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*XRevan86 puts "189" into a search engine: "During the traffic stop, troopers seized a firearm, 189 ecstasy pills and a gram of marijuan" as a first result.Aug 11 00:05
XRevan86Not 228 but I'll take it.Aug 11 00:05
MinceR:)Aug 11 00:05
MinceR419Aug 11 00:05
XRevan86MinceR: "JucheNet" – Juche Town?Aug 11 00:06
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 11 00:06
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XRevan86MinceR: What's 419?Aug 11 00:07
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scamAug 11 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Advance-fee scam - WikipediaAug 11 00:07
XRevan86"Max: 228-32" – immortalised like that anyway (:Aug 11 00:08
schestowitzAriadne: http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/dui-public-office/ #epo #patent #corruption #nepotism #europeAug 11 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office | TechrightsAug 11 00:18
schestowitzlots more to comeAug 11 00:18
schestowitzI need to make sure that when I fly the plane does not go near Albania though, in case they have a Lukashenko of their ownAug 11 00:19
schestowitzXRevan86: tomorrow freenode might be 8k+Aug 11 00:19
schestowitzin relative terms they lose like 3% a dayAug 11 00:19
schestowitzI dare not change nickname nowAug 11 00:20
schestowitzthat's "too much" for IRCAug 11 00:20
DaemonFCSome people are lying and saying they need a first dose of the COVID vaccine and it's actually a third, they're doing a "booster".Aug 11 00:22
DaemonFCEven though we don't know 100% for sure what two doses does yet.Aug 11 00:22
schestowitzhas anyone here used elementaryOS?Aug 11 00:32
schestowitzDaemonFC: BBC says that "adults" vax rate is at 70% now, but if they count overall population it's less than 60%Aug 11 00:33
schestowitzand our PM lets it go loose, spreading to millionsAug 11 00:33
schestowitzincluding kidsAug 11 00:33
schestowitzelementaryOS has a new releaseAug 11 00:33
schestowitzlots o blog and vlog coverageAug 11 00:34
schestowitzseems decent, albeit hyped upAug 11 00:34
schestowitzChina's distro is more interesting to me, kylin for exampleAug 11 00:34
XRevan86schestowitz: So many scary things :).Aug 11 00:36
MinceRi could determine that elementaryOS is garbage without trying it, so noAug 11 00:38
schestowitz-TRi think it is a rich spoiled boy distroAug 11 00:42
MinceRdid you just assume their gender?Aug 11 00:43
schestowitz-TRbut if he uses his dad's wealth to make a distro and they make themes, tools etc. then all the betterAug 11 00:43
schestowitz-TRMinceR: no, the person behind itAug 11 00:43
schestowitz-TRfigosdev told meAug 11 00:43
MinceR:)Aug 11 00:44
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvV2s4-cwooAug 11 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Did Comcast Fix My Internet? Let's Go Live To Find Out! - YouTubeAug 11 00:44
schestowitzweird Aug 11 00:44
schestowitzthe quality of youtube videos goes downAug 11 00:45
schestowitzit becomes #shortsAug 11 00:45
schestowitza bunch of tiktok wannabesAug 11 00:45
schestowitzwith lousy "content" looking to go "viral'Aug 11 00:45
schestowitzno tripods, just some "phone" and "selfies" modeAug 11 00:45
schestowitzhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/08/10/more-than-600-million-stolen-in-ethereum-and-other-cryptocurrencies-marking-one-of-cryptos-biggest-hacks-ever/?sh=413075dd7f62Aug 11 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | More Than $600 Million Stolen In Ethereum And Other Cryptocurrencies—Marking One Of Crypto’s Biggest Hacks EverAug 11 00:47
schestowitz"sssshhhhhiiiit"-leeAug 11 00:48
MinceR"hack"Aug 11 00:48
MinceRwhere's the playful cleverness in this?Aug 11 00:48
schestowitzrhymes with cuckAug 11 00:49
schestowitzor f*Aug 11 00:49
techrights-newsStable Vs Rolling: Which #Linux Release Is Better? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=212yJEH8-iA ䷉ #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Stable Vs Rolling: Which Linux Release Is Better? - InvidiousAug 11 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsAug 11 00:53
techrights-newsAn EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/dui-public-office/ #epo #patent #corruption #nepotism #europeAug 11 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office | TechrightsAug 11 00:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yeah, just checked our bank's interest rates.Aug 11 00:59
DaemonFCThe "relationship rate" is 0.03% APY. LOLAug 11 00:59
DaemonFCI'm moving most of our money to a high interest online savings account.Aug 11 00:59
DaemonFCI can move it back and forth as needed, so there's really no risk, and then I can earn 17 times as much interest.Aug 11 01:00
techrights-news#elementaryOS 6 ODIN Released. This is What’s New. • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154364 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 ODIN Released. This is What's New. | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:01
techrights-newsSix more items covering #elementaryOS release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30502 #gnu #linuxAug 11 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:01
techrights-newsOpen-frame touch panel offers Android and Ubuntu options • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154365 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-frame touch panel offers Android and Ubuntu options | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:03
techrights-news#Ubuntu -based #elementaryOS 6 'Odin' Linux distribution is now available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30501Aug 11 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:03
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: they got tired of giving incentive to saveAug 11 01:03
schestowitz-TRthey just hide inflation and interest rares for lenders Aug 11 01:04
schestowitz-TRnot savesAug 11 01:04
schestowitz-TR*saversAug 11 01:04
schestowitz-TR"COZ CORONA"Aug 11 01:04
DaemonFCThere's plenty of incentive to save, in treasury bonds.Aug 11 01:04
DaemonFCThey kind of hid I-Bonds but you can still buy them.Aug 11 01:04
schestowitz-TR a/hide/hike/Aug 11 01:04
schestowitz-TRanyway, this is off topicAug 11 01:04
DaemonFCThey like inflation because it's a way to steal from people without them realizing that their money is worthless now.Aug 11 01:05
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154366 #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:05
DaemonFCThey don't need to increase taxes. Just make the money worth 6-7% less every year than it was last year.Aug 11 01:05
techrights-newsNew videos about #elementaryOS 6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30503 #gnu #linuxAug 11 01:05
DaemonFCInstant flat tax.Aug 11 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:05
techrights-news#Firefox 92 Enters Public Beta Testing with AVIF Support Enabled by Default (Again) • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154367 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 92 Enters Public Beta Testing with AVIF Support Enabled by Default (Again) | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:06
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▁▅▅▃▄▃▂▃▅▅▂▇▃▄▃▄▅▂▃▄▅▆▄▅▂▃▄▆▁▁▁▂▄▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 18.65 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▃▁▁▂▁▂▁▁█▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 50.15▕ swarm size (avg): 275.68  ⟲Aug 11 01:07
DaemonFC116 heat index today.Aug 11 01:12
DaemonFCMy car's thermometer for the outside temperature was saying 56 degrees.Aug 11 01:12
DaemonFCI laughed. "Celsius, maybe.".Aug 11 01:13
schestowitz-TR15c hereAug 11 01:13
schestowitz-TRperfectAug 11 01:13
DaemonFCIt's fine in here thanks to the air conditioner.Aug 11 01:13
schestowitz-TRI'm a lot more productive in these conditionsAug 11 01:13
DaemonFCDon't go outside.Aug 11 01:13
schestowitz-TRoverheating demotivatesAug 11 01:14
DaemonFCI'm sure it will help the Mostly Peaceful Tuesday in Chicago right along.Aug 11 01:14
MinceRDO NOT LOOK AT THE MOONAug 11 01:18
techrights-newsGrsync – A Simple Graphical Frontend For Rsync • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154368 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Grsync – A Simple Graphical Frontend For Rsync | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:19
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154369 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:20
techrights-news#ZorinOS 16 Pro • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154370 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Pro | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:23
techrights-news#Radeon Software for Linux 21.30 Brings Support For Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS, RX 6600 XT - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-Software-Linux-21.30 ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon Software for Linux 21.30 Brings Support For Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS, RX 6600 XT - PhoronixAug 11 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsAug 11 01:26
techrights-news#RADV Lands Fast Clear Improvements, Helping RDNA With VKD3D-Proton - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-Fast-Clear-Improvements ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RADV Lands Fast Clear Improvements, Helping RDNA With VKD3D-Proton - PhoronixAug 11 01:27
techrights-news#NVIDIA 470.63.01 is out for Linux adding VK_KHR_wayland_surface support | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/nvidia-4706301-is-out-for-linux-adding-vk-khr-wayland-surface-support ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 470.63.01 is out for Linux adding VK_KHR_wayland_surface support | GamingOnLinuxAug 11 01:28
techrights-news#SDL version 2.0.16 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154371 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithubAug 11 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SDL version 2.0.16 | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:29
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techrights-news10 Best Retro Games for #Android Device | Look Back to the Old Days https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-retro-games-for-android/Aug 11 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 10 Best Retro Games for Android Device | Look Back to the Old DaysAug 11 01:35
techrights-news#NVIDIA and #AMD Drivers and Linux Graphics • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154372 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA and AMD Drivers and Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:36
techrights-newsDelete #micrsoft and delete #windows https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/cyber-security/360521/new-malware-plants-backdoor-on-microsoft-web-server-softwareAug 11 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | New malware plants backdoor on Microsoft web server software | IT PROAug 11 01:39
techrights-news"This is my story about how I found the Turris Omnia Linux router and how this lead to working together with the #Turris guys." https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/turris_and_syslog-ng/Aug 11 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Turris, syslog-ng and me | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' CzanikAug 11 01:40
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techrights-newsCompany Reveals All-Russian PCs Using an Arm SoC and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154342#comment-30505Aug 11 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux computers launched with Baikal-M processor | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:45
techrights-newsHacks.Mozilla.Org: Hopping on Firefox 91 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154345#comment-30506Aug 11 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 91 Arrives as the New ESR Series, Brings Back Simplified Printing | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:48
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC:  you can now run    /history #techrights 1hAug 11 01:49
schestowitz-TRto see what you missedAug 11 01:49
schestowitz-TRthe server side supports that nowAug 11 01:49
XRevan86schestowitz: DaemonFC joined without Matrix when he learnt what ergoirc can do.Aug 11 01:49
schestowitz-TRyeahAug 11 01:49
XRevan86it gives him backlog automaticallyAug 11 01:49
techrights-news#GameMaker Studio 2 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154373 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GameMaker Studio 2 | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:50
DaemonFCNiceAug 11 01:52
techrights-newsUnofficial Razer Tweak Tool ‘Polychromatic’ Offers a New Design & Supports All Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154331#comment-30507Aug 11 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, Polychromatic 0.7, and Configuring Your Gaming Mouse Under Linux With Piper | Tux MachinesAug 11 01:53
techrights-news"There can be little doubt that Safet Emruli’s appointment as head of the SOIP and subsequent reappointment in 2018 were significantly influenced by party political considerations.” #europe #epo #corruption #patents #soip http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/dui-public-office/Aug 11 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office | TechrightsAug 11 01:55
techrights-newsThis targets #proprietarysoftware , not "Linux" https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blackmatter-group-debuts-linux-targeting-ransomware-a-17244 proprietary software that violated #gpl in #linux http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/Aug 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bankinfosecurity.com | BlackMatter Group Debuts Linux-Targeting RansomwareAug 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | TechrightsAug 11 01:58
techrights-newsThis is not a "Linux" issue but a weak password issue; stop blaming #Linux for things it has nothing to do with, like brute-force password guessing https://www.techradar.com/news/synology-nas-devices-are-being-hacked-to-target-linux-systemsAug 11 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Synology NAS devices are being hacked to target Linux systems | TechRadarAug 11 02:01
techrights-news#linux is a #kernel so there is no "Linux cut command". https://www.networkworld.com/article/3628236/using-the-linux-cut-command-to-grab-portions-of-lines-from-files.html It's a #GNU program http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/Aug 11 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Using the Linux cut command to grab portions of lines from files | Network WorldAug 11 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) | TechrightsAug 11 02:03
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▅▅▅▂▅▆▄▄▆▂▅▅▅▅▆▆▄▂▄▂▄▅▅▄▄▆▄▄▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.85 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.58▕ swarm size (avg): 275.62  ⟲Aug 11 02:07
techrights-news#Security and Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Against Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154374 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Against Linux | Tux MachinesAug 11 02:13
techrights-news"Linux Studio is a development environment created particularly for native host development" https://www.electropages.com/2021/08/development-environment-available-linux-developersAug 11 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electropages.com | Development environment available to Linux developersAug 11 02:15
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techrights-news"The #RouterOS scripting language is … unique. It can be difficult to develop and debug your scripts, though. The script interpreter just quits when it encounters a syntax error without returning any error messages." https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/review-mikrotik-rb750gr3.htmlAug 11 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Review of MikroTik hEX (3rd rev.) as a home routerAug 11 02:17
techrights-news#LinuxMint vs #Ubuntu : 15 Facts To Know Before Choosing The Best One • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154375 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint vs Ubuntu: 15 Facts To Know Before Choosing The Best One | Tux MachinesAug 11 02:20
DaemonFCLenovo put in a 45 watt hour battery in this laptop for some reason.Aug 11 02:21
DaemonFCHad they put in a 66 watt hour battery like my last one had, this thing probably could have operated for 11-12 hours. Apparently, they don't want to be able to market it that bad.Aug 11 02:21
DaemonFCThe CPU package improved power management a lot since Skylake, so they just put in a smaller battery.Aug 11 02:22
MinceRit would also have been heavierAug 11 02:22
DaemonFCSo there's no runtime improvement at all.Aug 11 02:22
techrights-newsWhy outsource to #Microsoft 's #proprietarysoftware #monopoly h It is not free, it is a trap. https://major.io/2021/08/06/build-fedora-aws-images-in-github-actions-with-image-builder/ #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubAug 11 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-major.io | Build Fedora AWS images in GitHub Actions with Image Builder | Major Hayden's Blog 🤠Aug 11 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - TechrightsAug 11 02:23
techrights-news#Linux 4.4.280 and Linux #Graphics • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154376Aug 11 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4.280 and Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesAug 11 02:24
techrights-news#Fedora Linux 36 development schedule • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154377 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 development schedule | Tux MachinesAug 11 02:27
techrights-newsHolo Clock is a novel 3D-printed clock that tells time using a pair of rings | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/10/holo-clock-is-a-novel-3d-printed-clock-that-tells-time-using-a-pair-of-rings/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Holo Clock is a novel 3D-printed clock that tells time using a pair of rings | Arduino BlogAug 11 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsAug 11 02:27
techrights-news#KDEGear ⚙️ 21.08: An ad for Dolphin, KDE’s file explorer and manager - Kockatoo Tube ⚓ https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/59a31698-2136-4af6-9b81-2c3fa2f329ccAug 11 02:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | KDE Gear ⚙️ 21.08: An ad for Dolphin, KDE's file explorer and manager - Kockatoo TubeAug 11 02:29
techrights-news" #GDB MI allows applications to connect to GDB without actually running it from the terminal, this is how frontends talks to GDB. Most of the time this is how users actually use GDB for debugging." #gnu #debugger #freesw #programming https://da-viper.github.io/post/week9kdesoc/ #deletegithub #gsocAug 11 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-da-viper.github.io | GSOC Printers: GDB Machine Interface - Ebuka's BlogAug 11 02:31
schestowitz* Current global users: 9133  Max: 22832Aug 11 02:32
schestowitz60 fewer than a few hours agoAug 11 02:33
techrights-news"looks like #freenode is looking to outdo #ircnet when it comes to netsplits" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100821.html#tAug%2010%2016:12:16 #ircAug 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 10, 2021Aug 11 02:34
techrights-newsNew Videos: KDE Gear, Stable Vs Rolling, and pearOS • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154378 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Videos: KDE Gear, Stable Vs Rolling, and pearOS | Tux MachinesAug 11 02:35
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154379 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 02:37
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techrights-news#KDAB propping up #microsoft #proprietarySoftware that encourages people to violate the #gpl :/ https://www.kdab.com/improving-cpp-dev-in-vs-code/Aug 11 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improving C++ Development in Visual Studio Code - KDABAug 11 02:38
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techrights-news#JavaScript Tops List of Most Commonly Used #Programming Languages https://www.fosslife.org/javascript-tops-list-most-commonly-used-programming-languagesAug 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | JavaScript Tops List of Most Commonly Used Programming LanguagesAug 11 02:39
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techrights-news#programming or "automation"? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/expand-your-possibilities-automationAug 11 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Expand your possibilities with automationAug 11 02:40
techrights-news"There is a new application available for Sparkers: Gammy" https://sparkylinux.org/gammy/Aug 11 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Gammy – SparkyLinuxAug 11 02:41
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AdmFubarhttps://www.alternet.org/2021/08/facebook-lies/Aug 11 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The real reason Facebook is enabling right-wing lies to flourish - Alternet.orgAug 11 02:45
schestowitz-TRlet me guess...Aug 11 02:48
schestowitz-TRuser "engagement"Aug 11 02:48
schestowitz-TRselling ads by 'traumatiisng' peopleAug 11 02:49
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schestowitzfrom freenodeAug 11 02:50
AdmFubardon't guess read the articleAug 11 02:51
schestowitztoo many popupsAug 11 02:52
schestowitzit used to be a good siteAug 11 02:52
schestowitzand I read it over rssAug 11 02:52
schestowitzthen it got hijacked by partisan hacksAug 11 02:52
schestowitzit was no longer alternative mediaAug 11 02:53
AdmFubarthat is what ublock origin is forAug 11 02:53
schestowitz-TRif your browser supports thoseAug 11 02:54
techrights-news"Kubernetes – aka K8s – has grown from a simple container orchestration tool originally designed for internal use at Google to a vibrant open source community and the preferred platform for deploying, monitoring, and managing apps and services across clouds." https://appdevelopermagazine.com/kubernetes-for-the-enterprise-as-canonical-sees-it/Aug 11 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appdevelopermagazine.com | Kubernetes for the enterprise as Canonical sees it | App Developer MagazineAug 11 02:55
techrights-newsSurveillance in the name of 'security' is a bad compromise https://prezu.ca/post/2021-07-30-totp-1/Aug 11 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-prezu.ca | How does Google Authenticator work? (Part 1)Aug 11 02:57
AdmFubaryou can pull the blocker lists and add them to your hosts file..Aug 11 02:57
CrystalMathXRevan86: ChanServ changed its ident to services.joseon.krAug 11 02:58
CrystalMathit seems that freenode may be getting ready for a renaming after allAug 11 02:58
schestowitz-TRthis is crazyAug 11 02:58
schestowitz-TRfreenode will dieAug 11 02:58
schestowitz-TRfor the ego of a stoned cretinAug 11 02:58
XRevan86CrystalMath: I'm chuckling, so far the freenode drama has been hugely entertaining.Aug 11 02:59
XRevan86and somehow there is more stuff to comeAug 11 02:59
schestowitz-TRroot is user #0Aug 11 02:59
schestowitz-TRso technically freenode might end up with zero usersAug 11 03:00
CrystalMathactually in C if index 0 in an array is valid then the array has 1 memberAug 11 03:00
schestowitz-TRyes, I knowAug 11 03:00
schestowitz-TRI was totally jokingAug 11 03:00
schestowitz-TRbut at this stage freenode does not need 22 serversAug 11 03:01
schestowitz-TRthey could consilidate in 2Aug 11 03:01
schestowitz-TRthey could consolidate in 2Aug 11 03:01
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techrights-newsEileen McDermott at #watchtroll gives attention to cranks who decide to sue a former official, Michelle Lee, for doing the right things about #patents in #uspto http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WatchtrollAug 11 03:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - TechrightsAug 11 03:03
XRevan86CrystalMath: I'm genuinely curious about one thing…Aug 11 03:03
MinceRonly one?Aug 11 03:04
XRevan86CrystalMath: so the Joseon branding… to whom is it going to appeal?Aug 11 03:04
MinceRandrew leeAug 11 03:05
schestowitz-TRlenders maybeAug 11 03:05
CrystalMathXRevan86: people who enjoy korean doramas?Aug 11 03:05
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XRevan86CrystalMath: Is that a big intersection with IRC users?Aug 11 03:05
CrystalMathit could become one!Aug 11 03:05
schestowitz-TRlolAug 11 03:05
schestowitz-TRno wayAug 11 03:05
XRevan86MinceR: But #0 is already inAug 11 03:06
CrystalMathjust tell them there's a real prince you can talk to there with this appAug 11 03:06
schestowitz-TRin 30 years (almost) in IRC I NEVER met a korean hereAug 11 03:06
schestowitz-TRin any networkAug 11 03:06
CrystalMathschestowitz-TR: but you met Andrew Lee on freenodeAug 11 03:06
CrystalMath#techrightsAug 11 03:06
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: forget about princesAug 11 03:06
schestowitz-TRpeople are "kings" of their homesAug 11 03:06
schestowitz-TRand toilets are their thronesAug 11 03:07
XRevan86CrystalMath: Well, he's Korean in a very loose sense, no?Aug 11 03:07
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: he's a crank, not a princeAug 11 03:07
CrystalMathXRevan86: he is ethnically koreanAug 11 03:07
CrystalMathand the crown prince of JoseonAug 11 03:07
XRevan86CrystalMath: culturally UsonianAug 11 03:07
CrystalMaththere was a ceremonyAug 11 03:07
schestowitz-TRby?Aug 11 03:07
CrystalMathi mean... yes, a lot of the royal family had to escape when japan invadedAug 11 03:07
schestowitz-TRGov of Korea?Aug 11 03:07
CrystalMathschestowitz-TR: of course not, the royal familyAug 11 03:08
XRevan86CrystalMath: Right, and Joseon is ruling an IRC networkAug 11 03:08
MinceRthey had the radical freedom to stayAug 11 03:08
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: which has not existed is like 100+ yearsAug 11 03:08
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▄▅▅▅▆▇▅▃▃▄▅▄▆▁▅▅▆▅▆▄▂▄▄▅▄▂▄▄▁▂▇▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 21.58 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▁█▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂█▁▂█▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 52.81▕ swarm size (avg): 275.57  ⟲Aug 11 03:08
schestowitz-TRpeople he never even metAug 11 03:08
schestowitz-TRanyway...Aug 11 03:08
schestowitz-TRI have real issues to attend toAug 11 03:08
schestowitz-TRnot xanadu fantasylandAug 11 03:08
XRevan86CrystalMath: Maybe I'm assuming, I don't really know if he knows Korean for instance.Aug 11 03:09
MinceRwell, north korea apparently does officially refer to itself as "Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk", where choson is supposed to be the same as joseonAug 11 03:09
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CrystalMathschestowitz-TR: i'm pretty sure they didn't meet on the day they just decided to give him the throneAug 11 03:09
CrystalMathMinceR: yes but that's not the same country, technicallyAug 11 03:09
CrystalMathjust like technically serbia isn't yugoslaviaAug 11 03:09
schestowitz-TRit is not a countryAug 11 03:09
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MinceRanother pretenderAug 11 03:09
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schestowitz-TRand it never wasAug 11 03:10
CrystalMathalso the kingdom of yugoslavia is not the same as the socialist federal republic of yugoslaviaAug 11 03:10
CrystalMaththese are two different statesAug 11 03:10
CrystalMaththere are states with no territoryAug 11 03:10
CrystalMathsome are even EU members!Aug 11 03:10
CrystalMaththe order of malta for exampleAug 11 03:10
CrystalMath(not malta, but the order of malta)Aug 11 03:10
schestowitz-TRcity of london etc.Aug 11 03:10
schestowitz-TRbut those are symbolicAug 11 03:10
schestowitz-TRless so than vaticanAug 11 03:11
schestowitz-TRanyway, back to work..Aug 11 03:11
MinceRsealandAug 11 03:11
MinceRliberlandAug 11 03:11
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CrystalMathhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_MaltaAug 11 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sovereign Military Order of Malta - WikipediaAug 11 03:11
CrystalMathrecognized officiallyAug 11 03:11
CrystalMathhas diplomatic relations with most countriesAug 11 03:11
CrystalMathbut no territory at allAug 11 03:11
techrights-ipfs-botQmSkz4YGj3vTuC8Q6t7fPmQkSbvtThba65AHUjyotSbHLWAug 11 03:11
techrights-news#patent booster Dennis Crouch, funded by the #litigation lobby, also gives coverage to a crank https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/hoyle-v-lee.htmlAug 11 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Hoyle v. Lee | Patently-OAug 11 03:11
MinceRone alleged sovereign state was not enough for the catholics, they had to have two?Aug 11 03:12
CrystalMathMinceR: is a (partial?) EU member, with all of its 0 square meters of territoryAug 11 03:12
CrystalMathi'm just sayingAug 11 03:12
CrystalMathyou don't NEED territory to be a stateAug 11 03:12
CrystalMaththe state is a virtual structureAug 11 03:12
XRevan86a state of mindAug 11 03:12
MinceR:)Aug 11 03:12
MinceRa spookAug 11 03:13
techrights-newsWhen did the US #patent system give so much of a rise to charlatans and frauds? Even the #uspto tries to distance itself from some, e.g. http://techrights.org/2018/10/06/tax-evasion-and-patents/Aug 11 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Hyatt an Inventor or a Tax Evader? | TechrightsAug 11 03:13
CrystalMathi believe Joseon is perfectly validAug 11 03:13
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: same people with fake wealthAug 11 03:13
schestowitz-TRI have some bytes and bites hereAug 11 03:13
schestowitz-TRso I am very richAug 11 03:13
schestowitz-TRbut my bank says millions in debtAug 11 03:13
XRevan86CrystalMath: There's a sect of USSR believersAug 11 03:13
CrystalMathbut Joseon has a historical importance to itAug 11 03:13
schestowitz-TRI ignore thatAug 11 03:13
DaemonFChttps://www.pcmag.com/news/biggest-software-flops-of-all-timeAug 11 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Biggest Software Flops of All Time | PCMagAug 11 03:13
schestowitz-TRI have bytes and bitsAug 11 03:13
DaemonFCGNU HURD is on the list.Aug 11 03:13
XRevan86they're in hundreds of thousandsAug 11 03:13
CrystalMathXRevan86: they believe the USSR is still real?Aug 11 03:14
XRevan86CrystalMath: Maybe they can orrange diplomatic relations with JoseonAug 11 03:14
XRevan86CrystalMath: yesAug 11 03:14
schestowitz-TRDaemonFC: I saw thatAug 11 03:14
MinceRso, how does the SMOM manage to save its members from the depredations of other states?Aug 11 03:14
DaemonFCIt's fair, I suppose.Aug 11 03:14
XRevan86* arrangeAug 11 03:14
CrystalMathMinceR: they live where they aren't bothered i guessAug 11 03:14
DaemonFCHURD works, it just isn't very stable or useful.Aug 11 03:14
CrystalMathMinceR: there aren't many of themAug 11 03:15
schestowitzCrystalMath: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txtAug 11 03:15
MinceRCrystalMath: where is that? they don't have territory of their ownAug 11 03:15
CrystalMathMinceR: yes but they go around catholic countriesAug 11 03:15
CrystalMathwhere they're not bothered for sacred reasonsAug 11 03:15
schestowitz"the nations with more physical power and nuke stomp on intl' law"Aug 11 03:15
CrystalMathsimilar to the vaticanAug 11 03:15
MinceRah, so they rely on fundamentalist statesAug 11 03:15
CrystalMathprobably they hang around in the vatican most of the timeAug 11 03:15
CrystalMathinterestingly i learned they have nothing to do with actual maltaAug 11 03:16
CrystalMathnor do they claim anything in maltaAug 11 03:16
schestowitzLee: "The rest of us are meh.  Even me, it's funny that people are like 'ahh lee is rich rich rich' but its like... yeah sure, im richer than the average, but i dont think they understand whats going on in the world.  I'm like definitely at the bottom of any rich list if I'm even on one. :P"Aug 11 03:16
schestowitz"<rasengan[llf]> So basically, I'm hoping to open citizenship to the digital nation of joseon to eveyrone in the world"Aug 11 03:16
schestowitzcrank talkAug 11 03:16
schestowitzhe thinks he can convert IRC networks into fake nationsAug 11 03:16
CrystalMathdigital nation of joseon!Aug 11 03:16
schestowitzmaybe that's his endgameAug 11 03:16
MinceRfundamentalism has certainly be handy in helping cultists get away with not paying taxesAug 11 03:16
CrystalMaththat is pretty amazingAug 11 03:17
MinceRs/be/been/Aug 11 03:17
schestowitzCrystalMath: yes, total crazinessAug 11 03:17
CrystalMathi'd like to see how it goesAug 11 03:17
schestowitzso he  destroyed an entire IRC networkAug 11 03:17
*DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)Aug 11 03:17
schestowitzjust to buy an illusion of "digital" citizenAug 11 03:17
schestowitzof some fantasy land he claims to be the ruler ofAug 11 03:17
schestowitznaturalisation in irc.comAug 11 03:18
schestowitzput email addressAug 11 03:18
schestowitzwelcome, not you are governed by a stonerAug 11 03:18
schestowitz*nowAug 11 03:18
schestowitz"Aug 11 03:18
schestowitz[20:55] <rasengan[llf]> and everyone that joins will get an equal amoun tof a coinAug 11 03:19
schestowitz[20:55] <rasengan[llf]> which the coin will only have enough for 8billion people.Aug 11 03:19
schestowitz[20:55] <rasengan[llf]> and everyone gets the same amount.Aug 11 03:19
schestowitz"Aug 11 03:19
schestowitzso now you see what he had in mindAug 11 03:19
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DaemonFCMicrosoft just pushed a cumulative update that only includes a fix for that PrintNightmare thing.Aug 11 03:20
schestowitz-TRthey should self-deleteAug 11 03:21
schestowitz-TRand put gnu/linux insteadAug 11 03:21
MinceRpeople should use a free unix for printingAug 11 03:21
schestowitz-TRwill save them trouble and moneyAug 11 03:21
schestowitz-TRthey can focus on business areas where they still make money, like...Aug 11 03:21
*schestowitz-TR thinksAug 11 03:21
*schestowitz-TR thinksAug 11 03:21
schestowitz-TRoh.Aug 11 03:21
MinceR:>Aug 11 03:21
schestowitz-TRsucking  up to Trump for bailoutsAug 11 03:22
schestowitz-TRor to Biden for 22 billion in Pentagon contract for "HOLOLENS"Aug 11 03:22
schestowitz-TRa company that does not existAug 11 03:22
activelowgood morningAug 11 03:22
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft fired ALL its staffAug 11 03:22
schestowitz-TRMicrosoft = Fraud Inc.Aug 11 03:23
schestowitz-TRmaybe when bill gates goes down in flames in cuomo even biden will refuse to associate with or bail out MicrosofttAug 11 03:23
techrights-news#EPO granting #fakepatents and only lawyers win https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/agile-diffraction-and-femtonics-battle-at-epo-over-medical-laser-technology/Aug 11 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Agile Diffraction and Femtonics battle at EPO over medical laser technology - JUVE PatentAug 11 03:24
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activelowmicrosoft stock prize increased 999% in the last decadeAug 11 03:30
schestowitz-TRfraudAug 11 03:31
MinceRit's a bubble, like appleAug 11 03:31
techrights-newsFirefox 91 Available to Download, This is What’s New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154345#comment-30509Aug 11 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 91 Arrives as the New ESR Series, Brings Back Simplified Printing | Tux MachinesAug 11 03:31
schestowitz-TRactivelow:  a decade ago they had monopoly market shareAug 11 03:31
schestowitz-TRnow, what do they have?Aug 11 03:31
schestowitzhttps://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debtAug 11 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 1942-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | HistoricalAug 11 03:32
schestowitzUS national debt more than doubled in the past decade aloneAug 11 03:32
schestowitzin less than a decadeAug 11 03:32
schestowitzthey just pass money to peopleAug 11 03:32
schestowitzthe public becomes indebted to themAug 11 03:32
schestowitzUSSR version 2Aug 11 03:33
schestowitzjust waiting for the mic to dropAug 11 03:33
*XRevan86 can't stop laughingAug 11 03:33
schestowitz-TRdrumming up war with chinaAug 11 03:33
schestowitz-TRand blaming russsshaAug 11 03:33
XRevan86cryptocurrency for crypto-Joseon :DAug 11 03:34
techrights-newsDifference between #Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server https://linuxhint.com/ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-server-difference/ #gnu #linuxAug 11 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu ServerAug 11 03:34
activelowapple stocks exploded tooAug 11 03:34
activelowimpossible to bail-outAug 11 03:34
XRevan86activelow: It's because IRC.com is available for iOSAug 11 03:34
techrights-newsFIPS 140-2 certification for #Ubuntu 20.04 LTS! https://ubuntu.com//blog/fips-certification-ubuntu-20-04-lts #gnu #linux http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/Aug 11 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FIPS 140-2 certification for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS! | UbuntuAug 11 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | TechrightsAug 11 03:35
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: maybe you can pay back the bank in "CRYPTO"?Aug 11 03:35
XRevan86schestowitz: Oh, he really should read-up on the USSR sect :DAug 11 03:37
XRevan86they did some stuffAug 11 03:37
XRevan86The way they gaslight police, courts and banks is impressive stuff.Aug 11 03:38
schestowitz-TRwait, are we talking about Putin? :-pAug 11 03:39
XRevan86No, no, there are people who deny that USSR dissolved.Aug 11 03:39
XRevan86there are many factions with varying narratives that support their viewAug 11 03:40
techrights-news#Debian and #Ubuntu Miscellany • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154380 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 03:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Miscellany | Tux MachinesAug 11 03:41
techrights-news"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants – Issac Newton, 1675. Although it should be credited to 12th century Bernard of Chartres. You will know why I have shared this, probably at the beginning of Civil Aviation history itself." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2021/08/11/bbi-ip-report-state-borders-and-civil-aviation-i/Aug 11 03:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | BBI, IP report, State Borders and Civil Aviation – I – Experiences in the communityAug 11 03:41
techrights-news7 Tips to Speed Up #TorBrowser - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/make-tor-faster/ ䷉ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 7 Tips to Speed Up Tor Browser - Make Tech EasierAug 11 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsAug 11 03:44
techrights-newsDoes #linuxhint realise that people subscribe for LINUX stories? They doom the site by pushing #windows #spamAug 11 03:45
techrights-news#linuxhint seems to have been compromised by #microsoft hacks, not just #amazons spammers. I cannot recommend that site anymore... infiltrated by rogues.Aug 11 03:46
techrights-news#microsoft has a long history of infiltrating and destroying pro- #gnu #linux sites, e.g. #softpedia http://techrights.org/2020/05/12/softpedia-change/Aug 11 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Team Microsoft’ Took Control of Softpedia to Control Coverage About GNU/Linux | TechrightsAug 11 03:49
schestowitzXRevan86: * Current global users: 8969  Max: 22832Aug 11 03:56
schestowitzwoohooAug 11 03:56
schestowitzhis kingdom is like north koreaAug 11 03:56
schestowitzthose who can, leaveAug 11 03:57
XRevan86schestowitz: He should put a portrait on the homepage.Aug 11 03:57
XRevan86As a reminder of who the President is.Aug 11 03:58
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154381 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 11 03:58
techrights-newsNews roundup: #PinePhone keyboard, mainline Linux kernel, and #Waydroid • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154382 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 03:58
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schestowitz-TRXRevan86: not yetAug 11 03:59
schestowitz-TRyou leap a stageAug 11 03:59
schestowitz-TRfirst it becomes his personal blogAug 11 03:59
schestowitz-TRprior to that, he became "root"Aug 11 03:59
schestowitz-TRprior to that, he took over channelsAug 11 03:59
schestowitz-TRone step at a timeAug 11 03:59
XRevan86freenode definitely increasingly becomes more and more about him.Aug 11 03:59
*DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)Aug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRnow the chanserv is called after the dictatorshipAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRfreenode by irc.comAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRLee by irc.comAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRLee by LeeAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRlong live the kingAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRFreenode is LEEAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRFOSS is LEEAug 11 04:00
schestowitz-TRLEELOAug 11 04:01
XRevan86schestowitz: I wonder what Lee thinks about the ideas of Juche.Aug 11 04:01
techrights-newsInteresting... so #linuxhint over #RSS is 'spamming' #microsoft "content", whereas the site itself sort of masks or hides that. Either way, bodes well for what people running that site are trying to accomplish.Aug 11 04:02
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: I don't know what it's aboutAug 11 04:02
schestowitz-TRI saw that mentioned some time when I was at workAug 11 04:03
schestowitz-TRk00ks attract k00ksAug 11 04:03
schestowitz-TRthey reaffirm their beliefs to one anotherAug 11 04:03
XRevan86schestowitz: It's like Stalinism but a Korean flavour.Aug 11 04:03
MinceR11 045759 < XRevan86> schestowitz: He should put a portrait on the homepage.Aug 11 04:04
MinceRonly if it comes in the stalinist styleAug 11 04:05
XRevan86Turkmenistan is making people swear an oath on Quran to never use VPN :)Aug 11 04:06
XRevan86that's one nation Joseon will never have any relations withAug 11 04:07
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CrystalMathXRevan86: juche? don't give him ideas please:PAug 11 04:07
XRevan86CrystalMath: I think the ideas on leadership (what some call "cult of personality") will resonate.Aug 11 04:08
techrights-news#4K2K PDAF camera targets i.MX8M and i.MX8M Mini • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154383 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 04:09
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schestowitzoh, I see... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JucheAug 11 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Juche - WikipediaAug 11 04:10
schestowitz"Juche (/dʒuːˈtʃeɪ/; About this soundEnglish pronunciation (help·info); Korean: 주체; lit. subject; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]; usually left untranslated[1] or translated as "self-reliance") is the official ideology of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, described by the government as "Kim Il-sung's original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought".[2] It postulates that "man is the Aug 11 04:10
schestowitzmaster of his destiny",[3] that the masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction", and that by becoming self-reliant and strong, a nation can achieve true socialism.[3]"Aug 11 04:10
schestowitzLOL, wtf?Aug 11 04:10
MinceRstarving to death is indeed brilliant and revolutionaryAug 11 04:10
schestowitz-TRyeahAug 11 04:11
schestowitz"Kim Il-sung (1912–1994) developed the ideology, which was originally viewed as a variant of Marxism–Leninism until it became a distinct ideology[2] while it incorporated the historical materialist ideas of Marxism–Leninism and strongly emphasized the individual, the nation state and its sovereignty"Aug 11 04:11
schestowitzThe original KimAug 11 04:11
schestowitznow the fattest kimAug 11 04:11
schestowitzwho hoards all the foodAug 11 04:11
schestowitzbtw, ceo of ltm (the pia parent) is a kimAug 11 04:12
schestowitz"The ideology developed after losing its original Marxist–Leninist elements.[4][5] According to North Korea: A Country Study by Robert L. Worden, Marxism–Leninism was abandoned immediately after the start of de-Stalinisation in the Soviet Union and it has been totally replaced by Juche since at least 1974."Aug 11 04:12
schestowitzhow is this pronounced? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:En-US-Juche.oggAug 11 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:En-US-Juche.ogg - WikipediaAug 11 04:13
schestowitzjuicy!!!Aug 11 04:13
schestowitzsort ofAug 11 04:13
XRevan86I wonder how Koreans pronounce it. The Russian transcription goes like Chuchkhe, where kh is /x/, of course.Aug 11 04:15
XRevan86> [t͡ɕut͡ɕʰe̞]Aug 11 04:16
schestowitz-TRthe ogg files sounds like hangul mspeakerAug 11 04:16
XRevan86Actually Chuchhe, where "h" is aspiration.Aug 11 04:16
schestowitz-TRremember "chits"?Aug 11 04:17
schestowitz-TRin the kingdom of emperor FN by irc.com you get to chit on the wifeAug 11 04:17
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A3%BC%EC%B2%B4#Korean at least that's the Seoul pronunciation as stated hereAug 11 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | 주체 - WiktionaryAug 11 04:17
techrights-news#ExpressVPN Opens Up Its Lightway VPN Protocol • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154384 #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubAug 11 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ExpressVPN Opens Up Its Lightway VPN Protocol | Tux MachinesAug 11 04:18
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XRevan86schestowitz: "the ogg files sounds like hangul mspeaker" – it's called En-US-Juche.ogg for a reason.Aug 11 04:18
techrights-news" #patent monetization company, identified as its managing member." #patentTrolls with #swpats ... #fakepatents #ptab https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/8/4/pacsec3-564-patent-challengedAug 11 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | PacSec3 '564 patent challenged — Unified PatentsAug 11 04:19
schestowitz-TRso us has its own 'dialect' of hangul now?Aug 11 04:20
XRevan86"Juche (/dʒuːˈtʃeɪ/; English pronunciation"Aug 11 04:20
XRevan86schestowitz: It's for people who don't know what the accepted pronunciation in English is.Aug 11 04:20
XRevan86I am exposed to two versions that are barely alike, so I got curious which one is more accurate.Aug 11 04:23
techrights-newsGross misuse of meaningless mumbo-jumbo like "HEY HI" and propaganda like "IP" when actually speaking about something else; this is unscientific rubbish disguised as science; philosophy self-indulgence at best. https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1086166/ai-and-ip-implications-for-digital-health-from-possible-reforms-to-uk-ip-lawAug 11 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | AI And IP: Implications For Digital Health From Possible Reforms To UK IP Law - Intellectual Property - UKAug 11 04:23
XRevan86But it could also be a dialectal thing in Korean.Aug 11 04:23
XRevan86Like Beijing/Peking in ChineseAug 11 04:24
techrights-news#germany has long enabled #epo #corruption for #patent euros. Now it does this: https://www.mondaq.com/germany/trade-secrets/1085738/germany-passes-law-to-restrict-injunctive-relief-in-patent-cases-by-proportionality-considerations see this series: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/Aug 11 04:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Germany Passes Law To Restrict Injunctive Relief In Patent Cases By Proportionality Considerations - Intellectual Property - GermanyAug 11 04:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag — Part 20: Taking Stock | TechrightsAug 11 04:24
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: anyone still saying Peking?Aug 11 04:25
schestowitz-TRexcert er suck?Aug 11 04:25
schestowitz-TRoopsAug 11 04:25
schestowitz-TRre duckAug 11 04:25
schestowitz-TR*except regarding the duck?Aug 11 04:25
schestowitz-TRwhen I was a child people said PekingAug 11 04:26
schestowitz-TRthat seems to have changed laterAug 11 04:26
MinceRpeople still say "Peking" in hungaryAug 11 04:26
schestowitz-TRwhere china controls educationAug 11 04:27
schestowitz-TRit's bizarre that a right-wing regime will succumb to "foreigners"Aug 11 04:27
XRevan86schestowitz: If I remember correctly, Peking is from CantoneseAug 11 04:27
schestowitz-TRI guess some "foreigners" are "better" (richer) than othersAug 11 04:28
XRevan86when Putonghua got a lot more prominent, the transliteration switched to that phonologyAug 11 04:28
schestowitz-TRand those "foreigners" are not even rich, except collectively when you add up 1,500 million of themAug 11 04:28
XRevan86schestowitz: English has a tendency of re-adopting proper names when phonology changes, in some areas more than in others.Aug 11 04:31
XRevan86https://twitter.com/irydacea/status/1425295449221734401Aug 11 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@irydacea: this is the new freenode autonomous zone. you can't make this stuff up https://t.co/18pfvsB70QAug 11 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@irydacea: this is the new freenode autonomous zone. you can't make this stuff up https://t.co/18pfvsB70QAug 11 04:32
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm going to update the bot connection settings.Aug 11 04:32
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.eu/irydacea/status/1425295449221734401Aug 11 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | 💜 Queen Iris (@irydacea): "this is the new freenode autonomous zone. you can't make this stuff up" | nitterAug 11 04:32
XRevan86techrights will now be bridged with… irc.joseon.krAug 11 04:32
MinceRfor now, the bridge is still up :>Aug 11 04:33
*XRevan86 looks at "[irc.freenode]' – hmmm…Aug 11 04:33
XRevan86that should be [irc.joseon]Aug 11 04:33
techrights-newsWas #freenode taken over in a hostile fashion? DEFINITELY. Now we have proof. https://nitter.eu/irydacea/status/1425295449221734401Aug 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRnetwork of crackpots and cranksAug 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRthat's why I would not sign up for anything in irc.comAug 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRit's like a pseudo naturalisation thingAug 11 04:34
XRevan86schestowitz: Ye already did though.Aug 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRkape looks yet worse now... if that's possible at allAug 11 04:34
schestowitz-TRthis won't end well...Aug 11 04:35
schestowitz-TRdebt, ego, bloodAug 11 04:35
MinceRsure it willAug 11 04:35
schestowitz-TRmaybe a divorce soon... after the foreclosureAug 11 04:35
MinceRit will end with the extinction of humans :>Aug 11 04:36
schestowitz-TRnot yetAug 11 04:36
schestowitz-TRcovid19 is too weakAug 11 04:36
schestowitz-TR[sarcasm][Aug 11 04:36
schestowitz-TRMinceR: on a serious note though:Aug 11 04:36
schestowitz-TRisolating from people is now socially acceptableAug 11 04:37
schestowitz-TRI like that aspectAug 11 04:37
XRevan86pause for a bit, bridge is restartingAug 11 04:37
schestowitz-TR"roy, you didn't leave the house for a WEEK!"Aug 11 04:37
schestowitz-TR"yeah, so?"Aug 11 04:37
schestowitz-TR"safety first"Aug 11 04:37
*bridge has quit (connection closed)Aug 11 04:37
MinceR:)Aug 11 04:37
*bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrightsAug 11 04:37
*irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridgeAug 11 04:37
XRevan86And we're back.Aug 11 04:37
schestowitz* Current global users: 8955  Max: 22832Aug 11 04:38
MinceRSARS-CoV-2 is not working alone :>Aug 11 04:38
schestowitzit is only ever decreasingAug 11 04:38
schestowitzmight be 7,000 by month's endAug 11 04:38
schestowitzbut never underestimate domain changeAug 11 04:38
schestowitznot to irc.comAug 11 04:38
schestowitzbut mememememem!!.orgAug 11 04:38
schestowitzand maybe people will sigh and walk awayAug 11 04:39
XRevan86Yea, all my predictions failed due to my lack of imagination.Aug 11 04:39
MinceRnext: irc.andrew.leeAug 11 04:39
schestowitzXRevan86: did you put back the bridge in another network?Aug 11 04:39
MinceRit's in another shard of leenodeAug 11 04:39
schestowitzI cannot see it restored or reinstated in freenodeAug 11 04:39
MinceRnot the one i'm inAug 11 04:40
XRevan86schestowitz: They appear to be temporarily split.Aug 11 04:40
XRevan86I moved it to the new one.Aug 11 04:40
schestowitzso the crackpot figures he can prop up an illusion of citizensAug 11 04:40
schestowitzby hijacking an actual communityAug 11 04:40
schestowitzof about 100k users onlineAug 11 04:40
schestowitzmore inc. offlinersAug 11 04:40
schestowitzand then 'convert' them to his cultAug 11 04:40
schestowitzlook at the .txt fileAug 11 04:41
schestowitzseems like this is his endgameAug 11 04:41
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm going to go sleep, and this arrangement looks more stable.Aug 11 04:41
schestowitzit's a scammy thingAug 11 04:41
MinceRwell, if he wanted to retain a significant fraction of existing users, then he's really seriously doing it wrongAug 11 04:41
schestowitz23 users in freenodeAug 11 04:41
schestowitzwas almost 100 in MayAug 11 04:41
MinceRrequiring SASL to connect is not the way to do thatAug 11 04:41
MinceRalso, losing services database is also not the way to do thatAug 11 04:42
schestowitzchanserv is downAug 11 04:42
MinceRand pissing off people by taking over their channels is also not the way to do thatAug 11 04:42
schestowitzI guess travellingAug 11 04:42
schestowitzupside it, our longtime plan is self-hosting became realityAug 11 04:42
XRevan86schestowitz: Welcome to Joseon :DAug 11 04:42
schestowitzand with enough motivation for all to adopt itAug 11 04:42
schestowitzXRevan86: welcome to a serverAug 11 04:43
schestowitzand a domainAug 11 04:43
schestowitzrented off some regisrarAug 11 04:43
schestowitzall they need now is some ballistic missiles with nuclear warheadsAug 11 04:43
XRevan86schestowitz: If ye re-connect, ye'll appear on the Joseon side of the current netsplit.Aug 11 04:43
schestowitzbut I would need to registerAug 11 04:43
schestowitzorr....Aug 11 04:44
schestowitzdid that other domain open up again to anon access?Aug 11 04:44
XRevan86schestowitz: Why would it?Aug 11 04:44
schestowitz[04:45] [Users] Current users on the network: 8656  Max: 22832Aug 11 04:45
XRevan86schestowitz: Joseon is in a middle of a netsplit, so the numbers won't be accurate now.Aug 11 04:46
techrights-news#freenode endgame is to pretend what's LEFT of freenode users are somehow "citizens" of the fake nation of a fake "prince" (admission from months ago). This is like a scam of a crackpot in deep debt. http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txtAug 11 04:48
MinceR11 054331 <~schestowitz> all they need now is some ballistic missiles with nuclear warheadsAug 11 04:49
MinceRa slightly more challenging stepAug 11 04:49
techrights-news#freenode is to #techrights just legacy at this stage. The current network is in effect compromised and should be treated as such. http://techrights.org/irc-channel/Aug 11 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | TechrightsAug 11 04:49
MinceRmaybe they'll keep the netsplit going and declare one part "north" and the other "south"Aug 11 04:49
XRevan86MinceR: Hah. But no, chat.freenode.net already points to irc.joseon.krAug 11 04:50
schestowitzmaybe they can mine uranium instead of 'crypto' 'coin'Aug 11 04:50
MinceRmaybe they can buy some ancient russian warheads lyring aroundAug 11 04:50
MinceRmaybe also missilesAug 11 04:50
techrights-newschat.freenode.net has become irc.joseon.kr so the joke about #freenode becoming "LeeNode" is no longer a joke.Aug 11 04:51
techrights-news#freenode is run by someone who thinks #africa is a county http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/andrew-lee-l0de-interview/Aug 11 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Annotated Transcript of Andrew Lee (Freenode) Interview With Lode Ray Dio | TechrightsAug 11 04:51
XRevan86Can't even mock the Joseon residents yet, will have to wait for them to join.Aug 11 04:52
schestowitzMinceR: maybe they can deliver with helium balloons and kites insreadAug 11 04:52
MinceRlolAug 11 04:53
MinceRwhat could possibly go wrong?Aug 11 04:53
schestowitzfor the warhead or the balloon?Aug 11 04:53
MinceRyesAug 11 04:54
MinceR(though i was mainly thinking of the wind blowing in a different direction than intended)Aug 11 04:54
schestowitzthat's a featureAug 11 04:54
schestowitzweapon defence system: an array of fansAug 11 04:54
MinceRit didn't go too well with chemical weapons eitherAug 11 04:55
schestowitzphew phew phew... GO AWAYAug 11 04:55
MinceRespecially with the lighter stuff, like chlorineAug 11 04:55
techrights-newsNew #freenode is an ego trip gone awryAug 11 04:56
techrights-newsThat remains to be seen is, what will the collapse of LTM/PIA/Freenode mean to #shellsdotcom and what will that mean to bloggers and vloggers (influencers) who shill it?Aug 11 04:57
techrights-newsWithout all the self-harming BS I reckon #freenode could still have over 60,000 users online at this point. But no... the branding does not fulfil the delusion of an imaginary "nation"Aug 11 04:58
XRevan86Can Joseon be called a vanity project?Aug 11 04:59
schestowitz-TRit's worseAug 11 04:59
schestowitz-TRan escape planAug 11 04:59
MinceRnot a good one at thatAug 11 04:59
kingoffrance"so now you see what he had in mind"  "and everyone that joins will get an equal amoun tof a coin"  yes i told CrystalMath it was "socialist"  you're welcome lolAug 11 05:00
XRevan86escapist plan?Aug 11 05:00
kingoffranceit's his experiment i guessAug 11 05:00
CrystalMathoh hmmAug 11 05:00
CrystalMathflashback...Aug 11 05:00
CrystalMathirc.joseon.kr is not linked with the rest of freenodeAug 11 05:00
CrystalMathso if you connect nowAug 11 05:00
CrystalMathyou get a near-empty networkAug 11 05:01
schestowitzI am removing the webappAug 11 05:01
schestowitz"We used to be based in Freenode between 2008 and 2021. Following ownership changes we cannot recommend Freenode anymore. It does not allow anonymous access. If you still wish to use Freenode instead of our self-hosted network, details and an applet are below. The channels are all bridged across to our network."Aug 11 05:01
CrystalMathhowever, this time, the services database appears to be migratedAug 11 05:01
schestowitzIt does not work anywayAug 11 05:01
XRevan86CrystalMath: I guess ye got your "freenode classic" wish.Aug 11 05:01
MinceRnot reallyAug 11 05:01
XRevan86Careful what ye wish for.Aug 11 05:01
MinceRnone of the shreds are classicAug 11 05:01
schestowitzalso "Ensure JavaScript is enabled to use the embedded facility above."Aug 11 05:01
CrystalMathschestowitz: that's fine, rasengan is also removing the webappAug 11 05:01
MinceRand afaik none of them work properlyAug 11 05:01
schestowitzwe need to warn people about freenode at this pointAug 11 05:01
schestowitzCrystalMath: don't be fooledAug 11 05:01
XRevan86MinceR: They have the classic name :)Aug 11 05:01
MinceRlolAug 11 05:02
schestowitzthey folded their cardsAug 11 05:02
schestowitzit's a scamAug 11 05:02
MinceRthey have all the namesAug 11 05:02
CrystalMatha scam?Aug 11 05:02
schestowitzLike KAPE and "CASINOA TEDDY"|Aug 11 05:02
MinceRfreenode, Joseon, irc.comAug 11 05:02
MinceRleenodeAug 11 05:02
XRevan86schestowitz: Maybe now irc-channel can stop mentioning Joseon at all?Aug 11 05:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-channel/ updatedAug 11 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | TechrightsAug 11 05:03
schestowitzXRevan86: it is legacyAug 11 05:03
schestowitzwe have 13+ years of logs that mention "freenode" by nameAug 11 05:03
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, update the domain name then.Aug 11 05:03
schestowitzthankfully those logs, static files btw, do not mention the network by addressAug 11 05:03
schestowitzexcept this pageAug 11 05:03
MinceRa bit of comedy for you >> https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-peopleAug 11 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenodeAug 11 05:03
schestowitzwhich we can treat as dynamicAug 11 05:04
XRevan86schestowitz: It's irc.joseon.krAug 11 05:04
schestowitzno hard-linkingAug 11 05:04
schestowitzwhat else do we know?Aug 11 05:04
schestowitzI think we owe it to people who saw our freenode posts in May... to let them know freenode is a scamAug 11 05:05
schestowitzbut we need to understand the next phase of itAug 11 05:05
schestowitz ping irc.freenode.netAug 11 05:05
schestowitzPING irc.freenode.net(2001:19f0:5:5a1c:5400:3ff:fe7b:b6d (2001:19f0:5:5a1c:5400:3ff:fe7b:b6d)) 56 data bytesAug 11 05:05
XRevan86MinceR: He forgot "???" and "PROFIT"Aug 11 05:05
MinceR:>Aug 11 05:05
schestowitzXRevan86: how can you figure out the redirect or alias?Aug 11 05:06
schestowitzping irc.joseon.krAug 11 05:06
schestowitzPING irc.joseon.kr(2001:19f0:5c01:141c:5400:3ff:fe7b:ba2 (2001:19f0:5c01:141c:5400:3ff:fe7b:ba2)) 56 data bytesAug 11 05:06
schestowitznot the same addressAug 11 05:06
XRevan86schestowitz: dig +short CNAME chat.freenode.netAug 11 05:06
schestowitzthanksAug 11 05:06
XRevan86> Special thanks to Shane (mrinfinity) for help with the edits.Aug 11 05:07
CrystalMathschestowitz: what scam?Aug 11 05:07
XRevan86And yet… "we breath"Aug 11 05:07
schestowitzCrystalMath: he's looking to prop up 'toilet paper' nationAug 11 05:07
schestowitzwith IRC as fake 'evidence' of 'citizens'Aug 11 05:07
MinceRcornholiovirus?Aug 11 05:07
schestowitzfor ego, lending, who knows what else...Aug 11 05:07
CrystalMathwhat sort of lending?Aug 11 05:07
schestowitz"joseon.kr’s server IP address could not be found."Aug 11 05:08
XRevan86I honestly have no idea how the mentioned steps get the network anywhere closer to decentralisation.Aug 11 05:08
schestowitzthey don't even serve over http/sAug 11 05:08
schestowitzyetAug 11 05:08
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▁▃▁▄▅▅▁▄▃▅▃▅▁▃▁▃▃▅▆▄▁▆▃▆▇▄▁▅▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 27.05 ▕  IPFS upstream: ██▁█▃▃▁▁▁▁▂▇▃█▁█▂▁▂▁█▂▃█▁▂▂▃█▂▃▄█▁ avg(k/sec) 87.68▕ swarm size (avg): 275.46  ⟲Aug 11 05:08
XRevan86schestowitz: Yea, it's a bit weird. But priorities I guess.Aug 11 05:09
XRevan86> Officially become digital territory of the Joseon EmpireAug 11 05:09
XRevan86CrystalMath: The first empire without territory.Aug 11 05:09
CrystalMathXRevan86: not the firstAug 11 05:09
XRevan86Try to find an example of that :)Aug 11 05:09
XRevan86Not some Order, but a bloody Empire.Aug 11 05:10
CrystalMathalso technically, empires were decentralied :PAug 11 05:10
CrystalMath*decentralizedAug 11 05:10
kingoffrance^Aug 11 05:10
CrystalMaththey had local rulersAug 11 05:10
XRevan86CrystalMath: I live in a Federation.Aug 11 05:10
CrystalMathit's similarAug 11 05:10
XRevan86I know the concept.Aug 11 05:10
CrystalMathyeahAug 11 05:10
XRevan86However, in networking federation is more like confederation, a lot more loose.Aug 11 05:11
MinceRdisfederation would be looserAug 11 05:11
XRevan86Decentralised networks don't have an overseer.Aug 11 05:11
kingoffrance*dont have a visibleAug 11 05:11
kingoffranceevverything comes down to physical servers at some pointAug 11 05:12
kingoffrancein some territory, with an overseerAug 11 05:12
XRevan86XMPP is decentralised, Tox even more so,  Joseon is… not that.Aug 11 05:12
XRevan86No matter how much Blockchain they throw at it.Aug 11 05:12
kingoffranceclown is an example, surely there are "overseers" in clownland :)Aug 11 05:13
XRevan86kingoffrance: Oi, that's just sophism.Aug 11 05:13
kingoffranceits what territories are made ofAug 11 05:13
MinceRmaybe they just need more buzzwordsAug 11 05:13
kingoffranceinvisible boundariesAug 11 05:13
MinceR"serverless" might just do it!Aug 11 05:13
XRevan86kingoffrance: Federated networks connect by protocol, they don't have a unifying entity.Aug 11 05:14
schestowitzXRevan86: I do a blog postAug 11 05:14
schestowitzany other info to add?Aug 11 05:14
schestowitzwill share a draft in a minAug 11 05:14
CrystalMathYou cannot change your nickname (You must use your IRC.com account)Aug 11 05:15
CrystalMathnick changes are indeed not possible on joseonAug 11 05:15
kingoffrancei dont deny that, merely real physical world "power relations" will reflect in virtual internet landAug 11 05:15
kingoffranceor money, or whatever, resourcesAug 11 05:15
kingoffrancethey are not separate but joinedAug 11 05:15
XRevan86schestowitz: I shared what I had.Aug 11 05:15
MinceRCrystalMath: what if you do /nickserv logout?Aug 11 05:15
CrystalMathMinceR: i woudln't dare to tryAug 11 05:16
CrystalMath*wouldn'tAug 11 05:16
MinceRlolAug 11 05:16
CrystalMathprobably you get Guest23843Aug 11 05:16
CrystalMathand that becomes a real problemAug 11 05:16
CrystalMathuntil you reconnect and re-SASLAug 11 05:16
XRevan86* Guest228Aug 11 05:16
MinceR:>Aug 11 05:16
MinceRXRevan228Aug 11 05:16
XRevan86MinceR: 👀Aug 11 05:17
XRevan86CrystalMath: That's one way to still mess with the implementation, if that does happen.Aug 11 05:18
CrystalMathnow we'll see who didn't register on new freenodeAug 11 05:19
schestowitzXRevan86: draft http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/Aug 11 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | TechrightsAug 11 05:19
CrystalMathschestowitz: harshAug 11 05:19
CrystalMathi mean freenode has been shut down, it's joseon nowAug 11 05:19
schestowitz-TRtrueAug 11 05:19
schestowitz-TRyesAug 11 05:19
schestowitz-TRhostile exploitationAug 11 05:19
schestowitz-TRand it was the end goalAug 11 05:19
schestowitz-TRthe question was, WHENAug 11 05:19
CrystalMathi have no reason to believe it's hostileAug 11 05:19
schestowitz-TRsee my chat with LeeAug 11 05:20
XRevan86schestowitz: Ye should make your own screenshot or attribute.Aug 11 05:20
schestowitz-TRhe had this in mindAug 11 05:20
XRevan86Shouldn't be hard.Aug 11 05:20
CrystalMathit's a new small networkAug 11 05:20
schestowitz-TRthe question was, how many plebs he could drag off freenode.netAug 11 05:20
schestowitz-TRhe used freenode as a funnel/sieveAug 11 05:20
schestowitz-TRnot caring for its actual communitiesAug 11 05:20
schestowitz-TRand what the users wantedAug 11 05:20
CrystalMathfor a new network?Aug 11 05:21
schestowitz-TRyesAug 11 05:21
schestowitz-TRto feed him little 'empire'Aug 11 05:21
XRevan86schestowitz: "It is not ours" – iffyAug 11 05:21
schestowitz-TRa domain name and fake kingdomAug 11 05:21
CrystalMathi still think you're being harshAug 11 05:22
CrystalMathi mean, you're right if you say "this is not freenode"Aug 11 05:22
schestowitz" not our responsibility"Aug 11 05:22
CrystalMathbut it doesn't say it's freenodeAug 11 05:22
schestowitzeditedAug 11 05:22
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: see dig outputAug 11 05:22
schestowitz-TRthey funnel people that wayAug 11 05:23
XRevan86CrystalMath: This is insane, and usually people react to insanity with strong rejection.Aug 11 05:23
CrystalMathwell i never doAug 11 05:23
CrystalMathi try to make sense of itAug 11 05:23
XRevan86CrystalMath: It is a rename of freenode to Joseon.Aug 11 05:24
XRevan86It's happening.Aug 11 05:24
CrystalMathyesAug 11 05:24
CrystalMathi meanAug 11 05:24
CrystalMathi connectedAug 11 05:24
CrystalMathit says "Welcome to Joseon"Aug 11 05:24
CrystalMathwith Joseon being in ascii art formAug 11 05:24
CrystalMaththe way freenode used to be writtenAug 11 05:24
schestowitz-TRsee?Aug 11 05:24
schestowitz-TReeeAug 11 05:24
MinceRthe screenshots i saw also showed the MOTD refer to freenode in several placesAug 11 05:24
schestowitz-TRnow in third eAug 11 05:24
XRevan86"but it doesn't say it's freenode" – nonsense.Aug 11 05:24
MinceRincluding #freenodeAug 11 05:24
CrystalMathyesAug 11 05:25
schestowitz-TRalso in bncAug 11 05:25
CrystalMaththere is also a #joseonAug 11 05:25
schestowitz-TRit names freeenodeAug 11 05:25
schestowitz-TRthey have not migrated it yetAug 11 05:25
CrystalMathi joined thatAug 11 05:25
schestowitz-TRwait for the fourth eAug 11 05:25
schestowitz-TRexterminateAug 11 05:25
MinceREXTERMINATE!Aug 11 05:25
CrystalMathschestowitz-TR: why after extinguish?Aug 11 05:25
techrights-news#Freenode is Compromised • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/Aug 11 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | TechrightsAug 11 05:26
XRevan86CrystalMath: Trying to make sense of things is great, but it's also important to recognise when an important step is to look at things from an unhealthy perspective.Aug 11 05:26
CrystalMathalso btw it's no longer possible to connect to the old new freenodeAug 11 05:26
schestowitzhttps://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-peopleAug 11 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenodeAug 11 05:26
schestowitzthis just inAug 11 05:26
CrystalMathbecause services are down thereAug 11 05:26
CrystalMathand SASL is required, soAug 11 05:26
CrystalMaththe old servers don't support SASLAug 11 05:26
CrystalMathanymoreAug 11 05:26
CrystalMathbut require itAug 11 05:26
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:26
schestowitzDisable Non-SASL Connections √Aug 11 05:26
schestowitzDisable NICK after connect √Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzOfficially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire √Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzModify nomenclature of IRC servers √Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzReplace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based AuthenticationAug 11 05:27
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzWAug 11 05:27
schestowitzTAug 11 05:27
schestowitzFAug 11 05:27
schestowitz[05:26] <schestowitz> Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire √Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzcrackpot!@Aug 11 05:27
MinceRlolAug 11 05:27
XRevan86schestowitz: That helps decentralisation somehow.Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzbye, freenodeAug 11 05:27
MinceRi linked it a while agoAug 11 05:27
schestowitzyes, I thought it was oldAug 11 05:27
XRevan86Yea, MinceR did.Aug 11 05:27
schestowitzbut I didn't pay close enough attentionAug 11 05:27
MinceR:)Aug 11 05:27
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:28
kingoffranceim not sure how fiat and centralized go togetherAug 11 05:28
schestowitzOnward.Aug 11 05:28
schestowitzYour proud servant,Aug 11 05:28
schestowitzHIH Andrew LeeAug 11 05:28
schestowitzof the Joseon Empire, the oldest nation in the world since 1392Aug 11 05:28
kingoffrancearent they kind of opposite?Aug 11 05:28
schestowitzSpecial thanks to Shane (mrinfinity) for help with the edits.Aug 11 05:28
schestowitz"Aug 11 05:28
schestowitzWTD?Aug 11 05:28
kingoffrance*decentralizedAug 11 05:28
schestowitzYour SERVANT, the IMPERIAL HIGHNESSAug 11 05:28
schestowitzhow does that work?Aug 11 05:28
MinceRsounds very much like a managerAug 11 05:28
XRevan86I'll go sleep now, during all this craziness, after that I'll enjoy taunting the new Joseon population by asking how they feel about their new status.Aug 11 05:28
schestowitzkings are slaves?Aug 11 05:28
MinceRsaying words without understanding what they meanAug 11 05:28
kingoffrancewell, thats saturnalia alchemy my dear schestowitz Aug 11 05:29
kingoffrancebut thats too long a storyAug 11 05:29
schestowitzhahaAug 11 05:29
schestowitzwell, he's toastAug 11 05:29
schestowitzhe can enjoy his <1000 users networkAug 11 05:29
kingoffrancehe did say he was a phoenix rising, who knowsAug 11 05:29
kingoffrancemaybe he does like alchemy lolAug 11 05:29
schestowitzwith dunces jumping ship when they realise they're just there to suck his little peckerAug 11 05:29
schestowitzhe wasted so much of so many people's timeAug 11 05:30
XRevan86kingoffrance: https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Phoenix_KingAug 11 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-avatar.fandom.com | Phoenix King | Avatar Wiki | FandomAug 11 05:30
CrystalMathoh and the cloaks are now joseon/user/accountname :)Aug 11 05:30
XRevan86Maybe that? (:Aug 11 05:30
CrystalMathXRevan86: the cloaks were still freenode for a while but now correctedAug 11 05:30
CrystalMathnew people coming in have joseon cloaksAug 11 05:30
CrystalMathalso maybe it should be joseon/citizen/...Aug 11 05:30
CrystalMathjust sayingAug 11 05:31
XRevan86CrystalMath: Which one does the bridge have?Aug 11 05:31
CrystalMathdid the bridge reconnect?Aug 11 05:31
XRevan86CrystalMath: yesAug 11 05:31
schestowitz-TRirc.com left out that partAug 11 05:31
schestowitz-TRSSO as naturalisation for crackpot nationAug 11 05:31
schestowitz-TRa badge of shameAug 11 05:31
CrystalMathfreenode/user/tr-bridgeAug 11 05:31
CrystalMathhehAug 11 05:31
XRevan86Okay, I'll restart it again.Aug 11 05:31
schestowitz-TRbot nation :-)Aug 11 05:32
XRevan86Don't want it to seem dated :)Aug 11 05:32
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MinceRimperial/subject/tr-bridgeAug 11 05:32
CrystalMathno... hmmm...Aug 11 05:33
CrystalMathyou got freenode/user againAug 11 05:33
CrystalMathsomething's upAug 11 05:33
MinceRwell, it's broken, as usualAug 11 05:33
CrystalMathbut i'm sure it'll be fixed by tomorrowAug 11 05:33
MinceRriiiiiightAug 11 05:33
XRevan86O.K., good night anyway. Or rather, morning. Boy I'm screwing myself…Aug 11 05:33
schestowitzI've just alaerts those still in freenode.netAug 11 05:34
schestowitz URGENT: please connect to our real network: http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/Aug 11 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | TechrightsAug 11 05:34
schestowitzthey might not have much time leftAug 11 05:34
schestowitzsome are not registeredAug 11 05:34
XRevan86I forgot to change the postfix!Aug 11 05:35
Guest91please connect to our real network: http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/Aug 11 05:35
schestowitz1. does it relay there?Aug 11 05:36
schestowitz2. how many users are on the channel there?Aug 11 05:36
schestowitz* Current global users: 8630  Max: 22832Aug 11 05:36
schestowitzin freenode.netAug 11 05:36
MinceRi wonder what happened to #0gAug 11 05:36
schestowitzmaybe shelved for nowAug 11 05:37
MinceRseems nearly empty, but i can't see any notice of having moved eitherAug 11 05:37
schestowitzoliva has other projectsAug 11 05:37
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*irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridgeAug 11 05:37
schestowitzsadly some people still have things configured to connect to FN and LCAug 11 05:38
schestowitzwith entry into unofficial channelsAug 11 05:38
schestowitzwhich could in theory because a liability by impersonationAug 11 05:38
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't want to make a trial bridge as it will for sure break when the netsplit is over.Aug 11 05:43
XRevan86The last time that worked extremely poorly.Aug 11 05:43
XRevan86> 2. how many users are on the channel there?Aug 11 05:44
XRevan86schestowitz: A question for CrystalMath, the bridge doesn't tell me.Aug 11 05:44
XRevan86> 1. does it relay there?Aug 11 05:44
XRevan86schestowitz: That I just don't understand. Of course it relays to somewhere, right? :)Aug 11 05:45
XRevan86The messages from there will now be marked not as "fn" but as "jn". Should be extra-annoying :)Aug 11 05:46
schestowitz-TRoh/Aug 11 05:47
CrystalMathyes it works XRevan86 Aug 11 05:48
schestowitzhow many people there?Aug 11 05:48
CrystalMath90-ishAug 11 05:48
CrystalMathon the whole network, you mean?Aug 11 05:48
XRevan86CrystalMath: What works? It being extra-annoying?Aug 11 05:49
CrystalMath/jnhere there's only me and tr-bridgeAug 11 05:50
CrystalMath/jnalso ChanServ as the channel is properly registered and the topic is correctAug 11 05:50
CrystalMath/jnwell not quite correct, you see.. it says "Freenode"Aug 11 05:50
CrystalMath/jnshould be changed to "Joseon"Aug 11 05:50
schestowitz-TRhaAug 11 05:51
schestowitz-TRone-user channelAug 11 05:51
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: Aug 11 05:51
schestowitz-TRone citizen of alt-koreaAug 11 05:51
CrystalMath/jnTechrights.org IRC discussions @ JoseonAug 11 05:51
schestowitz-TRwith 'king pizzagate'Aug 11 05:51
CrystalMaththe bridge is also there :PAug 11 05:52
XRevan86It probably brings a significant amount of activity into Joseon.Aug 11 05:52
schestowitz-TRis there a troll under bridge?Aug 11 05:52
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: the server will crash soonAug 11 05:52
schestowitz-TRshells Aug 11 05:52
schestowitz-TRshells game :-)Aug 11 05:52
XRevan86schestowitz: It will be shelled?Aug 11 05:53
schestowitz-TRshell out for me another serverAug 11 05:53
schestowitz-TRwe are oveprovisioned hereAug 11 05:53
schestowitz-TRwe only need one-coce CPU and 100MB or RAM, broAug 11 05:53
schestowitz-TR*of *coreAug 11 05:54
XRevan86schestowitz: Also, this move to become Joseon will force everyone to reconnect probably today, meaning that we will get accurate user numbers soon.Aug 11 05:54
schestowitz-TRmore trolls under 'bridge'?Aug 11 05:55
XRevan86DALnet is going to be bigger than Joseon I strongly suspect.Aug 11 05:56
schestowitz-TRdoes dalnet have territory?Aug 11 05:56
XRevan86schestowitz: Virtually none.Aug 11 05:57
XRevan86I like how "jn" looks like a twisted version of "fn", gives the postfix some character.Aug 11 05:58
CrystalMathJoseon is better shortened to js isn't it?Aug 11 06:00
CrystalMathbecause of the korean charactersAug 11 06:00
schestowitz-TRit doesn't matterAug 11 06:00
schestowitz-TRit's a jokeAug 11 06:00
XRevan86CrystalMath: Technically, yes, but "jn" makes more intuitive sense to an English eye.Aug 11 06:02
techrights-newsPresumption of #Patent Invalidity in #Europe http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-patent-invalidity/ #epo #corruption #swpatsAug 11 06:04
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techrights-news#OSI has brought Betsy Waliszewski onboard. Betsy: "Microsoft has been a Keystone PyCon sponsor for the past 3 years and is now proud to become a Visionary Sponsor" (the OSI's GM also raised money from #mirosoft so OSI is defunct)Aug 11 06:11
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techrights-news#OSI is promoter of #ProprietarySoftware with #openwashing angle/slantAug 11 06:16
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techrights-news#OSI objective in 2021: protect #ProprietarySoftware #monopolies (justified by #openwashing with proprietary recommendations) while attacking #softwareFreedom advocates like #fsf http://techrights.org/category/osi/Aug 11 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI | TechrightsAug 11 06:19
techrights-news#OSI 2019-2020: OSI co-founder left, other OSI co-founder banned by corporate coup plotters, GM of OSI resigns (he's sole member of staff!), now they cannot even run an election. OSI is zombie/dead (zombie as in controlled remotely by hostile elements like #microsft !) http://techrights.org/category/osi/Aug 11 06:21
schestowitz* isak has quit (*.net *.split)Aug 11 06:28
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schestowitzminutes agoAug 11 06:28
schestowitzI assume some won't be able to come back onlineAug 11 06:28
schestowitzsome people will lose online friends foreverAug 11 06:29
schestowitzbecause of the crank with delusions of grandeurAug 11 06:29
schestowitz* Current global users: 7694  Max: 22832Aug 11 06:30
schestowitzfreenodeAug 11 06:30
schestowitzCrystalMath: can you run the command /lusers    (in  leenode)?Aug 11 06:30
schestowitzlet's see what the total sum isAug 11 06:30
CrystalMathschestowitz: i was disconnected from the old oneAug 11 06:30
CrystalMath359 on joseonAug 11 06:30
schestowitzoh goshAug 11 06:30
CrystalMathservers are being delinked from the old oneAug 11 06:31
CrystalMathand it's not possible to return to itAug 11 06:31
schestowitz359+ 7694, just over 8000 leftAug 11 06:31
CrystalMathbecause SASL is disabledAug 11 06:31
CrystalMath(because no services)Aug 11 06:31
CrystalMathbut SASL is also requiredAug 11 06:31
schestowitzso he only managed to convince like a few hundreds people to enter his kingdomAug 11 06:31
schestowitzby tricking them with domains aliasedAug 11 06:31
techrights-news#freenode is now below 8000 usersAug 11 06:32
techrights-newsTime for everybody to move to irc.techrights.org, the only official IRC network for #Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/Aug 11 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | TechrightsAug 11 06:33
techrights-newsIt’s becoming harder to successfully enforce European #Patents in courts because today’s #EPO is granting patents that aren’t valid, or monopolies that should never have been issued in the first place • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-patent-invalidity/ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption| ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-patent-invalidity/Aug 11 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Presumption of Patent Invalidity in Europe | TechrightsAug 11 06:34
CrystalMathschestowitz: well i mean, joseon is climbingAug 11 06:34
CrystalMathso farAug 11 06:34
CrystalMathit probably will be stableAug 11 06:34
techrights-newsAfter killing off a network with almost 100,000 online users Andrew Lee has only managed to trick 390 or so people (some of them are bots, not people) into his vanity network http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/Aug 11 06:35
CrystalMathhey, i connected willinglyAug 11 06:40
CrystalMathi wasn't trickedAug 11 06:40
CrystalMathXRevan86: servers are named after historic rulersAug 11 06:56
CrystalMathschestowitz: joseon at 500Aug 11 07:01
schestowitz-TRstill lowAug 11 07:02
schestowitz-TRsome of them are asleepAug 11 07:02
schestowitz-TRfell off the freenode networkAug 11 07:02
schestowitz-TRforciblyAug 11 07:02
schestowitz-TRthen connection reattemptedAug 11 07:02
schestowitz-TRand they hop into something they never wanted to even jopinAug 11 07:02
schestowitz-TRCrystalMath: is there  a server called kim?Aug 11 07:03
schestowitz-TRhow about stalinAug 11 07:03
schestowitz-TRvery strong leaderAug 11 07:03
schestowitz-TReven a little too strong :-DAug 11 07:03
schestowitzI think we have completed our transition to just one IRC server (consolidation to due to Freenode being compromised and taken over by a megalomaniacAug 11 07:06
schestowitz* Current global users: 6153  Max: 22832Aug 11 07:06
schestowitzyayAug 11 07:06
schestowitzCrystalMath: joseon up 150 usersAug 11 07:06
schestowitzfreenode down by 1500Aug 11 07:06
schestowitzso make that one in 10Aug 11 07:06
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schestowitzby the time they drain out 9k in freenode maybe joseon will be left with 900Aug 11 07:07
techrights-newsIt looks like within a day #freenosde will be left with BARELY 1,000 online users, judging by the very low conversion rates we see at both sides (old and new domain/network) at the moment. That's losing 99% of users in ONLY 3 MONTHS!!!Aug 11 07:08
techrights-newsWith only 6,000 users still left in #freenode merely 500 have been moved to the new network. By the time they complete the migration they'd be lucky to keep over 1,000 online. #irc #internet #joseon #failAug 11 07:10
schestowitz-TRI've just done a video that covers some of the IRC dramaAug 11 07:10
schestowitz-TRbut is mostly about EPOAug 11 07:10
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schestowitz-TRI bet Lee is very high on drugs at the momentAug 11 07:11
schestowitz-TRto calm him down as freenode falls to 5,000 users and his little virtual island amasses just 500 usersAug 11 07:11
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schestowitzthey drop like fliesAug 11 07:12
psydruidnot everyone can get status in the empire of joseonAug 11 07:13
schestowitzlies!!Aug 11 07:19
schestowitzhttps://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-peopleAug 11 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenodeAug 11 07:20
*job (~job@y2ppfmhyw72zs.irc) has joined #techrightsAug 11 07:20
schestowitz"We welcome everyone in the entire world who wishes for liberty and financial equality to come join us"Aug 11 07:20
schestowitzprivate clubAug 11 07:20
schestowitzfor worships of the emperorAug 11 07:20
schestowitzand for the worshipersAug 11 07:20
schestowitzwho got tricked by a domain alias/linkAug 11 07:20
schestowitzthey have their client connect to chat.freenode.netAug 11 07:20
schestowitzlike activelow said,Aug 11 07:20
schestowitzhe said phishingAug 11 07:20
schestowitzI call it domain hijackingAug 11 07:21
schestowitzhe uses a domain hundreds of thousands connect toAug 11 07:21
schestowitzto basically funnel traffic to his vanity nameAug 11 07:21
schestowitzwhat a SCAMAug 11 07:21
techrights-newsEven the Uganda Peoples Congress (UPC) has more credibility than the illegal and unconstitutional #UnifiedPatentCourt https://www.monitor.co.ug/uganda/news/national/upc-in-fresh-court-battle-over-leadership-3329908 #upc #teamupc #unitarypatentAug 11 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.monitor.co.ug | UPC in fresh court battle over leadership - Daily MonitorAug 11 07:25
techrights-news#belarus under #lukashenko is an East European #NorthKorea (you have to keep people from escaping) https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/lithuania-begins-building-barrier-on-border-with-belarus-to-block-migrants/articleshow/84264460.cmsAug 11 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Lithuania begins building barrier on border with Belarus to block migrants - Times of IndiaAug 11 07:27
techrights-news#corporateMedia owned by people with financial investment in business estate: it's over, we're winning against COVID. Reality (even worse than last summer): https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/dutch-to-reimpose-some-covid-19-curbs-as-cases-rise/articleshow/84265774.cmsAug 11 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Dutch Lockdown News: Dutch to reimpose some Covid-19 curbs as cases rise | World News - Times of IndiaAug 11 07:29
schestowitz-TRto calm him down as freenode falls to 5,000 users and his little virtual island amasses just 500 usersAug 11 07:30
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CrystalMathschestowitz-TR: 600 nowAug 11 07:41
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schestowitz-TRonly 5000 left in freenode.netAug 11 07:42
schestowitz-TRassumung for each 1000 he can get 100, make that well under 2000 usersAug 11 07:42
schestowitz-TRwithin a day or lessAug 11 07:42
schestowitz<my draft:Aug 11 07:42
schestowitz "HIS morning we published a couple of articles about the <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO" title="EPO">EPO</a> and we also moaned about the final blow to Freenode, which will probably have no more than 2,000 users left within a day or two (3 months ago it had almost 100,000 simultaneous/online users)."Aug 11 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsAug 11 07:42
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Hackaday #BSD ☞ #FreeBSD Experiment Rethinks The OS Install https://hackaday.com/2021/08/10/freebsd-experiment-rethinks-the-os-install/Aug 11 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD Experiment Rethinks The OS Install | HackadayAug 11 07:51
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ComputerWorld #Mozilla ☞ As Mozilla talks up #Firefox 's future, the present is killing it https://www.computerworld.com/article/3628338/as-mozilla-talks-up-firefoxs-future-the-present-is-killing-it.htmlAug 11 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As Mozilla talks up Firefox's future, the present is killing it | ComputerworldAug 11 07:51
techrights-news● NEWS ● #DanLangille #Hardware ☞ I bought a new #nvme drive – or did I? https://dan.langille.org/2021/08/09/i-bought-a-new-nvme-drive-or-did-i/Aug 11 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | I bought a new nvme drive – or did I? – Dan Langille's Other DiaryAug 11 07:52
techrights-news#freenode is rapidly being reduced to rubble by a crypto charlatan with insecurity complexAug 11 07:53
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Amazon awarded secret $10B #NSA #clowncomputing contract: report https://thehill.com/policy/technology/567206-amazon-awarded-secret-10b-nsa-cloud-computing-contract-report no bailout for #microsoftAug 11 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract: report | TheHillAug 11 07:56
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Nextgov #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #NSA Awards Secret $10 Billion Contract to #Amazon https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2021/08/nsa-awards-secret-10-billion-contract-amazon/184390/ #microsoft falls further behind and defrauds shareholdersAug 11 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSA Awards Secret $10 Billion Contract to Amazon - NextgovAug 11 07:56
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Now #Microsoft is protesting after Amazon won a $10 billion #NSA cloud contract https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/10/22618764/nsa-10-billion-microsoft-aws-cloud-services-protest #Microsoft = #fraud and #azure layoffsAug 11 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon beat out Microsoft for a $10 billion NSA cloud contract - The VergeAug 11 07:56
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Apple’s controversial new child [sic] protection [sic] features, explained https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/10/22613225/apple-csam-scanning-messages-child-safety-features-privacy-controversy-explained nany state #appleAug 11 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple’s controversial new child protection features, explained - The VergeAug 11 07:57
schestowitz* Current global users: 3971  Max: 22832Aug 11 07:59
techrights-newsOnly 3900 users left in #freenode now. Wow. It was 90,000+ just a few months ago. #ircAug 11 08:00
techrights-newsThe 'new' #freenode will have in it just as many users as some old CHANNELS (not networks) in Freenode used to have!Aug 11 08:01
techrights-news● NEWS ● #NYOB #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ noyb files 422 formal #GDPR complaints on nerve-wrecking “Cookie Banners” https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-422-formal-gdpr-complaints-nerve-wrecking-cookie-bannersAug 11 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | noyb files 422 formal GDPR complaints on nerve-wrecking “Cookie Banners”Aug 11 08:05
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Axios #Surveillance #Privacy ☞ #Facebook 's #accountability bind https://www.axios.com/facebooks-accountability-bind-nyu-researcher-ban-1e352a0f-b1f8-4d79-b460-9db2515171c9.htmlAug 11 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook's accountability bind - AxiosAug 11 08:05
techrights-news● NEWS ● #USENIX #Confidentiality ☞ Why TLS is better without STARTTLS: A Security Analysis of #STARTTLS in the Email Context https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity21/presentation/poddebniakAug 11 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usenix.org | Why TLS is better without STARTTLS: A Security Analysis of STARTTLS in the Email Context | USENIXAug 11 08:06
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▃▄▅▄▆▅▃▂▇▁▁▃▅▆▃▄▂▅▅▅▅▄▆▆▂▄▅▃▄▅▂▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 18.48 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▃██▁▂▁██▁▂▂▇▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂█▂▂▂▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 95.05▕ swarm size (avg): 275.27  ⟲Aug 11 08:07
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Salon #Politics ☞ #Facebook stonewalls #Biden on stopping vaccine disinformation — because right-wing lies are enriching https://www.salon.com/2021/08/10/facebook-stonewalls-biden-on-stopping-vaccine-disinformation-&#45;because-right-wing-lies-are-enriching/Aug 11 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.salon.com/2021/08/10/facebook-stonewalls-biden-on-stopping-vaccine-disinformation-&/ )Aug 11 08:07
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheReboot #Disinformation #Misinformation ☞ How Misinformation Spreads Online https://thereboot.com/super-spreader-how-misinformation-takes-root/Aug 11 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thereboot.com | How Misinformation Spreads Online - The RebootAug 11 08:08
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RTL ☞ #Facebook shuts down anti-vaccine influencer campaign https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1768778.htmlAug 11 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - False claims: Facebook shuts down anti-vaccine influencer campaignAug 11 08:08
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheJakartaPostID #Censorship ☞ #Instagram removes poster for new #Almodovar film https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2021/08/10/instagram-removes-poster-for-new-almodovar-film.htmlAug 11 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thejakartapost.com | Instagram removes poster for new Almodovar film - Entertainment - The Jakarta PostAug 11 08:11
techrights-news● NEWS ● #ArtDaily #Censorship ☞ #Instagram removes poster for new #Almodovar film https://artdaily.com/news/138303/Instagram-removes-poster-for-new-Almodovar-filmAug 11 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://artdaily.com/news/138303/Instagram-removes-poster-for-new-Almodovar-film )Aug 11 08:12
techrights-newsOnly 2446 users left in #freenode now. Oh, the bloodbath. #ircAug 11 08:14
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ #Twitter Suspends #MarjorieTaylorGreene for 1 Week Over False Vaccine Claims https://truthout.org/articles/twitter-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greene-for-1-week-over-false-vaccine-claims/ while Twitter takes money from an equally bad person: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/Aug 11 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Twitter Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene for 1 Week Over False Vaccine ClaimsAug 11 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for ‘Perception Management’ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | TechrightsAug 11 08:14
schestowitz-TRI wonder how many people are on joseon nowAug 11 08:15
schestowitz-TRfreenode is almost empty alreadyAug 11 08:15
schestowitz-TRcrystal went offlineAug 11 08:15
schestowitz-TRmaybe to avoid the embarassment Aug 11 08:15
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schestowitz[08:18] [Info] Server found, connecting...Aug 11 08:19
schestowitz[08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** Looking up your ident...Aug 11 08:19
schestowitz[08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** Looking up your hostname...Aug 11 08:19
schestowitz[08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** You must use TLS/SSL and authenticate via SASL to connect to freenode please visit https://irc.com/login/sso in order to create an account. SASL Configuration: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl - Webchat: https://webchat.freenode.net/Aug 11 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com LoginAug 11 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Connecting with SASL - freenodeAug 11 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.freenode.net | Kiwi IRCAug 11 08:19
schestowitz[08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** Could not resolve your hostname: Domain not found; using your IP address (2a00:23c4:c383:c901:f203:8cff:fe93:1f55) instead.Aug 11 08:19
schestowitz[08:19] [Error] Connection to server chat.freenode.net (port 6667)Aug 11 08:19
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techrights-newsDisable #freenode in your IRC client. Because they already hijack the domain to link to another domain. Basically tricking people.Aug 11 08:20
techrights-news#freenode falls below 2,000 users shortly. Make sure you remove it from the #irc client. It's not FREENODE anymore. The domain is being routed to a crypto charlatan's site.Aug 11 08:23
schestowitzXRevan86: are the channels registered in the new network?Aug 11 08:25
schestowitzor, iow, they they transport the users+channels DB over?Aug 11 08:25
schestowitzor did they flush it down the toilet yet again?Aug 11 08:25
schestowitz(I know you are asleep, but this question isn't urgent)Aug 11 08:25
schestowitzthey have disconnected one client of mine, and it's being routed to another domain without consentAug 11 08:26
schestowitzIRC clients ought to warn about such behaviourAug 11 08:26
schestowitzas it can be suggestive of forgeryAug 11 08:26
schestowitzwherein you might even send a password to the wrong network/actorAug 11 08:26
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux #☞ Deter package thieves from your porch with Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/deter-package-thieves-from-your-porch-with-raspberry-pi/Aug 11 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Deter package thieves from your porch with Raspberry Pi - Raspberry PiAug 11 08:28
techrights-news● NEWS ● #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux ☞ TOFU for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/tofu-for-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4/Aug 11 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | TOFU for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 - Raspberry PiAug 11 08:29
techrights-news'new' #freenode = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JucheAug 11 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Juche - WikipediaAug 11 08:30
schestowitzall my clients have been disconnectedAug 11 08:33
schestowitzno more freenodeAug 11 08:33
schestowitzwithout as much as a warningAug 11 08:33
schestowitzaAug 11 08:33
schestowitza noticeAug 11 08:33
schestowitzor a timelineAug 11 08:33
schestowitz2am Aug 11 08:33
schestowitzsome crazy post in freenode.net, a raveAug 11 08:33
schestowitzand you wake up to a disconnected clientAug 11 08:34
schestowitzat least we have a bridge thereAug 11 08:34
schestowitzbut judging by the lack of input from it, I reckon almost nobody is thereAug 11 08:34
schestowitzjust bridge and crystalmathAug 11 08:34
techrights-news#freenode has pretty much been decommissioned by now. And replaced or hijacked. RIP, Freenode. Date of death: 11/8/2021.Aug 11 08:36
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Tor ☞ New Release: #TorBrowser 10.5.4 (Windows, macOS, Linux) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1054Aug 11 08:41
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #Finance ☞ Since 1978, CEO Pay Has Risen 1,322%. Typical Worker Pay? Just 18% https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/10/1978-ceo-pay-has-risen-1322-typical-worker-pay-just-18Aug 11 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Since 1978, CEO Pay Has Risen 1,322%. Typical Worker Pay? Just 18% | Common Dreams NewsAug 11 08:41
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Rightscorp Site Triggers Security Warnings and Links to Cannabis Site https://torrentfreak.com/rightscorp-site-triggers-security-warnings-and-links-to-cannabis-site-210810/Aug 11 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rightscorp Site Triggers Security Warnings and Links to Cannabis Site * TorrentFreakAug 11 08:42
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #RIAA ☞ Court Dismisses Yout.com #DMCA Circumvention Lawsuit Against RIAA, For Now https://torrentfreak.com/court-dismisses-yout-com-dmca-circumvention-lawsuit-against-riaa-210810/Aug 11 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Dismisses Yout.com DMCA Circumvention Lawsuit Against RIAA, For Now * TorrentFreakAug 11 08:42
techrights-news● NEWS ● #EFF ☞ O (no!) Canada: Fast-moving proposal creates filtering, blocking and reporting rules—and speech police to enforce them https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/o-no-canada-fast-moving-proposal-creates-filtering-blocking-and-reporting-rules-1Aug 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | O (no!) Canada: Fast-moving proposal creates filtering, blocking and reporting rules—and speech police to enforce them | Electronic Frontier FoundationAug 11 08:43
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.actionsack.com/fcassia/status/1425359084820340740#mAug 11 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | Fernando Cassia 💚🧡 (@fcassia): "What's wrong with efnet? I always used http://IRC.prison.net Never understood what the fuss was about w freenet 🤷‍♂️ http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers" | nitterAug 11 08:46
techrights-news#Freenode is Now Dead. But is the #EPO Too ‘Dead Man Walking’? When Rogues Are Left in Charge… http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/rogues-in-charge/ #patents #irc #corruptionAug 11 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Now Dead. But is the EPO Too ‘Dead Man Walking’? When Rogues Are Left in Charge… | TechrightsAug 11 08:52
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techrights-newsNow we know that irc dot com and that app are just a dick-sucking exercise of Lee, they're not access points for #ircAug 11 09:00
techrights-news[Meme] Restoring Peace by Spending 6 Million Euros to Fight Staff in Court (Approved by the EPO’s Administrative Council) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-suicide-plan/ #epo #europe #corruption #patents #iloatAug 11 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Restoring Peace by Spending 6 Million Euros to Fight Staff in Court (Approved by the EPO’s Administrative Council) | TechrightsAug 11 09:04
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▄▃▃▄▅▂▅▄▄▄▅▃▅▂▄▅▄▅▄▆▄▂▁▄▅▁▂▃▄▄▅▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 16.65 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂█▁▂█▁▂▃▁▂▃▁▂▅▃▂▁▂▁█▁▁▂▃▁▁▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 66.33▕ swarm size (avg): 275.19  ⟲Aug 11 09:07
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #KrebsOnSecurity ☞ #Microsoft Patch Tuesday, August 2021 Edition https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/08/microsoft-patch-tuesday-august-2021-edition/ #security is NOT the goal: techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAAug 11 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Microsoft Patch Tuesday, August 2021 Edition – Krebs on SecurityAug 11 10:02
Noisytoot* Topic for #freenode is: Welcome to freenode, the digital territory of the Joseon Empire, the oldest nation in the world since 1392. | For help, type /join #help or go to the #help channel | https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-peopleAug 11 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenodeAug 11 10:25
Noisytoot* Topic for #freenode set by root (Wed Aug 11 04:58:34 2021)Aug 11 10:25
Noisytootnew freenode (joseon) motd: https://x0.at/nlWI.txtAug 11 10:26
schestowitz-TRNoisytoot: crackpotAug 11 10:28
Noisytoot* Topic for #joseon is: [-=Joseon Empire=-] Sovereign territory of the Joseon Empire, since 1392.Aug 11 10:28
Noisytoot* Topic for #joseon set by root!~root@freenode/user/root (Wed Aug 11 03:05:22 2021)Aug 11 10:28
Noisytootfreenode has existed since 1392?Aug 11 10:28
Noisytoot"Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication"Aug 11 10:29
Noisytoot* Current global users: 1097  Max: 1098Aug 11 10:30
schestowitz-TRNoisytoot: like I said, crackpotAug 11 10:30
schestowitz-TR"Joseon Empire"Aug 11 10:30
schestowitz-TRsomething that does not existAug 11 10:30
schestowitz-TRbut is "EMPIRE"Aug 11 10:30
schestowitz-TRsome very strong drugsAug 11 10:30
techrights-news#OpenSourceInitiative is a Corporate Front Group Looking for Money From Opponents of Software Freedom • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/osi-monopolies/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/osi-monopolies/Aug 11 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative is a Corporate Front Group Looking for Money From Opponents of Software Freedom | TechrightsAug 11 10:45
techrights-newsProf. #Moglen at #OSCON , Speaking to O’Reilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSWAug 11 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Prof. Moglen at OSCON, Speaking to O’Reilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) | TechrightsAug 11 11:06
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DaemonFCschestowitz, T-Mobile blocks wireguard now, and openvpn over udp.Aug 11 11:36
DaemonFCSeems to allow openvpn over tcp though.Aug 11 11:36
NoisytootDo they block IPSec?Aug 11 11:43
DaemonFCNot sure.Aug 11 11:43
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superkuhTook you long enough to realize it. It was grossly apparent back in May.Aug 11 12:38
superkuhI guess it's hard to see things you don't want to see.Aug 11 12:39
superkuhAnd by restricting yourself to your own IRC server you're just going to die the slow death of any social system without network effect.Aug 11 12:40
techrights-news#billgates acting like there's possibly an indictment coming and he uses media to shape the narrative for legal reasons https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-mistake-cnn-interview/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueAug 11 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | It’s No “Mistake” That Bill Gates Was Palling Around With Jeffrey EpsteinAug 11 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - TechrightsAug 11 12:40
techrights-news#michaelwolff #trump https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-michael-wolff-book-1206443/Aug 11 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | How Rudy Giuliani Stoked Trump's 2020 Election Insanity - Rolling StoneAug 11 12:40
superkuhJust come back to the real freenode, schestowitz, it's here on libera.Aug 11 12:41
superkuhNow that you no longer believe in Lee's cult of personality you can abandon the false claims against Libera you put up to save face.Aug 11 12:41
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Oversight Unable To Discover Which #FBI Agents Leaked #Clinton Investigation Info Because Goddamn Everyone Was Leaking Stuff https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210806/15413047318/oversight-unable-to-discover-which-fbi-agents-leaked-clinton-investigation-info-because-goddamn-everyone-was-leaking-stuff.shtmlAug 11 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oversight Unable To Discover Which FBI Agents Leaked Clinton Investigation Info Because Goddamn Everyone Was Leaking Stuff | TechdirtAug 11 12:43
superkuhOr... you can stick to them, and idle in obscurity.Aug 11 12:43
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techrights-news"Protect the open web at all costs." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106726791018124794Aug 11 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "(Dear policymakers, are you listening?)" - Aral’s MastodonAug 11 12:49
techrights-news"Yes, "we should do better" is a reference to Zuck's reaction when he was asked in US Congress what FB was going to do in order to NOT facilitate another *genocide*." https://x0f.org/@FreePietje/106728520135623478Aug 11 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x0f.org | Free Pietje: "Yes, "we should do better" is a reference to Zuck…" - unidentified instanceAug 11 12:52
techrights-news"I feel sorry for people who think that signing a petition/letter is going to make any difference. Has it ever? It's like people who tweet #DeleteFacebook but not actually delete their FB account." https://x0f.org/@FreePietje/106728495350260247Aug 11 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x0f.org | Free Pietje: "I feel sorry for people who think that signing a …" - unidentified instanceAug 11 12:53
techrights-newsElementary OS 6 Odin Released! Here’s What’s New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30510Aug 11 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux MachinesAug 11 12:57
techrights-newsEssential System Tools: dust – more intuitive version of du • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154388Aug 11 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential System Tools: dust – more intuitive version of du | Tux MachinesAug 11 12:58
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154389 #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 12:58
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt #Finance ☞ The End Of Ownership: How Big Companies Are Trying To Turn Everyone Into Renters https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210808/17000347325/end-ownership-how-big-companies-are-trying-to-turn-everyone-into-renters.shtmlAug 11 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The End Of Ownership: How Big Companies Are Trying To Turn Everyone Into Renters | TechdirtAug 11 13:05
techrights-news● NEWS ● #TheNation #sport #censorship ☞ Despite the Ban, Protest Emerges at the #Olympics https://www.thenation.com/article/society/raven-saunders-olympics-protest/Aug 11 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Despite the Ban, Protest Emerges at the Olympics | The NationAug 11 13:06
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▅▅█▅▅▄▄▅▃▄▃▃▄▂▇▂▃▅▆▆▄▅▆▇▅▄▂▆▂▂▁▂▂▆▃▄▂▁ avg(k/sec) 19.88 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂█▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▃▄▁█▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂██▂▃▁▂██▁ avg(k/sec) 84.53▕ swarm size (avg): 275.07  ⟲Aug 11 13:07
Guest91one negative does not make any alternative a positiveAug 11 13:08
Guest91if you support techrights, you will want the IRC networks not to be controlled by a third partyAug 11 13:09
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Guest91#techrights at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it)Aug 11 13:10
superkuhI'm a big fan of self hosting. I do it for all my stuff that isn't explicitly dependent on the network effect... like real time chat.Aug 11 13:11
superkuhI'm currently unaware of anything done by libera staff that is bad.Aug 11 13:11
Guest91so come and join usAug 11 13:11
Guest91fragmenting our comms would not helpAug 11 13:11
superkuhSo all that time on actual freenode was a mistake?Aug 11 13:12
superkuhAnd you should've ignored the network effect and been self hosting only all that time?Aug 11 13:12
Guest91we moved ages agoAug 11 13:12
superkuhI'm talking pre-Lee.Aug 11 13:12
Guest91we just didn't move where you wanetedAug 11 13:12
DaemonFChttps://www.tweaktown.com/news/81066/gigabyte-servers-hacked-112gb-of-secret-data-from-amd-intel-leaked/index.htmlAug 11 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GIGABYTE servers hacked: 112GB of secret data from AMD, Intel leaked | TweakTownAug 11 13:12
Guest91we actually planned to go self-hosted last yearAug 11 13:13
superkuhTo me it sure seemed like you only moved because Freenode got taken over and you went for a ride with Lee then realized you were wrong and now don't want to admit it.Aug 11 13:13
Guest91no, we had been on freenode since 2008Aug 11 13:13
superkuhExactly.Aug 11 13:13
superkuhTo be clear, when I speak about post-lee freenode I'll refer to it as leenode. Any time I use freenode I'm referring to pre-lee.Aug 11 13:14
Guest91our channels are very activeAug 11 13:14
Guest91more than beforeAug 11 13:14
Guest91come and join usAug 11 13:14
Guest91(I do appreciate that you did try to help us, in another way)Aug 11 13:15
superkuhI've tried, but when I went before it was just people talking shit about libera and how freenode was great.Aug 11 13:15
superkuhI guess that's over now.Aug 11 13:15
techrights-news● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #wikileaks ☞ On Eve of Hearing, Amnesty Again Demands US End Effort to Extradite #Assange https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/10/eve-hearing-amnesty-again-demands-us-end-effort-extradite-assangeAug 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | On Eve of Hearing, Amnesty Again Demands US End Effort to Extradite Assange | Common Dreams NewsAug 11 13:15
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techrights-news● NEWS ● #meduza #ru #russia ☞ YouTuber Yuri #Khovansky added to Russia’s terrorism blacklist https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/08/10/youtuber-yuri-khovansky-added-to-russia-s-terrorism-blacklistAug 11 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEAug 11 13:16
schestowitz-TR0/Aug 11 13:16
schestowitz-TRsuperkuh: many long times hereAug 11 13:16
superkuh\oAug 11 13:16
schestowitz-TRnetwork effect is for lurkers a lot of the timeAug 11 13:16
superkuhEh... I don't think so.Aug 11 13:16
schestowitz-TR*timersAug 11 13:16
schestowitz-TRit boilds down to how you get foundAug 11 13:17
schestowitz-TRthough networkAug 11 13:17
schestowitz-TRthrough siteAug 11 13:17
schestowitz-TRand more importantlyAug 11 13:17
schestowitz-TRthe nature of the arrivalAug 11 13:17
schestowitz-TRlast year we had a bunch of unwanted qanon l00ns landing inAug 11 13:17
schestowitz-TRand they did not have much of value to contributeAug 11 13:18
schestowitz-TRso to keep s/n ratio high we've split into more pertinent channelsAug 11 13:18
schestowitz-TRthere's now #techpol for politicsAug 11 13:18
schestowitz-TRwe also have some ircv3 featuresAug 11 13:18
schestowitz-TRtry:Aug 11 13:18
superkuhSounds good.Aug 11 13:18
schestowitz-TR   /history #techrights 1hAug 11 13:18
techrights-news● NEWS ● #FAIR #PressFreedom ☞ Jailing of a British Blogger Should Worry Journalists on Both Sides of the Atlantic https://fair.org/uncategorized/jailing-of-a-british-blogger-should-worry-journalists-on-both-sides-of-the-atlantic/Aug 11 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Jailing of a British Blogger Should Worry Journalists on Both Sides of the Atlantic Aug 11 13:21
techrights-news● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ It Happened Again: Antipiracy [sic] Outfit Asks #Google To Delist 127.0.0.1 On Behalf Of #Ukrainie TV Station https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210810/10015447334/it-happened-again-antipiracy-outfit-asks-google-to-delist-127001-behalf-ukrainian-tv-station.shtmlAug 11 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It Happened Again: Antipiracy Outfit Asks Google To Delist 127.0.0.1 On Behalf Of Ukrainian TV Station | TechdirtAug 11 13:22
techrights-news"One of the great warrant exceptions is the "inventory search." Stop a car in a high-traffic or "high crime" area, and officers will feel compelled to tow it away." https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210731/22282447279/tenth-circuit-says-pretextual-inventory-searches-need-to-be-whole-lot-less-pretextual.shtmlAug 11 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tenth Circuit Says Pretextual Inventory Searches Need To Be A Whole Lot Less Pretextual | TechdirtAug 11 13:24
techrights-newsJust remove the #patents instead https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/10/groups-congress-include-34-billion-global-vaccine-production-35-trillion-budget-plan #patent #monopolies #artificialscarcity #monopolyAug 11 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Groups to Congress: Include $34 Billion for Global Vaccine Production in $3.5 Trillion Budget Plan | Common Dreams NewsAug 11 13:26
techrights-news𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/irc-log-100821/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/irc-log-100821/Aug 11 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 | TechrightsAug 11 13:28
techrights-newsOrange Man‘s plan for the EPO is a suicide plan; he has not done anything at all about Benoît Battistelli‘s abuses (instead he covers them up) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-suicide-plan/ ䷉ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #ILOAT | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-suicide-plan/Aug 11 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Restoring Peace by Spending 6 Million Euros to Fight Staff in Court (Approved by the EPO’s Administrative Council) | TechrightsAug 11 13:29
techrights-newsA video regarding part 5 of the series about the# EPO ’s Administrative Council and our transition to just one #IRC server (consolidation due to #Freenode being compromised and taken over by a destructive megalomaniac) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/rogues-in-charge/Aug 11 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Now Dead. But is the EPO Too ‘Dead Man Walking’? When Rogues Are Left in Charge… | TechrightsAug 11 13:31
techrights-newsThe corporate coup against #softwarefreedom has enlisted another person to deepen the coup with corporate fund-raising (more strings, becoming indebted to #surveillance firms and #monopolie s, hiding behind the "open" banner) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/osi-monopolies/Aug 11 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative is a Corporate Front Group Looking for Money From Opponents of Software Freedom | TechrightsAug 11 13:32
techrights-newsNeither. #ProprietarySoftare isn't good for children. It is not good for grownups, either. #microsoft #monopoly https://www.maketecheasier.com/minecraft-vs-roblox/Aug 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Minecraft vs. Roblox: Which Is Best for You or Your Child? - Make Tech EasierAug 11 13:33
techrights-news#moglen versus #web20 "hooey" • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/Aug 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Prof. Moglen at OSCON, Speaking to O’Reilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) | TechrightsAug 11 13:33
techrights-newsValve breaks the curse! - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Bs3UlT8WjcA ䷉ #video #invidious #multimedia #gnu #linuxAug 11 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Valve breaks the curse! - InvidiousAug 11 13:37
techrights-newsWhich GNU/Linux Distro For Gaming? Q2 2021 Survey Results - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/which-linux-distro-for-gaming-q2-2021-survey-results/ ䷉ #boilingsteam #gnu #linuxAug 11 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Which Linux Distro For Gaming? Q2 2021 Survey Results - Boiling SteamAug 11 13:37
techrights-news#Polychromatic 0.7 Released With Improved UI For Configuring Gaming Keyboards, Mice - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Polychromatic-0.7 #deletegithub #ProprietarySoftware #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_GithubAug 11 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polychromatic 0.7 Released With Improved UI For Configuring Gaming Keyboards, Mice - PhoronixAug 11 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - TechrightsAug 11 13:38
techrights-news##HowTo install Linux for gaming, creativity and professional applications • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154390 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to install Linux for gaming, creativity and professional applications | Tux MachinesAug 11 13:39
techrights-newsValve’s upcoming #SteamDeck will be based on Arch Linux—not Debian | Ars Technica ⚓ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/08/valves-upcoming-steam-deck-will-be-based-on-arch-linux-not-debian/ ䷉ #arseTechnicallyPedophileAug 11 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Valve’s upcoming Steam Deck will be based on Arch Linux—not Debian | Ars TechnicaAug 11 13:40
techrights-newsEven if this runs #gnu #linux at the back end we should reject #clownComputing for #gaming as it attacks our ownership or control over #games https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/stadia-tries-to-appeal-to-a-younger-audience-with-new-family-friendly-gamesAug 11 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stadia tries to appeal to a younger audience with new family-friendly games | GamingOnLinuxAug 11 13:42
techrights-news[PATCH 0/4] futex2: Add wait on multiple futexes syscall https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210805190405.59110-1-andrealmeid@collabora.com/ good news for gamers. #collabora #linuxAug 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 0/4] futex2: Add wait on multiple futexes syscall - André AlmeidaAug 11 13:44
techrights-news#DXVK Native gets an official release to help Linux ports with #Vulkan | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/dxvk-native-gets-an-official-release-to-help-linux-ports-with-vulkan ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latestAug 11 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DXVK Native gets an official release to help Linux ports with Vulkan | GamingOnLinuxAug 11 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsAug 11 13:55
techrights-newsHistorical adventure #Svoboda 1945: Liberation to release for GNU/Linux soon | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/historical-adventure-svoboda-1945-liberation-to-release-for-linux-soon ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #GamesAug 11 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Historical adventure Svoboda 1945: Liberation to release for Linux soon | GamingOnLinuxAug 11 13:56
techrights-news#Games: Valve Breaking a Curse, Polychromatic, Stadia, and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154391 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve Breaking a Curse, Polychromatic, Stadia, and More | Tux MachinesAug 11 14:02
techrights-news"First up in the news, Linux Mint working on the website, more on the SteamDeck, Ubuntu debuts its new installer, and some release dates" https://mintcast.org/2021/08/11/367-whats-old-is-new-again/Aug 11 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 367 – What’s Old Is New Again – mintCastAug 11 14:03
cbrtrnx[m]I think selfhosting is not bad, but one disadvantage in this case is that libera is bridged to matrix (which could be done for selfhosted irc too)Aug 11 14:07
techrights-news#CodeWeavers #CrossOver 21 for Linux Mac and #ChromeOS https://www.wine-reviews.net/2021/08/codeweavers-crossover-21-for-linux-mac.htmlAug 11 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wine-reviews.net | Wine Reviews : CodeWeavers CrossOver 21 for Linux Mac and Chrome OSAug 11 14:18
techrights-news#OBS Studio gets another developer, launches a Project Bounty Program • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154392 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 14:19
braboGuest91: hilarious how you flipped sidesAug 11 14:20
braboi thought leenode was so just and the old staff were so wrong eh?Aug 11 14:20
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brabohttp://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/Aug 11 14:21
brabooopsAug 11 14:21
brabohttp://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ "The Panic Over Freenode Isn’t Justified and Its Reaction Mostly DisproportionateAug 11 14:21
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braboyou do come across like someone who really doesn't know what they want and is just saying things to generate them clicks. at any cost.Aug 11 14:22
Guest91may 19Aug 11 14:22
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braboso? anything anyone should know to form an objective opinion was on the table at that timeAug 11 14:24
techrights-newsAll-Russian PCs featuring Arm SoC and Linux are now shipping http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154342#comment-30512Aug 11 14:24
Guest91we went self-hostedAug 11 14:24
Guest91as we had planned a year priorAug 11 14:24
brabowhat does that have to do with the words you put in your posts?Aug 11 14:25
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Aug 11 14:25
Guest91we always thought big networks were badAug 11 14:26
Guest91even weeks priorAug 11 14:26
Guest91before LeeAug 11 14:26
superkuhUh huh. But, specifically, the false claims you made.Aug 11 14:28
Guest91http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/Aug 11 14:28
Guest91those are still the people who run LCAug 11 14:28
superkuhRegarding libera and cancel culture... totally false and kind of crazy. It really made me question your judgment as a whole on other issues in other domains.Aug 11 14:29
Guest91some of them did engage in thisAug 11 14:29
Guest91in fact, their names are still in the anti-RMS letterAug 11 14:29
superkuhUh, I looked that up at the time and told you it was only 1.Aug 11 14:29
superkuhYou refused to re-check then and stick to it now?Aug 11 14:29
Guest91no, it was a mistakeAug 11 14:30
superkuhAgain, this kind of mistakes and clinging to shit to save face... it makes me wonder.Aug 11 14:30
Guest91and we corrected the mistakeAug 11 14:30
superkuhMaybe novell is actually fine?Aug 11 14:30
Guest91novell had extensive prior backgroundAug 11 14:30
brabosuperkuh: oh did only this post make you question his judgement? ;)Aug 11 14:33
superkuhHonestly, yes.Aug 11 14:34
superkuhI feel a bit sheepish about it.Aug 11 14:34
Guest91this proves to me how big networks are like social control mediaAug 11 14:35
Guest91puting together oppositesAug 11 14:35
Guest91and lowering the value of a discussionAug 11 14:35
brabotechrights has long been seen by many as a tabloid quality blog :pAug 11 14:35
Guest91laters....Aug 11 14:35
braboby a self proclaimed Dr.Aug 11 14:35
braboor did you get a doctorate yet?Aug 11 14:35
superkuhEasy to ignore that kind of thing when I agree with so many of the arguments.Aug 11 14:35
schestowitz-TRsuperkuh: now you see why it's better to self-host?Aug 11 14:36
schestowitz-TRyou end up arguing with people who dislike you to begin withAug 11 14:36
schestowitz-TRand you are not likely to coinvince themAug 11 14:36
schestowitz-TRthat's an issue freenode too occassionaly hadAug 11 14:36
schestowitz-TRthey are not trollsAug 11 14:36
superkuh... you think he's a troll?Aug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRbut to be conductive we need to focus on discussion unlike what LC has right nowAug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRnoAug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRI said noAug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRbut...Aug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRthey are not there to fight with us by can slow things downAug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TR*butAug 11 14:37
superkuhHuh. I was just about to say that hiding in a safe space to avoid criticism was a downside.Aug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRpeople who think like him would not connect to ther networkAug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TR  \/join #something is fasterAug 11 14:37
schestowitz-TRand then tire us downAug 11 14:37
superkuhI do get that constant aggressive people is tiring.Aug 11 14:38
schestowitz-TRsuperkuh: I know what you mean by that, but also fighting with your enemies like in twitter is not good use of resourcesAug 11 14:38
superkuhBut maybe, at least the last few months, it's been legit criticism.Aug 11 14:38
schestowitz-TRI have done activism for decadesAug 11 14:38
schestowitz-TRI know how counterproductive this can getAug 11 14:38
superkuhK.Aug 11 14:38
schestowitz-TRI'd rather read and write than fightAug 11 14:39
schestowitz-TRthey can criticise as they wishAug 11 14:39
cbrtrnx[m]It's kind of surprising though how it went downhill with freenode. Although that Lee guy was involved in funding many opensource projects before (with considerable amounts)Aug 11 14:39
superkuhEh... or so he claims.Aug 11 14:40
superkuhLee's claims about the amount of money he put into Freenode were false.Aug 11 14:40
superkuhpre takeover.Aug 11 14:40
cbrtrnx[m]What do you mean? You can read about all the donations, it's public infoAug 11 14:40
schestowitz-TR(it is our argument against social control media)Aug 11 14:40
superkuhlink?Aug 11 14:40
schestowitz-TRdivisive and unnecessarily hostile, platform owners like it ("engagement" for ads)Aug 11 14:41
superkuhhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27261251Aug 11 14:41
superkuhYeah, like how you treated libera.Aug 11 14:42
superkuhFalse claims, extremely divisive and unnecessarily hostile and wrong.Aug 11 14:43
superkuhBut I bet you got a lot of clicks.Aug 11 14:43
superkuhGlass houses and all that.Aug 11 14:43
schestowitz-TRdid I name-call them?Aug 11 14:43
schestowitz-TRdid I do it in their platform?Aug 11 14:44
superkuhYes. Yes.Aug 11 14:44
superkuhBut the later issue seems irrelevant?Aug 11 14:44
superkuhre: on their platform.Aug 11 14:44
superkuhNot talking and hiding in a echo chamber is how freenode died.Aug 11 14:45
superkuhSorry, how "leenode" died.Aug 11 14:45
schestowitz-TRwe wrote far more articles critical of freenode than defensiveAug 11 14:45
superkuhDo you really believe that?Aug 11 14:46
schestowitz-TRI know thatAug 11 14:46
schestowitz-TRI wrote thoseAug 11 14:46
schestowitz-TRmaybe the first week alone there was a grace periodAug 11 14:46
cbrtrnx[m]I wasn't referring to freenode, but the handshake donations. Easy to find. E.g.: "Trisquel Association received an USD 100.000 donation." "no strings attached", gnome (400.000), OpenBSD, gimp, guix, etc. - Aug 11 14:46
cbrtrnx[m]I don't know the details regarding those freenode storyAug 11 14:47
cbrtrnx[m]*thatAug 11 14:47
schestowitz-TRpresumption of innocence matters tooAug 11 14:47
techrights-newsWhy based a distro on #fedora when #ibm acts the way it does? https://fedoramagazine.org/build-your-own-fedora-iot-remix/Aug 11 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Build your own Fedora IoT Remix - Fedora MagazineAug 11 14:52
XRevan86superkuh: schestowitz wrote a lot on how freenode was becoming… what it has become now. Criticism of Libera is a different issue in my opinion. He didn't really touch the topic in the later articles except for the same-named channel that exists there and lack of desire to trust a network again.Aug 11 14:52
XRevan86schestowitz: CrystalMath answered about the database yesterday: it hasn't been wiped again.Aug 11 14:53
MinceRconfirmedAug 11 14:53
schestowitz-TRhow many people are even online there?Aug 11 14:54
MinceRand it still sets the vhost twice :DAug 11 14:54
schestowitz-TR1000-2000?Aug 11 14:54
MinceR11 155422 [freenode2] -!- Current global users: 1131  Max: 1135Aug 11 14:54
schestowitz-TRhahaAug 11 14:54
MinceR"millions"!Aug 11 14:54
schestowitz-TRthey lost 99% of usersAug 11 14:54
superkuhI'm going through May first. So far is 3 articles insulting and implying libera staff and users are racists, or evil, and 0 against freenode. 2 supporting freenode and saying they always had ads and it was always like this and lee is right.Aug 11 14:55
superkuhI'm sure by late July you'll have changed your tune.Aug 11 14:55
superkuhBut far, far too late.Aug 11 14:55
XRevan86superkuh: No, in June.Aug 11 14:56
schestowitz-TRno, in MayAug 11 14:56
XRevan86Or in May too, not sure.Aug 11 14:56
MinceRyeah, he should have immediately condemned lee on the basis of hearsayAug 11 14:56
schestowitz-TRiirc, in may they hijacked channelsAug 11 14:56
MinceRalso, he should have joined illibera staff in attempting to cancel RMSAug 11 14:56
MinceRbecause they're always rightAug 11 14:56
superkuhConflating RMS into this issue was itself stupid.Aug 11 14:56
MinceRyeahAug 11 14:56
schestowitz-TRit is not entirelyAug 11 14:56
schestowitz-TRsimilar situationAug 11 14:56
superkuhIt was never about cancel culture, had nothing to do with RMS.Aug 11 14:56
schestowitz-TRor rushing to conclusionsAug 11 14:56
MinceRit's totally normal and acceptable for networks advertising themselves as being about and for free software to do what they can against free softwareAug 11 14:57
MinceRall hail ibm!Aug 11 14:57
superkuhIt was literally a mentally ill cocaine user with delusions taking over and it was obvious to most of us immediately on talking to him.Aug 11 14:57
XRevan86superkuh: It's the only thing MinceR can talk about.Aug 11 14:57
MinceRwell, cocaine use is not that common around here so i can't diagnose it by simply chatting with someone on IRCAug 11 14:57
schestowitz-TRbtw, it was LEE was called it cancel cultureAug 11 14:58
superkuhMinceR, I used the court documents.Aug 11 14:58
MinceRi guess it's a similar skill to what imageboard users have -- diagnosing autism on the basis of imageboard postsAug 11 14:58
MinceRsuperkuh: the court documents list allegations, the cases i've seen haven't been decided yetAug 11 14:58
MinceRsuperkuh: the plaintiffs could have put anything in writing and you would have believed all of it as gospelAug 11 14:58
schestowitz-TRAriadne shared this court documents a week or so laterAug 11 14:58
schestowitz-TRI made copiesAug 11 14:59
superkuhMinceR, correct. So many of his employees all said the same thing.Aug 11 14:59
superkuhUnless you're implying a large conspiracy against him?Aug 11 14:59
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MinceRi guess we should have also wiped our own memories of what the previous freenode staff did and considered them to be morally perfect insteadAug 11 15:00
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154393 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 11 15:00
MinceRbecause A being evil proves B being good, right?Aug 11 15:00
superkuhMinceR, what did they do?Aug 11 15:00
MinceRiirc RichiH silenced me with no good reasonAug 11 15:00
MinceRask CrystalMath/jn for other incidentsAug 11 15:00
superkuhI've been on freenode since 2001 (an account since 2004) and I have only had pleasant experiences. But that, much like your individual experience, proves nothing.Aug 11 15:00
MinceRperhaps you were better at avoiding staffAug 11 15:01
superkuhAnyway, sorry to bring it up again. I'm glad we're all past it now.Aug 11 15:01
XRevan86MinceR: His incidents are barely that. The only incident that is interesting he doesn't know for sure even happened.Aug 11 15:02
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XRevan86nor the context of itAug 11 15:03
schestowitz-TRfreenode was not a monolithAug 11 15:03
schestowitz-TRsome stuff was excellentAug 11 15:03
schestowitz-TRfreenode is a monolith nowAug 11 15:03
schestowitz-TRa crackpotAug 11 15:03
MinceRthe good stuff was probably ages agoAug 11 15:03
schestowitz-TRMinceR: some staff was there for decadesAug 11 15:03
schestowitz-TRthey did not vet wellAug 11 15:04
schestowitz-TRmaybe also christel's faultAug 11 15:04
schestowitz-TRmaybe they thought free meant "no salary"Aug 11 15:04
schestowitz-TRso they can exercise authority to compensate for the labourAug 11 15:04
MinceR:>Aug 11 15:04
schestowitz-TRidealogical ego tripsAug 11 15:04
schestowitz-TRit would be easier to silence MinceRAug 11 15:06
schestowitz-TRbecause his temper is different from mineAug 11 15:06
schestowitz-TRand he has no online presence like blogAug 11 15:06
schestowitz-TRso the blowback or backlash for silencinng him would be smallAug 11 15:06
schestowitz-TRno voice in freenode, gaslit4 lifeAug 11 15:07
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▄▅▂▃▄▂▂▄▇▃▃▃▄▅▄▅▆▆▄▅▃▂▄▃▄▃▆▂▃▅▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 17.30 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▁▂▁██▁▂█▂▂▁▂▄▁▃▂▂▂█▁█▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 95.68▕ swarm size (avg): 275.03  ⟲Aug 11 15:07
schestowitz-TRso they target these peopleAug 11 15:07
schestowitz-TRyou never hear of them againAug 11 15:07
schestowitz-TRyou don't even know what happened to themAug 11 15:07
schestowitz-TRunless they message techrightsAug 11 15:07
schestowitz-TRand then you know who's whoAug 11 15:07
MinceRi'm on 11 networksAug 11 15:08
schestowitz-TRoftc has some of the same people as 'staff'Aug 11 15:08
XRevan86MinceR: How many people are on Joseon in #techrights?Aug 11 15:08
MinceRso there isn't that much they can do now :>Aug 11 15:08
MinceR9, including ChanServ and tr-bridgeAug 11 15:08
schestowitz-TRnot bad, I guessAug 11 15:09
schestowitz-TRafter wiping almost 90% of what was on freenodeAug 11 15:09
schestowitz-TRwe did not have 70 people online since June or JulyAug 11 15:09
schestowitz-TRso now lee gets to have his comfort menAug 11 15:09
schestowitz-TRto help his egoAug 11 15:10
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XRevan86When I said yesterday that the bridge is approaching the end of its utility, I didn't think it'll become this useless this quickly.Aug 11 15:10
MinceRif he can massage his ego with having 1131 users :>Aug 11 15:10
schestowitz-TRwe might even be the busiest channel in that networkAug 11 15:10
XRevan86schestowitz: Apart from #joseon/#freenode, of course.Aug 11 15:11
schestowitz-TRmaybe not even that?Aug 11 15:11
XRevan86They're probably going nuts right now.Aug 11 15:11
schestowitz-TRthey don't care for his nutsAug 11 15:12
schestowitz-TR"look ma! I wiped 99% of an IRC network"Aug 11 15:12
schestowitz-TRfrom hero to zero in 90 daysAug 11 15:13
XRevan86schestowitz: Not hero though.Aug 11 15:13
schestowitz-TRin his own mindAug 11 15:13
MinceR:>Aug 11 15:13
schestowitz-TRthe whole network can run on one virtualAug 11 15:13
schestowitz-TRnot even physical serverAug 11 15:13
MinceRand nothing of value was lostAug 11 15:13
schestowitz-TRalex has over-provisionedAug 11 15:13
XRevan86schestowitz: In his own mind he just brought back the Nation of Joseon. What's more heroic than that?Aug 11 15:14
schestowitz-TRhis own mindAug 11 15:15
schestowitz-TRyou overestimate that wordAug 11 15:15
schestowitz-TRmindAug 11 15:15
schestowitz-TRthe way he chatted with me was very unprofessionalAug 11 15:16
schestowitz-TRinfantile mindAug 11 15:16
XRevan86schestowitz: in his own headAug 11 15:16
MinceR:>Aug 11 15:16
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/Aug 11 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | TechrightsAug 11 15:17
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/762540.pngAug 11 15:17
schestowitzthis is still LCAug 11 15:17
schestowitzbehind the curtainAug 11 15:17
schestowitzsame peopleAug 11 15:17
XRevan86schestowitz: There's no curtain.Aug 11 15:17
schestowitz-TRthere isAug 11 15:18
schestowitz-TRPMsAug 11 15:18
schestowitzhttps://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/american-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427Aug 11 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jfklibrary.org | The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961 | JFK LibraryAug 11 15:19
schestowitz"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary Aug 11 15:19
schestowitzrestrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is Aug 11 15:19
schestowitzhigh or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know."Aug 11 15:19
techrights-news#Kernel Work by Intel • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154394 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Work by Intel | Tux MachinesAug 11 15:20
superkuhOkay. In May: 4 against libera, 2 pro-leenode, 2 neutral but supporting Lee (before the actual split), 1 worried about Lee owning things (may 12th). In June: 1 against libera, 2 against leenode, 3 against both. Looks like you realized Lee was Lee sometime in late-June. So my July guess was wrong. But so was your claim about posting more against freenode than libera.Aug 11 15:27
techrights-news#ProprietarySoftware Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154395 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 11 15:29
schestowitz-TRsuperkuh: that's just blog postsAug 11 15:29
schestowitz-TRcheck irc logs :-)Aug 11 15:29
schestowitz-TRwe didn't want to get bootedAug 11 15:29
superkuhEasy to donate something you invented from scratch.Aug 11 15:30
schestowitz-TR"In May: 4 against libera"Aug 11 15:30
superkuhI actually have a handshake account, was part of the alpha/beta/whatever. At least until I realized it was part of Lees scam companies.Aug 11 15:30
schestowitz-TRwe almost never even named that networkAug 11 15:30
schestowitz-TRto it's odd to put it like thisAug 11 15:30
superkuhI severely doubt any real USD could be re-couped from handshake donations.Aug 11 15:30
superkuhOr even any real bitcoin.Aug 11 15:31
schestowitz-TRthe only time we named it was when we said we are "NOT" on itAug 11 15:31
schestowitz-TRto avoid confusionAug 11 15:31
superkuhAnd even if they someone managed to convert handshake to a real cryptocurrency it was basically all done to promote the handshake cryptocurrency.Aug 11 15:31
superkuhWhich he wants to get big because he's a founder and sitting on a pile of coins.Aug 11 15:32
superkuhOh, so I do have to paste the links then?Aug 11 15:32
superkuhI wanted to avoid spamming.Aug 11 15:32
*XRevan86 wanted to point out how the "freenode #live" link in the footer hasn't worked for ages, but then realised that no one cares.Aug 11 15:32
schestowitz-TRok, go aheadAug 11 15:32
schestowitz-TRno harm, not spammingAug 11 15:32
superkuhhttp://techrights.org/2021/05/29/freenode-situation/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/freenode-users/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/14/free-software-movement-and-irc/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/14/how-freenode-works/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/freenode-advice/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/1Aug 11 15:33
superkuh3/private-internet-access-and-freenode/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/irc-clarity/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/andrew-lee-l0de-interview/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/meme-irc-wars-in-a-nutshell/Aug 11 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Not Dying, the Media is Just Lying | TechrightsAug 11 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM | TechrightsAug 11 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread.” ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two | TechrightsAug 11 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | TechrightsAug 11 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | There’s a Staff Exodus at Freenode, But It’s Not a Users Exodus (No Compelling Practical Reasons to Leave) | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Protecting Freenode is Protecting the Free Software Movement | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding How Freenode (IRC) Works — or Doesn’t Work — in 2021 | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Need for Reliable Governance at Freenode | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2021 May 01 | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights is NOT on Libera Chat, Techrights Has Its Own IRC Network | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Annotated Transcript of Andrew Lee (Freenode) Interview With Lode Ray Dio | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IRC Wars in a Nutshell | TechrightsAug 11 15:34
superkuhThese are the set I derived the above counts from. They definitely include the word libera in they were counted by me as "against libera".Aug 11 15:34
superkuhif theyAug 11 15:34
MinceRdoes freenode turning into joseon somehow turn illibera into a good network for free software discussion?Aug 11 15:34
schestowitz-TRthat's what I said in LC;Aug 11 15:34
superkuhNo. Libera became the best network when leenode was created.Aug 11 15:35
schestowitz-TRnamely, that one negative does not make the other positiveAug 11 15:35
schestowitz-TRboth can be negatives in different waysAug 11 15:35
superkuhBecause libera is Freenode.Aug 11 15:35
superkuhWhile Leenode is leenode.Aug 11 15:35
MinceRlolAug 11 15:35
MinceReven freenode never was the best networkAug 11 15:35
superkuh...Aug 11 15:35
MinceRhell, they used to claim it wasn't even ircAug 11 15:35
superkuhFor open source and technical discussion it wasn't even a contest.Aug 11 15:35
MinceRyeahAug 11 15:35
superkuhSure, I'm on 29 other networks, but freenode was the best and the best of freenode went to libera.Aug 11 15:36
MinceRif you don't want abusive opers interfere with it, avoid illibera, oftc and leenodeAug 11 15:36
braboisn't the handshake andrew lee someone else than the leenode lee?Aug 11 15:36
*superkuh rolls eyes.Aug 11 15:36
MinceRalso, freenode was one of the splittiest networks i know, up there with ircnetAug 11 15:37
techrights-newsLinks 11/8/2021: OBS Studio Growth and More on elementary OS 6 • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/obs-studio-growth/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/obs-studio-growth/Aug 11 15:38
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phobos/jn* 315 :unknown connectionsAug 11 15:38
phobos/jn* 3812 :channels formedAug 11 15:38
phobos/jn* I have 230 clients and 1 serversAug 11 15:38
phobos/jn* Current local users: 230  Max: 230Aug 11 15:38
phobos/jn* Current global users: 579  Max: 579Aug 11 15:38
schestowitz-TR0/Aug 11 15:38
schestowitz-TRphebus: in joseon?Aug 11 15:38
phobos/jnyepAug 11 15:38
schestowitz-TRvery small networkAug 11 15:39
schestowitz-TRused to be 95kAug 11 15:39
techrights-newsToday’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154396 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 11 15:39
XRevan86phobos: There was a thousand earlier. Did they leave?Aug 11 15:39
schestowitz-TRmaybe they realised they were in the wrong placeAug 11 15:39
schestowitz-TRlike I said this morningAug 11 15:39
schestowitz-TRlike, wth is this?Aug 11 15:39
schestowitz-TRlike the time ubuntu directed rianne's PC to LCAug 11 15:40
schestowitz-TRinstead of freenodeAug 11 15:40
XRevan86phobos: "Max: 579" – is this an up-to-date number?Aug 11 15:40
phobos/jnXRevan: Looks like they decided to purge alternate nicks. Now its one nick per account and cannot use the same email to register another nickAug 11 15:40
phobos/jnXRevan86: lemme double checkAug 11 15:40
gustafimmutableAug 11 15:40
XRevan86phobos: Yes, that is correct.Aug 11 15:41
gustafschestowitz-TR: that was just Ubuntu pointing their nameservers at another host Aug 11 15:41
gustafirc.ubuntu -> irc.libera instead of irc.freenodeAug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] There are 7 users and 1129 invisible on 13 serversAug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] 5 operator(s) onlineAug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] 256 unknown connectionsAug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] 5016 channels formedAug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] I have 341 clients and 1 serversAug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] Current users on taejo.joseon.kr: 341  Max: 359.Aug 11 15:41
phobos558/jn[08:41] [Users] Current users on the network: 1136  Max: 1138Aug 11 15:41
XRevan86Yea, that looks up-to-date.Aug 11 15:41
superkuhThere are two and both are involved, but leenode lee through one of his proxy companies. iirc.Aug 11 15:42
superkuhBoth JJ and Andrew Lee are handshake founders.Aug 11 15:42
XRevan86phobos: See? Not so bad on Choson, it's not 500, it's 1000 :DAug 11 15:43
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phobos/jnall I know is that I'm about ready to jump ship. Can't register another nick because apparently 'This email address is forbidden'Aug 11 15:44
phobos/jnIts @mail.comAug 11 15:44
*phobos/jn shrugsAug 11 15:44
XRevan86Oh hey, another one they banned.Aug 11 15:44
gustafthat's... a big one Aug 11 15:44
cbrtrnx[m]<superkuh> "I severely doubt any real USD..." <- Don't get it. Didn't they donate USD? Only crypto?Aug 11 15:44
schestowitz#techrights at irc.techrights.org is where like 99% of activity isAug 11 15:45
gustafso can't have hotmail/office, nor gmail, nor throwawaysAug 11 15:45
gustafwtf Aug 11 15:45
XRevan86schestowitz: Nah, 99.9999%Aug 11 15:45
XRevan86gustaf: gmail was allowed last I checked.Aug 11 15:45
gustafphobos/jn: used it before? Aug 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRmail.comAug 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: leee claims to like privacyAug 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRuses macbook airAug 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRgmail okAug 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRothers notAug 11 15:46
schestowitz-TRit's not even consistentAug 11 15:46
superkuhThat's how I interpreted it. Reading the page now it seems it was a mix. And the USD wasn't from handshake, but from external sponsors.Aug 11 15:47
XRevan86schestowitz: He hates Apple now, so maybe he'll ditch the macbook? (unlikely)Aug 11 15:47
gustafMacbook is a status marker Aug 11 15:47
phobos/jngive him a few days... he'll be back to loving appleAug 11 15:48
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superkuhExternal sponsors donated USD and received Handshake in return. The donated USD and some handshake was then distributed to some open source projects.Aug 11 15:48
superkuhSo, at it's core, lee wasn't really donating his own money but instead using the early pyramid scheme income.Aug 11 15:48
leahomgAug 11 15:49
leahi've done itAug 11 15:49
superkuhref: https://handshake.org/grant-sponsors/Aug 11 15:49
leahi've done itAug 11 15:49
leahbut i won't say what it isAug 11 15:49
leahnot until i've confirmed that i've done itAug 11 15:49
leah...also sorry, i meant to put this in another channel. disregardAug 11 15:49
gustafteaseAug 11 15:50
leahi've managed to kill one of my channels on freenodeAug 11 15:50
leah*and i'm still an op there*Aug 11 15:50
leahi wonAug 11 15:50
*leah did itAug 11 15:51
XRevan86leah: I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as freenode, is in fact, Joseon, or as I've recently taken to calling it, the virtual nation of Choson.Aug 11 15:51
MinceR:>Aug 11 15:52
MinceRchōsenAug 11 15:52
gustaflolAug 11 15:52
leahit's a steaming pile of shit run by someone who regularly hallucinates on whatever shit he snorts up his noseAug 11 15:52
schestowitzdomain hijackedAug 11 15:52
schestowitzthe  chōsen <sttrike>one</strike>Aug 11 15:53
schestowitzzeroAug 11 15:53
schestowitzrootAug 11 15:53
MinceR:>Aug 11 15:53
MinceRXaeroAug 11 15:53
schestowitzsystemd Aug 11 15:53
schestowitzprozzzes einsAug 11 15:53
MinceRthat's pid einsAug 11 15:54
schestowitzDAS IST GUT!!!Aug 11 15:54
leahyeah i can't change my nick on freenode eitherAug 11 15:54
schestowitz(you don't have to shout, dear)Aug 11 15:54
leahi have leah registered there, and i group two other nicksAug 11 15:54
schestowitz"DAS MAIN NORMAL VOIZE!"Aug 11 15:54
schestowitz*MeinAug 11 15:54
leahif i now try to change to one of the grouped nicks, it says:Aug 11 15:54
leahyou must use your irc.com accountAug 11 15:54
XRevan86leah: /nick is disabled.Aug 11 15:55
leahwhich i guess is the leah account. but i registered it via nickserv, before they made that changeAug 11 15:55
leahyeahAug 11 15:55
leahnow it forces saslAug 11 15:55
leahi am the only person there, in one of my channelsAug 11 15:55
leaha channel that had hundreds of peopleAug 11 15:55
MinceRi wonder what will happen if someone pings out and reconnects and their old connection is still thereAug 11 15:55
leahand i didn't kick anyoneAug 11 15:55
schestowitzI have a favour to askAug 11 15:55
leahi wonAug 11 15:55
leah:)Aug 11 15:55
schestowitzcan someone screenshot for me the /lusers in joseonAug 11 15:56
MinceRsomehow i suspect they didn't think about that caseAug 11 15:56
schestowitzI know I could use text, but it is for a memeAug 11 15:56
MinceRjust that part of the screen?Aug 11 15:56
braboclassyAug 11 15:56
schestowitzuesAug 11 15:56
schestowitzyesAug 11 15:56
MinceRi'll do itAug 11 15:56
schestowitzthanksAug 11 15:56
leah1141, schestowitz Aug 11 15:56
schestowitzyes, the whole lotAug 11 15:56
leah1141 users right now, according to /lusers, on joseonAug 11 15:56
leahthe entire networkAug 11 15:56
leah1141Aug 11 15:56
XRevan86leah: No, he wants a picture.Aug 11 15:56
schestowitzI'll merge that into the memeAug 11 15:56
*Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrightsAug 11 15:56
schestowitzhi, DespatcheAug 11 15:57
schestowitztype  /history #techrights 1h      Aug 11 15:57
schestowitzto see what happenedAug 11 15:57
leahthat's why my channels there are empty thenAug 11 15:57
leahlolAug 11 15:57
leahi made the right call, to jump off that burning shipAug 11 15:57
schestowitzit outlived its valueAug 11 15:57
Despatcheoh neat, a rollback. thanksAug 11 15:58
leah1141Aug 11 15:58
leahseriouslyAug 11 15:58
XRevan86leah: I'm glad I was sceptical even when I was inclined to support Andrew.Aug 11 15:58
schestowitzDespatche: ircv3Aug 11 15:58
MinceRschestowitz: https://files.catbox.moe/6n4sgc.pngAug 11 15:58
schestowitzDespatche: scrollbackAug 11 15:58
schestowitzthanks, MinceRAug 11 15:58
Despatcheif freenode was so good how come there isn't a freenode2 etcAug 11 15:59
MinceRit wasn't so goodAug 11 15:59
MinceRpeople somehow got it into their heads that it's unacceptable to have free software project channels on general purpose networksAug 11 15:59
leahXRevan86: me tooAug 11 16:00
MinceRmeanwhile these networks were run by a clique on donated servers, and they decided that they get to do anything with their captive audienceAug 11 16:00
MinceRas they grew, they attracted worse and worse peopleAug 11 16:00
schestowitzI will do a Shrek memeAug 11 16:01
MinceRget out of my swamp?Aug 11 16:02
phobos/jnDoes anyone know if Andrew really has any long term plans?Aug 11 16:03
phobos/jnOr is he just having fun burning the place down?Aug 11 16:03
MinceRlolAug 11 16:04
MinceRAndrew knowsAug 11 16:04
psydruidIt is the heavenly abode of Joseon nowAug 11 16:05
psydruidmay it rest in peaceAug 11 16:05
psydruidand in piecesAug 11 16:05
Ariadnehttps://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-peopleAug 11 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenodeAug 11 16:06
Ariadneis there going to be a freenodeCoin or somethingAug 11 16:06
phobos/jnWhat a shame that he is destroying it. Not to sound like I'm defending him, but it is his network so he can destroy it if he wants toAug 11 16:06
schestowitzdoes this look ok?Aug 11 16:07
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/Aug 11 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months | TechrightsAug 11 16:07
schestowitzMinceR: ^Aug 11 16:07
MinceRlolAug 11 16:07
phobos/jnlol looks good to meAug 11 16:07
schestowitzok, will publish as finalAug 11 16:08
MinceR11 170628 < Ariadne> is there going to be a freenodeCoin or somethingAug 11 16:08
MinceRthat would be Mun or YangAug 11 16:08
phobos/jnOther servers were reallocated for other networks? Or he dumped all but this oneAug 11 16:08
techrights-news[Meme] #Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/Aug 11 16:09
XRevan86phobos: Maybe he realised he only needs one.Aug 11 16:09
MinceRor, if "Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk" is close enough, then Korean People's won :>Aug 11 16:09
phobos/jn* 5030 :channels formedAug 11 16:09
phobos/jn* I have 342 clients and 1 serversAug 11 16:09
phobos/jn* Current local users: 342  Max: 359Aug 11 16:09
phobos/jn* Current global users: 1143  Max: 1147Aug 11 16:09
phobos/jnWith this few, yeah... a p2 box could handle that easilyAug 11 16:09
MinceRthey lie about servers and layout thoughAug 11 16:10
MinceR/links only shows one as wellAug 11 16:10
schestowitzthey can run it all off a single machinesAug 11 16:10
schestowitz*machineAug 11 16:10
schestowitzno netsplits anymoreAug 11 16:10
schestowitzonline offline/onlineAug 11 16:10
MinceRand i think someone mentioned a server name different from the one i'm onAug 11 16:11
phobos/jnI honestly don't get it. If I were him, I would have let it be with maybe a few modifications to the daemon. The bad PR would have eventually blown over once the libera people got done with their hissy fit and the network would have continued onAug 11 16:11
MinceRactually i can snoop around with /whoisAug 11 16:11
MinceRyeah, i also would have announced the changes well in advance, properlyAug 11 16:11
XRevan86chat.joseon.kr gives out a new IP every time.Aug 11 16:11
MinceRbut then i'm not the cocaine-addled prince of a state that doesn't even exist anymoreAug 11 16:11
schestowitzis that a feature?Aug 11 16:12
schestowitzXRevan86: why would it do that?Aug 11 16:12
MinceRwhois doesn't reveal server names anymoreAug 11 16:12
phobos/jnBut this... either he has big delusions of grantor or he is just enjoying torching the placeAug 11 16:12
schestowitzthis flux could be decentralisation at access point?Aug 11 16:12
MinceRmaybe the idea was to decentralize but first chase away the undesirable peopleAug 11 16:12
XRevan86schestowitz: It's a feature – a round-robin address.Aug 11 16:12
phobos/jngrandeur*Aug 11 16:13
phobos/jndamn you, autocorrectAug 11 16:13
schestowitzhow is that a feature?Aug 11 16:13
schestowitzfor dns?Aug 11 16:13
XRevan86schestowitz: It picks different servers for clients.Aug 11 16:13
MinceRit's a way to distribute loadAug 11 16:13
schestowitzbut does it do that?Aug 11 16:13
XRevan86And it means that there are many different servers still.Aug 11 16:13
schestowitzhow many servers are there? 2?Aug 11 16:13
schestowitzmaybe it's not round robin but andomAug 11 16:13
schestowitz*randomAug 11 16:14
MinceRhost chat.joseon.kr   shows me 7 ip addressesAug 11 16:14
schestowitzor based on least loadAug 11 16:14
schestowitzcpu schedulers and ha work like thatAug 11 16:14
MinceRapparently 7 A records on the same domain nameAug 11 16:14
schestowitzwow, talk about over-provisioningAug 11 16:14
MinceRit's probably randomAug 11 16:14
schestowitzthey know how many accounts irc.com hadAug 11 16:14
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-robin_DNSAug 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Round-robin DNS - WikipediaAug 11 16:14
schestowitzwhat are those rapis?Aug 11 16:14
XRevan86MinceR: They differ each time as well.Aug 11 16:15
schestowitzbabana pis?Aug 11 16:15
schestowitz*bananaAug 11 16:15
XRevan86schestowitz: Anyway, it's probably still 20+ servers.Aug 11 16:15
schestowitzused to be 22Aug 11 16:15
schestowitzI checked about 2 days agoAug 11 16:15
XRevan86Yea, that.Aug 11 16:15
schestowitzmaybe shells game serverAug 11 16:15
schestowitzwith some shared account for ircAug 11 16:15
schestowitzmaybe shells game is also failingAug 11 16:15
XRevan86schestowitz: I really don't think it had any donated servers :)Aug 11 16:16
schestowitzand so they're left with mostly unused hardwareAug 11 16:16
XRevan86so yea, have to be the Lee serversAug 11 16:16
schestowitzyes, alex'sAug 11 16:16
schestowitzshells gameAug 11 16:16
schestowitzaka shells.comAug 11 16:16
XRevan86schestowitz: Don't overthink this, for an enterprise like Shells™ an IRC network is nothing. Especially not a big one.Aug 11 16:16
MinceRa low traffic ircd doesn't take up a lot of resources anywayAug 11 16:16
schestowitzesp. if idleAug 11 16:17
schestowitzit relays when something happensAug 11 16:17
schestowitzotherwise just pings like liveDAug 11 16:18
schestowitzI wonder if there is more activity in #techrights #freenode right nowAug 11 16:18
schestowitz*than in freenodeAug 11 16:18
*CrystalMath (~coderain@6mus5um4rz7dg.irc) has joined #techrightsAug 11 16:18
*mib_ocp4ua (~3ed8ce14@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrightsAug 11 16:18
schestowitzmaybe lots of complaining in #freenodeAug 11 16:18
XRevan86schestowitz: #joseon is also a factor. CrystalMath should know what's going on in that.Aug 11 16:18
schestowitzCrystalMath would knowAug 11 16:18
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phobos/jnNot that I've seen.Aug 11 16:19
phobos/jnI'm logged in thereAug 11 16:19
phobos/jnpretty idle these daysAug 11 16:19
techrights-newsWith 5 times more channels than users (because they’ve imported the database) #Freenode looks like its death has been all but confirmed http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ #joseon #irc #internet #selfnukeAug 11 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months | TechrightsAug 11 16:19
XRevan86phobos: Maybe they've moved to #joseon ?Aug 11 16:19
techrights-news#Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154397 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 11 16:20
phobos/jn13 people in #joseonAug 11 16:20
schestowitzthat makes a crowdAug 11 16:20
MinceR:>Aug 11 16:20
schestowitzPutin would sic Moscow police at themAug 11 16:20
schestowitz"unlawful assembly"Aug 11 16:21
CrystalMath1100+Aug 11 16:21
CrystalMathon joseon.krAug 11 16:21
MinceRi thought putin would be friendly with themAug 11 16:21
schestowitzCrystalMath: very tinyAug 11 16:21
schestowitzthat's what she saidAug 11 16:21
phobos/jnPelosi would have her federal police force busting them all as insurrectionistsAug 11 16:21
MinceRbeing supporters of his DHA-coated puppet and allAug 11 16:21
CrystalMathas i expected, there is a thousand or two people who got registered after the resetAug 11 16:21
XRevan86MinceR: But perpetual friendship with POTUS…Aug 11 16:21
schestowitzto be in empty channelsAug 11 16:21
schestowitzwaste of bandwidthAug 11 16:22
MinceRXRevan86: just businessAug 11 16:22
XRevan86CrystalMath: Snoonet really is a big brother to freen^W Joseon, eh?Aug 11 16:22
Ariadnei can guarantee youAug 11 16:23
AriadnePOTUS has no clueAug 11 16:23
Ariadnewho this charlatan isAug 11 16:23
schestowitzPOTUS did not even know AssangeAug 11 16:24
phobos/jnHe wandered away from his SS detail last nightAug 11 16:24
schestowitzhttps://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/11/trump-julian-assange-wikileaks-1269954Aug 11 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump today: 'I know nothing about WikiLeaks.' Trump in 2016: 'Oh, we love WikiLeaks' - POLITICOAug 11 16:24
schestowitzhttps://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/wikileaks-donald-trump-julian-assange-campaign/index.htmlAug 11 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | President Trump in 2016: 'I love WikiLeaks,' Trump now: 'I know nothing about WikiLeaks' - CNNPoliticsAug 11 16:24
schestowitzif only lee ever gave headsupAug 11 16:25
schestowitzbefore emptying databasesAug 11 16:25
schestowitzand messing around with dnsAug 11 16:25
schestowitzbut no...Aug 11 16:25
schestowitzthat's why I gave up in JuneAug 11 16:25
XRevan86Ariadne: I know, I'm memeing.Aug 11 16:25
XRevan86Ariadne: It's a reminder that he said that.Aug 11 16:26
techrights-newsLF is not about #linux https://www.africanexponent.com/bpost/9129-linux-foundation-cka-exam-dumps see http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/Aug 11 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.africanexponent.com | Linux Foundation CKA Exam Dumps | The African Exponent.Aug 11 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So It’s Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | TechrightsAug 11 16:28
techrights-news#LinuxFoundation Issued Millions of Faulty Certificates and Linux Foundation CMO Who Worked for James Clapper Has Left • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lf-ca-crisis/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/03/04/lf-ca-crisis/Aug 11 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Issued Millions of Faulty Certificates and Linux Foundation CMO Who Worked for James Clapper Has Left | TechrightsAug 11 16:28
XRevan86Ariadne: Two months passed, and the nation of Joseon still hasn't gone to war on Debian. As suspected, that was just a poof.Aug 11 16:29
*eYN-[i] (~twenty@8ycb5gkcgfnsi.irc) has joined #techrightsAug 11 16:29
Ariadnewell Joseon is working on getting some F-15sAug 11 16:29
MinceRlolAug 11 16:29
MinceRi wouldn't worryAug 11 16:29
Ariadnethen they will go bomb debian developers until morale improvesAug 11 16:29
MinceRthey can't find debian or alpine on a mapAug 11 16:29
eYN-[i]i was searching the freenode topic on twiter and ended up hereAug 11 16:30
MinceRwelcome, eYN-[i] Aug 11 16:30
eYN-[i]i'm not going through all that whatever crap to get back over thereAug 11 16:30
techrights-news#freebsd has a new committer: Daniel Engberg (ports) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2021-07-06:1 #bsd #unixAug 11 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD ProjectAug 11 16:30
eYN-[i]thanksAug 11 16:30
MinceRunderstandableAug 11 16:30
eYN-[i]i didn't realize they were gonna like pull the plug last night i guess, for me anywaysAug 11 16:30
psyminI've never heard of handshake.  It sounds like it is proof of work, so that could mean it is a real cryptocurrency.  Can you explain more?Aug 11 16:30
XRevan86eYN-[i]: Would've been the 1142nd user there :)Aug 11 16:31
MinceRthey don't like proper advance noticesAug 11 16:31
eYN-[i]yeah lolAug 11 16:31
Ariadneunsurprisingly, `ariadne@dereferenced.org` is blacklisted in their systemAug 11 16:31
schestowitz-TRhahaAug 11 16:31
schestowitz-TRwell doneAug 11 16:31
schestowitz-TRthey had you on "THE" listAug 11 16:31
MinceR:>Aug 11 16:31
schestowitz-TRbetter mail than jailAug 11 16:31
MinceRregarding maps and bombing places, remember that "Africa is a beautiful country"Aug 11 16:32
schestowitz-TRnaturalisation application rejectedAug 11 16:32
schestowitz-TRMinceR: Palin LeeAug 11 16:32
Ariadneno emigration to the Joseon Empire for me!Aug 11 16:32
schestowitz-TR2024Aug 11 16:32
MinceRlolAug 11 16:33
schestowitz-TRmake african a great nation againAug 11 16:33
Ariadnetheir slogan can be "pizzagate is real -- look it up"Aug 11 16:33
MinceR:>Aug 11 16:33
techrights-newsProposing A New Model To Beat The Black Tax Blues https://iafrica.com/proposing-a-new-model-to-beat-the-black-tax-blues/Aug 11 16:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://iafrica.com/proposing-a-new-model-to-beat-the-black-tax-blues/ )Aug 11 16:33
schestowitzcontext/spoiler https://www.theguardian.com/world/oliverburkemanblog/2008/nov/06/uselections2008-sarahpalinAug 11 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Sarah Palin "didn't know Africa wasn't a country" | US elections 2008 | The GuardianAug 11 16:34
MinceRor "there totally is a child sex ring in a basement that doesn't even exist"Aug 11 16:34
schestowitzhttps://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/palin-didnt-know-africa-i_n_141653?ri18n=trueAug 11 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Palin Didn't Know Africa Is A Continent, Says Fox News Reporter (VIDEO) | HuffPost UKAug 11 16:34
schestowitzeven foxAug 11 16:34
schestowitzand she is STILL in politicsAug 11 16:34
schestowitzTrump thought Finland was in RussiaAug 11 16:35
schestowitzaccording to the book from his own subordinateAug 11 16:35
schestowitzJohn BoltonAug 11 16:35
XRevan86A Joseon Empire and a country of Africa, fitting.Aug 11 16:35
schestowitzpeople VOTE for this!Aug 11 16:35
XRevan86schestowitz: At least Finland *was* Russia, in 1916Aug 11 16:35
schestowitzwhen murica was still "great"Aug 11 16:36
schestowitzand when africa was a shopping market for slavesAug 11 16:36
MinceRno doubt the khuilo would like to have finland inside his empireAug 11 16:36
schestowitzNokiastanAug 11 16:37
XRevan86MinceR: no doubtAug 11 16:37
schestowitzmaybe Trump can be elected againAug 11 16:37
schestowitzand arrange for Putin to come to Finland and arrange a referendum againAug 11 16:38
schestowitzsame in AlaskaAug 11 16:38
schestowitzthen CanadaAug 11 16:38
XRevan86And Finland keeps giving a bad reputation to its inside twin Karelia.Aug 11 16:38
schestowitzCana-da.da.Aug 11 16:38
MinceRhe'd first need to send soldiers with the identification badges removedAug 11 16:38
MinceRand then claim that those soldiers were on vacationAug 11 16:38
schestowitzthere is lots f russian tourism in finlandAug 11 16:39
schestowitzand many there speak russianAug 11 16:39
schestowitzthe finns i meanAug 11 16:39
MinceRare the russian tourists usually heavily armed, though?Aug 11 16:39
XRevan86There used to be relaxed pass requirements for St. Petersburg residents.Aug 11 16:40
schestowitz[14:24] <techrights-news> All-Russian PCs featuring Arm SoC and Linux are now shipping http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154342#comment-30512Aug 11 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux computers launched with Baikal-M processor | Tux MachinesAug 11 16:40
schestowitznot ARMAug 11 16:40
schestowitznyetAug 11 16:40
schestowitzBaikalAug 11 16:40
XRevan86Baikals are MIPSAug 11 16:40
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/768330.jpgAug 11 16:40
XRevan86and ARM tooAug 11 16:40
XRevan86oh, and they do RISC-V nowAug 11 16:41
XRevan86(schestowitz meant Elbrus)Aug 11 16:41
MinceR"Daniel?" "He just asked if we were Soviet spies… oh." "Nyet?!"Aug 11 16:41
XRevan86DanilaAug 11 16:42
techrights-news#Firefox 91 is Here and Pushes Privacy with Enhanced Cookie Clearing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154345#comment-30515Aug 11 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 91 Arrives as the New ESR Series, Brings Back Simplified Printing | Tux MachinesAug 11 16:42
XRevan86MinceR: I remember that scene :)Aug 11 16:42
MinceR:)Aug 11 16:42
XRevan86Michael Shanks is really hard to understand.Aug 11 16:43
MinceRin russian?Aug 11 16:44
XRevan86MinceR: yeaAug 11 16:44
MinceRi'm guessing only his character is fluent in several languagesAug 11 16:44
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrightsAug 11 16:44
techrights-newsMy first #programming language and early adventures https://opensource.com/article/21/8/my-first-programming-languageAug 11 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My first programming language and early adventures | Opensource.comAug 11 16:45
XRevan86MinceR: Yea, I guess it's strange to expect an actor to work on pronunciation for a TV show.Aug 11 16:47
*schestowitz-TR cannot recall who Michael Shanks but it rings a bellAug 11 16:48
XRevan86schestowitz: Plays Daniel Jackson in Stargate SG-1Aug 11 16:48
schestowitz-TRthis year marks 20 years since I got rid of TVAug 11 16:48
schestowitz-TRStargate sucksAug 11 16:48
schestowitz-TRA lot of the space 'dramas' doAug 11 16:49
schestowitz-TRlow-budget and slow, boringAug 11 16:49
schestowitz-TRtheir 'aliens' are just loust make-up artAug 11 16:49
XRevan86I'll just call them serials then, not really about television anyway.Aug 11 16:49
schestowitz-TRnot like Predator Aug 11 16:49
AriadnewaitAug 11 16:49
AriadneXRevan86: why does the bridge call itself /jn nowAug 11 16:49
schestowitz-TRit's not freenodeAug 11 16:50
schestowitz-TRit's a self-styled joseonAug 11 16:50
XRevan86Ariadne: It bridges to the glorious virtual nation of Joseon, so it's only appropriate %)Aug 11 16:50
schestowitzAriadne: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/joseon-scam.pngAug 11 16:50
Ariadnehow can it be a nation if america cannot bomb itAug 11 16:51
schestowitz-TRWACOAug 11 16:51
Ariadneoh manAug 11 16:51
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombingAug 11 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1985 MOVE bombing - WikipediaAug 11 16:51
XRevan86Ariadne: It still can though, it's so autonomous they can pull the plug on it.Aug 11 16:52
Ariadnecould you even imagine a Waco-style incident with LeeAug 11 16:52
schestowitzUS can bomb anythingAug 11 16:52
schestowitzeven domesticallyAug 11 16:52
schestowitzthere is always a wayAug 11 16:52
Ariadnetanks rolling up into his $20m mansionAug 11 16:52
schestowitzeven to drone-strike americans abroadAug 11 16:52
schestowitzand their two kidsAug 11 16:52
schestowitzone by intentionAug 11 16:52
schestowitzAriadne: kim dotcomAug 11 16:52
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hAAug 11 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom Police Raid Video Released - YouTubeAug 11 16:53
schestowitzwith nice music Aug 11 16:53
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmObwguVmEIAug 11 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom - The RAID - YouTubeAug 11 16:53
MinceR11 174850 < schestowitz-TR> Stargate sucksAug 11 16:54
MinceRyou're wrongAug 11 16:54
schestowitzkim used to be bsed in HKAug 11 16:54
schestowitzhe later realised it was unsafeAug 11 16:54
schestowitzsnowden realised the sameAug 11 16:54
schestowitzHK is already friedAug 11 16:54
schestowitzwith "security law"Aug 11 16:54
schestowitzlatest:Aug 11 16:54
schestowitz[08:12] <techrights-news> ● NEWS ● #RSF #hk #PressFreedom ☞ Hong Kong: #AppleDaily founder #JimmyLai , accused under the national security law for one year, faces a life sentence https://rsf.org/en/news/hong-kong-apple-daily-founder-jimmy-lai-accused-under-national-security-law-one-year-faces-lifeAug 11 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Hong Kong: Apple Daily founder Jimmy Lai, accused under the national security law for one year, faces a life sentence | RSFAug 11 16:55
MinceRMichael Shanks also voiced (played?) at least one of the AsgardsAug 11 16:55
XRevan86MinceR: Can't recall them speaking RussianAug 11 16:55
techrights-news#Elasticsearch 7.14 and #Opensearch 1.0 Are Available and Work Fine With Syslog-ng https://peter.czanik.hu/other/syslog-elasticsearch-7-14-and-opensearch-1-0-are-available-and-work-fine-with-syslog-ng/Aug 11 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Elasticsearch 7.14 and Opensearch 1.0 Are Available and Work Fine With Syslog-ng | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' CzanikAug 11 16:56
XRevan86Ariadne: Also "j" looks like "f" upside down, and that also reflects what happened to the network.Aug 11 16:56
techrights-news#Android 9.0 digital signage player supports 4G LTE, watchdog timer, screen orientation - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/11/android-9-0-digital-signage-player-supports-4g-lte-watchdog-timer-screen-orientation/Aug 11 16:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Android 9.0 digital signage player supports 4G LTE, watchdog timer, screen orientation - CNX SoftwareAug 11 16:57
techrights-news#ibm #redhat is a buzzwords machine https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/8/artificial-intelligence-ai-how-evangelizeAug 11 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to evangelize Artificial Intelligence (AI) in your organization | The Enterprisers ProjectAug 11 16:58
techrights-news10 Best #Guitar Tuner Apps for #Android That Every Musician Must Try https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-guitar-tuner-apps-for-android/Aug 11 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 10 Best Guitar Tuner Apps for Android That Every Musician Must TryAug 11 16:59
superkuhThings can be real protocols but not real cryptocurrencies because the protocol is centrally controlled and can be changed. Like how the tor project decided to no longer support v2 services. with someone like andrew lee at the wheel you certainly can't trust it. All of his various shell companies are obviously that, but if he stacks the shit deep and interdependent enough it can seem legit and be used to scam.Aug 11 17:00
XRevan86Ariadne: https://twitter.com/ulvniya/status/1425477742489899010 stop this person!!!Aug 11 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ulvniya: @ariadneconill oh theres something called joseon in korea should i go there is that the empireAug 11 17:00
AriadnelolAug 11 17:00
superkuhLike getting third party donors to give him more money so he can appear like a real cool dude without actually doing anything.Aug 11 17:01
MinceRif they go to Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk, they're going to have a bad timeAug 11 17:01
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techrights-news#Box Plot • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154399 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDEAug 11 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Box Plot | Tux MachinesAug 11 17:03
techrights-news#Debian User Forums changes and updates. • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154398 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian User Forums changes and updates. | Tux MachinesAug 11 17:04
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21071012Aug 11 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5662826)Aug 11 17:07
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Korea "In the Korean language, the two Koreas use different terms to refer to the nominally unified nation: Chosŏn in North Korea and Hanguk in South Korea. Ethnic Koreans living in China and Japan also use the term Chosŏn to refer to Korea."Aug 11 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Names of Korea - WikipediaAug 11 17:07
techrights-newsNotice how almost every bit of #hardware is now, all of a sudden, marketed as "HEY HI!!!" #marketing #buzzwords https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/11/geniatech-db10-ai-development-board-amlogic-a311d-hdmi-input-tv-tuner/Aug 11 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Geniatech DB10 - An AI development board with Amlogic A311D SoC, HDMI input, optional TV tuner - CNX SoftwareAug 11 17:07
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techrights-news#AMDVLK 2021.Q3.4 Driver Fixes "Horrifically Broken" Switchable Graphics Layer • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154400 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMDVLK 2021.Q3.4 Driver Fixes "Horrifically Broken" Switchable Graphics Layer | Tux MachinesAug 11 17:08
techrights-news"While Libre-SoC began as "Libre RISC-V" envisioned as a low-power graphics/ #Vulkan accelerator, it has morphed into a hybrid CPU/GPU design built on #OpenPOWER and in very early form seeing test fabrication on a #TSMC 180nm process." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Libre-SoC-Crypto-ProjectAug 11 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libre-SoC Pursuing New Crypto Primitives & Instructions For OpenPOWER - PhoronixAug 11 17:10
techrights-news#EasyNAS 1.0.1 out with a bugfix today https://easynas.org/news/ #security #opensuse #gnu #linuxAug 11 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-easynas.org | News | EasyNAS | Making storage easyAug 11 17:11
XRevan86The naming thing is complicated.Aug 11 17:11
XRevan86"Joseon" can just mean "Korea"Aug 11 17:12
XRevan86in all sensesAug 11 17:12
schestowitzXRevan86:  http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txtAug 11 17:14
schestowitzhe knows it's not worth the paper it's onAug 11 17:15
XRevan86schestowitz: Thing is, he has a claim to the Lee dynasty of a particular Korean kingdom that was overthrown.Aug 11 17:17
XRevan86He has no more claim to the word "Joseon" than a claimant to the Romanov throne to the word "Rossia"Aug 11 17:17
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schestowitz-TRit's a trickAug 11 17:19
schestowitz-TRchange the wordAug 11 17:19
schestowitz-TRclaim to be somethingAug 11 17:19
XRevan86which could also register rossia.ru and declare some IRC network a virtual nation of the Russian EmpireAug 11 17:19
schestowitz-TRlike shivba and emailAug 11 17:19
schestowitz-TR'EMAIL" as a nameAug 11 17:19
schestowitz-TRnot the actual thingAug 11 17:19
techrights-newsSince when it LPI an LF magaphone? https://www.fosslife.org/how-sboms-strengthen-software-supply-chainAug 11 17:20
XRevan86The aforementioned USSR sect also has several successors to the gensec position with some shady paperwork to back that up.Aug 11 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | How SBOMs Strengthen the Software Supply ChainAug 11 17:20
XRevan86Maybe they can register ussr.su and make that into an IRC network.Aug 11 17:21
schestowitzwith 1:100 conversion rates?Aug 11 17:21
XRevan86schestowitz: hahAug 11 17:21
schestowitzyou'd need to start with facebook at a billion accountsAug 11 17:21
schestowitzto be left with 10 million, like an average nationAug 11 17:22
schestowitzfb is full if fake accountsAug 11 17:22
schestowitzonly fb knows how many Aug 11 17:22
schestowitztwitter also knows many are fakeAug 11 17:22
schestowitztheir estimates would not impress shareholdersAug 11 17:22
schestowitzso they keep lying like oher 'tech' companiesAug 11 17:22
schestowitzspy techAug 11 17:22
schestowitz_loghttps://twitter.com/TriciaEdwards2/status/1421026449461555200"dMacedonia's "Capitol Hill" moment in April 2017 when supporters of Gruevski stormed the parliament.Stasi gamifieAug 11 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TriciaEdwards2: @schestowitz That is total ignorance.Aug 11 17:22
schestowitzoopsAug 11 17:23
schestowitzStasi gamifiedAug 11 17:23
schestowitz^ wrong windowAug 11 17:23
techrights-newsSo badly out of date. Which version of #linux is #android 7? https://www.technovelty.org/toys/lyte-portable-projector-investigation.htmlAug 11 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technovelty.org | NO TITLEAug 11 17:25
XRevan86Also, the Russian (Moscovian) state existed from the XIII century, so it's older than the Joseon Empire :)Aug 11 17:25
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Empire_(micronation) this :DAug 11 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Romanov Empire (micronation) - WikipediaAug 11 17:28
XRevan86CrystalMath: Can ye share the above link with Andrew? Established in 1263 %)Aug 11 17:29
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154401 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 11 17:30
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154402 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesAug 11 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 11 17:31
XRevan86MinceR: https://i.redd.it/shb7kb2i3ng71.jpgAug 11 17:31
XRevan86There are definitely "nations" out there that are older and have just as much legitimacy as Andrew's Joseon.Aug 11 17:32
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: lolAug 11 17:33
schestowitz-TRmust be intentionalAug 11 17:34
schestowitz-TRno matter how you arrange themAug 11 17:34
schestowitz-TRit would be badAug 11 17:34
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes, it's lovely :)Aug 11 17:34
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schestowitz-TRhi MinceRAug 11 17:34
schestowitz-TRmib_zksz4s I meantAug 11 17:34
schestowitz-TRseems like we have a south korea situationAug 11 17:35
schestowitz-TRrefugees fleeing Aug 11 17:35
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche?wprov=srpw1_0Aug 11 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Juche - WikipediaAug 11 17:35
psydruidwelcome to the citizens of MibistanAug 11 17:36
schestowitz-TRit's also an empireAug 11 17:37
schestowitz-TRof cure frogsAug 11 17:37
schestowitz-TR*cuteAug 11 17:37
schestowitz-TRiirc, their logo is MIBBIT MIBBIT!Aug 11 17:37
schestowitz-TRJoseon has no operatora and moderatorsAug 11 17:38
schestowitz-TRthey are called umpiresAug 11 17:38
schestowitz-TRChief umpire HIHAug 11 17:38
schestowitzI just had to check if it's a French word and it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UmpireAug 11 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Umpire - WikipediaAug 11 17:39
schestowitz"The term derives from the Old French nonper, non, "not" and per, "equal": "one who is requested to act as arbiter of a dispute between two people"."Aug 11 17:39
psydruidan advocate of non-parityAug 11 17:41
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XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/08/11/alexey-navalny-indicted-for-creating-an-organization-that-infringes-on-russian-citizens-rightsAug 11 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEAug 11 17:50
XRevan86> Alexey Navalny indicted for creating an organisation that infringes on Russian citizens’ rightsAug 11 17:50
MinceR11 183121 < XRevan86> MinceR: https://i.redd.it/shb7kb2i3ng71.jpgAug 11 17:53
MinceRlolAug 11 17:53
XRevan86schestowitz: "[20:34] <rasengan[llf]> Can I write to you in confidence?"Aug 11 17:55
XRevan86I feel like I should stop reading after this point.Aug 11 17:55
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't like that ye shared that after saying "yes" to that question.Aug 11 17:56
CrystalMathoh really?Aug 11 17:59
MinceRwell, it doesn't look goodAug 11 18:00
MinceRbut i don't remember reading that articleAug 11 18:00
CrystalMaththat's not nice of schestowitzAug 11 18:00
AdmFubarhttps://hackaday.com/2021/08/11/should-you-be-able-to-repair-it-we-think-so/Aug 11 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Should You Be Able To Repair It? We Think So. | HackadayAug 11 18:06
AdmFubarhttps://hackaday.com/2021/08/10/hiding-links-in-plain-sight-with-bookmark-knocking/Aug 11 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hiding Links In Plain Sight With Bookmark Knocking | HackadayAug 11 18:13
XRevan86> This means that the annexation of joseon into Japan was null and void.Aug 11 18:13
XRevan86Oh no. Not this again!Aug 11 18:13
XRevan86USSR's dissolution was illegal, by the way.Aug 11 18:14
geriksonI'm still on FN just to see what happens, but if you're gonna need to buy crapto to connect, I'm out Aug 11 18:14
XRevan86therefore… it's still hereAug 11 18:14
geriksonnot touching the poopAug 11 18:14
gustafXRevan86: I found the USSR peeps by googling Reichsburger Aug 11 18:14
XRevan86https://youtu.be/bBMeMrPuQyUAug 11 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Simpsons - Return of The Soviet Union - YouTubeAug 11 18:14
gustafactivelow should know about them Aug 11 18:14
gustafit's just sovereign citizensAug 11 18:15
gustafSovCitsAug 11 18:15
gustaffreemen on the land Aug 11 18:15
XRevan86gustaf: yes, it's the same dealAug 11 18:15
XRevan86And Andrew Lee is going the same route as well.Aug 11 18:15
gustafyehAug 11 18:15
gustafalso thanks for the link to the Romanov Empire Aug 11 18:16
gustafso weird Aug 11 18:17
XRevan86CrystalMath: Ye wanted some context to understand what's going on better? There it is.Aug 11 18:17
XRevan86Andrew Lee thinks that the Joseon Empire was dissolved illegally, therefore it's legit, and now he wants it back.Aug 11 18:18
XRevan86I wonder if he'll manage to get as annoying as the USSR dissolution deniers. There is quite a bunch of them.Aug 11 18:19
gustafI mean, just perusing Wikipedia, he seems to have a point... but the ROK and Japan settled that in 1965Aug 11 18:19
sears_hardwarei think the part about digital nations is more interesting than some obscure first nations nonsenseAug 11 18:19
sears_hardwaresovcits as gustaf saidAug 11 18:19
gustaftell you what, if he manages to unify the Koreas, I'll give him props ;)Aug 11 18:19
XRevan86A government with nothing to govern has no point.Aug 11 18:19
sears_hardwarea government is not supposed to be distinct from the citizensAug 11 18:20
gustafalso, someone linked this... I'm honestly speechless http://www.manchukuo.net/index33e.htmAug 11 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manchukuo.net | Manchukuo Government Official WebsiteAug 11 18:20
gustafsears_hardware: governments in exile during War2? Aug 11 18:20
sears_hardwareidkAug 11 18:21
XRevan86Governments in exile (some still exist, like Belarusian) still want their territory back.Aug 11 18:21
AdmFubarhttps://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/10/desktop-and-all-in-one-arm-linux-computers-launched-with-baikal-m-processor/Aug 11 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux computers launched with Baikal-M processor - CNX SoftwareAug 11 18:21
XRevan86they're like… on holdAug 11 18:21
XRevan86> However, another project i've been contributing to - handshake - created a decentralized blockchain that nobody owns (a sea), and within that sea, I own the name joseon which only I have the private key for.  Therefore, joseon has its 'territory'Aug 11 18:23
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gustaflol, like UrbitAug 11 18:23
XRevan86A government that governs… a blockchain.Aug 11 18:24
XRevan86That will definitely end up in Wikipedia one day.Aug 11 18:25
gustafto me the funniest is the Bourbons... they had a shot to get back in France but the claimant wanted the tricolor gone Aug 11 18:25
XRevan86> But the thing is - this joseon country the weird thing about it: it has treaties with 4 nations [the US, UK, Kingdom of Belgium, and Kingdom of Denmark]Aug 11 18:27
XRevan86> These treaties hold language that specifically states: "perpetual friendship"(us) and "permanent friendship"(uk)Aug 11 18:27
XRevan86Ariadne: So that's what the perpetual friendship thing is about.Aug 11 18:27
XRevan86"Well, this will start a new era of digital nations. This is my hope." – why, my man, whyAug 11 18:28
gustaflol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Karl_Emich_of_LeiningenAug 11 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Prince Karl Emich of Leiningen - WikipediaAug 11 18:28
XRevan86What is that nation supposed to bloody do?Aug 11 18:29
gustaftax its citizens?Aug 11 18:29
XRevan86gustaf: phobos is in danger.Aug 11 18:29
Ariadnehas he actually verified these treaties are still in force lolAug 11 18:30
XRevan86gustaf: schestowitz (IRC.com account) will be thrown into a virtual prison for sharing this.Aug 11 18:30
XRevan86> but because of this nation existing and i've run by 3 diff law firms; they are all confident that this argument will hold in whatever courts _attempt_ to apply jurisdiction over itAug 11 18:30
XRevan86Ariadne: He did!Aug 11 18:30
XRevan86gustaf: Andrew as a President has a right to conscript his citizens :DAug 11 18:32
DaemonFCI basically got so tired that I passed out this morning. Might be the weather. It's been flickering between a 115 heat index and storming. That was one of the nastiest storms I've seen last night.Aug 11 18:32
XRevan86first virtual armyAug 11 18:32
XRevan86The deserters will be virtually executed.Aug 11 18:32
DaemonFCIt was pulling up trees. Left half the city without power. Comcast was down until a few minutes ago.Aug 11 18:32
XRevan86> I want to cause world peace, and I want to cause a massive cash reset.  Cryptocurrency/blockchain/etc. may catch a bad rap Aug 11 18:33
XRevan86Sounds simple enough: 1. annex freenode; 2. rename to Joseon; 3. ???; 4. world peaceAug 11 18:34
XRevan862.5: blockchain!Aug 11 18:34
gustafwell he dreams bigAug 11 18:35
gustafI'll give him that Aug 11 18:35
XRevan86gustaf: yeaAug 11 18:36
DaemonFCWell, now I know how long Facebook banned Felta.Aug 11 18:36
XRevan86He just wants to make an IPO of a cryptocurrency, and that will topple the current world order.Aug 11 18:36
DaemonFCschestowitz, 14 days.Aug 11 18:36
DaemonFCHe got back and asked "What's an alternative to Facebook that isn't a bunch of partisan stooges?" on his wall. He likes to scream a lot. Nobody really likes his posts. It's kind of sad.Aug 11 18:37
XRevan86> [21:15] <rasengan[llf]> I think it's easy for people to be good when they are full.Aug 11 18:39
XRevan86My observation is the opposite.Aug 11 18:39
isakhe doesn't seem to be an inherently bad guy though, don't think he means anything bad with what he doesAug 11 18:41
XRevan86isak: I'm pretty numb to that logic. Adolf Hitler was also a very passionate man.Aug 11 18:42
XRevan86And I've heard thousands of "Putin is a well-meaning person"Aug 11 18:43
XRevan86What are ye expecting? A cartoon villain?Aug 11 18:43
XRevan86> [21:45] <schestowitz> thanks for devoting some time to chatting, I can see I can trust you on freenode-related matters, but be aware many will try to undermine you and keep more private to give less 'dirt' awayAug 11 18:46
XRevan86"famous last words", "ничто не предвещало беды"Aug 11 18:46
XRevan86An interesting read. The HIH part is best there. But tainted by the violation of trust.Aug 11 18:50
XRevan86We should not have seen it.Aug 11 18:51
isakluckily it didn't seem to include "super" private things thoughAug 11 18:55
isakor well that is probably relativeAug 11 18:55
XRevan86Yea, and the plans have been more or less realised by now. Now we just know that it was super-spontanenous.Aug 11 18:56
XRevan86err, that it wasn'tAug 11 18:56
XRevan86And what the intentions behind that are. Because the blogpost that rasengan posted is just pure nonsense.Aug 11 18:57
isaki actually thought joseon.kr was a joke, but i'm not so sure anymoreAug 11 18:57
XRevan86isak: See that bridge? It's connected to chat.joseon.kr. It's not a joke.Aug 11 18:58
XRevan86freenode is in transition there.Aug 11 18:58
activelowmissed it gustaf , know about what?Aug 11 18:58
isakXRevan86, yeah, i'm on freenode but thought it was some elaborated joke to alias freenode.net to joseon.kr :)Aug 11 18:59
isakelaborate*Aug 11 18:59
gustafactivelow: Reichsburger movement Aug 11 18:59
XRevan86isak: It's just your brain tricking you with rationalisation :)Aug 11 18:59
XRevan86isak: Ye're trying to find a reasonable explanation to the events that are happening :)Aug 11 18:59
sears_hardwarewhewAug 11 19:01
sears_hardwarethat's some good drugs he's onAug 11 19:01
XRevan86sears_hardware: It's marijuana.Aug 11 19:01
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XRevan86Feels weird to know the exact answer to that :)Aug 11 19:02
sears_hardwareif that's marijuana i've got to try someAug 11 19:03
sears_hardwareonly where our benevolent overlords deem it is legal of courseAug 11 19:03
isaksay pizza, say no, to drugs, to yesAug 11 19:03
XRevan86sears_hardware: As long as ye're not in a leadership position.Aug 11 19:03
XRevan86Wouldn't want another community ruined to build a virtual… uh, national park for instance.Aug 11 19:05
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▃▄▃▄▆▃▆▇▅▅▄▃▅▆▅▆▄▅▆▇▅▆▆▅▄▆▆▇▅▃▄▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 24.46 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▂▂▇█▁▂▂▂▁█▂▃▁▂▃▄▂▄▁▂▃▁█▁▂▁██▇█▁ avg(k/sec) 78.30▕ swarm size (avg): 274.92  ⟲Aug 11 19:07
XRevan86Not like a virtual tour of a national park, a national park that is completely virtual.Aug 11 19:13
XRevan86all the endangered species are preserved in blockchainAug 11 19:14
XRevan86at least that's one way to implement that, I'm in no way imposingAug 11 19:14
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DaemonFCThese restaurants are still in trouble. You can tell.Aug 11 19:26
DaemonFCThey're slipping big rebates to my credit card, which already has restaurants on a big bonus category.Aug 11 19:26
DaemonFCWe've been going out to use those rebates, but when you go in there's like one person taking care of 15+ tables and half the restaurant is closed and they're actually packing people together in there.Aug 11 19:27
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MinceR11 191439 < gustaf> XRevan86: I found the USSR peeps by googling ReichsburgerAug 11 19:46
MinceRwould you like some fries with that?Aug 11 19:46
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XRevan86schestowitz: "iirc, their logo is MIBBIT MIBBIT!" – context?Aug 11 19:53
gustaflolAug 11 19:59
MinceR(audio:important) https://youtu.be/4MqK90Aq8bE?t=7Aug 11 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nuclear-Capable Interceptor Aircraft and Other Dangers of Accepting the Queens Gambit - YouTubeAug 11 20:00
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sears_hardwareMinceR: very capitalist, i look forward to philidor's rebuttalAug 11 20:06
MinceR:)Aug 11 20:07
kingoffrancere: umpires, well nonpareil is also a word and in english dictionariesAug 11 20:14
AdmFubarhttps://www.firstpost.com/health/explainer-what-we-know-about-post-recovery-symptoms-associated-with-long-covid-9878731.htmlAug 11 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Explainer: What we know about post-recovery symptoms associated with 'long' COVID-Health News , FirstpostAug 11 20:15
kingoffrancei know that because it was used for type sizes i looked up once, also was a 1968 programming languageAug 11 20:15
MinceRnonpareil is a font size though :>Aug 11 20:15
kingoffrance^Aug 11 20:15
kingoffranceso is rubyAug 11 20:15
kingoffrancepearl?Aug 11 20:16
MinceRyeahAug 11 20:16
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_point-size_namesAug 11 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Traditional point-size names - WikipediaAug 11 20:16
kingoffrancebrilliant, diamond, pearl, ruby, nonpareil   5 pedagogical langauges based on markov algorithms   "nonpareil a machine level machine independent language for the study of semantics" from foldocAug 11 20:17
gustafMinceR: wow, great link, thanksAug 11 20:23
gustafnon-ironic :)Aug 11 20:23
gustafI love stuff lik thisAug 11 20:23
gustafhttps://twitter.com/js_thrill/status/1424909879794339842Aug 11 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@js_thrill: New tired/wired just dropped: https://t.co/MJKbEFV4i9Aug 11 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@js_thrill: New tired/wired just dropped: https://t.co/MJKbEFV4i9Aug 11 20:25
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DaemonFC<MinceR> would you like some fries with that?Aug 11 20:53
DaemonFCNo, but some Reichsmayo on the side would be great.Aug 11 20:53
*psydruid est nonpareilAug 11 20:54
MinceRlolAug 11 20:54
XRevan86Кого там psydruid ест?Aug 11 20:56
XRevan86Bad joke, I know %)Aug 11 20:56
psydruidМедведя :)Aug 11 20:58
AdmFubarhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NonpareilsAug 11 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nonpareils - WikipediaAug 11 20:58
DaemonFCMinceR, It's weird how things can work out, right?Aug 11 21:04
DaemonFCTake garbage food products that were designed for depressions, so that people could afford to eat _something_.Aug 11 21:05
DaemonFCThen they turned into "premium" foods that command one price hike after another.Aug 11 21:05
DaemonFCI usually keep some low sodium generic (Walmart brand) SPAM in the pantry.Aug 11 21:06
DaemonFCThen when something calls for ham, I just pull out some of that and use it instead.Aug 11 21:06
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▂▅█▅▄▅▅▅▃▄▁▃▄▃▇▂▄▅▃▇▂▃▅▆▁▄▅▂▂▂▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 26.78 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▃█▂█▁▁▁▁▁▅▁▂▁▁▂█▁▂▂▁▂▁█▂█▁▂▁▄█▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 85.08▕ swarm size (avg): 274.85  ⟲Aug 11 21:07
MinceRDaemonFC: if it's really garbage, why do you eat it? :>Aug 11 21:08
DaemonFCI don't know. It's tasty. It's pretty versatile in cooking.Aug 11 21:09
MinceRsounds like it isn't garbageAug 11 21:09
DaemonFCMom used to go "EWWW!" back in the 90s when I'd ask dad to pick some up at the store for me and she smelled it frying in the kitchen.Aug 11 21:09
DaemonFCWouldn't even taste it.Aug 11 21:09
DaemonFCThen last year with the run on the grocery stores, she went out and bought dozens of cans for herself so they'd have something to eat that kept for a long time.Aug 11 21:09
DaemonFCI asked her if she had eaten any yet and she said yeah and it wasn't bad.Aug 11 21:11
DaemonFCIt just got a reputation. Which is funny, because it's everywhere in Hawaii, and in Asian countries.Aug 11 21:11
DaemonFCYou go to fine dining restaurants, and they're serving meals with SPAM in them.Aug 11 21:11
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLih-WQwBScAug 11 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spam stems from Monty Python sketch - YouTubeAug 11 21:13
MinceRargh, bad linkAug 11 21:13
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4EAug 11 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monty Python SPAM - YouTubeAug 11 21:14
DaemonFCI made a slow cooker breakfast casserole with it the other day.Aug 11 21:16
DaemonFCSPAM and eggs and hashbrowns mostly. Some red and green bell pepper, green onions, sharp cheddar.Aug 11 21:17
DaemonFCThe Monty Python sketch has her mention spam and eggs and beans.Aug 11 21:17
DaemonFCWhich might be okay, except they'd probably be those British baked beans.Aug 11 21:17
DaemonFCJust beans and tomato sauce. Terrible.Aug 11 21:18
DaemonFCMinceR, One part of B5 that makes no sense are the Lurkers in Down Below.Aug 11 21:21
MinceRi haven't seen B5Aug 11 21:21
DaemonFCWhy would you jump on a transport heading for a space station where everything costs 4-5 times what it does on Earth and there's a planned economy, looking for "something better"?Aug 11 21:21
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MinceRmaybe they, too, believe in planned economyAug 11 21:22
MinceRlike the "heroic anti-communists" in fideathAug 11 21:22
DaemonFCOne of the things that they complained about in the earlier episodes was how expensive everything was, and that was the command staff complaining about it.Aug 11 21:23
DaemonFCAnd how it was "impossible" to get eggs and bacon (which could soon actually happen in California, because the voters there are stupid).Aug 11 21:23
DaemonFCMinceR, Planned Economies fall apart for various reasons.Aug 11 21:31
DaemonFCSuch as the people planning them not anticipating actual demand for what the economy produces, or putting inept people into positions to produce it and then not enough gets produced, and black markets appearing for contraband merchandise.Aug 11 21:32
MinceRit's an unworkable systemAug 11 21:32
DaemonFCA market economy might overproduce, but there's disincentive for it. Instead of pawning off the losses onto the population as a whole, they have to take the loss and possibly go under for it.Aug 11 21:33
DaemonFCThe US is not a pure market economy, and it should have let many things fail, not the least of which is General Motors.Aug 11 21:33
DaemonFCBut it's better than many.Aug 11 21:33
phobos/jnand Wells FargoAug 11 21:34
DaemonFCWells Fargo is in trouble. The government won't go far enough with them but nobody trusts them anymore.Aug 11 21:39
XRevan86phobos: Are ye actually staying on Joseon? Why not join us directly?Aug 11 21:47
XRevan86phobos: And while I'm at it, did it manage to surpass 1200 people?Aug 11 21:47
phobos/jn* There are 6 users and 1161 invisible on 13 serversAug 11 21:49
phobos/jn* 5 :operator(s) onlineAug 11 21:49
phobos/jn* 264 :unknown connectionsAug 11 21:49
phobos/jn* 5051 :channels formedAug 11 21:49
phobos/jn* I have 317 clients and 1 serversAug 11 21:49
phobos/jn* Current local users: 317  Max: 318Aug 11 21:49
phobos/jn* Current global users: 1167  Max: 1170Aug 11 21:49
phobos/jnas of a few seconds agoAug 11 21:50
XRevan86phobos: I only needed the last one, but thanks.Aug 11 21:50
phobos/jnnpAug 11 21:50
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schestowitzit will not grow because you consider 1) how to joinAug 11 22:13
schestowitz2) the growth trajectoryAug 11 22:13
schestowitz3) lots of empty or almost-empty channelsAug 11 22:13
phobos/jnCurrent global users: 1169  Max: 1173Aug 11 22:21
XRevan86two more, amazingAug 11 22:21
phobos/jnawesome growth... 2 users in ~30 minutesAug 11 22:21
phobos/jn;)Aug 11 22:21
schestowitz-TRsome of them are botsAug 11 22:21
XRevan86phobos: Could be Ariadne trying to sneak inAug 11 22:21
schestowitz-TRlike  "bridge"Aug 11 22:21
XRevan86I think my comment was better.Aug 11 22:22
schestowitz-TRi am preparing an article about a diploma mill in albaniaAug 11 22:22
schestowitz-TRconnected to epo corruptionAug 11 22:22
phobos/jnmaybe it was andrew trying to inflate his user countAug 11 22:22
XRevan86phobos: Or presences for all his juridical entities in the Joseon nation :)Aug 11 22:25
XRevan86incorporated with an IRC.com registrationAug 11 22:25
schestowitz-TRwelcome to IRC.comAug 11 22:27
schestowitz-TRIRC.com is IRCAug 11 22:27
schestowitz-TRIRC is hundreds of thousandsAug 11 22:27
schestowitz-TRIRC.com is barely a thousandAug 11 22:28
schestowitz-TRi.e. less than 1%Aug 11 22:28
MinceR"millions!"Aug 11 22:29
MinceRhttp://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2237Aug 11 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/16/2021Aug 11 22:38
schestowitz-TRit's alliiiive, igorAug 11 22:41
MinceR"I live... AGAIN!"Aug 11 22:44
schestowitz-TRwell, to Lee's creditAug 11 22:44
schestowitz-TRhe got people talking about him for a dayAug 11 22:44
schestowitz-TRbut the cost was highAug 11 22:44
schestowitz-TRturning 9000 users into just 1000Aug 11 22:45
schestowitz-TRwhen 1000 become 100 nobody will bother to mentionAug 11 22:45
MinceRare you sure? :>Aug 11 22:45
XRevan86schestowitz: I am aware about that it's publicity, but when people are questioning someone's sanity, the "bad PR is still PR" formula doesn't quite work.Aug 11 22:45
schestowitz-TRgoing from 100,000 to 10,000? He got tons of press coverageAug 11 22:45
schestowitz-TRand blog posts saying leave freenodeAug 11 22:45
XRevan86At least not for his line of work. If he were an artist then sure.Aug 11 22:47
schestowitz-TRah, I see...Aug 11 22:49
schestowitz-TRwell, not good publicityAug 11 22:49
schestowitz-TRyet worse, a liability to OTHER businessAug 11 22:50
schestowitz-TRnotably PIA and shells gameAug 11 22:50
schestowitz-TRbecause people can now questions their legitimacy given the sanity of the leader and what he did to freenodeAug 11 22:50
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes.Aug 11 22:50
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schestowitz-TRlike, directing all traffic of PIA users in the US through "freedomtech" in the ukAug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRfirm with no assetsAug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRand not even informing PIA clientAug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRwhich sounds super dodgyAug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRsketchyAug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRhe's a sketcherAug 11 22:51
XRevan86He got something in his hands that is a lot like a business and ruined it in three months of management.Aug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRmaking huge  change to freenode without clues or advance noticeAug 11 22:51
schestowitz-TRdoing blog posts AFTER breaking thingsAug 11 22:52
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: MISmanagmenetAug 11 22:52
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schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/dodgy-legal-luminary/Aug 11 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part VI: A Learned Legal Luminary | TechrightsAug 11 22:52
schestowitzparts 7 and 8 will be longer and betterAug 11 22:52
schestowitznow we deal with real gangstersAug 11 22:53
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes. So his involvement as a manager is going to negatively impact any venture.Aug 11 22:53
XRevan86just from distrust in his abilitiesAug 11 22:53
schestowitzkape likewiseAug 11 22:53
schestowitzhe threw away the nameAug 11 22:53
schestowitzand become about himAug 11 22:53
schestowitzworth checking next kape reportAug 11 22:53
schestowitzand whether he is still even named thereAug 11 22:53
schestowitzmaybe they too got rid of himAug 11 22:54
schestowitzthey're a public companyAug 11 22:54
schestowitzand shareholders might start asking uncomfortable questionsAug 11 22:54
XRevan86schestowitz: PIA was making uninvolvement statements even in the early days of the takeover.Aug 11 22:54
XRevan86schestowitz: Imperial Family Companies on its website presents both Shells™ and freenode (still old name).Aug 11 22:58
XRevan86It's a bit odd as when I looked at Shells™ registration, it wasn't mentioned as a subsidiary.Aug 11 22:58
XRevan86https://xkcd.com/2501/Aug 11 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Average FamiliarityAug 11 23:03
schestowitz-TRShells gameAug 11 23:06
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▂▁▃▂▄▅▂▇▅▂▅▂▃▂▄▅▂▁▅▅▆▂▆▃▅▃▄▂▅▅▆▇▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.30 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂██▁█▁▁▁▂▃█▃▁▂▁█▂▁█▆▁▁█▂▁▂▂█▂▂▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 65.05▕ swarm size (avg): 274.78  ⟲Aug 11 23:07
schestowitz-TRXRevan86: would be interesting to knowAug 11 23:20
schestowitz-TR1) which channels are best atttended at new 'freenode'Aug 11 23:20
schestowitz-TR2) which are most activeAug 11 23:20
schestowitz-TRphobos: can you run the command    /listAug 11 23:20
schestowitz-TRthen sort by number of usersAug 11 23:21
schestowitz-TRor:Aug 11 23:21
schestowitz-TR   /list --YESAug 11 23:21
schestowitz-TRiirc, MinceR has an account there tooAug 11 23:21
XRevan86schestowitz: I didn't enable multi-connect on tr-bridge, so I can't exploit it to do more than bridging.Aug 11 23:22
schestowitz-TRwe can even see how many channels in total have users in themAug 11 23:22
schestowitz-TRor what %Aug 11 23:22
DaemonFChttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=think+inflation+is+bad+now+let's+take+a+stepAug 11 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-html.duckduckgo.com | think inflation is bad now let's take a step at DuckDuckGoAug 11 23:23
schestowitz-TRddmicrosoftAug 11 23:23
DaemonFCNPR blasts out spam articles all over their "affiliates" to tell us to get over the inflation panic.Aug 11 23:23
DaemonFCIt goes on for pages and pages.Aug 11 23:23
DaemonFCSame article.Aug 11 23:23
schestowitz-TRNPR, funded by Microsoft and by GatesAug 11 23:23
schestowitz-TRtwo fraudstersAug 11 23:23
schestowitz-TRmaybe they should lessen savingsAug 11 23:24
schestowitz-TRand up the inflationAug 11 23:24
schestowitz-TRso they can pay the deficitAug 11 23:24
XRevan86schestowitz: Ye can login there too unless ye dropped your account. Setting TLS and SASL up is a good idea in general on a personal level.Aug 11 23:24
schestowitz-TRand then use that money to bail out oligarchs and tech giants some moreAug 11 23:24
schestowitz-TRGoogle now give PAYCUTS to staff working from homeAug 11 23:24
XRevan86I don't want to make one.Aug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRbecause, you know, Google is poorAug 11 23:25
Ariadneall companies will try thatAug 11 23:25
Ariadneit is up to employees to refuse itAug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRyesAug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRbut google is a large companyAug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRso we need to stop them at the tracksAug 11 23:25
AriadneagreedAug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRI hope many employees will sue, class action evenAug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRto make a pointAug 11 23:25
schestowitz-TRpeople still use GoogleAug 11 23:26
schestowitz-TRamid pandemicAug 11 23:26
schestowitz-TRmaybe even more than before it all startedAug 11 23:26
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/08/11/meme-diplomatic-mill/Aug 11 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Diplomatic Mill | TechrightsAug 11 23:27
schestowitzEPO is becoming a stain on the EUAug 11 23:27
schestowitzEU must do somethingAug 11 23:27
schestowitzanythingAug 11 23:27
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schestowitzdoes anyone know https://predator-os.com/ ?Aug 11 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Predator-OS Linux for pentesting,ethical hacking,secure,privacyAug 11 23:37
schestowitzI never saw it beforeAug 11 23:37
schestowitzlinuxtoday mentions itAug 11 23:37
schestowitzgiven how new it is to me, you have to wonder if you can trust itAug 11 23:38
schestowitzmaybe that itself is the honeyportAug 11 23:38
schestowitz*potAug 11 23:38
schestowitzand it is not listed by distrowatch either, afaikAug 11 23:38
DaemonFCSomeone is taking old Gameboy Advance units and upgrading the cases and to a glass screen cover.Aug 11 23:46
DaemonFCLooks pretty nice.Aug 11 23:46
activelowschestowitz: some ubuntu with wallpapers and gui theme swappedAug 11 23:47
schestowitz-TRyou can emulate gameboyAug 11 23:47
schestowitz-TRon much better machines with better casingAug 11 23:47
schestowitz-TRactivelow: ok, so another ubuntu cloneAug 11 23:47
schestowitz-TRkali and parrot are debian-based, iircAug 11 23:48
activelowwaste of timeAug 11 23:48
schestowitzthanks for checkingAug 11 23:49
schestowitzwe need more independent distrosAug 11 23:49
schestowitznot recycled or rehashed onesAug 11 23:50
schestowitzyou could write scripts to create themAug 11 23:50
schestowitzthis is what figosdev did for spinsAug 11 23:50
schestowitzI mean, get debianAug 11 23:50
schestowitzthen run a bunch of commands to swap around settings, fetch software etcAug 11 23:50
schestowitzno need for another OSIAug 11 23:50
schestowitzrPath and otherd did thisAug 11 23:51
schestowitzyou had an online configuratorAug 11 23:51
schestowitzyou make your own distroAug 11 23:51
schestowitzthen you download the pre-customed one as ISOAug 11 23:51
schestowitzthat never quite caught on, others tried as wellAug 11 23:51
activelowmost of the distro circus is scamAug 11 23:51
activelowmore reviews and testing are required, and for this source-based systems and developersAug 11 23:51
schestowitzit's like in the old nintendo daysAug 11 23:52
Ariadnemost of the good parts of rPath got integrated into alpine, at leastAug 11 23:52
schestowitzbuy a 1000-in-1 game collectionAug 11 23:52
schestowitzthan 100 of those games would be the same game with slightly different name or coloursAug 11 23:52
schestowitzAriadne: I didn't know thisAug 11 23:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/08/the-computer-anybody-can-edit/Aug 11 23:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Computer Anybody Can Edit | TechrightsAug 11 23:53
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schestowitzthere is also suse studioAug 11 23:54
schestowitzand several more whose name I forgot by nowAug 11 23:54
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schestowitzOSI’s 2021 Board Election is Concluded https://opensource.org/2021ElectionConcluded seems like it was compromised again: http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/Aug 11 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSI’s 2021 Board Election is Concluded | Open Source InitiativeAug 11 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSI’s Defunct Elections (Privacy Breach), Conflict of Interest (Nicholson), and Other Lingering Problems | TechrightsAug 11 23:57

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