07.13.09

“I Am Not Afraid of…”

Posted in Mono, Site News at 7:23 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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8 Comments

Avuton Olrich said,

July 13, 2009 at 9:01 am

Are we talking about http://www.fooishbar.org/blog/tech/boycottinsanity-2009-07-13-19-04.html

Andrew Macabe Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am
No, but nice try. The link is http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/13/there-fixed-that-for-you/
eet said,

July 13, 2009 at 9:59 am

No wonder, Roy, character assasination is what you do best.
JohnD said,

July 13, 2009 at 4:25 pm

C’mon people, not one person posted the obvious response?
Greg said,

July 13, 2009 at 5:01 pm

Face it – Microsoft has legally agreed not to sue over C#/CLI. The central reason for the existence of your blog has disappeared.

Life is short – there are better things to do.

Stop being a hater – learn to write code. Join the free software meritocracy. Influence the communities direction via the code you commit. Let other people do in their own time, as they wish.

I am afraid of people who stir up hate, and damage the community that I belong to.

Jose_X Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
My reply on that website parallels some problems with the MCP

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>> Image released under the mono-nono.com Community Promise. Patent sharing secretive deals also available. We do not offer GPLv3, so quit asking you smelly hippies.

What about the patents that you do not currently own or control but which you are aware exist (eg, from partners) and possibly created yourself and later sold (eg, to patent trolls)?

If I want to use that image for a common purpose (like displaying it on a webpage), where I would also be violating other patents you have (on inventions using that image for webpage use), then can I instead use a partial implementation of that image so that I don’t violate your other patents? Or do I lose patent protections to this image if I only do a partial implementation of it?

Is it true that you have many many patents for inventions that use that image specifically to do otherwise ordinary things like opening it in a paint program?

I do not believe it is in my best interest to use your image AT ALL until I get satisfactory answers to these questions.

Thank you very much.

PS: software patents may be dealt a convincing death blow by the courts. If so, I may consider using some of the interesting ideas from your picture but with an eye towards a better implementation of it and in ways where my huge investment in existing artwork and themes won’t go to waste.
Chips_B_Malroy said,

July 13, 2009 at 6:56 pm

Greg said,

“Face it – Microsoft has legally agreed not to sue over C#/CLI. The central reason for the existence of your blog has disappeared.”
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Really? Sounded more like “a verbal” promise, with so many ifs ands and buts, to be virtually worthless to anyone but maybe Suse. Certainly not legal, and if MS had wanted to make it legal, they could have just given a legal license in writing to say the FSF. Not hard at all to do is it? But MS did not do that did they? In fact, MS may have made things even more confusing.

While I am not totally against the Mono/Moonlight project, still I have to ask why? Why do we need it? Is Mono there so MS can spread Moonlight (Silverlight) with the help of Linux? This is the other half of online advertising, its not all about Google, MS wants to kill Adobe Flash as well. And what about Moonlight depending on Mono? Why would we want that? Lets see, we get an buggie inferior Moonlight, which presently at version 1, and they (Miguel) are trying to release a beta of version 2. But at the same time Silverlight 3.0 has already been released on Windows. Sounds to me that M$ only wants the commercials flash type ads on websites to run on Moonlight/Linux, and the almost no premium content stuff like Netflix, to run only on the newest Silverlight/Windows. Moonlight on Linux will always be full of bugs and behind the times that it will not run the good stuff. As such, there is no reason to support it by the average Linux user.

In fact, many of us Linux users, are here to get away from the problems of MS software. Mono is just a bad idea in general.

But still I would not be against Mono, if its was not on live cd’s, if it was not in distro’s repo’s, and if the GPL license was revoked, and it had to use another license.
JohnD said,

July 13, 2009 at 6:59 pm

Oh alright I’ll do it.
You gotta have character before it can be assassinated.
Ba da bump.
That door was so wide open I could hear Creed through my speakers.