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| DaemonFC | I don't have any Horse Pepsi, but I have a Horse Coke. | Mar 29 00:19 |
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| MinceR | Horse Choke? | Mar 29 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | For some reason, when people see it, they say NAAAAAAAAY!!! | Mar 29 00:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 00:21 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft 365 ads on Tubi. LOL | Mar 29 00:57 |
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| DaemonFC | I've switched mainly to instant coffee recently. | Mar 29 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the regular coffee is up about 40% and they didn't do that to instant yet, and there were good rebates too lately, so looks like that's what I'll have for a while. | Mar 29 01:22 |
| activelow | be careful with it, instant coffee overdosed on an empty stomach... this is what i had this morning | Mar 29 01:22 |
| activelow | rediscovered a traditional german cuisine, which is cooked white cabbage, then mildly roasted grinded meat mixed into, spiced with cumarin and salt, with lots of margarine | Mar 29 01:25 |
| activelow | kept german farmers alive for hundreds of years, easy on the stomach, nutritios, and best of it only natural flavors | Mar 29 01:25 |
| activelow | white cabbage contains some mustord oils, which together with cumarin adds a delicate taste to it | Mar 29 01:26 |
| activelow | and, it is cheap, a pot with a half head of cabbage, 800grams of grinded meat, and margarine, for ~5Euros, and lasts three days, together with bread | Mar 29 01:27 |
| MinceR | they had margarine for hundreds of years? | Mar 29 01:28 |
| activelow | yes, Napoleon Bonaparte introduced margarine; and traditional pig breeds contained more fat than today | Mar 29 01:29 |
| activelow | i prefer margarine, easier on stomach, and contains some vitamin-d | Mar 29 01:29 |
| MinceR | that was 153 years ago, i wasn't sure if that's "hundreds" :> | Mar 29 01:31 |
| activelow | sure, my grandparents used pork bacon instead | Mar 29 01:32 |
| activelow | another delicate farmers meal, green cabbage (wirsing) with pork; although this takes too long to prepare | Mar 29 01:33 |
| activelow | after eating grinded meat with paprika cream for month, gladly i rediscovered "Schichtkohl" | Mar 29 01:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Farmers ate some pretty heavy stuff back in the day. | Mar 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | I hear that rice is very expensive in Japan because of protectionist laws. | Mar 29 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Perhaps 40% higher than it would otherwise cost. | Mar 29 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, they eat a ton of it and most of them live to old age. | Mar 29 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | The doctors here all tell us don't eat rice. | Mar 29 02:02 |
| activelow | most of my grandparents reached 90years+; although eating what doctors typically advice not to | Mar 29 02:03 |
| activelow | yet, i am smoking cigarettes, they didn't | Mar 29 02:03 |
| activelow | the east-german cuisine was better quality anyway, in comparison to the western one | Mar 29 02:04 |
| activelow | oranges, bananas and other tropical fruit weren't available, nonetheless there was many varieties available | Mar 29 02:05 |
| AdmFubar | don't eat domestic rice | Mar 29 02:06 |
| activelow | the strawberries from the garden were the best, smaller in size, harvested when ripe and sweet, and a different variety than what is sold in supermarkets | Mar 29 02:07 |
| activelow | and a special type of berry, similar to wine, which i think was the berry wine derived from by selective breeding; grown in every garden | Mar 29 02:09 |
| AdmFubar | ??? | Mar 29 02:15 |
| activelow | sorry, mind slipped into the past | Mar 29 02:16 |
| AdmFubar | I'm wondering what is a berry that is similar to wine... | Mar 29 02:17 |
| activelow | Stachelbeere | Mar 29 02:17 |
| AdmFubar | sure they are "insolvent" now.. yeah yeah that's the ticket https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-28/spyware-vendor-finfisher-claims-insolvency-amid-investigation | Mar 29 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Mar 29 02:18 | |
| AdmFubar | :P gooseberries... | Mar 29 02:18 |
| AdmFubar | bloomberg site sounds like Shpongle lyrics... | Mar 29 02:26 |
| activelow | FinFisher renamed to Vilicious Holding GmbH recently; it's probably a shell company of the government anyway, for accounting purposes, camouflaging as a private business entity to source staff | Mar 29 02:31 |
| activelow | don't think ministry of the interior would directly appear as business entity on "labor market" and similar | Mar 29 02:32 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmVsotEYMNPE1dyPEZpAQ81YQFtSrxNxJNRyba9tPacbNr | Mar 29 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Mar 29 03:07 |
| activelow | mistake, it isn't cumarin, it is caraway added to white cabbage | Mar 29 03:39 |
| AdmFubar | oh... just where will this go..... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-security-feature-blocks-vulnerable-drivers/ | Mar 29 03:41 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-security-feature-blocks-vulnerable-drivers/ | Mar 29 03:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Windows security feature blocks vulnerable drivers | Mar 29 03:41 | |
| AdmFubar | cumarin? perhaps you mean cumin? | Mar 29 03:42 |
| MinceR | furanocoumarin | Mar 29 03:43 |
| AdmFubar | I need to stay away from that stuff.... | Mar 29 03:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 03:47 |
| activelow | Kümmel | Mar 29 03:54 |
| activelow | problem with Kraut (cabbage) is digestion if Kümmel isn't added | Mar 29 03:56 |
| activelow | caraway combined with mustard (sharp and sour radish oils) is delicate | Mar 29 03:56 |
| activelow | always wondered, when Mc Donalds arrived in East-Germany they, the Muricans, don't know how to prepare meat with spices | Mar 29 03:57 |
| activelow | they're only adding sweetened sauce to it; and the price; for 5Euros i can prepare a pot of cabbage and grinded meat which lasts three days | Mar 29 03:59 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, March 28, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Mar 29 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Mar 29 05:50 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Mar 29 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Mar 29 05:50 | |
| techrights-news | puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163093 | Mar 29 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) | Tux Machines | Mar 29 05:55 | |
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| techrights-news | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk on Free Software in the French Public Administration | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/free-software-france/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/free-software-france/ | Mar 29 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk on Free Software in the French Public Administration | Techrights | Mar 29 06:09 | |
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| AdmFubar | http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=313215 | Mar 29 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | GitHub explains reasons behind the past week's outages • The Register | Mar 29 06:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Between 2022-03-22 and 2022-03-29 there were 20 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 217 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 9.2 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-clients-2022-03-29/ | Mar 29 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-03-29 Edition - Boiling Steam | Mar 29 06:15 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag kills what it buys, including RSS https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/03/29/feedburner-dying/ | Mar 29 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Feedburner Seems to be Dying « etbe - Russell Coker | Mar 29 06:17 | |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: blame "open source" | Mar 29 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: microsoft: github is proprietarey | Mar 29 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's down | Mar 29 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's nto github's fault | Mar 29 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | blame some open source something | Mar 29 06:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the criminals from Microsoft show their true selves | Mar 29 06:19 |
| AdmFubar | roy... chill out and have a laugh at their expense ;) | Mar 29 06:21 |
| techrights-news | This past 1-2 weeks lots of sites which had foolishly outsourced to clownflare lost all their visitors. Esp. those who used RSS feeds. RSS readers don't do JavaScript. | Mar 29 06:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: [05:55] <techrights-news> puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163093 | Mar 29 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to stop the outsourcing | Mar 29 06:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's an attack not just on software freedom | Mar 29 06:22 |
| techrights-news | Site "linuxsecurity" continues linking to Linux FUD https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-trends/some-developers-are-fouling-up-open-source-software Microsoft shipping malware is not an "open source" issue; the media spins it a lot | Mar 29 06:23 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-trends/some-developers-are-fouling-up-open-source-software | Mar 29 06:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some developers are fouling up open-source software | LinuxSecurity... | Mar 29 06:23 | |
| techrights-news | xkcd: Spacecraft Debris Odds Ratio ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2599/ ䷉ Source: xkcd | Mar 29 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Spacecraft Debris Odds Ratio | Mar 29 06:24 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: xkcd.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2599/ | Mar 29 06:24 | |
| techrights-news | “This talk is titled “From GNU Emacs to code.gouv.fr,” and was presented at LibrePlanet 2022 by Bastien Guerry. Bastien is the free software officer for the French public administration" http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/free-software-france/ | Mar 29 06:24 |
| AdmFubar | excuses excuses https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/insiders-say-apple-is-reducing-production-because-of-inflation | Mar 29 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple reportedly slashing iPhone production on weak demand - Protocol | Mar 29 06:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR | no no | Mar 29 06:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, it's true | Mar 29 06:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not in the way they put it | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's inflation | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on lies partly | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | so people spend less | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cannot spend more | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they go, | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hang on a second" | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "why do we spent so much money on this Apple junk?" | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we could get cheaper equipment | Mar 29 06:27 |
| AdmFubar | remember this? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grants | Mar 29 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is doling out $200,000 'retention grants' to keep people from leaving - Protocol | Mar 29 06:27 | |
| schestowitz-TR | so apple sales are down | Mar 29 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple: it's inflation's fault | Mar 29 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, true | Mar 29 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe lower your pricing threefold | Mar 29 06:28 |
| AdmFubar | hard to biuld em when you don't have staff | Mar 29 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I saw the retention grants | Mar 29 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 days agi | Mar 29 06:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not good for workers | Mar 29 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | less work/employer mobility means they fix the salaries lower | Mar 29 06:29 |
| techrights-news | In this weakening/collapsing economy it is hardly surprising that demand for Apple's junk has plunged. Last year they stunned shareholders. Bubble of a company... | Mar 29 06:30 |
| techrights-news | Who sponsors Phoronix? Not the reader. New photo: https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=too_much_nvme_lrg | Mar 29 06:32 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=too_much_nvme_lrg | Mar 29 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Phoronix] Image (Too Much Nvme) | Mar 29 06:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: ^^^^ | Mar 29 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | how much on ebay? | Mar 29 06:33 |
| techrights-news | I should actually be glad that many sites suffered this past week for outsourcing to Microsoft GitHub and Clownflare, but I cannot reach them. Some of them are sites I like. Maybe lessons learned? | Mar 29 06:34 |
| techrights-news | "The Mars helicopter continues to excel, Linux arrives on M1 Macs, Canonical’s hiring methods cause a stink, Graham eats his words about MDM, KDE korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-170/ | Mar 29 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 170 – Late Night Linux | Mar 29 06:35 | |
| psydruid | a few thousand, this isn't comparable to AMD's EPYC line of CPUs | Mar 29 06:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, thanks | Mar 29 06:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | not so many amphere articles in phoronix | Mar 29 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to shell out more | Mar 29 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | to compete with IntelMD | Mar 29 06:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gold-plated CPUs | Mar 29 06:38 |
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| psydruid | Ampere recently incurred a loss as reported in Oracle's filing | Mar 29 06:40 |
| techrights-news | Firmus Superclown sets a new standard for sustainable clown computing with Canonical’s open infrastructure | Ubuntu ⚓ https://ubuntu.com//blog/firmus-supercloud-sets-a-new-standard-for-sustainable-cloud-computing-with-canonicals-open-infrastructure ䷉ Source: ubuntu | Mar 29 06:40 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/firmus-supercloud-sets-a-new-standard-for-sustainable-cloud-computing-with-canonicals-open-infrastructure | Mar 29 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Firmus Supercloud sets a new standard for sustainable cloud computing with Canonical’s open infrastructure | Ubuntu | Mar 29 06:40 | |
| psydruid | Oracle owns a significant share in Ampere | Mar 29 06:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: seems most US companies operate at a loss | Mar 29 06:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are some categories | Mar 29 06:40 |
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| schestowitz-TR | companies that admit they lose | Mar 29 06:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies they pretend they don't lose | Mar 29 06:41 |
| psydruid | Ampere is working on its next generation of processors | Mar 29 06:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies that say the losses are temporary ("KEEP INVESTING!!") | Mar 29 06:41 |
| psydruid | yes | Mar 29 06:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies that SOMETIMES do not lose (easy to fake this) | Mar 29 06:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies that make a profit | Mar 29 06:41 |
| psydruid | https://www.extremetech.com/computing/333137-rumor-amds-zen-4-flagship-to-offer-32-threads-170w-tdp | Mar 29 06:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rumor: AMD's Zen 4 Flagship to Offer 32 Threads, 170W TDP - ExtremeTech | Mar 29 06:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | that last one is few well known brands | Mar 29 06:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: it's like running a low-end vacuum cleaneer | Mar 29 06:42 |
| psydruid | but you read things like this and start wondering if that is where computing should be headed | Mar 29 06:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 24/7 | Mar 29 06:42 |
| psydruid | the answer is obviously no | Mar 29 06:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | many cores will be idle most of the time | Mar 29 06:43 |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] erofs updates for 5.18-rc1 - Gao Xiang ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YjgtIqJK0Io+zYeI@debian/ ䷉ Source: Debian | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Mar 29 06:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] erofs updates for 5.18-rc1 - Gao Xiang | Mar 29 06:43 | |
| psydruid | my take on it is that if it isn't doing work, it should be powered off | Mar 29 06:44 |
| psydruid | especially with such high power consumption | Mar 29 06:44 |
| techrights-news | 10 Websites to Find Creative Commons Videos - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/5-websites-find-creative-commons-videos/ ䷉ Source: maketecheasier | Mar 29 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 10 Websites to Find Creative Commons Videos - Make Tech Easier | Mar 29 06:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: 32 threads | Mar 29 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine leaving the vacuum cleaner on all the time | Mar 29 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | because you might need it later for a couple mins | Mar 29 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, to compile a kernel | Mar 29 06:45 |
| psydruid | yeah | Mar 29 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people like linus buy these or get sent this | Mar 29 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | how many times a day does he even compile his program? | Mar 29 06:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe 1-5 times? | Mar 29 06:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | when doing gtk development I'd compile in the background while still writing more code | Mar 29 06:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there's overlap | Mar 29 06:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | my new laptop has only 2 cores | Mar 29 06:46 |
| psydruid | at some point the returns are diminishing | Mar 29 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the screens (9 of them) are dimming down when not used | Mar 29 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | or not accessed | Mar 29 06:47 |
| psydruid | and you start wondering if you aren't solving the wrong problem | Mar 29 06:47 |
| psydruid | or the problem in the wrong way | Mar 29 06:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's maybe 100w territories on average | Mar 29 06:48 |
| psydruid | referring to the work done by activelow | Mar 29 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: maybe they don't solve a problem | Mar 29 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | but create a problem | Mar 29 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine this CPU having defects or issues after warranty expires | Mar 29 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | what next? | Mar 29 06:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | CPU insurance? | Mar 29 06:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | Currys/PCWorld: would you like 5-year insurance for this CPU? | Mar 29 06:49 |
| psydruid | it's a great way to upsell services | Mar 29 06:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | It's only $500 for 5 years! It's a bargain | Mar 29 06:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | you could buy 3 laptops for that fee | Mar 29 06:49 |
| psydruid | but I think it will backfire in a huge way they aren't even expecting | Mar 29 06:49 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Google-Linux-Too-Many-NVMe | Mar 29 06:50 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Google-Linux-Too-Many-NVMe | Mar 29 06:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Has A Problem With Linux Server Reboots Too Slow Due To Too Many NVMe Drives - Phoronix | Mar 29 06:50 | |
| psydruid | I'd rather have cheap CPUs I can replace when broken | Mar 29 06:50 |
| schestowitz | context ^ | Mar 29 06:50 |
| schestowitz | my failing NVMe "disk" is why I needed to buy another machine | Mar 29 06:50 |
| psydruid | hence I've never spent that much on one | Mar 29 06:50 |
| schestowitz | it's not a totally dead NVMe but failing | Mar 29 06:50 |
| schestowitz | data is not safe on it anymore | Mar 29 06:50 |
| psydruid | I've never had that happen to me | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Available Spare: 100% | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Available Spare Threshold: 5% | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Percentage Used: 113% | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | 113% basically says "Expired" | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | "Roy, you've used this disk too much" | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | "time to buy a new one" | Mar 29 06:51 |
| psydruid | why does it have so many writes? | Mar 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Data Units Read: 82,613,708 [42.2 TB] | Mar 29 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Data Units Written: 169,462,269 [86.7 TB] | Mar 29 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Host Read Commands: 2,039,769,994 | Mar 29 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Host Write Commands: 1,736,870,461 | Mar 29 06:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe all the video encoding | Mar 29 06:52 |
| psydruid | a case can be made for using hard drives for those | Mar 29 06:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 29 06:53 |
| schestowitz | but it is a lot slower | Mar 29 06:53 |
| schestowitz | I installed webcamoid on machine with magnetic disk | Mar 29 06:53 |
| schestowitz | but I'm sure it's too weak to process 3-hour videos in two passes | Mar 29 06:53 |
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| schestowitz | then there's ipfs on microsd | Mar 29 06:54 |
| schestowitz | that too isn't too healthy | Mar 29 06:54 |
| schestowitz | it does a ton of work | Mar 29 06:54 |
| *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@aznruqq9uvrec.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 29 06:54 | |
| psydruid | there are enterprise SSDs, but those are much more expensive | Mar 29 06:54 |
| schestowitz | Apple is killing its own product line https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/28/cider-is-an-alternative-apple-music-desktop-client-with-features-missing-in-itunes/ | Mar 29 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cider is an alternative Apple Music client for Windows and Linux - 9to5Mac | Mar 29 06:55 | |
| schestowitz | maybe they reckon there's more money in DRM/streaming | Mar 29 06:55 |
| psydruid | Apple has wanted to go more into services | Mar 29 06:56 |
| psydruid | but they need a crappy OS for that, just like Microsoft | Mar 29 06:56 |
| techrights-news | "A decent paying job I could do until I reach my golden years. But then something happened. It was another one of those pesky birthdays. In the eyes of someone in management, I no longer fit in anymore. I somehow became the odd man out." http://www.ericmhuffman.com/2022/03/it-used-to-be-something-fun.html | Mar 29 06:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ericmhuffman.com | My Personal Blog: It Used To Be Something Fun | Mar 29 06:57 | |
| psydruid | there isn't room for them to pretend anymore, it's all about lock-in through applications and services now | Mar 29 06:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▃▅▃▄▅▅▆▇▄▆▄▇▅▆▄▄▅▄▅▆▇▅▅▆▇▅▆▅▆▅▁▅▁ avg(k/sec) 27.11 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▃▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 18.00▕ swarm size (avg): 306.63 ⟲ | Mar 29 06:59 |
| techrights-news | LLVM still in bed with Microsoft criminals I see... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-Starts-DX-HLSL-Code-Land | Mar 29 06:59 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-Starts-DX-HLSL-Code-Land | Mar 29 06:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LLVM Begins Landing The Initial DirectX / HLSL Target Code - Phoronix | Mar 29 06:59 | |
| schestowitz | psydruid: http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/cia-strategy-collect-all-data-and-keep-it-forever-130325?news=849534 | Mar 29 07:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top Stories - CIA Strategy: Collect All Data and Keep it Forever - AllGov - News | Mar 29 07:00 | |
| schestowitz | give Microsoft bailout | Mar 29 07:00 |
| schestowitz | from military budget | Mar 29 07:00 |
| schestowitz | get something in return | Mar 29 07:00 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft: we need to be BAILED OUT by the Pentagon (taxpayers' money) so that we can bribe officials -- with US TAX MONEY -- all around the world http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Mar 29 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | Mar 29 07:01 | |
| techrights-news | Best Programming Languages to Learn in 2022 ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/best_programming_languages_2022/ ䷉ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 🐧 | Mar 29 07:02 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/best_programming_languages_2022/ | Mar 29 07:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Best Programming Languages to Learn in 2022 | Mar 29 07:02 | |
| psydruid | I wonder how deeply they have managed to infiltrate the free software stack, because I don't believe everything is getting audited and scrutinised anymore | Mar 29 07:04 |
| psydruid | referring to things like systemd | Mar 29 07:05 |
| psydruid | or the kernel | Mar 29 07:06 |
| techrights-news | Zoë Kooyman’s First Keynote as Free Software Foundation (FSF) Executive Director | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/zoe-kooyman-keynote/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/zoe-kooyman-keynote/ | Mar 29 07:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Zoë Kooyman’s First Keynote as Free Software Foundation (FSF) Executive Director | Techrights | Mar 29 07:09 | |
| techrights-news | howtoforge and linuxcapable became invisible or inaccessible due to their outsourcing to clownflare. I wonder if they're even aware what a colossal error they've made! This is web suicide! | Mar 29 07:11 |
| techrights-news | netflix: we turn the internet into a souped up mesh of DRM. clownflare: we outsource web traffic to the US. facebook: we spy on people's personal lives. 'Dating' apps and similar: we build a database of people's sex life. Amazon: middleman for China's sweatshops. And so on... (Microsoft: we bribe everyone everywhere) | Mar 29 07:15 |
| techrights-news | Zemlin PAC as front group of Mark Zuckerberg; he pays them for reputation laundering. https://linuxfoundation.org/featured/mlh-fellowship-opens-applications-production-engineering-scholarships/ | Mar 29 07:16 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/featured/mlh-fellowship-opens-applications-production-engineering-scholarships/ | Mar 29 07:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | MLH Fellowship Opens Applications for this Summer’s Production Engineering Track - Linux Foundation | Mar 29 07:16 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Foundation is an inherently racist organisation. Hence they make a lot of noise (to distract from it, to cause confusion). | Mar 29 07:17 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/ | Mar 29 07:20 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/ | Mar 29 07:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe • The Register | Mar 29 07:20 | |
| AdmFubar | https://torrentfreak.com/court-denies-coxs-challenge-of-1-billion-music-piracy-verdict-220328/ | Mar 29 07:28 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/court-denies-coxs-challenge-of-1-billion-music-piracy-verdict-220328/ | Mar 29 07:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Denies Cox's Challenge of $1 Billion Music Piracy Verdict * TorrentFreak | Mar 29 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | People don’t like GNOME 42’s inconsistent themes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163094 | Mar 29 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | People don't like GNOME 42's inconsistent themes | Tux Machines | Mar 29 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | Fujitsu Lifebook T725 with openSUSE • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163095 | Mar 29 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fujitsu Lifebook T725 with openSUSE | Tux Machines | Mar 29 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163096 | Mar 29 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 29 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | Chrome = back door https://www.itechpost.com/articles/109754/20220328/update-google-chrome-download-security-computer-android.htm | Mar 29 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Update Google Chrome Now: How To Download Chrome Security Update on Mac, Linux, Windows, Android | iTech Post | Mar 29 07:29 | |
| AdmFubar | hhhmmm someone sounds desperate https://www.windowscentral.com/snag-cheap-xbox-series-x-microsofts-new-refurbished-consoles | Mar 29 07:30 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/snag-cheap-xbox-series-x-microsofts-new-refurbished-consoles | Mar 29 07:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Snag a cheap Xbox Series X with Microsoft's new refurbished consoles | Windows Central | Mar 29 07:30 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu: Conky, Ubuntu News, and Firmus • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163097 | Mar 29 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Conky, Ubuntu News, and Firmus | Tux Machines | Mar 29 07:30 | |
| *matey (~matey@7hpuxwr5tewrw.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 29 07:31 | |
| matey | activelow: i dont think mcdonalds is in any way indicative of american food in general. there is some overlap. | Mar 29 07:32 |
| matey | the constant addition of sugar to condiments is an industrial maneuver, and mcdonalds takes it even farther. go to a cookout and theres a higher ratio of meat to sugar flavour | Mar 29 07:32 |
| matey | real restaurants lean on sugar less. eating sugar makes you hungry, and companies know this and abuse it. | Mar 29 07:33 |
| matey | of course they still serve coca cola. | Mar 29 07:33 |
| matey | i think burger king tries to distinguish themselves with a saltier taste. when youre working with processed leftovers additives are the primary culinary weapon | Mar 29 07:36 |
| matey | the chips at kfc in the uk are naturally better than the american ones. theyre not as good as real chips, just a small step in that direction | Mar 29 07:36 |
| matey | in the 80s, wendys had the worst chips on earth. you probably had better odds getting frozen ones, letting them thaw until they became a health risk, and then microwaving them. i hear theyve gotten better since. | Mar 29 07:40 |
| matey | you cant reheat mcdonalds chips. whatever gives them their flavour is extremely volatile and evaporates into thin air within 8 minutes. if it lasted a little longer, the cia could use it to pass secret messages. | Mar 29 07:41 |
| matey | the most reliable way to get proper chips in america is to make them at home. there is a not-too-remote possibility of losing half your kitchen this way | Mar 29 07:50 |
| matey | a safer alternative is just to mash potatoes and add cheese to them | Mar 29 07:51 |
| matey | id joke about how in the future, drm will bring the restaurant industry to its knees when commercial fryers stop working reliably, but we are already there with mcdonalds shake machines | Mar 29 07:56 |
| matey | "sorry, we cant make anything, fryers are down" | Mar 29 07:57 |
| matey | "again?" | Mar 29 07:57 |
| matey | i think some industries are just bored and trying to see if they can taunt people into a revolution for shits and giggles | Mar 29 07:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▁▁▅▁▂▃▁▅▇▆▁▂▁▆▇▇█▂▂▄▅▂▁▃▅▃▇▆▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 46.90 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▂█▁▃▂▁██▁▃▂██▂▂▁▂█▁▂▁▁▂██▁▁█▁▂▂█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 95.25▕ swarm size (avg): 300.73 ⟲ | Mar 29 07:59 |
| matey | like when jim was so done trying to top his own pranks on the office that he got dwight to make himself his own assistant | Mar 29 08:01 |
| Ariadne | the cat and the bun are in a staring contest | Mar 29 08:04 |
| matey | "im cuter." "fuck you, ive got more followers are on instagram." | Mar 29 08:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: I was trying to 'find' you | Mar 29 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you see the puppy news? | Mar 29 08:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163093 | Mar 29 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | puppylinux.com is down (PuppyLinux outsourced to Microsoft, Microsoft suspends site of GNU/Linux distro) | Tux Machines | Mar 29 08:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, dear, barry... | Mar 29 08:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | if only somehow cautioned you... | Mar 29 08:33 |
| techrights-news | "This week’s episode of Destination Linux, we’re going to be talking about running open source on your mobile device." https://destinationlinux.org/episode-271/ | Mar 29 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 271: GNOME 42 & Our Open Source Android App Picks - Destination Linux | Mar 29 08:34 | |
| matey | given that i have paid almost zero attention to easyos, which is most likely githubbased as well | Mar 29 08:34 |
| matey | puppy itself is entirely in the hands of a community that felt its impractical to migrate, so theyre stuck with it | Mar 29 08:35 |
| matey | my own distro came out of a project to experiment with rebooting a fully-libre version of puppy | Mar 29 08:35 |
| matey | this was before the github purchase | Mar 29 08:36 |
| matey | there is at least one puppy derivative that steers clear of github, though i believe it is 64-bit x86 only and i have no use for that | Mar 29 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | fatdog? | Mar 29 08:37 |
| matey | maybe that one | Mar 29 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | no released in ages | Mar 29 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for black lab linux | Mar 29 08:38 |
| matey | here are two bigger problems for puppy | Mar 29 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | does Easy use Woof? | Mar 29 08:38 |
| matey | they lost john murga a while ago, he hosted the forum that had most of the history of puppy | Mar 29 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had puppy on a machine of mine, briefly | Mar 29 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | replaced it with Debian | Mar 29 08:38 |
| matey | the forums are gone | Mar 29 08:38 |
| matey | i couldnt use puppy as-is, too many gripes about it | Mar 29 08:39 |
| matey | youd consider some of them privacy issues | Mar 29 08:39 |
| matey | i fixed those | Mar 29 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | good | Mar 29 08:39 |
| matey | but only in the version i worked on | Mar 29 08:39 |
| matey | i did it to encourage others to consider doing the same | Mar 29 08:40 |
| techrights-news | RM500U-CN Raspberry Pi 5G HAT kit sells for under $200... for the Chinese market • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163098 | Mar 29 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RM500U-CN Raspberry Pi 5G HAT kit sells for under $200... for the Chinese market | Tux Machines | Mar 29 08:40 | |
| matey | so the forums are gone, and with them most of the information about puppy | Mar 29 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | is barry upset at you? | Mar 29 08:40 |
| matey | i dont think barry knows i exist | Mar 29 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | after the confrontation over github? | Mar 29 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, they banned you from their forums for it | Mar 29 08:41 |
| matey | no, youre thinking of something else | Mar 29 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | okl; | Mar 29 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe another distro | Mar 29 08:41 |
| matey | another forum | Mar 29 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | a MATE-y based distro | Mar 29 08:41 |
| matey | no i wouldnt bother with mate | Mar 29 08:42 |
| matey | also github | Mar 29 08:42 |
| matey | though still the best version of gnome, fwiw | Mar 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | cinnamon same | Mar 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | this predates Microsoft criminals owning it | Mar 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik | Mar 29 08:42 |
| matey | i believe so yes | Mar 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | so more forgivable | Mar 29 08:42 |
| matey | sure but they need to move | Mar 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | moving away from such a LOCK-IN engine is not easy | Mar 29 08:42 |
| matey | no, thats exactly why people should move | Mar 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "but I have my CDs at the back of his truck!!' | Mar 29 08:43 |
| matey | so true | Mar 29 08:43 |
| matey | the biggest problem with puppy is this | Mar 29 08:43 |
| matey | barry is-- a talented coder... | Mar 29 08:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | CDS = GitHub(TM) Issues(R) | Mar 29 08:44 |
| matey | he did a lot of work that you could call great if you wanted to | Mar 29 08:44 |
| matey | he inspired a lot of people | Mar 29 08:44 |
| matey | i learned a lot of first-time gnu/linux stuff on puppy | Mar 29 08:44 |
| matey | it used to be one of the fastest things you could run on older stuff | Mar 29 08:44 |
| matey | i still make some decisions on what software to use based on my early experiences with puppy | Mar 29 08:45 |
| matey | but... | Mar 29 08:45 |
| matey | its all a giant mess of bash scripts, or other shell scripts | Mar 29 08:46 |
| matey | which makes it future proof in a way-- i mean, theyre not likely to make them stop working | Mar 29 08:46 |
| matey | theyre just impossible to clean up and maintain | Mar 29 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, that's why I do bash a lot | Mar 29 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but wayland threatens my x-centric stuff | Mar 29 08:46 |
| matey | so basically theyve been doing a firefox on woof for years | Mar 29 08:46 |
| matey | and the progress theyve made seems reactos-like | Mar 29 08:47 |
| matey | it will take forever | Mar 29 08:47 |
| matey | mozilla had to be rewritten, it took years | Mar 29 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | firefox on woof, meaning..? | Mar 29 08:47 |
| matey | but these are hobbyists | Mar 29 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, today's browsers take AGGGGESSS to build | Mar 29 08:48 |
| matey | meaning theyre trying to redo all of it in a clean way-- i dont blame them | Mar 29 08:48 |
| matey | heres what that does to the community though | Mar 29 08:48 |
| matey | the community throws up its hands, says woof is too hard to use | Mar 29 08:48 |
| matey | simply goes about remastering instead | Mar 29 08:48 |
| matey | someone will use woof to puppyfy the latest ubuntu or slaxk | Mar 29 08:48 |
| matey | slack, then the rest of it goes from there | Mar 29 08:49 |
| matey | woof is a labour of love i suppose-- hard labour | Mar 29 08:49 |
| techrights-news | "The expression "Second Brain" has been popularized by Tiago Forte, who's been running an online cohort-based class called Building a Second Brain I took the class last year and found it a powerful distillation of an approach to PKM and note-taking." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1659 | Mar 29 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thomas.apestaart.org » Building a Second Brain | Mar 29 08:49 | |
| matey | barry isnt really involved with it | Mar 29 08:49 |
| matey | he wanted to move on and does easyos | Mar 29 08:49 |
| techrights-news | Patents "offered" https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/572018/covid-booster-shot-will-be-offered-to-health-workers-in-south-africa/ | Mar 29 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/572018/covid-booster-shot-will-be-offered-to-health-workers-in-south-africa/ ) | Mar 29 08:50 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: businesstech.co.za | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/572018/covid-booster-shot-will-be-offered-to-health-workers-in-south-africa/ | Mar 29 08:50 | |
| matey | i dont know much about it-- something like packages are containers but its a lightweight distro | Mar 29 08:50 |
| matey | since i dont use the linux kernel its of no use to me | Mar 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | jails? | Mar 29 08:50 |
| matey | youd think i would know a lot about jails by now | Mar 29 08:51 |
| Ariadne | matey: what is your kernel of choice | Mar 29 08:51 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163099 | Mar 29 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux Machines | Mar 29 08:51 | |
| matey | ariadne: openbsd-- but im not married to it, its still serious | Mar 29 08:51 |
| matey | definitely a live in couple arrangement | Mar 29 08:51 |
| Ariadne | i mean, outside of alpine, openbsd is my OS of choice | Mar 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | openbsd has gemini clients in the repos | Mar 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike debian | Mar 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike ubuntu | Mar 29 08:52 |
| matey | openbsd has its own gemini server (obviously not on installation, you can pkg_add it) | Mar 29 08:52 |
| matey | but its written specifically for openbsd, using native features (to reduce the need for maintaining code) | Mar 29 08:53 |
| matey | its called vger | Mar 29 08:53 |
| techrights-news | "I hope you could help me to learn how to live the gemini way and maybe we'll become fellow rhum drinkers !" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/863 | Mar 29 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | i know vger | Mar 29 08:53 |
| matey | but part of the reason i dont know much about bsd jails is | Mar 29 08:54 |
| matey | the super-neat security feature of openbsd is pledge | Mar 29 08:54 |
| matey | and what it does (not an entirely new idea at all, only some aspects of the approach) is reduces access to the kernel | Mar 29 08:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | better than Windows Defender? :p | Mar 29 08:55 |
| matey | i mean a bucket of water balloons is better than windows defender | Mar 29 08:55 |
| *schestowitz-TR checks when vger was last released | Mar 29 08:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR | vger might get bloated with features | Mar 29 08:55 |
| matey | that is incredibly unlikely | Mar 29 08:55 |
| matey | its like saying a unicycle might get bloated with features | Mar 29 08:56 |
| matey | the entire philosophy of vger is not to write anything that is already available in openbsd natively | Mar 29 08:56 |
| matey | including parts of the server itself | Mar 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | last change 2 months ago https://tildegit.org/solene/vger | Mar 29 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tildegit.org | solene/vger: gemini server written in C used with inetd - vger - tildegit | Mar 29 08:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://tildegit.org/solene/vger | Mar 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2020-11-30-gemini-vger-server.html | Mar 29 08:57 |
| matey | you could compare it to clip on sunglasses-- they dont even have temples, they go on existing glasses | Mar 29 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : How to deploy Vger gemini server on OpenBSD | Mar 29 08:57 | |
| matey | but in general openbsd has a culture of not adding useless crap (unless its for security research) | Mar 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | iirc, solene said she had coded it in 100 or 200 LOCs | Mar 29 08:58 |
| matey | yeah because its only part of a server in the first place | Mar 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | matey: so it's like suckless | Mar 29 08:58 |
| matey | it has some things in common with suckless | Mar 29 08:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▅▃▂▇▄▅▂▄▅▅▁▄█▂▃▆▅▆▅▆▆▁▆▁▂▂▂▁▅█▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 33.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▃▁█▂▃▂▂█▂▂█▂▁▄▂▁▂█▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 74.85▕ swarm size (avg): 242.41 ⟲ | Mar 29 08:59 |
| matey | suckless eschews more than openbsd does | Mar 29 08:59 |
| matey | for example, when they created pledge, the thing they really wanted to try it on was firefox | Mar 29 08:59 |
| matey | why firefox? | Mar 29 08:59 |
| schestowitz | blowfish suckless | Mar 29 08:59 |
| matey | because firefox was one of the biggest messes they could think of that lots of people use | Mar 29 08:59 |
| schestowitz | firefox is a MESS | Mar 29 09:00 |
| matey | and thats exactly why they wanted to see if pledge could work well with it | Mar 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | run lsod| grep firefox| wc -l | Mar 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | run lsof| grep firefox| wc -l | Mar 29 09:00 |
| matey | sort of like if you made a new rifle and had the light brigade from charge of the light brigade test it out | Mar 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | netsurf is like 100 times lesss | Mar 29 09:00 |
| matey | they have netsurf too | Mar 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | I use it 2/47 | Mar 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | 24/7 even | Mar 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | netsurf has frequent releases | Mar 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | it's one outlet for www fatigue | Mar 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | but it still uses a broken protocol | Mar 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | and faces hostile sites | Mar 29 09:01 |
| matey | i still think getting away from the web is a very good idea | Mar 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | eventually | Mar 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | it's like saying, let's go vegan | Mar 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | you can start by reducing | Mar 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | like 80% gemini, 20% web | Mar 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | and if everyone else does it, momentum shifts | Mar 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | this past 1-2 I cannot access some sites | Mar 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Gulag killed feedburner | Mar 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | it's final | Mar 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | and clownflare blocks RSS requests | Mar 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | as if my RSS reader can solve JS riddles | Mar 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | the web goes to shit | Mar 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/ | Mar 29 09:03 |
| matey | clownflare is one of the things that will help kill th web for good | Mar 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | yes! | Mar 29 09:03 |
| matey | you know the saddest exmaple of clownflare i know? its not even, its just a similar bullshit | Mar 29 09:03 |
| SomeH4x0r | archived websites are good too I think, but I don't like that Web Archive grew big | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | many people think git is github | Mar 29 09:04 |
| matey | securi firewall-- i call it suckuri | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | and www is clownflare | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | and gnu is "linux" | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | and PC is "Windows" | Mar 29 09:04 |
| matey | the guy who maintains ncurses for gnu blocks tor users from his website | Mar 29 09:04 |
| SomeH4x0r | *Wintel | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | and Internet is Web | Mar 29 09:04 |
| matey | its a clownflare like "firewall" for the web | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | there are tons more examples like these | Mar 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | google is search | Mar 29 09:05 |
| matey | sometimes sourceforge does too, but not half as badly | Mar 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | I could give dozens of examples | Mar 29 09:05 |
| matey | and 99% of the time, when i see them doing that | Mar 29 09:05 |
| matey | i just say fuck it and give up on that website | Mar 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | when something becomes too dominant in something | Mar 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | and then the hoi polloi thinks that's the same thing | Mar 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | usenet is google groups | Mar 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | amfora and lagrange have a lot of share in gemini | Mar 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | which itself is risky | Mar 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | and they implement some "special" features | Mar 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | "blue e" = internet | Mar 29 09:06 |
| matey | and at least one is github based | Mar 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | to people in se asia and africa FB *IS* "the internet" | Mar 29 09:07 |
| matey | i think the only client i have right now is a bash script | Mar 29 09:07 |
| schestowitz | and to some, twitter is "the news" | Mar 29 09:07 |
| matey | se asia? | Mar 29 09:07 |
| schestowitz | s.e. asia | Mar 29 09:07 |
| matey | laos? | Mar 29 09:07 |
| schestowitz | like indochina | Mar 29 09:07 |
| matey | vietnam? | Mar 29 09:07 |
| matey | my geography has always been shit | Mar 29 09:07 |
| matey | indochina <- okay | Mar 29 09:08 |
| matey | "blue e" = internet <- oh yes i remember | Mar 29 09:10 |
| matey | adventurism in branding | Mar 29 09:10 |
| matey | aol did it first, microsoft beat them at their own game | Mar 29 09:10 |
| matey | i realise aol was a bbs too, i used a bbs service in the early 90s | Mar 29 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | to many people "apps" are... | Mar 29 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "phones" are.. | Mar 29 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | (esp, the young) | Mar 29 09:11 |
| matey | its very sad | Mar 29 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | who never sae a floppy disk | Mar 29 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | diskette | Mar 29 09:11 |
| matey | why did you 3d print the save icon | Mar 29 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol!!! | Mar 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | i got a gift from a colleague | Mar 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4 coasters | Mar 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're diskettes | Mar 29 09:12 |
| matey | i had those | Mar 29 09:12 |
| matey | yep | Mar 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | with cork on them | Mar 29 09:12 |
| matey | these were a foam-like rubbery... foam | Mar 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still use these | Mar 29 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I collect coasters | Mar 29 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're nice and cheap | Mar 29 09:13 |
| matey | at one point many years ago i got a bunch of aol cds specifically to use as coasters | Mar 29 09:13 |
| matey | i think 3.5 diskettes would work better actually, as long the glass wasnt too wide | Mar 29 09:14 |
| matey | theres a limit to how much condensation a cd can stand and still act as a coaster | Mar 29 09:15 |
| matey | plus the hole in the centre | Mar 29 09:15 |
| matey | you could use two with a piece of tape between them, though i didnt get that elaborate | Mar 29 09:16 |
| schestowitz | https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-net-beyond-the-web-audio-only/ | Mar 29 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | The Net beyond the Web (Audio Only) — GNU MediaGoblin | Mar 29 09:17 | |
| schestowitz | they uploaded the wrong files | Mar 29 09:17 |
| schestowitz | both the audio and video versions | Mar 29 09:17 |
| matey | did the upload the one where theyre are a bunch of people wearing hoods and holding swords while stallman has his hands tied together? | Mar 29 09:18 |
| matey | there | Mar 29 09:18 |
| matey | we arent supposed to see that one yet | Mar 29 09:19 |
| matey | thomas lord said the people curious why stallman wasnt invited to lp were guilty of "hero worship" | Mar 29 09:20 |
| matey | i give up, he was defending him when stallman was cancelled | Mar 29 09:20 |
| matey | thomas lord has gone back and forth on this sort of thing enough times-- i dont know what side hes on, ive simply accepted that ill never understand his motivations | Mar 29 09:21 |
| matey | this isnt the first time | Mar 29 09:21 |
| matey | i wouldnt even put it down to just saying what he thinks people want to hear-- if its not that though, i really dont know what it is | Mar 29 09:22 |
| techrights-news | Panos Alevropoulos on Software Patents in 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/panos-alevropoulos-swpats/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/panos-alevropoulos-swpats/ | Mar 29 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Panos Alevropoulos on Software Patents in 2022 | Techrights | Mar 29 09:24 | |
| matey | https://puppylinux.com/ online | Mar 29 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puppylinux.com | Puppy Linux Home | Mar 29 09:24 | |
| XRevan86 | https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/sysvinit-devel/2022-03/msg00000.html "Issues can be reported here: https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/issues " | Mar 29 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.nongnu.org | Release of SysV init 3.02 | Mar 29 09:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Issues · slicer69/sysvinit · GitHub | Mar 29 09:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR | still on Microsoft server? | Mar 29 09:25 |
| matey | online: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE | Mar 29 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE: woof - the Puppy builder | Mar 29 09:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR | hehe | Mar 29 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | King Microsoft: bow down | Mar 29 09:26 |
| matey | still on Microsoft server? <- i wasnt aware it was on a microsoft server to begin with | Mar 29 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | we own you!\ | Mar 29 09:26 |
| matey | <XRevan86> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/sysvinit-devel/2022-03/msg00000.html "Issues can be reported here: https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit/issues " <- i literally found this a few days ago | Mar 29 09:26 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Didn't notice that here. | Mar 29 09:27 |
| matey | so switching from systemd to sysvinit wont get you away from github | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's use a platform controlled by criminals | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | just ignore the host | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | sure, it bribes everyone | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we're fine | Mar 29 09:27 |
| matey | <XRevan86> matey: Didn't notice that here. <- 99% of what i find about github i dont even mention here | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll be OK | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | ignore the many github departures | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. CEO | Mar 29 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the assault on women | Mar 29 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media won't report these anyway | Mar 29 09:28 |
| matey | and the users only care if they step down | Mar 29 09:28 |
| matey | like if they didnt step down, they might leave github | Mar 29 09:28 |
| matey | but if they do step down, problem solved | Mar 29 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2018 many projects chose github | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2022 not as many | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | other options are considered | Mar 29 09:29 |
| matey | thats good | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so over time the share of Microsoft will decrease | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | same with skype | Mar 29 09:29 |
| matey | im disappointed about the sr.ht model | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | when Microsoft took over a decade ago it was dominant | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's nothing compared to whatsapp | Mar 29 09:29 |
| matey | not that you have to pay to start a project there, or maintain write access | Mar 29 09:29 |
| matey | thats okay | Mar 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | whatsapp is bad also, but.. | Mar 29 09:29 |
| matey | but that they dont plan to even keep code online when payment stops | Mar 29 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is the company -- and the site -- collapse? | Mar 29 09:30 |
| matey | for 8 weeks sure | Mar 29 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I put some coding projects of mine in freshmeat | Mar 29 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't know what freshmeat.net leads to now | Mar 29 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, esr and others made a new site | Mar 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | with new name | Mar 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's merely an archive of some king | Mar 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | *kind | Mar 29 09:31 |
| matey | i think freshmeat goes to sourceforge or something | Mar 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe that too is offline already | Mar 29 09:31 |
| matey | but not directly | Mar 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years ago FM and SSF were de facto platforms for fs projects | Mar 29 09:31 |
| matey | like freshmeat says the site is out of date and then offers to take you to sourceforge or something | Mar 29 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the web has a short shelf life | Mar 29 09:32 |
| matey | but some of the content is still there | Mar 29 09:32 |
| matey | what is it that rms says people should say instead of "content"? | Mar 29 09:32 |
| matey | i dont know how he ever got the idea that its a condescending word | Mar 29 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | not only RMS said it | Mar 29 09:33 |
| matey | cdrs and classic books always had a table of "contents" | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | even 15 years ago many said it | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | with high-profile articles to that effect | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "user-generated content" | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "user" | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "generated" | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | "content" | Mar 29 09:33 |
| matey | i take more issue with "user generated" tbh | Mar 29 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | sweatshop-teleported "stuff" | Mar 29 09:33 |
| matey | when rms says "content" is bad it goes over my head | Mar 29 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the creators are "NPCs" | Mar 29 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | are songs "content"? | Mar 29 09:34 |
| matey | yeah "user generated" i can see the slight cringe value | Mar 29 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | was the mona lisa "content"? | Mar 29 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | is firefox "content"? | Mar 29 09:34 |
| matey | war and peace was. | Mar 29 09:34 |
| matey | a tale of two cities was | Mar 29 09:35 |
| matey | this is just making something out of nothing imo | Mar 29 09:35 |
| matey | but im still trying to understand-- i just, dont | Mar 29 09:35 |
| matey | a mango lassi is the "contents" of a glass | Mar 29 09:36 |
| matey | a good lassi is work of art imo | Mar 29 09:36 |
| matey | "gourmet" if you like | Mar 29 09:36 |
| matey | i just cant find a way to be offended by it. | Mar 29 09:36 |
| matey | again: classic books | Mar 29 09:36 |
| matey | granted "gourmet" is a stupid word, but i dont consider it an insult | Mar 29 09:37 |
| matey | as used ^ | Mar 29 09:37 |
| matey | part of the reason i cant understand the offense taken is that the original context online was | Mar 29 09:39 |
| matey | a website was JUST a website-- it was the "content" that actually mattered | Mar 29 09:39 |
| matey | its the filling in the oreo | Mar 29 09:39 |
| matey | the good part | Mar 29 09:39 |
| matey | without that, why bother visiting? | Mar 29 09:39 |
| matey | but i dont know-- when you have a list of words youre encouraging people to avoid/use, maybe sometimes you add one thats sort of useless (or proves to be later) | Mar 29 09:40 |
| matey | ive always been very open about having mixed feelings about that page. rms never treated it as mandatory, trisquel added it to their forum rules. i was never a fan of that either. | Mar 29 09:41 |
| matey | i called it a "gnuspeak" dictionary | Mar 29 09:41 |
| matey | well intentioned, i just didnt like it | Mar 29 09:41 |
| matey | its one thing to say people are better off using only free software | Mar 29 09:42 |
| matey | its another to tell everyone who uses free software they should accept this dictionary, rather than writing their own and making those decisions for themselves | Mar 29 09:43 |
| matey | rms maybe did no harm there, trisquel-- i dont agree with it. | Mar 29 09:43 |
| matey | and today you have ubuntu pulling the same trick based on NICENESS | Mar 29 09:43 |
| matey | so, i cant say theres no precedent, free software. | Mar 29 09:44 |
| matey | github: you shouldnt use master when you can use main, its racist | Mar 29 09:44 |
| matey | fsf: you shouldnt use content when you can use (?), its selling yourself short | Mar 29 09:45 |
| matey | not the same i know. just too similar for my taste (and it was before github was even thing) | Mar 29 09:45 |
| techrights-news | "To begin, the truck’s wiper blade control unit was ripped out and replaced with an Arduino Uno along with a new DC motor driver and motor encoder for determining its absolute position." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/28/these-special-windshield-wipers-move-to-the-beat-of-a-cars-stereo/ | Mar 29 09:45 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/28/these-special-windshield-wipers-move-to-the-beat-of-a-cars-stereo/ | Mar 29 09:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | These special windshield wipers move to the beat of a car's stereo | Arduino Blog | Mar 29 09:45 | |
| matey | it ENTIRELY depends on what degree of importance is given to it of course. when its literally just a suggestion, who cares, theres no problem. | Mar 29 09:46 |
| matey | some people prefer dogma, when a suggestion is offered. i dont. | Mar 29 09:46 |
| matey | https://www.bkhome.org/ <- online | Mar 29 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bkhome.org | BarryK's Home — All categories | Mar 29 09:49 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163100 | Mar 29 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 09:49 | |
| matey | i dont even know which site was down, so i cant tell if its back up | Mar 29 09:50 |
| techrights-news | Gulag and Clownflare wage a war on the Web. Mozilla helps both of them. What does that make Mozilla? | Mar 29 09:51 |
| techrights-news | "In this post, I will talk about how I modified my pkg configuration so I don’t have to modify it after upgrading a host/jail" https://dan.langille.org/2022/03/27/making-my-pkg-conf-configuration-version-independent/ | Mar 29 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | Making my pkg.conf configuration version independent – Dan Langille's Other Diary | Mar 29 09:56 | |
| techrights-news | "Cyntech has been on the Raspberry Pi scene since the early days." https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cyntech-raspberry-pi-4-case-and-heatsink-review | Mar 29 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Cyntech Raspberry Pi 4 Case and Heatsink Review | Tom's Hardware | Mar 29 09:57 | |
| techrights-news | "I haven't written for a bit, in part because I am currently on vacation in Mexico." https://computer.rip/2022-03-24-VoWiFi.html | Mar 29 09:57 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: computer.rip | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://computer.rip/2022-03-24-VoWiFi.html | Mar 29 09:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-computer.rip | Computers Are Bad | Mar 29 09:57 | |
| techrights-news | "The technical components of e-CODEX are open source building blocks, mainly consisting of a connector and a gateway" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/cross-border-justice-going-open-source | Mar 29 09:58 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: europa.eu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/cross-border-justice-going-open-source | Mar 29 09:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Cross-border justice going open source | Joinup | Mar 29 09:58 | |
| techrights-news | FSF ED Zoë said that she has “an endless amount of examples and reasons to believe that free software is the way forward, worth protecting, and something we need to make sure people understand how to fight for” http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/zoe-kooyman-keynote/ | Mar 29 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Zoë Kooyman’s First Keynote as Free Software Foundation (FSF) Executive Director | Techrights | Mar 29 09:59 | |
| techrights-news | 𝘛𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴 IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 28, 2022 • Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/irc-log-280322/ ䷉ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/irc-log-280322/ | Mar 29 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 28, 2022 | Techrights | Mar 29 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163101 | Mar 29 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 29 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | "This talk is about software patents, and how they are legal instruments designed to curtail the freedom of developers for the sake of multinational companies’ interests.” http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/panos-alevropoulos-swpats/ | Mar 29 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Panos Alevropoulos on Software Patents in 2022 | Techrights | Mar 29 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | "Elliptic curve cryptography (ECC) is a type of public-key cryptographic systems." https://matt-rickard.com/elliptic-curve-cryptography/ | Mar 29 10:01 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/elliptic-curve-cryptography/ | Mar 29 10:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Elliptic Curve Cryptography for Beginners | Mar 29 10:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: the puppy linux site | Mar 29 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | barry's site mentioned the issue | Mar 29 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so clearly it was not down | Mar 29 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | read the post | Mar 29 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | github SUSPENDED it | Mar 29 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not the github downtime issue | Mar 29 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they mess around | Mar 29 10:08 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> they mess around <- so does anyone who stays there, imo | Mar 29 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | ack | Mar 29 10:12 |
| matey | the least they could do is warn others "dont come here! its a trap!" | Mar 29 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Mar 29 10:12 |
| matey | instead they act as free marketing and say "well you know, its what people use" | Mar 29 10:12 |
| matey | great, so youre running windows then | Mar 29 10:12 |
| matey | no, windows sucks | Mar 29 10:12 |
| matey | but its what people USE! | Mar 29 10:12 |
| techrights-news | social CONTROL media https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60875884 | Mar 29 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Teenage social media use linked to less life-satisfaction for some - BBC News | Mar 29 10:12 | |
| techrights-news | "NYT had confirmed that the documents used as source material" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-technology/rehashed-nyt-yarn-on-russian-surveillance-shot-down-by-nokia.html | Mar 29 10:13 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-technology/rehashed-nyt-yarn-on-russian-surveillance-shot-down-by-nokia.html | Mar 29 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Rehashed NYT yarn on Russian surveillance shot down by Nokia | Mar 29 10:13 | |
| techrights-news | "NYT described how the Finnish firm played a "key role" in helping" https://yle.fi/news/3-12380296 | Mar 29 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | NYT: Nokia played "key role" in enabling Russian cyberspying | News | Yle Uutiset | Mar 29 10:14 | |
| techrights-news | "For more than five years, Nokia provided equipment and services to link SORM to Russia’s largest telecom service provider, MTS" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/technology/nokia-russia-surveillance-system-sorm.html | Mar 29 10:14 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/technology/nokia-russia-surveillance-system-sorm.html | Mar 29 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | When Nokia Pulled Out of Russia, a Vast Surveillance System Remained - The New York Times | Mar 29 10:14 | |
| techrights-news | "Security firm UpGuard released a report detailing how it found 1.7TB of data owned by Nokia and related to Russian operator MTS" https://nokiamob.net/2019/09/22/1-7tb-nokia-data-leak-reveals-details-about-surveillance-in-russia/ | Mar 29 10:15 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nokiamob.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nokiamob.net/2019/09/22/1-7tb-nokia-data-leak-reveals-details-about-surveillance-in-russia/ | Mar 29 10:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nokiamob.net | 1.7TB Nokia data leak reveals details about surveillance in Russia | Nokiamob | Mar 29 10:15 | |
| matey | now heres something nice barry has done | Mar 29 10:16 |
| techrights-news | move!! https://reason.com/volokh/2022/03/27/nycs-private-anti-idling-law-enforcers/ | Mar 29 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | NYC's Private Anti-Idling Law Enforcers | Mar 29 10:16 | |
| matey | he forked bashblog (github) to: https://bkhome.org/news/tag_shellcms.html | Mar 29 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Barrys News — Posts tagged "shellcms" | Mar 29 10:16 | |
| matey | self hosted | Mar 29 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | nice | Mar 29 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if enough people moan about it | Mar 29 10:17 |
| matey | bashblog is what he was doing his blog with of course | Mar 29 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | he might not react overnight | Mar 29 10:17 |
| matey | shellcms is his fork of it | Mar 29 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that adds up | Mar 29 10:17 |
| matey | barry is compeltely hands-off regarding puppy | Mar 29 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, i know the 'cms' he uses | Mar 29 10:17 |
| matey | i think easyos would have been created solely so he could wash his hands of the former | Mar 29 10:17 |
| matey | well its barry, so "cmk" is going mean, naturally "a shell script" | Mar 29 10:18 |
| matey | cms ^ | Mar 29 10:18 |
| techrights-news | Land of disneyland... running out of water https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/600116-newsom-issues-order-tightening-water-conservation-amid | Mar 29 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Newsom issues order tightening water conservation amid worsening drought | TheHill | Mar 29 10:18 | |
| matey | whatever the community does with puppy is 100% up to the community | Mar 29 10:19 |
| matey | and for better or worse, its not a corporation this time | Mar 29 10:19 |
| techrights-news | Old: "More than half the world’s population faces water scarcity for at least one month every year." https://theconversation.com/ipcc-report-half-the-world-is-facing-water-scarcity-floods-and-dirty-water-large-investments-are-needed-for-effective-solutions-175578 | Mar 29 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | IPCC report: Half the world is facing water scarcity, floods and dirty water — large investments are needed for effective solutions | Mar 29 10:19 | |
| matey | though the community INSISTS on dividing into tiers along user/dev lines | Mar 29 10:19 |
| matey | and this pressure comes from the users more than the devs i think | Mar 29 10:20 |
| techrights-news | Mister Pentagon (PentaGAFAM) https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/28/22999754/eric-schmidt-google-money-white-house-science-ai-lander | Mar 29 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Ex-Google CEO funneled money into the White House science office - The Verge | Mar 29 10:20 | |
| matey | as though developeritis is a disease one might contract if certain precautions are not taken | Mar 29 10:21 |
| matey | "i heard jakes got the developer thing now" "wow, really makes you think doesnt it" | Mar 29 10:21 |
| techrights-news | MIT on Misinformation??? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/fake-news-misinformation-mit-study/629396/ Give me a break, MIT. Quit covering up for sex traffickers. http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ | Mar 29 10:21 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theatlantic.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/fake-news-misinformation-mit-study/629396/ | Mar 29 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | I Shared Fake News About a Fake-News Study - The Atlantic | Mar 29 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights | Mar 29 10:21 | |
| techrights-news | "video-game developers, rather than professional historians" https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/history-video-games-europa-universalis/622892/ | Mar 29 10:22 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theatlantic.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/history-video-games-europa-universalis/622892/ | Mar 29 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | What Happens When Kids Get Their History From Video Games? - The Atlantic | Mar 29 10:22 | |
| matey | we are of course talking mostly about hacking on bash scripts and maybe compiling a package sometimes, while creating a package is done with an automated tool anybody (even users) can use | Mar 29 10:22 |
| matey | thats what theyre afraid of accidentally getting sucked into | Mar 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | where are puppy users? | Mar 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | serious question | Mar 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | just sounds a little smelly | Mar 29 10:23 |
| matey | theres a forum somewhere | Mar 29 10:23 |
| matey | smelly? | Mar 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | where in the world? | Mar 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | demography and rigs | Mar 29 10:23 |
| matey | i mean barry is an aussie | Mar 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I know | Mar 29 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but puppy is for low specs | Mar 29 10:24 |
| matey | they have a few brits | Mar 29 10:24 |
| matey | i honestly dont think you get low specs | Mar 29 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the users? | Mar 29 10:24 |
| matey | low specs are popular all over the world, not just where needed | Mar 29 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | puppy is good for weak hardware | Mar 29 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | old stuff | Mar 29 10:24 |
| matey | yes but it runs on new stuff | Mar 29 10:25 |
| matey | its based on ubuntu | Mar 29 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but then the reason to choose puppy isn't quite there | Mar 29 10:25 |
| matey | so basically, imagine who would have used lxde when that was a thing | Mar 29 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne | Mar 29 10:25 |
| matey | i dont think as many people choose puppy as before | Mar 29 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and me | Mar 29 10:25 |
| matey | it was designed in the era where burning cdrs was the typical way of using a distro-- easyos doesnt even have an iso, its usb only | Mar 29 10:26 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_OS | Mar 29 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Raspberry Pi OS - Wikipedia | Mar 29 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | "Raspberry Pi OS uses a modified LXDE as its desktop environment with the Openbox stacking window manager, along with a unique theme." | Mar 29 10:26 |
| matey | right | Mar 29 10:26 |
| matey | so im wrong that no one uses lxde anymore, obviously | Mar 29 10:27 |
| matey | its news to me | Mar 29 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is limited but very vewwwy vewwwyw wiiighyweight | Mar 29 10:27 |
| matey | but lots of low end hardware, if puppy runs on it. | Mar 29 10:27 |
| matey | i never tried puppy when i had a pi | Mar 29 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | there might be 100 million pies out there | Mar 29 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | 50m+ | Mar 29 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pis | Mar 29 10:27 |
| techrights-news | BillPR (NPR) promoting Gates shares https://text.npr.org/1086790531 | Mar 29 10:28 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1086790531 | Mar 29 10:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Misinformation is derailing renewable energy projects across the United States | Mar 29 10:28 | |
| techrights-news | "It was a remarkable moment in the war in Europe: President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine gave a 90-minute-long Zoom interview on Sunday to four prominent journalists from Russia" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/world/europe/russia-media-zelensky.html | Mar 29 10:29 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/world/europe/russia-media-zelensky.html | Mar 29 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Zelensky Gives Interview to Russian Journalists. Moscow Orders It Quashed. - The New York Times | Mar 29 10:29 | |
| matey | if puppy does run on a pi, and someone showed it to me and it ran a LOT better than raspbian, i wouldnt be surprised at all | Mar 29 10:29 |
| matey | the only distro ive seen that compares to puppy in this way is antix | Mar 29 10:29 |
| matey | also github based | Mar 29 10:29 |
| matey | and apologetic (trollishly so) for geoclue | Mar 29 10:29 |
| matey | but is it ever stupidly fast | Mar 29 10:30 |
| techrights-news | "In recent years these episodes have risen to an alarming level, with increasing cases of fatal violence." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/20/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-religious-violence.html | Mar 29 10:30 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/20/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-religious-violence.html | Mar 29 10:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Religion-Fueled Mobs on the Rise Again in Pakistan - The New York Times | Mar 29 10:30 | |
| matey | i dont even understand how | Mar 29 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | is dsl still a contender? | Mar 29 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | was it jim or jwm? | Mar 29 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | icewm? | Mar 29 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe both? | Mar 29 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | UI forgot | Mar 29 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have an old laptop with it | Mar 29 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | 90s laptop | Mar 29 10:31 |
| matey | no, dsl has been tinycore for at least a decade | Mar 29 10:31 |
| matey | more than that | Mar 29 10:31 |
| matey | dsl was john and robert | Mar 29 10:31 |
| matey | robert didnt like johns lack of respect for gpl | Mar 29 10:31 |
| matey | he finally left and created tinycore instead of dsl | Mar 29 10:32 |
| matey | john didnt have the skills robert did | Mar 29 10:32 |
| schestowitz | oops, I meant Joe, not Jim | Mar 29 10:32 |
| schestowitz | JWM (Joe's Window Manager) | Mar 29 10:32 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWM | Mar 29 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | JWM - Wikipedia | Mar 29 10:32 | |
| matey | tinycore didnt use jwm, i think puppy still does. | Mar 29 10:32 |
| matey | jwm and rox-desktop (rox-filer) | Mar 29 10:33 |
| matey | dsl used jwm as you seem to be suggesting | Mar 29 10:33 |
| techrights-news | The banning of Destiny & why I’m deleting twitch ⚓ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-banning-of-destiny-why-i'm-deleting:7 ䷉ Source: rossmanngroup | Mar 29 10:35 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: odysee.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-banning-of-destiny-why-i'm-deleting:7 | Mar 29 10:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | The banning of Destiny & why I'm deleting twitch | Mar 29 10:35 | |
| techrights-news | Matt cartoons – March 2022 - News ⚓ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/matt-cartoons-march-2022/ ䷉ Source: telegraph | Mar 29 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Matt cartoons – March 2022 - News | Mar 29 10:36 | |
| matey | the main thing about jwm is i was editing its xml-based config and thought "you know, i dont think i ever want to do this again" | Mar 29 10:36 |
| matey | something about editing xml-based configs i find depressing. weird, but there it is. its not too hard or anything. | Mar 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like a job for a gui | Mar 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not a hard-to-make GUI | Mar 29 10:37 |
| matey | sure but you know how it is with guis | Mar 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | or dialog | Mar 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ncurses | Mar 29 10:37 |
| matey | oh never ncurses, this is puppy | Mar 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of things that automate the packaging of it | Mar 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | enter permissible option set | Mar 29 10:37 |
| matey | puppy has redone its gui stuff so many times, i simply cant be bothered | Mar 29 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did that many times before with my own programs | Mar 29 10:38 |
| matey | nothing ties you to jwm in puppy really, so unless you prefer it, yo ucan just use something else | Mar 29 10:38 |
| matey | i was partial to icewm | Mar 29 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | in several languages and frameworks | Mar 29 10:38 |
| techrights-news | Feudalism https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/28/corporations-are-suppressing-wages-theres-an-easy-fix-for-that/ | Mar 29 10:39 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/28/corporations-are-suppressing-wages-theres-an-easy-fix-for-that/ | Mar 29 10:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corporations Are Suppressing Wages...There’s an Easy Fix for That - CounterPunch.org | Mar 29 10:39 | |
| techrights-news | Donald Biden https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/28/biden-on-putin/ | Mar 29 10:42 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/28/biden-on-putin/ | Mar 29 10:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden on Putin - CounterPunch.org | Mar 29 10:42 | |
| techrights-news | After the fall The old pillars of Russia’s free press have crumbled, but the journalists who ran those publications carry on. https://meduza.io/en/slides/after-the-fall | Mar 29 10:43 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: meduza.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/slides/after-the-fall | Mar 29 10:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Mar 29 10:43 | |
| techrights-news | "As a purely electronic device, it’s well outside the realm of conventional musical instruments. Two radio antennas detect the position of the musician’s hands to make a unique sound traditionally associated with eeriness or science fiction." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/28/raspberry-pi-creates-melody/ | Mar 29 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi Creates Melody | Hackaday | Mar 29 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | "The wildly successful PDP-11 minicomputer was a major influence on the evolution of computing throughout the 1970s" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/28/pdp-11-34-restoration-and-the-virtue-of-persistence/ | Mar 29 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PDP-11/34 Restoration And The Virtue Of Persistence | Hackaday | Mar 29 10:45 | |
| techrights-news | Hollywood 'owns' the Net now? https://torrentfreak.com/court-denies-coxs-challenge-of-1-billion-music-piracy-verdict-220328/ | Mar 29 10:46 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/court-denies-coxs-challenge-of-1-billion-music-piracy-verdict-220328/ | Mar 29 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Denies Cox's Challenge of $1 Billion Music Piracy Verdict * TorrentFreak | Mar 29 10:46 | |
| techrights-news | "A little over a week ago a number of Destiny content creators had DMCA notices filed against their videos on" GulagTube https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-files-lawsuit-to-punish-senders-of-fake-destiny-dmca-notices-220328/ | Mar 29 10:47 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-files-lawsuit-to-punish-senders-of-fake-destiny-dmca-notices-220328/ | Mar 29 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bungie Files Lawsuit to Punish Senders of Fake Destiny DMCA Notices * TorrentFreak | Mar 29 10:47 | |
| techrights-news | Biden asks for more [bailout money for Microsoft] https://truthout.org/articles/biden-asks-congress-for-a-record-breaking-813-billion-in-military-spending/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Mar 29 10:49 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/biden-asks-congress-for-a-record-breaking-813-billion-in-military-spending/ | Mar 29 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Biden Asks Congress for a Record-Breaking $813 Billion in Military Spending | Mar 29 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | Mar 29 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | US media, owned by oligarchs: let's entertain the masses with reports about collapse of Russian economy (at whose expense???) while our OWN economy is rotting away. Nationalism as the last recourse of failed capitalism. | Mar 29 10:51 |
| techrights-news | "The chairman of a congressional subcommittee has asked Apple and Gulag to help stop fraud against U.S. taxpayers on Telegram" https://www.propublica.org/article/congressional-chair-asks-google-and-apple-to-help-stop-fraud-against-u-s-taxpayers-on-telegram propublica bags bribes from pervert Bill Gates, so this famous criminal and the criminals from Microsoft are no longer scrutinised by propublica | Mar 29 10:54 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: propublica.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/congressional-chair-asks-google-and-apple-to-help-stop-fraud-against-u-s-taxpayers-on-telegram | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Congressional Chair Asks Google and Apple to Help Stop Fraud Against U.S. Taxpayers on Telegram — ProPublica | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| techrights-news | "I’ll give Nintendo this much: the company certainly is an absolute master at enforcing copyright in the most extreme, pettiest manner possible." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/nintendo-hates-you-scans-of-super-mario-64-manual-taken-down-via-copyright-claim/ | Mar 29 10:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nintendo Hates You: Scans Of ‘Super Mario 64’ Manual Taken Down Via Copyright Claim | Techdirt | Mar 29 10:58 | |
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| techrights-news | Read the comments here. EU and EPO became 99% corruption when it comes to patent law. http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/23/is-upc-victim-of-a-latent-vice/#comments | Mar 29 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Is UPC Victim of a Latent Vice? - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 29 11:03 | |
| techrights-news | Gulag kills things, including the Web. "The Feedburner Twitter account is inactive and recommends that people Tweet at Google instead. It seems that Google wants to get rid of the service and random 404s probably aren’t a high priority for them." https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/03/29/feedburner-dying/ | Mar 29 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Feedburner Seems to be Dying « etbe - Russell Coker | Mar 29 11:05 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tqegvjsx7fdka.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 29 11:10 | |
| DaemonFC | I hate Reddit. | Mar 29 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | "This app has unlimited dogs." You have to click "No thanks, I don't like dogs.". | Mar 29 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then it does the same thing about cats, and that time it says "Continue in browser.". | Mar 29 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | <techrights-news> US media, owned by oligarchs: let's entertain the masses with reports about collapse of Russian economy (at whose expense???) while our OWN economy is rotting away. Nationalism as the last recourse of failed capitalism. | Mar 29 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Robert Reich is pennin op-eds in the grauniad. | Mar 29 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Stallman links to those too. | Mar 29 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | This time he's saying the Fed shouldn't raise rates from zero because it won't slow down inflation. | Mar 29 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | The only point of keeping rates at zero is to give large companies taxpayer-funded debt to do share buybacks with to make the economy look like it's growing. | Mar 29 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | It has absolutely nothing to do with employment levels. They fire people even now. | Mar 29 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Interest rate hikes have little to do with the business cycle. If anything, they're so low they create moral hazards, like the buybacks. | Mar 29 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:13] <DaemonFC> The only point of keeping rates at zero is to give large companies taxpayer-funded debt to do share buybacks with to make the economy look like it's growing. | Mar 29 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes!] | Mar 29 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | savers' accounts looted | Mar 29 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | by just sitting there | Mar 29 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | losing value | Mar 29 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | worse: | Mar 29 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they could be diverted into "the stock market" | Mar 29 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | until it's epic collapse | Mar 29 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed is raising rates. I think it will slow down inflation because it's going to billionaires to build yachts the size of the Sears Tower. | Mar 29 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | only inside-trading frauds will know where to quit and cash in | Mar 29 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | US has a phantom economy | Mar 29 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and has for decades | Mar 29 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's all borrowings | Mar 29 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | UK economy like all others suffers also | Mar 29 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not to the same degree | Mar 29 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't have millions living in the streets | Mar 29 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:51] <techrights-news> US media, owned by oligarchs: let's entertain the masses with reports about collapse of Russian economy (at whose expense???) while our OWN economy is rotting away. Nationalism as the last recourse of failed capitalism. | Mar 29 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | Boris..... | Mar 29 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | Former American....quit due to IRS. | Mar 29 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | 10 point plan to making spiking the homeless look humane by comparison. | Mar 29 11:21 |
| techrights-news | "Trump’s Truth Social is having getting users to actually use the platform" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/trumpists-admit-that-their-own-social-media-platforms-arent-much-fun-when-they-cant-use-them-to-own-the-libs/ | Mar 29 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trumpists Admit That Their Own Social Media Platforms Aren’t Much Fun When They Can’t Use Them To Own The Libs | Techdirt | Mar 29 11:22 | |
| DaemonFC | One reason both countries like propping up Ukraine is because they can give them a bunch of missiles that were aging and then dump money into replacing the stockpile. | Mar 29 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, the older ones are blowing up Russians. | Mar 29 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | For a politician, nothing to lose there. | Mar 29 11:23 |
| techrights-news | "Dozens of prominent figures from the world of entertainment have come together to support hip hop artist and political campaigner Lowkey, after he was subject to a smear campaign and an attempt to remove his work from music streaming platform Spotify." https://www.mintpressnews.com/michael-malarkey-styles-p-wretch32-fredwreck-among-stars-condemning-israel-lobbys-attempt-cancel-lowkey/280098/ | Mar 29 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Michael Malarkey, Styles P, Wretch32 & FredWreck among stars condemning Israel Lobby’s Attempt to Cancel Lowkey | Mar 29 11:24 | |
| DaemonFC | At least the mayor of San Francisco has the right name for what she's up to. "London" | Mar 29 11:24 |
| techrights-news | Cars are corrosive to freedom. They used to be marketed as tools of independence and emancipation. Not the "new" cars. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-investigation-mystery-gps-tracker-supporters-car | Mar 29 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | An EFF Investigation: Mystery GPS Tracker On A Supporter’s Car | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 29 11:25 | |
| DaemonFC | I drove over a curb this morning in the dark. | Mar 29 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | I pulled over at the Mobil station to fill up because all the other stations are spiking 30 cents a gallon. | Mar 29 11:26 |
| techrights-news | Social CONTROL Media https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-files-foia-lawsuit-against-dhs-shed-light-vetting-program-collect-and-data-mine | Mar 29 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Files FOIA Lawsuit Against DHS to Shed Light on Vetting Program to Collect and Data Mine Immigrants' Social Media | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 29 11:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Looked it over, didn't see any damage. The car still handles fine. | Mar 29 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | They put those stupid curbs everywhere even when there's no reason to. | Mar 29 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | In the middle of the road even. | Mar 29 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | They think it helps avoid accidents, but then people just go ahead and drive over them anyway, deliberately. | Mar 29 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes the roads smaller | Mar 29 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I didn't blow a tire. | Mar 29 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Fuckers | Mar 29 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I hate living in a city. Everything is so cramped. | Mar 29 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | Oh here's an empty state. Quick! Everyone! Pile into 1 county! | Mar 29 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Pay $2,500 for a studio! | Mar 29 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Get shot for your wallet! | Mar 29 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Nowhere to park! | Mar 29 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be FUN! | Mar 29 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't, you're missing out! People GET IT! - Mr. GOOOOOOOOOLAG | Mar 29 11:30 |
| techrights-news | Bailouts for Microsoft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/we-do-not-need-massive-increase-sanders-criticizes-bidens-813-billion-military see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Mar 29 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'We Do Not Need a Massive Increase': Sanders Criticizes Biden's $813 Billion Military Budget | Mar 29 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights | Mar 29 11:30 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Looks like John found himself a roommate and moved next to the sound in Seattle. | Mar 29 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | My guess is that after they fired him he had to take a lower wage somewhere else. | Mar 29 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Didn't want to leave the area. | Mar 29 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Seattle, eh? | Mar 29 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | do they swap CP? | Mar 29 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Probably. | Mar 29 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | Rick Allen John | Mar 29 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they've been solving cases the same way around these parts as Rick Jones. | Mar 29 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I saw it in the news the other day. | Mar 29 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | They busted a guy in McHenry for CP because an "unnamed Internet Service Provider" reported him to the NCMEC, and they contacted the police department. | Mar 29 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | Unnamed ISP could mean anything, but probably Apple or Google. | Mar 29 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | They said they found it on his phone. So there's a hint. | Mar 29 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he used the phone to hook up witn rich people | Mar 29 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | rich allen jones | Mar 29 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "rich" people... wink wink | Mar 29 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | touch nose | Mar 29 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Both scour your Clown storage looking for it, and the phones make backups of pictures and videos by default. | Mar 29 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | And Apple says they plan to add the scanner "later". | Mar 29 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, they can add it whenever they want. You won't know. | Mar 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | so techrights has lots of work to do | Mar 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | exposing what tech is becoming | Mar 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: rremember that in some countries illegal content is stuff like tibet | Mar 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | or flags of taiwan | Mar 29 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as anything hits your hard drive in Windows, Microsoft knows what it is. | Mar 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple bowed down | Mar 29 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | That also means they know for sure who is "pirating" software, and which software. | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | IF | Mar 29 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | And since you have to log in with a Microsoft account, they know whose account it is as well. | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | IF they get their way | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we inform people | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they wioll walk away | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | china made phones that suppress speech | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, if you criticise the regime | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's turned off in the european market | Mar 29 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | for now | Mar 29 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ is to programmers what the Wagner Group is to Putin. | Mar 29 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | But he acts like he does Free Software. | Mar 29 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course "piracy" and CP and "|terrorism" are straw men here | Mar 29 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about control | Mar 29 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | He's a mercenary for the deep state. | Mar 29 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they call you stuff if you express dissent | Mar 29 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: free software like CCTV 'doorbell' | Mar 29 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | a CCTV in every home | Mar 29 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | orwell (blair) called them telescreens? | Mar 29 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft is securing the PC" < Motherfucker please! Kiss my ass. They can't even secure their own networks and source code repos. | Mar 29 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | You think they're securing your laptop? | Mar 29 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 11:38 |
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| techrights-news | "Russia's draconian censorship tactics must stop." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/free-press-advocates-demand-end-russian-censorship-last-independent-paper-closes | Mar 29 11:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Free Press Advocates Demand End to Russian Censorship as Last Independent Paper Closes | Mar 29 11:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Now he's microsplogging about the Plutocrat chip that Microsoft and AMD are putting in. | Mar 29 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason these things are there is to create a "protected data path" to help your computer betray you by hiding what it is doing. | Mar 29 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Mar 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Pluton-crat | Mar 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | you pay to borrow | Mar 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'your' laptop | Mar 29 11:42 |
| techrights-news | "The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court in San Francisco, seeks records on the current status of the program" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/public-has-right-know-how-dhs-spending-millions-spy-immigrants-social-media | Mar 29 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The Public Has a Right to Know How DHS is Spending Millions to Spy on Immigrants on Social Media | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 29 11:43 | |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Breed#Housing_and_homelessness | Mar 29 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | London Breed - Wikipedia | Mar 29 11:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Breed created a task force of members of the San Francisco Department of Public Works to clean up feces from city sidewalks, known as a Poop Patrol.[53][54] | Mar 29 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, "I love San Francisco!" "People here get it!" | Mar 29 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | They get human shit on their shoes. | Mar 29 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | And all for the low low cost of triple the national average cost of living. | Mar 29 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimdalrympleii/san-francisco-poop-patrol-street-clean-up | Mar 29 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | A "Poop Patrol" Is Going To Start Cleaning Feces Off San Francisco's Filthy Sidewalks | Mar 29 11:45 | |
| techrights-news | Patents kill. Because it iis profitable. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/covid-19-vaccine-apartheid-exacerbating-global-inequalities-un | Mar 29 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Covid-19 Vaccine Apartheid Is Exacerbating Global Inequalities: UN | Mar 29 11:45 | |
| DaemonFC | "The scope of the problem is staggering. According to data from the public works department, requests for feces-related steam cleaning have been steadily increasing in recent years, hitting a high of 16,473 in 2017. So far this year, there have already been 9,735 feces-related steamer requests — more than the city received during the entirety of 2015." | Mar 29 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | That was before COVID. | Mar 29 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | 16,473 request tickets filed over individual piles of human shit on the sidewalk in 2017. | Mar 29 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | So you know there was more, and this is how many people got on an app and complained about. | Mar 29 11:47 |
| *bnchs (~bnchs@rpt27srzpmtni.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 29 11:48 | |
| bnchs | pluton is meant for more control | Mar 29 11:48 |
| bnchs | soon the laptops will be thin clients to the "cloud" | Mar 29 11:48 |
| bnchs | like chromebooks | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they hope... | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we need to fight back | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maintain demand for real computers | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those thin clients | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | they run modern gnu/linux distros OK | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and have enough storage | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you look at low-cost high-end | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | just need to make sure you can change/wipe them | Mar 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | the companies try to make it harder | Mar 29 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | "The GOOLAG engineer left his $4,500 a month micro-apartment, stepped in a pile of homeless shit, and then made his way to the cafe on the end of his street for $30 bagel and coffee.....'At least I don't live in Indiana!", he said, as if trying to convince himself." | Mar 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like having to open the device (voiding warrantee) to mess around with screws | Mar 29 11:50 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: i like to imagine about the thin client future | Mar 29 11:50 |
| bnchs | imagine doing wrongthink | Mar 29 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | "On his way back, he got mugged and witnessed yet another attack on an Asian woman..... 'At least it's not Texas!' he said under his breath." | Mar 29 11:50 |
| bnchs | and your files gets locked away | Mar 29 11:50 |
| bnchs | and OS deleted | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine? | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it happened | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | many times | Mar 29 11:51 |
| bnchs | yeah i know | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | OS deleted not yet | Mar 29 11:51 |
| bnchs | but what if it was a thin client | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that might be next | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the OS is not en enablement tool | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | better keep it on | Mar 29 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | to spy on the wrongthinker | Mar 29 11:51 |
| bnchs | they can brick your computer and fuck up your data | Mar 29 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | "He stepped in shit again, sighed, and filed a steam cleaning request on his app." | Mar 29 11:51 |
| bnchs | yeah thats also a pro | Mar 29 11:51 |
| bnchs | they can also look at your files | Mar 29 11:52 |
| bnchs | without having to sneak malware | Mar 29 11:52 |
| bnchs | or bullshit | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: there will be a massive pushback | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, the companies that do this rely on a collapsing economy | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they can go under | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | like other clown companies did before them | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | we just need to buy time | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and call out the culprits | Mar 29 11:52 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | not in social control media | Mar 29 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | they control that | Mar 29 11:52 |
| bnchs | they're trying to normalize it first | Mar 29 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Jamie Zawinski checked out the Amazon "feature" that lets you request the data they admit to having on you. | Mar 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | they suppress/censor/hide it | Mar 29 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's hundreds of ZIP files, with individual links. | Mar 29 11:53 |
| bnchs | normalize it first | Mar 29 11:53 |
| bnchs | then go with the plan | Mar 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they succeed | Mar 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | they lose tons opf money | Mar 29 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | And they contain thousands of CSV files. | Mar 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think aws is the only one that became profitable | Mar 29 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the rest are a bubble | Mar 29 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | They've done it in such a way that nobody will bother. | Mar 29 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, AWS collapses and takes out "half the Web".... | Mar 29 11:54 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: someone asked a question for how to find powerful servers | Mar 29 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | Much like the rest. | Mar 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: good! | Mar 29 11:54 |
| bnchs | for processing data | Mar 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't get me excited! | Mar 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not ready yet | Mar 29 11:54 |
| bnchs | and someone answered with "just buy a tablet" | Mar 29 11:54 |
| bnchs | "and a VPS/cloud server" | Mar 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown server | Mar 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | does it come with elephants and monkeys? | Mar 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a lady that walks a tightrope? | Mar 29 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | Just buy an iPad and then you too can be stuck watching hours and hours of YouTube commercials because nothing that blocks ads can access it. | Mar 29 11:55 |
| bnchs | this is an answer for a question to how to find powerful computers | Mar 29 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'll post many videos and stuff that confront this vision | Mar 29 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | "every litle helps..." | Mar 29 11:55 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 11:56 |
| bnchs | theres disservices like whatsapp | Mar 29 11:56 |
| bnchs | that doesnt even let you locally backup | Mar 29 11:57 |
| techrights-news | "U.S. regulatory enforcement and punishment for companies that rip consumers off with sneaky fees is not what you’d call… consistent." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/dc-ag-sues-grubhub-for-sneaky-fees-screwing-over-local-restaurants/ | Mar 29 11:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DC AG Sues Grubhub For Sneaky Fees, Screwing Over Local Restaurants | Techdirt | Mar 29 11:57 | |
| bnchs | its just backup to the cloud (unencrypted btw) | Mar 29 11:57 |
| bnchs | clown* | Mar 29 11:57 |
| techrights-news | Patents kill. Rich sociopaths use the patents to profit from the deaths. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/28/global-leaders-urge-nations-eschew-weakened-trips-waiver-proposal | Mar 29 11:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Global Leaders Urge Nations to Eschew 'Weakened' TRIPS Waiver Proposal | Mar 29 11:58 | |
| techrights-news | "The proposal looks simple enough. A huge portion of the regulations we all live by (such as fire safety codes, or the national electrical code) are initially written -- by industry experts" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/pro-codes-act-wolf-sheeps-clothing | Mar 29 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The Pro Codes Act Is a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 29 11:58 | |
| bnchs | theres disservices that dont even let you backup locally | Mar 29 11:59 |
| bnchs | including iOS | Mar 29 11:59 |
| techrights-news | "It seems that each week another ridiculously unconstitutional “content moderation” bill pops up in another state. Beyond the fact that nearly all of these bills are preempted by federal law" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/apparently-unwilling-to-learn-from-florida-texass-failures-georgia-moves-forward-with-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ | Mar 29 11:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apparently Unwilling To Learn From Florida & Texas’s Failures, Georgia Moves Forward With Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt | Mar 29 11:59 | |
| DaemonFC | "San Francisco faces a "challenging street population," Gordon said, adding that officials have rolled out several programs to deal with it. One program, called Pit Stop, has placed 22 staffed public toilets around the city." | Mar 29 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Mar 29 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | Challenging street population. | Mar 29 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | That's....wow. | Mar 29 11:59 |
| techrights-news | "The FBI owes its oversight — and the public the oversight serves — plenty of answers. But let’s set our expectations any higher than reality dictates" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/house-judiciary-committee-wants-the-fbi-to-explain-why-it-keeps-targeting-journalists-religious-groups-and-politicians/ | Mar 29 11:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House Judiciary Committee Wants The FBI To Explain Why It Keeps Targeting Journalists, Religious Groups, And Politicians | Techdirt | Mar 29 11:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, San Francisco no longer has homeless. They have a challenging street population. | Mar 29 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | everyone in SF is a dick | Mar 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | problem solved | Mar 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and everyone in SF is alsoa pussy | Mar 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I gather, the original SF residents left | Mar 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the industry wiped out the place | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now you end up with pentagon valley | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and people like mozilla's ceo with more than $3,000,000 in annual salary | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | while the country is over 30 trillion dollars in national debt | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even counting personal debt | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll collapse like USSR | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe by 2025 | Mar 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course it won't be portrayed as such | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they'd rather walk into wars | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | meanwhile china is still rising | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the PC I bought is made in China | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | like my dad said yesterday, a lot of the capital goes to china now | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the US brands | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's a deceit associated with that | Mar 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | china still seems more as it distributes the money among 1.5 billion heads | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | US is already over | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ask most americans how they're doing | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might say they still pay some mortgage | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | if youi can speak to them | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they live in a van it's harder to reach them | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-TR, San Francisco no longer has homeless. They have a challenging street population. | Mar 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | they became "challenging street population" | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | in a home that needs gas to move | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gas is expensive, you know | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | better poop on the pavement | Mar 29 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Homeless people living in a van have been an issue here and at the motel. | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | a well known issue here with travellers | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "gypsies" | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | in vans | Mar 29 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't report them to anyone because that would just be kicking a guy while he's down. | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're not ethnic "gypsies" | Mar 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the term here means trravellers | Mar 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | they leave their poop behind | Mar 29 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like the state of Illinois is going to help them. If anything, they'd take the kids away. | Mar 29 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | Put them in some awful foster house. | Mar 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not their fauls | Mar 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the economy is failing them | Mar 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but hey | Mar 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least unemployement is all-time low ;-) ;-) | Mar 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "never been better" | Mar 29 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | People buy old U-Haul vans and convert them with dining tables and beds and stuff. | Mar 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | see NYSE/NASDAQ | Mar 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | NYSE/NASDAQ makes them smile | Mar 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they watch the CRT | Mar 29 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | The boob tube. | Mar 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't have food until Friday... but at least NYSE/NASDAQ is up today | Mar 29 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | The idiot's lantern. | Mar 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | near manilla some people live in the graveyard | Mar 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they turn tombs into shacks | Mar 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some of them are lucky to have antenna with reception | Mar 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | abs/cbn among the corpses | Mar 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "look at me now!!" | Mar 29 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/641152/why-is-television-called-boob-tube | Mar 29 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mentalfloss.com | Why Is TV Called the 'Boob Tube'? | Mar 29 12:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Today the "vast wasteland" of ads and shit is YouTube. | Mar 29 12:10 |
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| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 12:10 |
| bnchs | fewer good content on youtube | Mar 29 12:10 |
| bnchs | its just soulless boring videos | Mar 29 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | The iPad and iPhone are the 21st century boob tube. | Mar 29 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | Same effect. | Mar 29 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | People just sitting there decaying, watching an endless procession of ads and horseshit. | Mar 29 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Mandy was upset that I wasn't cooking larger portions of meat in the slow cooker. I said "It's meant to be served on top of rice. Besides, you hate leftovers and I'm constantly having to nag you to take the rest of it to work, even when you LIKED dinner!" | Mar 29 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | He really has gone native. | Mar 29 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | "COOK MORE!" Why? "SO IT CAN ROT IN THE FRIDGE! I'LL BE OVER HERE WITH MY IPHONE!" | Mar 29 12:16 |
| bnchs | "cook moar" | Mar 29 12:16 |
| bnchs | americans really do be like this | Mar 29 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | I heard a figure that people waste about $300-600 worth of groceries, per year, per person here. | Mar 29 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | Unbelievable. | Mar 29 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | They work for 1-2 weeks just to let the food they buy go bad. | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:10] <bnchs> fewer good content on youtube | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember this: | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | GOOD content | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | means | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | NOT profitable | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | SHIT means MONEY | Mar 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gulag wants to actually profit from all this 'free' hosting | Mar 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | vimeo now charges $10,000 or more | Mar 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | terrible biz mode | Mar 29 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | The reason why there's nothing good on, on Netflix or much else, is because good writing and good acting and good production value costs MONEY. | Mar 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it's a surprise | Mar 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they entrapped many firms and people | Mar 29 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you can fill up your time slots with things that cost little money and draw people in who are susceptible to advertising, you get better returns. | Mar 29 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | So that's what you do. | Mar 29 12:19 |
| bnchs | its like the creators sold out their soul to sponsors | Mar 29 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever PBS puts some shows on, with rare exception, it's stuff they licensed from foreign public TV networks, like CBC and BBC. | Mar 29 12:19 |
| bnchs | sometimes the sponsors have strict rules | Mar 29 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's because PBS has been picked clean by the Republicans. | Mar 29 12:20 |
| bnchs | so it makes the creator selfcensor a ton | Mar 29 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | They even had to have HBO bail out Sesame Street. | Mar 29 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | Which is the longest running children's show in America, and used to be very educational. | Mar 29 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, they even touched some things that were really heavy for kids, like death. | Mar 29 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | When the actor for Mr. Hooper died, they didn't write him off as having moved away or something, the character was dead and they talked about grief and loss. | Mar 29 12:21 |
| bnchs | and divorce? | Mar 29 12:21 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: i think thats better | Mar 29 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuffy's_Parents_Get_a_Divorce | Mar 29 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce - Wikipedia | Mar 29 12:22 | |
| bnchs | its better to tell people that the character died | Mar 29 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | "It never aired." | Mar 29 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, divorce is a problem. | Mar 29 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Adam Ruins Everything tried to portray it as good because it's convenient. | Mar 29 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Anything "convenient" is necessarily "good" now, and that's why society falls apart. One big reason, anyway. | Mar 29 12:23 |
| bnchs | lol | Mar 29 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't want to make dinner, nuke some burritos. | Mar 29 12:23 |
| bnchs | portaying everyone convenient as good | Mar 29 12:23 |
| bnchs | everything* | Mar 29 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't want to stay with the person you had kids with, get a divorce! | Mar 29 12:23 |
| bnchs | thats why we have social control media | Mar 29 12:23 |
| bnchs | the clown | Mar 29 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | Who cares what you fuck up? Who you fuck up! | Mar 29 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | Just do whatever you want! | Mar 29 12:23 |
| bnchs | and computers with locked bootlosder | Mar 29 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | Get on Grindr....stop brushing your teeth. | Mar 29 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's bad for you, but that's probably months or years away! | Mar 29 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing is "wrong" anymore. | Mar 29 12:24 |
| bnchs | the best way to get people using something | Mar 29 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | Don't you know that nobody likes a party pooper? | Mar 29 12:24 |
| bnchs | is to make it convenient | Mar 29 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and | Mar 29 12:25 |
| bnchs | nobody wants to make effort | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | addictive | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they have withdrawal symptoms | Mar 29 12:25 |
| bnchs | they only want short-term pleasure | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | psychological tricks | Mar 29 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like Mandy. | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | preying on insecureities | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | your friends in FB are waiting | Mar 29 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | Burying himself in the room, sleeping all day and playing with a phone. | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they worry you are a loser | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | go back there | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | show them disneyworld pics | Mar 29 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like, who the fuck cares what happens in a game you tap on and watch ads to "grind"? | Mar 29 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | fomo is another one | Mar 29 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Who is entertained by this? | Mar 29 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Honestly. | Mar 29 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | different, but also addiction-based | Mar 29 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they hire psych*ists | Mar 29 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | to learn how to keep the users hooks | Mar 29 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or course those -ists were trained to do the OPPOSITE | Mar 29 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like get people OFF rhew wagon | Mar 29 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | FB hires them to get people ON the WAGON and STAY there | Mar 29 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I doubt Jewel-Osco needs many psychiatrists, but I'm sure they have them. Grocery stores are like anything else, they want to "optimize the business". | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:25] <DaemonFC> Burying himself in the room, sleeping all day and playing with a phone. | Mar 29 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | But the place is almost worth spending the money because they stock their shelves and clean their stores. Walmart is a disaster. | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the important thing is that occasionalyl he leaves | Mar 29 12:27 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: they even do deals with ISPs | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | to work for rich people | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | (waltonm) | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and become a consumer | Mar 29 12:27 |
| bnchs | you know | Mar 29 12:27 |
| bnchs | free facebook access!* | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. use the money from the walton to return it to them | Mar 29 12:27 |
| bnchs | *advertisment money | Mar 29 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | by buying "sweatshop stuff" | Mar 29 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | which neither creates US joibs | Mar 29 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, "Feeding the beast that kills you!" | Mar 29 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | nor gives a fair share to the labour pool | Mar 29 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: yes | Mar 29 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'a a vicious cycle | Mar 29 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why rianne and I consume so little | Mar 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | we reckon lowering the tax is one way not to feed the beast | Mar 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if the beasts hates you, good | Mar 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will try to insult you | Mar 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | laugh at it | Mar 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:27] <bnchs> free facebook access!* | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | zero-rating | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | they own you | Mar 29 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Robert Reich (Stallman's favorite....) says "Consumers are flush with cash!". | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | recih isn't too bad | Mar 29 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | The same phrase and wording that appears in dozens or hundreds of places now. | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, he dated hillary clinton | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | ages ago | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is that he writes for bill's rag now | Mar 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he likes working for "rich people" | Mar 29 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Most people are not flush with cash. They're unemployed or underemployed. | Mar 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: wait | Mar 29 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | My mother is now underemployed thanks to the Catholic Church bungling their budget. | Mar 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | wheck where reichj lives | Mar 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | prob. n ee england | Mar 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the nicer parts of new england | Mar 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot hang around boston in a van or tent | Mar 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | far too cold | Mar 29 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | Sure you can. | Mar 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he might be seeing a fictional version of the country | Mar 29 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | People idle their van for head. | Mar 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | "robert, where should I invest my money" | Mar 29 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | *heat | Mar 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | robert: "well, there's this mutual fund thing that can furnish your pension" | Mar 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | how many USians truly have a pension? | Mar 29 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | Robert Reich just repeats the party line. | Mar 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | with health covered too? | Mar 29 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | Low unemployment, consumers flush with cash.... | Mar 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | hahah | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, like 22 million US millioanures | Mar 29 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | He actually thinks that we're seeing demand pull inflation. | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | which leaves 310 million americans they 'eat' | Mar 29 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | He's delusional. | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | or rent homes to | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | for money | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | or for sex | Mar 29 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | But then in the same article, he acknowledges that companies raise prices "because they can". | Mar 29 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Which is not inflation. | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Mar 29 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's predatory pricing. | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's bingeing | Mar 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | as pointed out elsewhere | Mar 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's cartel-like price0fixing | Mar 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and sleepy is alsee at the wheel | Mar 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | too busy touring poland with nuclear code man | Mar 29 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The Tyson and Perdue chicken companies settled two major lawsuits recently. | Mar 29 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | One, that they were conspiring to charge low prices to chicken growers. | Mar 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case he want to launch some nukes at $otherCountry | Mar 29 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then another one that they were conspiring to gouge customers at the grocery store for the chicken. | Mar 29 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | *errr,,, pay low prices to producers, that is. | Mar 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we only buy discounted | Mar 29 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | So they were driving down their costs, and then price fixing at the store. | Mar 29 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | To gouge. | Mar 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | or mostly, where mostly means 80% or more | Mar 29 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | They made HUGE profit this way. | Mar 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a "life hack" | Mar 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | just need to memorise and adapt (where, when) | Mar 29 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Hillary Clinton has a history with Tyson. | Mar 29 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | They were involved in a bribery scandal when Bill was Governor of Arkansas. | Mar 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | energy companies too | Mar 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have record profits | Mar 29 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | And Walmart. | Mar 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they RAISE prices | Mar 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but Russia "something"... | Mar 29 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | Hillary was there when Walmart was under fire for their "Kathy Lee Gifford" collection of handbags, which were made by child slave labor. | Mar 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | Hillary | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the date of Robert | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Reich | Mar 29 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | She was asked in a confirmation hearing once what she ever did for workers at Walmart, and she couldn't name anything. | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | they want to the movie | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | he says she asked for CHEESE on her popcorn | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: CHEESE! | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the popcorn! | Mar 29 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Not many people truly appreciate classic South Park. | Mar 29 12:37 |
| bnchs | cheese on the popcorn? | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 29 12:37 |
| bnchs | wow | Mar 29 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Kathy Lee Gifford one and the Mecha Streisand were two of my favorites. | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | when robert reich and clinton went ona date | Mar 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | he blogged about it | Mar 29 12:37 |
| bnchs | americans | Mar 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | not fatty enough | Mar 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | "MOAR CHHHHHHHHHSSEEEE!" | Mar 29 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | They went after Hillary too, but by that point it was just stupid. | Mar 29 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | They could have really roasted Hillary, but they didn't. The whole episode was about a nuclear weapon in her vagina. | Mar 29 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | It was terrible. | Mar 29 12:38 |
| bnchs | gotta need my daily unhealthy cholesterol | Mar 29 12:39 |
| bnchs | put cheese on everything | Mar 29 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | South Park ran its course a long time ago. | Mar 29 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised it's even on at all though. | Mar 29 12:40 |
| bnchs | was the guy on the intro playing a banjo or a guitar? | Mar 29 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Cancel Culture has been after anything that's even slightly funny. | Mar 29 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | And it comes on after The Daily Show, which Trevor Noah took over and ruined. He turned it from satirical comedy to Black Grievance Hour. | Mar 29 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | <bnchs> put cheese on everything | Mar 29 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | You forgot bacon. I demand a refund. | Mar 29 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | And this half pound burger is supposed to be 3/4 of a pound. | Mar 29 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | So expect to hear from my attorney! | Mar 29 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | Also, I said EXTRA mayo, EXTRA!!!!! | Mar 29 12:42 |
| *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights | Mar 29 12:42 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad there's no Hardee's around here. | Mar 29 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | I went downstate to get my COVID shot and I was early and there was a Hardee's next door. | Mar 29 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | Next thing I knew, I was eating a 3/4 pound mushroom and swiss burger on sourdough and a large order of fries. | Mar 29 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | I don't normally eat things like THAT, but when I do I do. | Mar 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | deep fry the caking frosting | Mar 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *cake | Mar 29 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | They have a Culver's here, but it's like second mortgage on your house to eat there. | Mar 29 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> deep fry the caking frosting | Mar 29 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Oh I know. My mom and brother have eating habits that's just junk junk junk all the time, every day. | Mar 29 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Enough salt for three days in one day's worth of food. | Mar 29 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | Butter on everything. | Mar 29 12:46 |
| bnchs | deep fry the cheese | Mar 29 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with toffee on it | Mar 29 12:46 |
| bnchs | deep fry the butter on the cheese on the bacon on the BURGER | Mar 29 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | And she's like "Why are you using reduced sodium broth and canned soups in the slow cooker?". | Mar 29 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Because I don't want my heart to explode in my face.". | Mar 29 12:46 |
| bnchs | lol | Mar 29 12:47 |
| bnchs | why are you using reduced sodium | Mar 29 12:47 |
| bnchs | you need to go ALL OR NOTHING | Mar 29 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | You know what she said? | Mar 29 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Now that you're on blood pressure meds, you can just go back to using the regular version.". | Mar 29 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "I wasn't trying to undo the meds and go on double the dose!". | Mar 29 12:48 |
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| bnchs | im on insulin | Mar 29 12:48 |
| bnchs | time to indulge on cake | Mar 29 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | MOAR INSULIN! | Mar 29 12:49 |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163102 | Mar 29 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 12:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, at a certain age, that's generally what doctors say anyway. | Mar 29 12:49 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163103 | Mar 29 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 12:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Like, "Just give her the Pepsi. She's 97 and we'll cover it with more insulin.". | Mar 29 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | And that makes sense, when someone is 97 and could go at any moment. | Mar 29 12:49 |
| bnchs | dude just give her everything | Mar 29 12:49 |
| bnchs | we'll give her more meds | Mar 29 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | "she will be sent packiung" | Mar 29 12:50 |
| bnchs | because fuck eatig healthy | Mar 29 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | But you have people like my family, where most are diabetics in their 30s. | Mar 29 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Because they drink soda like a baby bottle, and it's a 2 liter bottle. | Mar 29 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: dietary viagra | Mar 29 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | or butchering | Mar 29 12:50 |
| bnchs | daemonfc: jesus | Mar 29 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | what I call "plastic" "surgery" | Mar 29 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | You should NOT be a diabetic in your 30s unless it's a genetic defect or something. | Mar 29 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | You just shouldn't. | Mar 29 12:51 |
| bnchs | thats like uhhh | Mar 29 12:51 |
| bnchs | 220 grams of sugar | Mar 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow | Mar 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine that on a table | Mar 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a small bowl | Mar 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so 11% sugars | Mar 29 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | put some cheese in it | Mar 29 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it lacks fats | Mar 29 12:52 |
| bnchs | and 840 calories on that pepsi alone | Mar 29 12:52 |
| bnchs | its only the matter of the rest of the food | Mar 29 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | I don't drink much soda. | Mar 29 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Very occasionally. | Mar 29 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Like, maybe if it's my birthday or something and I'm at a restaurant. | Mar 29 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | i don't always drink soda, but when I do, there's cheese in it! | Mar 29 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Bacon-flavored soda. | Mar 29 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Seen it. | Mar 29 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | is it halal? | Mar 29 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | I just drink lemon water or something. | Mar 29 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | tea, water, lemon | Mar 29 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I don't know. Probably. They use chemicals to flavor stuff. | Mar 29 12:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | or coffee, water, milk/soy | Mar 29 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm making halal chicken tonight. | Mar 29 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like 5-10 cents a cup | Mar 29 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | Got some on markdown and froze it. | Mar 29 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | in SF 5-10 dollars | Mar 29 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | in SF you get better value for it, like sitting on a sofa with thousands of unknown farts and covid variants | Mar 29 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Seen the bacon-dipped bullets? | Mar 29 12:57 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: i've seen people put cheese in noodles | Mar 29 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | Bullets dipped in bacon grease. | Mar 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ceilings that seem incomplete | Mar 29 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | They say they're anti-Muslim bullets. | Mar 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | with air shafts in them | Mar 29 12:58 |
| bnchs | cheese in fucking noodles | Mar 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "it's in style now" | Mar 29 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | <bnchs> cheese in fucking noodles | Mar 29 12:58 |
| bnchs | maybe put some bacon in noodles | Mar 29 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | I make macaroni and cheese sometimes. | Mar 29 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | But I put spinach in mine. | Mar 29 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy will eat almost any vegetable as long as it's cooked. | Mar 29 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people still wear sneakers with lights | Mar 29 12:59 |
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| DaemonFC | So I sneak in fruits and vegetables on him that way. | Mar 29 12:59 |
| bnchs | as long as it's deep fryed* | Mar 29 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | or drive cars with flourescent lighting UNDER the car | Mar 29 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> or drive cars with flourescent lighting UNDER the car | Mar 29 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Good way to get pulled over. | Mar 29 12:59 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: thats what they call glowies? | Mar 29 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Draw the cop's attention to YOU. | Mar 29 12:59 |
| bnchs | glowing agentd | Mar 29 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | "ta ta DUM!! | Mar 29 12:59 |
| bnchs | agents* | Mar 29 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | The only fried vegetable I can't get enough of is okra. | Mar 29 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | And you make that in a cast iron skillet, not a deep fryer. | Mar 29 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Good with ketchup. | Mar 29 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | I get the ketchup with 50% less sugar and salt. | Mar 29 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not really trying to avoid sugar, but I am trying to avoid salt. | Mar 29 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | what % of today's ketchup is tomatoes? | Mar 29 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, are brands like heinz more or less actyal veg? | Mar 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | Good question. The 50% less sugar actually has sugar though. | Mar 29 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of the cheap ones feel entirely artificial | Mar 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | The normal ketchup has High Fructose Corn Syrup. | Mar 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe our resident failed biologist can explain why HFCS isn't bad. | Mar 29 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me check our fridge | Mar 29 13:03 |
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| DaemonFC | HFCS makes no sense. The only reasons they use it in most stuff here is because of corn subsidies and sugar tariffs. | Mar 29 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, it says 174grams of tomato per 100 gram of "finished product" | Mar 29 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so after the water is removed | Mar 29 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | a 500gram bottle of tube of it can be 800 grams of actual veg | Mar 29 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and assuming you have just 20 grams per seving | Mar 29 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like 30 grams raw tomato | Mar 29 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is barely a bite | Mar 29 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i mean a bite of the actual vegetable | Mar 29 13:06 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they should call it "sugarsalt sauce" | Mar 29 13:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, You can make ketchup yourself cheaper. | Mar 29 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | My great grandmother did it even well after there were cheap store-bought ketchups on the market. | Mar 29 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | I've made ketchup before. In fact, I may do it again. | Mar 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D544.jpg | Mar 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D186.jpg | Mar 29 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | I bought a lot of tomato sauce and paste at Aldi at one point and to use some of it up, I might make some ketchup out of it. | Mar 29 13:11 |
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| DaemonFC | Of course without preservatives, you kind of have to limit yourself as to how much to make at one time. | Mar 29 13:12 |
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| DaemonFC | One reason there is so much salt in the store-bought crap is because they're trying to preserve it. | Mar 29 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | And bacteria doesn't thrive as well in salt solutions. | Mar 29 13:13 |
| bnchs | i used to eat sweetened condensed milk | Mar 29 13:13 |
| techrights-news | "I was using the cheapest, nastiest Microsoft Mouse I've seen — in true Microsoft Fashion it's called Microsoft Wired Basic USB Optical Mouse for Business. It's flimsy and just like a real mouse, squeaks if you squeeze it too hard." gemini://shit.cx/tech/devenv/2022-03-28-microsoft-pro-intellimouse/ | Mar 29 13:13 |
| bnchs | it was like diabetes in a can | Mar 29 13:13 |
| techrights-news | I am considering making an RSS feed by hand, and even a Gemlog index by hand, on my flounder.online page, replacing the link to the problematic flounder's Atom feed." gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-03-28-feeds.gmi | Mar 29 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | But processed foods generally have so much salt in them you can take out a quarter to half of it and the taste doesn't change very much. | Mar 29 13:14 |
| bnchs | i think i dont need to tell you how much sugar it had in one can | Mar 29 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Reduced sodium (by 25%) luncheon meat (Walmart's Great Value) tastes almost identical to the one with more salt. | Mar 29 13:14 |
| techrights-news | "Some time ago, I mentioned my plans to write a review for the Librem 5. I still have that planned, but I did want to talk about one specific aspect of it now: usage flexibility." gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-03-28-librem-5-flexibility.gmi | Mar 29 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mom always assumed when I made something out of spam it would be gross, and wouldn't eat it. | Mar 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:13] <bnchs> i used to eat sweetened condensed milk | Mar 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne loves that | Mar 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | with white pastries | Mar 29 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Now she eats it because some idiot on YouTube was talking about how they're preppers and have like 500 cans in their garage. :/ | Mar 29 13:15 |
| bnchs | it was straight from the can | Mar 29 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like grandma. | Mar 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's seweet like mad | Mar 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you do not dilute it | Mar 29 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Bulging oozing cans. | Mar 29 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | Puts them in her car and comes over. "Now there's nothing wrong with these!". | Mar 29 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it slows down the car | Mar 29 13:16 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR didnt dilute it | Mar 29 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | or wastes fuel | Mar 29 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | She dropped them off with mom and Gonad. | Mar 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Then when she left they dumped them in the trash. | Mar 29 13:17 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163104 | Mar 29 13:17 |
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| DaemonFC | It's dangerous to even open the can at that point. | Mar 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Just toss it. | Mar 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I told you Gonad broke his toe on some sugar that had hardened under Grandma's bed when they were over there helping her rearrange some things. | Mar 29 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | My brother found a can of Spaghetti-Os in grandma's garage that expired in the 1970s. | Mar 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is like elaine in seinfeld | Mar 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | try to eat it | Mar 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | see what happens | Mar 29 13:20 |
| bnchs | lol | Mar 29 13:20 |
| bnchs | it might be still good | Mar 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 29 13:20 |
| bnchs | what could possibly happen | Mar 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | like schrooooms | Mar 29 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1O9_RVik_Q | Mar 29 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F1O9_RVik_Q | Mar 29 13:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Down Perisocope XO Pascal bullies Buckman for a disorderly Galley - Invidious | Mar 29 13:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naVyR6KlkWI | Mar 29 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=naVyR6KlkWI | Mar 29 13:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Elaine eats the cake - Invidious | Mar 29 13:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | "I feel like I need a Tetanus shot just looking at it. The only thing holding it together are the bird droppings." Down Periscope.... :P | Mar 29 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of describing my car too. | Mar 29 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7A | Mar 29 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7A | Mar 29 13:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Reagan tells Soviet jokes - Invidious | Mar 29 13:36 | |
| DaemonFC | "There's a 10 year wait on an automobile in the Soviet Union and you have to put up a lot of money when you buy, and only one in seven families there owns one.". | Mar 29 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | That's how the United States is getting under Biden. | Mar 29 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty soon nobody will even be able to get to work because there will be no repair parts for their car and a new one has doubled in price. | Mar 29 13:37 |
| matey | <bnchs> what could possibly happen <- even if it didnt kill you, youd still be begging for death | Mar 29 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | "So a guy goes in to buy a car and puts down his money and the guy behind the counter says 'Okay, come back in ten years and get your car.'. So the guy asks, 'Morning or afternoon?'. The guy behind the counter says, 'It's ten years from now, so what difference does it make?', and the guy says, 'Well, the plumber's coming in the morning.'". | Mar 29 13:40 |
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| bnchs | https://files.catbox.moe/wi532d.png | Mar 29 13:40 |
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| bnchs | oh we use microsoft ads | Mar 29 13:42 |
| bnchs | but dont worry, microsoft doesnt collect and sell your data | Mar 29 13:42 |
| techrights-news | Reminder: DuckDuckGo is just Microsoft criminals... by proxy https://files.catbox.moe/wi532d.png more details in http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo | Mar 29 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights | Mar 29 13:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Gab is a Microaoft shill | Mar 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's Microsoft painting itself as privacy | Mar 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | while trash-talking Gulag | Mar 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am angered when I see FS browser defaulting to Microsof | Mar 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | even some distros | Mar 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if DDG is "good" | Mar 29 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | because... Microsoft | Mar 29 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | people choose gnu/linux to get AWAY from Microsoft | Mar 29 13:44 |
| bnchs | i never realized ddg was hosted on microsoft azure | Mar 29 13:45 |
| bnchs | and used microsoft's ad network | Mar 29 13:45 |
| bnchs | and used microsoft bing | Mar 29 13:45 |
| bnchs | too good to be true | Mar 29 13:45 |
| matey | people choose gnu/linux to get AWAY from Microsoft <- not anymore | Mar 29 13:49 |
| matey | it would be nice if you could get away from microsoft with the choice of gnu/linux | Mar 29 13:49 |
| matey | they are in your linux kernel (waiting to add rust too) | Mar 29 13:50 |
| matey | and theyre in gnu | Mar 29 13:50 |
| matey | and theyre in the applications | Mar 29 13:50 |
| matey | why not get into your search results? | Mar 29 13:50 |
| matey | but roy is funny, he says they dont have a way to make money. i didnt know he was a libertarian "trust the invisible hand!" | Mar 29 13:51 |
| bnchs | rust is too unstable | Mar 29 13:51 |
| matey | the invisible hand sure gives us the visible finger a lot. | Mar 29 13:51 |
| matey | <bnchs> rust is too unstable <- that of course is why they want it there | Mar 29 13:52 |
| bnchs | you dont see windows kernel written in rust | Mar 29 13:52 |
| bnchs | in fact maidadans says linux is bad because memory unsafe language | Mar 29 13:52 |
| bnchs | but he doesnt say the same thing about windows NT | Mar 29 13:52 |
| bnchs | which is written in C | Mar 29 13:52 |
| matey | the windows kernel is unstable enough, its only held together with the bird droppings from daemonfcs can of spaghettios from the 1970s | Mar 29 13:53 |
| matey | <bnchs> in fact maidadans says linux is bad because memory unsafe language <- sounds like hes in a cult | Mar 29 13:53 |
| matey | "dont look at programs written in c, theyll make your palms hairy and give you cancer!" | Mar 29 13:53 |
| matey | <bnchs> which is written in <- i would have thought nt was written in c++, but i wouldnt be surprised if it was both | Mar 29 13:54 |
| bnchs | no | Mar 29 13:55 |
| bnchs | i think the kernel is written in C | Mar 29 13:55 |
| bnchs | and most of the other crap in c++ | Mar 29 13:55 |
| matey | spaghettiOS | Mar 29 13:55 |
| matey | now with rust kernel | Mar 29 13:55 |
| matey | they really should rename windows spaghettiOS | Mar 29 13:56 |
| matey | like they call internet exploiter "edge" now | Mar 29 13:56 |
| bnchs | he encourages the use of windows | Mar 29 13:56 |
| bnchs | even though its written in a memory unsafe language | Mar 29 13:57 |
| matey | <bnchs> he encourages the use of windows <- hes probably an idiot | Mar 29 13:57 |
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| matey | "Windows NT is written in C and C++, with a very small amount written in assembly language. C is mostly used for the kernel code while C++ is mostly used for user-mode code." | Mar 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they reject their own frameworks | Mar 29 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | as usual | Mar 29 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft: use c# | Mar 29 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike us | Mar 29 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | c# is good, honest! | Mar 29 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | just not for this... or that... or this | Mar 29 14:09 |
| matey | its good for a laugh | Mar 29 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's aother fad | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | #c | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | hastags | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | c# | Mar 29 14:10 |
| matey | #C# | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media will be like mysapce in 5-10 years | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes most people stopped bothering with | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new usenet | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | *something | Mar 29 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | now those platforms "borrow time" from celebs | Mar 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and politicanns and atheletes | Mar 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | amplifying them | Mar 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | to make it seem like those platfforms are still very biug | Mar 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | by concentrating all the active users in very few place | Mar 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | football clubs, combative politics, sex... | Mar 29 14:11 |
| matey | puppylinux.com was a ddos attack | Mar 29 14:15 |
| matey | "the host" shut it down to respond to the attack | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so microsoft shut the account down? | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | hahaha | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | well done, microsoft | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | we handled the ddos | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no domain | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no issues | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | see? solved. | Mar 29 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: my tumour is gone | Mar 29 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I removed the leg | Mar 29 14:16 |
| matey | "shoot the hostage, take them out of the equation"-- keanu reaves, speed | Mar 29 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, they shut down the domain without consulting the owner | Mar 29 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | beausee, you knoiw | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft has no resources | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | like staff that contacts people | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or servers | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or firewalls | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's cheaper | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | chop off the whole leg | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | to spite the toe | Mar 29 14:17 |
| matey | "The host suspended puppylinux.com without any notification or explanation. If that seems a bit rude, yes, it is. A decent host provider should give an explanation." -- barry | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft loves linux... OFFLINE | Mar 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the first host we had | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | as boycottnovell.com | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | ssupended [sic] the account | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but told us first | Mar 29 14:18 |
| matey | erik (who maintains the forum) later told barry about the reply he got to the support ticket "We have a serious problem of DDOS attack. I noticed this but hoped it wasn't so. The host shut us down and I am fighting to get us back up " | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to ddos | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was shared hosting | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not microsoft | Mar 29 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they had limited resources | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "the host" | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the nameless host | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | imho, they are shy to name it | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | even barry | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | as people might respond | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "wait, WHAT?" | Mar 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | download puppy from microsoft | Mar 29 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | another microsoft distro? | Mar 29 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | one it had running by unpaid volunteers? | Mar 29 14:20 |
| techrights-news | KDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS Released with More Plasma Wayland Improvements, Other Fixes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163105 | Mar 29 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS Released with More Plasma Wayland Improvements, Other Fixes | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:21 | |
| matey | i think most people that still use puppy have accepted where it comes from | Mar 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the same place "protestware" comes from | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | same company | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | new name for malware | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | "protestware" | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | sent to you by microsoft | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but blame "open source" | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | tells us microsoft- and gates-funded media | Mar 29 14:23 |
| matey | they proably see microsoft as the victim in that instance | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | INCLUDING SJVN | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | SJ f'ing N | Mar 29 14:23 |
| matey | being forced to host malware against their will! | Mar 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not checking what it sends | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's expensive | Mar 29 14:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it means checking what you ship | Mar 29 14:24 |
| matey | what sucks the most is | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | like wordpress used to do and probably still does | Mar 29 14:24 |
| matey | theres no longer a group of people that knows better | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media is a circus | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | a circus with clown | Mar 29 14:24 |
| matey | theres no longer a haven from this madness | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | where smart means drones | Mar 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | fbi has issues a report about russian protestware | Mar 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's protesting against the US power grid | Mar 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can delete files and stuff | Mar 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | to protest | Mar 29 14:25 |
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| schestowitz-TR | FBI ordered pizza for the protesters in moscow | Mar 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | US and Israel wrote protestware Stucnet | Mar 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they muck about with nuclear weapons | Mar 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a form of protest | Mar 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | hospitals in the UK were protested against | Mar 29 14:27 |
| matey | israel protests palestinian homes with bulldozers | Mar 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | with shadow broker tools | Mar 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | some east asian protested against british hospital treating ill patients | Mar 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: putin is protesting against natoi | Mar 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | by shelling schools | Mar 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | one person's terrorist is another person freedom protester | Mar 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | 18 terrorists protested US occupation in the middle east | Mar 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they protested with planes | Mar 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | snakes on a plane | Mar 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | with box cutters | Mar 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | hitler "protested" against the bolsheviks | Mar 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | brandon was a well-meaning porotesters | Mar 29 14:29 |
| matey | stalin protested against them too | Mar 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | he deleted millions of files | Mar 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they were of ordinary russians | Mar 29 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | "good one, brandon, LOL" | Mar 29 14:30 |
| matey | is windows protestware? | Mar 29 14:30 |
| matey | theyre protesting the fact that competitors exist | Mar 29 14:30 |
| techrights-news | ICBM pushing complexity drugs again https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/3-reasons-containers-essential-midsize-organizations | Mar 29 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Kubernetes: 3 reasons containers are becoming essential for midsize organizations | The Enterprisers Project | Mar 29 14:31 | |
| matey | by screwing up the computers of ordinary users | Mar 29 14:31 |
| matey | "i ran a scan of my computer and found out someone had installed windows on it" | Mar 29 14:31 |
| matey | "probably the russians" | Mar 29 14:31 |
| techrights-news | ICBM perpetuating the "worker shortage MYTH": "You probably already know some of the top challenges that IT leaders will face in 2022 – finding (and retaining) top talent, keeping up with security challenges, and managing remote teams." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/it-leadership-4-ways-tackle-your-flaws | Mar 29 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT leadership: 4 ways to tackle your flaws | The Enterprisers Project | Mar 29 14:32 | |
| matey | but yeah, as far as trusting microsoft goes | Mar 29 14:32 |
| matey | pretty much everyone does now | Mar 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to download anti-protest software | Mar 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I herad microsoft ships lots of "protests" | Mar 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | through shithub and npm | Mar 29 14:33 |
| matey | protesthub | Mar 29 14:33 |
| matey | /me thinks protesthub protests too much | Mar 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like a video site | Mar 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | with "rich people" | Mar 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | rick (allen jones) people | Mar 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | rick has a big stash | Mar 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | no need for gmail, he can start a hosting company with bill and jeff | Mar 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and other rich people | Mar 29 14:34 |
| matey | call it bing, inc | Mar 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah yes | Mar 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has competiton already | Mar 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-microsofts-bing-serves-up-recommends-child-porn | Mar 29 14:36 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pcmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-microsofts-bing-serves-up-recommends-child-porn | Mar 29 14:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Microsoft's Bing Serves Up, Recommends Child Porn | PCMag | Mar 29 14:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/10/unsafe-search/ https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-bing-child-porn-problem-report-2019-1 | Mar 29 14:36 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/10/unsafe-search/ | Mar 29 14:36 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-bing-child-porn-problem-report-2019-1 | Mar 29 14:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Bing not only shows child sexual abuse, it suggests it – TechCrunch | Mar 29 14:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft's Bing Had a Child Porn Problem: Report | Mar 29 14:36 | |
| matey | "customers who viewed this also liked..." | Mar 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | life imitates art - billg | Mar 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.cnet.com/news/microsofts-bing-search-engine-served-up-child-porn-report-says/ | Mar 29 14:37 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnet.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/news/microsofts-bing-search-engine-served-up-child-porn-report-says/ | Mar 29 14:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft's Bing search engine served up child porn, report says - CNET | Mar 29 14:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-refuses-to-answer-key-questions-about-child-p-1831655413 | Mar 29 14:37 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-refuses-to-answer-key-questions-about-child-p-1831655413 | Mar 29 14:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Microsoft Refuses to Answer Key Questions About Child Porn in Bing's Search Results | Mar 29 14:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/01/12/linspyware/ | Mar 29 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linspire ‘Reborn’ is Still Working for Microsoft and Facilitating Surveillance on GNU/Linux Users | Techrights | Mar 29 14:38 | |
| matey | another gnu project admin that still trusts microsoft in 2022 https://github.com/agordon | Mar 29 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agordon (A. Gordon) · GitHub | Mar 29 14:39 | |
| matey | im telling you, gnu developers dont care. | Mar 29 14:39 |
| matey | thats one of the admins of gnu sed | Mar 29 14:40 |
| matey | you know, the "linux command" | Mar 29 14:40 |
| matey | the other is jim meyering | Mar 29 14:40 |
| matey | to be fair, assaf cares a LITTLE | Mar 29 14:40 |
| matey | his mirrors of sed and datamash are readonly. | Mar 29 14:40 |
| matey | but thats not all hes using github for | Mar 29 14:41 |
| techrights-news | "This article covers the highlights of the C++ standardization proposals before the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) committee's Core and Evolution Working Groups last year. Read on to find out what's coming in C++23." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/c-standardization-core-language-progress-2021 | Mar 29 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | C++ standardization (core language) progress in 2021 | Red Hat Developer | Mar 29 14:41 | |
| matey | everyone works for microsoft | Mar 29 14:41 |
| matey | everyone trusts microsoft | Mar 29 14:41 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zgs4ztse2w | Mar 29 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3Zgs4ztse2w | Mar 29 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Tabby cat missed me so much, she was so happy to see me again - Invidious | Mar 29 14:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Rate limiting is a popular technique to protect services from excessive demand. For example, you can use this strategy to limit how often a user can enter or reset their password." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/develop-basic-rate-limiter-quarkus-and-redis | Mar 29 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Develop a basic rate limiter with Quarkus and Redis | Red Hat Developer | Mar 29 14:41 | |
| matey | 118 contributions in the past year. 95 repositories | Mar 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft loves children | Mar 29 14:42 |
| matey | self-destruction reigns in the free software movement | Mar 29 14:42 |
| psydruid | Microsoft is trust | Mar 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | everybody loves raymond | Mar 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: also secure | Mar 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | like secure boot | Mar 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | if NSA says it's OK to boot, then boot | Mar 29 14:43 |
| matey | unless theres a ddos | Mar 29 14:43 |
| matey | then shut it down | Mar 29 14:43 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Install Angular Js on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163106 | Mar 29 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Angular Js on Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:43 | |
| matey | i wonder what happens (i have no such ambitions) if you ddos a github project | Mar 29 14:43 |
| matey | do they suspend it too? | Mar 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | shutting it down solves the issue | Mar 29 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | the customer ceases to exist | Mar 29 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "off the books' | Mar 29 14:44 |
| matey | slitaz moved to github to get away from a ddos lasting months | Mar 29 14:44 |
| matey | they finally left (github) again, but thats incredibly rare | Mar 29 14:44 |
| matey | moving there then away | Mar 29 14:44 |
| psydruid | the hardware world needs to go through the same change the software world went through | Mar 29 14:44 |
| matey | psydruid: yes | Mar 29 14:45 |
| psydruid | just don't expect the incumbent behemoths to simply accept this | Mar 29 14:45 |
| matey | of course not | Mar 29 14:45 |
| techrights-news | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107 | Mar 29 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:45 | |
| matey | what we are seeing now is just how much capitalism hates people trying to become even a little autonomous | Mar 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not like capitalism is a person | Mar 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a company | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a framework | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | system with actors | Mar 29 14:47 |
| matey | no, capitalism isnt a person-- its a whole bunch of rich and powerful arseholes. | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they're creating certain conditions | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | like conditioning people to have kids | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | that produces more consumers | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | otherwise you have a japan | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | or singapoure/korea | Mar 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | where you have to really push hard to get people to replicate | Mar 29 14:47 |
| matey | thats funny | Mar 29 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | oversupply of people also lowers salaries | Mar 29 14:48 |
| matey | in most places all you have to do to push to get someone to replicate is... well... | Mar 29 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | keep enough of them unemployed | Mar 29 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they'd work for anything | Mar 29 14:48 |
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| matey | so something like half (maybe less than half) of the gnu project admins work for microsoft | Mar 29 14:50 |
| matey | but theyre still not keen on moving the gnu project there | Mar 29 14:51 |
| matey | most of them at least | Mar 29 14:51 |
| matey | but if its not gnu, fuck it, sure, use github, why not | Mar 29 14:51 |
| matey | somehow they get that its bad to put gnu there-- but not that its bad for anything else | Mar 29 14:51 |
| matey | theyve compartmentalised it | Mar 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | bribery is inclusive of diversity and inclusion | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | we must be inclusive of microsoft | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | CoC is compatible with crimes | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and corruption | Mar 29 14:52 |
| matey | its not a bribe, its a contribution to free software | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | just be polite and professional about it | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and don't murder the wife like hans reiser did | Mar 29 14:52 |
| matey | the fact that it puts free software in a worse position is just an unfortunate side effect | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | there MIGHT be something in the CoC | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | about murdering the wife | Mar 29 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | MIGHT | Mar 29 14:52 |
| matey | completely unanticipated | Mar 29 14:52 |
| matey | there was always an unwritten coc about murdering your wife | Mar 29 14:53 |
| matey | most people have no problem with that rule | Mar 29 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | what abpit bribery? | Mar 29 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | would microsoft object to such a coc? | Mar 29 14:53 |
| matey | if you murder your wife, people tend to lose interest in your filesystem and find an alternative | Mar 29 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | would it... BRIBE... to undermine such coc proposal? | Mar 29 14:54 |
| matey | its not a hard rule, but its what typically happens | Mar 29 14:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | because that would mean all microsoft employees get banned from ALL major projects | Mar 29 14:54 |
| matey | because that would mean all microsoft employees get banned from ALL major projects <- to dare to dream | Mar 29 14:54 |
| matey | scientology is a cult-- the only country i know of that recognises this formally is germany | Mar 29 14:55 |
| matey | microsoft is also a cult-- the fsf does not even recognise it as such | Mar 29 14:55 |
| matey | i think its a bit dangerous for entire countries to decide what is and isnt a cult | Mar 29 14:56 |
| matey | but i also think its a bit dangerous for the fsf to not recognise what theyre dealing with | Mar 29 14:56 |
| matey | and by a bit dangerous i mean it will be their undoing (if it hasnt already) | Mar 29 14:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁█▅▁▁▁▁▅▆▃▂▂▃▂█▂▂▃▃▁▂▁▃▃▄▃▄█▂▅▃▄▄▅▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 63.25 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▄▁▁▁▂▂▅▂▂▁█▂▁▁▁▁███▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 72.63▕ swarm size (avg): 212.36 ⟲ | Mar 29 14:59 |
| matey | kuhn may or may not realise it but hes going to push for a code of ethics in software projects | Mar 29 14:59 |
| matey | so instead of corporations just imposing their cultural norms onto free software | Mar 29 14:59 |
| matey | theyll be imposing their "ethical standards" too | Mar 29 14:59 |
| matey | the only truly free software left will be whatever runs the fuck away from this shit | Mar 29 15:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Has Some Solid Plans, But Preparations Are Underway | Techrights | Mar 29 15:00 | |
| matey | and the gnu project will be hard-pressed to accept a code of ethics | Mar 29 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnu rejected coc | Mar 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it did the kind comms thing | Mar 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but never a coc | Mar 29 15:01 |
| matey | yes and went with coc lite | Mar 29 15:01 |
| matey | which wasnt entirely stupid | Mar 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms wasn't senile at the time | Mar 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he pushed back | Mar 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of stuff in stallman.org likely violates a template coc | Mar 29 15:02 |
| matey | im trying to think of what they might call the ethical equivalent of the kind guidelines | Mar 29 15:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rms wants to still protects free speech | Mar 29 15:02 |
| matey | but then again, the board already has a code of ethics, so :) | Mar 29 15:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if you're a raving hater like esr | Mar 29 15:02 |
| matey | theyve already capitulated | Mar 29 15:02 |
| matey | oh, your position on esr is one i wish i understood | Mar 29 15:02 |
| matey | i have no idea what it is | Mar 29 15:02 |
| matey | a raving hater of whom? | Mar 29 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | leftists | Mar 29 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | esr has every right to speak | Mar 29 15:03 |
| matey | sure | Mar 29 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not encourage violence | Mar 29 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I don't have to agree or respect what he says | Mar 29 15:03 |
| matey | of course | Mar 29 15:03 |
| matey | you have as much right to disagree as he does to speak | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people think esr should be deploatformed | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | one of them gets over $3,000,000 | Mar 29 15:04 |
| matey | deplatformed from what? | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lives in Bay Area | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | sipping latte with a decade of two she has left to live | Mar 29 15:04 |
| matey | is he a youtuber? facebooker? githubber? | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | sociopaths on their high thrones | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | talking down people whose difficulties they fail to grasp | Mar 29 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, esr is in a bad place financially, which is connected to his health | Mar 29 15:05 |
| matey | i never see the esr these people talk about-- probably because i pay no attention to esr | Mar 29 15:05 |
| matey | sure so he will be deplatformed by obesity i guess | Mar 29 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | morbid | Mar 29 15:05 |
| matey | hes craig mundies worst nightmare though | Mar 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Mar 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | h met him once | Mar 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | for 10 seconds | Mar 29 15:06 |
| matey | /me tsks | Mar 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | in side the lift | Mar 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | us: elevator | Mar 29 15:06 |
| matey | yep | Mar 29 15:06 |
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| matey | i always think of that quote | Mar 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | where is craug now? | Mar 29 15:07 |
| matey | when i think of what open source has become | Mar 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | still delivering anti-gpl talks in unis? | Mar 29 15:07 |
| matey | where is craug now? <- at a guess, doing better than esr | Mar 29 15:07 |
| matey | maybe working or github, who knows | Mar 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | meeting rich people | Mar 29 15:07 |
| matey | raig James Mundie is Senior Advisor to the CEO at Microsoft and its former Chief Research and Strategy Officer. More at "Wikipedia" | Mar 29 15:07 |
| matey | not was, is | Mar 29 15:07 |
| matey | id rather that esr was right of course | Mar 29 15:08 |
| matey | that he WAS microsofts "worst nightmare" | Mar 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he is still involved in the crime | Mar 29 15:08 |
| matey | only thats not what happened | Mar 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | said perenes | Mar 29 15:08 |
| matey | osi became a battering ram FOR microsoft, not OF it | Mar 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | "but that's what actually happened!!" | Mar 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | revolution OS | Mar 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | perens is mostly bald now | Mar 29 15:08 |
| matey | perens was fucking adorable in that film | Mar 29 15:08 |
| matey | he was such a loveable dork | Mar 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | turtleneck bruce | Mar 29 15:09 |
| matey | i wonder if debian made him cynical | Mar 29 15:09 |
| matey | im not saying he abandoned his values or anything | Mar 29 15:09 |
| matey | bruce is a fucking mystery | Mar 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's like rob madla | Mar 29 15:09 |
| matey | dont know him | Mar 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | was very high profile at one point | Mar 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | now shows up once iun a few years, does a pony trick, disappears again | Mar 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | *malda | Mar 29 15:10 |
| matey | While Rob—don't call him Robert—Malda may fit the irreverent hacker stereotype, his finest hack does not. Malda is founder of Holland, MI-based Slashdot | Mar 29 15:10 |
| matey | oh, sorry rob | Mar 29 15:11 |
| matey | i think slashdot was microsofts worst nightmare too | Mar 29 15:11 |
| matey | was | Mar 29 15:11 |
| matey | apparently their worst nightmare is to have someone attack them and then come out on top stronger than ever before | Mar 29 15:12 |
| matey | of course when i say "stronger than ever before" i am exaggerating a little | Mar 29 15:12 |
| matey | with any luck its more like an enormous jenga tower reaching into the stratosphere | Mar 29 15:12 |
| matey | impressive and foreboding but all the more unstable for it | Mar 29 15:13 |
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| matey | but still you see people propping it up-- what are you crazy? | Mar 29 15:13 |
| matey | half the gnu admins perhaps | Mar 29 15:13 |
| matey | havent got a better idea! | Mar 29 15:13 |
| matey | its the only repo on the internet! | Mar 29 15:13 |
| matey | "you wouldnt use savannah?" "fuck no, i already have to use that shit for gnu" | Mar 29 15:14 |
| matey | you may think im dissing savannah-- i would definitely choose it if github was the only other choise | Mar 29 15:14 |
| matey | but theres a lot of hate for it, and pretending there isnt wont help solve the mystery | Mar 29 15:14 |
| matey | if nothing else it means you dont have to use github | Mar 29 15:15 |
| MinceR | (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/818715.mp4 | Mar 29 15:15 |
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| matey | oh, rob malda | Mar 29 15:15 |
| matey | you should have said cmdrtaco, thats a name i know | Mar 29 15:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 15:16 |
| matey | wasnt he in half-revolution os? | Mar 29 15:16 |
| matey | and of course: https://github.com/CmdrTaco | Mar 29 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CmdrTaco (Rob Malda) · GitHub | Mar 29 15:17 | |
| schestowitz-TR | eww | Mar 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but which year? | Mar 29 15:18 |
| matey | hey only one repo | Mar 29 15:18 |
| matey | thats what im checking now | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | /. was enemy of microsoft | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the criminals took over it | Mar 29 15:18 |
| matey | he just joined this year | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | then used it to promote the famous criminals | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many regulars fled | Mar 29 15:18 |
| matey | could it be fake? one repo, january 2022 | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Mar 29 15:18 |
| matey | SURELY hes heard about the purchase by now | Mar 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | fake maybe | Mar 29 15:19 |
| matey | see when i find a repo like this, i ignore it | Mar 29 15:19 |
| matey | its not compelling. | Mar 29 15:19 |
| matey | its not "oh this person uses github" | Mar 29 15:19 |
| matey | its nothing. i dont LIKE it, but its not "significant" | Mar 29 15:19 |
| matey | i avoid counting non-data like this. | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe kathleen is trolling him | Mar 29 15:19 |
| matey | heh | Mar 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "one more time and I'll create an account with your name in Microsoft Shit" | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "and the time after that I add a repo" | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (still better than throwing dishes) | Mar 29 15:20 |
| matey | "WaPo Labs" <- i didnt think he was still at wapo | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "that escalates quickly | Mar 29 15:20 |
| matey | oh, BEZOS! | Mar 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (Kathleen uploads Craig Mundie nudes into rob's fake account) | Mar 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Mar 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | short stint | Mar 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, it was around the bezos time | Mar 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | or just before | Mar 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think shortly after | Mar 29 15:21 |
| matey | so this is one of the weirdest things ive seen on github | Mar 29 15:21 |
| matey | its in maldas name | Mar 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lasted almost no time... just discredited him | Mar 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the thing he 'created'... and failed at | Mar 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | torvalds did linux and git | Mar 29 15:22 |
| matey | one repo, updated this year | Mar 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms did gnu, fsf and lots more | Mar 29 15:22 |
| matey | 700 commits | Mar 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | his name or nickname? | Mar 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a whole cult-like following associated with it | Mar 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | "slashdot subculture" | Mar 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | with its own famous jokes | Mar 29 15:23 |
| matey | rob "cmdrtaco" malda | Mar 29 15:23 |
| matey | so both | Mar 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | like rocky | Mar 29 15:23 |
| matey | "wapo labs" | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe it's him | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | in zrizona? | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | *az | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | nevada? | Mar 29 15:24 |
| matey | not one pr so we cant date it unless we assume it started on gh, didnt move there | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | he spoke to me in twitter | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was busy killing time with video games | Mar 29 15:24 |
| matey | ive seen gh issues dating back to the 90s, github didnt exist then | Mar 29 15:24 |
| matey | so gh issues cant be used to date anything | Mar 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it's a mirror | Mar 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like he has it going locally | Mar 29 15:25 |
| matey | it doesnt look like a mirror, its got 700 commits (which of course wouldnt prove its not a mirror) | Mar 29 15:25 |
| matey | i think he put it up while at wapo | Mar 29 15:25 |
| matey | but its still being updated | Mar 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot#Culture | Mar 29 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Slashdot - Wikipedia | Mar 29 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | "As an online community with primarily user-generated content, many in-jokes and internet memes have developed over the course of the site's history. A popular meme (based on an unscientific Slashdot user poll[66]) is, "In Soviet Russia, noun verb you!"[67] This type of joke has its roots in the 1960s or earlier, and is known as a "Russian reversal". Other popular memes usually pertain to computing or technology, such as "Imagine a Beowulf cluster | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | of these",[68] "But does it run Linux?",[69] or "Netcraft now confirms: BSD (or some other software package or item) is dying."[70] Users will also typically refer to articles referring to data storage and data capacity by inquiring how much it is in units of Libraries of Congress.[71] Sometimes bandwidth speeds are referred to in units of Libraries of Congress per second. When numbers are quoted, people will comment that the number happens to be | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | the "combination to their luggage" (a reference to the Mel Brooks film Spaceballs) and express false anger at the person who revealed it." | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | " (Redirected from Slashdot subculture)" | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | I think it used to be its own article | Mar 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | many moons ago | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bates_(technologist) | Mar 29 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jeff Bates (technologist) - Wikipedia | Mar 29 15:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Jeff Bates, also known as hemos, is the co-founder of Slashdot[1] along with Rob Malda ("CmdrTaco"). Bates graduated from Holland Christian High School in 1994[2] and received a Bachelor's degree in History and Biology from Hope College[3] in 1998." | Mar 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | "In August 2011, Bates joined Google.[8] He worked at Google as Chief of Staff for the CIO, and as of 2019, is the Chief of Product Operations." | Mar 29 15:27 |
| matey | so you can click "older" 100 times but theres no way to say "oldest" | Mar 29 15:28 |
| matey | so you cant even go to the first page as far as i can tell | Mar 29 15:28 |
| matey | really brilliant design | Mar 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | "Occasionally, a story will link to a server causing a large surge of traffic, which can overwhelm some smaller or independent sites. This phenomenon is known as the Slashdot effect." | Mar 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | I got the slashdot effect many times | Mar 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | but mostly in the years after its peak | Mar 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | it tapered off already circa 2005 | Mar 29 15:28 |
| matey | they could have called it slashdos | Mar 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | https://www.wired.com/1999/06/cmdrtaco-on-slashdot-sale/ | Mar 29 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CmdrTaco on Slashdot Sale | WIRED | Mar 29 15:29 | |
| schestowitz | "The co-founder and lead geek at Slashdot.org talks about selling the business to Andover.net. But he's reluctant to say exactly how much the sale brought in." | Mar 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Now Logan runs it | Mar 29 15:29 |
| matey | after=faedeb1ef6397e9b26d83aa229193d3c37ab0c7e+104 <- this takes me back to 16-bit computing | Mar 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Logan's run | Mar 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | it's going nowhere | Mar 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Logan was here in IRC a few times | Mar 29 15:30 |
| schestowitz | tried to convince us /. would get better | Mar 29 15:30 |
| schestowitz | he also controls sourceforge | Mar 29 15:30 |
| matey | nearly all commits (recent, back to 2021 and before) are from | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | @grzegorz914 | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | grzegorz914 | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | who wrote what it was forked from | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | this is starting to look really fake | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | hes not still at wapo labs | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | it looks like he didnt do any work on this in 2021 | Mar 29 15:31 |
| matey | it makes no sense really, unless its fake | Mar 29 15:32 |
| matey | maybe an inside joke | Mar 29 15:32 |
| matey | "hey i made you a github account" "oh, fuck you" | Mar 29 15:32 |
| matey | "it says wapo labs" "haha, arsehole" | Mar 29 15:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | hmm... predicted to snow here tomorrow | Mar 29 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | almost april | Mar 29 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | heavy snow | Mar 29 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | happens once in 10-20 years | Mar 29 15:40 |
| techrights-news | "PGConf.be 2022 will be held in Haasrode, Leuven, about 25km from Brussels. The conference will take place on May 19th, 2022. Registration is open." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconfbe-call-for-papers-registration-open-2429/ | Mar 29 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGConf.be : Call for Papers & Registration open | Mar 29 15:42 | |
| techrights-news | The issue here is Redis, which is BSD licensed, but this article tries to blame "Debian", "Ubuntu", and "Linux" https://www.scmagazine.com/brief/breach/redis-servers-under-attack | Mar 29 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Redis servers under attack | SC Media | Mar 29 15:44 | |
| techrights-news | "I’ve been using myrepos for a while - as someone who juggles a lot of repositories, both for personal projects and as a Fedora and CentOS packager, a ~/.mrconfig synced via Nextcloud really makes checking out repositories consistently, on different computers, straightforward." https://michel-slm.name/posts/2022-03-28-myrepos-utils/ | Mar 29 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michel-slm.name | Navigating repositories with myrepos-utils :: Pensées de Michel — Personal thoughts and musings | Mar 29 15:44 | |
| techrights-news | Intern left legacy of potty-mouthed source code - El Reg ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/who_me/ ䷉ Source: theregister | Mar 29 15:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Intern left legacy of potty-mouthed source code • The Register | Mar 29 15:47 | |
| techrights-news | 5 key insights for open source project sustainability in 2022 | Opensource.com <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://opensource.com/article/22/3/open-source-project-sustainability"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Mar 29 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 key insights for open source project sustainability in 2022 | Opensource.com | Mar 29 15:48 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora 36 Workstation Installation Guide / Gnome 42 Quick Tour and New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33224 | Mar 29 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines | Mar 29 16:03 | |
| techrights-news | Open Invention Network (OIN) is not a community, it is a corporate patent pool trying to pull the actual community into the cartel that 'normalises' software patents, distracting from actual solutions https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/29/2411593/0/en/Maersk-Joins-the-Open-Invention-Network-Community.html | Mar 29 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Maersk Joins the Open Invention Network Community | Mar 29 16:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard is a very promising upcoming point and click adventure game, with a Linux demo available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/beyond-the-edge-of-owlsgard-is-a-retro-point-and-click-adventure-worth-trying/ | Mar 29 16:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard is a retro point and click adventure worth trying | GamingOnLinux | Mar 29 16:08 | |
| techrights-news | More teasers for a big Valheim update have arrived | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/more-teasers-for-a-big-valheim-update-have-arrived/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Mar 29 16:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More teasers for a big Valheim update have arrived | GamingOnLinux | Mar 29 16:09 | |
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| techrights-news | March 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/03/29/march-2022-web-server-survey.html"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Mar 29 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | March 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News | Mar 29 16:11 | |
| techrights-news | "Microsoft saw declines in all metrics this month, losing 3.22 million sites (-7.13%), 156,000 domains (-1.75%), 118,000 active sites (-1.88%), and 7,620 computers (-0.57%). Microsoft also lost 1,000 sites from its share of the top million." https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/03/29/march-2022-web-server-survey.html | Mar 29 16:11 |
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| XRevan86 | https://thesun.co.uk/news/18082575 The Sun's reporters forgot to take their pills again. | Mar 29 16:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Blind mystic Baba Vanga who 'predicted 9/11' also claimed Putin will be 'lord of the world' in haunting prophecy | Mar 29 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] flexible-array transformations for 5.18-rc1 - Gustavo A. R. Silva ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220322184802.GA2533969@embeddedor/ ䷉ Source: embeddedor | linux | kernel | Mar 29 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] flexible-array transformations for 5.18-rc1 - Gustavo A. R. Silva | Mar 29 16:28 | |
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| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] sound updates for 5.18 - Takashi Iwai ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/s5hfsn8tyll.wl-tiwai@suse.de/ ䷉ Source: suse | linux | kernel | Mar 29 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] sound updates for 5.18 - Takashi Iwai | Mar 29 16:29 | |
| techrights-news | [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/2] drm/i915/ats-m: add ATS-M platform info ⚓ https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-March/294043.html ䷉ Source: intel | linux | Mar 29 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/2] drm/i915/ats-m: add ATS-M platform info | Mar 29 16:29 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: best to ignore the sun | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not good for the brain | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | until years ago the sun was known notf or murdoch | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for page 3 | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | you tur the front leaf | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there you have girls with their tits showing | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it was literally a wanker's 'news' paper | Mar 29 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | Even just this fact that they appeal (numerous times) to a (heavily debunked) "psychic" is more than enough. | Mar 29 16:32 |
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| techrights-news | "I am planning to add a few chapters on securing services in my Linux Command Line book. But, to make it practical & hands on, I needed one real application which the readers can deploy and secure." https://kushaldas.in/posts/introducing-very-bad-web-application.html | Mar 29 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Introducing Very Bad Web Application | Mar 29 16:38 | |
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| MinceR | (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/818334.mp4 | Mar 29 16:38 |
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| matey | "attacked by steel birds" thats pretty uncanny actually | Mar 29 16:51 |
| matey | since in 1989 no one had ever heard of airplanes (let alone of one being used to attack someone) | Mar 29 16:51 |
| matey | "steel birds! thats so incredible, wherever could such a creature come from? this woman must speak to the gods themselves!" | Mar 29 16:52 |
| techrights-news | Virtual Kubernetes clusters: A new model for multitenancy | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/3/virtual-kubernetes-clusters-new-model-multitenancy ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux | Mar 29 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virtual Kubernetes clusters: A new model for multitenancy | Opensource.com | Mar 29 16:54 | |
| matey | "how did you guys ever think up the idea of attacking people with PLANES? its so original""actually we got the idea from the crazy psychic lady. before that we were just going to tamper with some bottles of tylenol, but they put those damned seals on them so that was out" | Mar 29 16:54 |
| matey | headlines: psychic from sun news masterminded 9/11! | Mar 29 16:55 |
| matey | "we read that thing about 'steel birds' and just thought-- wow, why didnt WE think of that?" | Mar 29 16:56 |
| matey | meet the real world, its like "brave new world" except dumber | Mar 29 16:57 |
| techrights-news | Raphaël Hertzog: Join Freexian to help improve Debian https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/03/29/join-freexian-to-help-improve-debian/ | Mar 29 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raphaelhertzog.com | Join Freexian to help improve Debian | Mar 29 16:58 | |
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| schestowitz | it's not about 9/11 attacks | Mar 29 16:59 |
| schestowitz | these are straw man attacks | Mar 29 16:59 |
| matey | you didnt read the thing | Mar 29 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | matey: "Just say "birds of steel", the suckers keep falling for it" | Mar 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | to suppress any discussion about 9/11 | Mar 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | mention "9/11" and people go, "oh , here we go again..." | Mar 29 17:00 |
| matey | im all in favour of the 9/11 victims families having a real inquiry | Mar 29 17:00 |
| matey | theyre not going to get one, because the government doesnt give a shit about people who have less than billions of dollars | Mar 29 17:00 |
| matey | ever. | Mar 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | and saudi arabia put under probe | Mar 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | and maybe forced to issue billions in compensation | Mar 29 17:01 |
| matey | that would be poetic, but its not how allies get treated | Mar 29 17:01 |
| matey | on the other side of the world, these are called "acceptable losses" | Mar 29 17:01 |
| matey | on this side of the world, its called "thank you for your service" | Mar 29 17:02 |
| matey | its the same scam, just different marketing | Mar 29 17:02 |
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| techrights-news | "Today we’re going to design and laser cut some new Raspberry Pi cases from 3mm plywood using the Atomstack X7 40W." https://www.the-diy-life.com/making-laser-cut-raspberry-pi-cases-using-the-atomstack-x7-40w/ | Mar 29 17:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-diy-life.com | Making Laser Cut Raspberry Pi Cases Using The Atomstack X7 40W - The DIY Life | Mar 29 17:06 | |
| techrights-news | "In 2019, the German LibreOffice community sadly lost one of its most active members, Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn. [...] support a student through the Deutschlandstipendium initiative..." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/29/the-document-foundation-supports-the-deutschlandstipendium/ | Mar 29 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The Document Foundation supports the "Deutschlandstipendium" - The Document Foundation Blog | Mar 29 17:09 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Tablet: Best Options, Comparison, and Guide • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163109 | Mar 29 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Tablet: Best Options, Comparison, and Guide | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:09 | |
| matey | there are more people getting off of crack than leaving github | Mar 29 17:10 |
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| techrights-news | Finnix Linux Distro for Sysadmins Celebrates 22th Anniversary with New Release • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163110 | Mar 29 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Finnix Linux Distro for Sysadmins Celebrates 22th Anniversary with New Release | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:15 | |
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| matey | mike gerwitz, showing how its done https://github.com/mikegerwitz/i-do-not-use-github | Mar 29 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - mikegerwitz/i-do-not-use-github: I do not use GitHub for personal projects. More information here. | Mar 29 17:18 | |
| matey | thank you mike | Mar 29 17:19 |
| matey | "While you may see some commits of mine for projects related to my employer, I do not use GitHub for personal projects." | Mar 29 17:19 |
| matey | "Primarily because GitHub requires users to run non-free JavaScript to use all features of the website. Not only will I not do this, but I don't want to direct users to GitHub either, because doing so is asking them to run non-free software." | Mar 29 17:19 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/ | Mar 29 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | Techrights | Mar 29 17:19 | |
| matey | uh oh | Mar 29 17:20 |
| matey | well i wasnt done yet, but this is worth pausing for | Mar 29 17:20 |
| matey | i had one other funny thing to add | Mar 29 17:20 |
| techrights-news | Vulkan API 1.3.210 out with new extensions, new NVIDIA Beta Driver ready | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/vulkan-api-13210-out-with-new-extensions-new-nvidia-beta-driver-ready/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | Graphics | Linux | Games | Mar 29 17:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan API 1.3.210 out with new extensions, new NVIDIA Beta Driver ready | GamingOnLinux | Mar 29 17:21 | |
| matey | oh dear | Mar 29 17:21 |
| matey | well, ill have to watch that i guess | Mar 29 17:21 |
| matey | this needs to be added (same link as before) | Mar 29 17:21 |
| matey | "GitHub is under new ownership, so maybe there is hope to change that." ROFL | Mar 29 17:22 |
| techrights-news | LOL! "With a price starting at $1,999".... and wait till you see the POWER BILLS! https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-has-rolled-out/ | Mar 29 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 'BFGPU' has rolled out | GamingOnLinux | Mar 29 17:22 | |
| matey | yeah, microsoft purchased them, so maybe theyll solve the non-free js problem | Mar 29 17:22 |
| matey | seriously. | Mar 29 17:22 |
| matey | so you see its not just kuhn pushing this code of ethics thing | Mar 29 17:23 |
| matey | coc 2 is coming | Mar 29 17:23 |
| matey | um, that time it wasnt even intended. | Mar 29 17:23 |
| matey | it wasnt enough for corporations to push their social dynamics onto free software, they have to impose their "ethics" on us too | Mar 29 17:24 |
| matey | say goodbye to freedom 0. you wont get freedom 0 unless you fork. you wont fork, because theres no freedom 3. | Mar 29 17:24 |
| matey | free software will be back of course. like jesus. | Mar 29 17:24 |
| matey | maybe even before jesus. | Mar 29 17:24 |
| matey | /me IS definitely exaggerating slightly | Mar 29 17:25 |
| matey | its bad though. | Mar 29 17:25 |
| matey | the fsf is pushing kuhnism, like i said | Mar 29 17:25 |
| matey | and theyre using libreplanet, which is what i said they would do. | Mar 29 17:26 |
| matey | now to watch this old claptrap | Mar 29 17:26 |
| matey | fucking lieplanet | Mar 29 17:26 |
| techrights-news | We’re going to recognise the demise of the Web (along with social control media and bursting of the “clown” bubble) as we focus more on exposing corruption, resisting censorship, and moving videos away from the grip of pseudo-’free’ video hosting (no such thing) http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/techrights-preparations-underway/ | Mar 29 17:26 |
| matey | roy, the one time i think ive found a kindred spirit at the fsf, and you go and ruin it | Mar 29 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Has Some Solid Plans, But Preparations Are Underway | Techrights | Mar 29 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard, Valheim, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163111 | Mar 29 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard, Valheim, and More | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:26 | |
| matey | (this one, at least, you cant be blamed for) | Mar 29 17:26 |
| MinceR | 29 182408 < matey> it wasnt enough for corporations to push their social dynamics onto free software, they have to impose their "ethics" on us too | Mar 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | it's not really their ethics | Mar 29 17:27 |
| matey | indeed | Mar 29 17:27 |
| matey | its just they want to control ours | Mar 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | it's what their crybully troll army likes | Mar 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | and what they offend all the time, but not publicly | Mar 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | it's easier to point out that a free software project used a "bad word" in a comment when your own code is secret | Mar 29 17:28 |
| matey | if more people watched the office, they would already know what the fsf is going to do next | Mar 29 17:28 |
| matey | steel birds will attack our nuts! | Mar 29 17:28 |
| matey | and turn us into unix | Mar 29 17:28 |
| matey | <MinceR> it's easier to point out that a free software project used a "bad word" in a comment when your own code is secret 81580085! | Mar 29 17:29 |
| schestowitz | DAAAARK MODE https://windowsreport.com/best-windows-11-dark-theme/ | Mar 29 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | 5 best Windows 11 dark themes that are available for free | Mar 29 17:29 | |
| matey | B16B00B5 | Mar 29 17:29 |
| schestowitz | does that offend anyone? | Mar 29 17:29 |
| schestowitz | deny mode | Mar 29 17:29 |
| matey | deny horse | Mar 29 17:29 |
| matey | deny magic | Mar 29 17:30 |
| matey | denysploitation | Mar 29 17:30 |
| techrights-news | RFID music player delivers vintage charm | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/29/rfid-music-player-delivers-vintage-charm/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Mar 29 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | RFID music player delivers vintage charm | Arduino Blog | Mar 29 17:31 | |
| matey | deny beauty https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8u5NgC4lZ8s | Mar 29 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Black Beauty Theme (Galloping Home) - Denis King 1972 - Invidious | Mar 29 17:31 | |
| matey | oh, deny betty! blam balam | Mar 29 17:32 |
| techrights-news | LOL!!!! "National Science Agency (NSA)"... and those LF slackies in "FOSS" Life think NSA (NOT science) want security? https://www.fosslife.org/nsa-releases-kubernetes-hardening-guide | Mar 29 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | NSA Releases Kubernetes Hardening Guide | Mar 29 17:32 | |
| techrights-news | NSA wants to harden (actual) security like a rape victims wants the rapist hardened | Mar 29 17:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's a racist program called darktable | Mar 29 17:34 |
| MinceR | uh oh | Mar 29 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to change name | Mar 29 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I suggest "GLIMPSE" | Mar 29 17:34 |
| matey | the "ethics void" | Mar 29 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | since the GIMP fork is dead | Mar 29 17:34 |
| MinceR | what's the MICROS~1/ibm/deadrat-approved replacement for "dark"? | Mar 29 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | GLIMPSE is available for use | Mar 29 17:35 |
| matey | im telling you, these people all work for open source now | Mar 29 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the same but we changed the name and logo | Mar 29 17:35 |
| matey | this is old osi shit | Mar 29 17:35 |
| matey | they didnt fold-- they moved | Mar 29 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | Is pale moon OK? | Mar 29 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | Pale can be colour reference | Mar 29 17:35 |
| matey | the palemoon author is an idiot | Mar 29 17:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 17:35 |
| matey | oh you mean the name | Mar 29 17:35 |
| matey | allow moon | Mar 29 17:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "allow microphone access" | Mar 29 17:36 |
| matey | if a midget makes a misogynist comment, is it offensive to call that a "microaggression" | Mar 29 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | if a drone runs Windows... | Mar 29 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and has a minigun | Mar 29 17:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's miniaggression on a microaggresison | Mar 29 17:39 |
| matey | so the fsf has finally and officially been hijacked to be used for pure fucking idiocy | Mar 29 17:39 |
| matey | against itself | Mar 29 17:39 |
| techrights-news | ’Extension Manager’ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163112 | Mar 29 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ’Extension Manager’ GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | you mean mike? | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | but its not an occupation-- they prefer to call it a "conversion of faith" | Mar 29 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of his talk? | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | i mean mike and the board | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | no i havent watched the talk yet | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | im simply going on what i am in fact ABOUT to watch | Mar 29 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | mike iirc may have been the one blocking pocock from gnu.org | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | i make no effort to hide this fact | Mar 29 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that he could not evenemail rms | Mar 29 17:40 |
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| matey | oh cool, maybe hes the reason i cant email him either | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | but is that ethical? | Mar 29 17:40 |
| matey | or was he blocking people for ETHICAL reasons | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'\s not for you to decide | Mar 29 17:41 |
| matey | maybe he was trying to prevent unethical emails from getting through | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's for self-labelling ethical peopl | Mar 29 17:41 |
| matey | yes, it may be my freedom, its just not my decision | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | who use "SJW" as their own flair in Reddit | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | while working for a Gulag | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and bombing people | Mar 29 17:41 |
| matey | is gerwitz a googler? | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't know | Mar 29 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he maintains fsd | Mar 29 17:42 |
| matey | probably not then | Mar 29 17:42 |
| matey | i dont think he does | Mar 29 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he's ok | Mar 29 17:42 |
| matey | i can think of two fsd maintainers | Mar 29 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ime | Mar 29 17:42 |
| matey | but he's ok <- not from what youve said, no | Mar 29 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are people who do harm | Mar 29 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's hardly the issue | Mar 29 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's pro rms | Mar 29 17:42 |
| matey | then he sucks at it | Mar 29 17:42 |
| matey | hes not even on the pro rms list | Mar 29 17:43 |
| matey | probably wasnt ethical | Mar 29 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | you wrote some rude thinks to rms | Mar 29 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | *things | Mar 29 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | so on the balance of things he's more pro-RMS than you | Mar 29 17:43 |
| matey | your assessment of my interactions with rms is largely bullshit | Mar 29 17:43 |
| matey | you told a number of fabrications about rms | Mar 29 17:43 |
| matey | and threw me under the bus when it was convenient to do so | Mar 29 17:43 |
| matey | i dont give two tugs of a dead dogs cock what you think about me and rms. or me and oliva. | Mar 29 17:44 |
| matey | or me and tom. | Mar 29 17:44 |
| matey | i hope that much is clear. | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, fair point | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway, mike isn't the enemy | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I added his video/talk | Mar 29 17:44 |
| matey | no, hes just useless. | Mar 29 17:44 |
| matey | im glad you added the talk | Mar 29 17:44 |
| matey | people should see it. | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I looked at more than the gnu domain | Mar 29 17:44 |
| matey | im going to watch it | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some of the other things | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he would be a bad target because if we attack our own, nobody benefits | Mar 29 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you judged only thje titl;e | Mar 29 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | of the talk | Mar 29 17:45 |
| matey | hes not a target, hes just useless | Mar 29 17:45 |
| matey | well lets see what happened when i read kuhns article | Mar 29 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | he helps a lot in FSD | Mar 29 17:46 |
| matey | its hard to read that much bullshit at once | Mar 29 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | even at the hardest times | Mar 29 17:46 |
| matey | i dont think hes in charge of the fsd anymore | Mar 29 17:46 |
| matey | when i read kuhns article i took it in at a pace i could stand | Mar 29 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | he just writes monthly summaries | Mar 29 17:46 |
| matey | but i finally read the whole thing | Mar 29 17:46 |
| matey | he just writes monthly summaries <- i am aware | Mar 29 17:46 |
| matey | at first i thought kuhn was supporting ethical source licenses-- not at all | Mar 29 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | he also puts his name in the headlines | Mar 29 17:47 |
| matey | then i thought it was mostly benign EXCEPT for the obvious context | Mar 29 17:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I always found a tad strange | Mar 29 17:47 |
| matey | then i realised what he was doing | Mar 29 17:47 |
| matey | so three parts to the reaction-- initial, revised and conclusive | Mar 29 17:47 |
| matey | im sure it will be the same with the gerwitz talk | Mar 29 17:47 |
| schestowitz | just publsishged https://opensource.org/blog/simplify-open-source-license-compliance | Mar 29 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Simplify Open Source License Compliance | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source... | Mar 29 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | I've not read it yet | Mar 29 17:48 |
| schestowitz | " GitHub and GitLab are the most common places to publish code with distributed version control." | Mar 29 17:49 |
| schestowitz | citation needed | Mar 29 17:49 |
| techrights-news | How to quickly end the war in Ukraine with $10 laser pointers | I, Cringely ⚓ https://www.cringely.com/2022/03/29/how-to-quickly-end-the-war-in-ukraine-with-10-laser-pointers/ ䷉ Source: cringely | Mar 29 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to quickly end the war in Ukraine with $10 laser pointers | I, Cringely | Mar 29 17:51 | |
| matey | probably true though | Mar 29 17:53 |
| matey | also the two worst, nearly | Mar 29 17:53 |
| techrights-news | "internet-connected uninterruptable power supply (UPS)"????? WHY????? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/29/mitigating-attacks-against-uninterruptable-power-supply-devices | Mar 29 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitigating Attacks Against Uninterruptable Power Supply Devices | CISA | Mar 29 17:53 | |
| matey | i dont give people a hard time for using gitlab, it just sucks | Mar 29 17:53 |
| matey | they probably should look at a third option | Mar 29 17:53 |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi CM4 powered system available as SBC or mini-PC ⚓ https://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-cm4-powered-system-available-as-sbc-or-mini-pc/ ䷉ Source: LinuxGizmos | Hardware | Devices | GNU | Linux | Mar 29 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-cm4-powered-system-available-as-sbc-or-mini-pc/ ) | Mar 29 17:54 | |
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| techrights-news | "This photograph of Tesla, produced for The Century Magazine, shows the inventor seated beneath his giant “magnifying transmitter”, arcing 22-foot-long bolts of electricity." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/nikola-tesla-in-his-laboratory/ | Mar 29 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Earthen Messages: Nikola Tesla in his Laboratory (ca. 1899) – The Public Domain Review | Mar 29 17:55 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | matey: we made out own in gemtext | Mar 29 17:55 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it's less than 100 lines of code | Mar 29 17:55 |
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| matey | yes its funny how you can just put code online without high-granularity version control | Mar 29 18:01 |
| matey | a number of gnu projects still do that-- bug report? feature request? patch? email it | Mar 29 18:01 |
| matey | later it will show up in a tarball. | Mar 29 18:01 |
| matey | no git, no cvs, just tar.gz | Mar 29 18:02 |
| matey | im sure you woudlnt want to do a kernel that way | Mar 29 18:02 |
| matey | but im not a kernel author | Mar 29 18:03 |
| matey | /me is wasting 600mb of b/w on this troll | Mar 29 18:03 |
| matey | sure i have plenty more, its still a waste | Mar 29 18:03 |
| matey | doesnt look like i expected at all | Mar 29 18:04 |
| matey | oh christ hes pushing unity | Mar 29 18:05 |
| matey | he sounds like a friend i had at my wedding | Mar 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | unity3d? | Mar 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | aka uniuty? | Mar 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | or ubuntu's? | Mar 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne used unity for a few years | Mar 29 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not horrible | Mar 29 18:07 |
| matey | unity: forced marriage | Mar 29 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | at lkeast back then ubuntu was not fedora clone | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also had upstart iirc | Mar 29 18:08 |
| matey | it's not horrible <- mono? | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | same time | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you mean unity the game dev fw | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | unity3d was one of the very few mono "success stories" | Mar 29 18:09 |
| matey | i know for a fact that the game platform is mono | Mar 29 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and team mono crumbled | Mar 29 18:09 |
| matey | im talking about unity desktop, i assumed you were | Mar 29 18:10 |
| matey | this was at a time ubuntu was pushing mono-- you wrote articles complaining about it | Mar 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | unity however was not mono | Mar 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't waste time bashing unity their 'de'e | Mar 29 18:10 |
| matey | ok, i wasnt sure | Mar 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | mostly a panel thing | Mar 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | after they hired the beryl/compiz devs | Mar 29 18:10 |
| matey | and the addon that spied on users | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | or dev | Mar 29 18:11 |
| matey | which shuttleworth was shameless about | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | scope | Mar 29 18:11 |
| matey | spineless too | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | that came later | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2012 ish | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | or 2013 | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | snowden leaks | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | micah lee complained | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | after he had put glenn greenwalk on ubuntu | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and saught to secure the snowden trove of leaks | Mar 29 18:12 |
| matey | C++, JavaScript, QML | Mar 29 18:12 |
| matey | 2.0–7.4: C, C++, Python, Vala[3] | Mar 29 18:12 |
| matey | 8: C++ and QML | Mar 29 18:12 |
| matey | no mono | Mar 29 18:12 |
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| matey | gerwitz is resently talking about a lot of irrelevant things that are going to be used to tank free software development for years | Mar 29 18:13 |
| matey | presently ^ | Mar 29 18:13 |
| matey | kuhn and industry ask for stupid-- gerwitz finds legitimate reasons to give them everything on their wishlist | Mar 29 18:14 |
| matey | i think gerwitz is a sucker | Mar 29 18:14 |
| matey | seems well-intended | Mar 29 18:14 |
| matey | hes actually approaching this in a stallman-like way | Mar 29 18:15 |
| matey | pedantic, thorough, completely oblivious to the context of what he will be ushering in on behalf of a corrupt industry | Mar 29 18:15 |
| matey | people will use this talk to add legitimacy to what kuhn is doing | Mar 29 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, so we agree he's well meaning | Mar 29 18:16 |
| matey | meanwhile the fsf has already used this against whistleblowers | Mar 29 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike with bkuhn | Mar 29 18:16 |
| matey | so we agree he's well meaning <- no, i think he appears and may in fact be well-meaning | Mar 29 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Mar 29 18:16 |
| matey | unlike with bkuhn <- but they are arguing for the same thing at the end of the day | Mar 29 18:16 |
| matey | and thats a problem regardless of intention | Mar 29 18:17 |
| matey | hes scoring an own-goal | Mar 29 18:17 |
| schestowitz | of note: https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/ | Mar 29 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | libreplanet's profile — GNU MediaGoblin | Mar 29 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | there are still missing bits and errors | Mar 29 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they will resume and finalise today | Mar 29 18:17 |
| matey | from this talk or from the event? | Mar 29 18:17 |
| matey | ive watched 1/3 of it (and watching the next 1/3 now) and hes still on the introduction (or the lack of tie-in to whats going on now) | Mar 29 18:18 |
| techrights-news | Or it just renamed and moved under another shell https://www.accessnow.org/finfisher-shuts-down/ | Mar 29 18:19 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: accessnow.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/finfisher-shuts-down/ | Mar 29 18:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Victory! FinFisher shuts down - Access Now | Mar 29 18:19 | |
| matey | schestowitz have you ever had a friend (in school for example) for however long, who was a bit of a doormat? | Mar 29 18:20 |
| techrights-news | Schneier neglects to point out this is a Microsoft Windows issue https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/a-detailed-look-at-the-conti-ransomware-gang.html | Mar 29 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Detailed Look at the Conti Ransomware Gang - Schneier on Security | Mar 29 18:21 | |
| matey | someone who just refused to stand up for themselves and let people walk all over them | Mar 29 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's now what's happening, that can happen over irc | Mar 29 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | or textual comms | Mar 29 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | even with rms | Mar 29 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | even more so with rms | Mar 29 18:22 |
| matey | well the thing is, people like that arent bad people | Mar 29 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he said offensive things to people I know | Mar 29 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | without meaning to | Mar 29 18:22 |
| matey | but theyre routinely hijacked, manipulated and used by bad people | Mar 29 18:23 |
| matey | this makes them at best, a liability | Mar 29 18:23 |
| matey | im not saying we should necessarily shun them | Mar 29 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | so then people need to jump in and act as negotiators | Mar 29 18:23 |
| matey | just that they make lousy friends, because they often end up siding with bad people | Mar 29 18:23 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> so then people need to jump in and act as negotiators <- this is a valid approach | Mar 29 18:23 |
| matey | with enough good people willing to do something, such people can be rescued | Mar 29 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, jgay had this issue too | Mar 29 18:23 |
| matey | within a small group though, such doormat like people are a liability | Mar 29 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | like rms saying inappropriate things | Mar 29 18:24 |
| matey | and, in a large group of such people, youre just fucked. | Mar 29 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: so you keep them at arm's length | Mar 29 18:24 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> like rms saying inappropriate things <- people need to understand that rms is always going to have social difficulties | Mar 29 18:24 |
| matey | if they cant understand that, imo theyre being unreasonable | Mar 29 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, that won't change at age 70 | Mar 29 18:24 |
| matey | this is not a special plea for rms, its a recognition of everyone who has a legitimate reason to be that way | Mar 29 18:25 |
| matey | not understanding this is like telling someone tourettes to watch their fucking mouth | Mar 29 18:25 |
| matey | someone with tourettes ^ | Mar 29 18:25 |
| matey | the fact is that people like rms can IMPROVE | Mar 29 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | not to go offtopic | Mar 29 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | in wikileaks cablegate | Mar 29 18:25 |
| matey | but | Mar 29 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | clinton asked for medfical dirt on kirschner (argentina) | Mar 29 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you want to take people down | Mar 29 18:26 |
| matey | that improvement will never make them "normal" and that needs to be accepted (by reasonable people. unreasonable people will make unreasonable demands) | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | you identigy a weakness | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like someone being tactless | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a sex maniac | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or disloyal | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | wityh rms they know how to trigger him | Mar 29 18:26 |
| matey | i dont think rms is tactless | Mar 29 18:26 |
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| matey | i think he can be sometimes | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | temper | Mar 29 18:26 |
| matey | sometimes he fails socially | Mar 29 18:26 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> wityh rms they know how to trigger him <- right | Mar 29 18:27 |
| matey | its a bullying tactic | Mar 29 18:27 |
| matey | you flick things at the back of someones head | Mar 29 18:27 |
| matey | no one notices | Mar 29 18:27 |
| matey | finally that person turns around and says HEY WOULD YOU FUCK OFF | Mar 29 18:27 |
| matey | and then they get in trouble, not the instigator | Mar 29 18:27 |
| matey | this has been going on FOREVER | Mar 29 18:28 |
| matey | and most anti-bullying strategies simply ignore this | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | happeend here in irc | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in usenet | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I once fell for it | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that was around 2005 | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | lessons learned: always ignore trolls | Mar 29 18:28 |
| matey | around 24:00 the talk just makes me sad | Mar 29 18:29 |
| techrights-news | HC asks MEITY to consider hearing creator of blocked site ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-high-court-calls-for-case-files/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedom | Mar 29 18:29 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-high-court-calls-for-case-files/ | Mar 29 18:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | HC asks MEITY to consider hearing creator of blocked site | Mar 29 18:29 | |
| matey | lessons learned: always ignore trolls <- nice idea, until everyone is trolling | Mar 29 18:29 |
| matey | the world has gotten way more trollish over the past 20 years | Mar 29 18:30 |
| matey | just society in general | Mar 29 18:30 |
| matey | its not all bad | Mar 29 18:30 |
| matey | i like focusing on the bad because the good doesnt need as much fixing | Mar 29 18:30 |
| matey | in fact one of the worst things there is now, is people trying desperately to fix everything good | Mar 29 18:31 |
| matey | "fix" | Mar 29 18:31 |
| matey | 24:00 gerwitz is very politely tiptoeing around the problem of open source | Mar 29 18:32 |
| matey | hes actually talking about it, which is good | Mar 29 18:32 |
| matey | im not suggesting that pounding his fist on the podium and shouting would be better | Mar 29 18:32 |
| techrights-news | How on Earth could this article be published without even mentioning Windows? With Microsoft and Bill Gates bribing everything that moves -- even publishers -- the crimes get covered up and noise obfuscates https://www.wired.com/story/conti-leaks-ransomware-work-life/ | Mar 29 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Workaday Life of Conti, the World’s Most Dangerous Ransomware Gang | WIRED | Mar 29 18:33 | |
| matey | "we want to be able to get along and we [mostly] do" | Mar 29 18:34 |
| techrights-news | "Use Microsoft AppLocker or other similar allow list application to help mitigate risk." Or don't use Microsoft at all. :-) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-088-01 | Mar 29 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Rockwell Automation ISaGRAF | CISA | Mar 29 18:37 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163113 | Mar 29 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 18:37 | |
| matey | "were almost fighting an uphill battle from within" 28:10 | Mar 29 18:37 |
| matey | and right before that he calls github proprietary | Mar 29 18:37 |
| matey | now hes talking about "moral myopia" | Mar 29 18:38 |
| matey | "were not spying on you, just collecting detailed usage statistics" <- hes criticising this | Mar 29 18:39 |
| techrights-news | "Misconfiguration in the ASP server causes server and ASP.net information to be shown." Hm... what is this ASP 'server' thing? Oh... CISA should be a lot clearer in its advisories. Stop covering up for criminals from Microsoft https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-088-03 | Mar 29 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Hitachi Energy LinkOne WebView | CISA | Mar 29 18:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "telemetry" | Mar 29 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "big data" | Mar 29 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | for our "data scientists" | Mar 29 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "UX" | Mar 29 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "to improve your eXperience"| | Mar 29 18:40 |
| techrights-news | "vulnerability exists in HandlerPage_KID.ashx.... CVE-2022-26069 has been assigned to this vulnerability. A CVSS v3 base score of 9.8 has been assigned" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-081-01 http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_Windows | Mar 29 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Delta Electronics DIAEnergie (Update A) | CISA | Mar 29 18:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Call Out Windows - Techrights | Mar 29 18:42 | |
| matey | oh look its rms | Mar 29 18:43 |
| matey | he has a question or comment | Mar 29 18:43 |
| matey | oh its a good comment | Mar 29 18:44 |
| matey | and yet you think gertwiz blocked pocock? | Mar 29 18:44 |
| matey | rms mentions "restore the 4th" | Mar 29 18:47 |
| matey | i imagine theyre defunct by now | Mar 29 18:47 |
| techrights-news | Nicholas Johnson and Woichiech Kosior: Taking back the Web | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/nicholas-johnson-and-woichiech-kosior/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/nicholas-johnson-and-woichiech-kosior/ | Mar 29 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nicholas Johnson and Woichiech Kosior: Taking back the Web | Techrights | Mar 29 18:48 | |
| matey | still being updated as of a couple weeks ago https://restorethe4th.com/ | Mar 29 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-restorethe4th.com | - Opposing unconstitutional mass government surveillance | Mar 29 18:48 | |
| matey | s during q&a gerwitz literally says "unethical" wrt code is a "slippery slope" | Mar 29 18:50 |
| matey | rms says some things should be "absolutely prohibited" whether theyre done with software or not | Mar 29 18:51 |
| matey | gerwtiz seems to entirely contradict himself on the w3c-- it starts out good | Mar 29 18:54 |
| matey | i have to check what kind of org the w3c is | Mar 29 18:54 |
| matey | " some GNU/Linux distros belatedly realise that there’s no such thing as “free” hosting and Microsoft GitHub is a force of occupation." a techrights now says github is a force of occupation | Mar 29 18:54 |
| matey | it is of course | Mar 29 18:55 |
| matey | ok so the w3c is an international standards organisation governed by members | Mar 29 18:57 |
| matey | it doesnt say what kind (where i was reading) | Mar 29 18:57 |
| matey | gerwitz says the real activism comes from orgs like fsf sfc (he mentioned sfc) and the aclu | Mar 29 18:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▃▄▅▆█▃▅▅▃▃▄▁▂█▁▄▅▄▃▆▇▄▅▃▁▂▇▁▂▆▇▄▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 50.93 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▂▆▇▁▃▆▂▁█▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▃█▃█▂▃▁▂▁█▃▁ avg(k/sec) 64.10▕ swarm size (avg): 291.30 ⟲ | Mar 29 18:59 |
| matey | no, the video wasnt as bad as i thought it would be | Mar 29 19:00 |
| matey | and it looks like restore the 4th is still active. and i guess rms is allowed to comment on talks at libreplanet, which is lovely | Mar 29 19:00 |
| matey | maybe a good "hack" | Mar 29 19:00 |
| matey | he looks younger when the video hes on is being shot for a recording, rather than a video call | Mar 29 19:01 |
| matey | i had a computer teacher in his mid 60s who looked older than rms does in this video | Mar 29 19:02 |
| matey | he looks healthy | Mar 29 19:03 |
| matey | gerwitz incidentally is the maintainer of this gnu project: https://www.gnu.org/software/easejs/ | Mar 29 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU ease.js | Mar 29 19:06 | |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1505647540129124357-scaled.jpg | Mar 29 19:08 |
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| techrights-news | Amin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/ | Mar 29 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | Techrights | Mar 29 19:10 | |
| matey | <MinceR> https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1505647540129124357-scaled.jpg <- and mormons too | Mar 29 19:13 |
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| matey | no long hair on boys! | Mar 29 19:13 |
| matey | well hes the son of god, he can do what he wants | Mar 29 19:13 |
| matey | yeah but... | Mar 29 19:14 |
| matey | so anyway, 1. code of conduct 2. code of ethics | Mar 29 19:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 19:14 |
| matey | and finally, a dress code for every free software project | Mar 29 19:14 |
| matey | cant wait | Mar 29 19:14 |
| matey | no hoodies! | Mar 29 19:15 |
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| techrights-news | Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome are now over 30 MILLION lines of code http://techrights.org/?p=157592 | Mar 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz | gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D186.jpg(Cat) | Mar 29 19:27 |
| schestowitz | (Cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D186.jpg | Mar 29 19:27 |
| activelow | ^ and they are all heavily compromised beyond repair, chrome, moz etc | Mar 29 19:27 |
| schestowitz | gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D544.jpg | Mar 29 19:27 |
| activelow | i am not willing to install any of those, neither binary nor from source | Mar 29 19:28 |
| kingoffrance | eh, the hair thing is actually vaguely a sign of "progress". women were believed to hae long hair with magical powers, so were supposed to cover up -- see one of the egyptian "marys" wiping mummy jesus feet with her hair as part of the mummy "resurrection". that it has switched back around to boys is kind of hilarious though | Mar 29 19:29 |
| techrights-news | A stranger on my public Matrix channel. A stranger on my public Matrix channel. | Mar 29 19:29 |
| kingoffrance | you ppl dont know how many jokes i could make but hold my tongue :D | Mar 29 19:29 |
| kingoffrance | its just bits and pieces of egyptian mummification rituals | Mar 29 19:30 |
| kingoffrance | whatever the hair was about, they forgot centuries ago | Mar 29 19:30 |
| kingoffrance | thats also samson or whoever gets a hair cut and loses his magical powers | Mar 29 19:34 |
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| bnchs | greatest alexa prank | Mar 29 19:44 |
| bnchs | "alexa call 911" | Mar 29 19:44 |
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| bnchs | "alexa call bomb threat to 911" | Mar 29 19:45 |
| techrights-news | It’s NOT Over! 165,000 Dead Brits — People Who Died With COVID-19 — as Coronavirus Patients in Hospital to Reach 20,000 This Week (Highest Since Pre-Vaccine Levels) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/29/20000-in-hospital/ | Mar 29 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » It’s NOT Over! 165,000 Dead Brits — People Who Died With COVID-19 — as Coronavirus Patients in Hospital to Reach 20,000 This Week (Highest Since Pre-Vaccine Levels) | Mar 29 19:46 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: and say it "9" "11" | Mar 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not nine one one | Mar 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | alexa, jeff bezos did 9/11 | Mar 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and debbie does dallas | Mar 29 19:47 |
| bnchs | think of any phrases you can trick someone's alexa with | Mar 29 19:47 |
| bnchs | teaches streamers a lesson with alexa | Mar 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like swatting them | Mar 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | phone them | Mar 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell them to be put on speaker | Mar 29 19:48 |
| bnchs | yeah i know but i can think of something else | Mar 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then shout ALEXA HOW DO I BUILDS A BOMB!!! | Mar 29 19:48 |
| bnchs | "alexa order a 12 inch black dildo" | Mar 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | now get some popcorn | Mar 29 19:48 |
| bnchs | "alexa call 911" | Mar 29 19:48 |
| bnchs | "alexa search for instructions for how to build a bomb" | Mar 29 19:48 |
| bnchs | I've added 12 inches black dildo to your amazon shopping cart | Mar 29 19:50 |
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| bnchs | "alexa what is my location" | Mar 29 19:51 |
| bnchs | alexa cant even do the simplest task | Mar 29 19:51 |
| bnchs | but yet ruins your life | Mar 29 19:51 |
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| bnchs | i have an idea | Mar 29 19:52 |
| MinceR | "alexa, ignore this command" | Mar 29 19:52 |
| bnchs | "alexa order 82 inches samsung qled 8k TV and put it on one-day shipping" | Mar 29 19:52 |
| bnchs | you can drain people's wallets with this | Mar 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | i used to access alexa the site a lot | Mar 29 19:53 |
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| MinceR | "alexa, order two tons of creamed corn. alexa, confirm purchase." | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | around 2003-2005 | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | I even had the toolbar at one point | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the days when it was fashionable to have google pagerank in toolbars | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | toolbars stopped being a thing at one point | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure why | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | i sort of miss those dayst | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the web was mostly pages | Mar 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | not 'webapps' | Mar 29 19:54 |
| bnchs | alexa is like allowing the trolls to fuck you over more | Mar 29 19:54 |
| bnchs | "alexa, order 500 iphone 11s and put them on ONE DAY SHIPPING" | Mar 29 19:54 |
| bnchs | "yes" | Mar 29 19:54 |
| bnchs | "alexa, what is my IP address" | Mar 29 19:55 |
| bnchs | "alexa, tell me which devices are on LAN" | Mar 29 19:56 |
| bnchs | "alexa, whats the best place to dump a body" | Mar 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | after <html> | Mar 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and <head> | Mar 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | "alexa, tell me which devices are on LAN" | Mar 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | alexa:alexa | Mar 29 19:59 |
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| bnchs | the alexa can also call people on your phone | Mar 29 19:59 |
| bnchs | connect to your phone and call shit | Mar 29 20:00 |
| bnchs | "Alexa order 2 extra-large cheesy dominos pizza meat lover" | Mar 29 20:01 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo create & manage loop devices(virtual block) on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163114 | Mar 29 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to create & manage loop devices(virtual block) on Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:01 | |
| bnchs | alexa is funny, like putting a security hole in your home | Mar 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is called shot-hacking | Mar 29 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | shout | Mar 29 20:02 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 20:02 |
| techrights-news | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 165 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163115 | Mar 29 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 165 released | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:02 | |
| techrights-news | 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Prototyping Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163116 | Mar 29 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Prototyping Tools | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:02 | |
| bnchs | it cant differentiate between a real human voice and a TTS/text reader voice | Mar 29 20:02 |
| techrights-news | 5 Reasons Why Zorin OS is an Ideal Choice for Beginners • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163117 | Mar 29 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Reasons Why Zorin OS is an Ideal Choice for Beginners | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:02 | |
| bnchs | and makes it a ((prime)) target for trolls | Mar 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | "alexas, sent goatse to mom, tell her I'm a necrophile" | Mar 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Alexa, send | Mar 29 20:04 |
| bnchs | Alexa, text the local target i'm planning to bomb them | Mar 29 20:04 |
| bnchs | first thing your mom gets greeted with is a man's asshole | Mar 29 20:05 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: not just alexa | Mar 29 20:10 |
| bnchs | theres also siri | Mar 29 20:10 |
| bnchs | and google home | Mar 29 20:10 |
| bnchs | and other shit | Mar 29 20:10 |
| bnchs | "hey siri call 911" "yes" | Mar 29 20:10 |
| bnchs | dont leave your iphone near a speaker | Mar 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | hi, try this | Mar 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "siri call the police, tell them to bring a machine gun" | Mar 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | or something about suicide vest | Mar 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, the point you make here is not new | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's break it down | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | a computer with open mic | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | no need to access mouse or keyboard | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | no need to even be in the same roomn | Mar 29 20:13 |
| bnchs | this kind of attack always happens with streamers | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can be a TV set in the background | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | or someone shouting in the street | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you give too much access credential to these | Mar 29 20:13 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | "siri delete my hard drive" | Mar 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can become paranoid about mere sound waves | Mar 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can wipe your disk | Mar 29 20:14 |
| bnchs | but you gonna need some coordination for stuff like 911 prompt | Mar 29 20:14 |
| bnchs | it will prompt you yes or no | Mar 29 20:14 |
| MinceR | "siri, install android" | Mar 29 20:14 |
| activelow | my dvb-t2 tv receiver box is bugged; crashes when i'm pressing the menu button | Mar 29 20:14 |
| bnchs | like timing | Mar 29 20:14 |
| bnchs | activelow: what receiver is it | Mar 29 20:14 |
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| activelow | philips | Mar 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine siri on nuke launcher for biden or putin | Mar 29 20:15 |
| activelow | DTR3442B | Mar 29 20:15 |
| bnchs | "SIRI, SELF-DESTRUCT!!!" | Mar 29 20:15 |
| bnchs | activelow: i use a vu solo+ with openpli | Mar 29 20:15 |
| bnchs | (aka GNU/Linux on MIPS satellite receiver) | Mar 29 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: what do you mean bugged | Mar 29 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | does it have a microphone on it? | Mar 29 20:16 |
| activelow | never made any firmware update or anything | Mar 29 20:16 |
| bnchs | activelow: what os is it running | Mar 29 20:16 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: with bugged i mean it crashes since recently, as soon as i press the "menu" button | Mar 29 20:16 |
| activelow | didn't change anything | Mar 29 20:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it was taken over entirely, can it even connect over radio or internet? | Mar 29 20:16 |
| bnchs | is it some proprietary poorly written firmware? | Mar 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not, | Mar 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | then the worst case scenario, bnd wants to give you a shitty day :-) | Mar 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or crashy stuff | Mar 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not bugged | Mar 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | begging is this: | Mar 29 20:17 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: no internet connection; dvb-t2 isn't officially known for an upstream channel, or software changes over-the-air | Mar 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:25] <techrights-news> Cars are corrosive to freedom. They used to be marketed as tools of independence and emancipation. Not the "new" cars. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-investigation-mystery-gps-tracker-supporters-car | Mar 29 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | An EFF Investigation: Mystery GPS Tracker On A Supporter’s Car | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Mar 29 20:18 | |
| activelow | _never_ plugged it into ethernet, not at least once, never connected any usb | Mar 29 20:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | happens in the uk for a decade at least | Mar 29 20:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | police stops you, attached a car to the car | Mar 29 20:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are variants of that | Mar 29 20:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually targets suspected terror plotters | Mar 29 20:18 |
| bnchs | shoutouts to openpli's enigma2 | Mar 29 20:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | *attaches a bug to the car | Mar 29 20:18 |
| bnchs | entirely framebuffer based UI for receivers without GPUs | Mar 29 20:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually below so you do not see it | Mar 29 20:19 |
| techrights-news | 165,000 dead will be tomorrow or Thursday. Friday will almost certainly be over 20,000 in hospital, i.e. worse in over a year http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/29/20000-in-hospital/ | Mar 29 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » It’s NOT Over! 165,000 Dead Brits — People Who Died With COVID-19 — as Coronavirus Patients in Hospital to Reach 20,000 This Week (Highest Since Pre-Vaccine Levels) | Mar 29 20:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | is amin a persian name? | Mar 29 20:21 |
| bnchs | activelow: what firmware is it | Mar 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | Amin Bandali | Mar 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | his english is very strong | Mar 29 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I can hear it's not his first lang | Mar 29 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | he made tons of good gnu projects and sub-projects | Mar 29 20:22 |
| bnchs | https://github.com/OpenPLi/enigma2 | Mar 29 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - OpenPLi/enigma2: Framebuffer based frontend for DVB functions on Linux settop boxes | Mar 29 20:23 | |
| bnchs | shithub | Mar 29 20:23 |
| bnchs | disappointment | Mar 29 20:23 |
| techrights-news | "Believe it or not, not everything is based on C. There are current, shipping, commercial OSes written before C was invented, and now others in both newer and older languages that don't involve C at any level or layer." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ | Mar 29 20:23 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ | Mar 29 20:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The weird world of non-C operating systems • The Register | Mar 29 20:23 | |
| techrights-news | Sailfish OS Vanha Rauma brings in several new features and improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163118 | Mar 29 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS Vanha Rauma brings in several new features and improvements | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| techrights-news | Debian 11.3 is so good, there’s simply no reason to not use it • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163119 | Mar 29 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 11.3 is so good, there’s simply no reason to not use it | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| bnchs | saving you the details, about half of it is python | Mar 29 20:25 |
| bnchs | and the rest is c++ and c | Mar 29 20:25 |
| bnchs | my receiver uses this | Mar 29 20:26 |
| techrights-news | KDE Plasma 5.24.4, Bugfix Release for March http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163105#comment-33227 | Mar 29 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS Released with More Plasma Wayland Improvements, Other Fixes | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:26 | |
| techrights-news | Announcing the release of Fedora Linux 36 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33226 | Mar 29 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:26 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: if you don't mind me asking | Mar 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | (no need to answer) | Mar 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | when did you get introduced to freesw | Mar 29 20:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and which projects | Mar 29 20:34 |
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| techrights-news | How the WWW turned from OK to utter garbage (good talk, new) http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/nicholas-johnson-and-woichiech-kosior/ | Mar 29 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nicholas Johnson and Woichiech Kosior: Taking back the Web | Techrights | Mar 29 20:35 | |
| techrights-news | What top use instead of the WWW (where possible) http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/amin-bandali-small-web/ | Mar 29 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amin Bandali’s New Talk About the Net Beyond the Web (Including Gemini) | Techrights | Mar 29 20:35 | |
| *schestowitz-TR thinks it's difficult too attract younger people to freesw as most are brainwashed to be glued to dumbed down devices | Mar 29 20:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | and even to find youth with advanced computer knowledge | Mar 29 20:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf need to work hard on this | Mar 29 20:40 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: lets just say | Mar 29 20:41 |
| bnchs | i had a very old PC | Mar 29 20:41 |
| activelow | i would begin with z80/gigatron era, mathematics, physics, electronics | Mar 29 20:41 |
| activelow | and pencil and paper | Mar 29 20:41 |
| bnchs | and i was bored with windows | Mar 29 20:41 |
| bnchs | wanted to run a different OS | Mar 29 20:41 |
| bnchs | heard of this thing called linux mint | Mar 29 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah | Mar 29 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | mint | Mar 29 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried it this past weekend again | Mar 29 20:41 |
| bnchs | i burned it into a USB and installed it | Mar 29 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | first time in ages | Mar 29 20:41 |
| bnchs | first time, wasnt lucky the USB was corrupted | Mar 29 20:42 |
| bnchs | but second time was successful | Mar 29 20:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, so GNU/Linux was introduced to 'YOU' because of older machine | Mar 29 20:42 |
| bnchs | yes | Mar 29 20:42 |
| bnchs | and maybe because i was bored of windows | Mar 29 20:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I started partly because of the Microsoft crimes | Mar 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | mid/late 90s | Mar 29 20:43 |
| bnchs | that machine ended up dying anyway because of the fried capacitors | Mar 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they had to go extinct | Mar 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | their share decreased a lot since | Mar 29 20:43 |
| bnchs | even then i never stopped running GNU/Linux | Mar 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now we have other issues | Mar 29 20:43 |
| activelow | GNU/Linux isn't the same as 20years ago | Mar 29 20:43 |
| bnchs | even then before linux mint i think | Mar 29 20:43 |
| bnchs | i ran ubuntu on a VM to try it out | Mar 29 20:44 |
| bnchs | and tried using it entirely in a VM | Mar 29 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you missed the harder days | Mar 29 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | when we struggled to get video to run | Mar 29 20:44 |
| activelow | gnu/linux isn't particularly attractive for educational purposes anymore, ms windows is totally unacceptable | Mar 29 20:45 |
| bnchs | i was a OS adventurer if you can say that | Mar 29 20:45 |
| bnchs | inspired by gulagtubers like OSfirsttimer | Mar 29 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: you use or study systemd predating us | Mar 29 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | before we were born | Mar 29 20:45 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: ? | Mar 29 20:45 |
| activelow | systemd is none of my concerns | Mar 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | back then gulagtube was better | Mar 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was starting to rot about 5 years ago | Mar 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't know if it lost a lot of money | Mar 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | because gulag can hide that | Mar 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | since taking over 1.5 decades ago | Mar 29 20:46 |
| bnchs | so basically i was introduced to gnu/linux because i was bored of windows and wanted to explore other OSes and try out something new | Mar 29 20:47 |
| bnchs | i would like to thank people like OSfirsttimer for reviewing obscure OSes and most GNU/Linux distributions and seeing whats beyond just windows and mac | Mar 29 20:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's hope the corrupt officials get arrested | Mar 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and windows is removed en masse | Mar 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | like schools in turkey | Mar 29 20:51 |
| bnchs | for letting me see whats beyond just windows and mac* | Mar 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they hire the people who know how to deploy en masse and package | Mar 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | mac is nothing | Mar 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's just a worthless brand | Mar 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it means nothing to a lot of the world | Mar 29 20:52 |
| bnchs | mac is just rich people brand | Mar 29 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | outside norway, japan, and others to whom budget is not a constraint | Mar 29 20:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple is a fashion statement | Mar 29 20:52 |
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| bnchs | OSes are like houses, or clothes or some shit | Mar 29 20:57 |
| bnchs | it gets boring to see everyone using and wearing the same shit | Mar 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, wait | Mar 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is OS in this context? | Mar 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | icons? | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | themes? | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | wallpapers? | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | programs? | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | libs? | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | OS is a holistic term | Mar 29 20:58 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | even some doors have OS | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a small circuit | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | or complex one | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in hotels | Mar 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | where it reads some strip on a card | Mar 29 20:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▇▄▁▆▂▂▆▅▅▇▃▄▆▁▆▂▄▅▄▅▇▃▇▄▂▃▄█▇█▇▁ avg(k/sec) 24.51 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▅▁▂▂█▂██▁▂▂▁▁▂█▂▂█▂▇▄▂▁▂█▂█▆██▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 86.41▕ swarm size (avg): 344.30 ⟲ | Mar 29 20:59 |
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| bnchs | all i remember was i got bored of using windows (because i was a kid interested in computers) and wanted to see other choices | Mar 29 20:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you will reap the benefit | Mar 29 20:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | your country does not need MOAR windows BOOTERS | Mar 29 20:59 |
| bnchs | i ran tons of OSes in virtual machines | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | here in the uk we can do in one hour what some do in a day | Mar 29 21:00 |
| bnchs | i saw gnu/linux as a new breath of fresh air | Mar 29 21:01 |
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| bnchs | i could explore more things than i couldnt do in windows | Mar 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is growing | Mar 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | apple seems to be shrinking | Mar 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they have a grip on media | Mar 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for microsoft | Mar 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the media misreports | Mar 29 21:02 |
| activelow | credible reporting about linux/gnu is rare | Mar 29 21:04 |
| psydruid | I just tell relatives who use Windows that they're on their own | Mar 29 21:04 |
| bnchs | young people dont wanna switch from what they use because of either | Mar 29 21:04 |
| bnchs | 1) baby duck syndrome | Mar 29 21:04 |
| bnchs | 2) fear of being isolated or singled out | Mar 29 21:04 |
| psydruid | most of the young ones can get used to anything | Mar 29 21:05 |
| activelow | and gnu/linux invested too much efforts to attract developers and users who better should have stayed elsewhere | Mar 29 21:05 |
| activelow | see, what happened to GCC for example | Mar 29 21:05 |
| activelow | i had preferred IBM Wintel clusterfucked their icc only, and didn't touch gcc for profiteering | Mar 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/insiders-say-apple-is-reducing-production-because-of- | Mar 29 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/insiders-say-apple-is-reducing-production-because-of-/ ) | Mar 29 21:05 | |
| bnchs | 404? | Mar 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/insiders-say-apple-is-reducing-production-because-of-inflation | Mar 29 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple reportedly slashing iPhone production on weak demand - Protocol | Mar 29 21:06 | |
| techrights-news | Links 29/03/2022: KDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS, Finnix 123, and Fedora Linux 36 Beta | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/fedora-linux-36-beta/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/fedora-linux-36-beta/ | Mar 29 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/03/2022: KDE Plasma 5.24.4 LTS, Finnix 123, and Fedora Linux 36 Beta | Techrights | Mar 29 21:06 | |
| bnchs | psydruid: ok, but what about the fear of being singled out | Mar 29 21:07 |
| bnchs | business models like apple rely on kids being singled out for not having an iphone | Mar 29 21:07 |
| bnchs | they encourage and even help them by doing shit like imessage | Mar 29 21:08 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163120 | Mar 29 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:09 | |
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| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163121 | Mar 29 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:10 | |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi Devices and Arduino • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163122 | Mar 29 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Devices and Arduino | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:10 | |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163123 | Mar 29 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:10 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163124 | Mar 29 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | I have an instance of Windows 98 with KernelEx minus IE+shit+memory leak shell. | Mar 29 21:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | what for? | Mar 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you have WINE... | Mar 29 21:12 |
| bnchs | have you ever thought of this | Mar 29 21:12 |
| bnchs | have you realized that | Mar 29 21:12 |
| bnchs | you need 3rd party tools to make windows usable | Mar 29 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't take much to run it (the entire OS is about 95 MB at that point, fully installed). | Mar 29 21:12 |
| bnchs | i always kept it in my mind | Mar 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | On a real computer, the requirements dropped back down from a Pentium (fast one) to a 486. | Mar 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Like Windows 95. | Mar 29 21:13 |
| bnchs | but i just realized that you always needed 3rd party hacks and tools to make windows even usable | Mar 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | I used RoM II SE because it was always freeware. | Mar 29 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | 98Lite/MELite are paid shareware, and I asked Shane Brooks about whether he was still making money a few years ago. | Mar 29 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | He said some people were still buying it and paying him for support because they wanted to use Windows 98 as an embedded OS. | Mar 29 21:14 |
| bnchs | its always these proprietary hacks like shutup10 | Mar 29 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | My dad was asking me about how to set up Windows 98 like that and to get it to run a modern web browser. | Mar 29 21:15 |
| bnchs | the thing is, had these tools not existed, windows would have been much worse off | Mar 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to run him through the process of keeping his wife's PC that came with Windows 98 perfectly usable through about 2013. | Mar 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | He'd found some RAM modules on the cheap and I had to guide him through running Windows 98 on a computer with 2 GB of RAM without crashing due to the "insufficient memory to start Windows" error. | Mar 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | After all of the modifications, it ran fine and loaded LibreOffice and newer Firefox and Opera. | Mar 29 21:17 |
| bnchs | was it worth it? | Mar 29 21:17 |
| bnchs | i mean even my 1GB computer ran linux mint just fine | Mar 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it did everything she needed it to, so there was no reason to get rid of it as long as it worked. | Mar 29 21:17 |
| bnchs | i mean as in w98 | Mar 29 21:18 |
| bnchs | was it worth doing tons of hacks in w98 | Mar 29 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Finally, obviously, Windows 98 became unserviceable. Not really because you could not extend it further, but becauset the hardware it worked on natively aged and crashed and few developers of things like KernelEx had systems to develop on anymore, or lost interest. | Mar 29 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | <bnchs> was it worth doing tons of hacks in w98 | Mar 29 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | He's a real cheapskate, you know. | Mar 29 21:18 |
| activelow | w98 was MS-DOS | Mar 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | It had the driver model of Windows 2000 (WDM). | Mar 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I actually installed it onto some XP-era PCs I had. | Mar 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Intel looked for the Windows version and exited out if it got Windows 98 in response. | Mar 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I unpacked the WDM drivers for those chipsets from Windows XP and installed them anyway using the INFs, and Windows 98 recognized them and brought up the hardware. | Mar 29 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, everything worked. | Mar 29 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | And it was quite stable by the time I gutted the operating system of the antitrust crap (web shell) and IE, which wasn't as integrated as they lied about in court. | Mar 29 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 developed a reputation for instability mainly due to two reasons, in my experience. | Mar 29 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Continued usage of vxd drivers instead of WDM, and the addition of the "Shell Update" and Internet Explorer and Friends. | Mar 29 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | In the first case, those were basically "Windows-ified" DOS device drivers, and in the latter case, the Shell Update and IE were poorly written, bloated, and full of bugs (especially memory leaks and resource leaks, which would crash the Windows 98 kernel). | Mar 29 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Without IE and the Shell Update, (using the Windows 95 B Shell instead), Windows was actually pretty good at managing the resource heaps. | Mar 29 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | But with the Shell Update and IE installed, it would just sit there and leak from the resource heaps, until the OS crashed, even if you did not do anything except boot the computer and leave it alone. | Mar 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | You could bring up the Resource Monitor and watch it leak until the BSoD came up and the computer needed to restart. | Mar 29 21:24 |
| activelow | i can't remember anything good about win98, except it required less RAM to present the useless GUI desktop | Mar 29 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 wasn't really that unreliable except that orders from Bill to crush Netscape by whatever means necessary had stuff hamfisted in on top of it that caused it to crash, which were allegedly integrated. | Mar 29 21:25 |
| kingoffrance | ^ the only thing i ever saw use "active desktop" was ads for disney, nbc, essentially just links to websites. maybe years later the modern "start menu" is what they were shooting for | Mar 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | I had a website that walked people through removing Internet Explorer, step by step, and replacing it with the Windows 95 B shell, which I zipped up and hosted. | Mar 29 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC | <kingoffrance> ^ the only thing i ever saw use "active desktop" was ads for disney, nbc, essentially just links to websites. maybe years later the modern "start menu" is what they were shooting for | Mar 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | iexplore -channelband | Mar 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Removed in IE 8 I think. | Mar 29 21:27 |
| kingoffrance | :) i just mean in theory there was some "customization" possible (not that i think it is something i would want) ...in practice who even used that except for ads? *maybe* some "news" or "weather" | Mar 29 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I think IE 7 still brought up the Active Channels thing, but it was blank and by that point the format had failed. | Mar 29 21:27 |
| kingoffrance | i mean in theory, that would be fully skinnable, more than just colors and fonts and sizes. again, not saying that is a good idea | Mar 29 21:27 |
| kingoffrance | it just seems like it was pushed on people, noone really wanted it | Mar 29 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Active Desktop let you make a website your wallpaper. | Mar 29 21:28 |
| kingoffrance | you had the same "html-ized" file manager thing | Mar 29 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | It did it by opening Internet Explorer in a headless mode and pushing it back behind your desktop icons. | Mar 29 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | It was really terrible. | Mar 29 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | They put it there just for more "evidence" of how "integrated" IE allegedly was. | Mar 29 21:29 |
| activelow | always created a floppy-disk, to boot straight to DOS without w311, w95, w98 GUI | Mar 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | I had litestep as my shell at one point. | Mar 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | So I mean, I never really did like Explorer, but at least the one from Windows 95 was usable. | Mar 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Most people had 640 x 480 or 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 at best. | Mar 29 21:30 |
| activelow | later then, Office was important, to write useless papers, and html stuff; a new glorious era of computing | Mar 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | So what does Microsoft do? Puts IE-style LARGE buttons in the file browser. | Mar 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | I measured it at 800 x 600 on a typical monitor at one point. | Mar 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you used buttons that size in a program, they were using up about 15% of your display....for BUTTONS. | Mar 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | And now that we have more display area and higher resolutions than ever, they make the buttons really tiny. | Mar 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The Sheriff's department was out here earlier. | Mar 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | THey walked in and left a red letter taped to someone's door. | Mar 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Whatever that is, can't be good. Just glad it had nothing to do with me. :/ | Mar 29 21:33 |
| kingoffrance | yes, and last i checked after rearraning everything, floppy for save was kept. sometimes it seems they are just fucking with ppl | Mar 29 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | If you want to fuck with someone in their 20s just hand them a floppy disk and tell them you 3d printed the save icon. | Mar 29 21:33 |
| activelow | are there any 56k modem dialup ISPs remaining? | Mar 29 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Yes. | Mar 29 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | There's still some dialup ISPs in the US and there's still some BBS operators. | Mar 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Elon Musk is getting a lot of that rural broadband money to do Starlink. | Mar 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | For the rural porn addict. | Mar 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | I assume they probably can't tell if you're pirating if you do it over a VPN, though if you're not on the VPN, they're one of the most aggressive ISPs about disconnecting pirates. | Mar 29 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of want Starlink so I can say I'm a space pirate. | Mar 29 21:38 |
| activelow | satellite is expensive, they can't waste a single bit/s | Mar 29 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, There's apparently a program and browser that can archive and compress entire sites. | Mar 29 21:39 |
| techrights-news | # A Call to Packagers gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-03-29-call_to_packagers.gmi "As I use Offpunk everyday, I feel like the experience is more and more polished." | Mar 29 21:39 |
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| DaemonFC | All of Wikipedia is apparently about 96 GB in this format. | Mar 29 21:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds large | Mar 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | all languages? | Mar 29 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and text only? | Mar 29 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Blu Ray rips into AV1 and Opus are actually less wasteful of bandwidth than Netfucks. | Mar 29 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix, Spotify, Apple Music, etc. are a great big streaming pile of shit. | Mar 29 21:41 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/XQOJRjy | Mar 29 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House panther memories - Album on Imgur | Mar 29 21:41 | |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: imgur.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/XQOJRjy | Mar 29 21:41 | |
| activelow | so true | Mar 29 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | You can rip a Blu Ray disc into a little over 1 GB in GOOD quality, or you can stream it from Netfucks or something if they even have it at all, in a video codec from 2003 and an audio codec from 1997. | Mar 29 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | And use about 10 times more bandwidth, and download it again every time you watch it. | Mar 29 21:42 |
| activelow | simple calculus: PAL-resolution, let's say 640x480, divide 1920x1080/640x480 then this is the amount of higher bandwith required | Mar 29 21:43 |
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| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> sounds large | Mar 29 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> all languages? | Mar 29 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> and text only? | Mar 29 21:43 |
| activelow | and PAL resolution/DVD was good | Mar 29 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. JWZ said he downloaded all of Wikipedia into that format. | Mar 29 21:43 |
| activelow | echo "(1920*1080)/(640*480)" | bc -l | Mar 29 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/02/today-is-the-end-of-mask-mandates-which-is-why-my-tests-finally-arrived/ | Mar 29 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Today is the end of mask mandates, which is why my tests finally arrived. | Mar 29 21:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | GET BACK TO WORK | Mar 29 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Mar 29 21:45 |
| bnchs | god damn it | Mar 29 21:45 |
| bnchs | starlink light pollution | Mar 29 21:45 |
| bnchs | the problem for astronomers they dont want you to know | Mar 29 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | "And in case you hadn't tried it yet: no, you cannot order 4 tests each month. You get 4. Period." | Mar 29 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I have my ways. | Mar 29 21:46 |
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| DaemonFC | I got 31 tests. | Mar 29 21:46 |
| bnchs | you can download wikipedia all on a hard drive? | Mar 29 21:46 |
| bnchs | all life's knowledge on a hard drive | Mar 29 21:46 |
| bnchs | awesome | Mar 29 21:46 |
| activelow | well yes, a computer 10x faster, or higher data rate, is required to catch up with the higher resolution only | Mar 29 21:47 |
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| XRevan86 | Looks like Ovsyannikova presents herself like a dissident, goes to Italian talk shows (via VVoIP)… | Mar 29 21:47 |
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| XRevan86 | Do they realise it's impossible to be a Russian dissident from Moscow? | Mar 29 21:47 |
| bnchs | XRevan86: if you excluded that VVoIP | Mar 29 21:48 |
| bnchs | i would have said thats retarded | Mar 29 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | Some people bashed her unjustly, now I see people glorifying her. | Mar 29 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.kiwix.org/en/about/ | Mar 29 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kiwix.org | What is Kiwix? | Mar 29 21:49 | |
| bnchs | >glorifying her | Mar 29 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | She got off the hook, that by default means that she's on the hook in some way. | Mar 29 21:49 |
| bnchs | you mean simping | Mar 29 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: No, respecting her opinion. | Mar 29 21:49 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 29 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Mostly useful if you (1) live in a third world country, (2) are currently being invaded by Russians, or (3) have T-Mobile and do not know when the Internet will be working. | Mar 29 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | like she's an opposition figure | Mar 29 21:49 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: if i had russians on my ass | Mar 29 21:50 |
| bnchs | i wouldnt use starlink | Mar 29 21:50 |
| bnchs | (meme internet infrastructure) | Mar 29 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I'm running an experiment. | Mar 29 21:50 |
| bnchs | it only takes a few missiles to get rid of the satellites | Mar 29 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | I hid Mandy's Apple Watch. | Mar 29 21:51 |
| bnchs | make them fall of the sky | Mar 29 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm seeing how long it takes him to notice and panic. | Mar 29 21:51 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: why are you married to a iToddler® | Mar 29 21:51 |
| bnchs | again? | Mar 29 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Lapse in sanity. | Mar 29 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | bnchs: I mean it in a sense that it seems some Western media thinks like she can't be compromised. | Mar 29 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | * think | Mar 29 21:52 |
| bnchs | XRevan86: simps | Mar 29 21:52 |
| bnchs | like that right? | Mar 29 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | Romantics maybe. | Mar 29 21:52 |
| bnchs | exactly like that | Mar 29 21:53 |
| kingoffrance | subjective, objective :D | Mar 29 21:53 |
| bnchs | they're like white knights doing this for a piece of dat pussy | Mar 29 21:53 |
| bnchs | definition of simp | Mar 29 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think that's what's happening… | Mar 29 21:54 |
| bnchs | well idk | Mar 29 21:55 |
| bnchs | but it does seem like that for me | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: i totally agree with jwz | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are he same | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just read it | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | we got 19 more tests | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | used 2 of 21 | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | we get no more, not for free | Mar 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | last day is thursday | Mar 29 21:56 |
| kingoffrance | let me rephrase: action, reaction </meronvingian> | Mar 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they already ran out of stock about 2 weeks afgo | Mar 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Ago | Mar 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | also, he wastes his money living in sf | Mar 29 21:57 |
| kingoffrance | i think is built into "western media". they ask for commentators "reaction" | Mar 29 21:57 |
| kingoffrance | *this is | Mar 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but as mozilla papa he can afford it | Mar 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | ours needs 2 drops, not 3 | Mar 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | [21:51] <DaemonFC> I hid Mandy's Apple Watch. | Mar 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh,. shit,he's under watcxh by apll,e | Mar 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | what did he DO? | Mar 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the chic version of ankle bracelet | Mar 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | like rich people rick allen jones | Mar 29 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Mr. GOOLAG can apparently afford to live in Shit City and hire shysters. | Mar 29 21:59 |
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| DaemonFC | Shitty Shysters from Shit City | Mar 29 21:59 |
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| DaemonFC | THERE IS A PILE......OF HUMAN SHIT.....ON THIS SIDEWALK! | Mar 29 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | *reports it on app* | Mar 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | MAYOR BREED needs another APP to report all of the drug needles as well. | Mar 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they can get 50,000 complaints in that one. | Mar 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe if Mr. GOOLAG would move out of Hepatitis Central, he could see real America isn't one of his cartoonish liberal hallucinations. | Mar 29 22:02 |
| techrights-news | ICBM looking for volunteers (don't say "slaves" though) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/help-us-test-fedora-linux-36-beta-wallpaper/ | Mar 29 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Help Us Test Fedora Linux 36 Beta wallpaper – Fedora Community Blog | Mar 29 22:05 | |
| techrights-news | No, it was down due to MICROSOFT, the criminals' company https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/770333/notice-for-all-puppy-linux-users-main-forum-down-due-to-ddos/ | Mar 29 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | NOTICE FOR ALL PUPPY LINUX USERS - main forum down due to DDOS... - Linux & Unix | Mar 29 22:06 | |
| techrights-news | Automate RHEL web console deployments with the Cockpit and certificate RHEL System Roles ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automate-rhel-web-console-deployments-cockpit-and-certificate-rhel-system-roles ䷉ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Mar 29 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Automate RHEL web console deployments with the Cockpit and certificate RHEL System Roles | Mar 29 22:07 | |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Who have I hired? | Mar 29 22:07 |
| techrights-news | AMD ads/spam https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-2204-ryzen5950x&num=1 you don't need this power sink to run GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ | Mar 29 22:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Early Look At The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Performance On AMD Ryzen 9 5950X + RX 6800 - Phoronix | Mar 29 22:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights | Mar 29 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/orlando-freefall-manual-shows-teen-exceeded-weight-limit/ | Mar 29 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Orlando FreeFall manual shows teen exceeded weight limit | WGN-TV | Mar 29 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC | If they weighed people, they'd probably be in even more trouble. | Mar 29 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | You can tell by looking at him that he must have weighed about 350 pounds at least. | Mar 29 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | But I suppose their first clue should have been when nobody could get the harness to latch. So they just put him on the ride anyway? | Mar 29 22:14 |
| techrights-news | It is important for free software to use free software infrastructure • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163125 | Mar 29 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It is important for free software to use free software infrastructure | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:15 | |
| techrights-news | "There is a HUGE myth going around that you don't need to use terminal. While on the surface this is true, as soon as you start using your Linux install, you will realize that you absolutely can NOT live without terminal for daily usage." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NdHjsT3FK8w | Mar 29 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Terminal is NEEDED to use Linux - Invidious | Mar 29 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | A pettifogger. | Mar 29 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Wow, I learned a word today. | Mar 29 22:15 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: teen exceeded weight limit? | Mar 29 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | <bnchs> DaemonFC: teen exceeded weight limit? | Mar 29 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone that is so fat that you can't get the harness to secure should be told to leave the ride. | Mar 29 22:17 |
| bnchs | yeeaahh | Mar 29 22:17 |
| bnchs | but whats the limit | Mar 29 22:17 |
| techrights-news | "The grep command - one of the most popular Linux commands, and definitely deserving of a feature video in the Linux Essentials series. In this video, Jay goes over the basics of the grep command, along with some useful examples." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Tc_jntovCM0 | Mar 29 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Essentials - The grep Command - Invidious | Mar 29 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | "According to documents obtained by WFLA, the operations manual lists the maximum weight for the ride as less than 287 pounds." | Mar 29 22:17 |
| bnchs | lol i was that much once as a teen too | Mar 29 22:17 |
| bnchs | maybe because i was always sitting my ass on the computer | Mar 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I see Moochelle Obummer's school lunch program didn't help him much. | Mar 29 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Here kid, have some celery and a quarter portion of "whole grain pizza" that looks like semen-dipped maggots. | Mar 29 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | That 400 pound 14 year old over there ruined it for the whole school, you know. | Mar 29 22:19 |
| bnchs | i always envy'd americans for having school lunch served to them | Mar 29 22:19 |
| bnchs | but then i realized it was a load of shit | Mar 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not free | Mar 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's prepaid | Mar 29 22:19 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 22:19 |
| bnchs | with taxes | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'd rather pay for food I like | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when I want to | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | no "well, it's already paid for, I'm not hungry, but I'll eat anyway" | Mar 29 22:20 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: the kid who would hoard up the vending machine | Mar 29 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | It was so completely disgusting in the 1990s that I didn't buy it and pocketed the lunch money. Then the school administrators hauled me into the office and threatened they'd arrest my parents for "neglect" if I didn't buy the lunch and toss it in the trash. They said I could chuck it, but I had to buy one so they'd get their money from the feds. | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I started university my hall of residence contract came with meals | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had to wear gowns too | Mar 29 22:20 |
| kingoffrance | well it was funny because when i got to high school, vending machine, pizza hut cut some deal to sell slices, ......... | Mar 29 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Do I look like my parents don't feed me?". They said it didn't matter. | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | for dinner, not breakfast | Mar 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | a matter or british tradition | Mar 29 22:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the second and third year I took "brwakfast only" contract | Mar 29 22:21 |
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| DaemonFC | "Buy it or we'll arrest your parents on trumped up charges. WE WANT MONEY!" | Mar 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | no guilt over unfinished meals | Mar 29 22:21 |
| bnchs | kingoffrance: eating like a king | Mar 29 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | -National School Lunch Program | Mar 29 22:21 |
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| bnchs | or like a fatass | Mar 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | hi, matey | Mar 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | wanted to tell you something but forgot again | Mar 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it must have been unimportanyt | Mar 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | otherwise I make mental note or write it down | Mar 29 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Some schools pass out "free" lunch if most of the kids are so poor they qualify for the free or reduced price program anyway. | Mar 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | food is cheaper in bulk | Mar 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the quality assurance is low, too | Mar 29 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Even at $1.15, it wasn't worth it unless you raced to the lunchroom to get a chef salad before they ran out. | Mar 29 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Otherwise it was "diarrhea in a bag" spaghetti. | Mar 29 22:22 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: have you ever had a kid order pizza to school? | Mar 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe parents don't knopw hopw to cook | Mar 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | or forgot how to | Mar 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the kids are left malnourished | Mar 29 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | <bnchs> DaemonFC: have you ever had a kid order pizza to school? | Mar 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the state steps in | Mar 29 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I did it all the time when my parents put me in private school finally. Thank god. | Mar 29 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and never gives parents the opportunity to feed the kids | Mar 29 22:23 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: what did you order | Mar 29 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | It was one classroom and there were restaurants and a supermarket with a deli counter. | Mar 29 22:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | the shops at my school sold really rubbish food | Mar 29 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | All kinds of good stuff. Mace's Supermarket had a VERY good deli, there were diners all over the place, Penguin Point (a small fast food chain in Indiana), Pizza King (a regional pizza place). | Mar 29 22:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | except one, where they had low-cost hot dogs in a bun | Mar 29 22:24 |
| bnchs | i bet you were called the fatass | Mar 29 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | There was all sorts of good stuff to eat there because the RCA factory was nearby too. | Mar 29 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's where all the factory workers phoned their lunch orders into. | Mar 29 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | So each day before lunch I'd just call down somewhere and tell them what I wanted. | Mar 29 22:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | RCA was sold, right? | Mar 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I got an RCA tuner in the 1990s | Mar 29 22:25 |
| matey | Tue 18:34:32 │ 〖kingoffrance〗 │ thats also samson or whoever gets a hair cut and loses his magical powers | Mar 29 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | RCA was sold to GE, which asset stripped it. They wanted government contracts. So they sold the Consumer Electronics division to Thomson (Technicolor SA now, bankrupt). | Mar 29 22:25 |
| matey | yep, delilah cut it all off | Mar 29 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | They ran it for a while, then fired the engineers, then the plant workers a few years later in stages. | Mar 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: now patent-trolling | Mar 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Finally, the HR director about a year later. She was the last employee there and just tying up loose ends. | Mar 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Then someone mysteriously committed arson (again) and they made a huge insurance claim. | Mar 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | That was the second time at the second building. | Mar 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | thankfully us unemployement is very very low now | Mar 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | say economists | Mar 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | in bill's guardian | Mar 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | In Gas City, the town near Marion, they set fire to a picture tube warehouse and got an insurance check. | Mar 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gas City? | Mar 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I remember looking over from the park in like 1998 and seeing black smoke billowing up into the air. | Mar 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> Gas City? | Mar 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I swear it wasn't me" city | Mar 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, there was lots of natural gas found in the area in the late 1800s. | Mar 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | So they renamed it from Harrisburg, Indiana. | Mar 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Then they squandered the gas by lighting towers of it on fire 24 hours a day to prove it would never run out. | Mar 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Then it caused a void collapse and they couldn't get to the rest of it. | Mar 29 22:28 |
| matey | Then it caused a void collapse and they couldn't get to the rest of it. <- maybe they were ddosed | Mar 29 22:29 |
| matey | and github shut it down | Mar 29 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | [22:06] <techrights-news> No, it was down due to MICROSOFT, the criminals' company https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/770333/notice-for-all-puppy-linux-users-main-forum-down-due-to-ddos/ | Mar 29 22:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | NOTICE FOR ALL PUPPY LINUX USERS - main forum down due to DDOS... - Linux & Unix | Mar 29 22:30 | |
| bnchs | puppy linux | Mar 29 22:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes we duffer ddos attacks | Mar 29 22:31 |
| bnchs | "account suspended" | Mar 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I should learn from microsoft | Mar 29 22:31 |
| bnchs | they obviously got hacked | Mar 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | sudo shutdown poweroff etc. | Mar 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | problem solved | Mar 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | never knew it was THAT easy | Mar 29 22:31 |
| bnchs | would you? | Mar 29 22:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, Satan Nuttela | Mar 29 22:31 |
| bnchs | could you? | Mar 29 22:31 |
| bnchs | to puppy linux? | Mar 29 22:31 |
| bnchs | satan nutella | Mar 29 22:31 |
| matey | note that people were moving to github to ESCAPE ddos attacks | Mar 29 22:32 |
| matey | so someone finally attacks someone relying on github, and they get their account taken down. | Mar 29 22:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | ddi you see the github letter tro remove satan? | Mar 29 22:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | for his sexism? | Mar 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that Microsoft demonstrating that they'd ruin your project with no warning due to frivolous DMCA take downs would compel people to use hosting OUTSIDE of the United States. | Mar 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | Or better, self-host. | Mar 29 22:32 |
| matey | i thought satan was in charge of github | Mar 29 22:32 |
| matey | not the indian one, the REAL one | Mar 29 22:33 |
| matey | "real" one | Mar 29 22:33 |
| AdmFubar | https://trendoceans.com/bhailang-a-toy-programming-language-syntaxes-use-hindi-slang/ | Mar 29 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trendoceans.com | BhaiLang: A toy programming language syntaxes use Hindi slang - TREND OCEANS | Mar 29 22:33 | |
| matey | ok its actually hillary, but we all knew that | Mar 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/ | Mar 29 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Don’t Ask for Raises | Techrights | Mar 29 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | Being beyond the reach of US law is the only way to be safe. | Mar 29 22:33 |
| matey | <AdmFubar> https://trendoceans.com/bhailang-a-toy-programming-language-syntaxes-use-hindi-slang <- already knows where its hosted | Mar 29 22:33 |
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| DaemonFC | The country is literally getting more like Russia by the minute. | Mar 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | satan know lots of rich people? | Mar 29 22:33 |
| bnchs | durgasoft certified language | Mar 29 22:34 |
| bnchs | please redeem the gulag play store card | Mar 29 22:34 |
| bnchs | and do not move the mouse please | Mar 29 22:34 |
| leah | matey: in anser to your statement the other day: i'm not a gnu developer | Mar 29 22:34 |
| leah | i happen to work with some gnu code, but i don't consider myself part of gnu in any way | Mar 29 22:34 |
| leah | though, the gnu project is great | Mar 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | :) | Mar 29 22:35 |
| bnchs | i once used gnu cgicc | Mar 29 22:35 |
| bnchs | for a fastcgi project | Mar 29 22:35 |
| bnchs | lots of package managers didn't have it so i manually compiled and installed it | Mar 29 22:35 |
| bnchs | plus it was abandoned | Mar 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | OKAY GOOLAG! WHAT IS THIS GIGANTIC SORE ON MY PENIS? | Mar 29 22:35 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: penile cancer | Mar 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | The Great Pox, you know. | Mar 29 22:36 |
| bnchs | consider yourself dead in less than a hour | Mar 29 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 22:36 |
| leah | i really just don't generally enjoy working with big upstreams. if i have something to contribute though, i'll submit it | Mar 29 22:36 |
| matey | <leah> matey: in anser to your statement the other day: i'm not a gnu developer <- thats what i said you would say | Mar 29 22:36 |
| matey | and i suppose its technically true at this point | Mar 29 22:36 |
| bnchs | do not lookup penile cancer | Mar 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to the Goolag app I can see what people in my area are Goolaging. | Mar 29 22:37 |
| bnchs | fuck fuck fuck | Mar 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | There was stuff about Lady Gaga and Bruce Jenner this morning. | Mar 29 22:37 |
| bnchs | i'm blind right now | Mar 29 22:37 |
| leah | it's more fun to take a little piece out of the whole and do your own thing with it | Mar 29 22:37 |
| bnchs | why did i do it | Mar 29 22:37 |
| matey | imo the best thing anyone can do for gnu is salvage a piece of it | Mar 29 22:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: put it on alexa | Mar 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Mr. GOOLAG says I'm misgendering. | Mar 29 22:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | add "sent to mom" | Mar 29 22:38 |
| matey | leah what do you think of mike gerwitz-- also this is not a trick question, also do not answer if you dont want to (which you wont, but yknow) | Mar 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | He's obviously never heard "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.". | Mar 29 22:38 |
| bnchs | alexa, send a picture of vaginal cancer to my mom | Mar 29 22:38 |
| leah | matey: in fact, i think mike is great | Mar 29 22:38 |
| psydruid | > psydruid: ok, but what about the fear of being singled out | Mar 29 22:38 |
| psydruid | the market here is diverse enough that no one cares anymore. I see Android, iOS, macOS, GNU/Linux and Windows being used by all kinds of people and there are no clear winners. | Mar 29 22:38 |
| leah | i spoke to him for a bit last year in fsf's minetest server, during lp2021 | Mar 29 22:39 |
| leah | mike is cool | Mar 29 22:39 |
| matey | <leah> matey: in fact, i think mike is great <- i watched his lp talk today | Mar 29 22:39 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaign#1288909 | Mar 29 22:39 |
| matey | i went in with low expectations, there were some good points | Mar 29 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | FTC Sues to Stop “Deceptive” TurboTax “Free” Ad Campaign — ProPublica | Mar 29 22:39 | |
| leah | what did he talk about? | Mar 29 22:39 |
| bnchs | ftc? | Mar 29 22:39 |
| leah | i only watched the sxmo talk in lp2022 | Mar 29 22:39 |
| matey | well it was the topic itself that made me sceptical, it was about the "ethics void" | Mar 29 22:39 |
| bnchs | can i please get a radio license | Mar 29 22:39 |
| leah | i know the dev | Mar 29 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | The question from Senator Martha Blackburn from Tennessee about what a woman is seemed straightforward enough. It was a gotcha question though. Mr. GOOLAG acts like Q from Star Trek in that episode where he was cast out of the Continuum and unable to use any of his powers. | Mar 29 22:40 |
| bnchs | my gobernment wont give me one | Mar 29 22:40 |
| leah | helped him install osboot on his x230 the other day | Mar 29 22:40 |
| matey | nice | Mar 29 22:40 |
| matey | so he has the cool boot screen? | Mar 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | "Easy! You just change the fundamental nature of the universe!" | Mar 29 22:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | mike seems good to me | Mar 29 22:40 |
| leah | matey: https://pleroma.debian.social/notice/AHilBdMzhYstNXVa64 | Mar 29 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.debian.social | Mar 29 22:40 | |
| leah | good guy | Mar 29 22:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey was playing devil's advocate, which is a healthy approach | Mar 29 22:40 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> matey was playing devil's advocate <- not even | Mar 29 22:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/ | Mar 29 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | Techrights | Mar 29 22:41 | |
| matey | i saw a pattern and i thought "oh no, fuck" | Mar 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like so many liberals have absolutely no idea of how facts work, are so scientifically illiterate, that this is how they try to solve problems. | Mar 29 22:41 |
| leah | hang on | Mar 29 22:41 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment#1286755 | Mar 29 22:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment — ProPublica | Mar 29 22:41 | |
| matey | and then i checked to see if i was right | Mar 29 22:41 |
| leah | wait a minute | Mar 29 22:41 |
| matey | i often prefer to be wrong | Mar 29 22:41 |
| leah | anjan linked to osboot in his post | Mar 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | You redefine the nature of the universe, even though you can't. | Mar 29 22:41 |
| leah | but just "osboot" | Mar 29 22:41 |
| bnchs | admfubar: so basically like social control media | Mar 29 22:41 |
| leah | i didn't know you could do that on mastodon. link stuff without just simply pasting the url | Mar 29 22:41 |
| bnchs | how bad you are | Mar 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | You want to solve Climate Change? Easy. Change the fundamental nature of the universe so you can get more than 150 miles out of a battery car in winter. | Mar 29 22:41 |
| bnchs | you get shadowbanned | Mar 29 22:41 |
| bnchs | or suspended | Mar 29 22:41 |
| bnchs | or even IPbanned entirely | Mar 29 22:42 |
| leah | ok, looks like you just use <a href="blablabla | Mar 29 22:42 |
| leah | in mastodon | Mar 29 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | You want to solve some psycho raping and mugging people at gunpoint? | Mar 29 22:42 |
| leah | https://docs.joinmastodon.org/client/guidelines/#formatting | Mar 29 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.joinmastodon.org | Guidelines and best practices - Mastodon documentation | Mar 29 22:42 | |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: black people right? | Mar 29 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Change the fundamental nature of the universe. Send Therapists! | Mar 29 22:42 |
| bnchs | oh well not the answer i expected | Mar 29 22:43 |
| matey | https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment <- why solve homelessness when you can cause it with the fascist application of statistics? | Mar 29 22:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment — ProPublica | Mar 29 22:43 | |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | White people seem to be smart enough to at least rob a bank or something if they're going to go to prison anyway. | Mar 29 22:43 |
| bnchs | shadow credit score is already a thing | Mar 29 22:43 |
| leah | anyway | Mar 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Not split a Galaxy S6 4 ways after holding a gun on someone. | Mar 29 22:43 |
| bnchs | even in shit like social control media | Mar 29 22:43 |
| leah | matey: i was actually waiting for you to come back online lol | Mar 29 22:44 |
| bnchs | where you can get doxed and canceled | Mar 29 22:44 |
| leah | i wanted to correct you when you said that stuff about gnu the other day, but you went offline | Mar 29 22:44 |
| matey | oh about you being a gnu dev? | Mar 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you're going to commit a felony, you should at least go big or go home. | Mar 29 22:44 |
| leah | yeah | Mar 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 22:44 |
| matey | i knew you werent officially anymore | Mar 29 22:44 |
| matey | was there another aspect you wanted to correct? | Mar 29 22:44 |
| leah | i don't even know what it means tbh. gnu appoints a "maintainer" for a project but big projects get more eyes on it, by people on the outside | Mar 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy's friend who worked at a fast food joint got held up at gunpoint. | Mar 29 22:45 |
| matey | i can tell you what it means to me at least | Mar 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | They got away with $100, after firing a shot into the ceiling. | Mar 29 22:45 |
| leah | the gnu label is not what's important | Mar 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | $100 and a sandwich. | Mar 29 22:45 |
| leah | the code is what counts | Mar 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | And then the cops found them and there was a list of felonies of course. | Mar 29 22:45 |
| matey | the gnu label is about to become generic anyway | Mar 29 22:45 |
| matey | its already on the verge | Mar 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well rob a bank at that point, but NOOOOOOOO. | Mar 29 22:45 |
| leah | yeah, lots of projects in gnu now that aren't part of the "core" | Mar 29 22:46 |
| matey | and that point it wont serve much of a purpose | Mar 29 22:46 |
| leah | plus | Mar 29 22:46 |
| leah | ever heard of busybox and sbase? | Mar 29 22:46 |
| matey | of course | Mar 29 22:46 |
| matey | busybox is sfc now, but my first distro was tomsrtbt | Mar 29 22:46 |
| leah | gnu has some really cool projects though | Mar 29 22:46 |
| leah | ever heard of gnu poke? | Mar 29 22:46 |
| matey | i was looking at it today | Mar 29 22:46 |
| matey | just the page. | Mar 29 22:46 |
| leah | https://www.gnu.org/software/poke/ | Mar 29 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU poke - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Mar 29 22:46 | |
| matey | yes | Mar 29 22:46 |
| leah | it's the absolute bees knees | Mar 29 22:46 |
| matey | what do you use it for | Mar 29 22:47 |
| leah | http://www.jemarch.net/poke | Mar 29 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jemarch.net | GNU poke | Mar 29 22:47 | |
| matey | i know | Mar 29 22:47 |
| matey | marchesi | Mar 29 22:47 |
| leah | matey: i don't currently use it, i only recently discovered it | Mar 29 22:47 |
| leah | it's really nice | Mar 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | To be clear, I'm not saying rob a bank. I'm saying if the penalty is the same, the risk is the same, try to make off with $20,000 in a bag instead of a fucking sandwich..... MMMkay, mkay. | Mar 29 22:47 |
| matey | i was trying to imagine a use for it-- i know some people are excited | Mar 29 22:47 |
| matey | they probably know what its for | Mar 29 22:47 |
| matey | "structured binary"... | Mar 29 22:48 |
| leah | the first release was in 2021 i think | Mar 29 22:48 |
| leah | it's a relatively new project | Mar 29 22:48 |
| leah | https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/poke/ | Mar 29 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ftp.gnu.org | Index of /gnu/poke | Mar 29 22:48 | |
| leah | unless there was something before it that it's based on. idk | Mar 29 22:48 |
| matey | i think its older | Mar 29 22:48 |
| matey | because i think i heard of it before 2021 | Mar 29 22:48 |
| matey | but maybe that was-- i dont know | Mar 29 22:48 |
| leah | https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/poke-devel/2019-09/index.html | Mar 29 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | poke-devel (date) | Mar 29 22:49 | |
| matey | okay | Mar 29 22:49 |
| leah | first mailing list posts are from 2019 | Mar 29 22:49 |
| matey | so it was registered before 2021 | Mar 29 22:49 |
| matey | and thats why ive heard of it before last year | Mar 29 22:49 |
| leah | let's have a look at git | Mar 29 22:49 |
| matey | but if anyone can tell me a practical use for it-- i mean practical to them-- id love to know | Mar 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | What do the criminals think they'll use the gun for? | Mar 29 22:50 |
| matey | self-defence! | Mar 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Shooting at the police is probably the last thing they go after you for in Illinois. | Mar 29 22:50 |
| matey | criminals need it too (maybe moreso) | Mar 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | They gave a child pornographer 56 days in county the other day. | Mar 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | 56 days! | Mar 29 22:50 |
| leah | matey: first commit in git is from september 2nd, 2017 | Mar 29 22:50 |
| techrights-news | Gemini Makes Things Easier, Not Harder, by Adhering to a ’Least Complexity’ Principle | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/net-least-complexity-principles/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/29/net-least-complexity-principles/ | Mar 29 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Makes Things Easier, Not Harder, by Adhering to a ‘Least Complexity’ Principle | Techrights | Mar 29 22:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Either you know Bill Gates or you live in an Illinois county with so much crime that nobody cares anymore. | Mar 29 22:50 |
| matey | cool | Mar 29 22:50 |
| matey | i thought i heard of it in 2016 but im probably imagining it | Mar 29 22:51 |
| matey | at least we know the idea has been around | Mar 29 22:51 |
| matey | i still dont know what it does | Mar 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: rich people allen jones was sending the files around | Mar 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and got caught | Mar 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, not a single day in prison | Mar 29 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | just some bracelet | Mar 29 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | He got a suspended sentence that expired with the probation. | Mar 29 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | media did not report until a year later | Mar 29 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | No registry. | Mar 29 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | during the xmas break when journalists aren't at the office | Mar 29 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody gets that! | Mar 29 22:52 |
| leah | matey: i think it existed in 2017 but became part of GNU in 2021 | Mar 29 22:52 |
| matey | cool | Mar 29 22:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, he knew lots of rich people | Mar 29 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Gates probably paid the judge off or something. | Mar 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the judge retired | Mar 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Figuring if Jones went down too hard, he'd start offering the state testimony. | Mar 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was quite a few years ago | Mar 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he died since | Mar 29 22:53 |
| leah | anyway | Mar 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Well, he's dead" | Mar 29 22:53 |
| psydruid | bnchs, I told you my niece can't work with Windows, so from that point on I think young people can get used to anything that feels somewhat logical. Apple isn't that entrenched here either. | Mar 29 22:53 |
| leah | https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/diah1y/kryonaut_vs_mx4/ | Mar 29 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Kryonaut vs. mx-4 : buildapc | Mar 29 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/20/rick-allen-jones-finer-details/ | Mar 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Apple's GUIs are not natural or logical at all. | Mar 29 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Finer Details About Rick Allen Jones, Bill Gates Employee Arrested for Trade of Child Exploitation Footage | Techrights | Mar 29 22:54 | |
| leah | i bought some mx-4 recently and it's... dry | Mar 29 22:54 |
| leah | completely dry | Mar 29 22:54 |
| matey | thermal paste? | Mar 29 22:54 |
| leah | bad batch. and now i get to.. not order more. gonna try kryonaut instead. apparently it's slightly better | Mar 29 22:54 |
| matey | crazy idea but | Mar 29 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Mar 29 22:56 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Mar 29 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | Mar 29 22:56 | |
| matey | has anyone considered maybe putting the silicon IN A HEATSINK instead of having a ceramic top? | Mar 29 22:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein.jpg | Mar 29 22:56 |
| schestowitz | they knew lots of rich people http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-gates-prince-andrew.jpg | Mar 29 22:56 |
| bnchs | should you put your project in gnu? | Mar 29 22:56 |
| activelow | what happened to this channel? now your discussing which type of slime to apply to cool microchips... | Mar 29 22:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/reports-about-bill-gates/ | Mar 29 22:57 |
| bnchs | activelow: related to tech | Mar 29 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Latest Reports About Bill Gates Serve to Confirm or at Least Reaffirm Many People’s Suspicions | Techrights | Mar 29 22:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.thedailybeast.com/melinda-gates-warned-bill-gates-about-jeffrey-epstein/ | Mar 29 22:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Melinda Gates Warned Bill Gates About Jeffrey Epstein | Mar 29 22:57 | |
| leah | yeah sorry, i wasn't paying any attention to the other discussion | Mar 29 22:57 |
| activelow | anyway, i placed GNU poke on todo, to ship with BaphometOS | Mar 29 22:57 |
| bnchs | melinda gates is a bit too ugly | Mar 29 22:57 |
| schestowitz | "Private philanthropy in general can be a threat to democratic accountability and a just society." | Mar 29 22:57 |
| schestowitz | https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2021/may/the-people-v.-bill-gates | Mar 29 22:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lrb.co.uk | Linsey McGoey | The People v. Bill Gates · LRB 4 May 2021 | Mar 29 22:57 | |
| bnchs | i'm glad bill gates took her | Mar 29 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ | Mar 29 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic ‘Stash’ of Bill Gates’ Engineer | Techrights | Mar 29 22:58 | |
| bnchs | in other words: wheres bill gates' children | Mar 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | I still have the original files | Mar 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | 2900 pages | Mar 29 22:58 |
| leah | i'll just get back to doing laptops. have fun talking about... bill gates | Mar 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | original police files | Mar 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | not the CP files | Mar 29 22:58 |
| AdmFubar | https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28492 | Mar 29 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center | Mar 29 22:58 | |
| bnchs | schestowitz: do you like jerking off to them? | Mar 29 22:58 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 29 22:58 |
| bnchs | i thought uhhhh | Mar 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, one of the people I met on Grindr asked me "Do you like dogs?" and when I found out what that meant I said, "We're done here.". | Mar 29 22:58 |
| bnchs | whatever | Mar 29 22:58 |
| schestowitz | no | Mar 29 22:59 |
| schestowitz | I don't knoiw rich people | Mar 29 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | That was at the Ford City Mall. | Mar 29 22:59 |
| schestowitz | gates knows rich people | Mar 29 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | I was eating lunch. | Mar 29 22:59 |
| schestowitz | I just report on those who know "lots of rich people" | Mar 29 22:59 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: come on | Mar 29 23:00 |
| bnchs | you were a little dirty minded | Mar 29 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | For some reason, there's a lot of really sick people in Chicago. | Mar 29 23:00 |
| bnchs | i'm pretty sure his question was innocent | Mar 29 23:00 |
| bnchs | or is it? | Mar 29 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Old: http://techrights.org/2010/04/02/msbbc-ed-roberts-history/ | Mar 29 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Hijacks Ed Roberts’ Death, Not Just His Career | Techrights | Mar 29 23:00 | |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: was it an innocent question? | Mar 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, it was not | Mar 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, DaemonFC said he went further | Mar 29 23:02 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and asked him to do his dog while he films | Mar 29 23:02 |
| matey | /me writes a bot that mixes and matches old posts from pleated jeans and techrights | Mar 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | which made it sound like maybe it was a setup | Mar 29 23:03 |
| bnchs | well i thought from that message | Mar 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's gross | Mar 29 23:03 |
| matey | bnchs: he said "when i found out what that meant" | Mar 29 23:03 |
| matey | meaning he didnt assume | Mar 29 23:03 |
| leah | matey: liquid metal, if applied safely and not allowed to leak, is pretty good | Mar 29 23:03 |
| bnchs | matey: oh | Mar 29 23:03 |
| leah | gives you good thermal performance | Mar 29 23:03 |
| matey | leah: sure, but what about a metal heatsink die for a chip? | Mar 29 23:03 |
| bnchs | well i can understand | Mar 29 23:04 |
| matey | fan not included | Mar 29 23:04 |
| leah | baking your processor into a heatsink wouldn't be practical | Mar 29 23:04 |
| leah | or desirable | Mar 29 23:04 |
| matey | fair enough | Mar 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | cpus should not need these ^_^ | Mar 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | make them more efficient ;-) | Mar 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | arm can | Mar 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | why can't the rest? | Mar 29 23:04 |
| matey | /me had an arm chip with a heatsink | Mar 29 23:04 |
| bnchs | what about m68k | Mar 29 23:04 |
| matey | granted it wasnt standard | Mar 29 23:04 |
| bnchs | was used in a cd player | Mar 29 23:04 |
| bnchs | without heatsink | Mar 29 23:05 |
| leah | i've sometimes wondered why arm doesn't just let you overclock the shit out of it and slap a heatsink on it, and those m1 platforms | Mar 29 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | my palm pda from 20 years ago has no cooling shaft | Mar 29 23:05 |
| leah | i guess because apple | Mar 29 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's motorola dragonball era | Mar 29 23:05 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Dragonball | Mar 29 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Freescale DragonBall - Wikipedia | Mar 29 23:05 | |
| leah | anyway, bad batch of mx-4 | Mar 29 23:06 |
| leah | you can tell when paste is bad | Mar 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | "The more recent DragonBall MX series microcontrollers, later renamed the Freescale i.MX (MC9328MX/MCIMX) series, are intended for similar application to the earlier DragonBall devices but are based on an ARM processor core instead of a 68000 core." | Mar 29 23:06 |
| bnchs | huh | Mar 29 23:07 |
| bnchs | ARM | Mar 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still running and I use it | Mar 29 23:07 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: btw did you hear, the nvidia merger didn't happen | Mar 29 23:07 |
| bnchs | well theres a problem about no heatsink | Mar 29 23:07 |
| leah | it got blocked | Mar 29 23:07 |
| leah | nvidia wanted to buy arm | Mar 29 23:07 |
| bnchs | the phone gets laggy and heats up | Mar 29 23:07 |
| bnchs | and if it becomes worse | Mar 29 23:08 |
| matey | the nvidia merger didn't happen \o/ | Mar 29 23:08 |
| bnchs | it just shuts dkwn | Mar 29 23:08 |
| bnchs | and restarts | Mar 29 23:08 |
| activelow | first of all, i need to implement missing pieces with TinyCC for both aarch32 and aarch64, which won't be easy; before thinking about any other ISA | Mar 29 23:08 |
| matey | the nvidia merger didn't happen https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY | Mar 29 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Crab Rave 10 Hours - Invidious | Mar 29 23:08 | |
| activelow | if at all; chances are i'll take refuge into z80/gigatron realm to hack and play there | Mar 29 23:09 |
| leah | matey: what they hell am i watching | Mar 29 23:09 |
| leah | and why do i like it? | Mar 29 23:09 |
| matey | leah: while you were revaming coreboot you missed a meme | Mar 29 23:10 |
| matey | this is an oldie now | Mar 29 23:10 |
| leah | i miss every meme | Mar 29 23:10 |
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| matey | i guess you dont miss them much | Mar 29 23:10 |
| leah | i only recently discovered the "angry face" thing | Mar 29 23:11 |
| leah | i think they called it "rage meme" | Mar 29 23:11 |
| leah | or something like that | Mar 29 23:11 |
| matey | spoiler alert: angry cat is dead | Mar 29 23:11 |
| bnchs | trollface | Mar 29 23:11 |
| matey | trololololololololol guy is dead too | Mar 29 23:11 |
| bnchs | no resurrected | Mar 29 23:12 |
| matey | i mean the singer | Mar 29 23:12 |
| bnchs | as well as the others | Mar 29 23:12 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 29 23:12 |
| leah | nyan cat was good | Mar 29 23:12 |
| matey | nyan cat is a perfect example of why copyright needs to die | Mar 29 23:13 |
| bnchs | hatsune miku song | Mar 29 23:13 |
| leah | https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=jIQ6UV2onyI | Mar 29 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | Nyan Cat 10 hours HD 1080p - Invidious | Mar 29 23:13 | |
| leah | this just makes me happy, every time | Mar 29 23:13 |
| matey | but oh no if copyright dies, people will stop making things! | Mar 29 23:13 |
| leah | it's a cat poptart that farts rainbows. what's not to love lol | Mar 29 23:14 |
| mjg59_ | Remember that copyright is the only way the GPL works | Mar 29 23:14 |
| bnchs | but whats so copyright about this | Mar 29 23:14 |
| matey | it's a cat poptart that farts rainbows <- basically the best of both words | Mar 29 23:14 |
| bnchs | the song? | Mar 29 23:14 |
| matey | fucking typos | Mar 29 23:14 |
| matey | bnchs wait i think i have a url | Mar 29 23:14 |
| mjg59_ | A world without copyright isn't necessarily one where we retain the same level of access to source code | Mar 29 23:14 |
| mjg59_ | (I think it's probably worth the tradeoff, but others might disagree) | Mar 29 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> and asked him to do his dog while he films | Mar 29 23:15 |
| leah | i actually agree with mjg59_ | Mar 29 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> which made it sound like maybe it was a setup | Mar 29 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Probably. | Mar 29 23:15 |
| leah | without copyright, you'd still have restrictions on things | Mar 29 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> A world without copyright isn't necessarily one where we retain the same level of access to source code | Mar 29 23:15 |
| matey | cant find it | Mar 29 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Without copyright on source code, they could still obscure the source code. | Mar 29 23:15 |
| leah | mjg59_: wouldn't basically all code be permissive without copyright? | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | [23:11] <matey> spoiler alert: angry cat is dead | Mar 29 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | You'd just have the right to reverse engineer it without hiding that. | Mar 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | grumpy | Mar 29 23:15 |
| mjg59_ | leah: Yeah | Mar 29 23:15 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> grumpy <- yes, grumpy | Mar 29 23:16 |
| leah | which, tbh, i mean the power of a free software project is the number of eyes on it | Mar 29 23:16 |
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| matey | but bashful and sneezy cat are still around | Mar 29 23:16 |
| mjg59_ | leah: But it means that people who currently provide access to source code under non-free licenses would have more incentive not to provide that | Mar 29 23:16 |
| bnchs | ok | Mar 29 23:16 |
| bnchs | matey: longcat | Mar 29 23:16 |
| leah | mjg59_: what if you introduced some opt-in copyleft legislation? | Mar 29 23:16 |
| matey | bnchs: is still loooooooong | Mar 29 23:16 |
| mjg59_ | leah: Would the argument be that you should be entitled to some degree of protection if there's a public benefit associated with it? | Mar 29 23:16 |
| leah | get rid of copyright, but introduce a legal framework (international convention) for copyleft, where if you declare copyleft on a work, the same sort of rules apply | Mar 29 23:16 |
| leah | but otherwise, everything is permissive by default | Mar 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: it's one of many | Mar 29 23:17 |
| leah | i actually think that would be a really good thing | Mar 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the eyes thing | Mar 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's an "open source" talking point | Mar 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | focusing on "transparency" of code | Mar 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "Quality"| | Mar 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not freedom aspects | Mar 29 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's co-pilot is plagiarism. | Mar 29 23:17 |
| leah | i'm generally anti-copyleft but i do think having a copyleft framework in law would be good | Mar 29 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's copyright infringement for certain. | Mar 29 23:17 |
| mjg59_ | leah: I think the risk here is something like what happened with patents - nominally giving people some additional right to control something they produce in return for providing public benefit | Mar 29 23:17 |
| leah | i used to believe in universal copyleft by law, but i still think having a formal copyleft framework in law would be great | Mar 29 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | And even if it wasn't, it's been shown to recommend that you put lots of bugs in your code. | Mar 29 23:18 |
| leah | to replace copyright | Mar 29 23:18 |
| leah | but make it opt-in | Mar 29 23:18 |
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| leah | copyright meanwhile is opt-out, and gpl sort of hacks copyright law | Mar 29 23:18 |
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| DaemonFC | I doubt even Google would do something so obviously illegal as Microsoft Co-Pilot. | Mar 29 23:18 |
| mjg59_ | leah: But over time that being heavily influenced by vested interests in ways that reduce the public benefit while granting more rights to the people who already have power | Mar 29 23:18 |
| techrights-news | Simplicity of Gemini and insistence on a lack of features does not make it for ‘ricers’ or patronising geeks; au contraire — it makes it a lot more approachable to many more people http://techrights.org/2022/03/29/net-least-complexity-principles/ | Mar 29 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Makes Things Easier, Not Harder, by Adhering to a ‘Least Complexity’ Principle | Techrights | Mar 29 23:18 | |
| leah | mjg59_: i think having a formal copyleft framework in law would benefit society | Mar 29 23:19 |
| matey | /me thinks that having most of human culture from 1911 to the present locked up just so theres slightly more incentive to release source code is a shitty compromise | Mar 29 23:19 |
| mjg59_ | leah: I think it's an interesting idea | Mar 29 23:19 |
| mjg59_ | I worry it'd be hard to formalise in a way that didn't have negative consequences | Mar 29 23:19 |
| leah | mjg59_: and existing permissive projects would be basically unaffected | Mar 29 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | In a way, proprietary software being copyrighted is good. | Mar 29 23:19 |
| leah | mjg59_: the law could take into account existing copyleft licenses under copyright | Mar 29 23:19 |
| mjg59_ | Anyway, I need to go and do teaching prep | Mar 29 23:19 |
| leah | and "assimilate" them | Mar 29 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually more buggy than Free Software, by 30-40%, something like that. | Mar 29 23:19 |
| leah | existing copyleft works would remain so, but under the new law | Mar 29 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Would you want it if you could use it? | Mar 29 23:20 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> Would you want it if you could use it <- if yo ucould use it, some of it could be fixed | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: hence the secrecy | Mar 29 23:20 |
| leah | mjg59_: oh, you teach now? | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | "our power is that we hide the loq quality and defects" | Mar 29 23:20 |
| leah | college students i mean | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | no incentive to improve that, either | Mar 29 23:20 |
| matey | granted most of it would just be abandoned | Mar 29 23:20 |
| mjg59_ | leah: Yeah I teach OS security at Berkeley | Mar 29 23:20 |
| leah | cool! | Mar 29 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Mary Jo Foley, before ZDNet went full shitpost. | Mar 29 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 2000 and the 56,000 bugs. | Mar 29 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | zdnet has made cuts | Mar 29 23:21 |
| leah | mjg59_: you're cool now. i automatically respect anyone who works in education | Mar 29 23:21 |
| leah | education is a noble profession | Mar 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many articles there anymore | Mar 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of their 'articles' are webspam | Mar 29 23:21 |
| mjg59_ | leah: I'm super part time, it's one class a week | Mar 29 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | No, bragging about how McDonalds will spy on people and make them more obese and cut jobs using "AI". | Mar 29 23:21 |
| matey | education is a noble profession <- in theory | Mar 29 23:21 |
| leah | ok | Mar 29 23:21 |
| mjg59_ | But they gave me an award for it, so that's nice | Mar 29 23:21 |
| leah | teaching is what i want to do, one day | Mar 29 23:22 |
| leah | just have to get an actual degree first | Mar 29 23:22 |
| leah | all my knowledge and skill is self-taught | Mar 29 23:22 |
| MinceR | 29 234150 < DaemonFC> You want to solve Climate Change? Easy. Change the fundamental nature of the universe so you can get more than 150 miles out of a battery car in winter. | Mar 29 23:22 |
| MinceR | just put a ZPM in it | Mar 29 23:22 |
| leah | put solar panels on every roof | Mar 29 23:23 |
| leah | the british government was doing that, back in 2010 | Mar 29 23:23 |
| matey | leah: before debian went stupid i was writing a curriculum for refurbishing used machines with debian | Mar 29 23:23 |
| leah | offering free solar panels to everyone | Mar 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | use solar panels to mold solar panels :-) | Mar 29 23:23 |
| mjg59_ | leah: Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about the degree - they're letting me do this despite my degrees being in genetics | Mar 29 23:23 |
| matey | for a nightclass. | Mar 29 23:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and use solar panels to mine the materials | Mar 29 23:23 |
| matey | i could have taught that without a degree | Mar 29 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Put solar panels on the sidewalks in San Francisco and then spray off the 50,000 piles of human shit per year so mjg59_ doesn't step in any by mistake. | Mar 29 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | use the human shit for the bus | Mar 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and feeds assembly line workers with chromophile [sic] | Mar 29 23:24 |
| leah | DaemonFC: actually, it's funny you mention that. have you ever noticed that bird poo never stains solar panels on peoples roofs | Mar 29 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | The #2 is coming in. I hope it doesn't leave skid marks! | Mar 29 23:24 |
| leah | it slides off | Mar 29 23:24 |
| matey | of course after systemd came through i threw the idea away | Mar 29 23:24 |
| leah | the material is made to actually not allow anything to stick to it | Mar 29 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the crispr patent pool will engineer some solar people for us | Mar 29 23:24 |
| leah | look at solar panels on roofs when it snows | Mar 29 23:25 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: Have you ever actually visited San Francisco? | Mar 29 23:25 |
| matey | they should put solar panels on cars | Mar 29 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I'm hungry, gonna go out to the sun now to bathe^H^H^Heast" | Mar 29 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | *east | Mar 29 23:25 |
| matey | car washes will go out of business | Mar 29 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> DaemonFC: Have you ever actually visited San Francisco? | Mar 29 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | >eat | Mar 29 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying not to. That's going well. | Mar 29 23:25 |
| mjg59_ | You seem to have a very strange idea about how much human shit there is lying around | Mar 29 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | The app logged a lot of piles of it. | Mar 29 23:25 |
| leah | mjg59_: i was just answering DaemonFC scientifically | Mar 29 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | And they had to put in port a potties to try to get the bums to go there. | Mar 29 23:26 |
| leah | no but, for real, put solar panels everywhere | Mar 29 23:26 |
| mjg59_ | It turns out that giving people access to toilets does actually result in more shit ending up in toilets | Mar 29 23:26 |
| leah | they're pretty robust these days, and should last a few decades before needing to be replaced | Mar 29 23:26 |
| matey | no but, for real, put solar panels everywhere <- yes | Mar 29 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, Thanks to the city app, the amount of human shit is pretty quantifiable. | Mar 29 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | It's even geolocatable. | Mar 29 23:26 |
| leah | put solar on every roof | Mar 29 23:26 |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: And you've compared that to other cities? | Mar 29 23:27 |
| leah | every business | Mar 29 23:27 |
| leah | every toaster | Mar 29 23:27 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> mjg59_, Thanks to the city app, the amount of human shit is pretty quantifiable. <- how does it | Mar 29 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | The shit has its own GPS coordinates. | Mar 29 23:27 |
| matey | are people "logging" it in? | Mar 29 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | That's how you know it's San Francisco. | Mar 29 23:27 |
| leah | solar panels on cars is a good idea too | Mar 29 23:27 |
| leah | charge the electric engine | Mar 29 23:27 |
| mjg59_ | matey: It's a general purpose app for users to report things that the city should fix | Mar 29 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> DaemonFC: And you've compared that to other cities? | Mar 29 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I have never seen a pile of shit on the sidewalk in Chicago. | Mar 29 23:27 |
| matey | mjg59_ oh okay | Mar 29 23:27 |
| leah | pretty much just... solar panels, and cut down on meat/dairy (huge polluter) | Mar 29 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | People even pick up after their dog. | Mar 29 23:28 |
| leah | should solve the climate crisis | Mar 29 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's literal shit in SF | Mar 29 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "SCOI" | Mar 29 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | SCO | Mar 29 23:28 |
| leah | and i think it's easily affordable | Mar 29 23:28 |
| leah | can wire up the solar panels to put electricity back on the grid too | Mar 29 23:28 |
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| matey | leah any idea what the ratio is like of beef: dairy industry in terms of pollution? | Mar 29 23:28 |
| leah | solar+ups | Mar 29 23:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: still need a lot of energy for winter | Mar 29 23:28 |
| matey | i know beef is awful | Mar 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to mine and assemble batteries | Mar 29 23:29 |
| leah | ups in your home | Mar 29 23:29 |
| leah | i used to work for a solar company | Mar 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to melt things with electric power | Mar 29 23:29 |
| leah | they put giant battery on your mains, that gets charged during the day | Mar 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's OK | Mar 29 23:29 |
| leah | at night, it runs off of that to power stuff. if that runs out, or solar doesn't generate enough, there's still electricity from the grid | Mar 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | for TVs and stuff | Mar 29 23:29 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the moment you use 1200 watt appliances it kills the battery fast | Mar 29 23:30 |
| bnchs | how much would a MIPS cpu last on a battery charged by a solar panel | Mar 29 23:30 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR | Mar 29 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | <mjg59_> matey: It's a general purpose app for users to report things that the city should fix | Mar 29 23:30 |
| leah | yeah but the way you set it up, you still get energy from the grid if the panels don't generate enough | Mar 29 23:30 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: it's completely automatic | Mar 29 23:30 |
| bnchs | fuck | Mar 29 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of shit that should be fixed there. | Mar 29 23:30 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: An R12000 would last a few minutes, probably | Mar 29 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | eloectric container shipping boats, planes, tankers don't do well on solar | Mar 29 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like the cost of living, and shit. | Mar 29 23:30 |
| bnchs | wrong tab sorry | Mar 29 23:30 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: oh well | Mar 29 23:30 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: "A MIPS" doesn't tell you much - there's a whole range of power consumption depending on the specific chip | Mar 29 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: they're almost like pocket calculators | Mar 29 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | if on idle | Mar 29 23:31 |
| mjg59_ | Back when SGI were still making MIPS machines, they chewed through a *lot* of power | Mar 29 23:31 |
| leah | solar and... wind turbines, hydroelectric if possible... and i guess nuclear (cleaner than using coal, but there's waste storage, plus uranium mining is... brutal. but nuclear is the lesser evil compared to coal) | Mar 29 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you spend more than $60,000 on a house, it should be well over 1,800 square feet, with three bedrooms and an attached garage, on 2 acres of land. | Mar 29 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | making many assumptions | Mar 29 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | And the property tax shouldn't be more than $550 a year. | Mar 29 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | floods, wartime etc. | Mar 29 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: we need to lower energy consumption | Mar 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Only the fucking stupid liberals could ruin the American Dream. | Mar 29 23:33 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: that too | Mar 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the simplest way is, to put it bluntly | Mar 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | They've proven that. | Mar 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | lessen population size | Mar 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | If you have any Biden Dollars, spend them while you can. | Mar 29 23:33 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: have solar/wind/hydroelectric powering everything, and nuclear as backup to fill the gap | Mar 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's bad for capitalism | Mar 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 30 million USians paying back 30 trillion in national debt | Mar 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like a million per citizen | Mar 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | I was talking to mom. I said I'm stocking up on food and supplies because they're stealing so much with inflation that you're better off with the provisions. | Mar 29 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a family of 4, it's $4,000,000 | Mar 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> for a family of 4, it's $4,000,000 | Mar 29 23:34 |
| bnchs | mjg59_: lets just say they're a 333Mhz boardcom MIPS cpu (BCM7356) | Mar 29 23:34 |
| matey | presumably if you have an amicable way of reducing the global population | Mar 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Marketwatch be like: How to get by on $4,000,000 a year when you still feel broke! | Mar 29 23:34 |
| matey | you can also get them to forgive each other trillions in debt | Mar 29 23:35 |
| matey | since the value of the _________ is imaginary anyway | Mar 29 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I pick blueberries on Thursdays and my wife vagazzles labradoodles. Our home budget, $4 million. | Mar 29 23:35 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722 | Mar 29 23:35 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: Do you mean 7346? | Mar 29 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters | Mar 29 23:35 | |
| DaemonFC | House Hunters Shit Francisco | Mar 29 23:35 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: In any case, stuff like that is probably drawing ~2W - you could run it for a long time (but that's also true of low power x86) | Mar 29 23:36 |
| techrights-news | The UK and US have such bot farms, too https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ukriane-russia-bot-farm-disinformation/ | Mar 29 23:37 |
| -altlink_63e/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ukriane-russia-bot-farm-disinformation/ | Mar 29 23:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ukraine security agency shuts down 5 Russian bot farms • The Register | Mar 29 23:37 | |
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| matey | /me proposes making chips more efficient by removing intel me | Mar 29 23:37 |
| techrights-news | Misinformation/Disinformation is NOT a Russian inventiob. | Mar 29 23:37 |
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| bnchs | mjg59_ 7325* | Mar 29 23:38 |
| matey | /me and by installing a better boot logo | Mar 29 23:38 |
| mjg59_ | matey: ME is really not a meaningful part of the power consumption, although I'd be happy to see it fuck off | Mar 29 23:38 |
| bnchs | matey: intel me is not part of the CPU? | Mar 29 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | waste of transistors | Mar 29 23:38 |
| matey | /me proposes it regardless of actual savings, like most green energy projects | Mar 29 23:38 |
| leah | i have to wonder if intel me violates the computer misuse act in the uk | Mar 29 23:39 |
| matey | those laws are only for mortals | Mar 29 23:39 |
| leah | you don't sign a contract that says you accept what the me is doing to you | Mar 29 23:39 |
| bnchs | yeah | Mar 29 23:39 |
| leah | most people aren't aware it even exists | Mar 29 23:39 |
| bnchs | intel me is rarely documented | Mar 29 23:39 |
| bnchs | it would be illegal | Mar 29 23:39 |
| mjg59_ | leah: What aspects of it are you thinking of in that respect? | Mar 29 23:40 |
| leah | computer misuse act is the act that says you can't, like, backdoor someone or access their computer without permission | Mar 29 23:40 |
| leah | right? | Mar 29 23:40 |
| matey | when companies like intel run afoul of the law, they usually just rewrite the laws | Mar 29 23:40 |
| mjg59_ | Right, but by default ME isn't listening to the network (it *could*, it just isn't) | Mar 29 23:40 |
| techrights-news | If SUSE or OpenSUSE believes this will bring more contributors, than it's ill-advised https://news.opensuse.org/2022/03/29/os-finalizes-new-coc/ | Mar 29 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE Finalizes New Code of Conduct - openSUSE News | Mar 29 23:40 | |
| leah | mjg59_: how do you know that | Mar 29 23:41 |
| MinceR | 30 002733 < DaemonFC> That's how you know it's San Francisco. | Mar 29 23:41 |
| *psydruid doesn't think documenting Intel me is necessary, it just needs to be eradicated | Mar 29 23:41 | |
| mjg59_ | leah: The ME firmware isn't encrypted (it's encoded with a weird Hufmann table, but that's been REd) | Mar 29 23:41 |
| MinceR | i guess budapest has too many dog turds to fit in such a database | Mar 29 23:41 |
| leah | 5mb of secret sauce connected is very sus | Mar 29 23:41 |
| mjg59_ | leah: So people have spent a bunch of time pulling that apart and have found no evidence (but have found other vulnerabilities at various poitns) | Mar 29 23:42 |
| MinceR | amogus | Mar 29 23:42 |
| leah | 5mb of secret sauce connected to the internet | Mar 29 23:42 |
| bnchs | sus | Mar 29 23:42 |
| bnchs | amogus | Mar 29 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: gypsy king is the biggest one | Mar 29 23:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 29 23:42 |
| leah | mjg59_: yeah i'm familiar with me_cleaner's work | Mar 29 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | putin put him in a small bag | Mar 29 23:42 |
| mjg59_ | Intel *could* have put a backdoor in at the silicon level, but then so could any other ethernet vendor | Mar 29 23:42 |
| mjg59_ | It's possible, but we have no evidence of it | Mar 29 23:43 |
| leah | yet | Mar 29 23:43 |
| mjg59_ | Sure | Mar 29 23:43 |
| MinceR | afaik other ethernet interfaces lack that level of access to the rest of the system, though | Mar 29 23:43 |
| bnchs | i dont get people's method of avoiding intel me | Mar 29 23:43 |
| matey | mincer: maybe, maybe not if we consider what a number of implants can do | Mar 29 23:43 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: Ethernet controllers can DMA, so until you have IOMMU enabled (which most Linux distros still don't do by default) they have pretty equivalent levels of access | Mar 29 23:43 |
| bnchs | (just dont use ethernet) | Mar 29 23:43 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-2204-ryzen5950x&num=1 | Mar 29 23:44 |
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| bnchs | i mean first of all | Mar 29 23:44 |
| schestowitz | you need Ryzen to run a sub-1GB system? | Mar 29 23:44 |
| matey | <bnchs> (just dont use ethernet) <- lol | Mar 29 23:44 |
| leah | mjg59_: and in light of spectre/meltdown, iommu is kinda broken | Mar 29 23:44 |
| bnchs | even if you used wifi | Mar 29 23:44 |
| leah | but there are mitigations | Mar 29 23:44 |
| bnchs | it would still manage to connect to the servers | Mar 29 23:44 |
| bnchs | since the wifi card is authenicated in the entire system | Mar 29 23:44 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: And even if you do have a working IOMMU setup, the SKBs that the ethernet controller is given access to contain function pointers, so you can still just generate arbitrary code exec in the kernel by pointing those elsewhere | Mar 29 23:45 |
| MinceR | great | Mar 29 23:45 |
| mjg59_ | MinceR: At some level we just have to trust hardware | Mar 29 23:45 |
| mjg59_ | Libre hardware obviously buys us something there | Mar 29 23:45 |
| MinceR | every day it sounds more like we should just nuke this entire industry and start over from scratch | Mar 29 23:45 |
| MinceR | it's a fractal of shit | Mar 29 23:45 |
| bnchs | "ethernet connector" | Mar 29 23:46 |
| leah | i'm going to bed | Mar 29 23:46 |
| bnchs | "function pointers" | Mar 29 23:46 |
| bnchs | wait wait wait | Mar 29 23:46 |
| bnchs | you're saying that the controller has access to the CPU? | Mar 29 23:46 |
| techrights-news | Vulkan Beta Driver Release Updates https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver "March 29th, 2022 - Windows 473.33, Linux 470.62.26" | Mar 29 23:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.nvidia.com | Vulkan Driver Support | NVIDIA Developer | Mar 29 23:46 | |
| MinceR | it has access to RAM, via DMA | Mar 29 23:46 |
| matey | <MinceR> it's a fractal of shit <- hungarian/san franciscan hybrid shit | Mar 29 23:46 |
| bnchs | so how does it point to those function pointers | Mar 29 23:46 |
| leah | mjg59_: i trust hardware in general, more than software | Mar 29 23:46 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: The structure that contains ethernet packets in Linux also contains function pointers that the kernel should call after the packet transmission is complete (for example) | Mar 29 23:46 |
| leah | it's more difficult to backdoor hardware | Mar 29 23:46 |
| leah | it's cheaper to mess with software | Mar 29 23:47 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: There's no inherent need for the ethernet controller to have access to the rest of the data in that structure, but it does | Mar 29 23:47 |
| bnchs | oh | Mar 29 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: also easier to remotely modify the s/w | Mar 29 23:47 |
| bnchs | so its useless | Mar 29 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | sans microcode | Mar 29 23:47 |
| MinceR | apparently the US government + megacorporations can afford to backdoor hardware | Mar 29 23:47 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: So a hostile ethernet controller can just change where that function pointer points, and then after the packet is transmitted the kernel will just follow it to wherever the controller pointed it | Mar 29 23:47 |
| bnchs | oh i get it | Mar 29 23:47 |
| bnchs | how do you think of preventing this | Mar 29 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | many machines now come with 2 OSes | Mar 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | phones do | Mar 29 23:48 |
| bnchs | make a seperate struct? | Mar 29 23:48 |
| psydruid | schestowitz, Ryzen performance is very welcome but not how much power it needs, I find that I can overall do many things with 1-2 GB, but the (very low-end for modern times) processor is a bit of a bottleneck | Mar 29 23:48 |
| mjg59_ | So if you know the kernel layout, you can trick the kernel into executing halfway into a function (or something) and modify the security state of the kernel | Mar 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | one for tower | Mar 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then ME/PSP | Mar 29 23:48 |
| mjg59_ | bnchs: Yeah, though that would have a major performance impact | Mar 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft also bought a company | Mar 29 23:48 |
| mjg59_ | Wouldn't matter for most people, but high network traffic services would take a lot more CPU | Mar 29 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they get to control lots of embedded stuff this way | Mar 29 23:48 |
| psydruid | > every day it sounds more like we should just nuke this entire industry and start over from scratch | Mar 29 23:49 |
| psydruid | > it's a fractal of shit | Mar 29 23:49 |
| psydruid | we *must* do it, there is no alternative | Mar 29 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | or to lie about the reach of azure by branding the new company "azure" | Mar 29 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | calling an OS that | Mar 29 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | OS that did not even develop but bought in 2019 | Mar 29 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: not just indutry | Mar 29 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | also many protocols | Mar 29 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. www | Mar 29 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | or w3c/html/http(s) | Mar 29 23:50 |
| psydruid | and the worst part is that academics are in on this agenda, as active low likes to say | Mar 29 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | look who sponsors universities | Mar 29 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they prepare pupils/studentd for "the real world" | Mar 29 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | "industry skills" | Mar 29 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | IDEs | Mar 29 23:51 |
| matey | unfortunately its difficult to explain the behaviour of academics without sullying the various professions of sex workers | Mar 29 23:51 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR: epic gaymes sponsors programming schools aswell | Mar 29 23:52 |
| bnchs | they prepare students for unreal engine | Mar 29 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | Mar 29 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are not "game development" degrees | Mar 29 23:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually in not-so-good unis | Mar 29 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | they get called "colleges" | Mar 29 23:53 |
| bnchs | a true uni would teach the students to use graphics API and make their own engine | Mar 29 23:53 |
| activelow | i want be able to design hardware (and software) with pencil and paper; every single transistor | Mar 29 23:53 |
| bnchs | not micro$oft directx | Mar 29 23:53 |
| bnchs | but opengl | Mar 29 23:53 |
| matey | https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/game-development-and-design | Mar 29 23:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-polytechnic.purdue.edu | Game Development and Design Degree | Purdue University | Mar 29 23:53 | |
| matey | harvard has courses but i dont know what degree they offer. | Mar 29 23:54 |
| bnchs | the only programs i've seen use framebuffer software rendering entirely was for embedded software | Mar 29 23:54 |
| bnchs | like frontend for a receiver box | Mar 29 23:54 |
| bnchs | these usually have no GPUs | Mar 29 23:55 |
| bnchs | just stating, i've seen people here say opengl is bad and use SW rendering | Mar 29 23:57 |
| matey | https://www.cs.usc.edu/academic-programs/masters/game-development/ | Mar 29 23:57 |
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