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11.14.09

Is the Mono Project Run Partly by Microsoft Now?

Posted in GNU/Linux, Microsoft, Mono, Novell at 11:52 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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Summary: New Mono tools publicly attributed to Microsoft, just like Moonlight

Novell’s PR department has made some noise about the company’s latest product that is an addon to Microsoft Visual Studio. We wrote about this earlier in the week [1, 2, 3].

This news about Mono is still spreading through IDG domains, so it never really ages (same article posted over and over again). Even the ‘Microsoft press’ covers this important milestone for Visual Studio. Microsoft must be thankful to Novell; lovers of Mono sure are.

“Even some of the Mono team is former Microsoft employees.”A Microsoft-boosting site, TG Daily, has chosen the headline “Microsoft to ship Linux tools” and along the same lines we find the article Microsoft to enable Visual Studio on Linux and Mac OS X”

Hold on a second.

Microsoft?

Wasn’t it a Novell project? [correction: in this case, the articles refer to Teamprise, not Mono, but the hypothesis that Microsoft plays a role in Mono still stands, based on other evidence]

Is Mono becoming a Microsoft project just like Moonlight? Any way one looks at it, Novell acts like an arm of Microsoft, extending Windows/Microsoft monoculture to other territories. It is only a matter of time before everyone wakes up. Even some of the Mono team comprises former Microsoft employees.

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7 Comments

  1. wickedshimmy said,

    November 15, 2009 at 11:37 am

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    “A Microsoft-boosting site, TG Daily, has chosen the headline “Microsoft to ship Linux tools” and along the same lines we find the article “Microsoft to enable Visual Studio on Linux and Mac OS X”

    Hold on a second.

    Microsoft?

    Wasn’t it a Novell project?”

    Don’t look now, but your utter lack of research is showing. Both of those articles are about Microsoft’s purchase of Teamprise, and have less than nothing to do with any of Mono, the new Visual Studio Tools, or Novell.

    Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    You’re right. I’m going to correct this.

    your_friend Reply:

    Why so negative, WickeShim? Roy has stumbled upon another story of Microsoft squashing competition. Can you tell us more about this intigrating competitor that Microsoft just bought out? Acquisition by Microsoft usually leads to the removal of tools because they do the job better than the Microsoft toy or the other tool threatens some other Microsoft goal. A good example of that would be the wave of backup software acquisitions Microsoft made in the mid 90s.

    In this example, Microsoft is acquiring a development tool that competed with Visual Studio. The carefully worded Microsoft press release claims that the “technology” will be “available in the Visual Studio 2010 wave” and that the Teampise Client Suite will only be available and supported until VS launches. So Microsoft is eliminating a mono competitor and people sick enough to fool with W32 are forced to the Microsoft taxed and approved Visual Studio or Novell. Per Microsoft’s Shady Operating Procedures, the terms were not disclosed and are unavailable for research. The details are less important than the big picture.

    The real mystery is that people still have anything to do with the a criminal organization that considers them “pawns” and one night stands. Though it looks like Novell is being helped here, you have to remember that all Novell’s mono efforts distract from their core products and that Microsoft is busy replacing Groupware with Exchange. Novell would have been better off eliminating their Microsoft dependencies and converting it’s existing Groupware base to Suse.

    Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    Why so negative, WickeShim?

    No, technically he is correct. I wrote about Teamprise a few days ago and the VS+Linux content had me overlook the obvious.

    Thanks, WickeShim.

    As for “utter lack of research,” given that I posted about 8,000 items here, errors may sometimes occur, not deliberately. It helps to have corrections.

    your_friend Reply:

    Technically correct, factually misleading and entirely negative. It would be nice of WickeShim to share real information about Teamprise rather than try to use one factual mistake to attack the author and undermine all of the correct information presented. Perhaps I’m wrong about Microsoft’s intentions for buying Teamprise but their products are surely related to things that are near and dear to Novell these days.

    Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    It’s more to do with promoting VS (thus Windows, .NET, XAML, and so on).

    “Every line of code that is written to our standards is a small victory; every line of code that is written to any other standard, is a small defeat.”

    James Plamondon, Microsoft Technical Evangelist. From Exhibit 3096; Comes v. Microsoft litigation [PDF]

  2. verofakto said,

    November 15, 2009 at 5:36 pm

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    @Roy,

    Would it not be appropriate for you to disclose who “your_friend” actually is? Especially in light of the fact that he’s fallen into the old pattern of attacking people who post corrections or disagree with you? And your accusations of “nymshifting” directed at people who used multiple accounts on your blog, because you deleted their accounts? Did you also delete his old account by any chance?

    As for corrections, just off the top of my head, you might want to revisit this article. I suspect your conclusions about this Andrea Taylor woman were a bit rushed and based on what you were reading in her bio, because I could find no evidence that she has attended or otherwise engaged any United Nations summits on behalf of Microsoft.

    Well, most inaccuracies are usually lost in the shuffle of your posting volume anyway, so it’s probably not important.

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