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On Claims That After Bluewashing Red Hat Will Increasingly Become an Indian Company

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Sep 18, 2025

Recent: Red Hat News About De Facto Mass Layoffs (Bluewashing) Gone From Reddit (Censored by Gatekeepers), Still Online in The Register | The Bluewashing of Red Hat is Being Completed, Many Staff Understand They'll be Made Redundant

Older: IBM Makes Staff Cuts, Lots of Activity in Threads About Red Hat Layoffs (or 'Bluewashing') | Bluewashing Ends DEI at IBM and at Red Hat (HR or Hiring Become Gender- and Race-Neutral) | Bluewashing: IBM Replaces Red Hat With IBM (Bobby Leibrock) at the Top

Discussed this week (long and detailed): Facts Don't Lie. IBM currently has 600% more job openings in India than the USA | 'India Is The Workforce For The World', Asserts McKinsey & Company's Top Brass | Any insight on the fall RA? (Layoffs)

There's a lot going on in the IBM thelayoff.com forums and it's a lot less racist than it used to be (they censor many comments, or merely "moderate" anything that criticises a female manager).

4 hours ago someone brought up Red Hat: "Two changes have occurred since IBM purchased Redhat, BUT they are fundamental in understanding how IBM manages the business. 1. IBM will purchase innovation vs developing it in house. 2. Costs are everything, and must be driven to the absolute lowest no matter the consequences. This is all you need to know. Look at any IBM decision since 2019 and ask yourself Did IBM buy innovation (cost of purchase doesn’t matter as IBM will make it up in being a distributor) and what costs were impacted by that innovation decision (eg could they lower existing legacy costs with the new purchased innovation via outsourcing , offshoring, partnering, layoffs, pip, etc etc The answer to both of these questions is easy since 2019. IBM did both, and the consequences were devastating to the existing workforce. NOTE the repetitive workforce in India will feel this pain going forward as AI is just an excuse to lower costs. Will the skilled workforce in India grow? Of course because they cost less (approx 1/3 vs first world skills) There you have it IBM’s go forward strategy for the next 2-5 years.
Offshore repetitive and/or skill".

Prior comments do not mention Red Hat and many do mention India and China, mostly India (some allude to what Canada is doing). "That's how it is today with H1B and PERM and it's the reason why 80% of jobs posted on LinkedIn are fake jobs that the poster has no intention of filling with a new hire American," somebody said 7 hours ago. "It's too easily gamed, we need to do much more to stop our middle class from being destroyed."

And "they will spend a fortune on lawyers to find loopholes," someone said, "thank goodness the money wasn't spent on actual employees [...] that would create something new and useful".

Another thread talks about upcoming or ongoing layoffs (still active). "Any insight on the fall RA?" somebody asked a day ago. "Feel like it should’ve happened by now. Don’t put it past them to do it during the holidays because they’re disgusting animals, but still, weird that it hasn’t happened yet. Pretty much every BU facing huge budget cites next year. They waiting for Q?"

"I am impacted," one person says, speaking about "F&O."

Minutes ago someone said, "sorry to hear that, know if others are impacted?"

Most people keep quiet, afraid of getting 'caught'. Most do not read these forums, either.

5 hours ago by Anonymous: "Just got out in time and accepted another position before getting put on a PIP. Last year was 100% club ...top 2 in my team. This year, IQP plan changed and most of the team will be put on plan. Way to drive the good people away IBM."

"PIPs save IBM money," another person had said, "so that's the direction of Alvind and his Pipmunks. Besides, do they have to give out WARN notifications in the US for PIPs?"

"They figured use all of the WARN loopholes too (to avoid bad publicity, etc), just like H1Bs," someone said.

This morning someone wrote: "They put a bunch of folks on PIP this quarter so that’s probably what’s happening in place of RAs".

This is what Red Hat will do to expensive staff: PIPs, RTO and "relocation".

Till they leave without compensation.

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