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Microsoft Discriminates Against Liberation Serif — Claim

Posted in Microsoft, Open XML, OpenDocument at 12:52 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Summary: Somebody in the #techrights IRC channel claims that Microsoft stifles font interoperability

Can any of our readers please confirm if this is true? And if so, is it “just a coincidence” or intentional? It’s clear what Microsoft would say — pretty much the same thing is says when it wipes the MBR/all partitions upon Windows installation.

twitter I had an annoying thing happen the other day.  I tried to share with a Microsoft user, only to find out that Office 2007 displays a horrid font for Liberation Serif. Jan 14 00:01
twitter Instead of displaying the nearly identical Times New Roman or Liberation Serif, it displays some kind of win 3.1 era font.  I don’t see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Font_Comparison_-_Liberation_Serif_to_Times_New_Roman.svg Jan 14 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden Jan 14 00:02
twitter I see something else. Jan 14 00:02
twitter When I looked the issue up , I found ” Microsoft                                         Unicode BMP only” Jan 14 00:03
twitter http://www.fonts2u.com/liberation-serif-bold.font Jan 14 00:03
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Liberation Serif Bold font .::. Size~: 38.13 KB Jan 14 00:03
twitter So how’s that for interoperability?  You can’t cooperate with a malicious bully.  The bully will always do something nasty and blame you for the results. Jan 14 00:04
twitter On the funny side, I also noticed that Microsoft is a big Linux user http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=social.answers.microsoft.com Jan 14 00:04
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Netcraft What’s That Site Running Results .::. Size~: 12.39 KB Jan 14 00:04
twitter ” F5′s BIG-IP product is based on a network appliance (either virtual or physical), which runs F5′s Traffic Management Operating System (TMOS), which runs on top of Linux.” -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F5_Networks Jan 14 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr Title: F5 Networks – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 51.47 KB Jan 14 00:05
DaemonFC twitter, There’s a word for that….. Jan 14 00:05
DaemonFC “Oops! :)” Jan 14 00:05
DaemonFC they’re so petty they’ll even screw up the fonts in a document someone made without MS Word Jan 14 00:06
twitter most of those kinds of screw ups are intentional.  there’s no reason for Microsoft to not carry and render common free software fonts Jan 14 00:07
DaemonFC You never know what you’ll get when you trade documents with an MS Office user Jan 14 00:07
DaemonFC or what will happen when they go to open yours Jan 14 00:07
DaemonFC good thing OOXML is such an open standard and always works the same way twice Jan 14 00:08
twitter you can be sure that nothing will ever interoperate with Microsoft, not even Microsoft. Jan 14 00:08
DaemonFC :) Jan 14 00:08
DaemonFC yeah, 2010 finally supports the OOXML ISO standard, but only for reading Jan 14 00:08
DaemonFC if you get a valid file in Office 2010 and save it, it uses the same broken format as Office 2007 Jan 14 00:09
twitter Well, the real answer is to tell the person on the other end to just get Open Office. Jan 14 00:09
DaemonFC so even if the next Office actually spits out ISO OOXML, the first time an Office 2010 user opens and saves, it’ll be screwed up again Jan 14 00:09
twitter They do a free download and install or you spend $400, and have to find a VM with Winblows on it. Jan 14 00:10
DaemonFC it’s pointless to support the valid standard for import when there’s nothing that can actually create a compliant file Jan 14 00:10
DaemonFC including their own product Jan 14 00:10
DaemonFC makes me wonder why they did it Jan 14 00:10
DaemonFC I still save to Word 2000′s binary format Jan 14 00:11
DaemonFC because it’s the only way to be sure they’ll open in newer versions of MS Office Jan 14 00:12
cubezzz just use ASCII Jan 14 00:12
twitter Microsoft made a phoney open document format so they could pretend to meet government standards for software freedom and interoperability. Jan 14 00:12
cubezzz ;-) Jan 14 00:12
twitter I use ODF for my work. Jan 14 00:12
twitter or plain text via email. Jan 14 00:12
DaemonFC Indiana says that it’s acceptable for government agencies to use OOXML, ODF, or PDF Jan 14 00:12
cubezzz ok, sometimes I do use pdf Jan 14 00:13
DaemonFC but all you ever get from them is OOXML Jan 14 00:13
twitter why did they start using OOXML? Jan 14 00:13
cubezzz I’ve never used OOXML Jan 14 00:13
DaemonFC the state is schizophrenic Jan 14 00:13
cubezzz embrace -> extend (you are here) -> Jan 14 00:13
DaemonFC they use OOXML, at the same time they transition their websites over to Apache on Linux Jan 14 00:13
twitter You can be sure they get a lot of complaints. Jan 14 00:14
DaemonFC they’re also migrating to W3C compliant pages on those sites Jan 14 00:14
DaemonFC but about half the sites haven’t switched over yet Jan 14 00:14
twitter You should complain to them. Jan 14 00:14
DaemonFC so you need Internet Explorer to open half, and a compliant browser to get the compliant pages IE won’t load Jan 14 00:14
DaemonFC it’s a clusterfuck of Microsoft and Open Source Jan 14 00:15
DaemonFC a train wreck Jan 14 00:15
twitter Tell them that it is wrong to be forced to buy a $400 text editor. Jan 14 00:15
DaemonFC I don’t know what they’re doing, I don’t think they do either Jan 14 00:15
twitter They might be making a mess on purpose. Jan 14 00:16
DaemonFC I have to keep a copy of IE 6 in Wine around for when I have to access some state websites Jan 14 00:16
DaemonFC it’s terrible Jan 14 00:16
twitter The lesson to learn is that Microsoft does not mix. Jan 14 00:16
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