Netgear CEO: “Microsoft is Over – Game Over – From My Point of View.”

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-02 16:39:05 UTC
Modified: 2011-02-02 17:11:54 UTC

Summary: In the area of devices Microsoft is totally lost

"Microsoft is over – game over – from my point of view," Netgear co-founder Patrick Lo was quoted as saying several days ago. Steve Ballmer, one of the last remaining senior executives (along with Mundie, as many of the rest fled), needs to explain financial oddities and following "Microsoft Death Watch" (series of posts) Wayne does a number on him. Among the problems listed is the surge of Linux in devices -- either small- or medium-sized:

Power requirements are an issue. Windows is designed for top of the line hardware, not some pokey little ARM chip, so it’s not usable. Because most of the new applications we are going to see over the next couple of years will use ARM. Remember hearing that Google TV is being put back a year? It’s being put back because governments want low powered TV sets, and Google made the mistake of specifying X86 hardware. X86 isn’t low power. So Google had to switch to ARM, which while itself wasn’t difficult (since the software was running on the Linux kernel, which works fine on ARM), is delaying the project.

Dave Methvin has this little game of words with KIN and KINect. When it comes to small devices -- as Vista Phony 7 [sic] helps show -- Microsoft does not matter. ⬆

Comments

girts

2011-02-03 08:32:48

Microsoft is not game over if they will embrance open source technology model!

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-03 08:37:33

They can't. Their business model is currently incompatible.

techwrongs

2011-02-03 23:00:43

Business models can be changed. All you need is a single share to get the floor.

What's stopping you?

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-03 23:02:23

Innovator's dilemma.
techwrongs

2011-02-03 23:13:28

Can you not afford a single share, Roy? Surely if you want Microsoft to change you would be willing to fight for it? Am I wrong? Would you rather stay here on your non-important website pretending to be important to the world, or do you want to actually fight the good fight?

From what I have seen thus far, I don't think you are capable, not even a little.

You would probably choke on the call, wouldn't you?
twitter

2011-02-03 23:30:34

They don't listen to him here, why would they listen to him there? The company will embrace free software, one way or another, sooner or later, or it will cease to exist. I'd be happier with them crashing and burning in a way that would make the failure of non free software painfully obvious. Roy is under no obligation to help them and probably deserves compensation for all of the TEs that have come here to make trouble and waste time.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 06:21:29

Microsoft is not the only company which uses these tactics.

techwrongs

2011-02-03 23:33:17

Nice excuses for inaction, twitter.

twitter

2011-02-03 23:35:58

I'm active enough, just in ways that you and Microsoft don't like.
techwrongs

2011-02-03 23:38:00

Now you make assumptions about me. LOL Yet you imply that *I* am a troll?

If you want to fight Microsoft, man up and do it.
twitter

2011-02-03 23:40:19

I'm sure, with all of your Likewise and Microsoft friends, you are aware of some of my work.
techwrongs

2011-02-03 23:59:51

You are nothing but an anonymous internet account to me. You could comment that you were Richard Stallman, and no-one would believe you.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 06:22:20

You are nothing but an anonymous internet account to me.

Now you know how I feel about you.
techwrongs

2011-02-04 13:32:36

"Now you know how I feel about you."

Oh, you feel something for me?

I'm flattered.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 13:34:34

I don't even know who you are.
techwrongs

2011-02-04 14:19:14

"I don’t even know who you are."

I am the community, Roy.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 14:22:07

Rrrright....

twitter

2011-02-03 00:44:09

Lo is off base when he praises Apple, "the closed platform has been successful for Apple because they've been so far ahead as thought leaders because of Steve Jobs." Apple's runaway success came due to deals with coercive monopoly publishers and telco companies that gave Apple exclusive/favorable access to RIAA music and telco data networks. GNU/Linux developers displayed video phone wristwatches back in 1999 and projects like OpenZaurs foreshadowed most of what Apple wanted to do, years in advance. The price Apple users paid for their music and data networks was the last fig leafs of their software freedom. Apple is now pushing iPod style lockdown back onto their desktops with projects like the iPad, which is basically a scaled down all in one iMac. The efficiency of Apple's software is in direct proportion to Apple's exploitation of free software.

Thanks for catching the Microsoft footnote. I'm going to add it to my Microsoft Death Watch.

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-03 08:38:51

Wayne "The Mad Hatter" has a list with the same title.

Neken

2011-02-02 22:42:06

*cough* Windows 8 on ARM *cough*

http://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/2011/01/ces_2011_windows_on_arm_headli.php

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/microsoft-confirms-arm-support-is-coming-in-windows-will-play-n/

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-02 22:48:16

Snakes on a plane.

So what's the point?

Neken

2011-02-02 22:50:30

His point is : "Power requirements are an issue. Windows is designed for top of the line hardware, not some pokey little ARM chip, so it’s not usable. Because most of the new applications we are going to see over the next couple of years will use ARM."

Microsoft is releasing Windows 8 that runs on ARM. His point is invalid. Can't see why I had to explain this.

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-02 22:57:13

It's mostly vapourware and even Microsoft boosters have been laughing at it. See for example:

http://techrights.org/2011/01/12/arm-harm-by-microsoft-windows/ http://techrights.org/2011/01/06/microsoft-boosters-ridiculing-microsoft/
twitter

2011-02-02 23:25:04

That's not an explanation so much as it is an unsupported and ridiculous assertion. If you are in the mood to explain things on Microsoft's behalf, you might begin by explaining Microsoft's dreadful ARM and mobile reputation. All of the company's efforts have been technical and market failures, from PDAs to Zune and danger and KIN. Are we to expect the software to get better because they changed the name again? To paraphrase a Microsoft training document, if you believe in Microsoft's mobile efforts you probably sleep with decades old teeth under your pillow.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-03 08:40:22

It must have been this internal Microsoft document [PDF] which also says: 'Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2."'

Clanky

2011-02-03 22:10:58

Yeah, it's easy to see how with their paltry 80% + of the desktop market that Microsoft have no chance of survival. Before you know it Linux will reach 2% of desktops and then it will be the year of the linux desktop.

Come on guys, put your efforts into making linux succeed by being better, no amount of pretending that Microsoft is dying is going to make it happen and when they eventually do die (as all companies must at some point) no amount of bullshit internet posts is going to make it happen any faster.

It's like the kings new clothes, everyone seems to be afraid to be the one to stand up and shout "fucking hell, Linux is naked".

As for the original article, I think arm could actually be a good thing for Linux, but I hope that people will be talking about Linux on arm because it is good rather than because it is not as bad as whatever Windows implementation is designed for it.

When you talk about nothing but Windows and Microsoft you make them the standard by which everything else is judged, maybe some of the other posters on here are right and you are being paid by microsoft to discredit the entire FOSS community, now that would be epic trolling! :D

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-03 22:17:32

Oh, look. A person who mocks GNU/Linux claims that others -- those who do not mock GNU/Linux -- "are being paid by microsoft to discredit the entire FOSS community".

Sigh. Go back to Lins*x.

techwrongs

2011-02-03 22:59:20

"Oh, look. A person who mocks GNU/Linux claims that others — those who do not mock GNU/Linux — “are being paid by microsoft to discredit the entire FOSS community”.

Sigh. Go back to Lins*x."

Way to troll there, Roy. He had pretty good points, but you immediately dismissed them because you refuse to see the forest for the trees.

If you want to be taken seriously, you should be a bigger man. This post reeks of drool. Did you drool while you wrote it?

Are you paid by Microsoft to discredit FOSS, Roy? Your utter lack of intellectual response to Clanky above indicates that you may not have the intellectual capacity to do anything but troll your own site.

How sad.

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-03 23:03:21

If you want to be taken seriously, you should be a bigger man. This post reeks of drool. Did you drool while you wrote it?

With attitude like this you deserve no response.
techwrongs

2011-02-03 23:11:37

"With attitude like this you deserve no response."

Way to play your man card there. There is no response because I am right, and you can't prove that I am not right.

You are so full of yourself that you have destroyed your own credibility. I'm not going anywhere, Roy. As long as you post lies, and deceitful, derogatory statements, I'll be here to call you out on them.

Welcome to your new world, Roy.
twitter

2011-02-04 00:29:09

Nice threat, "Welcome to your new world, Roy." It is apparent that you consider yourself a full time pest.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 06:23:17

My world is more real than yours, Mr. Wrongs.
techwrongs

2011-02-04 13:32:04

"Mr. Wrongs."

I love this name, please, keep using it.

"Nice threat"

A threat implies intent of harm, I am not here to harm anyone. Just the opposite. I am here to help inform people of Roys lies.

It is simple to make me go away. Just be honest.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 13:33:48

The point was that you are an anonymous coward dismissing others for being anonymous.
twitter

2011-02-04 14:03:13

The troll is up early. I wonder how late they will labor here.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 14:07:22

I think it runs on rage and not on a buck.
techwrongs

2011-02-04 14:18:17

The point is that you cannot defend your statements made on your website without using deception. You practice the very same practices that you decry Microsoft of using.

Roy, you are no better than your enemy. Your dishonesty harms us all.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 14:21:32

You fail to provide examples. Just vague accusations.

techwrongs

2011-02-04 14:30:04

There are many examples scattered through the comments for your readers to find. As I said, I didn't expect an ego booster such as yourself to ever understand it. I much prefer leading you into showing the truth to them yourself.

The readers will make their own decisions.

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 14:38:12

There are many examples scattered through...

That's what SCO said...
techwrongs

2011-02-04 14:41:28

"That’s what SCO said…"

Yes, that's what SCO said. Except, in this case the evidence is in my comments.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 14:47:02

The 'evidence' that was shot down.
techwrongs

2011-02-04 14:56:28

Except for the fact that you haven't actually done that yet. Perhaps in your mind, but in the comments? No.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2011-02-04 15:00:57

In the comments. You may passionately disagree with me, but all your shouting doesn't constitute a better argument.
techwrongs

2011-02-04 15:13:56

Fair enough, if you'll agree to stop calling me a troll perhaps we can have a constructive conversation.

You still have yet to prove that I am wrong in any statement that I have made.

Netgear CEO: “Microsoft is Over – Game Over – From My Point of View.”

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