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| schestowitz-TR | it would shock me if anywhere there was dumb enough to use the darn thing | May 11 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | 2662 59th Ave SW | May 11 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Seattle, WA 98116 | May 11 00:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | gay blackmail app: approved by Sir Fry | May 11 00:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | also approved by Fry: GNU | May 11 00:01 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR, they used the gays near you feature | May 11 00:01 |
| bnchs | sort of like a fucking radar | May 11 00:01 |
| bnchs | for gay people | May 11 00:01 |
| MinceR | gaydar | May 11 00:01 |
| MinceR | or the way islamists use it: slaydar | May 11 00:01 |
| bnchs | beep beep beep 113 gay people detected near 1 km | May 11 00:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Come get ma falafels" | May 11 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC | It's a duplex. | May 11 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see the KIA or the Ford. | May 11 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | shoebox accomodation | May 11 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome to singapore! | May 11 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can exit the shoebox to visit a nearby shopping mall | May 11 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, their shopping malls are all very expensive | May 11 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | you'd struggle to find anything worth buying, even on salke | May 11 00:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's always cheaper in the UK | May 11 00:05 |
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| techrights-news | Free Software or Openwashing Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164702 | May 11 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software or Openwashing Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 00:05 | |
| DaemonFC | There was a GEO Metro parked a couple blocks from his old apartment in Tacoma. | May 11 00:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he lost his job in the airport, he burns his money on rent now | May 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it's important to live close to Unvle Bill | May 11 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | He's too old for Uncle Bill. | May 11 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Uncle Bill thinks it's important to catch them young, so they can be properly educated. | May 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bad bad ..." | May 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Well, he's dead" | May 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "OK, let's talk about COVID now... I'm the expert" | May 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I bribed the Lancet, does it make me a researcher?" | May 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | (Bill never finished university) | May 11 00:08 |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR, you know what they say | May 11 00:09 |
| bnchs | in order to become an expert | May 11 00:09 |
| bnchs | you must give some money | May 11 00:09 |
| techrights-news | "...and I realized I had *essentially* abandonned this gemlog. Well, neglected it, anyways. My phlog really is my first love. It is mirrored on gemini as well." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20210725.gmi | May 11 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking at his mom's house in Texas. | May 11 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | She lives in one of those ticky tacky housing subdivisions. | May 11 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Her husband is a really weird guy. | May 11 00:10 |
| techrights-news | "My capsule is not dead; I've just been very busy! 2021 is finally over, and truth be told it was kind of a drag. I am just a few weeks away from graduation, so of course most of my life energy is focused on school right now plus a bunch of other issues." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201010203.gmi | May 11 00:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Still uses a reverse projection television. The bulb was burning out and he said he ordered another one and it cost him $70. | May 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | [00:10] <DaemonFC> Her husband is a really weird guy.\ | May 11 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | The bulbs cost about 1/6th of a new big screen LED that'll take up 20% of the electric and the reverse projection bulbs just burn out again in a few years so you have to replace them over and over. | May 11 00:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | like father like son | May 11 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's not John's dad. | May 11 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Robert seemed nice enough. Only met him once. John's dad is Juan. | May 11 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | He's on his third family now. | May 11 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Dude's like 60 and he's married to a woman my age and has more kids with her. | May 11 00:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | SonJuan | May 11 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Neither he or his wife have any sense of money either. | May 11 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC | They took out a vehicle equity loan on their 2011 Prius so they'll never get it paid off, then they used the money to prop up their overspending. | May 11 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be surprised if they haven't been sued already. | May 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he should meet marisol for the 4th family then (Re: Neither he or his wife have any sense of money either.) | May 11 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL wouldn't be interested in him. | May 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | He's already loaded up with debt and on his last leg health-wise. | May 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | she is also deep in debt | May 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | His kids with the third wife won't have a dad by the time they're 25. | May 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mark's parents are bust | May 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but I know how she thinks. | May 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | those shoes are worthless | May 11 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | If she ever ditches Mark, it'll be so she can load up her next husband with credit card debt. | May 11 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and she votes Ferdinand Jr. | May 11 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | bringing back Immelda | May 11 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, the whole US is a mess like this | May 11 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | many companies are like that, mostly debt | May 11 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | little assets | May 11 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | (inc. the company where I work) | May 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | debt is the new currency they say | May 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they measure how much minus | May 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | dick-measuring content where less is more | May 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and where more debt is "prospects" | May 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we managed to get more loans than you! ha ha!" | May 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if that's a positive | May 11 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | CNN says American households took on another $62 billion in debt last month. | May 11 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | Hey hell, why not. | May 11 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's one big turkey shoot headed for the bankruptcy courts anyway. | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's aside from national debt | May 11 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | US is about 34 trillion in debt | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | local gov. is about 3-4 | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | USA Inc. is insolvent | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter was sold to outsiders | May 11 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | My credit is pretty much ruined. But it's better than it was before I filed bankruptcy. | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | KSA, South African slavery family etc. | May 11 00:17 |
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| DaemonFC | It was 490 and then it went back up to 550, and now it's at 650. | May 11 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | You might say, | May 11 00:18 |
| activelow | http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ | May 11 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Itâs About Back Doors â Not Real Security â Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights | May 11 00:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | one day USA will be sold | May 11 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's a dumb thing to do | May 11 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | or to say | May 11 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it is already sold | May 11 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | You do need good credit even if you aren't interested in loans and mortgages. | May 11 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | follow the money of the debtors | May 11 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | The insurance companies use it to rate you. | May 11 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you have no credit score, they use it as an excuse to rip you off on car insurance for about another $800 a year. | May 11 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | whatever | May 11 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | There's only like 4 states where they can't fuck you like that. | May 11 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't want a car anymore | May 11 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Everywhere else it's a free for all, so they do it. | May 11 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I throw all the lending spam right in the bin | May 11 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still gets lots of that spam | May 11 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | claiming 0% interest | May 11 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, for a while anyway. On a credit card? | May 11 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | 15-18 months. | May 11 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's how they reel you in. | May 11 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people borrow money to buy homes overvalued before the bubble implodes | May 11 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | At first it doesn't cost you that much to go into debt and make minimum payments. | May 11 00:20 |
| activelow | puff piece is a rather polite expression to describe openssf ... | May 11 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | 18 months sounds like forever. | May 11 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then they sit on an "asset" worth barely half what they paid | May 11 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | So you max out the card and 18 months happens and then you're in trouble. | May 11 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | one reason I want to change jobs is the loan shark we're made to "help" | May 11 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they run a network of wordpress sites that they use to rope in victims | May 11 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | i refuse to work on that | May 11 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | those sites should all be OFFLINE | May 11 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, I have bills and Mandy's like "Don't we already have like 7 credit cards?". | May 11 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | And I said, "Yeah.". | May 11 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | He goes, "Well what the fuck are you doing with 7 credit cards?". | May 11 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | better to have more bank accounts | May 11 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Well, none of them carry a balance.". | May 11 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | not plastics that have your name with a minus attached to them | May 11 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | "They each have their highest rewards schemes on a different category." | May 11 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | "About five percent of our income comes from credit card points. Life's expensive." | May 11 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | be careful what you sign | May 11 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's subject to change | May 11 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | what you sign might have a section consenting to future changes | May 11 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then before you know it they rip you off | May 11 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a bank once did when closing my account while stealing my balance | May 11 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they had lied to me about no annual charges | May 11 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the federal Credit CARD Act says they have to notify you 45 days in advance of changes. | May 11 00:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | and then quietly added those in | May 11 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | better to record what banksters tell you | May 11 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | And you can cancel the card, and they can't make those changes retroactive on things you've already put on the card. | May 11 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you can prove they broke a promise or lied | May 11 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I get emails saying "Our Card Agreement has changed. Here's what's changing." sometimes and I read them. | May 11 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Most people don't. | May 11 00:25 |
| techrights-news | "In the Drake equation, Iâm a bit of an ET-naysayer, I had really underestimated R. The Milky Way is a liâl bit bigger than I thought." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/drake-equation | May 11 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | They have to summarize what's changing and then go into the particulars. | May 11 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | I got one from the bank one day that says they were doing away with overdraft fees. | May 11 00:25 |
| techrights-news | "I bristled at this teaching in grade school (in âlÃ¥gstadietâ) because it felt like we were being taught an oversimplification, a falsehood, a myth." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/five-senses | May 11 00:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they rely on people too busty with a hard life | May 11 00:27 |
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| schestowitz-TR | and not reading the changes | May 11 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then getting exploited or not botering | May 11 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | not pursuing correction | May 11 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, banksters are called that for a reason | May 11 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're like gangsters | May 11 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like patent lawyers | May 11 00:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't think of themselves that way | May 11 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | No, people like to think they're important and serving a purpose. | May 11 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Banks don't create anything, they're just moneychangers. | May 11 00:29 |
| techrights-news | Canonical does not promote GNU/Linux https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 | May 11 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu | May 11 00:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | yup | May 11 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | banks are just that | May 11 00:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | central banksters are worse | May 11 00:31 |
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| techrights-news | SUSE, Docker, and More ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164703 | May 11 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE, Docker, and More | Tux Machines | May 11 00:33 | |
| activelow | doubt openssf intersects with any real project... not sure | May 11 00:34 |
| activelow | i remember, gentoo founder went to microsoft.. and gentoo does exactly what openssf announces it would do | May 11 00:34 |
| activelow | ideally i can remove all gentoo dependencies, that's why tinycc is important too, because toolchain maintenance of GCC etc. is too complicated | May 11 00:35 |
| activelow | few days ago, gentoo.org security notifications labeled _all_ web browsers red with highest severity | May 11 00:37 |
| activelow | one example, and they jumped into bed with each other, microsoft edge, chromium | May 11 00:38 |
| activelow | mozilla heading towards apple/rust/clang... all of it wiped here | May 11 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | "tinycc is important" <- It didn't take long for activelow to forget that compilers like https://sr.ht/~mcf/cproc/ exist. | May 11 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sr.ht | cproc: Small C11 compiler based on QBE | May 11 00:38 | |
| activelow | XRevan86: if you're willing to help i would be curious if any other compiler can compile linux kernel, such as QBE, tinycc | May 11 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | QBE is not a compiler, it's a compiler back-end akin to LLVM but simpler. | May 11 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | (and written in C, surprise-surprise) | May 11 00:42 |
| activelow | i don't care how you name this, if it can't compile linux kernel | May 11 00:42 |
| techrights-news | â links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | â¾ Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | May 11 00:42 |
| techrights-news | â â links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | â¾ Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | â¾ Gemini address: â links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | â¾ Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | May 11 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Your argument is really strange, since the competition is a half-dead C99 compiler. | May 11 00:43 |
| techrights-news | Links 10/05/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Techrights â http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/rhel-9/ | â¾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/rhel-9/ | May 11 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/05/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Techrights | May 11 00:43 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye consider TinyCC to be better suited at compiling Linux? | May 11 00:43 |
| activelow | XRevan86: any later than gcc 4.7 are dead | May 11 00:44 |
| techrights-news | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704 | May 11 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 00:44 | |
| techrights-news | Videos: Chinaâs GNU/Linux Embrace and More ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164705 | May 11 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: China's GNU/Linux Embrace and More | Tux Machines | May 11 00:44 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164706 | May 11 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 00:44 | |
| activelow | and i say tinycc _was_ the last project i knew which succeeded partially with kernel-4.6... yet with my minor patch against kernel-5.10 tinycc could eat most of it | May 11 00:45 |
| activelow | difference between tinycc and qbe/cproc, tinycc demonstrated it did the joib | May 11 00:45 |
| activelow | job | May 11 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | This logic is as solid as a Swiss watch. | May 11 00:45 |
| techrights-news | ZDNet: we've covered IBM's paid-for FLUFF because IBM PAYS us to do this while ignoring China's GNU/Linux-friendly policy. The editorial choices are the PRODUCT. Boycott ZDNet. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet | May 11 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | May 11 00:46 | |
| XRevan86 | activelow: That feature-dead compiler is sure the best chance at compiling contemporary Linux. | May 11 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | Because many years in its prime it could build something from the Linux source tree. | May 11 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | * many years ago | May 11 00:48 |
| activelow | it could compile entire linux v2.6, JIT, yes | May 11 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | That actively developed compiler that states C11 and some GCC extensions' compliance has nothing on TinyCC. | May 11 00:49 |
| activelow | linux v4.6 bricked, only partial success, kernel v5.10 required some nasty patching already for gcc-4.7 (no time yet for tinycc)... and kernel v5.15 locked into some more feature creap again and gcc-5.x... | May 11 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | I really doubt that it can build Linux, but maybe it will fail later in the build process than TinyCC. | May 11 00:50 |
| activelow | XRevan86: situation currently is simply this, i am not aware of any C(!) compiler which demonstarted it fully compiled linux kernel v5.10 | May 11 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: That attempt at "sic!" is not really successful, because GCC and Clang are C compilers amongst other things, and they demonstrated that they can. | May 11 00:52 |
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| activelow | >gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, end of discussion; these are written in c++, and have the usual characterstics of this type of software which is typically written with c++ | May 11 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | "However, this mistake could be attributable to the writers following the [Ferengi] 239th rule of acquisition. 'Never be afraid to mislabel a product.'" | May 11 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | May 11 00:54 |
| activelow | XRevan86: i already patched kernel 5.10, what have you got to claim you progressed further with QBE? | May 11 00:54 |
| activelow | too i downgraded to gcc-4.7 already, wiped all c++ dependencies... what have you got in preparation for any C(!) compiler to feed with? | May 11 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I tend to do things in such a way that it doesn't go too much against the flow, when possible. | May 11 00:55 |
| activelow | anyway... triggered another devdrop build, which just launched, meaning good night | May 11 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I finally broke my mom of one bad habit (for the environment and the bank account). Changing your oil every few months. | May 11 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: "gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, end of discussion; these are written in c++" <- So the language in which the compiler is written is what language the compiler is for? | May 11 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to make my case that as long as you're checking it every couple of weeks to make sure you're not losing any, you can usually do it about every year with the mileage she's driving. | May 11 00:56 |
| activelow | ">gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, these are written in c++" | May 11 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've never had a car with engine problems. | May 11 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | But I use good stuff and I keep an eye on it. | May 11 00:57 |
| activelow | XRevan86: yes, the choice of implementation language of the compile define it's qualities | May 11 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | We're having all these damned oil supply problems and the price is going up like crazy. | May 11 00:57 |
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| activelow | how can you question this? try to bootstrap tcc with all support cross compilers... 5 minutes... done... | May 11 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | So changing it out too often is going to cost you a lot of money these days. | May 11 00:58 |
| activelow | do the same with GCC... with the exact same resources available, requires hours and days of time | May 11 00:58 |
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| activelow | not to mention the _instability_ of c++ language feature set and it's standard library | May 11 00:58 |
| techrights-news | This is a GNOME thing, not a Ubuntu thing, and it's most likely the work of (mostly) Red Hat https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/05/disable-animations-in-ubuntu-22-04 | May 11 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | How to Disable UI Animations in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - OMG! Ubuntu! | May 11 00:59 | |
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| ADT | .net is the new c++ | May 11 00:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok.. | May 11 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/used-car-prices-continue-to-drop-but-at-a-slower-pace | May 11 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Used car prices continue to drop, but at a slower pace | May 11 01:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Prices paid by DEALERS is going down. | May 11 01:00 |
| ADT | .net is mono on linux? | May 11 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, they're padding their profit margin. People are desperate to raise money. They sell their car for less because it's one asset they can dispose of quickly. | May 11 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | Dealer raises prices even though they're getting them cheaper. | May 11 01:01 |
| ADT | were are you copy pasting this from? | May 11 01:01 |
| XRevan86 | ADT: Mono is kind of its own thing. .NET Core also supports GNU/Linux. | May 11 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, You're right that car ownership is pretty terrible. | May 11 01:02 |
| techrights-news | On automating a gemini capsule with gssg gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/using-gssg-to-build-site.gmi | May 11 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | You can avoid "stepping in it" on a brand that's just no good, like anything German. | May 11 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | ADT: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetry It also has this. | May 11 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | .NET SDK and .NET CLI telemetry - .NET CLI | Microsoft Docs | May 11 01:02 | |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Did you see where Lada says they're going to deal with sanctions by shipping the cars with no air conditioner? | May 11 01:03 |
| activelow | anyway... triggered another devdrop build, which just launched, meaning good night | May 11 01:03 |
| ADT | german cats are some of the best | May 11 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how much of a concession that is in Russia overall. | May 11 01:03 |
| techrights-news | Some thoughts on Gemini gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/gemini-thoughts.gmi "For some reason, I am having a really good time setting this thing up. I feel like I am back in the old days of the internetâa time when we never could tell who was looking at our site" | May 11 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I heard about Euro-0. And about that they don't know how to produce anything at all. | May 11 01:03 |
| ADT | is DT guy on this irc ? | May 11 01:04 |
| ADT | DaemonFC are you the hey DT guy? | May 11 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | No? | May 11 01:04 |
| ADT | are you sure? | May 11 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | The air conditioner on the Impala konked out finally. It works, but only when you're going up or down a hill. | May 11 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | And then it stops again. | May 11 01:05 |
| ADT | you do know who im talking about? | May 11 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have to recharge it. | May 11 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Or just start driving up and down a lot of hills, I suppose. | May 11 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: "I don't know how much of a concession that is in Russia overall." <- Not sure what ye mean. I think it's a huge question what kind of product they're even going to muster up eventually. | May 11 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | Lack of air conditioning might be not on the top of the list of peculiarities. | May 11 01:06 |
| ADT | impala linux dluxe | May 11 01:08 |
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| ADT | do you know the DT guy the linux youtuber? | May 11 01:10 |
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| XRevan86 | ADT: DistroTube? | May 11 01:10 |
| ADT | yes | May 11 01:11 |
| *XRevan86 is aware of his existence. | May 11 01:11 | |
| ADT | Hey, DT! | May 11 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | ADT: Why do ye think he's here? | May 11 01:12 |
| ADT | atention deficit disorder dude | May 11 01:12 |
| ADT | cause you link him alot | May 11 01:12 |
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| techrights-news | KDE-Neon is such an awkward distro. Each OS update is like (almost) installing everything all over again, and it only configures itself during the reboot. It's not for your average production system. Also: memory leaks. | May 11 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe talk to Vlad about that. | May 11 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | Russia seems to be really good at producing tanks to drive up and then get burned alive in when a Javelin hits them. | May 11 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | If they spent less on that, they could have better cars. | May 11 01:14 |
| ADT | techrights-news looks alot like windows | May 11 01:14 |
| ADT | you could install linux faster then windows update | May 11 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | One of the few things Americans seem to agree on is that 86% think burning those Russian bastards alive in their tanks is worth every penny. | May 11 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | So Putin united us on at least that. | May 11 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I'm legally obligated to condemn the use of the word "bastards" here. | May 11 01:16 |
| techrights-news | COVID-19 'solved' in UK by virtue of not publishing data about it http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/10/hiding-covid/ | May 11 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 in the UK: Going Dark, Hiding the Problem Instead of Solving It | May 11 01:16 | |
| ADT | legally? | May 11 01:16 |
| techrights-news | Python Database Programming with MongoDB | Developer.com â https://www.developer.com/languages/python-mongodb/ ä· Source: developer | May 11 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Python Database Programming with MongoDB | Developer.com | May 11 01:17 | |
| ADT | you see i was right elon musk really both tweeter to unban donald trump | May 11 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | ADT: Well, not really. But I legally can't agree with that, so that's close. | May 11 01:17 |
| ADT | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-donald-trump-twitter/ | May 11 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Elon Musk says he would allow Donald Trump back on Twitter - CBS News | May 11 01:18 | |
| techrights-news | Danielle Foré Has an Update for elementary OS 7 ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164707 | May 11 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Danielle Foré Has an Update for elementary OS 7 | Tux Machines | May 11 01:19 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Putin is really good at uniting like that. | May 11 01:19 |
| XRevan86 | Just look at Sweden and Finland. | May 11 01:19 |
| ADT | in any sane nation donald trump would be trialed for treason | May 11 01:19 |
| ADT | donald trump is going to end war with putin and launch a special operation on mexico | May 11 01:20 |
| ADT | they really did a sloppy job the 1st time | May 11 01:21 |
| ADT | usa need to be united with panama | May 11 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | A Russian candidate plans to run for USA Inc. 2024 | May 11 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so Twitter account needed | May 11 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | MusKSA coordinated the purchase with Trump, based on report | May 11 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | or with that CEO of Truth Sovisl | May 11 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | Devin Nunes was it? | May 11 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Truth Social failed badly | May 11 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | taking over Twitter using Saudi oil money is a contigency | May 11 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I have question | May 11 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it relates to something discussed in #boycottnovell yesterday (hours ago) | May 11 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | how does not best respond to claims that Putin's approval rating soared? | May 11 01:27 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That ratings is a mechanism relevant only to democracies. | May 11 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of the legitimacy\? | May 11 01:28 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | May 11 01:32 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ | May 11 01:32 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 | May 11 01:32 | |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There are several factors at play: 1. plain fear, because of which people who disagree are much less likely to even respond; 2. lack of consequences, since people don't have a part in decision making they are less likely to bother to have a well-formed opinion; 3. state propaganda which brain-washes at unprecedented levels; 4. natural human comformism which makes people less likely to sid | May 11 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | e with the Enemies of the Nation. | May 11 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | e with the Enemies of the Nation. | May 11 01:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | thanks, makes sense | May 11 01:32 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: With regular ratings dictators always get absurdly high approval. | May 11 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe that means that democracies don't work as well if dictators have several times higher approvals of their dictator governments :). (it doesn't) | May 11 01:38 |
| XRevan86 | 1.1. and fear can push people towards conformism on a mental level. | May 11 01:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | does beatka mean anything in Russia? | May 11 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | betka | May 11 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | >batka | May 11 01:43 |
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| schestowitz-TR | in Belarus the dictator's regime uses the term | May 11 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | ADT, I don't know if the war on Mexico idea was serious, but Trump ordered Defense Secretary Mark Esper to look into firing cruise missiles into Mexico. | May 11 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | That didn't come out until last week. So if you were joking, you actually hit on something that did come up during the administration. | May 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | he also wanted to fire live ammo at protesters | May 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Musk: let him in, let's bring back the shitshow | May 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Trump wanted to hit the "drug cartels" with the missiles, he said. | May 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Mexico is in danger from the United States because they don't have nuclear missiles. | May 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the boy who was brutally beaten at school wants to help bullies now | May 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | If you have nuclear missiles, you're only in danger of harassment via proxy war. | May 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Then the US government wants to know why everyone suddenly wants nukes. | May 11 01:46 |
| techrights-news | We Turn 18 Next Month ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164708 | May 11 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We Turn 18 Next Month | Tux Machines | May 11 01:46 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The word is used for Lukashenko, it means father but with an informal connotation which I can't translate. | May 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | I think the reason the proxy war harassment of Russia is so popular is because we're not in any real danger ourselves and it is doing significant degradation to Russia's military. | May 11 01:47 |
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| ADT66 | democracies have to get it right all the time dictators only need to get it right once | May 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | All we have to do is prop up some backwater nation state with enough of our weapons to give Putler a really bad day and then grab the popcorn. | May 11 01:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | give them weapons only if they inevstigate Biden | May 11 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then get Trumpcorn | May 11 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also regarding propaganda, I should point out that it has never been this effective, so I attribute its success to that people really-really want the brainwash, to escape reality. | May 11 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | ADT66: That's true. | May 11 01:49 |
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| DaemonFC | We're decades ahead of anything Ukraine had, which was Russian to begin with...so like, big whoop. | May 11 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | Half of it probably didn't work right to begin with. | May 11 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's slander of 40 year old machinery. | May 11 01:52 |
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| DaemonFC | I care? | May 11 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | You'll notice that the Chinese middle class is driving Buicks if they can get them. | May 11 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Not a big market for Ladas. | May 11 02:01 |
| chicksahoy | At least you aren't riding a bike anymore | May 11 02:01 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Ukraine-manufactured Neptune missiles got the job done on a certain warship. | May 11 02:02 |
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| DaemonFC | Just an Impala with no air conditioning that likes to go into a seizure for a few seconds in the winter when I hit a snow bank. | May 11 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | For a few more days until I get my Buick back. | May 11 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | Many they were from the good half. | May 11 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | * Maybe | May 11 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> Many they were from the good half. | May 11 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | They seemed to be good enough to hit the munitions store and set off secondary explosions. | May 11 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I mean maybe by chance, but it's where you would aim. | May 11 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | Accuracy is half the job. | May 11 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | The other half is a proprietary blend of luck and swagger. | May 11 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's not hard to imagine, because the worldview alternative to the propaganda provides no hope. I try to go with the truth, and I have no hope. | May 11 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | I really hope we're giving Ukraine some more anti-ship missiles. | May 11 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | They can just keep sinking the Russian ships and saying they had more "Neptune" missiles. | May 11 02:09 |
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| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Did you see the Ukrainian "Captured Russian Tank Parade"? | May 11 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think theirs was bigger. | May 11 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I saw it, yes. | May 11 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Posted on Twitter under "Shit we stole from Pootie Poot". | May 11 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | (No, not really, but close.) | May 11 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | I haven't really looked at the Moscow parade up close, only what the dictator uttered out of his mouth. And that there was no aviation. | May 11 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | It must be humiliating that you're losing almost as many tanks to the crews being smart enough to get out and run as you are to being blown up | May 11 02:11 |
| XRevan86 | There was going to be a flight in the form of a letter Z, but they cancelled it all. | May 11 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | Too many aircraft lost to Stingers....I mean, no particular reason. | May 11 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | Scheduling conflicts. | May 11 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | in the formation that is | May 11 02:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision | May 11 02:13 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's probably not it. | May 11 02:13 |
| XRevan86 | Russia still has a shit tonne of aircraft, and they were there for the repetitions. | May 11 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | One fun hypothesis is that everything was cancelled for the small chance that a plane could decide to go on a collision course with Putin. | May 11 02:15 |
| techrights-news | The master IBM runs "election", with candidates prefiltered by the master https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f36-elections-nominations-now-open/ | May 11 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | F36 elections nominations now open â Fedora Community Blog | May 11 02:15 | |
| techrights-news | https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/ | May 11 02:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 381 â Mozilla Does Something Meta â mintCast | May 11 02:16 | |
| techrights-news | 381 - Mozilla Does Something Meta - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/ | May 11 02:16 |
| XRevan86 | Putin is pretty paranoid when it comes to his life (amongst other things), which is evident even simply by his bunker way of life. | May 11 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Big layoffs at Carvana. | May 11 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Online automotive retailer Carvana Co. says itâs letting go about 2,500 workers, roughly 12% of its workforce, as it tries to bring staffing and expenses in line with sales." | May 11 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | And potentially aviation was seen as a non-zero threat. | May 11 02:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | plane dives? | May 11 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can disarm the planes | May 11 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yes, plane dives. | May 11 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | The official reason was bad weather of all things. | May 11 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | It's rare to see a day as sunny as was May 9th in St. Petersburg and Moscow. | May 11 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces. | May 11 02:22 |
| XRevan86 | I don't really see how, but I'm not a military expert. | May 11 02:22 |
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| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces. | May 11 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's hard to sneak across the border with Stingers isn't it? | May 11 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I know, Ukraine has only gone into Russia once and that was to blow up a fuel depot that was close to the border. | May 11 03:59 |
| MinceR | was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces? | May 11 04:07 |
| MinceR | 11 031305 < schestowitz-TR> drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision | May 11 04:08 |
| MinceR | yet another advantage to the zwastika! | May 11 04:08 |
| MinceR | 11 015943 < ADT> .net is the new c++ | May 11 04:08 |
| MinceR | no, it's a crappy java clone | May 11 04:08 |
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| DaemonFC | <MinceR> was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces? | May 11 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | Unless Russia blew up their own fuel depot for whatever reason, I suppose. | May 11 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | Don't know why they would. | May 11 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe XRevan86 could speculate. | May 11 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Maybe Jussie Smollett gave the Russians advice on how to conduct the war. | May 11 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | First you kick your own ass, then you get caught, then it's the end of your career, then you go to jail, then you get out of jail when you whine that they only sent you to jail for being black. | May 11 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Profit. | May 11 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So, the Buick dealer wants $60,000 for a Buick today. | May 11 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | And there's no Buick on their lot that costs less than $53,250. | May 11 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | That's the base model. | May 11 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you want to lease one of the $60,000 Buicks, you get a three year lease. You have to pay them $6,000 down and another $24,000 in installments over 36 months. Then if you turn it in with more than 10,000 miles on the odometer, you owe an additional 25 cents per mile when you go to turn it in. | May 11 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | So it's half the cost of buying one, you never own it, they take it back in three years, and you're barely allowed to drive it. | May 11 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, That seems like one of the worst deals out there to me. | May 11 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | The average annual mileage a vehicle is driven is 9,250 in the United States, per year. | May 11 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | So if you just drive the average amount, you will owe them $4,437.50 in mileage when you go to turn it in. | May 11 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So at that point, you paid $34,437.50+tax to lease a $60,000 Buick for three years and then turn it back in. | May 11 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | And if it's been scratched, scraped, dented, door dinged, etc. they want money for that too. | May 11 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | I remember mom telling me they were at a drive in movie with my dad and my aunt and uncle back in the 70s and some guy kept getting out and whacking my dad's Plymouth with their car door. So he got out (wearing steel toed boots) and kicked the side of their car and left a huge dent in it. | May 11 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Violent crime happens in Afghanistan during all times of day, so do not think that daylight makes you safe. You can expect muggings, burglaries, and carjacking since this country is shaken by war and in extremely bad condition. The risk increases after dark, so avoid going anywhere after nightfall." | May 11 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | Just replace "Afghanistan" with "Chicago" and you get a good description of Chicago. | May 11 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody worries about damaging your car. | May 11 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | You're lucky if they don't just point a gun at you and say "That's my car now. Get out!". | May 11 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's amazing how light Chicago gets off on the website about travel risk I'm reading. | May 11 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | Carjackings in Chicago have gotten so bad that they even carjacked the state senate majority leader. | May 11 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that the police are working her case real hard after her defund the police bill. | May 11 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Someone at the Catholic church was talking about Hell. | May 11 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Actually, there is no Hell, but I hear Chicago's getting close.". | May 11 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | Christians are like Star Trek nerds. | May 11 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | Huddling together, comparing the source material. | May 11 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard. | May 11 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-states/ | May 11 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.travelsafe-abroad.com | How Safe Is United States for Travel? (2022 Updated) â Travel Safe - Abroad | May 11 05:49 | |
| DaemonFC | "This country is infamous for gun usage and the selling of guns, but the truth is that most violent crimes that do occur in the US, occur in suburbs or urban areas of some cities. | May 11 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | It is by no means as widespread throughout the entire country as the media would have us believe." | May 11 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | It is by no means as widespread throughout the entire country as the media would have us believe." | May 11 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, because most of it is gang warfare in major cities which are unlivable cesspits anyway. | May 11 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | Even if you ignore the crime, the cost of living easily doubles (or more) so you wouldn't want to go there anyway if you were smart. | May 11 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | They don't mention that gun crime committed by people who were legally allowed to buy and sell guns is very uncommon. | May 11 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | The areas of the country with the highest rates of legal gun ownership are also some of the safest area of the country to travel to. | May 11 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | Usually, you'd be okay there even if you walk around at night or leave your car door unlocked. | May 11 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | The criminal activity that tends to happen the most in rural areas where legal gun ownership is high tend to be someone smoking marijuana. | May 11 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | While I lived in a town in Indiana of about 37,000 where almost everyone had a gun in the house, there were 2 murders in 14 years. | May 11 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | There was also a bank robbery, but amusingly enough he had a fake gun during the robbery. | May 11 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Of the two murders in the 14 years, neither of them happened involving a gun. One was a DEA agent who was burned to death and another was a guy who followed his cheating wife into a convenience store and stabbed her. | May 11 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | Quite frequently, I would walk around the entire town at night for something to do (exercise) with four or five thousand dollars cash in my pocket. | May 11 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing ever happened. Quite often I wouldn't even see one other person out, or sometimes just the sporadic traffic on US 30, which ran through the town. | May 11 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, in Chicago, three teenagers mugged me at gunpoint on month two and stole my phone. | May 11 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't have any cash on me because I knew I was in a large city where a mugging was possible. | May 11 05:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ââ â â âââ ââ ââ â âââ ââââ ââ âââ â â â âââââ ââ avg(k/sec) 22.61 â IPFS upstream: âââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 25.58â swarm size (avg): 426.13 â² | May 11 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | "Mass shootings" are just the new way of putting "the same gang violence that has always plagued shitholes like Chicago". | May 11 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | If you're literally anywhere else in Illinois, it's not very likely. | May 11 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | Liberals have to blame guns for the fact that criminal gangs are roaming the streets and it wouldn't be politically correct to jail them. Even though the state does pretty much fuck all about crime, Chicago is one of the most heavily surveiled cities in America, and even the world. | May 11 06:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | May 11 07:49 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | May 11 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 11 07:49 | |
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| matey | hooray for ibm, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers! | May 11 07:52 |
| matey | i read a cool article about enterprisers, and its red hats mcdonaldsland magic language that means "cio" | May 11 07:52 |
| matey | so theyre not cios anymore, theyre ENTERPRISERS now | May 11 07:53 |
| matey | and i guess if youre an enterpriser, you do enterprising | May 11 07:53 |
| matey | you know who else is an enterpriser? this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard | May 11 07:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jean-Luc Picard - Wikipedia | May 11 07:53 | |
| matey | but hes not a cio, hes just a regular enterpriser | May 11 07:54 |
| matey | i wonder what ibm calls trekkies | May 11 07:54 |
| matey | ibm should have a cool word for users too | May 11 07:55 |
| matey | users do useops | May 11 07:55 |
| SomeH4x0r | hi | May 11 07:55 |
| matey | hi | May 11 07:55 |
| matey | maybe theyre useoppers | May 11 07:55 |
| matey | i dont know how ibms version of english works | May 11 07:56 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D228.jpg | May 11 07:56 |
| matey | ibm is really laying it on thick | May 11 07:56 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D585.jpg | May 11 07:57 |
| matey | theres a devops INSTITUTE | May 11 07:57 |
| matey | mit is obsolete | May 11 07:57 |
| techrights-news | "I followed this blog as a teenager, and it made me fall in love with console applications. I discovered Linux around the age of 14 if I remember correctly, after I spent most of my childhood with DOS games from '93 or so" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/i-miss-kmandla.gmi | May 11 07:58 |
| matey | theres no doctorate of devops at mit, just some old nonsense no one cares about anymore | May 11 07:58 |
| techrights-news | "I am tired so much because of allergy meds and just having hard time to sleep because general anxiety. What really annoys me about it is that I have drive to work on my own programming projects but no energy." gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/2022-05-10-Constantly-tired.gmi | May 11 07:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: âââ ââ â â ââââ â â âââââ ââ ââ ââ ââ â ââ ââ ââ ââ â avg(k/sec) 30.70 â IPFS upstream: ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 17.23â swarm size (avg): 401.00 â² | May 11 07:59 |
| techrights-news | Superhighway84 on FreeBSD gemini://rawtext.club/~ecliptik/_posts/2022-01-17-Superhighway84-on-FreeBSD.gmi | May 11 08:00 |
| techrights-news | Gemini Radio - Episode 40 gemini://kwiecien.us/gemcast/20220511.gmi | May 11 08:00 |
| techrights-news | "Fedora Linux 36 is officially out now, after a number of delays as the Fedora team don't like to rush things out" â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/fedora-linux-36-is-officially-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Linux 36 is officially out now | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | "AMD has today announced the expansion of the Radeon RX 6000 Series" â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/amd-releases-the-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx-6750-xt-and-rx-6650-xt/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD releases the Radeon RX 6950 XT, RX 6750 XT and RX 6650 XT | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | "Intel are set to fully enter the dedicated GPU game soon with Intel Arc" â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/intel-gives-an-unclear-update-on-when-to-expect-intel-arc-gpu-availability/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel gives an unclear update on when to expect Intel Arc GPU availability | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | "Do you have an iPad or an iPhone laying around or as one of your main devices? Now you can use them to interact with your Linux PC a little easier." â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/manage-your-linux-pc-remotely-as-kde-connect-lands-on-iphone-and-ipad/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manage your Linux PC remotely as KDE Connect lands on iPhone and iPad | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | "Need some fresh games for your desktop or Steam Deck?" â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Save loads on tons of games in the Humble Store Spring Sale | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | Urban Games and Good Shepherd Entertainment â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/transport-fever-2-patch-adds-more-control-new-options-and-extends-modding/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Transport Fever 2 patch adds more control, new options and extends modding | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Perhaps an answer to "Deck Neck" where your neck starts to hurt staring down at the Steam Deck?" â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/viture-one-xr-glasses-look-fun-paired-up-with-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VITURE One XR glasses look fun paired up with a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Not exactly a big surprise given the price but the Steam Deck has managed to stay at number 1 of the Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers list." â https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/sorted-by-revenue-the-steam-deck-has-been-the-number-1-top-seller-for-4-weeks/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorted by revenue, the Steam Deck has been the number 1 top seller for 4 weeks | GamingOnLinux | May 11 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | "Today I gave a keynote address at Red Hat Summit; the following is an excerpt from that talk" â https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-normal-it-starts-open-source | Source: Red Hat Official | May 11 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | The new normal for IT starts with open source | May 11 08:11 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat chasing cars (they rarely run Red Hat) â https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-standard-red-hat-vehicle-operating-system-modern-and-future-vehicles | Source: Red Hat Official | May 11 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | The new standard: Red Hat In-Vehicle Operating System in modern and future vehicles | May 11 08:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Are your edge computing systems secure?" Red Hat upselling "security" (not a fair business model) â https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-edge | Source: Red Hat Official | May 11 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux at the edge | May 11 08:12 | |
| techrights-news | "It supports a vast choice of hardware architectures from x86 to Arm to Power and Z" â https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/fueling-spark-innovation | Source: Red Hat Official | May 11 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Fueling the spark of innovation | May 11 08:13 | |
| techrights-news | "The Canaan Kendryte K510 SoC is composed of two RISC-V64 processors (up to 800MHz) and a RISC-V DSP" â https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | May 11 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ ) | May 11 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | eurobsdcon https://2022.eurobsdcon.org/the-call-for-talk-and-presentation-proposals-for-eurobsdcon-2022-is-now-open/ | May 11 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2022.eurobsdcon.org | Call for Proposals â EuroBSDCon | May 11 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: police /are/ also civilians https://globalnews.ca/news/8821796/alabama-escaped-inmate-officer-caught/ | May 11 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fugitive Alabama prison officer dies after police capture escaped inmate in Indiana - National | Globalnews.ca | May 11 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fugitive Alabama prison officer dies after police capture escaped inmate in Indiana - National | Globalnews.ca | May 11 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | thunderbird | May 11 08:16 |
| techrights-news | thunderbird | May 11 08:16 |
| techrights-news | Work with Us â Thunderbird â https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/careers/ ä· Source: thunderbird | May 11 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thunderbird.net | Work with Us â Thunderbird | May 11 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thunderbird.net | Work with Us â Thunderbird | May 11 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | Social control media harmful https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-brain-explained-why-some-kids-seem-hooked-on-social-video-feeds-11648866192 WSL paywall | May 11 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok Brain Explained: Why Some Kids Seem Hooked on Social Video Feeds - WSJ | May 11 08:20 | |
| techrights-news | Ransomware is mostly a Windows issue; but securityboulevard won't tell you that https://securityboulevard.com/2022/05/blackcat-ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/ | May 11 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityboulevard.com | BlackCat Ransomware - Security Boulevard | May 11 08:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights | May 11 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies (better to avoid these completely) â https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/simstrategy:c ä· Source: RobBraxmanTech | May 11 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies | May 11 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux â https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/china-to-ditch-50-mil-windows-pcs-for:b ä· Source: BrodieRobertson | May 11 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux | May 11 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | Clownflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews â https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/08/1745203 ä· Source: soylentnews | May 11 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Cloudflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews | May 11 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | OpenPGP https://iacr.org/submit/files/slides/2022/rwc/rwc2022/76/slides.pdf | May 11 08:26 |
| techrights-news | "Heads up! The OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming!!! After the difficult pandemic times" â https://ubuntu.com//blog/openinfra-summit-berlin | Source: Ubuntu | May 11 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming | Ubuntu | May 11 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: "something about Windoze workstations that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage" â https://ubuntu.com//blog/hp-brings-ubuntu-wsl-data-science | Source: Ubuntu | May 11 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HP brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu | May 11 08:28 | |
| techrights-news | Canonical is not a GNU/Linux company. Mark Shuttleworth quit caring. About "bug #1"... â https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 | Source: Ubuntu | May 11 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu | May 11 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | Biden protects the patent monopolies â https://www.thenation.com/article/world/covid-vaccine-patents-biden/ | Source: The Nation | May 11 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Biden Must Not Allow Big Pharma to Hoard Vaccine Technology | The Nation | May 11 08:29 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights â http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ | â¾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ | May 11 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights | May 11 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | Clounflare is cancer on the Web. It needs to be ERADICATED, not "worked around". | May 11 08:31 |
| techrights-news | EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) â https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF | May 11 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 11 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) â https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF | May 11 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 11 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Weâve been running the Gender Balance in Computing programme of research since 2019" â https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi | May 11 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi | May 11 08:34 | |
| SomeH4x0r | you mean they elected a woman *just for this*? Evil, if so. | May 11 08:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, it's nothing like that | May 11 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | women's rights are important | May 11 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but EFF is not that | May 11 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | EFF was founded by 3 men to focus on cyberspace | May 11 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and EFF has this longstanding pattern of deviating away | May 11 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | months ago they kicked out a cofounder | May 11 08:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | women's right are important, as long as it does not turn into SJW toxicity | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | years after the chief one had died | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now EFF seems to be used for personal projects | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the charter | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | SomeH4x0r: abortion seems outside the scope of EFF | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a loaded subject | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | on many levels | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not a tech issue | May 11 08:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine techrights doing articles about abortion | May 11 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would make no sense | May 11 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | surreal | May 11 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday was their third of forth article about Roe | May 11 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | EFF posts maybe, on average, 2 posts per day | May 11 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | not just women's rights but a subset; The EFF was founded to serve in everybody;s interests not justa subset of subset | May 11 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | some women are pro-abortion | May 11 08:39 |
| matey | eff ha s no credibility | May 11 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the EFF splits members apart | May 11 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | not along lines of tech | May 11 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | or risks splitting apart | May 11 08:39 |
| matey | theyve taken everything they ALREADY stood for and flushed it | May 11 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | on issues of tech | May 11 08:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on beliefs on morals of abortion | May 11 08:39 |
| matey | so what difference does it make when they stand for something else? | May 11 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | *nowadays* they have a pattern of going off track, but for many years they | May 11 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | were focused | May 11 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | were focused | May 11 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | yep, people using it for personal projects sums it up | May 11 08:39 |
| matey | again, theyve shown they can walk away from anything they stand for | May 11 08:39 |
| matey | once you have no credibility, you stand for nothing at all | May 11 08:39 |
| matey | its just a show | May 11 08:40 |
| matey | pure bullshit, doesnt matter what cause its for | May 11 08:40 |
| matey | the eff stands for zero causes | May 11 08:40 |
| matey | theyre a brand for hire | May 11 08:40 |
| matey | give them money, theyll say something | May 11 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's what mark cuban did | May 11 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | he paid them | May 11 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they campaigned on patents | May 11 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I said this was problematic | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | billionaires taking eff as lobby for hire | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | provided it roughly aligns with some goals | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | mark cuban also invested in some patent troll | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the issue is | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | member pay due fees | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then comes some billionaire | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | drop a million | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | staff gets hired for his pet project | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | while mentioning his name | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the JOB TITLE | May 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | to praise him | May 11 08:41 |
| matey | i wonder if mark cuban is an enterpriser | May 11 08:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was when Barlow was still in charge BTW | May 11 08:42 |
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| matey | im not an enterpriser, i just do useops | May 11 08:42 |
| matey | useops are what users do, before they move up to devops and enterprising | May 11 08:42 |
| Techrights-sec | :( it seems to be getting that way | May 11 08:42 |
| matey | useoppers and devoppers are like a totally different race (ibm is expert on this) | May 11 08:43 |
| matey | enterprisers will set them straight | May 11 08:43 |
| matey | enterprisers lead the devwaffen | May 11 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | waffen :-) | May 11 08:45 |
| matey | ibms elite forces | May 11 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the eneterprises waffen | May 11 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | hey hi smart clown | May 11 08:45 |
| matey | clownwaffen | May 11 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | "OBEY!!' | May 11 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | "or STFU" | May 11 08:45 |
| matey | /me pictures a swastika made out of opening square brackets | May 11 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | anti-RMS opportunists called it founder complex | May 11 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing | May 11 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true | May 11 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | May 11 08:46 |
| matey | well thats the thing, we had 20 years of torvalds worship | May 11 08:47 |
| matey | then just short of the revelation that he invented 1s and 0s | May 11 08:47 |
| matey | they cancelled him, did stallman identically | May 11 08:47 |
| matey | and then had the audacity to imply that it was stallman, not torvalds who was sucking up hero worship | May 11 08:47 |
| matey | thats the thing about marketing though | May 11 08:48 |
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| matey | once you remove the bullshit ediface from everything used to build up torvalds, so it could be pivoted to a corporate brand | May 11 08:48 |
| matey | the linus foundation | May 11 08:48 |
| matey | you poison the well and blame someone else | May 11 08:48 |
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| matey | open source: worshipped torvalds for two decades | May 11 08:48 |
| matey | also open source: people who defend stallman are hero worshippers | May 11 08:49 |
| Techrights-sec | indeed | May 11 08:49 |
| matey | people who defend stallman are standing against history being rewritten | May 11 08:49 |
| matey | but you cant defend history or its "hero worship" | May 11 08:49 |
| matey | fuck these people | May 11 08:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who oppose OSI lying are homophobic | May 11 08:49 |
| SomeH4x0r | I dislike hero worshipping, that's why I'm on the "evil" side | May 11 08:49 |
| matey | youre an idiot sometimes. this is one of them. | May 11 08:49 |
| matey | hero worshipping is a red herring. | May 11 08:50 |
| matey | its a straw man | May 11 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | May 11 08:50 |
| matey | its got fuck-all to do with hero worship | May 11 08:50 |
| matey | to be fair, i fell for all this open source bullshit once too | May 11 08:51 |
| matey | many years ago | May 11 08:51 |
| matey | but its so smarmy and contrived | May 11 08:51 |
| techrights-news | "A worsening shortage of baby formula in stores across the U.S. is highlighting the urgent need for antitrust regulations" â https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-iron-grip-market-monopolies-behind-baby-formula-shortage | Source: Common Dreams | May 11 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say 'Iron-Grip on Market' by Monopolies Behind Baby Formula Shortage | May 11 08:51 | |
| matey | at some point you either get wise to it | May 11 08:51 |
| matey | or it changes you | May 11 08:51 |
| matey | then you end up spouting bullshit forever | May 11 08:52 |
| matey | good luck | May 11 08:52 |
| techrights-news | Josh Simmons' employer is enabling this surveillance; does OSI know? â https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/it-time-end-inhumane-ice-surveillance-immigrants-me | Source: Common Dreams | May 11 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | It Is Time to End Inhumane ICE Surveillance of Immigrants Like Me | Berto Hernandez | May 11 08:55 | |
| techrights-news | So-called "cryptomining" â https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/50-groups-challenge-biden-rein-climate-killing-cryptomining | Source: Common Dreams | May 11 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 50+ Groups Challenge Biden to Rein In 'Climate-Killing Cryptomining' | May 11 08:56 | |
| techrights-news | "Donât feel bad if you donât know what Cistercian numbers are. Unless youâre a monk of the Order of Cistercia" â https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/number-like-its-1234-ad-with-this-cistercian-keypad/ | Source: Hackaday | May 11 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Number Like Itâs 1234 AD With This Cistercian Keypad | Hackaday | May 11 08:57 | |
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| matey | <schestowitz-TR> as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing <schestowitz-TR> when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true <Techrights-sec> ack <- its a problem, theyre just not honest about it | May 11 09:02 |
| matey | theyre opportunistic | May 11 09:02 |
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| matey | everyone knows the fsf is going to change. thats why like any unstable region gets manipulated by empires, open source and the tech industry in general is attacking with more of their bs than ever before | May 11 09:03 |
| matey | the power vacuum is already here | May 11 09:03 |
| matey | its even been evenly distributed | May 11 09:03 |
| matey | the fsf reminds me so much of iraq its unreal | May 11 09:04 |
| matey | there are other (even more interesting) historical parallels | May 11 09:04 |
| matey | but people know what happened in iraq was bullshit | May 11 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but iraq? | May 11 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | how so? | May 11 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | saddam? | May 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what happened after? | May 11 09:05 |
| matey | the connection to iraq only has a couple points, but theyre very big points | May 11 09:05 |
| matey | its only sort of about saddam, an unfortunate (unintended) side effect of this analogy is that rms is saddam of course | May 11 09:05 |
| matey | but its not about that, its about the situation (not the leader) | May 11 09:05 |
| techrights-news | Framework â https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/framework-board-gets-this-round-display-pc-rolling/ | Source: Hackaday | May 11 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Framework Board Gets This Round Display PC Rolling | Hackaday | May 11 09:05 | |
| matey | and about what the invasion was about, and how it worked | May 11 09:06 |
| techrights-news | "As with any other community, it takes all kinds to make the keyboard world go âround." â https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/thinnest-keyboard-uses-cherry-diy-doubleshot-method/ | Source: Hackaday | May 11 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thinnest Keyboard Uses Cherry DIY Doubleshot Method | Hackaday | May 11 09:06 | |
| matey | saddam was of course, a really shitty leader-- but it missed the point because no one had any intent of fixing that problem | May 11 09:06 |
| matey | first, he was a secular leader, not a religious one | May 11 09:07 |
| matey | so even if he was shit, now the region is overrun with violent religious extremists | May 11 09:07 |
| matey | thats not really an improvement is it | May 11 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | some benefit from this chaos | May 11 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. rival countries | May 11 09:07 |
| matey | of course, and that IS the point | May 11 09:07 |
| matey | it was about stealing resources | May 11 09:07 |
| matey | and the real enemy was in saudi arabia | May 11 09:07 |
| matey | but you cant invade an ally. | May 11 09:08 |
| matey | so lets go to iraq. AGAIN | May 11 09:08 |
| matey | and lets pick on france (who i dont even like) because they wont sign onto this bullshit mass murder scam | May 11 09:08 |
| techrights-news | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 168 is available for testing ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164709 | May 11 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 168 is available for testing | Tux Machines | May 11 09:08 | |
| matey | say what you will about the french, they were spot on about the iraq invasion | May 11 09:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't know about the french | May 11 09:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | jaques [spelling] | May 11 09:09 |
| matey | the scam was that people would go in and replace saddam with a non-tyrant | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was the one obstructing it | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | we wrote a lot about him in 2019 | May 11 09:10 |
| matey | as far as i know that was more recent | May 11 09:10 |
| matey | the iraq invasion happened 19 years ago | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | us likes to leave countries in disarray | May 11 09:10 |
| matey | and i remember the one under bush sr | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the british invaded many places | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they often ended up better off than neighbours | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | nairobi, singapore etc. | May 11 09:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | us mostly bombs places | May 11 09:11 |
| matey | usa foreign policy is to british foreign policy as microsoft tactics are to ibm probably | May 11 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it cannot get its way | May 11 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so resorts to revenge destruction | May 11 09:11 |
| matey | and i mean british empire foreign policy | May 11 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | ibm is older and is less known for destruciton | May 11 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than FUD etc. | May 11 09:11 |
| matey | when it had more empireisers (their relationship to enterprisers is yet to be fully established) | May 11 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't heard people say | May 11 09:12 |
| matey | microsoft learned MOST of its tactics from ibm | May 11 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | "watch our for those IBMers... they have entered to kill us" | May 11 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's a Microsoft thinmg | May 11 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | a cult | May 11 09:12 |
| matey | though its sort of like the cult of scientology under miscaviage vs when it was a cult under l ron hubbard | May 11 09:12 |
| matey | its more ruthless (it was never nice to begin with) | May 11 09:12 |
| techrights-news | Slave lady meets Orban â https://telex.hu/english/2022/05/10/von-der-leyen-after-her-meeting-with-orban-some-progress-was-made | Source: Hungary http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ | May 11 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Von der Leyen after her meeting with Orbán: Some progress was made | May 11 09:13 | |
| matey | microsoft is more ruthless (a cult) than ibm | May 11 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights | May 11 09:13 | |
| matey | ibm sends lawyers | May 11 09:13 |
| matey | microsoft sends thugs | May 11 09:13 |
| matey | and lawyers | May 11 09:13 |
| matey | and bullshit artists | May 11 09:13 |
| schestowitz | speaking of sending laywers http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ | May 11 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights | May 11 09:13 | |
| matey | heh | May 11 09:13 |
| schestowitz | now the Gates-bribed media distracts again | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz | painting Gates as victim of COVID | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz | NPR | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe more | May 11 09:14 |
| matey | mit is so dirty id be happy to see it fall | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz | he's trying to break news cycles | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz | about his crimes | May 11 09:14 |
| matey | it started when they killed aaron | May 11 09:14 |
| matey | now this | May 11 09:14 |
| matey | fuck mit | May 11 09:14 |
| matey | they should turn it into a mail-order university | May 11 09:14 |
| matey | i hope it does | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was thinking of mit hours ago | May 11 09:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how they never received justice | May 11 09:15 |
| matey | but instead of installing a new leader who wasnt a tyrant | May 11 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how, like bbc, each time they're mentioned we should bring up the gates scnadals | May 11 09:15 |
| matey | which of course, people paint rms as a tyrant | May 11 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and remind people what they are | May 11 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email | May 11 09:15 |
| matey | all the war industry did was create a power vacuum | May 11 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was worded not too well | May 11 09:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: look at it likle thios | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | 08:15 <schestowitz-TR> mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email 08:14 <matey> now this <- this is what i was referring to | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the positive slant: | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | then they fight you | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | after they killed aaron | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they ARE fighting | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | they worked to kill free software | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM is KILLING itself in the fighting | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Putin entering Ukraine | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much) | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then Ukraine is being armed by the West | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | i REALLY suck at math. im way better at typing. | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | a proxy war to lower Russian military might | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | its ok, im just not an engineer. | May 11 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM will kill itself | May 11 09:16 |
| matey | thats not fast enough | May 11 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:16] <matey> i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much) | May 11 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | my grandpa also | May 11 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I decided never go study in the US | May 11 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was JUST AFTER the dotcom bust | May 11 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | post 2000 | May 11 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was 18 | May 11 09:17 |
| matey | one of the professors at mit worked on the manhattan project | May 11 09:17 |
| matey | i met him | May 11 09:17 |
| matey | when i was a kid | May 11 09:17 |
| matey | at his office, at mit | May 11 09:17 |
| matey | it was an interesting place then | May 11 09:17 |
| matey | its becoming a corporate dick-sucking contest like most universities these days | May 11 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm sure you two had a blast | May 11 09:18 |
| matey | woof | May 11 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | error: missing argument | May 11 09:18 |
| matey | at any rate, i dont love mit anymore | May 11 09:19 |
| matey | but i did when i was younger | May 11 09:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | dare I say it's not just MIT? | May 11 09:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and more of an image issue of a nation? | May 11 09:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | after bush ii? | May 11 09:19 |
| matey | as for not qualifying, im not sour about that. theres a lot of LESS prestigious universities i wouldnt be a good engineer at too | May 11 09:19 |
| matey | i dont hate them | May 11 09:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | USA had a bit of a better image worldwide before that | May 11 09:20 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> dare I say it's not just MIT? <- i already did | May 11 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | arrogance notwithstanding | May 11 09:20 |
| matey | usa only gets credit for the bad things | May 11 09:20 |
| matey | to be fair, theres a fuckload of that. | May 11 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | many nationalists think the world envies them | May 11 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | while they live in tent cities and cars | May 11 09:20 |
| matey | but it becomes a scapegoat for everything the rest of the world does | May 11 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "yeah... they just enjoy our walmart and stuff" | May 11 09:21 |
| matey | now, when your m.o. is to have your hands in everything | May 11 09:21 |
| matey | and the result is similar... | May 11 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "pagan losers" -Fox and Friends | May 11 09:21 |
| matey | its very difficult to use the word "scapegoat" without irony | May 11 09:21 |
| matey | but its like | May 11 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not apply for MIT | May 11 09:21 |
| matey | imagine the deadliest serial killer getting framed for a murder, right? | May 11 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at 17 I did apply for another Boston-based university | May 11 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they kept chasing me | May 11 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | then 2000 "happened" | May 11 09:22 |
| matey | his innocence isnt the point-- the point is that someone else is going free because the wrong person is getting the blame | May 11 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | tech has not improved since then BTW | May 11 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | look what we had in 2000 | May 11 09:22 |
| matey | usa isnt guilty of all the crimes in the world | May 11 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what we have now | May 11 09:22 |
| matey | just some of the bigger ones (and many of the smaller ones) | May 11 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2000 we already had CounterStrike and stuff | May 11 09:22 |
| matey | theres no reason everyone else should be off the hook (for collaborating, if nothing else) | May 11 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we just render more polygons and waste more power | May 11 09:23 |
| matey | i mean britain went to iraq with usa under false pretenses | May 11 09:23 |
| matey | a lot of countries did | May 11 09:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Spain | May 11 09:23 |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Bamboo ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164710 | May 11 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Bamboo | Tux Machines | May 11 09:23 | |
| matey | those civlians were murdered for industry | May 11 09:23 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164711 | May 11 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 09:23 | |
| matey | for money, no other reason | May 11 09:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | also troops | May 11 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | poverty helps draft people | May 11 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not forcibly per se | May 11 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | just make them broke enough | May 11 09:24 |
| matey | yeah im against troops being deployed for bullshit, but its nothing new | May 11 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | war can be "necessary" | May 11 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | counter-invasion for instance | May 11 09:24 |
| matey | it was nearly a century ago that butler exposed the corporate plot against the usa | May 11 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's not what we see in recent decades | May 11 09:24 |
| matey | hes the one who said "the flag follows the money and the troops follow the flag" | May 11 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | May 11 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a nice sentence | May 11 09:25 |
| matey | and he was a general, and he won the congressional medal of honor | May 11 09:25 |
| matey | theres no congressional medal of honour that i know of | May 11 09:25 |
| matey | but it does look a bit like one of the orders the queen gives out | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they usually spill the beans only late | May 11 09:26 |
| matey | but no sash, so they dangle it from a ribbon | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | when little is left to be lost | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | unloading the guilt | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am sceptical | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like "changing from within" | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | work FOR the system for 40 years | May 11 09:26 |
| matey | i dunno, butler became aware of the plot because they trusted him to be a good old boy | May 11 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | then, afterwards, spent a month badmouthing it | May 11 09:27 |
| matey | and he turned on them | May 11 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, if I decided to leave my job this week, I'll have many stories to tell | May 11 09:27 |
| matey | i would say hes probably a geniune exception | May 11 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | Many NSA whistleblowers are old people | May 11 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Binney | May 11 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | they say, what's gonna happen? | May 11 09:27 |
| matey | i think theres another layer | May 11 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | on many levels | May 11 09:27 |
| matey | im not saying it ISNT like you say | May 11 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. them being close to the end of life, not just career | May 11 09:28 |
| matey | but i think theres another part to it, sometimes | May 11 09:28 |
| matey | institutions change | May 11 09:28 |
| matey | people become increasingly aware of them getting worse | May 11 09:28 |
| matey | like the stalin regime-- it was always bad | May 11 09:28 |
| matey | but it became worse, to the point where he was going to kill his closest people | May 11 09:28 |
| techrights-news | Rutube â https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/10/the-battle-for-rutube | Source: Meduza | May 11 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 11 09:28 | |
| matey | so they (probably) murdered him | May 11 09:28 |
| matey | in russia you can never trust "natural causes" | May 11 09:29 |
| matey | the timing was a hell of a coincidence | May 11 09:29 |
| techrights-news | Daniel Hale: hero, burned by oligarch Omidyar and his pack of wolves â https://couragefound.org/2022/05/sign-petitions-calling-for-daniel-hales-freedom/ | Source: Courage Found | May 11 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couragefound.org | Sign petitions calling for Daniel Haleâs freedom | Courage Foundation | May 11 09:29 | |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos ^ | May 11 09:29 |
| matey | fingers crossed! | May 11 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | Hale is young | May 11 09:29 |
| matey | but the thing is, bad institutions get worse | May 11 09:29 |
| matey | like the nsa | May 11 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I made 3 friends online who are drone whistleblower | May 11 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. Bryant, who killed over 1600 people with dronems | May 11 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | Bryant had to sort of vanish due to threats to his family | May 11 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | after he had ousted himself | May 11 09:30 |
| matey | the thing is, many whistleblowers started out as people who believed in the good of the system | May 11 09:30 |
| matey | then once they realised it wasnt good | May 11 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | became a hero for a bit, then had to go undercover like Rushdie | May 11 09:30 |
| matey | they take some time to doubt themselves | May 11 09:30 |
| matey | to second guess | May 11 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | Bryant was young also | May 11 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe about my age | May 11 09:30 |
| matey | but eventually they turn against the corruption theyve become aware of | May 11 09:31 |
| matey | not all of them were aware of it all along | May 11 09:31 |
| matey | they believed they were working for good people | May 11 09:31 |
| matey | binney in particular, was never against surveillance, within constitutional limits | May 11 09:31 |
| techrights-news | "After 10 years of legal battles following the closure of Megaupload, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk have reached a deal with the authorities" â https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-sign-deal-to-avoid-extradition-dotcom-vows-to-fight-on-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 11 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Megaupload Pair Sign Deal to Avoid Extradition, Dotcom Vows to Fight On * TorrentFreak | May 11 09:31 | |
| matey | you know why they decided to go with mass surveillance, which can be (arguably, even by binney) LESS effective? | May 11 09:32 |
| matey | it COSTS MORE | May 11 09:32 |
| techrights-news | "A man who was wrongfully accused of pirating several adult films has finally recouped $108k in fees and costs" â https://torrentfreak.com/wrongfully-accused-pirate-recoups-108k-from-copyright-troll-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 11 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wrongfully Accused âPirateâ Recoups $108k From 'Copyright Troll' * TorrentFreak | May 11 09:32 | |
| matey | and that means people will go to greater lengths to create a market for it as a solution | May 11 09:32 |
| techrights-news | Pulitzer Prizes â https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/10/pulitzer_prize_winning_podcast_suave_futuro | Source: Democracy Now | May 11 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Maria Hinojosa, Futuro Media & PRX Win Pulitzer for âSuaveâ Podcast on Prisonerâs Journey to Freedom | Democracy Now! | May 11 09:32 | |
| matey | mass surveillance is like when youre trying to find a needle in a haystack | May 11 09:32 |
| matey | so you decided to take all the hay in the world, and add that to the hay you were already looking in | May 11 09:33 |
| matey | its not efficient. its PROFITABLE | May 11 09:33 |
| matey | its also completely illegal | May 11 09:33 |
| matey | the nsa didnt care about that | May 11 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | May 11 09:33 |
| matey | i mean the mission of the nsa wasnt all wrong | May 11 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | ThomasDrake1 called it fraud and waste | May 11 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | misuse of taxpayers money | May 11 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fraudulent contracts | May 11 09:34 |
| matey | you look at communications for signals that indicate serious threats to the public | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Some surveillance IS needed | May 11 09:34 |
| matey | theyve been doing it for decades | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like OSS pre CIA/NSA | May 11 09:34 |
| matey | yes, some surveillance makes sense | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might end up in a war | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it became an industry | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | every person does some spying | May 11 09:34 |
| matey | and you know what indsustry does | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like checking what the neighbours do | May 11 09:34 |
| matey | it turns everything up to 11 for profit | May 11 09:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case they burn the house down | May 11 09:34 |
| matey | industry and stalin have a lot in common | May 11 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | [tell me all about it meme] | May 11 09:35 |
| matey | the more power they get | May 11 09:35 |
| matey | and they get a LOT | May 11 09:35 |
| matey | the more paranoid they are about protecting it | May 11 09:35 |
| matey | and the more paranoid they get | May 11 09:35 |
| matey | the more dangerous they become to the entire world | May 11 09:36 |
| matey | or at least everything they touch | May 11 09:36 |
| matey | having so much power should put you at ease | May 11 09:36 |
| matey | but thats not what it does | May 11 09:36 |
| techrights-news | MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye â https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog | May 11 09:36 |
| matey | its like if you had a trillion dollars | May 11 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitterâs New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog | May 11 09:36 | |
| matey | youd care more about protecting it (and yourself) than it would ever make your life easier | May 11 09:37 |
| matey | it only takes $10,000 to damage a project like curl forever | May 11 09:37 |
| matey | im not saying thats what happened | May 11 09:37 |
| Techrights-sec | yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation | May 11 09:37 |
| Techrights-sec | at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before | May 11 09:37 |
| matey | but money like that is a liability to small enough project | May 11 09:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | May 11 09:38 |
| techrights-news | EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? â https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF | May 11 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 11 09:39 | |
| techrights-news | "Mickens speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OâBrien about some of the problems inherent in educating computer scientists" â https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-philosopher-king | Source: EFF | May 11 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: The Philosopher King | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 11 09:39 | |
| techrights-news | Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife â https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut | May 11 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Elon Musk Says Heâll Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban âFoolishâ | May 11 09:40 | |
| matey | the way to kill a small simple project is to make it large enough for a corporation to steer it | May 11 09:40 |
| matey | then its fucked | May 11 09:40 |
| techrights-news | Twitter itself is election meddling while foreign-owned | May 11 09:41 |
| matey | but as long as anyone and his mother can fork it | May 11 09:42 |
| matey | the goal is to undo that level of simplicity | May 11 09:42 |
| matey | wget is developed partly on github | May 11 09:43 |
| matey | i can write a replacement in python, in one or two lines, but a lot of websites wont look favourably on it | May 11 09:43 |
| matey | wget is more reliable | May 11 09:43 |
| matey | and yet the maintainers see fit to leverage microsofts efforts at monopoly to develop it | May 11 09:44 |
| matey | which really sends a mixed messge about what gnu stands for (except that it doesnt stand for anything anymore) | May 11 09:45 |
| matey | gnu is important because of what it DID stand for | May 11 09:45 |
| matey | and it did more than any other project, ever. | May 11 09:45 |
| matey | there was never a project that stood for more, and there may not be for some time | May 11 09:45 |
| matey | but that doesnt mean gnu isnt turning its back on its mission | May 11 09:45 |
| techrights-news | Biden and the patents, doing nothing to dismantle the robbery â https://truthout.org/articles/nobel-laureates-and-former-world-leaders-push-biden-to-fund-global-covid-fight/ | Source: TruthOut | May 11 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Nobel Laureates and Former World Leaders Push Biden to Fund Global COVID Fight | May 11 09:46 | |
| matey | also the divide between gnu and fsf is completely artificial | May 11 09:46 |
| matey | the fsf has the copyright, the trademark, the funding, the infrastructure, AND it holds the leader hostage | May 11 09:47 |
| matey | there was this effort to pretend that gnu is separate from the fsf | May 11 09:48 |
| matey | how is it separate? their fates are entirely linked | May 11 09:48 |
| matey | by all of the above and more | May 11 09:49 |
| matey | if the fsf falls, gnu falls | May 11 09:49 |
| matey | and without gnu, the fsf is a joke | May 11 09:49 |
| matey | how can the fsf protect YOUR freedom when they cant even protect their own? | May 11 09:49 |
| mjg59_ | If GNU made a clear argument that they were able and wanted to manage the copyright for GNU code, there's no political way the FSF could say no | May 11 09:50 |
| mjg59_ | And I'd be in favour of that if that's what GNU projects wanted | May 11 09:50 |
| matey | as far as i know, gnu is just a brand | May 11 09:50 |
| matey | and a brand cant hold copyright | May 11 09:50 |
| mjg59_ | There's no meaningful legal entity, but that's fixable | May 11 09:51 |
| matey | or breakable | May 11 09:51 |
| matey | id say the latter is more likely | May 11 09:51 |
| mjg59_ | There's obviously risks associated with taking over responsibilities from a relatively well-funded org | May 11 09:51 |
| mjg59_ | But GNU *could* exist independently, if GNU so chose | May 11 09:51 |
| matey | this is one of those things where | May 11 09:52 |
| matey | on the surface theres absolutely zero wrong with your argument | May 11 09:52 |
| mjg59_ | If there's no existing mechanism for transfer of copyrights in the event of the FSF failing (and that's something I really should have investigated while I was there but didn't, that's on me), that should be fixed | May 11 09:52 |
| matey | i think the reality is that if gnu became independent, it would die an even faster, messier death | May 11 09:53 |
| matey | not because the fsf is protecting it | May 11 09:53 |
| matey | anymore than calculus acts as a barrier between sugary food and a tooth | May 11 09:53 |
| matey | but is itself a product of decay | May 11 09:54 |
| *techrights-news has quit (readQ exceeded (read too many bytes without terminating newline)) | May 11 09:54 | |
| matey | with the fsf holding the umbrella, it will take longer for gnu to be sold off piece by piece | May 11 09:54 |
| matey | without the fsf that will happen even faster | May 11 09:55 |
| mjg59_ | Mm yeah the standard assignment form doesn't discuss this case | May 11 09:55 |
| mjg59_ | That might be worth digging into | May 11 09:55 |
| *techrights-news (~techrights-news@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights | May 11 09:55 | |
| matey | but with the fsf holding the umbrella, gnu will die anyway | May 11 09:55 |
| techrights-news | "There is no such thing as good or bad fortune for the individual; we live in common." gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/05/10/seneca-letter-48.txt | May 11 09:55 |
| matey | as the fate of the fsf is surely the same as the fate of the eff | May 11 09:55 |
| mjg59_ | Going to say, being here helped us almost win the EFF tech trivia contest because I remembered that gopher was on port 70 | May 11 09:56 |
| matey | i used to know that, i ran a gopher server for a while | May 11 09:56 |
| matey | but its been many years | May 11 09:56 |
| matey | and the time that information was useful to me was brief | May 11 09:57 |
| techrights-news | "I think about Nietzsche almost every day. the purpose of capitalism is not even to serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful: even they still serve capital, which has its own irrational logic." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | May 11 09:58 |
| matey | the fate of gnu will be an unhappy one | May 11 09:58 |
| matey | im in favour of salvage and forking | May 11 09:58 |
| matey | the problem is, few will bother | May 11 09:58 |
| matey | and for it to really be gnu, it takes more than numbers | May 11 09:59 |
| matey | theres a quality that is more important than the quantity | May 11 09:59 |
| matey | obviously i dont mean code quality | May 11 09:59 |
| techrights-news | Tech - Raspad - Early Speedbumps gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20220501-Tech-Raspad-Speedbumps.gmi "The bug in the LXDE (?) implemented for Raspberry Pi OS continues to thwart basic touchscreen usage." | May 11 09:59 |
| matey | though its not the worst either | May 11 09:59 |
| matey | the numbers that matter are the people who are interested in killing it outweigh the ones interested in salvaging | May 11 10:00 |
| matey | there are countless people eager to destroy it | May 11 10:00 |
| matey | there are few (by my count rougly zero) interested in saving it | May 11 10:00 |
| matey | thats the math that matters | May 11 10:00 |
| techrights-news | "a computerâs memory map looks pretty smooth and very much byte-addressable at first glance" â https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ | Source: Hackaday | May 11 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Data Alignment Across Architectures: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly | Hackaday | May 11 10:05 | |
| techrights-news | "The WIPO SCCR is a major normative forum, shaping laws and policies that influence access to and sharing of knowledge" â https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/10/creative-commons-condemns-rejection-of-wikimedia-chapters-as-observers-at-wipo-sccr/ | Source: Creative Commons http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO | May 11 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Creative Commons condemns rejection of Wikimedia chapters as observers at WIPO SCCR - Creative Commons | May 11 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights | May 11 10:06 | |
| matey | if gnu is basically stallmans tardis | May 11 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing | May 11 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | in IRC | May 11 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | in twitter | May 11 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fsf.org | May 11 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | about the Twitetr sale | May 11 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side | May 11 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they are STILL on there | May 11 10:08 |
| matey | it will die with him, and if he regenerates, gnu will regenerate with him | May 11 10:08 |
| matey | i realise how glib this sounds | May 11 10:08 |
| matey | if we were take temporary refuge in a world where there were not obviously quite a few people and organisations trying to destroy stallman and his legacy | May 11 10:09 |
| matey | and enter a parallel universe where stallman is still mortal and the fsf still has integrity | May 11 10:10 |
| techrights-news | MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants â https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams | May 11 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade' | May 11 10:10 | |
| matey | you would have a similar (but less complicated version of) the problem we have now | May 11 10:10 |
| matey | of how to make free software LESS mortal than stallman himself | May 11 10:10 |
| matey | AND | May 11 10:10 |
| matey | how to make it more flawless (but not flawless, because nothing is) | May 11 10:11 |
| matey | this problem is made far worse by the number of opportunists at the door | May 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the main issues were solved in 80s and 90s | May 11 10:11 |
| matey | i doubt it | May 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | like communications and information exchange | May 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've improved it for tyranny | May 11 10:12 |
| matey | oh i see what you mean | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | by changing the topology | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | all this clown computing BS | May 11 10:12 |
| matey | indeed | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean.. | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | we could self-host already | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | why go BACK to mainframe?? | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | because[buzzwords] | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | THE ENTERPRISERS | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, CTO of LF just died | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was young | May 11 10:12 |
| matey | /me plays star trek theme | May 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | two kids in age (looks like) ~10 | May 11 10:13 |
| matey | cause of death known? | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | these CTOs are overhyped, but still sad | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | the first LF CTO was Ian Murdock | May 11 10:13 |
| matey | wow | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | then there was Rex from SUSE among many others | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: they spare the details | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | understandable | May 11 10:13 |
| matey | sure | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems very tragic | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | like he died in the event itself | May 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | among colleagues | May 11 10:14 |
| matey | im always curious but sometimes they opt for privacy, i dont blame them | May 11 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on the few words they did use | May 11 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd not ask | May 11 10:14 |
| matey | often we find out a year or more later | May 11 10:14 |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | May 11 10:14 | |
| matey | except with murdock of course | May 11 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | Murdock hang himself on the stair case with the cord of the vacuum cleaner IIRC | May 11 10:14 |
| matey | i mean im not at all satisfied with what we got about that | May 11 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | with his shirt off | May 11 10:14 |
| matey | with two self-inflicted bullet wounds in the back of his head | May 11 10:14 |
| matey | etc etc | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | huh? | May 11 10:15 |
| matey | tropes | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it's ... | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, ok | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | tropes | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, hanging | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was already suicidal to begin with | May 11 10:15 |
| matey | i mean its impossible to hang someone else to look like a suicide, just ask epst-- oh, you cant | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | the police drove him over the edge | May 11 10:15 |
| matey | why was he suicidal? | May 11 10:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "well, he's dead" | May 11 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | "no more questions" | May 11 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | "let's talk about COVID now" | May 11 10:16 |
| matey | usually death creates question, it doesnt answer them | May 11 10:16 |
| matey | but it depends who you ask | May 11 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: sometimes who knew Debbie told me he had been suicidal before | May 11 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that it was prevented or something | May 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't have reasons to doubt that | May 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what he tweeted does contribute to that | May 11 10:17 |
| matey | hmm | May 11 10:17 |
| techrights-news | "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is operating a digital surveillance dragnet through which the agency" â https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/study-reveals-sweeping-extent-ices-secret-surveillance-dragnet | Source: Common Dreams | May 11 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Study Reveals Sweeping Extent of ICE's Secret Surveillance Dragnet | May 11 10:19 | |
| techrights-news | Seattle Times also takes bribes from Famous Criminal, Bill Gates â https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/heres-how-spot-wall-streets-increasingly-infuriating-greenwashing | Source: Common Dreams | May 11 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Here's How to Spot Wall Street's Increasingly Infuriating Greenwashing | Alec Connon | May 11 10:20 | |
| psydruid | > [notice] HP brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu | May 11 10:22 |
| psydruid | HP lost a lot of sales last quarter, so it needs to prop up Windoze. Canonical is complicit in this effort to try to salvage a market that isn't worth salvaging. | May 11 10:22 |
| psydruid | HP lost a lot of sales last quarter, so it needs to prop up Windoze. Canonical is complicit in this effort to try to salvage a market that isn't worth salvaging. | May 11 10:22 |
| matey | data surveillance | May 11 10:22 |
| matey | surveillance science | May 11 10:22 |
| matey | youre against science! | May 11 10:23 |
| matey | im against excess surveillance | May 11 10:23 |
| techrights-news | "Under the blood-soaked stewardship of the Marcos regime, 70,000 warrantless arrests were made, and 4,000 people killed." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/bongbong-politics-rehabilitating-the-marcos-family/ now he's back. Junior uses dad's stolen money to buy power. | May 11 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bongbong Politics: Rehabilitating the Marcos Family - CounterPunch.org | May 11 10:23 | |
| matey | no, its science! | May 11 10:23 |
| matey | the new heathen | May 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha | May 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | exactly | May 11 10:23 |
| matey | ceiling cat knows the terrible things you do | May 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have another term | May 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | "big data" | May 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | me: what data? | May 11 10:24 |
| matey | big data is watching you | May 11 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | them: no more question | May 11 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | [them walking away] me: "but wait, is this EVEN LEGAL??" | May 11 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I leave my job, I'll have some stories | May 11 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | relating to this, too | May 11 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | many firms holding and sharing data they cannot legally share | May 11 10:25 |
| matey | no one ever got fired for choosing google | May 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | while using the "ISO" schtick | May 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: you lose clients over it, though | May 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | like gulag voice not working | May 11 10:25 |
| matey | indeed | May 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | some idiots here tried to replace asterisk with gulag | May 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it went horribly wrong | May 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they won't admit it | May 11 10:25 |
| matey | ive heard-- wait, poor choice of words | May 11 10:25 |
| matey | no ones heard | May 11 10:26 |
| matey | gulag voice: now with heard immunity | May 11 10:26 |
| techrights-news | Kakistocracy redefined: when the LEAST productive workers get paid the MOST â https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/the-outrageous-gap-between-ceo-and-worker-pay/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 11 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Outrageous Gap Between CEO and Worker Pay - CounterPunch.org | May 11 10:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oops | May 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | did we forgot to apply mute? | May 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "lol, real sorry!" | May 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "we forgot to remove this from debug mode" | May 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | https://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chromium-on-debian-is-listening-in-on-your-conversations-484914.shtml | May 11 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google's Chromium on Debian Is Listening In on Your Conversations | May 11 10:27 | |
| techrights-news | Incel Inc. x86 ;-) â https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/is-alito-an-incel/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 11 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Alito an Incel? - CounterPunch.org | May 11 10:28 | |
| matey | it wanted a pair of headphones that dont go in my ear | May 11 10:29 |
| matey | normally i use earbuds of course | May 11 10:29 |
| matey | most had bluetooth | May 11 10:29 |
| matey | i got wired ones | May 11 10:30 |
| matey | but they have a microphone | May 11 10:30 |
| techrights-news | "state of U.S. privacy and user security is arguably pathetic." â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/report-most-mental-health-prayer-apps-have-abysmal-security-and-privacy-standards/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Most Mental Health, Prayer Apps Have Abysmal Security And Privacy Standards | Techdirt | May 11 10:30 | |
| matey | sadly, my laptop supports the mic connector | May 11 10:30 |
| techrights-news | CJEU â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/applying-artificial-intelligence-to-the-copyright-directives-stupid-idea-of-upload-filters/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Applying (Artificial) Intelligence To The Copyright Directiveâs Stupid Idea Of Upload Filters | Techdirt | May 11 10:30 | |
| matey | and its built into the plug | May 11 10:30 |
| matey | now i know what youre thinking, the laptop has a mic anyway | May 11 10:30 |
| matey | it doesnt though, because i removed it | May 11 10:31 |
| matey | so i opened the headphones and removed the mic from those too | May 11 10:31 |
| matey | it was actually pretty easy | May 11 10:31 |
| matey | there was a separate tiny board to hold the mic | May 11 10:31 |
| matey | and two thin wires going to it | May 11 10:31 |
| matey | i twisted and pulled the wires off the solder connections | May 11 10:32 |
| matey | only tool used was a screwdriver | May 11 10:32 |
| matey | the hardest part was getting the foam covers slipped back on | May 11 10:32 |
| matey | i knew that part would be a bitch and it was | May 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | LOL spamnil.. clown shortage | May 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | https://www.tfir.io/how-companies-can-overcome-cloud-skills-shortage-rahul-pradhan-couchbas/ | May 11 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | How Companies Can Overcome Cloud Skills Shortage | Rahul Pradhan, Couchbase - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs | May 11 10:32 | |
| schestowitz | "skills" LOLL | May 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | yeah, we need more people to memorise proprioetary GUIs | May 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | and then join companies | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | and say | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | "shit, I don't know how to manage this thing" | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | "we need CLOWN migration" | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | "let's fork it all over to spying firms" | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | "so I can use their proprietary controls" | May 11 10:33 |
| matey | progress | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | back to the mainframe, folks | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | we got it all wrong | May 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | businesses having servers is nazism | May 11 10:34 |
| matey | and sexist | May 11 10:34 |
| matey | short term, its cheaper to move to the clown | May 11 10:34 |
| matey | long term, having all your data hostage wont affect prices, it cant | May 11 10:34 |
| matey | plus think of the convenience of random companies having unfettered access to all your sensitive data | May 11 10:35 |
| techrights-news | Oh, shit, it looks like ubuntu loco council got cracked again. SPAM posted as articles in their front page again! Last week also: http://techrights.org/2022/05/05/ubuntu-loco-council-crack/ | May 11 10:35 |
| matey | it just makes sense to move to the clown | May 11 10:35 |
| matey | it just makes sense to move to the clown | May 11 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ubuntu LoCo Council Gone Loco or Just Cracked | Techrights | May 11 10:35 | |
| techrights-news | 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164713 | May 11 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] | Tux Machines | May 11 10:35 | |
| matey | if youre in marketing, listen to what bill hicks said to do | May 11 10:36 |
| matey | then do it | May 11 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | "kill yourself" | May 11 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | (he killed himself with smoking) | May 11 10:37 |
| matey | he wasnt in marketing though | May 11 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I loved his skits | May 11 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he died so young | May 11 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | Carlin at least did like 4 decades | May 11 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and each decade he dealt with different thing | May 11 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | from counterculture when he was young | May 11 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | to picking on words | May 11 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and eventually more poltiics | May 11 10:38 |
| matey | carlin died when he stopped being funny | May 11 10:38 |
| matey | dana carvey is still with us | May 11 10:38 |
| matey | i liked garth though | May 11 10:38 |
| techrights-news | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164714 | May 11 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 11 10:38 | |
| matey | dana carvey auditioned for snl with a song that made fun of reo speedwagon. or foreigner. | May 11 10:39 |
| techrights-news | "Laura Loomer still thinks she can sue her way back onto Facebook and Twitter." â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/alt-right-journalist-whos-lost-every-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts-files-another-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alt Right âJournalistâ Whoâs Lost Every Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts Files Another Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts | Techdirt | May 11 10:39 | |
| techrights-news | "News Bargaining Code" â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/why-are-people-blaming-facebook-for-australias-terrible-news-linking-tax-law/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Are People Still Blaming Facebook For Australiaâs Terrible News Linking Tax Law? | Techdirt | May 11 10:39 | |
| matey | it was a song literally about cutting up broccoli | May 11 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | heh | May 11 10:40 |
| matey | but like so many comedians, he stopped being funny when he had kids | May 11 10:40 |
| techrights-news | "resigned sob" â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/cops-are-being-trained-by-consultants-who-have-publicly-outed-themselves-as-bigots-and-far-right-extremists/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cops Are Being Trained By Consultants Who Have Publicly Outed Themselves As Bigots And Far Right Extremists | Techdirt | May 11 10:40 | |
| matey | which is why if i have kids im going to teach them the worst most offensive jokes i can think of | May 11 10:41 |
| matey | and not do any g or pg rated movies | May 11 10:41 |
| matey | not that im a great comedian | May 11 10:41 |
| matey | but its just, kids ruin comedians | May 11 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | stories about them being beaten up | May 11 10:42 |
| matey | no i mean they go full disney | May 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | being funny often requires some offense | May 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you understand what causes laughter and irony | May 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | like jokes about putin | May 11 10:42 |
| matey | robin williams did rv i think | May 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | would they insult people who support putin? | May 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "are you insulting my politics?" | May 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU | May 11 10:43 |
| matey | dana carvey did that one where he plays all these different people in disguise | May 11 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious | May 11 10:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Atkinson: are you INSULT mute people??? | May 11 10:43 |
| matey | and dana carvey played george bush until he became sympathetic | May 11 10:43 |
| matey | which is awful | May 11 10:43 |
| matey | i mean mr bean wasnt mute, he just rarely spoke | May 11 10:43 |
| matey | though selective mutism is a thing, so... | May 11 10:44 |
| matey | it gave him international appeal because you dont have to speak (anything) to get mr bean | May 11 10:44 |
| techrights-news | (broadband=surveillance; you cannot EAT broadband, but wider broadband access enables control over YOU) "This week the Biden administration spent some time celebrating its accomplishments on broadband." â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/team-biden-celebrates-broadband-accomplishments-yet-is-leaving-fcc-nominee-gigi-sohn-hanging-out-to-dry/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Team Biden Celebrates Broadband Accomplishments, Yet Is Leaving FCC Nominee Gigi Sohn Hanging Out To Dry | Techdirt | May 11 10:44 | |
| matey | of course now he champions free speech | May 11 10:45 |
| techrights-news | MusKSA will turn Twitter to dust very fast. If you are STILL posting in Twitter, you are a FOOL. â https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/what-free-speech-elon-musk-endorses-eus-highly-censorial-approach-to-content-moderation-which-twitter-has-spent-years-fighting/ | Source: Techdirt | May 11 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Free Speech? Elon Musk Endorses EUâs Highly Censorial Approach To Content Moderation; Which Twitter Has Spent Years Fighting | Techdirt | May 11 10:45 | |
| matey | because he knows british law is a real threat to comedy | May 11 10:45 |
| matey | and cleese left britain i suppose | May 11 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | singapore | May 11 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like many others | May 11 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | singapore is even worse | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they just wanted a funny place | May 11 10:46 |
| matey | fsvo worse | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | where the former british colonists are treated with special respect | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | *sunny | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not funny | May 11 10:46 |
| matey | im only a fan of their coffee | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | funny also | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but don't get TOO FUNNY in Singapore | May 11 10:46 |
| matey | actually | May 11 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the British-inherited Death Penalty might catch up with you | May 11 10:46 |
| matey | despite the fact that singapore kills people for various offenses like drug smuggling | May 11 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | in singapore people barely get humour | May 11 10:47 |
| matey | comedians there are not very pc, nor do they have to be | May 11 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ones I saw are obedient workers, with rather dry personality | May 11 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | singapore has trh tourism area | May 11 10:47 |
| matey | you didnt know where to look | May 11 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | like some arab countries | May 11 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | to maintain the facade of internationalist | May 11 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | investments, banking, casinos | May 11 10:48 |
| matey | im no fan of singapore | May 11 10:48 |
| matey | just the coffee | May 11 10:48 |
| matey | actually wait | May 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably very expensive | May 11 10:48 |
| matey | lol | May 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | we could not find where to eat | May 11 10:48 |
| matey | not even the coffee | May 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's always expensive | May 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter where | May 11 10:48 |
| matey | the best coffee in the world comes from vietnam | May 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe Little India was a little cheaper... just a little | May 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: Coffee fertilised by Dow Chemicals | May 11 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Monsanto | May 11 10:49 |
| matey | like most | May 11 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | "fertilised" | May 11 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | same process that makes bombs | May 11 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like nukes for energy and for bombs | May 11 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | you just adjust the parameters a little | May 11 10:49 |
| matey | its a breath mint, its a candy mint | May 11 10:49 |
| matey | its chemical fertiliser, its a munition | May 11 10:49 |
| techrights-news | "weird antitrust lore" â https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/09/rest-in-piss-robert-bork/#harmful-dominance | Source: CoryDoctorow | May 11 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 09 May 2022 â Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | May 11 10:50 | |
| techrights-news | Digital Restrictions (DRM) â https://doctorow.medium.com/about-those-kill-switched-ukrainian-tractors-bc93f471b9c8 | | May 11 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doctorow.medium.com | About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors | by Cory Doctorow | May, 2022 | Medium | May 11 10:50 | |
| matey | roundup the usual suspects | May 11 10:50 |
| techrights-news | "As has been the case recently, the Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report." â https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-05-09_haiku_activity_contract_report_april_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS | May 11 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.haiku-os.org | Haiku Activity & Contract Report: April 2022 | Haiku Project | May 11 10:50 | |
| techrights-news | "One major problem is that the AppArmor profiles used to "restrict" snaps make specific assumptions" â https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs | Source: uni Toronto | May 11 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs | May 11 10:51 | |
| techrights-news | "While replacing a Dell running Windows with a Lenovo running Linux sounds tempting for Chinese companies" â https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-orders-government-state-companies-to-scrap-foreign-pcs | Source: Tom's Hardware | May 11 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | China's Government, State-Backed Firms to Scrap Foreign PCs Within Two Years | Tom's Hardware | May 11 10:51 | |
| techrights-news | "Hereâs a few links that have been solidifying this idea in my head as of late" â https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-web-beyond-browsers/ | Source: Jim Nielsen | May 11 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | The Web Beyond Browsers - Jim Nielsenâs Blog | May 11 10:55 | |
| techrights-news | "I know I'm painting a pretty bleak picture, but the reality is that the old web isn't lost." â https://flower.codes/2022/05/08/rediscovering-discovery.html | Source: Zach Flower | May 11 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rediscovering Discovery on the Web | flower.codes | May 11 10:55 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th6czuhh2gauq.irc) has joined #techrights | May 11 11:00 | |
| matey | heh | May 11 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> being funny often requires some offense | May 11 11:02 |
| matey | the amstrad 464 had the power supply in the monitor | May 11 11:02 |
| matey | so you needed two cables from (/to) the monitor but you only needed one going to the wall | May 11 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | Because some of the humor involves taking idiots who want to be wrong with authority and ruining their day and getting them angry at you, and giving zero fucks. | May 11 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | The hallmark of a guy who has lost his argument is that they should just be free of any criticism and that's the end of that. | May 11 11:03 |
| matey | josh simmons | May 11 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | Like Clarence Thomas saying that disagreeing with the "court" means you are "bullying" him. | May 11 11:03 |
| matey | hiding behind the robe | May 11 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | He uses the word "bullying" as if someone was in his high school beating him up, taking his lunch money and giving him a swirly in the boy's room toilet on the way out. | May 11 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | The guy is part of a 9 judge dictatorship that does whatever it wants to and hides behind fences and cops while they get free healthcare and a six figure salary (not counting the bribes). | May 11 11:05 |
| techrights-news | "Game of Trees is a version control system which prioritizes ease of use and simplicity over flexibility." â https://ports.macports.org/port/got/details/ | | May 11 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ports.macports.org | got | MacPorts | May 11 11:05 | |
| DaemonFC | That's how the government works, and people think it's some sacred process established by Jesus Christ personally. | May 11 11:05 |
| matey | scotus and potus are more of a 10 person dictatorship timeshare | May 11 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | They take the government seriously, and that's their first offense. | May 11 11:06 |
| matey | but its a puppet government installed by the corporations anyway | May 11 11:06 |
| matey | with 10 puppets | May 11 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | The only way anyone should take the government seriously is that it can hurt you and it won't feel bad about doing that. | May 11 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | That's "respect" in the same way as "respecting" that a Mexican drug lord can give your family Colombian neck ties if you piss him off. | May 11 11:07 |
| techrights-news | "Iâve been intrigued by the concept of using computers to generate audio for a long time." â https://zach.se/generate-audio-with-python/ | | May 11 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zach.se | Generate Audio with Python - Zach Denton | May 11 11:07 | |
| matey | "thats the rules that i just made up, and im backing it up with this gun that i got from the national rifle association"-- eddie izzard | May 11 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | There's nothing wrong with gun ownership. | May 11 11:07 |
| matey | i agree | May 11 11:08 |
| matey | but hes entitled to have some fun with gun culture | May 11 11:08 |
| techrights-news | "The declaration was signed on the 8th of December 2020 by all EU Member States" â https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/first-report-berlin-declaration-out | Source: Joinup | May 11 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | The first report on the Berlin Declaration is out | Joinup | May 11 11:08 | |
| matey | he was really making fun of colonialism | May 11 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone who isn't an inmate, a convicted felon, certifiably insane, or a sex criminal, should be required by law to have at least one, as well as training. | May 11 11:08 |
| matey | the nra was a deliberate anachronism | May 11 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois says you can't get a FOID card if you're one of those things, and that must surely explain why Chicago is happening. | May 11 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | We have laws, criminals break laws, Dumbfuckcrat Communist Party hopes people aren't smart enough to realize that the crime happens because we're not executing or imprisoning those people, proposes replacing the cops with a social worker. | May 11 11:10 |
| matey | thats not why crime happens | May 11 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | That IS why there is so much crime. | May 11 11:11 |
| matey | no it isnt | May 11 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Hang 'em or put 'em in prison so long they forget their own name, and a lot of that goes away. | May 11 11:11 |
| matey | well, no | May 11 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Well, actually, yeah. | May 11 11:12 |
| matey | what theyre doing is nothing, and thats a problem | May 11 11:12 |
| matey | they do need to actually do something | May 11 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | If it bothers people, then they should have behaved themselves. | May 11 11:12 |
| matey | its not that | May 11 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not calling for, like, the Philippines where you spend 5 years in prison waiting for your trial, however that goes, if you ever get one. | May 11 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not calling for summary execution by the police, like the Philippines has. | May 11 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying arrest the bad guys and when you prove that they did whatever they did, give them what they have coming to them. | May 11 11:13 |
| matey | A 2017 DPIC analysis found that abolishing the death penalty had no measurable effect on murder rates in general or the rate at which police officers are killed, contradicting popular arguments that the death penalty is necessary for public safety and to protect law enforcement officials. | May 11 11:14 |
| matey | there are lower murder rates in places without the death penalty | May 11 11:14 |
| matey | and as they abolish it, murder rates tend to go down | May 11 11:14 |
| matey | the problem with chicago isnt the lack of death penalty | May 11 11:14 |
| matey | i mean thats the fact of it | May 11 11:15 |
| matey | letting murderers roam from and doing nothing, thats a problem | May 11 11:15 |
| matey | roam free | May 11 11:15 |
| matey | i mean if you do nothing to solve a problem, then the problem increases, who do you have to blame | May 11 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. | May 11 11:16 |
| matey | but if you think any solution is a good one, that explains why people still use windows | May 11 11:16 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. <- dont be silly, you stated a casual relationship then when data doesnt support it you pull out post hoc? | May 11 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. And that the death penalty isn't effective because they get to appeal it well past when their guilt has been proven. | May 11 11:17 |
| matey | Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. <- yes, that was covered too. | May 11 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you can determine that if we ban margarine, then nobody will get a divorce. | May 11 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | You'd be wrong, but if you prattle off statistics, that would be the way to solve a huge problem. | May 11 11:17 |
| matey | this isnt intellectually honest | May 11 11:17 |
| matey | the death penalty is going down all over the world | May 11 11:18 |
| matey | the murder rate should be increasing | May 11 11:18 |
| matey | it isnt | May 11 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you look at how stupid the average criminal is....right.... | May 11 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, they try to punch a cop and run away and they think they'll get away. | May 11 11:18 |
| matey | the criminal justice system is just like windows | May 11 11:19 |
| matey | if it works properly, thats a bug, its not by design | May 11 11:19 |
| matey | if it doesnt work properly, thats also a bug, and its by design | May 11 11:19 |
| matey | doing nothing isnt a solution | May 11 11:19 |
| matey | but neither is keeping whats broken and refusing to fix it | May 11 11:19 |
| matey | at best, the criminal justice system is windows xp. | May 11 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | My mom's ex husband's son punched a cop. | May 11 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | From jail, he said..."It's okay, dad, I did some drywall for him so I think I'll be okay.". | May 11 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | The whole cause/effect relationship doesn't exist in the mind of a habitual offender. | May 11 11:21 |
| matey | why would it | May 11 11:22 |
| matey | if youve been in the system youve seen that rules dont apply to anyone | May 11 11:22 |
| matey | and the higher up you get, the less they apply | May 11 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | This is the same guy who, when mom found out his tooth was hurting, gave her dentist appointment to him offered to pay to get it filled because she felt bad for him, and he skipped the appointment and kept sticking tylenol pills in the hole in his tooth. | May 11 11:22 |
| matey | why didnt he go | May 11 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | "It don't hurt....much..." Another tylenol. | May 11 11:23 |
| techrights-news | "I believe that by feeding this unsustainable industry, for instance, replacing our laptops, cell phones" â https://afhub.dev/2022/05/09/technology-is-evolving-too-fast/ | Source: Andre Franca | May 11 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-afhub.dev | Technology is evolving too fast | May 11 11:24 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] "When I called IBM, the company declined to dispute or acknowledge Rolanderâs version" â https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/12/18/cassidy-theres-more-to-the-story-of-software-pioneer-kildall/ | Source: Mercury News | May 11 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mercurynews.com | Cassidy: Thereâs more to the story of software pioneer Kildall â The Mercury News | May 11 11:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Remember when using The Internet was a chore? You had to wait for hours before the one family computer was free" â https://flower.codes/2022/05/07/offline-first.html | Source: Zach Flower | May 11 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Embracing Offline-First Technology | flower.codes | May 11 11:24 | |
| DaemonFC | Stallman compared shedding COVID masks to not brushing your teeth and accepting that you'd lose most of them in a few years. | May 11 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | But people who are missing their teeth because they didn't brush aren't operating on that level, obviously. | May 11 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | They're too dumb to sit down and say "If I do this, that will be the consequence, eventually.". | May 11 11:25 |
| matey | denial goes beyond mere ignorance | May 11 11:26 |
| matey | in the same way that rebar goes beyond just concrete | May 11 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | It's the same mentality with habitual criminals and most people who go deeply into debt who weren't buying food so they wouldn't starve. I'm talking max out the credit cards going to Star Wars land at Disney then go "Who knew the bill would come?". | May 11 11:26 |
| matey | people learn | May 11 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, criminals aren't looking at law books and don't think anything will happen to them, so the punishment, whatever it is, loses some of its preventive effect. | May 11 11:28 |
| matey | if you give them a world thats fucked up and broken | May 11 11:28 |
| matey | theyre either going to find a way to fix it, or theyll possibly become fucked up and broken | May 11 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. | May 11 11:28 |
| matey | but dont expect them to follow the rules if they can see the rules are a liar | May 11 11:28 |
| matey | lie | May 11 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | And then overall crime falls because the people doing it aren't there anymore. | May 11 11:28 |
| matey | The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. <- you notice that im more in favour of an armed citizenry than the death penalty | May 11 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. | May 11 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | To say nothing of the fact that the sooner they get what's coming to them, the less women they impregnate and the less broken homes and bad genes go on to create another crop. | May 11 11:30 |
| matey | You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. <- you could just kill everyone, then there would be no crime | May 11 11:30 |
| matey | but its a bit like amputating a limb when antibiotics are effective | May 11 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | Criminality is partly genetics, and it's partly environmental. It has a lot of causes. | May 11 11:30 |
| techrights-news | "Although most users appear to use TikTok in a non-problematic manner" â https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-addiction-symptoms-study-users-b2072116.html | Source: The Independent UK | May 11 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | New study identifies âTikTok addictionâ and the symptoms that show when users have it | The Independent | May 11 11:31 | |
| matey | your take on it cuts enough corners to be made in the most backwater parts of china | May 11 11:31 |
| techrights-news | "The TikTok algorithm is set up to track viewing habits" â https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/6/23055481/tik-tok-addiction-social-media-mental-health-psychology | Source: Deseret News | May 11 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What are the signs of a TikTok addiction? - Deseret News | May 11 11:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Just like drug abuse. You take a person with an impulse control disorder, and he never even meets his children because they go to a family that adopts them. | May 11 11:31 |
| techrights-news | "It also suggests that the most definitive signs of addiction are that the user become nervous" â https://www.psypost.org/2022/05/new-study-identifies-the-most-definitive-signs-of-tiktok-addiction-63071 | | May 11 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.psypost.org | New study identifies the most definitive signs of "TikTok addiction" | May 11 11:31 | |
| matey | until you understand the problem, youre nearly certain to come up with a pisspoor solution | May 11 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | A higher percentage of them than normal will end up with some sort of impulse control disorder even though they never met their parents. | May 11 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | Why? There's a genetic component to it. | May 11 11:32 |
| matey | thats retarded | May 11 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | There's definitely some truth to "criminal genes". | May 11 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone knows a family like my mom's ex husband's. | May 11 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | Where it's like "Fuck. Everyone who is even SLIGHTLY related to that guy has been in trouble with the law over and over again.". | May 11 11:33 |
| matey | neglect lends itself to personality disorders | May 11 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | Like even cousins, nephews, etc. | May 11 11:33 |
| matey | you dont have to meet your parents to get fucked up by them | May 11 11:33 |
| matey | you dont have to meet your parents to be neglected | May 11 11:33 |
| matey | so why the fuck would that prove a genetic link? | May 11 11:34 |
| techrights-news | ""Apple announced Tuesday that it's discontinuing the iPod Touch â https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-ends-production-iconic-ipod-rcna28190 | Source: NBC | May 11 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Apple ends production of its iconic iPod | May 11 11:34 | |
| matey | keep going and youll prove lumiferous aether too | May 11 11:34 |
| techrights-news | "The iPod Touch going away marks the end of an era." â https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/10/23065412/apple-ipod-touch-canceled-discontinued | Source: The Verge | May 11 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple says the iPod Touch is available âwhile supplies lastâ - The Verge | May 11 11:34 | |
| matey | luminiferous | May 11 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Bad genes are like a curse. Not everyone gets cancer. Some people inherit personality flaws that lead to criminal behavior and serious mental disorders. | May 11 11:34 |
| matey | well, science isnt on your side with this | May 11 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's a a lotto ticket. Some people get all the good genes in the family while their brother got all the bad ones and not a lot else. | May 11 11:35 |
| matey | but have fun progressing from casual racism to eugenics. | May 11 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | Take Bill Clinton for example. | May 11 11:35 |
| matey | ive got better shit to do dr mengele | May 11 11:35 |
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| DaemonFC | Successful two-term president Bill Clinton. Sky high approval rating, even now. | May 11 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's his brother Roger, who has a two mile long criminal record including possession of crack. | May 11 11:36 |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO: "The number of Russian cyber-operations has doubled every month since December, when 15 were reported." â https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/10/russia-seems-to-be-co-ordinating-cyber-attacks-with-its-military-campaign | Source: The Economist | May 11 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia seems to be co-ordinating cyber-attacks with its military campaign | The Economist | May 11 11:37 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO â https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html | Source: IT Wire | May 11 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware | May 11 11:37 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO: "sharing publicly its assessment that Russia launched cyber attacks in late February against commercial satellite communications networks to disrupt Ukrainian command and control during the invasion, and those actions had spillover impacts into other European countries." â https://www.state.gov/attribution-of-russias-malicious-cyber-activity-against-ukraine/ | Source: USDept Of State | May 11 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.state.gov | Attribution of Russiaâs Malicious Cyber Activity Against Ukraine - United States Department of State | May 11 11:38 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO â https://riskybiznews.substack.com/p/risky-biz-news-costa-rica-declares | | May 11 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-riskybiznews.substack.com | Risky Biz News: Costa Rica declares national emergency after ransomware attack | May 11 11:38 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO â https://therecord.media/costa-ricas-new-president-declares-state-of-emergency-after-conti-ransomware-attack/ | Source: The Record | May 11 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Costa Ricaâs new president declares state of emergency after Conti ransomware attack - The Record by Recorded Future | May 11 11:39 | |
| techrights-news | Windows TCO â https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/9/23064321/costa-rica-conti-ransomware-attack-state-of-emergency-reward | Source: The Verge | May 11 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | US State Department announces $10 million bounty after Costa Rica ransomware attack - The Verge | May 11 11:39 | |
| techrights-news | THANK MICROSOFT! Windows TCO â https://www.cyberscoop.com/conti-costa-rica-ransomware-peru-unc1756/ | Source: Scoop News Group | May 11 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Costa Rican president begins tenure with ransomware national emergency declaration - CyberScoop | May 11 11:40 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] "After its direct listing shares skyrocketed to nearly $40, and have now returned to sub-$12" â https://seekingalpha.com/article/4487929-palantir-the-great-reset | Source: Seeking Alpha | May 11 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seekingalpha.com | Palantir Stock: The Great Reset (NYSE:PLTR) | Seeking Alpha | May 11 11:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Without decisive regulations on what data should be considered private" â https://staceyoniot.com/we-need-laws-and-regulations-on-data-use-and-privacy/ | Source: Stacy on IoT | May 11 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-staceyoniot.com | We need laws and regulations on data use and privacy - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis | May 11 11:41 | |
| techrights-news | "injunction against the so-called chat control against Facebookâs parent company" â https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/destruction-of-digital-privacy-of-correspondence-lawsuit-filed-against-chat-control/ | Source: Patrick Breyer | May 11 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | âDestruction of digital privacy of correspondenceâ: lawsuit filed against chat control â Patrick Breyer | May 11 11:41 | |
| techrights-news | Modern New Generation Linux Apps Store Download Now https://linuxstoney.com/modern-new-generation-linux-apps-store-download-now/ | May 11 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modern New Generation Linux Apps Store Download Now - LinuxStoney | May 11 11:53 | |
| techrights-news | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164715 | May 11 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 11 11:53 | |
| techrights-news | Shortwave 3.0 Internet Radio released - LinuxStoney http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164643#comment-33614 | May 11 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shortwave 3.0 Free Radio Player Comes with Support for GNOME 42 | Tux Machines | May 11 11:55 | |
| techrights-news | [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc5 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-May/225772.html | May 11 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc5 | May 11 11:57 | |
| techrights-news | "Panelists at a Heritage Foundation event on Thursday agreed that the government should not make changes to Section 230" â https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/05/leave-section-230-alone-panelists-urge-government/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast | May 11 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Leave Section 230 Alone, Panelists Urge Government : Broadband Breakfast | May 11 12:03 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] "The report veers off course in some of its reform recommendations." â https://reason.com/2022/02/10/the-heritage-foundation-wants-to-break-the-internet/ | Source: Reason | May 11 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | The Heritage Foundation Wants To Break the Internet | May 11 12:03 | |
| techrights-news | Mr. Breton is deeply corrupt, so he's meeting a total fraud â https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-05-09/eu-industry-chief-breton-to-meet-musk-on-free-speech-chips-batteries | | May 11 12:03 |
| techrights-news | "To celebrate Europe Day, join us to learn more about your privacy and data protection rights at our EDPS" â https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications/events/eu-open-day-brussels-3_en | EDPS = a bunch of useless hypocrites http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/edps-farce/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/ | May 11 12:04 |
| techrights-news | Breton is a crook, why does he claim to represent Europe??? â https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/09/tech/elon-musk-twitter-europe-breton-dsa/index.html | Source: CNN | May 11 12:05 |
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| techrights-news | Thierry Breton does nor represent Europe though, he's just an agent of oligarchs (he also worked for the Rothschilds before, then hid that) â https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-industry-chief-breton-meet-musk-free-speech-chips-batteries-2022-05-09/ | Source: Reuters | May 11 12:06 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | May 11 12:06 |
| techrights-news | Two crooks in one room â https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/eu-industry-head-thierry-breton-elon-musk-signal-agreement-on-digital-services-act-332913-2022-05-10 | Source: Business Today | May 11 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesstoday.in | EU industry head Thierry Breton, Elon Musk signal agreement on Digital Services Act - BusinessToday | May 11 12:07 | |
| techrights-news | The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164716 | May 11 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. | Tux Machines | May 11 12:10 | |
| techrights-news | "A Turkish pop singer who on Motherâs Day posted a tweet about the situation of pregnant and sick women" â https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/05/09/p-singer-deletes-solidarity-tweet-for-jailed-women-after-being-targeted-by-oda-tv/ | Source: Turkish Minute | May 11 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.turkishminute.com | Pop singer deletes solidarity tweet for jailed women after being targeted by Oda TV - Turkish Minute | May 11 12:10 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: â âââââââ ââ ââââ ââ ââ ââââ â ââââââââ ââ â â avg(k/sec) 20.96 â IPFS upstream: ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 14.23â swarm size (avg): 480.55 â² | May 11 12:10 |
| techrights-news | PayPal supports militarism â https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/paypal-independent-media-journalism-censorship-tech/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine | May 11 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | PayPal Has Begun Quietly Shuttering Left-Wing Media Accounts | May 11 12:11 | |
| techrights-news | "opponents of free speech never sought to disguise their efforts by portraying their goal as the preservation of the very ideals that they are suborning" â https://www.jns.org/opinion/even-if-theyre-wrong-we-shouldnt-be-trying-to-silence-them/ | Source: JNS | May 11 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jns.org | Even if theyâre wrong, we shouldnât be trying to silence them | May 11 12:11 | |
| techrights-news | "Over the past week, the online payments company PayPal has launched a censorship campaign against independent and left-wing publishers" â https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/04/uofx-m04.html | Source: WSWS | May 11 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | PayPal shuts accounts of anti-war publications Consortium News and MintPress News - World Socialist Web Site | May 11 12:11 | |
| techrights-news | "Mexico, which is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world for journalists" â https://www.axios.com/2022/05/10/11-journalists-killed-mexico | Source: Axios | May 11 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.axios.com | 11 journalists killed in Mexico so far this year | May 11 12:18 | |
| techrights-news | "The attack took place on 3 June in Petit-Couronne, a small town near the city of Rouen." â https://rsf.org/en/tv-cameraman-attacked-while-filming-outside-mosque-northern-france | Source: RSF | May 11 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | TV cameraman attacked while filming outside mosque in northern France | RSF | May 11 12:18 | |
| techrights-news | "As the pandemic pushed our health care system to the brink of collapse" â https://www.thenation.com/article/society/nurses-strikes-labor/ | Source: The Nation | May 11 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Nurses Are Fighting Backâbut the Nightmare Continues | The Nation | May 11 12:21 | |
| techrights-news | "In effect, while Amazon was doubling down on its union busting" â https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/amazon-biden-administration-union-pledge-sanders-bezos-subsidies/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine | May 11 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | Amazon Is Busting Unions. Biden Is Giving Them Huge Federal Contracts Anyway. | May 11 12:21 | |
| DaemonFC | PayPal cuts off payments to a lot of outfits. | May 11 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | If I get money in my PayPal account, I never leave it there for long. | May 11 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | When Elon Musk was there, they pretty much just stole money out of people's accounts and figured they wouldn't get sued as long as it never amounted to much from any one user. | May 11 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | Back to the Future II didn't do a great job with 2015. | May 11 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | We didn't get flying cars, just a lot more potholes. | May 11 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | Doc hands him $50 for a Pepsi. That's 2022. | May 11 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | :-) | May 11 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I got a kick out of the Reagan Max Headroom thing. | May 11 12:48 |
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| techrights-news | Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717 | May 11 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines | May 11 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines | May 11 12:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: âââââ â ââ ââ â âââââââââ ââââââââ â âââââ ââ â avg(k/sec) 18.25 â IPFS upstream: âââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 46.35â swarm size (avg): 393.66 â² | May 11 12:59 |
| techrights-news | So many holes that even Jeffrey Epstein and his BFF, Microsoft's Bill Gates, would be envious. "Check the hole on THAT one..." https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-may-2022-patch-tuesday-seven-critical-vulnerabilities/ | May 11 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft May 2022 Patch Tuesday fixes 7 critical vulnerabilities, 67 others | ZDNet | May 11 13:17 | |
| techrights-news | While MusKSA buy the world's communication platform, along with Zuck... and not a penny for people IN NEED https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2022-05-11-foster-home-founder-caring-for-27-children-in-desperate-need-of-help/ | May 11 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dispatchlive.co.za | Foster home founder caring for 27 children in desperate need of help | May 11 13:19 | |
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| MinceR | 11 064455 < DaemonFC> Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard. | May 11 13:31 |
| MinceR | have Star Trek geeks fought wars over which was better yet? | May 11 13:31 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/beware-children.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/03/may-not-be-old-enough-for-prison-but-still-dangerous/ ) | May 11 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engrish.com | May not be old enough for prison but still dangerous⦠| May 11 13:45 | |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 | May 11 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 | May 11 14:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 | May 11 14:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Jimmy O. Yang Teaches Us Tai Chi - Invidious | May 11 14:16 | |
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| techrights-news | Proprietary Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164718 | May 11 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164719 | May 11 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 14:23 | |
| techrights-news | RISC-V and Raspberry Pi ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164720 | May 11 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC-V and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | May 11 14:23 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164721 | May 11 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More | Tux Machines | May 11 14:23 | |
| techrights-news | Modren and Snaps ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164722 | May 11 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Modren and Snaps | Tux Machines | May 11 14:24 | |
| techrights-news | Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164723 | May 11 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 | Tux Machines | May 11 14:24 | |
| techrights-news | Todayâs ðð¶ð¹ ðð¢ð¤ð©ðªð¯ð¦ð´ Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164724 | May 11 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 14:25 | |
| techrights-news | Springfield isn't the most popular city name in the US gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/10.1 | May 11 14:27 |
| techrights-news | In praise of git-request-pull gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-11.gmi | May 11 14:28 |
| techrights-news | "I'm just about to merge the dev branch of Antenna into production. I'm hoping there won't be any downtime because I'll do it in two steps and it's only CGI scripts (no app server! Yay!)." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-11-upgrading-antenna-today.gmi | May 11 14:29 |
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| techrights-news | "PC tech standards are constantly changing. What can we expect from the next generation of computer hardware?" gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/next-gen-pc.gmi | May 11 14:32 |
| techrights-news | Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 â Core Update 16 | Techrights â http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ | â¾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ | May 11 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 â Core Update 16 | Techrights | May 11 14:35 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/09/gavin-the-grrey-tabby-cat-on-plane/ | May 11 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | Gavin The Talkative Grey Tabby Cat Joins His Human On A Flight â A Twitter Thread | May 11 14:45 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ââ âââ â ââ â âââââ âââ ââ ââââââââââââââ âââââ avg(k/sec) 21.06 â IPFS upstream: ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 34.36â swarm size (avg): 348.15 â² | May 11 14:59 |
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| techrights_guest|44 | Please help me activate my home the tech that was suppose to foot didn't and here I sit with a phone that IÂ paid for and wasn't even the phone I thought I was paying for but even more there's no service can some one here help me? | May 11 15:06 |
| MinceR | what | May 11 15:06 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22050558 | May 11 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0x6c3qorcax81.jpg created on 2022-05-05 22:47:20.433590 | May 11 15:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe weak english, MinceR | May 11 15:36 |
| MinceR | too weak for me to understand | May 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | May 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | incomprehensible almost | May 11 15:36 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not even going to try to guess. | May 11 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I think the third Back to the Future is the best, but it made a big gaffe with the DeLorean. | May 11 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | No car that's been sitting for 70 years would work again with just "a new set of tires". | May 11 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | But I thought it was funny that they put the DeLorean on whitewall tires. | May 11 15:54 |
| MinceR | :> | May 11 15:55 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22050432 | May 11 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/l7rqboluu2x81.jpg created on 2022-05-04 09:32:44.644046 | May 11 15:57 | |
| techrights-news | 5 surprising things I do with Linux ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164725 | May 11 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 surprising things I do with Linux | Tux Machines | May 11 15:57 | |
| techrights-news | Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164726 | May 11 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough | Tux Machines | May 11 15:57 | |
| techrights-news | Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164727 | May 11 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage | Tux Machines | May 11 15:58 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164728 | May 11 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 15:58 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Whitewalls might look okay on my Buick, but they cost a lot of money now. | May 11 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | Not much demand for them. Nobody drives anything classy anymore. | May 11 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | So the market is mostly for classic cars. | May 11 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | This country has gone full on "cheap shit made in Mexico" or China. | May 11 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | Even the cars. | May 11 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | The funnier part than the DeLorean on whitewalls is Dr. Brown buying Marty a very flamboyant looking 1950s retro-futuristic cowboy costume to wear in 1885. | May 11 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Of course, they may have gotten time travel wrong. Marty McFly should have been safe in the past even though he was a relic from a deleted timeline, until he repaired it. | May 11 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | If he is a non-event in the 1955 timeline, then he can't change the past, thus his parents get together like they were meant to, and he exists again. | May 11 16:02 |
| MinceR | time travel in movies usually doesn't make sense | May 11 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Since this creates a paradox where both can't be true, it would be easier to just say that he's created an alternate universe in which he is matter that is an event in the spacetime of that universe from the point that he emerged from the primary universe. | May 11 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Thus, it doesn't matter if he's ever born or not because he'll still exist in the alternate 1955. | May 11 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Worse yet, that means that the Hellish 1985 where Biff screwed up the timeline still exists, otherwise he could not have emerged from it. Which means that alternate 1985 Biff is still there beating and raping his mother, even though Marty no longer exists there. | May 11 16:05 |
| techrights-news | IBM had the audacity to write this while laying off some of its most talented people (and most valuable in the world) because they became "expensive" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/it-hiring-cybersecurity-skills-shortage | May 11 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT hiring: Tackling the cybersecurity skills shortage | The Enterprisers Project | May 11 16:06 | |
| techrights-news | Miseading, false headline https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-not-keeping-location-history/ | May 11 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Facebook Will No Longer Keep Track of Your Location History - Make Tech Easier | May 11 16:07 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM gives virtual badge (like NFT) in exchange for slavery https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-36 | May 11 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-badges.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Badges | May 11 16:07 | |
| DaemonFC | The only part of the timeline that would be canonical to all future timelines would be 1955, up until the point that the original Marty emerged from the primary 1985. Even then, the third movie screws that up because they change things again in 1885. So there are now alternate 1955s leading to alternate 1985s and alternate 2015s. | May 11 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | So Doc Brown is correct in the second movie that 1955 is a nexus that has cosmic significance, until it doesn't anymore, and the nexus point moves to 1885 in the third movie. | May 11 16:08 |
| techrights-news | ICBM promotes outsourcing (clown computing) instead of server ownership and control https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/cloud-strategy-cios-cloud-providers | May 11 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Cloud strategy: What CIOs really want from cloud providers | The Enterprisers Project | May 11 16:08 | |
| DaemonFC | There are now at least 4 variants of 1985. | May 11 16:09 |
| techrights-news | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Announced as the Next-Gen Backbone of Enterprise IT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33616 | May 11 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines | May 11 16:10 | |
| DaemonFC | And the third movie ignores completely that Doc Brown in 1955 learning about everything that would happen in the future would inevitably change his decisions leading up to the accident that sent him to 1885 in the first place, thus negating the need to unbury the DeLorean and go back to 1885. | May 11 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Time travel does not make sense. No. | May 11 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | It may or may not be possible, but even if anyone ever figures it out, it will be too dangerous to consider using. | May 11 16:11 |
| MinceR | it can be made sensible, but that would probably not be good for drama | May 11 16:11 |
| techrights-news | Spamnil is openwashing for IBM. A lot of the Web is nowadays webspam. https://www.tfir.io/call-for-proposals-open-for-open-mainframe-summit-philadelphia-donna-hudi/ | May 11 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | Call For Proposals Open For Open Mainframe Summit, Philadelphia | Donna Hudi - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs | May 11 16:11 | |
| MinceR | just start a new alternate universe for every time travel event | May 11 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | That's what Future Man does. | May 11 16:11 |
| techrights-news | "We donât need to talk about NFTs⦠but on a serious note I think Blockchain is overhyped." https://www.idgconnect.com/article/3659889/cto-sessions-victor-palau-ebury.html | May 11 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idgconnect.com | CTO Sessions: Victor Palau, Ebury | IDG Connect | May 11 16:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Fudderman accidentally creates thousands of tangent universes including one where Osama bin Laden gets his time machine. | May 11 16:12 |
| MinceR | :) | May 11 16:12 |
| techrights-news | ICBM expanding proprietary software alliance https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-05-11-IBM-Transforms-Business-Operations-with-the-RISE-with-SAP-Solution-in-Expanded-Partnership-with-SAP | May 11 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsroom.ibm.com | IBM Transforms Business Operations with the RISE with SAP Solution in Expanded Partnership with SAP | May 11 16:13 | |
| DaemonFC | He then gets punished on a reality TV show by a man named Susan for doing all of this. | May 11 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | And then Osama bin Laden rescues him from Susan. | May 11 16:13 |
| techrights-news | Fedora 36 Woos Developers With Desktop Overhaul, but Will It Please Linus? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33617 | May 11 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines | May 11 16:15 | |
| MinceR | "a very bad Susan indeed." | May 11 16:15 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was driving around in the Buick last week and saw a guy hauling a boat into the gas station. | May 11 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | So I shouted "THERE IT IS!!!! THAT'S MY BOAT!". | May 11 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | (GTA V....Michael) | May 11 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | I randomly quote him and Trevor Philips while I'm driving. | May 11 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | "THIS IS A FINE AUTOMOBILE!" | May 11 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc | May 11 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc | May 11 16:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc | May 11 16:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.snopyta.org | GTA 5 - The Best of Trevor - Invidious | May 11 16:23 | |
| DaemonFC | There is no best of Trevor. Everything is the best of Trevor. | May 11 16:23 |
| MinceR | everyone loves Magical Trevor because the tricks that he does are ever so clever. | May 11 16:24 |
| techrights-news | 10 iPod Competitors That Didnât Make It â https://tedium.co/2022/05/11/ipod-failed-competitors-history/ "Some say it was overdue, some lament that it remains a missed opportunity, but the truth of the matter is, the iPod has left us, after years of neglect." | May 11 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | 10 iPod Competitors That Didnât Make It | May 11 16:25 | |
| techrights-news | Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/top-new-features-red-hat-enterprise-linux-86 | May 11 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 | May 11 16:26 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22050328 | May 11 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/2a5qz99hvhw81.jpg created on 2022-05-03 08:13:11.185002 | May 11 16:28 | |
| techrights-news | Steam snap now available for Linux gamers â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164287#comment-33618 ä· Source: betanews | May 11 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam is Now on the Snap Store â And You Can Help Test It | Tux Machines | May 11 16:29 | |
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| techrights-news | Rocky Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat â https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/11/rocky-linux-developer-ciq-raises-26m-to-recreate-centos-for-enterprises/ ä· Source: venturebeat | May 11 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rocky Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat | May 11 16:30 | |
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| techrights-news | $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make âAnotherâ CentOS ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164729 | May 11 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make 'Another' CentOS | Tux Machines | May 11 16:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Qt 5.15.4 release is a patch release made on the top of Qt 5.15.3. As a patch release, Qt 5.15.4 does not add any new functionality but provides bug fixes and other improvements." https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtreleasenotes.git/about/qt/5.15.4/release-note.md Qt as Free software | May 11 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-code.qt.io | qt/qtreleasenotes.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository. | May 11 16:35 | |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164730 | May 11 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 16:35 | |
| techrights-news | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164731 | May 11 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 11 16:36 | |
| techrights-news | Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/05/11/debian-9-soon-out-of-free-security-support/ | May 11 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raphaelhertzog.com | Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support | May 11 16:38 | |
| XRevan86 | Apparently the weather actually was bad. Oh well. | May 11 16:39 |
| activelow | hitting 30°C beginning of may.. in germany | May 11 16:40 |
| activelow | this is close to a 10°C temperature anomaly; not 1.5°C or similar the propaganda witches agitate for on TV | May 11 16:41 |
| activelow | they imply, 1.5°C anomaly weren't hit yet... when instead we are at 10°C heatup already | May 11 16:42 |
| activelow | furthermore, it isn't a long-term effect, if economy cools down temperatures drop almost instantly (during corona) | May 11 16:42 |
| activelow | and since the "lockdown" ended, temperatures skyrocket again | May 11 16:43 |
| activelow | 10°C above normal, not 1.5°C | May 11 16:43 |
| activelow | can't tell you, how much i hate them, those pseudo eco activists and their lies | May 11 16:43 |
| activelow | another lie of theirs is the implied argument, it was supposedly "germany" at fault | May 11 16:43 |
| activelow | because, UN and similar institutions seek to re-distribute cash | May 11 16:44 |
| activelow | tied to carbon emission budgets, yet those budgets are not intended to cope with "climate change", it is both a cash grabbing taxation scam and redistribution-mechanism | May 11 16:45 |
| activelow | and within germany, it is mostly "west germany" and their demographics, which, whatever this is, isn't what i would recognize as german | May 11 16:46 |
| activelow | and it is them, the west, who cause 90% of emissions | May 11 16:46 |
| activelow | because east-germany already dismantled most of their industry after 1990, except for what could be looted and plundered by KPMG trust fund | May 11 16:47 |
| activelow | anyway, +10°C temperature anomaly; | May 11 16:49 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: â ââââ â ââââââ ââââââââ ââ âââââââââ â avg(k/sec) 21.06 â IPFS upstream: ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 18.50â swarm size (avg): 381.76 â² | May 11 16:59 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/uXLwPGj | May 11 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lutra cat - Album on Imgur | May 11 17:24 | |
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| techrights-news | As long as they use software with NSA back doors (like Windows), they will never be safe https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-joins-partners-release-advisory-protecting-msps-and-their | May 11 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Joins Partners to Release Advisory on Protecting MSPs and their Customers | CISA | May 11 17:49 | |
| bnchs | lol "protecting" | May 11 17:50 |
| bnchs | that's like hiring security guards on a broken door | May 11 17:50 |
| bnchs | fucking dumbasses | May 11 17:50 |
| techrights-news | "MIPS is dead, right? Well, thereâs now very little done on the architecture itself, MIPS (the company) has decided to switch to RISC-V architecture, and unveiled the eVocore product lineup currently comprised of the eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/11/mips-unveils-risc-v-evocore-p8700-and-i8500-multiprocessor-ip-cores/ | May 11 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software | May 11 17:50 | |
| techrights-news | Sounds like proprietary snakeoil doing nonsense, protecting systems having already been breached, as they were outsourced to spy companies https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/11/zerto-product-updates/ | May 11 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Zerto enhances ransomware recovery capabilities to address a wide range of data protection issues - Help Net Security | May 11 17:53 | |
| techrights-news | In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A â https://internetfreedom.in/jua-sc-sedition/ ä· Source: internetfreedom | May 11 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A | May 11 17:54 | |
| techrights-news | "After spending the night in the hostel in Narbonne, I checked my phone for connections to Barcelona. One suggestion was to go from Narbonne to Port-Bou which is just a few kilometers from the border, already in Spain and to continue from there" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-8-perpignan/ | May 11 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jabberhead.tk | Europe Trip Journal â Entry 8: Perpignan â vanitasvitae's blog | May 11 17:55 | |
| techrights-news | [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov â https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220511022751.65540-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ ä· Source: linux | May 11 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov | May 11 17:56 | |
| techrights-news | Khadas VIM 4 SoC Linux Android mini PC first hands on look http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164578#comment-33620 | May 11 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks | Tux Machines | May 11 17:57 | |
| techrights-news | "We decided to cut the release cycle short because of the several security vulnerabilities that were pointed out. See below for details. There are no new features added in this release." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/11/curl-7-83-1-it-burns/ | May 11 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl 7.83.1 it burns | daniel.haxx.se | May 11 18:03 | |
| techrights-news | "Pulseway recently revealed that they had improved functionality for endpoints using macOS and Linux to their RMM solution and deepened the integration to IT Glue. Enterprise Times had the opportunity to get more information about the update when it spoke to Andy Ellwood, VP of Product Marketing at Pulseway." https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ | May 11 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ ) | May 11 18:04 | |
| techrights-news | "Exir EMR is a new open-source EMR solution that aims to manage small clinics. [...]" but sadly a pile of Microsoft PROPRIETARY garbage at the back end, so it's not really "open" https://medevel.com/exir-emr/ | May 11 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Exir EMR is an open-source clinical practice management system | May 11 18:06 | |
| techrights-news | engine | May 11 18:07 |
| techrights-news | "qu3e is a compact, light-weight and fast 3D physics engine in C++. It is has been specifically created to be used in games." https://medevel.com/qu3e-engine/ | May 11 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | qu3e is an open-source 3D Physics engine | May 11 18:07 | |
| techrights-news | Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164732 | May 11 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up | Tux Machines | May 11 18:08 | |
| techrights-news | "It is a self-hosted app which means you can download the code, and run it at your device or remote server." https://medevel.com/flow-habit-tracker/ | May 11 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Flow is an open-source task manager and habit tracker | May 11 18:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Macast application is released under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/macast/ | May 11 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Macast is a mobile-ready DLNA media server | May 11 18:10 | |
| techrights-news | No, do not outsource your comms to Gulag. Doing it from the CLI does not make you a geek, you're still fooled and controlled by the US Empire https://opensource.com/article/22/5/gmailctl-linux-command-line-tool | May 11 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manage your Gmail filters from the Linux command line | Opensource.com | May 11 18:13 | |
| techrights-news | No, IBM is slavery, not freedom https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E6fYPpef19g | May 11 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Fedora 36 overview | Welcome to Freedom. - Invidious | May 11 18:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious â https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GuCLBzzmsoU ä· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | May 11 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious | May 11 18:15 | |
| techrights-news | Clown computing = security breach, untrusted host. Intel, you get a zero or a one. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Project-Amber | May 11 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Announces "Project Amber" For Verifying The Trustworthiness Of Clouds - Phoronix | May 11 18:17 | |
| bnchs | lol | May 11 18:18 |
| bnchs | "trustworthiness of clouds" | May 11 18:18 |
| bnchs | as if you UNIRONICALLY PUT YOUR PRIVATE DATA IN A REMOTE SERVER | May 11 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | trust intelk | May 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the champion of security | May 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | totally not connected to the US regime! | May 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | The most deadly regime in human civilisation | May 11 18:20 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164733 | May 11 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/ | May 11 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law â Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights | May 11 18:20 | |
| techrights-news | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164734 | May 11 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 11 18:26 | |
| psydruid | > [notice] www.cnx-software.com | MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software | May 11 18:26 |
| psydruid | https://lwn.net/Articles/838807/ | May 11 18:26 |
| psydruid | https://lwn.net/Articles/838807/ | May 11 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The future of 32-bit Linux [LWN.net] | May 11 18:26 | |
| techrights-news | Software: Hamza Musaâs Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164735 | May 11 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Hamza Musa's Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 | Tux Machines | May 11 18:27 | |
| techrights-news | NSA et al would not simply advise people and businesses to abandon Microsoft software with NSA back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/microsoft-releases-may-2022-security-updates | May 11 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Microsoft Releases May 2022 Security Updates | CISA | May 11 18:28 | |
| techrights-news | About 70 Microsoft holes? So what... that's NOTHING. Love, CISA/NSA. | May 11 18:29 |
| techrights-news | Many groups are unrepresented in tech. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ | May 11 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi | May 11 18:33 | |
| techrights-news | Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164736 | May 11 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree | Tux Machines | May 11 18:34 | |
| techrights-news | VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164737 | May 11 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding | Tux Machines | May 11 18:34 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary F5 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-f5-big-ip-vulnerability-exploited-to-wipe-devices/ | May 11 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Critical F5 BIG-IP vulnerability exploited to wipe devices | May 11 18:34 | |
| techrights-news | A correct headline would have said CISA Adds Microsoft Windows Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog see http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_Windows | May 11 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA | May 11 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Call Out Windows - Techrights | May 11 18:36 | |
| techrights-news | Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://access.redhat.com/announcements/6957288 | May 11 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-access.redhat.com | Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 - Red Hat Customer Portal | May 11 18:38 | |
| techrights-news | Rust is not about security, it is about depending on Microsoft's proprietary malware delivery system, GitHub, controlled by the NSA https://lwn.net/Articles/894808/ | May 11 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The malicious "rustdecimal" crate [LWN.net] | May 11 18:39 | |
| techrights-news | RHEL 8.6: Whatâs new and #HowTo upgrade | Red Hat Developer â https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/11/rhel-86-whats-new-and-how-upgrade ä· Source:< ICBM | May 11 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | RHEL 8.6: What's new and how to upgrade | Red Hat Developer | May 11 18:40 | |
| techrights-news | IBM pushing "clown" instead of the real thing, server https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/catalyzing-ecosystem-co-creators-cloud | May 11 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Catalyzing an ecosystem of co-creators for the cloud | May 11 18:41 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Debacles ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164738 | May 11 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Debacles | Tux Machines | May 11 18:41 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164739 | May 11 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements | Tux Machines | May 11 18:41 | |
| techrights-news | IBM targets suits to bypass geeks. Wright knows how to do that... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-cios-can-build-future-they-want-open-source | May 11 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How CIOs can build the future they want with open source | May 11 18:43 | |
| bnchs | schestowitz-TR, the "cloud" (like marketing term for a VPS) is good for only one thing, and that is hosting a website or a instance that is meant to be accessed publicly | May 11 18:43 |
| bnchs | anything else, you can invest in a physical machine | May 11 18:43 |
| techrights-news | MusKSA seeking to destabilise USA Inc. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220510-elon-musk-says-he-would-lift-twitter-ban-on-trump | May 11 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | Elon Musk says he would lift Twitter ban on Trump | May 11 18:43 | |
| techrights-news | VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times â https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/electronics/uncert-in-times-for-vpn-services-providers-in-india/articleshow/91454501.cms ä· Source: economictimes | May 11 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times | May 11 18:44 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/ice-is-a-domestic-surveillance-agency.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ | May 11 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ICE Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency - Schneier on Security | May 11 18:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights | May 11 18:45 | |
| techrights-news | If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter you are helping MusKSA (people who behead women and chop, then cook journalists). Coming next: releasing a criminal who incites other criminals to attack US government buildings. | May 11 18:47 |
| techrights-news | CloudReady 86.4.86 18:12 from Neverware is out https://www.neverware.com/ | May 11 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neverware | May 11 18:49 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter isn't a social network, it's a crime network. It helps Jeffrey Epstein's network. It's also foreign owner and serves to further destabilise the US and -- by extension -- the world. Twitter has NO SJWs because IF they STILL post in Twitter, they actively ATTACK social justice. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ | May 11 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights | May 11 18:50 | |
| techrights-news | If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter, you are part of the problem. Yes, you too, EFF and FSF (the FSF already admitted you need proprietary software to use Twitter; since 1.5 years ago). | May 11 18:51 |
| techrights-news | Red Hat Linux to drive General Motorsâ Ultifi vehicle operating system â https://thestack.technology/red-hat-linux-vehicle-operating-system-general-motors/ ä· Source: thestack | May 11 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thestack.technology | Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors' Ultifi vehicle operating system | May 11 18:54 | |
| techrights-news | iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740 | May 11 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines | May 11 18:56 | |
| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCâs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge â https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-restoring-ftcs-authority-to-return-money-to-ripped-off-consumers/ ä· Source: publicknowledge | May 11 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCâs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge | May 11 18:57 | |
| techrights-news | "The EEOC specifically outlines questions relating to an applicant's disability that cannot be asked before a job offer is made, such as: Do you have any mental or physical disabilities? Do you take prescription drugs? Have you ever filed a workersâ compensation claim?" https://www.fosslife.org/questions-job-interviewers-are-not-allowed-ask | May 11 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Questions Job Interviewers Are Not Allowed to Ask | May 11 18:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | â IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ââââ â âââââ ââ â â ââ â âââââ âââ âââââââ ââââ avg(k/sec) 40.28 â IPFS upstream: ââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ avg(k/sec) 9.73â swarm size (avg): 537.98 â² | May 11 18:59 |
| techrights-news | Simon Bisson is scattering Microsoft propaganda under headlines with the word "Linux" on them. IDG isn't a news site. It's a Microsoft operatives' network/hive. | May 11 18:59 |
| techrights-news | Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf/brian-behlendorf-testifies-open-source-software-security/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/ | May 11 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology - Linux Foundation | May 11 19:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on âOpen Sourceâ Security | Techrights | May 11 19:01 | |
| techrights-news | IDG redefines "backdoor"; it's not when Microsoft puts back doors there for US spy agencies but when a system gets breached for some reason and then the intruder installs something https://www.csoonline.com/article/3659802/stealthy-linux-implant-bpfdoor-compromised-organizations-globally-for-years.html | May 11 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Stealthy Linux implant BPFdoor compromised organizations globally for years | CSO Online | May 11 19:02 | |
| techrights-news | I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno â https://peppe8o.com/i2c-based-oled-132x64-interfaced-with-arduino-uno/ ä· Source: peppe8o | May 11 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno | May 11 19:06 | |
| techrights-news | This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog â https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/11/this-special-front-door-controller-has-several-ways-to-unlock-it/ ä· Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | May 11 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog | May 11 19:06 | |
| techrights-news | Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164741 | May 11 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux | Tux Machines | May 11 19:07 | |
| techrights-news | Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164742 | May 11 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller | Tux Machines | May 11 19:08 | |
| techrights-news | Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS!!! What on Earth is going on? | May 11 19:11 |
| techrights-news | Years ago Steven Vaughan-Nichols became not a journalist but a stenographer fore sponsors | May 11 19:13 |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164743 | May 11 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 19:14 | |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164744 | May 11 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 19:15 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights â http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ | â¾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ | May 11 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights | May 11 19:32 | |
| techrights-news | It looks like SPAMnil is now buying youtube 'views', but it's hard to prove. | May 11 19:34 |
| techrights-news | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164745 | May 11 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 11 19:34 | |
| techrights-news | Todayâs ðð¶ð¹ ðð¢ð¤ð©ðªð¯ð¦ð´ Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164746 | May 11 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 19:34 | |
| techrights-news | My Favorite Modules: Errno http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/05/my-favorite-modules-errno.html | May 11 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Favorite Modules: Errno | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] | May 11 19:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Orange is a super lightweight open-source desktop search engine that allows you to search for and inside your local files and folders. Its compact tiny size because it is written using Tauri; a revolutionary Rust-based framework for building desktop using web technologies." https://medevel.com/orange-file-search/ | May 11 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Orange is an open-source fast desktop search engine | May 11 19:42 | |
| techrights-news | "Lios stands for "Linux-Intelligent-Ocr-Solution" which is an open-source, free OCR solution that converts any text in image, PDF into a readable text." https://medevel.com/lios-ocr/ | May 11 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Lios is properly the best open-source Linux OCR | May 11 19:43 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120254 | May 11 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wjjaqmzuk0021.jpg created on 2018-12-02 23:39:43.673242 | May 11 19:47 | |
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| MinceR | https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6 | May 11 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.chriszacharias.com | A Conspiracy To Kill IE6 | May 11 20:17 | |
| techrights-news | Docker Desktop for Linux Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717#comment-33624 | May 11 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines | May 11 20:38 | |
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| techrights-news | [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions https://reviews.llvm.org/D125319 | May 11 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reviews.llvm.org | â D125319 [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions | May 11 20:38 | |
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| activelow | EU introduced legislation: all service providers (google, etc) _must_ scan _all_ user data for illegal material | May 11 20:47 |
| activelow | with the argument, to protect children... here we go again: | May 11 20:47 |
| activelow | 1) child abuse almost always occurs among relatives, regardless of any internet activity | May 11 20:47 |
| activelow | 2) if child abuse was the concern, then the social surroundings of children were subject to official intervention, regardless of any internet activity | May 11 20:48 |
| techrights-news | But KDB is 1) NOT a striker. 2) this is AWAY match. "24 - Kevin De Bruyne's hat-trick within 24 minutes is the third earliest scored from the start of a match in Premier League history, after Sadio Mane v Aston Villa in May 2015 (16 mins) and Dwight Yorke v Arsenal in February 2001 (22). Incredible." | May 11 20:48 |
| activelow | 3) spying on _all_ user data will probably be ineffective | May 11 20:48 |
| activelow | 4) spying on _all_ users including those who did not commit any crime is a most severe violation of constitutional rights | May 11 20:49 |
| activelow | 5) spying for whatever cause is prone to abuse | May 11 20:49 |
| activelow | conclusion, the argument to justify spying is a invalid, if EU or any other bureaucratic entity intended to protect children, then first and foremost relatives and social surroundings of children must be taken care of, always | May 11 20:51 |
| activelow | conclusion, the EU order google etc. must spy on _all_ user data probably shall serve other interests involved | May 11 20:51 |
| psydruid | maybe the EU wants to be forced to get dissolved | May 11 20:51 |
| activelow | given the fact, EU is the most corrupt bureaucratic in history | May 11 20:52 |
| activelow | their lies and propaganda are excessive; and the recent EU order is a most severe violation of all constitutions of EU members | May 11 20:52 |
| *activelow sharpens his knive | May 11 20:52 | |
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| activelow | baphometos will not spie on users | May 11 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, A bullshitcoin "pegged to the dollar" fell to be worth less than 25 cents. | May 11 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 11 20:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | \what was it before? | May 11 20:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | like peak? | May 11 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | "Don't hold Dollars, HODL these!" | May 11 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: no, it goes like this | May 11 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if it's pegged 1:1 it can never be worth much more or less than $1 USD, however it's now 4 USTs to the Dollar. | May 11 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "DOLLARS SUCK!!" | May 11 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "GIVE ME DOLLARS!!!" | May 11 20:54 |
| bnchs | dollars suck | May 11 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I will give you THIS" | May 11 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | So really it's not pegged and people who thought it was just got pegged. | May 11 20:54 |
| bnchs | here's this fake coin | May 11 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | pay for IN DOLLARS for it | May 11 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, because you put $100 or whatever in and then the thing that's a "stablecoin" is only worth $25 now, so you lose $75 per $100 you "invested". | May 11 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Be sure to report to the IRS what an idiot you are. | May 11 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Yeah, I bought 10,000 USTs on a cost basis of $10,000 and sold them for $2,500, lost $7,500, and would like to report one hell of a loss. I am also paying more so TurboTax will include one more form on my e-filing.". | May 11 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I sold some Treasuries and bought new ones. | May 11 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | The old ones weren't going to adjust to the now current rate for 6 more months, so it was more beneficial to sell them for 10 months worth of interest after holding them for 12 months and anticipate that inflation will continue to pick up and start racking up the 9.68% right away so they'll adjust when the inflation figure goes up again. | May 11 20:59 |
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| XRevan86 | When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on. | May 11 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | The outside-of-Russia perspective is going to be different as people outside won't have to live in the ruins that Putin will leave behind. | May 11 21:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ukraine has ruins left by Putin as well, and much more literal ones, but the future isn't as bleak for it. | May 11 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on. | May 11 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Well, yeah. It costs the Russians $3-5 million per tank, and you can blow up the tank with a $200,000 missile. And we're GIVING them the missiles so we can sit back and go LULZ when they blow up all those $3-5 million Russian tanks. | May 11 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes not even a $200,000 missile. | May 11 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Those switchblade drones don't cost much, but they can take out a tank, they can swoop down and blow up some Russian troops while they're sleeping, they can take out APCs... | May 11 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | If the Russians are stupid enough to dock one of their ships at port or be close to the shore, you can use suicide drones on those too. | May 11 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | You may not sink the ship, but you can do some damage. | May 11 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | ohoo | May 11 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | stupid american[r] | May 11 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | until putin gets fed upo | May 11 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and starts dropping nukes on nations | May 11 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and americans grab popcorn | May 11 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then nukes start falling on them too | May 11 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: That's a very Usonian view on this, cost-effectiveness of the US investments :). | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | this us proxy war is insane | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and biden feeds it | May 11 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the Russians are losing very badly. | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have nukes | May 11 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | They haven't made any gains that are worth what they've lost. | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | stop bragging | May 11 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | And they won't. | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | you just repeat propaganda lies | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and corporate media jingoism | May 11 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | many ukraine citizens dioe | May 11 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Nuke-scaremongering is a Russian propaganda tactic. | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | us uses them as cannon fodder | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | even leftists in ukraine say this | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of working towards peace | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | like lula (brazil) said | May 11 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But Putin didn't dare to mention nukes even once on May 9th. | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need to end this war | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | by all means possible | May 11 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Propaganda? No. The Russians are so fucking dumb that they dig up a radioactive forest in Chernobyl that turns them inside out and then retreat back into Belarus to go to the hospital. | May 11 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I mean talk about fucking DUMB. | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | bbl | May 11 21:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's off topic anyway | May 11 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Let's dig a trench right next to the worst nuclear disaster in history that everyone knows about. | May 11 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "instead of working towards peace" <- I'm going to try to find you a response Putin gave to a proposition of peace negotiations. | May 11 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Herr derr | May 11 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | The Russians should not be allowed near anything that has the word "nuclear" in it. | May 11 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Every time they are, it ends badly. | May 11 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so what is the alternative, XRevan86? | May 11 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to "win" the war? | May 11 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody wins awar | May 11 21:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | meanwhile tons of people die | May 11 21:21 |
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| schestowitz-TR | with damages in the hundreds of billions to "p[roperty" | May 11 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | There was almost a mutiny aboard the K-19 because so many of the crew were dying that they thought about defecting to a nearby American ship to be towed to port and offered medical assistance. | May 11 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Putin's view on peace is surrender. | May 11 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | And that wasn't even the only disaster on that particular ship. | May 11 21:22 |
| tux | K-19 ? is that covid in russian? | May 11 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Unless Ukraine is willing to surrender, the war will continue. | May 11 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | It was a poorly-built Russian nuclear submarine. | May 11 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And they're not willing. Therefore⦠| May 11 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | The politicians sent it out without a shakedown to make a point to the United States that they had it. | May 11 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | And that was the first disaster in regards to that ship. | May 11 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | It killed many people during its time in service and was said to be "cursed". | May 11 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | US profits from it | May 11 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | no damage to itself | May 11 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | just sales | May 11 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the us taxpayers gets poorer | May 11 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and homeless | May 11 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | The Russians always cut corners when it comes to nuclear safety and then they get a disaster, or multiple disasters. | May 11 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | They proved that they can't handle nuclear power because they're incompetent and cheap. | May 11 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | And their government has a habit of simply classifying the design defects and punishing anyone who won't cooperate with the cover-up. | May 11 21:25 |
| tux | its topdown incompetence | May 11 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | The US nuclear incidents have tended to be mild because our stuff was designed to fail safe. | May 11 21:25 |
| tux | i think the ukarainians mafe russia a favor killing off that many generals | May 11 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | If this happens, there are several reasons why it won't explode and spew out the core material. | May 11 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | That sort of thing. | May 11 21:26 |
| tux | then they had to get the only reall battel proven general from siria | May 11 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | The Russians were doing core dumps before it was cool. | May 11 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | (In fact, it was quite hot.) | May 11 21:27 |
| tux | russians are running linux mining rigs on their nuclear stations | May 11 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | People like Putin are good at hiding under their desks and getting a lot of other people killed. | May 11 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not much else. | May 11 21:28 |
| tux | donald trump learned alot from putin | May 11 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | The Iranians are resorting to Bitcoin Tulip Mania because of sanctions. | May 11 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | As are the North Koreans. | May 11 21:29 |
| tux | putin is the best at fake news trump is only an apprentice | May 11 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/lavrov-in-esclusiva-su-zona-bianca-russia-non-ha-mai-smesso-dialogo-per-evitare-guerra-mondiale_49548127-202202k.shtml Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergiey Lavrov: "Zelensky can bring peace if he stops giving criminal orders to his Nazi battalions and makes them stop fighting" | May 11 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tgcom24.mediaset.it | Lavrov in esclusiva su "Zona Bianca": "Russia non ha mai smesso dialogo per evitare Guerra Mondiale" | May 11 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | What's beginning to unfold in "stablecoins" which actually aren't stable at all, go figure, is the beginning of the end. | May 11 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | That's from May 1st | May 11 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | People lose confidence, they aren't backed by any sort of real economy. | May 11 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Remove the fluff and read: "peace if they stop fighting". | May 11 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | People realize that it's actually not so easy to hide from the Treasury and do illegal things with them, which is part of the "confidence" they had before. | May 11 21:30 |
| tux | DaemonFC is another fake news believer | May 11 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | So they will lose all or most of their value. | May 11 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules what⦠| May 11 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules: NVIDIA Linux open GPU kernel module source | May 11 21:31 | |
| tux | this war will end once ukarania takes over russia | May 11 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Bitcoins have lost well over half their peak value in less than 8 months. | May 11 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | How does that happen? Well, I'll tell you, simply, how that happens. | May 11 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | They were fake and the only value that had was whatever those idiots like my sister-in-law agreed they had. | May 11 21:32 |
| tux | bitcoins are geting harder to mine | May 11 21:32 |
| tux | thats why | May 11 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | That's part of it too, but there's also a blood bath in other "stable" coins that are slightly inflationary in nature, not deflationary. | May 11 21:33 |
| tux | nvidea isnt making as much selling minig powerhouses | May 11 21:33 |
| tux | so bitcoin drops | May 11 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Good. | May 11 21:33 |
| tux | bitcoin has been being backed by GFX cards companies | May 11 21:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There is thought that the PRC explained to Putin that nuclear threats are not their kind of jam. | May 11 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | The only things that I have heard about that Bitcoin was thought to be really handy for was.....drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. | May 11 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | So MARISOL deserves to lose everything. | May 11 21:34 |
| tux | but thats a secret so dont tell it out loud | May 11 21:34 |
| tux | who is marisol? | May 11 21:34 |
| tux | drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. looks like a CSI episode | May 11 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | My sister-in-law, but humorously misspelled and in all caps because some cancer patient at her hospital left a very long review calling her incompetent and with no bedside manner. | May 11 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | "I am beloved by all my patients! A legend in my own mind!" | May 11 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | "I am important! I drive terrible German car! Rahahaahahaha!!!!" | May 11 21:36 |
| *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | May 11 21:36 | |
| tux | who gives a shit about your personal shit? | May 11 21:37 |
| tux | get a shrink and talk about it with him | May 11 21:37 |
| tux | or a priest or bartender | May 11 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | I told my mom I named the Impala "Muffy". She asked why I call it that. I said, "In the James Bond movie, Goldeneye, he meets a contact living in Saint Petersburg who drives an old Lada that barely works that he has to start with by tapping the starter motor, and he says "It's an ugly little bitch, but it gets me where I need to go.". Bond asks, "Muffy?" because he sees a tattoo on the guy's butt cheek while he's trying to get the Lada to work, | May 11 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | and he says "Third wife.". | May 11 21:38 |
| tux | Ignoring DaemonFC | May 11 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | My Buick will be out of the body shop in a couple days, and I drop "Muffy" off again to get some electrical and air conditioning problems sorted out. | May 11 21:39 |
| tux | fuck you and your bs | May 11 21:39 |
| tux | stop spamming crap | May 11 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR gets a kick out of "MARISOL". | May 11 21:39 |
| tux | fucking trump chatbots | May 11 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Because she's sort of a code word for a vicious psychopath who defines their value solely by the accumulation of things, and ends up racking up enormous debts trying to impress other people, who don't matter. | May 11 21:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | tux: many people mute him | May 11 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | he doesn't care | May 11 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to make MARISOL a thing. Like "Karen". | May 11 21:41 |
| tux | i dont think its a real person | May 11 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | She is. | May 11 21:42 |
| tux | its a spambotr | May 11 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, me. | May 11 21:42 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights â http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ | â¾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ | May 11 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights | May 11 21:43 | |
| DaemonFC | I was just stunned at the sheer level of waste going on in that house. You could run 6 households on a normal budget on the amount of money these two waste. | May 11 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | And they're not rich, they just rack up debt, get sued, and have to work 70 hour weeks for debt service. | May 11 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Then they brag about how much and how hard they work, like that's anything to be PROUD of. Why the fuck should you want to work so you can pour the effort directly into the toilet and have no time? | May 11 21:44 |
| tux | putin is running out of conventional weapons | May 11 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's a psychological decompensation method to help truly hopeless people cope. "I work hard! I have things! I work so hard I don't enjoy the things. But I have things so I can enjoy them so I can work so hard I can't enjoy them!". | May 11 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's not logical. It does not follow. | May 11 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | I was talking about temporal paradoxes with MinceR earlier. These people are just as bad. | May 11 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Working and having things are irreconcilable at a certain point. | May 11 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | You have a sports car that dry rots in your garage, because you work seven days a week, and have no time to drive it. | May 11 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | The unexamined life. | May 11 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | But this is how the rich want people to think they should live. | May 11 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | The last thing they want is people going "If we can stretch our budget by cutting spending, then we can work less and do more things we want to do, free of debt!". | May 11 21:48 |
| techrights-news | KDB already added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England | May 11 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of players with the most goals in an association football game - Wikipedia | May 11 21:49 | |
| techrights-news | AFAIK, nobody ever scored 5 goals in one AWAY PL match https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England | May 11 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Is the queen back from her light duties so she can cost you an enormous amount of money to wave? | May 11 21:50 |
| tux | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1879016/ > MinceR | May 11 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Operation Mincemeat (2021) - IMDb | May 11 21:52 | |
| tux | MinceRatMeat | May 11 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-open-kernel&num=1 | May 11 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Transitioning To Official, Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Driver - Phoronix | May 11 21:54 | |
| tux | NVIDIA finally toke linus finger off its ass | May 11 21:56 |
| tux | that was joke | May 11 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support. | May 11 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | May 11 21:57 |
| tux | XRevan86 is gona throu the book at me | May 11 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | Which past two decades I wonder. | May 11 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | " Their user-space software is remaining closed-source but as of today they have formally opened up their Linux GPU kernel modules and will be maintaining it moving forward." | May 11 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | So there is no end-to-end usable open source driver stack and Microsoft Larabel is just shitposting again. | May 11 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: This is a significant move even if yet incomplete. | May 11 21:59 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Fedora 36." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tfEbpBkqhjI | May 11 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Fedora 36 Run Through - Invidious | May 11 21:59 | |
| tux | https://i.redd.it/b8dnk9lu33631.jpg | May 11 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's up to the nouveau folk to figure out just how useful this is. | May 11 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's less of the stack that other people have to figure out through reverse engineering and get wrong. | May 11 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | But you won't be able to run games and stuff on it. | May 11 22:00 |
| mjg59_ | XRevan86: Oh, having redistributable firmware for Turing and later is already a huge win for nouveau | May 11 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | mjg59_: Of course. | May 11 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | mjg59_: What I mean is just how comparable it is to amdgpu. | May 11 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | potentially | May 11 22:01 |
| mjg59_ | It doesn't have a stable userland ABI | May 11 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | The win for the user is ripping out the Nvidia card or not buying one to begin with. | May 11 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | And using a real solution instead. | May 11 22:01 |
| mjg59_ | So nouveau can't really just target this kernel driver | May 11 22:01 |
| mjg59_ | And nor can the nouveau driver be modified to work with the closed userland driver | May 11 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | mjg59_: Not *yet*. | May 11 22:01 |
| techrights-news | FLOSS Weekly 680: Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware - Hector Martin, Linux on Macs https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/680 | May 11 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware | May 11 22:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Maybe mjg59_ is fine with fucking crap that crashes the kernel and causes the keyboard to randomly be forgotten by libinput. | May 11 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Who knows? | May 11 22:01 |
| mjg59_ | Well, not until nvidia commit to providing a stable ABI | May 11 22:02 |
| techrights-news | "Hello and welcome to the 466th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-466-hamanon-3/ | May 11 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #466: HamAnon | Linux in the Ham Shack | May 11 22:02 | |
| mjg59_ | DaemonFC: I own precisely 0 nvidia GPUs for a good reason | May 11 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_, They have done absolutely nothing so far that makes me think that they are able or willing to write stable production-quality code like AMD or Intel provide. | May 11 22:02 |
| techrights-news | "NVIDIA has announced its plans for an open-source GPU driver." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148537/linux-action-news-240/ | May 11 22:03 |
| mjg59_ | Can you point to the bit where I said I thought this was good code? | May 11 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 240 | Jupiter Broadcasting | May 11 22:03 | |
| mjg59_ | Or are you just making things up again? | May 11 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, easing the pain of using crap is not great, no. | May 11 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | So you actually did imply that. | May 11 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's like Dr. Frank-N-Furter saying he'll cure some of the symptoms, but not the disease. | May 11 22:03 |
| techrights-news | Christian Schaller: Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/ | May 11 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? | Christian F.K. Schaller | May 11 22:04 | |
| XRevan86 | One simple concern I have about this is that NVIDIA's GPU have (had?) a blob check, how is that issue going to be addressed? | May 11 22:04 |
| CrystalMath | any chance of CUDA with fully open source systems? | May 11 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Oh mjg59_ is a big fan of being locked out of the computer unless you use blessed binaries that can disable features and run malware. | May 11 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | "an out of tree source code kernel driver which has been tested to support CUDA usecases on datacenter GPUs" | May 11 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm sure NoVideo's signed firmware check is something he likes. | May 11 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | Sounds extremely relevant to this conversation. | May 11 22:07 |
| mjg59_ | XRevan86: They verify the firmware, not the driver | May 11 22:07 |
| techrights-news | NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164747 | May 11 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines | May 11 22:07 | |
| mjg59_ | XRevan86: Previously it was possible to extract the firmware from nvidia's closed driver, but nvidia refused permission to redistribute it | May 11 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | So it was something you could provide a script for and have the user do. | May 11 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've been there before, with another infamously crap company. Broadcom. | May 11 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | They were a bunch of fucking jerks too, like Nvidia. | May 11 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Again, avoid if possible. | May 11 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Unless a free laptop that just happened to have an Nvidia GPU in it landed in my lap from a contest or something, I would not even attempt to use it, or buy one. | May 11 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | mjg59_: Ah. | May 11 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason I ever had an iPod was because I got one in a contest on the radio and libimobiledevice happened to send MP3 files to it. | May 11 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason I ever had an iPod was because I got one in a contest on the radio and libimobiledevice happened to send MP3 files to it. | May 11 22:09 |
| techrights-news | NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748 | May 11 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines | May 11 22:11 | |
| XRevan86 | mjg59_: "the Nouveau specific firmware that NVidia currently releases" <- Does that mean that the problem has been already solved, and I simply never got the news? | May 11 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's crazy to buy shit from Apple or Nvidia and expect that it's going to work when they've never been anything but antagonistic and hostile to their users, and especially to people trying to use it with Free Software. | May 11 22:13 |
| techrights-news | IDG and ZDNet are infested with Microsoft moles disguised as "journalists". Is SPAM the new "news"? | May 11 22:14 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164749 | May 11 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit | Tux Machines | May 11 22:14 | |
| DaemonFC | "I asked about FreeBSD support given NVIDIA's long-present BSD support with their proprietary driver and whether this open-sourced code was portable enough to work on any of the BSDs. I was simply told that for R515, it's Linux-only." | May 11 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | May 11 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | And of course they'll obfuscate the "open source" driver so to anyone without inside information it's incoherent, indecipherable, and gibberish. | May 11 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | They don't even have to rip a page out of a playbook for that, because it's their playbook. | May 11 22:15 |
| mjg59_ | It still references internal Jira tickets, I don't see any attempt to obfuscate it | May 11 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | You'll be lucky if it's "only" undocumented and has no comments. | May 11 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | If you're really unlucky, they'll run it through a preprocessor too, and in hex. | May 11 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Like "NV", | May 11 22:16 |
| mjg59_ | It has comments | May 11 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | They just want a broken unusable stub that is only good for foisting their blob on you. | May 11 22:16 |
| mjg59_ | It's really not hard to look at the code | May 11 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Until you do that, you have basic video so you can get around to installing the blob. | May 11 22:17 |
| mjg59_ | XRevan86: My understanding is that that was only the firmware required for hardware init, not for stuff like reclocking (otherwise the GPU just runs at the slowest clock) | May 11 22:17 |
| techrights-news | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164750 | May 11 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 11 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Running at the slowest clock speed is the safest choice if you figure that your hardware will be unsuitable for anything but basic video on the way to installing malware blobs. | May 11 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | At least that way the complete piece of shit shouldn't overheat. | May 11 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | mjg59_: Very helpful of them. | May 11 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | There's a reason why things are designed the way they are. BMW designs their coolant systems to fail after about 7 years so the engine blows up and is financially impossible to justify fixing because it's so warped. | May 11 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia designs their "open source" stuff to be completely sabotaged as a form of soft fascism to steer people towards the blob. | May 11 22:20 |
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| techrights-news | Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit â https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-2022-python-language-summit_01678898482.html ä· Source: pyfound | May 11 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pyfound.blogspot.com | Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit | May 11 22:32 | |
| MinceR | 11 225712 < DaemonFC> " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support. | May 11 22:33 |
| MinceR | it's in line with what you can generally expect from the IT industry | May 11 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | A generous helping of Engrish. | May 11 22:34 |
| techrights-news | A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164751 | May 11 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL | Tux Machines | May 11 22:35 | |
| techrights-news | 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164752 | May 11 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines | May 11 22:36 | |
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| techrights-news | Gulagâs Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/ https://9to5google.com/2022/05/11/flutter-3-linux-macos-apps-dynamic-theme-material-you/ | May 11 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Googleâs Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps â TechCrunch | May 11 22:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Flutter 3 brings Linux and macOS apps, Material You, more - 9to5Google | May 11 22:38 | |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thatâs as productive as it is elegant ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164754 | May 11 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thatâs as productive as it is elegant | Tux Machines | May 11 22:39 | |
| bnchs | MinceR, i have never used their nvidia proprietary drivers, because i never had nvidia | May 11 22:39 |
| bnchs | but i'm pretty sure all the stability issues nvidia users report with linux is the driver's fault | May 11 22:39 |
| bnchs | so distributions have to blacklist the module | May 11 22:39 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: https://nitter.net/nexta_tv/status/1523588963075690497 | May 11 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | NEXTA (@nexta_tv): "Vladimir #Medinsky was asked if he would congratulate the #Ukrainian negotiating delegation on Victory Day. He replied: "Only after we have defeated them"." | nitter | May 11 22:40 | |
| XRevan86 | Vladimir Medinsky is head of the Russian delegation in negotiations with Ukraine. | May 11 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | On paper, anyway. | May 11 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Short of surrendering their entire country, it's unclear what the Russians are willing to negotiate with Ukraine. | May 11 22:42 |
| techrights-news | Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164755 | May 11 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 | Tux Machines | May 11 22:42 | |
| MinceR | bnchs: depends on what the user wants | May 11 22:42 |
| MinceR | i.e. fast graphics with all the bells and whistles and instability or possibly slower and/or less featureful graphics with possibly more stability | May 11 22:43 |
| techrights-news | Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge â https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-cheers-senate-confirmation-of-alvaro-bedoya-as-ftc-commissioner/ ä· Source: publicknowledge | May 11 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge | May 11 22:43 | |
| MinceR | things like this make me glad i can afford to keep multiple laptops and thus separate concerns | May 11 22:43 |
| techrights-news | "It is closer to Apache Lucene than to Elasticsearch or Apache Solr in the sense it is not an off-the-shelf search engine server, but rather a crate that can be used to build such a search engine." https://medevel.com/tantivy-search/ | May 11 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Tantivy is a lightweight full-text search engine | May 11 22:43 | |
| techrights-news | Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update https://puri.sm/posts/improved-delivery-time-for-librem-5-usa-may-2022-update/ | May 11 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update â Purism | May 11 22:44 | |
| XRevan86 | "instead of working towards peace" <- So that's just it, it's not the kind of war where it's even possible to do that. | May 11 22:46 |
| techrights-news | Canonical is promoting Windows now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33625 | May 11 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 22:48 | |
| XRevan86 | Because Russia invaded with a goal, that goal being a take-over of Ukraine, and it's not going away until it can get as close to it as possible. | May 11 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | Though I guess "going away" is not the right choice of words. | May 11 22:48 |
| techrights-news | "At the station, I asked for a reservation for the train to Barcelona and they actually had some available. The train was punctual and the next chapter of my journey began without any problems." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-9-cable-cars/ | May 11 22:48 |
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| techrights-news | xkcd: Selection Bias â https://xkcd.com/2618/ ä· Source: xkcd | May 11 22:48 |
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| techrights-news | US Begins Massive Crackdown On Sharing Sites - Invidious â https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NCynZjB3Yo4 ä· Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | May 11 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | US Begins Massive Crackdown On Piracy Sites - Invidious | May 11 22:49 | |
| activelow | interesting, reviewing further packages, since options are limited without gtk/x11.. fbida remains for framebuffer console | May 11 22:51 |
| activelow | here we go... it links against libdrm for no obvious reason | May 11 22:51 |
| activelow | and fbida is the last remaining utility to view images (without converting them to sixels) | May 11 22:52 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers ⢠Tux Machines ⨠http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164756 | May 11 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 11 22:52 | |
| activelow | access to /dev/fb0 does not require libdrm, at least it should be optional | May 11 22:52 |
| activelow | fbida is the last remaining wrongdoer... either i patch it to remove libdrm dependency, or i will convert all images to sixels | May 11 22:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So even though the intentions of some actors are not entirely clear, whether they want peace (what kind of peace) or to win the war to the max, it is not actually a discussion: peace-talks don't exist per-se. | May 11 22:53 |
| XRevan86 | Russia calls for peace. #define peace surrender | May 11 22:55 |
| activelow | i suspect there is a sidechannel hidden somewhere, within in image libraries down to kernel drm direct-rendering-manager | May 11 22:55 |
| activelow | too i did cleanup w3m browser dependencies, which got sixel support, it doesn't need to link against any libdrm/imglib or whatever... image data is converted into sixels and rasterized into virtual terminal tty | May 11 22:56 |
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| activelow | ok, i'll wipe fbida too, and blacklist libdrm... and convert all images into sixels | May 11 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "even leftists in ukraine say this" <- Unfortunately, it means that those "leftists" ye mentioned are hypocrites. | May 11 23:00 |
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| XRevan86 | "us uses them as cannon fodder" <- When it comes to Ukrainian lives, civilian and military, the help the US gives is going to save lives. | May 11 23:02 |
| MinceR | https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-use-a-library-without-reading-its-documentation-3 | May 11 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When I use a library without reading its documentation | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes | May 11 23:02 | |
| XRevan86 | When it comes to Russian military lives⦠not so much of course. | May 11 23:02 |
| XRevan86 | The war would have continued regardless of whether the US had given Ukraine help. | May 11 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also I'd like to know the names of those "leftists" and hopefully they aren't "Shariy" or "Kyva". | May 11 23:09 |
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| activelow | another troublemaker is mupdf which i hoped for can remain to view PDF on framebuffer console, already downgraded this one to a 10year old version to remove undesireable dependencies... | May 11 23:13 |
| bnchs | activelow, mupdf has 2 versions though | May 11 23:16 |
| activelow | bnchs: which versions? | May 11 23:18 |
| bnchs | opengl renderer one | May 11 23:18 |
| bnchs | and x11 (i think) one | May 11 23:18 |
| activelow | i see, i thought it used /dev/fb0 (fbcon)... | May 11 23:19 |
| activelow | seems the dependencies of image viewers always, lock into APIs of proprietary/malicious components, such as the GPU crap inside kernel (DRM), X11 which is related | May 11 23:19 |
| bnchs | but it can be written to render to anything | May 11 23:19 |
| bnchs | and because of that, it got ported to consoles that don't support either of those APIs like the playstation portable and nintendo wii | May 11 23:20 |
| activelow | i can convert images into sixels, convert pdf into text (pdf sucks anyway), libsdl1 can use fbcon driver... so i won't need any opengl,x11 proprietary/malicious APIs anymore | May 11 23:20 |
| activelow | meaning i can keep the entire multimedia fun, audio/video/images _without_ any libdrm/opengl/x11 | May 11 23:21 |
| activelow | which is how it should be, on *nix | May 11 23:22 |
| activelow | next on todo is vt-switchign with mplayer-1.4/libsdl1/fbcon... prboom/libsdl1/fbcon already works absolutely flawless | May 11 23:22 |
| activelow | too i'll check if i can pick a 256color mode for /dev/fb0, because 256 color palette is sufficient, images look _very_ good, and reducing framebuffer to 8bit(16bit) color palette is _much_ faster | May 11 23:23 |
| activelow | i'll render sixels into 256 colors only, no noticable difference compared to 16bit or 32bit truecolor | May 11 23:24 |
| activelow | XRevan86: "ukraine vs russia" is a _propaganda_ narrative of a pseudo-intellectual self-proclaimed elite | May 11 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Maybe I'm imagining things. | May 11 23:25 |
| activelow | the real reasons are different ones, which is the oil/gas business among other minor details | May 11 23:26 |
| activelow | XRevan86: yes, although it is terrifying, the portrayal of this conflict on TV is a propaganda media spectacle | May 11 23:27 |
| activelow | to indoctrinate the population, to believe any bullshit those pseudo-intellectuals on TV spout all day | May 11 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye keep forgetting that I live in a different country than you. | May 11 23:29 |
| activelow | XRevan86: in Leipzig, tens of thousands of soviet soldiers lived in military bases, and your President studied a few kilometers away from my university | May 11 23:29 |
| activelow | my mother studied in Charkiv, father travelled to Russia regularly (coal mining business)... russia and ukraine are not that far away | May 11 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: TV looks like this: https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1521324392197804032 | May 11 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Messaging on Russian state TV: they want the West to know that an average Russian person is even more bloodthirsty than Putin himself, that they want Russia's invasion of Ukraine to continue and are disappointed that world leaders visiting Zelensky weren't killed along with him." | nitter | May 11 23:31 | |
| activelow | Ukrainian students studied at Telecom university... | May 11 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | I can't disagree with that it's a propaganda media spectacle. | May 11 23:31 |
| MinceR | lol @ russians being bloodthirsty | May 11 23:32 |
| MinceR | is that why they put protesters away? | May 11 23:32 |
| activelow | meaning, if those propaganda prostitues on TV argue i should side with any of a war against Ukraine or Russia i rather aim elsewhere, certainly not some russian or ukrainian | May 11 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Cherry picking can make any narrative possible. | May 11 23:33 |
| activelow | they frame this into "Ukraine good" "Russia bad"... remember... London business involved with Oil/Gas in Ukraine? | May 11 23:33 |
| activelow | Burisma Bidler, Westinghouse electric fiddling in Ukrainian nuclear plants... a long list of "minor" details to ask questions about. | May 11 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: There was nothing worse that happened to the transit of gas through Ukraine than this war. | May 11 23:34 |
| activelow | i don't trust this comedian from Kiev at all | May 11 23:35 |
| XRevan86 | Don't trust away, see if I care. | May 11 23:35 |
| activelow | furthermore, the eastern regions in Ukraine, suffered from industrial decline... while Kiev became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars | May 11 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | Not going to change anything. | May 11 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | furthermore, the eastern regions in Russia, suffered from industrial decline... while Moscow became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars | May 11 23:36 |
| activelow | if population in eastern-ukraine was angry, and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress, i understand this, and too the Minsk agreement insisted on free federal elections | May 11 23:37 |
| activelow | XRevan86: remember "drain the swapm"? | May 11 23:37 |
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| activelow | swamp | May 11 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Especially in 2022, where they seeked through Russia bombing them and then occupying. | May 11 23:38 |
| activelow | and yes, occasionally some russian snobs and their luxury is shown on tv | May 11 23:38 |
| activelow | anyway, most of those heavy tanks presented on tv, were considered useless by many military experts | May 11 23:39 |
| XRevan86 | That luxury has no relevance to the general prosperity of Russia. | May 11 23:39 |
| XRevan86 | only as a demonstration where all the hopes for prosperity went | May 11 23:40 |
| activelow | XRevan86: i do not follow the argument the investment of billions into oil/gas business, mining, pipelines were some cash grabbing scam | May 11 23:40 |
| activelow | the "renewable energy" of EU is a propaganda scam | May 11 23:41 |
| matey | i hope putlin leaves pereyaslav alone, i think its my favourite place in europe now | May 11 23:41 |
| activelow | whatever EU was supposed to be... currently energy prices explode in germany, not in Italy or France for example... sun is shining | May 11 23:41 |
| activelow | no heating required there | May 11 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: "and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress" <- Get a closer look at Mariupol and Kherson. What they were, what they are now and what they are going to be. | May 11 23:42 |
| activelow | XRevan86: whatever was hidden in Bunkers below Mariupol, i hope it will be gone forever | May 11 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | Especially Mariupol, because it was a city founded around Azovstal', and if ye know anything about this war, ye know that it's being erased from the face of this Earth. | May 11 23:43 |
| activelow | Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power globally, and who knows what else this clown from kiev had access to | May 11 23:43 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye mean the refugees and the remains of the Azov battalion? | May 11 23:43 |
| activelow | some Reports from Sankt Petersburg, presented evidence, Ukraine ordered drones asking to equip those with dispensers for chemicals | May 11 23:43 |
| matey | im not tracking the war closely, im more immediately concerned with broader implications | May 11 23:43 |
| XRevan86 | Some of them escaped with the help of the Red Cross and the UN, so no, they won't be gone forever. | May 11 23:44 |
| matey | thats good, even if it sounds too much like marisol | May 11 23:44 |
| activelow | ballistic missiles, who knows, i don't trust this clown from kiev | May 11 23:44 |
| activelow | and i trust EU/NATO/USA even less | May 11 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | I only entrust nuclear weaponry to Putin. | May 11 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | He's a stable guy. | May 11 23:45 |
| XRevan86 | He won't just start a war on a whim. | May 11 23:45 |
| matey | when does putlin outweigh trump on the absolute shit scale? | May 11 23:45 |
| activelow | Putin and his german friends, yes | May 11 23:45 |
| matey | trump may be the worst president in the history of the usa. okay-- but the world? hes already outclassed by stalin by an order of magnitude | May 11 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I haven't been Trump wield similiar power, so hard to tell. | May 11 23:46 |
| matey | theres that | May 11 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | * haven't seen | May 11 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | All Trump's attempts to power-grab ended miserably. | May 11 23:46 |
| matey | i mean its kompot and oranges | May 11 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | Did someone mention Medvedev the Kompot? | May 11 23:47 |
| matey | but when your going for worst leader ever, it has to be | May 11 23:47 |
| activelow | it was Burisma Bidler who interfered with Ukraine... remember the impeachment proceeding against Trump? | May 11 23:47 |
| matey | no i meant the juice | May 11 23:47 |
| activelow | of cause, this was nothing... | May 11 23:47 |
| matey | close enough if you wanted to segue | May 11 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Just a reference to a 2017 story. | May 11 23:47 |
| matey | crazy people named after juice have rarely ended well | May 11 23:48 |
| matey | of course there was oj | May 11 23:48 |
| matey | and some guy who got killed at an airport? | May 11 23:48 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Remember "He Is Not Dimon to You" from the Navalny's team? | May 11 23:48 |
| matey | /me shows a chart of periods where hes paid attention to russian history, with only a few bands indicating some familiarity at all | May 11 23:49 |
| matey | cant say i have | May 11 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Medvedev responded to the allegations with "nonsense, froth and kompot" | May 11 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | it kinda stuck :) | May 11 23:49 |
| matey | im focused on the immediate and the less recent historical, mostly the latter (which chronologically is the former) | May 11 23:49 |
| matey | oh good nickname then | May 11 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Sorry, sorry, it's just meme value that's relevant in this context. | May 11 23:50 |
| matey | no apology necessary. if anything you help flesh out this spotty history im working (not very hard) on | May 11 23:50 |
| matey | russia is a side interest for me | May 11 23:50 |
| matey | but ive spent a lot of time on it recently, so id be lying if i feigned complete disinterest | May 11 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | It was one of the most resonant Navalny's investigations. | May 11 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | Outgunned only by the Putin's Palace one. | May 11 23:51 |
| matey | clearly most of whats happened recently is tragedy on tragedy with more than a hint of catastrophe and not only a sprinkling of fucking disaster | May 11 23:51 |
| matey | hopefully he will be dead before it gets too much worse | May 11 23:52 |
| matey | when the whole world wants someone dead, sometimes thats just enough | May 11 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | It's sure fun to see that Russia's empty allegations that Ukraine intended to make nuclear weapons have worked on someone. | May 11 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | Actually providing evidence is redundant at this point. | May 11 23:53 |
| matey | i realise there are some bizarre people who want the opposite | May 11 23:53 |
| matey | theres really no accounting for taste | May 11 23:53 |
| matey | then again im a big fan of dissent in general, so im glad at least theyre not (all) being hauled off somewhere | May 11 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | Russian officials have put saying "we have proof" for actually giving any proof on a production line. | May 11 23:53 |
| matey | in russia im sure thats not entirely true | May 11 23:53 |
| matey | russian officials sound worse than marketers | May 11 23:54 |
| matey | if thats possible | May 11 23:54 |
| matey | i dont hate russia in the slightest | May 11 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | Neither am I. | May 11 23:54 |
| matey | my impression is wonderful people, a smattering of former mobsters (surely a couple not so former ones) and a government straight out of hell itself | May 11 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | I am disappointed however. | May 11 23:55 |
| MinceR | "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed" | May 11 23:55 |
| matey | yes, disappointment sounds like a good british understatement for it-- whether or not youre british (fairly certainly youre not-- but they didnt invent irony, they only take most of the credit) | May 11 23:55 |
| matey | (to be fair theyve contributed substantially) | May 11 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | I despise my government, I am disappointed in my people. Not an understatement. | May 11 23:56 |
| matey | (almost as much as mincer) | May 11 23:56 |
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| matey | XRevan86: somehow i can relate to this | May 11 23:57 |
| matey | many years ago (when i was quite young) i swore id never visit either the republic or northern ireland | May 11 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. | May 11 23:58 |
| matey | because of all the fucking nonsense there | May 11 23:58 |
| matey | however, both are among my favourite places on earth now, and beautiful as fuck | May 11 23:59 |
| matey | Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. <- NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT! | May 11 23:59 |
| matey | also, i think youre taking too much credit for russia herself | May 11 23:59 |
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