EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

08.31.11

Microsoft Tries to Lure Linux Luminaries Away From Linux

Posted in GNU/Linux, Microsoft at 4:15 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Eric Raymond's mug

Summary: Microsoft continues to try buying out its rivals from the GNU/Linux world

TECHRIGHTS has a small repository of information about what Microsoft did to Borland. This predates this site . The short story is, Microsoft abused its monopoly power to crush a smaller competitor, taking away from Borland some of the key people. It’s a form of monopoly abuse that reduces competition and enables Microsoft to boost prices, reduce quality, and lock everyone into Microsoft products (not just development products).

“People who are feeble joined Microsoft and they know who they are.”Microsoft has been trying a similar strategy against Free software and GNU/Linux. We’ve covered some examples before, including Eric Raymond (shown above). People who are feeble joined Microsoft and they know who they are. They sold out. Gianugo Rabellino is one of the latest (now promoting “open surface” nonsense for Microsoft) and Simon Phipps seemed to suggest some months ago that Microsoft was trying to recruit similar people to buy the perception that it is part of its competition and is therefore not worthy of antitrust scrutiny or scepticism. This also disrupts the competition’s operations. Moments ago in IRC we also found out that twice in the past Microsoft tried to recruit the community manager of a GNU/Linux distribution (it’s in our IRC logs). This reminds us of the tactics Microsoft used against Borland, namely destroy the competition by buying it away or removing the key people using money. To quote the confession, “about 4 months into working at [Linux company]I had the second offer” from Microsoft. Quite rightly he refused and we respect this declination which shows the putting of one’s values before money. It helps show the strength of the GNU/Linux community and the sneakiness of Microsoft, which is trying to buy out its competitors and critics (long history there and definitely a subject for another future post).

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

13 Comments

  1. Michael Glasser said,

    August 31, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    Gravatar

    It is not selling out for someone to work for a company you, Roy, do not like. Now if these people claim to share your biases and hatred and then later work for Microsoft you might have a point. You never show they share these things with you though.

    You pretend it is wrong for companies to hire talented people, or people they see as being talented. Why?

    twitter Reply:

    As it is with prostitution, the greater crime is the demand. It is foolish to take an offer from Microsoft but not criminal. Given Microsoft’s coercive monopoly conviction, the offers may be criminal. As Roy clearly pointed out, these hires are designed more to weaken competition than they are to develop anything Microsoft might use. Once the project is disrupted, Microsoft fires their sucker. We can only hope that an outraged public will wake a sleeping US Department of Justice.

    Thanks, Michael Glasser, for twisting Roy’s article around into an attack on developers. I’ve got an article coming about persistent hecklers like you.

    Michael Glasser Reply:

    There are times when going after a person to employ them is wrong – but Roy does nothing to show this is the case here. As far as your claim of the person being fired, there is nothing said about that, either.

    I did nothing to twist his article. The question is a legitimate one: why is it wrong for a company to seek to hire people?

    twitter Reply:

    The answer to your question is in the article and you seem to understand it well enough.

    The person who was fired is another programmer I read about a couple of years ago. He was hired at a supposedly chance meeting and let go a couple of years later.

    Michael Glasser Reply:

    The answer to my question is in the article – but you cannot find it to quote it. Interesting.

    As far as this “other programmer”… maybe…maybe not. And nothing in the article shows it is related to this current situation.

    There is *nothing* wrong with a company asking someone to work for them. And there is *nothing* wrong with that person deciding they should or should not. People have no obligation to limit their choices based on Roy’s biases.

    Would you be against a Linux distro manager asking someone to help them or come work for them?

    twitter Reply:

    twice in the past Microsoft tried to recruit the community manager of a GNU/Linux distribution (it’s in our IRC logs). This reminds us of the tactics Microsoft used against Borland, namely destroy the competition by buying it away or removing the key people

    You knew that but are trying to twist the article into something it’s not.

    Michael Reply:

    See how you make accusations you cannot support.

    I am twisting nothing. Roy is whining about something that is *not* a problem: companies looking to hire people and people accepting jobs from companies.

    The idea that *someone* on his IRC channel made some vague accusation is irrelevant. Curious, “twitter” if you are really Roy. After all, he said he would gladly respond to my posts – and then you started doing so.

    Not saying that is proof… just an odd coincidence.

  2. Michael Glasser said,

    August 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Gravatar

    A company actually had the audacity to offer a job to a person who they admire.

    Why is that wrong? And unless the person shares your hatred of the company, why shouldn’t they consider the offer? It is not selling out simply to work for a company you (and not they) loath.

    Jose_X Reply:

    >> A company actually had the audacity to offer a job to a person who they admire.

    Do you have evidence the company admires the person?

    I know that is a silly question (since you can simply assume they do or don’t based on your view of the company and be done with it), but if you are going to criticize Roy’s interpretation as that not being evidence, then perhaps you should be more careful as well about what statements you make.

    IMO, Microsoft is the antithesis of fair competition and open collaboration.

    Jose_X Reply:

    Roy, when you say “they sold out”, is that your way of saying that the person appears to have made a switch from helping to promote and support fair competition to fighting that in favor of very lopsided playing fields?

    Dr. Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    Yes, for self benefit (usually money).

    Michael Reply:

    So taking a job with having *a* goal of making money is what you mean by “selling out”.

    That is kinda funny. That means almost everyone who takes a job is “selling out”.

    Michael Reply:

    Jose_X: Unless there is reason to *doubt*, when a company offers a person a job it makes sense to assume they think they will benefit from that person’s work.

    Roy, however, does not think companies should seek people to employ and that if they do it is “selling out” for the person to accept a job. Well, he does when it comes to companies he loathes.

What Else is New


  1. Links 27/8/2014: GNU/Linux in Space, China, LinuxCon

    Links for the day



  2. FUD Against Google and FOSS Security Amid Microsoft Windows Security Blunders

    In the age of widespread fraud due to Microsoft Windows with its back doors there is an attempt to shift focus to already-fixed flaws/deficiencies in competitors of Microsoft



  3. Microsoft Spin Watch: IDG Turns to More Microsoft Propaganda, Hires Microsoft Boosters

    Media in Microsoft's pocket is telling Microsoft's lies and deceives the public for Microsoft's bottom line



  4. Microsoft's Massive Tax Evasion Becomes Better Known

    A new report about Microsoft's admission that it plays dirty tricks with tax (sometimes using moles in government) is increasing awareness of Microsoft's criminal aspects



  5. Links 25/8/2014: China's Linux Revolution Imminent

    Links for the day



  6. Links 24/8/2014: GNU/Linux Specialisation and Benchmarks

    Links for the day



  7. Links 23/8/2014: GNU/Linux Growth

    Links for the day



  8. Microsoft-Funded Attacks on Android Security and Patent/Copyright

    A look back at examples of people who smear Android and are receiving (or received) money from Microsoft



  9. Blowback in Chile and Munich After Microsoft Intervention

    Microsoft's attacks on the digital sovereignty of countries involves lobbying, corruption, an attack on standards (e.g. ODF), an attack on FOSS policies, and even an attack on accurate reporting (truth itself)



  10. The End of Microsoft is Nigh

    A look back at a tough year for Microsoft and a not-so-promising future



  11. Links 22/8/2014: Linux Foundation LFCS, LFCE

    Links for the day



  12. UPS Burned by Microsoft Windows, Gives Away Massive Number of Credit Card Details

    UPS is the latest victim of Microsoft's shoddy back door with software on top of it (Windows); attempts to blame FOSS for data compromise actually divert attention from the real culprit, which is proprietary software



  13. Microsoft's Funding of ALEC and Other Systemic Corruption

    Microsoft role in writing of laws by proxy, via groups such as ALEC



  14. Microsoft is Still Preying on British Taxpayers, Playing Politics

    Some news from the UK showing how Microsoft uses politics to extract money out of taxpayers, irrespective of their preferences



  15. Microsoft's Patent Troll Intellectual Ventures is Collapsing as 20% of Staff Laid Off

    More good news regarding the demise of patents as Microsoft's leading patent proxy is collapsing more rapidly than anyone ever imagined and software patents too are collectively doubted



  16. Links 21/8/2014: Conferences of Linux Foundation, Elephone Emerges

    Links for the day



  17. Links 20/8/2014: Linux Event, GNOME Milestone

    Links for the day



  18. Corruption Watch: Microsoft Lobbying Designed to Kill Chile's Free Software Policy and Promote Microsoft With Subsidies, More Dirty Tricks Emerge in Munich

    icrosoft is systematically attacking migrations to GNU, Linux and Free software, using dirty tricks, as always



  19. Vista 8 Such a Disaster That Even Microsoft Cannot Cope With It, Vapourware Tactics Start Early

    Microsoft's Windows-powered services are failing and Windows gets bricked by Microsoft patches, whereupon we are seeing yet more of Microsoft's vapourware tactics (focusing in imaginary, non-existent versions of Windows)



  20. On BlackBerry and Other Patent Trolls

    A roundup regarding patent trolls, starting with the bigger and latest joiner, BlackBerry's new patents apparatus



  21. Links 19/8/2014: Humble Jumbo Bundle 2 Betrayal, Mercedes-Benz Runs GNU/Linux

    Links for the day



  22. BlackBerry -- Like Microsoft Nokia -- Could be the Next Patent Proxy Troll

    BlackBerry is restructuring for patent assertion (i.e. trolling) in the wake of some alliances with Microsoft



  23. After Microsoft's Soft Bribe Some Non-Technical Deputy Does Not Like Free Software, Microsoft-Linked Media Responds to This Non-News by Making Bogus Claims of Munich Leaving GNU/Linux (Updated)

    The subversive forces that have secretly been attacking Munich over its migration to GNU/Linux (Microsoft press, Gartner, and even HP) are back to doing it while China and Russia follow Munich's lead



  24. Gates Foundation CFO Quits and Debate About Revolving Doors Recalled Amid Systematic and Shrewd Bribery of Public Officials

    More officials step out of the Gates Foundation and their destination is not known yet; Gates continues to corrupt the public sector with his money so as to increase personal gain at taxpayers' expense



  25. Links 19/8/2014: GNU/Linux Raves and Alternative to Proprietary Voice Chat

    Links for the day



  26. Links 18/8/2014: Linux 3.17 RC1, Escalation in Ferguson

    Links for the day



  27. Gartner Group Advocates Using Defective Software With Back Doors

    Despite strong evidence that Microsoft has been complicit in illegal surveillance, Gartner continues to recommend the use of Windows and other espionage-ready Microsoft software



  28. The Microsoft Patent Trolls: Android Extortion, Vringo Versus Google, and Intellectual Ventures

    Roundup of news about patent aggression by Microsoft and some of its proxies



  29. Links 16/8/2014: Microsoft Linux, US Government Turns to Free Software

    Links for the day



  30. Links 15/8/2014: Reiser4 in Headlines Again, GNOME and KDE Events Finish

    Links for the day


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts