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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: can you read another, please? | Oct 12 00:02 |
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| schestowitz-TR | maybe MinceR wants to have a go? | Oct 12 00:04 |
| AdmFubar | You ducking the tornadoes out your way Daemon? | Oct 12 00:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Just some rain, really. | Oct 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | WGN didn't mention tornadoes, just bisexual Superman. | Oct 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | I guess while they're updating Superman anyway, he can be a bisexual who reads scripts handed to him from Rupert Murdoch and occasionally recommends products from Amazon. | Oct 12 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | He spends his time making advances at Lois and Jimmy, and get gets fired because they joined the MeToo movement. | Oct 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's kind of a catch-22 to express any sort of fondness for someone these days. | Oct 12 00:15 |
| AdmFubar | chicago are is under a tornado watch... southwest of the city is a tornado warning | Oct 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't, you'll never know if they're interested in you, and if you do, it might be the end of your career and there could be a lawsuit. | Oct 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | But liberals are always looking for ways to get in and attack any semblance of normality and decency. | Oct 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | And since you can hardly have a family without expressing interest in someone or engaging in pair bonding, they have to make it professionally dangerous to the point where you'll give up and find a nice sex robot or something. | Oct 12 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, One of the things I never noticed in Fallout New Vegas is FISTO the sex robot. | Oct 12 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | I finally decided to do more side quests and it came up in one of them. | Oct 12 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | People were laughing about the noises it would make in the cutscenes where the screen goes dark and my copy doesn't do that. | Oct 12 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: mind if I pass a draft? | Oct 12 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm guessing some nasty women complained and got it removed in a patch. | Oct 12 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are getting tons of leaks | Oct 12 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, sure | Oct 12 00:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks. http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/swiss-roll-legal-fudge/ | Oct 12 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Betrayal Not Only of Swiss Workers But All European Workers, Courtesy of Roland Grossenbacher and Christian Bock | Techrights | Oct 12 00:21 | |
| MinceR | Kit Fisto? | Oct 12 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: I used your alpha male animation | Oct 12 00:25 |
| schestowitz | in http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/swiss-epo-role/ | Oct 12 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IX: More Holes Than Swiss Cheese | Techrights | Oct 12 00:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks okay. | Oct 12 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Making dinner. | Oct 12 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | ty :-) | Oct 12 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | enjoy dinner | Oct 12 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | say hi to mandy | Oct 12 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how the "coffee marinade" will work out, but it was cheap to whip up. | Oct 12 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly just leftover coffee from this morning. | Oct 12 00:29 |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 12 00:36 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156667 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 12 00:39 | |
| techrights-news | #MatrixChat Adoption by Community in 2021 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156668 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Matrix Chat Adoption by Community in 2021 | Tux Machines | Oct 12 00:40 | |
| techrights-news | #Seahorse : Manage Your Passwords & #Encryption Keys in Linux • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156669 #freesw #gnu #linux | Oct 12 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seahorse: Manage Your Passwords & Encryption Keys in Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 12 00:40 | |
| techrights-news | #Gaming on #Fedora • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156670 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gaming on Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 12 00:41 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156671 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #EPO | Oct 12 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 12 00:41 | |
| schestowitz | > Re: Delta Variant specialist busy at work (not PhotoShopped) | Oct 12 00:43 |
| schestowitz | I remember this photo. | Oct 12 00:43 |
| schestowitz | The sociopaths who govern FL refuse to even reveal how many it kills; like North Korea and China they worry more about their image than about reality. | Oct 12 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | "But he also remembers printing out the entirety of Linux’s kernel code. “I don’t recommend doing this today.”" | Oct 12 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Linux Foundation published an article about Walmart today. | Oct 12 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | I had no idea what any of it even meant. | Oct 12 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | That's how bad the bullshit is getting. | Oct 12 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | They use codewords now to describe relatively simple computing concepts so they sound trendy. | Oct 12 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it means something if you translate it. | Oct 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, LF is "poo" | Oct 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | said one who worked there | Oct 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | Carla Schroder | Oct 12 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Other than a few bugs here and there which really are hardly worth mentioning, Debian 11 works well. | Oct 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | cool :-) | Oct 12 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | I've had more trouble from that damned T-Mobile router and NordVPN. | Oct 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I move to 11" | Oct 12 00:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Debian, not Service Pack 11 | Oct 12 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering opening up the router and splicing in an external antenna. | Oct 12 00:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | yoiu can run gemini from home | Oct 12 00:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | from your debian laptop | Oct 12 00:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's very easy | Oct 12 00:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you keep it turned on, it'll serve pages | Oct 12 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe it takes megabytes to load CNN. | Oct 12 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Megabytes, so I can read an article! | Oct 12 00:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not the main bottleneck | Oct 12 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | CPU is | Oct 12 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and RAM | Oct 12 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | do a benchmak | Oct 12 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | for one article | Oct 12 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's much worse with the ad blocker off. | Oct 12 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/business/gas-prices-oil-opec/index.html | Oct 12 00:52 |
| altlink_c37 | 📣 cnn.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gas prices skyrocket as the global energy crisis worsens - CNN | Oct 12 00:52 | |
| altlink_c37 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/business/gas-prices-oil-opec/index.html | Oct 12 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Gas prices skyrocket as the global energy crisis worsens - CNN | Oct 12 00:52 | |
| DaemonFC | They don't mention that Biden is issuing oil drilling permits faster than Trump was. | Oct 12 00:53 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Extreme Views About #SoftwareFreedom http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/fud-facepalm/ #freesw #fud | Oct 12 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Extreme Views About Software Freedom | Techrights | Oct 12 00:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: Biden is "good cop" | Oct 12 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they both run a police state | Oct 12 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | with vaccine MANDATES | Oct 12 00:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a rather weak vaccine | Oct 12 00:54 |
| techrights-news | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IX: More Holes Than Swiss Cheese http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/swiss-epo-role/ #europe #corruption #iloat #patents | Oct 12 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IX: More Holes Than Swiss Cheese | Techrights | Oct 12 00:54 | |
| DaemonFC | https://news.yahoo.com/illinois-eviction-moratorium-over-whats-210000514.html | Oct 12 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Illinois' eviction moratorium is over. What's next? | Oct 12 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm no expert, but I'd say evictions, logically. | Oct 12 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to buy more time from the 'peasants' | Oct 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the people will revolt soon | Oct 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they can pass more laws with pandemic as fig leaf | Oct 12 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm hearing stories of landlords refusing the state grant money to keep people paid up. | Oct 12 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | THey just want you out now if you can't pay. They know the program will run out of money eventually and they'll have to take you back to court in a few months. | Oct 12 00:56 |
| techrights-news | Betrayal Not Only of Swiss Workers But All European Workers, Courtesy of #RolandGrossenbacher and #ChristianBock http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/swiss-roll-legal-fudge/ #europe #corruption #iloat | Oct 12 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Betrayal Not Only of Swiss Workers But All European Workers, Courtesy of Roland Grossenbacher and Christian Bock | Techrights | Oct 12 00:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The landlord raised our rent $25. | Oct 12 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | yay | Oct 12 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | But he's back at advertising units in this building for $20 more than that. | Oct 12 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | because things are booming anyway | Oct 12 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | next: energy prices | Oct 12 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | then food prices | Oct 12 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | they'll say it's because of "transport cost" | Oct 12 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome Greater Great Depression | Oct 12 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, That's fine. I don't think he knows I got a small washer so I don't have to use his expensive broken down shit. | Oct 12 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | You have to do your laundry in smaller loads. 3 loads is about 1 full size washer. | Oct 12 00:58 |
| techrights-news | The 168th Meeting of the #EPO Administrative Council as a Test of the EPO's Oversight Mechanisms http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/epo-administrative-council-168th-meeting/ #europe #corruption #iloat #patents | Oct 12 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The 168th Meeting of the EPO Administrative Council as a Test of the EPO’s Oversight Mechanisms | Techrights | Oct 12 00:58 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I opened a money market checking account just to pay the rent out of. | Oct 12 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I get 6 checks or debit card purchases per month, but that's fine because I only write one check on it, to him. | Oct 12 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb, handover at work | Oct 12 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | That way it sits there and earns interest until he cashes it, and the checks are free. | Oct 12 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | So no buying money orders. | Oct 12 00:59 |
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| techrights-news | Building a Retro GNU/Linux #Gaming Computer - Part 7: The Arena Eternal | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-7-the-arena-eternal ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Oct 12 01:10 |
| altlink_c37 | 📣 gamingonlinux.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 01:10 |
| altlink_c37 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-7-the-arena-eternal | Oct 12 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 7: The Arena Eternal | GamingOnLinux | Oct 12 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-7-the-arena-eternal ) | Oct 12 01:10 | |
| techrights-news | Book of Travels is a thoroughly strange take on an online RPG now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/book-of-travels-is-a-thoroughly-strange-take-on-an-online-rpg-now-in-early-access ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/12/#latest | Oct 12 01:11 |
| altlink_c37 | 📣 gamingonlinux.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 01:11 |
| altlink_c37 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/book-of-travels-is-a-thoroughly-strange-take-on-an-online-rpg-now-in-early-access | Oct 12 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Book of Travels is a thoroughly strange take on an online RPG now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux | Oct 12 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Oct 12 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/book-of-travels-is-a-thoroughly-strange-take-on-an-online-rpg-now-in-early-access ) | Oct 12 01:11 | |
| techrights-news | Destination Linux 247: Is Firefox Slowly Dying? Can Mozilla Save It? ⚓ https://destinationlinux.org/episode-247/ ䷉ #destinationlinux #gnu #linux | Oct 12 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 247: Is Firefox Slowly Dying? Can Mozilla Save It? - Destination Linux | Oct 12 01:12 | |
| techrights-news | DD Is Useless: Just Use CAT Instead - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7cO4SEsoZxg ䷉ #video #invidious #gnu #linux | Oct 12 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | DD Is Useless: Just Use CAT Instead - Invidious | Oct 12 01:13 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▆▄▇▂▆▅▇▅▇▃▇▄▄▆▆▆▆▅▃▅▁▂▄▂▃▇▅▄▅▆▇▁ avg(k/sec) 27.03 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▁█▂▃▄▅▄▅▁▆▃▂▂▃▃▄▃▃▁▁▄▁▄▃▄▃▃▁▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 16.40▕ swarm size (avg): 260.73 ⟲ | Oct 12 01:18 |
| techrights-news | RMS: "Although I revile what people wish to say nowadays, I don't believe censorship can lead to anything but tyranny." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_October_2021_(Celebrating_freedom_of_speech) | Oct 12 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Oct 12 01:25 | |
| MinceR | good luck zeroing out only the start of a block device with cat | Oct 12 01:25 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at how to install #Debian 11.1, the #KDE edition." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pZal7vAhb6U #gnu #linux | Oct 12 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Debian 11.1 Run Through - Invidious | Oct 12 01:26 | |
| techrights-news | #linuxfoundation #openwashing #walmart now, i.e. the usual PR services http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation | Oct 12 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Oct 12 01:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Poland is headed for a confrontation with the EU about whether the EU courts are superior to Polish courts, as the EU requires of member countries." #upc #teamupc #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt #epo https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_October_2021_%28Poland_and_EU%29 | Oct 12 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Oct 12 01:28 | |
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| techrights-news | "Some of those minors were children; others were adolescents. The article lumps them together, so we can't tell how many were in each age range. Please do not call adolescents "children"; that tends to infantilize them." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_October_2021_%28Losing_parent_or_caregiver_to_Covid-19%29 | Oct 12 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Oct 12 01:34 | |
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| techrights-news | Rescuing a Frozen #GNU Linux System With Some Magic - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/rescuing-a-frozen-linux-system-with-some-magic/ ䷉ #boilingsteam #howtos | Oct 12 01:38 |
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| techrights-news | #microsoft #windows is a legacy OS https://libreoffice-dev.blogspot.com/2021/10/you-use-windows-7-and-libreoffice-71.html | Oct 12 01:40 |
| techrights-news | #Games: Building a Retro Linux Gaming Compute, Book of Travels, and The Room • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156672 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 01:42 |
| techrights-news | #OSCAL, Open Labs, #Mozilla & grooming women for Outreachy • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156673 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 01:42 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156674 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 01:42 |
| techrights-news | Linux Can Now Run on Apple’s M1 Chipset http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156507#comment-31339 | Oct 12 01:44 |
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| techrights-news | #phoronix shilling #wsl again. Sign. Nobody uses this crap, Michael, and it's an ATTACK on #gnu #linux http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ don't help #Microsoft #googlebombing | Oct 12 01:46 |
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| techrights-news | "Wow, what nice guys micro$oft :P They are starting to make more and more stuff only available through their store something no one asked for but a more apple move." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1283980-microsoft-publishes-wsl-preview-inside-the-windows-11-store | Oct 12 01:48 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 01:49 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1283980-microsoft-publishes-wsl-preview-inside-the-windows-11-store | Oct 12 01:49 |
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| techrights-news | Things To Consider When Filing Bug Reports - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=g8Iht0vE2y4 ䷉ #video #invidious | Oct 12 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/12/developer-of-the-better-app-which-provides-a-content-blocker-for-safari-considers-quitting-due-to-apples-plans-to-invade-user-privacy-with-csam-scanner/ | Oct 12 01:52 |
| techrights-news | I'm taking note of who's shilling #microsoft attack on #gnu #linux to googlebomb our news with #vista11 spam | Oct 12 01:53 |
| techrights-news | #Q4OS 4.6 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1HQoChMEE_M ䷉ #video #invidious #gnu #linux | Oct 12 01:54 |
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| techrights-news | Richard Stallman links to a #billgates -bribed paper that is responsible for the murder of journalists https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_October_2021_%28Journalist_murders%29 e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/10/julian-assange-ecuador-embassy-wikileaks-us-sweden | Oct 12 01:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Oct 12 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The maintainer of Better sounds an awful lot like me as a teenager. | Oct 12 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | I tried to disentangle the ads and tracking mess from the web as it existed then with a HOSTS file. | Oct 12 01:59 |
| techrights-news | #zdnet is shilling #vista11 in the "LINUX" section. #boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet | Oct 12 01:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Oct 12 01:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, Windows 9x had a bug that was never fixed where if the HOSTS file was more than I think 150 KB, it would be horribly slow and your applications would start giving you random lookup errors. | Oct 12 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | So I ended up trying to figure out how prevalent the most common pests were and putting them into a slimmer HOSTS file, and then I noticed that lookups to 0.0.0.0 failed faster and the file was smaller than with 127.0.0.1. | Oct 12 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | It was crude, but sufficient, to use a HOSTS file that way back then. I even started installing spyware into a scratch copy of Windows to see what ad servers it would perform lookups to, and then I added them in an adware/spyware section because I had room left. | Oct 12 02:02 |
| techrights-news | No, #deleteWindows and other software with #backdoors in it https://kifarunix.com/is-a-firewall-box-all-you-need-for-home-and-small-office-security/ | Oct 12 02:02 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 kifarunix.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 02:02 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kifarunix.com/is-a-firewall-box-all-you-need-for-home-and-small-office-security/ | Oct 12 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is a Firewall Box All You Need for Home and Small Office Security? - kifarunix.com | Oct 12 02:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://kifarunix.com/is-a-firewall-box-all-you-need-for-home-and-small-office-security/ ) | Oct 12 02:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Today, Windows Defender will pop up and warn you that something tried modifying the HOSTS file and then reset it if you try to modify it. | Oct 12 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | :-) | Oct 12 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | So you have to exclude it from being monitored. Then if you add any of the Microsoft Telemetry or ad networks to it, Windows will disregard those entries. | Oct 12 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Windows is legacy to us | Oct 12 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's hope it dies fast | Oct 12 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the WSL shills are out in full force | Oct 12 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. zdnet, brad linder, and michael larabel | Oct 12 02:04 |
| techrights-news | Latest #Openwashing by #LinuxFoundation • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156675 #walmart #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 02:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Openwashing by Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 12 02:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I guess Mozilla doesn't really want people using ESR releases of Firefox. | Oct 12 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | So why do they even have them? | Oct 12 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | THey hide "Linux" from the download page now. | Oct 12 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | Just Mac and Windows. | Oct 12 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | well... | Oct 12 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | many gnu/linux distros COME with Firefox | Oct 12 02:14 |
| *activelow didn't touch any modern browser in weeks | Oct 12 02:14 | |
| schestowitz-TR | by default | Oct 12 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some can install it with package manager | Oct 12 02:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I doubt many gnu/linux users get binaries from moz | Oct 12 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: mayeb do an essay about it | Oct 12 02:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I read about people who went no GUI for weeks | Oct 12 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | The Flatpak and Snap versions are probably more popular than the tarbalss. | Oct 12 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | *tarballs | Oct 12 02:16 |
| techrights-news | This is NOT competitive with #gnu #linux SBCs and moreover it comes with #malware ... a FAILURE in the making for sure. https://liliputing.com/2021/10/morefine-m6-is-a-tiny-pc-powered-by-intel-jasper-lake-crowdfunding.html | Oct 12 02:17 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 liliputing.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Morefine M6 is a tiny PC powered by Intel Jasper Lake (Crowdfunding) - Liliputing | Oct 12 02:17 | |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://liliputing.com/2021/10/morefine-m6-is-a-tiny-pc-powered-by-intel-jasper-lake-crowdfunding.html | Oct 12 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Morefine M6 is a tiny PC powered by Intel Jasper Lake (Crowdfunding) - Liliputing | Oct 12 02:17 | |
| DaemonFC | You can just deploy it as an application image and get the latest version and completely bypass Debian if you want. | Oct 12 02:17 |
| techrights-news | "Here at FOSSlife, we stand with this global effort and aim to remove barriers to learning..." and promote #microsoft / #proprietarySoftware with #openwashing of that criminal firm https://www.fosslife.org/recognizing-international-day-girl | Oct 12 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Recognizing International Day of the Girl | Oct 12 02:18 | |
| DaemonFC | DuckDuckGo now puts Microsoft's browser extension store ahead of Google's. | Oct 12 02:18 |
| techrights-news | New GNU/Linux Screencasts and Videos • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156679 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New GNU/Linux Screencasts and Videos | Tux Machines | Oct 12 02:19 | |
| techrights-news | #pgAdmin 4 v6.0 Released • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156680 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pgAdmin 4 v6.0 Released | Tux Machines | Oct 12 02:19 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they're a Micreosoft front | Oct 12 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they use Bing and Azure | Oct 12 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | hosted by Microsoft | Oct 12 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | queries Microsoft | Oct 12 02:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | you gotta facedesk when you see gnu/linux users shilling ddg | Oct 12 02:20 |
| activelow | don't intend to, google blocks tor exits | Oct 12 02:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they get so badly and deeplt offended if you point this out to them | Oct 12 02:21 |
| activelow | i am not shilling this, it is a fact | Oct 12 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "damn you, i was enjoying ddg illusion" | Oct 12 02:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "now all the fun is gone and microsoft knows many bad things about me" | Oct 12 02:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Walmart-L3AF-eBPF | Oct 12 02:23 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 02:23 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Walmart-L3AF-eBPF | Oct 12 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Walmart Pushes Open-Source L3AF To Help Out eBPF Ecosystem - Phoronix | Oct 12 02:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Walmart Pushes Open-Source L3AF To Help Out eBPF Ecosystem - Phoronix | Oct 12 02:23 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2021/10/11/1045084433/no-charges-will-be-filed-against-officers-who-fatally-shot-winston-smith-in-minn | Oct 12 02:24 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 npr.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 02:24 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2021/10/11/1045084433/no-charges-will-be-filed-against-officers-who-fatally-shot-winston-smith-in-minn | Oct 12 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | No charges will be filed against officers in the fatal shooting of Winston Smith : NPR | Oct 12 02:24 | |
| DaemonFC | When asked, the government said there was no Winston Smith, and therefore it couldn't file charges. | Oct 12 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | And then it deleted its own statement too. | Oct 12 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 504 @ https://web.archive.org/save/_embed/https://www.npr.org/2021/10/11/1045084433/no-charges-will-be-filed-against-officers-who-fatally-shot-winston-smith-in-minn ) | Oct 12 02:25 | |
| techrights-news | #Lutris out to #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lutris-0.5.9-Released #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Oct 12 02:27 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 02:27 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lutris-0.5.9-Released | Oct 12 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lutris 0.5.9 Released With Support For The Epic Games Store, New Options - Phoronix | Oct 12 02:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Oct 12 02:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Lutris 0.5.9 Released With Support For The Epic Games Store, New Options - Phoronix | Oct 12 02:27 | |
| DaemonFC | "However, while Mozilla describes Firefox Suggest contextual suggestions as opt-in, in BleepingComputer's tests and from what users have reported [1, 2], the feature is on by default." | Oct 12 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's on by default in the Flatpak. | Oct 12 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't even ask or tell you what it is. | Oct 12 02:28 |
| activelow | I did create a custom build for seamonkey, and firefox/mozilla sources and config was full with call-to-home URLs | Oct 12 02:29 |
| activelow | independent from Firefox Suggest feature | Oct 12 02:29 |
| MinceR | 12 031714 < DaemonFC> You can just deploy it as an application image and get the latest version and completely bypass Debian if you want. | Oct 12 02:32 |
| MinceR | i completely bypass debian by not even installing debian | Oct 12 02:32 |
| techrights-news | #suse is boosting the #fraud which is #gartner 'ratings' https://www.suse.com/c/suse-linux-enterprise-server-rating-of-4-5-out-of-5/ a bunch of charlatans and scammers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group | Oct 12 02:34 |
| activelow | checking this: "safebrowsing" feature, "phishing protection", "telemetry info", search url, "update service", another "version check" url, "addons", "plugin finder" (for pdf), "crash stats", "geolocation api" for google, | Oct 12 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Achieves Rating of 4.5 out of 5 | Oct 12 02:34 | |
| altlink_051 | 📣 suse.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights | Oct 12 02:34 | |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/suse-linux-enterprise-server-rating-of-4-5-out-of-5/ | Oct 12 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/suse-linux-enterprise-server-rating-of-4-5-out-of-5/ ) | Oct 12 02:34 | |
| activelow | i pointed all of those URLs to 127.0.0.1 and firefox continued flawless | Oct 12 02:34 |
| activelow | this was firefox 52.4; which i was maintaining a custom build for up until recently, and not sure anymore if or how to continue | Oct 12 02:36 |
| techrights-news | Fewer liabilities for #pension giants http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-111021.html#tOct%2011%2013:37:59 | Oct 12 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 11, 2021 | Oct 12 02:36 | |
| activelow | the main reason to quit this entirely is... javascript, because such browsers (all of them) are merely a proprietary malware host nowadays | Oct 12 02:37 |
| techrights-news | #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 704 https://ubuntu-news.org/2021/10/11/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-704/ | Oct 12 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 704 | Oct 12 02:38 | |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techpol + social irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-111021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-111021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-111021.txt | Oct 12 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 11, 2021 | Oct 12 02:38 | |
| activelow | the only solution to this: boycott mozilla, boycott apple, boycott google, boycott facebook and any other involved with this | Oct 12 02:39 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techrights irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-111021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-111021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-111021.txt | Oct 12 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 11, 2021 | Oct 12 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | Things Are Looking Brighter! But Not The Stars | Hackaday ⚓ https://hackaday.com/2021/10/11/things-are-looking-brighter-but-not-the-stars/ ䷉ #hackaday | Oct 12 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Things Are Looking Brighter! But Not The Stars | Hackaday | Oct 12 02:39 | |
| activelow | the alternatives: text console browsers such as links or lynx or w3m; or netsurf | Oct 12 02:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: yes, | Oct 12 02:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the browser used to be a canvas | Oct 12 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's just a platform to run tons of untrusted code | Oct 12 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | with latched onto the system | Oct 12 02:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | drm, video etc. | Oct 12 02:40 |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ boycottnovell irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-111021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-111021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-111021.txt | Oct 12 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 11, 2021 | Oct 12 02:40 | |
| techrights-news | ▌║█║▌│║▌│║▌║▌█║ techbytes irc ▌│║▌║▌│║║▌█║▌║█ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-111021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-111021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-111021.txt | Oct 12 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 11, 2021 | Oct 12 02:41 | |
| activelow | problem is, there is not option available, to at least navigate online banking for example, or wikipedia authoring | Oct 12 02:41 |
| activelow | i think netsurf doesn't suffice anymore | Oct 12 02:42 |
| activelow | not blaming gnu/fsf, i think it is impossible to win anything anymore at the web browser front | Oct 12 02:43 |
| techrights-news | Contrary to the misleading image that says "LINUX", along with the headline, the root cause has nothing to with Linux https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/trend-micro-linux-malware-targets-huawei-cloud-a-17714 | Oct 12 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bankinfosecurity.com | Trend Micro: Linux Malware Targets Huawei Cloud | Oct 12 02:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | activelow: so get APPS | Oct 12 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | get a "PHONE" | Oct 12 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | for banking etc. | Oct 12 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | chrome or android | Oct 12 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the option | Oct 12 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we got rid of Windows | Oct 12 02:44 |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-11.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-11.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Oct 12 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we still wrestle with malicious code | Oct 12 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/12/firefox-takes-another-step-in-the-direction-of-being-malware-with-firefox-suggest/ | Oct 12 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Firefox takes another step in the direction of being malware with “Firefox Suggest”. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 12 02:45 | |
| schestowitz-TR | from the company that funded FSF | Oct 12 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: good | Oct 12 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mentioned that weeks ago | Oct 12 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | "How much longer will “Free” operating systems like Debian continue ignoring their own Free Software Guidelines to package this? It already had a grabber that’s on by default to download Google DRM blobs, and now this. | Oct 12 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | It’s bad enough that Fedora chucked its own Free Software policy out the door when IBM took them over, and started pushing Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Microsoft Edge. | Oct 12 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | How is it that Debian says the firmware to run my wifi, SSD, and graphics chip isn’t allowed but Widevine DRM blobs and a malicious keylogger in Firefox are fine? | Oct 12 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | when they first mentioned "Suggest" | Oct 12 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like someone at Debian should explain this." | Oct 12 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW | Oct 12 02:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Firefox had Microsoft keylogger in 2014 | Oct 12 02:46 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2014/11/28/microsoft-firefox/ | Oct 12 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Will Relay Firefox User Input (Even Keystrokes) to Microsoft and the NSA Through Yahoo in the US | Techrights | Oct 12 02:46 | |
| activelow | mozilla only? all modern browsers are horrible by design. | Oct 12 02:47 |
| activelow | *all* of them | Oct 12 02:47 |
| techrights-news | #RaspberryPi CM4 Used in Custom Nintendo Switch Lite Replica • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156681 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi CM4 Used in Custom Nintendo Switch Lite Replica | Tux Machines | Oct 12 02:47 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I updated that. | Oct 12 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | "How is it that Debian says the firmware to run my wifi, SSD, and graphics chip isn't allowed (in the official image, which will lead some people to think Debian is broken and not bother figuring out why....while others have to know there's a real installer that has firmware that is semi-hidden) but Widevine DRM blobs and a malicious keylogger in Firefox are fine?" | Oct 12 02:48 |
| techrights-news | Best #GNULinux Distro for #Programming • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156682 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distro for Programming | Tux Machines | Oct 12 02:48 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: can we reproduce later? | Oct 12 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | try to mention 2014 | Oct 12 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Oct 12 02:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is not unprecedented | Oct 12 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but back then Mozilla was not widely condemned yet | Oct 12 02:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | i need sleep now | Oct 12 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think a lot of the reason why there are so many downstream Debian-based distributions is that their official policies are kind of all over the place on this sort of stuff. | Oct 12 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | And you can't get your computer working with the default image, but when you figure it all out, at least Firefox wil lbe waiting with adware and DRM. | Oct 12 02:50 |
| MinceR | 12 034609 < DaemonFC> "How much longer will “Free” operating systems like Debian continue ignoring their own Free Software Guidelines to package this? It already had a grabber that’s on by default to download Google DRM blobs, and now this. | Oct 12 02:50 |
| MinceR | forever | Oct 12 02:51 |
| MinceR | debian is now a systemd distribution | Oct 12 02:51 |
| MinceR | systemd is nonfree | Oct 12 02:51 |
| MinceR | Linux and most of its distributions are now dumping grounds for microsoft and ibm where they put their shit | Oct 12 02:51 |
| MinceR | also, debian is digging the hole they're in deeper and deeper | Oct 12 02:52 |
| MinceR | the more time passes the more difficult it would be to remove the proprietary crap | Oct 12 02:53 |
| activelow | it is impossible already; because if the crap is removed then any system is effectively exclude from economic, political, social and technical participation | Oct 12 02:54 |
| activelow | MinceR: try to participate with authoring on wikipedia with netsurf browser | Oct 12 02:54 |
| activelow | needless to say, i don't accept libreoffice for wikipedia authoring either | Oct 12 02:54 |
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| activelow | or, remove all pdf and office document format support from your system in favor of TeX... have fun | Oct 12 02:55 |
| MinceR | i'm not sufficiently fond of wikipedia to try that | Oct 12 02:56 |
| MinceR | it's a battleground of political interests and also they're way too eager to delete articles | Oct 12 02:57 |
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| activelow | just an example, try to watch any youtube video instead | Oct 12 02:57 |
| MinceR | does netsurf support the html5 video element? | Oct 12 02:57 |
| activelow | no | Oct 12 02:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 12 02:57 |
| MinceR | youtube does a heap of mostly unnecessary stuff on top of that | Oct 12 02:58 |
| activelow | or try to publish any video on youtube, because, any target audience mostly resides on youtube, or facebook | Oct 12 02:58 |
| activelow | although it is possible to remove the malicious toxic shit from gnu/linux distros, then any developer or user is effectively excluded from participation everywhere | Oct 12 02:58 |
| activelow | and politics? they are praising this as "innovation" and "progress" | Oct 12 03:00 |
| activelow | "internet"? criticial infrastructure? doomsday | Oct 12 03:01 |
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| activelow | students aren't at least lectured the relevant stuff anymore, beginning in schools. | Oct 12 03:01 |
| samiamsam | the browsers are out of control | Oct 12 03:03 |
| samiamsam | wait how do you mean systemd is nonfree? | Oct 12 03:06 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: | Oct 12 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | Хто про що, а MinceR про невільність systemd. | Oct 12 03:10 |
| XRevan86 | https://i.imgur.com/v14NdUO.jpeg | Oct 12 03:10 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 imgur.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 03:10 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/v14NdUO.jpeg | Oct 12 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 12 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | They pushed an update to the Super Tux Kart Flatpak that was 1.2 KB. | Oct 12 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | It said no change update except to add the permission fallback-x11 | Oct 12 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | " | Oct 12 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | Left the computer running overnight with locked screen and in the morning, gnome-software is using 3 GB of RAM." | Oct 12 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Oct 12 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/191 | Oct 12 03:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.gnome.org | gnome-software sometimes has high memory usage (#191) · Issues · GNOME / gnome-software · GitLab | Oct 12 03:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Philip Withnall @pwithnall · 5 months ago | Oct 12 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Maintainer | Oct 12 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | There have been a number of improvements to memory usage in gnome-software for version 40.0, which is the currently supported version. | Oct 12 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | There’s no additional actionable information to go on in this issue, so I’m going to close it. If there are still memory usage issues with gnome-software 40.0 (and there might well be), please open a new issue about it and provide details about what you were doing in gnome-software. | Oct 12 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you. | Oct 12 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | That reminds me of JWZ complaining of Apple closing a bug like this 15 years later by saying many things had changed in Mac OS. | Oct 12 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | And something like that happening between GNOME 1 and GNOME 2. | Oct 12 03:18 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/why-i-use-safari-instead-of-firefox/ | Oct 12 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Why I use Safari instead of Firefox | Oct 12 03:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Can't figure out one program that looks different than the rest. Calls Firefox "Linux". | Oct 12 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 12 03:20 |
| activelow | maybe anyone could help me? trying netsurf-fb now on framebuffer console... the binary executes, and nothing but regular blinking cursor is shown :( | Oct 12 03:21 |
| activelow | in case anyone had installed netsurf with netsurf-fb available, to try on text console if this works? | Oct 12 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sergey Bugaev @bugaevc · 5 months ago | Oct 12 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | Right now on my machine running GNOME 40, gnome-software --gapplication-service is running in the background and consuming 186.4 MB (as reported by GNOME System Monitor) or 239 MB (RSS as reported by htop). Note that it's running in the background and is not displaying any UI. | Oct 12 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | Should I open a new issue? | Oct 12 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | --- | Oct 12 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | So not only is the maintainer saying update your GNOME, which won't happen in Debian for a couple of years, but then the current version does the same thing. | Oct 12 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | --- | Oct 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Philip Withnall @pwithnall · 5 months ago | Oct 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Maintainer | Oct 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Sure, open a new issue. It’s unlikely there’ll be any further progress on reducing memory consumption in the GNOME 41 cycle, though, as we have other things to prioritise this cycle. | Oct 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | --- | Oct 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | But it won't be fixed in GNOME 41 either and they have other priorities. | Oct 12 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | Like Trump during Vietnam. | Oct 12 03:23 |
| activelow | so, after excluding modern browsers since these failed minimum acceptance testing, digging elsewhere yielded this: | Oct 12 03:25 |
| activelow | links is buggy and the source code is, uhm, special... failed. | Oct 12 03:26 |
| activelow | netsurf-fb has unacceptable limitations (no tabbed browsing) and it isn't showing anyting on /dev/fb0 here... failed. | Oct 12 03:27 |
| activelow | lynx browser remains, it is what it is, limited; w3m is clumsy, and neither lynx nor w3m show images on framebuffer console | Oct 12 03:29 |
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| MinceR | samiamsam: it does not qualify per the Free Software Definition >> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html | Oct 12 03:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Oct 12 03:41 | |
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| MinceR | > “Free software” means software that respects users' freedom and community. | Oct 12 03:41 |
| MinceR | systemd is the opposite of that | Oct 12 03:41 |
| samiamsam | how so | Oct 12 03:42 |
| samiamsam | pretty sure w3m and lynx are breaking for ipv6 | Oct 12 03:42 |
| MinceR | it was designed by rh/ibm so they could usurp control over people's computers | Oct 12 03:42 |
| MinceR | their behavior shows clearly that they have no respect for what users want | Oct 12 03:43 |
| MinceR | systemd forces policy poettering happens to like or what rh/ibm was paid to enforce, against users' wishes | Oct 12 03:43 |
| activelow | AdmFubar: had not seen nyxt in gentoo tree yet, it is written in lisp (rare), and seems part of guix; depends on what nyxt dependencies are (rendering backend, don't know yet) | Oct 12 03:43 |
| samiamsam | what policy | Oct 12 03:43 |
| MinceR | and they took over distributions and forced it as a dependency on software including gnome so that it would be difficult for people to get rid of it | Oct 12 03:44 |
| MinceR | libsystemd is part of that | Oct 12 03:44 |
| MinceR | policies like killing all processes you started from your session on logout | Oct 12 03:44 |
| MinceR | which breaks screen, tmux, dtach | Oct 12 03:44 |
| samiamsam | well you need to enable linger | Oct 12 03:44 |
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| MinceR | no, i need to use a free software OS | Oct 12 03:44 |
| MinceR | which debian used to be, before rh/ibm took over | Oct 12 03:45 |
| samiamsam | you can enable linger by default for the whole system | Oct 12 03:45 |
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| activelow | "which breaks screen, tmux" ... fascinating. is this true MinceR ? cannot believe this. | Oct 12 03:45 |
| MinceR | yup | Oct 12 03:45 |
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| MinceR | this particular sort of brain damage was even copied into elogind | Oct 12 03:45 |
| *activelow is rolling on the floor | Oct 12 03:45 | |
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| MinceR | and someone i know personally suffered because of that | Oct 12 03:45 |
| samiamsam | i've got no problems using tmux or screen | Oct 12 03:45 |
| MinceR | neither have i | Oct 12 03:45 |
| MinceR | i also don't boot into an emergency prompt hidden on an inactive virtual console | Oct 12 03:46 |
| MinceR | and my machines don't hang forever instead of shutting down, either | Oct 12 03:46 |
| MinceR | the underlying motivation of systemd appears to be making everything that used to be GNU/Linux dependent on something only a few people at rh/ibm understand and churn the code at a high rate to make maintaining forks impractical | Oct 12 03:47 |
| samiamsam | systemd user interface is tops bro i love it so much | Oct 12 03:47 |
| MinceR | so that they can get as many people to buy support contracts as possible | Oct 12 03:47 |
| MinceR | and so that they can sabotage competing distros | Oct 12 03:47 |
| samiamsam | i do have the emergency prompt enabled though to deal with shutdown though lol | Oct 12 03:47 |
| MinceR | samiamsam: i can recommend to you a system you'll love even more | Oct 12 03:47 |
| MinceR | systemd copied a lot from it | Oct 12 03:47 |
| MinceR | and the whole attitude will also be familiar | Oct 12 03:48 |
| MinceR | it's called microsoft windows | Oct 12 03:48 |
| samiamsam | let me show you a shell script i wrote using systemd bro you tell me if it looks like windows | Oct 12 03:48 |
| MinceR | though it's even better -- you aren't merely pretending that the design of the kernel is so poor that processes are expensive and it makes sense to stuff unrelated functionality together in one process | Oct 12 03:48 |
| MinceR | because the design of the NT kernel really is that bad | Oct 12 03:49 |
| samiamsam | https://git.cryptonomic.net/firefix.git/plain/your-fired.sh | Oct 12 03:49 |
| MinceR | you should already know that writing shell scripts is heresy | Oct 12 03:49 |
| MinceR | there's a reason systemd moves a lot of functionality from shell scripts to poorly written undocumented C code | Oct 12 03:49 |
| samiamsam | the shell scripts sucked | Oct 12 03:52 |
| MinceR | and yet here you are, showing off one of them | Oct 12 03:52 |
| MinceR | there was also some mountspace policy that was changed because one of rh's clients paid them to do it | Oct 12 03:52 |
| MinceR | and so it was changed for every systemd user | Oct 12 03:52 |
| samiamsam | i'm showing you how the script uses systemd | Oct 12 03:52 |
| samiamsam | duno if you actually looked at it | Oct 12 03:52 |
| activelow | to remain honest with systemd/logind: killing all processes on logout can be configured, seems doing so is default | Oct 12 03:53 |
| MinceR | it's a stupid, non-unix default | Oct 12 03:54 |
| MinceR | but it's there because poettering likes it | Oct 12 03:54 |
| samiamsam | but it's a setting | Oct 12 03:54 |
| activelow | and there are reasons for this MinceR | Oct 12 03:55 |
| MinceR | cherish that | Oct 12 03:55 |
| MinceR | because the cult doesn't like letting the user choose | Oct 12 03:55 |
| samiamsam | dude i don't have to cherish it | Oct 12 03:55 |
| samiamsam | i enable linger and then don't think about it | Oct 12 03:55 |
| MinceR | this site is run by the same cult >> http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ | Oct 12 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-islinuxaboutchoice.com | Is Linux About Choice? | Oct 12 03:55 | |
| MinceR | not thinking about it is indeed appropriate when using systemd, windows or macos | Oct 12 03:55 |
| samiamsam | systemd is better software than te crap it replaced | Oct 12 03:55 |
| MinceR | no, it is not | Oct 12 03:55 |
| samiamsam | well i love it | Oct 12 03:55 |
| MinceR | good | Oct 12 03:55 |
| MinceR | that's why i'm telling you you're going to love windows even more | Oct 12 03:56 |
| samiamsam | glad debian adopted it | Oct 12 03:56 |
| MinceR | there was no point in debian adopting it | Oct 12 03:56 |
| samiamsam | it makes it so much easier | Oct 12 03:56 |
| samiamsam | for debian | Oct 12 03:56 |
| activelow | samiamsam: systemd didn't replace any predecessor (only some parts); it is a new design | Oct 12 03:56 |
| MinceR | the cult is officially against all forms of variety and diversity | Oct 12 03:56 |
| activelow | systemd introduces a layer in between kernel-space/user-space -> sort of a system-layer in between kernel and user | Oct 12 03:56 |
| MinceR | they should have just all used fedora or rHELL | Oct 12 03:56 |
| samiamsam | clean beautiful interfaces omg they so good | Oct 12 03:56 |
| samiamsam | systemd is really the os | Oct 12 03:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 12 03:57 |
| MinceR | nice bait | Oct 12 03:57 |
| activelow | and this didn't exist before, and i do not want this | Oct 12 03:57 |
| MinceR | "clean beautiful interfaces" according to random systemd cultist: having to specify a DNS-based path three times in 2 different formats to send a message | Oct 12 03:57 |
| samiamsam | ah well don't use it i guess | Oct 12 03:57 |
| MinceR | also having to reboot to restart the dbugs daemon | Oct 12 03:57 |
| MinceR | yeah, that was the idea | Oct 12 03:58 |
| MinceR | until your cult took over debian and tried to force that malware on me anyway | Oct 12 03:58 |
| MinceR | not that it matters anymore, as they also got to Linus and started shitting into Linux as well | Oct 12 03:58 |
| MinceR | and if i'm replacing the kernel, i might as well use the userland that comes with the new kernel | Oct 12 03:58 |
| MinceR | with a lot less bloat | Oct 12 03:58 |
| samiamsam | i just upgraded debian until systemd took over, but man, it's so much better when you read the manual pages and learn all the shit you can do omfg so good | Oct 12 03:59 |
| MinceR | it's so great to look at horribly written C code with no comments in it | Oct 12 03:59 |
| samiamsam | i didn't look into that but i have no problems with the c | Oct 12 03:59 |
| MinceR | also to dereference null pointers in pid1 (running as root) without checking for nullness | Oct 12 03:59 |
| MinceR | because lennart thought it wasn't necessary | Oct 12 04:00 |
| samiamsam | actually i did look into it once to try to fix the problem with the rescue terminal being taken over by output to /dev/console | Oct 12 04:00 |
| samiamsam | they should port it to rust probably | Oct 12 04:00 |
| MinceR | obviously you didn't look into the topic too deeply | Oct 12 04:00 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 12 04:00 |
| MinceR | or .NET | Oct 12 04:00 |
| samiamsam | haha | Oct 12 04:00 |
| activelow | maybe it wasn't debian who decided, it was mainly Gnome/KDE, because with systemd/dbus Gnome and KDE are gone (at best only gtk and qt widget toolkits remain, and even this requires patching and heavy intervention by recompiling the entire system from source, only possible with gentoo and similar) | Oct 12 04:00 |
| MinceR | more microsoft dependencies are always good for them | Oct 12 04:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, it was gnome controlling debian like a puppet | Oct 12 04:00 |
| MinceR | KDE didn't decide anything, they're just following gnome wherever gnome goes | Oct 12 04:01 |
| samiamsam | systemd is solving technical problems that i dealt with years before systemd came along | Oct 12 04:01 |
| samiamsam | love it | Oct 12 04:01 |
| MinceR | again, the cult doesn't want you to have a choice of DEs so they'll kill KDE once it has served its purpose | Oct 12 04:01 |
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| MinceR | yay, systemd is solving technical problems that didn't even exist before systemd | Oct 12 04:01 |
| samiamsam | problems debian had before systemd | Oct 12 04:02 |
| samiamsam | being solved by systemd | Oct 12 04:02 |
| MinceR | please don't quote all the talking points at me, i'll be bored into sleep | Oct 12 04:02 |
| MinceR | i've read all of them years ago | Oct 12 04:02 |
| MinceR | back when your cult killed off the OS i was using | Oct 12 04:02 |
| samiamsam | i'm talking about my experience of using systemd | Oct 12 04:02 |
| MinceR | because they wanted it to be more like fedora, which they could have already used, as it was available | Oct 12 04:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'm talking about my experience of using systemd as well | Oct 12 04:03 |
| samiamsam | you are saying i am repeating 'talking points' | Oct 12 04:03 |
| MinceR | the hidden emergency prompts, the waiting forever on shutdown because the NFS server was shut down before the client machine was | Oct 12 04:03 |
| samiamsam | the emergency prompt is disabled by default | Oct 12 04:03 |
| MinceR | well, the alleged "problems" that were made up to justify a "solution" nobody asked for are typical talking points | Oct 12 04:04 |
| MinceR | also ancient talking points | Oct 12 04:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, well, your favorite OS enables it for some reason | Oct 12 04:04 |
| samiamsam | no | Oct 12 04:04 |
| samiamsam | dude | Oct 12 04:04 |
| MinceR | probably because it's broken | Oct 12 04:04 |
| samiamsam | there were multiple competing solutions because of the problem | Oct 12 04:04 |
| samiamsam | and still are | Oct 12 04:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, and your people pretended there were only 2 | Oct 12 04:04 |
| samiamsam | i don't have any people | Oct 12 04:04 |
| MinceR | the "solution" already existed, all you had to do was somehow justify forcing systemd on people who didn't ask for it | Oct 12 04:05 |
| samiamsam | duno what you're talking about | Oct 12 04:05 |
| MinceR | again, forcing malware on people, not exactly what "respecting users' freedom and community" means. | Oct 12 04:06 |
| samiamsam | duno what malware | Oct 12 04:06 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about the lies poettering's followers posted to justify turning GNU/Linux distributions into systemd/Linux distributions | Oct 12 04:06 |
| MinceR | even as they kept preaching that the existence of multiple distros was heresy in the first place | Oct 12 04:07 |
| MinceR | the malware is called systemd | Oct 12 04:07 |
| samiamsam | systemd/linux is good software though it's not malware | Oct 12 04:07 |
| MinceR | the one that insists on running on your computer from boot until shutdown, with root privileges, with carelessly written code full of vulnerabilities, and code that listens to network connections | Oct 12 04:07 |
| samiamsam | it has flaws ok | Oct 12 04:07 |
| MinceR | they even put a webserver in there so you could read logs from that atrocity called systemd-journald | Oct 12 04:08 |
| samiamsam | everything has flaws | Oct 12 04:08 |
| MinceR | it is a fractal of flaws | Oct 12 04:08 |
| samiamsam | webserver to read log files is good | Oct 12 04:08 |
| MinceR | it is a massive flaw with smaller flaws growing off it | Oct 12 04:08 |
| samiamsam | it's a joy to work with | Oct 12 04:08 |
| MinceR | webserver integrated into what is supposed to be an "init system" is utterly idiotic | Oct 12 04:08 |
| MinceR | it is something only dave cutler's followers could come up with | Oct 12 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/12/firefox-93-disables-triple-des-and-doesnt-mention-nsa-backdoors-windows-11-continues-degrading-vpns-with-it-if-they-use-the-native-apis/ | Oct 12 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Firefox 93 disables Triple DES and doesn’t mention NSA backdoors. Windows 11 continues degrading VPNs with it if they use the native APIs. – BaronHK's Rants | Oct 12 04:08 | |
| samiamsam | it's pure joy, like haskell to c | Oct 12 04:09 |
| samiamsam | systemd to what came before | Oct 12 04:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, i feel the joy too, when i wondered why ubuntu hasn't managed to boot in 15 minutes, and i check around the virtual consoles and find an emergency prompt from systemd on one of them | Oct 12 04:09 |
| activelow | problem is systemd being enforced to everyone even when it is totally inappropriate | Oct 12 04:09 |
| MinceR | also pure joy when i have to forcibly power down the machine because systemd decided to wait for something forever | Oct 12 04:10 |
| activelow | the alternative to systemd isn't any other, it is NONE at all (sysvinit/openrc aren't some systemd architecture type component) | Oct 12 04:10 |
| samiamsam | that's the most conservative thing so it's qiute reasonable | Oct 12 04:10 |
| MinceR | :~# reboot | Oct 12 04:10 |
| MinceR | Write failed: Broken pipe | Oct 12 04:11 |
| MinceR | pure joy. | Oct 12 04:11 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/qqdla830gsex.jpg | Oct 12 04:11 |
| MinceR | also pure joy. | Oct 12 04:11 |
| samiamsam | if you were to judge systemd solely by shutdown experience, i would have to say, it's worse | Oct 12 04:11 |
| samiamsam | i don't ever shut anything down and don't care so, shrug | Oct 12 04:11 |
| MinceR | your friends are selling systemd as an "init system", remember? | Oct 12 04:11 |
| MinceR | shutting down is one of the _very few_ things it's supposed to do, and to do well | Oct 12 04:12 |
| samiamsam | an init system being conservative lets shit hang forever | Oct 12 04:12 |
| MinceR | systemd utterly fails at it | Oct 12 04:12 |
| samiamsam | then you go and check what's holding it up in the rescue terminal and kill it | Oct 12 04:12 |
| samiamsam | that's reasonable enough, fine | Oct 12 04:12 |
| MinceR | and displaces any properly written piece of software which would do it | Oct 12 04:12 |
| activelow | let me explain my approach again: nilfs2. sync. reset-button | Oct 12 04:12 |
| samiamsam | no, you can run any code you watn on shutdown to do it | Oct 12 04:12 |
| MinceR | no, "an init system being conservative" doesn't let "shit hang forever" | Oct 12 04:12 |
| samiamsam | you can now hit ctrlatldlt a bunch of times real quick to force it too | Oct 12 04:12 |
| MinceR | it sends SIGTERM to all processes, waits a bit, then sends SIGKILL to all processes, then halts or reboots or powers off | Oct 12 04:13 |
| MinceR | this isn't rocket science | Oct 12 04:13 |
| MinceR | it's just something poettering hasn't managed to implement, or even understand | Oct 12 04:13 |
| samiamsam | yes it does if it has data to write to a remote filesystem that's going to get lost on shutdown it is losing data not to wait forever for the machine to come back | Oct 12 04:13 |
| MinceR | yay, i can hit ctrl+alt+del a lot! | Oct 12 04:13 |
| MinceR | do you know what OS i would be running if i was addicted to hitting ctrl+alt+del like the deaf person presses the doorbell? | Oct 12 04:14 |
| MinceR | windows. | Oct 12 04:14 |
| samiamsam | well you can do that shit in your own unit file on shutdown | Oct 12 04:14 |
| samiamsam | i don't mind looking at the rescue terminal | Oct 12 04:14 |
| MinceR | https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expect-command-widely/ | Oct 12 04:14 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 geekwire.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 04:14 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expect-command-widely/ | Oct 12 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The rest of the story: Control-Alt-Delete inventor didn’t expect it to be widely used - GeekWire | Oct 12 04:14 | |
| samiamsam | this is some petty gripe about how it works then you're calling it malware | Oct 12 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | The rest of the story: Control-Alt-Delete inventor didn’t expect it to be widely used - GeekWire | Oct 12 04:15 | |
| MinceR | “But I have to share the credit. I may have invented it, but I think Bill made it famous.” | Oct 12 04:15 |
| MinceR | i do mind having to _hunt down_ the rescue terminal that isn't shown | Oct 12 04:15 |
| MinceR | there are many gripes about how it "works" | Oct 12 04:15 |
| samiamsam | the rescue terminal isn't enalbed by default and has other issues | Oct 12 04:16 |
| MinceR | having a massive bloated hairball coded by idiots, running as root all the time, from a company that used to brag about NSA being one of their clients, is a massive red flag | Oct 12 04:16 |
| activelow | login-shell == rescue terminal here, because root.squashfs is read-only anyway | Oct 12 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/10/somehow-macos-10-6-broke-hdmi/ | Oct 12 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Somehow macOS 11.6 broke HDMI | Oct 12 04:17 | |
| MinceR | and many security issues have already been publicized in it, _after_ it was rubberstamped as "stable" by fedora and debian, and foisted onto their users | Oct 12 04:17 |
| activelow | i even patched kernel to prevent replacing rc.init script with anything eles, to *always* enforce /bin/login | Oct 12 04:17 |
| activelow | hence, no need for "secure boot" | Oct 12 04:18 |
| MinceR | there never was any need for "Secure Boot" | Oct 12 04:18 |
| MinceR | except by microsoft | Oct 12 04:18 |
| activelow | ok, sure. i wanted something else then them, and have it. | Oct 12 04:18 |
| activelow | than | Oct 12 04:18 |
| MinceR | who were afraid that if users got to choose an OS to run on computers they owned, microsoft would lose their precious and lucrative market positions | Oct 12 04:18 |
| samiamsam | secure boot is needed to control the users of a machine completely | Oct 12 04:18 |
| MinceR | similar story to systemd | Oct 12 04:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what microsoft is trying to do | Oct 12 04:19 |
| activelow | problem now is, i won't support UEFI, and if legacy BIOS support is dropped then my amd64.iso won't boot anymore. | Oct 12 04:19 |
| MinceR | unfortunately for them, their code is so shit, even if "secure boot" worked as designed, people could just exploit one of the many holes in windows to boot something else anyway | Oct 12 04:19 |
| activelow | doubt it | Oct 12 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer says: | Oct 12 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago at 8:19 pm | Oct 12 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Sips coffee | Oct 12 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Glad to see that Mac's still Just Working(R) for you. | Oct 12 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | "Make cannot be verified! Make might be a virus!" Jesus fuck. The hell is this crap? | Oct 12 04:20 |
| activelow | i mean, try to replace BIOS/UEFI with something else, because, BIOS/UEFI are the *real* operating system | Oct 12 04:20 |
| MinceR | similar things have already been done to gaming consoles | Oct 12 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Oct 12 04:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Oct 12 04:20 |
| samiamsam | no, systemd is the real operating system | Oct 12 04:20 |
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| MinceR | perhaps the real operating system was the masters we've gained along the way? | Oct 12 04:20 |
| MinceR | (they won't let you use the word "master", though.) | Oct 12 04:21 |
| samiamsam | bootloading code is still just bootloading | Oct 12 04:21 |
| activelow | in german language Master/Meister, it translates to skilled craftsmen, who instructs Lehrling (trainee, not slave) | Oct 12 04:22 |
| MinceR | if it's "just bootloading", how come TianoCore is about as big as Linux, sans drivers? | Oct 12 04:22 |
| samiamsam | it does suck when it does a bunch of stuff in the bios | Oct 12 04:22 |
| activelow | needless to say, i reject trainees | Oct 12 04:22 |
| MinceR | what the hell does "just a bootloader" need so much damn code for? | Oct 12 04:22 |
| activelow | and let them be their own masters now | Oct 12 04:22 |
| samiamsam | same reason you'd use linux as a bootloader, because it can do a lot | Oct 12 04:22 |
| samiamsam | like yeah it can be a whole os | Oct 12 04:22 |
| MinceR | yay, it can do a lot! too bad it doesn't work. | Oct 12 04:23 |
| samiamsam | but it's _the_ os because it hands over the system | Oct 12 04:23 |
| MinceR | does it, though? | Oct 12 04:23 |
| MinceR | iirc in uefi (not legacy) boot, some crap is left behind in memory | Oct 12 04:23 |
| MinceR | and then the alleged OS gets to call it sometimes | Oct 12 04:23 |
| samiamsam | that's not the same thing as being the os | Oct 12 04:23 |
| MinceR | like when something decides to use that filesystem systemd mounts read-write for you and bricks your alleged computer with it | Oct 12 04:23 |
| MinceR | because poettering is an idiot | Oct 12 04:24 |
| samiamsam | i definitley want any crap like that disabled by the kernel | Oct 12 04:24 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.anandtech.com/show/16979/the-ampere-altra-max-review-pushing-it-to-128-cores-per-socket | Oct 12 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | The Ampere Altra Max Review: Pushing it to 128 Cores per Socket | Oct 12 04:27 | |
| samiamsam | if you want to make flour you have to tolerate some bugs | Oct 12 04:28 |
| MinceR | no, i don't | Oct 12 04:28 |
| activelow | AdmFubar: i would prefer to tailor software, development, and dependencies, to NOT depend on 128core system; although it is nice to have, i do not want development to depend on it | Oct 12 04:29 |
| samiamsam | where's the flour bro | Oct 12 04:29 |
| activelow | AdmFubar: because, free and opensource software depends on ordinary homebrew hackers can develop software | Oct 12 04:29 |
| activelow | add to this, the price for a cortex a53 quadcore is ~50$, not sure what the altra ampere costs are, besides excess electricity | Oct 12 04:30 |
| samiamsam | i think 128 cores is for ordinary hackers of the future | Oct 12 04:30 |
| MinceR | it will be for "ordinary hackers" when hackers actually get to control the 128-core SoC-s they own | Oct 12 04:30 |
| samiamsam | i bet more than 8 is normal now | Oct 12 04:30 |
| MinceR | when they aren't locked out of it by corporations with questionable agendas | Oct 12 04:31 |
| samiamsam | do you feel locked out | Oct 12 04:31 |
| MinceR | locked down bootloaders, malware running on its own built-in core and shit like that | Oct 12 04:31 |
| MinceR | yes i do | Oct 12 04:31 |
| activelow | reminder: fuzixOS requires 8KiB, and is available with Z80 systems... such as zeta v2 board | Oct 12 04:31 |
| MinceR | for a while i thought i could have one brand of ARM SBC which was reasonably open | Oct 12 04:31 |
| MinceR | and then i found out it was running malware called "ThreadX", owned by microsoft, on the gpu, all along | Oct 12 04:32 |
| MinceR | the others tend to have locked bootloaders, documentation being kept secret from OS developers, and piss poor OS support | Oct 12 04:32 |
| MinceR | though i guess i can safely say that raspberry pi has joined the pack of "piss poor OS support" lately | Oct 12 04:32 |
| samiamsam | haha it's crazy all the little things in a modern computer that have their own cpus | Oct 12 04:32 |
| activelow | with a z80(or some other) fuzixOS systems, the operating system is the bios iteself (needs review what type of ROM loaders there are) | Oct 12 04:33 |
| MinceR | considering how much trickery i needed just so i could get a kernel that would actually boot on the damned thing | Oct 12 04:33 |
| samiamsam | some guy put linux on a hard drive's cpu | Oct 12 04:33 |
| activelow | and this is how far back in time one must travel, to find some 100% fully free and opensource system (if at all) | Oct 12 04:33 |
| samiamsam | the cpu in the hard drive could run linux | Oct 12 04:33 |
| MinceR | fuzixOS is hardly a travel back in time | Oct 12 04:35 |
| samiamsam | but that shit although it is creepy and bad, doesn't stop software developers | Oct 12 04:35 |
| activelow | MinceR: i would say it was abandoned and forgotten for decades, doesn't mean it didn't exist before | Oct 12 04:36 |
| MinceR | how much RAM can fuzixOS handle anyway? | Oct 12 04:36 |
| activelow | MinceR: depends on both hardware (MMU) and fuzixOS itself.. 512KiB is a common limit with Z80 | Oct 12 04:37 |
| activelow | some extensions exist, for MMU, and more RAM | Oct 12 04:37 |
| MinceR | i see | Oct 12 04:37 |
| MinceR | being able to use an MMU is promising | Oct 12 04:38 |
| activelow | depends | Oct 12 04:38 |
| MinceR | i don't want buggy applications writing garbage into kernel memory and over other applications | Oct 12 04:38 |
| activelow | do not write buggy applications to begin with? | Oct 12 04:38 |
| MinceR | nice idea | Oct 12 04:39 |
| MinceR | what planet are we going to start a society that does not write buggy applications on? | Oct 12 04:39 |
| MinceR | also, what species of beings are they going to be? | Oct 12 04:39 |
| activelow | no need to argue, some benefits exist with MMU, nonetheless, z80 by design didn't have at least DRAM (and dram controller), z80 uses SRAM | Oct 12 04:39 |
| activelow | which is remarkable for the following reason: the CPU can be fully HALTed, and single-step debugged (without any jtag voodoo anywhere) | Oct 12 04:40 |
| activelow | some lattice FPGA board with 512KiB SRAM exists, which can be clocked to a few dozen MHz ... just saying... 30Euros iirc | Oct 12 04:41 |
| samiamsam | i got a $3 arduino | Oct 12 04:42 |
| activelow | samiamsam: which isn't an FPGA, and 512KiB SRAM is alot | Oct 12 04:42 |
| activelow | samiamsam: and arduino isn't self-sufficient, self-hosting for develoment, you need a gnu/linux and bloated arduino ide nearby | Oct 12 04:43 |
| samiamsam | you don't need the ide | Oct 12 04:43 |
| MinceR | what tools do you need for the lattice FPGA board? | Oct 12 04:43 |
| samiamsam | i don't use it | Oct 12 04:43 |
| samiamsam | but anyway. is this fpga more powerful tha nthe arduino? | Oct 12 04:43 |
| MinceR | with the FPGA you can _probably_ have more confidence in the CPU you implement on it not being backdoored | Oct 12 04:44 |
| activelow | samiamsam: yes, and it is 100% free and opensource, a z80 soc can be deployed, or mos6502 or similar | Oct 12 04:44 |
| activelow | although... there is other aspects, to think about... anyway, why think at all | Oct 12 04:45 |
| activelow | MinceR: my scratchpad notes for z80 and required tooling is two sheets of paper already... cannot summarize this in a few sentences on irc | Oct 12 04:45 |
| MinceR | ouch | Oct 12 04:46 |
| activelow | short version: 100% free and opensource system requires a softcore FPGA SoC (not necessarily z80, currently not any RISC-V) | Oct 12 04:46 |
| MinceR | also, afaik arduinos have only microcontrollers on them, which tend to be severely limited compared to general purpose CPUs | Oct 12 04:46 |
| samiamsam | z80 isn't more powerful than the arduino though ? | Oct 12 04:46 |
| MinceR | well, the microcontroller i wrote code for (PIC) was certainly a lot less capable than a Z80 | Oct 12 04:47 |
| MinceR | iirc it didn't even have a real stack | Oct 12 04:47 |
| activelow | powerful how? 512KiB SRAM to begin with (and no mmu), and some FPGA board i knew can be clocked up to a few dozen MHz, which is alot faster than any original z80 clocked at 4MHz | Oct 12 04:47 |
| activelow | MinceR: i got a list of required parts, required tools, as said it is too much to summarize here | Oct 12 04:48 |
| activelow | and add to this, i cannot afford ti | Oct 12 04:48 |
| activelow | it | Oct 12 04:48 |
| MinceR | :( | Oct 12 04:48 |
| samiamsam | powerful from a user perspective | Oct 12 04:48 |
| activelow | samiamsam: the design is scalable, both in size and complexity | Oct 12 04:48 |
| activelow | i had seen z80 clocked up to 100MHz, however, designing a SoC to include various peripheral i/o isn't trivial, in particular when it shall remain 100% free and opensource | Oct 12 04:49 |
| samiamsam | the design, ok, but what about the hardware | Oct 12 04:50 |
| activelow | depends on what you mean with hardware... semiconductor manufacturing is outside my realm and field of expertise | Oct 12 04:50 |
| samiamsam | no i mean the particular piece of hardware you were taling about | Oct 12 04:51 |
| activelow | depending an what is desired, i cannot manufacture any of it: ttl 7400 parts, fpga, z80 parts, real manufacturing | Oct 12 04:51 |
| activelow | ok, just saying, real manufacturing | Oct 12 04:51 |
| activelow | samiamsam: i got different options | Oct 12 04:51 |
| samiamsam | is it going to run crypto streaming just fine | Oct 12 04:52 |
| samiamsam | just like https | Oct 12 04:52 |
| activelow | z80 era was X.25... | Oct 12 04:53 |
| samiamsam | not gonna run https on a z80 | Oct 12 04:53 |
| activelow | which btw. is another huge issue, x.25 dying, because it was deployed to critical infrastructure... airfield control, railway | Oct 12 04:53 |
| activelow | samiamsam: i don't know yet, however tcp/ip was demonstrated on z80/fuzix too... yes | Oct 12 04:54 |
| activelow | but it is, something different, somehow | Oct 12 04:54 |
| samiamsam | on this arduino i've got tcp/ip, it advertises itself over mdns too | Oct 12 04:56 |
| samiamsam | gets ip through dhcp | Oct 12 04:56 |
| samiamsam | using lwip | Oct 12 04:56 |
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| activelow | samiamsam: arduino is not free and opensource, bloated arduino ide | Oct 12 04:59 |
| samiamsam | i duno man, i don't use the ide, the go source for the build tool is available | Oct 12 04:59 |
| activelow | what was it, the microcontrollers of arduino? atmega risc. which is proprietary. | Oct 12 04:59 |
| activelow | i was thinking of free and opensource, atmega risc isn't, and an arduino isn't an FPGA. not saying arduino is bad, it is something different than i was thinking of. | Oct 12 05:00 |
| activelow | if you want free and opensource systems, arduino isn't to my knowledge. | Oct 12 05:01 |
| samiamsam | you mean just the cpu though right | Oct 12 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://slashdot.org/story/21/01/17/0024243/jamie-zawinski-calls-cinnamon-screensaver-lock-bypass-bug-unconscionable | Oct 12 05:02 |
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| activelow | CPU, peripheral I/O (such as ftdi usb), requirements for develoment... arduino is not free and opensource | Oct 12 05:02 |
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| samiamsam | what requirements for development | Oct 12 05:03 |
| samiamsam | anyway the arduino is a pretty impoverished runtime system | Oct 12 05:03 |
| activelow | schematics to begin with, digital circuit description, and tooling to deploy circuit description to FPGA | Oct 12 05:03 |
| activelow | as said, it is too much to discuss here | Oct 12 05:04 |
| samiamsam | you're talking about the cpu tho right | Oct 12 05:04 |
| samiamsam | on the arduino | Oct 12 05:04 |
| samiamsam | schematics of taht? | Oct 12 05:04 |
| activelow | no, i am talking about an entire SoC including peripheral i/o | Oct 12 05:05 |
| activelow | and no, a digital circuit description isn't the PCB designed with KiCad for example | Oct 12 05:05 |
| activelow | it is somewhat ironic, even ESA with their Leon SPARC seems they hadn't fully realized, what a free and opensource SoC would be | Oct 12 05:06 |
| samiamsam | peripheral io | Oct 12 05:06 |
| samiamsam | you mean the usb/serial ? | Oct 12 05:06 |
| samiamsam | serial over usb really i guess it is | Oct 12 05:06 |
| activelow | peripheral i/o includes everyting: an s100 type bus, storage, dram controller (if any), serial ... | Oct 12 05:07 |
| activelow | a CPU without peripherals is useless | Oct 12 05:07 |
| activelow | and often, even when a CPU is opensource (such as RISC-V, arduino/atmega isn't opensource at all), then peripheral I/O controllers are malicious | Oct 12 05:08 |
| activelow | such as USB, HDMI, ethernet, serial, storage, whatever else | Oct 12 05:08 |
| activelow | and then, if any free and opensource SoC shall be deployed ... then altera/xilinx await almost always, which is unacceptable for me | Oct 12 05:09 |
| samiamsam | all that stuff is on the chip from atmega? | Oct 12 05:11 |
| activelow | atmega offers different chips, and arduino offers different boards | Oct 12 05:12 |
| samiamsam | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266 | Oct 12 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ESP8266 - Wikipedia | Oct 12 05:13 | |
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| samiamsam | that's actually the one i have | Oct 12 05:14 |
| samiamsam | Processor: L106 32-bit RISC microprocessor core based on the Tensilica Xtensa Diamond Standard 106Micro running at 80 MHz[5] | Oct 12 05:14 |
| activelow | samiamsam: and it is a proprietary closed source system | Oct 12 05:15 |
| activelow | i am not aware of any circuit description of this one being available (stumbled upon it before) | Oct 12 05:15 |
| samiamsam | ESP8266 BASIC — An open-source BASIC-like interpreter specifically tailored for the Internet of Things (IoT). Self-hosting browser-based development environment. | Oct 12 05:16 |
| samiamsam | haha | Oct 12 05:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 12 05:16 |
| samiamsam | man that would be awesome on one of these | Oct 12 05:16 |
| activelow | well then, have fun with the basic interpreter, if this suffices to meet criteria of free and opensource systems of yours | Oct 12 05:17 |
| MinceR | for masochists only | Oct 12 05:17 |
| samiamsam | ya this shit is no good for general purpose computing | Oct 12 05:17 |
| samiamsam | activelow: i don't think the low level hardware is really part of the system, it's like a disposable substrate | Oct 12 05:20 |
| activelow | lowlevel hardware AND software, in this realm hardware and software aren't really distinct | Oct 12 05:21 |
| samiamsam | it's distinct pragmatically | Oct 12 05:21 |
| samiamsam | because i can take my software and recompile it for some other hardware vendor | Oct 12 05:21 |
| activelow | good luck to compile your software with a sane and clean compiler and toolchain | Oct 12 05:22 |
| samiamsam | um | Oct 12 05:22 |
| samiamsam | it usees gcc | Oct 12 05:22 |
| activelow | didn't review sdcc yet...; tinycc, pcc, and some others | Oct 12 05:23 |
| samiamsam | anyway arduino-cli is kind of annoying, but it just wraps gcc and handles cross compiling for the user | Oct 12 05:23 |
| samiamsam | and installing libraries and whatnot. kind of like a distribution | Oct 12 05:23 |
| samiamsam | like it has its own shitty package manager | Oct 12 05:24 |
| MinceR | it's the "disposable substrate" where all the spooks want their code to run on your computers | Oct 12 05:24 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: arduino? | Oct 12 05:24 |
| MinceR | whichever | Oct 12 05:24 |
| samiamsam | i mean that'd be totally crazy right | Oct 12 05:24 |
| MinceR | (though lately they're pretty insistent on putting their crap in every single layer there is) | Oct 12 05:24 |
| MinceR | well, if you can read/write RAM from it, it can be useful for a backdoor | Oct 12 05:24 |
| samiamsam | one thing i was thinking to do with arduino was make my own smart cards | Oct 12 05:24 |
| MinceR | unless RAM is encrypted and you can't access the key from there, i suppose | Oct 12 05:25 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: how are they going to get the data out? | Oct 12 05:25 |
| MinceR | some trace on the chip could act as a radio antenna | Oct 12 05:25 |
| MinceR | they might be able to use some sort of piezoelectric effect or a speaker that's on the board to exfiltrate via ultrasound | Oct 12 05:25 |
| MinceR | or just blink an LED (quickly so the human operator won't be able to tell it's happening) | Oct 12 05:26 |
| samiamsam | there's no speaker | Oct 12 05:26 |
| samiamsam | the led stays off | Oct 12 05:26 |
| samiamsam | it does have wifi | Oct 12 05:26 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 12 05:26 |
| MinceR | "how are they going to get the data out?", he asks about a device that has wifi | Oct 12 05:26 |
| samiamsam | they're just gonna put it on the wifi | Oct 12 05:26 |
| samiamsam | like have their own implementation of dhcp in there? | Oct 12 05:27 |
| samiamsam | then send that shit right out on the internet i guess | Oct 12 05:27 |
| samiamsam | ya? | Oct 12 05:27 |
| samiamsam | i should check my dhcpd logs | Oct 12 05:28 |
| samiamsam | ya think? | Oct 12 05:28 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Oct 12 05:28 |
| MinceR | what if their dhcp client implementation is on the wifi chip? | Oct 12 05:28 |
| samiamsam | the secret radio transmitter made more sense | Oct 12 05:28 |
| samiamsam | ya, it can be | Oct 12 05:28 |
| samiamsam | i just said that | Oct 12 05:28 |
| samiamsam | 00:27 <samiamsam> like have their own implementation of dhcp in there? | Oct 12 05:29 |
| MinceR | though it doesn't even have to be wifi | Oct 12 05:29 |
| samiamsam | so how close do the vans have to be to this shit | Oct 12 05:29 |
| MinceR | it has access to a nice antenna, it probably has all the side channels it could possibly want | Oct 12 05:29 |
| samiamsam | and it's just going to transmit the full value of ram on a regular basis right | Oct 12 05:29 |
| samiamsam | or does it scan the memory for keywords? | Oct 12 05:30 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Oct 12 05:30 |
| MinceR | whatever the authors of the backdoor or their clients want | Oct 12 05:30 |
| samiamsam | i guess the iphone image hash search is the ideal | Oct 12 05:32 |
| samiamsam | pedo hash search | Oct 12 05:33 |
| samiamsam | maybe the cpu can store a bunch of hashes and continuously scan memory for matches on these hashes | Oct 12 05:33 |
| samiamsam | i don't think any clients going to pay to put this shit into arduinos that sell on amazon for $3 tho, on iphones it's worth it yes | Oct 12 05:34 |
| samiamsam | on these embedded systems it wouldn't even be workable | Oct 12 05:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, for now arduinos seem to have a less stupid target audience | Oct 12 05:35 |
| samiamsam | smaller audience more importantly | Oct 12 05:35 |
| activelow | somehow, it is good particular systems are not touched by particular entities | Oct 12 05:35 |
| samiamsam | effecitvely zero | Oct 12 05:35 |
| activelow | which, wehenever they touch anything, they clusterfuck and ruin it | Oct 12 05:35 |
| MinceR | case in point: samiamsam's favorite OS | Oct 12 05:36 |
| samiamsam | debian gnu/systemd/linux | Oct 12 05:36 |
| activelow | particular systems aren't sold anywhere | Oct 12 05:36 |
| activelow | and do not rund gnu/linux either | Oct 12 05:36 |
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| activelow | so, this is a neat precaution, intentional or not | Oct 12 05:37 |
| activelow | it keeps away some certain type of people and mindset, naturally | Oct 12 05:37 |
| samiamsam | normal people don't even keep data on their computers anymore | Oct 12 05:39 |
| samiamsam | it belongs to the apps | Oct 12 05:40 |
| samiamsam | who store it in the cloud | Oct 12 05:40 |
| samiamsam | normies lol | Oct 12 05:42 |
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| psydruid | > you gotta facedesk when you see gnu/linux users shilling ddg | Oct 12 06:15 |
| psydruid | A professor for my "web and data" course was shilling ddg, I wonder how much she was offered for doing so | Oct 12 06:15 |
| psydruid | > it's a stupid, non-unix default | Oct 12 06:17 |
| psydruid | > but it's there because poettering likes it | Oct 12 06:17 |
| psydruid | lennart putering and butchering while looking out of his windows | Oct 12 06:17 |
| psydruid | > maybe it wasn't debian who decided, it was mainly Gnome/KDE, because with systemd/dbus Gnome and KDE are gone (at best only gtk and qt widget toolkits remain, and even this requires patching and heavy intervention by recompiling the entire system from source, only possible with gentoo and similar) | Oct 12 06:33 |
| psydruid | I use GNOME nowhere and KDE only on my main laptop, so I guess both are becoming irrelevant for my purposes. Even XFCE was acting weird for me last night so on that lower-end laptop I switched to MATE. Next step will be to run a window manager because everything has just become too bloated and slow Windows-style. | Oct 12 06:33 |
| psydruid | Or just live in the console | Oct 12 06:34 |
| psydruid | I guess I should look more into TUI applications | Oct 12 06:34 |
| activelow | psydruid: you're studying? whatever it is you are studying, be cautious to not waste time with openwashed nonsense. | Oct 12 06:35 |
| psydruid | activelow, I know it pretty well, I'm cautious with the university and the professors and only retain and use what I consider useful | Oct 12 06:37 |
| psydruid | I mean I'm skeptical towards them, but it could be much worse | Oct 12 06:38 |
| samiamsam | i'm just using xmonad | Oct 12 06:43 |
| activelow | haskell, not sure what to think of this... another programming language | Oct 12 06:46 |
| samiamsam | haskell is really amazing to use hard to learn though | Oct 12 06:47 |
| activelow | more difficult than perl or c? | Oct 12 06:48 |
| samiamsam | xmonad is just a tiling wm | Oct 12 06:48 |
| activelow | written in haskell | Oct 12 06:49 |
| activelow | not saying this is a bad choice, i reject any new programming language | Oct 12 06:49 |
| samiamsam | it's probably not more difficult than perl or c except that perl and c are basically the same thing and if you already know that thing | Oct 12 06:49 |
| samiamsam | what do you mean new? | Oct 12 06:50 |
| activelow | well, Hasekell is both new to me, and it appeared rather late in comparison to perl or c or fortran | Oct 12 06:50 |
| activelow | i blacklisted haskell | Oct 12 06:51 |
| activelow | and do not miss anything so far | Oct 12 06:51 |
| samiamsam | haskell and perl came around the same time | Oct 12 06:51 |
| samiamsam | late 1980s | Oct 12 06:52 |
| samiamsam | but today haskell is a lot more powerful than perl | Oct 12 06:52 |
| activelow | hasekell appeared 1990, perl appeared 1988 | Oct 12 06:52 |
| samiamsam | haskell 1.0 released in 1990 | Oct 12 06:53 |
| samiamsam | is 1.0 appearance? | Oct 12 06:53 |
| samiamsam | 38. ^ Wadler, Philip (October 1988). "How to make ad-hoc polymorphism less ad hoc". | Oct 12 06:53 |
| activelow | if you want to split hairs over this | Oct 12 06:53 |
| samiamsam | first paper published about haskell implementation ? | Oct 12 06:53 |
| activelow | my argument is this: too many different programming languages, libraries, without any benefit | Oct 12 06:54 |
| activelow | since i can blackist haskell without loosing anything relevant here, i cannot do this with perl | Oct 12 06:54 |
| samiamsam | they mostly all have benefits | Oct 12 06:54 |
| samiamsam | haskell is lovely tohugh | Oct 12 06:54 |
| samiamsam | any kind of stuff i used to do with perl, now i do it with haskell | Oct 12 06:55 |
| activelow | i rather blacklist both, however cannot with perl, because it is required for things | Oct 12 06:55 |
| activelow | ideally, i could blacklist bash, and replace it with some ksh compliant interpreter, but gentoo ... wants bash | Oct 12 06:56 |
| samiamsam | what shell do you use? | Oct 12 06:57 |
| activelow | bash | Oct 12 06:57 |
| samiamsam | what do you mean blacklist | Oct 12 06:57 |
| activelow | remove it | Oct 12 06:57 |
| activelow | on gentoo some listings exist, to remove malware | Oct 12 06:58 |
| samiamsam | yet you're using it as your interactive shell | Oct 12 06:58 |
| activelow | yes, because i need gentoo tooling | Oct 12 06:58 |
| activelow | package.mask, use flags, all this; i spare you the details; i need gentoo for blacklisting | Oct 12 06:59 |
| activelow | and gentoo loves bash | Oct 12 06:59 |
| samiamsam | that doesn't mean you need to use it as your interactive shell though | Oct 12 06:59 |
| activelow | export POSIXLY_STRICT=1 ... breaks things | Oct 12 07:00 |
| activelow | ups, POSIXLY_CORRECT it is | Oct 12 07:00 |
| samiamsam | zsh and fish look nice | Oct 12 07:01 |
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| psydruid | all of this looks fishy to me | Oct 12 07:18 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, October 11, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Oct 12 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Oct 12 07:48 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Oct 12 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Oct 12 07:48 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CJEU ☞ JUDGMENT OF THE COURT (Fifth Chamber) 6 October 2021 [...] Case C-13/20 https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=247056&text=&dir=&doclang=EN&part=1&occ=first&mode=DOC&pageIndex=0&cid=10751201 | Oct 12 07:57 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 europa.eu is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 07:57 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=247056&text=&dir=&doclang=EN&part=1&occ=first&mode=DOC&pageIndex=0&cid=10751201 | Oct 12 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curia.europa.eu | CURIA - Documents | Oct 12 07:57 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CarlSvensson ☞ Fleeting Memories of Youth and the Increasing Impermanence of Culture https://www.datagubbe.se/fleeting/ | Oct 12 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fleeting Memories of Youth and the Increasing Impermanence of Culture | datagubbe.se | Oct 12 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #WhichUK #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Fake ads rife on #Bing as investment scams jump 84% https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/10/fake-ads-rife-on-bing-as-investment-scams-jump-84/ | Oct 12 08:04 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 which.co.uk is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:04 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/10/fake-ads-rife-on-bing-as-investment-scams-jump-84/ | Oct 12 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.which.co.uk | Fake ads rife on Bing as investment scams jump 84% – Which? News | Oct 12 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Fake ads rife on Bing as investment scams jump 84% – Which? News | Oct 12 08:04 | |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft #Windows TCO: ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Cyber insurance should not cover ransoms: #Australia officials https://itwire.com/security/cyber-insurance-should-not-cover-ransoms-australian-cyber-officials.html | Oct 12 08:04 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 itwire.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:04 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/cyber-insurance-should-not-cover-ransoms-australian-cyber-officials.html | Oct 12 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Cyber insurance should not cover ransoms: Australian officials | Oct 12 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211012070513/https://itwire.com/security/cyber-insurance-should-not-cover-ransoms-australian-cyber-officials.html ) | Oct 12 08:05 | |
| techrights-news | Once again, without any warning or notification, #bt decided to remotely change 'my' router and reboot it at 4AM, changing my IP address and leaving services down until I woke up. #proprietarySoftware is hostile junk. They also did this 6 months ago and will do it in the future. You can't opt out or be notified. http://techrights.org/2021/04/18/firmware-ruins-whole-day/ | Oct 12 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proprietary Software (BT Hub) Has Ruined My Whole Day | Techrights | Oct 12 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #ScreenRant #ProprietarySoftware ☞ How A #Chromebook Is Different To A Windows Laptop (And Which Is Best) https://screenrant.com/chromebook-windows-laptop-differences-best-buy-explained/ | Oct 12 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-screenrant.com | How A Chromebook Is Different To A Windows Laptop (And Which Is Best) | Oct 12 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #GizmoChina #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Google’s Fuchsia OS to support more devices and other form factors https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/10/12/google-fuchsia-os-more-devices-other-form-factors/ | Oct 12 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/10/12/google-fuchsia-os-more-devices-other-form-factors/ ) | Oct 12 08:07 | |
| altlink_051 | 📣 gizmochina.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:07 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/10/12/google-fuchsia-os-more-devices-other-form-factors/ | Oct 12 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211012070749/https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/10/12/google-fuchsia-os-more-devices-other-form-factors/ ) | Oct 12 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #PCWorld #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ What is a #TPM and why isn’t mine working? https://www.pcworld.com/article/394765/what-is-a-tpm-where-do-i-find-it-and-turn-it-on.html | Oct 12 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is a TPM, and how do I find it and turn it on? | PCWorld | Oct 12 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook Changes the Way It Measures Accounts for Advertisers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-11/facebook-changes-the-way-it-measures-accounts-for-advertisers | Oct 12 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Oct 12 08:08 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ The terrifying expansion of #Sweden ’s state surveillance https://edri.org/our-work/the-terrifying-expansion-of-swedens-state-surveillance/ | Oct 12 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | The terrifying expansion of Sweden’s state surveillance - European Digital Rights (EDRi) | Oct 12 08:09 | |
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| schestowitz__[TR] | Tue 02:26:46 │ 〖activelow〗 │ links is buggy and the source code is, uhm, special... failed. | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Tue 02:27:29 │ 〖activelow〗 │ netsurf-fb has unacceptable limitations (no tabbed browsing) and it isn't showing anyting on /dev/fb0 here... failed. | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Tue 02:29:20 │ 〖activelow〗 │ lynx browser remains, it is what it is, limited; w3m is clumsy, and neither lynx nor w3m show images on framebuffer console | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Tue 02:37:59 │ 〖AdmFubar〗 │ how about nyxt? | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Tue 02:41:16 │ 〖MinceR〗 │ samiamsam: it does not qualify per the Free Software Definition >> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html | Oct 12 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Oct 12 08:11 | |
| schestowitz__[TR] | turns out I missed only one line of these logs | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | the server still logged it | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | sorry for the rant | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | all the machines went offline around 4am | Oct 12 08:11 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | gemini was then offline for 4 hours because IP address had changed | Oct 12 08:12 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | this is the pain of stupid proprietary router | Oct 12 08:12 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | silently got new firmware last night | Oct 12 08:12 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | half a day later rebooted itself | Oct 12 08:12 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Same as last time: http://techrights.org/2021/04/18/firmware-ruins-whole-day/ | Oct 12 08:13 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | some services were not restored until I woke up | Oct 12 08:13 |
| *schestowitz__[TR] is now known as schestowitz[TR] | Oct 12 08:13 | |
| *activelow didn't notice | Oct 12 08:13 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | for me it's a major problem | Oct 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | only this line was missed: | Oct 12 08:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | [08:11] <schestowitz__[TR]> Tue 02:37:59 │ 〖AdmFubar〗 │ how about nyxt? | Oct 12 08:14 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▂▁▂▅▅▆▇▃▅▅▆▇▇▅▆▅▄▅▄▆▆▅▅▆▇▆▅▅▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 24.08 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▃▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▅▁▂▁▂▂▃▇▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 6.78▕ swarm size (avg): 261.01 ⟲ | Oct 12 08:20 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #RFERL #Energy ☞ #Iran 's Power Company Warns Of Cuts Due To Illegal #Cryptocurrency Mining https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-power-cuts-cryptocurrency/31502220.html | Oct 12 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Iran's Power Company Warns Of Cuts Due To Illegal Cryptocurrency Mining | Oct 12 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #EestiRahvusringhääling #Politics ☞ E-voting glitch which gave first 900 voters inaccurate information fixed https://news.err.ee/1608366156/e-voting-glitch-which-gave-first-900-voters-inaccurate-information-fixed | Oct 12 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | E-voting glitch which gave first 900 voters inaccurate information fixed | 2021 Elections | ERR | Oct 12 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Politics ☞ #Facebook #whistleblower Frances #Haugen to speak to its Oversight Board https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/11/22721229/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen-instagram-oversight-board | Oct 12 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen to speak to its Oversight Board - The Verge | Oct 12 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheHill #Misinformation #Disinformation ☞ Throttling #freespeech is not the way to fix #Facebook and other social media https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/576062-throttling-free-speech-is-not-the-way-to-fix-facebook-and-other-social | Oct 12 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Throttling free speech is not the way to fix Facebook and other social media | TheHill | Oct 12 08:25 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheNewArab #Censorship ☞ Iranian women on TV banned from eating pizza because it's too provocative https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/iranian-women-banned-eating-pizza-screen | Oct 12 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.alaraby.co.uk | Iranian women on TV banned from eating pizza because it's too provocative | Oct 12 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CPJ #Censorship ☞ #Tanzania #police arrest cartoonist, journalists on cybercrime and illegal assembly allegations https://cpj.org/2021/10/tanzania-police-arrest-cartoonist-journalists-on-cybercrime-and-illegal-assembly-allegations/ | Oct 12 08:26 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 cpj.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:26 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cpj.org/2021/10/tanzania-police-arrest-cartoonist-journalists-on-cybercrime-and-illegal-assembly-allegations/ | Oct 12 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cpj.org | Tanzania police arrest cartoonist, journalists on cybercrime and illegal assembly allegations - Committee to Protect Journalists | Oct 12 08:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Tanzania police arrest cartoonist, journalists on cybercrime and illegal assembly allegations - Committee to Protect Journalists | Oct 12 08:26 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #IsraelNationalNews #Censorship ☞ In #France “justice” serves Islamism https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/314750 | Oct 12 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.israelnationalnews.com | In France “justice” serves Islamism - Israel National News | Oct 12 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheHindu #Censorship ☞ #Australia mulls measures making social media giants responsible for defamatory postings https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/australia-mulls-measures-making-social-media-giants-responsible-for-defamatory-postings/article36924505.ece | Oct 12 08:27 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 thehindu.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:27 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/australia-mulls-measures-making-social-media-giants-responsible-for-defamatory-postings/article36924505.ece | Oct 12 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | Australia mulls measures making social media giants responsible for defamatory postings - The Hindu | Oct 12 08:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Australia mulls measures making social media giants responsible for defamatory postings - The Hindu | Oct 12 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | ● [Old] ● #TheConversation #Censorship ☞ #Facebook or #Twitter posts can now be quietly modified by the government under new surveillance laws https://theconversation.com/facebook-or-twitter-posts-can-now-be-quietly-modified-by-the-government-under-new-surveillance-laws-167263 | Oct 12 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Facebook or Twitter posts can now be quietly modified by the government under new surveillance laws | Oct 12 08:28 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #StockholmCenterForFreedom #Censorship ☞ Exiled journalist establishes publishing house to print books banned in #Turkey https://stockholmcf.org/exiled-journalist-establishes-publishing-house-to-print-books-banned-in-turkey/ | Oct 12 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stockholmcf.org | Exiled journalist establishes publishing house to print books banned in Turkey - Stockholm Center for Freedom | Oct 12 08:29 | |
| schlock | Frances Haugen | Oct 12 08:34 |
| *schlock spits | Oct 12 08:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | why? | Oct 12 08:38 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Stundin #PressFreedom ☞ Key witness in #Assange case jailed in #Iceland after admitting to lies and ongoing crime spree https://stundin.is/grein/14117/ | Oct 12 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stundin.is | Key witness in Assange case jailed in Iceland after admitting to lies and ongoing crime spree - Stundin | Oct 12 08:38 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #NationalPost #PressFreedom ☞ Does #Canada consider #WikiLeaks a terrorist group, Chelsea Manning's lawyer asks at immigration hearing https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/does-canada-consider-wikileaks-a-terrorist-group-chelsea-mannings-lawyer-asks-at-immigration-hearing | Oct 12 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nationalpost.com | Does Canada consider WikiLeaks a terrorist group, Chelsea Manning's lawyer asks at immigration hearing | National Post | Oct 12 08:38 | |
| gustaf | not hot enough for you schlock ? | Oct 12 08:38 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #RSF #PressFreedom ☞ 2021 Nobel Peace Prize – “an extraordinary tribute to #journalism ,” says #RSF https://rsf.org/en/news/2021-nobel-peace-prize-extraordinary-tribute-journalism-says-rsf | Oct 12 08:39 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 rsf.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:39 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rsf.org/en/news/2021-nobel-peace-prize-extraordinary-tribute-journalism-says-rsf | Oct 12 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | 2021 Nobel Peace Prize – “an extraordinary tribute to journalism,” says RSF | RSF | Oct 12 08:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 2021 Nobel Peace Prize – “an extraordinary tribute to journalism,” says RSF | RSF | Oct 12 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #AtlanticCouncil #PressFreedom ☞ When Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria #Ressa appeared at the #AtlanticCouncil https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/when-nobel-peace-prize-winner-maria-ressa-appeared-at-the-atlantic-council/ | Oct 12 08:39 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 atlanticcouncil.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:39 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/when-nobel-peace-prize-winner-maria-ressa-appeared-at-the-atlantic-council/ | Oct 12 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlanticcouncil.org | When Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria Ressa appeared at the Atlantic Council - Atlantic Council | Oct 12 08:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | When Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria Ressa appeared at the Atlantic Council - Atlantic Council | Oct 12 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #RSF #PressFreedom ☞ Indian TV reporter found dead after covering violence at farmers’ protest https://rsf.org/en/news/indian-tv-reporter-found-dead-after-covering-violence-farmers-protest | Oct 12 08:40 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 rsf.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:40 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rsf.org/en/news/indian-tv-reporter-found-dead-after-covering-violence-farmers-protest | Oct 12 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Indian TV reporter found dead after covering violence at farmers’ protest | RSF | Oct 12 08:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Indian TV reporter found dead after covering violence at farmers’ protest | RSF | Oct 12 08:40 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Monopolies ☞ #Microsoft Says Pact Lets Ex-Amazon Executive Begin New Role https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-11/microsoft-says-pact-lets-ex-amazon-executive-begin-new-role evil companies sharing pools of sociopaths for similarly bad objectives which harm society | Oct 12 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Oct 12 08:43 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #VPN Service 'Agrees' to Block #BitTorrent and Keep Logs to Settle [file sharing] Lawsuit (Updated) https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-service-will-block-bittorrent-and-keep-logs-to-settle-piracy-lawsuit-211011/ | Oct 12 08:45 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 torrentfreak.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:45 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-service-will-block-bittorrent-and-keep-logs-to-settle-piracy-lawsuit-211011/ | Oct 12 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VPN Service 'Agrees' to Block BitTorrent and Keep Logs to Settle Piracy Lawsuit (Updated) * TorrentFreak | Oct 12 08:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | VPN Service 'Agrees' to Block BitTorrent and Keep Logs to Settle Piracy Lawsuit (Updated) * TorrentFreak | Oct 12 08:45 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Don't Believe Nitro #IPTV 'Lies', We Need Access to Their Millions, Hollywood Says https://torrentfreak.com/dont-believe-nitro-iptv-lies-we-need-access-to-their-millions-hollywood-says-211011/ | Oct 12 08:46 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 torrentfreak.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 08:46 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/dont-believe-nitro-iptv-lies-we-need-access-to-their-millions-hollywood-says-211011/ | Oct 12 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Don't Believe Nitro IPTV 'Lies', We Need Access to Their Millions, Hollywood Says * TorrentFreak | Oct 12 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211012074639/https://torrentfreak.com/dont-believe-nitro-iptv-lies-we-need-access-to-their-millions-hollywood-says-211011/ ) | Oct 12 08:46 | |
| techrights-news | Today and tomorrow #techrights will be focused on #switzerland again | Oct 12 08:48 |
| techrights-news | #linuxhint has been pushing too much #microsoft stuff, #windows stuff, and the company's #proprietarySoftware lately. I cannot recommend that site. It wasn't this bad until this year. | Oct 12 08:52 |
| activelow | found a compromise to cope with gtk/qt/x11, because i didn't want to maintain two different profiles for their inclusion/exclusion | Oct 12 08:54 |
| psydruid | no Intel Alder Lake stuff to go with the #Microsoft stuff? | Oct 12 08:55 |
| activelow | to keep dependency graph against the undesired gtk/qt/x11 things minimal, i do this now: set -X11 -gtk -qt use flags globally, and then then enable those flags per individual packages which require those , which is only a few dozen | Oct 12 08:56 |
| activelow | so, now i can do both, drop the separate x11/noX11 profiles, and keep the dependency graph against x11/gtk/qt minimal. | Oct 12 08:57 |
| activelow | sorry psydruid. ok, next topic. how are intel alder lake and microsoft related? | Oct 12 08:58 |
| psydruid | activelow, Microsoft and Intel are interwined compagnies, Intel Alder Lake is also being used to push Windows 11, because onder versions of Windows supposedly can't properly make use of the processor | Oct 12 09:06 |
| psydruid | companies* | Oct 12 09:06 |
| techrights-news | ##JavaScript (JS) Programming • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156683 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JavaScript (JS) Programming | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:10 | |
| psydruid | other* | Oct 12 09:11 |
| techrights-news | Ｔｅｃｈｒｉｇｈｔｓ #IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 11, 2021 • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/irc-log-111021/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/irc-log-111021/ | Oct 12 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 11, 2021 | Techrights | Oct 12 09:11 | |
| psydruid | let me rewrite that, I had Dutch spellcheck on | Oct 12 09:12 |
| psydruid | activelow, Microsoft and Intel are interwined companies, Intel Alder Lake is also being used to push Windows 11, because older versions of Windows supposedly can't properly make use of the processor | Oct 12 09:12 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ 'Waive the #Patents ': #Moderna Still Refuses to Share #Covid19 #Vaccine Recipe https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/waive-patents-moderna-still-refuses-share-covid-19-vaccine-recipe | Oct 12 09:13 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 commondreams.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 09:13 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/waive-patents-moderna-still-refuses-share-covid-19-vaccine-recipe | Oct 12 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Waive the Patents': Moderna Still Refuses to Share Covid-19 Vaccine Recipe | Oct 12 09:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 'Waive the Patents': Moderna Still Refuses to Share Covid-19 Vaccine Recipe | Oct 12 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ 24 More Nations Join Global #Methane Pledge Welcomed as 'Great Start' But Inadequate https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/24-more-nations-join-global-methane-pledge-welcomed-great-start-inadequate | Oct 12 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 24 More Nations Join Global Methane Pledge Welcomed as 'Great Start' But Inadequate | Oct 12 09:13 | |
| altlink_051 | 📣 commondreams.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 09:13 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/24-more-nations-join-global-methane-pledge-welcomed-great-start-inadequate | Oct 12 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 24 More Nations Join Global Methane Pledge Welcomed as 'Great Start' But Inadequate | Oct 12 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Tor #torproject ☞ New Release: #TorBrowser 11.0a8 (Android Only) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-110a8 | Oct 12 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 11.0a8 (Android Only) | Tor Blog | Oct 12 09:15 | |
| schlock | MinceR: bravo on truth talk about systemd. everything you've spoken about including the hanging and having to log in to other prompts to shut down has happened to me. | Oct 12 09:15 |
| schlock | and everyone who has been stucking using arch linux with system d. | Oct 12 09:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we call it systemdehomag sometimes | Oct 12 09:16 |
| activelow | psydruid: no problem. thinking of "Intel" again... the original engineers founded their own company: Zilog (including lattice semiconductor) | Oct 12 09:16 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehomag?wprov=srpw1_0 | Oct 12 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dehomag - Wikipedia | Oct 12 09:16 | |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: yep it has another name here but i forget at the moment. | Oct 12 09:16 |
| activelow | psydruid: meaning the real intel guys are ... zilog, while the intel branding is something else | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: apologies just saw your question: Frances Haugen isn't a real whistleblower i'm afraid. | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schlock | she'a a plant. | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm a seed | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | she is a plant | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schlock | and her going about begging for more censorship should be the big tip off. | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you are a tree | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: this is not what she does | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | she complains about the platform | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and its impact on health | Oct 12 09:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I don't know yet if she is ALSO the same as the leaker of FBIngstaram impact on young women | Oct 12 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe the articles state so, but I did not read closely enough | Oct 12 09:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▃▅▆▅▇▃▄▆▄▅▅▆▄▆▅▆▅▇▄▃▄▄▅▅▆▄▅▂▃▄▅▅▆▄▁ avg(k/sec) 26.03 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▄▅▂▂▁▁▄▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▆▁▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 7.51▕ swarm size (avg): 261.01 ⟲ | Oct 12 09:18 |
| schlock | i've seen a lot of skullduggery in the past 5+ decades, i'll just sit back and watch it all come out in the wash. | Oct 12 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the net effect of what she does right now is positive | Oct 12 09:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because we need people to get OFF these platforms | Oct 12 09:18 |
| psydruid | activelow, Federico Faggin left early from what I've read and went on to invent many other technologies that have become commonplace in our "modern" world | Oct 12 09:19 |
| schlock | i am the "i told you so" of the people usually. :) | Oct 12 09:19 |
| techrights-news | Uploading extreme material? Blame Free software. Hosting a Web site with #Freesoftware h Blame Free software for serving extremist content. http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/fud-facepalm/ #freesw #censorship | Oct 12 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Extreme Views About Software Freedom | Techrights | Oct 12 09:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: we need these defectors | Oct 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I could go on and call her hypocrite | Oct 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for working in FB | Oct 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | pursuing a job there | Oct 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and earning big salaries, which she kept | Oct 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but that would help FB | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: we can agree to disagree and see how things fall out in hindsight. | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and those looking to demonise her | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need these "pentagon tech" defectors" | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | When Stamos did that to FB I called him out on it | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Alex Stamos | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he ten blocked me in Twitter | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we have some Microsoft defectors | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they give us valuable information on bad things Microsoft does | Oct 12 09:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even if they made money from Microsoft, now they're causing Microsoft very major damage | Oct 12 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | EPO workers too | Oct 12 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they work for an evil org | Oct 12 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but they help expose it | Oct 12 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the FB fallout is not much to do with censorship | Oct 12 09:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's more about how harmful it is, in general, to society | Oct 12 09:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what will gain at FB's expense is a blank slate | Oct 12 09:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need to make sure it's not other social control 'media' | Oct 12 09:23 |
| techrights-news | The Administrative Council of the European #Patent Organisation is having its 168th meeting tomorrow and we expect no expression of remorse for illegally crushing #EPO staff (almost 7,000 individuals and their families) for nearly a decade http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/epo-administrative-council-168th-meeting/ | Oct 12 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The 168th Meeting of the EPO Administrative Council as a Test of the EPO’s Oversight Mechanisms | Techrights | Oct 12 09:24 | |
| schlock | i'm well aware of how evil the shenanigans of that lot are. i don't need any convincing on that, i'm also seeing patterns that are making me trust my gut. | Oct 12 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you don't need to be enamored with the WBers | Oct 12 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but don't think condemning them helps anyone but bad people | Oct 12 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like people who attack Thunberg because of how corporate media uses her | Oct 12 09:25 |
| activelow | psydruid: federico among others, the orignal intel staff founded zilog; and best of it they are in business still, with lattice semi and their fpga offerings (which some hackers prefer, couldn't try myself) | Oct 12 09:25 |
| activelow | wished i was 20years younger and had available what lattice semi and zilog and fuzixos offer nowadays | Oct 12 09:26 |
| techrights-news | The #EPO ‘s “alpha male” who was not #BenoîtBattistelli and not French like #AntónioCampinos , either, was #RolandGrossenbacher ; today we take a closer look at Roland Grossenbacher, Christian Bock, and #CatherineChammartin http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/swiss-epo-role/ | Oct 12 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IX: More Holes Than Swiss Cheese | Techrights | Oct 12 09:26 | |
| activelow | and, the gigatron ttl too, which was released 2019 | Oct 12 09:26 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: it all will come out in the wash. :) | Oct 12 09:27 |
| techrights-news | Following the release of Part 9 in the EPO series about Benoît Battistelli‘s unlawful (anti-) “strike regulations” we discuss the role (or Swiss roll) of #Switzerland in crushing #EPO workers http://techrights.org/2021/10/11/swiss-roll-legal-fudge/ #europe #iloat | Oct 12 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Betrayal Not Only of Swiss Workers But All European Workers, Courtesy of Roland Grossenbacher and Christian Bock | Techrights | Oct 12 09:27 | |
| schlock | i'm definitely not against whistle blowers but real ones usually end up in jail. | Oct 12 09:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it depends | Oct 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | from what I heard, she faces legal action | Oct 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but she didn't truck out a lot of documents | Oct 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | she uses verbal testimony | Oct 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's the "Safe" channel | Oct 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Reality Winner leaked some documents | Oct 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | put it in her pantyhose and mailed it to Omidyar publication | Oct 12 09:29 |
| schlock | i'm all about remaining on good terms with good people. i'll agree to disagree until i find information that changes my mind or yours or anybody elses. | Oct 12 09:31 |
| schlock | this is a channel full of passionate people who want to see crooks fall and help make that happen. | Oct 12 09:32 |
| schlock | that's material. | Oct 12 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need substantial proof | Oct 12 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I saw nothing on Frances that suggests she's not good-intentioned | Oct 12 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I don't trust easily people who pursued a job at Google and then FB | Oct 12 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're money worshipers | Oct 12 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or power trippers | Oct 12 09:33 |
| schlock | yep understood. | Oct 12 09:33 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies ☞ 'Reckless': Doctors Without Borders Slams US for Hoarding 500 Million #Vaccine Doses https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/reckless-doctors-without-borders-slams-us-hoarding-500-million-vaccine-doses | Oct 12 09:34 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 commondreams.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 09:34 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/reckless-doctors-without-borders-slams-us-hoarding-500-million-vaccine-doses | Oct 12 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Reckless': Doctors Without Borders Slams US for Hoarding 500 Million Vaccine Doses | Oct 12 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211012083423/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/11/reckless-doctors-without-borders-slams-us-hoarding-500-million-vaccine-doses ) | Oct 12 09:34 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156673 | Oct 12 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSCAL, Open Labs, Mozilla & grooming women for Outreachy | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:35 | |
| schlock | i'm just the lowly janitor but if i can help with graphics, videos, research, whatnot at least there's that. :) | Oct 12 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, thank you | Oct 12 09:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need lots of that | Oct 12 09:36 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: and just to make sure that it's dead clear i have the utmost respect for what everyone here is doing. we may disagree on things or come from different paradigms but we're obviously all on the parallel path to freedom. | Oct 12 09:36 |
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| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156684 #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:41 | |
| activelow | gtk3 ebuild defined opengl/mesa (for proprietary malicious hardware) as a dependency, however, it seems to compile just fine without it when hacked | Oct 12 09:41 |
| techrights-news | Why pre-installation is so important • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156685 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why pre-installation is so important | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:41 | |
| activelow | cannot verify all distros, suspect nonetheless mesa/opengl are pulled in everywhere although not required for a gui/desktop | Oct 12 09:42 |
| techrights-news | FOSS #Torrents Is Your Gate For Linux Distributions Torrents • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156686 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Torrents Is Your Gate For Linux Distributions Torrents | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:42 | |
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| activelow | in parallel "tech" news are flooded with announcements how awesome malcious AMD/Intel/Nvidia are supported on GNU/Linux | Oct 12 09:42 |
| techrights-news | #Ubuntu 21.10: What’s New? [Video] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156491#comment-31342 | Oct 12 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 is upon us, and it's small changes for major improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:43 | |
| acer-box | activelow: yes, exactly | Oct 12 09:43 |
| acer-box | but!!!! | Oct 12 09:43 |
| acer-box | to some people it does matter | Oct 12 09:43 |
| acer-box | they don't think like you | Oct 12 09:43 |
| acer-box | I'm in the middle | Oct 12 09:43 |
| acer-box | we need to eradicate Windows | Oct 12 09:44 |
| activelow | then, silently, all codepaths which did not require any of this wre deactivated (directfb, simd-optimized software-renderers, mplayer dvd playback which is possible without any nvidia voodoo) | Oct 12 09:44 |
| acer-box | so all that Steam DRM and blobs for GPU help | Oct 12 09:44 |
| activelow | Installing (30 of 32) x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.22::hotfix -> WITHOUT mesa/opengl | Oct 12 09:44 |
| schlock | is opengl compromised?! | Oct 12 09:45 |
| activelow | yes, by design | Oct 12 09:45 |
| schlock | oh damn my partner has been using that. | Oct 12 09:46 |
| schlock | and there's no real alternative is there? | Oct 12 09:46 |
| activelow | not anymore, not really, no | Oct 12 09:46 |
| *schlock sighs | Oct 12 09:47 | |
| activelow | i did revive directfb, and cleaned the dependency graph here, which is somewhat limited, but good enough for me | Oct 12 09:47 |
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| acer-box | activelow: directfb is not an alternative | Oct 12 09:49 |
| acer-box | it is just something different | Oct 12 09:49 |
| acer-box | opengl is a language for rendering things at another level | Oct 12 09:49 |
| acer-box | afaik, rendering by the pixel isn't the same at all | Oct 12 09:49 |
| schlock | this is so frustrating. so many good projects have died and we're left using compromised everything, literally. | Oct 12 09:49 |
| acer-box | he means compromised in the freedom sense | Oct 12 09:50 |
| acer-box | in the sense we cannot access all the "tech" sans the "AYE PEE" (IP) | Oct 12 09:50 |
| activelow | acer-box: yes, the software-stack for software-only rendering is slightly different when opengl (among other vendor-specific nonsense) is completely removed | Oct 12 09:50 |
| acer-box | and secrecy/onfuscation | Oct 12 09:50 |
| acer-box | so we get a 'Linux' with lots of blobs | Oct 12 09:50 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156687 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 12 09:51 | |
| schlock | acer-box: ah yes understood now thank you. still dodgy then. yeah my partner actually had to explain to me a few weeks back why it was gnulinux and then when i read your article on the linux foundation's mechinations for fooling people i understood how i had been hoodwinked, myself. | Oct 12 09:52 |
| activelow | instead of questioning opengl, for example, if it should be opensource, the question should have been if it should be included into gnu/linux at all | Oct 12 09:53 |
| schlock | it's funny because i was the one who got her on to linux from windows but she is the one who has been the brains ever since. | Oct 12 09:53 |
| schlock | yes, that's a good point. understood. | Oct 12 09:53 |
| acer-box | khronos group uses shithub | Oct 12 09:54 |
| schlock | i'm still learning so i'm not at any level near you lot in here. will catch up though. :) i'm old and falling apart but i have a few braincells left. | Oct 12 09:54 |
| acer-box | proprietary | Oct 12 09:54 |
| acer-box | monopoly | Oct 12 09:54 |
| acer-box | microsoft | Oct 12 09:54 |
| acer-box | but I think they now realise it and make baby steps away | Oct 12 09:54 |
| schlock | by the way i use blender, inkscape, ffmpeg for media related things. | Oct 12 09:55 |
| schlock | i'm obviously compromised because i didn't learn from the original stallman days. rather late to the game so to speak. | Oct 12 09:56 |
| acer-box | RMS still plays ball | Oct 12 09:57 |
| acer-box | schlock: will find you a video | Oct 12 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2014/01/20/goals-of-gnu/ | Oct 12 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Happy GNU Year: Richard Stallman on Meeting Goals of GNU | Techrights | Oct 12 09:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | I think that's the one | Oct 12 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | always remember the goals | Oct 12 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or the mission | Oct 12 09:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | if you don't, you end up with 'Linux' Foundation | Oct 12 09:58 |
| schestowitz[TR] | shilling Microsoft and FB | Oct 12 09:58 |
| schlock | acer-box: thanks very much appreciated. | Oct 12 09:58 |
| techrights-news | I WASN’T rejected after all! 😃 ⚓ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/i-wasn't-rejected-after-all!-%F0%9F%98%83:5 ䷉ #rossmanngroup | Oct 12 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | I WASN'T rejected after all! 😃 | Oct 12 09:58 | |
| schlock | yeah we call systemd microsuck in hour home, we're at least on to that. | Oct 12 09:59 |
| schlock | is that louis rossman? | Oct 12 09:59 |
| *schlock clicks | Oct 12 09:59 | |
| acer-box | it is | Oct 12 09:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2021/05/17/what-is-right-to-repair/ | Oct 12 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Right To Repair: What It’s About and How That Relates to Software | Techrights | Oct 12 09:59 | |
| *acer-box is now known as schestowitz-TR2 | Oct 12 10:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I didn't notice I was using a fallback nickname on this box :/ | Oct 12 10:00 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: yeah luckily i saw the quit/join so i was able to follow you. | Oct 12 10:00 |
| schlock | righto stallman vid.nu | Oct 12 10:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that RMS video I did with him in Lincoln | Oct 12 10:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I am assuming you're English 'expat' (immigrant) | Oct 12 10:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but won't inquire about personal lives | Oct 12 10:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you miss all the 'fun' like petrol shortages and freedom (for covid to spread) day | Oct 12 10:02 |
| techrights-news | #Moodle | Open Source Learning Management System (LMS) ⚓ https://odysee.com/@KeepItTechie:a/moodle-open-source-learning-management:2 ䷉ #KeepItTechie | Oct 12 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Moodle | Open Source Learning Management System (LMS) | Oct 12 10:02 | |
| gustaf | we have petrol but it's getting expensive | Oct 12 10:03 |
| techrights-news | #facebook wants you to stay dumb, misinformed, and manipulated https://presstories.com/2021/10/10/facebook-censors-a-tool-that-will-make-you-waste-less-time-on-facebook/ see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930 and https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds | Oct 12 10:04 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 presstories.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:04 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://presstories.com/2021/10/10/facebook-censors-a-tool-that-will-make-you-waste-less-time-on-facebook/ | Oct 12 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-presstories.com | Facebook censors a tool that will make you waste less time on Facebook | Oct 12 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News | Oct 12 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions | Facebook | The Guardian | Oct 12 10:04 | |
| gustaf | recent ~750mi trip was not well timed | Oct 12 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://presstories.com/2021/10/10/facebook-censors-a-tool-that-will-make-you-waste-less-time-on-facebook/ ) | Oct 12 10:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: good to live near a biug town now | Oct 12 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | less petrol needed | Oct 12 10:04 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: yeah i've lived all over now. i've been lucky in avoiding the anglosphere getting slaughtered, essentially. | Oct 12 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: I heard that in some nordic countries they try toeradicate the suburbs | Oct 12 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | making everything metro | Oct 12 10:04 |
| gustaf | news to me | Oct 12 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in .fi | Oct 12 10:05 |
| gustaf | well those crazies | Oct 12 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and it's done by removing services | Oct 12 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and making it hard to live away from high-density areas | Oct 12 10:05 |
| activelow | no, they try to prevent settlements in natural reserves with costly infrastructure required (roads, water, etc.) | Oct 12 10:05 |
| gustaf | pretty sure that's just the invisible hand of the free market | Oct 12 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: yes, I took that too into account | Oct 12 10:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but the human condition worsens | Oct 12 10:06 |
| gustaf | the smallish town where we have a vacation place (1hr from Stockholm) is grown rapidly | Oct 12 10:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | do they want a dozen tokyos in Europe? | Oct 12 10:06 |
| gustaf | new construction, wider roads | Oct 12 10:06 |
| gustaf | supposed to be a high-speed train station in the area too, we'll see how that goes | Oct 12 10:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | canada is basely settled | Oct 12 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | big country, underutilised | Oct 12 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | worse than Russia | Oct 12 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: trains can carry more people per unit pollution | Oct 12 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rails, inertia, no traffic sighs | Oct 12 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *signs | Oct 12 10:08 |
| gustaf | yeah sure | Oct 12 10:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's the acceleration that causes pollution | Oct 12 10:08 |
| techrights-news | #DNA databases are a #privacy nightmare. ⚓ https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxGamer:f/veritasium:d ䷉ #TheLinuxGamer | Oct 12 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | DNA databases are a privacy nightmare. | Oct 12 10:09 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | x https://marcellusdrilling.com/2021/10/google-censors-global-warming-deniers-kills-free-speech/ | Oct 12 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://marcellusdrilling.com/2021/10/google-censors-global-warming-deniers-kills-free-speech/ ) | Oct 12 10:09 | |
| altlink_051 | 📣 marcellusdrilling.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:09 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://marcellusdrilling.com/2021/10/google-censors-global-warming-deniers-kills-free-speech/ | Oct 12 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Google Censors Global Warming Deniers – Kills Free Speech | Marcellus Drilling News | Oct 12 10:09 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | # trying to equate freedom of speech with promoting lies or illegal action | Oct 12 10:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | x https://nypost.com/2021/10/06/frances-haugen-just-wants-more-facebook-censorship-of-conservatives/ | Oct 12 10:10 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 nypost.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:10 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nypost.com/2021/10/06/frances-haugen-just-wants-more-facebook-censorship-of-conservatives/ | Oct 12 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Frances Haugen just wants more Facebook censorship of conservatives | Oct 12 10:10 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | # tries to give equal valence to lies or opinions as to facts | Oct 12 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Frances Haugen just wants more Facebook censorship of conservatives | Oct 12 10:10 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | Murdoch publication | Oct 12 10:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | what swine | Oct 12 10:10 |
| gustaf | this town had a peak population of ~43k in the 30s, 18k now | Oct 12 10:11 |
| techrights-news | #assange #wikileaks #iceland https://www.rt.com/news/536849-assange-witness-arrested-iceland/ | Oct 12 10:11 |
| gustaf | https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramfors | Oct 12 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Key witness in FBI case against Assange held in custody to stop his ‘crime spree’ in Iceland – media — RT World News | Oct 12 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sv.wikipedia.org | Kramfors – Wikipedia | Oct 12 10:11 | |
| gustaf | classic Swedish "bruksort" (company town) | Oct 12 10:11 |
| gustaf | timber production | Oct 12 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: iirc, lots of stock' is apartments | Oct 12 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I recently saw a walkthrough video from googletube | Oct 12 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: 'production' | Oct 12 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | didn't know people could "PRODUCE" timber | Oct 12 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they mostly cut things down and then carve it | Oct 12 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | more like processing than production | Oct 12 10:12 |
| gustaf | timber as in the finished product | Oct 12 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and ikea uses lumber from places in east eurpe | Oct 12 10:13 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: thanks much for the vid link, it falls entirely within my own life practise and confirms being on the better path. | Oct 12 10:13 |
| gustaf | yah the stuff from Sweden mostly goes to pulp now | Oct 12 10:13 |
| techrights-news | "but only amongst those who don’t understand how the #Internet works" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21734036 | Oct 12 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody@joindiaspora.com: Squid Game’s success reopens debate over who should pay for rising internet traffic - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/10/squid-games-success-reopens-debate-over-who-should-pay-for-rising-internet-traffic-netflix but only amongst those who don't understand how the Internet works | Oct 12 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Squid Game’s success reopens who pays debate over rising internet traffic | Telecommunications industry | The Guardian | Oct 12 10:14 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: the lincoln video? | Oct 12 10:15 |
| schlock | gustaf: and by the way "not hot enough for you" don't sink so low dude. ;) | Oct 12 10:15 |
| gustaf | lol schlock | Oct 12 10:15 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: yes, "goals of gnu" | Oct 12 10:15 |
| schestowitz[TR] | more here: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Richard_Stallman_interviews_in_Techrights/TechBytes | Oct 12 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman interviews in Techrights/TechBytes - Techrights | Oct 12 10:15 | |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: also thank you for your hard work meeting with people and making these vids. people haven't a clue how difficult that is. i made a few tutorials and it was hell. | Oct 12 10:16 |
| schlock | great will be watching those! | Oct 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: :-) | Oct 12 10:17 |
| schlock | it's better than hearing he's a paedo from people who have never listened to the man. | Oct 12 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tell them about Gates | Oct 12 10:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | see what they say | Oct 12 10:17 |
| schlock | right?! | Oct 12 10:17 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Oct 12 10:17 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 nytimes.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:17 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Oct 12 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | Oct 12 10:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | Oct 12 10:18 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Oct 12 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Oct 12 10:18 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-and-rick-allen-jones/ | Oct 12 10:18 |
| schlock | i was going to make a meme image about: "we really do have a white man problem" showing faces of gates, epstein, soros, rockerfeller, etc. ;) | Oct 12 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones | Techrights | Oct 12 10:18 | |
| schlock | take some of the steam out of the "woke" fuckers. | Oct 12 10:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: R. Kelly | Oct 12 10:19 |
| schlock | ug. :) | Oct 12 10:19 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156673 | Oct 12 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSCAL, Open Labs, Mozilla & grooming women for Outreachy | Tux Machines | Oct 12 10:20 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | 16 year olds | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | not coding | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | just used as trophies | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by Google | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or their 'offshoot' | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | (Mozilla) | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | employer of mjg59 | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schlock | i once lived in an area where some nation of islam folks were - this guy yusuf bey was keeping little girls in his home and enslaved and getting them all pregnant. | Oct 12 10:20 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.gawker.com/5637234/gcreep-google-engineer-stalked-teens-spied-on-chats | Oct 12 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gawker.com | GCreep: Google Engineer Stalked Teens, Spied on Chats (Updated) | Oct 12 10:21 | |
| schlock | i'm not fooled by colour, political party, anything. they're all scum and blood suckers. | Oct 12 10:21 |
| schlock | anybody with that kind of power didn't get there because they're good people. | Oct 12 10:21 |
| techrights-news | Key Witness in #Assange Case Jailed in Iceland After Admitting to Lies and Ongoing Crime Spree - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/10/11/0032241 ䷉ #soylentnews #wikileaks #iceland | Oct 12 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Key Witness in Assange Case Jailed in Iceland After Admitting to Lies and Ongoing Crime Spree - SoylentNews | Oct 12 10:22 | |
| techrights-news | iophk:# missing the real first step: remove #microsoft products from production environments https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/real-responses-to-repel-cyberattacks-on-utilities/86956802 see e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Oct 12 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Real responses to repel cyberattacks on utilities, IT News, ET CIO | Oct 12 10:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Oct 12 10:23 | |
| schlock | google maps? there's a wiki page saying google acquired a business from australia. that's a complete lie, i know the people who started what is now known as google maps personally. so many lies out there. | Oct 12 10:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | # omitting lots of WSL spam | Oct 12 10:23 |
| schlock | apologies what is WSL? | Oct 12 10:23 |
| schlock | i need to learn the lingo. | Oct 12 10:23 |
| schlock | OH | Oct 12 10:24 |
| schlock | micro$suck. | Oct 12 10:24 |
| schestowitz[TR] | x https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/facebooks-oversight-board-to-meet-with-whistleblower-frances-haugen-2640490 | Oct 12 10:24 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 investing.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:24 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/facebooks-oversight-board-to-meet-with-whistleblower-frances-haugen-2640490 | Oct 12 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.investing.com | Facebook's oversight board to meet with whistleblower Frances Haugen By Reuters | Oct 12 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Facebook's oversight board to meet with whistleblower Frances Haugen By Reuters | Oct 12 10:25 | |
| schlock | bloody cloudflare. | Oct 12 10:25 |
| techrights-news | DD Is Useless: Just Use CAT Instead ⚓ https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/dd-is-useless-just-use-cat-iDD Is Useless: Just Use CAT Instead ⚓ https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/dd-is-useless-just-use-cat-instead:9 ䷉ #BrodieRobertson #gnu #linux | Oct 12 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Odysee | Oct 12 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | DD Is Useless: Just Use CAT Instead | Oct 12 10:25 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: silent takeover of www | Oct 12 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | routed via US companies | Oct 12 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lots of power to spy and censor | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the media never talks about that | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DC cancer | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or CF canceer | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | imagine if it was a Chinese company | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schlock | yes, same old thing isn't it? silently creating bottlenecks until the last moment when they switch the lights off. | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then there would be an unroar | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | US courts can get to decide what is "allowed" on the 'global' www | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schlock | yeah people and their cognitive dissonance. | Oct 12 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | happened with youtuve | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | first it was YOU | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not it is THEM | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schlock | yep. | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schlock | goolagtube | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and Gulag gets to shut down or 'hide'/'shadowban' some channels now | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for 'your safety' | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not oligarchs' | Oct 12 10:27 |
| schlock | so when everything totalitarian was going down in Australia i had a lot of australians begging for help and i told them there were ways to fight back by setting up their own servers and creating neighbourhood networks by themselves. not one of them lifted a finger to do it because they want to remain eternal children looking for somebody else to save them. | Oct 12 10:29 |
| schlock | i really don't suffer that. | Oct 12 10:29 |
| schlock | i grew up in grinding poverty and don't have time for people who had it far easier and cave in because they got a hang nail. | Oct 12 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hang nail? | Oct 12 10:30 |
| schlock | the history BEFORE we got to where we are now is riddled with failure on the part of people who ha the time and resources to fix things and take back their power. | Oct 12 10:31 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #PIA promotes a misunderstanding of the work "hacking" https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/hacking-the-world-part-2-whats-being-hacked-and-what-changed-with-covid/ | Oct 12 10:31 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 privateinternetaccess.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:31 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/hacking-the-world-part-2-whats-being-hacked-and-what-changed-with-covid/ | Oct 12 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Hacking the World – Part 2: What's Being Hacked (And What Changed with Covid) | Oct 12 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/hacking-the-world-part-2-whats-being-hacked-and-what-changed-with-covid/ ) | Oct 12 10:31 | |
| schlock | and i'm not talking about shite i read in the news. | Oct 12 10:31 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #ProPublica ☞ A Secretive Counterterrorism Team Interrogated Dozens of Citizens at the Border, Government Report Finds https://www.propublica.org/article/a-secretive-counterterrorism-team-interrogated-dozens-of-citizens-at-the-border-government-report-finds | Oct 12 10:31 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 propublica.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:31 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/a-secretive-counterterrorism-team-interrogated-dozens-of-citizens-at-the-border-government-report-finds | Oct 12 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | A Secretive Counterterrorism Team Interrogated Dozens of Citizens at the Border, Government Report Finds — ProPublica | Oct 12 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | A Secretive Counterterrorism Team Interrogated Dozens of Citizens at the Border, Government Report Finds — ProPublica | Oct 12 10:31 | |
| schlock | i'm talking about growing up with and living with people who practised behaviours that allowed for things to continue on until what is happening world wide now. | Oct 12 10:32 |
| schlock | i got to see things from the outside in and it was a blessing in disguise. | Oct 12 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | are you in aus now? | Oct 12 10:33 |
| schlock | i'm not no. | Oct 12 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it copies us | Oct 12 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like patriot act 20 years later | Oct 12 10:33 |
| schlock | i moved away from the anglosphere many years ago because i knew some bad stuff was going to happen and i didn't want to be around anglophones when it all happened. | Oct 12 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we're still here... | Oct 12 10:34 |
| schlock | the anglosphere has a special kind of conformism based on that old protestant work ethic that created a kind of psychological api so folks are easily manipulatable in certain ways. just look at how freakish the population of california has become in enforcing things for the oligarchs. | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some people drown or go under | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | california is a mix | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schlock | yeah it's going to be even more tough as the supply chain is broken and folks can't get things they are accustomed to getting. | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there is a lot of poverty in california | Oct 12 10:35 |
| gustaf | excpt there are a hell of a lot of people who speak English and are Roman Catholic but w/e | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schlock | i know newsome personally, i hate that guy so much. :) | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, LA alone has like 50k homless | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *homeless | Oct 12 10:35 |
| schlock | yeah it's disgusting. | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and those numbers are PRE-pandemic | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | i know. | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | i lived in SF for a time. | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | i used to cook food for the homeless. | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | i risked being arrested to feed people. | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | SF is expensive | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the locals there cannot keep up with rent | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | i don't have time for pepole who had more money than me and didn't lift a finger to help the less fortunate. | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they don't enjoy the "tech" 'boom' there | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | not anymore now. :) | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it boomed their estate | Oct 12 10:36 |
| schlock | yeah i watched it happen. | Oct 12 10:37 |
| gustaf | due to adtech | Oct 12 10:37 |
| gustaf | obscene profits | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so they say | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lots of that is a bubble | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | companies faking 'engagements' | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schlock | i'm glad i'm out of there. | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so other companies get scammed | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | into overpaying for ads | Oct 12 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Google, Twitter, FB MS LinkedIn.. | Oct 12 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they all fake it | Oct 12 10:38 |
| schlock | but i won't forget the homeless folks i tried to help. breaks my heart. | Oct 12 10:38 |
| *psydruid enjoys the tech going boom over here | Oct 12 10:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: nl? | Oct 12 10:38 |
| psydruid | schestowitz-TR2, just figuratively speaking contrasting with 'there' | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tech now is shite | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sorry | Oct 12 10:39 |
| psydruid | I mean implode or explode, whatever suits best | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm being blunt | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | apps | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | clown | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wtf is THAT? | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now we have one-button 'software' | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like banking 'apps' | Oct 12 10:39 |
| psydruid | so it had better go *boom* and disappear | Oct 12 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | how is that better than 20 years ago? | Oct 12 10:39 |
| psydruid | it isn't | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 32 MB Web browsers with 1024 px across | Oct 12 10:40 |
| psydruid | it's all crap | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we need to decrapify tech | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i have this 'theory' | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bear with me: | Oct 12 10:40 |
| psydruid | but people allowed it to become crap because they don't understand it well enough | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the oligarchs and their monopolies want us less empowered | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so they push time-wasting to us | Oct 12 10:40 |
| psydruid | companies will try to get away with it | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "liking", scrolling, "apps" | Oct 12 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | meanwhile, Bloomberg terminals are 4 or 6 screens | Oct 12 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they take away all the capital | Oct 12 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with real computing | Oct 12 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and treat the typical youngesters like a click farm | Oct 12 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it generallybenefits them when all computer users are turned into useds | Oct 12 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with FB accounts, FBInstagram, YouTube | Oct 12 10:42 |
| psydruid | the youngsters, even those working at 'big tech' don't understand they are being farmed | Oct 12 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the younger people swallow it up | Oct 12 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and are shamed in schools if they don't play ball | Oct 12 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I use 7 screens at the moment | Oct 12 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | most are 1920px across | Oct 12 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I could not do this on a 'phone | Oct 12 10:42 |
| psydruid | I have my laptop and 2 screens just a few metres away from me | Oct 12 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have a professor/lecturer mate with does email over phone | Oct 12 10:43 |
| psydruid | this is another one | Oct 12 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I tell him, go home, do it properly there... | Oct 12 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he had a quad setup at work, 4-headed | Oct 12 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but he doesn't know how to use it, that runs on WIndows | Oct 12 10:43 |
| schlock | i have my box and a monitor, haha. i'm small beans. :) | Oct 12 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | depends on your tasks | Oct 12 10:44 |
| psydruid | used screens are cheap nowadays :) | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schlock | but i use all my awesome tags nd tmux and whatever | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | very cheap | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schlock | psydruid: yeah i'm broke man. :D | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | my 24 incher is in good condition, cost me 29 pounds | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schlock | i am literally couch surfing. | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a friend gave me a larger one for free | Oct 12 10:44 |
| schlock | all of my hardware is donated. | Oct 12 10:45 |
| schlock | a mate bought me a laptop bless him. | Oct 12 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | cool | Oct 12 10:45 |
| psydruid | schlock, I was a homeless person with a job back in Ireland after getting kicked out of my apartment because someone else was willing to pay even more :) | Oct 12 10:46 |
| schlock | psydruid: yep i been homeless now for over 10 years after illness destroyed my life. | Oct 12 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | NHS reduces the chance of it happening | Oct 12 10:46 |
| schlock | somebody on irc i met said i could come live with them and ever since it's been insane. | Oct 12 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but Tories wreck it | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schlock | i'm lucky though, didn't end up on the street. | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schlock | once you're there it's the end. | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | usually family is first fallback | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schlock | they're all dead/alienated for various reasons not of my doing. | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: unless the gov. has some programmes | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: i have never used one. | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schlock | i don't trust them for shite. | Oct 12 10:47 |
| schlock | the one time i did try, the ONLY time, i ended up being told i had to get finger printed. no. | Oct 12 10:48 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch ☞ Awakening: #MartinLutherKing and the Poor People's Campaign https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/11/awakening-martin-luther-king-and-the-poor-peoples-campaign/ | Oct 12 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Awakening: Martin Luther King and the Poor People's Campaign - CounterPunch.org | Oct 12 10:48 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: how would biometrics help? | Oct 12 10:48 |
| schlock | i've had a series of miracles keep me from being homeless. | Oct 12 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | seems like a pretext to bio-catalogue "plebs" | Oct 12 10:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they are desperate | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | likely to surrender to anything | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: biometrics just sounds like eugenicist control to me. | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | without them being listed to by human rights groups | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they lack access | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schlock | thing is no group has ever had my literal well-being at heart. | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schlock | the churches want you to convert. | Oct 12 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they don't do eugenicist stuff anymore | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now it's class based | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so you need another world | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schlock | the government programmes want you to submit and become fully documented. | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | femicide was one in mexico | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when you drive the poor out of life it's a class-based system | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but we lack a word for it | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | killing the "weak" | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Germany killed the disabled first | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | well before death camps | Oct 12 10:50 |
| schlock | i'm sorry i'm going to disagree with you on "they don't do eugenicist stuff anymore". | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | British gov. not doing enough re COVID | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and that kills "unproductive" people | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "let the bodies pile up high" | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schlock | the black women in my neighbourhood were all sterilised illegally when they ended up in jail. | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | don't forget that | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he's still our head of state | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "let the bodies pile up high" | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Stalinism | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Boris | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that name alone is a warning | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schlock | and they were sterilised recently, not 100 years ago or 50 or even 20. | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | family from Lithuania area IIRC | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or estonia | Oct 12 10:51 |
| schlock | Boris, AKA Alexander, has a eugenicist father. wrote a book on eugenicist ideas in fact. | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hence the blode hair of Jo Johnson and 'Boris' | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schlock | i don't call him boris. | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not even his real name | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schlock | i call him alexander. | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schlock | he's not a chummy fellow - he's not human. | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I did too | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schlock | he's not one of us. | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it confuses people | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there are many Alex Jonhnsons | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schlock | yeah we can call him what he really is in here at least. :) | Oct 12 10:52 |
| schlock | yeah he's "alexander" haha. | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I call him Borisnaro | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | since his "Freedom Day" plan | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schlock | i noticed. :D | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so what if 300k old people die | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | good write-off for Aviva et al | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nothing to pay | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schlock | yep. | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "man up, people" | Oct 12 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Bolsonaro came from the army | Oct 12 10:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a brutal army | Oct 12 10:54 |
| techrights-news | <li> | Oct 12 10:54 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TheNation ☞ #Pandemic Solidarity Transformed Our Society. Now We Need It Again. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-pandemic-solidarity/ | Oct 12 10:55 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 thenation.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Pandemic Solidarity Transformed Our Society. Now We Need It Again. | The Nation | Oct 12 10:55 | |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-pandemic-solidarity/ | Oct 12 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Pandemic Solidarity Transformed Our Society. Now We Need It Again. | The Nation | Oct 12 10:55 | |
| schlock | stanley johnson wrote: life without birth. fucking transhumanist scum. | Oct 12 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | whenever I see the word "transhumanist" I go oh oh | Oct 12 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | usually the k00ky thing | Oct 12 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like the stuff Corbet panders to | Oct 12 10:55 |
| schlock | hey i understand but it's very real. so the question is do you think that transhumanism isn't a real thing? | Oct 12 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when I see trans I think transport of transfats | Oct 12 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: doesn't matter, the term is unhelpful | Oct 12 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even "deep state" is a toxic term now | Oct 12 10:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it came to mean "those against Trump" | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schlock | i see what you mean, co-opted terms. | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "Fake news" also | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because Trump hijacked those terms | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schlock | yeah, a lot of co-opting has happened. | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schlock | but that goes way back sadly. | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and k00ks hijack other terms, which are no longer usable | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schlock | invalid -> handicapped -> disabled -> whatever other PC term because Maoist practises in the current era. | Oct 12 10:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "special" | Oct 12 10:58 |
| schlock | i respect where you're coming from and i feel the same way because i've seen it myself BUT when i'm around folks who are on the same page i rather expect you know where i'm coming from. :) | Oct 12 10:58 |
| schlock | and i sure as hell am not coming from lizard territory. | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZ1R-Xylj4 | Oct 12 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners (archived mirrored vid) - YouTube | Oct 12 10:59 | |
| schlock | words still have meaning. | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schlock | like "woman". | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | skip to 1:50 | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "physically-challenged" | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schlock | i've heard carlin repeated over and over for decades thanks. :D | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | differently-abled | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schlock | and i've lived that shite as well. | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schlock | been there done that! | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | as if they can give people tlimbs back | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schlock | i'm over it! | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schestowitz[TR] | by moving around words | Oct 12 10:59 |
| schlock | :D | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | IBM says don't say master | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they still say master | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schlock | python -> remove master/slave | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and they do evil things, too | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schlock | fucking freaks. | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schlock | when you remove the language you remove people's ability to identify. | Oct 12 11:00 |
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| schlock | DOUBLE PLUS BAD | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schlock | no way. | Oct 12 11:00 |
| schlock | i hold onto my language tooth and nail. | Oct 12 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | No, it's doubleplusungood. | Oct 12 11:01 |
| schlock | i don't watch netflix because i guard my mind jealously. | Oct 12 11:01 |
| techrights-news | "Mixed": a mixed of government propaganda (lies) and bad reality https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/11/a-mixed-jobs-report/ | Oct 12 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Mixed Jobs Report - CounterPunch.org | Oct 12 11:01 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #assange #wikileaks ☞ #DanielEllsberg On The #CIA Plan To Kidnap And Possibly Kill Julian Assange, The End Of The Afghanistan Occupation, And The Ongoing Us Drone War https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/11/daniel-ellsberg-on-the-cia-plan-to-kidnap-and-possibly-kill-julian-assange-the-end-of-the-afghanistan-occupation-and-the-ongoing-us-drone-war/ | Oct 12 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Daniel Ellsberg On The CIA Plan To Kidnap And Possibly Kill Julian Assange, The End Of The Afghanistan Occupation, And The Ongoing Us Drone War - CounterPunch.org | Oct 12 11:02 | |
| schlock | funny thing is i haven't found stanley johnson's book "life without birth" anywhere online. | Oct 12 11:02 |
| schlock | not even a torrent yet. | Oct 12 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, There is no more "firefox" executable with Firefox 93, in the Task Monitor. | Oct 12 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: Torvalds joked about it months ago | Oct 12 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | They changed it to "GeckoMain". | Oct 12 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because he's getting some sub-perfect patches | Oct 12 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: I'm sure Gecko Slaves were relieves | Oct 12 11:03 |
| schlock | i sure hope i can get rid of firefox for something usable soon before i have to update to the newest spy version. | Oct 12 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | The Flatpak version is using Bubblewrap on top of the regular browser sandbox. | Oct 12 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the gecko colony will be eaten by jungle dwellers regardless | Oct 12 11:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *relived | Oct 12 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *relieved | Oct 12 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: they call it Web | Oct 12 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and Supervisor and stuff | Oct 12 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's very confusing | Oct 12 11:04 |
| schlock | MinceR: mentioned some but the only feasible one seemed to be qutebrowser until i was educated it dials home to M$. | Oct 12 11:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and to some people it can make it seem like Firefox takes a lot less resources than it actually does | Oct 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I remember that one browser was one process | Oct 12 11:05 |
| schlock | i see i got ranty again so i'll calm down. | Oct 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the same happens with blink/chromium-based shites | Oct 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's processes all over the place | Oct 12 11:05 |
| activelow | schlock: nothing available anymore. for a decade at least. | Oct 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: in Debian 10 at least | Oct 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | qutebrowser is packaged tyo phone Microsoft | Oct 12 11:06 |
| activelow | anyone claiming their browser was any different or clean (including tor-browser), is lying | Oct 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | through ddg | Oct 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and it's very hard to change that | Oct 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I tried for ages to no avail | Oct 12 11:06 |
| schlock | activelow: thanks - good to know now at least instead of wasting time. | Oct 12 11:06 |
| schlock | activelow: sonds like i need to get on my iptables for outgoing crap perhaps? | Oct 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: here's a task for you(for fun) | Oct 12 11:07 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: yeah i can never go back to debian again so that's out. | Oct 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | check how many open files netsurf uses | Oct 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then compare to falkon and firefox | Oct 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I did some videos and posts about it, but IIRC Firefox can be like 20,000-30,000 open files | Oct 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for netsurf it's under 100 iirc | Oct 12 11:08 |
| schlock | is that why firefox is such a memory hog? | Oct 12 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so-called 'web' so-called 'browsers' are spawning crap all over the place | Oct 12 11:08 |
| schlock | yep. | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | TWO tabs open: | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | roy@vonick:~$ lsof | grep firefox | wc -l | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 37630 | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | That's 20,000 open files per tab | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schlock | fifteen firefox "containers" | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schlock | each 2gb | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | zero tabs, only empty one open: | Oct 12 11:09 |
| schlock | i'm only slightly exaggerating. | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | roy@vonick:~$ lsof | grep firefox | wc -l | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 34233 | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | woo! 3,000 less | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schlock | hah | Oct 12 11:10 |
| activelow | schestowitz-TR2: granted, i do like netsurf, however it isn't what some might expect from a web browser to navigate online banking, any multimedia, whatever | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | close two tabs | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | kill off 3000 open files | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | 'only' 34,000 left | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I'm so relived | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | *relieved | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schlock | hell i should try netsurf for what its worth i reckon. | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it's getting worse as each release comes out | Oct 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I want to try some 2001 distro and see what a browser opened back then | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or firefox in 2004 | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schlock | i loved firefox then. was light and configurable up the wazoo. | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | activelow: go to the bank | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it might even give some locals jobs, too | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | they work for YOU | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | or are they? | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schlock | cash fridays. | Oct 12 11:11 |
| schlock | righto here goes netsurf dive. | Oct 12 11:12 |
| activelow | https://dpaste.com/326ELBA5L | Oct 12 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dpaste: netsurf-anonymous.patch | Oct 12 11:12 | |
| schlock | activelow: hey do i need to instal that patch then? | Oct 12 11:13 |
| schlock | looks like a yes. | Oct 12 11:13 |
| activelow | schlock: not necessarily, it's only a reminder, to be aware. | Oct 12 11:13 |
| schlock | damn you elite folks. :D i'll ask my partner for help hopefully she knows, i'm lost htere. | Oct 12 11:14 |
| schlock | activelow: hey, that's good imho. | Oct 12 11:14 |
| schlock | when you get tired and run down good practise goes out the window. | Oct 12 11:14 |
| schlock | aaaah, i'll miss my umatrix/ublockorigin here. hmm | Oct 12 11:17 |
| techrights-news | "EXCLUSIVE: Capcom allows #Facebook to Deface & Modify Resident Evil 4 for Oculus VR Remake " https://happywarrior.substack.com/p/re4vr | Oct 12 11:17 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 substack.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 11:17 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://happywarrior.substack.com/p/re4vr | Oct 12 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-happywarrior.substack.com | EXCLUSIVE: Capcom allows Facebook to Deface Resident Evil 4 in VR Remake for Oculus - by Peter "The Pete" Pischke 😎 - The Happy Warrior | Oct 12 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | EXCLUSIVE: Capcom allows Facebook to Deface Resident Evil 4 in VR Remake for Oculus - by Peter "The Pete" Pischke 😎 - The Happy Warrior | Oct 12 11:17 | |
| techrights-news | #microsoft #widows TCO https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=da&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/datatilsynet-mindst-31-danske-virksomheder-ramt-ransomware-2021-1093434 Windows kills. http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ | Oct 12 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-version2-dk.translate.goog | Datatilsynet: Mindst 31 danske virksomheder ramt af ransomware i 2021 | Version2 | Oct 12 11:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, playing around with MTU settings. | Oct 12 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights | Oct 12 11:18 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▂▆▃▃▄▅▆▆▄▅▅▃▇▅▅▅▃▅▇▆▄▅▃▄▅▆▆▆▅▃▄▁ avg(k/sec) 24.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▂▅▄▁▁▅▇▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▃▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 7.21▕ swarm size (avg): 261.00 ⟲ | Oct 12 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | Got good results by setting MTU to 1420 on my wifi and VPN interfaces. | Oct 12 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | Linux defaults to 1500 like Windows does. Don't know why I forgot to check. | Oct 12 11:18 |
| techrights-news | "The Open 3D Engine — being developed by The #LinuxFoundation — was not available for Linux. It was available for #Microsoft #Windows only." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-linux-foundations-3d-game-engine http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation | Oct 12 11:19 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 substack.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 11:19 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-linux-foundations-3d-game-engine | Oct 12 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | The Linux Foundation's 3D Game engine... still doesn't support Linux - by Bryan Lunduke - The Lunduke Journal of Technology | Oct 12 11:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Oct 12 11:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | The Linux Foundation's 3D Game engine... still doesn't support Linux - by Bryan Lunduke - The Lunduke Journal of Technology | Oct 12 11:19 | |
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| schlock | heh, that headline is interesting. | Oct 12 11:19 |
| techrights-news | "Every financial barrier to factual information impedes the development of thought." https://social.coop/@theblockchainsocialist/107084336417070395 | Oct 12 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Blockchain Socialist ⬛🟥⬛: "RT @NathanJRobinson@twitter.com Nor should she. …" - social.coop | Oct 12 11:20 | |
| techrights-news | "If governments of the world realised (as I've often suggested) that they should be funding critical digital #FOSS infrastructure, instead of OAuth run by mega corporations, slurping our data with their surveillance capitalism bizmodels" https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107078227231145182 | Oct 12 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Please donate to Mozilla Corporation, their CEO i…" - Aral’s Mastodon | Oct 12 11:20 | |
| techrights-news | "If governments of the world realised (as I've often suggested) that they should be funding critical digital #FOSS infrastructure, instead of OAuth run by mega corporations, slurping our data with their surveillance capitalism bizmodels" https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107086350734889579 | Oct 12 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "If governments of the world realised (as I've oft…" - Mastodon - NZOSS | Oct 12 11:22 | |
| techrights-news | "My employer, a tertiary academic institution, has short-sightedly thrown its chips in with Microsoft. To request leave via the institution's system, I have to use a Microsoft Live login. I consider it an incredible insult that my employer requires me to accept" https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107086329464854079 | Oct 12 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "My employer, a tertiary academic institution, has…" - Mastodon - NZOSS | Oct 12 11:22 | |
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| techrights-news | "Please donate to Mozilla Corporation, their CEO is trying to scrape by on just a little over $3,000,000/year. I’m sure you can all relate to how hard that can be so, please, dig deep this giving season." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107078227231145182 #mozilla #firefox http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ | Oct 12 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Today’s Mozilla Management | Techrights | Oct 12 11:23 | |
| techrights-news | "Once Tor's MetricsPort gets unix socket support I'll add support for it to relayor." https://mastodon.social/@nusenu/107078366620442457 | Oct 12 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | nusenu: "Once Tor's MetricsPort gets unix socket support I…" - Mastodon | Oct 12 11:24 | |
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| techrights-news | #deletegithub https://mastodon.social/@nusenu/107078024067479618 #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #ibm #ansible http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Oct 12 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | nusenu: "I've just released ansible relayor v21.1.0 for to…" - Mastodon | Oct 12 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Oct 12 11:25 | |
| schlock | this netsurf is wonderfully light. | Oct 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | does not work with hostile sites | Oct 12 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i see that as a plus | Oct 12 11:33 |
| schlock | same. | Oct 12 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you like me, OK | Oct 12 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you don't like me, go AWAY | Oct 12 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (to sites that are treating visits like subjects to be lied to) | Oct 12 11:34 |
| schlock | yep | Oct 12 11:34 |
| schlock | i said quite some years ago that javascript was an intentional destruction of the internet. "for your good" "for your ease of use" - no it's just another social credit system of compliance. | Oct 12 11:36 |
| schlock | i can't have a bank account so i'm locked out of society. | Oct 12 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | move to gemini | Oct 12 11:37 |
| schlock | everything is mostly phone apps now - digital currency. | Oct 12 11:37 |
| schlock | yeah don't worry i will do but as always it takes time to adjust and whatot and i'm already dealing with a lot on my plate. :) | Oct 12 11:37 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ | Oct 12 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office ‘Force’ EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? | Oct 12 11:37 | |
| schlock | dear headline: DUH | Oct 12 11:38 |
| schlock | what's a smart spy for? | Oct 12 11:38 |
| schlock | schestowitz[TR]: oh whoops that wasn't meant to be a direct attack on you. :D | Oct 12 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I know | Oct 12 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but those things still need to be documented | Oct 12 11:39 |
| schlock | i'm literally a tinderbox after literal decades of dealing with complicity and cognitive dissonance. | Oct 12 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and the officials need to be confronted | Oct 12 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which is what I do when it is possible at a personal capacity | Oct 12 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's still possible to pay with cash in most places | Oct 12 11:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | people protest | Oct 12 11:39 |
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| schlock | schestowitz[TR]: no i understand what you're talking about and i understand why headlines are worded as such due to the fact that most people won't let things through to the braincells unless you get around certain "security features" put in place by mainstream media and other institutions. | Oct 12 11:40 |
| schlock | yeah but i still can't have a bank account. | Oct 12 11:40 |
| schlock | so social credit has been working for a very long time. | Oct 12 11:40 |
| schlock | so i can't get paid to do work remotely. | Oct 12 11:41 |
| schlock | it means cleaning toilets. | Oct 12 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i see... | Oct 12 11:41 |
| schlock | as slave labour i really do object. :) | Oct 12 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | IBM objects to the word | Oct 12 11:41 |
| schlock | they can end up in the gas ovens for all i care. | Oct 12 11:41 |
| schlock | the ones they fed. | Oct 12 11:42 |
| schestowitz[TR] | IBM is all about the ethics http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ | Oct 12 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBM’s Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights | Oct 12 11:42 | |
| schlock | in fact the populace should have erradicated them directly after the war. | Oct 12 11:42 |
| schlock | and every other complicit person/business. | Oct 12 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | who? | Oct 12 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | GM and Ford are still around | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | IBM also | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schlock | all of them. | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schlock | every single one. | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and now it rebrands as "woke" | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schlock | ofcourse it does. | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: what them? | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: you just named a few of "them". | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schlock | i'm not going to give you a whole list - isn't it obvious at this point? | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no | Oct 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | different people see the issues differently | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I see it as class issue | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schlock | prescott bush was caught doing business with nazi germany during wwii - for example - and his son and grand son became presidents of america - that alone is massive. | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so you need to be clearer | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schlock | ah right. | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks for clarifying | Oct 12 11:45 |
| schlock | i only have so much energy and time so please bear with me. | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many of the augenicists are still around | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schlock | i've been ill for quite some time. | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but they upped their act and language | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schlock | i have a short temper. | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so the agenda is still there | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the eugenics isn't genics | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "eu" =good | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schlock | i know that's why i speak of the eugencists all the time. | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but genics became "poor" | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "stupid" | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "retarded" | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz[TR] | techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/ | Oct 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or, "the weak" | Oct 12 11:47 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.waterstones.com/book/war-against-the-weak/edwin-black/9781568583211 | Oct 12 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.waterstones.com/book/war-against-the-weak/edwin-black/9781568583211 ) | Oct 12 11:47 | |
| schlock | that will be a great links to read (your site) thanks. | Oct 12 11:47 |
| schlock | damn 403. | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have the full book as PDF | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | about 1500 pages iirc | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.amazon.co.uk/War-Against-Weak-Eugenics-Americas/dp/0914153293 | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schlock | holy crap i haven't the time sadly - that's something ild love to read. | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | amazon :/ | Oct 12 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race-Expanded Edition : Black, Edwin: Amazon.co.uk: Books | Oct 12 11:48 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we posted many portions of that book in techrights | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | mostly the bits about IBM | Oct 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism | Oct 12 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Oct 12 11:49 | |
| schlock | since you see things as class then i am of the lowest class - the class that was kept around as cannon fodder and factory fodder - the middle classes are delusional about "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" when the whole system is rigged in the first place. | Oct 12 11:49 |
| schlock | the system needs the poor and the homeless and fodder to run. | Oct 12 11:49 |
| techrights-news | Links 12/10/2021: Jörg Schilling Passes Away, Tor Browser 11.0a8 • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/jorg-schilling-passes-away/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/jorg-schilling-passes-away/ | Oct 12 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/10/2021: Jörg Schilling Passes Away, Tor Browser 11.0a8 | Techrights | Oct 12 11:49 | |
| schlock | the middle classes have grown up on the backs of the lowers. | Oct 12 11:49 |
| techrights-news | #Security , FUD, and #ProprietarySoftware • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156688 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security, FUD, and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Oct 12 11:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: the middle too is shrinking | Oct 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's cannibalism | Oct 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or bottom-feeding | Oct 12 11:50 |
| schlock | okay getting a copy just to have it but i am turning into a donkey carrying books which is disappointing. | Oct 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the capital gets amassed by few people | Oct 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and that also begets political control | Oct 12 11:50 |
| schlock | schestowitz-TR2: yeah the oligarchs are wiping out everybody below them. | Oct 12 11:50 |
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| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156689 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 12 11:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | schlock: you can read portions of it | Oct 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or find the file-shared book on the Web | Oct 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's not too hard | Oct 12 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I doubt he'd oppose | Oct 12 11:52 |
| schlock | getting a copy now. :) | Oct 12 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/edwin-black-2021/ | Oct 12 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Interview With Edwin Black: IBM Has Never Apologised, Instead It Hid Its Role in Nazi Germany | Techrights | Oct 12 11:52 | |
| schlock | of the war gasint th e weak | Oct 12 11:52 |
| schlock | eh | Oct 12 11:52 |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/ibm-denial/ | Oct 12 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Edwin Black Explains Why IBM Was the Worst and the Only One to Obstruct His Research (Into IBM’s Dark Past) | Techrights | Oct 12 11:52 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | video/ogg/webmb http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Oct 12 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Oct 12 11:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bbiab | Oct 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | need to post some articles now | Oct 12 11:53 |
| schlock | i'm grateful to those of edwin black's ilk - so many people tried to warn us and other times it was the oligarchs themselves who published what they were up to in plain sight such as edward bernays and carroll quigley. | Oct 12 11:53 |
| schlock | all good at least somebody is being productive around here. :D | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he does gather a lot of evidence | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and references to books and old manuscripts at the end | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | those are suppressed | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schlock | so much is. | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you need to travel to the remaining physical copies | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like the eugenics literature | Oct 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like british torture of kanyans | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they destroyed a lot of records | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schlock | yeah the guy who runs this site has spoken a lot about it: technocracy.news/ | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | blaming water damage etc. | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schlock | https://www.technocracy.news/ | Oct 12 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technocracy.news | Technocracy News & Trends | Oct 12 11:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | very funny excuses | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the "dog ate my homework" kind | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but from Number 10 | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schlock | he's the son of a woman sterilised by her parents because they were technocracists. | Oct 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the British Bulldog excuses | Oct 12 11:56 |
| schlock | he was adopted by her later in life after she got away from her parents. | Oct 12 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | sterilised: | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JcYEXeK0g8 | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schlock | and his mum was sterilised because her brother had been born with an umbilical cord around his neck choking off the oxygen and all the technocrats and the doctor thought it was genetic error so they sterilised the sister. | Oct 12 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chapter 1 | The Eugenics Crusade - YouTube | Oct 12 11:57 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | local copy: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Chapter-1-The-Eugenics-Crusade.mp4?_=1 | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | it was all the rage back then | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | got a dumb kid | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | sterilise them | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | for society's "better good" | Oct 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that was before ww2 | Oct 12 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | eugenics: made in USA | Oct 12 11:58 |
| schlock | it's funny because after i escaped america the movie shown on the plane was an old eugenics movie. how prescient. | Oct 12 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the germany either copied or made "parallel discoveries" | Oct 12 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *germans | Oct 12 11:58 |
| schlock | americans were all about eugenics and hitler loved that stuff. | Oct 12 11:58 |
| schlock | i blame the americans for being the root of so many world problems. | Oct 12 11:59 |
| schlock | that fucking transhumanism "transwomen are women" crap came from there. | Oct 12 11:59 |
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| schlock | anybody willing to believe men are women - my trust right out the window we can have any sane dialogue. | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | those are a distraction | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | those people are not the cause of problems | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | don't scapegoat them | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schlock | i'm not scapegoating anybody so don't reframe me. | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but the oligarchs trot this out as a distraction from real issues | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 0.01% or less of the poulation is a proble, | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schlock | i'm well aware of that but there's a line i draw. | Oct 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not trans, but oligarchs | Oct 12 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the right-wing media slant of the oligarchs scapegoated gays | Oct 12 12:01 |
| schlock | the thing is that you haven't seen what i have, you haven't endured what i have. | Oct 12 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not it does the same with trans and "brexit" | Oct 12 12:01 |
| schlock | okay you think i'm being like that and the problem is you're wrong there but you don't know who i am hence you can only see me through a certain paradigm. | Oct 12 12:02 |
| schlock | you misunderstand but in time you'll see what i'm getting at. | Oct 12 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe a misinterpretation, yes | Oct 12 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | happens a lot over text-only chat | Oct 12 12:02 |
| schlock | yes exactly. | Oct 12 12:02 |
| schlock | i'm not some religious zealot or political cretin who is about bashing folks - i know exactly what's happening with all of the distractions - the point i was tring to make is that i have actually met folks who tried to bully me into that stuff and accepting lies as truth and then trying to get me to perpetuate that - it's part of massive psychological trick and i refuse to be a part of it. | Oct 12 12:03 |
| schlock | it's why there is the same "inclusive" ToC everywhere. | Oct 12 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we think it helps the powerful | Oct 12 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it gives disproportionate power t o tyrants | Oct 12 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you can never file a CoC complaint about IBM for example | Oct 12 12:05 |
| schlock | it's like what went down in maoist china with turning the whole populace into a slavish, thoughtless force willing to do anything based on lies and shaming and intimdation. | Oct 12 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you would be laughed out | Oct 12 12:05 |
| schlock | yep, it's all part of the current paradigm. | Oct 12 12:05 |
| schlock | it's all intentional, just like any corruption. | Oct 12 12:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | anyway, we wrote about those things many times | Oct 12 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I will repost some Mozilla articles now | Oct 12 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Mozilla is killed by this nonsense | Oct 12 12:06 |
| schlock | anybody saying it's "incompetence" is giving cover to criminality - people don't realise by short-circuiting their critical thinking and calling it "incompetence" they're only giving intentional criminality an excuse to continue. | Oct 12 12:06 |
| schlock | i might be the janitor but i'm not stupid. :) | Oct 12 12:06 |
| *schlock is now known as the_janitor | Oct 12 12:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some people equate salary with wisdom | Oct 12 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | though the world's most celever people work in unis | Oct 12 12:07 |
| the_janitor | a lot of people do. look at the folks who love steve jobs. heh | Oct 12 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with relatively meager salaries | Oct 12 12:07 |
| *activelow needs a reboot | Oct 12 12:09 | |
| techrights-news | #microsoft is still #googlebombing the #linux brand to promote #vista11 #malware while 'Linux' Foundation stands by, smiling foolishly. | Oct 12 12:09 |
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| the_janitor | infuriating. | Oct 12 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, but old news in a sense | Oct 12 12:10 |
| the_janitor | yep. | Oct 12 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this is how they attack us | Oct 12 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Windows is Linux | Oct 12 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Linux is WIndows | Oct 12 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you don't know what's waht | Oct 12 12:11 |
| the_janitor | men are women | Oct 12 12:11 |
| the_janitor | it's all over. | Oct 12 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the trademark is not being enforced | Oct 12 12:11 |
| the_janitor | it's the same tactics everywhere. | Oct 12 12:11 |
| the_janitor | in every aspect of life. | Oct 12 12:11 |
| the_janitor | back in the 90's i lived in a town that had 3 electronics shops. they were major corporate ones, can't remember the names now. anyways they sold completely different elecronics from each other. all very expensive stuff, not one shop had what the other 2 had in order to have any price competitiveness. | Oct 12 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I don't agree that product names and genders are the same | Oct 12 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | The Linux situation is one of certain nature | Oct 12 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | being a free software project | Oct 12 12:13 |
| the_janitor | you don't have to but that's what i've seen happen, same patterns everywhere in every aspect of life. | Oct 12 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they already removed the GNU | Oct 12 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so people don't talk about the system's freedom | Oct 12 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they focus only on brands | Oct 12 12:13 |
| the_janitor | classic example with the electronics shops of false scarcity - they were owned all by the same company with no genuine competitiveness and this was in the 90's. | Oct 12 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rc components | Oct 12 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the upside is, there are extensive visual catalogues | Oct 12 12:14 |
| the_janitor | so it's all been happening for a long time in various ways. | Oct 12 12:14 |
| the_janitor | science is funded by oligarchs and is fully corrupted - same patterns. | Oct 12 12:14 |
| the_janitor | but cognitive dissoance that somewhere it's not and it's okay to believe whatever said by whomever. | Oct 12 12:15 |
| the_janitor | no awareness of "the long con" | Oct 12 12:15 |
| the_janitor | people need more street smarts - they'd fall for things a hell of a lot less. | Oct 12 12:15 |
| the_janitor | like the [gnu]linux trick. | Oct 12 12:16 |
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| the_janitor | https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fy5mCyRCl1k | Oct 12 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Oct 12 12:18 | |
| the_janitor | this guy had some great points about what was happening at the time but because of how he framed it folks didn't want to know - it doesn't matter how accurate and full of truth when folks don't like the framing. | Oct 12 12:19 |
| the_janitor | funny how that works. :) | Oct 12 12:19 |
| the_janitor | it's an interesting war: the masses have allowed to happen, just like spam mail, what is coming down now. how do we educate them but also hold back the criminal activities of the globalists? | Oct 12 12:20 |
| the_janitor | oligarchs if you will. | Oct 12 12:21 |
| the_janitor | there's a massive psychological manipulation component literally underwriting all of this. | Oct 12 12:21 |
| GNUmoon2 | schestowitz: "some people equate salary with wisdom". Sadly most people believe wealth / salary are equal to merit / human worth thanks to 100's of years of propaganda. | Oct 12 12:22 |
| the_janitor | amen. | Oct 12 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | true | Oct 12 12:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even dumber people believe that | Oct 12 12:24 |
| techrights-news | Firefox 93 Disables Triple DES and Doesn’t Mention #NSA Backdoors. Windows 11 Continues Degrading VPNs With It If They Use the Native APIs. • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/windows-nsa/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/windows-nsa/ | Oct 12 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox 93 Disables Triple DES and Doesn’t Mention NSA Backdoors. Windows 11 Continues Degrading VPNs With It If They Use the Native APIs. | Techrights | Oct 12 12:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like saying how good a vehicle is based on its net weight | Oct 12 12:25 |
| GNUmoon2 | If you are poor, it's your own fault because you are lazy, dumb or just not a good person. | Oct 12 12:25 |
| the_janitor | yep, i've been told that my entire life. | Oct 12 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | smart enopugh people know life is temporary | Oct 12 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and hoarding lots of money can be pointless | Oct 12 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you need not hoard more than you can feasibly use to keep happy | Oct 12 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and happiness comes from freedom partly | Oct 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not being stressed or bossed | Oct 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | stress kills easrly | Oct 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | apropos steve jobs | Oct 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or paul allen | Oct 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I hope they enjoy their money 'down under' | Oct 12 12:26 |
| activelow | apropos DES, triple or none... it is a lie this wasn't secure; block ciphers are weakened by their block mode of operation and block key generation | Oct 12 12:29 |
| activelow | or, to rephrase this, i would feel brave enough to encrypt with xor, if the block mode of operation and block key hashing is strong | Oct 12 12:29 |
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| activelow | insofar, all the "news" RC4 or DES or whatever where weak, it is a distraction from the real issues | Oct 12 12:30 |
| GNUmoon2 | schestowitz: "stress kills easily" just been heard about that, stress causes increased expression in genes related to inflammation. Leading to increased prevalence of heart attacks, cancer, etc. | Oct 12 12:31 |
| activelow | were | Oct 12 12:31 |
| techrights-news | Developer of the “Better” App, Which Provides a Content Blocker for Safari, Considers Quitting Due to #Apple ’s Plans to Invade Users’ #Privacy With #CSAM Scanner. • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/apple-csam-scanner/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/apple-csam-scanner/ | Oct 12 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Developer of the “Better” App, Which Provides a Content Blocker for Safari, Considers Quitting Due to Apple’s Plans to Invade Users’ Privacy With “CSAM” Scanner. | Techrights | Oct 12 12:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | GNUmoon2: weakens the immune syetem | Oct 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lesser stressed people get ill less frequently | Oct 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but you could argue that more stressed people also eat less healthily | Oct 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because of status | Oct 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but if you isolate that as a factor | Oct 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you may still find that stressed people develop health issues | Oct 12 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | their money cannot always compensate for it (medical treatments|) | Oct 12 12:35 |
| GNUmoon2 | yep. It's normal for short periods during fight-or-flight responses. However, it's toxic if someone is in constant stress. | Oct 12 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I found that stress changes gut patterns | Oct 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think it's an evolutionary defend system | Oct 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or adrenaline rushes, rage.. | Oct 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're only useful temporarily | Oct 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm told Steve Jobs, for example, had lots of rage and stress | Oct 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Recently the media reported that Gates had fainted | Oct 12 12:37 |
| GNUmoon2 | This looks interesting, also has references to other research. https://www.pnas.org/content/110/41/16574 | Oct 12 12:37 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 pnas.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 12:37 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pnas.org/content/110/41/16574 | Oct 12 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pnas.org | Social stress up-regulates inflammatory gene expression in the leukocyte transcriptome via β-adrenergic induction of myelopoiesis | PNAS | Oct 12 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Social stress up-regulates inflammatory gene expression in the leukocyte transcriptome via β-adrenergic induction of myelopoiesis | PNAS | Oct 12 12:37 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when people in the media reported about his Epstein connections | Oct 12 12:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | I just use those two examples | Oct 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as we were discussing related areas | Oct 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | not because those two sociopaths are gods or anything | Oct 12 12:37 |
| the_janitor | all this talk about stress and gut and immune systems - i can attest to it all personally. my life of abject poverty is proof positive that stress destroys and kills. | Oct 12 12:40 |
| GNUmoon2 | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5641835/ | Oct 12 12:40 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 nih.gov is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 12:40 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5641835/ | Oct 12 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Gut microbiota’s effect on mental health: The gut-brain axis | Oct 12 12:40 | |
| the_janitor | i don't get to talk about it in abstract terms, i just live it every moment. | Oct 12 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | NCBI - WWW Error Blocked Diagnostic | Oct 12 12:40 | |
| the_janitor | it's a miracle i'm still alive. | Oct 12 12:40 |
| the_janitor | i don't use that word lightly. | Oct 12 12:40 |
| *activelow grabs a cigarette | Oct 12 12:40 | |
| activelow | what a joy | Oct 12 12:41 |
| GNUmoon2 | the_janitor: sorry to hear that. I hope you are keeping well. | Oct 12 12:41 |
| the_janitor | GNUmoon2: cheers - i'm just subsisting but i do my best. all the best to you. | Oct 12 12:41 |
| the_janitor | wouldn't wish this on anybody on the oligarchs. | Oct 12 12:41 |
| the_janitor | s/on/but/ | Oct 12 12:41 |
| GNUmoon2 | Most people don't have a clue what's happening or why. But they do know they have to blame immigrants, single parents and Russia :) | Oct 12 12:42 |
| the_janitor | yep, all the distractions. amen to that. | Oct 12 12:42 |
| the_janitor | i always ask folks "why aren't you blaming the politicians and the political system?" crickets. | Oct 12 12:42 |
| the_janitor | it's like they can't see anything abstract - only what's literally in front of their eyes. | Oct 12 12:43 |
| the_janitor | so they go and attack what's in front of their eyes rather than the puppet masters. | Oct 12 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: gm | Oct 12 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | Morning | Oct 12 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to figure out numlock in GNOME. | Oct 12 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you left out the bit about salariesa | Oct 12 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and layoffs | Oct 12 12:44 |
| GNUmoon2 | the_janitor: "why aren't you blaming the politicians and the political system?" exactly. Or better yet, corporations or oligarchs. | Oct 12 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Seems it doesn't work with its own "remember NumLock status" setting. | Oct 12 12:44 |
| the_janitor | schestowitz-TR2: i don't really leave anything out - thing is there's too much to cover. :) | Oct 12 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | also, are those mint spins coming with vivaldi? | Oct 12 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or just monjaro/arch? | Oct 12 12:44 |
| GNUmoon2 | * corporations, billions or | Oct 12 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *manjaro | Oct 12 12:44 |
| the_janitor | GNUmoon2: yep i bring them up all the damn time but again crickets. | Oct 12 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Oh crap. | Oct 12 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | I goofed. | Oct 12 12:45 |
| GNUmoon2 | the_janitor: yep, I get crickets too. | Oct 12 12:45 |
| the_janitor | GNUmoon2: yep. i guess that's why we ended up here. :D | Oct 12 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there are some other points left out | Oct 12 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, This is why I shouldn't post while I'm tired. | Oct 12 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | I fixed that. | Oct 12 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and might be nice to add | Oct 12 12:46 |
| GNUmoon2 | the_janitor: Yes | Oct 12 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I lost track of them all while I read because ideas pop up in my head | Oct 12 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is getting damned annoying. | Oct 12 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | aside for their lies about "privacy" | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | did you mention (maybe next post/article|) | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 1) in 2014 they had Microsoft keylogger | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 2) they now experiment doing the same | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | january 2022 likely to be decision time | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or maybe they play hard to get with Google | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to up the sum | Oct 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe we need a wiki page | Oct 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | reasons to avoid firefox | Oct 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then list/enumerate with links | Oct 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it can be effective, like our pages about Mono and DDG | Oct 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Mozilla "diversity" is a fig leaf | Oct 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they try to distract from the real scandal | Oct 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like mister robot or whatever | Oct 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | all thos privacy gaffes | Oct 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | then people attack them over politics | Oct 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they say, "SEE? People who hate us are just bigots" | Oct 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same spiel as Big Blue IBM | Oct 12 12:49 |
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| DaemonFC | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/kubuntu.impish/desktop.minimal-remove | Oct 12 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 12 12:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "" | Oct 12 12:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "When Ubuntu briefly implemented a keylogger that sent your Shell searches to Amazon in their now-abandoned Unity Shell, Richard Stallman called Ubuntu malware.' | Oct 12 12:51 |
| schestowitz[TR] | After I had asked him to :-) | Oct 12 12:51 |
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| the_janitor | schestowitz-TR2: alert techrights-ipfs-bot [~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc] has quit [Ping timeout: 2m30s] | Oct 12 12:51 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | the_janitor: it will recover | Oct 12 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it runs a recovery script several times per day | Oct 12 12:52 |
| the_janitor | schestowitz-TR2: i saw there were some tech issues ealier and things hadn't fully recovered until you had to come manually fix them so i was concerned. thanks for heads up. | Oct 12 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've just run it manually | Oct 12 12:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: well done checking the latest firefox build | Oct 12 12:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | this is important | Oct 12 12:54 |
| the_janitor | okay wasn't sure if something had stopped working fully. | Oct 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it'll encourage users to pressure them to remove the keylogger | Oct 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or turn off by default | Oct 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | surely they will say it was 'accident' | Oct 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | another 'gaffe' | Oct 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like sending or relaying DNS from your ISP in your country to Pentagon ClownFlare | Oct 12 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, "As an aside, Mozilla is also considering changing the default search engine to Bing. | Oct 12 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Every few years, they come in and decide which crappy privacy-violating mess with worse search results than Google to switch all their users to as part of a cynical ploy to ultimately get Google back to the table for more money. | Oct 12 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has never offered any browser vendor more money than Google, which is whyGoogle is the default search engine on almost every browser, and the iPhone/Safari, even though Apple pretends they’re bitter enemies (over 60% of Apple iOS apps have Google tracking libraries in them). | Oct 12 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | I’m not a big fan of Google, but Bing is much worse. Instead of Google violating your privacy, it will be Microsoft, and then the search results often won’t even be usable." | Oct 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | where do I merge it in? | Oct 12 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Oct 12 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | "whyGoogle" | Oct 12 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | need to fix that now... | Oct 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ok, I already edit a copy from 20 mins ago | Oct 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we don't version-control the text | Oct 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "It’s bad enough that Fedora chucked its own Free Software policy out the door when IBM took them over, and started pushing Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Microsoft Edge. " | Oct 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | LOL | Oct 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DID they? | Oct 12 12:56 |
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| DaemonFC | "When will Mozilla learn to stop manipulating its remaining users? Never?" | Oct 12 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Refresh. | Oct 12 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | I added the Bing stuff to the bottom. | Oct 12 12:56 |
| the_janitor | i'm trying to jump ship from firefox right now. | Oct 12 12:56 |
| the_janitor | i wanted to years ago but couldn't find anything. | Oct 12 12:56 |
| the_janitor | now i'm desperate. | Oct 12 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz[TR]> "It’s bad enough that Fedora chucked its own Free Software policy out the door when IBM took them over, and started pushing Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Microsoft Edge. " | Oct 12 12:57 |
| the_janitor | i'm the demographic you are talking about. | Oct 12 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora now ships a "filtered" Flathub repo full of proprietary software. | Oct 12 12:57 |
| the_janitor | nobody is going to want to run to netsurf even though it's great for a start. | Oct 12 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | The only exclusions are things that may be legally dangerous for Red Hat to recommend. | Oct 12 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | flatpak and snaps are about proprietary "apps" | Oct 12 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | pushing them in as binaries | Oct 12 12:57 |
| the_janitor | we shun them here in this home. | Oct 12 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | good | Oct 12 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | an act of resistance | Oct 12 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it'll get worse | Oct 12 12:58 |
| the_janitor | we are elements of resistance. | Oct 12 12:58 |
| the_janitor | i know. :/ | Oct 12 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now they want a centralised "signature" mill | Oct 12 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | where they get to tell you what you can and cannot run in 'Linux' | Oct 12 12:59 |
| the_janitor | ursula von der leyden was talking about a digital ID just so you can get online. | Oct 12 12:59 |
| the_janitor | if that happens what do you think a lot of folks will do? | Oct 12 12:59 |
| activelow | sorry, seems i was in error, netsurf too claims to support html5, not sure about video someone had asked me about | Oct 12 12:59 |
| the_janitor | activelow: oh i didn't see you post on the html5 part. i just assumed that would work there. | Oct 12 12:59 |
| activelow | just wanted to correct an error if i had made any, didn't mean to interrupt the conversation | Oct 12 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: "Well, I what I suggest" | Oct 12 13:00 |
| schestowitz[TR] | typo | Oct 12 13:00 |
| the_janitor | damn, everything needs js. | Oct 12 13:00 |
| the_janitor | ah i'll stop making noise in here as well apologies. | Oct 12 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Crap | Oct 12 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | added missing paras at the end | Oct 12 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | Fixed. | Oct 12 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | remove the "what" | Oct 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or add "is" | Oct 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Well, what I suggest is that Mozilla CEO Mitchell Baker does with Firefox Suggest and Pocket is probably anatomically impossible, but that’s outside the scope of this post. | Oct 12 13:03 |
| the_janitor | What I suggest Mozilla CEO Mitchell Baker does with Firefox Suggest and Pocket is probably anatomically impossible, but that’s outside the scope of this post. | Oct 12 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | Installing Kubuntu 21.10 on the old laptop. | Oct 12 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | I took the Minimal option because KDE has a lot of bloatware that few people are going to use. | Oct 12 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe a couple of years from now Baker can still make $3 million a year selling a book about how "cancel culture" finished her carreer | Oct 12 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | Akonadi and KDE PIM in particular don't work well and use a lot of resources and clutter things up. | Oct 12 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | co-edited with Brendan Eich | Oct 12 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: I always kill all akonadi processes | Oct 12 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you use kmail, it will start or restart them | Oct 12 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're just a drag | Oct 12 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's nice that Kubuntu includes that post-install script where they figured out where all the junk is. Not everything is something you don't want. | Oct 12 13:07 |
| techrights-news | #Mozilla #Firefox Takes Another Step in the Direction of Being Malware With “Firefox Suggest” • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/mozilla-firefox-became-spyware/ ䷉ #Techrights | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/mozilla-firefox-became-spyware/ | Oct 12 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Firefox Takes Another Step in the Direction of Being Malware With “Firefox Suggest” | Techrights | Oct 12 13:07 | |
| DaemonFC | But you can put back just the applications you like later. | Oct 12 13:07 |
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| *schestowitz-TR2 gemifying the articles now | Oct 12 13:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh, wow | Oct 12 13:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "…16' class='wp-smiley emoji' draggable='false' alt=':/' src='https://s0.wp.com/…" | Oct 12 13:08 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | wordpress serves images for emojis | Oct 12 13:08 |
| schestowitz[TR] | instead of letting the client side use some, if any | Oct 12 13:08 |
| psydruid | Akonadi and KDE PIM should just be killed and removed | Oct 12 13:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <img width='16' height='16' class='wp-smiley emoji' draggable='false' alt=':/' src='https://s0.wp.com/wp-content/mu-plugins/wpcom-smileys/uneasy.svg' style='height: 1em; max-height: 1em;' /> | Oct 12 13:09 |
| psydruid | I've never used them and never will | Oct 12 13:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's not even valid xhtml | Oct 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: they even run a DATABASE | Oct 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | your KDE system uses mysql iirc | Oct 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for that thing you do not even use | Oct 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | CTRL+ESC | Oct 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "ako" | Oct 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ctrl+a, "End process" | Oct 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they all die until or unless you open the applications few people bother using | Oct 12 13:11 |
| psydruid | i should check it when I get on that laptop | Oct 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that used to be with nepomuk or whatever, I forgot the spelling | Oct 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it gave me hell in old KDE | Oct 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | using up all the system's resources for data | Oct 12 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | before I tracked down this culprit | Oct 12 13:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the only thing I enjoyed back then was force-killing it | Oct 12 13:12 |
| psydruid | it's the only one I use KDE Plasma on as it handles multiple screens decently compared to XFCE, MATE or Cinnamon | Oct 12 13:13 |
| psydruid | Yes, Nepomuk was a disaster too | Oct 12 13:13 |
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| psydruid | And these days you have something called Baloo | Oct 12 13:13 |
| psydruid | Tracker on GNOME | Oct 12 13:13 |
| psydruid | I don't know why they force these things onto people | Oct 12 13:14 |
| the_janitor | control. | Oct 12 13:14 |
| psydruid | If I want such a thing, I will enable it myself | Oct 12 13:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | my kde has tracker also | Oct 12 13:14 |
| schestowitz[TR] | maybe flatpak brought it? | Oct 12 13:14 |
| psydruid | I honestly don't know where these things are coming from anymore | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they ask us to buy new machinex | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | expensive machines | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | throw the old ones | Oct 12 13:15 |
| psydruid | but I know I won't run KDE on any lower-end hardware, as it's just too slow | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to use SOMEONE ELSE'S programs | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that spy and mine data | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like WIndows | Oct 12 13:15 |
| psydruid | here MATE is just the last step before I switch to a window manager | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | why doesn't Microsoft ship machines to people free of charge? | Oct 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it controls these machines anyway | Oct 12 13:16 |
| psydruid | everything else is more bloated and slower | Oct 12 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like spy meters and BT Home Spies | Oct 12 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Now it's "Smart" Spy II | Oct 12 13:16 |
| psydruid | they want you to pay but want to retain control | Oct 12 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it rebooted on its own last night | Oct 12 13:16 |
| psydruid | they can't have it both ways | Oct 12 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | after a silent firmware update yesterday evening | Oct 12 13:16 |
| psydruid | I can use Vista, but you'll have to pay me a lot of money for it | Oct 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | techrights gemini capsule was down 4+ hours as a result | Oct 12 13:17 |
| psydruid | and it will never be used at home | Oct 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a device in our home, remotely controlled by BT | Oct 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at least they don't yet have microphones and cameras | Oct 12 13:18 |
| psydruid | for a few jobs I had to use Vista, but then I just ran whatever software was needed for the job on it and the rest in a VM with GNU/Linux | Oct 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they might use "Smart" 'assistant" to peddle those | Oct 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like so-called smart TVs | Oct 12 13:18 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | then you go openwrt | Oct 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then say, NO! No service! | Oct 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so basically, no home connection | Oct 12 13:18 |
| psydruid | so I never actually experienced the various ways in which Vista messed up, because I was only using like 5% of its (dis)functionality | Oct 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unless you consent to CCTV and state-connected microphones inside your home | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe 5 years from now | Oct 12 13:19 |
| psydruid | welcome to a brave new world! | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for your safety! | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there's a "virus" out there | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "I know, I know | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Alexander Johnson | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he gave us brexit | Oct 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | instead of petrol | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he gave covid freedom to spread back in july | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | covid enjoys this freedom | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 1:20pm here | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at 4pm we'll see home many "freedoms" covid found today | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | roughly 40k I reckon | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "what doesn't kill you make you stronger" | Oct 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "FREEDOM1" | Oct 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | covid can infect you half a dozen times | Oct 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | until it does in fact kill you or leaves you permanently disable | Oct 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *led | Oct 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in the US, this celeb called "Fedora Guy" was left disabled by COVID | Oct 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he's only about 30 | Oct 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | obesity contributed to this | Oct 12 13:21 |
| psydruid | so far it's been one serious case lasting two months for me and then two "vaccines" messed me up for several more weeks | Oct 12 13:22 |
| gustaf | https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58876089 | Oct 12 13:22 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 bbc.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 13:22 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58876089 | Oct 12 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covid: UK's early response worst public health failure ever, MPs say - BBC News | Oct 12 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Covid: UK's early response worst public health failure ever, MPs say - BBC News | Oct 12 13:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Over 10 years ago RMS predicted "Smart" microwaves | Oct 12 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he was right | Oct 12 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but ridiculed for it back then | Oct 12 13:22 |
| gustaf | the recent Let's Encrypt root CA change revealed that ~8yr old "smart" TVs won't work with TLS | Oct 12 13:23 |
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| gustaf | because no-one is bothering to update them | Oct 12 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: or the computer I type from right now | Oct 12 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I had to delete tons of things to stop the constant nagging | Oct 12 13:24 |
| gustaf | and that;s just hte first of a number of root CA expirations | Oct 12 13:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | it's also a design mistake | Oct 12 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 'security' where certs expire without any consideration given to firewalled devices that can otherwise become broken windows | Oct 12 13:24 |
| gustaf | PKI is hard, man | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | planned obsolescene by FAKE security | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: it's hard | Oct 12 13:25 |
| psydruid | not shipping source code and making it easy to replace whatever is running on your device should be considered a crime | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which makes it worse | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | raises access barrier | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | less self-hosting | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | more centralisation | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and more breaches as a result | Oct 12 13:25 |
| gustaf | psydruid: why? planned obsolescense ;) | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bigger breaches each time | Oct 12 13:25 |
| gustaf | mo' money | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like 2-billion headcount breaches | Oct 12 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gustaf: when people start eating people they stop caring much about man-made "money" | Oct 12 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there are many reports lately of water shortages | Oct 12 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in almost every continent | Oct 12 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I hardly saw such reports 10-20 years ago | Oct 12 13:26 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | EVEN HERE IN MANCHESTER | Oct 12 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we get alarming emails each week | Oct 12 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that water is running low | Oct 12 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like half what it should be this time of year | Oct 12 13:27 |
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| GNUmoon2 | schestowitz: might be of interest: https://grain.org/en/article/6690-how-the-gates-foundation-is-driving-the-food-system-in-the-wrong-direction | Oct 12 13:30 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 grain.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://grain.org/en/article/6690-how-the-gates-foundation-is-driving-the-food-system-in-the-wrong-direction ) | Oct 12 13:30 | |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://grain.org/en/article/6690-how-the-gates-foundation-is-driving-the-food-system-in-the-wrong-direction | Oct 12 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | GRAIN | How the Gates Foundation is driving the food system, in the wrong direction | Oct 12 13:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | GNUmoon2: we covered it many times | Oct 12 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Kubuntu 21.10 is pretty nice. | Oct 12 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | over a decade ago | Oct 12 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | The Wayland session seems to work. | Oct 12 13:30 |
| techrights-news | Powerful Linux laptop RTX 3080 Kubuntu Focus Gen 3 M2 workstation • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156690 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Powerful Linux laptop RTX 3080 Kubuntu Focus Gen 3 M2 workstation | Tux Machines | Oct 12 13:30 | |
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| GNUmoon2 | schestowitz: I had a search through techrights, but I could not find a link for it, so I posted here. | Oct 12 13:31 |
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| GNUmoon2 | Just for a reference. | Oct 12 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks, I'll share | Oct 12 13:32 |
| techrights-news | #Top 5 Most Stable Linux Distributions in 2021 • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156691 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Most Stable Linux Distributions in 2021 | Tux Machines | Oct 12 13:33 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I may review Kubuntu later. | Oct 12 13:35 |
| gustaf | 80 more deaths until 15K deaths here in Sweden | Oct 12 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be a better option than KDE on Debian. | Oct 12 13:35 |
| gustaf | last round 1,000 was in Apr 24 | Oct 12 13:35 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you use masks | Oct 12 13:36 |
| schestowitz[TR] | unlike the covidiots here? | Oct 12 13:36 |
| gustaf | not any more , all restrictions lifted since 2 weeks back | Oct 12 13:36 |
| gustaf | but I still see people wearing them | Oct 12 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], No masks are a big problem there? | Oct 12 13:37 |
| techrights-news | [Older] How the #GatesFoundation is driving the food system, in the wrong direction https://grain.org/en/article/6690-how-the-gates-foundation-is-driving-the-food-system-in-the-wrong-direction criminal foundation http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2021 | Oct 12 13:37 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 grain.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 13:37 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://grain.org/en/article/6690-how-the-gates-foundation-is-driving-the-food-system-in-the-wrong-direction | Oct 12 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Oct 12 13:37 | |
| techrights-news | "Another update to Proton Experimental has landed as of October 11 bringing with it more fixes and even more Windows games are now working on Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/proton-experimental-sees-greedfall-eve-online-and-nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-working | Oct 12 13:38 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 gamingonlinux.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 13:38 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/proton-experimental-sees-greedfall-eve-online-and-nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-working | Oct 12 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proton Experimental sees GreedFall, Eve Online and Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl working | GamingOnLinux | Oct 12 13:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/proton-experimental-sees-greedfall-eve-online-and-nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-working ) | Oct 12 13:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [13:36] <gustaf> but I still see people wearing them | Oct 12 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they ought to | Oct 12 13:39 |
| techrights-news | Helping to keep your game library tidy #Lutris 0.5.9 is out supporting Epic Games Store | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/helping-to-keep-your-game-library-tidy-lutris-059-is-out-supporting-epic-games-store ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Oct 12 13:40 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 gamingonlinux.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 13:40 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/helping-to-keep-your-game-library-tidy-lutris-059-is-out-supporting-epic-games-store | Oct 12 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Helping to keep your game library tidy Lutris 0.5.9 is out supporting Epic Games Store | GamingOnLinux | Oct 12 13:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/helping-to-keep-your-game-library-tidy-lutris-059-is-out-supporting-epic-games-store ) | Oct 12 13:40 | |
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| techrights-news | Till Jaeger +++ Youth Hacking 4 Freedom +++ SFScon 2021 https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202110.en.html free labour or #slavery for corporate PR https://danielpocock.com/google-fsfe-child-labor/ | Oct 12 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Till Jaeger +++ Youth Hacking 4 Freedom +++ SFScon 2021 - FSFE | Oct 12 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfellowship.eu | Google, FSFE & Child labor | Oct 12 13:51 | |
| techrights-news | Ankush Das should really know better than to participate in #microsoft #googlebombing attack against #gnu #linux (also, #wsl is NOT FOSS). #itsfoss | Oct 12 13:53 |
| techrights-news | Don't help #microsoft attack #gnu #linux ... that is EXACTLY what #wsl2 functions as and you're not helping anybody but Microsoft when you give it publicity http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/microsoft-puff-pieces/ | Oct 12 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Edge on “Linux” Puff Pieces and WSL2 Fake “Linux” | Techrights | Oct 12 13:55 | |
| techrights-news | xkcd: New #NobelPrizes ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2527/ ䷉ #xkcd | Oct 12 13:55 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 xkcd.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: New Nobel Prizes | Oct 12 13:55 | |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2527/ | Oct 12 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | xkcd: New Nobel Prizes | Oct 12 13:55 | |
| techrights-news | You're dreaming, Richard. Just because #biden is "not Trump" doesn't mean he'll put down the military-industrial complex https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_October_2021_%28Urgent%3A_US_citizens%3A_urge_Biden_to_move_for_the_elimination_of_nuclear_weapons%29 | Oct 12 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Oct 12 13:59 | |
| techrights-news | The developer of the Better app may quit and remove the app from the #Apple store due to Apple’s #privacy violations. http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/apple-csam-scanner/ | Oct 12 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Developer of the “Better” App, Which Provides a Content Blocker for Safari, Considers Quitting Due to Apple’s Plans to Invade Users’ Privacy With “CSAM” Scanner. | Techrights | Oct 12 14:00 | |
| techrights-news | Yesterday I was surfing the web when I found out that #LKML , a centralized place to see what’s going on in #Linux #kernel development, was attempting to load an ad script from a company called #BuySellAds dot com http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/mozilla-firefox-became-spyware/ | Oct 12 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Firefox Takes Another Step in the Direction of Being Malware With “Firefox Suggest” | Techrights | Oct 12 14:01 | |
| techrights-news | Child labout and PR for Google? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156475#comment-31344 | Oct 12 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google, FSFE & Child labor | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:02 | |
| techrights-news | This should be based on skills and experience, not quotas based upon skin colour https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19640686.lack-black-councillors-middlesbough/ | Oct 12 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenorthernecho.co.uk | Lack of black councillors in Middlesbough | The Northern Echo | Oct 12 14:04 | |
| techrights-news | Sad but not shocking to see #CNXSoftware helping #microsoft with #googlebombing of #linux ... as they already take sponsorships to push Windows #malware every now and then :/ | Oct 12 14:05 |
| techrights-news | #microsoft INNOVA~1: we make even PENS not work. https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/surface-pen-not-writing/ | Oct 12 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to fix Surface Pen not writing on Surface Tablet | Oct 12 14:07 | |
| the_janitor | a question to all of my new, tech savvy camarades: how the hell do i set feh to work inside of lynx? | Oct 12 14:08 |
| the_janitor | search results are bunk. | Oct 12 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | feh the wallpaper tool? | Oct 12 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lynx is CLI software | Oct 12 14:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | feh will run in the canvas | Oct 12 14:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | kde, openbox etc. | Oct 12 14:09 |
| the_janitor | feh is an image viewer but yeah i should be able to set feh inside the lynx cfg file so that when i hit an image link it opens inside of feh but the way to do that is insanely archane and beyond my savvy. | Oct 12 14:09 |
| schestowitz[TR] | feh --bg-fill --randomize /media/roy/c3fd5b6e-794f-4f24-b3e7-b4ead3722f11/home/roy/Main/Graphics/Wallpapers/Single\ Head/natgeo/* & | Oct 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | to use one example | Oct 12 14:10 |
| the_janitor | in the lynx cfg?! | Oct 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | no idea | Oct 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | you can run lynx in konsole | Oct 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz[TR] | and set console to use background picture | Oct 12 14:11 |
| the_janitor | righto cheers. | Oct 12 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | does techrights look ok in lynx? | Oct 12 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've not tried in ages | Oct 12 14:13 |
| the_janitor | will give that a try now :) | Oct 12 14:13 |
| techrights-news | #wsl2 is an awful "product". Stop spamming it for #microsoft ... leave that to the Microsoft paid-for propaganda sites of Microsoft. Even the #WSL devs are deserting. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ | Oct 12 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights | Oct 12 14:14 | |
| the_janitor | schestowitz-TR2: it's grand - easily readable even for somebody with dyslexia. | Oct 12 14:15 |
| techrights-news | 2020: Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use #WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ | Oct 12 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights | Oct 12 14:15 | |
| techrights-news | Those are #GNU programs (many of them). They're not "LINUX" at all. https://linuxconfig.org/linux-commands-cheat-sheet | Oct 12 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-commands-cheat-sheet ) | Oct 12 14:18 | |
| altlink_051 | 📣 linuxconfig.org is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 14:18 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxconfig.org/linux-commands-cheat-sheet | Oct 12 14:18 |
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| techrights-news | #redhat #ibm outsourcing code to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly again https://opensource.com/article/21/10/linux-timers | Oct 12 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Create a timer on Linux | Opensource.com | Oct 12 14:20 | |
| techrights-news | #Debian 11.1 Bullseye and 10.11 Buster Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156601#comment-31345 | Oct 12 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11.1 "Bullseye" Released with 24 Security Updates and 75 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:23 | |
| techrights-news | Just added Update #3: The latest #Microsoft reputation laundering by #MicrosoftTim this week. http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/microsoft-stealing/ #theregister #deletegithub #plunder http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Oct 12 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub is for Theft by Microsoft (Stealing Other People’s Work) | Techrights | Oct 12 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Oct 12 14:25 | |
| techrights-news | " #Mozilla disappoints again, a beacon of hope in the mobile world, whether the future of the Internet really is a dystopian nightmare, and the usual #KDE goodness in the Korner." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-146/ #gnu #linux | Oct 12 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 146 – Late Night Linux | Oct 12 14:27 | |
| techrights-news | "Most of the Emacs integrated environment is written in the #programming language called #Emacs #Lisp ." https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-emacs-lisp/ | Oct 12 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Emacs Lisp - LinuxLinks | Oct 12 14:29 | |
| techrights-news | #Games: Proton Experimental, Lutris, and More • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156692 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Proton Experimental, Lutris, and More | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:30 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156693 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:30 | |
| techrights-news | Come on, Red Hat, IBM killed people, not only jobs ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/automation-kill-job ䷉ #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Attacking_Communities.2FVolunteers | Oct 12 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Will IT automation kill my job? | Enable Sysadmin | Oct 12 14:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Oct 12 14:33 | |
| techrights-news | #ibm should know this because there's a major staff #exodus inside IBM and even #redhat https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/it-careers-great-resignation-14-statistics | Oct 12 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | The great resignation: 14 stats on the state of the IT career market | The Enterprisers Project | Oct 12 14:34 | |
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| techrights-news | #Fatdog64 811 works real nice ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202110/fatdog64-811-works-real-nice.html ䷉ #bkhome #gnu #linux #puppylinux | Oct 12 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Fatdog64 811 works real nice | Oct 12 14:35 | |
| techrights-news | Ha! Coming from #ibm #redhat which imposes #proprietarySoftware #surveillance like #slack on workers who are home. Why not rootkit them, too? https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/10/12/tools-and-practices-remote-development-teams | Oct 12 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Tools and practices for remote development teams | Red Hat Developer | Oct 12 14:37 | |
| techrights-news | #redhat is already Bluewashed and that's why many people are leaving. They also don't want to wait for #ibm to formally lay them off... | Oct 12 14:38 |
| techrights-news | #Linux Developers Push Urgent Patches... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156632#comment-31346 | Oct 12 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: NVDEC and x86 | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:44 | |
| techrights-news | #Python Takes First Place in #TIOBE Programming Languages Ranking - itsfoss.net ⚓ https://www.itsfoss.net/python-takes-first-place-in-tiobe-programming-languages-ranking/ ䷉ #Programming | Oct 12 14:47 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 itsfoss.net is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 14:47 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/python-takes-first-place-in-tiobe-programming-languages-ranking/ | Oct 12 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Python Takes First Place in TIOBE Programming Languages Ranking - itsfoss.net | Oct 12 14:47 | |
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| techrights-news | #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156694 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:49 | |
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| techrights-news | #Qubes OS 4.1-rc1 has been released! • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156695 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS 4.1-rc1 has been released! | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:50 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2110048 | Oct 12 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5905736) | Oct 12 14:50 | |
| techrights-news | #RaspberryPi Minitel Project Adds Portability to Retro Computer • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156696 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Minitel Project Adds Portability to Retro Computer | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:50 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | MinceR: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/11/hungarian-style-soft-fascism-is-the-gops-ruthless-new-brand/ | Oct 12 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hungarian-Style Soft Fascism is the GOP’s Ruthless New Brand - CounterPunch.org | Oct 12 14:52 | |
| techrights-news | #sony and #gplcompliance https://www.itsfoss.net/sony-accelerates-on-opensource-and-linux-in-particular/ | Oct 12 14:52 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 itsfoss.net is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 14:52 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/sony-accelerates-on-opensource-and-linux-in-particular/ | Oct 12 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sony accelerates on OpenSource and Linux in particular - itsfoss.net | Oct 12 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211012135248/https://www.itsfoss.net/sony-accelerates-on-opensource-and-linux-in-particular/ ) | Oct 12 14:53 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz[TR]: i just finished reading it | Oct 12 14:54 |
| techrights-news | Linux #x86 FPU Code Getting Reworked In Preparation For Intel AMX - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-FPU-Cleaning-For-AMX ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | Oct 12 14:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux x86 FPU Code Getting Reworked In Preparation For Intel AMX - Phoronix | Oct 12 14:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Linux x86 FPU Code Getting Reworked In Preparation For Intel AMX - Phoronix | Oct 12 14:55 | |
| techrights-news | #Intel Posts Latest DG2/Alchemist Linux Patches In Requiring 64K Page Size Handling - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-DG2-64k-Pages-Flat-CCS ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | Oct 12 14:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Posts Latest DG2/Alchemist Linux Patches In Requiring 64K Page Size Handling - Phoronix | Oct 12 14:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Intel Posts Latest DG2/Alchemist Linux Patches In Requiring 64K Page Size Handling - Phoronix | Oct 12 14:56 | |
| techrights-news | #Gnome 40: A Look Into the Upgraded Desktop Environment • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156697 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnome 40: A Look Into the Upgraded Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Oct 12 14:59 | |
| techrights-news | Automate image processing with this Bash script | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/10/image-processing-bash-script ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | Oct 12 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automate image processing with this Bash script | Opensource.com | Oct 12 15:00 | |
| techrights-news | "We're wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the #Apache community..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up247 | Oct 12 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 October 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog | Oct 12 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | #Intel Tiger Lake Performance Across Five Autumn 2021 Linux Distributions • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156698 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #benchmark | Oct 12 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Tiger Lake Performance Across Five Autumn 2021 Linux Distributions | Tux Machines | Oct 12 15:01 | |
| techrights-news | #Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.41 Different Patterns https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/10/11/2021-41-different-patterns/ #rakulang #programming | Oct 12 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.41 Different Patterns – Rakudo Weekly News | Oct 12 15:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Both my laptops run Kubuntu 21.10 fine. | Oct 12 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | should be | Oct 12 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | The KDE Wayland session even works properly. | Oct 12 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and you know how to configure the router | Oct 12 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | Debian 11's KDE just isn't where it needs to be on that. | Oct 12 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wayland is not compatible with many things I do | Oct 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so IBM and Intel are just messing about and breaking things | Oct 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Debian 11 is x11 | Oct 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or xorg/xserver | Oct 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you try to make it do something it's not trying to | Oct 12 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | Nonetheless, KDE stopped bothering to fix issues with the KWin on X11 session. | Oct 12 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | Debian 11 uses Wayland on the GNOME edition. | Oct 12 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | works fine for me in Debian 11 | Oct 12 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *10 | Oct 12 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so Debian 11 becomes more like an LTS Fedora clone | Oct 12 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at least we have alternatives ready | Oct 12 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | I think that either Debian 11 or Ubuntu 21.10 should work fine with GNOME. | Oct 12 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | But with KDE, Kubuntu 21.10 is preferable. | Oct 12 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | The setup program is better, the Wayland support is better, there's been a major GUI overhaul that I think is better, and it uses less memory now. | Oct 12 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the KDE Remote Desktop program should work under Wayland. | Oct 12 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's based on Debian | Oct 12 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't have any hard dependencies on X. | Oct 12 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some things do | Oct 12 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like various x-specific commands | Oct 12 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, Kubuntu is _based_ on Debian, but it's not Debian. I don't even think there is a way to run current KDE packages on Debian. | Oct 12 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe not the GUIs that you use | Oct 12 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you use some Testing version I guess. | Oct 12 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is sort of boring. It's there, it works, it doesn't look bad (anymore). | Oct 12 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose as far as workstation roles go, it makes sense for Debian to default to it. | Oct 12 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | X11 is rotting away terribly, and Ubuntu defaults to it in GNOME, but that's just a default. | Oct 12 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | how is x11 rotting away? | Oct 12 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's stable | Oct 12 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and still patched when it needs patches | Oct 12 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think you fell for IBM FUD | Oct 12 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and propaganda tactics | Oct 12 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | systemd is rejected by ChromeOS | Oct 12 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so alternatives for init and other parts will still exist | Oct 12 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and some distros will use them | Oct 12 15:10 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/kubuntu-focus-m2-linux-laptop-12-10-2021/ | Oct 12 15:11 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 geeky-gadgets.com is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 15:11 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/kubuntu-focus-m2-linux-laptop-12-10-2021/ | Oct 12 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Kubuntu Focus unveiled powerful M2 Linux laptop - Geeky Gadgets | Oct 12 15:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, KDE hasn't bothered to fix any of their issues on X11 for a very long time now. | Oct 12 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20211012141123/https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/kubuntu-focus-m2-linux-laptop-12-10-2021/ ) | Oct 12 15:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like, what? | Oct 12 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | All of the heavy development has been on the Wayland session, which has finally paid off. | Oct 12 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | But it just doesn't work well on HiDPI displayes with X11. | Oct 12 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's weird and inconsistent scaling problems. | Oct 12 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | Fonts look bad, the mouse cursor changes sizes depending on what you're hovering over, icons are too small. | Oct 12 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | In the latest KDE, you log into Wayland, hit scale to 200%, and BAM, everything looks good. | Oct 12 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | Done. | Oct 12 15:13 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Oct 12 15:13 |
| MinceR | phosh uses HiDPI by default, and it has some rough edges | Oct 12 15:13 |
| MinceR | like stuff using some other toolkit than GTK+ tends to end up being pixelated | Oct 12 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | KWin's X11 session is usable on HiDPI, but it's inconsistent to the point of jarring. | Oct 12 15:13 |
| MinceR | and would work better without magnification | Oct 12 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | Either way works on a 1920x1080 display though. | Oct 12 15:14 |
| MinceR | but if i turn it off, GTK apps become a pain to use with a touchscreen | Oct 12 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | I think schestowitz-TR2 was wondering why I learned to just install GNOME and be done with it. | Oct 12 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of it was THAT laptop. | Oct 12 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'd look at any other desktop and go "Ugh, it's <year>....Why is this still a problem?". | Oct 12 15:15 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/superjerk-is-a-jerk.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1325/ ) | Oct 12 15:15 |
| altlink_051 | 📣 explosm.net is Cloudflare domain. | Oct 12 15:15 |
| altlink_051 | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/superjerk-is-a-jerk.png | Oct 12 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Oct 12 15:15 | |
| DaemonFC | But Kubuntu 21.10 is great with a couple of tweaks. | Oct 12 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | I generally tend to rate desktops as good or crap based on several initial impressions. Are they consistent? Do they have jank when I go to pull down a menu or move a window? Is it relatively easy to use? What's the resource consumption like? | Oct 12 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | The Explorer Shell on Windows is probably the lowest in my opinion. | Oct 12 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | The latest KDE or GNOME are good. | Oct 12 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | As far as depending on some sort of hardware acceleration, why not? | Oct 12 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Every PC since Windows Vista has a good enough graphics chip to run KWin with the OpenGL 2 backend, on Wayland. | Oct 12 15:18 |
| MinceR | because they tend to depend on hw acceleration for fancy effects that hinder usage of the system | Oct 12 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be disappointed if they weren't trying to leverage the hardware that's there anyway. | Oct 12 15:19 |
| MinceR | animations that waste the user's time and things like that | Oct 12 15:19 |
| MinceR | and they can trigger GPU driver bugs | Oct 12 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then the bugs should be fixed. | Oct 12 15:19 |
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| MinceR | yes | Oct 12 15:20 |
| MinceR | and i would like to have a pony | Oct 12 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there was a debate about this a while back and GTK actually performed better using llvmpipe than framebuffer. | Oct 12 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | So it's not like it's doing something worse than it was before, even with llvmpipe as the fallback. | Oct 12 15:21 |
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| DaemonFC | http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/mozilla-firefox-became-spyware/ | Oct 12 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Firefox Takes Another Step in the Direction of Being Malware With “Firefox Suggest” | Techrights | Oct 12 15:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, ^ I messed that up a little. | Oct 12 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | I meant to say Manjaro. | Oct 12 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-is-the-default-browser-on-manjaro-linux/ | Oct 12 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vivaldi is the default browser on Manjaro Linux Cinnamon | Vivaldi Browser | Oct 12 15:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi is less overtly hostile to the user than Firefox. | Oct 12 15:26 |
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| DaemonFC | And it manages to keep resource comsumption down. | Oct 12 15:26 |
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| DaemonFC | Running Wordpress in Writer mode really causes Firefox to spin up the CPU. | Oct 12 15:27 |
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| DaemonFC | It does on Vivaldi too and then it seems to realize something's wrong and rate limit the page. | Oct 12 15:27 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I don't suppose there's much in the way of long term gain by using Ubuntu. They're clearly in trouble. | Oct 12 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | They hawk WSL, and while I suppose that doesn't affect Kubuntu a lot day to day, eww. | Oct 12 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | Nice message there. | Oct 12 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Why even bother installing our OS? Get a Linux simulator for Windows that uses some of our binaries!" | Oct 12 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they get paid to not compete | Oct 12 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Zemlin also | Oct 12 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the whole thing is sold | Oct 12 15:49 |
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| DaemonFC | There's all sorts of hacks around bugs in WSL itself where something in "Linux" just doesn't line up properly with the Windows Host and disaster ensues. | Oct 12 15:51 |
| techrights-news | #Multiboot USB Creator Ventoy Adds a GUI Mode to Its Live ISO Image • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156699 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Multiboot USB Creator Ventoy Adds a GUI Mode to Its Live ISO Image | Tux Machines | Oct 12 15:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: WSL failed | Oct 12 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the devs left | Oct 12 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they just use it for googlebombing now | Oct 12 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://hackaday.com/2019/12/23/linux-fu-wsl-tricks-blur-the-windows-linux-line/ | Oct 12 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Fu: WSL Tricks Blur The Windows/Linux Line | Hackaday | Oct 12 15:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to signal to gnu/linux people that windows=windows+1 | Oct 12 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | "Given the choice, we’ll just use Linux. Honestly, if your workflow is mostly Web-based, it hardly matters anymore. You load Chrome or your choice of browser and everything works. Of course, our Linux boxes tend to be way more efficient and also stay running better than Windows. | Oct 12 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | However, if you find yourself using Windows, Cygwin has long been a big help. Now WSL is another tool to get your Linux tools on a Microsoft-controlled box." | Oct 12 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Microsoft-controlled | Oct 12 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 12 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Sometimes it's the simple things that get you. | Oct 12 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | So, uh, I figured out the numlock thing with GNOME. | Oct 12 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | It turns it on but doesn't make the light come on. | Oct 12 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | So the numpad works, but there's no light, then if you press it, the light comes on and it doesn't work. | Oct 12 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | Whatever. | Oct 12 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | Now that I know that GNOME just don't activate the light and the numerical keys work, I can stop messing with it going what the hell is wrong with this thing. | Oct 12 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | I probably should have checked what the keys were actually doing. | Oct 12 15:54 |
| techrights-news | High-performance embedded #DBMS #libmdbx 0.10.4 and #libfpta 0.3.9 released - itsfoss.net ⚓ https://www.itsfoss.net/libmdbx-0-10-4-and-libfpta-0-3-9-released/ ䷉ #ItsFOSS | Oct 12 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-High-performance embedded DBMS libmdbx 0.10.4 and libfpta 0.3.9 released - itsfoss.net | Oct 12 15:55 | |
| DaemonFC | If that wasn't bad enough, some Arch Linux users say that the systemd service that Arch made for turning on your numlock key at boot turns on the light, but then the buttons don't work. | Oct 12 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | But a couple of them say that it totally messed up their computer. | Oct 12 15:56 |
| techrights-news | It's Ada Lovelace Day! Learn the #Ada #programming language in 2021 | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/21/10/learn-ada-2021 ䷉ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM | Oct 12 15:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's Ada Lovelace Day! Learn the Ada programming language in 2021 | Opensource.com | Oct 12 15:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | " GarySeven21 commented on 2020-07-15 10:34 | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Just tried out of curiosity and doesn't work. Upon installation it "semi-broke" my Arch Cinnamon DE install by also uninstalling the following (output from Pamac log): [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed systemd-numlockontty (0.1-12) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed vulkan-icd-loader (1.2.146-1) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed dhcpcd (9.1.4-1) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed dav1d (0.7.1-1) [2020-07-15T10:49:50 | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | +0200] [ALPM] removed ffmpeg (2:4.2.3-2) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed chromaprint (1.5.0-1) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed gst-plugins-bad (1.16.2-13) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed libplacebo (1.29.1-3) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed gstreamer-vaapi (1.16.2-2) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed vlc (3.0.11-1) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed ffmpegthumbnailer (2.2.2-2) | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed firefox (78.0.1-1) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed gst-libav (1.16.2-2) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed guvcview-common (2.0.6-5) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed mencoder (38157-2) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed transcode (1.1.7-33) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed xine-lib (1.2.10-4) [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed guvcview (2.0.6-5) | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | [2020-07-15T10:49:50+0200] [ALPM] removed quodlibet (4.3.0-2) [2020-07-14T10:37:46+0200] [ALPM] installed systemd-numlockontty (0.1-12) | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | " | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | And you thought the dependency matrix on Debian was fucked. | Oct 12 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Oct 12 15:57 |
| techrights-news | #mozilla puts a "Sheriff" in #firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/10/11/performance-sheriff-newsletter-august-2021/ | Oct 12 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (August 2021) – Mozilla Performance | Oct 12 15:58 | |
| techrights-news | Triaging #Debian build failure logs with collab-qa-tools - Antonio Terceiro ⚓ https://terceiro.xyz/2021/10/12/triaging-debian-build-failure-logs-with-collab-qa-tools/ ䷉ #terceiro #ruby #programming | Oct 12 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-terceiro.xyz | Triaging Debian build failure logs with collab-qa-tools - Antonio Terceiro | Oct 12 15:59 | |
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| techrights-news | "SUSE Enterprise Storage, SUSE’s software-defined storage product based on Ceph, doesn’t appear to have made the cut. According to their support pages, it is scheduled for End of Life with milestones in January 2021 and 2022." https://ubuntu.com//blog/suse-enterprise-storage | Oct 12 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Enterprise Storage: What next? | Ubuntu | Oct 12 16:01 | |
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| techrights-news | #Arkime 3.1 network traffic indexing system is available - itsfoss.net ⚓ https://www.itsfoss.net/arkime-3-1-network-traffic-indexing-system-is-available/ Apache 2.0 license | Oct 12 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arkime 3.1 network traffic indexing system is available - itsfoss.net | Oct 12 16:01 | |
| DaemonFC | /home/ryanf/Music/Bob Marley/[2002] Legend [Deluxe Edition]/10-I Shot the Sheriff.opus | Oct 12 16:02 |
| techrights-news | The latest Linux release candidate... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156632#comment-31347 | Oct 12 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: NVDEC and x86 | Tux Machines | Oct 12 16:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: did you??? | Oct 12 16:04 |
| techrights-news | #suse : your data. For the Pentagon. In the name (or buzzword) of #clowncomputing https://www.suse.com/c/ready-to-solve-for-whats-next-join-suse-at-google-cloud-next/ | Oct 12 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ready to Solve for What's Next? Join SUSE at Google Cloud Next! | SUSE Communities | Oct 12 16:06 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I was talking to that T-Mobile support lady. She asked what operating system I was using. | Oct 12 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tell her | Oct 12 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I shot the sherriff OS | Oct 12 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | So I had to explain Debian shortly, and then she asked what VPN I was using. | Oct 12 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *sheriff | Oct 12 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | I like how they're all like why do you use a VPN at most ISPs. | Oct 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DPI | Oct 12 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | "Becuase it's none of your business what I am doing." | Oct 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it harms their farming of data | Oct 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they charge you money | Oct 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then sell you | Oct 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: [15:58] <techrights-news> #mozilla puts a "Sheriff" in #firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/10/11/performance-sheriff-newsletter-august-2021/ | Oct 12 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Sheriff | Oct 12 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | creepy name, imho | Oct 12 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what next? | Oct 12 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, This has been around forever. | Oct 12 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but the name? | Oct 12 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's Mozilla jargon. | Oct 12 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yes. | Oct 12 16:10 |
| techrights-news | An alternative search tool for #LibreOffice Writer - Linux Magazine ⚓ https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/AltSearch ䷉ #LinuxMagazine #FreeSW #GNU #Linux | Oct 12 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | AltSearch » Linux Magazine | Oct 12 16:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: they're bakering lots of spyware into Firefox | Oct 12 16:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | mind the pun | Oct 12 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there's is "Glean" | Oct 12 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in Microsoft GitHub | Oct 12 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they do... "BIG DATA"!! | Oct 12 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Ha!! | Oct 12 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Hey, Mozilla!! | Oct 12 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "SUCK MY BIG DATA!!" | Oct 12 16:11 |
| techrights-news | #Debian: Error Logs, Fatdog64, and EasyOS • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156701 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Error Logs, Fatdog64, and EasyOS | Tux Machines | Oct 12 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | #SUSE: Clown Computing and Rancher News • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156700 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE: Clown Computing and Rancher News | Tux Machines | Oct 12 16:14 | |
| techrights-news | #Intel: DG2, AMX, and MPX • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156702 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel: DG2, AMX, and MPX | Tux Machines | Oct 12 16:19 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, Still plodding along on this comparison of Debian and Ubuntu with KDE. | Oct 12 16:20 |
| techrights-news | More #surveillance such as #listeningDevices or #bugs around the home https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/12/sonoff-nspanel-3-5-inch-hmi-display-home-automation/ this should be regulated if not BANNED. Many non-consenting people affected. | Oct 12 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Sonoff NSPanel - A 3.5-inch HMI display for home automation (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Oct 12 16:20 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying that while I like the newer KDE a lot more, the whole point of Debian is to be more reliable and stick with older software that's a known factor and to stabilize it. | Oct 12 16:21 |
| techrights-news | Competitive Compatibility: Let’s Fix the #Internet , Not the Tech Giants • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156703 #standards #TuxMachines | Oct 12 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Competitive Compatibility: Let's Fix the Internet, Not the Tech Giants | Tux Machines | Oct 12 16:21 | |
| DaemonFC | There will never be "no bugs", but I've noticed that the prevalence of serious bugs in these six month releases is much worse. | Oct 12 16:22 |
| techrights-news | #DFI chose boards with #nsa #backdoors https://linuxgizmos.com/dfi-spins-tiger-lake-thin-mini-itx-sbc-and-com-express-modules/ | Oct 12 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/dfi-spins-tiger-lake-thin-mini-itx-sbc-and-com-express-modules/ ) | Oct 12 16:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Upstream sees them as something they don't have to live with for a while, which is sort of a disposable beta for the next LTS. | Oct 12 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | So the mentality is it doesn't have to work quite right. | Oct 12 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: here's the thing | Oct 12 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I kept asking you for examples | Oct 12 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which you did not give | Oct 12 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like x11-related bugs in debian 11 | Oct 12 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | debian is not perfect | Oct 12 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but.. | Oct 12 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the likelihood of it breaking is not high | Oct 12 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and you can fix it | Oct 12 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | The scaling problems on that laptop, forgetting I have a touchpad when it resumes from suspend, etc. | Oct 12 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for people who want to do risky stuff, go rolling or Vista SP11 Rolling Edition | Oct 12 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, aside from gross hacks like running scripts to rmmod the touchpad and slap it back in.... | Oct 12 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I want to not mess around with my PC for years | Oct 12 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | My God, X11 is shit. | Oct 12 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | use external mice | Oct 12 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so much better | Oct 12 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unless you're in some airport | Oct 12 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I hate all those devices for mousing | Oct 12 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because movements are imprecide | Oct 12 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you're better off just memorising keyboard shortcuts | Oct 12 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | I would have used Wayland sooner except that XWayland was having big performance issues. | Oct 12 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's not. | Oct 12 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, bbiab. Lunch. | Oct 12 16:26 |
| techrights-news | Clean Up in the Digital Aisle: #Privacy Concerns with #Sobeys Inc. “Caper Carts” System - The Citizen Lab ⚓ https://citizenlab.ca/2021/10/clean-up-in-the-digital-aisle-privacy-concerns-with-sobeys-inc-caper-carts-system/ ䷉ #citizenlab on mass #surveillance inside stores | Oct 12 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | Clean Up in the Digital Aisle: Privacy Concerns with Sobeys Inc. “Caper Carts” System - The Citizen Lab | Oct 12 16:26 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DaemonFC: ok | Oct 12 16:27 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Oct 12 16:28 | |
| techrights-news | People worry about getting 'chipped'. Then go about ranting about it on their "mobile" (tracking) devices while buying "apps" with their chipped "credit" card. If you value #privacy of the self (or the body), you will use cash and a landline at home. | Oct 12 16:28 |
| techrights-news | What's more crazy? Resisting the #surveillance state or accepting it? Taking for granted oppressive measures seems crazy and even reckless to me... | Oct 12 16:29 |
| techrights-news | #swpats weaponised against #freesw (sort of) even when those software #patents are clearly #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/11/2000-for-phoji-prior-art | Oct 12 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Phoji prior art — Unified Patents | Oct 12 16:30 | |
| psydruid | https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2021-October/024523.html | Oct 12 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-minnie.tuhs.org | [TUHS] RIP Jörg Schilling | Oct 12 16:37 | |
| MinceR | 12 172446 < DaemonFC> My God, X11 is shit. | Oct 12 16:37 |
| techrights-news | #china granting #swpats to #patentTrolls and their #patent pools? INVALID! https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/8/another-etri-chinese-patent-held-invalid | Oct 12 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Another ETRI AV1/HEVC patent held invalid in China — Unified Patents | Oct 12 16:37 | |
| MinceR | and what is more shit than X11? every other windowing system. | Oct 12 16:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | X is very mature | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I can run it for a yeart | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | without having to reboot | Oct 12 16:38 |
| psydruid | I think we can see Wayland for what it is now | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's not perfect of infallible | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but usually it just sits there in the background and works | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I can ssh -X | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I use many x tools | Oct 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for automation, for special keyboard shortcuts etc. | Oct 12 16:39 |
| psydruid | but when they started talking about it, it was supposed to be the thing that made X obsolete | Oct 12 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wayland offers nothing to me | Oct 12 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | shallow appeal to novelty | Oct 12 16:39 |
| psydruid | and now it's slower and still doesn't work for many people and applications | Oct 12 16:39 |
| psydruid | so what was the entire point of that thing? | Oct 12 16:39 |
| psydruid | control? | Oct 12 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they will make life hard for people like me | Oct 12 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'd have to study workarounds and stuff | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wontfix | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | X code is famously neat | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | well orgaised | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | stable mature | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unlike wayland and systemd I hear | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so why rebuild this | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because it's not IBM? | Oct 12 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | because they find a "sily" variable name in X | Oct 12 16:40 |
| psydruid | it has its limitations, but making a giant hairball of code to replace is not the way to go for actual users of these systems | Oct 12 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | silly with "crazy" values? | Oct 12 16:41 |
| psydruid | sometimes I'm wondering if IBM/RH people even use this stuff that they code up | Oct 12 16:41 |
| psydruid | I wonder* | Oct 12 16:41 |
| activelow | i remain sceptical about the security model of X11 (sniffing on xinput circuumventing /dev/tty) | Oct 12 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the support people | Oct 12 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe not their coders | Oct 12 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they sell support, for when things break | Oct 12 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if things break more, than more support | Oct 12 16:41 |
| psydruid | dogfooding was a big thing at Sun Microsystems | Oct 12 16:42 |
| psydruid | I doubt it is at IBM/RH | Oct 12 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Good thing Allowhurst uses it all | Oct 12 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh wait | Oct 12 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he uses a FUCKING MAC | Oct 12 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | jim, tell us about flatfak | Oct 12 16:43 |
| psydruid | RH developer: developing and running Fedora in a VM on my Mac | Oct 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ah, erm.. | Oct 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "exactly" | Oct 12 16:43 |
| activelow | then, lately, xorg chose to implement a different driver model of keyboard input, depending on evdev, which again circuumvents /dev/tty | Oct 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: DaemonFC says the Fedora 'community' in IRC get infested with Windows/EDGE type people | Oct 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i.e. people who 'care' for Fedora | Oct 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but don't use it | Oct 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | activelow: it was not being replaced for security reasons though | Oct 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nobody claimed systemd was a security merit thing, either | Oct 12 16:44 |
| psydruid | who care for Fedora like they 'care' for the elderly or their pets | Oct 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | usually they just say, well.... let's make something news | Oct 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *new | Oct 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | OSS and alsa could be improved with a lot less effort than 2 million LOCs in Microsoft shithub | Oct 12 16:45 |
| psydruid | schestowitz-TR2, that much was clear to me, the few times I filed bug reports for Fedora, I was wondering why no one else caught those bugs | Oct 12 16:45 |
| psydruid | although admittedly I also only ran Fedora in QEMU | Oct 12 16:45 |
| psydruid | because there is no way I would run that crap directly on my machine | Oct 12 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Fedora is a sandbox to them | Oct 12 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | to some users it's a production machine | Oct 12 16:45 |
| psydruid | not since Fedora Core 1 | Oct 12 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I used that in a macine at university for work | Oct 12 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | big mistaker | Oct 12 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even installing some packages like gnu octave or gnu plot was not possible | Oct 12 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hours spent dealing with their mess | Oct 12 16:46 |
| psydruid | I moved my own machine and those of my parents and siblings to Slackware after a month or two of constant bugs and crashes in Fedora Core 1 | Oct 12 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | IBM stopped getting slave time off of Fedora | Oct 12 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | much of the community was scuttled and dismantled | Oct 12 16:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the developers contribute to other distros now | Oct 12 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I used Core 1 and 2 | Oct 12 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for their time, they were not bad | Oct 12 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | SuSE worked before | Oct 12 16:47 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that was before opensuse | Oct 12 16:47 |
| techrights-news | #ipkat advertising #upc liars and extremists. #unifiedpatentcourt is dead, but #teamUPC weaponises connections to spread lies. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/monday-miscellany.html | Oct 12 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Monday Miscellany - The IPKat | Oct 12 16:49 | |
| psydruid | SuSE was good until it became buggy and unstable around 2010 | Oct 12 16:49 |
| psydruid | it's better again now, but with strings attached | Oct 12 16:49 |
| psydruid | I don't see it as a viable alternative anymore | Oct 12 16:49 |
| psydruid | maybe for business desktops | Oct 12 16:49 |
| psydruid | with a limited set of applications | Oct 12 16:49 |
| techrights-news | This 'article' (LIES) did NOT age well :-) http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170407000524 when is it coming, Margot? Next year? As in 2015??? http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/upc-facts/ | Oct 12 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreaherald.com | [Newsmaker] ‘Europe’s unitary patent system will bring benefits to Korean firms’ | Oct 12 16:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Margot Forgot UPC Facts | Techrights | Oct 12 16:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | psydruid: suse is a liability for ethical reaosns | Oct 12 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unless you just need a very exensive OS for SAP | Oct 12 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | with "clown" offering | Oct 12 16:52 |
| psydruid | that's what I meant | Oct 12 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ask the suits and the shiny brochure under their elbow | Oct 12 16:52 |
| psydruid | I wouldn't install it for anyone in a home setting | Oct 12 16:52 |
| psydruid | even though it's not bad | Oct 12 16:52 |
| psydruid | but that ship has sailed | Oct 12 16:52 |
| techrights-news | "...’363 patent was invalid" https://www.natlawreview.com/article/clarifying-pleading-requirements-patent-cases #uspto #fakepatents #patentMill #patents #swpats | Oct 12 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Federal Circuit Affirms Dismissal of Bot M8 Patent Claims | Oct 12 16:54 | |
| techrights-news | It's hard to determine what proportion of granted #patents is just #fakepatents waiting to be challenged. In courts we see landing only some of the 'stronger' ones. What if 3 out of 4 #patent #monopolies were in fact possible to dismantle in court? Are we protecting a BUBBLE by making challenges too expensive? | Oct 12 16:56 |
| activelow | one crucial question is this: should a gnu/linux distribution encourage a fully source based work flow or not (regardles of binary drops available) | Oct 12 16:56 |
| *techrights_guest|19 (~5198ef1a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 12 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | “We find that the Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei and Realme Android variants all transmit a substantial volume of data to the OS developer (i.e. Samsung etc) and to third-party parties that have pre-installed system apps (including Google, Microsoft, Heytap, LinkedIn, Facebook). #LineageOS sends similar volumes of data to #Google as these proprietary #Android variants” | Oct 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz | https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/study-reveals-scale-of-data-sharing-from-android-mobile-phones/ | Oct 12 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tcd.ie | Study reveals scale of data-sharing from Android mobile phones - Trinity News and Events | Oct 12 16:58 | |
| techrights-news | #TomsHardware shilling a #microsoft ATTACK on #gnu #linux or helps Microsoft's #googlebombing campaign to promote malware via WSL/2 | Oct 12 17:00 |
| techrights-news | #proprietarySoftware https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ics/advisories/icsa-21-285-01 https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ics/advisories/icsa-21-285-02 | Oct 12 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Advantech WebAccess SCADA | CISA | Oct 12 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Advantech WebAccess | CISA | Oct 12 17:02 | |
| techrights-news | Below the Surface: An Interview with #WhitneyWebb ⚓ https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/WhitneyWebb:d | Oct 12 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Below the Surface: An Interview with Whitney Webb | Oct 12 17:02 | |
| *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 12 17:06 | |
| techrights-news | #PostmarketOS v21.06 Service Pack 3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156637#comment-31348 | Oct 12 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | postmarketOS Release: v21.06 Service Pack 3 | Tux Machines | Oct 12 17:07 | |
| techrights-news | The latest #ECT #openwashing puff piece for "Linux" Foundation and its clients https://linuxinsider.com/story/enterprises-embrace-open-source-to-tackle-growing-data-management-challenges-87299.html | Oct 12 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxinsider.com | Enterprises Embrace Open Source To Tackle Data Management Challenges | Oct 12 17:09 | |
| techrights-news | Seems apt that Linux [sic] Foundation calls its #marketing "research" (same lie as #Microsoft ) and "SODA" because it basically junk, unhealthy https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/linux-foundation-research-and-soda-foundation-release-new-data-and-storage-trends-for-the-enterprise-301398025.html see http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ | Oct 12 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Linux Foundation Research and SODA Foundation Release New Data and Storage Trends for the Enterprise | Oct 12 17:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Today’s Linux Standing for the Opposite of What Linux Users Stand for | Techrights | Oct 12 17:11 | |
| techrights-news | #Kdenlive 21.08.2 is out • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156704 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 21.08.2 is out | Tux Machines | Oct 12 17:11 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@y4xqbx2nsfp9w.irc) has joined #techrights | Oct 12 17:15 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR2> OSS and alsa could be improved with a lot less effort than 2 million LOCs in Microsoft shithub | Oct 12 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the BSDs just kept extending their implementation of OSS. | Oct 12 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The point of all of this new stuff is mostly to create pointless differences with the other POSIX operating systems. | Oct 12 17:18 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▄▄▅▅▃▄▃▃▆▅▆▂▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▁▂▃▄▅▃▁▂▅▃▅▆▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▂▂▂▂▁█▁▂▁▄▅▃▁▁▃▂▃▄▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂█▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 38.06▕ swarm size (avg): 260.98 ⟲ | Oct 12 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | In a way that they either can't keep up with or will struggle to adapt to. | Oct 12 17:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wayland also | Oct 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | no more ssh -X | Oct 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wtf??? | Oct 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | such a basic feature | Oct 12 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of NIH here stuff in Linux, but ALSA was really the first big one I can think of. | Oct 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | since 20+ years ago | Oct 12 17:19 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/779300.png | Oct 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if wayland is so nice and clean, why can't they re-add such basic support? | Oct 12 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Jamie Zawinski was mocking it as "Advanced" Linux Sound Architecture. | Oct 12 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | When he couldn't get his sound card to work. | Oct 12 17:19 |
| MinceR | was this before his brain stopped working? | Oct 12 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | I've built Linux kernels that used OSSv4 before and didn't have ALSA. | Oct 12 17:20 |
| psydruid | so the defining feature of Linux is NIH? | Oct 12 17:20 |
| psydruid | and they extended that to more and more of the userland? | Oct 12 17:20 |
| psydruid | that's amazing | Oct 12 17:20 |
| MinceR | the defining feature of Linux is corporate takeover | Oct 12 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is becoming more like proprietary vendor UNIX was. | Oct 12 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Only it's IBM and it's all "open source" this time. | Oct 12 17:20 |
| MinceR | except it's becoming less and less capable of being the kernel of a Unix system | Oct 12 17:21 |
| psydruid | that's what I've been saying for quite some time | Oct 12 17:21 |
| psydruid | I also consider it proprietary UNIX 2.0 (3.0? 4.0?) | Oct 12 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Out of the old proprietary vendor UNIX systems, most were crap except IRIX and Solaris. | Oct 12 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Humorously, IE for UNIX was never targeted at IRIX. It only barely worked on the systems Microsoft did port it to. | Oct 12 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | IBM will die | Oct 12 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | It had to be the correct "patch level" or it would segfault and maybe panic the kernel too on the way out. | Oct 12 17:22 |
| psydruid | I had IRIX installed on my SGI Origin 2000 | Oct 12 17:22 |
| MinceR | Linux will probably die before IBM does | Oct 12 17:22 |
| MinceR | maybe so will the FSF | Oct 12 17:22 |
| MinceR | and the GNU Project | Oct 12 17:22 |
| MinceR | (except of course for GNOME) | Oct 12 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | FSF does not need IBM | Oct 12 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in recent years IBM only attacked FSF | Oct 12 17:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | IBm is Novell | Oct 12 17:24 |
| MinceR | the FSF has capitulated to IBM's horde | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they faced SCO together | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | let IBM rock back and forth a few more time | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they'll fall | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [17:24] <MinceR> the FSF has capitulated to IBM's horde | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in 2019 | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now they pushed back | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and put back the loyalists in the board | Oct 12 17:24 |
| psydruid | the thing is if they are content taking GNU and Linux and doing their own thing in a vacuum and leave others alone | Oct 12 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ousted the infestors | Oct 12 17:24 |
| psydruid | leaving* | Oct 12 17:25 |
| MinceR | also when they decided to host their communications where IBM's drones can control them | Oct 12 17:25 |
| psydruid | or if they will also try to infect the BSDs and new and upcoming operating systems | Oct 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | I do get why KDE NEON is riding on top of Ubuntu. | Oct 12 17:25 |
| MinceR | also continually by refusing to address the death of GNU and the encroachment of systemd | Oct 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu PPAs make it pretty easy to shuffle things around and back them out if you cause a crapalanche. | Oct 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Debian just isn't built to do that. | Oct 12 17:26 |
| schestowitz | RMS told me there's no CoC in GNU | Oct 12 17:26 |
| schestowitz | but there is one in their IRC network | Oct 12 17:26 |
| MinceR | which network | Oct 12 17:26 |
| schestowitz | LC | Oct 12 17:27 |
| schestowitz | where they are guests | Oct 12 17:27 |
| schestowitz | or "slaves" | Oct 12 17:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 12 17:27 |
| schestowitz | they can be blacklisted | Oct 12 17:27 |
| schestowitz | by white people | Oct 12 17:27 |
| MinceR | guests of their masters at IBM | Oct 12 17:27 |
| schestowitz | i.e. 100% of the admins | Oct 12 17:27 |
| activelow | really? LC is IBM? | Oct 12 17:28 |
| libertybox | tyranny | Oct 12 17:28 |
| schestowitz | oops | Oct 12 17:28 |
| schestowitz | wrong paste | Oct 12 17:28 |
| schestowitz | RMS said censorship is tyranny | Oct 12 17:28 |
| schestowitz | a day ago in his site | Oct 12 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why but when I booted Kubuntu 21.10 on this computer (new one), it caused the uEFI firmware to say "backing up self-healing BIOS" until I shut the PC down and cold started it. | Oct 12 17:29 |
| schestowitz | [17:28] <activelow> really? LC is IBM? | Oct 12 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: systemd is non-free, LC is IBM, ye know the drill. | Oct 12 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Probably something to do with Lenovo's shit firmware. | Oct 12 17:29 |
| schestowitz | no, MinceR sort of insinuated this | Oct 12 17:29 |
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| DaemonFC | There is just no telling what's in there or what could set it off. Even OpenSUSE writes an entire book on why uEFI can't be trusted to do the most basic tasks it claims to do. | Oct 12 17:30 |
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| DaemonFC | I agree with OpenSUSE. It's better to avoid using any of uEFI's "features" beyond what's needed to make the machine boot up. | Oct 12 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | If you do, you'll eventually brick someone's computer. | Oct 12 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | Since I have no idea how Ubuntu is building their kernels, I don't know what's to blame. I know Debian kernels don't have this issue. | Oct 12 17:33 |
| activelow | disagree, no UEFI at all, and with legacy BIOS, most parts BIOS implemented belonged into kernel as opensource | Oct 12 17:33 |
| activelow | that's why, alot of duplication existed, with device drivers implemented in BIOS (or nowadays uefi) and again in kernel | Oct 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | MARISOL "loaned" Mandy her Macbook. | Oct 12 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's missing keys and Chrome is stuck at version 46 and says it doesn't support OS X 10.6 anymore. | Oct 12 17:34 |
| techrights-news | Links 12/10/2021: Qubes 4.1 RC and Kdenlive 21.08.2 • 𝕋𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕤 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/kdenlive-21-08-2/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/12/kdenlive-21-08-2/ | Oct 12 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/10/2021: Qubes 4.1 RC and Kdenlive 21.08.2 | Techrights | Oct 12 17:34 | |
| DaemonFC | I checked About This Mac and it said Core 2 Duo and 2 GB of RAM. | Oct 12 17:34 |
| techrights-news | #Programming Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156705 | Oct 12 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 12 17:34 | |
| MinceR | activelow: illibera is controlled by staff that includes several people who signed the anti-RMS petition, some of whom have connections to the GNOME Foundation and other tentacles of IBM | Oct 12 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | So mid 2000s, I guess. | Oct 12 17:34 |
| MinceR | s/petition/letter/ | Oct 12 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: exactly, it's a terrible place | Oct 12 17:35 |
| MinceR | though the whole letter seems to come from ibm and microsoft people | Oct 12 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | and it is the result of THEIR actions, not Andrew Lee's, why most free software development is now done on mattermost | Oct 12 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | there would be no need for Andrew Lee to intervene if they weren't such horrible staffers | Oct 12 17:36 |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156707 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 12 17:36 | |
| MinceR | well, it was freenode's fucking up that made it possible to buy/sell the network in the first place | Oct 12 17:36 |
| activelow | conceptually, this is how i understand it: similar to systemd, between userspace and kernel space the system layer of systemd was fiddled into, to hook and hijack in between there | Oct 12 17:36 |
| techrights-news | Software: Apache, LibreOffice Writer, Arkime, and More • 𝖳𝗎𝗑 𝖬𝖺𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖾𝗌 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156706 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Oct 12 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Apache, LibreOffice Writer, Arkime, and More | Tux Machines | Oct 12 17:36 | |
| MinceR | and they fucked up again | Oct 12 17:36 |
| MinceR | they haven't learned from it | Oct 12 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: no, not really | Oct 12 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Nice revisionism. Also mattermost is decentralising, so it's a win? | Oct 12 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: ReactOS left freenode in 2018 | Oct 12 17:36 |
| activelow | same with BIOS and UEFI, which hook into in between kernel and hardware, although kernel is by design what interfaces with hardware, which it doesn't anymore directly | Oct 12 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | that was not Lee, that was all old staff | Oct 12 17:36 |
| activelow | it is sort of virtualized/supervised | Oct 12 17:37 |
| MinceR | the old staff was horrible | Oct 12 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: exactly | Oct 12 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | they may never be forgiven | Oct 12 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | they have also not changed their ways one bit | Oct 12 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | they still sit on channels | Oct 12 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | every channel on illibera with 50+ people has a staffer sitting there | Oct 12 17:37 |
| activelow | so instead of hardware-kernel-userspace we've got hardware-bios/uefi-kernel-systemd-userspace | Oct 12 17:38 |
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| CrystalMath | activelow: well, firmware-kernel-userspace is historic | Oct 12 17:38 |
| MinceR | their term is "obsolete" | Oct 12 17:38 |
| MinceR | or even "deprecated" | Oct 12 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://reactos.org/project-news/new-discussion-platform/ weird, no mention of issues with the staff. | Oct 12 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reactos.org | New Discussion Platform | ReactOS Project | Oct 12 17:39 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I put this in my blog. | Oct 12 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | if you run a sane OS you will not have a "system layer" | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | "<!-- wp:paragraph --> | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | <p><strong>It bears repeating..... DO NOT buy a HiDPI display. You will only live to regret it. They're a power-hogging monstrosity that demands a lot of the GPU, and they're not practical.</strong></p> | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | <!-- /wp:paragraph --> | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | <!-- wp:paragraph --> | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | <p>Leave them for Mac fanboys who are watching kiss anime at 240p on Safari.</p> | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | <!-- /wp:paragraph -->" | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Oops. | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Formatting. | Oct 12 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: right, but i know what happened regarding off-topic stuff | Oct 12 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | What they do mention is that they… don't like limitations of IRC? | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | "It bears repeating….. DO NOT buy a HiDPI display. You will only live to regret it. They’re a power-hogging monstrosity that demands a lot of the GPU, and they’re not practical. | Oct 12 17:39 |
| activelow | btw. those extra layers (systemd, bios/uefi) are controlled by... IBM Wintel corp. | Oct 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Leave them for Mac fanboys who are watching kiss anime at 240p on Safari." | Oct 12 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: oh that is true | Oct 12 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: there's plenty of reactos developers with right-ish opinions | Oct 12 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: and we had a staffer monitor us as well, tomaw | Oct 12 17:40 |
| CrystalMath | ReactOS always kept a backup channel on OFTC, called the "K-Line bunker", specifically because of concern that important develoers may get K-lined | Oct 12 17:40 |
| MinceR | sounds futile, considering that the same cult controls OFTC | Oct 12 17:41 |
| activelow | cult? | Oct 12 17:41 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Almost as scary as the deadliest pandemic of 2018. | Oct 12 17:41 |
| CrystalMath | the danger, of course, is that ReactOS is literally associated with Putin directly, and that many of its developers are not really into any left-wing stuff, not even stallman | Oct 12 17:41 |
| MinceR | activelow: neil mcgovern, matthew garrett and other SJWs aligned with IBM and microsoft | Oct 12 17:42 |
| XRevan86 | "associated with Putin directly" – directly? :D | Oct 12 17:42 |
| CrystalMath | yeah, we presented it to Putin, there are pictures of it | Oct 12 17:43 |
| CrystalMath | https://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-presented-president-putin/ | Oct 12 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reactos.org | ReactOS Presented to President Putin | ReactOS Project | Oct 12 17:43 | |
| XRevan86 | That's not exactly "associated", but indeed closer than I expected. | Oct 12 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, yes, Seliger, I remember that happening. | Oct 12 17:44 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: for years we were trying to get the status of Russia's replacement for western technology | Oct 12 17:44 |
| CrystalMath | but we didn't get it | Oct 12 17:45 |
| CrystalMath | instead, a linux distro won | Oct 12 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: importozamescheniye is a pretty weird pickle. | Oct 12 17:45 |
| MinceR | russia doesn't mind being dependent on a kernel controlled by microsoft? | Oct 12 17:46 |
| activelow | washington/redmond | Oct 12 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: ReactOS being an independent project meant that this was unlikely from the start. | Oct 12 17:47 |
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| the_janitor | does anyone here have to work extra hard to do web searches that don't include wikipedia information? | Oct 12 17:52 |
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| DaemonFC | OMG MSFT! Joey at it again. | Oct 12 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/GNOME-41-features-gnome-software-3.jpg | Oct 12 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, GNOME's Web browser is unsafe according to GNOME, because it has network access and can write to the Downloads folder. | Oct 12 18:13 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635451 | Oct 12 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1635451 - (semi-headless) Limit number of client connections to X for fission to avoid xclient exhaustion (fission) | Oct 12 18:32 | |
| DaemonFC | "In fission, we may have a large number of content processes. In linux, each currently opens 2 xclient connections. Xorg code defaults to a max number of clients from all programs of 256, though it can be manually increased to either 512 or 2048. Running fission with ~100 content processes, I've run out of xclient connections multiple times." | Oct 12 18:33 |
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| XRevan86 | https://r.nf/r/HobbyDrama/comments/q6k9md | Oct 12 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-r.nf | [IRC/Freenode] "This is not a hostile takeover", says Andrew, as he takes over hostile-ly - r/HobbyDrama | Oct 12 19:11 | |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/08/hours-after-russian-journalist-wins-nobel-peace-prize-russia-designates-nine-more-journalists-plus-bellingcat-as-foreign-agents | Oct 12 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 12 19:11 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784697.jpg | Oct 12 19:21 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR2, I'm mentioning Calligra Office. | Oct 12 19:34 |
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| DaemonFC | GNOME has an official "suite", but it's really just a bundle of small applications that are usable on their own. | Oct 12 19:35 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's an old one. | Oct 12 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's so quiet over here. Probably because techrights-news is off-line. | Oct 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh | Oct 12 21:53 |
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| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/10/12/it-s-just-madness | Oct 12 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 12 21:53 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/10/12/let-s-not-talk-about-sex-baby | Oct 12 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 12 21:53 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'm also 'at work' | Oct 12 21:54 |
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| XRevan86 | I sent a PRIVMSG to scientes two days ago, he didn't reply. | Oct 12 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Tue 18:34:50 │ 〖DaemonFC〗 │ schestowitz-TR2, I'm mentioning Calligra Office. | Oct 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Tue 18:35:14 │ 〖DaemonFC〗 │ GNOME has an official "suite", but it's really just a bundle of small applications that are usable on their own. | Oct 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I seem to still have some connection issues | Oct 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | missed that one | Oct 12 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cnet.com/news/details-of-sgis-windows-nt-workstations-emerging/ | Oct 12 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Details of SGI's Windows NT workstations emerging - CNET | Oct 12 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | "They've put a lot of money in these products and [SGI] is expecting them to do well for the company," said Keren Seymour, senior workstation analyst with International Data Corporation. | Oct 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.com/2006/05/09/sgi_chapter11_analysis/ | Oct 12 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft man's shadow over bankrupt SGI • The Register | Oct 12 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Got $18m to spare? That's the market capitalization of one of Silicon Valley's most glamorous companies this morning, after Silicon Graphics Inc. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. | Oct 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | The size of SGI's debt - at $664m it's twice the value of its assets - is enough to deter all but the most determined bargain hunter. Apart from a ragbag of trademarks - such as OpenGL - what growth has SGI left to offer? | Oct 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | --- | Oct 12 22:26 |
| immibis | SGI exists? | Oct 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft "partnerships". | Oct 12 22:26 |
| immibis | oh. 2006 | Oct 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | No. | Oct 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Between 2002 and 2006, they went from thriving business, to signing a Microsoft deal, to collapsing and filing bankruptcy and firing everyone. | Oct 12 22:27 |
| immibis | welcome to capitalism, enjoy your stay. capitalism stresses out capitalists too. one misstep away from not necessarily homelessness, but losing their status | Oct 12 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Despite not existing anymore, there are still people backporting current (or at least newer) open source software to IRIX. | Oct 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | *Despite SGI not existing anymore | Oct 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | The OS is still capable of running quite a bit of software. | Oct 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/12/microsoft_patch_tuesday/?td=keepreading-btm | Oct 12 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft Patch Tuesday bug harvest festival comes to town • The Register | Oct 12 22:29 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows is a mess to try to patch. On top of Microsoft's broken patches and endless patch re-issues, you have dozens if not hundreds of programs that Windows Update doesn't even cover because you got them elsewhere. | Oct 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | Vivaldi and Firefox have their own system services to watch for updates and install them without setting off security alerts. | Oct 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | In Debian, Vivaldi just sets up an Apt repo and updates like everything else with an Apt repo. | Oct 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of people in Vivaldi that actually seem to use GNU/Linux distros as their daily driver, including Ruarí Ødegaard (former Opera employee), who says he likes Slackware. | Oct 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | So they actually bother to do a real port and keep it in sync with all the same features as Mac and Windows. | Oct 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Which is something not even Mozilla bothers to. | Oct 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the attitudes at Vivaldi and Mozilla are striking. | Oct 12 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla says they're open source, and treat GNU/Linux ("Linux") as the unloved port that doesn't get supported properly. | Oct 12 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | And Vivaldi (mostly open source, but proprietary bits) treats "Linux" as priority 1 because THEY use it on GNU/Linux themselves instead of releasing Bitch to Boss extensions, giving Comcast privacy awards, stuffing it like a thanksgiving turkey with adware, and redirecting their users to Cloudflare. | Oct 12 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | They're in there digging around sorting out bugs. | Oct 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | In the software. | Oct 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Not a political party. | Oct 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Like I said before, I can't fault Manjaro too much. Firefox has become a real shit sandwich. | Oct 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, it was never the fastest or most efficient program, but it's turned into what it is today out of pure greed and neglect. | Oct 12 22:38 |
| psydruid | As of 2010, while mainframe technology represented less than 3% of IBM's revenues, it "continue[d] to play an outsized role in Big Blue's results".' | Oct 12 22:39 |
| psydruid | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Mainframes | Oct 12 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Usage share of operating systems - Wikipedia | Oct 12 22:40 | |
| psydruid | So it's pretty much dead and so is IBM | Oct 12 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, MinceR | Oct 12 22:41 |
| psydruid | I really think Firefox should just die, so people can fork its engine and improve it to build better browsers | Oct 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | "I don't think you're missing much if you don't get a booster. I got a third Pfizer shot and spent the next month kind of wishing I hadn't. Just all kinds of bizarre things, and it eventually went away, but I wouldn't have taken it if I knew what a bad month it would be. | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | "It's safe, it's effective, and it's free!" - Joe Biden | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Also Trump, actually, if you listen to him. | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | And I'm starting to wonder how they could be telling us the truth if the situation now is twice as bad as it was this time last year when there was no vaccine, and this despite the fact that the people running Florida are making things up to make it look like there's no COVID there, like something out of North Korea or China's state media. | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | This is starting to look an awful lot like an Olive Garden never ending pasta bowl of bullshit. | Oct 12 22:42 |
| psydruid | If there is anything worth salvaging of the codebase | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | You know, they just keep bringing you more and more. Here's some more breadsticks. Have another COVID shot. Did we tell you about the VERY INFECTIOUS DELTA VARIANT for the 14th time today? By the way, because America is a land of freedom and choices, you'll lose your job if you don't take this weird vaccine Trump told the lab boys to come up with over the course of a few days. | Oct 12 22:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Make sure to get three doses now, Bill Gates gets patent royalties. | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think my life has honestly become a full time damage control. Right? Limiting the damage that the government does while telling me it's helping. We're wearing masks, most of us have gotten the vaccine. If it's a great vaccine, why hasn't it slowed the virus down at all? Why is it twice as bad as last year? | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to take any more of these shots and they can just do what they will about that. I feel that the shots themselves are becoming a bigger risk to my health than that damned thing is. And I have to wonder if the vaccines are even working at this point." | Oct 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote this on Facebook when WGN said they're studying "boosters" for J&J and Moderna. | Oct 12 22:42 |
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| DaemonFC | <psydruid> I really think Firefox should just die, so people can fork its engine and improve it to build better browsers | Oct 12 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | It already is effectively dead. | Oct 12 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | The ShitHub churn shows that about two-thirds of their activity on Firefox is adding spam and spyware, and about 1/3rd is actual development work going on somewhere in the application. | Oct 12 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59 also uses ShutHub to play around with his broken hibernation and kernel handcuffs. | Oct 12 22:45 |
| psydruid | I only use Shithub when I really have to, which is almost never | Oct 12 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's just ridiculous what this guy does. It's fake security, and he hangs out with a bunch of MicroShit people and then takes digs at things I've never even said instead of quoting me on the really good insults. | Oct 12 22:46 |
| psydruid | He's been faking his career and his life | Oct 12 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | And of course he's gay (not that there's anything wrong with that before he tries to take that out of context). | Oct 12 22:47 |
| psydruid | No substance to add whatsoever | Oct 12 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Usually saying "my partner" means you're gay and you're embarrassed about it. | Oct 12 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Also, afraid of actually getting married or at least a civil union. | Oct 12 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Lack of morals. Doesn't want committment. | Oct 12 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Gets in the way of looking through his meat market apps at the open source conference. | Oct 12 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | The way you get over being embarrassed about being gay is by not being embarrassed about it. | Oct 12 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | You know, "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!". You take that attitude with people who don't like you, you'll develop better self-esteem. | Oct 12 22:50 |
| psydruid | https://www.itpro.co.uk/virtualisation/34516/vmware-vsphere-vs-proxmox-which-is-best-for-your-business | Oct 12 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | VMware vSphere vs Proxmox: Which is best for your business? | IT PRO | Oct 12 23:10 | |
| psydruid | why do companies still deploy VMware Vsphere for mission-critical servers? | Oct 12 23:11 |
| MinceR | because they're managed by suits who know nothing about IT | Oct 12 23:11 |
| MinceR | the only things they know are control freakery, doing harm, greed and pushing responsibility on other people | Oct 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | exactly | Oct 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they buy these to pass blame | Oct 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that's why they also pay Red Hat/IBM | Oct 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a throat to choke | Oct 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at what cost? | Oct 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's the "SLA" mindset | Oct 12 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | paying tons of money to protect yourself from accusations | Oct 12 23:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | seems like a "management skill" these days | Oct 12 23:13 |
| psydruid | "our company was uncompetitive, but at least we had a throat to choke while we went under!" | Oct 12 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and they put that in their CV | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we went into "successful bankruptcy" | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or bankruptcies | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | plural | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they get another job | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | destroy another company | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | another "successful bankruptcy" | Oct 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as a friend recently told me | Oct 12 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | only partly as a joke | Oct 12 23:16 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21100235 | Oct 12 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5900919) | Oct 12 23:18 | |
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