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Ariadnetwitter finally banned trumpJan 09 00:17
DaemonFC[m]"Would you shut the hell up, man!?" -TwitterJan 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]B-)Jan 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]Good. Less churnalism quoting Trump's tweets.Jan 09 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Google removed the Parler app from the Play STore.Jan 09 00:49
DaemonFC[m]If there's no Parler on iPhone, it means Trump can't install it.Jan 09 01:01
DaemonFC[m]He uses an iPhone.Jan 09 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Apple says Parler will be banned in 24 hours.Jan 09 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Unless it "cleans up the platform" by then, somehow.Jan 09 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Which means that Apple has done to Parler what it did to porn on Tumblr, which caused everyone to pile out of Tumblr and go to Reddit looking for porn.Jan 09 01:02
AriadnegoodJan 09 01:21
schestowitz[00:17] <Ariadne> twitter finally banned trumpJan 09 01:32
schestowitzurl?Jan 09 01:32
schestowitztoo late?Jan 09 01:32
schestowitzafter 5 years of race-baitingJan 09 01:32
schestowitzand threatening violence against whole countriesJan 09 01:32
schestowitzthey just try to rewrite their recordJan 09 01:33
schestowitzwhen there's nothing left for them to loseJan 09 01:33
schestowitzas he's one foot out alreadyJan 09 01:33
schestowitz[23:01] <DaemonFC[m]> And I hear that people tend to get sicker after the second dose than they did from the first.Jan 09 01:33
schestowitzI heard similar...Jan 09 01:34
schestowitzfrom a  nurseJan 09 01:34
schestowitz[21:57] <DaemonFC[m]> The fact that almost 100 people were infected in the White House Coronavirus outbreak and Pence wasn't one of them shows us how out of the loop he is.Jan 09 01:38
schestowitzmaybe he liedJan 09 01:38
schestowitzmaybe at one point he did in fact test positiveJan 09 01:41
DaemonFC[m]https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/8/22221579/discord-bans-the-donald-server-reddit-subredditJan 09 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Discord bans pro-Trump server ‘The Donald’ - The VergeJan 09 01:45
schestowitztoo lateJan 09 01:46
schestowitzpatheticJan 09 01:46
schestowitzway too lateJan 09 01:46
DaemonFC[m]https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/8/22220834/reddit-trump-subreddit-ban-violence-us-capitol-mobJan 09 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Reddit bans r/donaldtrump forum for inciting violence - The VergeJan 09 01:48
schestowitzWay, way, way too late. Symbolic at best.Jan 09 01:49
schestowitzthey wash their hands off itJan 09 01:50
schestowitz“Audio playback quality is very good, and better than in Windows. Not sure why, but I’m not complaining. Usually, it’s the other way around, so I’m quite pleased.” https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/lenovo-ideapad-3-review.htmlJan 09 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Lenovo IdeaPad 3 - New test laptop, very decent valueJan 09 02:08
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: there's a sayingJan 09 02:08
schestowitzwhich I cannot quite lucidly recallJan 09 02:08
schestowitzsomething about judging people based on difficult actions/decisionsJan 09 02:08
schestowitzwhat conde nast (reddit), discord, twitter, fb do it no heroismJan 09 02:08
schestowitzit's distorting their recordJan 09 02:08
schestowitzafter facilitating visceral hatred for half a decadeJan 09 02:09
schestowitzso I would not judge them based on the late actionsJan 09 02:09
schestowitzit's almost a reminder of how lousy they wereJan 09 02:09
schestowitzto keep regulators awayJan 09 02:09
schestowitznow it's just convenient for them to 'take a stand/stance'Jan 09 02:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19830349Jan 09 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mozilla CEO: we need more and MOAR #internet #censorship https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ I'd move away from #firefox given their general stance on these things... Jan 09 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.mozilla.org | We need more than deplatforming - The Mozilla BlogJan 09 02:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19830353Jan 09 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mozilla is not a technical company anymore. #firefox is a technical program, but it’s managed by someone who hoards millions per year while pretending to be some non-profit NGO (Foundation, not Corporation).Jan 09 02:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19830359Jan 09 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It is NOT the job of a Web browser to do #censorship or advocate for it; it's supposed to just render pages. That's what it's supposed to do. #mozilla #firefox and their slippery slope... Jan 09 02:36
vZS1As if getting rid of a few accounts and groups has any effect. At best it just lets them play the victim.Jan 09 02:40
schestowitzThis is what usually happensJan 09 02:43
vZS1It's just posturing for the new administrationJan 09 02:43
schestowitzthey carry on speaking, just elsewhereJan 09 02:43
schestowitzvZS1: yes, obviouslyJan 09 02:43
schestowitznotice the timingJan 09 02:43
vZS1If you don't see that you're blind to politicsJan 09 02:43
schestowitzFriday the week (and a half) before the fake 'left' steps inJan 09 02:43
schestowitzhttp://devclass.com/2020/12/22/go-lang-1_16-beta/Jan 09 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Two more months until Go: 1.16 beta offers improved tooling up for a test-drive • DEVCLASSJan 09 02:44
schestowitzI thin these won't be very visible anymoreJan 09 02:45
schestowitzjust "malware" talkJan 09 02:45
schestowitzbecause go is... well, a programming thingJan 09 02:45
DaemonFC[m]https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/8/22221683/trump-tried-to-evade-his-ban-with-potus-but-those-tweets-were-instantly-deletedJan 09 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Trump tried to evade his ban with @POTUS, but those tweets were instantly deleted - The VergeJan 09 02:45
vZS1Go pisses me off because it tries to tell me how to link my code togetherJan 09 02:47
vZS1I hate everything that tries to go beyond file handlingJan 09 02:47
vZS1All this module crap is forcing architecture I never asked forJan 09 02:48
vZS1Notice the oppressive module system in the new languages. Jan 09 02:48
vZS1C doesn't do all this. You always deal with just plain files. Simple, universal abstractionJan 09 02:49
vZS1include or do not includeJan 09 02:49
vZS1I have Git for structuring and automating my repositoriesJan 09 02:50
DaemonFC[m]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad-bowman-trump-saddam-husseinJan 09 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Squad member compares Trump Twitter ban to capture of Saddam Hussein | Fox NewsJan 09 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Trump was his own Baghdad Bob.Jan 09 02:51
schestowitzwaitJan 09 02:54
schestowitzlet me find link from yesterday's Daily LinksJan 09 02:54
schestowitzhttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/07/carrying-death-sentence-if-convicted-iraq-issues-arrest-warrant-trump-murder-chargesJan 09 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Carrying Death Sentence If Convicted, Iraq Issues Arrest Warrant for Trump on Murder Charges | Common Dreams NewsJan 09 02:54
schestowitzBut I liked this one even more: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/06/after-right-wing-coup-effort-dc-venezuela-offers-sympathy-us-suffering-what-it-hasJan 09 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | After Right-Wing Coup Effort in DC, Venezuela Offers Sympathy for US Suffering What 'It Has Generated' Elsewhere | Common Dreams NewsJan 09 02:54
schestowitzclassyJan 09 02:54
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cybrNautno politician should be using Twitter in the 1st place.  It's not right for /public/ officials to use exclusive private walled-gardens to interact with the /public/.Jan 09 03:04
schestowitztrueJan 09 03:04
schestowitzwe've said that for agesJan 09 03:04
schestowitzThey outsource communication to a third partyJan 09 03:04
schestowitza private company with foreign shareholdersJan 09 03:04
schestowitzand quarterly targetsJan 09 03:04
schestowitzAlso, it discriminates in accessJan 09 03:04
schestowitzthere were lawsuits over thisJan 09 03:05
schestowitzTrump blocked me in Twitter in 2017Jan 09 03:05
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cybrNautIf I want to tweet to my representative, I have to give twitter a phone number, and twitter can refuse service for any reason.  Fuck that.  The whitehouse should run its own Mastodon nodeJan 09 03:05
schestowitzmastodon is frustrating alsoJan 09 03:06
schestowitzsocial control media is a regressionJan 09 03:06
cybrNautindeed some ppl got blocked by trump, and they sued, and iirc trump was forced to unban themJan 09 03:06
schestowitzI already lost two mastodon/fediverse accountJan 09 03:06
schestowitzthe last two due to site shutdownsJan 09 03:06
cybrNautwell you always have the option of running your own instanceJan 09 03:07
cybrNauti lost a few gnu social accts due to spontaneous shutdowns without notice.. that shit is quite annoyingJan 09 03:10
schestowitzso the whole concept is shiteJan 09 03:10
cybrNautthey need to build in redundancyJan 09 03:11
schestowitzhow many times before you sto bothering?Jan 09 03:11
schestowitzwhen I joined pleroma.site I was reassured it would be online for at least 5 yearsJan 09 03:11
schestowitzit lasted only 2Jan 09 03:11
schestowitzand again I lost all so-called 'followers'Jan 09 03:11
schestowitzI'm not planning to start againJan 09 03:11
schestowitza fourth timeJan 09 03:11
schestowitzI created my own 'instance'Jan 09 03:12
cybrNautfollowers should be portable for sure, b/c you get trapped by themJan 09 03:12
schestowitzit does nor federateJan 09 03:12
schestowitzbut it won't go down as long as I am aliveJan 09 03:12
schestowitzcybrNaut: they're notJan 09 03:12
schestowitzand there's no solution or plan for oneJan 09 03:12
schestowitzand sometimes you don't even know when a site will shut downJan 09 03:12
schestowitzso no time to exporeJan 09 03:12
schestowitzexportJan 09 03:13
schestowitzpleroma.site died due to hardware issuesJan 09 03:13
schestowitzand poorly done backups it seemsJan 09 03:13
schestowitz3 times in a row not its admin is not even responding to my questionJan 09 03:13
schestowitzprior to that more than thrice in a row he enthusiastically said it was coming backJan 09 03:13
schestowitzSo I assume he gave uoJan 09 03:13
schestowitz*upJan 09 03:14
schestowitzI asked him if he can pass on the site to someone elseJan 09 03:14
schestowitzno reply, 2 daysJan 09 03:14
cybrNautbackups could be solved on the client side, but then they'd have to be reposted elsewhere all on the same date, and linkage would probably break.  Indeed it needs to evolve moreJan 09 03:14
schestowitzI thought about it a lotJan 09 03:15
schestowitzalso in relation to identi.ca a decade backJan 09 03:16
schestowitzif you care about publication and preservationJan 09 03:16
schestowitzthen focus on your own blog and siteJan 09 03:16
schestowitzuse RSSJan 09 03:16
schestowitzand build a network of sites connected to each otherJan 09 03:16
schestowitznot all this "friend" thingJan 09 03:16
schestowitzRSS readers, insteadJan 09 03:16
cybrNautwe also need a parody venue, so I can write a msg to a walled-off politician without setting foot in the walled-garden.  They wouldn't necessarily see the msg unless they know to look, but i'd accept that as an incremental evolutionJan 09 03:20
cybrNautsometimes I want to talk to a politician and they're just the prop, with the public being the actual target audienceJan 09 03:24
schestowitzAriadne: can you talk href into passing on the domain pleroma.site if he's no longer intending to fix it?Jan 09 03:25
schestowitzhe stopped replying to meJan 09 03:26
schestowitzso I assume he gave up on the restore process a week or so agoJan 09 03:26
cybrNautitnewsbot> [18:36:00] [12] Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell banned from Twitter in QAnon purge - EnlargeJan 09 03:34
schestowitzyikesJan 09 03:35
schestowitzUS of AnarchyJan 09 03:35
schestowitzand idiots in large numbersJan 09 03:36
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "the last two due to site shutdow"> GNU Social was one.Jan 09 03:40
DaemonFC[m]Did they get to Giuliani? Or was he too busy grinding on 15 year olds as he leaked hair dye to post anything outrageous lately?Jan 09 03:40
DaemonFC[m](Borat 2)Jan 09 03:40
schestowitz?Jan 09 03:41
schestowitzwhat's the connection?Jan 09 03:41
schestowitzI was alluding to the fact that over the years many sites where I posted and received content vanishedJan 09 03:42
schestowitzthe first, I believe, was digg.comJan 09 03:42
cybrNautif Twitter bans me as an activist that gives civil warnings to people about CloudFlare (and they did), then I'm happy to see mass Twitter bannings because it helps expose to others that they don't respect civil speech. Although nothing q-anon says would be civil so i guess those blocks won't drive too many ppl offJan 09 03:42
schestowitzwhere I had posted and received a lot of commentsJan 09 03:42
schestowitzUSENET is NOT like thatJan 09 03:42
schestowitzmy USENET posts and replies are still onlineJan 09 03:42
schestowitztheir model and topology was robust by designJan 09 03:42
*cybrNaut used usenet up until mixmaster broke on debianJan 09 03:43
schestowitz[03:40] <Techrights-sec> Back on topic, the current US politics are being used as a vehicleJan 09 03:43
schestowitz[03:40] <Techrights-sec> to gain acceptance for mass censorship.Jan 09 03:43
schestowitz[03:40] <Techrights-sec> Everyone is cheering the bans so enthusiastically that almost no oneJan 09 03:43
schestowitz[03:40] <Techrights-sec> is actually checking to ensure that it is in line with the constitution.Jan 09 03:43
schestowitz[03:40] <Techrights-sec> It is more than what Bush II called it, a "goddamned piece of paper"Jan 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]Twitter is self-destructing and it shut Donald Trump up.Jan 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]Where's the downside?Jan 09 03:43
cybrNautindeedJan 09 03:43
Techrights-sechttps://www.counterpunch.org/2005/12/14/quot-just-a-goddamned-piece-of-paper-quot/Jan 09 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Just a Goddamned Piece of Paper" - CounterPunch.orgJan 09 03:45
cybrNautby driving high-profile ppl off Twitter, it potentially gives exposure to Twitter's superior competition if they move to it, and that's a good thingJan 09 03:46
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: you miss the pointJan 09 03:46
schestowitzthey also delete POTUS tweetsJan 09 03:46
schestowitzit's perhaps useful for shareholdersJan 09 03:47
schestowitzbut...Jan 09 03:47
schestowitzit'll raise many questions for years to comeJan 09 03:47
schestowitzincluding:Jan 09 03:47
schestowitzwhy now?Jan 09 03:47
schestowitzwhy not ages ago?Jan 09 03:47
schestowitzhe violated policies ages agoJan 09 03:47
schestowitzbut he was still useful to their business modelJan 09 03:47
cybrNauti could create a new twitter acct and use it, but that would make me an enabler for a control freakish centralized service. So I stay away from twtr now.Jan 09 03:50
schestowitzmy twitter story in a nutshellJan 09 03:56
schestowitztmanco (tony) asked me to join identi.caJan 09 03:56
schestowitzhere in IRCJan 09 03:56
schestowitzreluctantly I eventually didJan 09 03:57
schestowitzit slowed down my posting flow in techrightsJan 09 03:57
schestowitzlater I realised that with ping.fm (IIRC) I could cross-post to TwitterJan 09 03:57
schestowitzso a Twitter account was made tooJan 09 03:57
schestowitzalso very reluctantlyJan 09 03:57
schestowitzlater joindiasporaJan 09 03:57
schestowitzwhen twitter started shadowbanning meJan 09 03:57
schestowitzlike 50 timesJan 09 03:58
schestowitzI then protested by creating also a gab account, before it was a beehive of lunaticsJan 09 03:58
schestowitzbut twitter is just there getting copies of thingsJan 09 03:58
schestowitzit's no longer attracting traffic like it did half a decade ago, they're just ad-pushing and agenda-steering now, for profitJan 09 03:59
schestowitzit's their new business modelJan 09 03:59
schestowitza lot of people quit over itJan 09 03:59
schestowitz25 days ago they also started blocking sites that don't do JS or that Twitter does not "like"Jan 09 03:59
schestowitzthat was a final nail on their coffinJan 09 03:59
schestowitznow, without trump, they have just pop stars and crapJan 09 04:00
schestowitzhopefully people will see all those sites for what they really areJan 09 04:00
schestowitzand... STOP PARTICIPATINGJan 09 04:00
schestowitzIf pleroma.site is not coming back, and it does not seem like it will anymore (he cannot recover it from backups), I won't bother with fediverse at all anymoreJan 09 04:00
schestowitzand that's a shame as Ariadne crafted a very nice bot, viera, to syndicate from there in IRCJan 09 04:01
cybrNautit's a bit of a shame the right-wing nut jobs are pushed onto Mastodon, and the pop stars who bring a huge audience of normies are still on TwitterJan 09 04:01
cybrNautwish it were the other way aroundJan 09 04:01
schestowitzit just showsJan 09 04:02
schestowitzthat this does not solve the issueJan 09 04:02
schestowitzgo back to bloggingJan 09 04:02
schestowitzthe nuts will subscribe to nuts in nutty sitesJan 09 04:02
schestowitzlike "daily stormer" (if it's still online)Jan 09 04:02
cybrNautwell, the #isolateGab movement seems to work well enough. Jan 09 04:03
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schestowitzAriadne: I've just noticed that I cannot access the containers from HV using attach -n  as per https://linux.die.net/man/1/lxc-attachJan 09 04:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.die.net | lxc-attach(1) - Linux man pageJan 09 04:24
schestowitzI'm quite sure same syntax did work last week unless my notes aren't right anymoreJan 09 04:25
schestowitzactually, seems as though I can access TR and mysqlJan 09 04:28
schestowitzbut not TM or viera, not from HV anywayJan 09 04:28
schestowitzI'm sure I could enter viera before (from HV)Jan 09 04:29
schestowitzI just want to try to work around things to make it fetch input Jan 09 04:30
Ariadneits because those containers need to be restarted after adding systemd cgroupJan 09 04:59
schestowitzsystemd ;-)Jan 09 04:59
schestowitzI was too afraid to tinker with things at this level in alpineJan 09 05:01
schestowitzafter breaking sudoers beforeJan 09 05:01
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-NickServ-schestowitz__!~schestowi@host81-152-238-156.range81-152.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Jan 09 05:12
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DaemonFC[m]doesn't visudo still exist?Jan 09 05:28
schestowitz__it dosJan 09 05:30
schestowitz__doesJan 09 05:30
schestowitz__but I did not use itJan 09 05:30
schestowitz__crontab -e also validates the filesJan 09 05:30
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: I want to revive IRC bots, one way or anotherJan 09 05:31
schestowitz__we've had them here for over a decadeJan 09 05:31
schestowitz__href from pleroma.site kept reassuring me for week the site was coming backJan 09 05:31
schestowitz__but he seems to have given upJan 09 05:31
schestowitz__after some failed attempts at restoringJan 09 05:31
schestowitz__maybe I can tweak Ariadne's bot, maybe i'll come up with something elseJan 09 05:32
schestowitz__but I am 99% sure pleroma.site won't be coming back online, which is a shame (3rd time I lose a fediverse account in less than 5 years)Jan 09 05:32
schestowitz__(which means starting again from 0 followers, 0 posts etc.)Jan 09 05:33
schestowitz__I won't be doing that anymorJan 09 05:33
schestowitz__3 strikes, you're out, fediverseJan 09 05:33
DaemonFC[m]What's wrong with mastodon.socialJan 09 05:44
schestowitz__ask me again what that TOO shuts downJan 09 05:45
schestowitz__There's no business model to these thingsJan 09 05:46
schestowitz__you rely on the mercy of people who don't give a damn about youJan 09 05:46
schestowitz__in the past few months I saw quite a few mastodon instances shut downJan 09 05:46
schestowitz__with short notice, not even a reason givenJan 09 05:46
schestowitz__maybe money and time (maintenance) Jan 09 05:46
psydroidthe only option is to host things yourself and then sync with other instances that may or may not stay upJan 09 06:38
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schestowitz__psydroid: yes, this is what I do nowJan 09 07:34
schestowitz__it used to also sync to IRCJan 09 07:35
schestowitz__soon I will figure out how to restore viera or similarJan 09 07:35
schestowitz__I think it uses ActivityPubJan 09 07:35
schestowitz__I don't know those specsJan 09 07:35
schestowitz__psydroid: going to record re Intel nowJan 09 07:36
Ariadneschestowitz__: one option might be to operate you own fediverse node.Jan 09 07:50
schestowitz__many thoughts come to mindJan 09 07:57
schestowitz__as I thought about this beforeJan 09 07:57
schestowitz__there is no guarantee all other instances would connectJan 09 07:57
schestowitz__it can become a lot of maintenance for just one accountJan 09 07:57
schestowitz__social control media is, in general, waningJan 09 07:58
schestowitz__among other thingsJan 09 07:58
schestowitz__for now I hope for a miracle from hrefJan 09 07:58
schestowitz__he said he had recovered some working bankupJan 09 07:58
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schestowitz__then several times that he was working to restore itJan 09 07:58
schestowitz__then radio silence for a weekJan 09 07:58
Ariadnei honestly grew tired of the fediverse crowdJan 09 08:03
Ariadneso much dramaJan 09 08:03
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vZS1All this federated nonsense will never lastJan 09 08:53
vZS1The answer is P2P, if you want persistence.Jan 09 08:53
vZS1And keeping things smallJan 09 08:53
vZS1P2P means people who care will help you share the burden of keeping things online.Jan 09 08:55
vZS1And it's built to work with arbitrary dataJan 09 08:55
vZS1Social media is optimised for advertising not sharing informationJan 09 08:56
schestowitz__Blogs are a lot simpler and mroe efficientJan 09 08:57
schestowitz__person X registers domain YJan 09 08:57
schestowitz__Y is hosted by ZJan 09 08:57
schestowitz__can change host to Z1, Z2....Jan 09 08:57
schestowitz__People then join each other by RSS feedsJan 09 08:57
schestowitz__so Z links to Y, which links to X Jan 09 08:57
vZS1YepJan 09 08:57
schestowitz__and XYZ can changeJan 09 08:58
schestowitz__but as long as your RSS lists are the same, you stay connectedJan 09 08:58
schestowitz__social control media puts HUGE burden on the edgesJan 09 08:58
schestowitz__if each person has his/her own instanceJan 09 08:58
schestowitz__it won't scaleJan 09 08:58
schestowitz__space, RAM, CPUJan 09 08:58
schestowitz__as you need to syndicate so much, so it then becomes a bandwidth hog as wellJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__so let's go back to RSSJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__I never wanted to leave RSS in the first placeJan 09 08:59
vZS1We never left RSSJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__but a decade ago there was corporate media hype pushing us awasy from itJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__with help from Google, then MozillaJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__which decided that RSS is somehow a fad all of a suddentJan 09 08:59
vZS1Don't forget Facebook and TwitterJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__and it stopped promoting and teaching users about RSSJan 09 08:59
schestowitz__then Mozilla hired many FB exectutivesJan 09 09:00
schestowitz__and asked us to use FB... with "containers"Jan 09 09:00
schestowitz__using FB...., "safely"... a paradoxJan 09 09:00
vZS1They're bleeding users. It's the third world, bots, and Ad revenue keeping them alive.Jan 09 09:02
schestowitz__Yes, same for shithubJan 09 09:03
schestowitz__I've long argued thatJan 09 09:03
schestowitz__no incentive for them to cut off the fakesJan 09 09:03
schestowitz__as it would scare shareholdersJan 09 09:03
schestowitz__people with multiple accounts help them game the "charts", tooJan 09 09:03
schestowitz__many joijn shithub for the fake idea that they have big share or scaleJan 09 09:03
schestowitz__much of that is fakedJan 09 09:03
vZS1Twitter is in the deepest shit because they didn't diversifyJan 09 09:04
schestowitz__Like Ashley MadisonJan 09 09:04
schestowitz__with its fake "women"Jan 09 09:04
schestowitz__and botsJan 09 09:04
vZS1At least the other big ones invested in other businessesJan 09 09:04
vZS1Twitter is a toxic share in the stock market rnJan 09 09:05
schestowitz__most companies areJan 09 09:07
schestowitz__some more than othersJan 09 09:07
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schestowitz__They should rename Wall "Madoff"Jan 09 09:07
schestowitz__because many companies boil down to a money-borrowing ployJan 09 09:07
schestowitz__propped up by taxpayersJan 09 09:08
schestowitz__or growing national debt that feeds oligarchs and their losing companiesJan 09 09:08
vZS1The one that really concerns me is CloudflareJan 09 09:10
vZS1Because that's not the web but the internetJan 09 09:10
vZS1Which is why I've been trying my best to work with alternatives to DNSJan 09 09:11
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vZS1Cloudflare are nice to their customers now but once they get dominant enough they can abuse that position.Jan 09 09:12
vZS1They've not exactly had a spotless record so farJan 09 09:13
vZS1Their stock is also attracting a hefty amount of investorsJan 09 09:13
schestowitz__they will get bought by somethingJan 09 09:15
schestowitz__looking to leverage CF for somethingJan 09 09:15
vZS1Netflix would gain a lot from acquiring CF.Jan 09 09:16
vZS1The CDN is what they're most concerned with anywayJan 09 09:16
vZS1But don't know how sound that is for their balance sheetsJan 09 09:18
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schestowitz__just spoke to BT againJan 09 09:52
schestowitz__their manager, Jan, who was supposed to phone me yesterday, did not phoneJan 09 09:53
schestowitz__not surprising given her temperamentJan 09 09:53
schestowitz__and phone for an advisor to complain about the lack of phoneball means staying on line 20-30 minutesJan 09 09:53
schestowitz__So I phoned this morning, redirected to Dublin (yes, Dublin) and after spending loads of time on the line it got disconnected or he accidentally hung upJan 09 09:54
schestowitz__wait 5 minutes, he did not even call backJan 09 09:54
schestowitz__So I call again, this get a different person (this time in Liverpool)Jan 09 09:54
schestowitz__and I managed to get him to tell a manager to phone me backJan 09 09:54
schestowitz__Joys of BT... almost 4 hours on the phone all in all so farJan 09 09:55
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schestowitz__me to viera: I am studying the source codeJan 09 10:06
schestowitz__seems unlikely or highly improbable pleroma.site is ever coming back, and viera is sort of coded to depend on that siteJan 09 10:07
schestowitz__Ariadne: would it be an easy tweak to make viera pick updates from ActivityStream in some other mastodon site?Jan 09 10:13
schestowitz__I can have a go at it, but not sure if it's strictly dependent on pleromaJan 09 10:14
Ariadneit can subscribe to any AP server actually.Jan 09 10:14
schestowitz__tuxmachines is still at @mastodon.technology/@tuxmachinesJan 09 10:15
schestowitz__https://mastodon.technology/@tuxmachinesJan 09 10:15
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schestowitz__I am looking at your code right now, really neat and tidyJan 09 10:16
schestowitz__to href; [10:25] <schestowitz__> does no answer mean that pleroma.site has been given up on? Should I just pursue an account somewhere else? Silence isn't helping. If you cannot salvage and site and if it's down permanently, please just tell me so I can move on and find an alternative.Jan 09 10:25
schestowitz__One option is, he gives upJan 09 10:26
schestowitz__and then passes the domain to someone elseJan 09 10:26
schestowitz__in which code no code changes are neededJan 09 10:26
schestowitz__there's a private key in the code, so I assume it's hard-wired for one particular connectionJan 09 10:27
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schestowitz__Phoned BT again, their manager of course 'forgot' to call backJan 09 10:53
schestowitz__You speak to a person, asking why they didn't get backJan 09 10:53
schestowitz__No response, no reason, no help givenJan 09 10:53
schestowitz__You ask to be transferred to cancellation, it rings for a while, then the line dropsJan 09 10:53
schestowitz__and nobody phones backJan 09 10:53
schestowitz__That's already the fourth time it happensJan 09 10:54
schestowitz__cannot even reach cancellationsJan 09 10:54
schestowitz__meanwhile queue on the line grew to 20 minutesJan 09 10:55
vZS1Financial Times did a piece on Assange. The comments seem to overwhelmingly be in favour of Assange. The article itself is more about Assange's lawyer.Jan 09 11:32
vZS1https://www.ft.com/content/16b8cfb2-4934-4e88-9686-ff09172e8258Jan 09 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial TimesJan 09 11:32
schestowitz__I cannot access thoseJan 09 11:33
schestowitz__can it be out on archive.is ?Jan 09 11:33
schestowitz__Oligarchs' media must be frustrated that after a decade of shit smears (sometimes LITERALLY shit) the public still supports the guyJan 09 11:34
vZS1It seems like you can access via Google news on mobileJan 09 11:34
vZS1But the website access from a browser is paywalledJan 09 11:35
schestowitz__I am writing a long piece about BTJan 09 11:37
schestowitz__for my personal blogJan 09 11:37
schestowitz__I am furious at themJan 09 11:37
vZS1I added your blog to my RSS feedJan 09 11:39
schestowitz__thank youJan 09 11:44
schestowitz__I used to blog a lot more there before techrightsJan 09 11:44
schestowitz__2006Jan 09 11:44
schestowitz__I am still uploading an Intel videoJan 09 11:44
schestowitz__it'll take another 3 hoursJan 09 11:44
schestowitz__5 hours for a 12ish-minute videoJan 09 11:45
schestowitz__this is now workable and we cannot make calls except on the landlineJan 09 11:45
schestowitz__this is what one pays 40 quid a  month forJan 09 11:45
schestowitz__google youtube also downsamples the videos (blurred) and it still occassionally bufferingJan 09 11:46
schestowitz__so it's a downstream issue tooJan 09 11:46
schestowitz__had we been in a rural area, fine, but we're  a mile away from Manc Town HallJan 09 11:46
schestowitz__'BT has succumbed to lying and cheating, for it apparently refuses to publicly acknowledge that its network cannot meet the basic capacities required (as per laws and regulations)"Jan 09 11:48
schestowitz__I have a feeling the managers may have flagged me by nowJan 09 11:48
schestowitz__for asking hard questionsJan 09 11:48
vZS1Come March, with the new Ofcom regulations in place, BT will be breaking the law if they don't meet their obligationsJan 09 11:52
vZS1I've long said that the internet should be nationalised. An email address as well is essential to people in 2020/2021.Jan 09 11:54
vZS1In a crisis like this, commercial ISPs can get away with literally bringing ruin to peopleJan 09 11:54
schestowitz__I've long mentioned...Jan 09 11:55
schestowitz__esp. wrt to EPOJan 09 11:55
schestowitz__how 'corona' became excuse for anythingJan 09 11:55
schestowitz__"we don't respect your cash"Jan 09 11:55
schestowitz__"we cannot speak to you"Jan 09 11:55
schestowitz__"appointment canceled"Jan 09 11:55
schestowitz__"no refund for called off flights"Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__"no labour right"Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__" no due process"Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__"no privacy"Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__Assange won't be freed BTWJan 09 11:56
schestowitz__so much for care "for his health"Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__the judge keeps him in prisonJan 09 11:56
schestowitz__but "corona"Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__weird timesJan 09 11:56
vZS1They can spend £16 million to monitor Assange. But these other problems don't get a fraction of that.Jan 09 11:56
schestowitz__they spent a lot more than thatJan 09 11:57
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schestowitz__the embassy siege along cost about 50 millionJan 09 11:57
schestowitz__police costsJan 09 11:57
schestowitz__til bt was born only 1981Jan 09 11:58
schestowitz__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_GroupJan 09 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | BT Group - WikipediaJan 09 11:58
vZS1Some countries like Ecuador have public internet access centresJan 09 11:59
schestowitz__they're hardly better offJan 09 11:59
vZS1But that doesn't work during a pandemicJan 09 11:59
schestowitz__many lots of people have no connections at homeJan 09 11:59
vZS1I knowJan 09 11:59
schestowitz__we can all agree BT is vastly better than in LaTamJan 09 11:59
schestowitz__my next post will focus on customer 'care' aspectsJan 09 11:59
schestowitz__they really mishandle itJan 09 12:00
vZS1Public internet is now as essential as public healthJan 09 12:00
schestowitz__I think it's a congestion issueJan 09 12:00
schestowitz__so I can almost sympathise, but they treat customers poorly Jan 09 12:00
schestowitz__they could instead apologise and say there's hope it'll improve over timeJan 09 12:00
schestowitz__evasiveness might work on less IT-savvy callersJan 09 12:01
vZS1Good luck getting any of the ISPs admitting to having a problemJan 09 12:01
vZS1The best you'll get is "scheduled maintenance"Jan 09 12:01
vZS1Also, £40/month for copper wire is ridiculousJan 09 12:02
schestowitz__line rental alone is 22 quidJan 09 12:02
vZS1You get much better for two thirds of thatJan 09 12:02
schestowitz__if you pay upfront for a year, month freeJan 09 12:02
schestowitz__you need to pay line rental for "broad"brandJan 09 12:03
vZS1Not if you use fibreJan 09 12:03
schestowitz__it's a fee-easing trickJan 09 12:03
vZS1That's only for copper wireJan 09 12:03
schestowitz__afaik, no fibre here yeJan 09 12:03
schestowitz__*yetJan 09 12:03
schestowitz__I guess that would introduce a different issue:Jan 09 12:04
schestowitz__no landlineJan 09 12:04
schestowitz__which we need, we don't do 'smart' phonesJan 09 12:05
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vZS1All landlines are shared between the companies anywayJan 09 12:07
vZS1It's not like each company digs up the road for their own cablesJan 09 12:07
schestowitz__yes, I knowJan 09 12:07
schestowitz__I mention this in my draftJan 09 12:07
vZS1YeahJan 09 12:08
schestowitz__tbh, I don't carefully proofread for my blogJan 09 12:08
vZS1I saw the blog post tooJan 09 12:08
schestowitz__as its readership is lower than TR'sJan 09 12:08
vZS1It mentions itJan 09 12:08
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vZS1Back to the Financial Times post for a secJan 09 12:10
vZS1Many people in the comments defended Assange. Most didJan 09 12:11
vZS1Several people pointed out entire lists of things the FT piece left outJan 09 12:12
vZS1There were a lot along the lines of "war crimes you can get away with but not free journalism"Jan 09 12:12
vZS1A few pointed out that the Swedish charges magically disappeared after the US extradition requestJan 09 12:13
vZS1I think they misjudged how their readership would react to the pieceJan 09 12:14
vZS1Tremendously backfired on them, it seems.Jan 09 12:14
vZS1One person even mentioned (this was one item in their list) how Wikileaks found out that "smart" TVs by the big names like LG and Sony were planning to use the built-in microphones to record and transmit without the customer knowing. So the manufacturers are basically in with the spying agencies to expand the surveillance machineJan 09 12:17
vZS1The one I was most satisfied to see is when several readers pointed out that the media is involved in character assassination of Assange instead of covering what's actually in WikileaksJan 09 12:19
schestowitz__<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Group" title="BT Group">BT</a> has succumbed to <b>lying and cheating</b>, for it apparently refuses to publicly acknowledge that its network cannot meet the basic capacities required (as per <b>laws and regulations</b>, even <strong>contractually</strong> w.r.t. clients)</em>Jan 09 12:20
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schestowitz__<p><img title="B" src="/IMG/Caps/b.png" alt="B" hspace="0" vspace="4" align="left" border="0"/>T, or British Telecom, is probably the company I dislike the most. But at the same time they're as a de facto monopoly here, merely disguised as having 'opened up' (a sort of openwashing, including 'open'reach). I spent nearly a decade writing about BT, as they <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/01/18/bt-three-lies-in-Jan 09 12:20
schestowitz__three-weeks/" title="BT: Three Lies in Three Weeks">kept lying to me</a>, they have lied to me <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/06/coronavirus-bt/" title="Coronavirus May Have Caused a Nationwide or Regional Congestion Crisis for BT">a great deal this past week</a>, and getting a connection from them <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/25/avoid-bt/" title="BT is Rubbish">was exceptionally Jan 09 12:20
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schestowitz__painful to begin with</a>. The worst experience I ever had with them was in 2015 [<a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/04/30/bt-complaints-again/" title="BT Complaints Again (Updatedx14)">1</a>, <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/05/16/faulty-bt-network/" title="BT Takes Two Months to Bother Fixing Faulty BT Network for Entire Neighbourhood (Updatedx20)">2</a>, <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/Jan 09 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » BT Complaints Again (Updatedx14)Jan 09 12:20
schestowitz__archives/2015/06/23/bt-rein/" title="BT Update: Precision Test Officer to be Sent Out After 3 Months (Updatedx9)">3</a>, <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/07/22/openreach-lines-monopoly/" title="Moving the Whole Neighbourhood Away From BT and BT Openreach Lines (Updated)">4</a>]. I must have lost like 50 working hours due to the issues back then. Even in prior years I had serious issues [<a href="http://schestowitzJan 09 12:20
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schestowitz__com/Weblog/archives/2014/01/09/bt-forget-to-call-back-again/" title="BT Can’t Call Back, They ‘Forget’">1</a>, <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/05/12/2013-bt-saga/" title="BT Support: Too Hard to Return a Call">2</a>] and the only thing I can say to their credit is that over the past half a decade it was rarely a bumpy ride... until 5 days ago.</p>Jan 09 12:20
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schestowitz__So, why am I still with BT? I wrote about that 10 years ago [<a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/23/choosing-isp-in-the-uk/" title="My BT Nightmare (and How to Choose an ISP in the UK)">1</a>, <a href="http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/25/bt-customer-part-3/" title="What It’s Like to be a BT Customer">2</a>]. Basically, since they own and control the entire underlying network (utility providers don'Jan 09 12:20
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schestowitzsorry, wrong box pasted inJan 09 12:21
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/09/bt-is-down/Jan 09 12:21
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schestowitzthis is the correct one, typos likeltyJan 09 12:21
schestowitzI am exhausted by thisJan 09 12:21
schestowitztaking a break from pursuing it for nowJan 09 12:21
schestowitzvZS1:  re Assange, yes, but many fell for the smearingJan 09 12:23
schestowitzas you can see in yesterday's IRC logsJan 09 12:23
schestowitzsome even become willing participants in the smearingJan 09 12:23
vZS1I have an ignore list for a reasonJan 09 12:24
schestowitzbonus: the latter types sometimes work for companies that commit or profit from the war crimesJan 09 12:24
schestowitzand they call themselves "social justice warriors"Jan 09 12:24
vZS1I'd like to focus on the positivesJan 09 12:24
schestowitzexperience suggest that those who called >themselves< that mostly attempt to distract from real issues like millions of bombed Arabs to some BS 'causes' of so-called 'snowflakes'Jan 09 12:24
schestowitzbcause they'd rather talk of corporate "Responsibility" or "Diversity" or whatnot as if those are the worst's most uregnt issueJan 09 12:25
schestowitzand don't forget the "Racist" statuesJan 09 12:25
schestowitzvery, very urgent... more than stopping the bombsJan 09 12:25
vZS1Many FT readers also pointed out how the judge used medical grounds to chicken out of supporting Assange. The judge agreed with the extradition request's argumentsJan 09 12:25
schestowitzyeah, that tooJan 09 12:26
schestowitzbut it could be worseJan 09 12:26
vZS1I'm sorting out some paperwork atmJan 09 12:26
vZS1But I should be done soonJan 09 12:26
schestowitzthere were worse potential outcomesJan 09 12:26
schestowitzI think Assange's legal team chose this strategy and a fallback and only this fallback workedJan 09 12:26
vZS1I'll send you screenshots of the FT post and commentsJan 09 12:26
schestowitzcheersJan 09 12:26
schestowitzmaybe another video to do? TBH, it would be too repetitive to be worth itJan 09 12:27
schestowitznews is slow today though, I wasted 3 hours on the phoneJan 09 12:27
vZS1I'll also do that IPNS how-to for TR today.Jan 09 12:27
schestowitzI asked Techrights-sec if we should do something about the censorship campaignsJan 09 12:28
schestowitzthe whole mozilla, trump etc.Jan 09 12:28
schestowitzbut it's too politically-charged and tribalism would spoil the substance of the debate/constitutionJan 09 12:28
vZS1Worth covering. Freedom of speech means the same for us as for Cheeto HitlerJan 09 12:28
vZS1You don't need to take sides when writing about censorship.Jan 09 12:32
schestowitz" Cheeto Hitler" became a thingJan 09 12:33
schestowitzit came from MinceRJan 09 12:33
schestowitzquote sent to me by email this morningJan 09 12:34
schestowitz=Jan 09 12:34
schestowitzhttps://boingboing.net/2021/01/08/trump-suspended-from-twitter.htmlJan 09 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Twitter bans Trump permanently | Boing BoingJan 09 12:34
schestowitz# the process of removing the cheeto nazi for his illegal acts,Jan 09 12:34
schestowitz# is being used to usher in acceptance of heavy censorshipJan 09 12:34
schestowitz# see also Apple's requirement for a "moderation system" inJan 09 12:34
schestowitz# its app storeJan 09 12:34
schestowitz"cheeto nazi"Jan 09 12:34
schestowitzlolJan 09 12:34
schestowitzthat person reads our IRC logsJan 09 12:35
vZS1Mobs on social media will usher in acceptance of heavy censorship. This is very trueJan 09 12:35
vZS1People are celebrating the social media bans when they should be abhorred by themJan 09 12:36
schestowitzthere are other optiobsJan 09 12:37
schestowitzI think social control media is toxic by designJan 09 12:37
schestowitzI once watched a video that put it nicelyJan 09 12:37
vZS1Until it becomes acceptable and becomes legislationJan 09 12:37
schestowitzthe problem is what unlike a forum such as this (IRC., newsgroups),Jan 09 12:37
schestowitzyou put together in one platform many opposed groupsJan 09 12:37
schestowitzthat would not otherwise blend inJan 09 12:37
schestowitzlike a party of the KKK in the same room with BLMJan 09 12:37
schestowitzthat increases hostilities and at the same time creates factionsJan 09 12:38
schestowitzin the same platformsJan 09 12:38
schestowitzcontrariwiseJan 09 12:38
vZS1Don't forget they profit off every type of interactionJan 09 12:38
schestowitzin street protestsJan 09 12:38
vZS1Their goal is to maximise interactionJan 09 12:38
schestowitzyou have police on horses or with shields to separate the factiosJan 09 12:38
schestowitzthat's lacking in social control mediaJan 09 12:38
schestowitznot "interaction" :)Jan 09 12:39
schestowitzthey call it "ENGAGEMENT"Jan 09 12:39
schestowitzlike, customer engagementJan 09 12:39
schestowitzthis week I learned several times BT does not have 'cancellations"Jan 09 12:40
schestowitzor "customer support"Jan 09 12:40
schestowitzor "customer retention"Jan 09 12:40
schestowitzthey call it "loyalty"Jan 09 12:40
schestowitza positive-sounding BSJan 09 12:40
vZS1Indeed. Many people pay more attention to social control media than their own spouse.Jan 09 12:40
schestowitzso pissed off customers ------------> LOYaLTYJan 09 12:40
vZS1So they are practically engaged to their accountsJan 09 12:40
schestowitz"Mark was so pissed off that he phoned up LOYALTY"Jan 09 12:40
schestowitzI'm not done with BTJan 09 12:41
schestowitzbut for my composure I take a break from itJan 09 12:41
schestowitzI don't want to do article/video about the Trump banJan 09 12:41
schestowitzit's way too politically-loaded and binaryJan 09 12:41
schestowitzI need a little break tbhJan 09 12:41
schestowitzto think what matters most to free softwareJan 09 12:42
vZS1Take a break thenJan 09 12:42
schestowitzI was going to do some coding on viera, it's that bot you saw here syndicating linux newsJan 09 12:42
schestowitzit's written in pythonJan 09 12:42
vZS1Yeah. Tinker with that relax a bitJan 09 12:42
schestowitzpleroma.site looks like a goner, which is  a shame because Ariadne spent ages building it from the ground up and then babysitting it for a long time while taking endless abuse from literally neonazisJan 09 12:43
schestowitzif I cannot cope with that code, I'll write my ownJan 09 12:43
schestowitzAriadne is a reallt awesome dev, really clean codeJan 09 12:44
schestowitzelegant, but python isn't my choice of lang and it has lots of APIs I don't know like the fediverse onesJan 09 12:44
schestowitzover the past 12 years we had at least 4 bots to syndicate members' statusnet and twitter accountsJan 09 12:45
schestowitzthe APIs keep changing, breaking, sites go offlineJan 09 12:45
schestowitzwelcome to the wwwJan 09 12:45
schestowitzwhere median age of info before going offline is maybe 5 yearsJan 09 12:46
schestowitzshelf life of a little reptileJan 09 12:46
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schestowitzAriadne: is there an easy way to turn viera into a command line prompt that takes a line and feeds it into the IRC bots instead of via AP? I am trying to accomplish that by studying the classes and objects...Jan 09 13:10
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vZS1Python is worth tolerating. You'll find it everywhere. It's pragmatic to stay familiar with it.Jan 09 13:12
Ariadnethere’s better software for thatJan 09 13:13
schestowitzirc clients?Jan 09 13:14
schestowitzncurses?Jan 09 13:14
Ariadnei wrote viera to reflect AP into IRC messagesJan 09 13:14
schestowitzI see some IRC code you wrote in 2014Jan 09 13:14
Ariadnei think suckless makes an irc client you can cat toJan 09 13:14
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schestowitzto comply with RFCs i am not familiar with Jan 09 13:15
schestowitzwith viera it can reach multiple channels in one fell swoopsJan 09 13:15
schestowitzfor tuxmachines, which is in 3 channelsJan 09 13:15
schestowitz  channels:Jan 09 13:16
schestowitz    - '#litepub'Jan 09 13:16
schestowitz    - '#litepub-test'Jan 09 13:16
schestowitz    - '#techrights'Jan 09 13:16
schestowitz    - '#boycottnovell-social'Jan 09 13:16
schestowitz    - '#tuxmachines'Jan 09 13:16
schestowitzalternatively I suppose I could just direct all my own (not just TM) posts here, but some are political and not technicalJan 09 13:17
schestowitzhttps://tools.suckless.org/ii/Jan 09 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tools.suckless.org | tools | suckless.org software that sucks lessJan 09 13:18
Ariadneanyway viera is designed to operate as fediverse node and reflect subscriptions to different channelsJan 09 13:19
schestowitzjust compiled iiJan 09 13:20
schestowitzwill test itJan 09 13:20
vZS1_2Can't access the FT article on Assange anymore. Jan 09 13:21
vZS1_2Asking me to subscribe now. Probably had a timer on it.Jan 09 13:21
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vZS1_2schestowitz: I sent the IPNS howto by email.Jan 09 13:47
schestowitzthanks, I will check emails later todayJan 09 13:47
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ii-techrights-bothis is a testJan 09 13:49
schestowitzok, niceJan 09 13:49
schestowitzso basically it is all filesystem basedJan 09 13:49
schestowitzI wrote my "tweets" or whatnot to a fileJan 09 13:49
schestowitzand then the bot picks it upJan 09 13:49
schestowitzinstalling to /binJan 09 13:49
vZS1_2>so basically it is all filesystem basedJan 09 13:51
schestowitzI think I can how to split by topic/scopeJan 09 13:51
vZS1_2As it should beJan 09 13:51
schestowitzyes, I just write to diskJan 09 13:52
vZS1_2Everything should be a fileJan 09 13:52
vZS1_2It's transparent and elegantJan 09 13:52
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schestowitzWish I had known earlier that pleroma.site is not coming backJan 09 13:54
schestowitzI'd have done this within daysJan 09 13:54
schestowitzmade wrong assumptions about resumptionsJan 09 13:54
vZS1_2I always assume anything I use can disappear in 5 minutes.Jan 09 13:56
vZS1_2Particularly APIs. Those can vanish in 5msJan 09 13:57
ii-techrights-boIRC=$(xclip -o) echo $IRC > ~/Desktop/Text_Workspace/images/ii-1.8/techrights2/irc.freenode.net/#techrights/inJan 09 13:58
schestowitzthis was intentional Jan 09 13:59
schestowitzand it workedJan 09 13:59
schestowitzit pasted the code that ran itJan 09 13:59
schestowitztakes it from the clipboardJan 09 13:59
schestowitznow let's try a real thingJan 09 13:59
ii-techrights-bo● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ As Pro-Trump Mob Boasts About Roles in Deadly Capitol Invasion, Indigenous Water Protecters Charged for Peaceful Keystone XL Protests https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/08/pro-trump-mob-boasts-about-roles-deadly-capitol-invasion-indigenous-water-protectersJan 09 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As Pro-Trump Mob Boasts About Roles in Deadly Capitol Invasion, Indigenous Water Protecters Charged for Peaceful Keystone XL Protests | Common Dreams NewsJan 09 14:00
schestowitzyayJan 09 14:00
schestowitzI'll need to split that apart from linux thingsJan 09 14:00
schestowitzsome bash conditional statements based on mouse positionJan 09 14:01
ii-techrights-boWorking with ii of suckless. What a wonderful yet small utility. #sucklessJan 09 14:05
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techrights-botFirst Look at #KDE Plasma’s New Kickoff Applications Menu • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146294 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Look at KDE Plasma’s New Kickoff Applications Menu | Tux MachinesJan 09 14:30
vZS1_2I'm tweaking the settings of my IPFS nodes. They seem to crash if you've got over 900 peers connected at a time.Jan 09 14:31
vZS1_2I capped the max peers at 200Jan 09 14:31
techrights-bot#KDE Frameworks 5.78 Brings Support for the #AV1 Image Format to All KDE Apps, More • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146295 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.78 Brings Support for the AV1 Image Format to All KDE Apps, More | Tux MachinesJan 09 14:32
schestowitzI hope the bot isn't too annoyingJan 09 14:32
vZS1_2Doesn't bother me.Jan 09 14:32
schestowitzthose will always be 1) technicalJan 09 14:33
schestowitzand 2) new/newsJan 09 14:33
schestowitzthis is also very extensibleJan 09 14:34
schestowitzyou can send output to the files to reflect stuff like channel/site status or anything breaking newsJan 09 14:35
schestowitzprovided it's in i/oJan 09 14:35
schestowitzso in theory alerts, breaking processes etc.Jan 09 14:35
schestowitzbut must be of general interest to all, obviouslyJan 09 14:35
vZS1_2That's because it's a sane CLI toolJan 09 14:36
vZS1_2Not some bloated crapwareJan 09 14:36
schestowitzI also have viera hv access Jan 09 14:36
schestowitzI had to restart that container, as Ariadne suggestedJan 09 14:36
schestowitzVery nice code there, but I think the dependence on AP means that for now it's unable to do very much. For now..Jan 09 14:37
vZS1_2I've not heard of suckless beforeJan 09 14:37
schestowitzvZS1_2: wowJan 09 14:37
schestowitzI thought it was well knownJan 09 14:37
schestowitzvery extensive toolsetJan 09 14:37
vZS1_2Looks pretty neat.Jan 09 14:38
schestowitzthe ii program is tinyJan 09 14:38
schestowitzvery unityJan 09 14:38
schestowitzunixyJan 09 14:38
schestowitzit's all pipes and filesJan 09 14:38
schestowitzii -s irc.freenode.net -i techrights2  -n techrights-botJan 09 14:38
schestowitz echo '/j #techrights' > ~/Desktop/Text_Workspace/images/ii-1.8/techrights2/irc.freenode.net/inJan 09 14:39
schestowitzto join channelJan 09 14:39
schestowitzand...Jan 09 14:39
schestowitzto post:Jan 09 14:39
schestowitzIRC=$(xclip -o)Jan 09 14:39
schestowitz        echo $IRC > ~/Desktop/Text_Workspace/images/ii-1.8/techrights2/irc.freenode.net/#techrights/inJan 09 14:39
schestowitzthere's a MAKEFILE in the gzipJan 09 14:39
schestowitzand it works without dependency hellsJan 09 14:39
schestowitzI can post the lines to IRC with my 5th mouse buttonJan 09 14:40
schestowitzsome go to 3 channels at onceJan 09 14:40
schestowitzusing xbindkeys and moreJan 09 14:40
vZS1_2That's how programs should be writtenJan 09 14:47
schestowitzfinishing the Intel postJan 09 14:50
schestowitzhey, maybe I can do an irc bot cron job for ipfsJan 09 14:50
schestowitzbut I need to think how to present itJan 09 14:50
schestowitzone option is, as soon as logs for IRC get generated the URL shows up hereJan 09 14:50
schestowitzanother is, ipfs will spew out new CIDs as soon as they're added (for people to pin)Jan 09 14:51
schestowitzmaybe this evening i'll look into itJan 09 14:51
techrights-bot#InteLeaks – Part IX: #Vapourware at #Intel and Assessments With Conflict of Interest • ᴛᴇᴄʜʀɪɢʜᴛꜱ ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/09/vaporware-at-intel/ •●• #GNU #LinuxJan 09 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part IX: Vapourware at Intel and Assessments With Conflict of Interest | TechrightsJan 09 14:57
vZS1_2My IPFS node crashed twice in the last two days. Something about too many files being open. I suspect it's something to do with too many simultaneous peers.Jan 09 15:00
schestowitzevery day @2:40 a cron job on my pc runs the irc logs generation scriptsJan 09 15:01
schestowitzauto-piloted, been working well for nearly a weekJan 09 15:01
schestowitzI'll see if I can make it advertise them here by writing to the irc fileJan 09 15:02
vZS1_2I haven't got any system in place to recover a crashed IPFS daemon, yet. I'll probably do that some time soon.Jan 09 15:02
vZS1_2I'll probably hack together some sort of monitoring GUI later.Jan 09 15:06
vZS1_2gnuplot, perhaps.Jan 09 15:07
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techrights-bot*** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂   𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-080121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-080121.txt Read the log now...Jan 09 15:20
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schestowitzOK, those are automated now, in the nightlyJan 09 15:21
schestowitznow let's do ipfs linksJan 09 15:21
schestowitzor bulletinJan 09 15:21
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/WlEFVjY.mp4Jan 09 15:26
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techrights-bot*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-08.txtJan 09 15:30
schestowitzthis was done from a script that does the bulletinsJan 09 15:34
schestowitzso it's in the cycle nowJan 09 15:34
techrights-botThis tweet is worth it only for the comments. #mozilla isn't a technical entity anymore. https://twitter.com/mozilla/status/1347633954497548289Jan 09 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mozilla: This week we saw the culmination of a four-year disinformation campaign orchestrated by the President. We have to a… https://t.co/jLmttSH6X8Jan 09 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mozilla: This week we saw the culmination of a four-year disinformation campaign orchestrated by the President. We have to a… https://t.co/jLmttSH6X8Jan 09 15:46
techrights-bothttps://twitter.com/ericajoy/status/1344654006245703681Jan 09 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EricaJoy: 2021 ally challenge: if a product, service, or company is built by either all men or all white people, you don’t u… https://t.co/L2MGNfeHulJan 09 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EricaJoy: 2021 ally challenge: if a product, service, or company is built by either all men or all white people, you don’t u… https://t.co/L2MGNfeHulJan 09 15:47
techrights-botConflating #trumpism with something else to paint those who oppose #socialcontrolmedia #censorship as radical or make them seem like "Trump supporters" and bigots https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/Jan 09 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | We need more than deplatforming - The Mozilla BlogJan 09 15:49
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techrights-botYou Can Now Upgrade from #LinuxMint 20 to Linux Mint 20.1, Here’s How • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146296 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Upgrade from Linux Mint 20 to Linux Mint 20.1, Here's How | Tux MachinesJan 09 16:19
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techrights-botAnother example of the sorts of things that are happening inside #Intel and almost nobody (from the outside) knows about http://techrights.org/2021/01/09/vaporware-at-intel/Jan 09 16:20
techrights-bot"In particular, it reasoned that, where the elements of similarity between two signs result from a common weak distinctive component (‘ATHLON’ in this case), the impact of those elements on the global assessment of the likelihood of confusion is in itself low." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/athlon-custom-sportswear-found-not.htmlJan 09 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | 'ATHLON CUSTOM SPORTSWEAR’ found not confusingly similar to ‘DECATHLON’ - The IPKatJan 09 16:22
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/Qrns71s.mp4Jan 09 17:30
XRevan86MinceR: These turnstiles look like they're made to make it easy to jump over them.Jan 09 17:34
MinceR:)Jan 09 17:34
XRevan86https://ss.metronews.ru/userfiles/materials/156/1567809/858x540.jpgJan 09 17:36
XRevan86https://themoscowtimes.com/2017/11/16/a59590 found out only now about this :DJan 09 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Russian Sculptor Wants to Gift Putin-Bear Statue to the PresidentJan 09 17:43
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MinceRit's hideousJan 09 17:46
MinceRfits POO IN A TIN wellJan 09 17:46
XRevan86A guy in Astrakhañ got a business subsidy and invested it all into making a scrupture of a Bear-Gryphon-Putin thing with a fish in its claws.Jan 09 17:48
XRevan86Possibly not a Gryphon but an angel or something, hard to tell.Jan 09 17:49
MinceRhe should have done this instead >> (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMTMK-mp7wJan 09 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Putin on the Ritz - YouTubeJan 09 17:49
CrystalMathlolJan 09 17:50
CrystalMaththat title is pretty funnyJan 09 17:50
XRevan86The fish is a sturgeon however, that is known.Jan 09 17:50
XRevan86MinceR: This is beautifulJan 09 17:52
MinceR:)Jan 09 17:52
XRevan86https://mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11540584.ece/alternates/s615b/putin-statue.jpgJan 09 17:53
CrystalMath"the eagle that the bear is stepping on symbolizes Russia’s enemies, he added"Jan 09 17:55
CrystalMathgee, i wonder which oneJan 09 17:55
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XRevan8649 times we fought that beast. Your old man and me. It had angel wings with bear claws; with a Putin's face too. And it was waiting in the bushes for us…Jan 09 17:56
CrystalMathif only it was clear which country uses an eagle for its symbolJan 09 17:56
XRevan86CrystalMath: Russia does :DJan 09 17:56
MinceRmany countries doJan 09 17:56
MinceRbut yeah, russia is the country putin has done the most harm toJan 09 17:56
CrystalMathnot reallyJan 09 17:57
CrystalMathhe's way better than YeltsinJan 09 17:57
MinceRlooks like this "sculptor" has never seen a bear, not even in picturesJan 09 17:57
CrystalMathi wouldn't think anything of this statue thingJan 09 17:57
CrystalMathit says the same guy made them before and nobody caredJan 09 17:57
CrystalMaththey're all in his personal galleryJan 09 17:58
XRevan86CrystalMath: At least Yeltsin was brief.Jan 09 17:58
MinceRi don't see how yeltsin comes into a comparison between the damage putin did to various countriesJan 09 17:58
MinceRhe's neither putin nor a country, as far as i knowJan 09 17:59
XRevan86Putin can also be considered one of the Yeltsin's sins.Jan 09 17:59
XRevan86the last contributionJan 09 17:59
MinceRhttps://www.quora.com/How-many-countries-have-a-national-flag-with-an-eagle?share=1Jan 09 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How many countries have a national flag with an eagle? - QuoraJan 09 18:00
MinceRPoland has an eagle in its crest as wellJan 09 18:00
MinceRor coat of arms, or whateverJan 09 18:01
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)#Modern_usageJan 09 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eagle (heraldry) - WikipediaJan 09 18:01
CrystalMathand the roman (byzantine) empire, during the Palaiologos eraJan 09 18:01
CrystalMaththat eagle was copy pasted to every country of the balkansJan 09 18:02
XRevan86Well, pretty much everyone took it from the Romans.Jan 09 18:02
MinceRwhat have the romans ever done for us?Jan 09 18:03
XRevan86CrystalMath: It's also important to remember that the political elite from the Yeltsin era didn't magically disappear.Jan 09 18:03
MinceRfor example, there was a certain director of the FSB...Jan 09 18:04
XRevan86CrystalMath: I think the most bright example is Anatoly Chubais, whom everyone hated in the 90s but who is a big figure in the Putin's apparatus.Jan 09 18:05
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XRevan86The infamy is so big that even putinists use Chubais as an example of 90s villainy.Jan 09 18:09
XRevan86Just another example of double-think.Jan 09 18:09
MinceR:>Jan 09 18:12
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-v6kyEDCNoJan 09 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Smallest Windows PC in 1995 Was Also a Phone! IBM Palm Top PC110 - YouTubeJan 09 18:56
schestowitz[17:53] <XRevan86> https://mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11540584.ece/alternates/s615b/putin-statue.jpgJan 09 19:05
schestowitz[17:55] <CrystalMath> "the eagle that the bear is stepping on symbolizes Russia’s enemies, he added"Jan 09 19:05
schestowitzBear stepping on Putin?!Jan 09 19:05
XRevan86The Bear *is* PutinJan 09 19:06
XRevan86ahJan 09 19:06
schestowitzbut..Jan 09 19:06
XRevan86just got the idea %)Jan 09 19:06
schestowitz" symbolizes Russia’s enemies"Jan 09 19:06
XRevan86schestowitz: got it, got itJan 09 19:06
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techrights-bot#PeaZip 7.7.0 • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146297 •●• #deletegithubJan 09 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PeaZip 7.7.0 | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:21
techrights-bot#Purism and #Linux 5.8 • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146298 •●• #GNU #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Purism and Linux 5.8 | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 09 19:23
techrights-bot#KDE Frameworks 5.78.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146295#comment-27732 #gnu #linuxJan 09 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.78 Brings Support for the AV1 Image Format to All KDE Apps, More | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:25
techrights-bot#LinuxMint 20.1 “Ulyssa” Officially Released [How to Upgrade] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146269#comment-27733 #gnu #linuxJan 09 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.1 “Ulyssa” Cinnamon released! | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:26
techrights-botStable Kernels: 5.10.6, 5.4.88, 4.19.166, 4.14.214, 4.9.250 , and 4.4.250 • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146300 •●• #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.6, 5.4.88, 4.19.166, 4.14.214, 4.9.250 , and 4.4.250 | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:27
techrights-bot7 Essential Tools to #Search the Filesystem • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146299 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Essential Tools to Search the Filesystem | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:30
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techrights-bot7 Best #Ubuntu live USB creators to Download & Use • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146301 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Best Ubuntu live USB creators to Download & Use | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:37
techrights-bot#ECS LIVA Q1A Arm mini PC runs Linux or Android on #Rockchip RK3288 or RK3399 SoC ⇨ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/09/ecs-liva-q1a-arm-mini-pc-runs-linux-or-android-on-rockchip-rk3288-or-rk3399-soc/ •●• #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftwareJan 09 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | ECS LIVA Q1A Arm mini PC runs Linux or Android on Rockchip RK3288 or RK3399 SoCJan 09 19:42
techrights-botWHAT stopped in 1996? Software innovation, or priorities? https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/what-stopped-in-1996-software-innovation-or-priorities/ #programmingJan 09 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | WHAT stopped in 1996? Software innovation, or priorities? | Stop at Zona-MJan 09 19:45
techrights-bot#HowTo build a Linux-powered smart home • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146303 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to build a Linux-powered smart home | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:50
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146302 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:51
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techrights-botWine 6.0 Release Candidate 6 looks like the last before a final release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146280#comment-27735 #gnu #linuxJan 09 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 RC6 and Proton Experimental Update | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:53
schestowitzvZS1: another one today: https://cryptopotato.com/a-new-malware-working-on-windows-linux-and-macos-targets-your-cryptocurrency-report/Jan 09 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cryptopotato.com | A New Malware Working On Windows, Linux, and MacOS Targets Your Cryptocurrency: ReportJan 09 19:53
schestowitzthey can't stop, can they?Jan 09 19:53
schestowitzalternative headline:Jan 09 19:53
schestowitzgolang is cross platformJan 09 19:54
schestowitzand you can develop programs with it... to accomplish malicious thingsJan 09 19:54
ccadyJust a quick suggestion: I love the content at TechRights.  I would like to suggest two things: 1) that the site itself be formatted in a much simpler format -- it is difficult to understand and navigate. 2) That the Links articles be an outline, so that sections can be opened and closed.  Just my 2¢.Jan 09 19:55
schestowitzhiJan 09 19:56
techrights-bot#eDEXUI – Coolest Linux Terminal • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146304 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | eDEX-UI – Coolest Linux Terminal | Tux MachinesJan 09 19:57
ccadyThose are just my impressions.  I have tried to browse the site using my phone, and have given up.Jan 09 19:57
ccadyBut even if nothing changes, I am thrilled with the site, and wish to thank you for all you do.Jan 09 19:57
schestowitzwhat about rss feeds?Jan 09 19:58
schestowitzif you use a phone, there's an "app"Jan 09 19:58
schestowitzfor Android anywayJan 09 19:58
schestowitzthat strips things down to plain HTMLJan 09 19:58
techrights-bot#gnu #linux distro #Snal has a new release today, 1.2 https://sourceforge.net/projects/snallinux/Jan 09 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Snal Linux download | SourceForge.netJan 09 20:01
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ccadyI will look into it.  Thank you!Jan 09 20:03
techrights-bot#WineStaging 6.0-RC6 Fixes An 11 Year Old Bug http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146280#comment-27736Jan 09 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 RC6 and Proton Experimental Update | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:03
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120574Jan 09 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Testers Wanted: Android App for Tux Machines Site | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:03
schestowitzit's sort of alpha, but I tested and it worksJan 09 20:03
schestowitzit's tuxmachines and techrights in thereJan 09 20:04
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techrights-bot#Security : #Microsoft Cracked Again and More • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146305 •●• #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/09/#latestJan 09 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Microsoft Cracked Again and More | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 09 20:12
techrights-botGNU #Wget 1.21 and GNU Wget 1.21.1 Released • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146306 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #FreeSWJan 09 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Wget 1.21 and GNU Wget 1.21.1 Released | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:16
vZS1@ccady: the bulletins are where you see the structure of TRJan 09 20:19
techrights-botThis week in #KDE : new #KWin compositing, new Kickoff, new recording level visualization! • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146307 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: new KWin compositing, new Kickoff, new recording level visualization! | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:19
schestowitzvZS1: in case you noticed but did not get notifiFIED... :-)Jan 09 20:19
vZS1What's going on?Jan 09 20:20
schestowitzthe bulletins, as soon as they are generated, will be advertised with link in IRCJan 09 20:20
schestowitzwhich was easy to accomplishJan 09 20:20
schestowitzjust echo > fileJan 09 20:20
vZS1OhJan 09 20:20
schestowitzso classyJan 09 20:20
schestowitzecho "*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/$IRCDATEFILE"  > ~/Desktop/Text_Workspace/images/ii-1.8/techrights2/irc.freenode.net/#techrights/inJan 09 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/txt-archives/$IRCDATEFILE )Jan 09 20:20
vZS1NiceJan 09 20:20
schestowitzsame for IRC logs as soon as they are generatedJan 09 20:21
schestowitz2:40Jan 09 20:21
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vZS1TR could use some cleaning upJan 09 20:21
vZS1The original TR material is mixed up with the other links atmJan 09 20:22
techrights-botThose are not events, they're webstreams https://opensource.com/article/21/1/virtual-events-2020Jan 09 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Catch up on these 4 virtual events from 2020 | Opensource.comJan 09 20:22
schestowitzvZS1: you mean, the bot stuff or the site?Jan 09 20:23
schestowitzwe've long had newsbotsJan 09 20:23
schestowitzlike over 10 yearsJan 09 20:23
schestowitzthe order incarnations used identi.ca/statusnetJan 09 20:23
techrights-bot#LiveRaizo 12.21.01.04 is out, coming from #france and based on #debian #gnu #linux https://sourceforge.net/projects/live-raizo/Jan 09 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live Raizo - Linux for Virtual SysAdmin download | SourceForge.netJan 09 20:25
vZS1The siteJan 09 20:28
schestowitzOh, I seeJan 09 20:28
schestowitzwell, that's why links have red backgroundJan 09 20:28
schestowitzsome suggested making that foldableJan 09 20:28
vZS1I mean more for navigationJan 09 20:28
schestowitzbut suggested javascriptJan 09 20:28
schestowitzwhich would be a step backJan 09 20:28
schestowitzlike latest posts listed at the top?Jan 09 20:29
schestowitz(of blog)?Jan 09 20:29
vZS1Im suggesting more a change in the site layout. Split TR posts into a linear history. Relegate the external links to another pageJan 09 20:30
vZS1The main site is still hard to navigateJan 09 20:30
vZS1When you click on a link in the new root page, it still goes back to the old siteJan 09 20:31
vZS1That way people can easily read all the TR stuff because it's all in one place.Jan 09 20:32
techrights-botDevices/Embedded Boards From the #UK • ᵀᵘˣ ᴹᵃᶜʰⁱⁿᵉˢ ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146309 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #RaspiJan 09 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded Boards From the UK | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:32
schestowitzwordpress does not work like this thoyghJan 09 20:33
schestowitz*thoughJan 09 20:33
schestowitzunless we exclude some category from front pageJan 09 20:33
schestowitzthough it can affect RSS feeds as wellJan 09 20:33
schestowitzvZS1: need mockup to better understandJan 09 20:34
vZS1There's no page you can visit to see the TR storiesJan 09 20:34
vZS1And only the TR storiesJan 09 20:35
schestowitzthere are 30,000 blog postsJan 09 20:35
schestowitzthe wiki can be better for some stuffJan 09 20:35
schestowitzThat's how EPO workers read the siteJan 09 20:35
schestowitzand their wiki landing page is listed in the front (root) pageJan 09 20:35
vZS1Yes but the TR posts aren'tJan 09 20:36
vZS1Wiki has a dedicated pageJan 09 20:36
vZS1TR articles don'tJan 09 20:36
vZS1It would be worth making a dedicated page which lists TR articles.Jan 09 20:36
schestowitzso you want a listing that excludes a particular category Jan 09 20:37
schestowitzas if it's a bad oneJan 09 20:37
schestowitzand I don't think it isJan 09 20:37
schestowitzsome use the site for nothing BUT those linkJan 09 20:37
schestowitz*linksJan 09 20:37
schestowitzbecause no other site collates and curates them like thisJan 09 20:37
schestowitzwith hierarchy and speedJan 09 20:37
vZS1Yes so it can have its own pageJan 09 20:37
vZS1People find the site hard to navigateJan 09 20:37
vZS1Streamlining would help readers quickly find what they wantJan 09 20:39
techrights-bot#KDE #Plasma 5.21 Brings Low-latency Compositing, New Kickoff Menu, and Wallpaper | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146308 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21 Brings Low-latency Compositing, New Kickoff Menu, and Wallpaper | Tux MachinesJan 09 20:39
vZS1TR articles| wiki| external linksJan 09 20:39
schestowitzWe used to have thatJan 09 20:40
schestowitzbut magpieRSS brokeJan 09 20:40
schestowitzthere was a listing of articles and links apartJan 09 20:40
schestowitzit's still doableJan 09 20:40
schestowitzand... if you want.Jan 09 20:40
schestowitzthe current front page can split the twoJan 09 20:40
schestowitzthen show one timeline or list for eachJan 09 20:40
schestowitzthough it would just add more items to that page and clutter is further, I thinkJan 09 20:41
vZS1It's not the front page that needs changingJan 09 20:41
vZS1That's just a summaryJan 09 20:41
vZS1It's the layout of the rest of the siteJan 09 20:41
schestowitzthe bulletins already splits the twoJan 09 20:41
schestowitzand links are always at the bottomJan 09 20:41
vZS1It would be good to mention that in the root page. I forgot about thatJan 09 20:43
techrights-botWhy is #Alibaba outsourcing to #proprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft ? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Alibaba-MNN-1.1.1-Performance #deletegithubJan 09 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alibaba's MNN Deep Learning Framework Continues Squeezing More Performance - PhoronixJan 09 20:43
vZS1The WordPress site is hard to navigate. To much clutterJan 09 20:44
schestowitz[20:42] <href> tomorrow i'm bringing it backJan 09 20:44
schestowitz[20:43] <href> and i'm gonna make it more clear, and use a lesser infrastructure, so i'm not the only one in chargeJan 09 20:44
schestowitz[20:44] <schestowitz> thanks!Jan 09 20:44
vZS1Too*Jan 09 20:44
schestowitzargh, I heard it before...Jan 09 20:44
schestowitzabout pleroma.siteJan 09 20:44
schestowitz[20:44] <href> .site is gonna be separate from anything elseJan 09 20:44
schestowitz[20:44] <href> (else = else I own). Same for the other fedis siteJan 09 20:44
schestowitz[20:44] <schestowitz> thank youJan 09 20:44
schestowitzanyway, in the meantime we have a contingency for  itJan 09 20:45
schestowitz[20:45] <href> If I can't get invidual sites to get fund at half as what it costs, I'll shut them down. Each "group" will get "owners" and backupers.Jan 09 20:45
schestowitz[20:45] <schestowitz> sounds fairJan 09 20:45
schestowitzsee?Jan 09 20:45
schestowitzsocial control media has no sustainable modelJan 09 20:45
schestowitz[20:45] <href> p.site, p.fr, mastodon.host and related was costing me 600e/mJan 09 20:46
schestowitz[20:46] <schestowitz> wow, that is a lot indeedJan 09 20:46
schestowitz[20:46] <href> big and shared doesn't work, so i'm gonna try open and smallJan 09 20:46
schestowitzjoindiapora sort of shared the load across several people and raises moneyJan 09 20:46
vZS1Will always crashJan 09 20:48
schestowitz[20:47] <href> this means i'm gonna call for help. Could you either participate in sysadm, participate in finances, participate on backups ? Jan 09 20:48
schestowitz[20:47] <href> pick one or more.Jan 09 20:48
schestowitz[20:48] <schestowitz> I am willing to pay a bit, I recently paid joindiasporaJan 09 20:48
vZS1P2P is the only reliable way to keep data onlineJan 09 20:48
schestowitzseems like the same day I work on a contingency he says all of the sudden the site is coming backJan 09 20:49
schestowitzvZS1: in the long run, yeah...Jan 09 20:49
schestowitz[20:49] <href> Cool. I hope to find backuping people and a sort of "council" who owns the domain and backup encryption key.Jan 09 20:50
schestowitz[20:50] <schestowitz> :-)Jan 09 20:50
vZS1It's also convenient for us. Because sharing the load is built into P2P networksJan 09 20:50
vZS1We just write simple scripts to automate thingsJan 09 20:50
schestowitz20:50] <href> I really feel a lot bad for this extended downtimeJan 09 20:51
schestowitz[20:51] <schestowitz> "Shit happens" :-)Jan 09 20:51
schestowitzvZS1: well, we'll see how it goesJan 09 20:51
schestowitztbh, I suffered a lot from this downtime... this past monthJan 09 20:51
schestowitzwe really depended a lot on ActivityPubJan 09 20:51
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schestowitzmaybe we can mix and match botsJan 09 20:55
schestowitzexampleJan 09 20:55
schestowitzthe existing one does bulletins and IRCJan 09 20:55
schestowitzamong moreJan 09 20:55
schestowitzthe one Ariadne wrote, viera, can do the restJan 09 20:55
schestowitzAriadne: href says now he's bringing back the site (some details above)Jan 09 20:55
schestowitzI will need to chip in and help to keep it going, which I'm willing to doJan 09 20:56
schestowitzif something is free, they say, you're the productJan 09 20:57
schestowitzor... someone else pays for itJan 09 20:57
schestowitzhref in this caseJan 09 20:57
techrights-bot#OpenSUSE #Tumbleweed Updates | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146310 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Updates | Tux MachinesJan 09 21:17
techrights-bot#FreeSoftware Leftovers | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146311 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeswJan 09 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 09 21:19
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techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146312Jan 09 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 09 22:13
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146313 •●• #GNU #LinuxJan 09 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 09 22:20
techrights-botLinks 9/1/2021: KDE Frameworks 5.78.0, GNU Wget 1.21.1, Red Hat Buying StackRox • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/09/gnu-wget-1-21-1/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 09 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/1/2021: KDE Frameworks 5.78.0, GNU Wget 1.21.1, Red Hat Buying StackRox | TechrightsJan 09 22:25
DaemonFC[m]https://www.windowscentral.com/how-reset-icon-cache-database-windows-10Jan 09 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | How to reset the icon cache database on Windows 10 | Windows CentralJan 09 22:27
DaemonFC[m]This issue is STILL affecting Windows 10.Jan 09 22:27
DaemonFC[m]Makes it impossible to start Firefox from the Start Menu.Jan 09 22:27
techrights-bot#GNU #findutils 4.8.0 released | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146315 •●• #freesw #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU findutils 4.8.0 released | Tux MachinesJan 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Okay, so for some reason, it was linking to a broken icon.Jan 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]We're finally back to the bad old days.Jan 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Where Firefox has severe rendering problems with sites meant for another browser.Jan 09 22:29
techrights-bot"I recently bought a Raspberry Pi 400 which also sits on my desk for quick-release arm64-action! The problem I have had with other Pi’s is the spiders web of cables needed, and additional keyboard." https://popey.com/blog/2021/01/two-displays-and-two-computers/Jan 09 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Two Displays & Two Computers ·Jan 09 22:30
DaemonFC[m]Nobody is even testing to see if Firefox works. The sites are saying get Chrome.Jan 09 22:30
techrights-bot"The Community Council has concluded that we need a new evaluation of the #Ubuntu Local Communities project itself and this should be done by a Local Communities Research Committee." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/01/09/call-for-nomination-local-communities-research-committee/Jan 09 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Call for Nomination: Local Communities Research CommitteeJan 09 22:30
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: maybe Mozilla needs to send the cake backJan 09 22:31
schestowitzto MicrocraplotJan 09 22:31
DaemonFC[m]There were jokes like "Was the cake ticking?".Jan 09 22:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/Jan 09 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozilla’s Board | TechrightsJan 09 22:32
DaemonFC[m]Well, after laying off productive people and going through another useless plan to reorg the Firefox user interface, what the hell?Jan 09 22:32
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Nathan Lineback has more or less given up on Firefox too, after years of maintaining a site about how much he hated Microsoft and, IE in particular.Jan 09 22:34
DaemonFC[m]He said he heard about the mass layoffs, and if it was the people who redesigned the GUI he'd be supportive, but it wasn't. It was the people in charge of writing the browser engine.Jan 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]And I agree, something bigger is coming.Jan 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]Without developers, Gecko will fall further behind than it already is in addressing web compatibility problems.Jan 09 22:35
techrights-bot#nvidia is still a wild affair. One wonder what will happen to ARM if/when the US takes over http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146234#comment-27737Jan 09 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia 460.32.03 Display Driver Adds Support for RTX A6000 GPUs, Vulkan Improvements | Tux MachinesJan 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]And eventually they'll say they're switching to Chromium and trying to make the best out of a bad situation.Jan 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]Really, if you think about it, claiming that they're trying to differentiate themselves at the user experience level is where everyone else went, because it's expensive and difficult to actually build a browser.Jan 09 22:37
DaemonFC[m]Much less so to throw a coat of paint on Chrome and call the program something else.Jan 09 22:37
techrights-botComparing food to #freesw and standards https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/what-fonio-or-any-other-food-should-share-with-serious-digital-standards/Jan 09 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | What Fonio, or any other food, should share with serious digital standards | Stop at Zona-MJan 09 22:39
MinceRunfortunately, mozilla is differentiating itself by being worseJan 09 22:39
MinceRstupid shit like throwing ALSA support outJan 09 22:39
techrights-botElement: The Greatest Way To Access Matrix - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDD49zEp3Uk •●• #Video #FreeswJan 09 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Element: The Greatest Way To Access Matrix - YouTubeJan 09 22:39
MinceRi prefer using IRC to access matrix :>Jan 09 22:46
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX | Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146316 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 09 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 09 22:47
schestowitzMinceR: is matrix worth it at all?Jan 09 22:50
schestowitzseems like more entities move to itJan 09 22:50
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Jan 09 22:50
schestowitzprivate and publicJan 09 22:50
schestowitzno, seriosulyJan 09 22:50
MinceRi'm not too impressed with itJan 09 22:50
schestowitzmaybe even the cheeto nazi will move to itJan 09 22:50
schestowitzor cheeto hitlerJan 09 22:50
schestowitzsome copied it in the former formJan 09 22:50
MinceRlike with XMPP, if the server i used went down, i could start over with setting up everything from scratchJan 09 22:51
schestowitzMinceR: why matrix and now irc?Jan 09 22:51
schestowitzattaching images?Jan 09 22:51
schestowitzseems like recipe for bloatJan 09 22:51
schestowitzesp. when linking is possibleJan 09 22:51
schestowitzleave text to textJan 09 22:51
MinceRIRC is too old, too good and too free for hipstersJan 09 22:51
schestowitzand image hosting to that aloneJan 09 22:51
MinceRthey've got to have something bloated, heavy, preferably based on the "modern" webJan 09 22:51
schestowitzMinceR: yeahJan 09 22:51
schestowitzand many tools for itJan 09 22:51
MinceRmatrix is still not ideal for themJan 09 22:51
schestowitznow I just write to a fileJan 09 22:51
MinceRfaecesbook and dicksword are better for themJan 09 22:52
schestowitzand it echos in ircJan 09 22:52
MinceRthat way, they can be beholden to a corporationJan 09 22:52
schestowitzvery nice suckless program called iiJan 09 22:52
MinceRas for Bunker Bitch's fan club, they're shit out of luckJan 09 22:53
MinceRmaybe their beloved russian empire will run something for themJan 09 22:54
MinceRsomething nonfree and bloated, with only 1 client they're allowed to useJan 09 22:54
MinceRor only a web interfaceJan 09 22:54
schestowitzBunker Bitch?Jan 09 22:55
schestowitzTrump?Jan 09 22:56
schestowitzHis wife/daughter?Jan 09 22:56
schestowitzIs that another term like cheeto hitler?Jan 09 22:56
techrights-botMy ARM laptop http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Techrights-Birthday-14-Years/20200915_070340Jan 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20200915 070340Jan 09 22:59
MinceRtrumpJan 09 23:00
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schestowitzBBJan 09 23:09
schestowitzBJan 09 23:09
schestowitzBenjamin Trump Neyanyahu, BiBi, |Bunker Bitch|Jan 09 23:09
techrights-botIntel Preparing New Driver Option To Disable GPU Security Mitigations - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-i915-mitigations-off-Opt •●• #Intel offers no real #security and works for the #trump regime with back doorsJan 09 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Preparing New Driver Option To Disable GPU Security Mitigations - PhoronixJan 09 23:11
techrights-bot"Linux's #HMM implementation came together over the years and of the interest to many vendors." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-ROCm-HMM-SVM-Memory #Radeon #Linux #KernelJan 09 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Making Progress On HMM-Based SVM Memory Manager For Open-Source Compute - PhoronixJan 09 23:13
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techrights-bot"This opt-in #L1d flushing on context switching tried for the #Linux 5.8 #kernel but at the time was rejected by Linus #Torvalds as "beyond stupid", big performance implications, and not necessarily working out as desire" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=L1d-Flush-2021-PatchesJan 09 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-L1d Cache Flushing On Context Switch Trying Again But More Conservative In 2021 - PhoronixJan 09 23:15
techrights-bot#Bootlin : "We recently contributed an improvement to Buildroot that allows those toolchains to very easily be used in #Buildroot configurations" https://bootlin.com/blog/bootlin-toolchains-integration-in-buildroot/Jan 09 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bootlin toolchains integration in Buildroot - Bootlin's blogJan 09 23:17
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://mastransky.wordpress.com/2021/01/08/the-first-fully-tested-fedora-firefox-package/Jan 09 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastransky.wordpress.com | The first fully tested Fedora Firefox package – Martin Stransky's BlogJan 09 23:18
techrights-botFedora program update: 2021-01 -> #Fedora Community Blog ⇨ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-program-update-2021-01/ •●• #communityfedoraprojectJan 09 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora program update: 2021-01 – Fedora Community BlogJan 09 23:19
techrights-bot#linuxfoundaion is defunct. #CNCF and #Zoom instead of #freesw and all projects outsourced to #microsoft proprietary GitHub https://enotty.pipebreaker.pl/posts/2021/01/kubecon-na-2020-talks-to-watch-part-1/Jan 09 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enotty.pipebreaker.pl | KubeCon NA 2020 talks to watch, part 1 | -ENOTTYJan 09 23:22
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techrights-bot#LinuxFoundation is NOT about #linux http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_FoundationJan 09 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsJan 09 23:25
techrights-bot#Vkrunner RPM packages available - Samuel Iglesias Gonsálvez's blog ⇨ https://blogs.igalia.com/siglesias/2021/01/08/vkrunner-rpm-packages-available/ •●• #igaliaJan 09 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Vkrunner RPM packages available - Samuel Iglesias Gonsálvez's blogJan 09 23:26
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat propping up misleading, deliberately bad misnomers like "serverless" https://jaxenter.com/quarkus-serverless-173345.html see http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted/Jan 09 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modernizing application development with serverless and Quarkus - JAXenterJan 09 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | There’s No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | TechrightsJan 09 23:29
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techrights-botCount the buzzwords in this headline of an #ibm #redhat puff piece (advertising disguised as "news") https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/devops-hybrid-cloud-red-hatJan 09 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.siliconrepublic.com | How a DevOps culture can make the hybrid cloud workJan 09 23:30
MinceRlolJan 09 23:30
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat marketing-heads are leveraging a pandemic that kills millions of people to sell their crap products (many proprietary) https://thriveglobal.com/stories/reinventing-11s-in-a-time-of-disruption/ no sense of shame to these people...Jan 09 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thriveglobal.com | Reinventing 1:1s in a time of disruptionJan 09 23:31
techrights-bothttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_GroupJan 09 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - TechrightsJan 09 23:34
techrights-botDevelopment Release: #AntiX ’Bullseye’ Alpha 1 - Noice • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146317 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #DebianJan 09 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development Release: AntiX 'Bullseye' Alpha 1 - Noice | Tux MachinesJan 09 23:38
techrights-bot#chromeOS is a ToyOS. Need you install any more toys on it? Wipe clean the #chromebook (if that is still feasible, #google tries to obstruct that), install "proper" #gnu #linux on it. https://www.maketecheasier.com/awesome-games-chromebook/Jan 09 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | The 14 Best Games to Play on Your Chromebook in 2021 - Make Tech EasierJan 09 23:39
schestowitzSigh. https://cryptopotato.com/a-new-malware-working-on-windows-linux-and-macos-targets-your-cryptocurrency-report/Jan 09 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cryptopotato.com | A New Malware Working On Windows, Linux, and MacOS Targets Your Cryptocurrency: ReportJan 09 23:40
schestowitzmore FUDJan 09 23:40
schestowitz"new malwarE"Jan 09 23:40
schestowitzhow does that GET to a server/personal machine?Jan 09 23:40
schestowitzyou need to actually install the darn thingJan 09 23:40
schestowitzwhile IRC logs make that apparent already, today's tl;dr is that pleroma.site will likely come back if the users support it technically and financially. We've meanwhile set up alternatives to viera. I think viera will run in tandem (depending on channel) because ii does some things better than viera can. So a mix of both would be beneficial.Jan 09 23:42
schestowitzvZS1: do you want me to do some work on IPFS to the effect noted?Jan 09 23:43
schestowitzor is that, being unstable (still) as mentioned, to be a side project for now? I have lots of spare time tonight/tomorrow.Jan 09 23:43
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat employee running servers at home http://adam.younglogic.com/2021/01/homelab-openshift-4-on-baremetal-part-1/Jan 09 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | Homelab OpenShift 4 on Baremetal: Part 1 | Adam Young’s Web LogJan 09 23:46
techrights-bot#Graphics : #Vkrunner , #Intel and #AMD • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146318Jan 09 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Vkrunner, Intel and AMD | Tux MachinesJan 09 23:49
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: According to Lake County, they're not even a third of the way through vaccine phase 1a.Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Which is healthcare workers and people in nursing homes.Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Phase 1b will be people over 65 in general.Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's up to the states, so it's a clusterfuck.Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC[m]In Florida, some counties are using Surveymonkey to set up vaccination appointments.Jan 09 23:53
DaemonFC[m]Some are doing first come first serve, so a bunch of elderly people sit waiting on lawn chairs.Jan 09 23:53
DaemonFC[m]In one case, the people at the clinic told a bunch waiting to go home and then used the remaining doses on friends and family members they called.Jan 09 23:53
schestowitzI'm putting ii on our ipfs node Jan 09 23:54
schestowitz$ makeJan 09 23:54
schestowitzcc -c -o ii.o ii.c -Os -I. -I/usr/include -DVERSION=\"1.8\" -std=c99 -D_DEFAULT_SOURCEJan 09 23:54
schestowitzcc -c -o strlcpy.o strlcpy.c -Os -I. -I/usr/include -DVERSION=\"1.8\" -std=c99 -D_DEFAULT_SOURCEJan 09 23:54
schestowitzcc -o ii ii.o strlcpy.o -s Jan 09 23:54
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: but does that vaccine work?Jan 09 23:54
schestowitzI am looking for statistical dataJan 09 23:54
schestowitzevidence that it reduces mortalityJan 09 23:54
schestowitzeven after 1st/2nd dosage Jan 09 23:55
schestowitzI see many salesJan 09 23:55
schestowitzI see "happy stories"Jan 09 23:55
schestowitzbut I see no independent data on thisJan 09 23:55
schestowitzat allJan 09 23:55
DaemonFC[m]If there's any data, I'm not seeing it.Jan 09 23:57
DaemonFC[m]You'd think there'd be plenty now like "No new cases in the nursing homes where we've vaccinated so far.".Jan 09 23:57
DaemonFC[m]Or "A 90% reduction.".Jan 09 23:58
DaemonFC[m]Something.Jan 09 23:58
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-lawyers-dershowitz-giuliani/index.htmlJan 09 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump considering Giuliani and Dershowitz for impeachment defense team - CNNPoliticsJan 09 23:58
schestowitztwo a-holesJan 09 23:58
schestowitzwe need rudyleaksJan 09 23:59

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