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Microsoft MVP Miguel de Icaza Does Not Know What Will Happen to Mono

Posted in Mono, Novell, Patents at 2:14 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz


Summary: Novell’s sale to AttachMSFT [sic] leaves Novell VP and Microsoft MVP Miguel de Icaza unable to promise Mono’s safety

Quoting Slashdot regarding the deal and particularly this thread:

Just sent two tweets to Miguel de Icaza about this:

@migueldeicaza So does it mean you will be somehow now working for Microsoft

@migueldeicaza Sorry meant to add a question mark… And how about IP rights for Mono? What does it mean copyrights-wise? Not worried?

And here’s his answer:

@2green Dont know the answer to that.

Further down it rightly says:

Miguel was very quick indeed to try to spread FUD and capitalize on the uncertainty that Oracle brought to Java, e.g. see: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Oct-26.html [tirania.org] I wonder how is this going to impact his disposition. Let me guess, it’s still better than Java right?

Another person says:

He has clarified that “don’t know” now:

@migueldeicaza So apparently Mono is NOT part of the IP that is being sold by Attachmate to Microsoft?
@eric_sink I dont know, what I know is that the exact details of the transaction are under SEC regulations, so info is limited.

Moonlight is probably as dead as Siverlight, so let us hope Mono is next to die. These are Microsoft projects, not GNU/Linux projects.

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  1. bohu said,

    November 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm


    May I offer a criticism (constructive I hope)? I’ve always enjoyed the names you make up for the enemies of freedom (things like silverlie, etc). I get a lot of laughs from it. And as they say, a lot truth is spoken in jest. But I just realized the reason that is funny is because I’ve been keeping up and know the real names for these things.

    I’ve been gone a few days and came back to find Novel is sold. You called the buyer AttachMSFT and since the whole thing was news to me I had no idea the name of the real company until I found it later in the article.

    It was very disorienting at first. I like the pointed humor with things like silverLIE and calling senor de icaza a microsoft MVP, but for people not in the loop this has got to be confusing. Not sure how to fix this. Maybe with breaking news involving new players, you should use real names for the first week or so?

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    I think about it too, whenever I write in fact. I try to add/type “[sic]” at the very least in the first occurrence, sometimes excepting the headlines. The changes of product and company names are never rude (hypePad, Vista 7, AttachMSFT). The FSF has a similar system of renaming things, but the idea came up independently about 2 years ago in our IRC channel. People thought it would only help advertise the products if their names were not changed somewhat to add a derogatory association/connotation, e.g. KINect, AZune. The Inquirer adopts this type of style too — a style that I only dare to embrace in this medium in order to make reading fun. In our audiocast I use proper names strictly. It’s the same in my personal blog.

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