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| prurigro | does canada not have software patents? | Nov 20 00:01 |
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| cubezzz | it's hardly unique in that regard | Nov 20 00:01 |
| cubezzz | India does not | Nov 20 00:02 |
| cubezzz | "No patent shall issue for any mere scientific principle or abstract theorem | Nov 20 00:03 |
| cubezzz | " | Nov 20 00:03 |
| cubezzz | so it basically must be applied to some device | Nov 20 00:04 |
| cubezzz | "The presense of a programmed general purpose computer or a prgram for such computer does not lend patentability to, nor subtract patentability from an apparatus or process" | Nov 20 00:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | prgram | Nov 20 00:07 |
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| cubezzz | they might have circumvented this though | Nov 20 00:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes with a prgram | Nov 20 00:08 |
| cubezzz | although Amazon's 1 click patent was rejected, and then appealed in Canada | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/spin/2011/11/11132/abramoff-released-prison-rebrands-himself-against-corruption LMAO | Nov 20 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Abramoff, Released from Prison, Rebrands Himself as Against Corruption | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 48.07 KB | Nov 20 00:12 |
| cubezzz | Amazon applied for a patent in 1998 and it's still not fully resolved | Nov 20 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It doesn't make it any less necessary to getting a decent job these days. The fees are a completely different; an underfunding issue. | Nov 20 00:21 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Chrome-OS-Linux-1-7-932-Has-Google-Music-Manager-235286.shtml | Nov 20 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome OS Linux 1.7.932 Has Google Music Manager - Softpedia .::. Size~: 48.08 KB | Nov 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: smells like...... | Nov 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | trademark infringement | Nov 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Black Duck sponsored Linuxcon | Nov 20 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | so did Citrix | Nov 20 00:26 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 20 00:26 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 00:43 |
| schestowitz | they sponsor that sort of stuff | Nov 20 00:43 |
| schestowitz | THeir clients they they seek come from there | Nov 20 00:43 |
| schestowitz | but it's what they sell that does not actually help much | Nov 20 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | friend: "some guy in Saudi Arabia was hitting on me last night. why do these people go for Americans?" | Nov 20 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | me: "because he'll get his head cut off if he advertises it in Saudi Arabia" | Nov 20 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 00:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they US sponsored the Taliban under another banner | Nov 20 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | well, according to Herman Cain's latest flub | Nov 20 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | they're running Libya now | Nov 20 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 00:50 |
| schestowitz | They will "rebrand" | Nov 20 00:50 |
| schestowitz | Militias don't stick to trademarks :-) | Nov 20 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Cain should go back to making nasty toilet pizza and playing Sim City | Nov 20 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | Godfather's Pizza is the shit you get at a truck stop | Nov 20 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a good pizza chain | Nov 20 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's what you are stuck with if you get hungry on a toll road and there's nothing else for miles | Nov 20 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41575_72499707647_5510_n.jpg | Nov 20 01:01 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3mDLsyn6ns | Nov 20 01:02 |
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| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314631_185329371551406_135617236522620_395657_379195085_n.jpg | Nov 20 01:12 |
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| prurigro | lol, no savings could be worth one of those black friday lineups | Nov 20 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Occupy Wall Street | Nov 20 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | In October 2011, Herman Cain described the Occupy Wall Street movement as "un-American". He further stated, "I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself."[124] | Nov 20 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | On October 15, 2011 Cain proposed to build an electrified fence on the border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally. Cain said: "It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’" At another campaign rally he added that the sign would be written in English and | Nov 20 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | in Spanish."[121] However, Cain stated his comments on an electrified border fence were just a "joke", telling CNN's John King, "Yeah, it was a joke, and yeah, I haven't learned how to be politically correct yet." In a following interview, Cain expressed that he was serious about the border fence and stated "I'm not walking away from that".[122] | Nov 20 01:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] So you took the course and the loan and bought the books on *their* advice. It should be possible to at least negotiate it down. | Nov 20 01:22 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ap-us-evangelist-childa,0,6321742.story | Nov 20 01:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Convicted evangelist Alamo no longer hospitalized - chicagotribune.com .::. Size~: 155.83 KB | Nov 20 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | TEXARKANA, Ark.— | Nov 20 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | The lawyer for an Arkansas evangelist convicted of taking young girls across state lines for sex says his client was hospitalized for about two weeks but has since been released. | Nov 20 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Defense attorney John Wesley Hall says Tony Alamo told his family that he was suffering from double pneumonia, liver problems and other ailments. | Nov 20 01:27 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 20 01:29 |
| schestowitz | priceless | Nov 20 01:29 |
| schestowitz | thanks for shoring | Nov 20 01:29 |
| schestowitz | i have got to get a nap now | Nov 20 01:30 |
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| DaemonFC | http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2011-3893 | Nov 20 01:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: National Vulnerability Database (NVD) National Vulnerability Database (CVE-2011-3893) .::. Size~: 2696.47 KB | Nov 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | "Google Chrome before 15.0.874.120 does not properly implement the MKV and Vorbis media handlers, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (out-of-bounds read) via unspecified vectors." | Nov 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2011-3895 | Nov 20 01:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: National Vulnerability Database (NVD) National Vulnerability Database (CVE-2011-3895) .::. Size~: 2695.96 KB | Nov 20 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Heap-based buffer overflow in the Vorbis decoder in Google Chrome before 15.0.874.120 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service or possibly have unspecified other impact via a crafted stream. | Nov 20 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora users should not use "Spot"'s Chromium builds | Nov 20 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | he's frequently far behind with stable updates leaving security problems unpatched for weeks or more | Nov 20 01:51 |
| B|`endan | we dont even have chromium in parabola because the devs don't even know what the licenses are on parts of it | Nov 20 01:55 |
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| DaemonFC | B|`endan: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474549#c59 | Nov 20 01:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 474549 – Review Request: ca-cacert.org - CAcert.org CA root certificates .::. Size~: 130.64 KB | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Tom "spot" Callaway 2011-11-04 10:54:07 EDT | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | All of you, please stop. | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | It seems clear from the lack of response to my query that no one from CAcert | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | that is posting on this ticket is a lawyer. | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat has lawyers who review license issues, whether they be on content, | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | code, certificates, or greased ferrets. They've reviewed the CAcert terms and | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | advised us that they do not meet the minimum requirements for Fedora to include | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | them. | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | If there is an actual lawyer on the CAcert side who would be willing to | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | correspond with Red Hat Legal on this issue, please feel free to either have | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | them reach out to me, or send me their contact information and I will be sure | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | to connect them with Red Hat Legal. | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Otherwise, please, stop. It smells like Debian Legal in here. I'm sure you mean | Nov 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | well, but you're not accomplishing anything or convincing anyone. | Nov 20 01:59 |
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| DaemonFC | fwiw I manually installed CACert a while back | Nov 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | fuck it | Nov 20 02:03 |
| B|`endan | 0.o | Nov 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | if Microsoft and Apple have certificates in my browser, why shouldn't CACert? | Nov 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I got tired of seeing the Firefox warning when using a site signed with a cacert certificate | Nov 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | besides, having them installed lets me enable about a dozen disabled https everywhere entries | Nov 20 02:05 |
| B|`endan | whats the problem with them? | Nov 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | he doesn't seem to say | Nov 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | only that Red Hat Legal doesn't like them | Nov 20 02:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I think we had one of those many years ago. (My older brother was forced to put his hair in a net to work there.) Maybe it was Roy Rogers? | Nov 20 02:12 | |
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| B|`endan | DaemonFC: Do you ever sleep? | Nov 20 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | no | Nov 20 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | I wait | Nov 20 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 20 02:23 |
| B|`endan | how why?! | Nov 20 02:23 |
| prurigro | vampire, its the only explanation | Nov 20 02:30 |
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| B|`endan | the only | Nov 20 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | right | Nov 20 02:42 |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Wait, who were you talking to? | Nov 20 03:15 |
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| DaemonFC | B|`endan mentioned Parabola | Nov 20 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | I looked up their site, it uses CACert | Nov 20 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | CACert's certificate has a bad license that wasn't written by a lawyer and has lots of ambiguous crap in it | Nov 20 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | it basically says CACert hasn't and doesn't have to verify who actually uses a certificate they sign for what | Nov 20 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | and that you can't trust anything that uses their certificate | Nov 20 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I never noticed that until now | Nov 20 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | so I ripped it back out of Firefox | Nov 20 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 20 03:18 |
| Brendan_T | :O | Nov 20 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's pointless to use a certificate from a root that says you can't trust the certificate | Nov 20 03:18 |
| Brendan_T | i forwarded what you just said to #parabola | Nov 20 03:20 |
| XFaCE | Well, frankly, that's true for many of the "official" certificates as well. | Nov 20 03:20 |
| XFaCE | Then again, that's more of a flaw of SSL | Nov 20 03:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: @collentine Facebook has a feature where it allows you to download an archive of that information. Mine is 262 MiB. | Nov 20 03:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Watching "House" and getting shit done *are* mutually exclusive events | Nov 20 04:31 | |
| XFaCE | I disagree! | Nov 20 04:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://moonpup.blogspot.com/2011/11/true.html | Nov 20 09:04 |
| schestowitz | BTW, no bots due to server migration | Nov 20 09:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez oei, qué pasa? | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd @Choisissez @iRail awesome! Looking forward to read those | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @maartenzam: Workshop #GoogleRefine op #vvoj2011 met Arlen Poort (NRC): data opkuisen voor #datajour http://ur1. ... | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp heb het uiteindelijk gehouden bij "verwerkt". #StoopR zal trots op me zijn. | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdesmet_ which hackerspace has the best couch? | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @hvangool: Ook: wie de interviews van #tech45 op TedxUHasselt http://t.co/s3c3b71z nog niet beluisterde heeft: doen! | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve @annabelle__s Door te zingen, hoop ik? | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Our copyright system isn’t working; isn’t enough to support artists. Need debate http://ur1.ca/5yc1j | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @kodel hoeveel betaal je tegenwoordig om daar binnen te mogen? | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @maartenzam: Weinig Vlamingen op #vvoj Zijn er Vlaamse datajournalisten? #datajournalistiek | Nov 20 09:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez if you're always this enthusiastic about things like this I think we will make an awesome team ;) | Nov 20 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @magalielie: Ik verkoop twee kaarten voor deze ongetwijfeld heel schone avond: http://t.co/ucU8lStB | Nov 20 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp dt-fout in google of denk ik verkeerd? http://t.co/idiIemZY #timtaaltips | Nov 20 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Using @choisissez at @iRail http://t.co/IGo4Z0EW (subscribe at http://t.co/ZISAiSYd before replying) | Nov 20 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... falling asleep, here, !identiverse, !tzaf | Nov 20 09:07 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 09:08 |
| schestowitz | @Giorgi Tavkelishvili - thank you for sharing, the key line for me was "hopefully the patch will at least be carried into the Linux 3.2 kernel package for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and other distributions." | Nov 20 09:08 |
| schestowitz | i have a i5 laptop, they have tested it for i7, let 12.04 LTS come out then we will have a clearer picture! | Nov 20 09:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 09:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/848049 | Nov 20 09:08 |
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| schestowitz | hhmm.. the bots might take a while to catch up | Nov 20 09:08 |
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| schestowitz | "Hitting the market first at a lower price is the main thing.After that they can build whatever they want into it, with software upgrades and hardware improvements." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/851895 | Nov 20 10:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wisdom of the Ancients http://xkcd.com/979/ #xkcd | Nov 20 10:02 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/11/18/microsoft_kills_dryad/ | Nov 20 10:07 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 20 10:18 |
| schestowitz | "Men need to do more women in FOSS? This is why I love headlines..." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/848270 | Nov 20 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | "No Xonotic in the list?" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/851989 | Nov 20 10:34 |
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| MinceR | :D | Nov 20 10:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/73777.html | Nov 20 10:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "The big trick to learning to like Linux is to commit to stick with it. There are so many cool features in Linux itself... http://b1t.it/YaP | Nov 20 11:30 | |
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| schestowitz | "I'd rather support suppliers who leave their tablets Open. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/852091 | Nov 20 11:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "91.4% of the top 500 supercomputers in the world are Linux-based." http://is.gd/m54uMA #linux #gnu | Nov 20 12:37 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/851989 "Yes Nexuiz! " | Nov 20 12:40 |
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| schestowitz | "I'm watching it. It's great. This is why Microsoft are diversifying so much. They know it's only a matter of time. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/852550 | Nov 20 12:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Plurilateral Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) – Civil law measures bit.ly/tfjmiS #acta | Nov 20 12:43 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85521675 | Nov 20 12:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 12:14:44 UTC - Identi.ca: Tails, the incognito live system, gets 0.9 release http://is.gd/TyA5Rc #tails #debian #gnu #linux | Nov 20 12:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85521600 | Nov 20 12:45 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 12:06:42 UTC - Identi.ca: 60 Days as a #Linux user by a recovering #Windows Guy. http://ur1.ca/5yfwr interesting post | Nov 20 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85518575 http://identi.ca/notice/85518253 | Nov 20 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 10:24:09 UTC - Identi.ca: Sales Estimates for Amazon's Linux-based Tablets http://is.gd/rK2MNG #linux #drm | Nov 20 12:46 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 10:12:15 UTC - Identi.ca: 200 Million Android/Linux Phone Activations http://ur1.ca/5yedy | Nov 20 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85518050 http://identi.ca/notice/85518004 http://identi.ca/notice/85517950 | Nov 20 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 10:04:27 UTC - Identi.ca: Sitting comfortably in New York are several vulture funds getting super rich by intoxicating countries abroad with debt... http://b1t.it/X9i | Nov 20 12:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 10:02:51 UTC - Identi.ca: JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs Sued for Alleged MF Global Misstatements http://is.gd/nRf0B0 #JPMorgan #GoldmanSachs | Nov 20 12:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 10:01:32 UTC - Identi.ca: What price the new democracy? #GoldmanSachs conquers #Europe http://is.gd/m4g7IQ importing #corruption | Nov 20 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85517860 http://identi.ca/notice/85517858 http://identi.ca/notice/85516962 | Nov 20 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 09:58:59 UTC - Identi.ca: #Fedora 16 KDE Review: #Gnome 3 vs #KDE 4 http://ur1.ca/5ye9o #gnu #linux | Nov 20 12:48 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 09:58:56 UTC - Identi.ca: 5 great FPS games for #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ye9n #games | Nov 20 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: » Linuxaria – Everything about GNU/Linux and Open source 5 great FPS game for Linux .::. Size~: 67.79 KB | Nov 20 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 09:27:55 UTC - Identi.ca: 65 Inch Android/Linux Tablet in Perspective http://ur1.ca/5ye0u #android | Nov 20 12:48 |
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| riddic-ArmBox | schestowitz: (@linux FPS games) boo, they left out tremulous | Nov 20 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85516193 http://identi.ca/notice/85515850 http://identi.ca/notice/85515705 | Nov 20 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 08:55:53 UTC - Identi.ca: GNOME 3.2.2 Released http://ur1.ca/5ydp1 #gnome #gnu #linux | Nov 20 12:50 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 08:37:30 UTC - Identi.ca: How-To Choose the Right Distribution of Linux http://ur1.ca/5ydkg #gnu #linux | Nov 20 12:50 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 08:31:02 UTC - Identi.ca: The Cloud Will Be Open Source And Ubiquitous http://ur1.ca/5ydib #redhat | Nov 20 12:50 |
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| oiaohm | riddic-ArmBox: My favorate is missing as well. | Nov 20 12:52 |
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| schestowitz | ah | Nov 20 12:53 |
| oiaohm | riddic-ArmBox: ie xonotic | Nov 20 12:53 |
| schestowitz | By the way, any tools for importing SMS messages from phone to PC? | Nov 20 12:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: depends on the phone. | Nov 20 12:54 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I know | Nov 20 12:54 |
| schestowitz | but with simple featureghones this seems hard | Nov 20 12:55 |
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| oiaohm | There are many software that exists for particular phones that will get the sms messages. | Nov 20 12:55 |
| oiaohm | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/android-app-to-send-and-receive-sms.html android makes it particularly fun. | Nov 20 12:56 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: lot of old nokias and others http://gnokii.org/ | Nov 20 12:58 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: really this is a good starting point http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux.html | Nov 20 12:59 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically if I knew the phone I was taking on I might be able to direct you to the right software. | Nov 20 12:59 |
| schestowitz | There's http://cihar.com/software/alcasync/ | Nov 20 13:01 |
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| schestowitz | let's see what portage it uses | Nov 20 13:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nubz.org/alcatool/Home.html | Nov 20 13:02 |
| oiaohm | You have tried Gammu as recommended? | Nov 20 13:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Nov 20 13:03 |
| oiaohm | http://wammu.eu/phones/ Ie if your phone is in here you should not use alcasync | Nov 20 13:04 |
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| schestowitz | it's a temporary one | Nov 20 13:17 |
| schestowitz | and no USB connectivity | Nov 20 13:17 |
| schestowitz | Links 20/11/2011: GNU/Linux in Tamil Nadu, Flex Donated to Apache http://techrights.org/2011/11/20/flex-donated-to-apache/ | Nov 20 13:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 20/11/2011: GNU/Linux in Tamil Nadu, Flex Donated to Apache | Techrights .::. Size~: 126.39 KB | Nov 20 13:18 |
| schestowitz | I need to go now... practice rowing | Nov 20 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Again some phones with Gammu can connect with bluetooth | Nov 20 13:20 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically I am running blind since I don't know the model phone | Nov 20 13:21 |
| -kloeri-[Global Notice] Hi all, it's time to continue our ircd upgrades so we'll have a few netsplits as wolfe and hubbard is restarted. It will be somewhat noisy with just shy of 4000 people affected but shouldn't take long. Thank you for using freenode. | Nov 20 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] You! I wanna take you to Amsterdam! - Electric Six concert in ~28h :D | Nov 20 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Copyright doesn't work and EU Commisioner Neelie Kroes seems to "get it". Yay! ur1.ca/5yh00 !cc | Nov 20 13:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @SaidElKhadraoui: Zin om voor mij te werken in een boeiende en internationale omgeving? Reageer dan http://ur1. ... | Nov 20 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Frank Miller tells #Occupy to enlist with Army: ur1.ca/5rl0k - seems he didn't get memo how Army enlisted with Occupy rys.io/_000s | Nov 20 14:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ministers Considering Protest Restrictions During #Olympics - http://bit.ly/umzgxu chinese must be delighted #UK following their example | Nov 20 14:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So I finally got around to posting a bit new stuff on my brag - here's something for Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal http://ur1.ca/5yimz | Nov 20 15:20 | |
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| schestowitz | It's so quiet today | Nov 20 16:15 |
| iophk | Slow day. | Nov 20 16:15 |
| schestowitz | very | Nov 20 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I don't see the freenode netsplits that were scheduled | Nov 20 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I'll post some news links in a moment | Nov 20 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I got to code a lot of stuff tonight to catch up | Nov 20 16:16 |
| schestowitz | today I improved my rowing time by a relatively considerable amount. Despite running for 15 minutes and exhausting some energy, I was able to do the rowing (100 meters) in just 15.1 seconds, or 0.3 seconds behind the British record. With a little more practice and a fresh start I should be able to get there before Christmas and mark the last achievement of my 20s :-) | Nov 20 16:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/713148 | Nov 20 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 16:22 |
| iophk | Rowing in a boat or a rowing machine? | Nov 20 16:23 |
| schestowitz | rowing machine, it's winter | Nov 20 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Do you row? | Nov 20 16:27 |
| iophk | Occasionally | Nov 20 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Cool :) | Nov 20 16:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/lightweight-programs-you-should-use-for-a-faster-linux-2011-11 | Nov 20 16:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lightweight Programs You Should Use for a Faster Linux .::. Size~: 98.17 KB | Nov 20 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 7 Hidden Features Of #Ubuntu 11.10 You Might Not Know Of http://ur1.ca/5yjuo #gnome | Nov 20 16:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #tzag Identizens | Nov 20 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: hi | Nov 20 16:33 |
| XFaCE | hello | Nov 20 16:34 |
| schestowitz | Sorry I missed your question last night, I was occupied doing something else, so didn't see it | Nov 20 16:34 |
| XFaCE | No prob. I know you actually have a life ;) | Nov 20 16:35 |
| schestowitz | I was chatting for 6 hours | Nov 20 16:35 |
| XFaCE | ...or maybe not... | Nov 20 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Well, just not in IRC | Nov 20 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] MSFT: paying for our software gives businesses competitive disadvantage. http://is.gd/ncUmFi | Nov 20 16:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft 'Anti-Piracy' Campaign Explains Why It's Bad For Businesses To Pay For Microsoft Software | Techdirt .::. Size~: 96.86 KB | Nov 20 16:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: So do you have an answer now? :D | Nov 20 16:38 |
| schestowitz | I would if I remembered the question | Nov 20 16:43 |
| schestowitz | outside my scrolling buffer | Nov 20 16:43 |
| XFaCE | <XFaC | Nov 20 16:44 |
| XFaCE | <XFaCE> question, how come in none of the patent-related article do you mention that Canada (a fairly important developed country ;) ) doesn't have software patents (for the most part, excluding some Amazon gaffes)? | Nov 20 16:45 |
| XFaCE | <XFaCE> schestowitz: It gives some leverage that software patents aren't mandatory | Nov 20 16:45 |
| XFaCE | <XFaCE> *the concept that | Nov 20 16:45 |
| XFaCE | <XFaCE> not to say it doesn't already have overwhelming and overflowing leverage. :) | Nov 20 16:45 |
| XFaCE | <XFaCE> schestowitz: I mean, we always Europe as an example, but Canada's there too you know :D | Nov 20 16:45 |
| schestowitz | What do you mean by not mandatory? | Nov 20 16:47 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/852550 "Perhaps a Windows kernel recompilation isn't very easy [Perhaps]... " | Nov 20 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 16:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Mandatory for innovation to occur; you know, the lawyer arguement :P | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | I don;t think mandate is the right word | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | You can't mandate for innovation | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | but maybe "essential" | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | I herad my friend say that the other day | Nov 20 16:51 |
| schestowitz | he was here asking me, so have you got any patents. | Nov 20 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I LOLed | Nov 20 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I think the media plays along with that bogus propaganda | Nov 20 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Invoking "edison" and "teflon" (for NASA funding) | Nov 20 16:52 |
| XFaCE | I would think lawyers would use the word mandatory though, no? | Nov 20 16:52 |
| XFaCE | Or the other parties involved in non-innovation. | Nov 20 16:52 |
| XFaCE | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111118/02523816811/microsoft-anti-piracy-campaign-explains-why-its-bad-businesses-to-pay-microsoft-software.shtml | Nov 20 16:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft 'Anti-Piracy' Campaign Explains Why It's Bad For Businesses To Pay For Microsoft Software | Techdirt .::. Size~: 96.86 KB | Nov 20 16:54 |
| XFaCE | I should forward this to every Business professor | Nov 20 16:54 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It's like when the MAFIAA uses "piracy" in their arguments | Nov 20 16:54 |
| XFaCE | We all know that's bullshit, so we copy what they say to show that at face value their statements are absurd. | Nov 20 16:55 |
| XFaCE | I suppose we could "" all the inaccurate words though | Nov 20 16:55 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It gives some leverage that software patents aren't "mandatory" for innovation :) | Nov 20 16:56 |
| schestowitz | "Dr. Roy Schestowitz Hi Your page is treasure trove of knowledge :-) Loved it through and through <3 Thanks a lot for sharing :-) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/853730 | Nov 20 17:08 |
| schestowitz | ah, nice to get such feedback :-) | Nov 20 17:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Maximum (32) redirects followed ( http://joindiaspora.com/posts/853730 ) | Nov 20 17:08 |
| schestowitz | "if anyone will ask me "Where is the mainstream of Linux", i will answer in "SuperComputing". ;) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/852550 | Nov 20 17:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 17:09 |
| schestowitz | "You forgot to tag #Ubuntu. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/853547 | Nov 20 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 17:10 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: foss uses this strategy in a way | Nov 20 17:10 |
| schestowitz | it calls it sharing,not piracy | Nov 20 17:10 |
| schestowitz | and it thanks those who do it, doesn't put them in jail | Nov 20 17:10 |
| schestowitz | "You forgot to tag #Android. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/853700 | Nov 20 17:10 |
| iophk | Yes, the same arguments speak to the advantages of FOSS. | Nov 20 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 17:10 |
| schestowitz | what is this, tag nazis? | Nov 20 17:11 |
| XFaCE | What about #GNU? #FreeSoftware? | Nov 20 17:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: You are under arrest. | Nov 20 17:12 |
| schestowitz | "You forgot to tag #Android again. " | Nov 20 17:25 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/853753 | Nov 20 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 17:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SteelStorm 2 announced http://ur1.ca/5yko3 #linux | Nov 20 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mike Presentation of the !FreedomBox from James Vasile http://ur1.ca/5yjvd | Nov 20 17:25 | |
| schestowitz | I 'forgot' | Nov 20 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steel Storm 2 announced - A new FPS game coming! | Gaming On Linux .::. Size~: 32.25 KB | Nov 20 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | Or maybe I just never intended to :-) | Nov 20 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85529585 | Nov 20 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 16:33:28 UTC - Identi.ca: Native #Linux #Games on Self Made Arcade Machine http://ur1.ca/5yjws | Nov 20 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85529735 | Nov 20 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 16:39:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Open Source #India 2011 Kick-Starts Today! http://ur1.ca/5yjzf #event #foss | Nov 20 17:26 |
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| DaemonFC | "It's Huntington, Indiana. You should be glad if anyone decides to occupy it" | Nov 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85530639 | Nov 20 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 17:08:39 UTC - Identi.ca: USB stick packs ARM Cortex-A9 CPU, runs #linux http://ur1.ca/5ykfn | Nov 20 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | -me to the Mayor | Nov 20 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85530299 | Nov 20 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-11 16:57:11 UTC - Identi.ca: Android tablet mimics iPad display specs http://ur1.ca/5yk7g #linux | Nov 20 17:27 |
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| DaemonFC | he "commented" on the occupy people in Fort Wayne | Nov 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: LOL | Nov 20 17:27 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Bill Maher said a similar joke about Occupy Oakland | Nov 20 17:28 |
| XFaCE | As an aside, I don't think Occupy in Canada has been really useful or effective | Nov 20 17:28 |
| XFaCE | Unfortunately :( | Nov 20 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Occupy the Tories | Nov 20 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | make them pay | Nov 20 17:30 |
| XFaCE | They have been without occupy so far | Nov 20 17:31 |
| XFaCE | The stupid draconian bill we all knew they would pass with a majority have been blocked through public backlash and political Gandai-ism | Nov 20 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | I've decided to play around with PC-BSD 9 on my old Intel system | Nov 20 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | from what I understand, the hardware is old enough that BSD shouldn't have problems with it | Nov 20 17:33 |
| XFaCE | hope it's from 1998 :D | Nov 20 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix mentioned today the new scheduler for Intel GMA | Nov 20 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | for Linux that is | Nov 20 17:35 |
| XFaCE | do tell more | Nov 20 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's one for R300 and r600, but they have not been enabled yet because it takes too much overhead and causes global performance issues | Nov 20 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | when they're done, the GPU will be able to schedule itself more for what the user is doing at the moment | Nov 20 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | and performance in an active application will improve | Nov 20 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | right now it's more of a FIFO system | Nov 20 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | FGLRX already does that | Nov 20 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: It's not that old | Nov 20 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | it has a Core 2 Duo | Nov 20 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | 4 GB of RAM | Nov 20 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | a Radeon HD 4670 with 1 GB GDDR4 | Nov 20 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | my new system has an AMD Phenom II X4 945 | Nov 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | 8 GB of RAM | Nov 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | a RadeonHD 5870 with 1 GB GDDR5 | Nov 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's enough that I don't have to really care that KDE has put on some weight ;) | Nov 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | even the old system handles it fine | Nov 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | The Core 2 Duo system was the one with the Foxconn motherboard | Nov 20 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | and the BIOS problems | Nov 20 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: It'll be PC-BSD because they've taken some of the ugliness out of what is still a FreeBSD system | Nov 20 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | on a desktop, FreeBSD ports is inelegant and the installer is downright cryptic | Nov 20 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's an easier way to get a minimal system that can't do much, but if you want a desktop environment like KDE you'll be at it for a while | Nov 20 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | Back in like 2004-2005 or somewhere around that time (don't hold me to the date", Leo Laporte had a Linux vs FreeBSD thing, where the Linux in question was SUSE with the old traditional installer | Nov 20 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | the BSD guys shouted "Done!" while the Linux guys were only about 30% through | Nov 20 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | it turned out that the BSD guys told their installer to only install a core system | Nov 20 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | while the SUSE guys told it to install everything default, including all of KDE | Nov 20 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | which I think is cheating ;) | Nov 20 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | they should have agreed on what each one of them considered an "installation" before they began | Nov 20 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | if the FreeBSD people had to sit around and install the full desktop system that the SUSE people were, then FreeBSD would have taken 2-3 times longer than SUSE | Nov 20 17:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hi | Nov 20 17:48 |
| schestowitz | opensuse released download stats | Nov 20 17:48 |
| schestowitz | not impressive IMHO | Nov 20 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | it was a lame way of pointing out that the FreeBSD installer can get you to a system that barely does anything | Nov 20 17:48 |
| schestowitz | about 100k downloads in day 1... I think it used to be a lot more | Nov 20 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | you get the system booted up and you're at a tcsh shell | Nov 20 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Nov 20 17:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think XFaCE is now asleep :-) | Nov 20 17:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "He looks like an emperor being carried by servants." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/853849 | Nov 20 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 17:50 |
| schestowitz | indeed | Nov 20 17:50 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 20 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Updike | Nov 20 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Model aircraft | Nov 20 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Do you buy the one that's preassembled? | Nov 20 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Model on an aircraft | Nov 20 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | or do you buy the one in 1,000 pieces | Nov 20 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | so that you can glue it together just how you want? | Nov 20 17:51 |
| schestowitz | not done them in ages | Nov 20 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 20 17:51 |
| schestowitz | I did about 3 when I was like 9 | Nov 20 17:51 |
| schestowitz | military planes with about 100-200 pieces to assemble and glue | Nov 20 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, the point is, you expend much more effort | Nov 20 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | and the results aren't that much better or worse in the end | Nov 20 17:51 |
| schestowitz | i luuurved the smell of the glue | Nov 20 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I don't get Arch or Gentoo | Nov 20 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I noticed :) | Nov 20 17:52 |
| schestowitz | they come in different flavours so to speak | Nov 20 17:52 |
| schestowitz | the box should name the mode | Nov 20 17:52 |
| schestowitz | but the glue type | Nov 20 17:52 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Nov 20 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Arch and Gentoo are a little too academic | Nov 20 17:52 |
| schestowitz | "Afghanistan aroma" | Nov 20 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | sniffing the glue | Nov 20 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | following RMS | Nov 20 17:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they're for developers by developers, I think | Nov 20 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | it all comes together now | Nov 20 17:53 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 20 17:53 |
| schestowitz | RMS made a joke abput sniffing flowers | Nov 20 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Some people mistook those quotes | Nov 20 17:53 |
| schestowitz | last week linux today took heis personals joke and did a tabloid-like thing | Nov 20 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Mint is killing Ubuntu on Distrowatch | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | RMS is peculiar at times | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | to some people peculiar humour is a deterrent | Nov 20 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | even if you do the span of 6 months, Ubuntu is now in a distant second | Nov 20 17:54 |
| iophk | Ralph Bakshi's remake of Mighty Mouse had an example of sniffing flowers. Caused a rucus. | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | to me it's just.. interesting | Nov 20 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | If you do a span of 30 days, Ubuntu is in fourth | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's worse than that | Nov 20 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mint, Fedora, and OpenSUSE are way ahead | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Al;though Mint is Ubuntu based | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | When Mint made #1 it made healdines | Nov 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Which reaffirmed the belief that it was better | Nov 20 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | Mint is very different than Ubuntu | Nov 20 17:55 |
| schestowitz | So that onyl further increased allure over it | Nov 20 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | not only the GNOME Shell and their improvements to it | Nov 20 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | but that they don't ship it full of Ubuntu DRM | Nov 20 17:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Pirate To Join European Parliament As Youngest Member http://ur1.ca/5yl1d #eu #europe #foss #software #ows | Nov 20 17:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Mint has a nice menu | Nov 20 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | and self-promoting crap like Ubuntu One | Nov 20 17:55 |
| schestowitz | the gnome side.. | Nov 20 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | there is no Mint KDE anymore | Nov 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz | huh | Nov 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz | ? | Nov 20 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | at least not until they get around to rebasing it on Debian | Nov 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz | not even community maintained? | Nov 20 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Nov 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz | they use to have gnome/cl;assic, kde, debian based ones, sfce.. | Nov 20 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | the last Ubuntu one is a couple Ubuntus behind | Nov 20 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | and there wil lbe no upgrade path | Nov 20 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | when the KDE Debian Edition comes out | Nov 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz | mandriva had a community-maintained xfce one | Nov 20 17:56 |
| schestowitz | not heard from it in years or at least a year | Nov 20 17:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @osamak Clashes between protesters and police in #Tahrir square. #Aljazeera English is showing footage, saying 2 killed, 192 injured. | Nov 20 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, company help volunteersch! | Nov 20 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Adam Williamson says he's skeptical of the new Mandriva | Nov 20 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | take it for what you will | Nov 20 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | he's working for Red Hat now | Nov 20 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, you said this before | Nov 20 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | but he probably knows more about the inner layout of Mandriva than most | Nov 20 17:57 |
| schestowitz | that he said he trusts mageia more | Nov 20 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | he probably should | Nov 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz | he was their main booster | Nov 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz | if they had any | Nov 20 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the "old" Mandriva people moved on to Mageia | Nov 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz | after him there was some female name | Nov 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz | no surname | Nov 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz | and not even that anymore | Nov 20 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | chances are they'll come up with something more usable | Nov 20 17:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: one of them or two of them moved to Google | Nov 20 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Oh, wait.. | Nov 20 17:59 |
| schestowitz | One to Google | Nov 20 17:59 |
| schestowitz | One to Intel | Nov 20 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Adam and another guy went to Red Hat | Nov 20 17:59 |
| schestowitz | I could find the names, I did include those in daily links when it happened | Nov 20 17:59 |
| schestowitz | ok, I'm back to coding | Nov 20 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How-To Choose the Right Distribution of GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/5ydkg #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #software #computer | Nov 20 18:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How-To Choose the Right Distribution of Linux | Yet Another Linux Blog .::. Size~: 58.02 KB | Nov 20 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I still have lots to catch up with | Nov 20 18:03 |
| schestowitz | namely: Novell news, Gates news, Android stuff, FOSS searches... but probably nothing too significant there | Nov 20 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | I hate cleaning my computer desk | Nov 20 18:04 |
| schestowitz | I think we're left now with HPC domination, Android, and hopes of Android climbing upwards | Nov 20 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | it would probably help if it wasn't also my office desk | Nov 20 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | and my kitchen table | Nov 20 18:04 |
| *DaemonFC shakes out his keyboard | Nov 20 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ben's Prison Blog "...the narrow path to release is oversubscribed." http://ur1.ca/5yl6u | Nov 20 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | Which would help make Linux even more widespread, one foot in the door in preparation for more rootable and hackable tech that's a rennaisance of old days where developers -- not swpats lawyers and aggressors like Gates and Jobs -- called the shots | Nov 20 18:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BEN'S PRISON BLOG: What a Shambles .::. Size~: 82.32 KB | Nov 20 18:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do you cleajn uyour keyboard too? | Nov 20 18:05 |
| schestowitz | I once ruined my fav keyboard while slamming it to clean it | Nov 20 18:06 |
| schestowitz | in windows, don't try taking it off the plug | Nov 20 18:06 |
| schestowitz | cause in older versions it loses the ps/2 keyboard till you reboot | Nov 20 18:06 |
| schestowitz | I never reboot... if there is an outage (like 2 motnhs ago), then there's a powercycle | Nov 20 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have any PS/2 ports | Nov 20 18:07 |
| schestowitz | keyboard clearning is tricky | Nov 20 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | my BIOS still supports them though | Nov 20 18:07 |
| schestowitz | unless you can slide the top of the keyboard off | Nov 20 18:07 |
| schestowitz | with screwdriver | Nov 20 18:07 |
| schestowitz | if the keyboard is light colours, you're screwed | Nov 20 18:07 |
| schestowitz | like Apple wares | Nov 20 18:07 |
| schestowitz | remember serial port? | Nov 20 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | [ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ lsusb | grep Microsoft | Nov 20 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 V1.0 | Nov 20 18:08 |
| iophk | Ick. | Nov 20 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0461:4d0f Primax Electronics, Ltd | Nov 20 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | Mouse | Nov 20 18:08 |
| *schestowitz chokes on coffee | Nov 20 18:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:09a2 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate Deluxe/S7500 | Nov 20 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | webcam | Nov 20 18:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] One day after pepper-spraying, UC Davis students silently, peacefully confront Chancellor Katehi http://identi.ca/url/60561466 | Nov 20 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft primax itc | Nov 20 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: One day after pepper-spraying, UC Davis students silently, peacefully confront Chancellor Katehi - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 31.23 KB | Nov 20 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft v. Primax: Patent Infringement Action with the ITC ... | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/jul08/07-30statementpr.mspx | Nov 20 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Primax and Microsoft Settle Patent Infringement Case: As a result of ... | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/dec08/12-17msip.mspx | Nov 20 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft Watch - Corporate - Primax: Of Mice and Mysteries | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/corporate/primax_of_mice_and_mysteries.html | Nov 20 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Kirkland & Ellis LLP > Chang, Ya-Chiao | http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm%3FcontentID%3D220%26itemID%3D10267 | Nov 20 18:08 |
| schestowitz | This was the first case of MS using patent offensiely and publicly AFAIK | Nov 20 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Callign for embargo | Nov 20 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03f0:8811 Hewlett-Packard | Nov 20 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | printer | Nov 20 18:09 |
| schestowitz | why use a printer? :) | Nov 20 18:09 |
| schestowitz | actually, I need to use one soon | Nov 20 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0781:5530 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer | Nov 20 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0781:74d1 SanDisk Corp. Sansa Clip+ (msc) | Nov 20 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5870] | Nov 20 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series] | Nov 20 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | 03:06.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI | Nov 20 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) | Nov 20 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | there's the sound device I use | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | HDA has improved a lot | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Intel's GMA hasn't | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | [ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ lscpu | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Architecture: x86_64 | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Byte Order: Little Endian | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | CPU(s): 4 | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | On-line CPU(s) list: 0-3 | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Thread(s) per core: 1 | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Core(s) per socket: 4 | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Socket(s): 1 | Nov 20 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | NUMA node(s): 1 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | CPU family: 16 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Model: 4 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Stepping: 2 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | CPU MHz: 800.000 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | BogoMIPS: 5986.95 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Virtualization: AMD-V | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | L1d cache: 64K | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | L1i cache: 64K | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | L2 cache: 512K | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | L3 cache: 6144K | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-3 | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | light NUMA | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | [ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ lsblk | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | sda 8:0 0 931.5G 0 disk | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | ├─sda1 8:1 0 923.5G 0 part / | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | └─sda2 8:2 0 8G 0 part [SWAP] | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | sdf 8:80 1 7.5G 0 disk | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | └─sdf1 8:81 1 7.5G 0 part | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | sdg 8:96 1 7.4G 0 disk | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | sdh 8:112 1 15G 0 disk | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | └─sdh1 8:113 1 15G 0 part | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:14 |
| *DaemonFC loves these | Nov 20 18:14 | |
| DaemonFC | so much nicer than Vista system info | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | [ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ glxinfo | grep OpenGL | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5870 | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL version string: 4.1.11251 Compatibility Profile Context | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL shading language version string: 4.10 | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | and of course, Konversation has a little sysinfo script that gets to the point | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sysinfo for 'ryan-desktop': Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 running KDE Development Platform 4.7.3 (4.7.3), CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 at 800 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 14/909GB, RAM: 5445/7988MB, 193 proc's, 50.48min up | Nov 20 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | although AMD doesn't seem to have a tool to query OpenCL support..... | Nov 20 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | I have their OpenCL driver installed and it is supporting OpenCL 1.2 as of this month | Nov 20 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Let's Work Together. http://ur1.ca/5ylgi #N30 | Nov 20 18:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Workers | Celebrating public services and the people who make them happen .::. Size~: 16.82 KB | Nov 20 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Originally Posted by DaemonFC View Post | Nov 20 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Simple. When you purchase proprietary software using Ubuntu Software Center, it only works on X number of computers (decided by the proprietary software vendor), your Ubuntu Single Sign On is required to redownload and reinstall your purchases later, and you don't get a real DEB file that would work on other Debian-based distributions or be used as a local backup. | Nov 20 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu's DRM'd software store has a very Steam-ish DRM. Or to put it another way, A very big steaming pile of anti-user crap. It is the spiritual successor to Linspire and Click n' Run. | Nov 20 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | someone asked me how the Ubuntu store uses DRM | Nov 20 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | it represents Windows Store or the Apple App Store more than it does a software repository | Nov 20 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | The Faenza printer icon doesn't look much like a printer | Nov 20 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | it looks more like I'd imagine part of Dawn's anatomy to look after the years of punishment | Nov 20 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK: Last chance to email your MP http://t.co/Lpb1zkNJ to raise Assange extradition for Parliamentary hearing on 24th! http://t.co/RAPXDhOv | Nov 20 18:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: This system will probably run Linux fine until the hardware fails and I can no longer find replacements | Nov 20 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 20 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | I have some spare hard drives that I only bought because Newegg had some at fire sale prices | Nov 20 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | I could probably turn around and unload them on ebay and make a profit | Nov 20 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | I need to check and see what the pricing looks like on some new RadeonHD 6000 series hardware | Nov 20 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | if it's not bad, I may upgrade the GPU soon | Nov 20 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | I passed out some video cards I hadn't used in a while to friends and family a while back | Nov 20 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | I seem to collect ones that aren't really that old :P | Nov 20 18:46 |
| schestowitz | I just tried some of these commands | Nov 20 18:46 |
| schestowitz | didn't know about lsblk | Nov 20 18:46 |
| schestowitz | [18:14] <DaemonFC> so much nicer than Vista system info | Nov 20 18:47 |
| schestowitz | which also maks troubleshooting harder cause it's hard to copy and paste | Nov 20 18:47 |
| schestowitz | you could CTRL+C a prompt | Nov 20 18:47 |
| iophk | What is lsblk good for? | Nov 20 18:47 |
| schestowitz | but it's not intitivew | Nov 20 18:47 |
| schestowitz | well, it *is* WIndows | Nov 20 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | block device information | Nov 20 18:47 |
| schestowitz | not supposed to be intuitive | Nov 20 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5ym6h #sip_and_click little flowers | Nov 20 18:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-11-20 .::. Size~: 6.26 KB | Nov 20 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, two almost identical Gigabyte RadeonHD 6670s, same price | Nov 20 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | one has a core clock of 800 Mhz | Nov 20 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | the other one of 670 Mhz | Nov 20 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Nov 20 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | but they threw in a "free software coupon" on the slower model | Nov 20 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | wonder what the "free" software coupon is for | Nov 20 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995109 | Nov 20 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newegg.com - AMD Gift - Software Download Coupon .::. Size~: 154.56 KB | Nov 20 18:50 |
| schestowitz | free payment processing? | Nov 20 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | ahh, your choice from among four crapware bundles for Windows | Nov 20 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 18:50 |
| schestowitz | free from commission | Nov 20 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/00-995-109-04.jpg | Nov 20 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Nov 20 18:51 |
| schestowitz | blech.. | Nov 20 18:51 |
| schestowitz | just had 3 cups of coffee with no sugar | Nov 20 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I added a mouse gestures extension to Firefox | Nov 20 18:51 |
| schestowitz | millk diluted in hot water with some ground dirt :-) | Nov 20 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | got so used to using them in Opera that when I start Firefox and they don't work, it's annoying | Nov 20 18:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: use mouse gentures in Linux | Nov 20 18:51 |
| schestowitz | get wayv | Nov 20 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | oh I see | Nov 20 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | one is a 6570 | Nov 20 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I used it for a while in 2004 | Nov 20 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | the other is a 6670 | Nov 20 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | herp derp | Nov 20 18:52 |
| schestowitz | you can launch applications with strokes on the screen | Nov 20 18:52 |
| schestowitz | better yet, get xbingkeys | Nov 20 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I am still using it very extensively to launch apps | Nov 20 18:52 |
| schestowitz | !google schestowitz xbindkeys | Nov 20 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - schestowitz.com » Linux | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/linux/page/2/ | Nov 20 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Re: How to disable F10 key? - Schestowitz, Roy | http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2006/February_2006_1/msg00057.html | Nov 20 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Attempts to Push Mono Into Awn | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/09/mono-csharp-applets-docks/ | Nov 20 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | xbingkeys? | Nov 20 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | bing? | Nov 20 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | ballmer has x keys? | Nov 20 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Islands_%28GPU_family%29 | Nov 20 18:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Northern Islands (GPU family) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 71.12 KB | Nov 20 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking for something in the Northern Islands ;) | Nov 20 18:56 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | typo | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | bongbong | Nov 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz | say bong, biaaaaaaach | Nov 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz | !google recalls last word from ballmer | Nov 20 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | the power usage came down a lot between r700 and Evergreen | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - A Brand Building Literature Review | http://www.brandchannel.com/images/papers/257_a_brand_building_literature_review.pdf | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Boot up: Twitter's paradox, should Ballmer go?, RIM's Fed bump and ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/jun/13/technology-links-newsbucket | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Balmer Legacy | http://www.wepreserve.org/BalmerLegacy.html | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft board gives Ballmer a 2% pay increase, says he's ... | http://www.geekwire.com/2011/microsoft-board-gives-ballmer-slight-bump-in-salary-bonus | Nov 20 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | Evergreen being what I use now | Nov 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube bing recalls last word from ballmer | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bing - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7GM4Lt5k24s | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft employees allegedly left “in droves” during Ballmer's ... | http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-employees-allegedly-left-in-droves-during-ballmers-company-meeting-speech/ | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - DailyTech - Influential Investor Cries for Microsoft's Ballmer to Resign | http://www.dailytech.com/Influential%2BInvestor%2BCries%2Bfor%2BMicrosofts%2BBallmer%2Bto%2BResign/article21736.htm | Nov 20 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - IT Support | Office 365 Launches in June, Ballmer Says. | http://www.trigonit.com/tech-blog/bid/63229/IT-Support-Office-365-Launches-in-June-Ballmer-Says | Nov 20 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | but the difference between Evergreen and Northern Islands is very small | Nov 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | performance is up a bit | Nov 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I'll just stick to Evergreen until the RadeonHD 7000 series is out | Nov 20 19:00 |
| schestowitz | !google evergreen streisand | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Barbra Streisand - Evergreen (live) - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkmuF3jiufww | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - A star is born - Evergreen - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DL7AIBlzCluc | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Evergreen (Love Theme from A Star Is Born) - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_(Love_Theme_from_A_Star_Is_Born) | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Evergreen by Barbra Streisand Songfacts | http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php%3Fid%3D7245 | Nov 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | the Northern Islands cards don't seem to make any huge improvements | Nov 20 19:00 |
| schestowitz | !google evergreen sandy bridge | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - HWiNFO, HWiNFO32 & HWiNFO64 - Hardware Information and ... | http://www.hwinfo.com/ | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Our Store Locations : Frozen Yogurt Shops : Ice Cream Shop ... | http://menchies.com/locations.php | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - AMD A8-3850 Llano Desktop Processor Review - Can AMD ... | http://pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-3850-Llano-Desktop-Processor-Review-Can-AMD-compete-Sandy-Bridge/Llano-Gr | Nov 20 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - DailyTech - Fusion Powers AMD to Profit, Strong Earnings | http://www.dailytech.com/Fusion%2BPowers%2BAMD%2Bto%2BProfit%2BStrong%2BEarnings/article21445.htm | Nov 20 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | they have displayport | Nov 20 19:01 |
| schestowitz | !google sucks | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Urban Dictionary: sucks | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dsucks | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - A defense of the word sucks. - Slate Magazine | http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_good_word/2006/08/suck_it_up.html | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Suck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suck | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - sucks - definition of sucks by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ... | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sucks | Nov 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | performance has gone up 10-15% from their Evergreen counterparts | Nov 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | power usage has only gone down abotu 5% | Nov 20 19:01 |
| schestowitz | !google dawn happy ending | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Amazon.com: The Vicar of Dibley - A Holy Wholly Happy Ending ... | http://www.amazon.com/Vicar-Dibley-Wholly-Happy-Ending/dp/B000SINSVC | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Gary and Dawn's Happy Ending - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTj9HeLyFe3E | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Tinhattery, happy endings, and Breaking Dawn - Librarilly Blonde | http://blogs.bccls.org/carlie/index.php%3F/archives/126-Tinhattery,-happy-endings,-and-Breaking-Dawn.html | Nov 20 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Happy Endings, Satisfying Endings & Abiding Hope « Dawn Metcalf | http://www.dawnmetcalf.com/happy-endings-satisfying-endings-abiding-hope/ | Nov 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | not worth the money | Nov 20 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 20 19:01 |
| schestowitz | yeah.. | Nov 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | r700 to Evergreen was a major redesign | Nov 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | performance went way up | Nov 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | power use went way down | Nov 20 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | good upgrade | Nov 20 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | then came the compulsory price cuts of Evergreen | Nov 20 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | to clear a huge stock of them | Nov 20 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | so sometimes you can get an Evergreen much cheaper it seems | Nov 20 19:04 |
| schestowitz | energy consumption is overrated | Nov 20 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | so even if you made a purchase now, you may want an Evergreen | Nov 20 19:04 |
| schestowitz | making new chips causes lots of pollution | Nov 20 19:04 |
| schestowitz | and is expensive to purchase | Nov 20 19:04 |
| schestowitz | you could reuse old computers that may be more power-greedy | Nov 20 19:04 |
| schestowitz | and maybe remove parts from them like monitors that take up some power | Nov 20 19:05 |
| schestowitz | or use a better profile for the cpu | Nov 20 19:05 |
| schestowitz | remove gpu | Nov 20 19:05 |
| schestowitz | etc. | Nov 20 19:05 |
| schestowitz | I had this discussion last week in a group in Manchester where we plan to put Freedom Box around | Nov 20 19:05 |
| schestowitz | and we got space in a DC donated | Nov 20 19:05 |
| schestowitz | So in our meeting at the Northern Quarter I suggested just using old machines | Nov 20 19:06 |
| schestowitz | And not those overrated "plugs" that need buying anew | Nov 20 19:06 |
| schestowitz | for like over 100 quid apiece | Nov 20 19:06 |
| schestowitz | eventually, all those benchmarks with power are overrated | Nov 20 19:06 |
| schestowitz | if you want lower bills, look after the energy greedy things | Nov 20 19:07 |
| schestowitz | hot water | Nov 20 19:07 |
| schestowitz | washing machines | Nov 20 19:07 |
| schestowitz | that stuff | Nov 20 19:07 |
| schestowitz | computers don't affects the bill all that much and they can reduce the need to travel as much or use paper that requires energy to make and print on | Nov 20 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I always have at least two computers switched on all the time | Nov 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | and the electirc bill is not high | Nov 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | What you need in a GPU for gaming is not low power consumption | Nov 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | try to parallelise some old ones | Nov 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | and make them render polygons together | Nov 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | and then you don't need to make more and more of them from scratch | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | less pollution associated with breaking them down | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | ewaste | Nov 20 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I take a huge mound of laundry to the laundromat once a month | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | but... that would not be good for capitalism... MUST. ConSUME!. | Nov 20 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | toss is all into one of their turbo commercial washers | Nov 20 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | get it all done in one load | Nov 20 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | save a ton of time and money | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I used to do 8 at once | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | 8 machines | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | and then 5 dryers in lines | Nov 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | But now I wash at home | Nov 20 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | one of those turbo commercial washers is like $6 a load and does about 5 loads each run | Nov 20 19:10 |
| schestowitz | I used to do that late at night when everything was vacant and unused.. | Nov 20 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | a washer that does 1 load is $1.75 per run | Nov 20 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | you save some money and a lot of time | Nov 20 19:10 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 19:10 |
| schestowitz | time esp. | Nov 20 19:10 |
| schestowitz | If you have enough clothes to last two months, you can do it once in 8 weeks | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | rather than one load every week | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Then put it in a big pile and spend half an hour sorting | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | while watching some video.. | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 20 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | they're fast too | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | one hour | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | not 3 | Nov 20 19:11 |
| schestowitz | or less than one hour | Nov 20 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | commercial front loaders get that five loads done in under 40 minutes | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | 38 | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | depends on the cycle type | Nov 20 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | it beats burning up my whold day doing laundry a piece at a time | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | mine takes hours... and I can do just one at a time | Nov 20 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | *whole day | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | enjoy the automation... I miss that | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | but.. | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | the downside is, you get to wear clothes you don't quite like | Nov 20 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | what they need to put in is a commercial front load washer that automatically kicks over into a drying cycle without the user doing anything | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | in my case, I'd have huge piles and the favourite clothes go there early | Nov 20 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | toss it in, put in the soap | Nov 20 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | come back 2 hours later | Nov 20 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | and work serially | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | like... | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | I'd do it like this | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Fill all the line of machines | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | By colour | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | then go one by one, putting soap | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Then conditioner | Nov 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Like in a production line | Nov 20 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't wear light colors | Nov 20 19:14 |
| schestowitz | then pull out a pile of coina | Nov 20 19:14 |
| schestowitz | run them one by one | Nov 20 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | I can get away with throwing anything I wear in with each other | Nov 20 19:14 |
| schestowitz | and they all will finish at the same time | Nov 20 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Then you come back, move them one by one to the dryers | Nov 20 19:14 |
| schestowitz | And one hour later scoop everything up... | Nov 20 19:14 |
| schestowitz | I don't have a dryer at home now... uneconomic for one resident | Nov 20 19:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: depends though | Nov 20 19:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you don't want to overmix | Nov 20 19:15 |
| schestowitz | you can hot-wash whites | Nov 20 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | AMD is pulling the crap Nvidia used to with the naming | Nov 20 19:15 |
| schestowitz | that beats doing it cold | Nov 20 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | they make minor upgrades and advertise them as a whole new generation of GPU | Nov 20 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Do they still use the ATI brand as much? | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | They seem to use the Radeon brand more | Nov 20 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | they get all the people who are obsessive about having "the latest" go out and buy something that's not much faster | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ lscpu | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Architecture: i686 | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | CPU op-mode(s): 64-bit | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | CPU(s): 2 | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Thread(s) per core: 1 | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Core(s) per socket: 2 | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | CPU socket(s): 1 | Nov 20 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD | Nov 20 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nothing in the northern islands "family" says ATI on it | Nov 20 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | Evergreen was the last one that even identifies itself as an ATI Radeon | Nov 20 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | internally | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | On the computational clusters: | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | >> system('lscpu') | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Architecture: x86_64 | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | CPU(s): 8 | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Thread(s) per core: 2 | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Core(s) per socket: 4 | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | CPU socket(s): 1 | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | NUMA node(s): 1 | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Vendor ID: GenuineIntel | Nov 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | I got two of those.. | Nov 20 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | hyperbullshit | Nov 20 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's back | Nov 20 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 20 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | they tried it with the Pentium 4 | Nov 20 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | because it had a terribly inefficient execution pipeline | Nov 20 19:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see http://schestowitz.com/Misc_Pages/Efficiency/ | Nov 20 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Efficiency Tips .::. Size~: 7.33 KB | Nov 20 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | so they lie and say it's two processors so the OS puts some more stuff into a second queue | Nov 20 19:19 |
| schestowitz | under laundry | Nov 20 19:19 |
| schestowitz | it's old (2004), but might be funny to read now | Nov 20 19:19 |
| schestowitz | I still adhere to some of this stuff | Nov 20 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | I make 12 cups at once | Nov 20 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | tend to drink it through the day | Nov 20 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | coffee that is | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/852550 | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | No commercial enterprise, given time, can hope to compete with a continuous 24/7 development programme that has no labour overhead. Within a conventional commercial structure, if you add all your fixed and variable overheads together, they will still not equal your labour overhead - always the biggest. This is the basis for the international labour out-sourcing migration. | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | No matter how diversified or repetitive free/open source software development is, nothing is ever wasted, because all the code is open and all projects borrow from each other. | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | No conventional, commercial structure can compete with this, given the time factor. And it isn't. Microsoft's share values have been falling for years. They're trying to diversify all over the place because their mainline, despite lock in strategies such as their school supply programme, are not creating enough substantial value in reflected market sales because they have to drop the price so much or even give the stuff away as an | Nov 20 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | you don't need to leave it on a heating element to be scorched | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | investment in the future. | Nov 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | just get a huge insulated thermos | Nov 20 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | I got one at the second hand store for about $3 | Nov 20 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | big expensive steel thermos designed to last forever | Nov 20 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | and people throw this stuff out | Nov 20 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | dishes | Nov 20 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | all my dishes came from the second hand store | Nov 20 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | laugh all you want | Nov 20 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | 25 cents for a coffee mug or go to Walmart and pay $3 for one | Nov 20 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I got a couch there that's in great condition, it has flower designs on it? so? | Nov 20 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | $30 couch cover from Walmart | Nov 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | looks like a brand new piece of furniture | Nov 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | should I go pay $500 for a couch? | Nov 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | no thank you | Nov 20 19:25 |
| prurigro | So where do you put your money DaemonFC? Sweet rig? | Nov 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | I live decently | Nov 20 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | within my means | Nov 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | some people worth three fulltime jobs | Nov 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | and barely get anything done | Nov 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | they are wasteful, they throw out perfectly good dishes and furniture and appliances that work | Nov 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | and then they go work more hours to buy ones that are a little newer | Nov 20 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's how people are | Nov 20 19:27 |
| prurigro | that's the world we've been trained to live in | Nov 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | they are convinced by advertising that they "deserve" everything they see | Nov 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | they "owe it to themselves" | Nov 20 19:27 |
| prurigro | not even deserve | Nov 20 19:27 |
| prurigro | need | Nov 20 19:27 |
| prurigro | for some kind of imagined social acceptance | Nov 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I have few things I squander on | Nov 20 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I admit electronics are one such thing | Nov 20 19:27 |
| prurigro | electronics are awesome, and typically worth every penny imo | Nov 20 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | "HEHE, LOOK AT ME!!!!" | Nov 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | "I HAVE A RECLINER!!!!" | Nov 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | "AND IT ONLY COST ME $400!" | Nov 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | "BUT DONT WORRY, I PUT IT ON STORE CREDIT AT 30%!" | Nov 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | "ITLL BE NICE UNTIL THE DOG TAKES A SHIT ON IT!!!!" | Nov 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | "DONT YOU THINK IT LOOKS NICE?" | Nov 20 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | "I THINK IT LOOKS NICE!" | Nov 20 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 20 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that is awful: rd @satipera Ben's Prison Blog "...the narrow path to release is oversubscribed." http://ur1.ca/5yl6u #injustice | Nov 20 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BEN'S PRISON BLOG: What a Shambles .::. Size~: 82.32 KB | Nov 20 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: One of my impulse buys this year was a huge computer monitor | Nov 20 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | huge compared to what I was using | Nov 20 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | but I noticed that I work faster with more screen space and a higher resolution | Nov 20 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | the fact video games are nicer on it is a bonus | Nov 20 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | it also uses less power | Nov 20 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | hooray :) | Nov 20 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | you talk about cramming in dozens of windows | Nov 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | web browsers | Nov 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | word processors | Nov 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Nov 20 19:32 | |
| DaemonFC | instant messaging, IRC, etc. | Nov 20 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | you end up running out of room a lot faster and end up taking time to manage windows instead | Nov 20 19:32 |
| prurigro | I actually read a study that showed increased size of computer monitor directly correlated with getting more work dne | Nov 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | small monitors with low resolution can destroy your workflow | Nov 20 19:33 |
| prurigro | totally | Nov 20 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Blast from the past: !Listening to Honeymoon Suite "Feel It Again" | Nov 20 19:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] http://ur1.ca/5yn43 | Nov 20 19:33 | |
| DaemonFC | so can bad software designed to work around small monitors | Nov 20 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Nov 20 19:33 |
| prurigro | having to alt tab between different ideas means committing stuff to memory between them, or losing track of things all around | Nov 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | like Unity ;) | Nov 20 19:34 |
| prurigro | lol unity is terrible | Nov 20 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | window based management beats application based management every time | Nov 20 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | on a large monitor | Nov 20 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | because you have the space for it | Nov 20 19:34 |
| prurigro | which is weird, because gnome3 can actually work rather nicely on a larger monitor in the same respect that unity fails | Nov 20 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | switching to per application workflow ends up killing you | Nov 20 19:34 |
| prurigro | yea, I think that must be it-- unity does application based without also adding window based | Nov 20 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | OK, it's not taking up as much space | Nov 20 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I remember reading his blog a really long time ago(before serious identica use.) Definitely an interesting read | Nov 20 19:35 | |
| DaemonFC | now I have to stop everything I'm doing and go on a fishing expedition for the right thing | Nov 20 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 20 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | you know what Unity reminds me of? | Nov 20 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUusX1Js6R0 | Nov 20 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sesame Street: Bert and Ernie Fish Call - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.9 KB | Nov 20 19:36 |
| prurigro | lol, I'm afriad to look, but lets check this out | Nov 20 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A 24 hours moratorium on consumer spending http://ur1.ca/5yn8f | Nov 20 19:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/rsandu-20111120T193600-4bdygw3.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.09 KB | Nov 20 19:38 |
| prurigro | my girlfriend gave me a strange look lol | Nov 20 19:39 |
| prurigro | word tho, yea, that feels about right | Nov 20 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | HERE APP WINDOW APP WINDOW APP WINDOW!!!!! | Nov 20 19:39 |
| prurigro | haha | Nov 20 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 20 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | there's one! | Nov 20 19:39 |
| prurigro | only instead of ust calling | Nov 20 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | HERE APP WINDOW APP WINDOW APP WINDOW!!!!! | Nov 20 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | and two! | Nov 20 19:39 |
| prurigro | its searching that ridiculous pane for the particular instance of the window you're looking for | Nov 20 19:40 |
| prurigro | I think idealy, having both window and application based management is key, since there are uses for both | Nov 20 19:40 |
| prurigro | but you need window management first and foremost | Nov 20 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | switching from one to the other shouldn't require extending the shell | Nov 20 19:41 |
| prurigro | yea true | Nov 20 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I use 3 monitors now, used to do 2 for 10 years straight, at work and at home | Nov 20 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | it should be an option | Nov 20 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | click here if you're on a tablet or netbook or something | Nov 20 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | click here if you have a BIG monitor | Nov 20 19:42 |
| prurigro | three! | Nov 20 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 19:42 |
| schestowitz | it directly affects, as you explained, the workflow and how the brain keeps track of complex routines | Nov 20 19:42 |
| prurigro | I think windows 8 is gonna be like that actually | Nov 20 19:42 |
| prurigro | choose tablet or desktop mode | Nov 20 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | the Metro nonsense | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | there is a double-screen tablet, but it's expensive | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | the slide-out dual-head laptops never caught on... cheaper to plug in an external one | Nov 20 19:43 |
| prurigro | not only how the brain keeps track, but also how our brains have been developed to keep track | Nov 20 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | they're just copying KDE again | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | KDE now not only has a desktop profile | Nov 20 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | and a netbook profile | Nov 20 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | but a tablet one as well | Nov 20 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | and it's the same KDE in any event, just different workflow | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | One major monitor would do, but these days, due to TVs catching on as smart TVs, the biggest monitors you can find got smaller | Nov 20 19:43 |
| prurigro | oh cool | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | and with lower res | Nov 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | also the departure from CRT made it worse | Nov 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Some old CRTs can do 2500px across, like the one I have here | Nov 20 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | kwin has a lot of different modes and options it can run in | Nov 20 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | it wouldn't be that hard to get mutter or compiz to be a jack of all trades from where they are now | Nov 20 19:44 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: oh word, you use CRTs? | Nov 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, one | Nov 20 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | but Unity is about unifying the GUI, and making it work bad everywhere | Nov 20 19:45 |
| schestowitz | it's very heavy,, about 30kg | Nov 20 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | no matter what you use it on, it compromises for devices you don't have | Nov 20 19:45 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: haha, yea, those things are ridiculously big | Nov 20 19:45 |
| schestowitz | they do high res and some are still mint | Nov 20 19:45 |
| schestowitz | can't get myself to throw out old CRTs unless I move houses | Nov 20 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Mint 12 has a good strategy | Nov 20 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | you can use it as a traditional desktop | Nov 20 19:46 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: yea, and while gnome is attempting a similar unification, unity is not pulling it off nearly as well | Nov 20 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | or disable the extensions and go back to GNOME 3 defaults | Nov 20 19:46 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: lol, well if you have space on your desk, I say continue using it-- that's the only reason I got rid of mine eventually | Nov 20 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | Mint 12 turns GNOME Shell into something more like KDE | Nov 20 19:46 |
| schestowitz | the nice thing about all these monitors is that they obviate the need for TV and TV licence... I can just stream live TV here | Nov 20 19:46 |
| prurigro | (a lack of space) | Nov 20 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | appropriate for all devices without compromising any of them | Nov 20 19:46 |
| schestowitz | that in itself is worth like a monitor and a half (brand new) per year | Nov 20 19:47 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: wait, really? that's actually very interesting-- how well would you say the more traditional gnome3 desktop works, in your opinion? | Nov 20 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | you mean the one Mint made with their extensions? | Nov 20 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I tried it out | Nov 20 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I like it more than GNOME 2 | Nov 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b5092.htm | Nov 20 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Watch BBC World News Live TV from United Kingdom. .::. Size~: 10.92 KB | Nov 20 19:48 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: how are the legality issues with that service? | Nov 20 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Mint is going to kill Ubuntu because of that ridiculous Unity crap | Nov 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I don't have TV receiving device | Nov 20 19:48 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: get out, I'm really interested now-- would that be in Mint Debian as well? | Nov 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | or a VCR... I gave those away to friends' family | Nov 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I don't have a TV card, either | Nov 20 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: It probably will eventually | Nov 20 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Debian doesn't have all of GNOME 3 yeat | Nov 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | It's no more problematic than watching BBC clips on youtube | Nov 20 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | even in testing | Nov 20 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | so Mint Debian uses GNOME 2 | Nov 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | and BBC World is a public service, there are many other channels | Nov 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Who would have thunk... BBC propaganda,. for 'f'ree' | Nov 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday they did some Libya propaganda for me | Nov 20 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Do you get BBC America? | Nov 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 20 19:49 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: you don't say- and haha, well its not all propaganda anymore than any station pumps is interests out | Nov 20 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | like on satellite providers or whatnot | Nov 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | unless i get cable | Nov 20 19:49 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: hmm, maybe I should stick to regular mint in that case- I was just apprehensive about having ubuntu as the underlying idea | Nov 20 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | prurigro: if my g/f moved in, I'd need to buya set | Nov 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | and cable and whatnot | Nov 20 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: As long as Ubuntu packages the shell, it's not really that much of a delta against Ubuntu | Nov 20 19:50 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: why not just start with showrss and get her hooked on that? worked for me :) | Nov 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | shoowrss? | Nov 20 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | they are using the same GNOME 3.2 packages Ubuntu does | Nov 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Not familiar.. | Nov 20 19:51 |
| prurigro | lemme get the link | Nov 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | movies are good, but getting HD is hard | Nov 20 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | probably the hardest thing they had to do was write the shell extensions they use | Nov 20 19:51 |
| prurigro | http://showrss.karmorra.info/ | Nov 20 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: showRSS + your favorite tv shows .::. Size~: 6.09 KB | Nov 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | and I live a mile from the cinema, so.. | Nov 20 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | the rest of it is from Ubuntu | Nov 20 19:51 |
| prurigro | ice films = streaming hd movies | Nov 20 19:51 |
| prurigro | and shows | Nov 20 19:51 |
| prurigro | too | Nov 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Bookmarked, thanks | Nov 20 19:51 |
| prurigro | the previous requires torrenting | Nov 20 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | ICE makes me think of this | Nov 20 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb_jLAisPzk | Nov 20 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Metallicops - YouTube .::. Size~: 91.68 KB | Nov 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | I follow about 120 youtube channels | Nov 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | and youtube sends me a list of new ones by email | Nov 20 19:52 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: does ubuntu actually have gnome 3.2? | Nov 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | But they run out fast | Nov 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: yeah, I think so | Nov 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Although I seem to recall it being crappy | Nov 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | 3.0 was in 11.0 | Nov 20 19:53 |
| prurigro | their version of gnome you mean? | Nov 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | and it wasn't loved | Nov 20 19:53 |
| prurigro | hmm, interesting | Nov 20 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Nov 20 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | they have the 3.2 shell packaged too | Nov 20 19:53 |
| prurigro | I mean, I'd never move to ubuntu haha, but its curious nonetheless | Nov 20 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | you can use it in Ubuntu | Nov 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | kari: BTW, I am going to review Entropy Key soon... haven't had the time yet | Nov 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | BTW, techrights is ona new rack now | Nov 20 19:54 |
| schestowitz | still with two cores | Nov 20 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6udST6lbE&feature=related | Nov 20 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Metallica Napster Bad - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.28 KB | Nov 20 19:55 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: Ubutnu is how Linux desktop is judged by the "masses" | Nov 20 19:55 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: lol, you've just reminded me why I dislike Metallica so very much <3 | Nov 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: LOL, never seen it before, just known the remark from their lead guy | Nov 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Metallica has no good songs | Nov 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Good noise... if you try to scare away your neighbours | Nov 20 19:57 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: unfortunately, the masses will never see linux in its true form-- remember when mandrake linux was how the masses saw it? | Nov 20 19:58 |
| prurigro | or redhat | Nov 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | needs marketing | Nov 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | doesn't matter thugh | Nov 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | not they have some silly dancing robot and names of desserts | Nov 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | And Fedora tries that too with "beefy selight" | Nov 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | maybe they can name Fedora after meats now | Nov 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Fedora 18 Chicken Little | Nov 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | beefy miracle | Nov 20 19:59 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 19:59 |
| prurigro | I haven't tried fedora since it came out, but my experience with redhat before that essentially reflects my feelings on ubuntu | Nov 20 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat 8 was pretty horrifying | Nov 20 20:00 |
| prurigro | lol! oh man | Nov 20 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | there's still a port of that Bluecurve crap to KDE 4 | Nov 20 20:00 |
| prurigro | I totally forgot about bluecurve | Nov 20 20:00 |
| prurigro | it actually had a slight novel appeal for the first day or so | Nov 20 20:00 |
| prurigro | but it grew tired very quickly | Nov 20 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | There has been controversy surrounding the theme, especially the alterations to KDE, which were sufficiently severe as to cause developer Bernhard Rosenkraenzer to quit Red Hat "mostly in mutual agreement — I don't want to work on crippling KDE, and they don't want an employee who admits RHL 8.0's KDE is crippleware."[2][3] | Nov 20 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | -Wikipedia | Nov 20 20:01 |
| prurigro | lmao | Nov 20 20:01 |
| prurigro | crippleware added to list of hilarious terms | Nov 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://etutorials.org/shared/images/tutorials/tutorial_99/541331fg0908.jpg | Nov 20 20:02 |
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| DaemonFC | a project to make KDE look just like GNOME | Nov 20 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/rh8defaultdesk.png | Nov 20 20:02 |
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| DaemonFC | there's GNOME | Nov 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/rh8start.png | Nov 20 20:03 |
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| DaemonFC | still GNOME | Nov 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | looks almost like KDE | Nov 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | which was the point | Nov 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | so why not just drop one or the other? | Nov 20 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | If they're both going to behave exactly the same way | Nov 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | but you only put effort into improving one of them | Nov 20 20:04 |
| prurigro | haha, yea, the actual purpose was to unify the themes wasn't it | Nov 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | (GNOME at the time) | Nov 20 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/rh8themes.png | Nov 20 20:05 |
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| DaemonFC | blaghth!!! | Nov 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | at least back then gnome was trying to behave like kde | Nov 20 20:05 |
| MinceR | not like macos | Nov 20 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I still remember those | Nov 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/mkdectrlcenter2.png | Nov 20 20:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Same version of KDE | Nov 20 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | on Mandriva instead | Nov 20 20:05 |
| prurigro | MinceR: I wouldn't say gnome works much like macos beyond in some respects, the launcher bar | Nov 20 20:06 |
| MinceR | prurigro: they copied crApple's HIG | Nov 20 20:06 |
| schestowitz | they screwed with that old screwdriver picture | Nov 20 20:06 |
| schestowitz | now both kde and gnome have a new layout and name for systemsettings | Nov 20 20:06 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: oh man, I remember how exciting kde3 was when it finally came out- it looks so old school now though :) | Nov 20 20:06 |
| Faither | even the same name ^^ | Nov 20 20:06 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 20:07 |
| schestowitz | !google systemsettings controversy | Nov 20 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Siri hack allows you to access system settings and apps with your ... | http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/10/2551880/siri-iphone-hack-settings-apps | Nov 20 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - GNOME Shell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell | Nov 20 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Advanced system settings locked, need to get at environment ... | http://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/kzzst/advanced_system_settings_locked_need_to_get_at/ | Nov 20 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Title: Revamping Indian Education System: Setting a Democratic ... | http://wikieducator.org/images/6/69/M._V._Lakshmi_Reddy.pdf | Nov 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | prurigro: and in general gnome likes to use the "it would confuse noobs" excuse for removing features | Nov 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/mdrvinstall.png | Nov 20 20:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Mandriva 2010, the last version that made sense | Nov 20 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Mageia 1 is a very updated fork of that | Nov 20 20:07 |
| prurigro | MincerR: you mean their HIG for specifically the launcher bar? | Nov 20 20:07 |
| MinceR | no, their HIG for the entire DE | Nov 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | this guy did something weird with his partitioning | Nov 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | stuff like crApple's idiotic dialog button order | Nov 20 20:08 |
| schestowitz | "powerpack" | Nov 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen an error like that | Nov 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/mdrvdefault.jpg | Nov 20 20:08 |
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| prurigro | MinceR: the multiple desktops, window management, application switching etc don't work much like OSX at all | Nov 20 20:08 |
| MinceR | prurigro: those were left over from when they were copying KDE | Nov 20 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/mdrvfileman.png | Nov 20 20:09 |
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| MinceR | don't worry, they'll destroy those too | Nov 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I liked this theme | Nov 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz doesn't | Nov 20 20:09 |
| Faither | DaemonFC: what about the '11 release of mandriva? | Nov 20 20:09 |
| prurigro | MinceR: they also have two sets of configurations, one for simple stuff everyone needs frequently, and one more complex with tweaks you'll likely only change once- and as a power user, I'm fine with that setup | Nov 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Faither: The Russians ruined it | Nov 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | the GUI is nothing like KDE | Nov 20 20:09 |
| Faither | it did have a weird feel to it ^^ | Nov 20 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | it uses the unpopular rpm5 fork | Nov 20 20:09 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: is that latest pic kde4? | Nov 20 20:10 |
| MinceR | they'll get here eventually >> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Next-gnome.png | Nov 20 20:10 |
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| DaemonFC | which is now rpm6 upstream because Mandriva did things they didn't like | Nov 20 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | so they're using a dead fork of RPM that was never well supported | Nov 20 20:10 |
| MinceR | prurigro: yes, they copied the registry, go them | Nov 20 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | they have GRUB legacy | Nov 20 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | and an old snapshot of systemd | Nov 20 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/fd13defaultdesk.jpg | Nov 20 20:11 |
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| DaemonFC | the high water mark of Fedora GNOME | Nov 20 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://desktoplinux.com/files/misc/gnome_gnome3_final.png | Nov 20 20:11 |
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| DaemonFC | now it looks like this | Nov 20 20:12 |
| prurigro | MinceR: what's this a picture of? and hey, everyones copying everything else with a short additional step towards something new in the end, its what you choose to implement and whether it works that matters | Nov 20 20:12 |
| Faither | DaemonFC: people are cheering though xD | Nov 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | in the clipart | Nov 20 20:12 |
| Faither | ^^ | Nov 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | notice they're not cheering while using GNOME 3 | Nov 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | they'd be screaming | Nov 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | and running | Nov 20 20:12 |
| MinceR | they shouldn't scream, just run over to XFCE | Nov 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora's KDE and XFCE spins are still fantastic | Nov 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/nbsd5firefox.png | Nov 20 20:13 |
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| DaemonFC | a much superior GUI to GNOME 3 | Nov 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 20 20:13 |
| MinceR | also to macos and winblows | Nov 20 20:14 |
| prurigro | fvwn | Nov 20 20:14 |
| MinceR | it's twm, actually :> | Nov 20 20:14 |
| prurigro | err, true | Nov 20 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/win95desktop2.png | Nov 20 20:14 |
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| DaemonFC | another one | Nov 20 20:14 |
| Faither | argh!! | Nov 20 20:14 |
| Faither | haha kind of reminds me how i rooted every computer at school xD | Nov 20 20:15 |
| prurigro | lol, rooted... win95? | Nov 20 20:16 |
| Faither | they had this weird GUI on top of windows | Nov 20 20:16 |
| Faither | which restricted access to programs you could run xD | Nov 20 20:16 |
| prurigro | lol! | Nov 20 20:16 |
| Faither | i didn't like it so i started without it ^^ | Nov 20 20:17 |
| prurigro | like running as super user and getting bash to run a password program before any restricted commands | Nov 20 20:17 |
| Faither | teachers weren't too happy about it but i was then again the only one able to fix problems without calling for tech support | Nov 20 20:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 20 20:17 |
| prurigro | yea, typically less restrictures = better for people who aren't idiots | Nov 20 20:18 |
| prurigro | unfortunately the world is catered to the lowest common denominator | Nov 20 20:19 |
| Faither | and this is a sad truth -.- | Nov 20 20:19 |
| prurigro | the government of canada actually works in a nice way in that respect mind you | Nov 20 20:20 |
| prurigro | they block out any possible means of any ordinary way to get additional programs installed/conventional ways to visit restricted sites etc | Nov 20 20:21 |
| prurigro | but they leave these extremely open holes for roundabout ways to get things working | Nov 20 20:21 |
| Faither | hehe | Nov 20 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 95 only understood the concept of one user | Nov 20 20:22 |
| prurigro | I feel like its almost a test to prove you're smart enough | Nov 20 20:22 |
| Faither | they were always so proud if a software update blocked me xD | Nov 20 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | and that one user had full access to everything | Nov 20 20:22 |
| Faither | 5 minutes later i showed them a different hole ^^ | Nov 20 20:22 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 20 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 introduced "multiple users" but they were still all the same user | Nov 20 20:22 |
| prurigro | yea, it only counts if it keeps you out for good | Nov 20 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | with different settings in WIndows for some things | Nov 20 20:22 |
| prurigro | lol yea it doesn't count if the abstraction is ontop of an admin account | Nov 20 20:23 |
| Faither | windows 95 multiple users were grate, you could restrict access with passwords | Nov 20 20:23 |
| Faither | or simply create new users without knowing the password and get access xD | Nov 20 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | how? | Nov 20 20:23 |
| Faither | by entering a new name | Nov 20 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | FAT has no security at all | Nov 20 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | if something is on FAT, any user can do anything to it under any OS | Nov 20 20:23 |
| MinceR | and people still sometimes defend single-user systems :> | Nov 20 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Why you should not rely on javascript encryption. http://is.gd/iqn4ps | Nov 20 20:24 | |
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| Faither | yep ^^ | Nov 20 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | NTFS was a major improvement over FAT, but it's still garbage | Nov 20 20:24 |
| Faither | dated nowadays ^^ | Nov 20 20:24 |
| prurigro | isn't there still a flat earth society too? | Nov 20 20:24 |
| Faither | 11 years later ^^ | Nov 20 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Nov 20 20:24 |
| MinceR | like whatever the still-not-quite-dead fork or reimplementation of BeOS is called :> | Nov 20 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | though I think they're joking | Nov 20 20:24 |
| prurigro | lol, I hope so! | Nov 20 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: it has elements of a fork | Nov 20 20:25 |
| prurigro | lol, I'd always hoped open beos would come out | Nov 20 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | the shell of BeOS was open sourced before Be collapsed | Nov 20 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | so it uses a fork of the original BeOS shell | Nov 20 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | most of the rest of the system is from scratch | Nov 20 20:25 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: really? they should port it to linux | Nov 20 20:25 |
| prurigro | though I guess the shell was pretty ingrained in the OS | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | they also open sources some minor stuff here and there | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | so some of the system is a fork of BeOS | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | but not the bulk of it | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | *sourced | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: single user systems are fine | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | if you only have one local user and no connection to an untrusted network | Nov 20 20:26 |
| Faither | iOS? xd | Nov 20 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | like the Internet | Nov 20 20:26 |
| Faither | not fine! | Nov 20 20:26 |
| prurigro | iOS? | Nov 20 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | they're not suitable for a modern system | Nov 20 20:27 |
| Faither | iOS is a single user system xD | Nov 20 20:27 |
| prurigro | no it isn't | Nov 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: and no buggy or untrusted applications | Nov 20 20:27 |
| prurigro | its unix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | because they're impossible to secure once more than one user is involved | Nov 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | no, it's not unix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | or one you network them | Nov 20 20:27 |
| prurigro | bsd unix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| prurigro | yes it is | Nov 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | it's the result of raping unix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | it supports none of the principles of unix and it is not compatible with unix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | it is not compliant with posix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| MinceR | therefore it is not unix | Nov 20 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | it has the trademark | Nov 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG | Nov 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:28 |
| prurigro | MinceR: well I haven't looked into its compatibility with unix, but it certainly has multiple users | Nov 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's unix! | Nov 20 20:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: well, then winblows nt is unix | Nov 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | don't take out 1-800-ITS-UNIX without paying the Open Group though | Nov 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | BSD OS foundthat out | Nov 20 20:28 |
| MinceR | prurigro: actually it has one user: apple | Nov 20 20:28 |
| prurigro | windows nt is VAX | Nov 20 20:28 |
| MinceR | prurigro: sometimes they're kind enough to let someone else use it | Nov 20 20:28 |
| MinceR | no, windows nt isn't VAX | Nov 20 20:28 |
| MinceR | it's VMS pretending to be CP/M | Nov 20 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | at that time it was the AT&T UNIX Systems Laboratory that you had to license it from though | Nov 20 20:29 |
| prurigro | MinceR: default user is 'mobile', there's also a root user | Nov 20 20:29 |
| MinceR | but it also tried to have posix compliance, at which it failed hard | Nov 20 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | they say laboratory | Nov 20 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | almost all of the innovations in UNIX in the 80s were from BSD | Nov 20 20:29 |
| prurigro | MinceR: its based on what once was VAX, its roots aren't in unixx | Nov 20 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T sat on their fat asses, licensed the core code | Nov 20 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | and sued anyone who tried to call anything else UNIX | Nov 20 20:30 |
| MinceR | didn't they pay for some unix trademark license once? | Nov 20 20:30 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: and why do you care what some worthless company that's mismanaging the unix trademark says? | Nov 20 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: BSDI junked BSD/OS | Nov 20 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | and changed their name to ixSystems | Nov 20 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | they are the ones who make PC-BSD now | Nov 20 20:31 |
| prurigro | MinceR: http://www.lhotka.net/weblog/FromVAXToWindows.aspx | Nov 20 20:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rockford Lhotka - From VAX to Windows .::. Size~: 61.12 KB | Nov 20 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | PC-BSD is just a user friendly layer on top of the really unfriendly FreeBSD system | Nov 20 20:31 |
| MinceR | prurigro: VAX is a computer, not an OS | Nov 20 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | it makes it easier to start out with a working desktop system | Nov 20 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | and introduces binary packages | Nov 20 20:32 |
| MinceR | prurigro: the OS it came with is called VMS | Nov 20 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | you can use ports though | Nov 20 20:32 |
| MinceR | yes, if i want packages that don't work, i'll use ports :> | Nov 20 20:32 |
| prurigro | ahh, I'd always considered the two kind of one in the same, point taken though | Nov 20 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The PC-BSD installer offers you a choice | Nov 20 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | PC-BSD or FreeBSD | Nov 20 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | you can use their isntaller as just a much nicer FreeBSD installer | Nov 20 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you want | Nov 20 20:33 |
| MinceR | will it install MySQL on FreeBSD in a way that it can actually be run? | Nov 20 20:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 20 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | no, you end up with the FreeBSD core system | Nov 20 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | without even an X server | Nov 20 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you choose FreeBSD | Nov 20 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | PC-BSD has KDE and everything | Nov 20 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | and PBI packages | Nov 20 20:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 20 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | they resemble installshield installers from Windows | Nov 20 20:34 |
| MinceR | ew | Nov 20 20:34 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 20 20:34 |
| MinceR | installshield is one of the worst pieces of software i've ever used | Nov 20 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | there's better installers for Windows | Nov 20 20:35 |
| MinceR | yes | Nov 20 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | NSIS is probably the best | Nov 20 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullsoft_Scriptable_Install_System | Nov 20 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nullsoft Scriptable Install System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 62.46 KB | Nov 20 20:35 |
| MinceR | the challenge would actually be finding one that's worse | Nov 20 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | you see NSIS a lot because it is free and open source | Nov 20 20:35 |
| Faither | Nullsoft wrote some nice applications | Nov 20 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | people can just take it and use it | Nov 20 20:35 |
| prurigro | Faither+1 | Nov 20 20:36 |
| Faither | too bad they sold out )= | Nov 20 20:36 |
| prurigro | AOL :( | Nov 20 20:36 |
| MinceR | too bad those were for winblows | Nov 20 20:36 |
| prurigro | also true | Nov 20 20:36 |
| prurigro | waste had a linux server | Nov 20 20:36 |
| prurigro | but no linux client | Nov 20 20:36 |
| prurigro | coulda caught on otherwise, I think | Nov 20 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp ended up on Linux | Nov 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | briefly | Nov 20 20:37 |
| prurigro | did it? | Nov 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | a Winamp 3 beta | Nov 20 20:37 |
| Faither | yes | Nov 20 20:37 |
| prurigro | no kidding | Nov 20 20:37 |
| MinceR | i've never seen it | Nov 20 20:37 |
| Faither | but winamp 3 was horrible ^^ | Nov 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | with almost no plugins except MP3, AAC, Vorbis, and Flac | Nov 20 20:37 |
| prurigro | lol, sounds crippled? | Nov 20 20:37 |
| MinceR | but i had XMMS/BMP/Audacious which was much better anyway | Nov 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | the plugins on the Windows version are mostly proprietary | Nov 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | and could not be ported | Nov 20 20:37 |
| MinceR | with more input plugins than winamp had | Nov 20 20:37 |
| prurigro | cms ftw | Nov 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | so they just gave up trying to make Winamp for Linux | Nov 20 20:37 |
| MinceR | audacious seems to be getting worse now, though :/ | Nov 20 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://images.six.betanews.com/screenshots/1002748075-1.jpg | Nov 20 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Nov 20 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp 3 | Nov 20 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Linux edition | Nov 20 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Winamp-3-for-Linux/1002748075/1 | Nov 20 20:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Winamp 3 for Linux Free Download and Reviews - Fileforum .::. Size~: 27 KB | Nov 20 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | (October 9, 2001) | Nov 20 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | so it hasn't been maintained in 10 years | Nov 20 20:39 |
| prurigro | sweet jesus haha | Nov 20 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | and it probably won't even run | Nov 20 20:39 |
| prurigro | probably one of those things where they realized it was pointless unless theye maintained it indefinitely, or released the source | Nov 20 20:40 |
| Faither | no, they sold out to AOL shortly after | Nov 20 20:40 |
| prurigro | oh, was that pre-AOL> | Nov 20 20:40 |
| prurigro | explains | Nov 20 20:41 |
| Faither | i think | Nov 20 20:41 |
| prurigro | the one thing thye really had going for them for a while imo was milkdrop | Nov 20 20:41 |
| Faither | ^^ | Nov 20 20:41 |
| prurigro | but I'd say projectM has surpassed that these days | Nov 20 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | there's no Windows 64-bit port of WInamp | Nov 20 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | I asked one of the developers about it in their forum | Nov 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | they said there will never be one | Nov 20 20:42 |
| *schestowitz has noticed that since AOL bought HuffPost there is not much visibility for that site and probably not as many contributors, either. Same for TechCrunch to an extent... | Nov 20 20:42 | |
| prurigro | never?! | Nov 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | for the same reason a Linux port never happened | Nov 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | the plugins are proprietary | Nov 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | a 64-bit Winamp would break the ABI | Nov 20 20:42 |
| prurigro | can't they be recompiled? | Nov 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not even portable to Windows x64 | Nov 20 20:42 |
| prurigro | well, its doomed | Nov 20 20:42 |
| prurigro | then | Nov 20 20:42 |
| Faither | yep | Nov 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | they could, if you tracked down everyone that ever made a Winamp plugin | Nov 20 20:42 |
| prurigro | just waiting to become irrelevant | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | and get them to agree to recompile | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:43 |
| prurigro | oh man, that's how it is then eh? | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | so it's basically on borrowed time even on WIndows | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | it will never be 64-bit | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | it will never be a Metro app | Nov 20 20:43 |
| prurigro | makes me that much more glad for projectm | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's stuck as a 32-bit application | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | that has to be compiled just so | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Nov 20 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:44 |
| prurigro | lol, ;) woulda worked for in a mwahaha kinda way | Nov 20 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's an unworkable mess | Nov 20 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | and the only reason it goes on is because 64-bit Windows has a backward compatibility layer | Nov 20 20:44 |
| Faither | ever since the aol thing winamp tried to SHARE your userdate with the internet like crazy | Nov 20 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | for backwards proprietary software | Nov 20 20:44 |
| Faither | you had to search through every options menu and untick this carp | Nov 20 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | AOL ruined everything they ever bought | Nov 20 20:45 |
| Faither | as did other igger companies xD | Nov 20 20:45 |
| Faither | bigger^ | Nov 20 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | if they never bought Nullsoft, there probably would be a Linux and Win64 version of Winamp | Nov 20 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | and hell, Mac OS maybe | Nov 20 20:45 |
| prurigro | any idea why they were purchased? | Nov 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | they buy, they don't want to invest in the quality of the application | Nov 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | they build tons of whorebars and spyware and self-promoting crap into it | Nov 20 20:46 |
| Faither | maybe to get user statistics | Nov 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | then spend the next years running it into the ground | Nov 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | no, they make money from WInamp | Nov 20 20:46 |
| Faither | I mean every plugin after that was sharing user statistics | Nov 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | there's the Pro version, but there's also the paid services from within Winamp | Nov 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the spyware it installs into your system | Nov 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the toolbars from Ask.com | Nov 20 20:47 |
| Faither | har har ^^ | Nov 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | they tried to run Netscape the same way | Nov 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | and nearly killed Mozilla in doing so | Nov 20 20:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Newegg's Black November sale today is 15% off all major appliances | Nov 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | and 10% off all Microsoft Office licenses | Nov 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | bah | Nov 20 20:49 |
| schestowitz | I used to work for the AOL-owned Netscape | Nov 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | I picked up another thumbdrive when they had them 20% off | Nov 20 20:49 |
| schestowitz | a customer called some minutes ago and wanted some further work... if I can get enough client I might be able to drop some other jobs and work directly with them. | Nov 20 20:49 |
| Faither | they could give MS office out for free and i'd still gladly avoid using it | Nov 20 20:49 |
| prurigro | wait, AOL owned netscape? | Nov 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | 10% probably represents their cut for promoting Microsoft Office | Nov 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft isn't giving a discount | Nov 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Newegg is giving up their commission | Nov 20 20:50 |
| Faither | I'm just saying, i don't care about any discount on any MS products ^^ | Nov 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | it draws people to Newegg | Nov 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: !google aol netscape | Nov 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | they sell MS Office at a break even | Nov 20 20:51 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: what was your experience with that? if there were no NDAs | Nov 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | !google aol netscape | Nov 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - AOL.com - Netscape | http://netscape.aol.com/ | Nov 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - AOL.com - News, Sports, Weather, Entertainment, Local & Lifestyle | http://www.aol.com/ | Nov 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - AOL buys Netscape for $4.2 billion - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/2100-1023-218360.html | Nov 20 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Netscape Mail - AOL.com | http://mail.netscape.com/ | Nov 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | get you to look around while you're there | Nov 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | buy something MS doesn't take 90% of | Nov 20 20:51 |
| prurigro | hmm, you don't say lol | Nov 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | like all AOL buyouts | Nov 20 20:51 |
| prurigro | explains a lot though | Nov 20 20:51 |
| schestowitz | they didn't manage to make much out of it | Nov 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | and they cancelled netscape development, officially about 4 years ago | Nov 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | !google arrintgon about aol | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Joie De Vivre: The Europeans Are Out To Lunch | TechCrunch | http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/13/joie-de-vivre-the-europeans-are-out-to-lunch/ | Nov 20 20:52 |
| Faither | giant mega corps like breaking things | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Photography by Jacqueline | http://blog.photographybyjacqueline.com/archives/410 | Nov 20 20:52 |
| prurigro | hmm, yea, I remember catching wind of the 'end of netscape', and I was surprised there even still was a netscape | Nov 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | !google arrington about aol | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Michael Arrington and AOL Part Company - NYTimes.com | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/technology/michael-arrington-and-aol-part-company.html | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Au Revoir, Mike: Arrington and AOL Part Ways - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/09/12/au-revoir-mike-arrington-and-aol-part-ways/ | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Editorial Independence | TechCrunch | http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/06/editorial-independence/ | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Arrington out at AOL (for real this time) - The Term Sheet: Fortune's ... | http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/09/07/exclusive-arrington-out-at-aol-for-real-this-time/ | Nov 20 20:52 |
| schestowitz | !google aol huffington lawsuit | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - AOL, Arianna Huffington Hit with Class Action Suit - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/04/12/aol-arianna-huffington-hit-with-class-action-suit/ | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bloggers take legal action over Huffington Post sale | Media ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/12/arianna-huffington-post-sale | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - AOL and Huffington Post sued by unpaid bloggers | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/12/us-huffington-lawsuit-idUSTRE73B5JT20110412 | Nov 20 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - AOL, Huffington Post sued by unpaid writers - Business - US ... | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42557983/ns/business-us_business/t/aol-huffington-post-sued-unpaid-writers/ | Nov 20 20:52 |
| prurigro | the one mega corp buyout that surprised me was virutalbox via oracle | Nov 20 20:53 |
| XFaCE | AOL? More like LOL. | Nov 20 20:53 |
| schestowitz | LOL On Line | Nov 20 20:53 |
| schestowitz | It's a recursive acronym | Nov 20 20:53 |
| prurigro | and lol, huffington-- were they as ridiculously biased in their writing prior to the buyout? | Nov 20 20:53 |
| prurigro | ! | Nov 20 20:53 |
| prurigro | genius | Nov 20 20:54 |
| schestowitz | they were a misxture | Nov 20 20:54 |
| prurigro | =D | Nov 20 20:54 |
| schestowitz | they put some liar charlatans like Chora in | Nov 20 20:54 |
| schestowitz | and people who needed a platform, like Bill Gates | Nov 20 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape was one of my favorites at one point | Nov 20 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Huffington was seen as "independent" from the Big 6 | Nov 20 20:54 |
| prurigro | hmm, so similar to how it is now then eh? | Nov 20 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Now Gates is just buying placements at the BBC | Nov 20 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | promoted them heavily on my webstie | Nov 20 20:54 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights gates bbc | Nov 20 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - BBC Bribed by Bill Gates | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/29/gates-gives-bbc-money/ | Nov 20 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - ES: La BBC Sobornada por Bill Gates | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/28/gates-gives-bbc-money_es/ | Nov 20 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates-funded BBC Does Not Name That Web Browser | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/22/bbc-tilted-coverage/ | Nov 20 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/bill-gates/ | Nov 20 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | had a note saying "I don't test it in IE, it should work though" | Nov 20 20:55 |
| Faither | woah making a website IE compatible was/is a major pita! | Nov 20 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft said they didn't like someone with an MVP hat recommending other software | Nov 20 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I told them to make IE better then | Nov 20 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't long after that I gave up that MVP hat | Nov 20 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 20 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | the site went on for while | Nov 20 20:56 |
| prurigro | does the gates thing really have to do with microsoft? | Nov 20 20:57 |
| schestowitz | patents and ms | Nov 20 20:57 |
| schestowitz | and drm | Nov 20 20:57 |
| prurigro | despite the fact that he's essentially left the company? | Nov 20 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | MVP is unpaid Microsoft promoter | Nov 20 20:58 |
| schestowitz | he never left | Nov 20 20:58 |
| prurigro | hmm | Nov 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | and occasionally they give you toys | Nov 20 20:58 |
| schestowitz | just the daytime duties | Nov 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | licenses to their software | Nov 20 20:58 |
| schestowitz | he still lobbies for the Vole | Nov 20 20:58 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: He is still a chariman | Nov 20 20:58 |
| XFaCE | *chairman | Nov 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | maybe a GPU or something so you're knowledgeable about DirectX | Nov 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | now they pass out free laptops so people shill for Vista and 7 | Nov 20 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer chair >> Bill chair | Nov 20 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 20 20:59 |
| schestowitz | "CHAIR!! ARRRRGGHH" | Nov 20 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | at the time they said they wanted me to talk about DirectX, which was just gearing up | Nov 20 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | so I replied my GPU only recognized Glide and MiniGL | Nov 20 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer forgot to unmount Bill before launching him... | Nov 20 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | and so next thing I know, I get an Nvidia card in the mail | Nov 20 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 20:59 |
| Faither | lol | Nov 20 21:00 |
| schestowitz | the henchman and the Brain | Nov 20 21:00 |
| schestowitz | with capital | Nov 20 21:00 |
| schestowitz | meaning evil, not smart | Nov 20 21:00 |
| schestowitz | and Elop is Pinky | Nov 20 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | and in the same box was a licensed copy of Windows 98 | Nov 20 21:00 |
| schestowitz | stumbling along with the Brain/Borg | Nov 20 21:01 |
| schestowitz | passing patents for MOASAID to attack Linux via Canada | Nov 20 21:01 |
| schestowitz | *MOSAID | Nov 20 21:01 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: you're canadian, you should contact politicians about them | Nov 20 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I think there is already some invetigation, based on reports I saw long ago (and nothing about it since) | Nov 20 21:03 |
| prurigro | harper would be pointless to try and sway | Nov 20 21:03 |
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| prurigro | dalton has been rather receptive to sway in terms of tech rights though | Nov 20 21:04 |
| prurigro | as far as friends in the right places have attempted to probe his views anyway | Nov 20 21:05 |
| prurigro | so he might be a good person to notify of issues in this direction | Nov 20 21:05 |
| Faither | oh, pizza is now officially a vegetable in the US ^^ | Nov 20 21:05 |
| Faither | i laughed | Nov 20 21:05 |
| prurigro | a bird has told me harper is planning some dark things in terms of canadian tech rights though | Nov 20 21:06 |
| prurigro | unfortunately | Nov 20 21:06 |
| prurigro | I suppose we'll see what comes | Nov 20 21:06 |
| dyfet | Harper feels left out in the race to be the most repressive regime? | Nov 20 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have copied some scripts and find them useful. In another 10 years I could be a script kiddy. | Nov 20 21:07 | |
| prurigro | dyfet: he seems to be acting that way | Nov 20 21:07 |
| prurigro | he's also a classic narcisist, so he could just be power tripping, too | Nov 20 21:07 |
| dyfet | That has already been my observation from recent Canadian abuses of indigenous peoples... | Nov 20 21:08 |
| prurigro | dyfet: I used to work for corporate social responsibility in foreign affairs-- we're pretty terrible when it comes to aboriginals, and people from other countries in terms of mining specifically | Nov 20 21:09 |
| XFaCE | dyfet: Harper once commented on how he doesn't usually feel emotions except for pain. :P | Nov 20 21:10 |
| prurigro | the aboriginal are actually being worked with quite closely, and offered fairly reasonble things in general though | Nov 20 21:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I will not use them on principle as it doing people out of work. I realise that Luddism can only be taken so far. | Nov 20 21:10 | |
| prurigro | their problems at this point mostly stem from the aftermath of past injustices | Nov 20 21:10 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 20 21:11 |
| prurigro | http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=9c6b53f6-f0a2-4eca-93bb-559023144731 | Nov 20 21:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Harper gallery leaves MPs speechless .::. Size~: 110.82 KB | Nov 20 21:11 |
| prurigro | XFaCE: pain doesn't really read as a proper emotion to me lol | Nov 20 21:12 |
| dyfet | I am sadly well aware of this history as well...past injustice and genocide, and the murder of indiginous children at govt run boarding schools. Wrong place for an extended discussion, though. I do not want to hijack Roy's room, though ;) | Nov 20 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I will not use them on principle as it is doing people out of work. I realise that Luddism can only be taken so far. | Nov 20 21:12 | |
| prurigro | dyfet: yea, not to mention that at this point its mostly just trying to pick up the pieces, its a reality most are aware of on both sides | Nov 20 21:13 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: Some lolz from RMS | Nov 20 21:14 |
| XFaCE | "Pakistan has banned 1500 "rude words" in text messages. | Nov 20 21:14 |
| XFaCE | Some are entirely innocent. | Nov 20 21:14 |
| XFaCE | People will construct euphemisms for them, and those will be banned in turn. It will add up to a total pain in the donkey. | Nov 20 21:14 |
| XFaCE | But why wait — make it happen, and chose the words to make the system untenable. I suggest referring to male genitalia as "car" and female genitalia as "garage", as in "I want to have your car in my garage". When those words are banned, try "digit" and "ring"." | Nov 20 21:14 |
| dyfet | How rude of Pakistan! | Nov 20 21:14 |
| Faither | ^^ | Nov 20 21:14 |
| MinceR | i think they should just cut to the chase and ban all forms of communication | Nov 20 21:15 |
| Faither | might be more effective ^^ | Nov 20 21:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | or just superglue the lips of a woman to the base of the penis | Nov 20 21:15 |
| dyfet | mincer: i thought that was their goal.... | Nov 20 21:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | problem solved | Nov 20 21:15 |
| MinceR | whose penis? | Nov 20 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | their husband, of course | Nov 20 21:16 |
| prurigro | what happens when she gets hungry... | Nov 20 21:17 |
| Faither | it's going to hurt at some point i guess xD | Nov 20 21:17 |
| prurigro | lol, one of those eventualities in life eh? | Nov 20 21:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | prurigro: feed the guy extra vitamins. | Nov 20 21:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, the clams swear by vitamins too | Nov 20 21:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Squint :-) and sleep tight. #tzaf | Nov 20 21:22 | |
| XFaCE | hmmm, youtube is grey now | Nov 20 21:23 |
| prurigro | your account was 'upgraded' I guess? | Nov 20 21:23 |
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| Faither | youtube light? ^^ | Nov 20 21:26 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: I meant the entire site | Nov 20 21:29 |
| XFaCE | false alarm, the site's back to "normal" | Nov 20 21:30 |
| prurigro | yea, mine got switched over about a week ao | Nov 20 21:30 |
| prurigro | ago* | Nov 20 21:30 |
| prurigro | oh hm | Nov 20 21:30 |
| prurigro | thats weird | Nov 20 21:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Houston-area water system latest SCADA system to be penetrated. http://is.gd/YLiH8E | Nov 20 21:30 | |
| prurigro | mine never changed back | Nov 20 21:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Privacy and Security Fanatic: Hacker takes aim at Homeland, posts 'proof' of hacking SCADA for Houston's water supply .::. Size~: 93.46 KB | Nov 20 21:30 |
| prurigro | www.youtube.com/guide though eh? | Nov 20 21:30 |
| Faither | blank page for me ^^ | Nov 20 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Man Survives Steve Ballmer's Flying Chair To Build '21st Century !Linux' http://goo.gl/yWc2a | Nov 20 21:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Man Survives Steve Ballmer's Flying Chair To Build '21st Century Linux' | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.95 KB | Nov 20 21:32 |
| MinceR | blank page for me as well | Nov 20 21:32 |
| Faither | not much of a guide then | Nov 20 21:34 |
| prurigro | haha, well it seems like your account needs to be activated for it or something, and at that point youtube.com forwards you to that page | Nov 20 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Showed my dad that pepper spray photo | Nov 20 21:34 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Did you have any DMCA strikes that disappeared? | Nov 20 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | he said the only thing missing was the swastika armband on the cop | Nov 20 21:35 |
| prurigro | XFaCE: strikes? | Nov 20 21:35 |
| XFaCE | yeah, takedown notices | Nov 20 21:35 |
| prurigro | ahh, I don't upload to youtube because they do filters like that | Nov 20 21:36 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2434#comic | Nov 20 21:36 |
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| prurigro | so the answer would be nope, but only because I didn't have any strikes | Nov 20 21:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] For those that love lists: Top 6 !Linux and !BSD graphical installation programs http://goo.gl/NzOQM | Nov 20 21:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Top 6 Linux and BSD graphical installation programs .::. Size~: 112.83 KB | Nov 20 21:37 |
| prurigro | XFaCE: did you? | Nov 20 21:38 |
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| XFaCE | yes, and mine disapeared for no apparent reason fairly recently | Nov 20 21:39 |
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| prurigro | http://www.rifters.com/real/2009/01/iterating-towards-bethlehem.html | Nov 20 21:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: No Moods, Ads or Cutesy Fucking Icons (Reloaded).: Iterating Towards Bethlehem .::. Size~: 67.01 KB | Nov 20 21:40 |
| prurigro | XFaCE: maybe they gave everyone a fresh start along with their upgrade? sweet deal either way :) | Nov 20 21:41 |
| XFaCE | Or maybe with SOPA on the way, they said f**k it. | Nov 20 21:41 |
| Faither | SO(a)P - Let's wash the internet clean! | Nov 20 21:43 |
| prurigro | lol, of content! | Nov 20 21:46 |
| MinceR | freedom from freedom | Nov 20 21:48 |
| Faither | I'm all for it now that you put it that way MinceR xD | Nov 20 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1321816456763.png | Nov 20 21:49 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 21:49 |
| MinceR | well, it's how Blow would put it. | Nov 20 21:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 20 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | You are 9 times more likely to choke on your own vomit than to die in a terrorist attack. | Nov 20 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | I like that one | Nov 20 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] How to choose the right distribution of !Linux: http://ur1.ca/5ydkg :) !Mageia is mentioned briefly in it #Mageia #Linux! Via @rsandu | Nov 20 21:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How-To Choose the Right Distribution of Linux | Yet Another Linux Blog .::. Size~: 58.02 KB | Nov 20 21:50 |
| Faither | good old 4chan xD | Nov 20 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | buying everyone in the US an air conditioner would cost less than the War on Terror | Nov 20 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | and prevent 17,600 times as many deaths | Nov 20 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | more if you count the innocent people the US has killed in the whole span of the War on Terror | Nov 20 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | What would $3 trillion to cancer research do? | Nov 20 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | 12,5781 Americans die of cancer per 1 killed by an act of terrorism | Nov 20 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Nov 20 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | 12,571 | Nov 20 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | there's no rational basis to spend the kind of money they have spent were terrorism the only reason to spend it | Nov 20 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] there should still be an individual ban option though, in case, f/ex a good account that was somehow compromised | Nov 20 21:55 | |
| Faither | if you'd stop the war on drugs and terrorism you could potentially save a lot of money | Nov 20 21:55 |
| Faither | but how will our politicians then force those legislation about giving up our privacy on us? | Nov 20 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | cancer would be easier to wipe out than terrorism | Nov 20 21:57 |
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| DaemonFC | terrorism is caused by mindsets you can't get rid of by killing people at a fixed rate | Nov 20 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz | [21:34] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Showed my dad that pepper spray photo | Nov 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz | That officer looks like Updike | Nov 20 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Updike is finished | Nov 20 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | he's out in January | Nov 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz | With the moustache, too | Nov 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz | he's lieutenant | Nov 20 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | his own party finally had enough of him and let us up for air | Nov 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I posted his home phone number in disapora | Nov 20 21:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: actually, if that fixed rate was higher than the global birth rate, you could :> | Nov 20 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | assuming his replacement isn't worse | Nov 20 21:59 |
| Faither | schestowitz: oO | Nov 20 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Even if you nuked every Muslim country off the planet and shot the rest | Nov 20 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | you'd have to assume Muslim terrorists are the only kind | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: eventually you'd run out of people | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | and then, no more potential terrorists! | Nov 20 22:00 |
| Faither | you can easily spread hate | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | as an extra bonus, no people for the terrorists to kill! | Nov 20 22:00 |
| Faither | just look at the latest example from germany | Nov 20 22:00 |
| dyfet | yep, after trillions of dollars, terrorism problem finally solved with first working doomsday weapon...no people, no terrorism ;) | Nov 20 22:01 |
| Faither | no terrorism attacks from muslims we just create our own | Nov 20 22:01 |
| MinceR | dyfet gets it :> | Nov 20 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Why are you putting a convicted felon on your show? | Nov 20 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | This is almost as bad as Jim Bakker's "I was wrong". | Nov 20 22:02 |
| Faither | and as soon as it was in the news politicians were calling for: data retention, extrimist databeses,..... | Nov 20 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | -me on a local radio talk show interviewing Jack Abramoff | Nov 20 22:02 |
| Faither | I don't know if it would solve the problem, if it wasn't the US comming up with the doomsday weapon they'd threaten to build one twice as powerful so they could blow us off the face of the earth even better | Nov 20 22:04 |
| dyfet | Well speaking of the bakers, Tammy Fey did teach Sarah Palin how to cry.... | Nov 20 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | but how to leave out the pancake makeup that cracks if you smile | Nov 20 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 22:05 |
| dyfet | Faither: mutual assured destruction was all about making sure nobody would feel like they "lost" a nuclear war. At best everyone could call it a "draw" :) | Nov 20 22:05 |
| Faither | dyfet: ^^ | Nov 20 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | "Is Kathy Juillerat headed to Emergency Management?" | Nov 20 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | local politician | Nov 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I refer to her as Kathy The Rat | Nov 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | or Kathy Juille Rat | Nov 20 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | she doesn't like me | Nov 20 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | I made a comment once at a town meeting that Kathy The Rat comes back no matter how much you spray | Nov 20 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | she's part of Team Updike | Nov 20 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | the embezzlers and nepotists that run the local government | Nov 20 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | South Park skewered Child Protective Services last episode | Nov 20 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | they took a kid from his home and told him his choices were Penn State University or a Catholic boarding school | Nov 20 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | they also took a thinly veiled swipe at World's Strictest Parents | Nov 20 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | by sending the children to live with a neurotic maladjusted group of devout Agnostic | Nov 20 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | *Agnostics | Nov 20 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Worlds Strictest Parents is a reality show wherein they drop off the kids with a family of Mormons or something and don't let them go back home until they promise to be good | Nov 20 22:16 |
| MinceR | how exactly can agnostics be devout? | Nov 20 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | of course I don't think they portray the Mormons fairly, or else they'd be in arranged marriages to a 90 year old before they could go home | Nov 20 22:17 |
| dyfet | I do not watch tv, and have now been reminded why i dont :) | Nov 20 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | that the cult founder was directed to gold tablets with additional scriptures from God, by an Angel called Moroni | Nov 20 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | not making this up | Nov 20 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | anyway, the only person who ever saw the tablets, the cult founder, Joseph Smith had to give them back to the Angel after he was done transcribing them ;) | Nov 20 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | so nobody else could ever see whether or not any gold tablets existed | Nov 20 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 20 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Bigamy was common | Nov 20 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | they gave it up only to appease the US federal government into making Utah a state | Nov 20 22:20 |
| Faither | GN | Nov 20 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | and there are splinter groups that still practice Bigamy | Nov 20 22:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @x11r5 @timttmy Lol there is no evil" is like a mac address so i can make the newsprint for the next flossing with bacon session? :D | Nov 20 22:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | sometimes with teenage pre teenage "brides" | Nov 20 22:20 |
| MinceR | "Joseph Smith was called a prophet, dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb" | Nov 20 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | the show World's Strictest Parents airs on Country Music Television (shock) | Nov 20 22:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy Lulz http://identi.ca/url/60572911 | Nov 20 22:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android gets more IT developer interest than iOS and Windows Phone 7 http://goo.gl/kFIiV | Nov 20 23:05 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | AHAHAHAH | Nov 20 23:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | hey schestowitz | Nov 20 23:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://microsoft.jpg.to/ | Nov 20 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 20 23:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | bwhahaha | Nov 20 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] nethack via telnet(NAO) in urxvt(through urxvt daemon of course) in dwm #LifeIsGood | Nov 20 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't get it | Nov 20 23:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: btw, jpg.to uses the subdomain as the keyword | Nov 20 23:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | so type anything in | Nov 20 23:14 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 20 23:22 |
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| Lirodon | also, on the topic of people barely celebrating opensuse anymore, I think I have an alternate explanation | Nov 20 23:29 |
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| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: DaemonFC: I don't get it | Nov 20 23:31 |
| Lirodon | 5 years ago: was Ubuntu as popular as it is now? | Nov 20 23:31 |
| XFaCE | http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/302899_121472164626331_121408401299374_121127_1270316570_n.jpg | Nov 20 23:32 |
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| XFaCE | That's a goose, not a duck | Nov 20 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's not a woman! | Nov 20 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | that's a man man! | Nov 20 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 20 23:34 |
| Lirodon | I feel that OpenSUSE is probably the most "complete" distribution I've ever used. Only two distributions I've seen have that many graphical tools for making fine tunes in a default installation. | Nov 20 23:35 |
| XFaCE | http://www.slashgear.com/win | Nov 20 23:35 |
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| XFaCE | http://www.slashgear.com/windows-phone-hack-could-create-android-dual-boot-19196715/ | Nov 20 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Phone hack could create Android dual-boot - SlashGear .::. Size~: 48.41 KB | Nov 20 23:35 |
| XFaCE | Hurrah, less bricks! | Nov 20 23:35 |
| XFaCE | I love the comments too, "Uh why would POS Android on those phones?" | Nov 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | does Microsoft get more money if you buy a Windows Phone and hack it to run Android or if you just buy an ANdroid phone to begin with? | Nov 20 23:37 |
| XFaCE | Keep talking, Mr. I-am-the-1%-buying-outdated-WP7-phones | Nov 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | hard for me to keep track of their extortion | Nov 20 23:37 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 20 23:38 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111118/02523816811/microsoft-anti-piracy-campaign-explains-why-its-bad-businesses-to-pay-microsoft-software.shtml#c113 | Nov 20 23:39 |
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| XFaCE | "I've been a Microsoft engineer for over 15 years with four of their major certifications dating back to the late 90's. I consider myself an expert on most of their server products. Regardless of the revenue they pull in year over year, Microsoft has been in decline over the last decade. All of their new products, the Powershell-based products, have been horrible upon initial release. You could argue that the "never use an MS product until SP1 is rel | Nov 20 23:39 |
| XFaCE | eased" mentality has always been there but their "release unfinished now, patch later" attitude has increased significantly over the last few years. From an industry point-of-view, more people are looking at alternatives to MS products than ever before. Barring a return of Bill Gates, I fully expect Microsoft to continue its free fall. It would not surprise me at all, based on the sheer numbers of patents which they hold, that within the next ten to | Nov 20 23:39 |
| XFaCE | twenty years, they cease to exist as a meaningful technology company and become a full-on patent troll, surviving through the extortion of other companies' innovations. One only needs to look at what they are doing to Android to see that this transformation has already begun. I for one, as a provider of Microsoft solutions, am not counting on them to be there beyond the next decade and have hedged my bets by embracing the drive for alternate solution | Nov 20 23:39 |
| XFaCE | s." | Nov 20 23:39 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: busy right now, sorry | Nov 20 23:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: No prob, log it in your crap for articles database | Nov 20 23:42 |
| XFaCE | :) | Nov 20 23:42 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: How old are you nearly 30? seems so by your rowing blog post | Nov 20 23:44 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: He's immortal | Nov 20 23:57 |
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