That's typical MS behaviour; software churn and upgrade treadmill. It is ironic in light of the IM wars of years ago when Microsoft complained about AOL's proprietary IM service and proposed IM interoperability. Of course, that didn't happen. I believe that Google's GTalk is the only one that uses an open standard IM protocol.
Diamond Wakizashi
2009-01-12 19:44:23
"MSN No Longer for GNU/Linux Users?"
That's fine with me! They want to lose even more users to Google? This sounds like another one of that crazed lunatic Ballmer's idiotic ideas.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 19:49:10
They must be aware of this problem by now.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 19:51:43
Update:
A minute ago (in IRC)...
<trmanco> :-P
<trmanco> LOL
<trmanco> msn got back online
<trmanco> wait, maybe I'm dreaming
<trmanco> no I'm not
<trmanco> it is back online
<trmanco> yep, people can confirm this
<trmanco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/316252 se the latest comments
<trmanco> see*
<trmanco> crappy servers :|
Diamond Wakizashi
2009-01-12 20:07:09
"crappy servers"
They are using their own nasty Windows garbageware?
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 20:21:26
Here's what it is:
(20:15:09) soap: current HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:15:07 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
trmanco
2009-01-12 20:22:35
@Diamond Wakizashi
Yes...
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:15:07 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
Diamond Wakizashi
2009-01-12 20:27:33
Their IT people probably wish they could use Linux. The Windows garbageware is making their jobs much more difficult.
Needs Sunlight
2009-01-12 21:03:01
Even for those still stuck in Windows, it is time to drop MSN.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 21:06:48
I think that it's friends who use MSN that are the cause,
Mikko
2009-01-12 21:52:46
MSN works with pidgin 2.2.1
Lyle Howard Seave
2009-01-12 22:09:09
>I think that it’s friends who use MSN that are the cause
It is.
Its hard to get people to change IM's.
Even more so people who arent technically able. ("Install how?")
Once Yahoo and MSN were able to communicate together, a lot of people I know dumped the hotmail identity they had created JUST to be able to communicate with by IM w/ friends/family who used the IM 'that came with the computer'.
I have friends and family around the world who run ICQ, Yahoo/MSN, AOL, Skype, IRC, Googletalk and a few others. I use them all except Skype on Kopete, so its not like Im a client of their other services in any way but the protocol they use.
I hope XMPP can do for IM what SMTP did for email.
E-mail previously existed in closed communities including AOL, CompuServe, Prodigy and the rest of the Internet. When SMTP (with all its flaws, spam and security problems) won out in the long run, it made email a truly universal communication.
Open standards are not the friends of monopolies.
lachlan
2009-01-14 06:22:05
it's probably because pidgin is crap.
for msn i use emesene from their SVN repo and i haven't had an issue with using msn since then.
the issue being that all my friends use windows and therefore msn, you'd also look pretty lame trying to chat up girls on msn while telling them that linux is so much sexier on a girl.
Omar Hafez
2009-01-14 09:43:13
@ lachlan
No, Pidgin is good for GTalk and some IRC but not for MSN and Yahoo.
I'm forced to use MSN because some of my friends use it, so I use emesene to access it, and it's working like a charm.
The MIT injustice remains and recent "libreplanet" events were held in a venue that's not MIT and far less prestigious than MIT (the "Wentworth" imitation)
Maybe the "mainstream media" is looking for clickbait or maybe it's actively looking to make a scandal - a phony controversy with which to make the job of coordinating Linux unpleasant
Comments
Roy Bixler
2009-01-12 15:58:04
Diamond Wakizashi
2009-01-12 19:44:23
That's fine with me! They want to lose even more users to Google? This sounds like another one of that crazed lunatic Ballmer's idiotic ideas.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 19:49:10
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 19:51:43
A minute ago (in IRC)...
<trmanco> :-P <trmanco> LOL <trmanco> msn got back online <trmanco> wait, maybe I'm dreaming <trmanco> no I'm not <trmanco> it is back online <trmanco> yep, people can confirm this <trmanco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/316252 se the latest comments <trmanco> see* <trmanco> crappy servers :|
Diamond Wakizashi
2009-01-12 20:07:09
They are using their own nasty Windows garbageware?
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 20:21:26
(20:15:09) soap: current HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:15:07 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 X-Powered-By: ASP.NET X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
trmanco
2009-01-12 20:22:35
Yes...
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:15:07 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 X-Powered-By: ASP.NET X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
Diamond Wakizashi
2009-01-12 20:27:33
Needs Sunlight
2009-01-12 21:03:01
Roy Schestowitz
2009-01-12 21:06:48
Mikko
2009-01-12 21:52:46
Lyle Howard Seave
2009-01-12 22:09:09
It is. Its hard to get people to change IM's. Even more so people who arent technically able. ("Install how?") Once Yahoo and MSN were able to communicate together, a lot of people I know dumped the hotmail identity they had created JUST to be able to communicate with by IM w/ friends/family who used the IM 'that came with the computer'.
I have friends and family around the world who run ICQ, Yahoo/MSN, AOL, Skype, IRC, Googletalk and a few others. I use them all except Skype on Kopete, so its not like Im a client of their other services in any way but the protocol they use.
I hope XMPP can do for IM what SMTP did for email.
E-mail previously existed in closed communities including AOL, CompuServe, Prodigy and the rest of the Internet. When SMTP (with all its flaws, spam and security problems) won out in the long run, it made email a truly universal communication.
Open standards are not the friends of monopolies.
lachlan
2009-01-14 06:22:05
for msn i use emesene from their SVN repo and i haven't had an issue with using msn since then.
the issue being that all my friends use windows and therefore msn, you'd also look pretty lame trying to chat up girls on msn while telling them that linux is so much sexier on a girl.
Omar Hafez
2009-01-14 09:43:13
No, Pidgin is good for GTalk and some IRC but not for MSN and Yahoo. I'm forced to use MSN because some of my friends use it, so I use emesene to access it, and it's working like a charm.