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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 8th, 2008 – Part 2

Posted in IRC Logs at 6:42 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz


Enter the IRC channel now

kevin__ last night i was listening to the linux action show and they spoke to a person who is in the military and was trying to get them to switch to linux Dec 08 16:39
kevin__ that whole incident would have been avoided Dec 08 16:39
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schestowitz I think they already switch Dec 08 17:02
schestowitz Red Hat mostly, servers first Dec 08 17:02
trmanco http://blog.ofset.org/ckhung/index…. Dec 08 17:25
trmanco Which is More Important: Open File Format or Free Software? Dec 08 17:25
kevin__ open file format Dec 08 17:26
kevin__ that way people can choose Dec 08 17:26
MinceR why do i need to choose? Dec 08 17:26
kevin__ it’s a complicated situation Dec 08 17:28
kevin__ on one hand, if the file format is free, it seems like the proprietary devs won’t implement it Dec 08 17:28
twitter Non free software forces you to chose between your freedom and their captured users, aka your culture. Dec 08 17:29
kevin__ on the other, if the whole software itsself is free and the content is only available with said free program, they will have to use it Dec 08 17:29
twitter It is better to take both your freedom and encourage free formats. Dec 08 17:29
twitter These days, actual need for Winblows is rare and can be met with occasional use of other people’s computers. Dec 08 17:30
kevin__ think about what it would be like if say itunes was free software Dec 08 17:30
twitter Why do I need iTunes? Dec 08 17:30
trmanco http://internetarchive.wordpress.com/2008/11/25… Dec 08 17:30
trmanco “We will make a new Ogg Theora (with Vorbis audio) opensource/free-based video derivative.  This derivative will play natively in Firefox 3.1 release (v3.1 is due around the end of 2008).” Dec 08 17:31
twitter Amarok is free and better. Dec 08 17:31
kevin__ you don’t… i don’t use it either :) Dec 08 17:31
twitter What exactly do you need XP for? Dec 08 17:31
twitter Most things run on Wine. Dec 08 17:31
kevin__ me personally, a program called transcender Dec 08 17:31
kevin__ i have not tried it in wine though. it uses some nasty drm so it may not work. Dec 08 17:32
kevin__ it is used to study for certifications which are *supposedly* vendor neutral :) Dec 08 17:32
kevin__ like the A+, Linux+, Net+, etc Dec 08 17:33
twitter this program?  http://www.transcender.com/dept.aspx?… obviously not “neutral” Dec 08 17:33
kevin__ yep Dec 08 17:33
twitter You might have to use virtual box or parallels Dec 08 17:33
kevin__ but i suppose it’s more incentive to go after the LPI instead of Linux+ eh? Dec 08 17:34
kevin__ i already got the A+ so i don’t need it for that thankfully Dec 08 17:35
twitter Wine has both success and failure tests http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?s… Dec 08 17:35
kevin__ one guy says everything works Dec 08 17:36
kevin__ the other is rated as garbage :) Dec 08 17:37
twitter Most people get their boss to pay for certs like that, see if your boss might also lend you a computer to study.  They get better deals on both certs and Winblows (as I’m sure you know) and should at the very least be able to give you a copy of XP to use. Dec 08 17:37
kevin__ i’m unemployed :) Dec 08 17:38
kevin__ i finished school about 5 months ago and have just moved Dec 08 17:38
schestowitz trmanco: good link, re: Archive Dec 08 17:38
schestowitz I need to return to posting their video Dec 08 17:39
schestowitz The producer seems to have begun removing some Oggs, but it’s beginning to make sense now (what is happening) Dec 08 17:39
kevin__ people really need to push the vorbis/theora formats more Dec 08 17:43
kevin__ even guys like the Linux Action Show promote mp3 over it Dec 08 17:43
kevin__ some guys like the linux outlaws and tllts make them equally easy to access though Dec 08 17:44
kevin__ i always go for the ogg because they don’t sound like running water :) Dec 08 17:44
schestowitz Here’s new use of the <video> element: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/08/ste… Dec 08 17:45
schestowitz [thanks to twitter for the pointer] Dec 08 17:45
twitter got it from /. firehose Dec 08 17:47
twitter the internet archive news is good to see. Dec 08 17:47
trmanco schestowitz, I found it in a portuguese blog Dec 08 17:48
trmanco an article written by Rui Dec 08 17:48
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_doug hi there, Chrome on a USB device, how to save settings ? Dec 08 17:56
twitter heh, typical M$ threat on /. http://news.slashdot.org/comments… Dec 08 17:56
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_doug IBM launches Linux Defenders .. Dec 08 17:57
_doug http://legalpad.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/ Dec 08 17:57
kevin__ i just saw the video Dec 08 17:59
_doug how do I get Chrome to remember settings on a USB device ? Dec 08 18:01
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schestowitz Hi, redds2soc; _doug Dec 08 18:11
redds2soc Hi. Dec 08 18:12
redds2soc Seems your site gets a lot of opinions some bizarre others more on topic. Dec 08 18:13
twitter the bizarre opinions come from the same group of heckler nyms Dec 08 18:14
twitter they seem to have a lot of time on their hands Dec 08 18:15
redds2soc I admit I’m new to this whole thing.  A friend recommended the boycottnovell site and I wanted to see what it’s all about. Dec 08 18:16
twitter I got here through a link on Slashdot about Novell.  I stayed around because Roy is good at finding free software news links. Dec 08 18:18
_doug redd: it’s a one stop shop for all things wrong about the IT business :) Dec 08 18:18
redds2soc I see that and he has a lot of new links.  I was just trying to get a feel for whether there are differing opinions or whether people are just spamming his site. Dec 08 18:18
twitter The free software links are good news and largely missing from other sites. Dec 08 18:18
_doug Roy gets upset with al lthe dirty-dealings, I say it’s just business :] Dec 08 18:19
twitter crime is not business. Dec 08 18:19
twitter Roy exposes crime. Dec 08 18:19
_doug Any of the top F500 companies didn’t get there by playing fair … Dec 08 18:20
twitter Business is something equals do willingly.  Society should protect itself from coercion, unfair trusts and extortion.  What M$ and Novell are up to is outright crime. Dec 08 18:22
redds2soc Doug lol Dec 08 18:22
trmanco schestowitz, do you mind if I use this < http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uplo… > logo? Dec 08 18:22
redds2soc Twitter, not trying to stoke the fire.  Microshaft I understand, they screw everyone.  Novell as far as I understand and I’m not that familiar with them are good corporate citizens how made a huge mistake.  But that’s not criminal. Dec 08 18:23
redds2soc **who made a huge mistake. Dec 08 18:24
schestowitz Sure, trmanco , go ahead Dec 08 18:24
trmanco thanks Dec 08 18:24
schestowitz It was free where I got it. Dec 08 18:24
schestowitz I check licences on images I use. Dec 08 18:24
_doug Don’t expect much from anti-Novell zeolots .. Dec 08 18:24
_doug http://www.osnews.com/thread?339594 Dec 08 18:24
*schestowitz does a big post asking IBM to fight swpats Dec 08 18:25
schestowitz Just in: [opensuse-announce] Wanted: Participants for usability tests of SUSE Studio Dec 08 18:26
schestowitz Free labour for MS/Novell? Dec 08 18:27
schestowitz It’s NOT OpenSUSE Dec 08 18:27
schestowitz “We can offer people from outside SUSE a compensation of 20 Euros/hour (if you need two hours then 40 Euros) Interested? Then write or call me or Sigi (siegfried.olschner@novell.com) “ Dec 08 18:27
schestowitz “We still need participants for our usability tests of SUSE Studio. The tests will take place here in Nuremberg are one-time tests and will take about one hour each. You should have knowledge in building Linux packages, but should preferably  be unexperienced with SUSE Studio. “ Dec 08 18:27
_doug RAPIDGate patents passports .. Dec 08 18:27
_doug http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story… Dec 08 18:27
_doug http://www.google.com/patents?id=YLAQAAAA… Dec 08 18:28
schestowitz This reminds me of Microsoft inviting Seattle bloggers and giving them free gifts like XBox360 for helping with some ‘study’ Dec 08 18:28
schestowitz Bloggers (!!), mind you… not people.. Dec 08 18:28
redds2soc Where do you guys/girls (don’t want to offend), find this stuff? Dec 08 18:28
schestowitz redds2soc: RSS feeds Dec 08 18:28
schestowitz The guys here help too. _doug posts loads of stuff and so does trmanco and zoobab (in his Web sites) Dec 08 18:29
trmanco :D Dec 08 18:29
redds2soc Wow.  I’ll have to set my rss feeder up and keep coming back.  I gotta run.  Thanks for all the info. Dec 08 18:30
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_doug IEEE setting up patent pools .. Dec 08 18:31
_doug http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/h… Dec 08 18:31
_doug Brickfish® patents Viral Map .. Dec 08 18:33
_doug http://press-releases.techwhack.com/30… Dec 08 18:33
_doug An example of Brickfish’s Viral Map technology can be seen here Dec 08 18:33
kevin__ well i am goin g to give this transcender a shot in wine Dec 08 18:33
_doug http://www.brickfish.com/fashion/Coach?tab=… Dec 08 18:34
_doug Looks like a Flash applet .. Dec 08 18:34
_doug An interactive map, populated with a data set .. it looks pretty .. Dec 08 18:35
_doug the GeoView just goes to GoogleMaps .. Dec 08 18:36
schestowitz http://www.brickfish.com/Default.aspx Dec 08 18:39
schestowitz Is this it? Where are /products/? Let’s see.. Dec 08 18:40
schestowitz http://www.brickfish.com/Pages/Company/… Dec 08 18:40
schestowitz They don’t make chairs, do they. ;-) Dec 08 18:40
_doug I posted link to a demo .. Dec 08 18:40
schestowitz Seems like they sell ideas… not physical products.. Dec 08 18:40
schestowitz Do they keep their own code? Dec 08 18:41
schestowitz Is it closed source? Dec 08 18:41
schestowitz If so, they’ve got copyrights. Dec 08 18:41
_doug Nokia patents handset gestures .. Dec 08 18:41
_doug http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/ne… Dec 08 18:41
kevin__ darn… it blew up on me… doesn’t get past the splash Dec 08 18:41
schestowitz Haha. Dec 08 18:41
schestowitz The Flash thing says “patent pending” Dec 08 18:41
_doug “Our proprietary tools and technology” Dec 08 18:42
schestowitz Also, I get warned about click-jacking. Dec 08 18:42
schestowitz So they sell………. ideas?? Dec 08 18:42
_doug “Brickfish offers an innovative way for brands to engage their target audience online” Dec 08 18:42
schestowitz Where is shop/products? Dec 08 18:43
_doug Sounds like they patented targeted/interactive advertising .. Dec 08 18:43
schestowitz Can’t find: -( http://www.brickfish.com/ Dec 08 18:43
schestowitz You can’t ‘own’ that Dec 08 18:43
schestowitz It’s based on existing logic Dec 08 18:43
schestowitz What are those Brickfish people… ‘innovators’? Dec 08 18:44
schestowitz [Code name for lamers who want to make money uttering words] Dec 08 18:44
_doug “The Brickfish team is led by President and CEO Shahi Ghanem, previously President of Nasdaqlisted Dec 08 18:45
_doug DivX, Inc.,” Dec 08 18:45
_doug http://www.brickfish.com/Pages/Company… Dec 08 18:45
schestowitz http://www.brickfish.com/cam… “Microsoft “I’m a PC” collective” Dec 08 18:45
schestowitz I see lots of pro-Microsoft stuff in their site. Maybe it’s a source of influence. Dec 08 18:45
schestowitz DivX, another patenter… I think they sue companies Dec 08 18:46
schestowitz They had some issue with Yahoo! about a week or two ago Dec 08 18:46
_doug If I’m-a-PC is a sample of their innovation, I’m not impressed … Dec 08 18:46
schestowitz So he quit DivX and started with patents elsehwere. Dec 08 18:46
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schestowitz _doug: not impressed by PC or by the INNOVA~1? Dec 08 18:47
_doug I’m impressed with the interactive map, just not the idea of using Gates/Scienfeld Dec 08 18:47
_doug http://www.brickfish.com/Lifestyle… Dec 08 18:47
_doug But is it of any use .. ? Dec 08 18:47
_doug see Xanga 31, I would like to click on it and be able to drill down to the actual data .. Dec 08 18:49
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_doug ‘Life without Walls’ big in Kazakhstan :) Dec 08 18:51
PetoKraus hmm Dec 08 18:53
PetoKraus Linux Kernel Performance Subsystem – but only on Intels so far. Dec 08 18:53
schestowitz Phoronic? Dec 08 18:56
schestowitz *nix Dec 08 18:56
_doug “consumer participation in online advertising campaigns” Dec 08 18:57
schestowitz Haha. The app broke. Dec 08 18:57
_doug ‘viral marketing’ .. can you actually patent that ? Dec 08 18:57
schestowitz http://www.brickfish.com/Pages/404.aspx?pro… ” We’re very sorry, but the place you’re looking for is no longer available.” Dec 08 18:57
schestowitz ASPX Dec 08 18:57
PetoKraus schestowitz: y Dec 08 18:58
schestowitz Ask him to mail you spare geatr Dec 08 18:58
schestowitz *gea Dec 08 18:59
_doug lots of fashion sites, what’s the name of that company that tried to make money with an online fashion site .. Boo ? Dec 08 18:59
_doug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boo.com Dec 08 18:59
_doug http://www.msdewey.com/ this is from MS research .. Dec 08 19:00
schestowitz Boo.com… died with the bubble? Dec 08 19:02
schestowitz I remember seeing it on Sky when I was 17.. Dec 08 19:02
schestowitz It all collapsed Dec 08 19:02
_doug USPTO sued in patent dispute .. :) Dec 08 19:04
_doug http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i16/… Dec 08 19:04
schestowitz http://www.pcworld.com/article/155111/… ( IEEE to Set up Patent Pools to Simplify Standards Adoption ) Dec 08 19:05
schestowitz Hey, IEEE, what about bloody company that have no patents^H^Hnolopolies? Dec 08 19:05
_doug The Microsoftie who left the Dark Side for Open Source .. Dec 08 19:05
_doug http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3789531/… Dec 08 19:05
_doug “Alex Mogilevsky’s patented work on background spell-checking had been stolen by OpenOffice” Dec 08 19:06
_doug how by all the rules of logic, can you patent a background-process-spellchecker ? Dec 08 19:07
_doug If the Microsofties spent less time writing patents and more time writing code, then maybe the OS wouldn’t be such an unstable mess and a security nightmare .. Dec 08 19:09
schestowitz WTF? Dec 08 19:14
schestowitz I never read it properly Dec 08 19:14
schestowitz The author of this contacted me some weeks ago. Dec 08 19:15
schestowitz He uses works like “steal” too. Dec 08 19:15
schestowitz *words Dec 08 19:15
-_doug-DCC Chat ( Dec 08 19:24
*Received a DCC CHAT offer from _doug Dec 08 19:24
PetoKraus how is his WORK stolen? Dec 08 19:32
PetoKraus isn’t it his IDEA? Dec 08 19:33
PetoKraus if they prove the code is actually the same, then we may start talking about “stealing” work Dec 08 19:33
_doug schest: contacted about what ? (PM) me .. Dec 08 19:35
_doug China requires certification oof security software .. Dec 08 19:38
_doug http://finance.yahoo.com/news/China-ir… Dec 08 19:38
_doug What a good idea .. Dec 08 19:38
_doug Archive.org moving to Ogg Theora .. Dec 08 19:40
_doug http://internetarchive.wordpress.com/2008/11/… Dec 08 19:40
PetoKraus oh bloody hell Dec 08 19:44
PetoKraus my friend just brought harpsichord he borrowed to our flat Dec 08 19:44
PetoKraus it’d be fine, if only he knew to play more than one song Dec 08 19:45
PetoKraus seems like the only viable solution is to pay £120 and move piano my boss doesn’t want  (-> i get it for free) to my room. Dec 08 19:45
schestowitz PetoKraus: for stealing one would have to /lose/ the code Dec 08 19:50
schestowitz If it’s plagiarism, then it’s copying (in the illegal sense), not stealing. Dec 08 19:50
PetoKraus schestowitz: i am not talking about “stealing” something, i am talking about something “work” vs something “idea” Dec 08 19:51
*DCC CHAT to _doug aborted. Dec 08 19:51
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/08… Dec 08 19:51
schestowitz True, but unless the work is something physical, it’s hard to steal. Dec 08 19:52
schestowitz Steal is when someone has something at one’s expense. Dec 08 19:53
schestowitz People use the word “steal” in this context sparingly. Dec 08 19:53
kevin__ they’ve tried to define “stealing” as doing anything the vendor doesn’t like Dec 08 19:53
schestowitz Just as the word terrorism is used to describe things we just don’t like like. Dec 08 19:53
kevin__ again, if i move a copy of windows from an old pc to a new one, i am “stealing” for example Dec 08 19:54
schestowitz “If thought can corrupt language, then language can also corrupt thought.” –George Orwell Dec 08 19:54
kevin__ good quote Dec 08 19:55
schestowitz http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=… Dec 08 19:55
schestowitz Here is what this tot and his mom were compared to by the MAFIAA: http://www.geekroar.com/film/archives/pira… Dec 08 19:56
schestowitz More recent: “Does She Look Like a Music Pirate?” < http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08… > Dec 08 19:56
schestowitz “She spends most of her days sitting on an overstuffed sofa with a heating pad behind her back to ease chronic pain and migraines that have kept her on disability for nearly five years. Her voice is soft and halting. Yet this woman is behind a fierce assault on the music industry and its tactics for combating music piracy on the Internet.” Dec 08 19:57
schestowitz That’s a good photo. The colorisation of the sky and all… probably tweaked somehow… Dec 08 19:58
kevin__ i have no respect for the music industry… they’re using the internet to spread inferior quality files than were available ten years ago (cds) instead of going 24/192 or something Dec 08 19:58
kevin__ music purchased online should be HD Dec 08 19:59
kevin__ they want to create an artificial upgrade path (128 kbps, 256, etc) Dec 08 20:00
kevin__ know what i mean? Dec 08 20:00
schestowitz This can’t be good: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/08/s…  “Sun Microsystems’ board is getting some fresh blood with two new independent directors, after its largest investor stepped up involvement in the company.” Dec 08 20:00
schestowitz How is that forcing an upgrade? Dec 08 20:01
schestowitz They have begun promoting their singers in YouTube. Dec 08 20:01
kevin__ it’s not a forced upgrade, it’s an artificial upgrade path Dec 08 20:01
kevin__ “you purchased the 128 kbps version, now pay an upgrade fee for 256kbps files” that sort of thing Dec 08 20:02
schestowitz Streaming as a delivery method. They actually have accounts with singers’ portfolio and millions of views. AP went down the same route with loads of video reports. Dec 08 20:02
kevin__ they’ve already done this with itunes/itunes+ Dec 08 20:02
schestowitz What is this itoon thing? :-) Dec 08 20:03
kevin__ 99 cents gets you 128kbps files with DRM, while $1.30 gets you 256kbps with no drm Dec 08 20:03
schestowitz DRM=renting Dec 08 20:03
schestowitz So it’s cheaper to rent files. Dec 08 20:03
*PetoKraus np: Nine Inch Nails – All the Love in the World (With Teeth) Dec 08 20:04
kevin__ they’re selling people their rights back :) Dec 08 20:04
PetoKraus Trent Reznor Does Not Approve of DRM Dec 08 20:04
schestowitz kevin__: they sell nothing, I avoid them Dec 08 20:04
kevin__ me too Dec 08 20:04
kevin__ i still read the articles though Dec 08 20:04
schestowitz The analogy from Cory is a good one nonetheless. Dec 08 20:04
schestowitz RIAA/MPAA: serving pirates since 1998 Dec 08 20:05
schestowitz Creative Commons: serving people since 1998 (?) Dec 08 20:05
kevin__ on the subject of CC, you should hear Rob Costlow’s music… it’s amazing Dec 08 20:06
kevin__ on jamendo Dec 08 20:06
schestowitz ACK http://www.jamendo.com/en/search?sear… Dec 08 20:07
schestowitz GET http://www.jamendo.com/en/download/album/888 Dec 08 20:08
trmanco http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/08/… Entire class fails IT exam by submitting in Word format Dec 08 20:08
kevin__ here it is   http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/888 Dec 08 20:09
kevin__ track 5 is my favorite Dec 08 20:09
schestowitz Holy hell Dec 08 20:09
schestowitz So much XSS Dec 08 20:10
kevin__ xss? Dec 08 20:10
schestowitz Took me a minute to get past it Dec 08 20:10
schestowitz Cross-site JS Dec 08 20:10
kevin__ oh Dec 08 20:10
schestowitz Lots os spyware needed to be enabled to get the file Dec 08 20:10
schestowitz Fast download. Now, the secret is in getting more big artists to sport their stuff in these sites and people to be aware of these sites Dec 08 20:12
kevin__ yep Dec 08 20:12
kevin__ they also have torrents too Dec 08 20:12
schestowitz In the mean time, MAFIAA does them a big favour by clogging up P2P, but it also kill the legitimate stuff. Dec 08 20:12
schestowitz *kills Dec 08 20:14
_doug Wired mag on Ray Ozzie .. http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/… Dec 08 20:15
schestowitz Oh no.. that that Wired MS fawning. Dec 08 20:15
trmanco GNUnited Nations 0.1 (initial release): http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gn… Dec 08 20:16
schestowitz 0_o “User-agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (Gojō) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.3 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI)” Dec 08 20:17
_doug Why Does Microsoft Always Get A Free Pass? Why Does Big Business Reek So Badly? Dec 08 20:19
_doug http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/o… Dec 08 20:20
schestowitz See details about W-E Dec 08 20:21
_doug Virus hits nearly 75% of systems on Afghanistan military base Dec 08 20:21
_doug http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=… Dec 08 20:21
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/05/wagg… Dec 08 20:22
schestowitz You can’t say “insecure Microsoft” and get away with it. Dec 08 20:22
schestowitz _doug: I need to find people in Wikipedia from W-E IP addresses Dec 08 20:22
schestowitz I only found two Dec 08 20:22
_doug Who should be in charge of protecting the Internet: Eric Schmidt, Steve Ballmer, Jeff Bezos and Julius Genachowski .. Dec 08 20:23
_doug http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/02/w… Dec 08 20:23
_doug One sells books, the other sells soap :) Dec 08 20:25
kevin__ an operating system vendor :) Dec 08 20:25
_doug translation: who is going to protect the Internet from MS Windows ? Dec 08 20:26
kevin__ hopefully the community as a whole will Dec 08 20:27
schestowitz http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Bus… “However, Radio Free Asia, funded by the U. S. government, reported Wednesday that cafes were being required to install Red Flag Linux even if they were using authorized copies of Windows. ” Bwahaha. Dec 08 20:28
schestowitz SpywareNux Dec 08 20:28
kevin__ that is a flavor of linux created by the govt right? Dec 08 20:29
schestowitz Trollish Reg: gOS – if at first you don’t succeed… < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/… > Dec 08 20:34
schestowitz kevin__: it’s for surveillance, AFAIK Dec 08 20:34
_doug http://snipurl.com/7nzy7 Dec 08 20:35
schestowitz There’s the same thing in US coffee shops Dec 08 20:35
schestowitz It’s called “Microsoft Windows” and it has back doors Dec 08 20:35
schestowitz But China wants something like their own Windows, with back doors only for the Chinese, not the CIA and FBI Dec 08 20:36
schestowitz “He who controls the back doors…” Dec 08 20:36
schestowitz _doug: page not found Dec 08 20:37
kevin__ the only way to be truely secure is to encrypt the whole hdd Dec 08 20:37
_doug gtg .. Dec 08 20:42
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schestowitz kevin__: more secure is not to have a regime of neocons. Dec 08 20:45
schestowitz The west is still lagging behind when it comes to back-dooring the gnu Dec 08 20:46
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kevin__ i remember hearing rumors that there were backdoors in windows.. was that ever confirmed? Dec 08 21:07
kevin__ that was forever ago Dec 08 21:07
schestowitz trmanco hat tip @ http://boycottnovell.com/2008/1… Dec 08 21:08
schestowitz Yes Dec 08 21:08
schestowitz Hold on. Dec 08 21:08
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schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/30… … I’ve accumulated more obvious evidence since then (like Microsoft’s Ga^H^HPartner Group confirming it) Dec 08 21:09
twitter office failure, very funny. Dec 08 21:13
twitter the softies should know that the biggest failure of all is the failure to do as you are told.  M$.DOC, F. Dec 08 21:15
schestowitz United States of Advertising: http://www.pcworld.com/article/1551… (Court Allows Spyware Program to Go Back on Sale) Dec 08 21:17
twitter Safety too, “missed the school entirely”  http://www.reuters.com/article/t… Dec 08 21:17
twitter I’m glad someone thought of the children. Dec 08 21:17
schestowitz Army life.. Dec 08 21:18
schestowitz Army  nation.. Dec 08 21:18
schestowitz Maybe they were raining. Dec 08 21:18
schestowitz Maybe they were training. Dec 08 21:18
schestowitz It would be sad had the pilot let it kill a whole class after ejecting.. rather than stay in the plane to steer it away from danger zones. Dec 08 21:20
schestowitz Belittled Microsoft… selling tshirts like Mozilla now (and Windows XP for $18).. Microsoft Jumping On The T-Shirt Bandwagon < http://techdirt.com/articles/2008120… > Dec 08 21:21
twitter As usual, the almost free market does better than M$, http://shop.cafepress.com/microsoft Dec 08 21:28
schestowitz Perl 6 to break compatibility, support other interpreters < http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/269758/perl_6_b… >. Same with Python. Dec 08 21:31
schestowitz Oh! And PHP5 too Dec 08 21:31
schestowitz All the Ps in LAMP… not backward compatible Dec 08 21:31
twitter What interpreter are they thinking of? Dec 08 21:31
PetoKraus and? Dec 08 21:32
PetoKraus what’s bad about breaking backward compatibility? Dec 08 21:32
schestowitz Hmmm… weird…  Colin Barker’s article (ZDNet UK) had the headline modified.. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/soa/Novell-81-b… Dec 08 21:33
schestowitz The original was insincere as it ignored the rest of Novell’s dying business, but it also talked about business, not revenue. Dec 08 21:34
schestowitz ZDNET fanboyism for Microsoft Linux? Dec 08 21:34
twitter t-shirt comment, “What next Microsoft fragrances?”  M$, smells like ass. Dec 08 21:34
schestowitz PetoKraus: it’s bad. PHP4 is no longer receiving patches for security purposes and a lot of software was not adapted to do PHP5 Dec 08 21:35
twitter Forcing people to change their code is bad and should never be done without a good reason.  I’d like to know what that reason is. Dec 08 21:36
schestowitz Another unsubstantiated article: OpenSolaris tackles Ubuntu dominance < http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Ope… > Dec 08 21:37
schestowitz is the “1337″ (leet) intentional there? Dec 08 21:37
schestowitz Someone just shoved up the “elite” marker there at the end (I wonder who..) http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/OpenS… Dec 08 21:38
schestowitz “Imagine if the brakes on your car failed just 1% of the time. For every 100 times you brake 1 time you’d just keep going. How many times do you brake on an average 1 hour trip? Sometimes for mission critical systems even 99.999% isn’t good enough. It’s not just mission critical systems though.” Dec 08 21:40
schestowitz “What about computers. If they made errors once in 10000, with several billion cycles per second, they’d be unusable. Anyway if each patient requires 178 actions then 1% means every patient has between 1 and 2 mistakes made for them per day. I presume some of these actions are trivial otherwise I’d be amazed if anyone survived” Dec 08 21:40
schestowitz http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=08/… Dec 08 21:41
schestowitz http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&am… “Now, what else can be commented about this, except that “democracy” is a fucked-up word that no one should use with regards to real life?” Dec 08 21:42
trmanco Live Cashback Users Feel Cheated By Microsoft: http://searchengineland.com/live-cashbac… Dec 08 21:48
kevin__ we all feel cheated by ms Dec 08 21:48
schestowitz That can’t be true. Microsoft doesn’t ever betray anyone, does it? Dec 08 21:50
schestowitz Microsoft has the obligation for tolerating inferior search results and being spied on by the Vole. Dec 08 21:51
kevin__ it’s like they sell you a car but keep a copy of the keys to steal it back when you’re not looking :) Dec 08 21:51
schestowitz Microsoft is almost broke Dec 08 21:51
schestowitz It also lobbied heavily for public looting, AKA bailout Dec 08 21:51
kevin__ btw schestowitz, that article you posted earlier made me laugh when someone from the RIAA said a mother sits on disability, seeing as how THEY charge full-price for recordings that were made 50 years ago Dec 08 21:54
kevin__ they own them for eternity! Dec 08 21:55
trmanco http://tirania.org/blog/arc… Dec 08 21:55
trmanco here we go again Dec 08 21:55
trmanco Moonlight goes 3D Dec 08 21:55
schestowitz “Business is an opportunity, not a right..” — [H]omer Dec 08 21:56
schestowitz Tell me when Icaza goes Microsoft Dec 08 21:56
trmanco ok I will :-P Dec 08 21:57
schestowitz He should visit them permanently. He’s just pooping over the wrong side of the fence by promoting anti-Linux tech Dec 08 21:57
trmanco “We are merging his patches to make it simpler for Moonlight to be compiled by Windows users. “ Dec 08 21:57
schestowitz Microsoft: “we need to catch up with that well-engineered, secure and stable Linux thing” Dec 08 21:58
kevin__ what can moonlight do that flash can’t? Dec 08 21:58
schestowitz de Icaza: “we need to catch up with Microsoft… but doing exactly what they do…. poorly” Dec 08 21:58
schestowitz kevin__: Flex Dec 08 21:58
schestowitz Even better Dec 08 21:58
kevin__ i saw that someone got doom running in flash… pretty freaking amazing Dec 08 21:59
schestowitz And there’s JavaFX and SVG+Ajax Dec 08 21:59
schestowitz These things are mostly used for freakin’ videos… we already have Ogg and <video>\ Dec 08 21:59
schestowitz Senor de Icaza needs to just work on Silverlight (for Microsoft), not Poisonware Dec 08 21:59
MinceR kevin__: it can give m$ an opportunity to sue over sw patents Dec 08 22:00
schestowitz Yes, I know. Dec 08 22:00
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schestowitz They don’t need to Dec 08 22:00
schestowitz They just pull a SCO Dec 08 22:00
kevin__ or they could wait until it got popular and then pull the chair out from under us, so to speak Dec 08 22:01
kevin__ :) Dec 08 22:01
schestowitz Look, that Moonlight (Linux) thing looks just like Silverlight (UNIX/)…. anyone who uses it can purchase SUSE (for peace of mind) or “indemnification” from microsoft.com/licensing/<whatever> Dec 08 22:01
schestowitz Right now they just let the poison sink a little deeper Dec 08 22:02
schestowitz KDE users who want to access Silver Lie videos will quite likely get the Mono flu Dec 08 22:02
schestowitz Moonlight is the perfect infection vector, making the Web inaccessible to some who reject Mono. Dec 08 22:02
trmanco Linux Comparison: Fedora and conclusion: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/12/06/linux… Dec 08 22:03
trmanco again? what are they up too? Dec 08 22:04
kevin__ if adobe were to open flash it would probably undermine them though Dec 08 22:04
schestowitz Web standards are more established Dec 08 22:05
schestowitz It’s better to avoid all those ‘puginWebbies’ Dec 08 22:05
schestowitz Web standards took many years to evolve nicely. Dec 08 22:06
schestowitz It also took a long time for many implementations (browers) to appear Dec 08 22:06
schestowitz The blobs don’t obery browser functions like back, forward, indexing, etc. Dec 08 22:06
schestowitz Those other ‘solutions’ try another route from scratch and they break the Web Dec 08 22:07
schestowitz Flash only gained traction because of stuff like YouTube. Dec 08 22:07
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schestowitz Microsoft bribes some companies to plant the XAML trap in places like the Olympic and bring the stack of junk along with it (standard pages like Library of Congress becoming MS lockin) Dec 08 22:07
trmanco hey cool, you referred me in this post <v http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/08… > Dec 08 22:08
trmanco thanks Dec 08 22:08
schestowitz People should sue the Lib. of Congress and Microsoft, which uses Novell to escape current investigations on this matter. Dec 08 22:08
kevin__ at least most of the radio stations are smart enough to stream in multiple formats Dec 08 22:08
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trmanco grr Dec 08 22:10
trmanco I don’t have <video> tags yet Dec 08 22:10
schestowitz Me neither Dec 08 22:11
schestowitz But it’s there in place for future viewing. Dec 08 22:11
schestowitz More sites are gradually embracing ogg Dec 08 22:11
schestowitz I left this comment just 2 minutes ago: http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/… Dec 08 22:11
kevin__ i’ve got 2 portable ogg players Dec 08 22:11
kevin__ they’ve been around for years. one just has to do research to find them Dec 08 22:12
trmanco nice one Dec 08 22:12
trmanco :) Dec 08 22:12
trmanco I hope they reply Dec 08 22:12
kevin__ i enjoyed going to the store and asking someone about them and they just went blank :) Dec 08 22:13
schestowitz trmanco: they usually do. Dec 08 22:13
schestowitz They mean well. They previously made some Webcase… only for Mac and Windows users… they mailed me the slides. Dec 08 22:13
schestowitz *Webcast Dec 08 22:13
trmanco Firefox 3.1 is out Dec 08 22:14
trmanco *beta 2* Dec 08 22:15
schestowitz http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php “1. A method for styling hair to cover bald areas using only the individual’s own hair, comprising separating the hair on the head into several substantially equal sections, taking the hair on one section and placing it over the bald area, then taking the hair on another section and placing it over the first section, and finally taking the hair on the remaining sections and placing it over the o Dec 08 22:16
schestowitz ther sections whereby the bald area will be completely covered.” Dec 08 22:16
twitter Here’s a comment I just left.  http://boycottnovell.com/2007/05/13/war-… Dec 08 22:16
schestowitz That’s apprently a real patent: A patent on combing hair to cover a bald spot (#4,022,227) Dec 08 22:16
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schestowitz twitter: thanks, I see. I have Thunderbird set up so that my WordPress inbox comes up with popups when something arrives (comments for example). Dec 08 22:17
twitter I’ve got new respect for Steven Vaughan-Nichols for having pointed out that M$’s patent threats have always been baseless. That does not make M$ less dangerous of malicious, but it’s something people should be aware of. Dec 08 22:18
schestowitz I give the /.-bourne stalkers 5 minutes to come and attack twitter with off-topic comments. :-) Dec 08 22:18
schestowitz twitter: SJVN doesn’t perceive it the same way as me. Dec 08 22:18
schestowitz He thought all vendors would sign a patent deal within a year Dec 08 22:19
schestowitz I talked to him about it. He was wrong. Dec 08 22:19
schestowitz Now we have even /less/ deals…. because Linspire is kaput Dec 08 22:19
twitter So he knew the threat was judicial extortion but thought it would be a success?  That’s sad. Dec 08 22:20
twitter I’m glad he was wrong. Dec 08 22:20
schestowitz Symbian: pseudopen-source -> http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3162 When Symbian stops fighting for software patents in the EU and Nokia stops boosting the MAFIAA’s DRM, maybe then Symbian will be worth looking into. Dec 08 22:21
twitter I’m going to make a brief timeline of M$’s patent extortion sometime tonight. Dec 08 22:22
schestowitz Cool! Dec 08 22:22
GoblinRFD Talking of DRM…..just to lighten the mood…(btw Non UK people might not get this) Dec 08 22:23
GoblinRFD What do you call a Police officer that can whistle 10,000 tunes? Dec 08 22:23
GoblinRFD An Iplod. Dec 08 22:23
neighborlee lol Dec 08 22:24
GoblinRFD I liked it…:) Dec 08 22:24
schestowitz Nancy Gohring is attacking Google again, IMHO: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/120808-unlocked… Dec 08 22:24
schestowitz She previously uses Microsoft puppet to ghostwrite anti-Google things. Dec 08 22:24
schestowitz I wrote about it here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/02… Dec 08 22:25
schestowitz The coverage from the MSBBC about Net censorship was rather appalling, IMHO Dec 08 22:26
schestowitz They didn’t defend Wikipedia Dec 08 22:26
schestowitz They could have at least quotes people who fought bacl. Dec 08 22:26
schestowitz “Nobody is suggesting that child pornography is defensible, but this episode has exposed how trivially easy it is to block not just an image, but an entire site – even one as popular and important as Wikipedia – thanks to a centralised routeing system.” http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/bl… Dec 08 22:27
schestowitz GoblinRFD: NimbleX Linux – 94% satisfaction < http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/nimblex.html >. Just stumbled upon it.. Dec 08 22:35
GoblinRFD :) Dec 08 22:51
GoblinRFD I really was impressed at NimbleX Dec 08 22:52
GoblinRFD so much so I did a little feature on it. Dec 08 22:52
GoblinRFD Mind you, after looking through the LFS site, I want to do my own distro!  One dedicated to emulation…. Dec 08 22:53
GoblinRFD MAME, UAE etc Dec 08 22:54
schestowitz You could do a spin Dec 08 22:56
schestowitz Fedora, PCLOS, even Ubuntu or Slax. Just follow the guides (or use the GUI)… Dec 08 22:56
GoblinRFD mm. If I ever get the time that is. Dec 08 22:57
GoblinRFD Ive been looking at so many different projects at the moment. Dec 08 22:57
GoblinRFD and Im still working on a 4k intro..it was supposed to be for a demo comp earlier this year….never met the deadline and lost interest in it mostly. Dec 08 22:58
schestowitz I’ve just got this very funny E-mail from my cousin. Dec 08 22:59
schestowitz *LOL Dec 08 22:59
schestowitz It goes like this: “Late next year, Microsoft will offer a free anti-virus, anti-spyware program to everyone who runs Windows (code-named Morro). And I am COMPLETELY psyched.” Dec 08 23:00
schestowitz I’ve tried everything over the years: bloated, intrusive, expensive programs like Norton and McAfee; naggy free programs. And deep in the back of my mind, a little voice keeps saying: “This shouldn’t be my problem.” I’m sure it’s been a hot discussion topic inside Microsoft for years. On one hand, ideally, Windows wouldn’t be so easily invaded by viruses; it’s Microsoft’s job to keep our machines protected. Dec 08 23:00
schestowitz “(According to Microsoft, a staggering 60 percent of Windows users have no virus protection at all.)” Dec 08 23:00
schestowitz “On the other hand, what about all the companies who sell anti-virus software? What will happen to them when Microsoft starts giving away the stuff for free?” Dec 08 23:00
kevin__ i’m one of them Dec 08 23:00
schestowitz Gosh. Microsoft really relies on people being gullible. Dec 08 23:00
schestowitz Haha. Dec 08 23:01
kevin__ well i take that back… i have clam av installed Dec 08 23:01
GoblinRFD Good ol’Microsoft Dec 08 23:01
schestowitz And he goes on (he’s much older than me). Dec 08 23:01
schestowitz “It’s a tough decision. And maybe the Microsoft OneCare experiment (its $50-a-year anti-virus suite, which will be discontinued at the end of June 2009) taught Microsoft that other anti-virus companies may still be able to survive even with the 800-pound gorilla in the ring. In any case, in the big picture, the world as a whole will be better off when more PC’s are protected.” Dec 08 23:01
schestowitz Some people are as gullible as Microsoft needs them to be Dec 08 23:01
schestowitz It’s a tough decision. And maybe the Microsoft OneCare experiment (its $50-a-year anti-virus suite, which will be discontinued at the end of June 2009) taught Microsoft that other anti-virus companies may still be able to survive even with the 800-pound gorilla in the ring. In any case, in the big picture, the world as a whole will be better off when more PC’s are protected. Dec 08 23:01
GoblinRFD Until recently my wife thought Microsoft produced Linux… Dec 08 23:02
schestowitz And he ends: “And a free, official, continuously updated security suite, provided directly from the mother ship, is exactly what the doctor ordered.” Dec 08 23:02
schestowitz Yes! Microsoft saves us! Dec 08 23:02
GoblinRFD God bless Microsoft Dec 08 23:02
schestowitz I told him that it’s more Microsoft BS. Anti-virus S/W does not protect PCs. it’s snake oil, a scam. 98% of all Windows PCs are vulnerable, even with anti-virus software. About 40% are hijacked. If you want security, you need to abandon Windows. It’s a wreck. Even Microsoft admitted this. Dec 08 23:02
GoblinRFD Not according to Andre Da Costa Dec 08 23:03
schestowitz “Our products just aren’t engineered for security.” — Brian Valentine, Microsoft executive Dec 08 23:03
schestowitz Give him that quote Dec 08 23:03
GoblinRFD “Vista introduced huge improvements to how users kept their personal data secure.” Andre Da Costa 25/11/08 Andre’s Blog Dec 08 23:03
schestowitz Joe Wilcox admitted this too Dec 08 23:03
GoblinRFD Da Co$ta is the man. Dec 08 23:04
schestowitz Joe Wilcox, last week ( http://blogs.eweek.com/applewatch/content/secur… ): “`There haven’t been any major new malware attacks to suggest increasing Mac  marketshare has generated more malware. Just two weeks ago, I blogged that in fact Apple’s increasing marketshare hadn’t led to more attacks  Microsoft’s marketshare mythology is wrong.” Dec 08 23:04
schestowitz So next time the Microsoft fan (Wilcox) pretends that it’s a universal issue, show him the mirror Dec 08 23:05
schestowitz UAC is not security Dec 08 23:05
schestowitz http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080… (Vista’s UAC security prompt was designed to annoy you) Dec 08 23:06
GoblinRFD MS-Watch has been pretty dull recently.   I havent had much fun. Dec 08 23:06
GoblinRFD talking of which, an MS-troll to site said: Dec 08 23:06
GoblinRFD to put it in context, I was laughing at the security measures of Vista.  He replied: Dec 08 23:07
GoblinRFD ust a little amazing thingy you said: “The only security Vista seems to be good at is preventing the user of it from doing anything without password… That didn’t help security, just made thinks difficult.” Dec 08 23:07
GoblinRFD Anybody heard of sudo? Dec 08 23:07
schestowitz RMS: “Americans should stop giving Reagan credit for making the Soviet Union collapse, and recall Reagan as the president who betrayed America’s honor by selling weapons to terrorists to ransom hostages.” < http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-sep-dec… > Dec 08 23:08
GoblinRFD It was funny, I did an article called “Happy Vista users speak out on wordpress” and then went on to link a few unhappy vista customers…..the amount of abuse I got was amazing…Im still sifting through my inbox. Dec 08 23:09
GoblinRFD it must have pressed the right buttons.  I think Ill do another. Dec 08 23:09
schestowitz Vista and WP? Dec 08 23:10
schestowitz How are they related? Dec 08 23:10
*schestowitz wonders if RMS has a apolitical blog Dec 08 23:11
schestowitz “This could mean that Bush and his cronies have not won all they hoped for. They sought total control of Iraqi oil for themselves alone.” < http://www.stallman.org/archive… > Dec 08 23:11
GoblinRFD I was just looking for a few cheap hits, and thought the title would attract Vista fanboys. Dec 08 23:11
GoblinRFD http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/art… Dec 08 23:11
GoblinRFD and it certainly did that. Dec 08 23:11
MinceR gn Dec 08 23:12
GoblinRFD gn Dec 08 23:12
GoblinRFD take care. Dec 08 23:12
schestowitz gn Dec 08 23:12
schestowitz The IEEE keeps sending mass mails to all sorts of people in unrelated fields. That almost counts as abuse.. Dec 08 23:12
schestowitz Vista /OWNERS// Dec 08 23:13
schestowitz ? Dec 08 23:13
schestowitz No such thing. Only Microsoft owns Vista. Don’t people read the EULA? Dec 08 23:13
kevin__ i liked the mojave experiment Dec 08 23:13
schestowitz They rent a licence to run a /copy/? It can even be revoked. Dec 08 23:13
kevin__ getting users by concieling the truth Dec 08 23:13
MinceR story of their life, kevin__ :> Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz Or showing just some frames selectively. Dec 08 23:14
kevin__ yes… earlier today somebody tried to tell me that if you buy a retail copy of xp you can use it forever Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz They did it later with Vista 7  and corruptible bloggers. Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz kevin__: tell his about China. Dec 08 23:14
kevin__ forever being until the activation servers go down or ms shuts down Dec 08 23:14
schestowitz http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/10/22/c… ( Microsoft sued in China for black screen of death ) Dec 08 23:15
schestowitz http://www.theregister.co.uk/200… ( Microsoft faces second ‘black screen’ lawsuit ) Dec 08 23:15
kevin__ oh yeah i heard about that… they were changing peoples’ wallpapers Dec 08 23:15
schestowitz The poor people thought they owned their own computers when The Beast O/S was installed on the, Dec 08 23:15
kevin__ i see that all the time on the net Dec 08 23:16
kevin__ people saying “but i own this computer” when DRM discussions are taking place Dec 08 23:16
schestowitz Wallpapers… oh yeah… to say the least… Gary McKinnon did that to the US Army. Dec 08 23:16
kevin__ makes me chuckle Dec 08 23:16
schestowitz Or Pentagon, whetever… Dec 08 23:16
schestowitz *whatever… but Gary is no Monopolist, so it’s not OK Dec 08 23:16
kevin__ hey schestowitz i saw a youtube video where someone sent a brand new vista disk through a shreader Dec 08 23:21
kevin__ packaging and all… it was quite funny Dec 08 23:21
schestowitz That was hugely popular in 2007 Dec 08 23:23
schestowitz http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=… Dec 08 23:23
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kevin__ i had to watch it again :) Dec 08 23:27
schestowitz There are better ones. Dec 08 23:28
schestowitz http://blip.tv/file/340692 Dec 08 23:30
GoblinRFD Going off topic slightly, I was really proud, Ive been named: Dec 08 23:31
GoblinRFD “Another thing is that I think Goblin is an idiot. At least, he is a shiller for Linux. I don’t care that he is doing it for free. That is his problem.” 3/12/08 Microsoft Watch Dec 08 23:31
GoblinRFD and one of my favourite quotes for this week is: Dec 08 23:33
GoblinRFD “it’s clear that people still don’t get what Vista was all about.” EnricoG 03/12/08 Microsoft Watch Dec 08 23:33
schestowitz Larry Augustin sells out:  http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/O… Dec 08 23:34
schestowitz 2007: It’s Time for Microsoft to Put Up or Shut Up < http://lmaugustin.typepad.com/lma… > Dec 08 23:34
schestowitz 2008: Larry Augustin helps a Vole project with .NET Dec 08 23:34
schestowitz Shame on him. Dec 08 23:34
kevin__ windows cement :) Dec 08 23:35
schestowitz GoblinRFD: the trolls are a dme/dozen, just like Windows zombies and flaws Dec 08 23:36
kevin__ i’m getting serious lag today… Dec 08 23:38
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GoblinRFD I am really looking forward to the release of Windows 7…its just like the first episodes of X-Factor.,you know it will be godawful but its compelling viewing. Dec 08 23:40
schestowitz They’ll speand s*loads when it’s out in 2010 or whenever… to make this Mojave seem like something different from Vista. Dec 08 23:41
schestowitz Then the reviews of Vista 7 will come from blogs and Microsoft won’t be able to silence them Dec 08 23:42
schestowitz By that stage, Microsoft will have been weak and in debt anyway. it’s already getting quite frail. Dec 08 23:42
GoblinRFD But dont forget: “It will be better next time” Dec 08 23:42
GoblinRFD “Vista greatness = improved security, eye candy, easy of use.” – Clintthewooke on Openbytes 07/12/08 Dec 08 23:44
kevin__ i personally want all the drm ripped out of the system Dec 08 23:47
kevin__ as a consumer i shouldn’t have to pay to support such things if i don’t want to Dec 08 23:47
schestowitz You don’t choose Dec 08 23:47
schestowitz That;’s why FOSS was conceived Dec 08 23:47
schestowitz The systems are built to accommodate other factors Dec 08 23:48
schestowitz MAFIAA… CIA… they all have demands from and relationships with Microsoft and Apple. Dec 08 23:48
schestowitz The operating system is not for /YOU/…. it’s for you /TO USE/… along with the restrictions and so-called antifeaturs. Dec 08 23:48
kevin__ they will only be able to push that so far though before average people decide they’ve had enough Dec 08 23:49
schestowitz Unless it’s too late Dec 08 23:50
kevin__ even now the ice is starting to crack Dec 08 23:50
schestowitz They use legiislation (lobbyists and all) Dec 08 23:50
schestowitz That’s why you’re seeing me distracted by politics Dec 08 23:50
schestowitz RMS apparently relaised this a long time ago Dec 08 23:50
schestowitz “Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won’t leave you alone.” –Richard Stallman Dec 08 23:50
schestowitz Tell that to DVD Jon dn Phil Zimmerman who got visit from ‘the court’ of the FBI for writing some code that achieve something they need Dec 08 23:51
schestowitz Softare patents, DMCA… all are examples of ANTI-FOSS laws. Dec 08 23:51
kevin__ the DMCA isn’t just about locking out free software though. it also exists to exploit people Dec 08 23:52
kevin__ all those innocent users who purchase music from Microsoft’s music store and then get a mac for example Dec 08 23:53
kevin__ or linux as the case may be :) Dec 08 23:53
schestowitz Of course. Dec 08 23:54
schestowitz FOSS extends to other areas. Dec 08 23:54
schestowitz Creative Commons, open access, open research, drug industry db sharing and collab, no patents, change of copyrights in practice/use…. Dec 08 23:55
kevin__ now even the hardware makers are getting involved with things like hdcp Dec 08 23:58
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  15. Links 01/06/2023: Spleen 2.0.0 Released and Team UPC Celebrates Its Own Corruption

    Links for the day

  16. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 31, 2023

    IRC logs for Wednesday, May 31, 2023

  17. Tux Machines Closing the Door on Twitter Because Twitter is Dead (for a Lot of People)

    Tux Machines recently joined millions of others who had already quit Twitter, including passive posting (fully or partly automated)

  18. Links 31/05/2023: Inkscape’s 1.3 Plans and New ARM Cortex-A55-Based Linux Chip

    Links for the day

  19. Gemini Links 31/05/2023: Personality of Software Engineers

    Links for the day

  20. Links 31/05/2023: Armbian 23.05 Release and Illegal UPC

    Links for the day

  21. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 30, 2023

    IRC logs for Tuesday, May 30, 2023

  22. Gemini Protocol About to Turn 4 and It's Still Growing

    In the month of May we had zero downtime (no updates to the system or outages in the network), which means Lupa did not detect any errors such as timeouts and we’re on top of the list (the page was fixed a day or so after we wrote about it); Gemini continues to grow (chart by Botond) as we’re approaching the 4th anniversary of the protocol

  23. Links 31/05/2023: Librem Server v2, curl 8.1.2, and Kali Linux 2023.2 Release

    Links for the day

  24. Gemini Links 31/05/2023: Bayes Filter and Programming Wordle

    Links for the day

  25. [Meme] Makes No Sense for EPO (Now Connected to the EU) and Staff Pensions to be Tied to the UK After Brexit

    It seems like EPO staff is starting to have doubts about the safety of EPO pensions after Benoît Battistelli sent money to reckless gambling (EPOTIF) — a plot that’s 100% supported by António Campinos and his enablers in the Council, not to mention the European Union

  26. Working Conditions at EPO Deteriorate and Staff Inquires About Pension Rights

    Work is becoming a lot worse (not even compliant with the law!) and promises are constantly being broken, so staff is starting to chase management for answers and assurances pertaining to finances

  27. Links 30/05/2023: Orc 0.4.34 and Another Rust Crisis

    Links for the day

  28. Links 30/05/2023: Nitrux 2.8.1 and HypoPG 1.4.0

    Links for the day

  29. Gemini Links 30/05/2023: Bubble Version 3.0

    Links for the day

  30. Links 30/05/2023: LibreOffice 7.6 in Review and More Digital Restrictions (DRM) From HP

    Links for the day

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