02.26.09

Gemini version available ♊︎

Novell Results Are in: Net is Down Very Sharply (36%)

Posted in Finance, Microsoft, Mono, Novell, OpenSUSE, SLES/SLED at 5:52 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Sell Novell

FORECASTS [1] and waiting games [2] are both over. Novell’s latest results are in and they are no better than the last quarter’s (revealing that Novell operates at a considerable loss).

So first of all — let’s start with the good news. Novell employees needn’t worry about Ron, who received a $6.9 million compensation plan for his ‘wonderful’ achievements. It was similar two years ago.

But what are these achievements? Driving the company to this?

Novell Inc.’s (NOVL) fiscal first-quarter net income fell 36% on sharply lower interest income as invoicing fell short of expectations.

Here are the earnings figures:

For the first quarter, the company reported earnings of $10.7 million, or 3 cents a share, compared with $16.8 million, or 5 cents a share, in the year-ago period.

Revenue is down too:

Novell reported net revenue of $215 million, compared to $231 million previous year. Ten Wall Street analysts expected revenues of $229.95 million.

This pretty much confirms what we already know about the layoff because the company must explain to investors what it will do next. Novell has already laid off at least 25 SUSE-focused employees. They would have cost about 25 x $70,000 = $1.75m to keep per year. So they could, in principle, work for 4 years with a good wage at the expense of that “compensation” for Ron Hovsepian. How does it feel to be shafted by the very same management that sold out to Steve Ballmer, who is already busy suing Linux [1, 2]?

“Did they learn nothing from those FAT patents?”Meanwhile, elsewhere inside the company, Novell is making .NET more popular. Did they learn nothing from those FAT patents? Is Novell just another Microsoft department now? One that’s producing Windows software like NetWare and some Microsoft ‘plugins’ or Microsoft ‘addons’ for GNU/Linux (Mono, Moonlight)? For that task, Microsoft must be inside GNU/Linux, hence the alliance with Novell. They get to be inside SUSE, they have indirect membership in places like the Linux Foundation [1, 2, 3] and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. They gag critics that way. Even Red Hat must keep polite now.

As a side note, since everyone is talking about TomTom at the moment, it’s worth emphasising that this patent situation shows precisely what Microsoft might do with Mono and Moonlight and why it wants them inside GNU/Linux (Moonlight brings Mono with it to desktops like KDE). Novell increasingly focuses on Microsoft technologies. One of our readers said one hour ago that he tried “compiling mono from SVN on [his] gentoo box and it crashes with a sigsegv in the make process.”

The reader claims: “I go ask at #mono (on the gnome irc network) and miguel says ‘gentoo is eternally broken’.”

That’s nice. On the face of it, the only thing that’s “eternally broken” is Novell. And to quote other people, “Novell Is bleeding to death.”
____

[1] The Outlook

Computer maker Dell Inc., retailer Kohl’s and software developer Novell Inc. of Waltham report quarterly financial results.

[2] Dell, Gap, Kohl’s, Novell on earnings deck

Novell Inc., which provides open source software for businesses, is foreseen posting fiscal first-quarter earnings of 6 cents a share on revenue of $227.4 million. Its shares were up 1.2% at $3.34.

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Reddit
  • email

Decor ᶃ Gemini Space

Below is a Web proxy. We recommend getting a Gemini client/browser.

Black/white/grey bullet button This post is also available in Gemini over at this address (requires a Gemini client/browser to open).

Decor ✐ Cross-references

Black/white/grey bullet button Pages that cross-reference this one, if any exist, are listed below or will be listed below over time.

Decor ▢ Respond and Discuss

Black/white/grey bullet button If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

22 Comments

  1. Myfraudsoft said,

    February 26, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Gravatar

    Well of course, Gentoo is “eternally broken”. Any non-Ballnux distro is.

  2. Ghazan said,

    February 26, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Gravatar

    You have been talking about big cuts at Novell coming this week, but nothing happened. Was your source, who you were so sure about, just wrong?

  3. Roy Schestowitz said,

    February 27, 2009 at 6:54 am

    Gravatar

    Novell could axe jobs on falling demand
    http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuId=3&ContentID=127140

  4. a said,

    February 27, 2009 at 7:21 am

    Gravatar

    Gentoo is broken because people who don’t understand the implications of applying a specific compiler option apply it anyway. It’s a known fact that GCC can break applications when aggressive optimisations are enabled. If users don’t understand this, it’s their fault and maybe their distros fault for not making this clear.

    There are many OS projects out there who won’t deal with gentoo related crashes for exactly this reason.

  5. Dan O'Brian said,

    February 27, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Gravatar

    Your friend Balrog also refused to take suggestions on how to get it to compile.

    Pretty dishonest overall, not that anyone expects any less of you and your trolls.

  6. Ian said,

    February 27, 2009 at 8:16 am

    Gravatar

    One that’s producing Windows software like NetWare

    I just tried to install Netware on windows. It didn’t work.

  7. Roy Schestowitz said,

    February 27, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Gravatar

    IPX/SPX, Windows drivers, etc.

  8. Balrog said,

    February 27, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Gravatar

    I was looking for suggestions in the first place (or I wouldn’t be there). I didn’t get any useful information overall; apparently no one knows / no one cares.
    Obviously, the Gentoo people blame Mono (I asked at #gentoo too) by saying it’s probably buggy code (it sure seems that way).

    All I got from #mono was that Gentoo was doing something weird, which after checking the ebuilds, wasn’t true, and the patches Gentoo applies are bugfixes that are already incorporated into trunk.
    Just my two cents. I want something that works, and if it doesn’t, there is a need to fix it.

  9. Ian said,

    February 27, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Gravatar

    IPX/SPX, Windows drivers, etc.

    IPX is basically dead. Novell isn’t a hardware company, so what drivers are they making? I don’t understand what you’re angling at?

  10. Roy Schestowitz said,

    February 27, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Gravatar

    Client side mostly.

    A lot of the networked environments they target are just enabling Windows clusters, at least based on my personal experience. “Windows software like NetWare” was a quickly-thrown-in phrase that I wrote in IRC and then passed over very sloppily for a blog where the key part was “Microsoft ‘plugins’ or Microsoft ‘addons’ for GNU/Linux.”

    Novell is still dependent on Microsoft and Windows. It complements the empire of an abuser. And that was the key point.

  11. Acai said,

    February 27, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Gravatar

    It’s a known fact that GCC can break applications when aggressive optimisations are enabled. If users don’t understand this, it’s their fault and maybe their distros fault for not making this clear.

  12. Ian said,

    February 27, 2009 at 9:18 am

    Gravatar

    You’re not wrong then. But you’re also ignoring the fact that almost all of their customers run Windows on the workstation. Are you advocating Novell stop support Windows? If Novell considered that at any point in the near future, they might as well just lock the doors and call it now.

  13. Roy Schestowitz said,

    February 27, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Gravatar

    It has always made Novell an odd bedmate for S.u.S.E.

  14. Ian said,

    February 27, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Gravatar

    When you think about it, not really. NetWare was a dead end without a major rebuild and lacked 3rd party support. Novell’s desktop strategy isn’t very clear, but their server strategy is, which explains Suse.

  15. Dan O'Brian said,

    February 27, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Gravatar

    Balrog: First off, it’s pretty dishonest of you to:

    1. complain when svn won’t build (svn, by its very nature, is in flux)
    2. not mention which revision on which branch you are even talking about
    3. not mention which gcc flags you used (for mono /and/ the rest of your system, e.g. glibc, etc)
    4. compiling software on gentoo is asking for problems. according to google, people have problems compiling KDE and the stability of KDE apps (and no doubt other apps) on Gentoo systems.

    Once again, purposely trying to fail – just like Roy’s other friend who purposely tried to fail to build Moonlight so that he had an excuse to fail. And… just like him, you chose to build from svn.

    Dishonest? Or just retarded?

    I’ll leave it as an exercise to the reader to decide.

    If you really want Mono or Moonlight, and you just *have* to compile your own instead of using packages, why not at least use released versions? Preferably source packages put together by your distro maintainers.

  16. Anonymous said,

    February 27, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Gravatar

    > Novell could axe jobs on falling demand

    You’re avoiding to answer Ghazan’s eligible questions. You have been touting imminent huge layoffs. So where are they? Or will you for once admit that your site is only about spreading FUD?

  17. Roy Schestowitz said,

    February 27, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Gravatar

    Be patient. My source was reliable.

  18. saulgoode said,

    February 27, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Gravatar

    If you really want Mono or Moonlight, and you just *have* to compile your own instead of using packages,…

    Isn’t that *required* if anything other than Microsoft’s proprietary codecs are to be used?

  19. Roy Schestowitz said,

    February 27, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Gravatar

    ..Which would be wiser now that Microsoft is suing Linux and looking for infringements inside it (e.g. FAT)?

    See this article for details.

  20. Balrog said,

    February 27, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Gravatar

    @Dan O’Brian:
    I was compiling from SVN to test out the new .NET 3 support and Silverlight 2.0 support. I’m not complaining about the build failing, but about their refusal to help and telling me to ask at #gentoo (where those people tell me it’s a bug in Mono).

    I have used release versions, and yes, the do work (fine in Gentoo, by the way), but that’s not the point here. SVN is there for testing, and if it doesn’t work, troubleshooting is necessary so the maintainer can fix the problems. Seems like this wasn’t the case in this situation.
    I used the ‘moon’ branch from SVN, latest rev. My gcc flags are quite standard (I’m using regular ‘make’ by the way).

    @saulgoode:
    Yes, you need to compile from source to use ffmpeg codecs, but not from SVN. (The ebuild for Moonlight in the gentoo portage tree doesn’t have an option for proprietary codecs, by the way.) Silverlight 1.0 support does NOT require Mono, so that makes it easier.
    But to test the new features that are supposed to be coming soon (basically .NET 3.0 support and Silverlight 2.0 support), you need SVN mono and SVN moonlight. I understand it may be broken, but dismissing the problem and blaming the distro people isn’t going to fix it.

  21. Gentoo User said,

    February 27, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Gravatar

    Be patient. My source was reliable.

    That wouldn’t happen to be the same “source” you used here, would it?

    By the way,

    How does it feel to be shafted by the very same management that sold out to Steve Ballmer, who is already busy suing Linux

    Your callousness is appalling. It’s easy to sit there and pontificate like this to normal people who have nothing to do with your grievances when you don’t have a job to lose, a family to feed or apparently any other sort of responsibility beyond writing a blog and pretending you’re important, isn’t it?

  22. seller_liar said,

    February 28, 2009 at 8:19 am

    Gravatar

    Mono (and some other mono packages) from stable release fails a lot .Sometimes , Mono and mono packages does not detect the dependencies correctly (gtk-sharp, gtkhtml, ligdiplus and other monodevelop).

    Result : all autconf tests passes, but the app does not run.Or autconf does not find dependencies.(Mono packages does not use similar PATH)

    Monodevelop installs but does not run if some dependence have not found.The big problem is the monodevelop autconf runs 100% , but fail when try to run monodevelop

DecorWhat Else is New


  1. Links 21/10/2021: MX Linux 21 and Git Contributors’ Summit in a Nutshell

    Links for the day



  2. [Meme] [Teaser] Miguel de Icaza on CEO of Microsoft GitHub

    Our ongoing series, which is very long, will shed much-needed light on GitHub and its goals (the dark side is a lot darker than people care to realise)



  3. Gemini Protocol and Gemini Space Are Not a Niche; for Techrights, Gemini Means Half a Million Page Requests a Month

    Techrights on gemini:// has become very big and we’ll soon regenerate all the pages (about 37,500 of them) to improve clarity, consistency, and general integrity



  4. 'Satellite States' of EPO Autocrats

    Today we look more closely at how Baltic states were rendered 'voting fodder' by large European states, looking to rubber-stamp new and oppressive measures which disempower the masses



  5. [Meme] Don't Mention 'Brexit' to Team UPC

    It seems perfectly clear that UPC cannot start, contrary to what the EPO‘s António Campinos told the Council last week (lying, as usual) and what the EPO insinuates in Twitter; in fact, a legal challenge to this should be almost trivial



  6. The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IXX: The Baltic States

    How unlawful EPO rules were unsurprisingly supported by Benoît Battistelli‘s friends in Baltic states; António Campinos maintained those same unlawful rules and Baltic connections, in effect liaising with offices known for their corruption (convicted officials, too; they did not have diplomatic immunity, unlike Battistelli and Campinos)



  7. Links 21/10/2021: GIMP 2.99.8 Released, Hardware Shortages, Mozilla Crisis

    Links for the day



  8. How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini

    Popular movements and even some courageous publications have long been subverted by demonisation tactics, splits along unrelated grounds (such as controversial politics) and — failing that — technical sabotage and censorship; one must familiarise oneself with commonly-recurring themes of social control by altercation



  9. [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues

    Financial strangulations for Benoît Battistelli‘s unlawful “Strike Regulations”? The EPO will come to regret 2013…



  10. [Meme] Is Saying “No!” to Unlawful Proposals Considered “Impolite”?

    A ‘toxic mix’ of enablers and cowards (who won’t vote negatively on EPO proposals which they know to be unlawful) can serve to show that the EPO isn’t a “social democracy” as Benoît Battistelli liked to call it; it’s just a dictatorship, currently run by the son of a person who actually fought dictatorship



  11. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 20, 2021

    IRC logs for Wednesday, October 20, 2021



  12. [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping

    An imaginary EPO intercept of Administrative Council discussions in June 2013...



  13. Links 21/10/2021: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.0 and Maui Report

    Links for the day



  14. [Meme] [Teaser] “Judge a Person Both by His Friends and Enemies”

    Fervent supporters of Team Battistelli or Team Campinos (a dark EPO era) are showing their allegiances; WIPO and EPO have abused staff similarly over the past decade or so



  15. 'Cluster-Voting' in the European Patent Office/Organisation (When a Country With 1.9 Million Citizens Has the Same Voting Power as a Country With 83.1 Million Citizens)

    Today we examine who has been running the Finnish patent office and has moreover voted in the EPO during the ballot on unlawful "Strike Regulations"; they voted in favour of manifestly illegal rules and for 8.5 years after that (including last Wednesday) they continued to back a shady regime which undermines the EPO's mission statement



  16. The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XVIII: Helsinki's Accord

    The Finnish outpost has long been strategic to the EPO because it can help control the vote of four or more nations; evidence suggests this has not changed



  17. [Meme] Living as a Human Resource, Working for Despots

    The EPO has become a truly awful place/employer to work for; salary is 2,000 euros for some (despite workplace stress, sometimes relocation to a foreign country)



  18. Links 20/10/2021: New Redcore Linux and Hospital Adoption of GNU Health

    Links for the day



  19. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 19, 2021

    IRC logs for Tuesday, October 19, 2021



  20. Links 19/10/2021: Karanbir Singh Leaves CentOS Board, GPL Violations at Vizio

    Links for the day



  21. [Meme] Giving the Knee

    The 'knee' champion Kratochvìl and 'kneel' champion Erlingsdóttir are simply crushing the law; they’re ignoring the trouble of EPO staff and abuses of the Office, facilitated by the Council itself (i.e. facilitated by themselves)



  22. Josef Kratochvìl Rewarded Again for Covering Up EPO Corruption and the EPO Bribes the Press for Lies Whilst Also Lying About Its Colossal Privacy Violations

    Corrupt officials and officials who actively enable the crimes still control the Office and also the body which was supposed to oversee it; it's pretty evident and clear judging by this week's press statements at the EPO's official Web site



  23. [Meme] Sorry, Wrong Country (Or: Slovenia isn't Great Britain)

    Team UPC is trying to go ahead with a total hoax which a high-level European court would certainly put an end to (if or when a referral is initiated)



  24. How Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Norway and Sweden Voted on Patently Unlawful Regulations at the EPO

    We look back and examine what happened 8 years ago when oppressed staff was subjected to unlawful new “regulations” (long enjoyed by António Campinos, the current EPO autocrat)



  25. The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XVII: The Non-Monolithic Nordic Bloc

    We start our investigation of how countries in northern Europe ended up voting on the unlawful “Strike Regulations” at the EPO and why



  26. Proof That Windows “11” is a Hoax

    Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission



  27. Firefox Becomes as Morally Reprehensible as Apple, Facebook, or Uber

    Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission



  28. Links 19/10/2021: GNU dbm 1.22 and Godot 3.4 RC 1

    Links for the day



  29. [Meme] [Teaser] GitHub an Expensive and Dangerous Trap (Also: Misogyny Hub)

    The ongoing Microsoft GitHub exposé will give people compelling reasons to avoid GitHub, which is basically just a subsidised (at a loss) trap



  30. Norway Should Have Voted Against Benoît Battistelli's Illegal (Anti-)'Strike Regulations' at the European Patent Office

    Benoît Battistelli‘s EPO faced no real and potent opposition from Norwegian delegates, who chose to abstain from the vote on the notorious and illegal so-called ‘Strike Regulations’ (they’re just an attack on strikes, an assault on basic rights of labourers)


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts