Bonum Certa Men Certa

This Holiday Season Dump Companies That Offload Everything to Skinnerbox "Apps", Un-Encrypted E-mail, and 'Webapps' (Proprietary JS Applications in 'Web Site' Clothing)

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Nov 27, 2024

Smartphone User

Society is getting worse in the way it treats customers because more companies do not treat customers at all, or just barely (if customers find the right tree to bark under). It's basically a race to the bottom because "everyone is doing it" or "they're all the same". They don't serve customers, they don't even listen to customers, and sometimes they let them play "games" on phone menus (voice menus that tell them site addresses to visit instead, usually because "it's easier online," according to them or their read-only bot - reading a mindless and dishonest script) and - worst of all! - chatbots. It's a sort of collective gaslighting which leaves more people unemployed, as jobs get eliminated despite them being very much necessary (appreciated and much-needed by customers). The queues on the line gradually get longer to discourage human interaction and increase phone bills (while employing fewer people whose workload is untenable and whose callers are more rude/impatient because they waited on the queue for ages). The Cybershow spoke about this in many past episodes and hours ago it published a new episode about efforts to replace musicians with CG junk, derived from entire catalogues and disguised as "AI" rather than mass plagiarism. Have a listen; I did...

Today I received a message after I had canceled an insurance policy (having had enough after more than a decade). I asked for paper confirmation, but thus far they only sent an E-mail that seems very generic and thus probably automated, not even personalised except 2-3 'fields'/'text tokens'. To quote:

Dear Doctor Schestowitz

We wanted to let you know that we’ve cancelled your Home Insurance, as requested. We can confirm that the policy’s been cancelled with effect from 29 December 2024.

We’re sorry we had to decline your claim, but sometimes we can’t avoid this.

If you’re due a refund, we’ll be in touch within the next 7 days, explaining how and when you’ll receive this.

We hope you’ve found the cover that’s just right for your home elsewhere.

If you’d like to tell us more about why you’re leaving please let us know and we hope you’ll consider us for your home insurance needs in the future.

If you’ve got any questions or need any help please contact us using the details below.

Thanks

RSA Customer Services Team on behalf of Nationwide

Signed by "RSA Customer Services Team", but was this written by an actual team member?

The message is moreover spyware; all the links go to some tokenised tracker URLs at http://williamsleatag-emails.wlt.com/ and there are embedded elements in the message (HotLinking in an E-mail that's a Web page or HTML pretending to be E-mail). There are also broken links. This is sheer incompetence and disrespect/arrogance towards clients' dignity. They even spy on their cancellation E-mail.

Notice how they didn't write anything about reasons, they just plugged in the date and name in a genetic template. It's very likely no actual person even bothered to review this E-mail. Is there any point or purpose for a human reading it? Sentences that say (for example) "If you’d like to tell us more about why you’re leaving" suggest they don't know why; I spent a long time explaining that to them already. So they ask me to sort of communicate with their bots (maybe for reasons to be textually scanned and summed up in bland statistics, then converted into a mere number in a tally for a pie chart). It's like nobody listens and interacts here.

Home insurance will be resumed with another company, but I probably should have done this years ago. Are other companies better? Maybe not. Maybe this is "normal" now... the standards have been lowered, unlike costs. Their fiscal surplus is your agony/mistreatment/free labour/time-wasting. They shift or 'offload' (outsource to the client) all the work. This is unfair and it lowers productivity in society (people less specialised doing all the work very slowly). Imagine them telling you, "build your own home, we'll send you the materials and instructions, just pay us a fee for it..."

I did not record our 36-minute conversation, but a lot of it was just voice menus and me being passed around between 3 "real people" to politely discuss my honest concerns with their (dis)service. Of course they have a nagging "retention" department (sometimes they call it "loyalty", not "cancellations"... too negative a word apparently, describing gatekeepers blocking the exit); it's meant to tire customers down (or cool them down by slowing them down, changing emotions/sentiments); they train people to do this, passing burden and blame to alter narratives post hoc.

An anecdote here is that this British insurance provider/company hid the option of snail mail, but eventually said yes (they said wait 10 days even though mail takes 1-2 days to arrive, so they probably batch and automate it to bulk-send), albeit only when we explicitly requested it; they don't like paper trails, except for themselves, as that puts in a position of disadvantage the customer. Same for pension providers, in my experience (which was documented here last year). This is grotesque, more so than offloading things to so-called "hey hi" (AI) in order to escape liability/accountability.

Are people meant to interact with E-mail bots? Is that what things nowadays boil down to? Customers wasting time interacting with opaque algorithms? It's like people having to deal with Windows botnets that spew out spam, except this is being done by large and supposedly "reputable" companies that have official registrations and managers with 6- or 7-figure salaries.

There's an even bigger blunder or widespread phenomenon here, albeit lurking somewhere in the details.

Another one instance is, British banks keep telling customers that some services are "online-only", but if one insists, then suddenly that's no longer the case. They do that in branch, too, albeit typically with unhappy faces (like asking for actual service is verboten and frowned upon). "Online" is not about speed. Any mistakes make? Blame the customer. Zero risk for the bank and its workers, who can always blame the customer after doing something he or she isn't even trained to do (and probably never experienced before). Some people I spoke to last week theorise that throwing people onto apps and online GUIs may also mean they cannot negotiate or haggle, e.g. play off one bank against another or seek a better deal/rate. It's a blackbox of bad choices and dark patterns (online and in apps). Banks without branches or without in-branch services must be avoided and let to fail (as a business). Only that way we stand a chance of rescuing what was once known as "customer service" rather than bot disservice.

Many banks do not offer insurance policies; they're just resellers for the likes of RSA. So even "small" or "local" banks basically relay you to Wall Street (another country/continent) under some other branding.

Other Recent Techrights' Posts

Invitation to General Assembly After 1,200 EPO Workers Participated in the Demonstration 3 Days Ago
"the strike of 19 March was also very well followed."
SLAPP Censorship - Part 17 Out of 200: A Long Track Record of Online Abuse, Then Choosing a Low-Cost Law Firm to Muzzle People Who Have Illuminated This Abuse for Over a Decade
Censorship by targeting ISPs and webhosts isn't unprecedented
Symptom of Publishers Dying: They Move to Adopt Slop. Symptom of Software Companies Dying: They Move to Adopt Slop ('Vibe').
It'll always fail. It's hype. It's a bubble.
Under IBM, Red Hat Replaces Code With LLM Slop, Fedora is Slopware
Not even hiding it, those things are in plain sight
 
HSBC the Latest Failed Bank Using Slop as Excuse for Its Financial Failure
"HSBC is planning on cutting as many as 20,000 jobs in the near future as the company allies with AI revolution."
A/Prof Susan G Kleinmann, Enkelena Haxhija & Debian-private risk to MIT
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 20, 2026
IRC logs for Friday, March 20, 2026
Plagiarism in "Linux" Clothing (LLM Slop in linuxiac.com, LinuxTeck.com, and linuxsecurity.com)
The net effect of those slopfarms is very negative
Links 20/03/2026: Facebook Weaponised Politically, Openwashing by LF and NVIDIA, Encyclopedia Britannica Sues Microsoft Proxy for Plagiarism
Links for the day
The EPO's Local Staff Committee Munich (LSCMN) Explains to the Administrative Council (AC) How Bad Things Have Become at Europe's Second-Largest Institution, Biggest Patent Office, and Corruption/Cocaine Hub (Jobs Sold to Friends)
We'll say a bit more tomorrow
IBM's Red Hat Diversity: Only 3 Women (Out of 11 Leaders)
For comparison's sake, the FSF is about 50% female
Gemini Links 20/03/2026: Depictions of Culture and The Social Smolnet
Links for the day
SimilarWeb Was Never a Reliable Yardstick for Traffic
5RB may need some "house-cleaning"
Strangulation, suffocation, Jonathan Carter & Debian toxic culture confirmed
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Reports or Hearsay Suggest Ogilvy Broke Up With IBM and Insiders Report Mass Layoffs in "Infrastructure" (Might Impact Red Hat Entrants)
hearsay in Social Control Media
Scheduled Server Maintenance Tomorrow Night
Starting 9PM
None of the Above (NotA) & Debian snubbing Sruthi Chandran
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 20/03/2026: Cryptography Pioneers Win Turing Award and BMG Sues Anthropic for Copyright Infringement
Links for the day
Even Uganda Understands That Journalists Never Belong in Prison
"Ugandan authorities must respect the spirit of this ruling and abandon any measures that seek to jail Ugandans for the free flow of ideas."
Inaction Helps Your Enemies
Without freedom, there's nothing else left
Windows Down From 99% to ~50% in Republic of Seychelles (République des Seychelles)
Windows fell by a lot
"systemd is essentially a corporate IBM/Redhat project and corporations of course will comply"
Microsoft and IBM care about users' freedom like Cheeto Lump cares about the US Constitution
Confluent Insiders: IBM Laid Over Over 800 at Confluent, Not Just 800
For the record, the layoffs at Confluent won't be over. After the bluewashing there will be "IBM RAs" impacting Confluent folks, aside from PIPs
The Layoffs at IBM Carry on (Shades of Enron)
Is IBM another Enron?
"IBM boss Arvind Krishna... financial package valued at $38 million in calendar 2025 - equivalent to the average collective pay of 765 Big Blue workers."
continues to ruin the company to enrich himself while pretending he has a strategy
Gemini Links 20/03/2026: Digital Identity Bifurcation and a "Return to Gemini"
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 19, 2026
IRC logs for Thursday, March 19, 2026
SLAPP Censorship - Part 16 Out of 200: Detailing the Actors and Explaining Techrights' Own Internet Relay Chat (IRC) Network
For those who have not followed our story
Microsoft "hiding behind bigger news of war, Epstein, other companies' layoffs"
They know what's coming, they just don't know when
Joerg Jaspert (Debian Account Manager/DAM) personally approved Raphael Hertzog's wife Sophie Brun
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Letter 'A' prohibited by Code of Conduct extremism
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Spoiler: Diversity & Debian means different things to different people
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) Admits Failures and Criticism of Inaction on SLAPPs
many if not all solicitors and solicitor firms in the UK are in effect unregulated
Archiving or Preserving Pages About IBM Layoffs
Layoffs at IBM and the media does not talk about these
ABC, the American National Broadcaster, "Now Publishes Slop"
If the "big media" absorbs slop, it'll no longer be trusted and therefore not read/watched by the public
Links 19/03/2026: Culling Deepfakes of Artists’ Music and "Age Verification Isn’t the Answer"
Links for the day
Gemini Links 19/03/2026: "Aktion GPT-4" and "Kill All Descendants"
Links for the day
"AI" 15 Times in Short 'Article' From The Register MS. And The Register MS Got Paid to Publish It.
gets paid to do this
People Who Decided to Boycott Novell Over Its Microsoft Alliance Should Also Boycott Canonical
As an associate put it, "selling out further, due to Microsoft moles inside Canonical"
Links 19/03/2026: "AI Glasses" as Euphemism for Mass Surveillance and ABC (US) Has Begun Publishing Slop as 'News'
Links for the day
The European Patent Office, Europe's Second-Largest Institution, is on Strike Today
Lots more to come
What People Impacted by the Bluewashing Layoffs at IBM Confluent Say (While the Media Says Nothing at All, in Effect Burying the News)
Worse yet, the mainstream media spreads lies about it right now
IBM Has Turned Red Hat and Fedora Into Slop
This is IBM policy
IBM is Being Robbed, Companies and Jobs Are Destroyed
Companies taken over by IBM will be exploited and destroyed to keep a bubble inflated for a little while longer
In Confluent Layoffs, IBM Vapourises a Quarter of Its Workforce (IBM Buys Something That It Destroys Already)
In the past, such things were typically referred to as "media blackout"; now it's just "the norm".
IBM Effect at Confluent: Mass Layoffs and IBM's Business Conduct Guidelines (BCGs) Said to be Violated
For Confluent employees who survived the layoffs there will be "culture chock"
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 18, 2026
IRC logs for Wednesday, March 18, 2026
Links 19/03/2026: LLM Fatigue (It Doesn't Work as Advertised), "Small Web Feeds"
Links for the day