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| techrights-bot | #Microsoft absolutely loves concern-trolling #Linux , but bribed spokespeople of Microsoft (e.g. Jim #Zemlin ) will always make excuses for them. http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ | Jun 11 00:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights | Jun 11 00:00 | |
| techrights-bot | Not sure about the licensing situation, but if #intel tries to take over #riscv there's a need to fork IMMEDIATELY. Intel = NSA http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks also lots of crimes: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences | Jun 11 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights | Jun 11 00:01 | |
| techrights-bot | Packages like #polkit have bugs all the time (dos, priv escalation etc.), but only when #microsoft employees speak about it the media wakes up and spreads the FUD? Linux != polkit. Pay attention to what's more urgent: http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Jun 11 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Jun 11 00:03 | |
| MinceR | better yet, don't run polkit | Jun 11 00:04 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm "Power is now at the tipping point where it can not sustain because of the talent loss not to mention Z has priority over P for good reasons but that causes P to lose resources to Z when in need. P is also used to pipeclean for Z chips" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies | Jun 11 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | what does it take to exploit it, MinceR? | Jun 11 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Certainly not remotely exploitable? | Jun 11 00:05 |
| MinceR | no, local | Jun 11 00:05 |
| schestowitz | I'm guessing some trick for locally escalating | Jun 11 00:05 |
| schestowitz | IF you have access to polkit at al | Jun 11 00:05 |
| MinceR | seems exploitable with just dbus-send and killing it with the right timing | Jun 11 00:05 |
| schestowitz | share hosts don't give users polkit | Jun 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | *shared | Jun 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | unless they're poettering's multiseat laptop :> | Jun 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | but let's talk about the mice in the room | Jun 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | what sort of mice? 8000 Hz polling rate mice? :> | Jun 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | i haven't reached the end of the article yet, btw | Jun 11 00:07 |
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| MinceR | it says the PoC needs the accountsservice and gnome-control-center packages but i don't yet know which PoC and why | Jun 11 00:08 |
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| techrights-bot | "With versions 4.4 and 4.5, the French company BlueMind is updating its open source groupware with the same name. Users can now integrate video conferences with Jitsi and StarLeaf in 4.5 and also link them to appointments in the calendar." https://marketresearchtelecast.com/groupware-bluemind-4-5-now-with-video-conferencing/68392/ | Jun 11 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | Groupware: BlueMind 4.5 now with video conferencing - Market Research Telecast | Jun 11 00:09 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I meant, they ignore the elephants in the room | Jun 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | and focus on some minor bug with a patch available in no time | Jun 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | typical Microsoft | Jun 11 00:11 |
| schestowitz | LWN wrote about it | Jun 11 00:11 |
| schestowitz | apparently, no other security news exists | Jun 11 00:11 |
| schestowitz | only Microsoft | Jun 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | yeah, but note that this bug is specific to poetteringware (polkit) | Jun 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | it's not a Linus bug | Jun 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | s/nus/nux/ | Jun 11 00:11 |
| techrights-bot | What #microsoft and #github mean to #linux http://techrights.org/2019/11/11/delete-github/ | Jun 11 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Abduction of the Voice of Its Opposition Highlights the Urgency of the Movement/Campaign to Delete GitHub | Techrights | Jun 11 00:12 | |
| MinceR | apparently gnome-control-center is only used for a polkit configuration detail, and different ways to exploit this error can work with configurations coming from different packages (like packagekit) | Jun 11 00:13 |
| techrights-bot | Pushing #proprietarysoftware as if it is some of 'charity' www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trustinsoft-offers-free-application-security-testing-program-for-google-summer-of-code-projects-301309158.html | Jun 11 00:14 |
| techrights-bot | Every newborn on a ventilator can now be better protected, thanks to technology that helps prevent a common breathing tube incident - Purdue University News ⚓ https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2021/Q2/every-newborn-on-a-ventilator-can-now-be-better-protected,-thanks-to-technology-that-helps-prevent-a-common-breathing-tube-incident.html ䷉ #purdue | Jun 11 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.purdue.edu | Every newborn on a ventilator can now be better protected, thanks to technology that helps prevent a common breathing tube incident - Purdue University News | Jun 11 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | is this limited to ga-nommmm? | Jun 11 00:16 |
| MinceR | no | Jun 11 00:16 |
| schestowitz | lol https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/752945/dos-window-flashes-on-screen-slow-pc-app-window-self-closing/ | Jun 11 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | DOS Window flashes on screen. Slow++ PC. App window self-closing. - Virus, Trojan, Spyware, and Malware Removal Help | Jun 11 00:17 | |
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| MinceR | the author explains that it initially didn't work on rHELL 8 because gnome-control-center was not installed by default, but they could instead use the setting coming from packagekit to have packagekit install the gnome-control-center package (for its policykit.imply annotation) and then just run the earlier exploit successfully | Jun 11 00:18 |
| techrights-bot | I remember when Stephen Shankland covered "open Web" and not shilling #proprietarySoftwrae browsers that perpetuate #monoculture https://www.cnet.com/news/vivaldi-browser-now-runs-your-email-and-calendar-too/ | Jun 11 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vivaldi browser now runs your email and calendar, too - CNET | Jun 11 00:18 | |
| CrystalMath | vivaldi keeping up with the systemd vibe | Jun 11 00:19 |
| techrights-bot | ⚓ https://fossbytes.com/how-to-use-newsboat-rss-feed-reader-on-linux/ I tried it for a while, but it fell short of expectations | Jun 11 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://fossbytes.com/how-to-use-newsboat-rss-feed-reader-on-linux/ ) | Jun 11 00:19 | |
| techrights-bot | How To Use Command Line Newsboat RSS Feed Reader On Linux? ⚓ https://fossbytes.com/how-to-use-newsboat-rss-feed-reader-on-linux/ I tried it for a while, but it fell short of expectations | Jun 11 00:20 |
| techrights-bot | #LinuxFoundation promoting and #openwashing mass #surveillance as if it's some sort of 'charity' https://mytechdecisions.com/it-infrastructure/bringing-high-speed-internet-to-remote-areas/ | Jun 11 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mytechdecisions.com | Learn Magma, A New Open Source Project Bringing High Speed Internet To Remote Areas - My TechDecisions | Jun 11 00:23 | |
| techrights-bot | The "LINUX" brand is increasingly being used to promote HARM. Thank the #LinuxFoundation for this misuse of the brand. Earlier today: http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 00:24 | |
| techrights-bot | #intel will now go out of its way to attack/destroy/hijack #riscV https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/08/iscas_2000_riscv_laptops/ | Jun 11 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China's ISCAS to build 2,000 RISC-V laptops by the end of 2022 as nation seeks to cut reliance on Arm, Intel chips • The Register | Jun 11 00:25 | |
| techrights-bot | This has nothing to do with actual health https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1449220/liquid-avatar-joins-linux-foundation-public-health-cardea-project see http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Liquid Avatar Joins Linux Foun - GuruFocus.com | Jun 11 00:27 | |
| techrights-bot | Does ASF now assess its performance based on #proprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft ?? https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/being-serious-about-security-is-a-must-apache-software-foundation-custodians-on-fulfilling-its-founding-mission http://techrights.org/2019/04/29/asf-prisoner-of-microsoft/ | Jun 11 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | ‘Being serious about security is a must’ – Apache Software Foundation custodians on fulfilling its founding mission | The Daily Swig | Jun 11 00:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | After Killing the Independence of Apache Software Foundation (ASF) Microsoft Steals Its Soul, Too | Techrights | Jun 11 00:29 | |
| MinceR | basically, in vulnerable versions, whenever there's an implication set up in polkit so that if you were authorized to do action A you're also allowed to do action B, you can actually do action B without asking the user for a password | Jun 11 00:31 |
| techrights-bot | I can no longer call myself "Linux advocate" seeing what #LinuxFoundation has reduced this label or brand to. They're clearly killing it, overusing and diluting it for a shilling. Go back to #gnu and #freesw ... LINUX means #surveillance and #monopolies | Jun 11 00:31 |
| MinceR | you can be an advocate for Linux without being an advocate for the LF, but Linux's future is grim | Jun 11 00:31 |
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| techrights-bot | #Google ad biz shenanigans smacked down by French competition regulators • The Register ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/08/google_ad_biz_told_non/ ䷉ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google ad biz shenanigans smacked down by French competition regulators • The Register | Jun 11 00:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 00:32 | |
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| techrights-bot | "Learning to code is a gateway to exciting creative opportunities, not to mention helping you earn more money and respect in your career. But the pathway towards coding mastery is not always an easy one. And it's not unusual to reach a point where it seems like you're… stuck." https://www.creativeboom.com/resources/why-only-learning-code-can-set-you-up-to-fail/ | Jun 11 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.creativeboom.com | Why only learning code sets you up to fail | Creative Boom | Jun 11 00:36 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, I agree | Jun 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | it's a bad situation to be in | Jun 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | and if LT left, which I doubt he would, they can smear him in the media | Jun 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | they probably have sufficient "dirt" on him already and he's being made aware of it | Jun 11 00:38 |
| schestowitz | he controls the trademarks, but LF sponsors can wrest control of the project | Jun 11 00:38 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 00:39 |
| techrights-bot | "Bubble" defined. https://builtin.com/blockchain/non-fungible-token-nft | Jun 11 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-builtin.com | 17 Places To Buy NFTs | Built In | Jun 11 00:39 | |
| techrights-bot | Back doors everywhere, but HEY HI HEY HI https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252502003/MoD-launches-digital-strategy | Jun 11 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | MoD launches digital strategy | Jun 11 00:41 | |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft #surveillance #espionage #nsa https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210607005478/en/Broadband-Forum-Welcomes-Surge-of-New-Members | Jun 11 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Broadband Forum Welcomes Surge of New Members | Business Wire | Jun 11 00:42 | |
| techrights-bot | Nope. DELETE now. Don't patch. #vmvware is vulnerable by default, as Snowden leaks about EMC showed. https://www.zdnet.com/article/patch-now-attackers-are-hunting-for-this-critical-vmware-vcentre-flaw/ | Jun 11 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patch now: Attackers are hunting for this critical VMware vCentre flaw | ZDNet | Jun 11 00:43 | |
| techrights-bot | #vmware should be avoided altogether, if not prosecuted http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ | Jun 11 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights | Jun 11 00:44 | |
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| techrights-bot | Some PUBLIC libraries are STILL called after enabler of TRAFFICKING of thousands of UNDERAGE girls for SEX https://eu.monroecopost.com/story/entertainment/events/2021/06/09/library-notes-gates-greece-and-parma/7470171002/ see https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Jun 11 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.monroecopost.com | LIBRARY NOTES: Gates, Greece and Parma | Jun 11 00:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | Jun 11 00:46 | |
| techrights-bot | When #BillGates Pays a University Through His Friend Epstein (Sex Trafficker) to Call Buildings After Himself • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/10/12/tribute-to-the-bill/ ䷉ #Techrights #bribery | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/10/12/tribute-to-the-bill/ | Jun 11 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Bill Gates Pays a University Through His Friend Epstein (Sex Trafficker) to Call Buildings After Himself | Techrights | Jun 11 00:47 | |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft "is getting around the standard GNU and Open Source licenses by simply supplying a link to a page that says "These are the bits we got from other people." 'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. I'm afraid my bias may be influencing my opinion." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/753019/what-i-learned-about-ms-edge-and-ms-open-source/ | Jun 11 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | What I learned about MS Edge and MS Open Source - Linux & Unix | Jun 11 00:48 | |
| techrights-bot | #RISCV Functional Safety Processor IP Core introduced by Fraunhofer IPMS and CAST https://www.eejournal.com/industry_news/risc-v-functional-safety-processor-ip-core-introduced-by-fraunhofer-ipms-and-cast/ | Jun 11 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RISC-V Functional Safety Processor IP Core introduced by Fraunhofer IPMS and CAST – EEJournal | Jun 11 00:49 | |
| techrights-bot | #LinuxFoundation ’s Latest #Openwashing and Promotion of #ProprietarySoftware • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152167 #zemlinPAC #TuxMachines | Jun 11 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation's Latest Openwashing and Promotion of Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Jun 11 00:54 | |
| techrights-bot | #OpenHardware : #Arduino and #RISCV • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152166 #TuxMachines | Jun 11 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Arduino and RISC-V | Tux Machines | Jun 11 00:54 | |
| techrights-bot | #elementaryOS 6 beta promises great things in the same beautiful package • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152168 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 beta promises great things in the same beautiful package | Tux Machines | Jun 11 00:57 | |
| techrights-bot | India’s #Democracy Is the World’s Problem https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/06/g7-india-narendra-modi-democracy/619144/ | Jun 11 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | India’s Democracy Is the World’s Problem - The Atlantic | Jun 11 00:57 | |
| CrystalMath | "the world's problem" | Jun 11 00:59 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/uw26rek.png | Jun 11 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | heh | Jun 11 01:00 |
| schestowitz | totally sounds like him | Jun 11 01:01 |
| MinceR | he's just like that... in Civilization. | Jun 11 01:01 |
| MinceR | it used to be a bug, then it became official | Jun 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz | you got CrystalMath all excited for a moment | Jun 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz | someone called him "genocidal" recently | Jun 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz | for not wanting to live long himse | Jun 11 01:02 |
| MinceR | he would start with the minimum possible aggressiveness value | Jun 11 01:02 |
| MinceR | and then there was some advance that would reduce this value when an AI player got it | Jun 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 11 01:02 |
| MinceR | and in Gandhi's case this would overflow to the highest possible value | Jun 11 01:03 |
| schestowitz | there are some self-immolating Buddhists | Jun 11 01:03 |
| schestowitz | but never heard of self-nuking ones | Jun 11 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: tbh it was really Ariadne's knee-jerk reaction to what i said | Jun 11 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | i said "i support Andrew Lee" | Jun 11 01:04 |
| schestowitz | "gone with a bang..." | Jun 11 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | and Ariadne got angry and said "well you support genocide" | Jun 11 01:04 |
| MinceR | lol wut | Jun 11 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | and i actually think i may have a log of that! | Jun 11 01:04 |
| schestowitz | I support calm, not people... in this case, I think weeks of work were lost in many projects because of infighting | Jun 11 01:04 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] If I look long enough, I might find the source of that. | Jun 11 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | okay i didn't actually say it like that | Jun 11 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | i said | Jun 11 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | "i strongly support freenode" | Jun 11 01:05 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] the proper word is actually not "genocidal" but "mysanthropic" | Jun 11 01:05 |
| schestowitz | https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode | Jun 11 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jun 11 01:05 | |
| MinceR | well, once all the humans are dead, things will calm down a lot >:) | Jun 11 01:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe nihilism | Jun 11 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | <CrystalMath> bw: i strongly support Freenode | Jun 11 01:05 |
| schestowitz | genocide targets a particular group | Jun 11 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | <CrystalMath> and Andrew Lee | Jun 11 01:05 |
| schestowitz | not species, but "race" typically... | Jun 11 01:05 |
| schestowitz | "geno" | Jun 11 01:05 |
| MinceR | no, nihilism (at least philosophical nihilism) is a completely different idea | Jun 11 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | <southey> quick, get him /s | Jun 11 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | <bw> CrystalMath: yikes, might want to rethink that | Jun 11 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | <Ariadne> (other things he support include genocide) | Jun 11 01:06 |
| schestowitz | if you limit life to some age, that might contribute a bit to lessening climate issues | Jun 11 01:06 |
| MinceR | that idea is that there is no inherent meaning to life, only what people come up with | Jun 11 01:06 |
| schestowitz | but then you don't tackle the disproportionate contribution to pollution | Jun 11 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: right, that's what i believe in | Jun 11 01:06 |
| MinceR | same | Jun 11 01:06 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] crystalmath i'm going to print that log out, put it in a nice frame and mail it to you | Jun 11 01:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 01:07 |
| schestowitz | :D | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | i'm sorry Ariadne | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | i'm actually clearing up that you only said that in the moment | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | you don't really mean it | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | it's okay :) | Jun 11 01:07 |
| schestowitz | anyway, CrystalMath was a tad depressing at the tome | Jun 11 01:07 |
| schestowitz | *depressed | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | that is also true | Jun 11 01:07 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Right now freenode is reported at 56K and LC at 31K | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | i've also been angry | Jun 11 01:07 |
| CrystalMath | and sad | Jun 11 01:08 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86 that's expected | Jun 11 01:08 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] which is a not that signifant dip down for one and a pretty significant grow for the other | Jun 11 01:08 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, no major chaos anymore | Jun 11 01:08 |
| schestowitz | no blog posts about this and that. people return to work | Jun 11 01:08 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: but it's the same people on two networks, not more people on IRC :P | Jun 11 01:08 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Moving from one to the other and dropping their accounts? | Jun 11 01:09 |
| schestowitz | how many people were on IRC 20 years ago? | Jun 11 01:09 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] i pray that i never have to write about irc this much ever again | Jun 11 01:09 |
| schestowitz | it would be easy to get a fuller picture. Also, in the 90s you'd need to dial up to be online in IRC. | Jun 11 01:09 |
| MinceR | or use leased line at school :> | Jun 11 01:09 |
| schestowitz | netsplit.de doesn't go that far back.. | Jun 11 01:09 |
| schestowitz | https://netsplit.de/networks/GIMPnet/ | Jun 11 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Jun 11 01:10 | |
| schestowitz | weird name for a network | Jun 11 01:10 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: glimpsenet incoming | Jun 11 01:10 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz, CrystalMath: I guess what this means is that freenode is no longer a reliable metric of how many people are there using IRC. | Jun 11 01:10 |
| MinceR | there's nothing weird about it | Jun 11 01:11 |
| CrystalMath | there's also IRCnet | Jun 11 01:11 |
| MinceR | it stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program :> | Jun 11 01:11 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Stop poking a corpse %) | Jun 11 01:11 |
| schestowitz | users Ø channels Ø servers Ø 5422 411 5 | Jun 11 01:11 |
| schestowitz | 411 channels? | Jun 11 01:11 |
| schestowitz | for GIMP? | Jun 11 01:11 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i'm on many networks, i don't think these two are the only ones | Jun 11 01:11 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] So the question is, will LC surpass freenode in amount of users this month or the next. | Jun 11 01:12 |
| MinceR | or ever | Jun 11 01:12 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: the *busiest* network i connect to has 100 people | Jun 11 01:12 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: haha, try betting on that :) | Jun 11 01:12 |
| MinceR | i'm not really into betting | Jun 11 01:12 |
| schestowitz | " EFnet has since (as of August 1998) grown and passed the number of users it had then. In the (northern) autumn of the year 2000, EFnet had some 50,000 users and IRCnet 70,000" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat | Jun 11 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia | Jun 11 01:13 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] There's no surprise in that IRC is not as big as it was. | Jun 11 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "After its golden era during the 1990s and early 2000s (240,000 users on QuakeNet in 2004), IRC has seen a significant decline, losing around 60% of users between 2003 and 2012" | Jun 11 01:13 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] which is unfortunate as it's still a darn good lingua franca of Internet group messaging | Jun 11 01:14 |
| schestowitz | "IRC reached 6 million simultaneous users in 2001 and 10 million users in 2003, dropping to 371k in 2018" | Jun 11 01:14 |
| schestowitz | OK, so peaked at 10 million | Jun 11 01:14 |
| MinceR | on the upside, it got us rid of most of the "CIAO A TUTTI" and similar noise | Jun 11 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | the thing is IRC never had its retro revival moment yet | Jun 11 01:14 |
| MinceR | (and Eternal September noise in general :> ) | Jun 11 01:14 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Ho, saluton al vi :) | Jun 11 01:15 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: maybe an enhanced version of IRC | Jun 11 01:16 |
| schestowitz | with some stuff added on to it?\ | Jun 11 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | i mean like... | Jun 11 01:16 |
| schestowitz | How many metrix users, roughly? | Jun 11 01:16 |
| schestowitz | *matrix | Jun 11 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | there was never a moment when people did | Jun 11 01:16 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] IRCv3 is roughly that | Jun 11 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | "hey let's go to IRC for good old times' sake" | Jun 11 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | IRC was never dead enough to be officially pronounced dead | Jun 11 01:16 |
| CrystalMath | and so it never got to see its afterlife, yet | Jun 11 01:17 |
| schestowitz | lots of software supports it | Jun 11 01:17 |
| schestowitz | same for text editors (ansi/ascii) and html | Jun 11 01:17 |
| CrystalMath | like for example audio cassettes | Jun 11 01:17 |
| CrystalMath | they had to die first to experience their resurgence in 2018 | Jun 11 01:17 |
| schestowitz | headphones jack | Jun 11 01:17 |
| CrystalMath | huh? | Jun 11 01:17 |
| schestowitz | still widely supported | Jun 11 01:18 |
| CrystalMath | my office computer, manufactured in 2020, has that | Jun 11 01:18 |
| schestowitz | and the "Smart" things cannot get rid of it | Jun 11 01:18 |
| schestowitz | with their DRM schemes | Jun 11 01:18 |
| CrystalMath | ah yes, the 3.5mm is still alive | Jun 11 01:18 |
| schestowitz | my laptop still has VGA port | Jun 11 01:18 |
| CrystalMath | same | Jun 11 01:18 |
| CrystalMath | but my laptop is from 2006-ish :P | Jun 11 01:19 |
| CrystalMath | tbh i have devices with RCA connectors | Jun 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz | mine 2016 | Jun 11 01:19 |
| CrystalMath | but that's me | Jun 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz | also has cd-rom | Jun 11 01:19 |
| CrystalMath | same | Jun 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz | many laptops no longer come with these | Jun 11 01:19 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: That's almost… too old | Jun 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz | actually, it's dvd | Jun 11 01:19 |
| MinceR | my gaming laptop, manufactured in 2020, has a 3.5" audio jack as well | Jun 11 01:19 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: some of my machines that are in active use are older than that | Jun 11 01:19 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▃▅▄▁▃▆▃▅▅▅▄▅▆▆▅▂▅▅▇▄▄▅▅▆▆▆▄▅▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 23.06 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.56▕ swarm size (avg): 242.61 ⟲ | Jun 11 01:19 |
| MinceR | s/"/mm/ | Jun 11 01:20 |
| MinceR | but so do my phones :> | Jun 11 01:20 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: like a 2003 celeron machine | Jun 11 01:20 |
| CrystalMath | 512 MB RAM | Jun 11 01:20 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: What are ye using that for? | Jun 11 01:20 |
| CrystalMath | it's a general purpose machine, tbh i'm rarely the one sitting on it | Jun 11 01:21 |
| CrystalMath | others in my family browse with it sometimes | Jun 11 01:21 |
| CrystalMath | there's also a much better Q6600 | Jun 11 01:21 |
| CrystalMath | no computer in here is newer than 2010 | Jun 11 01:21 |
| CrystalMath | the office computer i'm referring to is at my actual office | Jun 11 01:21 |
| techrights-bot | "In this video, we are looking at the beautiful backgrounds of the upcoming #LinuxMint 20.2. Enjoy!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv9_-b4YUms #gnu #linux | Jun 11 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Mint 20.2 Backgrounds Slideshow - YouTube | Jun 11 01:23 | |
| CrystalMath | btw the 2003 one is not the oldest i have :) | Jun 11 01:23 |
| CrystalMath | sadly i have no 80s computers :( | Jun 11 01:23 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz might have some | Jun 11 01:24 |
| techrights-bot | I’m back in the boat • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152170 #TuxMachines #kDE #jolla | Jun 11 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I'm back in the boat | Tux Machines | Jun 11 01:27 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152169 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 01:27 | |
| techrights-bot | "Hmm no: the COVID passport proves your body is clean. The Chinese social credit system proves your mind is clean." https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/06/10/2053244/linux-foundation-readies-global-covid-certificate-network #linuxfoundation = pure garbage http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Linux Foundation Readies Global COVID Certificate Network - Slashdot | Jun 11 01:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 01:29 | |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i have a 1996 CD-ROM reader that doesn't support DVDs | Jun 11 01:30 |
| CrystalMath | however it seems to be broken | Jun 11 01:30 |
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| CrystalMath | so it no longer supports CDs either :P | Jun 11 01:30 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Do, kio estas la rilato la italaj havas al eterna septembro? | Jun 11 01:34 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] al la eterna septembro | Jun 11 01:35 |
| MinceR | at one time we had lots of random lamers show up on random IRC channels saying "CIAO A TUTTI" (typically with colors) and not really have anything of substance to say | Jun 11 01:36 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] La rusa? Forgesis la artikolo? Tio estas pli verŝajna ke vi pensas. | Jun 11 01:36 |
| MinceR | and around the same time we would also have lots of kids from school using the government program that gave schools Internet access | Jun 11 01:36 |
| MinceR | those users weren't too intelligent either | Jun 11 01:36 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] * forgesis la artikolon | Jun 11 01:37 |
| MinceR | as for the original Eternal September, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September | Jun 11 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eternal September - Wikipedia | Jun 11 01:37 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] darn, I just had to forget the agreement too | Jun 11 01:37 |
| MinceR | just use english | Jun 11 01:37 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's partly to prove myself that I can still say stuff in that language too :) | Jun 11 01:37 |
| MinceR | Mia kusenveturilo estas plena je angiloj. | Jun 11 01:39 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I think the first time I heard of an Eternal September like event, it was about FidoNet | Jun 11 01:39 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Kion-kion vi diris ĵus pri mia patrino? | Jun 11 01:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 01:41 |
| CrystalMath | that's esperanto? | Jun 11 01:42 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 11 01:42 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: No, that's the Elvish dialect of Klingon | Jun 11 01:42 |
| CrystalMath | i never liked it | Jun 11 01:42 |
| CrystalMath | too euro-centric to call itself a worldwide language | Jun 11 01:42 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] it's worldwideness is about being accessible primarily | Jun 11 01:43 |
| CrystalMath | meh, i don't speak it, and i'm not interested in learning it | Jun 11 01:43 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] not just like English is accessible to English-speakers | Jun 11 01:43 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] but to everyone no matter where they're coming from | Jun 11 01:43 |
| CrystalMath | but that's a lie | Jun 11 01:44 |
| CrystalMath | it has nothing in common with chinese | Jun 11 01:44 |
| CrystalMath | and most people on this planet speak chinese | Jun 11 01:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Compare it to the projects such as Interlingua | Jun 11 01:44 |
| CrystalMath | lojban gets rid of some of those europeanisms | Jun 11 01:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] that language is so eurocentric it deserves a place in the Romance languages tree | Jun 11 01:45 |
| CrystalMath | lojban isn't | Jun 11 01:46 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and it targets people who are familiar with Romance languages at least to some extent, and makes compromises that will be comfortable to them | Jun 11 01:46 |
| CrystalMath | maybe you meant interlingua | Jun 11 01:46 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] yes, I'm explaining what interlingua is on contrast | Jun 11 01:46 |
| CrystalMath | much like how any browser is good, compared to internet explorer :P | Jun 11 01:46 |
| MinceR | afaik esperanto is just a mashup of romance, germanic and slavic languages | Jun 11 01:46 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah, and that's not much better | Jun 11 01:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's its own thing based on existing building blocs | Jun 11 01:47 |
| CrystalMath | that's every language :P | Jun 11 01:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] well, I'm saying it's not "just a mashup", it's organised into a system | Jun 11 01:48 |
| CrystalMath | but there are IALs that don't have any eurocentrisms | Jun 11 01:49 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] regarding lojban, it's just intimidating | Jun 11 01:51 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] it's definitely not designed as accessible | Jun 11 01:52 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] In that its use-case doesn't intersect all that much with Esperanto. | Jun 11 01:53 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what it's like when you can't rely on existing language knowledge that you already have :> | Jun 11 01:53 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's grammar is more complex too. | Jun 11 01:54 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] They took "unabmiguous" very-very seriously. | Jun 11 01:54 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] that may make it a more powerful language than anything else that humanity has to offer | Jun 11 01:55 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] but that affects the learning curve | Jun 11 01:55 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] What can I say, Esperanto is just a simpler system, and having so many international words (Latin, right) helps with learning not just to the Europeans, this shit is common in any urban country. | Jun 11 02:02 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] while Lojban by trying to be familiar to the most people is probably familiar to absolutely no one | Jun 11 02:04 |
| MinceR | all languages esperanto works with are still indo-european :> | Jun 11 02:04 |
| MinceR | also, interlingua is a mashup of romance languages and has that "international words" feature too | Jun 11 02:05 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: The difference with Interlingua is that it inherits some of the quirks too. | Jun 11 02:05 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Compare "questionario" to "demandaro" | Jun 11 02:08 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] one is practically Portuguese shoved into ASCII | Jun 11 02:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 02:09 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] should be pronounced something like kwesconario or kwesionario | Jun 11 02:12 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] with "c" meaning "ts" palatalised | Jun 11 02:13 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] "demandaro" is pronounced "demandaro" | Jun 11 02:13 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] So Interlingua has features that can only be explained in context of Romance languages. | Jun 11 02:16 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] It's like that because History. | Jun 11 02:16 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] also apparently words like "cheque" can be pronounced both like ŝek and like ĉek | Jun 11 02:18 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] but chef is just ŝef | Jun 11 02:19 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] chimia is kimia | Jun 11 02:19 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Why is "ch" so variable? Absolutely no reason within Interlingua itself. | Jun 11 02:19 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▆▄▆▅▇▄▅▄▄▅▆▂▃▅▆▅▅▆▅▅▆▅▅▄▅▄▆▅▅▄▄▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▃▁▂█▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 16.36▕ swarm size (avg): 242.67 ⟲ | Jun 11 02:20 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Now that's eurocentric. An English speaker will have no problem grasping these rules, they're already close to heart. | Jun 11 02:22 |
| MinceR | so which languages used as the basis for Esperanto are not European? :> | Jun 11 02:26 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: At least there's internal consistency, ye know? | Jun 11 02:27 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Except for the ĥ thing, that's a mess. | Jun 11 02:27 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] but that's also internal, there is a sound and a lot of speakers just don't like it | Jun 11 02:27 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] those Englishmen and their "I don't like /x/, I'll say /k/ instead" | Jun 11 02:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 02:28 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Which is a big mistake, how else would one say "ĥujlo"? | Jun 11 02:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 02:31 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/dartmouth-ends-misguided-investigation-after-students-rights-groups-speak-out | Jun 11 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Victory! Dartmouth Ends Unfounded Cheating Investigation After Students, Rights Groups Speak Out | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 11 02:34 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin_%C4%A5ujlo! also no such article in Lojban, is there | Jun 11 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eo.wikipedia.org | Putin ĥujlo! - Vikipedio | Jun 11 02:35 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/15-universities-have-formed-company-looks-lot-patent-troll | Jun 11 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | 15 Universities Have Formed A Company That Looks A Lot Like A Patent Troll | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 11 02:35 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/eff-files-amicus-brief-defending-right-repair-massachusetts | Jun 11 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Files Amicus Brief Defending the Right to Repair in Massachusetts | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 11 02:35 | |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] kio estas tio se ne venko fina? | Jun 11 02:42 |
| MinceR | nothing | Jun 11 02:43 |
| MinceR | ĥujlo isn't even Esperanto, is it? | Jun 11 02:44 |
| cubexyz | so did intel really phase out support for CSM? | Jun 11 02:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I mean the fact that there's no coverage of it in Lojban :D | Jun 11 02:44 |
| MinceR | good question | Jun 11 02:44 |
| MinceR | is it required of languages to cover phonemes they do not use? | Jun 11 02:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's not. | Jun 11 02:45 |
| MinceR | i doubt there's any language that uses them all | Jun 11 02:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] That's what I get for making a humourous statement | Jun 11 02:46 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] absurdist if ye will | Jun 11 02:46 |
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| MinceR | i _think_ i've seen screenshots of the Asus ExpertBook B9450 BIOS Setup with some "legacy boot" stuff in it, and that's a 2020 model, but i couldn't confirm it as i didn't understand the language of the page | Jun 11 02:47 |
| cubexyz | "you can use a discrete graphics card that supports UEFI VBIOS to make CSM configureable" | Jun 11 02:47 |
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| MinceR | can i do so with an eGPU that uses Thunderbolt 3? :> | Jun 11 02:48 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR, microsoft did funny stuff to the i8042 system | Jun 11 02:50 |
| cubexyz | PS/2 stuff doesn't work right | Jun 11 02:51 |
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| cubexyz | external GPU? interesting | Jun 11 02:52 |
| cubexyz | no idea there | Jun 11 02:53 |
| schestowitz | for mining coins | Jun 11 02:54 |
| schestowitz | [01:30] <CrystalMath> so it no longer supports CDs either :P | Jun 11 02:56 |
| -tjr-Hello! We will shortly be doing some re-routing in the next 30 minutes, we will advise once complete. | Jun 11 02:56 | |
| schestowitz | so it is a coup holder | Jun 11 02:56 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Mining coins… what are ye, Scrooge McDuck? | Jun 11 02:56 |
| schestowitz | for shot glasses :-) | Jun 11 02:56 |
| schestowitz | *cup | Jun 11 02:57 |
| AdmFubar | https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/06/10/2053244/linux-foundation-readies-global-covid-certificate-network?utm_source=rss0.9mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Jun 11 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Linux Foundation Readies Global COVID Certificate Network - Slashdot | Jun 11 03:00 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 03:02 |
| MinceR | nvm, it was scrolled up | Jun 11 03:02 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: so, the cancel mob just harassed a freenode staffer into quitting | Jun 11 03:04 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Whom? | Jun 11 03:04 |
| CrystalMath | eskimo | Jun 11 03:04 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Ariadne: congrats? :) | Jun 11 03:04 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: libera is showing itself to be right behind cancel culture at every step, and that's definitely not the people that anyone who wants tech rights should be involved with | Jun 11 03:05 |
| techrights-bot | Unless you move to #bsd or #gnu #linux I think you may be missing the point as you will never enjoy true freedom https://medevel.com/rss-readers-for-macos/ | Jun 11 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Top 10 free open-source RSS Feed Readers for macOS | Jun 11 03:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Linus #Torvalds Encourages Kernel Developers & Everyone To Get Vaccinated https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-Vaccinations https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1261141-linus-torvalds-encourages-kernel-developers-everyone-to-get-vaccinated #RMS did the same | Jun 11 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds Encourages Kernel Developers & Everyone To Get Vaccinated - Phoronix | Jun 11 03:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds Encourages Kernel Developers & Everyone To Get Vaccinated - Phoronix Forums | Jun 11 03:07 | |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: A person with an op got resigned for doing things unfitting for an op and never apologising, darn, that cancel culture… | Jun 11 03:08 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i've never witnessed even *claims* that eskimo did something bad as staff, or even that his work at freenode was anything short of exceptional | Jun 11 03:09 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] The United Russia members just say that the opposition is hype-ing when confronted with allegations that they made themselves rich on tenders and such. | Jun 11 03:10 |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/mcdonalds_ai_lawsuit/ | Jun 11 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | McDonald's AI drive-thru bot accused of breaking biometrics privacy law • The Register | Jun 11 03:11 | |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/apple_ios_15_leak_prevention/ | Jun 11 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple, it's OK. Seriously. You don't need to blind your iOS 15 engineers to prevent leaks • The Register | Jun 11 03:11 | |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: but at least you can find the opposition's claims | Jun 11 03:11 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: So, ye didn't see the stuff that Ariadne was bringing up, like cross-checking IP addresses from an IRC network and an image hosting to find newds? | Jun 11 03:12 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: that's not activity eskimo did as freenode staff | Jun 11 03:12 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: That's a violation of trust as a person with administrative powers, a very similiar job, identical even. | Jun 11 03:12 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: personally i've gotten more in-depth information regarding that and it's really not as clear cut as you think | Jun 11 03:13 |
| CrystalMath | but even if it was... even in a false reality that it was, people change | Jun 11 03:13 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: People also address their past mistakes publicly when they're brought up. | Jun 11 03:14 |
| CrystalMath | you're exhibiting an aspect of cancel culture now: presumption of guilt | Jun 11 03:14 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.databreaches.net/chief-operating-officer-of-network-security-company-charged-with-cyberattack-on-medical-center/ | Jun 11 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Chief Operating Officer of Network Security Company Charged with Cyberattack on Medical Center | Jun 11 03:14 | |
| techrights-bot | Prior art for ViCo at #epo http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100621.html#tJun%2010%2021:46:51 | Jun 11 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, June 10, 2021 | Jun 11 03:15 | |
| CrystalMath | presumption of guilt is absolutely cancel culture, and should not be tolerated | Jun 11 03:15 |
| CrystalMath | ever | Jun 11 03:15 |
| CrystalMath | everyone must be presumed innocent at every level, everywhere | Jun 11 03:15 |
| CrystalMath | until evidence to the contrary | Jun 11 03:15 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: serves em right | Jun 11 03:16 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: I'm not a court | Jun 11 03:16 |
| schestowitz | for buying food this way | Jun 11 03:16 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: that is no excuse | Jun 11 03:16 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: To me it looks this way | Jun 11 03:16 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Ariadne made some digging, the evidence looks better than his response to it. | Jun 11 03:17 |
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| CrystalMath | you maybe unwittingly participating in cancel culture, every time you exhibit: presumption of guilt, abstracting/personalizing actions into states of being, or exaggerating claims against someone | Jun 11 03:18 |
| schestowitz | if the allegation are true, it is pretty serious stuff | Jun 11 03:18 |
| schestowitz | *allegations | Jun 11 03:18 |
| schestowitz | and serious staff, stuff | Jun 11 03:18 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Aren't ye presuming that these people, even professional participants in IRC, had their due dillgence? | Jun 11 03:18 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] * hadn't | Jun 11 03:18 |
| schestowitz | bbiab | Jun 11 03:19 |
| CrystalMath | actually no, tbh, i am keeping in mind the possibility that the people making claims against eskiimo do in fact know they are false, but they have an agenda that they always serve | Jun 11 03:19 |
| CrystalMath | *eskimo | Jun 11 03:19 |
| techrights-bot | #McDonalds HEY HI. The term "HEY HI" means anything, even #surveillance when you want to disguise it (or "data science", "big data" etc.) https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/mcdonalds_ai_lawsuit/ | Jun 11 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | McDonald's AI drive-thru bot accused of breaking biometrics privacy law • The Register | Jun 11 03:20 | |
| CrystalMath | this possibility comes to me because, these people *always* mention their agenda, and it's in literally everything they do | Jun 11 03:20 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: good links, thank you | Jun 11 03:20 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Honestly I couldn't've even sacractically made up a more biased answer. | Jun 11 03:21 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86 CrystalMath let's not talk much about IRC | Jun 11 03:21 |
| schestowitz | it inflames a very high stress environment to all | Jun 11 03:21 |
| schestowitz | ime | Jun 11 03:21 |
| schestowitz | I'll just say IRC as a forum is very informal, and that has both its ups and downs | Jun 11 03:22 |
| schestowitz | like people making claims | Jun 11 03:22 |
| schestowitz | a debian dev told me a told time ago Debian devs loathed being quoted from IRC | Jun 11 03:22 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i guess you don't really want to make an article about this, but the fact that libera is run by serial harassers, and not just of RMS, is kinda related to techrights | Jun 11 03:22 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'm trying to defend Ariadne's honour here as best as I can. | Jun 11 03:22 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar has put some on-topic stuff | Jun 11 03:22 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: no, I don't know much | Jun 11 03:23 |
| schestowitz | and I don't want to get involved | Jun 11 03:23 |
| AdmFubar | schestowitz y/w | Jun 11 03:23 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne earned my respect ages ago | Jun 11 03:23 |
| schestowitz | and if she says someone did X, it's very probbale | Jun 11 03:23 |
| schestowitz | let's move on | Jun 11 03:23 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i wasn't talking about anyone specific | Jun 11 03:23 |
| CrystalMath | just to clarify that | Jun 11 03:24 |
| CrystalMath | well maybe some examples of twitter people came to my mind, but nobody i talked to directly | Jun 11 03:24 |
| techrights-bot | Chief Operating Officer of Network Security Company Charged with Cyberattack on Medical Center ⚓ https://www.databreaches.net/chief-operating-officer-of-network-security-company-charged-with-cyberattack-on-medical-center/ will #microsoft and those deploying #windows also be charged one day? http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Jun 11 03:25 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] (02:12:01) XRevan86: CrystalMath: So, ye didn't see the stuff that Ariadne was bringing up, like cross-checking IP addresses from an IRC network and an image hosting to find newds? | Jun 11 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Chief Operating Officer of Network Security Company Charged with Cyberattack on Medical Center | Jun 11 03:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Jun 11 03:25 | |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: actually no i have not read any of that, except maybe indirectly through other people perhaps? | Jun 11 03:25 |
| CrystalMath | i know what you're most likely talking about though | Jun 11 03:26 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: It is very much about her, ye should definitely ask her about the stuff she got on eskimo, as she removed it from the public eye. | Jun 11 03:27 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1403129767881236483 | Jun 11 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: as my reporting relating to his prior activities is no longer relevant to covering freenode, i will be taking the r… https://t.co/P8nlcJofxv | Jun 11 03:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: as my reporting relating to his prior activities is no longer relevant to covering freenode, i will be taking the r… https://t.co/P8nlcJofxv | Jun 11 03:27 | |
| techrights-bot | #apple is autocratic even inwards and internally. We don't want such sociopaths to run the tech world, do we? https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/apple_ios_15_leak_prevention/ | Jun 11 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple, it's OK. Seriously. You don't need to blind your iOS 15 engineers to prevent leaks • The Register | Jun 11 03:28 | |
| MinceR | looks like Asus Prime Z490-A (a mainboard from 2020 for intel CPUs) still has CSM in it >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CckmOXlEIA | Jun 11 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASUS PRIME Z490-A BIOS Overview - YouTube | Jun 11 03:29 | |
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| schestowitz | [03:24] <CrystalMath> well maybe some examples of twitter people came to my mind, but nobody i talked to directly | Jun 11 03:32 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is very bad | Jun 11 03:32 |
| schestowitz | my account there is write-only, since last year | Jun 11 03:32 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i was in fact thinking of the likes of Coraline Ada Ehmke and Sarah Mei, among some others | Jun 11 03:32 |
| schestowitz | all across the board, politics also | Jun 11 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Trump riling up dangerous and deranged people | Jun 11 03:33 |
| schestowitz | I need to check ipfs | Jun 11 03:33 |
| schestowitz | the bot fell offline before it could run the job. | Jun 11 03:33 |
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| schestowitz | some of the comments here are really bad: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1261141-linus-torvalds-encourages-kernel-developers-everyone-to-get-vaccinated | Jun 11 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds Encourages Kernel Developers & Everyone To Get Vaccinated - Phoronix Forums | Jun 11 03:35 | |
| schestowitz | some anti-vaxers in Phoronix forums | Jun 11 03:35 |
| schestowitz | they should instead focus on LF promoting mass spying | Jun 11 03:35 |
| schestowitz | misusing the "LINUX" name to by 'trust' | Jun 11 03:36 |
| schestowitz | *buy | Jun 11 03:36 |
| schestowitz | [01:30] <CrystalMath> schestowitz: i have a 1996 CD-ROM reader that doesn't support DVDs | Jun 11 03:36 |
| schestowitz | Nice | Jun 11 03:36 |
| schestowitz | but those don't last long, and rarely do | Jun 11 03:36 |
| cubexyz | CD-ROM reads can last a long time | Jun 11 03:37 |
| cubexyz | readers | Jun 11 03:37 |
| schestowitz | my samsung stereo from 1994 stopped working for the CD drive within less than 10 years | Jun 11 03:37 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i thought you already dubbed it a cup holder :) | Jun 11 03:37 |
| schestowitz | the cassette drive lasted longer | Jun 11 03:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I know some people who studied and mastered esperanto | Jun 11 03:38 |
| cubexyz | my 1991 stereo cd player still works, but yeah I got a huge pile of non-working cdrom drives | Jun 11 03:38 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure if there's anyone that fixes them | Jun 11 03:39 |
| MinceR | here's one that seems to be from this year and still has CSM >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtBmsh7xw1I | Jun 11 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asus TUF B560M Bios Overview, Setup, Memory Tuning and VRMs Test - YouTube | Jun 11 03:39 | |
| schestowitz | [03:00] <AdmFubar> https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/06/10/2053244/linux-foundation-readies-global-covid-certificate-network?utm_source=rss0.9mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed | Jun 11 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Linux Foundation Readies Global COVID Certificate Network - Slashdot | Jun 11 03:39 | |
| schestowitz | I remarked on that earlier on | Jun 11 03:39 |
| MinceR | maybe Asus is keeping it alive | Jun 11 03:39 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Darn, Ariadne removed the post with a screenshot of eskimo de-opping thumbs from ##vim | Jun 11 03:39 |
| schestowitz | [01:29] <techrights-bot> "Hmm no: the COVID passport proves your body is clean. The Chinese social credit system proves your mind is clean." https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/06/10/2053244/linux-foundation-readies-global-covid-certificate-network #linuxfoundation = pure garbage http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Linux Foundation Readies Global COVID Certificate Network - Slashdot | Jun 11 03:39 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] with a snarky comment too | Jun 11 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 03:39 | |
| cubexyz | techrights should have a list of recommended motherboards | Jun 11 03:39 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Anyway, when a project considers an IRC network, they want a reliable place, and things like that are part of the consideration. | Jun 11 03:40 |
| MinceR | i'm looking for laptops, but i figure if they keep it in their BIOS on mainboards, presumably they keep it also on their laptops | Jun 11 03:40 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] And on one side there's "cancel culture, oh no, they'll eat your children", on the other – ops just take over channels because of a personal grudge | Jun 11 03:41 |
| kingoffrance | hmm the " Chief Operating Officer of Network Security Company Charged with Cyberattack on Medical Center" doesnt say much, nor does indictment. maybe he dosed them so he could then turn around and sell services? | Jun 11 03:41 |
| schestowitz | [03:37] <CrystalMath> schestowitz: i thought you already dubbed it a cup holder :) | Jun 11 03:41 |
| schestowitz | sorry, I'm slow | Jun 11 03:41 |
| schestowitz | I went to sleep 1:30am | Jun 11 03:41 |
| schestowitz | woke up 2:30am | Jun 11 03:41 |
| schestowitz | had to stay up to edit and IRC log and remove something that should not be in them | Jun 11 03:42 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] or claims of being "hostile to free software" on one side | Jun 11 03:42 |
| schestowitz | entered a 10-minute break into the cron job | Jun 11 03:42 |
| schestowitz | so was super-tired after just 1-hour sleep, am still drinking coffee right now. | Jun 11 03:42 |
| schestowitz | [03:39] <cubexyz> techrights should have a list of recommended motherboards | Jun 11 03:42 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/06/book-review-mine-how-the-hidden-rules-of-ownership-control-our-lives.html | Jun 11 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Book Review: "Mine! How the Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives" | naked capitalism | Jun 11 03:42 | |
| schestowitz | if you want to maintain such a list | Jun 11 03:42 |
| cubexyz | I can recommend old stuff | Jun 11 03:43 |
| schestowitz | sure... | Jun 11 03:43 |
| schestowitz | you have much experience with old hardware | Jun 11 03:44 |
| cubexyz | Dell Precision T3600, used by various computer scientists | Jun 11 03:44 |
| schestowitz | we lost 'ted' a year ago, it was a 2009 laptop | Jun 11 03:44 |
| cubexyz | 2014, you can buy used in ebay | Jun 11 03:44 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/06/u-s-southwest-already-parched-sees-virtual-water-drain-abroad.html | Jun 11 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | U.S. Southwest, Already Parched, Sees ‘Virtual Water’ Drain Abroad | naked capitalism | Jun 11 03:45 | |
| cubexyz | some of the UK shortwave transmitter towers are 1930s tech | Jun 11 03:45 |
| cubexyz | UK gov is trying to defund of course | Jun 11 03:46 |
| techrights-bot | U.S. Southwest, Already Parched, Sees ‘Virtual Water’ Drain Abroad | naked capitalism ⚓ https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/06/u-s-southwest-already-parched-sees-virtual-water-drain-abroad.html ䷉ "global companies are worsening the water crisis." | Jun 11 03:46 |
| cubexyz | it's not motherboards, but if you want to know what has lasted for me: | Jun 11 03:47 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/computer-longevity.txt | Jun 11 03:47 |
| cubexyz | there's some motherboard's listed in there | Jun 11 03:47 |
| schestowitz | "Vic-20 1981 (oldest working computer of any type)" | Jun 11 03:47 |
| schestowitz | [01:23] <CrystalMath> sadly i have no 80s computers :( | Jun 11 03:47 |
| schestowitz | ^^^ | Jun 11 03:47 |
| schestowitz | ding ding sing | Jun 11 03:47 |
| schestowitz | [01:24] <schestowitz> cubexyz might have some | Jun 11 03:47 |
| cubexyz | I do | Jun 11 03:48 |
| MinceR | i have a Sinclair ZX Spectrum, but it never worked particularly well | Jun 11 03:48 |
| schestowitz | "Quantum 49MB LP52S 9505 1990" | Jun 11 03:49 |
| schestowitz | Wow, you can almost put a video on it! | Jun 11 03:49 |
| cubexyz | haha | Jun 11 03:49 |
| schestowitz | or a flatpak | Jun 11 03:49 |
| schestowitz | or some text editor with all the bloat around that | Jun 11 03:49 |
| AdmFubar | still have a vic-20 and an commadore sx-64 | Jun 11 03:49 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, which OS would you recommend for 49 megs or less? :) | Jun 11 03:50 |
| schestowitz | "Amiga 1080 CRT nov 1985" | Jun 11 03:50 |
| schestowitz | Still working? | Jun 11 03:50 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 11 03:50 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: Linux can do.. | Jun 11 03:50 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Leo Trotsky, a hardcore communist, left a country that declared a lot of his views as national policy to a country that it the furthest from that. | Jun 11 03:50 |
| schestowitz | but not with a desktop | Jun 11 03:50 |
| cubexyz | amigados 1.3 is on there actually | Jun 11 03:51 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: that's just an inventory/list | Jun 11 03:51 |
| AdmFubar | https://wireframe.raspberrypi.org/books/computers-that-made-britain | Jun 11 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wireframe.raspberrypi.org | The Computers That Made Britain — Wireframe Magazine | Jun 11 03:51 | |
| schestowitz | not much that we can do with it, it is based on luck or one person's experience | Jun 11 03:51 |
| cubexyz | that's true | Jun 11 03:51 |
| schestowitz | you have HP LaserJet 5N | Jun 11 03:52 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Why? Because the latter was okay with letting him be. He was more okay with a country where the bourgeoise exploits the proletariat because at least they weren't assassinating people. | Jun 11 03:52 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what happened to my HP LaserJet from around 1995 | Jun 11 03:52 |
| schestowitz | it might still work, the cartridges might be hard to find | Jun 11 03:52 |
| cubexyz | ok, the laserjet was fixed a few times, so repairable... | Jun 11 03:52 |
| cubexyz | that's significant | Jun 11 03:52 |
| schestowitz | I have a scanner from the 90s | Jun 11 03:52 |
| schestowitz | have not tried it for ages though | Jun 11 03:52 |
| schestowitz | scanners nowadays come with many printers and lots of people use their phone cameras instead of scanners | Jun 11 03:53 |
| cubexyz | staples has refurbished cartridges for laserjet 5 | Jun 11 03:53 |
| AdmFubar | I have a scsi based scanner | Jun 11 03:53 |
| cubexyz | my old mustek needs a new power supply | Jun 11 03:54 |
| cubexyz | still looking for one | Jun 11 03:55 |
| schestowitz | mustek :-) | Jun 11 03:55 |
| schestowitz | does anyone in the world still find use for zip drives? | Jun 11 03:56 |
| schestowitz | iomega was probably sold | Jun 11 03:56 |
| CrystalMath | i have a floppy drive :) | Jun 11 03:56 |
| schestowitz | I can probably repair my laptop with a floppy drive | Jun 11 03:56 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo now I think | Jun 11 03:56 |
| schestowitz | but it runs dsl on 32 mb of ram | Jun 11 03:56 |
| schestowitz | not worth the cost or repair | Jun 11 03:57 |
| AdmFubar | I do have 3.5 inch usb floppy... just in case someone hands me something old... | Jun 11 03:57 |
| cubexyz | I need an 8 inch floppy drive, but much $$$ required | Jun 11 03:57 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] So abstract statements like "hostility against free software" are great and all, but it the free software community somehow still leans towards the staff they know what to expect from rather than a wildcard staff that already managed to have a less than stellar track record. It's not ideology, it's trust in the process. | Jun 11 03:57 |
| MinceR | 11 045611 < schestowitz> does anyone in the world still find use for zip drives? | Jun 11 03:57 |
| MinceR | sure, one use is to show them off in videos :> | Jun 11 03:58 |
| AdmFubar | awww I had several of those from an old apollo dn-300 workstation | Jun 11 03:58 |
| cubexyz | zip drives -> retro computing, that's all I would think | Jun 11 03:58 |
| tr-bridge | [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: it's not like there are only 2 (or 3) options | Jun 11 03:58 |
| techrights-bot | 2 hours ago: "Tape is somewhat unique in that #IBM is the sole manufacturer of LTO - resold by Spectra Logic and Quantum (among others) who compete quite successfully against IBM in various markets." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies | Jun 11 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 03:58 | |
| techrights-bot | "I’m happy to see there is still a sense of humor out there." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain #exodus #lowMorale https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bgqXUN4#replies | Jun 11 03:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | First day at my new job... - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 03:59 | |
| schestowitz | [03:57] <cubexyz> I need an 8 inch floppy drive, but much $$$ required | Jun 11 04:00 |
| schestowitz | some nuclear facilities used them until 2 years agi | Jun 11 04:00 |
| schestowitz | I reckon some still do | Jun 11 04:00 |
| schestowitz | nuclear weapons systems | Jun 11 04:01 |
| cubexyz | usually around $300 to $400 | Jun 11 04:01 |
| cubexyz | those 8 inch floppies were pretty durable | Jun 11 04:01 |
| AdmFubar | check your local ham fests for old hardware. | Jun 11 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Re: IBM lobbying | Jun 11 04:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/1402985753135570948 | Jun 11 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: Linux Foundation readies Global COVID Certificate Network https://t.co/0YMPdXUrsG via @ZDNet & @sjvn Thanks to… https://t.co/qfXH3IGzaF | Jun 11 04:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Foundation readies Global COVID Certificate Network | ZDNet | Jun 11 04:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: Linux Foundation readies Global COVID Certificate Network https://t.co/0YMPdXUrsG via @ZDNet & @sjvn Thanks to… https://t.co/qfXH3IGzaF | Jun 11 04:02 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, IBM sponsoring this too: http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 04:03 | |
| techrights-bot | #zdnet is just a #marketing and #propaganda site. It's only PRETENDING to be a "news" site. #Microsoft and #IBM sponsoring this too: http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 04:05 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm has purely financial motivations to attack #rms and by extension #fsf and #gnu #gpl http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | Jun 11 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | Jun 11 04:06 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: How easy is it to pick a network for a very long term? Which isn't OFTC and LC. Surely only a very few will bother setting up their own, like GNU. And the rest will choose the most well-known reliable public option. | Jun 11 04:07 |
| MinceR | depends on who does the picking | Jun 11 04:07 |
| MinceR | for me, it's pretty easy | Jun 11 04:08 |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman wrote on 10/06/2021 04:31: | Jun 11 04:08 |
| schestowitz | > > Do you know when a video of your talk with the Brazilians might be | Jun 11 04:08 |
| schestowitz | > > available online at http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2021 ? | Jun 11 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-audio-video.gnu.org | Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation | Jun 11 04:08 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 04:08 |
| schestowitz | > I will ask. | Jun 11 04:08 |
| AdmFubar | https://insights.sei.cmu.edu/blog/cat-and-mouse-age-net/ | Jun 11 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.sei.cmu.edu | Cat and Mouse in the Age of .NET | Jun 11 04:09 | |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, June 10, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 11 04:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jun 11 04:11 | |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 11 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 11 04:12 | |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: ah, thanks | Jun 11 04:12 |
| schestowitz | a tad too old for Daily Links | Jun 11 04:12 |
| schestowitz | for many people those things were not relevant ever | Jun 11 04:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft fliurished (owing to crimes) in the 1990s | Jun 11 04:13 |
| schestowitz | downhill from there | Jun 11 04:13 |
| schestowitz | never flourished since, then tried to buy shithub.... loses money on it | Jun 11 04:13 |
| techrights-bot | #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152172 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 04:14 | |
| techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152171 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 04:14 | |
| schestowitz | 4am ipfs check OK, seems it was just an irc issue | Jun 11 04:14 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is in trouble, so it's trying to cause trouble to #freesw and we cannot just ignore IBM (and #redhat staff) doing this to us. Fight back. They're no better ally than #novell was after liaising with #microsoft | Jun 11 04:16 |
| cubexyz | http://laptopwithlinux.com/linux-laptops/ | Jun 11 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buy Linux Laptop? Laptops with Linux preïnstalled | Laptopwithlinux.com | Jun 11 04:16 | |
| schestowitz | it's not hard to make them | Jun 11 04:21 |
| cubexyz | everybody seems to use iphone, samsung, win10 these days | Jun 11 04:21 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▆▃▄▅▄▅▅▄▅▃▃▄▃▄▅▅▆▅▃▅▄▄▅▅▆▆▆▇▆▄▄▄▅▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 23.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 5.90▕ swarm size (avg): 242.81 ⟲ | Jun 11 04:21 |
| schestowitz | certifying and all is the hard part, or verifying what/if everything works | Jun 11 04:21 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe people also buy cars | Jun 11 04:21 |
| schestowitz | which they barely use | Jun 11 04:21 |
| cubexyz | or just buy a decent chromebook | Jun 11 04:21 |
| schestowitz | some of the newer ones are hard to wipe | Jun 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz | not sure if crouton still runs on them | Jun 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Google now pushes that Crostini crap | Jun 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz | which sounds to me a bit like WSL | Jun 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz | giving you a false sense of "LINUX" | Jun 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz | while actually you run malware at every level | Jun 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz | google should not get a free pass, either | Jun 11 04:23 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't really know what to recommend... hence my return to IRC | Jun 11 04:23 |
| schestowitz | do you use gemini? | Jun 11 04:23 |
| schestowitz | https://hackaday.com/2021/05/24/running-modern-linux-from-a-single-floppy-disk/ | Jun 11 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running Modern Linux From A Single Floppy Disk | Hackaday | Jun 11 04:24 | |
| cubexyz | if you mean the firmware, no | Jun 11 04:24 |
| schestowitz | last month | Jun 11 04:24 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: no, the www alternative | Jun 11 04:24 |
| cubexyz | oh | Jun 11 04:24 |
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| cubexyz | totally new to me | Jun 11 04:25 |
| AdmFubar | https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/06/09/cisa-addresses-rise-ransomware-targeting-operational-technology | Jun 11 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | CISA Addresses the Rise in Ransomware Targeting Operational Technology Assets | CISA | Jun 11 04:26 | |
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| cubexyz | seems like it could be my cup of tea | Jun 11 04:27 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: no mention of Windows | Jun 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz | typical | Jun 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz | 'vendor-neutral' | Jun 11 04:29 |
| schestowitz | ransom... just happens(R) | Jun 11 04:29 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I wrote about it yesterday in http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/techrights-gemini-capsule/ | Jun 11 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Improvements in the Techrights Gemini Capsule | Techrights | Jun 11 04:29 | |
| schestowitz | you can read things on 386 | Jun 11 04:29 |
| schestowitz | provided you can compile ssl/tls stuff for it | Jun 11 04:29 |
| cubexyz | ha, if only I kept a few 386's | Jun 11 04:29 |
| schestowitz | I heard 486 would cope better | Jun 11 04:29 |
| AdmFubar | just like it is mentioned that it is a "computer virus" not an "operating system virus" | Jun 11 04:30 |
| AdmFubar | https://puri.sm/ | Jun 11 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Beautiful, Secure, Privacy-Respecting Devices - Purism | Jun 11 04:30 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Well, back in the day the operating system was more or less static. | Jun 11 04:30 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They did patches for single issues at a time or a new DirectX, but it wasn't anything nearly as crazy as what goes on now. | Jun 11 04:30 |
| cubexyz | any recommendations on which browser one should use for gemini protocol? | Jun 11 04:31 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Broken patches raining down on you every month for issues that you might not even be experiencing. | Jun 11 04:31 |
| techrights-bot | Conspicuously absent: mention of #microsoft #windows with #nsa #backdoors that lead to or give rise to ransom https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/06/09/cisa-addresses-rise-ransomware-targeting-operational-technology | Jun 11 04:31 |
| techrights-bot | #Linux #Kernel Becomes #COVID19 Battlezone • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152173 #TuxMachines | Jun 11 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Becomes COVID-19 Battlezone | Tux Machines | Jun 11 04:31 | |
| schestowitz | [04:31] <cubexyz> any recommendations on which browser one should use for gemini protocol? | Jun 11 04:32 |
| schestowitz | which OS? | Jun 11 04:32 |
| cubexyz | slackware or openbsd | Jun 11 04:33 |
| schestowitz | i know many clients and software for gemini, but some distros have it prepackaged | Jun 11 04:33 |
| schestowitz | openbsd has some low-level CLI clients | Jun 11 04:33 |
| schestowitz | solene made one IIRC | Jun 11 04:33 |
| schestowitz | actually a server: https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-01-02-gemini-vger-redirect.html | Jun 11 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene's percent % : Vger gemini server can now redirect | Jun 11 04:33 | |
| cubexyz | the web seems a bit hostile to text only browsers | Jun 11 04:34 |
| AdmFubar | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol) <find some gemini clients here | Jun 11 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gemini (protocol) - Wikipedia | Jun 11 04:34 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | LaGrange seems to work fine. | Jun 11 04:34 |
| schestowitz | https://gemini.susa.net:1993/cgi-bin/Proxy.sh?url=gemini%3A%2F%2Fperso.pw%2F | Jun 11 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Jun 11 04:35 | |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: not sure if build for openbsd | Jun 11 04:35 |
| schestowitz | *built | Jun 11 04:35 |
| schestowitz | https://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/ | Jun 11 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gemini.circumlunar.space | Gemini software | Jun 11 04:36 | |
| AdmFubar | https://threatpost.com/custom-malware-stolen-data/166753/ | Jun 11 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mysterious Custom Malware Collects Billions of Stolen Data Points | Threatpost | Jun 11 04:38 | |
| AdmFubar | https://threatpost.com/billions-of-compromised-records-and-counting/166633/ | Jun 11 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-threatpost.com | Application Layer is Still the Front Door for Data Breaches | Jun 11 04:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Windows-based computers" | Jun 11 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Should say it in the headline | Jun 11 04:39 |
| schestowitz | they only name if it "LINUX" | Jun 11 04:39 |
| techrights-bot | "stolen data, lifted from 3.2 million Windows-based computers over the course of two years" https://threatpost.com/custom-malware-stolen-data/166753/ | Jun 11 04:40 |
| BaronVladimirHar | https://www.npr.org/2021/06/10/1005233221/senator-presses-landlord-over-report-it-evicts-black-renters-at-higher-rates | Jun 11 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Senator Wants Answers From Corporate Landlord About Pandemic Evictions : NPR | Jun 11 04:41 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | We had the "Gang Police" out here the other day. | Jun 11 04:42 |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft #windows is good. But not for you. For crackers. https://threatpost.com/microsoft-cryptomining-kubeflow/166777/ | Jun 11 04:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft: Big Cryptomining Attacks Hit Kubeflow | Threatpost | Jun 11 04:42 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | I told Mandy "Well, at least they're nice enough to say that on their vest, so it's a safe bet they're not here for me.". | Jun 11 04:42 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: keep this off topic stuff somewhere else | Jun 11 04:43 |
| schestowitz | you just want to interject racist trope | Jun 11 04:43 |
| BaronVladimirHar | MARISOL got a bunch of tickets and then invested like $1,400 into a 360 degree radar detection system that had to be installed in her car. | Jun 11 04:44 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I suppose it works. Mandy says she goes 80 down county roads and stuff and nothing in the court records since then. It's nice how money makes problems go away. | Jun 11 04:44 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: new: https://www.bsdnow.tv/406 | Jun 11 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 406: Jailed Gemini Capsule | Jun 11 04:44 | |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, thanks | Jun 11 04:46 |
| cubexyz | much to learn I have :) | Jun 11 04:46 |
| schestowitz | gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/vger-security.gmi | Jun 11 04:46 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: we are at gemini.techrights.org | Jun 11 04:47 |
| schestowitz | 36,000 pages almost | Jun 11 04:47 |
| schestowitz | most of the site | Jun 11 04:47 |
| kingoffrance | how much are/were you into apollo stuff AdmFubar ? "awww I had several of those from an old apollo dn-300 workstation" | Jun 11 04:47 |
| schestowitz | we are the biggest capsule | Jun 11 04:47 |
| MinceR | lagrange is ugly as hell | Jun 11 04:47 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Jun 11 04:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Jun 11 04:47 |
| MinceR | lagrange and kristall both have broken selection handling | Jun 11 04:48 |
| schestowitz | they use a very odd toolkit | Jun 11 04:48 |
| cubexyz | what, motif? :) | Jun 11 04:48 |
| schestowitz | moonlander uses gtk, but very crude alpha | Jun 11 04:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: also copy/paste | Jun 11 04:48 |
| MinceR | lagrange only allows choice from something like 6 typefaces | Jun 11 04:48 |
| schestowitz | very hard to use those | Jun 11 04:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: and 'dark mode' | Jun 11 04:48 |
| kingoffrance | AdmFubar, i have a missing gcc version to track down to build a cross compiler for apollo inside mame (patches exist, but never found the right source tree) :) | Jun 11 04:48 |
| MinceR | i think the broken handling of selection is due to Qt | Jun 11 04:48 |
| MinceR | Qt always fucked this up | Jun 11 04:48 |
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| AdmFubar | some friends and I bought them used from the gov, we wanted to learn unix at the time... early 90's | Jun 11 04:49 |
| kingoffrance | ah, im too young. | Jun 11 04:50 |
| cubexyz | some folks ran xenix on 286s... the bad old days | Jun 11 04:50 |
| cubexyz | early 1990s was an interesting time | Jun 11 04:51 |
| cubexyz | I started to see internet gateways for BBSes | Jun 11 04:52 |
| samiamsam | that's when i first got computers | Jun 11 04:53 |
| samiamsam | the first time i used unix was through a bbs | Jun 11 04:54 |
| samiamsam | and internet | Jun 11 04:54 |
| cubexyz | I think Commodore and Atari were still around, there wasn't the same mono-culture back then | Jun 11 04:54 |
| schestowitz | gopher://jan.bio/ | Jun 11 04:55 |
| AdmFubar | had cbm machines 80 thru mid 90's | Jun 11 04:56 |
| schestowitz | my kde/kwin compositor sometimes crashes because of langrange | Jun 11 04:58 |
| schestowitz | since like forever, when lagrange was first install | Jun 11 04:58 |
| schestowitz | *installed months ago | Jun 11 04:58 |
| AdmFubar | today is more like the early days of computers where they are fun again. | Jun 11 04:58 |
| schestowitz | under some circumstances it will take down or disable to compositor | Jun 11 04:58 |
| schestowitz | maybe it uses that for smooth scrolling | Jun 11 04:59 |
| MinceR | lagrange says it uses SDL | Jun 11 04:59 |
| cubexyz | there's more DIY now | Jun 11 04:59 |
| kingoffrance | actually gcc 2.5.6 can "back patch" to, the mysterious binutils-2.0 is what is missing for linker etc | Jun 11 04:59 |
| MinceR | pretty weird choice for a GUI application that runs in a window and isn't a game | Jun 11 04:59 |
| cubexyz | people seem to be more knowledgeable dare I say? | Jun 11 04:59 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it most works despite all that | Jun 11 05:00 |
| schestowitz | iirc, sdl 2 moved to shithub | Jun 11 05:00 |
| AdmFubar | the openess of today is more like the amiga pd software years.. | Jun 11 05:00 |
| schestowitz | that's the end of them (to me at least) | Jun 11 05:00 |
| MinceR | well, you could still mirror the repo | Jun 11 05:00 |
| cubexyz | fish disks :) | Jun 11 05:00 |
| AdmFubar | yeah | Jun 11 05:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: did you get a client installed? | Jun 11 05:01 |
| schestowitz | feedback welcome | Jun 11 05:01 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, not yet | Jun 11 05:01 |
| MinceR | i thought of making a git mirroring tool that makes sure that no matter what the source says, no data will be removed or made unavailable, just new changesets added | Jun 11 05:01 |
| schestowitz | I have put aside time to improve our capsule, slept one hour only so far | Jun 11 05:01 |
| MinceR | but i don't know git well enough to know how to do that | Jun 11 05:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: we need to undermine git centralisation | Jun 11 05:02 |
| AdmFubar | roy, get some rest... | Jun 11 05:02 |
| schestowitz | notably github | Jun 11 05:02 |
| MinceR | or just to clone the repo regularly and deduplicate between the copies | Jun 11 05:02 |
| schestowitz | guess the centralise gitlab too is a problem | Jun 11 05:02 |
| cubexyz | trying ncgopher now... hopefully I'm on the right track | Jun 11 05:02 |
| schestowitz | *centralised as in gitlab.com | Jun 11 05:02 |
| MinceR | of course, none of this would pick up stuff like bug tracking and CI, but at least it would provide a basis to fork from | Jun 11 05:02 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: it probably won't handle gemini:// | Jun 11 05:02 |
| cubexyz | it does say ncgopher is a gopher and gemini client | Jun 11 05:03 |
| schestowitz | oddly enough distro sites never have gemini presence at all | Jun 11 05:03 |
| MinceR | in any case, just automatically mirroring shithub would need a massive amount of storage | Jun 11 05:03 |
| cubexyz | techrights the distro :) | Jun 11 05:03 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/calligra-gemini-bug-on-slackware-current-blank-screen-4175689196/ | Jun 11 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Calligra Gemini bug on Slackware current - blank screen | Jun 11 05:03 | |
| AdmFubar | can gemini handle iso's? | Jun 11 05:04 |
| schestowitz | https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2020/001378.html | Jun 11 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Packaging Gemini Software for Slackware | Jun 11 05:04 | |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: no | Jun 11 05:04 |
| MinceR | even a request-based one (similarly to archive.is) would need a massive amount of storage | Jun 11 05:04 |
| schestowitz | not reliably | Jun 11 05:04 |
| schestowitz | but it can point to them, for other software to fetch | Jun 11 05:04 |
| AdmFubar | kinda defeats the purpose of the distro's being there | Jun 11 05:04 |
| schestowitz | not necessarily | Jun 11 05:04 |
| schestowitz | can also put videos there | Jun 11 05:04 |
| schestowitz | and when you click it goes to the media player | Jun 11 05:05 |
| schestowitz | can direct people to hashes or magnets | Jun 11 05:05 |
| schestowitz | and provided checksum | Jun 11 05:05 |
| schestowitz | many distros just point to mirrors outside their own domain | Jun 11 05:05 |
| MinceR | some encourage using bittorrent to get iso images | Jun 11 05:06 |
| techrights-bot | Gemini capsules in a BSD jail https://www.bsdnow.tv/406 #geminiProtocol becoming more mainstream in #bsd world... | Jun 11 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 406: Jailed Gemini Capsule | Jun 11 05:06 | |
| AdmFubar | checksums need to be elsewhere for better security | Jun 11 05:07 |
| cubexyz | compiled ncgopher, running now | Jun 11 05:07 |
| schestowitz | amfora is build for many OSes | Jun 11 05:08 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, looking at gemini://gemini.techrights.org now | Jun 11 05:08 |
| cubexyz | seems to work | Jun 11 05:08 |
| schestowitz | but it's rusty and shithubbed | Jun 11 05:08 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: home-hosted, too | Jun 11 05:08 |
| cubexyz | does google search gemini pages? | Jun 11 05:10 |
| AdmFubar | I need to view the insides of my eyelids.. nights | Jun 11 05:13 |
| MinceR | o/ | Jun 11 05:13 |
| cubexyz | later | Jun 11 05:13 |
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| schestowitz | gemini://otrn.org/updates/2021-01-20-on-gemini.gmi | Jun 11 05:15 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: not directly | Jun 11 05:16 |
| schestowitz | but it finds many through www proxies/gateways | Jun 11 05:16 |
| schestowitz | and so many are indexed that way in techrights for instance | Jun 11 05:16 |
| schestowitz | gemini://gemini.conman.org/test/torture/ | Jun 11 05:18 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▅▅▆▅▅▄▅▆▄▆▆▆▅▅▄▇▃▅▄▃▅▆▅▆▆▆▃▆▇▁ avg(k/sec) 25.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 7.18▕ swarm size (avg): 242.86 ⟲ | Jun 11 05:20 |
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| techrights-bot | Quick Guide to #Ubuntu Calculator https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2021/06/quick-guide-to-ubuntu-calculator.html #gnu #linux | Jun 11 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Quick Guide to Ubuntu Calculator | Jun 11 05:55 | |
| techrights-bot | Linux in the Ham Shack Episode #415: Open Research Institute Deep Dive 2 https://lhspodcast.info/2021/06/lhs-episode-415-open-research-institute-deep-dive-2-2/ | Jun 11 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #415: Open Research Institute Deep Dive 2 | Linux in the Ham Shack | Jun 11 05:56 | |
| techrights-bot | Old #Motorola 68000 Systems Can Finally Move Away From Linux's Deprecated IDE Code - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=m68k-Switches-To-Libata ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Old Motorola 68000 Systems Can Finally Move Away From Linux's Deprecated IDE Code - Phoronix | Jun 11 05:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 05:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #PHP 8.1 as Software Collection https://blog.remirepo.net/post/2021/06/11/PHP-8.1-as-Software-Collection #ibm #redhat #fedora | Jun 11 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.remirepo.net | PHP 8.1 as Software Collection - Remi's RPM repository - Blog | Jun 11 05:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Lists of Tiddlers using Multiple Tags | #TiddlyWiki https://cubiclenate.com/2021/06/10/lists-multiple-tags-tiddlywiki/ | Jun 11 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lists of Tiddlers using Multiple Tags | TiddlyWiki – CubicleNate's Techpad | Jun 11 06:01 | |
| techrights-bot | #EPO ‘ViCo’ Prior Art (or #ViCo Going Back to the 1980s) http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/vico-80s-prior-art/ #europe #priorart #patents | Jun 11 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO ‘ViCo’ Prior Art (or ViCo Going Back to the 1980s) | Techrights | Jun 11 06:03 | |
| techrights-bot | Virtual Injustice — Part 3: All the President’s Men… http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/presidential-minions/ #epo #corruption #europe #kangaroocourt | Jun 11 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice — Part 3: All the President’s Men… | Techrights | Jun 11 06:04 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● [Old] ● #MichaelWaltz #BSD ☞ Gemini Capsule in a #FreeBSD Jail https://www.ecliptik.com/Gemini-Capsule-in-a-FreeBSD-Jail/ | Jun 11 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ecliptik.com | Gemini Capsule in a FreeBSD Jail - Micheal Waltz - Principal Site Reliability Engineer | Jun 11 08:56 | |
| techrights-bot | #OpenHardware 101: An Introduction for Policymakers https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/open-hardware-101-introduction-policymakers | Jun 11 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Open Hardware 101: An Introduction for Policymakers | Joinup | Jun 11 08:57 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheRegisterUK ☞ Seven-year-old make-me-root bug in Linux kernel patched https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linux_polkit_bug/ | Jun 11 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Seven-year-old make-me-root bug in Linux service polkit patched • The Register | Jun 11 08:57 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Neowin #Health ☞ Linus Torvalds asks COVID vaccine conspiracy theorist to "SHUT THE HELL UP" https://www.neowin.net/news/linus-torvalds-asks-covid-vaccine-conspiracy-theorist-to-shut-the-hell-up/ | Jun 11 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Linus Torvalds asks COVID vaccine conspiracy theorist to "SHUT THE HELL UP" - Neowin | Jun 11 08:59 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ The Trump administration forced Apple to secretly reveal at least two Democrats’ data https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/10/22528853/trump-force-apple-democrat-house-intelligence-committee-data | Jun 11 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Trump administration forced Apple to secretly reveal at least two Democrats’ data - The Verge | Jun 11 09:01 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Kaspersky trio spots Vista-era zero-days exploited through Chrome https://itwire.com/security/kaspersky-trio-spots-vista-era-zero-days-exploited-through-chrome.html | Jun 11 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Kaspersky trio spots Vista-era zero-days exploited through Chrome | Jun 11 09:01 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #EA got hit by a data breach, and hackers are selling source code https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/10/22528003/ea-data-breach-frostbite-fifa-internal-tools-hack | Jun 11 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | EA got hit by a data breach, and hackers are selling source code - The Verge | Jun 11 09:01 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheHill #Surveillance ☞ #EU #privacy regulator proposes $425M fine against #Amazon https://thehill.com/policy/technology/557863-eu-privacy-regulator-proposes-425m-fine-against-amazon | Jun 11 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU privacy regulator proposes $425M fine against Amazon | TheHill | Jun 11 09:03 | |
| techrights-bot | A previous post (video from yesterday) gave examples of prior art from the early/ier 1990s, debunking the EPO’s foolish and irrational embrace of this notion that so-called ‘ViCo’ is so absolutely incredible • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/vico-80s-prior-art/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/vico-80s-prior-art/ | Jun 11 09:03 |
| techrights-bot | Benoît Battistelli‘s army of minions, combined with former colleagues of #AntónioCampinos, team up to participate in the legal fudge of the #EPO • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/presidential-minions/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/presidential-minions/ | Jun 11 09:04 |
| techrights-bot | 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 10, 2021 • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/irc-log-100621/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/irc-log-100621/ | Jun 11 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 10, 2021 | Techrights | Jun 11 09:05 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheHill #Politics ☞ State Department urges #Nigeria to reverse #Twitter ban https://thehill.com/policy/technology/557834-state-department-urges-nigeria-to-reverse-twitter-ban | Jun 11 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-State Department urges Nigeria to reverse Twitter ban | TheHill | Jun 11 09:09 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NBC #Misinformation #Disinformation ☞ Pastor battles human smugglers on #Facebook https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/pastor-battles-human-smugglers-facebook-n1270383 | Jun 11 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Pastor battles human smugglers on Facebook | Jun 11 09:10 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Salon #Misinformation #Disinformation ☞ #Texas AG could be disbarred over bogus push to overturn 2020 election: report https://www.salon.com/2021/06/10/texas-ag-may-be-disbarred-over-bogus-push-to-overturn-2020-election-report/ | Jun 11 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Texas AG could be disbarred over bogus push to overturn 2020 election: report | Salon.com | Jun 11 09:10 | |
| techrights-bot | Latest comment in these boards: " #Ibm is reopening their welfare camps" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bh52BMX#replies | Jun 11 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | September 7th 2021 - IBM workers are returning to the office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 09:11 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ The Computers That Made Britain on sale now https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-computers-that-made-britain-on-sale-now/ | Jun 11 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | The Computers That Made Britain on sale now - Raspberry Pi | Jun 11 09:12 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Site36 ☞ Germany: Trojans for all https://digit.site36.net/2021/06/10/germany-trojans-for-all/ | Jun 11 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Germany: Trojans for all – Matthias Monroy | Jun 11 09:13 | |
| techrights-bot | old: #ianmurdock site and his take on package managers (which #microsoft is now copying, decades late) https://web.archive.org/web/20160324011037/http://ianmurdock.com/solaris/how-package-management-changed-everything/ | Jun 11 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | How package management changed everything | Ian Murdock | Jun 11 09:15 | |
| techrights-bot | #decentralization #selfhosting https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/what-is-decentralization-the-future-of:5 | Jun 11 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | What Is Decentralization: The Future Of Tech? | Jun 11 09:15 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CreativeCommons ☞ We’re Launching the CC Open GLAM Program https://creativecommons.org/2021/06/10/were-launching-the-cc-open-glam-program/ | Jun 11 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | We’re Launching the CC Open GLAM Program - Creative Commons | Jun 11 09:18 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #MichaelGeist #Internet ☞ Rock Bottom: Bill C-10 Gag Order and No-Notice Meetings Means the End of Committee Review is Near https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/06/rock-bottom-bill-c-10-gag-order-and-no-notice-meetings-means-the-end-of-committee-review-is-near/ | Jun 11 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | Rock Bottom: Bill C-10 Gag Order and No-Notice Meetings Means the End of Committee Review is Near - Michael Geist | Jun 11 09:18 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Trademark #Trademarks ☞ The Decades-Long Trademark Dispute Over 'Pretzel Crisps' Comes To Its Obvious End https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210609/11252046958/decades-long-trademark-dispute-over-pretzel-crisps-comes-to-obvious-end.shtml | Jun 11 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Decades-Long Trademark Dispute Over 'Pretzel Crisps' Comes To Its Obvious End | Techdirt | Jun 11 09:19 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #Detroit The Latest City Forced To Cobble Together Working #Internet Thanks To Telecom Market Failure https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210603/08335546923/detroit-latest-city-forced-to-cobble-together-working-internet-thanks-to-telecom-market-failure.shtml | Jun 11 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Detroit The Latest City Forced To Cobble Together Working Internet Thanks To Telecom Market Failure | Techdirt | Jun 11 10:05 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ Victory! #Dartmouth Ends Unfounded Cheating Investigation After Students, Rights Groups Speak Out https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/dartmouth-ends-misguided-investigation-after-students-rights-groups-speak-out | Jun 11 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Victory! Dartmouth Ends Unfounded Cheating Investigation After Students, Rights Groups Speak Out | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 11 10:06 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #EFF #PatentTrolls ☞ 15 Universities Have Formed A Company That Looks A Lot Like A #PatentTroll https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/15-universities-have-formed-company-looks-lot-patent-troll finally EFF talked about #patents again? | Jun 11 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | 15 Universities Have Formed A Company That Looks A Lot Like A Patent Troll | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jun 11 10:07 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Free Music App #TREBEL Files For IPO, Hoping To Attract Millions of Pirates https://torrentfreak.com/free-music-app-trebel-files-for-ipo-hoping-to-attract-millions-of-pirates-210610/ | Jun 11 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free Music App TREBEL Files For IPO, Hoping To Attract Millions of Pirates * TorrentFreak | Jun 11 10:09 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #microsoft = #censorship #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Blizzard #DMCA Notice Wipes 'Diablo II: Resurrected' Offline Patches from GitHub https://torrentfreak.com/blizzard-dmca-notice-wipes-diablo-ii-resurrected-offline-patches-from-github-210610/ | Jun 11 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blizzard DMCA Notice Wipes 'Diablo II: Resurrected' Offline Patches from GitHub * TorrentFreak | Jun 11 10:09 | |
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| techrights-bot | The gemini capsule of #techrights now lists all the videos gemini://gemini.techrights.org/videos/ | Jun 11 10:43 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ On Eve of G7, Poll Finds US Voters Want Biden to Lead on Vaccinating World https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/10/eve-g7-poll-finds-us-voters-want-biden-lead-vaccinating-world at least he's willing to toss out those #patents | Jun 11 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | On Eve of G7, Poll Finds US Voters Want Biden to Lead on Vaccinating World | Common Dreams News | Jun 11 10:48 | |
| techrights-bot | "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,750. It's about 50 more every 3 weeks. http://techrights.org/2021/05/18/rms-6700-signatures/ | Jun 11 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 6,700 Signatures in Support of Richard Stallman’s Return to the FSF’s Board | Techrights | Jun 11 10:53 | |
| techrights-bot | The latest/last person to garden the anti-RMS petition is an #IBM employee. IBM has a grudge against #GNU and by extension the #FSF (they want it to be a slave of IBM, just like LF). http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | Jun 11 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | Jun 11 10:55 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Security and #ProprietarySoftware • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152174 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Jun 11 11:02 | |
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| techrights-bot | Petition Against #RichardStallman Continues Losing Signatures, Open Letter of Support Reaches 6,750 Signatures • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/ibm-shoots-foot/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/ibm-shoots-foot/ | Jun 11 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Petition Against Richard Stallman Continues Losing Signatures, Open Letter of Support Reaches 6,750 Signatures | Techrights | Jun 11 11:21 | |
| techrights-bot | #linuxfoundation has turned "LINUX" into a generic name. No wonder people quit saying "Linux" and more now talk of GNU or GNU/Linux. We used to stand up to monopolies, not immerse in them. Same for "Open Source", which is now #openwashing of the very same things we are AGAINST. | Jun 11 11:24 |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft must be very, very pleased seeing how the #linuxfoundation engages in brand dilution against the brand "LINUX" (Linux means Windows, Linux means Microsoft). In some countries "colgate" just became synonymous with toothpaste so when you ask for Colgate they even give your the COMPETITORS' products. Linux as a brand? Doomed. http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ | Jun 11 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights | Jun 11 11:26 | |
| techrights-bot | "It'll backfire on them, 'GNU' will come back" -my wife. Notice how the #linuxfoundation was behind the scenes also rallying the fight against RMS (I have evidence!) because they try to erase GNU from history and cause the FSF to collapse. Linux as a brand is already dying, so they try to kill GNU too. | Jun 11 11:28 |
| techrights-bot | Jim Zemlin: #OpenSource Loves #Microsoft • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ ䷉ "Open Source" nowadays means #proprietarySoftware with #openwashing slant for marketing. NOT #freesw | Jun 11 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights | Jun 11 11:33 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm shuffling the seats at the deck of the Titanic https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bhgxqt0 | Jun 11 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndryl time line - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 11:36 | |
| techrights-bot | My wife says #opensource dot com has become truly appalling lately. Lots of #openwashing of #proprietarySoftware corporations and hierarchy (yes, having a boss treating you like a slave is OK... if it's "open leadership"). There's also lots of promotion/spamming of #ibm (site owner) #VendorLockin | Jun 11 11:40 |
| techrights-bot | As far as I can tell, #ibm permits #opensource dot com to exist only as long as it's shameless marketing and promotion of IBM... instead of an actual news site | Jun 11 11:41 |
| techrights-bot | "Which has left me pondering how 'we' would handle communities, or even if 'we' should." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006644.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006645.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006655.html | Jun 11 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Off Topic]Discussing how to have communities without going back to something http/s based | Jun 11 11:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Off Topic]Discussing how to have communities without going back to something http/s based | Jun 11 11:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Off Topic]Discussing how to have communities without going back to something http/s based | Jun 11 11:48 | |
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| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Australia #AU ☞ #FBI , Australian Police Ran A Backdoored Encrypted Chat Service For Three Years https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210609/11530046961/fbi-australian-police-ran-backdoored-encrypted-chat-service-three-years.shtml | Jun 11 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FBI, Australian Police Ran A Backdoored Encrypted Chat Service For Three Years | Techdirt | Jun 11 12:01 | |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ As #EuropeanParliament Endorses #Vaccine #Patent Waiver, #EU Urged to Stop Putting Pharma Profits Over Human Life https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/10/european-parliament-endorses-vaccine-patent-waiver-eu-urged-stop-putting-pharma | Jun 11 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As European Parliament Endorses Vaccine Patent Waiver, EU Urged to Stop Putting Pharma Profits Over Human Life | Common Dreams News | Jun 11 12:05 | |
| techrights-bot | https | Jun 11 12:08 |
| immibis | are they going to cancel innovation by destroying the free market? or are they saving the world one socialism at a time? find out on the next episode of real life z | Jun 11 12:09 |
| schestowitz | innovation is good | Jun 11 12:12 |
| schestowitz | free market is a myth | Jun 11 12:12 |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152178 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:14 | |
| techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152177 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:14 | |
| techrights-bot | #Linux Candy: #Fondo – wallpaper tool • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152176 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Candy: Fondo – wallpaper tool | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:15 | |
| techrights-bot | Best Windows Apps Alternatives For Linux: Switching Made Easier! • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152175 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Windows Apps Alternatives For Linux: Switching Made Easier! | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:15 | |
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| techrights-bot | Links 11/6/2021: A #Torvalds #COVID19 Rant and #RISCV Risk of Takeover • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/riscv-risk-of-takeover/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/riscv-risk-of-takeover/ | Jun 11 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/6/2021: A Torvalds COVID Rant and RISC-V Risk of Takeover | Techrights | Jun 11 12:39 | |
| techrights-bot | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, #LinuxMint 20.2 Backgrounds Slideshow, Never Sign Contributor Licence Agreement • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152182 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, Linux Mint 20.2 Backgrounds Slideshow, Never Sign Contributor Licence Agreement | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:40 | |
| techrights-bot | #Linux #Kernel and #Graphics Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152181 #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel and Graphics Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:40 | |
| techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat /Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152180 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:40 | |
| techrights-bot | #FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152179 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw | Jun 11 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:41 | |
| techrights-bot | The latest (if not last) person to garden the anti- #RMS petition is an #IBM employee. As has been the case for months. Another removal. • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/ibm-shoots-foot/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/ibm-shoots-foot/ | Jun 11 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Petition Against Richard Stallman Continues Losing Signatures, Open Letter of Support Reaches 6,750 Signatures | Techrights | Jun 11 12:45 | |
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| techrights-bot | "it's about a rabbit that does kung-fu and it might have one of the weirdest and jankiest combat systems I've ever seen but it's so much fun." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwH5wtWTSDE | Jun 11 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-【Lugaru】I've Become The Kung-Fu Rabbit - YouTube | Jun 11 12:47 | |
| techrights-bot | Loria, a classic inspired RTS is now permanently free | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/loria-a-classic-inspired-rts-is-now-permanently-free ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Loria, a classic inspired RTS is now permanently free | GamingOnLinux | Jun 11 12:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 12:48 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152183 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:48 | |
| techrights-bot | " #SteamMachines and #SteamOS were ultimately a failure, for many reasons." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/what-we-want-to-see-from-the-possible-steampal-handheld-from-valve | Jun 11 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What we want to see from the possible SteamPal handheld from Valve | GamingOnLinux | Jun 11 12:49 | |
| techrights-bot | Lossless... tell me that word again AFTER #DRM burns you https://www.maketecheasier.com/apple-lossless-music-and-supported-devices/ | Jun 11 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Is Apple Lossless Music and What Devices Are Supported? - Make Tech Easier | Jun 11 12:50 | |
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| techrights-bot | Weird advice https://www.tecmint.com/install-apache-openoffice-on-centos-fedora-ubuntu/ | Jun 11 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | How to Install Latest OpenOffice in Linux Desktop | Jun 11 12:59 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▆▄▆▄▇▆▄▅▅▅▄▅▂▃▅▆▅▁▆▄▅▅▄▅▃▄▄▅▆▅▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 23.25 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▃▂▃▃▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂█▂▂▃▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 12.50▕ swarm size (avg): 243.14 ⟲ | Jun 11 13:20 |
| techrights-bot | New #techrights Introduction at Gemini • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/new-introduction-at-gemini/ ䷉ #internet #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/new-introduction-at-gemini/ | Jun 11 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Introduction at Gemini | Techrights | Jun 11 13:23 | |
| techrights-bot | #Games : Lugaru, RTS Liquidation, Steam Machines, SteamPal, and SteamOS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152185 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gaming | Jun 11 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Lugaru, RTS Liquidation, Steam Machines, SteamPal, and SteamOS | Tux Machines | Jun 11 13:23 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152184 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 13:23 | |
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| schestowitz | [06:18] <-- Glyphie44____ (sid163528@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cftjtlpwwjramtre) has left this server (K-Lined). | Jun 11 13:51 |
| schestowitz | [06:18] <-- hook54321 (sid149355@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxiqoajqmgtmgpcp) has left this server (K-Lined). | Jun 11 13:51 |
| schestowitz | [06:18] <-- openJ (sid276354@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aqbrywlvcfpdroes) has left this server (K-Lined). | Jun 11 13:51 |
| schestowitz | [06:18] <-- kermit (sid393220@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) has left this server (K-Lined). | Jun 11 13:51 |
| schestowitz | [06:18] <-- huggi_ (sid80718@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-unjjweoqzydodjdo) has left this server (K-Lined). | Jun 11 13:51 |
| schestowitz | K-Lined? | Jun 11 13:51 |
| schestowitz | did something with ircloud.com happen? | Jun 11 13:51 |
| immibis | freenode banned irccloud | Jun 11 13:52 |
| schestowitz | what's that about? | Jun 11 13:53 |
| immibis | nobody knows. were you expecting an *answer* from freenode staff? | Jun 11 13:53 |
| immibis | they only answer questions when it paints them in a good light | Jun 11 13:53 |
| schestowitz | [09:01] <-- rasengan (~rasengan@freenode/staff/rasengan) has left this channel. | Jun 11 13:54 |
| schestowitz | 3 hours later | Jun 11 13:54 |
| schestowitz | I never checked https://www.irccloud.com/ before | Jun 11 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRCCloud | Jun 11 13:55 | |
| immibis | i'm sure it's perfectly fine though. Support FreeNode! | Jun 11 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I cannot remember those 5 users ever saying anything though | Jun 11 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Maybe just lurking | Jun 11 13:56 |
| immibis | they didn't ban those 5 users, they banned IRCCloud | Jun 11 13:56 |
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| schestowitz | oh, | Jun 11 14:01 |
| schestowitz | so, it's back? | Jun 11 14:01 |
| *tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] looks at https://irccloud.com/abuse | Jun 11 14:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Abuse | IRCCloud | Jun 11 14:02 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Are ye talking about the time when a person got silenced for asking about NickServ? | Jun 11 14:10 |
| immibis | don't know what you're talking about | Jun 11 14:11 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: https://twitter.com/plainoldchair/status/1402707938024820738 | Jun 11 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@plainoldchair: Here's how staff are currently handling requests for information from users. https://t.co/nAhNmXErYQ | Jun 11 14:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@plainoldchair: Here's how staff are currently handling requests for information from users. https://t.co/nAhNmXErYQ | Jun 11 14:13 | |
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| immibis | XRevan86: no, I don't recall bringing that up, and I wasn't aware of it. But that is just one more reason to Support FreeNode! All hail rasengan! | Jun 11 14:14 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] https://freenode.net/ | Jun 11 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode | Jun 11 14:17 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Of course, as freenode is IRC! | Jun 11 14:17 |
| schestowitz | for the record | Jun 11 14:20 |
| schestowitz | there's an element of convenience alone for those of us who have been on the network for ages | Jun 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | same channels, same nicks | Jun 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | we don't want to see it just going away | Jun 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | more networks, all the fun | Jun 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | self-hosted better | Jun 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | but with limitation like # of online users | Jun 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to tackle some wordpress/mysql-related task | Jun 11 14:22 |
| schestowitz | namely, how to get a list of all posts for given category | Jun 11 14:22 |
| schestowitz | in very old versions it was simple | Jun 11 14:22 |
| schestowitz | and for simpler and smaller blogs | Jun 11 14:22 |
| schestowitz | around 1.2+ (2004) they started limiting how many posts show up per page | Jun 11 14:23 |
| schestowitz | and removed silders/fields by which to specify # per age | Jun 11 14:23 |
| schestowitz | *page | Jun 11 14:23 |
| immibis | the second most convenient thing is to just change the server address and move on | Jun 11 14:23 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: It's moving away. | Jun 11 14:25 |
| techrights-bot | "Remember #IBM gets 20% of their Power sales from the storage sector. I could see POK becoming just an “enterprise” solution plant. Austin will become all things LINUX. Rochester will need to carve out a niche or be closed. IBM is morphing back to what it was in the late 70’s to early 80’s A mainframe company with some “niche” products." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies | Jun 11 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 14:25 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm " What else is left with this company? It makes me laugh every day... it is one BS after the other one..." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bgqXUN4#replies | Jun 11 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | First day at my new job... - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 14:26 | |
| immibis | nobody wants to see anything going away, how do you think people felt about yahoo or sourceforge or microsoft fading into irrelevance? | Jun 11 14:26 |
| immibis | well i'm sure many people celebrated microsoft. until they realized it was being replaced by apple and google | Jun 11 14:27 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86 what is moving away? | Jun 11 14:27 |
| immibis | btw are people here aware of the freenode password leak? | Jun 11 14:29 |
| techrights-bot | Some more "Linus Torvalds says" pieces today (slow news) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152173#comment-29930 | Jun 11 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Becomes COVID-19 Battlezone | Tux Machines | Jun 11 14:30 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The channels and the people. | Jun 11 14:30 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: That's what the link was about. It was the staffer that replaced NickServ, so it doesn't look like there was actually a leak. | Jun 11 14:31 |
| immibis | oh yeah. i should have remembered where i saw the link lo | Jun 11 14:31 |
| immibis | l | Jun 11 14:31 |
| techrights-bot | Mixing two totally different things (vaccination and tracking) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152173#comment-29931 what #linuxfoundation does is NOT acceptable, and it's NOT vaccination http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Becomes COVID-19 Battlezone | Tux Machines | Jun 11 14:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 14:31 | |
| immibis | the... staffer who apparently wasn't a staffer until after the leak? | Jun 11 14:31 |
| psydroid | I just see it as another nail in the coffin for centralisation of communication | Jun 11 14:33 |
| immibis | and yet the topic here says Support FreeNode! | Jun 11 14:34 |
| psydroid | moving to another centralised network that is outside of your control is not in any way a solution | Jun 11 14:34 |
| schestowitz | exactly | Jun 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz | freenode has been around the ages | Jun 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz | all things can start with noble causes and intentions | Jun 11 14:36 |
| schestowitz | then lilo died | Jun 11 14:36 |
| schestowitz | iirc a bicycle accident | Jun 11 14:36 |
| schestowitz | freenode outlived him for many years | Jun 11 14:36 |
| schestowitz | OK, I am giving up on my wordpress challenge | Jun 11 14:36 |
| schestowitz | I just wanted to get a good index per category | Jun 11 14:36 |
| schestowitz | but when some cat's have like 5000+ items it gets tricky | Jun 11 14:37 |
| schestowitz | news is very slow today | Jun 11 14:38 |
| schestowitz | the occasional "Linus Torvalds says" pieces | Jun 11 14:38 |
| schestowitz | and nothing else | Jun 11 14:38 |
| immibis | psydroid: following the latest least-corrupt network is better than sticking to one network like glue even after it becomes corrupt. Of course decentralization is better than both. | Jun 11 14:38 |
| immibis | speaking of corruption, I just found out freenode cancelled ##moved_to_libera - they actually blacklisted the channel name! | Jun 11 14:38 |
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| immibis | anyone tried matrix's supposedly decentralized mode? | Jun 11 14:39 |
| psydroid | as far as I know Techrights sticks to irc.techrights.org | Jun 11 14:39 |
| immibis | i heard you can theoretically run your own server but everyone uses the central one | Jun 11 14:40 |
| gustaf | some clients make setting up a new connection a royal pain | Jun 11 14:40 |
| gustaf | looking at you, irssi | Jun 11 14:40 |
| techrights-bot | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta Released With New Features: Here’s How To Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29932 | Jun 11 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines | Jun 11 14:40 | |
| psydroid | I don't have the spare hardware for running my own homeserver yet, but that is my plan for the future, when it comes to Matrix | Jun 11 14:41 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibi: Oh, really? Ouch. | Jun 11 14:41 |
| techrights-bot | "Welcome to the month of June 2021. A new mark for Firefox with the release of #Firefox 89. Lots of excitement and anticipation for the changes." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2021/06/10/whats-up-with-sumo-june-2021/ #mozilla | Jun 11 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | What’s up with SUMO – June 2021 – The Mozilla Support Blog | Jun 11 14:41 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Notice how ever since Libera's inception, it just works, and under ever increasing load. Meanwhile, something just keeps happening to freenode time and time again. | Jun 11 14:42 |
| techrights-bot | But Lennart, #systemd is just an init system, no? http://0pointer.net/blog/the-wondrous-world-of-discoverable-gpt-disk-images.html | Jun 11 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.net | The Wondrous World of Discoverable GPT Disk Images | Jun 11 14:43 | |
| immibis | gustaf: maybe use a different client | Jun 11 14:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: There aren't that many people out there who like to do meaningless work. Most people would've preferred nothing to have happen to freenode. But it's not something that can be undone. | Jun 11 14:45 |
| immibis | Seeing as the topic says to Support FreeNode, I get the impression schestowitz likes the changes | Jun 11 14:45 |
| techrights-bot | "As much of the world emerges from COVID lockdown, companies are taking a variety of approaches to reopening their workplaces." Like #ibm (this is an IBM site) pushing staff to come back. Despite risk. #microsoft does the same. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/hybrid-work-culture-5-tips-how-build | Jun 11 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work culture: 5 tips on how to build a positive one | The Enterprisers Project | Jun 11 14:46 | |
| techrights-bot | IBM 10101010101: add more complexity everywhere. https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/11/kuber | Jun 11 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/11/kuber ) | Jun 11 14:46 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: schestowitz is more sympathetic to rasengan than many others, as he supported FSF at the time of need. | Jun 11 14:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: And not as sympathetic to the former staff. | Jun 11 14:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] that includes people that signed the anti-RMS letter. | Jun 11 14:47 |
| techrights-bot | This is simply not true as it overlooks the fact that many sites are Apache at the back end but then hide behind something leaner and simpler like #nginx https://linuxiac.com/nginx-most-popular-web-server/ | Jun 11 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Nginx is Now the World’s #1 Web Server, Overtaking Apache | Jun 11 14:48 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] that plus the attachment to freenode as a technical entity (not the people behind it) are the reason | Jun 11 14:48 |
| immibis | freenode deserves no attachment. IRC networks are cheap and interchangeable... as long as you can communicate the change. | Jun 11 14:48 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Oi, this whole ordeal was nothing but painful. | Jun 11 14:49 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat today: "Embrace inclusivity" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/hybrid-work-culture-5-tips-how-build yeah, go tell that to your FOUNDER! http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Jun 11 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Jun 11 14:50 | |
| techrights-bot | As part of ongoing improvements to our capsule we have a new introductory text, reproduced below • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/new-introduction-at-gemini/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/new-introduction-at-gemini/ | Jun 11 14:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Introduction at Gemini | Techrights | Jun 11 14:51 | |
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| schestowitz | [14:40] <immibis> i heard you can theoretically run your own server but everyone uses the central one | Jun 11 14:52 |
| schestowitz | 13+ years in freenode | Jun 11 14:52 |
| schestowitz | habits don't lapse overnight | Jun 11 14:52 |
| schestowitz | [14:48] <immibis> freenode deserves no attachment. IRC networks are cheap and interchangeable... as long as you can communicate the change. | Jun 11 14:54 |
| schestowitz | hahahahaha. | Jun 11 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Tell me about your migration then | Jun 11 14:54 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Yea, they're anything but that. | Jun 11 14:54 |
| schestowitz | BTW, freenode faces issues on many fronts and plays defensive at the moment | Jun 11 14:54 |
| schestowitz | bots, trolls, floods, channel locks, loss of staff | Jun 11 14:55 |
| schestowitz | not an easy situation | Jun 11 14:55 |
| psydroid | I have Matrix accounts on matrix.org and chat.weho.st and possibly even on another server which will serve me fine until I start running my own | Jun 11 14:55 |
| schestowitz | and rather uncalled for if it boils down to 2FA over the domain name.. and likely an exaggeration/flippant reaction | Jun 11 14:55 |
| immibis | schestowitz: I don't run any channels so I'm not sure what you mean by "my" migration | Jun 11 14:56 |
| schestowitz | see? so you lack an actual case study. it's NOT easy to migrate people across network | Jun 11 14:56 |
| schestowitz | some are just lurking, some cannot reconfigure clients, some only want one network for all their needs | Jun 11 14:56 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Uncalled for by whom though? | Jun 11 14:57 |
| immibis | real-world evidence says it's extremely easy, but it also says that many idlers will never move, but they are idlers, so just leave a /topic for them and move on | Jun 11 14:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure many channels that moved from freenode to LC now have less than half the number of users online they had before | Jun 11 14:57 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] PostgreSQL: had about 800, now has 600 | Jun 11 14:58 |
| immibis | how many users actually chatting? | Jun 11 14:58 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MariaDB: had about 90, now 80 | Jun 11 14:58 |
| immibis | abandoned bouncer connections shouldn't count as users | Jun 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: those are 2 examples | Jun 11 14:58 |
| immibis | we should measure the move by activity, not by connections | Jun 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz | and all lost users (online) | Jun 11 14:58 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Those are the channels I'm in. | Jun 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz | I doubt anyone GAINED from migration | Jun 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz | and they leap from a pan to a potential fire | Jun 11 14:59 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I managed to capture that popping noise on my car on video this time. Maybe that'll help down at the shop. | Jun 11 14:59 |
| schestowitz | "Staff" (volunteers) without long-term commitment | Jun 11 14:59 |
| schestowitz | no salary | Jun 11 14:59 |
| immibis | you don't think that avoiding freenode staff is a gain? | Jun 11 14:59 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: If I look at the bridged channels (MATE, and now SQLite), the newcomers come to Libera. | Jun 11 14:59 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Libera is where people are asking questions. | Jun 11 14:59 |
| schestowitz | freenode withstood 20+ years, I very much doubt it'll go away in the next decade | Jun 11 14:59 |
| BaronVladimirHar | If I had to guess, I'd say some sort of knocking from lean air/fuel mixture, although I'm not getting a diagnostic code from it. | Jun 11 14:59 |
| immibis | schestowitz: and yet you've been using it for 13 years. Volunteer staff seem to be good enough for you | Jun 11 14:59 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Surprise surprise. | Jun 11 14:59 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Even though the official MATE network is still freenode (it's a topic that hasn't been seriously discussed). | Jun 11 14:59 |
| psydroid | I've been asked to register channels on LC, which I did. But then people just don't talk in those newly created channels, making me wonder why I even bothered registering them. | Jun 11 15:00 |
| schestowitz | so now they have fragmentation | Jun 11 15:00 |
| immibis | schestowitz: there is already fragmentation, are you in the techrights channel on efnet? if not, why not? | Jun 11 15:00 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: And all that just because rasengan is afraid of TOTP as of fire? | Jun 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | also, worse type of fragmentation | Jun 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | wherein you have two masters | Jun 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | and you control nothing | Jun 11 15:01 |
| psydroid | basically it came down to them not wanting to be on Freenode anymore but being able to talk to me and ask me questions as needed | Jun 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | so you just play off one master against the other | Jun 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | "WATCH OUT, Microsoft!!! I WILL BUY A MAC!!" | Jun 11 15:01 |
| immibis | that's why so many projects tried to force everyone off of one master so they'd have just one master again | Jun 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | they swapped masters | Jun 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | that's not the solution | Jun 11 15:02 |
| immibis | psydroid: almost like people will connect to the network where their questions will be answered, not just the one they feel like using today | Jun 11 15:02 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Rather, they stayed with their original master. | Jun 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | they're at someone's mercy again | Jun 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | and tomorrow clique A from LC will split off from clique B | Jun 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | and again you move | Jun 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | to the clique of choice | Jun 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | because of something like "CENSOR THIS CHANNEL OR I AM OUT!!" | Jun 11 15:02 |
| immibis | yes, your choices are that or self-hosting. Remind me why you're still using freenode? | Jun 11 15:02 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Apple has sometimes taken advantage of a particularly bad Windows release to point out that the Mac is more stable. | Jun 11 15:03 |
| immibis | you are clearly not speaking through the tr-bridge | Jun 11 15:03 |
| schestowitz | immibis: it's already here and most users I communicate with are in this network | Jun 11 15:03 |
| tr-bridge | [schestowitz/tr] I am on the other side of the bridge too | Jun 11 15:03 |
| schestowitz | immibis: unlike you ;-) | Jun 11 15:03 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: That's an interesting assumption considering that they got serious with making sure this doesn't happen. And after all, they don't have that time-bomb that freenode had. | Jun 11 15:03 |
| schestowitz | come chat on our network if you dislike freenode this much | Jun 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather not be on third parties, but that's where many people are | Jun 11 15:04 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: freenode, Ltd. was a wildcard, and the one that finally took action. | Jun 11 15:04 |
| psydroid | immibis, I cloned all of my Freenode channels to Matrix more than a year ago and those rooms have been more active than most of the Freenode or recently registered LC channels have been during that time | Jun 11 15:04 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Windows Vista was like it was because even after the development reset, they still wanted to do too much with it. Instead of improving the C support in their compiler, they pushed .Net hard. | Jun 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | and we can only try to educate people about BSD, GNU/Linux, self-hosting etc. | Jun 11 15:04 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Years later, they came back and improved C, but they should have done it then. | Jun 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | gemini is easier for self-hosting because of its footprint | Jun 11 15:04 |
| immibis | schestowitz: i believe that's what the bridge is for | Jun 11 15:06 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Remember how they got Yahoo to push a version of Yahoo Messenger "optimized for Vista", and it crashed more and never reached feature parity before they gave up on it? | Jun 11 15:06 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They even get other companies to waste money pushing their crap. | Jun 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210605/17455946938/map-internet-exposes-lie-that-big-tech-controls-internet.shtml | Jun 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | this week | Jun 11 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Map Of The Internet Exposes The Lie That 'Big Tech' Controls The Internet | Techdirt | Jun 11 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | Internet is wrong | Jun 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | maybe Web | Jun 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | in terms of traffic, a lot goes through youtube, netflix (volume) | Jun 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | and 'screentime' through cookies and JS is even worse | Jun 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | with spying firms everywhere | Jun 11 15:07 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: All of the techrights' bots are on freenode. | Jun 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | this is where they have long been | Jun 11 15:07 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Microsoft is eyeballing Rust as the new Microsoft Java VM. They don't even talk about .Net much anymore. | Jun 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: they never recovered from Vista | Jun 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | XP stayed around for ages and they kept extending the cliff edge | Jun 11 15:08 |
| immibis | i thought windows 7 was pretty widely used | Jun 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: they are busy hijacking what wins | Jun 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | now they hijack the "LINUX" brand | Jun 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ | Jun 11 15:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights | Jun 11 15:09 | |
| techrights-bot | #MakuluLinux Shift Teaser II http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2021/06/11/makulu-shift-teaser-ii/ #gnu #linux | Jun 11 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Makulu Shift Teaser II – MakuluLinux | Jun 11 15:10 | |
| techrights-bot | #OpenZFS 2.1 Gets More Cleanups, Better Documentation Ahead Of Release - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenZFS-2.1-rc7-Released ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux #deletegithub | Jun 11 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenZFS 2.1 Gets More Cleanups, Better Documentation Ahead Of Release - Phoronix | Jun 11 15:11 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | They try to make it sound like Microsoft is "great with programming languages" because they have so many. If one works well, you generally don't have to push many of them that overlap. | Jun 11 15:12 |
| techrights-bot | Real-Time Support "PREEMPT_RT" For Linux Held Up Due To Lack Of Funding - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PREEMPT_RT-Lack-Of-Funds ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Real-Time Support "PREEMPT_RT" For Linux Held Up Due To Lack Of Funding - Phoronix | Jun 11 15:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 15:12 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | I still have a book on Java "for Windows" applications from like 1999 or so. There's been no way to actually run them since the MSJVM was removed. | Jun 11 15:13 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Visual J# was around for a while, but it too was removed. | Jun 11 15:13 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] BaronVladimirHar: Do they run on https://microsoft.com/openjdk ? :) | Jun 11 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Build of OpenJDK | Jun 11 15:14 | |
| techrights-bot | "Happy Friday, everyone. The Apache community has had another great week." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up230 | Jun 11 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 11 June 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog | Jun 11 15:14 | |
| techrights-bot | #GNU #Linux Release Roundup #21.24: #KDE Plasma 5.22, #LibreOffice 7.1.4, and More New Releases https://news.itsfoss.com/linux-release-roundup-2021-24/ | Jun 11 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Linux Release Roundup #21.24: KDE Plasma 5.22, LibreOffice 7.1.4, and More New Releases - It's FOSS News | Jun 11 15:15 | |
| techrights-bot | #wordpress Gutenberg Highlights - WordPress.org ⚓ https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/gutenberg-highlights/ | Jun 11 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News – Gutenberg Highlights – WordPress.org | Jun 11 15:16 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Oracle has patents. Google lost the part about deviating from the Java standard and using code that wasn't covered under the patent license. | Jun 11 15:16 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I wonder if Oracle would sue if Microsoft starts "adding features" to OpenJDK. | Jun 11 15:16 |
| schestowitz | they're in cahoots | Jun 11 15:16 |
| schestowitz | except on code DB business | Jun 11 15:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/java-schism-to-wrest-control/ | Jun 11 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | History’s Lesson: Microsoft Now Does to GNU/Linux What It Did to Java (Creating ‘Schism’ to ‘Wrest Control’) | Techrights | Jun 11 15:17 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Microsoft is an official OpenJDK contributor, so no. | Jun 11 15:17 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] It's just yet another build of OpenJDK in practice. | Jun 11 15:17 |
| techrights-bot | #libreoffice /TDF Extended Tender to implement #Curl based HTTP/WebDAV UCP (#202104-01) https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/06/11/extended-tender-to-implement-curl-based-http-webdav-ucp-202104-01/ | Jun 11 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Extended: Tender to implement Curl based HTTP/WebDAV UCP (#202104-01) - The Document Foundation Blog | Jun 11 15:18 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Nothing interesting about it except for the parallels with Microsoft Java. | Jun 11 15:18 |
| techrights-bot | More #debian devs who say "GNU/Linux": "Some days ago Robert reported back about a sleepless night he spent with that machine... He got stuck with a tricky issue regarding the installation of Manjaro GNU/Linux on that machine, that could be -- at the end -- resolved by a not so well documented trick." https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/132 | Jun 11 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sunweavers.net | Linux on Acer Spin 3 | sunweaver's NET | Jun 11 15:20 | |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▃▂▄▆▅▆▅▆▅▄▅▅▅▆▃▅▄▅▇▅▅▄▅▆▂▃▅▆▅▂▆▇▁ avg(k/sec) 25.23 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▃▁▂▂▃▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.60▕ swarm size (avg): 243.19 ⟲ | Jun 11 15:20 |
| psydroid | so they've just not declared .NET dead yet because they are still working on coopting Rust? | Jun 11 15:20 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] psydroid: Um, .NET 5 ? | Jun 11 15:21 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat : we don't have masters and slaves in the workplace. We just rebrand them :-) :-) "open leaders" https://opensource.com/open-organization/21/6/nurture-leaders-let-go #openwshing #nonsense #marketing | Jun 11 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-To nurture open leaders, managers must learn to let go | Opensource.com | Jun 11 15:21 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] They definitely have plans on .NET | Jun 11 15:21 |
| BaronVladimirHar | This could be a vacuum leak in the brake booster. | Jun 11 15:21 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I mean it makes a popping sound while I'm driving, but it sounds like the car is farting sometimes when I take my foot off the brake pedal. | Jun 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz | You rarely heard about new projects made with .NET anymore | Jun 11 15:22 |
| schestowitz | it's going down the path of CodePlex | Jun 11 15:22 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Unmetered air really messes things up in an engine. | Jun 11 15:22 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Unity3D | Jun 11 15:22 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: stay on topic, pls | Jun 11 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Mono | Jun 11 15:22 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] psydroid: Besides, Rust is focused on execution efficiency while .NET never was. | Jun 11 15:23 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] they're not really in the same niche | Jun 11 15:23 |
| schestowitz | by openwashing .NET itself Microsoft sort of put the kibosh on mono | Jun 11 15:23 |
| schestowitz | unity used mono long before that | Jun 11 15:23 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Yea, Unity3D uses bits of Mono even today. | Jun 11 15:23 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They never fully open sourced Mono. | Jun 11 15:23 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I still think that Windows Forms and several other parts are under the promise not to sue. | Jun 11 15:24 |
| phobos | honestly, the promise not to sue means nothing to me. | Jun 11 15:25 |
| BaronVladimirHar | There's no patent grant under the MIT license. If courts were rational, this would be a pretty easy decision. The Prenda Law case might even be pertinent even though the issue is patents, not copyright (since the API can't be copyrighted anyway). | Jun 11 15:25 |
| BaronVladimirHar | In Prenda Law, the courts ruled that a porn troll couldn't upload something to the Pirate Bay and then sue people for it. Further, they ruled that attempting to blackmail people was illegal and sent the lawyers running it to prison. | Jun 11 15:26 |
| techrights-bot | The comments here seem infested by #microsoft boot lickers https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_new_tablet_and_laptop_to_be_unveiled_on_june_15-news-49546.php more and more companies like this one will move off #windows | Jun 11 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Realme's first tablet and laptop to be unveiled on June 15 - GSMArena.com news | Jun 11 15:26 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Microsoft has the same thing going on with .Net except it's patents. | Jun 11 15:26 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Encouraging people to take it and then coming to threaten them with patents once they do, if they have a lot of assets that are exposed. | Jun 11 15:26 |
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| BaronVladimirHar | Game engines use Mono a lot because one of the things it does make it easy to do is scripting, which is what many games call "AI". | Jun 11 15:27 |
| techrights-bot | #intel needs to #deletegithub as this looks extremely unprofessional https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Cloud-Hypervisor-16.0 they used to have their OWN #git and see what happened: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Jun 11 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel's Cloud-Hypervisor 16 Adds ARM64 ACPI + UEFI Support, Better Live Migration - Phoronix | Jun 11 15:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Jun 11 15:28 | |
| techrights-bot | Google Europe wants source code https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210611-01.en.html http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/ | Jun 11 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Netherlands: Participation app remains closed to the public - FSFE | Jun 11 15:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisation’s Name) | Techrights | Jun 11 15:29 | |
| techrights-bot | #Timesys Embedded Board Farm enables remote access to hardware for software development & QA https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/11/embedded-board-farm-remote-access-hardware-software-development-qa/ | Jun 11 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Timesys Embedded Board Farm enables remote access to hardware for software development & QA - CNX Software | Jun 11 15:30 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Borderlands 3 "AI" is very aggressive. Enemies put forth almost no effort to protect themselves. | Jun 11 15:30 |
| BaronVladimirHar | It just drops off a ton of them and they rush towards you eating up your bullets. It's more like Doom than anything. | Jun 11 15:31 |
| techrights-bot | "This question probably seems absurd. An unoptimized memcpy is a simple loop that copies bytes. How hard can that be? Well..." http://nhaehnle.blogspot.com/2021/06/can-memcpy-be-implemented-in-llvm-ir.html | Jun 11 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaehnle.blogspot.com | Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can memcpy be implemented in LLVM IR? | Jun 11 15:31 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | This is probably the easiest type of "AI" to do. The player doesn't stop to think about it much because they're taking a lot of fire. | Jun 11 15:32 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: they just walk in a straight line towards you, punching air | Jun 11 15:32 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I grabbed Alien Isolation while it was free last month. I genuinely do feel like it's toying with me. | Jun 11 15:32 |
| schestowitz | you can even predict their next move | Jun 11 15:32 |
| schestowitz | because they're so dull | Jun 11 15:33 |
| immibis | Alien Isolation is a rule-based AI but it unlocks more rules as you play | Jun 11 15:33 |
| schestowitz | the best "hey hi" they have found is internet gaming | Jun 11 15:33 |
| schestowitz | wherein the enemies are actual people | Jun 11 15:33 |
| immibis | or tree-based, not sure if there's a significant difference | Jun 11 15:33 |
| schestowitz | playing over the network and learning from mistakes | Jun 11 15:33 |
| immibis | when the developers say "there's an AI that learns from you" people imagine a neural network, but it's actually just a bunch of bit flags "have I learned to do this?" "have I learned to do this?" "have I learned to do this?" | Jun 11 15:34 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Basically, it's designed to start out being predictable and then become less so as the game goes on. | Jun 11 15:40 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The more rules, the less predictability. Since you can't kill it, there's no change that you manage to successfully pick it off at the start of the game. | Jun 11 15:40 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] > depends on who does the picking | Jun 11 15:41 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: And what will they pick? Until now no third network has appeared, so it's unlikely that it will. And the big networks have their perks like the shared user registrations and stuff like the Matrix integration (looking at you, DaemonFC). | Jun 11 15:41 |
| xyz | I AM STILL MUTED IN #ANONCHAN | Jun 11 15:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] xyz: It's not anonymous either | Jun 11 15:48 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] why would ye go there? | Jun 11 15:49 |
| xyz | i was trying to have fun | Jun 11 15:51 |
| xyz | but they are bulling me | Jun 11 15:51 |
| *xyz is now known as post_deleted_by_ | Jun 11 15:55 | |
| *post_deleted_by_ is now known as pst_DEL_by_Andre | Jun 11 15:56 | |
| techrights-bot | How did SJVN fail to name Windows as the common culprit?! (With back doors by design) https://www.computerworld.com/article/3619209/heres-what-you-can-do-about-ransomware.html see http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Jun 11 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's what you can do about ransomware | Computerworld | Jun 11 16:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Jun 11 16:00 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm #redhat preaching against technical skills: Soft skill #1: Ask for help. #2: Learn when to say "No". #3: Use your manager https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/top-3-sysadmin-softskills | Jun 11 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 3 essential sysadmin soft skills you need to learn right now | Enable Sysadmin | Jun 11 16:04 | |
| techrights-bot | "Tmux is an essential tool and has functions ANY linux user will need!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWEX2446B4 | Jun 11 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tmux Tutorial - YouTube | Jun 11 16:06 | |
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| psydroid | 4: buy IBM/Red Hat support as any helpless non-technical person would and pray and hope they can solve the problem for you | Jun 11 16:07 |
| techrights-bot | "Snapd is an open-source project, hosted on GitHub." OK, bye. You're outsourcing to a #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly in #NSA PRISM and controlled by Microsoft. https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-has-snapd-ever-done-for-other-distros http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Jun 11 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What has snapd ever done for other distros? | Ubuntu | Jun 11 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Jun 11 16:08 | |
| techrights-bot | #canonical / #ubuntu + #microsoft #github = disaster. http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ | Jun 11 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Microsoft’s Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonical’s Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly It’s Ubuntu’s Fault? | Techrights | Jun 11 16:09 | |
| techrights-bot | Hyped up by Microsoft; isn't even applicable to most systems https://thehackernews.com/2021/06/7-year-old-polkit-flaw-lets.html #MICROSOFT #FUD #TalkAboutNSA #TalkAboutPRISM #GithHub (the ICE champion) | Jun 11 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | 7-Year-Old Polkit Flaw Lets Unprivileged Linux Users Gain Root Access | Jun 11 16:11 | |
| techrights-bot | "I'm on a quest to replace Google Photos since their free 'unlimited' storage is no longer available." Trusting promises from tech mafias. #GulagPhotos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhNuRHtS2A | Jun 11 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I'm Replacing Google Photos... - YouTube | Jun 11 16:12 | |
| schestowitz | psydroid: but they can't say that | Jun 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | first they convince you to add complexity to the systems | Jun 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | podman, ansible, systemd... | Jun 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | the whole lot | Jun 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | then they sell you "Tower" and OpenShift GUIs and stuff | Jun 11 16:13 |
| psydroid | I was just talking about that to a friend yesterday | Jun 11 16:15 |
| psydroid | after the Linux Foundation and the FreeBSD Foundation I should start the Quicksand Foundation | Jun 11 16:15 |
| techrights-bot | Literally buying SEATS and BUYING marketing contracts from Zemlin and his crooks, who use the brand "LINUX" and milk the goodwill associated with it.. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/idramp-joins-linux-foundation-public-health-cardea-project-steering-committee-301310480.html | Jun 11 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | IdRamp Joins Linux Foundation Public Health Cardea Project Steering Committee | Jun 11 16:16 | |
| techrights-bot | Linux Foundation 'Public' 'Health' = mass #surveillance disguised as "health" and misusing the "LINUX" brand (it has NOTHING to do with Linux!) http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 16:16 | |
| immibis | better, the Apple Foundation | Jun 11 16:17 |
| techrights-bot | #NVIDIA #GeForce RTX 3070 Ti / RTX 3080 Ti Compute + Renderer Performance #Benchmarks Review - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-rtx30ti-compute&num=1 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti / RTX 3080 Ti Compute + Renderer Performance Benchmarks Review - Phoronix | Jun 11 16:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 16:17 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 16:18 |
| tr-bridge | [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: most likely they will pick poorly and then suffer | Jun 11 16:18 |
| techrights-bot | How can anybody write such an article without mentioning Windows with its back doors and awful code -- so awful that they keep it secret? https://www.fosslife.org/global-efforts-needed-address-growing-ransomware-attacks | Jun 11 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Global Efforts Needed to Address Growing Ransomware Attacks | Jun 11 16:20 | |
| techrights-bot | "Featuring open-world real-time gameplay, Death Trash is a hand-crafted experience that will feature a full story campaign with optional local co-op play." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/well-finally-get-to-see-what-death-trash-is-like-with-a-demo-for-the-steam-next-fest | Jun 11 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-We'll finally get to see what Death Trash is like with a demo for the Steam Next Fest | GamingOnLinux | Jun 11 16:21 | |
| techrights-bot | Nibble Stew: Typesetting a full book part II, Scribus ⚓ https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2021/06/typesetting-full-book-part-ii-scribus.html ䷉ #nibblestew "...typeset an entire book using nothing but LibreOffice." | Jun 11 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Typesetting a full book part II, Scribus | Jun 11 16:22 | |
| techrights-bot | Best method for dark-mode friendly #SVG in HTML https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/svg-embed-dark-mode.html This whole "dark-mode" lunacy is irrational hype over something neither innovative nor useful | Jun 11 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Best method for dark-mode friendly SVG in HTML | Jun 11 16:26 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: https://twitter.com/plainoldchair/status/1403159358536622083 a good point | Jun 11 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@plainoldchair: Speaking of him being a creeper: Imagine being a mail carrier and some weirdo tweets out a secretly recorded video… https://t.co/widSz0rhZF | Jun 11 16:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@plainoldchair: Speaking of him being a creeper: Imagine being a mail carrier and some weirdo tweets out a secretly recorded video… https://t.co/widSz0rhZF | Jun 11 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | tweets are hard ro figure out | Jun 11 16:36 |
| schestowitz | need article | Jun 11 16:36 |
| schestowitz | it's like random thoughts | Jun 11 16:36 |
| schestowitz | that you might put together before writing something | Jun 11 16:36 |
| schestowitz | which is how I arrange data before writing about it | Jun 11 16:36 |
| schestowitz | the tweets themselves can be worthless, inaccurate | Jun 11 16:37 |
| schestowitz | like a stream of consciousness | Jun 11 16:37 |
| schestowitz | we need to encourage people to blog more, like 15 years ago... | Jun 11 16:37 |
| schestowitz | journalism itself is dying | Jun 11 16:37 |
| schestowitz | this is how we end up crucifying people over things that might be half true or even false | Jun 11 16:37 |
| schestowitz | based on "number of likes" | Jun 11 16:37 |
| schestowitz | and the likes are likely motivated not by need to rewards accuracy | Jun 11 16:38 |
| schestowitz | but something like "which side I'm on" | Jun 11 16:38 |
| schestowitz | it's how a tweet of a fake sign on the door or RMS can can get thousands of likes | Jun 11 16:38 |
| schestowitz | and then end up at the top of articles | Jun 11 16:38 |
| schestowitz | which think those tweets were accurate and the photo was what it said it was | Jun 11 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is also the sort of place where you can say "X did Y" | Jun 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | and without risk of accountability | Jun 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | because it's a random thought | Jun 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | and it turns out Z did Y | Jun 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | or that nobody did Y | Jun 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | but it doesn't matter, as the "Court of Twitter" has already ruled | Jun 11 16:40 |
| immibis | aren't you doing that very thing right now? | Jun 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | where? | Jun 11 16:41 |
| schestowitz | in diaspora? | Jun 11 16:41 |
| schestowitz | and IRC? | Jun 11 16:41 |
| immibis | you are saying like random thoughts | Jun 11 16:41 |
| immibis | that you might put together before writing something | Jun 11 16:41 |
| immibis | the messages themselves can be worthless, inaccurate | Jun 11 16:41 |
| schestowitz | yes, but I don't cite IRC lines as "proof" | Jun 11 16:41 |
| immibis | like a stream of consciousnes | Jun 11 16:41 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: this person @plainldchair is toxic and horrible | Jun 11 16:41 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: and so much that i will take the opposite of his opinions as advice | Jun 11 16:41 |
| schestowitz | I never cite as proof X said in IRC/#yyy Z | Jun 11 16:41 |
| immibis | CrystalMath: but they cited an eskimo tweet as proof of something eskimo did | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | IRC is like a honecall | Jun 11 16:42 |
| immibis | is that not valid? | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | *phoncall | Jun 11 16:42 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: I don't really care, that's a good point brought up. | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | *phonecall :-) | Jun 11 16:42 |
| CrystalMath | nobody should send videos of employees to employers | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | I stay out of Twitter battles | Jun 11 16:42 |
| CrystalMath | ever | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | they're tiring, hard to follow | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | like tweet embedded in a tweet | Jun 11 16:42 |
| schestowitz | and no order for what shows up | Jun 11 16:43 |
| CrystalMath | like, that is literally never okay, we're all people and we've done something embarassing, get over it | Jun 11 16:43 |
| immibis | CrystalMath: Everything in the tweet you're talking about can be independently verified, either by the eskimo tweet it links to, or by a dictionary, or by seeing eskimo speak for 5 minutes. I'm not sure which part you're saying is a lie | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Even Twitter acknledges this | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | and now offers the 'solution' in Twitter blue | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Look what Trump made in Twitter | Jun 11 16:43 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: So ye're agreeing? | Jun 11 16:43 |
| CrystalMath | immibis: perhaps because i opened this in nitter, and with a browser that has trouble rendering it, is making it hard for me to find what you're talking about | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | riled up a bunch of loonies | Jun 11 16:43 |
| immibis | CrystalMath: Were you able to read the text of the tweet? | Jun 11 16:43 |
| CrystalMath | immibis: yes, but it didn't even show up on top, i had to look for it | Jun 11 16:43 |
| immibis | 'Speaking of ... "cancel culture".' ? | Jun 11 16:44 |
| CrystalMath | also no images | Jun 11 16:44 |
| CrystalMath | because it seems that the latest felinks has horrible rendering problems with nitter | Jun 11 16:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] "Speaking of him being a creeper" – no, it's this one | Jun 11 16:44 |
| CrystalMath | i've seen it crash even | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | someone needs to type up an article | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | with everything included | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is NOT a source | Jun 11 16:44 |
| immibis | CrystalMath: maybe you should refrain from commenting on things you can't actually view correctly | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/21/twitter-is-unverified-hearsay/ | Jun 11 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tweets Are Not Journalism But Succinct Unverified Hearsay; Time to Treat Them Accordingly | Techrights | Jun 11 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | maybe it's all true | Jun 11 16:45 |
| immibis | schestowitz: in this case because we are talking about eskimo, eskimo's tweet is a valid source | Jun 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | but it's not explained clearly | Jun 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | it's a bunch of disjoint statements | Jun 11 16:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: There's no need for coverage about eskimo anymore. | Jun 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | I don't want tweets | Jun 11 16:45 |
| CrystalMath | immibis: maybe people should refrain from sending me links to proprietary software that i will not run? | Jun 11 16:45 |
| CrystalMath | and using that as "evidence" | Jun 11 16:45 |
| CrystalMath | direct links please | Jun 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | I want a coherent explanation, and Twitter would take hours to understand... in what a decent article can do in 5 minutes | Jun 11 16:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] It's just CrystalMath because he thinks that eskimo was unjustly attacked | Jun 11 16:45 |
| immibis | CrystalMath: the tweet is the evidence. Especially if it's your own deliberate decision to not view the evidence, don't blame the rest of us for your unwillingness to view it. | Jun 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | This is how we ended up having this https://stallmansupport.org/index.html | Jun 11 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Introduction | Jun 11 16:46 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: The Nitter instance I use when referencing is down right now, so I have to do it like that. | Jun 11 16:46 |
| CrystalMath | immibis: i am trying to view it with free software but it's difficult | Jun 11 16:46 |
| immibis | XRevan86: yeah that is how these people work. Find any shred of doubt and latch onto it | Jun 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | wherein they tell us lies about him supporting Epstein (lie), and hating women (lie) etc. | Jun 11 16:46 |
| CrystalMath | immibis: it's not unwillingness, i'm simply being ethical | Jun 11 16:46 |
| immibis | CrystalMath: tweets cannot be viewed with free software. Either accept the nonfree software or don't view the tweet. If you choose not to view the tweet, don't complain about not viewing the tweet. | Jun 11 16:46 |
| tr-bridge | [Noisytoot/tr] CrystalMath/fn: nitter exists for viewing twitter without nonfree software | Jun 11 16:46 |
| tr-bridge | [Noisytoot/tr] https://nitter.snopyta.org/ | Jun 11 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.snopyta.org | nitter | Jun 11 16:47 | |
| schestowitz | Trumpter (Twitter) is good for mob lynching, where you overwhelm people in large groups | Jun 11 16:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I don't have trouble viewing the post with Nitter. | Jun 11 16:47 |
| schestowitz | and the evidence might be somewhere | Jun 11 16:47 |
| immibis | it is clear that your client is unable to render this particular tweet in the intended manner, even if it can view some tweets | Jun 11 16:47 |
| schestowitz | but you end up being manipulated by curated "hashtags" and stuff | Jun 11 16:47 |
| schestowitz | http://hintjens.wikidot.com/blog:114 | Jun 11 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hintjens.wikidot.com | Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com | Jun 11 16:47 | |
| schestowitz | that was ages ago | Jun 11 16:47 |
| psydroid | let's not just accept the non-free software | Jun 11 16:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] The video is also watchable, albeit it may not be ethical to watch it. | Jun 11 16:47 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: eskimo told me the full story already | Jun 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | They did this to me also http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ | Jun 11 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where ‘Cancel Culture’ Thrives | Techrights | Jun 11 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | people making false statements and rile people up | Jun 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | and the falsehoods never get corrected | Jun 11 16:48 |
| immibis | how do we know that "people making false statements and rile people up" is not itself a falsehood? | Jun 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | you may not | Jun 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | but start with articles | Jun 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | not fast-gratifying tweets | Jun 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | like "likes" (based on sides, not accuracy) | Jun 11 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Twitter lacks accountability | Jun 11 16:49 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Oh? I didn't know there's a fuller story about recording and publishing a video of a random person scratching their private parts on a hidden camera. | Jun 11 16:49 |
| schestowitz | so politicians go there talking trash | Jun 11 16:49 |
| immibis | what about fast-gratifying IRC messages? | Jun 11 16:49 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I'm back to news | Jun 11 16:49 |
| schestowitz | immibis: yes | Jun 11 16:49 |
| schestowitz | but we DO NOT USE IRC AS SOURCE! | Jun 11 16:50 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: And that's sent to the employee. | Jun 11 16:50 |
| techrights-bot | #Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152187 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:50 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] The point that plainoldchair makes is simply this: this is double standards about "cancel culture" | Jun 11 16:50 |
| techrights-bot | #LibreOffice, Typesetting, and Curl-based HTTP/WebDAV UCP • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152186 #TuxMachines | Jun 11 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice, Typesetting, and Curl-based HTTP/WebDAV UCP | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:51 | |
| immibis | schestowitz: sure we do | Jun 11 16:52 |
| techrights-bot | #Firefox 89 - Another redesign, another rollercoaster https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-89.html #mozilla already killed most #firefox extensions. They have no clue what to do, except pay their CEO more and more money each year. Like #ibm does... | Jun 11 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Firefox 89 - Another redesign, another rollercoaster | Jun 11 16:53 | |
| immibis | seems accurate. But it's that or chrome or some spyware or some crippled browser or microsoft | Jun 11 16:54 |
| immibis | so your best option is still firefox | Jun 11 16:54 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: no it's not about this, eskimo told me about arxius, his image host, and how things went there and the history of its ToS | Jun 11 16:55 |
| techrights-bot | #PeaZip 8.0 is Here with Support for Even More Archive Types http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152153#comment-29933 | Jun 11 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PeaZip 8.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:56 | |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: as for this other thing, i mean, i've never made such videos, but a long time ago, i was also calling some people out on bad things they've done; this was horrible, but we're all flawed people | Jun 11 16:56 |
| CrystalMath | just because someone was once a part of "cancel culture" doesn't mean they can't turn back from that and fight against it | Jun 11 16:57 |
| techrights-bot | #arduino hyping up clown and other buzzwords https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/11/what-is-cloud-computing-and-what-does-it-do-for-iot/ | Jun 11 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | What is cloud computing, and what does it do for IoT? | Arduino Blog | Jun 11 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | immibis: yes, sort of true | Jun 11 16:58 |
| schestowitz | it's worrying though | Jun 11 16:58 |
| schestowitz | many sites, like banks, would not support a broad array of browsers | Jun 11 16:58 |
| schestowitz | and if Firefox folds, what's left? | Jun 11 16:58 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: if you dug up past things from me, you would find pretty extreme opinions that are polar opposites of things i said today | Jun 11 16:59 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: really you can't expect anyone to be consistent, since people change all the time, everything's always in a state of flux | Jun 11 16:59 |
| schestowitz | people tried this on oliva | Jun 11 16:59 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] "was once a part" – a year ago, Carol | Jun 11 16:59 |
| schestowitz | when he defended RMS | Jun 11 16:59 |
| schestowitz | they tried to cancel him too | Jun 11 16:59 |
| schestowitz | looked for stuff from his student days | Jun 11 16:59 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Weird, I barely changed in a year. | Jun 11 16:59 |
| schestowitz | different times, different culture | Jun 11 17:00 |
| schestowitz | like "dumb blonde" jokes | Jun 11 17:00 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] maybe more depressed and apathetic | Jun 11 17:00 |
| schestowitz | maybe the only solution then is to no longer associate with people as someone might say something 20 years later | Jun 11 17:01 |
| schestowitz | I heard, I saw.. | Jun 11 17:01 |
| schestowitz | in some random tweet | Jun 11 17:01 |
| schestowitz | out of context | Jun 11 17:01 |
| schestowitz | RMS "once told me a joke about women"... which I cannot even recall or name, but please like and share | Jun 11 17:01 |
| schestowitz | anyway, back on topic (Free software) :-) | Jun 11 17:02 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: We have a specific post from a year ago that casts a person's employer. | Jun 11 17:02 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] is that hearsay? that's a new definition for me | Jun 11 17:02 |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft inside #linux = bugs and chaos https://bkhome.org/news/202106/paragon-ntfs3-driver-compatibility-issues.html #swpats also... | Jun 11 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Paragon ntfs3 driver compatibility issues | Jun 11 17:05 | |
| immibis | schestowitz: what's left is chrome, of course. The one true browser. You may find some solace in the fact that we've been here before with IE6 and the world didn't end yet | Jun 11 17:05 |
| techrights-bot | Alyssa Rosenzweig: Free Software #OpenGL ES 3.1 on Mali GPUs with #Panfrost ⚓ https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/06/11/open-source-opengl-es-3.1-on-mali-gpus-with-panfrost/ ䷉ #collabora | Jun 11 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Open Source OpenGL ES 3.1 on Mali GPUs with Panfrost | Jun 11 17:06 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | https://donotpay.com/learn/chicago-parking-tickets/ | Jun 11 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-donotpay.com | Don't Pay Chicago Parking Tickets | 235,000+ Parking Tickets Beat [Free] | Jun 11 17:12 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Robot lawyer. Lol | Jun 11 17:12 |
| schestowitz | HEY HI | Jun 11 17:13 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The dispute options are right on the ticket. What is there to pay these people for? | Jun 11 17:13 |
| psydroid | RoboRIF! | Jun 11 17:13 |
| techrights-bot | #Mozilla : #Firefox 89, Rust, and SUMO • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152188 #www #TuxMachines | Jun 11 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Firefox 89, Rust, and SUMO | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:14 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | I beat a parking ticket for someone. The person who wrote it got him for expired plate but wrote down Illinois and it was a Wisconsin plate. | Jun 11 17:14 |
| schestowitz | car ownership still sounds like a lot of chores | Jun 11 17:15 |
| schestowitz | same as it was 20 years ago, but now with more "smart" | Jun 11 17:15 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Yeah, I'm in the shop right now. | Jun 11 17:15 |
| BaronVladimirHar | If it's going to cost a lot I may just buy a Toyota I had my eye on last night. | Jun 11 17:15 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I'm done with American cars. Even when someone gives one away it ain't cheap to keep. 😐 | Jun 11 17:16 |
| techrights-bot | Trying the "patriotism" card to sell an overpriced phone. Not sure about everyone, but to me "made in USA" means "made for NSA, FBI, ICE and for oil companies' international conquest" (not security) https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-news-summary-may-2021/ | Jun 11 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Librem 5 News Summary: May 2021 – Purism | Jun 11 17:17 | |
| techrights-bot | "Vecow’s rugged “AIC-100” and “AIC-110” IoT gateways run Linux on an i.MX6 ULL with 2x LAN, 2x COM, USB, and mini-PCIe with SIM. The larger AIC-110 adds 2x CAN and 12x isolated DIO." http://linuxgizmos.com/compact-arm-gateways-offer-optional-can-and-isolated-dio/ | Jun 11 17:18 |
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| BaronVladimirHar | schestowitz All of these fancy computers. Sounds like Garrett never figured the damned thing out and quietly changed his own subject. | Jun 11 17:19 |
| techrights-bot | Selling a product names after Hitler's mate, #ibm h https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1biByoM see http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Jun 11 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1biByoM ) | Jun 11 17:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Jun 11 17:19 | |
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| BaronVladimirHar | They won't give you basic diagnostic telemetry now without proprietary software. It's a regression vs OBD II. | Jun 11 17:20 |
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| BaronVladimirHar | We're basically back to proprietary vendor crap, which is the entire reason the government stepped in and forced them to use standardized codes in OBD II. | Jun 11 17:20 |
| BaronVladimirHar | All you're allowed to know is something vague is wrong with the car and you won't know more than that without dealer repair shops. | Jun 11 17:21 |
| BaronVladimirHar | And many of those bill $250 an hour now. | Jun 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | there are alternatives | Jun 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | but many people are indoctrinated into thinking those don't exist | Jun 11 17:22 |
| immibis | foreign phones are also made for all those companies, plus the CCP as well | Jun 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | immibis: they don't cost $2000 ^_^ | Jun 11 17:22 |
| immibis | valid | Jun 11 17:23 |
| schestowitz | as an American, you're at greater risk from your own gov. | Jun 11 17:23 |
| BaronVladimirHar | There's no bike paths in Waukegan and I doubt it's high on the lists considering the troubles. | Jun 11 17:23 |
| schestowitz | unless you travel to China or China invades the US and puts military bases there (like a certain other nation) | Jun 11 17:23 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The city is already in severe decline and accelerated population loss thanks to people fatigued by high taxes and lots of crime and pollution. | Jun 11 17:24 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Like most of Illinois. | Jun 11 17:24 |
| immibis | schestowitz: hmm, don't discount the soft power the CCP would get from censoring negative speech about them | Jun 11 17:24 |
| immibis | like they do on tiktok | Jun 11 17:24 |
| schestowitz | tiktok is chinese | Jun 11 17:24 |
| schestowitz | US never censored American firms ;) | Jun 11 17:25 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They're trying to use soft power with vaccines that don't do much and are harmful in their own right. | Jun 11 17:25 |
| immibis | americans use tiktok, and americans use chinese phones | Jun 11 17:25 |
| immibis | BaronVladimirHar: bullshit, well maybe their vaccines are, but we're not taking those ones in the western world | Jun 11 17:25 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The Chinese are dumping vaccines that don't work in MinceR's country. | Jun 11 17:26 |
| schestowitz | we don't do too well here either | Jun 11 17:26 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Orban is even paying taxpayer money for it because the EU blew getting real vaccines so badly. | Jun 11 17:26 |
| schestowitz | 8000+ new cases today | Jun 11 17:26 |
| schestowitz | and they say 80% (almost) of adults got the first AZ shot | Jun 11 17:26 |
| schestowitz | death toll almost doubles again | Jun 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz | AZ is effective | Jun 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz | it makes you very ill | Jun 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz | millions of people vomiting at home | Jun 11 17:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The death rate vs the number of cases in Illinois is going up. | Jun 11 17:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Less tests maybe. More tilted to serious cases. | Jun 11 17:27 |
| schestowitz | and thinking all will be rosy afterwards, now they blame "mutant" and "variant" | Jun 11 17:27 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Chicago is taking a victory lap over a virus that's still out there. Which is stupid. | Jun 11 17:28 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They need their tourism money back though. | Jun 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: the next vetsion of Windows will fix everything | Jun 11 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | AZ: the next doze will make you fall ill, but then you will be SUPERMAN! | Jun 11 17:28 |
| schestowitz | *dose | Jun 11 17:28 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Windows 11. | Jun 11 17:29 |
| techrights-bot | #Plasma , Mesa, curl Update in #Tumbleweed • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152190 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma, Mesa, curl Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | People who pass the thing around are mostly over-confident adults | Jun 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | not people who stay home and away from potential carriers | Jun 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | ~60 new carriers in our city today | Jun 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | sorry, 303 IIRC | Jun 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | in one day | Jun 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | it remains to be seen how those over-confident adults cope and then we want to assess the efficacy | Jun 11 17:31 |
| schestowitz | cannot be tested after 3-4 months of lock-down | Jun 11 17:31 |
| techrights-bot | #CuteFish is a New Linux Desktop Environment (with a Familiar Look) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152189 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CuteFish is a New Linux Desktop Environment (with a Familiar Look) | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:31 | |
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| schestowitz | BillBC attributes the benefit of the circuit breakers and lockdown to AZ alone... and already looks to deflect with racism | Jun 11 17:32 |
| schestowitz | like blaming "dirty indians" | Jun 11 17:32 |
| schestowitz | typical racist, psychopath bill gates (who insisted on those patents in AZ... with Oxford research WE paid for) | Jun 11 17:32 |
| immibis | schestowitz: I had AZ (other vaccines were reserved for people with higher risk), didn't vomit | Jun 11 17:34 |
| schestowitz | good | Jun 11 17:34 |
| schestowitz | my friends (around my age) all had similar symptoms http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/astrazeneca-experiences/ | Jun 11 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Message of Concern About AstraZeneca (Which Now Renames Its Products to Dodge Bad Reputation) | Jun 11 17:35 | |
| schestowitz | not to say it's not effective | Jun 11 17:35 |
| immibis | was *moderately* ill for one day after the first dose, nothing after the second. Nothing unmanageable, just uncomfortable. And only a few people (including me) took the day off work. Why are you saying it's terrible? | Jun 11 17:35 |
| schestowitz | but we work from home, so are nto rushing yet | Jun 11 17:35 |
| schestowitz | immibis: read above | Jun 11 17:35 |
| immibis | why should I trust your anecdote over my anecdote? | Jun 11 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I trust both | Jun 11 17:36 |
| schestowitz | and colleagues' too | Jun 11 17:36 |
| schestowitz | around my age | Jun 11 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | they are starting to offer more options now | Jun 11 17:37 |
| schestowitz | I can understand why Linus (fifties) would shout at people over it | Jun 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | or RMS near age 70 | Jun 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | they should definitely take something | Jun 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | and they probably travel more | Jun 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | the rush to vaccine kids is irrational | Jun 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | and based on little evidence that it would be needed | Jun 11 17:39 |
| techrights-bot | #Kernel : Paragon, PREEMPT_RT, #OpenZFS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152191 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Paragon, PREEMPT_RT, OpenZFS | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:40 | |
| immibis | especially when your anecdote contradicts my actual experience, and reads like the kind of nonsense antivaxxers push all the time, why should I put any weight whatsoever on it? | Jun 11 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Greater Manchester Police | Jun 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | age groups specified, people not named | Jun 11 17:41 |
| immibis | the rush to vaccinate kids is because there's a rush to vaccinate everyone to get R<1 | Jun 11 17:41 |
| techrights-bot | #Graphics : Panfrost, NVIDIA, and AMDVLK • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152192 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Panfrost, NVIDIA, and AMDVLK | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:41 | |
| immibis | it wouldn't be necessary if we'd stop transmission the natural way, but we refused that, so widespread vaccination is plan B | Jun 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | countries could get there by being responsible and isolating | Jun 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | NZ | Jun 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | not like here where people jump over each other inside indoor pubs | Jun 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | with barely a mask on | Jun 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | as if the jabs made them invulnerable to everything | Jun 11 17:43 |
| schestowitz | an attitude encouraged by the stupid, flamboyant Pry Minister | Jun 11 17:43 |
| immibis | do recognize it's not about governments but about people - government's job is to tell people what to do, but people's job is to actually do it (if it's good) | Jun 11 17:44 |
| immibis | even in many places where the government said to do all these things to reduce transmission, people didn't. "many places" mostly means many american states. | Jun 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | We quit going to the gym | Jun 11 17:44 |
| immibis | ... although their highest level of government told them not to, so maybe they don't count either | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | because of reckless users | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | it's an attitude thing | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Boris "shook my hands with everyone..." Johnson | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | "let the bodies pile up high" | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | "shop with confidence" | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | as if that's a priority... consumerism | Jun 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe he wants to pack up stadiums again to show us how macho he is | Jun 11 17:46 |
| schestowitz | when the leadership fails, you need contingent thinking | Jun 11 17:46 |
| schestowitz | see India/Modi | Jun 11 17:46 |
| schestowitz | people no longer listen to their government | Jun 11 17:46 |
| immibis | when the leadership fails, you would hope that the people are smart enough to do the best thing anyway | Jun 11 17:46 |
| schestowitz | they're in the pockets of banks | Jun 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | and banks that "own" office "property" | Jun 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | and they now want to force people back into office spaces | Jun 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | for no PRACTICAL reasons | Jun 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | immibis: sadly, both the leadership sucks and the attitude | Jun 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | so people start picking up random "info" from random "man with webcam" youtube channels | Jun 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | and then we end up with lunacy becoming more prevalent | Jun 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe more potent governments (e.g. NZ, Norway, Finland) would manage to keep it under control, if it weren't for foreign sites like FB | Jun 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | which peddle crap from cretins in other countries | Jun 11 17:49 |
| immibis | possibly | Jun 11 17:51 |
| immibis | is it only right wing people who act in these ridiculous ways? It seems like an easy pattern to spot | Jun 11 17:52 |
| MinceR | 11 183403 < immibis> schestowitz: I had AZ (other vaccines were reserved for people with higher risk), didn't vomit | Jun 11 17:52 |
| MinceR | same | Jun 11 17:52 |
| techrights-bot | #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152193 #TuxMachines | Jun 11 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | 4,000 deaths in India again today | Jun 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Wow, Peru rose to 6 deaths in 1,000 | Jun 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | approaching 1% of the population | Jun 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Hungary second, MinceR | Jun 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | like Orban likes it | Jun 11 17:57 |
| MinceR | hungary's glory days are over | Jun 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | one term for Putin, then Putin's choice of US President :-) | Jun 11 17:57 |
| techrights-bot | "The GNOME Foundation is a US-based non-profit that owns the GNOME trademark" and fronts for the #monopolies that sponsor and man it https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2021/06/11/power-community-1/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation#Introduction | Jun 11 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Community Power Part 1: Misconceptions – Space and Meaning | Jun 11 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - Techrights | Jun 11 18:01 | |
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| techrights-bot | "In response to a question about the #GNU #Linux version becoming available at release, one of their team replied to mention "Yes it will. We have native port in works which sill requires some work but will be ready."." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/encased-a-sci-fi-post-apocalyptic-rpg-to-release-this-fall-with-a-linux-version | Jun 11 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encased, a sci-fi post-apocalyptic RPG to release this 'Fall' with a Linux version | GamingOnLinux | Jun 11 18:04 | |
| techrights-bot | "The Pinephone is a Linux phone that is a great idea, but currently flawed and buggy. But despite the quirks and instability, this phone is VERY important. In this review, I'll give you guys my thoughts on the #Pinephone - and whether or not you should consider buying it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqWLbjov-bQ | Jun 11 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pinephone Review (and why we NEED this phone!) - YouTube | Jun 11 18:05 | |
| immibis | can you hack it yourself? if so, remind me to buy one | Jun 11 18:06 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: No, it's even more unhackable than iPhone! | Jun 11 18:07 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Of course ye can %). | Jun 11 18:07 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] even more so, ye cannot not do that | Jun 11 18:07 |
| MinceR | you can run your own OS on it by inserting a microSD card without risking bricking | Jun 11 18:07 |
| MinceR | and it seems to be well documented and supported by several OS projects | Jun 11 18:08 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: There's no risk bricking | Jun 11 18:08 |
| MinceR | with some phones, there is | Jun 11 18:08 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] right, but not here | Jun 11 18:08 |
| MinceR | because typically they only boot from built-in flash and if you fuck up writing that, you get a brick | Jun 11 18:08 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Ah, that's what ye meant. Never mind. | Jun 11 18:08 |
| MinceR | Allwinner was smart enough to support booting from removable devices in some of their SoCs and that's what the pinephone makes use of | Jun 11 18:08 |
| techrights-bot | #linuxfoundation fronting for racist #ibm https://hitconsultant.net/2021/06/11/linux-foundation-public-health-global-covid-certificate-network/ this is about spying http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ | Jun 11 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hitconsultant.net | Linux Foundation Public Health creates the Global COVID Certificate Network | Jun 11 18:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights | Jun 11 18:09 | |
| immibis | what is it with techrights and vaccines? | Jun 11 18:09 |
| MinceR | vaccines are technology and we're in a global plague :> | Jun 11 18:09 |
| MinceR | also, apparently the owners of the Linux-Destroying Foundation are trying to abuse the Linux brand on everything | Jun 11 18:09 |
| immibis | yeah but why is it apparently anti them | Jun 11 18:09 |
| MinceR | is it? | Jun 11 18:09 |
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| MinceR | what i've seen so far is that schestowitz is against rushing with vaccinating everyone, which is understandable | Jun 11 18:10 |
| MinceR | there are also patent issues, which bill gates is lobbying to keep in place | Jun 11 18:10 |
| immibis | what is wrong with a standard format for vaccination certificates | Jun 11 18:11 |
| MinceR | probably nothing | Jun 11 18:11 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't trust the likes of microsoft, ibm and vmware with it though | Jun 11 18:11 |
| MinceR | even if they had good intentions (which hasn't happened so far), they'd likely fuck it up | Jun 11 18:12 |
| MinceR | it also doesn't have anything to do with Linux | Jun 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz | [18:09] <immibis> what is it with techrights and vaccines? | Jun 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz | that was NOT about vaccines | Jun 11 18:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Linux Foundation and vaccines. Wow. | Jun 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz | read the text, watch the video | Jun 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz | it's not about vaccines at all | Jun 11 18:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I didn't know the Linux kernel had anything to do with vaccines. | Jun 11 18:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Learn something new every day... | Jun 11 18:13 |
| schestowitz | it's IBM et al doing surveillance | Jun 11 18:13 |
| immibis | so what is wrong with a standard format for vaccination certificates? | Jun 11 18:13 |
| schestowitz | BaronVladimirHar: nothing to do with Linux | Jun 11 18:14 |
| schestowitz | it's one of many examples where they slap the Linux brand on totally unrelated things | Jun 11 18:14 |
| schestowitz | they overkill it | Jun 11 18:14 |
| schestowitz | [11:26] <techrights-bot> #microsoft must be very, very pleased seeing how the #linuxfoundation engages in brand dilution against the brand "LINUX" (Linux means Windows, Linux means Microsoft). In some countries "colgate" just became synonymous with toothpaste so when you ask for Colgate they even give your the COMPETITORS' products. Linux as a brand? Doomed. http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ | Jun 11 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights | Jun 11 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | RMS also opposes this for the record, and he is VERY PRO-COVID19 VACCINATION. http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | Jun 11 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | Jun 11 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | the issue here is that companies want to build databases and control people | Jun 11 18:16 |
| schestowitz | and COVID just came "at the right time" for them | Jun 11 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin and the sunshine boys are just a marketing front, one of many | Jun 11 18:16 |
| phobos | pretty convenient, isn't it? | Jun 11 18:16 |
| schestowitz | IBM: we're going bankrupt. HELP! | Jun 11 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: we're failing everywhere | Jun 11 18:17 |
| schestowitz | IBM: you need to bail us out, like banks | Jun 11 18:17 |
| schestowitz | public health depends on it! | Jun 11 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: all the medical records are on Windows/Azure, there would be chaos if you let us lay off staff | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | I'm sorry, but I don't buy that IBM is approaching bankrupt | Jun 11 18:18 |
| schestowitz | they become like little governments | Jun 11 18:18 |
| schestowitz | phobos: they lose a lot of staff | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | I'm sure they have much more money than they are letting on | Jun 11 18:18 |
| schestowitz | IBM is bleeding | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | Yeah, but that isn't anything new | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | all companies do that | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | lay off, hire, lay off, hire | Jun 11 18:18 |
| schestowitz | not equally | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | we'll see though | Jun 11 18:18 |
| phobos | If they are, we'll know in the next 3 months | Jun 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz | the media likes to muddle things | Jun 11 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I recently spoke to someone from Microsoft who thought the sole issue with gates is womanising | Jun 11 18:21 |
| schestowitz | didn't realise the real scandal, which instigated the divorce, was the relationship with Epstein | Jun 11 18:22 |
| schestowitz | in IBM's case, they lie about growth | Jun 11 18:22 |
| schestowitz | they play with pots | Jun 11 18:22 |
| schestowitz | same thing Microsoft does | Jun 11 18:22 |
| schestowitz | rebranding and shuffling money around | Jun 11 18:22 |
| schestowitz | I think LF likes how Torvalds blasted some idiot, as it helps confuse people about its mass surveillance IBM campaign | Jun 11 18:23 |
| schestowitz | which is not about vaccination | Jun 11 18:23 |
| schestowitz | The PR tactics is to interject a similar story that's not the real one | Jun 11 18:23 |
| schestowitz | and then repeat and repeat | Jun 11 18:23 |
| schestowitz | people lose sight of the original criticsm | Jun 11 18:24 |
| *tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] watches the PinePhone video | Jun 11 18:25 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] he says that his PinePhone Beta Edition came with… p-boot o_0 | Jun 11 18:25 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Well, that's weird. | Jun 11 18:26 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] He didn't clarify whether his SD card was plugged or unplugged, so it's possible that he just booted from there. | Jun 11 18:26 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] in that case, it's an oopsie | Jun 11 18:27 |
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| techrights-bot | #Devices : Timesys, Librem, Arduino on Clown Computing • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152196 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Timesys, Librem, Arduino on Clown Computing | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:29 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Also I think that pine64 started selling the PinePhone with a USB dock only recently | Jun 11 18:29 |
| techrights-bot | Compact Arm gateways offer optional CAN and isolated DIO • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152195 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact Arm gateways offer optional CAN and isolated DIO | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:29 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] which makes me think that his previous "bad" PinePhone is the same phone as the new phone that he purchased | Jun 11 18:29 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:29 | |
| schestowitz | did he purchase it, XRevan86? | Jun 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | sometimes they ship 'gifts' to 'influencers\ | Jun 11 18:30 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I was way off. It's the front struts on the car. I'm having both of them replaced right now. | Jun 11 18:30 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: He said that he did. This one anyway. | Jun 11 18:30 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Not cheap but not a catastrophe. | Jun 11 18:31 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Anyway, I already don't like aspects of the review. | Jun 11 18:31 |
| tr-bridge | [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: it can also boot from eMMC | Jun 11 18:31 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: He showed how he plugged in the SD card. | Jun 11 18:32 |
| tr-bridge | [MinceR/tr] i just left the OS in the eMMC in mine undisturbed after trying it out | Jun 11 18:32 |
| techrights-bot | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152197 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:32 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and then a few clips later… p-boot | Jun 11 18:32 |
| MinceR | sadly, i couldn't get p-boot itself to boot | Jun 11 18:33 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Neither could he :) | Jun 11 18:33 |
| MinceR | it would just turn a LED on for a few seconds and then shutdown | Jun 11 18:33 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I think it's more likely that it's his fsck-up than Pine64's | Jun 11 18:33 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and it feels like he's not aware that Beta Edition is the same PinePhone 1.2b as almost all the Community Edition's had except for pmOS CE and UBports CE | Jun 11 18:35 |
| MinceR | the back cover of the case is also different :> | Jun 11 18:35 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and even then the differences with 1.2a (pmOS CE) and 1.2 (UBports CE) are not that significant | Jun 11 18:35 |
| MinceR | (in that it only has the Pine64 logo) | Jun 11 18:35 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: That indeed is :) | Jun 11 18:35 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] but he claimed "bugs" | Jun 11 18:35 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] and I can only believe that if he had Braveheart Edition or even earlier | Jun 11 18:36 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] or if he tried OTG on 1.2 (UBports CE) | Jun 11 18:36 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I don't know the specifics, but if he had UBports CE the docking might've had problems. | Jun 11 18:37 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] apart from that, there are barely any differences | Jun 11 18:39 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I'll finish watching, he should address his first PinePhone. | Jun 11 18:41 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] > when I purchased my original model 7 months ago | Jun 11 18:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] yea, he bought the same phone twice | Jun 11 18:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] > the pmOS CE version | Jun 11 18:44 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Ah… I see. They still sell those, eh? | Jun 11 18:45 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Jun 11 18:45 |
| MinceR | when i ordered mine (BE) none of the CE-s were available for sale anymore | Jun 11 18:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: 7 months ago BE shouldn't be out yet | Jun 11 18:45 |
| MinceR | and currently only BE is available | Jun 11 18:45 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] but 1.2a would already be a dated platform | Jun 11 18:46 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] I guess they sold those anyway. | Jun 11 18:46 |
| techrights-bot | #FreeSoftware Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152198 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw | Jun 11 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:46 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152199 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:46 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] Either way, 1.2b only has one fix over 1.2a, which is: "connecting a VBUS powered device lowered the screen brightness" | Jun 11 18:46 |
| techrights-bot | #Videos : #Makulu Shift Teaser II, Pinephone Review, and Replacing Google Photos • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152200 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Makulu Shift Teaser II, Pinephone Review, and Replacing Google Photos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 18:46 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] so unless he had exactly that as a bug, he still bought the same phone twice :) | Jun 11 18:47 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_v1.2b for reference | Jun 11 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.pine64.org | PinePhone v1.2b - PINE64 | Jun 11 18:48 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] They also say that some other backlight issues may or may not have been fixed in the process. | Jun 11 18:48 |
| techrights-bot | Links 11/6/2021: Nginx Rising and SteamPal Rumours • 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/steampal-rumours/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/steampal-rumours/ | Jun 11 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/6/2021: Nginx Rising and SteamPal Rumours | Techrights | Jun 11 18:51 | |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Still a better review than from Linus Tech Tips. | Jun 11 18:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 18:53 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] at least he actually looked at the current state of affairs so to speak | Jun 11 18:55 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] while on LTT/ShortCircuit the review was practically trying to do everything wrong and then be surprised at the bad results | Jun 11 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86 Linux or Linus? | Jun 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | iirc, there's some hugely popular youtuber called linus | Jun 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | who does hardwar | Jun 11 19:05 |
| MinceR | that's the one who does LTT | Jun 11 19:06 |
| MinceR | not Linux, not Torvalds | Jun 11 19:06 |
| immibis | linux torvalds tips | Jun 11 19:06 |
| techrights-bot | "Most likely moving to #Kyndryl . Reason being is #IBM can dictate the price. Same for other pieces of IBM that are shrinking (Power, Storage, TSS, and TPP)" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1biByoMH#replies | Jun 11 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Is there any new information about IBM selling Watson Health? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 19:06 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 19:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I think I saw him in passing | Jun 11 19:07 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'm talking about https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs (I mentioned it before) | Jun 11 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This $200 phone can do ANYTHING!!! - Pine64 Pinephone - YouTube | Jun 11 19:07 | |
| phobos | except run iOS | Jun 11 19:08 |
| phobos | ;) | Jun 11 19:08 |
| MinceR | i suppose you could run it in qemu | Jun 11 19:09 |
| MinceR | not sure why anyone would want to, though | Jun 11 19:09 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] "can do anything" – I think it means that it's a general-purpose computer :) | Jun 11 19:10 |
| techrights-bot | #mozilla on its #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware -hosted based 'software' for 'big data'... "sensitive data users explicitly decided to share with us (think, just as an example, things as sensitive as full URLs)." https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/06/11/danger-zone-handling-sensitive-data-in-glean/ #firefox | Jun 11 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | ⚠️Danger zone⚠️: handling sensitive data in Glean – Data@Mozilla | Jun 11 19:10 | |
| MinceR | i thought it meant that it was almighty :> | Jun 11 19:10 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] not that it can run some bit of proprietary code targeted at a different particular platform | Jun 11 19:10 |
| techrights-bot | "With the advent of Glean, Mozilla’s Data Org took the opportunity to improve this area, allowing our internal customers to build better data products." "Customers"?! #mozilla #firefox "Data products"? #google #surveillanceCapitalism #microsoft https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/06/11/danger-zone-handling-sensitive-data-in-glean/ | Jun 11 19:11 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: We need to teach it the American values before it's too late | Jun 11 19:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 19:11 |
| techrights-bot | If you don't think #mozilla and #firefox have become a little dodgy, then you probably haven't paid much attention in recent years... http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ | Jun 11 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights | Jun 11 19:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #GNU #Guix : Reproducible data processing pipelines • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152201 #webm #TuxMachines | Jun 11 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Guix: Reproducible data processing pipelines | Tux Machines | Jun 11 19:13 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] One of the good things that the this new review does that LTT didn't is figure out that if BE is out with Manjaro KDE, then that should be the software to review | Jun 11 19:15 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] while LTT looked at an unfortunately broke pre-built Mobian first and then at an alpha-quality mess that p-boot is. | Jun 11 19:15 |
| MinceR | that's funny because KDE on pmOS is less buggy than KDE on manjaro | Jun 11 19:16 |
| MinceR | and phosh on pmOS is less buggy than KDE on pmOS | Jun 11 19:16 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] They bashed phosh (on GTK 3) for being slow | Jun 11 19:16 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Did ye try phosh on Mobian or Manjaro yet? | Jun 11 19:17 |
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| MinceR | since KDE on manjaro was preinstalled, i tried that first | Jun 11 19:17 |
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| MinceR | i didn't try phosh on any OS other than pmOS | Jun 11 19:17 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Like I said before, in my experience something is wrong about phosh on pmOS. | Jun 11 19:18 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] it's considerably slower animation-wise than on anything else | Jun 11 19:18 |
| MinceR | it didn't seem so to me but i turned off animations anyway | Jun 11 19:18 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: When ye scroll, ye have to observe some animation, right? | Jun 11 19:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 11 19:19 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] well that's total trash | Jun 11 19:19 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▄▄▅▅▆▄▃▂▃▅▅▃▅▆▅▆▅▅▄▅▃▄▅▆▆▃▄▆▄▃▄▆▅▁▁ avg(k/sec) 22.51 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▃▂▁▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 7.53▕ swarm size (avg): 243.27 ⟲ | Jun 11 19:20 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Regarding KDE, I didn't find anything wrong with the keyboard other than autocomplete | Jun 11 19:21 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] https://youtu.be/pOhmDeih19g a whole hour of extremist materials with English subtitles, don't watch it definitely | Jun 11 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Вся правда об отравлении Навального - YouTube | Jun 11 19:24 | |
| techrights-bot | Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer: Firsts steps into #QML https://perezmeyer.com.ar/blog/2021/06/21/firsts-steps-into-qml/ #kde | Jun 11 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-perezmeyer.com.ar | Firsts steps into QML – Solo sé que se querer, que tengo Dios y tengo fe | Jun 11 19:26 | |
| techrights-bot | Linux Foundation Newsletter June 2021 released just now... and OF COURSE IT RUNS ON WINDOWS!!! #microsof #windows https://www.linux.com/audience/developers/linux-foundation-newsletter-june-2021-lgbtq-scholarship-save-25-on-all-training-certification-5g-super-blueprints-spdx-for-supply-chain-security-open-source-trademarks/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/ | Jun 11 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Newsletter June 2021: LGBTQ Scholarship, Save 25% On All Training & Certification, 5G Super Blueprints, SPDX for Supply Chain Security, Open Source Trademarks - Linux.com | Jun 11 19:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | Techrights | Jun 11 19:27 | |
| techrights-bot | Humble are giving away #SurvivingMars for the next 72 hours | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/humble-are-giving-away-surviving-mars-for-the-next-72-hours ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humble are giving away Surviving Mars for the next 72 hours | GamingOnLinux | Jun 11 19:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 19:29 | |
| techrights-bot | #HowTo Easily Rename Files in Linux - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/rename-files-in-linux/ ䷉ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Easily Rename Files in Linux - Make Tech Easier | Jun 11 19:29 | |
| techrights-bot | Linux Kernel Prepares For Intel Xeon CPUs With On-Package HBM Memory - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Prepares-Xeon-HBM ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Kernel Prepares For Intel Xeon CPUs With On-Package HBM Memory - Phoronix | Jun 11 19:30 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] One could claim that even the first ten minutes paint a clear picture but one would be an extremist sympathiser. | Jun 11 19:33 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] don't be that one | Jun 11 19:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 19:36 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/f6d0d76b0f973db7.jpg | Jun 11 19:40 |
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| techrights-bot | Things WINE can do... ⚓ https://www.xda-developers.com/use-itunes-chromebook/ ䷉ #xda-developers | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Can I run iTunes on a Chromebook? | Jun 11 20:09 | |
| techrights-bot | Bootloader #Grub 2.06 improves security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152087#comment-29935 | Jun 11 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GRUB 2.06 release | Tux Machines | Jun 11 20:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #Openwashing by #linuxfoundation https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/snowflake_data_marketplace/ #ProprietarySoftware | Jun 11 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Snowflake agrees it's good to share... on its platform, while Databricks opts for a more vendor-neutral approach • The Register | Jun 11 20:14 | |
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| AdmFubar | damn! apple scammers are in full force today.. 4 call this afternoon so far | Jun 11 20:16 |
| techrights-bot | Best #Programming Languages for Machine Learning ⚓ https://www.technotification.com/2021/06/programming-languages-for-machine-learning.html ䷉ #technotification | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technotification.com | Best Programming Languages for Machine Learning | Jun 11 20:18 | |
| techrights-bot | Bribe, not "Research Award" https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2021/Q2/purdue-researchers-receive-amazon-research-award-for-streaming-video-analytics-method-on-iot-devices.html academi being distorted by oligarchs and corporations. This one will help #surveillance | Jun 11 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.purdue.edu | Purdue researchers receive Amazon Research Award for streaming video analytics method on IoT devices - Purdue University News | Jun 11 20:20 | |
| techrights-bot | "Founder Josh Cliffords created #FreeWater after volunteering with refugees who had revealed the water scarcity issues they had faced." https://www.bevnet.com/news/2021/freewater-launches-with-a-foundation-and-focus-in-philanthropy/ | Jun 11 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeWater Launches With A Foundation And Focus In Philanthropy - BevNET.com | Jun 11 20:23 | |
| immibis | half of academia has always focused on useful things and been partially funded by industry, this is not new | Jun 11 20:24 |
| techrights-bot | First Apache Ignite Summit Energizes Global Audience | Benzinga ⚓ https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/21/06/g21513193/first-apache-ignite-summit-energizes-global-audience ䷉ #benzinga | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-First Apache Ignite Summit Energizes Global Audience | Benzinga | Jun 11 20:25 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/756599.jpg | Jun 11 20:39 |
| BaronVladimirHar | <MinceR "(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2"> A Jeep with a cat mod. | Jun 11 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://img.pr0gramm.com/2 ) | Jun 11 20:46 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 20:47 |
| BaronVladimirHar | https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/6/10/22528115/microsoft-windows-11-startup-sound-new-teaser-video | Jun 11 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft teases new Windows 11 startup sound with 11-minute video - The Verge | Jun 11 20:49 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Maybe because it takes 11 minutes to boot now. | Jun 11 20:49 |
| MinceR | ooh, a new startup sound | Jun 11 20:49 |
| MinceR | and new icons | Jun 11 20:49 |
| MinceR | imagine what would happen if someone developed a UI where users could replace the startup sound and the icons | Jun 11 20:50 |
| BaronVladimirHar | I always disabled the startup sound on Windows because it was annoying and it was something the computer had to load while it was trying to boot up. | Jun 11 20:51 |
| BaronVladimirHar | The one on Windows 98 was just insanely long too. | Jun 11 20:51 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] "Windows 11" – the heck? | Jun 11 20:53 |
| psydroid | Windows 1337 | Jun 11 20:54 |
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| BaronVladimirHar | Internet Explorer Mode is disabled by default in Edge. | Jun 11 21:07 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Pretty clear they don't want to make it easy to access unless you know you have a damned good reason to. | Jun 11 21:07 |
| MinceR | can you also disable Edge Mode in Edge? :> | Jun 11 21:07 |
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| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] That would be Chromium Mode? | Jun 11 21:08 |
| MinceR | it would be, if the whole point of Idiot Edgesploiter wasn't to try and ride on the coattails of chromium and pretend microshit developed something new :> | Jun 11 21:08 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They do work upstream on Chromium. | Jun 11 21:11 |
| MinceR | is it like their hype-V stuff in Linux? | Jun 11 21:11 |
| BaronVladimirHar | No, it's generally applicable to any browser that uses Chromium. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| MinceR | i mean the code quality | Jun 11 21:12 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Well, it gets double checked by Google for what that's worth. | Jun 11 21:18 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▅▃▂▆▃▆▄▅▆▃▅▆▅▂▄▄▄▄▃▅▃▅▆▅▄▄▄▅▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 22.98 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▃▂▁▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.51▕ swarm size (avg): 243.31 ⟲ | Jun 11 21:20 |
| techrights-bot | #Openwashing https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/10/rudderstack-targets-developers-with-open-source-customer-data-platform/ | Jun 11 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RudderStack targets developers with open source customer data platform | VentureBeat | Jun 11 21:20 | |
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| gustaf | https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-gnu-move-official-irc-channels-to-libera-chat-network | Jun 11 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF and GNU move official IRC channels to Libera.Chat network — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Jun 11 21:53 | |
| MinceR | RIP, FSF | Jun 11 21:54 |
| psydroid | why not an irc.gnu.org server with bridges to Freenode and LC? | Jun 11 22:01 |
| MinceR | because that would not make it easier for FSF's enemies to try cancelling the FSF again and to interfere with the operations of the FSF | Jun 11 22:02 |
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| MinceR | (audio) https://hugelol.com/lol/756377 | Jun 11 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | just taking my fish out for a walk | Jun 11 22:14 | |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] > and once we had weighed the community feedback we received along our criteria and personal experiences as Freenode channel operators, our choice of Libera.Chat became clear | Jun 11 22:15 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Sure. | Jun 11 22:15 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/friday-gift-microsoft-teams-bugs-puts-calls-directly-in-voicemail/ | Jun 11 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Friday gift: Microsoft Teams bug puts calls directly in voicemail | Jun 11 22:16 | |
| gustaf | psydroid: apparently the current irc.gnu.org points to Freenode | Jun 11 22:18 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] They need to update that. | Jun 11 22:22 |
| MinceR | they say they'll delete the record | Jun 11 22:22 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll remake it later, but presumably they don't want unwary users' clients to send freenode credentials to libera | Jun 11 22:23 |
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| kn\ | FSF is leaving freenode | Jun 11 22:30 |
| MinceR | we know | Jun 11 22:30 |
| MinceR | they're circling the drain | Jun 11 22:30 |
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| gustaf | I hardly think the choice of IRC network is fatal to the FSF | Jun 11 22:33 |
| MinceR | not immediately | Jun 11 22:34 |
| MinceR | it's just another control they've handed to the people who wanted to cancel them | Jun 11 22:34 |
| kn\ | cool story. | Jun 11 22:36 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] And I quote: "and personal experiences as Freenode channel operators, our choice of Libera.Chat became clear" | Jun 11 22:37 |
| gustaf | bit far-fetched | Jun 11 22:37 |
| gustaf | I mean, where do they host fsf.org? | Jun 11 22:37 |
| gustaf | that's a bigger target | Jun 11 22:38 |
| MinceR | "look, a three-headed monkey!" | Jun 11 22:38 |
| gustaf | the #fsf channel has a bit more then 200 nicks in it | Jun 11 22:39 |
| gustaf | also, given the choice of a network that *might* cancel them in the future, and a network that *has* cancelled multiple channels already, the choice is easier | Jun 11 22:40 |
| MinceR | that's a gross misrepresentation of both what libera opers did and what freenode did | Jun 11 22:41 |
| kn\ | Anyway | Jun 11 22:41 |
| kn\ | I am not here to debate anything | Jun 11 22:41 |
| gustaf | I saw what I saw MinceR | Jun 11 22:43 |
| gustaf | I was in a channel that was hijacked | Jun 11 22:43 |
| MinceR | and you have no idea why or how it was hijacked, or you wouldn't have called "cancelling" | Jun 11 22:43 |
| gustaf | Freenode staff decided THEY knew better than US how to run the channel | Jun 11 22:44 |
| psymin | MinceR, which irc network do you think they should choose? | Jun 11 22:44 |
| MinceR | and you didn't look at the list of their opers and the list of the signatures on the anti-RMS letter, or you wouldn't have referred to it as a potential cancellation in the future | Jun 11 22:44 |
| gustaf | MinceR: our channel was cancelled from Freenode | Jun 11 22:44 |
| MinceR | i think they should have chosen umbrellanet | Jun 11 22:44 |
| gustaf | no ifs or buts | Jun 11 22:44 |
| MinceR | so the newest defense from cancel culture is now they're calling everything "cancelled" | Jun 11 22:45 |
| gustaf | "cancel culture" means nothing | Jun 11 22:45 |
| gustaf | it's just "PC" gussied up | Jun 11 22:45 |
| gustaf | and RMS is back on the FSF board | Jun 11 22:46 |
| gustaf | solid voting majority behind him | Jun 11 22:46 |
| MinceR | so i guess we all just hallucinated RMS being cancelled earlier | Jun 11 22:46 |
| MinceR | yes, he came back | Jun 11 22:46 |
| MinceR | and so the corporate SJW puppets tried to cancel him again | Jun 11 22:46 |
| gustaf | ok, define how he was cancelled | Jun 11 22:46 |
| MinceR | along with the board | Jun 11 22:46 |
| MinceR | read this >> https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ | Jun 11 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An open letter to remove Richard M. Stallman from all leadership positions | rms-open-letter.github.io | Jun 11 22:46 | |
| gustaf | because really | Jun 11 22:46 |
| gustaf | it would be good to have an example | Jun 11 22:46 |
| gustaf | I;ve read it all MinceR | Jun 11 22:47 |
| gustaf | I wasn;t born yesteray | Jun 11 22:47 |
| MinceR | or you could stop trying to argue in bad faith | Jun 11 22:47 |
| gustaf | I read the original defense letter by that weirdo | Jun 11 22:47 |
| gustaf | where he said he liked his women between 12 and 16 | Jun 11 22:47 |
| MinceR | really, i have better things to do than waste my attention on someone who wants microsoft and ibm to control the FSF and own its copyrights | Jun 11 22:47 |
| gustaf | lol that's what you think? | Jun 11 22:47 |
| gustaf | and you think I want that? | Jun 11 22:48 |
| gustaf | how hte hell did you make that connection? | Jun 11 22:48 |
| gustaf | whateve | Jun 11 22:48 |
| gustaf | the FSF has had years to deal with this | Jun 11 22:49 |
| gustaf | but go ahead and white knight them | Jun 11 22:49 |
| gustaf | I'm sure they appreciate it | Jun 11 22:49 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] who the fuck cares | Jun 11 22:49 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] it is a goddamn irc network | Jun 11 22:49 |
| MinceR | who cares at this point | Jun 11 22:49 |
| MinceR | if the FSF wants to be destroyed, let them destroy themselves | Jun 11 22:49 |
| gustaf | ok so now they're the bad guys? | Jun 11 22:50 |
| gustaf | man | Jun 11 22:50 |
| gustaf | gettign whiplash here | Jun 11 22:50 |
| MinceR | they're behaving in a careless, self-destructive manner | Jun 11 22:50 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] The former freenode staff is out to get FSF | Jun 11 22:50 |
| schestowitz | they chose another master | Jun 11 22:50 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] there are certainly valid criticisms of the FSF in relation to the board's stewardship (which was broken before RMS got "cancelled" anyway) | Jun 11 22:50 |
| schestowitz | which includes people who want to undermine them | Jun 11 22:51 |
| MinceR | yeah, how dare the board support RMS when the holy corporations decided he must go | Jun 11 22:51 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] i would have preferred that they went with self-hosting, and tried hard to make the case privately | Jun 11 22:51 |
| gustaf | I'm pretty sure IRC isn't a big communications channel for FSF | Jun 11 22:51 |
| schestowitz | self-hosting would be the way to go | Jun 11 22:51 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] lately they use jitsi a lot more | Jun 11 22:51 |
| MinceR | it especially won't be once anyone who disagrees with the corporate puppets gets k-lined | Jun 11 22:51 |
| gustaf | comparative advantage | Jun 11 22:52 |
| gustaf | MinceR: like IRCcloud? ;) | Jun 11 22:52 |
| MinceR | i don't know about irccloud | Jun 11 22:52 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] irccloud is non-free software | Jun 11 22:52 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] who cares | Jun 11 22:52 |
| gustaf | why run your own infra if someone else can do it for oyu, for free even! | Jun 11 22:52 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: IRCCloud got k-lined today | Jun 11 22:52 |
| MinceR | is that like the mibbit issue from earlier? | Jun 11 22:52 |
| MinceR | yes, but why | Jun 11 22:52 |
| psydroid | lol | Jun 11 22:52 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] dunno, but I saw the word "accidentally" | Jun 11 22:52 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Jun 11 22:52 |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] gustaf it is not for free, you give up your autonomy over personal logs when you use irccloud | Jun 11 22:52 |
| MinceR | if it was "accidental", was it not removed since? | Jun 11 22:53 |
| psydroid | k-lined on that other network? | Jun 11 22:53 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] so I assume a host of a bad actor got banned | Jun 11 22:53 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Don't know if it was or not. | Jun 11 22:53 |
| gustaf | MinceR: apparently , freenode staff wanted to k-line a bunch of cloaks who had posted in ##moving-to-libera, and someone made a boo-boo and included all of IRCcloud's cloaks | Jun 11 22:53 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] psydroid: Yes, on freenode. | Jun 11 22:53 |
| techrights-bot | HEY HI based, based on buzzwords and hooey. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210610005179/en/New-AI-Based-Clinical-Trial-Matching-Solution-Deep-Lens%E2%80%99-Viper%E2%84%A2-Expanding-Offering-to-Cancer-Patients-at-Norton-Healthcare | Jun 11 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | New AI-Based Clinical Trial Matching Solution, Deep Lens’ Viper™, Expanding Offering to Cancer Patients at Norton Healthcare | Business Wire | Jun 11 22:53 | |
| MinceR | anyway, i don't know why anyone would even want to use irccloud | Jun 11 22:53 |
| MinceR | gustaf: ah, so the usual incompetence | Jun 11 22:53 |
| gustaf | mhmm | Jun 11 22:53 |
| tr-bridge | [XRevan86/tr] gustaf: Oh, that's worse than I imagined | Jun 11 22:54 |
| MinceR | i'm guessing the usual shit happened on ##moving-to-libera | Jun 11 22:54 |
| tr-bridge | [bingo/tr] all of you are loonies | Jun 11 22:54 |
| tr-bridge | [bingo/tr] i'll leave it at that | Jun 11 22:54 |
| gustaf | that channel is reserved now | Jun 11 22:54 |
| MinceR | which they did on various freenode channels before | Jun 11 22:54 |
| gustaf | can't be registered | Jun 11 22:54 |
| techrights-bot | #RISCV boffins lay out a plan for bringing the architecture to high-performance computing https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/riscv_hpc/ | Jun 11 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | RISC-V boffins lay out a plan for bringing the architecture to high-performance computing • The Register | Jun 11 22:54 | |
| psymin | I'm grumpy that freenode hijacked a few channels at least | Jun 11 22:54 |
| gustaf | every day brings new drama | Jun 11 22:54 |
| *psymin nods. | Jun 11 22:54 | |
| psymin | give us something to look forward to upon waking up :D | Jun 11 22:55 |
| MinceR | i'm grumpy about that too | Jun 11 22:55 |
| gustaf | I should really start writign this down | Jun 11 22:55 |
| MinceR | but somehow it doesn't make me want to move any channels to a network run by corporate SJWs | Jun 11 22:55 |
| MinceR | especially when there are over 400 other networks i could choose from | Jun 11 22:56 |
| gustaf | the channel hijacking, someone k-lining a /16 block, shifty characters recruited to staff, | Jun 11 22:56 |
| techrights-bot | "Blockchain is essentially a database technology with attributes that, taken alone, are not unique to it, but which collectively produce a technological breakthrough in how digital information is stored, verified and exchanged." Wasn't this hype wave dying last year already? https://searchcio.techtarget.com/Blockchain-for-businesses-The-ultimate-enterprise-guide | Jun 11 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchcio.techtarget.com | Blockchain for Businesses: The Ultimate Enterprise Guide | Jun 11 22:56 | |
| gustaf | the nickserv snagging | Jun 11 22:56 |
| psydroid | bingo, you got it and the prize is eternal ignoration | Jun 11 22:56 |
| gustaf | it's been 3 weeks but feels longer | Jun 11 22:56 |
| MinceR | bingo left long ago | Jun 11 22:56 |
| MinceR | connected just to say those 2 lines and then left | Jun 11 22:57 |
| gustaf | Ariadne: when I meant infra, I was referring to FSF using Libera or hosting their own IRC server | Jun 11 22:57 |
| psydroid | bingo got a hefty bonus for that | Jun 11 22:57 |
| gustaf | I don't use IRCcloud myself, but I know people who do, and Twitter was full of people posting how they had been banned from Freenode | Jun 11 22:58 |
| techrights-bot | "I predict based on observation in the trenches that if p11 remains most of the design will move to pok and boe with less dependency on Austin, would also explain why #ibm pulled out of leasing domain tower 2 for power just prior to covid on direction of Ginny." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies | Jun 11 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 22:58 | |
| gustaf | that's what's called an "unforced error", I believe | Jun 11 22:58 |
| techrights-bot | Racist Watson on sale by #ibm h https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1biByoMH#replies http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Jun 11 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Is there any new information about IBM selling Watson Health? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Jun 11 22:59 | |
| kn\ | wtf ^ | Jun 11 22:59 |
| kn\ | they guys are going into shit far too much | Jun 11 23:00 |
| kn\ | you guys* | Jun 11 23:00 |
| kn\ | btw | Jun 11 23:00 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm doesn't care about people preferring to work from home and #covid19 still being a thing https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bh52BMX#replies | Jun 11 23:00 |
| kn\ | your site fucking sucks. | Jun 11 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | September 7th 2021 - IBM workers are returning to the office - post regarding IBM layoffs | Jun 11 23:00 | |
| gustaf | rude | Jun 11 23:00 |
| kn\ | terrible design | Jun 11 23:01 |
| MinceR | so basically you hate freenode and you hate techrights, so you hang around on freenode/#techrights | Jun 11 23:01 |
| MinceR | yes, that makes a lot of sense | Jun 11 23:01 |
| gustaf | but the design *is* a bit dated | Jun 11 23:01 |
| MinceR | "dated" design is good | Jun 11 23:01 |
| kn\ | at 1999 design is good? | Jun 11 23:01 |
| kn\ | huh | Jun 11 23:01 |
| gustaf | I personally enjoy the mid-2000s esthetic | Jun 11 23:01 |
| kn\ | a* | Jun 11 23:01 |
| psydroid | IBM/Red Hat employees shilling here now? | Jun 11 23:01 |
| psydroid | how sad and pathetic is that? | Jun 11 23:01 |
| MinceR | it means you don't have to run a Fugaku just to read some text, see some images and follow some links | Jun 11 23:01 |
| techrights-bot | "Exerting too much control is terrible for your team’s morale. Here’s how building trust can resolve that." https://builtin.com/people-management/micromanagement | Jun 11 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-builtin.com | How To Avoid Micromanagement | Built In | Jun 11 23:01 | |
| gustaf | what is it with some people and te belief that people who disagree with them must be paid shills? | Jun 11 23:02 |
| psydroid | it's content that people come for | Jun 11 23:02 |
| gustaf | deep cut | Jun 11 23:03 |
| techrights-bot | #India And Tech Companies Clash Over #Censorship , #Privacy And 'Digital Colonialism' https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/npr/2021/06/10/1004387255/india-and-tech-companies-clash-over-censorship-privacy-and-digital-colonialism/ #NPR itself takes bribes from Digital Colonists to push their agenda, lies, and propaganda | Jun 11 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.houstonpublicmedia.org | India And Tech Companies Clash Over Censorship, Privacy And 'Digital Colonialism' | NPR & Houston Public Media | Jun 11 23:03 | |
| gustaf | the fugaku reference | Jun 11 23:03 |
| techrights-bot | More #surveillance https://skift.com/2021/06/11/zytlyn-raises-2-5-million-for-data-based-prediction-travel-startup-funding-this-week/ | Jun 11 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zytlyn Raises $2.5 Million for Data-Based Prediction: Travel Startup Funding This Week – Skift | Jun 11 23:04 | |
| gustaf | the site atually works in w3m | Jun 11 23:05 |
| MinceR | see, that's "dated" | Jun 11 23:05 |
| gustaf | arguably looks a bit better ;) | Jun 11 23:05 |
| MinceR | the "modern" thing to do is to pretend that you can't render text, pictures or make links work without javascript loaded from 9001 domains | Jun 11 23:05 |
| psydroid | it works in Gemini clients too | Jun 11 23:06 |
| psydroid | which I am happy about | Jun 11 23:06 |
| techrights-bot | #China arrests over 1000 for using #cryptocurrency to help launder proceeds of phone scams https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/china_crypto_crackdown_continues/ | Jun 11 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China arrests over 1000 for using cryptocurrency to help launder proceeds of phone scams • The Register | Jun 11 23:06 | |
| gustaf | I've been using semantic markup forever | Jun 11 23:07 |
| gustaf | and styling it w/ CSS | Jun 11 23:07 |
| techrights-bot | Well, they need to prosecute #Clearview and people who are responsible for deploying such stuff https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/canadas_privacy_watchdog_said_police/ | Jun 11 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Mounties messed up by using Clearview AI, says Canadian Privacy Commissioner • The Register | Jun 11 23:07 | |
| gustaf | even tried hoppng on the XHTML train! | Jun 11 23:07 |
| gustaf | that was a mistake | Jun 11 23:08 |
| gustaf | tooling wsan't there | Jun 11 23:08 |
| MinceR | what a train wreck that was | Jun 11 23:08 |
| gustaf | yeah | Jun 11 23:08 |
| gustaf | standards overreach | Jun 11 23:08 |
| MinceR | i liked the idea but not how they implemented it | Jun 11 23:09 |
| kn\ | CrystalMath: you smell like shit | Jun 11 23:09 |
| techrights-bot | Google wants to look like it cares about your #privacy with Android 12 Beta 2, but note that's not how #Google works • The Register ⚓ https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/10/google_android_12_beta_2/ ䷉ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google wants to look like it cares about your privacy with Android 12 Beta 2, but note that's not how Google works • The Register | Jun 11 23:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 23:09 | |
| CrystalMath | kn\: why the hostility? what's this about? | Jun 11 23:09 |
| gustaf | ok I'm off | Jun 11 23:09 |
| AdmFubar | https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/amazon_insider_trading/ | Jun 11 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amazon exec's husband jailed for two years for insider trading. Yes, with Amazon stock • The Register | Jun 11 23:09 | |
| kn\ | CrystalMath: you smell like shit | Jun 11 23:09 |
| kn\ | :) | Jun 11 23:09 |
| kn\ | idk | Jun 11 23:09 |
| kn\ | m bored | Jun 11 23:10 |
| kn\ | im bored | Jun 11 23:10 |
| MinceR | maybe find something productive to do | Jun 11 23:10 |
| kn\ | you seem like a person to troll considering you want America to die | Jun 11 23:10 |
| MinceR | you have a computer with an Internet connection | Jun 11 23:10 |
| CrystalMath | kn\: i don't want it to die... | Jun 11 23:10 |
| CrystalMath | i just want it to stop being the worldwide police | Jun 11 23:10 |
| kn\ | and you want the human race to die | Jun 11 23:10 |
| *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Jun 11 23:10 | |
| kn\ | lol | Jun 11 23:10 |
| CrystalMath | that is, i want america to leave other countries alone | Jun 11 23:10 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210605/18403946939/doj-says-time-to-add-ransomware-attacks-to-ever-expanding-war-terror.shtml | Jun 11 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DOJ Says It's Time To Add Ransomware Attacks To The Ever Expanding 'War On Terror' | Techdirt | Jun 11 23:11 | |
| kn\ | you want King Putin to be able to freely invade countries | Jun 11 23:11 |
| psydroid | ok, enough is enough | Jun 11 23:12 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.alternet.org/2021/06/mcdonalds-cyber/ | Jun 11 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New cyberattack on McDonald's highlights a rapidly growing threat - Alternet.org | Jun 11 23:13 | |
| kn\ | Mcdonalds deserves it. | Jun 11 23:13 |
| kn\ | Bad company | Jun 11 23:13 |
| kn\ | they pay their employees shitty | Jun 11 23:13 |
| kn\ | and | Jun 11 23:13 |
| kn\ | they treat their employees like shit | Jun 11 23:14 |
| kn\ | worse job | Jun 11 23:14 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: thanks, good finds | Jun 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | our site works with almost every browser from the past 20 years, inc. minimalist browsers | Jun 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | same goes for FSF and GNU Web sites | Jun 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | the invisible benefits | Jun 11 23:17 |
| techrights-bot | "Whether it's Linus flipping off the camera or Arch users letting you know they think they're better than you, we have a Linux meme for every walk of life and every style. Come, let's laugh at silly internet pictures of a Linux nature." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m89Fg7BtlY | Jun 11 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"BTW, I use Arch" is my vibe check. - YouTube | Jun 11 23:18 | |
| CrystalMath | kn\: tbh america would be a lot better if the other side won during the whiskey rebellion | Jun 11 23:18 |
| techrights-bot | Another sci-fi adventure joins #ScummVM https://www.scummvm.org/news/20210611/ | Jun 11 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scummvm.org | ScummVM :: Home | Jun 11 23:19 | |
| CrystalMath | less taxes, more individual freedom | Jun 11 23:19 |
| CrystalMath | i know america pretends to stand for that even now but if things were different it wouldn't just be pretending | Jun 11 23:19 |
| techrights-bot | Guilty Gear: Strive Works Great With Proton https://boilingsteam.com/guilty-gear-strive-works-great-with-proton/ #games #gnu #linux | Jun 11 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Guilty Gear: Strive Works Great With Proton - Boiling Steam | Jun 11 23:19 | |
| MinceR | they would have just kept trying | Jun 11 23:20 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▃▅▅▃▄▃▄▇▆▅▄▁▂▃▂▄▂▁▆▇▄▄▅▅▆▃▂▆▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▃▂▃▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 19.38▕ swarm size (avg): 243.35 ⟲ | Jun 11 23:20 |
| MinceR | states are dependent on being able to take value away from people under their power | Jun 11 23:20 |
| techrights-bot | #fsf has made a mistake. It should have taken this opportunity to self-host IRC. https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-gnu-move-official-irc-channels-to-libera-chat-network missed opporunity, @fsf | Jun 11 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF and GNU move official IRC channels to Libera.Chat network — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Jun 11 23:21 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.darkreading.com/mobile/many-mobile-apps-intentionally-using-insecure-connections-for-sending-data/d/d-id/1341276 | Jun 11 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Many Mobile Apps Intentionally Using Insecure ... | Jun 11 23:22 | |
| techrights-bot | #LWN on #systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152193#comment-29936 we can all agree now that it's not an init system. Some would argue that it's #redhat #ibm vendor lock-in ploy. | Jun 11 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 23:24 | |
| MinceR | it's an "init system" whenever it's comfortable for it to be one to the person arguing on favor of it :> | Jun 11 23:24 |
| techrights-bot | Rescuing a GNU/Linux system from near disaster | Network World ⚓ https://www.networkworld.com/article/3621772/rescuing-a-linux-system-from-near-disaster.html ䷉ #networkworld #gnu #linux | Jun 11 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Rescuing a Linux system from near disaster | Network World | Jun 11 23:25 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Skyve : Cross-platform #freesw low-code platform https://medevel.com/skyve/ "Skyve is released under LGPL-2.1License." | Jun 11 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Skyve: Cross-platform open-source low-code platform | Jun 11 23:26 | |
| techrights-bot | #MySQL 101: Installation, care, and feeding on #Ubuntu https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/mysql-101-installation-care-and-feeding-on-ubuntu/ | Jun 11 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | MySQL 101: Installation, care, and feeding on Ubuntu | Ars Technica | Jun 11 23:28 | |
| techrights-bot | Converting Twisted’s inlineCallbacks to async ⚓ https://patrick.cloke.us/posts/2021/06/11/converting-twisteds-inlinecallbacks-to-async/ | Jun 11 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patrick.cloke.us | Converting Twisted’s inlineCallbacks to async | Jun 11 23:29 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/756293.jpg | Jun 11 23:31 |
| techrights-bot | "Mobile" things were never compatible with #security and #privacy anyway... by their very nature. https://www.darkreading.com/mobile/many-mobile-apps-intentionally-using-insecure-connections-for-sending-data/d/d-id/1341276 | Jun 11 23:31 |
| techrights-bot | Intel Alder Lake Thunderbolt/USB4 Support For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Alder-Lake-Thunderbolt-Linux ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/11/#latest | Jun 11 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Alder Lake Thunderbolt/USB4 Support For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix | Jun 11 23:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Jun 11 23:32 | |
| techrights-bot | "Don’t forget to take the Annual Fedora Survey and claim your badge!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-23/ #ibm distributing badges to volunteers instead of giving them a salary. Virtual badges, nothing that's even physical... | Jun 11 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-23 – Fedora Community Blog | Jun 11 23:35 | |
| techrights-bot | "Today, Fre(i)e Software GmbH has been contracted for packaging Kurento Media Server for Debian. This packaging project will be funded by GUUG e.V. (the German Unix User Group e.V.). A big thanks to the people from GUUG e.V. for making this packaging project possible." https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/133 | Jun 11 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sunweavers.net | New Debian Packaging Team: BBB Packaging Team (and Kurento Media Server goes Debian) | sunweaver's NET | Jun 11 23:36 | |
| *kn\ (~sinister@darkness.ge) has left #techrights ("WeeChat 3.0") | Jun 11 23:36 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | Okay, so they fixed two problems with my car and now the parking brake shoe on the rear right is banging around on right turns. So I'm going back tomorrow to just have the parking brake show itself removed. The parking brake didn't work anyway, so I had the cable ziptied off to the side. | Jun 11 23:43 |
| BaronVladimirHar | They said they wouldn't charge me anything to take care of that. I've been a repeat customer because nothing they've ever done has turned out wrong. | Jun 11 23:43 |
| BaronVladimirHar | *shoe | Jun 11 23:43 |
| BaronVladimirHar | This is just poor design by GM. | Jun 11 23:44 |
| BaronVladimirHar | https://www.npr.org/2021/06/11/1005567149/3-experts-have-resigned-from-an-fda-committee-over-alzheimers-drug-approval | Jun 11 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | 3 Experts Quit An FDA Panel Over Alzheimer's Drug Approval : NPR | Jun 11 23:46 | |
| techrights-bot | #Kernel: Thunderbolt/USB4 and #Intel • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152205 #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Thunderbolt/USB4 and Intel | Tux Machines | Jun 11 23:46 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | schestowitz: The FDA science advisors are resigning because the FDA is approving expensive drugs that don't seem to work. | Jun 11 23:46 |
| techrights-bot | #OpenHardware : #RISCV and #RaspberryPi 4 Model B • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152204 #GNU #Linux | Jun 11 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: RISC-V and Raspberry Pi 4 Model B | Tux Machines | Jun 11 23:47 | |
| techrights-bot | #Games : #SurvivingMars , ScummVM, Guilty Gear: Strive • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152203 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Surviving Mars, ScummVM, Guilty Gear: Strive | Tux Machines | Jun 11 23:47 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152202 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Jun 11 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 23:47 | |
| BaronVladimirHar | There's a good chance that the amyloid plaque that appears in brains of Alzheimer's patients is not the cause of the disease itself, and therefore removing the plaque won't have any noticeable impact on the disease. | Jun 11 23:47 |
| BaronVladimirHar | Also, the CDC today said that people who get the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine are coming down with heart inflammation. | Jun 11 23:48 |
| techrights-bot | Fails to mention an obvious conflict of interest. The person (and company) that wrote this blog post is mostly sponsored by Google, so there is no expectation of objectivity; cannot criticise who pays the salary. https://lwn.net/Articles/859246/rss | Jun 11 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Privacy analysis of FLoC (Mozilla blog) [LWN.net] | Jun 11 23:50 | |
| techrights-bot | #Mozilla #surveillance https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/06/11/danger-zone-handling-sensitive-data-in-glean/ outsource to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware prison in NSA PRISM | Jun 11 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | ⚠️Danger zone⚠️: handling sensitive data in Glean – Data@Mozilla | Jun 11 23:51 | |
| techrights-bot | #Mozilla won't protect your privacy; it will protect its revenue sources, which view #privacy as a business obstacle. | Jun 11 23:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: XRevan86: new https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7e77y/the-dollar149-smartphone-that-could-bring-the-linux-mobile-ecosystem-to-life | Jun 11 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | The $149 Smartphone That Could Bring The Linux Mobile Ecosystem to Life | Jun 11 23:53 | |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] i do think that the pinephone and postmarketOS are our best shot at liberating the mobile ecosystem | Jun 11 23:55 |
| techrights-bot | #centos being assassinated by #ibm didn't make #rhel clones go away. The IBM management team is worse than clueless. https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/rocky-linux-8-4-rc1-available-now/ | Jun 11 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | Rocky Linux 8.4 RC1 Available Now | Jun 11 23:56 | |
| tr-bridge | [Ariadne/tr] i am trying to nudge alpine into giving postmarketOS more support, both in terms of $ and resources | Jun 11 23:56 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 23:57 |
| techrights-bot | " #Twitter is swelling with rumors of a master plan coming from the Ryan Cohen-led #GameStop (NYSE:GME) board. Holders and retail trading conspiracy theorists are piecing together a thought-provoking puzzle." https://investorplace.com/2021/06/gme-stock-what-are-the-gamestop-gme-crypto-dividend-rumors/ | Jun 11 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GME Stock: What Are the GameStop (GME) Crypto Dividend Rumors? | InvestorPlace | Jun 11 23:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Huawei's #HarmonyOS already has 134,000 apps, over 4 million developers have signed on https://www.gsmarena.com/huaweis_harmonyos_already_has_134000_apps_over_4_million_developers_have_signed_on-news-49552.php | Jun 11 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Huawei's HarmonyOS already has 134,000 apps, over 4 million developers have signed on - GSMArena.com news | Jun 11 23:58 | |
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