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schestowitzRe: Updating parts 1 through 6> I see that parts 1 through 8 are complete:Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/06/fake-bargains/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Eric Lundgren Case and Similar High-Profile Plea ‘Bargains’ (Aaron Swartz and Marcus Hutchins) | TechrightsAug 11 04:06
schestowitz> It would be good to go back through parts 1 through 7 and add in theAug 11 04:06
schestowitz> links to parts 7 and 8.  So far just parts 1 through 6 are linked at theAug 11 04:06
schestowitz> head of each article.Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/07/26/story-of-eric-lundgren/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Legal Attacks on Eric Lundgren Demonstrate There’s No ‘New’ Microsoft Except a Super-Vicious, Law-Twisting Thug | TechrightsAug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/07/27/microsoft-windows-injustice/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows Puts Recyclers Like Eric Lundgren in Prison and Patients Six Feet Under the Ground | TechrightsAug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/03/microsoft-vs-heroes/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/reducing-microsoft-profits/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/righttorepair/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:06
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/05/satya-nadella-fleeing-lundgren/Aug 11 04:06
schestowitzThere are more parts on the way. We have not yet published the legal docs or showed the work he was doing. Better to add an index when it's all cimplete.Aug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2019/08/03/microsoft-vs-heroes/ )Aug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Being Microsoft, Bullying Everyone Who Reduces Microsoft’s Profits | TechrightsAug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft’s War on the Right to Repair (One’s Own Computers) Makes Lundgren an ‘Enemy’ to Microsoft | TechrightsAug 11 04:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Damage Control Mode: Satya Nadella Fleeing Lundgren After Realising What Microsoft Had Done | TechrightsAug 11 04:07
schestowitz> i suppose you could put this on tuxmachines if you dont want to put it on techrights. i think it makes a lot of sense to put it on techrights because its where part 1 of 2 is, and because it is about the code you uploaded to techrights, but do whatever you think is best.Aug 11 04:09
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:09
schestowitz> in the future, naturally, i would write code-related stuff for tuxmachines instead.Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz> feel free to strip out each instance of "#CODE" if you want, thats just a cue to format that part as code. you can also leave that in.Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz> attached as plaintext, the name language name "fig" (like figosdev) is all lowercase unless used to begin a sentence.Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz> Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz> Feel free to publish immediately, this week, or next weekend if that's better in your opinion.Aug 11 04:10
schestowitzI will publish today. I work 1-9am another 3 nights. So I can't publish at night.Aug 11 04:10
schestowitzforgot to add license again, sorry:Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz   license: creative commons cc0 1.0 (public domain)Aug 11 04:10
schestowitz    http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/Aug 11 04:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-creativecommons.org | Creative Commons — CC0 1.0 UniversalAug 11 04:10
schestowitzcc0 license on how to write fig articleAug 11 04:10
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9lkgStnftX9pqa0BWKAug 11 04:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 11 04:21
schestowitz"He was a user and a dealer. It is reasonable to assume that he was killed to protect his clients. Considering he was in federal custody during his murder, that is the first clue as to who some of his clients were. #corruption #epstien"Aug 11 04:21
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9lkigGjw7HosfMkxeKAug 11 04:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 11 04:21
schestowitz" Just to play devil's advocate (and I've never tried wsl, so I have no real world experience here): does wsl allow better integration than a traditional vm would? (I'm aware that wsl2 at least is at least technically a vm)"Aug 11 04:21
schestowitzWhat integration do today's VMs lack?Aug 11 04:21
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9lkmUNneRS1qu658LIAug 11 04:22
schestowitz"why GitHub? Don't they know?"Aug 11 04:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 11 04:22
schestowitzMaybe chosen before the takeoverAug 11 04:22
schestowitzout it, but the politicihttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15657792#56bd75409dd80137095b7a163ef10931Aug 11 05:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BeeFreeOS #MMXX Run Through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_AM1abnqE #gnu #linux Aug 11 05:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15657792#56bd75409dd80137095b7a163ef10931Aug 11 05:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | BeeFree OS MMXX Run Through - YouTubeAug 11 05:17
schestowitz"Microkernel?"Aug 11 05:18
schestowitz"(I don't do YouTube)"Aug 11 05:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15657267#04d6bc809de501373779047d7b62795eAug 11 05:18
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:18
schestowitzAug 11 05:18
schestowitzI like to learn new langs too, I can program in C, C++, Python, JavaScript, Java, PHP, Haskell, Pascal, Bash, also programmed a bit of assembly, studied lambda calculus a bit. Learning different paradigms like logic and functional teaches you a lot, as well as looking at languages from different perspectives - esolangs (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page).Aug 11 05:18
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post?Aug 11 05:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-esolangs.org | Esolang, the esoteric programming languages wikiAug 11 05:18
schestowitz"esolangs are cool-- ive tried to establish a category of languages inspired by esolangs, called "easylangs." one of the cool things about esolangs is theyre often simpler to create (less work, even if theyre obtuse to use) than may modern languages. by comparison, easylangs are easy to use and easy to make, due to focusing on simplicity. though challenging yourself is great, and esolangs are a challenge to use that will help you learn Aug 11 05:18
schestowitzmore, as you said."Aug 11 05:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15519966#22a488c09ddd013709537a163ef10931Aug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Shortly after #bookburning by #microsoft #drm Microsoft is attacking libraries too https://boingboing.net/2019/07/23/unclear-on-the-concept-3.htmlAug 11 05:19
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:19
schestowitzAug 11 05:19
schestowitzAvoid.Aug 11 05:19
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> boingboing.net | Linkedin to libraries: drop dead / Boing BoingAug 11 05:19
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:19
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schestowitzAvoid and Prosper.Aug 11 05:19
schestowitz'Aug 11 05:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15425452#a82fc7409d700137b1c50cc47a07853cAug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When #microsoft brands #torvalds a 'sexist" after Microsoft staff put the words "big boobs" in Torvalds' project, #linux Aug 11 05:19
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061a3a4700e1cb165460.jpgAug 11 05:19
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schestowitzfair enough, i think that helps a bitAug 11 05:19
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15640399#79d08d709d700137b18f0cc47a07853cAug 11 05:19
schestowitz"pid 1 is the loneliest process that youll ever do 2 just segfaults and then 1 says that you must reboot..."Aug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft Swapnil on the End Of Linux Journal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126744#comment-21299Aug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | The Bad News... | Tux MachinesAug 11 05:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15538627#1ded05b09d700137b19b0cc47a07853cAug 11 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: They should arrest #microsoft executives responsible for these lethal (many casualties) #nsa back doors, not people who merely exposed these back doors https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-26/cyber-crook-turned-global-hero-avoids-prison-in-malware-caseAug 11 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bloomberg.com | Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Aug 11 05:20
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:20
schestowitzAug 11 05:20
schestowitzi mean, they first said many years ago (more than a decade) that microsoft finally figured out that if you want the government on your side, they have to be coworkers. the doj stopped being serious when they hired david duke to campaign for bush jr during the 2000 election. everyone has <3 microsoft since then. and the gates fundation also works-- its money that gates can spend that microsoft cant. i mean its kind of a joke, everything is Aug 11 05:20
schestowitza pac and everybody has a pac these days. you can make more money running for president than actually fixing anything.Aug 11 05:20
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15621786#f48e2d109abe01378f950218b72fdf43Aug 11 05:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: " #Proprietarysoftware is the foundation of the digital colonialism; and Richard Stallman reasoned a “nonfree program is a yoke, an instrument of unjust power.”" https://southcoastherald.co.za/368922/opinion-railway-ether/Aug 11 05:29
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:29
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> southcoastherald.co.za | OPINION: From the Railway to the Ether | South Coast HeraldAug 11 05:29
schestowitzWas he ? With all the corporation intrusion on Linux, I guess he didn't see that coming.Aug 11 05:29
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:29
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:30
schestowitzAug 11 05:30
schestowitzThe original idea was for the FSF to deploy the hurd OS. The hurd was designed with users in control of virtually all system-level functions, all in user-space. Corporations would not have been impressed.Aug 11 05:30
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:30
schestowitz"Indeed, it was an amazing concept."Aug 11 05:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15644047#3c6c35b09c9c0137c9500218b72fdf43Aug 11 05:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Maybe the #linuxfoundation (revenue of ~$100,000,000 a year) can offer some funds to salvage #linuxjournal ? No fucking way! They already killed their own, LINUX DOT COMAug 11 05:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_aa5036c1a54232084f01.pngAug 11 05:30
schestowitz"hat's got some potential. Intel Inside? Designed for Windows? Here you go, Evil Inside http://173.18.119.140/photoalbum/chron/2019/20190809-linuxfoundation-certifiedformicrosoft/microsoftLinuxFoundationlogo600px.png"Aug 11 05:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://173.18.119.140/photoalbum/chron/2019/20190809-linuxfoundation-certifiedformicrosoft/microsoftLinuxFoundationlogo600px.png )Aug 11 05:30
schestowitzAH, cool one, will 'steal' :-)Aug 11 05:31
schestowitzBTW, on iran (above)Aug 11 06:43
schestowitzmy general position is that war would be horrendous and must be avoidedAug 11 06:43
schestowitzAt the same time, highlighting human rights abuses in Iran - as in any country - is also importantAug 11 06:44
schestowitzseems they don't want sites to broadcast these abuses, fearing it could manufacture consent for warAug 11 06:44
schestowitz traffic level for the past 24 hours: Aug 11 06:44
schestowitzUnique VisitorsAug 11 06:44
schestowitz20,825Aug 11 06:44
schestowitzTotal RequestsAug 11 06:44
schestowitz896,183Aug 11 06:44
schestowitzPercent CachedAug 11 06:44
schestowitz89.35%Aug 11 06:44
schestowitzTotal Data ServedAug 11 06:44
schestowitz40 GBAug 11 06:44
schestowitzData CachedAug 11 06:45
schestowitz(I won't name the site)Aug 11 06:45
schestowitziAug 11 06:57
schestowitzhttps://www.whyislam.org/Aug 11 06:57
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1006901839289999360?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1006901839289999360:0:0:0:1006943017553928192Aug 11 06:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.whyislam.org | 877-WHY-ISLAM — You Deserve to Know - Your #1 source of information on Islam and Muslims in North AmericaAug 11 06:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Martin Ravallion: “We have to get rid of the idea that wanting to reduce inequality makes you a communist”Aug 11 06:57
schestowitz"Aug 11 06:57
schestowitziAug 11 06:57
schestowitzhttps://www.whyislam.org/Aug 11 06:57
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schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1006598556051349504?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1006598556051349504:0:0:0:1006707050953252864Aug 11 06:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | [Note: I actually get told off for raising issues like the ones mentioned by Debian's Andy Simpkins. Apparently you get in more trouble for caring about #law compliance than for breaking the law or going along with it.]Aug 11 06:57
schestowitz"👍 x 💯!!!"Aug 11 06:57
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1006476459643068416?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1006476459643068416:0:0:0:1006485069592420352Aug 11 06:59
schestowitz"LOL, ----UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change ----"Aug 11 06:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | We’re Eating This Planet to DeathAug 11 06:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15643784#7a4953f09de70137b1c10cc47a07853cAug 11 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Why Unmoderated Online Forums Always Degenerate Into Fascism" Apparently some people in the #freesw community don't believe in #freespeech and equate that, conveniently, with "fascism"Aug 11 07:07
schestowitz"im still trying to make heads or tails of that article. this comment (because the community did a good job speaking out against that article) was a nice summary: I think the main reason's fairly simple; unmoderated forums by definition don't deny access to anyone, and so they're inevitably going to attract people who are denied access everywhere else. Since proponents of far right views are generally discouraged on mainstream forums, Aug 11 07:08
schestowitzthey're the ones who will be drawn to unmoderated ones. others noted points like "What I think that it misses is that some people like to go places where they can argue with people that they disagree with, Such people don't like to live in a thought bubble.""Aug 11 07:08
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:08
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schestowitzim still trying to make heads or tails of that article. this comment (because the community did a good job speaking out against that article) was a nice summary: I think the main reason's fairly simple; unmoderated forums by definition don't deny access to anyone, and so they're inevitably going to attract people who are denied access everywhere else. Since proponents of far right views are generally discouraged on mainstream forums, they'Aug 11 07:08
schestowitzre the ones who will be drawn to unmoderated ones. others noted points like "What I think that it misses is that some people like to go places where they can argue with people that they disagree with, Such people don't like to live in a thought bubble."Aug 11 07:08
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15649412#da2db1709d460137b1bf0cc47a07853cAug 11 07:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #freesw is dangerous because you can download malicious files and then choose to executive these malicious file, tell us software vendors that ship #proprietarysoftware with #nsa back doors in it What is more severe?Aug 11 07:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e53863ed7294db1774d1.jpgAug 11 07:08
schestowitz"What is more severe? yes theyre very silly, but this is still tu quoque https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tu_quoque'Aug 11 07:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wiktionary.org | tu quoque - WiktionaryAug 11 07:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15544121#fd39ff209d0d01374afc0ad695c86addAug 11 07:09
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:09
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schestowitzI am now convinced you have a sacred skill to present anything as a scary evil attack on humanity. :-) I wonder whether there is possibly anything facebook or google or apple could do to make you say "mmh that's good, they are actually doing this right". ;-)Aug 11 07:09
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #OpenStreetMap + #surveillancecapitalism = https://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-pairs-its-map-with-ai-service-openstreetmap-project/Aug 11 07:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.zdnet.com | Facebook pairs its Map With AI service OpenStreetMap project | ZDNetAug 11 07:09
schestowitzI sometimes do commend them for particular thingsAug 11 07:09
schestowitzFacebook "safety checks" are evil for a lot of reasons I named beforeAug 11 07:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15650518#b6b5d6909d0901373202005056264835Aug 11 07:10
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:10
schestowitzAug 11 07:10
schestowitzTechnically if they're set to boot of a clean image, even MS windows systems can remain virus free.Aug 11 07:10
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Unless they use #chromebooks or similar, they will need to shut down (or flush out) the staff after each use.Aug 11 07:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_1a2928101af7a6214fb2.jpgAug 11 07:10
schestowitzand without personal data :-)Aug 11 07:10
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:11
schestowitzWindows is malware, so how do you boot Windows without malware?Aug 11 07:11
schestowitz Ray BernacheAug 11 07:11
schestowitzRay Bernache - about 7 hours ago Aug 11 07:11
schestowitz@David touchè ;)Aug 11 07:11
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:11
schestowitzI mean, what's the point booting an image that's a template all the time?Aug 11 07:11
schestowitzRegarding the 'cloud', the virus can be persistent at that endAug 11 07:12
schestowitzxxxx> Aug 11 07:22
schestowitzu say send links to that person alone?  i think jake is a good guy.  i didnt follow the drama about him closely.  i saved some links though (in case u dont have these)  https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor   https://github.com/cjdelisle/JakeGateAug 11 07:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor: An investigation into Jacob Appelbaum leaving the Tor ProjectAug 11 07:22
schestowitz[07:16] <schestowitz> they did a whole WEB SITE on itAug 11 07:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - cjdelisle/JakeGate: A (hopefully) unbiased timeline of events related to accusations against Jacob AppelbaumAug 11 07:22
schestowitz[07:16] <schestowitz> Microsoft-centric site, I heardAug 11 07:22
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> "Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> Jake plunged into a loud, tearful "let's put our differences aside." Those "differences" being him ripping off our research in 2007. 3/nAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/maradydd/status/739797600111468544Aug 11 07:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@maradydd: Jake plunged into a loud, tearful "let's put our differences aside." Those "differences" being him ripping off our research in 2007. 3/nAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> "Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> LOLAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> How does that relate to sex?Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> stupid "tweets" as sources nowAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> some people spread malicious lies about me in USENET and tweetsAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:17] <schestowitz> so I suppose one could assemble these into a Microsoft ShitHub page, tooAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:18] <schestowitz> violetblue 11:08pm june 5Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:18] <schestowitz> Even replies to "tweets" as "sources"Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:18] <schestowitz> http://jacobappelbaum.netAug 11 07:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jacobappelbaum.net | Jacob AppelbaumAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:19] <schestowitz> they made a twttter account Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:19] <schestowitz> "victimsofjake"Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:19] <schestowitz> LOLAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:19] <schestowitz> no bias thereAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:20] <schestowitz> "It is very important that the information in this repository is accurate and fair to all involved. If you feel that any of the information is in any way inaccurate, misrepresented or miscategorized, you must open an issue on the Github bug tracker and explain your reasoning. Private or anonymous messages will be ignored and private threats or harassment may be publicized if they are deemed newsworthy."Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:20] <schestowitz> Bloody hellAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:20] <schestowitz> so it started from tweetsAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:20] <schestowitz> then anonymous medium postsAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:20] <schestowitz> then thisAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:21] <schestowitz> side note:Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:21] <schestowitz> most of these are anonsAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:21] <schestowitz> the ones I know I have a negative opinion on, even prior to thisAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> "Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> PlagiarismAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> @ackflags He stole research from many of my friendsAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> @maradydd Those "differences" being him ripping off our research in 2007Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> "Aug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> Tweets as sourcesAug 11 07:23
schestowitz[07:22] <schestowitz> quinnorton and violetblue notablyAug 11 07:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15574930#6f92269096160137e58a0cc47a07853cAug 11 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #DNS over HTTPS in a snap https://www.whizzy.org/2019/07/dns-over-https-in-a-snap/ site that talks about #privacy while including in all pages of the site the Web's worst malware attacks in #javascript form?Aug 11 07:24
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.whizzy.org | DNS over HTTPS in a snap – whizzy.orgAug 11 07:24
schestowitzAug 11 07:24
schestowitzsoftware minimalism is key to #security. yes, though minimalism is relative.Aug 11 07:24
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:24
schestowitz"software minimalism is key to #security. yes, though minimalism is relative. there are no standards, the rule is "less is more" (less crap, greater value.)'Aug 11 07:24
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:24
schestowitzAug 11 07:24
schestowitzsoftware minimalism is key to #security. yes, though minimalism is relative. there are no standards, the rule is less crap, greater value. crap is relative as well.Aug 11 07:24
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15572522#90dcf49095fd0137ad9452540039b762Aug 11 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. Senate Targets Saudi Nuclear Technology https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/07/30/us-senate-targets-saudi-nuclear-technology-senate-van-hollen-lindsey-graham/ insane thinking...Aug 11 07:24
schestowitz"As we know from the "justice" system, terrorism and Yemen, the S. family is famous for its moderation, pacifism and compassion ;)"Aug 11 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> foreignpolicy.com | U.S. Senate Targets Saudi Nuclear Technology – Foreign PolicyAug 11 07:24
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:25
schestowitzAug 11 07:25
schestowitzThe Senate may discuss, but what sayeth Cesar (and the next Cesar)? Trump administration’s close relationship with the wealthy Gulf nation. And Thatcher, the Tories, the Windsors, Dutch Royals, and the Bush's and how many, many more?Aug 11 07:25
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15572475#3b7cd9e095e20137e5a60cc47a07853cAug 11 07:25
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:25
schestowitzAug 11 07:25
schestowitzsomeone PLEASE indict the criminally ignorant cunts responsible for this trend already.Aug 11 07:25
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: iophk: as planes become networked, attacks will no longer require physical access, such a thing has happened in cars. https://www.apnews.com/6219f26c3ea145b6b29b5e69115504a9Aug 11 07:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.apnews.com | US issues hacking security alert for small planesAug 11 07:25
schestowitz""Aug 11 07:25
schestowitz"someone PLEASE indict the criminally ignorant cunts responsible for this trend already. stop putting everything on the fucking network. (i know, theyre not on the network yet. keep it that way.)"Aug 11 07:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15572838#4e63be5095e101376ad40cc47a07853cAug 11 07:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mauritanian blogger freed after being held for nearly six years https://rsf.org/en/news/mauritanian-blogger-freed-after-being-held-nearly-six-years "denying him access to his family and lawyers."Aug 11 07:26
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rsf.org | Mauritanian blogger freed after being held for nearly six years | RSFAug 11 07:26
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schestowitz¡Olé!Aug 11 07:26
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schestowitz[07:27] <MrGreenFriend> huh, the github link i posted, is on Jakes side, it links to this:    https://contraspin.co.nz/the-weaponising-of-social-part-3-the-resurrection-of-ioerror/Aug 11 07:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-contraspin.co.nz | The Weaponising Of Social Part 3: The Resurrection Of IOError | ContraSpinAug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:27] <schestowitz> Oh, I see...Aug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:28] <schestowitz> Yes, I did get that vibeAug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:28] <schestowitz> butAug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:28] <schestowitz> it still isn't helpfulAug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:28] <schestowitz> they amplify the smearAug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:28] <schestowitz> and collate themAug 11 07:35
schestowitz[07:28] <schestowitz> I need to watch my own back too in case all the nazis and trump proponents try to make up some narrativeAug 11 07:35
schestowitzhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/08/05/013251Aug 11 07:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Follow-up Interview with E-Waste Recycler Eric Lundgren - SoylentNewsAug 11 07:40
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzNo good deed shall go unpunished, especially if it hurts profit.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzThis world be damned, we'll pollute it if there's a coin to be made outta this.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzReply to ThisAug 11 07:41
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 4, Insightful)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzby bobthecimmerian (6834) on Monday August 05, @12:13PM (#875884)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzThe second lesson is that we the free software community need to do a better job making free operating systems user-friendly and also a better job making welcoming communities and educating users. If this guy could have slapped Debian/Ubuntu/Arch/Fedora/SUSE/FreeBSD/whatever on the refurbished machines and gotten recipients to use it, the problem never would have happened.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzHe got burned by Microsoft because either he refused to consider alternatives or the people getting his refurbished machines did, or both.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:41
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Monday August 05, @12:42PM (#875902)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzThe second lesson is that we the free software community need to do a better job making free operating systems user-friendly and also a better job making welcoming communities and educating users. If this guy could have slapped Debian/Ubuntu/Arch/Fedora/SUSE/FreeBSD/whatever on the refurbished machines and gotten recipients to use it, the problem never would have happened.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzThose refurbished computes should go to the less fortunate people.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzCasting on them a "Debian/Ubuntu/Arch/Fedora/SUSE/FreeBSD/whatever" running systemd or an unreliable display driver is adding to their misfortune.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:41
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 4, Informative)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzby Anonymous Coward on Monday August 05, @01:10PM (#875916)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzLinux mint works fine these days.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:41
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzby bobthecimmerian (6834) on Monday August 05, @04:08PM (#876054)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzI've never had a problem with systemd on work servers or on my three Linux boxes at home. But I get your general point. That's why I added my disclaimers and didn't say, without qualifiers, "He should have used ____" where ____ is replaced by Debian or FreeBSD or similar.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:41
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: -1, Flamebait)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzby Anonymous Coward on Monday August 05, @05:25PM (#876090)Aug 11 07:41
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:41
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzBefore people get too upset about this, they may want to read this [theverge.com]. It paints very different picture than the rather ranty Techrights coverage.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzI have no skin in the game and don't care about Microsoft one way or the other, but the guy certainly seems to be pretty dubious. He was prosecuted for counterfeiting Windows CDs in China, with his own emails as evidence. He can claim he was doing it to save baby fur seals or whatever he wants on Techrights, but it doesn't change the fact that he was counterfeiting Windows CDs in China.Aug 11 07:41
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzhttps://www.theverge.com/2018/4/27/17293650/microsoft-recycler-jail-sentence-windows-software-counterfeiting-responseAug 11 07:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft responds to e-waste recycler’s jail sentence: ‘he was counterfeiting Windows software’ - The VergeAug 11 07:41
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:41
schestowitzI think this comment to that article explained it most clearly, at least for me (assuming it is accurate):Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzIt’s very simple. Microsoft does NOT distribute the software for free to refurbishes. Their licensing requires that the refurbisher must have the original restore CD in order to refurbish the computer, and if they do not have it they must purchase a $25 refurbished license that allows them to freshly install a copy of windows. It also comes with a new certificate of authenticity. This has been their policy for many years (since at least Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz2011 when they seem to have instituted this licensing program). The reason why this guy was trying to counterfeit Dell restore disks was because Microsoft’s rules allow you to use the original license key if the original restore disk is in your possession. So that’s why he went through all the trouble of trying to fake the discs down to building molds to mimic genuine Dell CDs.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzHe’s a straight up counterfeiter.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzA commentator upstream referenced two other emails MS posted in its response ( https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the-facts-about-a-recent-counterfeiting-case-brought-by-the-u-s-government/ [microsoft.com] ) which I think that particular commenter had in mind:Aug 11 07:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blogs.microsoft.com | The facts about a recent counterfeiting case brought by the U.S. government - Microsoft on the IssuesAug 11 07:42
schestowitzhttps://blogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/Email_image3.png [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzhttps://blogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/Email_image5.png [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzAnd here is where those emails came from: https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/2LUNDGREN6.pdf [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzThe email on page 26 looks particularly bad, reading in part: "I knew that would eventually come in... Customs can't tell the difference and therefore is not legally allowed to hold them. hehe"Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzEmail at page 58, in part: I have worked into my total "AirFreight" with parcel post which si not checked by Customs. Customs views this a waste of time to check ... Their ar tricks for bypassing customs with container's <L but currently this is how I get you these products without invoices past customs.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzEmail at page 61, in part: As for SP3, The only unit that you got me was a burnt copy ... We need the actual OEM unit and tow or three of them... Can you find &send over to the same address in China?Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzAnyway, I'm glad I don't use MS -- the licensing seems very complicated. At the same time, it does appear that Eric was working very hard to create exact, as in down to nearly invisible codes molded into the rim of cds, copies. That does sound like counterfeiting. If all he wanted to do was help out refurbishers, he could have just burned discs and marked them with a sharpie. No reason to go to all the effort to make extremely exact Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzcopied.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:42
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Monday August 05, @04:42PM (#876074)Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzIt’s very simple. Microsoft does NOT distribute the software for free to refurbishes.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzBut does distribute freely the recovery ISO-es from their own site, only it forbids the refurbishers to use it.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzBecause, you see, to have a refurbisher saving a computer from becoming ewaste is secondary to MS profit. Can I rationally see it any other way?Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzThat seems a reasonable interpretation to me and at the same time, seems sort of orthogonal to what Eric and Bob were doing which was trying to undercut MS by counterfeiting Dell recover discs. Eric and Bob's business model relied on MS' business model (which charged $25 for recover discs) in order to sell the counterfeit Dell recover discs at $4. Without MS, Eric and Bob's discs would be worthless and thus, they were playing in the same Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzballpark.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzI suspect the whole ewaste argument came up as an afterthought when the hammer came down, but to be clear, I have no evidence to back up that suspicion.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:42
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Monday August 05, @10:12PM (#876204)Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzWithout MS, Eric and Bob's discs would be worthless and thus, they were playing in the same ballpark.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzSo, we've established both are prostitutes and we are haggling which one provides a net to society, eh?Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzIn my books:Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz1. making a second-hand computer more accessible to the unlucky by lowering the price by $21 is still a good deed. And a refurbisher brings net benefit to society: collects, repairs and distributes second-hand computers at a lower total cost than all the buyers doing it one computer at a time;Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz2. the actions of MS result in less second-hand computers being reused and contributing to waste. And MS is doing this exclusively for the bottom line.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzSo, a prostitute as Eric may be, was I wrong in my original comment?Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:42
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 05, @11:06PM (#876228)Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzThe problem here is simply that prostitution is illegal, he got busted, and he's whining. Should prostitution of the type he performed be legalized? Probably yeah, but all in all, if you consider how draconian our legal system is, he got through it relatively well. If you look at the appellate court decision, the standard sentencing range for him would have been 37 to 46 months. For reasons not explained, he was sentenced to 15 months, Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzsubstantially below the standard range.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitzAnyway, perhaps when he gets out and comes up with some other scheme, he'll do some research into GPG. I even saw a gmail address in the affidavit regarding emails. Not smart.Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzThe problem here is simply that prostitution is illegal, he got busted, and he's whining.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzWhen 'prostitution' == 'actions for the sake of money', I gotta say it's not illegal, otherwise MS would be in very hot waters.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzAnd I have no problem with him whinging, unfair is unfair even when is legal.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzAnyway, perhaps when he gets out and comes up with some other scheme, he'll do some research into GPG. I even saw a gmail address in the affidavit regarding emails. Not smart.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzI was hoping he'll learn how to recycle those computers by installing a Linux. That would be ideal, but any solution that reduces waste and increases reusing is a good thing for me.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:43
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 05, @11:44PM (#876235)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzIf he really wanted to focus on ewaste recycling, and if he really wanted to benefit low income people, he would give free classes at the Goodwill 1x per month on the topic: "With linux you can do most of what you can do on Windows, but for free on cheap hardware. It's easy!"Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzAside from impoverished gamers, people really could get by on linux just fine. They don't know it though.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:43
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 06, @12:18AM (#876242)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzAside from impoverished gamers, people really could get by on linux just fine. They don't know it though.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzThere is a learning curve to climb, though. Other desktop UI, maybe an occasional WiFi network that stops without explanation (to the uninitiated), how to exchange Word documents that look the same when opened in MSWord on a Windows missing the Liberation Sans font.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzTrue, it's not impossible, but if you work two jobs in gig-economy just to stay afloat, the amount of energy you can dedicate to learning is very low.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz---Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzNow, mate, my bottom line is:Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz1. as a result of their action, MS didn't earn a cent but the society experienced a lossAug 11 07:43
schestowitz2. as imperfect human being as Eric may be, it is preferable for the society to have someone who carries the work of computer recycling than to have him imprisoned (i.e. don't let perfect be the enemy of good, you may end with nothing better and waiting forever for a perfection that never comes).Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzFinally, if I was the judge, I would have sentenced him to install Linux on the recycled computers for the period of his sentence; be it only for the sake of seeing the face of the MS lawyers at the moment of reading the sentence. What do you reckon, would MS have appealed?Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz"MS' lawyers would have insisted that he only install gentoo, from source."Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzI wasn't able to use it (no burner) so I used my stand alone OEM copy of windows 10 pro on a laptop with a bad install. Crossing my fingers I'd be able to use the laptop's license key with my media. Apparently you also need a special burning tool for usb drives and it only runs on windows. (I'm sure i could have figured it out but I couldn't find any explanation why this tool is special.. anywhere)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzWell somehow it knew the laptop's key and worked flawlessly without asking me any questions.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:43
schestowitzRe:Recently had windows emergency (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzby ElizabethGreene (6748) on Tuesday August 06, @07:47PM (#876727)Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzApparently you also need a special burning tool for usb drives and it only runs on windows.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzIt's not that you need a special tool, but they give you one for free.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitzhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=56485 [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.microsoft.com | Download Windows USB/DVD Download Tool from Official Microsoft Download CenterAug 11 07:43
schestowitzYou can still use something like Rufus https://rufus.ie/ [rufus.ie] if you want a non-microsoft tool on Windows. I honestly don't know how to do it on Linux. I use dd for Linux .isos, but I don't know if it would work for a Windows .iso.Aug 11 07:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rufus.ie | RufusAug 11 07:43
schestowitzTrivia: The USB download tool was open source before Microsoft put codeplex out to pasture. Someone (I guess I'll volunteer) needs to go see if that can be forklifted over to GitHub.Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:43
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:45
schestowitz(I work for Microsoft and as such my opinion is invalid.)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzThis wasn't a good deed, it's a guy making visually high quality counterfeits so he can sell them. That is wrong, regardless of what is on the disks. The "I'm recycling!" bit of this is revisionist history to get sympathy from people who won't read below the fold.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:45
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 3, Interesting)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Monday August 05, @04:38PM (#876071)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzThis wasn't a good deed, it's a guy making visually high quality counterfeits so he can sell them.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzMedia with an information downloadable for free from the MS site [microsoft.com], right?Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzSo, his only offense was "making visually high quality counterfeits" and saving MS bandwidth, ain't it?Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzOr was the mistake that he didn't want to pay a new license but use the original one printed on the OEM label still stuck on the refurbished computer?Aug 11 07:45
schestowitz'Cause that's what MS asked the judge to consider, a lost profit from not selling new "refurbisher licenses", when the original ones (the doctrine of first sale) were perfectly valid and legit. So please mr judge, sir, lock him up, we don't care about those computers becoming ewaste, our profit must not suffer.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzSo which of the two, Elizabeth?Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:45
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 4, Informative)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 05, @06:01PM (#876105)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzShe makes a good point, don't harsh on her like that. MS' licensing practices suck to be sure and the rules about who can and who cannot use the downloaded ISO free are completely arbitrary, but if MS wants to be that way it can.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzAs for first sale doctrine, surely that applies when you actually have the thing first sold. If I buy a book, lose the last chapter somehow, and sell the book, the next owner can't go down to a bookstore and photocopy the last chapter, reinsert into the book, and then sell it again. You sell what'cha got. With these computers, the original restore discs that were first sold with the machines are gone for whatever reason. When he went to Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzChina and made exacting duplicates, he was trying to help people get something they never bought.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzSecondly, I would guess that in the wholesale market for refurbishers, the lack of a restore disc and the $25 hit that entails would be well known and that computers without restore discs cost less. By counterfeiting restore discs, he's hurting linux users by artificially increasing the public retail value of these old computers. A person like me would actually prefer one that has no MS license because presumably, I should get at least a Aug 11 07:45
schestowitz$25 break on the hardware.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:45
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 4, Insightful)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzby sjames (2882) on Monday August 05, @07:52PM (#876154) JournalAug 11 07:45
schestowitzExcept what they bought included the original license. The same MAY actually apply to that damaged book as well. Perhaps it's time to revisit the whole wave/particle duality that publishers want us to believe. It's either a physical medium OR it's a license. No more picking whichever one brings in the most money on a per-incident basis.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:45
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 05, @08:48PM (#876181)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzIf it is a physical product then the answer is easy: the discs are lost and Eric was counterfeiting.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzIf it is a license, then we need to know what the license says about transferability. It appears that there is a license that follows the physical discs as opposed to the purchaser, so that is at least somewhat lenient -- MS could if it wanted to, make the license follow a person/computer combo if it wanted to be the most draconian.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzAnyway, the issues people have is that MS is greedy. That's a surprise. /s The problem in this case is that Eric and his partner were looking to profit from MS' greed through counterfeiting Dell discs. That's not so laudable and contributes nothing to the world at all. In contrast, look at all the people who have worked on free software over the years -- they're heros for doing it and have made the world a better place.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:45
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzby sjames (2882) on Monday August 05, @11:05PM (#876227) JournalAug 11 07:45
schestowitzI agree that Free Software and the people working on it are making the world a better place.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitz$4 is not actually a huge ask for saving the trouble of downloading, burning, and labeling a disk. It seems the profit is coming from actual work done rather than from unjust copying. Back when burners were less common and most people were stuck with dial-up, that was about the going rate for a Linux CD and most considered it fair enough.Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:45
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 05, @11:55PM (#876237)Aug 11 07:45
schestowitzIt does seem to be a lot of effort for a low margin product, but Eric's situation is arguably different than burning and mailing a linux distro in two ways:Aug 11 07:45
schestowitz1: He didn't do the work, he contracted the work to Chinese (likely near-slave labor) companies. His job was essentially quality control and arranging bulk shipping.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitz2: A linux distro comes with a license that expressly permits -- perhaps even encourages -- people to share the work. MS' products aren't distributed that way.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:46
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzby sjames (2882) on Tuesday August 06, @12:23AM (#876245) JournalAug 11 07:46
schestowitzMost of the Linux CDs were contracted out for production as well. Very few were some guy in his basement (or an office) burning disks all day.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzMS has the same damned ISO on their site free to download. Their license enforcement is in entering the license key when you boot the disk. Eric made no effort to alter that enforcement.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzThis is more like the guy offering free water suing the guy that sets up next to him offering paper cups for $0.05Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:46
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Monday August 05, @09:51PM (#876198)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzAs for first sale doctrine, surely that applies when you actually have the thing first sold. If I buy a book, lose the last chapter somehow, and sell the book, the next owner can't go down to a bookstore and photocopy the last chapter, reinsert into the book, and then sell it again.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzHang on a minute. The publisher allows downloading the last chapter for anyone to print, except not for second-hand book sellers, for which entire books are sold.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzYes, legally the publisher is entitled to do so, but.. this doesn't mean a book without that chapter is not trashed if the book seller doesn't want to pay?Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:46
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 06, @12:02AM (#876238)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzThe double negative in the last sentence makes it hard to understand, but I'm thinking you are saying that without the last chapter, the book would be trashed because it couldn't be sold.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzAnyway, it appears that a consumer can download an ISO and install windows him/herself. A refurbisher without the original disc, must pay $25 for a new one so the refurbisher can install Windows. What is stopping a refurbisher with a machine that came without discs, from saying to customers: here's a computer with windows installed for $185. If you buy it with a blank HD and download and install windows yourself, you can have the machine Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzfor $150 (I built in $10 for the time required to install Windows).Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzSo back to your book analogy, the book with the chapter torn out could be sold. A bookseller might sell a complete non-damaged version for $3, but also put out the damaged one and say "this one is $2 but you have to go [here] and download the last chapter. It's stupid but I'm not allowed." What the book seller can't do, is download and print the last chapter and essentially charge $1 for the service by gluing it back into the binding of Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzthe damaged book.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzIs that stupid? yeah. But such is the law.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:46
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 06, @12:38AM (#876247)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzThe double negative in the last sentence makes it hard to understand, but I'm thinking you are saying that without the last chapter, the book would be trashed because it couldn't be sold.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzYes, posting before morning coffee tends to have this effect.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzA refurbisher without the original disc, must pay $25 for a new one so the refurbisher can install Windows. What is stopping a refurbisher with a machine that came without discs, from saying to customers: here's a computer with windows installed for $185. If you buy it with a blank HD and download and install windows yourself, you can have the machine for $150 (I built in $10 for the time required to install Windows).Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzNothing stops him doing so, but delivering a machine that:Aug 11 07:46
schestowitz1. has a blank HD and has not been tested doesn't seem in line with "selling a refurbished but working computer". If you test it installing form a recovery disk only to wipe the HD clean afterwards... what's the point?Aug 11 07:46
schestowitz2. as a buyer, when your money and available time is tight, you may postpone indefinitely buying a tool which can help you get out the shit (sending job applications left and right), because you can't afford $35 and the time to get that ISO from MS and burn it on a computer you can't use because, well, has a clean HD**Aug 11 07:46
schestowitz** I had a couple of hardship periods when $120 meant my food for 2 weeks - didn't do my heath any service eating that cheap shit, but I wasn't willing to waste my time I dedicated to looking for a job in software to get a "shelf stacking" type of job, I simply couldn't afford the time/energy budget to do it. Fortunately, I didn't miss a computer in those periods and didn't need to rely on social security.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:46
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 06, @03:00AM (#876298)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzI went through a time right out of school where I was couch surfing and eating wild blackberries because that is all I could afford. I do know what it is like to be poor even if I'm comfortable now. As I mentioned elsewhere, he'd be doing poor people a true favor by demoing how they can write resumes on linux just fine, plus check their facebook and twitter. It could even serve as gateway for some users toward server admin type careers. Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzHe didn't do that though -- he just counterfeited discs for personal profit.Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:46
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:46
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 06, @03:52AM (#876315)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzhe just counterfeited discs for personal profit.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzI get that he was to generate income from that, yes. I admit he could turn a profit, yes.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzDo you care to demonstrate he intended to do this purely for personal profit reasons? (many intention are possible, including getting funds to support his recycling operations).Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzI love better these guys [computerbank.org.au]: based on volunteering, selling second-hands with Ubuntu installed. I donated twice when I refreshed my computers, I even pre-installed Ubuntu myself on the donated computers.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzHowever, I'm not gonna dismiss Eric's actions as useless only because he chose to do worse then computerbank guys; and my opinion is based on the ground that stopping him is a loss for the society (less computers being reused, less people benefiting from a computer), with nobody being better.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:47
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzby ElizabethGreene (6748) on Tuesday August 06, @03:21AM (#876305)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzMedia with an information downloadable for free from the MS site [microsoft.com], right?Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzSo, his only offense was "making visually high quality counterfeits" and saving MS bandwidth, ain't it?Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzNo, his crime was making discs containing cracked versions of Windows and selling them as legitimate Dell OEM media. It violated Microsoft's copyright, Microsoft and Dell's Trademarks, country of origin labeling laws, and customs declaration laws.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitz.. and again, you're not talking about small change here. The government documented $70,000 in wire transfers for these shipments.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzI personally disagreed with my company's former stance of not making Windows available for download. You couldn't download XP or Win7 when this case was brought. That said, I cannot in my free-software-loving heart defend someone that selling disks of cracked software that overtly tries to deceive consumers. It's wrong.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzreference: https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/2LUNDGREN6.pdf [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:47
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 06, @03:34AM (#876307)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzNo, his crime was making discs containing cracked versions of Windows and selling them as legitimate Dell OEM media. It violated Microsoft's copyright, Microsoft and Dell's Trademarks, country of origin labeling laws, and customs declaration laws.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzIllegal, yes.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzDid his action cause any damage to someone?Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:47
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzby ElizabethGreene (6748) on Tuesday August 06, @06:45PM (#876684)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzIf you ignore the monetary damage to Microsoft (Refurb licenses not sold).Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzIf you ignore the cost to Dell (Phone support: "I tried to use my restore CD and the NIC driver wasn't installed")Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzIf you ignore the possibility that the disc contains malware.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzThen you still had damage to the end consumer when a Windows update un-cracks the distribution and the user gets the "Your software is not genuine" warning.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzThis was XP, and the Windows Genuine Advantage thing was a thing.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:47
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 3, Informative)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 06, @10:48PM (#876791)Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzBeth, you are arguing in bad faith only to paint him as "Oh, the Piiiiraaate, he solds cracked copies of Window".Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzYou ignore the restore CD ISO was available for download, so that anyone having a secondhand computer with the original OEM license still available, could legalaly:Aug 11 07:47
schestowitz1. download the restore ISO and burn on a CDAug 11 07:47
schestowitz2. restore the systemAug 11 07:47
schestowitz3. input the original OEM licenseAug 11 07:47
schestowitzand end with legal functional second hand computer.Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzWhat he has done was to use the advantages of mass production to make step 1 cheaper and less wasteful (in terms of time and bandwidth).Aug 11 07:47
schestowitz> If you ignore the monetary damage to Microsoft (Refurb licenses not sold).Aug 11 07:47
schestowitzUnlikely that they would have been ever purchased, with an ISO available for download.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzIn this case, the 'refurbisher license ' is MS way to create an artificial scarcity without delivering any advantage to the eventual purchaser.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitz> If you ignore the cost to Dell (Phone support: "I tried to use my restore CD and the NIC driver wasn't installed")Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzUnlikely that would have happened, refurbishing a computer does imply testing it as working. The Recover CD is for situation post-sale.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzBesides we are talking about ]second hand computers, I doubt Dell would offer warranties for equipment older than 1 year, so cal into Dell support is unlikely.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitz> If you ignore the possibility that the disc contains malware.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzOh, come on now. An exact copy of the original Dell Restore CD, right?Aug 11 07:48
schestowitz> Then you still had damage to the end consumer when a Windows update un-cracks the distribution and the user gets the "Your software is not genuine" warning.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzBS - the restore only installs the system, the original OEM license is either accepted by MS after restore (and he can sell a working second-hand computer) or is not (and he can't sell it other than as ewaste).Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:48
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzby ElizabethGreene (6748) on Wednesday August 07, @02:37PM (#877081)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzI can't tell if you are ignorant of the evidence in this case or just trolling.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzThe government's evidence from the case is here: https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/2LUNDGREN6.pdf [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzIf you don't want it from a microsoft blog then you can create a Pacer account and download it from the court directly.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzThere are plenty of cases to rail against where the court gets things wrong, but do you really want to plant a flag on some back-alley shyster selling cracked copies of Windows and trying to pass them off as the real thing?Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:48
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzby darkfeline (1030) on Tuesday August 06, @03:52AM (#876316) HomepageAug 11 07:48
schestowitzJust because you can download it does not mean you can distribute it, and it definitely does not mean you can distribute it commercially and make a profit.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitz--Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzJoin the SDF Public Access UNIX System today!Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:48
schestowitzRe:No good deed shall go unpunished (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzby c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 06, @04:00AM (#876319)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzJust because you can download it does not mean you can distribute it, and it definitely does not mean you can distribute it commerciallyAug 11 07:48
schestowitzIt's illegal, yes. Now, spell the harm he caused by doing it.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitz'Cause dam' sure, I can tell what harm the (otherwise, legit) Microsoft's actions caused to society.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzit definitely does not mean you can distribute it commercially and make a profit.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzDemonstrate he was going to make a profit.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:48
schestowitzwoe unto us for letting right wingers have power (Score: 3, Insightful)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzby bzipitidoo (4388) on Monday August 05, @01:53PM (#875942) JournalAug 11 07:48
schestowitzPrisons are overcrowded, but somehow they can always make room to punish initiative and activity that is in no way illegal, it is only embarrassing to the powerful.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzFrankly, I am a little scared. This kind of crap could happen to any geek. And I don't mean what Microsoft did, bad though that was, I mean the courts. How the heck does the justice system arrive at such mean, vindictive, damaging, and unfair verdicts so frequently? For instance, there's the terrorism that the MAFIAA engaged in. Potentially almost everyone is guilty of piracy.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzI fear these gross injustices are more possible now, with the right wingers busily filling every vacant court position with vicious partisan hacks who want to turn the clock back to the 1950s or even the 1850s. Their main concern appears to be putting women, brown peoples, agnostics and atheists and other such free thinkers, educators, and liberals and the liberal media under their thumbs. Geeks who aren't prominent in any of those other Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzcategories are a relatively minor target, often just collateral damage.Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzReply to ThisAug 11 07:48
schestowitzRe:woe unto us for letting right wingers have powe (Score: 5, Insightful)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzby ElizabethGreene (6748) on Monday August 05, @03:59PM (#876048)Aug 11 07:48
schestowitzthey can always make room to punish initiative and activity that is in no way illegalAug 11 07:49
schestowitzTake one step back from that and see if this is really the case.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzThis wasn't someone in their basement making sharpie-labeled DVD-R copies. He ran a commercial operation to print thousands of counterfeit discs, taking great care to make it as visually identical to the original as possible so it would get seized as counterfeit by customs, and selling it as if it was the real thing.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzThis guy is a capital P Pirate, not someone banging together PCs from scrap in their basement.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:49
schestowitzRe:woe unto us for letting right wingers have powe (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzby bzipitidoo (4388) on Monday August 05, @07:28PM (#876144) JournalAug 11 07:49
schestowitz> see if this is really the case.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzAn important question. Who is to be believed? MS or Lundgren? Or neither?Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzI would not be surprised to hear that Mr. Lundgren put a toe over a line or two, but given MS's long history of monopolistic bullying, their many attempts to corrupt, co-opt, bury, or break standards-- you know, "embrace, extend, extinguish"-- I am inclined to take yet another story of MS turpitude at face value.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzAs for Piracy, someday, in order to progress towards a kinder and gentler world, society is going to have to understand the basic facts of this matter, and stop accepting corporate and ownership class demonizing of mere copying as an unethical, illegal activity that will insure that artists and their children all starve. Copying is not stealing. Copying is copying. We need a new system to ensure creators are fairly paid, but which also Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzallows us all to exercise our natural right to create and use copies. No more artificial scarcity. Public libraries should be allowed to fully digitize. It also should not be a "Mother may I" system of constantly having to hunt for permission from artists who may or may not be easily identified or contacted, or reasonable and cooperative.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:49
schestowitzRe:woe unto us for letting right wingers have powe (Score: 2)Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzby sjames (2882) on Monday August 05, @08:07PM (#876160) JournalAug 11 07:49
schestowitzHe did what he had to to keep customs from improperly seizing his perfectly legal product. That one needs to be taken up with customs. The same emails that suggest he was making an effort to make the disks look as much like the original disks as possible also support that he did so in response to customs seizing them otherwise.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzTo show that he was a pirate, it would be necessary to show that he attempted to convince the buyer that he was reselling a Microsoft product.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:49
schestowitzdont u just hate m$? (Score: 0)Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzby Anonymous Coward on Monday August 05, @02:09PM (#875950)Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzpoor guy. had to go to prison because people are stupid.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzfirstly they're stupid for using windows secondly for not knowing they can "refresh" their 2nd hand bardware for free and legal.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzso by trying to help the dumb people stay dumb, providing a service that allows them to "refresh" their 2nd hand from a "not sanctioned CD" instead of having to do it tbemselfs and in the process save tons of upload bandwidth on the official refresh providing m$ servers ... he goes to prison.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzso i am wondering if this would have played out differently if:Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzhe would have made a cd with linux that boots and asks if you want to:Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzA) give linux a go (live cd, gui icon "install linux")Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzB) fetch the "refresh.iso" from m$ and burn it to a cdAug 11 07:49
schestowitz?Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzanyways ... i guess he should have totally printed something like this on CD.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitz"THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL MS DISK.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzCONTAINES "REFRESH.ISO" DATA. publically downloadable FROM WWW.M$.COM.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzWILL NOT WORK WITHOUT A LICENSE KEY FROM M$"Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzor sumething.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzit IS strange, that if ANYBODY can download the data from m$ that somebody cannot download it a thousand times and store it on CDs.Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzmaybe, also if he would let every "customer" sign a 'lil' document that says that signee confirm that monies paid to sir refurbisher is for hardware only and the cd was provided for free" then at least m$ cannot say mr refurbisher was (financially) criminal thus prison is out of scope?Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzReply to ThisAug 11 07:49
schestowitzRe:dont u just hate m$? (Score: 3, Insightful)Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzby hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 05, @02:53PM (#875992)Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzIn one of the emails he wrote, pg 16 here: https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/2LUNDGREN6.pdf [microsoft.com]Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzSecondly, the SP3 discs have a labeling/printing error on the inner ring of the disc. The genuine discs we have seen all say made in U.S.A and have an IFPI Number of L028. The discs wer received from you say Made in U.S.A (no period after the A) and have IFPI number of LO28 (they used the letter "o" instead of a zero). You may think these are small issues, but you must understand that the Chinese counterfeiters have become extremely adept Aug 11 07:49
schestowitzat make counterfeit software and it is getting harder to spot it. ... If they are not perfect, it is because the unit that we received the USA retail on Ebay was not perfect... We made an identical copy of said unit from the same factories that manufacture for Dell.."Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzSo it sounds like he is complaining about receiving a counterfeit to copy and what he wants is a real disc so the copy HE makes, can be perfect and not propagate an error a prior copier made.Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzI get that MS is evil. That's why I don't use MS' products. I get that the traditional software copyright/licensing thing has built into it a bunch of insanity. This guy wasn't trying to undermine the system however, he was looking to profit from that system by giving people the fruits of that system at a lower price than MS was willing to charge. That's not even close to white knight behavior, it is merely an example of a selfish Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzindividual running up against a selfish corporation. No good guys here.Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzReply to This ParentAug 11 07:50
schestowitzRe:dont u just hate m$? (Score: 5, Interesting)Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzby sjames (2882) on Monday August 05, @08:16PM (#876164) JournalAug 11 07:50
schestowitzAn interesting note on MS licensing. I once had a client that wanted me to set up a server running windows. Being unfamiliar with the Windows world's licensing, I called MS to find out what licenses were required, telling the representative to the best of my ability what the anticipated use was and how many would be using it. The answer seemed a bit odd, and MS is notorious for later claiming that what their reps say isn't legally binding,Aug 11 07:50
schestowitz so I called again and got a different rep who gave me a different answer based on the same information. I called once again seeing if I could at least go with 2 out of 3, but the 3rd answer didn't match either of the other answers.Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzSince even MS can't figure out MS licensing, I'm inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt when they don't seem to understand it either.Aug 11 07:50
schestowitzI also avoid MS products, especially where licensing them introduces a business risk.Aug 11 07:50
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MichellBasler/status/1158605648730345472Aug 11 07:57
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schestowitz"I learned how to use a computer back in the 80's? was born in 74. Used Apples in the 3rd and 4th grade that were donated by Steve Jobs. played with turtle, oregon trail, and other things. Did learn some Dos but unfortunately I was young enough the limited outcomes frustrated me"Aug 11 07:58
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:58
schestowitzStoked to have your as part of the conversation 😁Aug 11 07:58
schestowitzMy feed exists to keep me updated on my interests, great to find others who find it if interest too!Aug 11 07:58
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MichellBasler/status/1158598539091464192Aug 11 07:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MichellBasler: @GamerGeekNews @tuxmachines yes I'm trying to learn so this is great I'm just glad I happened upon you and followed :)Aug 11 07:58
schestowitz"yes I'm trying to learn so this is great I'm just glad I happened upon you and followed :)"Aug 11 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GamerGeekNews/status/1158596546310504448Aug 11 07:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GamerGeekNews: @MichellBasler @tuxmachines Haha know what you mean, always good to expand ones lexicon though 😁Aug 11 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MichellBasler/status/1158594928449953792Aug 11 07:58
schestowitz"for me some of it is like, I wish I had google translate for geekspeak. :) but it's good for me to take the time to look words up"Aug 11 07:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MichellBasler: @GamerGeekNews @tuxmachines for me some of it is like, I wish I had google translate for geekspeak. :) but it's goo… https://t.co/35Wjqa0fWoAug 11 07:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1158014866361331717Aug 11 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: I'm getting sick and tired of all the editorializing at @tuxmachines . For years we've relied on the site to link t… https://t.co/C8UCXO9bOBAug 11 07:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: I'm getting sick and tired of all the editorializing at @tuxmachines . For years we've relied on the site to link t… https://t.co/C8UCXO9bOBAug 11 07:59
schestowitz"Aug 11 07:59
schestowitzI'm getting sick and tired of all the editorializing at Aug 11 07:59
schestowitz@tuxmachinesAug 11 08:00
schestowitz . For years we've relied on the site to link to FOSS news without telling us how to think and trusting us to connect the dots for ourselves. Please quit the editorializing and go back to your original mandate.Aug 11 08:00
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:00
schestowitzThanks for the feedback. Will try hard to incorporate this. Is it the "Ed" part or headlines that cause nuisance? @schestowitzAug 11 08:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Linuxeo9/status/1156830766204096513Aug 11 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Linuxeo9: @tuxmachines I am getting an error when trying to register at tuxmachines. Could please fix this? ThanksAug 11 08:01
schestowitzWe had to disable these due to spam. You can email us to create an account manually.Aug 11 08:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vmoodley/status/1153697527675392001Aug 11 08:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@vmoodley: @tuxmachines Here you go. Easy peasy. https://t.co/wOf8gBU53TAug 11 08:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swr266/status/1151219996812619776Aug 11 08:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@swr266: @JihadWatchPL @Khadimhussain4 @tuxmachines @drnramana I predict he'll have a short life.Aug 11 08:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1147854024705794050Aug 11 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Also, a belated happy birthday to @TuxMachines ! https://t.co/uYWoABQA28Aug 11 08:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?Aug 11 08:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15472182#c89a70b08c1e0137e59a0cc47a07853cAug 11 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: And they try to tell us #pelosi is the 'opposite' of #trump ...Aug 11 08:11
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_64be34dd77f280d3bf6f.jpegAug 11 08:11
schestowitzthe opposite of a dangerous criminal liar on the right is actually a dangerous criminal liar on the left.Aug 11 08:11
schestowitzthe left wants you to think its a non-dangerous, non-criminal, non-liar, but thats the left for you. pelosi isnt non-dangerous, and helping to cover up torture makes her a war criminal.Aug 11 08:11
schestowitzshes only a polar opposite, not an opposite in terms of character or deed.Aug 11 08:11
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15473084#340a39208c250137fe6f0cc47a07853cAug 11 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Antivaxxers know they might be going extinct (high mortality rates do that to a group), so now they just threaten to kill those looking to mandate vaccination. How about the "pro-lifers" who bomb clinics? With people inside those clinics...Aug 11 08:12
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:12
schestowitz[citation needed]Aug 11 08:12
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comAug 11 08:12
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago Aug 11 08:12
schestowitzoh, ok. someone threatened wilson.Aug 11 08:12
schestowitznot to be a dick, but i think video game developers actually suffer worse on a regular basis.Aug 11 08:12
schestowitzim not denying that such a thing is going to be (and very likely should be) taken more seriously when directed at congress. its like threatening a judge-- you just dont do that, it undermines democracy and subverts the will of the people (not that congress doesnt, just that the thing to repair is the election-- if you want to impeach, thats how you repair the outcome.)Aug 11 08:12
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comAug 11 08:12
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 23 days ago Aug 11 08:12
schestowitzgiven the most recent article, i will further clarify the above post. video game developers routinely receive death threats. in some ways its more serious if youre in congress, in other ways its more serious if youve received several. if anybody construed this as an endorsement or defense of violent threats, they had to take it far out of context first.Aug 11 08:12
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15471927#149e8da08c220137e57e0cc47a07853cAug 11 08:12
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:12
schestowitzso was the right to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_ReadAug 11 08:12
schestowitzunfortunately this one is mostly true now (and the reason im now boycotting amazon for twelve years running)Aug 11 08:13
schestowitzdoctorow is right-- food could be next (though with the move to gmos, food is more of a patent problem right now, ffs!)Aug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mr. @Doctorow 's novella "Unauthorized Bread" explains why we have to fight #DRM today to avoid a grim future https://www.defectivebydesign.org/blog/doctorows_novella_unauthorized_bread_explains_why_we_have_fight_drm_today_avoid_grim_future nice analogy!Aug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.defectivebydesign.org | Doctorow's novella "Unauthorized Bread" explains why we have to fight DRM today to avoid a grim future | Defective by DesignAug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | The Right to Read - WikipediaAug 11 08:13
schestowitznice analogy!Aug 11 08:13
schestowitzanalogy? https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/5/7986327/keurigs-attempt-to-drm-its-coffee-cups-totally-backfiredAug 11 08:13
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Keurig's attempt to 'DRM' its coffee cups totally backfired - The VergeAug 11 08:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15468266#53f958f08ba20137e5a00cc47a07853cAug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Watchtroll: "big tech companies—Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Apple—are becoming too..." Where's #microsoft ? An underdog now? Startup? Did it bribe enough people in Office to ignore its ongoing crimes, including #bribery itself? Aug 11 08:13
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:13
schestowitzAn underdog now?Aug 11 08:13
schestowitzof course its an underdog… microsoft is david, against the goliath of every user that dishonestly and greedily stands against it! http://thenarcissistinyourlife.com/narcissists-projections-are-psychologically-abusive/Aug 11 08:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/06/03/halloween-documents-microsoft/Aug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thenarcissistinyourlife.com | Narcissist's Projections are Psychologically Abusive | The Narcissist In Your LifeAug 11 08:13
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comAug 11 08:13
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 24 days ago Aug 11 08:13
schestowitznow?Aug 11 08:13
schestowitznow? they were an underdog all this time:Aug 11 08:13
schestowitzhttps://invidio.us/watch?v=2zrB4dtI-NA&t=415 (the fun starts at 6:55 but the part most relevant to this is at 7:21)Aug 11 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Playing the Victim — Show the World That Too Much Freedom Hurts Development | TechrightsAug 11 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us | Revolution OS - InvidiousAug 11 08:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15463433#13bc10808ba10137e58c0cc47a07853cAug 11 08:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: He was an opponent of #privacy Hardly a champion of the #internet Then again, this is Arse Technically Pedophile. Won't "speak ill of the dead"... won't speak about its child-raping staff. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/07/the-supreme-court-loses-its-cryptographer/Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzHe was an opponent of #privacyAug 11 08:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com | Justice John Paul Stevens, dead at 99, promoted the Internet revolution | Ars TechnicaAug 11 08:15
schestowitzHardly a champion of the #internetAug 11 08:15
schestowitzfair enough-- he did have some good points, even progressive ones. but that just goes to show you, progressives dont always give a shit about privacy or free speech (i lied, i dont know if he is actually considered progressive or not. but the part about some good, arguably progressive points is true. i read about him and first assumed “good riddance” but i kept reading. no word yet on his career overall, just saying.)Aug 11 08:15
schestowitz DavidAug 11 08:15
schestowitzDavid - 24 days ago Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzHe was an opponent of #privacyAug 11 08:15
schestowitzLinks to documentation of this? And of your allegations of sexual abuse? Not saying you’re wrong or right; just want evidence instead of allegations. Especially, when, as far as you’ve let me know, the allegations are yours alone.Aug 11 08:15
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comAug 11 08:15
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 24 days ago Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzsome quotes:Aug 11 08:15
schestowitz“anonymous pamphleteering is not a pernicious, fraudulent practice, but an honorable tradition of advocacy and of dissent. Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority.”Aug 11 08:15
schestowitz“It is offensive . . . to the very notion of a free society that in the context of everyday public discourse a citizen must first inform the government of her desire to speak to her neighbors and then obtain a permit to do so.”Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzfrom the washington compost: “He also taught us that nobody is below the law. Not the reviled detainees at Guantanamo Bay — he led the court in rejecting the Bush administration’s attempt to establish a law-free zone of absolute executive power in the isolated island prison.”Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzfrom the daily beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-roberts-sides-with-supreme-courts-liberals-to-save-your-digital-privacy “The conservative justice bucked right-wingers and said police must get a warrant before searching cellphone location data.”Aug 11 08:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thedailybeast.com | John Roberts Sides With Supreme Court’s Liberals to Save Your Digital PrivacyAug 11 08:15
schestowitzhe sounds like a good guy. he honestly sounds like the sort of person that might have made a few bad decisions, he has even gone on record of some of the decisions he regrets making.Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzi cant find his anti-privacy rulings.Aug 11 08:15
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comAug 11 08:15
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 24 days ago Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzi read about him and first assumed “good riddance”Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzi cant find what i was reading, either. but it certainly wasnt the quotes i just posted.Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzbut i kept reading.Aug 11 08:15
schestowitz"Aug 11 08:15
schestowitzComing back late to this comment/post, about Ars: http://techrights.org/2019/06/07/microsoft-peter-is-a-pedophile/ on the Justice, towards the very end of his career Groklaw blasted him for opinions that dismissed privacy rights. And I always remember that; I also mentioned that at techrights (at the time)Aug 11 08:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter is a Pedophile, Arrested Without Bail | TechrightsAug 11 08:17
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schestowitz>> Perhaps we can take techrights to the 'next level' by making daily linksAug 11 10:59
schestowitz>> partly a purifier of news in this age of noise, spam, and 5MB to read aAug 11 10:59
schestowitz>> 5-paragraph article.Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz>>Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz>>  http://techrights.org/2019/08/11/linux-being-changed/Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz>>Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz>>Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz>> we already have some pieces in place for this...Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz>>Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz> Ok.  Sounds good.Aug 11 10:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux is Not Winning, It’s Changing (or Being Changed) | TechrightsAug 11 10:59
schestowitz> Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz> By the way, I had this one in links already:Aug 11 10:59
schestowitz> Aug 11 11:00
schestowitz> https://www.computerworld.com/article/3431148/why-data-centres-are-the-new-frontier-in-the-fight-against-climate-change.htmlAug 11 11:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworld.com | What impact are data centres having on climate change? | ComputerworldAug 11 11:00
schestowitz> PS.  Whenever I've checked over the years, the decorative images haveAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> been stored full-size and not scaled.  I'd recommend scaling them beforeAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> upload.  I expect that few if any have ever tried to zoom in on theAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> decorations in the headerAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> Aug 11 11:05
schestowitz> Here's one from last night.  I've run ImageMagick's convert utility overAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> it to scale it to the required 480 pixels while keeping the aspect ratio:Aug 11 11:05
schestowitz> Aug 11 11:05
schestowitz> $ wgetAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/programmer-1-1534401.jpgAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> Aug 11 11:05
schestowitz> $ convert programmer-1-1534401.jpg -resize 480 t-programmer-1-1534401.jpegAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> Aug 11 11:05
schestowitz> $ stat --printf "% 10s\t%n\n" programmer-1-1534401.jpgAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> t-programmer-1-1534401.jpegAug 11 11:05
schestowitz>     325622programmer-1-1534401.jpgAug 11 11:05
schestowitz>      51116t-programmer-1-1534401.jpegAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> Aug 11 11:05
schestowitz> We're still talking small files but at the scale TR operates, it makes aAug 11 11:05
schestowitz> difference in future storage.Aug 11 11:05
schestowitzI used to rescale them all back in the days. Then phones became the dominant access medium. And people pinch and zoom these, so high res can help. It can also help SEO.Aug 11 11:06
schestowitz              <li>Aug 11 13:54
schestowitz                <h5><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/08/victory-lawsuit-may-proceed-against-facebooks-biometric-surveillance-0">Victory! Lawsuit May Proceed Against Facebook’s Biometric Surveillance</a></h5>Aug 11 13:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Deeplinks Blog | Electronic Frontier FoundationAug 11 13:54
schestowitz                <blockquote>Aug 11 13:54
schestowitz                  <p>The decision, by the federal Ninth Circuit about an Illinois privacy law, is the first by an American appellate court to directly identify the unique hazards of face surveillance. This is an important victory for biometric privacy, access to the courts for ordinary people, and the role of state governments as guardians of our digital liberty.  </p></blockquote></li>Aug 11 13:54
schestowitz            </ul></li>Aug 11 13:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1160562773597855745Aug 11 16:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Hey there Little Red Riding Hood, you sure are looking good, you're everything a proprietary wolf could want: Launc… https://t.co/PChhQONIXOAug 11 16:13
schestowitz"Hey there Little Red Riding Hood, you sure are looking good, you're everything a proprietary wolf could want: Launching the Weekly Openwashing Report @boycottnovell @tuxmachines"Aug 11 16:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Hey there Little Red Riding Hood, you sure are looking good, you're everything a proprietary wolf could want: Launc… https://t.co/PChhQONIXOAug 11 16:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HEIDCAST/status/1160268893983793152Aug 11 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HEIDCAST: @schestowitz Apple is just expensive shitAug 11 19:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/leesmapman/status/1160276176730021888Aug 11 19:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@leesmapman: @HEIDCAST @schestowitz Which, for some reason, turns its users into obnoxious acolytes of the Apple church.Aug 11 19:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/leesmapman/status/1160276176730021888Aug 11 19:32
schestowitzNo, I wish... still got scorpions?Aug 11 19:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/leesmapman/status/1160276176730021888Aug 11 19:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/john_bokma/status/1160286537344593920Aug 11 19:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@john_bokma: @schestowitz Your cats?Aug 11 19:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1160445937522814976Aug 11 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: @BrideOfLinux Thanks for the feedback. Will try hard to incorporate this. Is it the "Ed" part or headlines that cause nuisance? @schestowitzAug 11 19:34
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:34
schestowitzThanks for the feedback. Will try hard to incorporate this. Is it the "Ed" part or headlines that cause nuisance? Aug 11 19:34
schestowitz@schestowitzAug 11 19:34
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1160486569515671552Aug 11 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz can we request the source code?Aug 11 19:34
schestowitzYou can try.Aug 11 19:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1160532747963785216Aug 11 19:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @tuxmachines @schestowitz The editorial comments to the headlines. Trust your readers to connect the dots for thems… https://t.co/iUiTEmqTGBAug 11 19:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @tuxmachines @schestowitz The editorial comments to the headlines. Trust your readers to connect the dots for thems… https://t.co/iUiTEmqTGBAug 11 19:35
schestowitz"The editorial comments to the headlines. Trust your readers to connect the dots for themselves. Tux Machines' job isn't to explain the news to people. It's never been, and IMO, shouldn't be a news analysis site. You have Tech Rights for that."Aug 11 19:35
schestowitzThanks, will take note Aug 11 19:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fleming77/status/1160548820637409282Aug 11 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fleming77: The European eel begins life in the Sargasso Sea as larvae and numbers have been dropping since the 18th and 19th C… https://t.co/o5DMnGmbljAug 11 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fleming77: The European eel begins life in the Sargasso Sea as larvae and numbers have been dropping since the 18th and 19th C… https://t.co/o5DMnGmbljAug 11 19:37
schestowitz"The European eel begins life in the Sargasso Sea as larvae and numbers have been dropping since the 18th and 19th Centuries"Aug 11 19:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fleming77/status/1160548820637409282Aug 11 19:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/databaazi/status/1160552417647370240Aug 11 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@databaazi: @schestowitz @BharatVarma3Aug 11 19:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BharatVarma3/status/1160570216520142848Aug 11 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BharatVarma3: @databaazi @schestowitz Misinformation as usual, thoroughly debunked here. (And the Rajya Sabha website has no men… https://t.co/0y2VjjoUAwAug 11 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BharatVarma3: @databaazi @schestowitz Misinformation as usual, thoroughly debunked here. (And the Rajya Sabha website has no men… https://t.co/0y2VjjoUAwAug 11 19:38
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:38
schestowitzMisinformation as usual, thoroughly debunked here.Aug 11 19:38
schestowitz(And the Rajya Sabha website has no mention of any amendments that need to be passed again by the LS).Aug 11 19:38
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pandoragorman/status/1160552064403087360Aug 11 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pandoragorman: @schestowitz https://t.co/y0CIgoqk3ZAug 11 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pandoragorman: @schestowitz https://t.co/y0CIgoqk3ZAug 11 19:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pandoragorman/status/1160552064403087360Aug 11 19:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AnnieReedSings/status/1160556076493938690Aug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AnnieReedSings: @schestowitz @WendyMeer11 @RepAdamSchiffAug 11 19:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TriciaE72/status/1160556709494083585Aug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TriciaE72: #FreeRealityWinner https://t.co/J8i7tuHIufAug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: old: Don't forget #RealityWinner https://t.co/M3JP3mrUruAug 11 19:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/csolisr/status/1160559392611274753Aug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@csolisr: @schestowitz I thought @e_mydata was already using @fdroidorg ?Aug 11 19:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnarlin2/status/1160562037673680897Aug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnarlin2: @schestowitz Serve your country by warning about democracy being attacked, go to jail. Who are the people who have done this to her?Aug 11 19:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/steinnes/status/1160563695438761984Aug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@steinnes: This is how the US treats true patriots. Those willing to risk everything for the integrity and ideals of their de… https://t.co/3fr2i4Zxo3Aug 11 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@steinnes: This is how the US treats true patriots. Those willing to risk everything for the integrity and ideals of their de… https://t.co/3fr2i4Zxo3Aug 11 19:39
schestowitz"This is how the US treats true patriots.  Those willing to risk everything for the integrity and ideals of their democracy."Aug 11 19:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MehdiFalamarzi/status/1160577661699317761Aug 11 19:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MehdiFalamarzi: @schestowitz Why!Aug 11 19:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sandyshark/status/1160579610326818816Aug 11 19:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sandyshark: Stallman and Torvalds both played a part in the open source #revolution but only one of them released a Linux https://t.co/SXNdsKm8NSAug 11 19:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Linus Torvalds initiated this revolution by releasing the first-ever open-source software" ?!?!?!?! Revisionism th… https://t.co/8oM1ZUUo38Aug 11 19:40
schestowitz"Stallman and  Torvalds  both played a part in   the  open source #revolution  but  only one of them released a Linux"Aug 11 19:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sandyshark/status/1160580496025407488Aug 11 19:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sandyshark: @schestowitz So how was Stallman involved with Linux? He had been making free software for years before the 90s https://t.co/lDyhbguYaQAug 11 19:41
schestowitz"So how was Stallman involved with Linux?  He had been making free software for years before the 90s"Aug 11 19:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Interview on the History and Ethics of Free Software - YouTubeAug 11 19:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/1160617387181219840Aug 11 19:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: https://t.co/BqdQBIskCmAug 11 19:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: today's howtos https://t.co/nltssglFaB #howto #gnu #linux #unixAug 11 19:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/1160617502507802625Aug 11 19:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Hi! https://t.co/kIngigZlhV ~~~fj7Aug 11 19:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: "In the ideal expansion of this concept, the entire telecommunications network assumes the capabilities of a genera… https://t.co/ADORqB0uUvAug 11 19:42
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/08/remembering-shamnad-basheer.html?showComment=1565531285088#c5855521612319173442Aug 11 19:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Remembering Shamnad Basheer - The IPKatAug 11 19:56
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:56
schestowitzDaryl Lim has asked IPKat to publish the following words about Shamnad.Aug 11 19:56
schestowitz"Shamnad was the lens through which many saw IP in India. His was the voice heard by leading scholars from around the world when the International Association for the Advancement of Teaching and Research in Intellectual Property (ATRIP) invited Shamnad to present his winning paper, "The “GLIVEC” Patent Saga". The award was, and remains, the most prestigious international honor of its kind. He was the inaugural winner, and it is just Aug 11 19:56
schestowitzone of many instances when he blazed a trail for the rest of us. The IP community around the world has lost a leader and friend, but he has left his ideals and insights as kindling for us to take hold of and use to continue illuminating the path to ahead. In so doing, we continue his work and honor his legacy." Aug 11 19:56
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:56

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