annoying-- i hit a pile of clown shit on clownhub today tooMar 30 21:33
mateyif github isnt the clown, what isMar 30 21:34
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mateybut the bigger problem for gcc (for now) isnt the mirror that has pull requstsMar 30 21:34
mateythe bigger problem is still ibmMar 30 21:34
techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/Mar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRassMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRrms broMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRibm brosMar 30 21:35
mateyoh hes dead leave him beMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRyeahMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRif trueMar 30 21:35
mateyand i never was sure adam stallman was the same one at ibmMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRthat info is not reliableMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRand... to be fairMar 30 21:35
mateyno i dont consider it reliable eitherMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRassuming he worked there until a decade agoMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRibm was not bad to usMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRthey helped gnu, linux, odfMar 30 21:35
mateyit was trollish, but not the antichristMar 30 21:35
schestowitz-TRthey turned sour much laterMar 30 21:36
matey^ themselvesMar 30 21:36
mateyhelped themselvesMar 30 21:36
schestowitz-TRwith ginni the apple fanMar 30 21:36
mateyi think they were closer to neutral with more than a hint of selfishMar 30 21:36
techrights-newsMicrosoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights โš“ http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | โ™พ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/Mar 30 21:36
mateysupporting patents and whatnotMar 30 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | TechrightsMar 30 21:36
schestowitz-TRoinMar 30 21:36
mateymore like a frenemyMar 30 21:36
schestowitz-TRopenofficeMar 30 21:36
schestowitz-TRfor symfonyMar 30 21:36
schestowitz-TRall in all it did not feel like they attacked usMar 30 21:37
schestowitz-TRwith their rogue interestsMar 30 21:37
mateyand i dont believe they just turned evil one dayMar 30 21:37
schestowitz-TRthat happened in more recent yearsMar 30 21:37
mateywhich means they were always planning something worse imoMar 30 21:37
schestowitz-TRand more so with them trying to monetise red hat and the swpatsMar 30 21:37
mateythey were a frenemy-- not nearly as bad as microsoftMar 30 21:37
mateyand the fsf saidMar 30 21:37
mateysure, let red hat host gcc and gdbMar 30 21:38
mateywhats the worst that could happenMar 30 21:38
schestowitz-TRukraine: let putin keep crimeaMar 30 21:38
schestowitz-TRpeace for our timeMar 30 21:38
mateybut just for the record, right now i think ibm is the bigger threat to gcc and gdbMar 30 21:38
schestowitz-TRputin lickedMar 30 21:38
schestowitz-TRnot he bitesMar 30 21:38
mateythe fact that there are pull requests on the gcc mirror on github thoughMar 30 21:38
mateythats badMar 30 21:38
schestowitz-TR*nowMar 30 21:38
schestowitz-TRsame in linux kernelMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRtorvalds closes themnMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRand heyMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRif the PRs are goodMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRand importantMar 30 21:39
mateyoh godMar 30 21:39
mateynoMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRthe submitted would do it the right wayMar 30 21:39
mateyyesMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRand join the mailing listMar 30 21:39
mateyrightMar 30 21:39
schestowitz-TRif not, the changes are likely junkMar 30 21:39
mateybutMar 30 21:40
mateyif it becomes a thingMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRlike typo correction or "I am from UMN"Mar 30 21:40
mateyand no one stops itMar 30 21:40
mateypretty soon they could have so manyMar 30 21:40
mateythat some idiot is sayingMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRnoMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRif thgey ignore them allMar 30 21:40
mateyhey, just saying, maybe we should have someone accept these prsMar 30 21:40
mateyand review themMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRand don't even replyMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRthen it's like #techrights in librea chatMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRthat channel diedMar 30 21:40
mateythey should replyMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRsame in freenodeMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRpeople can speakMar 30 21:40
schestowitz-TRnobody would replyMar 30 21:40
mateygithub isnt a problem that will go away based on do-nothingismMar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TRthe URL SLUG is clearMar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TRGCC-MIRRORMar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TRis the submitter Mar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TR1) does not know what mirror meansMar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TR2) cannot figures how to send plain text emailMar 30 21:41
mateyif gcc-mirror is submitting prs to itselfMar 30 21:41
mateyeven a year laterMar 30 21:41
mateythen this is deliberate fuckeryMar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TR3) cannot understand how the project workMar 30 21:41
mateynot ignoranceMar 30 21:41
mateynopeMar 30 21:41
schestowitz-TRthen it's very likely the person isn't a coderMar 30 21:42
mateyi dont care if its molly and her hair is green nowMar 30 21:42
mateythis is deliberately badMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TRbut a "hypocrite" (UMN) or saboteur or hipsterMar 30 21:42
mateydefinitely one of thoseMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TRlike people who suggests in the kernel mailing lists that they should move to c# and pytionMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TRfor the kernelMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TRpython!Mar 30 21:42
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mateylol@python kernelMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TRthat was suggested by a guy from MICROSOFTMar 30 21:42
mateybetter than rust, still lolMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TRKeigh CurtusMar 30 21:42
schestowitz-TR*Keith CurtisMar 30 21:43
matey/me tries to imagine how you could actually make a python kernelMar 30 21:43
schestowitz-TRpython3 kernelMar 30 21:43
matey"ctypes"Mar 30 21:43
matey"stfu"Mar 30 21:43
mateypython3! the rust of pythonMar 30 21:43
matey2007: ironpython 2027: rustpythonMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRbtwMar 30 21:44
matey2032: p#Mar 30 21:44
bnchswait wtfMar 30 21:44
bnchspython kernel?Mar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRwatch the latest libreplanet talk I posted in techrightsMar 30 21:44
mateybnchs: im sure they were trollingMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRabout 5 hours agoMar 30 21:44
mateytitleMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRhe explained how python3 broke gamesMar 30 21:44
mateyhe whoMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRand then he had to spend loads of time trying to fix themMar 30 21:44
mateyyeah python 3 is an npiMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRand once packaged they would have other issuesMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRthe code was the sameMar 30 21:44
mateyso is rustMar 30 21:44
schestowitz-TRonly python changedMar 30 21:45
schestowitz-TRand then changed again and againMar 30 21:45
schestowitz-TReven python3 itself..Mar 30 21:45
schestowitz-TRgetting urlMar 30 21:45
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/Mar 30 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | TechrightsMar 30 21:45
mateypython 3 isnt a language, its a webapi cleverly disguised as a language-- same as rustMar 30 21:45
schestowitz-TRcanonical had the same issues with python3Mar 30 21:45
schestowitz-TRwe still use loads of python2 stuffMar 30 21:45
mateyits a clown languageMar 30 21:45
mateywhen canonical wont bend over for it you KNOW its badMar 30 21:45
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schestowitz-TRif you have 500,000 lines of codeMar 30 21:46
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mateywe still use loads of python2 stuf <- if python 2 disappears i might spend years forking itMar 30 21:46
mateyi wouldnt fork the whole thingMar 30 21:46
schestowitz-TRsearch and replace does not make the issue go awayMar 30 21:46
mateyjust the parts that i give a shit aboutMar 30 21:46
schestowitz-TRsome upgrader scriptMar 30 21:46
schestowitz-TRyou can just blindly run against the codeMar 30 21:46
mateyi dont think pypy can ditch pypy2 fwiwMar 30 21:46
schestowitz-TRyou need to check what you change, then do lots of testingMar 30 21:46
mateythere are reasons some things stickMar 30 21:46
schestowitz-TRacross platforms tooMar 30 21:46
mateylike pypy2 isnt just in it for "choice"Mar 30 21:46
schestowitz-TRjust to MAINTAIN what ALREADY workedMar 30 21:46
mateyits a design decision Mar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRhe praised SDL for API consistencyMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRand backward compatMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRbutMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRSDL is now shithubMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRthey moved ladt year, iircMar 30 21:47
mateysdl = sdl2 = opengl = vulkan  = githubMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRSDL2, very disappointingMar 30 21:47
mateybut sdl WAS pretty stableMar 30 21:47
mateyi used it in my own softwareMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRnot reeallyMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRnot 20 years agoMar 30 21:47
matey20 years ago?Mar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRwhen I was a student another student with the same supervisor used SDLMar 30 21:47
mateyi definitely mean more recentlyMar 30 21:47
schestowitz-TRwhich turned out to be a mistake Mar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TRas it had loads of issues in itMar 30 21:48
mateyok well obviously no software starts out stableMar 30 21:48
mateythats a contradiction in termsMar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TReven more than 20 years agoMar 30 21:48
mateyso when i say it was stableMar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TR2001 iircMar 30 21:48
mateyi mean after it became stable, but that should go without sayingMar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TRsomeone wrote a game in itMar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TRand regretted itMar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TRlagrange is written in sdl btwMar 30 21:48
mateythe fact that it had a non-stable period before that is literally all software everMar 30 21:48
schestowitz-TRodd choice for a non-gameMar 30 21:48
mateysdl has been used for a few non-game thingsMar 30 21:49
schestowitz-TRlagrange paste bugs remainMar 30 21:49
mateybasically its less trouble to roll your own solutions if you dont like a bunch of unstable crap like i dunno, gtkMar 30 21:49
schestowitz-TRfor over a year alreadyMar 30 21:49
schestowitz-TRit cannot cope with select to clipboardMar 30 21:49
mateywhen more projects use sdl for gui, you know the other gui options have failedMar 30 21:49
mateybecause sdl isnt really a gui, its a canvasMar 30 21:49
mateywhen people are drawing their own controls, gui toolkits have failed horriblyMar 30 21:50
mateythe whole point of a gui toolkit is to save you the troublMar 30 21:50
mateywhen they are too much trouble, theyve failed at the one job they hadMar 30 21:50
psydruidand that's the crux of the storyMar 30 21:50
mateyi still like tkMar 30 21:50
mateybut i guess it wouldnt be too popular in pakistanMar 30 21:51
mateysince it seems to get arabic wrongMar 30 21:51
mateyas a plus, it doesnt need hardbuzzMar 30 21:51
mateyharfbuzzMar 30 21:51
mateyas a minus, it cant seem to handle arabicMar 30 21:51
psydruidbut it does get devanagari right?Mar 30 21:51
mateyor some other thingsMar 30 21:51
mateybasic devanagariMar 30 21:52
mateythe thing about computers and hindi isMar 30 21:52
mateyroman characters are more common because full devanagari keyboards are expensiveMar 30 21:52
mateyso people handwrite it but type roman lettersMar 30 21:52
mateyits practicalMar 30 21:52
bnchsmatey: sdl is still great for cross-platform shit thoMar 30 21:53
mateyyeah im a fan of sdl, its one of the few 3rd party libs ive even usedMar 30 21:53
schestowitz-TReven mobileMar 30 21:53
psydruidtyping devanagari on a US keyboard is a struggle for meMar 30 21:53
psydruidI can never find all charactersMar 30 21:54
mateykuch nehi, chinta mat karoMar 30 21:54
psydruidit's much easier using an onscreen keyboard such as Openboard on Android sadlyMar 30 21:55
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psydruidso that would be nice to have on a GNU/Linux tablet for input of complex character setsMar 30 21:55
techrights-newsUsing the openSUSE Build Service to build software for POWER | Random thoughts of Peter โ€™CzPโ€™ Czanik โš“ https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/power-opensuse-build-service/ ไท‰ Source: peter czanikMar 30 21:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Using the openSUSE Build Service to build software for POWER | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' CzanikMar 30 21:57
techrights-newsNew Linux kernel patch speeds up server shutdowns โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163160Mar 30 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux kernel patch speeds up server shutdowns | Tux MachinesMar 30 21:58
matey/me has xvkbd but its pretty crapMar 30 22:00
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163161Mar 30 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 30 22:00
mateywhat i meant is that a lot of people just use roman characters (transliterated)Mar 30 22:01
mateyand save devanagari lettering for handwritingMar 30 22:01
mateyand professional typesettingMar 30 22:01
mateyim not even talking about input methods Mar 30 22:03
matey(like ive seen pinyin input methods for producing chinese characters)Mar 30 22:03
techrights-newsTodayโ€™s #HowTos | #UNIX โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163162Mar 30 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 30 22:04
techrights-newsCanonical/Ubuntu: โ€™Clownโ€™ Computing, &#039;Smart&#039; Homes, and &#039;IoT&#039; Buzzwords โ€ข Tux Machines โ‡จ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163163Mar 30 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu: 'Clown' Computing, 'Smart' Homes, and 'IoT' Buzzwords | Tux MachinesMar 30 22:04
mateythe difference between roman hindi and input method is the latter (only) produces native charactersMar 30 22:04
mateyyeh roman hindi haiMar 30 22:04
DaemonFCCalifornia is a shit sandwich from top to bottom, but literally thanks to San Francisco.Mar 30 22:05
DaemonFCThe "bullet train to nowhere" that won't be any faster than Metra or Amtrak once every two bit town has a stop.Mar 30 22:05
DaemonFCRunning out of water and suggesting a twist of lemon to get rid of the dirt flavor.Mar 30 22:05
DaemonFCWorst taxes in the nation.Mar 30 22:05
mateybut literally thanks to San Francisco <- deja pooMar 30 22:05
DaemonFCCrime unpunished and out of control due to liberal prosecutor that might actually face a recall in California for unleashing the Kraken on the idiots that voted for him.Mar 30 22:06
DaemonFCI was on the fairly early Internet. Before most had it in their homes. Not old enough for Mosaic, but definitely old enough to use Netscape 3/4.Mar 30 22:07
DaemonFCSpeaking of Deja.....Mar 30 22:07
mateypsydruid do you use any browser that supports js?Mar 30 22:07
mateyeven for tasks other than browsing?Mar 30 22:07
DaemonFCI liked Deja News before Google bought them, ruined it, and turned it into Google Groups, and then censored it by unsubscribing me from newsgroups it did not like.Mar 30 22:08
DaemonFCDeja News was one of the sites I liked so well it was in my bookmarks bar.Mar 30 22:08
psydruidmatey, falkon and netsurf mainlyMar 30 22:09
mateyok falkon should do itMar 30 22:09
mateyi cant netsurf to do anything with js other than failMar 30 22:09
psydruidand yes, using roman is the defaultMar 30 22:09
mateyok i have a project i think i can complete in a couple hoursMar 30 22:09
mateyyoull love itMar 30 22:09
psydruidthat's coolMar 30 22:10
mateyand if you dont, its no problemMar 30 22:10
matey/me demonstrates the evil power of js at what it truly does best :/Mar 30 22:10
psydruidnah, it's just so frustrating when I can do such things here on Android very easilyMar 30 22:10
mateyyoull be able to do them without android tooMar 30 22:10
*psydruid uses the same xmpp account across devicesMar 30 22:11
psydruidConversations here and Dino on my laptopMar 30 22:11
DaemonFCSo Ubuntu is probably not on the table.Mar 30 22:11
DaemonFCThey've removed GNOME Software and written their own package installer that promotes Snaps instead.Mar 30 22:12
mateyawfulMar 30 22:12
DaemonFCIt's fair to say they're not a Debian derivative anymore.Mar 30 22:12
mateyif theres one thing worse than gnome Mar 30 22:12
mateyits snapsMar 30 22:12
mateyhell, its fair to say debian isnt a debian derivative anymoreMar 30 22:12
mateyubuntu isnt even a distroMar 30 22:12
mateyits more of a distruMar 30 22:13
mateydestruMar 30 22:13
mateyits a weapon of gnu/linux distributionMar 30 22:13
psydruidเคฎเฅˆเค‚ เคฏเคนเคพเค เคธเคฌ เคฒเคฟเค– เคธเค•เคคเคพ เคนเฅ‚เค เฅคMar 30 22:13
DaemonFCI'd recommend Fedora before this. This is awful.Mar 30 22:14
matey/me cant read it anywayMar 30 22:14
psydruidit was just an exampleMar 30 22:14
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DaemonFCUbuntu slid to #6 on Distrowatch and Kubuntu to #19.Mar 30 22:14
DaemonFCI remember when the top 5 were all based on Ubuntu.Mar 30 22:14
psydruidmain yahaan sab likh sakta hunMar 30 22:14
mateysakta kya matlabMar 30 22:15
DaemonFCDebian is also falling down the list.Mar 30 22:15
DaemonFCJust not as fast.Mar 30 22:15
DaemonFCSeems Manjaro is getting a lot of attention.Mar 30 22:16
DaemonFCCanonical seems fine with asset stripping Ubuntu of anything that won't make money in the short term.Mar 30 22:17
psydruidsakta ka matlab angrezi mein "able" haiMar 30 22:17
DaemonFCShort term, accepting Microsoft cash makes money.Mar 30 22:17
DaemonFCLong term, it ruins your business.Mar 30 22:18
mateyohho theek haiMar 30 22:18
DaemonFCI wonder what Walmart is using these days.Mar 30 22:18
DaemonFCThat Novell-Microsoft deal was mostly about Walmart.Mar 30 22:18
DaemonFCThey deemed Windows unsuitable to run at their scale except as a thin client.Mar 30 22:19
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DaemonFCIt's gotten to the point where Windows can only manage simple tasks, so I have no idea why Walmart even uses the thin client versions.Mar 30 22:19
bnchsmatey: i was gonna say this before my ISP rapes my connectionMar 30 22:20
bnchsbut i ported a few SDL games to the PS3 and they were easy as fuckMar 30 22:20
DaemonFC" Clement Lefebvre has announced the release of a brand-new version of Linux Mint's Debian edition, better known as LMDE. The new release is based on Debian 11 and uses the Cinnamon desktop: "The team is proud to announce the release of LMDE 5 'Elsie'." The release announcement contains a brief introduction to LMDE, while the release notes provide a list of known issues: "To launch the installer in expert mode, run the following command: sudo Mar 30 22:21
DaemonFClive-installer-expert-mode. To install LMDE on an existing LVM partition you must first remove it from the LVM volumes and groups to which it belongs. In manual partitioning mode, note that the installer will auto-mount all swap partitions. These partitions will also be placed in /etc/fstab in the installed system. The LMDE ISO images and the live installer use a different structure than the ones used by other distributions. Do not use Yumi or Mar 30 22:21
DaemonFCmulti-boot technologies with LMDE as it won't install properly. The root account is locked by default. To use the recovery console (from the Grub menu) or log in as root, you first need to give root a new password: sudo passwd root.""Mar 30 22:21
DaemonFCLinux Mint is fine to recommend to people with the stipulation that they use the Debian Edition.Mar 30 22:21
DaemonFCCanonical already showed that Ubuntu is not a stable base and that they will commit hostilities using pettifogger attorneys with "creative" interpretations of the law.Mar 30 22:22
bnchsso i can see the pain of using tor with cloudflare websitesMar 30 22:22
DaemonFCAnd they do subtle things to corrupt distributions that base on them.Mar 30 22:22
bnchsa few months agoMar 30 22:22
psydruidI guess someone wasn't joking when I asked this person what toolkit I should use to write software for Windows and they answered "DirectX", even though the answer should have been SDLMar 30 22:22
bnchsthe cloudflare websites worked, but nowMar 30 22:22
matey<bnchs> but i ported a few SDL games to the PS3 and they were easy as fuck <- thats awesomeMar 30 22:25
mateyas much as i hate sony foreverMar 30 22:25
matey/me hasnt forgiven them in 17 yearsMar 30 22:25
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mateyhe wasnt kidding about the ispMar 30 22:25
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bnchsirc is alot more stabler in ethernet than wifiMar 30 22:27
bnchsprobably jammers in areaMar 30 22:27
bnchsmatey: the PS3 hacking community is trying to port opengl to PS3 (as a library)Mar 30 22:29
bnchsit actually uses mesaMar 30 22:29
bnchsand nouveau driversMar 30 22:29
psydruiddo you have access to the bare metal including the ability to run your own operating system on it instead of their hypervisor?Mar 30 22:31
DaemonFC"LMDE aims to be as similar as possible to Linux Mint, but without using Ubuntu. The package base is provided by Debian instead."Mar 30 22:32
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DaemonFCMajor improvement. At least you don't have to worry about Snaps and Pettifogger attacks that way.Mar 30 22:33
bnchs__psydruid: only in an eariler firmware versionMar 30 22:33
bnchs__and you can only downgrade with QA mode enabledMar 30 22:34
bnchs__(aka game tester mode)Mar 30 22:34
activelownever grasped the idea, why Ubuntu forked from Debian (among many other spin-offs); why is a separate distribution necessary instead of simply apt-get install <whatever window manager>Mar 30 22:34
activelowand changing some GTK themeMar 30 22:35
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bnchswas wrongMar 30 22:43
bnchsit was simply a football nightMar 30 22:43
bnchswhere everyone in the country watches the football match livestreamMar 30 22:43
DaemonFChttps://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089264644/is-it-cake-netflixMar 30 22:45
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: npr.org | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089264644/is-it-cake-netflixMar 30 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | The case for 'Is It Cake?,' Netflix's new game show : NPRMar 30 22:45
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, $20 a month to guess if something is cake or not.Mar 30 22:45
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psydruidwasn't that yesterday?Mar 30 22:48
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XRevan86https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_engMar 30 23:04
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: zona.media | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_engMar 30 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Ukrainian refugee โ€˜interviewโ€™ about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the sourceMar 30 23:04
activelow^ funded by german "social democrats" and "alliance90/greens"Mar 30 23:05
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XRevan86activelow: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/004/592/misc-jackie-chan-l.jpgMar 30 23:06
activelowhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Mitgliedern_der_Atlantik-Br%C3%BCckeMar 30 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-de.wikipedia.org | Liste von Mitgliedern der Atlantik-Brรผcke โ€“ WikipediaMar 30 23:07
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XRevan86I'll assume it wasn't a comment on the link I gave, but I've no idea what the comment was actually about then.Mar 30 23:08
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activelowfunneling billions of cash into russia, in parallel supplying ukraine with weapons... and nuckling the last drip of oil and gas out of Ukraine/Russian pipelinesMar 30 23:08
MinceRhttps://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FETpYFbYUwAAo2A-.jpg%3Fname%3DorigMar 30 23:09
activelowrecently, they are planning to acquire F-35 from USA, build Intel semiconductor plants in east-germany, and buy Israeli missile systemsMar 30 23:09
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activelowsome other rumors: 250 Abrams tanks brought to Poland (unverified)Mar 30 23:11
DaemonFCI doubt Biden went off script.Mar 30 23:11
DaemonFCREGIME CHANGE. Putin will be taken out somehow.Mar 30 23:11
MinceRgoodMar 30 23:12
MinceRthey should hurry up and kill that asshole before more people die because of himMar 30 23:12
MinceRor better yet, start killing him, but kill him slowlyMar 30 23:12
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activelowbecause of whom? Burisma and affiliates?Mar 30 23:13
MinceRbecause of his war crimes and other crimes against humanityMar 30 23:14
XRevan86activelow: "funneling billions of cash into russia, in parallel supplying ukraine with weapons... and nuckling the last drip of oil and gas out of Ukraine/Russian pipelines" <- [citation needed]Mar 30 23:15
DaemonFCI don't think the US will go to war with Russia. I think there will be an element of the Russian government, inside the FSB, that gets rid of Putin.Mar 30 23:15
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MinceRthat may not be up for the US to decide, unless they're willing to surrender unconditionallyMar 30 23:15
MinceRi wonder if someone inside putler's inner circle will really be willing to get rid of himMar 30 23:16
activelowXRevan86: 24/7 broadcasted on german tv and newspapers flooded. although i had not heard reports anymore about the operational status of the Ukraine pipeline attached to german energy/gas gridMar 30 23:16
activelowlast reports were, "Alliance90/greens" (atlantic bridge minion war criminals) prepare for energy emergency plans activatedMar 30 23:16
activelowand, whatever corona-lockdown was before, they are planning for more of thisMar 30 23:17
activelowto ration oil and gas supplies (i haven't any anyway)Mar 30 23:17
XRevan86activelow: Mediazona has 24/7 broadcast in Germany? Amazing! Tell them that, they'll love it.Mar 30 23:18
activelowXRevan86: this one wasn't broadcasted in germany https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_engMar 30 23:18
-altlink_63e/#techrights-๐Ÿ“ฃ Cloudflare: zona.media | ๐Ÿ™† Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_engMar 30 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Ukrainian refugee โ€˜interviewโ€™ about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the sourceMar 30 23:18
MinceRXRevan86: https://ircz.de/m/pics/2019/08/14/08/51/44/564a27e59eae4189b100bcf7b34d6fd4.jpegMar 30 23:21
XRevan86MinceR: ๐Ÿค” <https://emojipedia.org/thinking-face/>Mar 30 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emojipedia.org | ๐Ÿค” Thinking Face EmojiMar 30 23:21
MinceR:)Mar 30 23:22
XRevan86goddamitMar 30 23:22
XRevan86I was distracted.Mar 30 23:22
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XRevan86coub.com is dying, I dumped everything that was ever mentioned in my history and now reviewing if everything is all right. And reminiscing.Mar 30 23:22
XRevan86(it should be obvious I don't have an "Emoji Picker")Mar 30 23:23
MinceR:>Mar 30 23:23
kingoffrancei interpreted that "shot by the FSB' differently the first glance ;0Mar 30 23:34
MinceR:>Mar 30 23:35
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22032169Mar 30 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/NxqyjtF.jpg created on 2022-03-21 17:58:16.882806Mar 30 23:40
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