01.17.09
What Was Microsoft’s “Big Bet” Post Novell-SCO (2002)?
Cryptic reference to Novell-SCO from Microsoft General Manager months before the lawsuits began
THE other day in the IRC channel, we discussed what had come from this antitrust exhibit. What did Microsoft’s General Manager in India mean by “big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul)”? That was a very private/confidential E-mail. We did some searching to find out what Trishul was about (partial IRC log at the bottom), but we were unable to see what SCO and Novell had to do with this.
That was less than 6 months before SCO launched its assault on Linux, using intellectual property that belonged to Novell. █
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| neighborlee | schestowitz, Rajeev Kaul comment about post novel-sco is weird | Jan 15 17:06 |
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| schestowitz | I missed that. where? | Jan 15 17:06 |
| schestowitz | in response to it? | Jan 15 17:07 |
| schestowitz | we need context | Jan 15 17:07 |
| neighborlee | Given the impact of Education market in India globally for us and the threats from Linux and piracy, I want to make this a big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul). < this | Jan 15 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Any close links b/w them prior to 2003? | Jan 15 17:08 |
| neighborlee | odd phrasing there ‘big bet plan’ but whatever  |
Jan 15 17:08 |
| schestowitz | novell= netware; sco=unix | Jan 15 17:09 |
| moogstrap | sorry. phonecall. I was going to say that, as a seaman, I have actually been chased by pirates. they weren’t offering copyrighted materials. | Jan 15 17:09 |
| *schestowitz on phone | Jan 15 17:10 | |
| schestowitz | Big bet | Jan 15 17:11 |
| schestowitz | betting on replacing unix? | Jan 15 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Baystar? | Jan 15 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Where’s Trishul? | Jan 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Or who is it? | Jan 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Worth googling. | Jan 15 17:12 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, joseX well said last few posts..very nice. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/11/ms-mai… | Jan 15 17:18 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, I feel exactly the same. | Jan 15 17:19 |
| moogstrap | that API patent really takes the piss | Jan 15 17:21 |
| neighborlee | yup | Jan 15 17:22 |
| moogstrap | an optimistic view: http://www.sdtimes.com/FROM_THE_EDITORS_M… | Jan 15 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Should i post something about that SCO-NOVELL thing in isolation? | Jan 15 17:24 |
| moogstrap | you mean from the email quote? | Jan 15 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Intel is corrupting the term “open source” now (just spotted in the news): http://www.brandrepublic.asia/Media/Advertisingarti… | Jan 15 17:26 |
| schestowitz | moogstrap: yes. | Jan 15 17:26 |
| schestowitz | It could be worth bearing in mind. | Jan 15 17:27 |
| schestowitz | SCO and India are not so isolated | Jan 15 17:27 |
| schestowitz | They had Sandi | Jan 15 17:27 |
| schestowitz | They also had some deals there and deployments | Jan 15 17:27 |
| moogstrap | I don’t really know | Jan 15 17:31 |
| moogstrap | I mean, is that the only reference? | Jan 15 17:33 |
| moogstrap | still it’s omninous | Jan 15 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, only this reference. | Jan 15 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Where’s Trishul? Let’s google it..  |
Jan 15 17:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozcli… | Jan 15 17:37 |
| schestowitz | BN at top spot | Jan 15 17:37 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trishul | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Trishul may refer to: | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | * Trishul (weapon), a type of traditional trident from India | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | * Trishul (missile), a surface-to-air missile under development in India | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | * Trishul (film), a 1978 Hindi film | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | * INS Trishul, an Indian guided missile frigate bought from Russia | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | * Trishul or Trisul, the name of a Himalayan mountain peak. | Jan 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Are they trying to torpedo Linux with Novell/SCO? |
Jan 15 17:38 |
| moogstrap | or Trishul Apartments | Jan 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | PJ might know.. | Jan 15 17:39 |
| moogstrap | http://www.microsoft.com/india/me… | Jan 15 17:42 |
| moogstrap | “Contributed to conceiving and developing “Trishul” plan as a core member with Sanjay Mirchandani, Rajiv Kaul and Tarun Gulati” | Jan 15 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Ahhhhhhh. | Jan 15 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Good find. | Jan 15 17:43 |
| schestowitz | So how does this related to “Novell – Sco”? | Jan 15 17:43 |
| moogstrap | meh. All I can find are articles about missiles | Jan 15 17:48 |
| moogstrap | and some Java thing for mobiles | Jan 15 17:48 |
| moogstrap | uh, cellphones | Jan 15 17:49 |
| *karabas has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Jan 15 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | At least we know, thanks to you, that it’s a project | Jan 15 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Like Sco -Novell maybe? | Jan 15 17:49 |
| schestowitz | I don’t know the chronicles of this too welll… | Jan 15 17:49 |
| schestowitz | PJ has historical summaries… | Jan 15 17:49 |
| moogstrap | doubtful: http://www.few.vu.nl/~srijith/masters/t… | Jan 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz | So I don’t know how SCO related to Novell before litigation | Jan 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz | GrokDoc/GrokLine with timelines and all might help | Jan 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz | SCO did some mobile stuff recently (failed of course) | Jan 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Signed some deals in India IIRC | Jan 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Now it sells the assets | Jan 15 17:50 |
| moogstrap | google has forsaken me. sorry dude | Jan 15 18:03 |
| moogstrap | A patent invented by a guy called Trishul, owned by Microsoft: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-85342158.html | Jan 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Heh |
Jan 15 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for looking. | Jan 15 18:15 |
