| schestowitz | OK, done. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/1... be sure to watch the video... it'll make you smile. | Jan 19 00:04 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 19 00:11 |
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| twitter | *looking | Jan 19 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | Eeek! Someone just mailed me this: http://schestowitz.com/temp/FSdailly.png | Jan 19 00:31 |
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| schestowitz | He says: "See image attached,, they kreep in from anywhere...." | Jan 19 00:31 |
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| schestowitz | It's also hard to block these in BN. They use many different domains (channel) | Jan 19 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | Why Google Employees Quit < http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/18/w... > | Jan 19 00:33 |
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| twitter | he he, that's a good version of his rant. | Jan 19 00:36 |
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| twitter | gotta go help the wife, bbl | Jan 19 00:36 |
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| twitter | bitch slap for dan 0-brain and vista 7 | Jan 19 01:59 |
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| tessier | http://www.scottberkun.com/blog/2009/... | Jan 19 04:27 |
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| tessier | This is the blog of a former microsoftie which a lot of other microsofties seem to read. | Jan 19 04:27 |
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| tessier | This particular article is no smoking gun or anything but who knows if something interesting might appear there in the future. | Jan 19 04:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/busin... "It was this document that led government to adopt the open document format as the national standard for government documentation." | Jan 19 08:53 |
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| schestowitz | Edward Said, "The Myth of the Clash of Civilizations" < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=boB... > | Jan 19 08:54 |
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| schestowitz | "According to a US report, Apple CEO Steve Jobs is considering a liver transplant." http://www.itwire.com/content/vi... | Jan 19 08:57 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 19 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.computable.nl/artikel/ict_topics... Does anyone do Dutch? | Jan 19 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | In case someone wondered about the Wiki: We put unorganised smoking guns there, fetch the text from the docs, link to then (eventually it'll be internal links), link to press coverage and when it's presentable it becomes public. | Jan 19 11:07 |
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| trmanco | fishy is back | Jan 19 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | No WAY!! | Jan 19 11:19 |
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| trmanco | maybe not | Jan 19 11:22 |
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| trmanco | but wait | Jan 19 11:23 |
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| trmanco | http://groups.google.com/group/c... | Jan 19 11:24 |
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| trmanco | using chrome | Jan 19 11:24 |
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| trmanco | maybe not | Jan 19 11:24 |
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| trmanco | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.l... | Jan 19 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | It smells fishy | Jan 19 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7832652.stm Glyn: 'Windows worm numbers 'skyrocket' " - keep those factual, descriptive headlines coming, BBC people" | Jan 19 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft almost merged with Novell 17 years ago | Jan 19 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | OMG. | Jan 19 13:58 |
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| schestowitz | Brad Silverberg: "look what znix is doing! cut those fuckers off." | Jan 19 13:58 |
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| schestowitz | They dared to support something other than Windows. | Jan 19 13:58 |
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| zoobab | test | Jan 19 14:01 |
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| schestowitz | ACK. | Jan 19 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | I will post that with context soon. | Jan 19 14:02 |
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| MinceR | who's znix? | Jan 19 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | I'll post that in context soon. | Jan 19 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | They 'dared' not to support MS-DOS | Jan 19 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | I'm reading the petition | Jan 19 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?t... | Jan 19 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | Please don't edit because I'm already doing it right now. VERY interesting. | Jan 19 14:06 |
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| schestowitz | 90 pages or so.. | Jan 19 14:06 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft’s collaboration with Intel and Compaq was almost identical to Microsoft’s more recent collaboration with the same firms against Linux" | Jan 19 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft sent two managers to Japan to express Microsoft’s anger over the arrangement. Microsoft also threatened to raise the price of Windows to Hitachi if Hitachi installed Be’s boot manager on its computers." | Jan 19 14:10 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft... the Stalin regime of the 90s.... you've got to read the petition.. | Jan 19 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft has targeted the competing operating system by pressuring Intel, as well as various major OEMs such as Dell and Compaq, to boycott Linux." | Jan 19 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | In late 2000, for instance, Microsoft executive Joachim Kempin described his plan of retaliation and coercion to shut down competition from Linux: "I am thinking of hitting the OEM harder than in the past with anti-Linux actions" and ... | Jan 19 14:12 |
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| schestowitz | ..will "further try to restrict source code deliveries where possible and be less gracious when interpreting agreements - again without being obvious about it," continuing "this will be a delicate dance." | Jan 19 14:12 |
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| schestowitz | " In March 2002, a Gateway marketing executive (Anthony Fama) testified before Judge Kollar-Kotelly in State of New York et al. v. Microsoft, Case No. 98-1233 (CKK), about how Microsoft used its MDA program in order to force OEMs to market Microsoft’s operating system exclusively" | Jan 19 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | "These restrictive agreements exited before 2000 but, in 2000, Microsoft ratcheted the restriction up so that OEMs are forced to forfeit all discounts otherwise earned if they ship any "naked machines" to consumers." | Jan 19 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft described its campaign as a "jihad" to win the "browser war." Microsoft embarked on that "jihad" because winning the "browser war" was essential to its ability to preserve the applications barrier to entry and to thereby preserve ..." | Jan 19 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft would be the sole supplier of browsers for use with Windows 95 and successor operating systems, and that Netscape would be the sole supplier of browsers for operating systems other than Windows 95 and its successors. Netscape refused to participate in Microsoft’s patently unlawful market allocation scheme." | Jan 19 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | So once again Microsoft broke the law. | Jan 19 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft’s Vice President in Charge of the Platforms Group told industry executives: "We are going to cut off [Netscape’s] air supply. Everything they’re selling, we’re going to give away for free."" | Jan 19 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | That's the CEO of VMware... Microsoft MOLE | Jan 19 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | "I was quite frank with him [Scott Cook, Chairman of Intuit] that if he had a favor we could do for him that would cost Us something like $1M to do that in return for switching browsers in the next few months I would be open to doing that." | Jan 19 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | "...failing to provide preferential treatment for Microsoft’s Interact browser, was deletion from the Windows desktop. Even the largest Interact Access Providers were unwilling to risk this | Jan 19 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | penalty." | Jan 19 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft also hopes to leverage its .NET market power to increase its market share in the adjacent market of embedded devices." <<--- this is something that was shown yesterday | Jan 19 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | That's why Miguel et al (Microsoft lobbyisys) try to put Mono on devices | Jan 19 14:56 |
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| MinceR | 150343 <@schestowitz> Microsoft almost merged with Novell 17 years ago | Jan 19 15:14 |
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| MinceR | do you have an article on this? | Jan 19 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | It's not very new | Jan 19 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | Noorda spoke to Gates at the time, IIRC | Jan 19 15:17 |
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| ushimitsudoki | Ha check out this headline: " Microsoft and IE hit with EU antitrust attack" http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200904/... | Jan 19 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | Gates told Noorda he had power over the govt., sort of | Jan 19 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | ushimitsudoki: I've just been reading about Netscape (many pages)... what a bunch of criminals they are I'm reminded.. | Jan 19 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | It's a miracle they were not embargoed a decade ago | Jan 19 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | None of what they do is make better products. They map competitors and destroy them one by one... they still can't manage with Google... | Jan 19 15:19 |
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| trmanco | Windows 7 has ODF support | Jan 19 15:26 |
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| trmanco | bundled | Jan 19 15:26 |
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| PetoKraus | how? | Jan 19 15:26 |
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| trmanco | don't know | Jan 19 15:26 |
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| trmanco | thats what they say | Jan 19 15:26 |
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| trmanco | htt p://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2009/01/12/the -bumper-list-of-windows-7-secrets.aspx | Jan 19 15:27 |
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| twitter | I wonder if my PDA can do Google docs. | Jan 19 15:27 |
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| trmanco | jump to 15 | Jan 19 15:27 |
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| twitter | if so, I can say that my PDA has ODF support | Jan 19 15:27 |
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| twitter | and that it will work better than anything from M$ | Jan 19 15:28 |
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| trmanco | Novell is putting some good sense into Microsoft, or is this some dirty trick? | Jan 19 15:28 |
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| twitter | you have to ask? | Jan 19 15:28 |
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| trmanco | Well, you don't have to reply to my question if you don't want to | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| MinceR | perhaps they've realized that they can't bribe every single government on the planet | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| trmanco | I wonder how ODF standard compliant it is | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| MinceR | that's another concern | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| schestowitz | EEE in Vista7? | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| MinceR | considering that i've heard that not even their ooxml implementation complies with their own standard | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| trmanco | maybe the just want to screw upODF with Microstandards | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| twitter | when you can't bribe, lie | Jan 19 15:30 |
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| twitter | java, c, html, asci, bitmap, is there anything M$ has touched that they have not used to their advantage by making non standard? | Jan 19 15:32 |
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| twitter | M$ is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. | Jan 19 15:33 |
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| trmanco | maybe not | Jan 19 15:33 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/19/br... | Jan 19 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | They could make 'Windows-flavoured' ODF | Jan 19 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | Like they did with Java when they fought Java and Netscape. | Jan 19 15:38 |
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| trmanco | they could? I think they are | Jan 19 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | If you can't beat it, (embrace and extend) extinguish it | Jan 19 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | If they can injure Sun using Novell with Go-OOXML, then they are freer to abuse | Jan 19 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | Just watch what they did in WMware, which is now operated by Microsoft lackeys | Jan 19 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | VMware won't sue Microsoft because that's like MS suing MS | Jan 19 15:40 |
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| twitter | Looking at your patent troll article. The dating service targets are sinister. So much for my PeerBook alternative to FaceBook. | Jan 19 15:41 |
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| schestowitz | I'm doing one about NC now.. | Jan 19 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_computer | Jan 19 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | Friend says : "I'm just curious (and I know there's probably no way to know for sure) if posting these documents online could have an impact on the current European anti-trust investigations into Microsoft. I sure hope so. Anyway, I'm glad to see all of these things being organized and made public. " | Jan 19 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | "Maybe it isn't so far-fetched to think Microsoft will fail soon, or at least be hit hard enough with fines to greatly reduce its money supply. " | Jan 19 15:46 |
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| twitter | Distributed Lack of Purchasing attack (DLoP) | Jan 19 15:48 |
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| schestowitz | I get port-scanned several times a day now by Wintendo boxes... this hardly even happened before the latest worm outbreak. | Jan 19 15:55 |
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| twitter | nice | Jan 19 16:07 |
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| schestowitz | Wanna read something fun and help me out? | Jan 19 16:08 |
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| twitter | sure | Jan 19 16:08 |
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| twitter | beats that pathetic Vista7 secrets list of KDE like stuff and Windows annoyances. | Jan 19 16:08 |
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| schestowitz | I'm posting this prematurely (could use more proofreading): http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/19/ga... | Jan 19 16:09 |
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| twitter | What's to read? | Jan 19 16:09 |
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| schestowitz | We now have evidence that: (i) Microsoft has FUD tours organised; (ii) TCO is a Microsoft measure (Gartner is just a well-paid mouthpiece) | Jan 19 16:09 |
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| schestowitz | See if you come across something awry while you read it. | Jan 19 16:10 |
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| twitter | OK | Jan 19 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | I'm putting together so many dynamite refs for future use... EDGI; Allchin's "I'm scared (of Linux)"; Gartner corruption... | Jan 19 16:11 |
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| twitter | Well written and yes, explosive evidence of corruption. | Jan 19 16:15 |
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| twitter | nice find | Jan 19 16:16 |
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| twitter | So, any TCO study that favors M$ has been a M$ controlled thing since 1997. | Jan 19 16:18 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 19 16:18 |
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| twitter | Wow, they really screwed themselves with that one. | Jan 19 16:20 |
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| schestowitz | Use this when people utter "TCO" | Jan 19 16:20 |
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| twitter | I may have found a typo from a quote "we am driving the case study team" from "the needed case studies" | Jan 19 16:35 |
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| twitter | this may be original to the memo | Jan 19 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | Ah.. I see.. | Jan 19 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | Fixed | Jan 19 16:37 |
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| schestowitz | I do the copying of text quickly and rely on my spellchecker, so it's probably my fault (haven't checked)... at least we have the original to accompany. | Jan 19 16:37 |
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| twitter | cool | Jan 19 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | Let's link from the petition < http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?... > to exhibits we put in the Wiki. :-) | Jan 19 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | Ideally, we should be able to reproduce the Comes case in a sense. | Jan 19 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | I posted the petition in USENET (relevant part of it anyway) | Jan 19 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | Reply: "No wonder Microsoft wanted to settle Comes quick and get the incriminating documents off-line. Too bad they weren't quick enough." | Jan 19 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | We got copies of all/most of them | Jan 19 16:40 |
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| schestowitz | The good news is, it doesn't matter if it was settled about 2 years ago... some of the evidence is decades old and never been seen by the public | Jan 19 16:40 |
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| schestowitz | So we can take our time to nicely lay out the DYNAMITE | Jan 19 16:40 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, do you still read Asay? | Jan 19 17:11 |
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| trmanco | here, have a peak -> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-1... | Jan 19 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: I don't (unless it's linked to from somewhere) | Jan 19 17:19 |
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| trmanco | see that link | Jan 19 17:20 |
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| trmanco | he uses a post of yours | Jan 19 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | Ah, that's nice. | Jan 19 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | He cited BN last week as well. | Jan 19 17:20 |
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| trmanco | :-P | Jan 19 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | I'll repost in COLA | Jan 19 17:22 |
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| schestowitz | That's why MS was so scared for the Comes case | Jan 19 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | I'm almost done with the petition. Should I post it in BN? | Jan 19 17:24 |
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| trmanco | yes, why not | Jan 19 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | I want to interlink first | Jan 19 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | I have some volunteers who organise the smoking guns | Jan 19 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | We can improve the petition, extending it with hyperlinks | Jan 19 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Will you be interested in reading the petition? | Jan 19 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | It's like a REALLY good books | Jan 19 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | *book | Jan 19 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | Teaches you about the comp. industry too | Jan 19 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | If you read it via Wiki, then you can mend typos as you go along readin. | Jan 19 17:29 |
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| trmanco | petition? what petition? did I miss something? | Jan 19 17:29 |
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| trmanco | this -> http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.ph... | Jan 19 17:31 |
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| trmanco | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?... ? | Jan 19 17:31 |
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| trmanco | it huge | Jan 19 17:31 |
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| trmanco | its* | Jan 19 17:32 |
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| confignak | hi there .. | Jan 19 17:37 |
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| confignak | this is all still relevent, yea ? | Jan 19 17:38 |
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| confignak | schest ? | Jan 19 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, jose | Jan 19 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | hey, confignak | Jan 19 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | I am doing the petition | Jan 19 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | Polishing up now | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| confignak | Good, | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | I think I'll link it to exhibits it talks about | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| jose | schestowitz, you can email me if you have comments to this http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=... | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | It covers everything | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| confignak | It's a lot of text, | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | AARD code... OS/2.. BeOS | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| jose | I probably should change it (besides some obvious changes necessary for a new format) | Jan 19 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | I just need to enhance it with help ;-) adding links to exhibits (PDF) with summaries and articles from the press | Jan 19 17:43 |
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| jose | it's a first draft that doesn't include a gentle intro nor good running examples | Jan 19 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | jose: brilliant, let me seee.. | Jan 19 17:43 |
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| jose | thnx but call it "brilliant" after you read it | Jan 19 17:44 |
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| jose | if you still feel that way | Jan 19 17:44 |
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| jose | in any case, it's a contribution | Jan 19 17:44 |
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| confignak | You need to boil these article down into a set of links off a main page that summerises the whole thing .. | Jan 19 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | Yes! | Jan 19 17:45 |
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| schestowitz | jose: I've bookmarked it. Do you edit it some more? | Jan 19 17:45 |
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| jose | probably after i sit back relax and then reread it (not today) | Jan 19 17:45 |
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| confignak | | title | | Jan 19 17:45 |
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| confignak | text text text | links | text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text | links | text text text text text text& nbsp; text text text text | Jan 19 17:45 |
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| confignak | use a standard template for all the pages .. | Jan 19 17:46 |
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| jose | i want to write something many can understand, but this draft might serve as a first version that might be fine for now | Jan 19 17:46 |
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| confignak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Template | Jan 19 17:46 |
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| confignak | later .. | Jan 19 17:47 |
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| jose | email me if you read all of it and think it's fine or have questions/suggestions.. so as a first draft it's probably mostly ready i guess | Jan 19 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. I will do. | Jan 19 17:48 |
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| _doug | http://www.linuxplus.net/2009/01/18/ms... | Jan 19 17:57 |
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| jose | schestowitz, i was re-reading and I want to make a point clearer.. even if mono core is safe from patents (if you want to believe that) it doesn't mean your mono app relying on mono core will be since it might overlap with extension characteristics that ms has patented.. | Jan 19 18:00 |
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| jose | ..in fact, the point of the section on extensions may not be that clear. | Jan 19 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: yea, seen that | Jan 19 18:00 |
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| jose | ..in fact, all of it may need some fixing.. i understand it, but I've been thinking about this for a while and i also wrote it so know what i meant | Jan 19 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | Isn't that adorable? | Jan 19 18:01 |
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| jose | i'll probably want to re-read in a few days and see what i think | Jan 19 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | jose: I found some good bits on .NET in Iowa stuff.. | Jan 19 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | It's really a must-read | Jan 19 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | jose: thanks. | Jan 19 18:02 |
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| jose | don't keep me waiting | Jan 19 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | In what sense? | Jan 19 18:02 |
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| jose | was iowa what ms really wanted to have removed from the public record? or does ms really want everything removed | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| *schestowitz reads LT | Jan 19 18:03 |
| jose | don't keep me waiting over the links to the iowa stuff | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft settled super quickly | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | The site then locked | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| jose | yup | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | grouchy had grabbed a copy ;-) | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| jose | so what did you find and how | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | Google Cache had some too | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| jose | oh ok | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | So it made torrent | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| jose | love torrent | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | Tens of thousands of pages | Jan 19 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | The MAFIAA says the torrent protocols is 'ileggal" | Jan 19 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | *illegal | Jan 19 18:04 |
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| jose | when you post raw material, others can do some of the work.. works great | Jan 19 18:04 |
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| jose | ileggal is not a problem ;-) | Jan 19 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | Keep people from sharing 'stuff' (like crime evidence)... keep the "helpless and divided", depending on 'producers' and responsible adults(C) for 'content) | Jan 19 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | jose: yes, it's on Big G too | Jan 19 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | So people fish this stuff | Jan 19 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | jose: see http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-... | Jan 19 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | So it's already getting wider publicity | Jan 19 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | I hope you have a raw copy of http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?... | Jan 19 18:06 |
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| jose | i wrote to the obama campaign disappointed about them helping to protect monopolies | Jan 19 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | Mail me if you want this posted | Jan 19 18:06 |
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| jose | the letter was thrown together oddly, but at least i got some points through to express disappointment as a constituent | Jan 19 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | jose: some person has just proposed a petition: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16/ob... | Jan 19 18:07 |
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| jose | ok, will let you know then. | Jan 19 18:07 |
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| jose | if i take over 2 weeks to get back to you, you can go ahead | Jan 19 18:07 |
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| jose | if by raw copy, you mean the original text essay, then yes | Jan 19 18:08 |
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| jose | would it help/hinder if i add some markup? it might be fake mark-up but maybe help you out.. i may not do that though | Jan 19 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | yes, please | Jan 19 18:14 |
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| jose | do you prefer a (anchor) tags be used instead of inline text urls? | Jan 19 18:15 |
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| _doug | I guess englisg isn't his first language :) | Jan 19 18:16 |
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| _doug | http://softsecuritysite.com/essentials.html | Jan 19 18:16 |
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| _doug | "The Internet is a supreme reserve for bag, tutoring, and going" | Jan 19 18:17 |
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| _doug | "When aquatics the cyberspace you are downbeat to supervise into harmful software twisted for the exclusive belief of incoming legwork notebook and then sabotaging from the inside." | Jan 19 18:17 |
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| jose | schestowitz, it's always good when less controversial sites/authors link to you. | Jan 19 18:17 |
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| jose | _doug, that's a remarkable sentence | Jan 19 18:18 |
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| jose | :-) | Jan 19 18:18 |
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| _doug | yea, BabelFish translation ? | Jan 19 18:19 |
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| jose | yes, that's what I was thinking | Jan 19 18:19 |
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| jose | an auto job | Jan 19 18:19 |
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| _doug | is the net very sluggish recently ? | Jan 19 18:19 |
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| _doug | browsing slow, slow DNS lookup ? | Jan 19 18:21 |
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| jose | i haven't noticed.. from florida, US | Jan 19 18:24 |
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| jose | the isp might be the key here (?) | Jan 19 18:24 |
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| _doug | crapola, I ran Wireshark and noticed a lot of dropped packets, are the telecoms injecting fake reset packets to disrupt peer-to-peer ? | Jan 19 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | jose: in what sense? | Jan 19 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, I see... | Jan 19 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | jose: anchor is better | Jan 19 18:26 |
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| *schestowitz was distracted by post on Microsoft shill | Jan 19 18:27 |
| _doug | "Dear Valued Customer .. An attempt to access your abbey Online Banking was denied on:" | Jan 19 18:28 |
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| _doug | :) | Jan 19 18:28 |
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| _doug | The link goes here :) | Jan 19 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | get the eff's kit for testing the throttling... | Jan 19 18:29 |
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| _doug | http://memorytank.com/admin/galler... | Jan 19 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | Project Switzerland or something they call it........ | Jan 19 18:29 |
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| _doug | query: 211.172.232.96 KOREAN | Jan 19 18:31 |
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| _doug | snoooozeeee .. | Jan 19 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | Could be an out-of-control ActiveX | Jan 19 18:36 |
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| _doug | .-. | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | (/^\) | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | (\ /) | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | .-'-. | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | \\) (// | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | \ | / | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | \|/ | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | \|/ | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | jgs /Y\ | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| _doug | are you talking to me ? | Jan 19 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | Are these hand? | Jan 19 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | *s | Jan 19 18:42 |
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| _doug | DUNNO | Jan 19 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Let me post something fun.. | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | Here: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/19/euro... | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | Tell me what you think. | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | _ _ | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | I I : .'\ /`. : I I | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | I b__: . .`~'. . :__d I | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | I p~~: . `._.' . :~~q I | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | I I : ./ \. : I I | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | \`. : `---' : ,'/ | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | \`. `.. ..' ,'/ | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | \`. ``~'' ,'/ | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | \` '/ - mfj | Jan 19 18:44 |
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| _doug | \\ // | Jan 19 18:45 |
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| _doug | ~ ~ | Jan 19 18:45 |
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| _doug | That image would make a great company logo @) | Jan 19 18:46 |
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| _doug | i51kbs .. very slow ... | Jan 19 18:47 |
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| _doug | This happened elsewhere, the connection is massive for the first few weeks, then goes all sluggish .. | Jan 19 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | mjf: Mary Foley Jo? | Jan 19 18:48 |
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| MinceR | looks like a half TIE Interceptor | Jan 19 18:48 |
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| MinceR | well, little more than half | Jan 19 18:48 |
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| _doug | yea .. it got cropped :? | Jan 19 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | That's the Starship Enterprise's engine. | Jan 19 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | Star trekking to impose US harvesting in other planets. ;-) | Jan 19 18:48 |
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| _doug | ,-. | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| _doug | |66A | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| _doug | (| `M\ | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| _doug | _>\ |M) | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| _doug | '-_)=(_,' | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | The accusing Klingons of being "anti-Americans" | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | Is that a frog or a tux? | Jan 19 18:49 |
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| _doug | tux .. | Jan 19 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | Very oblique. | Jan 19 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | Here's a plan for Wiki edit | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | Since the petition has no links (other than cross-paragraph links), how about we add links to exhibits+summaries? | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | .-""""-. | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | |\__\ /__/|| | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | \ || / | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | \ / | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | \ __ / | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | '.__.' ' | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | | | | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | Then, we can also have links to articles that relate to exhibits | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| _doug | | | | Jan 19 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | On exhibit pages we have summaries | Jan 19 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | We have links to related news | Jan 19 18:52 |
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| _doug | I can't really concentrate right now, I feel beer is calling ... | Jan 19 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | And also, if coverage of them exists in BN (blog), then it'll be linked also | Jan 19 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | Beer at 7? | Jan 19 18:52 |
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| _doug | They jsut stiopped paying me to browse the Internet .. | Jan 19 18:53 |
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| _doug | It's frigging monday already ... :( | Jan 19 18:53 |
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| _doug | re: "a plan for Wiki edit", write up an editing stylesheet, give examples ... | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | o | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | | | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | ,'~'. | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | | ____|_ | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | | '___,,_' .----------------. | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | | ||(o |o)| ( KILL ALL HUMANS! ) | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | | ------- ,----------------' | Jan 19 18:54 |
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| _doug | | _____| -' | Jan 19 18:55 |
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| _doug | \ '####, | Jan 19 18:55 |
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| _doug | ------- | Jan 19 18:55 |
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| _doug | not much conversation going on here, why not bump anyone who doesn't contribute ? | Jan 19 18:55 |
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| benJIman | As opposed to people who spam the channel with ascii art? | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | benJIman: you're here for Novell, no? | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | I'm adding linkage in the Wiki right now.. | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| _doug | ___________________ _-_ | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| _doug | \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| _doug | \_ \ \----._________.----/ | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| _doug | \ \ / / `-_-' | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| _doug | __,--`.`-'..'-_ | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| _doug | `--.____,-' | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| benJIman | Yes, they pay me to watch this channel. | Jan 19 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | You get compensated in other ways | Jan 19 18:57 |
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| _doug | hi benJIman, I sooo missed you ? | Jan 19 18:57 |
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| _doug | at least I gave free entertainment :) | Jan 19 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/1130536566 "Netcraft January 2009 Web Server Survey: Apache up 1%, Microsoft down 0.9%; even wider gap for active sites " | Jan 19 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | Not enough host 'incentives'..........\? | Jan 19 18:57 |
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| _doug | ,dP""8a "888888b, d8b "888b ,888" | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | 88b " 888 d88 dPY8b 88Y8b,8888 | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | `"Y8888a 888ad8P'dPaaY8b 88 Y88P888 | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | a Y88 888 dP Y8b 88 YP 888 | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | `"8ad8P'a888a a88a;*a888aa88a a888a | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| MinceR | spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam spam | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| *MinceR sings the Spam Song | Jan 19 18:58 |
| schestowitz | They give a bad name for the dietary product those crackers.. | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | .--..--..--..--..--..--. | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | .' \ (`._ (_) _ \ | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | .' | '._) (_) | | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | \ _.')\ .----..---. / | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | |(_.' | / .-\-. \ | | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | \ 0| | ( O| O) | o| | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | | _ | .--.____.'._.-. | | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | \ (_) | o -` .-` | | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | | \ |`-._ _ _ _ _\ / | Jan 19 18:58 |
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| _doug | \ | | `. |_||_| | | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe the companies behind real spam will sue the press | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | | o | \_ \ | -. .-. | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | |.-. \ `--..-' O | `.`-' .' | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | _.' .' | `-.-' /-.__ ' .-' | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | Like the "netbook" suit | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | .' `-.` '.|='=.='=.='=.='=|._/_ `-'.' | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | `-._ `. |________/\_____| `-.' | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | _doug: enough | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | .' ).| '=' '='\/ '=' | | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | `._.` '---------------' | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | || || | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | ||_.-. ||_.-. | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| _doug | (_.--__) (_.--__) | Jan 19 18:59 |
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| *_doug has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Jan 19 18:59 |
| benJIman | Nought point nine percent? Stop the presses! | Jan 19 19:00 |
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| tessier_ | At least he's obedient. Like my dog. | Jan 19 19:00 |
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| jose | schestowitz, when you spoke about having a raw copy, were you talking to me? Did you ask because you think re-printing from LT might be a problem? | Jan 19 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 19 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | No | Jan 19 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | Oops.. I mean yes to the former, no to the matter | Jan 19 19:02 |
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| jose | ok | Jan 19 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | Of course copy and paste from page or source is possible, but maybe you use an editor to do that (I use Kate) | Jan 19 19:03 |
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| jose | ok, so if i don't get back to you on this in a couple of weeks, feel free to edit as you which and post if you wish. | Jan 19 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks! | Jan 19 19:04 |
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| jose | i'll send you an email with the text if you want it, though copying from lt (firefox to kate) should work i would think | Jan 19 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | I've just done Slated's. | Jan 19 19:04 |
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| jose | s/which/wish | Jan 19 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | A little strong in terms of language: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/19/european... | Jan 19 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Miguel won't like it either (he reads us) | Jan 19 19:05 |
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| MinceR | benJIman: i know it hurts you, but apache still has greater market share than iis :> | Jan 19 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | Obama quits'..................... ................................. spam recruits zombie drones < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/19/oba... > | Jan 19 19:06 |
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