Bonum Certa Men Certa

LLM Hype (Chatbots Hyped and Wrongly Characterised as "Artificial Intelligence") Cause Net Inflation

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Feb 04, 2025

Net as in Internet, not limited to the Web*

Context: It Looks Like BetaNews' Managing Editor Wayne Williams is Taking Over From Fagioli After Repeat Pattern of LLM Slop (State-of-the-Art Plagiarism) About "Linux"

Fetterman Debt Ceiling

If you drown out the signal with noise, then eventually all you'll end up with is noise (first a little noise that can be filtered out of view, then majority noise, then an impractical search for a needle in a noise-stack).

The US (to use an analogy) cannot just print its way out of crisis. Minting more dollar bills/coins (as long as it's a de facto universal currency) does not create real value and borrowing more and more money (usually from foreign lenders who then exercise control over the borrowers) is basically like kicking the can down the road to delay consequences. The consequences get worse over time. The borrower acts against itself (to appease lenders).

On the Web (or any other protocol), adding more and more words (or generating images by fusing/joining together existing work) does not create real value, it just lowers the quality of everything, on average. Brute force alone does not create value if done the 'cryptocurrency' way - basically a glorified NFT in which even heads of state now participate (because they receive bribes from 'cryptocurrency' bros).

Remember FTX? That didn't end well for savers, did it?

In the case of the Net (not just the Web, some people put LLM slop in E-mail), if there's a large deluge of machine-generated garbage, we'll lose our ability to speak, think, or process accurate information. That's partly why we worry about sites spewing out fake 'articles' about "Linux", "security", or both. We limit ourselves, scope-wise, to a quantity we can keep abreast of, but the problem is vastly bigger and it gets worse as time goes by or as hype goes on.

In order to avoid a collapse (of human knowledge) we all need to campaign against "chatbots" misused as something other than a toy. There's no "AI arms race", that's just an excuse for seeking more bailouts, as we saw last month (Scam Altman trying to play with other people's money).

Chatbots aren't new; image fusion isn't new either (I saw that 2 decades ago). Only the hype is new. It contributes to bad behaviour online. It ruins what used to be not perfect but at least acceptable. SEO gamers already ruin search engines, which became little but propaganda disguised as discoverability.

An associate reminds us that chatbots cannot produce news either, they cannot even summarise news, at that. Readers of ours can see last week's Daily Links on "summarize vs shorten". Things falsely marketed as LLM summaries (even by Mozilla now) are basically just culling information, without any comprehension of the text they parse and then shorten. Likewise, regarding things such as the "AI-generated" (not!) videos that we explained last month and the image fusion comment made above, those create nothing new, they just "borrow" from many places and then do some 'fusion' (like a surgical but digital embedment). This is a topic which could be expanded upon in the future, as we mostly focus on text today. But again, image fusion isn't novel, it's just some online 'cargo cults' playing with endless budgets (i.e. money to be lost). As Cory Doctorow explained it about a year ago: "Like Uber, the massive investor subsidies for AI have produced a sugar high of temporarily satisfied users. Fooling around feeding prompts to an image genera­tor or a large language model can be fun, and playful communities have sprung up around these subsidized, free-to-use tools (less savory communities have also come together to produce nonconsensual pornography, fraud materials, and hoaxes)."

Don't even obsess over the edge cases, such as "nonconsensual pornography" (above). Even just seemingly innocent "AI" articles can do a lot of harm. BetaNews uses both LLM slop and image fusion (slop). It competes with real writers using pure junk that's often cleverly plagiarised (based on the original authors' texts).

Gee, 90% of my site is now LLM slop. I cannot even figure out where the real articles are. So my real work is worthless.

_____

* A lot of people conflate the two and cannot distinguish between a Web browser and "the Internet"; even E-mail is "webmail" to a lot of people, i.e. just "some Web site" with a "webapp". An associate said that "maybe [we can] list some of the non-WWW protocols by name and mention that there are many more, all of which help comprise the Internet." Gemini Protocol is one of these and as far as we can see it has not yet been targeted by LLM slop, maybe only LLM harvesting (someone wrote about this suspicion last week).

Other Recent Techrights' Posts

Slopwatch: Brian Fagioli, Google News, and Other LLM Slopfarms
Why does Google News keep promoting these fake articles?
Links 29/10/2025: Amazon Kept "Data Center Water Use Secret", "Abuse of Power" Against Media
Links for the day
Gemini Links 29/10/2025: "My Hardware Specs" and "Goodbye Debian…"
Links for the day
EPO Cocainegate: Feedback and Clarifications
Part III will come out soon
Links 29/10/2025: "US Military Is Destroying the Planet Beyond Imagination" and Boat Strikes Deemed Unlawful
Links for the day
Quality Comes First (Techrights Search)
It's generally working already, but we wish to polish it some more
Techrights Party Countdown
Late next week we'll be holding a party near our home
European Parliament and Council Directive on Privacy is Vanishing
"edited / censored some time more recently"
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 28, 2025
IRC logs for Tuesday, October 28, 2025
Slopwatch: The March of Slopfarms, From UbuntuPIT to Linux Journal and to Various Fake Sites Still Promoted by Google News
It's so worrying to see what the Web has become
Links 29/10/2025: CISA, Ukraine, and Amazon Problems
Links for the day
[Teaser] The EPO's Spokesperson, a Cocaine User, Fancies Young Women
How's that for "optics" in the EU and Europe's second-largest institution?
How Will António Campinos Respond to the EPO's 'Cocainegate'?
That's the same thing we saw and still see when the press deals with enablers and partners of Jeffrey Epstein
Join Us Now and Share the News - Part IV: There Cannot be Free Software Without Free Press and Free Information
One day, one can hope, more people will recognise that for Software Freedom we need free press and free thinkers
Join Us Now and Share the News - Part III: Principled Stance Is Never Cheap
Protecting the truth and insisting that the general public is made aware of things that really happened isn't cheap
Join Us Now and Share the News - Part II: Because Scarcity of Accurate Information Breeds Collective Ignorance
we too will strive to share information that's aggressively suppressed
Gemini Links 28/10/2025: More New Arrivals at Geminispace, xkcd on "Document Forgery"
Links for the day
Join Us Now and Share the News - Part I: Defence of the Truth
This year we make a very strong, firm statement for truth, even if that means explaining our work to the top media judge in the country
Links 28/10/2025: Meta and Fentanylware (CheeTok) Age-Restricted Down Under, "Britain Needs China’s Money"
Links for the day
Links 28/10/2025: Mass Layoffs at Amazon and Charter to Cut 1,200 Jobs
Links for the day
The Cocaine Patent Office - Part II: The Person Who Planted Paid-for Fake News for the European Patent Office (EPO) is a Cocaine User, Friend of António Campinos, Now on Record as Having Been Arrested
Background: High-level manager at the European Patent Office caught in public with cocaine, arrested
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 27, 2025
IRC logs for Monday, October 27, 2025
Google News Drowning in Slop (and Slopfarms That Hijack About Half the Results)
Google News seems to be drowning in this stuff
Gemini Links 28/10/2025: "How to Maximize Your Positive Impact" and ASCII Art and Artist Attribution
Links for the day
PETA and Activism
Being staff or volunteer in PETA isn't easy
Big Blue, Huge Debt
debt will soar again
Links 27/10/2025: Mass Surveillance Sold as "AI", People Reluctant to Lose Physical Media
Links for the day
Parties and Milestones Again
we've begun putting up about 40 balloons
Techrights' 19th Anniversary: Bronze
Time to go back to preparing for this anniversary
Our Latest European Patent Office (EPO) Series Will Last Several Weeks, Will Ask the EPO Management and the European Union (EU) Very Difficult Questions
If nobody loses a job (or jobs) over this, then the EU basically became no better than Colombia or Nicaragua
Slopwatch: LinuxSecurity, UbuntuPIT, Brian Fagioli, and Google News
We focus on stories that are fake or LLM slop that disguises itself as "news" about Linux
Links 27/10/2025: Wikipedia Vandalism, Bruce Perens Opens up on Childhood
Links for the day
This Site Could Not be Done by LLMs Even If It Wanted to (Because It's Not a Parrot of What Other Sites Say)
LLMs have no knowledge or deep understanding
Microsoft is Disloyal Towards Its Most Loyal Employees
Against its most faithful enablers
19 Years, No Censorship
No factual information is ever going to be removed, more so if it is in the public interest
We Are Not a Conventional Site, That's Why They Hate (or Love) Us
Throughout the week this week we'll be focusing on the EPO
Following the Line of Cocaine All the Way to the Top
Even a million denials and spin-doctoring won't distract from the core issue
The Cocaine Patent Office - Part I: António Campinos Brought Corruption and Nepotism to the EPO, Then Came the Cocaine
High-level manager at the European Patent Office (EPO) caught in public with cocaine, the Office has some answering to do
Purchasing/Possessing Computers Isn't the Same as Controlling Computers
Let's strive to put computers back under the control of their users, no matter who purchased these (usually the users)
Gemini Links 27/10/2025: Alhena 5.4.3 and Fixing Bash
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 26, 2025
IRC logs for Sunday, October 26, 2025
Thankfully We've Made Copies of More Interesting Data From statCounter
If statCounter (the Web site or the 'webapp') vanished overnight, we'd still have something left of it
More Silent Layoffs at IBM/Red Hat
when the media counts such layoffs or presents tallies the numbers are very incomplete