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| HMS | SMART CURTAINS use BSB? | Apr 09 00:00 |
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| bnchs | HMS: yes and is there an ISO without nvidia drivers | Apr 09 00:00 |
| bnchs | in case you don't agree with their EULA | Apr 09 00:00 |
| kingoffrance | MinceR, whats the difference between a "state" and "nation" and "people" ? it just reads "abolish all people" | Apr 09 00:00 |
| techrights-news | Go further. Delete WINDOWS, too. Neither ever defended anything except Microsoft and the NSA. https://www.maketecheasier.com/permanently-disable-windows-defender-windows-10/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/microsoft-defender/ | Apr 09 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Permanently Disable Windows Defender in Windows - Make Tech Easier | Apr 09 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft “Defender” Pretender Attacks Random Software That Uses NSIS for installation; “Super Duper Secure Mode” for Edge is a Laugh | Techrights | Apr 09 00:00 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Biely-Siniy-Biely and Biely-Chervony-Biely | Apr 09 00:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 09 00:01 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: state is an organization for the oppression of people; nation is an excuse to unite a bunch of people to make them gang up on another bunch of people for the benefit of the former group's oppressors | Apr 09 00:01 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: people is the plural of person | Apr 09 00:01 |
| HMS | don't agree with any their EULA i just press next | Apr 09 00:01 |
| kingoffrance | sure, so how does abolish "states" or "nations" get rid of that? people will just do that again | Apr 09 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | as they did the first time | Apr 09 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | it is just a change of people, nothing more | Apr 09 00:02 |
| kingoffrance | *change of oppressors | Apr 09 00:02 |
| MinceR | people will need to stop believing that it is right for some people to own/rule other people | Apr 09 00:03 |
| MinceR | that notion has to go | Apr 09 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | there goes parenthood | Apr 09 00:03 |
| MinceR | do parents own someone? | Apr 09 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | who is responsible for children? | Apr 09 00:03 |
| MinceR | if that is what parenthood means, then yes, parenthood needs to go too | Apr 09 00:03 |
| MinceR | it's shared responsibility | Apr 09 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's a bit of an overkill. | Apr 09 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | oh, so shared ownership | Apr 09 00:03 |
| MinceR | no, that's not ownership | Apr 09 00:03 |
| kingoffrance | because its shared? | Apr 09 00:04 |
| MinceR | the only one who should own a particular person is that person | Apr 09 00:04 |
| HMS | shared responsibility | Apr 09 00:04 |
| kingoffrance | so where is the line between own and responsibility? | Apr 09 00:04 |
| HMS | that what MinceR typed | Apr 09 00:04 |
| kingoffrance | yes, and its nonsense | Apr 09 00:04 |
| kingoffrance | responsibility is based on ownership | Apr 09 00:04 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty thick line | Apr 09 00:05 |
| MinceR | no, it is not | Apr 09 00:05 |
| kingoffrance | oh really? | Apr 09 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | I for one would rather focus on dictators than on parenthood. | Apr 09 00:05 |
| MinceR | so would i | Apr 09 00:06 |
| MinceR | but kingoffrance wants to sire children and own them | Apr 09 00:06 |
| kingoffrance | "the only one who should own a particular person is that person" so i pop out 20 kids and they all grow up murderers. where is the responsiblity here? who is resposnible? | Apr 09 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | One way to play through Fallout games is by making your character really stupid. It frees up points to use on other attributes and leads to funny dialog. | Apr 09 00:06 |
| MinceR | being responsible for the wellbeing of your kids is not the same as being entitled to tell your kids what to do 24/7, until they die | Apr 09 00:06 |
| kingoffrance | noone claimed that | Apr 09 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | Dictators. Parents. Fallout. | Apr 09 00:07 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Apr 09 00:07 |
| MinceR | that's what owning people means | Apr 09 00:07 |
| kingoffrance | thats what you caricature means | Apr 09 00:07 |
| MinceR | it's slavery | Apr 09 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I see Orban's party got two-thirds of the seats with about half the vote. | Apr 09 00:07 |
| HMS | better lucky then smart | Apr 09 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | Democracy! | Apr 09 00:07 |
| MinceR | but yeah, i know that slavery is "hip" and "cool" and "modern" and "edgy" and "based" now | Apr 09 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | I'd recognize it anywhere! | Apr 09 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Oh, did they learn from Russia? | Apr 09 00:07 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yeah, they wrote the rules so it does that | Apr 09 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Or Indiana. | Apr 09 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | if responsibility is not based on ownership, then how is responsibility distributed? | Apr 09 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, I have a question :) | Apr 09 00:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: last time they got 2/3 of the seats with something like 48.5% of the votes | Apr 09 00:08 |
| MinceR | so they didn't even have a majority and their rules turned it into a supermajority | Apr 09 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they set a 5% threshold to get any seats at all. | Apr 09 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | your scheme has implicit "someone owns everything and allocates responsibility" | Apr 09 00:08 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: typically both parents and the child itself would be responsible for the child | Apr 09 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | but thats not ownership? | Apr 09 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | So a bunch of minor parties can come along ang get tens of thousands of votes and no seats. | Apr 09 00:09 |
| MinceR | no, my scheme has implicit "everyone owns themselves" | Apr 09 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | That helps a bit. | Apr 09 00:09 |
| MinceR | s/im/ex/ | Apr 09 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Does Hungary have a system where when a small party doesn't have enough of a percentage their percentage will be shared between the passing parties relative to their percentages? | Apr 09 00:09 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: something like that | Apr 09 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Learnt from the best. | Apr 09 00:09 |
| MinceR | this percentage threshold bullshit seems to be popular | Apr 09 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | lets ask this then: do people own what they create? | Apr 09 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Oh it's even better in some US states. | Apr 09 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | That's one of the mechanisms that United Russia used to dominate. | Apr 09 00:10 |
| kingoffrance | because its either parents made a child or "god" did | Apr 09 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | To maintain ballot access, you have to get enough votes in the previous election. | Apr 09 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Or your party reverts to "write in" candidates. | Apr 09 00:10 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: reproduction is not creation | Apr 09 00:10 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: seriously, it's not a challenging thing to do | Apr 09 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I predict Hungary a great future if it ever decides to secede. | Apr 09 00:10 |
| MinceR | even bacteria can do it | Apr 09 00:10 |
| MinceR | hell, even fideath voters can do it | Apr 09 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | The illusion that someone who isn't a Democrat or Republican could win is important. | Apr 09 00:11 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i don't see much of a future for hungary | Apr 09 00:11 |
| kingoffrance | sure, we are estabilish title/ownership -- so "God" owns everything in your system, only they can "create" anything | Apr 09 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A special military operation to de-Nazi-fy Finland maybe. | Apr 09 00:11 |
| MinceR | especially if orban keeps supporting putler | Apr 09 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | It lets them say you have options and third party candidates just lose because nobody likes them. | Apr 09 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ye misunderstood. | Apr 09 00:11 |
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| MinceR | kingoffrance: there is no "God" in my system | Apr 09 00:11 |
| MinceR | actual property can be owned by whoever | Apr 09 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Lisa Murkowski was the first Senator to win a seat in a write in campaign in almost a century after the Republicans rigged the system to primary her. | Apr 09 00:12 |
| MinceR | people can be owned by themselves and nobody else | Apr 09 00:12 |
| MinceR | PII can be owned the people it's about | Apr 09 00:12 |
| kingoffrance | ok, what rights do people have? and are those property they own or not? | Apr 09 00:12 |
| MinceR | other information can't be owned | Apr 09 00:12 |
| kingoffrance | since there is no state, who allocates "rights" | Apr 09 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Then instead of taking revenge by just declaring she was an Independent Senator and refusing to vote them into the majority, she acted like nothing had happened and rejoined them. | Apr 09 00:12 |
| MinceR | you don't need a state to have rights | Apr 09 00:12 |
| kingoffrance | sure, but didnt answer my question | Apr 09 00:13 |
| MinceR | this has been discussed to great depth already | Apr 09 00:13 |
| MinceR | i can't give you an exhaustive list of human rights | Apr 09 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | ok, so a gang of oppressors decided what "rights" people have, same as prior system, but this one is not a "state" | Apr 09 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'd just become an Independent Senator and refuse to vote for Leadership for the rest of the time I was in there. | Apr 09 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | its just bait and switch word games | Apr 09 00:13 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: pretty sure it was not a gang of oppressors | Apr 09 00:14 |
| kingoffrance | theres no state, so who decides who is an "oppressor" or not? | Apr 09 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | They don't want her there because she votes for the Democrat bills about 40% of the time. | Apr 09 00:14 |
| MinceR | how would having a state help decide that anyway? | Apr 09 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | The state has to pass laws saying what you can do. | Apr 09 00:15 |
| kingoffrance | it just sounds like a theocracy. only "god" can create things (but we wont call it "god"). some random group of random people decide what rights you have, but you cant see them | Apr 09 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | That way you have rights. | Apr 09 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | How would you have those rights if there wasn't anything stopping you in the first place? | Apr 09 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | For God's sake, get some perspective, man. | Apr 09 00:15 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: you're the one going on about "god" | Apr 09 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | We need the state to give us rights it took away to begin with. | Apr 09 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | MinceR, youre the one who said people cannot create anything | Apr 09 00:16 |
| MinceR | and how would you even see rights? | Apr 09 00:16 |
| MinceR | no, i didn't say that | Apr 09 00:16 |
| MinceR | i said that reproduction isn't creation | Apr 09 00:16 |
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| kingoffrance | ok, so what is and isnt creation? | Apr 09 00:16 |
| MinceR | go read a dictionary | Apr 09 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | i build a house -- reproductino or creation? | Apr 09 00:16 |
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| kingoffrance | your system is like rust -- unspecified moving target | Apr 09 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | the only standard is in your head | Apr 09 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | "god" lol | Apr 09 00:17 |
| MinceR | sorry, if you don't even know what reproduction is, i don't think we can have a real debate about the state | Apr 09 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | if you dont know what "state" means likewise | Apr 09 00:18 |
| techrights-news | Linux on Mobile - Weekly Update (14/2022): Maui Shell Alpha, Mobian goes Tow-Boot, Suspend on the Librem 5 and AVMultiPhone is back! • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163523 | Apr 09 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on Mobile - Weekly Update (14/2022): Maui Shell Alpha, Mobian goes Tow-Boot, Suspend on the Librem 5 and AVMultiPhone is back! | Tux Machines | Apr 09 00:18 | |
| kingoffrance | or "nation" | Apr 09 00:18 |
| kingoffrance | or "person" for that matter | Apr 09 00:18 |
| kingoffrance | a person is a persona. you implicitly already went "religious" by claiming people have souls and are just personas | Apr 09 00:27 |
| bnchs | uhhh what ahppened | Apr 09 00:28 |
| kingoffrance | confusion of tongues, same as always | Apr 09 00:29 |
| kingoffrance | why there will never be any "law" | Apr 09 00:29 |
| kingoffrance | the other question this doesnt deal with: which personas are allowed? this determines who has what rights | Apr 09 00:32 |
| kingoffrance | we already went beyond 'human rights" because you were discussing "parents" and "children" | Apr 09 00:32 |
| kingoffrance | so "human rights" does not cover everything, there are other "personas" besides "human" | Apr 09 00:33 |
| techrights-news | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163524 | Apr 09 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 09 00:36 | |
| kingoffrance | so, the only remaining thing to do is enumerate all the types of "persons" and "titles" for this feudalistic system | Apr 09 00:37 |
| techrights-news | "EVGA said it only received about two dozen dead RTX 3090s that has failed from playing the New World beta. EVGA sent replacement RTX 3090s to affected gamers after the story broke, and didn't wait for the failed cards to be returned first," gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/evga-3090s.gmi | Apr 09 00:37 |
| bnchs | lol | Apr 09 00:38 |
| bnchs | imagine having a game so unoptimized | Apr 09 00:38 |
| bnchs | that it straight out fries GPUs | Apr 09 00:38 |
| techrights-news | PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163525 | Apr 09 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released | Tux Machines | Apr 09 00:38 | |
| HMS | GPUs without good cooling | Apr 09 00:39 |
| HMS | they are supposed to last 1 years | Apr 09 00:39 |
| bnchs | oh your GPU got fried because of my game | Apr 09 00:40 |
| bnchs | just buy a new GPU dumbass | Apr 09 00:40 |
| HMS | https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/rtby98/rtx_3080ti_copper_mod_temps_dropped_from_88c_to/ | Apr 09 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | RTX 3080Ti copper mod temps dropped from 88C to 70C : nvidia | Apr 09 00:40 | |
| HMS | maybe some copper plates are more expensive that silicon | Apr 09 00:42 |
| techrights-news | EndeavourOS Apollo brings massive improvements to the Calamares installer and introduces a new X11-based window manager. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163515#comment-33310 | Apr 09 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More | Tux Machines | Apr 09 00:43 | |
| HMS | https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/rzfmdk/update_3080ti_copper_mod_ver_20/ | Apr 09 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | [Update] 3080Ti Copper Mod Ver 2.0 : nvidia | Apr 09 00:43 | |
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| MinceR | imagine a gpu so poorly designed that it burns itself | Apr 09 00:45 |
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| bnchs__ | thats nvidia for you | Apr 09 00:46 |
| bnchs__ | gpu poorly designed, they cause housefires | Apr 09 00:46 |
| HMS | https://www.tomshardware.com/news/miniature-windows-on-arm-desktop-launched | Apr 09 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Mini Windows on Arm Desktop PC Launches at $229 | Tom's Hardware | Apr 09 00:49 | |
| HMS | One of the unit's main features is an integrated 4G modem | Apr 09 00:50 |
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| HMS | MS is droping x86 ! | Apr 09 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | I call it x86-32. | Apr 09 00:51 |
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| DaemonFC | Most people call it IA-32 where there's a distinction, but then they call AMD64 "x86-64" or worse, "x64". | Apr 09 00:52 |
| techrights-news | Data Crow and OpenDocMan in Review • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163526 | Apr 09 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Data Crow and OpenDocMan in Review | Tux Machines | Apr 09 00:52 | |
| kingoffrance | https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights the only known "human rights" involve "states" and "nations" | Apr 09 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.un.org | Universal Declaration of Human Rights | United Nations | Apr 09 00:52 | |
| HMS | There is a catch, though, as noted by Liliputing. While the system comes with Windows 11 pre-installed, that version of the OS is not licensed | Apr 09 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | So to avoide awkwardness, I say x86-32 and x86-64. | Apr 09 00:53 |
| kingoffrance | These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. | Apr 09 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | That way we know, it's x86, and 32-bit or 64-bit x86. | Apr 09 00:53 |
| kingoffrance | so yet to see any "stateless" "nationless" "consent of the governed" version of "human rights" | Apr 09 00:53 |
| HMS | but can it run linux? | Apr 09 00:53 |
| kingoffrance | just another "gang of oppressors" | Apr 09 00:53 |
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| kingoffrance | Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs <-- and we see "persons" belong to countries or territories | Apr 09 00:56 |
| kingoffrance | there are no "stateless" persons, does not exist | Apr 09 00:56 |
| kingoffrance | thank you, good night | Apr 09 00:57 |
| kingoffrance | brotherhood of man too, is the state religion for this scheme | Apr 09 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | brotherhood of man? | Apr 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | "kisses for me?" | Apr 09 00:58 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▆█▂▇▆▄▅▃▄▅▇▂▃▅▄▅▆▇▆▆▆▇▂▄▂▄▅▃▅▂▇▄▁ avg(k/sec) 35.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▅▆▂▆█▂▁█▁▄▅▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▂█▁▁▁▁▁█▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 40.53▕ swarm size (avg): 441.18 ⟲ | Apr 09 00:59 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Apr 09 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW1JJwqVRQ | Apr 09 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=6OW1JJwqVRQ | Apr 09 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.namazso.eu | Brotherhood Of Man - Save Your Kisses For Me • TopPop - Invidious | Apr 09 00:59 | |
| MinceR | ah yes, "state religion" is very applicable to something with no state nor religion | Apr 09 01:02 |
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| HMS | NEW KERNAL! | Apr 09 01:04 |
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| MinceR | c64? | Apr 09 01:05 |
| HMS | 5.15.33 | Apr 09 01:05 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163527 | Apr 09 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 09 01:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | KER NAL pointer | Apr 09 01:05 |
| HMS | i hope it fix the reboot instead of shutsown thing | Apr 09 01:06 |
| HMS | i type poweroff and the stupid thing reboots instead | Apr 09 01:07 |
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| techrights-news | Games: War Thunder and HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163528 | Apr 09 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: War Thunder and HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed | Tux Machines | Apr 09 01:09 | |
| kingoffrance | MinceR, so do you have some other "human rights" that has stateless persons, and does not require everyone be of the same "father god" ? | Apr 09 01:10 |
| kingoffrance | you have yet to present any evidence for your scheme | Apr 09 01:10 |
| techrights-news | Links 08/04/2022: EndeavourOS Apollo and Wine 7.6 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/endeavouros-apollo/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/endeavouros-apollo/ | Apr 09 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 08/04/2022: EndeavourOS Apollo and Wine 7.6 | Techrights | Apr 09 01:12 | |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: sorry, i don't have time for your trolling | Apr 09 01:13 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, i'll tell you something | Apr 09 01:15 |
| bnchs__ | did you know that smart TVs are hardcoded to listen on bluetooth | Apr 09 01:15 |
| bnchs__ | and there's no setting to disable it | Apr 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | worse | Apr 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's worse than you know | Apr 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | Vault 7 shows some exploits (not code) for the Samsung ones | Apr 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the basic requirments are not steep | Apr 09 01:16 |
| kingoffrance | MinceR, so your law is a religion in your head, got it | Apr 09 01:16 |
| bnchs__ | i mean it's a security risk | Apr 09 01:17 |
| bnchs__ | the TV is always publicly listening on bluetooth | Apr 09 01:17 |
| bnchs__ | even when it's "off" | Apr 09 01:17 |
| bnchs__ | the only way is to pull the plug | Apr 09 01:17 |
| psydruid | a tablet is a large smartphone and a smart TV is a huge smartphone | Apr 09 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: even them | Apr 09 01:18 |
| psydruid | everything is becoming a smartphone | Apr 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) it can run on capacitor perhaps | Apr 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe future models | Apr 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) it has access to microsoft | Apr 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) it has sorage capacity, so can record while offline, transmit later | Apr 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) the software can be modified remoately just for you | Apr 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case of you being "person of interest"; you would not even know | Apr 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | typo | Apr 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I means microphone, not micosoft | Apr 09 01:19 |
| bnchs__ | my dad buys shit like smart TVs | Apr 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the future we can call the company MicroPhone | Apr 09 01:19 |
| bnchs__ | even after knowing that it's full of buzzwords | Apr 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it phones home | Apr 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, "cortana" is dying | Apr 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they failed against amazon, gulag, and rotten | Apr 09 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so sort of pull the plug | Apr 09 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | [01:18] <psydruid> everything is becoming a smartphone | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | we discussed this hours ago | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's an archetype for them | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "sideloading" | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, on your laptop too | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "sigstore" | Apr 09 01:21 |
| bnchs__ | "sideloading" | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they see how far they can get with bad agenda | Apr 09 01:21 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, did you know | Apr 09 01:21 |
| bnchs__ | LG smart TVs are easily crackable | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we must push back | Apr 09 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | our arguments are vastly better | Apr 09 01:21 |
| bnchs__ | no seriously | Apr 09 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't have marketing budget | Apr 09 01:22 |
| bnchs__ | you can get cracked with just one website | Apr 09 01:22 |
| bnchs__ | a rootkit installed | Apr 09 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but some companies can benefit from being "countercorruent" to that | Apr 09 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a car company which advertises, "we are NOT smart" | Apr 09 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "our car does NOT track you" | Apr 09 01:22 |
| bnchs__ | and the problem is most of the smart TVs are connected to the internet | Apr 09 01:22 |
| bnchs__ | so a smart TV is a black box | Apr 09 01:22 |
| bnchs__ | and a security nightmare | Apr 09 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | those can sell well and they can advertise by cautioning about what OTHER cars do | Apr 09 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | all moden TVs are blackboxes/denyboxes | Apr 09 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | even decades-old TVs | Apr 09 01:23 |
| bnchs__ | yes | Apr 09 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the current ones are worse | Apr 09 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they can remoately modify them | Apr 09 01:23 |
| bnchs__ | decade old TVs didn't connect to the internet | Apr 09 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | even "just for you" | Apr 09 01:23 |
| bnchs__ | and turned off when you turn it off | Apr 09 01:23 |
| bnchs__ | but the current ones are security nightmare | Apr 09 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can barelyt reverse0-engineer them, | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | even self-gratifying tinkerers like mjg59_ | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they're too complex | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | too many moving parts | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you're never too sure what those encrypted packkets the TV sends overnight actually have in them | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | microphone recordings? | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | cam footage? | Apr 09 01:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | God knows! | Apr 09 01:24 |
| bnchs__ | the problem is | Apr 09 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe they ship you an update that does both 24/7 | Apr 09 01:25 |
| bnchs__ | decades old dumb TVs can't do shit | Apr 09 01:25 |
| bnchs__ | other than show something on the screen | Apr 09 01:25 |
| bnchs__ | and thats it | Apr 09 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when you try to prove it the TV suddenly falls back onto older firmware | Apr 09 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | to hide what it did | Apr 09 01:25 |
| bnchs__ | current TVs are security blackholes | Apr 09 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | covering up | Apr 09 01:25 |
| bnchs__ | security blackboxes* | Apr 09 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bitch please!!! DENYboxes" | Apr 09 01:26 |
| bnchs__ | tbh my room has a dumb tv connected to a satellite decoder box | Apr 09 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is NOT a statement against tech BTW | Apr 09 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be a straw man | Apr 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am surreounded by 5 webcams at the moment | Apr 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but all except two are covered in tape | Apr 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ones I do not use | Apr 09 01:27 |
| bnchs__ | i always hated smart TVs from day one | Apr 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | here isa trick question | Apr 09 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | what was the first smart tv? | Apr 09 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or | Apr 09 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | when did it start? | Apr 09 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | (spoiler: it's just a buzzword, same for "phones") | Apr 09 01:28 |
| bnchs__ | samsung? | Apr 09 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown computing also | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are neblous terms | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | like DevOps | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody can even consistently defne them | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was tol | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | hypePhone was first smartphonew | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | why? | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | you could add software to it | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but PalmOS could do this way before 2007 | Apr 09 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we sadly exist in an industry now dominated by bullish, marketing, and revisionism | Apr 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | which are all of the same | Apr 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | my stance | Apr 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | reject the buzzwords | Apr 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | either slant them | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | with humour | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | or bypass them with clearer explanation of what goes on | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR says crApp iirc | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that's grand | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | because a lots of software was a lot better | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | than it turned into crap | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then crApp | Apr 09 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | same but with hardly any options, no keyboard, no mouse, just back button | Apr 09 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they call that progress | Apr 09 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | we did some memes about that | Apr 09 01:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/7-screen-laptop.jpg | Apr 09 01:33 |
| schestowitz | expensive | Apr 09 01:33 |
| schestowitz | phoronix: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/phoronix-setup.jpg | Apr 09 01:33 |
| schestowitz | My older setup http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/techrights-desk.jpg | Apr 09 01:34 |
| schestowitz | you cannot get much done with a "crApp" | Apr 09 01:35 |
| techrights-news | Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppEigen 0.3.3.9.2 on CRAN: Maintenance http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/08#rcppeigen_0.3.3.9.2 | Apr 09 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Apr 09 01:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | to figure out what "smart" TVs really do we need eithger | Apr 09 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) whistleblower | Apr 09 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) seecurity breach | Apr 09 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/un-conventions-on-statelessness.html here's a good one. "human rights" include a "right to a nationality" even under un-speak | Apr 09 01:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unhcr.org | UNHCR - UN Conventions on Statelessness | Apr 09 01:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, leaks info on what the TV side and server side are really doing | Apr 09 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | so MinceR does some "human rights" when he feels like it | Apr 09 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | flip a coin to see which ones he honours | Apr 09 01:40 |
| techrights-news | You are Tracked Online -How To Avoid Being Tracked Online - Linux ... ⚓ https://linuxsecurity.com/features/how-to-avoid-being-tracked-online ䷉ Source: linuxsecurity | Apr 09 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | You are Tracked Online - How To Avoid Being Tracked Online - Linux ... | Apr 09 01:40 | |
| techrights-news | Even ICBM Red Hat employees don't use Red Hat OSes! "Our base operating system for this install is Ubuntu 20.04." http://adam.younglogic.com/2022/04/bifrost-spike-on-an-ampere-altramax/ | Apr 09 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | Bifrost Spike on an Ampere AltraMax | Adam Young’s Web Log | Apr 09 01:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | if someone has spare time | Apr 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | issue worth investigating: | Apr 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | what army/gov contracts ICBM (IBM) has: | Apr 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | pertaining to nuclear simulations | Apr 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the HPC stuff | Apr 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to arsenal of nukes | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. inventories and on-missile systems | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | obv. those are not widely advertised | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | quite confidential | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they still used floppy disks 3 years ago | Apr 09 01:43 |
| MinceR | it must suck for kingoffrance to live in an alternative universe where the enlightenment never happened | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the very very large floppies | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you can find info, share here | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | the term "ICBM" goes a long way for IBM... | Apr 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: he and activelow speak a lot of religion | Apr 09 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow tends to make some stuff up | Apr 09 01:44 |
| kingoffrance | i dont deny enlightenment. that is why i dont believe in masonry "brotherhood of man" or UN or trump state religion | Apr 09 01:45 |
| kingoffrance | bait and switch is not enlightenment | Apr 09 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | UN is very inconsistent | Apr 09 01:45 |
| kingoffrance | neither is novus ordo seclorum | Apr 09 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a disabled little brother | Apr 09 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't bash it too much | Apr 09 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you do not take it so seriously either | Apr 09 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | UN gave us WIPO | Apr 09 01:45 |
| kingoffrance | well i see stateless persons have less "human rights" than people with "nationality" | Apr 09 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and WHO controlled by corrupting forces | Apr 09 01:46 |
| kingoffrance | so MinceR is offering you the lessser "human rights" | Apr 09 01:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I see .int domain I go, "OK, what does Saudi Arabia and 'other nation' tell us?" | Apr 09 01:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: it's not a privilege | Apr 09 01:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | being a member of some nations is bad karma | Apr 09 01:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and a stain on one's forehead | Apr 09 01:47 |
| kingoffrance | fair, but he has yet to show any "human rights" definition he goes by | Apr 09 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might be better off stateless | Apr 09 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would also help asylum application | Apr 09 01:47 |
| kingoffrance | if not "universal declaration" then where are those supposed "human rights" ? | Apr 09 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | tbh, MinceR should be somewhere better | Apr 09 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | .hu has been drained out of what was there in the age of the austria-hungary alliance | Apr 09 01:48 |
| MinceR | i haven't written my own formalized declaration of human rights | Apr 09 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it used to be a very powerful nation | Apr 09 01:48 |
| kingoffrance | ok, thank you | Apr 09 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's like a jester to the EU | Apr 09 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to Putin | Apr 09 01:48 |
| MinceR | if i had done that, i'm sure it would miss some important elements | Apr 09 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | nazi germany renderede many people stateless | Apr 09 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | un came after that | Apr 09 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe with insights gathered from 50+ million dead humans | Apr 09 01:49 |
| *schestowitz-TR checks how many hungarians died in the way | Apr 09 01:49 | |
| schestowitz | 200k | Apr 09 01:50 |
| schestowitz | according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties | Apr 09 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | World War II casualties - Wikipedia | Apr 09 01:50 | |
| kingoffrance | funny somewhere still does maxims https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2010/civ/3509-3548.html That which does not appear to exist is to be regarded as if it did not exist well i'm glad we reached an understanding | Apr 09 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-law.justia.com | Part 4. Maxims Of Jurisprudence :: Civil Code :: 2010 California Code :: California Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia | Apr 09 01:50 | |
| schestowitz | that's just military | Apr 09 01:50 |
| schestowitz | about half a million otherwise | Apr 09 01:50 |
| schestowitz | so about 5% of the nation's population | Apr 09 01:51 |
| activelow | nation states with a constitution are a modern advancement; preceeding Nazi germany and the Russian Revolution it was almost always feudalist ruling supported by the church | Apr 09 01:51 |
| activelow | that's why the argument "nazi germany renderede many people stateless" is not plausible | Apr 09 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Támas Stark. Hungary's Human Losses in World War II. Uppsala Univ. 1995 ISBN 91-86624-21-0 p.59 | Apr 09 01:52 |
| kingoffrance | enlightenment is also a major reason i dont trust sov citizens, they want 10 commandments and the trucker rebellion too apparently. bait and switch | Apr 09 01:52 |
| activelow | btw. the concept of "Nation Building" is associated with Carl Schmitt - _the_ leading Nazi lawyer | Apr 09 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | lol interesting | Apr 09 01:55 |
| techrights-news | Fully awful system. Nobody in the world envies the US tax system and health [sic] care [sic] system https://www.marketwatch.com/story/an-estimated-70-of-taxpayers-could-file-their-taxes-for-free-but-far-fewer-do-heres-why-11649198684 | Apr 09 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'I already paid last week': An estimated 70% of taxpayers could get free tax prep, but far fewer do. Here's why. - MarketWatch | Apr 09 01:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: well, they only destroyed nations | Apr 09 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. their own at the end | Apr 09 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | berlin in rubble | Apr 09 01:56 |
| activelow | destroyed when? i consider the final stroke being 1990 and the "re-unification" | Apr 09 01:57 |
| activelow | preceeding this cornerstone of history, germany at least retained it's currency, the Pfennig and the Mark | Apr 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | you oppose that, don't you? | Apr 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | you want east germany back | Apr 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and east berlin | Apr 09 01:57 |
| activelow | no, i say "re-unification" is a misnomer, a propganda lie | Apr 09 01:57 |
| activelow | it never has been a "re-unification" | Apr 09 01:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | korea need to sort something out too | Apr 09 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | their war never officially ended | Apr 09 01:58 |
| activelow | i won't comment on Korea, because i do _not_ know anything about their own _internal_ affairs | Apr 09 01:58 |
| techrights-news | Foxconn https://www.electronicdesign.com/markets/automotive/article/21238570/electronic-design-a-hot-new-challenger-takes-on-ev-makers | Apr 09 01:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | US took one side, along with UN and allies | Apr 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | china and soviets took another | Apr 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | ended up with dmz | Apr 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | after japan fell | Apr 09 01:59 |
| techrights-news | There's hardly such a thing sadly. Pink unicorns. We need to use less energy. There needs to be less of "we". https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-markets/a-deeper-dive-into-24-7-carbon-free-energy | Apr 09 02:00 |
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| kingoffrance | "That which does not appear to exist is to be regarded as if it did not exist " that is one of the greatest maxims, because it rules out "ineffable" "god" and any 2nd coming (hasnt arrived yet) | Apr 09 02:03 |
| matey | "Linux is granted until the boomers die. The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL. I guess this is the biggest problem with GNU/Linux. You can't change it because then you've to ask all developers who introduced changes to the Linux kernel." | Apr 09 02:03 |
| matey | or... | Apr 09 02:03 |
| techrights-news | Serial GPL violator VMware is trying to 'lecture' us on copyleft just months after starting an anti-Linux FUD campaign https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/VMWARE-INC-58476/news/VMware-Open-Source-License-Compliance-and-Why-It-Matters-39983970/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ | Apr 09 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VMware : Open Source License Compliance and Why It Matters | MarketScreener | Apr 09 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Latest Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Patterns Against “Linux” (the Real Issue is Proprietary Software) | Techrights | Apr 09 02:03 | |
| matey | only people who give a shit about you being able to reuse the code can fuck with it (which doesnt eliminate, but it cuts down on the number of people fucking with it) | Apr 09 02:03 |
| matey | of course theres another way to do this too: make the kernel too tight for fuckers to want anything to do with it | Apr 09 02:04 |
| matey | and then dont support whatever shit they want to do with it | Apr 09 02:04 |
| matey | theres no law that says you have to accept kernel patches you dont want | Apr 09 02:04 |
| techrights-news | VMware became so malicious this past year that even Dirk Hondahl, their damage-controlling spinner, resigned http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware | Apr 09 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | VMware - Techrights | Apr 09 02:04 | |
| matey | "The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL" <- that isnt why | Apr 09 02:05 |
| matey | the next generation of programmers wont bother with linux because it will be unusable | Apr 09 02:05 |
| matey | because of fuckery by the same people who said they wouldnt touch it because gpl | Apr 09 02:06 |
| kingoffrance | when ppl start making "generation" based arguments i kind of tune out lol | Apr 09 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: but rust !! | Apr 09 02:06 |
| matey | when ppl start making "generation" based arguments i kind of tune out lol <- every generation makes the same ones | Apr 09 02:06 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Apr 09 02:06 |
| matey | but rust !! <- that why it wont be usable | Apr 09 02:06 |
| kingoffrance | it tells me they probably dont have a good reason | Apr 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | install 400mb of garbage | Apr 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to get started | Apr 09 02:07 |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi OS updated based on Debian Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33311 | Apr 09 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines | Apr 09 02:07 | |
| matey | /me loves the quote from plato where he talks about "the youth of today" and it could have been written in the mid-20th century | Apr 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe soon they'll ask all kernel hackers to create a microsoft account | Apr 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and push "PRs" into MS GitHub | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft tried that years ago | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it didn't go well | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | some hackers sent me emails | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | raising alarm | Apr 09 02:08 |
| matey | i mean its a full paragraph rant, and it wouldnt be out of place more than a thousand years later | Apr 09 02:08 |
| kingoffrance | thats another way enlightnment was stabbed in the back "the new atlantis" | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they did push rust | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's ms github | Apr 09 02:08 |
| matey | /me has only heard of the original atlantis | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they're halfway there | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | kernel.org is still self-hosted | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the dev toolchain is not (fully) | Apr 09 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like putin wantin kiev (Linux) | Apr 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for now he settles for cities and towns around the coveted treasure | Apr 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and linus' head | Apr 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | Zilinsky | Apr 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | (spelling) | Apr 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | github rounding up gnu | Apr 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | next target: kernel.org | Apr 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2015: microsoft loves linux | Apr 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2025: microsoft controls linux | Apr 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | IF they succeed | Apr 09 02:10 |
| MinceR | 2035: there is no linux | Apr 09 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably | Apr 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | just in time for 2038 | Apr 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | problem solved | Apr 09 02:12 |
| matey | /me thought they already solved 2038 | Apr 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: there's also no putin | Apr 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless he turns 82/83 | Apr 09 02:12 |
| MinceR | he'll have a successor, probably | Apr 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | bunker bitch trump would be almost 90 | Apr 09 02:12 |
| matey | /me can see putin lasting as long as cheney unless you know... | Apr 09 02:12 |
| MinceR | unless we all die in a nuclear apocalypse | Apr 09 02:12 |
| MinceR | which is still better than living in russia | Apr 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: orban's naturalisatioin application is processed | Apr 09 02:13 |
| bnchs__ | can't wait for rust to be a failure | Apr 09 02:13 |
| MinceR | orban might not live until 2035 either | Apr 09 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | [02:12] <matey> /me thought they already solved 2038 | Apr 09 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | not for older embedded systems | Apr 09 02:13 |
| bnchs__ | can't even implement a linked list without the borrow checker being a bitch | Apr 09 02:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | some can last another 15 years | Apr 09 02:13 |
| matey | oh of course, those will fall over i guess | Apr 09 02:13 |
| matey | out of the sky | Apr 09 02:14 |
| MinceR | make the borrow checker _your_ bitch | Apr 09 02:14 |
| matey | drop out of orbit | Apr 09 02:14 |
| bnchs__ | MinceR: that's bad | Apr 09 02:14 |
| bnchs__ | just use C | Apr 09 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | fall out of orban | Apr 09 02:14 |
| matey | 2038: the year we have to put all the satellites back up | Apr 09 02:14 |
| matey | "my gps isnt working" | Apr 09 02:14 |
| MinceR | just switch to 64bit satellites | Apr 09 02:14 |
| matey | "yeah neither is the electrical grid" | Apr 09 02:14 |
| bnchs__ | i mean how can a simple concept like linked list is literally the worst to implement in rust | Apr 09 02:14 |
| matey | "darn satellites" | Apr 09 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | 128bit systems might be common by then | Apr 09 02:14 |
| bnchs__ | and when you bring this up to rust people | Apr 09 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they might leap ahead | Apr 09 02:15 |
| matey | i figure what theyll probably do is put up newer sats by then | Apr 09 02:15 |
| bnchs__ | they say "why do you need linked list" | Apr 09 02:15 |
| matey | maybe CUBEsats | Apr 09 02:15 |
| bnchs__ | "linked list is BAD anyway" | Apr 09 02:15 |
| matey | "just throw some smartphones up there really hard" | Apr 09 02:15 |
| matey | "and whatever god wants, he keeps" | Apr 09 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "is this a falling satellite or are you just excited to see me?" | Apr 09 02:15 |
| bnchs__ | falling satellite | Apr 09 02:16 |
| matey | look its space garbage! make a wish! | Apr 09 02:16 |
| bnchs__ | presented to you by elon starlink | Apr 09 02:16 |
| matey | "i wish people would stop using rust!" | Apr 09 02:16 |
| bnchs__ | now die bitch | Apr 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: rust won't last long | Apr 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | very few things of its kind do | Apr 09 02:16 |
| matey | you say about everything | Apr 09 02:16 |
| bnchs__ | when you can't implement a simple concept | Apr 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can list them on one hand's finger | Apr 09 02:16 |
| bnchs__ | when it's very likely it will die | Apr 09 02:16 |
| matey | "global warming wont last long" roy, or mincer | Apr 09 02:16 |
| MinceR | huh? | Apr 09 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux will have to do lots of rewriting when rust perishes | Apr 09 02:17 |
| matey | well he says it wont last long because its a problem | Apr 09 02:17 |
| matey | and you say it wont because humanity will kill itself anyway | Apr 09 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | like adobe flash/.swf files | Apr 09 02:17 |
| matey | thats the joke. i didnt say it was my best | Apr 09 02:17 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, linked list is used in POSIX's getaddrinfo API | Apr 09 02:17 |
| bnchs__ | they'll fuck up at that | Apr 09 02:17 |
| MinceR | global warming will stick around after humanity has killed itself off | Apr 09 02:17 |
| matey | i know | Apr 09 02:17 |
| matey | its not actually true | Apr 09 02:17 |
| matey | its deliberately silly | Apr 09 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | global WAR-ming | Apr 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're just getting warmed up | Apr 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "is it warming up or did putin do gorlla dust at chernobyl again?" | Apr 09 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | (fallout sickness) | Apr 09 02:19 |
| matey | the zone at chernobyl is populated at least | Apr 09 02:19 |
| bnchs__ | rust is another memelang | Apr 09 02:19 |
| matey | albeit not by many (for some reason) | Apr 09 02:19 |
| bnchs__ | it won't last a day | Apr 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | give it 5-10 years | Apr 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much by standards of Linux and GNU | Apr 09 02:19 |
| matey | github will probably move there for tax rasons | Apr 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | GNU turns 40 next year | Apr 09 02:19 |
| bnchs__ | you already have to do "unsafe" to do anything in rust | Apr 09 02:19 |
| matey | raisons | Apr 09 02:19 |
| matey | california raisons | Apr 09 02:19 |
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| matey | theyre actually french | Apr 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: arctic vault, chernobyl vault | Apr 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | protected from humans | Apr 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | using high radiation | Apr 09 02:20 |
| bnchs__ | tell me how many unsafe keywords you see on a typical rust project | Apr 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot even get close to the vault without vomiting | Apr 09 02:20 |
| matey | chernobyl is more suitable to human life than the arctic really | Apr 09 02:20 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, just wear a suit bro | Apr 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | suits me | Apr 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: I always do when I go food-shopping | Apr 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not hazmat but close | Apr 09 02:21 |
| bnchs__ | i mean a hazardous suit | Apr 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | only my eyes are showing, like a saudi woman | Apr 09 02:21 |
| matey | roy: n-what? | Apr 09 02:21 |
| bnchs__ | for when you wanna go to the vault | Apr 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | with holes in the garments or lines | Apr 09 02:21 |
| matey | lol@saudi woman | Apr 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who know me cannot recognise me | Apr 09 02:22 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, thats called the burqa | Apr 09 02:22 |
| bnchs__ | and it's banned in morocco | Apr 09 02:22 |
| bnchs__ | because for legal reasons blah blah blah | Apr 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless they know my bags or my wardrobe | Apr 09 02:22 |
| matey | moroccans have to wear proper ppe then | Apr 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | manchester is so p-c you cannot even say anything about "traditional" saudi garments for women | Apr 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's racist | Apr 09 02:23 |
| bnchs__ | they banned it because for "security reasons" | Apr 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the clothing is sexist, so... | Apr 09 02:23 |
| matey | /me didnt know saudi was a race | Apr 09 02:23 |
| bnchs__ | the burqa can be used to hide identities of criminals and terrorists | Apr 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this tolerance makes it OK for me to dress by the same coder | Apr 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | except it's sports attire | Apr 09 02:23 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR> GNU turns 40 next year | Apr 09 02:24 |
| matey | the burqa can be used to hide identities of criminals and terrorists "all spies must register with security officer" | Apr 09 02:24 |
| kingoffrance | i should add, although there is nothing to discuss, enlightenment was "the people are the state". there is no "stateless enlightenment" non-sequitor | Apr 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: doesn't matter anymor | Apr 09 02:24 |
| activelow | that's how long east germany existed: 40 years | Apr 09 02:24 |
| matey | gnu is already dead | Apr 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | islam is a "race" now | Apr 09 02:24 |
| matey | are christians a race too? | Apr 09 02:24 |
| activelow | it is a running gag, to say "40 years" | Apr 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a race you can change | Apr 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | apostacy notwithstanding | Apr 09 02:24 |
| kingoffrance | dont go there matey, or come to another channel :D | Apr 09 02:24 |
| bnchs__ | matey: it's actually a thing that was done before | Apr 09 02:24 |
| matey | kingoffrance: lol | Apr 09 02:24 |
| bnchs__ | people using burqas to hide weapons and shit | Apr 09 02:25 |
| matey | people using burqas to hide weapons and shit <- ruining burqas for everyone else! | Apr 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, now we have covid-19 | Apr 09 02:25 |
| bnchs__ | also sneaking in women toilet | Apr 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's self-defence | Apr 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and safety | Apr 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | to dress up well | Apr 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: you don't need clothing for that | Apr 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can join the they/them crowd | Apr 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then walk right in | Apr 09 02:26 |
| bnchs__ | transgender is not accepted here | Apr 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | which does cause alarm among women | Apr 09 02:26 |
| bnchs__ | they're just gonna laugh at you | Apr 09 02:26 |
| bnchs__ | better wear the burqa | Apr 09 02:26 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> which does cause alarm among women <- mostly jk rowling and nina paley though | Apr 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never thought of this burqa aspect | Apr 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like sneaking into women's toilet | Apr 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but if armed men can camouflage as women to enter places and shoot people, lavatories are possible too | Apr 09 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: I didn't know about paley | Apr 09 02:28 |
| matey | if armed men can camouflage as women to enter places and shoot people <- i mean they could do that before people started tackling transphobia | Apr 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe she skipped the whole twitter thing | Apr 09 02:28 |
| matey | I didn't know about paley <- she draws trans women as penises wearing a wig | Apr 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not nice | Apr 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | provocative | Apr 09 02:28 |
| matey | like a penis instead of a person-- with a little face and everything | Apr 09 02:28 |
| matey | that's not nice <- im sure she thinks its clever | Apr 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but many women do feel unsafe | Apr 09 02:29 |
| matey | im a bit disappointed by it | Apr 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see lots of them | Apr 09 02:29 |
| bnchs__ | there's also one thing | Apr 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they're not militant or radical | Apr 09 02:29 |
| bnchs__ | burqa is also a symbol of radical islam | Apr 09 02:29 |
| matey | women used to feel unsafe around black people too... | Apr 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are just mortified | Apr 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and feel uncomfortable | Apr 09 02:29 |
| bnchs__ | you know, the same radical islam associated with terrorists | Apr 09 02:29 |
| bnchs__ | like ISIS | Apr 09 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | " The EU needs to be tough on Putin, and tough on Orbán, but is that possible? " -Stallman | Apr 09 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Orban will be easier. | Apr 09 02:29 |
| matey | if women feel unsafe we should arm them | Apr 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | gay men in the men's WCs is not an issue | Apr 09 02:30 |
| matey | theyll feel better then | Apr 09 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I know, Hungary has no nukes and oil. | Apr 09 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | because gay men cannot 'overpower' you | Apr 09 02:30 |
| matey | seriously, its a legitimate approach. this is not merely an argument about guns (various ways to arm women against attackers) | Apr 09 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | or you don't sense that sort of threat anyway | Apr 09 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | I know some bears that would disagree. | Apr 09 02:30 |
| matey | well bears rarely sneak into lavatories | Apr 09 02:30 |
| matey | but im sure its happened at least once | Apr 09 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: is that an ACTUAL RMS quote? | Apr 09 02:31 |
| matey | more often in the northwest | Apr 09 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Yes, off of his blog. | Apr 09 02:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK | Apr 09 02:31 |
| matey | it doesnt look unlike a stallman quote | Apr 09 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | That he said Europe should be tough on Orban and Putin? | Apr 09 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | No more inviteskys from RT? | Apr 09 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | R what? | Apr 09 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was deplatformed heavily | Apr 09 02:32 |
| matey | /me doubts rms would go to russia right now, unless putin wanted him to give a talk on free software | Apr 09 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | removed from cablwe TV | Apr 09 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube | Apr 09 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | everything except their DDOSed site | Apr 09 02:32 |
| matey | rms would probably go to a taliban hideout if they asked him to give a talk on free software | Apr 09 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, even in the US it's hard to watch RT now, on TV. | Apr 09 02:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | their licences to operate in foreign soil like germany and ukj was revoked too | Apr 09 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if Dish Network still has them. Comcast and DirecTV got rid of them. | Apr 09 02:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | along with OAN | Apr 09 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | They had Jesse the WALRUS on a blurb talking about how RT didn't give you any fake news right as DirecTV pulled the plug on them. | Apr 09 02:33 |
| matey | "they put a bag over my head so i couldnt find out where they were located, but after they searched me for weapons we had a nice lunch and they had lots of questions about how free software could help in their fight against the infidels. i told them theres no god, but they said they werent offended as long as i wasnt saying there was any god besides allah." | Apr 09 02:34 |
| matey | "i also explained that free software wasnt only for fighting infidels but that freedom 0 means you can use the software for any purpose" | Apr 09 02:34 |
| activelow | lol | Apr 09 02:35 |
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| DaemonFC | <matey> "i also explained that free software wasnt only for fighting infidels but that freedom 0 means you can use the software for any purpose" | Apr 09 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | With an extra emphasis on the uranium enrichment. | Apr 09 02:37 |
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| matey | "we have all the equipment but dammit, this license forbids us to use it for this purpose!" | Apr 09 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | With RISC-V they can do it in total freedom. | Apr 09 02:38 |
| matey | "so now we will have to write our own software for this thing!" | Apr 09 02:38 |
| matey | With RISC-V they can do it in total freedom <- i dunno, sounds RISCy | Apr 09 02:39 |
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| matey | "hitler never played [with] RISC as a kid!" eddie izzard (who was probably talking about something else) | Apr 09 02:39 |
| activelow | the nuclear facilities in Iran were constructed in cooperation with... Siemens | Apr 09 02:40 |
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| matey | please write to the fsf and tell them to stop writing software that doesnt forbid people from murdering each other | Apr 09 02:40 |
| matey | i mean a law against murdering people is never enough | Apr 09 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | against self-hosting too | Apr 09 02:40 |
| matey | you ALSO need software licenses to tell people they cant do things that are already illegal. | Apr 09 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, it goes beyond that | Apr 09 02:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the CoC adds bans to existing laws | Apr 09 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's a corporate extension to law | Apr 09 02:41 |
| matey | and the CoE is going to be so much fun | Apr 09 02:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the enforcementr is arbitrarily done by their employees | Apr 09 02:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | not real courts | Apr 09 02:42 |
| activelow | that's not the legal scope of a _software_ license, and most software is _not_ subject to profiliferation concerns either | Apr 09 02:42 |
| matey | so it's a corporate extension <- also known as overthrow / co-opting | Apr 09 02:42 |
| matey | <activelow> that's not the legal scope of a _software_ license, and most software is _not_ subject to profiliferation concerns either <- yes but try explaining that to idiots | Apr 09 02:42 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> and the enforcementr is arbitrarily done by their employees <- this is a feature | Apr 09 02:43 |
| matey | basically we put corporations in charge of our freedom from corporations, and... oh, shit! why didnt anyone think of CODE OF ETHICS | Apr 09 02:43 |
| matey | code of ethics is going to be so much fun, there will be forks everywhere | Apr 09 02:43 |
| matey | but not everywhere, because MOST people (like the fsf) are just going to sit back and watch everything get taken over | Apr 09 02:44 |
| matey | the rest will rebuilt the movement-- as at that point, the movement is dead. | Apr 09 02:44 |
| matey | dead but not forgotten | Apr 09 02:44 |
| matey | we will rebuild of course. but most people will not come along for it. | Apr 09 02:44 |
| matey | not for a long time | Apr 09 02:44 |
| matey | this wont feature in stallmans state of free software speech | Apr 09 02:45 |
| matey | maybe he will mention the code of ethics but probably not | Apr 09 02:45 |
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| matey | since the board already has one. | Apr 09 02:45 |
| matey | thank joshua gay | Apr 09 02:45 |
| matey | hes the one who demanded it in 2019 (really he was just speaking for other people) | Apr 09 02:46 |
| matey | late sept 2019 | Apr 09 02:46 |
| matey | implemented by the fsf in 2022. | Apr 09 02:46 |
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| matey | it reads a lot like a code of conduct with "conduct" scratched out and replaced with "ethics" | Apr 09 02:47 |
| matey | but thats the future. | Apr 09 02:47 |
| matey | strike 3 on the fsf remakes the american version of the office | Apr 09 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I just ignore those. | Apr 09 02:47 |
| matey | i just dont support them | Apr 09 02:47 |
| matey | though as long as you dont want to talk at libreplanet, or on libera chat, or contribute (directly) to free software projects, its a non-issue | Apr 09 02:48 |
| matey | as long as you run your own project (with blackjack and hookers) then youre fine | Apr 09 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/south-carolina-schedules-1st-execution-with-firing-squad-ready/ | Apr 09 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | South Carolina schedules 1st execution with firing squad ready | WGN-TV | Apr 09 02:48 | |
| matey | a lot of people charged with sedition and terrorism have tried to opt for firing squad instead of hanging | Apr 09 02:49 |
| matey | including saddam | Apr 09 02:49 |
| matey | a number of bolsheviks executed under stalin | Apr 09 02:49 |
| matey | they should abolish the death penalty, but south carolina is already a banana republic posing as a state | Apr 09 02:51 |
| kingoffrance | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Atlantis_(journal) thats ok the non-enlightened people do "ethics" too | Apr 09 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The New Atlantis (journal) - Wikipedia | Apr 09 02:51 | |
| kingoffrance | and public policy | Apr 09 02:52 |
| matey | non-enlightened people are eager to replace ethics with policies | Apr 09 02:52 |
| kingoffrance | put the non-enlightened people in charge of enlightenment lol | Apr 09 02:52 |
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| matey | ethics involves debate and sometimes leaving things as they are (gasp!) rather than making them arbitrarily worse | Apr 09 02:52 |
| matey | policy people are fine with arbitrarily worse AS LONG AS ITS CONSISTENT | Apr 09 02:53 |
| matey | which just as the cherry on top, it never is (consistent) | Apr 09 02:53 |
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| matey | so we literally throw out reason in favour of consistency, which isnt even consistent. | Apr 09 02:53 |
| matey | give yourself a hand, coc-masters. | Apr 09 02:53 |
| matey | maybe im sentimental, but any captured and convicted dictator who prefers to be shot should be | Apr 09 02:56 |
| matey | hanging them is barbaric. if youre going to do that, why not just bring back stoning? | Apr 09 02:57 |
| matey | and these are all people who quote leviticus, while insisting they arent even held to it (except when they like it) | Apr 09 02:57 |
| matey | but since sc isnt in charge of that, its the federal gov and the armed forces who need to provide the option for firing squad | Apr 09 02:58 |
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| matey | my guess is they arent going to bother | Apr 09 02:59 |
| kingoffrance | "the CoC adds bans to existing laws so it's a corporate extension to law" schestowitz-TR wins. its an enlightened inquisition with private "courts" | Apr 09 03:01 |
| kingoffrance | just like the last time lol | Apr 09 03:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this is one for ETHICS | Apr 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | free speech isn't ethics | Apr 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporations are ethics | Apr 09 03:02 |
| matey | ethics > freedom! | Apr 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | condeming corporations is not ethical | Apr 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's UN-ethical | Apr 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | like UN | Apr 09 03:02 |
| matey | its hypocritical, because corporations arent the ONLY entities that do bad things </whataboutism> | Apr 09 03:03 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Apr 09 03:04 |
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| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T5HSNRrD-Ls | Apr 09 03:06 |
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| matey | its not an ad for the group, its commentary from former members who use an 18-second clip from an ad | Apr 09 03:08 |
| AdmFubar | ooopsie doodles again https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ | Apr 09 03:08 |
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| matey | who then talk about how fucked up it is | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol! | Apr 09 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmPokuDJbuL2FN7E9h2TvVkafexTCncL78fivWTmKvQBfi | Apr 09 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | go clown go | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | the clown is SAFETY! | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | censorship is safety | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | outsourcing is security | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | just don'tbe Russian!! | Apr 09 03:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember when gitLAB suffered data loss? | Apr 09 03:09 |
| matey | freedom is slavery. war is peace. outsourcing is security. | Apr 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: as I like to say, | Apr 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | GOING BACK TO MAINFRAME | Apr 09 03:09 |
| matey | oh yeah | Apr 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | is NOT "modernising" | Apr 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | or "keeping up with the time.." | Apr 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goal was to give computers to residential markets | Apr 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now they go in reverse | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and go, "ooooh oooooooo!!!!!! this is so much better" | Apr 09 03:10 |
| matey | the industry giveth and the industry taketh away when theres a buck to be made | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and WHY? | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | WHAT did we invent? | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the VM? | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | No. | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | That's old | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | 20 years | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | containers? | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | just another lousy implementation? | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | dataecentres? No. | Apr 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | redundancy? No. | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | That goes more than 50 years back | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so WHY? | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Why, clown, why? Why NOW? | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody can answer that!! | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, around 2011 I installed JIRA locally | Apr 09 03:11 |
| matey | "the ethics officer is an enforcer... hes going to dish out how much punishment you get" (from the above link) | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | on a server from like the 90s... | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a router | Apr 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | with postgres and all | Apr 09 03:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | slow like a snail | Apr 09 03:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | JIRA has become more bloated since | Apr 09 03:12 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ | Apr 09 03:12 |
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| matey | moores law cant keep up with bad design | Apr 09 03:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: XRevan86: latest audacious in kde-neon (2020 iirc) is 3.10/1 | Apr 09 03:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2018 | Apr 09 03:13 |
| *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) | Apr 09 03:13 | |
| matey | kingoffrance according to the above video, the cults "enforcement of ethics" has turned into "selling indulgences" | Apr 09 03:14 |
| matey | which is also true for open source | Apr 09 03:14 |
| kingoffrance | yeah lol | Apr 09 03:14 |
| kingoffrance | sounds about right lol | Apr 09 03:14 |
| matey | if youre a developer, you have to do what we tell you | Apr 09 03:14 |
| matey | but you can buy your freedom if youre a corporation | Apr 09 03:14 |
| matey | great plan, lets call it "ethics" | Apr 09 03:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | official web site speaks of 4.1 | Apr 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | feb 1 2022 | Apr 09 03:15 |
| *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights | Apr 09 03:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR | the site lacks rss/atom/xml | Apr 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I'd have liked to have and add | Apr 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: untrue | Apr 09 03:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a PR stunt | Apr 09 03:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it did fool their scientology-like cult | Apr 09 03:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about optics | Apr 09 03:17 |
| matey | official web site <- for what? | Apr 09 03:17 |
| techrights-news | Clown computing and data loss are two-word synonyms https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ | Apr 09 03:18 |
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| matey | audacious? | Apr 09 03:19 |
| techrights-news | Apple works for NSA. You need to be as gullible as an Apple "consumer" to believe otherwise (in the face of verifiable facts) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ | Apr 09 03:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | matey: yes | Apr 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use vlc and audacious alone | Apr 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | vlc is for video | Apr 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but audacious can play the audio tracks of video files OK | Apr 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and can look like winamp | Apr 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | which brings me back to my childhood | Apr 09 03:20 |
| matey | indeed | Apr 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a kid I even made a few winamp themes | Apr 09 03:20 |
| matey | i used winamp at one point | Apr 09 03:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't save them on backups, so lost them after dead drive | Apr 09 03:21 |
| matey | and xmms | Apr 09 03:21 |
| matey | though i use mplayer now | Apr 09 03:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | xmms was my sole media player for like 8 years | Apr 09 03:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | then minirok, amarok and others | Apr 09 03:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | amarok seems mostly abandoned now | Apr 09 03:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | there was a vibrant dutch team behind it at one point with active site and reports | Apr 09 03:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | minirok (dutch) was python based and light | Apr 09 03:22 |
| matey | # pkg_add amarok | Apr 09 03:22 |
| matey | Obsolete package: amarok (no longer maintained and full of security holes) | Apr 09 03:22 |
| matey | ^ what it actually says | Apr 09 03:22 |
| matey | "VW last year confirmed that one of the joint projects would be a redesigned Amarok based on the same T6 body-on-frame platform as the next Ford Ranger due for a reveal around the end of the year...." | Apr 09 03:23 |
| matey | lol | Apr 09 03:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: try minirok | Apr 09 03:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | see what it says | Apr 09 03:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | songbird also seems to have died ages ago | Apr 09 03:24 |
| matey | packaging python-based software seems to be a gnu/linux thing | Apr 09 03:25 |
| matey | its not available from pkg_add but given that its python-based thats not surprising | Apr 09 03:25 |
| matey | maybe its in ports though | Apr 09 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are both absent here too | Apr 09 03:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | obs. no songbird either | Apr 09 03:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | mplayer is hungarian iirc | Apr 09 03:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless something changed other than the forks | Apr 09 03:27 |
| matey | bellard is from hungary? | Apr 09 03:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 09 03:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | he's french | Apr 09 03:27 |
| activelow | i am glad original mplayer still exists, together with directfb support | Apr 09 03:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you think of vlc? | Apr 09 03:27 |
| matey | qemu, tinycc, mplayer | Apr 09 03:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Apr 09 03:28 |
| matey | no maybe im thinking ffmpeg | Apr 09 03:28 |
| kingoffrance | didnt know he was involved with mplayer | Apr 09 03:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | that''s a different french dev | Apr 09 03:28 |
| matey | which mplayer uses | Apr 09 03:28 |
| matey | i might be conflating mplayer and ffmpeg, which are related but not the same obviously | Apr 09 03:28 |
| activelow | mplayer with fbcon/fbcon2 doesn't require any c++ dependency at all, for video rendering, no sdl2, no directfb, although mode-switching and/or video output scaling didn't work with fbcon/fbcon2 last time i tried | Apr 09 03:29 |
| matey | mplayer was written originally by a guy named arpad | Apr 09 03:29 |
| matey | bellard is ffmpeg, not mplayer | Apr 09 03:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | he should get fsf award | Apr 09 03:30 |
| matey | mplayer with fbcon/fbcon2 doesn't require any c++ dependency at all <- nice | Apr 09 03:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but no... give it to people who never coded | Apr 09 03:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but who worked for fsf | Apr 09 03:30 |
| schestowitz | https://www.thejakartapost.com/culture/2022/04/08/author-and-filmmaker-richard-oh-passes-away-at-62.html | Apr 09 03:31 |
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| matey | The project was started by Fabrice Bellard (using the pseudonym "Gérard Lantau") in 2000, and was led by Michael Niedermayer from 2004 until 2015. | Apr 09 03:32 |
| matey | Gérard Lantau <- heh | Apr 09 03:32 |
| techrights-news | Oh, REALLY? Avast itself has been proven to be spyware if not malware. If you install it, you've let a malicious entity penetrate past your defences! https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2022/04/05/avast-adds-new-privacy-and-scam-protection-features-to-avast-one | Apr 09 03:32 |
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| matey | thats in reference to qemu i believe | Apr 09 03:32 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer | Apr 09 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MPlayer - Wikipedia | Apr 09 03:32 | |
| schestowitz | Websitemplayerhq.hu | Apr 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | "The original author, Hungarian Árpád Gereöffy" | Apr 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | I won't even try to read that name | Apr 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | it looks a little Swedish | Apr 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | "mplayer2 was a GPLv3-licensed fork of MPlayer, largely the work of Uoti Urpala, who was excluded from the MPlayer project in May 2010 due to "long standing differences" with the MPlayer Team.[16] The main changes from MPlayer were improved pause handling, Matroska support, seeking, and support for Nvidia VDPAU; enabling multithreading by default; and the removal of MEncoder, the GUI interface, and various video drivers and bundled libraries, such | Apr 09 03:34 |
| schestowitz | as ffmpeg, relying instead on shared libraries.[17][18] The developers also indicated intentions to enable MPlayer2 to use libav as an alternative to ffmpeg.[19] The first release, 2.0, was published in March 2011. There have been no subsequent stable releases." | Apr 09 03:34 |
| schestowitz | I use mpv sometimes | Apr 09 03:34 |
| matey | 02:29 <matey> mplayer was written originally by a guy named arpad | Apr 09 03:34 |
| matey | 02:29 <matey> bellard is ffmpeg, not mplayer | Apr 09 03:34 |
| matey | largely the work of Uoti Urpala, who was excluded from the MPlayer project in May 2010 due to "long standing differences" with the MPlayer Team | Apr 09 03:35 |
| techrights-news | MOAR proprietary software will NOT protect you. Is is a liability. https://www.joplinglobe.com/region/national_business/arcserve-enhances-key-ransomware-defense-solution/article_12a1efe5-95be-5df8-85f7-bfa8b459621c.html | Apr 09 03:35 |
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| techrights-news | Hoarded by Michael Larabel, as AMD prioritised bribes, not customers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/amd_threadripper_supply/ | Apr 09 03:36 |
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| matey | https://libregamewiki.org/Uoti_Urpala Uoti Urpala is a member of the XPilot NG project.[1] This page was last edited on 11 August 2018, at 19:23. From LibreGameWiki, the libre, opensource and free games encyclopedia. | Apr 09 03:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libregamewiki.org | Uoti Urpala - Libregamewiki | Apr 09 03:36 | |
| schestowitz | sounds Finnish | Apr 09 03:37 |
| matey | mplayer2 was created by Uoti Urpala who had his disagreements with the original MPlayer team and made his own version with streamlined build system and throwing out many hacks of the original code. | Apr 09 03:37 |
| activelow | well yes, chances are tinycc+mplayer(fbcon/fbcon2)+ffmpeg are possible with a c-only profile, all nasty dependencies removed, and support audio/video with it; in fact i got mplayer inside this c-profile already | Apr 09 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | mplayer was vital around 2002 | Apr 09 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the days of divx | Apr 09 03:39 |
| activelow | SDL1/2 and directfb are written in c++, yet are not necessary for audio/video with mplayer | Apr 09 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the web was still littered with WMP crap | Apr 09 03:39 |
| mjg59_ | You're going to have awful performance hitting fbcon directly | Apr 09 03:39 |
| mjg59_ | No hardware rescaling | Apr 09 03:39 |
| activelow | mjg59_: mplayer+directfb is very efficient and fast, sufficient for DVD/PAL resolution, on a low-power cortex a53 | Apr 09 03:40 |
| mjg59_ | Have to do YUV→RGB by hand | Apr 09 03:40 |
| activelow | yet, directfb is written in c++; and gcc probably applies some auto-vectorization, utilization of FPU etc. | Apr 09 03:40 |
| activelow | the only problem with fbcon/fbcon2: missing video-output scaling | Apr 09 03:41 |
| activelow | that's why, i keep directfb, outside the c-only base-system profile | Apr 09 03:42 |
| techrights-news | "Daniel Kühl is a DevOps Engineer"... oh, 'DevOps' https://fedoramagazine.org/samba-as-ad-and-domain-controller/ | Apr 09 03:42 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> mplayer was vital around 2002 <- i like it because its simply the least bullshit video player ever made | Apr 09 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Samba as AD and Domain Controller - Fedora Magazine | Apr 09 03:42 | |
| matey | i used to be a vlc fan | Apr 09 03:42 |
| matey | it got really stupid (ymmv) | Apr 09 03:42 |
| matey | but i used to really love vlc | Apr 09 03:42 |
| matey | mplayer hasnt let me down | Apr 09 03:42 |
| techrights-news | Sayak Boral does not want you to know about GNU/Linux. Longtime Microsoft booster. https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-high-memory-usage-windows/ | Apr 09 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Fix High Memory Usage in Windows - Make Tech Easier | Apr 09 03:43 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ | Apr 09 03:43 |
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| matey | mplayer is definitely not the friendliest gui player because those are addons | Apr 09 03:43 |
| matey | usually maintained by people who care less than mplayer itself, so they come and go | Apr 09 03:43 |
| matey | but i always use mplayer from the cli and it has enough keyboard shortcuts | Apr 09 03:44 |
| activelow | i welcome mplayer doesn't require any gui at all, midnight commander, press enter, done. | Apr 09 03:44 |
| matey | right | Apr 09 03:44 |
| techrights-news | howtoforge has not been inaccessible for nearly a month due to the virus known as clownflare. RSS feed is practically dead, as RSS readers cannot solve JS challenges. Maybe howtoforge got all sadistic and wants to commit suicide. | Apr 09 03:44 |
| matey | plus i used to use it from the framebuffer | Apr 09 03:44 |
| matey | even when x wasnt running | Apr 09 03:44 |
| techrights-news | The Unexpected Importance of the Trailing Slash – Tookmund – A place for my random thoughts about software ⚓ https://tookmund.com/2022/04/importance-of-the-trailing-slash ䷉ Source: tookmund | Apr 09 03:45 |
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| matey | vlc used to be no-bullshit, when i had to twiddle controls just to get decent playback i gave up on it | Apr 09 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | [03:43] <AdmFubar> https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ | Apr 09 03:46 |
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| schestowitz-TR | aamzon also | Apr 09 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown computing | Apr 09 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | make a masked scooby doo meme | Apr 09 03:46 |
| matey | theres been a notable (and noted) degredation of performance and reliability on more than one platform | Apr 09 03:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's see who you REALLY are!" | Apr 09 03:46 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Apr 09 03:46 |
| matey | but it must still behave for some people | Apr 09 03:46 |
| activelow | problem within X11 is this: missing rendering backend, which is fast and efficient to output DVD/PAL resolution video without any of the proprietary/GPU "acceleration" magic | Apr 09 03:47 |
| matey | problem within X11 is this: missing rendering backend <- its not the same with the framebuffer? | Apr 09 03:47 |
| activelow | the GPU "acceleration" magic is a marketing scam; the main CPU can do it, with it's FPU and SIMD units; | Apr 09 03:47 |
| activelow | which is another irony of SIMD and FPU, those were explicitely designed for "multimedia" processing | Apr 09 03:48 |
| techrights-news | Clown computing is a bait-and-switch trap; Microsoft is a bunch of criminals, preying on the poorest https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ | Apr 09 03:48 |
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| activelow | and, SIMD isn't necessary either, for example, DirectFB can multi-thread the rendering to dedicated multicore FPUs, if there is multiple present of them, which they are almost always | Apr 09 03:49 |
| matey | isnt it a shorter path (bus) from graphics adapter to gpu than from graphics adapter to cpu though? | Apr 09 03:49 |
| matey | i mean im not a gpu fan | Apr 09 03:49 |
| matey | but id like to understand this | Apr 09 03:49 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft be like, President Biden, please bail us out so we can carry on plundering charities http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ | Apr 09 03:49 |
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| matey | what i mean is | Apr 09 03:50 |
| matey | isnt there a good reason (at least hypothetically) to have a gpu INSTEAD of using cpu features? | Apr 09 03:50 |
| matey | even cpu features designed for graphics processing? | Apr 09 03:50 |
| activelow | depends, not sure what the problem would be; with regards to memory bandwidth, the cortex a53 yields ~4GiB/s, which is good enough for a fast and efficient framebuffer | Apr 09 03:50 |
| matey | i dont like gpus because they tend to be the most proprietary hardware in almost everything | Apr 09 03:50 |
| matey | im not a fan of that. | Apr 09 03:51 |
| activelow | the entire software-stack for GPU is rigged | Apr 09 03:51 |
| matey | right youve explained that, its very interesting | Apr 09 03:51 |
| activelow | complicated, bloated, a gigantic dependency graph, down from hardware level, kernel, libraries, requirement of LLVM/Clang compiler | Apr 09 03:52 |
| matey | but even so it seems like moving from fpu and simd to gpu in and of itself isnt a stupid idea | Apr 09 03:52 |
| matey | the way they did it at least, seems dirty | Apr 09 03:52 |
| techrights-news | They call it clown computing because it'll all end up as a mushroom clown | Apr 09 03:52 |
| kingoffrance | he suggested a stable ISA for a stable SOC "The Thirty Million Line Problem" so, anyone could do whatever GPU inside there they want, just present a consistent interface | Apr 09 03:53 |
| kingoffrance | https://caseymuratori.com/blog_0031 | Apr 09 03:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-caseymuratori.com | The Thirty-Million-Line Problem (2015) | Apr 09 03:53 | |
| techrights-news | Many companies exist in no form other than paper, more so with "IT" companies which outsourced themselves to "the clown"; they don't have any possessions, not even servers!! | Apr 09 03:53 |
| kingoffrance | he roughly implies it is because people wanted customizable/flexible hardware (cards) | Apr 09 03:53 |
| activelow | well, the cortex-a53, with which i removed and deactivated all GPU "acceleration", requires less than 5watts | Apr 09 03:54 |
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| techrights-news | Companies "moving to the clown" = outsourcing and LIQUIDATING | Apr 09 03:54 |
| activelow | and it got no dedicated GPU memory anyway, and had to share the the memory bandwidth with main CPU; | Apr 09 03:54 |
| kingoffrance | ^ yes, this was AGP IIRC | Apr 09 03:55 |
| activelow | one issue remaining could be real-time video-encoding; although even this should be possible for DVD/PAL resolution, implemented in software, executed on main CPU | Apr 09 03:55 |
| techrights-news | "Why is there downtime, boss?" "The clown" "Why data loss?" "The clown" "Who's accountable?" "The Clown!!" Same with "Hey Hi" and other corporate buzzword bullshit. | Apr 09 03:56 |
| activelow | with the cortex-a53 and ARM NEON simd, software-rendering is fast enough, for yq2, prboom - 5watts | Apr 09 03:56 |
| activelow | and i suspect, the ARMv7 hardfloat ABI variant should be even faster than the aarch64/neon optimization i tested; couldn't test the armv7 hardfloat ABI yet | Apr 09 03:57 |
| techrights-news | Hungary has outsourced its leadership to "the clown", just like Belarus | Apr 09 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: : ^ | Apr 09 03:57 |
| mjg59_ | Well, you'd hope it's fast enough for prboom, it ran without hardware acceleration on 486s | Apr 09 03:57 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: they couldn't help it, that's what their beloved hypePhones and hypePads come with | Apr 09 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | do a clown migration | Apr 09 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the Orban circus can send the cabinet back | Apr 09 03:59 |
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| schestowitz-TR | he does "multiclown" already | Apr 09 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | is kremlin is down, he uses the EU | Apr 09 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and vice versa | Apr 09 03:59 |
| activelow | software rendering at DVD/PAL resolution _and_ upscaling to FullHD, with 5watts power draw; this is what the abandoned directfb and mplayer can do | Apr 09 03:59 |
| MinceR | i think he's more likely to use paper | Apr 09 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | hitler and stalin imposed multiclown on poland | Apr 09 04:00 |
| MinceR | but iirc jozsef szajer bragged about using a hypePad to write the "basic law" | Apr 09 04:00 |
| activelow | obviously, increasing resolution from 640x480 to 1920x1080 requires roughly 10x the processing power | Apr 09 04:00 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: You could do it in less than 5W if you used GPU functionality | Apr 09 04:00 |
| MinceR | none of them are competent enough to realize what a national security risk that is | Apr 09 04:00 |
| activelow | i486/DOS was more efficient too | Apr 09 04:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: I did not hear of that law | Apr 09 04:01 |
| *matey (~matey@uyycfdpcfwkrc.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 09 04:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | basic people pass basic laws | Apr 09 04:01 |
| MinceR | it's fideath's replacement for the constitution | Apr 09 04:01 |
| activelow | mjg59_: the ARMv7 hardfloat ABI _is_ what a GPU does anyway, and the framebuffer is still there; the mali-opengl stuff is just some redundant silicon | Apr 09 04:01 |
| MinceR | hungary is so unconstitutional it doesn't even have a constitution | Apr 09 04:01 |
| mjg59_ | activelow: You don't understand what GPUs do | Apr 09 04:02 |
| matey | MinceR "if thats what parenthood means that should go away too" <- there are people working on that | Apr 09 04:02 |
| MinceR | many people are working on human extinction | Apr 09 04:02 |
| matey | /me figures the gpu is like a math coprocessor but for graphics | Apr 09 04:02 |
| activelow | i would prefer some extra _general purpose_ cortex ARM cores, with slighlty more L2 cache, instead of the proprietary acceleration voodoo of opengl | Apr 09 04:02 |
| MinceR | most of them don't know they are :> | Apr 09 04:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Simple minds talk about people, | Apr 09 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Average minds talk about events, | Apr 09 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Great minds talk about ideas. | Apr 09 04:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 04:02 |
| kingoffrance | ^ "parents" doesnt matter, but noone agrees on what "family" means. | Apr 09 04:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | Obran: let's talk about sex, baby putin | Apr 09 04:02 |
| kingoffrance | like matey said, noone agrees on what is a "race" either | Apr 09 04:02 |
| matey | meh, talking about ideas also means talking about people fucking those ideas up. | Apr 09 04:02 |
| matey | kingoffrance: i was being a bit facetious though | Apr 09 04:03 |
| kingoffrance | *implied dont mean to put words in your mouth | Apr 09 04:03 |
| matey | though you may be right | Apr 09 04:03 |
| matey | oh no worries | Apr 09 04:03 |
| kingoffrance | enlightenment never solved that either | Apr 09 04:03 |
| activelow | even better, instead of ARM cortex cores, would be some real free and opensource hardware; which there isn't any for vt100 termination with PS/2 and VGA | Apr 09 04:03 |
| matey | no amount of enlightment can change the fact that some people are idiots | Apr 09 04:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they get promoted | Apr 09 04:04 |
| matey | and theres the difference between enlightnment and utopianism | Apr 09 04:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the media calls them geniuses | Apr 09 04:04 |
| activelow | HDMI is a huge problem... although some opensource verilog/hdl exist for this too | Apr 09 04:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | HDMI and opensource? | Apr 09 04:04 |
| *schestowitz-TR shivers a bit | Apr 09 04:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "we need OPEN SOURCE DRM!!" | Apr 09 04:05 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR: opencores got something for HDMI, although i had not seen a full SoC design implementing all requires parts | Apr 09 04:05 |
| matey | /me doesnt think sbcs are going back to vga db-15 but maybe they will | Apr 09 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | -Said nobody, maybe next OSI leader :-) | Apr 09 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | Miguel de Icaza: let's make "open source" .NET and Silverlight and... | Apr 09 04:05 |
| matey | i prefer db-15, alas i have no pull with the hardware industry | Apr 09 04:05 |
| MinceR | i don't miss d-sub | Apr 09 04:06 |
| MinceR | hdmi works so much better | Apr 09 04:06 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, April 08, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 09 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Apr 09 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 09 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 09 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163529 | Apr 09 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 09 04:06 | |
| matey | it seems like a vector for something bad that isnt here yet (except when it is) | Apr 09 04:06 |
| matey | maybe its just the usb of video, i dont know | Apr 09 04:06 |
| matey | though that seems bad enough | Apr 09 04:07 |
| MinceR | usb can do displayport already, at least on usb-c | Apr 09 04:07 |
| matey | i mean ive done vga over usb | Apr 09 04:07 |
| matey | it sucks though | Apr 09 04:07 |
| activelow | USB1 verilog/hdl is available too, opencores | Apr 09 04:07 |
| matey | vga over usb is great, after youve booted into x11 | Apr 09 04:08 |
| matey | but until then you have no fucking display | Apr 09 04:08 |
| matey | less great. | Apr 09 04:08 |
| mjg59_ | Are there any free drivers for Displaylink VGA/USB yet? | Apr 09 04:08 |
| matey | so its good for something like connecting a projector thats so old... | Apr 09 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | usb universal cereal breakfast | Apr 09 04:08 |
| matey | part of a balanced distro | Apr 09 04:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | 100+ bugs | Apr 09 04:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | some very severe | Apr 09 04:09 |
| matey | <mjg59_> Are there any free drivers for Displaylink VGA/USB yet? <- dunno | Apr 09 04:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html | Apr 09 04:09 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html | Apr 09 04:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers - The New York Times | Apr 09 04:09 | |
| activelow | there isn't any free and opensource implementation for vt100 termination with PS/2 and VGA at least | Apr 09 04:09 |
| schestowitz | "Tiny transceivers are built into USB plugs and inserted into target computers. Small circuit boards may be placed in the computers themselves" | Apr 09 04:09 |
| matey | /me is sort of partial to display solutions that show the vt (and work before x11 is loaded) | Apr 09 04:11 |
| MinceR | so am i | Apr 09 04:11 |
| matey | so that includes things as low-tech as an sold serial port. | Apr 09 04:11 |
| matey | but not something as fancy as vga over usb | Apr 09 04:12 |
| MinceR | i almost got a real serial terminal years ago | Apr 09 04:12 |
| matey | as for serial port over usb its probably the same problem :) | Apr 09 04:12 |
| MinceR | but i had no way to transport it, no place to store it, and little use for it | Apr 09 04:12 |
| matey | well, maybe not with x11 per se | Apr 09 04:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: Maybe for cubexyz | Apr 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | (mark) | Apr 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems the death of freenode kept him away | Apr 09 04:13 |
| MinceR | strange, considering that this is not freenode | Apr 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D555.jpg | Apr 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D197.jpg | Apr 09 04:15 |
| MinceR | :3 | Apr 09 04:15 |
| matey | i dont know, ive heard stories about why people left before | Apr 09 04:16 |
| techrights-news | New gemlog URL format (and how it works) gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/53 | Apr 09 04:16 |
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| techrights-news | "The student movements of the 1960s were among the first to politicize the computer — at the time, massive mainframes that only governments, corporations, and universities could afford. Mario Savio, leader of the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, famously invoked opposition to "the machine" in his attacks on the bureaucratization and soullessness " gemini://beyondneolithic.life/mueller_archive/breaking_things_at_work/high_tech_luddism | Apr 09 04:17 |
| techrights-news | False: If only people knew the truth about empire, it would crumble gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/if_only_they_knew.gmi | Apr 09 04:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: he has an account here | Apr 09 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was here for a while | Apr 09 04:19 |
| MinceR | good | Apr 09 04:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember msb? | Apr 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | mark bilk? | Apr 09 04:20 |
| MinceR | yes | Apr 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | when people stop going online you sometimes wonder | Apr 09 04:20 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | bilk even came here to irc from the hospital iirc | Apr 09 04:20 |
| frog | anyone know simple image uploader site? | Apr 09 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was also in suse, usenet... | Apr 09 04:21 |
| matey | frog: not anymore | Apr 09 04:21 |
| MinceR | ibb.co, catbox.moe, 0x0.st | Apr 09 04:21 |
| MinceR | shittyurl.org | Apr 09 04:21 |
| frog | thx | Apr 09 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | catbox :3 | Apr 09 04:21 |
| MinceR | np | Apr 09 04:21 |
| MinceR | catbox is often offline | Apr 09 04:21 |
| MinceR | but has a js-free version at nofun.catbox.moe | Apr 09 04:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a shittyurl anyway | Apr 09 04:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 09 04:21 |
| matey | people disappear from online communities for all sorts of reasons | Apr 09 04:22 |
| matey | often because of time constraints (kid born, new job) or they lose interest (even if they were passionately interested before) or because theyve grown tired of some form of harassment (public, private) | Apr 09 04:23 |
| matey | i disappeared from one community many years ago because of death threats and constant harassment | Apr 09 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the community shuts down | Apr 09 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | little is left of diapora | Apr 09 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many active users | Apr 09 04:24 |
| matey | yeah like puppys main interaction was at the murge forums | Apr 09 04:24 |
| matey | murga died, forums went down | Apr 09 04:24 |
| matey | theres still a puppy forum but nothing like the murga forum | Apr 09 04:24 |
| matey | most of the history of the distro is on the murga forum | Apr 09 04:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | was | Apr 09 04:25 |
| matey | or would be, if it were online | Apr 09 04:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | gn | Apr 09 04:25 |
| matey | right | Apr 09 04:25 |
| frog | i got inspired by the clown so.. | Apr 09 04:25 |
| frog | http://0x0.st/obgs.png | Apr 09 04:25 |
| frog | The below 2 images are captured just now (tor browser) | Apr 09 04:26 |
| matey | yeah sourceforge has gotten a bit shit lately | Apr 09 04:29 |
| matey | on this front | Apr 09 04:29 |
| matey | and change.org is a joke imo | Apr 09 04:30 |
| matey | someone should do am investigation of how much it has actually changed | Apr 09 04:31 |
| frog | Many sites are joining to Clown cafe each day and it reached 22,000,000 last week | Apr 09 04:31 |
| matey | it might be an elephant whistle | Apr 09 04:31 |
| frog | https://archive.org/details/crimeflare | Apr 09 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Cloudflare Domains (April 2022) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | Apr 09 04:31 | |
| matey | it reached 22,000,000 last week | Apr 09 04:31 |
| frog | (as base domains) | Apr 09 04:32 |
| matey | clownworld... wide web | Apr 09 04:32 |
| frog | this is about 10% of total ICANN-registered domains | Apr 09 04:32 |
| matey | wow | Apr 09 04:32 |
| matey | nice stat | Apr 09 04:32 |
| matey | "the github of the web" | Apr 09 04:32 |
| matey | "the github of websites" | Apr 09 04:32 |
| matey | github is like this too... id say more than half of free software is there now | Apr 09 04:33 |
| frog | we usually push the list to above archive but the secondary git is down (probably ddos) | Apr 09 04:33 |
| frog | so no cake tomorrow | Apr 09 04:33 |
| matey | is the code there? | Apr 09 04:33 |
| frog | yup | Apr 09 04:33 |
| frog | aaand its down lol | Apr 09 04:33 |
| matey | nice, bnchs was looking for it | Apr 09 04:33 |
| frog | can't contact the maintainer anyway since about 3 or 4 days ago. | Apr 09 04:33 |
| frog | hope he's ok | Apr 09 04:34 |
| matey | maybe clownflare thugs are talking to him in a basement | Apr 09 04:34 |
| frog | or maybe in conflict with ukr war | Apr 09 04:34 |
| matey | that would suck | Apr 09 04:34 |
| frog | he's in europe so that might a possibility | Apr 09 04:35 |
| matey | even if hes fine, the downtime could TECHNICALLY be related | Apr 09 04:35 |
| frog | ddos happens anytime | Apr 09 04:35 |
| matey | indeed | Apr 09 04:35 |
| matey | slitaz was ddosed for months | Apr 09 04:36 |
| matey | so they moved to github | Apr 09 04:36 |
| matey | then they left again | Apr 09 04:36 |
| matey | more recently puppylinux.com was taken down (from github) because it was being ddosed | Apr 09 04:36 |
| matey | so github wont protect you from ddosing, if anything theyll knock you offline for it | Apr 09 04:37 |
| frog | self-hosted gitea might be a solution for them | Apr 09 04:37 |
| matey | puppy (as a project) isnt smart enough to use gitea | Apr 09 04:37 |
| matey | they might have the technical ability, but not the will | Apr 09 04:37 |
| frog | yeah running server cost time and money | Apr 09 04:38 |
| matey | even if you have time and money, it requires committment | Apr 09 04:38 |
| matey | and theyd rather outsource to microsoft | Apr 09 04:38 |
| frog | "committment" <- of course | Apr 09 04:38 |
| frog | gotta back to swimming | Apr 09 04:40 |
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| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/benito-juarez-high-school-to-ban-cell-phone-use-for-students/ | Apr 09 04:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Benito Juarez High School to ban cell phone use for students | WGN-TV | Apr 09 04:42 | |
| DaemonFC | Measure Title: A bill to prohibit the importation of energy products of the Russian Federation, and for other purposes. | Apr 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Vote Counts: | Apr 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | YEAs100 | Apr 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | NAYs | Apr 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | 0 | Apr 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Nice | Apr 09 04:44 |
| activelow | where, when? | Apr 09 04:45 |
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| DaemonFC | The Senate, yesterday. | Apr 09 05:00 |
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| MinceR | Palpatine? | Apr 09 05:01 |
| activelow | propaganda lie, of either side, since a recent report was oil imports from russia into USA _increased_ +40% recently, few days ago | Apr 09 05:03 |
| activelow | although, i cannot verify myself, if www.anti-spiegel.ru was credible; the author of this site got access to russian-language documents and insight into the oil/gas trade located in Sankt Petersburg | Apr 09 05:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How You’re Still Being Tracked on the Internet - The New York Times | Apr 09 05:33 | |
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| techrights-news | "Okay, wow, my post about an empty file has generated a lot of feedback, mostly for the throwaway line at the bottom" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/04/07/empty/ | Apr 09 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | Lots of feedback about /bin/true, and more empty file fun | Apr 09 07:44 | |
| techrights-news | "QR codes are not inherently dangerous. They are simply a way to store data. However, just as it can be hazardous" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/mobility/how-qr-codes-work-and-what-makes-them-dangerous-a-computer-scientist-explains/90726665 | Apr 09 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | QR codes: How QR codes work and what makes them dangerous: A computer scientist explains, CIO News, ET CIO | Apr 09 07:44 | |
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| techrights-news | "I want to install Ubuntu for playing games on external SSD, so I don’t have to touch my boot loader." https://www.boucek.me/blog/installing-ubuntu-from-freebsd/ | Apr 09 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Installing Ubuntu from FreeBSD · boucek.me | Apr 09 07:46 | |
| techrights-news | An update to Raspberry Pi OS Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33312 | Apr 09 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines | Apr 09 07:49 | |
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| techrights-news | "My coffee-fuelled retrocomputing adventures have reached the point where I’ve realised these machines are not only older than people at school now" https://rubenerd.com/computers-and-the-passing-of-time/ | Apr 09 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Computers and the passing of time | Apr 09 07:51 | |
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| techrights-news | OpenSSH 9.0 Release Notes https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-9.0 | Apr 09 08:00 |
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| techrights-news | "I am on a number of different compiler mailing lists. One of those is the mailing list for the Tiny C Compiler." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220406.html | Apr 09 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-briancallahan.net | Brian Robert Callahan | Apr 09 08:02 | |
| techrights-news | "Some of the magic of not having to do any chpwd hooks at all are clearly negated by this" https://blog.cyborch.com/making-nvm-and-volta-co-exist-with-zsh/ | Apr 09 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cyborch.com | Making Nvm And Volta Co-exist With Zsh | Apr 09 08:03 | |
| techrights-news | Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions https://unixsheikh.com/articles/dont-use-reddit-for-linux-or-bsd-related-questions.html Reddit is a Microsoft propaganda tool http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ | Apr 09 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixsheikh.com | Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions | Apr 09 08:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights | Apr 09 08:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Fellay’s concerns are a microcosm of one of the world’s biggest technological problems." https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25433810-300-an-extreme-form-of-encryption-could-solve-big-datas-privacy-problem/ | Apr 09 08:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | An extreme form of encryption could solve big data's privacy problem | New Scientist | Apr 09 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | “I was shocked to see that you are taking part in spreading misinformation and harassing me online,” she wrote to him in an email. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/California-math-wars-get-ugly-Accusations-of-17060072.php | Apr 09 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfchronicle.com | California math wars get ugly: Accusations of racism and harassment ignite battle between Stanford and Cal profs | Apr 09 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | "This is not the first time that Boaler has received threatening messages in response to her work in education." https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-professors-level-accusations-as-debate-over-state-math-curriculum-rages/ | Apr 09 08:08 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: stanforddaily.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-professors-level-accusations-as-debate-over-state-math-curriculum-rages/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-professors-level-accusations-as-debate-over-state-math-curriculum-rages/ | Apr 09 08:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stanforddaily.com | Stanford and Cal professors level accusations as debate over state math curriculum rages | The Stanford Daily | Apr 09 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | "A report by the organization revealed that, in several countries, boys are at greater risk than girls of repeating years of schooling" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/UNESCO-Warns-That-132-Million-Children-Do-Not-Receive-Education-20220408-0002.html | Apr 09 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telesurenglish.net | UNESCO Warns That 132 Million Children Do Not Receive Education | News | teleSUR English | Apr 09 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | "The survey also showed that roughly one in three snus users got hold of the product via social media platforms." https://yle.fi/news/3-12397250 | Apr 09 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | One in three teens buys snus on social media, study finds | News | Yle Uutiset | Apr 09 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | "The new document is still just a draft, and device makers won’t start using it until it’s finalized after another round of feedback." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/8/23016588/medical-device-cybersecurity-fda-congress-hacking | Apr 09 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The US is trying to fix medical devices’ big cybersecurity problem - The Verge | Apr 09 08:10 | |
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| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://www.voanews.com/a/6518932.html | Apr 09 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Chinese Hackers Reportedly Target India’s Power Grid | Apr 09 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://www.secureworks.com/research/shadowpad-malware-analysis | Apr 09 08:24 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: secureworks.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.secureworks.com/research/shadowpad-malware-analysis https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.secureworks.com/research/shadowpad-malware-analysis | Apr 09 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ShadowPad Malware Analysis | Secureworks | Apr 09 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Screens on devices at the council’s car parks are meant to show its website" https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/20049469.electric-vehicle-chargepoints-hacked-show-porn/ | Apr 09 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.countypress.co.uk | Electric vehicle chargepoints hacked to show porn | Isle of Wight County Press | Apr 09 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | "Founded in 2012, Nord Security is now valued at 1.6 billion dollars." https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1667427/security-startup-becomes-lithuania-s-second-unicorn | Apr 09 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lrt.lt | Security startup becomes Lithuania’s second unicorn - LRT | Apr 09 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | From Windows to GNU/Linux https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ | Apr 09 08:29 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: duncanlock.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ | Apr 09 08:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using Windows after 15 years on Linux · duncanlock.net | Apr 09 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | HEY HI proprietary hype https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/2022/0406/Why-did-you-make-that-decision-AI-systems-learn-to-explain | Apr 09 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-‘Explainable AI’ shows businesses how it arrived at its conclusions - CSMonitor.com | Apr 09 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://yle.fi/news/3-12397024 | Apr 09 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Finnish foreign affairs and defence ministry websites hit by cyber attacks | News | Yle Uutiset | Apr 09 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-disrupts-cyclops-blink-botnet-by-hacking-infected-devices | Apr 09 08:31 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: pcmag.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-disrupts-cyclops-blink-botnet-by-hacking-infected-devices https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-disrupts-cyclops-blink-botnet-by-hacking-infected-devices | Apr 09 08:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Disrupts 'Cyclops Blink' Botnet by Hacking Infected Devices | PCMag | Apr 09 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://www.csoonline.com/article/3240364/what-is-a-botnet.html | Apr 09 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | What is a botnet? When infected devices attack | CSO Online | Apr 09 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://www.thecable.ng/alert-malware-targeting-routers-windows-pcs-in-circulation-ncc-warns | Apr 09 08:32 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: thecable.ng | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thecable.ng/alert-malware-targeting-routers-windows-pcs-in-circulation-ncc-warns https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thecable.ng/alert-malware-targeting-routers-windows-pcs-in-circulation-ncc-warns | Apr 09 08:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thecable.ng | ALERT: Malware targeting routers, Windows PCs in circulation, NCC warns | TheCable | Apr 09 08:32 | |
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| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://sciencenigeria.com/ncc-uncovers-cyber-threats-to-windows-platforms-routers/ | Apr 09 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sciencenigeria.com | NCC Uncovers Cyber Threats to Windows Platforms, Routers | Science Nigeria | Apr 09 08:44 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/129286/malware/dirtymoe-modules-worm-like-techniques.html | Apr 09 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityaffairs.co | DirtyMoe modules expand the bot using worm-like techniquesSecurity Affairs | Apr 09 08:44 | |
| techrights-news | "these approaches all have major downsides. Let’s take a quick look at some of these and try to squeeze them into a pass/fail score, ignoring most of the nuance." these approaches all have major downsides. Let’s take a quick look at some of these and try to squeeze them into a pass/fail score, ignoring most of the nuance." https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/07/passwords/ | Apr 09 08:46 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: kevincox.ca | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/07/passwords/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/07/passwords/ | Apr 09 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevincox.ca | Maybe Passwords are the Future | Apr 09 08:46 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▇▅▁▆▅▅▆▁▂▂▆▇▂▃▁▅▂▃▄▁▆▅▆▅▂▅▄▃▁▂▁▂▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 20.90 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂█▄▂▁▁██▂█▂▁▁▅▂▂▂▂█▂▃▁█▁█▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 93.38▕ swarm size (avg): 249.81 ⟲ | Apr 09 08:59 |
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| techrights-news | <h3>Privacy/Surveillance</h3> | Apr 09 09:02 |
| techrights-news | "According to more than 50 publicly available documents examined by Reuters, dozens of entities in China have over the past four years bought such software," https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/china-uses-ai-software-to-improve-its-surveillance-capabilities/90718476 | Apr 09 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | China uses AI software to improve its surveillance capabilities, CIO News, ET CIO | Apr 09 09:03 | |
| techrights-news | "Only weeks after the groundbreaking decision by the Austrian Data Protection Authority that the continuous use of Google Analytics" https://noyb.eu/en/update-cnil-decides-eu-us-data-transfer-google-analytics-illegal http://techrights.org/2020/09/09/fsfe-privacy-scandals/ | Apr 09 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | UPDATE: CNIL decides EU-US data transfer to Google Analytics illegal | Apr 09 09:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amandine ‘Cryptie’ Jambert, CNIL (Commission Nationale de l’Informatique et des Libertés) and FSFE Privacy Scandals | Techrights | Apr 09 09:04 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter will die faster now https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/2022/0405/Elon-Musk-became-Twitter-s-biggest-shareholder.-What-s-next | Apr 09 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk questions free speech on Twitter. Then, he reveals big stake. - CSMonitor.com | Apr 09 09:04 | |
| techrights-news | Pseudoscience https://futurism.com/the-byte/gun-shot-cameras-cops-doors | Apr 09 09:05 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: futurism.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://futurism.com/the-byte/gun-shot-cameras-cops-doors https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://futurism.com/the-byte/gun-shot-cameras-cops-doors | Apr 09 09:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Gun Shot Detection Cameras Alerting Cops to Slamming Doors Instead | Apr 09 09:05 | |
| techrights-news | MangoPi MQ Pro - A $20 RISC-V alternative to Raspberry Pi Zero W • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163530 | Apr 09 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MangoPi MQ Pro - A $20 RISC-V alternative to Raspberry Pi Zero W | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:05 | |
| techrights-news | This week in KDE: a feast for the eyes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163531 | Apr 09 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: a feast for the eyes | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:05 | |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Acrobat Reader • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163532 | Apr 09 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Acrobat Reader | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:05 | |
| techrights-news | 10 Best Indie RPG Games for Linux in 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163533 | Apr 09 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Indie RPG Games for Linux in 2022 | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:06 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163534 | Apr 09 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:06 | |
| techrights-news | Firefox 99 Brings These Two Changes for Linux Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163382#comment-33314 | Apr 09 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:07 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 08, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/irc-log-080422/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/09/irc-log-080422/ | Apr 09 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 08, 2022 | Techrights | Apr 09 09:08 | |
| techrights-news | #HowTo extract a .7z compressed file in Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163535 | Apr 09 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to extract a .7z compressed file in Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 09 09:08 | |
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| techrights-news | "Taherzadeh allegedly provided rent-free apartments, iPhones, surveillance systems" https://text.npr.org/1091426599 | Apr 09 09:36 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1091426599 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1091426599 | Apr 09 09:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | 2 men impersonated federal agents to get close to the Secret Service, FBI says | Apr 09 09:36 | |
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| techrights-news | Quality control gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/gigabyte-psu.gmi | Apr 09 09:47 |
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| techrights-news | "Applebaum: In a way, this is the dark side of globalization, namely that we all now live in the same information market." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-disinformation-social-media-propaganda/629497/ | Apr 09 09:55 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-disinformation-social-media-propaganda/629497/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-disinformation-social-media-propaganda/629497/ | Apr 09 09:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Anne Applebaum: Social Media Made Spreading Disinformation Easy - The Atlantic | Apr 09 09:55 | |
| techrights-news | "According to the report obtained by The Verge, the technical problem dates back from 2019 and began causing a noticeable surge in disinformation in October 2021" https://rsf.org/en/news/facebook-must-explain-how-feed-bug-made-disinformation-more-visible | Apr 09 09:55 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: rsf.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rsf.org/en/news/facebook-must-explain-how-feed-bug-made-disinformation-more-visible https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://rsf.org/en/news/facebook-must-explain-how-feed-bug-made-disinformation-more-visible | Apr 09 09:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Facebook must explain how Feed bug made disinformation more visible | RSF | Apr 09 09:55 | |
| techrights-news | "Russia’s last remaining independent media outlets in the country were forced into closure or exile and much of the foreign press corps" https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/08/west-russia-digital-iron-curtain-media/ | Apr 09 09:58 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: foreignpolicy.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/08/west-russia-digital-iron-curtain-media/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/08/west-russia-digital-iron-curtain-media/ | Apr 09 09:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foreignpolicy.com | West Seeks to Pierce Russia's Digital Iron Curtain | Apr 09 09:58 | |
| techrights-news | Belarussia https://www.voanews.com/a/jailed-belarusian-journalist-charged-with-treason-5-months-before-her-release/6521093.html | Apr 09 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Jailed Belarusian Journalist Charged With Treason 5 Months Before Her Release | Apr 09 10:06 | |
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| techrights-news | Recognizing what is officially retaliation and what is generally a toxic workplace is tricky, especially since they can overlap https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-retaliation-workplace | Apr 09 10:07 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: teenvogue.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-retaliation-workplace https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-retaliation-workplace | Apr 09 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teenvogue.com | What Is Retaliation in the Workplace? Here Are Your Rights and What to Know | Teen Vogue | Apr 09 10:07 | |
| techrights-news | "growing challenges of combatting disinformation" https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/08/global-report-on-journalism-released/ | Apr 09 10:18 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/08/global-report-on-journalism-released/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/08/global-report-on-journalism-released/ | Apr 09 10:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Global Report on the State of Journalism Released - Creative Commons | Apr 09 10:18 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter users have become UNPAID staff of Elon Musk. They should not persist. Get a life. Stop supporting a man who CENSORED all accounts bearing his name in Twitter. Quit Twitter. | Apr 09 10:21 |
| techrights-news | The Jackson confirmation, like OJ Simpson case, shows quite an accomplishment; they've made it all about race and this way marginalised any actual substance. | Apr 09 10:24 |
| techrights-news | "China was seen as the major enemy. Despite China’s helpful role in enabling corporate America to drive down labor’s wage rates by de-industrializing the U.S." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ | Apr 09 10:26 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ | Apr 09 10:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Dollar Devours the Euro - CounterPunch.org | Apr 09 10:26 | |
| techrights-news | gulagtube selective enforcement of policy https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/youtube-is-so-corrupt-it's-unreal:7 | Apr 09 10:34 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: odysee.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/youtube-is-so-corrupt-it's-unreal:7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/youtube-is-so-corrupt-it's-unreal:7 | Apr 09 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | YouTube Is So Corrupt It's Unreal | Apr 09 10:34 | |
| techrights-news | YouTube Is So Corrupt It’s Unreal - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/gdb4fTZ27BA ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 09 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | YouTube Is So Corrupt It's Unreal - Invidious | Apr 09 10:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Community guidelines GULAG" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gdb4fTZ27BA GULAG! :-) | Apr 09 10:37 |
| techrights-news | Say "no" to this; create a demand for properly owned things https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/you-will-subscribe-instead-of-own-and:0 | Apr 09 10:54 |
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| immibis | capitalism is incompatible with consumer ownership in the long run. | Apr 09 10:59 |
| immibis | producers have to make profits, which they can't do if consumers already own all the stuff they want | Apr 09 10:59 |
| kingoffrance | thats why there is inflation | Apr 09 11:00 |
| kingoffrance | to force "full employment" to make more useless "stuff" | Apr 09 11:00 |
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| kingoffrance | if you dont eat carrots you get the stick lol | Apr 09 11:09 |
| immibis | ? inflation isn't what forces employment | Apr 09 11:11 |
| immibis | interest rates and inflation are somehow linked to forcing employment | Apr 09 11:12 |
| immibis | but it's not as simple as "inflation forces employment" | Apr 09 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | kingoffrance: it is already getting harder to retire | Apr 09 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | pensions vs savings vs rares | Apr 09 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | *rates | Apr 09 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | after covid-19 maybe they want to lower retirement age? no way. | Apr 09 11:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | live, work, die | Apr 09 11:12 |
| immibis | retiring from savings are also incompatible with consumers owning everything. If consumers own everything they want, why would they give some of it to retired people? | Apr 09 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe sure the kettle breaks every couple of years | Apr 09 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | :-) | Apr 09 11:14 |
| immibis | retired people get paid by the same mechanisms elite capitalists do | Apr 09 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | speaking from experience | Apr 09 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the boiler, too | Apr 09 11:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's a higher premium | Apr 09 11:14 |
| kingoffrance | "its not as simple" sure, i just mean it is marketed as a "good thing" | Apr 09 11:14 |
| kingoffrance | and more fair | Apr 09 11:14 |
| kingoffrance | "velocity" | Apr 09 11:15 |
| kingoffrance | that was how it was sold in 1920 anyways | Apr 09 11:15 |
| immibis | it's something along the lines of: low interest rates make it easier for the ownership class to get money to pay for people to do work that may or may not be useful. The more available money is, the further down the barrel is scraped. | Apr 09 11:15 |
| immibis | when interest rates rise, everyone whose work was useful is fine because they made money by selling something useful; any jobs that were useless get scrapped | Apr 09 11:16 |
| immibis | and the owners behind those jobs don't get their money back | Apr 09 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't follow | Apr 09 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you maybe explain it another way? | Apr 09 11:16 |
| immibis | who | Apr 09 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | low interest for savers? | Apr 09 11:16 |
| immibis | low interest for borrowers means that people can borrow money to start businesses | Apr 09 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | ownership class meaning affluent people? | Apr 09 11:17 |
| immibis | some of those businesses do something useful and some do not | Apr 09 11:17 |
| immibis | if the business does something useful, it makes its money back by the time interest rates rise and it has to repay its loans | Apr 09 11:17 |
| immibis | the lower interest rates are, the longer a business doesn't have to make money | Apr 09 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I get it now | Apr 09 11:17 |
| immibis | ownership class = people who make money by owning things. In our capitalist economy, they are basically in charge of deciding which people do what. | Apr 09 11:18 |
| techrights-news | = | Apr 09 11:18 |
| techrights-news | iophk: "lots of FUD about source code and copyright in the second half" https://odysee.com/missouri-sb1086-agricultural-right-to:38ca26e0aa38cce942132ff91f067dfedc3ea55f | Apr 09 11:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Missouri SB1086 Agricultural Right to Repair bill testimony | Apr 09 11:19 | |
| immibis | don't be fooled into thinking everyone is equal: we effectively have a two-tier society with nobility on top and serfs on the bottom. Sure, there's a lot more mobility and fuzziness than when the system was formalized... but it's still there, mostly | Apr 09 11:20 |
| techrights-news | This is the end, my friend? https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/04/07/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-press-freedom/ | Apr 09 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | The Beginning of the End For Press Freedom – neritam | Apr 09 11:20 | |
| kingoffrance | serfs had the right to build a hovel and work the land :) | Apr 09 11:20 |
| immibis | kingoffrance: in exchange for giving a big part of their output to the lord, right? | Apr 09 11:21 |
| immibis | we call that "rent" | Apr 09 11:21 |
| kingoffrance | yes, i believe so. lord would even find them a partner...or they could purchase their way out lol | Apr 09 11:21 |
| immibis | purchasing their way out is called "buying a house" | Apr 09 11:21 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, arranged marriages about money | Apr 09 11:21 |
| immibis | it's the same system, we just fooled ourselves into thinking it's ethical now | Apr 09 11:21 |
| kingoffrance | the lord just wanted his cut is all | Apr 09 11:22 |
| immibis | people still marry for money, it's just not their parents who tell them to | Apr 09 11:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it results in misery and divorce | Apr 09 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is, | Apr 09 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know, | Apr 09 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | good for the owenrship class | Apr 09 11:24 |
| immibis | and temporary freedom | Apr 09 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | two of each | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | two homes | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | two lawn mowers | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | etc. | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | they love births | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it means more consumers | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but marriages lower spendings sometimes | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | so then the home "splits" | Apr 09 11:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | more to sell | Apr 09 11:25 |
| immibis | births is currently something they are failing at. which is not too terrible since we exceeded earth's carrying capacity | Apr 09 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't worry | Apr 09 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | throw the old clunker | Apr 09 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | buy a "green" car | Apr 09 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's made of trees! | Apr 09 11:26 |
| immibis | you see lots of right-wingers (i.e. owning class suckups) complaining about low birth rate | Apr 09 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | actually, no, taking down trees is bad | Apr 09 11:26 |
| techrights-news | "For the roots of our contemporary attitudes toward travel we must go back to the eighteenth century, to the golden age of the Grand Tour" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/travelers-sour-and-sentimental-3/ | Apr 09 11:29 |
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| techrights-news | Pandemics https://therevelator.org/best-practices-confront-pandemics/" | Apr 09 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therevelator.org | Best Practices to Confront Pandemics at the Source • The Revelator | Apr 09 11:30 | |
| techrights-news | "But, those breakdowns are not happening where people live. Therefore, other than scientists, who sees cascading ice sheets, crumbling permafrost, tens of thousands of Alaskan and Siberian thermokarst lakes bubbling methane, Greenland’s Helheim glacier cascading into the sea" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-great-barrier-reef-on-life-support/ | Apr 09 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Great Barrier Reef on Life Support - CounterPunch.org | Apr 09 11:34 | |
| kingoffrance | "you see lots of right-wingers (i.e. owning class suckups) complaining about low birth rate" yes, i never understood why that is a problem. did people forget how to reproduce? is that technology lost? no. | Apr 09 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is pushed to them by media | Apr 09 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it appeals to race card | Apr 09 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | "those other people reproduce faster" | Apr 09 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like the "great replacement" FUD | Apr 09 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | never bothered norway or sweden that china has a population like 300 times bigger | Apr 09 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | sweden grew with immigration | Apr 09 11:37 |
| immibis | kingoffrance: they think it's a bad thing because of "racial replacement" | Apr 09 11:37 |
| immibis | the real problem is that the economy stops people who want to reproduce from reproducing, contributing to misery | Apr 09 11:38 |
| immibis | but instead of looking for actual problems, it's somehow always the jews' fault, or black people | Apr 09 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | more so women afaik | Apr 09 11:38 |
| techrights-news | It's not SMART https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-to-escape-the-smartphone-duopoly-of-apple-google-with-sailfish-os/ | Apr 09 11:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR | immibis: some people dread living without a "phone" ^ | Apr 09 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | or without a "HI!" phone | Apr 09 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the strongest form of protest or rejection of "the system" is to not give a shit and not submit to it | Apr 09 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | their definition of "success" is not beneficial to you | Apr 09 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to the system's perpetrators/beneficiaries | Apr 09 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | when you stop giving a shit they have almost no power over you | Apr 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Poor people have a lot of kids because they're usually not smart enough to know or care how that will effect them. | Apr 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | And they don't learn the lesson the first time, and keep going. | Apr 09 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 09 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | And because the welfare state hides the fact that it really costs over a million and a half dollars to raise a criminal who picks up a gun. | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | you over-simplify it | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | with tropes | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | eating healthy is hard | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's more expensive | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | having sex without getting pregnant, esp. in poor countries, is not easy | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | abortions notwithstanding | Apr 09 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Do you know what a criminal trial costs so that Jimmy In-and-Out can clog up the courts and prisons later? | Apr 09 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Those aren't cheap. The trials or the prisons. | Apr 09 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you are blaming poor people for their poverty | Apr 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of it is their fault. | Apr 09 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | since you're gay you don't have this problem | Apr 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | If they'd get off her and plan their future better, they could just buy a fucking car instead of financing a 1995 at a pay here lot for 30% interest. | Apr 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Then complaining that their life is all going wrong for some strange reason. | Apr 09 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | the system does it to them | Apr 09 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reinforces it | Apr 09 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | more so in the US | Apr 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | O RLY!? | Apr 09 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it's a cruel system | Apr 09 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even basic health needs covered | Apr 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | The system forces them to fuck and sign up for welfare? | Apr 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Do the send the police in to enforce that by law? | Apr 09 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, you too signed up for it | Apr 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't have the money, don't have the kids. | Apr 09 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the poor poor-shamer | Apr 09 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | who shames people for crimes | Apr 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | Don't have the damned kids. | Apr 09 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | having got arrested himself | Apr 09 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and who files for bankruptcy | Apr 09 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid paying about 100k dollars in debt | Apr 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | More than that. | Apr 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | But, here's the thing. | Apr 09 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... | Apr 09 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | I knew that it was possible to right the ship if I filed then and there. | Apr 09 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Before Mandy started earning a bunch of money and the trustee says "Well, you have something now, so I'm taking that.". | Apr 09 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | If I filed a few months later, then no. They would have taken something for the bill collectors from somewhere. | Apr 09 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: telex has been very busy lately | Apr 09 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | in English too | Apr 09 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | you recommended the site | Apr 09 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | escapees of the Orban-stolen portal | Apr 09 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | inde.hu? | Apr 09 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | *index | Apr 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | I could also just stay judgment proof. | Apr 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that difficult to tie up your creditors until doomsday even without filing bankruptcy. | Apr 09 11:49 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: should only wealthy people reproduce? | Apr 09 11:49 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: how much does it cost to raise a productive member of society? Negative cost, right? | Apr 09 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | The government should quit subsidizing it. It's undesirable. | Apr 09 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | fore the "superior genes"? :-) | Apr 09 11:49 |
| kingoffrance | +1 believe that was roughly the correct usage of doomsday | Apr 09 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | It causes pollution and unemployment. | Apr 09 11:49 |
| immibis | in my experience, people like DaemonFC typically do want eugenics with extra steps | Apr 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Moreover, if people had fewer kids, wages would go up. | Apr 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Without a million people waiting for your job where you came from, employers couldn't threaten it. | Apr 09 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 09 11:50 |
| immibis | I have seen birth rates described as a supply-and-demand problem, yes. Should people be created only when there is a demand for them? | Apr 09 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the production is elsewhere | Apr 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Which is why they like the status quo. | Apr 09 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | already | Apr 09 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:26] <techrights-news> "China was seen as the major enemy. Despite China’s helpful role in enabling corporate America to drive down labor’s wage rates by de-industrializing the U.S." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ | Apr 09 11:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Dollar Devours the Euro - CounterPunch.org | Apr 09 11:50 | |
| immibis | Is there a demand for DaemonFC ? | Apr 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | They just tell the politicians to keep doing what they're doing. | Apr 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | They can make the have littles pay taxes so the have nots can produce a surplus of people. | Apr 09 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the eugenics system envisioned by euhenicists would eliminate ryan | Apr 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Then it drives down the wages they have to pay. | Apr 09 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "are you employed? no. | Apr 09 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "are you gay? yes" | Apr 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> the eugenics system envisioned by euhenicists would eliminate ryan | Apr 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Then I wouldn't be here to notice it, would I? | Apr 09 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | "thank you. you are the weakest link, goodbye" | Apr 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | So it's a moot point. | Apr 09 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not arguing for some Nazi-style murder camps. | Apr 09 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying that, going forward, we need reforms. | Apr 09 11:52 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: you seem to be wanting to control who is born and who is not born | Apr 09 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Reforms fade in over years and don't involve murdering people who are already here because of someone else's fault. | Apr 09 11:52 |
| immibis | preventing certain people from being born is still eugenics and/or genocide | Apr 09 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's hardly my fault what my parents did. Instead of finishing their job they decided to split up and go to war with each other using the courts and try playing "You owe me child support for a boob job!", "OH YEAH!? Well, I'm canceling the health insurance on the kids! Have fun with that mess!". | Apr 09 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | "Your honor, we want him in contempt!" "OH YEAH!? I WANT HER IN CONTEMPT!" | Apr 09 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: ethnic cleansing | Apr 09 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | genocide involves a killing | Apr 09 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | ethnics cleansing is relocation and depopulation | Apr 09 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | There shouldn't just be an asset test to have a license to have kids, there should be a psychiatric test, a criminal background check, and quite a few other things, including a blood screening for high risk disease traits. | Apr 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, like, right now it's legal for a guy who was convicted of fucking kids to have kids. | Apr 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone here agree that should happen? | Apr 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | Show of hands? | Apr 09 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | Where does anyone see a guy with armed robbery and sex offender list going if he has kids? | Apr 09 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Somewhere good? Show of hands? | Apr 09 11:57 |
| techrights-news | Electricity cannot be derived from nothing though https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/08/gas-prices-are-highso-electrify | Apr 09 11:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Gas Prices Are High...So Electrify | Bruce Mirken | Apr 09 11:57 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: by legal you mean it was not banned | Apr 09 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | laws do not say what's allowed | Apr 09 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but what is not allowed | Apr 09 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | you suggest banning many more things | Apr 09 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | The Big Tent parties do not represent me. Neither one of them are proposing giving serious sex offenders the electric chair. | Apr 09 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | Certainly not in Illinois. | Apr 09 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many of the things you do are candidates for banning | Apr 09 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | If it was up to me, anyone on there with a victim under 13 would get the electric bleachers. | Apr 09 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's good you are not a politician | Apr 09 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | No, politicians want votes from criminals. | Apr 09 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | The party that doesn't want felons voting is the Republican Party because they know it'll be 80% Democrats. | Apr 09 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats get 80% from people with armed robbery and fucking kids. | Apr 09 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, this isn't about tech anymore | Apr 09 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants them voting? The Democrats! Who is soft on them? The Democrats! | Apr 09 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and your views are on the further right, not even conservative | Apr 09 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe take it to #techpol | Apr 09 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | where you can take to another bigot | Apr 09 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *talk | Apr 09 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | So you think Rick Jones should be at his mom's house in Arizona and not on a watch list? | Apr 09 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Is that justice? | Apr 09 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you just spew out Trumpist lis | Apr 09 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *lies | Apr 09 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Not a day in prison. | Apr 09 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | insinuating Democrats are the "criminals' party" | Apr 09 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | take it to another channel | Apr 09 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | you ruin this one | Apr 09 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | If the Democrats lose the Governor's office in Illinois somehow they had it coming. | Apr 09 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | They've lurched things too far to the left for the state's voters and that's one of the offices they can't rig like Orban did in Hungary. | Apr 09 12:03 |
| techrights-news | COVID aspects ignored or overlooked by MSM https://www.projectcensored.org/homeless-students-further-marginalized-by-covid-19/ https://www.projectcensored.org/global-displacement-of-covid-orphans-the-pandemics-hidden-consequence/ | Apr 09 12:03 |
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| techrights-news | surveillance advertising https://www.projectcensored.org/major-media-outlets-lobby-against-regulation-of-surveillance-advertising/ | Apr 09 12:03 |
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| DaemonFC | Most people living here have no choice at all in who represents them. The districts were so rigged by the Democrats that over 80% won't even have an opposing candidate filing to run. | Apr 09 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | The "Democratic" party. | Apr 09 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | ----> #techpol | Apr 09 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | This is what Stallman would have you believe is a red state problem. | Apr 09 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | A state that has lost its legitimacy and deserves to have its laws ignored because people have no choice in who writes them. | Apr 09 12:05 |
| techrights-news | "Nearly every rumor about NSO Group has been proven true, despite plenty of early denials by the (oh, I guess we’ll be nice…) “embattled” malware" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/nso-confirms-it-gave-israeli-police-access-to-malware-to-spy-on-israelis/ | Apr 09 12:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSO Confirms It Gave Israeli Police Access To Malware To Spy On Israelis | Techdirt | Apr 09 12:05 | |
| DaemonFC | If you handed map making to a computer program and told it just to respect city and county borders in making the map and to respect communities with similar interests and that everything had to be compact and contiguous, the Democrats would lose a minimum of 1/5th of their seats in the state House. | Apr 09 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | So what they do is they look at how people vote and then they draw all of these "Goofy kicking Donald Duck" and "Homer Simpson" shaped districts that have nothing in common. | Apr 09 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | Even within the counties, right, there's room to have a computer program draw the most unfair districts possible to push out every member for the opposing party and it can be unanimously Democrat, or close to it. | Apr 09 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | That's what they've done. I go to vote, and there's usually a ballot full of no choices at all. | Apr 09 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | If you even mark something you're saying you're okay with this. | Apr 09 12:10 |
| activelow | the idea, secret individual elections were the equivalent of democracy, this was considered "19th century liberalism" and weak, by Carl Schmitt; just cought up reading a little | Apr 09 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | This is like playing on Cheat Mode so there's no possibility that you MIGHT lose. | Apr 09 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | I don't play games on cheat mode because they're fucking boring. | Apr 09 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | The fun comes from the possibility that you might lose. | Apr 09 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them started having cheat modes as either a development tool just to make sure the levels worked or changing the binary at runtime to disregard hitscans and break ammo counters and stuff. | Apr 09 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | So, the fact that they had an industry selling games and an industry selling Game Genie systems tells you something. It's the self-esteem movement. | Apr 09 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone's really good at something when there's no way to lose. Imagine that. | Apr 09 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | People don't thrive in environments with no challenges. | Apr 09 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | They stagnate. They become stupid. They settle for less. | Apr 09 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | Then once people are stupid and stagnant and they get away with that, they pass it along in shitty parenting. | Apr 09 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | Most people simply aren't going to be good parents, and many of those people won't even do the bare minimum in all tasks that are required of them. | Apr 09 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | So instead of perpetuating vicious cycles due to some sense of wanting to call yourself a liberal, why not reform the system and say this is not good. | Apr 09 12:16 |
| activelow | reform? how? | Apr 09 12:16 |
| *activelow hesitates to cite some more of his recent findings | Apr 09 12:17 | |
| DaemonFC | My parents weren't poor, so they wouldn't fail by that measure, but if the state investigated them and went rooting through my dad's porn collection and the fact that he wouldn't even give my mother an allowance out of her own money, they would have seen enough to know things weren't right in that house. | Apr 09 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | If they audited their tax returns, they would have known that they weren't honest people. They were willing to commit perjury to further tax evasion. | Apr 09 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, kids are always punished for what their parents do. | Apr 09 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | So giving bad people the privilege of having kids just punishes the kids. The parents won't give a shit because the state does nothing except give them money for doing it. | Apr 09 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't even call this eugenics, just more like common sense. | Apr 09 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR acts like I'm some kind of Nazi that would even exclude myself from my own rules. | Apr 09 12:21 |
| activelow | psychological tests, at best confirm a burgeouse facade, compliance with government testing | Apr 09 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that my parents had the right to have kids came from a government that was way too liberal, and it should never have been allowed. | Apr 09 12:22 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't think people should show up with guns and say "You must be this tall to go on living.". Figuratively speaking. That would be the Nazi platform. The first thing the Nazis did was kill anyone that they thought would be more liability than asset and call it a "mercy". | Apr 09 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't ask any of those people if they wanted to die. They didn't even care about or try to make it painless. | Apr 09 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, our system goes to the other extreme. It won't allow people to die if they want too, if they're in a lot of pain and their life is going very badly. | Apr 09 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | If you say it, you'll get committed. Even if you're 103 with end stage cancer. | Apr 09 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | *to | Apr 09 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> psychological tests, at best confirm a burgeouse facade, compliance with government testing | Apr 09 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | There are people who have obvious psychological problems. But in many cases it's another form of social control. Just less harsh than the prison system. | Apr 09 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | I don't agree with hate crime laws because they create political prisoners. That's another form of social control. | Apr 09 12:27 |
| techrights-news | "Cops lie." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/bar-security-camera-exposes-off-duty-officers-lies-about-their-unprovoked-assault-of-another-bar-patron/ | Apr 09 12:27 |
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| techrights-news | TSA’s “threat assessment” https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/04/08/amtrak-gave-train-reservations-to-the-tsa-for-a-profiling-test/ | Apr 09 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papersplease.org | Amtrak gave train reservations to the TSA for a profiling test – Papers, Please! | Apr 09 12:28 | |
| DaemonFC | They're just something that gets tossed in out of some sort of petty spite from "society" that has chosen to elevate some people above the rest due to a list of things. | Apr 09 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, you killed him. Here's 50 years. But he happened to be gay, you didn't know that, but here's another 20 because you're obviously a Trump voter." | Apr 09 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | The only people who support hate crimes laws are the people who are elevated above the rest of society by them somehow. | Apr 09 12:30 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-notices-took-down-19276-github-projects-last-year-220408/ | Apr 09 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DMCA Notices Took Down 19,276 GitHub Projects Last year * TorrentFreak | Apr 09 12:30 | |
| techrights-news | "Major Hollywood studios and Netflix have asked the European Commission for assistance in their global anti-piracy fight" https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-asks-eu-for-iptv-torrents-piracy-support-services-crackdown-220408/ | Apr 09 12:30 |
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| activelow | DaemonFC: once hate crime laws are necessary, they are probably useless | Apr 09 12:31 |
| WanderleiN | putins piracy support already paid out for the mpa | Apr 09 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | They just put more pressure on people to plea bargain to a shitty deal to make the hate crime enhancement go away. Then liberals say plea bargaining is cruel. | Apr 09 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | So the prosecutors are incentivized to find reasons why you hated a person during the commission of a crime, even if you didn't. Makes the prosecutors and police have an easy day at the office. | Apr 09 12:33 |
| techrights-news | "We know that readers are familiar with the global chip shortage and its effects on product availability." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/08/its-almost-a-new-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-but-not-quite/ | Apr 09 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It’s Almost A New Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4. But Not Quite | Hackaday | Apr 09 12:33 | |
| DaemonFC | Then when a black guy kills a gay man, what happens? | Apr 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't a hate crime. You don't charge black people with hate crime. | Apr 09 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | So, then there's even more double standards. | Apr 09 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's positively Orwellian. | Apr 09 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | People willfully misinterpret what I say to attack me. I'm getting used to it. | Apr 09 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't say Matthew Garrett shouldn't own a bike and have somewhere to ride it. | Apr 09 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | I said it shouldn't be on the street with cars where he can complain if someone doors him while he's not looking. | Apr 09 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | It should be on a path off to the side somewhere, where cars don't go. | Apr 09 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | But you take "bikes shouldn't be on the road because it creates hazards for everyone" and you say, "Oh he hates bicycles, the Earth, and wants pollution!". | Apr 09 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | Most American cities are big enough to build a bike path away from the road, cheaply. | Apr 09 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | Why isn't it happening? | Apr 09 12:37 |
| activelow | because it isn't possible for cheap in most cities | Apr 09 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | They want people to feel like they'll definitely be killed at some point if they bike on the road, and they're right! | Apr 09 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | They probably will be! | Apr 09 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | And it'll be some Mexican that panics that they'll get caught by ICE and speeds off if it happens where I live, most of the time. | Apr 09 12:38 |
| WanderleiN | DaemonFC are you chat bot? | Apr 09 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | No. | Apr 09 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | <activelow> because it isn't possible for cheap in most cities | Apr 09 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | It is. For what they charge in taxes in San Francisco, Matthew Garrett should be mad if they can't figure this out. | Apr 09 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Crooked politicians always figure out a way to jack up taxes and give you nothing. | Apr 09 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Every time you ask what they're doing with the taxes they already take from you, they switch to saying they just need more and don't worry with what they're spending the money they have on. | Apr 09 12:44 |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft GitHub the King of DMCA Censorship (Removing Free Software) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/ | Apr 09 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub the King of DMCA Censorship (Removing Free Software) | Techrights | Apr 09 12:59 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK9Y-a1-6JU | Apr 09 13:05 |
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| DaemonFC | The fact that it was designed before liberals in California set fuel economy standards. | Apr 09 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | Like the Ford Vulcan and Modular V8. | Apr 09 13:05 |
| techrights-news | Twitter is s dying platform. Now it's just storytelling to keep investors from fleeing https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/checking-in-on-twitters-attempt-to-move-to-protocols-instead-of-platforms/ | Apr 09 13:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Checking In On Twitter’s Attempt To Move To Protocols Instead Of Platforms | Techdirt | Apr 09 13:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Some (mainly Democrats) are trying to push for companies to remove more content. Some (mainly Republicans) are pushing companies to stop removing certain kinds of content" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/state-legislators-are-demanding-websites-moderate-less-and-moderate-more-federal-law-prohibits-both/ | Apr 09 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-State Legislators Are Demanding Websites Moderate Less AND Moderate More; Federal Law Prohibits Both | Techdirt | Apr 09 13:06 | |
| DaemonFC | The 3800 V6 gets plenty of MPG on the highway. | Apr 09 13:06 |
| techrights-news | What a free country... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/08/1100-banned-books-across-26-states-report-shows-shocking-censorship | Apr 09 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 1,100+ Banned Books Across 26 States: Report Shows 'Shocking' Censorship | Apr 09 13:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | The guy talks about the Stealership service department, schestowitz-TR | Apr 09 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | Telling the guy he's got a huge oil leak. So he takes it to his usual mechanic and it's not leaking anywhere. | Apr 09 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dealers do this ALL THE TIME. You want the most crooked repair shop, it's probably not a Car-X or a Meineke. | Apr 09 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably the dealer. | Apr 09 13:09 |
| techrights-news | Notice the very high acceptance ratio; Microsoft loves “open source” like it loves the OSI — in its back pocket and inside the bin http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/ | Apr 09 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | They don't actually make good margins on sales, so they start padding repair bills and making up work that doesn't even need to be done. | Apr 09 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | I had a Ford dealer tell me my whole suspension looked awful on the Crown Victoria and it would cost me thousands to repair and that I needed a new car. | Apr 09 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | So I drove it over to the shop and got it on the lift and looked at EVERYTHING on the suspension. | Apr 09 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | No trouble at all except for two front ball joints that had gone dry, and cost me $150 total to fix. | Apr 09 13:10 |
| techrights-news | "As an industry, we're still having the same problems that we used to have in the 80's. Agile has been around for 20 years now, but why isn't agile itself agile? It hasn't changed in 20 years. Many companies use agile ad something tacked on like cardboard spoilers on a bad car." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2019-07-28-grows-notes.gmi | Apr 09 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | That was Southworth Ford in Marion, Indiana that told me the whole suspension was bad when I came in with an oil change coupon. | Apr 09 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then Pace Chevrolet in Huntington, Indiana told someone I know that they needed $3,000 worth of work, so they paid for it, and then when they had it in another shop, the mechanic there told him the original parts were still on the car, which the dealership claimed to have replaced. | Apr 09 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | Dealership service is the worst and they are using proprietary software now to enforce a monopoly so you can't go anywhere else even if you want to. | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | WIth the 2008 Buick, I can keep going to Car-X. | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of the parts on it are the same exact fit as on the 2003 Impala. | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | But if I go to the dealer, they want $500 an hour. Why? | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Because if you have a 2022 Buick, you have to go to the dealer. | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Even after the warranty is over, because of the software. | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | So $150 an hour to go to Car-X or $500 an hour for the dealer. | Apr 09 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Then you pray to God the dealer isn't ripping you off and billing you for things they don't even do. | Apr 09 13:15 |
| techrights-news | "For years, we’ve noted how telecom and media giants have been trying to force “big tech” to give them huge sums of money for no reason." ttps://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/streaming-providers-tell-fcc-that-taxing-streaming-tv-would-be-dumb/ | Apr 09 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Then they're always bragging you only get "factory trained" technicians at the dealer. The factory might be training a 25 year old mechanic to work on their newer models, but not on things from the 80s and 90s. | Apr 09 13:16 |
| techrights-news | "Firewalls. You know, boring old IT stuff." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/watchguard-plays-the-ostrich-patches-exploit-without-informing-customers | Apr 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WatchGuard Plays The Ostrich, Patches Exploit Without Informing Customers | Techdirt | Apr 09 13:16 | |
| techrights-news | Taming Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-workers-have-filed-to-unionize-200-stores | Apr 09 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Starbucks Workers Have Filed to Unionize 200 Stores | Apr 09 13:17 | |
| DaemonFC | For some reason, they still leave Walmart alone. | Apr 09 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Almost like they have a deal or something. | Apr 09 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody has tried to organize a Walmart store since Walmart closed the entire store down the last time. | Apr 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Walmart lost money then | Apr 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | then do it again | Apr 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and again | Apr 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Walmart might realise it's better to reach some compromise | Apr 09 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Sam Walton said he'd shut down every store and go out of business before he allowed a union in. | Apr 09 13:20 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, It's almost like a cult. | Apr 09 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | All of the management style of Sam Walton is still taught to all managers there today. | Apr 09 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | If you go into a Chinese Walmart, there's a huge Sam Walton staring at you. | Apr 09 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | He's been dead for 30 years. | Apr 09 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't embalm him like Lenin, but I mean.... | Apr 09 13:22 |
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| Ariadne | its okay, they preserved his ford f-150 truck, and have it on display at the walmart museum | Apr 09 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Apr 09 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | I actually like the GM engines better in one way. | Apr 09 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | If a coil pack goes bad, it is RIGHT THERE and all you have to do is unscrew it and buy one for like $30 and put it back on. | Apr 09 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually right there and you don't even have to fumble to get to it. | Apr 09 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, I thought about just keeping the Impala around as sort of a spare car for a while after I get the Buick. | Apr 09 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the electrical glitch that happens maybe once or twice a year for a few seconds, it's not really doing anything wrong. | Apr 09 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | It has 281,000 miles on it right now. | Apr 09 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | I asked mom why she got rid of that red 1968 Buick with the V8 and she said my dad wouldn't let her have any of her own money so she couldn't even afford to get the license plates renewed. | Apr 09 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, All this old stuff runs for damned near forever if you just keep it serviced. | Apr 09 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | You'll absolutely never see that again. | Apr 09 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | Newer machines are trash. | Apr 09 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | That mechanic is right. The engines GM replaced the 3800 V6 with are trash trash trash. | Apr 09 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's sounds like there's a spun bearing in there rattling around. | Apr 09 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | It only has 140,000 miles on it! | Apr 09 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's half of the 2003's and the 2003 is purring like a kitten. | Apr 09 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason GM could have for the absolute travesty that are the 3.6 and 3.5 V6 engines are that they're so unreliable that you'll be back to buy a new car, because apparently a lot of people like her get burned over and over and never learn a damned thing. | Apr 09 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Like they're being cheated and they should just find the latest model year that still worked okay and drive that. | Apr 09 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost never a major part of the 3800 V6 that needs attention, especially the later ones (Series III) with the improved connecting rods. | Apr 09 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's always some stupid peripheral part like a sensor or EGR valve or a gasket maybe. | Apr 09 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's almost never the engine. Just technically the engine. | Apr 09 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | Aluminum, which is in the newer engines, doesn't belong anywhere near an engine. | Apr 09 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's an engine designed by politicians in California that's all aluminum. | Apr 09 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a man's engine. | Apr 09 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's not an engine that says "I'm an engine! Give me your best shot! I can take it!". | Apr 09 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's some wimpy liberal engine. | Apr 09 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | It saves you like a few tanks of gas over the life of the car, which is 1/3rd of what an engine made of steel and cast iron would do. | Apr 09 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Fucking California Air Resource Board. | Apr 09 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Trump was absolutely right in getting rid of CARB's waiver. People are now heading for a disaster where they can't even afford a ride to work and back because of California and Biden. | Apr 09 13:46 |
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| DaemonFC | Another nice thing you find out about with tiny cars is that when the mechanic has to disassemble half the piece of shit to replace an alternator or something, you pay him for another 2-3 hours. | Apr 09 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | So you never save enough money on a new car for any improvement in gas mileage. | Apr 09 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | You just pay in unreliability and repair costs, and then way too soon, another car. | Apr 09 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, It's not just Apple. | Apr 09 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's a disposable society where "men" can't even change an air filter or a spark plug. | Apr 09 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | Spark plugs aren't even difficult anymore usually. Many times, you don't even need a gap tool anymore. You just remove the old ones, put the new ones in. | Apr 09 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, I did learn something though. | Apr 09 13:52 |
| WanderleiN | why would you want to do that? | Apr 09 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | Don't put Iridium spark plugs in the 3800 V6 if you want your old coil packs to work much longer. | Apr 09 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | Those forums I was reading are right. I did it, and it finished off the original coil packs. I had to replace them all. | Apr 09 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | But it was only like $90 to do that. | Apr 09 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | <WanderleiN> why would you want to do that? | Apr 09 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | Do some jobs yourself? | Apr 09 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | Because when you see a shop saying $100 to change an engine air filter, and you don't want to pay $100 to change an engine air filter when you can do it in 5 minutes with a $8 filter and a screwdriver. | Apr 09 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | I had to replace the cabin air filter on the 2003 as well, and that's not difficult. It had never been done though. | Apr 09 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | I found a bunch of seed pods and twigs from trees, three old cigarette butts, and a mound of dirt on top of the old one. I had to shove a vacuum cleaner into it before I took it out so I wouldn't drop any onto the blower motor. | Apr 09 13:56 |
| WanderleiN | platinum spark plugs aree the best | Apr 09 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, double platinums. | Apr 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Victoria liked them. | Apr 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | Iridiums last longer, but they put too much resistance on the ignition system. | Apr 09 13:57 |
| WanderleiN | who? | Apr 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | You can risk frying the ignition control module and the coil packs. | Apr 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | They do run so hot that it's hard to foul them up with carbon deposits though. | Apr 09 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | So they're marketed as "self-cleaning". | Apr 09 13:58 |
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| DaemonFC | Honestly, I'm not sure whether it's better to just leave those alone, because the benefit is you'll never have to change your spark plugs again, but the downside is that they can cause failure that travels up the ignition system. | Apr 09 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's cheaper to just plan on replacing the platinum plugs once more during the life of the car than it is to replace an ignition control module and all of your coil packs. | Apr 09 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | Manufacturers are putting iridium plugs on as OE, because they want it to last 100,000 trouble-free miles or so and then start acting up after you sell it. | Apr 09 14:00 |
| WanderleiN | they shoot down a mig Fulcrum | Apr 09 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | If the car came with Platinum plugs, I'd leave it alone until the odometer reaches about 125,000 miles. | Apr 09 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you have a reason, like one fouls up, then you replace all of them. | Apr 09 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Unless it has a turbocharger. | Apr 09 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Then you want to do it every 50,000 miles or so or else it's going to start losing performance and pinging. | Apr 09 14:03 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163536 | Apr 09 14:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Turbos are so much more trouble than they're worth. | Apr 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I doubt anyone reports on what the failure rate of a Hyndai THETA II Turbo is. | Apr 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | Guessing it's not pretty. | Apr 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | *Hyundai | Apr 09 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | "We took one of the worst engines ever designed and put a German turbocharger in it. Let's see what happens!" | Apr 09 14:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Stupid wifi. | Apr 09 14:14 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: Do you always want to give the electric chair to people you don't like? | Apr 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | WanderleiN, As long as you keep an eye on the 3800 V6, you shouldn't ever have any serious trouble with it until it's well past its prime. | Apr 09 14:15 |
| immibis | you know, a black person asked me today if I had weed (apparently I just look like that). should he have been given the electric chair? | Apr 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | You need to watch for leaking intake gaskets, oil drippage through the pan gasket, that sort of thing. | Apr 09 14:15 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: I think preventing people of a certain race from reproducing is also considered genocide | Apr 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | As long as you watch your fluid levels, and don't just ask someone at the shop to keep an eye on it, you should be okay. | Apr 09 14:16 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: You really don't trust the state, at all, and yet you think the state should determine who's allowed to reproduce? | Apr 09 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | When the intake gaskets start leaking coolant, it's usually a drip leak. As long as you keep a spare bottle of 50/50 in the trunk you can just top it off and drive back home and get into the shop that week. | Apr 09 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> DaemonFC: You really don't trust the state, at all, and yet you think the state should determine who's allowed to reproduce? | Apr 09 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | If the state set higher standards, eventually better people would be running the state too. | Apr 09 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Because they'd have to impress people that don't depend on it, which would be a fundamental shift from vote buying. | Apr 09 14:17 |
| immibis | hate crime is when you kill a gay man BECAUSE he's a gay man, not just when you kill a man who happens to be gay | Apr 09 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Wrong | Apr 09 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | You'll get some lazy cops and lazy prosecutors who want a high conviction rate. | Apr 09 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | They'll find out he happened to be gay and add it to the charges. | Apr 09 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | And then they'll scare you into signing a potentially false confession. | Apr 09 14:18 |
| immibis | what the absolute fuck is that thing you said about wimpy liberal engines containing aluminium | Apr 09 14:18 |
| immibis | and "men" | Apr 09 14:19 |
| immibis | the masculinity thing is far-right | Apr 09 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | They're just really weak engines that can't stand up to basic wear and tear, and they're designed by wimpy California liberals who want the stupid thing to get 1 mpg more gas mileage. | Apr 09 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | And take away 2/3rds of the service life of the engine to get it. | Apr 09 14:19 |
| immibis | aluminium is also cheaper than steel, isn't it? | Apr 09 14:20 |
| immibis | oh no, it's not | Apr 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | We switched from aluminum to cast iron in a factory I worked at. | Apr 09 14:20 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: You want to begin fixing this problem by having the state prevent undesirables from reproducing | Apr 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Because we were having too many parts come back under warranty for the aluminum warping under heat. | Apr 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | And so we put the cast iron parts in and our return rate fell to less than 1/10th of what it was with the aluminum. | Apr 09 14:21 |
| kingoffrance | enlightenment was the people are the state. so noone is doing that anymore | Apr 09 14:21 |
| immibis | maybe don't make parts out of aluminium that need to withstand heat without warping. making the parts out of aluminium that don't need to do that, however, is based. | Apr 09 14:21 |
| immibis | material selection is a thing | Apr 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the first thing to go to shit was the engine's block heads. | Apr 09 14:21 |
| immibis | some parts need to resist heat, other parts don't but are useful if lighter-weight | Apr 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | They did aluminum heads and a cast iron block. | Apr 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | And then head gasket failure almost always meant warped block heads too. | Apr 09 14:22 |
| immibis | that's basically just what apple did with iphones | Apr 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | Which meant rebuilding the top of the engine when the gasket failed and the overheat happened. | Apr 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | Then they replaced the entire block with aluminum. | Apr 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | Now if it overheats, what you usually do is buy a used engine and hope it doesn't happen again to that one. | Apr 09 14:22 |
| WanderleiN | if it over heats move to alaska | Apr 09 14:23 |
| immibis | build your own instead of complaining. it's a free market. convert your car to electric | Apr 09 14:23 |
| immibis | lead-acid electric lul | Apr 09 14:23 |
| immibis | then you can have all the weight you want | Apr 09 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I used to run the 1996 Crown Victoria on 0w20 motor oil. | Apr 09 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | But Ford's engineers went back and said you could do it on anything as old as the 1992 model year for that engine. | Apr 09 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | But it would destroy the old 5 liter V8 on the 1991 and older. | Apr 09 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | 0w20 is not appropriate for the Buick 3800 V6. | Apr 09 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | I run it on 0w30 and it works fine. | Apr 09 14:24 |
| immibis | you should try running it on gasoline | Apr 09 14:25 |
| immibis | i hear it works better | Apr 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | I switch between Mobil 1 and Pennzoil Platinum 0w30 depending on which is on sale. | Apr 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I mean, as far as oil goes. There's an entire site dedicated to which oil for what engine. | Apr 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | GM never said it was okay to use 0w30 in this engine, but it's fine. | Apr 09 14:26 |
| techrights-news | "In its default configuration, KDE’s Gitlab CI will only consider compilation or license validation failures a failure of the CI job, which follows what the previous Jenkins-based system did. Unit test failures would be shown in the results of a job, but would not be considered fatal and stop integration." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/04/09/kde-ci-required-unit-tests.html | Apr 09 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | Requiring passing unit tests on KDE's CI | Apr 09 14:26 | |
| DaemonFC | I've not only never had a problem with it, I sent some to the lab to compare with how 5w30 looked after being used. | Apr 09 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | There's actually less engine wear using the 0w30, even when you don't change it as often. | Apr 09 14:26 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: have you considered driving a human-sized quadcopter instead of a car? | Apr 09 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | Old people think you need to change your oil all the time. | Apr 09 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | If you use a proper synthetic oil and a good filter, and you don't drive the car more than 7,500 miles per year, you should only need one oil change a year or so. | Apr 09 14:27 |
| immibis | isn't once a year basically all the time? | Apr 09 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | People are wasting billions and billions of dollars on excessive oil changes. | Apr 09 14:28 |
| immibis | how often do most people change it? | Apr 09 14:28 |
| immibis | if not once a year or so? | Apr 09 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not to mention what happens to all of that used motor oil. It goes to a recycling facility, but....that's not totally efficient and consumes energy to recycle it. | Apr 09 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, many people still go to shops that say every 3 months or 3,000 miles. | Apr 09 14:29 |
| techrights-news | "Notepadqq is an amazing text editor. It is promoted as an editor designed by developers, for developers. Notepadqq is free to use and open-source text editor that has support for almost 100 languages." https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-install-notepadqq-on-linux/ | Apr 09 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Install NotepadQQ On Linux [Updated] | Itsubuntu.com | Apr 09 14:29 | |
| DaemonFC | And that's actually outdated, from when cars ran on conventional oil, and even then most manuals said that was the severe schedule for towing things or using them as police or taxi cars. | Apr 09 14:29 |
| WanderleiN | they runned the a360 using biodiesel | Apr 09 14:29 |
| techrights-news | You didn't expect "drone" and "open" on the FSF's site. Updated today: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/OpenDroneMap | Apr 09 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | OpenDroneMap - Free Software Directory | Apr 09 14:29 | |
| immibis | NZ has this system where everyone brings their car in twice a year for whatever happens to need to be done at that time. but that's communism | Apr 09 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | So like, if you pay a shop to do an oil change, a full synthetic change should not cost more than $45-50. Most have coupons. | Apr 09 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | Just do it annually. | Apr 09 14:30 |
| WanderleiN | https://newatlas.com/aircraft/airbus-a380-biofuel-first-flight/ | Apr 09 14:30 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: newatlas.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/aircraft/airbus-a380-biofuel-first-flight/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newatlas.com/aircraft/airbus-a380-biofuel-first-flight/ | Apr 09 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newatlas.com | Airbus flies A380 passenger jet on 100% biofuel for the first time | Apr 09 14:30 | |
| DaemonFC | If you do conventional and change it every 3 months, you're going to spend about $140 a year on oil changes. | Apr 09 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | So you're basically handing another $100 to the shop and your car is no better off for it. | Apr 09 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you do it for 20 years, you've wasted over $2,000. | Apr 09 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | People don't see how small things add up and then they ARE poor. | Apr 09 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR totally doesn't get that. | Apr 09 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Like, why does mom make half again as much money as me and my spouse and why is she always broke? | Apr 09 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | When she lives in a cheaper part of the country, to boot! | Apr 09 14:32 |
| techrights-news | Wine 7.6 out now with more PE conversion work, Mono updated http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163522#comment-33315 | Apr 09 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 7.6 is now available. | Tux Machines | Apr 09 14:33 | |
| MinceR | 09 150644 < DaemonFC> "We took one of the worst engines ever designed and put a German turbocharger in it. Let's see what happens!" | Apr 09 14:33 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 09 14:33 |
| MinceR | 09 124822 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: telex has been very busy lately | Apr 09 14:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, they've been covering a war and a pretend "election" | Apr 09 14:34 |
| MinceR | 09 124844 < schestowitz-TR> inde.hu? | Apr 09 14:34 |
| MinceR | yes, index.hu | Apr 09 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was looking at what it would cost to supercharge the engine in the Buick if I buy it. | Apr 09 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | Too much, but it would be a fun car. | Apr 09 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | $1,700 for parts and about $600-700 in labor. | Apr 09 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | It would go from 200 horsepower to 260 horsepower. | Apr 09 14:35 |
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| techrights-news | "We are back with our usual monthly update! Boiling Steam looks at the latest data dumps from ProtonDB to give you a quick list of new games that work (pretty much?) perfectly with Proton since March 2022 – all of them work out of the box or well enough with tweaks..." https://boilingsteam.com/7-new-games-with-proton-april-2022/ | Apr 09 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Top 7 New Games to Play on Linux with Proton – April 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam | Apr 09 14:36 | |
| DaemonFC | The system runs off exhaust gas pressure and uses it to force more clean air in through the intake. | Apr 09 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | But it needs a lot of new parts and software to manage that. | Apr 09 14:36 |
| WanderleiN | why does apt stalls after a repo fails to connect and doesn't continue to next repo? | Apr 09 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | I've never had that happen. | Apr 09 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | Although I have noticed that both APT and DNF are less of a piece of shit lately. | Apr 09 14:37 |
| techrights-news | Godfall Ultimate Edition seems to run well on GNU/Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/godfall-ultimate-edition-seems-to-run-well-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 09 14:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Godfall Ultimate Edition seems to run well on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 09 14:38 | |
| DaemonFC | DNF got libsolv and automatically removes orphaned packages. | Apr 09 14:38 |
| WanderleiN | xanmod seems to be down | Apr 09 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | There used to be an experimental YUM plug-in to handle this. | Apr 09 14:38 |
| WanderleiN | and apt doesnt move on to update the debian packages | Apr 09 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | Probably Fedora 36 performs better than Debian 11 for a lot of reasons. | Apr 09 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is ahead on some things like LTO by default. | Apr 09 14:39 |
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| DaemonFC | So, I watched the movie "Dog" yesterday. | Apr 09 14:40 |
| WanderleiN | https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/deb.xanmod.org.html | Apr 09 14:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.isitdownrightnow.com | Deb.xanmod.org - Is Deb Down Right Now? | Apr 09 14:41 | |
| techrights-news | Raspberry Pi OS update beefs up security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33316 | Apr 09 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines | Apr 09 14:41 | |
| DaemonFC | I laughed when his truck got broken into by the homeless guy and they sniffed him out using their dogs and found all his stuff in a tent under a boardwalk in San Francisco and he goes "Oh great. Some crack addict is probably snorting my migraine pills.". | Apr 09 14:41 |
| WanderleiN | so why is ti down for me? | Apr 09 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | Because someone stole my migraine pills off my doorstep at the motel before I could answer the door. | Apr 09 14:42 |
| techrights-news | "You signed up for two jobs if you decided to write a book. Writing and marketing. And marketing is likely even more vital if you want people to find and read your work." https://nts.strzibny.name/one-year-of-sales/ | Apr 09 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | One year of sales | Apr 09 14:44 | |
| WanderleiN | xanmod must have put me on a block list | Apr 09 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | My first ex lived in a trailer park (yeah). His family was just kind of poor, but nothing worse than that. But they had a neighbor who was some total degenerate. He was a hemophiliac and he stole my ex's mom's medication out of the mail and snorted it and it gave him a nosebleed and he had the ambulance out there. It was just constant. | Apr 09 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | Klonopin. That's what he snorted after stealing it from her. | Apr 09 14:46 |
| WanderleiN | so thats why you became a cop? | Apr 09 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a cop. | Apr 09 14:47 |
| WanderleiN | but you wiched | Apr 09 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, that is exactly what a cop would say. | Apr 09 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | Also, if they don't have a warrant, they're like vampires. | Apr 09 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | They can't come in unless you let them in. | Apr 09 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | (Or open the door and let them "see something". Or they hear someone screaming.) | Apr 09 14:48 |
| WanderleiN | so they invented facebook | Apr 09 14:48 |
| techrights-news | "Positive rating from 20,944 (at time of writing) user reviews. Always nice to see such a title running well on GNU/Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ | Apr 09 14:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Duck Game gets a patch for Proton, now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 09 14:49 | |
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| WanderleiN | instagram tik rok | Apr 09 14:50 |
| WanderleiN | that way people just show them | Apr 09 14:50 |
| techrights-news | [PATCHv2] drm/amdgpu: disable ASPM on Intel AlderLake based systems - Richard Gong ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220408190502.4103670-1-richard.gong@amd.com/ ䷉ Source: amd | Apr 09 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCHv2] drm/amdgpu: disable ASPM on Intel AlderLake based systems - Richard Gong | Apr 09 14:50 | |
| DaemonFC | <WanderleiN> that way people just show them | Apr 09 14:51 |
| techrights-news | SystemRescue 9.02 is out http://www.system-rescue.org/ https://www.system-rescue.org/Changes-x86/ | Apr 09 14:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.system-rescue.org | SystemRescue - System Rescue Homepage | Apr 09 14:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.system-rescue.org | SystemRescue - ChangeLog | Apr 09 14:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, there was a Florida firefighter in the news for exorting a 14 year old for nude videos. | Apr 09 14:52 |
| WanderleiN | i bet she looked 22 | Apr 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | Then when the cops questioned him, he admitted the entire thing, then later tried to say he was never even on Instagram or Snapchat. | Apr 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | Or whatever it is. | Apr 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | The one where some idiots leave that feature on that tells you where they are all the time. | Apr 09 14:52 |
| WanderleiN | but can the feature really be turned off? | Apr 09 14:54 |
| techrights-news | <li><h5><a href=""></a></h5> | Apr 09 14:54 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2203275 | Apr 09 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/MwkBRkK.jpg created on 2022-03-27 03:34:01.443365 | Apr 09 14:56 | |
| DaemonFC | <WanderleiN> but can the feature really be turned off? | Apr 09 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | The one that shows it to the public, yeah. | Apr 09 14:58 |
| techrights-news | Don’t use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163537 | Apr 09 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions | Tux Machines | Apr 09 14:58 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Proton, Godfall Ultimate Edition, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163538 | Apr 09 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Proton, Godfall Ultimate Edition, and More | Tux Machines | Apr 09 14:58 | |
| WanderleiN | "Imgur is temporarily over capacity. Please try again later." | Apr 09 14:58 |
| WanderleiN | MinceR broke imgur | Apr 09 15:00 |
| MinceR | i didn't even use imgur today | Apr 09 15:02 |
| MinceR | also, it's unreliable anyway | Apr 09 15:02 |
| MinceR | and the ircz.de page serves the image without relying on imgur | Apr 09 15:02 |
| WanderleiN | ircz.de is a russian supporters site | Apr 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | "To most people, social acceptance is one of the most important driving forces of their lives. As such, social media discussion sites are mainly dominated by people who follow hype and trends. They cannot and do not think independently, and they are afraid of going against the current. If you use your brain and don't follow the hive mind, you will definitely not be liked. | Apr 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | People who have nothing better to do than to spend most of their time on these places generally feel bad about themselves. They spend their time at these places in order to feel better, which they do by bullying, downvoting, upvoting, commenting, etc. It's actually one of the very few ways a hollow person can feel good about himself/herself. | Apr 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | Voting systems on social media don't work. While downvotes should ideally be used to silence the completely irrelevant and useless comments, it is instead used to remove dissenting views and views that goes against the popular opinion. This leads to a form of radicalization where people are only ever exposed to the popular opinions because people with conflicting views eventually stop wasting their time on these platforms." | Apr 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | "Basically, what you're witnessing is what you would see if you study a group of chimpanzees in a zoo." | Apr 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | Or as I like to call it, the Code of Conduct. | Apr 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ is very active on Twitter and Reddit. Hrrrm. | Apr 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | "If you use your brain and don't follow the hive mind, you will definitely not be liked." | Apr 09 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | That's always been true, even before Social Control Media. | Apr 09 15:06 |
| WanderleiN | DaemonFC how can you copy paste so much text with out geting kicked for spamming? | Apr 09 15:06 |
| techrights-news | Showing off 'gifts' from Microsoft while insisting on putting a Free project in proprietary hosting of a company which commits crimes, including mass bribery https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/09/more-steel/ | Apr 09 15:06 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: haxx.se | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/09/more-steel/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/09/more-steel/ | Apr 09 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More steel | daniel.haxx.se | Apr 09 15:06 | |
| DaemonFC | Chimpanzees at the zoo throwing poop at each other for mating rights with the female is essentially what most humans boil down to. | Apr 09 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | I like this guy. This is like something I'd write. | Apr 09 15:07 |
| kingoffrance | he's imaging there is some "law" besides popularity. religious nutcase </sarcasm> | Apr 09 15:08 |
| kingoffrance | *imagining | Apr 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Then schestowitz-TR is mad when I agree with MinceR that most humans are worse than net neutral and we'd be better off without covering the Earth in 7 layers of them. | Apr 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Which is what MinceR has said repeatedly. | Apr 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | The politicians don't mind having an army of dumbed down voters who all depend on 47 different types of welfare and 90% of that was entirely their own fault. | Apr 09 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | The more hoops they can make you jump through to beg for your own tax money back, the better! | Apr 09 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | But people who go further and have kids and actually cost taxpayers something more than what they themselves paid in are by far the most corrosive part of the equation. | Apr 09 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:07] <DaemonFC> Chimpanzees at the zoo throwing poop at each other for mating rights with the female is essentially what most humans boil down to. | Apr 09 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know that guy !! | Apr 09 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | And then the female is loving every minute of it because she's already got backup plans for when she gets tired of the winner of the poop throwing contest. | Apr 09 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | See, just like humans. | Apr 09 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | You add some F-350 Super Duty trucks and some dirty book stores on top of the poop throwing, you have humans. | Apr 09 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe a machine gun and a missile launcher here and there. | Apr 09 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | CNN putting half a screen of people killing each other in Ukraine and another half a screen for Applebee's commercials with people dancing around because of chain restaurant steaks and Miller Lite. | Apr 09 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | SickNN | Apr 09 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | But it all boils down to the poop throwing and mating rights in the end. | Apr 09 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | Now you know how I see people and society in general. | Apr 09 15:17 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: you are gay and yet you dislike minorities? | Apr 09 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | All minorities like each other. Like Jews and Muslims. | Apr 09 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | The Muslims are a minority, and they're famous for liking gays. | Apr 09 15:18 |
| immibis | do you think muslims should dislike gays? | Apr 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Which means that, logically, I have to reciprocate for the milk of human kindness flowing from the Muslim world towards gay people. | Apr 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> do you think muslims should dislike gays? | Apr 09 15:19 |
| immibis | if you don't think muslims should dislike gays then why do you think gays shold dislike muslims, what's the asymmetry there? | Apr 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that anyone is born knowing how to hate. The religion spreads through child abuse. | Apr 09 15:19 |
| immibis | and if you do think muslims should dislike gays then why is that? | Apr 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | That one especially. | Apr 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | At least mainstream Christianity doesn't specifically condone fucking 12 year olds after you cut off part of their genitals and calling them your "wives". | Apr 09 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Muslims are known for that too. They're sick in the head. Worse than the worst Catholic priests. | Apr 09 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | And we can't say that because while we have all of these "Death to America" mosques with the child fucking, it's not WOKE to say what they are doing in there. | Apr 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | But everyone knows it. And in their own country they just murder gay people and laugh about it and it's the state doing it too or turning a blind eye to it. | Apr 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Bill Maher got a lot of hate from the WOKE crowd. | Apr 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | People like those California nutcases genuinely don't want to "get" it, how "tolerating" Muslims isn't compatible with a free country where people can be gay. | Apr 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | There is no Muslim country where people have basic human rights, and most of them don't have even the trappings of a basic democracy or elections. | Apr 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> and if you do think muslims should dislike gays then why is that? | Apr 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think they should stop being Muslims and go get their head examined. | Apr 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say that about people in any religion though. | Apr 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | When people are religious then they get an entitlement mentality that goes along with it. | Apr 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | How fucking arrogant are you anyway, that you think you're better than someone and that only your religion is right just becuase your two dumbass parents bumped uglies and that's all you ever got to hear about it and so that's what you are now. | Apr 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not even "Your religion." most likely, unless you're one of the few converts. | Apr 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was IMPOSED on you before you were able to think. | Apr 09 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | And Dawkins says it, not quite like that, in The God Delusion. | Apr 09 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | That it's sad that people accept it when other people say "That Muslim child." or "That Christian child.". | Apr 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | You're a brand new mind. You don't have a bullshit filter yet. It hasn't even occurred to you that your parents messed up a lot of things, don't plan to have you, and are going to die someday. | Apr 09 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | So most of the time, right, the kids believe anything their parents say. Even if it's crazy! | Apr 09 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | When I was 4 years old, I went over to my grandmother's house (my dad's mom) and then I came out and asked mom why there was a monster guarding the outlets and why grandma said don't flush the toilet because it's broken and why she said there was a mean dog out in the back yard so don't go there. | Apr 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | And she was making all of that up. | Apr 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | She didn't want to explain that you could get hurt very badly by electricity or that she just didn't want to pay the water bill or keep an eye on you if you went to play in the back yard. | Apr 09 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | So, you know, then it started to dawn on me, once mom let it slip, that if your grandparents make things up because they just don't want to deal with you, maybe your parents do too. | Apr 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | And I always felt particularly "wrong" in church. | Apr 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Like the bible, after that, was an entire book of "There's a monster guarding the electrical outlets, the toilet is broken, and there's a vicious dog in the yard.". | Apr 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | By the time I was about 7 I was chronically depressed. I realized that whether it was that day, 10 years, or 90 years away, there'd be an end to me and that there'd be nothing more, and so what's the point? | Apr 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | And I think it was 6 or 7, anyway. They started taking me to a child psychiatrist at that point. | Apr 09 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | They diagnosed the inability to focus and the lack of interest in anything as "Attention Deficit Disorder". | Apr 09 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | And there was just constant turmoil in the house. Parents fighting all the time, dad calling mom "fucking bitch" the horrible stench of dad's cigarettes. We'd get pets and then they'd do something mom didn't like and so they "went to live on a farm". She didn't want to walk one of them and let it out without a leash and it got hit and killed by a car. | Apr 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | So that really helped the depression. | Apr 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | Getting to bury my dead dog in the back yard when I was 8 because mom didn't want to walk it while I was away. | Apr 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | So, very young age, thanks to some godawful parenting, "There is no God.". | Apr 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | You know, adults are supposed to protect children from dealing with trauma, and my parents didn't give a shit. | Apr 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Here's a shovel. Go bury your dog." | Apr 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | "We'll get divorced in 6 years and blame you for that too!" | Apr 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | So, what schestowitz-TR doesn't get I guess, and I think he doesn't have kids either.... | Apr 09 15:39 |
| MinceR | 09 160443 < WanderleiN> ircz.de is a russian supporters site | Apr 09 15:39 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Apr 09 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Is that I'd fucking kill myself before I did as horrible a job as my parents did. Plus, I barely have enough money to keep this house going. | Apr 09 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | I have pets for a good long time, you know. | Apr 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | And mom asks me how I do it. | Apr 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | And she gets mad when I tell her. | Apr 09 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | I say, "Well, I feed them good food, and if they develop a behavior, instead of dumping them out in a field somewhere I understand the psychological reason for the behavior and redirect them. | Apr 09 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | That's where spanking a child comes in, btw. | Apr 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | You know, people do it too much because it's easier than understanding where the behavior comes from. | Apr 09 15:42 |
| MinceR | probably also enjoyable to many people | Apr 09 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't a child who learned anything from being hit except to say in my head "Jesus Christ that woman is a bitch, can you believe that shit? How many more years do I have to live here?". | Apr 09 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | When you grow up, if you hit someone there's criminal charges. | Apr 09 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you hit your spouse there's domestic abuse felonies. | Apr 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | But it's okay to just beat the fuck out of your kids because they annoyed you. | Apr 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | Beat em senseless. As long as there's no bruises, cuts, or broken bones when they go to school, the state says it's fine. | Apr 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | Remember! Belt to the ass or slap in the face! | Apr 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | Spitting on them works too! | Apr 09 15:46 |
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| DaemonFC | If they threaten to report you, say "That's fine because if the state investigates it you'll never be welcome back in this house again.". | Apr 09 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | Then they're afraid because who knows where they'll sleep. | Apr 09 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't abuse at all! | Apr 09 15:47 |
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| techrights-news | Blender Eevee is Magic - Even a Stopped Clock • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163539 | Apr 09 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender Eevee is Magic - Even a Stopped Clock | Tux Machines | Apr 09 15:52 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 09 15:52 | |
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| libertybox | psydruid: soundb | Apr 09 15:58 |
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| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTKetNX9j8 | Apr 09 15:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidio.xamh.de | What feeding a Maine Coon Cat is like! - Invidious | Apr 09 15:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | I have a Maine Coon. | Apr 09 16:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Also my black and white cat mated with a Maine Coon and produced five "Maine Cows". | Apr 09 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Well, four Maine Cows anyway. The fifth one looks like a Maine Coon. | Apr 09 16:06 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | The rest of them have a blend of Maine Coon and their mom's personality. | Apr 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | The long fur and fluffyness of a Maine Coon, only they're black and white. | Apr 09 16:07 |
| MinceR | what's their mom's personality like? | Apr 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | Very mature personality. She has her own "cat language" and she sits there and talks to you in it. | Apr 09 16:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 09 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | She does not like to be picked up, and she usually won't sleep on the bed. Last night she slept on the foot of the bed though, which I thought was weird. | Apr 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | My Maine Coon is more interested in the windows, and what's going on outside. | Apr 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | And she sleeps on the bed all the time. | Apr 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy doesn't like it but I tell him to just knock it off and let the cat sleep wherever she wants to. | Apr 09 16:10 |
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| DaemonFC | My black and white cat had "cat acne" and I recently got it to clear up finally. | Apr 09 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | With some antibiotics and switching her to steel food and water bowls. | Apr 09 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | The Maine Coon gets fur tangles. | Apr 09 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | I just cut them off when it happens, with the scissors. | Apr 09 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | She always has so much fur growing in that it doesn't make much difference, but if you let it go, it'll get bigger and bigger. | Apr 09 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | The time we spent at the motel, she got tangles really bad, and she wouldn't tolerate being groomed. | Apr 09 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually she had one on her butt so big that I had to cut the hair off almost to skin to get rid of it, but it all grew back in. | Apr 09 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | She just looked weird for a while. | Apr 09 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Now that she's not hiding from everyone under the bed all the time, if I feel a tangle, I just cut it off right away. | Apr 09 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Never thought I'd be glad to say this, but Comcast is coming today. | Apr 09 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Then I can call and cancel the T-Mobile. | Apr 09 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of people complain that the home internet pod doesn't work very well even in areas where their phone works fine. | Apr 09 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | That's what happened to me. | Apr 09 16:16 |
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| DaemonFC | My black and white cat is just happy to be here. Sometimes she just walks up and goes "Mwaaaah.... mwaaaah..... mwaaah" and that means "I would like you to pet me, and then I'll just sit here and guard you for a while.". | Apr 09 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | Then she has a "Mroooowow! Mrowwwwow!" when people are up and walking around that means "I'm just letting you know I'm down here so you won't trip over me. Have a nice day!". | Apr 09 16:21 |
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| MinceR | :3 | Apr 09 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's the occasional "MYYYYEAH!!!!", which means she's just in a good mood in general and up and about and saying hi on her way where she's going. Doesn't want you to pet her, just "Hi!". | Apr 09 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Then she throws herself on her side and plays with her toy. She likes to pretend it's a mouse that she just caught and bite at it. | Apr 09 16:24 |
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| DaemonFC | She's mildly amused by a laser pointer, sometimes, but not to the point she'll chase it around the house, usually. Mostly just swatting at it and then giving up. | Apr 09 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | She does not like catnip. | Apr 09 16:25 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software and Security Issues • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163541 | Apr 09 16:26 |
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| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Retro, and Sailfish OS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163543 | Apr 09 16:27 |
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| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163544 | Apr 09 16:27 |
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| DaemonFC | It occurred to me just how stupid people are because every time I go somewhere, I hear someone say something so incredibly dumb it defies belief. | Apr 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | There's a 9/11 memorial in Indianapolis which is made of two steel beams from one of the towers. | Apr 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | A teenager walks by and says "Isn't one of them still standing?". | Apr 09 16:36 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: "How fucking arrogant are you anyway, that you think you're better than someone and that only your religion is right just becuase your two dumbass parents bumped uglies and that's all you ever got to hear about it and so that's what you are now. " - isn't this how you feel about white people? | Apr 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | I go to NASA's Johnson Space Center, where they have the Apollo Mission Control center and everything. | Apr 09 16:37 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: so it's all parenting. How would implement these parenting rules you want? | Apr 09 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | They have pieces of Saturn V rockets on display. | Apr 09 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | One of the parents walks by and goes "Now you can say you touched something that was on the moon!". | Apr 09 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, they flew the entire rocket to the moon. That's how those worked. | Apr 09 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | The entire rocket. Then they brought the whole thing back again! Didn't even scratch the paint, you know? | Apr 09 16:38 |
| immibis | oh no! people in the process of learning things don't know everything yet! | Apr 09 16:39 |
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| DaemonFC | Oh come on, anyone who ever saw the movie Apollo 13 knows they didn't take the entire rocket to the moon. Herp derp. | Apr 09 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | It shows the entire launch sequence. | Apr 09 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | WanderleiN: "ircz.de is a russian supporters site" <- How does one check? | Apr 09 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtVpvzUF1Y | Apr 09 16:43 |
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| MinceR | XRevan86: i think he failed to realize what ircz.de does | Apr 09 16:44 |
| MinceR | (i.e. that it picks up links to images from various IRC channels and rehosts them) | Apr 09 16:45 |
| techrights-news | Duck Game gets a patch for Proton, now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 09 16:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Duck Game gets a patch for Proton, now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 09 16:46 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1lnwmQS52I | Apr 09 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=u1lnwmQS52I | Apr 09 16:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | The Launch | Apollo 13 | Screen Bites - Invidious | Apr 09 16:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Again, they just built better stuff back then. | Apr 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Even when they were only going to use something once, they thought big. | Apr 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody does that anymore. | Apr 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | NASA was pretty much finished by the time the Space Shuttle happened. | Apr 09 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | It was just a horrible system and it bled them dry and they were stuck using it for decades and couldn't afford to do anything else because of it, and it killed a lot of people. | Apr 09 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | There wasn't even much technology to salvage from it to be re-applied anywhere else. | Apr 09 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | A total money pit. | Apr 09 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | I hate machines that aren't simple. Absolutely hate them. | Apr 09 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | I keep going back to cars. People get absolutely no benefit at all from all of this modern technology. | Apr 09 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | It looks "futuristic", and then they buy it and they find out how awful it is. | Apr 09 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | It's expensive to service. There's serious malfunctions after a few years. | Apr 09 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | And they know that you know it, and they'll win either way. | Apr 09 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | Either the company sells you a service plan and makes money guaranteed, or you're back in there paying them retail price to fix it all the time, or you just give up and sell it and take a loss. | Apr 09 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | And with older bigger cars, without any really fancy computers and sensors, if it starts acting up, you just pop the hood and see what the problem is, unbolt the part, throw it into the garbage (or take it back for the core) and bolt a new part on. The car starts right back up. | Apr 09 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | So with the newer stuff, even if the technology or the manufacturing process gets you good gas mileage, incredibly good gas mileage, it's not worth it. | Apr 09 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | You are talking pennies on the dollar in savings vs. what it will cost to repair. | Apr 09 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | Even if gas goes up to $5 a gallon, you're better off with an older bigger car that's not that sophisticated. | Apr 09 16:56 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163545 | Apr 09 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 09 16:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/illinois-legislature-set-to-approve-tax-relief-on-final-day/ | Apr 09 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Illinois Legislature set to approve tax relief on final day | WGN-TV | Apr 09 17:19 | |
| DaemonFC | $50 checks to people making $400,000 a year. | Apr 09 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, that's as "working class" as it gets, right? | Apr 09 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's wose | Apr 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Worse | Apr 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | because rich people barely pay tax | Apr 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | those checks are funded by you | Apr 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's circular | Apr 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who pay more in tax are shouldering the rest | Apr 09 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Only the government could take $1,600 from a minimum wage Walmart employee that year, give him $50, and then brag that it gave him $50. | Apr 09 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | (That's just the state income tax, btw.) | Apr 09 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:45] <MinceR> (i.e. that it picks up links to images from various IRC channels and rehosts them) | Apr 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should drop the "Z"!! | Apr 09 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | By the time the state gets done taxing you, they tax 5% of your income before you see it, up to 10% when you spend the money, another 39 cents per gallon of gas along with the sales tax, licenses to drive your car, license plates for the car, stickers from the city to drive your car. | Apr 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | z is ze neu zwaztika | Apr 09 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's the federal government too. | Apr 09 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | They make you pay into a Socialized Insecurity system you may never live to see. | Apr 09 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | That's on top of THEIR income tax. | Apr 09 17:24 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: lol | Apr 09 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | And then they hide tariffs because the retailer pays those and then pretends it's "inflation". | Apr 09 17:25 |
| kingoffrance | DaemonFC, and some ppl want more "enlightenment" quite funny isnt it? | Apr 09 17:25 |
| MinceR | ircz is older than the terrorussian practice of using the z as a zwastika | Apr 09 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody knows where it came from. | Apr 09 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Then after the government steals 40% of your money, they also inflate the money, so anything you managed to save is worth 10% less every year. | Apr 09 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: zatz not gut | Apr 09 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, they spend the money blowing horrible bubbles that drive up the cost of everything from bread, to cars, to your rent. | Apr 09 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | So in the end you probably don't have much in savings and then they inflate away whatever you do have for an emergency. | Apr 09 17:26 |
| immibis | hot take: theft is taxation | Apr 09 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, taxation is theft. | Apr 09 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Inflation is theft by deception. | Apr 09 17:27 |
| immibis | No. Theft is taxation. | Apr 09 17:27 |
| kingoffrance | immibis is right, people are the state | Apr 09 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Theft and then giving it to someone else puts them in possession of stolen property. | Apr 09 17:27 |
| kingoffrance | thats enlightenment | Apr 09 17:27 |
| kingoffrance | immibis is 100% enlightened lol | Apr 09 17:27 |
| immibis | It's the price you pay for living in a society with a horribly designed system that puts so many people in positions where their best option is to steal. | Apr 09 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | So they should arrest the government and anyone it gives your money to. | Apr 09 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Problem solved! | Apr 09 17:27 |
| immibis | If you want to live in a society where people below you are fucked, them stealing from you is the price of that. | Apr 09 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | inflation is a tax | Apr 09 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you might say tax is legalised theft | Apr 09 17:28 |
| immibis | we do need to redesign the government financial system so it's clear who is paying for what | Apr 09 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's legal when the state does it. Like murder. | Apr 09 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | Cops murder people every day, nothing happens. | Apr 09 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't consider executions to be the same as murder. | Apr 09 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | People who were executed at least had a trial. | Apr 09 17:29 |
| immibis | (that surely won't happen until the people elect a government that represents them) | Apr 09 17:29 |
| MinceR | taxation is more like robbery | Apr 09 17:29 |
| MinceR | it's performed with threat of violence | Apr 09 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | For every person executed, the cops kill 1,000 more just by shooting them "because reasons". | Apr 09 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | None of them got a trial. | Apr 09 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Be mad about that, not about executing Jeffrey Dahmer. | Apr 09 17:29 |
| immibis | when the government properly represents the people, taxation is no problem. It's just the prices for solving various tragedies of the commons | Apr 09 17:30 |
| kingoffrance | "(that surely won't happen until the people elect a government that represents them)" now you're denying the enlightenment happened </mincer> | Apr 09 17:30 |
| MinceR | when has the government properly represented the people, ever? | Apr 09 17:30 |
| kingoffrance | when you said the enlightenment happeend | Apr 09 17:30 |
| immibis | every developed country seems to do a better job than the USA, although none is perfect | Apr 09 17:30 |
| MinceR | the enlightenment was not an election | Apr 09 17:30 |
| kingoffrance | what was it? | Apr 09 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | The focus on outlawing Capital Punishment is misguided. Nobody gets the death penalty in Illinois. The cops just shoot 6-7 people dead every day. | Apr 09 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | But nobody gets EXECUTED. | Apr 09 17:30 |
| kingoffrance | just another group of oppressors? | Apr 09 17:31 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Apr 09 17:31 |
| MinceR | an intellectual and philosophical movement | Apr 09 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, "Chicago Police - Obey and Survive". | Apr 09 17:31 |
| immibis | I guess people figured out how to ethically justify lordship by putting the word "land" in front of it | Apr 09 17:31 |
| MinceR | also, if the tax money the government wants to collect is in the exact amount and ratio the people want it to collect, why use taxation at all? just have people pay for what they want | Apr 09 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/woman-53-carjacked-at-red-light-in-loop/ | Apr 09 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | 53-year-old woman carjacked at red light in Loop | WGN-TV | Apr 09 17:32 | |
| immibis | MinceR: Tragedy of the commons. A proper role of a government is to deal with all-or-nothing problems | Apr 09 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR Voice: The carjacker just wanted their reparations! They're hardly even a real criminal! | Apr 09 17:33 |
| immibis | things like pollution require enforcement if the desired amount of pollution is not infinity | Apr 09 17:33 |
| MinceR | i suspect that it is actually impossible for a human government to do that | Apr 09 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | When you think about it, threatening to murder someone using an illegal handgun while stealing the only thing they own on this Earth isn't really a crime. | Apr 09 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | Is it? | Apr 09 17:33 |
| immibis | maybe every single person in the country wants less pollution, but it's also a capitalist economy and therefore the first person to unilaterally decrease their pollution output will just be hurting themselves for no benefit | Apr 09 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's just "redistributing the wealth". | Apr 09 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | How ironic that Obummer is putting his library in Jackson Park. | Apr 09 17:34 |
| MinceR | the last i've heard was that we have 3 years or so to greatly reduce our emissions to avert a catastrophe | Apr 09 17:34 |
| immibis | we have negative years | Apr 09 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Half the people going to see it will "spread the wealth around" with the muggings and carjackings. | Apr 09 17:34 |
| MinceR | i'm predicting that as usual, humanity isn't going to do jack shit about it in 3 years | Apr 09 17:34 |
| immibis | whoever told you 3 years was optimistic | Apr 09 17:34 |
| MinceR | i know | Apr 09 17:34 |
| immibis | maybe the hatred for russian nazis will help avert the climate change catastrophe. i'd give it a 10% probability | Apr 09 17:34 |
| MinceR | more likely that war and related stuff will drive even more pollution | Apr 09 17:35 |
| immibis | but what will be burned? wood? | Apr 09 17:35 |
| MinceR | yes, and coal | Apr 09 17:35 |
| MinceR | and extra resources will be used to prepare for more war | Apr 09 17:35 |
| MinceR | and ukrainian cities and people will be burned | Apr 09 17:35 |
| MinceR | and we might also end up with a thermonuclear war | Apr 09 17:36 |
| immibis | that will drive humans extinct, solving climate change | Apr 09 17:36 |
| MinceR | oh, also, not just wood and coal but also plastic | Apr 09 17:36 |
| immibis | plastic is made from oil | Apr 09 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is going to do anything. | Apr 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | California will cause a big economic mess for itself. | Apr 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | That's about it. | Apr 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck them.. | Apr 09 17:37 |
| kingoffrance | "an intellectual and philosophical movement" yes, which supposedly separated church and state. as all gov. are based on various philosophies | Apr 09 17:37 |
| kingoffrance | conway's law | Apr 09 17:38 |
| MinceR | people are going to do some stuff, some of which will be ineffectual and some of which will be counterproductive | Apr 09 17:38 |
| kingoffrance | and hence people claimed to be the state | Apr 09 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, think about it. If California decides to commit to this, it'll just make less incentive to buy an EV anywhere else while all of them suffer. | Apr 09 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | The gaoline prices there are already several dollars a gallon more than the national average. | Apr 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | But banning the sale of new gasoline cars after 2035 is just a pipe dream. | Apr 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be unworkable. | Apr 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | People will figure out ways to sabotage it. | Apr 09 17:39 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: they are already effectively banned by the fact prices ar ehigh | Apr 09 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Like buying them in other states and paying to have it registered somewhere else for a year before "importing it" into California and driving it there anyway. | Apr 09 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Good, the more harm California self-inflicts, the more it holds down prices here. | Apr 09 17:40 |
| immibis | DaemonFC is not very enlightened | Apr 09 17:40 |
| immibis | the reason you hate california is it has black people and homeless people, right? | Apr 09 17:41 |
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| DaemonFC | No, because it has so many stupid people. | Apr 09 17:57 |
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| DaemonFC | They think very highly of themselves because they don't realize how stupid they are. | Apr 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | A car designed by politicians isn't going to work out well for the people who end up having to drive it. | Apr 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Even the Soviet car industry wasn't as bad as what the Democrats are doing because at least some people in Russia could afford to buy one. | Apr 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Apr 09 17:59 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22032635 | Apr 09 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mggfzn1ciqo81.jpg created on 2022-03-26 17:39:15.763928 | Apr 09 18:00 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I think it's working. | Apr 09 18:01 |
| techrights-news | "Like announced in my previous post, I released mastersearch, "Searching the web from the CLI"." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/09/mastersearch-released/ | Apr 09 18:01 |
| techrights-news | The future of dimension.sh gemini://dimension.sh/~nikdoof/logs/2022/04/09/the-future-of-dimension/ | Apr 09 18:03 |
| techrights-news | tldr in gemtext gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-04-09_tldr_in_gemtext.gmi | Apr 09 18:03 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's yesterday's news but I still want to ask: why is Orban so stupid? | Apr 09 18:26 |
| MinceR | he was probably born that way | Apr 09 18:26 |
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| XRevan86 | What evidence does he need on the Bucha massacre? | Apr 09 18:26 |
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| MinceR | he doesn't care about evidence, he's a christian fundamentalist | Apr 09 18:27 |
| MinceR | and he worships putler | Apr 09 18:27 |
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| XRevan86 | One: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/08/massacre-in-bucha | Apr 09 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | Two: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation | Apr 09 18:27 |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: meduza.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/08/massacre-in-bucha https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/08/massacre-in-bucha | Apr 09 18:27 | |
| -altlink_a3f/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: meduza.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation | Apr 09 18:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Apr 09 18:27 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe he believes his own propaganda like Putin. | Apr 09 18:30 |
| MinceR | indeed he does | Apr 09 18:30 |
| techrights-news | 4 Best Free and Open Source Web Application Firewalls • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163546 | Apr 09 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source Web Application Firewalls | Tux Machines | Apr 09 18:33 | |
| techrights-news | 4 Best Free and Open Source Linux Flickr Tools • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163547 | Apr 09 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source Linux Flickr Tools | Tux Machines | Apr 09 18:33 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163548 | Apr 09 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 09 18:33 | |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp19zbiuKTk | Apr 09 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=zp19zbiuKTk | Apr 09 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.bp.mutahar.rocks | You will subscribe instead of own and you will like it! - Invidious | Apr 09 18:33 | |
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| techrights-news | Is gemini a read-only protocol? gemini://midnight.pub/posts/883 | Apr 09 18:41 |
| SomeH4x0r | no afaik | Apr 09 18:42 |
| SomeH4x0r | just like PHP/CGI exists for HTTP GET | Apr 09 18:42 |
| techrights-news | "It makes plenty of sense to work multiple days a week, throughout the whole day, if you're a farmer who has to respect the life cycles of his work animals, and doesn't have giant spotlights with which to light up his whole field as he tills." gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/re_throughts_on_work.gmi | Apr 09 18:43 |
| techrights-news | Alfa Network long range-low power Wifi HaloW AHPI7292S RPI HAT • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163549 | Apr 09 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alfa Network long range-low power Wifi HaloW AHPI7292S RPI HAT | Tux Machines | Apr 09 18:43 | |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft incites people to break the law with ProprietarySoftware https://sg.channelasia.tech/article/696820/github-copilot-available-visual-studio-2022/?fp=2&fpid=1 see http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/balabhadra-alex-graveley-and-tomboy/ | Apr 09 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sg.channelasia.tech | GitHub Copilot available for Visual Studio 2022 - Channel Asia | Apr 09 18:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part VIII — Mr. Graveley’s Long Career Serving Microsoft’s Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHub’s GPL Violations Machine) | Techrights | Apr 09 18:46 | |
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| bnchs | hello | Apr 09 18:55 |
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| immibis | <DaemonFC> Even the Soviet car industry wasn't as bad as what the Democrats are doing because at least some people in Russia could afford to buy one. | Apr 09 19:09 |
| immibis | wtf | Apr 09 19:09 |
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| MinceR | https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-try-to-bypass-a-bug-during-my-demo/ | Apr 09 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When I try to bypass a bug during my demo | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes | Apr 09 19:30 | |
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| bnchs__ | MinceR: i have never related to that | Apr 09 19:51 |
| bnchs__ | because i never do workarounds like microsoft style | Apr 09 19:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 09 19:52 |
| MinceR | working around a bug you'll fix in a later sprint for the sake of a demo isn't necessarily MICROS~1 style, though | Apr 09 19:52 |
| MinceR | it might be a natural consequence of scrum | Apr 09 19:53 |
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| DaemonFC | I sat down and helped my mom's friend from work set up a retirement account and told her exactly, step-by-step, how to go about taking the IRS for all they're worth on that. | Apr 09 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | And which investments to avoid right now and which to go for. | Apr 09 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Right now, I'm heavily leaning on bonds, not stocks. | Apr 09 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm buying the Buick on Monday. That was a NICE car. | Apr 09 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing wrong with it other than it may need a battery and a coolant flush. | Apr 09 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Body is in nearly perfect condition. | Apr 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | All of the accessories and switches work fine. | Apr 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | The TPMS light is on. The sensors are about $75 each, and so if I want to replace them all that's maybe like $300. | Apr 09 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | But TPMS isn't important. | Apr 09 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's one of those government things where it's like "Oh some dumbass may not notice his tire is flat or 25% underfilled! Put another sensor on it!". | Apr 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> <DaemonFC> Even the Soviet car industry wasn't as bad as what the Democrats are doing because at least some people in Russia could afford to buy one. | Apr 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> wtf | Apr 09 21:15 |
| MinceR | i don't mind having TPMS | Apr 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, Biden is doing a worse job than the Soviets. If a Soviet citizen couldn't get a car, at least it wasn't because some tree hugging douchebag in California wanted them all to cost $70,000 and up. | Apr 09 21:16 |
| MinceR | though i wouldn't mind CTIS either | Apr 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not worth $300 to put new sensors in, I'd say. | Apr 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | If the tire is flat, you'll know. | Apr 09 21:17 |
| MinceR | it's better not to wait until it goes flat | Apr 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | No, but that's usually the only time it would go off since I keep my tires inflated properly. | Apr 09 21:42 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/Z17VEP5.mp4 | Apr 09 21:43 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2017/03/10/buick-reboot/99042816/ | Apr 09 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.detroitnews.com | The Detroit News | Apr 09 22:24 | |
| DaemonFC | "stodgy sedans"..... | Apr 09 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | This is insane. | Apr 09 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | That thing I'm buying looks like an executive would roll up in it. | Apr 09 22:24 |
| bnchs__ | the detroit news | Apr 09 22:27 |
| bnchs__ | with no news article title | Apr 09 22:27 |
| bnchs__ | like FUCK YOU | Apr 09 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I got a family photo. | Apr 09 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | https://ibb.co/51dwQ6V | Apr 09 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ibb.co | PXL-20220409-183632837 — ImgBB | Apr 09 22:28 | |
| DaemonFC | The one I'm buying in front, and what I drive now behind it. | Apr 09 22:28 |
| SomeH4x0r | DaemonFC: please direct links | Apr 09 22:29 |
| SomeH4x0r | og:image | Apr 09 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://i.ibb.co/7SHL3XF/PXL-20220409-183632837.jpg | Apr 09 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | There we go. | Apr 09 22:30 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: Are people buying cars in America? | Apr 09 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. Always. | Apr 09 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have two of them now, at least for a while. | Apr 09 22:31 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: also that was exactly the reason Soviet citizens couldn't get cars. Some hammer and sickle toting douchebag in Moscow wanted there to be a years-long waiting list. | Apr 09 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'll give the Impala back to mom. I fixed up all the shit that was broken (that matters). | Apr 09 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | It drives almost like new and with 281,000 miles on it. | Apr 09 22:32 |
| MinceR | https://64.media.tumblr.com/4db0f52a1f00df44f3b9786f9afddff5/de8dc60539fa00ff-3a/s640x960/884be91c12954cf8ac3c75d9d9b6e17134237a20.png ( https://textsfromsuperheroes.com/post/680470960599597056/zombie ) | Apr 09 22:33 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, What do you think? | Apr 09 22:33 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 09 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | I ask myself one thing when I buy a car. One important thing. | Apr 09 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | What would General Hammond drive? | Apr 09 22:33 |
| immibis | "What will Democrat environmentalists think of this car?" | Apr 09 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | He had a really nice Mercury Grand Marquis in one episode of SG-1. | Apr 09 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> "What will Democrat environmentalists think of this car?" | Apr 09 22:34 |
| MinceR | meh | Apr 09 22:34 |
| MinceR | i'd rather drive a reliable car | Apr 09 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | I know that it will make liberals cry. | Apr 09 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, it's reliable. | Apr 09 22:34 |
| MinceR | i'd prefer a Land Cruiser with a V8 | Apr 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The US auto industry has produced four generally decent engines in the last 40 years. | Apr 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, and i'm not into gambling | Apr 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | The Ford Vulcan V6, the GM 60 degree V6 (the 3100 SFI model ended up producing 170 hp wand was hella fun in the Beretta), the Ford Modular V8, and the GM 3800 V6. | Apr 09 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | The 3800 V6 goes back to 1962. | Apr 09 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | *was | Apr 09 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, the 3800 V6 Series 3 is the best choice if you have a choice. | Apr 09 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | They decided to use the stronger connecting rods from the supercharged model even in the NA model. | Apr 09 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | So you get much better odds that a MAJOR internal part of the engine will work okay for a very long time. | Apr 09 22:38 |
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| DaemonFC | Don't buy a 4.6 liter Modular V8 from Ford unless it's a 2001 or newer. | Apr 09 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | To avoid those defective DuPont intakes that could fail. | Apr 09 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Buying the 3100 SFI V6 from GM, you should plan to replace the intake manifold gaskets and switch to different coolant. | Apr 09 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | So you don't want to pay a lot of money for the car even though it's a good engine other than that. | Apr 09 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://itstillruns.com/information-3100-sfi-v6-engine-7868958.html | Apr 09 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itstillruns.com | Information on a 3100 SFI V6 Engine | It Still Runs | Apr 09 22:42 | |
| DaemonFC | It's actually a surprisingly powerful engine for its size. It gets decent mileage in a car like a Beretta or Corsica, where it was the upgrade option from the underpowered Inline 4. | Apr 09 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The car was built around the idea that most people would pick the base engine so it had to be possible to drive it with an engine that put out a wimpy little 100 horsepower. | Apr 09 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | The 3100 V6 puts out 175 horsepower. | Apr 09 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | So the car really moves if you have that engine. | Apr 09 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Most American cars from the 80s, 90s, and 00s have bigger engines than the car itself really needs. | Apr 09 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Like, power to weight ratio. | Apr 09 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking for an older car and pulled up a 1978 Lincoln someone was selling with 38,000 miles on it. 7.5 liter V8. | Apr 09 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, you needed that back then because the engines just weren't very good. | Apr 09 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | It put out less power than the 3800 V6 did in the 2000s, and it used more than twice as much fuel in the process. | Apr 09 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Some software in a vehicle is probably a necessary evil, but we long since jumped the shark. | Apr 09 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Especially on how much it can do for fuel economy. | Apr 09 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're making "empty beer cans on wheels with a dinky engine" for, well........whoever responds to TV commercials with giant hamsters in them I guess. | Apr 09 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAryIF_ztQ | Apr 09 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=HcAryIF_ztQ | Apr 09 22:49 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Apr 09 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.namazso.eu | Here's Why Kias are Crap - Invidious | Apr 09 22:49 | |
| MinceR | i think i've seen that one already | Apr 09 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | "A car that's just idling should not be all over the place like that. | Apr 09 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, my Impala was recently. | Apr 09 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I had to put all new coils on, and an upstream O2 sensor. | Apr 09 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | It was messed up. Misfiring like crazy. | Apr 09 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | obvious plant (@obviousplant_): "Rando With Real Throbbing Action" | nitter | Apr 09 23:37 | |
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