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| MinceR | 02 004729 < immibis> any state, any country | Aug 02 00:03 |
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| MinceR | probably not in south-east asia | Aug 02 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | worse case scenario, many would not wear it | Aug 02 00:03 |
| immibis | worst case scenario is they overthrow the government and institute fascism | Aug 02 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody will go to war with weapons over "the shopkeepers ask me to wear a mask" | Aug 02 00:04 |
| MinceR | how will people notice? | Aug 02 00:04 |
| immibis | MinceR: if you think the developed world today is fascist, you are wrong | Aug 02 00:04 |
| immibis | there is a long way between here and the USSR or Nazi Germany | Aug 02 00:04 |
| MinceR | and we're running that way | Aug 02 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problems are economic | Aug 02 00:05 |
| MinceR | the state party of hungary used to pose as heroic anti-communists (even though they couldn't and didn't do shit about the previous russian empire) | Aug 02 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people out of work | Aug 02 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they start voting more radically | Aug 02 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | COVID is not the instigator | Aug 02 00:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a symptom of it | Aug 02 00:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | too many people outside the workforce | Aug 02 00:06 |
| MinceR | recently they're fighting to spend lots of tax money on building a campus in hungary for an alleged "university" (fudan) which requires its staff and students to be loyal to the communist party of china | Aug 02 00:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | belt and braces :-) | Aug 02 00:07 |
| MinceR | belt and jumper cables | Aug 02 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/president-xi-jinping-belt-and-road-project-of-great-importance-to-china-pak-ties-2283360 | Aug 02 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ndtv.com | President Xi Jinping: Belt And Road Project Of Great Importance To China-Pak Ties | Aug 02 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | China imitates US | Aug 02 00:07 |
| schestowitz | and maybe USSR | Aug 02 00:07 |
| schestowitz | "soft power" | Aug 02 00:08 |
| MinceR | if only | Aug 02 00:08 |
| MinceR | immibis: oh, i was also thinking of orbanistan, not just the allegedly developed world | Aug 02 00:09 |
| MinceR | that said, the christian fundamentalist union of germany did a lot to support the hungarian communist party in their endeavors against the alleged values of the EU | Aug 02 00:09 |
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| MinceR | the USA was also only saved from being turned into a dictatorship by their checks and balances | Aug 02 00:10 |
| MinceR | cheeto hitler only managed to do so much to undermine the republic in 4 years | Aug 02 00:10 |
| MinceR | in hungary, it took less than a year to effectively destroy the republic | Aug 02 00:10 |
| MinceR | in 2010 | Aug 02 00:10 |
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| schestowitz-TR | seems like a trend | Aug 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we have belarus(sia) | Aug 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | regimes soooo good that they attract planes to them... like magnets | Aug 02 00:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 02 00:19 |
| MinceR | belarus is so great their olympic athletes are trying to avoid going home | Aug 02 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: She is afraid of prosecution. | Aug 02 00:22 |
| MinceR | what would she be prosecuted for? | Aug 02 00:22 |
| MinceR | and how come she'd be safe from prosecution in nearly any other country? | Aug 02 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: She criticised. | Aug 02 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | one cannot commit a worse crime | Aug 02 00:24 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: the root cause here is the fact that people are forced to find work even when there is nothing for them to do | Aug 02 00:24 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 02 00:25 |
| immibis | MinceR: i'm gonna need about 100 citations on hungary's government building a campus for CCP members only. That sounds like typical anti-left propaganda | Aug 02 00:25 |
| MinceR | immibis: it's not for members only, it's for people who agree to become loyal to the CPC | Aug 02 00:25 |
| immibis | close enough | Aug 02 00:28 |
| immibis | why would the hungarian government care about that | Aug 02 00:28 |
| immibis | you're gonna say "because leftists" or something | Aug 02 00:28 |
| immibis | it's like saying, microsoft wants to build a data center, for customers who swear to only ever buy google products | Aug 02 00:29 |
| MinceR | because they decided that "bruxelles" is their enemy and that russia and red china are their allies in their fight against the west | Aug 02 00:31 |
| schestowitz | lol: https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/8/1/245 | Aug 02 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: "Mrs.Favour Jonathan": Hello Dear | Aug 02 00:32 | |
| MinceR | typically the hungarian state party calls everyone who opposes them "leftists" (also "liberals"), so i don't see much merit in that "anti-left propaganda" theory :> | Aug 02 00:32 |
| MinceR | https://www.direkt36.hu/en/kinai-hitelbol-keszul-a-magyar-felsooktatas-oriasberuhazasa-a-kormany-mar-oda-is-igerte-egy-kinai-cegnek/ | Aug 02 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.direkt36.hu | Huge Chinese loan to cover the construction of Fudan University in Budapest | Direkt36 | Aug 02 00:32 | |
| MinceR | on the loyalty requirement: (in hungarian) https://444.hu/2021/04/19/hszi-csin-ping-szerint-a-kinai-egyetemeknek-a-kommunista-parthoz-teljes-mertekben-hu-diakokat-kell-nevelniuk | Aug 02 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-444.hu | Hszi Csin-ping szerint a kínai egyetemeknek a Kommunista párthoz teljes mértékben hű diákokat kell nevelniük | Aug 02 00:33 | |
| MinceR | better article on the loyalty requirement: (in hungarian) https://444.hu/2021/04/16/a-kinai-kommunista-part-huseges-kaderkepzoje-tart-budapestre-vagy-egy-nyugatos-elitegyetem | Aug 02 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-444.hu | A Kínai Kommunista Párt hűséges káderképzője tart Budapestre, vagy egy nyugatos elitegyetem? | Aug 02 00:33 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz> also, more importantly, most UK hospitalisations are of vaccinated people | Aug 02 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | Insofar as you can call that AstraZeneca shit a vaccine. | Aug 02 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | Dump it in Hungary and start over. | Aug 02 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR would still be better off than under Orban's plan. | Aug 02 00:34 |
| MinceR | hungary doesn't want it | Aug 02 00:34 |
| MinceR | hungary wants the unproven, uninspected shit that comes out of gamaleya and sinopharm | Aug 02 00:34 |
| MinceR | they especially like to give the sinopharm crap to people who are at least 60 years old | Aug 02 00:35 |
| MinceR | even red china doesn't claim to have tested it on people of that age | Aug 02 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> the USA was also only saved from being turned into a dictatorship by their checks and balances | Aug 02 00:35 |
| MinceR | but orban doesn't care, he just wants to claim to have given vaccines to people, he doesn't care if the plebs get COVID-19 or get crippled by PACS | Aug 02 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | One of which was that the federal government has limited control over elections. | Aug 02 00:36 |
| MinceR | s/CS/SC | Aug 02 00:36 |
| MinceR | / | Aug 02 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | States can definitely be tyrannical, but Trump couldn't just reach in and change all of the voting laws and declare himself the winner. | Aug 02 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, they had limited incentive to help him in particular. | Aug 02 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | They're happy as long as they all get re-elected, and they got elected under the laws they have. | Aug 02 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | These new "voter suppression" laws really don't change voting all that much as far as being able to go in and vote. | Aug 02 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | What they do is curtail mail voting, which doesn't really bother me all that much considering there's polling places pretty much everywhere. | Aug 02 00:38 |
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| DaemonFC | Illinois should be changing its laws to mail out the ballots earlier. | Aug 02 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | They claimed they did it 10 days before election day, but I got my ballot in the mail 2 days ahead of election day, which wasn't enough time to mail it back. And I knew that was coming because the state said make sure you mail them back at least 5 days before election day. | Aug 02 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | They're supposed to count as long as they're postmarked by election day and arrive no later than 14 days after. | Aug 02 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | What they do is they give a provisional result on election night, and what happened in Lake County, Illinois was that it looked like a couple of county Republicans would hang on, just as it initially looked like Trump had won several states that he didn't. | Aug 02 00:41 |
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| DaemonFC | But when the totals kept getting updated, it quickly became clear that there would be no countywide elected Republicans left at all, and then 2 Republican county board members lost their election too, by a handful of votes. | Aug 02 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | But losing is losing. | Aug 02 00:42 |
| activelow | concerning pulmonary disease what about this: air pollution? | Aug 02 00:42 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: from http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ ==> FREENODE | Aug 02 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights | Aug 02 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | "Closing link: (web-30@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:e680:7c16:cbc6:b594) [You must use TLS/SSL and authenticate via SASL to connect to freenode please visit https://irc.com/login/sso in order to create an account. SASL Configuration: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl - Webchat: https://webchat.freenode.net/]" | Aug 02 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com Login | Aug 02 00:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Connecting with SASL - freenode | Aug 02 00:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.freenode.net | Kiwi IRC | Aug 02 00:43 | |
| DaemonFC | The red mirage happened all over the country. | Aug 02 00:43 |
| schestowitz | So even their Webapp stopped working | Aug 02 00:43 |
| immibis | MinceR: that sounds like complete made up horseshit | Aug 02 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | That was what Trump was panicking about. He wanted to stop the mail ballots from getting counted. | Aug 02 00:43 |
| schestowitz | This is really rubbish, freenode | Aug 02 00:43 |
| immibis | MinceR: now explain why the anti-left party would ally themselves with the communists | Aug 02 00:43 |
| activelow | they rather discuss "toxic" CO2 than benzene concentration or toxic dusts | Aug 02 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | But voter participation wasn't much higher than usual. | Aug 02 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's just that people shifted to mail ballots. If it gets hard to request one, they would probably just vote in person again. | Aug 02 00:44 |
| activelow | so, who is funding those "eco activists"? | Aug 02 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think that either way, Trump would lose. In fact, mail voting may have helped him. | Aug 02 00:44 |
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| DaemonFC | Those last minute dirty tricks at the post office may have disqualified nearly half a million voters. | Aug 02 00:45 |
| immibis | CO2 is toxic because it makes the whole planet unliveable. benzene kills individual people. it's like COVID-19 vs car accidents. car accidents are an individual problem, COVID-19 is a global systemic one | Aug 02 00:45 |
| MinceR | immibis: they don't care, they just want money and power | Aug 02 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | People mailed them figuring their vote would count and then they got stuck in transit and didn't count. | Aug 02 00:45 |
| MinceR | immibis: and it's easier to get loans from the east without being asked what the money is used for and how | Aug 02 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | If they voted in person as well, they'd have been prosecuted, so even if they had their doubts after mailing the ballot, they wouldn't try to vote. | Aug 02 00:46 |
| immibis | MinceR: so why don't they get the loan and then NOT spend it on a CCP-requiring university? | Aug 02 00:46 |
| immibis | they could just get the loan and then buy yachts | Aug 02 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | Voting in person at least requires you to go down there and you know you voted. | Aug 02 00:46 |
| MinceR | immibis: they're trying to ingratiate themselves with the CPC | Aug 02 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's no question about it getting caught in the mail and not counting because of that. | Aug 02 00:46 |
| schestowitz | you don't know | Aug 02 00:46 |
| activelow | you know, those "eco" "alliance90/greens" are most successfull nearby where Mercedes/Benz is manufacturing, it is one of those green "eco" politicians elected as "prime minister" of Baden Württemberg | Aug 02 00:46 |
| schestowitz | you think you know | Aug 02 00:46 |
| schestowitz | you cast a paper somewhere | Aug 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I signed a form to void the mail ballot and promised to destroy it if it came, then voted in person. | Aug 02 00:47 |
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| immibis | a blockchain vote would actually increase the amount of knowledge you have that you've voted | Aug 02 00:47 |
| schestowitz | better than some web page or envelope saying "thank you for voting" | Aug 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | I was madder than hell about a lot of things, not just Trump. | Aug 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Including that idiot prosecutor. | Aug 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Who is now a judge. | Aug 02 00:47 |
| MinceR | a blockchain vote would also make who voted for what public | Aug 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Golden parachutes! | Aug 02 00:47 |
| activelow | currentlz Baden Württembeg is the only federal state where those "eco" greens are ruling with a prime minister, and it is a federal state with the *worst* ecologocial/climate balance | Aug 02 00:47 |
| MinceR | tallying votes isn't nearly as challenging if it's acceptable to let everyone know who voted for what | Aug 02 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: webchat is also prone, yes | Aug 02 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | We vote him out, the bar association makes him a judge. | Aug 02 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | So we need to vote him out again, I guess. | Aug 02 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be a while before he's up for retention. The good news is he'll need 60% in favor next time because he's a judge now. | Aug 02 00:48 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: so from "AUTONOMOUS ZONE" it is becoming "NO-GO ZONE" | Aug 02 00:48 |
| schestowitz | or rather, a very difficult zone to enter, esp. anonymouslu | Aug 02 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | He only got 46.5% in favor running for prosecutor. | Aug 02 00:49 |
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| DaemonFC | So appointing him as a judge just puts him on borrowed time if people remember that they didn't want him in 2020. | Aug 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | must provide email address and pass some JS stuff, pass around messages as pre-requisite for login | Aug 02 00:49 |
| activelow | and guess what, it is this "green eco" prime minister who argued recently: "either you accept the proposed vaccine or you'll be denied entrance into restaurants and cinema, and you'll have to pay for testing" | Aug 02 00:49 |
| activelow | end lose quote | Aug 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Remember: WEB = JS | Aug 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | proprietary | Aug 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't need JS to register ot log in via IRC ports | Aug 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath overlooked that | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | Web = shit | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | www = monopoly and garbage running in the background by default | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | (without user consent | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I find it funny sites and browsers would insist you get some cert from ZemlinPentagon | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | LE | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | but... | Aug 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | the proprietary JS they push onyou by default? | Aug 02 00:51 |
| schestowitz | "fine! Go with it. Nothing to see here.." | Aug 02 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Supercookies? OK | Aug 02 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Just makes you sure you signed up for free cert with ZemlinPentagon | Aug 02 00:51 |
| schestowitz | now run our dodgy proprietary JS, no questions asked | Aug 02 00:52 |
| techrights-news | #Ryujinx (Switch Emulator) Gets The #Vulkan Treatment https://boilingsteam.com/ryujinx-switch-emulator-gets-the-vulkan-treatment/ #deletegithub | Aug 02 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Ryujinx (Switch Emulator) Gets The Vulkan Treatment - Boiling Steam | Aug 02 00:53 | |
| techrights-news | Worthless #ewaste for useless gimmicks https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/01/smartbug-smart-switch-integrates-neatly-into-in-wall-sockets/ adding complexity for so little practical benefit | Aug 02 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | SmartBug smart switch integrates neatly into in-wall sockets (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Aug 02 00:54 | |
| techrights-news | #Kubuntu preinstalled https://www.prweb.com/releases/the_kubuntu_focus_team_announces_the_affordable_kubuntu_focus_xe/prweb18104916.htm #kde #gnu #linux | Aug 02 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweb.com | The Kubuntu Focus Team Announces the Affordable Kubuntu Focus XE | Aug 02 00:54 | |
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| techrights-news | #Nvidia open sources stuff, and FOSS can be profitable - Linux News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMFoI9RtYf8 #gnu #linux | Aug 02 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Connect on Windows and iOS, Nvidia open sources stuff, and FOSS can be profitable - Linux News - YouTube | Aug 02 00:57 | |
| techrights-news | "Based on the K#HealthCertificate library this has been added to KDE Itinerary, and a standalone health certificate wallet app for Plasma Mobile is also in the works." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/08/01/kde-itinerary-june-july-2021.html | Aug 02 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | June/July in KDE Itinerary | Aug 02 00:57 | |
| techrights-news | #freebsd 31 July: Enhanced commit privileges: Li-Wen Hsu (doc, ports, src) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2021-07-31:1 #bsd #unix | Aug 02 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD Project | Aug 02 00:57 | |
| techrights-news | A good start, but #socialcontrolmedia needs to be turned off not just for one day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGZGO1abe2E | Aug 02 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Social Media Detox Day - YouTube | Aug 02 00:59 | |
| schestowitz | freenode: | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | There are 1443 users and 19800 invisible on 27 servers | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * 11 :operator(s) online | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * 11 :unknown connections | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * 22176 :channels formed | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * I have 1928 clients and 1 servers | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * Current local users: 1928 Max: 1929 | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * Current global users: 21243 Max: 22832 | Aug 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | * *.freenode.net message of the day | Aug 02 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | that was last time it reported anything | Aug 02 01:01 |
| schestowitz | now it seems like a lot less | Aug 02 01:01 |
| schestowitz | https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Aug 02 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Aug 02 01:02 | |
| schestowitz | it is no longer even tracked | Aug 02 01:02 |
| MinceR | 02 020217 [freenode2] -!- Current global users: 13352 Max: 22832 | Aug 02 01:02 |
| schestowitz | they have obsoleted themselves | Aug 02 01:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks | Aug 02 01:02 |
| techrights-news | #freenose users online 13352. It was about 90,000 just months ago. They've even managed to make Web access obsolete. It's almost like they don't want users anymore... | Aug 02 01:03 |
| techrights-news | #freenode users online 13352. It was about 90,000 just months ago. They've even managed to make Web access obsolete. It's almost like they don't want users anymore... | Aug 02 01:04 |
| techrights-news | #patentMaximalism #SouthAfrica #selfHarm #patents https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/south-africa-ai-patent-award https://www.williamspowell.com/news/dabus-the-ai-system-confirmed-as-the-inventor-and-dr-stephen-thaler-as-the-owner-of-the-dabus-inventions see http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa | Aug 02 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | South Africa awards world’s first AI-invented patent, but it may not be that big a deal | IAM | Aug 02 01:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.williamspowell.com | DABUS the AI system confirmed as the inventor and Dr Stephen Thaler as the owner of the DABUS inventions - WP IP | Aug 02 01:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in South Africa - Techrights | Aug 02 01:04 | |
| techrights-news | #SouthAfrica seems to be signalling that it has the worst of most lenient #patent office https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/08/south-africa-approves-worlds-first-patent-with-ai-inventor/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa | Aug 02 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jurist.org | South Africa approves world's first patent with AI inventor - JURIST - News - Legal News & Commentary | Aug 02 01:06 | |
| immibis | <schestowitz> Remember: WEB = JS | Aug 02 01:06 |
| immibis | <schestowitz> proprietary | Aug 02 01:06 |
| immibis | doesn't techrights have a web site? | Aug 02 01:06 |
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| schestowitz | We suggest gemini and ipfs | Aug 02 01:07 |
| schestowitz | most people use www | Aug 02 01:07 |
| schestowitz | so that's also an option | Aug 02 01:07 |
| schestowitz | we still use irc | Aug 02 01:07 |
| schestowitz | lots of info passes via irc | Aug 02 01:07 |
| schestowitz | and irc is available from gemini, ipfs, plain text erc. | Aug 02 01:07 |
| schestowitz | many pipelines for that | Aug 02 01:07 |
| techrights-news | #EPO has based everything on unlawful interpretations; why don't #litigation firms speak out against it? https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1097650/assessment-of-inventive-step-of-medical-use-claims-at-the-epo-a-shift-in-approach | Aug 02 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Assessment Of Inventive Step Of Medical Use Claims At The EPO: A Shift In Approach? - Intellectual Property - UK | Aug 02 01:08 | |
| techrights-news | #Patent #litigation firms pushing illegal #softwarepatents under the guise of "simulation" again, relying on a tribunal rigged and intimidated by the EPO's dictatorship https://www.dyoung.com/en/knowledgebank/articles/patent-satellites-space #swpats | Aug 02 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dyoung.com | D Young & Co | Patent rights for satellites: computer simulations for… | Aug 02 01:08 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Is EFnet bigger now? | Aug 02 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: webchat has no special treatment there, yes. | Aug 02 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | Guest login is no more. | Aug 02 01:10 |
| schestowitz | https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2021/07/29/347/ | Aug 02 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | In the pandemic of global neo-liberal capitalist dictatorship we are still here | systemd-free linux community | Aug 02 01:10 | |
| schestowitz | "WordPress continues to make our life miserable, with all their new guis a web-client-google-apis. As if they are no longer capable of developing their own code for a web-client interface they must add google functionality, which in turn is not supported by all safety and privacy minded browsers, only those produced by google and mozilla corporations, making it hard to protect yourselves against the corporate bandits and have adequate | Aug 02 01:11 |
| schestowitz | functionality to publish." | Aug 02 01:11 |
| schestowitz | WordPress is becoming part of the "pandemic" | Aug 02 01:11 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: FREENODE IS IR.. never mind.. | Aug 02 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | freenode is small | Aug 02 01:12 |
| schestowitz | also unwelcoming to anon users | Aug 02 01:12 |
| schestowitz | which sort of contradicts what they said about the alt ircd | Aug 02 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | freenode is irrelevant | Aug 02 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | That's more accurate, right? | Aug 02 01:13 |
| techrights-news | How many millions of people need #patents kill before #patent extremists admit that innovation happens without patents and denies #accesstomedicines h https://writtendescription.blogspot.com/2021/07/whats-happening-with-proposals-for-wto.html | Aug 02 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writtendescription.blogspot.com | Written Description: What’s happening with proposals for a WTO waiver of COVID-related IP? | Aug 02 01:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://freenode.net/ | Aug 02 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode | Aug 02 01:13 | |
| techrights-news | #China lowering the #patent bar to something laughable: Is Dosing Regimen Patentable in China? https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d68708a8-4870-44b4-afcb-a1ae058ae851 | Aug 02 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Dosing Regimen Patentable in China? - Lexology | Aug 02 01:13 | |
| DaemonFC | The Izvestia-style blogging continues. | Aug 02 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Something about dogs and fences and dumbfucks. | Aug 02 01:14 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i'm not on efnet | Aug 02 01:14 |
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| XRevan86 | > :Current global users 13241 | Aug 02 01:16 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=EFnet makes it seem like they're close to the same | Aug 02 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Aug 02 01:16 | |
| XRevan86 | EFnet is still smaller. | Aug 02 01:16 |
| techrights-news | #Apache Month in Review: July 2021 https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apache-month-in-review-july1 | Aug 02 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | Apache Month in Review: July 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog | Aug 02 01:16 | |
| XRevan86 | let's give it a day | Aug 02 01:16 |
| MinceR | i don't care about efnet either | Aug 02 01:16 |
| MinceR | the only service they have is chanfix, and they officially admit that it's unreliable | Aug 02 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> EFnet is still smaller. | Aug 02 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Than the autonomous zone? | Aug 02 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | With Supreme Warlord Root.... | Aug 02 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Yes, the autonomous zone is in top5 for a day. | Aug 02 01:17 |
| schestowitz | the self-harm seems endless | Aug 02 01:17 |
| schestowitz | for a while they hanged on there at 60k | Aug 02 01:18 |
| schestowitz | before killing off their database | Aug 02 01:18 |
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| techrights-news | "Quite a while ago, Arch Linux has turned on many binary security features via compilation flags (2016) or turned off options that are known to help exploit software (debugging symbols, RPATH). Now we have 2021 and Arch Linux made good experience with the additional security options." https://shibumi.dev/posts/hardening-executables/ | Aug 02 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shibumi.dev | Hardening Executables | Aug 02 01:19 | |
| activelow | didnt' drop my freenode account, SASL+cert was registered, and cannot connect anymore | Aug 02 01:20 |
| activelow | not sure why they wiped the database | Aug 02 01:20 |
| schestowitz | too much stoning | Aug 02 01:20 |
| techrights-news | " #WordPress continues to make our life miserable, with all their new guis a web-client-google-apis. As if they are no longer capable of developing their own code for a web-client interface they must add google functionality, which in turn is not supported by all safety and privacy minded browsers, only those produced by google and mozilla corporations" https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2021/07/29/347/ | Aug 02 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | In the pandemic of global neo-liberal capitalist dictatorship we are still here | systemd-free linux community | Aug 02 01:21 | |
| MinceR | it would have been more work to migrate it, presumably | Aug 02 01:21 |
| techrights-news | #patent #law shows that it is irrational https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jul/30/im-sorry-dave-im-afraid-i-invented-that-australian-court-finds-ai-systems-can-be-recognised-under-patent-law | Aug 02 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | I’m sorry Dave I’m afraid I invented that: Australian court finds AI systems can be recognised under patent law | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian | Aug 02 01:21 | |
| MinceR | and rasengan didn't buy the network to do work for its users :> | Aug 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | what is the goal or endgame? | Aug 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | surely it did not go as they had planned | Aug 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | so what does it boil down to now? mindreading is not possible | Aug 02 01:23 |
| activelow | good thing with libera: so far noone dared to register with my nickname there, and i can ask some people anytime if i need to nonetheless | Aug 02 01:23 |
| activelow | seems noone is willing to take the pride of it | Aug 02 01:23 |
| techrights-news | Protect Online #Privacy https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/protect-online-privacy | Aug 02 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Protect Online Privacy | Aug 02 01:23 | |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Aug 02 01:23 |
| MinceR | maybe it was an attempt to settle a score with the old staff (which is understandable, though it didn't seem to do much), somewhat covered up by folding freenode into irc.com | Aug 02 01:24 |
| techrights-news | " #Wyze moved the District Court to dismiss under Rule 12(c), on the grounds that the claims are directed to ineligible subject matter." https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/07/sensormatic-electronics-llc-v-wyze-labs-inc-fed-cir-2021.html | Aug 02 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Sensormatic Electronics, LLC v. Wyze Labs, Inc. (Fed. Cir. 2021) | Aug 02 01:24 | |
| techrights-news | Upcoming #AMD CPU with #RDNA1 #graphics may be coming, spotted in Linux code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154007#comment-30430 | Aug 02 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First mentions of AMD RDNA1 "Cyan Skillfish" iGPU for future Ryzen APUs appear in Linux code | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:25 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: they're not THAT old :-) | Aug 02 01:26 |
| MinceR | i mean the staff from before rasengan took over ircop duties | Aug 02 01:26 |
| *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 02 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Aug 02 01:26 |
| schestowitz | hence the face | Aug 02 01:27 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: correct me if my assumptions are wrong: | Aug 02 01:28 |
| schestowitz | the only reason I still have one client connected to freenode is that my connection has not dropped on it? | Aug 02 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It depends on whether that client is configured in a now-permitted way. | Aug 02 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | if it connects via TLS and with SASL, then it will reconnect successfully. | Aug 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | people who say self-hosting is "lots of work" obviously ignore the situation of being at someone else's mercy when it all goes wrong | Aug 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | like with freenode | Aug 02 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Those people won't have experience with freenode today though, as they ran from the sinking ship in May/June :P | Aug 02 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that food companies are trying to hide a lot of the inflation by reducing their promotional budget. | Aug 02 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like they're fine giving up marketshare to the store brands to get higher margins. | Aug 02 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how this will affect iBotta. | Aug 02 01:32 |
| techrights-news | #patent maximalists still looking for ways to discredit the assessment of #patents legitimacy/quality https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/07/chemours-company-fc-llc-v-darkin-industries-ltd-fed-cir-2021.html techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/ | Aug 02 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Chemours Company FC, LLC v. Darkin Industries, Ltd. (Fed. Cir. 2021) | Aug 02 01:32 | |
| techrights-news | It is illegal and a total disaster, but #EPO management keeps lying about it, insulting the victims https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210730.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/14/law-exams-that-break-the-law/ | Aug 02 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Latest guide to preparing for the EQE is now online | Aug 02 01:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The (e-)EQE Statement From the EPO Makes Things Even Worse as Victims of the Catastrophic Exam Feel Offended and Angry | Techrights | Aug 02 01:32 | |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154042 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:33 | |
| activelow | seems freenode rejects ssl when terminated at an onion exit "Irssi: warning SSL handshake failed: server closed connection unexpectedly" | Aug 02 01:34 |
| techrights-news | Meeting with your mates - #Kalendar week 8 (GSoC 2021) - Stuff I wrote down ⚓ https://claudiocambra.com/2021/08/01/meeting-with-your-mates-kalendar-week-8-gsoc-2021/ ䷉ #claudiocambra | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/01/#latest | Aug 02 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-claudiocambra.com | Meeting with your mates — Kalendar week 8 (GSoC 2021) – Stuff I wrote down | Aug 02 01:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 02 01:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: it's really crap and inconsistent | Aug 02 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they said they wanted to protect users' privacy | Aug 02 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | because "cancel culture" something | Aug 02 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they demand email addresses and JS crap in a Kape Web site | Aug 02 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, Kape is little better than NSO Group | Aug 02 01:36 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: they got my email-address, a valid registration, SASL, cert+fingerprint | Aug 02 01:36 |
| activelow | in fact freenode knew who i was and who i am | Aug 02 01:37 |
| techrights-news | "I wrote a #controlpanel in 2005 using #PHP , without any framework. Who could have guessed it would still be in production now?" https://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2021/old-php/ #programming | Aug 02 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-current.workingdirectory.net | Jamie McClelland | Fixing old PHP code | Aug 02 01:37 | |
| activelow | i followed the timeline of events, and someone has taken freenode down one step at a time: onion, sasl, then wiped database, and now everything | Aug 02 01:38 |
| techrights-news | "As readers may know, the #Germany #DE parliament recently adopted amendments of the German Patent Act (GPA) as the final step of a reform process that spanned nearly two years" | Aug 02 01:38 |
| techrights-news | [...] "According to §139 GPA, a person infringing a #patent may "be sued by the aggrieved party for cessation and desistance", and the reform adds to this the following proviso..." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/amendment-of-german-patent-law-small.html | Aug 02 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Amendment of German patent law: small step or giant leap for proportionality? - The IPKat | Aug 02 01:39 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | activelow: They retained less than 20% os users | Aug 02 01:41 |
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| *schestowitz has kicked tr_guest|55589 from #techrights (User terminated!) | Aug 02 01:41 | |
| schestowitz | I need to watch things more closely | Aug 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | maybe some attempt to 'revenge' | Aug 02 01:42 |
| techrights-news | Leave #biology out of #patents https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1096980/introduction-to-biological-deposits-at-the-european-patent-office-and-under-the-budapest-treaty #epo is also corrupted by #Budapest http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ | Aug 02 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Introduction To Biological Deposits At The European Patent Office And Under The Budapest Treaty - Intellectual Property - European Union | Aug 02 01:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Fixer’ of António Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | Techrights | Aug 02 01:42 | |
| techrights-news | #LinuxMint Needs UI/UX and Graphics Designers for Redesigning its Dated Website • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154030 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Needs UI/UX and Graphics Designers for Redesigning its Dated Website | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:42 | |
| techrights-news | #Xfce ’s Apps Update for July 2021 Brings New Releases of Catfish, Mousepad, Sensors Plugin, and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154031 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce’s Apps Update for July 2021 Brings New Releases of Catfish, Mousepad, Sensors Plugin, and More | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:43 | |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Software – July 2021 Updates • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154032 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Software – July 2021 Updates | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:44 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154033 #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:47 | |
| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154041 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: are you still with PIA? | Aug 02 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Their blog has not been very actively lately | Aug 02 01:47 |
| schestowitz | not a positive sign | Aug 02 01:48 |
| schestowitz | also, there's a quasi-canary about US gov. going after them | Aug 02 01:48 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154034 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, all their US VPNs are now going with some company called Freedom Solutions or something like that. | Aug 02 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | This sounds like a CIA honeypot. | Aug 02 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | "Freedomtech Solutions" | Aug 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | in US freedom means something else | Aug 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | like "democracy" | Aug 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | FreedomPhone | Aug 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | means Trump | Aug 02 01:50 |
| techrights-news | #Debian : #SparkyLinux , WAGO, Raspberry Pi OS/Raspbian • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154035 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Sparky, WAGO, Raspberry Pi OS/Raspbian | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Freedumb | Aug 02 01:51 |
| techrights-news | #KDE: On KDE Connect, Kalendar, Kubuntu, KDE Itinerary, and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154036 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: On KDE Connect, Kalendar, Kubuntu, KDE Itinerary, and More | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: something like that: | Aug 02 01:52 |
| schestowitz | freedom to be dumb enough to reject the science | Aug 02 01:52 |
| schestowitz | and to not follow regulations | Aug 02 01:52 |
| techrights-news | #Lakka 3.3 release • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154037 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.3 release | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:53 | |
| DaemonFC | My mom was interested to find out that we were actually rated 15th in world freedom. | Aug 02 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | I said I guess if it makes you feel better, the Philippines is like #76. | Aug 02 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Somewhat better than Mexico, but not much. | Aug 02 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's like the Mexico of Asia. | Aug 02 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL got pissed when I said "I'm not letting him go back THERE.". | Aug 02 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | She's like "WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'THERE'!?". | Aug 02 01:57 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154043 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 01:59 | |
| techrights-news | Links 1/8/2021: LibreOffice 7.2 RC2 and Lakka 3.3 • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/01/lakka-3-3/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/01/lakka-3-3/ | Aug 02 01:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/8/2021: LibreOffice 7.2 RC2 and Lakka 3.3 | Techrights | Aug 02 01:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, A lot of it has to do with severe overpopulation. | Aug 02 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | Once you get too many people and too much poverty, the government's not going to be any damned good. | Aug 02 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | Because if people do have any say in it, they'll be too backwards to have a functioning democracy. | Aug 02 02:01 |
| activelow | as an outsider, i feel, USA changed i think, since early 1990s. | Aug 02 02:01 |
| techrights-news | Best 13 Open-source Photography Workflow solutions and Adobe Lightroom alternatives • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154038 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best 13 Open-source Photography Workflow solutions and Adobe Lightroom alternatives | Tux Machines | Aug 02 02:02 | |
| techrights-news | Linux 5.15 Adding Management Component Transport Protocol (MCTP) • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154039 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.15 Adding Management Component Transport Protocol (MCTP) | Tux Machines | Aug 02 02:02 | |
| techrights-news | Martín Abente Lahaye: Portfolio 0.9.11 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154040 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GTK #GNOME | Aug 02 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Martín Abente Lahaye: Portfolio 0.9.11 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 02:02 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154044 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 02 02:03 | |
| activelow | it is a rather shallow perspective, maybe, for example, i enjoyed some old TV series from USA, such as the X-files, or the Simpsons | Aug 02 02:03 |
| activelow | which is USA from 1990s | Aug 02 02:03 |
| activelow | wasn't aware the nuanced humor and intellect of that time remained there | Aug 02 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | It changed because the current people in the 18-35 demographic are every bit as stupid as they appear. | Aug 02 02:05 |
| techrights-news | Linux 5.14-rc4 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154045 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14-rc4 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 02:05 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▄▅▄▅▃▂▅▅▆▅▄▃▆▄▅▃▁▃▄▆▃▆▃▄▂▅▅▂▃▄▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.45 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 20.63▕ swarm size (avg): 283.53 ⟲ | Aug 02 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Especially the ones in their teens and 20s, and I point them out not because they're any better than the ones <18 but because they can vote and they protest, not having the slightest clue what things liek Communism would actually entail were they successful. | Aug 02 02:06 |
| schestowitz | "marisol" is a dutertard | Aug 02 02:07 |
| schestowitz | so she contributes to how awful the place is | Aug 02 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them are barely literate and don't know math, and don't know anything except how to shop with their parents' money and god help all of them when their parents die. | Aug 02 02:07 |
| schestowitz | anyway, back to tech... | Aug 02 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | You can't just "teach freedom" to people who are not civilized enough to be free. | Aug 02 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Who are not enlightened enough to appreciate it. | Aug 02 02:08 |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 02 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Who are not industrious enough to create. | Aug 02 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: By the way, I couldn't connect to EFnet via TLS, because… expired certificate. | Aug 02 02:08 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.databreaches.net/hacker-attack-on-the-lazio-region-vaccine-reservations-suspended-shadow-ransomware/ | Aug 02 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Hacker attack on the Lazio Region. Vaccine reservations suspended, shadow ransomware | Aug 02 02:08 | |
| XRevan86 | The stamp of quality right there. | Aug 02 02:08 |
| AdmFubar | the black hole of quality? | Aug 02 02:08 |
| techrights-news | More spying, more #patents ... bucking the trend https://www.sammobile.com/news/patent-reveals-unsightly-galaxy-z-flip-4-with-rotating-hinge-camera/ | Aug 02 02:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent reveals unsightly Galaxy Z Flip (4) with rotating hinge camera - SamMobile | Aug 02 02:09 | |
| DaemonFC | The rise in atheism and irreligion in the US hasn't been because people are getting more intelligent and realizing "Hey, this is stupid.". It's because people are miserable. | Aug 02 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | You know, the suicide rate has almost doubled in that amount of time too. | Aug 02 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Drug overdose has tripled. | Aug 02 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | does that include clcohol? | Aug 02 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think I've seen the stats on that. | Aug 02 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or just non-legal (to use odd wording) narcotics | Aug 02 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | But STDs are at their worst levels ever according to CDC. | Aug 02 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | And they felt the need to tweet don't put your condoms in the dishwasher. | Aug 02 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I feel I need to make that into a song somehow. | Aug 02 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | cdc? | Aug 02 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to watch out what I eat in america restaurants then | Aug 02 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Centers for Disease "Control". They did a really bang up job with COVID. | Aug 02 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. the ones with dishwashers :=) | Aug 02 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Use a new one each time you engage in a different sex act!" | Aug 02 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks, I got this! | Aug 02 02:12 |
| techrights-news | #epo stenography https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=20221c0b-6498-4fb9-a4c1-663ce6e436ce rigging of this tribunal needs to be mentioned: http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ | Aug 02 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Emergency use only: limited ruling on when video conferencing can be imposed for EPO Appeal oral proceedings - Lexology | Aug 02 02:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPO’s Legitimacy | Techrights | Aug 02 02:13 | |
| DaemonFC | I know why the STD rate is exploding. | Aug 02 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | 1. People are getting nastier now than ever before. | Aug 02 02:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe they should use a sock | Aug 02 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | 2. PrEP has made people think they're in the clear, even though it's just (mostly) effective against HIV. | Aug 02 02:14 |
| AdmFubar | https://therecord.media/spyware-features-found-in-chinese-state-benefits-app/ | Aug 02 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Spyware features found in Chinese state benefits app - The Record by Recorded Future | Aug 02 02:14 | |
| DaemonFC | activelow was correct that the US has changed. | Aug 02 02:14 |
| schestowitz | and then put that in the laundry... not that penetration with a sock on would pleasure then, but maybe this way they'd just stop f;ing around | Aug 02 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | 30 years ago you generally didn't worry about where your kids were if you lived in a small town. | Aug 02 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | Now even the small towns are ghetto. | Aug 02 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Getting there. | Aug 02 02:15 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: CIA front | Aug 02 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Recorded Future | Aug 02 02:15 |
| schestowitz | they also spy on IRC | Aug 02 02:15 |
| schestowitz | so a case of projection | Aug 02 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Recorded Future talking about spying | Aug 02 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Your kids made a new friend? Talk to their parents for a bit and then have everyone over for dinner. Take turns on the Nintendo. | Aug 02 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe go fly a kite down at the park. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Now you have child soldiers. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Kids murdering kids. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago is a third world country. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Stay out! | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's like that in every Democrat-majority city, you know. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| MinceR | so it's not part of the USA anymore? | Aug 02 02:16 |
| MinceR | nice. | Aug 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's basically a city-state that everyone else in Illinois wants rid of. | Aug 02 02:17 |
| AdmFubar | https://therecord.media/python-team-fixes-bug-that-allowed-takeover-of-pypi-repository/ | Aug 02 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Python team fixes bug that allowed takeover of PyPI repository - The Record by Recorded Future | Aug 02 02:17 | |
| techrights-news | A flask of goo that moves to the groove | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/01/this-flask-of-goo-moves-to-the-groove/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | A flask of goo that moves to the groove | Arduino Blog | Aug 02 02:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 02 02:17 | |
| DaemonFC | It's pushed the rest of the state into debt for things that don't benefit anyone else and pushed liberal politics on people who don't want it. | Aug 02 02:17 |
| AdmFubar | "Flask of Goo" great name for a band... | Aug 02 02:18 |
| techrights-news | This magnetically levitated globe is an attractive piece of home decor | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/01/this-magnetically-levitated-globe-is-an-attractive-piece-of-home-decor/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This magnetically levitated globe is an attractive piece of home decor | Arduino Blog | Aug 02 02:18 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Neighborhood Scout rates cities on crime levels using 1 for most dangerous and 100 for safest. | Aug 02 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago, overall, has a score of 8, and when you consider that almost all of the crime happens in an area the size of a quarter of the city as a whole.... :) | Aug 02 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think the town mom lives in was like 76 or something. | Aug 02 02:19 |
| techrights-news | Squashing bogus #patents has become a business https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/portal-developer-updates-july-2021-reexams #uspto #swpats #fakepatents #unifiedpatents | Aug 02 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | July 2021 Developer Updates — Unified Patents | Aug 02 02:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Waukegan was like 18 iirc. | Aug 02 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Not great, but not Chicago either. | Aug 02 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | I guarantee you the current outbreak of COVID in Lake County is centered on Waukegan. | Aug 02 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | All these black people who won't get their vaccine. | Aug 02 02:20 |
| techrights-news | #nokia feeding #patentTrolls https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/30/wsou-213-reexamination-request-granted a #micorsoft legacy: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia | Aug 02 02:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | WSOU '213 reexamination request granted — Unified Patents | Aug 02 02:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nokia - Techrights | Aug 02 02:20 | |
| DaemonFC | The state has let it slip a few times that the lowest vaccination rate neighborhoods are majority black. | Aug 02 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | There, it can be as low as 20-25%. | Aug 02 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | Even though the county as a whole is like over 70% fully vaccinated now. | Aug 02 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically black people giving it to each other. | Aug 02 02:21 |
| techrights-news | Fake awards to fake law firms, which basically buy legitimacy from propaganda mills such as this (which they sponsor) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sxdfgp2bc80g/ip-stars-2021-firm-rankings-for-ip-transactions-work | Aug 02 02:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | IP STARS 2021: firm rankings for IP transactions work | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 02:21 | |
| DaemonFC | The state has done a pretty good job getting the vaccine to others or explaining why they should take it, but there's virtually no uptake in black neighborhoods. | Aug 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Then the news (leftists) felt they needed to excuse this with "They think it's the return of the Syphilis experiments!". | Aug 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh fucking really! Must be why 90% of white people are getting the vaccine. | Aug 02 02:22 |
| activelow | DaemonFC: vaccination of exactly what? | Aug 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | There's something really dodgy with it and it's a conspiracy to commit mass suicide. | Aug 02 02:23 |
| techrights-news | #nokia as a #patent parasite http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/daimler-reloaded-another-automotive.html it made products until #microsoft decided to crush it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia | Aug 02 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Daimler reloaded: another automotive company takes patent license from Nokia, which consistently insists on end-product-level licensing | Aug 02 02:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Worst conspiracy ever, in fact. | Aug 02 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | The conspirators conspired to conspire themselves to death. | Aug 02 02:23 |
| activelow | last week a though i would ask the local vaccination center in Nürberg, and had a phone call. | Aug 02 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | The news is blaming the wrong folks. | Aug 02 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | If America was 100% white, COVID would be yesterday's news. | Aug 02 02:24 |
| activelow | since on TV they say everyone should have received a vaccination offer. i didn't, not would i want to. | Aug 02 02:24 |
| techrights-news | Well, they should move to #gnu #linux then... instead they're being manoeuvred by #Microsoft #SouthAfrica [sic], which makes the country even poorer https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/opinion/sa-conflict-2021-ubuntu-is-part-of-the-south-african-dna-5bcf21b9-7273-4bf6-835b-b69b20bb69a6 | Aug 02 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iol.co.za | SA Conflict 2021: Ubuntu is part of the South African DNA | Aug 02 02:24 | |
| DaemonFC | At the levels of vaccine uptake among white people. | Aug 02 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | In January, during the worst of it (so far) if you saw anyone out there not wearing their masks, it was a black person. Usually a whole group of them. | Aug 02 02:25 |
| activelow | In Nürnberg they are offering the experimental "mRNA" stuff, moderna and biontech, none of which i would trust. | Aug 02 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | They had this whole "What are you gonna do about it!?" look on them too. | Aug 02 02:25 |
| techrights-news | #google and by extension the US government will keep all this data regardless. You ONLY HIDE IT FROM YOURSELF! https://www.maketecheasier.com/clear-web-browsing-history-android/ | Aug 02 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Clear the Web Browsing History on Your Android Device - Make Tech Easier | Aug 02 02:25 | |
| DaemonFC | But then again, nothing out of the usual there. | Aug 02 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | The first one to complain gets shot. :) | Aug 02 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | So, this whole shitshow just never ends. | Aug 02 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | [02:24] <DaemonFC> If America was 100% white, COVID would be yesterday's news. | Aug 02 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | BS and OT | Aug 02 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | covid deniers are mosly american whites | Aug 02 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | That's simply not true. | Aug 02 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Look at vaccination rates in Chicago neighborhoods. | Aug 02 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | in Germany it's people who gravitates towards right-leaning parties | Aug 02 02:27 |
| activelow | yes, only moderate right-wing remained credible. | Aug 02 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | CDPH released neighborhood by neighborhood percentages. | Aug 02 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | And it's always the fucking ghetto ones where it's like really low. | Aug 02 02:28 |
| activelow | which is only a small minority remaining: maybe 10% of the entire population, who would at least read and think some newspaper. | Aug 02 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Despite the fact that they can get it for free on every corner. | Aug 02 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you use covid for racism, DaemonFC | Aug 02 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so wtfu | Aug 02 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *stfu | Aug 02 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Frankly, I'm beyond annoyed that we're still dealing with this and that the blame is being shifted to the only people you can still blame for everything. | Aug 02 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | two BS narratives: | Aug 02 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Even Felta got his vaccine. | Aug 02 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who reject vaccines are anti-science or right wingers | Aug 02 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | or some "ethinic" smear | Aug 02 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Felta consults psychics and just got banned from Facebook for 30 days for all sorts of reasons. | Aug 02 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, back to tech... | Aug 02 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | And HE got his vaccine while the news and the public health authorities say you just can't get black people in there. | Aug 02 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and patents etc. | Aug 02 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Statistics are not racist. | Aug 02 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | poor people are more sceptical of vaccines | Aug 02 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | You may not be happy with them, but they're not racist. | Aug 02 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in the US race and poverty have a correlation | Aug 02 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | You don't use condoms, you get 9x the rate of syphilis and gonorrhea as those who do. | Aug 02 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | YOu don't get your COVID shot, you get COVID. | Aug 02 02:31 |
| techrights-news | This Week in Linux 162: Framework Laptop, Pop!_OS Rolling Release, Linux Mint, WayDroid https://tuxdigital.com/2021/08/thisweekinlinux-162/ | Aug 02 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-162: Framework Laptop, Pop!_OS Rolling Release, Linux Mint, WayDroid | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital | Aug 02 02:31 | |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I think they should start separating the "positive for the virus" and "COVID" into two separate columns. Four actually. One for vaccinated and unvaccinated too. | Aug 02 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Report it on a web page. | Aug 02 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | At this point just being positive for the virus doesn't seem to matter all that much if you have your vaccine. | Aug 02 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | COVID is short for "Coronavirus Disease" and if it's not harming you, I don't know if "Disease" is the right thing to call it. | Aug 02 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | Infection, sure. Disease. Maybe not. | Aug 02 02:33 |
| activelow | the diseases is the fake news | Aug 02 02:34 |
| techrights-news | Since when does #Microsoft get to tell us anything about security (while shilling projects it controls in #GitHub )? https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/08/01/episode-282-the-security-of-rust-who-left-all-this-awesome-in-here/ http://techrights.org/2021/07/25/lectures-from-microsoft/ | Aug 02 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 282 – The security of Rust: who left all this awesome in here? – Open Source Security | Aug 02 02:34 | |
| DaemonFC | It's sort of like early HIV pandemic when they were just using "AIDS" for everyone who got it. | Aug 02 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No, Microsoft Does Not Get to Lecture Us on GNU/Linux Security (or Security in General) | Techrights | Aug 02 02:34 | |
| DaemonFC | Didn't really matter. Usually by the time you knew about it, it was AIDS and nothing to be done, and dead in <5 years. | Aug 02 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | Now the distinction between HIV and AIDS matters, so there is one. | Aug 02 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | Vaccinated people are almost certainly going to be "Coronavirus carriers" for a week or two and not even notice. | Aug 02 02:35 |
| techrights-news | "According to the Steam Survey numbers out today for July 2021, Steam on Linux hit a 1.0% marketshare, or a +0.14% increase over the month prior." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Steam-Linux-July-2021 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/03/statcounter-may-2021/ | Aug 02 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Survey Shows Linux Marketshare Hitting 1.0% - Phoronix | Aug 02 02:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | StatCounter: In May 2021 Windows Market Share Falls Sharply to Just 28%, Whereas GNU/Linux Climbs to 2.31% in Desktops/Laptops | Techrights | Aug 02 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC | The plague victims are the ones who didn't get the vaccine and go overflow the hospital and then we've got refrigerator trucks for the bodies again. | Aug 02 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | At this point there's a choice and that makes getting COVID almsot a moral failing, doesn't it? | Aug 02 02:36 |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 02 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 01, 2021 | Aug 02 02:36 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM "try to force #centos users to become IBM clients" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010821.html#tAug%2001%2000:08:24 | Aug 02 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 01, 2021 | Aug 02 02:37 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 02 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 01, 2021 | Aug 02 02:37 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 02 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 01, 2021 | Aug 02 02:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Facebook says a link to Richard Stallman's personal website goes against their community standards. | Aug 02 02:39 |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 02 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 01, 2021 | Aug 02 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | "The UK High Court has held that an insulin pump product owned by Roche Diabetes Care does not infringe a patent of US medical device company Insulet (case no: HP-2020-000026)." #patent #patents #uk https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/roche-diabetes-and-wilmerhale-rebut-insulin-pump-infringement-claim-in-london/ | Aug 02 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Roche Diabetes and WilmerHale rebut insulin pump infringement claim in London - JUVE Patent | Aug 02 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-01.txt | Aug 02 02:40 |
| techrights-news | Pumping up shares with bubbles and fake "property" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sx1g25dh7p71/putting-the-ip-in-ipos-how-counsel-help-companies-go-public when #patent hoarders and #litigation firms fund a publication... | Aug 02 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Putting the IP in IPOs: how counsel help companies go public | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 02:40 | |
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| activelow | i doubt "covid" as a univariate morbidity indicator is scientifically, uhm, verified | Aug 02 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | The official narrative is that "inequality" is killing black people with COVID at higher rates. | Aug 02 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | But offering the vaccine for free to everyone on every street corner in America is pretty equitable, wouldn't you say? | Aug 02 02:44 |
| techrights-news | #copyright #cartel in #security clothing http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/austrian-supreme-court-refers-further.html | Aug 02 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Austrian Supreme Court refers further questions for a preliminary ruling on the InfoSoc Directive - The IPKat | Aug 02 02:44 | |
| techrights-news | "The alternative procedure, namely that of mutual recognition, requires the application of strict conditions, such as the MA application for a given medicinal product in one Member State with the objective to recognize that specific MA in yet other Member States. The factual situation in the case at hand does not meet these requirements." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/medicines-directive-interpreted-by-cjeu.html | Aug 02 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Medicines Directive interpreted by the CJEU in an interesting new ruling C-178/20 - The IPKat | Aug 02 02:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | It's a lopsided problem. You're dealing with a combined 30% of America's population where 80 or 85% of them won't take the vaccine. | Aug 02 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | So they're really punching above their weight when it comes to keeping this thing burning. | Aug 02 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Fauci came out today and said "100 million Americans or so are eligible and won't take it.". Didn't go further than that. But, yeah. | Aug 02 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | The government is panicking. They say maybe FDA approval will solve some of the problem. Yeah, that's going to fix "nuts" and "stupid". | Aug 02 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | Just slap "FDA approved on it". They'll come around. | Aug 02 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't see how. I mean, short of arresting people and forcing them to take the vaccine, we've hit bedrock. | Aug 02 02:52 |
| techrights-news | Very slippery slope in #SouthAfrica https://www.law360.com/articles/1407508/south-africa-issues-world-s-first-patent-with-ai-inventor http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa | Aug 02 02:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Africa Issues World's First Patent With AI Inventor - Law360 | Aug 02 02:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in South Africa - Techrights | Aug 02 02:55 | |
| techrights-news | It's not an inventor at all, that's just #patent maximalism at work, trying to make conflicts and legal wars because they profit from chaos https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/south-africa-issues-worlds-first-patent-naming-ai-as-inventor/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa | Aug 02 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mathys-squire.com | South Africa issues world's first patent naming AI as inventor - Mathys & Squire LLP | Aug 02 02:57 | |
| techrights-news | #marketing #spam in 'article' clothing (far too common in the #patent #litigation domain) https://whoswholegal.com/analysis/ip-2021---patent-agents--attorneys---legal-marketplace-analysis | Aug 02 02:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whoswholegal - Analysis - IP 2021 - Patent Agents & Attorneys - Legal Marketplace Analysis | Aug 02 02:58 | |
| techrights-news | #Xfce "Welcome back. This is my last (or second to last) blog post for this year's Google Summer of Code with Xfce and Thunar. Unlike previous weeks this time I have only one new thing to talk to you about. Searching in Thunar." http://users.uoa.gr/~sdi1800073/sources/xfce_blog04.html | Aug 02 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-users.uoa.gr | Σέργιος - Ανέστης Κεφαλίδης | Aug 02 03:00 | |
| techrights-news | "At the end of July, I had some days off and some more time to focus on some unreproducible packages in Arch Linux and get some of the issues resolved. This post goes through the resolved issues by category." https://vdwaa.nl/arch-repro-july-2021.html | Aug 02 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vdwaa.nl | Jelly's blog – Arch Reproducible Progress July 2021 | Aug 02 03:02 | |
| techrights-news | Emmanuele Bassi: Documenting GNOME for developers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154046 GNOME breaking backward compatibility for its Web site/s too. Consistent with GNOME and GTK breakage. | Aug 02 03:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmanuele Bassi: Documenting GNOME for developers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 03:05 | |
| techrights-news | A "flush it all down and let's start all over again" in web/dev context is an admission and acceptance of defeat, looking for quick and easy ways out. A form of laziness. | Aug 02 03:06 |
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| Ariadne | schestowitz-TR: well | Aug 02 03:07 |
| Ariadne | i think in terms of techrights | Aug 02 03:07 |
| Ariadne | flush it all down and restart | Aug 02 03:07 |
| Ariadne | is probably a good idea | Aug 02 03:07 |
| Ariadne | since it's a lot of PHP applications glued together in strange ways | Aug 02 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 34278 total • Total pages: 36944 • Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 1 months 24 days ago | Aug 02 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.7 GB • TotalOut: 446 MB | Aug 02 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID | Aug 02 03:08 |
| techrights-news | #DennisCrouch is still concern-trolling #PTAB , in pursuit of #patent maximalist agenda (maximising lawsuits). He's sponsored by a #litigation giant. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/recent-utility-decisions.html http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/ | Aug 02 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Three recent Utility Decisions at the PTAB | Patently-O | Aug 02 03:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights | Aug 02 03:09 | |
| AdmFubar | https://techcrunch.com/2021/07/31/2184325/ | Aug 02 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The pandemic effect is slowing – TechCrunch | Aug 02 03:09 | |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: if done right, urls can be preserved | Aug 02 03:09 |
| Ariadne | sure | Aug 02 03:09 |
| schestowitz | e.g. making static pages | Aug 02 03:09 |
| schestowitz | unlike what gnome does atm | Aug 02 03:10 |
| Ariadne | i'm just saying, the current architecture of techrights | Aug 02 03:10 |
| Ariadne | needs to be burned to the ground | Aug 02 03:10 |
| Ariadne | :p | Aug 02 03:10 |
| schestowitz | not just techrights btw | Aug 02 03:10 |
| schestowitz | loads of sites like it | Aug 02 03:10 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmNSNxDGf8uW24qwfnLjXrvXVvHmUMuSgb1HJu756yHhud | Aug 02 03:10 |
| schestowitz | my own site is mostly static pages | Aug 02 03:10 |
| schestowitz | so it was easy to maintain all those years... | Aug 02 03:11 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: they only cite rich people | Aug 02 03:11 |
| schestowitz | and companies | Aug 02 03:12 |
| schestowitz | typical wsj/murdoch slant | Aug 02 03:12 |
| schestowitz | the rich are doing ok | Aug 02 03:12 |
| schestowitz | hence, the nation is ok | Aug 02 03:12 |
| schestowitz | never mind the people out of wor | Aug 02 03:12 |
| schestowitz | they're all just "lazy" | Aug 02 03:12 |
| techrights-news | #Trademarks on STICKS https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/trademark-product-functional.html #Trademark #Law | Aug 02 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Trademark on Product Design: Are these biscuit sticks functional | Patently-O | Aug 02 03:13 | |
| schestowitz | another 2 talking points: | Aug 02 03:14 |
| schestowitz | 1. THE MARKET IS HOT!! | Aug 02 03:14 |
| schestowitz | 2. Unemployment is low. Elephant in the room: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workforce | Aug 02 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Workforce - Wikipedia | Aug 02 03:14 | |
| schestowitz | "As of 2010 in the United States, 123 million women age 16 years and over have worked in the U.S., 72 million, or 58.6 percent, were working or looking for work." | Aug 02 03:15 |
| schestowitz | So a lot of this growth was, lower wages | Aug 02 03:16 |
| schestowitz | add more people | Aug 02 03:16 |
| schestowitz | leave more people unemployed | Aug 02 03:16 |
| schestowitz | and then we wonder why the rich get so much richer so fast | Aug 02 03:16 |
| schestowitz | we give them all the capital! | Aug 02 03:16 |
| Ariadne | sure | Aug 02 03:17 |
| techrights-news | The war on #PTAB goes on, boosted by people who favour #fakepatents and frivolous #litigation https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/supreme-discretionary-denials.html http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/ | Aug 02 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Supreme Court Called Again to Review IPR Appeal: This time on Discretionary Denials | Patently-O | Aug 02 03:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights | Aug 02 03:18 | |
| techrights-news | Better than Dennis Crouch's race-baiting against #cafc judges whose decisions he did not like https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/congratulations-judge-omalley.html | Aug 02 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Congratulations Judge O'Malley | Aug 02 03:19 | |
| techrights-news | #PostgreSQL Weekly News - August 1, 2021: "PostgreSQL Weekly News is brought to you this week by David Fetter" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-weekly-news-august-1-2021-2267/ | Aug 02 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Weekly News - August 1, 2021 | Aug 02 03:23 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If Mandy and I get the shit end of the stick all the time and still manage to do okay most of the time, I don't see what these people are complaining about. | Aug 02 03:24 |
| techrights-news | #LinuxActionNews once again engaging in #Microsoft #apologism and boosting, perhaps as the owners of the show would demand http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/ | Aug 02 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesn’t Care About GNU/Linux and Now It’s Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights | Aug 02 03:24 | |
| DaemonFC | They got 18 months of more pay than if they worked. | Aug 02 03:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | take that to #techpol | Aug 02 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | Then they got 6 months of rent that they could have paid but didn't paid for them by the state. | Aug 02 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | Free food. Free internet. Free Medicaid. | Aug 02 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | Then all they want to do is complain about all the time off and free money. | Aug 02 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | Now the rest of us get to deal with hyperinflation for putting all of these fine folks in a hammock. | Aug 02 03:26 |
| techrights-news | #patent #Monopolies versus #accessToMedicines https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/patents-drug-availability.html #patents #monopoly | Aug 02 03:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Patents and Drug Availability | Patently-O | Aug 02 03:26 | |
| DaemonFC | The only way Joe Biden could or would ever win an election is against Donald Trump or at least someone as retarded and crass as Trump. | Aug 02 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | It was like Biden was put up in the debates to be a muppet that couldn't take a swing at Trump and he still won somehow. | Aug 02 03:27 |
| techrights-news | #AnalyticsIndiaMagazine ... one day it's #microsoft #propaganda (deliberate lies), then it devolves into #plutophilia https://analyticsindiamag.com/elon-musk-neuralink-funding-modi-india-ai-for-all/ | Aug 02 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | Musk’s Neuralink Raises Money, India’s AI for All & More:Top Weekly News | Aug 02 03:27 | |
| DaemonFC | I voted for him, wasn't expecting him to win.... Wasn't entirely confident that Trump would leave after he lost. | Aug 02 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | In many ways, we're better off, in many ways we're just as bad off. | Aug 02 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | Trump signed plenty of the bills that wasted all of this money and he did it because he didn't want to have a full blown uprising where people would have removed him months before the election. | Aug 02 03:29 |
| techrights-news | The #patent system and patent #law hijacked for an entirely different agenda that does not reward #science and #innovation at all https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-01/historic-decision-allows-ai-to-be-recognised-as-an-inventor/100339264 | Aug 02 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Artificial intelligence can now be recognised as an inventor after historic Australian court decision - ABC News | Aug 02 03:29 | |
| techrights-news | THANK YOU FOR PATENTING! https://journalnow.com/business/local/philip-morris-usa-halts-u-s-expansion-of-heat-not-burn-traditional-cigarettes/article_22cbd4f4-f079-11eb-8c4a-a3b3bee8b682.html | Aug 02 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Philip Morris USA halts U.S. expansion of heat-not-burn traditional cigarettes | Local | journalnow.com | Aug 02 03:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it is OT | Aug 02 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | But the whole shutdown/lockdown "30 days to slow the spread" that went on for over a year and here we are still in the thick of it. It was political. | Aug 02 03:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | take that to an apprporate channel pls | Aug 02 03:30 |
| techrights-news | Pretentious lawyers from #london misuse the word "piracy" https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1096504/bpi-gives-summary-of-agreement-by-creative-industries-and-social-media-firms-on-new-anti-piracy-measures-at-government-roundtable-discussion it's usually their firms that steal the most | Aug 02 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | BPI Gives Summary Of Agreement By Creative Industries And Social Media Firms On New Anti-piracy Measures At Government Roundtable Discussion - Intellectual Property - UK | Aug 02 03:33 | |
| techrights-news | No, there is no such thing as "intellectual property rights" ()several different lies in that term) and monopolies are not a "portfolio"; it's rather revealing who these people front for... https://www.udl.co.uk/insights/how-to-manage-your-patent-portfolio | Aug 02 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.udl.co.uk | How to manage your patent portfolio | Aug 02 03:35 | |
| techrights-news | Opposing unjust #monopolies isn't a weapon and #justice is not a war https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/portfolio-management/opposition-underestimated-weapon This is a gross reversal of narratives to make victims seem like aggressors. | Aug 02 03:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldtrademarkreview.com | Opposition – an underestimated weapon | World Trademark Review | Aug 02 03:36 | |
| techrights-news | Given the awful quality of today's #EuropeanPatents , this does not deserve a press release https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kane-biotech-receives-decisions-grant-120000161.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/ | Aug 02 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Kane Biotech Receives Decisions to Grant for Two European Patents Providing Broad Protection of coactiv+™ Technology for Wound Care, Skin Infections and Personal Care Formulations | Aug 02 03:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights | Aug 02 03:38 | |
| techrights-news | Review: Pacstall - AUR for Ubuntu • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154047 | Aug 02 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Pacstall - AUR for Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Aug 02 03:42 | |
| techrights-news | Crouch still trying to create a rift between #CAFC and #PTAB https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/adequate-administrative-procedures.html see http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc | Aug 02 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Adequate Notice and the Administrative Procedures Act | Patently-O | Aug 02 03:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights | Aug 02 03:45 | |
| techrights-news | If #taxpayers and #tuition fees funded it, they ought not pursue #patents in the first place, let alone pass these to trolls https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.2.20210730a/full/ | Aug 02 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-physicstoday.scitation.org | | Aug 02 03:46 | |
| techrights-news | #Patent #law bordering on the laughable now. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the original purpose of the law. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210729/Worlds-first-patent-for-AI-generated-invention-could-have-repercussions-on-intellectual-property-law.aspx | Aug 02 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news-medical.net | World's first patent for AI-generated invention could have repercussions on intellectual property law | Aug 02 03:48 | |
| techrights-news | The "hey hi" hype and other nonsense as justification for #patent maximalists, irrespective of any actual benefits to society https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/officials-approve-worlds-first-patent-to-credit-an-ai-as-inventor-351488 | Aug 02 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologynetworks.com | Officials Approve World's First Patent to Credit an AI as Inventor | Technology Networks | Aug 02 03:49 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/08/pfizer-court-fight-could-legalize-medicare-copays-and-unleash-gold-rush-in-sales.html | Aug 02 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Pfizer Court Fight Could Legalize Medicare Copays and Unleash ‘Gold Rush’ in Sales | naked capitalism | Aug 02 03:50 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/wolf-richter-after-slashing-33-of-workers-in-6-years-railroads-complain-about-labor-shortages-amid-uproar-over-slow-shipments.html | Aug 02 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Wolf Richter: After Slashing 33% of Workers in 6 Years, Railroads Complain about Labor Shortages, amid Uproar over Slow Shipments | naked capitalism | Aug 02 03:50 | |
| techrights-news | "HEY HI" and "HI PEE"; more useless buzzwords along with "life sciences" (to pretend nature and life are somehow "inventions" https://latinalliance.co/en/the-impact-of-ai-on-life-sciences-for-in-house-ip-teams/ see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/ | Aug 02 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latinalliance.co | The impact of AI on life sciences for in-house IP teams - LatinAlliance | Aug 02 03:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Term ‘Life Science’ Has Outlived Its Usefulness | Techrights | Aug 02 03:51 | |
| techrights-news | #fakeEconomy #poorShaming https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/wolf-richter-after-slashing-33-of-workers-in-6-years-railroads-complain-about-labor-shortages-amid-uproar-over-slow-shipments.html | Aug 02 03:53 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/08/is-the-soil-an-ecosystem-service-that-can-be-priced.html | Aug 02 03:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Is the Soil an "Ecosystem Service" That Can Be Priced? | naked capitalism | Aug 02 03:53 | |
| techrights-news | #monopoly #patents #grifting https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/08/pfizer-court-fight-could-legalize-medicare-copays-and-unleash-gold-rush-in-sales.html | Aug 02 03:54 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: [10:06] <techrights-news> Pinnacle of 21st century capitalism: few people becoming millionaires or even billionaires for packing water and soil inside plastics, then selling that plastic for like 1-3 dollars apiece. "SUCCESS" !! | Aug 02 03:54 |
| schestowitz | from yesterday | Aug 02 03:54 |
| schestowitz | in aldi it's 1.99 for a bag of soil | Aug 02 03:55 |
| schestowitz | plastic with dirt in it | Aug 02 03:55 |
| schestowitz | some people carve rocks | Aug 02 03:55 |
| AdmFubar | you mean dirt with plastic in it. | Aug 02 03:55 |
| schestowitz | then sell that for like 20 pounds a rock | Aug 02 03:55 |
| schestowitz | nature does not get "commissions" :-) | Aug 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: lol, yes, that too | Aug 02 03:56 |
| AdmFubar | some don't even carve them... them just sell them as pet rocks.. | Aug 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | plastic with dirt with micro-plastics in it | Aug 02 03:56 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/artificial-intelligence-wants-you-and-your-job.html | Aug 02 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Artificial Intelligence Wants You (and Your Job) | naked capitalism | Aug 02 03:56 | |
| schestowitz | worms not included, yet... | Aug 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: they mean automation | Aug 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | not "HEY HI" | Aug 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | whatever it even means these days... | Aug 02 03:57 |
| AdmFubar | off to view the insides of my eyelids.... | Aug 02 03:59 |
| AdmFubar | night all | Aug 02 03:59 |
| techrights-news | "Over the decades (sigh) I’ve been involved in various capacities in cases where practitioners have missed deadlines" https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/07/deadlines-thoughts-practices.html #patent #lawyers just don't care. $200 an hour, cannot get the basics right... | Aug 02 03:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Deadlines: Thoughts for Good and Bad Practices? | Aug 02 03:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Nestle invaded Michigan and makes billions selling water in plastic and plastic in water to people like MARISOL. | Aug 02 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | They get it all in exchange for paying like $100 a year to the state. | Aug 02 04:01 |
| techrights-news | #JoeMatal moved from #USPTO leadership (interim) to the private sector, highlighting sever issues like #revolvingdoors https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/29/webinar-materials-truly-inventive-improving-the-quality-of-issued-patents | Aug 02 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Webinar Materials - Truly Inventive: Improving the Quality of Issued Patents — Unified Patents | Aug 02 04:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Q: What kind of fucking idiot buys water in plastic bottles when you get the best water in the country already? | Aug 02 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | A: MARISOL | Aug 02 04:02 |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights | Aug 02 04:02 | |
| techrights-news | #germany doors open to #patentTrolls and other parasites that feed #de based #law firms http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/dusseldorf-appeals-court-narrowly.html | Aug 02 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Dusseldorf appeals court narrowly avoids divergent outcomes in Via v. TCL patent cases concerning Sisvel v. Haier FRAND defense, deems TCL unwilling either way | Aug 02 04:02 | |
| DaemonFC | If it just tastes a little off, you can run it through a cheap filter and put it in the fridge. | Aug 02 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | At least that way you get 40 gallons or so out of a $4 filter instead of 5 gallons that you lug home for $6. | Aug 02 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The Tondo Queen likes conspicuous consumption. | Aug 02 04:05 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, August 01, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Aug 02 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Aug 02 04:08 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Aug 02 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Aug 02 04:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: real churchill quote? | Aug 02 04:10 |
| MinceR | dunno, found it on goodreads.com | Aug 02 04:10 |
| techrights-news | #greenwashing #Trademarks http://blog.galalaw.com/post/102h42k/trademarks-eco-friendly-whats-new-in-poland #Trademark #Law #Poland | Aug 02 04:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.galalaw.com | Trademarks "Eco-friendly" What's New in Poland?, Ewa Tefelska | Aug 02 04:11 | |
| techrights-news | No, it does not "Set Precedent for IP [sic] Laws Everywhere" because that's just the nature of different places having different laws; and #patent maximalists are jubilant about another blow to the credibility of a crooked system https://www.techtimes.com/articles/263517/20210729/ai-invention-gets-patent-world-first-sets-precedent-ip-laws.htm | Aug 02 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | AI Invention Gets Patent In a World First; Sets Precedent for IP Laws Everywhere | Tech Times | Aug 02 04:13 | |
| techrights-news | "two inventors who were finalists of the European Inventor Award 2019, organized by the European Patent Office (EPO)." = Two people were exploited by criminals who engage in #corruption at the #epo as a #reputationlaundering distraction https://emag.directindustry.com/d3o-making-an-impact-in-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-glove-worker-safety-materials/ | Aug 02 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-emag.directindustry.com | D3O: Making an Impact in Personal Protective Equipment - DirectIndustry e-Magazine | Aug 02 04:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Smart Cash Registers" = NOT smart. Just another spammy promotion with intentionally misleading labels. https://domestic-violence.org.uk/uncategorised/50136/smart-cash-registers-market-expectation-surges-with-rising-demand-and-changing-trends/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/ | Aug 02 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-domestic-violence.org.uk | Smart Cash Registers Market Expectation Surges with Rising Demand and Changing Trends – Domestic Violence | Aug 02 04:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Self-Service’ is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights | Aug 02 04:17 | |
| techrights-news | "The recall is being issued due to the potential presence of small plastic pieces in the product, officials say." Wait, #plastic is BAD for you??? https://hudsonvalleypost.com/supermarket-with-many-hudson-valley-new-york-stores-recalls-item/ | Aug 02 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hudsonvalleypost.com | Supermarket With Hudson Valley, New York Stores Recalls 15 Items | Aug 02 04:19 | |
| techrights-news | #Lawyers or #litigation people won't mind if you claim to "own" the Sky, too https://www.managingip.com/article/b1swwb1jx0h5vz/sky-v-skykick-door-open-for-broad-brands-but-caution-remains #trademark | Aug 02 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Sky v SkyKick: door open for broad brands, but caution remains | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:20 | |
| DaemonFC | There's a canned pheasant hunt going on downstate. | Aug 02 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | I hope someone invited Dick Cheney.....for the lulz. | Aug 02 04:22 |
| techrights-news | Speaking of Sky and #monopolies http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/28/promptu-systems-corporation-v-sky-uk-limited-and-others-19-july-2021-case-no-2021-ewhc-2021-pat/ | Aug 02 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Promptu Systems Corporation V Sky UK Limited And Others, 19 July 2021, Case No. [2021] EWHC 2021 (Pat) - Kluwer Patent Blog | Aug 02 04:22 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, What kind of a sick fuck grabs a shotgun and goes after some birds that can't even fly, in a fenced area, and calls it hunting? | Aug 02 04:22 |
| techrights-news | Given the EU's tolerance and cover-up of #epo crimes, these GIs might get associated with #corruption rather than value https://www.managingip.com/article/b1swgmb34bjhvm/counsel-weigh-up-options-as-eu-eyes-enhanced-gi-protection see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO | Aug 02 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Counsel weigh up options as EU eyes enhanced GI protection | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Aug 02 04:24 | |
| techrights-news | Fails to note that European Patents aren't often legitimate (not anymore) because the law isn't being obeyed. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cavitation-technologies-inc-cvat-significantly-140000146.html | Aug 02 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Cavitation Technologies, Inc. (CVAT) Significantly Expands Patent Portfolio | Aug 02 04:25 | |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem like there's much sport in it. | Aug 02 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | You're not hunting things. You're just walking up to an animal that someone put there and shooting it. | Aug 02 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds pretty messed up. | Aug 02 04:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we talked about it yesterday | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | some places in africa call it "sport" | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "play" | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | euphemisms for murder-> hunting | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Hans Reister | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | locked up for "play" | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "sport" with the wife | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hunting" | Aug 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Reiser | Aug 02 04:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | humans are good at making up excuses | Aug 02 04:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "cull" | Aug 02 04:28 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Install Damn Vulnerable Web Application on #RockLinux 8 - LinuxCapable ⚓ https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-damn-vulnerable-web-application-on-rock-linux-8/ ䷉ #linuxcapable | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-damn-vulnerable-web-application-on-rock-linux-8/ ) | Aug 02 04:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 02 04:29 | |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Josh Bressers on Security, and This Week in Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154048 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Josh Bressers on Security, and This Week in Linux | Tux Machines | Aug 02 04:31 | |
| techrights-news | #diffutils 3.8 released [stable] • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154049 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | diffutils-3.8 released [stable] | Tux Machines | Aug 02 04:34 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154050 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 02 04:34 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> euphemisms for murder-> hunting | Aug 02 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | Well, my uncle hunts, but it's an actual hunt, like for deer. | Aug 02 04:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | can the deer fight back? | Aug 02 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | And he does take the meat and freeze it, and they eat it all. | Aug 02 04:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | does your uncle have to eat just deer? | Aug 02 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | I ate some of it once while we were down there. They aren't very well to do, so they do a lot of things themselves. | Aug 02 04:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he take a live and healthy animal to turn it into his "property" | Aug 02 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | If you hunt for meat, you don't spend money at the meat counter at the store. | Aug 02 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | The deer are overpopulated. | Aug 02 04:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and humans? | Aug 02 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | They starve if the population gets too high, and there's more to hit with your cars. | Aug 02 04:37 |
| techrights-news | #Steam Survey Shows Linux Marketshare Hitting 1.0% • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154051 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Survey Shows Linux Marketshare Hitting 1.0% | Tux Machines | Aug 02 04:37 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, You don't like hamburgers? | Aug 02 04:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Aug 02 04:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ask bill(tm) | Aug 02 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | he sells patented stuff | Aug 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty sure hamburger is a code. | Aug 02 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | because he could not patent cows | Aug 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | They're on to pizza. | Aug 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | So off to hamburgers. | Aug 02 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, EPO gives patents on bred pigs | Aug 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I made some hamburgers the other day. | Aug 02 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | pizza is also pedo code | Aug 02 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, child for sex | Aug 02 04:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | male | Aug 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | We don't buy too much red meat at the store anymore unless it's a markdown, and those are rare. It's mostly chicken. | Aug 02 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | Oh god, and chicken is code too. | Aug 02 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | People are perverts. | Aug 02 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Someone bought the Rick Jones condo in January. | Aug 02 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | Paid like $440,000-ish for it I think. | Aug 02 04:40 |
| techrights-news | They mean #monopolies on designs. Yes, monopoly is good for #monopoly "owner"... https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/portfolio-management/the-economic-value-of-designs | Aug 02 04:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldtrademarkreview.com | The economic value of designs | World Trademark Review | Aug 02 04:40 | |
| techrights-news | When tech events get hijacked by #patent aggressors looking for a buck by terrifying people or stealing inventories http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/28/low-level-of-judicial-activity-during-the-2021-mobile-world-congress/ | Aug 02 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Low level of judicial activity during the 2021 Mobile World Congress - Kluwer Patent Blog | Aug 02 04:41 | |
| techrights-news | #Pfizer #monopolies #greed #anda https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sx28sw0fkk6c/anda-cases-will-hit-decade-low-suggests-h1-2021-data | Aug 02 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | ANDA cases will hit decade low, suggests H1 2021 data | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:43 | |
| techrights-news | #eu promoting #monopolies and propping up misleading #propaganda terms, then wonders why there's resistance to it (it also covers up #EPO crimes) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sx0hhjsrpjj1/counsel-eu-ip-support-schemes-for-smes-lack-winning-formula see http://techrights.org/2020/12/01/the-breton-coverup/ | Aug 02 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Counsel: EU IP support schemes for SMEs lack ‘winning formula’ | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Commission’s Thierry Breton Covers Up EPO Corruption For His Friend Benoît Battistelli | Techrights | Aug 02 04:45 | |
| techrights-news | "Judge Kathleen O'Malley will retire from the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in March 2022, it was announced on Wednesday, July 28." https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sxf09rfh6n2d/this-week-in-ip-skykick-opens-door-for-brands-ip-heart-of-uk-innovation-interdigital-beats-lenovo http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit_%28CAFC%29 | Aug 02 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: SkyKick opens door for brands, IP ‘heart’ of UK innovation, InterDigital beats Lenovo | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) - Techrights | Aug 02 04:48 | |
| *job has quit (connection closed) | Aug 02 04:48 | |
| techrights-news | By "Sources" they mean sponsors and they moan for "interested parties during litigation" i.e. international law firms rather than people of India. This is a propaganda mill for colonialism through unjust laws, imposed by blackmailing officials https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sxtnp9z1c1h2/india-counsel-call-for-design-system-overhaul | Aug 02 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | India counsel call for design system overhaul | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:50 | |
| techrights-news | Truly ridiculous: Why might an Australian Applicant consider nominating the Korean International Search Authority (KR-ISA)? https://www.patentsandtrademarks.com.au/why-might-an-australian-applicant-consider-nominating-the-korean-international-search-authority-kr-isa/ | Aug 02 04:51 |
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| techrights-news | #China turning a broken system against itself, first in #patents and now in #trademarks . Get popcorn. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sxy162pbyrt5/trademark-surge-at-uspto-stifles-madrid-and-pharma-filers | Aug 02 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Trademark surge at USPTO stifles Madrid and pharma filers | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 04:52 | |
| techrights-news | Truly ridiculous #trademarks we've sunk to... https://www.thefashionlaw.com/puma-has-withdrawn-its-opposition-in-fight-over-nikes-footware-trademark/ | Aug 02 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/puma-has-withdrawn-its-opposition-in-fight-over-nikes-footware-trademark/ ) | Aug 02 04:55 | |
| techrights-news | Monopolies on simple names (generic) http://trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/23/ok-everyone-knows-messi-but-miley-cyrus/ | Aug 02 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com | OK. Everyone knows MESSI. But Miley Cyrus? - Kluwer Trademark Blog | Aug 02 04:56 | |
| techrights-news | There is no such thing as #intellectualproperty (it's a delivberate falsehood) so it is a false category and moreover this site is broken. Blank pages unless you run some #ProprietarySoftware from untrusted party https://bookauthority.org/books/new-intellectual-property-books | Aug 02 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bookauthority.org | 21 Best New Intellectual Property Books To Read In 2021 - BookAuthority | Aug 02 04:59 | |
| techrights-news | Latest Arduino Projects • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154052 | Aug 02 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Arduino Projects | Tux Machines | Aug 02 05:00 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: source for the house/apartment sale? | Aug 02 05:00 |
| techrights-news | Thugs and liars from #BirdandBird fancy themselves "design" (monopoly) experts https://www.citma.org.uk/resources/eu-designs-update.html see http://techrights.org/2020/09/20/ads-as-podcasts/ and http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debian-threats-bird-and-bird/ | Aug 02 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.citma.org.uk | CITMA - EU designs update | Aug 02 05:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Epitaph for (Death of) Patent-Centric Media: Litigation Giant Bird & Bird Nowadays Doing Ads as ‘Podcasts’ in Think Tank Site ‘Managing IP’ | Techrights | Aug 02 05:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief | Techrights | Aug 02 05:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Zillow I think. | Aug 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Said it sold in January. | Aug 02 05:02 |
| schestowitz | who from? | Aug 02 05:03 |
| schestowitz | maybe he already left | Aug 02 05:03 |
| schestowitz | and was renting | Aug 02 05:03 |
| schestowitz | maybe hiding under some rock with financial support from Famous Criminal(R) | Aug 02 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't say from/to. | Aug 02 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | Just January something. | Aug 02 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/1530-NW-Market-St-98107/unit-211/home/17381899 | Aug 02 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-1530 NW Market St #211, Seattle, WA 98107 | MLS# 1653886 | Redfin | Aug 02 05:05 | |
| DaemonFC | This home last sold for $440,000 on Jan 28, 2021. | Aug 02 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | ANyway, gotta go to bed now. | Aug 02 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | gn | Aug 02 05:05 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▃▅▅▅▁▅▅▅▄▃▅▁▆▅▄▄▆▃▄▅▅▆▅▄▂▃▅▄▃▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 29.36 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▁▂▁▂▁▂█▁▂▁▁▁▁█▂▁▁▁▃▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▃▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 96.16▕ swarm size (avg): 283.38 ⟲ | Aug 02 05:06 |
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| techrights-news | Haha. "Smart".... https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/21/apple-hit-with-patent-infringement-lawsuit-for-selling-a-smart-water-bottle | Aug 02 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple hit with patent infringement lawsuit for selling a smart water bottle | AppleInsider | Aug 02 05:10 | |
| techrights-news | "The overturned ruling bucks the trend we've previously seen in the US and UK." Even the corrupt #EPO opposed this https://gizmodo.com/australian-court-rules-that-yes-ai-can-be-an-inventor-1847394182 | Aug 02 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Australian Court Rules That AI Can Be an Inventor | Aug 02 05:12 | |
| techrights-news | The term "life science" is a misnomer, just like "IP"; the patent cartel leverages these propaganda term to further an unlawful agenda https://www.iam-media.com/the-benefits-of-outsourcing-patent-activities-life-science-companies-in-changing-ip-landscape see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/ | Aug 02 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | The benefits of outsourcing patent activities for life science companies in a changing IP landscape | IAM | Aug 02 05:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Term ‘Life Science’ Has Outlived Its Usefulness | Techrights | Aug 02 05:14 | |
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| techrights-news | Framing mass #surveillance and abuses of human rights as "innovation" https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2021/07/29/new-apple-patent-reveals-the-ultimate-iphone-upgrade/?sh=6ebb30402e20 #apple #cult | Aug 02 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | New Apple Patent Reveals The Ultimate iPhone Upgrade | Aug 02 05:15 | |
| techrights-news | Sooooooooooooooooooo ugly https://electrek.co/2021/07/27/tesla-cybertruck-design-influences-new-patent/ | Aug 02 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla discloses Cybertruck design influences in fascinating new patent - Electrek | Aug 02 05:17 | |
| techrights-news | World leader in #fakepatents or low-quality #patents that make you wonder of a Third Opium War has quietly begun already https://www.natlawreview.com/article/china-s-supreme-people-s-court-rules-utility-model-patent-unenforceable-if | Aug 02 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | China’s Rules Utility Model Patent Unenforceable | Aug 02 05:19 | |
| techrights-news | All those #patent #lawyers that lobby to kill millions of people just to keep prices artificially high with #patents dig their own grave; the public opinion on the #patent system is rapidly shifting https://www.natlawreview.com/article/ip-waiver-covid-19-vaccines-what-united-states-support-means-practice | Aug 02 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Global COVID Vaccine IP Protection Approval Needed by WTO | Aug 02 05:20 | |
| techrights-news | The #monopoly #goldrush is good for nobody https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3890900 "incentive to reveal its breakthrough only if its rival has not done so, and only if the research is costly." | Aug 02 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | Revealing Private Information in a Patent Race by Pavel Kocourek :: SSRN | Aug 02 05:22 | |
| techrights-news | #europe #corruption #patents #eu #epo http://techrights.org/2020/12/01/the-breton-coverup/ | Aug 02 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Commission’s Thierry Breton Covers Up EPO Corruption For His Friend Benoît Battistelli | Techrights | Aug 02 05:23 | |
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| techrights-news | NOT at all happy to see #linuxhint turning into more of an #amazon referral #SPAM farm. This has gotten a lot worse lately, making the site as a whole dodgy for its rogue business model. | Aug 02 05:26 |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 mini router keeps cool with aluminum alloy cover • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154053 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 mini router keeps cool with aluminum alloy cover | Tux Machines | Aug 02 05:28 | |
| techrights-news | We need to form some sort of support network for #journalism to ensure that remaining (functional, honest) news sites don't sell out or defect to the spam/misinformation industry http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ | Aug 02 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy ‘Articles’ and ‘Reviews’ Which Have Killed ‘Professional Journalism’ (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights | Aug 02 05:31 | |
| techrights-news | The financial burden should always be on monopolists, not the accused parties they bully, but #Germany is 'sold' to the highest bidder already (and their lawyers) https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1086052/overview-of-the-costs-of-patent-infringement-and-patent-nullity-proceedings-in-germany | Aug 02 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Overview Of The Costs Of Patent Infringement And Patent Nullity Proceedings In Germany - Intellectual Property - Germany | Aug 02 05:32 | |
| techrights-news | They invent new #laws to protect their dominance and claim that their rivals "break the law" https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1422048770829651972 | Aug 02 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stautistic: Another daily reminder that intellectual property is stupid and is only enforced by people who didn’t invent a godd… https://t.co/mO1bS7jx1V | Aug 02 05:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stautistic: Another daily reminder that intellectual property is stupid and is only enforced by people who didn’t invent a godd… https://t.co/mO1bS7jx1V | Aug 02 05:35 | |
| techrights-news | First test EasyOS Bullseye series • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154054 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First test EasyOS Bullseye series | Tux Machines | Aug 02 05:36 | |
| cubexyz/fn | o | Aug 02 05:37 |
| cubexyz/fn | typo | Aug 02 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | where? | Aug 02 05:38 |
| cubexyz/fn | me due to x2x | Aug 02 05:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | cubexyz did you register with freenode? | Aug 02 05:38 |
| cubexyz/fn | I think I did ages ago | Aug 02 05:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean on the Web? | Aug 02 05:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you drop your connection, they won't let you log back in | Aug 02 05:39 |
| cubexyz/fn | probably not | Aug 02 05:39 |
| schestowitz | We actually moved to #techrights at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it) which is the correct channel to use). | Aug 02 05:39 |
| schestowitz | freenode is rapidly killing itself | Aug 02 05:40 |
| schestowitz | by making it hard to even access | Aug 02 05:40 |
| cubexyz/fn | what should I do? | Aug 02 05:40 |
| schestowitz | they try to steer people towards "smart" phones and "apps" | Aug 02 05:40 |
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| schestowitz | freenode users went down from 90k to just about 12k this weekend.... in the past 4 months | Aug 02 05:41 |
| schestowitz | an alarming trend as they show lack of commitment to freenode's communities | Aug 02 05:41 |
| schestowitz | #techrights at irc.techrights.org, port 6667 (there are other channels such as #techbytes #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social here also). | Aug 02 05:42 |
| cubexyz/fn | ok, I confirmed my nick | Aug 02 05:42 |
| schestowitz | I didn't want to give up on freenode like this, but they can vanish at any moment | Aug 02 05:43 |
| schestowitz | they bleed users as fast as hell | Aug 02 05:43 |
| cubexyz/fn | what's the alternative(s)? | Aug 02 05:43 |
| schestowitz | to freenode? | Aug 02 05:43 |
| cubexyz/fn | yes | Aug 02 05:43 |
| schestowitz | configure your irc client | Aug 02 05:43 |
| schestowitz | irc.techrights.org, port 6667 | Aug 02 05:44 |
| schestowitz | same channels | Aug 02 05:44 |
| cubexyz/fn | oh I see, that's why you have a bridge | Aug 02 05:46 |
| cubexyz/fn | so you can still use freenode | Aug 02 05:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, freenode obstrtucts many users | Aug 02 05:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | over time it gets worse | Aug 02 05:46 |
| cubexyz/fn | I've been on IRC a long time | Aug 02 05:48 |
| cubexyz/fn | can't remember when I started... sometime in the 1990's | Aug 02 05:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | same here | Aug 02 05:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I got my first modem, then irc | Aug 02 05:50 |
| schestowitz | https://www.ebay.com/itm/273885047671 | Aug 02 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dynamode 144ATB-B Rev 1.1 14.4 Kbps ISA FAX / Modem Card | eBay | Aug 02 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | wow, they still sell them | Aug 02 05:51 |
| cubexyz/fn | ah, here's some history: | Aug 02 05:51 |
| schestowitz | those were the times | Aug 02 05:51 |
| schestowitz | disks 200MB in size | Aug 02 05:51 |
| cubexyz/fn | feb 28th, 1995 mirc is released | Aug 02 05:52 |
| schestowitz | and one mp3 taking half an hour to download | Aug 02 05:52 |
| schestowitz | we had to budget things, unlike now... | Aug 02 05:52 |
| cubexyz/fn | the bad old days when I was using win95 | Aug 02 05:52 |
| cubexyz/fn | although you my credit I was checking Minix, FreeBSD, OS/2 out at the time | Aug 02 05:53 |
| schestowitz | anyway, better reconfigure your irc clients | Aug 02 05:53 |
| cubexyz/fn | s/you/to/ | Aug 02 05:53 |
| cubexyz/fn | ok | Aug 02 05:53 |
| schestowitz | freenode looks like a ticking time bomb to me | Aug 02 05:53 |
| cubexyz/fn | thanks for telling me | Aug 02 05:53 |
| schestowitz | maybe their aim it to convert some of what's left into irc.com "APP" users | Aug 02 05:53 |
| schestowitz | hours ago daemonfc told me that the VPN company (PIA) that bought freenode now routes all the traffic through some very dodgy entity, maybe one that spies on IRC traffic | Aug 02 05:55 |
| schestowitz | like these: https://www.recordedfuture.com/solutions/dark-web-monitoring/ | Aug 02 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.recordedfuture.com | Threat Intelligence for Dark Web Monitoring | Recorded Future | Aug 02 05:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://wikileaks.org/hackingteam/emails/emailid/1149001 | Aug 02 05:56 |
| schestowitz | "Recorded Future engaged in analysis of our data, searching for references to Tor exit node IP addresses" | Aug 02 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - The Hackingteam Archives | Aug 02 05:57 | |
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| schestowitz | "The public site Recorded Future is referencing is Pastebin. A commenter on the original post laid out what happened: Some time after the URL was published, it was posted to Pastebin, which is a public text repository, like imgur. There, it was crawled by Recorded Future." | Aug 02 06:01 |
| schestowitz | http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2015/04/15/facebook-chat-security-recorded-future-cia-dont-crawl-it-they-say/ | Aug 02 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.americaninno.com | NO TITLE | Aug 02 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2015/04/16/recorded-future-has-raised-12m-for-its-cyber-threat-web-crawling-service/ | Aug 02 06:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techfrag.com/2015/04/17/facebook-chats-monitored-cia-funded-agencies/ | Aug 02 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to techfrag.com:80; Connection refused ( status 0 @ http://techfrag.com/2015/04/17/facebook-chats-monitored-cia-funded-agencies/ ) | Aug 02 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe those firms are a much greater threats than whatever they claim to be tackling | Aug 02 06:02 |
| schestowitz | and then you see who's funding them | Aug 02 06:02 |
| schestowitz | it's just surveillance information warfare | Aug 02 06:02 |
| schestowitz | and www is their battleground | Aug 02 06:02 |
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| techrights-news | The #GNU C Library version 2.34 is now available • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154055 http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/ibm-and-the-coup/ | Aug 02 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The GNU C Library version 2.34 is now available | Tux Machines | Aug 02 06:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Half the People in This Letter Are IBM Employees | Techrights | Aug 02 06:05 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▁▆▄▃▅▁▂▃▆▂▃▄▅▃▄▅▅▃▆▁▄▂▅▁▇▂▄▄▅▂▂▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 18.15 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▂▁▁▂▆█▁▂█▂▂█▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▅▁█▂█▂▂▂▁▁██▁▁ avg(k/sec) 88.51▕ swarm size (avg): 283.28 ⟲ | Aug 02 06:05 |
| techrights-news | Salaries over time... https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c5w3YHY | Aug 02 06:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Salaries in 1990s - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 02 06:07 | |
| techrights-news | "I’m referring to a post specifically about the #email debacle, but it’s not the first time that some people at #IBM have gotten away with something so easily. Why are they so privileged? If I were guilty of a much smaller mistake, I wouldn't be here right now." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c5TfOLE | Aug 02 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How do some people manage to escape responsibility just like that? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 02 06:08 | |
| techrights-news | #ibm as dying company https://logicmag.io/nature/in-the-shadow-of-big-blue/ | Aug 02 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-logicmag.io | In the Shadow of Big Blue | Aug 02 06:09 | |
| techrights-news | #ibm in the process of becoming #memorabilia https://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/local/2021/07/29/ibm-country-club-new-lifebroome-county-finds-developer/5415381001/ | Aug 02 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pressconnects.com | IBM Country Club to get new life if Broome County finds developer | Aug 02 06:09 | |
| techrights-news | " #IBM is suffering from a lack of vision." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c6Seone | Aug 02 06:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Messed up priorities once again - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 02 06:10 | |
| techrights-news | Sometimes it feels like instead of fighting against #microsoft the old Big Blue #ibm fights against the #FSF http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | Aug 02 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | Aug 02 06:13 | |
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| techrights-news | Giving Microsoft control over files is not a wise idea https://itsfoss.com/onedriver/ | Aug 02 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Mount Microsoft OneDrive in Linux With OneDriver GUI Tool | Aug 02 08:00 | |
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| techrights-news | Stop calling #listeningDevices ... they're for gullible people https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/02/steval-voice-ui-amazon-qualified-alexa-smart-home-evaluation-kit-is-based-on-stm32h7-mcu/ | Aug 02 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | STEVAL-VOICE-UI Amazon qualified Alexa Smart Home evaluation kit is based on STM32H7 MCU - CNX Software | Aug 02 08:02 | |
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| techrights-news | 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 01, 2021 • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/irc-log-010821/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/02/irc-log-010821/ | Aug 02 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 01, 2021 | Techrights | Aug 02 08:53 | |
| techrights-news | #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 1st, 2021 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154056 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 1st, 2021 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 08:53 | |
| techrights-news | It already it, it always is, based it is back doored https://www.techgamingreport.com/how-to-look-at-if-your-iphone-is-infected-and-spied-on/ | Aug 02 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techgamingreport.com | how to look at if your Iphone is infected and spied on | Aug 02 08:59 | |
| techrights-news | #Xfce: Search improvements • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154057 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce: Search improvements | Tux Machines | Aug 02 09:00 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154058 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 02 09:00 | |
| techrights-news | AWS adds browser access to its cloudy WorkSpaces desktops – but not for Linux • The Register ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/02/aws_daas_workspaces_web_access/ avoid #aws and all this #clowncomputing nonsense http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ | Aug 02 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | AWS adds browser access to its cloudy WorkSpaces desktops – but not for Linux • The Register | Aug 02 09:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights | Aug 02 09:02 | |
| techrights-news | #dav1d 0.9.1 Released With More Optimizations - Particularly For Older CPUs https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dav1d-0.9.1-Released | Aug 02 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dav1d 0.9.1 Released With More Optimizations - Particularly For Older CPUs - Phoronix | Aug 02 09:03 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▂▅▅▂▄▅▆▃▅▂▂▂▃▄▅▅▆▅▄▄▅▅▄▃▄▅▅▄▅▃▄▆▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.16 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▁█▁▃▂▁▁▂███▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 75.70▕ swarm size (avg): 283.03 ⟲ | Aug 02 09:05 |
| techrights-news | Links 2/8/2021: Linux 5.14 RC4 and 20% Growth in Steam • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/linux-5-14-rc4/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/02/linux-5-14-rc4/ | Aug 02 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/8/2021: Linux 5.14 RC4 and 20% Growth in Steam | Techrights | Aug 02 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154059 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154060 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | 17 videos this past week in #techrights http://techrights.org/videos/ | Aug 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index | Aug 02 09:15 | |
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| techrights-news | Sounds like #kape and its parent company that destroyed #freenode and harmed #irc as a whole https://www.timesofisrael.com/foreigners-file-slew-of-lawsuits-against-alleged-israeli-investment-scammers/ | Aug 02 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesofisrael.com | Foreigners file slew of lawsuits against alleged Israeli investment scammers | The Times of Israel | Aug 02 09:35 | |
| techrights-news | Please, people, stop assuming every system has #webp support, and please stop putting that in Web pages. Older systems in particular are discriminated against. #google #www | Aug 02 09:37 |
| techrights-news | #Seeed Dual Gigabit Ethernet Carrier Board for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Review: Serving Your Needs • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154061 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed Dual Gigabit Ethernet Carrier Board for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Review: Serving Your Needs | Tux Machines | Aug 02 09:38 | |
| techrights-news | The dog did not even understand this. Why did this become "news"? Goodwill fluff? Copaganda? https://www.miragenews.com/police-dog-kaos-receives-gsdca-outstanding-606067/ | Aug 02 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.miragenews.com | Police Dog Kaos receives GSDCA Outstanding Canine Service Award | Mirage News | Aug 02 09:39 | |
| techrights-news | No More Shouting The Name "Power". #IBM isn't going to ban the word "POWER!"... or "Whitehurst". "Whitelist" racist, "Whitehurst" is allll cool. That man from Alabama. https://www.itjungle.com/2021/08/02/no-more-shouting-the-name-power-well-except-in-our-title-here/ | Aug 02 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | No More Shouting The Name "Power" (Well, Except In Our Title Here) - IT Jungle | Aug 02 09:41 | |
| techrights-news | “Watson®” is a Lot More Offensive Than “Whitelist” and “Master” • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/ | Aug 02 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “Watson®” is a Lot More Offensive Than “Whitelist” and “Master” | Techrights | Aug 02 09:42 | |
| techrights-news | This #ibm sponsored 'publisher' (PR apparatus) still talks about #WebSphere like it's a thing... https://www.itjungle.com/2021/08/02/in-the-api-world-nobody-knows-you-are-an-ibm-i/ | Aug 02 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | In The API World, Nobody Knows You Are An IBM i - IT Jungle | Aug 02 09:44 | |
| techrights-news | #israel #surveillance in "HEY HI" and "Log Analytics" clothing https://nocamels.com/2021/08/ai-log-analytics-coralogix-55m-funding/ | Aug 02 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nocamels.com | Log Analytics Startup Coralogix Closes $55M Funding Round | Aug 02 09:46 | |
| techrights-news | Two more #patent offices have gone completely bonkers. It's time to consider if this sort of moment is a suggestion we need to scrap the patent system and start it over again. It's rigged and unhelpful to actual innovation. In COVID's case, it is killing millions of people unnecessarily. For profit. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/02/ai_inventor_allowed_in_australia/ | Aug 02 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Australian court rules an AI can be considered an inventor on patent filings • The Register | Aug 02 09:51 | |
| techrights-news | This propaganda mill #managingip continues to be just an amplifier of parasitic lawyers' agenda (because they pay for it) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sxydhp6036kv/what-us-in-house-want-from-china-counsel | Aug 02 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | What US in-house want from China counsel | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 02 09:52 | |
| techrights-news | Legal tender in #ElSalvador : First the U.S. dollar, and now #Bitcoin http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/legal-tender-in-el-salvador-first-us.html | Aug 02 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Legal tender in El Salvador: First the U.S. dollar, and now Bitcoin - The IPKat | Aug 02 09:53 | |
| techrights-news | This site is bribes by #billgates and I've lost count of the number of sites in #africa that he bribed to lie to African people and push his #patent (or #monopoly ) agenda... https://allafrica.com/stories/202108020136.html | Aug 02 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tanzania: Mwinyi Wants Economic Diplomacy Strengthened - allAfrica.com | Aug 02 09:55 | |
| techrights-news | Use #OpenCV on #Fedora #Linux ‒ part 1 https://fedoramagazine.org/use-opencv-on-fedora-linux-part-1/ I've used both at work... | Aug 02 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Use OpenCV on Fedora Linux ‒ part 1 - Fedora Magazine | Aug 02 09:57 | |
| techrights-news | #Lutris #game manager 0.5.9-beta1 is out adding #EpicGames Store support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154028#comment-30433 | Aug 02 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lutris 0.5.9 Beta Released With Epic Games Store Support, DXVK-NVAPI/DLSS, Gamescope | Tux Machines | Aug 02 10:00 | |
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| techrights-news | Linux has finally hit that almost mythical 1% user share on Steam again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154051#comment-30434 | Aug 02 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Survey Shows Linux Marketshare Hitting 1.0% | Tux Machines | Aug 02 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | #Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154062 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 10:04 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ U.S. Govt: Persistent 'Copyright Troll' Lawyer Should Serve Full Prison Sentence https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-govt-persistent-copyright-troll-lawyer-should-serve-full-prison-sentence-210801/ | Aug 02 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Govt: Persistent 'Copyright Troll' Lawyer Should Serve Full Prison Sentence * TorrentFreak | Aug 02 10:14 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #FortranLang ☞ #Fortran newsletter: August 2021 https://fortran-lang.org/newsletter/2021/08/01/Fortran-Newsletter-August-2021/ | Aug 02 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortran-lang.org | Fortran newsletter: August 2021 - Fortran Programming Language | Aug 02 10:14 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Joinup #Science ☞ France recognises #freesw in its National Plan for Open Science 2021-2024 Permalink https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-software-supported-french-open-science-policy | Aug 02 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Open source software supported in the French open science policy | Joinup | Aug 02 10:15 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #OpenScience #Science ☞ Second National Plan for Open Science: Generalising open science in France: 2021-2024 https://www.ouvrirlascience.fr/second-national-plan-for-open-science/ | Aug 02 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ouvrirlascience.fr | Ouvrir la Science - Second National Plan for Open Science | Aug 02 10:15 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheEconomist #Hardware ☞ Will Nvidia’s huge bet on HEY HI chips pay off? https://www.economist.com/business/2021/08/01/will-nvidias-huge-bet-on-artificial-intelligence-chips-pay-off | Aug 02 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will Nvidia’s huge bet on artificial-intelligence chips pay off? | The Economist | Aug 02 10:16 | |
| psydruid | > [notice] www.itjungle.com | No More Shouting The Name "Power" (Well, Except In Our Title Here) - IT Jungle | Aug 02 10:54 |
| psydruid | There will be no more need to shout POWER when it is DEAD due to cheap hardware running GNU/Linux killing it | Aug 02 10:54 |
| Ariadne | i wish that IBM cared more about openpower | Aug 02 10:58 |
| Ariadne | but they seem to have stopped caring since RH acquisition | Aug 02 10:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▃▄▁▁▅▄▅▅▃▃▄▅▃▄▅▄▂▃▄▅▄▅▆▆▅▂▇▅▅▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 17.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▁▁█▃█▃▁▂█▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▃▄▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂█▂▃▁▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 74.63▕ swarm size (avg): 282.95 ⟲ | Aug 02 11:05 |
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| techrights-news | #Microsofr #Windows TCO: ● #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Ransomware attacks hit record 300 mn in 1st half of 2021: Report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/ransomware-attacks-hit-record-300-mn-in-1st-half-of-2021-report/84963572 | Aug 02 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | ransomware attacks: Ransomware attacks hit record 300 mn in 1st half of 2021: Report, IT News, ET CIO | Aug 02 12:14 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Elite students are debating hot-button issues on an invite-only TikTok clone https://www.theverge.com/22588932/polemix-app-tiktok-clone-students-invite-only-debating-app | Aug 02 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Elite students are debating hot-button issues on a new invite-only app - The Verge | Aug 02 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #FB developing HEY HI, new ways to detect users under age 13 https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/fb-developing-ai-new-ways-to-detect-users-under-age-13/84963677 | Aug 02 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | facebook: FB developing AI, new ways to detect users under age 13, IT News, ET CIO | Aug 02 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheHill #PrivacyAbuse #Surveillance ☞ #Zoom settles user #privacy case for $85M https://thehill.com/policy/technology/565848-zoom-settles-user-privacy-case-for-85m | Aug 02 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zoom settles user privacy case for $85M | TheHill | Aug 02 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Reuters #PrivacyAbuse #Surveillance ☞ #Zoom reaches $85 mln settlement over user #privacy , 'Zoombombing' https://www.reuters.com/technology/zoom-reaches-85-mln-settlement-lawsuit-over-user-privacy-zoombombing-2021-08-01/ | Aug 02 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zoom reaches $85 mln settlement over user privacy, 'Zoombombing' | Reuters | Aug 02 12:16 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Zoom Settles Consumer Claims Over Privacy for $85 Million https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-01/zoom-settles-consumer-claims-over-privacy-for-85-million | Aug 02 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Aug 02 12:17 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #OutlookIndia #Censorship ☞ Pitchers’ Star Naveen Kasturia On Censorship: It Is Like Judging Your Own People’s Maturity https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/entertainment-news-pitchers-star-naveen-kasturia-on-censorship-it-is-like-judging-your-own-peoples-maturity/390083 | Aug 02 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.outlookindia.com | Pitchers’ Star Naveen Kasturia On Censorship: It Is Like Judging Your Own People’s Maturity | Aug 02 12:19 | |
| techrights-news | #nytimes is shifting the blame away from #Microsoft https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/opinion/sunday/russia-ransomware-hacking.html the problem is Microsoft itself: http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Aug 02 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Russia’s New Form of Organized Crime Is Menacing the World - The New York Times | Aug 02 12:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights | Aug 02 12:28 | |
| psydruid | if they really cared they would be working on an SBC similar to an x86 mini-desktop to get people familiar with the hardware and writing software for it, even if that meant it would only have 2 or 4 cores | Aug 02 12:33 |
| techrights-news | #gnu #linux #golug http://troubleshooters.com/linux/presentations/golug_software_guide/dng_software_guide.otl | Aug 02 12:38 |
| techrights-news | #smbc #purity https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/purity-2 | Aug 02 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Purity | Aug 02 12:38 | |
| techrights-news | #section230 https://www.wsj.com/articles/free-speech-youtube-section-230-censorship-content-moderation-susan-wojcicki-social-media-11627845973 | Aug 02 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free Speech and Corporate Responsibility Can Coexist Online - WSJ | Aug 02 12:39 | |
| techrights-news | Orbiter Space Flight Simulator goes open source | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/orbiter-space-flight-simulator-goes-open-source but #github is #Proprietarysoftware ... #deletegithug to avoid #microsoft and #nsa etc. controlling the project | Aug 02 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Orbiter Space Flight Simulator goes open source | GamingOnLinux | Aug 02 12:51 | |
| techrights-news | Iron Gate tease more of what's coming to Valheim in Hearth & Home | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/iron-gate-tease-more-of-whats-coming-to-valheim-in-hearth-a-home ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iron Gate tease more of what's coming to Valheim in Hearth & Home | GamingOnLinux | Aug 02 12:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 02 12:52 | |
| techrights-news | Steam Survey: Linux Gaming Market Share Climbs to 1%... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154051#comment-30436 | Aug 02 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Survey Shows Linux Marketshare Hitting 1.0% | Tux Machines | Aug 02 12:56 | |
| techrights-news | Valve talk about learning from mistakes with the upcoming Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/valve-talk-about-learning-from-mistakes-with-the-upcoming-steam-deck ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve talk about learning from mistakes with the upcoming Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Aug 02 12:58 | |
| techrights-news | #Games: Orbiter Space Flight Simulator and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154063 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Orbiter Space Flight Simulator and More | Tux Machines | Aug 02 13:02 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▄▃▅▅▄▅▂▅▆▄▆▄▅▁▂▆▁▆▃▄▃▅▁▂▂▃▅▃▂▃▄▃▄▃▂▃▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 17.28 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▁█▁█▁▂█▂█▁▂▁█▂▁▁█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 75.68▕ swarm size (avg): 282.90 ⟲ | Aug 02 13:06 |
| techrights-news | #covid19 "cases" worldwide (inc. healed/recovered people), at least the confirmed ones (the complete number might be well over a billion, with asymptomatic and poor countries/remote areas), about to exceed 0.2 billion people. Our approach is to keep away from people like with pollution... COVID does not pass easily when you quarantine and wash everything that comes home | Aug 02 13:06 |
| techrights-news | Sunday deaths with #covid19 in #uk @ 65. Yes, highest since March! 2nd worst in EU/Europe: 18. Then 3rd: 10. 4th: 10. 8, 6, 5... we're worse off than all of them COMBINED. #borisnaro failed us. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/ | Aug 02 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young | Aug 02 13:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Most people did not get so traumatized as that. That does not imply it did not affect them. I suspect that the TV coverage may have shifted millions of people's perceptions, so that they overestimated the danger of terrorism while downplaying the danger of laws that take away freedom." https://stallman.org/articles/dont-watch-covid-tv.html | Aug 02 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Don’t watch TV coverage of Covid-19! | Aug 02 13:12 | |
| techrights-news | Has this number exceeded $50,000,000,000,000 by now? 2012: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722 | Aug 02 13:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters | Aug 02 13:13 | |
| Ariadne | incidentally, due to climate change, we are going to have a negative leapsecond in October | Aug 02 13:15 |
| Ariadne | if you guessed that all timekeeping-related software was not written with the expectation of a negative leapsecond, you'd be correct | Aug 02 13:15 |
| Ariadne | GPS week 2180 is the real Y2K | Aug 02 13:16 |
| activelow | crazy, didn't at least hear of this before | Aug 02 13:34 |
| activelow | and it is only 3 month remaining] | Aug 02 13:34 |
| Ariadne | well, it was not really supposed to be a serious event | Aug 02 13:40 |
| Ariadne | except gpsd was expecting a positive leapsecond to be introduced | Aug 02 13:40 |
| Ariadne | instead we get this weird zero-length leapsecond, which when run through gpsd, makes gpsd roll the clock back to 2001 | Aug 02 13:41 |
| Ariadne | :D | Aug 02 13:41 |
| Ariadne | October 24th is going to be a very interesting day | Aug 02 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | How will databases cope? | Aug 02 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | that might sort events wrongly | Aug 02 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the UNIX systems hold time for a second (literally) | Aug 02 13:44 |
| Ariadne | databases use monotonic time | Aug 02 13:47 |
| Ariadne | which can only move forward | Aug 02 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | we has many incidents at work | Aug 02 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | psql with new years and leap hours/years | Aug 02 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the worst ones are hours happening "twice" | Aug 02 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I suggested we move everything to utc | Aug 02 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more bst | Aug 02 13:50 |
| activelow | doing this for 15 years: UTC only | Aug 02 13:51 |
| techrights-news | #Fenix Linux Streams YouTube Fullscreen on Raspberry Pi 4 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154064 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fenix Linux Streams YouTube Fullscreen on Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 13:51 | |
| activelow | although recently i was confused again, about TAI (known to differ), and i didn't feel confident about the NTP servers and clients on linux recently | Aug 02 13:52 |
| techrights-news | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Understanding the File System – Part 12 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154065 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Understanding the File System – Part 12 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 13:52 | |
| activelow | whenever a network service requires root-privileges | Aug 02 13:52 |
| activelow | tried openbsd openntpd then, which fails to synchronize system clock on linux, for unknown reasons | Aug 02 13:53 |
| activelow | and some other options have other problems | Aug 02 13:53 |
| Ariadne | UTC is the most practical option, but TAI is the most correct | Aug 02 13:54 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The latest mess on freenode doesn't require re-registration. But cubexyz might have problems connecting regardless, depends on the client and settings. | Aug 02 14:01 |
| MinceR | 02 141519 < Ariadne> incidentally, due to climate change, we are going to have a negative leapsecond in October | Aug 02 14:04 |
| MinceR | how does climate change affect that? | Aug 02 14:05 |
| Ariadne | the rotational speed of the earth has changed, which resulted in an expected leap second being cancelled back in July | Aug 02 14:05 |
| MinceR | yeah, but how does climate change speed up the rotation of the earth? | Aug 02 14:05 |
| Ariadne | fuck if i know, ask the IERS | Aug 02 14:05 |
| Ariadne | my guess is changes in atmospheric turbulence causing increased rotation, but i'm not an expert :) | Aug 02 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like they just stuck "climate change" in some unknown | Aug 02 14:06 |
| Ariadne | probably | Aug 02 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's being plugged into lots of things | Aug 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you don't agree, you are anti-science | Aug 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | recently a lack of lorries caused a supply chain issue | Aug 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | no food | Aug 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | not enough truck drivers | Aug 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | UK media tried to blame that on "climate change" | Aug 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | later they wonder, after they cry wolf, why people "own the libs" | Aug 02 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | by denying "climate change" is even a thing | Aug 02 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2000: tell people to stop using the N word | Aug 02 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2020: IBM tells us to stop using the M word | Aug 02 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we look like fools | Aug 02 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM 1930s: nothing wrong with the F word | Aug 02 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | (we mean Fuhrer) | Aug 02 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Raspi Fn.: critics of Microsoft malware are "Microsoft bashing" | Aug 02 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM: critics of the Nazi Party as "bashers" of our second-biggest client | Aug 02 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporate standards... it's OK for them, not for us | Aug 02 14:11 |
| techrights-news | Jupiter Nano ARM based mini PC can run NuttX RTOS or Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153997#comment-30437 | Aug 02 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jupiter Nano – Tiny Cortex-A5 board runs Linux or NuttX RTOS (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines | Aug 02 14:14 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154066 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 14:15 | |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Vichyite Battistelli Committed Crimes and His Buddy António Snubs Courts That Confirm These Are #Crimes http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/epo-crimes/ #epo #europe #patents #iloat | Aug 02 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Vichyite Battistelli Committed Crimes and His Buddy António Snubs Courts That Confirm These Are Crimes | Techrights | Aug 02 14:34 | |
| techrights-news | It Almost Feels Like #Battistelli Still Runs the EPO (by Extension/Proxy) http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/a-mafia-run-office/ #europe #crime #epo #ceipi | Aug 02 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Almost Feels Like Battistelli Still Runs the EPO (by Extension/Proxy) | Techrights | Aug 02 14:50 | |
| techrights-news | Links 2/8/2021: Open Science in France and Zoom Pays to Settle Privacy Violations • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/open-science-in-france/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/02/open-science-in-france/ | Aug 02 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/8/2021: Open Science in France and Zoom Pays to Settle Privacy Violations | Techrights | Aug 02 15:05 | |
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| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154067 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 15:07 | |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/cf35261c1dde5518.jpg | Aug 02 15:10 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154068 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Aug 02 15:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: nana made fine meatballs | Aug 02 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | tbh, youtube has become mostly unacceptable to me, not as a matter of prnciple but paragmatic aspecrs | Aug 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can NEVER access a video, here in the UK, without an ad pushed to you prior | Aug 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and skipping has been made harder too | Aug 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes they inject ads into the middle of a video at unexpected times | Aug 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | so if you work out, you need to walk to the laptop to skip ads | Aug 02 15:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why we now use the yewtu.be instance | Aug 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and never ads again | Aug 02 15:13 |
| MinceR | uBlock Origin blocks the ads youtube inserts | Aug 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more nana meatballs | Aug 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: on laptops that have it | Aug 02 15:13 |
| MinceR | there's some software/service that also skips ads embedded by the video authors | Aug 02 15:14 |
| MinceR | youtube-dl and mpv also skip the ads youtube inserts :> | Aug 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are semi-solutions | Aug 02 15:14 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Aug 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | tbh, I'm glad not to bother at all with youtube | Aug 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's clown computing/social control media | Aug 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | you sign up | Aug 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it changes over time | Aug 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | you must press OK to any changes they made | Aug 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the exit barriers have gone u | Aug 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they exploit monopoly, inertia, lock-in to impose crazy new rules on you | Aug 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Google inserting ads it won't even pay "creators" for | Aug 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so, | Aug 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | your [sic] youtube channel | Aug 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | (Google's, you are just a tenant) | Aug 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if you promised "NEVER ADS" | Aug 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | will STILL have ads | Aug 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but ones you won't even cash in on | Aug 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | IIRC, this is why many people quit youtube in droves | Aug 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at huge expense to themselves, like 40k or so channels that had to flee freenode.net | Aug 02 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some still have not | Aug 02 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | in techrights I put no CMS for videos | Aug 02 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's all just filesystem and hypertext tying that together, not sure how mediagloblin will mature in a decade or two | Aug 02 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems too stagnant already (it was also weak technically when I checked) | Aug 02 15:18 |
| techrights-news | #gogole #youtube is #clowncomputing / #socialcontrolmedia and it screws everyone. #deleteYouTube https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/cf35261c1dde5518.jpg | Aug 02 15:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | there's this myth that youtube makes people "stars" | Aug 02 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | for more than a limited period of times | Aug 02 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they like to selective measure things | Aug 02 15:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe one in thousands will reach audience of just thousands | Aug 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | case of point, spamnil. | Aug 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Invested tons of money in eqipment, made tons of videos, his latest videos are 16 views (3 days ago) | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | 16 views 3 days ago | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | 29 views 3 days ago | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | 19 views 3 days ago | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | 26 views 3 days ago | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/c/TFiRio/videos | Aug 02 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TFiR - YouTube | Aug 02 15:21 | |
| schestowitz | and he takes like a whole day just to make a video! | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | his site is just as bad | Aug 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | no more than 50 views per blog post | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | linux.com became the same | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | after they left him in charge for like a year | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | later they hired Microsoft Perlow | Aug 02 15:22 |
| MinceR | there's also the unjustified deletions | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | who made it no better | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | The linux "publicists" are awful | Aug 02 15:22 |
| MinceR | often triggered by bots | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | they drive away the ACTUAL users | Aug 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: youtube sent me many emails about copyrights | Aug 02 15:23 |
| schestowitz | but I used LEGALLY the tracks I put in shows | Aug 02 15:23 |
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| schestowitz | AFAIK | Aug 02 15:23 |
| schestowitz | they just scan | Aug 02 15:23 |
| schestowitz | "OH, WE HAVE THIS TRICK IN OUR DATABASE" | Aug 02 15:23 |
| schestowitz | ->send angry email to "content" "creator" | Aug 02 15:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP0DYh2wtN1I5DK2bMalMXQ | Aug 02 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz - YouTube | Aug 02 15:23 | |
| schestowitz | however, they never ever took down a video of mine... yet | Aug 02 15:24 |
| schestowitz | I stopped uploading about 8 years ago | Aug 02 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Then tried a couple dozen that I had already uploaded to techrights | Aug 02 15:24 |
| schestowitz | audience small, youtube hides it | Aug 02 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Oh, it says I actually stopped 9 years ago | Aug 02 15:25 |
| schestowitz | it was not worth the extra effort/steps | Aug 02 15:25 |
| schestowitz | I had ffmpeg set up to split shows into 10-minute segments | Aug 02 15:25 |
| schestowitz | the upload can be streamlined but not automated | Aug 02 15:25 |
| schestowitz | tsdr: | Aug 02 15:25 |
| schestowitz | for 99% of people using youtube to share video would likely prove a waste of time/effort | Aug 02 15:26 |
| schestowitz | better not even start | Aug 02 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | people can also self-host video from an SBC at home | Aug 02 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know one person who does that | Aug 02 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | password-protected too | Aug 02 15:27 |
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| techrights-news | "unregistered Community design right." [sic] http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/ag-e-advises-that-partial-designs-may.html | Aug 02 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | AG Øe advises that partial designs may be protected as unregistered designs - The IPKat | Aug 02 15:29 | |
| techrights-news | FOSS Patents: #Patent injunction 'reform' bill expected to be signed into law next week by #Germany 's Federal President ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/08/patent-injunction-reform-bill-expected.html ䷉ #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Patent injunction 'reform' bill expected to be signed into law next week by Germany's Federal President | Aug 02 15:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 02 15:30 | |
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| techrights-news | The “Mafia” that destroyed the EPO is still being put in charge and is using the #EPO for shameless self-promotion; it is never being held accountable, not even when courts demand remediatory action and staff seeks reparations http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/a-mafia-run-office/ | Aug 02 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Almost Feels Like Battistelli Still Runs the EPO (by Extension/Proxy) | Techrights | Aug 02 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | Staff of the #EPO is coming to realise (or reaching acceptance of the fact) that the spirit of #Battistelli — not just people he left in charge of the EPO — dooms the Office and there’s no way out of this mess http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/epo-crimes/ | Aug 02 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Vichyite Battistelli Committed Crimes and His Buddy António Snubs Courts That Confirm These Are Crimes | Techrights | Aug 02 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | Next-generation buzzword/BC. What drugs are those people doing? https://www.bugnion.eu/en/next-generation-ip-2/ | Aug 02 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bugnion.eu | Next Generation IP | Bugnion | Aug 02 15:34 | |
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| techrights-news | Will This Court Case End the #Mining Industry’s 150-Year Dominance of the West? - Mother Jones ⚓ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/08/will-this-court-case-end-the-mining-industrys-150-year-dominance-of-the-west/ ䷉ #motherjones | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 15:34 |
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| techrights-news | Forming yet more #monopolies around #COVID19 instead of tackling the problem as a matter of priority https://synbiobeta.com/genscript-announces-notice-of-allowance-for-u-s-patent-application-for-sars-cov-2-surrogate-virus-neutralization-kit/ | Aug 02 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GenScript Announces Notice of Allowance for U.S. Patent Application for SARS-CoV-2 Surrogate Virus Neutralization Kit - SynBioBeta | Aug 02 15:35 | |
| techrights-news | GNU C Library 2.34 Released With More Functionality Squeezed Into libc http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154055#comment-30438 | Aug 02 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The GNU C Library version 2.34 is now available | Tux Machines | Aug 02 15:36 | |
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| techrights-news | Rant: 30 years ago lots of young girls were persuades by culture/media/peer pressure to get dangerous 'boob jobs'. Nowadays (and today I saw one) those same girls, now in their 50s, get 'butt jobs' (even more dangerous!). WTH is wrong with society??? Teach people to accept reality and more importantly health! | Aug 02 15:39 |
| techrights-news | You don't hear much about #canonical in the media anymore because just like #suse it became more of a reseller, i.e. it's pushing other people's brand (usually proprietary s/w giants). If #ubuntu languishes I hope a GOOD GNU/Linux distro will take its place. | Aug 02 15:42 |
| techrights-news | Work Is Back Underway On A Task Isolation Interface For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Task-Isolation-Interface-2021 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Work Is Back Underway On A Task Isolation Interface For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Aug 02 15:44 | |
| techrights-news | #xeyes 1.2.0 https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2021-August/003101.html #linux #graphics | Aug 02 15:45 |
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| techrights-news | Pervert #billgates chose to chase young girls and skirts instead of business (even if fraudulently disguised as 'charity' to bribe the media and evade tax). Mark Shuttleworth abandoned philanthropy and is now chasing #microsoft for money/kickbacks... | Aug 02 15:47 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu is Swahili for "YouMicrosoft for others". #MarkShuttleworth #canonical #ubuntu http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ | Aug 02 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights | Aug 02 15:49 | |
| techrights-news | Using #Checkmk for Monitoring Your #GNU #Linux Server Infrastructure ⚓ https://linuxhandbook.com/checkmk/ ䷉ #LinuxHandbook | Aug 02 15:50 |
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| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154069 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 02 16:44 | |
| techrights-news | #Debian Improves Docs To Inform Users Their Systems Might Not Work Without Non-Free Firmware • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154070 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Improves Docs To Inform Users Their Systems Might Not Work Without Non-Free Firmware | Tux Machines | Aug 02 16:44 | |
| techrights-news | #Kernel: Task Isolation Interface and X.Org’s XEyes 1.2 Released • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154071 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Task Isolation Interface and X.Org's XEyes 1.2 Released | Tux Machines | Aug 02 16:45 | |
| techrights-news | Best Educational Applications for Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154072 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Educational Applications for Linux | Tux Machines | Aug 02 16:45 | |
| techrights-news | Kubuntu Focus Team Announces High-Performance Focus XE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154036#comment-30439 | Aug 02 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: On KDE Connect, Kalendar, Kubuntu, KDE Itinerary, and More | Tux Machines | Aug 02 16:49 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▃▆▄▇▃▃▄▅▅▂▅▅▁▅▆▅▄▃▄▄▃▅▄▂▅▅▁▄▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 19.95 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▂▂▁█▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂██▃▄▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂█▁▂█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 56.60▕ swarm size (avg): 282.73 ⟲ | Aug 02 17:05 |
| techrights-news | Stable Kernels: 5.13.7, 5.10.55, 5.4.137, and 4.19.200 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154073 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.13.7, 5.10.55, 5.4.137, and 4.19.200 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 17:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154074 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 17:07 | |
| techrights-news | Teensy SBC runs Linux or NuttX on SAMA5D http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153997#comment-30440 | Aug 02 17:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jupiter Nano – Tiny Cortex-A5 board runs Linux or NuttX RTOS (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines | Aug 02 17:10 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What's the current value? | Aug 02 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode users? | Aug 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | millions! | Aug 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the way! | Aug 02 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the signup page in irc.com cannot handle the demand | Aug 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | iRC | Aug 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | long lines of 'i' cultists | Aug 02 17:23 |
| leah | Current global users: 13195 | Aug 02 17:23 |
| leah | that's freenode right now | Aug 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | waiting to get their hands on a shiny freenode account! | Aug 02 17:23 |
| leah | Current global users 46599 <-- that's libera | Aug 02 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: some people are still logged in without an account | Aug 02 17:24 |
| leah | pre-leenode freenode was 90000 users average | Aug 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | like 2 clients here | Aug 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they drop the connection they might not get back in anymore | Aug 02 17:24 |
| leah | i'm still registered on freenode. just in case things turned out ok over there, i made sure to keep my nick registered | Aug 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | sma here | Aug 02 17:24 |
| leah | but yes, it does appear as though there will be no more users by the end of the year | Aug 02 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | *same | Aug 02 17:24 |
| leah | a few thousand at most | Aug 02 17:25 |
| leah | i think libera will get up to about 60k users by the end of 2021 | Aug 02 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Ah, thanks. So it's the sixth largest network. | Aug 02 17:25 |
| leah | freenode is the 6th largest network? | Aug 02 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | leah: yea | Aug 02 17:25 |
| leah | that's what happens when you use drugs | Aug 02 17:25 |
| leah | you drop the ball, man | Aug 02 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it used to be 6 tiems bigger than the others | Aug 02 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | depending on what you'd measure | Aug 02 17:25 |
| leah | well, freenode is not worth discussing now | Aug 02 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Yea, it's irrelevant now. | Aug 02 17:28 |
| techrights-news | #Barrier and #Synergy Can Work Together, Connecting Lots of Different Machines | Aug 02 17:34 |
| techrights-news | #Barrier and #Synergy Can Work Together, Connecting Lots of Different Machines http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/barrier-and-synergy-setup/ #freesw | Aug 02 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Barrier and Synergy Can Work Together, Connecting Lots of Different Machines | Techrights | Aug 02 17:34 | |
| MinceR | 02 183622 [freenode2] -!- Current global users: 13194 Max: 22832 | Aug 02 17:36 |
| leah | it was 13195 | Aug 02 17:37 |
| leah | is it 13194 because you just left? | Aug 02 17:37 |
| schestowitz | [01:16] <XRevan86> > :Current global users 13241 | Aug 02 17:38 |
| schestowitz | 16 hours ago | Aug 02 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's the EFnet number | Aug 02 17:38 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait | Aug 02 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | Yesterday it was 13.3K for freenode | Aug 02 17:38 |
| techrights-news | #freenode is now down to just 13,194 online users, which makes it the 6th biggest #irc network. Months ago it was #1 with almost 6 times as many users as those below it... | Aug 02 17:40 |
| leah | unfortunately, irc is weaker now overall | Aug 02 17:41 |
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| leah | lots of people left irc to other protocols | Aug 02 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, we talked about this befor | Aug 02 17:41 |
| leah | some of them are free, others not | Aug 02 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we know who stands to benefit from that | Aug 02 17:41 |
| leah | discord | Aug 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ewww | Aug 02 17:42 |
| leah | discord probably got a lot of projects join it | Aug 02 17:42 |
| leah | who did you think stood to benefit? | Aug 02 17:42 |
| techrights-news | #Fwupd 1.6.2 Adds a Plugin to Check Lenovo Firmware Settings, Support for New Hardware • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154075 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fwupd 1.6.2 Adds a Plugin to Check Lenovo Firmware Settings, Support for New Hardware | Tux Machines | Aug 02 17:46 | |
| leah | if freenode had been smarter, things would have played out differently | Aug 02 17:47 |
| leah | it didn't need to respond, at all, to the announcements of resignation by former staff. in fact, not responding was the correct... response | Aug 02 17:48 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/empty-npm-package-has-over-700-000-downloads-heres-why/ | Aug 02 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Empty npm package '-' has over 700,000 downloads — here's why | Aug 02 17:48 | |
| leah | fortunately, lee felt personally offended and responded | Aug 02 17:48 |
| techrights-news | #Barrier and #Synergy can be configured to work properly in conjunction, though only provided different port numbers (non-default) are specified http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/barrier-and-synergy-setup/ #gnu #linux | Aug 02 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Barrier and Synergy Can Work Together, Connecting Lots of Different Machines | Techrights | Aug 02 17:48 | |
| leah | and now, as a result, things are much cleaner. it's better that there be 1 large network. having 2 networks neck and neck would be annoying | Aug 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: NPM= Microsoft/NSA | Aug 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | With literal NSA staff moving to run NPM | Aug 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | recently | Aug 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those dodgy repos, shithub inc., will make for a fine shitshow with popcorn | Aug 02 17:49 |
| leah | if lee didn't respond, and acted more benignly, i think freenode would probably have lost maybe 20-30% of its users. no more. libera would be about 10-20k users | Aug 02 17:49 |
| leah | freenode would probably be maybe 70k users | Aug 02 17:49 |
| leah | by now i mean | Aug 02 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Aug 02 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I condemned him for it | Aug 02 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and told him not to keep proving his critics wrong | Aug 02 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | but apparently it wasn't just him who did it | Aug 02 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | phanes/bagira used admin access to 'settle scores' | Aug 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | Lee surrounded himself by the few who were willing, inc. some "rogues" | Aug 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when he got rid of them he was left with few who know how to run IRC servers, I think | Aug 02 17:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, huge mess | Aug 02 17:51 |
| leah | benignly means: not hijacking channels, not resetting the ircd, not hiring a bunch of fascists to run the network | Aug 02 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne was at one point willing to help | Aug 02 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think that the onboard fascists put her off | Aug 02 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's hope more networks of IRC will emerge | Aug 02 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't want few giants anyway | Aug 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're hardly needed | Aug 02 17:53 |
| Ariadne | stop ritually defaming the staff | Aug 02 17:53 |
| Ariadne | or whatever | Aug 02 17:53 |
| leah | however, having large networks has its uses | Aug 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the twitter/facebook/youitube situation shows that if you put together groups too large they cause emoptional angst to one another | Aug 02 17:53 |
| leah | everyone knows where to go | Aug 02 17:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need many smaller networks | Aug 02 17:53 |
| Ariadne | irc channels can be described using magnet links | Aug 02 17:53 |
| leah | Ariadne: defaming freenode staff? | Aug 02 17:53 |
| Ariadne | yes | Aug 02 17:54 |
| Ariadne | any criticism of them | Aug 02 17:54 |
| Ariadne | they call it | Aug 02 17:54 |
| Ariadne | ritual defamation | Aug 02 17:54 |
| leah | ok | Aug 02 17:54 |
| Ariadne | and link to techrights | Aug 02 17:54 |
| leah | Ariadne: by that logic, you are defaming me right now | Aug 02 17:54 |
| leah | ritually | Aug 02 17:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't ask for that link :-) | Aug 02 17:54 |
| leah | :P | Aug 02 17:54 |
| Ariadne | which has an essay about how people spin stories into nonsense | Aug 02 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a meme of Lee | Aug 02 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | hang on.. | Aug 02 17:55 |
| leah | anyway, once fsf quit, it was a done deal | Aug 02 17:55 |
| leah | once fsf left freenode | Aug 02 17:55 |
| Ariadne | it’s on | Aug 02 17:55 |
| Ariadne | err it’s ok | Aug 02 17:55 |
| Ariadne | freenode is like 14k users which are probably mostly abandoned clients that will fall off as this SASL requirement is enforced | Aug 02 17:56 |
| leah | i don't need any other evidence but this: | Aug 02 17:56 |
| leah | i sat in #freenode on freenode for weeks, and saw 1488 everywhere | Aug 02 17:56 |
| Ariadne | yeah i started calling it 1488node lol | Aug 02 17:56 |
| leah | literal racist, transphobic and other hateful rhetoric being openly stated, constantly | Aug 02 17:57 |
| leah | the staff allowed it, and in many cases repeated it | Aug 02 17:57 |
| Ariadne | encouraged really | Aug 02 17:57 |
| leah | and then lee appeared on l0de's talk show | Aug 02 17:57 |
| Ariadne | “pizza gate is real — look it up” | Aug 02 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The MetroMile app has helpfully suggested that I should "make the experience better" by allowing it full access to location and the sensors in my cell phone. | Aug 02 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously so that they can "give me a more accurate rate" based on if they think I'm using the phone while driving. | Aug 02 17:57 |
| Ariadne | don’t install apps | Aug 02 17:58 |
| Ariadne | from insurance companies | Aug 02 17:58 |
| Ariadne | like come the fuck on | Aug 02 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Without access to those sensors, it shouldn't be much of a problem, right? | Aug 02 17:58 |
| Ariadne | they’ll gather other data from your phone | Aug 02 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | Can an app tell when you're in a phone call without any special permissions? | Aug 02 17:59 |
| Ariadne | i mean, probably? | Aug 02 17:59 |
| Ariadne | maybe not directly but through inference | Aug 02 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | The sensor access is kind of a giveaway. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | It can tell if the phone is like, up to your head or moving around and not in your pocket. | Aug 02 18:00 |
| Ariadne | anyway my suggestion would be to just not | Aug 02 18:01 |
| Ariadne | i don’t use those apps | Aug 02 18:01 |
| Ariadne | if i want to interact with geico, i use my computer | Aug 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, MetroMile has a dashboard on the website where you can file claims and stuff. | Aug 02 18:02 |
| Ariadne | “but you can store your insurance ID card on your phone” | Aug 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | See the OBI II data and everything else. | Aug 02 18:02 |
| Ariadne | yeah fuck that, that involves giving a cop my phone | Aug 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | I have a printed copy of my insurance card. | Aug 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not stupid. I'm not handing the police my phone. | Aug 02 18:02 |
| Ariadne | metro mile hooks into your obd2???? | Aug 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, to track your mileage. | Aug 02 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | > freenode is like 14k users which are probably mostly abandoned clients that will fall off as this SASL requirement is enforced | Aug 02 18:03 |
| Ariadne | uhhhhh | Aug 02 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: 13K actually. And the decline is very nice and lean. | Aug 02 18:03 |
| AdmFubar | https://hackaday.com/2021/08/02/home-depot-is-selling-power-tools-that-require-activation-in-store/ | Aug 02 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Home Depot Is Selling Power Tools That Require Activation In-Store | Hackaday | Aug 02 18:03 | |
| DaemonFC | My device has to be plugged in by the 8th. | Aug 02 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's in the PO Box right now the post office says. | Aug 02 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe it's exactly because of that: clients reconnect and fail. | Aug 02 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to plug it in until the 7th. | Aug 02 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | and because it's idlers, they'll just disappear into the void | Aug 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will do a post/meme about this... | Aug 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | should be funny | Aug 02 18:04 |
| Ariadne | all of this sounds like a horrible idea | Aug 02 18:04 |
| Ariadne | plug spyware into your car | Aug 02 18:04 |
| Ariadne | to save 50 bucks a year on insurance | Aug 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | with a poem... | Aug 02 18:05 |
| Ariadne | well | Aug 02 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | People don't have pride in things that matter. | Aug 02 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | can someone screenshot for me freenode usercount? | Aug 02 18:05 |
| Ariadne | their thing won’t even work on my car | Aug 02 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: They'll gladly do it. But when a mask is required… oh boy… | Aug 02 18:05 |
| Ariadne | tesla’s don’t have an obd2 port | Aug 02 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | <Ariadne> to save 50 bucks a year on insurance | Aug 02 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, it saves me $50 a MONTH. | Aug 02 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | And that's on a beater car with no Comprehensive and Collision. | Aug 02 18:06 |
| Ariadne | wtf | Aug 02 18:06 |
| Ariadne | did you run over a kid or something | Aug 02 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | No, worse. Bad credit from the bankruptcy. | Aug 02 18:06 |
| Ariadne | my insurance is like 45 a month | Aug 02 18:06 |
| Ariadne | with full coverage | Aug 02 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | And if I don't beat that traffic ticket, I'll have that too. | Aug 02 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | Bad credit alone will more than double your premium with some companies and in most states. | Aug 02 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | So when your credit goes from 800 and something to 600 and something, get ready for a 80-90% spike in your premium. | Aug 02 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, you can wait them out a little bit by insurance hopping. | Aug 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of companies will give you a bunch of discounts that only work on your first term to get you as a customer. | Aug 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Pay in full for 6 months and then when the term is up, change to another company. | Aug 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86 MinceR leah: can any of you make a screenshot of freenode usercount and upload? Or give me the command? | Aug 02 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If freenode is gradually reconnecting everyone to ensure that the new policy is ensured, ye may be in danger %). | Aug 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I make a funny post about it | Aug 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | If you can fix up your credit somewhat in a couple of years, at least you can see where things are then. | Aug 02 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I've no means to do it, I rely on https://hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F.html solely, but it only gives averages, so the count is delayed. | Aug 02 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kajetan Hinner, IRC Statistics Freenode | Aug 02 18:10 | |
| XRevan86 | Right now it shows 13370, but that's because it's averaged out for the day. | Aug 02 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | Like, I managed to get my credit back up from 490 to 650 in a year and a half. | Aug 02 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | For a normal network that's reasonable, but for freenode it just introduces a 12 hour lag. | Aug 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | They use poor or average credit to say you're a bad risk when you're not. | Aug 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then they have a reason to steal from you. | Aug 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | They're a bunch of pirates. | Aug 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | Insurance companies operate on five principles. 1. Fight every claim. 2. Blanket the airwaves with ads. 3. Charge as much as possible using any excuse. 4. If you pay a claim, find a way to take 300% of what you paid on top of what their premiums were before, or just drop them. 5. Spy on them and then sell their data to your competitors so you make money on the backend too. | Aug 02 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | The reason there are so many "worst car insurance companies" when there really only could be one worst insurance company is because no matter where you go, they all operate the same way. | Aug 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: thanks | Aug 02 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing that changes is their particular risk formula is different, so some will be not quite as bad for you as others, but there's no "best" or "worst" company, unilaterally, for anyone. | Aug 02 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | For example, Allstate is a really bad company if you have perfect credit, but if you have really lousy credit, they can be cheaper than Progressive or Geico. | Aug 02 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So yea, wait for MinceR and leah. | Aug 02 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | or for CrystalMath | Aug 02 18:16 |
| CrystalMath | sadly it's sub-EFNet now | Aug 02 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | When I had perfect credit, Allstate was coming at me with quotes that were a third higher than Geico, but now that I have bad credit, Geico charges a lot more than Allstate. | Aug 02 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That's what I said, yes :) | Aug 02 18:16 |
| CrystalMath | so people prefer no services at all to mandatory services | Aug 02 18:17 |
| CrystalMath | not surprising actually, most of freenode was unregistered | Aug 02 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Allstate probably puts credit as like 5% of their risk model while Geico does 20% or something. | Aug 02 18:17 |
| CrystalMath | all the time | Aug 02 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's all about moving that actuarial risk model, to where the actuary tables that company uses are a better fit for your life situation. | Aug 02 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: It's probably a community thing. | Aug 02 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Most people don't do this and never do much research. They just go "Well, look, there's an ostrich in that commercial!" or "Oh, my parents used this company for 20 years!". | Aug 02 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | phanes and bagira = same person, right? | Aug 02 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: EFnet existed for decades. | Aug 02 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes. | Aug 02 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Aug 02 18:19 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: EFNet once had 100k | Aug 02 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's the security vs. dancing pigs model applied to something else. | Aug 02 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Andrew-Lee.gif | Aug 02 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | You could have lower insurance premiums or an ostrich in the commercial, and you went with the ostrich. | Aug 02 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Next target is Rizon with 11K | Aug 02 18:19 |
| CrystalMath | there's still thousands of unregistered people on freenode | Aug 02 18:20 |
| CrystalMath | it's quite possible | Aug 02 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | MetroMile doesn't run ads on expensive platforms too much. They make use of social media ads, ads on the city buses, Youtube. | Aug 02 18:20 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC: i mean i still see tons of unregistered people talk | Aug 02 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Television is an expensive place to advertise even though there are less people watching it. That's kind of odd. | Aug 02 18:20 |
| CrystalMath | they already stated they won't reconnect | Aug 02 18:20 |
| CrystalMath | so it's just a matter of when their connection drops | Aug 02 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | With Facebook, it's possible to target individuals who are just what you're looking for. | Aug 02 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | The city bus goes around everywhere multiple times per day. | Aug 02 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | People looking around without much to do seeing all those ads on the ceiling. | Aug 02 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | MetroMile's advertising strategy is smart. They minimize expense and get their target audience, so like, mom never heard about them because she watches TV. | Aug 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | She's not the target. | Aug 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | Boomers have never been great with money, as a generation. | Aug 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | They're averse to change, even when that hurts them, and some of that is they're getting older and that's what happens. | Aug 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | There's a market for that. Use Fox News to scare the bejesus out of them and keep them too frightened to do anything but keep watching. | Aug 02 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Here's a pillow. Buy gold. Having erection problems? Buy this! | Aug 02 18:24 |
| schestowitz | draft: http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/freenode-is-irc/ | Aug 02 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is IRC… in Collapse | Techrights | Aug 02 18:24 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Looks like dropping below Rizon is a certainty. | Aug 02 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Now will freenode drop below QuakeNet, that's a toughy. | Aug 02 18:24 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz has access instructions | Aug 02 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This is IRC. *egg* This is IRC on Andrew Lee. *Splatters egg with a frying pan* Any questions? | Aug 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | when his connections drops he can come here | Aug 02 18:25 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: 10471 | Aug 02 18:25 |
| CrystalMath | right now | Aug 02 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | Freenode Autonomous Zone. Population 1. | Aug 02 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: QuakeNet? | Aug 02 18:25 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 02 18:25 |
| CrystalMath | i'm there | Aug 02 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty soon it'll just be a server with Lee talking to himself. | Aug 02 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | Gone crazy. | Aug 02 18:26 |
| CrystalMath | i think freenode has more registered people than EsperNet has users though | Aug 02 18:26 |
| CrystalMath | so it won't drop below that | Aug 02 18:26 |
| CrystalMath | EsperNet is only ~2,000 | Aug 02 18:26 |
| Ariadne | 12:07 PM <DaemonFC> Bad credit alone will more than double your premium with some companies and in most states. | Aug 02 18:26 |
| schestowitz | population 1 is better than jooeson or whatever, with a population of 0 | Aug 02 18:26 |
| Ariadne | that’s illegal in OK | Aug 02 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | <Ariadne> that’s illegal in OK | Aug 02 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, I'm quite Illannoyed. | Aug 02 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The gif is repetitive. | Aug 02 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | So I just get to go with some piece of shit company that's dodgy about paying out their claims. But whatevs. | Aug 02 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Albeit very true :) | Aug 02 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's liability insurance and it'll be the other person's lawyer that ends up suing MetroMile. | Aug 02 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | If and when anything terrible happens. | Aug 02 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But maybe ye could put it all into one .gif | Aug 02 18:27 |
| Ariadne | the only thing they can use your credit against you for is the down payment if you buy on installment | Aug 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | If I was going full coverage, no way in hell. | Aug 02 18:28 |
| Ariadne | but since it is only couple hundred bucks i just pay in full | Aug 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, This is called Game Theory. | Aug 02 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That guy in a striped shirt can be l0de. | Aug 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be a difficult time getting them to pay out, but it's the problem of whoever you hit. | Aug 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | If that ever happens. | Aug 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | For you, cheap premiums. | Aug 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you need coverage on your car, go to some other company. | Aug 02 18:29 |
| Ariadne | i have full coverage :D | Aug 02 18:29 |
| Ariadne | deductible is like 3 grand tho | Aug 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | There's nothing worse than trying to deal with a difficult company when you have to make a claim on your property with your own company. | Aug 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's more than the value of my car. | Aug 02 18:29 |
| Ariadne | my car is new haha | Aug 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Mine was already totaled out and I used the payout to do an engine rebuild. | Aug 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | It was paid out because of hail damage that you can barely see. | Aug 02 18:30 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Things get mirky down the 10K point, not as well-tracked. | Aug 02 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | And it was sitting in mom's yard leaking everything. | Aug 02 18:30 |
| Ariadne | hail is kinda scary for me | Aug 02 18:30 |
| Ariadne | i have a glass roof | Aug 02 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, It would be nuts to do full coverage on a 20 year old car with 276,000 miles on it. | Aug 02 18:30 |
| XRevan86 | I won't be able to even say "freenode is the Nth largest network", because then it's just untrackable. | Aug 02 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | They'd never pay you what it's actually worth to you. | Aug 02 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Why buy it? | Aug 02 18:31 |
| techrights-news | Freenode is IRC... in Collapse • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/freenode-is-irc/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/02/freenode-is-irc/ | Aug 02 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is IRC… in Collapse | Techrights | Aug 02 18:31 | |
| Ariadne | well yeah if i had a rust bucket i wouldn’t do full coverage | Aug 02 18:31 |
| techrights-news | #UnityX 10 Desktop Environment Makes Great Progress, Now Features New Panel and Sidebar Designs • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154076 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UnityX 10 Desktop Environment Makes Great Progress, Now Features New Panel and Sidebar Designs | Tux Machines | Aug 02 18:32 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That should probably be the last post on the topic, the horse is dead. | Aug 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but... | Aug 02 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably switch to Allstate if MetroMile goes kaput. | Aug 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | never underestimate the capability and capacity for another blunder | Aug 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | They were the next cheapest. | Aug 02 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "FREENODE IS APP" | Aug 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | They have a mile-based program or a flat rate that was like $60 a month. | Aug 02 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | download the app and user your account | Aug 02 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yea, the "lolz" potential is still there :). | Aug 02 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and no more open ports for actual IRC | Aug 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Geico and Progressive wanted like $90-ish, and that's if you pay the entire term up front. | Aug 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Amica wanted $167 a month and I went BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. | Aug 02 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But for that we'll just have to wait. | Aug 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Dr. Evil, this is 1969. There isn't that much money in the entire world!" | Aug 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: get a l0de of this. root # make me a sandwich, l0de | Aug 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sad thing is the brand | Aug 02 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I was thinking about it while walking to/from town. They spent 2 decades building a brand | Aug 02 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode as a name is mentioned thousands of times in techrights | Aug 02 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | by name | Aug 02 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in a couple of months the brand became synonymous with something completely different | Aug 02 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | lilo spinning in his resting place | Aug 02 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | https://twitter.com/legit_ioangogo/status/1421583828729085955 | Aug 02 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@legit_ioangogo: I have no idea what to do with my freenode t-shirts now, the name on them got taken over by someone who is panderi… https://t.co/wlKOKdMtZc | Aug 02 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@legit_ioangogo: I have no idea what to do with my freenode t-shirts now, the name on them got taken over by someone who is panderi… https://t.co/wlKOKdMtZc | Aug 02 18:36 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Free Dumb Tech Solutions VPN servers have more bandwidth but they piss off a lot of websites. | Aug 02 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Aug 02 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: ^ some people even have wares with the ruined branding. | Aug 02 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | I love Windows. | Aug 02 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Especially the zombie tasks you can only kill with a reboot. | Aug 02 18:39 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I had tea in my mouth when ye sent this. | Aug 02 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | too close to disaster | Aug 02 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Some troll (probably MSFT) was bashing Linux on an article that popped up about how many bugs Windows 11 beta has. | Aug 02 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | He said you could hardly get any hardware working at all with Linux (not true). Then proceeded to list a bunch of stuff most people don't use anymore because phones can do all of that. | Aug 02 18:42 |
| techrights-news | #gnu #linux turning 38 soon https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2021/250/Kernel-Up-Close see http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ | Aug 02 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | Kernel Talk » Linux Magazine | Aug 02 18:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | Techrights | Aug 02 18:42 | |
| activelow | tried sasl-auth with my old credentials: wiped. i mean freenode could have asked with a confirmation email to retain the account, since a valid mail address was registered with my account too. | Aug 02 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: The pre-June account? | Aug 02 18:43 |
| activelow | yes, registered 2017 | Aug 02 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Then he went off about how much he loved Office 2007 and didn't want to upgrade. | Aug 02 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Why even try? | Aug 02 18:44 |
| activelow | with valid mail address, got the old password too, a cert fingerprint. | Aug 02 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: They are simply gone. | Aug 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | And gave a shout out to one of those dodgy product key sites where it's like $10 for Office and $13 for Windows. | Aug 02 18:44 |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/08/02/chromebook_vs_windows_11_pcs/ | Aug 02 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Chromebooks fighting for mind share at PC makers with higher-margin Windows 11 machines in the lead, says IDC • The Register | Aug 02 18:44 | |
| DaemonFC | And then said "OpenOffice" is "okay". | Aug 02 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: freenode was reset, the old database was just dropped. | Aug 02 18:44 |
| activelow | XRevan86: then rasengan must take down the freenode domain name. | Aug 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | I have my suspicions that those dodgy product key sites _are_ Microsoft, and they let it happen because the alternative is losing people from their products and thus marketshare. | Aug 02 18:45 |
| techrights-news | Jon "maddog" Hall should know better about #gnu and not go along with the 1991 revisionist story http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2021/250/maddog-s-Doghouse http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ | Aug 02 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | Doghouse – 30th Anniversary of Linux » Linux Magazine | Aug 02 18:45 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: That's not really necessary at this point. | Aug 02 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | But they make the site look like it's dodgy so most people stay away. | Aug 02 18:45 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: One cannot even accidentally connect to it now :) | Aug 02 18:45 |
| activelow | last time i tried a moment ago freenode domain did receive my SASL auth request, and rejected the valid credentials | Aug 02 18:46 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: He could just transfer the domain to the Libera people and stand back, but that's not going to happen. | Aug 02 18:46 |
| activelow | he must, either take it down, or transfer it. | Aug 02 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | It's like expecting Oracle to give OpenOffice.org to the LibreOffice folks, not possible. | Aug 02 18:47 |
| activelow | different case, i did not register an account with oracle. i did with freenode domain. | Aug 02 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: The corpse of OpenOffice is giving FOSS a bad name to this day. | Aug 02 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | it haunts us all | Aug 02 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | PIA has probably turned into a honeypot. | Aug 02 18:48 |
| activelow | since you mention it: i wished "office suite" type products were not required, and instead i could do my stuff with vim and markdown, TeX and similar | Aug 02 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt they're too interested in blowing their cover to get some copyright infringers, but it's almost certainly the CIA or someone running it at this point. | Aug 02 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/393/IKIFEEL.jpg | Aug 02 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | They rerouted the US servers to various foreign ones for a while and now they're back geolocated into the US as FreedomTech Solutions incorporated in the UK. | Aug 02 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | So this is probably MI5 or something running it and spying on Americans as part of Five Eyes. | Aug 02 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The FreedomTech Solutions website looks pretty LULZ to me. | Aug 02 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Buzzword Bullshit Bingo | Aug 02 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Impossible to tell what it is they actually do. | Aug 02 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | That certainly can't be good. | Aug 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | PIA in the face... | Aug 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they used to be credible | Aug 02 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | The COVID thing is going to get really awful in Illinois very soon. | Aug 02 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | They had a 100,000 person concert in Grant Park, no masks. | Aug 02 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of people using counterfeit negative results or vaccine forms and bragging about it. | Aug 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | ha | Aug 02 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | FL is also bad now | Aug 02 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | [12:33] <techrights-news> #florida is red https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/florida-sets-daily-record-more-21000-covid-19-cases | Aug 02 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Florida Sets Daily Record of More Than 21,000 COVID-19 Cases | Voice of America - English | Aug 02 18:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I decided that Mandy and I will go back to masks whenever we're inside somewhere and skip trips to anywhere we don't need to be for a while. | Aug 02 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | I went back to carrying hand sanitizer with me. | Aug 02 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | It looked like the whole thing had just died down to a negligible level and due to the vaccine or previous exposure. | Aug 02 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | But in a month or so it's going to skyrocket past January. | Aug 02 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | If things keep going the way they are. | Aug 02 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | The government is finished with lockdowns. It didn't work last time and they blew the whole wad on that, while many states didn't do much. | Aug 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | we had high AZ vaccination rates | Aug 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... | Aug 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | this summer is worse than last summer | Aug 02 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | in every way | Aug 02 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they lower precaution levels | Aug 02 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw some masked people today, many still choose to wear them, which I like | Aug 02 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is surging in Northern Ireland ATM | Aug 02 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure why there | Aug 02 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab....walking down to the post office to get my spyware. | Aug 02 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | Opt in because nobody else will give me a deal on car insurance that's even remotely fair. | Aug 02 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't get why people don't try to get themselves Moderna or Pfizer | Aug 02 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | over something like AZ that uses the same vector for both doses | Aug 02 19:02 |
| *psydruid went to the electronics store today, messed around with the crApple "mouse" on their desktops and the touchpads on a number of their laptops, but doesn't see how the lack of responsiveness and ergonomy could be considered user-friendly in any way | Aug 02 19:04 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▂▁▂▁▂▅▅▄▄▅▅▂▁▃▅▅▆▆▃▃▆▅▆▅▃▄▄▅▂▁▁▂▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 17.36 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▁█▁▂▂▁▁▃▁█▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂█▁▃██▁▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 90.21▕ swarm size (avg): 282.67 ⟲ | Aug 02 19:05 |
| techrights-news | Better yet, wipe off #chromeOS then install a "real" #gnu #linux that gives you freedom and #privacy https://www.laptopmag.com/how-to/install-linux-apps-on-your-chromebook | Aug 02 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laptopmag.com | How to install Linux apps on your Chromebook | Laptop Mag | Aug 02 19:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: designed for looks | Aug 02 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to seem "unique" | Aug 02 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | just for the sake of "think different." | Aug 02 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM: think. | Aug 02 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | Apple: think different brand. | Aug 02 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft: don't think. OEMs forces you to... | Aug 02 19:14 |
| techrights-news | United States shot itself in the foot and discredited the whole patent system by letting courts become like companies that cheat to attract "clients" (lawsuits) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/another-transfer-particulars.html author funded by litigation fanatics | Aug 02 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Another Transfer from TX to CA: Looking at the Particulars of the Case (But not Too Closely) | Patently-O | Aug 02 19:19 | |
| techrights-news | Valve fires back in the lawsuit from Wolfire Games | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/valve-fires-back-in-the-lawsuit-from-wolfire-games ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve fires back in the lawsuit from Wolfire Games | GamingOnLinux | Aug 02 19:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 02 19:20 | |
| techrights-news | Typing adventure RPG 'Nanotale - Typing Chronicles' out now for Linux | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/typing-adventure-rpg-nanotale-typing-chronicles-out-now-for-linux ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/02/#latest | Aug 02 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Typing adventure RPG 'Nanotale - Typing Chronicles' out now for Linux | GamingOnLinux | Aug 02 19:20 | |
| techrights-news | #AMD + #Valve Working On New Linux CPU Performance Scaling Design - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Valve-New-CPU-Freq ䷉ #Phoronix | Aug 02 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD + Valve Working On New Linux CPU Performance Scaling Design - Phoronix | Aug 02 19:21 | |
| techrights-news | Total scammers run the #EPO ; have these scammers got the audacity to post this with a straight face? https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210802.html see http://techrights.org/2020/12/15/the-personal-gain-office/ see http://techrights.org/2020/12/15/the-personal-gain-office/ | Aug 02 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Beware misleading mails from scammers | Aug 02 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Week We Shall See If the EPO’s Administrative Council, Led by Josef Kratochvil, is Complicit in a Financial Scam | Techrights | Aug 02 19:24 | |
| techrights-news | #freenode is now down to just 13,194 online users, which makes it the 6th biggest #IRC network. Months ago it was #1 with almost 6 times as many users as those below it http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/freenode-is-irc/ | Aug 02 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is IRC… in Collapse | Techrights | Aug 02 19:25 | |
| techrights-news | #LinuxMagazine Latest Issue • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154077 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Magazine Latest Issue | Tux Machines | Aug 02 19:25 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154078 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 02 19:26 | |
| psydruid | https://nos.nl/artikel/2392209-steeds-meer-providers-zetten-in-op-glasvezel-wat-betekent-dit-voor-de-markt | Aug 02 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nos.nl | Steeds meer providers zetten in op glasvezel, wat betekent dit voor de markt? | NOS | Aug 02 19:27 | |
| psydruid | (more and more providers commit themselves to fibre, what does this mean for the market) | Aug 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say giving the MetroMile app permissions to use your sensors is a big mistake for sure. | Aug 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | The device in the car already has sensors and can tell if you've been in an accident. | Aug 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | But with access to your phone sensors, they can see if you're making a phone call while the car is in motion. | Aug 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think your rate wil lget lower for giving them access to the sensors, so they phrase it "It may be lower, or we can give you a more accurate quote.". | Aug 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | More accurate means "You're on the phone. Technical Foul. Higher rates!" | Aug 02 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | No soup for you! Come back 1 year! | Aug 02 19:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: so we should push on | Aug 02 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | any little win counts | Aug 02 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, wait | Aug 02 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: I read that as libre | Aug 02 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | not fibre | Aug 02 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | fibre was a disaster for me: | Aug 02 19:32 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/canceling-bt/ | Aug 02 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 27 Minutes to Cancel BT Order (Even Though I Was Very Clear It Needs to be Done as Soon as Possible), But Still Not Done on Compensation | Aug 02 19:32 | |
| lockeanarchist | So the most important GNU projects already broke with the FSF because the RMS thing. Meanwhile the permissive alternatives/rewrites are in full steam | Aug 02 19:33 |
| lockeanarchist | It won't end well | Aug 02 19:33 |
| schestowitz | it's not because of "RMS thing" | Aug 02 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | lockeanarchist: Which? | Aug 02 19:34 |
| schestowitz | it's because of IBM et al | Aug 02 19:34 |
| schestowitz | they want more control | Aug 02 19:34 |
| lockeanarchist | Glibc, GCC and some more | Aug 02 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | The FSF CLA thing? | Aug 02 19:34 |
| schestowitz | They did the same to Linux a month before buying Red Hat | Aug 02 19:34 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/ibm-and-the-coup/ | Aug 02 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Half the People in This Letter Are IBM Employees | Techrights | Aug 02 19:34 | |
| schestowitz | they showed Torvalds who the real boss was | Aug 02 19:34 |
| schestowitz | and they used their trolls | Aug 02 19:34 |
| schestowitz | from Red Hat http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ | Aug 02 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights | Aug 02 19:35 | |
| lockeanarchist | Torvalds almost was canceled and was forced to cave accepting a CoC | Aug 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | you don't get 65-figure salary to play nice | Aug 02 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy gets upset when I make soup, usually. | Aug 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | but to work for vicious companies with military connections | Aug 02 19:35 |
| lockeanarchist | Torvalds is just a employee at this point, sadly | Aug 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | so screw those people.. | Aug 02 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | One day, he gave MARISOL some of my chicken noodle soup and she said it was quite good and wondered what restaurant we went to. | Aug 02 19:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: OT | Aug 02 19:36 |
| schestowitz | #techpol or #boycottnovell-social | Aug 02 19:36 |
| lockeanarchist | XRevan86: I'm not against that move in particular, but this is being done to break ties with FSF | Aug 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Ah... | Aug 02 19:36 |
| schestowitz | lockeanarchist: that predates RMS | Aug 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | I need some system for retreiving recipes from these sites with all this crap on them. | Aug 02 19:36 |
| schestowitz | IBM being IBM | Aug 02 19:36 |
| schestowitz | like another Microsoft | Aug 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Javascript pop-ups and bullshit. | Aug 02 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft learned a lot from IB | Aug 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Have to scroll three pages about someone else's vacation to get to a recipe card. | Aug 02 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a bastard child of IBM | Aug 02 19:37 |
| schestowitz | and Microsoft got the contract because of the vagina Bill came from | Aug 02 19:37 |
| schestowitz | That's why Microsoft even "exists"... | Aug 02 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It would be nice if someone did a Gemini pod with recipes in them. | Aug 02 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't take any time to load, really. Just has everything you need right there, no useless scripts and formatting and junk. | Aug 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | that exists | Aug 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | and for restaurants | Aug 02 19:38 |
| lockeanarchist | I really tried to understand the anti-RMS people | Aug 02 19:38 |
| lockeanarchist | but I can't | Aug 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | stallman.oirg is mostly sensible stuff | Aug 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | and left-leaning | Aug 02 19:38 |
| lockeanarchist | RMS is just a weirdo, not a bigoted person | Aug 02 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook has banned linking to Stallman.org' | Aug 02 19:38 |
| schestowitz | the people who attacked him are centric/left | Aug 02 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | They give you warnings that your account might be banned if you continue. | Aug 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | "Progressives are right now advocating for the release of criminals, even murderers. To then have exactly the opposite attitude towards something that certainly is not committing physical violence against somebody, I don’t understand the double standard!" https://stallmansupport.org/nadine-strossen-hannah-wolfman-rebut-accusations-against-stallman.html | Aug 02 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Hannah Wolfman-Jones and Nadine Strossen Rebut Accusations Against Stallman - Choose Him as Coauthor | Aug 02 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: screenshot? | Aug 02 19:39 |
| lockeanarchist | The thing is nobody could take RMS place as a real leader at FSF | Aug 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I find this difficult to believe | Aug 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | iirc, zuck was using emacs or something | Aug 02 19:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe vim | Aug 02 19:40 |
| lockeanarchist | 2 years without RMS and the FLOSS cause just became worse | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | lockeanarchist: they just attack communities | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | they must be happy about freenode's collapse | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | it was never useful for their "shareholders" anyway | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | RMS last showed up in a public talk in May | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | nothing since | Aug 02 19:40 |
| schestowitz | nothjing scheduled either | Aug 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://i.imgur.com/gTrvmVL.jpg | Aug 02 19:41 |
| lockeanarchist | RMS needs to show himself more | Aug 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/talks.html | Aug 02 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman | Aug 02 19:41 | |
| lockeanarchist | they were successful | Aug 02 19:41 |
| techrights-news | I'm told that #facebook now BANS linking to Richard Stallman's Web site and threatens further sanctions for trying to https://i.imgur.com/gTrvmVL.jpg | Aug 02 19:42 |
| lockeanarchist | schestowitz: I hope RMS realize that this is a mistake | Aug 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz | FB is a top sponsor of Zemlinrosoft Foundation | Aug 02 19:42 |
| schestowitz | with several BOUGHT seats in the Board | Aug 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | so FB STAFF gets to BOSS Torvalds | Aug 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | just by bribing Zemlin and his little shills | Aug 02 19:43 |
| *cow_2001 (~un@user/cow-2001/x-5712099) has joined #techrights | Aug 02 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | Torvalds needs to make a move | Aug 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ | Aug 02 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called ‘Linux’ Foundation | Techrights | Aug 02 19:43 | |
| techrights-news | #patentTrolls with #swpats again: " #patent relates to the recovery of information in a mobile communications network." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/30/commworks-solutions-patent-challenged | Aug 02 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | CommWorks Solutions patent challenged — Unified Patents | Aug 02 19:45 | |
| techrights-news | Of course the litigation giants will just look the other way and not mention that the EPO's Boards of Appeal are rigged and stacked(guess in whose favour) https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=45e16aa9-f80d-47c1-82bf-8f894c025462 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ | Aug 02 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EPO decision T 96/20: Does this raise the inventive step bar for medical use inventions? - Lexology | Aug 02 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPO’s Legitimacy | Techrights | Aug 02 19:46 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: please email rms at gnu about it | Aug 02 19:47 |
| schestowitz | he needs to see this | Aug 02 19:47 |
| schestowitz | uses attachment, he can and does open them | Aug 02 19:47 |
| psydruid | schestowitz, I know, but that article says one of those providers already has 900,000 paying customers on fibre, so it must not be a disaster everywhere. Maybe BT is not doing things quite right, so I hope they'll try to improve for other prospective customers | Aug 02 19:47 |
| lockeanarchist | <DaemonFC> schestowitz, https://i.imgur.com/gTrvmVL.jpg -> More proof that this is not about left and right is about silencing everyone that are against their interests | Aug 02 19:48 |
| techrights-news | "Proceedings before the EPO are governed by the principle of uniformity of the language of the proceedings." #EPO is a major lawless fraud but the #litigation #cartel pretends not to see it... http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/08/02/patent-case-oticon-a-s-and-gn-resound-a-s-vs-sivantos-gmbh-epo/ | Aug 02 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: Oticon A/S and GN Resound A/S vs. Sivantos GmbH, EPO - Kluwer Patent Blog | Aug 02 19:48 | |
| MinceR | 02 190921 < schestowitz-TR> XRevan86 MinceR leah: can any of you make a screenshot of freenode usercount and upload? Or give me the command? | Aug 02 19:52 |
| MinceR | the command is /lusers | Aug 02 19:52 |
| techrights-news | #Patent #law is becoming ever more deadly (see #COVID19 blunders) and farcical, as it's clear it's anything but beneficial to society and #innovation has nothing whatsoever to do with it (a system gamed by bots) https://www.natlawreview.com/article/ai-can-invent-australia-first-to-recognise-non-human-inventorship | Aug 02 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Can AI Be An Inventor Under the Australian Patents Act? | Aug 02 19:52 | |
| MinceR | 02 184858 < leah> and now, as a result, things are much cleaner. it's better that there be 1 large network. having 2 networks neck and neck would be annoying | Aug 02 19:53 |
| MinceR | i'd rather have 0 large networks | Aug 02 19:53 |
| MinceR | large networks suck | Aug 02 19:53 |
| techrights-news | How the #propaganda mill of #EPO fraudsters ( #JoffWild and his groupies) responded to the shocking news that two countries now give #patents to bots https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/australia-court-decision-dabus | Aug 02 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Australian court decision to recognise non-humans as inventors is brave, verging on foolhardy | IAM | Aug 02 19:54 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz, Ariadne: What are your thoughts on maybe making a techrights XMPP MUC server? | Aug 02 19:55 |
| MinceR | freenode is abusive; illibera and oftc are run by SJWs who are hostile to free software; ircnet, undernet, efnet run on Not Invented Here; quakenet runs the same crap as undernet | Aug 02 19:55 |
| techrights-news | #Games: Nanotale - Typing Chronicles and Valve on GNU/Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154079 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | Because XMPP is federated, that may make it more comfortable for people to join. | Aug 02 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nanotale - Typing Chronicles and Valve on GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Aug 02 19:56 | |
| Ariadne | no | Aug 02 19:56 |
| MinceR | until their server goes down, at which point XMPP becomes very uncomfortable | Aug 02 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: okay :( | Aug 02 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [19:52] <MinceR> the command is /lusers | Aug 02 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Aug 02 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "large networks suck" | Aug 02 19:56 |
| *schestowitz-TR types /freenode lusers, gets error message :-) | Aug 02 19:57 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: I have experience with openfire | Aug 02 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not very advanced | Aug 02 19:57 |
| XRevan86 | OpenFire is not a nice one. | Aug 02 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | java iirc | Aug 02 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you're (open)fired!" | Aug 02 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | Prosody has something that matterbridge can use to bridge just like in here. | Aug 02 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | over the years I needed to 'fix' it a few times | Aug 02 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | but no means no | Aug 02 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: but more maintenance overhead | Aug 02 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | #techrights at LC is dead activity-wise | Aug 02 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | just lurkers and parkers, for nearly a week now... | Aug 02 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I can give it activity with some bridge adjustments if ye want :) | Aug 02 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | better now, I saw your smile anyway | Aug 02 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *better not | Aug 02 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the keyboard is getting softer | Aug 02 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | with all the hard strokes | Aug 02 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I still have typos with it | Aug 02 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I actually look forward to embracing gnunet | Aug 02 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's sort of beta | Aug 02 20:02 |
| techrights-news | #Patents are not rights, Dennis Crouch, so quit promoting this #propaganda . You're a law lecturer, so surely you know this, but your blog is funded by #patent #litigation fanatics and profiteers who make a living from misleading judges, legislators etc. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/property-assignment-patent.html | Aug 02 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | "Shall be the Property" is not an Assignment of Patent Rights | Aug 02 20:06 | |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i like NIH :) | Aug 02 20:08 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: LUSERS was also the MIT ITS command for listing users :) | Aug 02 20:09 |
| CrystalMath | probably taken from there | Aug 02 20:09 |
| techrights-news | Notice how they only ever give a platform and voice to patent litigation fanatics and aggressive law firms, not anybody who represent the public interest in this patent battlezone https://www.med-technews.com/medtech-insights/digital-in-healthcare-insights/innovations-in-digital-healthcare-–-navigating-the-challenge/ | Aug 02 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://www.med-technews.com/medtech-insights/digital-in-healthcare-insights/innovations-in-digital-healthcare-–-navigating-the-challenge/ ) | Aug 02 20:12 | |
| DaemonFC | https://abc7chicago.com/10924883 | Aug 02 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abc7chicago.com | Evictions expected to spike as pandemic moratorium ends - ABC7 Chicago | Aug 02 20:12 | |
| DaemonFC | Throw them out! | Aug 02 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | They were too lazy to file for a program that would pay 6 months of their rent and they were too busy buying TVs and playstations and trips to Disney and marijuana with "enhanced" unemployment that ends next month. | Aug 02 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | They have our economy so out of whack. | Aug 02 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Rent's going up on people who do bother to pay. It's hard to even get an apartment because they're afraid you'll pay one month and then turn into another one of these folks. | Aug 02 20:13 |
| techrights-news | #china has some lol #patents ... gaming the system as usual. To our detriment. https://chinapatentstrategy.com/a-simple-selfie-stick-utility-model-patent-continues-crushing-it-against-infringers-in-china/ | Aug 02 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chinapatentstrategy.com | 2020 China Top 10 IP Cases: Winners’ Sun is truly a Winner: A Simple Selfie-Stick Utility Model Patent Crushes Infringers in China - China Patent Strategy | Aug 02 20:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: OT | Aug 02 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | post in the correct channel | Aug 02 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Next month the "enhanced" unemployment ends and everyone's going to play musical chairs for the 12 million open jobs that are available and haven't been filled. | Aug 02 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Just let it happen. | Aug 02 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | poor ryan shaming poor people | Aug 02 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's going to be a huge right-sizing that happens all at once. | Aug 02 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | back to tech now | Aug 02 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | And it's squarely the fault of these idiots that they elected who helped put them in a predicament. | Aug 02 20:15 |
| MinceR | 02 210802 < CrystalMath> MinceR: i like NIH :) | Aug 02 20:19 |
| MinceR | i don't | Aug 02 20:19 |
| MinceR | especially when it results in things like having to manually rejoin channels if i connected during a netsplit | Aug 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I liked Ariadne's response though about car insurance. | Aug 02 20:20 |
| CrystalMath | huh? | Aug 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | "$90 for PLPD? Did you run over a kid?". | Aug 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Nope, good credit goes bad. | Aug 02 20:20 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: for real, if you join a channel during a netsplit, you have to /part and /join again?? | Aug 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's the only difference between paying $45 a month and $90. | Aug 02 20:21 |
| Ariadne | well i am paying $45 for full coverage, and you are paying $90 for liability :p | Aug 02 20:21 |
| Ariadne | correction: $43.88 | Aug 02 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | No, I pay $23 a month plus 3.1 cents per mile. | Aug 02 20:21 |
| Ariadne | 3.1 cents a mile?! | Aug 02 20:22 |
| Ariadne | geeze | Aug 02 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Thats for 50/100/25 and uninsured motorist bodily injury of 50/100 and uninsured motorist property damage covering $15,000. | Aug 02 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Which is more than what my car is worth, but adds so little to the cost, why not. | Aug 02 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, a lot of it is the area, you know. | Aug 02 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | You live out in the middle of nowhere. I live in Grand Theft Auto Waukegan. | Aug 02 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | I have to pay more because of a bunch of derelicts who drive drunk with no insurance. | Aug 02 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | ROy would get testy if I went further and named the demographic. | Aug 02 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, If I moved back to a rural area of Indiana it would drop at least 25% for that reason alone. | Aug 02 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Just moving out of Chicago saved me a fortune. | Aug 02 20:23 |
| Ariadne | i am in the process of moving back to oklahoma (: | Aug 02 20:23 |
| Ariadne | in wyoming, i got a new neighbor | Aug 02 20:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | home-ha | Aug 02 20:24 |
| Ariadne | who has a flag | Aug 02 20:24 |
| Ariadne | that says "WE KILL FUCKING FAGGOTS IN WYOMING" | Aug 02 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | When I had 826 FICO and full coverage on the Kia with $250 deductibles, I paid $68 a month to Root in Fox Lake, IL. | Aug 02 20:24 |
| Ariadne | so, i decided | Aug 02 20:24 |
| Ariadne | i should make an exit | Aug 02 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | That's down from $87 in Chicago. | Aug 02 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | They rate you based on ZIP and what's going on in that area. | Aug 02 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | With the carjackings, hit and run felonies, and uninsured drivers, you pay more through no fault of your own. | Aug 02 20:25 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: some bullcrap flag doesn't make it true | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a warning | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe even intentional | Aug 02 20:25 |
| Ariadne | what schestowitz-TR said | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a message to the neighbour | Aug 02 20:25 |
| Ariadne | he was sending a message | Aug 02 20:25 |
| Ariadne | message received! | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if he reports to the police it can escalate | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | she | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | that never ends well | Aug 02 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Since carjackings and gun violence have doubled under Lori Lightfoot, the last black mayor, who knows. | Aug 02 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Who knows what they charge now. | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the flag is "first amendment" | Aug 02 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | reporting it starts the war | Aug 02 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: i always ignore threads, for better or worse | Aug 02 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | *threats | Aug 02 20:26 |
| Ariadne | well | Aug 02 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | not threads :P | Aug 02 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | They have a lot of things that are in their risk model, and some can be controlled by you and many can't. | Aug 02 20:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | depends | Aug 02 20:26 |
| Ariadne | i got tired of | Aug 02 20:26 |
| Ariadne | starlink | Aug 02 20:26 |
| Ariadne | :p | Aug 02 20:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | from a neighbour? | Aug 02 20:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or online? | Aug 02 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | Being married is a minor positive factor in car insurance. | Aug 02 20:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | online is one thing | Aug 02 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: IRL ones | Aug 02 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | On average, your rate goes down 4% if you're married. | Aug 02 20:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I left online a false address, so usually they dox the wrong one | Aug 02 20:27 |
| Ariadne | damn | Aug 02 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | CrystalMath: well, bloody serbia :-) | Aug 02 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Being under 25 years old is a major negative. | Aug 02 20:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you're hardcore | Aug 02 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Being male is a major negative. | Aug 02 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Living in Chicago is a major negative. | Aug 02 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Bad credit....is a major negative. | Aug 02 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Renting instead of owning your home is a mild negative. Never really got that one. Just something they can hit you with I guess. | Aug 02 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Owning a home makes you less fiscally stable. | Aug 02 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or flexible | Aug 02 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to move | Aug 02 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Things happen to the home you must repair. It costs more over time. | Aug 02 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | hard to change or adapt to circumstances | Aug 02 20:29 |
| Ariadne | its ok | Aug 02 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | the jobs are more volatile now than decades ago, but if people can always work from home, it rewards home ownership | Aug 02 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Basically driving like an old grandma and being married are all you can really "control", and nobody would just get married to save 4% on insurance. | Aug 02 20:29 |
| MinceR | 02 212051 < CrystalMath> MinceR: for real, if you join a channel during a netsplit, you have to /part and /join again?? | Aug 02 20:30 |
| MinceR | no, i have to try /join later | Aug 02 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | You can get out of a Democrat Hell city. | Aug 02 20:30 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: wait what happens when you /join on a netsplit | Aug 02 20:30 |
| MinceR | and see if the dumbass ircnet ircd will tell me again that i'm not allowed to do so because of splitmode | Aug 02 20:30 |
| CrystalMath | oh | Aug 02 20:30 |
| CrystalMath | that | Aug 02 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | That's good for lots of reasons, car insurance being maybe #6-7. | Aug 02 20:30 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: well that's good | Aug 02 20:30 |
| CrystalMath | to prevent people from joining and being opped in an "empty" channel | Aug 02 20:30 |
| CrystalMath | then their ops being carried over | Aug 02 20:31 |
| Ariadne | no its not | Aug 02 20:31 |
| CrystalMath | and they could then deop everybody | Aug 02 20:31 |
| Ariadne | TS fixed that problem in *checks notes* 1995 | Aug 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for a Republican mayor this time around in Waukegan. Flipped the office. | Aug 02 20:31 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: but isn't this also safe? | Aug 02 20:31 |
| Ariadne | IRCnet just doesn't adopt TS | Aug 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody liked that Sam Cunningham guy in the end. | Aug 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | He worked with ICE, groped women, hired unqualified cronies and family members for city jobs.... | Aug 02 20:31 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: that way is "safe" in the way that putting plastic covers over old power plugs makes them safe for toddlers | Aug 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, like, it wasn't really a choice, it was a lack of options. And he raised taxes! | Aug 02 20:32 |
| Ariadne | despite shielded plugs being mandatory in the US for the past 15 years | Aug 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | The new mayor promised to do a budget cut. No new taxes. | Aug 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I like that. We need smarter government. Not higher taxes. Taxes are already too high. | Aug 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Every year under Cunningham, the taxes got higher and the roads got worse. | Aug 02 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Finally when the street department did respond to the embarrassing pictures of all of the pot craters in the industrial park, they came out and replaced part of the road. | Aug 02 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Then the rest of it disintegrated shortly after and we're back to hot patching. | Aug 02 20:34 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: does EFNet do TS? | Aug 02 20:34 |
| Ariadne | yes | Aug 02 20:34 |
| Ariadne | TS is what "the big split" was about | Aug 02 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | I at least got them to do something by taking pictures of all of that. | Aug 02 20:34 |
| Ariadne | literally, using TS or blocking /join | Aug 02 20:34 |
| CrystalMath | what were the arguments against TS? | Aug 02 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | This was the first election where I've ever split my ballot. I've never voted for a Republican until the Waukegan local election this year. | Aug 02 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | I feel like I'm probably going to do it again for Governor of Illinois next year. | Aug 02 20:35 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: how the fuck should i know | Aug 02 20:35 |
| Ariadne | in 1995 i was like | Aug 02 20:35 |
| Ariadne | 8 years old | Aug 02 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe Secretary of State too. I don't feel that the license branch is being ran efficiently. | Aug 02 20:36 |
| Ariadne | i was like | Aug 02 20:36 |
| Ariadne | climbing trees and shit | Aug 02 20:36 |
| Ariadne | not shitposting on irc | Aug 02 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | I feel that could use some improvements. A clean sweep of underperforming public workers and longer expirations on licenses. | Aug 02 20:36 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154080 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 02 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 02 20:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Indiana has a totally different system. There is a Secretary of State, but they have nothing to do with the license branch. That's an independent agency. | Aug 02 20:37 |
| MinceR | 02 212554 < schestowitz-TR> the flag is "first amendment" | Aug 02 20:38 |
| MinceR | i believe the answer is covered by the second amendment. | Aug 02 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Having the license branch under the Secretary of State brings corruption. There's huge incentive to have it hire too many people and make them all state union members. That way they spend their campaign money electing a Democrat and voting for him, and he in turn makes sure there's more useless work for them to do. | Aug 02 20:39 |
| MinceR | 02 213040 < CrystalMath> MinceR: well that's good | Aug 02 20:39 |
| MinceR | no, that's not good | Aug 02 20:39 |
| *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 02 20:39 | |
| MinceR | ircd-s designed by sane people use timestamps instead | Aug 02 20:39 |
| *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights | Aug 02 20:39 | |
| MinceR | ircnet's problem with that is that they weren't the ones who came up with that | Aug 02 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I ran into a "How to remove Edge from Windows 10." article. | Aug 02 20:40 |
| MinceR | so it must be bad | Aug 02 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Turns out, you _can_ do it, but it would definitely break the shell. | Aug 02 20:40 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: but think of the awesome reop mode :) | Aug 02 20:40 |
| techrights-news | Kernel prepatch 5.14-rc4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154045#comment-30441 | Aug 02 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14-rc4 | Tux Machines | Aug 02 20:40 | |
| CrystalMath | you set a channel flag and get reopped! | Aug 02 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is back to hardcoding things in the shell to open only in Edge. | Aug 02 20:40 |
| techrights-news | GNU C Library 2.34 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148532#comment-30442 | Aug 02 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Glibc 2.34 and Going Beyond GNU Core Utils | Tux Machines | Aug 02 20:40 | |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: oh yeah, the reop mode which doesn't fucking work | Aug 02 20:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's soft-linking | Aug 02 20:41 |
| MinceR | so it's kind of like chanfix, which also doesn't fucking work | Aug 02 20:41 |
| MinceR | but at least they showed all those people who came up with ChanServ, which does work | Aug 02 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: not true, i joined an empty channel, set reop mode, parted, joined again and i was an op! </troll> | Aug 02 20:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 02 20:42 |
| CrystalMath | ChanServ ends up requiring accounts | Aug 02 20:42 |
| CrystalMath | and passwords | Aug 02 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Edge bypasses Windows Update. | Aug 02 20:42 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: and then you end up with SASL being mandatory | Aug 02 20:42 |
| MinceR | no you don't | Aug 02 20:43 |
| MinceR | afaik there's only 1 network that's stupid enough to make sasl mandatory | Aug 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | It checks for updates itself, and they update it every few days sometimes. | Aug 02 20:43 |
| CrystalMath | nah there's more than 1 | Aug 02 20:43 |
| CrystalMath | and many that are sadly mandatory TLS | Aug 02 20:43 |
| MinceR | also, accounts and passwords are a lot easier on the network than botnets flooding each other to keep ownership of channels | Aug 02 20:43 |
| MinceR | also a lot easier on our planet | Aug 02 20:43 |
| CrystalMath | i keep a channel on efnet | Aug 02 20:44 |
| CrystalMath | only lost it twice | Aug 02 20:44 |
| CrystalMath | but we did manage to cycle :P | Aug 02 20:44 |
| CrystalMath | now it looks like somsone lost a channel that matters to me and that one's a little big to cycle | Aug 02 20:44 |
| CrystalMath | oh well | Aug 02 20:44 |
| CrystalMath | you know, happens | Aug 02 20:44 |
| CrystalMath | life is strange | Aug 02 20:44 |
| MinceR | life sucks and then you die | Aug 02 20:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | then worms suck you | Aug 02 20:47 |
| techrights-news | Links 2/8/2021: XEyes 1.2 and Fwupd 1.6.2 Released • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/02/fwupd-1-6-2-released/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/02/fwupd-1-6-2-released/ | Aug 02 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/8/2021: XEyes 1.2 and Fwupd 1.6.2 Released | Techrights | Aug 02 20:47 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: you started irc aged 8? | Aug 02 20:48 |
| Ariadne | no | Aug 02 20:48 |
| Ariadne | i started using irc at like 11 or 12 | Aug 02 20:48 |
| Ariadne | in 99 | Aug 02 20:48 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: for some reason i always assumed you were ancient | Aug 02 20:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | ancient is an interesting choice of word | Aug 02 20:54 |
| MinceR | a Great Old One? | Aug 02 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | one of the First Ones | Aug 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought I was getting old when I reached 20 | Aug 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's a point where people cannot say you're "young" anymore | Aug 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | and no wunderkind either | Aug 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "gifted child" | Aug 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | leaving early for the night, am back on work shifts tomorrow...... later | Aug 02 20:55 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▃▂▃▄▅▅▄▅▆▆▇▄▅▅▂▆▅▂▅▁▄▄▅▄▅▅▅▆▅▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 19.63 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁█▁▁▂▁▃▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▃█▁▂█▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 77.35▕ swarm size (avg): 282.61 ⟲ | Aug 02 21:05 |
| cybrNaut/fn | techrights.org is not listed on netsplit.de.. is that intentional? | Aug 02 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | > Your IRC network should have a valid user base. The threshold is currently set to 50 concurrent users. | Aug 02 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Does it really have to be? It's a specialised server after all. | Aug 02 21:15 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i guess it depends on the Techrights vision/goals. It would get some visibility on netsplit, but i guess it's a question of whether that's wanted. I guess it could be a bad thing if it gets popular and then resources have to be diverted from Techrights content to babysitting | Aug 02 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: The server is just a place for techrights' channels (and tuxmachines just because). | Aug 02 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think I started using IRC in 1998, so I would have been 13 or 14. | Aug 02 21:25 |
| cybrNaut/fn | freenode.org's landing page says: "Mark Zuckerberg, your users are not dumbfucks." | Aug 02 21:26 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i beg to differ | Aug 02 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It crossed my mind a long time ago but I keep forgetting to bring that up: tuxmachines is that one channel that has more reasons to be on a public network. | Aug 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | mIRC on Windows 98. The version that I stripped of IE and crap and put the Windows 95b shell into. | Aug 02 21:26 |
| cybrNaut/fn | I think Zuckerberg was right about thta | Aug 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | It was probably the best OS that computer was going to run at that point. | Aug 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Fairly stable and did everything I needed it to do. | Aug 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | I was a big fan of Opera. The original Opera. | Aug 02 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | It was 50 times smaller than the other browsers and loaded all the sites I used quickly. | Aug 02 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | For email, I liked both the client that came as part of Netscape Communicator 4, but the browser sucked. | Aug 02 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | I eventually used Eudora for a long time. I couldn't afford it, but I think I must have either stripped the adware out or found a serial number somewhere. | Aug 02 21:28 |
| kingoffrance | yes, old opera was small and fast compared to the competition | Aug 02 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Why do ye write from freenode though? | Aug 02 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Do ye know what to do when it collapses? | Aug 02 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually, I switched to the Opera M2 Mail. | Aug 02 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi is apparently getting a mail client like that. | Aug 02 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Sweeeeeeet. | Aug 02 21:30 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i'm still in limbo here. My freenode acct was deregistered (as everyone's) and I can't be bothered to re-register | Aug 02 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | I was so impressed by Opera 3 that I started recommending it to everyone at that point. | Aug 02 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Oh. I dare you to reconnect >:3 | Aug 02 21:30 |
| cybrNaut/fn | so if it goes south, that's fine. I know about irc.techrights.org | Aug 02 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | And managed to get it listed on some freeware sites when it became free to use. | Aug 02 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | I hyped it up years before it became crap owned by China built on Chromium. | Aug 02 21:31 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Ye are not coming back from the reconnect, just so we're clear. | Aug 02 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Which they didn't even bother to port to Linux for years after that, despite first rate support previously. | Aug 02 21:31 |
| cybrNaut/fn | xreven86 not sure what you mean | Aug 02 21:32 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i'm on freenode now, but just not registered | Aug 02 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | That smarted me. | Aug 02 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I've never promoted non-Free software like that again even if I thought it was very useful. | Aug 02 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Or efficient. | Aug 02 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | There's simply no guarantee it will remain so, and nobody can fork it if it goes bad. | Aug 02 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Yes, that's what I mean. | Aug 02 21:34 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: If ye reconnect, ye are not coming back to freenode, it's that simple. | Aug 02 21:34 |
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| cybrNaut/fn | what do you mean "reconnect"? i've reconnected now. I periodically reconnect to freenode. Though it may be less and less now that freenode is no longer in the netsplit.de listings | Aug 02 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | I need to bump LibreOffice again. They release frequently. | Aug 02 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Says 7.1.5 has 55 bug fixes, 20% of which are compatibility improvements with Microsoft formats. | Aug 02 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Which, in reality, is what everyone uses, so gotta have those. | Aug 02 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be a cold day in Hell before I ever start renting time in an online office program. | Aug 02 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Ye did? And ye didn't get "You must use TLS/SSL and authenticate via SASL to connect to freenode please visit https://irc.com/login/sso in order to create an account. SASL Configuration: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl - Webchat: https://webchat.freenode.net/"? | Aug 02 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com Login | Aug 02 21:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Connecting with SASL - freenode | Aug 02 21:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.freenode.net | Kiwi IRC | Aug 02 21:38 | |
| XRevan86 | I even tried it now to make sure they didn't back down on this. | Aug 02 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Are ye sure ye didn't register and then just forget? | Aug 02 21:39 |
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| cybrNaut/fn | i seem to recall being forced to reconfigure my client for sasl or tls or something like that.. it's not that hard. i believe everyone lost their registration, but that doesn't prevent login. It just means you can't control a channel. I may just continue with an unreg'd acct | Aug 02 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: SASL means having an account. | Aug 02 21:41 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i know i'm not registered.. #help folks on freenode just confirmed it. when i do /msg chanserv help, it's clear that i'm not registered because it doesn't show the channel registration options | Aug 02 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-eudora-email-client-source-code/ | Aug 02 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-computerhistory.org | The Eudora™ Email Client Source Code - CHM | Aug 02 21:42 | |
| cybrNaut/fn | oh, right, yeah i don't think my connection to freenode uses SASL.. i'm using sasl for other networks IIRC | Aug 02 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Eudora source code has been mostly BSD licensed. They stripped it of third party components and sanitized "bad words" in the source comments. | Aug 02 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, That 90s ad for Eudora says you can use it to email Hillary Clinton. :) | Aug 02 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Well, why are ye here then? | Aug 02 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | reconnect should've ejected you for good | Aug 02 21:45 |
| cybrNaut/fn | imagine that.. emailing Hillary in the 90s, and then finding your email today on wikileaks :) | Aug 02 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | "The last Qualcomm Windows version of Eudora continues, with some glitches, to work well under Windows 10." | Aug 02 21:46 |
| cybrNaut/fn | XRevan86: maybe SASL is only needed for registration? I'm not registered, so doesn't it naturally follows that i can connect without SASL? | Aug 02 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Probably works best in Wine. | Aug 02 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: no | Aug 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | "The Apple Macintosh version, unfortunately, did not survive the transition to the modern Mac processors and operating systems, and can now only run using emulators." | Aug 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Probably not at all on the M1 Mac. | Aug 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Macs almost never run any program that hasn't been updated for a few years. | Aug 02 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Windows can almost always run programs for at least 10-15 years, sometimes longer, after they stop getting updates. | Aug 02 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | "Although Eudora became unsupported as of 2006, some of us are in denial and still use it as our primary email client. I have over 350,000 archived messages in the Windows Eudora format going back to 1997, along with 28,000 embedded images and 33,000 saved attachments. I run it with only minor problems under Windows 10. | Aug 02 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | " | Aug 02 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of why I use IMAP. | Aug 02 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: This doesn't really make sense. | Aug 02 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: I can think of two possible explanations: 1. ye're connecting to a server that hasn't received the policy yet for some reason (do those exist?); 2. the reconnect is somehow tainted by your previous connection (or it's not a real reconnect somehow). | Aug 02 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Also, the Windows version uses a Qualcomm-modified version of RogueWave Software’s Stingray package of extensions to MFC, the Microsoft Foundation Class library for C++. After more than three years of discussion, we finally secured an agreement with RogueWave, giving us permission to distribute a binary linkable library compiled from the 20-year-old source code, but only for noncommercial use. That library is not currently part of thi | Aug 02 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | s release, but we will build and distribute it if there is credible interest in rebuilding a noncommercial Windows version of Eudora. But it will take some effort to make the changes to the RogueWave source code necessary to compile it in a modern development environment, and we could use help in doing that. | Aug 02 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | " | Aug 02 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | They had to make an even bigger mess than MFC for C++? | Aug 02 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 02 21:53 |
| cybrNaut/fn | XRevan86: the login banner suggests that i'm connected to 'libera.freenode.net', a server that i did not know existed, and my client is not configured for. My client is aware of morgan.freenode.net, hubbard.., wright..., verne.., all on ports 6697, 7000, and 7070 | Aug 02 21:56 |
| *tr_guest|15892 (~5de6147d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 02 21:56 | |
| cybrNaut/fn | perhaps one of those servers that i'm configured for redirected me to libera.freenode.net | Aug 02 21:57 |
| CrystalMath | heh | Aug 02 21:57 |
| CrystalMath | that is a real server :) | Aug 02 21:57 |
| cybrNaut/fn | but i can see that i'm certainly not using SASL to reach freenode | Aug 02 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | 1. the subdomain is hilarious; 2. it requires SASL. | Aug 02 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Can ye tell me how many users there are without using the "/lusers" command? :) | Aug 02 21:58 |
| cybrNaut/fn | from the login banner => "-!- Current local users: 1283 Max: 1391" | Aug 02 21:59 |
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| XRevan86 | Not the right one to share, but that counts indeed… | Aug 02 21:59 |
| CrystalMath | that's just libera.freenode.net | Aug 02 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | Yea, no one ever cares about that number. | Aug 02 22:00 |
| CrystalMath | i'm on arc | Aug 02 22:00 |
| cybrNaut/fn | this was also in the banner => "!- There are 2611 users and 19068 invisible on 28 servers" | Aug 02 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: How is that possible though? | Aug 02 22:00 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: hmm? | Aug 02 22:01 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: cybrNaut/fn connected god knows how long ago | Aug 02 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Why cybrNaut is able to reconnect without having a registered user? | Aug 02 22:01 |
| CrystalMath | yeah before the change, it was possible | Aug 02 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Can ye NickServ INFO him just in case? | Aug 02 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | https://computerhistory.org/blog/microsoft-word-for-windows-1-1a-source-code/ | Aug 02 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-computerhistory.org | Microsoft Word for Windows Version 1.1a Source Code - CHM | Aug 02 22:02 | |
| DaemonFC | It would be interesting to see that chart go all the way to now. | Aug 02 22:02 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i use ZNC which keeps me connected for quite long.. but i think the znc server was rebooted a couple weeks ago | Aug 02 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | How many people balked at the stupidity of Office 365 and started using LibreOffice because of that? | Aug 02 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Wait… | Aug 02 22:02 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut is *not* registered, logged on at Wed Jul 21 9:33:51 PM 2021 before the rule change | Aug 02 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Of course I mean reconnect the client that is connected to freenode. | Aug 02 22:02 |
| CrystalMath | that will knock him out | Aug 02 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | Mystery solved. | Aug 02 22:03 |
| CrystalMath | and he'll have to use the web thingy | Aug 02 22:03 |
| cybrNaut/fn | are you saying that i'm hanging on by a thread here? if my znc server is restarted, i won't get back on unless i setup sasl for freenode? | Aug 02 22:03 |
| CrystalMath | correct | Aug 02 22:03 |
| cybrNaut/fn | shit | Aug 02 22:03 |
| CrystalMath | well technically if you're registered, you can also use bnc.freenode.net :) | Aug 02 22:04 |
| CrystalMath | that has SASL | Aug 02 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: "and he'll have to use the web thingy" – what thingy? the registration page? | Aug 02 22:04 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 02 22:04 |
| CrystalMath | at least now he can do /ns register | Aug 02 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | "Over the next years Word was continually improved. The first version for Microsoft Windows was released in late 1989 at a single-user price of $495." | Aug 02 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | $495......in 1989!!! | Aug 02 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | FUCK ME. | Aug 02 22:04 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC: what a liar steve ballmer was | Aug 02 22:04 |
| CrystalMath | he said it's only $99.99 | Aug 02 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: That took took long to sink in :D | Aug 02 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | s/took took/took/ | Aug 02 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | wait… no… that made sense the first time | Aug 02 22:05 |
| CrystalMath | "took too long" | Aug 02 22:05 |
| CrystalMath | just remove the second k | Aug 02 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | yes, brainfart resolved | Aug 02 22:06 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i wasn't aware of the change.. i just wonder if i should register while i still have access. I recall something i didn't like about the registration hoops.. maybe a captcha or something. | Aug 02 22:06 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i'll have to look again | Aug 02 22:06 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut/fn: no such thing if you use NickServ | Aug 02 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Do ye have *anything* of value on freenode? | Aug 02 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: That is the real question. And I suspect the answer to be "nay". | Aug 02 22:07 |
| cybrNaut/fn | well, i want to keep a foot in each network, because Libera does some stupid shit. They have cloudflared their web gateway, and it's also impossible for me to register on libera (not sure what stopped me.. perhaps a CAPTCHA) | Aug 02 22:08 |
| *cybrNaut/fn doesn't do CAPTCHAs | Aug 02 22:08 | |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: freenode is cloudflared as well. | Aug 02 22:08 |
| CrystalMath | yeah but it always was | Aug 02 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Just like Libera. | Aug 02 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | not matter where ye draw the continuity | Aug 02 22:09 |
| cybrNaut/fn | what's cloudflared? certainly not the web gateway. I think the main page is, but that's not a big deal.. at least it's not cloudflared in a blocking way | Aug 02 22:09 |
| CrystalMath | libera is not the old freenode, the old freenode had christel as the head of staff | Aug 02 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: https://libera.chat/guides/registration no captcha | Aug 02 22:10 |
| CrystalMath | when christel left it was a hostile takeover by Fuchs and tomaw | Aug 02 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libera.chat | Nickname Registration | Libera Chat | Aug 02 22:10 | |
| cybrNaut/fn | unlike libera, where their web gateway's CF configuration is blocking Tor (forced captcha) | Aug 02 22:10 |
| CrystalMath | you can't change that fact | Aug 02 22:10 |
| CrystalMath | that hostile takeover was neutralized but i guess the lack of christel caused things to go different ways regardless | Aug 02 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That is a perspective based on freenode, Ltd. being the ultimate authority on freenode. | Aug 02 22:10 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: Christel Dahlskjaer was the ultimate authority over freenode, and she formed it, so yes | Aug 02 22:11 |
| CrystalMath | she formed it = Freenode Ltd | Aug 02 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ye can probably see how it can be a problem how the freenode staff had no connection whatsoever to its new leader Andrew Lee. | Aug 02 22:12 |
| CrystalMath | because christel continued to be the head of staff as always | Aug 02 22:12 |
| CrystalMath | until this year | Aug 02 22:12 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Yes, she had two separate positions. | Aug 02 22:12 |
| XRevan86 | in two separate entities | Aug 02 22:12 |
| cybrNaut/fn | ah, i see now what annoyed me about registering my Freenode nick: i now must supply an E-mail address. It's not as bad as having a captcha though.. perhaps a disposable address will work | Aug 02 22:12 |
| XRevan86 | Then the freenode side just went on and elected a new head of staff. | Aug 02 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | and Andrew Lee was like "wait, ye can't do that" | Aug 02 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: That's also the same on freenode and Libera. | Aug 02 22:13 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: because the staffers other than christel were terrible people like Fuchs and tomaw | Aug 02 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: So, do ye have a foot on EFnet? | Aug 02 22:13 |
| CrystalMath | if christel were to start a new network, i'd be willing to consider it "freenode classic 2" | Aug 02 22:13 |
| CrystalMath | but she'll probably elect terrible people who will just use mob tactics against her again :( | Aug 02 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c | Aug 02 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - YouTube | Aug 02 22:14 | |
| CrystalMath | libera is not freenode classic and it's ridiculous to claim that | Aug 02 22:14 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i've not used EFnet since the 90s.. but i was just thinking i should have a look at it | Aug 02 22:14 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut/fn: i'm there | Aug 02 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: It's bigger than freenode, so might be worth a look. | Aug 02 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | As are four other networks. | Aug 02 22:15 |
| CrystalMath | four other? | Aug 02 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Libera, IRCnet, OFTC and Undernet are also bigger. | Aug 02 22:15 |
| CrystalMath | oh yeah OFTC | Aug 02 22:16 |
| CrystalMath | i forgot them | Aug 02 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | In that order | Aug 02 22:16 |
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| XRevan86 | Libera: 42K, IRCnet: 23.5K, OFTC: 19K, Undernet: 16.5K, EFnet: 13.3K, freenode: 13.1K, QuakeNet: 10K | Aug 02 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: So get a foot in all of those I guess :) | Aug 02 22:19 |
| *cybrNaut/fn considers growing 3 more feet | Aug 02 22:20 | |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: I really don't know what channels ye're even in on freenode. #freenode is alive, so I guess that counts. | Aug 02 22:20 |
| cybrNaut/fn | well it's largely dead in both freenode and libera.. some activity but the division certainly slowed things down. | Aug 02 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: The undisclosed channel ye're participating in ye mean? | Aug 02 22:23 |
| cybrNaut/fn | FSF decided to migrate to Libera based on foolish reasons, then freenode got emotional about it and kicked FSF ops out of #fsf, thus burning the bridge so there is no chance of FSF reversing their decision | Aug 02 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Foolish reasons, right. | Aug 02 22:25 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: poltiical channels on freenode are alive | Aug 02 22:25 |
| cybrNaut/fn | so when the embarassment hit -- of people being forced to run non-free software to solve the captcha to attend the FSF Directory meeting via the web gateway, FSF had no recourse that wouldn't also be embarrassing | Aug 02 22:25 |
| CrystalMath | light up all the time | Aug 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | <CrystalMath> he said it's only $99.99 | Aug 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | That was for Windows. | Aug 02 22:25 |
| CrystalMath | ah | Aug 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they got that in on you it was almost $500 for the office program. | Aug 02 22:26 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I can see that working like that. Is that what cybrNaut was on freenode for though? So I'm trying to find out. | Aug 02 22:26 |
| CrystalMath | but hey you can put a ferrari onto a spreadsheet | Aug 02 22:26 |
| cybrNaut/fn | FSF was very transparent about their move from Freenode to Libera.chat.. those reasons are well documented. They even established criteria prior to the decision. But then they actually went against their criteria | Aug 02 22:27 |
| cybrNaut/fn | it was good criteria, but the rationale didn't follow from the criteria | Aug 02 22:27 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: webchat is not that important. | Aug 02 22:27 |
| CrystalMath | well i suppose freenode would not fit the criteria now | Aug 02 22:27 |
| CrystalMath | i still wish they did irc.gnu.org | Aug 02 22:28 |
| cybrNaut/fn | no webchat isn't important, but it's still an embarassment that FSF would force a segment of people to execute non-free software | Aug 02 22:28 |
| CrystalMath | cybrNaut/fn: also libera.crap has sasl-only ranges too | Aug 02 22:28 |
| cybrNaut/fn | software freedom was one of the criteria IIRC | Aug 02 22:28 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: That segment of people could use any other webchat there is, including kiwiirc.com | Aug 02 22:28 |
| CrystalMath | there are IP ranges that must use SASL so they must register | Aug 02 22:28 |
| cybrNaut/fn | XRevan86: no, same problem. kiwiirc.com is CF too | Aug 02 22:29 |
| cybrNaut/fn | i looked into the web clients on offer.. they were all CFd and/or tor-blocking | Aug 02 22:30 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: okay, let me put it this way: I don't know what channels ye're in, maybe ye're in #anime, if so, maybe freenode works for you. | Aug 02 22:30 |
| CrystalMath | #techrights :P | Aug 02 22:30 |
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| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That one hands by a thread there too. | Aug 02 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | * hangs | Aug 02 22:31 |
| cybrNaut/fn | a lot of freenode channels have become social channels | Aug 02 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That one ye should go to irc.techrights.org for. | Aug 02 22:31 |
| cybrNaut/fn | e.g. #lynx is mostly a discussion on climate chg | Aug 02 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, cybrNaut | Aug 02 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: If that's what ye're in for, then sure. | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | support still happens on freenode | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | but also on EFNet | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | so idk | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | i wouldn't say freenode is specifically for FLOSS support | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | but it is for free speech | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | which is great | Aug 02 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | only you sadly must be registered for that | Aug 02 22:32 |
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| activelow | i am registered for that, and my account was wiped | Aug 02 22:33 |
| cybrNaut/fn | a lot of channels are bogarted by assholes, and those assholes followed the crowd to Libera, so it's nice to have a parallel universe where ppl are more relaxed | Aug 02 22:33 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Isn't there free speech on Undernet? | Aug 02 22:33 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i think there is, yes | Aug 02 22:33 |
| CrystalMath | i should maybe go there sometimes | Aug 02 22:33 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Wouldn't that be a better place to be then? | Aug 02 22:33 |
| CrystalMath | i currently have no friends there | Aug 02 22:34 |
| CrystalMath | unless some of them are there but i just don't know :P | Aug 02 22:34 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: I know a person that shares the same opinion. Well, they did, now they left IRC. | Aug 02 22:34 |
| CrystalMath | it was my first network back in 2006 | Aug 02 22:34 |
| XRevan86 | Turns out, freenode is empty and has no actual social value. | Aug 02 22:34 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: 13k isn't empty | Aug 02 22:34 |
| activelow | i haven't understood yet why rasengan wiped the entire database, because anti-spam measures did not require to do so, with other options | Aug 02 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | heck, i have a channel on a network with 100 | Aug 02 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | that is the busiest | Aug 02 22:35 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: They were trying to hang out in the technical channels. Ye can see how that's a recipe for disaster. | Aug 02 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | the entire network has ~100 | Aug 02 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | i mean if you just look at freenode like any other network, it's not that bad if you already have an account | Aug 02 22:36 |
| CrystalMath | but there's little reason to start going there | Aug 02 22:36 |
| CrystalMath | it's like an exclusive club | Aug 02 22:36 |
| CrystalMath | which can be good sometimes | Aug 02 22:36 |
| XRevan86 | It doesn't look like cybrNaut is actually in all the new alive channels, apart from #freenode. | Aug 02 22:36 |
| XRevan86 | and rather in the old FOSS-y channels that are abandoned for their purpose | Aug 02 22:37 |
| CrystalMath | #fsf is repurposed but not off-topic | Aug 02 22:37 |
| CrystalMath | #perl has the same purpose as before | Aug 02 22:37 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Sounds a lot like #techrights on Libera which schestowitz keeps bringing up for some reason. | Aug 02 22:38 |
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| DaemonFC | Because some shysters like mjg59_ have taken it over. It's not real. | Aug 02 22:40 |
| XRevan86 | If it's not real, why even care. | Aug 02 22:41 |
| gustaf | there are 3 channels on Freenode with more than 300 users | Aug 02 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Reputational harm. | Aug 02 22:41 |
| cybrNaut/fn | it's always good to have other places to go for a topic when an asshat bullies people around | Aug 02 22:41 |
| gustaf | yesterady I beliebve there were 5 or 6 | Aug 02 22:41 |
| gustaf | #freenode, #networking, #linux | Aug 02 22:42 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: I even see a channel called #freerms on Libera. | Aug 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | free speech with free zlines | Aug 02 22:42 |
| gustaf | #perl has 68 users | Aug 02 22:42 |
| *cybrNaut/fn ditched Reddit entirely because of the rampant unchecked censorship and shadow banning | Aug 02 22:42 | |
| XRevan86 | surely there are more places to go than the official channel | Aug 02 22:42 |
| XRevan86 | One doesn't have to look for a rogue #fsf on a fringe network. | Aug 02 22:43 |
| cybrNaut/fn | if you want to talk shit about FSF, then libera#fsf won't pan out too well | Aug 02 22:43 |
| gustaf | #perl on Libera has more users than all but one channel on Freenode... sad to see | Aug 02 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: Ah, so it's exactly like #techrights at Libera :D | Aug 02 22:43 |
| CrystalMath | 72 | Aug 02 22:44 |
| cybrNaut/fn | not sure what you mean.. techrights official channel is techrights#techrights | Aug 02 22:44 |
| CrystalMath | oops | Aug 02 22:44 |
| cybrNaut/fn | not libera | Aug 02 22:45 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: ^ "Because some shysters like mjg59_ have taken it over. It's not real." | Aug 02 22:45 |
| CrystalMath | tried to type /72, to see what the heck i have on window 72 | Aug 02 22:45 |
| XRevan86 | cybrNaut: A rogue channel where mjg59 can talk shit about techrights. See the parallel? | Aug 02 22:45 |
| gustaf | no-one has said anything in #techrights@libera in 4 or 5 days | Aug 02 22:47 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | Your email address is not allowed, choose a different one. | Aug 02 22:47 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | ^ freenode is fussy about email address | Aug 02 22:47 |
| XRevan86 | gustaf: And there are only ~50 people here over 360 in #fsf | Aug 02 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | Different scale. | Aug 02 22:48 |
| gustaf | oh yeah no-one has chatted in #fsf@freenode since Wed... | Aug 02 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | gustaf: Oh, that's just sad. | Aug 02 22:49 |
| XRevan86 | What was cybrNaut's point again? | Aug 02 22:49 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | oftc has become more unusable. some channels now require registration, and registration requires a captcha | Aug 02 22:49 |
| XRevan86 | psychedeliacrat: Captcha is the reason why FSF decided against OFTC. | Aug 02 22:50 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | it's a good reason | Aug 02 22:50 |
| gustaf | doens't IRC.com require a captcha now too ? | Aug 02 22:50 |
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| gustaf | never checked, I regstered on fReenode before SASL became mandatory | Aug 02 22:50 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | too bad FSF didn't think that through w.r.t web gateway on libera | Aug 02 22:51 |
| MinceR | too bad the FSF ran right into the arms of its enemies | Aug 02 22:51 |
| XRevan86 | gustaf: I don't think they do, but they don't really need to. | Aug 02 22:51 |
| gustaf | psychedeliacrat/fn: too bad Freenode staff kicked them out... | Aug 02 22:51 |
| gustaf | XRevan86: I've just seen references to "unfree javascript" been thrown around | Aug 02 22:51 |
| gustaf | oh yeah there's supposed to be a curl-based workaround | Aug 02 22:52 |
| gustaf | well, Bagira did | Aug 02 22:52 |
| gustaf | he;s out too | Aug 02 22:52 |
| XRevan86 | gustaf: Well, we need a guinea pig to check :) | Aug 02 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | rasengan also didn't appreciate the FSF parroting the narrative that he's doing some kind of "hostile takeover" | Aug 02 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | which was not nice of the FSF | Aug 02 22:52 |
| XRevan86 | gustaf: People don't exactly want to register on freenode, with or without captcha. | Aug 02 22:53 |
| MinceR | and he fixed it by making it more hostile? | Aug 02 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | because it really wasn't | Aug 02 22:53 |
| gustaf | he proved them right, didn't he? ;_ | Aug 02 22:53 |
| gustaf | by doing a hostile takeover of #fsf | Aug 02 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | gustaf: hostile maybe, takeover no | Aug 02 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Aug 02 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | i mean regarding freenode | Aug 02 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | the channel was taken, certainly | Aug 02 22:53 |
| gustaf | we've been over this before, mature people talk things over, addled manchildren lash out | Aug 02 22:53 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | i'm starting to lose interest in registering on freenode.. disposable email addy rejected | Aug 02 22:54 |
| gustaf | anyway new party line is FSF is "big FOSS" | Aug 02 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | psychedeliacrat/fn: was it 10minutemail? | Aug 02 22:54 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | no, guerrillamail.com and getnada.com both rejected | Aug 02 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The problem that Christel caused is that freenode, Ltd. didn't have that much to do with freenode. | Aug 02 22:55 |
| gustaf | I used a disposable email to register an alt account when I got on bagira's shitlist | Aug 02 22:55 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: well, that problem has been fixed | Aug 02 22:56 |
| gustaf | but maybe thev've tightened that up | Aug 02 22:56 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | wtf 10minutemail.com is Cloudflare | Aug 02 22:56 |
| gustaf | *everything* is cloudflare now ;) | Aug 02 22:56 |
| MinceR | :( | Aug 02 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yea, all conflict was resolved with brute force. | Aug 02 22:56 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i fail to see the brute force | Aug 02 22:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not literal force, figuratively. | Aug 02 22:57 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | the deCloudflare project had a little known *onion-accessible disposable email service that worked great, while it was up | Aug 02 22:57 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | it wasn't blacklisted anywhere, it seemed | Aug 02 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean how Andrew Lee approaches people who don't do what he wants. | Aug 02 22:59 |
| psychedeliacrat/fn | looks like Freenode has exceeded my threshold of tolerance with registration, so I may be off freenode next time my server reboots | Aug 02 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | Andrew Lee was like a son of a passed away landlord that barged into the property and threw out everyone inside by the scruff of the neck. | Aug 02 23:02 |
| XRevan86 | … and the former landlord was an elected representative, and the inhabitants thought that this is how they handle the landlordship. | Aug 02 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | It is All Just a Big Misunderstanding | Aug 02 23:06 |
| activelow | do not know why the database was wiped: 1) it was not necessary 2) it was not benefitial for anyone and 3) it was not legal to do so either | Aug 02 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Why wasn't that legal? | Aug 02 23:06 |
| activelow | XRevan86: it isn't legal to swap the service and keep the same domain name | Aug 02 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Why not? | Aug 02 23:07 |
| activelow | XRevan86: similar to phishing | Aug 02 23:07 |
| activelow | phishing accounts with the freenode domain name (which is NOT floss) for irc.com (which isn't floss either) -> illegal | Aug 02 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I don't have a counterexample, because I don't know of any other service that made the same idiotic decision, but I'm pretty sure they can do that. | Aug 02 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | Freenode, Ltd. owns the domains, it does stuff with them, they have no obligations to the users. | Aug 02 23:09 |
| activelow | it doesn't own it legitimately anymore | Aug 02 23:09 |
| activelow | and wiping the database posed a risk formerly legitimate accounts were hijacked by imposters | Aug 02 23:10 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not sure if leeching off Shells™ is legal. | Aug 02 23:10 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: How do ye define legitimacy? Is that a legal term? | Aug 02 23:10 |
| activelow | to keep it brief: what rasengan did was violation of law in various jurisdictions | Aug 02 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: And ToS never made such assurances ever. In fact, accounts could expire. | Aug 02 23:11 |
| activelow | my account did NOT expire | Aug 02 23:11 |
| activelow | i used it and wasn't notified | Aug 02 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Just to give an example of an event that impostors could exploit. | Aug 02 23:12 |
| activelow | it was registered correctly with email adress, cert fingerprint, didn't spam or violate any ToS either | Aug 02 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Can ye give an example of a law violated? | Aug 02 23:12 |
| activelow | the imposter issue was obvious, for the reason alone project channels were hijacked posing as any official while they weren't anymore | Aug 02 23:13 |
| activelow | leave alone nicknames and accounts | Aug 02 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I get it, that's bollocks. But how is that illegal. | Aug 02 23:13 |
| activelow | XRevan86: fraud, gdpr | Aug 02 23:14 |
| activelow | i am surprise freenode domain name is pointing to online servers, and not taken down yet | Aug 02 23:14 |
| activelow | i mean, even if rasengan owns the domain name, having it pointed to irc.com servers is a severe breach | Aug 02 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: IRC.com is a question, yes. We don't know what legal entity owns IRC.com. | Aug 02 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: But if freenode, Ltd. owns IRC.com, then what? | Aug 02 23:15 |
| activelow | XRevan86: answer, rasengan | Aug 02 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I'm not rasengan. | Aug 02 23:16 |
| activelow | ? rasengan himself told he owned freenode domain and irc.com | Aug 02 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: He owns the freenode domains by being the President of freenode, Ltd., the sole owner and everything. | Aug 02 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | irc.com wasn't in freenode, Ltd.'s ownership before, it was a rasengan's pet project. | Aug 02 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | but now I really don't know, maybe he transferred it | Aug 02 23:18 |
| activelow | the moment when an account/nick appears on "freenode"/irc.com which is NOT mine this is the next escalation | Aug 02 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I'm not a lawyer, so heck if I know. I'd think that there is more substance in that one commercial entity just provides services to another commercial entity for free just because the owners are brothers. Or in how every action of rasengan tanked the value of freenode, Ltd. (except that the ) | Aug 02 23:21 |
| XRevan86 | thanks, cat, for sending an unfinished message | Aug 02 23:21 |
| MinceR | :3 | Aug 02 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | (except that the company was rudimentary, so I'm not sure if it ever had value) | Aug 02 23:22 |
| activelow | clarifying upon facts doesn't require a lawyer degree | Aug 02 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Whether what he did annoyed everyone is not a legal fact. | Aug 02 23:23 |
| activelow | of cause it is, and fraud and phishing are illegal | Aug 02 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | It's not fraud to break your toys | Aug 02 23:24 |
| activelow | international social network for developers isn't any toy | Aug 02 23:24 |
| activelow | wiping the database was insane, at least he could have asked for a confirmation email to verify accounts | Aug 02 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: He had full access to the old database, and could exploit it in any way he wanted. Including integrating with IRC.com's SSO. | Aug 02 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | Instead he dropped it and did it with a new database. | Aug 02 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | That's not fraud, that's just getting freenode from 60K to millions^W 13K | Aug 02 23:25 |
| activelow | with the same consequence: freenode domain is illegally PHISHING for irc.com | Aug 02 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye literally don't know who owns that domain. | Aug 02 23:26 |
| activelow | i mean, maybe anyone would want to document this, the timeline of events: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration | Aug 02 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Nickname Registration - freenode | Aug 02 23:26 | |
| activelow | this is how nicknames are supposed to be registered on *freenode* - good luck with that | Aug 02 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | although… | Aug 02 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | freenode, Ltd. uses Gandi for DNS, we know that, and that's also transparently displayed in "whois freenode.net" | Aug 02 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | The God given title bearer uses 101domain, and that's still the registrar of irc.com | Aug 02 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | So it's safe to say that the owner of irc.com is Andrew Lee himself. | Aug 02 23:29 |
| activelow | question the evidence now? i mean try to register an account on "freenode" according to the official documentation available, and next try "freenode" web chat | Aug 02 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: I mean the evidence that IRC.com is not the same thing as freenode. | Aug 02 23:30 |
| *XRevan86 looks down the footer: "IRC.com, LLC" | Aug 02 23:31 | |
| activelow | what rasengan MUST do is disabling freenode domain, freenode domain must NOT point to irc.com service, otherwise it is fraud, phishing, severe breach of GDPR | Aug 02 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Here's a question: so IRC.com, LLC was a thing. So when freenode and IRC.com "merged", did that mean that freenode, Ltd. and IRC.com, LLC literally merged? | Aug 02 23:33 |
| activelow | irelevant, i did NOT register with irc.com, and freenode was not merged either https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration | Aug 02 23:34 |
| activelow | nonetheless rasengang is phishing accounts with freenode domain name | Aug 02 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: How can he phish himself? | Aug 02 23:35 |
| activelow | he is phishing user/developer/project accounts | Aug 02 23:36 |
| activelow | XRevan86: i could do so with his own if he pleases, he MUST not with mine or any other | Aug 02 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: If what freenode, Ltd. did to freenode was legal, then he has every right. | Aug 02 23:36 |
| activelow | XRevan86: he could do so with his own if he pleases, he MUST not with mine or any other | Aug 02 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | but we don't even know what was in that contract that Christel signed | Aug 02 23:37 |
| activelow | a contract does not terminate law, phising and fraud are illegal | Aug 02 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: He had the old database, he doesn't need anything else to access it. | Aug 02 23:38 |
| activelow | his possession of the database probably was illegal already | Aug 02 23:38 |
| activelow | wiping it certainly was, and now phishing accounts with freenode domain for irc.com certainly is, illegal | Aug 02 23:39 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: That may be the case, it's hard to tell. | Aug 02 23:40 |
| activelow | at least it is evident without doubt | Aug 02 23:40 |
| XRevan86 | I mean the "his possession of the database probably was illegal already" thing. | Aug 02 23:40 |
| activelow | what isn't entirely clear, and this raised suspicion about libera: the involvement of other staff | Aug 02 23:40 |
| activelow | XRevan86: do you think CEO of any ISP or social media may simply delete and transfer databases as he pleases? | Aug 02 23:41 |
| activelow | imagine if your ISP decided to delete your account and terminate your phone number? without asking | Aug 02 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Depends on the contract? | Aug 02 23:41 |
| sears_hardware | i pay my isp :) | Aug 02 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: What does this have to do with Libera? | Aug 02 23:42 |
| activelow | i do not believe their staff were not involved nor had benefit somehow | Aug 02 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | They certainly didn't like that they had to give the database to a third party, and that was stated. | Aug 02 23:43 |
| activelow | they were not allowed to do so to begin with | Aug 02 23:43 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: There's something about that contract that Christel had, that the public is not allowed to know. | Aug 02 23:44 |
| activelow | in the end libera had lost almost 50% of their users | Aug 02 23:45 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Could've been 100% | Aug 02 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: There isn't a scenario where IRC doesn't lose users. | Aug 02 23:48 |
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| XRevan86 | 1. they give in, freenode still loses users because Andrew is Andrew; 2. they ignore him, the domain is redirected, freenode is reset, loses users (and then Andrew tries to sue tomaw, et al.). | Aug 02 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | 3. they leave to a new domain with the database (either keeping it or starting fresh), freenode loses users, Andrew tries to sue tomaw, et al. | Aug 02 23:52 |
| activelow | when tomaw tried to lock out Andrew since then i do not see any legal basis for tomaw being sued | Aug 02 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: For trying to seize assets of freenode, Ltd. | Aug 02 23:53 |
| activelow | and the real shitshow is what Andrew did | Aug 02 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Whether freenode is an asset of freenode, Ltd. is a big question mark. But we don't know what is in the contract again. | Aug 02 23:53 |
| activelow | freenode does not exist anymore | Aug 02 23:54 |
| activelow | the domain is only used for phishing | Aug 02 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Basically, no matter what Libera people could've done, Andrew would've wrecked the place regardless. | Aug 02 23:54 |
| activelow | DEAD: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration | Aug 02 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Nickname Registration - freenode | Aug 02 23:54 | |
| XRevan86 | There was no way out of this that is radically better than what we have right now. | Aug 02 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | from the freenode staff point of view. Andrew had more options not the wreck the place of course. | Aug 02 23:55 |
| sears_hardware | my problem is the crown prince disappearing | Aug 02 23:55 |
| sears_hardware | after you wreck the place you are supposed to rebuild it with your vision | Aug 02 23:55 |
| sears_hardware | but instead it's just left derelict | Aug 02 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | Eh, I don't know what is keeping cybrNaut on freenode. | Aug 02 23:56 |
| MinceR | what if this is his vision? :> | Aug 02 23:56 |
| sears_hardware | we know his stated vision from the news posts on freenode.net | Aug 02 23:57 |
| sears_hardware | but he just kind of makes the post then disappears for 2 weeks and makes a new one | Aug 02 23:57 |
| XRevan86 | There are networks that do a better job without epic speeches. | Aug 02 23:57 |
| sears_hardware | someone attempting to defend the crown prince would find very little material to work with | Aug 02 23:57 |
| XRevan86 | They don't have a HIH of Joseon with a perpetual friendship with the President of the United States, sure. | Aug 02 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | but apart from that freenode is redundant at best. | Aug 02 23:59 |
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