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01.17.09

What Was Microsoft’s “Big Bet” Post Novell-SCO (2002)?

Posted in Antitrust, Asia, IBM, Microsoft, Novell, SCO, UNIX at 9:59 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Cryptic reference to Novell-SCO from Microsoft General Manager months before the lawsuits began

THE other day in the IRC channel, we discussed what had come from this antitrust exhibit. What did Microsoft’s General Manager in India mean by “big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul)”? That was a very private/confidential E-mail. We did some searching to find out what Trishul was about (partial IRC log at the bottom), but we were unable to see what SCO and Novell had to do with this.

That was less than 6 months before SCO launched its assault on Linux, using intellectual property that belonged to Novell.

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neighborlee schestowitz, Rajeev Kaul comment about post novel-sco is weird Jan 15 17:06
schestowitz I missed that. where? Jan 15 17:06
schestowitz in response to it? Jan 15 17:07
schestowitz we need context Jan 15 17:07
neighborlee Given the impact of Education market in India globally for us and the threats from Linux and piracy, I want to make this a big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul).  < this Jan 15 17:08
schestowitz Any close links b/w them prior to 2003? Jan 15 17:08
neighborlee odd phrasing there ‘big bet plan’ but whatever ;) Jan 15 17:08
schestowitz novell= netware; sco=unix Jan 15 17:09
moogstrap sorry. phonecall. I was going to say that, as a seaman, I have actually been chased by pirates. they weren’t offering copyrighted materials. Jan 15 17:09
*schestowitz on phone Jan 15 17:10
schestowitz Big bet Jan 15 17:11
schestowitz betting on replacing unix? Jan 15 17:11
schestowitz Baystar? Jan 15 17:11
schestowitz Where’s Trishul? Jan 15 17:12
schestowitz Or who is it? Jan 15 17:12
schestowitz Worth googling. Jan 15 17:12
neighborlee schestowitz, joseX well said last few posts..very nice. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/11/ms-mai… Jan 15 17:18
neighborlee schestowitz, I feel  exactly the same. Jan 15 17:19
moogstrap that API patent really takes the piss Jan 15 17:21
neighborlee yup Jan 15 17:22
moogstrap an optimistic view: http://www.sdtimes.com/FROM_THE_EDITORS_M… Jan 15 17:24
schestowitz Should i post something about that SCO-NOVELL thing in isolation? Jan 15 17:24
moogstrap you mean from the email quote? Jan 15 17:26
schestowitz Intel is corrupting the term “open source” now (just spotted in the news): http://www.brandrepublic.asia/Media/Advertisingarti… Jan 15 17:26
schestowitz moogstrap: yes. Jan 15 17:26
schestowitz It could be worth bearing in mind. Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz SCO and India are not so isolated Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz They had Sandi Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz They also had some deals there and deployments Jan 15 17:27
moogstrap I don’t really know Jan 15 17:31
moogstrap I mean, is that the only reference? Jan 15 17:33
moogstrap still it’s omninous Jan 15 17:35
schestowitz Yes, only this reference. Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz Where’s Trishul? Let’s google it.. :-) Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozcli… Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz BN at top spot Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trishul Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz Trishul may refer to: Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz     * Trishul (weapon), a type of traditional trident from India Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz     * Trishul (missile), a surface-to-air missile under development in India Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz     * Trishul (film), a 1978 Hindi film Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz     * INS Trishul, an Indian guided missile frigate bought from Russia Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz     * Trishul or Trisul, the name of a Himalayan mountain peak. Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz Are they trying to torpedo Linux with Novell/SCO? ;-) Jan 15 17:38
moogstrap or Trishul Apartments Jan 15 17:39
schestowitz PJ might know.. Jan 15 17:39
moogstrap http://www.microsoft.com/india/me… Jan 15 17:42
moogstrap “Contributed to conceiving and developing “Trishul” plan as a core member with Sanjay Mirchandani, Rajiv Kaul and Tarun Gulati” Jan 15 17:42
schestowitz Ahhhhhhh. Jan 15 17:43
schestowitz Good find. Jan 15 17:43
schestowitz So how does this related to “Novell – Sco”? Jan 15 17:43
moogstrap meh. All I can find are articles about missiles Jan 15 17:48
moogstrap and some Java thing for mobiles Jan 15 17:48
moogstrap uh, cellphones Jan 15 17:49
*karabas has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz At least we know, thanks to you, that it’s a project Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz Like Sco -Novell maybe? Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz I don’t know the chronicles of this too welll… Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz PJ has historical summaries… Jan 15 17:49
moogstrap doubtful: http://www.few.vu.nl/~srijith/masters/t… Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz So I don’t know how SCO related to Novell before litigation Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz GrokDoc/GrokLine with timelines and all might help Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz SCO did some mobile stuff recently (failed of course) Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz Signed some deals in India IIRC Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz Now it sells the assets Jan 15 17:50
moogstrap google has forsaken me. sorry dude Jan 15 18:03
moogstrap A patent invented by a guy called Trishul, owned by Microsoft: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-85342158.html Jan 15 18:13
schestowitz Heh :-) Jan 15 18:15
schestowitz Thanks for looking. Jan 15 18:15
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